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Painkiller Nearly, episode 232.
Little delay on the button press there.
Made me think I didn't press it, but it happened.
Well, how's everybody doing?
Good.
Actually, Kyle, you just woke up?
I think you're supposed to not answer that question and just say good, right?
That's the common, you know, courtesy to just say good.
Well, I think it's grammatically incorrect, though, right?
Shouldn't you say that you're doing well?
Because Superman does good. You're supposed to, but like that doesn't to me that doesn't sound genuine
you know like if i ask somebody how are you doing they go oh very well yeah no but if they say good
good it's like okay it sounds more honest to me you know i know it's not you know correct i think
i usually answer i'm doing well but so i look all the big stuff is going
fine do you guys get that seasonal effect disorder at all maybe even a little no you just
maybe i don't know if it's seasonal effect disorder i just really hate how cold it is and
it makes me sad when i have to like walk outside but that's more like an annoyance than like a
sad depressed i like it when it's...
You watch those movies where an asteroid hits
and they have years and years of darkness
and I'm like,
that's not so bad.
You're telling me it's like now
without the societal pressure to go out there.
I accept.
It's pretty nice.
When the world does end,
you're already going to be halfway to the light-sensitive Gollum people and so you'll have a
natural King you'll have those like old person like white filmy eyes where you
just your sense of hearing is so acute we had a great retinas from ten hours a
day on rust we had a break in the weather the last couple like I I flew
the last three days here cuz North Carolina had better weather and I had a midday fire and i'm like sitting on the swings just sort of soaking
in the sun and i need that like like i feel like my emotional state are our solar batteries that
need to be recharged sometimes it definitely helps now i'm looking at there's like a polar
like the second polar vortex of the last two weeks rolling in.
Our temperatures are going down into the – well, the highs are going into the 30s.
And the lows, who knows?
Teens probably. I think our high tomorrow is 7 and our low is minus 11 or something.
And at some point tomorrow, the coldest place on earth is going to be Chicago.
That's funny.
It's supposed to get down to like if you look at
detroit and chicago and like the northern midwest it's getting to like minus 30 in some places
like there's so much that like schools are getting canceled all around the midwest it's
gonna be minus 50 in the 50 something in the lower 48 and it's like that that's not a temperature
we're supposed to get that's like an alaska temperature uh you know an anomaly a weird
thing that other people have to deal with.
Yeah. It just started snowing
like another hour ago here.
So hopefully it doesn't get too much shitty.
I hear that song from the mamas and the papas.
All the leaves are brown
and the skies are gray.
And I'm like, oh.
That's gaming weather.
We're getting there. This just sounds nice i i hate this
i hate fucking sunny days go out there it's too bright my skin burns get out of here burning my
skin and blistering my eyes yeah i prefer cold and gray yeah absolutely overcast overcast with
a light drizzle and a bit of nip in the air.
Oh, I would much prefer... I always prefer the weather to be too hot than too cold.
Yeah, it keeps all those basketball-playing people
out of their yard over there.
It's good.
You don't hear,
tunk, tunk, tunk, tunk, all fucking day.
I don't need that shit.
I hate it.
Those basketball players.
Is that a creative epithet?
Yeah, it's a bunch of asian guys you know
yes vietnamese loud bass heavy vietnamese music um guys out there on his little loot whatever the
fuck that little thing i don't even know what a loot uh yeah you know i don't like the overcast i
can't get on board with that at all but a nice cold sunny day with a little nip in the air
is a cool thing to visit like i like that like that's nice every once in a while sometimes you
breathe in super i like it when if someone asked me to find the sun i couldn't that's that's not
my cup of tea on the other hand i might complain again when it's 105
out and i feel like i'm chased inside oh yeah fuck that no you just go outside and instantly
sweat like you try to put on like a collared shirt and you go outside you're like oh well
my back's sweaty now it's this is this day is ruined or the worst is like because i naturally
sweat so much like i'll just be in my car on the way somewhere and like halfway on like a 40 minute
drive or whatever it's like oh well i'm already in too deep i hope i'm not that ridiculous looking
when i get out of this and then like you get out of the car and your back's just soaked and you
look like a fat person yeah it's gross three hours oh speaking of fat people wings bought a mustang
do you see this just i didn't see that let me circle back to the last topic in a few seconds.
Next car, you might like those ventilated seats because that's exactly what it solves.
Yeah, I saw it.
I'm going to definitely look into that.
I saw Wings got a Mustang.
I couldn't tell at first if it was real.
Yeah, of course it's real.
Yeah, he's been looking at it for days, for a week or so.
been looking at it for days uh for for a week or so uh he got a salvage title uh like like six year old mustang uh that that has been in a pretty decent little collision you know does that mean it
was totaled and then repaired from being totaled that is what a title means yeah looking at the
damage it doesn't seem like it should have been totaled because i because i saw the before pictures
i've got the before pictures if you'd like to see um i saw a picture on the subreddit of the after picture yeah i'll show it
to you uh when it was crashed it's uh it doesn't look too serious to me all right so he sells for
me that's good here's the thing no of course not wait i didn't what was that exchange oh i asked if he sold his
trucks to buy a to buy the mustang i was only got one he's down to one okay yeah uh
one thing that happens when you earn your money online is the people who pay
feeling like authorized to tell you what you're allowed to buy you know wings how dare you get a
mustang you know our expectation is that you start walking everywhere because you're so goddamn broke
i don't want to hear another word out of you or to me buy your mustang if that makes you happy i'm
surprised it fits well i don't think that fits though i don't think this is the scenario of like
just because he's online people feel entitled to tell him what he can and can't buy i think it's a scenario of people donated
thousands and thousands of dollars for a weight loss surgery that was supposedly thirty thousand
dollars and turned out to be like forty five hundred dollars and then he he woes me woes me
i'm i'm all out of money and tax season's coming i'm so afraid and mama's having a heart attack
and grandma's had a wreck and i gotta take care of all this and hey a mustang you don't say a red one well well as a little those because my truck i don't know
if you've heard made a funny noise the other day his truck was making a this is what he does when
he's this is like um what's the thing when you make up uh like symptoms about yourself and the
illnesses he's a hypochondriac for his truck
when he was at my house and he was all stressed out about not having mama there all of a sudden
his truck started making a funny noise he's like do you hear that we're driving down the road we
have to go listen that's a very normal well not normal is not what i'm looking for it's a common
thing that people do as they talk themselves into new cars. You know, like there was someone in my universe who bought herself a new car.
And she was like, man, yeah, it was a good thing.
Because my car, it was going to break soon.
You know, Volkswagens do that.
And it's like, dude, if you want a new car, you want a new car.
Don't tell me that you got in right before its first symptom.
That's horseshit.
Like you're just inventing things yeah he's um it's interesting to me that he went with the sports car because he
was always shitting on those types of cars for years and years for a decade he's been talking
about what men do you know you're not a man if you're not driving a truck around here right yeah
we've talked about that before too like he has no idea what a man
he paints the entire south with the same i'm gonna get fucking yoked and i'm gonna drive a honda fit
that's my plan okay girly man yeah no you've seen those guys they're one of the the big youtube
fitness guys i think it's juji mufu is just jacked out of his goddamn gourd. So big
that he'd be the kind of person that
in public, you're like, wow.
You do not see someone like that even once
a month. And then he's
putting all this heavy ass shit
in this teeny little Honda Fit
or whatever the hell he has. Including himself.
And you know what it makes him look like? Looks like the
mountain in a carriage.
It's pretty badass. Maybe I just got the mountain on the carriage you know it's pretty badass maybe i just
got the mountain on the brain because i've been trying to get my my girl caught up on game of
thrones and uh that whole head popping scene happened last night and that uh that really
spooked her i think she was she was happy for a bit that that uh what's his name slice yeah
oberon the red viper got. Got a couple pokes in.
You know, she still doesn't know.
He looked like he was winning.
He didn't pack those pokes.
Yeah, he looked like he was winning,
but then he gets all high and mighty
and like smirking at his wife,
and then the mountain just brutalizes him.
Is that how it went wrong?
I popped her head like this!
I forgot the detail of how he got caught.
He was looking at his own...
He was doing a lot of stuff.... He was walking right next to him
and then he looked over and there's a little exchange
where she kind of smirks and he gives a little smirk
and then the mountain takes his
polar bear sized paw
and knocks him on his ass,
grabs him by the neck and then
everybody kind of knows that it's over from there.
I saw a picture of the mountain recently.
I wish I could find it quick enough
for the flow of the show.
He was holding a normal-sized coffee cup.
Oh, my God.
It looked like a thimble in his hand.
It was outrageous just how huge that guy was.
He's got, like, one finger through that little hole.
He was with his what seemed to be, like, a wife, girlfriend, sister.
You know, somebody he cared about.
And she had the same coffee cup in her hand.
So you could tell it wasn't, like like a prop coffee cup because it fit her like like here's a normal
person for a reference and and the coffee cups were the same size but the people my gosh he
dwarfed it i bet he could eat an actual midget midget you know like i bet he could devour it
that's why taylor needs a smart car i can't think of anything smaller but he needs to have
that same like honda fit frame of reference going on that he looks annoyed he's hulked out
that's what uh hickok that's the goal he drives a smart car yeah yeah that's hilarious isn't he
like six eight or something yeah he gets out of it and it's like whoa how'd they fold you up in
there holy shit he's got a video where he's like doing a drive-by in the woods in his smart car.
It's pretty funny.
I wonder how his YouTube channel is doing now.
It's not recommended for me lately.
But I just know that gun channels are sometimes getting...
Demonetization is more rampant than it used to be.
That's probably a YouTube thing, right?
Not getting recommended it.
Because I've definitely, in the past, I used to get recommended Hickok all the time.
And now that I think of it, you're right.
I haven't. Well, I still pop in and
check his video every so often.
I just never get recommendations.
My recommendations are always
what I'm into at the time.
Right now, it's a bunch of Russ shit. It's a bunch of
Comics Explained stuff.
And that's about it.
You know shit that i get suggested
all the time and i never watch are all of those late night clips like fallon and conan like i
don't watch those and every time they're suggested yeah i get those sometimes too and i do watch them
sometimes but i think we'll what i hate so i watch news clips from CNN, MSNBC, and Fox like all the time. But then I get
recommended this. It'll have a great title. Like, you know, Cuomo says you have to stop lying.
And then the YouTube channel will be just like a collection of letters that don't spell anything.
And it's 42 minutes long. And I'm like, yeah, you fucks. You just like pirate entire shows, put a fancy thumbnail and title on it, and try to suck me in.
It's, yeah, off-brand news pirating is suggested to me constantly.
Yeah.
So anyway, Wing's got himself a Mustang, and I'm looking forward to seeing, to learning more about that.
Is he planning on selling his current truck?
No, no.
Charlene is in the family for good.
She's not going anywhere.
Charlene. That's the name of his current truck. No, no. Charlene is in the family for good. She's not going anywhere. Charlene. That's the name of his current truck.
Oh, okay.
I don't hate it.
The only thing I hate about it is
I don't know that
his current truck needed to be replaced,
augmented, etc.
And now he's increased his cost of
living. I'm not sure he can afford that.
I can. He totally can afford that. He can.
He totally can.
The car was six grand.
Insurance is $400 a year.
Yeah, of course.
Well, then that's not too much, I guess.
But it's another $400 a year that he has to come up with.
Yeah, I guess.
I don't know.
See, I wouldn't.
That's the redemption we're talking about. My financing is a little different. yeah I guess I don't know see I wouldn't what's redemption
we're talking about
my financing's a little
different
dude
if you need some
if you need $2,000
from me
right
like you're selling
something for two grand
I'd be like
oh yeah maybe I should
get that
I'd like it
if you tell me
that fucking thing
is $11 a month
I'm like
get out of here
no way I'm signing up
for $11
every goddamn month
recurring
beat your feet
kid and that's why i
i fell victim to that recently where i was just like going through my bank statement and i was
like 75 to pof.com like a month ago what the fuck plenty of fish turns out is what that is
yeah and so i go on there to try and cancel it
because i uninstalled the app for my phone i'll fucking two weeks after i signed up for it because
it turns out of all of the dating sites plenty of fish is far and away the grossest like it's got
the worst groups of people on there quick question oh never mind you answered it i was gonna ask if
gross was good or bad in this context.
It depends on your perspective.
Yeah, yeah. There's some bad folks in there.
Gross in a day might be good.
And they make it hard to cancel your shit.
It's like, you need to put your email in here.
I'm like, I don't know what burner email I use for my money and fish account.
And it's like, well, I tried just a bunch of all the burner different emails I've done.
I couldn't find it.
I kept trying to find an actual call-in number,
and none of those were fruitful.
So I had to call my bank and issue a non-payment in the future
to anything POF.
I'll tell you what I do.
I think I've said it plenty of times before,
but it's a bit of advice for me to people to avoid this sort of thing.
Change your debit card about once every six months,
and if it was something you really needed,
you'll get it taken care of.
I talked to the lady about that. Does that work for you? You're coming to pick up my acetylene tanks? I need those. and if it was something you really needed, you'll get it taken care of. You'll be like, oh, what?
Does that work for you? I need those!
Does that work for you? For real?
Yeah, absolutely.
Because it's basically a stop payment
for anything that doesn't...
I said the woman that because I literally
remembered you saying it and I was like,
I'd like just a new debit card with a new number
so I can get rid of all these recurring payments
in one fell swoop.
And she was like, well, some of them is tied directly to the checking account. And so it
would just continue to... And I was like, well, how do I know which ones are and which ones aren't?
That's when you signed up for it. That's a lot. I've never had the other way. I think you have
to give them your checking account when you sign up. I'm with Kyle, but I'm on the other side of
it. Just recently, I went to a restaurant like 45 minutes from here,
and I realized I left my debit card there.
Okay, I could drive and go get it, or I could get a new card.
I thought the lazy option was to just be like, ah, forget it.
Send me a new card, and we're good.
That is not the lazy option.
Now all of a sudden, my AT&T bill is unpaid.
My Netflix bill is unpaid.
My daughter's texting me about
like things that she's expecting to be covered, not getting covered. And yeah, I have a lot of
recurring services apparently that I did want and would have been easier to drive.
Yeah, I need to get, I need to figure out a couple of the other bullshit ones that I
know I'm guaranteed still paying for. How do do you handle hope uh in her like college expenses is it like all right you get an allowance for this if
you run out before the end of the month means you weren't careful enough or is it kind of like
play it by ear more she has her own credit card that we pay for and we look at all the things she
bought and um you know it oh my god we're terrible people but like we like to look at it and be like huh
how you know is she eating fast food is she doing this is she and she knows she's not it's supposed
to be for emergencies that's the idea but whenever she needs something like hey like the cover for my
ipad is wearing out and the one corner is just barren and i'm worried about it it's like all
right put it on your card you know it comes through, we'll know.
So that's how she gets money, mostly.
Okay.
So it's an idealistically emergencies-only card.
Yeah, I guess so.
And then I guess she calls and gets permission to buy other things.
So that's that.
Also, we pay for her gas.
So theoretically theoretically she could
just go wild at anything a quickie mart sells you know she could go to pick up those 15 dollar one
gallon fuel tanks all she wants you know it says here that it's from bp i guess it's man the coolest
girl at university with all of those get empty gas or full gas pieces for everybody
yeah that that was what did your parents do uh it was more because i did like the youtube thing
i was spending a lot of my own money in like right you had it wasn't yeah it wasn't too
terrible a lot of my friends did the um the credit card like emergency
route but like so much of my money got spent on gas because i'd get like roped into especially
freshman year after that i stopped even telling people i had a car at school but like once you
get figured out for the guy because at the time i drove a jeep uh an suv in the dorm like it was
just conscripted every other day to drive people to
walmart and do shit like that because yeah i told my brother like when he went to school like oh
don't bring a car you'll just become a chauffeur fuck that like don't don't do it i am i'm sent
like this is a year ago now more than a year ago because it was an october thing but um she and a
bunch of friends did this they went to scarowinds you've probably never
heard of it but it's a yeah okay it's an amusement park and they do it up for halloween it's kind of
a big deal anyway the whole thing like picking up people going back and forth and whatever it was
like 10 hours of driving and nobody but me paid for a penny of fuel and it's like the fuck the
all right how does that happen because that sounds like a
lack of assertiveness with hope because in my high school and like just after that you know that
period of my life when i'm 16 to 22 driving there was a discussion about who's going to pay for fuel
when we went to like spring break i explained that I paid for Hope's fuel, right?
That's a thing that she gets to buy.
The other option is to have her like work all winter long and we want her focused on school.
Well, no.
My parents were also paying for my fuel.
Ah, yes.
But when I'm 16.
And yet I said, well, we're all going to Panama.
Mm-hmm.
11 hours each way.
We're all splitting the fuel, right?'s like uh yeah of course we don't expect you're driving if anything you should pay for less fuel I'm like that's how
I felt I felt like like you know oh don't worry daddy board warbucks has it all covered and uh
it's not the cost of the feeling I can swing the cost of the fuel it's that i felt
taken advantage of yeah you were yeah and that and i talked to her about it but that's where
like like look it's not even the money it's right and wrong you can't just screw me over
yeah i absolutely you're absolutely right yeah i'm really sensitive to that like i i
i don't know we went to a uh hear out. So there's a thing that Marines do.
Uh, they get a coin for some reason, like when they become Marines, I think it's a Marine thing.
And, uh, when you're out drinking together, someone produces this coin and everyone else
is obligated to produce it too. Whoever doesn't pays for the drinks. You follow so far?
Yeah.
If everyone has the coin,
then the guy who challenged has to pay for all the drinks.
That's the way that it works.
Well, I'm not drinking, right?
There's like 18 people at this table.
One guy produces the coin.
I don't have mine.
And suddenly I'm buying everybody's fucking drinks?
Yeah.
Well, that's different.
You're not a marine woody
well i'm sorry i didn't say the people who graduated from this flight school they do the
same tradition so oh yeah so you do have a coin you have like god these marines are assholes
no yeah so i do have a coin it was in the car and that's like one of the rules you can't modify the
coin to make it like part of the keychain you can't and i'm like i'm not drinking like i'm not even in this and there's like 18
people they're probably 30 drinks or something they want me to buy all of them and in my head
this is the way it's wired i'm like they would never pull this shit with like someone who couldn't
afford it like like like they're entitling themselves to my efforts and and all you had
to do was bring coin woody well in hindsight yeah but uh you have your coin on you right now
no i don't have my coin on me right now what the fuck it's fucking huge it's like like it
it laughs at silver dollars it's god let's order coins for the next drinking episode
i wish taylor and i had coins so bad that we'd never mentioned before and we're just like...
So you would have paid for everybody's drinks at that table?
Absolutely!
If I'm not drinking, fuck no.
Had you been told about this coin scenario in the past?
Like two years earlier.
Dude, it's that same shit when you go out with like a group of people and like i and my date
are drinking like budweiser or bud light or some like draft beer and they go you know another
couple goes through like a 40 bottle of wine and the other one goes through a 50 bottle of wine
and you know they order more food and it's like all right let's split the bill it's like no
no no i'm not gonna you know you're taking advantage of me and you think that i'm not
assertive enough to say fuck you no you're not gonna take advantage of me, and you think that I'm not assertive enough to say, fuck you. No, you're not going to take advantage of me.
Because those people know what they're doing.
It's so cheesy.
The coin thing's different.
I agree on splitting the bill, though.
The coin thing seems like some sort of...
First of all, it's a bit of a...
Returnal order?
Yeah, it's like a little bit of an initiation thing
for you to have to pay for the bill.
It's like taking a few swats to get into those gay boy clubs that they have in college.
Well, that I'm okay with, obviously.
The core, I just felt like, and I'm trying to phrase it without being an asshole.
Look, they've seen my videos.
They've seen my house.
I think they're all like, fuck, Woody will pay for it.
And it's like, no, you can't entitle yourself to what I've done.
I wouldn't do it to you.
I don't say, oh, yeah, you know, Johnny wouldn't do it to you i don't say oh yeah you know
johnny i'll pay for it whatever there's no johnny there um like i would never i would never well
next time you're at like a smoothie bar or something and you order yourself a big old
smoothie be like ah who's got their coin call them out make them pay for your smoothies well
i can't do that now i didn't pay that would be very poor taste yeah no i it's well so you guys are split on this i'm with taylor i i felt like
they were like not valuing you know the work that i put into getting
set that uh they were trying to be your friend by bringing you into the group and and with their
tradition that's not how it works like it's a
business that gives a coin to everyone and then they put the game around it and i uh yeah i felt
like they were trying to take advantage of me that's how how it reverberated in my head it's
hard to tell unless you're there like seeing kind of the vibe of it but yeah i would definitely not
be cool especially if i was drinking yeah i would i would pony up and deal with it but yeah i would definitely not be cool especially if i was drinking yeah i would i would
pony up and deal with it but if i was sitting there having water and they're all getting like
three four beers or whatever then no hell no there was more so there's like 18 people at a table
i didn't even talk to they were like too far away from me and then they like like i didn't see them
all night i saw them but like i wasn't with them and now I'm paying for all their drinks
because like next time bring your coin
guaranteed and just ask the server
like all right what's the
least alcoholic but most
expensive thing that you
have. What's that combo?
You know and then
hopefully you can get a little revenge.
Well I didn't pay.
I was like how should I because I really felt pay. I was like, how should I pay?
Because I really felt robbed.
I was like, what if I just dropped like 200 cash and walked out?
Like, I think that'd be, is that a bomber move or a baller move or an asshole move?
I think it might be.
Oh, that's an asshole move.
I just didn't like the situation.
No, this doesn't even cover it.
Where are you going?
To get my coin, asshole.
I don't know.
To me, it was just like, whatever.
They entitled themselves to me paying for them.
I was barely with them.
I wasn't drinking.
And then suddenly they're like, hey, remember that coin you got two years ago?
Now you have to pay for my drinks.
That's fucked.
I would carry the coin in the future.
Why would you carry that coin
so that you don't have to pay for drinks it's like big they all had it
another guy didn't have it too uh but then why wouldn't he have to pay no he's like i didn't
know the game right he said he didn't know the rules so then that doesn't matter They let him off the hook, they all looked at me
This is a little different now
Woody, see now you're starting
To drag me on board because there was
Another individual also without the coin
And somehow he had immunity
Yes
And I felt like they were just
Fapping into my bank account
You can't invite yourself to it
I can be generous but but you're not...
You can't entitle yourself.
Like, you're not entitled.
Yeah, I'm more on your side now because there was a person who apparently got immunity because
of some feigned ignorance.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
I won't name him.
Fair enough, fair enough.
He knows who he is.
I've been watching the second season of The Punisher.
How is it?
And it's pretty goddamn violent. That's the one that goes along withisher. How is it? It's pretty goddamn violent.
That's the one that goes along with Daredevil, right?
I mean, it's in the same universe.
The first season they were
intermingled.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Yeah, but
there's no Daredevil in this. There's none of the
other heroes seen
in this. It's just The Punisher.
And it's Jon Bernthal, the guy from Walking Dead.
He beat a man last night, I would assume to death,
with a two-and-a-half-pound plate, maybe a five-pound plate,
and it's just one after the other to the face.
And they show him throwing the blows, and I'm like,
this would have killed him by now.
Let's see what this guy looks
like after this. And then they show the guy
like they cut to a different angle.
So you see the face getting hit and I was just like,
Whoa! Oh God!
Oh, they went full force.
Negan thinks you took it too far.
It looks like that scene from Irreversible.
His face is ruined.
Oh, that scene from Irre...
With the fire extinguisher smashing the guy's face in. Yeah. His face is irrepar is ruined. Seen from here. With the fire extinguisher smashing the guy's face in.
Yeah.
His face is irreparably ruined.
He's dead, I think.
Honestly, I'm like 90% sure that the Punisher beat that man to death.
Like, he was like the biggest bad guy that the Russian gangster had.
He was like, don't kill him.
And like, sick this guy on him.
And this guy stands up looking like fucking Igor
with cauliflower ears.
And he beat this man's face off with a plate.
It was crazy.
It's a very violent show.
You made me think of Irreversible.
That show.
Dude, listeners, if listeners,
if you like a show that leaves you emotionally scarred,
this is a movie I mean to say,
Irreversible is one of the,
that fire beating scene that he's talking about
is not the rough one.
The rough one is the rape.
Oh, that's the hot part.
There is nothing hot about that rape it was that he
like i don't know how to describe this without being like a sick bastard but here i go um i feel
like when a guy rapes a woman because he's just like horny and filled with lust, he's evil. When a guy rapes a woman as like a punishment,
just hateful of the opposite gender,
he becomes a special kind of terrible.
Like he's even worse.
And dude, he couldn't be worse.
I'll save it for you,
but Irreversible is fucked up.
Monica Bellucci, one of my favorite actresses
very attractive lady big fan big fan yeah yeah and they make you like fall in love with her so
it's one of those movies if i remember it's told backwards right yeah yeah so i i ruined a lot of
it for you but they they it opens with like a fire extinguisher face smashing scene. And then they just show you like reversing in time as to what motivated it.
And my gosh,
like,
like she just,
whatever.
They just paint her as like the perfect girl.
And then,
uh,
it,
it,
it just,
it lays it out there in a way that's horrifying.
Yeah.
She's super hot.
She's super hot.
And everything that she's ever done.
Yeah.
Ah, irreversible.ible well i'm scarred i need to go back to my community that's what i've been watching the punisher too um it's
uh it's a little more fast-paced than the first season did you say a little bit more a little bit
more action okay yeah the first season felt like it sort of drug on and it was like more episodes
than it needed to be and i haven't finished season two yet,
but so far I've enjoyed it.
You know, like there's a few nitpicky things
I could complain about, but it's fine.
And it's very violent.
He kills so many people, so many people.
Is there going to be a season three?
Did it get picked up?
Do you know?
You know, if it doesn't,
then it won't be a matter of getting picked up.
It'll be a matter of whether Disney wants it over on their platform or not.
But it's so goddamn violent.
I just don't know if it's,
it's,
it's going to be their style.
It,
I mean,
it's,
it's rough,
dude.
That's interesting too.
I hadn't thought of it through that lens.
He kills 13 people in like the first two episodes.
Like,
like,
yeah,
I want to say it's pretty cool i just want
to see that disney streaming platform like hey can i interest you in a little maui a little
punisher you know would you like the rock to sing or john whatever his name is to bash a face in
bashing faces in just gunning people down burning people alive kneecapping people he beat some women
to just to death.
It was great. There were some female henchmen.
He didn't hold back at all.
That's a quality.
Not holding back is a thing I'm looking
for in my protagonist
at this point. Right in the kisser.
I want to see more children attacked on television
too. Because realistically
a bad guy isn't going to suddenly go light on a child.
You can't let Live League completely corner that market.
Yeah, Live League and World Star Hip Hop have a hegemony on that right now.
It needs to change.
Netflix needs to get on board.
Hulu needs to get on board.
How many kids does the Punisher kill, Kyle?
Probably not enough.
Never enough.
See, his kids were killed.
So that's sort of his one of his his
driving so he should know how it's done yeah so the guy's got a score to settle i'm not i'm not
hearing well he already he settled that score if i can't have kids no one can
like the assholes that bully people as seniors because they got bullied as freshmen and think
that it's like that's what you're supposed to do yeah he always like the the lamest people in
high school like the ones who actually took that like upperclassmen shit
seriously like it was never the the quote-unquote cool kids senior year who
were like haha freshman it was always the guy that was a fucking loser and got
picked on freshman year finally getting a little bit of bit of comeuppance on the young kids.
Did you guys notice that same thing?
Yeah, for sure.
In your schools?
Yeah, for sure.
My school was more widespread than that.
I just felt like there was a ranking system
that went more by physical ability than grade,
but they're correlated.
Yeah.
I really like Jon Bernthal.
I think he's a really good a really good actor uh like like
like he's a good actor in this punisher show it's got he's got some depth as a character you know
he has some real sad times and some real rageful moments where he loses control and you know this
his buddies have to rein him in like whoa whoa whoa stop torturing that guy he doesn't know
anything and he's like ah let me torture him some more stabbing people's hands
with a knife and wiggling the knife around tell me tell me where he is he's uh he's a rough customer
and and i also thought that like here's one of the things i've noticed i feel like they were like so
the character is a white man who roams the streets with assault weapons and kills minorities is that correct
uh yeah kills them all kills them real good wiping the streets clean well he's gonna need a lot of
minority friends to even that out we're gonna have to let's make his cop buddy arabic and a lady
let's make his best friend a one-legged black man And let's make his sidekick
A young lady
Now the last thing we want people to think
When they watch this program
Is that white men are anything but evil
Unfortunately
Rosenthal
What's the guy's name again?
John Bernthal
The character's name is Frank Castle
That even sounds tough
Badass
They needed to have more white gangsters then Frank Castle. Frank Castle. That even sounds tough. Badass. You know, they needed
to go, they needed to have more white gangsters
then. They should take, like, the ADT
home security approach, where
it's like, in those commercials, it'll just
inexplicably be, like, a
Croatian guy.
With a scheming.
And they can go away. It's like, who's getting robbed
by Eastern Europeans? Honestly, that's
what they're doing this season.
The bad guys are all white, if I'm being honest.
Like, he killed a few black people in the first season,
like, actual, like, drug dealers and stuff.
But this season, there's, like, two main antagonists.
And one of them is a white guy who's, like, an ex-friend of his.
And the other one is, there's some Russians.
They're kind of bad guys, obviously white.
And then, like like the big bad
white guy is like a billionaire like pulling the strings and trying to put his son and off
into the presidency dude i'm so bored of russian bad guys i'm so bored of arab bad guys let's pick
a new group of bad guys jack city have you seen that i haven't no oh you haven't, no. Oh, you haven't seen New Jack City? Nope. Is that a show? It's an older movie.
And Chris Rock is in it, I think.
If not, Chris Tucker, either one.
And basically, a gang takes over the projects,
and they have a really successful drug empire.
And I promise you, all the bad guys are black.
But not just black, like really black black like really black oh yeah yeah yeah it's um gangster talking i've seen this even on uh google the genre is
described as thriller slash blaxploitation that's joke does it really say that it says that yeah i
wonder if the new ghostbusters says femsploitation.
No, probably not. They're completely
going to disregard that when they make the next
Ghostbusters film. They're going to pretend like that
lady Ghostbuster thing was just a dark,
dark nightmare. They're going to do what they did with
the Keanu Reeves Hulk?
That was not Keanu Reeves. That was
Edward Norton.
I should have known that because he's good.
He wasn't good in that.
No, he wasn't. He's good.
I've heard that he's such an asshole to work with
that that's why his career has been kind of iffy
for the last decade.
Literally, people don't want to watch him.
He stars in one of my favorite movies, Moon.
No, he doesn't.
Sam Rockwell, yeah.
Isn't that him?
That's a completely different guy.
No, we just said Edward Norton.
Oh, I get those two guys mixed up so easily.
I would like to roll out the red carpet and welcome you to my world.
It's nice here, really.
You'll like it.
Thanks for welcoming me aboard.
Moon is excellent
and it's got my favorite child
molesting actor as the
voice of the robot in Moon, I want to say.
Kevin Spacey? That's right.
Yeah, it is Kevin Spacey.
I heard Joe Rogan.
That's a really good thriller.
He was talking about the MAGA hat wearing kids.
And he wasn't so offended by the hat as much as he was the Catholic Church.
He's like, you said at least five times,
it's the largest child raping organization in the world.
Number one.
Name a bigger child raping organization than the Catholic number one name a bigger child raping organization
than the catholic church and he just nambla they devote a lot of resources towards it yeah not as
prolific but they're much more committed to it yeah i feel like they're you know per nambla member
you may have them right but but if you just want to go with the raw amount of child rapes and and
joe rogan was like now this is coming from a Catholic.
I was raised in the Catholic Church.
And his guest was like, did they get you?
And he's like, no, but they could have.
And a lot of my friends have been gotten.
And I think he's talking about Brian Callahan.
I'm not sure.
But yeah, he just, he knows a lot.
It sounded like multiple people in his circle have been raped by the Catholic Church.
Was he talking to a Catholic person on the show show i don't think that she was catholic they i think she was actually
uh political based and that's how the kid with the maga hat came up and then um but they came
with the maga hat went to a catholic church and that rolled into the whole joe rogan ripping on
catholicism as the largest cat child raping organization in the world and i'm just like
yeah pedophiles and a lot of homosexuals in the clergy.
Who's bigger.
Yeah.
And I think,
I think a big part of why they're having problems,
this is an original thought to repeat.
When you take away like marriage and like healthy sexual relations from a
guy,
it can just become a breeding ground of weird shit.
I don't know.
I don't think,
no,
I don't think that's it. no go ahead that's it i think
that it's that that's a position where they can they can camouflage themselves right we've heard
of like gay guys having a beard which is basically a fake wife this is somewhere where they can go
and be that be a 25 year old normal man, and have no ladies in their life,
or men in their life,
and for it to be just fine and normal and perfect.
Like, oh yeah, of course Father Davis doesn't have
any people his age,
any sexual partners or any dates.
He's a priest.
Kind of like a built-in excuse, I guess.
Yeah, I think that's it.
Because I don't think... I'm not around women.
It doesn't offend me, but I feel like it's offensive
to the idea
that if you take sex away from a man,
he just immediately starts fucking young boys.
Well, he's there. It's a hole.
You can see the same shit
with even daycare centers
and places like that where
the kind of people who put themselves in those positions,
like not don't tend to be like that,
but people who want to harm children or do inappropriate things intentionally
seek out positions where they get that opportunity without any scrutiny.
Yeah.
And like,
I hear so many horror stories about like daycare workers beating the shit out
of kids and stuff like that.
So there's a chicken and the egg thing back on the priest,
you know, are they priests because they're fucked up?
Or are they fucked up because
they're priests? And it might be both.
It doesn't have to be one or the other.
But I feel like if you let them marry,
have a healthy relationship with a woman,
and a guiding light,
you take that away, you take away the rudder
to some extent. And who knows where this guy heads?
Like the smaller Orthodox churches that kind of broke off like greek greek orthodox and a couple other ones like
they're allowed to marry and i don't think it's like and they're less fucked up yeah i don't think
it's like a problem in in that church the way it is and because the pedos know they can't hide there
yeah it doesn't answer the cause and effect problem though oh that's true yeah yeah i you got to believe
that's happening in every like hierarchical major religion right i don't know why like i most of
here's what i believe i believe every large organization has some bad apples in it you know
there's probably some fucking i don't know politician well obvious politicians what are
it's a big organization uh the u.s is going to have some rapists in it.
Yeah, there's like a million people working in it.
You know, of course.
That'd be true of whatever.
Yeah, there's rapists everywhere.
Cisco had some murderers.
But nowhere are they.
There's not a million people in Hollywood,
and their per capita is off the charts.
That's true.
I think it fucks your head up when people worship you.
I could definitely see that.
Take a regular person.
I'm sorry, cut you off.
They're making $20 million a film.
Everyone in the world wants to fuck you.
And most people can't handle that.
Yeah, especially the kids.
Like the kids who get molested as their kids,
and then they grow up all fucked up,
and then they're more likely to do it
because they were fucked with as a kid.
I don't know, that's a pretty horrible thing.
Apparently there's a four-hour documentary
coming out about Michael Jackson
that may change my mind back to him being a pedophile again,
I'm told.
I've heard it's some rough stuff, a lot of interviews and a lot of stuff like that.
And whoever I was listening to, it wasn't a podcast.
It was an XM radio show that's pretty funny.
They're a little edgy.
And the guy was like, I think that people just separate the different Michaels.
He changed so drastically over time
that they have a hard time narrowing down which one to hate.
It's almost like he's four different people.
There's little Michael, there's black Michael,
there's, oh, is that still Michael?
And then there's Blade from Puppet Master.
Google Blade from Puppet Master real quick.
When he dropped that reference,
I was like, oh, he's been hanging on to that one.
That's a good reference.
It does look like him.
That's good.
So I look forward to seeing that.
Man, if it's four hours,
I don't know if I care enough yeah they'll have to
chop it up into one of those netflix like i want to watch that ted bundy show that everybody's
raving about i can't have you watched any yet because i'm always hesitant now whether to hop
on like the netflix show train yeah or whether i feel like it's not organic at all and they're
just like pushing it artificially i'm'm going to check it out for sure.
After this Punisher thing.
Um,
I like stuff like that.
I like the crazy,
like people interviews.
I watched,
uh,
a really old television interview recently of a mob hit man who had killed 37 people.
And he's on like a,
a talk show sitting across from an interviewer.
And it's just them for like 40 minutes.
And he's wearing a black mask to conceal
his identity and he's like the guy's trying to get him like find some sort of emotional
like regret or something in this guy and he's he's like you don't feel bad about any of them
he's like no why would i it's my job they was dead one way or another i just pulled the trigger
if i don't do it somebody else will do it.
I'd rather have the 20 grand.
And it's just like, okay, okay.
So you never felt bad.
No, I already said that three times.
I don't feel bad.
I kill.
It's just like over and over.
He asked him the same question.
And every time he comes back, no, I'm a killer.
I can see his point,
he's like,
it's like blaming the gun.
Someone else made the decision to kill him,
I just am the gun.
Yeah, I'm just the button man, that's kind of how he put it.
The guy's like, were all of your killings
for money?
Most of them.
So you have killed for other reasons.
Yeah! Some guys came to my house
looking for me, and my wife was there, and she was pregnant.
So they kicked her in the stomach.
Then they came and broke my neck.
I spent eight months in the hospital.
They made one mistake, though.
They didn't break my neck good enough.
He's like, what did you do? you ever seen someone shot with a 22 long rifle
over and over in the legs and the shoulders in the ribs so they bleed real good and the guy's like
no no i've never seen that before well let me tell you it's painful and fun that's what he said he was i just kept reloading
i as kyle's telling the story i'm like i have a 22 long rifle but the thing is it's a lever action
so it just seems ridiculous to like old time western that's probably what he was doing i bet
he had like a 10-22. He was talking about cutting the...
He was like, I cut the...
I flatten the heads of the bullets
so when they go in, they just scramble.
Have you seen that clip of like
fucking the BTK killer?
It was one of those guys
who's getting interviewed.
What's that stand for?
Buying Torture Kill.
Thank you.
And he's like...
I think it was him.
No, it was him maybe no
it was uh gacy john wayne gacy is who's interviewing in this one the killer clown
and it was just him like calmly sitting there like answering questions about how his specific
rope tying technique to strangle people to death like just casually like with an interviewer and
he's like well here come here i'll show you and he's like got a string and he's like now you do it like this here give me your wrist okay pretend your
wrist is a neck you do it like this you just tie it you're not gonna get that tight enough
it's gonna take forever yeah what are you gonna do what you do is you loop it like this take a
stick a pen larger than a pen but you know pretend something like this stick it in there twist it
now you've got that torque and you'll absolutely kill him much faster and it's like it was like a
peer-reviewed study of killing as fast as you can and it was just i don't know there's something
chilling about how coldly and without even a hint of remorse they talk about that stuff and it's not
even like they they are like a born-again christian where it's like i've forgiven myself for my my past transgressions it's like they're the wiring for him to understand what he
did being evil isn't there like it's not like he's going to come to terms and be and apologize
at some point it's like he's just a fucking psychopath he doesn't get it i see it as close
to that it's like no i'm the wiring to understand that it's evil is completely intact.
He just doesn't care that it's evil.
Like that doesn't bother him.
Yeah, those people are probably just as scary, actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
With the guy I was discussing, they were like, you know, you know, what you're doing is inhuman.
You know, it's a terrible thing. He's like like i've got lots of other great qualities though he's like like what he's like i'm an honest guy i never
lie to you he's like if i say i'm gonna be somewhere i'll be there i'll never be late
he's like going through all these like normal everyday things my word is my bond i'm punctual i take the clothes of my victims to goodwill
i don't even write them off i've killed a hundred people but always on time yeah exactly yeah it was
uh have you ever have you seen mind hunter on netflix because if you haven't seen that you're
missing a wonderful show you will absolutely fucking love it. It's the true story of
these, they might be FBI
investigators who
they basically
invent the science of
profiling.
And to do so, they go,
they want to interview
convicted serial killers who are in the
system already and take from
them some sort of, not like, why did did you do this why did you do it like that do you think that this had something to
do with it how did you get away from the police like what were your methods and they use that
information to try to catch other killers and it's really well done and they interviewed this one guy
uh this this serial killer um big big guy and he's an actual serial, this serial killer, big, big guy.
And he's an actual serial killer.
This is all based on real people and real circumstances.
And you can go on YouTube and you can watch this real serial killer
actually be interviewed, like the real deal killer in prison.
And then you can go watch Mindhunter,
and you can see the actor that they found that looks just like him,
acts just like him.
They're talking about Edmund Kemper.
Edmund Kemper.
It's shocking that you know the man's name.
Yeah, because he was like 6'10",
and his little stories about killing people are like,
he never mentions a struggle.
Other serial killers would be like,
yeah, there was a struggle for a little while,
but after a bit, he shut up.
With Kemper, he's like,
well, everyone's horrified of me,
and so it was never much of a problem.
Like, I just walk over.
They just start crying.
Yeah, they just start crying
when they see me lumbering over with my ham hands.
I just pelt them in the mouth well he'd like he'd pick up
girls like who needed a ride around the college like hey where are you going i need to get to
cross town well hop in and then he'd drive him up into the woods and kill him and he was like
it's interesting like the dichotomy in serial killers that so many of them are
like below average in intelligence and then so many of them are below average in intelligence, and then so many of them are way above average in intelligence.
Yeah, they break that down in Mindhunter too,
the different types of killers.
The spree killer and the killer that plans everything out methodically,
and then another kind,
like maybe the killer who's the compulsive killer.
The three different kinds of serial killers,
and it's really interesting. They're this kind of this kind well the spree killer we'll
catch him right away and the compulsive killer he's eventually going to mess up but this third
category he is he's going to be a real problem because he's planned this for months he knows
the victims ins and outs he knows where we are as law enforcement
he's got a plan for before during and after he might have an alibi all of his like tools are
going to disappear he's never going to keep trophies like it was it was really interesting
to hear all that stuff it's a good show yeah that's interesting how even someone like the
most intelligent ones like they can't resist taking trophies and that's what gets
them in the end so often it's just like well sir everything seems to check out why do you
real quick why do you have a a oil barrel full of human teeth it's like well it's a hobby and uh
bang bang bang oh jigsaw i gotta get out of here you know yeah ed kemper had described this scenario and i'll get
it somewhat wrong but like the cops are at his house talking to him and he's standing there with
a bag in his hand with a woman's head in it how do you keep cool in that scenario right so uh
you're a big bowler yes i am yes i am i'm literally a huge bowler? Yes, I am. Yes, I am. I'm literally a huge bowler.
Get out of my home.
All right, sorry to bother you, sir.
Enjoy bowling.
Looks like your ball's a little wet.
A little oblong, too.
The odd thing about Kemper, though, is how charismatic he is in those interviews and how polite.
Well, he's one of the very smart ones.
Yeah, very smart. Yeah. He's very polite,
very well-spoken.
You would think that you're interviewing him
about his woodworking
hobby, and how he makes these amazing
hand-hewn bed frames
or something, you know,
and he easily could have
done something like that. He just was raised
by an abusive mother, and he had that horrible relationship with her where she told him that
she had he had ruined her life and she he was he was the cause of everything bad and it warped him
and twisted what was probably already a a bit of a broken vessel anyway and and so he started that's
such a common denominator with those serial killers is abuse from your mother as a child.
Hmm.
It is.
Interesting. A lot of them have that.
You know, the stiletto
killer, they call one of them.
You know,
the ice scrape massacre.
It sucks
when you assign that stuff to people, right?
Because we all just did the thing, right?
Oh, Woody's a serial killer.
But it's like, oh, fuck.
So now there's people who are presumed guilty.
Like, ah, we did it twice this show.
One, kids who were raped.
Ah, yeah, you know what?
They're probably rapists too.
Kids that were beaten.
Ah, they're probably serial killers.
It's like, ah god poor guys you know
now now they they can't do anything they need to be emotionally abused too really all different
kinds of abuse yeah i mean like even in the subsection of kids who are molested and you know
people are beaten by their parents like most of them don't become serial killers
like it would it would be a real society would
look a lot different there's like a 90 percent you know conversion rate on that a couple in my
universe and their parents had a lot of room for improvement and it's it's almost like springing
back the other way where they are just super parents where they they don't want to be anything
like that heck alcohol in my family was like, grandfather, total alcoholic. And my father
and to some extent me have bounced
back in the other direction where we just don't want
anything to do with it.
So, we can go the other way
maybe. Maybe people who were raped are sometimes
just really, really
not rapists.
I'm sure some of them
will be. Are you sure? You're sure you
want this? Yes, I'm your wife, Steven. For the love of God,
stop asking every two minutes.
Finish!
You're consenting to this.
Yes!
I need you to hold down this clicker.
If you ever release that button, a siren will sound.
That will indicate a lack of consent
on your part.
You hang on to this dead man switch.
Yeah.
Around me. Honey,
honey, quiet! I'm wearing
the saw shotgun thing to make sure
I can't rape you.
You let go of that switch, and my
head's all over the bedroom, and you're safe from rape.
Are you...
No, I won't untie your other hand.
I know you can't go to your mother's for the last time
that's a clever way for him to be a rapist
where he's like he was he was so adamant about not raping me that he wore a
a shotgun helmet and made me hold the button and I didn't want to die too
and so I let him do what he wanted.
And he's like,
Your Honor,
it clearly states consent button.
God damn it.
The garage door opener defense.
Yeah, I don't think that would fly. might i don't know i'm buying it
i don't think so yeah netflix has some good content mixed in with a few bad things has a lot of medium content in my opinion like i was just thinking a lot of ho-hum shit in my head
a lot of ho-hum shit uh but like like, did you see Room, is it 104, 108 on HBO?
It was.
What's it about?
I don't think so.
So it's about a hotel room.
And the stories were not related as far as I can tell.
Just interesting things that happened in that hotel room over the course of a few decades.
So it usually started with a couple or a person checking in having a problem and working through
it over his stay there it was terrible like bad god awful i would just struggle to make it through
an episode and then struggle again next week because the premise seemed good and the trailers
seemed good and every episode was so bad and i can't think of a netflix show that was just
worse than high school detention but i can think of a couple of hbo shows that were like that for
me so netflix is the master of the ho-hum but then again i can't think of a netflix show that matches
game of thrones the wire sopranosos. There's a couple, obviously,
HBO shows that are those.
You're going to have a hard time
with The Wire.
It's probably
the best show ever made. It's just amazing.
It's just amazing. I was talking to someone recently
about The Wire and how good it is. We were talking about
some of the episodes and the characters. It's just amazing.
It's easy to forget
that each season is completely different. While they keep the same characters, it. It's just amazing. And it's easy to forget that each season is completely different, right?
That while they keep the same characters,
it's sort of a whole different thing. The first one is
the drug trade, and then
the second one might be in that school,
and then the third one might be
politics. It's always
something different, but it's all the same.
It's all Baltimore. It's all Baltimore
crime and punishment. It's
great. I love that they show both sides of the coin too.
Yes, they do that really neat.
It's made me think that it's real Baltimore.
And I wonder, obviously it's not average Baltimore.
Not everyone in Baltimore is a nail gun killer.
But I wonder if there's many nail gun killers in Baltimore
is it exaggerated worst of Baltimore or is it real worst of Baltimore
I don't know man I'm just not going to go to Baltimore
I don't think there's a great side of Baltimore that I'm missing out
but there very well could be a part where you get killed and sealed
into an old tenement with a nail gun
just a quick aside before we wrap the
show so the baltimore aquarium it was a terrible little part of baltimore and they poured a ton
of money into it and the aquarium's there and now like tourist money pours in the aquarium is a
great success and it's cool so camden new jersey decides they're going to replicate this program. And they come up with
the, I don't know if it's the New Jersey Aquarium or the Camden Aquarium, but anyway, they're going
to make their own aquarium. At this point, I am super into fish, right? So I'm a sucker for
aquariums. We would go down to Baltimore like once a month just to see the fish. I loved it, right?
The expression I use, PETA, pain in the anatomy, loved it right uh the expression i use pita painting the anatomy
that's one of the turtles from the baltimore aquarium
it stuck with me anyway so i go to the new jersey aquarium as a guy who loves fish these stupid
goddamn fuckheads decide to use all native new jersey fish it's just one ugly brown bottom dwelling flounder
after another and and like you can't even see the fish in many cases the things you can see
aren't interesting to you. That's so perfect.
Here's the pigeon exhibit.
We don't seal it up.
They just live in the area.
They just come and go.
We have squirrels, seagulls, and an occasional raccoon.
Welcome to our zoo. You would never go.
Have you ever been to the Atlanta Aquarium?
No.
I'm pretty sure that it is a globally premier aquarium.
They have whales there.
Oh, that's cool.
It probably is, yeah.
It's huge.
I've been to other aquariums, and nothing compares to the Atlanta Aquarium.
Have you been to the Shedd Aquarium in Chicago?
I don't think so.
That's the best one I've ever been to.
Baltimore is really good.
I think my favorite might have been in Hawaii, though.
Hawaii is natural for it because they've got this great water so like their filtration system is just a pump that takes it from the ocean and they have like lots of you've probably seen it in
the movies where you walk through the tube and there's like sharks and stuff all around you i
went there that one was pretty good yeah yeah atlanta's great i want i'm
pretty sure they have sharks and whales um and just it's it's enormous like we were there for
hours just just looking at fish which i love zoos and aquariums i like because you're like keeping
animals in prison and that's sad but it's also like this is neat i don't go to the zoo uh i i
don't want to support that like i feel like that's the same as going to Sea World,
which is just pool world with poor orcas
who are intelligent beings,
probably as smart as a seven-year-old or something,
locked in a pool forever.
We went to a local North Carolina petting zoo.
We all left with fleas.
It's like, what kind of fucking zoo is this? All the the animals like there's camels and stuff just suffering
and we're leaving we're suffering and but it wasn't like like virtual fleas where you you
see them jumping off you you're like yeah we have fleas now god damn it that sucks yeah
call it a show yeah yep painkiller nearly 232