Transcript
Discussion (0)
Now it's started. We'll see if it stops any second now, we'll know.
But BKN episode 144, still recording. I think we're good.
I think we're good. All right. Yeah.
So we were just talking about The Last Kingdom.
I want to talk about politics, which everyone will love.
Sorry about the salt.
Trump, weight loss, and another thing I forgot.
So this will be good.
Right, we're going to talk about it because that's honestly,
I want to talk about
that just we'll start with it then dude so last kid kyle was right about everything he said one
criminally underrated as taylor mentioned in the sky very very good show um another thing
shit happens every show every show every show is a season of Game of Thrones.
Kyle mentioned this
on PKA, but it still blew my mind.
This is the first episode, so I'm not
spoiling very much, but a kid is
taken from his home and he grows into
a man. One show!
One show that all happens.
Your hero's Genesis story
is episode one. You get his
entire childhood to manhood and everything that is going to motivate him in the future and make him the man he is and is going to push him forward.
That's episode one.
And after episode one, you're like, all right, the fight is on.
And it's great.
How far are you into it so far?
We're all done.
Yeah, I'm out of King.
Okay, I'm done too.
Yeah, embarrassingly. Did you also start Thursday? Yes. Oh, we're all done. Yeah, I'm out of King. You're done? Okay, I'm done too. Yeah, embarrassingly.
Did you also start Thursday?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
How did we finish two seasons?
And they're hour long.
And they're like a real hour long.
Not the 42-minute hour long, I think.
And, man, I watched it all.
It was addicting.
Sometimes too much happens.
And I've never said that about a show ever.
I actually am not 100% sure how many
wives he's had in two years.
Oh my god. So many?
I'm having a lot of trouble keeping track
of it because you're already devoting
so much of your memory to
just like Game of Thrones, keeping track of which bearded
white guy is which bearded white guy.
These women just all blend together.
They shouldn't as much, but it's like, god damn,
you couldn't have picked some more disparate hairstyles?
There's only one woman in any of these
camps at any given time. Change up the hair.
But to Woody's point of everything
going too fast, you're totally
right in that. And I didn't fully believe
Kyle when he said how quickly this show was going to go,
but there were times where
it's so rare. In Game of Thrones, I'll sit
there and be like, how much more of this feast is there going to be?
Are we going to get no Tyrion? Is there going to be are we going to get no tyrian is there going to be no tyrian oh i guess no
tyrian again with this like there would be a feast with like the two viking brothers or whatever the
hell it is and seven seconds then it would just be like all right well on the morrow we will speak
and then it's like oh that was it oh no more of feast? I don't get to see anything else that happened?
No more little banter between the folks?
It was almost too quick at times where I'd be like,
in one scene they'd be like,
well, we must send word to all corners of the empire
to rise up and to get them
and to forge new swords and shields.
And next scene, we're all here.
We're all ready to go.
It totally works like that.
They'll be like, even the prepping for battle, right?
Like just kind of like marching to a place and organizing and lining your men up.
That's like two or three shows in Game of Thrones.
That, I swear to God, is two or three minutes in this show.
It takes so long in Game of Thrones that when the
army does arrive, to their credit,
you're surprised. You're like, oh yeah, forgot!
There's been an army marching for four
years, and it just got...
Who leads that army again? But in this case,
you're surprised. You're equally
surprised, but it's because it's so soon.
Like that scene
where Uhtred fights abba in the camp
and then all of a sudden there's an army there you know whoa that's right there's an army on the way
there's another scene where i forget his name but the the biggest king edmund or edward or something
like that he's waiting for the other army to show up and he's standing on top of a hill looking
towards the woods and i'm thinking to myself that's not how you wait for an army.
This could take a couple of seasons.
But oh no, hey, there they are.
He's like, oh no, I see.
He's like, I see their shadows.
Yep, see, told you.
And I was like, oh my God, really?
He had to wait for such a short period of time.
He didn't even need popcorn and a beverage.
Like a movie you need more refreshment to wait for such a short period of time he didn't even need popcorn and a beverage like a movie you
need more refreshment to wait on he was there for 15 20 minutes and the army showed up three armies
simultaneously that's his timing they take all the non-action and they would have surprised him
here's how i edit videos lately and i've been getting compliments so i go through you have
like two hours of footage and i shrink it down to like 20 minutes.
And then after I'm done, I do it again.
I'm like, you know what?
That was boring shit right there.
Cut, cut, cut, cut.
And the more I cut, the better it gets.
Whoever is editing this series is doing that six or seven times because there's nothing but story progression. I just imagine them going to Netflix
telling them the whole story
of Uhtred, of Bebbanburg
and how it begins and how it ends and they're like
oh wow, that's one hell of an epic. What is this?
Like eight, nine episodes?
Or eight, nine seasons? No, no, about three
episodes. We can wrap it all up. No, no, no!
You've got to expand! Three episodes?
Give me three seasons at least
because it really does oh for sure they
definitely are um i i think that uh i think it was highly rated right yeah it was highly rated
i think it's one of their higher budget shows um i like swords and shields you mentioned that you
saw a guy's blue jeans like under his chain mail oh did you oh was it a close-up because i think i
might have caught something it was uh it was you you know, when they have, like, the sitting down at the fireplace camera shot,
and you just see, like, the random men in the back from, like, nipples down with their cloaks.
I was just, like, we were just on Skype, like, chatting about, like, man, this is so cool and such high budget.
And then I just sent a message, like, I just saw a guy wearing jeans at the King's Council.
And I was like, is that cheap?
They didn't have denim in the year 780.
Yeah.
It's funny.
I have connected sleeves.
I like how the clothing works.
I pay really a lot of attention.
Yeah, I pay a lot of attention to their clothing because if it looks good, I can really immerse myself.
Like I liked his sword work.
I thought that it didn't look like the nicest sword
ever. It looked like, yeah, that
old guy over there just hammered this out for him.
It's a tool with a sparkly
on the end. What is that?
He seems to have...
It's the Jurassic Park mosquito
as far as I can tell.
It is. It's a chunk of amber with some mosquitoes
preserved in it.
Dino DNA!
That's not real thing.
That's not like make-believe just for Jurassic Park.
That happens.
There's not dino DNA in there.
No, there's no dino DNA.
Yeah, I was like, does Kyle think this happens?
No, no, no.
It happens.
Things do get preserved in amber, and amber's a real thing.
And he's got a chunk of amber in the hilt of his sword.
I was in Atlanta for this bike ride acrossorgia it was a thing i did with my
dad and uh the jurassic park was like in the theaters i don't know if it was one or two
and the atlanta like so i'm from jersey at this point and i'm surrounded by people especially
you know 20 30 years ago who think that everyone from the south has a room temperature iq
so this is like my first like southern experience i'm down there and someone's like hey you know
do dinosaurs really eat people and the dj on the radio is like well dinosaurs do what dinosaurs do
they eat people that's what dinosaurs do dinosaurs do what dinosaurs do. Dinosaurs do what dinosaurs do. He just kept saying that, and I'm like, oh my
God! I thought he just
represented all Southerners. That's how I took it.
Anyway. Were you listening to the
John Boyd Billy morning show?
I don't know. Something bad.
That's a good morning show, actually.
I like something about it
that's different. The show
Last Kingdom, that's different from Game of Thrones
and that same feeling. Obviously, it's not fantasy in show Last Kingdom, that's different from Game of Thrones and that same feeling.
Obviously, it's not fantasy in the same way,
but I almost feel like in a lot of those medieval shows,
you're seeing the late game of medieval world.
You're seeing these enormous stone castles
and these big draw bridges
and these giant architectural things
and monasteries and whatnot.
This feels like, to relate it to like age of
mythology they're in the first 10 minutes of age of mythology in uh the first 20 minutes of early
dark in the the last kingdom whereas the late game you're not there yet so even the big halls
and the oh my god like the king's coming like even that is so underwhelming compared to what
you're used to seeing a medieval king being because you're like this is the king's coming like even that is so underwhelming compared to what you're used to seeing a medieval
king being because you're like this is the king's hall this is it it's just like a normal room
where's his arm his arm is it a clever way to keep the budget down maybe no i think it's factually
accurate because all right you're talking about the beginning of the dark ages at the time well
this is the beginning of the dark ages is the the roman empire has fallen um that that's what that
that wall is they talk about at one point. Hadrian's.
Yeah.
And I think it's like the year 500 or 600 or something like that.
I didn't catch it.
No, it's like 800-something.
Yeah, I think it's 800-something anyway.
Yeah, so it's like early Dark Ages.
Yeah, they don't have those big impressive castles and anything.
They don't know if England's going to be a thing.
It's not a thing yet.
It's an idea, the idea of a united England and what that could even mean because right now it's very regional and like you said
there's these really petty kings and petty lords and you know the richest man in the whole fucking
country's got like one big chest of silver and that's it that's it yeah you can wrap your arms
around that's the richest guy and it surprised me is how much they're like how much
silver you worth and like that kind of shit when it was like nobody even throws gold out there as
a possibility like the the two times where like someone was like what do you demand for this
ransom he's like uh gold and a barrel of gold and 10 chests of silver and like the very prospect of
it is enough to make everybody like oh gold he says oh my god it's like how rich do you think we are where it's like no they really
didn't he's like he's like a solid gold altar he's like only gilded my lord but you know how
the tongues wag you know like gold yeah like you said it's it's they haven't gotten to gold levels
yet and like i think the reason there were so many small kings is just reflecting that, like, this
was like still like a warlord chieftain
time. More than, they just called themselves
kings, you know? Like, they hadn't
aggregated yet. Like, that king over there
and that king over there and that king over there,
those are all, in the future,
what would be little, like, lords underneath
the umbrella king, you know?
When I was talking about, like, show budget,
I am in my head imagining
this like, alright, get this.
It takes place in 1200 AD.
No, no, no, no. This isn't HBO. This is Netflix.
Back it down. We can go
from castles to cottages if we make this
800 AD.
Maybe that went down.
I don't know.
There are some big castles.
Uhtred's got a big castle,
right? The one he's supposed got a big castle, right?
Like the one he's supposed to have in Bebbanburg.
Like whenever they show that thing from a distance,
it looks like a Game of Thrones castle.
Like it's super wide.
It doesn't have like the really tall towers and stuff,
but it's got two or three,
and it's got the big high brick walls and stuff.
She's a fixer-upper.
The shitty cups really, really drew my eye because I'm so used to Game of Thrones and
Tyrion and all the other medieval shows of all
the... Anyone who's anyone in any medieval
show, you would think drinks out of a silver chalice
or something and just loving it.
These people, even like
the high up...
Trailer Park Boys. They got like
a two liter soda.
It's just like a clay cup
or something with no designs on it
And then like the king will have his normal ass looking like
Target cup that you would buy there in a set of ten and it was it's almost just like
Yeah, like those like cheap cups you get at Walmart or Target.
I'm picturing plastic with the...
So yeah, I see with the cups that I noticed were they look like they were made out of some big horn.
In my head, it's rhinoceros, although I'm sure that's not actually it.
And they just kind of cut the top off and put a bottom on it, and it's like a horn cup.
So like horns are mostly hollow anyway.
I didn't know that.
It's just these folds of skin.
And so, yeah, you just turn it upside down, and you can fill it with –
I liked the thing Uhtred's got.
It's like a canteen, but it's leather.
And it looked really well made.
And I was like, ah.
I kept thinking, what does the water taste like?
What does the water taste like out of a leather canteen?
It probably tastes awful.
And I liked when it would show them pouring water.
That it was not the Lady Galadriel's pouring water into the seeing pool in Lord of the Rings.
It was clearly dirty, yellowish, brownish, the kind of water these people would have been drinking with every sip being like, oh, fingers crossed, people.
At one point, they're like, I can't clean in this river.
And he's like, oh, we're miles from the city.
The river's clean again.
No, it is not if you only knew man imagine
teleporting back in time there and having
to like do their silly stuff where
you all wash your hands after each other ritualistically
knowing
about germs
that'd be awful but yeah that show
was great if you haven't watched that yet check it out
I just binged the entire thing
it's the fastest I read something online
that they sped stuff
up so much
that the initial year
is supposed to be like 793
or 893. I don't know.
But by the time they're in season two
and I won't say the big event,
one of the battles is meant to be
like the year 912
or something. So they're going over spans of
years and years and years and years
and years hitting the interesting stuff instead of waiting for people to march yeah a thing will
happen and they'll just be like now three years later and you're like oh yeah well i'm thank you
for the fast forward over like the bullshit happy times when utrid is just fucking bitches and like
beating up anyone he wants to or whatever he does in his spare time.
And they go right to the troublesome times.
I feel bad for Uhtred a lot of the time.
He really never seems to get his due.
Nobody ever seems to really fully appreciate him.
Although he does some shitty stuff too.
You know what?
I had a real life friend,
and I was teaching him about this concept of managing up.
So we're going to go back to my Cisco years.
I would watch managers.
And in my opinion, like some of the best managers weren't the ones getting promoted.
So I talked to my boss about it.
You know, just like friends, you know?
Like how come XYZ doesn't, you know, do better?
You know, that guy always seems to be like on top of his game.
And he's like, oh, that guy doesn't manage up.
Like that guy never talks to be on top of his game. And he's like, oh, that guy doesn't manage up.
That guy never talks to his managers and sells himself.
He never, he manages down great.
He's practically a member of his project teams.
But his boss doesn't understand
the importance of what he's doing.
His boss doesn't understand how critical his role was.
His boss doesn't get it because he's not managing up.
If you don't manage down, then you're a pretender.
You're not actually doing your job. If you don't
manage up, then you're hurting yourself.
It is somewhat
part of your responsibility to let the
people above you know why you're so flippin' awesome.
And he didn't do that. Well, Uhtred
doesn't manage up. Uhtred will
save the kingdom and then
be like, and they're like, dude, you gotta go.
He's gonna, you know, someone else is gonna take credit for this accomplishment and he's like yeah one second all the boys know
what i did that's exactly what happens in a work environment you know in a work environment all
your teammates know exactly why you're so great if assuming you are but your boss doesn't unless
you tell him he never barges into alfred's chamber room with like a fucking powerpoint
or anything.
First of all, you said to bring men from here to here.
You informed me there would be a thousand.
There were 600.
I encourage you to be more accurate next time.
It makes battles very difficult.
I retrieved the men.
From there, I moved forward, north as you ordered.
You got on to me about this.
You don't know what you're talking about.
You weren't there.
Like, he needs that.
But what he does every time is Alfred, the king who i actually do like as a character will be like you didn't have my permission to do this or that as you were saving my ass and he's like oh
guess not and it's like well no don't say that i used the tools that were available to me like
just like market yourself a little bit. Yeah.
I think a little of that is because he's still a Viking,
and in his culture, he's like, yeah, I want to battle.
There's going to be songs sung now.
They can't help but hear about what I did,
because the music of it's going to be so loud.
Everybody's going to be talking about what I did.
But here, you saw that young Oda was like,
nobody says shit but me.
Shut up. He's like, there says shit but me. Shut up.
He's like, there's going to be one voice that tells this story.
It's young Oda's.
I was so glad when we got around to punishing young Oda.
Yes, me too.
He was a real cunt of a character.
It's an excellent show.
I liked when they got around to talking about King Alfred, who was, like, what I liked about King Alfred, the guy who always wears that red smock, which I liked in and of itself because it was like, that's like the new king look.
Like, they hadn't even gotten to, like, crazy shit all the time.
Like, they were just figuring this king shit out.
But he was the only person in the entire first season who took more than a second to make any decisions at all.
Because up until then, it was bothering me in the show where utrid or someone would like to be talking to his viking buddies and they'd be like utrid we have we have 11 men and they have
but 60 you know uh can we take them and utrid will be like well we wouldn't be vikings if we didn't
and they're in there whatever and fucking finally as they're like having one of those plans in the
throne room king alfred just steps in and is like, no, foolish.
You are fools.
That would be a foolish thing to do.
And it's like, oh, Alfred, yes, somebody's thinking a little bit.
I know.
Dude.
I liked it when it came out in the end.
This isn't a spoiler, but when after that one guy had been given his justice and the guy who gave him that justice was drinking a lot.
And they were trying to ask him questions about you know the upcoming
battle and he's like oh I can't even get drunk on this wine or this this grog or
whatever ale this ale King Alfred has it so it's made weak so men get to work the
next morning and then I could all like the guys like like, oh, ho, ho. And one dude's like, really?
Really?
And he's like, yes.
Yeah.
Weak ale.
And he's like, they're just a gackt that they have just been guzzling down weak ale for free under the auspice of free ale.
But really, it's just like that beer they give you in Utah to make sure you don't fuck it.
But great show.
You guys got to check it out. It is fantastic. I like it a lot.
Let's do politics for a little
bit.
The latest thing as we record
this is Trump just
released
previously
classified intel to
Russian
ambassadors who apparently are also spies.
He told them
what country he got the intel out of
a while back that ISIS
was going to use laptops
to smuggle
explosives onto aircraft.
I think what he told them was
what country he got that
intel out of, which would let
Russia know which country
we have an operative in but of course we
have operatives in all the countries i i don't like i'm not defending what he did i think that's
what he did laptops about blowing up laptops apparently wants to smuggle like explosive
laptops on and i didn't think that was like a super secret because even i figured that out
when they said hey you know they're thinking about banning laptops traveling in from overseas. And I'm like,
you mean in the cabin too? That's how I
watch my movies. And they're like, yeah,
even in the cabin, you gotta put it, you know,
somewhere else. And I'm like, oh,
well, now Trump has told the Russians, hey,
ISIS is talking about making laptop bombs,
which I had
figured out on my own.
That's not the important part. The secret
was where we got it. And own you know that's not the important part that like the secret was where we
got it that and and you know like now i hadn't heard he gave up the source i heard them strictly
deny it something like i wish i could remember the phrase but he said it nine times in the same
interview that uh that he didn't give up anything and that it was holy it was it was a different
person it was like a military leader speaking on behalf of Trump
or an ex-military intelligence guy or something.
I'd love to hear his exact verbiage, you know,
because they will come right to the edge of telling a lie
without telling one legally speaking.
But my guess is he told him, like,
in what country we got...
He's like, yeah, we got a guy in Saudi Arabia.
He knew.
He heard it through the grapevine. I think he gave that. I don't think he was like yeah we got a guy in saudi arabia he knew he heard it through the
grapevine like i think he gave that i don't think he was like we got this name dave here's his here's
his here's his picture he's yeah yeah it's our guy dave is a motherfucking pimp let me tell you
what dave did he is in the saudi family right now they think he's a prince they they've denied that
he gave up the source at all but like like you said, sometimes the language is very particular, right?
Yeah.
But I don't know how they get – I guess most of the media, everyone but Fox, is very, very upset over this.
And they start bringing back – I love that there's a Trump tweet for everything.
Trump tweets have – there's one out there for every scenario. And here he is tweeting
and I remember him doing this, that Hillary
Clinton should not be getting a White House
briefing. So once the two candidates are
picked, once it gets down to two, they
start giving them briefings, intelligence
briefings, so that they can walk into
the presidency and hit the ground running.
Well, he's tweeting out that
Hillary shouldn't be getting these things because she
can't be trusted with classified information. And it's just like, oh, he's tweeting out that Hillary shouldn't be getting these things because she can't be trusted with classified information.
And it's just like, oh, that's so perfect.
And he also tweeted that, oh, I can't remember.
I think it might have been Snowden.
I think Edward Snowden should be executed for giving up state secrets.
Oh, Edward Snowden is a far cry.
Very different situations, but it still seems like a...
Hypocrisy. Totally.
Yeah, but hypocrisy doesn't hurt Trump.
Trump can lie and do his...
What is hypocrisy?
Hypocritical things all the time,
but that doesn't stick to him.
That's, you know...
There's a different set of rules.
I don't think so.
I don't like that he did this, because
what it says to me, I don't care about this
individual
thing that he's done.
It seems on the surface to be
not a big deal at all.
Like you said,
yeah, we kind of knew that. It sounds like the only
thing that was released was maybe where we
got the info, and in kind of a vague, arbitrary kind
of way. Like, yeah, we got people out there in the
Middle East, they hear things. Like, maybe
he said something like that. He said something he shouldn't have said,
though, because they are making a stink about it.
But, god, it's a stink every fucking
week, and what I'm worried about is if he
didn't know the exact
that military guy you talked about a minute
ago who, like, gave the statement. Is it Big Master?
Is that his name? Like I said, I hadn't heard I said, it goes to the edge of telling a lie while legally still being sound.
And Trump isn't capable of that.
Certainly not in public.
And I can't imagine that he's capable of it in private with those Russian ambassadors where I'm sure he's trying to hobnob and press the flesh.
And, you know, politic and impress them with who he is
and what he is and his power and all that stuff.
I'm so confused.
Is it really, to Woody's point
about the whole, like, if Trump had told you
hey, ISIS is trying
to blow up laptops.
I feel like if I got an email from Trump
that said, like, I just wanted to let you know,
be careful of laptop bobs, ISIS is
doing this, I would have to send back, like, yeah, no shit, I just wanted to let you know, be careful of laptop bobs. ISIS is doing this. I would have to send back
like, yeah, no shit. I see the TSA
signs too.
I see, like, what in God?
It has to have been something more than that.
Well, and Kyle says
that he gave up
something related to the source of it.
I heard that that's absolutely
not the case from the White House.
But they lie so much that frustrated.
Dude, Spicer, Kellyanne Conway, et cetera.
There is a team of people who are just flat out liars, you know, and like I don't want to go to the stupid thing, but it's in my head.
The crowd size thing, like on day one, Spicer comes out and shows that he is absolutely willing
to tell lies that we all see through, right? That's what, this is what I'll be doing. I lie.
And so I heard from the White House that, you know, they didn't give up sources and here's
my reaction to it. Like, oh yeah, I don't believe you at all. You just, you tell lies.
That's, I think it's a big, I think it's more like what I said. Like I said, I don't think he
was like, this is John. He's a
CIA operative and he did this. Or I
don't think he was like, this is Habib.
You know, the bad guys think he's a good guy
but really he's with us because we got his family over here
and we pay him well and we're taking care of
30 camels. Can you believe it?
Like, I don't think that happened.
We got a guy in Abu Dhabi who sold us this.
Yeah, yeah.
And apparently that's a big problem it'll it'll shut down that source and then it'll tell them
where our relationships are and and they're able to like oh well if they have a guy in abu dhabi
and this guy then they probably they can infer other relationships i was hearing that on the
news that that was some big deal i don't know this to me seems like on the news right
now they're acting like this is the worst thing that he's done so far in my head though i'm not
sure it makes top 10 uh-uh it's it's minor league i think that they're making a mountain out of a
no hill uh there's really nothing here it's not like i guarantee it's russia like i think that
they had first of all they're always hacking into our fucking intelligence agencies. Anyway, they all are
Probably already
And if we know something they know and if they know something we know it I doubt there are very many secrets
Especially of this nature when it comes to like who we've got where and where we spy we spy everywhere
We're spying on Spain. Why are we spying on Spain?
Just in fucking one case like like in case they know something
we need to know we spy on everyone do you ever wonder how much like we actually know about like
like of chinese and russian secrets and stuff like that or they know of ours like yeah it almost
makes sense to think that all of the superpower countries hit like a threshold of being able to
discover shit that they can just figure out what everybody else knows.
Right.
I mean,
I don't understand like the actual technology of it,
but doesn't it,
maybe you can explain better.
Any secrets that are networked.
It seems like everybody would know everything.
It bothers me that here's the thing.
So I got into a kick about two,
three months ago about military capability.
And this,
I'm totally not an expert,
but I just started reading about it
and runways and planes and whatnot.
And apparently China's new plane is actually pretty good
because they stole all our intelligence.
And they just copied American planes.
And they're never more than a couple years behind
because they just steal our R&D.
And it's like, oh oh my god that's so
like i i guess all's fair in love and war but it's so unfair you know it's so unfair that we put
billy tens of billions into being like we like to imagine the greatest plane in history and then
china's like oh we have discovered the greatest plane in history. To me, it's a lot. I like to imagine, though, that we plant a little Achilles heel in those.
And when the World War III goes down, we just turn all of their shit off.
That happened at Cisco.
That would be pretty nice.
It is made to specification, including a rocket water balloon launcher.
I only make what I am told, sir. we have a spaceship with the screen door no at cisco we
made routers and uh and like they copied our circuit board no i didn't build a circuit board
that wasn't my job but like exactly copied it there were mistakes and errors and like unused
circuits that just found their way into the final design. And they were there too.
They didn't even bother to reverse engineer it.
And we actually caught them in one in court because they copied our manuals.
They would hand out manuals with their stuff that was our manual.
Same type of shit probably too.
Oh, that's lazy.
There are a lot of historical examples of that happening.
I want to say that the Soviets stole the B-52 designs or something.
And in the design, there was this little flaw where like, oh, no, no.
What it was was they captured a plane.
One of our planes crashed, and they captured it, and they copied it.
And on that plane, there was a flaw where there was just a hole drilled in one of the planes that had no purpose.
So every one of the Russian planes just had a hole drilled right there that's funny that exact
yeah so there's lots of that back to the trump thing i don't know that this particular thing
he did is so terrible i do know it's legal there's one thing i know you guys might know this too
if a president releases classified information it suddenly becomes not classified and okay like
the president can share all our secrets and that's within his power and authority
to do so on the fly. The moment he does it, it becomes okay because of
the power of his position. But what bothers me a little more is something we already
knew. He doesn't really have the temperament and judgment
to do this job really well. The temperament is the
thing that's most troubling to me
because I really don't like the narrative of 5D chess.
It doesn't make any sense.
Hungry, hungry hippos.
That's what he's playing.
What it is is a broken clock is right twice a day
where every once in a while,
he probably does think tactically
because he's not a buffoon and he'll get something right.
But a lot of the time it's like, oh, why did he fire Comey today?
And people are desperately trying to backpedal or whatever.
This is like a last week example.
We move at light speed now in the news.
A year's worth of news every week.
It's just like the fucking Viking show we're watching.
It's just, boom, but we don't have time for anything. boom but we don't have time for anything people are getting bored out there like they'll just backpedal and be like
oh no it made total sense like no this isn't the time to be justifying your your vote for trump
like that time was in voting time like now if anything you should be hoping to hold his feet
to the fire a bit and be like well you, you know, goddamn, he's not doing the things you want it done.
The Comey thing, like, they laid it all out there.
Like, the president did it because this guy recommended it, etc.
It had nothing to do with the Russian investigation, etc.
And then they interview him, like, a day or two later.
And he literally says, I made the decision.
I was going to do it regardless of what he said.
The Russian thing is all fake news.
It's a fake story, I think
he called it. And you're like, oh my gosh.
So you fired him
to impede the investigation.
That's what you did. I don't think he did it
to impede the investigation. He did.
No, no, hold on. You'd have to be really,
really genuinely
stupid to do
a cover-up this way. I genuinely think that in his head, he's like,
I didn't do anything wrong with Russia. I'm tired of being criticized for this.
Comey won't take my side and do anything, so I'm getting rid of him. And he's making emotional
decisions about getting rid of people who aren't, quote, loyal to his side. And he doesn't have
anyone in his sphere of influence who would look to him and go hey trump this is a really stupid idea right now because if you have nothing to do with russia just let this
pan out and if you do have something to do with russia then this makes it look like a cover-up
and you're basically putting that first nail through your palm on the cross like it's it
doesn't i really do think that he's not trying to cover it up i think he's just bad at making
decisions and bad at putting he's putting people trying to cover it up i think he's just bad at making decisions and bad
at putting he's putting people trying to impede the investigation right cover up implies that
he's guilty but trying to impede the investigation do you think the investigation stops when the
when comey's gone though i think trump might no and and here's the thing it what i think is in
trump's head is that he has the right to hire and fire the FBI, and now he's trying to make the FBI like a politicized branch.
Previously, they were kind of independent, and the people who led it served across presidents.
Now he needs a loyalist to run this thing, and that's what he's looking for.
That's why everyone –
Oh, man.
I can't imagine that.
He's getting horrible at his job.
I hope that's not the case.
That's what everyone... Oh, man, I can't imagine that....horrible at his job. I hope that's not the case. Yeah, I don't think that's...
That's what bothers me.
That's what I'm...
Because the way the FBI works is, like,
now that Comey's gone, like, a whole series of...
It's like, you know, cut the head off the Hydra,
although our FBI shouldn't.
Yeah, they're not the Hydra.
They're good people.
No, we love them.
You know, plenty of people rose up.
And, you know, the investigation continues.
You know, his deputy is going to take his place,
and then they're going to find an interim to take over for that guy,
and then they're going to hire a guy to, like, replace this guy.
It's not like a, oh, man, I hope he doesn't like the apprentice.
I was about to say it's not like the apprentice,
but every time he hires somebody,
I'm hoping that he's going to make it a televised thing,
that he's going to be like, you know, like, he's just going to come on.
You know, the president has that thing I've talked about before,
the presidential address, where all of the television, and I keep waiting on Trump's first one, where all the networks, they're like, oh, we interrupt this to go live to the president of the United States.
And they don't even say shit more because you're just right there at his desk and he starts talking.
I want that.
And then the camera pans to all of his FBI directors.
I want him to introduce them one by one.
And they raise their hands.
And there's a bottom third. I want it to be
a reality show.
Here are this week's power rankings
of head
perspective chiefs
of staff. Oh my god, that would be hilarious.
And to you,
Commissioner Stevenson
of White Rose,
I will see you
next week.
What is it? I'm sorry. You get a buy.
Buy.
You can just hand out
all of them, right?
Oh, and you get a totem.
You're free.
We just cover the different shows.
I am incredibly sorry. We're going to have to put
your torch out.
That was the first time I saw that.
Tell me if you guys saw a reality show before Survivor,
because in my head, that's like the first reality show I remember.
And before that, Cops.
Oh, Cops, the real world, and then Survivor.
So this is the first competition based survive uh reality show
competition reality show but kyle's right real world was before there's also like road rules
or something on mtv right it was a real world yeah yeah i didn't i never watched real world
or uh the other one you said it started good yes uh survivors started great
i remember watching that when it first came out and being just blown away at how like oh they
gotta eat worms to survive because it was the first reality show i'd ever seen that i was what
like 12 and so i'm like oh my god i hope they make it like that kind of mentality but well and
then in like season two or three like season one, of course, Richard Hatch wins, and he's the overweight gay guy, but he's also the thinker.
There's that final ceremony where the chick is like, I have to choose between the snake and the rat.
Between him and the last person left, and then she chose him.
And he won by out-thinking everyone.
But it was either season two or season three, there was this alpha male in the group who was succeeding and he had like led his tribe to like he killed a pig with a spear
on the island like normally you know they're eating that fucking rice and that's it like
there's no food to be had he made a spear and went and killed a boar and then like he gutted it and
he's like eating the eyeballs and like like getting every calorie out of this thing and i'm like wow
this is what i wanted to see this is a survivor and it was kind of like uh you know me getting the first taste of like
a bear grills survivor man type show but i believe it's pronounced grillis
you're right yeah it's chrysalis
chrysalis like some of the viking names it's uh it's roman it's roman it's bear gristless
um but like shortly thereafter like this was also the guy who made fire they vote them all for being
good worse okay worse he was the guy who could make fire as well like he was multi-talented
he's making the fire and he inhales the smoke and faints head first into his ready-made fire and his hands go into
the fire and you know like when you get choked out or whatever you're unconscious for three five
seconds before you can at least roll out of a fire his hands melted he stands up holding his
hands like this and the skin is draped off of them as he sprints into the river screaming in pain he
wants to continue,
but they helicopter him out, and the next time you see him,
he's all bandaged up like something out of a comedy movie.
It's absurd, like the way
his hands are all wrapped. And that was it.
And all because he wanted to be the dude
to actually survive, instead of doing
what everybody else does, which is like, laze around
and then go be like, dream a worm
tongue in other people's ear.
Where they're like, do you really think Janet
sees you as a friend?
It's like,
well, I thought she did. We picked berries
together all morning. Oh, I'm sure
you do. I'm sure you do. You're not like
Janice. You're not like Janice.
She's a little bit debaucherous.
Whatever the fuck they would say.
I don't know why I thought of that show. Oh, because we were talking
about putting the torches out and that's what they did.
That show is good.
The original reality show, and it's a bit of a competition if you think about it.
But nobody wins.
The police win.
Sometimes they get away.
The home team usually wins.
Yeah, it's the Harlem Globetrotters there.
Some of those old Cops episodes were late.
I don't know if you guys are aware of this but
like there was a point where the producers of cops started saying whoa whoa every episode is us
beating up and arresting six or eight black men i need two black men two latinos two white men
and a couple of rowdy like sexy chicks like that's our show every week and they really mixed it up
racially speaking,
so that it didn't actually represent what cops are doing out there.
But I remember back in the old days, this black guy in a barbershop.
It's nighttime.
He's in the upstairs loft of the barbershop,
screaming down this flight of stairs at two, maybe three cops
on a tile barbershop floor.
When he comes down, he's naked and crazed.
And they start battling it out in this barbershop floor when he comes down he's naked and crazed and they start battling it out in this
barbershop and before you know it the whole floor and the man are stretched in blood and he's still
going it there were plenty of episodes like that guys would get like pumped up on pcp and like the
cops are surrounding him that he just literally punches through a uh like a picket fence or something is like I remember an episode of cops
where there is a kind of a tough guy and he beat up somebody else it might have been a woman I don't
fully remember but I do remember the cop totally excited to beat the fuck out of this guy and he's
like he's talking to him he's getting a description and he and he's like, I'm going to get him. He's like, I am so happy to be in a job that lets me do this.
He's like, that guy will pay.
And in barely coded language, he is like, I'm going to fuck him up.
You know, like, these guys, they think they're tough.
Wait till I get there.
And I was, I don't know.
I wasn't sure how to feel about it.
Because, like, the perfect policeman, he just kind of, like, apprehends them and lets the court, you know, figure out the punishment.
They don't dish out punishment right there in the sidewalk.
This is Judge Dredd.
He's an anti-hero at this.
Don't worry.
I'll break a few bones.
Yeah.
Oh, my gosh.
Let's talk fitness.
Taylor.
How are you guys doing?
You know, I don't think Taylor's given up
the numbers yet. Where's your starting
weight? What's your target weight?
Oh, my
starting weight? I was at like
219.
Oh, you were right there with me. Okay.
And I'm at like 209.
You're a little taller than me. Are you taller than me?
No. I'm taller than you.
A little taller than me.
I don't know. Kyle saw me next to taller than you okay a little taller than me i'm i'm a
i don't know kyle saw me next to him i'm a little shorter than kyle me but um we're close yeah i
like before like six months ago i was at like 210 and i did my like loses a bunch of weight with no
attention to anything but calories which is very unhealthy to eat like 1100 calories a day
and i got down to like 190 and then over the course of like a couple weeks or a few months i
just ate like shit and did whatever i wanted and then when we started this thing i'm like i'm still
probably around like 195 198 or whatever and then like like i'll admit i came five and it was like
uh i guess not too not quite 220 like 217 or something like that and admit I gained five and it was like, uh, I guess not to not quite two 20,
like two 17 or something like that.
And I like got that and I'm like,
Oh,
maybe it was two six.
It was around there.
And I was just like,
Oh God damn.
Fuck,
fuck,
fuck,
fuck.
You know how it is.
Like when you like sneak the weight back on,
which sucks.
Kyle doesn't know what that's like as much.
Cause he's has better self control than me when it comes to gaining weight.
He had a moment.
Yeah.
I'm lowering down now.
13 or something. Yeah. Two 25. weight. He had a moment. Yeah. I'm lowering down now. 2013 or something.
Yeah, 225.
That's my high.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, that is pretty high.
Okay.
Well, then, yeah, now I'm at like 2.0.
I'll have to weigh myself again.
I'm only doing it like once a week as like the barometer thing.
So like every Sunday morning, I'm weighing myself.
Really?
To try and like keep it.
Because otherwise, like I get in my own head where I'll like weigh myself one day.
And just the natural thing of weight fluctuation is like, oh, cool, 206.
And then the next day it's like 207.2.
But I was good.
But I was good.
And then you just get in your own head.
Whereas I could just wait the whole week.
And then it's pretty much a guarantee that I'll go down a few pounds unless I really
fucked up and ate too much or ruined my
calories and then I don't so I'm at like 208 now 207 now I believe I started at like 181 182
something like that and I've gained about four or five pounds I'm gonna try to go to about 192 I'm
gonna try to gain 10 pounds and then uh try to cut a bunch of that weight off and see how that goes.
Yeah, my goal weight is like 192.
190 to like 192 is good for me.
I agree.
So I've been saying I started at 220.
I might have seen 222.
I'm not 100% sure.
But I definitely was at around 220-ish when we did this thing.
And I am now down 7.
I was down 6 last week. I'm losing about a pound a week the thing
and i read about it and as they say a pound a week is about a good target you know and more if you're
big like if you're really big um of course yeah yeah yeah then if you were you know you're too
you're going from 225 down if you were 450 you should definitely be losing two pounds a week
right yeah well the heck this thing even mentioned a pound a day.
They're like, you know, these guys can lose a pound a day when they weigh 400 pounds.
But if you're in my spot, a pound a week is not a bad place to be.
The thing is, like, I'd like to weigh 190.
That's 30 weeks.
I'm just like, oh, my God, Woody, how did you let this happen?
And I remember last year i did a
video about it too i went from 211 to 207 like a year ago this time and uh i'm like man i am
four pounds away from where i was last year after having lost seven or like it the numbers are
outrageous i don't understand because it's thermodynamics. I believe it is.
It is, but it's hard for...
We're fucking engines.
And I don't know what it is.
Because I've done it.
I know it could be...
Maybe it's just bad for your body the way I do it.
The way you do it, I've done it.
And it is not good for your body.
But it feels great to be like,
I lost 20 pounds in the last four weeks.
As soon as you...
Boom.
Done.
Yeah. Because I lost... i was at 225 uh
like you said in like 2013 or something like that i'm like 185 now that's like that's what 30 or 40
pounds yeah it's 40 pounds trying to do it sustainably like i mostly eat in my family we
call it george foreman chicken just picture it on the grill with a couple spices and shit
and uh mixed vegetables better if you actually made it on the grill i a couple spices and shit. And mixed vegetables. I think it would taste better if you actually made it on the grill.
I think that George Foreman is robbing you of delicious
flavors. It probably is.
Concur.
I eat
that a lot. Probably two meals a day.
I skip breakfasts. I don't know if
that's terrible or not, but sometimes I
just make it to like 10.30 and I'm like,
you know... You know that breakfast
is the most important meal of the day thing is a bunch of fucking
propaganda. It is. By the egg
consortium. Don't
need breakfast. You don't
need breakfast. No need to do it. And you break
the word down. Breaking your fast
from not eating for the night
before and potentially some other. I think it comes
from. Thanks Glenn Beck.
I think it comes from. Oh, stick with me
here. Stick with me here. I think
this like comes from some olden time when you. I think this comes from some
olden time when breakfast
was the first time you'd eaten since breakfast
the day before or something like that.
Maybe breakfast was the only meal they got back.
Maybe it's just an overnight fast.
Yeah, exactly.
What happens to me is it'll be like
10.30am and I'm like,
I can make it to 12.
I can certainly make it to like 11 40 and have an
early lunch and you know so it's just like there's no need to squeeze a meal in an hour and a half
before my next meal so i skip breakfast probably two three times maybe three times a week and uh
eat well and and that's it like i'm not perfect but like i've been pretty good the whole family
got cookout the
other day. People don't know Cookout. It's like a burger thing, and their milkshakes are great,
and I'm like, no, George Foreman chicken for me. I should have found something at Cookout. I bet
they do grilled chicken. They might, but I just don't trust it. I feel like restaurant food is
going to be way over salted. It's going to be the worst
quality ingredients they can get their hands
on, whatever's cheapest.
Look, it's not going to be forever. There will be a time
where I can have a meal and not
feel like I'm losing all my progress,
but I really want to lose weight.
The numbers are huge.
You can take your whole chicken,
and put that thing in the slow cooker,
and it'll just be delicious, fall-, like tender chicken meat that you could eat.
That would be so much better than that George Foreman chicken.
And whenever I hear about George Foreman chicken, I'm just like, ah, that's a terrible chicken.
I might get to that point.
Right now, I don't mind it so much.
Actually, all my – water.
I drink water mostly.
That's another change I made.
A lot of juice had crept into my diet.
I drink water mostly.
That's another change I made.
A lot of juice had crept into my diet.
My mother-in-law is living with us now,
and she has these preferences for all this crayon whatever and some medical reasons.
So the house is just loaded with my favorite juices.
And at first, when I switched to water,
really, we didn't like it.
I was sad about it.
It was just like, you know,
fuck you, this is the prison I live in.
Fuck it.
And now I don't feel that way.
Water is just sort of what I reach for.
It's the thing I drink.
Wait till like six more weeks of this and then
drink like a regular... Actually, don't
waste it on a regular Coke. Get like a Mexican
Coke with the real cane sugar
and it'll be so sweet you can barely enjoy it.
Like, mmm, I just needed a sip.
Yeah, you want the rest?
So I... Oh oh i weighed myself
after exercising i think it was yesterday and uh i was down nine pounds and it's like this does
not count no sir you are dehydrated you did this on purpose from now on i did it i started
skateboarding again and uh And that is exercise.
I was so exhausted.
I got back into the house.
I laid and I looked at the ceiling for like 10 minutes as I recovered from how hard it was.
And then I showered up and I hopped on the scale just to see a new low number.
And it was 211, which is nine down.
And it was not satisfying.
211 is still a fat weight for me.
And I need to be...
That first one will be good to see.
We'll both get there right around
the same time. You seem to be training
ahead of me. But yeah, if my
weight starts with one, that'll be a major landmark.
And also, I'd like to lose 10
pounds. That's a nice landmark. If there were
a lake near you that you could volunteer
a couple days a month to be a lifeguard, would do that no okay just checking yeah i because i because for
all i know you'd be like oh that would be cool no i could save some lives and a lake now that i'm a
little older it'll be harder to save the lives and therefore more exciting no two guys going down
you're like ah eeny meeny min meeny, miny, moe.
You know what I would like to do?
I've thought about this.
I was like, I could never actually do it
because I've got a family here
and I've got a sick mother-in-law.
I have responsibilities.
But hypothetical single Woody
would totally work for free
at a paramotor flight school
just teaching people to
fly dragging wings around it's physical work you know it's you're teaching people an athletic
activity and i would love it and lose weight it would be like my favorite kind of exercise
but uh that's not feasible well you're sticking to exercising doing good properties that you
could make into your own airfield.
Like if you bought all those woods behind you,
plowed them asunder, and made your own airfield there,
then maybe you could run this thing out of that barn.
You'd be in tremendous shape after clearing that forest.
With just the axe.
I need you in that red flannel shirt,
one of those hats with the ears on it, and a fucking axe.
The man today is probably not qualified to teach people.
Are you sticking to the exercise, the kettlebell on everything, Kyle?
For the most part?
I'm definitely still using the kettlebells.
They're in my room.
A lot of my workout gear is down here,
like a couple rooms to my left,
like the machines and stuff.
And definitely, of course, the Olympic-sized barbells
and shit that are just awkward to move around anywhere else and you can't do those exercises in a bedroom but
my my uh kettlebells are upstairs in my bedroom so whenever i'm like just not doing anything or
like i've been playing a lot of battlegrounds still um and there's lots of waiting screens
and just sitting around doing nothing so i'll always like crank out like a set like maybe i
just you know of kettlebells or something
while I wait to drop in or something like that.
And I die so often that there's a lot of waiting.
I play basketball for two hours.
I get one hell of a workout in.
Taylor, have you noticed any, or either of you,
do you feel better about yourself?
Are you seeing improvements?
Yeah, I'm definitely seeing improvements in my upper body.
Like I can feel my traps here are way...
And more cut and more angular.
And you have a very athletic shape now.
I, on the other hand, feel very bloated.
Very water heavy all the time. i i have i can i can hear
my belly right now go go and i'm looking for the point where like i cut my calories back down to
like 17 or 1800 and and and sweat a lot of this out it's it's not a fun feeling no that doesn't
sound as fun i'm having more fun though because i can, I started with, I started with the slab of marble and so I got to work backwards.
But like I can tell I'm feeling stronger, my forearms are getting bigger more
quickly than I would have thought. I don't like all the hand calluses. I've
been trying different lotions. I told you to use the gloves, you're like, oh the
gloves make it easier to do
like no you gotta wear the gloves
my hands are sick
in for a penny in for a pound
yeah I got a couple
rough ones on there
but it's not too bad
I can tell my traps are growing a lot
and my chest
and just I can tell my arms are kind of
recompositing if that is what it means
which what's what's the deltoid again here oh yeah yeah i can definitely tell it there like
um and then because i put on fat in my ass and my thighs like i can tell that i'm losing some
weight there but it's not the speed of weight that i'm accustomed to when i do the kyle method so like i feel like maybe i'm in my own head way too much but i feel like in real amounts of fat
i'm losing more than the scale shows because i'm putting on some muscle as well but it i don't know
i'm i'm really liking it i feel better i look better in my clothes i've been getting more
compliments uh like on like my shoulders looking good like in whatever kind of
shirt or whatnot but yeah i'm i'm really enjoying it and even the best thing about it isn't even
well being in shape and looking better seeing ladies here is obviously the best thing about it
but one of the other good things about it is that even if you have like a shit day and you're like
oh i didn't get that done i didn't achieve that that sucked i thought i was gonna be able to do
better at this or that like if you do that that, you can still be like, okay, well something was done. I did something
today. I took one step in the right direction and this wasn't a loss. You know, do you guys kind of
think that way a bit? Yeah. Especially with the diet. So the exercise is like, like that you put
that, you put it aside. But for me, it's sticking to the diet. And like when I go a day where I know
that I was disciplined, it was like, hey, regardless of what that scale says tomorrow, because it can be fooled by water fluctuations.
I know in my heart I was disciplined.
And I typically am.
I've been pretty disciplined.
Sometimes on camera, when I look here, I'm like, ooh, face is a little more chiseled.
But mostly disappointment.
is a little more chiseled, but mostly disappointment.
I've lost seven out of my
planned 30 pounds,
and...
Yeah, but you've stuck...
Not enough.
I think you're doing an excellent job.
It's kind of a lifestyle
change that you have to take place.
We'll all taper off
at some point. If Taylor kept
at this pace, he would eventually be so large it would be unseemly.
And if Woody kept up at this pace, he would be a very low-body-fat runner build.
And if I kept at this pace, I would be wings.
We're all going to taper this off to get to where we want to go at some point.
But I think you're right on pace and doing well.
I'm not going to throw wings into the bus anymore than I just did it's a good it had to be a big bus a big
fucking bus but but but like he would have already backslid right now whereas i wonder how he's doing
i you know you're like i'm only seven pounds down but what you're not saying is like well i went
down five and then back up three so i'm really down two but this week i'm down three more so
i'm down five and you know there's no fucked up no no no it's it's all accurate and it's all
truthful but i uh i i just i guess i was hoping that like so i have some shirts that don't look
good uh oh yeah i have two wardrobes do you yeah and i have some shirts i put it on and like it's funny
because i fussed at my wife because i'm like honey like none of these shirts don't fit right
these are winter shirts and all that because the shirts i reach for first were like still on the
laundry rotation or something and she's like you can't blame me for your shirts not fitting right. And it's like, oh, words hurt.
Not at all.
That's when you go and spend like $1,000 online shopping,
and you're like, ah, now they all fit.
Watch these now.
But the thing is, the shirts aren't broken.
I am, right?
What you do is you make it so that those shirts that I'm not wearing right now
start to look good.
I have like an echelon of clothes where like my normal jeans are usually like 32 or 33 waist.
The ones that like I'm feeling good when I wear the 32s.
I have 34s that are like, hey, you watch where you're headed, son.
I have a couple pairs of those that I have from years ago.
And when I know I have to put on the 34s,
I know that's bad news.
And I have one pair of 36s hid somewhere in there.
And if I ever have to break out the 36s.
Next to your serialized fucking ice cream scoop.
Yes.
Yeah, that's what it is like if i ever have to pull out
i know where the 36s are i'm pretty sure but those are my like what the fuck is like god damn like
that much more than than normal like so that's my i haven't touched those in a while i was looking
at bmi right and it said i needed to get to like 189 for me not to be fat anymore i think that might be off because i'm a little
biggish like like just built wide i am yeah like every doctor i've ever had as recently as like
last week my sleep apnea doctor i had to go and prove i was using my machine and stuff
and he's looking at my like breathing and he's like you have big lung capacity like you know
this is unusually large.
I've got a big rib cage and I've got a big waist.
Remember the fucking Dignois girl who did that to me and I hit her?
The BMI calculations are based on like an average bone structure, bone density and all that stuff.
You can go and get in one of those like pools where they immerse you in water and they get your 100% exact BMI. I'm gonna do that maybe when it's a number I might like.
If I do that now, we'll just confirm I'm fat,
which I can see with just a mirror.
But we could go to a better machine
when I think I'm normal and I'll prove it that way.
But you're right about the, for so long,
and I still am not 100% sold on it.
But like when people are like, oh, I'm just big boned, I'd be like, ah, no, everybody's got a skeleton.
You're fat.
You're fat.
And you want to say that your bones are the same.
And like I have gone to a doctor before, and he's like, yeah, you have a pretty large bone structure.
And I was like, oh, okay.
So maybe all those people on the internet weren't 100% right, and I was foolish for believing that.
It's not a big deal, though.
It's not like, yeah, I'm 180 pounds of extra bone.
Really? Are you all bone?
Are you just a big bone?
Just a big bone.
The way I see it is basically if you have a bigger frame upon which to build on that you can –
the way I almost see it is you can get fatter before people realize
how fat you are you know like you can put on more weight like i can get to uh like i have a friend
who's just you know about my same height but he's very slight just a smaller dude me at 207 six
pounds eight pounds whatever looks a lot better than him at 208 because he looks more slovenly
and sloppy.
If he doesn't listen to the show, it doesn't matter.
That really is a thing.
Yeah, Derek.
You idiot cunt.
Also, my bottom half is pretty heavy.
If you look at me, you might think Woody's just a normal
build type guy, but
my legs are actually a strong person's
legs.
Strong face. Hardy.
I was a human plow back in the day we were talking about rope climbing earlier today what i i told the story before what he went
up that rope like a fucking professional it was very impressive i wouldn't even try to climb that
goddamn rope it was impressive those thighs it was those thighs like you know a thigh muscle
shouldn't be able to grab things that That is totally how I do it.
Twist inside the skin and like grip a little bit like Velcro up that rope.
I do.
I hold the rope and then I like push up with the thighs and it's mostly legs for me.
I'm like –
I felt like –
It sounds stupid.
You know how a stripper will go up the pole and then she'll like do that backwards thing?
He could have done that on a rope.
He could have done that on a rope.
I am like – No jokes aside, I'm curiously good at rope climbing for some reason.
I had a friend like that in a wrestling class who, I don't know why, but the reason you said curiously good sparked a memory.
Because what my wrestling coach said to my friend who was in my class was, God, you are curiously good at this.
Because the thing you
know what they'd have you doing wrestling whatnot like like oh you gotta do bear crawls across the
mats and everything gets you exhausted and then uh you'd be like all right everybody walk on your
hands across and so basically for most people it was you'd have to get up on your hands and try and
walk across the mat on your hands and most people are falling over all the time and if you fall over
you have to stay where you were and do it again until you get
all the way across and back and whatnot are you walking on a handstand in a
handstand yes in a handstand like that like okay hand and it was hard like I
would yes I'd be like one three you fall you're like oh damn it and there was
this one guy Hayden in my in my club no yeah in my class. No. Yeah, in my class. He could just, on a whim, just ride up and then just pit pat the whole way over.
Like, you know when you see those dogs?
Like, oh, isn't that funny?
He's walking like people.
He would just there and back, no problem, to the point that the coach had to be like,
all right, all right, you do push-ups.
Because you're just clearly enjoying creepsing about just clearly enjoying like some capuchin monkey but
you know what else i was curiously good at the you mentioned it because of the wrestling our
wrestling team had this like it was like a pegboard and ah we climbed yeah there was like
a hole here and then like diagonally up each way and you just do that and uh like you know we had we had my wrestling team i wasn't on it but
it was like a all-star stud like very unusually good wrestlers in a dominant team and the best
of them could do this thing and then like fucking gay wad woody could also nail it out like they
were yeah we had that mma gym that was very difficult to do yeah I probably couldn't do it now
depending on the placement of the holes
like if it's just
but if you've got to like
oh
yeah I don't know how far
I don't know how far it was if it was a hard one
or not but yeah
the thing is you gotta keep it here me anyway
some people they get to here
and then like well now you're fucked like now you got to keep it here. Me, anyway. Some people, they'd get to here, and then, like, well, now you're fucked.
Like, now you have to bring that back in and do that.
I just keep it tight.
But, yeah, I was good at pull-ups.
Some of the body weight things I was good at in high school.
Sit-ups.
Did you weigh less than others?
I weighed less than I do now.
That's for sure.
I kicked ass in the physical fitness test in uh pull-ups dominated pull-ups
really now i got blue ribbons i did well in that too uh in running i got the white ribbon which
means thank you for coming out you know thanks for at least doing the track i think i did well
those things because i surfed and it builds up your lats and it's a similar muscle to doing pull-ups.
That's what it was. I'm glad we're all sticking to it because
I'm enjoying seeing the progress. It is easier. I'm sure you agree, Woody,
having people to reconvene with and knowing that you're going to be held at least a little
accountable. It is so much better because otherwise
I'd be all by myself. The rest of the family hasn't jumped on this train with me.
So I don't have anyone else to talk to about it.
So that's nice.
Did we have another topic?
There was Trump, the show, the fitness.
And Last Kingdom.
Yeah, there's the show.
The fitness thing.
Maybe we ran through it all.
I think we did. Well, it's been an hour. Yeah. All right. There we ran through it all. I think we did.
Well, it's been an hour.
Yeah.
All right.
There you go.
All right.
We got in.
Episode.
That's it.