Painkiller Already - PKN #245

Episode Date: May 10, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Alright, PKN245 We were talking about endgame I had a thought on this It might be cool to save endgame talk For the second half hour And that way we just make it the last topic And if people want to leave, they can just leave Okay, we could do that
Starting point is 00:00:16 And I think Since Game of Thrones had a big episode this week We're of course going to want to talk about it on PKA Also this week of PKA is going to be A drinking episode And I was thinking if we did of PKA is going to be a drinking episode. And I was thinking if we did Endgame and Game of Thrones on a drinking episode, it's just going to be an incoherent babbling at some point. And I'm sure that you guys would prefer if we did silly drinking games
Starting point is 00:00:36 and goofy topics and silly videos. And it was more funny than us trying to, as drunk us, be like, no, no, no, no. What you've got to understand is in season two, episode three, the Night King is referred to the old one. All right. Wait, what show are we talking about again? Heart Arliss. Arliss.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah. I don't think people would like that. So I think that'd be a good idea, Woody. Maybe the last half hour of this show is we're going to warn you, and then we're going to start talking about Endgame, which Taylor hasn't seen. I told him I don't fucking care. He doesn't care because he's not into
Starting point is 00:01:14 the biggest thing in pop culture in our modern-day society because he's too cool for that. I just don't like it. I actually take it from a different space. So I was thinking about Taylor today, probably in the shower. And I was like, I don't think Taylor's claiming to be too cool.
Starting point is 00:01:33 He's just saying it's not his cup of tea. Nobody says superheroes are so lame. Really, we should have more shows about throwing dwarves and elves that can walk on snow. That's not a cool position it's it's just this isn't my cup of tea am i on target oh yeah you're totally on target like it's just the superhero genre like it just doesn't pull me in and science fiction other people like science fiction some of it does but not nearly as much as fantasy like lord of the rings style that's why i like game of thr. But when I read Gatiss,
Starting point is 00:02:06 I really put like Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings as gayer than Iron Man and Captain America. Well, don't lump Lord of the Rings with Harry Potter. A hundred years from now, there's going to be a series of children's books from the late 90s, early 2000s
Starting point is 00:02:21 that were popular. And there's going to be one of the best known literature. All my childhood friends were reading Lord of the Rings. Of, early 2000s that were popular. There's going to be one of the best known literature epics of the early 1920th century. All the little kids in Morristown, New Jersey read Lord of the Rings at 8 and 10 years old. That was a good book. I'm just saying it's going to be remembered long after
Starting point is 00:02:38 Harry Potter. J.R.R. Tolkien wasn't on Twitter. Actually, Frodo and Sam off screen sucked each other off all the time. It was something that they enjoyed. That's funny. I wonder which is literally more popular as far as books sold, though. It's got to be.
Starting point is 00:02:54 I guess it's not fair because there were seven Harry Potter books, huh? Yeah, and there's shit like the internet now. They didn't really have that when Lord of the Rings released. What impact do you think that has? They mentioned the Lord of the Rings on the internet at some point. Oh, I thought, okay, you mean like an all-time kind of purchasing thing. I thought you were trying to do like an in-the-moment popularity.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Which is culturally more impactful, Lord of the Rings or Game of Thrones. The fact that Lord of the Rings is seven movies. Definitely Lord of the Rings. Look at what George R.R. Martin says about his inspiration for so much of the Westeros world and everything. I think he said something like J.R.R. Tolkien kind of laid the foundation
Starting point is 00:03:34 for where a lot of other fantasy writers springboarded off of. Have you read Harry Potter? No. Well, then I don't know why we're even going to continue down this road then. We're not talking about which book's better. Well, we are talking about that too. But we're talking about which one's more popular. We're talking about which one was more culturally significant.
Starting point is 00:03:51 And more influential. That's it. And culturally significant is a neat thing. I will wait for the second half. I was about to talk about Endgame shit. And I'm very excited that I enjoyed it a lot. I hope that doesn't spoil it. What's your guys' stack rank of the nerdy shit if like you break it down into coolness or goodness like
Starting point is 00:04:10 no like just your personal preference there's like the sci-fi tech you're out in space there's the fantasy lord of the rings kind of i'll put lord of the rings harry potter game of thrones in that same kind of world all right now are we comparing genres like you just stated like science fiction versus fantasy versus, I don't even know where superheroes exactly become. Things that appeal to nerds. I was going to just name them comic books. Or specific franchises.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Like, oh, I really like the Transformers. And you're like, no, no, no, Autobots were better. What are we comparing? Genres or specific properties? Let's say genres. And the genres are fantasy, sci-fi, and let's just simplify it to superhero slash comic. Man, I like it
Starting point is 00:04:48 when they're in fucking outer space. That's your tippity top. Like alien. For me, if they're in outer space I like that shit a lot. And that encompasses so much good shit from Battlestar Galactica to the Alien franchise
Starting point is 00:05:03 to Star Trek, obviously, you know, I like that shit. And I'm sure a lot of people would think Star Wars, you know, obviously it's not my favorite thing, but it has its moments and it's a great story and a really cool universe. So I would say space shit is the top for me. I'm having a hard time separating the actual movies from the genre as i come up with this ranking because if you were to tell me you were coming up with like a really great thing i would hope it would be star cowboys right this is the star wars the swashbuckling maybe guardians of the galaxy like star cowboy shit not necessarily real like realistic
Starting point is 00:05:45 star stuff where they're lightweight spaceships that can't take a hit you know no no no star cowboy things that's what i want but the superhero stuff has been executed better than perhaps any movie that's been ever made and it's like they took maybe my second or third favorite of these i might even rank superheroes last had marvel not done what they've done with their 30 some movies which makes it maybe first yeah it's marvel that's done such a good job with these properties because frankly like i mean the nolan films were good and all, but they don't make me love comic book movies. And the Superman movies, I've seen every Superman movie that's been made since.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Me too. All of everything that's ever been done in that, about Superman. So you guys rank the Nolan franchise of Batman lower than the Marvel stuff? Oh yeah. I do, but I also think it's really good he's verse three yeah well i mean i i mean i could pick it the nolan stuff is better than a
Starting point is 00:06:51 few of the marvel movies like the bottom tier marvel movies i really hated iron man three i thought it was a garbage fucking movie with the fake mandarin and everything um and the the villain was um the actor who's uh the aust the Australian actor whose name's escaping me. But he grabs stuff and it gets real hot, you know, and Pepper Potts is like making his power. Yeah. Pepper Potts is telling Tony to like stop being Iron Man. And he's like, yeah, I guess I'll stop being Iron Man. He's got PTSD. It was lame. The first Thor, I think, is not as good as a lot of the other ones. Maybe even the second Thor is the worst one.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Kyle remembers movies better than me. I never want to argue it, but I will say the third Thor was tippity-top great stuff. In my head, the first Thor, he didn't have his powers for a lot of the first Thor, and that, to me, I didn't like. You guys should take advantage of the fact that I know nothing about the Marvel Universe. Do you remember in Thor 4 when he molested that kid? What was the dude with Thor licking
Starting point is 00:07:52 his enemies? Is that where the hockey guy got the idea? Yeah, because if you said there was a Thor 5, I'd be like, yeah, that sounds right. I liked Thor 1 because they really focused on his fish out of waterof-water thing, where he's like,
Starting point is 00:08:07 I'm from Asgard, and I dress like this and talk funny. Well, bow before me. I'm a king among men. And they're all just like, what's your problem, dude? You just seem like a regular guy. That's making me like him more. That's a cool bit. He's going around making people bow.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Well, he's kind of got that. That's so cool. And he's trying to fuck Natalie Portman. She's like a main character. I think he does. Do they fuck on screen? But he's definitely dating her for long enough. Look, two guys about 30 don't date for a while and not fuck.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Yeah, yeah. Natalie looks loose to me. She'd be down. Thor is a big dude. He saves her life three times in that movie. She's giving it up big time. But the second one was like the... I watched it on a plane, so maybe that affects it, but I think
Starting point is 00:08:48 it's universally panned and disliked as the worst Thor movie. I like dark elf bullshit. I didn't give a fuck. I didn't care for it at all. And no Natalie Portman. So what would be your lowest of those three, Kyle? Fantasy? No, I love fantasy.
Starting point is 00:09:04 I love fantasy. Superhero the lowest, then? Out of the three,yle fantasy or no i love fantasy i love fantasy superhero the lowest then uh out of the three i would put super you're having the same issue i am which is that superheroes the lowest but they're so well done i almost put them first i won't say you do but they're so well done yeah i i don't know it's just that there's a lot of great fantasy properties i'd have a hard time like right now rattling them all off. But Legend, I want to say, is that movie where Tom Cruise is fighting literally what looks like Satan. It's I haven't seen. Oh, man. And just just I'm really having the never ending story.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Like there's just a bunch of. Yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of fantasy... What's the Will Smith zombie movie called? I Am Legend. That's where I'm mixed up. Yeah, yeah. Legend is like a fairy tale with live action actors. And the actor's name's escaping me. It's the guy who played
Starting point is 00:10:00 fucking the clown in It. Pennywise in the original. Yeah, okay. But let me pull up a picture of what like the bad guy in that movie looked like it's basically Satan and Tom Cruise is fighting him, legend a very young Tom Cruise Tom Cruise is somehow still very young
Starting point is 00:10:18 I'm not sure I get it I mean he looks like a child see he paid for that youth when God was like, you'll look young forever, but you're going to be 5'6". And he's like, they can do a lot. Have you seen Lord of the Rings? They can really change some perspectives
Starting point is 00:10:35 on camera. If you look at that image, you can see just how young Tom Cruise is, maybe. It's a small image. I wouldn't have even noticed that was Tom Cruise if you hadn't pointed it out. And then over his shoulder, that's the bad guy. And it's basically Satan. And you wouldn't have even noticed that was Tom Cruise if you hadn't pointed it out and then over his shoulder That's the bad guy and it's basically Satan and you can't really tell unless you look closely
Starting point is 00:10:49 But his horns are about this big around at the base and about three feet long each like one of those giant cows with the crazy horns, they're absurd That you know, I like fantasy a lot. So so but but the the superhero stuff is what's what's going on right now like fantasy a lot so so but but the the superhero stuff is what's what's going on right now it'd be cool to be a kid right now to be like an eight-year-old like experiencing all this marvel shit at that age when you're really prone to just just truly soaking that shit up you know that like there weren't great movies like this when i was eight i have to agree somebody older than me was talking about the experience they had watching James Bond movies, right? This is, who's the English James Bond?
Starting point is 00:11:29 Sean Connery? Yeah. He's Scottish. Thank you. A young Sean Connery. Like, she was talking about, they just go out, a group of friends, all catching 007 on a night. And then I was like, yeah, that sounds like some pretty legit stuff. And there's some pretty legit stuff going on right now.
Starting point is 00:11:46 It's tougher, though. You can't even get into the movies. I saw Endgame, I swear, not a spoiler, at 11.40 a.m. Because that's what it took. 11 a.m. Yeah, that's what it took to get a decent ticket. I didn't want to sit. In my theaters, there's good seating.
Starting point is 00:12:00 And then in front of that, there's handicapped seating. And then in front of that, there's seating you probably don't want to settle for. And I waited. Don't you have reserved seating there? I did have to of that, there's handicapped seating. And then in front of that, there's seating you probably don't want to settle for. And I waited. Don't you have reserved seating there? I did have to do that, yeah. But I mean, I reserved it like for Monday, right after PKA. Yeah, yeah. I'll talk more about what I did and how I sat there later on.
Starting point is 00:12:20 But yeah, I really like the space shit. And then maybe the marvel shit is like my like superhero stuff is like my lower tier but and then the fantasy is is really big for me too i love fantasy and you could almost say star wars is a mixture of fantasy and sci-fi in a lot of ways yeah because they did say it happened a long time ago that's long ago in a universe far far away where people look just like us. Did they explain that in Star Wars? No, that's Star Trek where they explained that.
Starting point is 00:12:49 You are right. Everyone's white. Said Star Wars and meant Star Trek. Yeah, that's that Next Generation episode. One of the better episodes. I'm trying to think of really good series and such that were out when I was eight. To your point, Kyle, and I'm not coming up with anything quite as...
Starting point is 00:13:03 How old were you for Lord of the Rings, though? You were good high school, right? 12. Middle school? That's pretty legit. I think the first one came out when? 2001? Around then? 2001? I watched Lord of the Rings and I fell so in love with that. 99, I would say, or 2000 was the first one. And then they came out like a year and a half ago. It was every
Starting point is 00:13:20 Christmas it would come out. I remember when I first went to go see Lord of the Rings, my dad's friend and his son came over. I could have just said my friend came over. Why did I say it like that? My friend came over and his dad was like, we're going to go to this Lord of the Rings movie.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I was like, that sounds really gay, dude. A bunch of elves and shit prancing around. This looks lame. Then I went and by two hours into it i'm like on the edge of my seat like just loving it like i still i remember sitting in that's how the matrix was for me i was a huge matrix fan when it came out because that that was groundbreaking special effects and the first one was great as the internet knows kiana was awesome and uh and it just just
Starting point is 00:14:01 really sold me i'm so there were i've read the other casting opportunities and it just really sold me. I've read the other casting opportunities, and it was offered to Will Smith at one point, and Sandra Bullock was even considered as the one. God! Will Smith would have ruined it. He'd have ruined it. Yeah, Sandra Bullock I'd give a maybe, right? Because Sandra Bullock to me is pretty parallel to the,
Starting point is 00:14:20 I don't know the name of the chick who was like the second big character. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought she did a pretty good job. Make her a dude or something, I guess, if Sandra Bullock's a girl. No, no, I think Sandra Bullock was going to be the one. Oh, I follow. I follow. But what I'm saying is the other one did such a good job.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I think Sandra Bullock could have. It wouldn't have been as good as Keanu, but it would have been good. Will Smith, I have really only seen him play Will Smith. I'm being too harsh. He was good in Muhammad Ali. He was good in seven pounds. Love that. I love that.
Starting point is 00:14:54 But he plays Will Smith a lot. The person he's playing is believed to be kind of similar to how Will Smith is. No, that's not true. What do you just nail two really good ones? Will Smith is. No, that's not true. I think... What do you just nailed? Two really good ones.
Starting point is 00:15:05 And there's also one of them... There's the one where... The first one where he's with his son. It's like something about life. It's where he's really poor and he's trying to sell those... Oh, Pursuit of Happiness. Pursuit of Happiness.
Starting point is 00:15:16 Yeah, that was real emotional. Good but overrated, according to me. So Will Smith has more range than I'm giving him credit for. But I think he would have played matrix like he played fresh prince and that's that would have destroyed it do you have actors where like you will like dislike them forever after they quit a part that you really liked because you compare every future endeavor to that part you have i think that that might be how i am with will sm Smith where as a kid I loved
Starting point is 00:15:45 Fresh Prince every time it was on I watched Fresh Prince I thought it was hilarious I thought Carlton and Will's antics and you know Uncle Phil and the whole gang all fooling around the butler chiming in with his remarks I loved that show it was hilarious and so every time like after that
Starting point is 00:16:00 it was like Will Smith starring in fucking I Am Legend I'm like this isn't funny this is i don't like this i enjoyed i am legend that movie was okay but like nothing holds up to will smith as the fresh prince bad boys man i thought he bad boys that was the perfect movie for him to transition i want to say that might have been his big role after fresh friends i could be wrong i know you're right obviously Independence Day was somewhere in there too I don't know which came first really chronologically but he was great in Bad Boys and Martin Lawrence it does a really good job and he just sort of played that he was still like
Starting point is 00:16:37 even the character in Bad Boys is rich guy cool kid you know and sort of like you know that's the character and that's sort of who he was in fresh prince sort of especially by the later seasons i guess that was a pretty good movie and i haven't seen a lot of his reason stuff he don't know he was in a i saw i saw suicide squad and it was terrible he's got a new one coming out i saw the preview for it but he wasn't end game um well he is and so he wasn't terrible in suicide squad ah i see yeah he was fine in suicide squad it was just bad it was just a bad movie it seemed so he's got a new movie called gemini man where he's like the greatest assassin or some shit of all time. And unbeknownst to him, someone cloned him like 20 years ago.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And so now his clone is 20. So they got a 20-year-old Will Smith chasing around a 45-year-old Will Smith or something like that. And they de-age him. And de-aging is so good now. It's pretty fucking good. There's a lot of it that goes on in the Avengers. It is good, but there's also like, what is it called? The uncanny valley where like your eyes can detect when something is wrong.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Even if you can't put a finger on what is wrong, your brain will just be like, ah, that's not real. That's not real. That's not real. So in watching the Gemini man trailer i i caught what you're talking about i was like that looks a little weird the way his mouth is moving there the voice is different too it's young will smith's voice they did a good job with it and everything however when they recreate um princess leia in star wars you can't fucking tell you can't fucking tell what did wait did they recreate she was on one of my examples of bad which is interesting really i thought she looked incredible like yeah i couldn't even tell
Starting point is 00:18:33 you can't no i would have said in like in avengers they do a lot of de-aging and i i don't even know like which scenes they did it you know like what they say with amazing cgi you don't know you're looking at cgi That's how I felt with a bunch of Avengers stuff. I'm like, I don't even know what these guys
Starting point is 00:18:49 really look like. With Leia, I mean, I was like, I guess if you start from a green field, if you invent it from whole cloth,
Starting point is 00:18:58 then they can't do it well because to me, she wasn't good. I thought she was really good. I couldn't tell. I guess a bunch of people or multiple people shot on the campus of University of North Carolina at
Starting point is 00:19:07 Charlotte. Oh, yuck. That's a downer. Thanks, Chiz. You know we're recording. Oh, when he posted it, I think he was telling me, my daughter goes to UNC Chapel Hill, the more prestigious campus. So he... Turns out, a better choice and see Chapel Hill, the more prestigious campus. One better one.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Turns out, a better choice than she ever knew. Yeah. It doesn't say anybody's dead, so that's good news. It says multiple people shot. I guess you're right. It doesn't say dead. That synagogue shooting, only one guy got killed. I think the rabbi got two fingers shot off.
Starting point is 00:19:43 That was a weird detail they shared recently. Three people were shot. Do you remember when they made a big deal out of all the shark attacks and it wasn't even a particularly big sharky time? It was normal. Take it easy. Is this just normal school shooting that we in America have grown accustomed to?
Starting point is 00:20:00 That the press is giving lots of coverage? I think they give a lot of coverage to every school shooting. I'm just fucking about. Yeah, I know. I mean, I wouldn't call it a massacre. Yeah. Three shot.
Starting point is 00:20:14 I'm not seeing any dead. Oh, hum. More like a playground pop. Yeah. A playground pop. A desk pop. You never followed through with that, Kyle. That's the perfect time. Yeah, yeah. I pop. You never followed through with that, Kyle. That's the perfect time.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Follow through with that. Perfect. That would have looked real bad. I did that with White Boy one time. We were on my back porch and hanging out as we would into the early morning hours and absolutely pulled a porch pop with White Boy out there.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Intentional porch pop. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Just scared the bejesus out of him. Did he know it was coming? No. No, I liked messing with White Boy because he was kind of a fish out of water down in Georgia.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And I was in the middle of becoming as much of a weapons expert as I could. So I would spend hours throwing knives and watching knife throwing tutorials. And he's sitting there on the couch and there's this wooden beam. I'm going to say two and a half feet from his head. And I just turn around and down, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:16 From like four steps away. And he just goes, the knife is just stuck next to him. Kyle, I had a question for you. And I hope I'm not playing stump the Kyle. No, that's okay. 10 millimeter versus 9 millimeter. It's not as obvious as a non-gun person might think.
Starting point is 00:21:34 How does that rank in the power-speed ratio? The 10 is much more powerful. So you don't see a lot of 10 millimeter. I think it's an expensive cartridge. I don't even think I've ever fired it. I think I've fired like a 10 millimeter submachine gun before but never a handgun um for what i understand it's a much more powerful round more than a 45 45 is like heavy and slow nine is if people don't know it's fast i i think the 10 millimeter is sort of medium and fast which is probably you'd have to look at like the foot pounds of energy created on some ballistics chart to really
Starting point is 00:22:06 determine which is more powerful. And then there'd be penetration to consider as well. But I hear people in Alaska talking about using 10mm semis as sort of bear protection. And that speaks volumes to me. Out of a pistol? Yeah. And to me, that says two things. I disagree with you
Starting point is 00:22:22 because I don't know a lot about bears, but I want as much firepower as possible as a fucking bear i want like a shotgun with slugs and and one of those and a real extendo tube on that bitch so i never run out of slugs lots of slugs yeah he should be mauling me but and i should still have four more in the gun if it's if it comes to that what if he shoots you oh no now the bear has the gun there's still four slugs in there i should have listened to woody yeah it looks like you're pretty spot on just for like you're not even knowing that much about 10 mil kyle i'm on this site it's a little longer than the 45 acP and a little less powder in there. Yeah, yeah. Obviously, you know, force is velocity and mass. A little faster than the ACP, though, it looks like.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Yeah, most bullets are. The ACP, and again, like you can buy special bullets for the.45 ACP that are supersonic, but everything you're going to buy at Walmart from like Winchester or Lapua or Remington, it's all subsonic. That's why it's so good out of a suppressor because it's already going slower than sound and it's nice and quiet. Is that the only benefit of subsonic?
Starting point is 00:23:35 Is it quieter if you have that suppressor on there versus supersonic? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't sure if there was something else I didn't know about. Yeah, the crack of the bullet breaking the sound barrier is is very loud. So like, you know, I, if you shot a regular 556 gun through a suppressor, a lot, the average person,
Starting point is 00:23:57 especially on camera, can't even tell the difference really. But you shoot subsonic, like 300 blackout, or if you've got subsonic 556 which doesn't work all that well for a number of reasons the guns aren't made for subsonic they don't want to cycle correctly and there's all kind of stuff going on but subsonic shit is incredibly quiet and if you've got a very good suppressor uh it can almost be silent it's like especially 45 acp 300 blackout 22 caliber stuff like that Do you think you've had any hearing loss from all your shooting experience? I think that it's one of those
Starting point is 00:24:30 things that maybe I'll know in 10 or 15 years. Probably. Yeah, probably. I wouldn't be surprised. A couple of instances in particular, that mortar went off next to my head one time, my left ear, and that really hurt. And, uh, and that really, that really, that really hurt. And, uh,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and when I shot the mini gun, I wasn't wearing ear protection. Um, and I shot 4,500 rounds of 308, um, in the course of 60 seconds with no hearing protection. And, uh, and so that hurt, it felt like the inside of my ear was vibrating painfully, i couldn't stop because i paid for all that ammunition and it was not it was five thousand dollars i just wrote the check you know so we're not stopping in the middle of this for a little period the ear pain wasn't approaching a five thousand dollar check it wasn't it wasn't i so i'm gonna i'm gonna see an audiologist i don't have a time yet or anything, but I picked one. Let me read some symptoms of hearing loss. What? Muffling of speech and other sounds.
Starting point is 00:25:32 That one, I'm not even sure what they mean there. Difficulty understanding words, especially against background noise or in a crowd. I have that in a really big way. Trouble hearing consonants, maybe. Frequently asking others to speak more slowly, clearly, and loudly. That happens to me a ton. Need to turn up radio or television? I don't think so. Withdrawal from conversations? Yes. Avoidance of some social situations? Yes. And a lot of it is hearing-based. I can't tell you how, and it's also fairly new i know you're looking at me like i'm autistic but it's also fairly new i i think you do have a bit of an auditory processing thing i
Starting point is 00:26:10 don't think it's your hearing though what would have lost the hearing thing like you said it was pretty recent like from shooting guns when you were younger i think my father had the same progression during his age as a matter of fact i was thinking back to it when i was hope's age we used to call him tad all the time just to fuck with him because he couldn't tell the difference and that's me yeah no that's funny i'm behind that yeah you know and jackie would too we just call him ted and and um especially at the start of the conversation like when it happens you could probably i don't know if you could pull that off with me, but like, Jackie will say something to me, and it's like, look,
Starting point is 00:26:48 that first part, where I don't see your lips, they shouldn't be important words. Like, it's not until the middle that I got the vibe that I'm catching all of what you're throwing. So yeah, calling him Tad, like as the attention-getting opener to something you would say
Starting point is 00:27:04 to him, you totally get away with it. But you're not turning your TV any higher than usual or anything. I don't think so. I tell you, I watch my laptop more often than anything else, so I don't have a number. If it was like, I always listen to it on 43, and now it's 47, then that would be sort of measurable. But with laptop and YouTube sliders... And different shows have different levels. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I watch Sopranos, and I'm at 36, and then I'll switch to Game of Thrones, and it's like, let's bump it up to 48. It's different shows that have different shit going on. I don't even know how you guys do the both ears on thing. I hate this. I think it's something about how you've got your mix going, and you can't hear yourself in your
Starting point is 00:27:45 in your ears i don't hear myself in my ears and i don't need it oh i hear myself in my ears and i i do need it it's simultaneous like i don't it's it's no different than having no earphones yeah i definitely don't have it um but the result is i can i do get reverb because you keep yourself your ear though oh i wonder if your setup's different or if my ears are worse. It's one of those. Maybe I'll just move this. I do know one time I forget. I think it was,
Starting point is 00:28:12 I don't know if it was Taylor or the guest, but they hung their headset on the mic and left. So we just played ourselves into the mic the whole time they were away from the chair. Probably me. I do that. It might've been you. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Yeah. We've all done that a time or two i'm sure i don't know i do it without fail that's where i put them um but i had a thing oh oh and i want to say it's not paramotor related and i think it's not because i was too recent i'm very good on hearing protection and i wear hearing protection under my hearing protection when i fly so i don't think it's that i don't want it's that. I got my ears checked about four years ago at a Sam's Club. They do everything. They had this little booth there where they had like a,
Starting point is 00:28:52 whatever you fucking call that, ear audiologist guy or whatever the hell. But he's a doctor. And they were selling hearing aids. So I got in this soundproof booth. So they would be motivated to say bad. Yeah. He put a headset on me, and he played key tones.
Starting point is 00:29:07 And I don't remember what I did to indicate that I could hear them or whatever, but it was excellent. He was like, you have excellent hearing. Better than average. And I was like, that can't be. That can't be. Yeah. So I think it happens over time because it's the little, I don't know what they're called, but there's little follicles. I've heard them called hairs.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Yeah, inside your ear. And I think that the extreme loud noises are making those things. I won't say brittle, but it's fucking them up. So they don't work as good anymore. And I think that occurs over time. So 10 years, I might go deaf. We'll see. I like to think it's age related because my father had followed a similar path
Starting point is 00:29:45 and uh i don't know if nothing else i want to know one do i really have hearing issues because it is common for people with hearing issues to blame the speaker and i blame the speaker that does not mean the speaker is innocent right it's like baby you were in another room and you were facing in the other direction. I don't know if other people would have heard you under those circumstances, but let's admit it's a toughie. Why don't you be looking at me when you talk to me?
Starting point is 00:30:14 In the same room, perhaps. These would really help. Yeah, what I do when people do that shit like that, I give them the same level that they're giving me. I say, hey, I can't really hear you when you talk like that. They're like, exactly i'm operating a blender like i'm literally in the kitchen on using a blender to like make margaritas and somebody's somebody's like talking to me as if i'm not in the other room and i'm just like motherfucker do you do you see this this eight
Starting point is 00:30:43 horsepower why are blenders so goddamn loud? I'm sure they've solved that. I'm still using a regular $50 blender, but I think if you get the $150 or $200 blender, they just go, mmm. I think they're quiet now. It's just because I haven't gotten a good one. I'm often frustrated because in my world,
Starting point is 00:31:01 a lot of people don't speak well or understand what I'm going through. Here's a super common thing. I lay in my wing and someone wants to talk to me. Now, when I pack it away, it's really crispy and noisy and crackly as you fold it. And I'm literally hugging it to make it smaller and get the air out. Next to my head, it's like a out next to my head. It is, it's like a lawnmower or something like it's really loud there. And I,
Starting point is 00:31:29 other people don't like you, you do this, you know what it sounds like right here, right next to this wing. Have some understanding that I can't hear you right now, but yeah, maybe it's my ears. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:31:40 We'll see. Do you use electronic muffs ever? I, I, I have a big, the biggest passive muffs I can buy, and then under those, I have Bose active noise-canceling muffs. Gotcha. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I love the electronic muffs. I remember at one point they were like $150, and then out of nowhere they were like $20. It's one of those things that just, oh, yeah, they're electronic ear muffs, but they're $150 a set. And it was like, those things that just oh yeah they're electronic earmuffs but they're 150 a set and it's like hey uh that guy left his should we tell him no no don't mention it those guys those guys own their own gun company they don't care and just fucking hang on to it like yeah they left them here they're ours yeah but but and then like a couple years later it's like
Starting point is 00:32:21 oh yeah you can get those at walmart they're 25 those are great you flip a fucking switch and if you keep pushing the dial you get super hearing you can eavesdrop i was at um oh those are the ones you can get for like hunting because i've won those before when like deer hunting where like you can hear like little cracks in the woods from that's a different product um that that's made to increase your hearing for hunting so that you can hear stuff like that. But these are electronic earmuffs that have the added benefit that if you keep rolling them over and giving them more and more power,
Starting point is 00:32:54 it's like, yeah, I can hear those guys talking over there who are just having a personal conversation. So the idea is that Kyle and I can talk to each other, right? So voices are elevated to a certain noise, but gunshots, the passive protection is always there, and it doesn't pass that through. But like you said, if I crank Kyle up enough, I can hear guys over there.
Starting point is 00:33:13 And I was saying something to Kyle. I don't recall what it was, but he gave me the old, Woody, do keep in mind, everyone here has these eavesdropping devices on. And I was like, oh, this is the voice of experience at shooting ranges i should keep in mind that everyone here has super hearing yeah yeah that and like like
Starting point is 00:33:32 i've been through i never did that thing where i would say things i shouldn't say when i was miked because i was always miked so much but like i see that happening to like professionals and i'm like dude you've went through your life with a fucking mic pack there's a mic pack attached to your ass right now you forgot like like i would always be like somebody would try to have a personal conversation i'd be like i'm miked i'm miked right now see that guy over there he's listening to us right now and he go hey yeah you're completely i i uh i had a stomach issue i prefer not to get specific. It's how I've always been. When I did the dance thing,
Starting point is 00:34:09 and I'm like, we've got this mic. I'm not sharing this. And they're like, no, no, we'll turn it off. I'm like, I want it off on my side. Let's do this together. I couldn't get to it. It might have been in the small on my back. That was a smart thing to make a to-do about.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Probably. Yeah, definitely. You think because that's on the outtake channel 30 fucking priority was making sure that your mic was off for your bathroom time like they would have totally forgot or something would have that was taylor what's this what's that murderer who got caught like that way where they like present him with the evidence and then he goes to the bathroom? They mocked it in that Sonny episode. Oh, it was that guy. He killed some woman in the 80s or something. And then he did another one later on.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And then he did it again in the 90s, and he came from this super wealthy family, some New York old money kind of thing. And it was when they were doing a final interview with him, and they're up in an office building, and he's got a hot mic on and they're like so you know and how do you answer this and like he's he's not coming up it was just like question they dropped a bombshell on him yeah they dropped a bombshell they had they had handwriting evidence like this is the letter that the murderer wrote and here's your lease agreement yeah and basically he goes to the bathroom and he's like standing there at the urinal or whatever and you can just hear on the hot mic keep it keep it together they they got you they got you and he's like saying they got you comes out of the bathroom it's like well you're under arrest like you just you just confessed while peeing you dumb fuck
Starting point is 00:35:41 and that was admissible there's no like miranda i only also had the bombshell evidence of the handwriting thing he ended up going away it's and it's really cool because i want to say this thing is like six parts uh six parts like maybe 45 minutes each and you're watching it and like unlike making a murder it's it's it there's not a lot of and maybe this could have happened it's's like, and then this happened. And you're like, well, shit. He got away with it. And like five hours in, they get to the end and they're like, this is where we realized we as the documentary film crew, I think we've solved this murder.
Starting point is 00:36:21 You know, we were just doing a story here, but we just saw this, didn't we? And they're like, I think we did. So we invited him to come see us and he showed up and now you're on the edge of your seat. Like, are they actually, is he going to kill them? Like, should I, do I need to start Googling real quick to figure out like if everybody's okay, did they get him again? I'll find it real quick. Okay. You it real quick okay you've got me you've got me interested it's called shit no it's not making a murderer god damn it robert durst it's the um yeah his name is robert durst let me now let me google what the robert durst oh i think it's oh it's the jinx it's called the jinx well that's a lousy name no wonder we didn't remember it
Starting point is 00:37:05 yeah robert durst the jinx the life and the life and deaths of robert durst wow oh yeah i like what you did there speaking of murderers uh this clip here you'll want to go full screen with the the streamable i linked Don't play it quite yet. This happened last night. NHL footage immediately gets you in YouTube trouble. 100% of the time. Oh, even on Unlisted? Yeah. It happened
Starting point is 00:37:36 to us when we watched the Ovechkin whatever fight. Remember we watched Ovechkin fight that? These fucking idiots are actively trying to keep the sport from growing. But, well, you can watch this on your own, it is the three most ridiculous embellishments I've ever seen in my life. You're coming at it. I'll lay it out there.
Starting point is 00:37:55 So they can Google it. And to be fair, all of our hockey is on my side too. What are the players' names? Bortuzzo and Lindell. You look at number 41, Bortuzzo, the Blues player, and Lindell takes three dives in a row. So I don't have a dog in this fight. And I also went on Our Hockey and watched it. And I would say the majority were on my side, which is, this is fucking hilarious. They're so funny.
Starting point is 00:38:26 It's so obviously. He gets ready to take the fall, too. He's like, oh, do it again, I dare you. There's three, and the third one in particular. He smiles at him. It was great. And Fortuzzo
Starting point is 00:38:42 keeps putting his hand up like, are you seeing this? Are you seeing him fall down? What were the penalties? Did they both get one diving and cross-checking? Like, what happened? Yeah, so at the end of it, they were like, you know, Bortuzzo off for cross-check. Lindell, embellishment. And they threw him off, too.
Starting point is 00:38:58 And so, like, Lindell, like, even all the Stars fans in that thread were like oh that's humiliating oh my god like and of course he's like a european player uh-huh and so like that's way more common you're not gonna see a good old ontario boy taking falls like that i'll tell you what's not gonna happen oh my god to me he was who's the um sean avery all right people don't know sean avery was an agitator he used to wave his stick in front of the goalie's face They had to make a rule for that He was an agitator And I hated him, but I'll admit
Starting point is 00:39:30 He was hilarious And that's how I see this guy too He was getting cross-checked Oh yeah, but he was also Embellishing in a way that Anyone who's watched hockey for more than 15 minutes Is like, that's not how you fall in this game. You don't jump
Starting point is 00:39:46 and your legs kick back like in a Benny Hill skit. Also, I don't know, imagine I poked you with two fingers and you dive and your head snaps back and your face slams to the ground. It's so crazy over the top. But tell me this because I couldn't find this detail.
Starting point is 00:40:03 How many cross-checks did it take to get the penalty? How many embellishments? Could he have not embellished a third time? I don't know. No, I think it was after the second embellishment, the ref was like, okay, there's penalties about to go around. Because the kind of cross-checks Bortuzzo was doing,
Starting point is 00:40:22 if you start calling those in the playoffs, you're not going to have any five-on-five gameplay. That happens all over the ice, that kind of cross checks Bortuzzo was doing, like if you start calling those in the playoffs, you're not going to have any five on five gameplay. Like that happens all over the ice, that kind of shit. And so I think the first embellishment and the first cross check was the refs like, eh, if he stands up and doesn't embellish and he stops cross checking him,
Starting point is 00:40:38 then we're done. And then the second cross check, I think the refs like, all right, that's a cross. Oh, well that guy's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:44 diving like he's in the Olympics right now. Okay. And then he stands, he blows the whistle. Lindell stands back up. And then Bortuzzo takes both hands on his stick and hits him like here. And so he does like the natural thing when you hit here is your head goes like this. No, it goes like that. You throw it backwards in that direction.
Starting point is 00:41:02 So he looked like a fucking ass. And then at the end of the game he dove again the game was tied three to three and there was a minute left and maroon one of our big guys was in front of the net and he gave like just a normal like hand shove like to this same defenseman lindell and lindell fell in a way, just flat on his belt. Just like, same way he did. Just fell on his belly. The puck trickles around him because he's on his belly.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Maroon picks it up and scores as he's still laying on his belly there. And it was like poetic justice. That guy tried to dive again. And so Lindell out there, you're not getting another call in your favor this whole series. You're about to get your shit rocked by the blues for as many games as this series takes win or lose two points one i love that we're assuming that liddell is a patron and two
Starting point is 00:41:55 a lot of people pay for this kind of thing i'm unsubscribing a lot of people felt like it was a good trade like probably the cross-check got called and the embellishment got called because the embellishment happened. The player cross-checking him was better than him. For both of them getting tossed, that's a win. Do you agree? I came at it the other way.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Bortuzzo, the Blues defenseman, those are both defensemen. Bortuzzo, the Blues defenseman, is a heavy hitter, heavy player, grinder kind of defenseman, but he's not going to – he's going to struggle shutting down Jamie Benn, Tyler Sagan, the really good forwards for Dallas. Whereas Lindell, even if he is – or Liddell, whatever the fuck it is, even if he sucks at not diving and is not physical at all, he's a good shutdown defenseman. He's good at getting his stick, causing problems as you're trying to get it into the offensive zone. I saw it as like, oh, awesome. This guy's been shutting down Tarasenko and O'Reilly all night.
Starting point is 00:42:52 Let's get our good guys out there and take advantage of his absence. I was just repeating what I read on our hockey, so I don't know how... When you go on certain forums online and you'll read about a topic you know nothing about, and you'll be like, okay, okay. I see where they're coming. That makes sense.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Turns out Hugo's the best name in cars. Noted. And then I'll go to our hockey, something I do know a bit about the sport, just not at Building Brackets, and I'll be like, what in the fuck? These people are retarded. These people are all wrong.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And it kind of makes you think like, oh, wait. Are all those other forums I'm going to, are those people just as retarded as These people are all wrong, and it kind of makes you think, oh wait, are all those other forums I'm going to, are those people just as retarded as the people here? I was doing sports. Probably. Philadelphia has taken home court advantage from who are they playing? Toronto?
Starting point is 00:43:38 I'm excited about that. Carolina has also taken home ice advantage. They've won both games, though. Carolina's taken that series for sure. Like, barring a huge – the only bad thing is that – Damn it. The worst hockey prognosticator on the planet has just told me Carolina's about to win. Well, I mean, actually, I should walk that back.
Starting point is 00:44:00 In Mrazek, their goalie just got hurt. Carolina's did? I didn't even catch that. Yeah. Mrazek, their starting goalie, got. Carolinas did? I didn't even catch that. Mrazek, their starting goalie, got hurt. He's been playing very well. They're putting McElhaney in. He's a 35-year-old guy who just got his first playoff win two games ago. I think that might actually be
Starting point is 00:44:16 good because it's a dude who's a career backup and he's finally getting his shot in the big show. If he plays really hot, he knows in his head, like if I have two or three really good games and everybody's looking, it's better. They're not going to put him in.
Starting point is 00:44:31 They're going to ride me as a hot goalie. And so, you know, he, he's probably playing for one final contract, make a few more mil. So you're right. And then some,
Starting point is 00:44:38 it's a weird thing. And I don't, I think it's mostly a hockey thing when your goalie sucks, man, does the team step up. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, sometimes. They just all start playing goalie.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It helps a ton. That helps, but then other times, if they don't have any confidence in their goalie, they'll play too reserved. I'm sure you know when you're playing out there, you'll be like, oh, we got slick Steve in net. I don't even care if I give up this puck. I'm going whole hog forward. He's going to save it.
Starting point is 00:45:09 We've got five offensemen effectively. Yeah. No D. First, you're like, well, you know, Allen is subbing in tonight. He's never played before. Yeah, right. So let's keep five guys back. You know, we're really grateful that Slick Steve was able to lend him equipment.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah. When you have that guy, you can be surprised. Teams will step up and really help the goalie. We're all in this together. And look, Alan, we're just as scared as you are. We're going to try and help, though. It's fun. Anyway, we'll get off hockey now.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I know you guys want to, want to talk about, uh, end game. Yeah. So Kyle, we were going to spoil the heck out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:52 All right. So if you're listening and you don't want end game spoiled the heck out of it, that's all the last 14 minutes is probably going to be. Yes. You've been warned. So I, I didn't like the movie, um,
Starting point is 00:46:02 for most of the movie. Um, not very much anyway. I don't like time travel. Um, I, I didn't like the movie um for most of the movie um not very much anyway i don't like time travel um i didn't like um i didn't like a lot of it i liked it when thor chopped off thanos's head there right in the beginning i was like well hell yeah all right yeah but then it's like i thought this was three hours long but we beat thanos in the opening six minutes yeah got him yeah they're like what are we gonna do captain marvel's like i'm just gonna go whoop his ass but we beat Thanos in the opening six minutes. Yeah, got him. Yeah. They're like, what are we going to do? Captain Marvel's like,
Starting point is 00:46:28 I'm just going to go whip his ass. And they're like, all right, let's go. And I'm like, this won't be as easy as she thinks. And they get there and she's like, yeah, nobody's down there for him. Let's go whip his ass. And sure enough, she just goes and like, gets him in a headlock and they whip his ass
Starting point is 00:46:42 and cut his head right the fuck off. Blood all over his daughter's face. All right, GG, motherfucker. and then it was like oh but they're gonna have to go back now that's the only way because the stones are broken so this is gonna be another that same time travel movie i've seen before kyle skipped over the opening and i feel like we should cover it the opening scene is hawkeye playing with his wife and kids i think he's teaching his daughter archery and his wife's out there like preparing lunch on a picnic table hot dogs okay and uh like hawkeye is in his happy place it's happened and you know half the planet's wiped out but he's unlucky in that two or three i forget how big his family was his entire family, but he's unlucky in that two or three. I forget how big his family was. His entire family.
Starting point is 00:47:25 Yeah, but that's two or three people, right? Like three kids and his wife. Oh, okay. It's more than I remembered. But yeah, all his kids and his wife are gone. And this was his heaven. And it was a perfect family. And they kind of really lay that out there.
Starting point is 00:47:41 And it's the opening scene and I was grabbed i was saying oh yeah something horrible has happened like it just it really laid down like right right like because infinity wars ends and you're like, shit, it went wrong. And, you know, that was a year ago. So I had kind of lost that vibe. And man, did they plant it on you in the opening scene. Yeah, that was a good scene. I liked that a lot.
Starting point is 00:48:15 And I even liked, I would have liked to have watched a whole movie about Hawkeye killing the cartel in the Yakuza. Because that's what he went off and did. He went off on a murderous rampage with a sword now! Apparently, he learned that along the way. He's downgraded from the sword. He went the only direction with a weapon that he could. Well, it comes in handy
Starting point is 00:48:33 when you're fighting the Yakuza, because they're partial to swords as well. He did go technologically backwards, though, right? I don't want to see him come out with a spear shortly later. He's going to have an atlatl. He's going to keep going back until he's got a rock from Rust.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Tactical slingshots. I'd have been down for that movie. That would have been cool. There were a lot of movies that could have been made here. Not to replace this one, but they do the five years later move to you like right at the beginning there were a lot of movies that could have been made
Starting point is 00:49:11 in those fake five years it would have been great like humanity putting itself back together sort of um scarlett johansson's black widow character taking over is like the boss there was a lot of shit that went on that, you know, there's like, ah, shit all happened. You know, I don't know who died. At the end? A lot of people died. Yeah. I'm going to list them off.
Starting point is 00:49:30 Captain America aged. There's a time travel element and he didn't come back when he was supposed to. So he's effectively, I don't know, 68 years old. He's out of the, he's out of action forever now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:41 He's done. Iron Man literally dies. So he's done done. Shit. Who am I missing, Kyle? Someone else died died. Doesn't Black Widow die? Black Widow dies, dies.
Starting point is 00:49:55 She's done. And then Hawkeye retires. Now this isn't his first retirement, but I suspect he's done done too. Pulling a Jordan. Yeah. Yeah, he's going to play baseball. That's not as many deaths
Starting point is 00:50:10 as I would have thought. There were a lot of average characters who bit the bullet, but I was not liking... I felt like they missed a lot of opportunities with their time travel. They could have revisited more of their greatest moments in the Marvel universe and I would have liked it if the time travelers,
Starting point is 00:50:27 you know, they were like, all right, let's be careful not to affect anything. I like it better in time travel movies where it's like, we're trying hard not to affect anything, but it turned out that if we don't affect things, everything goes awry.
Starting point is 00:50:38 And the, and the, and all the movies that, that you and I have watched in the past, those other like fucking 28 movies of Marvel shit, only the good guys were only winning so much and seemed to have so much plot armor always because their time
Starting point is 00:50:50 traveling alter selves were coming back and saving the day over and over and pulling the switch behind the scenes. When you first laid that out, I thought I was hoping for the opposite, but no, that's what I wanted too. I wanted that, like, oh yeah, we watched this the first time, but it turns out there were all these diving catches done by our time-traveling friends.
Starting point is 00:51:09 You know, it was like, oh, the Hulk thought he took that guy out, but it turns out Ant-Man was on the inside scrambling his belly. And that's why the big character died. Like when the Hulk punched that big thing that does this in the first Avengers movie. If, like, they'd been on the inside, like, like just ripping it apart the whole time. And the Hulk was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:29 one hit. And then the alter Hulk is on the inside. Just like, Oh yeah. Yeah. Beating it up. I've been beating its colon for the last 15 minutes with my bare hands. I liked some of that.
Starting point is 00:51:43 I felt like that was a missed opportunity. I did like some of that. I felt like that was a missed opportunity. I did like some of the Tinder moments she got. I liked seeing Thor get a last moment with his mother. I'd have liked to have seen Natalie Portman have a line. I did like that the raccoon is just like ahhh, like running up behind
Starting point is 00:52:00 Natalie Portman to stab her, and then you never see her again. Maybe he killed her. We don't killed her he's kind of immoral like that he might have next time you see the raccoon he's just got the the red ooze from inside of her and he's running from like 15 palace guards you know so we don't know what happened to Natalie Portman he may have killed her um did the raccoon live though yeah and then obviously you get um the raccoon's a main character. I know it's weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And then Tony Stark gets to meet his father, and they have that great moment about fatherhood and children and stuff. That was real cool, too. Obviously, Captain America seeing Betty, or whatever her name is, is his long-lost love. Captain America making fun of himself. There's one point where Captain America fights himself, but Loki has the the ability to look like other people so he assumes he's fighting loki and captain america is like i could do this all day and our captain america is like i know i know like like you know i i used to be as dorky as you saying shit like that it was pretty cool i there there was a part where uh that
Starting point is 00:53:00 i liked a lot um spider they're like looking at the past version of Captain America. And I think it's like Ant-Man and Tony Stark are. And Ant-Man's super tiny on Tony Stark's shoulder. And Tony's like, ah, I never noticed. Those pants really do something for your ass, Captain America. And they're laughing at him. And Ant-Man's like, hey, hey, hey, that's America's ass. Don't laugh at that. I-Man say hey hey hey that's America's ass don't laugh at that I think
Starting point is 00:53:26 it looks great Cap and later on like when he defeats his like prior self like he's laying there in a position that like kind of shows off his ass and he goes that is America's ass he's got a big old ass I really wish they'd taken that moment
Starting point is 00:53:41 and then does Captain Marvel like walk away all upset she wasn't there it's not that great I wish there had taken that moment. And then does Captain Marvel walk away all upset? She wasn't there, but I wish there'd been a moment where her flat ass had been there in that same character and then go, like, not so much. Oh, by the way, you know the thing about Captain Marvel not being liked by the other characters? Taylor said it, and I was like, oh, I looked into it. It's not really about the actress,
Starting point is 00:54:05 which is how what i how i interpreted it um it's about the fact that she's now we'll see how it evolves but they were setting her up to be the center of the mark of the marvel world you know like it used to be iron man it was going to be her and scarlet witch is like man i'm like the most powerful person now suddenly i'm second most powerful. This kind of sucks. Why is she getting all this shine? And I think they feel like they paid their dues. They made their 30 movies. And she's a slide in.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Yeah, maybe so. And she's sliding in in the lead. I like her haircut. I can see her frustration then. I liked her haircut. She was used sparingly in this movie, and I I don't I don't like to look at her too much um but but but when she did make her did her do her moments they were good and impactful and fun um but but honestly like it got down to the very end of the movie and Thanos shows up again
Starting point is 00:54:58 and it's at that point that the movie becomes not just good, but really fucking good to me. Prior to Thanos coming back to Earth and blowing up the Avengers headquarters, I was pretty iffy on the whole thing. I thought it was like a 6 out of 10 or something like that. But that last, I don't even call it a battle. It was a war where Thanos lands like 10,000 troops. And then out of nowhere, Doctor Strange opens up portals from all of the Marvel movies that we've ever seen. So we have maybe, I don't even remember well, four or five Avengers, and they're fighting Thanos.
Starting point is 00:55:34 And they're brave. They're doing everything they can, but they're not beating Thanos. And Captain America's shield, which is this unbreakable super thing, solves all problems. It's just getting chipped away. you know, until he's there with half a shield and Thanos
Starting point is 00:55:50 comes. And a broken arm. Is that right? Okay. Yeah, he showed his arm and it was like compound fractured. Oh, is that what it was? He just goes, he just tightens it up. I didn't recognize it as a compound fracture. And at this point, like everyone else is kind of down and out. It's literally Captain America against He just tightens it up. I didn't recognize it as a program. Yeah, that's how compound fractures work. Just grit your teeth and bear it.
Starting point is 00:56:05 And at this point, like, everyone else is kind of down and out. It's literally Captain America against, like, I don't know, 12,000 super bad guys. And he's like, all right, I'm going to give it my best. And you're like, all right, I really respect your effort. And that, that, when all is lost except his spirit is when dr strange comes in and they bring back the rest of the team and i'm like choking up on it it was so amazing and it's not just the rest of the team it's like all of the as guardians that are left it's it's it's like pepper pots comes in an iron man in an iron man suit um um i'm surprised john favreau didn't show up with a shotgun or something it's everyone who's
Starting point is 00:56:53 ever been in these things ready to put their life on the line all the way yeah because they they um they snap and they bring back everyone and this is how they re-enter the the the battle my theater was almost all black people so the biggest cheer was when was when black panther shows back up with like his with like his family when black panther showed like like there was and i want to rewind a minute because the best part of the movie we skipped over slightly in my opinion but when the black panther family shows up that audience that i was with was like yeah it's over now it's over now all right we have the 19th strongest avenger he gonna stomp a mud hole in your ass thanos it was were hyped when the black people showed up.
Starting point is 00:57:46 But right before that, the greatest moment of the whole movie, for me, the moment where I felt emotional was when Thor is getting his shit pushed in big time by Thanos. Just blood's coming out everywhere and he's punching him in the face over and over, ground and pound. And you see Mjolnir, Thor's
Starting point is 00:58:02 hammer, which is off screen, start wiggling a little bit and then it gets picked up and I was like oh is it is it and then Captain America has the fucking hammer that no one else is worthy to hold and he's got the shield in one hand and he's got the hammer in the other and for like 60 seconds he's the greatest captain america there's ever been he's doing power moves he's doing the super spin he's calling down lightning bolts on thanos and it's like captain america might single-handedly just beat thanos here so i remember it's slightly different but kyle remembers movies better than me so he might be right but to me the first thor's losing thor's
Starting point is 00:58:44 not beating thanos in this 1v1 they're in. And he's kind of in a position. I think he's pressing Stormbreaker into his chest. And it just starts entering the outside of his sort of leather armor. And you're like, things are getting tight. What are we going to do about this? And then Mjolnir comes in and hits him. That, to me, is how I remember the opening thing.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And then it comes back and Captain America catches it. And Thor is like, I knew it all along! And you know, you learn Captain America is worthy of holding Mjolnir, which they hinted at like ten years ago when he was barely able to move it. Is it a worthy thing, or is it that Thor didn't
Starting point is 00:59:20 let anybody else pick it up until then? No, no. It's a worthiness. There's a scene in one of the earlier Avengers. I thought he was just a prick. I think it's Age of Ultron where they're hanging out at Tony Stark's club or something, and they all try and lift it. It doesn't budge for Hulk. It doesn't budge for anyone. It's a worthy thing.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Captain America touches it, and it moves just ever so slightly. And Thor is concerned. The concern washes over him him and he's like oh and then he doesn't lift it and the relief comes after ultron interrupts the whole scene so we never got to see like him exert his full force and really concentrate because ultron that's what ultron kind of comes in and he's like i'm back and i'm evil and into the fucking room and that there was a hint that captain america yeah he wiggled it but now he's got it and and he must have been paying attention to thor all these years yes
Starting point is 01:00:09 he can do everything thor can do suddenly he can do the crazy move he can do the lightning bolts and he can do like the sumo slam that makes the whole earth crack and run toward the enemy like it it was great and he's he's comboing with the shield and the hammer. One's flying and he's ricocheting the other and he's just throwing both these things simultaneously at the guy. It was very cool. I loved that moment. The crowd went wild for that as well.
Starting point is 01:00:36 That was the best moment of the whole movie for me. Where's your guys out of 10 ranking for the conclusion of this series? If it's not 10 in my head like then i'm just not giving out tens yeah i give it an eight i give it a real strong eight it was it was real good the acting was really good uh chris evans in particular i thought did a wonderful job i really liked fat fat thor um that here's another thing taylor we didn't mention
Starting point is 01:01:05 thor is very depressed because basically what has happened to him after he kills thanos yeah after he kills he kills thanos his whole world crumbles right because it was his fault that thanos wasn't killed in the in the last movie he had the one chance to to kill thanos and he hit him in the chest and thanos even says, you should have went for the head. And then he goes, snap, and everybody dies. And it was that moment of, I hit him in the chest instead of the head, that big mistake that cost everybody everything. And he really blames himself for that. And he'd already lost one fistfight with Thanos
Starting point is 01:01:40 that got a bunch of the Asgardians killed on their spaceship. So he goes into this depression where he's just drinking beer and playing video games with his space buddies in a cabin in like Norway or something. And he has gained... Of course he's in Norway. He's created his own town. It's called New Asgard.
Starting point is 01:01:58 And he's gained like 50 pounds or something like that. He has a huge beer belly. He has a huge beer belly. and it looks awful yes the raccoon goes you look like melted ice cream when his mother sees him she's like i love you so she's like the future's been hard on you yes you're not doing well eat a salad did she say eat a salad she said eat a salad and and and say eat a salad? She said eat a salad. And I thought that he was going to like lightning bolt eye away some of that fat, like some sort of like Billy Mays online infomercial,
Starting point is 01:02:31 like sumo the fat. I literally thought he was going to explain that. You know the Viking dude in that funny Viking Netflix show we watch? At one point he goes, my body responds really well to exercise. I was just sure Thor would say that, where he's like, all right, I've been pumping iron for like three days now. I'm back. I kind of wanted that to happen because – but he just keeps the beer belly the whole movie and he looks like the big Lebowski dude.
Starting point is 01:02:57 He's got the big beard. He's wearing sweats and he's got sunglasses on and he looks like the like a fat dude the big lebowski that's the dude okay i'm mixing up it's been too long yeah he looks like the dude but fat and he looks he looks terrible like kyle said and i thought that like by the final battle we'd have our old thor back oh no no in the final scene we don't have our old Thor back. Nope, nope. That's pretty cool. I like that.
Starting point is 01:03:28 He's going to have to cut calories, go on keto or something. I hope we see him again. I hope there's another Thor. Do you think that he's joined the Guardians of the Galaxy universe to do those movies? Kind of looked like it, didn't it? Yeah. I hope so. That's a fun...
Starting point is 01:03:42 I love the comedy in in this movie that's the good shit to me when they're light-hearted about the fact that they're all in costumes fighting evil because like like they get aboard the guardians of the galaxy spaceship the end taylor and it's like chris pratt is the captain of that ship and but but here's fucking thor the god of thunder right next to him it's like well i am the captain and he's like yes and i, the god of thunder, right next to him. It's like, well, I'm the captain. And he's like, yes, and I am the god of thunder and king of all of Asgard. No, remember, I watched the one before this, Avengers, whatever the fuck. I like that scene, too.
Starting point is 01:04:16 No, this is in Endgame. This is in the new one. You haven't seen this scene. So they're standing next to each other at the monitor, and they have this little conversation where they're talking about who's in charge. And the backup characters like Mantis and Drax, they're like you should fight each other to determine
Starting point is 01:04:32 who is leader. Yes, yes, with knives. Yes, yes, you should use knives. Chris Pratt is just like The Guardians of the Galaxy crew as far as my amateur looking at it, they seem like the coolest.
Starting point is 01:04:48 They're funniest. They seem like the funniest. They're not cool at all, but there's food funny in there. There are a bunch of goobers flying around. They have this conversation, and the acting is what makes it, so I can't replicate it,
Starting point is 01:05:00 but he's like... Chris Pratt is saying, look, I'm in charge, and Thor is going, yes, you're in charge. Right Thor is going, yes, you're in charge. Right, right. But the way you say it makes it sound like you're in charge. Oh, no, you're in charge.
Starting point is 01:05:15 No, no. Everyone knows who's in charge. Don't worry. And Chris is like, yeah, yeah, they do. It's me, right? Yes, it's you. And then he kind of looks at the camera like, yeah, yeah, they do. It's me, right? Yes, it's you. And then he kind of looks at the camera like, nah. I'm the guy with thunder and all that.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Yeah. And if you don't know, in the most recent Thor, there was a lot of humor in that too. And it turned Thor around. Everyone loved the third one. The opinions are not so universal on the first and second, but the third one, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:05:48 one of the best of the Marvel franchise. So for him to join Guardians of the Galaxy, which is kind of comedy based, I like the move. I didn't think of it. I hope they do that. I want to see that movie.
Starting point is 01:05:59 I want to see, because they got to go find his green girlfriend and everything. I'd watch a whole movie about that. Just one last thing when they so hawk man who's the falcon falcon i don't know black guy with the goggles and the wings black guy even the black guy next to him was like i don't even know his name i have actually two things about talking about what would they made him the new captain america and I'm like, but they're going to give the serum to him and make him buff, right? And then adult Woody goes, no, because they'd need a different actor if they wanted America-level buffness.
Starting point is 01:06:33 He's just going to be him. And I'm like, man, but he's supposed to have a 0.1 percenter body. He's like, I'll do my best. Fast-twitch muscle fiber fiber extra ligaments i can carry on so i hope that works out and the other there was a funny line in there kyle's talking about funny lines captain marvel comes and she's basically saying like dude there's a superhero here now we're gonna go get thanos and uh i think it's war machine who goes you know we're all about that superhero life this is a hard thing it's just a really well delivered line yeah we're all about that superhero yeah
Starting point is 01:07:10 you're acting like you're the only superhero here have you looked around she's like i i don't know if you noticed but i didn't use a spaceship when i landed i just kind of flew glowing all and shit she said that, too. Not exactly that, but she did say something like that, right? I don't think so. That's just me joking around. I could be crazy. I don't know. I liked when she was on.
Starting point is 01:07:34 The less she talks, the better. I just like seeing her do stuff. When she talks, it's not good. But when she does stuff, it's great. I loved. So you haven't seen captain marvel yet right no i actually really like that movie but seeing her in end game i don't know if it's the character she's playing if she's supposed to be like that because i don't really know the
Starting point is 01:07:54 lore or if it's the actress but every time she talks every time she says or does anything it's like you guys recognize i'm the one above all here right i'm the baddest of the badasses you guys all kind of kiss my ass she's got a holier than than thou kind of attitude and she she reminds me of ronda rousey walking into the ring she's she's got what she's got that bitch face on and she looks real pouty and like she's too good to be there and uh and i just want to see her break stuff and that was cool there's There's a part where Thanos is like, fire the main cannons. And they're like, sir, our army, fire them all. And so they just start shooting the main cannons amongst the giant battle that's going on, killing anyone and everyone. But really, only Thanos' troops, because the good guys have those gold discs above them and shit.
Starting point is 01:08:40 And all of a sudden, the guns stop. And they start shooting at something else you can't see way off into the atmosphere and they're like what are they shooting at and it's something's entering the atmosphere at extremely high speed and i was like what's about time she got here and then she flies and just flies through all of the fucking gunfire and literally takes out the biggest spaceship you've ever seen by flying through it a couple of times like she doesn't stop and shoot it or punch it she's it's um it's like a replay of that scene from star wars where the ship hyper spaces through the other ship sure that's basically how she takes it out and uh and it's it's a
Starting point is 01:09:19 demonstration that she is the most powerful avenger. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Um, she, Thanos, like every time Thanos decides to hit someone, they fly that character. He's like one punch man or something. He punches Captain Marvel and she looks at him like he's stupid. Like you get the head, but yeah. Yeah. And he's used that head, but I'm like everybody. And it always sends them flying. Like they're always trying to pull the gauntlet off of them you know that's what everybody's always after and so so they end up grappling with him a lot where he's got both arms occupied and they do too and his go-to move because he's got a head bigger than a watermelon seemingly is fucking headbutt your ass and it always fucks everybody up and she he head butts her and she just goes didn't even push her or anything like like like in the ufc when someone gets hit hard
Starting point is 01:10:10 oftentimes they'll acknowledge that they've been hit like all right i'm still on my feet but i haven't dealt with a thing here she didn't deal with anything she was just fine yeah yeah so she literally just now the moment i rolled my eyes at was when Captain Marvel has the gauntlet and she needs to get it across the battlefield to the van. And the van was funny. That's a nice little comment. They go,
Starting point is 01:10:39 does anyone see a brown van? And Valkyrie, who's an Asgardian, riding a winged Pegasus goes yes i see a van does she know what a van is i i i had that thought right there was like does she even know what a van is because like she's she's riding a pegasus right now um and and and so and so there's this moment where captain marvel has the gauntlet she needs to get across the battlefield. Like, how will she get there? And I'm thinking to myself, well, she'll probably just walk slowly if she wants to because there's nothing that can fucking stop her. But instead, every female character is like, she's not going alone, girlfriend.
Starting point is 01:11:17 Slay! Did that happen? Yes. Yes, and every single female character is there in one posed group. Like the black ball chick with the spear, Pepper Potts in her iron bitch costume. Scarlet Witch, probably. Scarlet Witch. They're all there.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Every single female character. Not a man to be seen. And they all sort of combine. Even Mantis is there like this. I don't know what the fuck she's going to do. I could beat up Mantis. And they clear the way for Captain Marvel to get across the battlefield with the gauntlet completely unnecessary i didn't see it through that lens what i was a little fresh so kyle mentioned there's a
Starting point is 01:11:55 gauntlet that has to be carried across the field and like you know the last play in football when they do like nine laterals laterals that's kind of how that scene went. Like Spider-Man makes some progress. Black Panther makes some progress. Marvel makes some progress. Yeah, that was a prior scene, but that was a cool scene, I thought. You know, like everybody combining. It seemed gratuitous to me. It's one of the few that I
Starting point is 01:12:18 fuss at. I like that. It was like playing keep away from Thanos. He really wants that fucking thing. I like Thanos' weapon too. That big double sword thing he had. It looked incredibly lethal. It's something a Klingon might have. Yeah, like a back left.
Starting point is 01:12:33 That's what the Klingons have. But this was some sort of hold it in the middle double. It looked like he took the blades out from under the biggest bush hog ever. Yeah. And just went into war with it. There were a bunch of movies in there where I'm like looking, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 01:12:48 a bunch of moments in there where I'm looking at the guy next to me who is a stranger hoping that he doesn't notice I'm crying because I cry it at victory and there were a few moments in there where it's like, yes,
Starting point is 01:13:01 that's what gets to me. Yeah. No, I teared up a little bit too. I had to like, I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to cry. Yeah. No, I teared up a little bit, too. I had to like, I'm not going to cry. I'm not going to cry. I'm going to look up at the ceiling. I'm going to be all right.
Starting point is 01:13:11 All right. I'm good. I'm good now. Yeah. Yeah. I almost cried probably two or three times. I think when Captain America did the crazy hammer thing, maybe then, when Tony Stark died. Yellow Circles.
Starting point is 01:13:26 See, it's not the death. It's not sad yellow circles yeah yeah yeah when everybody showed and the music was very powerful in that moment too um and iron man had a great line so so here's how iron man dies taylor so essentially thanos gets the fucking gauntlet on again like like he he's on the verge of winning again and dr strange looks at tony and he's like there was only one way this could ever work this is the one out of 14 million 500 000 he gives him he pulls up the one and tony runs and attacks thanos and tries to get the glove seemingly but fails and thanos goes i am inevitable and he goes and nothing happens and he's like what the oh shit and you look at tony has pulled all the stones out of his fucking glove and i was like why didn't they ever do that before that's so much easier than getting it off this colossal hand
Starting point is 01:14:17 yeah pluck the stones out and it is the smarter move and tony and now the stones are morphed onto tony's iron man glove which is all nano machines anyway and he goes i and it's like really like tearing him apart to to wield so much power like you know he's not powerful enough to do this thing he goes i am iron man and he snaps his fingers and the entire thanos army vaporizes into dust and then slowly but surely thanos goes into dust and then iron man he's all burned up and shit it kills him apparently using the stones you have to be a superhero just to use the stones and he's really just a kind of superhero suit and it kills him yeah yeah he's just an alcoholic with a lot of money well well now no reason for me to watch i got the test dude i guys it was so it like i'll
Starting point is 01:15:07 watch it at some point what movie's better sad so so the the cornerstone of captain america's story has been his real demon has been that in like 1945 or whatever he he he's stopping a nuclear rocket from like just killing a bunch of people and And he falls in the ice, gets frozen for like 70 fucking years. And he missed out on the love of his life. So when he goes back in time and he has to put all, he has to go back in time and like return the stones to where they were supposed to be everywhere in the universe. And when he gets done with it,
Starting point is 01:15:37 he's like, I'll just stay and live out my, uh, my life with the woman I love. And he does. And so at the very end, they show him like dancing with the woman he loves in he does and so at the very end they show him like dancing with the woman he loves in her house that was that was a good moment that was a really good moment so yeah i give it eight i give it eight out of ten very very strong um uh i thought there
Starting point is 01:15:56 were parts in the beginning that were a little slow for me i felt there were some missed opportunities and i won't say slow i just i didn't like the time travel thing a ton i just really didn't i liked something different um i get that hey one of the stones is a fucking time stone it's not like we're just throwing time travel into the into this thing out of nowhere like one of the stones is the time zone i get that i get that but like there was in that moment where paul rudd's character ant-man is like well is it anything like and then he rattles off every time travel movie that's ever been made including hot tub time machine yes like yes yes this is just like hot tub time machine they're like oh all right well let's do it you know they have to lay out the rules of time travel for the movie so and and you know he's like we have to do this we have
Starting point is 01:16:42 to do this we have to do this are you basing do this, we have to do this. Are you basing all this on Back to the Future? Because that's not how this works. And he's like, Back to the Future? And 12 Monkeys, he didn't say that one. Hot Tub Time Machine, he just names a bunch of them. And so that, it was a clever, funny, and effective way for me to understand Marvel time travel rules. Sure, yeah. I suppose so.
Starting point is 01:17:04 Not a fan of time travel in general in in in movies you know it's been done enough you know i i've seen enough of that i wish if that had been different i'd really love the movie that that's that's really my one critique that and i felt like that five-year period they skipped through this could have been a trilogy and we could have just had that five-year period fucking happen i know i know it's it's we're already like five and a half hours of content just for one movie i get it but still that five and a half hours was or that five years some cool shit happened hawkeye going rogue could have been its own movie that that's it they were like yeah we found some cartel members seemed like they didn't even get their guns out.
Starting point is 01:17:46 Hawkeye? I'm sorry. Yeah, Captain America looked great. And Iron Man still looks good. It works. Hawkeye? I hate to attack someone for aging. We all age.
Starting point is 01:18:01 No one beats Father Time. But I'm looking at him thinking, oh. Father Time doesn't beat anyone quite as hard as they beat Hawkeye. I don't know how old he is either. Because some years are just rougher on you. 36. He's not. He looks 56.
Starting point is 01:18:17 He looks like a wrinkled up cabbage. Well, we have to know how old he is. Watch him be 65 and look fantastic. up cabbage. Well, we have to know how old he is. Watch him be 65 and look fantastic. I'm going to guess he's 40. Indeterminate age. I call him
Starting point is 01:18:32 43, but he looks much older. So his name Jeremy Renner is 48 years old. He looks he looks it and then some. He looks 48. I think I think if you were to go to all the dads at the high school graduation or college graduation they'd he'd be one of the better
Starting point is 01:18:52 looking ones and haircut didn't help that hollywood you're right the hollywood 48 though he's he's not doing well for no yeah like tom cruise looks much better yeah Yeah And he's 53 or something now But if you look at all the guys cheering for their kids In college He'll be one of the better ones Maybe That haircut was awful That was the worst thing about the movie
Starting point is 01:19:17 Was Hawkeye's haircut That shaved on the sides Spiked up in the front Kind of thing whatever that that deal was that was not a good move yeah great movie um i i hope that um any of you well everybody that's listening now either didn't care about spoilers or i have seen the movie but uh um yeah we'll get with some game of thrones talk next uh on pka i hope you guys watch game of thrones i have some strong feelings about that shit um you know it really enjoyed that we'll talk more about it but but yeah avengers was great movie uh
Starting point is 01:19:50 for me it feels like the end of the marvel universe though in a lot of ways and and i'd be okay even if it is um it's definitely the the end of the of the good old days like you know the yeah you got no tony stark no captain america experts have a term for it i think this is actually like the second gen or something oh phase three or whatever and the next phase is about to begin and losing some of the characters they lost like iron man and captain america yeah you've got some starting over to do yeah um captain marvel isn't going to carry much water for me uh the guardians that that group with the guardians plus a thor i'll watch as many of those as you want to fucking uh-huh um i don't care about i've heard of a hulk movie i'm not excited about professor hulk
Starting point is 01:20:39 no not excited about professor i didn't care for professor hulk if i'm being honest i like him i like the duality of the hulk character hyper intelligent peaceable bruce banner and hulk smash ridiculous i mean i was gonna i was starting to think of another adjective hulk um you know uh you know i i like that but then they combine and it's just bruce banner's green ginormous face eating pancakes and on the other hand if there's one character who really looked good and aged well, it was the Hulk. The Hulk looked good. A little gray, but otherwise...
Starting point is 01:21:11 But it was a good salt and pepper. It's who Bruce Banner wishes he was. He's essentially immortal. If you get into the comics, then there's a whole storyline where he's like the last man left on Earth. And it's the whole thing. Yeah, which was weird because he had a broken arm or something with the infinity gauntlet yeah they were burnt you know they powered hulk down uh i saw like a healing factor i don't know professor hulk is as strong
Starting point is 01:21:36 as the i don't know totally is yeah they've powered hulk down every movie since like his since the beginning uh seemingly like he was he was such a force to be reckoned with early on. And then, then every movie he's weaker and weaker and weaker so that the plot makes sense because the whole can beat Thanos one-on-one when Thanos doesn't have that gauntlet, like, and he should have in that first space battle back in the last movie,
Starting point is 01:21:58 but whatever it's, it's made up characters in a made up world with magical made up powers. So whatever makes the story go well. And they certainly did that. They did an amazing job with the Marvel Universe. And I've really enjoyed it. Good movie. BKN 245.

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