Painkiller Already - PKN 497

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn 497 what's up boys no oh not too much yeah oh you went to the hockey game with your father taylor right i hope that's not like too personal no no not at all no i went with my brother oh my mistake yeah he just got me tickets yeah and so i read it wrong went and that was fun i got to see the fastest three goals in blues history they scored three times in 27 seconds i think the whole game was like boring as shit and so i'm just kind of sitting there like we were in like the food section and so i was like three hot dogs and a burger in and i was like well nobody's really scoring so i'm just gonna i'm not lying those are my pause there yeah three hot dogs and a burger is that like 60 dollars no no i was in the food section they had free food i was
Starting point is 00:00:46 in like the club area and so like it's like some every year my dad gets tickets to like it's been three years in a row now where every time i go i'm like oh it's gay night that's that's weird i feel like every time i go to the blues games now it's gay night i guess he gets like free pride night tickets and so we go and it's funny seeing like the transition in the n8 because the nhl fan base is not about that for the most part and so like the first year they did it it was like rainbow socks and all that on the players during warm-ups and there was a very negative response to it and so now now it's like just occasional flashing of like a famous gay person on the stream
Starting point is 00:01:27 this this one dude was on the jumbotron and he was singing like that west virginia song but the lyrics were about like respecting the players and behaving and everyone was like boo choruses of booze i was like why why would they even play that? No one's misbehaving. It's a midseason game between the fucking Blues, who are not going anywhere, and another team that is not going anywhere. And so, yeah, they scored 0-0 for most of the entire first,
Starting point is 00:01:56 and then into the second, and they scored three real quick, and that was neat. So, yeah, I had fun. I hadn't been to one in a while. Yeah, they won 4-0. Okay. In the end. Yep.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah, or we left before0. Okay. We left before the fourth call. I was not feeling good after the amount of hot dogs. Well, see, I didn't eat all day in preparation. You know, my biggest mistake was drinking the water they cooked it in. You don't think 62
Starting point is 00:02:20 ounces of fountain diet Pepsi and hot dogs. They were just throwing that hot dog water away can you believe it they just popped the drain on the side it was gargling out he put his cup up under there and saved i got right to the front of the line for my third dog and like the guy came up and had there was the tray of hot dogs and i already had the bun selected and there were two dogs left in the tray and he took the tray away i guess to go get a new tray of dogs with full ones. And so I had to stand there like a fucking idiot with a bun on my, like, just waiting there for him to get the hot dog man to get back.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And so anyone who was looking was like, that guy's at the hot dog counter again. That guy really wants a hot dog. You brought his bun from home. Look at him. He took it out of his pocket. Why did he take the tray away with two dogs left? I don't know. He's like, you're there waiting, bun in hand, and he's like, I'm not fun with that.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I had the tongs. I was reaching for it. He just nointed. I think he was trying to tell me something. But you don't want this buddy. Yeah, he might have saved me from that. These are from the Bruins game, Taylor. I'll go in the back.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Let me tell you a secret, Taylor. The last six make you sick, and there's only two left. You're going home early. That's probably true. Maybe he was covering my ass, so I appreciate it, sir. Taking one for the team. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Which brother did you go with? Number two or three?
Starting point is 00:03:42 My youngest brother. The middle brother lives in Kansas City, so I don't see him as or three my youngest brother who my my the middle brother lives in kansas city so i don't see him as much but my youngest brother lives real close to me so we hang out a good bit what state is kansas city in it's in missouri kansas right no no i follow donald trump on on truth social and there's no way he lies over there nope well i mean in fairness i think most people think kansas City is in Kansas, don't they? Is that like, I don't know because I'm from Missouri. And so it's always been very common knowledge to me that Kansas City is in Missouri.
Starting point is 00:04:15 But I feel like other states don't know. I think I know it because of Westerns. Because Kansas City, Missouri was like a booming shootout town for a while. And I think a few famous sheriffs from the Wild West like spent time there doing lawmanship. And so they're always like, did business in Abilene, did business in Kansas City, Missouri, did business west of the Peco.
Starting point is 00:04:38 It's like one of those like acumens that they throw out there. So yeah, I always knew that Kansas City was in Missouri. And just remember that, that it's not in Kansas or you'll look stupid. And so things like that, that can embarrass you. If you, that little faux pas, like pronouncing Arkansas wrong. I read all about why we call Arkansas, Arkansas today. Did you catch it Woody on Reddit? No, I didn't see that. First time for everything. Why do we say it that way?
Starting point is 00:05:00 It's spelled that way because of the French, but it's pronounced that way because that is how the Native Americans from Arkansas, they came there and said, hey, what is this place we're in? And they said, Arkansas. And the French spelling for awe is A-S, I suppose. But it became Arkansas law to pronounce it that way out of respect to those Native Americans and the early settlers in like 1881, I think. Somewhere around then. That's really woke for 1881. Out of respect for our Native Americans founders, let's pronounce this their way. You know, what else happened in 1881?
Starting point is 00:05:42 I mean... Civil War. Arkansas was probably figuring a few things out about what they wanted to be called in those days and they were just getting everything out of the way. I'm surprised there weren't more states renaming themselves post-war. Renaming? Oh. I don't think anyone's unhappy with their heritage or their name or anything, though, right? It's not like big federal government named Arkansas or their name or anything, though, right? It's not like big federal government named Arkansas, Arkansas, or Florida, Florida. You know, they've kind of...
Starting point is 00:06:09 I don't think I understand where you're getting at. When they broke away and became the Confederacy, maybe they're like, I don't want to be Georgia no more. That was the king of England. I got nothing to do with King George. He's been dead for... 47 years. Having more loyalty to Georgia than America is how I would say you wouldn't change the name of Georgia.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I guess that's true. Yeah. Well, I mean, like back then we think of it like a country now. But back then it was like you were loyal to your state over the country. Depends where you're from. Yeah. Us winners were more loyal to the country than your state. That's true.
Starting point is 00:06:44 That's true. He tends to beat the state. He served in the fourth Western Corps, I believe, Woody, the Abilene Rough Riders. They say I look good for my age. They have no idea. I actually commanded the Abilene Rough Riders, Kyle. Picked up his accent south of the Dixie line whooping ribs wasn't a what's his name Roosevelt a Rough Rider yeah but that was a different time the Rough Riders Roosevelt went down to Mexico and whooped Mexicans asses
Starting point is 00:07:15 that was his deal just for fun well no we had a war with them I believe at the time Teddy Roosevelt at this point invades Mexico just for shits and gigs, he says. The shortest war ever. One drunken afternoon.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Oh, fuck. What did I do? He wasn't the president then. He was like an officer or something. Have we ever had a Texas Ranger become president? No. Probably not. How a Texas Ranger become president? No. Probably not. What's the closest to the Texas Rangers? I'm not even sure.
Starting point is 00:07:50 The original Texas Rangers came about to fight the Comanche, I believe. The idea at the time, they were like the special forces. They had the newest guns. They had the new five-shot Colts, I believe. They carried two of them plus an extra wheel for each guns. They had the new five-shot Colts, I believe. They'd carry two of them plus an extra wheel for each one. They had their maybe Kentucky rifles at the time.
Starting point is 00:08:11 They had these one-shot rifles. And they were hunting and fighting the Comanche, taking on the Comanche's way of living, doing those cold camps where they don't build fires at night. They eat cold food and stay off the grid so they can stalk the Comanches who had these hit-and-run tactics. They'd come and raid a place, steal women, steal children, steal goods, and then run until the pursuers could no longer follow because they were so much better at those tactics, first of all, and they knew the terrain so much better.
Starting point is 00:08:38 But the Texas Rangers came about to deal with that threat and eradicate the Comanches. Cool. How elite are they? Well, Harrison Ford was one. Does that answer your question? Kevin Costner was one, I think. I'm not positive about that. What was he in that Bonnie and Clyde movie where he killed them?
Starting point is 00:08:57 Yeah, I didn't watch that movie, but I think he plays a federal officer in that. That would make sense because he's able to move back and forth from state to state. I think I'm wrong. That was around Kentucky, I think. But I think Texas Rangers fancy themselves as Navy SEALs, and I'm not sure whether I should respect them as such or if they're just fucking sheriff's officers with better branding. Modern Texas Rangers, my humble opinion would be how could they be anything but state police officers just like
Starting point is 00:09:24 any other state police agency? But, you know, the old ones, you know, the original ones, those guys who were out there hunting Indians who would torture you alive if they caught you. I got some respect for those guys because that was that's that Wild West hero shit come to life. But yeah, the modern ones, how could they be anything but, you know, like if they're fat ones, then question answered. Yeah, do the Texas Rangers have physical requirements? Do they have a SWAT team? I don't think a SWAT team. Look, I don't know what the Texas Rangers do, but I
Starting point is 00:09:53 assume they're a state police agency that can move around Texas from county to county. I wouldn't imagine them to be Navy SEAL-like in any way. Zach posted, it's generally accepted that the Texas Rangers are considered to be one of the nation's most elite law enforcement agencies,
Starting point is 00:10:12 like a SWAT team. And I'm like, well, that's their branding, right? Yeah. It's generally considered that assholes who make dick jokes on podcasts are amongst the smartest people on all of YouTube. No one debates that. Right? It's like, well, you can't just say it. Let me see their SAT scores.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Let me see what they've done that's significant. These look like two guys who got Cs in high school to me. Yeah, I don't like... I mean, you know, this is an outfit that can look so good or so bad depending on your body. I'm going to let you know right now. The guy on the left is not rocking it. He needs to stand up.
Starting point is 00:10:50 He needs to stand up and get his fucking... Stop twiddling with his thumbs, literally. But no, I like the outfit. I respect the hat. I think the hat's cool. I wish that it was part of my culture so I could wear that hat. This is how white girls that want to braid their hair feel, I guess. I just wish I could wear that hat. This is how white girls that want to
Starting point is 00:11:06 braid their hair feel, I guess. I just wish I could wear that hat and not be made fun of for it. You just wish you could wear that hat? You wouldn't be made fun of for it. You go stomping around your neighborhood, clacking your fucking spurs. There's an old Chris LeDoux song called This Cowboy Hat or something. These guys are making fun of his cowboy hat
Starting point is 00:11:22 and he sings a song about how important the hat is to him it's real good yeah okay there's no better way to continue getting made fun of for your hat than to write a song about it all right no it's not making fun of me for my hat is it in one two three or a new one it's an old song yeah it's an old cowboy song chris ledoux's like the original not original back in the 50s, like that John Wayne shit, but he's the original country western cowboy singer. Those songs are good. I like that song. It's sad, though. It's like a lady that I love very much gave me this hat pin. Don't think I'll ever see her again.
Starting point is 00:11:59 This was given to me by an Indian friend of mine. He got ran down around that state line. Killed. This is from my friend who died in Vietnam. And it was all these sad stories about why he's wearing the hat. Because the bikers are making fun of it. But I wish I could wear that cowboy hat. Is what I was getting at.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Because I think that shit's fucking cool. No, I don't. I bet you've got the head for a hat. I can wear a hat. Yeah. They fit. Taylor, I'm going to gonna let you in a little secret most people have the heads for hats it's just you and those waterheaded babies who can't wear head no i've got a i've got a hat collection my eight and a halves is that what your hat size is no no that
Starting point is 00:12:39 would be absurd i think i don't even know what my hat size is i don't think I don't even know what my hat size is. I don't even know what my hat is. Even you saying it's absurd, I don't know if it's too big or too small. Yeah, I know it's too big. Eight's not that big of a number. I know eight's bigger than eight. It's a very small shoe size for a man. Big head, though? Apparently,
Starting point is 00:13:00 because you see people with the stickers on, and it'll say seven or seven and a half seven and a quarter and so i had in my head that like an eight and a half inch hat size would be huge because that's like isn't that isn't that diameter right i have no idea i genuinely don't know then then i don't know i don't know anything about hat and sneaker culture. I do know that I dislike sneakers. I think they look... We talked about this just recently, so we won't dwell
Starting point is 00:13:31 on it, but the fucking Kanye shoes are so ugly. Do you like just plain old Air Force Ones? White Air Force Ones or something? I have some regular Adidas tennis shoes. I got off Amazon for like 50 bucks and they're great.
Starting point is 00:13:49 But they're probably like dad shoes. I think I'm making that transition preemptively. Dad shoes are tough. You guys aren't quite there yet, I would argue. But when you're my age, dressing is so hard to do. You simultaneously don't want to be that old guy wearing dress shoes while mowing his yard. That's a terrible look. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:14:09 On the other hand, you can't go to Forever 21 anymore and just grab whatever seems cool. What are the fucking 16-year-olds wearing? I'll throw that on because that's clearly what's in style. No, it might look good. But on you, it sends the wrong message that you're somehow clinging to the past. I think you should look to Matthew McConaughey for your fashion advice. I feel like he's a cool guy.
Starting point is 00:14:32 No? I've seen him with a bolo. Texan. But I feel like he's in your age group and he dresses cool. Yeah, he does seem cool. I often see him in threadbare khaki shorts
Starting point is 00:14:50 and a linen shirt unbuttoned. The linen shirt unbuttoned thing is a very different look than what I normally go for. I would feel like I was in costume. Get tanned first. Don't be all pale for that. You want to look like you rock it daily. first don't don't don't be all pale for that you want
Starting point is 00:15:06 to look like you rock it daily you don't make it sick this is his first day with that linen shirt i'm gonna wash it 16 times before i wear it i uh isn't it funny how like you know you wear your daily uniform whatever that is and deviating it from it is somehow harder to do than it should be yeah i don't you don't i guess i mean it depends what i'm doing if i'm just lounging around the house i don't give a i'm in like sweats all the time when i go out i don't know like some what i'll just like have shopping like sprees not sprees but like i'll buy a whole new like bunch of things to wear and that's just what i how i dress for the next three years.
Starting point is 00:15:45 You know, I was like, Kyle, this thing's really great for lounging around the house. It's super comfy and you'll love it. And then it's some sort of native American Indian garb. You'd be like, I can't wear this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I've got to change my look. I told Taylor, I'm starting to rock the FDR. Look, when I game, I get my electric blanket, throw it on my lap. That is a very elderly thing of you to do. FDR always had that blanket in his lap.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And I was like, man, I bet that's comfy on those chilly days. You know, it's that electric blanket. Yeah. Let it drape over my bare foot, bare feet. You know, I got them on my foot pedals gaming. So I need to keep those warm and toasty. You can't wear socks. No, can't leave.
Starting point is 00:16:23 No, of course not. I got to get my toenails into the foot pedal so I can operate. If he had socks on, it would create a level of numbness between him and the controls that he keeps. I need tactile feel. See, I actually took some stickum, put that on my toes.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You ruined your carpet. I'm getting really good. And my feet are filthy. My lap times have never been better. Oh, so good. I used to do that when I gamed with my hands, legitimately. I would take pine tar
Starting point is 00:16:54 that you use for baseball. I was trying to figure out... My fingers would get sweaty and the mouse would start slipping. I gripped the mouse in my own way and it would start slipping out of my hand like away from my hand directly straight down because of the sweatiness or then my fingers would start like my w key like i'm i'm using my how do you how do you grip a mouse you don't just
Starting point is 00:17:14 put your hand on top of it i do but i have to read i can't just glide my hand on it because so so i grab it like this i'm sure this is how everyone grabs a mouse, but this part of my hand here needs to fully encompass this thing. I'm almost getting underneath it with the fat of my hand. Because when I reach to do quick swipes to whip around, I'm picking the whole mouse up.
Starting point is 00:17:37 You hang your fingers over the edge of the mouse? I have my hand like that. Let me see it. I have that mouse also. But this is the one I have here. It's similar to mine, but not the same. It's a,
Starting point is 00:17:51 I got that one on your recommendation. 502. Yeah. I think I got it from like, mine's a G 502 also, but yours is plugged in. That's why. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:00 I always, I don't want to fuck with batteries. I always like corded things. Uh, even like i've never had wireless ear like like music listening of any kind like i don't like earbuds that's part of it the 502 has a mouse pad that can charge it and i just like that i just like that it's always fine my whole desk is that mouse pad or i would be on your team yeah i see the attraction
Starting point is 00:18:22 to yours too like i have like different mice for there are two different mice for different games like i have this razor one for aoe and like all the other games but then that one kyle has i only plug in when i'm playing warhammer because it has that nice smooth option that you can just like like it's like a weighted wheel. Yeah, it's like a weighted metal wheel. You can hit the switch here, and you see how it's going with inertia when I flick it? Yeah. It's just going. That's how easy it is to turn,
Starting point is 00:18:50 but if I hit that button again, now you've got the geary thing. What do you use that for in-game? In Total War, Kyle and I have the debug camera mod on so that you can zoom much further out, and because it's a game where you have to sometimes go real high, it's jarring and awkward to to sometimes go real high it's like
Starting point is 00:19:05 jarring and awkward to do like that click click click click click click click click and try and pull yourself up and this razor mouse doesn't have that capability that bitch so i just flick that bitch and it makes it very smooth the only thing i use that for is i'll be on a web page and if you were to print it it would be like 300 pages long like the the bottom of a Reddit comments. So I just unlock it all the way to the top. I bet there's games control up arrow or something, but I bet there's games where you can make mouse wheel your fire. Like every time it actuates, the fire is,
Starting point is 00:19:34 I bet you could do that. Yeah. Imagine that. That would be awkward though. I like, like learning, changing what I've learned on mouse and keyboard is, is not a good idea. If I were to try to like hold the keyboard different
Starting point is 00:19:48 i've actually gotten but but oh but i used to put the pine tar like on my fingertip so that when i pressed the key and i pulled back i would almost be pulling the key with me because i'm not i'm like not losing contact with the key i'm stuck stuck to my keyboard. Did you get better at gaming? I felt like I did. It was either that or the countless hours. I don't know. I mean, the fact that I'm buying pine tar suggests I probably was playing a lot at the time.
Starting point is 00:20:18 That's crazy. I just tried to lift my finger faster than it will spring back, and I think I can't. I can't remember who it was that was getting blisters from a game oh it's wings wings got blisters from call of duty that time remember he had the band-aid played a lot he was like i think on playstation he was the first person on the planet to hit 10th prestige on one of the you. And he was like near the forefront on Xbox
Starting point is 00:20:48 2. He just played every waking hour and sort of rushed it. Where did he get blisters on his hands? Like his trigger finger? His fingers, I thought. I mentioned thumbs, but I'm not sure. That's what I would press hardest on. I'd get palm blisters on the Tug of War
Starting point is 00:21:04 minigame in the N64 Mario party as a kid. Cause the only, like the only way to win was to go like that as fast as you could. And you'd like wear the skin off of your hand. How do you play? You have to like, there's a one little thing, like the one joystick.
Starting point is 00:21:18 And then you had to like move it around in a circle. But like six year old me and my six year old friends were like, when you try and do that, you're like clunky. You're like like a kid and so you just put your whole palm on top of it and go as fast as you can and then afterward like you're like i remember getting intense and i won around but like there's like blood like a little a little bit of blood and it was like man it was worth the win though it stung in the pool later. Yeah, good memories. When I'm playing Tarkov, and I'm holding the scope,
Starting point is 00:21:50 trying to get somebody to stand still to shoot him, and I'm intense about it, I realize I'm squeezing mouse 2 so hard. Like, so hard. Like, hard enough it would hurt a girl's hand if I were holding it. Like, so much weight on mouse too when obviously it's just like a quarter ounce it's the it's the lightest trigger
Starting point is 00:22:11 i i um i do that a lot these mouses are made well like based on that because i squeeze the fuck out of this thing i was thinking that they they put up with the occasional temper tantrum i don't know i've done that i i don't throw it or anything, but I I'll pick it up and put it down too hard I slam it. Yeah, I I pick it up Like that like I'm I already have it, you know, this isn't like grabbing something and being mad I already have it so I can get up and straight down bang bang bang And then I slide it away from me and sometimes I'll hit my chair to a couple times and then I'll point me and sometimes I'll hit my chair too a couple times and then I'll point I hope that mouse learns to play better I get up and like like I got so tilted I was I was having such a good day on AOE
Starting point is 00:22:54 got a couple wins in a row and then had a terrible losing streak three in a row I lost and like I I was so mad at the end of the third one because you can like check someone's games played afterward and so i was like i beat this guy how many games does he have this guy's got 100 total games i've got like 40 or something oh this next guy i beat oh this guy had 130 games and i beat him even only i only have 40 then i lost to three guys in a row and it was like 3 000 games played 5 000 games played 4 000 games played and i was like just tilted i'm like you pieces of intentionally in there you're intentional no that's the problem is it's i refuse to believe anyone could play 5 000 matches of age of empires and be the skill level that i am
Starting point is 00:23:37 currently these are people these are people who are smurfing they're going in they're resigning over and over and over to get down to like my level and then they're beating the shit out of people like me because yeah my head it was going the other way you won i forget if you said two or three games in a row and it's like oh okay this guy's got some skills we'll match him up with johnny aoe over here johnny aoe beat the beat me like a drum like i had no shot at any point in the game and I just kept playing because I'm like alright well it's kind of good practice for defense I guess I'm learning a little bit after like three of those in a row I don't like slam stuff
Starting point is 00:24:12 on my desk but like I'll get up and like pace around for a few minutes and like in my own head I'll be like fuck and then I get mad I get more mad at myself for being mad about it because i'm like you're mad about a video game you fucking loser you loser hate flow through you and then like two
Starting point is 00:24:34 minutes later i'm like it's just a game who care i care i care so much like it's like i don't want to care but i do it's like it's some some old game. I'm going to get pissed because I lose. Yes. Yes, I'm going to get pissed. There's nothing wrong. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. If you were putting a ship together in a bottle and you got mad that you broke it after putting 40 hours into it, that's a legitimate mad thing. It's your hobby. It's what gives you pleasure.
Starting point is 00:24:58 And doing it well gives you extra pleasure. So failing at it makes you mad. I scream both when I get scared and when i'm mad so my girlfriend was like all the dogs are downstairs looking at the ceiling right now because i'm up here like you fucking fucking fuck just screaming at somebody who was just playing the game you know having fun or whatever doing their own shit. There are cheaters in that game, but I see them mostly because of
Starting point is 00:25:29 what you're describing, Taylor. What they do is they're cheating, and so they have these wild KD ratios. Mine's 8. That's okay. These guys will have KDs of 50 or 75 or something. Mine was often 7. For comparison.
Starting point is 00:25:46 They'll use a bot that'll make them go into the smallest, most PvP-based map factory over and over and just stand there until they die. Or go in and then just disconnect, which I think counts as a death, to drive their KD down. So when they're not playing,
Starting point is 00:26:01 it's on their losing all day. And driving their KD down and their win-loss ratio down so that when they are playing, they can just win every game and kill everything that's on the map and it all balances out to something that's somewhat legitimate looking because, like I said, they added this wipe that you can look at people's
Starting point is 00:26:18 stats. Maybe I'll just start doing that. I'll just start resigning a bunch of games in a row and then go down and beat up on truly terrible players i won't do that because that's that's mean-spirited but i mean it's tempting i would just see taylor play tarkov because just knowing how much he cares about aoe which is a game with almost no punishment for losing outside your own feelings tarkov like you're gonna be like gosh darn it you know i just had a run that would have set me up for a whole day i was so loaded with stuff now not only did i lose that
Starting point is 00:26:54 but i lost the stuff that took me half a day to that i brought in there with me like i have really been set back by this loss yeah it carries forward i i just the first time the way me playing that game would go is i would like open the inventory the first time i found a bag of wires and i would like start organizing my my fifth pocket and i'd be like this is hell this is like i'm i'm at work right now i'm at work there's an organized button if you just lower your standards oh the like the looting thing and the moving stuff around thing after five minutes of instruction it's you've got as far as like just looting someone and like getting things in your bag there's higher levels to it you can be fast you can be effective and then of course you can memorize the cost of every single item like that autistic man who won prices right that's what i've done ask me an item and um and so you want as much value per slot in your bag so maybe the thing
Starting point is 00:27:52 is six a six slot item that costs 166 000 rubles like a metal can of fuel i'm curious i'm gonna ask some heavy hitters these aren't like fucking yeah dump it's dumpers like some attachment. How much is a GPU right now? About eight hundred and fifty thousand rubles to nine hundred thousand rubles. Okay, how much is a led X? One point I found one in a while probably about nine hundred thirty thousand rubles Okay Yeah shit's expensive. Yes I would start now the upside is some of the things I really need would be cheap. Like bolts, screws,
Starting point is 00:28:28 wires. Things you need at the beginning of your hangout. Everyone else has. Yeah, you should start. It's a ton of fun. I didn't feel impeded at all by starting late in the wipe. I never do. I feel like people aren't rushing
Starting point is 00:28:44 for that early shit. Everybody's not trying to repair the shit on factory. Everybody's not planting their three canisters of gunpowder. Everybody's not running for the watch. So you're avoiding it. It's like a rust when you start on that first day and everybody wants
Starting point is 00:29:00 wood. This is my wood. You can't have it. And that was's gonna be a war over wood um yeah it's been a great white i've um i've been having such so much fun i've been playing with the boys um a little bit but probably 90 95 so all my hard tasks i've done solo um which i like playing tarkov solo sometimes and the motivation is the same as when I eat alone. It's like I do exactly what I want to. It doesn't have to make sense to you.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I don't have to justify it to anyone. The nanosecond I finish my meal, I can ask for a check. I don't have to wait and make sure that you are happy. And when I play Tarkov, the same thing is true. Like, oh, do you have a quest? No, because you're not with me. We're only doing what I want to. arc off the same thing is true like oh do you have a quest no because you're not with me you know
Starting point is 00:29:45 we're only doing what i want to yeah some raids i'll go in immediately find one thing and leave and sometimes some some raids i'll be in until the last second and it's up to me what i do i like that too and i also like being able to die and not care about your shit yeah sometimes right like imagine we're in like a 2v2. I die. Now what? You're expected to kill those two and get my gear hidden? That's the gentlemanly thing to do. I'm supposed to stay and fight it out, Taylor, and defend Woody's property.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Woody's dead on the ground, and all of his shit's on his body. And I'm the last man left standing, and there's two enemies, and they want his shit. And I could turn around and run, like, straight out the back door of this place, and then into the woods, and by the time they check the back door, I'm through the woods. And by the time they check the woods, I'm out of the map. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:30:30 It's like it's like real life. You take off the back out the back door and we don't notice for five seconds. You're gone. You're gone. Yeah. So but what you do is you fight for your boy's gear. I don't do that. I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:30:41 They'll be Bobby to be like, I'm dead. I'm like, oh, man, that sucks. You should have stayed closer to me. And I'm god i'm gone is he mad about it is he like hey can you pick up my fucking sniper scope not if he is he doesn't say it um but uh but there's just something you have to deal with if you play with me i'm not gonna fight for your gear um uh if we're in a fight like we're if we're battling right now, we're both, that's different. But if you wander off and went down a corridor
Starting point is 00:31:07 and a bad man sniped you or a bad man like from a corner killed you and now he has your shit, Hal's already left. He's gone. Unless I need to kill that guy or something. Again, I'm playing for me. Or unless you feel like you can do it.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Like if a bad man snipes you through a window, I can probably belly crawl over there, put your gear somewhere. Yeah, but he won't learn if I do that. You're not at much risk. You won't get shot through the window if you belly crawl. Of course not! But that guy sniped him. He deserves the loot.
Starting point is 00:31:34 I also do that now, too. I am a little more honorable if I find, say, a thumb drive, which is an early game thing, Taylor, that God, if I could just get one more flash drive. Just one more flash drive just one more But later on they're like free basically you don't care. I leave in my pocket. So somebody kills me they get the flash drive I Do that with all the quest items?
Starting point is 00:31:55 Hmm. Why it's kind to just Karma out there because it's not worth Hardly anything to me if I die and get out with it out there? Because it's not worth hardly anything to me if I die and get out with it. If I put it in my gamma, my secure container and get out with it then it's like 20,000 rubles to just sell to a vendor. But to them it's everything.
Starting point is 00:32:12 It progresses their quest lines. It gets them tons of rewards. So might as well let them have it. If you survive a raid you probably made about 200,000 rubles. So that's to say that 20,000 is not a lot. It it's not a changer but it's a rare item so it means a lot to someone who needs it for their hideout i've got like i think my stash i
Starting point is 00:32:34 probably got 50 million so like you know i just don't care i don't care about that little money and it'll all be gone in a month right i mean i could delete it right now if i want to start over again i wouldn't be opposed to that. People do that. It's so wacky. He wouldn't be starting over and over because his character would still have a good metabolism. His footsteps would be quiet. He would aim better. He'd handle
Starting point is 00:32:56 recoil better. Not his own skill set, but his character would have less recoil than a new one. But he would lose all his stuff, and that matters. Yeah, you'd lose every you can delete all your things and stay where you are in the quest line or you can just reset your character too there's a button for that you can just start fresh um i might do that i'm not opposed to that it's funny there's a lot of people who will be like this fucking sucks when are you
Starting point is 00:33:19 gonna wipe already i'm bored we'll just reset well no't want that. Yeah, I want to be forced into it. I don't want to get rid of my own loot. You want everybody to reset. You don't want to fight in the land of giants. You want everybody to start back at sticks and stones because that's interesting. Early wipe is always fun because everyone's hungry for everything.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Late wipe, I don't care about money. It's just that one little thing that I'm hunting for or that one little enemy to kill on every map. But early wipe, every screw, every wire is precious to me. Do you think they spend too much time in wipes? No, I don't. I think they spend the appropriate amount. It should be about five months, which is usually what they do, roughly.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And when they wipe, sometimes, this isn't always true, but they usually come back with new improvements to the game. Like, they just wiped a few months ago. Big changes and improvements to the game. So that's one of the main reasons they wipe. I don't know if they intend to be a game
Starting point is 00:34:20 I know what they've said they intended to do. I don't know what the future is for Tarkov. When they finally go full release and it's no longer in beta, no longer early access, if there will... My guess would be, I think they've said it,
Starting point is 00:34:31 that there will be a server with wipes and a server without wipes. And so maybe you'd have a character on each. Interesting. Which would make sense. But I would not want... When's that going to be? Probably the end of this year, honestly, because they stopped selling the early
Starting point is 00:34:46 edition, the EOD version of the game, and they are very close to having... There's only one map, so you don't know this, but on the starting screen, you get to choose which map you want to play on. When I first started, they had all the map names up there, but you could only play on like
Starting point is 00:35:02 six or seven or something. But you could see that someday we'll play on Lighthouse, but you could only play on like 6 or 7 or something. But you could see that someday we'll play on Lighthouse, and someday we'll play on Terminal. We still can't play on Terminal. That's the last one left. So they've only got one more map to release. So they're generally quite close to the full release of the game. This isn't a big company
Starting point is 00:35:18 either, right? Just some Russian gaming company, right? Yeah. There was actually a big financial report recently released that's a bit damning, and people are saying it could cause a lot of trouble for the game they uh they released the arena apparently they banked heavily on that um i don't know what was it oh you didn't hear the noise maybe it was you maybe it sounded like uh nails on the chalkboard almost really loud out of nowhere sorry to everyone driving i think they lost a lot of money with the arena mode because it's like dead on arrival nobody's wanting to play it and they spent a ton of money on it but um you could see with their financial
Starting point is 00:35:55 records you could see how much money's been pumped into the company how much money they make every year um what nikita makes all that stuff they're based in london i think but they are a russian company i'm using a ton of money because of arena mode yes they invested heavily in arena mode in producing it and as well as taking it to a lot of cons and a lot of uh gaming conventions i think it's like a million dollars when you go to one of those things and have your game like you have a yeah when they've got those the banners and everybody's showing up to play it and they fly all the uh creators out and all that shit uh i think they've baked heavily on it being successful and
Starting point is 00:36:34 it's not there's no reason to play that shit there's just not like serena what is it like call of duty version they tried to take like search Search and Destroy Counter-Strike sort of gameplay where you just go in and you face off against another team of four or five and we play best first one to five wins or whatever, like that sort of thing. They tried to do that with Tarkov Clunky Mechanics. And the thing about Tarkov
Starting point is 00:36:57 Clunky Mechanics is it works for a simulator. But when you're running around in Arena Mode, you want to be this light bouncy Call of Duty guy or Apex Legends guy or something like Halo, something like that. You don't want to be fixing a heavy bleed with a tourniquet and looking at what kind of ammo your gun has
Starting point is 00:37:16 and worrying about if it can penetrate their helmet. That's a different kind of game. I think they lost a lot of money with that. I hope it doesn't spell any dark days for Tarkov. Well, that sucks. I thought it was... Like, it's wildly successful, isn't it? Like, it's a real big game.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Or maybe I just think that because it's big in my world with you guys. They released how many... So we know how many copies they sold in, I think, 2020 or 2021. It was a lot. It was like a million copies or something. I can't remember what the numbers were. They were in that video I watched, but it's been a few days. I wouldn't say wildly successful. They showed what their profits were, actually. They showed what they profited because the servers are expensive, too. Servers are wildly expensive.
Starting point is 00:37:55 I didn't expect that. What really makes them blow up and puts them on your radar, probably, as a non-Tarkov player, if I didn't exist, is the Twitch drops. That's always their... Whoever came up with that idea, it's huge for any game to just give away these free in-game items if you watch a streamer, because then the entire front page of Twitch is nothing but Tarkov for days.
Starting point is 00:38:19 How does it work? Do they give you a code during the stream and then you go... Better. No, so you link your twitch account to your tarkov account oh and and so then it for every um for every certain amount of time you're watching the streamer who at that time has the drops because not all of them do it goes in waves you got to switch to a streamer who does and what they'll do is they'll host a guy who does when they're done with their stream and everybody figures out who they're going to roll it
Starting point is 00:38:43 over to so you just open a monitor that's under that streamer and then you get a Chrome extension that auto accepts those to your account and you put it on a laptop and you put it in another room and you leave it on. For days and days and you get free loot. For days and days and you get
Starting point is 00:39:02 free loot, yeah. But the end result for Battlestate Games is their game is the hottest thing on the fucking internet for a week. And lots of new players come in and buy copies. I used to... When I had my... You know, I go to Lake Hartwell and do my paragliding for the weekend. I would bring a laptop.
Starting point is 00:39:19 I would open it to a Twitch stream. I would do what Kyle said. And then I'd just leave. And I'd come back that night and I've got all this new shit I earned while I was gone totally AFK. It's one thing to go to sleep. Not only that,
Starting point is 00:39:32 that Chrome extension also does all the interactions with a streamer's channel that are possible. I don't know much about that stuff because I'm not that nitty gritty but you can accept the channel points and all that shit. Anything that
Starting point is 00:39:50 all the viewing hours where you get accrue more points or acumens, rewards, whatever. My guy on Landmark, if he sees me type a comment, he's like, oh my god, it's that guy. He doesn't even need to see that it's my name because it's got all sorts of stars and rainbows on it from the the enormous amount of viewing time are you heavily meddled are
Starting point is 00:40:09 you like a north korean general and yes yes i must have 10 million gold to bet when you comment you push everyone else out of the comment section with all your stars and thumbs up kyle only chat twitch channel points are funny they're every bit as worthless as reddit karma but somehow just like reddit karma i'm trying to get more for no reason and uh i was in anton stream i had 80 000 points and uh i bet on him to survive a raid which he easily could have. His guy is loaded to bear. Every pocket is full of goodies. And he's like, well, maybe if I take on this one before, I'll upgrade the goodies
Starting point is 00:40:52 I have from mediums to highs or something like that. And he wins. And then he just does it again and again and again. Almost trying to find a reason to die. And I lost all 80,000 channel points. I still haven't bounced back. And I'm just 80,000 channel points. I'm still having fun. And I'm just like,
Starting point is 00:41:07 can I transfer you my landmark count points? Those transferred Anton. I'm sending you my thoughts. I can, I prop you up. You can get them out of this hole. He's in your own bed away from being right back in it. I have like 50,000 points.
Starting point is 00:41:24 And like you said, Ooh, should I just make a 40,000 point bet? Get up to 90, the highest I've ever been. Nope. This train's going to turn around. This is what they say about gambling. I get it now. It's so bad. Imagine if this was something that mattered, like money.
Starting point is 00:41:40 That'd be so stressful. I'm still holding on to this little bit of a grudge because he like made terrible decisions in game until he died and he's very talented so he survived a lot of bad decisions so that was the last time you'll be watching his content
Starting point is 00:41:55 that is not true I still watch it man I need to I'm so excited for Age of Mythology to release and it's going to be this year. That's going to be so sick. Hopefully you'll jump in on that one a bit, Kyle. I know you liked it.
Starting point is 00:42:15 Yeah. I mean, maybe. Is that RTS, Age of Mythology? Yeah. It is. It's the one I did play a lot. I might actually play Warhammer, I think.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Warhammer 3. Maybe even a little bit of 2. I don't know what games are coming out this year. I'm excited for Space Marine 2. That looks great. It's an 11-year sequel to Space Marine 1. one the graphics really cool you play as an ultra marine uh and you're doing you're just killing tyranids with your chainsaw
Starting point is 00:42:51 there's a cool storyline that looks fun to me uh and it's right up my alley with all that 40k lore that i absorb as i as i that's what i wind down to and then go to sleep every night i play 40k lore and and and it's it just just learn about some made-up thing that never happened i mean it's cool it's it's like it's just like like reading the silmarillion like you're just learning about on lore and it's exactly dude that's exactly what 40k is it's it's if tolkien had like 50 friends and they all broke their bones. The Marillians. So there's just so much dense lore. Isn't there a problem with it of like a lot of non-canon stuff?
Starting point is 00:43:34 Not that that's a problem. It's just like a little bickering in the community of like, they say that Lord, you know, Kuback of the green folk was this, but actually he didn't. more like a thousand years later. It's a bit like how in the Bible you have different books with, with different interpretations of an event that happened and the same core things happened, but maybe Luke cared more about,
Starting point is 00:43:56 um, how the people were reacting to what happened. And John cared more about what Jesus said in that moment. Um, so, so yeah, yeah, you get So you get these, I thought you'd get that one. So there are these, so it's like that, but there's also retcons and ever changing canon. The Horus Heresy, which is like the central thing that happened in the 40K universe that made things the way they are, where one of the emperor's 20 sons
Starting point is 00:44:22 led about half of them against him in a big civil war that ripped the galaxy and the and the human imperium apart um those books are just now coming out i guess and like the the details about that are being fleshed out so but but there's tons of nitty-gritty lore because there's just thousands of years of made-up history there you know thousands of years of made-up. That's densely packed with wars. This is never ending war. That's their tagline.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And it really is. If you get into it too much, you, you get a little sad and depressed because you'll be like, you know, I thought eventually it'd be like star Wars and Luke would get to retire somewhere. No,
Starting point is 00:44:58 there will be no retirement. Everyone fights until they, everyone fights until they die. And then the new guy takes up their mantle to fight until he dies. And that is how it will always be. That's just the way that shit is. Well, on team, what is it? The Emperor?
Starting point is 00:45:15 The humans? Or the Empire, right? The Imperium of Mankind. Yes. The humans. They're on a pretty good win streak in Warhammer, right? They are They are surrounded from all sides By enemies
Starting point is 00:45:30 Their enemies are legion and powerful And each one can destroy them in a different way They're winning, right? Not at all The galaxy is balanced on a knife's edge There's a Tyranid invasion But an intergalactic alien threat It came from another galaxy And so now instead of approaching From another galaxy and so like now they're
Starting point is 00:45:46 instead of approaching from the side of the galaxy they're coming from straight up below so they're we're not able to defend them off with our frontier systems anymore they're coming straight for the the home systems that's so weird that like i know warhammer fantasy was first but then like to make warhammer 40k a totally different universe seems so strange to me it's like why not just have it be the future of the fantasy world like so it all ties together and then you could be like oh look at the lizard men in warhammer 3 these guys will eventually be the whatever the fucks the the old or these are the old the old ones whatever These are the old ones. I think that would be cooler if they tied up. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:27 I don't know exactly why. It would have made more sense if they tied together. There's a new one now. Age of Sigmar, right? That's the old shit. As far as I remember, Sigmar is one of the emperors or the great leaders of the Imperium of Mankind
Starting point is 00:46:44 in the fantasy world. Yeah, part of the emperors or the great leaders of the Imperium of Mankind in the fantasy world. Yeah, part of the fantasy world. He's got the hammer called Golmoraz, right? Golmoraz? He's got a big magical hammer. It's what Warhammer is named after. They're expanding that world now. They're newly doing more
Starting point is 00:47:00 Age of Sigmar stuff, I think. Maybe so. I saw some new content come onto my feed, but i don't i don't get into that stuff it's that stuff's lame i like this stuff's gay you like well you're gonna shoot a hagbane bow while you ride a fucking elk into battle get out of here wood elf i'm all about the salamander following any of this that's why it's funny yeah if you don't know, it's the Henry Cabell show. I'm hoping we'll open that world up to a broader audience.
Starting point is 00:47:31 I don't know. That would be sweet. Some shit just takes too long for my tastes. It feels like we were watching From three years ago. Is that season ever coming out, the next one? Oh my god, who cares?
Starting point is 00:47:48 Fuck that show. I ain't watching no more of that. From is the show with the black sheriff in the town that they're locked in and the ghouls come out at night. The one you addicted to. You suggested. I only got three episodes in and I'm like, this is retarded. I think you're wrong. I think it was really good
Starting point is 00:48:03 for episodes. I was intrigued was really good for I was so intrigued I was intrigued like I was with Lost I was like oh my god so many questions unanswered. I have to know more It wore on me until I was very disinterested with it I'm pretty sure I watched all that there is
Starting point is 00:48:19 Like a lot of horror the characters are too stupid to it ruins it for me If you're gonna go outside Like a lot of horror, the characters are too stupid to... It ruins it for me. Yeah. If you're going to go outside into the axe murderer's lair, then you deserve what you get.
Starting point is 00:48:33 You knew what you were doing. And that's just... It's a group of bad guys that can't run, who catch people all the time. What is happening here? Yeah. It's The Walking dead, though. Fuck, man.
Starting point is 00:48:48 The walking dead. Every time a walker would sneak up on somebody in a forest full of dead leaves and twigs. We've all been in the woods. Woods just like that, I'm sure. You can't sneak up on... Fuck. You hear an acorn fall out of a tree 50 yards away.
Starting point is 00:49:06 You hear limbs break. You know, you cannot be approached. It's almost where you would want to be in a zombie apocalypse. Like, yeah, we live in a tree house in the forest. You can't get anywhere near us without us hearing it. Look at the leaves. But these things would just, we'd be having a conversation about some arguing about shit that doesn't matter having like a drama argument with a woman oh i just don't like the way you're looking at andrea these days with her gaping mouth well i was just i just thought i was
Starting point is 00:49:36 gonna fly in there honey i don't want nothing to do with andrea and then suddenly the thing's on us. And then like a ghoul who has triple cataracts has snuck up on us through the fucking underbrush and is on us on us to the fact that nobody has any kind of self-defense
Starting point is 00:50:00 body posturing. You sneak up on me. My hands are coming up and i'm like i'm like this like i'm ready to like push or strike or like pull you or like just run away i might have gloves and a jacket on you know it's some level of bite protection you know if i'm gonna be outside the walls they're like they like drop their hands straight by their side and go like lip wrists for a while and the thing is like there's no way you bite my fucking throat i'd live like this i'd be nothing but traps there's no way i'd let somebody get anywhere near my throat in the hard times i know i call the i didn't i called when i say hard times uh i do this in my
Starting point is 00:50:37 in my private life with women a lot um what i mean is like any future post-apocalyptic scenario in which I can no longer support you. What I mean is if a girl has bad eyesight, you're not going to be able to make it in the hard times. Or if they're slow or they're easy to spook or scare. Dude, Taylor's right here. Yeah. Well, in preparation for the hard times, I'm going to get those athletic wear goggles.
Starting point is 00:51:03 So that I can wipe the blood off those as I kill zombies. That'd be useful in the apocalypse, too. Could you box without any eyewear? If you and I were in a boxing match, do you think that I would have a big advantage being able to see? You would have an
Starting point is 00:51:19 unbelievable advantage. Probably not great with a firearm either, huh? My vision's so bad. Tyler! Tyler! Zach, switch us. The thing's like...
Starting point is 00:51:36 And you're over there like... Taylor doesn't know this happened. Kyle, is that you? I'd see very clearly your fist when it got to here. Did you guys get fucked up too when Zach moved us around? I was clearly in the wrong spot. Please move us back quickly. No, put me back on the bottom.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I'm a bottom boy. I'm a bottom dude. That's what I like to be. You're the foundation, Taylor. I'm the foundation. And I sit right next to the guest. I'm a bottom boy. I'm a bottom man. That's what I like to be. You're the foundation, Taylor. I'm the foundation, and I sit right next to the guest. You're the atlas. I'm the atlas. I am the Sisyphus pushing the stone.
Starting point is 00:52:14 Kyle and I are the skinny chicks in the cheerleading squad. Yes. I'm tossing you. I catch you. Yeah. If we got in a boxing match, you would have an insane advantage if I had to go. I only bring that up because I worry about you now in the hard times.
Starting point is 00:52:30 I don't know if you could be part of a squad. I got like four pairs of glasses. You're going to sunburn so easy too. That's true. I will sunburn. But that will be a short-term problem. You burn for one season and then you just have bad skin. I don't think we can afford the amount of protein that we need to to keep your physique on the uh you know going i i i'm
Starting point is 00:52:50 worried there's not gonna be enough protein to go around i mean i've got my way and i'm not sharing my i'm not sharing my way dude that's how we would get in an eventual fight is being gains goblins you'd catch me like a like a gremlin eating eating dry protein powder bro why does your breath smell like banana split and I'm like what are you talking about there's powder on my face I have the only canister of banana split whey protein powder on the fucking planet
Starting point is 00:53:17 all the other survivors have hardened a shipping container somehow to keep themselves safe you guys are pulling that gate down in front of the GNC we can steal the protein from our compatriots containers somehow to keep themselves safe. You guys are pulling that gate down in front of the GNC. We just get more we can steal the protein from our compatriots. We don't need them anyway. We're so strong. And then we'd we take
Starting point is 00:53:34 over the group. That's that's how it's always worked. Strong men become chieftains and we rule with an iron fist. Man, that would be so fun to be the chieftain and so terrible to not. I don't think that's true. I don't think of this chieftain as strong i think of him as wise and often old i guess it depends on the vibe you can be like a genghis khan or an attila the hun style chieftain where it's like i'm gonna do what attila says because he just crucified that guy
Starting point is 00:54:00 for for like smirking at him yeah if you're gonna be the guy you've got to kill the guy that that was there before right like that's the only way it's happening he's not gonna be like and i choose kyle as my successor i'm going to go off and retire on wait with the zombie apocalypse right no i'm gonna stay in charge and then i have to kill him i have to choke him out defense like gingus kong he couldn't have been the toughest person in all of asia that certainly isn't how native Americans did it. He had a very interesting ruling style. He was very tolerant of other religions, I learned. One of the things that seemed commonplace then
Starting point is 00:54:33 is you would go someplace and if they worshiped some silly god, you just kill them all in honor of your god. But Genghis was like, no, no, no, no. Just send 10% of your warriors to come fight for me and pay your tithes and be a Mongolian like me. And like, I don't care. Spaceman in the sky? Sure.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Jesus. Two syllables? Okay, sure. Do that. He genuinely didn't care. But when he was slighted, there was that one situation where I think he had sent emissaries
Starting point is 00:55:01 or someone to go talk to a city. And they may have killed the emissaries or something like that. I think he boiled those people alive or something. He had crazy executions sometimes that were just meant to instill fear. I'm pretty sure he boiled those people alive. I wouldn't put it past him. Losing to Genghis Khan with resistance was the worst thing you could think of. But giving up to Genghis Khan
Starting point is 00:55:27 was actually a really good thing. They'd probably wipe out your leadership and everyone else would take over. There'd be a meritocracy. There's some wokeness to the new leadership style. You'd get new technology, maybe? Maybe. I think he just made it a really good thing
Starting point is 00:55:42 to surrender to him. Yeah, he did. That it a really good thing. This Mongolian saddle. Yeah, he did. I mean, that was a common warfare tactic. It's like when you invade a land, you are brutal to the first town or two that you encounter. Like unbelievably ruthless. And then the third town you show up to, they're all expecting the same.
Starting point is 00:56:04 And then you throw out a, hey, we can skip this whole thing, you know this dude who's my mongol buddy he's in charge of all of you now and they're like all right we're in like okay like you're in charge mr mr white my history teacher in 10th grade taught me this and i don't know if it's true or not because he lied to me about the spartans but he said that the the hittites would go to a new city that they intended to conquer. And in tow with them, they would have these cages of people from the last city. And they would break their arms and legs and stuff them into a crate that they would never fit into otherwise. And they would display those crates full of screaming, mangled people.
Starting point is 00:56:41 These are the people from the last city. They also did not want to surrender. This is Dave. the people from the last city. They also did not want to surrender. This is Dave. He's from the city before. Hey! You should really surrender! You should really surrender! Look at this hat they got me! I took it
Starting point is 00:56:58 from that guy! And so you would have this binary decision. Well, I could be like Dave and just work with the Hittites and become maybe they call me a Hittite from now on myself. Maybe I have to speak a different tongue or maybe I have to pay a tax or I could fight. And if they win, I end up mangled in that crate, maybe as like an example for the next city. Yeah. I don't know if that's true or not, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:57:23 I bet it's true. The Romans crucified like spartacus and his guys all up all of them yeah how many was it is it 2 000. it was a lot there there were it was a way bigger force than that at one point and they were causing a huge the first and second rebellions i don't think were very successful but i think spartacus was the third rebellion and they were really doing a good job until the Roman military showed up. 6,000 were crucified along a 130-mile stretch of the road. Dude, the Roman legionaries came to play.
Starting point is 00:57:58 They came to that game, Game 7 mentality, absolute domination. Game seven mentality, absolute domination. Can you imagine the message that sends? Like 6,000 along 103 miles. I can't exactly picture how frequent that is, that there's a man nailed to a cross on the side of the road. Yeah. Oh, yeah, 6,000 for 100 miles.
Starting point is 00:58:24 It's like one every 50 feet, roughly, think so you would you'd be smelling dead bodies the entire i'll say 100 miles 100 miles divided by 20 000 feet yeah divided by 6 000 so one every 900 feet ish 900 feet that's different than 50. That is, but it's still not... You can still see them. There's always one you can turn around and see both. It's a shame you can't see your buddies, though. Who's that? I wonder if that's Dave.
Starting point is 00:58:57 I hope that's Dave. He was still high on his toes. I'm trying to die here. Yeah, we're all hot, Dave. Are you thirsty? Maybe I'll give you some of the vinegar they gave me, you bitch. Crucifixion.
Starting point is 00:59:15 That is... And it's real. Some of the horrible, horrible tortures are fake. They're just someone's imagination. It was never a thing that happened crucifixion they people up with that they still do yeah wait yeah they still do where isis isis was crucifying christians a couple years ago lots of them hmm yeah they're cool well my sins are covered pretty useless ices are like the worst you know i don't like them either
Starting point is 00:59:46 i don't care how i don't care if people hate me for this opinion yeah i don't like talk about fucking propaganda and brave stances i just um on my feed one of my military channels that i watched like popped up with this video. Like, Ukrainian snipers, the best in the world. And it's like, these brave Ukrainian snipers are... Who are supposedly the bad guys over there? Not the Palestinians. No, no, no. The other
Starting point is 01:00:16 conflict. Hamas. They are Hamas' worst nightmare. I thought you said Ukrainians. I thought I said Israelis. I meant Israelis. But just on and on, like, sucking Israel's's dick and i was like god the comments have there has to be somebody here who's like i don't know it seems like aren't those the snipers that kneecap children like like that's what i mean and hit a six-year-old's kneecap from 800 yards away guys obviously
Starting point is 01:00:43 in a hospital working to treat people and they shoot nurses through the window? The fuck? That nurse had a knife in her hand. What, he's standing over a body? Now, he couldn't. He was outside and he looks in through a window and he sees this ghoulish person
Starting point is 01:01:00 wearing a mask. First of all, the woman's wearing a mask. What was that about? During surgery? She had some sort of razor knife. A box cutter. When have we seen those used before? 9-11. 9-11, never forget.
Starting point is 01:01:15 And she was standing over a child. So they bombed the hospital. And I know that that child was already hurt while she was doing that because i shot him too that's that's look at his kneecap obliterated i'm trying to avoid like all the violent clips but like just on twitter randomly like i'll scroll and it'll be like some kid getting sniped and it's like what like why is this being served to me? I didn't click on that. Like, I don't want death content in my feed.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Yeah, I think I saw something about a ceasefire coming up for six weeks ceasefire in exchange for 40 or 42 hostages. So at least they're going to they're going to basically they're going to stop beating that guy outside the bar up and somebody is going to check on him. I don't think they're doing well. I think they've lost a tremendous amount of their population. Come on. And all of their infrastructure. The Palestinians, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:09 I think they bit off more than they could chew. They were doing so well before this, too. Like, they were... Well, they looked good for a day. They had a good day. They were doing better as, like... They had, like, buildings and stuff, which is a big part of life having buildings
Starting point is 01:02:26 yeah being able to go inside well now that look now now they get to get to introduce for to something from the first world called van life a whole bunch of toyota tacomas oh wait we probably already did let them drive around have a good time it's just camping now yeah that one's rough i don't i don't i don't uh i don't like that i can't look at it you know on this just the facts i'm like yeah they should go in there and get those bad guys out of there like i'm all for that if there's bad guys in there that intend to like invade israel again and kill people again and we really need to get those bad guys out of there.
Starting point is 01:03:06 But it's just been months of them bombing those cities sort of indiscriminately. It's clearly like, alright, maybe not indiscriminately. They're hitting the targets they want to hit, but with zero regard for who else is there. Collective punishment is the strategy, not the accident. It's a feature, not a bug. It's going according to
Starting point is 01:03:22 plan. Like they're trying to scare them out of that region so they can have it. I want the population to not like the Hamas leadership. Everyone's like, Hamas was elected. What was that, like 20 years ago? I guess they were.
Starting point is 01:03:36 2006, you say? Going on 20 years, yeah. Yeah, so I just don't know how responsible we should hold the current population. Isn't Palestine like the youngest nation on the planet or one of them? Most of the people living there are kids. How many of them voted for Hamas? How many of them can vote?
Starting point is 01:03:55 Yeah. Well, how many could vote? Not as many today. 18 years ago. They do this thumb print. So anyway. It's pretty awful over there uh i'm still team ukraine uh i know not everyone else i'm team leave eastern europe
Starting point is 01:04:15 to their own devices i don't know what goes on over there i don't want to know you drop where does eastern europe end where they start putting umlauts and Z's in common names. It's like Poland. Western Russia is Eastern Europe. Russia's in Europe. Moscow's Europe, I think. Are you closer to Western Russia or Eastern Russia right now, Woody?
Starting point is 01:04:39 No, I assumed Western, but I don't know for sure. It wraps around, you know. All the way to Alaska. I assumed western, but I don't know for sure. It wraps around, you know. Yeah, yeah. All the way to Alaska. That's what they should do to one of those flat earthers. They should just have them walk from Alaska to fucking England. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Of all the things to get into, I'm so fascinated by the flat earth thing. You're definitely closer to eastern Russia than western Russia because Alaska's way the fuck closer. There's definitely closer to eastern Russia than western Russia because Alaska is way up there. There's no reason to lie about the shape of the earth. What do you gain from it? I don't get it.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Clicks on YouTube for feigning an incredibly ignorant position because half the people want to believe and the other half want to correct you. That's what I think. I've always said that. There are some people who look,
Starting point is 01:05:29 nobody talks about the fact that a lot of people are really dumb, like really stupid, like really stupid, like you can't have a conversation with them. Those people are easily convinced if you tell them, look, they don't want you to know this. They don't think you're smart enough for this. And they're like,
Starting point is 01:05:44 people have been telling me that my whole life, that don't want you to know this. They don't think you're smart enough for this. And they're like, people have been telling me that my whole life. I wasn't smart enough to know things. It's like, yeah, it's a factory, Jim. Just push the button. But they think there's a big conspiracy that if I knew the world was flat, I'd have done so much with my life. I didn't know it was so easy to just go to the other end of the map. That's what was holding me back.
Starting point is 01:06:04 That's what held me back my whole life. Gravity. The belief in gravity has held me back. And then there's a lot of people with mental illness, you know, like who are quick to believe that maybe the birds are spying on them or they're being gang stalked. Like there's a lot of mental illnesses that as sort of a feature feature of that mental illness you're very self-important you're like oh it's all about me they're watching me they're after me and then you never stop to
Starting point is 01:06:32 think what's so fucking special about you that anyone cares what you're fucking doing bro are you involved with any secret societies do you have the thumb drive do you know that you have the zielinski files you got the don Trump pee tapes? Then no one cares. No one cares. If you're just a normal guy, no one is watching you. No one cares what you're up to. Yeah, the feds are not investing huge amounts of money to spy on a schizophrenic person living in subsidized housing. You know, that's the whole premise of a great Mel Gibson movie called Conspiracy Theory.
Starting point is 01:07:07 He is a whack job conspiracy theorist who's always bothering his local Tribune news reporter with, like, you've got to look at this. These are the files. This proves it all, everything of it. And so he's also safeguarded his apartment. It's like a Faraday cage, which is like you use aluminum and other um things to block out electromagnetic signals coming in or going out um he's got every he's got the apartment rigged so that like he can burn his hard drives with a single flick of a button that sort of thing but he doesn't have anything because he's a whack job who's just on the internet
Starting point is 01:07:38 learning thing until then he gets one right get one right and that triggers a whole like Patrick Stewart is like the CIA black coat who's coming in like how do you know how do you know what you know and he's like haha and they're torturing him and stuff trying to get it out of him it's a fun movie and he plays a good schizophrenic we're out of time
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