Painkiller Already - PKN 523

Episode Date: August 28, 2024

Pkn 523 sup boys. Oh not too much. Oh just replanting my evening We have our hangouts right after this like there's a little 30 minute interim and then right back in there We had a good time Sunday. I thought had some good code names hangouts have been busy Yeah, a lot of people in there. Everybody's there for the fuck show. I think they're there for code names and fun conversation. The fuck show. I don't know what it's going to take for Kyle to see your dick. We keep asking. I mean, I've just I've shown him before. I'm just not going to do it. I'm totally like, I've already braced myself for one of the DJs to just come in and be like, all right, I'll take matters into my own hands and just like start start masturbating

for us. Okay, Tommy, I wasn't hoping for you, but here we are guys having gay sex. Oh, and you're like, oh, no, Taylor was right. Now everyone's more fun. Suddenly, Taylor's like, you know, it's not so bad. They're both well built guys. And Woody's like, look how hairy they are. I'm like, fuck, this really backfired. Yeah. Now don't come have sex in the hangout.

Or do. All are welcome. Sex or no sex as long as you're 18 years or older. Yes. No, no doctor disrespects, no Chris is for Mr. Beast, none of that over on our Discord. That's literally the only rule between a difference between our Discord and Dr. Disrespect's is the age limit, everything else is the same. Do you think Dr. Disrespect was inspired

by Billy Mitchell at all? They look so similar. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. Yeah, I think so. I think maybe to some degree, although it is just a full cover job that he's doing. Billy Mitchell doesn't have to start. I mean, not the aspiring pedophile.

That's Dr. Disrespect's innovation. You mean his character. On the character, yeah. Yeah, that's his little secret ingredient. Right, Billy Mitchell has his character flaws, but they don't include trying to bang children. Doc, is that oregano? little flavor little secret ingredient right billy mitchell has his character flaws but trying to bang children doc is that oregano is that is that basil it's pedophilia i knew it little little bit of pedophilia sprinkled in there allegedly no i don't think i don't think any of it has to do with billy mitchell just looking at billy mitch now. The only big similarity is they both have hair that's too long.

Okay. And the gaming. Or I guess the gaming. Yeah, they do play video games. I guess that's the biggest similarity by far. And I think they're both tall guys. I always think of Billy Mitchell as tall. He's 5'11 here. Billy Mitchell. He's got a good persona. Like he comes out with the flag. You can tell he's like not a master manipulator, but like

Like a part-time manipulator or something right that mm-hmm. I mean yeah, he has a following he has disciples He has people who run interference for he had one fucking gay boy who wanted to suck Billy Mitchell's dick or something I think there was that one off the top of my head dude. There was that one dude He's such a fucking bitch boy I like I'm not violent but I'm like somebody slap a fucking piss out of this guy It's got such a pussy when our hero comes to the arcade to break the world record in front of everybody's face in their face And that one gay boy is running around. Hey everyone. Hey everyone There's about to be a King Kong end screen over here,

you wanna come and gather around and put some pressure on this guy so Billy's record doesn't get broken. It's like, you fucking loser. Not like everybody else there. He didn't stop him from breaking the record, but it did. You don't like video games?

It kinda backfires. So Kyle laid it out. This guy has broken the record and they keep invalidating the tapes he sends in. They're like, we're not sure that your machine is stock. We're not sure that your tape is unmodified, et cetera. So he goes and he does it live. Now live is hard to have,

it's hard to have the best day of your life on any particular day. So the live stores don't tend to be as good as the best score you've ever had, but he does it. He goes live and he achieves the best Donkey Kong score that's ever been achieved. And just as he's approaching it, this guy runs around trying to put pressure on him.

The guy who's doing it had almost reached a kill screen in live, but he didn't, and neither has Billy Mitchell. This is the only person who's ever done it live. Weaver, right? Weaver is the guy who's doing it, right? So I'm close to that. Fucking hero. So he gathers a crowd and he's like,

hey, this guy's about to get a kill screen. You might wanna witness this. This guy's getting, he's getting close to a kill screen. You should witness this. And he tells the cameras, yeah, you know what? If you wanna do it live, there's pressure involved. There's a crowd, everyone watching you looking over your shoulder, seeing if you're doing it right, backseat, whatever they're doing. He's trying to prevent him from having success on behalf of himself and Billy Mitchell because he calls Billy Mitchell

afterwards and says, but it's not. Oh yeah, that's the other thing. Like, like efforts. He's like, he's, he's like a, he's not even a cycle. He's a worm He's a he's a he's a mr. Smithers to the other guys. Mr. Burns. Oh, my mother's have a records been broken, sir But what happened is weaver who's playing was like I was kind of losing energy. I was feeling like a zombie I think it takes like eight hours to get to a kill screen My god, and yeah the game into the game. Yeah, the game can't go anymore. Yeah.

So he's like, zombieing out and, you know, kind of dragging and he's like, and it kind of reinvigorated me. I got some energy back, you know, now I got a crowd watching me like, and then he did it. He broke the record network. So it's like when Dwight was trying to get him, Dwight was trying to fuck Toby up when they had their marathon run. And he's like, don't worry, I put a modium in his in his food. And he's like, don't you mean X lax?

He's like, huh. And it cuts to Toby and he's running super good. He's like, usually I've got to stop for a bathroom break after halfway through one of these races. But I don't know. Today's my day. Killing it. He wins the race and nobody's there to even measure time. He's like, where are we? I don't know. Toby never did anything wrong, right?

Was there anything hate worthy about that guy? No, he's the writer. He just wouldn't let Michael do the nonsense Michael wanted to do. And he was because he was the only person ever saying no, I think Michael was always pissed at him for that. But I don't recall him ever like preventing Michael from doing something that would have been good for Michael in the company.

Right? He always was saving Michael from himself. Yeah, yeah. He's like an HR like Like Michael, no, we can't have fire poi spinners in the paper warehouse. And he's like, Kobe, I hate so much about the things you choose to be. There's just one good scene. He's like, Michael's like, why why don't we invite the Boy Scouts? He's like, oh, I don't know. It's a school night. It's fire hazard. There'll be gambling and adult things and alcohol shit. Should I go on?

Michael, children at their casino night. One of those giant checks probably. You're roboting. Internet Goblin has come for Kyle. Yes. Maybe it's another little goblin chewing a cable. He's starting to come back. Do you guys remember the song Michael sang

that like goodbye Toby? Goodbye Toby. Yes, dude. So the 76 years ever had a player named Toby, Toby Harrison, I can't remember his name right now. Anyway, he was a fine player. He was average, but he had a max contract and he prevented the sixes from having somebody good.

And he was maybe, actually, maybe he was a below average player, but a legit NBA player. He was just below average. Anchor contract. And they paid him, yeah, the max. And the sixes were just like the fans kept playing that goodbye toby song they're like toby can't hurt us anymore he's gone he can't come

back they were talking about bringing him back in a more reasonable contract and we're like no not at any price i just want him out of my life just want him out of here so that's the sacramento's problem that episode is is really good to me. That's one of the top 10 episodes of all time, the Goodbye Toby episode. Michael puts on a party, but then Jim also wants to propose, so he beefs up the party with a little cassiola too. By the time it's over, there's genuinely a Ferris wheel and a band outside with fireworks and seating just to see Toby off and

Michael singing his own song he wrote Goodbye Toby! Toby's going away! He's just so glad and Toby tries to get up there and he's like I just want and he cuts him off he's like get out of here that's enough of you this is about me goodbye party. Did Toby leave? He did. He moved to Costa Rica, broke his back, was in the hospital and then moved back. It was his dream to live in Costa Rica and surf and live his days on the beach and he broke his

neck the first day. And so it cuts to him in a Costa Rican hospital that he's sharing a room with another like Costa Rican who's paralyzed. And he's like, I only sang out of view of the window and TV's on all day. And it's like, there's another, it's just real bad. He didn't even get to see the beach.

Like he didn't get to see the beach. He didn't break his neck surfing. Toby is not nearly as like, I mean, Toby's a good, you know, straight man for Michael. That's his purposes I really don't like Andy like I try to like Andy he's just I liked him at first him showing up was almost you know like when shows evolve like there's that good video you sent me years ago Kyle that's like when Homer really morphs and the humor style changes and all of that.

The Flandreising. Over time. Yeah. That's what Andy is like in the office. Like any semblance of like a normal-ish business silly thing happening, like the diversity day, like that's out there. But Andy showing up, like nothing is believable anymore. Like now it's so over the top. It's the only funny thing where originally,

Dennis is kind of a cynical, selfish guy. And by season eight, he's actually Hannibal Lecter. They're joking about how they've allowed it to ramp up so much. See, they rebooted the Andy character after his anger management because that wasn't working. There's a good YouTube video called The Office Andy This Wasn't Working and it's like Andy raging or whatever. Maybe I'm poisoned because that's where I'm at right now. I didn't finish the series originally. I found those super episodes and so I started back over again on that. Yeah.

And I'm still on the, he just went to anger management on the one I saw. It gets better now. Okay. So when he comes back, he becomes- I'm gonna get through this six weeks of mirroring facial expressions, lots of smiling and aggressive hand holding. Notting. Notting aggressively. You must be Andy.

Yes, I am. Yes, I am. Looking insane. Yeah, so they reinvent his character when he comes back because the writers saw that wasn't working. Fans weren't enjoying an actually violent and sometimes scary person in the office. So they he came back as the butt of the joke. Now he's like pacified by his anger management. Basically, they cut his balls off. And so now he can he's free to be the butt of everyone's joke

and to be constantly picked on derided for like the next four to five years. And then they're like, Michael's gone. Let's make Andy a piece of shit again. And they make him a different kind of piece of shit. Like he just abandons Aaron to go to like sail a boat at one point. You know who else changes? Yeah, I didn't like that because Aaron's seems like the nicest character. But Kevin or in the early seasons sounds just like a flat he's got like season one Homer Simpson voice where he hasn't like amped it up yet and like

later seasons of Kevin he's like a complete retard yeah like that's okay so there are really fun fan theories about that and he's talked about it the the actors talked about it drinking out of a lead coffee mug every day. That would be funny that his intelligence was actually diminishing. I think there might be a theory surrounding that, but the idea is that he is defrauding the company very clearly. They're hint-setting all the time that he's smarter than he says he is. First of all, he won the World Series of Poker. He won a bracelet in that. I get it's a big tournament. Much smaller than back then though. Winning a bracelet at anything, even his two to five draw odd even blackie card

World Series of Poker bracelet invitational. If you win a poker bracelet, you're smart, you can do math, but they act like he's retarded. So he's been defrauding the company all those years and he admits it several times. And he- He does? Yeah. company all those years and he's he admits it several times and he does he yeah and he's sort of he's because a black guy gets gets hired and they find out that he was he went to prison and they like hey what'd you go to prison for we need to know and he's like

actually a little insider trading a little fixing the books blah blah blah and Kevin saw her the camera's like that sounds like what I do every day. And so at the end of the show, Kevin is shown to have retired with his own sports bar in town. He owns the bar. So the idea is that he defrauded the company pretending to be retarded so that he would be like fly under the radar and any mistakes in the books would be like, oh, Kevin, just erase

that, but the right thing. You'd never be like, Kevin's fixing the books. You'd be like, Kevin, let me fix this. I hope that's what the writers are going for. Well, what Kevin says, the actor says it is, is that, and I think this would have been in the finale, but the finale ended up being very long, was that everyone wanted to have a drink with him and they were always buying him a drink at the bar, but he was just telling the bartender to add it to his tab drink with him and they were always buying him a drink at the bar, but he was just telling the bartender to add it to his tab, give him credit. And eventually he built up so much credit, he owned the bar. So you're not drinking? He was drinking, but everybody

was offering him so many drinks. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. No, I love The Office. It's one of the greatest sitcoms of all time. It's right up there with Seinfeld for me and a few others. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I love The Office. It's one of the greatest sitcoms of all time. It's right up there with Seinfeld for me and a few others. It's great. Yeah, I'm glad I'm giving it. And I had no, that's crazy that they have these episodes where usually you watch something with extended scenes and it's like, oh, there's an extra 15 seconds in this scene right here where they, you know, walked out longer. This it's like, oh, this 22 minute episode is now 36 minutes and the next one's 41 minutes and the next one's 29 minutes. And like they all have at least five to 10 minutes.

Whole new scenes. What I noticed is they're a lot more nasty. Whole new plot lines. Like there are whole like plot lines that get cut out sometimes. Yeah, yeah, the C plot will be cut. I noticed that everybody's a little bit nastier with their language they'll say like piss and uh, and ass and bastard and bitch like like ton of meredith stuff

That like did not make it to the real show. I notice Merit is fucking disgusting meredith meredith is actually fucking gross She is she i'm glad they didn't hire like a pretty actress and like put big glasses on her or something like clearly she's just fucking gross. Yeah I mean they hired the kind of woman that looks like she would behave the way Meredith does so well casted. Yeah, Phyllis too. I like that Phyllis the the Phyllis being a farter thing is way more explored in the extended scenes. It's sort of hinted at in the main show. There is a scene where her and Michael are sitting there on a wedding day and Michael goes,

Phyllis, did you break wind? And she goes, no, that wasn't me. It's just the two of them in the room. And I think I always thought it was Michael and he's lying for the cameraman's sake and for the documentary's sake. Like he doesn't want to be, Did you break wind? It's very natural reaction. It's your wedding day. A lot of you're stressed. She's like, that wasn't me. And then like her husband walks in and Michael's like, she's she's really gassy today. But like in the extended versions all the time, they're talking about Meredith's farts and how they've got like air fresheners around her to deal with them. And everybody has to get up with it. Yeah, I like the I like how there's more Creed.

All of Creed's little one liners are funny. I wish he was more fleshed out. I don't know. Maybe I just haven't gotten to it yet. But I don't know if there's been any like plots around him. Can you do much more with him? I don't think he's a very good actor. Like, does he have a lot of range to really deliver extended storylines?

No, but like an episode or two, maybe a Creed episode. You could replace him with like the can of air freshener they use for Meredith and all those jokes would be the same. He has good delivery on those like one liners where he's like sitting there and he'll be like, Oh, I've spent a lot of time in South Asia. you know, some of it not in prison or whatever the line it like he's he's good at that kind of dead. You know, he's famous, right? He was in the grassroots. I knew he was a musician. I didn't know who it was exactly. He's like a world famous musician. He's turd with every like not that famous. Well, you know, you know, i don't know any of the monkeys or i know miss creed from the office yeah yeah well that's later on he there's a there's a deleted scene where he's like yeah i toured with the grassroots between 68 and 76 actually i play with janis

joplin i play and like goes down this list of like the greats and they're like really like yeah Goes down this list of like the greats. They're like really So now you sell paper, that's right When he's like trying to remember what his job is Business like to they were they were just regional distributors. So they get it from, and there's a kid's day and the kid's like, what do you do? And he's like, well, we buy the paper from the, from the pulp mill and the paper company,

or the pulp mill, yeah. And then we sell it to businesses and schools and people like you. You're just a middle man. Why don't, and someone goes, yeah, they should and people like you. You're just a middle man. Why don't, and someone goes, yeah, they should get rid of you. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, let's calm down kids. Like, why don't they just sell it directly to the people?

It's like they do, it's called the office depot and it's killing our business. It's like. Yeah. Frankly, it's kind of killing our business. Yeah. I mean, so I guess that was filmed at a time like I cannot imagine there are regional paper distributors now.

It's about yes or no. Does Office Depot like service a bit like a Pepsi needs reams and reams of paper every day, every week, every month? Where do they get it? Is it from Office Depot? I would imagine they just use Office Depot or one of those companies and they have like an internal agent that handles their account. I assumed that there were paper companies that just made their own paper and sold it.

So like if you, you know, you were ordering your, if you're ordering, like, like if you, if you need that much paper, like on an industrial level. I like that they picked something so mind-numbing and boring to be the product that they're working with. Have you been to Scranton? You probably haven't. No, I've never been to Scranton. Is it not nice? The show represents it pretty well. I almost worked there. I applied for a company that ... Where do you go to search search all your WebMD? Yeah. I applied to their competitor. It was like AmeriHealth or something. It was the second biggest and you know if you're

not the biggest like you're fucked. And he actually, they gave me a job offer but I didn't take that one. And yeah, anyway, I was gonna work in Scranton. I got got a job. Was it because of Scranton that you turned it down? No, the other company was better. Like the, the other company was a software company. I was in support, but it was in software and I felt like there was more sort of growth and the computers were the core of what they did. This was a website. I don't know. It just seemed like a company that made software as opposed to a company that published content. I wanted that. Yeah, makes

sense. I went up there a long time ago. There's a gun show up there. I did a thing at not in screen but nearby and we went to screen. It was nothing to write home about but it was cool to see the place where the show was. I remember that was the interviewing manager spent his spare time volunteering at prisons to lower recidivism rates. And he's like, everyone's in prison because of decision-making.

And I teach people how to make better decisions, you know, to do how to recognize they're in a crossroads where the wrong decision could have a seriously negative impact on their life. And just to make the right one, you know it's the right one, but you're not choosing it for some reason. Why?

And we dive into that. And he felt like his recidivism rates were like way better than the people who didn't attend his class. That's good. Yeah. At the time I was like working with prison, that sounds yucky, but now I'm like, that's kind of, I don't know, heroic.

I would be fun to work in a prison. Trust me. What would you do? I don't like the environment. I feel like it's everyone's interesting But every thing like the floors to me, I'm probably wrong but I imagine them to be like unpainted concrete and I imagine the walls to be painted cinder blocks and Like that's what prison is to me and I don't want to go high school as well Yes. Yeah, my college dorm room as well. Yep. At least we had tiles on the floor. I don't mean to brag. We had tiles too.

I remember my swim coach was giving me a tour of the dorms and he's like, oh, they paint the cinder blocks and everything. This is nice. One of my friends freshman year of college was doing like ROTC or something like that. And they had to stay like the ROTC guys were in the oldest dorm on campus. And it was like 80 plus years old, and they hadn't renovated it. And I lucked out just by picking a new dorm or like being assigned a new dorm. And so like, I kind of thought, you know, the drywall, the clean, nice new tile,

like my dorm was kind of representative. And I went over to his once like before a party and it was like, like Abu Grabe level, like, like peeling paint everywhere smelled, smelled bad. There was no insulation for sound anywhere. smelled smelled bad. There was no insulation for sound anywhere. And so like someone sneezing two levels away from you just echoed through the corridors. And it's like, this is this is harrowing.

I hate it here. And then they tore that place out like two years later. Ars was good for sound. Everything about the building was just like prison quality, solid built for abuse. The doors were all like into the hallway, external grade steel doors, thick, the cinder block, like the sound didn't really go from room to room very much, like that aspect was good.

What sucked about living in the dorms, did you live in the dorms too you just said? Yeah, freshman year. Our fire alarms got pulled like sometimes three or four times a week. Like I got to be one of the few that was like, I'm not even leaving my room. Fuck this. It did happen more often than it should.

Yeah. And then like going from college to adulthood, crazy. That doesn't happen at like Marriott's and like Hilton's that I'm staying at. But in college, it was just like people with that one and everyone has to go out there and in their Pajamas and stand in the dewy grass for an hour assholes I know assholes happen at least twice because someone's going to put their headphones on and be like fuck it and burn alive in there You know Yeah, and I wouldn't after the first or second time. It's like no these doors are hot. I'm fine

Boy who cried wolf. Yeah. Until someone burns. Although I don't think we have a when's the last time a dorm burned to the ground in the United States? How? I mean what's gonna burn? Cinder blocks. Yeah. I feel like yeah you really couldn't burn those down. Well I don don't know. We've seen, it seems some even more impressive buildings fall. Yeah. I live in, I built them out of this fact about nine, about the world trade center that they were built to survive a plane crash. Like I just, you've heard that. I heard that through my entire life.

Like for the first whatever, I don't know what I was 30 something you know, I was like, oh, I got hit by a plane. People don't know like I do, it's designed for that. They're fine. Oh man, dude, that dude, that, can you imagine being the guy who was like, oh, for sure, totally. Like I personally put in the anti plane metal. And then that day he's like, oh no, they caught they're gonna they're gonna know I like bigger

You know that that was it. And of course, there's the whole jet fuel thing. But yeah, yeah, I don't know I think it's set up. I think it was who was it? Who was it? Yeah, who was setting him setting us up? W he wanted a reason to attack Saddam Hussein. I think they, you know, what I always lean to with these is that the CIA was allowing things to get through the cracks because they, but they always thought that they didn't think it would go all the way through and succeed the same way with kennedy But it did that what they wanted was a scare or a close call

That they could use to get sort of a patriot act thing, which they got anyway, of course um, or uh Or or whatever something political, but it just kept Falling through the cracks until there were planes hitting buildings I think it was actually Al Qaeda who did it. That's my theory. Those guys from the caves. Okay. Okay. Brown guys did it. Sure. Kyle, they found their fucking passport

in a manila envelope safely at the bottom of the pile of rubble. Okay, quite case closed. Yeah, what more proof do you need, Taylor? Yeah, that little tidbit. They found that way too fast. They should have waited. It's like when they found the magic bullet sitting next to Kennedy on the stretcher.

They're like, oh, here it is next to him. Look at that. I've been looking at his head and the car. I've been looking at him like he's in the street out there. Yeah, it was sitting next to him this whole've been looking at his head and the car. I've been looking at him. He's in the street out there. It was sitting next to him this whole time on the stretcher. They're like, oh, look in the passports here. Oh, look at that pristine. Yep. Do you think we can release the full docs on that in our lifetime? We don't have the same lifetime really. They haven't released the Kennedy stuff yet. You know,

they keep talking about the Kennedy stuff. Oh, wait till more time passes and then really that's what America seems to do. It's like every 80 years the CIA comes out and is like all that stuff you guys said we did that we said was crazy. We did. But it was so long ago, you know, we're not like that anymore. But it was so long ago, you know, we're not like that anymore Some other guy. Yeah All right, so I'm coming down to the wire I'll be 71

Exciting day until unless they delayed again must be getting moon. Oh, this was space news that I'm surprised you didn't Keep me abreast on frankly Kyle because it seems up your alley. There are astronauts stuck in space right now. Do you know that? Yeah, I do. Yeah. They were supposed to be up there for like eight days. Eight days. And they have to be up there.

A three hour tour. A three hour tour. Eight days. And I think it will be like a year by the time they're retrieved in early Sailing man, let's get the brave and true Let's hope they're brave dude. That's dude. That's such a good show like like that's actually like wait a minute You think gilligan's island is a good show?

I kind of liked it. I was watching when I was a child There's no the one that's playing out right now in outer space. That's the show It's the new gilligan's island like like they were they were supposed to be up there for eight days and they don't know when they're bringing even bring luggage Now the Boeing Starliner astronauts will spend at least 240 days in space Oh my god, they're gonna be ruined when they get back like that's bad for you I'm gonna learn to walk what they're like., I wish there were pictures of what their living quarters are like.

Oh, spacious, I'm sure. They just sent them to the east wing of the space station. I bet it's a nightmare. Like day one up there, I bet you're like, ugh, eight days of this? All right, just Velcro in. Oh man, if I had to spend 240 days up here, I'd kill myself. And they do. I would get seasick so bad. I don't think I'm built for spinning around in space

with those. Do you feel sick? Is seasickness something like motion sickness? I think it is, yeah. And I think it's a feeling that's not too different than hanging upside down. Interesting. All the time.

Your body is designed to have the blood pulled towards your feet. And that's the world that you grew in and evolved for. So when you're weightless, it's not too different than hanging upside down. I'll get you that Dramamine first thing after you start vomiting in the capsule. Did you bring 240 days worth of breath for your 8 day trip. No, but we brought a body bag. You'd fit nicely. I'd have you outside.

And I, yeah, so your inner ear, does it, it depends on gravity, right? Like is there a fluid or something? Yeah, it's gotta be. Yeah, so that would be off. I think there's a bone in there. That's nuts. Yeah there yeah you think so um i don't know that sucks for them how many are there is it two or three uh there's two people up there that are trapped maybe there's more people up on the same shuttle they're on yeah yeah they're obviously supposed to be there for longer but yeah it, it's fucking crazy. That sucks.

That was pulling them down now, right? They decided to get SpaceX to go retrieve these guys. And it's I saw somebody post on Reddit, hey, Boeing is about to take a shot in their stock price. And because in the next eight hours, they're going to announce SpaceX is going to go get those astronauts and bring them back. And it happened, but it did not follow Boeing stock price. Interesting. Yeah, I would not care what manufacturer was coming to get me. No, it's not that it's that they failed. It's that they

failed in the end. They can't, they can't fix their failure. It is a big embarrassment to that company and the people, not the people who put the doors on planes, they got their own problems, but like the people who are in charge of... Yeah, what the fuck is going on with Boeing? It didn't move the stock price. I looked it up. It was already quite low, I'd imagine. People are saying they're having more issues with... Yeah, I saw the plane door thing. Now they're failing in space.

They need to get their shit together. They have not had a good year. They went from about 250 to 175. Yeah, that's rough stuff. Yeah, that's a big problem. Well, you don't want to leave people in space. That's some sci-fi shit. Yeah.

I haven't seen it, but there's this TV show with Hugh Lowry about like the first spaceship that's like a tourist thing and Is that not comedy? Yeah, yeah It's not her house and I think the idea is the spaceship is gonna go like out to Jupiter and back and it's supposed to take Like a couple months. It's like a cruise ship in space basically But it turns out and Hugh Lowry is like the hero, spaceman, captain that's the captain of it all. But it turns out there's an issue. They need to fix

something on the outside of the ship. So they send out Dave and Dave's the man. Dave can fix anything. He always seems to know what's up this guy Dave. I don't know what his rank is, but Dave knows what's up and they always go to Dave when something needs fixing. So they send him outside the ship and he gets killed. Something impales Dave and he's dead outside the ship. And now I can't fix it. And they go, they have to go to Hugh Lowry, space captain hero man. And like, sir, we're going to need you put the suit on. He's like, I'm an actor hired by Carnival Cruise to pray.

Space man captain. I've never been in space before in my life. I don't know what that button does. That Dave guy, that was captain Dave. Captain Dave, he knew all what all the buttons did. I like to imagine what the button he's pointing at is like on the coffee machine. Like it's not even a space related button.

That's the elevator, sir. Yeah, that's so funny. It's not even a space-related button. That's the elevator, sir. The only person who knows how to fly the ship or work on anything or fix anything fucking dies. Now it's just a bunch of idiots, including Jack Black, who's the trillionaire who bought the ship for everybody. It's like his private cruise that he's brought all these people along with. They keep trying all these little fixes to try to fix things.

And people are dying as well. And at one point they try to eject the dead bodies out. It was like half a dozen or so, but they don't eject them hard enough. So they go. They start rotating around the ship. So when you look out the window, there are body bags rotating around the ship all the time. And then like the next episode next episode something else happens and Sewage gets blasted out in the space and it starts rotating around

So now they're flying through this through space with like shit and bodies Rotating around the windows. There's nothing with shit and bodies. It's great So it's a rough time up. What would happen if you like just pushed a body bag out of a space or into space? It would just keep going and going and going. Yeah, like it wouldn't rotate around your craft like it was a planet. Like you would just have to push it and then it would just zoot away forever. Yeah, yeah. It's a comedy show more than a space show. That sounds interesting. I haven't even heard of it. No, I don't remember what it's called.

I just saw one of those heavy spoilers YouTube channels that just goes through the whole thing. And then this happens. And then that happens. Oh, yes. I've seen those. I'm not sure if they're made by AI or not, but you can watch an entire movie in like 18 minutes. They kind of remove all the entertainment value, but they don't leave out any details of what happened. And if you're like curious about a plot, it's like, all right, I'm sucked in.

What happens next? It's pretty good. Do you know the name of the channel, Kyle? I don't. There's a couple of them that do it probably. Heavy Spoilers is one, but I don't there's a couple of them that do it probably heavy spoilers is one But I don't think that's it. I think that does it there are a eyes open so many AI videos now Yeah, have you seen the new like they take like they do like the 50s or 70s

Panavision of a modern movie and it's all AI characters like they do the Terminator Robo. Yeah. Yeah, I saw Lord of the Rings Yeah, and it makes all the ladies like really busty. They like show me. It's like three minutes of like clips from the movie, but AI has interpreted it in its own way. So you get like the Terminator looks like a mix between Elvis and Arnold Schwarzenegger. He's like all, he's like 50s, like leather and motorcycle

and stuff with the Elvis air and shit. RoboCop, Murphy is like just big old titties and it's good. Yeah, like I saw someone post that on Twitter. That was like like show the Lord of the Rings trailer, but in the style of like a 1983 film and then AI will make an entire trailer of Lord of the Rings that looks like a film from 1983. It's crazy. It's so cool. I almost want to use it as just animation. Just make a cartoon using that. Do the whole thing. I'd watch it. It would look weird because there are still parts where you can finger. There's too many fingers faces like as they're turning their head like

like mold or melt or they don't smoke correctly. Yeah. But either way, have you seen those AI videos that are almost like, like compute, like stream of consciousness style? No, I don't think so. But where let me find one. And like it, it'll just start with like a normal photo and it goes bananas. And like, you can see the AI,

like trying to take patterns and create things out of it. So like Zach, you can probably play this actually. It's not like we're gonna get copyright struck, but Wow. But like, it'll just start with like some guy working in a shop and then it tries to make sense of what it's seeing there, but it won't make perfect sense of it.

Oh, I've seen that. These are cool. Yeah. So then it'll turn it into like a bird But they're still in a shop. So it like tries to turn it back into a person again Like everything in the back doesn't make sense it's like a dream Yeah, it is like a dream like what the fuck like there's so many of these type of AI videos that it feels like they're not Saying like hey make this super trippy. It's like this this is just what it's doing. See me. That's so interesting. It's so weird. It's very much like,

would you watch more than one of these though? Like, yeah, yeah, I want to see what it's yeah, I tried to find more because I'm like, this is so curious. Yeah, you were you just turned it away. He was about to turn into a rocket. And then a whole space thing began. He went to space and became a game of became. Now I'm into that. I like that. It's pretty cool. I just I want to know why it's doing it that way. I'm fascinated with the AI that they're using in video games for like enemies. I want that to get dramatically better. Like like Tarkov is actually in a good place right now

where I find them to be difficult and scary at times. The right level of difficulty. Yeah, mostly. I could deal with harder. Like, like I like hard. The more I'm failing, the better it is for me. But there's a point, you know, you build a ring another go. Fuck that.

Yeah, you gotta we gotta have a win sometime. I'm getting on. So I beat the hardest boss in Elden Ring. I hopped in today thinking I would wrap up the game. It was such a frustrating day. One, I fought like four dragons. They're my least favorite kind of enemy. Um I it you can't see what's happening. You're just smacking at their toes while they're doing something above you. And they, some of them rain down lightning.

Some of them blows fire. Some of them blow blue fire. Some of them blow like electricity and they, they flap their arms and your character just moves, moves, moves, falls off the island. And I'm like, fuck! Like it looks like I got killed in five shots, but I didn't control

my character after the first one. I just watched him stagger and move, stagger and move and basically got one-shotted and I'm like, what is the defense to this? If my controller doesn't do anything while I'm dying, how do I defend it? And you know, you eventually get it because I can do something the dragons can't, which is respawn. And enough tries and I'll knock them down. Also, something like apocalyptic happened and now the entire town is like floating in a tornado. So listen to tornado sounds for eight hours today and see if that's a fun gaming experience for you

while you fight dragons in tornadoes. And I'm just like, enough of this. I want to win. And let you know fight in the field I can't believe you're forced to play video games for a did you ever like To pace around like get a water or soda or something You're like, I think I want to be done for the day and then like two seconds later You're like that one more try one more time. I think I'm getting it I took a lunch break and eight hours is exaggeration was six, but

It I thought I'd be done today. I think I'll be done soon. Don't you have all the DLC to go through? I haven't bought it yet, but I think that is the, there's two ways I could go. I can either do like prestige basically and play it again, or I can do the DLC and I don't know. Oh, I would have to do the DLC. Everybody talks that DLC up so much and about how the difficulty also goes up There's theories on that. I'll let you know what I think there aren't many people

Who started like just now and went straight to the DLC? most people spent two years getting really really good at the base game and Then the DLC comes and they forgot how hard the base game the first time they played it was so there's a theory that it's the own a normal progression of difficulty But it just feels really hard because you got so good and you learned all the movesets existing bosses I'll let you know if I think it's That Wukong Monkey King game looks interesting. Yeah, that looks pretty good I've heard somebody talk about they said it's like the the anti woke version of like

Baldur's Gate Elden Ring something like that, but I don't know what the gameplay loop is going to look like I it looked a lot like God of War in parts to us I thought with the this, you know the the spinning and the fire blades and shit But also at times it looked like Elden Ring to me with big bosses and it looks like it's drawn from Chinese mythology, folklore, cultural stuff. And I am not familiar with any of it. You show me like, I don't know, a European mythological thing and I'm like,

ah, okay, that's this or Greek or Roman arena. That's a Cyclops, okay. Or I don't know what those monsters were. There were all sorts of weird fucking creepy things Okay, that's this or Greek or Roman arena. That's a Cyclops. Okay, or I don't know what those monsters were there were all sorts of weird fucking creepy things coming out of everywhere That's what makes me more intrigued by it is I like that. I like the mythological world It's interesting and cool and I know nothing of the Chinese shit and so everything would be new to me I'm tired of big bosses. I'm getting a little worn out. I like fighting-sized things and that doesn't mean either the hardest boss in the game is people-sized But like there's a huge thing. He must be 200 feet tall

He's so easy to beat I fight him when I want to test the new weapons and like see how hard they hit and shit He's so slow moving. It's not a problem But I it can be frustrating to not really see what the enemy is doing when I look straight up I don't really get what's happening and there's the the next game I'm really kind of hyped about is space marine to okay it you're you're a space marine from Warhammer 40k and I think you can play co-op and you're you're on a planet full of just nightmares and there's a war going on third person you know you're in control of a space Marine. There's different classes.

So I'm sure some of them have giant chains, chainsaws, chainsaw arms or whatever, and all sorts of weaponry and flamethrowers and machine guns and bolters and missile launchers and shit. But you're huge. So you can you could probably tear things apart with your bare hands and stomp things I saw big the graphics look really good. There's big swarms and swarms of enemies. It's a story. It's a campaign like narrative story game Neat I don't know if I play a big story RPG game that

Wukong Monkey King or whatever that's called is that seems cool. I've heard it's not as hard as Elden Ring, which might be fun. Yeah, I hope it's not as hard as Elden Ring. And just based on the trailer, it looks like your character can be a million things. And so hopefully there'd be a ton of different classes, a ton of different. I only want to be a monkey man. I don't know. That monkey man is cool as shit But like I wish those existed first of all the rest of us look be looking a lot better in the grand scheme of things

but I Just wish there was some monkey men around. I thought that was a cool-ass character It was this weird blend of man and monkey and you can imagine where he would be rather athletic He is he is cool, but I would hope it's the kind of game where it's like, oh, this playthrough, I'm going to be the melee combat Monkey King. Oh, that's just like Skyrim. The next time I can be like, I'm going to be the lizard wizard or whatever the fuck other options they have in Chinese mythology. Is spell casting slow in Skyrim?

No. Okay. Or the really powerful ones are like the like mass paralysis. There's a couple area of effect spells where he has to do like a little dance beforehand and then cast it. But the like individual spells you just shoot them out. I don't do much spell casting in Elden Ring, but that's the criticism from people who do that. Like the what they call a punish window. You know, the characters may be swung his sword and he's like waiting a second

Here's your opportunity to strike That opportunity is smaller than it takes to cast a spell and it frustrates people. Yeah, that kind of sucks Yeah, come think of it most of the parts i've seen of Elden ring and melee. Yeah Yeah, you almost never see anybody shoot a bow or do anything like that It's just they've got a big fucking stick They're hitting the thing where I didn't even know bows were in that game. I don't know Small bows big bows giant bows crossbows

It's got plenty of both more useless than the last I like those and shooters Like I wish Tarkov would add a fucking crossbow that I could because I want to see. I always like stealthy, right? Like what if you were to really go into an encampment, like just guarded by 10 scabs and the crossbows who let you Darrell Dixon your way in? I would like that. I would like that a lot. The scabs right now, it's I don't know. It's like they know when you've got a heavy bleed, like when you're hurt and they push so hard, like like four of the, you can hear their feet.

I'm like, Oh shit, they're coming. This column I've been hiding behind, like, like James Bond, this ain't going to work. I got to fall back to a truck or something big and concrete to hide behind. Cause there's four guys sprinting to try to beat me up with their bare hands. If they have to, uh, I've been having a really good time. I'm level 50 now. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a good game. When you're when you don't have cheaters or people hiding in corners, they added tripwires to the game. And I've been watching I watched people play PvP dark off because that's more entertaining to watch. They

had a tripwires. And so Pastilli is talking to this guy factory factories very different now. And he's like, Yeah, yeah, you just go in that window there. Yes, go on there. Yeah, right there on the table. That's what you need. And the guy like crawls through the window when you hear click. Boom. He goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey There's no way to get away from in a room you're just you're just dead can you see it In the outside you can see it pretty easily like like I'm scanning all the time for them

You can also see it with thermal sights, but indoors if you're if you're sort of like I can labs You know, can I put one in labs maybe by the elevator? Oh Well, you would you probably you could yeah, you can put them anywhere you want I like I think five of you can have a better time they the last ten minutes and they go away But they can be diffused if the person sees them and I think they can be the wire can be shot in two I haven't done that before but I mostly just sprint through them Unless she if they that works the fuse is however long the grenades fuse is so in PvP People are using like the really short fused grenade

Yeah, one and a half seconds or two seconds stuff like that or impact grenades even but but in in PvE They use f1 grenades and it's like a four second fuse So I just sprint all the way through it and keep going and I'm usually okay. Mm-hmm I'm reading this Wikipedia for Wukong, the monkey king, to learn his powers. This guy is pretty tough. Son Wukong possesses many abilities. He has amazing strength and is able to support the weight of two heaven mountains on his shoulders while running with the speed of a meteor.

He is extremely fast, able to travel 108,000 li or 54,000 kilometers, 34,000 miles in one somersault. He has vast memorization skills. I'm reading exactly what's written. He has vast memorization skills and can remember every monkey ever born. As king of the monkeys, it is his duty to keep track of and protect every monkey. Like this guy more and more whoo Kong acquires the 72 earthly transformations which allow him to access 72 unique powers Including the ability to transform into animals and objects

He's a skilled fighter capable of defeating the best warriors of heaven His hair has magical properties capable of making copies of himself or transforming into various weapons animals and other things He has weather manipulation skills and can freeze people in place and become invisible what this guy's so op right invisible is a huge power in video they said he can freeze people in place 34 000 miles in a single somersault he's not even he's not even running oh that you're not you're right that's not even running. Oh, you're right. That's not even an hour. That's just 34,000 miles in a somersault. At once. Like sort of instantly. Here I am and there I go around the world and a half. That's around the world one and a half times almost. He rebelled against heaven. So he's in a battle against... Oh, it's three? Which heaven? Yeah, one and a half. Well, that

sounds a little overpowered yeah i hope he can't do this is that now is that chinese mythology or is that like the game's lore no this is the chinese mythology part okay so they'll nerf them a little bit in the game's lore i'm sure although i think that does give us a window into why we saw those different forms that you were controlling in the gameplay because yeah it's not like you're just playing as a rock man this time. He has transformed into a rock man because maybe it was beneficial against the ice man he was fighting or some shit. No, it looks that the game was cool.

It's like you said, it's mythology. I don't know. We've rehashed the Greek and Roman stuff and really everything so many times that I'm into it. I'm into that a lot I just need to see the gameplay. I need to you know, the trailers always look cool I need to see somebody play for five minutes and see what like what am I going to be doing? For hours and hours at a time Will I be running in a field in between looking for all the white flower blossoms like are there quests or there is out?

It is currently out, right? Or maybe just- All right, I'm gonna get on Twitch later. I'm gonna Twitch later, watch somebody play, see what I think of it. I might jump into that game. I think I've benefited in my Elden Ring playthrough a lot by the fact that the game's two years old.

Like every time I have a question, somebody else already asked it on Reddit. In the game, you can leave notes to other players on the ground. And some of the notes are really helpful, like strong foe ahead. Oh shit, well, I better like drink this and get my extra muscles on like Popeye.

And some of the notes are like, right in front of a blank wall, try gesturing. And there are parts in the game where like, I don't know, you have your character flex or like go crucify style or something and the wall will open up or the statue will respond or tell you something. And I'm like, what gesture?

And everyone on Reddit is, you know, all right, that's a joke. You fell for that one. That one, so nothing happens there. I'm like, thank you, someone who was here before me. Cause the notes can be troll. Then you left and they're like, he believed it guy. He didn't look, he believed it guys.

He didn't look behind the waterfall. I know, all he had to do was the cry. All he had to do was the cry. Someone will be like, precious item ahead. And then behind that, liar ahead. And I'm like, you're busted. So anyone can just leave tricky notes? Well, there are pre-written phrases that you can choose.

And so you can't just write like your favorite Nazi slogan, but there are some that go together, like try fingers, fingers, I don't even understand all the lore with fingers in this game, but like you can use fingers to summon someone like a come hither, like I did three fingers and I guess I destroyed the world and accepted some curse. I don't know.

But so try fingers is one of the things you can write. And then another might be like, be careful. They're like treasure ahead, but whole. So there are so many messages in this game that say, try fingers, but whole. Everywhere. And most of them are not helpful. fingers, but whole everywhere. On it. And most of them are helpful. Yeah.

Yeah. Baldur's gates, the, is, is my number one game of all time. I think these days, like, like I've never had that much fun playing a game. I could go back and play that again. I could play it, monitor, unmodded. That's a wonderful gaming experience. That's all time better than the COD's better.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because like maybe I had fun playing those and they like maybe had more fun in some ways playing those or or a greater amount of fun because I played them for so long. But this is the best made game I've ever played. Baldur's Gate three. It's so good. It's so ahead of everything else that I think that Elder Scrolls 6 has been in development since I don't know forever. I think they're in trouble I think they saw Baldur's Gate and they're like, oh no This is what the cutting edge for RPGs is. Oh No, like I think they're still doing that bar menu interaction system where the person stands. Like, I don't think they're going to innovate at all. I think it's going to be

a Bethesda game. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's going to be Fallout again. It's going to be another one of those Bethesda copy paste your interaction nonsense in your special system. And I think it's going to fall flat. The Fall of the Gate. Great game. Great fucking game. You know what has me interested? The next Grand Theft Auto. I haven't played Grand Theft Auto in a while. I've skipped like two of them or something. But the last one was such a huge undertaking

and I bet they bet big on the next Grand Theft Auto. It's gonna be another quarter billion dollar game or better. You saw that black woman's ass. It looked real. Oh yeah. Jiggly. So jiggly. Jiggly cellulite technology. It was.

Yeah. And I'll just say, I don't know. It's like the movie that comes after Endgame. It's supposed to be even better, but how can it be? Because they spent a decade developing and learning and, and learning from, uh, from their other hit games. They've never had a miss. We talked about this, uh, before, you know, with Rockstar, not all the GTA games

and then the, uh, what's the cowboy game? I'm Red Dead Redemption. Red Dead. You know, they're, they're fucking, they, they hit, they hit home runs. They, uh, they, they, they get A's in school. They're, they're going to win this thing. I'm excited for it too. I hope you all both play it. We could play some online. We could rock some stuff. Yeah. I see people

role-playing in that game. It's a little much for me, the role-playing. They'll be like pretending like it's the real life. Come on, S.D. Come on, S.D. Oh, not just that. They'll be like, yeah, I lost another street race. I'm damn bad. I don't win this next one. I got to sell old Betsy here. It's like, not to mention it's almost bedtime. Mom burnt the pizza. She forgot my dino nuggies in the oven and they burned. I ordered dino nuggies the other day when I when I got my groceries, I was like,

how were they? Yeah. So fucking horrible. Really? Dude, I like just like Tyson, the best brand that they had. I even thought I was like, let's let's let's not get the shittiest brand of dino nuggies. Let's try to get some good ones so they actually taste good. I kind of want like a laugh when I, you know, and some chicken, you know? So I cooked them up, you put them, you bake them,

you know, you put them on a pan. They were so rubbery and had such a weird texture, like not a chicken texture, like, like, like a- It was like grade school chicken, like school. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad processed, disgusting baked chicken shaped somewhat like stegosaurus is and brontosaurus is I gave it to the dogs They fucking loved it. They fucking loved it. How many different many how many unique dinosaurs? I

Noticed two or three, but I only ate one nugget Stegosaurus down before Toby was munching. Yeah. Yeah pretty much I ate the tail and I knew this wasn't gonna go well Taylor what's your favorite dinosaur? Oh I Mean to be cliche probably just the t-rex. I knew you'd have a favorite dinosaur. Yeah. Yeah, I do It used to be velociraptor when I was a young kid Uh-huh, and they're very cool But it would act I'd have to pick not the velociraptor

But whatever the because you said there were Raptor looking things Kyle that were much bigger So whatever that thing was because the actual velociraptors are like chicken sized little Rex Raptor looking that he is but he's big But you were looking for a bigger Velociraptor. I was like, I originally like- T-Rex has unusable arms. The Velociraptor has these, has these talons he can reach out with. But you remember in Jurassic Park-

Oh no, he doesn't have them. The Raptors in Jurassic Park were super cool. And I was like, oh, those are my guys. Those guys plus T-Rex was my favorite. Maybe even the Raptors over it. But then people would say like, oh, but that's not what a velociraptor would be. Velociraptors were very little.

Like chicken sized, right? Some like bullshit. You could take a velociraptor. You could take it right in the fucking head. Yeah, you could kick it like a football. Yeah, a Velociraptor. Where the coach is frustrated at me. And I'm like, coach, you picked me to be the kicker.

I'm like, I didn't pick you up for this position. I'm not here. My parents are making me. My favorite dinosaur is the Dilophosaurus. That's the one that in Jurassic Park anyway. It's the one with the frilled neck thing that goes oh yeah yeah and like spits in Newman's face. Oh it fucks up Newman. Yep that thing scared me That I have a favorite too. The triceratops. It's like a rhinoceros, but it has three rhino horns that come towards the front and it has a really, are you pulling my leg? You don't know the triceratops. Yeah. And it has a, like a, it almost wears a helmet. Like it has a neck protection that comes off its neck.

It might be the most famous dinosaur. Yeah. Those are the most famous dinosaur. Yeah, those are the most famous time. Yeah, maybe so. But like the defensive oriented dinosaurs. I think I like triceratops more than Stegosaurus. Hmm.

Stegosaurus has the cool tail that you can smash, smash into things. But what about the one that's got more of an armor plate? This is also like a defensive like herbivore dinosaur, but on the end of its tail it had like two big like bony structures. Isn't that a Stegosaurus? No, no, no, no. Stegosaurus has spikes. It has like this spike tail, like almost like a mace.

But this other dinosaur had like heavy bony structures back there that were rounded. More like a, I don't know, like what it would be like. But I remember that dinosaur seeing it and thinking that was pretty fucking nifty. I saw this meme. Look at that, there he is. When a kid turns six years old, he has to choose amongst these personalities.

And it's like Dungeons and Dragons, Tonka trucks, dinosaurs dinosaurs and construction equipment, maybe something like that. What was your childhood thing? What were you into? Dinosaur. Like I was obsessed with dinosaurs as a young kid for a long time. I had my I had books that my parents would get me like encyclopedias of dinosaurs. And I would just read all the different fun facts about dinosaurs and sometimes silently bemoan that I lived in a time with no dinosaurs.

So, yeah, I loved dinosaurs. It was not a truck for fun, but that was, I think, at a much younger age. You ever tempted by any of the big cryptids that are supposedly leftover dinosaurs the I would have been if I had had any knowledge of that at the time I would have thought that was that would have given me like a hope of like no there still could be dinosaurs But I had no idea what the cryptid was when I was five. Yeah, I still have no idea What is a cryptid? It's an animal that they think it it could be two things actually it could be an it could be a mythological thing that nobody believes

ever existed or it could be a long something that's believed to be long extinct but still exists. They find cryptids fairly rare, fairly often. Or at least the ones that they or at least they find the creatures that they thought were extinct. But here's one or they find they even find some that like they found fossils that they found fish they knew from the fossil record. They're like, holy shit, um, they thought were fossils. They, they found fish that they knew from the fossil, um, record. And they're like, Holy shit, here's a live one. Here's a live one from the fossil. But, um, but, um, Loch Ness monster is one of them.

And then I think in the Amazon, they're supposed to be like, uh, it looks like a miniature Brontosaurus type creature, supposedly that, yeah. What are there's a lot of cool deep water fish that we're not missing out on for enjoying. There's so much weird shit down there. There's the ocean still fucking big. We don't know so many cool things living in there. There could be.

But where light doesn't hit things, there's limited growth. You know, there's limited life. Did I say life? When light doesn't hit things, there's limited life. There was a, I wish I could. But every time they go down there. Cause they, I remember like even watching those things as a kid where they'd be like, and it's postulated that life could not be at this depth. And then it would like pan down lower and he'd,

then he would like do his little transition where he's like, but mother nature, as is so often the case surprises us. And then the fucking like fish swims on screen. It's got the horrible maw. And they're like, wow, that's cool. The anglerfish. We didn't know that was a thing for so long. Just that anglerfish.

If you just showed someone a picture of that in the year 1100, they'd be like, It looks like an alien. Get the hell out of here. That's not a thing. Oh, it has a glowing bait on a string that it hang. What is this? Tom and Jerry, motherfucker? No, that's not real.

That's what they'd say at 1100. Nonsense. That's what they're saying. This is like a cartoon I watch at the 70s. This is like a cartoon that will happen in a million years. The stuff that's down there is so alien to us. Some of it is, so different. Like I'm thinking of those semi-transparent

globulus creatures that just radiate light and rings out from their center and you don't know what the front bottom top or bottom you're like where's the head? Yeah it's like a biblical angel you don't know what you're looking at. Yeah just looking at like a floaty lighty thing. They're always unattractive and I'm aware when you bring them to the surface the shape changes Yeah, just looking at like a floaty, lighty thing. They're always unattractive. And I'm aware when you bring them to the surface, the shape changes, but even their original shape, there aren't many deep water ornamental fish.

No, hideous. Pinkwood fish are disgusting. Like those giant thin teeth that don't fit in their mouth right. Well, I could talk about animals all day, but we do have a hangout that I just- I need a quick bite before- You gotta get to it.