Painkiller Already - We Came Out Of The Closet Tonight! PKA 718 W/ Oompaville

Episode Date: September 21, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and we'll be back. PKA 718 with our guest, Caleb. Caleb, thank you so much. Uh last minute replacement and a good one. So, I appreciate it. This episode's brought to you by Blue Chew, Lock and Load and our wonderful merch and apparently, it will
Starting point is 00:00:19 never be brought to you by Lunchly. You know, first of all, I would love it if our show was brought to people by Lunchy. I don't know whyaleb's such a hater, but i'm sure he's going to tell us. Yes Yeah, i'm i'm to be honest. I'm not a hater too much. So I had it. I I tasted them. They sent me a box it's more so the um The idea of saying that these are better than lunchables because these don't have lead in them is a bad way to market them I'd say yeah, I don't know. I'm convinced. I like lead free food. Is that their selling point?
Starting point is 00:00:44 Well, it's uh, there there is there is lead in these as well way to market them, I'd say. I don't know, I'm convinced. I like lead-free food. Is that their selling point? Well, there is lead in these as well. That's the idea. Yeah. Damn, we had a little head on that lead thing so hard. Yeah. If it's got feastables in it, it's got lead in it. So let's back up a little.
Starting point is 00:00:58 This is all about Mr. Beast parking up with the Paul brother and KSI and doing this whole lunchables competitor. And everybody knows what a fucking lunchable is. It's those silly little. Ham and cheese and cracker packets that they sell for six dollars to children, at least at least that much of the lunchable cost, probably seven or eight dollars. It's ridiculous. So long since I've had one.
Starting point is 00:01:21 Yeah, you get a five dollar foot long. What are they thinking? It was cool. It was 1999, right? Yeah, you get a $5 foot long. What are they thinking? It was cool that I was a kid. It's 1999, right? Yeah, good, good, good, forever. Anyway, this is Mr. Beast, partnered with the Paul brothers, and he made a new Lunchable. Well, he partnered with Logan Paul and KSI.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Okay. Okay. Yeah, Prime. I don't need it, they're friends, but okay. Yeah, it's a it's a prime prime feastables colab and they made lunchally upsetting the market Upsetting the market great business idea like I just feel like oh, yeah, they're fan bases children like I Can imagine a world where if you don't have this in your lunch bag, you're not the cool kid at school
Starting point is 00:02:03 Definitely. Yeah, you know what I was ordering? I was genius yesterday and there's a third tier below Lunchables. There's like a knockoff, like it's called like lunches or something. And it's like I can't remember what it's called. It's called a can't Lunchable, I guess. It's and it was, yeah, and they'd really rag on you. You brought this shit, I bet. Oh, yeah, you get roasted.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Damn. But so what's so bad about it like I hear that there's yeah, but I saw your thumbnails that say mr. Beast is evil I'm the guy who you know, here's people's blindness and makes fun game show. Yeah, what did he do? so my the reason that I don't like it which I think is very different a lot of people don't like it just because it's youtubers making more money. Oh, my horse. I hate that. Which yeah, it's like, to be honest, I don't really care that much about that angle. That's something that people obviously are rightfully, you know, they're pushing slop to kids. Like, okay, well, that's like our whole, every single ounce of programming you are exposed to is
Starting point is 00:03:02 pushing slop to you in some form or another. So it's like, yeah, YouTubers are just part of the system. Like it's not to me, it's like a big non-starter for that kind of argument. But what my my big thing is, there was a tweet when it first dropped from this Minecraft YouTuber Dan TDM, and he was talking about how YouTubers are always doing that, you know, they're just like, what does this even become? They're just, you know, YouTubers just are pushing shit to kids to make money. And that's it. Like, it's not about quality products or anything along those lines at this point.
Starting point is 00:03:34 And he was specifically calling out Mr. B's KSI and Logan Paul. And then Logan Paul decided to respond by saying that YouTubers want to build businesses, they want to build brands, which is like a cool response. It makes sense to see standing on business. And then the second part, though, was you failed to mention that Lunchables allegedly contains lead and you're mad at us for offering a better for you alternative, which is implying that their product does not have lead and also implying that Lunchables allegedly has led, which Lunchables does have
Starting point is 00:04:05 lead in it. And so does everything else as well. The amount of lead that's in Lunchables is in everything, literally everything. Like it's, it's, it's total. It's a total, like the guy is promoting a food product and he is, he is a fool. He's actually a fool. That would be like... Most people don't know that. If you're making a food product, you should, but most people have no idea. The FDA has a monographed level under which they go, that doesn't count as lead. You're
Starting point is 00:04:37 good to ship. Well, it's parts per billion. So it's like the size of, one part per billion would be like a hair in 68 square miles. So it's like, not a lot. Yeah. But everything's got lead in it. Lead is everywhere. It's like a, it's a pervasive element. So, and things turn into lead over time and things degrade and turn into lead over time. So it's like a, you know, it's like, it's obviously, but we used to, yeah, we used to have 400 parts per million in everything in the 20th century. And now it's the legal, to even be sold in California, everything has to be below 100 parts per billion, which is not a lot. And if it's above that, it has to have the Prop 65, like you know how you see furniture
Starting point is 00:05:19 that's like, this is not allowed in California, this calls birth defects, whatever. It means it has a little bit of lead in it um So aside from logan paul Saying their competitor has led Also, which they had a couple of weak things. They're like our product has way more electrolytes and i'm like you mean These athletic six-year-olds But I was saying
Starting point is 00:05:43 If everything has led then maybe Logan Paul was a little shady and implying that his competitors had led than his but there isn't anything bad about their product question mark. No, no, I don't I don't think so. I think the argument the only valid argument in my mind which is a very food based brain is I mean a you just don't like them. That's fine. That's totally cool, right? Like you're you're allowed to think that that that all that stuff's bad
Starting point is 00:06:08 But if I'm going to eat some shit food, which I do eat shit food occasionally And I'm given the choice between Lunchables and lunchly. I'm gonna choose lunchly Okay, if it's not an ethical if I'm not like, you know grandstanding at fucking H eb at 2 a.m. And I'm thinking about my morals and ethics, which I don't Yeah, I'm gonna be choosing lunchly. Is that cuz it actually tastes better It I had some today. They sent me a box I tweeted at Logan Paul. He didn't respond but I thanked him And I busted into it and it was it was I haven't had a lunchable since I maybe I don't even remember if I've ever
Starting point is 00:06:42 even had one really But it was there it was it was just you know junk food. It was good It tasted like salt and cheese and pepperoni and fucking yeah, just the most heavily processed Pressings with processed cheese and nice Processed yeah You know, that's that's what kids. Yeah. That's what kids love Real lunch no, it's the to me the big thing is just lead and how how dumb it is like this guy's a purveyor of snacks he's like a It's a very niche thing to be upset about is you know my products healthier
Starting point is 00:07:25 because it doesn't have lead in it and it does he's lying that's not true or he doesn't know I mean he's just a spokesman trying to like well you know his his hit to you you could say that but he had a follow-up tweet where he said that they run their products through x-ray and metal detectors to make sure there's no lead in them, which is not how that works either. No. No. No. No. They do that, I bet, looking for metal shavings to happen.
Starting point is 00:07:49 They do. Exactly. Yeah. Foreign objects. Yeah. But lead in your product is not a foreign object. We're talking about parts per billion. And he's good at lying. You can tell. He tells half truths. Yeah. He had a little video of a metal detector. It's like, look guys, we put our metal detector. There's no Latin ours nobody alright you should do a commercial where like there's a line for the club and then the luncheys are in line and the Lunchables are in line and the luncheys are getting yeah right through right through and then Lunchables show up
Starting point is 00:08:15 whoa you got something on you bro nah nah not on me no what you talking about strip they pat him down they find the big chunks of lead. Birdshot? Yeah, birdshot. What is this? How about this? The guy who has the luncheley goes straight through airport security, gets his flight on time, and the guy who brought lunchables is looking on frowning as he's having an anal cavity search. A grumpy fat person.
Starting point is 00:08:42 That'd be a good commercial. You've been eating lunchables, sir? That one's free, Jake. Pop the glove on. Yeah, that grumpy fat person. That'd be a good commercial. You've been eating Lunchables, sir. That one's free, Jake. Pop the glove on. That's a good, that's a better idea than this. Who would use that? He doesn't have a PR person? He clearly does. I think he does. He's done this before. He's run defense before for Prime in regard to this PFAS thing.
Starting point is 00:09:05 They're these forever chemicals that went viral a couple months ago. Prime contains three times the amount of forever chemicals you're ever supposed to have in your life or whatever the fuck. Then he actually responded with a well-researched response. He's done this before. I think he just maybe he's like, do we have, is there lead in lunch? And then, and then they're like, well, no, we don't put lead in lunch.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And he's like, there's no lead in this because our competitors put lead in it. Yeah. As if they're sinister. They're like, we're losing too much money giving them full servings of hand pressing. Led is cheaper than Turkey. Lead poisoned kids aren't as it probably is. Right. You could see to make sure I wait my daily minimum arm led and every lunch. You suddenly you'd make millions. Yeah, exactly vitamin L Vitamin PB
Starting point is 00:09:54 There you go. So well, it doesn't seem like there's too much controversy going on just I mean they're selling junk food to children Which is yeah, you know see I don't even like doing that. They're selling an alternative to what's got to be the most popular lunch option for a certain demographic of kids already. In London, it's a household name. We all know it. Yeah. And it's, we have like, oh, the processed food.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Like, we don't all eat that processed food. Yeah, of course. Like, Jesus Christ. I love processed cheese. It's delicious. It's the best cheese. You're not going to have me ripping on processed cheese. But I mean, it is. Yeah, of course. Like, Jesus Christ, I love, I love processed cheese. It's delicious. It's the best cheese. You're not going to have me ripping on processed cheese. But I mean, it is.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Or charcuterie. I'm under no delusion when I'm eating that stuff, that I'm doing something good for me. Yeah, of course. I'm in my 30s. No one can stop me. Yeah, but I wouldn't attack the company that may. I saw Reddit go on ham on it and I was like, man,
Starting point is 00:10:44 they must make these with like slave labor or that that must not be ham that must be cat like wait I can get the download stumbled by a shoeless Cambodian on a dirt floor But instead reddit is like shilling for Kraft Heinz for some reason because they should make the money It's because it's not a youtuber like are you mad? money. They're the ones who make Lunchables. Yes, because it's not a YouTuber. Like, are you mad? Are you mad that Kraft Heinz bottom line might not be so fat this year that it might go to a Paul brother?
Starting point is 00:11:10 Are there really people saying that? That's really embarrassing. No one is saying that, but me. But my point is like, why attack them when like the alternative is a multi-billion, I don't even know how much money Kraft has worth. Oh, many billions. Shit. Two billions.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Bill I don't even know how much money crap yet work in any billions. It's two millions to also think that there's an overlap that Someone with equity and one doesn't have equity in the other like to think that this is Logan Paul KSI and mr. Beast doing this is Just as stupid as thinking that there's not lead in Lunchables or that there is who's involved I mean, I have no idea but I'm sure a conglomeration is similar to prime. It's like it's made by 3D energy, which is owned by like six other different companies. Like it's just all parts of parts of parts of parts
Starting point is 00:11:53 of parts that make up a whole. I'm pretty sure Logan Paul's not wearing an apron, just plastic things with crack. I doubt it. Yeah, but I wonder what his percentage of ownership is. You know, does he own 1% of the company or does he own 25% of the company? It's huge difference. Maybe it was a fractional percentage.
Starting point is 00:12:08 You know, maybe he's just a spokesperson. He doesn't have any percentage. He's just paid X amount of money to shill. I don't know. It matters to me, I guess a little. Yeah. But the idea that like, oh, look at these YouTubers, fucking industrious bastards, what is right? These capitalists. What are you?
Starting point is 00:12:25 What are you mad about? You get mad at the Mars Corporation to everyone's mad at Mr. Beast for some reason. It seems fashionable to be mad at him because he knows somebody who misbehaved in a bad way. And I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:39 I'm not on board. I'm not a Mr. Beast seem like a really nice guy. And he's done so many good deeds. And you guys just wipe that all away because his friend was bad. I think you're right. It's just trendy to be like, oh, no These youtubers trying to make a bunch of money. It's like oh by selling the same stuff that You know Procter and Gamble has available at every grocery store across the country or the biggest like like are you? It's just like getting mad at like cigarette companies again.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah. To what extent. That's that's how I'm kind of like viewing it is to to is the the the nature of YouTube is like how high of a horse can you sit on at all times like that's kind of like the whole it's kind of like the whole thing and Mr. Beast I mean he's done this himself he's like started his videos by you, fucking what is it called? Generosity bombing people. He has put himself there.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And I feel like that's sort of what you've gotta expect. If you are the pinnacle, if you're going to be that guy, you're gonna be the Team Seize guy, you're also gonna be the guy who's gonna get massively criticized by a small group of people, relatively speaking, whenever you do something that is just run of the mill status quo corporatism, you know, taking a market share, being aggressive capitalists. Like I feel like it's just implied.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I think you're right. Was it Pokimane that came out with that like $26 box of cookies? Miner? Yeah. All right. So like that to me, even that I'm like, I'm like, what's your problem? Don't buy it. They're like, yeah, she's selling like just this tiny box of gourmet
Starting point is 00:14:12 cookies and they're thirty dollars, like crazy. And people like, oh, what are you doing? You monster. It's like, don't buy them. Don't buy them. It's not to me like you can't afford expensive cookies.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And maybe that's hurting your feelings right now But why are you attacking the lady who sells expensive cookies go down to gucci? Go down to gore cream at them for their 800 dollar wallets for that situation. There's a very similar thing So once again, I made a content about that because i'm in the food industry Yeah, uh, and the big problem with her was that she was saying that they were healthier It was a better for you because it had vitamin D in it. It had two micrograms Micrograms like that's two I use that's going out in the Sun for 15 seconds literally Cookies and like that's me. I need some cookies
Starting point is 00:15:07 It's a diminishing return very quickly. So they added like a cunt hair, my father would say of vitamin D to be able to have the little sun logo on the fucking product. It's just like, that's where for me, it's like, okay, you're, you're lying. You're being purposefully dishonest about something you don't have to lie about. Like what Kyle is saying, like it's just these are gourmet cookies. Why not just launch that? It doesn't have to be better for you. Like that doesn't it's not going to work. You can't make things better for you. Unless you're not fucking cookies. That should be part of the pitch. Are they better for you? Absolutely not. That's so that's that's literally what we do with I have a candy company.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Company's use one gram of butter. That's what we reach the table with. Introducing the Marlboro Triple Red. Five times more dense than the average cigarette. Hey, so good. It's an adapter for the neck port. Yeah. I know nothing of this situation other than what you've presented just now. But I could imagine some of the people are being mad in Mr. Beast's comment section. Maybe they're very young people who have only seen like the generosity bombing that he's done And so they're watching being like this guy just goes around and donates money to people
Starting point is 00:16:31 That's what he does and they don't they didn't fully get that like his main operation is he's running a business Yeah, he's coming a billionaire. They see a very overt business move and they're like what I thought this guy just was handing money out You know Yeah, of course business move and they're like, what? I thought this guy just was handing money out, you know, by the fistful. You think he'll get there with a B? A billionaire? Of course. I wouldn't be surprised if like, yeah, if his EBITDA across the board was over a B right now,
Starting point is 00:16:56 I wouldn't be surprised. Yep, he's just got such a big platform. I mean, if he wanted to go full sellout mode right now, he could probably turn a hundred million in profit. Like all he has to do is say hi. You'll get a negative little lash back every time you do it, depending on how hard you do it. Obviously he's, I mean, they're giving him shit
Starting point is 00:17:15 about these luncheys, which I don't get. I think the real thing I want to know about, and maybe Zach's inferring that, or implying that you might know a little bit more about it, would the employee ad that it's trans I think don't pack this away that person's name or so Chris David Tyson Yeah, okay I don't I don't know much about that
Starting point is 00:17:32 But I know that that person was inappropriately messaging minors and where have I heard that before and that that person was trans It was already catching a lot of flak because they were trans Mr. Beast was standing by that person during the transition. He was taken flack because of that. But I've heard people suggest that it's this is somehow bad for Mr. Beast. Like did he knowingly like I that this person was messaging miners did he or something like what? Why is that bad on Mr. Beast and not just bad on his former employee who was messaging miners. So you'll have to forgive me. I'm not totally, totally tightened up on this. I've made a couple videos on it, but it's one of those things where after I go into it, I brain dump and I do something else immediately after
Starting point is 00:18:17 because it's like valueless information for me and it makes me upset. So it's like, so the main thing is the Ava Tyson thing. That's what started it all. That is Mr. Beast's trans friend who is into some really weird shit. And people are saying Mr. Beast had to know Mr. Beast had to know. It's just like the standard conspiratorial stuff. You know, people really are mad about that. And then that compounded with this guy named Delaware, who is a registered sex offender who was in a couple of videos and they knew about it or something. Mr. B is like his manager for a short period of time. And then he was friends with this other guy fucking Jake the Viking. You guys know that is shake the Vikings. Okay. It's fucking he's like core in the he's house Baratheon if you kind of think about it like that. Yeah. And
Starting point is 00:19:10 the Mr. Beast is like pretty cool. Cool. Pretty chill. Yeah. Pretty chill. A little overweight. Yeah. But is but is his like brother-in-law is kind of a pedophile. Let's be real. Yeah. And, and so, so it's this guy, Delaware, hires a land assistant. Yeah. He's, he's the, he's, he's the one who got killed by the, the ghoul. I don't fucking remember. Let's move away from David Therese reference. So yeah, that's the main thing though is, is just guilty by association. Mr. Beast. Plus that on top of this fellow dog pack 404 made a bunch of videos on him, interviewed a bunch of people, and just got, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:51 if you are a person running a business, you're gonna have bad experiences with people, and if you are not, if you don't have a proper, if you're running a business and you don't have HR and you don't have PR training and you aren't running things through lawyers, you're going to be making mistakes all the time. Like if you don't have HR and you don't have PR training and you aren't running things through lawyers, you're going to be making mistakes all the time. If you don't have a small business
Starting point is 00:20:09 of 10 people that are your best friends, which is what his operation started as, and you grow that and you don't grow that with the nature of business in mind and that it is incredibly competitive, and people want to see you fail, there's money to be made by through failure. So you need like HR, you need all the stuff. They just didn't do any of that. And like, so that there's all these little loose ends that keep coming out of like people saying that Mr. Beast is abusive or fucking like his ex-girlfriend
Starting point is 00:20:40 alluding to stuff, everyone all at once as a result of the guilty by association with Ava Tyson. And people already don't like him anyways because he is the poverty tourism or fucking, what is that called? Whenever you make money off of charity, not poverty tourism. I like that. I think that's charity.
Starting point is 00:21:03 That's normal charity. You're right. That's just how it works. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That all makes sense to me and that seems very defensible and and listening to this you've got to imagine when your business goes from You and your buddy to you and your buddy and three or four guys you hire to all of a sudden. Holy shit We need a team like if you don't have some sort of experience in corporate America and you don't know that you need an HR and like you might not even be in a position like it might not be profitable to do this.
Starting point is 00:21:33 All right. We have 15 employees. We can't afford HR. What are you talking about? We're we're growing so rapidly like that's not the move right now. I don't know. I just don't fault Mr. Beast for anything I've ever heard about him. No one's ever said anything about Mr. Beast where I was like, Ooh, he did that. You know, people tell me shit about Dr. Disrespect. It's like, get get help you there. That's
Starting point is 00:21:53 who would have done that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But with Mr. Beast fired Chris as soon as people like as soon as the stuff about him being shitty came out. And so like, what do they want from him? Yeah, I believe I believe so. So that's the main thing. And once again, I think my perspective is unique as well. And if my videos are not like a lot of the commentary stuff is just shooting on Mr. Beast and like, Oh, he's got it. But I have a business and like all these people, like I'm connected with him. I have his phone number. Like it's after all this stuff came out. So it's like, I am trying to be understand it as nuanced as possible. In my opinion, if I were him,
Starting point is 00:22:29 I would not be in the same boat. Because what you said, Kyle, about the HR and bringing HR on, we did that really early on. And you're correct. It makes it difficult to make money. It makes it difficult to be profitable when you actually care about compliance and
Starting point is 00:22:46 don't want to face consequences for inaction really early on. So like, I totally get it. And I'm suffering from that and have been for the last two years by just fucking hammering money. So like Mr. Reese probably didn't do that by how much money he just throws away in his videos, I assume. So it's like, for me, I hold myself to a standard that I feel like anybody else who's making money off their audience should also hold themselves to. Completely optional. Obviously you can be a piece of shit if you'd like.
Starting point is 00:23:13 I like to be able to sleep at night with a clean conscience, just myself. I don't hold anyone else to that standard. But like, when things start to come out, I would like to know the actual truth of the situation, which is why I've had Dogpack so much on my channel, interviewing him and seeing, you know, just seeing what people are saying,
Starting point is 00:23:28 what are people saying? And I've talked to Beast and he needs to make a response. How would HR have, how would something like that have caught, say, this Ava, is it? Is that the name? Well, specifically for that, I don't think that that would have been a problem. I know, well, it depends because we there's so much testimony that we've heard from people
Starting point is 00:23:50 that has not been able to be corroborated or backed up. It's just totally anonymous. It's just it's like comments on the internet, you know? Yeah, so Chris situation. I don't think there was any avoiding that now. He was part of like the main crew in the beginning. But like HR could have prevented the hiring of a potential sex offender because they would have a full background.
Starting point is 00:24:10 And the first thing wasn't known. Once it was known they parted ways and that was that. This other guy, apparently he was a registered pedo when they hired him. So yeah, I wish they had caught that. Yeah. Another thing too is with HR in regard to Ava, I believe there are reports of people who were inappropriately treated by that person. And if it's in a business setting, then that would absolutely be, you have an outlet. You need a third party outlet to be able to go to.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Anybody in your company, if it's on Discord, if you're interacting with your boss and you're not being paid and you're somewhere else and something weird happens, you talk to HR. That's how that works. That's how I suppose so. I think it's also like in my mind, it's difficult to grasp exactly the size of his business and also knowing that I'm sure it was fluctuating and mostly growing over time. I'm sure there was a point where I would have thought, yeah, you don't need HR. That's crazy. Just run a background check, do a Google search. But then I'm sure there was also a point where I would have thought, yeah, you don't need HR. That's crazy. Just run a background check. Do a Google search. Then I'm sure there was also a point where we'd all be like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:25:09 How many countries are you all in? Yeah. Office is in where? Oh, man, we got to get on this. Like, I guess it's not. But it's just that Mr. B seems to be painted as someone who knew he was doing evil while he did evil or he abetted or something. And it's like, I think he was just running up trying to become a billionaire and had managers under him. You know,
Starting point is 00:25:30 how much of the day to day operations is Mr. Beast in control of? Yeah, I think I'd have. So so once again, that's a great question. And I would I would look at it through the lens of me. I would never hire a pedophile knowingly on purpose but it's you they knew they knew though that's the thing they did know they did know and they also put this person in a mask on video and so it's like that would be me all the time it's just a couple videos but in on the videos is always in a mask That's what that was. No, that's what I meant. Okay. Yeah, right, right. All right, that's a little bizarre So it just I would never do that. I think that I would be in trouble if I did that Yeah, you would so I gotta get some clarification on that or at least as much as you know
Starting point is 00:26:16 You're saying they knowingly hired someone who had that in their in their record and and I guess the allegation know it Do oh, that's the allegation. Yes, what's the so record and and i guess the allegation know it do oh that's the allegation yes what's the so what someone is saying they called him typically what the guy's offense was like like did he do something to chamber or i believe it was i believe it was uh raping someone some kind of sexual thing like that of someone under the age of 11 i'll see like the worst thing so like the worst the worst the worst possible thing He didn't piss in a parking garage and get caught No, which is like those which is you know, that's what my mind goes to when I want to like I hear that like my
Starting point is 00:26:53 Cousin's saying watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like like wait my cousin got caught for what he was pissing in a parking lot, right? That's what it was That's what it good good. I don't have to cut him off 11 at the time too? So this time molested someone under the age of 11 in 2010 based on this sheet and he's not, you're seeing it. Okay. Yeah. Okay. So that, cause I think he was a, I think he was 17 at the time, I believe. I hate to use Twitter as a source. Like Jesus Christ, just make it a Facebook post there is a picture. This is a screenshot of his registration information
Starting point is 00:27:30 I'm looking at okay. I can link it. Oh Okay, this is a trip. Okay. Yeah, cuz once again like all the stuff 99% of everything outside of the Delaware stuff and the ava-tison stuff is just testimony of people anonymous sources So it's like you got to take all that with such a grain of salt. Obviously, you know, and at the end of the day, I just want to see the truth come out. And Mr. Beas acknowledged what is factual and what's not factual and take it like a man. Stand on business. So he's, yeah, that's 11 years old. That's so this guy's saying, and what have you found anything about this Delaware nickname? They're saying, oh, they called him Delaware because he couldn't go to Delaware anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Is that? Yeah, I think it happened in maybe it happened in Delaware. I can't remember. It's fucking it's this is the type of stuff that I just block out of my brain. If it happened in 2010, this guy would have been 23 at the time. That's 17. Okay. There you go He picked a friendly man from Delaware machine from 8 millimeter It says he was the guy from Delaware like I'm saying washing it in my mind But like when I'm doing North Carolina, oh the out-of-state statute was now
Starting point is 00:28:38 But my point was there was a guy I rolled with or sparred with he used to call me Jersey Didn't bother to learn my name. Right. I'm like, is it one of those situations where like he's where he spent time there and they just call him Delaware? It's out of state statue. He was convicted in Delaware. Yeah, he's going to whatever Delaware and he's not whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:29:01 I'm not good with words. I don't fucking do there. Like, why is this? Why is it? Why is this guy worth hiring despite this as her manager asked? Yeah Hard as a fucking manager to like it's so weird. I like it's the whole thing. He really just needs to That's also not the real mr. Beast by the way But I don't know why we're showing Twitter. See, is that calls for everything on Twitter? You guys don't know, there are bad fact check scrolling bias
Starting point is 00:29:29 on most of the shows. And at this point I'm like, I don't wanna get burnt anymore. You just have to find like screenshots of documents. Like, and you can't go on Twitter or social media and be like, oh, you know, Stevie Stevenson says this. Like, well, I don't know if I trust Stevie, but if Stevie posts a screenshot of registration
Starting point is 00:29:53 information from Greenville, North Carolina, showing when and where and how he was arrested and that he molested a kid, like, yeah, I buy that. And it seems this is true. Yeah. And another thing too is like, they're the detractors have been wrong multiple times. So it's like, we have to like as viewer as as I'm someone who's contributing to this whole thing, I'm trying to be as good faith as I possibly can. And it is really difficult because I get called a fucking fence sitter, or a beast glazer or some kind of hazer or what are a fucking beast glazer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:29 Dude, I think like a beast glazer. That's my new gamertag. Yeah, dude. I'm, I just want to, I want to know what has happened and also with all the big lawsuit today. And if you really want to know what Mr. Beast has done bad, the New York Times reporting is accurate and now corroborated with an actual lawsuit. So I think that that's our biggest source of true valid act, absolute information outside of this Delaware stuff, outside of all this. If you want to know what Mr. Beast has done improperly in terms of running a business and put people in danger when they should have been in danger, that's your best source, if you want.
Starting point is 00:31:11 But other than that, everything is, yeah. I know, I thank you for putting that in some perspective because all I ever hear is stuff on Reddit mostly, and it's so surface level and so clearly either personal or just like red team blue team bullshit Yeah, I'm I roll my eyes, but it seems like he definitely had some bad business practice absolutely the least for sure and I I gotta say like I Don't know. I don't know. I I guess I mean I don't fucking Background check all my buddies and my friends.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Maybe we all should. God damn. Like I didn't back check around. Check a single Woodycraft employee. Not one. If one turned out to be bad, I'd be like, oh my gosh, can you imagine like, yeah. And like people say like all your viewers are kids in Minecraft. They're kind of right.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Like there weren't a lot of adults on Woodycraft yeah and yeah they always had a credit card there though yeah it's just one of those things because like Mr. Beast is such a big thing if if he if we could if the if the criticisms good he responds to the criticism well and takes it in turn and like everything improves. I am going to let it go. You know, if, if the people who are victimized are cool with it after, for example, Jake Weber, one of the guys who came out, or I think that's his name, one of the guys who
Starting point is 00:32:37 came out against them, they made good. I think, I think that that's the way to approach it is just to like take it in turn. I mean, this is something that is, it's not just the guy. It's a fucking big thing that is not like, it's not this simple. It's a huge thing. That's really complicated. Uh, and people get so tired of whenever I say it or like, shut up, you're gay. I'm confused. What's a huge thing. That's complicated. Uh, mr. Beast. It's not just mr. Beast. It's not Jimothy Beast. It's like him and a hundred employees and contracts with Amazon. Like he doesn't control everything, but he's definitely the one responsible. How long did this Delaware fellow work there?
Starting point is 00:33:16 And like how when did it end? I don't remember. Too long, too long. He's in those bit. So what's weird to me? I've never watched a single Mr. Beast video. I don't watch all this, like a lot of pop content that everybody watch. I don't care. I really don't.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I read a headline that said he cured the blind. He brought water to the thirsty. And I'm like, holy shit, that's amazing. And then I move along. I never lived. Cured deafness too. Holy shit. Where's Jesus Christ? I mean, Jesus, Jesus look Jesus didn't hear that many blind people
Starting point is 00:33:52 Water and then just find a frozen lake he brought Lazarus back from the dead and he maybe yeah We don't know I want to see him fucking feed 7,000 people with four loaves of bread. All right Can you imagine the Roman newspapers like like chiseled out? Did you know? Who was the guy that turned on Jesus? It was Judas. They're looking at Judas's background. You know, Judas actually touched a 15 year old girl when he was 27. Yeah, that's his wife. That's his second wife, actually. Do you know what year it is? It's four. Yeah. When you're four, dude, come on. It's four. I'm dying of something right now. You see, they tell me they're feeding me lead and mercury. Many parts for for dozen. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:45 He's done so much good that I'm over. I'm willing to overlook some bad. But what I don't like out of all that, like, I don't care about bad business practices when you're feeding the hungry and like fixing the blind or something. Like, like if you just don't have an HR department and someone can't complain every time they're mad, I don't care. But what I don't like is that scary motherfucker with the mask on. That's weird. Who, who did that to an 11 year old or younger child?
Starting point is 00:35:11 That's like, how is he alive? You know, if he'd gone to a prison, a real one, he wouldn't have made it out. Yeah. Right. Like, yeah, that's crazy. Oh, he prayed for an MP5. He did this in 2010 and he was born in 1987. So, yeah, yeah, it's a jail or something. Then, right. Like 23 math in my head. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a it's a bizarre thing. And once again, don't like me.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Definitely need to be fact checked. I'm sure a lot of stuff has changed. I'm not like staying up to date on the news. I'm very tired of it. I'm like, you know. Understandable. Dumbest. Let's talk about something cheerful then. We could do this for years.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We could go to something more cheerful. Let's talk about Pagers and Levin. Let's talk about Pagers and Levin. No. Oh, we're gonna talk about the Pagers. I thought you were gonna cheer me up from the sad documentary. We don't have to go there right now.
Starting point is 00:36:01 So Kyle is on team. This is fucking cool. Like what an amazing way to conduct a war. Taylor is on. Look, a lot of these victims could be innocent people. It's oh yeah children bombing and grocery stores. Yeah, not could be hard at this point. Yeah. Yes. And and the and well, it could be an arc and just like what a like amazing act of sort of intelligence that they pulled off to like get pagers on their way to hopefully bad guys and you know put explosives in them and then as they're wearing them later on send a page 2000
Starting point is 00:36:54 explosions go off at once. I was like that's cool and I still do think that there is an element of cool in it, but I think there's there's an undeniable little bit of cool to it. The thing is let's so cool. There's there's an undeniable little bit of culture. The thing is, let's say that these Hamas people were living in Israel, right? And they were shopping at Israeli grocery stores and malls and whatever. Would they have employed that same tactic? I think the answer is no, I think it's they consider the browner lives to be worth a lot less.
Starting point is 00:37:23 And if kids lose their vision, you know what, this is the price that we all have to pay and they definitely employ tactics they wouldn't employ if it was their own people, their own innocence. I think they're fighting for their own people. So, you know, obviously there's a border there. 100,000 Israelis are displaced. 100,000 population of St. Louis is what like 300,000? Well, that's the city proper. Nobody lives there. Imagine that 100,000 people are displaced from their homes because Hezbollah keeps rocketing that side of the border. They're in a war with a state sponsored by our definition
Starting point is 00:38:00 terrorist organization whose main mission, it's crazy that these people put it in like their charter. It's like, I don't know, we've got some words here, it's like, you know, live free and die for all mankind. There's as always, death to Israel. They're like mantra, their motto, it's right in, they chant it. And I don't mean like the guys on the street
Starting point is 00:38:21 that the CNN might find, like the leadership does. This was three or four thousand devices that went straight it didn't just go to anybody and everybody. It was upper echelon Hezbollah members. These are your these are your block captains who all got a pager so we can stay in contact and they managed to put a couple ounces of c4 in them bitches and then send them all a little message that says look at this and they are all maimed. They're blinded, their hands are blown off and there's chunks taken out of their sides. And there was definitely some collateral damage
Starting point is 00:38:49 along the way. There are tons of people who are innocent and are hurt from it. Yeah. They're reporting hundreds of people and children. One child died. That's worth a lot of lives. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Tons of, right? The idea that all of these- Was that 4,000 pounds? I bet £1400. There were children though, Woody. They weigh less. That's a ton of children. I mean, they were... A lot of the people maimed who weren't Hezbollah affiliated, seemingly, were hospital officials because they use pagers.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Yeah. What do you mean? No. No. I don't know. A hospital administrator get a Hezbollah? Upper Echelon for block captains because not all of them were just sent to Hezbollah. Clearly some people Made up stuff. That's the part Kyle like it takes a lot of intelligence to make sure you only get the right pagers like They had their own order of pagers. They wanted encrypted pagers. It's funny, they're going down the line now trying to find out where the pagers came from. The company whose brand is on them are like, we don't make pagers.
Starting point is 00:39:52 We license pagers to be made. And so they go to the street where the manufacturer is listed and there's somebody outside and they're like, yeah, nobody works in there. That's an empty building. And they're like, well, shit, where'd they come from? Right? Like they don't even know exactly where the pages came from. But no, what is his point of like,
Starting point is 00:40:09 that you can't- What they didn't do, what they didn't do is make every pager in Lebanon a bomb and just scatter them about. There was a shipment of pagers to the bad guys. The bad guys were like, you got the goods? Yeah, 3000 encrypted pagers, just like you wanted, bad guy guy. And he went good. I'll take it back to my bad guy boss. He'll tell me how to distribute them. Do you think this is a movie? Bad guys? Yet? Do you see what just
Starting point is 00:40:32 happened with all the bad guys? Do you know? Do you know? Hundreds of innocent people were harmed and children died. Absolutely not. I think we have different news feeds. Like the idea that you think this went to the Hezbollah hideout, like their fucking Skeletor And they all what it all blew up in the hideout as they were reading I think they scattered them about and they just happened to blow up three there. Do people have pagers? They have them in grocery stores in line at the mall in hospitals. What are you talking at their apartment building?
Starting point is 00:40:59 What does have their hotel you gotta explain what you're even talking about where where do people wear pagers? I think you're being I don't I genuinely don't understand What you're saying right now? What if someone's standing here and they have a pager on their hip and there's a child beside them the kids fine We don't have to ask what's the video that just happened. Yeah, it was fine I watched it happen in the grocery store the guy blew up guy. Here's fine. Then I saw a lake goose I what I've seen on I think I've seen this video, but wait a second. I want to talk about it I think I've seen the same video and had that pager gone off like seconds before or after
Starting point is 00:41:32 Another person would have been hurt. Someone had walked by right in the blast zone and just threw Good luck the pager only blew up when only the pagers owner within, I'll say it's like a three feet radius. Sure. Kyle, you agree with that roughly? I saw that clip. What about the radios? But seconds on either side of that, people were right there.
Starting point is 00:41:52 It blew more up! Woody is right. Like, and what I was saying is that when you have thousands of people going around with pagers, those people aren't in a bad guy hideout, like you so silly- Lee believe that they're just they're sitting there around a big evil table in your mind coming up with machinations. I feel like your audience cutting out and the and the important part you're just is
Starting point is 00:42:15 getting left out but it's actually just you pretending like something's happening when it's not. So again, what happened was. My audience is not enough? No, it's fucking Ricky Brown. No, your audience is okay, Taylor. He's. No, no, no. When it's not so again He's no no no your audio is fine, but the amount of information that's been crossed is about like your audio Yeah, now I'm losing For real this time like he's actually coming out in his videos
Starting point is 00:42:39 We throw down Seriously, if you could just make like 10 seconds your audio did cut out new video for okay Am I now one two three your videos frozen right now, but I hear your audio as you asked lame. Yes Yes, so while you're doing while you're waiting for that to come back. I'll make my point So you you actually put forth this idea try that all of these are going to like a bunch of bad guys Sitting around a table in a bad guy hideout when the reality is people take pagers day to day everywhere. And so even what does that mean? What are you talking about? People have pagers on their hip even if they are all Hezbollah, even if 100% of them were Hezbollah, those people are on in cars
Starting point is 00:43:19 driving. They're in line at the grocery store. Some of them have kids nearby. They're in hospitals. They could burn down apartment buildings, houses, hotels. You almost made your point. Let me know. I'm making the point. You just aren't getting it. And so when you indiscriminately, despite where, where these people are, blow them all up, you get a huge amount of what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So what Taylor's trying to say is that, yeah, all people wearing the pagers were terrorists and bad people and evil and their stated goal was to destroy one of our allies. And we, the Gulf Arab nations and every other group in the world that is in Iran, North Korea and the evil axis has declared them a terrorist organization. Those guys were wearing bombs that Israel sent them and whoopsie daisy, innocence might be around them as they go about their day-to-day terror lives. Yes, I think I made that clear from the start. Oh my god, not even close. You were,
Starting point is 00:44:12 you didn't want to say it. I was trying to go through and say that. What about what I said is like controversial that I wouldn't want to say, that strapping bombs to people in public and blowing them up is going to have collateral damage, which it does. I mean, they're used to that over there, first of all. They love doing that shit. That's why I up is going to have collateral damage. I mean, they're used to that over there. First of all, they love doing that shit. That's why I don't want to be involved in the Middle East because it's just a bunch of different groups committing terror attacks against each other. Why the fuck do we have to do anything? That's not good emotional, Taylor.
Starting point is 00:44:35 OK, we're trying to have a civil discussion here about a geopolitical event. You seem to be getting a little emotional about things. I'm just trying to say that the bad guys got bombs sent to them. And your main concern is there might be a not so bad guy near them who gets affected. No, and you're also your child and not just a not bad guy, an innocent child might have their how do you know was innocent child, they use child soldiers over there. You know that you know what ISIS does doesn't a seven year old boy into a shoot house with a Kurd tied up in the back as a live kill target. I think the principal difference is I'm willing to say that like Hezbollah are bad
Starting point is 00:45:12 guys and I don't like them but most of those a lot of these people in Lebanon getting their you know the kids getting blown up, innocents and hospitals getting blown up because they were near someone that's beyond the pale. That's not cool. That's not okay. Like World War Two or Vietnam or Iraq or every war that gets fought ever since beginning of time. Those are the people who pay the price. That's why you don't do war. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:34 Wars, wars pretty terrible. It is this escalated towards the, this escalates it towards a war with Iran. It isn't, they were in a, they are in a war with Iran and they're striking to their, the hotter, the hotter guy get hit with a war with Iran. Yeah, and they're striking today. The Iranian guy get hit with a pager. Kyle, you told me that is it probably true. The more likely we are to have to join ambassador of from Iran got blown up like the ambassador for Iran had a Hezbollah. That's why that's how you know that this was they didn't just scatter explosive pagers about and hope they went to bad guys from
Starting point is 00:46:05 the top to the bottom these guys had these pages that the ambassador from Iran to Lebanon had one of these explosive pages he's maimed today all right like and Israel's been taking these guys out left and right with bombs. I believe there is an agent from Israel embedded in Hamas of course who convinced them that everybody needs new you know You know what? The pages we have now? They're not secure. Oh, we need to get 2,000 pages. Do you know something I don't know? Yeah, so very recently the leadership of Hezbollah had said the Israelis have cracked our cell phones. They are using our cell phones to guide their missiles. No more cell phones. They've cracked cell phone encryption. We're done with cell phones. No more
Starting point is 00:46:45 Slack. No more WhatsApp. It don't work against Israel. Pagers. And I almost want to believe that what it was, was Israel leaked it to them that they had cracked their phones so they would order pagers because they already had this shipment of pagers cooked up. Look, I don't like that kids got blown up, just so we're clear. That's awful. That's one of the things I hate about the whole, um, post October 7th, uh, Israeli response in Palestine is all them goddamn dead kids who, for the, who, who didn't deserve to be cooked alive. You know, I've seen horrific, horrific things and I hate seeing it, but I can't think of a, uh, a way to do this with less collateral damage than two ounce bombs that you put on the bad guy, okay?
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like when are you ever going, if you shot him with a bullet, you know, the bullet's coming out the back and going somewhere. Like I can't think of a safer way to do this with less collateral damage than this. And what fact that they're like, yeah, but that one kid, like, yeah, that's awful. More than what I'm talking about like a generation of blind kids. What I really don't like is the precedent that it sets
Starting point is 00:47:50 Mm-hmm, and that now we're not worried about drones anymore, which are already fucking scary now if China doesn't like us China if they don't fucking like us or someone if we go to some kind of war Then your electronic device is now with in unison with malware cyber warfare is now not just Nebulous, it's real. It's actually real and it can blow holes in you and accidentally maim children That's scary to a country that outsourced all of their manufacturing. That is the biggest that's a really lame children that's scary to outsource all
Starting point is 00:48:24 of their manufacturing. That is the I don't like the way that Israel so indiscriminately kills II can't remember another like first world nation who just doesn't give one **** about innocent people when we went into Iraq when we went into
Starting point is 00:48:43 Afghanistan, we were at least trying to get the bad guys if If good ones got hurt too, it was something we regretted, right? In Israel, it's not a bug, it's a feature. They fucking love it. But there is like a terrible military planner in me that's like, these guys have been reduced to smoke signals at this point. They don't trust their phones, they don't trust their pagers, they don't trust their walkie talkies. We haven't mentioned that yet, but that's the next thing they passed around. Oh, yeah. Right. These guys are going to be smoke symbols and fucking drums to communicate their messages. They used pigeons in Afghanistan. I didn't know that. And like, man, you talk about crippling the enemy. It's a lot more than the nine kills. Yeah, it's incredible what they've done from it's it's there's been movies that did similar thing things the Kingsman if you remember, there was that whole thing where everyone's cell phone had been turned into an actual bomb that blew their heads off or whatever,
Starting point is 00:49:37 something like that. It's incredibly impressive what they did. It shows that they are reading these guys fucking dirty underwear. You know, like they know everything there is to know about the organization. They're air striking today. They're hitting targets in southern Lebanon, which is, you know, right above northern Israel, I guess, or the northern part of Israel. I feel like Woody hit the nail on the head with like, clearly from what we've seen the way way they've waged this war against Hamas. And now, Hezbollah, it is not a bug, it's a feature.
Starting point is 00:50:09 They really don't mind innocent people dying in droves. Yeah, I don't think they mind in Palestine. I would argue that they're being very accurate right now in southern Lebanon with laser-guided munitions taking out single houses. And I would argue that there has never been a smarter, more accurate bomb than the one that you strap to your enemy, you know? And that's what these pagers are. We've got that missile that has the blades.
Starting point is 00:50:38 I always forget what it's called, but we've got that badass missile with the blades. And they're like, it can kill the passenger and leave the driver alive in a car Wow That's incredible. What a great feature This would kill the guy in the back seat and not hurt the driver too. Like these are little pops It's that they're on you. I get you but like I'm picturing my own cell phone. Yeah odds are it's gonna blow up in my pocket I'm the guy who holds it the most but I wouldn't say Jackie and Colin are are safe. One, they could be very close to me. Or two, they could be using it. They put it in his day to day family phone, but right, they put it in his terror pager that only gets pages from the terror cell. It would be more like your secret back phone.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You know, it's great. It's that they had them on them in public around innocence and then they indiscriminately set them all off. I didn't see any innocent people get hurt. Look, I saw two different people. I saw two videos. I saw two videos of people exploding and nobody, three actually. I saw three videos of people exploding and no one around them was injured. Everybody was spooked a little, you know. Checkmate, Taylor. I just don't know. make it i guess all these reports out of lebanon are just what report i would love a link or i would love you to at least describe
Starting point is 00:51:51 the lebanon to report to me it's out there like lots of yeah it's where people who are not has blah affiliated have been harmed and what weapon is what they're like being close to people with bombs on them you sure about that, I don't believe you. I'm going to report in the walkie talkies blew up. I think you're the one of the next day. He was holding it. He was bringing it to her dad. Then there was a little boy, I think a nine year old boy. And then a 10 year old child.
Starting point is 00:52:17 I'm going to link for that one. Can you link, brother? I've read about it. I saw the kid that died and the kid was holding the pager. That's horrific. Must be terrible. I wonder the kid that died and the kid was holding the pager. That's horrific must be terrible I wonder if the dad will remain in his terrorist Position there with has below now that his child has paid the price It's probably gonna be some fucking lunatic terrorists now Oh, no, we do something real bad now like shoot missiles into our homes every day. The walkie talkies got 20 kills
Starting point is 00:52:42 Instead of nine walkie talkie walkie talkie. Yeah, maybe because they're bigger or maybe because the next two heads. I don't know Yeah, my head is it's like they don't have pagers. They can't use cell phones. They'll get triangulated So now they have their walkie talkies and they're just like fucking up into there You guys doing all right over there and then you have to do do do and what I'm trying to make a distinction here Taylor between And what I'm trying to make a distinction here, Taylor, between what would definitely happen and that some kids would pick up, pick them up or be handed them or be operating them and they would be maimed killed everything above. But what I don't think is very likely anyway, is that the person in the car with you, the person standing next to you in line is going to be injured in any kind of a meaningful
Starting point is 00:53:21 way that you wouldn't treat with a home first aid kit. It's shooting bits of plastic and metal at you real hard and it goes in you and it sucks. If you're three to five feet away or something like that. But I saw those pops. Those people went and like ran away. I mean, did you see the videos of like, like the people in the hospital with like their faces? Yeah, the people who were hospital with like their faces. Yeah, that's what we want. Those like an explosion on that terrorist doesn't like just
Starting point is 00:53:53 magically not affect a person standing next to him in public at the grocery store or in the car. It does though. So it's got this doesn't seem to it did though. Like again, we're back to that thing where we should go back to fighting swords You can't find me the example of the guy We also maimed terribly at the grocery store. I think he was by produce right and yeah
Starting point is 00:54:13 That explosion was big enough that like I've stood next to people looking at produce close enough to be hurt Thankfully in the video I saw nobody was that close but yeah You do it 2,000 times and somebody will be and people were It doesn't look like it to me because I I think yeah I think you I think you need to be hanging on to that bomb for it to really Fuck you up in a severe way I think if you're three to five feet away from two ounces of c4 you're fine. Not fine. I think uh, but I think dad You're not maimed
Starting point is 00:54:39 We can definitely all agree that the only people having this conversation about the logistics of whether or not innocent people will be harmed are us and not the people actually making the pagers. Yeah. Imagine a party right now. They could not get any. Imagine a party at Israeli headquarters. High five. High five.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah. High five. They're doing the chair thing. Yo, slow mo. Come on. Hold them up. La la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la thing. They got slow mode the pager maker up on that chair right now. He's got a robe on like he's doing that like the traditional king thing where you got the scepter and like
Starting point is 00:55:22 the the robe with the little checkers on it like somebody glass for some reason I don't know yeah they're stepping on fucking champagne flutes bbm yahoo is giving him the fucking star of David or whatever their highest uh it has to be the star of David what else would it be? I would take it back if I were them Star of David it Black card black credit card no limit No, I think we more or less agree but like what's flavoring or tainting your opinion Just a little bit is your isolation. No, Taylor is how much you hate us being potentially involved, how much you dislike Israel for taking all of our money from us
Starting point is 00:56:11 and how much you don't want any involvement with Iran. And I can sympathize with all of that, but I always thought of Iran as like a bully and they seem to, if you like appease them or if you ignore them they just seem to get more aggressive take a Scarier stance and yet I just never heard them be like, you know, the Americans have been nice to us for the last five years Maybe we'll I don't know. Maybe we'll get over it. No, they're just so I like that Israel's constantly killing their scientists constantly killing their scientists Like we don't it doesn't get reported much anymore their scientists and their generals after Sula Mane
Starting point is 00:56:47 Trump took out Sula Mane. He was supposed to be person you couldn't touch this Iranian general Trump blew him the fuck up and There wasn't much of a kickback from Iran. They shelled one of our bases and some people got concussions That was the response after that Israel got brazen. They were like, oh really? They'll just take it, huh? See Israel's a bully, too And they saw that Iran could have a little bitch in their blood. So you know what they did Then they had they paid they went to the it used to be the shah of the iran's palace It's this pretty cool palace near a ski resort that was um, that's that's near uh, tehran
Starting point is 00:57:24 And it's now the Revolutionary Guard, like palace or something like that. One of their higher up generals, I can picture his face, he looks like Santa Claus with a crew cut, was staying there as like a guest. They put a bomb under his bed and they climbed a tree outside and they waited till he turned out the lights,ed ten and blew him up in their own building like the most secure possible building in Iran And they put they they paid to Iranian guards off enough money enough shekels to and and you know
Starting point is 00:57:57 They got him into the West. I'm sure to put a bomb under his bed and wait Like I don't I think Iran's the bad guys. I don't think Israel's the good guys though. I think that as long as we don't have American boots on the ground anywhere near that area of the world, I'm happy to see them like Israel shit on them left and right. I would love to watch world's most dangerous jobs and see them go through the list of like Bering Strait crab fishermen, and see them go through the list of like Bering Strait crab fishermen, Pacific Northwest logger, Iranian nuclear scientist topping the list as the greatest death per... That's what he was. That's what that guy was. He was that... I'm glad you said it. That's what he was. I think he was a nuclear scientist. I'm pretty sure he was. They kill those guys all...
Starting point is 00:58:39 Oh, here's how they killed the nuclear scientist. And now I remember remember dude they they sent a truck and a machine gun piece by piece into Iran in like inoculus shipments then those pieces were assembled all together and placed by a road when the bad guy the Iranian truck was one of these things they said to trust piece by piece okay okay all people. And so when the bad guy drove past the gunner looks through his site, takes careful aim, and he opens up with a belt fed 308 machine gun, annihilating the whole convoy. Then the truck explodes into so many pieces, they can't even tell what was there. because the sniper was in another
Starting point is 00:59:25 fucking country operating a remote-controlled robot machine gun hidden in the back of a truck that's tailgate flopped open at the last cool walter white did something like that yeah 2020 yeah they saw breaking they stole the idea i think they did it first they did i think israel doesn't care when when like their plots get shown I hope that our CIA CIA is even fucking cooler. I hope they're even cooler. I hope they do All right. Here's another one that the Israelis did they got caught this time So what they would do because they can't just print passports Like we can we can print an American passport right before everyone on it
Starting point is 00:59:59 Give it to CIA guy and he's got a new identity to cruise the world. No questions asked an American an American passport. Israeli passports don't work like that so they got to go to their dual citizenship citizens. Hey, you're Israeli and Australian. Would you let the government borrow your passport? We'll give it back. You know, we got to we're gonna use it for the betterment of the country, for national security, etc. And these people say say yeah, I guess Well, they use those passports. They gave them to agents who looked enough like them, I guess and they sent them to Where's the is Abu Dhabi? They sent them to a Middle Eastern country to assassinate an Iranian What and and it's all on CCTV? That's the problem
Starting point is 01:00:41 They're stalking him a dozen agents stalkinging him just like an Ocean's Eleven movie. They got disguises, they got tennis rackets, like sliding in the elevator with them, like they're tennis playing, a hotel guest. Then later on, the same guy has a bald cap and a suit on walking around. It's like, that's the same guy. They followed him to his room,
Starting point is 01:00:59 found out where he was staying. Then they attacked him, used what was described as an ultrasonic device to stop his heart took his clothes off put him in his bed and left. How close do you have to be for the ultrasonic device to work? Dude they were so vague about what the fuck they meant by an ultrasonic device what I think they did is they held him down. Did they just defibrillate some guy who wasn't That's not an ultrasonic device. They did something else to him that lead Oh, I was meaning like they were like post-fact trying to be like, oh, yeah
Starting point is 01:01:28 We have this brand new device gives you a heart attack with a gun and really they're like Holding them down. He's like I'm gonna defibrillate this motherfucker. Well, the CIA had a heart attack gun like 50 years ago They're just shooting I see toxins that you were some shit like that but they use some sort of a device to kill this guy that leaves no marks that I guess you push to his body And stop his heart with ultrasonic sound or something That's what it sounded like they were describing Put him it tucked him into his bed and made it look like he had died in his sleep But then they looked at the CCTV and they say wait a minute a guy who died in sleep
Starting point is 01:02:00 He was being stalked by his railings all day And but there's a lot of curly hair in this CCTV. A lot of sideburns. But the passport holders are the ones who are getting called out globally. There's this map of people's passport photos and lines of them traversing Israel back to Abu Dhabi, back to Israel, and making this loop where they killed him and there's this grand conspiracy exposed and then they interviewed like this poor Australian gun is like yeah yes for me passport now this is going to happen. Yeah and so they told me what was up and I said Ivey.
Starting point is 01:02:38 Yeah I'm just really impressed by that Israeli intelligence apparatus that this is the, this is one of the wildest, most James Bond esque, who's, uh, I've ever even heard of it's right. Where is that CIA computer virus that unbalanced the centrifuges? Yeah. The worm was called Stuxnet, I think. Um, and it was, it was an Israeli and American partnership to deal with a centrifuge that was underground cut off from any wiring any internet cabling at all how do you infect that centrifuge with this thing that makes it spin a little bit faster a little bit slower
Starting point is 01:03:18 thereby destroying it over a long term period by the way and centrifuges separating weapons grade uranium from regular uranium right it's getting 235 out of and getting rid of the whatever 237 238. So It was a bad place. But what happened was I got I got it on a thumb drop. No, no, no They infected the whole global internet Yeah, they have they infected basically every computer on earth but didn't do anything negative and then somehow some way this thing found its way to the iranian computer and they were like well i mean i bet every computer has it by now and they activated it and boom it it set their nuclear program back for years so we lost your audio kyle Oh lost that
Starting point is 01:04:07 Yeah, I don't know I guess things can be both cool and horrible Yeah, like nuclear bombs like nuclear bombs like nuclear bombs. Yeah Just don't want I am fearful. Hezbollah will retaliate and then everything will keep ratcheting up and why would you think that well because they seem to something like this happens they'll they'll respond and then Israel responds and then they respond and this eventually it'll hit a pitch yeah no they've been at this like cold becoming hot war for a long time and almost one year now if there's almost I fear that
Starting point is 01:04:44 if there's an every I fear that if there's an every, I fear that if there's a situation where boots on the ground is needed, it's going to be American troops that have to do it. And I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna need boots on the ground. I think we've got plenty of pagers, cell phones, walkie talkies, uh, smoke signals, birds, bucking glyphs, like whatever. This is, this is cool. And I'm enjoying watching it. Bad guys are losing, good guys are winning. And it's never black and white. There are no good guys.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Oh, we're the good guys in this conflict, man. Trust me, we're the good guys, all right? Because we live here, all right? The good old... They're over there because we've got trees and sunshine. You know they hate our freedom. That's what this is all about, Taylor. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Osanaba Bin Laden was like, I cannot abide them voting. That's why he did it. Yeah. I remember like being young after that and like not understanding what that meant when I would hear adults say like, they hate us for our freedom. I'm like, they shouldn't dwell on it that much. If they're so upset that I can go buy a lunchly, then you know, and they can't, they shouldn't dwell on it. Yeah, that's the pinnacle of freedom is lunchly and prime. Yeah, I have a right to eat as much lead or as little lead as I choose.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah, should know how much lead you're eating. I'm watching the terror right now. I've seen it before. It's sort of a dramatization of the Shackleford Expedition disaster which we don't know was a British must be the British were trying to get over the northern ice cap forever and they kept just dying up there getting frozen in the ice and they had these two state-of-the-art ships they took up there for the time anyway, and They they had all this canned food. They brought up food for like four years, like a crazy amount of food and the food was soldered with lead and that's not really even that big of a
Starting point is 01:06:32 problem. You could have a lot of lead before it's brightened. Did this come out a few years ago and we all watched it? Yeah, yeah, I'm re-watching it. I love it. I'm on my set, the terror on AMC or anywhere now and it. I'm on my set, the terror on AMC or anywhere now. And the lead drove them just wacky and weird over the course of years and years of eating this canned food, soldered shot with lead. And the show, of course, adds in some sci fi or some fantasy elements, I should say. There's a monster stalking them. That's like a Eskimo, Vengeance spirit or some shit that doesn't want those white men up there. So that makes it worth watching. But the real enemy of course is the shitty human beings
Starting point is 01:07:12 that they've brought along and the lead poisoning. Lead poisoning would be such a scary way to go. Imagine your only source of food is poison. Like your only source of food. And it's like they're serving up another bowl of poison you ready Yeah, I think could the ice have been Very thick very thick they were sailing through it They were and then it and then it froze around well
Starting point is 01:07:34 They were breaking through the ice and then so therefore not that thick well They need is a little bit. That's a bit thicker and then you spellers out now your I'm trying to cut a hole and go ice fishing in my mind here. Oh, that's what I thought too. And they do, what they do is they take a metal basin and they start a fire in it and they lower it by chain through the ice and they create a hole there to shit in to throw bodies eventually in like whatever they need to get rid of. That's a trash can.
Starting point is 01:08:00 But I was like, is there nothing down there? Is it, can we just, I'd be that shithole all day with my hook in it You know, but nobody ever bothered with that. Yeah, we switch from lead to mercury poisoning 200 men though, so it would it would have been a lot of fishing, you know, yeah But what a horrible way to die Well, they starved to death in the end and you know, probably had four guys for a while Oh, yeah There was your friend dies of lead poisoning and now you're getting even more lead poisoning from eating him Well, they starved to death in the end and you know, probably had to eat another for a while. Oh yeah, there was camp.
Starting point is 01:08:26 Your friend dies of lead poisoning and now you're getting even more lead poisoning from eating him. I don't know what's going on. It's more like development disabilities. It just makes you a little soft in the brain, really. Yeah, they're just like getting dyslexia. That's the intention. Yeah, and then the other thing you got to keep in mind, they don't have any animals
Starting point is 01:08:47 at all. It's just them. They got a dog, but they ate that right away. But so they got these big boats that would seat maybe 15 men, like a big rowboat. And then they put all their supplies in it. And then they throw a cover on top of that. And they just lash themselves to and drag it through ice fields, but it's not you might okay ice is slick but it's full of these icy like boulders and and so that it was awful. I love I love the show though it's really good highly recommend it. That's what I've been watching that and that uh that space show with Tom Hanks is pretty fucking good. Oh you want me to tell my sad story about about my sick friend? Yeah, why would you all appreciate our lives? Sadness out man. I've got a friend of a friend who's been diagnosed with cancer and
Starting point is 01:09:34 They got there. I think it's called your prognosis Yesterday like their final one their most informed one and I guess a melanoma Metastasized and now it's kind of everywhere like at least two large tumors in this person's brain And then maybe some more throughout their body as well. That's hit six to 18 months Well, it's 18 months. This is like a really young this person's like 30 30 years old I think you I Will like right now they're in the hospital, like not feeling well because they had to cut their brain open to like take
Starting point is 01:10:09 some samples. They, so they cut this big horseshoe sort of flap on the side of your head and peel that back and drill a hole in your skull and take some brain out. It makes you feel bad. Probably makes you feel bad. But after, you know, it's none of my business and I'm certainly not gonna interject But I would be living life like that like that song like like live like you were dying. You hear that song? Yeah Yeah, you'd have to go like go ride a bull, you know Go skydiving go spend some time with your most beloved friends and family like like take the time to to be a good friend
Starting point is 01:10:43 Is this person single childhood? You know, I think so. I think both of those things. Yeah. Yeah. Cause that, that, that very much informs how I'd handle it. Like the me of today, I'd be like, shit, I guess I'll spend my last six to 18 months, like organizing my affairs, simplifying our finances, stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:11:04 But the hypothetical single Woody, just how big a slut can I be? That is the question. Just like, I got a couple of nickels to rub together. We'll buy it if we have to. What do you transitions? He's got big titties. See this shows up boys. I have cancer. We're like, what breast cancer? What is that? Well, you know, only six months to go. I'm living it up. Well, actually my patient Matthew
Starting point is 01:11:28 is having a mental breakdown. He believes that Matthew Woodworth has cancer, but that Martha Woodworth does not. Martha can't have prostate cancer. She doesn't have one. Girls don't have prostate. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't make it the full 18 months because you would just get over the top ballsy with your adrenaline seeking where you'd like you'd fly towards a mountain
Starting point is 01:11:52 face, nothing to lose, break an ankle doing that. A hurricane circle around again, try to get in the hurricanes before, but, but we're going to tow you out to the hurricane. We're going to get you in that. We're going to get you out to the scary water or maybe that wouldn't even be the scary We're going to get you out to the scary water. Or maybe that wouldn't even be the scary water. I don't know how hurricanes work. Maybe the shores. How about this?
Starting point is 01:12:08 We strap you up with a thousand pagers and then send you into the West bank. Yeah. The big one right into the West bank. I'm sure. Well, I am very sorry for your friend of a friend. That's incredibly. Yeah, that's fucking right. right like whenever whenever you see something like that it makes you really appreciate your health i know when there's been times where i've been injured or
Starting point is 01:12:34 just had like a a nagging pain and just been in so much pain all day like when i've been burnt or when i had that that surgery on my eye and there's stitches under my eyelid constantly hurting me and And then like when that's over You forget how bad it was to live in pain to live in pain Every waking moment and to struggle to get to sleep. You're in so much pain You forget how awful that is and how like life really isn't worth living after a bit of that And it goes away and you start taking that for granted. I try to think about that a lot, like, man,
Starting point is 01:13:07 I feel good today. Nothing hurts, like nothing hurts, nothing aches, nothing burns. I feel good today. It's a gay little self-help, actually it's not even self-help thing because it does help. Like practicing gratitude, like actively,
Starting point is 01:13:24 will make you happier as a person. Like, forcing yourself to like, if you're feeling glummer down or sad or depressed or whatever, like go through things and like actively make a list, either in your mind or tangibly, about what you are grateful for is more powerful than I think a lot of people know. Cringe. No, it is. No, I do it all the time. There's actually this tool course about meditation that you can do that's a, I haven't seen in
Starting point is 01:13:54 a long time, but it's, it basically goes through all that stuff. This guy is an expert in giving people the tools when they are terminally ill, the tools that they need to live the last few months of their lives. And he's like, if it works for people who their lives are cut short, then it will work for you for sure. And part of what he's saying is that absolutely, it's like there's parts of your brain that you can exercise that just like a muscle, you know you run to become cardiovascular cardiovascularly more strong yeah and you feel grateful you can feel grateful you can feel like you're accepting
Starting point is 01:14:33 things you can feel like you're okay with things those are all things that you can to do and improve and and work on yeah you don't always have to be reactive all the time, like a fucking ape. Well, you do when you're doing a podcast. It's not entertaining. On medical drama TV shows, they make it seem like the cancer choice is this. You can have, I'll make it up, 24 awful months of chemo, or six months where you're really doing pretty fine,
Starting point is 01:15:02 except for the last three days. That doesn't seem right It doesn't seem like that's how it would really be. I wonder how it really is like what in very are the choices? I think it varies and the doctors are afraid to give you a concrete answer I mean, you know, they don't want to be proven wrong That'd be the worst thing. So I think especially with that prognosis. That's why when they said six to eighteen I was like, holy shit. I think usually they say less and because they know what's gonna be more. It's like yeah I was he was only supposed to last ten months, but old doc Rogers kept him around for three years
Starting point is 01:15:35 He's a genius. I think there's a little bit of that going on, but oh, yeah Yeah, I would want to I would want to go like I'd lie in the other direction as a doctor I'd be like you've got 20 to 30 years then they just Imagine that would he like imagine I do have 20 to 30 years Like would you consider doing like a Walter White type thing too to just like do a little crime there like just like do a little crime there at the end? Like, why not? I have to leave cash behind. And I'm afraid, I mean, if it's the Walter White
Starting point is 01:16:09 where I make a bunch of money and leave that behind, but that'd be cool, maybe. But yeah, I'm a little worried that like, if I did something that cost my family a bunch of our resources, that'd be a mistake. Well, in this situation, you're single, no family, no kids. What crimes are you committing? Bank robbery. versus that'd be a mistake. Well, in this situation, you're single, no family, no kids.
Starting point is 01:16:26 What crimes are you committing? Bank robbery. I've, number one, I am robbing a bank. What mask are we wearing? Theme. Oh, I would, see, I've thought about this enough to know that I don't want something over the top goofy, like a clown mask.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Mm-hmm. Like, I want something. Can I throw a little something out there? Maybe something with a muted face in the movie in the movie baby or baby driver whatever it was the guy says all right we're wearing Michael Myers masks it's a fucking you get the mass I got the shotguns you you know show up tomorrow the mall will be in the Malibu and the guy shows out and breaks out the mask and it's Mike Myers from fucking Austin Powers
Starting point is 01:17:20 Mass robbing the fucking armored car and everything point break they all did presidents different ones there was dick reagan and nick dick is nixon that's kind of fun yeah i don't know exactly the kind of mask i'd probably spend about half of my remaining time determining the mask and then when that was decided i'd pick a bank and my goal would be like i'd want to rob multiple banks and so i might like start even Small and be like I just got a better idea money. I think armored trucks is the way to go because I'm worried that the bank is like built to be to not be robbed. I'm not gonna armor Ready to die Dude, yeah, but who of them they're right there. I see both of them. They don't know I'm here to get them. And in the bank, I got to deal with all these innocents, all these
Starting point is 01:18:09 random like passersby, there's cameras everywhere. Maybe they got locking doors. They've got all sorts of sneaky alarms, and they don't have much money. If you ever go into the bank to get like 30 $40,000 to like buy a thing, they're like, Oh, you need 30,000 American dollars. It's a struggle for them to pull together the amount of money that you would expect from a bank robbery. But an arm, I know a bank robber of 100 grand. You know, a bank robber. Yeah. And what you're saying, Kyle is totally true. Coming from the mouth of a bank robber. So I hired this guy to work on my house a couple years ago and he's crazy, very entertaining guy. And I'm like, this guy's fucking nuts. He's a little
Starting point is 01:18:50 older and he's jacked and just like all over the fucking place. I'm like, he probably maybe he was on meth or something like that. I'm not sure. This guy's fucking just wild old, old redneck guy. And so he's talking and stuff and he's got all these, he's bonded, licensed, contracted. He's like legit. He's got a good long track record of work. And I see some people talking shit about him on Facebook and stuff, but that's what always happens for like local contractors. People get upset and I didn't do a background check. He was coming to like give me a bid. And I saw on Facebook, someone was like,
Starting point is 01:19:27 you know this guy Rob, 19 banks, right? 19. Sick. This guy is a, he didn't hurt anybody, he didn't murder anyone or anything like that, but he's a fucking bank robber, he's a thief. And I saw that as he was coming, so I was like, oh, okay, this is a little weird.
Starting point is 01:19:46 But he gave me a great bid that I could not turn down. Lo and behold, terrible work, did a terrible job. I had to have it all redone, so I wrote my fucking lesson. There was a reason it was so cheap. He robbed you. Bryce is right. And he started off strong, but he started to kind of come apart. And the reason he came apart is because he had spent 10 years in the penitentiary
Starting point is 01:20:05 and he just got out a few months before. So he was like trying to get back up on his feet. And he was doing a good job. He was very professional, but his team abandoned him. I think he's like kind of weird with money. He just wasn't paying them. I think that's the real, the real term there. But he told us how he robbed these banks and he's totally open about it. He sees this big white guy with just bright white hair, huge guy too. He went to Austin. So he lived in like Northern Texas. He would drive to Austin and he would find those little small kind of in and out banks on the side of the street that have an ATM right next to them.
Starting point is 01:20:41 And he would steal, he would put on a car heart in the middle of summer, use mascara to make his hair black, and speak Spanish and act like a Mexican guy. Go in, steal like 700 bucks, maybe a thousand if he was lucky, because that's all they had. That's all they've got. Do it quickly. That's what you can get easily and quickly And then he would leave and get away with it He did and he did that 19 times and the reason he got caught is because he went to the same bank multiple times like a fucking and on his Is it this guy?
Starting point is 01:21:19 The bad hair bandit is that's not him. No, that's not him. This was this was ten years ago This was this was this was in southern, Texas. This is I guess in Houston, too, though And I'm kind of famous. Do you hear my bad hair Brandon? This guy is a little out of shape the guy I'm talking about Dude, I want to say his name so bad. He's such a fucking legend you guys would he'd be a great guest on the podcast to be honest We talked with Jule thief one time that was a gas. So bad, dude. He he's like I'm on krt. Do you know I want krt. I have superhuman levels of testosterone 75 years old So interesting, uh, and he felt bad about it obviously he was on meth I think he said that he was like out of his mind at the time obviously and he said he remembers
Starting point is 01:22:07 driving back home and hearing on the radio that they knew who this guy was who was robbing all these banks in Austin and he was like And he just waited at his house and they came and bust him So there's a separate bad hair bandit. There's multiple. I always hear there's no cash at banks, right? Like, oh, you silly heads. You think there's a bunch of cash at banks. The thing is twice I've pulled cash out of banks because I was buying motorcycles and 6,000 and 9,000.
Starting point is 01:22:36 The 9,000 guy wasn't very sophisticated. And so I do the thing at the bank because they can notarize the title it right there and I ask him you do you want cash or cashier's check and he looks at me like a cashier's check is a scam like I don't think he understands that these are like a check guaranteed by the bank and he's a guy Better make it cash like like he's on to my shenanigans and the bank didn't blink They just counted out nine thousand dollars and they handed it to them so it led me to believe that nine thousand dollars wasn't like a weird thing for them yeah did they go have to go in the back and get the money I think so yeah so they in the vault they'll
Starting point is 01:23:16 they'll definitely have I don't know how much it is but I know I've taken I got 25 out to buy a car one time and I think I got 25,000. Yeah. In cash. Yeah. Oh, and they went in the back in the, they had to, it was a minute or two. They had to go back there and get it.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And I was like annoyed. It took so long, but they came out with it. They had 25 grand. And then one time I got maybe 70, 80 grand out and I played in it. In cash. Yeah. And they did. And they were like, I asked, I asked, I was like, hey, I'd like to get $75,000 out.
Starting point is 01:23:53 And I was like, I'm bringing it back, though. I was like, I'm going to take some pictures. I made it sound like I wasn't a douchebag. And they're like, like, come back tomorrow. And the next day they had 75,000 But they didn't have 75 for me that day or they made it seem like It'd be a real annoyance to come up with 75 like they'd have to hire somebody for permission My assumption is that there it's FDIC insured amounts, which would be 200 grand 250 per branch
Starting point is 01:24:20 Yeah, that makes sense that maybe they got a quarter mill back there, but I don't know these are little banks too. I'm talking about My little bank in Lavonia and there's only like three of those it's like a chain of three I don't think that I think the armored truck thing is the way Especially if you you could be super sophisticated about it, right? You could know the routes and you could know what days were big days and and what's the end of their route, right? You don't want to hit them after they've been to one bank. You want to hit them after they've been to five. Or maybe one bank on one special day.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Maybe you know something special about that bank. That today that bank has way too much money because a football player brought his promo cash in and dumped it on them and they're very nervous because they're holding half a million dollars of promo cash and they want to get it back to the reserve or whatever and there and it's a big deal Like that's the day you hit the fucking armored cars, but I don't want to go into a building I don't think about one versus five made me realize we're on the opposite ends I I always assumed those things were delivering cash and you made it seem like they were gathering cash They're doing both they do both but but at both. But they definitely pick up. They do both. But
Starting point is 01:25:30 in my scenario, the bank has too much cash on its hands and it wants that cash to get back to the reserve so that they're not responsible for it in some sort of weird... Because you know, I mean, unless you're just a day-to-day bank robber, I'd want to do this one time, right? Like, I don't want to do this every weekend. Well, we're at the end of ourber. I'd want to do this one time, right? Like, I don't want to do this every weekend. We're at the end of our lives. We're going to do it as many times as we possibly can before we die. It's just for the thrill. We're burning the money. Even so, even so, we're taking pictures with it like douchebags. We're fixing inflation. That would be so shitty if you were like,
Starting point is 01:26:00 I've only got six to 36 months to live immediately arrested for robbing a bank. I mean, you wouldn't want to take you alive. You know what I mean? If we're being honest, right? Like, like if you're dying, like you don't go to jail at the end of this, this road, I'm not going to bring a lazy glory thing. Like I'm not going to hurt anybody on my way out.
Starting point is 01:26:24 You don't have to, you know, you've seen police activity. If you run at them with a paint scraper, they'll take you out, bro. They'll hit you with 15 AR, AR 15s. You got a pineapple? I'll bring a very intimidating looking pug, the kind of dogs that cops just love to shoot. Yeah, one of these.
Starting point is 01:26:39 Yes, a little pup like that. Does that dog ever do the thing I see pugs do on the internet where they just go, ah! Mine don't have that gene, whatever that is. Little little pup like this. Does that dog ever do the thing? I see pugs do on the internet where they just go Mine don't have that gene whatever that is, but they've been a lot of genes Yeah, they got a little few extra but the um the the mind bark they don't scream for some I don't know. I've never seen that in real life, but I have heard it for and some of them go like that Yeah, they're congested. They're all they're all so stuffed up. Poor guy. My little Pomeranian sleeps against my chest with its head on my pillow at night.
Starting point is 01:27:12 That's adorable. I don't have to put it there. He like when I get into bed, he like hustles over and gets in his spot and like flops into me like real hard. It's so goddamn cute. But he's my girlfriend's dog. I got it for her for Christmas and it has completely abandoned her He is my little man now like he's just he's with me all the time He sleeps with me against me like just leaves her behind. It's great. Love that little guy I think I'm gonna get another one on my old dogs. I think Rocky might be on the way out He's got a see the one with Down syndrome. Yes. Yes According to you. He's just that's what Malamute's look like people are saying that everywhere
Starting point is 01:27:50 Bad way, I think he's gonna have to get put down soon. Yeah, both of my dogs are in that state like it Colin asked today like you kill my dog. I'll kill yours Colin asked Jackie why we don't take the dogs to the vet lately. And Jackie's like, I'm afraid she'll suggest we don't bring it back. Yeah. That's where our dogs are. They're going to sad. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:14 If you take my dog out, I'll take yours out that way. I don't have to deal with the horror that it's going to be because I'm not going to just send them in there to the death chamber. I got to hold his little hand while he dies and it's going to just be, yeah. I've done it a couple of times. If you've never been, if you're listening, haven't done this, basically, in my experience, you go to the vet. First, they give your dog something to put them to sleep. And by that, I mean literally sleep, not death. And they just fade a little bit. They get tired. They put their head on my lap. One of the ears is flopping and I'm like, I don't know holding the head and petting
Starting point is 01:28:45 the ear and then they give them something to stop their heart or what they do and there isn't a huge difference. They just stop breathing and you realize you've made an irreversible decision and if I've had dogs where like their health just fell off a cliff and that sounds terrible, but it's a blessing like I've never second-guessed when we put Brandy down she had brain cancer and It manifested itself as a little bleeding above her teeth, but like in a on a Friday She was just a nightmare. She was not standing well, etc
Starting point is 01:29:24 And by Monday we put her down and I mean a nightmare. She was not standing well, etc. And by Monday, we put her down and I mean, nailed it. That was the right call. We had another dog Dakota who was great, great dog. And he just slowly got worse and worse and worse. And eventually, we realized that his back legs were so painful to operate that his quality of life wasn't there anymore. Or maybe like maybe he had a couple good days, maybe the right like cannabis product or I'd be pro. I don't know. Like, so that one I spent 10 years and I'm still like, well, I think I've made two mistakes currently. It's okay. It's hard to make a judgment. I think the future of that is mobile in Virginia with horses. So my dad's a farrier. Mobile, yeah, the euthanasia comes to you, right? That's what we did. That's big. That's huge.
Starting point is 01:30:22 Because the dogs don't like vets and stuff Like I feel like that's the way to do it is to just let them be in their kennel or whatever their bed Whatever the fuck wherever they enjoy Right. Yeah, our last dog died in our arms on the couch Yeah, that's the only dog that I've had as an adult was a dog named Stella And she was a she my mom and dad got her when I was like a child, but she was a Mastiff So they don't they don't live very long. She was like eight and or nine maybe.
Starting point is 01:30:48 And she looked so fucking old and just in a weekend turn, like what you were talking about, what do you just tell? It's like, uh-oh. And then they bring out the, my mom is really, she's like a, she used to be there. Oh, my whole family is in like vets and horses and animals and shit.
Starting point is 01:31:03 So they know what to do and everything is kind of good and it just like So weird just laying outside on a bed and then you just fall asleep, you know wake up Yeah, we've been all that bad, but it's you know, sad asia. Is that what you'd look for? Yeah House calls like they'll so in our case, you know Lady the lady was wonderful. But um You know, they take the dog with them. In our case, it was a little dog, so it went in like a picnic basket type thing, but I'm sure they would take a big dog away too and they mail you the ashes or in a little box. You had me almost sold because I like what it does for the dog. But if I take the dog to the vet, then I can be the only person traumatized
Starting point is 01:31:50 and I could see jumping on that grenade too. You could do it out in the garage and the, uh, in your shop or something to, right? You know, something like that. The woods. Yeah, it's, it's, it's up to you, whatever. I'm, we're going to do a life. It's so circle of life. Yeah, something like that on the woods Yeah, it's it's up to you whatever we're gonna So circle of life, you know, that's why uh, that's why you better appreciate all the good days
Starting point is 01:32:16 So exactly the ones when everybody's here with you and you're not in pain Because you never know you might check your pager And your face could be blown off. Yeah, I might get got. Yeah. Thank you. You're right. I got rid of my pager right away. But as soon as I read mine, mine went in the trash yesterday. All right. I mean, my pager with tongs, the sponsor of the spokesman of the company was a guy with a turban holding the thumbs up.
Starting point is 01:32:46 What do you guys think about my 80 CIA gun? How about this? Pretty cool. It's pretty cool. I like it a lot. What does it shoot? It's a nine mil. Oh, okay. Not today. It's not, no, it's an actual gun. Okay. I have one that looks just like it, but it's not a real gun. I'm an official, I'm an official authorized Alpha can dealer now because I've got like I'm not actually a dealer, but they gave me a sign which is cool. It looks good on there, too They can I love this thing. This thing is fucking sick. It's the 90s style You don't know if it's a computer a computer programmer or a fucking
Starting point is 01:33:23 Dude protecting the prime minister or whatever That's the the vibe that I like the tuxedo with the mp5 and the fake hand and it's cheap. That's the main thing It's not an mp7 where you're buying that 4.6. Oh my god. Yeah, you know landmark has a has an mp7 and like feeding that thing I mean look mp7 is so fucking cool to have but I would even get that You know somebody You know somebody who's a dealer or a or a dealer who got one from law enforcement or something like that Like cuz HK won't give you one and they don't like that. He has that one So really? Yeah
Starting point is 01:33:59 Big sense like they're not helping his uh, there's a little button switch type thing you flick and then a stock pops out of the back if you remember the mp7 from cod and his broken And they're not they're like fuck you. Yeah, I was in a stream Two weeks ago. He said it was fixed Yeah, he had I think he had to 3d print something or get some 3d printed or order something and figure it out Kind of on his own is name. Yeah being helpful That's interesting. It's like I wonder does he he has like the full auto license or is it like some kind of bailment agreement? like what is the
Starting point is 01:34:33 I he doesn't talk about that wisely. So if I had to do He's on he's a person. Maybe he has his own like full set thing or built around him Or maybe he's a person on someone else's but it seems like he paid He probably 50 grand for that thing, you know, like like he would think that he's the guy That he's not just a person a responsible person on someone else's letter or like being loaned some shit I would imagine that he has built himself an apparatus around himself so that he can own that thing as long As he wants to own that thing Well good for him. Hope he enjoys his mp7
Starting point is 01:35:11 Aesthetically, I think the mp5 is cooler look old school off dude old school is the way to go You got a cod for vibe you got it Was it falling down is did he have an mp5 in that one like I I've always thought the empty Classic fucking look to it. Yeah, it's got a profile There's Charlie Sheen and falling down. No, no Navy Seals. Oh I was thinking of Charlie Sheen Navy Seal. That's the that's where my epiphany I talked to a real Navy Seal one time and he was talking about how Somebody like a level above them who wasn't like in the field was like,
Starting point is 01:35:45 Hey, I just saw this movie. You guys got to watch it. And it was Navy SEALs. It was the fucking movie. And he's like, why don't, and in the movie, I think they like, they like parachute down and they're shooting people while they're landing and not holding the toggles and, but they're doing a controlled landing on a rooftop. And he's like, you guys should be doing this shit.
Starting point is 01:36:04 Yeah. They're like, like, why can't you guys do this shit? And they're like, well, sir, we wouldn't have control the toggles. We'd be a dangerous landing, especially coming in from that altitude and that angle, that speed, you get hurt. It's like bullshit. I'll show you. And like, he does it. He jumps out of the plane. He's shooting targets on the way down and breaks his ankle. He's coming in down. Like each shit on the way. That would be the kind of thing where like you'd have to stand up afterward and just
Starting point is 01:36:33 grimace through. Man, long day. I'm going home. I got an ache in my bones. I think I may be getting the flu. I got a bruise. And it's like, no, there's a bone sticking out of your foot. It's like, ah, nasty bruise.
Starting point is 01:36:49 Bit of a rash. Maybe some, maybe some, maybe a bug bit me. I was, I was talking to Woody and Kyle before, uh, Caleb got here beforehand, where before the show today, I just needlessly made myself sad watching this memory loss documentary. Have you guys ever heard of the guy with like the seven to 32nd memory in England? His name is Clive Waring. Clive Waring. And I had watched like bits and pieces of this, maybe not fully paying attention years and years ago and thought it was fascinating.
Starting point is 01:37:22 And I actually just sat down and watched it today and with my full attention. And it's, I don't know if there's something as heartbreaking as this guy's story. Like basically he got a bacterial infection that gave him a wild fever in like 1985. And it's important to note that this guy was a musical genius, like a concert pianist, like conductor, like studied music, could play anything super knowledgeable, like a very, very bright, smart guy, genius level. And he got this infection. And then he couldn't make new memories. But he also couldn't remember old memories, other than like very specific things like skills he'd learned like playing the piano, or just hearing like a sequence of notes and being able met. He knew his wife and that was it. And every
Starting point is 01:38:26 time she like comes in a room, he's like beaming like so excited. He's like, Oh, my angel. Oh, you're here. And then two seconds after she leaves, he has no memory that she was there. And he can't remember the last time like he doesn't know of any plans for her to come in the future. And he would say stuff like like they, like he doesn't know of any plans for her to come in the future. And he would say stuff like, like they were trying to really solidify and it's difficult, it's impossible to put yourself in his mind's eye because it's just no way to properly empathize. We can't imagine that level of memory loss. And he would like on multiple occasions. This is like 25 years at this point. This is like a documentary of 2005 or so. So maybe 30 years after he's still alive. He's 86.
Starting point is 01:39:06 And they would ask him like three people and his wife came in three people making a documentary and his wife, and they were all talking and they were like, you know, do you know that you've been on television before this is the second big documentary they made about him. And he's like, very gracious, like, Oh, gracious. I know I didn't know. And they're like, really? You know, 10 years ago we did something like this. He's like, Oh,, like, oh, gracious. I know I didn't know. And they're like, really, you know, 10 years ago, we did something like this. He's like, Oh, really? Fascinating, fascinating.
Starting point is 01:39:29 And I have seen that they would ask, like, you know, what, what have you been up to, or just some sort of question to try and delve. And he's like, well, I've never seen a human being before before the four of you walked in here today, you're the first people I've seen." And they're like, really? And he's like, there were a couple lines he gave that really revealed how intelligent he was, where they're like, what has it been like? And he's like, I haven't seen a person since I've been ill. I haven't had a meal since I've been ill. I haven't spoken to anyone since I've been ill. I have no conception of time. What's it like to be dead? A 20-year long, dreamless sleep. Being asleep for 20 years with no dreams. What do you imagine that's like? And he's like in one of his 7 to 30 second windows right there explaining this and then his wife will be like,
Starting point is 01:40:15 Do you know what I do for a living? He's like Prime Minister of Europe. And she's like no. And any other guesses? He's like, Queen of England. And then she's like, no, he goes PR. She's like, yes, very good. He's like, oh, yes, yes, yes, a very fun job. Something new every day. And they're in the middle of a meal. He's like taking a sip of wine and eating. Not 10 seconds passes. And she goes, Do you know what I do for work? And he's like, no idea. idea no idea you've never mentioned it before this very moment and then what do I do for work? I want to take a guess and then he immediately goes Queen of England, Prime Minister of the EU. He's exactly the same joke.
Starting point is 01:40:58 That's great. Taylor, here's my question. This is like one of my fears but I hope it doesn't alter your answer. Was he suffering? Because it almost sounds like when you have Alzheimer's or when you have memory loss, you're not the victim. Everybody who cares for you is the victim. Yeah, you're fine. There is a tiny bit of an element of that, but unlike a normal dementia patient, actually here, let me link it. Zach, can you show entries from his journal in 1990? I think with dementia, a lot of that is just paranoia and there's a lot of craze and just negativity that comes with it. But what you're talking about, that guy is just like any other
Starting point is 01:41:39 living thing. He's like a tree. He's very with it. He can play a whole piece on the piano that extends past it. And so apparently from 1985 until 2005 when that documentary was made, he over and over and over would start a journal. And every seven to 30 seconds, he realizes he exists. And he's saying, you know, so 7 46 a.m. I wake for the first time, 7 47 a.m.
Starting point is 01:42:11 This illness has been the death till now. All senses work. First thought, I love darling Deborah forever. Deborah's his wife. 8 0 7. I am totally awake with totally X'd out. And so what he would do is he would write these Epiphanies every minute all the time and then have to go back and exit out
Starting point is 01:42:32 Act all these things out and right now I am I'm truly He's fucking discartes every every 15 minutes. Yeah, I think before I am he's trying to figure it out and so like His situation and this is why I made me so sad, like, it's truly hellish. Like, he he'll say stuff like, Oh, yes, I remember I have a son. No idea his name. Don't remember what he's like. Like just no conception of things outside of his wife. Like he and how did he get this? A bacterial infection. He had like 105 fever for a couple days and it destroyed a lot of his hippocampus. Oh my god. And so he can't create new memories. He was like a musician to the level that he was on TV, on the BBC. They would take him places and
Starting point is 01:43:18 have him play. And it was so sad. His wife was walking him through this big cathedral and she's like, you recognize this place? And he's like, never seen it before in my life. Never. And then they're like, he's like, so what if I told you, you held a concert here in 1983 that was televised in five countries across the EU. He's like, oh gracious. And he's like, what if I told you that you did, you know, this piece here? And like, even before mentioning it, he's like, yes, very interesting reverberations here. Interesting sound quality. You could pump his tires and never got caught in the Y.
Starting point is 01:43:50 Yeah. You know, you're actually the king of the world, right? Oh my. Well, for the fact that we have the old majesty from it's home. I'm the emperor of man. I'm going to need a better looking wife. Stacked. Holy psychos per day? Fuck. Dude, he's like so clearly smart because like he's got a seven second window to be clever and his wife will be like, darling, what is love to you? And he's like, zero in tennis, everything in life. Oh, my God. So like you, this guy lost every bit of memory 25 years ago and he's like somehow kind of suave. Like is it sad because it's like you just I've lost every bit of memory 25 years ago and he's like somehow kind of suave like
Starting point is 01:44:27 Is it sad because it's like because it is sad. I agree 100 but it's like babies don't have anything They they've got even less going on than that guy. Is it just not sad? The state the babies are in because they will eventually be out of it. Is that why it's not sad? Yeah Well, it's also I should have mentioned like he had children from previous marriage. Doesn't remember them. Doesn't remember them. He had a whole life of being a very successful guy, had a lot of potential left in him and like seeing all of that destroyed in like what has to be the most harrowing tariff.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Because for years, apparently after initially it happened, he would like just be freaking out because like just bursting into tears not able to function because obviously like imagine that every 30 seconds oh my god wake up and you think it's the first time you've every time you're it's like you're coming out of a coma and sometimes you're by a mirror and you're 10, 15, 20, 25, 30 years older than you remember you know 10 15 20 25 30 years older than you remember, you know, you know Basically, like you know that something's wrong, but you can't identify it and then if anything Starts to make sense. It's gone
Starting point is 01:45:39 Have you guys ever blacked out before you ever had the feeling of like waking up? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, you're just like awake not for real like a real choke out situation and choked out and then knocked out I mean, I mean like like you're just doing something and then you wake up. Oh, no, I've never had that Oh, I've came out you mean like well if you mean coming out of like a really intense daydream where or or maybe even highway hypnosis I've done that something along those lines. Yeah Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's uh, that's a really weird feeling. Well, starting at first, it's like, I was not in control a moment ago. How long was that moment? Because I also had a perception of time. Yeah. That happened to me a lot in a very short period of time. And I was like, probably going to die from a tumor. My great grandfather died from lesions in his brain and used to black out. And he was like 25 years old when he died.
Starting point is 01:46:27 And so in my mind, my dad's mind, when he was growing up, he thought he was going to die from tumors when he was 25 years old. Everyone always thought we were going to all die from tumors when we were 25 years old. And we all have terrible migraines and stuff. So it's like all these head, like, oh, what do you feel like today? Oh, everything's black and white today. Is it a tumor or is it just a normal migraine aura? And so like for a while I was like, I thought that there was something severely wrong with me, but it's just a, it's just
Starting point is 01:46:54 a, a, a consequence of migraine. Sometimes I'll be sitting at my computer and then I'll just be like, I'll literally just wake up and just be not doing anything like no hypnosis nothing like that and I'll just fucking alive He's seen you do that That's really scary. How often does that occur about once a month? Pretty like throughout pretty consistently Yeah, there was one time though or one period of time in which it was very bad And I was playing I was actually listening to pk which is pretty ironic and I was talking to my cousin who is one of my one of my co pk bros and
Starting point is 01:47:36 We were playing I think I think it was warzone when warzone first came out like a couple years ago and I was sitting at my computer and I was playing war zone and I think I died. And I was just sitting and watching some kind of cam or scene or something play by and he was playing. And I heard like this bang at my door. I was in the basement. I heard a bang in the front door. I was like, Oh my God, what is that? And then I walked upstairs and there was nobody at the door. And then I looked at the time and 15 minutes had gone by. And Clint, my cousin, was not in the,
Starting point is 01:48:13 like he left the call, he thought I left. And my game was just sitting there, I disconnected. And I woke up, literally, I thought someone banged on my door and that's how I arose. But there was no bang and it was like this loud sound of coming back to. And then I got really nervous because I was like, that's not good. So I started having like a little bit
Starting point is 01:48:31 of a slight panic attack. But while I was having a panic attack, I also felt like I was passing out as well. So, and I was like walking around trying to not fall asleep, which was the, it was one of the strangest things that I've ever experienced in my entire life. And when I came I thought I came out of it. I was like, okay, that's I think I'm good. I think I feel normal.
Starting point is 01:48:55 But the whole time I was like quizzing myself like am I dying? Like is there something wrong with me? What is like it was doing math and trying to remember stuff. Everything was totally cool. I felt like I was passing out but I was awake and standing and not like low blood sugar or anything like that. And I had a little little micro blackout moment. She's weird. Your instinct to walk around and get active. My instinct was to not to do whatever I could to not sit still to panic more. I was the opposite. Interesting.
Starting point is 01:49:26 Yeah. I told the story on PKA, what was it, nine months ago maybe when I fainted? I remembered it better when I told it the first time, but it was very late at night, like 4 a.m. or something, and I had to pee or whatever. I was very focused on one, not making a mess. I didn't want that, you know, the mess or the embarrassment of having made a mess or anything like that.
Starting point is 01:49:50 And, but like, so I finished peeing. I just wanted to get back to bed and lay down. I felt like if I could lay down, doesn't even matter if I pass out. Really, how's that different than sleeping? That's cool. So my instinct was to like get to bed, but I didn't Instead I like fainted and kind of had like a epileptic fit sort of thing where like I was aware of
Starting point is 01:50:16 My head banging on the tile, but it almost felt like it wasn't me. Like is that guy? Okay? Yeah, yeah after a bad like head injury I wonder if the in my case the the epileptic seizure with it wasn't epileptic the seizure was symptom of the head injury I wonder if that if like you passed out because of I don't know let's call it low blood sugar or you stood up too quickly or like maybe you like buckled your knees while you pee I know some people do that some people pass out because of that they buckle their knees a little backwards and it cuts off some blood flow and they get some like shock of blood that leaves their brain quickly to fill the gap when they stand up I think and then they black out and then you bump your head and then you you seize
Starting point is 01:50:54 Like maybe that did you have a not bump on your head? Yeah, did it? No, no I think I didn't manage to land softly. Yeah, so that probably gets rid of my little theory there That was scary when you told us that. I'm glad that nothing has come of that and it was a, maybe it was a dream, maybe it didn't even happen. How did it start? I felt kind of sick in bed and I thought if I like went up I had to go to the bathroom and did that, that I would feel better afterwards. and did that, that I would feel better afterwards. And as I was peeing, I like felt it, like I knew that I was in a bad way
Starting point is 01:51:30 and I just wanted to get back to bed. That was like my, you know, tag, the home base where I'd be safe again. Yeah, and your brain's not working very well at that point. You've got this very animalistic, that's home base, get there yeah well phrased and um so but the actual onset of it was like i finished doing my business and i think i like guided myself down during the pass out and then and then it was like it was dark and i was like
Starting point is 01:52:00 concerned for somebody else's welfare like you know It's like is that guy okay, and what keeps hitting my head? When you say you felt sick did you feel nauseous No dizzy dizzy felt dizzy. Did you did you didn't feel like not nauseous or anything your stomach? You didn't feel any like gastrointestinal things right? Okay. There's a thing called postural orthostatic, some shit tachycardia syndrome or something like that. It's called POTS. And it's like a neuropathic disorder that fucks with your, your, your autonomic nervous system, your nervous system. And sometimes when people, when you go from lying to standing or sitting to standing, there is an actual reaction your body goes
Starting point is 01:52:45 through to acclimate and and organize your blood flow because like you don't need the same level of blood flow when you're sitting as you do when you're standing or when you're laying down as you do when you're standing because of gravity. So some people have this problem where like it's linked with a bunch of gut stuff and there's a lot of science and studies going into it now, but sometimes people, if there's something going on in their stomach and there's a little bit of pressure or unevenness
Starting point is 01:53:11 on your vagal nerve, or I forget which one it is, whatever, but there's a nerve in your guts. It's the nerve that makes, when you're shitting your brains out, it makes you feel lightheaded and you need to pass out. Whatever that happens, if there's a little bit of cross communication with that and a little bit of pots
Starting point is 01:53:26 action going on you can hard I passed out like getting the sweats yeah yeah same same thing it's like it's pushing that little nerve and it's making your body dropping your blood pressure just fucking with your nervous system so that that's that's something have you gone to the doctor about it no yeah that's probably what they would say I would assume that's what they. So that's something. Have you gone to the doctor about it? No. Yeah, that's probably what they would say, I would assume. That's what they told me. That shit's happened to me too before. Well, why wouldn't they consider this my appointment? Yeah, consider it. Neuropathic POTS.
Starting point is 01:53:55 What do they tell you to do? Me, I have a heart disorder. I have like a heart meme. So they told me that I would probably eventually need to get catheter ablation I do not have pots fortunately some people have pots. I have a cat I have a extra node Increase your sodium in your diet from three thousand Done That's what you need Ten grams of sodium.
Starting point is 01:54:26 Your longevity your heart. So I believe it they this was when I was probably 23 or 24 when this was first like a thing and they said that it would either get better or worse and it has gotten better and it was like noticeably it will get better or noticeably it has gotten better. And it was like noticeably it will get better or noticeably it will get worse. If it gets worse, I need catheter ablation. So my, cause sometimes like if I, it's always whenever I eat weird food or if I eat ice cream,
Starting point is 01:54:54 it has to do with my guts. If I'm, if my body's like out of whack and I eat some shit and I bend over really quickly, my heart will like bang once in my chest and then it will like flop basically until it resets. So it's called paroxymal super ventricular tachycardia. That's terrifying. Dude, it's fucking horrible.
Starting point is 01:55:16 The first time it ever happened, it was the night that Deadpool came out on Valentine's Day and I had a huge ice cream shake and this all like these mozzarella sticks and stuff the next day next morning ran down the steps to grab my cat and my heart went boom it felt like somebody fucking punched me in the chest and then it was beating like like that like literally like that fast in my chest like 220 250 beats per minute and it was fucked up and my pulse was normal my pulse was like 70 80 90 beats per minute and my heart was like and I was like dad I think I'm having a heart attack I'm not sure though it means that
Starting point is 01:55:58 you'd be I and I would you probably the same I don't I don't know yeah that was a worrying thing for the doctor because a couple times it stay the same? I don't know. That was a worrying thing for the doctor because a couple of times it stayed the same and a couple of times it didn't. Does it always feel at the beginning though like someone punched you? Yes. It's like a, it's like a, those are called, it starts with an ectopic heartbeat. Everybody has like a lot of those every day, but some people are less aware or more aware. It's like when your heart flutters, it like thumps or flutters. Sometimes that can go into an actual arrhythmia. And that's what
Starting point is 01:56:31 happens. That's what it hasn't happened in three years, which I'm very grateful of that. Yeah. Fingers crossed. But, and I've been, I've like eaten ice cream and stuff and I've been, I've been, I've been slick with it. I've been, I've been pretty chill. But since you're experienced with it now I've been pretty chill with it. Taking double. What's your experience with it now? If you get that punch in the chest feeling and the heart flutter.
Starting point is 01:56:51 I'm solid now. What do you do to make it go away? You just wait? Yeah, so I'll inhale and then I'll clench and clench and try to clench as much as I can until my heart starts to slow down a little bit, because that's like, everyone has a sinus arrhythmia, which is like when you inhale, your heart rate increases,
Starting point is 01:57:11 and when you exhale, your heart rate decreases. Parasympathetic, sympathetic nervous system activation, and if you clench and then let off, it activates the parasympathetic. So I'm trying to game my heart essentially, or splashing cold water on my face, the diver reflex. That sometimes, that actually, I will say that helps, but it's never worked, because it's like,
Starting point is 01:57:37 my heart rate will be really fast, and then if I panic, it just stays maxed out, or whatever the fuck, because I'm full of adrenaline. And then it can go to 120, 140 beats per minute, but it's still flopping. It's not normal, it's just weird as fuck. Can you feel it while it's flopping? Oh, dude.
Starting point is 01:57:56 Yes, yeah, it's like, right now I can't feel my heart beating. When I exercise, I can feel my heart beating. It is like I am in the midst of exercise, but instead of my heart going And like you feel that kind of like in and out you're breathing your your body's like Responding to your input your body's responding to stimulus. There's no response to stimulus It is literally just there is a rat in my chest doing flips basically is what it feels like it's like just How long does it last um it lasts anywhere between uh 30 seconds and until a doctor resets it how does he yeah how they do that uh they i took beta blockers once no paddles i took beta blockers once no paddles. I took beta blockers once but I didn't have G
Starting point is 01:58:46 I have multiple it never has ever popped up on an EKG. I've never been able to recreate it on an EKG Hmm and I was prescribed beta blockers So I've into it Used to have hard stuff too. I mean so I was really really in shape. I was a college athlete, worked out six days a week. About three or five of those days, it'd be twice a day, six days a week. And so I was super duper fit. But I had some issues. One, my pulse got really high, like 240. Yeah. And one time I was a lifeguard and they'd put an EKG on me like everyone got a physical at the start of the year
Starting point is 01:59:26 and I failed it. Like I forget what was wrong in particular. Was it during, I don't want to interrupt your story, but during exercise? You literally just went to the doctor's office. They put some things on your chest and made sure you were healthy enough to be a lifeguard. And they're like, not this guy.
Starting point is 01:59:40 I'm like, fuck, but I really want to be a lifeguard. So I went to my personal doctor instead of like the city one And I did better that time so I kept working Yeah, I'm like there's something there a little bit. Yeah, I think it's um. I think it's humans, too It's like you know there's a lot of stuff You can do that can influence your heart your body's nervous system is so sensitive and like so complex And like me, for example, I thought I would have to have a fucking catheter
Starting point is 02:00:08 in my femoral artery go up into my heart and shock a, like, couple years ago, that was what I was looking forward to, or fretting or whatever. And now I'm like, I feel pretty normal. Like, I feel, you know, I don't feel safe always driving alone and stuff and fucking doing shit alone,
Starting point is 02:00:25 but I feel pretty normal, which is good. So yeah. You have always wondered about my EKG. So like, dude, this is gay as fuck, but the doctor, the first one that took the bad EKG, was a lifeguard like a few years earlier. So he was going to med school, then in the summers he was a lifeguard. And few years earlier. So he was going to med school then in the summers he was a lifeguard and he was like a legend. This guy had his like you know like to make it even
Starting point is 02:00:52 gayer he's wildly good looking. He's a lifeguard in the summer in winter he's med school and he wasn't just a regular guard like he represented the city and are like there are all these lifeguard competitions that seem like a big deal when you're a lifeguard. And I think he rode the boat or something like that. But he was one of the row in the boat. Those are like the jacked like coolest guys. They're cool in the swimmers. And when that's what he is. So he's this fucking like doctor city representing competitor in the boat lifeguard fucking gorgeous and he was
Starting point is 02:01:25 like a legend well he had just he was a guard the year before but not this year he's just starting as a doctor now and I'm like oh my god like this fucking legend here measuring my heart and I think he sent my gay heart a flutter I failed at EKG. You just needed a female doctor the whole time to keep you calm and disinterested. He's like, just relax and you're like every muscle tight. Trying to look jacked. I think that might have been related to why I failed by EKG. It might be. I mean 240. Yeah. That's high as to why I failed by EKG. It might be. I mean, 240.
Starting point is 02:02:06 Yeah, I thought I feel like, you know, like, confirm, like you'd think, oh, well, what he just sucks at taking polls. But when I was an athlete, I was really good at taking polls to other people would take my pulse on my neck and they'd be like, shit, it really is. Yeah, it's crazy. I've done it with like the straps that you wear, that like connect to your watch and all three like it would be other people and digital device. I'll get the same scores. It's just true So you still have that now? I don't think so. I don't think I could get it to beat that fast anymore. I'm 51 Yeah, if you ever go to the hospital or doctor about that definitely ask them about like
Starting point is 02:02:42 Testing you know bringing a whole term monitor home I don't think pots is I probably shouldn't bring that up because there's like a lot of people who fucking suffer from pots like they can't stand up or they pass out. I know a person like that. Yeah, that's terrible. Even while she is standing. She'll you talk to her and she'll like take a knee and then stand back up again. She's I don't want to give away who she is. She's not my friend. She's someone I know is friend. She's in her 20s. And I swear you look at her through a different lens because she's like, super model good looking. So she needs to take a knee while talking to you for no reason. And it's like, Oh,
Starting point is 02:03:23 that's cool. Yeah, we can overlook this Just doing lunches. Don't worry about it. Great. Great standing shape stand fit, you know I get those fucking panic attacks and the cold water in the face thing is such a I mean just an off switch or The panic attack. What do you what do you what causes you to panic Kyle? It's a you know, it's the fight flight or freeze response in my brain Over-reacting it usually something thrilling won't do it So it would never happen if I were in like a fucking gun fight or a fist fight or if I were jumping off a mountain I'm fine. Then I mean, I'm not fine
Starting point is 02:04:00 I might be getting beat to death or murdered but I'm falling off a mountain, but I won't freeze and go unconscious but if like I got a phone call that said a loved one died or You know Some big houses the house your house is on fire. You know I get that phone call. Yes It has been before I got someone sent me a friend of theirs had been diagnosed with terminal cancer and their opening text message to me was a picture of those results. And so I thought that it was my dad who's dying of cancer. And so I just had a meltdown, you know, just from I'm like, you're dying. And I had a complete panic attack. Also, but going back to when
Starting point is 02:04:43 I was 15, when I had the first one, it was a bully that I was standing up to. And I had a complete panic attack also but going back to when I was 15 when I had the first one It was a bully that I was standing up to and I was like, he's gonna cream me This guy's gonna destroy me, but I'm tired of it. I'm like, I like shove him in the chest. Fuck you Let's do it. And I didn't pass out there, but I went to the bathroom went completely unconscious in like one of the stalls My had an argument with my dad when I was 16 or 17 about a girl I was dating, and he didn't think that I should be with this girl, and I wanted this and that, I'm gonna move here and do this and that.
Starting point is 02:05:12 And he's like kicking me out of the house. He's like, and to me, there's no like, it's like a no-win scenario that sends me into these things. Like it's not a fight or a struggle, it's the scenario when it's like it's not that this is gonna happen It's like this just happened and there's nothing you can do about it And and I just completely freeze I get short of breath and it's like when you stand up too quickly and maybe you see that like Darkness that sort of slowly sweeps down
Starting point is 02:05:42 And a timer has begun I've had enough of these to know that we're on the clock here. We got 710 seconds something like that before I'm hitting the ground 100% unconscious And if I don't plan accordingly, I'll hit it hard I've hit I fall on the asphalt before and like woken up all skinned up. I Tripped over my goddamn rowing machine Woken up all skinned up. I tripped over my goddamn rowing machine The last one I think I was like I started panicking in my office and I'm trying to make it to the bathroom through the sink And I tripped over that goddamn rowing machine because it was in the hallway
Starting point is 02:06:21 And man when I woke up my feet were up my head was down and the back of my skull is just Aching had a big old knot on the back of my head because I went backwards like over it. I had like a cartoon fall where I'm like backing up and like spinning my arms in the air and stuff. So it's how long ago is that one? Two years, three years. I think you've had one in two or three years. I also most of the time it's full blown, but sometimes it'll be like this little flutter. It's like, oh, it's coming. It's coming. Control it, control it. Think about something else. Look over here, look's like, oh, it's coming, it's coming. Control it, control it, think about something else. Look over here, look over there, stand up, walk around, think, think, think, ignore, ignore.
Starting point is 02:06:50 Blue balls, blue balls, red, green, yellow, just whatever, just to make my brain do a thing. That's not what it's doing right now. And I can like arrest it a little. Like I can stop it with my mind, but there is a point of no return and it happens very quickly. And sometimes there's, it's just like, oh, we're going down where let's make it
Starting point is 02:07:08 soft. Let's make it a soft landing. And there's been plenty of times where I felt it coming and I just like jumped on the couch like it's home base over there. I'm good. And when you're on the couch and you have a panic attack, it's like here we go. This will be fun. It's not scary at all because I've done it so many times and I know it's what's coming It's a it's similar to when I pass out when I give blood It's a very similar like the the going unconscious part not the panicky out of breath Adrenaline dump that is very uncomfortable. But like when I was giving blood that last time I was like, hey
Starting point is 02:07:40 I'm going unconscious I'm gonna I'm gonna need a wet rag and Hey, if I go completely out, don't call nine one one or anything. We're good here. I'm going to, I'm going to come right back to, I just, uh, and I did, I'm like, I'm so close to being asleep on that. I'm blind. I can't see.
Starting point is 02:07:58 I go blind. Like I know what it is. Like fully just, it's crazy. Like blind. When I went, I went down to Walmart. Oh, that's the best. The best. Yeah. The Walmart panic attack. Yeah, I was on mushrooms at a Walmart and I started having a panic attack
Starting point is 02:08:13 standing in line and I told the girl I was with, I'm like, I'm going to go to the bathroom. And that's all I said. Well, I stumbled right past the men's room into a sunglass kiosk and butted it on the way down with my face and all those little pokey things, and then woke up on the floor surrounded by Walmart people. And they were like, they think I'm blind. I call his shoes.
Starting point is 02:08:39 Somebody hooked me up with a Gatorade out of one of those machines that's in all the lines, in the checkouts. And I'm sitting there Pretending like i'm not blind But i'm blind I i'm sitting on my butt on the floor and the reason I haven't gotten up and left isn't because I don't feel well It's because i'm blind And i'm not I know that I'll eventually your eyes open. Can you tell if they're open? Oh, yeah
Starting point is 02:09:00 That's so scary I'm but but it's just it's sort of a bubbly black coal It's like when you open your eyes in the night and it's completely pitch black and it's sort of like you almost see like Interference or something pattern, but it's blackness. There's no there's no information being displayed on my brain And eventually I sort of started coming to and my my my girls got she's a hero. She's like get up We're going and she's great. And someone was like he's had a head injury. He can't go she goes. I'm a nurse He's coming with me and she's like Yeah, well, she had her she had she had been before she had this isn't the nurse that you can kick down
Starting point is 02:09:39 Hospital for ignoring symbol. This is a real headband was a nurse. Yeah, this is a different redheaded nurse. I did for ignoring symbols. This is a real headband. This person was a nurse. Yeah, this is a different redheaded nurse I dated. I have a type. But when we got to the door, the cops were showing up. You know, the cops were there and she walked, the cop walked past me and like ran back around when she realized I was the guy making the disturbance. My face is bleeding a little from going down on the kiosk, but I got my shades on. My are not that he also got the cop just missed you wait you're telling me it was the fellow with all the sunglasses stuck to his coat? He was wearing eight pairs. With the indents of the hanger imprinted on the side of his face? She circled back and was like hey why'd you walk away from me? I'm like you're looking for me what are you talking about? I had a little diabetic episode over there my blood sugar got low I'm trying to get Sonny's barbecue. I'm like, you're looking for me? What are you talking about? I had a little diabetic episode over there. My blood sugar got low. I'm trying to get Sonny's barbecue.
Starting point is 02:10:28 I need a free Snickers right now. I'll pay for it. I'll pass out. Right behind her is the EMT with two guys like Huffin and Puffin coming in with emergency gear. And she's like, this is the guy. And they're like, he's the guy. And I'm like gear and she's like this is the guy and they're like he's the guy and i'm like and i'm like he's the guy and i'm immediately dropping dropping a southern cow i'm sorry boys i had a little diabetic episode in there my blood sugar i'm trying to get over at sonny's barbecue though it's good and it is good ain't it anyways so here's what i'm trying to ask i i had this thing when I was a teenager. I've told him many times my house got robbed and on game day I confronted the robber. I chased the robber out the basement and out of the house and this and that and I was brave
Starting point is 02:11:16 Woody but for the next 10 years I had night terrors about it and I'd wake up in a sweat terrified and like my sense of self was a little confused like it. I wake up in a sweat terrified and like my sense of self was a little confused. Like am I an action hero or a coward? Because you can make an argument for either. Yeah. John McLean wakes up with cold sweats too. Do your panic attacks impact your sense of self? Like how do you process that? You know, I'll be honest, Tony Soprano made me feel so much better about my panic attacks that I am in no way ashamed of them. I did.
Starting point is 02:11:49 That asshole made me feel bad about my BPAC. Don't you go praising him. And then Julia's Caesar to a lesser extent with the, uh, with the, um, um, the seizures, the epilepsy it's, uh, you know, he was what Tony looked to, to make him feel better about his thing. He's like, well, Caesar had those. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Which is like, Caesar had those. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:12:05 Okay. Okay. Which is like Tony sees himself as little Caesar, right? Um, and, and so like seeing it so well displayed on the Sopranos, they must have consulted with a doctor or their writer just has panic attacks because that's what it is. Like I have Tony Soprano style panic attacks, like exactly what you see in that show is what it feels like. And like what what it is like this slow realization that it's coming And and like if anything, it's like man, I'm gonna embarrass myself and I'm gonna scare people
Starting point is 02:12:35 That's my main concern is like I'm gonna scare people and I'm trying to reassure anyone who's around me that like hey I'm about to go to sleep for a little while Don't worry about it. It happens sometimes think of it as narcolepsy. It's cute. Tony soprano offers to help in that way because that is interesting. That way about Tony's cholesterol. When I get a little guy, but Google, I think Tony would have had three pounds of garbage. One pound is nothing. Did I've never you know, when you watch a tv show and you feel represented
Starting point is 02:13:08 stressed out opening the lunch meat paper and eating it compulsively I'm like I get it I get it I've done that. That's interesting though. You used to eat your stress away. I would have never guessed you had panic attacks I would never guess. Oh yeah's real. It's since I was 15 or so I would say. And maybe once a year, it's just whenever some bad shit happens or whenever I think some bad shit happens. It's often an overreaction. Yeah, and I and I don't see it coming. You know, it's it's it can't be very well predicted when it's going to happen. But yeah, I have maybe one every year or two I almost had one maybe last year Don't even remember why an argument over something something but it like flutters up and I can sort of control it sometimes
Starting point is 02:13:59 But cold water in the face always fixes it It's a little reaction to getting severely injured and going unconscious like going into shock Because I got stabbed one time in a sword fight and I was going unconscious and I threw cold water my face then and it's like boom Ret that's no more. We're awake. We're waking. We feel good now now can make rational decisions again. It feels so good stupid homemade swords me and Scott had Face boys being boys Yep, I fells I gotta head out. I gotta go to a meeting
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Starting point is 02:18:08 The end of a they are lost As bad and random as that guy getting a fever and then never having memory again There is that 19 year old kid who got dared to eat a slug Remember him. I think you mentioned this to me and he died right? I got a brain pair Oh, if only he had died Taylor. You see the parasite inside the slug Made him a paraplegic so he went from like a fun loving 19 year old the kind of kids like hanging off balconies and like surfing to like in one of those chairs that props you up like Superman and like it's awful. It he is dead by the way
Starting point is 02:18:46 Who Christopher Reed? Well, yeah, but the teenager who ate the slug He was there to the slug and there was a parasite in it that went to his brain and made him a paraplegic a rat lungworm I Got a little distracted. I was researching toxic shock syndrome. Yeah, don't eat fucking slugs guys Don't do it even don't even on it eat fucking slugs guys. Don't do it Even don't even on it even think double dog dare you don't do it. Yeah on a related note Don't leave your tampon in too long
Starting point is 02:19:12 Yeah, what will it do? What he will cause and encourages bacteria to grow which is what oh, so they go septic down there See toxic shock syndrome is just call it dirty pussy syndrome. That's that's what we're talking about here Yeah, it's like a death of maybe maybe i'm shocked i mean if you if men could get toxic shock that one dude who's like pictures of his room that i see on twitter way too often asmongold he's got like he's got that man's a professional he's cleaned up i just started watching some of his content like I Simultaneously really like it and don't know why it's so popular, which is a weird combo
Starting point is 02:19:53 He plays um Elden Ring, which is how I got into watching him The bosses in Elden Ring are really hard so you get to watch entertaining people try like whatever they edit together 73 attempts before they get it and he's entertaining. But then I watch him watch other videos where, I mean I don't wanna be unkind, but sometimes he doesn't add a lot of value to the video he's watching.
Starting point is 02:20:17 He's just making faces while it plays. And I'm like, why is he killing it? But he's killing it and I'm watching it. The algorithm likes him and that other gentleman whose names escaping me they do the same content They're just reacting to stuff and like I don't know also exposing their audience to it from there There's sort of slide there's sort of point of view. I guess to some extent I don't watch any content like that all my content is educational. I love I
Starting point is 02:20:43 Want to get his name, right. I'm gonna find it It's an edgy John Michael Godier I like I love John Michael Godier so much all he does is talk about space and and and like technology and hypothetical technologies and search for extra tech rest real life and meteorites and everything like cosmology with like cool videos playing on the screen and he has an incredibly soothing voice. I go to sleep listening to that guy. I've seen every video he's made. I love them so I got into content like that fairly recently like I'm out of it now. I like to say from one month ago to nine months ago, YouTube was just
Starting point is 02:21:21 feeding it to me and it's a little bit like watching more plates more dates in that when I First start watching it. I understand like a quarter of what they're telling to me telling me and then I'll increase like I'm getting like a third of it And I work my way up to understanding half maybe of what they're saying So they can they were talking about I was listening last night He was he was discussing interstellar objects impacting Earth. That means like a piece of rock that isn't from our star system.
Starting point is 02:21:48 It's not from all the rock that's in our star system has kind of started here and coalesced in different ways. And there's the Oort cloud, which is this really big spherical cloud of like ice and rock that's way past where Pluto is and everything. And that's still part of our like star system. It's all around our sun But then there's interstellar rocks stuff that came from other star systems. That's just flying through space really fast like
Starting point is 02:22:15 Twice as fast as the stuff in our star system and it also comes in at a different angle Because we're on sort of this plane where everything and this stuff's coming from above and below and stuff on sort of this plane where everything and this stuff's coming from above and below and stuff and they've seen a couple objects hit earth i guess we're good enough at tracking objects now and he's like it went down over papa new guinea and i was like okay well good to know good luck finding the little bits of metal in the ocean by papa new guinea and then he breaks down how they've done it before how they saw some object go down off the coast of Washington and they went out there with magnetic rakes right away and found bits of the meteorite. And then he talks about his background is in, it's really interesting, is in historical coins
Starting point is 02:22:57 and identifying them for treasure wrecks and stuff like that. And he talks about how using these maps from the 1600s they found the all this silver That was still there and his point was the currents don't move stuff at a certain depth if you're at a thousand meters down or a couple thousand meters down The currents are not doing a lot to a metal object sitting on the bottom So that shit's still down there and so the idea of going down there and finding this thing that's from another star and looking at I don't know how old it is, what it's made of. Maybe there's a fossil in there. What if there's a little worm fossil from another star system down there in that rock? That
Starting point is 02:23:36 stuff's fascinating to me. So I love that shit. That's what I listen to the most and what I watch the most. I like I said, I've never seen a Mr. Beast video. I don't I don't know what it what it looks like. Yeah. I haven't seen a recent one. I saw some older ones back. They were more low budget. Well, not low budget
Starting point is 02:23:53 because he's given away like a used Lamborghini, but it was like his six friends putting their hand on it. And I think I saw, I don't know if it was Mr. Beast himself or one of his friends, but imagine, is it Tupperwarepperware like you know the stuff you might store your sweaters in the attic in is like a storage totes a storage tote sure. So they put one of those over their head used an air compressor to blow air into it so it doesn't get
Starting point is 02:24:19 stale. And they were going to stay under the tote in a swimming pool for 24 hours. And I don't know why, but the air made him really sick after a couple of hours. I still don't understand what was bad about that air, but it was interesting content. It's one of the things I like about MrBeast. I feel like he made himself a huge YouTuber
Starting point is 02:24:42 through sheer force of will. I watched him, I think he said subscribe to PewDiePie 100,000 times in a row, because he was racing with some like Indian YouTuber, like conglomerate of Indian YouTubers or something, and they wanted him to be the most subscribed channel. So everyone on YouTube was kind of pulling together, subscribe to PewDiePie was like a bit of a meme.
Starting point is 02:25:03 And he said it 100,000 times in a row. And those like, I don't know feats of endurance to make him his YouTube channel popular, blow me away. And that's the stuff I watched. I'm sure his recent content is good, but the algorithm doesn't feed it to me. I don't think we have a good audience. Yeah, my algorithm is so fucked up. I go in there and I'm like, don't recommend this channel.'t recommend this channel don't
Starting point is 02:25:27 Like I'll do it for 10 minutes and then reset YouTube and it's more shit. It's more shit I know I'm gonna get a bunch of sad fucking dementia documentaries. Oh, I don't want cuz I watched that one video Now it's all gonna show up now. I get tons of gaming stuff that I don't want like like I'm pretty particular about who I want To see play a game. I don't I don't want to see just anybody play the game I kind of care about the personality as well as the game I don't want to watch just because of one or the other yeah at least half my feed is usually Gaming or it is obviously when I'm watching gaming content. Yeah, all those agent mythology tutorials and such I've seen a bunch of people playing that game must be a good game. It's a lot of fun.
Starting point is 02:26:05 It's really enjoyable. I saw, because I'm subscribed to Turin also from when we watched his Warhammer videos. And he does these like, the kinds of like free for alls that like I wouldn't even want to play in Age of Empires or Age of Mythology where it's like 12 people in there. And the game takes like an hour and a half, two hours to play.
Starting point is 02:26:28 And it's like, no, there's too much politicking in those games. Oh, is there? Is there a lot of like faction? Yeah, because it's 12 person free for all. So like, and there's a score on the side. And so if three of us are in the game and, you know, I'm next to Woody and I go privately, you can message just certain people in the game I could be like a Woody take a look at Kyle's score. How about you and I ignore each other? Make a little alliance and then we can deal with our troubles after Kyle's gone. So is that good or bad? like
Starting point is 02:26:59 It depends what you like like I Sometimes or it can be whoever's more popular sometimes will win. I know when we would play those civilization free for alls, we'd have six players, I think, you know, filthy robot would be so head. It'd be clear that he's he's he's gonna peak when it's time to peak. Or we could just fucking roll into him right now and ruin his shit. And it might ruin us, but he's going to ruin us. And do you want to lose now or do you want to lose in an hour and a half? You know, it's almost like that filthy get super salty about that rightfully so he's trying to play the game He's just good at it. The rules are different for him. Everyone's it's like it's supposed to be a free-for-all, but it's actually a 5v1
Starting point is 02:27:41 Yeah, it often happens like that Turin probably has a similar scenario because he's the he's the streamer He's the content creator there. That's that sort of Generated the audience that's that's they're playing with him. He's not playing with randoms He's probably playing with viewers and friends and such Yeah, I mean I watched him play just a little bit But just from how he was moving around and hotkeys and stuff like he clearly knows what he's doing He's not some which I guess makes sense. Like he is an RTS guy. I'm sure even though Warhammer is his big thing. He enjoys a lot of them Yeah, he plays a lot of different ones. I saw him play in Age of Empires 4 2
Starting point is 02:28:13 Oh, I haven't watched him like as religiously because I'm not playing Warhammer right now But he did have that thing with his hands, you know, he had to have surgery on both of his hands Because of some ligament thing. And so he couldn't play for like a long period of time at all. And people like gave him footage to use and stuff and kept his channel alive. He commented other people's stuff. It was cool. And I think now he can play more than he used to. But he was always doing like these hand exercises.
Starting point is 02:28:40 And I don't know, I was really just like gaming. You think like it's just I don't I don't know what had caused the the underlying issue I think it may be something else, but it made it hard for him to game But I thought this whole story is this dog and his girlfriend that he met overseas and married and made an American and all that stuff It's cool. I this is a long time ago, but Joe Lozano broke my hand and As I was getting a cast for it, I brought an Xbox controller to the orthopedic surgeon and we formed the cast in such a way
Starting point is 02:29:10 that I could hold the controller. And they're really smart. Right? And they really, at first it was like kind of a goof and it was like, actually I need this for a living. I need this to work. And they're like, we got you. And sure enough, there was like in the palm, it was formed to hold it.
Starting point is 02:29:26 Now, could you make my other hand sort of like a... I hold bananas with this one a lot. Yeah. This is my banana hand and it's got to be just so... And this is your softest cast material? Yeah. But a horrible material to jack off with. That would be so bad. I don't think you could even come before you caused blood.
Starting point is 02:29:50 You'd get ambidextrous, don't ask me how I know. Oh yeah. You figure it out. Yeah, I had my right hand let me down for six months one time. What was six months? It was however long? Six weeks maybe? When I was burnt up one time.
Starting point is 02:30:02 Couldn't use my right hand. You know, I was burnt up. Yeah. The acetylene torch ruined your jacking off. six weeks maybe when I was burnt up one time. I couldn't use my right hand. You were burnt up? Yeah. The acetylene torch ruined your jacking off. Oh my fucking god that was horrific. The burns on my face when I went down that time was all covered in neosporin and shiny. Oh it was popular in school.
Starting point is 02:30:21 I love that. Everybody loved the scabby shiny kid. I'm all gooey and scabby, like just big chunks of my face missing. And it's a testament to an unwise decision, which makes it worse. I went to school with a guy. I don't know that there were these Christmas lights that like moved. They kind of like Sparkled or something. These are old school lights that go on a tree and the box said do not boil and he's like, huh? So what happens if you boil them? It sure enough. He puts the lights and boiling water and explodes his eye needs surgery now
Starting point is 02:31:03 And he had to wear that like mark of bad decision making for a couple weeks at school. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Geez. Well, uh. We talked about it a little bit on uh on PKN but that I saw more that uh during the UFC match, this girl got this horrific cut on her face and every day I get a little update and god it looks horrific it is the worst cut in UFC history I feel comfortable saying that now you've seen it was stitching you really think she did it back oh my god yeah they did it backstage yeah it's fucking gruesome um that was a great card though I'm uh I really enjoyed that card a lot of people shit on it and said they were boring fights and a couple of them were But they just didn't watch the undercard and the prelims and stuff because there were some bangers
Starting point is 02:31:49 There were some really good fights And I love that that sphere thing I was interested in the sphere before but now I'm definitely gonna have to make a trip to Vegas to Go do something at the sphere. I really want to do acid, huh? I'm trying to look up this woman's name So, you know, I I don't know her name if you went to like the MMA or UFC subreddit There's probably a post in the top ten. That's that showing off her her Instagram videos and stuff I hate to be mean but she wasn't a beauty before the cut but now oh my goodness like like Especially it being a girl like like no
Starting point is 02:32:25 man wants to look like that no person wants to look like that it was just such a big wide gaping wound on her forehead it looked like a car accident not a fight it looked so awful Zach I think you can show this without us getting like demonetized for gore. Oh yeah, somebody painted her. What a pain sake. It's pretty good though. I feel like it tells you what she looks like. It's pretty accurate. Yeah. Half her face almost torn off.
Starting point is 02:32:58 Look like a bear attack. The two cuts almost connected. I'm trying to find the sewn up picture and I can't find it. If you look for Irene Aldana's Instagram, you'll probably find it there Yeah, that was good I'm looking forward I think it's next month there's a card in Abu Dhabi or in the Middle East It's one of those Middle Eastern cards and that's a banger of a card Hairlip fucking not Islam Makachev. Who's the guy with the hair lip? I always think of his name come I have Kamsat Chamayev comes out to my I was finally fighting Robert fucking Whitaker and I'm Sight for that fight. That's a fucking fight like like I saw Kamsat posting
Starting point is 02:33:36 He's and he's like flexing and it's sort of the cameras on his back But in the mirror you can see his front his back looks inhuman His back looks like an orc or a fucking like mythical creatures back It is so yoked and fucking ripply and powerful. He looks like he could pull a man apart If he doesn't get sick again I'm very excited for that card. The whole card is good. I can't think of it off the top of my head But from top to bottom, it's a really strong in October. No, yeah, and it's got the guy with one eye. He's fighting that redheaded like Dagestani or whatever Russian Muslim fellow who's got one fucking eye and the other ones all ghosted out
Starting point is 02:34:17 He's fighting on that card. I always like watching him go. So I'm psyched for that card They know white runs a hell of a machine over there. I don't care what I don't know why I get so much hate from the fans He's like watching him go. So I'm psyched for that card. They know white runs a hell of a machine over there I don't care what I don't know why I get so much hate from the fans. He's the guy Yes, I think the fans will appreciate him after they lose him yes, I like that for the most part John Jones Exception he gives me the fights I want to see and I love that even it doesn't even have to make like sporting sense sometimes like I just want to see these two guys square off and he makes it all happen. So that's yeah. I like the BMF belt.
Starting point is 02:34:51 I like the idea of getting a couple guys who are maybe not in the top three, but they're in the top five and they got business to handle and getting them out there and putting on a show two guys that match well as well. Like the Sean O'Malley Marab fight kind of wrestle fucked him to the ground for five rounds and it wasn't super interesting I like throwing two guys together who are gonna bang You know, maybe they're not the two best Maybe there's a couple wrestlers and a jiu-jitsu guy who could take out either one of these fellas But I'm here for a show, you know, I want to see them go
Starting point is 02:35:22 It's sometimes they have beef Sometimes maybe we're just trying to figure out who has the best hands, you know What and neither these guys have the real well-rounded game it takes to be a champ But man, I'd like to see it. He used to do sort of freak fights. He had um You know that guy that beat Kimbo slice the the Boston cop go in there Yeah, see how he did against the UFC fighter. Yeah and Yeah, something that I like it. Oh, um I'm not sure if you can see the He's small. He didn't he lost both his fights. I think see him punk. Yes. I thank you. Yeah. Yeah That was a freak fight and he sort of apologized after the after the second one. He's like he's done, you know
Starting point is 02:36:12 Like yeah, I think he fought maybe a guy named crazy horse or something and crazy horse tried to style on him But wasn't good enough to finish him. I can't remember how it went I just remember they both look bad in the second fight I like the freak fights, but I think you gotta be real careful you almost instead of doing that slap fighting shit he does I almost wish there was a like a B league for the UFC like he else he already he has his contender series where he has guys fight for A contract in the UFC. Basically, I watch a little bit of that But I almost want to see some freak fights.
Starting point is 02:36:45 I like, I want to see the big fat Sumo guy, like who can just absorb blows. And it's just like hard to reach his face because his belly's in the way. Like I'd be into a fight like that. He's just trying to suffocate the little guy the whole time. Cause that other fighting organization, I don't know who's putting those fights on,
Starting point is 02:37:01 but you had the one a while back where, like the one of the strong men fought the two little guys. That's a cool fucking fight. I want to see this I saw you probably know the name hoist Gracie. He was the first UFC champion He fought a sumo wrestler and basically he was on the bottom it's like I want to say he was losing the whole time, but Really? He was just trying to the sumo wrestler didn't have any finishing moves so he could get on top and hold them there, but it just lasted. There's no eventually hoist crazy wrist locked in and yeah, sumo got tapped.
Starting point is 02:37:34 I liked and, and I think I saw three, two, or maybe even three women fight a man. I saw that happen. I'm into that too. Throw some head here on the girls and sick two of them on a guy. That's a good fight. Absolutely. Hey, I'd like to see like untrained guy from the audience against a girl If you could pick it and make it like fair like like there's a because you don't want you never want the girl to get What you want is the girl to be able to beat up a guy from the crowd
Starting point is 02:38:02 But like if it goes the other way if like oh and looks like the random seat is Big Jim McCluskey big Jim come on down Big Jim take it easy on those gals, right? I came to bang Like you don't get creamed by a dude like I guess no no I'm like I'm into that actually Well, maybe maybe that but but you don't get beaten so there's a lot of celebrities at those things So there's a good chance they pick a random seat and it's like I'm sorry ma'am. You have to fight Jason say them Change the person no ruin the integrity.
Starting point is 02:38:45 Have you been following the Diddy? I was just speaking of him. I'll be back in a second. I would love to know more about the Diddy thing. It seems like in his crimes are implicated many, many people. Politicians, celebrities, what's gonna come out? I don't know about that. I don't know. So he's one of those people who's got his picture taken with everybody. I saw him with the Clintonsons and with the bushes and with trump and with everybody in between, you know He's a celebrity. He's a very very famous celebrity. He's got pictures with everybody that that stuff doesn't say anything to me But I there's a quote from denzel washington Where he was he was giving somebody some advice
Starting point is 02:39:20 About these after parties and stuff and like like like award show parties. He's like They're like, how do you stay out of trouble how do you keep a clean record how do you keep your nose out of the the dirty stuff he's like I leave 30 minutes before the devil gets there and it's I think the devil he's talking about is Diddy because I think I think it's a certain point in these parties it sounds like Diddy would like drug you and then I've heard such crazy stories. He was having these gay like Sex workers have so much crazy like continuous sex like like this crazy marathon Fuckfests that IVs would be given afterwards now I think that's a little I think that's the average person not realizing that a lot of people have they party do IVs like
Starting point is 02:40:02 It's it's not that expensive to get an IV after some serious partying And I think some drugs not I've never done like MDMA or anything But I know that stuff can really dehydrate you or maybe you just forget to drink. I know dehydration is an issue But the allegations are wild. They have him in a terrifying facility They have him in a facility that three different federal judges now refuse to send prisoners to. They won't send you there to this holding facility in New York. From the outside, it reminds me a lot of where Andrew Tate was kept
Starting point is 02:40:36 and that the windows aren't windows. There's like metal over everything in a very modern kind of scary prison. They've recently had murders and stabbings. I don't know what it's called. I just assume P did he's getting some sort of privilege treatment. He's crying. He's, he's begging to get out because of the inhuman like place he's in. He's offered his house,
Starting point is 02:40:59 his $46 million house and his fleet of jets as collateral. If they'll let him go home. He said there will be no women at my house except for the mothers of my children and my daughters like please Let me go back to one of my houses. They're like nah. We got you where you want That's where you want right there right there in that hell hole With 15 square feet is the guy who we saw beat up that woman in an elevator trying to yeah a long time ago But she started it. She was kicking him and stuff, you know beat up that woman in an elevator trying to yeah a long time ago but she started it she was kicking him and stuff you know that family guy did a great lead on
Starting point is 02:41:27 that family guy did a great that's like a storage facility it is I guess it is yes a hotel I'd stay at yeah you'd show up there and be like wow did Jackie did he is my roommate? Can you believe this? I don't know. He's been bringing up some troubling things. Yeah. So OK, so did he's here right now. He's really upset about it. I didn't know he offered all his money and shit is collateral. It's so hellish.
Starting point is 02:41:57 Hmm. Do you think he's going to get killed in there? Or do you think his fame out does like the sinister accusation? As you know, usually a lot of sex crime people don't do too hot in prison. Yeah, I don't think he's in a general pop scenario where that can probably happen. It seems like he's being held locked down in that little room, maybe with one other person. That's probably most of the day. Probably like 20, 23 hours of the day. As long as his roommate isn't that shredded pit bull owning ex-cop that was with Epstein, he'll be okay. I hope P Diddy starts ratting. I want him to tell us everybody else who's into this wild stuff. Let us know who else is like drugging and raping women. Tell us. Let's do an over and under
Starting point is 02:42:45 on how many dildos were confiscated from Diddy's Mansion. I know the number. Okay, you know the number. I'm gonna guess it's not as high as you think. I'm gonna say 23. I'm gonna say, how many dildos? I'm gonna say 78 and we're not doing over his bust. We're doing closest. It's almost 800 dildos. It's 760 something dildos. Yeah, it was it was almost 800 784 784 is the is the number of dildos that's a flex by itself having a Thousand dildos and so the classy house like A thousand dildos and so the classy house like
Starting point is 02:43:29 784 dilos have been taken from Diddy's house and that's enough for 392 women Did his face there finding out about the dildos being discovered is George Bush reading to those kids? You know what it actually is taken from so that's taken from a picture of him handling money at a basketball and an NBA game And he's gotten change back from buying like some snacks and there's some ones in there and the meme was always what the fuck is this thing he doesn't even know what a one dollar bill looks like is he so rich that's that was the meanest meme they used to make about Diddy that he was so rich he didn't understand one dollar bills now he has 784 dildo look i ain't got 784 i might may have like 30 or something, but 784 is wild. I saw memes going around that he had like enough baby oil to like fill an Olympic pool. It was like way too much baby oil.
Starting point is 02:44:18 It's like, this is gonna go bad before you can use it. How many of these are you using? I don't think baby oil goes bad. I think that's a, maybe he just buying in bulk. It's like honey. You know he's still thrifty. You know he sees a you know a mistaken listing on Amazon he orders times 99. So what do you think is gonna come out? You think it's gonna be a lot of actors, a lot of politicians? No no no no nothing like that. I thought all these people were at the the parties that people are saying are all fucked up. Yeah, but there's two parties at the party, you know how it is. Like, there's the party and there's another party.
Starting point is 02:44:52 Yeah, I know how it is. Say no more. Come on, if you've been to a party, you know there's like multiple parties at the party. Alright, maybe you haven't been to the party. I have a feeling these parties are nothing like I've ever been to. You've been to the school lunch table though, and you know there's like a table table you want to sit at and then there's a table you sit at maybe right like Like there's a there's an elite table of lunch of lunchroom goers up in Diddy's room getting railed out by two professional Dick-throwers and did he's watching and he's recording and that's Diddy's game Did he likes lots of weird sex lots of gay sex lots of straight sex
Starting point is 02:45:24 He likes forcing women to bang lots of his buddies. He likes he likes it seems like he was forcing forcing That was like the key thing like he's raping people He likes drugging people for sure. He's like There's all these clips that come sounds like he's worse than Cosby There's all these clips that come out where they're talking about what they put in the drink and how he'd how he'd have bottles of alcohol There's all these clips that come out where they're talking about what they put in the drink and how he'd how he'd have bottles of alcohol That he knew either weren't tainted or were like tea that he'd drink and then the ladies would get like the special bottle Where like there's something in there. There's like ecstasy in the vodka that he's pouring you So maybe you only had a little to drink but you're getting a lot of ecstasy or whatever
Starting point is 02:46:01 Um, so he's drug, raping both sexes, employing sex workers, putting on fuck shows and recording blackmail and holding it over people. You gotta take it back Kyle, you're right, I know all about this. Oh yeah, these are the normal part. You go to your first barbecue, people get blackmailed. This is what we do on our motorcycle ride. Did you just say who's the black rapper? There was more to come out of my mouth after that to qualify.
Starting point is 02:46:29 Who's the black rapper that they say Diddy was like Diddy's like boy or whatever. It's like, I don't know. Like there is a guy that they talk about was like one of his, you know, he was fucking a rapper and like doing stuff to the rapper. And like, you kind of had to be down with that if you wanted in his circle you know this guy had an MTV
Starting point is 02:46:48 show back in the day called making the band right where he's like forced Harry is named in in some things I mean everybody who's getting named Jr. Harry Connick jr. the singer the actor? Am I saying his name wrong? Cuba Gooding Jr.? Yes. Not Snow Dog. Radio? Was there doing fucked up shit? Radio was doing fucked up shit. No one can hear you.
Starting point is 02:47:13 This is not, this is BKA. That damn tape called Bush Beer. He was pushing a shopping cart filled with dildos right into this. Will Smith and Justin Bieber. Jada was there for sure though, right? Remember just like six months ago or so people were showing the videos of Diddy with Bieber like Doing the weird hug where it looked like he was like ham-handedly doing like a wire search like in Sopranos or something And everyone was like what the fuck was going on with Diddy and Justin Bieber? I was okay with that I thought I thought what was going on given what's coming out now. Maybe there's something else something else going on there
Starting point is 02:47:48 You know, I bet they were both look I bet he got pussy whether he drugged them or not So like me I like to imagine that him and Bieber were just slaying some gash, you know on the side You know just just we have Bieber like at a private party just like him and Justin Bieber when he was like 14 or something He was a big celebrity. Okay, yeah, yeah, but like Yeah Rick Ross or DJ Khalid Kyle was one of those. Oh god. Nobody's gonna fuck those two Promise you nobody's wanting to get in DJ Khalid's booty No, it was something like
Starting point is 02:48:24 I think the guy maybe even had that what's that thing that makes your skin go weird? Uh pale vitiligo, I think he had like vitiligo so you get vitiligo in places that you put a lot of friction So we what he's talking about this for there was a jiu-jitsu guy gets it everywhere all over him Like gets it over with almost and I just noticed that I think this guy had it over his mouth Dude, he ain't fucking with those two. Come on. That is not look if diddy if diddy likes dick or booty or man booty It's not these two right? He's got some like Will smith on his side or he could be a feeder either What he could be a feeder
Starting point is 02:48:59 We don't know about diddy What if he likes his rappers and his big that's honestly the, like that's the best you could hope for Taylor. Imagine this, imagine everybody's warning you not to party with Diddy, but you've been invited and you can't turn down a Diddy invitation. Like who are you to say no to Diddy? Like I'm going to go scope it out and you're just scared because you're worried he's going to do something to my butt. He's going to fucking drug me and I'm going to wake up getting corn hold.
Starting point is 02:49:21 He's going to make me do something with somebody I don't want to do and I'm going'm under pressure. Maybe at first it's normal and then all of a sudden I turn around and like it turned into eyes wide shut fuck party and there's devil masks like I'm scared but you get there and he's just cold cuts Taylor. Just cold cuts and a whole table of Entenmans. Not even good. You don't even know. He has a cold seafood platter. It's a tower of crab meat It's already out of the out of the crab. It's 30 pounds of a pristine Perfect sweet crab meat what do I have to do for him to let me get at it? You have to eat it while he watches that's it. I'm in he's a
Starting point is 02:50:00 He's just he you're his boy and you're always there when when did he eats and know this way and he sees it as twofold Not only does he get off on feeding you making a big old white boy But he also he's a bit gluttonous himself And he knows that you'll be overeating so much when y'all go out that nobody will notice these spilt a little Little rosé on him or a little little little cribbage here and there like like cuz you're gonna be up there Just I'm gonna be so lurping So then he's gonna make me a big fat person on fucking an even bigger fatter person he's gonna support you financially as well through all this like you're gonna be staying at his mansion
Starting point is 02:50:31 you're gonna have your own room like cash money records you're gonna be on the record in the background like throwing up gang signs you don't understand see if this was what was happening I wouldn't have a problem with it those are just either boys being boys just eating lots of food having a good time there's no rape going on no one's being coerced he didn't have a problem with it. Those are just boys being boys, just eating lots of food, having a good time. There's no rape going on. No one's being coerced. You didn't have to bully me into eating the crab. I'm here for it. I'll do it. This is consensual crab consumption. It would. But here's the thing, Taylor. He's raping everybody else and you're kind of... Do I know about it or can I try to blind-by?
Starting point is 02:51:02 Yes and yes. No, honestly, my hands are so slippery from the butter. I tried to open the doorknob and I couldn't get in and I gave up. Tyler is on the stand giving this long diatribe about how snow crabs are... You gotta understand, it was October! We're not in season! And he had
Starting point is 02:51:22 him! And then he would abuse me and I could just always hear some strange and eerie sound of cracking and shattering from outside the door, knowing that if I didn't do what he wanted, whatever was happening would happen to me. Then he got out the crab shelling tools. They're arresting Diddy and I'm behind him in a bib. He never bought me new clothes. I'd be down for that. I guess I could turn a blind eye to a lot. If I'm Diddy's buddy,
Starting point is 02:51:56 I don't think I'm going to tell on him. Are you going to tell on him? If he's doing this stuff? yeah. Yeah who you tell? Probably the police Who else would you tell so you go to the police and you say hey, are you familiar with P Diddy? And they're like, yeah, love his shit, bro. It bumps. I'd be like it's 2004 again Okay, then it's 2004. Oh, wait, you can't take my I take out my motor Motorolaor and I show them the photos of both the crab dinner and the victims. So that they know he's also a good guy at times. That night you'd be eating crab with NYPD and they'd be all mean mugging you for ratting. Then you go to the other party. Now you don't get fed anymore. You go into the other fetish room.
Starting point is 02:52:43 I don't think there's a good way out of this. He said, you know, Taylor, I think you're big enough now. I think you can graduate on up to the next room. Oh, is there, is there like ribeye in that room or? Nah, there's plenty of meat though. Come on. Nah, this is the rape room. That's the baby oil. The whole room is just a rubber mat soaked in baby oil, an inch thick. Oh man, dude, I hope I agree with Woody.
Starting point is 02:53:11 I hope he starts spilling and we get some interesting. Now, nobody rats on the homies. Nobody's telling on Bill Gates for getting greasy. Like, they just won't do it. Yeah, they probably won't. We didn't really. Much of a Maxwell hasn't said a damn thing. She's Lee Maxwell probably hasn't but who's it? The kosh six nine that guy sang like a canary about what murders I?
Starting point is 02:53:35 Forget what what he was yeah, but he didn't say he didn't talk about Tom Cruise fucking put figging Nicole Kidman while wearing a Satan Mass did he while like like Weinstein like filmed, he didn't tell you that story. That wasn't his kind of crime. That's true. Exactly that kind of crime we're talking about is that kind of crime. We're talking about that dirty, slightly satanic sometimes and it makes you wonder kind of like fuckfest crime. We're talking about. I want to know what Lindsey Graham's been up to. You already know. Tell me you weren't a little giddy when Laura Loomer called out Lindsey Graham for being closeted gay.
Starting point is 02:54:11 I didn't know that he had talked about her. I thought he would just catch in strays for no reason. Because in the context of the tweet, oh she was going at Marjorie Taylor Greene. I forget the details of what she said. But it ends with like, Lindsey, come out of the going at Marjorie Taylor Greene. I forget the details of what she say, but it ends with like Lindsay come out of the closet. We all know you're gay and I'm
Starting point is 02:54:30 like, what Lindsay do? How did he get involved in this? But I mean, like, could there be a bigger open secret in DC than that? Like watch Lindsey Graham talk for 15 seconds, any 15 seconds from any public appearance over the past 30 years and And like that guy's as gay
Starting point is 02:54:46 as the day is long. He's a conservative hardliner in South Carolina, no wife, no children. He's like a gay SNL character. He's like a gay SNL character. That guy is so gay. Yeah. I don't want to categorize someone based on their voice, but there's nothing about him that vibes straight. He doesn't have a wife. He doesn't have a wife. He doesn't have kids. He's 70 years old. He's a yeah. Like this guy is fucking gay. Churchill Kyle. Yeah, Kyle's gay too. Yeah. And we'll have that conversation eventually. We're all ready to handle it, you know. As soon as Woody gets the cancer and gets the titties, then I can come out as gay and be fine.
Starting point is 02:55:26 Woody's got titties. Woody's got tits and Kyle's gay. I'm like, preparing to come on the show and blackface. This is your moment as I finish the lips. Oh my God, not the lips. You're like, you know what? I think that you went too far. It's like touching the bottom of my nose The wig on and everything yeah That's that's one of my favorite Oh
Starting point is 02:55:57 Halloween's coming up. You have any thoughts? Yeah that you know, maybe mark maguire make it easy on yourself. Just be mark maguire Jersey that you know Mark McGuire make it easy on yourself just be Mark McGuire Jersey I don't have a Mark McGuire Jersey I know you'd have to purchase one yeah that's how Halloween costumes work yeah but if I'm gonna buy a costume anyway I may as well be blackula that be is that just Dracula but I also do blackface yeah yeah or count chocolate I saw that this just Dracula, but I also do blackface? Yeah. Yeah. Or Count Chocula. I saw that, uh, this just made me laugh. I was watching the, one of the extended offices and like Dwight was being that German Santa
Starting point is 02:56:33 who had like a black slave boy. Unterklaas. Yeah, Unterklaas or Unternuch. And then Black Peter. Yeah, Black Peter. And then Stanley was like, you better not have a, you know, some boy in blackface or some shit. And Dwight's like, of course we don't. And then later you see Nate with like the beat, like with lips on and like some like shoe polish on his neck. No, he's in blackface. He's in
Starting point is 02:56:57 blackface. But it was just lips and then like black down here. His whole face is black. Oh, I didn't see the clip. He's in the parking lot, walking to the office in blackface, wearing the uniform, and he gets a text and the text just says, it's off! And he goes, dang! He just turns around on the spot comically and leaves. Yeah, that was a good
Starting point is 02:57:18 episode. And then there was an episode where Michael was mad at Daryl for being popular and so he was going to dress as Daryl and he puts on the black afro wig and you could tell that he was thinking about going full black face because he's got a little shoe polish rubbed on his neck. He's like, ah, that's the wrong tone. That won't work. I don't think it's going to go over too well.
Starting point is 02:57:35 I wish blackface wasn't lost to us. I saw Will Ferrell give an interview recently where he said that if he could go back, he wouldn't dress as women on the show. Like that's because that's a bad thing now and he he feels like it's why? Because he feels like it's mocking trans sexuals She is because he just he also just did like a I don't it's a documentary as much as a TV show where One of the head writers on SNL who was like his guy who wrote all those sketches for him came out as trans Recently and it's like a 70 year old white man who's now a lady and so this 70 year old white man Who's now lady is dressed up as a lady now and her and will ferrell are going on a road trip
Starting point is 02:58:18 And that's the show and so that the two of them in the car together. It's like It's just immediately funny. It's immediately funny Do you think if you do blackface well enough, it's still okay? Not anymore. Not anymore. Like I don't think I did it on um, Tropic thunder robin sunny did it Yeah, those episodes have been removed. You can't get those episodes without buying the dvds now. Those aren't broadcast anymore The and it was brown face. Oh, I know there's blackface for the lethal weapon episodes. And then there's brown face because Dee has
Starting point is 02:58:49 a character called like Rosanna Danakanna or some shit where she's like a sassy Latino, Latina and she's just got fake titties and complete brown face like chocolate putting on her face basically. And they took all those episodes out of the catalog that gets streamed You got to get some DVD somewhere I guess to watch those anymore if you want to see them I hate when they remove old episodes of stuff because of modern sensibilities do it to South Park. They do it to sunny Any of the funny shows end up having it done to them seemingly Yeah, I don't know. I wish they wouldn't do that those episodes weren't the kind of racism that needs to be removed. They were like making fun of racists. Like the whole point is this guy's an idiot. He thinks this is the move.
Starting point is 02:59:37 He doesn't think he's mocking black people. He thinks that the best way to portray Murtaugh is to be black. Like that's the joke, that he's a moron and tasteless and everyone else is having to stomach it because they wanna get the project done. That's just like how nobody wants to deal with Frank sneaking in a fuck scene in the middle of the movie, but he's the funding, so they gotta film it. Like they don't like either of those things, especially there's a part where they're showering
Starting point is 03:00:04 and the black is washing off Like like the hair is coming out in clumps and Dennis reacts with this look of disgust. He's just Rolling and then they cut and They clearly brought in a butt double for Mac like Matt had requested an ass double and it's like it's like a bodybuilder dude with like a perfect body like he sculpted with 10% body fat so good like I can't I don't understand why you got to cut that out with South Park they had the fucking al-qaeda threatening to cut their heads off and stuff and still they wouldn't bend but Comedy Central bent and they censored those episodes
Starting point is 03:00:45 and removed big cuts out of those episodes. The Super Friends. They got rid of the whole Super Friends episode. Yeah, they went back and got the Super Friends episode but the episode that they were in the process of making was right not too long after that Danish cartoonist had been had been murdered by Islamists or whatever, terrorists, you know, Taylor's friends, Taylor's friends, people he doesn't want to blow up. Well, I don't mind blowing up Hezbollah. Oh, suddenly it's okay. People at the grocery store who are unaffiliated that I have. The Hezbollah grocery store I'll have, you know. Look, nobody, those aren't good people. The Hezbollah grocery store. That was the Hezbollah grocery store. I'll have you know, look nobody Grocery That was the has blah grocery store clearly, you know
Starting point is 03:01:29 You get hand grenades on aisle for fucking bomb vests and out three and and fucking falafel on aisle five You know grocery store that'd be like you've never seen has blah throw tomatoes at tanks Taylor How do you think where do you think they get them regular grocery stores? I would say it's probably Taylor, how do you think, where do you think they get them? Regular grocery stores? I would say it's probably throwing the shoot rockets. Yeah. Big to do.
Starting point is 03:01:54 I like the stuff's going on the news. Yeah. You always are like kind of a worry war, like, Oh, this is good. This is bad. I don't want this to happen. That happened. We're in no control of it. So I'm just too long for the ride. You know, I want to see some cool shit happened. So when I see him break out a new rocket system a new boat, they got some new submarines Now do you see that you got the ladies on the new submarines? They put a pisser in for the girls now so they can put girls in subs that the first uh, Integrated is that it's not integrated. What is it when you get man and women together co-ed first co-ed? Uh,
Starting point is 03:02:20 Summer were they peeing beforehand? Well, they let them on subs beforehand but you implied that the problem was that girls can't pee in boy toilets and i'm yeah it's pressurized they can't no uh trust me the admiral assured me how do they shit if they didn't they attacked a vacuum hose to your orifice i don't believe you i hate that wait now we're in space i thought we're on submarines no it's like space i, a sub could operate in space. I'm making cogent points here that aren't made up. I'm not sure the propulsion's going to get it done.
Starting point is 03:02:51 The sub could operate in space. Of course it could. I do believe you somehow. If we could somehow get it up there. I know it can't propel itself, Woody. We'll need thrusters. The prop isn't going to much because the submarine has a device that uses water and gets the oxygen out and puts it in The cabin so they don't have to surface That won't work. Yeah, but we've got enough oxygen for a long period of time. It's got their co2 scrubbers in there I'm not saying we're gonna live in our sub in space and
Starting point is 03:03:23 Definitely, I'm just saying we can make a few orbits around the earth Come on back and then burn up in the atmosphere Yeah, because it's you know, it's made of the same rubber on the outside Yeah, yeah I don't know what changes they had to make other than just letting girls on the submarine seems like a terrible idea Seems like they're gonna be fucking down there. Seems like it's gonna stink down there. Well to see there's gonna be You're not gonna be able to filter that but to see like it's gonna stink down there. What to see there's gonna be in the sub You're not gonna be able to filter that but to see out it's gonna stink. All right, there's gonna be there's gonna be pads clogging up The the the plumbing down there. I don't know. You got a point plumbing. Maybe the guys will do less
Starting point is 03:03:57 Homosexual sex Yeah, and that's do you know what that's going to do to ruin their bonding? Yes, you know what that's gonna do to morale if you're not getting any any booty anymore? You got some girls or what's going to happen is now there's like three pussies on this boat and 80 cocks before there was 40 cocks and 40 bucks. There's going to be some four and a halfs who think they're tens by the end of this tour. They are tens. They're on the boat in the under the sea like they're going to when you're under the ice cap. Have you on the boat under the sea. Like they're going to... When you're under the ice cap.
Starting point is 03:04:27 The stories from like military women where it's like, you know, come out, it'll be like this private, you know, Susan whatever was having sex with everyone in her platoon and her seniors. And you're like, who is this? Who is this bombshell gonna be? And it's the most plain Jane fat woman.
Starting point is 03:04:43 And it's like, wow, they really are in a pussy desert. And so any of them show up and they're just all fiending. Private gas. And you fucked this woman. You don't have me. What's the better accomplishing out of these three? Okay. You're a let's just say where you are, you're of legal age, but you're still in high school and you score a hot teacher All right. All right, you're a guy and she's a girl in these scenarios or You're in prison. You score the hottest of the the cops of the prison guards Or you're on the nuclear submarine and you get the hottest girl on the submarine and these three pussy deserts guard Which is more impressive guard for sure
Starting point is 03:05:25 Why because it's got the most potential downside the most balls to go for it Like if you get turned down in the middle of the ocean, you're gonna have some awkward, you know mess hall encounters But that'll be it if you're doing it with a prison guard and she's not receptive It could be like fucking Oz and now you're getting fucking wrapped on the shin all the time, getting beaten. You know, they're not bringing you. Oh, you're worried that you're getting thrown in the shoe now. And so high risk, high reward. I'll take that in the other situation.
Starting point is 03:05:53 I have a different answer. The girl, the girl guard, even the ugly ones. Well, actually, there was an ugly one that they all laughed at and made fun of because she was like short with these big titties. Look at that troll ass hole. Here. What else did they say? Do it. Because she was like short with these big titties. Look at that troll ass ho That go Barry look at ho Isn't that what uh, and what tom bombadil's girlfriend's name was go Barry
Starting point is 03:06:19 Yeah But she was nasty as fuck But they were hitting on him. Nonetheless like like everybody would kind of be flirtatious with the guards Oh, they're just waiting on any reciprocation just a little Go to sort of like like look back a wink a giggle like everybody's hitting on like in a soft Respectful way like look at you bringing some beauty into this awful place this morning Good good morning to you and thank you for gracing us with your presence ma'am You get that after you leave your husband who's like,
Starting point is 03:06:48 have a good day. Yeah, you too. And then you come up here and there's like a 28 year old dude who's yoked going, look at you gracing us with your presence, for your beautiful self. God damn, my day has been made. I'm happy to be in the federal prison system on a day such as today. My goodness has the sun risen in the east. Oh, no, it is you. I imagine this is a white guy because it's one here. It is. Yeah, of course. What did you picture? Yeah. I told you I was making sure you're doing your white guy.
Starting point is 03:07:16 Cap on backwards, baggy pants, says something like for shizzle. In jail. So I think this submarine girl is the highest accomplishment and my reasoning is this. I think you have the best competition in that regard. Like if you're the hottest high school guy, well **** half of those guys are Woodies that haven't hit puberty, right? Of course, she picked you. If you're in prison, half of those guys are toothless, tatted up people that that have struggled to
Starting point is 03:07:43 score girls. Of course, you're the cream of that crop. But when you're talking about like Navy sailors and everybody's between like 18 and 28 and you're the guy who nails that like 300 to one ratio of pussy, you have climbed Mount Olympus. Like you've done something amazing. I think he swayed me away from the high school kid. Although I will say I'll have different answers organically. That's fun. I
Starting point is 03:08:09 the high school kid thing to me, it's like That's a story like like I there was a guy who did that he she wasn't a teacher. She was like a teacher's They went to baseball camp and she was like a camp counselor at the baseball camp so affiliated with the educational system and we were young we were 17 and he was 16 and and it was known The greatest thing i've ever even I heard of Like like that was such an accomplishment like that was better than winning like the football game or the fucking spelling bee like He had sex with a 25 year old hot chick, you know, and like it was I still think about that It was like my god what a fucking fucking win. Like, that's it. And he wouldn't brag about it,
Starting point is 03:09:06 he'd just sort of like beam when the story was told. It was like, do you hear what Johnny did? And he just sat and sit there, like Washington crossing the Delaware, just like knee popped up like Captain Morgan, just looking. That's right. Was Johnny like the best guy in high school? Was he the cream of the crop?
Starting point is 03:09:21 You know. One of the five. I guess he was a good looking guy and he was an athlete. But sure, I guess he's probably, she's thought so at the baseball camp. She thought he was the cream of the crop. There was a guy in my high school and I don't know if it's true,
Starting point is 03:09:36 but like the substitute teacher comes in and everyone is just drooling over this woman. She's, how hot is she? She's attractive, but she's a substitute teacher, which makes her like a hot sub is uncommon. Anyway, everyone's like hitting on her. Not me, I knew my place, but like people who maybe had a hint of a shot
Starting point is 03:09:57 were all hitting on her, except this one guy. This one guy just sort of casually kept it back a little. He had a different kind of vibe about him and they start smiling at each other. And sure enough, he's the one that's connecting with her. And I think everybody thought not I think everybody thought they banged before. Like she rolled in there and said, I think she's already fucked this guy. This guy was a world-class athlete. He was a wrestler.
Starting point is 03:10:23 His record in wrestling at one point was like 110 and zero. He won state champs, his freshman, sophomore and junior year. And he actually got second his senior year, but he wrestled two weight classes above his own to get better competition. And he won every match except that one. But yeah, so I think that is the guy who rose above all the other high school kids, but still like, you talk about the sailors on an, on a sub, they're all impressive. Of course you think about prison though. I've known some Submariners, they were pudgy fuckers. You know, it's not a, it's not a real athletic position. I don't think if you're operating gear, but I get, but your point is sound. Uh, I think you're right, but I think the lifelong achievement would come from the high school kid
Starting point is 03:11:08 Yeah, I think if you're the best-looking girl is probably gonna be the Navy chick that you scored in the nuclear submarine though Yeah, where do we fuck down there though? It's gonna be awkward like it's gonna be yeah, it's gonna be noisy I imagine a lot of clanking no privacy Yeah, that's the point. I think it's going to be somewhere where there's way opposite of that. You guys are like, how are we going to get privacy? Like, how you doing this all wrong? I'm going to be a Titan at the end of the session. Oh, my God. There's no risk to the other two though. Like really, you know, you bang the lady on the fucking sub. If she hooks up with you and like now you're her main squeeze
Starting point is 03:11:48 The other sailors aren't gonna like beat you with soap and socks and stuff. They might rat you out You know same with the school thing But the prison thing if you start hooking up with the prison guard you think everyone's gonna be like, oh, that's great I wanted to hook up with the prison guard, but you know, I guess it's, you know, Steve's turn to do that. I guess he gets that. Now someone might stab you. They might use a shard of a fucking tray. I listened to way too many prisoners talk about that stuff. And it's like, they'll be set. It's very common, apparently, first of all, like there will be multiple guys who each have a prison guard girl, and they'll be sneaking them stuff in. so that's like a supply line like like they'll they'll sneak in he talks about how they'll sneak in cigarettes and stuff and how he could he give the guard a $50 bill cash and the guard would give him back X
Starting point is 03:12:37 amount of like Winston no filter cigarette 100s Stomped flat in the bottom of his shoe and he'd take each one apart and make five individual cigarettes that he'd sell for $7 so seven times 35 So he's making like seven hundred dollars a fucking pack or something like that something crazy Um, and that's like a business so you wouldn't rat on them They don't rat on them people that rat get fucking stabbed up apparently in like real prison
Starting point is 03:13:04 Them they don't rat on them people that rat get fucking stabbed up apparently in like real prison He talked about I didn't mean remember like someone taking matters into their own hands beating you up out of jealousy here He was a member of multiple guys like you would see sometimes. Yeah, he's monogamous relationships It's not what I would have expected both both because there was that one lady who was famously was like escaped with the her her prisoner boyfriend. She was one of the ghouls when it turned out later on. It's like this lady loved this guy so much she broke him and his buddy out of prison and went on the run with them. And it's like, oh my God, somebody's got to be good looking in this whole thing.
Starting point is 03:13:40 And I guess the guy was like a decent looking fellow, but the lady was a ghoul. And I just imagine him being like, Hey, they're beautiful. Yeah. She looks at him with his good eye. I forget his name. I used to watch a YouTuber who was a prison inmate for some period of time. And he was like, these guys are often very charming and they have unlimited time, eight hours a day, just thinking of what he's gonna say,
Starting point is 03:14:05 like planning his next move. Like if your wife works in a correctional facility, you gotta know they are charming the pants off her every day. It is not just one man's life mission, but like 300 men are making it their mission to get in there. Maybe it would be easier in the prison situation because like even the most
Starting point is 03:14:32 ghoulish of characters like serial killers, serial rapist killers, like they go to prison and they end up getting like a slew of love letters and stuff like some do like Ted Bundy and it seems like the high profile ones. Ramirez had like he had hot chicks at his fucking trial and he's looking back at him winking And it's like this is the guy who raped and murdered couples in their bed This is the guy who would sneak into your house and kill your children slowly Like this is a they called him the night stalker. You know what I mean? This is evil personified Uh, he's one of my favorite. Um serial killers because he got his comeuppance Like they printed his paper his picture in the paper before they caught him. And the citizens of the town, maybe San Fran, caught his ass and beat the dog
Starting point is 03:15:13 shit out of him before the cops got there. Like they beat the shit out of him in the street. He's like, that's him. That's the night stalker. They whooped his ass. They were holding him when the cops got there. Nice. I like that. Pretty sure that's what happened. Yeah. But he was one of those guys with all the love letters and stuff yeah i know this guy was talking about this prisoner was talking about there also he's
Starting point is 03:15:32 in a scary prison keep that in mind um but there's like some five foot five female guard who just joined there and normally they really do have this don't hurt women kind of attitude it's sort of universal uh for the most part unless it's a different race, but that's another story. But this lady was being like super disrespectful. She was going into people's cells, like leaders of gangs cells and throwing their kids' pictures in the toilet, stomping on their belongings,
Starting point is 03:15:58 like trashing their cell for no reason. And one of the leaders is like politely tells her you shouldn't do that like you shouldn't disrespect us this way we show you respect you show us respect there's a hierarchy here we keep each other in check each other in line like that way you know nothing bad happens and she throws them in the hole so they're like so we found so we so he's like so what did you do it's like we torpedoed her he's like what that torpedoing? Someone is when you pick someone who's like a child molester um a punk somebody who's
Starting point is 03:16:32 kind of got like A letter on their head that says get me and you forced them to go get the person So in this case, it was an arsonist It was a fire bug and one of his fires had killed a kid. And so that meant he's persona non grata. So every day he's getting like, hat knocked off his head in line, like slapped in the mouth, food stolen, beaten up, stomped out, threatened, might kill you tomorrow.
Starting point is 03:16:56 Fuck you punk, steal your lunch. That kind of shit is like daily for him. And so they tell this guy, hey, we're in every prison system. We're in every prison in the federal system. I've got members here and members there. They could send you to Florida, they could send you to Massachusetts.
Starting point is 03:17:09 It's the same ass whooping courtesy of yours truly. You go whoop that guard's ass and you make sure she knows she got an ass whooping and you're good. And he beat the shit out of her and sent her to a meta flight. They had to fly her to a hospital to deal with what he did to her.
Starting point is 03:17:26 And I guess he's like, that solved the problem. It's like, holy shit, that's so scary. That's so scary. So did he say anything that like the fire bug, like now he gets to sit at the lunch table or at least not be bullied at his lunch? He didn't mention what happened to the fire bug actually. Like that was kind of the end of the story.
Starting point is 03:17:41 They like transitioned to like smuggling or tattoos. There was a guard who had Who was who had a full sleeve of prison tattoos that he would like go into the cell and like a prisoner would tat him Up he'd bring him the ink. He's like here's here's some ink Here's some needles, you know hook me up like putting a full gang sleeve on the guard and how like each gang Well, he called him cars. That's what you call the different race gangs Each one will have their own guard and they don't want to share. It's like you're with us. You can't be selling smokes to them too.
Starting point is 03:18:11 You can't be bringing pills to them too. You can't be sneaking morphine out of the, you know, the, the med bay for them. You're our guy. And there'd be a little friction there. It's like, we're like, we might hurt you even though you're the guard. Like this is our house house it was real scary how much power the prisoners seemed to have where you could move somebody across the country and they'd still be getting letters to like like the guys who run the gangs the big prison gangs they're in like a federal super max or some shit somehow still running shit like writing letters and getting them out to and they're being disseminated. He's like, I'd sit there all day writing, typing copies of the letters from the big dogs to distribute down. He's like making 15 copies on like that, that contact paper or whatever.
Starting point is 03:18:55 So he's like doubling up on an old typewriter, like writing gang, not necessarily like go hurt this person, go steal this but like, like rules and regulations and ways to do things and like how the hierarchy should go And yeah, this guy's now one of us and stuff like that all kind of coded a little bit It was crazy how much power they had. It's really scary. I'm glad I didn't go to scary prison I like like it was scary enough where I went like they killed a guy like up the hill at the medium from where I was but like It seems like in the real prison people get get fucked up all the time just all the time just to hell it's like us I I don't work
Starting point is 03:19:34 I go to prison is one of my fears and I'm not sure I'm socially disciplined enough I I definitely could make it like a month I think you, without fucking up. But if I had like a year, I'd let my guard down, I know it. I'd fuck up in some way. I'd look in a cell I'm not supposed to look into. I don't know what I'd do. Make a friend with the wrong group or two groups that don't like each other
Starting point is 03:19:58 and now I'm in the middle. I'd end up making jokes in order to make friends because that's how I make friends and I'd say something I didn't like and they Clip my fucking toes off Want that I don't know, you know it the the mixing of racist things seemed real important because because like Pallowing around and like being like buddies with another race in some places. It's like whoa
Starting point is 03:20:19 What are you doing? Like we're gonna correct you and then some places it's like not even a thing like race isn't the defining Line between maybe gangs or cars or whatever like might be local like oh, yeah, we're in, North, California we're like Southern Missouri or like whatever the fuck wherever they're from or whatever but Race seems to in the bigger scarier places race seems to be king Although there will be like multiple Mexican gangs multiple Different kinds of gangs with different ideas on how hardcore to be different racist gangs or so There's like multiple white supremacist gangs in my school
Starting point is 03:20:54 I like didn't really divide by race They divided by music their musical reverence like if you like metal if you like pop if you like whatever you've had seem to be a bigger I don't know separation you what was the racial breakdown though? How many black folks were in your high school? There were some there were projects notion city that had a lot of black people in it and I'll make of a number say 10% Yeah, it was pretty it was a lot higher than that in mine in elementary school But I don't know how else to put it, but the black kids just didn't stay in school. So by the time we got to graduation, there was only two of them left.
Starting point is 03:21:30 Um, two people my age that were black graduated and there's a lot of black people here. Uh, not as much as some areas where like where I grew up, but I like 80, 90% of the black kids flunked out and didn't graduate with us at least at least cause then the two that did, one of them was a teacher's daughter, um, Ms. I was like, I'm not going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college.
Starting point is 03:21:49 I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college.
Starting point is 03:21:57 I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to college. saw he was doing poorly and was like, I have goals, you know, he's he the guy had a UGA
Starting point is 03:22:06 ring on he's like, I want one of them. I want one of them. And he's like, how do I do that? And they like the administrator like sort of took this guy under his wing and like, here's the plan. You do this every day. And then you get one of these in eight years. And like they did, you know, it was it was it. And this is the kid who was normally eating gum from under desks. Hopefully that was step one of his UGA process like step one food under desks. What do we do? We leave it? Yeah Yeah, I want to say that I didn't notice it I know that across America there is a much lower graduation rate amongst black people. I don't think I remember my high school being like that,
Starting point is 03:22:48 but I do remember the black guys celebrating the degree. Like they just won the lottery, you know, mom's crying, people jumping in the air, just so excited. Like we made it baby. Like they got a Conor McGregor fight. Like it was red panty night. Out of the bottom, now we're here. It's a deployment.
Starting point is 03:23:08 Come on now. Come on. That's like kindergarten graduation. It's like, what are we doing here? Even being in kindergarten, I'm like, I mean, did anybody not make it? Same thing. I remember my kindergarten graduation and being like,
Starting point is 03:23:24 but after this, like the school begins, like first grade, like what am I graduating from? I thought there was going to be a great during kindergarten graduation. I imagined there was going to be a graduation at the end of every year and I was already at age five, like this is going to be tedious. Like you're five and there it's like congratulations. Now do this for like triple what you've been alive. Get started. Now you have to sit here and watch boring shit and learn boring things from a disinterested teacher. One thing I remember about kindergarten is people would have birthday parties,
Starting point is 03:24:00 right? And there'd be a cake. And usually there was some like parents involved and such. And every once in a while the birthday boy or girl would be too shy and just like couldn't handle everyone looking at him, everyone like and in my kindergarten head I'm like what the fuck is wrong with her? Like what? What do you do? It's your birthday. You just sit there. This isn't hard. And then when my birthday rolled around I hid behind the piano. isn't hard. And then when my birthday rolled around, I hid behind the piano. Oh, I shouldn't have mocked them. I didn't say it. I only thought it. But yeah, I was like, oh, this is where they all were. My friend, Brandon, who always had boogers,
Starting point is 03:24:39 was behind the piano trying to talk me out. That's so funny how you remember it like that. I remember there's this kid named Dalton, and he played on my soccer team when I was like five. And my, my dad played soccer in college. And so he like would step in and like do the coaching for us at a young age sometimes. And he I just remember him being like Taylor, because Dalton didn't go to our school, but he still played on the team. He's like, Hey, go say hi to Dalton. And
Starting point is 03:25:04 like this kid was like already running up to me. And I've never seen more boogers on a face. This kid's first impression, like not a hanger, like full just boogers all over him. And to this day, when I think about that kid who I have not seen in 25 years, I'm like, oh, Dalton, the booger kid that was covered in book. I remember this one girl when I was in, and I think this is a common experience in grade school. Maybe we've even touched on it, but you would just be sitting there and I was never the, I was never this kid, but I would be, you'd be sitting there in class doing your little like multiplication tables. And then some kid two deaths away would just just like throw up all over their paper.
Starting point is 03:25:52 And I always was like, what the fuck is going on? Like, like I never once, maybe just iron stomach since I was a kid, but you could, yeah, give me, hey, give me, I'm going to drink my milk. Then I'm going to pill for a second milk. And then my buddy on Adderall, he's going to give me his'm gonna drink my milk then I'm gonna pill for a second milk and then my buddy on Adderall He's gonna give me his milk and his lunch and I'm gonna eat my lunch and his lunch and the milks I did this for years and I just sit back and The lunch stop eating it. No, it was a good it was actually a good thing He begged me to eat it and I was more than happy to apply but yeah, I never threw up
Starting point is 03:26:21 But there would be there was like one girl in class I can remember. I think Ashley was her name. Yeah, the same girl in sixth grade who I kind of winged a hockey puck at her in gym. Yeah, she just vomited all over her desk. I never think school would be different if we took the current version of you, right? Like a fully developed adult who's smart and put you in that body. Like, would you manage to get yourself into the teacher's lounge drinking coffee at five years old? I don't think they'd let me. I was, I was like a bit of a kind of a smart ass as a young kid.
Starting point is 03:26:52 And so I probably would just get more in trouble because I'd be like, I would know internally that none of this mattered that early. And so we're going to all test well enough and in a kindergarten test that they're going to get us the fuck out of that school right away You're gonna have a conversation with the teacher where they realize right away You're like an adult inside of a five-year-old and they're gonna get you out of there and send you somewhere else You know, excuse me, ma'am. I don't waste your time things maybe something a bit more advanced I was thinking and then like throw out what whatever you remember about a few advanced subjects You know like I get you right the fuck out of there
Starting point is 03:27:26 Oh, yeah Or but that's the stupid move because then they find the class that you fit in and all of a sudden you're the middle of The middle of the row again, right? They're gonna bump you up to like some college courses and you're like shit. I don't remember this Now you're learning again at a normal human rate. You don't want that maybe less than normal wouldn't you want to fake clairvoyance a little bit? Like I'd go in at like age 10 and talk to my fifth grade teacher and be like, I have a bad feeling something's going to happen in New York today. And then boom, 9-11. No, I'd solve, I think solving 9-11 would be my end goal.
Starting point is 03:27:59 If you send me back, like I've got to convince people that I either can see the future or that I have just to tell them the truth that I've lived another life and convince them of that with my predictions. Because I remember enough about the 90s that I could convince you with a little like I'd be like, there's about to be a big thing with Bill Clinton. You ever heard someone called Monica Lewinsky? No. Get ready here. Actually, I have some writings here. See if any of this pans out next month. You know, like, 97 is going to be wild, dude. You won't be calling my OJ prediction a fluke soon.
Starting point is 03:28:33 Nope. Yeah. You ever hear of something called Y2K? You will. Give it three years. Well, that's not a difficult one to predict. No, but no one... Hey, guys. You're giving this one in a billion supernatural opportunity and you blow it on predicting What to predict? No, but hey, guys, you're giving this one billion supernatural opportunity and you blow it on predicting the year. No, but no one knew about the computer vulnerability because of the
Starting point is 03:28:53 two digit six years from now. It's going to be 2030. Indeed, the real lunar genius. We'll see. Oh, wait, do you put us? It depends what we're talking about here. I was imagining putting my current brain in my childhood body. Yeah, that's going from there. Yeah, I was imagining there being some time traveling this
Starting point is 03:29:11 as well. I want to be on time. I am on TV. I think I maybe keep it to myself or just my inner family and we play the stock market. It's not hard to ride IBM until Microsoft until Cisco until Apple. That's all you need to know. Bitcoin is a good one to Bitcoin and Ethereum. You just jump on a couple of coins that go from Apple to Nvidia. Are those the only four you think you'd need? What do you only need Bitcoin?
Starting point is 03:29:35 I would IBM to the problem with Bitcoin is you don't make any money till you're in your thirties. Okay, but it's a lot of money a lot of money it's it's like Trincy you take your money, you know, you could buy early on you could buy them for fractions of a penny And then they turn into fifty sixty thousand a couple years ago and you pop out then it's it's pretty it is a lot of money I'm not denying that just I don't like the timing of it, you know, yeah the Like I wonder how many times Cisco doubled but a lot it's a lot of money, too Yeah, and you'd want a lot of money to put into the Bitcoin You don't want to be a 1 billion error like go ahead and be a hundred billionaire, right?
Starting point is 03:30:18 Yeah, anyway, and it's not hard to do you see a few thousand Bitcoin Yeah, that's I guess that's my worst investment ever woodycraft took bitcoin as payment for a while And I was so smart. I didn't play with that volatility Bitcoin bullshit. I would convert it to cash like on a nightly basis If I had those big I don't know most of our revenue did not come from bitcoin, but it's not to dwell This is where everybody did not come from Bitcoin. That's not to dwell. That's not to dwell. That's not to do that math, you know?
Starting point is 03:30:47 Like, hey, I who bought the pizza for 27 Bitcoin back in the day or whatever. Oh my gosh. I'm like that. Woo! That's devastating. You just can't dwell on that. Or the guy who lost the hard drive,
Starting point is 03:30:56 it's like, dude, either get out there and start digging in the landfill or shut up about it. But, you know, like, live the rest of your life. It's gone, gone. That $30 million is gone. Wait, it was like live the rest of your life. It's gone on that 30 million dollars is gone Wait, it was 30 million. Oh, I'm sorry 30 million dollars so far, dude His stock tomorrow Yeah, he promised he wouldn't I don't know the details of the rules around like lying on that does the SEC get you for lying How much does he disclose? details of the rules around like lying on that. Does the SEC get you for lying? Oh, tell him the truth is a problem.
Starting point is 03:31:25 How much does he disclose? Like does he have to disclose in advance before he sells? Do people know immediately if he sells or does it come out at the end of quarter? I don't know these answers. Is this for truth social? Yeah, yeah. Donald Trump media group.
Starting point is 03:31:38 So it's not like his, or I guess not, he wouldn't sell shares and, or no, shares, not an initial offering. Yeah, the initial offering was, I'll make it up wouldn't sell shares and, or no shares, not an, uh, initial offering. Yeah. The initial offering was, I'll make it up like six months ago, something like that. And on September 20th, which is tomorrow as we record this, um, he's able to sell his shares and he has about one and a half billion. It's down from 6 billion, which some people on Reddit are crowing about,
Starting point is 03:32:03 but I have a hard time like, oh, you only make one and a half billion loser. Yeah. A lot of money. Yeah, yeah. So he'll be eligible to cash out one and a half billion. It's tricky to do. As soon as he starts selling the stock tank,
Starting point is 03:32:18 and if he gets out, everyone else will get out. We'll see how it works out. But he does, in theory, have a billion and a half he's able to sell tomorrow. Wonder if he tries to remind I believe him. You think he won't sell? I don't think he'll sell. I don't think because he said he wouldn't and it's not about honesty. It's about image. He said he wouldn't so doing so would do nothing but hurt the
Starting point is 03:32:42 people who love who who like believe in him and like invest in him with actual money the most It would be a it would be folly. He wouldn't do any pre-election. Certainly that seems like a horrible That's a risk right like you'd think that he'd be hurting his most Loyal supporters if he was tell them yeah, but like he's coming out with this crypto company. He sold NFTs I But like he's coming out with this crypto company. He sold NFTs. I guess the Bibles in the shoes aren't really hurting and people are getting what they paid for. But I don't put it beyond him to fleece his most loyal supporters.
Starting point is 03:33:16 I would put it past him in the context of like him running right now. Like he wants to retain that support desperately especially from his most staunch supporters Right. So if he did do it, it would have to be after an election Maybe then that maybe not even an election win just after I Think he's gonna sell as much as he thinks he can get away with and start tomorrow I don't know it's gonna be worth a lot if he's president Maybe president what if the president doesn't use a Twitter account this time? He uses a Truth account.
Starting point is 03:33:46 So if you want to hear from the president or any, is he capable of switching the whole US government's... Actually, Twitter, we're not going to use that anymore. Sorry, Elon, we use Truth Social in the US federal government now. Yeah, I don't think that's going to happen. Why not? Everybody already has Twitter, and everybody already uses Twitter for all the news and all that every journalist has an account like Like it would
Starting point is 03:34:10 He would get infinitely more attention going back to shit posting on Twitter then like I just don't think that there's the draw there That people want from social media at truth social. I mean there's not enough I mean clearly not like like but but i think that he could he adds value to it i guess is my my my point and he adds more value if he's president like way more and he has the ability as president to do things that give it even more i suppose he could i mean i don't know he could have the state of the union live streamed on truth social only you know like imagine that all the news works are like we're picking up the stream from truth social right now we're going to
Starting point is 03:34:50 carry that live here on abc um here we go it's like all it's like it's all artifacting pixelated shit yeah i mean like truth social i would imagine is like most of the accounts on there have to be people who were like what's all the hubbub here make an account real quick Yeah. I mean like truth social, I would imagine is like most of the accounts on there have to be people who were like, what's all the hubbub here? Make an account real quick. And then they're like, well, there's really not a lot going on. Okay. Well back to my other social media sites. Like, and then they still have an account. They're registered, but they're not doing anything. They're not active.
Starting point is 03:35:23 It's wildly easy to trend on there. Like 300 likes and you're on the front page of truth social. Yeah. And it's just, it's, it's a replacement for a service that exists already. And everyone has an account on the other service. Like you're just never going to force a mass exodus from that. Yeah. And advertisers are scared to show up on it. Oh, I heard a little there was a new story today about 9-eleven Okay, you know, I know you like the conspiracy theory that we shot down flight 93. I think it was over, Pennsylvania
Starting point is 03:35:55 I don't think that's the case or the story that's come out as I don't think that's fabricated But there were two there were two fighter planes scrambled that day to go after that flight But there wasn't enough time to get missiles on them So both the pilots went up with the intention of ramming the plane and it was a woman and a man the lady's name's penny She's very pretty. I'm like a convenient excuse for why they came back with no missiles. Yeah, it's not cuz we used them Yeah, you know we left with no missiles and we came back with the missiles They didn't spider planes do if need be we would ram it. That's that's our catch them in time They couldn't put the missiles all the planes with missiles were doing drills
Starting point is 03:36:37 Today DC, you know when you when you rally planes to intercept a potential terrorist attack Sometimes you don't take the time to put missiles on the plane. Say you just go up there to sightsee. I'm glad they fired that guy, the Pentagon, who tried to implement the 364 day security. That's clearly what happened. They were just so tight and ready for it those other days. And then, wouldn't you know it? I bought. Rogan's back to not believing the moon landing is true. I think I'm outstupid. Is he? Are you sure he is? Yeah.
Starting point is 03:37:15 Fuck. When did he say? What did he say? This week. He said that he used to believe in the moon landing, but now he doesn't. All right. Now. Wait, so he's, are you, so, so what I've seen him do is, so I've seen him say before, I used to not believe in the moon landing, but now I do, I'm not mistaken. So he's gone back again. He's flopped. He flopped. Well, I a hundred percent believe in the moon landing.
Starting point is 03:37:41 Um, like, like I, when, um, I think it's Who is it grumman? I think grumman built the limb the the thing that went down to the surface and landed and then took off again Or at least the top of it took off with the people in it They filmed everything they did like it was a multi-billion dollar process over the course of seven years of rocket scientists Like they start a cardboard, you know, I mean like they had to figure out what size you know figure out the windows and stuff I'm not saying it wasn't a complex hoax Now that we landed on the moon and it's fucking cool that we did it and I don't like it when people try to tear That down because I think it's one of the greatest accomplishments in human history and we did it
Starting point is 03:38:19 We had some Nazis along the way, but but it was American fucking asses and seats Fucking flying doing when I see them go outside that space capsule for some reason now. I think i'm Have more of a grasp on what space in the vacuum space is and how? Unrecoverable you are if like you just were to hop, you know, you open the space door and then you jump They'll never get you you're gone You're gone like you might as well have fallen into a bottomless pit going over there and getting something and coming back It's not in the plan. Everything is like Everything's coasting using gravity assist and stuff like that. We don't we can't go get you There's no space golf cart where you can run over there grab them and bring them back
Starting point is 03:38:58 No They got those jet packs now when they do when they go out and they work on stuff and One of the scariest photos ever is the dude testing the jet pack for the first time he hops out of the spaceship and he flies out over there by himself into the bed right no it was needlessly like done then like just have a tether test it out i think the rocket scientists at nasa were playing it safe i think they were testing their jet pack and they a tetherether might wasn't it was not in the cards
Starting point is 03:39:27 He flew out there and they took a picture of him in the black is a very different definitions of playing it safe Yeah, wouldn't the tether make it much safer? You Know Kyle it's your job to defend the lack of tether What what I fall back to isn't any technical expertise or experience. It's my respect for the decision making of NASA when it comes to safety protocol and doing something a certain way because I've seen enough of how they operate that I just don't oh my god he just flew over there into the nothingness. Yeah how much would the tether hurt?
Starting point is 03:40:02 I just broke out a little bit of a sweat like that's just that's so scary. That's so scary. I think what would happen. I don't think he would drift into space I think he'd eventually reenter He'd be dead regardless though. Oh, yeah, we're on the same page there, but I'm just thinking about what happens to him He probably runs out of air and then reent his body. If I were the NASA engineer, I would be like, hey guys, I know we think the photo ops gonna be sick without the tether, but we spent $11 billion training this one individual astronaut.
Starting point is 03:40:34 And if we lose them, it's a catastrophe. So can we use maybe some clear filament, something that's not good, that's still gonna look good. Can we only meet- Hollywood Photoshop the tethers out all the time. Yes, exactly. Can we at least Photoshop the tether out but have it so if it goes bad We just don't show that video we wait till we get a good one I've also been watching this podcast and the guys interviewing a Delta Force commando
Starting point is 03:40:56 which is like the highest upper echelon of killers that we send out in black helicopters to kill people and he says when they were in Syria and Afghanistan places, they would go out multiple times a night and go into houses and take out bad guys like all night. He's like if we didn't kill somebody, he felt like you hadn't accomplished anything that night. We kill so many people and they're going in with rifles and shooting people. So it's crazy. They were going after they had killed all the leadership in Syria and Like they were bringing in the grand poobah to a suck to make people the new leaders
Starting point is 03:41:30 And so they're trying to get these guys and they got there too late and everybody's already dispersed So they start chasing this group and he's got two or three more Delta Force guys with him He's got three Afghans with him with shitty night vision. He's got the good shit and overhead they've got thermal viewing from drones and AC 130 or something that can see as good as daylight and they're directing them toward the enemy. And so they're after this three or four guys that's hiding in an orchard. And so he tells his buddies, I'm going to sneak up to that little knee high wall that they're near, cook a grenade for two or three seconds, lob it over when it pops, I'm going to stand up to that little knee-high wall that they're near, cook a grenade for two or three seconds, lob it over, when it pops I'm gonna stand up and kill them all and they're like that would be awesome and he's like yeah I know he's like so I'm crawling out there and all I'm thinking is
Starting point is 03:42:17 when we get back home tonight this is gonna be a fucking story I'm gonna have everybody spellbound when I tell them about this Hollywood shit I pulled. It's all the way to the wall It's a grenade out That goes to take the pin out and he hears One of his afghans tripped over a muddy Mudhole fell on the ground so loud it knocked the wind out of him and it's dead pitch-black night And so the bad guys hear it and all five of them start machine gunning into the darkness Right over our guys head and he's laying on the ground looking straight up at a barrel and it's and the overpressure is
Starting point is 03:42:52 Like hitting his head with pressure and he's like this isn't how I thought this was gonna go So he lays there until they run away and then he throws the grenade and like Anger he's like it was nowhere near i. And, uh, and so then they, then they could begin stalking these guys, chasing them like a kilometer through the night and they lose their overhead guidance. The guy can't, the guys can't see him anymore. Or he had to go away or something and stay aloft. So he's still after them. And these guys had pulled a Sam and Frodo.
Starting point is 03:43:24 They had pulled their cloaks over them and hidden in a ravine amongst tiny boulders. Like imagine boulders like just enough for a person to crouch behind. And they blend in down there. And so our commando flips up his nods and hits him with a white light. It's bright flashlight down there. And they just a bit, he goes, you know, just on and then off to sort of see with his real eyes what he's seeing he's like and I turned back I turned the light on I saw what was there turned my buddy I said they're not there but my brain was processing like what I had seen because they had
Starting point is 03:43:59 gotten a flash and it was in my brain says they are there you did see you light back on boom boom boom boom boom kill the first guy boom boom boom boom boom kill the second guy all the while all four of them are drawing their AKs from their hips and pointing in slow motion boom boom boom boom boom kill the third guy and the fourth guy goes got got got got got got and and shoots him in the arm and cuts his arm almost in half through both bones. His his right arm is now crippled, completely not working. He falls to the ground. Grenade falls next to him.
Starting point is 03:44:32 It goes off, covers him in shrapnel from his knee to his to his arm again. He's all fucked up. And he's like, and I'm just thinking, I got the first three, what the hell's everybody else doing? The fuck are they doing? Eventually, I got the first three. What the hell's everybody else doing? The fuck are they doing? Well, eventually they kill the fourth guy. He's like a few months and they get him at they they're getting him out of there. His buddy's also been shot and they've gotten fitting all lollipops.
Starting point is 03:44:55 That's what they give these special forces guys. He's like, and I'm three lollipops in and I'm looking at Roger and I'm just in excruciating pain because I'm walking because one of the bullets hit his night vision in the middle and cut It in half and the two pieces fall side-by-side So now he's blind in the dark walking back to the evac Tripping and falling over his wounds into dirty shit and mud because they're in a field night vision all stop an AK bullet Didn't stop the bullet the bullet went through the night vision goggles and cut them in half and they fell either way He's also wearing a helmet on top Trajectory the bullet didn't carry the bullet the bullet went through the night vision goggles and cut them in half and they fell either way He's also wearing a helmet on top
Starting point is 03:45:25 Trajectory the bullet didn't carry the bullet into his helmet. So anyway, he he's like hey, how you doing Roger? How's that lollipops? I'm actually good. Could I have your lollipop Roger? Roger gave me the fourth lollipop and I ate that one too and it didn't really help. He's like finally gets to the hospital This is months later. Now, you know, he's in Afghan hospital He's like, his Afghan buddies show up. He's like, hey, did you see the men that I was shooting? They said, oh yeah, oh yeah. Did you see me shooting them? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why didn't you help? And he just said, we thought you had it. They didn't want to ruin it. Yeah, they almost had a counter-UIV. They didn't want to really almost had a counter uav they didn't want to ruin it It's what the afghani was thinking like he didn't want to fuck up his kill street. Yeah, you guys stories
Starting point is 03:46:14 He's this weird guy like fucked up like messed up arm He came back He did he talked about the physical therapy to come back and how he would cry every day because this woman was putting him through Such torture. He's like every day I cry she'd break me down to tears every day from the pain and and never show a bit of like sympathy For me, but I was back on the you know, Delta Force team swinging into houses and killing How old is he a few months later now? He looks like 40 42 like he he had so many concussions that he started getting some serious neurological Stuff memory loss like he they're all dressed driving to church him and his family and he drives past
Starting point is 03:46:48 the turn and his wife's like, where are you going? And he's just like, well, I can see we're dressed for church. So I would imagine that's where we were going. But I don't know where we are. You know, like stuff like that would happen. So he had to retire. Yeah, lots of explosions, lots of close close danger danger close explosions over that whole career those guys are crazy though when he talks about like
Starting point is 03:47:09 He's killed so many people. It's just some army guys like yeah There's that one firefight, but this guy would go every night into houses and kill those people with his team So like when he talks about killing people with an mp5 versus killing people than ar-15 or something It's like he knows, you know, it's, I wonder how they process it. Like, is it hard for them at all? He said he doesn't have any PTSD. He's like, he talks about the evil of ISIS about them burning the Jordanian pilot alive in that cage about them cutting Americans heads off with knives.
Starting point is 03:47:39 It's like, these were the guys we were getting. They talked about human trafficking, children, um, training, uh, the chill, the, the boys by murdering prisoners. We would see all that, he says, and so it would be personal. We knew that the guy we were going to get, they would study this guy and it would become personal. So that it's not just Target 3, it's Muhammad, Shaq, Shithead, who cut off this guy's face on this video and send death to America Here he is in a video doing it. This is his brother
Starting point is 03:48:11 Derek He's actually cool, but we he's actually pretty cool really in the baseball He says politics is not for him He was he loved killing these people He's like I loved killing them He's like if I didn't kill some I felt bad. He's like ever I knew every one of them I killed it was a good thing. He called him He said it was like killing dogs and the guy was like, well, I like dogs. Let's let's say rats He's like, yep. Yep
Starting point is 03:48:40 When you rat you rat two-legged rats When you're at your rat two-legged rats But that guy was hard fucking core that was a cool podcast I like that stuff I like those hearing Hearing what they did because it wasn't on the news, you know, you just hear you wouldn't really you knew stuff was happening But he made it sound like they were 50 or a hundred of these Delta Force guys operating and they were Impacting the war in a dramatic kind of way because every night they kill important people and a lot of them. My friend has military experience. He's not Delta Force or anything. He was in Iraq and his stories don't go like that. It was more like
Starting point is 03:49:19 yeah, I got kills but like they were the same as me you know I wasn't particularly mad and Iraqi soldiers he was just in the army like I was on the other side and like it so he struggled more to process the thoughts that that guy was his parallel neither one of them was more right or more wrong and in the other ones operating on behalf of Saddam and ones out operating on behalf of W But where's right and wrong really fallen that it was more complicated for him Yeah, the Iraqi army certainly was not evil in any kind of way. They were just doing their jobs as soldiers Wearing them wearing a uniform and showing up and following orders. So I definitely understand that I would feel bad about that
Starting point is 03:50:04 If I had fought a real army that's the truth it's like they're just us they're just like us there's no evil in that guy's heart like like his leader might be evil and like the cause in the end might be but he's just a peon he's just a gear in the big machine unlike w who's wonderful well I mean say what you want about w guy I don't think he's a bad, I mean say what you want about that guy I don't think he's a bad guy. I don't think W is a bad guy. I do I think he's a I think he's an incompetent who found himself Way over his head with a vice president with way too much power and once they were in the shit They were in it and he just kept sucking him in there You know was one of those I don't have ever been in mud and your boots came off in the mud from the suction
Starting point is 03:50:43 But that's what that's how that's what I think of George W. He's a duck hunter stuck in the mud Now it's like calculating move it's charitable like I might be right you think evil You're definitely possibly right like, you know, he just Shit, you know when I first got there Cheney was so much more experienced in Washington affairs compared to me and before I know it like we're in Iraq and you know I spent the next seven years regretting not leading myself. Maybe, maybe that's a viable way it could have gone down or it could have been you know I let everyone think Cheney was running the show. I was I'm not'm not stupid. You know, Janie looked 15 years older than me, but he's what? Two years older than W like is he something that's crazy. Is he still not someone fact check?
Starting point is 03:51:33 It's going to be like two years, four years, something like that. He did endorse Kamala. Yeah. He's alive. He's 83. Who is good for him. Dick Dick Cheney. How old is W? I'm going to call 79. For him dick dick Cheney how old is w i'm gonna call 79 George w is 78 Okay, oh, there you go. Yeah, not too much older Yeah, especially not when you're both that age when because yeah w was probably 45 and he was 50 their peers
Starting point is 03:52:00 Yeah, sure. So, you know the idea that not mentally though Who knows I don't know. I know I will W had a soft seat or we got eight years of proof like Jake Cheney was I also look back to like what they were doing before this and I it's like I was governor, Texas Yeah, I want a baseball team The other guys like I was controlling the wheels of commerce The other guy's like I was controlling the wheels of commerce Even staff was changing for staff. Maybe I just think it was Halliburton stuff and all the stuff he did and like the business Where is the this is? Secretary he was yeah VP before that Secretary of Defense before that house minority whip Then chair of the House Republican Conference and then just the lower
Starting point is 03:52:44 I guess he was the seventh White House chief of staff in the 70s under Gerald Ford. Holy shit Yeah, see that guy is old soo around Washington forever. Yeah. Yeah, what a ghoul that guy is. I don't know Maybe maybe so maybe so I don't know. I usually try to give our leadership the benefit of the doubt You know think that I like to always think that maybe they just know so much more than we do that if we knew what? They knew it would make sense or if we had the binary decisions that they do it would make sense You know, it's like yeah, we could not do that. Here's what would happen. Oh, well, don't do that dollar gasoline Send them in on the ground
Starting point is 03:53:26 don't do that. $12 gasoline. Send them in. I'm the ground. I felt that in the corporate world before like, oh man, my boss is making the dumbest decisions. And then when you get a little exposure to what his boss's priorities are, and what his boss's boss's priorities are, you're like, I see this is all in support of some strategy three levels over. Now it makes more sense. And you talk about the US government, well, shit, we're not three levels away. I'm so many hundreds of levels over. Now it makes more sense. And you talk about the US government, well, shit, we're not three levels away. I'm so many hundreds of levels away. I don't know anything. Yeah. I saw Edward Snowden shitting on the Lebanon thing that Israel did with the Pagers.
Starting point is 03:53:56 He did not like that. And I do think it is a scary next step in sort of warfare and how warfare can be conducted. I like to imagine that our supply chain here is Safeguarded against such things that there would be some sort of it is not because I don't well. Well, hang on what I mean by that is And we're going to find out what the supply chain was with these font with these pagers and radios Um where they originated whose hands they passed through And and I think that's really important because if they went through, if they were flown there
Starting point is 03:54:31 through the global flying system that's supposed to detect things like this, if they made it through X-rays and they made it through bomb-snipping dogs and stuff like that, that's scary. But I don't think they did. I think there was some James Bond stuff where not a jet boat
Starting point is 03:54:46 Not a underwater breathing apparatus that fits in a pen not a watch that shoots lasers But some like sneaky people pretending to be other sneaky people saying yeah the shipments here It'll be in Cairo on the fifth you need to talk to the dock master wise man once told me who's checking the mail I'll tell you who's checking the fucking mail Bitches a rat Mailman slacken No, the reason I said our supply chain is not secure with such confidence is I like the story I told him, Cisco routers, I said this on PKN were intercepted.
Starting point is 03:55:29 And then somebody modified the routers to become basically tools for spies and then sent them wherever they were going. It might've been China. And Cisco's like, look, we had nothing to do with this. And like it is not even in our business interest for someone to question like that we would do this. So we wouldn't. Yeah. Thank you. Integrity. Yeah. And, uh, and I believe it to the core. I don't think. There's also like, if you, if you know, like about, uh, just consumer goods to go that low and granular with it,
Starting point is 03:55:57 like the ones that are made in China, like if you talk to people in that industry, like it's not uncommon for large firms who have a lot of stuff made in China to schedule visits, to go to the actual manufacturing plants in China. I've talked to these guys and they'll be like, yeah, if you tell them exactly the day that you're going to show up, it'll be like when Xi Jinping showed up in San Francisco. It's like, where's the homeless? Where's the shit on the it's, you know, perfectly clean, perfectly fine. Like the Chinese factories like that. And then you ask him, like, well, what's it like if you just make an unannounced
Starting point is 03:56:33 stop where, you know, you're going to go do a surprise inspection of your manufacturing facilities? He's like, oh, it's it's a world away. You know, those guys who were standing, like checking the quality of every item, they're not there anymore. The guy who was like dutifully sweeping, he's not there anymore. Like it's night and day. I don't know if you have this experience Taylor,
Starting point is 03:56:50 but when like corporate heads came to visit, people would shape up. We clean our desks, but we'd all be like, you know, all of them. And I used to make fun of people who did that by replacing the pictures of my family with the pictures of the visiting. With his family. That's so funny. So I like to look to you when I'm feeling like I can't get through the day.
Starting point is 03:57:15 I looked at you, your face, your strong girl. I was such an asshole. I look at your wife and her bikini vacation pictures that you so foolishly posted to social media. Mine looked like a 1970s den. I had my own carpet in there, an ottoman. I put a couch in there and paintings and shit. That's a very funny bit.
Starting point is 03:57:37 Just put pictures of your boss's kids and then just play it off. Oh no, I like to know what I'm working towards. Someday I'll have a beautiful home for my family. I don't know. I like to know what I'm working towards I saw Apparently we knew that China had like a population problem Because the aging thing and it was caused by the one one child plan that they had back in the day also a huge proliferation in abortion and and the use of Contraception you can see I saw like a whole documentary about this today. Apparently, there's a secondary issue that's compounding
Starting point is 03:58:09 in that something about the way they took their censuses was very corrupt and you'd have regional leaders who would lie about how many people there were because you get more funding obviously and nobody was coming to check. So they would inflate the numbers. And you would also have that situation where you keep cashing grandpa's check
Starting point is 03:58:24 after he passes away. And you would also have, situation where you keep cashing grandpa's check after he passes away And you would also have and so the end result is there are 100 million fewer Chinese than China thought there were So the Chinese real estate market is crashing I I you've probably seen those videos of them destroying. I saw a video of them destroying 35 100 story apartment buildings and the idea was these were for the next generation of Chinese who were about to like go out and get apartments, but they don't exist. And also the buildings were not built very well. They just, I don't know, they look fine.
Starting point is 03:58:57 If you fill them in, it's like a gigantic construction yard though. Um, that's fascinating to me. The one child policy backfiring so much. And it was interesting, they hired this, I can't remember the leader of China at the time, but he employed this rocket scientist they had who was apparently a genius. He could figure out anything. But he really should have stuck to rocket science. And they asked him to graph their population growth.
Starting point is 03:59:23 They're like, hey, there's a billion of us. We wanna make sure that we don't all starve. We wanna make sure that we're a strong nation at the same time. Could you plot out our population growth over the next 100 years? And he did. And he told them that by the year 2100,
Starting point is 03:59:37 there would be 4 billion Chinese. And they were like, oh shit, oh shit, that doesn't work. And so then they institute the one child policy No one was smart enough to see through that sort of extrapolation That's the kind of shit where it's like man I saw one red car on my way to the grocery store today yesterday and I saw two red cars on the way to the grocery Store today in a year all 35 Trillion red cars so they did two things at the time the average woman was having six children
Starting point is 04:00:03 so the math checked out if you don't factor in some, if you keep it linear, it factors out and you don't equate for some other variables. So it was going, seeing that they institute the one child policy, they pay people for not having kids, they punish people for having kids. And you also end up with a scenario where because you could only have one kid via abortion or absolute infanticide, they would kill the female Chinese babies. I remember being told that as a young child that they drowned the little girls. And they did. And so now you have this generation of bachelors. You know, you've got all these Chinese dudes who are millennials who
Starting point is 04:00:49 can't get a lady because they don't exist because there aren't enough of them that's a shitty situation such a grand scale you know it's not like i don't know astonia had some weird policy then now there's not enough estonians it's the most populous well it's the most populous country in the world china isn't a tough spot and a lot of other countries are getting good at what they were good at you know foxconn is leaving Apple, they used to make all the iPhones. And I saw something today, a video where basically a town had shut down. They were showing the stats on what it took to support the employees at this place. There were so many. It was like 280 pigs, tons and tons of rice, something like 4,000 chickens, like an immense amount of food would just go in there every day to serve these guys their meals. And it's all empty
Starting point is 04:01:34 now, gone. And there's like hotel, they look like hotels, they're apartment buildings that reach into the sky, completely empty. It is wild. It's just a shut down factory and everyone in this city work there. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out. They called that generation, it's a real real issue. They called that generation of only children little emperors because traditionally there'd be again five to six mouths you know searching for the teat and now you had one kid absorbing the whole family's attention and praise and and their you know outlook for the future They call those the little emperor generation. Well now the little emperors are having kids They want their kids to be little emperors. You can't convince them to go back to the old way of cramming six kids in an apartment
Starting point is 04:02:20 You know, yeah, it's uh, it's not good Yeah, that's pretty for them. Yeah, fertility rates seem to drop as countries do better. Like, I don't know why it is that the poor countries have six kids. They send their families at one. It's because they send their girls to school and they let them use contraception. That's what happens when you're rich and prosperous. Your women go to school and they're given contraception.
Starting point is 04:02:43 And now they don't have babies because they know better And they know how to fix the problem Okay. Yeah, I won't argue. I don't want to look if kids came out of my butt. I would not want to have six Painful it is to be sick. I think you were talking about yeah, and all I thought I My wife a long time ago was, if people remembered how bad childbirth was, no one would have two kids. There's a lot of like, your brain is, their brains are releasing a lot of drugs to convince them that that was a good decision and that it would be a good idea to do it again.
Starting point is 04:03:19 Imagine if you had to pass a grape through your cock and that was going to be the egg that grew into your baby. That's how we reproduce. It's like hyenas basically. Yeah, like well you'd need an insane amount of endorphins In order to drive that you need a fat cock or a c-section. Yeah, great fruits too much. I just couldn't do that That's probably the like race. I don't know what the ratio is I don't know how big the average lady pussy is it gets pretty pretty big when you know business time's afoot. God damn right it does. Well anyway. That was a wonderful conversation. I thought yeah yeah
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