Painkiller Already - PKN 506

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn 506 what's up boys how's it going oh it's going good i've been watching uh dan carlin's supernova in the east if you don't know dan carlin's basically a historian he does these long form heavily researched well put together um audio videos it's most it's audio but i'm watching it on youtube i'm eight and a half hours in and and we're and pearl harbor just ended it's eight and a half hours until pearl harbor stops like like do you get to pearl harbor and then he tells those events like the third video starting point yeah did you start um japan invading china in 1931 um and like and the reasons for their period. It's been like a decade.
Starting point is 00:00:47 If the starting point was the beginning of recorded time, then Pearl Harbor is pretty far along. Yeah, then he's flying. What's called supernova in the east. He's talking about Japan, the rising sun of Japan going supernova and turning imperialist. The motivations behind that are very important.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Understanding the racial undertones of the whole world and how the Japanese were underestimated as yellow monkeys by the entire world. They were like, oh, they're very good at copying technology, but they could never craft their own because the Japanese were in this isolationist period. Well, the Japanese were in this isolationist period for a very, very long time, hundreds and hundreds of years.
Starting point is 00:01:24 They come out of it and they send envoys to all the major countries. So they send one to England. Learn how Navy works. They copy the English Navy. They're the best Navy in the world. Why wouldn't they? They said they send them everywhere. Military art is everything. They want to be the best at everything. And it's interesting. He describes the Japanese people as just like everyone else, just more so. And it's like, yeah, they do everything with such an intensity and such rigor that it goes overboard. And then because they've had this period of isolationist, they've romanticized just how rigid to Bushido their ancestors were.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Just how good that the way we look at maybe medieval Knights and think of Knights and shining armor, who do not do only good, tell only truths, protect the weak. Okay. All right. Our politicians say some similar vows.
Starting point is 00:02:16 They don't keep up with them, but because these guys have never known personally that, that ruling Bushido military class, they've heavily romanticized it. And so he tells all this to sort of load you up for what's coming in world war two. personally that that ruling bushido military class they've heavily romanticized it and so he tells all this to sort of load you up for what's coming in world war ii i'm fascinated it's so good so you're done with the engines already i learned all that there was all that there was to know there's almost four days of history there what i did what i did was i went
Starting point is 00:02:44 through all the resources available to me without going to a library or something. Yeah, without a book. Well, it's like, as I go further, it's like, yeah, I know this. I know about that ritual. I know that they would tie those loops through the skin in their chest and then tie it to the pole and do their dance for days on end. I know that that tribe had their spear had a crook in the end,
Starting point is 00:03:04 like a shepherd's crook, and they would stab it into the ground, and they'd tie a piece of leather from that to their leg to make sure they didn't take one step back. I went through it all. I wanted you to learn all the details of the different human sacrifice rituals so you could teach me about all
Starting point is 00:03:19 the ways they varied. How did the Incas do it? How did the Mayans do it? Did the Aztecs revolutionize it? So they believed. How did the Incas do it? How did the Mayans do it? Did the Aztecs revolutionize it? So they believed so the Aztecs believed that the more the person suffered and screamed, the more powerful the blood magic would
Starting point is 00:03:36 be so that they could build a closer bond to the gods or entities they were trying to appease or connect with. So it was very important that this person die afraid and terrified. Thank God the Spanish showed up. So they would hold you down. Four people would hold you down,
Starting point is 00:03:50 sort of almost bent over backwards over this like bowed stone structure so that you're really exposed. He would plunge the knife in. And the goal was to tear your heart out rapidly, like as fast as possible. So you're alive when it happens. They want to show you your heart if possible. Like that's the, and you can imagine you do this a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Maybe you get good at it. Like you're, you're like that guy, that Japanese guy slicing up those tuna. You're just in and out. Yeah. You're like Jiro dreams of sushi, but with torture, but with torture. Yeah. Yeah. With ripping hearts out.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Yeah. Uh, probably a good thing. We put a, put a stop to that. I don't know. I mean, you think it was working the human sacrifice? out. Yeah, probably a good thing we put a stop to that. I don't know. You think it was working, the human sacrifice? Well, they did they lost badly when like a group much smaller
Starting point is 00:04:34 than them showed up. That's part of it. Earth's temperatures started rising ever since the human sacrifice stopped. So Cortez only had a few hundred men with him and there's that famous quote of him like never in history have had such men as us come so few and conquered so many. But they'd also went around and they'd gotten all the tribes that the main Aztec aristocrats or whatever had been bullying forever and were like, hey, you tired of them raiding your village and sacrificing your people? Because that's what they do.
Starting point is 00:05:02 They weren't necessarily killing, like, your neighbor and and sacrificing him you'd go get those jungle people like we it's all it's a lot like mel gibson's apocalypto if you've seen that which is fantastic a lot of the the south americans and central americans were were very stoked when they got that offer from the spanish at least from what i learned where they're like oh these gun people are going to save us from those step pyramid building sacrificers. This is kind of nice. Yeah, they just want to go, though. They just want to go. You know, the Spanish had this idea
Starting point is 00:05:35 that El Dorado existed, and part of it was because early English explorers who had gone into the Amazon either came back and lied or saw something we still haven't found. That's the only two ways about it. I bet they were fibbing, looking for more funding. That's where I want to be too, but here's the facts. The guy who came back and told the lies was like, please send me back. Send me and my son back. And they gave their lives looking
Starting point is 00:06:01 for what he had found before leading these expeditions down the Amazon, looking for these golden cities and these huge civilizations that were supposedly there. Some people say that disease was introduced and those cities just went away. All the people died. They ended up melting back into the jungle when the leadership and the whole tower of cards came down. They find ruins. Well, we haven't plowed the we haven't well what they've done is that they can't the amazon rainforest is still there you know so they've used that um it's not lidar it's they've used um ground penetrating aerial radar of some
Starting point is 00:06:38 kind some sort of sensor and they found large compounds and large um where cities once were but not where cities were a couple hundred years ago, where maybe they were hundreds and hundreds of years ago, but then it is the Amazon rainforest. So I don't know, but I love the, the guy who, who talks about like ancient civilizations where it's like,
Starting point is 00:06:59 like there have been thousands of years. George Carlin's the comedian. Oh, Dan, Dan Carlin, Dan Carlin. Dan Carlin. So he does. The one who's like they're not Atlantis, but like imagine an analogy for Atlantis, like a sophisticated technology, more technologically advanced society that got eliminated.
Starting point is 00:07:16 No, that's Graham Hancock. So Graham Hancock, as much as I enjoy his works on Go Blackie Tappy and all the books he's written, I've read a couple of them. He's more on the side of like, wouldn't it be cool if, you know, let's kind of go along with this and it'll be fun to imagine. That would be cool if. Dan Carlin is a very respected, heavily researched historian. So he does stuff on Genghis Khan, stuff on Alexander the Great. And when you hear him speak, you'll realize he's not making his mind up about something.
Starting point is 00:07:44 He'll read from contradictory sources, for example. You're like, well, we're discussing the rape of Nanking. It's like, okay, so here's what these people say happened. Here's what these people say happened. And here's what these people say happened. Here's the evidence. Here's a missionary who was there in Nanking, a white Westerner, and what they said happened. Here's this. And you draw your own conclusions at the end. He'll be like, look,
Starting point is 00:08:08 these numbers go from 1,000 to 100,000. And just so we're clear, the 100,000 isn't the highest number that people claim. Some people say it was 5 million. When the Japanese went into China, they killed for a decade. When they raped Nanking, as it's called. It wasn't like he compares it to the Assyrians taking a city and how three days of barbarism and the city fell and, you know, burning, raping, pillaging, not killing the dogs and cats, raping the boys, raping the women, killing all the men, slaughtering everything. And then the king tells the story of how I levied the rivers and allowed them to flood the city. It was nothing but what was before a sprawling metropolis was now a flooded meadow. Nature itself could not have wrought such destruction upon my enemy. And it's like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:08:54 But when you get to Nanking, three months of occupation and not just hanging out, raping and killing. For three months, they stayed in this gigantic, the capital of China at the time, and just raped and murdered and tortured and killing. For three months they stayed in this gigantic, the capital of China at the time, and just raped and murdered and tortured and killed. And they go through the eyewitness testimony of the Westerners and what they saw, all of the ways
Starting point is 00:09:14 they found bodies, the conditions that they were in and it's just everything you can imagine. Cut apart, dissected, split down the middle, split in half, just all sorts of evil. What was the build of Sector 7? Something like that in World War 2. down the middle split in half just all sorts of evil what was the uh build the sector seven something something like that in world war ii oh unit 731 unit 731 that's what it was yeah yeah yeah the uh and also a thing that i didn't know was the japanese were extremely um they believed
Starting point is 00:09:38 that they were the master race of asians they they they thought that the... They still do. They believed it enough that the extermination of those people seemed like a good idea and the subjugation of them seemed like a good idea. One of my close friends is she's Asian, Chinese, and born in China and then grew up mostly here. And she'll, every once in a while if someone asks, she'll, they'll be like,
Starting point is 00:10:06 what, what, what's the, the racism situation like over in Asia? And she'll just be like, Oh, like so much more than like, like white people could handle.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Like white people are so sensitive about all that shit. Like, like she'll be like, yeah, the Japanese, they think they're, you know, the cat's pajamas.
Starting point is 00:10:24 They think they're at the tippity top. And then, the cat's pajamas they think they're at the tippity top and then you know the chinese think they're at the tippity top so i think we're a little better than the the japanese you know they got one over on us a few times admittedly but i think we're number one and then i'd say koreans probably rank three and then someone asked her was like what about like thailand you know laos the philippines and she's like oh us the japanese and the koreans all could not care less about the jungle asians we're all better than the jungle asians absolutely yeah i've heard that term before yeah and and the record is worse than that for the japs and the chinese like 1v1s because it goes back so far jingis khan's grandson kublai khan was the leader of china he was sitting on the throne of china at the time
Starting point is 00:11:11 and he was the one who started that first uh invasion of japan where they were going to send 50 000 troops or something by ship across the you know the gap from and and there was a massive storm sunk their fleet and that's they call it the you know divine wind from and and there was a massive storm sunk their fleet and that's they call it the you know divine wind the tsunami and then or not tsunami um typhoon it was a storm but the divine wind is uh it was is um kamikaze um that's that's the word that's the word oh yeah okay it means divine wind um and so what's your next era i it's going to take me so fucking long just to cover the Japs in World War II. I've probably got another 20 hours of that. Does part of you want to go super ancient with it, like the Babylonians?
Starting point is 00:11:53 I want to hear Kyle become a Vietnam expert. I think that's interesting. Well, they touch on Vietnam as it pertains to Japan and colonialism, because the French had been fighting in Vietnam for a long time, right after World War II. Their fight sort of begins in like 51 or so in Vietnam. I don't know. Vietnam sucks.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Vietnam's no fun. You've got so much political American shit where nobody's resolute in what we're trying to do and you've got just a boring war this is not a fun war understand how we were so heavily committed yet somehow fighting with one arm behind our back and what the logic was for the way that we did this and public opinion getting re-elected hmm yeah that's a challenge winning wars with the democracy yeah winning wars when they're very winning very unpopular wars yeah when you look at how to maintain popularity i mean when wars are won it's nasty it's a war um you know it's bad people
Starting point is 00:12:58 get bayoneted in the streets um we talk about the american soldiers quickly trying to rush the battlefield so they could execute all the dead Japanese before the officers could call them off. Because if you tried to deal with them, they almost always had a grenade in their hand. Remember that grenade and fucking the true story. You guys don't like it as much. But the Band of Brothers Japanese version. Pacific. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Pacific. I've seen I've seen it multiple times. And a lot of the stuff that's happened happens in the Pacific or straight from real accounts. The guy cutting the teeth out of the guy's head. Like that really happened. That makes sense. They were using real gold. You may as well, you know, make a little money.
Starting point is 00:13:32 While the guy was still alive. Okay, well, at least kill him, you know. With a knife. Yeah. And paying no mind to him screaming as the knife like. I. Buttered it into his mouth. Seems like he's at risk of getting bit.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Yeah. He's got a big fucking knife. He's. I don't want to brag, but I would have killed him first. He's at risk of getting bit. He's got a big fucking knife. I don't want to brag, but I would have killed him first. That's just my morals. I don't want to brag, but I'd use my Leatherman pliers if I was there. The way better tool. Alright, Toad Job is going to hurt you more than me.
Starting point is 00:13:59 This Woody guy's a psychopath. He's not even keeping the teeth. That was a regular tooth. I i know i'm excited for you to bounce around past world war ii and then i want to learn more about like babylon assyria those ancient ancient persia the ancient greeks it's it's such a cool time and there's so much to learn does he do does he not do stuff about he does all of that the next thing is going to be alexander the great uh i want to learn about alexander the great because he seems like almost a fictional character he's such a
Starting point is 00:14:36 badass like he's conquering did he win his first battle he's 16 or something like like he makes you feel like a loser like you they show like images of what he conquered and how much there was and it's like here's what he had after his 85th battle at the age of 21 and it's like oh like this is rough to compare yourself to great people taylor will appreciate this eric lindros he's a hockey player played for for the Flyers. Our birthdays are like one day apart. I'm there working tech support for a software company, and he's scoring goals at night. Dude, I'll do that now. I wonder what Vladimir Tarasenko's up to,
Starting point is 00:15:17 playing for the Rangers or whoever he gets traded to now. Oh, thinking about your age. I'll check. And it's like, no, he can't be eight months younger than me that can't be possible i have no nhl goals not a single one and yeah you're falling behind i'm so far behind i think my dreams are dead i don't think i'm gonna crash the league so speaking of 16 year old like warlords um woody's favorite terrorist um Kateroff, that guy in Belarus or whatever. UFC fighter, probably.
Starting point is 00:15:50 I don't know this person. He's the one that pays people like Justin Gaethje and Triple C to come to his terrorist country and shoot guns. And he also, he's the one who has that hair-lipped guy uh chamayev like you know remember how i was talking about he'll let the 16 year old boy like beat chamayev up for instagram like the warlord son this is the warlord son he's been made the the head of special forces this is true i was just talking about comparing myself to seeing myself on camera like man your cheeks look a little fat and then this dude comes up'm sexy as fuck, and I'm 51 compared to this 16-year-old who's chubby and pimply and just, he's ugly.
Starting point is 00:16:31 Now, if he may have one more growth spurt in him, you know, that's that. Yeah, he might. He might. Yeah, yeah. He's basically a prince. I mean, he is a prince, so I think he's got that going for him. Yeah. I could steal this guy's girlfriend or he could just be fat
Starting point is 00:16:47 Kim Jong-un does not have enough growth I think he'd be tortured if he tried you're probably right about that can you show this guy's picture the guys he's commanding have sharp jaw lines I bet so you don't want to it says they put him in charge of special forces
Starting point is 00:17:04 which is fun what is he what does he think It says they put him in charge of special forces. What does he think? He must know he doesn't deserve anything that he has. This kid can't run a quarter mile. He's leading the special forces at 16 years old? I hate this kid, but I'm going to have to strongly disagree. He's very athletic, and he can operate that rifle, too. I mean, if you go to the terrorist Instagram, and you'll see that, like...
Starting point is 00:17:31 What is he doing athletically? UFC fighting. Wait, this kid is? Of course, he beat up Jemaya multiple times. He's always wearing... Oh, that is impressive. See, that's the thing. Almost unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:17:42 These guys are, like, super fans of mixed martial arts. He's got a UFC gym in his house. Yeah. I struggle to believe he trains a lot. This is a weight class-based sport. That makes sense. What do you like more, Kyle? Do you like the MMA Russians or the hockey Russians?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Oh, the hockey Russians for sure. Because the hockey Russians are playing their national sport, something ingrained in them i'm sure and i do admire when i hear about like the russians coming over and playing against the more physical americans and when i say more physical i mean the cheating americans and their reaction isn't to to get mad and and like stoop to our level it's to be like you guys don't know how to play this fucking game and it's kind of like we're to go home and we're not going to talk about how we lost the Americans. We're going to talk about how Americans are losers.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Dude, the version... I can't even fathom that thought process. That's my viewpoint. The Americans beating up the Russian team is literally like another space race version where they're like, we made it to orbit first. We did this first, that first. First living thing. And then we get to the moon and we're like we made it to orbit first we did this first that first
Starting point is 00:18:45 first living thing and then we get to the moon and we're like we win everything we outscored them too we outscored them we beat them up we dominated them in every category of the game and and what did the except for complaining to the refs they got us there they complained to the refs that was their strategy and they lost some they lost in every regard. They'd call those in the playoffs. Like those are some playoff penalties. The Americans were assaulting fellow athletes who were more skillful than them because it's the only way that they could not get embarrassed in their own. Bobby Clark had no teeth and a permanent case of bad breath because he soaked
Starting point is 00:19:21 himself in some sort of fluid that he felt helped with muscle recovery. It's piss, isn't it? This guy was guy was all god i hate playing with this guy he's like it's not every way it's mostly this isn't it yeah i'll give you that yeah i mean if my opponent if my teammates hate this so much imagine my foes this guy he was just like he nothing mattered except winning hockey games he didn't care about his own health he didn't care about anything except that he won hockey games and nobody wanted to come to philly and we won championships the the american canadian hockey players there was a period it's not the truth anymore but like there was a time especially in that soviet era where like they just were better at the truth anymore but like there was a time especially in that soviet era
Starting point is 00:20:05 where like they just were better at the game of hockey like they were smoother at it they had better offensive structures their passing was better there like you can watch them like kind of dipsy do like you remember pavel datsuk like of course it was after that era kyle can't help get him to stop talking about that so you pop Papa. They were basically that spook of the time, except not physical at all. And it took the Canadians and the Americans being hyper-physical to try and spook them. And then over time, the Canadians...
Starting point is 00:20:35 I got to give Canada some credit. They really figured it out and got way better. Americans now are getting to the point where we're as good as Canadians at hockey for almost, we're starting to get there. We're like, our superstars are on Canadian levels. Cause for so long it was like,
Starting point is 00:20:53 even our number three to one, right? Like, holy shit. Like, yeah. Well, I mean in raw numbers,
Starting point is 00:20:58 way more than that, but like Georgia doesn't count. It used to be like a guy like Connor McDavid, like a Canadian. Okay. It was likeavid like a canadian okay it's like oh he's the best in the world yeah so you'd have like you'd have like an american you'd have like an american superstar that every once in a while would break out and like like a brett hall where it's like this guy's like an all-time goal scorer and he's fucking american sure he grew up in canada but like he was born in amer. Now they have Austin Matthews born in Phoenix,
Starting point is 00:21:27 best goal scorer in the league right now. And that's kind of neat because it used to be like there was the tier of... Was he raised in Phoenix? He was raised in Phoenix, yeah. I know basketball instantly turned you off, but a lot of the best players in the world are European now. I watched the game last night.
Starting point is 00:21:42 We had $5 on it. I don't remember the last time America had an MVP, like the league best player. What? LeBron James? Four years ago? I don't – look, that guy's 39. He's a great player.
Starting point is 00:21:52 He's still top 10, but he's not MVP. The last MVP was a sixer, Joel Embiid. Before that, it was Jokic twice, and he's Serbian. Before that, I think it was Giannis, and he's Greek. And before that, I don't know, American. But this next one's not going to be American either, this year's. Now, that seems absurd that we're not perennially.
Starting point is 00:22:16 I think it is out of date, man. The European game is like... I guess, you know, I don't follow basketball at all, but when I do see it, because I get sports stuff served to me on Twitter and whatnot, and disproportionately, there's a dude in Texas who's Donchich or something like that. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, Luka.
Starting point is 00:22:36 I saw Luka Donchich. White guy. That guy's not fucking American, very clearly. And apparently he's like wrecking people. And then I know that other guy you just mentioned the joker joking and he has like the most eastern european face and eastern european hair you've ever seen you would love him taylor i think i told you before i might have said this already but they're like how do you play defense he's a guy that i stayed in front of him and i try to make
Starting point is 00:23:01 him hard is he the guy that guy that plays basketball because he's incredible at it and they're like, what are you going to do with the championship? And he's like, I go back to Serbia, play with my horses. You would not believe how much I love horses. He won the championship last year for the first time. I love that. And they're all like, are you looking forward to the parade?
Starting point is 00:23:21 He's like, what? Parade? When is parade? And they're like, it's thursday it's like no no i just want to go home and he's like i know basketball is a job for me i'm like everyone else i i don't like my job i you know maybe some people like the job they are lying yeah damn i'm really have to get on the parade does he have to be on that fucking float because i'm gonna go to your championship turned out i wouldn't want after the parade he was like this is a good time yeah i'd be like you think i did this for you people you know what i mean like that'd be my attitude i'm not playing i'm not trying i'm not sinking those baskets for the for the people in the fucking crowd.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Certainly not the Lakers crowd. I watched the game last night. I bet $25 that the NBA writers would keep LeBron in it for at least one more game. And goddamn, if they didn't maintain the lead in the game, the Lakers that is, for about three quarters of the fucking game the lakers went no they lost at the very end by like two points or something i have a theory on that i think it's because denver has the cardio from training a mile high they've had a bunch of comebacks and they just always seem to win in the fourth quarter and better cardio you think mile high yeah altitude training yeah i i
Starting point is 00:24:45 put a lot um into that theory because i've seen it play out time and time again um and high altitude fighting environment so they have fights in mexico city and they have fights in uh in denver and mexico city's altitude might be 7 000 feet in denver's of course the mile high um so it's around almost exactly 5 280 feet yeah and it's so close and oh my god you're like whoa what happened did he not work out this guy not even did he do no cardio because they're just gas ramp you see their mouths open it's like this guy usually has a gas tank so that he can sprint for three rounds and tonight he's clearly pacing himself. It's a big deal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:27 But anyway, basketball is born international. Oh, there's one last thing. I was listening to this guy on the Olympic team and he's like, I thought we were going to win automatically. I forget who it was, but he's like, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:37 we got LeBron on the team. We got ad on the team. We got Kevin Durant on the team. He just listing all these like hyper stars. He's like, I thought we'd show up and never lose. We'd win without barely trying. We lost three games. They did get the gold, but it was hard. Your team is still in for now. Yes, and my fan base is very disappointed.
Starting point is 00:26:03 They just need to win, push it to game six and then seven and then seven they are down three well i'm pulling for the 76ers fuck the the knicks thank you for that can't stand the knicks we're down three one it should be two two if i showed you the play you'd see they absolutely mugged a guy at the end of the game. Like they fouled him three times in like three seconds. They pulled him to the ground by his Jersey. And then the coach was calling timeout twice and the refs were looking at the coach, but they didn't call the timeout.
Starting point is 00:26:35 I don't know why that happened. You showed me that clip. That was ridiculous. Yeah. Sixers fans and everyone kind of agrees they should have won that game, but they're not going to change it. So now they're down three, one and the sixes, the fans anyway,
Starting point is 00:26:48 are already talking about next year. In the other sport of the NHL, your Carolina Hurricanes are up 3-1 on the New York Islanders. And I think the Canes probably have their best shot at a cup this year than they've had in a long time because there's no way they lose another one to the Islanders. They're going to win tonight, for sure. I shouldn't say that. I have a notoriously bad record at predicting sports.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Me too. I'd like to see either them get one. Or, man, I feel so bad for Toronto fans. Because they haven't won a Stanley Cup since 1967. And they care. And they care so, so deeply about it. And they've, so the way the division works, Kyle, and the divisions over time, is they often get paired up, Toronto against the Boston Bruins.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And you know how there are just rivalries in sports where one side almost always wins the toronto maple leafs have not had a winning series in the playoffs against the boston bruins since 1957 or 1959 something like that it's like 75 years it's an unreal amount of time people have lived full lives and died fans aren't mean about it or anything they don't do tants or make t-shirts dude i'll see like bruins hockey fans like before the series even starts to be like dude i'm not even fucking nervous dude like there's not there's no chance and then the toronto maple leafs fans are having a conniption but the the bruins are up three-1. I said I thought Toronto had a good shot this year to do something,
Starting point is 00:28:27 and it's looking like I was wrong again. I guess I don't even dislike the Bruins. Why would I? Last time we met them, we won a Stanley Cup, so it worked out. But, man, poor Toronto. They're so sad all the time. It's the only team their whole city cares about. It's hard to be a player there too.
Starting point is 00:28:49 If you're not just coated in gold gleaming every game, they're hassling you when you fill your car with gas. If you suck dick on the Carolina Hurricanes, you could score on your own goalie and then go to
Starting point is 00:29:06 like the grocery store the next day and no one's gonna know but the toronto fans like they're taking close-up videos of the guys talking to each other on the bench and having like hey toronto lip reader here and then like saying what's going on what their best player austin matthews had to leave the game probably not by his own volition. The team doctors and medics and whatnot have to step in. Apparently, he's sick and was food poisoning
Starting point is 00:29:34 or was too dehydrated to keep playing. It would be my guess. The whole fan base is like, players for the fucking Bruins and the blues and the Kings. They'll break a foot and keep playing. But Austin Matthews has an upset tummy and he can't get out there.
Starting point is 00:29:53 Poor guy. Fuck him. And they're just, they're so mad. One of the reasons the Sixers are struggling, we're really dependent on our best player and he's really, really good. But without him,
Starting point is 00:30:04 we're nothing. And right now, like his knee is fucked he can barely jump he had surgically removed a meniscus a couple weeks ago and he has bell's palsy so he has to blink with this hand he reaches up and closes his eye and he's still powering through it and he scored two games ago and won it for us. the narrative is that he sucks. Man keeps his eye on the ball. He don't blink. I hear he paralyzed the side of his face intentionally so he never misses a play. He paralyzed the side of his brain that makes him nervous.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Does Bell's palsy only affect your face? It doesn't seem to bother below the neck that I can tell i don't know it's not they put the something neurological going on to cause face paralysis but i guess if you're able to play in an nba playoff game it's not that severe yeah anybody's got bell's palsy now i'm like get over it how many points could you score 50 i don't think so. Probably none. Speaking of bonafide superstars, are you guys ready to get manhandled in Scribbleo
Starting point is 00:31:10 again? Oh my goodness. We played this game called Scribbleo and basically you got it doesn't matter how many people are on our team, but a bunch of people on our team and we take turns drawing with our mouse a word that's given to us, the secret word. And so the team has to guess the word and type it
Starting point is 00:31:25 okay so it's like vocabulary type it in so it requires vocabulary spelling and typing and taylor is like a nine out of ten on all three of those fucking skills i think you're underestimating not so like not only will he get it rather quickly but he'll know how to spell it the first try, which is important, and he'll get the input in rapidly. And he dominated at this game. I've seen few people dominate at any game. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:55 He's just fucking dunking on us. And he's worried about his lead. He's up by thousands of points. He knows what he's coming for. He doesn't even have to play anymore. I'm not a fast typer. I'm like 55 words a minute but i would spell like direction or compass at 55 words a minute symmetrical i'm down to like
Starting point is 00:32:12 seven as i process that slowly trying to like how many m's so it's s y and that's if you guess the word like you have to guess the word then you have to spell it correctly dude i forgot how to spell cloud like i swear i don't know how i forgot how to spell cloud that was a funny moment but part of it was in there it was cloudy actually yeah it was cloudy that's what it was and something about it being cloudy. I wasn't spelling cloudy. I was spelling cloud. I don't know what I was doing, but I typed it wrong like three fucking times. And I was like, I don't know how to spell cloud. And everyone can see your bad guess. Yeah. Oh, that's the that's the best part. Like as you're typing, if you miss the mystics in the chat for everyone to see, it's you know, it's a text. It's a text chain. and so that can be helpful
Starting point is 00:33:05 because i'll see people misspell a word because cloud's one of the few words i'm apparently retarded on um usually i can spell okay and it's like they'll type rendezvous but they'll have it all fucking wrong and i'll be like and i'll now i've got it because that's a huge clue to me i was like i know you meant rendezvous but i didn't see rendezvous up there. I didn't, and some of them, I just blank. When he was drawing SpongeBob SquarePants, I was like, yellow rat trap? Why is it yellow? Why is that rat trap
Starting point is 00:33:33 yellow? Dude, every once in a while a word would come up there, like most people in the chat were struggling with. Oh, obelisk. That one, that solidified my first game. He was the only person to get it. Of the 12 people in there.
Starting point is 00:33:50 But then one of the words was scythe. And I saw a million creative spellings. People were clearly like, all right, there's a C and a Y somewhere in the middle of this. I typed sickle three times in a row correctly and then just gave up and decided it was something else. I was like, that's not... I don't know. Sometimes I'll have it.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Occasionally I'll beat you. I'll be the first one, but it's rare. I think I was fourth one game, but Taylor's first in every game, and it's not close. It's like he can stop playing toward the end and it's just and it's it's a fun fucking game i like i do wish a good time and i'm not saying it would change who wins or who does anything i just wish we had a trackpad like i would prefer to draw with my hand than a mouse not because i think i'm necessarily better at it
Starting point is 00:34:43 or that it would change how any how the cards would fall but i would just rather do that because i think i could like represent my drawing skills a little bit better because i'm so bad at drawing i i'm like i know what i want i want a guitar with the amp next to it because i need an electric guitar i got what you were going for but as i'm doing it, at one point I go, I'm so sorry I can't draw a guitar. I think the word you were going for was electric. And I typed guitar, which I think is the same amount of letters. I don't know. Nobody knows that.
Starting point is 00:35:16 No, it was electric guitar. It was a compound word. Oh, was it both? Yeah, sometimes you get two words. That's the other thing. I remember it wrong. It's like Wheel of Fortune so that you can see the blanks. Or Hangman. So you see how many letters, and slowly it's like it's like wheel of fortune so that you can see the blanks or hangman so you see how many letters and slowly it's like it'll give you one letter is like the whole group gets one letter
Starting point is 00:35:31 like to help them along yeah but i'll i'll be so engrossed in the drawing that's taking place i'll forget to look up there and i and it's like dude that's a three-letter word just start guessing three-letter words. Because sometimes that's... Someone called me out for that. Even before anyone started drawing, I was typing like cow. You're like, you thought that was a cow? There wasn't even a clue.
Starting point is 00:35:53 I was just guessing. It's because I kept forgetting that there was a clue up there. That's why later I was like, can we remove that clue? Because I keep forgetting to look at it anyway. I think that helped me a huge amount. I felt like I was paying more attention to the amount of letters. I think you just have like a better reservoir of words to choose from,
Starting point is 00:36:13 you know, like give me a six letter word where the third letter is T and you're like, Oh, I got like four of those. What could it be? And I had zero. What I liked a lot, like just enjoyed was the people complaining about the drawing, right? Some guys would picture drawing like an entire neighborhood, right? There's three houses.
Starting point is 00:36:34 There's some trees. There's a dude mowing his lawn, a picket fence, some flowers. And Kyle's like, what are we supposed to focus on? Absolutely. Sometimes it was,
Starting point is 00:36:44 it was, sometimes it would just be people getting frustrated where it'd be like what the fuck is this and then other times the word would be like road and they wouldn't start with like two lines and then like dashes down the middle it'd be like they'd start with a house car or the car like a cul-de-sac and it'd be like there's too many factors i'm 100 right with what I'm saying. Once you've got your picture done and we're just sitting there like, clearly no one knows what you've done
Starting point is 00:37:10 because they haven't guessed it and now we're just staring at your picture. I need you to circle the relevant part or draw arrows to it because my clue was full moon. So I did my best at drawing a crescent moon. I think I won that one. I was the first to get it.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And then I drew a full moon and then I drew a circle around it and the arrows like sort of recycling thing like just pointing like this one, not that one because I don't know how to draw a full moon because you'll see a circle with dots on it if I don't have the crescent moon and the idea of the progression maybe.
Starting point is 00:37:38 It's hard. Yeah, there was one I was proud of myself because Taylor complimented me on it. I'm still on a high. But there was complaining about the use of colors. People were wasting time with their colors, all this frustration. And my clue was popcorn. So I made the box red and white striped, which is to me like classic sort of popcorn-y. And then the popcorn wasn't great.
Starting point is 00:38:00 It's hard for me to draw. But Taylor's like, that's a good use of colors. That helped with the clue. That was a perfect use of color but then other times people are like hmm the word is uh neighbor i prefer a green train and it's like we're wasting time here just quicker yeah well you gotta it was a fun thing about the the patrons you get a mixed group you get some guys that are moving to Upper West Side of Manhattan this week who are worth millions of dollars.
Starting point is 00:38:30 And then you get some guys who smell. Dude, it was fun seeing them. They only smell because they're wearing that furry costume. And it's seen some mileage. That's hypothetical, but not far off. I really liked that game. That was a fun game. We'll play some more in a few minutes. That's what we're talking about is the $50 patron
Starting point is 00:38:49 hangout if you care to join. $50 part. Weeks late or $10. Also, I started cheating for lack of a better word. Not cheating. It was doing the opposite. I was helping everybody else once I figured it out. I thought it was making it
Starting point is 00:39:05 a little more fun. I only didn't like you when you were doing that because I was really trying to goose my numbers before the end of the game because I would get it right and then Woody would be like, well, how do you draw a train? And I'm like, fuck!
Starting point is 00:39:22 Some guy out loud asked, how do you spell bonsai? And I'm b-o-n-s-a-i and then everyone's like got it got it got it got it got it man it's a fun game in that like there are some times though where you just can't get it and it's so demoralizing to be like all right nine other people have it but i can't get it through my head what this is supposed to be that's why i was extending olive leaves i was trying to make sure we did gulf of mexico and i oh don't bite me you cocksucker oh he's biting yeah dude i got gulf of mexico immediately very sharp leave my shit alone dude
Starting point is 00:40:00 no shark i thought it was tied into the Mexico story. Shark attack! Yeah, but it was like, oh, that's clearly America, and he's pointing those arrows to the Gulf of Mexico, and nobody was getting it, and I was just... Dirty was so upset, because the guy would erase it and then draw it again, and then erase it and draw it again. He's like, you keep drawing the same thing!
Starting point is 00:40:21 I was like, well, nine out of twelve people got it so far, bro. That was frustrating because some, I don't remember which person it was, but one dude just kept having the most bafflingly bad drawings. And he'd be like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm using a track pad. And it would just be like. He couldn't draw circles.
Starting point is 00:40:41 It was like, it had, it was three inch lines connected to each other because his sensitivity was so high it couldn't read a millimeter. It read an inch at a time. Also, he couldn't... So you're trying to draw a fence, right? You know how to do it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Two parallel straight lines and vertical ones. This guy couldn't make a line remotely straight for the life of him. The pencil. He was the one who drew the pencil that looked like a banana. I got no points on that pencil one, and I was a little annoyed
Starting point is 00:41:08 because it's like, he couldn't have drawn a worse pencil. Yeah. If I were in a challenge to draw a pencil as bad as I could, he would have beaten me. He would have swept me in the series. Yeah. That and Codenames. A couple of very fun games.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I want to find more stuff like that they i mean i need to try pictionary out i've never really played pictionary but if that's just what pictionary is i think i'd be pretty good at it yeah yeah you shout out the answer in like real life pictionary so it's a little like charades but instead of acting it out you draw it out do you play board games much ever or not really no i don't no i don't okay i can imagine having fun but if anyone were to propose the idea i'd be like anything but this i don't know board games i i love board games they're so so fun on the board games i don't want to play a goofy board game where we're basically rolling dice and giggling about it. Cause that's fucking stupid. And that's a soft game for soft minded people so that your dumb girlfriend
Starting point is 00:42:09 doesn't get embarrassed in front of the group. I'll never forget the night that this pretentious couple came over and played, um, um, a trivia game with me and my girlfriend. And this guy was always just bragging about how many degrees he had. He had worthless Fisher. He,
Starting point is 00:42:23 he, he, what he did was he took the ph levels at fisheries and for this he was a doctor he was a glorified pool ph tester like he'd bring data back he was so proud i stomped his asshole into a just oblivion in that game because he had no basic knowledge and he had zero pop culture knowledge and it was just maybe we'll play something else now. And they got out some kind of Hungry Hungry Hippos or some shit.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Something that there's no winner in, basically, or that the winner is the guy who just like... Hungry Hungry Hippos is cutthroat. Who spams it. We didn't actually play Hungry Hungry Hippos, but something like that. Some stupid fucking game. I agree. There needs to be a win.
Starting point is 00:43:02 A good example of a game I don't like to play is a Cards Against Humanity style game where no one's really winning in that. Whereas Codenames or Scriblio, Pictionary, whatever, that game's Secret Hitler, Catan, Ticket to Ride, there's a winner. There's a strategy to it.
Starting point is 00:43:23 And so at the end when you win, it's like, damn, I out-strategized them. end when you win, it's like, damn, I out-strategized them. Or when you lose, it's like, fuck, they out-strategized me. I was trying to get from Yaroslavl, Russia to my route in Bahrain, and they cut off right in the middle of it. That was really tactical of them. Fuck. When people come over, we play Super Mario Brothers Party.
Starting point is 00:43:44 It's something close to that. Mario Party, yeah.. Party. It's something close to that. Mario Party, yeah. Mario Party. It's a very silly game. And being good doesn't help you win that much. There's too much luck involved. I pulled last places the last two times I played. And it's frustrating for me.
Starting point is 00:44:01 It works in our house, though, because we like projection screen and you know four controllers, but You guys would hate that game. It's the video equivalent of what you hate When we played Super Smash we play on a giant projector at that house and that made all the difference I don't know. It wouldn't have been fun even on like a large TV like a 70-something inch But being it on like 200 inches or whatever, like a whole wall, you're looking around. It made it a much better game.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Obviously, that wouldn't be good for that. Yeah, I had never played before. That's so surprising that you never played Super Smash, even on the N64. I didn't have an N64. That game has a really high... It looks like it's a silly game like Mario Kart
Starting point is 00:44:47 but it has a really high skill ceiling so people who are good at it will beat people who are bad at it every time. Yeah. You can think you're okay at it and then you play someone who really knows what they're doing and you're like oh, I didn't even know these moves were an option.
Starting point is 00:45:03 I didn't know this could be done. Just grabbing me with DK, throwing me in the air. I never touched the ground. Now I'm not having fun. Yeah, I only had a couple. I had Sega Saturn and the Sega Genesis. Sega Saturn was CDs. Genesis was cartridges.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And then like a Nintendo NES before that. That's all I ever had. Before I got a PlayStation 2 and started playing Vice City and wanted to burn people you went right to two you never had a ps1 no no absolutely no uh-uh um i don't also yeah i didn't get bought but my parents wouldn't buy me things like that so i always had to go and like earn money to get video games because they saw it as like you know frivolous silliness but ps2 i think i justified it because it was only slightly more expensive than another dvd player yep so made it work yes it was great um i think i remember going in there and and buying that thing i remember specifically
Starting point is 00:45:58 like the day i bought that playstation it was so nice so those graphics were so but i was playing socom navy seals with a phone not an ethernet cable a phone cord stuck into the playstation 2 i uh back in the ps2 days like when my kids struggled with games they'd hand me the controller and i was just you know kicking ass for them getting past all those platformers that they couldn't do and the tide has turned i did the transition of power is never peaceful colin's flexing on me and of course he it's like he's serbian or something because he messes up the language i've said this before you're hard for fall guys aren't you? Yeah. That's the hardest for Fall Guys, apparently.
Starting point is 00:46:49 He just can't keep his guy upright, falling into the goo every five seconds. That game Scribbleo, I don't know if we explored every option of it. I like having the letters at the top because it's fun and it's another layer of vocabulary and I obviously like the vocabulary aspect but like if there was a way to do it in teams or pairs or like something like that instead of just free for all yeah well yeah yeah fun addition um i mean we i bet we could find pictionary of some like know, and just do that.
Starting point is 00:47:26 There was also talk of doing Codenames that has photos instead of words. Codenames Pictures is absolutely harder than Codenames. Of course it is. Yeah. I have that physical game and it's so... There can be
Starting point is 00:47:41 synonyms and stuff. There can be words, but you get like, ah, that word could be this or that. But when there can be synonyms and stuff. There can be words. That word could be this or that. But when you've got a picture, a picture's worth a thousand words. Maybe it's the situation in that picture. Maybe it's not the boat or the river. Maybe it's paddling. It could be anything. Or it could go the wrong way.
Starting point is 00:48:00 The people that focus on the wrong thing, actually that ties into what you just said. It's like, I want you to say boat but maybe but maybe i don't know they're in a boat having fun like it's a couple are they married are you going for lake yeah you don't know it's a lot harder yeah and a lot of like pretty much all the pictures in code names pictures are uh like it you won't get one of a pyramid like it's not ever one thing it'll be a pyramid but it's also an upside down ice cream cone and the ice cream is also a lake with like palm trees on so it's like multifaceted and so there's a bunch of ways to tie it in and you have to think like it's even more
Starting point is 00:48:38 complicated than the word version because it's like man am i the only one who's seeing this is like also is our other people going to jump the pyramid or to the ice cream cone sometimes when when someone starts drawing i am immediately like oh i see it and then sometimes they're they're done and everyone has guessed it correctly and i'm just like wouldn't know where to start that looks like scribbles to me like like i can't make that into shapes anymore it's just scribbles i. I'm like, what is that? What's that scribbly little doodad you put over there? Were you just bored? And then you finish a drawing
Starting point is 00:49:10 and then there's nothing else to add and so you're like, alright, I guess I'll put a tailpipe on the truck and maybe a window and a grill. The one person's word was truck and they drew a car and I went, I had already guessed truck somehow, and I went, put a tailgate on it, for God's sake.
Starting point is 00:49:28 Everyone, truck. Thank you, Jesus. Put the tailgate on there. He had drawn a truck and a car, I think, to show that it wasn't a car. I contrast, and I couldn't get my head off vehicle. I was just on it. That was vehicle. Oh, well, I might be conflating. I was just on it. That was vehicle. Oh, well, I might be conflating.
Starting point is 00:49:48 There are two different ones. It was fun. It was a good time. It was nice to get away from code words a little bit. A little change of pace. A little change of pace. I'd like to change it some more. I don't have any specific ideas, but the idea of changing is cool. I would like something team-based, like Taylor said,
Starting point is 00:50:06 because then Taylor doesn't just beat us all. Maybe I could share some glory with somebody. I literally think if we had 12 people playing that game, Taylor could win. It might be 100 times out of 100. Not that many times, but it would get to the end. Taylor, what's your number? I would win the majority of the time. Oh, shut no that's not a number one guy kept pace i have won 100 of the games so far
Starting point is 00:50:33 so i'm on pace with you for a while and then like it's sometimes there were the second game we played the first four i got zero the first four clues I got zero. The first four clues, I was just like, what the fuck is all this shit? I don't see it. You climbed back up to fifth by the end, though, I think. Yeah, I skipped the first four questions and pulled up to fifth or something by the end. Yeah, that happened.
Starting point is 00:50:55 The other two people that were usually second, third, and fourth was Dirty, Robot, and you, I would say. I did okay, but it was very frustrating for me at times. It was like all or nothing is what it was. I would get it, and I would get always slower than you. That's the other thing that matters that I keep talking about. His typing speed is so
Starting point is 00:51:18 quick, and his spelling is so good that he's going to get it fast, and he's not going to miss. It's hard to beat him to the punch, even if you come up with it faster. I'm sure I've come up with it faster but i can't get him on the board faster yeah i gotta think for a second and then i gotta get fucking start typing and then he's already beaten me dude it was a good ego day for me then afterward dirty's like let's all do a typing competition and i'm like i've never done one of these let's see i don't feel like i'm that fast of a typist that blew him out of the water taylor thinks 97 isn't very good but i was like i think i got like 90 no i don't think oh okay
Starting point is 00:51:51 even so that's that's fast kyle do you remember how fast you went did you try it i didn't try it but in school um i took typing electives like multiple times I knew how to type, so that seemed like the easiest fucking elective ever. And all we'd do was speed tests. And I would get high numbers, but they were simple words. I didn't do the one that y'all were doing, so I don't know. I probably typed 60. I got 55 and 56. It's pretty consistent.
Starting point is 00:52:20 That's just what I am. When I coded for a living there were a certain like there are certain things you type all the time and like honestly my manager brought his manager over and a crowd gathered to watch me work because i could just like navigate the unix directory structure and shit like that and it was loud i had this old ibm like m2 keyboard or whatever it was and it would like it's buckling spring and it was just like and it was cool. It made me feel good
Starting point is 00:52:50 about myself. They were all like, look at him go. Fucking hacker man over here. He just turned his hat backwards. Get ready. Which one of you has to blow me dirty? He's playing the Swordfish soundtrack. He's got a leather trench coat on at his desk.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I like that. Do you know why Romania is called Romania? I haven't a clue. The Romani people? No, the Romans went in there and the people that lived there resisted. So they ground their cities to dust and they renamed the people that lived there resisted so they ground their cities to dust and
Starting point is 00:53:25 they renamed the place land of rome romania the the room the romans were notoriously uncool when they'd show up and people resisted they're like they killed one third of the kelps we have like the first modern army and you guys live in the woods right yeah have you guys heard oh these guys don't know what roads are. Well, you wouldn't know because we're the only ones that have them. Yeah. Oh, you're going to kill a few of our guys?
Starting point is 00:53:51 Well, we have a road that we built along the way that has more supplies coming. And they're, yeah, they really butt-fucked a lot of people for a long time. I didn't know they killed a third of the Celts. That's insane. It was that guy that I've been listening to. Dan Carlin had a thing about he'll mention the Romans or an example of like, he mentioned
Starting point is 00:54:11 that example to talk about what war is like and how war was fought over the centuries and how complete the destruction could be when people resisted and how it was in your best interest if you were a warlord leading a country that was warlike and conquering to let it be known, hey, there's two ways this can go. The second option isn't some of y'all make it
Starting point is 00:54:34 by the way. It's that none of you make it. Do you want to work for me? After the fall of Rome. It split into two. The Greece and then Roman and then America. Well, Rome never really stopped, right? They were split into two the greece and then roman and then america well the roman never really stopped right so it was split into two roman empire yeah it's well it's split into two empires and and the it still survives today there and you know the cath the catholic church there is the roman empire
Starting point is 00:54:57 yeah so like and i think it's 456 45 453, the Roman Empire fell. It's kind of schism split. And then there was the Eastern, the Holy Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire. And, you know, in much diminished capacity compared to like the full Roman Empire. But yeah, it's a huge empire. Would you say it was the British? Yes. The British was the greatest empire that ever existed.
Starting point is 00:55:27 By every measure. By every measure. Ridiculous. The sun never set. I'm just trying to think. I'm just wondering how America compares. I feel like Kyle easily answers this question, but I can't. We do it differently now. It's a sort of soft power. We're anti-imperialist from the very beginning.
Starting point is 00:55:44 It's codified. Even with we um even with i think it was the philippines or somewhere down there we had relinquished control of it 10 years prior to world war ii like we were we we didn't we weren't imperialist we never have been but the the english i mean the whole world australia india united states um and and so much of the whole planet, all of those islands they conquered. It was this tiny island nation that conquered everything. That's one of the things Japan was looking at when they came out of their isolationist period. They compared themselves.
Starting point is 00:56:17 I have the phrasing I've been hunting for. So let's remove America specifically and say, how does NATO compare to England? Oh, well, they're not an empire. It's a bunch of countries. That's the way we do it now, right? We influence. We set these rules.
Starting point is 00:56:34 We determine how wars are conducted and who gets to go to war with who. Yeah, I don't know how you'd quantify it and compare just such different eras and how things were done. Like a traditional empire, I think, Kyle, might be on the money. The British Empire was unbelievably impressive. There were a lot of other, like the Persian Empire, really impressive. The Roman Empire, obviously. Yeah, I'm not doubting Kyle. I'm just asking him.
Starting point is 00:57:00 It's kind of a thought experiment. How would you compare NATO, the i wouldn't soft way that nato's just like this uh this this this loose alliance of of countries that can you can add countries and remove countries from it and i just and we're seeing right now just how non-cohesive they are how fun how it's so hard to just beat one aggressive country because we're not together the the gdp of nato to russia is like 20 to 1 i saw a graph that like are we talking about ukraine they're not in nato though yeah sure sure but we've made it our mission to like save them from from the invading russians and we're struggling to to do that clearly it's a question of what it would be a real empire for real right if russia invaded poland right a full-on nato
Starting point is 00:57:40 member what would that response look like would we be giving poland tanks or would it be there we'll be there so then ukraine isn't a very good uh you know proxy for hell for nato strength i suppose we'll see i'm just trying to like thinking about overall influence i don't know i know article five but sometimes i wonder i feel like you need central leadership nato member is it Malta or something? I don't know. An empire. Malta catch its trays. If Malta was invaded by Russia,
Starting point is 00:58:12 would we all be like, how serious are we about Article 5, guys? I hate Malta milk balls. Get them out of here. NATO would be like, alright, it's come to our attention Malta's a member. I think like a figurehead, I think put it to have an empire you need an emperor right like i don't think you can have an empire that's a great point that's a really yeah you need a king you need an emperor in order for it to qualify it by these definitions and so
Starting point is 00:58:36 i guess by that point it'd be it might be the roman empire or the british? Yeah, you had... British expanded more because Navy being so huge to them in comparison to the Romans not having to lean as heavily into Navy because they conquered surrounding the Mediterranean. Yeah, they walked to their enemies on their roads. Then there was
Starting point is 00:58:59 Empire rivalries. How many centuries were the Roman Empire and the persian empire like the no the the persians the greeks rolled into the roman empire pretty quick no the persians are like iranians and uh further east empire did the the romans have issue with them? Yes. Yeah. The Roman Empire and the Persian Empire were at war for a very long time. Kyle didn't know something because I'm over here coming up empty on every. The East Mediterranean, West, Middle East, like those. Northern Africa?
Starting point is 00:59:40 Northern Africa. Yeah. Well, I mean, they conquered Egypt. Like Rome had Egypt for so long i saw a thing oh i'm not saying it was always even there were centuries in there where rome was butt-fucking them and yeah i guess i never thought of them fighting them i thought of the persian empire is something different maybe by roman times i just know it's like super storied like the persian empire against the greeks because you've got the hot gates, Thermopylae, you've got the
Starting point is 01:00:05 marathon, all of that stuff is the Athenians, Athens and Sparta teaming up and trying to rally all of Greece to take on this empire that dwarfs them from across the sea. Greek history is so cool. Shout out Greeks.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Pretty awesome. All you gay boys with your olive oilediled-up assholes. The leaders of the free world. The Olympics. Hey. They invented it, and then they didn't win a ton of medals back in the day. They should go back to the medal count back when they won every medal. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:00:39 That's so funny. They're like the Montreal Canadiens, like counting Stanley Cups from 130 years ago. The Greeks are like, actually if we look back to the year minus 70 we've got you fuckers blown out. We won every medal that year.
Starting point is 01:00:56 For so many years. It's like us in like Super Bowl championships. 59 out of 59 for America, baby. Can't be stopped in the Super Bowl. We should wrap because we have the hangout tonight. Good call. Yes. All right. PKN 506.

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