Painkiller Already - PKN 516

Episode Date: July 10, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 pkn 516 what's up boys hello there not too much what's new in your guys world anything fun anything horrible anything nothing like that you know any new awful illnesses anyone skip the movements today my shoulder kind of hurts i don't know but i just like following i've been i've been all about politics and following the uh the meme channels and and keeping up on that, keeping up on the Doc stuff, of course, as, you know, of course, his buddies now. Oh, Dr. Disrespect, the pedophile? Yeah. No new revelations, right? Well, you know, it's one of those things where now his buddies have
Starting point is 00:00:34 to come forward and be like, look, I wanted to wait until we knew for sure before I threw my best friend under the bus, okay, but just so we're all clear, I've only ever met him when he was wearing that wig, okay? We talked for eight seconds one time. We took a picture. It could have been anyone under that wig.
Starting point is 00:00:50 It could have been two midgets on top of each other at six foot eight in a wig instead of doctor. You never know. He is tall. He's not in any more. Nothing new has come out though like no no more
Starting point is 00:01:06 well i mentioned on pka i think but twitch did report him to that yeah that organization for the exploitation and something or another of miners it's got a really scary name like csm maybe like yeah but like when you the acronyms it's like, oh, do they make elevators? But when you see their whole fucking name spelled out, it's like, oh they're the people who protect children who have been diddled. Holy shit. It's a scary
Starting point is 00:01:35 standard organization. Exploitation and something of minors. That's the latest I have on the Doc thing. Obviously he's on that island with diddy the only new thing i hear of isn't really new things he did it's new ramifications like you know shit i didn't even know that like he was working with his company and now they've disavowed him he had a character in a video game and this video game is like dead it hasn't been updated in
Starting point is 00:02:02 three years they issued an update to remove Doctor of Disrespect from their game. It's the only change they made. A game that no one's playing anymore. I was playing it all day. I was making some machinimas over there. It was going to be some interesting stuff. Were you bringing back 2009
Starting point is 00:02:19 YouTube content? It'd be good content. It's topical now. I think Kik banned him, but he wasn't even on Kik content. I think Kick banned him, but he wasn't even on Kick. They preemptively banned him so he wouldn't go there next. Don't even apply. So where is he
Starting point is 00:02:35 going to be? As far as I know, he's on YouTube but not monetized. So that may be their question work? I don't know. For a while, they demonetized his content i don't know um i keep going back to like what he's done is clearly bad because um i think it was nick merckx i was listening to um he's like a former buddy of his if i'm not mistaken i don't want to say
Starting point is 00:02:57 anything it's not true when it comes to a pedophile but um he was saying that oh what was it lost my train of thought about the doc. Was he the one that said that he didn't really know him and he only saw him with the wig? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that guy's I'm not familiar with his with his content. But, you know, he makes Twitch gaming content. And I think he streamed a lot with Doc, like everybody did back in the day. You know, I watch a ton of Shroud.
Starting point is 00:03:22 I watch a ton of Summit 1G. Did you see shrouds thing i did i did shrouds do you want to say it i'll do it tell me how close i get but they're like hey shroud are you gonna still stream with dr disrespect and he's like no have you noticed i stopped streaming with dr disrespect years ago only an idiot thinks he got banned from twitch for nothing so i distanced myself from him a long time ago and i was like oh shit you know you don't really notice the negative that like this didn't happen so yeah yeah yeah yeah pretty much exactly that no i i i love both those guys
Starting point is 00:03:58 shroud and summit 1g are the most wholesome fucking but but real at the same time um you know nobody's perfect so i love when summit just goes off um i was watching him stream halo this has been a while ago but he's streaming halo one of the new updated ones and this guy's talking so much shit in his chat like giving it he's he's backseat driving talking about how shitty summit is he's like all right motherfucker put your money where your mouth is 1v1 right fucking now you little pussy boy uh and he the guy's just typing laugh my ass off in the chat he's like come you keep dodging the question bitch boy 1v1 right now and they have a they have a 1v1 and it's closer than oh he plays him yeah yeah yeah they have a 1v1 in front of the stream um and uh it's closer than than summit thought it was going to be and it's fun to see him come to that realization
Starting point is 00:04:43 at the end he's like you know what not as shit as i thought you're going to be pretty damn good also i probably shouldn't be talking shit in the game i'm not very good at this is not csgo they both mainly csgo guys and this is a guy it was a random in his chat that he's calling out this is just some shit talker in his chat yeah summit summit's probably my favorite twitch guy um if i ever hear anything bad about summit i'll feel so awful but i don't see one of the guys who's like his bread and butter is like being excellent at the games he's playing so summits uh was a professional gamer for a little while at csgo so he has that background of just being good at clicking on heads like better than 99.99 of people um and he streamed a lot of csgo and he had a lot of cool clips but he's a variety gamer and he has been for
Starting point is 00:05:31 i guess a decade now successfully you know carry 20 to 50 000 subs um continuously for like 10 years now playing everything from sea of thieves csgo Halo, just anything. Lots of DayZ content. I watch all that shit. I really dig him. He's got a good body. He's also a stoner, but he keeps his bong just out of reach. I'm trying to reach mine. I can't reach it.
Starting point is 00:05:57 He does what he can right out of reach. That's the problem. He kind of turned the stream off or the screen off occasionally and you just know he was hitting that big bong, and then one day he forgot and pulls the bong out in front of everybody, and everybody thinks that's why he lost his monster sponsorship because right after that. He's got a really cool office with tons of sponsored shit in it.
Starting point is 00:06:18 There's a whole monster refrigerator in shot, and then suddenly it was like GamerFuel or GFuel or something like that. Oh, big step down. I don't know if that's what happened. I think he said that's pretty suddenly it was like gamer fuel or g fuel or something like that big step down i don't know if that's what happened i think he said that's not what happened but it was very coincidental time but no love summit that he never did a little fucking kid he's the thing you said about his vibe that's why i like anton anton's not as popular probably most people listening don't know him uh his streams routinely pull like 500 people 300 people stuff like that but uh man when i was streaming i modeled the way i handled dying after him because before watching him i would throw a temper tantrum and in my dumb ass head i thought that people would think this must not happen to him very often
Starting point is 00:07:08 that people would think this must not happen to him very often but then i processed it a little more and it was like actually people think you're a baby and an asshole so i watched ellie anton handled it and he's like darn you know and i was like that's a way better vibe than i am so i yeah i judge streamers on that point in particular like i i and i can deal with anything if it's justified like landmark will get upset sometimes and i'll be like yeah you just got cheated and the chat will be like nah that was legit bro and i think they're just fucking with them at this point like the guy will like fly across the map zip across his screen left and right and then he'll explode they'll'll be like, legit kill, man. That was just a skill gap.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Skill issue landmark, I'm sorry. Fucking cheater! I like that. I like when they're emotional and they're real. I saw Xcal, this is like 12 years ago, play with a cheater. I mean, I thought Xcal
Starting point is 00:08:04 was going to beat a guy even though he was a cheater in truth xcal won like 40 percent of the time and it was like even though the guy had like an aim bot and was clearly clearly cheating there was no doubt i was like that all right that's good but he was so good i wonder how good he is now i think think he's still playing Call of Duty. I don't think he'd be like that. You never lose gaming talent? Not if you're Asian. Where's my keyboard? I can prove it. Asians are like elves. They hang
Starting point is 00:08:33 on to those towels. Like, yes, I learned that 800 years ago. And they just bomb your ass in Gears 3. I don't know if you guys are the same way, but if I like... If I catch myself starting to get actually mad at a video game or dying in a game or getting beat or sucking, whatever the case is, whatever the game is,
Starting point is 00:08:53 even in that moment of like... What ends it for me is I will get frustrated, but then there's like a almost external tailor that's like, get a load of this loser getting mad at video games. Like, do you realize how embarrassing that and then like that Taylor convinces the other one where then I'm like embarrassed where I'm like, I'm really mad at a video game right now. That's that's ridiculous. I don't think it is ridiculous. Why is it ridiculous?
Starting point is 00:09:23 How is it any? What if you were building a ship in the bottle let's take it it's fine to be frustrated but i'm talking about like if i actually get like pissed if i'm like fuck like i can't believe here's what i think i think those are just different to kyle's point it's okay to be mad it's okay to be frustrated it's not okay to throw a temper tantrum and lose control if you you're over 16, I'm expecting you to kind of keep it in check, bro. All right, let me tell you the extent of my temper tantrum. I've done this regularly forever when I game. I will slam my fist down right here on this chair like two, three times.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Like really fucking hard. And that's enough for me. So I used to take the whole mouse and slam the mouse on the table. Like a fucking hard. And that's enough for me. So I used to take the whole mouse and slam the mouse on the table. Like a fucking monkey. Like a fucking monkey. Wings of Redemption used to go through headsets all the time. I would never do that. There's no way I could.
Starting point is 00:10:14 I would take. First of all, this has been a goddamn good headset. I wore this to the gym. This is by Gym Head. I just plugged it right into my fucking phone. You've had that for years. I love this headset. It's only like $300.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But you've got nice ones. What are yours, like six or eight? Closer to six, I think. Something like that. Yeah. I like them a lot. I wouldn't throw my $300 ones. I bet you wouldn't throw your $600 ones. It would never happen.
Starting point is 00:10:37 When I see people damage their expensive property or punch, maybe if your monitor's cost is nothing to you, kind of like this mouse's cost is nothing to me, like, I don't even slam this mouse anymore because it's been good to me. I don't know. I don't slam my things. I've never broken something being mad at gaming.
Starting point is 00:10:52 I threw a cup once. I guess I've never thrown an actual tantrum with gaming. I just mean... Wait, pause there. Literally not a single time you've never thrown a controller or hit your desk? Oh, like, no, I don't't think so like okay never stomped your foot there might be a time like i sucked at a game when i was streaming on twitch and i like kind
Starting point is 00:11:11 of hammed it up but i've never actually been angry like the archives yeah i'm just gonna go through and be sure there's some video evidence to me doing it, but that was a joke. So were all the slurs I was saying while it was happening. I'm better now than I used to be, but I used to berate people. You know, there's videos. Well, I'll do a little shit talking, but that's not like in anger. No, I do a lot, though.
Starting point is 00:11:37 No, I do angry shit talking and real mean stuff. There's videos of it. There's videos of it, you videos of it you know and and call of duty 4 oh i told you um like scott scott sullivan the we had him on the show play aoe with him all the time he got temp banned from chat in age of empires 2 because he was talking i guess so much shit to people where they they would hit 11, because you can send voice chats to each other, so you can say, like, ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha,
Starting point is 00:12:12 like you can laugh at someone. And so he was getting mad, and he's like, I suck at this game, and I'm getting rolled, and then some dude hits me with the 11s laughing at me. I don't like that either. And I'm messaging him back. I'm like, hey, pussy, we both suck.
Starting point is 00:12:29 Look at both of our ratings. We both are terrible at this game. Fuck you. I remember we were playing poker and every time I would lose a hand, which by the way, it's real money we're playing with. It's understandable. Every time I would lose $20 to $50,
Starting point is 00:12:45 and it happened a couple of times. We've been playing for hours. I wasn't down a bunch, but I wasn't happy. I was kind of in that mode where I'll win $50 and then lose $100 and then win $50, and I'm just constantly at the middle, like with my starting stack, and everybody else is growing.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And antagonists, every time I lose, right, slap my ass off in the chat. He's not even in voice chat. He's just... He's a spectator. He's spectating this fucking game. Oh, he's not even playing, though. He's not even playing.
Starting point is 00:13:15 Oh, that's a good time to play it. And every time I... And it's like, I'm counting them now. You know what I mean? Like, I've noticed the first three, and I'm like, there won't be a fifth fuck this piece and the fourth one i type this long paragraph like motherfucker you every time i laugh every time i lose you laugh it you must really fucking have it in for me like what's your and i'm going this fucking rant he's like oh didn't realize i was
Starting point is 00:13:41 doing that and we've been really chill ever since. I like antagonists. But I was ready to destroy him that night. I was like, I will ban you from this game and the Discord, and I will blacklist your name. I will strike it from the books. I was so mad at him. History will never know you existed at all. We were in the Hangouts because we kept talking about the way he left his job. That's good.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah. Oh, no. No. I mean, if he's not in there, it's because he just doesn't want to spend $50 a month to be in there, I would say. But that's hilarious how he lost. He didn't really lose his job. I think he'd already lost it, and then he punched his boss out. Or maybe it was he was.
Starting point is 00:14:24 He taught her a lesson i mean he did like not only did he deck her and somehow get away from get away with it he got the same job across town and his former boss came to his place looking for a job and their roles were reversed does he live in the past how can you pull this off in 2024 right i mean actually well i popped the lady in the face but here i am at a different store in in 2024. Right? I mean, actually, I haven't seen him. Well, I popped the lady in the face, but here I am at a different store in the same industry three months away.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I haven't seen him in a bit, so either Scum got mad and banned him, or he's actually facing legal consequences for swelting that woman. Yeah. For slapping her up a bit. I think he punched her in the mouth. I heard that she attacked him.
Starting point is 00:15:07 That's what I heard. I made that up. That's not what I heard from him. What's the most expensive thing on the gaming rage question? What's the most expensive thing you've broken or fucked up? Oh, nothing.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Nothing. Ever. Oh, I would imagine that would? Oh, nothing. Nothing. Ever. Oh, I would imagine that would have broke your mouse. No. Well, first of all, it was that rat mouse that everybody makes fun of that I had that weighed three pounds and was like aluminum. So that thing could take a licking. I'd beat the shit out of that thing and it would just take it. My whole desk is a mouse pad, so it's a little bit of a cushion.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I've never broken anything in a rage except for I had an argument one time outside on like a back patio of a house, like an elevated one. And I threw my coffee cup down to the ground below. I was so mad. Uh, and that's the only time I've ever broken anything. I don't think I've ever hit a wall. I've never hit a wall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:01 Never. That's me. That's mine. I was like, I was, uh was maybe 13 or 14 years old. But yeah, once I kicked a wall because I did poorly in Legend of Zelda and it was my brother's room. And that just made it like because I made it more complicated right now. He's my victim. And I have to, like, make it up to him, which is a situation he liked too much.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It was terrible. Well, I've told it before. What was happening in Zelda that you got so mad? Oh, I probably just died, ran out of hearts and ate it. It's a single player game. It's not like anybody fights with you. That's so funny. I was playing Mortal Kombat with my Lithuanian roommates
Starting point is 00:16:44 and I guess they didn't grow up with one of the fucking console and they're stupid country. That's so funny. I was playing Mortal Kombat with my Lithuanian roommates, and I guess they didn't grow up on one of the fucking consoles, and they're a stupid country, so I'm just destroying them in Mortal Kombat 10, I think. And not that I was any good. It was just that I'd grown up with a console and just shitting on them. And I wasn't talking a lot of shit, but one of them would win one out of three games and
Starting point is 00:17:05 the other hadn't won a game so it was a it was definitely fun for saul but it was not fun for tomas tomas is over there he's lost nine in a row and he doesn't get much control and we're drinking and uh and so you're having a 40 of czechoslovakian fucking lager. A liter. We each have a liter of some sort of weird, dark Russian beer. That's strong, strong beer. And Saul is making fun of Tomas because he's a bigger loser than he is. He's like, have you won a single game? Have you won a single round of a game? Have you dented kyle's meter i haven't seen it because i'd be juggling his
Starting point is 00:17:50 ass and fucking throwing chains at his feet and tying him up and pal driving him and shit and he took the controller he's like and threw it into the wall i mean into the wall like a it penetrated and stuck. And we both freak out because, you know, I'm 19 and they're 24, but nobody's got enough money to go to fucking Best Buy right now and get a goddamn new controller. And if anybody, it's going to be the asshole who broke one. But the wall has a huge hole in it, and we're losing it about the deposit on the wall, me and the other guy.
Starting point is 00:18:23 Look at the hole. Look at the hole look at the hole he's like you think that is a hole and he rears back and he punches the hole and his whole arm goes into the wall he goes that is a hole it's like he crocodile found a game that Tomas is good at. We should play Donkey Kong or something. Oh, damn. So no more Mortal Kombat. He didn't even fix it. We got a new controller the next day and some spackle and shit so that me
Starting point is 00:18:54 and the other guy could fix the wall. Tomas is a shithead. Just a shithead, yeah. This just happened. My daughter brought a bunch of friends over, call it like nine people, for a Fourth of July party, a pool party type deal.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Nice. And her friends are super nice and they really include Colin and everything, which is cool. So it's a really good scene. Anyway, at one point, Mortal Kombat comes out and we have this big projector screen
Starting point is 00:19:19 so everyone watches. Colin loves Mortal Kombat. He's not really good at it it but he's into horror movies and fucking fatalities he's the guy and he just sits there and practices fatalities he doesn't like the game he likes the fatalities and he just does not care about the lead up in the fight just so colin's playing and it's a tight back and forth battle and, and he loses. And I'm like, damn it.
Starting point is 00:19:46 You know, cause if Colin won, that would have been a fatality. And these guys aren't used to Mortal Kombat and the whole place is blowing up at like fucking lightning bolts. You know, when they see a fatality, they're going to go bonkers.
Starting point is 00:19:56 So I'm like, Colin, give me the controller. Now I'm not good at Mortal Kombat, but I am the best in the room. And, uh, so I go and I,
Starting point is 00:20:04 and I beat one of his friends and i hand the controller to colin and i'm ready for this place to explode but i didn't give him enough time so the other guy just tips over it's a letdown oh yeah i love that that would happen to me everyone grab another beer we're gonna get it right this time. Watch the screen. Don't look away. Don't go inside. After that, I just left. I don't know if it's true, but I get this idea. They're all like 25. They don't want Hope's dad hanging at the party.
Starting point is 00:20:35 So I just made myself scarce. No, you just went a few yards away. Got your binoculars out and kept an eye on things. 25, that's like the age of you. Don't worry, girls. I was a lifeguard for many years i'm keeping a close watch you're out there in one of those like turn of the century t-shirt and like short pants combo no running on the concrete it's wet hope has a friend i won't out his name but he was like a
Starting point is 00:21:04 huge fan of mine back when I was a big deal. And like she met him in college or something, but he knew who I was. And he admitted that he one time got his parents to drive him in front of my house. And they parked like in front of our mailbox and just observed the outside of our house for a while. Then he was too shy and he left. I'm going to be friends with the girl who lives here to get to the dad it's all going according it's all about me this is the first quarter of a horror film woody i don't know about this i don't know about this this guy's gonna like he's gonna start like hitting himself
Starting point is 00:21:39 and he's gonna tell the police you did it he's gonna be like and you know the craziest thing is i didn't know you did YouTube until the fifth or sixth time I sat outside your house. By observing you, I found your YouTube channel. Yeah. Wait, what? Why were you- Walls are thin.
Starting point is 00:21:57 By the way. Yeah, that's, I'm surprised, like that was courteous of you to be like, I should let my my daughter and all her friends hang out but like 25 mid-20s like I feel like you're not 21 anymore like you don't even mind having the the quote real adults around like if they're I guess the vibe is different if it's all 25 year olds but like at least yeah I remember I can remember going to parties and the best part about the party was
Starting point is 00:22:25 hanging out with the girl's dad and talking to him for a bit outside like like i'll give a shit what they're talking about in there but like this guy's teaching me how to super cool a beer he's got like a he's like jam it down into the ice you won't spin it you don't and i'm like watch i'm like yeah okay okay he's's like, now try that. Try that. It's like cold in three minutes. That's the biggest problem with beer. I'm 19 and can't buy it. No, it's that it's not cold enough.
Starting point is 00:22:53 That's literally the conversation. Yeah. I think it might be me who's slow to adjust. I'll tell you, they saw the big fish tank. They were loving that fish tank. And I'm like telling them what the fish are with the shrimp everybody's name most of the fish in there have like a a kind of a funny name and uh they were they were just riveted by the fish tank for a good 15 minutes or so i was thinking the other
Starting point is 00:23:16 day if you if you really a pretty fucking pimp thing to do but you don't like lobster but what if you had a lobster tank you know so that anytime you wanted fresh lobster you'd be like all right lenny carl this is it that would be awesome to be the lobster tank guy have people like imagine imagine like some people come over and and like you're like hey would you like to stay for dinner? Oh, what were you having? Well. You're like, unveil the lobster tank. Would you like fresh lobster? Dude, imagine this.
Starting point is 00:23:55 The projection screen rolls up and unveils the lobster tank. And then we just grab a couple and put it back down. Like it was no big deal. They live in a hellish darkness until they're about to eat. I don't know. The server room's over there. Yeah, that'd be awesome. I like. I think they're supposed to eat. I don't know. The server room's over there. Yeah, that'd be awesome. I think they're supposed to eat more lobster if it wasn't beat out by crab. Crab's just a superior meat.
Starting point is 00:24:11 If lobster's about, I'll always eat it. It's fantastic. Maybe a farm of crab, then. A couple pods. Pods? Is that what a group of crab are called? Pods? That's what they threw off the side of those boats in Deadliest Catch. Because I just remember seeing it at my grand...
Starting point is 00:24:29 Oh, pots. Yeah, you're right. I'm also going off just seeing this at my grandparents' house a couple times in that era. Really? You didn't get into it? No. And so they'd throw it all over. And then one guy's always just panicked where he's like,
Starting point is 00:24:43 God, it's just not enough crab. A whole bunch of crab and we're not getting a lot of crab. And so guys, the captain's upset. Woody's 100% right. Can I tell it? Yes. It's really sad. So I don't remember when it happened,
Starting point is 00:24:57 like as far as the seasons of the show go. But early on, the show was this. They would turn these guys loose and say, all right, you've got 48 hours. That's the crab season this year. Two days. Get as much as you can, and you sell it at huge, crazy high prices. And so that meant that you would, and I'm exaggerating with the time, but it would be a short period of time, like maybe nine days or 14 days or something.
Starting point is 00:25:22 And they would work these crazy shifts. Everybody would be exhausted, but they knew they were making enough money for the year in this two weeks. So they've got to burn the candle at both ends that, you know, they're doing drugs. You know, they're like,
Starting point is 00:25:36 you see the captain who's driving and he gets the least sleep of all because he can't, he's not doing the physical labor. So he really doesn't, he just needs to stay mentally acute enough to, like, drive the boat and get things organized. And he's burning cigarettes. He's burning one coffee and cigarettes. And I mean, continuously just and you see him. He's like a zombie. He's dead. And it was compelling because with that exhaustion came accidents and came um interpersonal conflict that was real it was like i haven't slept in two days shut the fuck up you don't tell me that i can't
Starting point is 00:26:12 eat dinner we're eating fucking dinner i haven't i didn't eat lunch breakfast or yes i'm eating feed me let me just add to the story real quick the captain made the decision on where to drop the pots so the crew is depending on the captain to make smart choices and if they pull up the pots and they're empty now everybody is mad they feel like they're on a bad boat with a stupid captain that same work and no pay right it's just as hard to pull up empty pots yeah no one's getting hourly rates like you either like you were they were they were all making enough money for a year? Really?
Starting point is 00:26:48 They all get commission on that boat's haul. They're not getting paid by the hour. That's also why they're so mad. Because they would show the dollar amounts. And it'd be tens of thousands of dollars a day they were making. A greenhorn, this is the first time they've ever done this, might make $40,000, $50,000 in a crab season. I think the times were a little longer than Kyle said.
Starting point is 00:27:11 They were more like six weeks. But just the same. These people weren't infosec engineers in the off season. Making a quarter million dollars and then they did some crab work in the winter no these guys this was this is going to be 80 of this year's income and it had to be good they could go do another roughneck job you know somewhere else they could go work on like a cowboy ranch during the summer months or whatever and that's probably what a lot of them were up to the second half of the the story, though, is they changed it. They wanted to limit how many crabs they got,
Starting point is 00:27:46 and they changed it from how long they could go crabbing to how many crabs they can get, which seems like a way better idea. So now, like, all right, really, it's like, how much diesel do you burn? Do we get all these crabs in two weeks or six weeks? And it kind of takes away from the drama of like, oh my god, this season might suck. Much safer though. Much, much safer. They don't go out into the storms. They don't work the crazy hours.
Starting point is 00:28:12 It's safer and less dramatic. And so I tuned the fuck out. What are you going to do? Not only did the show hit like it's 14th season, but it's worse. So the crowd, the people don't want to see it's worse so the crowd that people don't want to see it's like i never watched that show moonshiners but i would see advertisements for it
Starting point is 00:28:31 and it was just like these kentucky backwoods guys who were making moonshine and in the lead up like the little trailer and show them like cleats we gotta get out of here! The po-po's on the way! And then cut and smash cut all the dramatization and it's like it's not illegal to do moon... No, you can make it. You can't sell it unless it's been...
Starting point is 00:28:59 But that's what they're doing. They're selling it. Were they really though? So here's the problem. I haven't done any research on the show. They seem to be getting most of their money from TLC or whoever was filming it. They didn't get much. They were probably getting a handful of thousand dollars. All of those TV deals like that are awful.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Yeah, they don't make much. You know who got a TV deal that I'm excited about? I'm sorry. I think Kyle wants to talk. I'm sorry. The Hawk Tooey girl. The Hawk Tooey girl got a TV show deal about her life. And I don't know where this is going to go.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Have you guys seen her interviewed? No. She's funny. She's high energy. She's prettier than I thought she was. In the Hawk Tuohy interview, I get that she was cute or whatever. But I've seen her on stage from head to toe. And it's like, oh, shit, she's a top 5% looking person.
Starting point is 00:29:50 They're just doing a Keeping Up with the Kardashians or I can't remember, Night Out with the Hiltons? What was Paris Hilton's show called? Night in Paris? That's the name of her porno. It was like a small life or the simple life simple life yeah okay I wasn't even close Nicole Richie would go and live with poor people it was a really mean show so anyway I think they're just gonna take her and put her in situations and she's gonna be herself and I'm a little bit rooting for this chick to be
Starting point is 00:30:22 the next like uh star who should never have been a star. I don't know. I think she's done a public good. She's got to capitalize right now. She should be selling hats and shirts. She left her job. She got an agent. She has a TV show. She's on stage with a country music star. I knew his name, but I couldn't tell you right now who it was. And she got up there and sang. Have you seen all the Hawk Tooie songs?
Starting point is 00:30:50 I've seen at least three. I've seen a 1950s doo-wop version. I've seen a country music song and something else. I haven't watched any. I saw the original interview. I'm averse to Hawk Tooie content. I was like, this is funny and silly, but I don't know how it took on as much as it did.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Probably because she's pretty. It didn't hurt. Yeah. Yeah. If I do that, you know. There'll be a demo that's down. There's a certain group of bear hunters who are all about you. Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I wonder if I do well in the gay world. They're pretty fit. Don't let him insult you. You're an otter, Taylor. Thank you. Is that better? You're welcome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:35 I didn't know. That means I'm not fat, right? That's right. Thank you. I am an otter. Oh, does bear mean fat? I thought bear meant like sort of strong. The beard influenced
Starting point is 00:31:46 me saying that heavily. Maybe I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't think any of us know as much. You're insulting bears everywhere. I think of bear having a bit of an implication of fat. I didn't know what I meant to imply. Big old
Starting point is 00:32:02 fat hairy man. Yeah, no. Taylor's an R. I thought a big strong hairy man is what i was going for but okay not necessarily we need a everyone who's gay message tweet at woody exactly the you know the list the glossary of terms we need to know well they need to see a picture of you from behind i don't know show your good cheek? It's filled back in. The lower body, we filled it back in, baby. I did a Google image search on gay bear. Almost all these people are too heavy.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So my mistake. I Googled gay bear. Look for gay otters and compare that to gay bear. I'm on it. I hope that you accidentally find just two otters banging each other in the ass. Like actually gay homosexual otters in the water. Suffice it to say, bear is often defined as more of an attitude than anything
Starting point is 00:32:54 else. A sense of comfort with our natural masculinity and bodies that is not slavish to the vogues of male attractiveness. Terminology. The gay otter is a subset of bear, which describes a stereotype of big, hairy gay men. That's bear. Otters, the comparison goes, are like small bears. As such, the term is used to describe
Starting point is 00:33:16 the stereotype of the bear's smaller, more lean, and potentially more effeminate counterpart. There you go, Taylor. Billy and Otter. Nailed it. I didn't know Otter was a real gay term. I thought that was an always sunny joke. When Kyle said it, I figured he
Starting point is 00:33:36 would know. He would. He's gay. I saw him stealing. There's a lot. There's not a lot that I haven't delved into. I knew the figging thing the other day. I love that you didn't know what figging was because your vocabulary is so extensive but you have one category that in which it's not when it comes to like yeah like like fetish and be like like any sort of like weird sex shit that i'm just fascinated with figging is when you take a piece of um um not, that was the fruit thing.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Ginger. Ginger. And you put it up the butthole in a BDSM type situation. Do you know what Santorum is? Yeah, yeah. That's not only was it a wonderful politician, a conservative politician, but it's like the foamy cum
Starting point is 00:34:21 from when two dudes are like docking. No, no, no, no, no. It's anal discharge of cum. That's what it is. We're watching, I think it was the boys, and somebody called somebody else Santorum. And I know Jackie has no idea.
Starting point is 00:34:37 So I explain, I'm pausing the show. I'm like, okay, this is a couple levels deep. I know you didn't know what Santorum was. And she's like, yeah, I have no idea. The Red Santorum was a senator from Pennsylvania. He was a Republican. And he ran on a really like a big bunch of Christian based Republican values, all sorts of like gay people shouldn't get married, shouldn't exist and all sorts of like gay hate well there was a podcaster named dan savage of the savage podcast who said that he wanted to name something santorum that he wouldn't like being named after him and they
Starting point is 00:35:12 settled on the cum that comes out of the butt after anal sex so that is what santorum is named after rick santorum and i just had to like pause the show jack, here's the deal. This is so important. He's like, please finish the show. It is because it's a good show. I've been seeing people talk about The Boys and the fall from grace that it's had. Not just this season, but since that first season, if I'm being honest. Because I was looking at, I think, the top 25 or top 40 TV shows of all time. And The Boys season 19 is right smack in the middle of that list.
Starting point is 00:35:49 Season 19 has me confused. 2019 the year. Season 1. That season is right smack in the middle of that list. Aggregating all official real ratings. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:36:05 He's questioning the authority of who's ranking TV shows. IMBD, Rotten Tomatoes, places like that. Media judging aggregate websites like all the official ones. Season 1 was really good. It was political. It wasn't obvious.
Starting point is 00:36:21 It genuinely was excellent TV. I think Taylor's never seen it so he thinks of it as like a marvel movie first season and uh it just i just that's kind of why i stopped i just didn't really enjoy it i loved it of course like the all of our favorites are right at the that top tier like the sopranos the wire uh breaking bad like those are in the top five um and then it just goes down from there there weren't any shows on there i haven't seen on imdb planet earth 2 number two and then planet earth original number the first planet earth of the top three band of brothers chernobyl the wire avatar
Starting point is 00:37:00 the last airbender i remember the sopranosranos. I think you need to exclude those nature documentaries. I love Chernobyl. I thought it was really good. Oh yeah, I guess I did say that. I would exclude those nature documentaries and planet Earth things from that type of list because I really want to look at That's fair, but they are great.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Planet Earth 2 is awesome. Planet Earth 2 kind of is scripted. Obviously, there's a script, but I mean scripted television. I want to see a drama or a sci-fi. Bluey is number 15 of the top shows of all time.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Bluey? It's a show for babies. Is that the Hawk Tooey show? The Hawk Bluey show. It's where these little animated dogs are spitting on cocks and sucking i like the boys maybe two episodes like the second the fifth one i forget what it was the fourth one like the first three i was kind of with a lot of people maybe the first four and
Starting point is 00:37:58 then i was like oh this is getting a little better i'm enjoying it i got a kick out of it and then the last one i I mean, what was it? What was the guy's name? Tech something. Tech tech night. He's a Batman type guy, but he's like sexually perverted. And they just stretched out the sexual perversion to be like 30 minutes of
Starting point is 00:38:18 the show. And I get that the boys is like the shock jock of TV shows, but I'm like give me some more plot development, please. Just tickling the dude's feet. Oh, tickled.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Well, you don't want to watch the latest episode of the boys because there's a lot of a lot of tickling. He's strapped to a chair. I don't know the name of that. He's on a spanking bench and he's strapped down. And he's pretending he's in disguise at this. So basically, the upper echelon of the Republican Party is meeting upstairs. And Tech Night has taken him downstairs to his dungeon because our character, Stewie, is in the guise of like a super villain let's just say
Starting point is 00:39:07 like a week but it turns out this super villain and um the host had this weird sexual relationship that is like on the down low and he's like hey come on and of course our guy follows him because why wouldn't he and the next thing you know he's strapped to this spanking bench and he's getting like forcibly tickled by this lady while she rubs one out. And then she like rubs her pussy slime all over his face. I did like that. And they made the first thing they did is that
Starting point is 00:39:33 he like pulls out a German chocolate cake and he goes, your favorite. And Stewie's like, oh, yeah, it's great. Like, all right, take your pants off. Sit in it. I know you love that texture. Stewie's like, oh shit. He's rubbing his ass.
Starting point is 00:39:50 I was thinking we maybe eat it this time. There was a second cake for eating. That I appreciate. He's like, all right, now fart on it. While he's telling him to fart on it, he's autoerotic choking himself. He's dangling from this little suspension rig. This sounds ret-erotic, choking himself. He's dangling from this little suspension rig.
Starting point is 00:40:06 This sounds retarded. It was so awkward, and I watched it alone. I was looking at the dog like, you know, this is just an episode in a series I've been watching. I didn't single this out. I didn't go season four, episode three, minute 37.
Starting point is 00:40:21 I didn't queue this up. You can't judge me based on a show being really stupid and bad, Murphy. This is what's on, Murphy. Don't judge me. It went too far. It went too long. I want a little more plot development. There was so much ham-handed.
Starting point is 00:40:38 They're just doing the Republican party now. They never said they were Republicans. I mean, you're kind of dumb if you don't get it, but they don't call them that. I thought they... Maybe I could be wrong. Maybe don't use the word Republican, but you don't need to. Remember when the Speaker of the House
Starting point is 00:40:53 is there upstairs and he's like, yep, only took 15 votes. They're just like one reference after another for the real world political parties. It's wild. The one guy, one of the guys at the party was talking to the female vice president-to-be, who's a mutant, and he's
Starting point is 00:41:15 telling her, a woman's body can actually reject a rape, and she'll only get pregnant if she wishes for it to happen you know there's ways the but the vagina can close itself off and he's telling this to a woman and she goes right and she just walks away and i know that that's a direct quote from a from a conservative representative i remember when he said it that's what we need we need like more really ham-handed liberal television it's not they're not represented in media taylor let me just say this they don't have their when i their fingers in every fucking pie we need more of that there's a change to come in taylor because let me
Starting point is 00:41:57 tell you this i noticed this this week for the first time in my entire fucking life okay so i consume a lot of right-wing media for a lot of reasons it's it's almost comforting like a warm blanket like yeah what's inside you is right it's true but all you know there are more of us we must band together that sort of thing and i enjoy that and they'll say wild shit they'll be like oh the election's over biden's retarded um democrats are demonic pedophilic demon devils and i you know stuff like that and um and i'll be like ah and then i'll switch over to you know cnn msnbc msnbc is way over there on the left um and it's like night and day usually except for this last week it's because everybody's saying the same thing.
Starting point is 00:42:47 They're making fun of Biden and talking about how Biden can't hack this. And there's this little crack of division in the party of people who are wanting him to step down and speaking vocally, publicly, that the president needs to step down or needs to be evaluated or 25th Amendment this, or maybe Kamala does that. step down or needs to be evaluated or 25th amendment this, or maybe Kamala does that. And, and, and if we can see that crack in the party,
Starting point is 00:43:07 that means it's way bigger than what we're seeing. That means there's a, there's at least that many people over who are quiet, who don't want to like, who are waiting to see like which side to jump on, on this, you know, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Cause speaking from the left, I've seen that crack in the Trump world for years, right? There's anti-Trumper is a term that everyone's heard of for a reason that exists. So now there's anti-Bidens. And I'm like, I don't know what to make of this because I agree with you. Like when I watch every news source and I watch a lot of news, ABC, NBC, Fox, everybody, everybody is talking about Biden. Parkinson's disease is the new thing.
Starting point is 00:43:44 I tried to look at Biden's Parkinson's disease diagnosis level-headedly. Holy shit. Looks guilty. Looks like he has it to me. They're just, I saw a guy on, I forget, one of the like mainstream news is, you know, call it NBC. But if it's not them, it's CBS or whatever. And this guy was a Parkinson's expert Democrat. You know,
Starting point is 00:44:05 this is what he does. He diagnoses and treats Parkinson's for living neurologist, et cetera, real medical doctor. And he's like, it's obvious, obvious. And he starts going through the things like when he walks,
Starting point is 00:44:19 he doesn't swing his arms. His gate is like shuffling short steps. And I can't list all the things but like i've become a uh an armchair parkinson's disease expert over the last two days very nice it's like guilt everything but the tremor this guy fits oh there's a lot of mental things having to do with like trailing off towards the end of your sentence and getting quieter i'm like oh my god he can't fucking stop doing that yeah and uh three years did you see the stefanopoulos interview that he did i uh not back not the whole thing i just saw
Starting point is 00:44:51 i saw a lot of it though i probably have like eight of the 20 minutes i saw and and i think i'm gonna say what taylor's thinking which is that didn't help your case right if you're trying to get out there and say hey that guy you saw in the debate, that's a bad 90 minutes. Now I want to show you what I really got. And then you get more of the same. That is what I saw. That's what everybody's seeing. And I mean, you guys won't agree or approve of this mindset. I would literally vote for a corpse over Donald Trump. I think Donald Trump is a bad, immoral person that deserves himself and tried to overthrow the country last time. I think he's the worst president we've ever had. And most historians agree with that. He's
Starting point is 00:45:29 amongst the bottom one or two presidents in the history of the planet. In fairness, historians almost always... The planet? Alright, you can't say the planet. Only our country. I went too far. I'll give you that. I know Taylor's going to say all those historians are employed by Snopes and they're secret
Starting point is 00:45:44 left-wing infiltrators, whatever. whatever no they're openly left-wing uh yeah openly left-wing with not any sources or references just say that but everybody seems to agree trump like he's terrible terrible president except for his sycophants i would vote for a corpse over trump but i'm not lying when i say i kind of am voting for a corpse over Trump. Like, I see that. I don't think Trump is a good president, and I don't think he'll be a good president this next time. Like, I am voting. I will vote for him the same reason a lot of people voted for Biden as like a fuck you to CNN, establishment politicians, these forever wars, like all these institutions like the CIA, the FBI, they all clearly hate him. And so it's like, oh, you hate this guy?
Starting point is 00:46:36 Fuck you. I don't like you. I'm picking the guy you hate. If you hate him, I'd rather vote for the guy hated by all these despicable institutions than the person promoted by those institutions. And so it's just a, not a protest vote, but a fuck you vote. I'm not allowed to vote, but if I were. I'm going to mail one in for you, bud. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Make it 10. I'm going to mail 20 in for you, and I'm going to make you vote Democrat, bitch. That's what you did last time. I throw the election to draw you. There's a South Park episode where Cartman has done that. And then he's holding it over Kyle's head that he's responsible for Barack Obama being the president. And all this goodwill that it's created. And so if Kyle doesn't be a slave, he's going to reveal that.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Actually, I stole the election election that's a good one um yeah i i i just i just really enjoy it when trump wins i i get it i just i like that he's a bit of a villain you know uh seems like he might even diddle them kids that's a little concerning that i've been seeing a lot of attention towards lately. That rape case of the 13-year-old. That's what we're pushing. Project 2025. The rape case that was dismissed with him and the 13-year-old. The interview he did with Howard Stern where he said he liked to peek on the
Starting point is 00:47:56 barely dressed teen USA contestants. They're pushing those first two hard. And the Epstein files have been released and Trump apparently has all these call logs going back and forth with epstein personally 77 or so don't worry about that yeah and then there's the girl the girl who testified that donald trump uh had sexual oh that lying lady the one who liked the pert nipples or something like that that thing
Starting point is 00:48:21 i don't know fogel too there's definitely a trend of trump and the pedophile angle and it better it's all smoke right until you see the video and even then who's going to believe it nowadays yeah it looks bad it looks bad but it's interesting you can see when um like the media all gets like a pamphlet from the White House communication director, or at least all their cronies get the same message because they're they'll all use the same phraseology. There's a great montage of it on on YouTube. If you search Biden sharp as a tack, you'll see that there was a day there was there was this day when all of a sudden every single I mean, hundreds of people. The president is sharp, sharp as a tack and not just media but politicians too so you can see that there's a it's it's a visible conspiracy
Starting point is 00:49:13 and you know how the internet can manipulate things they it's different voices and it's video and i mean they're like coming at you like a fucking 1990s virtual reality game. There's so goddamn many. I've enjoyed seeing like just now that it's acceptable to notice that Biden's a senile old man, like just a avalanche of it where all these many journalists, a lot of politicians are just like, yeah, we've seen this for years. Yeah. Oh, that thing we were calling people a crazy conspiracy theorist for three months ago. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:48 We've actually noticed a decline in him for years now, but it's acceptable to say now. And so we need to really figure out the future of the party. It's like this has been happening and they've been covering it up, doing their best to running cover for him being a senile old man for years now. Our media apparatus is so fucking corrupt. Just hand in glove with our elected officials. We need Trump in there to root out corruption. How many times can you remember Biden falling? Probably just support Israel and give tax cuts to rich people.
Starting point is 00:50:15 That's all he's going to do. I can remember Biden falling to the ground no less than three different occasions. Yes. You know what I mean? And look, I get like we all have a little slip every now and then but is there anyone in the world who has the red literal red carpet rolled out in front of them more often than this guy this guy should never fall down there's there's
Starting point is 00:50:36 probably a guy that he's like i have another thing i forgot to add earlier but nobody's caught him yet you notice that fuck i i was talking about him in the Parkinson's diagnosis. And I knew that the White House doctor had met with the Parkinson's expert. And I was like, OK, that's a little suspicious. I don't want to go too overboard. And then I learned the White House doctor had met with the Parkinson's expert eight times. And I'm like, OK, that seems like a lot. That seems like a lot you know like that seems like a lot to overlook so what do you like less that your your president's doctor consults with a parkinson's expert on a
Starting point is 00:51:12 daily basis or that the or that donald trump seems to consult with a pedophile wrangler on a daily i mean the pedophile wranglers are wash they all they all go to pedo island they should probably I'm on your team more more or less Taylor here but but you know that that Epstein stuff is like like I'm gonna call a spade a spade like that I'm not wild I'm being antagonistic
Starting point is 00:51:38 obviously if he's going to keep it up what are you why are you peeling back the fucking third wall here more staunch. We've only got nine minutes. I mean, yeah. It's all fake news. We'll see where this Trump-
Starting point is 00:51:54 The new thing I've been hearing lately, and this is funny to me, he could rape a child on Fifth Avenue and they'd still vote for him. And I'm like, yeah, that sounds about right. Not everybody, of course. There's people in the middle who are deciding who to vote for based on platforms or whatever. And they're choosing, right?
Starting point is 00:52:13 I'm not a thousand percent better. I'm over here literally saying I would vote for Biden's corpse. Yeah. Corpse. Because I think Trump is that bad a man. You've been looking at the rest of the map. If there was indisputable evidence that Trump was doing that shit on epstein island i think he loses everyone rapidly like we should vote for an actual pet do you want to do do you want to do
Starting point is 00:52:35 like a show on election night like i don't know if it falls on election night but would you like to like watch the results come in and record ourselves and like make that the show make make that a segment? I'd love to, but I'm not sure it's possible anymore. We could edit it after the fact to the good parts. I hear you, but... Yeah, but they take five weeks to count election results. All right, never mind.
Starting point is 00:52:54 That's where I am with Taylor. Oh, we're going to know. No, no, no, no, no. We're going to know. This is either... If it's a slam dunk, we will. The odds makers say that it is more likely that trump wins a landslide than that biden wins by a small margin at this point kamala is a better betting
Starting point is 00:53:11 favorite to win she's in second place right now above joe biden no way nobody likes her she has been well well it's the eventuality if he dies yeah democrats have better people than kamala i don't not according to the i disagree with taylor and it's not that i think that she's the best at running for office which i think was the core of your point but i think that she's like in place to take over biden's like fundraising apparatus and slip right into that spot in the way that like amy klubichar would be starting from scratch she doesn't have a ground game right she isn She doesn't have that. But Kamala goes in there and just inherits everything that's done.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, the infrastructure's in place. That makes sense. Yeah, that would be the smoothest transition and the least bumpy rope would be Kamala taking over because like you said, she inherits the entire apparatus and all the key holders with months and months
Starting point is 00:54:01 of what's normally a lame duck presidency. But now instead it's, all right, we're going to get you up to speed on how we build your cabinet, what your first hundred days, your first hundred days are, you know, not starting. You've got this big head start, you know, on her presidency. I didn't consider her being president. It's training wheels. Do you think that that is the...
Starting point is 00:54:20 If he dies right now, she takes over as president. She also takes over as candidate in my opinion like like de facto so and then then she starts her new presidency but you said if he dies let's say does he chooses not to run for re-election he's stepping aside oh by the way if he's making this prediction if he steps aside all the democrats are going to feel like like like it's a heroic thing a self-sacrificial move they will paint the one of renamed bridges after him and shit like that for the there'll be that meme where the guys are in heaven reaching down to joe yeah the republicans are never going to line up behind was that good but the democrats were the
Starting point is 00:55:03 best yeah the democrats are going to love this guy for his self-sacrificing, heroic move, stepping aside for the good of the nation, et cetera, et cetera, if he steps down. Really? Because you're suggesting he relinquishes his delegates prior to the convention and then they reallocate somewhere. In my opinion, you just – What then? Delegates? Oh, maybe I misunderstood. You're talking about primary delegates. and then they reallocate somewhere. In my opinion, you just... Wait, delegates? Oh, maybe I misunderstood. You're talking about primary delegates. So yeah, I think I am.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I'm talking about the delegates that he's carrying to the convention right now. It's 3,400 and something or whatever, and you need 1,800 to be the nominee. So he has to relinquish those so that they can go to the person who's going to be their nominee. That's a process that would have to happen. And the only way I can
Starting point is 00:55:46 understand that could happen unless he's incapacitated or dead is that he says, I relinquish them. He's literally telling people, I know you, I know I have you, but no, I relinquish you. You must go elsewhere and find a new candidate. That's 14 million democratic voters. That's what the primary was. 14 million that voted whose votes meant nothing. You want to talk about like there's a big argument right now about owning the libs because they think we live in a democracy when actually we live in a Democratic Republic. And it's like you learned that last week, dude, you didn't remember civics like you don't know. and explain the difference. But the big part of a democratic republic is that we vote for representatives who carry on the ideals that represent us. That's the whole fucking idea.
Starting point is 00:56:32 That's a democratic republic. But you wipe that the fuck out when you just have a group of people in a room somewhere pick the guy who's going to run for president. It would be 1,500 people. It would be finding 1,500 people in that room to say, this guy.
Starting point is 00:56:49 That's all it takes, I think. Who are those people? How do they pick a new one? There'd be a voting process. It'd be like a vote. It's happened before. Remember around Prohibition time. Because I know in the
Starting point is 00:57:06 Boardwalk Empire TV show, they show that that's happening at the convention, and they're voting over and over. So is it just dealer's choice for the Democrats then? They kind of get to pick whoever they please? It's like taking anyone.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Anyone. As far as I know. Who meets the minimum requirements. They could pick Oprah. I think they'd run Gavin Newsom before they ran Kamala. Gavin's in the discussion. So was somebody... I'm just so proud of myself if they run Gavin Newsom. Kamala, Lobachar, I think, and Newsom are the top people.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Yeah. Buttigieg was thrown in the conversation. Lobachar. Me and... I think that's... What? She was the top people. Yeah, Buttigieg was thrown in the conversation. Me and, I think that's, who's the Michigan chick? Yeah, she sucks. Wait, am I right though? Do I have the right name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or no, is it Gretchen Whitmer? Whitman, I think is the one I'm
Starting point is 00:57:53 trying to say. She's Michigan. Yeah, that's who it is because they think she'd carry Michigan which is pretty key to this whole thing. So, Whitmer. You see what I mean? With just invalidating all those 14 million people who oh yeah i do i didn't look at it through that lens until you said it like what the fuck i i picked the guy and i respected that my guy didn't win because there's a whole process and everybody
Starting point is 00:58:15 and we tabulated and counted and now you're just saying that those guys are going to get together have a little pope there's a new pope getting voted in and they're going to light the the smoke when we got it yeah that's how they used to do it but i don't remember when it like changed to this way i have no idea i was saying the 20s i had like the 50s or 60s in my head but i'm not confident enough to say he's wrong i i thought we always had primaries like that no i always thought it was people with cigars in a smoky room that picked the president the nominee people voted right in the convention i thought it was the people in the smoky rooms who were deciding who the peons would get to choose between like that's how i always
Starting point is 00:58:58 imagined it not like them just where they're like ah they can vote for c edward taft or t edward hughes they're both in our pockets fools and then run whoever i okay so in 1924 there was one oh the last brokered convention was in 1952. Yeah, so from 1952 to now, we've been using the primary system. Prior to that, people with cigars and smoky rooms chose who the nominee was. And the convention was interesting because... I don't think that's true.
Starting point is 00:59:36 I think maybe you're misunderstanding. I think the brokered convention happened because there wasn't a majority or something, or there was a candidate who fell into disgrace or something. Like there was a real reason to go with the second place guy. And then there was a, a broker convention to determine who it would be.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Nailed it. I'm right. Zach says you're right. Okay. Yeah. Because I, I don't remember the exact issue in boardwalk empire, but I think maybe the candidate had like a mistress or something and it was coming out and there was a whole problem.
Starting point is 01:00:08 We needed to pick somebody new. And but I think I think, you know, we've always had a representative government, even back to the the 1800s or an earlier and earlier where I have a list of voted brokered conventions. It was 1952, and then it's like 32, 24, 20, 12, 1896, 1884. It's like every four years for the next 50. So I guess starting around Prohibition, it barely ever happened. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. It probably came up with a better system for counting votes and assigning delegates that was more fair so that you avoid that.
Starting point is 01:00:49 So I have no idea how it'll work. I have a feeling it's not going to be. You know, it'll be done if it's done. You know, one of our patrons, Robot, he he placed a one thousand dollar bet that pays back five hundred dollars if Biden, I think, is the nominee, was the bet. And the biggest fear is death, I think, in that betting case. And he was like weighing the – when I heard that bet, I was like, dude, do it, do it, do it. That sounds like such a good bet. I wish I could gamble in my fucking head.
Starting point is 01:01:17 He's only got to make it, what, four more months? Yeah, yeah. This guy's got to just be the candidate. And I just so believe he can. People linger. He has the best health medicine on the planet. No one has access to more fucking secret sauce than Joe Biden does right now. They will keep, they'll cure Parkinson's if it means he can continue on to the November's.
Starting point is 01:01:40 The bitter end. I just tell big jokes on the internet, but I don't think death is the biggest thing. I think replacement is the biggest threat. He's going to live four months, I think. He has to give it up. They can't take it. Isn't that wild that one of the people running for president were like, no, I'm pretty sure he'll live until election day. One of them.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I think he'll make it. And then Trump, barring a McDonald's only enormousest coronary, he'll make it, you know? Yeah, yeah. Trump doesn't look like he's fading. But I've said for years, fat old people click off. The skinny old people fade. He looks good right now. He doesn't look good.
Starting point is 01:02:20 He looks vibrant. He's got an extra dark tan these days. He looks like a new tan guy. By his skin. He's got a new tan guy by his he's got a new hair guy and so so he has switched to full-on like election mode because he has a new spray tan guy and a new hair guy he's got a whole new thing going on um you know because he's fucking old as shit you know but he's still hanging in wins again it's gonna be funny to watch him get that president weight back because he he got so fat in from like what was it probably 16 to 18 like he was just getting fatter and fatter and fatter you know he was just sitting
Starting point is 01:02:52 in a chubster but he was just imagine him having to sit at a table all day long and one of the faults one thing you can't fault him on he does he rides the golf cart god damn it if he if he didn't have that golf cart even if he had a caddy i feel like that would be more respectable right i saw him drive and it was actually more it was better than i expected like he's he's pretty for an old fuck an old fat fuck he's pretty good what he does yeah i mean i i wouldn't plan that much you know what he needs like Like if Putin does this, I think he was a driver in the army or something. He has some back. He drives cars on, you know, publicly a lot. And you never see leaders doing that.
Starting point is 01:03:36 And, you know, you almost sort of assume that they can't anymore. Like I think they asked Barack Obama, like, can you drive? I have a license. I haven't driven in years, you know, hasn't they don't drive anymore they get driven everywhere and to see putin drive the car does sort of like connect him to the everyman i know it's such a like propaganda thing to do but it's like him and kim jong-un laughing listening to party in the usa not only that earlier in the Ukraine war, there was this contested bridge, and he drove a truck across it. He drove a truck across the bridge, and it was like, okay, that's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:04:11 So I like that, but I don't think driving, it doesn't have the same effect on me. Like, to me, if you're president, you should be in the back of a limo. If I put you in a regular car, you look stupid. And I've seen Trump pretend to drive a fire truck before. It's pretty lame. What if Trump had a comedians in cars drink getting coffee, but it was like conservatives in cars getting coffee or something?
Starting point is 01:04:34 And he had like David Spade would be his first guest. I could program this fucking show so well. Trump's driving the car. David Spade is his first guest. David Spade, we have made up to look just like Trump because he already looks a bit like Trump. He's like a mini Trump. He comes with the blonde hair,
Starting point is 01:04:49 complete matching suit, and he does his Trump thing the whole time. Trump drives around. We could fake the drive. We clear off some roads somewhere. We get a movie set, whatever. We make it seem like Trump is a fun, bubbly guy who's pranking the comedian a little bit.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Like, oh, I don't know. I'm just fucking with you. Parallel parts. They break into carpool karaoke during this thing. Yes. I need him to do that. Don't stop believing. He needs to be more likable.
Starting point is 01:05:20 What he's doing right now, I think he's pulling the Biden maneuver. He's in the bunker. He's in the bunker yes he's in the bunker he is and it's a good strategy i think because wonderful why would trump change this news cycle you know this new cycle is killing biden and it only helps the democrats if it actually replaces biden instead it just hurts him and if i'm trump i love it i'm just like yeah you guys keep talking about what you're talking i'm not gonna go out there and fucking what shit anything you know tell some lie uh endorse some white nationalist you know whatever it is that trump
Starting point is 01:05:56 could do to change the news cycle don't do it this is and if anything you know he's still doing his rallies of course so like if anything if the news gets starved for Trump, they have to do that thing they vowed not to do anymore. Televised Trump rallies. I feel like I see him doing it every day. I thought he was addicted to rallying. I thought he was. I might be wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Again, my YouTube algorithms, I need to reset it again. It's just titties and Trump. It's just titties and Trump. That just titties and trump that's like a good algorithm yeah it's titties and trump just give me your login this doesn't sound all bad it's it doesn't take long for that titty and trump virus to take over he's gonna do one in florida but i i haven't everything else is from like a month ago florida that's that's the promised land for him that he he turns out crowds in Florida.
Starting point is 01:06:47 I guess everywhere, but Florida even more so. Florida's red now. DeSantis won a bigger landslide than anybody. He was like 60% of the vote down there. He's going to carry that easily. The question is, to me, is Michigan, Wisconsin, always Pennsylvania, and what's the other bus belt? Not Michigan, but Minnesota. Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:07:02 And what's the other bus belt? Not Michigan, but Minnesota. Minnesota. I'm wondering what the effect that all of those Muslims switching sides is going to have in particular based on the Israeli support in Michigan. They're not going to switch sides. They're going to vote Democrat. Yeah, I would be surprised. Yeah, they're real willy nilly, those Muslims.
Starting point is 01:07:25 You know how they are. Trump is just as pro-Israel and Zionist as Biden. So I agree with Taylor, except they might not vote. Yeah, if they don't vote, that's good. Those people vote. I'm telling you. Here's what I know for sure. Biden's going to lose that Muslim vote
Starting point is 01:07:41 up there. I just think those people mean what they say, and they say what they mean. You know what I mean? They're the ones... It's weird how those political spectrums touch on either end. How I see those towns who have been, I don't want to say taken over,
Starting point is 01:07:56 but they've been populated by Muslim immigrants and their city councils are now that and all that pride shit is nullified. It's like, no, it's illegal to wave a pride flag in this town now. They're like, what the fuck? They didn't see that one coming. Maybe we need some more of these Muslims.
Starting point is 01:08:14 They're not so bad. Taylor, it turns out Republicans like Sharia law too. That was just some fucking Saudi Arabian assholes, Taylor. It turns out the Muslims are kind of chill. Well, I don't know if chill is the word. I mean, as far as you and I are concerned, who's to say that Muhammad didn't have some good things to say?
Starting point is 01:08:33 Of the major religions, they are far and away the least chill. Yeah, but do you really want to be in a chill religion, Taylor? Don't you want a little pizzazz? I want to be Buddhist, if anything. Oh, fuck. I don't even understand Buddhism. I don't think that Buddhism is... Neither do I.
Starting point is 01:08:52 It just seems like the chill one. It is the chill one. I don't even have a God. I don't think Buddha is like a... Like the understanding of Buddhism in the West is probably way different than what it actually is. Because people here, it seems like they just think it's, you know, just kind of be mellow, man.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Like that's what Buddhism is. And it's like, no, I think it's about removing all desire. Right? Isn't that a core tenet of it? Which is SRI religion. Yes. So it's like, all right, isn't all right. Removing desire is. Why religion yes so it's like all right isn't all right removing desire is
Starting point is 01:09:26 why is buddha so fat buddha's not removing desire he's been eating fucking honey like winning the blue or something that's true wow checkmate fucking buddhists checkmate buddhism based on not completely of your centuries old religion centuries if i were to pick a religion I think I'd want as many gods as possible you're crazy man polytheism is nonsense we're going monotheistic
Starting point is 01:09:54 and we're going Abrahamic having multiple gods that just makes it hard to believe makes it silly I'm talking some elephant man with ten arms get out of here is he a guy yeah vishnu is he a god or i believe it's a minor god they have many gods they've got like hundreds of gods uh fucking hinduism with all those gods it's literally like no he's a major
Starting point is 01:10:20 god when they open up an intellectual property and there's way too much fan fiction, everyone was just adding their own gods for a while there, I think. And it really lost control. They lost control of the lore. And now they're trying to backfill it and make it make sense, is my understanding that I made up.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Okay. Well, there's some mistakes here. Vishnu is a major Hindu god, but he is not the elephant dude. That is Ganesha. He's also a Hindu God, but not a big one. Ganesh. Ganesh, thank you.
Starting point is 01:10:53 Well, in any case, Biden's going to lose that Muslim vote up there, and I think Trump's going to win the day in a big way. My best prediction is that he wins Pennsylvania. he wins Wisconsin, and he wins either Michigan or Minnesota, one of them.
Starting point is 01:11:15 They're all almost within the margin of error. He's going to coin flip some of them. He's going to get it. Hope so. some of them he's going to get it hope so and it's not like i remember in the days when florida and um um ohio were like the problem because there was this big blue wall and that's gone like trump i think he's got it you know i think i think biden lost it though i think i think this was this raises biden's to lose not trump's to win yeah i agree i don't think i understand the difference but uh oh i i fucking hate this site dude this is my least favorite and it's not for what you might be
Starting point is 01:11:53 this is 270 to win i have it bookmarked and everything that's close they just call a toss-up you will never get any interesting information out of this site don't take it away yet zach georgia pennsylvania michigan wisconsin nevada and arizona this is close to call right like it's all the states these are all the answers you already knew i could have made this and just been like who's to say who's to say website they don't make any decisions i think it's pretty good um like i some calls. Don't be a bitch. This is updated all the time, Kyle, based on polling results. Anything that's remotely close, these grays,
Starting point is 01:12:31 they just don't make a prediction. That's all it takes, Zach? If he keeps clipping on it, it'll turn blue. Give Arizona to Biden. Guys, we can do this math in our heads okay we'll do it yeah so i can tell you how it works out if he gets he needs all three rust belt states at the
Starting point is 01:12:52 top wisconsin michigan and pennsylvania if he loses any of those he has to get the two toss-ups which is nevada and i think arizona um to make up for one of the three lost up top something like that but uh it seems like his bet is to get the three up top yeah yeah that's uh i i saw new hampshire shading much more close to a toss-up new hampshire dude that whole they they go to 538 and show us New Hampshire with likely voters. When's the last time New Hampshire even went Reagan? It was probably Reagan or Nixon. I do see New Hampshire has Biden winning 71 times out of 100, which you guys know but some people confuse that with
Starting point is 01:13:48 biden getting 71 of the vote that's not it it's it's this it's a subtle thing you know he gets more than half 71 of the time okay that's a lot closer than i would have thought new hampshire's not gonna go but sometimes i look at states like new Hampshire and be like, if New Hampshire went red, he won three states ago. Yeah. If you go to 578, they have this snake that I think is a really interesting way of looking at the race. And you can see how many states need to flip in the other direction. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:23 I look forward to election night and watching it happen. It's a very dramatic time and the newscasters, of course, have vested interests. Right now, YouTube is feeding me that 2016 Trump win shit. The best ones are the ones that go back to the first
Starting point is 01:14:41 time Rachel Maddow found out Trump was going to be the nominee and the rant she went on. He's not going to be the president. He's not going to be the nominee. He's not even going to be in this a week from now. You get away from this huckster and then you fast forward to
Starting point is 01:14:57 election night and it's like, we're afraid. We should be afraid. You should all be afraid. It's such a headwind do you remember on the debate stage this is the primary debates for 2016 they were like what do you think of this election having like no class and it's being won by a carnival barker or something close to that and i think it was ted cruz who was like don't talk to us like that and you know sort of stuck up for trump that's how i remember it i could be off but the uh they didn't think he was even when he was
Starting point is 01:15:32 winning they discounted him for a long time yeah yeah it was and it creates this montage of disbelief and and ridicule slowly changing to fear and disbelief and it's um it's fun to watch like i don't dislike any of those people um in particular i i enjoy watching rachel maddow she's fun she's she's she's she got spunk there was uh there was a really big swing at the end of 2016 that wasn't represented in the polls when comey announced that he was investigating Hillary Clinton for some sort of criminal something or other. So the polls, which take like 10 days to reflect bad news, didn't reflect it yet, but the votes did. That was a big part of it, but also
Starting point is 01:16:19 there were missing Trump votes because Trump voters were embarrassed to be Trump voters and they weren't talking to pollsters. It was often framed as Trump voters don't want anything to do with the left wing survey ideology or some shit. And it's like, ah, they are. If there was going to be a guy to be like,
Starting point is 01:16:37 get the hell off my property, he's probably conservative. And also like, if you're a Trump voter, you might just been like, it's a little distasteful, but I'm voting for Trump. You don't even want to admit it. You're like, you don a trump voter you might just been like it's a little distasteful but i'm voting for trump you don't even want to admit it you're like you don't want anybody writing it down and so they were they were i remember the narrative came in and hordes and there were
Starting point is 01:16:54 i remember the narrative about the shy trump voter uh it doesn't match my personal observation to me trump voters are the least shy fucking people in america some of them are they've got their hats and their flags and their it and their fucking dress code. That's why the other part of them is shy, though. The part that you see makes the other side of America. Makes the other side that won't be associated with those people. The Trump voters were undercount. What happens is they don't just, if I do a poll, I look at who I polled and sort of massage those results in an effort to make it more accurate. It sounds dirty, but it's not. They're just like,
Starting point is 01:17:27 you know, we polled 70% Republicans. That's going to ruin it in our random sample. So we'll take this poll and try to make it reflect likely voters. Well, in 2016, a lot of people who don't normally vote came out. Trump inspired voters who aren't reliable voters, but they became that. That would be fun to see what happens this time.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Yeah. I have Taylor's happiness watch, I think. Salivating. Well, let's get to Taylor's dinner. I'm hungry. I got this out of my system on a PKN. Perfect. You can expand upon this. I got this out of my system on a PKN. Good, good. Perfect.
Starting point is 01:18:06 PKN. You can expand upon this. I've got charts. No, we don't. No.

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