Painkiller Already - PKN #55

Episode Date: September 17, 2015

This week's PKN, is recorded with Woody, Kyle & Chiz all in person together, at their base camp for the Survival Trip!...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, this is PKN, episode 56? 5? 4? 55. 55? Yeah. Alright, survival edition. I think the bugs are going after me, because I'm... The juiciest. I have deodorant on and you have a natural repellent.
Starting point is 00:00:21 The juiciest. I didn't spray any bug spray on me after I took my old bath in the creek. I just did now. I think it's helping. I don't see any bugs anyway, any mosquitoes anyway. There's a few wasps. There's plenty of wasps.
Starting point is 00:00:34 And unfortunately, that does not have wasp deterrent in it. It doesn't seem to. A shoe is the only deterrent. Chiz has never been stung by a bee or a wasp or anything. He was afraid of those earlier. Why? One came at him. Well, because, all right, there's a giant black hornet or whatever.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Look, there it is. There it is. Red Chiz front. It's the same color when it's moving fast as the giant fucking wasp, all right? I thought it was going to, like, land on his finger like he's Snoke White or something. He's just like, ah! My wife is having a problem right now with me being gone. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:01:11 There is a, I thought she said a racist murderer, but I think it's actually a rapist murderer. Much worse. I was like, he's a racist murderer? What color is he? Because maybe if he's white, she's cool, right? Uh-huh. If there's a racist murderer and it's a white guy,
Starting point is 00:01:26 he'll probably look at our family and be like, holy shit, you're whiter than me. Yeah. But, uh, but rapist murderer. He raped a 15-year-old girl. Dude, this guy's on a rampage.
Starting point is 00:01:37 You know what? Is he on a raping rampage? Because, like... Your phone's in the tent. All right, I'll get it. I'll get it. Hold on. Like, is he going out and aggressively, like, like, like, multiple rapes?
Starting point is 00:01:47 I've never heard of a raping rampage before. Dude, let me read this story to you. I looked it up on... We have one bar, so I don't know if I'll make it through the trip. I may have to come home early and solve my Reddit addiction. I love that. Here it is. Here it is.
Starting point is 00:02:01 All right. Raleigh police are searching for a 21-year-old man Tuesday, today, who's been charged in connection with two shootings, one of which was fatal, and a rape that were reported Monday in East Raleigh, which is where we live. Kendrick Cagnotti Gregory is charged with murder, two counts of robbery with a dangerous weapon,
Starting point is 00:02:23 assault with a deadly weapon, with intent to kill, inflecting serious injury and first degree rape. Police said the morning that Gregory was released from Wake County Jail on August 25th. This fucker's been free for like three days. A little more than that, like five days. And he's on a rampage already. They believe Gregory may have stolen a white Toyota Corolla. Of course he'd steal a white car. Uh-huh. And the car was taken early from Greywood Drive, whatever, whatever. Let's see. He shot and killed a 64-year-old at 7 p.m. at Mr. Pond. Why? On Capitol Boulevard. Capitol Boulevard is where the Greyhound station is. Yeah, that's where the Greyhound station is.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Capital Boulevard is where the Greyhound station is. Yeah, that's where the Greyhound station is. Shortly after the shooting, he raped a 15-year-old girl before stealing a blue BMW in the Brentwood neighborhood. Moving on up. Yeah, right? The vehicle was later found abandoned in the area, prompting police to urge residents to stay inside their homes. That's where we live.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Wow. I want to just fly through the rest of this another armed robbery at 9 30 at some food store shots were fired by a man fitting his description the police haven't charged him nobody was injured he's also charged with robbing and shooting a 27 year old on new burn avenue which is not far from where we were. We drove past. It's between where we live and Capitol. Authorities say he approached Alvaregana, whatever, from behind outside a hotel, shot him in the back, and robbed him of his cash. He was taken to Wake Med following the shooting.
Starting point is 00:03:59 We don't know if that guy died yet. He left the hotel in the Beamer, went to Brentwood. He's been arrested eight times since September 2013 on charges including misdemeanor larceny, trespassing, and breaking an entry. So this guy... So rape and murder is new for him. Rape and murder is a step up, but breaking an entry is not new for him. And I don't know what misdemeanor larceny he is probably some stealing and trespassing
Starting point is 00:04:26 so yeah jackie you know what she keeps saying she misses jack jack our murderous dog with like you know you're like oh there's a rapist murderer in the neighborhood jack is like this is what we train for Bring that shit to me! Woof, woof, woof. Yeah. You would scare away just about anyone you threw at them. It is. Our little dog is, what, 65 pounds, something like that? The two big ones must be 100-ish and growing.
Starting point is 00:05:00 I don't know. They're not ferocious like Jack was. Jack literally daydreamed of killing people and shit. Yeah, that was a dangerous dog. But I guess they'd help somewhat. I don't know. Big dogs. Loud noises. Deterrent. Yeah. Hopefully he'd spot the guy coming in, give Jackie time to get a gun. I mean, if I was a criminal like that, I don't think I'd be hiking up the two-minute walk driveway to the house I'm gonna break into, you know. I think...
Starting point is 00:05:26 No. Depends on his motivations. Like... Well, it just seems like a really stupid thing to do. You know, you're literally exposed as you walk up to this one house on so much land. Like, you know, he's hitting those suburbs near you, if anything. Those lesser class people with the public pool. Is that white trash?
Starting point is 00:05:50 So that's a thing. We got Jackie at home scared and giving her instructions on how to find the gun and use it and such. Rapist, murderer on the loose. I'm here in the woods hungry. I've eaten, I caught two crawfish. At first Chiz was going to eat one and then he saw it and changed his mind so Kyle volunteered. Then
Starting point is 00:06:11 I saw it and I also changed my mind. So I ate them both. It's a good thing you did. I swear, I think there's more meat on a thumb. Yeah. I think there might be more meat on a pinky. There really wasn't much food there. I haven't even seen a fish. Well I haven't seen a food fish. There's a million like one inch fish. Like minnows. Yeah, guppies or something. I thought maybe last night there'd be like fertile frogs.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Like they'd just be everywhere ribbiting and you shine a light on them and just grab them. But that doesn't seem to be the reality. I don't know why there's no frogs here. I think bullfrogs live in larger bodies of water. Maybe we could find one. I don't know. Like, the walk back in Uari, there were a million of those things. We saw, like, seven or eight.
Starting point is 00:06:56 Those were toads. He has some weird thing where toads are different than frogs when it comes to eating them. I don't know if it's weird or not. Like, I'd cook a toad leg and see what's up. Like, they're not poisonous, so why couldn't you eat it? This is our best survival tool. You could eat it, but you would burn more tools acquiring a toad's leg than you would eating a toad's leg.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Whereas with a bullfrog, there's a lot of muscle on its legs, and it's actually like a little chicken wing almost. Okay. That's the difference. I don't have any service. I was going to ask Siri if you could like a little chicken wing almost. Okay. That's the difference. I don't have any service. I was going to ask Siri if you could eat a toad's leg, but, oh, oh. Can you eat a toad's leg? Here's what I found on the web for can you eat a toad's leg.
Starting point is 00:07:44 Um. Here we go. We're going to know soon. his leg. Here we go. We're going to know soon. I've got one bar. Oh, shit. It's not helping. He put it in the Yahoo questions part under trying to conceive, so the answer is what the hell does this have to do with
Starting point is 00:08:05 conception bastards fuck you can eat a toad um and it's better than nothing especially if you got like 10 of them i i think i mean you saw that to. If you ate the entire toad, it's about the size of four peanuts. What toad? The toad that you wanted me to stab the other day. That thing was the size of, like, the end of my thumb. The whole animal. Could have been bait. Bait for what?
Starting point is 00:08:37 We've got bait. It could have been bait. For what? More things. Just like a lot of people said that we should eat the crawfish and use the parts you don't eat for bait too. Yeah, but, oh, I hate those people with their fucking suggestions. They don't know anything about the scenario we're actually in. My father is a serious angler and I'm going to let you know right now, your gear is completely inadequate for catfish.
Starting point is 00:09:01 It's like, no it's not. You're just an asshole. You don't know anything about anything. Like, you could use string to catch a catfish. It's like, no, it's not. You're just an asshole. You don't know anything about anything. Like, you could use string to catch a catfish. No, it's not ideal, but, like, we're not in a giant lake or pond with 15-pound catfish. You don't need 10- or 20-pound test. We're set up fine.
Starting point is 00:09:15 There's just no fucking fish to eat. No, really, anything to eat. No fucking, uh, squirrels. It's a dick. I've walked this place. I've walked miles and miles in this place. I went out this morning for a couple hours. I didn't see a single squirrel.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Yeah, you did. I saw a woodpecker yesterday. But, yeah, I saw the guy. I guess we should tell that little story quickly. Basically, I was driving along. I wanted to go. I went back to the car, and I drove to the other end of this place where I have seen squirrels and got out there and started
Starting point is 00:09:45 hunting then but before I got there I met this truck in the road and there was this old Vietnam vet like I don't know it must have been 70s and he just holds out a box of cookies out of his window into my window and I'm like are these for sale he's like no no I'm giving them away like my wife I come around here and give them all the boys at at the campsite. And I'm just like, oh, okay, well, thank you. I was like, the rest of the guys will appreciate this. He's like, oh, well, here, take these two. And he gave me, like, a huge box of muffins. And I'm like, yeah, these are great.
Starting point is 00:10:13 And he's like, here, take three. And he, like, gave me another big box of cookies. So I've got 36 cookies, like 40 muffins. And so I text everybody. I'm like, hey, this guy just gave me cookies. It was weird. And she's like, bring them back. I'm not bringing those cookies back.
Starting point is 00:10:27 That seems silly to bring cookies back. There was a question about whether or not cookies given to you by a local mountain man is gathering. And I would say it is. Just like if we found an estranged animal in the woods. Well, I know a local mountain woman who will bring us Domino's pizza tonight and local mountain woman and you know it she has mountain dew and and and pizza but this man is indigenous to the region he lives here okay lives here Florida well I'm indigenous to the region like that's nothing to do with not. It's where we are.
Starting point is 00:11:05 But you didn't bring any cookies. Look, you want those fucking cookies. You hike your ass right over that way. I wouldn't have to if someone was smart. What was I going to say? Not bringing the cookies. Oh, oh, oh. Chiz made a good point that perhaps these cookies are a gift from God.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Like, could there be a more clear sign than an old man with cookies and muffins showing up out of nowhere and handing us food it's true like so many religious people are like i'm waiting for a sign from god to do this or that it's like he gave you a sign it was that public transportation right there or the man with cookies like he doesn't come down with lightning bolts and shit like there's apparent things in front of you from time to time and they're gifts from yeah that sounds like an old joke i knew when I was a little kid. Like, I think I heard it at church.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It was like, you know, there's a guy drowning and the boat comes to save him. He's like, no, no. Yeah, no, no. God's coming to save me, the helicopter. No, no, God's coming to save me. Finally, he drowns. He goes to heaven. He's like, what gives?
Starting point is 00:11:57 You promised you'd come and save me. He's like, well, I said two boats and a helicopter. No, get it away. Don't move and it won't stay in. Now it might. Oh my god! Is it? It's under your knee. Right there.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Kill it. I think it's done. Finish it! That's not one of those weird horse flies that pretends to be a wasp either that was a legitimate one fucking ass a big-ass yellow jacket I was trying to be so delicate like like I knew Chiz was terrifying made a great mistake you're want to talk about big mistakes? Coming here. That's what he was talking about. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah, this has been pretty intense. Last night I really did miss my bed, miss my shower, miss my girlfriend, miss my... Thank God for these hammocks. If I was sleeping on the ground in the chiggers... Yeah, I'm glad we're not sleeping on the ground. Thanks to Battle Box for sending along some hammocks, apparently. Every time I open these boxes, it's like, thank God. We're pretty well prepared, but they didn't send us... They actually gave us water, which you lazy fucks used the first night.
Starting point is 00:13:18 We're like 100 feet from a creek with a filter. And they're like, I need some water. They're drinking the package i don't know why we're using a plural tense here uh there was no they it was this gentleman right here he cracked open had some too well patrick was thirsty there's like 50 pounds of water we're not just going to carry it out with us let's be real i thought there was like eight little miniature packets no it was like that whole box was water. That filtered water tastes pretty good.
Starting point is 00:13:48 You said it tastes like pond water, and I believe you. Yeah, no, it tastes good. It tastes good. Yeah, either I've acquired a taste for it or my first one was different. I don't know, but I'm pretty fine with the water. Did you clean your bottle out before you? Actually, we did, yeah. We cleaned it carefully. Some of my bottles hadn't been used in a long time.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Yeah, I didn't clean that one at all. It's brand new. That's probably not a good idea. You're going to die. I'll be all right. You're going to get plastic. Preservatives in there. Keep me safe.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Fuck Nalgene. Fuck Nalgene. Fuck Nalgene. Let's tell that story. I think we've told it. Yeah, we've just promoted them forever for free. And we finally got in contact with them. And they were basically just dicks.
Starting point is 00:14:25 They were like... what did they say? It was something about hard economic times or something? At first they were doing like a hand... No, that was Maglite who said that. Oh, that's who I'm thinking of. Yeah, Nalgene were just dicks, like just cold dicks. But Maglite were like, we would love to help if we can in these tough, like just cold dicks. But Maglite, we're like, we would love to help
Starting point is 00:14:45 what we can in these tough, trying economic times right now. You need to update that fucking auto message. It's not 2008 anymore. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:14:54 Fucking trying economic times? Maybe we should kick a few bucks over to Maglite and help them out. That would be funny. You should send a check and a whole note like,
Starting point is 00:15:02 we heard about your tough economic times. We all got a few, went around the like, we heard about your tough economic times. Here's a donation from us. We all got a few, went around the office, we got you a little money together. That'd be fun, like send them $8.14 or something. Yeah, right? Maglite maybe is struggling because I feel like Maglite really, like they made their name on really durable, like 18-inch long lights with one bulb in the front. 18-inch long lights with one bulb in the front now I think it's in my hammock, but like I've got better flashlights that run off a single a battery with LED tech. Yeah
Starting point is 00:15:32 Doesn't mag light have like an LED line though They so they're they have one that's in the same form factor with an LED and I'm like This is the worst thing in the world like it. It's just not it's not as bright as the little $45 yeah, what I want out of Maglite is the LED brightness, but now I've got four batteries powering it. I want my Maglite like this to just melt the... It should be like a police spotlight. It should melt ice.
Starting point is 00:16:00 Yeah, yeah. It should have a laser built into it or something. I have the world's brightest flashlight at home. I got it from wickedlasers.com. It'll start a fire. It's so bright. Is it a beam of light? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:14 It's like a little flashlight about this long. It uses a special rechargeable battery. And turn that thing on, put it against newspaper, it'll light it up. Now, you brought one to a paintball event once that was a laser that started fire. Was that it? No, this is a flashlight. Same company. Yeah, I didn't know if they were billing their laser as a flashlight or something.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Nope. No. Lasers are cool. Yeah, those lasers are cool. I don't know where mine is. Would have been useful out here. I haven't seen any. You know, like, in my head, this
Starting point is 00:16:45 should be one of the easiest environments to survive in. You know, when I watch TV, those guys are in, like, the African Sierra, the Mount McKinley, which just got renamed to something else. Um, D something, Durango, no, it's Denali. Denali, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well done, Denali. Thanks, Obama. Thanks, Obama. It really was him. He signed a little order through. Yeah, he was headed up to Alaska, and he signed a little order and did whatever. Yeah, apparently the Alaskans want, that's what Alaskans call that mountain, apparently.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Yeah, yeah, I heard that too. A little PR move on his way into town, I guess. Yeah, make him happy. It's fine, I don't care what it's called. I think we could survive out here if we knew what we were doing. Yes. And, like, there's lots of game trails. If we could
Starting point is 00:17:28 trap, I feel like we could set traps and be marginally effective over a period of a week or so. Like, I don't know why we couldn't catch one of those pigs that's running through. Yeah, they're definitely not abiding by any laws in those shows. If we could make traps, I feel like that would be helpful. Or even just bring traps, we'd definitely
Starting point is 00:17:44 be catching shit left and right. Because these woods are full of stuff. It's just, they hear us coming, and we're not going to be able to walk up on them. I believe the woods are full of things. I haven't seen any. Well, I saw a squirrel. I think we're too loud. I was going to use my GPS to get back from the car, but instead I just followed the sound of your voice.
Starting point is 00:18:05 So that's true at camp, but when I saw the squirrel, I was out fishing, which is not that far. It's maybe 100 feet away or something. And I brought my shotgun just because I'm out there, one with nature, fishing, not making a peep. I was hoping something would come up on me, but that didn't happen at all. Well, there's always tomorrow. And then the next day, and then the next day. Is that in there? I hope so.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Tomorrow's Wednesday, and the next day, that's right, that's right. Well, and then the next day, and then the next day will be a very short, and then the next day. Like, I'll go home tonight, spend the night there and then just... Yeah, what did Kyle say? Like, there's pussy and food at home. Yeah, this is definitely, I want food. I want food and I want, you know, the water's fine for when I'm thirsty, but like I drink soda. And like when I'm not drinking soda, I'll drink something that's sweet. Like, I don't know, I drink coffee and soda. Making a cup of coffee is very difficult.
Starting point is 00:19:12 Yeah, making a cup of coffee is not easy. I didn't have coffee. Actually, all I've had is water and crawfish. But today we're going to kill the chicken. We are going to kill the chicken. We today we're going to kill the chicken. We are going to kill the chicken. We don't know how to cook the chicken. There's thought that we're going to make a soup of some sort. I think that's the way to go.
Starting point is 00:19:35 Chicken and leaf soup. We'll use that covered pot that Battlebox sent. Right. But, I mean, it's going to take a while. We should start that after we get done with this, I guess. Yeah, I mean, we should start that after we get done with this, I guess. Yeah, we need to
Starting point is 00:19:47 start a fire. I don't know what I'm doing in that regard. I feel like we should just take the chicken. We're going to cut
Starting point is 00:19:54 up a chicken, de-feather it, pull the skin off it or something. No, you eat the skin. We're going to pull the feathers
Starting point is 00:19:59 off the chicken, cut it up, and then it's going to start resembling things that we're used to. That's what I think. Like that breast, we're going to be like, oh yeah, this is chicken breast. I'm not sure about eating the skin. Why? There's tons of calories in the skin.
Starting point is 00:20:15 It's the best part of the chicken too. I'd like to look this up on the internet because I know maybe when you fry chicken, that's a thing. You never had baked chicken, too? Yeah, there's chicken skin on it. Okay. I think we're going to have a really fucking hard time cooking a chicken all the way through over a skewer, though. Like, if you boil it, then you don't lose any of the nutrients. Yeah, I'm not voting for the skewer, either. I vote chicken soup.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I think it's going to cook it all the way through. That's the main concern. And we have a pot or something large enough to make this? It's like right next to us. No, not large enough to make a big vessel. You'll have to cut it up and we'll have to just... Multiple soups. Multiple chicken soups. Yeah, it'll have to be. I don't know what else to do because I don't think skewering is the way to go. How are we going to kill the chicken? Machete to the neck? I'll just cut its head off. Oh, you want to do the killing? I don't care care if anyone wants to kill the chicken they're more than welcome to but i i just don't want to pluck the chicken um i'd rather not do that
Starting point is 00:21:17 oh that's totally you how is that me because you're the chicken guy yeah that in no way everything regarding the chicken you're the only one that has experience. I'm a computer programmer and you're a chicken farmer. Yeah. Who do you think plucks the chicken in this situation? Absolutely. You do. You do.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Or Chiz does. I feel like Chiz should pluck the chicken. No. I don't know what I'm doing. You're the farm boy. See those feathers? Pull them out. If we had some IT issue out here, me and Woody would be working on it.
Starting point is 00:21:46 But there's a live fucking chicken here, and you're debating who's going to fucking take care of it? I've never plucked a chicken. Bullshit. Why would I pluck a chicken? Have you watched anyone pluck a chicken? Never. Never. Not once.
Starting point is 00:21:57 No. I think that's what you'd say if you were trying to get a chicken. In what scenario would I be plucking fucking chickens? I don't know. You were raised on a chicken farm, and you're going to tell me you've never seen anyone pluck a chicken? You've seen those videos. They sling them into those cages and haul them off to a slaughterhouse. You don't keep any for yourselves?
Starting point is 00:22:17 No. No? No. Nothing like that. I wouldn't eat that chicken. Well, if you didn't leave the cookies behind, I'd say, yeah, I'll pluck the feathers. I'm going to go get those goddamn cookies. So if we get the cookies, you'll pluck the chicken. That's the... No, no, no, I accept your terms. I'm not excited about eating it anyway. Really? What, the chicken? Yeah. I'm not either. I
Starting point is 00:22:37 want something very good. I'm really hungry. I don't think so either. Yeah. I'm hungry. Well, save me a breast. I'm hungry. I'll cook it over on a skewer and do an amazing job. I'm hungry too. So you want to cut here and start our next recording? Since we have to film these in 30 minute slices. We've got about a minute left. Cut. Are we live? We are live.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Alright. I am getting short. I'm going to say the grumpy's already kicked in. Yeah, you've been mean since yesterday. Yeah. That's so not true. You totally have. That's not true. You just say that.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So we were on with that waitress. I was on the call with my wife. And she was, you know, I'd like the Flamin' Yawn. And then, like, silence out of her. Just a brick wall. And I'd like the filet mignon and then like silence out of her just a brick wall and I'm like because it was all right do you wanna know why they were silence because everybody knew what you were supposed to do I want this is how I ordered filet mignon medium-rare loaded baked potatoes Caesar salad and a sweet tea see now here's how I order I'd like the
Starting point is 00:23:41 filet mignon Oh would you like baked or mashed potatoes? Baked. Would you like green beans or carrots? Green beans. Filet. That's so not how it was. No, I took the phone away and held it here. Jackie heard the whole thing and they're like,
Starting point is 00:23:57 they're saying that was rude. No, at this point you're just looking for stuff. It's true. All jokes aside, I swear to God, I could give the waiter a hummer and they'd be like, you know, that was a little toothy, Woody. I don't think you treat the waitstaff well. Even Patrick was the first to say something.
Starting point is 00:24:14 He went, I thought you guys were just exaggerating when you said that. No, he wasn't the first. He was responding to you. Because you guys all went nuts on it. I didn't say a word. That's not true. I think Chiz brought it up. I did. But I will say what is true is, like, we did a little cut,
Starting point is 00:24:29 and then, like, minutes are going by. I'm like, are we waiting for something? I expected it to be, like... 90 seconds went by. What are we waiting on? But, oh, we had our next topic picked out. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I guess not.
Starting point is 00:24:42 Yeah, so Notch... So if people don't know, Not notch is the guy that made Minecraft and Prior to making Minecraft. I don't know if he had ever made anything. He was just a computer programmer carving his way through life and Minecraft became this super crazy hit and thrust upon him literally fame and fortune Now not like it was a total accident I mean he obviously marketed it. You don't code on live stream if you're not looking for some sort of attention.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But that's what he'd do. And when... It was actually when he attacked server owners. When he attacked the server owners, they pushed back to some extent and said, look, you know, with the changes he's making, servers won't last.
Starting point is 00:25:26 And they backed off making those changes, and he sold the company. Because he didn't like all the fussing that people... He attacked their favorite version of Minecraft on public servers. The people who played attacked Notch. Notch sold the company, just got out of business. He outbid Jay-z on his mansion he throws parties all the time they keep saying he has a candy sponsor i don't know why that's significant but i guess there's an impressive wall filled with candy in his mansion or estate
Starting point is 00:25:57 how much does candy cost really though i feel like you got ten thousand dollars worth of candy then you've got a candy wall right i feel like feel like I could hook myself up with a candy wall. Like, don't get me wrong. This guy's a fucking billionaire. I'm impressed already. So, like, but I don't want to hear about his candy wall. Like, tell me about his wall of Corvettes. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But apparently now he's having a really hard time making friends. Good. And he says he's never, he's on Twitter saying he's never felt more alone. Another thing he said that I thought was interesting is he's like, when I sold this company, I did everything I could to make sure the employees were okay and now they all hate me. That was new information to me. But everyone is kind of pulling the cry me a river, you're a billionaire, you're not allowed to be unhappy card. Yeah. I would bet that the guy didn't have much of a social life or friends or anything beforehand,
Starting point is 00:26:50 and now all that's changed is he's adjacent to social lives, and it sucks. He had a wife before. He did? What happened to her? Somehow during his rise to fame and fortune, he got divorced. I don't think the details are well known. He could be a cheater, she could be a cheater, or maybe he just traveled a lot. Maybe he was planning on trading up. I can't say, but now he's alone and unhappy.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And I'm surprised you guys don't feel a little more empathy, because I feel like on a very small scale, like I've felt that too. I'm obviously not a billionaire. No. But, you know, it is true that a lot of times when i meet new people they want something from me uh and it's difficult to tell who friends are okay he's not brad pitt though let's be real like he's richer than brad pitt okay but here's the point i'm trying to make point i'm trying to make though is if i put notch in a lineup of a hundred other people against a random survey like who's gonna pull out that notches the billionaire
Starting point is 00:27:45 based on how he looks so if i were him he could take his money go anywhere be anonymous and meet new people and new friends that's the thing you have money to to make not buy friends make them you can go somewhere where people don't know who you are or what you do and money's not a problem if you hang around nerds and celebrities that might you know mingle yeah they're gonna hit you up for cash like he has outlets it's not like someone who can't pay their mortgage and is still trying to keep a relationship at home and friendships going like boohoo no yeah there are devices so what it is is like most people on earth are devoting all their time and resources to solve the money problem.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Right? You know, they work 40 hours a week or 80 hours a week or wherever they are. That's usually the range. I'm American, maybe. Europeans probably work, what, like 15 hours a week. They can't even get to the moon. But real people work like 40 to 80 hours a week. And they're devoting all their time and energy to afford
Starting point is 00:28:45 like their houses and their cars and their families and their kids tuition and stuff like that and it's hard for them to empathize with somebody whose main problem isn't theirs you know like once they're like wow my main problem in life is affording all the things that me my wife and my kids need you take that problem away and you still have an issue? What the fuck? You know, like, making friends? God, you know, that's hardly on my radar of issues. But you say that, but I'm sure a lot of people that are familiar with Notch, especially a lot of the people that probably attack him and tweet him the most, are people that have one friend or not a big friend.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Why does he have a Twitter? To funnel his unhappiness yeah why does he have why is he on social media like like like he's doing this to himself i have no pity for the guy but there's plenty of other people i'm sure that follow notch are in his dilemma but they're saying boohoo to youtube because like i pointed out like you've got so many options of ways to make yourself happy or find new people new friends new relationships when you've got so many options of ways to make yourself happy or find new people, new friends, new relationships, when you've got a billion fucking dollars. There's no reason to have Twitter if you've got a billion dollars.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, especially if you're done making money, right? If you're Elon Musk and you're trying to do a thing, I get it. Twitter up, you know? It's like having your own publishing company. Sure. Donald Trump is a billionaire ten times over, right? But Donald Trump could write a... Well, he's mostly fake, but he is a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:30:11 You're the only one who wants to point out that that's a thing. Even MSNBC refers to him as being worth $10 billion. He valued his own name at over $3 billion. What would you value that at? I don't know. It's worth something. I feel like he would know better than me. I feel like he picked a value on intangible things that would take him up to $10.
Starting point is 00:30:30 I bet he had someone else value it, and then he went on with their numbers. I doubt that he went and did some math. I bet he valued it himself. Or if he paid someone to value it, they came back with a number that they thought he'd like. But back on topic, Trump is very very rich he loves his twitter he says it's like owning his own publishing company he can put his message out there and it's
Starting point is 00:30:51 unfiltered and it's what he wants to say and it gets to people and it's great and i can see it so but notch i'm with you i don't see why notch has a twitter it doesn't seem to make him happy hell he tweeted how he was unhappy. Being a social media stupid person, he probably thought that the reaction was going to be... Oh, poor you. Oh, man. I'll be your friend. I don't know what he thought was going to happen, but it was clear to me what would actually happen. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:19 Fuck you. You have money. You could suck a dick. Start with mine. That is without a doubt. You could suck a dick. Start with mine. That is without a doubt how everyone was going to respond. Of course. And almost everyone did. It's because he's got so much money.
Starting point is 00:31:32 If he had five, ten million dollars, like, oh, man, yeah, okay, everybody gets down. You'll get over it. Maybe try this and that. He's got a billion dollars. It's a whole other level of wealth. Oh, goodness. It's an inconceivable amount of money that's difficult to even get rid of if you want to. Like, he's just, I don't feel sorry for him.
Starting point is 00:31:49 I'm not gonna. No. Help! Help! Where's the flare gun? If you see a bird, I'm grabbing this shotty. Now, if they drop a care package full of baked pizza and stuff right here. Now, that we eat.
Starting point is 00:32:00 That we eat. Yeah, right? We'll turn that down and say, sorry, God. Your sign wasn't clear enough. I expected you to deliver it personally. Oh, God. I remember that joke. I remember it, though.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's like, you know, I sent a boat to save you from drowning. He sent a helicopter. He's like, and then the guy dies or whatever. He's like, why didn't you save me? He's like, I sent you a boat and a helicopter. Why didn't you take them? Yeah, I got no pity for that guy. He shouldn't be on Twitter. He shouldn't be on social media. He should disappear
Starting point is 00:32:27 with his money. That's what I'd do. He's clearly doing it wrong, but I can understand what happened to him there. You know, he gets hated on in social media and he's addicted to it. He can't look away. He's got tons of money. Money's not his problem anymore, but relationships are. And
Starting point is 00:32:43 it is a barrier to be rich and famous, to meeting new people. He's not famous. He's just not famous. He's rich. He can't walk down the street and get recognized. Yeah, that's the thing. He can go anywhere. I've met the guy, and I don't remember what he looks like.
Starting point is 00:32:55 He's just an average. I'd recognize him. All right. I don't know what famous is, though. But that's not fair, though. That's like saying Kyle will recognize a certain country western singer or a shooter person. What I'm saying... He knows them.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I just don't know how to define famous because I think Hutch is famous. They know the name Notch, but I'm saying how many people can recognize Notch and the name? It's only a barrier. It's only a barrier if he's getting recognized when he goes places and that's interfering with his life. But I don't think he is. I think the only people who are going to recognize him are Minecraft aficionados. Or the people he's inviting to these parties. They know who he is, of course.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I'll admit, it's not like he can't walk through a grocery store without being mobbed. Any grocery store without being recognized, I bet. I feel like he's not the face of Minecraft. I hang out with you for a day. You get recognized at places. Yeah, sure. He has a YouTube presence where his face is...
Starting point is 00:33:44 He is the product. The product is Minecraft. This is the, it's like, who can recognize the guy behind Cisco? Unless you've got a certain CEO
Starting point is 00:33:53 that's out there like Bill Gates or, you know, Tim, not Tim Cook. Dana White. Unless you've got like a guy out there
Starting point is 00:33:59 who's like the face of your product and Notch wasn't that and good for him or he wouldn't have made a billion dollars. But I guess all I'm saying, and while you say he's not famous, it's true, but there are 30 million people who know him,
Starting point is 00:34:13 and all you have to do is hear that he's famous and about his accomplishments, and suddenly you'll look at him a different way. If I had a billion bucks, I think I would go somewhere. I would disappear a bit, in a way. I don't know where I'd go, but I would disappear a bit in a way. I don't know where I'd go, but I'd find myself a, you know, I'd make myself a new life. Buy a boat. Where people wouldn't know who I was. Yeah, go ahead and buy like a $100 million boat.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Really? 10% off the top? I'd live on it. I'd live on the boat. I would travel from port to port. I heard that before. You didn't do it. I'd travel from, well, I'd have a captain and I'd have like
Starting point is 00:34:45 a first mate and you know, there'd be a whole crew. You need like 15 people to run a $100 billion boat. So. If I had a billion dollars, I'm not sure I'd even move.
Starting point is 00:34:53 Like, I'm fucking fine. I don't know what I'd do with a billion. I guess travel more? I definitely have more staff. If I had a billion dollars, you know, they'd probably... Really? You wouldn't be done on a billion?
Starting point is 00:35:09 A billion? You wouldn't be done? What do you mean done? Like... Done earning money. Oh, when you say staff, I thought you meant work staff. These are people that cook for me. You meant staff at home. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 You'd say servants. Yeah. Then we know what you mean. Okay. I think that's what you meant anyway. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely wouldn't be answering my own door.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Now, what kind of servants would you want? Because there's a lot. Would you want a valet? Food and cleaning. That's what I'm really down for. Oh. You don't want a driver? You don't need a billion dollars to get that done.
Starting point is 00:35:38 A driver? Yeah. Everywhere you go, there's a guy who's taken like defensive driving courses. He carries a concealed handgun. He's licensed to carry it. He's your bodyguard, your driver. He gets you where you need to go. There's a guy who's taking defensive driving courses. He carries a concealed handgun. He's licensed to carry it. He's your bodyguard, your driver. He gets you where you need to go. Never gets lost. Plus, you know, as I think about having a driver,
Starting point is 00:35:54 wouldn't any other truck be a downgrade? No. Drivers don't drive trucks. I'd find myself in some crappy Cadillac. I mean, you got a billion dollars, you could have a truck constructed. You could take, start with your truck and build a super truck around it maybe. You could actually just take your truck as it is now and make that the prototype and
Starting point is 00:36:15 go, we're producing these. That didn't like that. Oh, you got it all wrong. You got to hit it here. Hit it here. Some guy banging sides. Like, oh no, no, you forgot the broken taillight. Yeah, I'd want all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:36:30 I think you definitely want, like, yeah, definitely, like, a butler, maid, like the basic stuff. But, you know, I want some guy to come in and shine my shoes, and there's going to be a chef for sure. Yeah, yeah, you beat me to it. But, yeah, definitely. That would be the number one thing is, like, a great chef. That would be amazing to have, like, gourmet meals every yeah. Yeah, you beat me to it. But yeah, definitely. That would be the number one thing. It's like a great chef. That would be amazing to have, like, gourmet meals every day.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh. That's what I'd do. Bring that shit back here. But yeah, I got no pity for a guy with a billion dollars unless he's got, like, something wrong with him. And there's nothing wrong with that guy. He's just, uh...
Starting point is 00:37:01 I've got a little pity for him. Even though he didn't seem to have any for me when he tried to attack server owners. You know what? Take it back. Fuck that guy. Let him die in a fire. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:10 I just... A money fire. A money fire. Exactly. Go recreate that scene from Breaking Bad where they lay down on the cash and set it aflame. Or the one from the Batman movie where they burn all that money. It's a bad movie. That's not a bad movie. Any Batman movie where they burn all that money. That's a bad movie. That's not a bad movie.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Any movie in which they burn that much money can't be good. They didn't bother me because the money didn't look real. It was such a large amount of money that it was ridiculous. The new Batman. It's funny. So some of the new movies that are coming out, like, oh, yeah, Guardians of the Galaxy and Avengers and all these guys, they're going to start combining. I'm like, what? No, that's too good to be true.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I'm just going to tease that shit for six years. But, like, with Batman, like, Batman and Superman and the Joker, this crazy person and all that. Like, this, it's like they just put all their cards on the table. Like, they're like, let's just make the best one right now. Well, they have to skip phase one. They don't have time to establish each character. They're playing catch up right now. Yeah. They've got to get ready for a Justice League movie in, like have to skip phase one. They don't have time to establish each character. They're playing catch up right now. They gotta get ready for a Justice League movie in like the next
Starting point is 00:38:08 five years. Marvel just finished phase two I think. Like, they're about to move to phase three. And here's DC. Like, they haven't even began phase one really. So, they've gotta do that. They gotta load this first series of films up with multiple characters, establish all that stuff. Aquaman's in there too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:24 See, now, if it were Marvel, like you're saying, it'd be 15 years out, that movie that we're waiting for. Like, first there'd be Aquaman, Aquaman 2, Aquaman 3, like we had with Thor and Iron Man. No, they alternated. Well, they alternated. It went Iron Man. I think two or three movies from Marvel come out every year.
Starting point is 00:38:43 DC doesn't have one yet. Captain America, Captain America 2. Yeah, there's two or three movies from Marvel coming out every year. DC doesn't have one yet. Captain America 2. Yeah, there's two or three movies for each of them now. We're going to get a Batman movie. We're going to get a Superman 2 movie. These things are going to happen, too. I guess, but I just feel like I'm happy they're skipping ahead and giving us some stuff. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:39:00 We'll see what the finished product looks like. Sounds great. I mean, they've got the Suicide Squad thing coming out. That's going to be neat. Civil War's coming out starting next year, too. That's going to be awesome. Yeah, that's Marvel's thing. And Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, I'm excited about Star Wars because it's J.J. Abrams. Yeah. There's never been a good Star Wars movie, in my opinion. But we might get one coming up soon. Well, I actually re-watched the more current three and they were better than I remembered them. I like the sword fight.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You could edit those movies down and make a couple of good movies out of those three new ones but you gotta cut out all of the fucking
Starting point is 00:39:36 children. Cut Anakin Skywalker right out. Cut his little ass right out of that shit. Cut Hayden. Like, his character really
Starting point is 00:39:44 doesn't even belong in there. Like, the cool part is Qui-Gon Jinn and Obi-Wan Kenobi and their sword fights with the Sith. That's the only cool shit in there. And all the cool cityscape stuff. But as far as Hayden Christensen's acting and that little kid who played Anakin, that shit's awful. And that Jar Jar Binks motherfucker. Yeah. They should have killed him immediately.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Like, he's such an awful character. They're children's movies. They should have killed him immediately. He's such an awful character. They're children's movies. They should do that. Like in this new one, they should show Jar Jar murder him. Yeah, just like that. And then the feeling will erupt. Like it should be cold-blooded.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Like Darth Maul should come up with his new robo-legs and just fucking slice him in half and just keep moving forward. And you're just like, ah, they killed Jar Jar. And then you hear the crowd erupt. that would happen yeah oh god that'd be great they should really do that i swear like it's cool um mark hamill who played luke skywalker he's the
Starting point is 00:40:38 exact age of um of what obi-wan was in the original three really and he's going to be, it's been hinted at. People think from that trailer he's going to be like an evil guy. Like, it's been told and hinted he's going to be like, like an Obi-Wan, basically, to the next generation. Yeah, that's what I think is going to happen. Mark Hamill has a sick-ass beard. Mark Hamill's a great voice actor. You know, he was the one doing the Joker for all those years on the animated side.
Starting point is 00:41:05 He's great at it. Yeah. Really talented guy. He lost weight for this. Like, Mark Hamill hasn't been in good shape for a long time. He's been fat. And he lost, I don't know how many pounds, but it looks like he dropped 40 or 50 pounds for this Star Wars thing.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But they're paying him, too. Of course they're paying him. Well, I mean, how much? How much is Mark Hamill worth at this point? Well, if he's playing the role of Obi-Wan. Sure you need him. It's hard to define, isn't it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 If he's playing the role of Obi-Wan and just the fanfic alone that they're going to have Mark Hamill back in the series, it's like... When Kyle said, I bet they're paying him, I think he meant, I bet they're paying him well. Yeah, they're paying him well, but I don't know how well. Because, like, on one hand, they need him. And he knows they need him. On the other hand, it's like, what else are you doing, Mark? You're going to go do the Joker's voice in some more cartoons? That's all you've got cooking right now, right?
Starting point is 00:41:52 You're going to go to Comic-Con and sign some autographs for 20 bucks a pop? I don't think that's how those work. Let's pay this guy shit because he ain't got no other work to do. I think it is. That's how all jobs work. Not Mark Hamill, though. Yeah, Mark Hamill. Yeah, I bet so.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I bet he's not making $20 million or $10 million or anything like that. I don't think anyone's making that, though. Oh, yeah, they do. I mean, Robert Downey Jr. made like $80 million last year. He gets a percentage, though. That's why. He's the only one that got that deal. He's not the only one that gets that deal.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Lots of people make $10, $20 million a film. They do, but I'm just saying, the reason he has been the highest paid actor for three years is because he gets a percentage cut. I think Sandra Bullock gets like $15 or $20. It's whatever they negotiate. It's not the person. It's whatever they negotiate for film.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Well, your negotiating position is the person, though. It's totally the person. Different actors have different dollar amounts attached to them. It costs X amount of money to get Tom Cruise, period. Brad Pitt, period. Because Tom Cruise is sitting there choosing between movies. He's got more going on. You want him to pick your movie.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Right, and let's keep using these examples. Robert Downey Jr. is not top billing over Tom Cruise, if you ask me. Yeah, he is. Just because he's the highest paid actor doesn't mean he is. Name all his movies that are good. Go. There's about... I can count them on my hands.
Starting point is 00:43:07 I can count them on my hands, too, because that's about as many as he's made, really. That's not true. I can't think of all his bad movies. He's had a lot of bad movies, too. I can't name them. But he commands more than Tom Cruise, I bet, just because of what he does. He's Tony Stark. You can't get another Tony Stark and slip him into that universe and not lose billions
Starting point is 00:43:29 Like you'd lose a billion dollars if you put fucking some random guy in there as Tony Stark and then tried to make four more movies with him But that doesn't but to say I get that with a marvel I'm talking about that But I'm saying if Robert Downey Jr. Goes to do another project. He doesn't warrant 15% of whatever Just because he's in the movie look at what the judge did you want a bad movie that's a bad movie i don't think it was a bad movie it was an okay movie it did poorly it did do poorly financially um but i thought um what's his name the old guy robert duvall such a good actor i thought yeah he's a great actor yeah i thought it was a good movie. I don't know. I think J.J. Abrams is going to make Star Wars
Starting point is 00:44:07 awesome. That's the thing I'm looking forward to. Well, he did one Star Trek movie awesome. Wait, two Star Trek movies were awesome. That second one was not that great. I thought it was good. At first I thought it was good, but after watching it a second time... It's not that great. After watching it a second time,
Starting point is 00:44:23 I have a much lower opinion of it. I went back and watched Wrath of Khan and I watched Into Darkness as well and I don't like it now, I don't think. I think we should cut this and cook a chicken. It's a lot of work. Let's do it. All right.
Starting point is 00:44:40 That was PKN, 55 or 6.

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