Painkiller Already - PKN #20

Episode Date: January 8, 2015

In this weeks episode of PKN, the guys give their two cents on The Interview since Kyle is recovering from his deadly sickness.

and we're live so how are you feeling I feel a little bit better I've been sick for I don't know it feels like a month or something I've been sick for a while yeah I you've been you haven't sick for a while I haven't talked to you as much because I was at Jackie's family's house and everything like that yeah yeah I am when I when I get sick it seems seems like I get everything at once. It's like, I don't know, the cold will knock my immune system down a couple pegs and strep throat and some

stomach virus and everything else will jump in too. There was a time when I was vomiting and diarrhea and head cold and sinus pressure and the worst sore throat ever and muscle ach cold and like sinus pressure and like the worst sore throat ever and muscle aches and fever and uh and like sweating and like chills and i'm just sitting there like when will this be over but uh but i'm feeling i think i'm over the the worst of it now

and i'm i'm definitely feeling uh better that's a wreck now were you home alone um for the most part yeah it's uh kitty um kitty went to colorado again uh-huh so so she's she's off in colorado is she gonna move there for real like i wonder it's like there's been okay you guys have talked about moving to colorado she's talked about moving to colorado a lot i think you've given a little thought um but i haven't seen any actual action on making it happen like like prepping your current home for sale or painting or that's uh that's kind of what i've started doing not necessarily it's kind of with that in in in mind there's a bunch i've got this huge to-do list and uh and i started tackling that i'm gonna try to get with this new year it seems like a good time to start. So one of the things is I'm just trying to get organized and it may sound silly, but I have a wardrobe that like most people would be shocked by. I have like 70 pairs of underwear. Really?

Like, I don't know, 30 or 40 pairs of shoes, maybe 15 or 20 pairs of jeans. Is it all nice or does it need to be culled? There's going to be some culling, yeah. But not as much as with the t-shirts, there's lots of culling. What I was getting to next is there's so many goddamn t-shirts, just short sleeve and long sleeve t-shirts. And then there's like a menagerie of polo shirts and like button-up shirts and dress shirts and stuff like that.

Do you find you wear like 8% of it all the time, and the other 92% is just like, you know, I should have worn it. This should be in the rotation. And the reason for that is because I don't have enough closet space, so I've got different islands of clothes throughout my home. So what I did, I'm running all of my clothes through the wash right now, and it's taken all day, and they're still not done.

I'm about three-quarters of the way through, and I've ran 15 loads of laundry or something like that. And I'm folding everything that needs to be folded. Everything that needs to be culled is just going straight into a trash can. Like anything that just, I don't know, if it's just a regular black T-shirt, I'm like, I don't need you anymore, Walmart. Like, you've You gotta go. I've got 20 more just like you and better. I'm getting everything hung up and organized. That's the first step of getting a bunch of shit organized

because I think once my surroundings are more organized, I can focus more on work stuff and a lot of things. I got my Kunan subcompact pistols. I'm picking those up tomorrow. Oh, it's New Year's. That's that's right i cannot shit you know i haven't done um my horrible jokes oh that's right two this time are you prepared for them i don't know if i can take two the first is truly a bad joke it's not funny in the spirit of what this is supposed to be. And the second I thought was funny. So where do dogs who lost their tails go?

Tell me. To the retail store. That makes sense. Okay. What's 10 inches long, hard as a rock, full of semen, and makes all the ladies scream? What was that first? It's 10 inches long, hard as a rock, full of semen, and makes all the ladies scream. What was that first? It's 10 inches long,

hard as a rock, full of semen and makes all the ladies scream. The sock under my bed. Oh. Oh, God. I was trying to think of some way to clean that up.

I was thinking like, maybe like a, maybe put a submarine's at someone's ashes and little thing and what no yeah yeah right i was like is it a ship somehow how does the semen thing work oh well that would explain it yeah it's just dirty just a filthy joke okay just just a filthy joke so i went to my in-laws and um it was way better than like I feared it would be. So she visited us a while ago and I guess I'm still holding a grudge about it. Every time I saw her, she had a dig for me. Right.

And she came to my house and like, you know, I'd see her at like. So sometimes what happens is I roll out of bed and I start working. Right. And then I don't like shower and start my day until like 11 or 12, right? So I'd be like downstairs at 11 and she's like, oh, someone decided to get up. You know, like,

you have never worked this hard in your whole life. Don't you pass judgment on me. I will say shit. I'll say shit. I don't put up with that. I remember the last time. I put up with it for a week. And at the end of it, I was I just sort of was like, hey, why is it every time I see you, you have something negative to say? The challenge is they all came at me, right? They all came at me like, Woody, you know, I think you need to respect your elders. I think you came at her too hard. I was like, I wasn't hard at all. I did nothing compared to what she did to me. You should be talking to her about her disrespect. I get that she's older. That's why I put up with her shit for a week.

This trip, though, in fairness, perfect. Nothing negative to say. No problems. I'm driving there like angry. This bitch tries that again. Shit's going down. You're like cracking your knuckles. I'm just going to lay her out, man.

I'm just going to lay her right out. It's coming. It's coming. I am not putting up with anything. Not this year. I was arguing with Jackie. I was arguing with Jackie in the car on the way up. And she's like, what are you worried?

Nothing's even happened. I'm like, you better take my side this time. It's not not gonna go down like that other time it's a team here yeah same team same team maybe you're not in the car when i head home after this but it wasn't like that at all uh she was wonderful she was everything i hoped she'd be so So that's good news. Yeah, I don't like that shit. Every now and then I'll have some relative or something like throw some dig in there,

and I'll fucking stop right there. I'll be like, yeah, I'm lazy, but I won't say what I say to them because it wouldn't sound nice to say it publicly. But I'll set them right quickly. I'll let them know to shut the fuck up because i'm doing they could do theirs yeah it's you know like i think at one point you know the told her like you know i didn't ask for her opinion or something along those lines and i promise you i didn't i'm pretty fine with what's going on here so but uh but yeah i have nothing to complain about this time around well good that little trip went well went uh well smoothly uh but yeah as far as kitty in colorado um i think

she's strongly considering going out there she said she got some new like um uh like muscle patches that have it's not it's the part it's cbd which is some uh some part of marijuana that um is not uh it's not the part that gets you high. It's more of the pain and muscle relaxation part. I can hear you fine, by the way. I know. I figured. So she found some new patches out there that apparently help with her muscle pain a lot.

I don't know. I think that that's a big draw for her. And then she's got friends out there, and I think she's just genuinely enjoying the weather and stuff. She sent me pictures today of, know it's beautiful you know mountains and forests and valleys and stuff looks cool huh is it snowing um i think they're i don't think so no i don't think they was i know it snowed in southern californ. Yeah, I saw pictures of it on Reddit. What was I going to say?

When I think of Colorado weather, I think of thin air, kind of dry, crispy winter with snow, powdery snow. But Colorado is a big place, right? It's not all Aspen. Does she know where in Colorado she wants to live? I think they're near Denver. Maybe an hour from Denver or something like that. But I don't really know for sure. I haven't really asked too much. We've been working on a bunch of...

Usually when we talk, it's been business. I'm getting a bunch of things squared away for the end of the year. Got a bunch of stuff done. It's looking more and more like that tank thing might actually happen. I finally got in touch with my tank guy. He went dark

on us and didn't reply to any emails or phone calls. It turned out I was right. He was in Jordan. He was in the kingdom of Jordan working on the king of Jordan's guns. He's back from that. Wasn't there a deadline on that the king of jordan's guns um so so he's back from that and uh wasn't there a deadline on that was that supposed to be this quarter they uh they extended the deadline out for us um oh that'd be awesome if that happened yeah yeah and i think i've got a meeting with them coming up

soon so i think we're gonna smooth everything over get it done so i don't want to ruin anything awesome but i think i can say this did that mortar video go up yet no no i i don't think i don't want to ruin anything awesome but i think i can say this did that mortar video go up yet no no i i don't think i don't think i can upload that kitty says it looks it's she said it's too dangerous what it's too awesome no no you know destroyer of fun jesus christ i'll upload it i showed it to not i showed it to the network guy the network guy thought it was awesome but you know it just didn't it wouldn't showed it to the network guy. The network guy thought it was awesome, but it wouldn't look great to sponsors and stuff. People might not want to work with us as much.

It's pretty crazy, man. It is pretty scary. Oh, no. It's the best thing you've ever done. And this is coming from a guy who'd prefer you didn't die. I don't think it was that great. It was pretty cool. I'll upload it eventually.

The audio of the background event was epic. Like, what happened? And then it's like... Oh, man. Yeah, I agree. It was a pretty cool moment. I've got it filmed and everything. I'll hang on to it.

It's there. It'll go up eventually, but not anytime soon, I don't think. I got a lot of other stuff going on. They're always wanting to make a TV show that involves me, and I've said no so many times, and they just keep saying, but no, we'll make it just how you want. So they're constantly – But there's also the money, right?

So I think I've talked about this once before. So in Fast Forward, as I like to do,'ve talked about this once before so in fast forward as i to do like they talked about a tv show with me in it it wasn't anything serious you know i didn't get that far but they did describe what the process would be like and basically the first one the first season you do almost for free or certainly well below what you're worth and then if that goes well then or maybe you do a pilot for free if that goes well you do a season for way below like what you're currently worth and if that goes well seasons two three and whatever can be you know really worth your time have they talked about

that with you like um the no i have a pretty i have a pretty um a pretty, I want to get paid for my work, basically. Like, I'm not interested in some sort of back-end deal off the start or anything like that. Like, but no, we're going to give you 65% of, you know, like, shirts and T-shirts and hats. And, like, okay, well, like, if I had a well-established TV show, that's great. But we're just, like, throwing one, you know, we're throwing a dart at the wall here. We're seeing if this TV show concept will even work. I'd like to get paid for a dart at the wall here. We're seeing if distribution of concept will even work. I'd like to get paid for the time that I invest here. I would get paid

an amount that I'd be happy with to do the thing. I'm on board financially. Whatever it's going to be, it's going to be myself and a couple other guys. It'd be a sort of thing where we build some guns and shoot guns. It'd be sort of a comedy gun show. What happened to Epic Mealtime Show?

I don't have TV, so I don't keep on top of it. I think they got another season. Did they? They got extended. I think so. Oh, cool. I think they're doing pretty well with that. And, you know, the Sons of Guns thing is off the air now,

so you wouldn't even have to compete with them anymore. That guy, I've met the guy maybe once and I know the rest of the guys that were on the show better than him. I say I know them. I've met them more often than I have him. I don't know anything about that and I've had

close friends that mutually know him. Some of them be like, yeah, man, it's dark shit. Some of them be like yeah man it's dark shit and some of them be like nah you know you know how it is they you know you can't believe this and that but i don't know i think both of his daughters are accusing him of raping them or something like that so it's looking really bad so there's probably some people who don't know what you're talking about the lead in is it sons of guns was accused of being involved in child porn do i have that right i think it was child i think he was molesting his daughters i think that was the thing

oh okay i may have it wrong i thought i had heard that though and um they're molesting his daughters and now that was what you just said too right like both daughters have come out and said something i think so yeah i think like an older daughter came out more recently and said something. I'm not plugged into that shit at all. Right. I don't care about that. But they took his show off the air. So his viewers might be looking for a new home perhaps.

Yeah, yeah. So, you know, it's something like that. And I think we do something similar but more fun and less fake. You know, they – If there's one thing FPS Rush is good with, it's less fake. Yeah, exactly. I guess that's true, actually.

I like to do it for real. I don't like to do... Like, there's no... The only special effects we've ever used was that quad rotor video for Activision. But everything else is just, you know, there's no, like, flares added in with after effects there's no smoke or anything like

that if you see something explode or turn into a fireball or fly through the air or if you see a tree get chopped down like it just got fucking done like after that we may play it off like nothing really just happened and I'll be straight facing whoa that was interesting we just shot a

tree down but like after the cameras's wrapped i'm just we're all just like what the fucking thing you know um i think that's why a lot of people think that some of the stuff isn't real like when that door flew past me and i just kind of go like that like i think they expected more and they're like ah but he turned so late yeah my reaction time just wasn't good enough yeah everyone was like you can tell it's fake because he didn't jump or something dude no you can tell it's real because he didn't jump that shit happens in a hurry spider-man might have been able to do something but my reaction time was oh god here it comes oh god oh god and like by the time I turned I turned in time to watch it continue on that way like it was there was no reacting

to something moving that fast very fast so I like to do things for real and like what I mean by that is like if we were going to build a gun and like show it doing something I wouldn't fake it and that's what a lot of the shows do they're like what I would like to do for real is the actual machining work

and you know the logistics the actual making're like, what I would like to do for real is the actual machining work and, you know, the logistics, the actual making of a gun. I've always wanted to do, you ever see the Alien movies with Sigourney Weaver? Yeah. Remember Alien 2, that big fucking gun they've got that's attached to them, they're swinging around, the big heavy machine gun? All that is is an MG42 and like a zero shock mount or something for a camera and a bunch of motorcycle parts. I've got access to all that shit.

I'd love to build that for real. It's very easy to do. I've got the MG42. I've got the mount. I've got the motorcycle parts. What, get a catalog? I've got people who know how to do that shit. That would be the sort of thing I'd like to do on the TV show. Like, sure we could, of

course, you know, there's the procedural rules of reality TV, where we're like, eh, we're here today to build this gun for everything you're about to hear is fake. We're not building for anyone, we're building it for your entertainment. But we need to say that this is a business where we build guns for people, so here we go like you gotta stick that bullshit in there we're like because you need a driving factory you can't just say hey there this is our tv show where we entertain you apparently that doesn't work anymore you've got to have a purpose for doing the things you're doing everybody wants to i wonder why because that would work for me i think it would work for me too it works on youtube and you know so my vote one thing about youtube that that works is the

sincerity behind it right like that's if you're insincere on youtube then you're done you know like it has to be real it has to if it's too polished every so often you see somebody take a real television or radio style and try and put it on youtube and And it's like, get your shit out of here. You know, like, I feel like it needs to be real. I wish I could describe it a little better. No, I know what you mean. Yeah. They seem unconnected. Like, they're talking to this gigantic, broad audience.

Like, they're broadcasting. But, you know, you should be connected more to these people. Like, they're your subscribers. They're, like, you know, they're plugged into you as much as you into you same team for them right yeah connected's a better word than sincere right like you like so i've been watching a lot of um vlog butters do you know the vlog brothers at all do you know their channel no they um it's it's really scripted and um he basically teaches you about a thing they have a channel called crash course It covers a lot of history and science. And then they have Vlogbrothers,

and it covers all sorts of things. I saw one about racism recently. He just sort of did racism by the numbers. And their production is a really good job. But somehow I still feel like he's the guy telling me, right? As opposed to when I watch, you know, CNN, Fox News, MSNBC, you pick it. It's like this is the organization that's telling me like this is just a talking head but with the vlog brothers because you know it's youtube they

they just connect a little more it's cool i like youtube better and that's what twitch is and the magic in twitch is the reality behind it it's not even about video games to me i it's about something real i I don't know. Oh, speaking of dangerous topic, but did you see wings of redemption lost his Twitch channel? Yeah. Well, he wasn't, I don't know how long his screen had been black.

I don't know how long he had been technically not streaming stuff. Someone made it seem as if he was just switching games and it was a brief intermission. And that the real reason might have been that he was talking about shooting himself and all that. But I don't know. I watched his Drew video. He seems upbeat. I think people need to stop taking the stuff he does on social media like these quick flare-ups of depression and outbursts so seriously. I know that's probably not what a lot of people would say, but I think when you see him in the videos, he seems pretty upbeat.

Really? I don't know. I go the other side. I think that the flare-ups that you're describing, I guess, and I don't have any special insight other than just knowing him for a couple years, are probably the account for the larger majority of his time than the video i think on the video and he said it himself a dozen times like he'll fake being happy for the video

you know hey guys it's jordy jordy i'm doing the thing here watch me hit some gloves and walk around the neighborhood and stuff and i think that that is the part that is is insincere you know that but he looks like he's having a good time with drew and i feel like if you're down and you're like really feeling shitty and suicidal like he wouldn't be able to handle that workout like i think the good times are temporary and and depression is usually about not seeing your way out of this hole and that's where he. He hasn't solved his major problems. He said, I think, I forget where, if he wrote it somewhere or if it was in a video, but he was like, Drew's great.

Drew, you know, he's happy. He's motivates me. And when I time with him is great. He even brings me healthy foods, but he can't live with me 24 by seven. And when he's not around, I'm eating. That's why he's gained 10, 20 pounds. I don't know what the exact number is. 430, I think.

You think it's 30? He's 430 pounds. Oh, he's 430, so that would be 21 pounds or whatever. You know how it is. All those numbers are crazy. At some point, he may have hit 423 fucking times in the last eight weeks. I don't know.

It doesn't matter. It's such a small percentage of his body weight. I saw a guy on fucking Reddit today that lost, this is off the top of my head, but 110 pounds in six or nine months or something. And went from looking like wings to looking like. Somewhere in between. It was significant. Yes. It was like, oh yeah, I see that version of human being

all the time. His previous form is a very rare Pokemon. Is it? Actually, I found him that quickly. This is the right guy, right? Snorlax. Let's see.

That's him. He went from, I mean, basically not human. Like really huge, unnaturally large, to he looks muscular even. His arms look kind of jacked. I don't know. He's got the sleeveless shirt on. Yeah, I'm sure he's been working out to get there.

Yeah, and Wings could do the same thing. Totally. I think Wings is having a hard time. I think that he's just struggling right now, and he can't seem to find his way out. And we'll see. It stinks that he lost his Twitch channel. That stuff takes a long time to build,

and he's been at this for five years. So no joke. I'm sure he'll be able to. If they give him a channel back, I'm sure he'll get his subscriber if they give him a channel back like i'm sure he'll get his subscriber base back there here's the thing um so before twitch tv was twitch tv they were justin tv as you know and uh it used to be like justin tv you stream and there were like six of them and all almost parallel right like no one of them was particularly better than the other. And then Justin TV exploded. Do you remember why? Yeah. The, uh, the, the suicide, the suicide. Yeah.

Some guy killed himself on Justin TV, which is also the reason that, you know, billionaires challenge thing, you know, that, that guy planned a suicide, a fake one so that he could get the same sort of, you know, I'm looking for the street to word for attention, whatever, so that he could get the same sort of glow. Publicity. Publicity, that works, that Justin.TV got. So I think Justin.TV, while they really did benefit from the guy killing himself on air, doesn't want that again, and that they're particularly sensitive to people talking about

suicide yeah they probably they probably work pretty hard to get those google search results to go away a fresh one would really would really uh make it difficult yeah you know wings redemption talking about suicide on twitch would totally just like pull twitch into the story if that were to happen i don't't know why he talks so freely about that stuff. The way things are, you wouldn't want to put those words in your own mouth, literally. You don't want to say that.

Let's say 10 years from now, this guy's married, and he's divorced again, and he's fighting over a kid and they start bringing these transcripts out i just don't want that on my resume of like things that i have said publicly like crazy shit talking about yeah it's a 45 acp here's a picture of the box of bullets with a receipt i got the hollow points want to make sure like getting all creepy and scary with that shit. These are real things he's done too. Yeah, these are things that Wings of Religion has done. I wouldn't

want that on me. I wouldn't want someone to be able to go, clickety-click, look at my phone, here's you doing some really crazy, fucked up shit. No, you can't work at my whatever, workplace because of this. Like you just don't want to do that.

I don't know. Depression is a rough thing. There's no easy way to – The hopelessness of it is the part that's hard to get out, right? To everyone watching, they're like, dude, you've got every advantage in the world. You've got a a part-time job that pays full-time pay if you're willing to work part-time you um you've got all these people supporting you they gave them nine grand at one point if i have my numbers right on

indiegogo you know between you and drew he's had support in real life that most people don't get. But in his head, it's just hopeless. There's no way out of this. You made a good point when you said earlier something about not being able to see your way out of the pit of despair. I was looking at my to-do list that I mentioned earlier. It's very big because I procrastinate a lot. I was looking at this thing and I feel like I've just been pushing it and it's been getting bigger

and bigger and I'm like I looked at everything on the to-do list and I was like Jesus this is really hard I'm going to have a hard time getting all this this is like next year's to-do list by the way I'm not ridiculous trying to do this shit in like a week or something it's crazy shit I've got to get done but I was looking at it and I was like

and it was starting to bother me. I thought to myself, wait a minute. Is there one single thing on this list that you don't think that you're capable of doing? Is there anything here that Kyle can't do? I was like, no. There's nothing on that list that I can't do. I can do everything on that

list. The trick is just doing them in fucking order. It's just doing them. Just taking a it's just it's just doing them that's that's the just taking a bite out of it right you know just like every day touch it just touch it you know make a thing go forward a lot of i would guess if it's like my to-do list a lot of times it's not something i have to manually do myself those are the easy items the hard ones are the ones where i have to get some government agency or company to approve of the thing. There's a lot of boulders.

I think of those things as like boulders that need pushing off a cliff. They've got tons of potential energy, but I have to get them over the hump and get them rolling. And once I get it rolling, they'll do their own thing because there's a whole government agency whose job is to do this thing. But it's just, you know, it's annoying. I've got to go to the lawyer. I've got to set up all this paperwork. Then I need $1,200. But in $200 increments, that all has to go here.

Then I've got to set this up. I'll have to get my cousin and my father to come on the same day to sign the paperwork. And this is just one little facet of one little part of one of the issues. It's like getting my firearms trust set up and transferring suppressors and stuff. It's got a bunch of stuff to get done, but

I'm working on it now. I'm excited about the new year, 2015. That's a nice little round number. I'm looking forward to 2015. I'm going to do some fun things. 2014 has been good, I thought. Did you like your year? I didn't like my year, but I like 2014 as a year

for humanity, I think. I think 2014 as a year for humanity, I think. I think 2014 was a pretty progressive year. I think a lot of good things happened. I was listening to Fox News on my satellite radio, and they were like, 2014, a year went, and they start listing all the bad things that happened. I was like, really, Fox? And I was just like fuck you guys like

like they listed like air tragedies it was the safest year for air travel ever was it really like yeah yeah 2014 safest year for air travel ever uh i bet crimes down across the board i bet everything's down across the board it was great great year 2014 like of course there's trouble in the middle east that's been go back to like go back to 1974 i bet there was trouble in the middle east george carlin used to have this routine where he's like there's always fighting in the middle east always you can go back to before christ and in the middle east they're fighting each other he says when a hundred million trillion years from now when the earth is hurtling towards the sun and there's nothing left but amoeba the amoebas in the middle east will be

fighting one another into the sun to the death yeah that's their deal yeah when i when i read on reddit that like i don't know some cultural heritage site in syria has been destroyed i'm like please they were going to get them all eventually anyway. Soon that'll all turn back into sand again. And then they'll turn the sand into glass. And then the glass will turn back into sand. There's not going to be peace in that region. Those people all want a piece

of some shitty sandy pie. We should let them eat their shitty sandy pie until they're full. I don't think the US should be the world's policeman. I don't think. I think we should get them eat their shitty sandy pie until they're full i don't think the u.s should be the world's policeman i don't think i think we should get off of oil and oil is getting off of us oil is dropped to fucking nothing it's beautiful to see i didn't think i'd live to see this i didn't think it happened i thought world war three would be fought over oil nobody wants that shit it seems gas prices are like two dollars a gallon do you know why it's dropping? Do you know why they're doing it?

Like, have you read about it? No. Yeah, so the scoop is this. Russia's into the oil business, and the United States are into the oil business. Russia's less, and Saudi Arabia, of course, the Middle East. The Middle East has the cheapest,

most modern, greatest facilities, period. So they can survive low oil prices. Russia has a lot of oil, but they suck. they suck so like they can't turn off their like if they stop pumping apparently the wells will just stop like they can't stop pumping or their oil business is over their equipment is old and shitty and it's inefficient so they have a hard time weathering low oil prices. Now the United States, we're not crappy at it, but the nature of our oil is harder to get it. It comes from shale. It comes from fracking. So if you don't know what shale is, you probably do, but maybe someone listening doesn't. It's this, it looks almost like coal. It's a rock. And I think you squeeze it and you get the oil out

of the rock. Not nearly as nice as like putting a hole in the ground and having it sprout out like the Beverly Hill Hillbillies. So what Saudi Arabia has done is they've kept the supply high and knowing supply and demand that makes the demand stays level and you raise the supply, then the prices drop. And they've intentionally lowered the price of oil trying to hurt the U.S. and Russia until they can no longer be in this business. Like, if these shale guys go out of business, then they'll be the only ones left standing.

If Russia goes out of business, then Saudi's the only one left standing. And that's the business plan. I think that you can't hurt the Americans. We'll fucking subsidize that shit. We don't give a fuck. It's almost a, um... So, America and their military, it's kind of a national

security issue. Like it's nice having some kind of oil independence. You know, if we go to the Middle East, we can't expect the Middle East to ship us oil. We're the number one producer of oil now. I've heard that. Yeah. But if you put us out of business because the price drop, I think the magic number is something like 40 or 50 dollars a barrel

less than that and we start losing money so I saw Saudi Arabia was running at a deficit like 40 billion a day or something I don't think they can hang with that seems like a good plan

to fuck with Russia because they seem like I don't think they can hang with us. That seems like a good plan to fuck with Russia because they seem like... I don't know. They seem 25 years behind us infrastructurally. Even more, actually, because we've been hooked up since fucking Eisenhower. But they're not going to... We'll subsidize that shit.

Like it's fucking corn or something. The United States won't let their oil business die. I love that shit. That oil money is so well connected politically. They can't fuck with us. So I don't love everything about Obama. Although I'm accused of that. But I will say like I can't see what he's done so wrong.

The spying stuff. Unless he has some motivation for spying on citizens that i don't understand what it comes out and he like lets us know that turns out i couldn't say anything before but um 40 of the united states population had been taken over by the lizard people we have this we know who the lizard people are their names will be released now and like they start going over the screen and you just hear gunshots in the streets as the right people if that happens i'll say my bad but dude i could go back to the remember that tarp stuff he did where he bailed out the big banks and all that yeah it turns out he was right and i was wrong it turns out that

shit made money he made a profit off bailing out the banks they all became solvent again a lot of the cylindra remember they made all that they made the big deal out of that that company cylindra that did the um the solar panels or whatever? Right, right. Something like that. They're back making money. I don't know if Solyndra in particular is making money, but that fund, that program that invested in green energy, very profitable. Solyndra, I think, was a miss and there was another miss.

I think Solyndra, I think I read that they were like – Coming around? Okay, I stand corrected then perhaps. But yeah, I was reading about it they were like coming around. Okay. I stand corrected then perhaps, but I was reading about it back in the black in terms of like, dude, any venture capitalist would love to have the hit rate that somehow government had who knew. Right.

And then, um, you know, the, the, he's pulling out of wars. He's reducing stuff. Peace seems to be coming.

That's turning out. Okay. The, um, the, the economy as well, that'd be nice. We're working on, they are, they're turning out okay. The economy, of course. We're working on Guantanamo as well. That would be nice. They are.

They're moving dozens out, they said. Unemployment is at the lowest it's been in ages. And people will, you know, there's always someone like, all right, unemployment might be great, but the labor participation rate isn't so great. Yeah, whatever. You know, there are larger demographic trends like baby boomers staying retired that that will impact the labor participation rate but when it comes to like

what else did he do oh the health care thing health care costs have stopped rising that's worked out well um what else it just seems like all the major stuff that he's done it's like i i don't get why he's not more popular because things seem to be going well yet they blame they blamed him for ebola really i'm on board for i'm with you yeah i agree with almost all of that the um the spying thing really bugs me i don't like that i feel like he's maybe they're being too indiscriminate with those drone strikes i feel like we're blowing up a lot of weddings and shit um other than that though going pretty smoothly they uh they haven't went after guns in a while um you wouldn't want to make an emperor obama i don't think but uh with the current checks and balances he's he's done pretty well i think the

next two years are going to be pretty telling to see um you know what he's going to do with the republican congress also i want to see what the, now that the Republicans have both the Senate and the Congress, I want to see what they do with it, right? If they're like, all right, first thing we got to do, cut taxes for the rich and raise it for the poor. Or, you know, let's fuck up bandwidth in the United States. Like we have to make sure that cities and towns can't offer, you know, competition to Time Warner or Comcast or whatever.

I feel like that's the stuff I hear from them. Like right out of the gate, I'm like, oh man, my mind was opening to you guys. I was totally down for it. Here comes another election. Let's look at all the candidates. Let's see where we stand. Okay. We got to start making the church more important.

We got to start this and that. And I'm like, oh, my God, all the stuff I'm hearing from you. So Obama went in favor of net neutrality. In a nutshell, net neutrality means all traffic is created equal. You can't buy better service. And a lot of people like that because it lets smaller companies compete with bigger ones. Or if you happen to provide that service, it stops you from being able to penalize someone else. So if you're Comcast and you provide cable, it stops you from making Netflix suck.

I have a question. Go on. Why doesn't Netflix become a provider? They've already got the customer base. They've got everybody's names. They know where you live. They need to get on that. They need to be laying some lines it's a whole nother business right it's really capital intensive you know it's super hard to start that business i've been giving them nine dollars a month for as long as i can remember like they should be able to wrap this up like

like run some fiber out here it seems like it would behoove them maybe they're they're like we don't want to pay for that. They know they're getting kind of a good deal by as long as there's net neutrality. How much of the total bandwidth is Netflix? Is it a third?

Yeah, I was going to say a third, 45%. I think it's a third. That's outrageous. That means that at any one time, one third of the information that's swirling around the the uh the worldwide web is is some asshole streaming fucking parks and recreation you know in their living room that's that's pretty awesome that's a huge company that's a huge thing yeah i they really you know what should, I wish they hadn't screwed it up. Do you remember that time they split off the DVD and the streaming into two companies?

And I think they made it like GoGo or something. And then they put it back together and they try to double the price. And ever since then, Netflix lost its love, right? I still like the service. I'm still mostly happy, but I don't sit there and root for them. I don't put on team Netflix shirts, right? I still like the service. I'm still mostly happy, but I don't sit there and root for them. I don't put on team Netflix shirts, right? Like TiVo. I don't know if you ever heard of TiVo, the little DVR, like the original DVR. Dude, people loved them. They were on their side. Apple's a better example. People wear Apple clothes and put Apple stickers on their car

and they are team Apple, right? They're Mac enthusiasts. I don't think you see that for Netflix. I feel like Netflix lost the love. People are still fine with them, but they're not sitting there rooting for Netflix over Amazon. They're just customers. It didn't bother me when they did that because, I don't know, that whole procrastination thing. I'll tell you what happened many times.

I would get those DVDs. They would sit on top of my DVD player and months would go by. I had a couple of... They were so cool about it. You could just go and click a box. You didn't even have to lie to a person.

You could just lie to a checkbox on their website and be like, lost it! They just forgive it. Like, an infinite number of times, seemingly. Like, I lost a lot of stuff. I've got some of it still here. I'd find it eventually.

I've got a couple of DVDs that were Netflix property, but I just never could get into the whole, like, rotation of, like, sending them back and receiving them. It's a cool idea. So we had two DVDs, like that was the size of our queue, which was like one for me and one for Jackie. And I'd sit there,

use mine all the time. And she'd sit there and like sit on it. And I'm like, Jackie, we effectively rented this CVD, this one for $14. Can we, can I return this?

No, no, you can't return it. But, but you need to watch it or not i don't know it got to feel like work i'll return that shit oh let me know when you want to watch it they'll send it back again your time's up should have yeah well no we're not i don't know maybe just maybe just click that i lost it box and have a second d. I never even heard of that until just now. Oh yeah.

I think I had the three DVDs. At one point I did. I was watching the series. I think that's how I started watching Dexter. That was like the only way I could do it. My internet at the time, my download speed was 1.5 and my upload was .7 so I wasn't going to be

torrenting or like streaming it online or anything like that. I had the Dexter DVDs coming and I could get three of them at a time because he only put two episodes on a disc or something like that so it was so lame. You couldn't even get a whole season at once. You'd get six episodes in

and you're just like, shit! Alright, let me go to the post office. True Blood and Band of Brothers were both like that for me i watched them via dvd and it you'd watch it you'd love it you'd get maybe two of them in there and then you're done mail it back six days later you'll get another one or something that sucked yeah that sucks a lot that that was when i was just like i was in my head i'm like why don't they just send me a god damn thumb drive

with the whole season on it and everything i've ever read and watched like why don't they just do thumb drives it makes so much more sense that's the that's the uh the netflix service i want to sign on to where they'll just send you a thumb drive and you just pop it in dude i i'm trying to so we're doing we're moving into a new home. Maybe in like 10 days, I hope. Maybe. It's a little ambitious, but we'll see. And I'm trying to figure out what to do. Like, maybe no TVs.

Maybe we just have projectors. Only projectors. Screens that drop from the ceiling. George Jetson? Dude, why not, right? screens that drop from the ceiling George Jetson dude why not right it could be 104 inch televisions or nothing put away rolled up into nothing

it could be like why not and part of the knock is like I can't watch TV during the day good I never watch TV during the day if you're watching TV during the day you're a slacking get to work I think you're watching TV during the day, you're a slackin'. Get to work. No, I think you're... I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know either. I think you'd want to start with one. See, the thing is... I think that might be smart. I would be afraid I'd get it. My fear with the projector, it always is, is that I'm going to get it to where it is.

I guess it's not going to be bright enough and sharp enough that I'm going to have a blurry dull picture, which is what I've seen with low-end ones. I just don't know enough about them, but I'm really intrigued with the idea of having a theater. I love movies so much. It's my favorite

subject. It's my favorite thing to do. I just watched The Hobbit. It was terrible. Was it? Yeah, it sucked. Is it the third one? Yeah, last one. That it the third one yeah last one that's the last time uh they'll it's over now because the i i don't think they'll give them permission to to to do any more movies on any more of um tolkien's uh the tolkien estate has shut them down like that they're done i'm mad at the hobbit it sucked the first two aren't good enough either the first they got worse as they go as they went um the the first one was you've read the book i i guess i shouldn't spoil the fucking hobbit it's in theaters but and but the books and i'll no i

won't spoil it but i will say this i felt like they should have the first 15 minutes of the third film should have been in the second film, and the third film should have never been made. Remember at the end of Return of the King, how you were like, is it over? Oh, it's still not over. Oh, the lights would dim, and then they'd get dull,

and you kept having these scenes. They needed 20 minutes of that and the whole third movie could have been let go like that whole battle at the end was lame that I thought the third movie sucked there was a part where Legolas like this is

hold on I haven't seen the movie I have read the book I don't know what part you're talking about but let me guess Legolas is a fucking superhero that would make Spider-Man blush. Yes. Spider-Man could not have done what Legolas did. So there's this big stone tower that has fallen across a precipice. It's bridging the gap.

Legolas actually... Let me tell you how it got there. Did he shoot the tower with an arrow? He ran out of fucking arrows. He reaches back and he's out. Because he's been in auto-aim mode for a whole scene just laying guys out

without arrows. And he's got to get across the precipice. So he jumps and does a backflip and lands on this gigantic monster's head. And he like... It's got like reins attached to its eyelids. And he like... He rides it into the tower.

The tower falls over the precipice and he makes his way across. Then he gets in this crazy battle with a super badass orc. It's like the... what is it? It's the white orc's son. Okay.

It's that guy. He gets in a crazy battle with that guy where the tower is shattering and falling apart. And at one point the entire tower is in free fall sideways and blocks are in midair falling and he's running on them. Uphill, like there's stairs.

Trucking. He's just like air walking up these stone stairs that aren't connected to anything. They're falling out of the goddamn sky. But he's running on them, uphill, climbing. And they're seemingly unaffected by this which is not how physics works. Every time he steps's running on them, uphill, climbing, and they're seemingly unaffected by

this, which is not how physics works. Every time he steps off one of them, they should fall faster, but they don't, and the way he got to the tower before he did the backflip, he rode on a bat, okay? The bat was flying. He was hanging upside down from the bat, and when he got to where he wanted to be, he shot the bat in the head with an arrow and fell on the tower. It was just stupid. And the eagles, of course, come in at the end and save the day. It was such a...

It was so bad. I was really let down. There was one part where I was literally going... I booed. I booed at one point. I literally went... I wasn't loud. I literally went, I wasn't loud, I just went, boo.

It was when he was doing the running thing. I booed at that, and there was another part where bearing in mind that Legolas shouldn't even be in this story, he's having a conversation with one of the

other elves, the king of the woodland elves his father and that guy's like there's a there's a young dunedain ranger you should go check out but you have they know him as strider but you'll have to discover his real name and it's just like why do we even need that bullshit there so that all these little kids can get excited and whisper aragorn like i don't need that bullshit in bullshit in here. It's not even in the story. Yeah, and besides, so Aragorn was like, what, 35 in the first film? So in that Hobbit time, he would have been like... Negative 35.

He would have been like 35. No, no, no. So in the two towers, he's like 80 or 90, something like that. How is he 80 or 90? He's a man. He's a descendant of Numenor, so he's blessed with luck. Oh, okay. Then I made a mistake then. Yeah, okay. Yeah, he's going to end up being like 150 before he dies or something. I remember now at the end, they said he lived an extraordinarily long life.

Yeah, yeah. Hmm. Because there was that scene where they're walking the Helms deep and the lady's like, my lord, you cannot be 80. And he's like, 80, 89.

Or it was something ridiculous like that. He's like super old. Which made all of his relationships extra creepy. But it kind of explained his relationship with the elf chick because she was probably like 400 or something. I don't know. I was very let down by The Hobbit.

Didn't like it at all. I saw the interview. Did you see that? Yeah, I saw the interview. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was middle of the road for Seth Rogen films, which is pretty good in the great scheme of things. Yeah.

I had a good time with it. I didn't like it as much as Pineapple Express, but I thought the whole controversy of the thing made me enjoy it a bit more. The fact that it's Kim Jong-un, which is a ridiculous thing, that's in our real lives that we have to deal with, it's fun to see that Mocked made it better. And, you know, at one point he shoved that thing up his ass and then James Franco, James Franco's like,

dude, you got fucked by RoboCop. They hate us. Cause they ain't us. They hate us. They hate us. Cause they ain't us. I love the cameos,

uh, Eminem at the beginning going, going on that whole thing. That was hilarious. Even the little quick tidbit with Joseph Gordon-Levitt, whose name is difficult to say for some reason, sitting with the puppies. That was cool to me. He's an A-list

actor. He doesn't have to be in there with puppies, but he's got a sense of humor. I like that. I like the whole thing. My only complaint with that is I feel that they definitely edited out some of the Kim Jong-un death sequence. I know that his head was supposed to explode into flaming chunks of bone and brain and flesh.

Remember, there's an explosion. His lips are kind of like from the wind, and his skin is kind of vibrating. I didn't catch the difference between what I saw in the film. Yeah. I feel like it was supposed to be more gory i uh my only complaint was like somehow the flow didn't quite match like there were a lot of funny scenes in it but i feel like it wasn't a great movie you know it suffers from what almost every single seth rogan movie uh suffers from and that's that they're two hours long instead of 90 minutes long. They need to be 90 minutes long because after the 90 minutes,

I start getting chuckled out. And I know it's funny, but I'm just kind of over it. I'm just, for whatever reason, I remember I felt that way about, remember the whole last sequence of Pineapple Express where they're underground in like the... No, I didn't see the movie. Oh, you. I need to apparently yeah but

like there is a scene i don't want to ruin anything but two people are fighting and one gets injured then the other gets injured in the same way then the other gets injured and it's hilarious yeah right right and uh um you know i was like it's really good that was a great scene the m&m scene great scene they hate us because they ain't us, great scene. There were so many great scenes in this, but put together, I just don't walk away like, oh, that movie was so awesome. I feel like where they dropped the ball was when James Franco's hanging out with Kim. I feel like they should have expanded on that and given that seven, ten more minutes of funny.

I needed them doing some more crazy shit. He owns his own country. He's the ruler of North Korea. Okay, it's cool. You got a tiger tank. That's real cool. Let's go out and play with that. Of course, he's got women. But I thought the basketball scene could have been something much cooler. I don't know if

that was a budgetary issue or what. I felt like it was as much a James Franco movie, if not more, than a Seth Rogen movie. James Franco was really good. Like, he was going above and beyond. I think the biggest laugh for me

was when the North Korean agent takes the poison and starts chewing it up, and their reaction, they're just like, oh! Oh! Oh! No! no no and he's just like your gum tastes like shit like and later on they're just like you sure you're feeling all right man you should really get some rest and he's like your your continuing concern for my

well-being only makes me more suspicious and i'm just and then he shit himself and vomits the whole that was great i like my favorite part was the fight scene I talked about earlier where they traded injuries like I was it had me really engaged I had people tweeting at me because I was tweeting that like things on here somebody was like we get it you're being

paid I'm like no I'm just excited about this thing I think it's a cool movie and I know a lot of people aren't aware that you can stream it for $6 on Xbox or go out and steal it if that's your thing. I don't care either way, but you can watch it. It's out, and it was pretty good. I think it was definitely worth the $6.

I don't know if it's true, because I just read it on the internet, but I heard South Korea is putting the movie on balloons and dropping it off in North Korea. They are. How incredible would it be if this started a coup that actually got the guy killed? Well, who would be next and what would happen?

I don't know. What if it happened like in the movie? Someone took over and was like, we want democratic elections. What if it all went well, like it never does in real life? I don't know. There'll be some other short, fat man

in a gray Dr. Evil suit to take his place, I guess. I'm just amused by North Korea, man. They crack me up. They're hilarious. It's a shame that they do all those terrible things to the people. I read something on Reddit today about experimenting on mentally and physically handicapped children with gas and stuff that they've apparently been doing. I hate to believe that I'm falling for propaganda just like they do, but I read that if you do something against the government, they put you, your kids, and your grandkids in jail,

and then your great-grandkids get out. Really? There are people whose grandchildren are in jail right now because of something their grandparents did? That's insane. Just imagine how obedient you would be, though. be like come on man let's make a break for it it's easy for you Jim your family's dead I got like 37 relatives who go to the goddamn concentration camp if I cross that line yeah it would be like

that like oh it's like we got your aunt we got your uncle we got your neighbor Carl I don't even like Carl. Well, he's dead. I was told that growing up, they told us that about East Germany. Like, why don't they just make a run for it? Why don't they get across? It's right there. You know, there was like a 15-yard swim for freedom to get to West Germany. I was like, why don't they just go for it?

It's like, ah, you know, they go after your family. They lock them up. You know, you can't just escape without knowing the damage you leave behind yeah and i've heard a few stories of like people who have gotten out and like they've got electrified fences and shit that killed people like one of the guys that got out he was like yeah the fence got my buddy like he just got electrocuted to death that would that's a scary place hmm yeah well russia's in a tough spot right now saudi arabia has fucked them up and along with u.s sanctions that's another

thing obama you know like of course a lot of it is the oil prices but a lot of is the sanctions too i was at i think a gun store, right? And somehow Obama came up and, oh my gosh, have you ever heard Obama come up at a gun store? Not a lot of fans at the rifle shop. So, and they're like, oh yeah, I'm sure Russia's quaking in their boots about the Obama sanctions. And I just shrug like, I don't really know. I bet it has an impact.

Largest economy on the planet maybe you know and uh here we are a few months later russia's crumbling they're having a really hard time with some basic shit like i saw that like they were making some sort of move to keep the price of vodka low they were they were um canceling vacations for government officials. Right, I've heard that. Really tightening back. I think that between the sanctions and the stuff with Saudi Arabia, yeah, they're in a rough spot.

All they need now is some sort of military endeavor. Yeah. Yeah, they need one of those fucking Eastern Bloc countries that they've been picking on for the last 30 years to be like, fuck them, and tanks ahead, like charge in. We'll see. Like Slovenia.

Slovenia's like, we've got eight tanks at 37, man, to Moscow. That might be all it takes. Dude, on a totally unrelated note, so I've got my Woody Craft status on my monitors all day, all the time. I know what's happening. WoodyCraft has been crushing it. I'm talking about player counts in particular right now. We've gotten bigger.

We're like 25% bigger than we were a month ago. That's awesome. It's pretty exciting for me. It used to be if we had over 2,000 players, it was like, all right, cool, things are strong. Now 2,000. Hell, we pull that at 11 p.m. at night. We've broken 2,800 in the last three days in a row.

That's kind of cool. That's really good. Yeah. That's awesome. 2,400 was like a recent record, and now 2,800? I'm hoping we break 3,000 tomorrow. I think I'd be very excited about that.

Yeah, I remember you and I having a conversation when you were having a little bump in the road, you know, maybe six months into you getting things started up, and we were on the phone talking, and I was like, you never know, it might turn into this, this, and that. And it totally has. Like, it totally has. It's great. It's surpassed all expectations.

Yeah. Yeah, we were like, I was like, maybe you could do this. You never know. And sure enough, here you are. You're doing that and more. That's great. We have four new games under development right now. I haven't talked about them, but I'm very excited.

So, yeah, everything's going right. And it's also working well. You know, it used to be like, you know, if we had like 2,200 players, it's like, all right, things are going well, but everything feels kind of sketchy. We're, you know, trying to support all this. Now, 3,000, we're napping. Shit's fine. You know, not literally napping.

We're excited. But, you know, it'll be fine so that's a cool thing 3 000 people isn't going to break your system now not in the slightest we'll be fine that's great so uh how's the ddossing been has that chilled out any or is that like a is that just a way of life now yeah so i i'm i'm shy about talking about the details of how i handled it but um yeah the DDoSing they weren't even attacking us they were attacking other people who shared infrastructure with us and that's not a problem anymore so yeah so it's

all worked out the attacks are done now if you just figure out what color to paint your house your world before we started this so it looks like the time Warner thing is rolling along well and there's two things we need to get done before we move in paint and time warner and uh i'm talking to jackie like baby you're the weakest link you know you gotta you gotta step up you know catch up and uh um we talked to some friends of ours and like for example hope wants to paint her home her room orange and jackie's like whatever it's the kids room end of the hall kids have silly rooms like that and he's like this is a nice house

do you really want creamsicle mixed in with this stuff you know and i'm like yeah he's right you know this is this represents like all the work i've done in an entire lifetime maybe there's a cool way to do creamsicle though maybe there's a fancy creamsicle you could do maybe but i what i'd like to do is hire a decorator so then we looked around some are like 10 grand and that's just their advice and we don't want to spend that kind of money on no that seems silly but i said we've one that everyone seems to love was 190 bucks for three hours and she'll just sort of of bounce ideas off of her. There's no way that

$10,000 lady is literally whatever. 50 times better? Is that right? 70? I don't even know. 68 times better or something like that. There's no way. That'll be good.

That's something I often struggle with i think i think i've always struggled with that like i don't know what things should look like like yeah i'm not good at decorating i like i'm sitting on a scarlet red couch here in a room that's sort of an off-white you said something that burned into my head um like so we're looking at homes this is back before we picked our home or bought this one or whatever and some of them really stood out as awesome it's beautiful and you're like you know one of the things that makes this house so great is they've done something that you can't do and that I can't do and that no one on this call can do and that's decorate it wonderfully you know it's such class and everything pulled together and like if you go to my house now, it's like a mixed match of different bullshit that

doesn't really go. Some of it's nice. Some of it's really not nice. You know, there's like Target stuff standing next to, you know, real furniture and it takes away from the house. So yeah, exactly. That's, that's literally what it is. There's Target stuff next to like crate and barrel next to, you know, there's an $80 lamp next to a $3,000 sofa with like some $75 drapes. Like we could do better here. We could balance this out a little.

and every once in a while I tossed her $190 to keep us on the right track, that might make the whole home nicer. And the home's a big investment. If you do that three times, it's totally a good idea. So that's where we're trying to head on this thing. Well, that'd be good. I'm looking forward to when you're all established over there at Woody Manor or whatever you're going to call the place. I want to do some stuff.

I want to come hang out for one thing. I'd like to do that paintball thing. That'd be cool. I'd like to play some paintball. Do something PKA adventure-esque related. Something like that. I'm down. I can't wait. I feel like so much of my entire life has been on hold while headed over there quite often and shipping things and buying things and planning things and working with cable you'd think that like oh getting cable installed it's a lot of work no man it really is it's like starting another business trying to get these fuckers to actually do a construction project yeah

it's and it's almost over yeah that's been a nightmare getting get just getting your internet turned on that's absurd yep yep so uh so that's all going well so is that pkn i think we've been well over an hour it could be crazy yeah yeah that was a good one okay uh episode 20 bye guys later