Painkiller Already - PKN #234

Episode Date: February 22, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Painkiller Dearly, episode 234. Kyle, Shifty, what happened to your neck? I don't know, man. My hair is super long. It doesn't look long, but it's down to here. It looks fabulous. If I were to brush it straight down, it's well below my nose. I always put haircuts off.
Starting point is 00:00:15 Your hair is like that. You disguise its length sometimes. Yeah, I put some putty in there. Your hair looks like it's the same height as mine and it's four times as long yeah it absolutely is like it comes out of my nose like it would completely cover it completely covers my eyes down here but uh so i was i was in a hurry this uh this morning and i was brought i was drying it kind of aggressively and i did something to my neck and i cannot turn my head without pretty pretty legit pain how far can you go to either side?
Starting point is 00:00:46 Is there one side favoring? That's pain. That's pain. That's pain. That's pain. Oh, my God. I got like this. It's like a porthole in a submarine or something.
Starting point is 00:00:59 I have a very limited range right now, and I've tried to twist it and pop it and crank it and uh put i put heat wraps on it and uh took a bunch of aspirin to sort of get the inflammation down uh i think i just gotta wait still no dice is this the worst it's ever been for you it's never been like this before i've never done this before i think i may have slept funny but honestly it was when i was drying it off i was i was in a hurry i had to get i had to get out of the house and i was just going to town, getting it dry. It was like, oh, what have I done?
Starting point is 00:01:28 What have I done? It's real bad. Who amongst us hasn't had a good neck injury from hair drying? That's normal. It's like that Seinfeld episode where he tried to move his head side to side and brush his teeth.
Starting point is 00:01:43 It's totally one of those bitch injuries that normal men shouldn't be getting. But yeah, I combed, dried my hair too aggressively, and I've hurt myself. Neck pain and soreness is one of those things that you don't understand until you've had it. Someone will be like,
Starting point is 00:02:02 oh man, that hurts. And you're like, but why? How does it hurt? What do you mean i woke up maybe like four or five months ago in my bed and like my girlfriend already left it was just me laying there and i remember sitting up i like audibly it was like ah like and it it hurts so bad like i had like a minor like if i was if i was prone to them i might have had a panic attack where i was like this this can't be real what's what's happening like i was like i couldn't move to either direction it was so sore and painful like just trying to look up and down and it's the same thing as when you have like a sore tooth like you know if you have a sore tooth like back
Starting point is 00:02:38 when you're losing your teeth as a little kid you'd like push on it and you'd be like oh that hurts i wonder if it still hurts oh it still hurts yep definitely and you'd be like, oh, that hurts. I wonder if it still hurts. Oh, it still hurts. Yep, definitely. And it's just like the mentality of like, if I do a lot of pain, I'll forget all, there's only so much pain in there and I'm releasing the pain that's available to me.
Starting point is 00:02:55 That's how pain works. And so I know, but like it makes sense for you. Like if I just, if I just deal with how terrible this is for like 15 more minutes. Oh, it was horrible. It was like a few days before I felt back to normal.
Starting point is 00:03:04 My neck was like Kyle's is for years. Like the one I did Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu a lot. Jesus. Jesus. That's just how I existed. And in Jiu-Jitsu, there's a balance, right? You can either fight your way out of submissions and learn something or tap and lose.
Starting point is 00:03:19 But sometimes it's smart to tap and just not get hurt. And finding out where that is is is tricky to do i think speaking of jiu-jitsu i i watched the ufc event uh i was incredibly disappointed now first of all the main event was canceled because sometimes as soon as i see these injuries and i'm like oh you had a five percent injury like if you're if you're a mortal combat character you got five percent of your HP knocked off, and you were like, well, I'm not going in at 95. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Kyle's neck. Some fighters will fight with a sore neck, and others will be like, I'm not risking the biscuit unless I'm 110%. Robert Whitaker had to go into emergency surgery because his bowel had, like, collapsed and was pinched between his abdominal muscles. He gets a pass.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Even though it's kind of weird that he's been the champ of that thing and he's never fought a championship fight. I was reading that online. I never noticed. Yeah, he won an interim belt. And I think he might have won it off Yoel. But Yoel didn't make weight. No, no, that's the second time. So he won the interim belt off y'all the first time and then bisping and gsp fought for like
Starting point is 00:04:30 the real belt and the gsp retired so then he fought y'all again that wasn't really a title fight because you all didn't make weight as kyle pointed out and then this would have been his like second defense you know like he won it defended it against a guy who missed weight, and I was going to defend it against this guy, but he got hurt. Then the main event became Anderson the Spider Silva versus Israel. Isn't he like 51?
Starting point is 00:04:56 He's 43. Do you know how to do this? It's like Adesanya. I think he's like South African. Adesanya Ocasio-Cortez. I literally practiced his last name so I wouldn't sound like an idiot on this show. And that was a day ago. And I think he's fighting out of Auckland, New Zealand. So he's a Kiwi, but he also has a big African continent tattooed to his chest.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, that makes sense, yeah. Yeah. They call him Stolbe. He's Nigerian. But, yeah, I don't know his history. Yeah, yeah history yeah yeah yeah well he's fighting out of Auckland it doesn't matter in any case he's supposed to be the younger faster youthful version of Anderson the spider Silva and the the thought process was my thought process was this is gonna be like when BJ Penn fought who uh who's that mexican phenom who i'm a big fan of with the
Starting point is 00:05:47 yaya rodriguez perhaps yeah yeah yeah rodriguez i i was like anderson's about to get his shit pushed in he's about to get real beating but leading up to this thing they're just so in awe of one another they're just so it's like suck his dick already they're at the pre pre-fight press conference not the way in they're at the way in and anderson starts crying crying uncontrollably to the point where he can't communicate with the guy with the microphone and his english is good enough now because it's so emotional for him he's he's got he's so invested in his last fight could be but but won't you know he's it won't he He's still going. Were they crocodile tears like PR? No!
Starting point is 00:06:26 These guys are fucking emotional about this shit. If I were to answer independently of Kyle, I'd say I can't tell across languages whether it's real or not. And Israel, the younger guy, is in awe of Anderson, and rightfully so. He's one of the greatest of all time. And I believe he was, in particular, his role model. He has styled his own fighting style a bit to be like Anderson's. That's his hero.
Starting point is 00:06:53 I get that a little. But all right, we're about to pay you motherfuckers a bunch of money to go fight in front of a few million people to beat each other's asses. So do that. Do that. That's your craft, okay? This isn't a sparringes. So do that. Do that. That's your craft, okay? This isn't a sparring match.
Starting point is 00:07:08 This is not an exhibition match. And that's what it looked like. They got out there, and it was clear to me, maybe I'm doing this wrong. I looked at a few comments, and a lot of people agreed with me. The people I was watching the fight with, they were all literally typing boo because it seemed like Israel did not want to hurt Anderson and Anderson could not hurt Israel.
Starting point is 00:07:27 That seemed to be the way the fight went. Anderson was incapable of hurting Israel because despite what Chael Sonnen said, he was slower. He was still fast. He's still one of the fastest people you've ever seen, but he's not as fast as Israel. He had good vision, right? Like there's speed and then there's anticipation. And he had the anticipation on lockdown. So the Israel guy was going
Starting point is 00:07:47 easy on him the whole time. He could have dominated. He was absolutely going easy on him. Sometimes you see fighters who are just super aggressive and it's like, God, does he hate? Did that guy slap his wife or something? Why is he beating him that way? Those are the good fights.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Those are the good fights. I did not sense a bit of hate out of israel and and like and it doesn't need to be hate but to me it's professionalism it's like we're paying you to fight and by we i mean those of us who streamed it illegally like myself and and we expect uh some aggressiveness some some killer instinct in there so when you when you're clearly able to tag this guy virtually at will, and I get it. It's Anderson Silva. He's a counter puncher. That's his deal. But notice by the third round that this guy is tiring out and when someone
Starting point is 00:08:32 gets hit and they smile, that means it hurts. When they act like it hurt, it didn't hurt. That's the way it works in the US. Is that a known rule? It is it is it is in my thumb okay yeah if they go ha ha ha you punch me three times in the face come try harder next time that means you just clocked their clock you just fuck their shit up and
Starting point is 00:08:56 anderson was taking those occasionally he'd take these three punch combos like a like a fucking mortal kombat character and you go and he'd drop his hands and it's like dude get him by the end is he like swollen like yeah yeah his right eye is all all like popeye to me is he had tremendous respect for the spider's abilities and that made him nervous and also like this is a thing like i felt like spider went in there not to lose and Silva. And if I go in there and just play defense, I just walk backwards, I just intend to counterpunch, I'm not pressing at all, it's very hard to do well against that guy. And I said he went in there not to lose.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Better yet, he went in there not to get beaten, right? He was all defense, Anderson Silva. Did he lose the fight? He did lose the fight. He lost on – two of the judges had him losing all three rounds, and one of the judges had two out of three. And there was one blind man who thought Anderson won a round. Yeah, there was one blind man who gave him – the second round was closer.
Starting point is 00:09:57 But Anderson Silva, all he did was just constantly work to avoid damage. And, yeah, Kyle, he was doing weird hand things. But no one attacks him while he does the weird hand things. He just put his hands down and clowning them from six feet away. If I throw a punch from six feet away, he sees that coming so easily I get clocked. So he was just maintaining too much distance. He was doing weird stuff. Anderson was so defensive and so not engaging in offense that it looked like they weren't trying.
Starting point is 00:10:27 But really, he was like, well, I'm not going to walk into the spider's web. Fuck that. I didn't blame Anderson for his fighting style. It was Israel who I think is shitty. I'm going to be total opposite end of that. I think Anderson fights that way. Anderson is known to fight that way. Anderson used to get booed for fighting that way.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Fuck that guy. That's a known quantity that Anderson is kind of a boring fighter in a lot of ways. And the way that you beat him is you carefully engage or try to make him engage and you get to be the counter puncher.
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's very difficult to walk into the spider's web and win. And what I'm hearing from you is why didn't Izzy do that? Why didn't Izzy just charge the guy like he wanted him to?
Starting point is 00:11:02 It's not Anderson of 2001. This is 43 year old Anderson Silva who looked very beautiful. It's not Anderson of 2001. This is 43-year-old Anderson Silva who looked very beautiful. That was about 18 years ago. He looked fucking slow. He looked slow in comparison to... How old was 43-year-old Anderson 18 years ago? That math can't be done, but it
Starting point is 00:11:18 was a while ago. There's no way to calculate that, but I assume he was pretty young. This is not the old Anderson. This is not the guy who will make you pay if you step into the spider's web. It's like, get in there and kill him. Get in there and kill him. He's fucked.
Starting point is 00:11:34 He's hurt. He's dizzy. There was a couple times where he'd eat a right hook, and he would stumble a little. And it's like, okay, now get him. Now get him. Fucking clinch and fucking throw elbows. Fucking clinch and trip him. Do something.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Do something. I feel like if I walk backwards and just defend and don't engage the whole time, I don't get to blame you for not charging in fist first. You do if I'm 14 years younger than you in the fight game. I mean, I hear what you're saying but to me izzy pressed the action all fight long and the argument about the part where anderson was like standing anderson was against the wall beaten up and he was going no come here come here and fight me come here and fight he's pointing at the ground like come get me come get me and and israel is
Starting point is 00:12:20 like no so yeah anderson says i want to fight with my back to the cage. Izzy says, no, I want to fight right here, center ring. And he points to the ground too. And you're like, oh, Anderson's point has priority over Izzy's point because reasons. I know who one of the fighters that I enjoy fighting. I know what one of the fighters that I enjoy fighting would have done. Max Holloway would have been, okay, I'll be right there. It'll take me one-tenth of a second, and I'll start pounding on your head
Starting point is 00:12:50 even though you're 30 pounds heavier than me, bro. I don't give a fuck. Conor McGregor would have done the same. Tony Ferguson would have done the same. You want to walk into the spider's web and do that off carefully. Izzy says, I'm too smart. He's the best there's ever been against the cage back fighting stuff. He's like, I'm not going to go in there.
Starting point is 00:13:07 I made him come to me. And yeah. I mean, fuck them all. I thought that was against the rules in UFC to try and goad people, like just staying back to the cage the whole time. Isn't that? You can do what you want in that regard. Yeah, I don't even know what the rule is for lack of engagement.
Starting point is 00:13:23 The ref will be like, come on, let's stay busy, guys. He'll tell him to fight. He'll break you up if you're just clenched up and not working. If there's a guy with a knife in the cage. What happens if you don't fight? And there's a guy in the middle, and they both refuse. It seems like the guy on the cage is going to get the axe more quickly, where it's like, oh, you were just trying to goad him in there.
Starting point is 00:13:40 At least he was willing to fight in the open arena. Yeah, I don't know. I'm with taylor watching that after watching that i'm i was so unimpressed with uh with the young with israel's performance and and i don't i don't want to see either of them fight again like i'm not interested in either of their next fights interesting i want to see izzy fight kelvin although i i'm looking out there in the crowd and i see kevin gaston wearing henry sahuda's belt is that where it came from yeah he's out there wearing henry sahuda's belt like uh you know robert had to go to emergency surgery so that makes me the champion it's high school resting
Starting point is 00:14:14 rules he's out there holding the fucking belt it's like get out of here he's clearly like like flashing it like like you know you take your watch you annoy somebody he's like glaring the camera with it as much as he can. That's funny. I see Matt Damon and fucking the guy that plays Thor out there in the crowd. I was more interested in... No. Hemsworth.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I'm looking at Hemsworth out there more interested in him than I am the fight that's going on on the screen. I'm like, oh look, it's Thor. At this point, I think he could beat Anderson up. let's get him in there my money's on anderson i uh the it's funny so if chael sunnan had worn a fake belt around he'd be an absolute legend the people's champion right he'd make up a new belt conor mcgregor's got the money belt and that eddie alvarez has like the most violent man in the UFC title.
Starting point is 00:15:05 I like good marketing. I'm down. Kelvin puts on a fake belt, and it's like, ah, you fat fuck. You've got dad bod. You can't do that. You're not charismatic enough. He's out there with a fake belt and staph infection all over his mouth.
Starting point is 00:15:19 That takes away from his appeal to me. Yeah, he's got staph infection. It's white and crusty. Or ringworm. It's white and crusty, and it's yucky. yucky now he has a beard so it's a little bit obfuscated it is yeah connor was making fun of him he was like sterilize that belt immediately and get it off that man yeah oh come take it off me which was a pretty good answer right because kelvin's 185 and mcgregor's 155 yeah yes i don't think it is a good answer the real answer would be like i didn't make the belt dirty i don't have staff no you do have
Starting point is 00:15:50 staff and someone should clean the belt come take it off me is a way better answer if that were when a fighter says that yeah well i would sterilize i wish him or sahudo had had like like replied to the chain of tweets and be like but but seriously though uh yeah wash that up before you get it back to me you know what i've got a uv chamber put it in there yourself and i'll take it out you could get some bleach and i'm already gonna damage that belt but um yeah i thought come take it off me was a good answer for a fighter to a fighter yeah i i've sometimes they start arguing and their grammar's bad and and they look like dummies so it was a decent little exchange between the two of them i guess but but yeah i did not enjoy the card i thought it was a shit card uh and you know if they're in australia that's why they get robert whittaker
Starting point is 00:16:33 fighting i believe he's australian and then israel is from new zealand and obviously that's just you know australia's bitch over there i've got i've got a kiwi friend i like making fun of him for that it's not true at all so it was like the the general takeaway from it that the fans were disappointed like i don't know i was disappointed i won't speak for anybody else i was disappointed in the fight i didn't feel like it was violent enough for my for my taste it's the main event you know on israel's nationality so he's born in niger in Nigeria, but Wikipedia has him listed as New Zealand, common Nigerian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So he's Nigerian, but he's fighting out of New Zealand. Exactly. Yeah, he's funny. He was like, I want to go visit Nigeria. I just feel the call. I want to go back.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But you know what? There's an election coming up and I know my people. It's not safe. I got a schedule around that. He's like, that's just how it is. So you don't want to be there while they're voting.
Starting point is 00:17:27 And I'm like, oh, fuck. Okay, welcome to Nigeria. I'm glad that I did not pay for that card that someone sent me a link and I streamed it. I pay for the ones that I think are good cards. Who was the big event supposed to be for this? It was the fight I mentioned where the guy got the collapsed bowel,
Starting point is 00:17:47 like the crazy hernia that required surgery. It was that fight. That was supposed to be the main event. And that would have been a good fight. You know, I'd have watched that. Politics. I know, not the best topic. But have you guys followed this Omar chick?
Starting point is 00:18:03 I can't pronounce her name. Ilan Omar? I saw a lot of people were mad pronounce her name. Ilan Omar. I saw a lot of people were mad at her. They're very mad. All right, so she's Muslim, right? And by that, I mean not like fake Muslim. Like she's actually a Muslim person. Yeah, she's Somalian.
Starting point is 00:18:17 And she's a House of Representative, the federal one, not some like state politician you never heard of. And she's made a couple of tweets implying that maybe, just maybe, and I'm trying not to be biased, but I am, that Israel and the people who support Israel
Starting point is 00:18:36 donate money to politicians and that helps them get favorable treatment. Perhaps, right? Perhaps people like AIPAC, I think I pronounced that right, but it's spelled funny. They donate money to politicians and that makes them likely to support pro-Israeli causes. And maybe Israeli does some mean things to their neighbors that we overlook because we're so pro, almost blindly pro-Israel.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So I added a lot of, like, I don't know, extra to her tweets. I didn't actually say all that. But I think that's what's in her head that like hey you know what let's just look at israel through a clear set a clear lens instead of our you know through the lens that our lobbyists tell us to look through and uh they're coming at her with the anti-Semitic thing, which is unfair in my opinion. From all sides. Oh, yeah. Democrats, Republicans, Pelosi's after her.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Silver bullet. She has no friends. And they're calling her anti-Semitic, which actually, while I don't think she did anything anti-Semitic, I do suspect that perhaps it could be a thing. She's Muslim. She's used the K word before. Okay. It took me a second. I'm like. She's used the K word before. Okay. It took me a second.
Starting point is 00:19:46 I'm like, clucks? Yeah. So she may be that in her heart, but her tweets to me were just tamed and cleaned up. Her tweets in my heart Maybe
Starting point is 00:20:01 Israel over here. Imagine a white guy doing the same thing about some sort of black subject. I just think that, you know, they're 50% of the population, and they're doing 50% of the crime, and it seems like, on average, their IQs are lower.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Way to goddammit! I think they got an extra tendon in some fast twitch muscle that story like it was it seemed weird to me because like like the response was weird because like to me it just seemed like you could say that about any lobbying organization right you could say do you think the tobacco lobby is paying for fun no it's because they're trying to influence policy every single lobby organization you're clearly being a tobaccus. You're an anti-tobaccaite.
Starting point is 00:20:48 It was just so weird. When you talk about a lobby group, of course they're lobbying for their special interests. That's why lobbyists are called special interest groups. They're lobbying for a special interest with money that they donate to candidates. I don't know that that's the point of contention. I think the point of contention is
Starting point is 00:21:03 that their lobbying might be influencing politicians to not act with a clear head. But all lobbyists do that. Like they're all trying to influence politicians. And so it seemed weird to me when they're like, you can say the tobacco lobby does this. The NRA does this. This lobby does this. And then she points one out and people are like, not that one. Not that one, though.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And it's like, wait, no. The whole purpose of lobbying organizations is to influence politics what's i asked not i asked i heard someone ask joe biden what one of his big regrets was and he said way way like i'm gonna make it up 25 years ago when he was a young senator he accused a peer of his in acting in a way that was motivated poorly and he's like you never do that never assume somebody's intent always assume they're working for the best that's an unwritten rule in politics and i thought damn i hate that rule i wish people always attacked he said that mitt romney wanted to put y'all back in chains put y'all back in chain that actually might have been about when he said it so it could have been before
Starting point is 00:22:05 that when you think mitram you don't think that i think he might want to hook you up with an extra wife mormons but he's not gonna put y'all back in james kids one life is plenty he wants you to have 11 kids on a homestead somewhere that's what mitram he wants yeah and praise be to joseph smith yeah he's all about that goes without saying i yeah i didn't understand the big hullabaloo about it it's like like like i i don't know all her her takes i probably just agree with her on most things but like all lobbyist groups try to influence politics that's what they do i've been watching this thing on netflix about the massad which is the israeli special like basically the israeli cia okay and when you see some of the
Starting point is 00:22:44 things that have happened to Israel since they became a country in the 70s or whatever the fuck, the 60s, whatever, you start getting on their side, man. It's been rough. It's been rough. They're talking about the Munich Olympics, right? Are you familiar with what happened at the Munich Olympics?
Starting point is 00:23:01 At a high level. I'd love a refresh. So this group called Black September, this terror organization that was financed by Hamas and the Palestinians, go to Munich, Germany. They break into where the Israeli athletes are sleeping and living. The AK-47s,
Starting point is 00:23:16 they kill two of them right away, take 20 more hostage, and they're in Germany. They're in Germany, right? The Germans almost seem to be not wanting to get a good outcome here. And there's a Mossad agent there. He's like, they're like, could you tell us what happened in Munich? And he like almost cries immediately when they ask him.
Starting point is 00:23:35 He's like, I was there. I asked to help. They will not take my help. I asked to get aboard the helicopter. They will not let me aboard the helicopter. You can say what you want about Germany, but I was there. I asked to get aboard the helicopter. They will not let me aboard the helicopter. You can say what you want about Germany, but I was there, and I saw the new Germany.
Starting point is 00:23:55 And he's like, so basically what happens, they decide, these terrorists decide, they're like, hey, we're taking all 20 of these Olympic athletes from Israel back to Saudi Arabia or Jordan or jordan or whatever is you know muslim country they wanted to go to we're going to the airport right now don't fuck with us and they do they they're dragging these israeli athletes down the street tied up they get them all the way to the airport they start loading them into a plane i've never heard about this there's a great movie about it called mun. If you want to see a really hardcore movie about what the Israelis did afterwards.
Starting point is 00:24:27 The Germans decide, let's just start shooting at them now with no scopes on their rifles and old school guns. They're hitting Israelis, they're hitting terrorists, and then they throw a phosphorus grenade and they burn everybody alive
Starting point is 00:24:42 and everybody dies. Not one athlete makes it, not one athlete makes it not one terrorist makes it i remember it okay and are they in the middle of the road like walking down are they gonna bus at the time they're at the airport are they on a plane okay they're they're in a they're in a helicopter about to and and so israel they they ask the uh the prime minister of israel who's this woman whose name i can't remember, but she's a very famous Prime Minister, they're like, what are you going to do? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:10 She goes, but I wouldn't tell you if I did know what we're going to do. That's a good tactic. What they did was they sent the Mossad out hunting down terrorists, and all of a sudden, all throughout Europe, these terrorists are getting
Starting point is 00:25:25 shot blown up their beds are exploding their cars are exploding their family everybody they're all dying dozens and dozens and dozens of them and all of these like covert james bond type ways where people answer a phone and the phone's been replaced with a c4 handset watch the movie munich that's pretty and it it breaks all this down it's got a lot i like to think that the end that kyle just explained is to a musical montage it's one after another it's to the final countdown i don't know israel's had a hard fucking time like they had only been a country for like five or six years when the
Starting point is 00:26:06 Egyptians declared war on them, basically. What do they call it? The Six Days War or something like that. Six Day War. They've had a rough time. Sure, they shoot some Palestinian kids every now and then. There's some rough stuff. I think they cut off their water supply, which is a hard thing to do to a big
Starting point is 00:26:22 population. Was it Jew water? Because they shouldn't be getting that anyway. I think Jew water is the same as the other water. I'm just saying. We can all envision this. If you've got a dispute with your next door neighbor, literally your next door
Starting point is 00:26:38 neighbor, and their water supply flows through your property, and you have the rights to it. The sound effect is convincing I'm on your side now. Yes, and that's the way it's been forever, right? Anyway, water's the new... Yeah, Taylor has a good... I bet that water flowed like that for...
Starting point is 00:26:57 I don't even know, 15 million years? I mean, I used to be way more just like all one all just pro israel on that but then like the more you see like what the palestinian people are going through and you're like you look into it more it's like yeah there's a lot of shitty people it's okay to win it's okay to win taylor just because they have rocks and and we and we have tavor's doesn't mean that they don't need a good shoot is it a slings a slingshot? Because I bet it's not. The Tavor is an assault rifle made by the Israelis. The Israeli IMI?
Starting point is 00:27:31 Israeli Munitions? I don't know. A quick aside. Assault rifle is a real thing, right? But it means fully auto, like military weapon. Yeah, I think so. It depends who's writing the definition. I assume when Kyle says it, it's accurate.
Starting point is 00:27:41 It's the TAR-21 from Modern Warfare 2, if that helps. Ah, okay, gun. Yeah. It's the TAR-21 from Modern Warfare 2, if that helps. Ah, okay gun. Yeah. Based on my COD experience. Yeah. It's a nice gun. They make a lot of cool guns in Israel. They make the Desert Eagle, of course. Although it's moved around from manufacturer to manufacturer at this point. But in any case...
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, they're really good at making guns. I wonder why. In any case, watch the Mossad show on Netflix. Pretty good if you like seeing these old fogies getting interviewed about the shit they did. why in any case watch the uh the massad show on netflix pretty good if you like seeing like these old fogies getting interviewed about the shit they did like like they interviewed the guy who went to brazil i think it was maybe argentina and he got uh adolf eichmann uh who was one of the nazis who killed a ton of jews like he's like he's like i just walked up to him and he speaks
Starting point is 00:28:21 in spanish like whatever he said like good day mr eichmann and he froze and i put him in a stranglehold and took him down and like and they put him in a plane and took him all the way back to israel put put him up on like war crimes and hung his ass what's the tv show you told us to watch i actually took notes in my computer reboots because ah let's see what was it about you told me that it was amazing and it wasn't the bodyguard and it was like the best you had seen in quite some time the bodyguard was pretty about you told me that it was amazing and it wasn't the bodyguard and it was like the best you had seen in quite some time the bodyguard was pretty good you know it's got the guy who plays um the main stark boy who doesn't make it uh at the red wedding rob stark it's got him in it but it wasn't the bodyguard you were was it a fiction show or a non-fiction show i think it
Starting point is 00:29:02 was a fiction show shit k Kyle was super high on it. I think he said it was one of the best things he'd ever seen ever. Shit. A Netflix show? Yeah. I'm just trying to help narrow it down. It was on Netflix. Maybe I can go to my Netflix watch list.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It's not clicking for me. I don't know. I was watching Logan's Run on Netflix last night. I'd never seen that, and that movie is fucking weird. I haven't finished it yet. It's not a Wolverine movie? It's not a Wolverine movie. It's from 76.
Starting point is 00:29:33 Yeah, it's a fucking dystopian feature film movie. I don't know. I watched Damnation a while back. I watched the Ted Bundy tapes. I watched Inside the Massad, and then that's about it that I've watched recently. Is the Ted Bundy thing good? I've heard good things, but I never believe when I hear good things now, because I know Netflix astroturfs the shit out of their stuff.
Starting point is 00:29:52 Yeah, it's legitimately good. Netflix grades their show on a scale of like 88 to 100. How shitty must you feel if you're Amy Schumer and you have to know every time you log onto Netflix, like, wow, they changed the entire rating system because people hated my special so much they that's literally why they did it it is like they pushed the leather special and everybody was like oh this isn't funny and they're
Starting point is 00:30:16 like actually we're not doing uh positive and negative now we're just giving you an arbitrary percentage to try and fool you into watching things that need a little to need to pump the numbers how much we think you'll like it and i yeah i mean it seems almost random those numbers to me i don't get it yeah every stand-up comedy special on there is like you 99 you'll love this and i'm like i can tell you right now i'm not gonna like this like there's no oh there was something that came out where like netflix paid nothing in taxes again this year. Are they profitable? Yeah, they posted record profits.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'll have to see if it was record profits. It was like 800 million. It was much better than last year. And they're exploiting some loopholes. There was the one show I watched that was in the Netherlands or something like that. It was in a Nordic country and it's got the wasps that... I think that might have been the one I'm thinking of. That's just good, in my something like that it was like in a nordic country and it's got the the wasps that uh i
Starting point is 00:31:05 think that might have been the one i'm thinking of that's not that's just good in my opinion it can be a little slow it can be a little slow for sure and there's a couple seasons of it it takes a while for you to like get the full grasp of things it's got good acting and interesting characters but i wouldn't say it's one of the best things i've seen in a while it's just good and worth a watch in my opinion um and that movie that that show is called um let's see parasitic wasp oh that was the one where the wasps inhabit your body and control you like like those zombie bugs right yeah essentially so yeah i'm super curious about this sometimes when a company pays no taxes the population doesn't understand.
Starting point is 00:31:47 If Chevy loses a billion dollars this year, and then next year they make three quarters of a billion, they have a lost carry forward that prevents them from having to pay any taxes. I thought I was going to see that in Netflix, but I didn't. I actually don't know why they didn't pay any taxes. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Isn't that so fucked though? That companies like that can I mean I'm sure maybe it's legal or whatever But it's like whatever they do to make that legal That's not Lost carry forwards I kind of get You know like Oh but maybe I misunderstood
Starting point is 00:32:17 Is Netflix doing that or Not on the first article I found I don't know why they were able to avoid all taxes So it is fucked based on what we know so far. But lost carry forwards, I do get. It almost seems unfair not to have them. If you make $100,000 this year and then fully pay on all those taxes,
Starting point is 00:32:34 then you lose $100,000 next year. You're like, fuck, do I get a refund on the opposite of income? You don't know. So you get to carry that forward and apply it on the future, and it kind of makes sense. That does, yeah. Yeah, because otherwise, I don't know so you get to carry that forward and apply it on the future and and it kind of makes sense um that does yeah yeah because otherwise like i don't know you get a credit for making negative you're doing your best here but netflix i can't explain yet i'm searching around
Starting point is 00:32:55 i was logging in the other night and they're upping our price to 12.99 now did you see that i already paid that say 4k yeah we're probably going up from there but i do too i have four lines in 4k because uh yeah that that show's called fortitude and it's just okay but i think it's worth the watch it's got dennis quaid in it um vikings is is very good if you ask me it's it's it's funny it's the history champ no no that's norseman there's there's several viking related shows okay there's the the last kingdom where it's got utrip that's the best one of bebenberg i that's debatable it the first season is very good but the third season i thought was kind of kind of eh is that norseman you think nice norseman is the comedy uh the last kingdom is the netflix original that's that's quite well done and it's it's kind
Starting point is 00:33:45 of like game of thrones b league and you haven't watched season three of that one yet it's it's just okay and vikings is a history channel original but forget about don't let that don't let that taint it this isn't like american pickers or some sort of garbage that they normally churn out this is an actually really good show where they tell the story of the fictionalized story of some famous Vikings, Ragnar Lothbrok and Rolo, and these are actual Viking figures from history,
Starting point is 00:34:17 and they really get colorful with their stories, and they combine events, and they make it very interesting. It's very violent. It's a long story. I think there's five or six seasons i i've watched all of it now vikings is good like give it a watch give it one episode and and and and see what you think i've watched at least two or three seasons of it i liked it a lot yeah there's there's um once you get a little bit you start off with this guy ragnarar Lothbrok, who's like, he's the first Viking to be like, look, we've been sailing east forever.
Starting point is 00:34:50 We've pillaged them till they don't have shit. Like they go and pillage and they're like, what do we get? And it's like a potato and some yarn. It's like, this is pathetic. They're not even giving them enough time to like rebuild and reacquire resources. They just show back up and it's like well we still don't have much since last time frankly you pillaged us good
Starting point is 00:35:10 they've been pillaging to the west which is kind of like Slavic territory forever and there's nothing left and this Ragnar guy is like look I've heard tell that if we go east there is a bountiful land west yeah of course if we go west there's a bountiful land. West, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:25 If we go west, there's a bountiful land, which means England and Ireland and Scotland. Let's go there. And they're like, how would we even navigate it? And he's like, ah, I've got this little round thing you put in a pool of water with a peg on top. And okay, no, we're not financing this journey. So he has his own boat built,
Starting point is 00:35:46 and he gathers up like 20 men and they go and they find a monastery first thing when they get to england and of course monasteries are full of gold and slate and and monks to enslave and he goes and he enslaves the monks he takes all the gold and he shows back a couple weeks later he's like look i left with 20 men in a canoe i built and i've got all of this gold that i can i can't even carry and the king's like man i'll let you all keep one thing like what you we financed this ourselves you wouldn't even let us go we had to forbade you forbade us to go you'll let us keep one thing well i'll keep'll keep this monk. He's mine. And everybody laughs at him because he keeps the monk
Starting point is 00:36:26 instead of a big chunk of gold. But the monk's just telling him everything there is to know about England. Everything there is to know about, he's like, well, if you go on Sunday, everybody's in church. And you can't take your weapons into the church. Everybody's just in this one building
Starting point is 00:36:39 and all the swords are outside. And he's like, interesting, interesting. Are there any other holidays? Yeah, so many. We're Catholic. So many. And he's like, interesting, interesting. Are there any other holidays? Yeah, so many. We're Catholic. So many. Like every other week, we just like throw everything aside.
Starting point is 00:36:51 And get this, they're all drunk the whole time. Couldn't be easier. Exactly. So he goes back with this knowledge and the knowledge of the geography and where the towns are and just pillages the fuck out of England
Starting point is 00:37:02 for like years and years. And occasionally, they'll raise up a great army, right? It's not just him and his 20 men. He'll convince an entire multiple communities, multiple kingdoms to all band together and go do a thing. And they'll have these big Game of Thrones style battles that are really impressive. And later in the show, he has children. He has like five sons. He doesn't have one daughter.
Starting point is 00:37:27 It's like five sons, and each is more scary and badass than the last. But there's one of them who's crippled. They call him... Crippled Sven. No, it's like... There is one called Sven, I think. Axel the Crippled. It's like
Starting point is 00:37:43 Avar or something. Anyway, they all have a name, and like a descriptive part of their name, you know like, Olo the Brave or Pee the Strong, this guy is Ivar the Boneless because his legs are all deformed and crippled and twisted so he has to move around with
Starting point is 00:38:01 a spike in each hand and crawl on the ground but he is the scariest out of all of the sons of Ragnar. He is the one that everyone is terrified of. He is ruthless and just insane. And he goes to war like that. He straps himself into this chariot and he just goes right into the thick of battle, just slaying people and just screaming in their face, kill me if you can.
Starting point is 00:38:26 He's super scary. It's a good show. Like I said, there's five, six, seven seasons of it now. It's gone on for a while, and it's still pretty fucking good. Lots of good battles. They go to France. I think I've seen some of the early seasons, maybe just the first.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Yeah. They're pretty far behind. Yeah, they're always looking for new territories to raid and pillage, like where they're going to go to an arab country or go to france with the viking things yeah if i'm doing viking you know what if i were to do a new civ maybe i'd do it all with like more ancient civilizations you could play as different barbarians and vikings and shit like that you can play as the vik of 5. Oh. They had to exist. My idea is bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:12 But yeah, it's a good show. I can't think of the one that we were discussing last week that I thought was really, really good. You mentioned American Pickers. You've watched that show, Kyle? By your reaction, what do you can? It is somehow even more skeevy than pawn stars in like the way they talk to the camera outside of it they'll be like that skinny douchebag
Starting point is 00:39:33 will be like all right we're going to this farmer we know he's having financial troubles because the crop didn't come in well it's rumored he has a lot of stuff in his basement a bit of a hoarder we're gonna go see what we can get and then it'll like snap to this guy he's clearly in a rough time in his life and he's got like an old gas pumping thing from like 1948 you know he's like wow this would so many people love these this would be great he's like yep my grandpa gave that to me and his father owned the gas station before it and it's it's really one of my favorite things that i don't know how i could part with it but this is seven dollars and fifty cents taylor and they'll ask him like what do you think you can get for it he's like well i mean low would be six seven grand like this is a collector's item right here and it's still functional actually and then he'll be
Starting point is 00:40:18 like talking to the camera again like he said six or seven grand we all know what's gonna happen then he goes he's like i'll give you four hundred dollars it's like well i can't give god damn you go can you go up to two thousand he's like four ten well i mean my and i'll throw in this clicky ballpoint pen not going to cover it, and I'm struggling. My wife's so sick. You saw her on the way down sitting up there in the bedroom up there, that chemo medication. I can hardly afford it. Yeah, I guess 410, okay.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And it's just like, you exploitative piece of shit. And then that guy will interview him and be like, we had a lot of expectations when we came here. None of us expected to get this piece for $410. I can take this back to my shop, a little bit of buffing, sell it for a cool nine. And it's like, you're a piece of shit. Like, you're a genuine piece of shit. You're not even, like, making this money.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Discovery Channel's doing this for you. But if it's any consolation, according to me, and I don't know anywhere else, it's fake as fuck. Oh, yeah, so fake oh i'm pretty sure they planted that gas station down there i'm pretty like it's all so goddamn fake like it makes me nothing's faker than storage wars yes like what could be in here and they lift it up and then it shows like the four mongoloid groups go oh it's a commercial and you learn about heart medication like they buy these storage units but they're not allowed to walk inside so they just peer around and kind of guess at what could that's a real thing that happens but you can't but it's so rare there's
Starting point is 00:41:54 like a chest in the corner filled with like yeah i've done it before filled with jewels yeah really it'd be like who wants nine decomposing cats i've seen those things go down before i i have a couple storage units with like random junk in it i got a whole gym and one and i've been there and they're like yeah we're auctioning off a a unit that hasn't been uh hasn't been paid up i'm like ah okay and i go down there there's nothing in there there was a bunch of boxes it was like it was like goodwill shit it was a bunch of clothes it there's a reason people normally abandon that shit yeah it's worth less than the rent yeah yeah it's worthless essentially yeah they don't have like 6 000 copies of dewey beats truman newspapers no no no there's no there's no like walt whitman
Starting point is 00:42:38 signed novels there's no there's none of that there's no no Abraham Lincoln memoirs. That's bullshit. That's a super rarity. And maybe it happens once, but you can't make a whole TV series about it where you've got to have a new thing every week. It doesn't work. You know what? I looked into the Netflix thing. It looks like they were able to – they found some way to flexibly determine where their income was and all the losses are in America and all the profits are outside the country where the tax rate is lower. And that's how they avoid U.S. taxes.
Starting point is 00:43:17 They actually paid millions and millions of overseas taxes, but they got a refund here. Oh, good. Yes. Oh, good. That's not parasitic at all. The Trump tax changes that I think started 2019 kind of help with that a little bit. Like, so what it was is us taxes were higher in a weird way,
Starting point is 00:43:32 not necessarily higher, but you could argue they were higher. And now companies are less incentivized to pretend they were Icelandic profits instead of American profits because our tax rate's lower. Yeah. That's so skeevy. Yeah. No, it's good because now they pay their taxes here
Starting point is 00:43:50 even if it's a lesser amount. Well, they didn't pay their taxes here. Well, Netflix didn't, but what I'm reading about is 2018. So these are changes that, you know, might take a little while for them to incorporate. Hopefully they'll pay them here. I hope so, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And then along with those, like having a center of business somewhere, could be jobs here too, right? They might take their Icelandic accountants and hire them in Colorado instead or something. They're building that steel mill in Birmingham, and the owners literally came out and said- Wow, Netflix really branching out.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Yeah, yeah. All right, we're going to make 60 terrible comedy specials that nobody wants and then get this steel mill montgomery alabama they're like steve you gotta stop doing coke we're taking a wire wheel to the rust belt go netflix the petroleum plant my bit my i take full credit especially not in north dakota where it it turns out there's already a lot of those. Is that real? I've heard it. I've heard Trump claim it
Starting point is 00:44:51 and then I've heard people say it wasn't real. Yeah, I heard CNN and Fox News talking about it. It's an expansion of an existing one. Maybe I heard. Yeah, it's a big work project that's obviously making jobs
Starting point is 00:45:01 for the construction and then jobs for the thereafter. And the owners of it, they're like, yeah, this is Trump's America. This is because of his aggressive economic maneuvering. It could be the tariffs, though. He has these big steel tariffs. It is the tariffs.
Starting point is 00:45:16 So, yeah, one of the things people don't know, one of Trump's tariff strategies was to make, I guess I'd just say voters not notice him so much because he's terrifying things that go they're like ingredients to products not products so it's not that cars get more expensive but aluminum does and uh the companies take the hit and not necessarily like all the voters released it first and that's wings that's kind of a uh how china is a lot of manufacturing little like create a lot of manufacturing. They'll create a lot of raw parts over there,
Starting point is 00:45:47 then ship them here, and then assembly here. And then now, even that is getting moved to China. Or, I'm sorry, not China, Mexico. So many of our car companies are manufactured in Mexico. That Apex game is continuing to become the most popular game in the world. Not the Fortnite people, by the way. I don't know if you saw a lot of people change it which means that my mocap friend wasn't involved also like i was wrong by pro so they uh so wings downloaded it uh because you know people were pestering him and uh he deleted it i was like if it's wing shouldn't
Starting point is 00:46:21 he wait till like 2023 to hop on this game? He's just shitting on the most popular game in the world continuously as he plays it. This is bullshit. I hate the art style. This is bad. This is bad. He should be playing Fallout 4 right now. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I've only seen Twitter clips of Apex, but I like the color scheme. We talked about the loot. The loot is really good. It's like a pretty much carbon copy of Borderlands or Borderlands 2. Easy to find. Kind of. Like the way the guns load out and upgrade and stuff.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It's a really fun game. We do so well in it. If I've got the two guys that I want to play with, the two best guys that I play with, we went all fucking Socrates and impulse kind of it's class it's one of the guys from our hangout the guy who lives in uh well he doesn't anymore but he lived in his garage for a while his parents garage spider pig yeah spider pig's very good at apex just very very good okay
Starting point is 00:47:21 yeah yeah we have a great time yeah he's a nice guy so is like is there a mass exodus of fortnite right over to that game now it i'm sure that other games are bleeding players over it's probably a lot of games i'm sure fortnite is losing players i know that uh battlefield was just about to release their or they are just about to release their battle royale mode um sort of it was delayed from the main release but but people are predicting that this is basically going to kill that uh because it's free to play people are hating on battlefield free to play is a good point and then i guess battlefield it's funny i don't even play these games but i follow them for some reason but it
Starting point is 00:47:59 seems like it's had even less innovation than cod over the past two or three versions and people are angry at it yeah it's never been my thing I always feel like the kills are kind of pointless and that there's so many people playing it's like 25 versus 25 or something and it's like if you kill five people it means literally nothing because people get revived so quickly
Starting point is 00:48:19 and or they just respond so quickly on squad that it's just I don't know I don't get the sense of reward or fulfillment that i do maybe in cold dude blackout when you kill somebody it's like all right their squad's down a man in in apex even apex is a great feature where one of the things that's scary in battle royale is if you die five minutes into the game because you played too aggressively well now you gotta sit and watch your squad play for half an hour in this if you die your teammates can run up in an amount of time and grab like your card or whatever and run it over to a respawn station and get you right
Starting point is 00:48:52 back into the game if they if they end up winning that engagement like if if three of you face off with three of them and one of your guys survives he can grab your cards get you both back in it's smart too just guessing yeah i know playing it but it's like an anti-hiding method too right like because it promotes aggressive yeah if two four v four teams go and then you know it ends up team wins and they have two players instead of four left it's like ah darn it you know we've won but now we're screwed for the rest of the night yeah you won the battle lost the war uh this is this is this is good uh i think it promotes aggressive play we play more aggressively because of it it's like yeah let's let's get in there get this win this win this battle and then if if one or two of us die we'll just how bad do you respond are you coming back
Starting point is 00:49:37 in the game naked and afraid naked but like there's a big pile of bodies where you just won that battle right over there so you just run right over that pile of bodies and you get your kit back plus kit off of the other guys. You're fine. You're fine within 60 seconds. If you can stay alive. I imagine.
Starting point is 00:49:56 Yeah, you generally can. It's not bad. There isn't some other team with a team. When I say we win a lot of games, I mean we win three, four in a row, and then lose two, and then win two more in a row. It's easier to win than PUBG. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Because it's free to play, I think, is part of it. It's also new. And I think you've got a lot of real, real bad players. Sometimes I get in a gunfight, and I'm like, this guy can't even hit me. He doesn't know how to strafe. He doesn't know what he's doing. He doesn't know what his gun does, maybe. It's a combination of a few things.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Like, we're good at the game, and a lot of times we run into people who are awful at the game. Yeah. I remember a cod every year at Christmas we'd be excited. Sure, yeah. You've been practicing this thing for a month and a half, and they don't know anything. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:42 It's a good game. They did a really good job. It's fun. You've got character-specific abilities. Like, this character does this this character does that each squad it squads of three players and you can't have duplicate characters so you've got one character who's a healer who can heal everybody you got one character maybe who's like an offensive guy who's popping smoke and dropping airstrikes and maybe you got another character who's like sneaky and like goes invisible and helps in that way can you mix and match like your classes so it's like all right we're going all for sneak no no you have to eat one of each type of character so there's like a
Starting point is 00:51:15 set archetype you have to go with sort of there's maybe six or eight characters total and you pick from those but since there's only a three-man squad you can't have duplicate characters so i i generally try to play support it depends on playing with but you know uh one guy wants to be the offensive guy once one guy wants to be the healing guy and maybe the other guy wants to be more of a support character and it's it's a really nice uh uh fit when you've got got everybody working together in that way it's a fun game it. It really is good. It's very fast-paced. You're ziplining around and flying and jetpacking, and the weapons are often, like, goofy and kind of high-tech and, like, shooting energy blades and shit.
Starting point is 00:51:55 I got a weapon question. So you only pick up the weapon if it's better than what you have, I'm told, correct? But the attachments. If you pick up an assault rifle and there's tiers of like if you've got a shotgun, there are a tier of bolts for the shotgun that help the rate of fire.
Starting point is 00:52:15 There's a color coding system that goes white, blue, purple, gold. You don't have to memorize that because if you try to pick up a purple thing like it'll be like ah you've already got a you got a gold you already got a gold one you know and there's tiers of like that for everything every item in the game whether it's like your shields or your helmet or the uh the optic that's on your gun so now i understand because that was
Starting point is 00:52:39 it makes things kind of fast-paced better you know there's a lot of eye in the beholder on the on a weapon in general right like you know is your shotgun better than my assault rifle is your you know even amongst similar weapons you know i could have less damage but a tighter spread yeah it's more like magazine sizes and stuff like you know there's multiple you start the the the magazine size you initially get is like 18 bullets or something which is barely even enough to kill a person. And then it goes up to like 30 or 35 by the time you get the good magazine. And so that, again, promotes aggressive play.
Starting point is 00:53:16 If you're at the end stage of the game when it's two or three squads left, you really want good shit because they've got good shit. It's a good game. I'm enjoying it a lot. It's a lot of fun, fast-paced. The matches take 20 minutes or something to play, so you get a lot of them in. If you lose, it's not a big deal. Fun.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I haven't been gaming. I haven't played Vermintide in like two or three weeks now, which was my primary game. I still play Left 4 Dead, but that's more about hanging out with Colin than gaming. Dude, we have a fun little dynamic in left for dead one colin's not bad but he's not that good either and then my entire purpose is just to serve as his bodyguard i watch him the whole time i shoot
Starting point is 00:53:57 zombies that are fussing at him you know if the jockey hops on his back i'm johnny on the spot like i i just work to get, to make him succeed all game long. And it's, I enjoy that. It's fun. Yeah. I,
Starting point is 00:54:11 I, I'm playing a bunch of games or still getting into rust occasionally. And, uh, it's, it, the thing about rust is you've got to be like, like you can't play it a little bit.
Starting point is 00:54:20 You got to really be just grinding on it for, are you fading with interest in rust or it's not fading an interest it's that to play it i know how much time it requires so i'm just taking a break from it more like like i want to play rust like when i watch youtube videos i'm still watching like rust youtube videos it was the best game you ever played three weeks ago oh it definitely is it still is it's the best game i've ever played 100 it's just that like for me to play it at the level that i want to play it and not just sort of dabble in rust which is silly i can't be playing anything
Starting point is 00:54:50 else you gotta go to a good pay-to-win server you know what kyle oh that's so awful i hate it doesn't even have to be a lot like for three dollars i'll give you sulfur no that's awful no that's that ruins the whole experience. Not for me. Not for me. It's because I'm the server owner. That's why, Kyle. I wouldn't want to do that. I'll probably play some more Rust Next Wipe Cycle or something like that
Starting point is 00:55:18 in a couple weeks. For now, I just want to play this Apex game because it's so fast. Rinse and repeat and get it done. I played a little Total War earlier tonight. If you want to go on some Total War later, Taylor, I'm sure that Class would be interested. We had a couple good wins earlier tonight. I watched that.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Oh, you already played some. Milk and Cookies Total War guy. Yeah. I don't even get Total War, but he makes his videos. He just is an inexhaustible knowledge of what seems like a gigantic amount of lore that he just lays out. Like why these orcs are fighting these Klingons or whatever the fuck he's talking about. And who's more powerful. And I can't predict who's going to win.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Can you just run both sides on Sim? Is that what he's doing? No. No, he's going back and replaying battles and describing what's happening. Okay. And so he's like, now here, and he'll slow it down. I don't know if I've ever watched this guy, but I assume he's the same as, what was the other guy's name? Turin.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Turin, where he'll be like, all right, what he's going to try and do here is rush this light cavalry, try and take advantage of my archers up here. So you can see I moved these pikemen to form a little bit of a hedge around, and then when it slowed down, you can see i moved these pikemen to form a little bit of a hedge around and then when it slowed down you can see a lot more but that game requires so much micro and so much knowledge of what unit is coming at you because if you're like all right let me just hover over the unit coming at me oh there's three different kinds of units they all have very different statistics oh and they're breaking on my front line and i'm fucked like you need to like know ahead of time so they have like encyclopedic knowledge about all this shit which yeah i think it's kind of cool i do too if um if
Starting point is 00:56:50 like civilization 5 is like a 9 out of 10 on the difficulty of learning uh this is like a 7 or something like that it it's it's real hard yeah i might be down to play i haven't played in forever and so i'll get on and get aggravated and but I'm sure it'll come back to me pretty quick. I always forget the hotkeys in that game. I don't use a ton of hotkeys. I use the bottom bar a lot, and that's usually fast enough. Just like grouping, like real quick? Yeah, you know, I group everybody together
Starting point is 00:57:18 and turn skirmish mode off of my skirmishers so they don't run away like bitches. Oh, yeah. They introduced a new race. Oh, the pirates. Yeah, I got on there. I downloaded the pirates. I played one game with them, got butt-fucked and was like, that's enough for now.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And then I haven't logged back on. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta know what you're doing. They're not OP or anything. They're a little difficult to play. Are they one of the weak factions in your opinion? I don't think so. They're mid-tier. You just gotta figure them out. Apologies to the audience who just heard this. Can you repeat the civilization comparison opinion? I don't think so. They're mid-tier. You just gotta figure them out. Apologies to the audience who just heard this. Can you repeat the civilization comparison again? I was saying that Civ is like, on a difficulty to get
Starting point is 00:57:51 good at scale, it's a 9 out of 10 or something like that. And 10 is like learning Klingon. But Total War is probably like a 6 or a 7, something like that. It's very difficult because you've got so many races, and the way the puzzle pieces fit together or don't fit together needs to be memorized.
Starting point is 00:58:11 If you see they're coming with bestigors, you need to know which one of your empire units need to go against them. It's the long swords, by the way. No, the great swords. Yeah, it's the great swords. And if you mess up, so you can't just throw units in the battle and be like i've got way more so if they're sending like minotaurs with an axe you know and there's 12 of those running at you and you're like all right i'll just throw enough peasants at them
Starting point is 00:58:35 to slow them down it's like no it won't match up like you can't swarm as easily in this game like it'll just be five minutes of the minotaurs executing people until eventually the peasants go we are we are routed and then they run away screaming and there's a lot of quitting in total war okay no no i want you to fight to the death and just because i'm happy with getting one more hit point off him they don't do that they don't do that once they realize they're losing they bolt another thing is like uh like you could be facing the exact same army composition on the other side from the same faction, and depending on what general and what spells
Starting point is 00:59:10 they have on that general they're using, it could be totally different fighting tactics. And so if you're playing and you see the fuck is his name, the dragon ogre, Shagoth or something, the big one. It's Kolek, the sun eater.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Kolek, the sun eater. If you see that guy running at you, you're like, it's just a giant guy who's like half mammoth, half fucking giant. The sun eater, Jesus Christ. Yeah, the sun eater. And like, when he runs into your front line, like you gotta get everybody with a spear around there. And even if you have like a hundred people surrounding you with a spear, like, ah, he'll still like kill hundreds of them. around there and even if you have like a hundred people surrounding with a spear like ah he'll still like kill hundreds of them whereas if you got like a dragon guy coming at you
Starting point is 00:59:50 it's like shit i need to first of all kind of spread my guys out a little bit more because he's going to cast some strong fire magic and just decimate me but i need all my archers you know just just out of his range let me find a picture of kolek the sun eater kolek is my favorite general because he's cool as fuck you can just run him into any group even if it's a group that's pretty good against a large character he still does some damage yeah look at this guy he's just he's just out fucking rageous he's he's he's a he's a monster he's huge like this doesn't even do him justice he's not what i expected him to look like
Starting point is 01:00:25 yeah the people are like the fighters the human fighters are like up to the bottom of his like little ankle cuff there ah for people watching he's like half horsey dragon and half ram-headed dude yeah that's exactly what he is i did all right i think yeah that was pretty good i couldn't have done better but yeah he's really cool that's like the thing i like about it because when i was younger i played total war rome when i was like in middle school or maybe early high school and that was cool because it was like rome and all that but this i like so much more because of the lore and the unique uh the unique units you get and the way you can kind of play the good or the evil side like it's really multifaceted i didn't even know until after i started playing this game
Starting point is 01:01:11 that it's like oh this is the game when you walk into like magic the gathering shops there's like those giant tables of people with like painted figurines i don't know how that game is played but i always thought like that's a really cool-looking setup. Same way. It's rolling dice and shit and deciding who's going to be able to get more hits, hit points off, and assembling an army based on amount of credits or points or gold or whatever
Starting point is 01:01:37 they use to decide how many spearmen or axemen you get. Yeah, it's a fun fucking game, and it's RTS. It's fun to clickety-click, clickety-clack, and outsmart the guy and win. Well, I gotta work out first, but I might hop on that later. Saw a picture of the gym
Starting point is 01:01:53 tailor looking pretty good. Oh, thank you. Now I just need lighting, but it's all set up. You need those four-foot-long LED lights. Yep, like those shop lights? That's what I'm looking at. Yeah, they're like fluorescents, but they're not anymore.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Those are great. Yeah, that's what I'm planning on doing. Awesome. All right. PKN 234.

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