Painkiller Already - PKN 475

Episode Date: September 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn475 sup boys how's it going salutation well yeah pretty good i uh i i caught the news that trump i suppose was visiting a gun shop in south carolina weird coincidence it's the same one that sold that gun to uh one of those racist mass shooters i can't remember which one they all blend together but he was in there having a good time and i guess they had a glock there that maybe had trump's face on it i couldn't see a close-up of the gun so i don't know if they it's like for god again it's like a color picture or if it's laser engraved in the grip but he's like close up and it it looks like it so i thought it was kind of decent a laser engraved trump grip on the glock um someone in the reddit comments said that he's local to that.
Starting point is 00:00:45 It's Reddit comments. So take it with a grain of salt that that gun store is local to him. And he's like, they actually have a bunch of those like in stock that people buy. For some reason, I, that's exactly what I saw that I thought this was unique to Trump and they prepared it for his arrival,
Starting point is 00:00:59 but it turns out they have these in stock. I didn't realize it said 45 and stuff like that on the, um, yeah. Yeah. I don't like the look of the stylized guns like that as much not because it's trump like anyone on there i would not like i don't want a portrait on a gun i think that looks very tacky that's super gaudy uh i had a 1911 that had a picture of george costanza in the grip yeah that's funny but it's very tacky i wouldn't i agree with the tacky and gaudy but that's my style you put a tacky picture of george in a six thousand dollar
Starting point is 00:01:32 handgun it's people understand the joke when they see it it's funny yeah but it's it doesn't look this however this however is him being like oh this is a great look for us a trump gun now clearly that's a trashy ass looking gun. It's got the it's not real gold. It's that like titanium oxide or whatever the fuck. But anyway, he said he bought it. And then a guy who was there, you know, one of his cocksuckers was like, oh, I was with Mr. Trump. Oh, and he I assure you, he bought it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 He bought it. He left with that firearm. And then they're like, actually, because of his current indictments he can't purchase firearms or possess them right now and then they're quickly like he no he didn't buy anything no no didn't buy it he didn't buy it so the truth is the truth i seriously doubt he bought it because that'd require him to you know do a little paperwork he'd have to fill out a thing and i just can't see him doing it doing that it just't seem like he's going to go put on his glasses, which I'm sure he really would need to fill out a 4473. He's almost
Starting point is 00:02:27 80. This isn't signing an autograph. This guy is filling out a form. A $7 fee for when his child was the Boy Scouts that he paid out of his charity. The idea that he coughed up enough for a custom Glock as a whimsical purchase. Oh, they'd make it free.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Yeah, I don't think they'd give it free yeah i don't think they'd get but they can't give it uh they'd be like hey post this on truth social and say where you got it it's incredibly unlikely that he bought a gun he's not a gun person he didn't leave with the gun that's like the core part of it yeah they he didn't he didn't leave with a guy he didn't purchase a gun they were just trying to get a little good press and then somebody was like actually you're not allowed to do that and it's like actually i didn't leave with a gun. He didn't purchase a gun. They were just trying to get a little good press. And then somebody was like, actually, you're not allowed to do that. And it's like, actually, I didn't. Just simmer.
Starting point is 00:03:08 That giant magazine they had in there, Kyle, that last picture Zach showed with that huge, probably 100 round. What is it like shooting a handgun with that much weight of bullets under it? It's obviously not practical, right? Yeah, I mean, it's practical for what you use something like that much weight of bullets under it is it even like it's obviously not practical right yeah i mean it's practical for what you use something like that for and that that's like assaulting the car next to you right like it's super practical for that uh but when i shot like it's like holding like four handguns of weight probably right i i couldn't say but the one that i had was before they were made before anyone made any but mine was custom made it was 100 rounds it's the video where i'm by a lake spraying a piece of metal and they're
Starting point is 00:03:49 diverting everywhere um i found it to be like a laser beam that you could put wherever you want and it felt like a star wars blaster that was accurate it felt super practical with the drum mag if you had them hanging off of you, like it's a, it's art. It's not light. It's not like you can be that John wick sort of like moving around, clearing a building with this, but my God, that was so much firepower that you could just like,
Starting point is 00:04:15 yeah, here it is. These two little pieces right here could clunk. Now I have a hundred round machine gun that if it jams, you just super, you clean it, clear it real fast with a Glock. Like I've seen
Starting point is 00:04:25 those used in shootouts in south america uh like gangs killing each other they don't get away because they're just keep shooting you can't miss because you're just shitting direction yeah it's it's it's pretty nasty but we i feel like we glossed over the trump thing it's illegal to hold it right uh that's that's awfully debatable to hold i mean i mean on in a gun store i mean when you're have 91 in felony indictments against you yeah it's well oh jesus christ who cares so so i it's probably worded that he can't possess one and so it would so you would have to decide whether that is possession of a firearm i don't think it is if you're at the gun store on camera on cnn like like if they try to do anything about that that would that would go nowhere that would be awfully silly it isn't in the spirit of the law it has nothing to do with the spirit of the law i don't want to take reddit
Starting point is 00:05:23 comments too seriously i don't want to be some boomer of the law. I don't want to take Reddit comments too seriously. I don't want to be some boomer. They might know something I don't. I get my news from Facebook. But one guy wrote in, said that he was a parole officer. Truth, who knows? It's a Reddit comment. And he's like, for a normal person, this would absolutely have you in violation of your parole and back in jail. And they brought up some other lesser celebrities, like Sam Bankman Freed, the guy who
Starting point is 00:05:46 stole all that money. He didn't get off. He hasn't had trial yet and he's in jail right now waiting trial. You're full of shit. You already put it past tense so don't act like you know what you're talking about. But he's in jail
Starting point is 00:06:02 right now for like vaguely threatening a potential witness. The shit that Trump gets away with almost daily. And then another parole officer wrote, he was like, this stuff has a lot of leeway. And where I'm from, just touching a gun like that would get you in no trouble at all. So that was the spectrum of answers I saw. Yeah, well, I mean, it runs up a chain of bureaucrats is what it is. This isn't a sort of thing where
Starting point is 00:06:25 a law enforcement officer starts so you would have you would have like a i would imagine that he has some sort of case officer that he he talked to from the marshal service or something about his indictments and what they meant like it's not it wouldn't just be his lawyers informing him it would be all right mr trump here are the rules that that would have happened at some point he wasn't supposed to touch that gun but the nature of how he touched it why he touched it where he touched it it's just not in the he what this isn't someone who's uh who's a who might be a felon who's trying to get a weapon and do anything with it this is the president of the united states on a campaign uh stop He's showing everyone that he supports the second amendment. Yeah, that's all it is.
Starting point is 00:07:09 He's doing a photo op, being like, I understand guns. I like guns. Trust me. It's like when you shot a gun. You see how he held the gun? Never ever. Although he's presenting it, which is fair, though, I guess,
Starting point is 00:07:22 because it is that gaudy-ass Donald Trump gun. I want him to hold it, though. I want him to hold it kind of dude he's a new yorker there's no way that he has any gun experience like at all his kids actually hunt because i've seen them holding like zebra tails and stuff his kids do but i don't think i've ever seen trump holding a gun even for a photo op other than like look at my face on this gun and i don't think you mean it this way i agree with what you're saying but it's not a dig like you're you're allowed to not be into guns you could even be pro second amendment i think he is even though guns aren't his personal yeah yeah he's on i remember he was like uh i like to take
Starting point is 00:08:01 the guns first and ask questions second like When he was president, he said that. He's not a gun guy. He's not steeped in Second Amendment, don't tread on me culture. But he's pro-Second Amendment. Definitely pro-Second Amendment. He's better than the alternatives on the Second Amendment. He looks awkward holding a gun. He's holding it too far out in front of his body.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Take the picture like i agree i mentioned something about this briefly like when i see people hold surfboards like there's a you can tell if someone's comfortable with it or not he doesn't look comfortable holding a gun fair what is it that you guys have realized that you look awkward doing kind of like that when you've tried could be a sport running jumping i was gonna say jumping throwing you're not a good thrower i'm not i have double vision so i always struggled to like throw and catch and therefore i'm just not as practiced as other people i went to like i won't call it a wedding uh friends i know got eloped and then afterwards they did kind of a celebration. They're like, man, we got eloped and had kids.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And we did all this stuff in such fast forward. I want to get both families together and do kind of reception. And I was invited. Anyway, people were out there throwing the football around. And I embarrassed myself. So there's an answer to your question. Oh, I would have. Football's that special.
Starting point is 00:09:22 We've talked about it a bunch of times. But football's just so weird to throw it's it's not a ball it's not a fucking ball okay i don't know what that is but it ain't a ball it's two cones stuck together that ain't yeah and kyle can i'll speak on kyle's behalf i played dodgeball with him he can throw throw they were beanbags they're not footballs but you know like kyle and joe lozano in particular stood out as people who were throwers. And I did. Like baseball style throwing.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Like, yeah, I used to never. I'm very comfortable throwing a baseball shit like that. But a football, I feel like I'm going to throw a duck. I'm not going to do it well. It didn't help that my younger brother, just a couple years younger, was the varsity high school quarterback. So he was very good at throwing the football but i always i always locked in i'm like okay but i'm the one who's significantly better at what are their letterman jackets look like does it is it a cool jacket i felt like ours
Starting point is 00:10:14 were lame they were green i i know he got one but i don't think outside anymore outside like even after the games they'd wear, they might wear it back, but I never saw him wear it ever, even in high school. When you were in high school, was that a thing? The guys who had, especially letterman football or baseball, a major sport, they'd wear the jackets? A couple guys did, and I think they got bullied out of it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:10:40 In my school? I want the floor. Dude, letterman jackets were the bomb. Boy, girl, if you earned a varsity letter, you wore that shit. I didn't swim until my senior year in high school. So rather than buy the one with the leather sleeves and everything, I got a varsity windbreaker with the letter on it. It's an alternative.
Starting point is 00:11:00 But it was like, dude, I'm getting this fucking. There's like three months of school left. I wore that shit until it was too, dude, I'm getting this fucking... There's like three months of school left. I wore that shit until it was too hot to wear anymore. I was like, I've only been a little bit. Did you notice what I'm wearing? Everyone did.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Yeah, you stink. Stop it. And some people would wear it every single day. They absolutely would. It's like, look, this is my fucking cape. It goes with everything. It lets like, look, this is my fucking cape. It goes with everything. It lets you know who I am and what I'm about and why I'm here. And like it was a whole thing.
Starting point is 00:11:31 But they were ugly. They were green and black. What were your colors? I think the jackets were blue and white. Okay. There might have been another color in there. I'm trying to picture it. Yeah, kind of like Kentucky.
Starting point is 00:11:44 Yeah. Okay. Ours are blue and white. I'm sorry. They it. Yeah. Kind of like Kentucky. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. There's a blue and white. I'm sorry. They're red and white or red and black. You could choose. And,
Starting point is 00:11:50 uh, red and black is always a good look. Yeah. Yeah. Depends how it's split up. Red and white could look nice and clean. I saw an Alabama fan. I guess it was his birthday and you could tell he was an Alabama fan because everyone,
Starting point is 00:12:00 his family was wearing an Alabama shirt and he cut the cake and removed the slice and it had purple and gold colors on the inside which is lsu and he like a child smashed the cake in front of everyone and walked away it was great no one got cake because he's like no he looked at his first slice saw the purple and gold dropped it and, and mushed the whole cake, like smashed it like a gorilla. Like, ah! What a piece of shit that guy is. Actually, I liked it. I liked that move because they were all laughing at him.
Starting point is 00:12:35 They all thought it was real funny that we've made. Not the people who want a cake. It's my fucking birthday party. You fucking roll up with, I don't know, oh, if you show up with a Dodgers cake at my birthday, I'm not even roll up with a, I don't know. If you show up with a Dodgers cake at my birthday, I'm not even that big of a fan, but I'm going to tell you, I might make a scene about a Dodgers cake at my birthday party.
Starting point is 00:12:54 And I don't want a birthday party. I won't do that. Don't fucking do that. I think you made the wrong move. It's your intent more than anything. You know what I mean? It's that you intend disrespect. I'm going to send you a Dodgers cake. Socially, he could have giggled, said you got me,
Starting point is 00:13:05 and it would have been a much better play. On a related note, you've probably seen this because you're on Reddit maybe as much as me. It's hard to be on as much as me. And anyway, a couple getting married, like ushers or something, walk in with a tall wedding cake. I'll call it four stories or something. And it tips over and slams
Starting point is 00:13:26 to the ground and the bride is like upset by this not like a dick but like like like something horrible had just happened to her and the groom grabs a fork takes a scoop out and has like the first bite while it's still on the floor but it's not dirty or anything well there's so much it can't all get dirty exactly and like all of reddit praised this guy and i felt the same way it was like this guy told her everything's gonna be okay yeah that's like it's like honey there's not enough for everybody there's plenty for us what are you just sad about this whole thing's about us fuck them hey best part tell them how delicious delicious it was
Starting point is 00:14:05 and no one will ever even know. That's the best cake I've ever had. The best floor cake. It maybe is the best floor cake. I've seen that. I always thought that was a smooth move that guy made. And it was clear that it was so much cake. It reminded me,
Starting point is 00:14:20 you ever watch the cartoon Duck Tales growing up? It's basically Scrooge McDuck's nephews. But there was a scene, you know, he's extravagantly rich. And they had like a chocolate sundae room or something. Like I just remember the three nephews eating a chocolate sundae. And each scoop of ice cream was like the size of a dog. Like enormous. Just, just, just, just.
Starting point is 00:14:40 And I always thought it's kind of dirty. It's like all over. It's a dog size you know like lemur 60 pounds that's where that that show the intro to that show gave me just a confusing lesson in physics where he would dive into that solid gold pit of coins and he would see the family guy like i have seen the family guy where peter th his neck. It's just not a liquid. It's just many, many pieces of a solid.
Starting point is 00:15:14 See every once in a while, I'll see at every limb. I'll like every, every so often I'll see memes on Twitter of like zoomers posting shit of like South park or family guy, just like a little short. And then like people in the comments who clearly like are 20 years old are like, actually, did you know that family guy has a lot of problematic moments or South Park has a lot of problems? And so like then the person who posted it will be like, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:15:44 And then they'll link something, like one of the million funny bits Family Guy had, and they'll be like, oh my God, I didn't know. And it's like, so you guys get all of your Family Guy knowledge from Twitter, three-second videos? It's shocking to these people that South Park and Family Guy used to be wild, and not in a bad way, in a hilarious way. Shocking to me that you would post a bunch of
Starting point is 00:16:06 clips of a show you've never seen and then this is how we feel when you've never seen terminator rocky or jaws or whatever i've seen jaws i genuinely feel like some movies are are just part of americana part of pop culture part human culture. I would argue that some of these things that you haven't yet experienced are part of human culture. I don't like apple pie. I don't think it's worth eating. I would rather eat maybe a peach cobbler. I think that's a better dessert
Starting point is 00:16:36 and the same amount of calories. But if you'd never had an apple pie, I would be like, what the fuck are you doing? I've had apple pie. I've tried all the doing? I've had apple pie. I've tried all the pies. I've just been like, oh, I believe that. I believe you guys might be able to outdrink me,
Starting point is 00:16:51 but you can't handle your sugar. Weak ass fucks. You would dominate us in a sugar off. We'd be like, our fingers are getting numb and Woody would be like, I'm pushing through. Put me in coach i'll get his pie dude speaking of videos i've seen online i have come around and i think
Starting point is 00:17:14 it was a very bad idea to give britney spears full control of her money because have you seen the clip of her dancing around swinging knives? Yeah. I didn't send that one to you today. That's a fresh one. I bet you got recommended that because I sent you the one of her in the pinkish red bikini. Did you notice there's dog shit in the floor, in the background? No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Apparently, she just lets her dog poop inside. But there are two adorable dogs that get real close to her and the dogs are concerned. Yeah. I mean, look. Like, look at those dogs. They're like even a big deal. Brittany, please. Where's your work?
Starting point is 00:17:54 So what do you not like about this? The knives. Look at her. You don't like that she has knives. No, I don't like that. She's clearly like not. She doesn't seem well. Oh, so she's dancing around with not many 40 year old erratic things. I mean, look, how many 40 year old house moms do you know with that sort of balance and pizzazz?
Starting point is 00:18:15 Yeah, I think the key takeaway, Taylor, is that she still has a pretty flat tummy. She's fucking hot. OK, look at this. I think it works. I'm just worried worried they're so scared camera and the tripod there's a dead man she could have aged a lot worse she's that's true she's probably quite good she's about 40 or so um probably 40 yeah she's got to be yeah but the fact that her dad and like the people around her
Starting point is 00:18:46 before this were like we get it bad look but she's kind of a lunatic she she's she's a kind of a crazy person and then now she's dancing around with knives and posting insane things on all her social media it doesn't i don't it doesn bother me. I don't think it's all that crazy. I think she's just having a good time. She's enjoying the attention, which I'm sure she always has. She looks healthy, and she looks happy. I can't tell if it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:19:16 I think that there's a lot of people that have always wanted to tear Brittany down and tell her what... rewrite her history, but she's writing her own herstory i've seen a bunch of people play and follow this path before miley cyrus had a i'm a wild sex craze whatever really she's crazy like a fox she made a lot of money in that period of time and now she's the rest of her life only doing things she likes um kesha i can't tell it everyone's like dude she's the rest of her life only doing things she likes. Kesha.
Starting point is 00:19:45 I can't tell it. Everyone's like, dude, she's such a crazy, druggy slut. Yeah. That, or she plays one on TV.
Starting point is 00:19:51 I can't tell. And neither can you. There's a, I had a third example before I started my rant. Oh, Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore got up there, showed her tits to David Letterman and had this really slutty state.
Starting point is 00:20:05 You were probably seven, but I swear it happened. I have no memory of this. You might not have been born. Anyway, but yeah, she had a similar sort of like, look, I'm a fucking Hollywood slut. I get around and look, give me this attention. Aren't I beautiful? And she did get attention. And I presume attention is money in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And now she's a more settled down adult person. So Brittany, dancing around with knives. I only know what she shows me. For all I know, she's like fucking Fido press record. I'm about to do something funny. And then afterwards, she's normal again. Could be.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I mean, maybe she's the most sane person out there oh this is you can show that zach it's uh drew barrymore showing her boobs to david letterman but there's so much cropped you miss the context seems like such a little thing i watched miley cyrus piss in a parking lot like i i i can't you have to understand this was um what the fuck is this show what was this late night with david letterman like this was a really bit this is probably the second most popular nighttime show whatever it was a big deal at the time yeah back at the time there were only three tv channels and this was you know a half of the audience or something no one's online there. There's no internet. Yeah, I get it. I mean, I don't know. I don't think anything
Starting point is 00:21:27 really shocks me anymore. I see artists pissing on the crowd and showing them their pussies and doing all sorts of crazy stuff. Vomiting on people. Ozzy ate a bat's head 50 years ago. Is that true? I mean, I definitely heard it.
Starting point is 00:21:43 It flew down and he fucking bit its head off. Wasn't there like a fact check on that where they're like, he didn't bite a bat's head off and swallowed. He bit it off and spit it out. There's like a Snopes style fact check. It's like, you know the spirit
Starting point is 00:22:00 of what you did. I have two. One you guys will have heard of and one you you haven't all right wow that was a good move for him don't you love that the whole world thought marilyn manson removed his bottom two ribs so he could suck his own dick that was like a viral fucking misinformation but and you guys probably don't know who jerryicoli is. No. Richard Gere had the same rumor about him, but they said that there was a kink where people put gerbils up their hamsters up their ass.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Yeah. And then the hamster died in there and they got sick or something like that. Jerry Penicoli, when I was a kid, was like a local guy on the news. And just everyone in my school, all the parents, everybody just knew this guy did gerbil play. That's hilarious because that is the only thing I've ever known about Richard gear.
Starting point is 00:22:51 That was like a middle school rumor of ours that like, you know, Richard gear. And it's like, who's that? It's like some old actor guy, but he puts gerbils in his ass. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:22:58 wow, that's, that's crazy. I'm going to go forward in my life knowing this is true. Those stupid, like middle school you know richard gear put something in his act what were the other ones i mean oh fuck about the celebrities yeah yeah there was marilyn manson i remember that being a middle school thing where it's like he had his ribs removed so he could suck his own dick i do remember to this
Starting point is 00:23:24 day it's one of the only things I know about him. Other than the first time I saw him on an album cover, I was like, that is the ugliest woman I've ever seen. He's pretty well spoken. I like it when he gets interviewed and they try to gotcha him,
Starting point is 00:23:40 but he's actually smarter than the average bear. I think they're gotcha him and those grand juries these days. Oh, I think I'm not up to date. He assaulted. And yeah, we're not talking about Russell Brand.
Starting point is 00:23:52 It turns out shocker. Marilyn Manson. Okay. Not a good guy to be in a relationship with. I buy it. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely,
Starting point is 00:24:02 he doesn't need any women. Not since he had, not since he had those ribs removed. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely. Well, he doesn't need any women. Not since he had those ribs removed. I wonder if that ever, like, I'm sure obviously stuff like that got back to him. But, like, what's your first response when stuff like that gets back to you? The gerbils or the ribs? The gerbils or the ribs. I would rather have the rumor that I had my ribs removed to suck my own dick then i was committing animal cruelty to get off for sure yeah i just don't understand that whole process like i guess it gets in there and
Starting point is 00:24:32 fights for its life and that feels good but i think it's going to be biting and tearing yeah it's gonna like game of thrones its way out of your rectum and yeah there's just no like maybe if and this is a game of thrones yeah remember that that rat bucket that they put on the guy yes and then they hold the flame under it and he's like no no that's a real historical technique slowest way to torture i know it is yeah it's yeah i mean they like they didn't have internet they didn't have tv movies you have a lot of time throughout the day to be like how about this for the lark? And you know that when he showed that to the
Starting point is 00:25:08 head torturer, he was like, I know I knew I made you my second in command for a reason. Yeah. God damn it. You've done it again. You please. It's like madman. God damn it, Don. This is way better than my idea of
Starting point is 00:25:23 setting the canoe on fire. They just kept splashing it out. I'm terrible at this. Well, see, your approach of beheading them and then screaming at the head for answers isn't helping. I know you're convinced. Oh, do you remember that? There was some dude who got beheaded, maybe in France. That's usually a good bet they love beheading people where before
Starting point is 00:25:48 he was beheaded he was like i am going to blink as long as i can until you know i can no longer blink anymore and the person like after like was waiting by the bucket to like grab his head immediately and apparently the guy who looked at it said that he blinked for like multiple seconds until he stopped. And so I don't know if that's true, but it's horrifying. I wish I could, I need to find the video because I can't.
Starting point is 00:26:19 I don't think so. That's scary. On Reddit, some guy was doing street interviews and he found a person that had died. Did I talk about this already? I don't think so. Did you see it already, Kyle? No.
Starting point is 00:26:30 I don't know what you're talking about now. Okay, so this person had been dead for like a minute and a half, I'll call it, and he loved it. He absolutely found peace. He understood the process. He just felt like his job had been done. He had found peace and satisfaction, and it was good. It was like, I don't want to say joy. Someone with a near-death experience.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Yeah, but it was fairly long, and he remembered it well. And he also had the gift of gab so he could articulate himself. long and he remembered it well and he also had the gift of gab so he could articulate himself and he was brought back to life and it took him years to get over the fact that now he has to live it was like he was done like he had achieved victory of some sort yeah and now he has responsibilities and just the trials and turmoils of life and maybe kind of longed for death was it like a head injury or was it like he died on the table at the hospital and then like 90 seconds i don't remember that well i think it might have been automotive but i'm not sure okay but still like being dead for 90 that's gotta fuck with you you know there was a girl who uh who went under the ice in a lake or
Starting point is 00:27:45 something like that and she was under the water for like 30 minutes or something i and i it might be an hour she was under the water for so long that it's unbelievable and they got her out and brought her back and she didn't have any stories what i think is that in some some circumstances when you go when you're dying or your brain at least thinks you're dying or feels like it's dying is it's just flooding with all sorts of chemicals that probably feel great because your body's good at doing things like that if you've ever been in a fight you don't feel the little cuts and stuff that happen when you're ripping and tearing and wrestling with somebody on the street you're like oh look at that a zipper like like you don't even know that you're hurt because your body says
Starting point is 00:28:27 all right you don't need to feel pain for the next five minutes get it done if you get cut like there's a there's a reason your body would would protect you from that during a fight like i've always been curious about that like death chemical thing because it's like what would the evolutionary imperative be the biological imperative of like caring about your transition through death you know it's like why would your why would there be a mechanism by which it alleviated that because it doesn't make you also shit yourself already yourself and it's not because there's a mechanism for it it's because you're dying and you release and relax.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Perhaps the same is true for all those stores of chemicals that your brain is holding wherever the fuck. Where does it hold those things? Oh, a ton of endorphins. Where are you keeping them, bitch? Show me. Show me this endorphin tank. I want a fucking implant. I'll press it like a prostate for joy.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I want a pump. Penile pumps? I want one right here in my temple. I go, a little dopamine right there. I didn't put together the point you were making. Were you saying that death hurts a lot? Or there's no reason to have a mechanism for releasing that? meaning like like most of the time like the reason that your adrenaline's going and like you're in a fight and it's not letting you recognize and hone in on a little cut from a
Starting point is 00:29:50 zipper is because like it's trying to get you to survival like all of this all of evolution is trying to push us towards procreation and like so i was curious like yeah procreation and survival and so it's like what would the evolutionary mechanism be where it suddenly cared about like oh the organism is dying we have to make this a smooth transition to death because in my head it's like what by that point like your body's like would just be openly shutting down because it's like well we did everything we were supposed to do hopefully there's no there's no reason for it to feel nice like it it like how i watched a video all of the i watched a video about all the sort of evolutionary problems our bodies have with them because of the direction that they took and you can't go back and fix that you've already made
Starting point is 00:30:38 the eye so you know there's a blind spot in our vision because there's a hole in the middle of uh to allow the optic nerves to go through our the lens or the iris or whatever the fuck through the eyeball so there's just a blind spot and then the achilles tendon they went on about how you know this is it if you lose this that's it now you die and like one thing after another i found it really interesting pinky toes the um the the um cephalopod yeah you They're apparently vestigial. Yeah, you don't need those. I cut mine off weeks ago. The pinky toe is one that you really don't need.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Okay, that's just the opposite of Kyle's point. But on the path of... What I found interesting was that cephalopods, octopuses, and squids, they are completely unrelated to us. They evolved their own eyes from scratch. And nothing. Yes. But theirs are better because
Starting point is 00:31:33 their optic nerve doesn't go through the middle of the eye. It comes around from the back or something. It's just built better. And they said that there's no way ours can ever evolve the other way because there's no path for that evolutionarily. We're just always going to be cursed with this unless we go and tinker
Starting point is 00:31:50 with our genes. Get some cephalopod eyes. Whole new kind of eye. That's what I want. I think they're doing that right now. I think it's crazy to think that they're not making super kids right now. I bet the first... I bet they're on generation 5 or 6
Starting point is 00:32:06 or maybe 560, because it's not like you've got to wait for your first super kid to mature to adulthood. Yeah, it worked. No, you keep making babies, so there are always new ones coming out. I swear to God, that Cuban program that created Yoel Romero has to be
Starting point is 00:32:21 a real thing. He just doesn't, I truly believe that. I don't know if China's doing it, but I do think that in general, China has lax scientific ethics and that's going to allow them, that's going to give them certain advantages like super babies.
Starting point is 00:32:38 Yeah. For sure. But when I was a kid in the 80s, we were told the Russians were breeding super soldiers. I don't think that's true anymore. I've seen them captured by the Ukrainians and they don't look that super. No, it seems like they were way over their skis predicting any sort of super soldiers in the 80s, as we probably are now. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Maybe the Chinese have like some six foot eight giant massive guy who's three times the strength of Brock Lesnar. That's not what you want. But he dies. That's a little bit smarter, right? Or a guy who's like makes more blood, red blood cells. A guy with a bigger spleen. You can make a human being with a bigger spleen and slightly different lungs. Like all of a sudden you've got this this incredible athlete that can just go and go and go.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Your spleen stores red blood cells for your okay oxygen they do that we should just grow organs we should get really good at that that seems like a good idea i mean really we should figure out how to increase penis size right that's the that's all that's the we like uh we crack into china's code and that's all they've been doing they've got 70 years of data and it's like, but how do we make penis big? We figure out how to grow
Starting point is 00:33:51 perfect liver and heart and kidney right away, but penis is so hard. If only. If only. And then, you know what? I saw a pill today today the name is unpronounceable it's like pl-233 or something but it simulates exercise so a lot of the weight loss pills that that exist kind of just ruin your appetite make food repulsive stuff like that all right cool diarrhea this one builds lean muscle mass and increases your metabolism as if you were exercising yeah i got a bottle that uh
Starting point is 00:34:31 right there actually it's called tremble on they give us the race horses it makes you want to fuck everyone on the bus and those are not good people but still i got biceps that's why i like people are jumping in on this ozempic thing yeah wait for the next level of it where it's like because i was reading apparently ozempic is like one of those like makes you not want to eat lose yeah there's a bunch of weight like an unbelievably strong appetite suppressant causes you to shed a bunch of water weight but don't go in on that if there's something around the corner that's going to be like oh you can lose weight and
Starting point is 00:35:09 not lose any muscle like you just like you didn't buy a plasma screen tv in 2000 like that's what ozempic probably is right now there's going to be like five way better things in the next 10 years the only way to do that is literally testosterone. That's one of the best parts about it. It's one of the many advantages that unnatural bodybuilders have over natural ones is during the cut, right? They all cut all that water and fat off at the end to make what they've built look better, but it's way easier to retain uh muscle during a cut because there's a ratio for how many every pound of fat costs you x amount of muscle um and you're trying to but it's it's based on a curve that's based on your diet and activity and and your metabolism
Starting point is 00:35:58 just how you're built and stuff so you're trying to keep it as close to the edge as possible you don't want to lose any muscle so the if you you can be big anything you want more testosterone during the cut to like hang on do not lose that muscle yeah isn't that what they say like big lean natural pick two sure like you can't be it depends on how big you want to be i guess if what your version of big is i saw burt chrysler on stage everybody everybody gives him a lot of shit for being alcoholic and really unhealthy but he looked strong he looked really strong he's definitely on the joe rogan cocktail whatever that is along with his drinking i don't think he's really curtailed that much but i don't think he'd want to rumble with burt chrysler he really does look like a big, strong guy. But you said he was really healthy.
Starting point is 00:36:46 No, Tom Segura. That's who you said. Yeah, that guy. Yeah, Segura. I think he's also on the cocktail. He is. I heard Burt Chrysler talk about it, and he's like, I am really strong. A lot of this is muscles.
Starting point is 00:36:58 I am so strong. I benched once 225, and I'm like, not that strong and i can do that like get get off your high horse fuck shit a lot of people bench 225 yeah it's like 225 is like like that's solid like that's that's a good look you don't you don't do that if you don't work now you never walk into a gym and just throw up 225 on your first day you're gonna hurt yourself like that's an impressive like you've worked for that oh but you know how long he also weighs like way more than it seemed like it was 23 like he's not uh theo vaughn or one of those really skinny guys going in and being like i weigh 160 and i put up 225 easy peasy it's like all right that's that's pretty impressive you're 298 or 310 or whatever burt kreischer is and it's like
Starting point is 00:37:51 yeah maybe maybe don't brag on the 225 right right i used to joke like they say you're strong if you can bench your body weight so i'm trying to get down to 110 all right i found the picture that's just like the worst way to be healthy. Let's see this. Oh, I saw this same picture because I live on Reddit like me. He looks pretty good, actually. I think he looks really strong.
Starting point is 00:38:20 You know what's funny? He looks pretty good. The shirt's not tight, but from the neck down. From the neck up, he looks pretty good the shirt's not tight but from the neck down from the neck up he's 85 the same oh yeah i don't care about his head i'm talking i just think his arms look tremendously he looks very strong i agree but a lot of times when someone gets you know fit from the neck down a lot of beautiful things happen to their face like they just get a little more glamorous they're oh he hasn't lost very much fat yeah he has defined deltoids so i took that as a body fat loss
Starting point is 00:38:52 but that's a testosterone increase is he juicing is he on t yeah they all are like all of rogan's buddies have definitely jumped on that train with him because they all don't look by themselves anymore they're they're turning into this like muscle army it's really funny muscle who else like i don't think the other really that core group is the main thing now theo's like like um but it's really just the core group they're like burt and uh tom segura for sure and uh and brendan shop has always just been on something, I think. I honestly think in that last episode, Burt thinks he looks like Israel Asanjou.
Starting point is 00:39:32 His self-impression is that they're two peas in a pod. No, Israel couldn't take him. He's not even in his weight class. He'd get destroyed by Burt's powerful facts. He's got two punches in him, probably. I don't think I told you.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Jackie and I watched all three Lord of the Rings movies extended edition. You know how much fucking content that is? Yes, I do. An enormous amount. It's like 11 hours. I watched an extra feature. Yeah, I have no idea. The third movie is four
Starting point is 00:40:03 hours and 40 minutes. many times does it end four times it ends it ends so many times i love lord of the rings and when i get to the end of the return of the king extended i'm like guys you gotta pace it here we gotta we gotta end it we can't have frodo waking up in bed again. There's that one scene where it seems like they're wrapping it up, and then Frodo takes a while to jot down his memoirs
Starting point is 00:40:33 mid-ending, and then there's a scene where him and Bilbo are in the carriage. Bilbo's back. He's like, and it's a pretty good joke or whatever, but he's like, I'd very much like to hold that little ring of mine again, and Frodo's like, oh, I'm sorry. I lost it. It's pretty good joke or whatever he's like i'd very much like to hold that old ring of mine again and and frodo's like oh i'm sorry i lost it it's like all right if you're in if you had two endings or three you had you'd have time for this but you don't you have four or five so you don't have time for this this is it this i don't know if it's in the theatrical cut to be
Starting point is 00:40:59 fair i don't know how many because i don't watch that i watch theatrical in the theaters and then i bought the extended and i watch those every two or three years because i'm an asshole i've i don't watch that i watch theatrical in the theaters and then i bought the extended and i watch those every two or three years because i'm an asshole i don't know what the what's in and out i know the limba spread scene and the fucking three hairs from her golden head scene like that's all extended and it's great and it's character building and you need that right before they you know sell off and the fellowship splits like it's a great moment i'm glad that that uh that that scene exists you know there's hours of extra extra footage i've watched every minute no no no no there's hours of extra extra footage that no one has ever seen that not the dvd extras they keep talking about so in the era of like the nolan cut of this and the so-and-so cut of that and then
Starting point is 00:41:43 being really popular and the fans being like yeah we'll pay 80 for a blu-ray set make the extra long version we'll do it again they've been talking about getting peter jackson to go back to the many hours of footage that he has over you know over the course of those two movies and beef them up even further like add another 20 25 minutes to each film and i've seen stills of like these scenes that you don't it's not like oh this is a little bit more of the warg scene or this is a little bit more of um saruman's speech no it's a whole new scene there's somewhere else with a whole group of people and and it's like that's a costume i've never seen before i've never seen that helmet
Starting point is 00:42:23 that person's wearing like i i've i've seen the movies enough to know, like. Sure. I watched all the Weta Workshop extra stuff, of course. Me too. All of it. I love it. I like the, I've watched them with the Peter Jackson commentary. I love all of it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 I just think Frodo took a little too much credit for being the hero when, in reality, he tried to keep the ring and rule the world. I think that you... I don't think it's that Frodo gets too much credit. I think it's that often Sam doesn't get enough. And then some people go too far and are like, Sam is the true hero. And it's like, no. Sam had the ring for minutes
Starting point is 00:43:03 and it already started to like pull on him. And of course, just by, by vicinity, it starts to pull on you as well. Tell me about the symptoms of the pool. Cause I don't remember it like that. So basically when,
Starting point is 00:43:15 uh, when Frodo went up and had his encounter with Shelob and the spider and Shelob injected him and killed him or killed him to what sam thought and sam went up and and took the ring and everything and then just having the ring for that short time as the ring bearer as sam was he already had a hard time like giving it back to frodo once he pulled frodo from from the tower out of grishnack's uh clutches who was the orc who dragged him up there, started the riot. Sam Elflord. I must not have read the room quite right
Starting point is 00:43:48 because the way I saw it, he was freely giving it to him, but Frodo was freaked the fuck out when he realized he didn't have it. He was taking it back. Sam was just a little put off at how desperate Frodo was. He was put off by it because of
Starting point is 00:44:03 the mimicry of what frodo was like there compared to how gollum had been the whole time that that frantic give me this like just like nothing is alive in his mind but desire i like the plot in the film and i was like calling him out to jackie she was we were just cracking each other up while watching it. Like there's a big troll with a giant hammer. And she's like, knock, knock, motherfuckers. Which is really out of character for her. Anyway, Sam carries Frodo and has no effect from the ring, it would seem. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:38 So why they didn't just put that ring necklace on a chicken and carry the chicken all the way to Mordor, I'll never know. But it would have worked fine. So it was pulling on Sam as well then like it was it's just like Sam should get a lot of credit for that marching him up Mount Doom in the end and really Sam was the one who like it was like Frodo throw it in the fire as they're doing all that and Frodo does his final heel turn into being Gollum and it's only an actual fight with Gollum that kind of accidentally gets a guy, or at least in the movies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I think Sam is the hero. He is a hero. I think that he is the main hero because of some of the feats that he did based on his... So like like fighting you have pound for pound number one all right so i don't think you can judge the feats of sam on the same the same way you would judge this the feats of aragorn because no sam would never walk into that
Starting point is 00:45:37 cave and take over the army of the dead and show up on a pirate ship he can't do those things but he did face down sheilalob a a great ancient terror that like saruman would not have gone in there if you told saruman to go up there and deal with she-lob like he wouldn't have gone there everyone was afraid of that i think they said in the mountain and he and he like bullied it and like like i think there might be something in the book about how long she-lob ran off and healed after that. Like how traumatic that injury was. It's either in the, what's the super nerdy?
Starting point is 00:46:11 It's either Silmarillion or it's in the book. I read the book when I was in jail, but I probably have. What's that super nerdy and Taylor's like. What's that thing only gay guys I just think that him being the one who had extra water for example he had done the same thing Frodo had but with less
Starting point is 00:46:34 him being the one who had to go up in there and frighten all the goblins in a goddamn tower and I wish that they beefed that scene up because it's not displayed well they make it seem like he scares them off because they're so stupid that a shadow frightens them. They are terrified because they do not see Samwise.
Starting point is 00:46:52 They don't see his shadow either. They see a mighty, monstrous warrior coming at them because he has the ring and maybe because he believes in himself. I'd love for them to beef that up. I'd love for him to moment where whatever he believes himself to be like whatever's inside of him that he's exuding that visually and they see like a paladin walking up the stairs covered in armor eight feet tall glowing with a golden shining hammer it might just be in the love that that that they say like or when sam tells frodo like he like i wish i was a great elf warrior to help you out here, Frodo.
Starting point is 00:47:27 And then after he rescues Frodo from that, Frodo refers to him as a great elf warrior. Yeah, he references those storybooks, the heroes in those old storybooks. I love it. Imagine this at the beginning. Imagine at the very beginning, Fellowship, he's flipping through one of those storybooks, and you see the big elf character.
Starting point is 00:47:44 And then you get that callback when he's going up the tower it's him yeah he is the giant that you get that'd be your captain america hammer moment you'd be like yeah i won't compare it to that it had been so long since i had seen lord of the rings in my memory it was the story of eight people escorting Frodo to Mordor. Boom. It turns out about halfway through the first movie, they split up. So through five-sixths of the movie, probably more running time because they get longer. It's really Frodo and Sam going solo. And I had forgotten how essential the role of the other six seven people whatever former is
Starting point is 00:48:28 dead the other six um played like they had the defeat defeat sauron and they had the defeat sauron oh which brings me to a pet peeve that jackie and i share there are only like 13 significant characters in this film sauron and Sauron are named way too close to each other. That's fair. Way too close. I'm not saying everyone has to have a unique first letter, but go on.
Starting point is 00:48:57 The one that's a man, a wizard, is Saruman. And I have to think like that every single time. Saruman. Okay. That's a good man and i have to think like that every single time because i'm sorry man okay that's that's right there with super nate because they're so close it's terrible that's true yeah he should have made those names a little like um i found game of thrones names to be difficult but in fairness what are there like 57 main characters in that show?
Starting point is 00:49:25 All white guys with beards? Yeah, and they're all white guys with beards. And you're going to have some names that are similar when you have that many names. Yeah. But there's only like 13. Yeah, it can't keep up. I'm watching HBO's Rome.
Starting point is 00:49:39 There's only two seasons of it. It's such a great show. I really like it. So it got canceled and you can tell they had to rush from one plot point to the next without like doing what was supposed to be between occasionally and you're like whoa what happened there what happened is they got canceled they had to hurry up and finish the story but they didn't i i've read about it and apparently it is so you you focus on two roman soldiers a lot of the time, Pullo and Gaius or something like that,
Starting point is 00:50:06 but they're fictional. There were people with those names who did things, but not the things that these characters do. And they sort of, like Julius Caesar even says, he's like, those men found my gold. They survived when 10,000 men died. They washed ashore in the storm, and they found my greatest enemy.
Starting point is 00:50:25 They've got powerful gods on their side. I'm not messing with them because they keep doing these ridiculous things. But I really do like it, and I read that it's a really accurate portrayal of not only the historical events mostly, like when Caesar did this and when Pompey did that and how the battle went. Pompey at one point draws in the sand how he lost being outnumbered tremendously.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And I guess Roman life and the decor of the houses, it's interesting to see them eat to me because they basically just eat bread and olive oil all the fucking time. Every scene you die good bread this and they're sopping it down with olive oil and everybody's eating that shit
Starting point is 00:51:06 um it's a rough there's a lot of titties and then there's a lot of gore there's too much torture there's just really my favorite things i wrote it down there's a lot of torture yeah it's it's like i haven't re-watched it again because it bummed me out so much that they couldn't finish it and do justice to it because that's if that would have finished it may have been the best hbo show ever it was incredible it was so good i don't know what that main actor's name is who plays uh caesar but he's oh caesar yeah yeah i've seen him elsewhere but he's great he's he's excellent and and like so there's really multiple stories going on because there's a lot of characters. But for me, there's an A plot and a B plot.
Starting point is 00:51:57 The A plot is the Roman Republic and Caesar and Brutus and Cassius and all these senators vying for power and scheming. And there's a couple of women. The women are more devious than any of the men. They're so just putrid and poisonous. But then there's the story of, like I said, these two little roman soldiers who are just mixed up in it all these these big global uh politics and you get to meet uh cleopatra at one point which is just a dirty little whore which is which is just great just lots of fun she's like she uh she wants to fuck one of them and uh they got our our main guy is like our And our main guy is married, though.
Starting point is 00:52:27 And he's just like, he has to walk out of the room. And he's so upset. He's like, hello. Go do what your queen asks of you and say nothing more. And he has to storm off. He's so mad at himself that he doesn't get to fuck Cleopatra because she's so smoking hot in the tent. She's got her pussy out.
Starting point is 00:52:43 She's like, you're not going to fuck me? Her slave is like, are you not going to fuck her? Are you serious? They almost... There's somewhere between calling him gay... It's season one or two. You're just going to get straight to that. It's good.
Starting point is 00:52:59 The other dude goes in there and he just really goes to town. It's a good time. It's a fun show. Yeah, there's Cleopatra. Yeah. It's a fun show. That's not her best look. Yeah, a bit of a butter face, but from the neck down it's perfect, really. Yeah, she's got some really short boyish hair
Starting point is 00:53:15 and the first time you see her, that's a lot more fun. I wanted to ask Woody, because you brought up the Lord of the Rings thing. What was your... you probably don't know what scenes were extended or which ones weren't my favorite like addition
Starting point is 00:53:34 isn't like in the books at all but I remember like when they kill Saruman at the top of the Tower of Orthanc and Grima stabs him in the back. And then he falls down and lands on that, that spike and then spins down into the,
Starting point is 00:53:50 into the muck kind of symbolizing that, like which ones did you like the most? And were there any that you were like, Oh, I remembered this being better. I, I remembered, I wish I could recall like you do,
Starting point is 00:54:02 but I remembered sometimes watching extended scenes being like, I can see why they left this out of the theatrical cut. You know, it is dragging a bit here when they go on and on. Can I tell you which one in particular? I bet you noticed it's when. Eowyn, I believe her name is a immerse,
Starting point is 00:54:19 like, like cousin or whatever. The blonde sexy chick is recuperating from her battle with the witch king. And so is is it fair fair mirror and they're like meeting each other in like the hospital recovery room it's a useless scene that does not need to be in there they're both like wounded from their just you know they were like walking to the ship to go to the immortal place and they the extended scenes really spent like extra time showing l's
Starting point is 00:54:45 walking through the woods and and i was a little baffled by the hierarchy of races in the book they do a pretty nice job of making all the races better phrasing pretend i said something better than separate but equal right so like the the hobbits for, it's an exaggeration to say they're all major lead pitchers, but they're not far off. If you watch the entire movie, not a single rock they throw misses its mark. And most of them are knockout shots, right? They're just one step below Legolas's arrow. And they do the show don't tell thing. But it's easy to look at them as silly little
Starting point is 00:55:26 characters throwing pebbles ineffectively when in reality they're amazing they're often hiding and they do the show don't tell but hobbits in the hobbit there he's the burglar he's not really a thief but he has the talents of a burglar because he's so sneaky he's light on his feet and it's hard to find them while they're hiding there's almost a bit of enchantment to their race that makes them that makes you more difficult to perceive them there's a scene where they're by the side of the road and they kind of go off the road and hide under a tree root and they look stupid as fuck because the camera's pointed right at them you realize they can't see them from the road very well but it looks like a shit job of hiding
Starting point is 00:56:05 that any two-and-a-half-year-old human toddler would pull off. But the hobbits have a supernatural ability to hide, and I wish they did a camera trick to make them just a little more camouflaged. Well, they do in that one scene. Remember the scene where they... Is this with the cloak? It's more about the cloak, though.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Yeah, yeah. The scene you're talking about is about the cloak. But yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. They're closer to Mordor in that scene. But in any case, the hobbits, they throw things. They're very sneaky. And they're kind of pure of heart. And they never lack bravery.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Incorruptible. Yeah. Or at least corruption resistant. And brave. Yes. And that's a talent. incorruptible yeah or at least uh corruption brave yes and and that's a talent um the elf special abilities are wildly obvious right like when he kills the oliphant when they're walking through the snow in the high mountains and legolas is just like light-footed on top of the snow and
Starting point is 00:56:59 everyone else is plodding through um the only shot he misses in the entire trilogy is when gimley bumps the bottom of his arrow so he kills a pirate that doesn't count i'm sorry the bottom is bow um but the the elves are almost like super warriors but aragon's not far off the elf he's basically doing the same shit all movie long the dwarf they insult for comic relief and i hate that because in the books they do a really nice job of making the dwarf and the elf separate but equal right the dwarf is a sort of endurance plotting strong also effective wonderful warrior but uh and they do show not tell but it gets a little lost because you see Legolas doing these great kills. And then you just maybe hear Gimli be like one hundred and twelve.
Starting point is 00:57:51 And it's like, yeah, he must have been doing work down there. You're right. They don't do enough to like really in the movies to like hammer in like how much stronger a dwarf is than the rest of the races where like the strongest man would get absolutely handled by by gimli like it would be no contest he could break their wrist he could rip their hand off like he their dwarves are unbelievably powerful and durable and not just and you just see him winded unable to keep up but i think dwarves also have like incredible endurance they do yeah but they tell it the opposite they're like we're very dangerous over short distances no you are i mean he did keep up yeah he did keep up but it's like his his endurance the dwarf
Starting point is 00:58:34 endurance is only shitty compared to the best enduring race which is the elves like and even in the books like tolkien makes it clear like no one is on no one is on elf level with all of it because they're immortal they are not as corruption resistant as the hobbits not as brute strong as the dwarves not as intuitive like and that's what i liked about how he did with men is like you'd think like this world with these powerful dwarves with these genius like immortal elves with these like clever hobbits like where on earth do regular men with their short lives fit into this and where it is is with teamwork and cooperation and ingenuity and inventing things i'm building things you can you can look at uh you know asgiliath or uh minas tirith or gondor all those places and be like my god how are the man
Starting point is 00:59:26 made cities so much better and like more advanced in some ways even than like rivendell and it's like well they're the elves are immortal and they like don't see the need to ceaselessly improve and ceaselessly make new things and you know the fact that man is on a limited time limit like puts them in the competition there and and they're always promulgating faster than the elves and the dwarves and the hobbits and there's a there's a goal to achieve with the men and so it's like oh that's how they compete they have in this world they're all the races were kind of equally good but the movie makes it seem i mean everyone who watches the movie wants to be Legolas when they grow up.
Starting point is 01:00:06 It's the only cool one. Yeah, definitely. Legolas and Gimli were the coolest. Aragorn's like the coolest kind of man because he's a Dunedain, so he gets to live to be like 130 anyway. Do you know how old Gandalf is? Thousands? Yeah, it's like
Starting point is 01:00:21 4,000 to 6,000 or something. He's like 52,000 six thousand or something it's like 52 000 years old something like that yeah the the wizards have just kind of always been and whether they're not immortal but he's he's either 52 or 57 000 years old like well that's yeah effectively immortal it seems like if you've got like a creator in your corner he just gets to come back he gets he's got one ups in his in his corner here's what you do though if you want if you want to get your laughs out of gimli but at the same time show how strong it is what if they had like a cave collapse and everybody thinks they're gonna die but he stands there and like overhead presses like the whole cave above his head and the music's
Starting point is 01:00:58 rising and then you're like he did it he did it but then you zoom out and everybody's just like barely not crushed they're all on their hands and knees because he's so short that'd be great the way they kind of showed it in like uh helms deep was like all the men and elves like when the uruk-hai came in and like got their hands on an elf they fucked that elf up elves aren't physically super strong like they'd head bash him and kill him whereas gimli like when the big giant scary uruk-hai is running towards him gimli with one swing of his axe can like hit him like a civic and like stop him and like flip him upside down like break his sternum and his armor and his plate and just with one hit and that's how gimli was able to get those those heavy totals
Starting point is 01:01:41 another fun thing imagine there's some feet of strength where a cave troll is, I don't know, pulling on a rope or pushing on a thing and the team can't manage it and Gimli's like, get out of my way. And he shows that
Starting point is 01:01:53 he has the strength of a cave troll or better. Yeah, that'd be cool. Definitely not cave troll level, but I see what you mean. Something like that. Because he would get... Yeah, I like feats
Starting point is 01:02:02 of strength in movies. Smoked by a cave troll. Give me something cool. It's a great movie. It's kind of hard to improve on kind of perfection how many i love it i'm gonna watch it again i'm gonna watch it again i'm gonna start the first one you were oscars than endgame i bet i would doubt that i would doubt that i think it kind of ran the gamut with all the oscars i don 2001, 2002. I'm going off my memory. That doesn't usually go wrong. I've never watched an award show ever
Starting point is 01:02:29 or looked it up. I'm going to have to lean on your knowledge here. That's smart. We should wrap. We have a hangout tonight. I'm looking forward to it. Do you know if Wendigoon is coming? Have we heard back from him? We're going to message him and see if he wants to play Codenames with us
Starting point is 01:02:45 in the hangout. Check out the hangout, folks. Alright. PKN 475.

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