Painkiller Already - Secret Service Conspiracy, Dick VS Hutch: PKA 709

Episode Date: July 20, 2024

You don't see it, do you? PKA 709 with two guests tonight, Dick and Hutch. Kyle? Couple of sponsors tonight. Of course, Lock and Load and our wonderful merchant. Once again, BetterHelp. Great sponsors, great guests. Looking forward to a great show.

I like it. I like it. Well done. Oh, yeah. What's up? Hey, do you think Destiny would be a good sponsor for lock and load with the recent uh revelations about his proclivities what do you think about that wait what i don't think i know the revelations can you wait does destiny does destiny not have big loads does he need help

oh no uh destiny likes loads uh in the other direction you like this this uh this chick that he was you know how vindictive exes are, right? She dropped a bunch of DMs about him wanting to felch a bunch of jizz out of her snatch or something. I don't know what the show's rated, but... Damn.

I'm speaking in code. It's code, guys. He's felching jizz, okay? It's not what you think. He wanted to dig the mayo out of her purse with his mouth, if you know what I mean. His own?

That's my pre-workout. It's 2024, guys. Everybody needs to relax. There's nothing wrong with felching a little cum, Dick. That's what I'm saying. You know what, Loki? If Trump was getting felched, would you dive'm saying. Would you felch for Trump? If Trump was getting felched, would you dive in front of Trump and felch it so he didn't have to?

I would. I would. Oh, boy. We're leading with this. Poor destiny. I'll read it out loud. Nothing can prepare you for when the man who begged for foot pics lets you scratch him until he bled and asks you to eat.

Okay. Your boyfriend's coming out of your vagina goes viral for cheering on the death of a random firefighter at Trump's almost assassination Brought to you by Lock and Load, that's what I'm saying Brought to you by Lock and Load You know what, this is marketing genius we need to get him on Is your girlfriend's pussy only a quarter full of

jizz? you've got far more felching you intended to do this evening you guys need to pace yourselves you're coming on a little strong here you're gonna have to match this for the rest of the the the pod oh i hear you we roll all right we've got eight different felching stories tonight. Okay. We're going to parse them out. Yeah. Over the four hours. Low key. I'm not seeing any victims in this thing.

This is just destiny living his best life. Thumbs up. Yeah. I just want to say like. Eating another guy's cum. Rather not do that. But man, I shivered even more when I heard scratched until bled because I hate getting scratched so much. A girl scratched me one time and I really disliked it. I heard scratched until bled because I hate getting scratched so much. A girl scratched me one time and I really disliked it.

I don't want to be scratched. Do you bled? Certainly not until I bleed. That's gross. I could see you really disliking that, Kyle. I could see you getting really angry. Oh, I tried to bitch up. I didn't know her.

You did that because she scratched you or yeah yeah i took the um the iron i think from the hotel room and i used the cord to like tie her hands up and then i like threw the iron over a piece of furniture so it was kind of anchored and her hands were like stuck i was like you're not gonna scratch me again that's the last fucking straw it's like a stranger scratching me till i bled let's get the fuck off me i feel like in 2024, we should be making fun of the vanillas, not the destinies of this world. Back me up, Hutch.

Well, maybe if... Hey, listen. I'm with you. Live your life. Whatever makes you happy. As long as you're not hurting anybody, I don't give a fuck. That's actually where I draw my line, too. I didn't see any victims. That's how I feel about Dr. Disrespect. Live your life, bro. Go out and have some fun.

Ah, I see this. You're after it. Oh, what? Nobody's with me on this one? Oh, Jake, you're getting it. I have never been a part of a podcast that began with such a breakneck pace. In the UK. I'm sorry.

Oh, shit, man. This is how I roll every time. I've been on this pod five times or something. It's because I'm like Popeye with the felching. I squeeze the girl and it shoots all up. And I get all amped up talking about it. I feel like Hush has gone a little vanilla on us. Ten years ago, he was the one who broke out that everybody's a little bit gay. This exists on a spectrum.

What I said specifically was gay sex doesn't make you gay and I stand by that. I think you did say both of those things. I might be paraphrasing on the one I said but I did get it from you. Beecher wasn't gay in Oz. He got molested by JK Simmons. The logic is sound because if you kill one person you're a

murderer and if you kill multiple people you're a serial killer you know what i mean so it's like the same thing but anyways it was a long time ago are you comparing gay people to serial killers yeah my god that's indirectly indirectly you're gonna get booted out of san francisco for this all right i was fine with the felting blood the blood, child molestation, but now I don't know if I can go on. Yeah, it's been a fun week. I didn't know that about Destiny. God bless him. I did see him on

Piers Morgan getting really lampooned on there. He looked like he was trembling with fury. And it was funny because they were like, look how petulant you're being right now. You're so mad. Cut down on the Red Bulls, bro. It just got...

Between Pierce Morgan, that other guy whose name I don't remember. When was this, Kyle? Three days ago? Two days ago? Two days ago. They roasted him pretty fucking good. But it's hard not to get roasted when you're taking that brave of a stance. That you know this if you're at a trump rally you don't deserve any

empathy if you're murdered which was basically i don't think it was oh no that is the stance that's right i was going to say this particular guy rooted for the death of the progressive side so that was going to describe his stance that way but you're right he did basically said if you support trump then you support insurrection and uh you know throwing over the the united states or treason uh and he didn't have any sympathy for people who were at the rally we're not allowed to do that anymore yeah i guess not don't you think it's a bit absurd for dave rubin of all people to be criticizing destiny yes yeah the guy who stole a baby from a mom yeah i do think it's absurd that he criticizes anybody well that's a whole other i mean we can go down that road if you want

but i'm more speaking to i'm more speaking to dave rubin's old tweets where he uh said that he would kill a teacher regarding like trans stuff. He openly mocked the Paul Pelosi thing. So I don't traffic in the kind of like edgy humor that Destiny does anymore. Maybe once upon a time. Like, I don't know if I ever got that edgy. So it's beyond my threshold. But I do think he's hitting on something that's worth that salient.

It's worth talking about, which is like applying standards equally and if you're going to apply a standard that it's not okay for for for uh destiny to joke about the situation on uh saturday then it has to apply to an 84 year old man being beaten in the head with a hammer and he wasn't joking though what was the punch line well there was no punch line listen either they're both off limits or neither are. You cannot apply a standard unequally. So if you have a standard and you're consistent with that, then fine. I feel like you're in the perfect you're perfectly justified in criticizing destiny, however you please. But if you've been one of these people and there are many prominent right wing voices that have been basically celebrating violence against someone like Paul Pelosi, you don't you have no leg to stand on to criticize destiny just not i felt like zero foundation for that i've seen a similar thing and i'm going to back you up hutch where i guess destiny got kicked off of kick for either the rest

of the month or yeah you got one of those two things he's suspended for something either two or four weeks and everyone's just celebrating it yes kick, kick his ass out. But these same people would clutch their pearls if it happened to them. When right-wing voices were getting kicked off of Twitter or Twitch, they got absolutely bonkers. And they said, this is censorship. This isn't America. But these people see it happen to Destiny

and they're dancing in the streets. I think it's a false equivalency because people were absolutely making jokes about Paul Pelosi. It's not hard to make a quite funny one. It's all on video there. It's goofy. It's weird to see. And then we have a mass shooting event. I don't know. They just seem like totally different. We're a family man. We're a family man, firefighter, one of those essential workers we were championing about a year ago. Oh, my God. In fairness, I never supported firefighters.

Don't don't. I know you hate people. I'm good. I'm a firefighter and I'm brave. Zach, write that down. Woody hates firefighters. He he actually stole money from that 9-11 charity that fixes their lungs. He reverse donated from them.

He's an arsonist, if I'm being honest. I pretended I was putting money in that bowl as they passed it around, but I really removed it. He did the coin in a string trick. No, the sticky hand maneuver. Your whole hand is just sticky. You just go all the way in there. Sticky bandage style.

Oh, like marv yeah i just felt like look they shouldn't have made fun of paul pelosi getting hit in the head with a hammer when you see it happen it's hard to make fun of because you're like holy shit that guy just got clobbered with a hammer that's awful but when you hear about it's like wait strange man showed up at night in his underwear and when the police showed they were having a weird awkward standoff and then he got clobbered that that does sound kind of comical but when i tell you there's a mass shooting at a political rally and a family man had his head exploded in front of his children and his wife as he as he shielded them with his body let me know when the

punchline comes in is it is it is it that they'll live the rest of their lives without a father like i don't know i just didn't think it was a joke i mean such an arbitrary distinction to me like how do you i mean how do you how do you qualify that i mean a guy got beat up how do you say that one is more appropriate or one is more appropriate to joke about what about when road protesters get hit that's awesome that. Yeah, there you go. Hilarious. Guys blocking the road. It just really does feel like if I don't like them, it's funny. If I like them, it's not. Exactly. No. Just be consistent. In the application

of your standards, just be consistent. Then you have every right to criticize. If they're breaking the law when they do it, I like it. That's what I like. What about Pat Tillman? Wasn't that hilarious? I don't know what you put it in that hilarious i mean i've been singing songs about pat tillman getting killed for like 10 years or 20 years the nfl player who volunteered and he got shot by his own guys yeah that was awesome well are you saying that because he was a leftist that like

read noam chomsky or whatever or like what do you what what was the joke there uh well he was like pro-military and then he he gave up an nfl career and everybody uh on the right everybody who was pro-military supported him and then he went over there and got killed it's like what do you mean what's the joke okay apparently like yeah you're encouraging people to go die in war and then you died in war haha fuck you idiot okay so just to be clear you don't you're not condemning destiny for his rhetoric right no i thought what destiny said was awesome i wish all liberals would be as honest as destiny i know you guys all want us dead destiny's saying it yes that's a principle that's a principled stance that's an equal application of the standard so oh i don't think you should have removed let me just be clear i don't think you should be removed from platforms

for me joking and saying and encouraging are all the same because i personally think jokes are more powerful at at uh at normalizing behavior. Like, when I'm making jokes about some things, I mean it. I just can't get away with saying it without calling it a joke in polite society. So I don't really distinguish between any of those things. I don't know what you guys think about that, but not in all cases.

There's sometimes when I see a punchline that completely disagrees with my stance, and often it's something so awful I don't even want to say it, but I can't resist showing that I saw that punchline. And so I've got to say the awful thing, even though I have no stance behind it. But calling what Destiny was doing jokes

is just, maybe y'all didn't see it all. Maybe y'all didn't see him on stream and then on peers and his tweets and everything. Dude, he wants people to die. It didn't come off as jokey, but I also don't like I guess I'm a true free speech absolutist.

You know what? I keep looking at it through the lens of, I don't think this is a good career move. Destiny was exploding. Everywhere I looked, he was on like Pierce Morgan, Fox News. I think I've seen him on cnn you know this guy was one step away from being on rogan or something like like on bigger and bigger

platforms all the time and i feel like he took five steps back uh post trump assassination attempt this is not the first time that nebraska ste. And he just, he flies, he has a tendency of like flying very close to the sun. I don't understand that reference. It's like a meme in his community. It's just like, it's, it's, we'll call it his edgiest sort of persona. Like the fullest extent of his edginess. But he did jokes, he did jokes about, you know, like Israel, Palestine stuff that pissed off a lot of like pro-palestine people he did jokes about are those jokes uh i mean yes he makes he does crack jokes um but and he he's he made jokes about like written house stuff and so like he's he's done

this many many times they're not they're like at least the stuff i saw about the firefighter it does not read as a joke whatsoever he seems almost gleeful that someone died. But even so, you should be able to say whatever. Anything should be allowed. Anything should be like, that's so precious. Yeah, my argument is it's a terrible stance.

Even if it's hateful, which it is hateful. And to say, y'all joked about Paul Pelosi. It's like, so you're just going to drop down to their level the the paul pelosi joker no but that's not the point i mean the point is not like destiny is not saying like he's not expressing his intentions of sort of being better than his critic his whole point that he was making on peers was that the discourse has been irrevocably fucked for years and it flies in both directions and for for

specifically for right-wingers like dave rubin to clutch their pearls over him saying this stuff which again is something that i wouldn't say it's not a position that i hold i'm not going to defend him on the merits of that but he's saying just be consistent and i think that's like a perfectly reasonable thing to point out in a moment like this. I mean, I feel sorry for Paul Pelosi. If there's anybody out there, I don't know much about Paul Pelosi other than that his wife is a political insider who's clearly defrauded our nation out of a lot of money one way or another, or definitely cheated in the stock market and has a lot of just enormous titties. Just God, those mommy milkers. I can't. i see her it's like aoc it's

she's the ancient version but with aoc i'm like i could change my whole political out view for for you my whole outlook whatever you need me to do i'll like like i'll i'll hold your latina queen abortions okay i'll hold her down like 16 year old woody was like yeah i'd go jewish i don't care i'll spend the rest of my life reading the torah for that chick yeah so yeah i gotta go to the wall woody get one of those say it again you're gonna go to the wall and get one of those pictures whatever it took put it in the crack like yeah yeah i've got a real thing for aoc and uh it's maybe it's it's coming from that same place of wanting to get scratched until you bleed, but that lady's it.

Every time I see her on TV, I'm like, tell me more. Tell me more. I'm riveted. Is there a Gmail thing? AOC is mommy. The subreddit is AOC is mommy, I think. Is it still around? Okay.

Hadn't been in a minute. Hadn't been in a minute. Haven't needed to go to that well. My thing is, man, it's so distasteful. You can't argue with that. That's what really struck me. It felt like someone was laughing

about seeing the woman who jumped out of the Twin Towers pussy the day after it happened. That's how distasteful it felt to me. See, this feels like the pearl clutching that we're making fun of. I'm not clutching my pearls. I was genuinely offended. Genuinely funny. The Trump

thing? Really offended. Like, this is an inconsistent standard. No, it's a sense of humor. No, it's not. I mean, okay, it is a sense of humor, sure. I don't have to like all the flavors of ice cream. I'm telling you, raspberry's bad. It's pearl clutching when you like the guy.

You don't like cum flavor? I mean, that's how most politics boils down, is wanting good, beneficial things to happen to allies and bad things to happen to enemies. That's giving in to our worst selves, right? I don't know if I always hit this mark,

but I aspire to be consistent and even when i look at these things and uh when other people don't even try when that like david rubin you know or uh you know donald trump and donald trump jr making fun of pelosi retweeting funny halloween costumes about that guy and then now clutching their pearls clutching their pearls I'm like you guys are hypocrites and I don't like the people who are celebrating

his ban which is you guys well Kyle in particular it's like you know you didn't like the people banned off Twitter but you do like it when the liberal guy gets banned and you know Kyle might be saying like he off Twitter, but you do like it when the liberal guy gets banned. Kyle might be saying he doesn't like when the Covington kids have a false media

campaign formed around them smirking in the wrong direction. Is he the one that didn't like the Indian guy? He's the one who was on those stairs with the Indian. Just as an example. on those stairs with the Indian. Yeah. Just as an example. And so, yeah, the idea that, you know, and so that's almost the other side of the coin,

right? Is you have right wingers being like, oh, now you have left wingers upset about this, but they were more than happy to cancel these people for nothing for years. The Gina Carano's, the fucking the people who didn't cheer on the assassination of a president or violence. They were like wearing MAGA hats and getting fired. I don't think you see left-wingers saying destiny should be left alone. You see people saying apply an even standard.

I'm losing it. Yeah, well, I'm definitely a hypocrite on a lot of things. I think it's better to embrace your hypocrisy than to feign some sort of even-handedness when you know what you feel on the inside You're almost lying to yourself like when Heather Heyer died on the unite the right thing

I was like I was totally buying all those conspiracy theories that she didn't get hit by that car because she was a great big fat person Oh, yeah Probably got scared had a heart attack While she's out there raging and beating on this guy this poor guy who got lost and turned down the wrong street are raging and beating on this guy, this poor guy who got lost and turned down the wrong street car. He was asking for directions and they were screaming death to America and he hit the wrong pedal because he's a man. So he drives a manual transmission. He was asking for directions. He said, which way is the protest? See the difference. So in that way yeah i'm 100 a hypocrite because when i see a great big fat

literally fat um awful looking ugly person who's screaming things i don't believe um and then she becomes a hero and then all of her pictures are like a certain way like the whole thing irked me the wrong way but like if we find out this firefighter was a pedophile maybe maybe then destiny's joke could be funny to me like i could laugh but as far as i know he had some mean tweets about palestine and then it was a family man for 40 years and a fire chief that's what i know about this guy so it was just like having no entity for him he was gonna kill what were those people with the ice blocks under their feet protesting? Was that Palestine? Do you know? Oh, I don't even know what that means.

Ice blocks under their feet? I know the joke you're talking about. I have no idea what that meant. Oh, they're like, what would you do if you were here? And he's, all right, so there's people, they have nooses around their necks, and they're standing on ice blocks as if this thing's going to melt, and they will begin to hang. Try not to count challenge. And he said that he would play

a game of kick the ice block or something close to that oh they were protesting global warming yeah so he would kill these people for protesting global war that's his mean tweet i think mean tweet i mean it is a mean tweet but yeah it tells you where the guy's mind was that's pretty funny it's kind of a kind of a joke there too too. He did say some mean shit about Palestine. He was like, Japan rebuilt. Rebuilt. They'll be fine. And it was like, that's pretty mean, bro.

The children are still on fire, no matter what side you're on. I don't think they're going to be building that back. I think he was pretty far off the crazy side of the right political spectrum. I think he was on the mean dad side, for sure. Social media is awful. You can get off there anyway. But I still feel bad for him and that he died and that his family's there. And that they got to see it, you know?

They got, I don't know if you saw the video. They have his head wrapped in a towel. And it's kind of, it appears to be really just kind of being held together by the person holding his head. And there's two or three other men like hauling his body out of there. And this is like immediate aftermath. So I don't know, like he, you should be able to make whatever joke you want. You should be able to say just about anything. Obviously there are limits to free speech. You know, I'm thinking of yelling fire in certain places or threatening the president, which is

why what he said is kind of it's right adjacent to a presidential assassination. And I think that's where a lot of alarms go off for people. It's like, hey, that's the thing we don't joke about. That's the thing you can't say. Trump himself joked about, he said

Second Amendment people could take care of hillary and he said that he has plenty of examples of of using like obviously explicitly violent rhetoric so he did i mean he did say exactly what you said yeah that was justifies like listen i think like if that if that person was ultimately successful and actually assassinated trump just practically speaking from a political from a political perspective i think it would have galvanized the MAGA movement. I think they would have crowned a new era parent. And I think it would have, it really would have been a boon to their movement. It wouldn't have killed Trumpism. It would have just amplified it. And so I think it's terrible for democracy. I'm just saying like, it's difficult for me to feel

sympathy for Trump when he's engaged in the kind of rhetoric that he has over and over and over again. He himself made fun of Paul Pelosi. So I, you know, expecting people like me to feel sympathy for Trump when he's engaged in the kind of rhetoric that he has over and over and over again. He himself made fun of Paul Pelosi. So, you know, expecting people like me to feel like emotionally like bad for him. No, I mean, absolutely. Obviously not. Hmm. See, I think that when a lot of people on the other side like hear you say that and their belief, they believe, is that the hand of God came down. The God they believe in, as much as you believe in that.

He killed that fireman. And redirected the bullet to the fireman, yeah. Sure, sure, yeah. God hates the fireman. I've been telling you guys all this time. Who do you think's starting the fires? Job security, that's what they're doing. So, you know, you've got to keep that in mind.

That's where the other side is on this that the hand of god diverted the bullet from a great man who has chosen to do great things that's where they are right now did you see the video today uh and who knows if i got i got memed but it was finally the angle of the ear itself and the bullet and you can see the like punch hole no that's that's got to be ai i think it's the wrong year because the video is like flipped uh oh i thought it was flipped because of one of those videos what if he puts a gauge in there what if he puts a gauge in there and like like so the bullet hole's always there he finally comes out you know you didn't like when it was destiny but american flag getting his right ear pierced.

Everyone's talking about felching. I love it. Maybe he could make an earring out of the bullet that hit him. He could just wear it all the time as a reminder. That'd be super political strategy. That thing's going to heal up. Remember when I had a wound?

But if you put a gauge in there, he could pop that gauge out before every time it went on camera. It's like, look at this hole. It's never healed. I wonder what his ear looks like. I bet it doesn't look good. I bet it doesn't look bad. It's just astonishing that this man's life

is continuing because he made a random decision to look right in a moment. It's incredible. A moment later, it would have gone through the back of his head. What Hutch is trying to tell you guys, center mass, center mass. I get it, Hutch. You're beating that drum. He's trying.

You got greedy with headshots. We all know that feeling. I got greedy with a headshot. Damn it. I wanted to be cool. I wanted to get that explosion. It is crazy, crazy how just a meaningless decision

to look right and you live. That's just nuts. Yeah, it is. Hutch got famous quit scoping. He knows the deal. He was hard scoping in that the deal i mean hard scoping in that moment apparently according to the secret service for like fucking an hour minutes on top of the shed like i am so flabbergasted at how that happened like i'm not getting into conspiracy theory i mean like oftentimes you can you can you can ascribe uh uh incompetence over conspiratorial stuff or nefarious stuff.

But it's just inconceivable to me that you had literally reportedly there were people that were like, hey, cops, there's a guy with a fucking – we can see him right there. Yeah, two minutes. Hey, by the by, there's a fellow with a gun up there. Hey, Hutch, I've been asking myself this question, so I'll ask you. Let's say you're the sniper on the other roof, right? It's my understanding. I'm not sure I'm right. It's my understanding that sniper was watching the would-be assassin through the scope. He was observed and he knew about him. This wasn't a surprise, but he didn't pull the trigger

until the assassin did. Do you think you would have taken that guy down on the hunch that i mean he's a hundred thousand percent he's obviously the shooter right i'm sorry it's what i do i guess you're right i don't know i'm like do i ask for clear and i just say it's like i'm glad but i've also heard that there was a i don't know we'll obviously get more information when there's an investigation but i've also i've also heard there was a tree obstructing the view and that could explain that could explain it i mean i don't know if that's true i'll tell you what explains it like here's what the right is going to say if they want to be fucking hard on this um they need to

talk about secret service details being diverted to uh to to jill biden and uh and to congressional campaigns they need to talk about um by the way, this was the heightened security. This wasn't Trump's standard security that he had last week. This was the new heightened badass security because there's an Iranian plot to kill Trump because Trump killed that Iranian General Soleimani back in whenever the hell. So they find out, oh shit, the Iranians are trying to kill Trump. We better beef up his secret service detail. Send Shane Gillis' sister in. Send the bulldog.

Send the bulldog. Let her get in there. And an old cross-eyed joke. Put him on that rooftop over there. How slanted is it, though? There were reports that he was spotted with a, what do you call it, a range finder? Is that what you call it?

Yeah, I've read that. I don't know. There's reports that they saw a guy with a range finder like 25 minutes before, and they still let him get on the stage. It's like, yeah, there's somebody. Heads are for sure going to roll. They're already talking about hauling up multiple Secret Service people in front of congressional committees in the House. Didn't Mayorkas is trying

to prevent that, isn't he? I haven't heard any. I know Comer was calling for hearings that night. Literally that night. So the head of the Secret Services is laying in Kimberly something or another. She went to the RNC convention last night and two senators were on her ass,

and she had to run to a secure room as they shouted, you work for us. You answer to me. We want answers. Why this? Why that? Like shouting at her through the halls. This is the RNC.

This is where we listen to Hindu prayers. That's what we do here. Look, come on. Come on, Taylor. You didn't like the Hindu prayer at the RNC? I'm on vacation. I didn't watch any of it. Oh, fuck off. I watched every minute of it. I was like, let's get it. We're going to bring everybody together.

Oh, could the party of the right be the Rainbow Coalition? Could we be the common sense? Everybody's welcome as long as you've got some common sense party. Oh, please, God. And then I see people like like what's this demonic hindu shit and i'm like we were this close nick fuentes is furious furious uh well you got the answer in general you know how that works about his wife and about like yeah they got like more more minority uh representation in the rnc this year for sure i don't know i don't like the white nationalism shit at all like like like my

my thoughts on that is like there's only a i don't i don't think of myself as a republican by the way just so we're clear i definitely lean conservative although we took that political test we all did and we're all like left uh left of center um quite a bit like like a deviation and uh but there's a few common sense things that irk me and like like some national defense stuff some economic stuff um and and it's it make and the cultural stuff on the left turns me off so much you know in certain places certain places of it i'm like, I feel like I'm a liberal socially. I really, I really do. But, but then like, I see some of the wilder stuff and I'm like, man, that seems evil to me. I, it seems like maybe that's genuine evil. I don't know. I'm

going to have to go with Trump on this one. Uh, and I feel like we, if we could bring plenty of Brown people and black people over to that way of thinking. There's enough people. They just need good ideas and to stop with the racism. Stop with the racism! Let it go! I always say, I wish you could talk to that crowd

and be like, I know we got our prejudices. You like the people in your town. You like the people from your state. You like the people from your town. You like the people from your state. You like the people from your country. But imagine if a green motherfucker landed in Kansas. You don't think the Russians would be over here shoulder to shoulder with us killing green motherfuckers? Do green guys talk on their cell phone speaker phones all the time? Do they communicate telepathically?

Do the worst. They believe in late-term abortion. I don't care about that. It's mostly the cell phone on speakerphone at restaurants and stuff like that. They do that. They play music. They play music. Do they have dogs worse than pit bulls on Planet Zepton that they're bringing over?

Oh, I see where we're going. Do they work out in the front yard? Oh, shit. Dick can say that. He's Mexican. Would you acknowledge... You talked about the culture war stuff. Would you acknowledge that...

And we can talk about left-leaning rhetoric whenever you want, but would you acknowledge that some of the rhetoric about left-leaning people has gone beyond insane? It's a mainstream position now. Give me an for example i can give you many uh it is now a mainstream position in the republican party to believe that democrat the median democratic

voter believes in murdering a baby after birth they call it a post-birth abortion or it is now a median uh republican voter position to assume that most Democratic voters want to mutilate and sexually abuse children, certainly all of the queer community. More often than not. I mean, more often than not. I mean, if we want to get into more wonky stuff, it's now a median right-wing position that Democratic voters want to intentionally allow millions of people into the country so they can we can reshape the electorate for example like great replacement theory kind of yeah i believe that that's true yeah that's just true okay i mean yeah i don't know i don't i don't understand how you guys like so how does the process of an illegal immigrant like i gave you two out of three man

fair but like how does that how does that actually work though like if you of an illegal immigrant... I gave you two out of three, man. Fair. But how does that actually work, though? If you're an illegal immigrant, how do you go about it? Stay home. Oh, you can't vote right away. First of all, I think that the presence of them changes the census in such a way that the congressional map, that in the House of Representatives,

they essentially get representation to some extent. So right away, they get representation, which is better than a fucking vote. It's a Democratic Republic. After that, every time I hear about a new policy that's going to give amnesty or citizenship or a path to citizenship to a group, it's from the left. Suddenly, they're like, hey, guys, how would you like to be a U.S. citizen? I know you've been living here illegally for years, feeding off the system. But, hey, just remember who brought you to the dance. You know what I mean?

The path to citizenship. That's what it feels like to me. The only conversation I hear that happening about these days is about like DACA kids. What about the Dreamers? Yeah, that's what I mean. The Dreamers. Oh, OK. I know the same thing.

Kids that were brought in, maybe they were four, maybe they were eight or whatever, and their parents brought them over. And they basically have no other national identity other than being an American. If you sent them back to their home country, many of them don't even speak the same language. This sort of thing. I know a dreamer. He's a good guy, and I really hope he gets his citizenship

because he wants to be a Trump voter. He's Muslim. Shout out to Fish. Good guy. Shout out Fish. And the Muslim Brotherhood, as he calls his gang of pals. Fish is not a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. What are you saying is wrong about replacing white people with immigrants?

Are you saying that that's not happening? Or that's not the plan? Which part of it are you saying is not the plan? I'm pushing back against the idea. Sorry, go ahead. I think I should have been quiet. He thinks the great replacement theory is asking. I'm pushing back against the idea. Sorry. Go ahead. I think I should be quiet. He thinks the great replacement theory is real. And what about that do you find to be not real? Right. Dick is saying that it's real. And what about it? Do I find. Yeah. He's like bring in everybody flying around the country to take over Republican strongholds.

Which part of that do you not. Are you saying is not true. Because the idea that like Democrats broadly or even marginally support open borders is absurd. Oh, I don't care what the average Democratic voter wants, does, or cares for. It's about the— Give me it. No, no, no. It's not about the individuals. It's about the party policy and what actually goes forward.

And it's also, moreover, I think, about the judges that are put into power for these lifelong positions and them holding those beliefs and them being loyal to if those beliefs change at the party line. If suddenly on the DNC website it says, you know, I mean, a week after birth, it's in that little box there. Technically, that is a pseudo-womb. So that pseudo-womb is a womb now. And so, yeah, you could deborder it a week after. Yeah, you could do that. The big issue with the border is that our asylum laws that were written decades ago because our asylum laws now are written in a way that anybody can show up at a port of entry and claim asylum. And they are, you know, if they meet a certain set of criteria, they are given a burner phone.

They're given sometimes ankle bracelets. They are set up with sponsors in the country. And a lot of the times, these court cases take anywhere between five and eight years. The backlog is so intense, which is why the Democrats and Republicans and the White House worked on a bipartisan immigration bill. Some of the things made some Democrats happy. Some of the things made some Republicans happy. It was endorsed by the border union. They said it's not perfect, but it's way better than what we have now. It actually put limits on our asylum system. And Donald Trump stepped in and publicly he takes credit for spiking the bill because he didn't want to give Biden a win during an election year. So it's just difficult for me to take Republicans. Wait, what was the limit, though? That's important. What was the limit on that bill? How many guys a day were they? Because I think it was like astronomical, the amount of people in the bill.

And then once it's once it's a law, it's a law. It's a lot harder to change. But there's no limit. I would have to go back into the to the specifics. I don't know what specific limits they put, but they did. They did. Very, very important. No, no, no. What they said was if if you had a seven day period where it was a border crossings average 5000 per day, if that went for seven days, it gave DH actually no 4000 at the 4000 threshold. The DHS could step in and shut the border down. Now, this is a divided government. So you're not going to get a bill that's going to make like 100 percent of Republicans.

Way too many. Can I can I jump in real quick? too many can i can i jump in real quick if i heard that five thousand if i heard that five thousand invaders were coming across the border every day i wouldn't want to send a government agency other than the marine corps like like like like what are we talking about really heard here because right now it happens so that would have immediately been triggered right now i don't know what the number is but it's more than 5,000 a day on average. The border doesn't remain totally secured. They were saying if we- Biden didn't EO. He didn't EO recently and dropped it down to 2,000.

You're right. You're right. But in the bill- Only 500, I think. In the bill, it was like, hey, if we get too many, we lock down this hecking border and we're done. And Trump was like, nope, spike the bill. He's like, you don't want solutions? Probably because he wanted the border shut down so nobody could just flee over with ridiculous claims of asylum from countries that are not going through wars he would it be harder to reverse the law once it exists or start from scratch when you become president which one would be harder he just so transparently did it for political reasons it had nothing to

do with like he didn't want to give biden a win and they like this crazy that the two guys who don't like trump see it the exact same way don't you think it's yeah that's wild the bill was in part the main crafter of the bill on the senate was lankford who's like this giant maga guy he was this trump endorsed guy he's not some likeino. And he proudly stood by that bill. I mean, what do you what sort of a bill do you guys expect to see in a divided government? Like, don't you understand? We're about to solidify it, though, right? Compromised, right? It will be divided next year. I mean, if we were a serious country, we wouldn't allow people to invade at all. First of all, I think that Biden is doing a bigger disservice to america representative

democracy and our way of life than trump ever can by what he's doing right now and like throwing this race so hard and throwing the whole ticket so hard he is about to send us into a world where trump where trump has absolute power like he has the supreme he's going to have the supreme court the senate the house and he's going to be the goddamn president. And he might just start. He could do so many things to legally keep staying. He could do so many things to white people. He really could.

What if he did this? And I'm just off the top of my head. What if he sets up some bullshit tribunal in Congress, his Congress, and they have a trial and they determined that that last election was stolen, that it was stolen and that he's entitled to four more years because technically he's won three elections and they stamp it and it goes to the Supreme Court and they stamp it. And Trump says, here we fucking go. The rest, you know what? And the end of that four years, are you, do you, what do you want?

Some more Trump? And everyone says, yes, sir. Yes, sir. He's going to step aside. Like I hope so.

God, I hope so. He reached the final boss, the Eldon beast of the democratic party apparatus. Obama leaked to the press today that he privately is pushing for Biden to drop out. And so I would be sure. Can I add to that? That makes,

that makes the list. This Obama shift, Pelosi and Schumer are calling for him to step down. And Raskin. And Raskin. Okay, and Raskin. I didn't know that one. That's like all the heads in the party. Yeah, but did you hear Biden big-dicked it?

And he's like, I don't even know who you people are. I already stole one election. Give me a drink, boy. I never met that guy. Well, it's a pretty fascinating palace intrigue because like the the friendship that he has with obama is not it's not really a friendship like um he you know obama famously like uh sort of convinced him to not get in the race in 2016 and obama i'm glad you brought it out of what's in my notes but okay that is why he won't leave that is what he won't leave it's

over here written uh that is why biden is not going to drop out in my opinion because the last time he did he listened to barack obama he he didn't he didn't uh run um because the sun was dead 2016 hillary runs she loses trump takes over we get the trump presidency and i'm sure we can all imagine how regardless of how we feel about it biden feels so much worse about it and everything that happened during. He hates Trump way more than any of us. He has to.

He knows him. So I think now he's looking at Obama and he's like, if he's cogent, he might start telling that story about his legs in the pool in the water. Who knows? Biden is absolutely going to drop out.

Biden himself hasn't been making decisions. We got to start putting some bets on this then because I think he's staying. I know a guy, a robot in our Discord. He's got $1,000 that Biden will be the nominee. It only pays back $500. $1,000 to win $500.

He made the bet weeks ago, and I'm sure he's going to lose that money. He's going to lose that money. I think he's solid. It's totally untanable for him to stay in the race now like it's obvious that democratic leadership behind the scenes were trying to privately nudge him he wasn't budging and now they're all leaking to the press they're doing it publicly and it's just it's impossible for him to like the ads write themselves right now trump the trump campaign and all the trump support uh supporting super

packs or whatever they're all crafting ads saying he's lost the faith of his own congress and his own his own party oh i thought you're gonna say yeah trump took a bullet this is this is him right now well they're gonna do that the kung flu he's somewhere hiding out in delaware but in the background you hear well they're already showing in a hospital bed all decrepit. But they, you know, the main bosses of the Democratic Party have, you know, they've forced the issue. They realized they couldn't effectively hide his condition anymore. And now it's just beyond the pale. And so they need him to step down.

the pale and so they need him to step down like all of these people now who are calling for him to step down have known he's been a senile old man for years not pulling any levers just waking up and eating ice cream and letting the people around him make decisions oh i've got another thought i got another thought i bet he'd intended to to pardon his son and that is so important to the wife and is and and so important to him that they can't i bet that's part of it i bet that's part of it i don't think he's going anywhere and zach zach what do you want to bet ten dollars i'll do ten dollars with you five dollars whatever you want like we'll do that that i say biden stays in this race he's running it through we'll just do even money if that's fine with you ten is fine deal yeah if i just say he's the nominee why would you think he is jill give it up yeah i mean

uh what does he care if they're gonna win it'll be by stealing and cheating anyway so what would it matter if what would it matter if people are gonna vote for him or not they flew a bunch of illegals into all the towns that were on the they were at risk of losing so they could harvest their ballots and vote the airpped them in like red fucking dawn. Brown dawns. Harvest what ballots? They just get the ballot and write the new illegal on there. There's your name. Here's some goofy signature.

There you go. There you go. Count it out. Count it out, boys. I know you do elections in your state, but you can't just, don't just mail you a ballot. You have to be registered to vote and you can't register to vote if you're illiterate. There is no data to support. They've done multiple audits in multiple swing states.

Yeah, yeah. Same as the election in history. Guys shooting at the president from the top of a building 100 feet away. Nobody has ever established any kind of outcome determinative voter fraud. It's never happened. Not in a single court. You don't believe in voter fraud? You don't think there was voter fraud? It has. That's not what he said. I said outcome determinative voter fraud it's never happened not in a single court you don't believe in voter fraud you don't think there was it has that's not what he said i said hutch i have an

example of it happening voter fraud yes it happened you can find individual examples sure but when we're talking about like oh god wait a minute no yeah it happened in north carolina a republican did it actually and they they messed with all the mail-in voters. It's not up to debate. His son ratted him out. He got charged. He got charged, but he was too influential and they dropped the case

so he got away with it and he's running now and he's going to win. But he did not basically they didn't let him serve his term because beyond any shadow of a doubt, he messed with the mail in voter votes. Crazy. You can you can find individual instances of voter fraud. That's not that's nobody can test that. Oh, when you said individual instances, I thought you were referring to like one person who voted. Well, no, I mean, I like hundreds of thousands of votes that were I think they i forget the mechanics of it but i think

they removed the votes they didn't like you know you know that that's less common like than somebody you know oftentimes like in florida for example a lot of people voted when they didn't even realize they couldn't vote because the law had changed and there was um there was like some law that went into effect having to do with convicted felons and so there was some mix up there but but like if you can if you do a statewide audit in a state like georgia and you find like seven instances of voter fraud what are we talking about like it's obviously not i agree with you i agree on all that they did a recount they didn't they did three recounts in georgia and one and one of the recounts was nothing every single recount is not an audit to dick's point yeah

it's just counting recount is just you're not actually auditing. He lost it, though. Trump fucking lost, man. Yeah. I don't know. I just want to know if you guys think that 2020 election was real. Yeah, I do. Yeah, I do.

Of course it was real. Everybody knows it was real. Of course it was real. 81 million votes for that guy? Okay. What is your actual evidence? 81 million votes against Trump. What is your actual evidence? 81 million votes against Trump. What is your actual evidence that it's not real?

Not being a huge retard is my evidence. Are you fucking kidding me? Wait, wait, wait. There's no cheating at all. This is all legit. All these millions of people are totally just obeying the law. Then the next day they go back to stealing bikes. Your personal feelings don't matter to me.

I'm asking you, what is your actual evidence that there was massive voter fraud? Not being a huge retard. That's my evidence. So you have not. Do you want me to do? Oh, FBI. Can I get some of that evidence that you guys stole the election? OK, so if Joe Biden stays the nominee and he loses in November and then he goes to court in all seven swing states and he fails to establish fraud in every single case that he does, which are dozens of court cases. They all get thrown out.

And let's say he asks Kamala Harris to accept false slates of electors, and she does. And she says, you know what? I'm going to certify these. Are you going to be OK with that? Well, that's illegal now. It is the exact same situation. Are you talking about fake electors now? I'm talking about just straight ballot fraud.

These are all interlinked he made different cases in different states alleging different kinds of fraud he never established fraud in a single case so like i think one for you to just say like any of them literally there were over 60 cases and none of them came back and told him you have demonstrated number one many of them were uh dismissed on standing which means he couldn't even establish harm. He couldn't even establish that a party was harmed. Oh, that's crazy. The court said he didn't do anything wrong? Oh, man.

I totally believe that. They were his own judges in many cases. People he put on there. Yes, his own Supreme Court even. I mean, like, what is your actual evidence that there was widespread voter fraud? Just, like, having my eyes open and looking at, like, how voting voting is done it's just a buy much

just mailing ballots around and these are not just total bullshit like okay man what are you well how much how much more looking into it do you want people to do none it would be one thing if you if you if you pointed to a bunch of people looking into something and they came back with evidence. But that didn't happen. And now you're just saying, like, well, I have a brain. And so obviously I know that it happened. Yeah. It's such a difficult position right now.

Sending ballots through the mail is obviously bullshit. I feel like I've been in this spot so many times. Hold on a second. How about one audit? One audit. They did audits. They did vote audits they did recounts a recount is more extensive than an audit an audit is when you look at like 10 000 votes or whatever and then you you extrapolate from that a recount is no yeah

yeah every count because i remember this news cycle being huge yeah trump yeah recounting is just recounting all the same ballots what was it new mexico where did i mean we can get into that cyber ninjas to look into it obvious it's obvious that the machines are bogus there's none of its track you wouldn't trust a bank with the kind of bullshit dominion hardware that they're using it's obviously bullshit they ought to be around is obviously stupid there was the whole thing about the bamboo ballots they found that wasn't true there was the whole thing about the corrupt machines that wasn't true this was the machines that nothing would team that trump hired

came back and said trump was wrong what more do you want it netted biden more votes he got ended up with more votes in arizona after the audit so like i'm sorry if you're if you're going to allege like i don't know i think it's kind of serious to to cast doubt on elections to the extent that millions of americans like literally lose faith in the democratic process that's a really bad road to go down for obvious reasons and you just need more than just like oh i have common sense like didn't you just just to be fair like you said trump was like a russian stooge for like years and that the 2016 one wasn't legitimate wait a second i never said that uh votes were altered in 2016. i made a video that i got so much for the next day and told my audience stop saying trump is not your president he got elected this

is reality and we should learn from this moment and move on. I never said that. Okay, but you're saying that casting doubt is dangerous, and that's what you did for a long time, right? By saying that it was Russian. Not in the electoral process, just in the morals and the fact that Trump, Putin might have on him. Come on, let's be fair. That's not what he's saying. And we all know Trump lost. I never cast a doubt in the process of know counting votes what happened in 2016 is trump got up there like let me just ask you if hillary clinton in 2016 would have gotten up there and said hey iran can you look for uh trump's emails and i'm sure the press will reward you mightily

and then yeah i'm cool with that yeah i'm cool with that i'm saying you guys you guys would have been like okay this is fucking bullshit but that's's different from saying like, Russia's... No, no, I like that. No, if it went the other way, if Joe Biden was like, hey, Venezuela, I know y'all have a team that's in the know. If you find any of those Trump pee-pee tapes... Right-wingers would lose their mind if he did that. They would absolutely lose their shit. I don't care what they think. Which is why lefties lost their shit in 2016.

I want the truth. And if it comes from Russia or or iran or china if they've got some truth to share who are we to say shut up china don't talk bad about joe biden like no tell me what what happened what we're saying you guys think those dominion machines are good with no audits every every party every party every party's voters that lose elections every single time they say the fucking voting machines were fucked up every single it happens literally every single it happened 2000 2004 2000 it's the same thing why do we use like digital machines why don't we just use like uh like paper like like most countries i think or like audit don't we have 150 million pieces of paper to count

oh if only we were the most powerful country to ever exist we could handle that count how can we recount then i mean based on a youtube video i saw and it should be fine with them getting rid of voting machines but it would take a lot longer to count and the last time we had an election people flipped out because they were still counting votes you know three days later yeah donald trump simultaneously telling some states to stop counting and then telling other states to continue counting. Like, the whole thing was absurd. He knows how to win.

Absolutely absurd. So how many of the votes were bogus? How many of the votes in the last election were bad? 1%, 2%? No, bro. Like,.00001% is what they found. There's that being retarded again. All the votes were good?

Show me your evidence. Are you insane? What is your actual evidence beyond use your brain? Have you ever voted? You just go there, say whatever you want, and then go in there. Yeah, yeah, here you go. There's my vote. You handed it to the dumbest people you'll ever meet.

So you have no evidence, to be clear. I see my neighbor there every time. There's no evidence of any evidence of security. You actually have to prove a chain of like provenance to do anything else except vote to do anything all right all right we've been we've been arguing about whether the election was still or not for a while now and i think we all can all agree and i've got bits and pieces of it from my end like i want to talk about this election i all like it was so funny like hutch was about to launch

into something and I'm like, oh I'm interested in what he has to say here, and he's like, and the thing is I want to talk about this election, I'll kick it off I think you're counting your chickens before your hatch I'm glad you said that, because I wanted to take a quick vote before we go any further. Who thinks Trump has it in the bag and it's game over? No, no chance. Just me? Oh, wrong.

I need a less confident option. If you said who thinks Trump is more likely to win, I might have raised my hand. Invincible. Invincible. Okay, I'm not with you. Invincible. All Alright, so let me just lay the case out really quickly. His base is incredibly galvanized right now. They are pumped. I wasn't

joking. The RNC, everybody's like, the hand of God came down and changed the future for you. Don't take it for granted. And they're wearing bandages on their fucking ears. Okay? The right is going to vote. The left's vote is an anti-Trump vote,

not a pro-Biden vote. And all Biden has done for months is diminish at that and chip away at that. And if this is all taking place within the bubble of this inflation that my generation has never experienced before, that we didn't know could happen. You're watching the money, your dollar

bills are literally like turning to powder in your hands when you're paying for $8 bacon. It's crazy. They made fun of Trump for talking about expensive bacon. He was like, I can't even afford it anymore. No more. I told him no more bacon. And they're like, Trump rambles about bacon during unhinged remarks in Iowa. I can't imagine a... First of all, my opinion is that Joe Biden is going to stay in the race. He's going to be the nominee.

So I'm operating under that. The fact that y'all aren't, I guess... Then your prediction might be in trouble because Joe Biden is the most popular president in American history. Yeah. Ah, according to Jill Biden. 600 million people.

And his lawyer. He got more black people. He turned out more black people than Obama either time. Not this time. Trump is going to have record numbers with minorities, with black voters, with brown voters,

especially from the Muslim community that don't like quote-unquote genocide Joe. And even if those people don't come out, hold their nose and vote Trump, they're certainly not going to come out and have a pro-Biden vote because that guy's allowing, facilitating the genocide of their people as far as their perspective goes. So you can't get them to even think about voting for this guy.

And I think that that's going to go far and wide. I don't think that Trump's going to win New York, like some people are saying that he's going to contest New York and stuff like that. I think he's going to win New Hampshire, though. I think it's going to be a shit storm. I think it's going to be 310 to 320 electoral votes for Trump. $10 bet on New Hampshire. It goes blue.

You say it goes red? I mean, that would be a smart bet for you. I don't say it goes red. mean that would be a smart bet for you i don't say it goes red that's why i'm proposing it have you looked by the way trump's in the head trump's ahead in the registered voter polls there the most recent ones like it doesn't matter you haven't considered the 3 a.m voter all 10 million of them i thought we were moving on we We are moving on. It was a quick aside. It's fun. I'm so glad that I'm the one who is going to be seen as the visionary. When people look back on this episode, they'll see me surrounded, but undeterred.

There's this experiment, there's this social experiment where they put eight guys in a room and seven of them are actors and one of them is the actual participant. And in order, they asked them them are these lines the same length and they're not it's different linked lines and all seven in a row say yes same yes same they they ignore reality and 30 35 of the time the eighth guy will say yeah fuck my reality y'all i'm with y'all but if you have just one, just one person in that chain of seven to disagree, it drops down to 5%. Suddenly this person's willing to hop on somebody else's ship because they can see that island in the sea.

You're a patriot and I love it. Come on, boys. The island's safe. Okay, it's warm. Trump's got this locked up. Go to every single swing state. Use whatever polling you want. I prefer registered voters because those are the guys who are up for it. Pennsylvania, Wisconsin,

New Hampshire, Georgia, Florida, Ohio. Virginia's not that far out of reach. Biden's, of course, leading Virginia by two or three, but it's going to be one of those too close to call folks. The state of Virginia, it's going to be neck and neck. And also down ballot races are obviously super important. More important than the presidency. The best, we'll say just as important, but like the best the Democrats can do in the Senate is 50-50. The West Virginia seat is fucking gone.

And so it's down to Ohio and- The West Belt. Michigan, Minnesota. No, no, no. The only two Senate races right now that are truly competitive are Ohio and Montana. And if the Democrats can win, Democrats of the rest of the country are well overperforming Biden, like by 8 to 12 points. It's crazy how much they're overpolling from him. But if Democrats can hold those two states, then they can keep it 50-50. by eight to 12 points it's crazy how much they're over they're over pulling from him but the

democrats can hold those two states then they can keep it 50 50 but but that won't matter because trump will be president he'll have the the vp will have the vote well that's why that's that's why they want that's why pelosi and them want biden to step aside is because they're seriously worried about his uh him dragging down ballot candidates which is yeah obviously real concern he's been trending in the wrong direction since the debate it's why i say joe biden is a bigger threat to democracy than donald trump ever could be with but by by this this this this arrogant fucking nonsense that he's pulling right now like i'm big boy joe and i know better than all of you and anyone 65 of my party polled right now thinks that I should drop out. 65% of my party, and yet no, I'm in there. He's sick right now with COVID somewhere,

and he still sees a way out? I want to pierce this balloon. I need a chance to reply. After the RNC, John McCain was leading. After the RNC, Mitt Romney was leading. After the DNC, Hillary Clinton was leading. The fact that you are having a good time right now at this moment where everything is going Trump's way, and he's leading by what nationally? 2%, 3%? That's not a lot. This contest is still on.

We don't do a popular vote, and Donald Trump just took a bullet to the head. So another thing to consider is that's going to motivate his voters. Joe's in Trump just took a bullet to the head. So another thing to consider. Joe's in bed. Joe's in bed. Donald got shot in the head. That's what happened this week. I don't interfere with your Republican on Republican violence.

I blame your video games and your culture. I mean, I think the guy maybe played Rust. He was a roof camper. That's my theory on this whole thing. But it had nothing to do with us. So another thing to consider he donated to get out for vote blue and it's not even an argument uh another thing that is true is like i don't think you should ignore the polls and i especially don't think you should

ignore trends like there's a lot of like uh like insanely pro-biden twitter accounts that are just full-on copium they only point to the polls that have him up like plus one and ignore all the rest that have them down like five or six is i think it is fair to point out though that number one uh the the polls in michigan wisconsin and pennsylvania are within the margin of error and if biden can win all three of those he does win the presidency assuming he stays in which he won't. And number two, the polls have been underselling Democrats since the Dobbs decision. There was a red wave predicted in 2022. The most projections had Republicans winning anywhere between a 25 and a 35 seat majority, if I recall correctly. That didn't pan out. We've seen Democrats overperforming in special elections,

not just in specific enclaves of the country, but all over the country. I don't think you should hang your hat on that and ignore the trends. But I think there is some reason to be dubious in this spot. I just want to get a count real quick. Who? Kyle is the only one who thinks Joe is going to still be the guy. You think he's going to stay? Yeah, I think he's going to stay in. You think he's going to stay? Yeah. I think he's going to be forced out. And Hutch, Woody, you both think Biden's going to be forced out?

For Kamala? He's gone. He's gone. Yeah, and Kamala will probably take over. I think it won't be Biden. Below confidence. Didn't he openly say, like... You're going to run an Indian lady against a guy with an Indian wife?

I'm hoping it's Whitmore. Those cancel out. That's crazy. That cancels out. If you're Whitmore, would you say yes? I mean, I feel like if you's Whitmore. Those cancel out. That's crazy. That cancels out. If you're Whitmer, would you say yes? I mean, I feel like if you're Whitmer, if you're Newsome, if you're Buttigieg or whatever, and you have these larger aspirations for the presidency.

Please run Buttigieg. Why would you not wait until 2028? I mean, it's just so risky. Because if you swing once and miss, it's really difficult to come back from that. I follow a lot of sports. And one of the major points of winning the championship is getting to the championship. And I feel like they're offering her a seat at the finals. You say no to that?

Against Trump? Trump sucks. The only person Trump can beat in an election is Hillary Clinton so far. Trump lost to Biden hiding in the basement while Trump went out there and lost the election on himself. People are like, I can't believe Biden got 81 million votes. Biden got like 1 million votes. And then there were 80 million against Trump.

Yes, yes. So then why would Biden drop out then if they're just voting against Trump? Because two out of three Democratic voters want him gone, including a plurality of black voters. It's like his and independent voters, it's like 70% want him gone. It's just of black voters it's like it's his and independent voters it's like 70 percent want him gone it's just all so it wasn't about trump no wait what when you asked the first time the one the election you stole that wasn't just voting against trump it doesn't matter who he's running against they're just gonna vote against him again right

the election the election that biden won was not enthusiasm for biden he has never had a cult of personality like obama or clinton or jfk or whatever he was seen as this like or trump to that for that matter it was people were way more engaged with politics because they were spending way more time indoors and spending way more time on social media and uh there was a huge huge influx of voters that were disgusted with trump um that's what happened so he's just like it's just not, it's just not going to, it's not the same. It's a totally different dynamic now, which is why he needs, in my opinion, he needs to step aside. Well, he also needs to step aside,

not just because of the polling, because he's a senile old man and he has been for years. And it's wild to see the pivot from the media who just until a week ago was calling people conspiracy theorists for pointing out that this guy can't find his way up an airplane flight of stairs and he's walking around with Mr. fucking Burns hands and then suddenly it's like the media says one thing about it and everyone's like oh okay

we've been given permission to talk about this yeah he's the Seattle man who here thinks Biden has a degenerative neural disorder of some kind a parkinson's s thing 100 okay yeah it's okay you don't touch i have not seen evidence i mean i'm not a parkinson's expert i mean he's a 81 year old man and i've for all intents and purposes he's aging like a normal 81 year old man the problem is you know there's a lot of a lot of people like Taylor that think he's literally senile, whatever. I mean, my opinion aside, there's just a lot of people that think that. And a lot of people have concerns that he

can't serve a second term. And my grandparents are about 81 and they are not senile. And so they don't behave like Biden does. They can hold conversations with you. They don't get randomly angry when it gets to be nighttime. They don't sundowning which is a sign of dementia where they become irritable and extremely tired like like i think woody was talking about a parkinson's expert who finally you know got on the news and they were like hey it's okay to notice this now and he's like oh okay good yeah this guy has fucking parkinson's i saw about a 10 minute video from a Parkinson's expert. So now I am also a Parkinson's expert. And Woody saw that video. And so now I am a Parkinson's expert. But actually, I could send you the video, Hutch. It was incredibly influential on me. I know,

right? But if you saw it, I think you'd be like, oh, this guy. I'm open-minded to stuff i'm just i'm not a neurological expert and i've i've been around somebody in close proximity who had full-on dementia it looked nothing like this i mean just nothing like it so i i but i also have a friend who i have also have a friend who works in hospice and he says he sees parkinson's all the time and he says when he looks at biden he thinks parkinson's so i'm okay i'm just one of the things this guy talked about was not just the mental stuff, which is what we're focused on in this conversation, the physical stuff, his gate, his physical, the way

that he shuffles, the way that he walks without swinging his hands, the way that he turns, you know, if I were to you, if I Yeah, that's actually true. If I were to say, Hey, Hutch, you probably turn your upper body and look at me quickly. If I said, Hey, Joe, he'd pivot his whole body and shift towards me. And he, the, one of the things he said, I don't know why it hit me so hard is he's like, I could diagnose this guy from across the mall. Now I am an expert in swimming. If I see a guy take two strokes, I can tell you his level of swim competence and experience and uh i had this experience where i had a plantar fantasia it's probably my foot i went to an orthopedic surgeon he had me walk like three strides and he could see what was up like he

instantly understood i thought my gait was fairly normal but to him it stuck out like a sore thumb so to see a subject matter expert look at how this guy moves and say it couldn't be more obvious, I was like, oh, damn. Well, he's clearly he's clearly diminished substantially since 2020. I mean, if you want to blow your mind even more, go back to 2012 debate with with with Paul Ryan. It's just he did not stutter at all. He was just he was very cogent. And I thought Paul Ryan won that when i watched it and i may have been really biased at the time but i but i was like incensed that they had given it to joe biden i was like what are you talking about i don't even remember the substance of it

but as far as his dementia like i just think it's he they do that so they do that thing where they take things out of context these little blurbs where someone gets a name wrong sometimes they used to do that and i'd be like i'd roll my eyes like come on like focus on his actual flaws don't just cut this thing and make it look like he said the wrong thing he was telling a joke or he was riffing or he was quoting you know and you make it seem like he's saying the thing i hate that and at first i thought that was happening to joe biden mostly and it was kind of funny and like yeah he is an old light guy with a stutter. He does have a speech impediment, but the thing is he keeps calling people the wrong names that are his close

like group. It'd be like me getting you guys names wrong right now when, and I've got notes in my hands that have your names on them. You know, he keeps getting them wrong and he'll be like, ah, you caught me at a bad time next week. I'm talking to Lester holt and i'll be able to tell names again gooder he said gooder and the scrutiny and the scrutiny since the debate has been so much more intense so like

i'll tell you from the perspective of someone who's been like a tireless biden soldier on the front lines of the digital fucking political arena because i do like his policies i do like his administration's decisions which is just all that matters to me i i gotta tell you like from my perspective i'm just i'm like the big black man at the end of the green mile i'm just tired i'm just tired so like every time every time he gets in front of a microphone now you know like to to setting aside his policies which again i like it's just it's just anxiety inducing every time he speaks now and then so i'm just i'm ready to i you know i realize it's a thing to have kamala take over but i'm glad you like that guy except you're injecting poison into

america instead of taking it out all right let's go back and true one not so true so true wouldn't you guys say that that uh all the dementia stuff aside this is more about just like people that are ideologically entrenched like if your guy was uh speaking the way that same the the same way that biden was speaking you would still vote for him because you would like policies you would like the administration blah blah blah the moment no money the moment trump stops being funny, the moment Trump stops being funny, when the crowd starts laughing at him instead of with him, that's the moment it breaks for me. And that's when he goes from...

Hold on, Dick. You would vote for Joe Biden over Donald Trump? No, I just wouldn't vote. I never voted before Trump. I wouldn't vote again. I fucking hate Republicans. I hate Trump's entire staff. Maybe you're not the best person to ask.

Maybe you're not the best person to ask then. Woody's the closest here to a traditional Yeah, but I'm the voter that you need. You have to get the guys who don't vote. No, Taylor is. I'd never voted for a Republican. I fucking hate Republicans too.

Last 10 years, Woody. I'm sorry. You notice Taylor's slow shift to the right the last decade and my slow shift to the left? I noticed Taylor's shift farther to the right. Further. You have always been a little more of a right-hander. I think a lot of people just moved left.

You were pro-life. I'm definitely. Oh, yeah, that's true. Pro-choice, you mean? I did say definitely oh yeah that's true pro-choice you mean i did say it backwards he was previously pro-choice and now he's pro-life yeah sorry well see cutting in someone's talking right now yeah i've definitely moved to the right on some stuff like abortion for like my mid-20s i was one of those like that is a big one and i was like someone who was pro needing abortions out of personal convenience of like oh yeah i wouldn't want to deal with that they should do

and then i kind of more of those people now i'm more anti-abortion like i'm pro life and that i think it's wrong and i don't i don't like it like and so i I would rather not see abortions happen. I volunteer at the clinic. Interesting. No, you do not. It's a fucking gas. You don't even know. This one lady, she's got a punch card.

She loves it. She says it feels good. I'm telling you, these lefties, that's how they are. They'll get pregnant for the thrill, the thrill of the kill of going to Planned Parenthood. Some of these women on the left, they get a bloodlust in the tailor. As the only person here who's actually

raised children, I think I'm the one who's qualified to say abortion should be legal up through their teenage years. Sorry. A boo. No, that's already the democrat's position didn't you know that we already believe that um it is no i don't believe they're fighting for out there get out and vote you know yeah i think like half of abortions are the are the pill you know like like i think

that um i just think that if you you need some limits on it, and I felt when Biden wouldn't speak out, say anything, the question was like, do you support late term abortion? And God, you got to find a way to say no to that and then appease your group, Joe. Instead, he's like, I support Roe v. Wade. In the first trimester, it was from a woman and her doctor. in the first trimester it was from a woman and her doctor in the second and more serious case the woman and a and another doctor and her family and and like he trails off and gets fucking lost it's like trump was like this guy wants to kill babies babies crawling in the crib he wants to snatch him up crawling in the crib and he wants to grab him joe biden baby grabber the whole the whole thing is stupid.

99% of abortions take place before the first 16 months. It's less than 1% of homicides. 16 months? See? I told you, folks. Punch is on my side now. Four-month-old babies. I keep doing that, dude. I do that all the time. It's not a fucking giraffe.

It's like 99% occur in the first 16 weeks. It's less like 99% occur I think in the first six 16 weeks um and it's less than 1% occur that in the third trimester if if a woman is has carried a fetus to term to the ninth month it's quite obviously that that the case that if they're getting an abortion there's something going on the fetus is not viable poses a threat to the mother and it's a horrific situation that we have a situation now where in like two dozen states, women are literally waiting

in the parking lot of hospitals until they go into sepsis because the laws are written. Like every single abortion ban has exceptions for the life of the mother, I believe, but they're written so vaguely that none of these doctors

want to take the risk of saying, well, this is a direct threat to the mother's life. They have to wait until there's actually a threat that manifests. And this is just something that's wildly out there. That'll be the next thing on Twitch, by the way. If you show up in an emergency room and your life is at risk, they have to serve you, right?

That's what they're waiting on. They have to wait until it's an immediate risk. They have to wait. So the threat of sepsis is not enough. That'd be a great Twitch stream, right? Like, imagine her in her car. The threat of thempsis is not enough. That'd be a great Twitch stream, right? Imagine her in her car. The threat of a pregnant woman pulling into a parking lot. Did you know that the average woman is too fat now for Plan B to be effective?

Did you guys know that? That is something that I learned from Dick. I learned from you on Twitter. See, this is where Dick and Woody are the most natural alliance. It's important. You know how many fat girls you have to raw dog to just know that off the cuff, Dick? Jesus Christ. The only person I know who hates fat people as much as Woody is Dick.

Yeah. He hates fat women. Someone will be like, there's murders happening. Gun violence is out of control. And Dick's quote tweet will be like, the average woman's weight is 181 pounds. I don't give a fuck about anything until this is solved. Holy shit, is that true? It's something like that.

And I know that- It ain't 180, bro. No, it's like 174.6 or something like that. Man, that's a big gal. I bet a lot of them are those UFC fighters. That's who you want around Trump. You want Lizzo's and her big girls as the secret service around Trump, not that little tinkerbell that they have.

Zach, throw up Shane Gillis' sister. I get a laugh every time I see that shit. You know, I saw some more video today of Trump arriving to the local hospital or whatever to get checked out, and Shane Gillis' sister is outside the car again, and she still can't get her pistol in her holster. She's punked. There she is. Yeah, I need is yeah right there

lizzo and all her big girls oh you know is this the a team we've got here kimberly and i want to reply to that kyle i have a bit of a leftist position on this so so i think we'll find common ground that that fucking fatty over there shouldn't be doing that job. So like, let's take that and, and agree. Um, but I do think those two women in particular have been singled out as if they're the cause of the security breach. And I even, I found myself, I didn't hard scope any of the boys to see if they did a good job, but I did hard scope both of the women to see if they belong there. And I judged one maybe in the other. No, that was Zach. I'm sending you the picture of the women to see if they belong there and i judged one maybe and the other no that that was zach i'm sending you the picture of the lady not doing her job okay um talking about the

one that couldn't put the gun in the holster i know there's an edited version of that video i haven't seen the unedited like i haven't known i don't know we throw that one up i mean i think it's clear that she was having trouble getting it back on the holster yeah the reason people are pointing out that stuff is because of the head of the um secret services previous comments about dei and trying to get the number of female agents in the agency up to 30 from 24 um and her that was a big part of her i mean it's a quote and so then you look and you see a gunman climbing onto a building there's video of him an hour there before scoping the place out in the background there's two minutes um of of people going there's a guy right there they're on camera they're filming the bat the

sniper they're like he's there he's there he's got a gun then they send fucking andy griffith up the ladder dude points the gun at him and andy falls off the ladder and hurts himself during the time trump was being shot yes during the time trump is being shot and fucking barney fife is laying on the ground with his ankle sprained having a boo-boo you know that building that he shot off you know what was inside of it can anyone guess secret service guy a team of secret service snipers were inside the building. They asked Kimberly, hey, why wasn't the team on the building or maybe pointing out the windows or something?

She's like, that roof is so slanted. It was not. Look at the roof behind Trump. It's a peak. It's like a barn peak. And the guys up there are like a badass. Those two look like they knew what they were doing. Wait, are you being serious right now? Are you yeah that the building has secret service in it yeah i've

heard that inside of it i think that's either inside confirmed and the only the only like it's either in the building the guy was on top of or you can tell there's they're connected with a very short walkway of maybe eight feet to another identical building they may have been in that building it's one or the other that's the the like a hundred percent truth of the matter. I want to lay out the point I was getting to, which is everyone, including me, hard scope these girls to see if they were doing a good job.

But I think the actual like place that went wrong was someone above them. Like someone who decided that that roof didn't need to be taken care of. That's Iranian death threat, upgraded. I know. So the person at the very, very top of this this person at the very very top of the secret service i'm willing to look at her right that that seems like something went wrong there she didn't put the right people on the case and i don't know who was in charge of that day but we should be looking at that guy or girl

wait wasn't it also the case that the local p fucked up as well? Yeah, yeah, 100%. But my argument to that would be still going after Kimberly and the Secret Service. And they've been so incompetent here that it makes it appear to conspiracy theorists that it's set up. And I don't believe in most conspiracy theories because you need too many smart people to keep a lie. And that's so hard to do it just doesn't work most of the time what came out did you see what came out they eventually cracked the kid's phone and they discovered that he was looking up uh the fbi did director ray came out and said he was looking up images of both biden and trump he was looking up uh event dates for

both candidates and he was also googling major depressive order which is like this is usually the case so people immediately want to assume that there's some like ideological motive to these things but when you think there's zero the reagan assassination thing he was trying to impress like jody foster and and it i mean it appears that this kid might have been motivated by just a sense of like fame to get go out go out banging yeah did you see his message on steam or whatever it was like tomorrow is my debut or some shit like that oh keep confirmed it was like yeah i heard that was not true i don't know i don't know if you're reported widely i i think i'm 100 on this like i mean super widely so go back to that picture that's that's important stuff so what was that exactly so in the bottom left that remote control that's like that that's

they're saying was a detonator that he was going to use to set off the explosives that supposedly were in his car. It's not like a... I don't recognize that as a detonator, but that's what it's being used as. It's from some other electronic... It's actually in a nest. Is that an iPhone?

I don't know. I have no idea. It's a phone. It's his phone. Maybe a Samsung. It's either samsung or iphone can you imagine being the being the guy to pull that battery out of that thing just think it's so scary it's being like oh that is what sucks about the whole thing because if it really was incompetence they boy did they fuel just the worst conspiracy theories with that yeah I don't think it's a setup unless you think the setup was them saying

here Kyle the gaming thing wasn't true send the B team and actually send half the B team I think that could have been done I don't think you're going to get a secret service agent to do anything other than their fucking job though man woman or child I saw people saying that I saw some people trying to latch

on to like iran doing it and like maybe i just have too much faith in iran as a country but there is no fucking way iran sends this retard to shoot a political minute like there's there's no way there's no way two minutes It just doesn't make sense. It seems to be breaking news that now that's not his Steam account. Thank you, Woody. Oh, wow. Yeah, Zach, I've seen a lot of people call him retardy Oswald, and I've liked that.

I've got a picture of his head shot, but I don't think we should show that. I sent it to you guys on WhatsApp. You did, and I couldn't tell if that was... You didn't like that? 100%. That was a real picture? that was you didn't like that 100 that was a real picture yeah i don't like that there were some really wild uh stuff that came out where it was revealed that trump had a um and i'm sure all candidates have databases or whatever the trump campaign the trump campaign had a database of voters where they had profiled voters in like various states and his dad had a profile and they like they had like a in various states and his dad had a profile. They had a numerical scoring

system and this dad apparently scored 99.5% on this Republican-O-meter. They gave him strong marks for being a hunter, a gun advocate, and a Republican voter. He had Trump signs in his backyard. If this guy's a loser teenager, his dad being a

hardcore Trump guy makes it seem like he'd like Trump less, doesn't he? He hates his dad, so he's guy makes it seem like he'd like trump less doesn't it yeah he hates his dad so he's taking it out on the whole country again there's just no indication that this was yet that this was politically motivated there's just i don't think there is a republican president yeah but he means pretty good indicator my take on this lots of people hate pedophiles it might have been that it might have been his He did try to kill a Republican presidential nominee. He did try to kill Trump. He did try to kill Trump. Lots of people hate pedophiles. It might have been that.

It might have been his ride on Epstein. It might have been the Epstein call-out. You guys don't think it's politically motivated again, huh? The guys who hate Trump? Whoa! Shocker! The people who go into the backstage of the Miss Teen USA podcast and brag about it on how it's good.

Guys, he just tried to kill the Republican president. It might not be politically motivated at all. There's a lot of things to dislike about Trump. We don't know. I know because I'm not a retard. The guy who tried to kill Reagan did it because he was literally trying to impress Jodie Foster.

Man, I wish I could hear all this. I would punch on this one. This is so gay. foster man i wish i could hear all this listen it could be the fact that he was radicalized to the left and you know became a progressive in like seven months or whatever and then hates his dad or whatever maybe maybe but like we there's just no information right now to suggest that look at his arms he's got little noodle arms there's some fucking liberals how much more evidence do you need god damn it he was a member can't argue with that check me a damn it dick you've done it his former classmates describe him as a uh a staunch

conservative i mean it's just it's just whatever but i'm not but i'm not gonna sit here and say like it's it's motivated by this or that thing. Hutch is right. And I saw that kid's guidance counselor. Political nominee is politically motivated. I saw that kid's guidance counselor. Okay, listen. He was Googling major depressive disorder.

This kid was not okay. He was just not okay. And people, when they're in that state, they just do crazy shit sometimes for no discernible reason. He could have just wanted to go out with a bang or whatever so guys i'm sucking cocks because i'm depressed not because i'm gay right you're felching okay and and and felt nothing makes you feel better yeah it's different and we all support it i don't i'd be okay with the president don't say don't say a little felch anymore i don't like. You haven't been the same since I told you about figging. While we're on the topic of pedophiles,

we've got to shift over to Dr. Disrespect a little bit, because that's somewhere we can all agree, right? Hey, if this had happened in the UK, it'd be perfectly legal. So what's the big stink? Am I right? It happened in California, where it's illegal, and I didn't like him to begin with so i said if

you buy us dr disrespect could have gotten a fucking parking ticket and woody would have been like yeah piece of shit hate him worse double parks i'm like you wait long enough and you see your enemy's bodies float down the river i have people in my chat telling me that you called this years ago or something. What's that? I had people in my chat saying, would he call this years ago? I had no idea that you had a band pick for a long time. I hope that's true.

I don't remember calling him being a cat. Whenever the ban happened, you were the one who was wanting to be like, who knows? He could have killed somebody. He could have raped a baby. Here's what I definitely did call. I know this. I said that because he was also... I was like, he did something over text. That's why Discord

got rid of him too. Isn't that wild? That's a whole other level of dirty talk we don't even know about because the shit we know about is Twitch whispers or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, we don't know what happened on Discord, if anything.

Yeah, that's great. No, I think the reporting from Slasher was that the Discord ban happened because people from Twitch had a relationship with Discord and then they shared their information. I think that's what Slasher's report said. Okay, okay. We don't know what they said on discord still is true i yeah betty said some i he said dirty stuff on discord too right right i want to see the texting

well that like twitch whispers is the only medium in which he was trying to find women to bang well guys gotta use signal i don't think we're ever true but i i don't think we're ever gonna see those whispers it was involved involved a minor and there's like i mean like it's the internet you know like you could type one sentence and people can figure out where you're who you are and where you live and so there's all kinds of reasons why we'd never see the whispers but um yeah the whole thing like the the thing the next day when he put the thing out the message out and then he edited out minor and then put it back in was just like

this is so surreal if you take minor out you gotta stick with that decision you can't drive that back into the message he was hoping that there wouldn't be a notation anymore it was becoming a secondary story that he well minor minor well i mean

she was but probably not doesn't sound good you just know he wrote that out and somebody came over his shoulder and was like oh minor let's find a colorful way are you like any euphemisms coming to mind let's let's work around and then and then he saw that it says oh you've edited this remove the word minor ah shit i told you my honesty first honey and he was insufficient person he was doing damage control most likely with like trembly fingers and butterflies in his belly just like how can i fucking minimize this he types out this tweet trying to admit to like 10 of the shit he did and then it's like oh that was still too much i guess inappropriate sexting with children is not cool so he removed the minor part and then it's like

oh now i'm busted i didn't i should have googled to see what this would be and this guy's just so fucked it's not good to fuck children the most bizarre thing from all of that old stance i know it was the juxtaposition when he got the text well we assume it was the text from um from the gaming studio or whatever when he was playing elden ring like the moment when he looks down at his phone oh my god yes and the elden ring music in the background which is somber and like and then he gets on on his uh what's what's the horse called in elden ring again um i can't remember but he gets on his horse and then he's literally just no that was um he gets on his horse and he just kept and he starts running in circles aimlessly i thought that was such a fascinating look into the psychology of somebody who's having like a horrible moment

like live world is collapsing yes yes that crazy. I know exactly what you're talking about. I didn't see the part where he was going in circles, but I did see the moment he starts reading it. He's like... It almost seems like he's playing it up. He's twitching. He starts twitching. His mustache starts

twitching around. He's got those mirrored glasses. Thank God. It must be great to hide behind those all the time, especially in a moment like that, but Jesus. around and he's just like he you know he's got those mirrored glasses thank god like like it must be great to hide behind those all the time and just especially in a moment like that but jesus i know it's hard to watch his wife stuck with him through the cheating i wonder if she knew about the intended pedophile motives like did did she also forgive that that word that word woody oh i'm sorry am i making dr disrespect look bad i think it was a girl or a little boy we think it was both my vote is both the trans what's the worst thing it could be

oh there was a child's opinion is that he is technically a bebophile or whatever and thus it's okay a hebephile get it right a hebephile someone who loves jews there i think there's nuance there but you're just that's never a that's never an argument that's going to be someone who loves there. I think there's nuance that you're just that's never that's never an argument that's going to be compelling to people on the Internet. Like nobody cares about that distinction. You know what I mean? So I love all the right

talk about we've we've gone through Dr. Disrespect a bit and multiple times. I don't know how much more new stuff has come out, but we have Dick on the show right now. And if you guys recall last time Dick was on and the Boogie news about cancer came up, Dick threw a borderline parade where he's like, good, fucking die, you fat piece of shit. It turned out I was right. He was faking it the whole time.

Now the joke's on me because I want him to have cancer. He got away with it. He fucking got away with it he got away with it boogie did oh that's that piece now he's gonna live to the ripe old age of 59 with that piece of ass he's got die of a heart attack are you on this yeah they did they did another stream last night with him and keem and destiny where um destiny was like pressing him even more and it was just destiny didn't see him threaten to in the midst of all this about wait hold on destiny in the midst of calling for violence or whatever the fuck he doesn't when he goes into his edular thing he doesn't give a fuck like he just full sends that he's he has done this many many many times he's

not gonna just i don't i am so impressed by Destiny's talent. If I gave him an hour and a half and said we were going to do a debate on fucking how to I don't know what it's called when you make horse hooves smaller. He would be a subject matter expert by the time we rolled around. He'd be

talking about puss and admins and whatever. This guy can come up to speed on anything and win a debate i can't do that it i have it has to be in my wheelhouse anyway so i saw him debunk his cancer claims of like elevated blood cell levels or whatever and i'm like what now he's a doctor is there anything you want to come up to speed on like that man you were watching um a prosecutor it felt like you were watching um a prosecutor it felt like you were watching like a really prepared prosecutor so was destiny i saw a still of boogie it was just boogie holding

a knife and someone was like boogie's threatening to kill himself on a stream and so i guess he was talking to keem and destiny at that point he was talking to keem and destiny and destiny kept on pressing him more. And every time Boogie would try to do something, Destiny would just completely dismantle what he was saying and explain why it made no sense. He was talking about the specific medical condition, so obviously he spent some time researching it.

But yeah, I think Woody's right. But he's not a doctor. Destiny doesn't know what he's talking about with this polycylothermia shit. He sounded like one. Dude, he sounds like one. He's not a doctor, though. He read five paragraphs on Wikipedia, and he parroted it.

Yeah, yeah. Wait a second. The allegation that Destiny only reads Wikipedia articles is nonsense. You guys realize that, right? Yes. I don't know. Is that an allegation against him yeah they often call him a wicked idiot incredibly in depth i've seen him research i've seen him show his notes and like like like

what he's gone through and it's i'm serious it's like he's he's writing a dissertation for for his or some essay or something because it just says i hate firefighters over and over 100 pages yeah i mean the allegation is that he doesn't have it no it's incredibly important and he does though i mean and it blows the master debater like just yeah no i'm not using destiny to diagnose my my health the chevron decision right i saw him doing a debate on it and they're like had you have you read the chevron decision he's like well it well, it's 900 pages. I'm halfway through. And then he starts accurately recalling. I read the Mueller report. If you quiz me on it, I hope I could get a D.

I'm not destiny. I don't have this. He also got on Vyvanse in the last couple of years, which is like ADHD medication. And so he used to do this thing where he would play video games and kind of talk at the same time. And now all of his attention and focus is on what he so what he's right when he's like when he wants to learn about stuff like he will spend hours and out with 10 hour streams just researching stuff and it is it's definitely not just wikipedia um

oh it's wild he reads the source material and and this means like supreme court decisions things like the muller report or whatever drops it that thing um where they said joe biden was a sympathetic old man so they weren't going to charge him he read that whole thing he her report what was his take on that because because sounds bad i don't remember i mean obviously biden's immune for anything he did ever right the her report although i think some of that goes back to when he was in the senate that he had some classified documents from there so the thing that made headlines when it came to the her report was that he uh one of the reasons why he declined

to prosecute is because he felt like the the biden could reasonably invoke a defense that would portray him as a well-meaning elderly old man who forgets stuff but there was all there were also um he the they there were so many other details of that report like the fact that he um had these documents in his basement like half open next to like a broken lamp in a dog kennel he felt that he thought that that was that that that could convince a jury that he himself didn't know that those documents were uh had the classified markings there were also uh credible he could make a credible claim that his aides had taken these boxes out of

the Senate building or whatever. And then put it in the... It wasn't just like the elderly thing. That's obviously the thing that made the headlines. But there were like four or five other things. It was so interesting to see such a tit for tat simultaneously that they had both done the exact same thing. But one was

a tottering old man whose memory can't be counted on. He's the president. They did done the exact same thing but one was a tottering old man who can't his memory can't be counted on he's the president they did not the other they did not do the same thing because they didn't biden's own lawyers found those they after the thing with the stuff with trump came out biden's lawyers went to his various properties and combed through all of his shit they found the stuff they presented it to the FBI. He cooperated with the special counsel at every turn. He sat down and gave him an hours-long interview. Donald Trump did not do that on the classified documents case.

I don't know how the offense is any different just because he came forward. The offense is that Trump was obstructing the case. He asked his lawyers to lie to the separate charge he asked he asked his uh he has his ass his underlings to uh destroy evidence

he uh lied about what uh documents he still had in his possession and nara nara and the fbi were trying to work with the trump camp for like a year and a half they gave him so much leniency and when they had firm evidence uh from witnesses that he still kept on to deliberately uh classified information at mar-a-lago that's when they did the raid so there's it's just nothing like i hope they don't throw the whole case out true we'll see we'll see um well they're gonna appeal that to the 11th circuit which is is there anything that trump didn't do illegally i just want to know that like he's keeping illegal boxes in his house and guys are pretending to be electors illegally that's trump's is there anything he did that's not illegal i mean you're making a strong case for why trump would be a bad president or at

least an immoral one i'm sure kind of agreeing with you. The economy disagreed with you while he was president. Does that matter, or was that illegal too? Did it? So I kind of remember there being fewer jobs at the end of his term than the start. Well, Woody, this fake disease that went all over the planet did. So here's the thing.

You evacuated my trap card! Yeah, do you think that COVID is some- Yeah, COVID destroyed- Did Trump do that? Hundreds of thousands, millions of people lost their jobs because of the COVID shit. Okay, so I'll respond. People give Biden a hard time about inflation, right?

And the deal is, coming into his term, there was a supply chain problem. So we all know supply and demand sets prices. When the supply crashed because of all these things, there weren't enough container ships, there weren't enough containers themselves. There wasn't enough plastic to make whatever. All these hiccups in the supply chain, demand stayed the same, but supply dropped and prices went up. But no one gives Biden a pass for the COVID-related inflation that happened from the supply chain hiccups. They say that's Biden's fault. But everybody gives Trump a pass for the jobs lost under his thing. If it's Trump, then it doesn't matter. It's COVID. It's an act of God. It's not his fault. If it's Biden, he fouled up.

And Trump signed two stimulus packages into law during his presidency which helped americans across the board on average americans save money during covid of course you can find individual instances where this didn't happen but on average americans actually saved money during the uh you can look it up they have on average covid money was good for america you're saying no no no i'm saying that it was not just biden stimulus the the reason why supply chains got rocked when they did when the country reopened after the vaccine was being distributed is because americans had more net wealth than they did before on average than uh than before the the pandemic so if you're going to blame biden for uh inflation which contributed to this exceeding demand which which the supply

chains couldn't meet obviously you would have to paint some of the blame at Trump as well for adding to that stimulus. Yeah, but this idea that all the inflation... That's too fast to be true. Yeah, the idea that all the inflation is supply chain related is untrue. A huge amount of it had to do with these stimulus bills that printed trillions of dollars. And then we support...

Then we add a couple more forever wars onto the end of it, support those, just print more money. Macroeconomics aside supply chain if it were solely supply chain related we would have seen a short term influx in pricing and then a return to average prior to the

event. That's not what we saw because it wasn't supply chain you're off target. That supply chain problem lasted for a year or two. It kept going and dragging on. You act like it was a little hiccup. No. Like supply.

What's being blamed on that? Inflation. I'm trying to explain inflation because everyone is giving Trump a pass. It's not just printing money for the deaths, for the unemployment. But no one gives Biden a pass uh when people had money in their pocket and the supply chain couldn't meet it you guys are talking about uh like magical mysticism stuff no inflation is printing money that is the problem right like if it's not the simplest of things to understand

then people are just like i don't know i don't think i don't think so i disagree and then i can't win this debate unless i somehow get you to agree with me which you just can choose not to that trump was in that position earlier tonight right where you're like it's because i'm not retarded and and what he has to get you to start lining up like it it's an impossible situation demand for oil play covid covid destroyed the covid and the subsequent lockdowns destroyed our economy yeah destroyed it millions of people lost their jobs no i'm not you're saying that's not true well when we talk about lockdowns like in california for example the lockdown was like three weeks and then we know the lockdown was. Oh, dude.

Come on, California. I live in L.A., bro. The lockdown was totally fucked. Are you insane? They shuttered businesses. So they weren't operating at the same level that they were before. But it was within like two or three months that you could go to like outdoor restaurants or whatever. So it's not like literally the entire economy shut down.

But we were also in the middle of an once in a generation pandemic that killed a million people. Like, so what? And people at the time, like the CDC or whoever that was setting these standards, all they're trying to do. You're jumping around all over the place. Businesses were locked the fuck down. I'm sorry if you can't follow what I'm saying. I don't think I'm rambling at all. The issue here with the inflation is that it is just a plain fact that Donald Trump signed a stimulus package with a PPP protection program, which added $600 per week every month on top of existing unemployment benefits. And Americans broadly were able to save money. So by the time these industries opened back up, demand was insane because people had all this money to spend. In three weeks? No, we're talking about when the—

California lockdown was three weeks, right? And then we could go eat outside in a park or something. The literal shelter in place was, I think, like three weeks, right? Are you disagreeing with that? Should we just look it up? Dude, the economy was shut down for a second. They don't let you look things up. They never do.

The California lockdown lasted forever. Everyone was working from home, restaurants and businesses. If you want to get dinner sometime, we can do that. Yeah, we can go to a nice outdoor restaurant. Restaurants are permanently outside now. Are you saying this lie to people that California was not locked down? No, it was locked the fuck down. I'm saying the rhetoric that we use sometimes I think exaggerates what happened.

It's no question that the ordinances that were put into place, businesses had to operate at a limited function. But when we talk about lockdown, the actual shelter in place, I don't think that lasted longer than two or three weeks. And I just feel like people blow this. People left the state. It still hasn't recovered from covid la specifically and california has not recovered from covid i don't know what that means i mean i think your life before covid was sitting in your room if you think it's recovered it hasn't it's la is totally destroyed still i can't speak

for la how do you but the nation has recovered jobs. Hold on. Let's let, let's let Dick. No, hold on. I get a chance to the unemployment has been below 4% for like a record number of months or quarters, whatever that is. Now the stock market passed 40,000. If this was Trump, he'd be taking credit for this economy. I just went to Charlotte. The roads were busy with people coming home from work. I could hardly get a reservation at the restaurants. We were down to our third and fourth choices. The hotel, the valet wait was like an hour to get our car. Business is booming.

Cities are packed. People are working. This idea that the economy isn't doing well is just a thing that the Republicans keep saying in an effort to win an election. Dude, do you strategy to grocery stores? Do you buy groceries? It's so fucking expensive that people like me are price sensitive. Now meat is so much more expensive than it was five years ago. Commodities are so much more expensive.

Woody's point is that if you're going to blame inflation on Biden, then yeah, we get to blame job losses on Trump because there are job losses. Some, of course, there were job losses under Trump. That's what I was saying. And you guys say those aren't real job losses because they're COVID. Well, then this isn't real inflation because of COVID. No, they're both real.

They're they're both real things. The difference is, like, I dislike how Trump handled that. He shouldn't have played into the lockdown. It destroyed our economy. It's a it's a huge negative thing. He didn't even do that for the record. I mean, he for like two weeks, he pretended to be like strict about the stuff. And after like three weeks, he was saying he was taking credit for the vaccine. It's going to be everybody was taking credit for the vaccine. He did. He does the Trump two step right where he says both things and then you can hear whatever you want.

He was telling people that they can't wear masks purely because he thought that if people wore masks, it was help. It would hurt him in the election. And he's also telling people that this vaccine is God's gift and he's responsible for it. Trump talks on both sides all the time and it's infuriating but the masks were dumb right do you do you agree like taylor you don't know a piece of cloth over your face was did you see biden getting on air force one he's got no mask none of the secret service have masks like what happens interesting do you guys agree do you guys agree do you guys agree that donald trump signed two stimulus packages into law?

Hated it, yeah. Right. So do you understand that he had to have contributed to part of that inflation? Yes. Yes. A huge amount. I'm not the biggest Trump fan. I just see Trump as a better alternative to the other side.

I'm not a big Trump fanboy. I think he does a bunch of fucking retarded shit. I don't like his his constant promotion of you know funding israel forever and ever like he does a bunch of shit i don't like and so this idea that like it has to be president versus president no the way they both handled it was bad and it was a net negative for american people here's what i struggle with and maybe you guys can help me figure this out like How do you feel, generally speaking, about January 6th? It's funny.

It's funny. It was hilarious, yeah. I feel like whenever I call it treason, they're like, technically it's not treason. Treason has to do with being in war. But it was the least patriotic thing a human can do. He tried to keep himself in power illegally and morally. Everything bad about a president can't happen that day.

He watched people violently break into the Capitol building and stood down. And now he lies about it and says, you know, it's really Pelosi's fault or whatever that bullshit is. Wait, that's true though. No, it's not. That is not true, actually. He says it it all the time but it didn't happen go google it right he didn't ask

her dc is a federal district dc is a federal district who's the head of the federal government the commander in chief did she did she say no or not just google the conversation never happened just google who was in charge of the National Guard. Just Google who was in charge of the National Guard. So the conversation didn't happen. That whole thing is false. So hold on. This is one of my frustrations with Trump. He tells, I'll make it up, a lie a minute, right?

And then a lot of his listeners say, aha, yeah, but I know which ones are lies and which ones aren't. And here we have Dick actually believing Nancy Pelosi turned down the National Guard. No, not National Guard. She turned down something. I don't know who it was. People don't know which ones are truth and which one are lies. It's sometimes hard to tell. And he'll stick with a lie again and again and again.

So when you hear it enough, you're like, huh, maybe it is true. Maybe there's something truthy about it. If I tell you I caught a two-and-a-half-foot fish, you might think that fish was at least two foot. If Trump tells you he caught a two and a half foot fish you might think that fish was at least two foot if trump tells you he caught a two and a half foot fish he never went fishing i've never heard i've never heard an innocent i want to ask you guys this question i've never heard an innocent explanation for this so we have a firm timeline that nobody not even trump disputes of what happened that day we know that trump gave a speech at the ellipse and he

went back to the white house at 120 and he was in the White House dining room at 125. We know this. Dozens, hundreds of witnesses attested to this. We know that he sat in the White House dining room and watched on live television cops brutalized and mutilated, literally mutilated. There were dozens of cops were mutilated that day wait when how on january on january 6th they know how are they gonna take years i'm gonna continue what i'm saying so at 4 17 nearly three hours later is when he well hold on like cops were cops were mutilated they were literally mutilated they people stole their batons from them and beat them with their own batons you had people crushed in a doorway because people his his trump supporters were violently

how did you not see this footage it's so everywhere you can laugh all you want you can laugh all you want you can laugh i don't know it's the word and i want. It's the word. It's the word mutilated is ridiculous. When we ask, you start freaking out. This will undermine your little speech. If you back off mutilated

and make it attack, then we all agree. There were broken bones. A guy named Brian Sicknick had a stroke. He died the next day. The coroner's report, the chief medical examiner. Did Trump cause the stroke with a stroke gun? the coroner's report the chief medical examiner caused the stroke with

like a stroke gun the coroner's report the coroner's report the chief medical examiner said all the events of what happened that day contributed to his condition so we know that donald trump waited watched it live and waited three hours to ask them to leave how do you explain that well first of all cops got a stroke because he got too excited and that's our fault do you know more than a chief medical examiner i mean if he's saying a cop shouldn't have had a stroke for being a cop i guess i'm a doctor the stroke was caused by gets too stressed out and has a stroke and that's what's his job then you know the whole thing about the january 6th stuff for me i don't i for me, I always hear about hours of tape that they won't give up.

And I hear about that question they asked, how many FBI agents were in the crowd? And they're like, we don't discuss personnel usage and placement. And it's like, whoa, wait a minute. I don't think of it as cope. I just want to know why there's any stink around this. And then I see video, and I don't think of it as cope. I just want to know why there's any stink around this. And then I see video, and I don't think that's cope, of them being ushered in in some cases.

I also see video of people breaking windows. And on top of all that, the other thing I don't care for, and Woody will say fuck around and find out, and touche, I guess she did fuck around and she did find out, but that crazy woman who tried to climb through the the barricade if you watch the video there's like two or three SWAT guys behind her and she's trying to climb through this like reinforced glass like window that's within the center of a doorway and it's like you're not addressing my You're not addressing my question at all.

Because you're so agitated about this narrative that you're trying to get across. It's nuts. Well, just explain it to me. How do you explain Donald Trump watching cops get brutalized for three hours before finally asking them to go home? The cops? Trump asked them three hours. Oh my gosh, do you really think you stop it dick trump said go peacefully no violence and then he got banned from twitter and then he couldn't say anything the violence

unfold live on television for three hours his family begged him to ask those protesters to leave his staff begged him to ask those protesters to leave, and it took three hours. So how do you explain this? With a bullhorn? What do you mean? He said go peacefully to whatever we're doing next. Don't do any violence. You're not addressing the substance of my question at all.

You're not addressing my question. What you're asking is insane. You're asking is why did Trump wait three hours to stop violence? I don't know, man. Does he have a magical anti-violence wand that he can wave? Number one, he could have put out a message as soon as violence broke out, asking his supporters to leave. They were fighting.

They weren't tweeting. Number two, he could have called in the National Guard immediately. He had complete authority to call in the National Guard immediately. That call had to come from Pence. He never even made that call. So explain that. The reason that Trump didn't do anything for three hours is he was hoping the insurrection would work. Well, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah. How would it work? He was trying to pressure Pence to reject those electors and send it back to the states so he could further litigate his claims that had already been that had already been adjudicated and settled so you needed to see the writing was on the wall and i'm surprised pence stood stood by there because like there was probably you know how how like telephone games work i'm sure there was a moment where his

secret service was told like they've taken the capital and it's like wait what he was it's what he has fallen down there the castle has fallen he didn't give a fuck well wait hutch you're not right he did care he was happy this was what he hoped for he said march down to the capital and fight right you guys are in a cult together he said he said to go yeah he said to go peacefully you don't you don't he also said to fight you dodge questions it's the trump you're asking loaded questions like you've you say what happened and then say well how do you explain what i hallucinated happened what you're saying is totally insane about cops getting fucking mutilated, dude. Like five cops, three cops out of natural fucking causes.

You can grab your head like you're Jesse Pinkman over and over. It doesn't make it right. Give me the innocent explanation. Try. Trump said go down. Trump said go down and we're going to have a big rally about freedom. And then he watched cops get brutalized for three hours. Hey, you fucking interrupting jackass.

I'm trying to fucking explain it to you. You're not answering the question. You are not answering the question. You are not answering the question. Trump said the beneficial... You're not even trying to answer the question. The generous explanation is that he said, hey, everybody, go down peacefully and assemble. And we're going to have another big rally. All we do is rallies.

And things got out of hand. Because you got a bunch of agitators in the crowd. Some guys who are nuts. Antifa guys and the FBI. And they're all trying to agitate everybody All right, the FBI the FBI tried to kidnap Widener you smug fucks. What the fuck are you talking about? They don't do this. Sure. Sure. Sure. I'm gonna ask the question again. He watched it for three hours Why did he wait three hours to ask them to leave?

Ask who to leave everybody you Hey everybody. Hey everybody Everybody leave. What do you want to to do entrenched you're just dumb you're not answering this question and i think it's obvious what do you want him to do what exactly did you want him to do tell them to leave where where what do you mean where what kind of twitter tell them who the fuck is them, Hutch, you jackass? Where would he... Get his fucking tin can phone? How? Where? Say it where? Say where? Where? Tell them where? He posted at 417.

He asked them to leave, and they left! Do you realize that? On Twitter? Yes. So you think Trump's saying on Twitter, hey, everybody leave, and they all just go, well, we're out of here, see ya, we're going. It literally happened.

I guess if it happened at the same time, then one must have caused the other. How do you get this far without, I guess that's your whole platform, right? Correlation is causation. It happened at the same time, so it must have caused it. They didn't just get tired and go home. Hey, everybody, Trump said to go.

We gotta go. Let me get this lectern. Let's get out of here. Is that what you think happened? Is that what you think happened? It literally happened. And Trump caused it. Trump caused it.

Yes. Why did he wait three hours? Have you tried to answer that question? Why? Why did he wait three hours to tweet? Yeah. I don't know. He's probably figuring it out.

What feed was he getting? Did he's probably figuring it out what was it what feed was he getting did he try to go there himself and stop it we we know he was watching it live on tv we know this for a fact so you wanted him live tweeting it i want i wanted him the second they started breaching the capitol and attacking cops to tell them to go home yes everybody he doesn't think like cops have this under control let's leave half of them in the Capitol. Yeah, let's just leave half of them. Of course. Well, you guys have done that multiple times.

You guys don't do protests in the fucking Capitol all the time. So it's not really that, it's not that strange for this big of a deal. Okay. Do you, do you or do you not protest in the Capitol? Have liberals ever done that? There's a slight difference between what we've seen in the past and what we saw in January 6th. Yeah, you did it. That's the difference.

You guys did it, so it's fine. There were people, for example, that protested the Kavanaugh hearings. They got arrested. They engaged in a form of civil disobedience. People take those risks, and they break the law, and they should be thrown in jail. Yes. So your big problem with January 6th is that Trump didn't tweet it right away and say go home. That's it.

He incited a mob to storm the Capitol in an effort to pressure Pence to not certify the results of those elections. What a story. It's not a story. It literally happened. Oh, man. Look at all this stuff that he did. I know because I can read his fucking mind. Trump, this is Trump's elaborate plan.

By the way, he's a jackass and he's an idiot and he doesn't know what he's doing but here's his elaborate scheme to somehow pressure pressure people into using the legislative systems back in their home states wow what a fucking monster thank god he didn't get away with using the system you still have not even tried to touch the question of why he didn't tweet right away i don't fucking know because he thought it would make it worse because he thought other people were just because he thought the capital police should be there doing it they're doing their job you're saying he thought he would make it worse by asking them to leave maybe i don't know i don't know i don't pretend to know it's in trump's head he said gather peacefully what more do you want okay did that happen

i mean for the most part yeah most people Most people, the people, the people staying in the red velvet rope, walking around the Capitol, we're doing it peacefully. Yes. Okay. Okay. What? I'm not like, you're not answering the question at all. I said, I don't know why Trump didn't immediately tweet. Hey, everybody disperse. Everybody leave. Don't you think that'd be kind of weird? Just try to give an innocent explanation. Try. I just did. He's getting information and he doesn't know what to do. He figured the Capitol Police would take care of it.

You know, he figured that the fucking locks on the door would work. No. You're speculating when we don't need to. We know he was watching it live on TV for three hours. So you're saying why didn't Trump stop Ashley Babbitt from climbing in that window? Is that what you're asking? Like he should have been right there. No, I'm the hand of God. Don't do what you're about to do. Why did he not ask them to leave? I don't know. Because he thought

the Capitol Police would figure it out. Maybe he was trying to do other things. No, no, no. I understand that the only thing, the only reasonable explanation is that he was trying to stage a fucking coup using cracker, cracker barreler barrel grandma's right that's the only reasonable explanation all right everybody get in there and walk through the velvet ropes and go in Nancy Pelosi's office and kick your feet up that'll really strike fear into their hearts right okay okay okay okay do you see your dad when you answer me like that so then you have this like sarcastic attitude with that okay so okay i would i would encourage everyone who's listening to this right now me too i would encourage everybody who's listening

to this right now the new york times compiled a 40-minute compilation of videos that was assembled with from footage from hundreds of people that day and it documents in detail the hours of brutal violence it was not just mutilated it was not just q anon grandma walking around the capitol you know that it's not true you're you're i mean there's tons of people there i'm sure there's a bunch of assholes too the fbi's there i don't like them why would you focus on the grandma who was walking around the Capitol and not the people who were taking American flags and beating cops with them? You guys are the guys that are the ones that normally say the thing blue line, back to

blue, et cetera, et cetera. And now all of you think that these cops were like fucking deep state in on some Fed conspiracy. Why were the doors open? No, not the cops. Not the cops for sure. They got their asses whooped. why were the doors open no not the cops not the cops for sure they got their ass whooped the the like i think there was like i think there was fbi in that crowd uh essentially entrapping people by being like yeah yeah come on do it if you've ever been in like

like a group fight of teenagers there's one guy who's like yeah you should go get him you fuck him up you're the you're a legend why would they incite why would the fbi incite a mob to to do their job of arresting people that's the fbi's job is to arrest terrorists so they're going to cause terrorism i mean this is basic stuff they do it all the time well yeah you know that's all fascinating this feels a lot like that time when they said it wasn't really Trump supporters there. It was all Antifa. We would never do the January 6th thing.

That was Antifa. It's grasping at straws to not take responsibility for this. Who, me? I was there. Yes. The people that were there. I was at BLM and there were Antifa guys there. All right. 100 100 credit to you

doing bad shit i didn't mean to say you personally but i'm obviously talking about the protesters that were there and they're trying to say that wasn't trump's people those were antifa people but we all know that's stupid right we do i mean i'm sure it was both being bad guys. Like, I don't know. It's just bad on both sides. Is Antifa here with us now? Yes. They're all over. Woody, I've been violently assaulted by Antifa guys. What are you talking about?

A self-identifying Antifa guy threw me into a concrete bunker in front of Netflix. I was seeing people say Antifa shot trump whatever it was the last weekend and i'm like my gosh everything's antifa antifa's everywhere it's the it's the go-to boogeyman for the right okay i would rather you just say i would rather you just say the left poses i believe the left poses such a serious threat that i'm okay with donald trump taking whatever steps he felt was necessary to stay in power i would just much much rather you just be honest about it instead of trying to come up with these bullshit excuses this is like this is why everything you say is so loaded it's like

i want you to say and then you give your insane opinion that i don't think and then you act like a smug prick when i don't agree with it there's like i wish i just wish you would say you want to kill liberals why won't you admit it i'm would say you want to kill liberals. Why won't you admit it? I'm not saying you want to kill liberals. I'm saying that people broadly on the right view the left as this deranged mob of people that want to mutilate and sexually abuse kids and destroy

democracy, replace capitalism with communism, replace God with Satan, and they're ready for someone like Trump to come in who openly floated suspending the Constitution. You know, like he just openly said it. And so I just don't understand this idea that you have to like jump through hoops. Just fucking say, you know what?

I'm ready for a king. I am ready for this American democratic project to end. And I'm ready for a strong man to come in and protect the country from these godless liberals. We all know that's what you think. This really plays to your audience who sees all conservatives as one person. But this might shock you, but we're all individuals who think that Trump had different reasons for doing what he did. A lot of us don't think that election was valid. A lot of us think that—

Based on nothing. Based on nothing. But wait, wait. This goes into the question that trump was trying to get to like why trump wait three hours i think dick is like i'm okay with it because i think that election was shady yeah no no absolutely not um i don't know what trump tried to do in those three hours to stop it nothing and what do you mean you don't know what do you mean you don't know we have a we have a historical record of what happened that day he tweeted two times and said remain peaceful during a riot and then three hours asked them finally asked them to leave we know this this is not like well i don't know well go back and look at what happened this is i mean it's such a weird thing

to focus on when the j6 thing didn't do anything. It was mostly people walking around. They had to evacuate the Senate chambers. They had to delay the certification. They literally had to stop what they were doing and evacuate senators. Holy shit, a whole day? Oh, my God. Did they still manage to spend all of our money in that day? I hope so.

What bothers me is their goal wasn't to delay it for a day. Their goal was to stop this, what is it called, ratification of the votes of the Electoral College and slip in the fake Electoral College that Trump had handpicked who would ignore the will of the voters and choose him instead. That was the that was the not all of them, though. Right. You don't think everyone there that day was had that in mind, do you? No, but I think they were following trump's instructions i think to be peaceful he said both things this is the trump two-step you're not on the show every week but it's a thing i say a lot where i give these examples of trump who says one thing and the other and people say oh but wait he said the other but he said he said yeah i'm sorry um but trump did say you're gonna lose your country

if you don't fight and he also said but peaceful and now well both sides get to hear what they want but well you can't say fight means violent though like that's like political rhetoric you know i hear you all right and and i i asked myself if i would make that same argument if it was my guy but he's made a lot of violent requests you know and it's the same as the fucking bullseye shit like they they try to they're trying to pin the way i see fight politically is the same way i see bullseye i remember when they went to sarah palin i know now they're doing it to biden where they're like oh he said put a bullseye on him and it's like yeah that's rhetoric meaning we need to target

this person and try and shut them down the same way fight means sure go there rally do what you need like fucking cheer and ra ra shish boom by your shit but do it peacefully well he likes them in there delaying there was a procedure where he was about to be officially the loser of the election and i think he really liked that it wasn't happening i think he liked that they were in there preventing congress from doing his job well let me just ask you guys a question if it was true that joe b Biden and the Democratic Party apparatus engaged in massive fraud all over the country and literally stole the election as Trump was alleging, would January 6th have been justified? Well, more than January 6th. If they actually did, yeah, 100%.

No, it's still a crime. Exactly. They would have been justified. If Bideniden actually did this coup it would have been justified and what did that's a hindsight thing yeah but what would have been justified doing a parade illegal parading no i'm saying it would have been justified and what would have been justified the thing that happened capital trying to do a coup we would applaud it if it happened that wasn't a coup though it's just's just a bunch of old people walking around. This is the context. It doesn't seem like a...

Nobody brought guns. Nobody was fucking being, like, shooting. There were multiple people. That's not true. There were multiple people that were arrested on gun charges that day. How many people were shot on January 6th? Other than Ashley Babbitt, how many people were... Hold on.

Hold on. How many people other than Ashley Babbitt were shot on January 6th? Nobody, but you said there was no guns that day. Who were they going to shoot, Taylor? They were all on the same side. I guess the FBI had guns. Hold on, hold on. What happened that day is Donald Trump went to that ellipse and he gave that preliminary speech to his, rally to his supporters.

And he told them they stole this election. There was massive fraud. Mike Pence needs to do the right thing and save the country from the people that are stealing. supporters and he told them they stole this election there was massive fraud mike pence needs to do the right thing and save the country from the people that are stealing so he he implanted this thought in their minds that was based on nothing absolutely nothing no court case validated anything he was saying he was purposely choosing not ever yeah so he implanted this thing in their head and then what did they do they went and they fought like hell for their country so if you can't say that he bears at least some responsibility me and woody would probably argue he's like 99 of his fault but if you can't acknowledge that some

of the responsibility that one percent wow that's generous of you too would he would that have happened if he didn't ask his supporters to come to january 6th that day right i i mean i'm the short answer it was because of that i mean i i was hearing about january 6th and the plans for this on my facebook feed from the crazies i engaged with at the time it was an open thing then why weren't there more capital police there there was an interesting there were interesting revelations why weren't there more secret service at the rally exactly i think it's run by a woman might be the same apparently secret service would have just watched and been like all these these weird corinthian columns we can there is no there isn't there is an answer to this there were people in the

administration and there were people in the i think um what do you call the military joint chiefs of staff there were people in the sort of like defense apparatus that were concerned about the optics of a military presence there uh during a rally and and that obviously was stupid but we have an answer to that question it's not because of whatever it is you guys are alleging they just somebody made a police not military yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about, I think. I think it goes both ways. So they didn't want military presence, and then they put up barbed walls right after,

and they're fine with that? Well, again, Donald Trump literally could have called in the National Guard within five minutes of the violence. Well, why is it his job, though? He's not doing, I mean. Why is it? He's the commander-in-chief, bro. What do you mean? The commander-in-chief of of the army the army doesn't fight americans bro do you did you forget

that the national guard you absolutely can deploy the national guard to quell an insurrection and you expect him to have done that in like a couple minutes after people are an insurrection isn't a bunch of cracker barrel grandmas bust going through open doors yes it, an insurrection isn't a bunch of cracker barrel grandmas bust, going through open doors. Yes it is, an insurrection is like a fucking militia storming shit, not a bunch of feds opening the door for a parade. Listen, like information silos exist. And at this point, I'm just fully convinced

that you have somehow just, I don't know how, you've somehow managed to avoid the the fucking hours of footage that you're saying from inside your fucking silo no i get it completely it's amazing that this plan totally worked they stormed the capital and yet he immediately wasn't president what a dumb plan i don't know i don't know what you're saying like sometimes like no shit fail sometimes these directions fail it's they don't work do you wait hutch do you really hold on i'm interested like hutch do you really think all these largely facebook boomers showing up unarmed and most of them the vast majority parading around like retards with their sunglasses

profile pics on twitter like do you think that was a sincere, honest to God coup? Your memory of that day is spotty, I will say. You keep talking about QAnon grandma, people walking around and putting their foot up. Do you think what I just described, which is realistic, is a honest to God coup? Or do you think a coup is more like what we see in, you know, the Khmer Rouge and things like that. I think what is more likely that happened that day is you had Trump supporters show up and were whipped up by his speech at the Ellipse. They took him at his word that the country was being stolen. And a lot of them, I would assume most of them, got caught up in the moment. But I think you're making the mistake of isolating the events of January 6th

and ignoring the previous two months where Trump was behind the scenes pressuring election officials, state officials, state legislatures in several states to disenfranchise millions of voters. That's what he did. It's just it's not this is again. Do you think that this a bunch of largely boomers showing up the most armed populace on earth by the way by density the most armed populace on earth showed up without guns and largely marched around like retards do you think that was like an honest to god coup the way you see a coup in france or first of all when you say largely marched around with retards did you see the footage of the brutality that day yeah yeah i i saw i saw footage of people fighting and i also the footage of the brutality that day? Yeah, yeah. I saw footage of people fighting,

and I also saw footage of hundreds of people being opened like it was a fucking Disney Epcot exhibit. If you were watching what happened that day, you would understand that the police had lines, and they had these individual lines, and the lines kept being broken. They kept being pushed back closer and closer and closer to the point where they were totally overwhelmed and they had to fall back into the Capitol. They had nowhere near the amount of staff. You can't hear me. They

had nowhere near the amount of law enforcement officers that was needed in that moment to quell the riots. And so they, they had to fall back they there was nothing else they hadn't they were totally overrun but i i just conceded to you a moment ago i don't think the people that most of the people that did that that day showed up thinking like oh i'm gonna try to like stop the certification i think they got caught up in the moment i think they believed trump when he said that biden stole the election and i think they took steps in that moment that they felt was necessary to stop him from certifying the election. Otherwise, the libs are going to steal the country and blah, blah, blah. But the context here is also two months of Donald Trump phone calls like it's called Georgia.

Can you I need you to find me 11,837 votes, which is one more. You know, that's just one part of this equation. I mean, he assembled false slates of electors. He had no legal right to do that whatsoever. Conservatives always like will defer to this thing that happened in 1960, where the Democratic Party in Hawaii presented an alternative slate of electors. They leave out the fact that that was during an ongoing recount, and they were ordered to do that by a judge. None of these false slates of electors that happened in the swing states all over the country were ordered to do this.

They just took it upon themselves to do this. So there was a plan. Oh, the humanity humanity hutch you beat him so bad he disconnected let everybody know that what just happened had nothing to do with taylor's internet connectivity he was so shamed so dominated so alpha by hutch and with hutch's perfect argument that he had to leave in shame let me do the goddamn advertisements this episode of PKA is brought to you by today's sponsor, BetterHelp. So let's hear a little bit about their service. Life is full of twists and turns, and it's important for you to show up for yourself through it all. Mental and dental got to take care of it all. We're very serious about everyone taking care of their physical health here at PKA and maintaining a healthy physique,

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fun to be dr disrespect's victim though man i had so much fun listening to 30 to 45 percent of dick and hutch going at it that was great i would great. Just as it was starting to get interesting, I'd hear Hutch be like, Oh yeah? Well... You gotta catch up on the VOD now. You need a new camera, man. You look like a creep, Taylor, from that angle.

It's the curtains. It's those fucking curtains. It looks like he's in Wing's back room or something. This is ridiculous. It's those fucking curtains. It looks like he's in Wing's back room or something. This is ridiculous. He's vacationing in Conway, South Carolina at a very classy establishment.

My God. Any minute, some fucking... I'm at Wing's house, if you must know. See? Why don't you try turning off the video so it's just audio so there's less of a chance of it fucking up? Oh, he wants to bless us

with this image. Oh, and lose this? What are you talking about? This is the podcast, Hutch. We need that still image of Taylor with the green curtains. What's wrong with him? Why does he like me?

I want to ask how you guys have been able to do... Because I'm on vacation. When did you guys start this podcast? 2010? Like 12 years ago or some shit? I don't know. What is 52 to about...

I mean, who doesn't have five hours to spare every week for the rest of your life? Has it been tough at any point or have you guys enjoyed it like literally the whole time? Literally the whole time. It's always a goddamn blast. I like hanging out with these guys i like sharing my stupid

opinions i think about um you know i think during the week i'm watching the news like an old man i'm just fuck you i'd say this and that if i were there but then i get to come on here and i get to say it and it's fun um so yeah love oh yeah hanging out with our buddies and uh and and you know still staying connected with like a bunch of people via the show is interesting. Like whether it's, uh, Harley or,

or drifter or, uh, or somebody like that, or, or somebody like hex, you know, like, and you,

obviously, of course you like it's, it's, uh, we probably wouldn't interact too much if, if, if it weren't for this show, it's cool to,

I'm not hearing you every now and then. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I genuinely apologize. This podcast exists because of hutch's podcast like it is definitely was it what was it called your original pot you had it with cnn's and host migration i think it was called host migration yeah episodes we only did like damn that's a way this is a copycat podcast of yours that's all we are well somebody

i got dude rogan is the reason why I got into YouTubing, so you can thank him. And you know why Rogan got into YouTubing? Opie and Anthony. Is that right? Yeah. Rogan credits all of his podcasting to Opie and Anthony getting into that

in the mid-2000s. And so, yeah, I love doing the show. When like a week goes by and i have to miss it i'm always like oh man i haven't got to be a retard online in like a week i would love to do that again because it's just fun just shooting the shit making usually it's not as as you know political as it's been tonight usually it's like hey i'm gonna do going to do Indian guy, you know, at a Baskin Robbins. And then everyone enjoys that. And it's fun.

Well, listen, you put Dick and Dick and me in the same room. We're going to probably find a way to go at it one way or the other. Are you coming on to me? What the hell is that? I'm not coming on to you. You are coming on to me. Earlier this week, literally, I was like, because anytime I'm out of town and this time for good reason, I'm always paranoid that my connection is going to drop and I'm going to not be able to participate. And I heard like Hutch is on.

And then maybe an hour after that, I saw you guys going at it on Twitter a bit. And I was like, Chiz, please book Dick for the same episode. Because even if I drop entirely, Dick and Hutch are going to be very entertaining. You ambushed me. I had to get in a fucking moment. That wasn't intentional. That's what Chiz does. He did the same thing to me.

Okay, wait, wait, wait. I have a thing to say. First of all, Dick is right. That did happen a couple years ago. Second, this time, I didn't think Dick was coming. There was something about he was not sure if he was able to make it i saw yeah you weren't confirmed oh yeah i was at santa barbara uh what what day is it for a couple days and i didn't the last i heard you couldn't make it like that was the message i got so we would have told hutch had we known you were going

to be here and when you joined i was like wait does hutch know that he's going to be on here and it's like no it's like so we didn't think you were joining to be here. And when you joined, I was like, wait, does Hutch know that he's going to be on here? And he was like, no. So we didn't think you were joining the call, but we're glad you were able to make it. We were all surprised. I don't think I'd lie to Chiz. Why would I do that? No. Well, I mean, Chiz is a bit of a backdoor

machinations guy. He's trying to make things happen, but I never want to surprise someone. We never want to surprise someone with the guest well he wanted me to ambush um blame truth and i was like no if he's cool i'm down but he wanted me to like surprise him dear can you imagine how much milder that would have been you and blame truth being like yeah well i don't like skill-based matchmaking yeah well i do i'm not entirely sure that would have been milder.

I have the conversation. It's a picture of Discord. Dick wrote, fuck, I don't think I'll make it back by that time. I'll only know by Thursday. That was like three days ago. That's my latest update. Oh, no. I said,

you think, yeah, I said I can come in today at like 10.30. I said I can come in for a bit. I thought I'd be stuck in Santa Barbara about I got out of there. Well, we appreciate it. Dick and Hutch. Thank you very much. You guys fighting man. If the other 65%

of it were as entertaining as the 35% I heard, then we're in for a good episode. Oh, we had a good time. I would pop back in to clarity and it was both of you like forehead vein mode. Like, yeah, well, you are a fucking loser, and I don't believe you.

Somebody's just got to set these liberals to the truth. Dick, your debate technique is really challenging, and I've been on the other side of it. It's such a fucking good troll. I need to say this. It's so funny to watch him bite. You can see that Dick's not arguing in good faith he's just fucking

checks and balances we need to be kept in check see Dick isn't arguing in good faith and he's somehow engineered the debate to be change my mind which is impossible to win and he's just like I don't think so I know because I'm not retarded

every debate today has been him guiding us into that where he gets to just be like nah you can't let liberals control the terms you know you're like a physical manifestation of my of my all my twitter arguments for the last like seven years he's got a lot of accounts he's got a lot of accounts yeah that's what i try to be you mentioned a couple times ago you were on that you were like this politics stuff online it's really negative for my life i'm trying to step away from it have you how's that going have you done that or not not too much no i'm like fully back into the politics thing and it's like going pretty well um obviously there's like more interest in politics now um i think during the biden years it was like especially grating for me because i i shifted all my attention away from the mega people because they just weren't they just weren't didn't have power and so they just weren't

a concern for me and so then it shifted all to like leftists who i get along who i who i don't get along with at all like i have like strong disagreements with them just in the same way as like the people and that stuff in some ways was like even more like infuriating some of the crazy shit that we're saying so like real like real deal communist kind of people yeah yeah yeah when uh we've got a um a guy on our patreon who's an is tank commander. He messaged me earlier, Woody, he said he could come on the show. He's been in action, and I think a big part of what's going on in the war, and he said

he has all sorts of fun war stories that he could tell about going into power. They are throwing rocks at us, very dangerous rocks. I'm a piercing rocks. I'm a piercing rocks. Good job. We should rocks. Armor piercing rocks. Armor piercing rocks. Kyle, we should have him on. I didn't know that the Israeli accent was so similar

to the French accent. Yeah, we should target an amount of time. 60 minutes, 90 minutes. And if it runs long, it runs long. But if he runs dry, respectfully move on. I'll write back and tell him, no. I find that shit fascinating. I don't know how you two fall on the

Palestinian-Israeli conflict thing I've gone back and forth The more research I do I'll go back the other way I think I've gone back and forth three fucking times And I'm back on the Israeli side Although the other day I heard the Israelis were using dogs To rape Palestinians

Like to torture them And I was like Damn that's a bit strong isn't it were using dogs to rape Palestinians, like to torture them. And I was like, damn, that's a bit strong, isn't it? Is there any post-canine felching involved? Dude, when you hear anything that evil, like the 40 beheaded babies, when I hear something so over-the-top evil, my gut reaction is like,

Woody's denying dead babies. This sounds like the other side has a vested interest in pushing this. I'm denying dead babies because Dr. Disrespect's victims were most likely in their teens. Jesus fucking Christ didn't kill anybody. We're not suggesting he did. He just broke

a lot of teen hearts, that's all. I don't think, I know for a fact I wouldn't give a fuck about israel whatsoever if they didn't clearly have so much over our politics like i don't i don't care what israel and the middle east are up to i couldn't care same way with ukraine i don't give a fuck about ukraine and russia i don't care about israel and palestine why do we have to hear about it here in the united states we've got enough problems stop i don't know how plugged in you guys are with like left-wing politics but it the israel palestine thing was incendiary for for like online spaces and it was crazy um like like my take is

like it's a little bit of nuance where it's where it's like i feel like israel is completely justified in trying to eliminate hamas like i don't understand why they would tolerate that like right next to them and then i also think that that netanyahu and israel could could be doing more to protect um so a potentially violent group on their border justifies action and russia NATO and putting military bases in there. You don't like that, though. Well, the difference is that... Commie! Traitor to our country! I don't want to hear that shit, Taylor.

I don't want to hear that. I'm not sure I did it. That way! Commie! Wait, that's me! You're pointing at Woody, you fucking retard. I believe you, you fucking idiot. I thought Woody was correcting me, but I think he was just complimenting me on my pointing skills. Calm him!

Calm me, traitor to our country, alright? Oh, you want us to be your little isolationist island? The biggest fucking island of scaredy cats in the world. What are we going to make then? We're the best weapons manufacturers that have ever existed. You want to stop that? You want to stop when business is a boomin'? There's folks that need killing, Taylor, and we make killing fools.

There's no reason for us to be there. No reason. Oh, I've got billions of reasons. How is my wife going to get his next paycheck if Ukraine falls? He needs to get plugged back in. I think Taylor's political profile is probably in.001% of the going to get his next paycheck if ukraine falls he needs to get plugged back in i think uh taylor's like political profile is probably in like 0.001 percent of the country where you have like

a libertarian isolationist who believes in universal health care and is pro-life like i'd like that is such an interesting constellation of uh i'm not even like i wouldn't even say it's it's libertarian like i'm i'm very nationalistic in a lot of my views and that like i want america for americans promoting things that help american citizens like so i guess that is that what that's nationalism right like that sounds more like isolationism or nativism but like like nationalism necessarily has a bad con so like the definition of nationalism is like extreme patriotism and focused on like a national identity to the detriment of other countries that's like an that's like oh well then like if like yeah if other countries have if other countries have to like do a little worse so americans can do better i'm cool with that like no they already do that's the

way we more like trying to invade me if If your government doesn't... Not Canada, but Mexico. Your country has to fight on behalf of you as a citizen. If your government isn't fighting on behalf of you as a citizen, your government has failed. It has to represent us. It has to.

I would take a good bit of Mexico away. I don't see why we build the wall on our side. They're causing a problem. I'm going to put the wall on our side. They're causing a problem. I'm going to put the fence on their side. At least take Baja. The wall could be so much shorter if we just go a little lower below California. You want Baja? Done. Thank you.

Kyle from Brazil. I want Toronto, Vancouver, Ottawa. These are all hockey cities. I want to make sure that Canada doesn't even have an nhl team get fucked that's more of an nhl decision you really don't need the whole the whole country in a global war yeah i do want to say this my takes are so serious hutch was talking about taylor's positions and while i don't agree with all of them i really like the way taylor arrived

at them what i don't love is when someone just happens to agree with everything that their side does you know like i'm pro-gun but mostly vote blue and uh taylor has a lot of positions like that too like he's pro national health care but republicans generally aren't i'm pro-drugs like i i fucking i hate republicans they are fucking losers. They're embarrassing losers. That's okay, Taylor, because we love you. They're the worst. You big strong son of a bitch. They seem slightly better than the Democrats to me.

And some of my core issues, which is no more forever wars, close the border, and universal health care isn't going to get got by fucking either party, but that is definitely- War is what we fucking do. Why do people not like our war? They're fucking sick. They're fucking sick. We never lose.

We lose all the time. We lose all the time. Play a TDM. We always win. We wipe the fucking floor with them. Excuse me. We always win. We wipe the fucking floor with them. Excuse me. Just one moment. We won Vietnam in TDM. Have you ever seen those photos of the U.S. Army with those piles of gold bullion?

Where did that end up? Like, I swear, we win all of these wars. And it's a good fucking time. And all of our big companies. It's a good fucking time. Dude, Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 would not have had the AC-130 if George Bush hadn't done the right thing and invaded Iraq, okay? That's what that footage was based on.

Dude, honestly, Kyle is more nationalistic than me in regards to the military because anything the American military does anywhere on Earth, he's like, badass, keep doing it. It's crazy. I want more it's crazy i want more of it i want more of it i do not realize the cost of that on the american public and you're like what are you talking about what public were they mutilated they were mutilated i was mutilated when i had to pay my taxes as your conference oh please like that money came from your taxes they just print as much as they need they the three three trillion went missing from the Mutilated when I had to pay my taxes this year, Kyle. Oh, please. Like that money came from your taxes.

They just print as much as they need. Three trillion went missing from the Pentagon. If it didn't come from my taxes, why did I have to cut that check? No, it doesn't matter how much it costs. It's what we fucking do. And we print the money, so it doesn't matter how much it costs. Yeah, what we do is lose every war

since World War II. Make the best killing. No. Okay. By your terms, maybe. But I just struggle with it. What was the victory condition in Vietnam? I don't know why we don't conquer places.

And when Trump said it, everybody acted like he was out of his mind. He was blaming George Bush for Iraq. Take the oil. Take it all. He was blaming George Bush for Iraq and how it was a huge mistake because the weapons of mass destruction weren't really there. He was shouting all this. And he said, we didn't even keep it. And I was like, did he think that was a possibility that we just kept it?

And I was like, damn, why didn't we just keep it? Honestly, the wars for oil thing was never salient to me as far as reasons to go in the Middle East because it was basically an argument like, oh, what if I spend a trillion dollars to break into Woody's house and then steal his projector? It's like, well, you can buy that projector for $1,500. That's exactly the situation in the Middle East. We spent trillions of dollars to purportedly secure oil reserves that we still don't have

in order to what? Not buy them at cheaper than the war would have been? We already have Saudi Arabia in our pocket. They're our little bitch. Are we talking about Iraq right now? Are we talking about Iraq 2? Because Iraq 2 is literally to avenge the plot on George Bush's father. Plain and simple. That's all it is.

Kyle, I've heard that and I'm not sure it's wrong. We might both be right because I keep hearing that a lot of these oral wars are about keeping USD to be the global currency. I like that. They saber rattle about switching to the Euro or something else.

And we gotta do a little killing. Dude, I love that shit. I love that shit. I love that shit. We've won a thousand little wars that you've never heard of. Because it would make a fucking good Tom Cruise movie, dude. That's why. Because it's entertaining. Because I don't care.

I think it's neat. You're a Reagan Republican. A shining city on the hill with missiles pointed at everybody else. Dude, Reagan sucks and I don't like him. Safety is your strength. Yeah, we need one of the laser space programs to shoot down nukes. We need to do something about those Russian subs

off our coast. But otherwise, we just need to keep fucking shit up. You're acting like there's another way. Like we're not the Spartans of this era in the world. When they look back to this time a thousand years ago... Spartans? We're all fat as fuck, dude.

My friend. Have you not seen Kyle's Tinder profile? He's not fat. The people... The guys we send aren't fat, though. And you don't need to be skinny and svelte to operate a predator drone from fucking Nevada. You know what I mean? It's a different game

now. It doesn't matter if we're fat. Yeah, but why the constant approval of U.S. interventionism and other – I'm not even isolationist as much as I am non-interventionist. Because people with more information than me and that are smarter than me deem it to be in the best interest of the United States. Because they think so, I back that blindly. Because our system is made for me me to do so that's supposed to be the best you should hear my reason global intervention is how i learn about geography

dude that's true i have no idea how big ukraine was you think i knew where ukraine was i know it wasn't your i didn't know where kiev was for sure i didn't know about that river i didn't know exactly where uh the nuclear disaster was i've got a little bit of european geography down the first thing the first thing i did when that broke out was i fired up microsoft flight simulator on my oled monitor holy shit crane but where did you find anything fascinating well i mean it's it's pretty beautiful but like it's a really fascinating moment right now for the Republican Party, because like Merle Haggart was performing at the RNC, I think, yesterday. And he's singing a song and the lyrics are, let's get out of Iraq and get this country back on track. And it's like as somebody who came like became an adult during the Bush era, you know, conservative jingoism of like the post-september 11th era i'm like my

mind is spinning i'm like what is like how did how these are the people that were calling you know people like me traitors for like opposing the war is like a little college hippie um and now they're singing this tune what do you make of a lot of latin radio or wrong for promoting those bullshit forever wars that went on for 20 years. You were right. Stay out of this. There's no reason. There's no benefit to the American public to be involved in wars in Iraq or Afghanistan.

Our weapons are getting better. It's so much great weapon testing. We're just getting better and better at blowing things up and killing stuff, and that's what we do. You think that's worth like a billion Iraqi lives? You know any Iraqis?is as a kid what are you look at this guy look at this guy is this what is this right yes you do well look at this guy loves the iraqis oh look at him oh iraqi flag i love you how can you not wait independent of someone else telling you what way to point you fucking retard because it's different on my

screen silly it's different on my screen you silly. It's different on my screen. You see, Taylor, sometimes it's all about perspective. You're a goober smooching Iraq lover, and I'm an American patriot. Rock flag eagle. Well, I'm sure we can broadly that that some american interventions have been bad but like how do you for example like if we have a strategic partnership with uh you know like the somali government and they ask for our help uh fighting they have a like a terrorist problem over there and they say hey you know like can you help us like deal with that you know like how do you evaluate whether or not to to do that i mean i like i used to be kind of very skeptical of like the american hegemon the global like hegemon but at this point like i feel like i'm kind of grateful that we're the world's superpower and

not china like i would much rather prefer that it would be us we are for now like and that's something that i think i differ from maybe woody and and Kyle from is I don't think our position on the world stage as the global hegemon is as long lasting as them. Like, I don't think we're going to. You know who runs the government now? 50 years from now, 100 years from now, I don't think we're going to be the global hegemon. Like, we're just not set up. China is a very serious country. A very serious country.

The economy is not going right now, though. The population is shrinking, which crushes the economy. We've talked about this before. Manufacturing is leaving China for Indonesia and other Asian markets because they're not... They were always crappy quality,

but they were cheap, and now that's going away, and now they can't fulfill orders. I'm not worried about big China. Not worried about the Kung Flu. We'll see how quickly Genocide Joe recovers from the virus. That's what I want to see. We talked about how deadly this goddamn virus was.

Joe must have had six fucking boosters. Let's see how well he handles it. I think that'll be a little bit telling. He doesn't have COVID duty. Oh, he doesn't? He doesn't want to go out. Yeah, Taylor knows. Who's testing for COVID anymore?

Who really is? He has seven boosters. If he has the best doctors on earth, he's got 10 boosters for it, right? What's the timeline? With the president who's 81 years old, I guarantee the White House does probably regular COVID testing, I would assume.

Well, he was feeling down and jet lagged after that two-week flight. Yeah, 10 days later, he was still jet lagged. Happens to the best of us. I don't care whether or not he has COVID. I disagree so strongly with Kyle's

imperialist, I'll put it position that we need to have military in every corner of the world I kind of want an empire if I'm being real I want to keep the same system but I want a figurehead up there who's got kind of like how the UK does it you've got a prime minister

we have fair elections and all that but there's a king and the king's got a little bit of say he's not going anywhere he's not going to invade anywhere the king can king. And the king's got a little bit of say. He's not going anywhere. He's not going to invade anywhere. The king can't invade. The king can't send a predator strike. But he's got some sway with the government and with the people, and he's up there to be beloved,

to be, shall I say, worshipped. Just a little bit. Just a little bit. And I can think of no better man to be the king of America than Donald J. Trump. I like my president who don't get shot. I like my – He's in a very small group of presidents who got shot and lived through it.

Yeah, but he did it like a pussy, right? Theodore Roosevelt sat there and did two hours of speech. President Bunker Boy immediately hit the floor. He's like, oh, no no they pierced my ear an operation that nine-year-old girls don't even blink at and then he grabs his high heels and leaves the stage that's not impressive it was a cigarette wasn't uh wasn't president bunker boy hanging out or maybe folded papers in one case too there's been a couple of weird like um and you look arctic ferdinand they threw a grenade at that guy first, and the grenade didn't work.

And then it was like, oh, that was silly. An assassination attempt. I'm peckish. And they stop at the sandwich shop where the assassin's buddy is. I'm glad that didn't happen. Can you imagine? Hopefully, no more

assassination attempts. do you guys think another attempt is going to happen on trump's life no it's got to be or no really i think they're going to get security right going forward yeah they're going to triple his security i'm just making it up woody i'm three big old three big girls fuck something up twice i have yeah it's interesting to talk about a lot of people talk about the world like how taylor's talking about where it's like people describe things as sort of like the world being on fire and in a historical context there has never been a better time to be alive like there's like that in terms of like world peace like obviously you have certain

situations in you know congo and ukraine and in israel but you know our imagine our generation can't even imagine world war one world war two and and you know all the previous centuries of empire and conquest and blah blah blah it's just dude it would be so terrifying fucking good right now i agree i think that's largely uh technologically driven instead of politically driven though like we have excellent quality of life because our technology is so much further ahead than these other groups in the past. I don't think it's necessarily

that our political circumstances so much infinitely better that it's better for the... If you were to listen to the news, you would think that phoings are falling out of the sky every day. I think we're currently setting a record every day for the amount of time between airliner crashes like these things are doing

better than they ever have and all i hear about is how boeing's killing whistleblowers to hide their terrible planes which might be true but they're not crashing it was the advent of nuclear weaponry that I think directly led to this like period of peace that we have I mean of course we had like a cold war with all these proxy wars with with the Soviet Empire for decades you can make a ramble for everyone

there's like we know you love didn't if nukes didn't exist we would have had another world war three by then by now but you never went to war what are you talking about didn't your didn't would have had another world war three by then, uh, by now. Um, but you never went to war. What are you talking about? Didn't your, didn't your buddy who went to war, like love it.

If he were here, wouldn't he be like, you know, Kyle, you make it a lot of sense. Wars fucking sick. This one time. I cut him in half.

I've got multiple good friends who are Marines or were Marines rather. They didn't all lig on it and I can think of one who was like oh it's pretty tight Ukraine and Russia are fighting and then the other ones were like oh this is bad there's no reason if they're going to do this shit there's no reason for us to be in

their point was like I don't want to see US Marines dying in a Ukrainian field that's why we need to support them taylor so that u.s marines don't have we already fucking do they have a hundred billion dollars of your tax money so yeah but the boots the boots is they just love the attention yeah the boots on the ground i think i think the real thing is i'm so much less afraid of Russia than like the average liberal. I think like Russia can barely push back Ukraine with American assistance.

You think they have the manpower to push on a NATO country? Get real. Russia knows that if they pushed in on Poland, they would get butt fucked from every direction they have zero percent chance of victory they have no shot nothing hold up i think there's a real chance i i think there's a real chance that if russia did invade poland trump would be like you know what nato's kind of bullshit poland i never knew that person in the first place. I've forgotten all about Poland. How many Polacks does it take to defend an invasion? I mean, number one, Poland has a much more robust military structure than Ukraine, and so they could defend themselves better.

But number two, like all the other European nations, like they're in NATO. It's in Article 5. They would defend, and the U.S., who is basically – Trump wanted to pull out of NATO. He threatened to if they didn't pay their fair i'd be fine with that which is something you think the left but your argument was that european wars i don't know it seemed like you went from hey it's in article five there's no doubt to hey i'm fine with pulling out of our nato entirely pretty quickly stability in europe directly

benefits america too by the way like if europe actually broke out in war and like people you have these like strongmen doing these land grabs the the impact in the economy would be felt worldwide like so it's not just we don't just do these things out of the kindness of our hearts because it's the right thing to do we do that do we do we do stuff like send ukraine money it benefits us. They should stop importing immigrants into Europe if stability is important. What's that? They should stop importing all those immigrants into Europe if stability is important. I wasn't sure who Hutch asked what's that.

Go ahead, Taylor. I'm sorry. I was saying I think that it largely benefits defense contractors. All my beliefs politically have to do with what I believe would help the American public and the average American person. Wars in Ukraine do not help the average American citizen. Wars in the Middle East and promoting them and funding proxy wars does not benefit the average American citizen. We have enough problems on our plate domestically with our border and insert whatever, the opioid crisis, grocery, whatever you want to put in there. The issue is that our government seemingly has no thought in their head that they should be prioritizing how American people live and what benefits them. And any sort of government that is worth its salt should be entirely and totally dedicated to the increase of life quality of their citizenry. If it's not a valid government.

You're engaged in this populist rhetoric that's become really common in right-wing circles now. And I hear this argument a lot where it's like we shouldn't give ukraine aid when we have homeless veterans and yet when you see legislation like the pact act go up uh you see repub which expanded healthcare access to veterans that was signed into law under under uh joe biden uh and you see every republican voting against it. So how do you reconcile, what programs would you like to see enabled in lieu of money sent to Ukraine? None. Universal healthcare. I would like to see universal healthcare

and our borders be stringently guarded and illegals deported. We need that sort of thing to take care of our citizenry, the United States like that. That's the only thing our government should be caring about. You're talking about a multi trillion dollar. I mean, I agree with you.

I would love to see an NHS type system in the United States fully on board with that. It's interesting hearing that from a Republican, which, again, is like you're just. I'm not even a Republican. I've only ever voted for Trump. Right. Or like someone who's like you're just an interesting guy. Yeah, I'm not even a Republican. I've only ever voted for Trump. Right. Or like someone who's like conservative make the argument. But, you know, it just seems like like populist Republicans like Gates and Boebert and all them and Marjorie Taylor Greene, they always engage in this rhetoric. And then when it comes time to pass some kind of like social safety net program for that directly benefits Americans, they always oppose it. And so I don't it just rings so hollow to me to hear it from them yeah republicans are gay and i don't like them they're the worst like

republicans and at least democrats know how to play the politics game republicans are retards they're fucking idiots they can take they republicans can take an attempted assassination against their elected official and spin it into nonsense in two days like that's how bad at politics republicans are when you're on the blue side taylor it feels like the inverse of that like oh my gosh you know like democrats can never seem to get their messaging right democrats can never seem to have their act together how do these these Republicans go up there in lockstep and all agree, and Democrats can't do the messaging as well? That's how it feels. Earlier in the show, Taylor was saying that a certain percentage

of Republicans were retarded, and that very much frustrated him. That's how I feel about Democrats. I swear, if the Democratic Party aligned with most of my views, which is like, you know what? Lighten up on the gun thing. That whole DEI thing, ditch that platform. Let that go. That's just hurting you. It's racism on the other side. Then we would not be losing

the culture wars like we do. I feel like this is like a Fifi's over facts situation here. Feelings. In reality, the Republican Party, I mean, listen, fast situation here because because like in yeah feelings because like in reality in reality the republican party i mean listen the democrat the democrats right now are in disarray there's like a meme like dems in disarray and it's always like okay but right now it's literally happening right now there's some chaos right now for sure there's infighting there's there's uncertainty it's like

are you agreeing to be a democrat no no no i'm saying on a, it feels like Republicans always get everything they want and Democrats are always fighting. It's actually been the opposite for six years now, since 2018. I don't know about that, but like, but like particularly in the last six years, the Democrats have been like really unified. I mean, Pelosi did a phenomenal job of like keeping that caucus together, even with sort of like the insurgent forces like Cori Bush and Ilhan Omar and all them, like they, you know, they, they lined up behind the Democratic Party apparatus. And when you look at and we've been winning elections over and over and over again, like we've just been crushing Republicans in

elections. And then when you look at the Republicans, they ousted their own House Speaker for the first time in history, they they Mar Marjorie Taylor green tried to oust the second one because he wasn't extreme enough for them. And, uh, they're there. They made Donald Trump their nominee, even though he's been like dragging the party down for six years, just in terms of electoral. I think like, maybe, maybe as a, as a Trump voter, like who's not a Republican, like I like that Trump upsets and ruins Republican plans. I like that when they have their like little Mitch McConnell, we're going to do this and that and support Israel. And that's about it. And give lip service to everything else. I enjoy that he upsets them and that he causes problems in their bullshit, corrupt hierarchy.

He's super supportive. The same way that Trump, I think a lot of people are like me in that they vote for Trump because he's a real fuck you vote to establishment Republicans and to Democrats and to the media and to these unelected bureaucrats and the FBI and the CIA who clearly really don't like him. And so I don't think that can be understated. Like people talk about the best. Oh, the silent Trump voter. It's like, no, they were just people like me who weren't like MAGA hat wearing people. They're just people who are like, oh, this guy, he's hated by all these institutions and these structures that I hate. Well, fuck those structures. Fuck those institutions.

If they dislike him, that's my guy for now. That goes to my point, Taylor. There's weaknesses in the Democratic platform that frustrate me because when Republicans say, fuck you to, for example, guys being able to choose their, anyone being able to choose their sex, right? Like, ah, I'm a girl now. Boom. I'm going to start participating in swimming. That makes my side look terrible and I don't like it. And I'm like, oh man, why do we have this weakness that we can't condemn or, you know, amputate? Why do we have to sit here and defend that penn state woman who dominated women swimming or she was a division one man the year before it wasn't some like years

and years of hormone therapy did you see her she has a body i would kill to have right so far so far that hasn't so far that hasn't i mean this election i was like biden is exceptionally weak candidate and so we'll see how that goes but so far that has not translated the culture war stuff has not translated to electoral wins they try to run on the it has that's why the governor of virginia is a republican they sat there and ran against that's one incident incident. I mean, the governor of Virginia's situation was also. Woody, running unopposed with another victory. We've also seen Democrats flip multiple state legislatures, multiple Supreme Courts. We've

seen them flip multiple gubernatorial seats. We've seen them turn Arizona and Georgia blue in 2020. Probably not going to happen in 2024 but it frustrates me when i i feel like republicans are chasing ghosts right like critical race theory or uh you know these imaginary rapes that happen when cross dressers go in the wrong bathroom and i'm like why can't we just amputate this weakness out of our platform you mean the trans shit that's the weakness you want to take yeah because i think that it's a big part of the frustration and it's indefensible right or dei let's do that one right why is it not a meritocracy a meritocracy that's the civil rights act isn't it like dei is everything

that's everything that we're now at with trans shit in sports and DEI in general is like the culminate is the inevitable culmination of how the Civil Rights Act was crafted. I mean, it's like a cornerstone of your party, isn't it? I don't think so. I think DEI goes a little bit further than the civil rights. I see where I see where corporate structure. Further. Yeah, that's. No, I mean, I'm not convinced. Civil Rights Act is this. So, yeah, let's.

Well, yeah, let's make it illegal to hire white people then. I mean, that's what the extension of what we've written down here is. Yeah, it doesn't come from civil rights, though. This is the kind of racism that frustrates me. Like, to do the whole, like, these guys are excluded, I don't like that. We should just go to merit base. Now we do this thing where, like, we overlook people for certain races in college admissions. I know the Supreme Court rule against that but i like that supreme court ruling why does the

democratic platform have this non-meritocracy plank in it well so the premise there is that sorry go ahead dick you i was just going to say the civil rights act is what gave the government the right to look at race and how people are doing like private private businesses no i don't think so it's in the act though it's not true affirmative action came in the 80s or 90s affirmative action but the civil rights act said we can just making things up i don't think so what do you think title nine when it says title nine what do you think it's referring to stuff for that other than that title nine of the civil rights act i love that i think there is um there are obvious like good

faith debates to have about like sports and how we structure sports and i'm like i'm fine with those conversations but there was a really interesting um letter that that the governor of utah governor cox of utah wrote last year or the year before when the state legislature passed a law banning trans kids from competing in sports that correspond with their chosen identity. And he wrote this like beautiful, I thought it was a beautiful letter. And he highlighted what I think is the real problem, which is the fact that there were a total of four trans students that were participating in sports in the entire state of Utah. Three of them were trans boys.

One of them was a trans girl. And he highlighted the fact that gender affirming care leads to substantially reduced from all the volume of data that we have so far, substantially reduced instances of suicidality. Those studies are from pro trans firms, largely. It is tremendous. Like the idea that like, see,

this is a culture war thing that I the, the, the idea that like, see, this is a culture war thing that I can like dislike is the idea that there are trans kids. That's ridiculous. You're going to put sexually confused kids. You're going to put sexually confused kids on hormone blockers that will permanently alter their physio, uh, their insane. You typically don't do hormone blockers until like late teens. Puberty blockers are the extent. There are some countries in Europe that are like pausing that to take a second look at it. But I challenge you to like- Do you think a 12 year old can consent to having their biology neutered and destroyed at that age there are no 12 year olds are they getting that actual sex changes i don't know where you're getting that no there's but they're being put on

hormone therapy but do you yes or no i don't even think 12 years are getting hormone therapy again that hormone therapy you typically don't prescribe yeah they are they're in their late yeah they are they are being put on that there was a tlc show they were in texas well hang on i mean like hormones are puberty blockers here i mean here's like that that is like that's what this whole thing in texas is going on where this doctor this whistleblower who was speaking out about these um yeah this is to 11 to 17 year olds in texas he's being the justice department is taking him on right now. He's got a ton of charges. He said puberty blockers, right? Yeah, the puberty blocker drug they use

is the same one they use for chemically castrating. The quotation is puberty blockers and other hormones to children between the ages of 11 and 17. What do you think the difference is between hormones and puberty blockers?

If you put a healthy child on estrogenic hormones, that will block their puberty. Puberty blockers are meant to delay puberty, and hormone therapy will actually induce a physiological change in the body. There is a substantive difference between the two. I mean, I'm interested in that. Do you think either one is okay? You think one of those is okay? Hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm interested in having a conversation. I'm interested in looking at the data, whatever it shows. And I'm agnostic. I'm whatever it is. I have no inherent bias one

way or another. But what you can't dispute is that generally speaking, gender affirming care reduces suicidality and this is what governor cox wrote in his it doesn't you can dispute that there no i there's i don't know where you're getting this we have studies we have meta studies that go into the pro-trans side yeah the trans population is the most apt to suicide population in the country and what they observe is that there is substantial risk, mitigation of that risk, anywhere between 50% and 80% reduction in suicidality after they get gender-affirming care. That's obviously false.

Yeah, that's true. I mean, this is like you saying— I don't think so, defense. I mean, you're putting kids on fucking hormone drugs and 80% less kill themselves? That's nuts. Yeah. What do you need some gender-affirming care when he was that age? He could have used a little testosterone.

Oh, my God. I am not a child. I don't have a degree to know that it is damaging to put healthy children on hormones that will impact their body in a negative way. Do you know how much more cancer there is for young girls who take exogenous testosterone therapy? A lot. It turns out you're not supposed to do that. Taylor, I have a question. Testosterone doesn't cause cancer, Taylor.

Don't tell me that. I would have to look at your studies. Well, it probably probably wouldn't for you kyle because you're a biological male but it definitely wouldn't right taylor taylor taylor when i was young i waited for puberty and it didn't come and it didn't come and it didn't come until i was way too old would you have given me gender affirming care to be the boy I wanted to be? Yeah. Yeah. Right? No.

I would have waited so that you could be the man you are today. Oh, my God. I'm 16 years old with no armpit hair. This is not fair. Yes. He has late-onset puberty. He needs a little boost, a little kick in the ass to get – Dude, he's got those butterfly-wing pubic hairs. It's absurd.

Even if he had some fucking charisma and he could have gotten laid at 12 or 13, if a girl had seen that, you're so lucky you didn't get laid at 12 or 13. If a girl had seen your butterfly wing dick hair, it would have been the talk of the town because that is the most hilarious thing I've ever heard. Is it smooth and straight

it's the opposite of a racing stripe that the girls do i just had it on the two sides i thought everyone's pubic hair came in so slowly that they spent 18 months with it just on the quarters yeah you thought it was like a reverse hitler mustache but it wasn't i just had one growing in for a long time it was like three or four feet long it's like a reverse Hitler mustache, but it wasn't. I just had one growing in for a long time. It was like three or four feet long. I was like, what's going on here, man? God damn. With the trans thing, I always think back to Star Trek II, Wrath of Khan.

Ah, an astute place to take your beliefs. You know, Spock has to go inside the engine chamber where it's incredibly radioactive, and it would have instantly killed a human but because of his Vulcan physiology he's able to go in there and fix the engine and they escape and everybody lives and Kirk rushes to the screen there's this glass between them because he's so irradiated it would

kill Kirk to even touch him and and he's like and he's like the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one and he's all like pockmarked from the radiation and he dies kirk loses his best friend he says my once and always friend and that's what i think whenever i hear that there's three trans kids in like montana who can't play fucking beach volleyball i'm'm like, well, sucks. You know,

you know what? I didn't, I just didn't make the fucking team. I got through it. Get over it. You know what I mean? Like, like they didn't let me play.

Cause I sucked. Imagine that. Imagine how that feels. I toughed it out. Does it ever get to a point where it feels like a pile on when we talk about like trans people, we talk about, we're talking about a,

a community. He's going to pile on when you dig a hole and crawl in. We're talking about a group of people that have report higher instances of abuse higher instances of domestic abuse from their own parents higher rates of bullying from their from their peers and so join the club welcome aboard to humanity wait wait i want to look at this just to me when i look at this it resembles it resembles that like i understand people have good faith concerns about kids and we can have those conversations and i would i would i would hope that people would be agnostic to like the data and whatever that shows wait hutch you asked the question but you didn't stop

for any answers you just kept answering it yourself i'm sorry go ahead yeah people have a higher rate of suicidality than jews under nazi germany do you think the oppression they're feeling is greater than that do you think that the social stigma contributes to that almost had an answer nah didn't get an answer no no no not at all like you you think that the stigma of jews under nazi germany is similar to this because like well no i didn't say it shows showing trans characters all over the place you're putting words in my mouth i'm obviously not making the case that trans people that live in the United States had it worse than like Jews and Dachau. But there is a reason why they have a higher rate of suicidality than like veterans. Yes, there is.

And I think people like you jump to the conclusion that the reason is because they are mentally ill and people are feeding into their delusion. That's just not what like the psyche i think that they need i think it's obvious that they need help mentally and that the people the worst thing you could do is is telling them the worst that what you're saying is that you know people should just tell them like hey toughen up you're not a girl blah blah blah it just doesn't work there's no data to support this idea that you're going to reduce their suicidality or get them to a mental. What do you mean? This wasn't a social trend. I don't care about. There wasn't a social trend. I, I,

I, I guess I'm just not. No, no, no. Trans people. I do for decades. It just became,

it just became more of a prominent feature. Oh, there's been a social movement of this before five years ago. Really? Because, because the Supreme court legalized gay marriage. And so, uh,

conservatives lost that fight and they just moved on to the next thing this is the same kind of queer panic that was happening in the fucking 80s and 90s well that sounds a little people are cutting their dicks off you're saying that's the same kind of queer panic that was happening in the 80s i'm saying that i'm saying that the demonization is the same you guys they said the same thing about queer people they said the same thing about gay people if we legalize gay marriage they're going to want to legalize pedophilia next or if they legalize gay marriage then they're going to want to marry their horses and shit like this dr disrespects opinion isn't included here um so the pedo pro pedo thing is done but the thing is this i just want to be nice to people let's go with a no like victimizing policy the reason i don't like that woman who competed on

the penn state women's team even though she was a guy the year before is because i felt like everyone else in swimming that year was her victim right that makes it wrong to me but if she wants me to call her she i have a thousand percent on board i just want to be nice to people and not have any victims here. If that doesn't seem to be the Democratic platform, it's let her complete and let her compete. I don't like that. I don't like

that either. It just doesn't work. Just for sports, if we just make it the sports and we leave the bathrooms and the dressing rooms and all that stuff out, just the sports, come the fuck on. They've got to be separated. They've got to be separated.

Imagine combat sport or anything with contact. You have to be an actual retarded person to think that a biological man should be able to fight a biological woman in a fair UFC match. You can't just be misguided. You have to be an actual retard, like someone

who takes all evidence of... Those aren't good fights. There's a Freak Fight League. Have y'all watched the Freak Fight League? They just do stuff like that. They'll have three women take on a man. They had two little guys take on the world's strongest man. He beat the

fuck out of them. I guess I'm an actual retard because I feel like it should be merit-based, right? Like, there are a few women who could beat up a few guys, right? You know, everyone grabs Ronda Rousey, right? Ronda Rousey would beat most at least a lot of men.

Most men? I don't know where it goes. But if you put some chump against Ronda Rousey, that's a fight I'm okay with because it's even and fair and merit-based. And if that means that if Taylor is referring strictly to world-class versus world-class, then of course he's right. But just make it merit-based. I remember there was a Japanese or Korean girl that they were talking about putting on the PGA tour. That would have been interesting.

I've been fine with that, but it's, it's like, you can't go the other way. You can't have like, like Tiger Woods is in the twilight of his career. There are people complaining. Some guy complained that he gets like an exemption into the Masters or whatever, and they asked Tiger about him – the guy complaining and saying that Tiger should just get out and retire because he has no shot. Tiger's like, yeah, I get an exemption because I'm a former champion. Actually, I won twice here. He doesn't have such an exemption.

And so even when I'm his age, I'll still be able to play Actually, I won twice here. He doesn't have such an exemption. And so even when I'm his age, I'll still be able to play here. But he never will. And it was like, damn, that's mean. I love Tiger Woods. But if he were to decide he was a lady, Igress Woods, and he stepped down to the LPGA and started running shop, come on, that's not fair to those ladies.

Yeah. Yeah, it's ridiculous. you can't let a guy compete with a bunch of girls in high school fucking softball just because the evidence is he says i am a girl yeah and many sports that work with the mind you know the physical difference but yeah chess driving in general like in many ways this feels like the most superficial sort of aspect of the entire discussion and it's just that it's the biggest focus and it just doesn't make sense to me but it's the end result it's the end result of the make-believe and i'll pretend and i'll i'll be sweet to you and I'll call you that. The end result is there's a six foot four man

swimming with college age women and winning the NCAA fucking tournament. Like that's the end result of all the flowery language and the appeasement. People largely on the left will say like, oh, why are they even paying so much attention to this issue? It's so niche. And then those same people will fight tooth and nail to

make sure that a biological man can compete with biological women in a contest and so it's like actually okay so you're pretending that the people who are against this are the ones fighting tooth and nail when in reality it's the people pushing it i actually think that the median dem voter agrees with you guys broadly about like the sports stuff it for sure they don't it's way on the normal normal people do yeah right that's what i'm talking about this is like a super online thing where people will like i think it's fine to have the debate about sports like it's an interesting conversation and i don't think there's like an easy like i don't think there's necessarily like an easy solution if you do like a trans only sports league it's like well what the fuck does

that mean if you live in montana you don't get have to travel eight hours to do a thing or whatever. If you're such a good athlete that being left out is going to change your financial well-being, I bet your parents can get you to a state over where they allow boys to beat up girls. Don't worry. We'll get you in there. Regardless, I just think this is the most superficial part of the debate. But Hutch, that's why I brought it up. It's not important. Then why not let it go? It's not a huge issue, but it gets so much airtime

that it's an unnecessary weakness for the blue team. Well, it's a place where we can- Like gun violence. Woody is so right on that assessment, 100%. It is such a clear and evident weakness on the blue team. It's just not. We need to use our political capital to say that boys should be able to compete against, or that boys can magically

become girls if they say so. It's a ridiculous success. You can call it a culture war weakness, but so far, it has not manifested in electoral wins. Say it again. What is going to point to Virginia?

It's like a preacher say it again yes sir they tried to do the 2022 2022 the republicans were running on this trans stuff like primarily all over the country that was like the thing that they were pushing the hardest and it did not work out well for them like dobbs ended up being a way more salient issue to voters than than the trans stuff so it's death by a thousand yeah it's not the most it did not work out well for them. Like Dobbs ended up being a way more salient issue to voters than, than the trans stuff. So it's death by a thousand. It's not the most, it's not the most salient issue to democratic or Republican voters,

but it is something that undercuts Democrats. So like when I see Democrats dying on the Hill of little boys can pretend to be little girls and we need to encourage that and put them on puberty blockers. Like, I'm like, this is, this is so obvious. Can I tell you why it's a good issue issue for the right the reason it's a good issue for the right is it allows the right it is because they're correct well the reason it's a

good issue for the right is they're able to tear away voters um from the left who otherwise they'd never be able to touch like like very religiously conservative uh brown people and black people who are like, wait, what now? Thank you. Wait, what? That's what we're doing now? You can tear them away with enough of like trans terror or like red. It's like the trans fear, like the version of red fear, whatever you want to pink fear, whatever. And enough of that will tear away some of those, especially like Catholic Mexicans.

Oh, I don't know about that one. They're not getting on board with some of that stuff. And it's shocking. And if you show like the really it's just like when Trump references that one governor who was probably misquoted, who said something about the post birth abortion, like you put it on the table and then you decide like whatever that quote is, I'm sure he's quoting something, but it's horseshit. It was a, it was a non viable fetus that he was talking about.

He was not talking about, he was, yes. Okay. I believe. Yeah. I can't imagine a doctor putting a healthy baby on a table and be like, we'll figure you out in a minute.

Motherfucker. Sure. Well, let me, let me go see if you're, let me get some, hit your mom with some smelling salts and decide if I get to use old choppy here.

Like, I don't think that happened. He's got like a monogrammed baby crushing bat. He's like the Negan of abortionists. I think he was on Fox News when they asked him about late term abortions and Buttigieg

killed that question. It's one of the reasons I and half dozens of us support this guy. He was like these babies have names. These babies, their parents painted that nursery. They bought their crib. When someone aborts a baby in the eighth and ninth month, it's not because they just didn't want kids. It's because that mom was going to die or that baby was never going to live.

die or that baby was never going to live. You guys painting this like it's some sort of elective procedure where they're taking babies to eight and nine months and then kill it out of convenience or financial issues. That's not what happens. And something about the idea that these kids had names and nurseries that were painted with cribs in them and mobiles. I'm like, goddamn, that's what a late term abortion is like. and mobiles i'm like goddamn that's what a late-term abortion is like trump acting like they pull the baby out and stab its brain because the parent didn't want it is misleading when he said it i knew it was good we should err on the side of caution and just get rid of

abortion just you know yeah you know. Yeah. Because all these kids have names and cribs, right? Hey, Taylor, I am curious about. Don't you bigot. What exceptions would you allow? Like life of the mother? Life of the mother, 100%. Once a kid was going to be ugly, they could tell. Like real ugly.

Like perfectly healthy, but like Steve Buscemi. But if Steve Buscemi fucked that guy from Ice Cream Shack, you know, the crazy guy from The Waterboy. Steve Buscemi is an excellent actor, I think largely because of his... No talent. Talentless, we can tell. Yeah, we keep this guy. You didn't mention fatties, Kyle, though. You want me on your team, you know what to do. A little cardio can fix that.

What if they know the it has to be the natural life of the mother you should be able to abort the fetus for like half a dozen reasons reasons like obviously incest makes sense and rape makes sense and all you got to do to figure out the rape makes sense is put yourself in that scenario and all of a sudden rape makes sense and obviously becomes rape well you know that is uh that is a slippery slope but i think it's just one that we have to stomach and and and and here's what we need to do here's what my counter argument my counter argument would be that that you prosecute any woman who lies about a rape heavily which i think should already be true like like send a woman who got raped to prison though no no no a woman who

lied a woman who lied about getting raped no no no no a woman who lied a woman who lied about getting raped no no we prove it if we prove it in court no we don't know because it's a lot of he said she said in every race no no but in some scenarios we will know because they'll text with their buddy there'll be a text chain there'll be a conspiracy where he's like girl you know what to say tell him rashad made you take that shit. Tell them they forced you. Tell them you was drunk, dude. It'd be something like that. And then we'll have that evidence. So then you rape a girl and then you say, you better text your fucking friend right Sorry, my Chinese accent is terrible. That you're making this up.

You can't do Chinese. I'm raping you. I used to feel that if a woman falsely accused someone of rape they should get the here's my here's my current stance okay guys the unintended consequence of it is that what time is it wait you got 39 more minutes you can do it three minutes to 21 seconds three no three hours to 21 minutes sack when i don't want to say that they should get that anymore. The unintended consequence of women getting the punishment that

they would have gotten is that they'll have to stick to their story. Women can never back off this thing. They have to take it to the end or suddenly they're going to jail for 20 years. To be clear, it is illegal to falsely accuse someone of rape. The punishments are typically not equivalent, right?

Like you rape someone, you go up the river for 20 years. I'm making that up, but it's right-ish. And unless you're proctored. And your life's ruined. Your reputation's ruined. And your life's ruined. Your wife divorces you and takes your kids. But on the other side, it's over.

A woman who gets caught lying gets like 6, 12 months or something like that. It's not parallel. But if it was, you're forcing women to stick to their story or there's a huge consequence. But anyway, if some ladies lie about getting raped then that's just the broken eggs in the fair and balanced abortion policy

and Kyle Land, if I'm making things. And what's really important and I feel like it needs to be states and federally, it needs to be states and federally, we need to define when a woman's life is in danger. And I'm not worried about a few slipping through. I'm worried about the other end when they're like, yeah, this is a non-viable fetus. And if we wait six months, then it's going to start killing you. So we're going to wait six months. I'd rather they were like, hey, in six months, it's going to start killing you. So we're going to wait six months. I'd rather they were like, hey, in six months, this is going to start killing you. So we're going to take it out now.

There's a reason why Biden, who was never a particularly popular president, who was presiding in 2022 over really bad inflation. There's a reason why the Democrats didn't get crushed in the 2022 midterms. The gate in the Senate. I have a question. Why do they always abort the fetus? Why don't they take it out and put it in some sort of a pod? Or freeze it or something?

IVF is freezing it. Well, why do we always have to kill them? If there's viable fetuses that are being aborted, why can't we get them out of there and find them a new place to live that won't be so mean? And petty. Like death Stranding or Standing? Well, I haven't played that, but I know he's got

that tank with a little fetus on his back looking all fucking gross like a guano. That game is incredible. That game is fucking incredible, by the way. What have you been playing lately? I want to shift away from baby murder and trans women. I think Woody said that women need to be graped earlier.

He shouldn't have said that. That'll definitely get removed from the record. There'll be a silent spot there, and rest assured that Woody was the one. There will not be a silent spot. Hutch, what are you snacking on? What was brought to you by your wonderful lady? She brought me something healthy. It's a spinach salad with chicken and I think couscous and cherry tomatoes and Parmesan cheese.

Oh, couscous. The worst grain. I don't know. Quinoa, quinoa, quinoa, quinoa. Sorry. Oh, okay. Quinoa's alright. Oh, couscous. I was thinking couscous was quinoa. Yeah, couscous is some Italian chick. Quinoa's alright. It's just like little pasta balls.

They're really good though. Now, Hutch, I'm about to open up the biggest window to you ever for us to be friends. Do you play Age of Empires 2? I've never even heard of it. He's like, fuck you. The best answer possible. You know, I played with this game.

It came out in like 1997. It's the greatest. Have you heard of Avatar Frontiers of Pandora? I have now it's like an ubisoft kind of bar guy reskinned in the avatar universe and it's fucking amazing oh don't you want to get into a 15 year old

rts is that what age of empire 2 is is that what that is they remastered it they remastered it in 2019, you fucking bitch. I know. It looks like Sega Saturn graphics now. It's sick.

It looks great. It's an awesome game. It's fine that you personally, Kyle, don't have the APM to play anything other than first-person shooters. I don't have the mind for it. Some guys are just casual gamers who play first-person shooters, and that's all right. You don't have the No, he got into Baldur's Gate 3, I remember. Dude, I loved Baldur's Gate 3.

I played it four or five times all the way through. I played it with my girlfriend watching over her back. I played it modded. That game is a masterpiece. I think it won all the Game of the Year awards at every award show. And everybody told me I'm not supposed to like it because you can turn into a trans man and

fuck a bear, but I was like, that's fucking sick. That's where that shit belongs, is in fantasy video games. If there's ever a place to turn into a woman and have sex with a bear, it's online. I'm all for that. Give them an outlet. Baldur's Gate 3, I think is...

I haven't heard of Age of Empires. It might be the greatest game I've ever played. I think it is. Like, as far as... Kyle, are you... Sorry. Are you able to watch your girlfriend play over her shoulder and still have a happy relationship? No.

Because I've found that I... Yeah. No. She did this thing... There's this part where you kill this hag, and if you spare her, she'll give you a chunk of her hair, and it gives you what, you've got, like, a special skill thing, you know, like, and your build is very dependent on what your special scores are, like, how many points you put into strength versus agility versus different kinds of magicka and shit. And so it was key for her to take that hag hair and, like, put it into her intelligence or her wisdom or her charisma. And you have to figure out how to tell her to do that

without starting World War III. They're damage multipliers, those three skills. So pumping as many of those little, oh, and plus one to this on that skill allows you to hit hard as fuck in the end game and really make the build that you've been playing for dozens of hours come to its full power level. It's very important.

I came back and she had chosen the wrong shit and then played for hours ahead with no save point. I was like, it's ruined. It's ruined. You've ruined it. If it was me, I'd start up. When I watch Esme play,

when I watch Esme, I physically can't help myself i'm like honey did you try rolling or did you try going in the other room oh man i just cannot it's just so difficult for me so you guys are like a league above because my wife only plays the easiest games like lego and she's great at it she's got the um like uh cheat guides next to her like how to find everything how to get 100 completion in the world's easiest game have you ever died in lego do you know what happens nothing you're instantly reassembled on the spot you keep playing like nothing matters in that whole game and that's what she likes what have you been playing hutch like have you been playing any like shooters or um i go back and i i play i replay a bunch of like big open world games so i was playing cyberpunk

last week and then i got back into like avatar and then i i played skyrim probably seven times all the way through and i want to play uh have you ever played the mod that allows you to play skyrim together with other people i think it's called skyrim together no, but there's so many crazy mods for Skyrim at this point. It's like a totally new game. It's like you're playing it on a PS5. Exactly. I want to play it with Taylor so that he could be like a dwarf with a battle axe

and I could be Legolas or some shit. We could do that, Taylor. We could play Skyrim as the guys from Lord of the Rings. We could have an Aragorn, a Legolas, and a Gimli and spe speck or shit like that role play and you could do voices and you could have salted fork be great be great and then you wouldn't play that 15 year old rts anymore you play a 15 year old rpg which is like a man it's crazy how much bethesda has sort of like lost the confidence of their of their um their consumers because they were just on cloud nine with skyrim like it was just you know one of the most universally acclaimed games of the time like ever and then fallout 4 came out and people started to sour a little bit and then fallout 76

came out and they really started to sour apparently that got better after launch for a little bit yeah and then starfield came out and i really liked that game, but it definitely had problems. So they just don't have the same kind of reputation that they did. No, it's Rockstar. Rockstar are the rock stars of big open-world RPGs. Everybody's so psyched for the new GTA, and you know it's going to be good, and you know it's not going to be like a Cyberpunk situation

where it's like, give us three or four months. We'll get it together. Then the torso won't keep falling off your character in elevators cyber i thought you weren't gonna play the new gta kyle what are you talking about i'm so that's the game that i'm like focused on is it's the new gta it's that game where you play as an anthill and you're like the queen ant and you can go to war against like the termites and the queen ant is riding a fucking snail war against like the termites and the queen ant is riding a fucking snail in the battle this is gta no it's a different fucking game am i the snail grounded i think you're talking about

i've played ground he wants to play as a fucking ant walking around. My favorite part was Taylor's like, I thought you were going to play GTA. I was like, Taylor, you ignorant slut. Everybody's going to play GTA. GTA is going to be gargantuan. It's going to have really sick online. What if it misses? I don't believe they can miss.

Red Dead is such a fucking masterpiece, such a cultural game for so many people I think they're gonna they've learned so much by all the stuff they've done with GTA 5 and the way they've progressed that game and grown that game I can't see them possibly missing it's going to be the game of the fucking year

it's going to be this thing that people play for 8-10 years from now until they make the next one. People have their expectations so high. If this thing doesn't change Western culture, it's not a good movie. Rockstar has literally never missed. I've been playing that game since PlayStation 2.

GTA Vice City. Amazing game. I'll bet you $5 after it comes out, I think they missed. What is the last Rockstar game? Red Dead Redemption 2? It was one of the best games of all time. Red Dead 2 is easily one of the best games of all time. Yeah, Red Dead 2 is a ton

of fun. Have they ever made a miss? No. They came out with a ping pong game and it was awesome. It was a large title for the Xbox 360. They literally made a ping pong game and it was awesome. Remember that? It was a launch title for the Xbox 360. They literally made a ping pong game and it was fun as hell.

I bet it is. But I don't have anything to play right now. I've honestly been watching old Bully. Bully was a cool game. I remember it being a controversy. And it is. Think about that. That's a shitty fucking game

to make. You play as like a middle school bully and I think you get points by like stealing lunch money and roughing up nerds. I think you play as the guy being bullied, don't you? Do you? I never played it. I'd want to play as the bully. L.A. Noire is probably

It should be like GTA but you're a middle school bully. You're like running little side games and robbing kids yeah I remember hearing about LA yeah it's probably like their least popular game but it's people still love that game like a movie it's one of those games that looks it's like yeah I bet you knocked it out of the park for what you were going for but I really don't want to play a movie you know I don't want to it's an interactive movie I remember watching Wings of Redemption stream it and like he really took the time to like role play and choose the right choices and it was like it's just like you're watching a fucking movie like this is this is too much that

i just keep getting square like that i i found ways i felt like to be tactical and approach the the scenarios from from interesting um avenues There's just so many ways to play in different ways in that game. I found the replayability to just be infinite almost. I kind of want to play it now. It's still turn-based, though, and turn-based can be fun briefly for me personally, but I can't just get obsessed with a turn-based game. I can because I love that lull between turns. It's almost like

chess. Not that I play chess, but it's almost like that part in chess where you get to contemplate your next move while observing how they're reacting. What part of chess do you like most? The part with the horsey. I like that piece. That thing's cool. I like that part of the game.

But yeah, GTA is the thing I'm looking forward to most. But I wish there was a shooter that I could get into. I kind of swore Tarkov off and cursed their name after they came up with that $250 bundle that was just full of nonsense. Dude, all I'll say is you make fun of me for playing AoE 2, and then you'll get really into a game like, oh, this new Chinese Tarkov is awesome. And three days later, you're bored and shit of it. No, that's not true.

You're not playing it. Once again. It took three weeks, Taylor. Once again, made up facts. Right wing Taylor. Just off the hip. He's a stupid retard. Everyone knows he's a stupid retard. Everyone knows he's a stupid retard.

Everyone's talking about it. That's Arena Brokeout Infinite and that was a beta that came out. It was fantastic. Everybody agrees it's fantastic. When the full game releases, it's something that I think I'll play a lot because it was fun. I liked that game.

It's a mobile game I thought that they ported to PC. Yeah, that's Final It's a mobile game I thought that they ported to PC. Yeah, that's Kyle's Speed, a mobile game. It's a Tarkov shooter without any of the bullshit, and you're paying China off instead of the Russians, which I guess is kind of better. It's a Chinese game, CCP. Are you kidding?

China is so much scarier than Russia. You could pour money into Russia for a hundred years. Listen to him talk, folks. They got him in their pocket. Got him in their pocket, all those Russian oligarchs. Have you played that game that's like all the mobile games that are a trick to get you to play the game, but it's actually those games in one game?

Wait, what? You know how all the mobile games have fun-looking games, and then you go download it, and it's like a fun game? Yeah, that was a baffling phrase. Please clarify. It makes sense. After you see it, it makes sense. You know when you see an ad for a game, and it looks like a fun game, but then you go click on it, and that fun game lasts for like 20 seconds, and then you've got to play a bunch of like resource management bullshit and it turns

out to be a scam somebody made a game of all those games that are just the fun parts of the game in a game without like without the scam are those the ads where like it's a it's a guy running from zombies and he's shooting at barrels with like a number on them. And you get a power up and you like got two guys and stuff. You know that one? Yeah. That looks fun. Those are the ads that always get community noted on Twitter. It'll always be like, the game is nothing like this.

Not like that. Somebody made the game of those games. And I want to play it, but I don't want to get fooled again. So I haven't downloaded it. What you three should play is Chain Together. It is amazing. Oh, no. We get so upset.

I get so fucking pissed off. Okay, so you've got two characters doing good platforming when they're chained together. Up to four. Up to four. You're chained together with a literal chain in-game, and you're platforming. You're jumping on like like

like moving and you have to time sometimes you have to time it correctly and utilize the fact that you've got this chain of men and you can use the physics of it it would look we're all varied skill levels everybody would be angry though because of like like there'd be one person yeah but kyle yeah it wouldn't it wouldn't upset me that you guys are lower skill gamers. It would be fun. Dude, you play RTS. Do you think that translates to anything at all? It means I can click more accurately. Oh, I bet you can program your home security system

so fast, bro. Cool. I bet if I deleted all your favorites on your radio, you could just fucking program them right in. No, that's true. I bet playing solely RTS has made my APM way lower than you fucking skulking through gray warehouses in

Tarkov. I click on hits, motherfucker! I click on hits! God damn it. Do you? Yes! No, he's a rat. He's a rat. He tells us every week he's a rat. He doesn't click on hits. They discovered the chess play styles. I promise that Woody and I would not intentionally

sabotage the game. If it was really funny the way that you got so angry, I wouldn't invoke that. No, if we play a game, look, I would love to play Among Us. I always love, we play this game called Codenames in our Patreon Hangouts. That's linked down there below if you want to send us some more monies.

And I love that game. It's a word association game and we play as a team. Lately, I've been trying to take it really lightly and it's easy to take it lightly, frankly, when we don't get to pick our teams. If you got to pick your team, you'd feel

kind of responsible for it. It's like kickball, but if you just get assigned to the team, you're like, if I lose with this group, then I lose. Who fucking cares? But we get angry sometimes. We get pretty fucking upset at that.

And that's just, it's a word game. It's like Pictionary. And we get furious. So if we play Chain together, I would genuinely be upset so quickly. I remember one time playing Dead Space 3 with Woody and I kept fucking up

and I was ready to scream. I was ready to scream. i'll never play scribbly with you again no of course you won't because i'm the best scribbly player of all time you're the best in the world perhaps you should be streaming it on twitch to the people's gasps and and and wide-eyed one trailer's like one of those geo guessers but for scribio, it's wild how good he is. He types 100 words a minute. He knows every word seemingly and how to spell it. It's fucking wild. He types 130 words a minute.

He has a very good vocabulary and he's an okay drawer. It's a real problem. I'm trying as hard as I can to stay in second or third occasionally, but if you miss one word, you drop so far because we've got a dozen people playing. You drop to ninth. You fuck up I'm trying as hard as I can to stay in second or third occasionally. But if you miss one word, you drop so far because we've got like a dozen people playing. You drop the ninth, you fuck up once.

And he's just right at the top. Every fucking game. We stop playing it. We don't play it anymore. I won't play it. If they start playing it, I won't be part of it. Dude, I was so good at a game in the Patreon hangout that they banned it. Let's play a game called What's in Kyle that they banned it. What's in a game called

What's in Kyle's Hand? Let's do that. That's a bad comment. I was getting dozens of points on certain times where I'm like these retards don't know how to spell shibboleth. Or just some random word.

It was obelisk. It was obelisk. And no one knew how to spell fucking obelisk. Nobody knew how to fucking spell it. And you could see them failing in the chat. Like rapid fire fails. Because if you get it, the quicker you get it,

the more points you get. And also like getting it after someone is a real deficit for you too. You can't even get this. You don't have the same pool of points. And so like they're just fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail, fail. These ridiculous phonetic spellings for things that make them look

like third graders. It's humiliating if you're down there. I won't play with him anymore. I think he might be cheating somehow. No, I'm just... I'm good at words and I'm good at typing. I don't know. I don't know.

You might have some sort of stenographer program. I think he's got one of those stenographer programs. You shouldn't die nearby. When I'm playing. Ping! It would honestly be excellent at that game because one of my favorite tweet threads

and things that Dick does on Twitter is he will, because Dick's an author, will subtweet other authors and just like in a mean pedantic way, be like misplaced comma should be a semicolon, two independent clauses, incorrect, incorrect, incorrect, and just go in on that kind of thing. Yeah, people hate that.

Oh, it's so funny. I love when you do that. It's so fun someone some author will be like i'm trying my best i'm doing it and dick immediately swoops in yeah not good enough look at this syntax error retry it again and then you also follow it up by having almost impeccable syntax in your tweets itself even when you're in one of your rages and so no one can come back at you for the same critique it's it's important to have good spelling you know yeah

but it is yeah we we don't play uh the thing about that rts is i feel like you're just there like like the virtual world you're going into i just feel like you're kind of constrained to this little square and i really like games now where i go and wander like i like playing daisy and just wandering around and trying to stay alive in the fucking cold i kind of like exploring and looting and being like a i don't know like a james not less of a james bond and more of an indiana jones and games like that there's an indiana jones game coming out and it looks incredible but you see i need to do it in a PvP environment like it's very important to me that my gains are your losses like if we all were kumbaya

some communistic system where every time I got points everybody got points I'll lose interest in that quickly but if it's Tarkov where it's where I can kill someone that's how AoE2 works it's an ELO system oh really I doubt it well it is it says you're ELO

okay go check again man i would i was gonna say if you like exploration that no man's sky just came out with this update and it looks like stunning stunning and that's a game where you're it's like infinite planets and you can just travel around it's all procedurallyurally generated. It's more kind of like Minecraft, but it's relaxing and fun. I need to shoot stuff and steal things. That's my jam. That's why GTA interests me so much because, I don't know, I like looter shooters.

I like extraction shooters. I like going and occasionally getting a rare thing. I like that to be in a game where I remember when I first started gaming, Skyrim was one of the first games I ever really played as an RPG. And I didn't know how the loot pools worked. I thought that maybe if I went in this cave, there'd just be the most rare thing of all time. But that's not the case.

It's all level capped and it's only going to be five levels above your level or something like that, roughly. But with Tarkov, like you can suddenly find 30 million rubles worth of shit on the ground, and you're filled with terror because you only have a million. This is game-changing. Three weeks from now, you'll be spending this money in the game. The terror that I feel when I find a red card or something. You're like the Stakes. Oh, my God.

My heart pounds. i genuinely get shaky hands where i have to like yeah like slap the adrenaline out of my hands because they'll go my fingertips go numb and i just can't get that from rts you should play um you should play games in hardcore like no respawn mode that's what i've started doing recently i did it with oh an rpg like that no like diablo 4 i played it recently and i invested literally like 60 hours into this character and it fucking died and it was just the worst feeling ever but the whole time you're playing it just adds this like element of you played a hardcore character on diablo 4 and they died and they died yeah it was 60 hours but

60 hours like when you're playing it makes you beat the whole time yeah that actually does sound fun I beat Dead Space back in the day on I think one life or something like that so I've done that before I also need that facet of the game

to be that there's PVP there's other players out there who are are gonna laugh at me if i fail like that's what i hate i don't mind dying but i don't want to embarrass myself when you fail at aoe too when you don't have the requisite apm to structure your economy and i'm rating you and you're struggling and you don't know how to pull your villagers back i'll laugh at you i promise there promise. There's PvP in Diablo, but it's not... It's not the same. I played a good bit of Diablo, like maybe 100 hours, 200 hours or something.

Have you guys played StarCraft or any RTSs? Yeah, aren't you aware? So back in the day, I played a ton of StarCraft too, and I actually got to play for Team USA. No, you didn't. We went to South Korea. Yeah, yeah. And had quite the showing there.

Alright, you and Wings of Redemption on the same team, I suppose. He was on the team, yeah. That was your story. Getting so good at StarCraft that you can go play against Koreans. Which you can't because that's all they play. It's like their national sport over there guys like i know you both like games you never venture into the rts genre at all really maybe like command and conquer red alert was probably the

last one red alert was all right yeah company of heroes company of heroes the world war ii top down now if you want to get into that i I'll jump in head over heels. More than anyone, I feel like Hutch would like it, because Hutch is a gamer. He likes strategy. You're into chess. I know you're into chess. That's kind of what Age of Empires is. No, I get it.

I'm with Kyle. I'm more like boom, boom, shoot, shoot. That's more my jam. Fair enough. Ah, damn. No wonder it's a dying genre dying genre can't even get people on my fucking podcast dude if that ant game is an rts sign me up i'll play the termites you can play the fire ants and we'll we'll jam dude every night running strats finding the meta civilization coming out so civ six seven seven's coming out um i play when is it coming in i've got over a thousand hours of civ five um but i hated civ six oh this year i'll try out civ like i'm thinking about

getting really good at like street fighter and going to evo in vegas mostly just to go get a pad but you're gonna get a little little joystick i going to get a little joystick? Is that what I have to do, a joystick? That's how the real dudes do it, yeah. Did you say you did that in the past, or you want to do that? No, I had that fantasy this week when I learned that. Yeah, I mean, you are Hispanic. You act as if this is a goal you could accomplish. It's not that big a deal.

But what if I could, Woody? Yeah, I mean, I was thinking about running a sub-three-hour marathon. When are you going to start running? We're not going to doubt you, though. Jesus, tearing that man's dream out of his fucking chest. Maybe I could win one. I'm very cheap. I'm very cheap at video games.

Yeah, Kyle, when I get mad, I run so fast. Lots of low kicks. Lots of easy XX combos. And I get into your head and I start saying low kick low kick yeah

Taylor I'm sorry Dick I didn't know that sometimes you do lots of low kicks in a row I'm sure they have no defense

that trips people up it does yeah these guys won't know what hit them I bet they don't deal with that strategy much that's the genre I didn't expect this guy

to do so many low kicks yeah and then I say low kick low kick you know seemingly all the best with that strategy much. I didn't expect this guy to do so many low kicks. I say low kick. Seemingly, all the best people at every fighting game are Hispanic. I don't know how that works. It's a cultural thing. They all look like they're half Mexican, half

Korean, and you can't tell which half. I gotta go like this. Ah, hello everyone! But they're the sickest Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat't tell which half. I gotta go like this. Ah, hello everyone! But they're the sickest Street Fighter Mortal Kombat players in the world. I can't get into those fucking games. It seems like because each one is basically just a new iteration

with new characters, the people who've been playing it have been playing it. It's like Counter-Strike. It's like, I'd love to go play some Counter-Strike. I wish I played as a kid and I would have that foundation. Like,ers who uh who played counter-strike as a kid it's like your dad just being a wrestling fan if you're gonna be an mma fighter and having you in a in a in a wrestling mat when you're three years old like it's just such good bones for that um i was watching uh landmark and um uh summit we're in in some random CSGO tournament recently.

They won like $25,000. They destroyed the other team. The other team was streamers too. Watching them click, it's like, how many hours do they have in this fucking game? A lot of those CS pros are in their 40s now. And they're still just rocking it. Yeah, it's crazy. I mean the pros on Na'Vi.

Oh, okay. I see. Who's the other guy who came from csgo he's very good at games he's kind of looking for yeah in my opinion shroud is like the best click on head fucking fps gamer in the on twitch like i've seen him do such gnarly, crazy flicks and sprays. And his game sense is outrageous. Sometimes he'll call the shots like he's Babe Ruth. And it'll just be ridiculous. I've never seen people do what Trout can do. Yeah.

I've seen Trout do stuff. What was PUBG? That's what I was looking for. You drive by in a car and people start shooting at the car any reasonable person would like what go to safety find a position drive zigzags he jumps out of the car he's like how dare you and he just starts rushing towards the gunfire beats the ball like all right this guy's different yeah he was tremendous at pub g uh i wish that game hadn't died i love that game

and i love the culture in that game so much i i i had so much fun playing with my friends um like the ability to like win one or lose one and get right back in over and over would you describe the culture in the game um silly lots of memes lots of like self-made memes and referential stuff because you had this open chat in the beginning of the game because there's 100 people going to be dropped on the island and you're going to fight until there's only one left. Or you can do quads where there's teams of four mixed in.

Everybody's mics used to be open and all your characters were crammed into this waiting area where you could talk mad shit. Or you could just be silly. Yeah, there was that African thing. For streamers, it could be toxic. What would they say?

They would make a snake. Some guy would start crawling on the ground, and he would say, snake, snake, snake with me. Snake, snake, snake with me. And everybody would go prone and make this giant snake. And you'd have a hundred-person human centipede going in a circle by the end.

And it was like this cult mentality. China number one was probably one of the biggest memes. Everybody's talking shit and talking about what they're going to do. Challenging you to land in a certain place. Go to Pachinki. Yeah, drop fucking Pachinki. Come to school. You realize PUBG is

still thriving, right? I tried to play three years ago and there were bots and it seemed like it was dead. Is it really still popular? Dude, it's still huge. Mobile or on PC? No, even on Steam. Go to Steam charts.

Hold on, Steam charts. Like I said, I tried to play three years ago roughly with my buddy and some duos and some solos and there were bots in the game because they couldn't fill 100 player queue anymore. There's currently 95,000. It's the number eight most most played game right now um it's still very healthy again i i bet it's had a can you can you see like can you see the viewership like stretched out over like six or eight months like maybe it's recently p because i have seen like more content from it um recently i think jack frags got, got, did a, did a paid video.

It goes, it has, um, no, it's been pretty, it plateaued down like around 2020, but it plateaued at a pretty healthy level. Yeah.

Like very few games can do that. Like people realize that most, most games die after like 60 days. That's just, you know, 99% of games. Um, so when people like clown on call of

duty for example for losing like 80 of the launch week numbers but then plateauing at that level that's actually like insanely good for games did uh did you play hell divers i did a little bit i didn't really love it like i just so it wasn't really for me i liked it i liked it but eventually you've done it all you've done everything you can do and you've unlocked all the shit like once I unlocked everything I was done yeah they seem to be done with that pretty rapidly they self sabotaged with the PSN thing

it really destroyed their player base and now that game just fell off a cliff yeah that was stupid and I see them so you could only get the rarest currency if you played on the 7 out of 10 difficulty and that's about as good as i can play is on seven um it's it's seven is fucking hard i think i can play on eight i think we beat eight fairly regularly if i had a full party but it's really

fucking hard and they like relented and like lowered that level cap down to a lower level so that all the noobs could farm their rare currency finally. A bunch of things annoyed me with that game. But once you've done it, you've done it. And I mostly just wanted to role play Starship Troopers because they just copy-pasted Starship Troopers for vast parts of that game's story and aesthetic. And I love that movie. And sort of as a kid, I was the perfect age.

I watched it in theaters with my dad, Starship Troopers. That was a nice awkward titty scene right in the middle there. But I remembered, like, I would have dreams about fighting those bugs and, like, shooting them with a machine gun like they do in the movie. And, like, that scene where they're holding down the fort and the waves of bugs are coming and they're all spraying together to, like, 13-year-old me or whatever, I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen. I would love to do this. i wish i could fight the bugs and so like i don't know as a man grown it's cool that was a really cool part of the game to be able to role play that

and it's not barely even role play it's kind of just the story yeah those headlines that your producer linked are pretty yeah that was me oh was that you yeah so for the audience the headlines are people close to biden say he appears to accept he may leave the race expectations rising among the democrats that biden will reconsider meaning leave end of biden's candidacy candidacy approaches many senior biden officials believe he must drop out as he becomes increasingly isolated. You know what I see there, Woody? Loud pops heard at Trump rally. Trump has to be assisted after falling. Loud bangs heard outside Trump rally. That's not what you see in that link? No. What I'm telling you is cut from the same cloth of

journalists. Fake news. I think this is fake news a i think this is i think this is fake news i think this is being printed to further pressure biden they're like sir they're already saying that you're considering even if you're not like like that's the that's the public sentiment they think no he people people i need him to stay and i already bet it i mean i have people in my i'll say anything i had people in in my own audience push back a lot. They did not like me saying, but as soon as, was it last week? As soon as last, I think it was last Wednesday.

As soon as Pelosi said what she said, which was subtle, but very calculated. We're talking about someone who's very careful about what kind of language she uses. Is that what she said? You mean, wait till after NATO? She said on a morning show that just happened to be biden's favorite morning show which was morning joe uh so she decided to appear on that show and then when they asked her what do you think biden should do she said you know well whatever he he decides to do blah blah blah blah blah but the issue was he had already said i'm

staying in the race so when she did that that was her saying to him this is not over you know this discussion is ongoing and as soon as she did did that i was like okay i didn't believe that he was going to drop out before but by the way you know what it even if you're like the further not you in particular but like the audience at large or anyone listening even if you're the furthest to the left and you don't want to believe like 538 or Real Clear Politics or me, fucking expert me and my take on how the election is going to play out. Go to Nancy Pelosi, who must have the best inside polling that money can can buy and the highest levels of access to it. And what is she saying to the president? You can't win. You're going to lose the House and the Senate.

Yes. You can't win. That's her lose the house and the senate yes you can't win that's her take and and who knows better than her who's more who's more of a realist maybe she's even getting the incentive of a sunny outlook on things and they're telling them she's gonna it's not even just about the polling either it's about it's about his like does anybody at this point have faith that he can reassure voters who were concerned after his debate performance no like you know what the problem is when he went to reassure people like me i wasn't reassured no it was like all right that was a bad day i had a bad 90 minutes this is the real me and i'm like that's not better and then he did it again and again yeah yes it was not

it was not good i didn It was shocking to behold. I get honest. Every time he would do it, he went like Stephanopoulos. Kyle, do you want to do that? I couldn't hear your words, Taylor. I was saying, we should do an election night episode.

Even if all the results don't come in in time, I think that would be a lot of fun. We should do it. We could do PKN early. We could do PKN on Monday that week and then PKN stream it and do our

little comments, our little jokes. That'd be really fun. Or record the episode during whatever we do. But it would be fun to have those live results be a little bit of be fun to have those live results. Yeah, that'd be fun. A little bit of the show. You get those live reactions.

We have some shit talk on our bets. Woody and I had a bet. We did $100 that Trump would be the nominee for the Republican Party. And $100 that Trump would also be the president of the United States. And we made this bet a year ago? Something like that, yeah. Yeah, a long time ago. I'll bet you, I need a bet to get in on it.

How about I bet either of you $100 that no matter who gets elected, they will breathlessly support Israel. Look, you anti-Semitic Midwesterner who's surrounded by a bubble of nonsense. We stand with Israel for a reason. Ask your grandparents why we stand with Israel. They'll tell you.

They'll tell him. I didn't realize you had a Hamas supporter on this podcast. That's the land of Jesus Christ. Oh, it's Palestine Joe over there. Israel drags us down. I don't want anything to do with these. They hold us up.

Taylor, they're underground, shoring up the foundations in Brooklyn as we speak. Okay? The Jews hold us up. Okay? We need them. Martin Luther King called them one of the most important democracies in the world.

Rosa Parks was a huge Zionist who supported... A lot of civil rights leaders like equated their struggle for You love those people, right Taylor? Right Taylor? Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King? You know Rosa Parks? Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King? You got a Rosa Parks tattoo, right?

That was like a thing because I have a huge Rosa Parks back piece. I'm sitting here, motherfucker. Yeah. That's crazy. Taylor's anti-Israel stance offends me as a Christian. It offends me as a

Christian as well. I gotta say, like, you know, I read my Bible. I am more Christian than either of you and that is... Oh, please, sir. That doesn't sound very Christian to me. Yeah, right. If you were more Christian than me, then you'd be supporting Israel. And you want to undermine the prophecy that will ring in the rapture?

Is that what you're saying? What prophecy? That's hokum. Nonsense. Can't we just dig it up and move the whole Israel to Missouri or something? No. I think it would be cheaper. No, I think that we should just leave and they can do their own thing over there.

It's fine. Well, that's not happening. Mine's fine. That's not happening. You hear all the time about how the US can project their power with just a simple aircraft carrier. I got an idea. We need to support Israel because we can't support

Quick question. We can't float a fucking boat to the Mediterranean. For some reason I feel it's relevant. How many Jews were killed in the Holocaust, Taylor? What time is it? Dude, don't even try and get me. My camera's messing up

too, guys. What time is it? Hundreds of them. Too edgy, too edgy for dick, for Christ's sakes. Too many. That's how you can suss out one of these anti-Semites in five seconds, folks. Just pay attention. They get all, there weren't enough furnaces.

Kyle, I think that 10 million were killed. Nah, you're being sarcastic. That's a bad answer. Who's the anti-Semite now? I think it was more like 20 million it was definitely 20 million you think 20 i'm headed towards it's like the scene in succession where the the the one guy who's like the tucker carlson of the show who's suspected of have you guys seen that show by the way oh yeah oh man and he's like okay well i just gotta ask you a few questions uh

how many jews do you think were killed in world War II? And he goes, just checking the till here. I think you're a couple million short. No, you can always suss out that anti-Semite nonsense. Quick quiz. Taylor, I'm going to pray for you. I don't know why you don't stand with Israel, dude. They dropped, we had all them 2,000 pound bombs. We didn't know why you don't stand with Israel dude they dropped we had all them 2,000 pound bombs we didn't know what to do with and they're like

bro could we use a few thousand of those 2,000 make it 12,000 of them give me 12,000 of those 2,000 pound bombs nothing fires them up like Israel I've noticed Taylor's trying to claim that we don't get anything he doesn't understand how

the system really works We give them weapons of war They give us political donations Yeah Where would we be? APAC is not even in the top 10 lobbyists I mean, they spend a lot of money, to be fair But they're not even in the top, like, 60, I think

Influential, I don't know Somehow it seems to be a big deal There must be some reason we're so steadfast, supportive Yeah, like, look at APAC They must be controlling something we're so steadfast supportive. Yeah. Like look at, look at APAC. It must be controlling something really important,

huh? Oh my goodness. I don't know. Like how, I mean, what would happen to them if the United States like withdrew our support, they would probably just, they would probably like form an alliance with like Russia or China out of,

out of self preservation. So they'd probably be fine because they're a first world military country and we don't need to be giving them fucking money anymore they're fine like do what they want to do but it's not but it's it's not our problem it shouldn't be our problem i'm happy to sell them weapons i'm making money here that i'm okay with that it's giving them weapons i don't like wait you kind of like giving them to them i like when we give them to them and they use them. Kyle's version of watching war is so funny because he's really into the equipment

that's used. He loves the tech. That's one of his favorite parts. Dude, it's like, you ever watch that show, Future Weapons on Discovery Channel back in the day? It's like, god damn it, I wish I could see somebody get shot with that heat ray. If only they'd shoot the sticky foam on a real criminal and I could laugh at him.

And you never got that. And it was a letdown. It was blue balls. And suddenly here comes the modern age of tiny cameras in every phone and GoPros galore. And suddenly you can watch motherfuckers explode in Ukraine. You can watch entire blocks get leveled in Palestine. And it's all in beautiful 4k. You can see first person shooter gunfights that look more hardcore than any video game

you've ever played, but because it's real fucking people going corridor through corridor, spraying lock and loading. It's cool. I love that shit. The drone footage is a little rough. That'll eat your soul away if you watch too much of that because, uh, you know, those guys get blown apart and then they suicide themselves and it's dark and sometimes

they're all burning up alive and shit. They're like... They're burning and melting. People melt. I don't know if y'all knew this, but people melt. You see them melting and they're still alive and it's a little fucked. Have you seen the one where the guy points to his head and his buddy just shoots it and continues on walking?

Yeah. That's a good friend right there. I gonna tell you if i'm out there look if we've we've already had that conversation if the three of us are in a five of us are in a foxhole out there in ukraine maybe like he's not going well for his comrades i'm gonna tell you tomorrow it could be me it could be sergey could be dimitri I don't know any other Russian names, but if I go down, put me out of my misery, please. If I tell you to, don't hesitate. I'm sober,

as sober as a Russian soldier gets, and I'm telling you, if I go down and I tell you to put me down, put me down because I'm in excruciating pain, or I know I can't get out of there, and I don't want there to be any more thought. We'd have had this conversation because we're in a war zone where people are getting their dicks blown off left and fucking right, shrapnel blowing their fucking eyes out of their head,

just nasty, awful butt holes leaking, just all sorts of napalm burning people alive. I saw a guy make the stupidest decision of all time the other day. He had five gallons of gasoline he tried to throw at an explosive drone. He hit it and it turned him into a fireball of death. In agony, burnt alive in a goddamn field in Ukraine.

I love that one of Kyle's consistent positions is like, I'm not going to go through life with nine fingers. Just end it. Speaking of ending it. That's a good friend. You guys ready to wrap i've had just so much goddamn fun woody i'd do another hour if you'd let me but i i know you won't no kyle no i hate politics all right what you got what you guys have is like really rare to

have like a 12-year podcast where you still like really enjoy talking to each other that's that's dude it's fun as fuck you. You just joke around. Yeah, we debate felching. If it weren't for the assassinations this entire episode would have been like, well, it's not that gay to eat cum. I don't know.

I believe you. That's about right. I don't think any of us are that principled. We do the best we can with what we've got. Thank you, Hutch. But then Nick Riccata got arrested and Trump got shot.

This is a little too much happening for me. This isn't what I had in mind. But at least it's interesting. Thanks, guys. Check out Hutch. Oh, and there definitely wasn't anyone intentionally But at least it's interesting. Thanks, guys. Check out Dick. Check out Hutch. Links below. Oh, and there definitely wasn't anyone intentionally, like, throwing you in here on purpose without warning.

We definitely didn't do that on purpose in any way. No, no, no. I think that was just a weird scheduling thing, and I hope you don't feel bad about that. I loved watching you guys go back and forth, and that was the highlight of the show to me. Yeah, that was fun. I can compartmentalize so i mean i can put the political stuff over here and everything else over here so it was fun sparring with you dick i wish you nothing but the best and whatever and uh yeah thanks for having me on beautiful always it's fun get out there and vote everybody you

gotta outvote their steel this time you can't outvote me. They'll just add a zero. We're going to ring it again and there's nothing you can do to stop us. Yes. Alright, Zach, please.