Pardon My Take - 7X Gold Medalist Caeleb Dressel, PacMan Jones & Bobby Laing, Mt Rushmore Of RomComs

Episode Date: August 27, 2021

Free form Friday. We talk Urban Meyer, Teddy Bridgewater and take Jake’s stress test (00:02:49 - 00:29:53). 7X Gold Medalist Caeleb Dressel joins the show to talk about swimming, water being blue, how long he can hold his breath and lots more (00:29:53 - 01:02:25). Former NFL player Pacman Jones joins the show to talk about his Rough and Rowdy fight vs Bobby Laing as Bobby hops on as well (01:02:25 - 01:19:33). Mt Rushmore of Romcoms and Fyre fest of the weekYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Yeah, kind of a, kind of a, is the, if the sun is hot, why is space cold? I think he's still thinking about it, too. Yeah, I am. I know I am. So, great interview with him. And then we have Pac-Man Jones, and special guest Bobby Lang, getting ready for Ruff and Rowdy 15, which is tonight. So go buyRNR.com.

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So let's get it started. Freeform. If the water is clear. Oh, yeah, we're gonna get to that one. Freeform, I think the Jaguars already hate Urban Meyer. I think that Trevor Lawrence hates Urban Meyer, because you know what Urban Meyer is doing. He's doing the old Mike Marks offense. I'm not gonna leave anybody in there to protect you.

And Urban Meyer is already thinking about shopping for house and South Bend. We're gonna get our guy Pete Prisco on in a week or so to preview some of the NFL stuff. We also have Warren Sharp as well. But he had a report, or I don't know if it was an article, but he said that Pete Prisco is an article. He said, I've heard some of the players aren't thrilled with him either, including having a microphone on the field. One of his assistants on the field during practice with a boom mic telling everybody to hydrate and hustle and get to the next period. Listen, we kind of alluded to this when Urban Meyer got hired. But a professional athlete who's getting paid millions of dollars getting yelled at to hydrate and hustle.

I just feel like there's a better way. Well, so Urban Meyer, you remember taking the tour of the Ohio State facility. Yep. And he actually thinks that he is in the military. Correct. Urban Meyer is cosplaying as a military guy. He's cosplaying as Billy. As Billy.

He wishes he was Billy. He has like a poster. No, not even a poster. The walls are painted in the weightlifting facility that just says train like a United States soldier. Yes. And so he's like, he's bringing that mentality. I don't think it's going to work. I think that he's going to be out of the league.

This is right now a clip that we're saying that is absolutely going to be used against us in like two years. That's okay. No, you know what? I've said it when he got hired. I don't think it's going to work. Hot takes. Oh, Teddy Bridgewater. Yes.

So wait. I mean, you're going to say it that way. Teddy Bridgewater. I love Teddy. Good for Teddy. You're not going to introduce it as the end of the era. No, big cat. Here is here is the main takeaway from Teddy Bridgewater being named the starting quarterback of the Denver Broncos.

He is 23 and eight against the spread in his last 31 starts as an underdog. Yes. So remember that. I'm not going to ask Jake to set any reminders. Jake, I know that your calendar is probably pretty full. Maybe this can go on Billy's public reminder for everybody to partake in. Which he didn't make. Which he is in the process of making.

I'm sure when Teddy Bridgewater is an underdog bet on Teddy Bridgewater. What do we say about though, the end of the Drew Lock era? It was a fun era. Minor setback for a major comeback. He's still got the swag. Listen, do you think that he would have been benched earlier if he didn't do the dancing thing? Probably. Yeah.

I mean, that went a long way towards marketing him. Also, if he didn't have that one awesome incompletion in practice that Vaughn Miller told us about. Yep. That's the sort of thing that will keep you around for a little bit longer. John Elway just can't find. I saw the stat. It was 11 starting quarterbacks since Peyton Manning. Now, obviously one of them is whoever they started that guy off the street.

Like the seventh wide receiver last year. The practice squad wide receiver. Yeah. It was great. His name is escaping me. So that doesn't really count. But 11 quarterbacks. I mean, come on.

John Elway. You want to see how many of them we can name? Okay. Trevor Simeon. Brock Osweiler. Wait, wait. Get the list. Get the list.

All right. All right. Okay. Trevor. Wait. Brock. Brock. Trevor.

Drew. I think I don't know if Teddy Bridgewater would be this. Yeah. That would be the 11th probably. Probably the 11th. Wow. Just a lot of empty space. Wow.

Oh, oh. Case Keenum. Case Keenum. Oh, yeah. That's right. He was the fix for a while. He actually started all 16 games in 2018. Yeah.

He was the big fix. Whew. Yeah. I don't know. This is bad. Hold on. We got to have at least one other. Blake didn't start, right?

No. They're too much of a coward to let him play. Because the one night he'll be like, oh, I should have known that. It would have been solved if it was him, sir. Simeon's Northwestern, right? Yep. Trevor Simeon. Fuck.

This is going to fuck me up. Oh, Paxton Lynch. Yes. I fucking hate that guy. Nice guy. Because he's now completely out of the league. That's one of those first round picks that doesn't get mentioned enough. I think he got signed somewhere.

Maybe. Yeah. He's with somebody. Why can't Josh Rose work out there? Yeah. This is Scott's one Rough Riders. Oh, nice. There you go.

Paxton, way to keep it going, even though you cost him all that money in that bowl game. All right. Give us a rest. Flacco started eight games in 2019. Flacco. Brandon Allen, three games in 2019. And then this past year, Jeff Driscoll, Brett Rippin.

And then it says Phillip Lindsey, one game. But I don't know if that was something. No, I don't think so. This is Wikipedia. That might have been the start. That might have been the guy who started. Yeah, we should have gotten Jeff Driscoll. Yeah.

Because he is Blake Bortles' enemy. Yep. And obviously, Joe Flacco was a big miss. Yeah, that was a big miss. That's okay, though. That rocket arm was just never meant to be in that altitude. Yeah. Kyle Orton.

Kyle Orton. No. But either way, that's, yeah, Teddy Bridgewater. I actually, I think not just because of the stat you just said about Teddy Bridgewater being an underdog, but like this team, the Broncos this year will be a bet on team for me because Teddy Bridgewater is perfect for Vic Fangio's defense, like a quarterback that's not going to make mistakes, not going to lose you the game, let the defense win you the game.

I feel like they'll be frisky. I think that if I look at a stat line after the game and it says 148 yards, one touchdown, zero interceptions. Let's see. No, let me take it back. 148 yards, zero touchdown, zero interceptions. That is a Teddy Bridgewater stat line. 14 for 20.

Yep, that's a Teddy Bridgewater stat line. He's a perfectly fine quarterback. No, I like Teddy. He's a nice guy. Everywhere he's gone, everyone's loved him. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, that is, oh, Little League World Series going on. Who's still in it?

Hawaii? I watched the Hawaii game last night. Hawaii. Bum me out so bad to have that pitcher. Oh, that pitcher from North Dakota, South Dakota. South Dakota, Gavin Weir. Incredible. They call him mini Chris Sale.

He's given up one hit, I think, or no, one run in like the entire summer. Four no hitters, right? Four no hitters. Incredible, incredible. I love like a dominant pitcher. That's what you kind of remember from Little League World Series, but I got Kyle Carter-esque. Yeah, Daniel Monte. I got super bummed out.

Monet Davis. Oh, yep. Monet Davis. One-on-one. Scrub. Team didn't even win. Didn't even win. Don't even get to Big Al.

Oh, yeah, Big Al didn't even make it to Williamsport. He likes to hit dingers, though. The stat that they showed the kid was like favorite actor Dwayne Johnson, and I just got so sad. I was like, wow, so he does. No idea about the people's elbow. He has no idea what, you know, smell what the rock's cooking. Who calls him Dwayne Johnson? I didn't know the rock is a recipe.

All right. That, it was a total bummer of a night between that and Laura Rutledge posting Paul Finebombs TikTok, and I was about to roast it. And then I had the realization, credit to me for having a little self-awareness, that Billy comes up to us like four times a week, and it's like, here, say a Pokemon guy, and then scream. And then it just goes out on the internet, and I never see it again. I have no idea what it is.

You know what would actually be a- Go follow our TikTok. Go follow our TikTok. You know what would be a much better TikTok account than whatever they're trying to do with Paul Finebombs, is just have somebody follow around the TikTok person for Paul Finebombs, and then videotape them while the TikTok person is explaining what dance to do, and just watch Paul Finebombs' brain start to bubble out of the top of his head trying to figure out what's going on. Yes.

I want to see the behind-the-scenes of that stuff. Yes. But that picture in the Little League World, what's his name? Gavin Weir. Gavin Weir. Gavin Weir. What I like about him is he throws junk. Yeah.

He's not like- It's bad for your elbow. Yeah. But guess what? Legends live forever. That's loser talk. That's loser talk right there. Dude, my dad wouldn't let me throw it off until I was 13.

No offense. I mean, that's why I'm just jealous. You would have been in the big leagues. Listen, he's from South Dakota. If he wins the Little League World Series, he's a legend forever. Yeah. That's true. They're up there when they're like 13 years old, and they're the ones that grow before

everybody. They're almost six feet tall. They can throw 72 miles an hour, which is the equivalent. I always love the equivalent where it says, like, this is like trying to hit 115 mile an hour fastball. I take it to the moon. Yeah. Listen, do you just get contact on that?

Yeah. You let the pitch work for you. I would love. You don't have to swing hard. I'd love to fucking just jack home runs off these little kids. But this guy- It's like a dream of mine. This guy throws.

I don't know about that. You think Gavin Weir could strike me out? Yes. Well, you could strike me out, but you don't think I'd hit one out of the park? On a little league diamond. No. It's like 200 feet. Hank, it's so much easier on a little league diamond.

Dude, that's gas. It's a pop-up. Yeah. For me. You just make contact and the ball's going. Reach out. I think that would be a good video. It would be a hilarious video.

I don't. That kid throwing 72 miles an hour. It has to be a 12-year-old. Well, here's the problem. Yeah. Or 13. I think that Gavin Weir would strike us all out because he throws that hook. He's got the 12 to 6 curveball.

But if you go up against one of the guys that's throwing 70 miles an hour, I would absolutely be able to take a lefty. I could go yard off a lefty that's throwing 70 miles an hour. What is it? So what's it adjusted? 115 or something? Something like that. 190, whatever.

They don't really know. 225. All right. 100 coming in, 100 going out. 105 going out. Exit Velo. Mm-hmm. The spinner would be a great video.

The spinner would be a great video. It was non-existent. Yeah. On those fast balls. It would be a great video. No movement. I also loved a little. Just to shout out all the kids.

Every little league team has that one kid who hasn't grown yet and he's just like the little spark plug. Second baseman. Second baseman or catcher sometimes. It's just always funny to see that kid. They also showed the clip of the kids in the outfield watching and it showed them hanging out and just showing each other the video of a hot girl on their phone. Yes.

That was as pure as it gets. It was. It was. But I think that that needed to be left off the broadcast. Oh. Why? Because that's just guys' time. That's guys being dudes.

You don't need. That's personal time. That's team building and bonding for these kids. So it's all about. Hank, would you have fucked her? No comment. I don't know. Okay.

She was probably like 13. No. No, no, no. She was an adult. She was an adult. That was a very grown woman. She looked like she was great at whatever job she chose to do. It was a very grown woman.

I have an all time guess what team this guy's on now. Oh, okay. You guys might know it, but I completely spaced on this. Okay. Deshawn Jackson. Oh. Oh. Yeah.

I mean he was on the Eagles, but he got hurt. Yep. That's obviously on the box a couple years ago. I feel like I know this. God damn it. He's on the football team for a while. Pinch Jake, Jake Rudin's nipple. Oh, this is going to drive me nuts.

I think I researched it the other day. What is it? Did you? I think. I don't remember. Is it the Rams? Yeah, he's on the Rams. Wow.

I didn't know that. Fucking crammed up. I did not know that. That's crazy. Yeah. Just an update. So to refresh your memory, Emmanuel Sanders, a bill. Corey Davis, a jet.

But do you pre-attighten? Like do you pre-attighten? Nelson Aguilores on the Patriots. Yeah. According to Madden. You know he is. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. I buy it. And then, of course, the Sean Jackson is a Ram. Something to keep updated on. That is good. That's a good update. Where's Sammy Watkins? Oh, I just saw this today.

Sammy Watkins is a panther. Wow. Raven. Raven. Raven. Wow. Okay. That one would have shocked me week one.

Thank God we've gotten up to speed. That's a classic Raven signing too because for the last 30 years it feels like the Ravens are like, you just need to get a true wide receiver one for the quarterback and then the Ravens are going to be a great team. I'll make a list for you guys. And then Sammy Watkins is their true wide receiver one that they've signed. Yeah. For a while it was.

What was it? Well, Hollywood Brown is good. But yeah. Tori Smith. Yeah. Yeah. True wide receiver one. That's all it takes for the Ravens to be pushed over the top.

That was a good one. That's it. I did not know that Sean Jackson was on the Rams. I actually was thinking about this today because Matt Stafford's getting all the love. You know, I'm on the record saying Matt Stafford's a Hall of Famer. What if he stinks? Yeah. Because like everyone is expecting him to take this next step, you know, like he's finally

with a franchise that can support him and he's got Sean McVeigh and the defense. But like, what if he just isn't good? Yeah. So I read the article in ESPN that Seth Wickersham did where it's just profiling Matt Stafford in his new home in LA. I think it just came out today. And I think the entire time Matt Stafford just was not liking Seth Wickersham's questions because all the answers that he gave were like, I don't want to talk to you about that

Seth. And so Seth had to write an article that was basically what he thinks Matt Stafford thinks. Really all that I took away from the article was he's skinny and he's looking skinny. Here's my big concern. He signed two endorsements, endorsement deals this off season one with fanatics. That's pretty normal. With a yoga apparel company. So no more wide nine Matt Stafford.

No more fat Stafford. He's like Hollywood now. Damn. So part of what I used to like about Matt Stafford is he had a little bit of that chunk going. But I but it goes back to something we always talk about is like, never try to be too great at anything. Matt Stafford has the most pressure he's ever had in his life right now because he can't. Maybe I'm a coward in the inner competitor of me is not up to par.

But it wouldn't have been bad to just stay with Detroit the whole time and just be like, well, it wasn't my fault. It was the Lions fault. Right. Now it's like, OK, you have to be good. Well, think about it. We look back at the careers of Calvin Johnson, Barry Sanders, so fondly. Right.

Because they've got the added sympathy. That's better because if Barry Sanders was, let's just say that he played on the Raiders for a while. OK. And the Raiders lost a few times in the playoffs. Maybe they were in that tuck rule game. Barry Sanders, I don't know was he still? That's probably after Barry.

A little after. But let's just say that they were in the playoffs a couple of times. He lost a couple of playoff games. There would be people talking like Barry Sanders couldn't win the big one. Right. That's never a question for a Lions player. Right. And it's it's kind of like I'd rather be underrated my entire life than be underrated

and then be proven to be properly rated. At least don't go to a big market to try to prove yourself. And the Sean McVeigh angle and the fact that their defense is so good. I don't know. No pressure, Matt. It's a lot of pressure. It's a high bar form. Like what what would you consider to be a disappointing season for the Rams?

Not making the playoffs is absolutely that. Yeah, that's very bad. They have to make the playoffs. I think they need to win two playoff games. Or no, they get one. They need to get to the one divisional round. If they win the wild card. Yeah. Yeah.

That's yeah. They need to be in two playoff. Yes. Correct. Which would be exactly what they were last. That's why I'm thinking like maybe OK. They need to get the NFC championship. They need to be in two playoff games and cover the spread in the second one.

They need to. Yeah, they need to be very close. And like if they need to go to like Lambo and keep it close. Yes, if they go to Lambo and don't get blown out, I would consider that a win. Yeah. So all right. That's I mean, I think that's kind of everything. We're we're still we're in like that eye of the hurricane where it's like about to get crazy for us.

And what better time than now to do a stress test? Yes, let's do it. So we didn't we skipped it on on Tuesday. People were mad at me. I skipped it due to time. We were trying to finish up before hard knocks started. I don't think Jake took any offense. None whatsoever. Right.

I know that because we we know each other very well. Of course. Either way, let's do the stress test, which I have already failed. Yeah. So we have 10 multiple choice questions. We can do both of you guys. But I think we should. OK, we'll do Hank too. I have. That's another great unintentional alpha by Jake.

Yep. Yep. Whoops. I guess I just forgot about Hank. Keep that same energy people who are mad at me to be mad at Jake for just walking all over Hank right there. I apologize. I just knew I just knew that Jake when we ask him to do something, he will do it and he will do 110 percent of it. I knew that he had spent a considerable amount of time preparing for the stress test.

And I'm also interested to see what we were going to do. Yeah, we just we were running out of time. I'm interested to see what Jake thinks that a stress test is, because I think when we talked about the stress test, we may have been doing it under the idea of like a John Taffer bar rescue stress test where they see what you can handle. Now, this is pretty boring and standard, but I think if we put it in the mind of football only,

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OK, all right. So every question has the options. Never almost never sometimes fairly often or very often. OK, the same answers every time. So in the last season, wait, let me write that down. Yeah, always. No, it's never almost never. Sometimes fairly often, very often.

I'm going to get tripped up with almost never and sometimes sometimes. That's like basically one to five. Basically one to five. What are the other two? All right. Can we just do one to five? Yeah. So one is most stressed. Five is least stressed. Well, one is no one is never.

Five is always. Very often. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Wait, five is five is always always. Very often. Yeah. In the last season, how often have you been upset because of something that happened unexpectedly? Football only five.

Five. Five. It's an easy five. So we're going to get a score one to 40 of how stressed you are at the end of these 10. OK. I feel you guys might have identical tests. Yeah, let's just do one test. Yeah, almost together.

We'll we'll we'll decide if we have a debate about any of them. OK. And the last season, how often have you felt that you were unable to control important things in your life? Football only. Four and a half. I'm you know, I'm going to say three. Well, last year was COVID year, too.

So there was a lot. Oh, yeah. No, that's a good point. There was a lot out of our control. Last year was like a I'm just glad to be her year. Four. Yeah, we can call it a four. OK, so fairly often when you're in the NFC East, it's pretty easy to like just let things happen and you end up on time. I think this was easy.

How often have you felt nervous and stressed? Five. Five. Yeah. You guys are going to have a high score, I think. Felt confident about your ability to handle your personal problems. I'd say it's a three. I think that my personal problems are my football problems during football season. So yeah, what's three again?

Sometimes. Yeah, three. Yeah. Sure. Three. Three. All right. Question five. Felt that things were going your way. Five. Never. So one. One. Never. Things were going my way. I feel like Hank had a pretty good season. He did.

No, the Patriots stunk. Yeah. This is football only not gambling. Yeah, it's both. It's both. Yeah. The big gap is blind. The Bears made the playoffs last year. Yeah, they had to invent a new playoff game

just so we could get embarrassed on Nickelodeon. One. So never. Question six. How often have you found that you could not cope with all the things you had to do? Not cope. Four. Four. Yeah. Because we still did the show.

Yeah, four. OK. Been able to control irritations in your life. Never. Two. Two. Almost never. Yeah, almost. Yeah. Irritations like we did. I have to watch games with Big Cat.

I feel like that's. I have to watch games with Hank. No, I'm saying. No, it's not bad for me. I'm saying for you. All right. So almost. Yeah. It's out of your control. Correct.

How often have you felt that for order? I got every bet that's winning. You got every bet that's losing kind of feeling. How often have you felt that you were on top of things? Yeah. What? On top of things. Two. You always?

Almost never. Oh. Football only. We're on top of it all. Football only. On top of things. Yeah. Sorry. No, but think about like everything that goes on.

Like, do you think that you're paying attention to like keeping in touch with friends doing all like? No, but football only. Football only. How? When you're sitting in there watching Red Zone. Right. Say the question again.

How often have you felt that you were on top of things? Football only. No. I think it's a five. No. Payoffs, right? There's five is always. The five is very often.

No, definitely not very often. Here's what the issue is. You guys always talk about a game that you're like, are you sure that game happened? Yeah. And I'm like, hey, keep an eye on that. And then I'm like, why didn't anyone keep an eye on that? That over is going to die. The afternoon games are where we get really thrown off on this

because there are like two weeks a year where they give us six games or it feels like all the games that you have. So I'm going to say I'm going to say three because I say two. If it's a normal schedule, it's good. If it's one of these fucked up schedules, then it's much, much more difficult. But I'm thinking, think about just think about just when we get to the witching hour.

You're not you're not on top of everything. There's no way if it was any of us. It was Scott Hansen on the two. Yeah. Two. I think two. I actually like Ceciliano. All right, what's three again? Sometimes.

All right, fine. Go three. All right, two more on the penultimate question. How often have you been angered because of things that happened out of your control? Five, five, six. Always. Lastly, how often have you felt

difficulties were piling up so high that you cannot overcome six? Give that one a six. No, that's that's probably a three that you couldn't. Difficulties piling up that you can't overcome. We always overcome and football. We always overcome. I don't know. I think because we're at the end of the bad betting day.

You come in here, you do the podcast. Yeah, that's true. But in the moment when I'm watching the early slate, but you bounce back for the late slate, even one loss, even if I go like five and one during one part of the afternoon, maybe we deviate here because I always bounce back. Get off the mat.

You say one. I never lay down on the mat. Five and you say three. I wallow. Agree at four. I wallow in my pity. Hey, but no, but you eventually get off the mat. Like it's actually say the question one more time.

How often have you felt difficulties were piling up so high that you could not overcome them? You can always overcome PFT. I know you're not giving it herself enough. But sometimes you feel like you can't. But you always overcome. Sometimes you feel like you can't. I agree with you about the momentary feeling.

But you always show up. You always get back up. You hit you. You're never down for 10. You know, the 10 count. We'll give it a three point. So three. Three point three.

Three point one, four, one, five, nine. You don't give yourself enough credit. You got resilience. You got grit. All right. You guys out of 40 have a stress score of 31. That's high. OK.

And that's preseason. Yes. What's good? Probably under 20. OK. Not a great baseline. We'll do one mid-season and post-season. Yeah.

It's going to be even more. It's going to be off the charts. 31 out of 40 stress score. So preseason. There we go. Yeah. I mean, so the reason why we started this is because you said that when I said like,

or we both said a few months ago, that it's harder to watch football than playful. More stressful. More stressful. Yeah. And that is. Which is true. It's true.

We just proved it. Wait, wait, so if you go back and you read through these quite a bit, I'm going to pretend like I'm, let's just say I'm C.D. Lamb. OK. I'm a wide receiver. I play on the Dallas Cowboys. Ask me some of those.

Just pick a couple of questions at random. All right. Felt that you were unable to control important things in your life. One. Yeah. Because all these questions, they can actually affect. They can control.

Yeah. Me as a viewer, I can't. Right. I really can't control. I'm at the whims of the gods. Although I do think Matt Nagy would probably have just as much stress because he can't control anything. That's true.

So how often does C.D. Lamb feel nervous and stressed? I don't think he does. He's like, I'm going to go out there and just be really fast and awesome. Yeah. See, this is the thing. Yes. This just actually.

They control it. It proves that watching football is by a factor of 10 more difficult than playing football. We just, they are the operator of the roller coaster. We're just so long for the ride. So we proved our point. Yeah. I think we're right.

OK. I'd like to see one of them trade positions with us for a weekend. They couldn't do it. Don't think so. They couldn't do it. All right. Let's get to our interviews.

So we got Caleb Dressel coming up. Awesome interview. We got the best compliment we can ever get after an interview. He said to Peggy, who booked him. Shout out Peggy. Shout out Peggy. That he had so much fun and he's been burnt out from doing interviews, but he could have stayed on with us for an hour.

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Sling.com, get your first month starting at just $10. And here he is, Caleb Dressel. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is a seven-time Olympic gold medalist. You saw him in Tokyo. You're gonna see him this weekend. If you tune in to CBS, it is this Saturday. So tomorrow when we're airing this,

the ISL in Naples, Italy. So it's a professional swimming league and it's third season. It is Caleb Dressel. Caleb, thank you for joining us. Now, I don't wanna minimize all the gold medals that you've won and the incredible accomplishments you've had in the pool,

but to kind of break down the fourth wall, fifth wall, I never get that right. We were supposed to interview you yesterday and we got a message that you were saving someone's life out of a ditch. And we have been sitting here, we haven't moved out of these seats for 24 hours, wondering what actually happened.

So we have to start the interview with that. What happened? Okay, so I keep a winch, a tow trap, a tow strap and a tree strap in my truck in case I need it. And yesterday, I was going down the highway right before turning down the road that me and Megan live in and I passed the guy that had a trailer.

It was in one of the like free candy vans, like the creepy white vans. And there's a trailer on the back with a bunch of rocks. And he was stuck. My guy tried to do a U-turn and he got bogged down. It's been raining a lot here in Florida. So he was stuck and there was a cop right behind him. This is what I understand.

There's a cop right behind him who's just sitting there. So I turned around, pulled up next to him and was like, Hey, do you have change or a strap? He's like, I got nothing. And the cop behind me is just telling him to move out of the way because he's blocking traffic. So the cop was just sitting there, I guess,

getting on to him doing nothing. So I had my tow strap on me. And I think I actually like hurt my truck because it's a stick shift and it's not really made for pulling. So I was just riding first gear, getting this guy unstuck and my truck still stinks from the bird clutch. So I got the guy out. Super nice guy.

He's a great guy. That's why I had to miss our video straight. So I apologize, but I'm not really, not really sorry. No, no apology necessary. You left at the part where the ditch was filling up with water and you had to get him out of there. Acid rain. ASAP.

Oh yeah, there was a bunch of gators swimming in. He was stuck. Yeah, it was, I saved his life. I really did. Listen, for like, we've had, you know, things pop up on our end, on a guest's end, in the grand scheme of things. When we got the text being like,

Caleb is saving someone out of a ditch. We're like, okay, that's actually a very fair reason to reschedule this. Also credit to us because we said, you know what, let him take care of this. Let him save the person's life. We don't need him rushing to us. So we kind of saved that person's life too

by giving you permission to miss the interview. Yes, true. Yeah, he gave me permission. I'd say. Yes, we're all heroes. You and Tim Tebow, two athletes out of Florida that have saved the most lives. All right, so Caleb, let's talk some swimming though.

So, incredible Olympics. We watched you in Tokyo. Now you're going to swim again this weekend? I mean, aren't you tired? Yeah, yeah, I'm really tired. You know, I don't know if I'm exactly ready for it. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to seeing my teammates again.

And the league, it really is fun. I mean, I'm not going to bull crap anything and say like, oh yeah, I'm super excited. I'm super in shape to go do this. I'm not, but I think this is the best way to go get back into my routine, to get back into race shape. And I get to be around a bunch of people who are in the same boat as me.

So I think that'll make it a little bit easier. I mean, I've swam a couple of times since being back. I think I've swam five times since being back from the Olympics. Like I needed a break. And this was a little closer than I would have liked, but this is the cards I've been given. So I'll be ready to go.

Looking forward to it. Probably not going to swim that fast, but it's fine. Okay, wait, so I have a follow up question to that because this is fascinating to me. So you raced in the Olympics, you won gold medals, you were awesome. How quickly do you lose that peak peak level of performance? Does it happen that quickly?

Yeah, dude. So if I take two days out of the water, I'm going to feel like trash. Really? The following on that. Two days. It's such a touchy sport. I mean, everyone's different.

I mean, it bops out like you're not actually out of shape, but so basically we're training because of COVID this year, my base was like an 18 month base where I had 18 months of training, which is way more than I've ever had. And then you start, it's called taper. You start to drop the training

and get a little more rest on your belt. So you're not swimming tired. You can swim basically off of all the work you put in. So then you start to taper for about a month and then you go to the meet and then you take three weeks off. So basically your training has been slowly going down for like a total of two months.

And then you've got to get back into shape with everything. Yeah, so when you're at the meet, you're technically, like in the Olympics, I'm at like my peak of swimming with doing last training. So it's weird. It's a very weird, weird sport. And then you take time off and then everything just goes downhill after that.

That's crazy. Or you're mentally surprised. Yeah, just two weeks off is all it takes. Like, are you said two days? Two days. Without being in the water, it feels like shit. Two days, okay. Two days you won't be out of shape,

but you'll feel it. But two weeks, yeah, two weeks out of the water, you'll be out of shape. I mean, I got to, I'm not fat or anything right now, but I'm not in swim shape. You look kind of chunky right now. No offense. Like you look like a pork.

It's the new iPhone. I'm on actually the wide, the wide angle lens. I might do wide. Well, I was going to ask you, is it okay that I've kind of low key been objectifying you and I wanted your permission because I have been saying that you're very good looking.

You said hot. I said hot, hot, hot. He's a hot, he's a hot bod. He's a hot, one of those huts. So is that okay that I was saying that? That's, yeah, that's totally fine. Okay, cool, cool. I love it.

I've got a couple of really dumb questions about swimming because I have, I know how to swim. I've been in several pools, but I don't know like any of the intricacies about the sport. Is there such a thing like are certain pools faster than others, can the water be fast? Like Tokyo, was that fast water? That Tokyo was fast water.

The only, the only knock I have on Tokyo is like for NCAA swimming, they double, what do you call it? They have two lane lines for each lane because the water gets real choppy. So if you look at NCAA championships, like my senior year all the way, I mean, all the way through, they have two lane lines for each lane because there's so much water being displaced.

And for some reason, Fina only does one. So my only knock was Tokyo was a little choppy, but that was definitely the best pool I've ever been in. Best and fastest for sure. Okay, and it doesn't matter like are all the pools the same depth? No, it's weird. So temperature, the temperature that you usually aim for

is like 78 to 80 degrees. I guess it sounds hot, but like 78, you're gonna be shivering if you're not moving the whole time. Yeah, that's great. So it's good race temperature. Yeah, that feels cold. Yeah, yeah.

So I like it around like 80 because I don't want to jump in. And plus we're shaved during all this. So there's no body hair at all to keep us warm. So I like 80 because you can warm up and feel fine. And plus my races don't last long. So it's not like I'm gonna overheat. But yeah, oh, there's a lot of like little different things

each pool has, but the depth is usually somewhere from like eight to 10 around there. I like nine feet. Nine feet is kind of kind of where I work with. And then the blocks are the same. And then sometimes the gutters are different. Like that, I think that's what makes it pool fast is that the gutters displace the water over the edge.

So like basically in Tokyo, you could just walk right into the water. You don't have to step up on a ledge or anything. And that helps the water displace over to the side and the pool get less choppy. Got it. Like an infinity pool almost. Yes.

Okay. Yeah, yeah. Like one of the rooftop pool. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like. That kind of makes sense. So a pool can be slower if there's more like waves bouncing off the wall and then coming back to the middle. Right?

That's why you want to be in one of the middle lands when you swim. Yeah. And if it's like, if a pool's shallow, you can't get under the wave coming off of the walls. And sometimes the water. Yeah. If the water doesn't have me where to go,

you're just going to get smacked around in there. Because I swim in the ocean. Oh, go ahead. Here's another really dumb question. Is the pool actually blue? Is the water blue or is the pool blue? No, the what? The water's clear.

Everything in Tokyo, everything was white. Yeah, it's water. Did I just blow your mind? I'm trying to back you up on this. I don't want to like absolutely bash you right here, but I think the walls, the walls are white. The bottom's white and the water's clear. Did it look blue on TV?

Yeah, it always looks blue, right? Did it? I don't remember it. I don't remember it. Water always looks blue in the Olympics when you're swimming. I, am I the crazy one right now? Hank's saying no. You see it too. Swimming.

Bubba's color blind, so we can't trust him. But yeah. No, I think the bottom is blue. Yeah, the bottom is blue. No, the what? The bottom's blue? Yeah, the bottom's blue and the walls are blue. So the water's clear.

The water's clear, the, yeah. Are you color blind? So I have no idea what I'm talking about. It's basically what's happening. Yeah, I'm looking right now at a picture. It seems like the bottom and the walls are blue. You spend your entire life in a pool. Have you ever like taken a glass and then dipped it in

and then pulled the water out? He's been in the pool. I feel like he's- The water's, the water's, no, the water's clear and the lining of the pool was white. There's no way it's not blue. I trust Caleb. What are you talking about?

It looks, there's blue. There's blue, there's blue. That's the color blue. Oh, you can't see it, but it's blue. The bottom is blue. It has to be blue. How is this possible that it's white? I decided, man.

I'm so scared to say anything right now because it's gonna be wrong. Yeah. No, it's white and clear. It's white and clear. How come it looks blue? It looks blue. It looks really blue.

Is that like saying the sky is clear, but when you look up because of like bullshit, like sun refraction and stuff, the sky's blue? I got a little bit, I got a little bit of a better picture. I think it's like a very light, light blue, but then the lines are blue. So maybe that's why it looks blue. What lines are blue?

The lines on the lanes. Oh, the actual ropes. No, no, on the bottom of the pool. The lines. Oh, the T? Yeah. No, the T's were, okay. That's black.

This is the hill I'm dying on right now. The T's were definitely black. Black? The T's were definitely black, yeah. All right. Yeah, it looks blue. It definitely looks blue. All right, so, I mean, now I'm confused.

Do you pee in the pool? How quickly after you get into the pool do you pee? Let me rephrase that. Now, I saw what Ryan, long as you got asked this question years ago and you got put on a burner, so I can't answer that one. I got to learn from that.

That means you do. That's you saying, yeah, that's like, oh, it's a hippo violation to ask me if I pissed the pool. Everybody pees in the pool. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, nobody, no swimmer ever does. So when you're racing and you're doing a 50 meter or a 100 meter, do you have even time

to see the guys next to you? Like, can you feel it? Like, all right, they're very, very close. Or I got this. Yeah, I know it's weird. Before every race, I know who's gonna be the guy that I'm gonna be racing in that heat. You know, you get a certain feel for it.

I knew Hunter Free was gonna be the Australian Kyle Chalmers, who's a great guy. I knew Hunter Fly was going to be Kristoff Milak. You know, you have a feel of where these guys are gonna be. And Kyle and Hunter Free was actually two lanes over from me. But I could still, you can almost feel, you could just feel where they're at. Because you can see water being displaced

and the peripherals on my goggles are actually pretty good. So I could tell he was gonna be right there. And you know when you're swimming out front in open water, like it's a different sensation. So I didn't have that in any race because most of my races were close. But you can definitely see guys next to you. And then off the walls, when you turn,

you can get a feel of where everybody's at for sure. And then touching the pad at the end, has there ever been a race that you've been in where you touched it and you're like, but it didn't work? Like your buzzer's broken in a game show? No, not me. But I've had teammates where like they'll miss it with their hand and then they'll trigger it

with their head or something like that. And then all they do is, they usually have a manual timers behind them as well, in case they have to go back and see. But I've seen people miss it. I don't think I ever have, but I've seen a couple of teammates. Nice, nice. I heard that you like to pick up one piece of trash a day.

Is that true, just one? Yeah, I mean, sometimes, if I'm seeing, I mean, that's not like the rule is like, oh, I picked up one, I'm not just gonna like pass another one. But no, I mean, I have a couple rules throughout the day that I like to establish and get my day going. I mean, the easiest one is making my bed.

You know, I stole that from, oh gosh, I've even read, oh, his book is called Make Your Bed. That makes sense. Oh, okay. Yeah. So it was, he did a graduation speech at the University of Texas. I forget his name.

I can't remember if it was a colonel or a lieutenant, but it's a great book and great speech. But no, it's the easiest thing about it. It's the first thing you do throughout the day. Everyone can make their bed. Everyone's able to make their bed. You wake up, make your bed. If you, what?

Well, all right, we'll do counterpoint. No. You okay? Like, I can just get back into my bed. Not made. No, once you're already up and out of your bed. Right. Is it that hard to actually make your bed?

Will you agree if it's not that hard to make your bed? I don't know if it's hard as the word. Like chores suck. What is the benefit? No, chores. Did I? You like doing chores? No, this is where I do.

I like having habitual chores throughout the day, yeah. And making my bed is one of them. You can say about it. If that's the... Yeah, you're like a working dog. You're a working dog. It like a cattle dog. And we're more like pugs.

Yeah, or pugs, just sitting on the couch. No, you're defined by your habits. I like to have good habits throughout the day. If that's the first task you complete throughout your day, you've already kick-started to have a domino effect for the rest of your day. And if you have a terrible day, you get to come home to a nice clean bed.

There's not a loose situation here with making your bed. Yeah, but if you're saying like, oh, well, at the start of the day, I can do this and get an easy win. That's like a Mickey Mouse schedule. It's like, okay, yeah, you're playing a cupcake at the start. It's like Alabama when they play week one

against some team that nobody's ever heard of. They stop from 71 to nothing. So like at the end of the day, is making your bed really preparing you for the next chore? I don't know, cause like I'm just gonna get, wait, here's the real question. When you're in a hotel or when you're at the Olympics, let's just say hotel room.

Hotel room, do you make the bed? Yeah, I make the bed. What? Psychopath. My twin bed, my twin bed, my twin bed in the Olympic Village was made every single day. I actually picked up some, I picked up a whole bed, a bed sheet like set from Walmart before we left,

because that was the only thing I feel like I can make, feel like home was my bed. So I got like a whole floral sheet. It's a beautiful set, really beautiful floral sheet with, or no floral, it's a floral comforter. And then I got like a dark green, dark green in their color. So I got a sheet set that was dark green.

I brought my pillow from home and then I got a master's copper. So I had the best bed in the village before. Well, this is the beauty of this show too, because you're a world-class athlete, gold medalist, done incredible things, you know, physical things that are beyond like anything we could ever dream of.

And here we are two guys and we're just like, no way would we make our bed, we're fucking losers. We're like, you're an idiot. Like dude, be like us, just leave your bed. I don't like sheets, I don't like, I don't sleep with sheet, like the top sheet, I hate it. I just sleep with a blanket. I've switched to that.

That's why I don't do the make the bed thing. Oh, I hate it too, but I had to adapt because my wife is like obsessed with the whole, dude, we have like, we have two sheets. Yeah, there's like, yeah. How did you not strangle yourself? I would die if I had two sheets, you'd see me and I'd just be in a cocoon of sheets

because I'm a very like violent sleeper, yeah. It's heavy. If you go to like a just during the night or you go to pull the sheets up, you're straining a little bit. You have to really work, you have to earn your sheets at night. Yeah, it's ridiculous.

I rather just have the comforter and I'm good to go. Yeah, I made that switch about like two months ago, changed my life to go and just comfort my life. Oh, I've been in all my life. So you've got two sheets, are they the same sheet or is there a light sheet, a heavy sheet? I forget what she calls it, but we have the comforter, the big boy, and then there's like a little decorative blanket

which is, it's kind of stupid as well. So comforter and then there's like a white sheet and then we have the thin sheet and then the body, the human body and then the like the fitted sheet. Okay, so this actually kind of makes sense because you making your bed is actually like an accomplishment, that's a lot of things. So now I get it, like you actually,

that actually is a legit thing that you're doing. You probably have to stretch before you make your bed. You got to like really bend over and don't use your back too much. I get it now, I get it. It's like going to the gym is making your bed. Yeah, it's a task, man. It's like, I mean, it takes some time.

If I'm being honest, it was a lot easier to pitch this, make your bed thing when I was like in my own queen bed and only had one sheet on the bed. It was much easier, but I'm sticking to it. Okay. It's a chore. All right, I got a question that, I don't want you to take it in a morbid way, but it has a morbid, it's kind of morbid,

but Caleb Dressel, you're out on a boat, your boat capsizes. How many miles away from shore can you swim back and survive? If you're like, if you're five miles away, let's say water temperature's not an issue, can you still survive? Is this just strictly off of how far it can go or do I have to watch for sharks or anything like that?

Let's say a couple of sharks. There's one shark. Yeah, one shark, you don't know when. But he's hungry. Yeah. Like a nurse shark? No, it's a bull shark. He's hungry, but he's only got one eye.

He's got, it is Finn got hit by a propeller last month, so it's a little weird. And you got, you have a, like you cut your nails too close. So one of your nails has like a little bit of blood coming out, just a little. Yeah. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay. I could make it.

I could get 10, I could get 10 miles. 10 miles? So 12 miles, you're dead. 12 miles, 11 miles, I'm dead, yeah. Okay, 10 miles is a really long way. It is, but if it's just on survival, I mean, I wouldn't enjoy it. And I think this is something I'd enjoy,

but if it's just on survival alone, if the shark wasn't there, I think I could do, I definitely could do way more, but that's the only sketchy part. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, the shark might get tired too. Yeah, you should actually do that. You know how like Michael Phelps did the bullshit, I'm gonna out swim a shark in Shark Week.

You should actually be like, hey, I'm Caleb Dressel. I can swim 50 meters faster than a shark and get in the pool with a shark. Watch me give you, hey, I'm Caleb Dressel, watch me die right now. This is essentially what the show would be. I mean, I'd watch. Not to be that morbid, but I'd definitely tune in.

Like, I like you, but I'd watch. So we did get more, but it wasn't very more of a question. I think we could probably, I think if I were, I'd have to be probably about 300 yards from shore, otherwise I'd just, I'd be like, all right, see ya. I had a good run and there's slowly sink to the bottom. I mean, 300, that's still, that's still pretty four. Oh, you think it's 300 yards?

No, 300 is a really long way to swim. Once I touched the floor, yeah. I'm a good swimmer. If I can't feel the bottom of the sea, I'm like, well, I'm dead, that's fine. All right, so next question. How long can you hold your breath? Okay, so this is like, I get this question a lot.

It's made from little, I'm not trying to knock you. It's made from little kids, but I always tell them like, oh, by the way, that wasn't an insult. Like, that's kind of what we do, is we just ask little kid questions. So normally what I tell them is like, oh, not that long, because I don't want to say a number

and then they come back and they try to do it. And I'm like, I have little kids passing out because they're trying to hold their breath as long as me. I promise I won't try to do whatever number you say. I will. So listen to this. So I read this book. I've heard of a guy called Wim Hall.

Yes, the breathing techniques. He goes in like cold water and shit. So listen, I went through a phase where I tried it out and I mean, I loved it and I did his technique one day. I was about to fall asleep. I was like, I did the whole technique. I was like, like, I'm just gonna try, I'm just gonna try to hold my breath.

Dude, I made it five minutes and six seconds. What? Yeah. And the scariest part, the scariest part is I felt fine. And I was like, dude, I need to take a breath. Five minutes. Yeah, I got it.

So five minutes, six seconds is my record. But I was like. You just quit because you were bored, not because you were done holding your breath. Yeah, honestly, the worst part wasn't my heart rate or that I needed to breathe. It was there was so much air in my lungs that my throat started to hurt from like kink and at all.

So it like, that was the worst part of my throat hurt. That's insane. Holy shit, man. That is actually crazy. Yeah. So you feel like a super human? Do you feel like a super human? I scared myself doing that for sure. Yeah. Cause I was like, this isn't, that was not normal.

I remember looking at the clock at three minutes and I feeling fine. And I was like, well, I'll go a little longer. And I looked again, it was five minutes. I was like, I gotta stop. Yeah. So when you swim the 50 meters, you don't take a breath, right?

The entire time. That's easy for you. Well, no, it's a lot different when you're laying in your bed and then when you're, you know, exerting every muscle in your body going all out for a length of the pool. So I'm out of breath after the 50. I wouldn't say it's hard.

I mean, I can make it a couple more meters, but you're, you're definitely out of, you're gassed after the 50 for sure. Well, since you are an Olympic swimmer, I think we have to ask you a question about your diet and how many calories you get to eat during a day. I'm sure you've never been asked that question before, but just like, can you tell us how awesome it is

to eat all that food and give me an example of like, you know, on a heavy day of training, what are you allowed to eat? Yeah. I mean, I know I can get away. If I'm being honest, I can eat, I can eat anything I want, but I don't, I don't do that. The way, the way I view it in high school, I did that, I ate terrible in high school,

but I'm at the age now to where, what I put in my body is what I'm, what I'm going to get out. You're not going to put, you know, lawnmower fuel in a race car. What I'm, what I'm putting in is what I need to get out for my body. So I try to eat, you know, morning is going to be heavy carbs,

fuel me throughout the day, lunch about half protein, half carbs, and then dinner is going to be primarily protein. So I stick to that basic schedule and then throughout there, you know, the cleanest, cleanest proteins I can get, cleanest carbs I can get. So the morning is going to be a lot of fruit, you know, bagel stuff like that.

I eat a lot. That's the only hard part is some days I call it, I just need some dirt. So some days I got to go to five guys. Some days I got to, I got to crush a box of Reese's. Like some days I need that. Like I think that's actually the best fit for me. Like my body lets me know when I need calories,

because you'll finish a whole meal and you're just sitting there and it feels like you haven't eaten anything. So it's annoying because I have to eat. I have to eat for two. Like I, like when I go out to dinners with Megan, like I order two meals when she cooks, it's basically like cooking for a family. So it is annoying.

Like I like to eat, but I wish it could just be normal quantities. But I do eat healthy. I take a lot of pride in that, knowing that I'm not just feeling my body with trash and then a bunch of supplements. So this is where we actually are kind of the same, but I, much like you could have gone,

you went five minutes without breathing, I can eat a full meal, feel full and keep eating. So I do feel full, but then I just power through that feeling of, hey, you're good and just keep on eating. That's the, that's the competitors we do, yeah. Yeah, you're just feeling your body even more. And we're just, we're all athletes here.

You know, you don't want to get your body something it doesn't need, you know? I'm the guy at the pump who doesn't realize that there's no restrictor and he's just gas flowing out of his car because he's over full. You know what you should do? You should psych out like the next generation of swimmers

like your future competition and you should post on Instagram like twice a week, like, all right, cheat day and have just a picture of like seven giant pizzas and tell everybody that's what you eat. Then people will copy your diet. They'll get really slow. You'll continue your reign as a champion.

Well, I do have, I do have cheat days. Like some days, some day, like, yes, mainly throughout the week, it's gonna be a lot of seafood, a lot of salmon, a lot of chicken, but then some days, dude, I need, like I need a cheeseburger. That's my only, that's my only option in that moment. Some days I need five guys.

Sometimes I need a milkshake from Culver's. Like it's very, it's very obvious when I need it. Like I'll get home and I know immediately on the way home. I'm like, this is, this is what I need. I need the dirt. But your, your cheat day is like what I do when I take the stairs to my apartment one time. And I'm like, I've earned this.

Lunch. Yeah, five guys for lunch. I'm saying like, I'm saying like four pizzas, three milkshakes, have just like a giant bowl of frost and mini-wheats for health in the picture. And then everybody behind you will start to like copy your diet cause it's like, oh, I want to swim as fast as Caleb.

And next thing you know, it's like the entire, all your competition is fat at that point. So good for you. Just an idea. Yeah, just an idea. That's actually, it's not a, it's really not a bad idea. Just weight them out. That's a great idea.

Yeah. All right, I have my last question. So you can watch Caleb this weekend, Saturday on CBS, the ISL from Naples, Italy. He's about to hop on a flight. So you, I saw, you know, you had some good comments about the mental toll that the Tokyo Olympics took and how taxing it was.

Now, like kind of a serious question, but can you maybe put into words what we as viewers don't really understand about this level of athleticism and this level of sport that we kind of take for granted. And when we criticize or we do the hot takes, we're not really understanding the mental toll that goes into everything to win seven gold medals. Yeah. I mean, when people are turning on the TV

to watch the Olympics, you know, I want to put on a good show. I want to, I want to swim fast. I want to, I want to represent my country the best I can. When someone's watching the TV, that's what they, that's what they want to watch. They want to see, they want to see something exciting. So I don't expect everyone to understand

the complete opposite side of everything. If someone doesn't want to buy into that, that's fine. If they want to turn on the TV and watch me swim, turn it off, great. So I don't expect everyone to understand the ins and out of this sport, this sport, how I work and operate. Cause I don't, I don't think it's fair.

Not everyone wants, wants to deal with that. But since you asked, there, there is a whole separate side of the sport that when the cameras are off, I mean, it's, it's brutal. You know, if I've said in interviews before, I mean, I, I love competing, I really do. But that week of, if it's a world championships or an Olympic games, it means brutal.

It's absolutely brutal. You're putting your body through some of the most demanding physical tasks that you can ask for, back to back swims. On top of that, you're not in your own, your own room, your own bed, your own diet. You've been eating the same athlete dining food for a month, which was great, but you eating anywhere for a month, you're going to be sick of it.

And then the mental side of, of having to answer media questions, how I'm going to understand that this guy wants to be used bad as you want to beat him, that no race is a given. You know, right after the race, I get done swimming, you have to walk through the media zone for 15 minutes. So I can't even, you can't even go down or down right away. So you're out of breath, hopping and popping,

trying to answer, I mean, you saw the interview questions where you can't even understand the swimmers because you're just sitting there trying to catch your breath. You know, not being able to sleep at night, just the nerves are up and running. You know, when I get nervous, I don't eat. Some people are the opposite and they overeat. So there's a lot, but I'm not going to go

and tell everyone this, if they want to watch me perform and they find it exciting when I swim fast, I'll do that. I love putting on a show, but there's definitely a flip side. I mean, this whole year, more so than any year. I mean, I've been lifting in my strength coaches garage for a year and a half. The, you know, our weight room at University of Florida hasn't been open that.

And then getting married, moving into a new house, you know, this whole year has been, there's been a lot of unknowns and then you're throwing COVID on top of that. You know, I can't tell you how many times my head's been buried in Megan's chest this whole year, just with how frustrating the sport can get. You know, trying to find every little detail in my diet,

how much I'm sleeping at night. You know, I'm not fun every day to be around and practice. My goal is not to have a good time when I'm there. It's to get better. And if you're my teammate and you're not expecting that as well from yourself, then I'm not gonna be fun to be around. I'm there to get better.

I'm not there to have a good time. Now, most of the time, of course, I'm enjoying myself. So how invest I am in practice and then making sure I'm taking the right supplements, making sure I'm recovering with acupuncture massage. I mean, every little detail that hones into one moment, one week of your life for a meat that goes on every four years.

Yeah, it'll get your heart rate up and it'll make you shake a little bit. It's a great answer. And it's kind of what I was looking for because I count me as part of the, I turn on swimming once every four years and don't understand what goes into it. And we're just like screaming at our TV, swim faster.

Yeah, right, right. That's as much as we are. Or you're hot, Caleb, you look really hot. And then, no, and that's fine. Like, I'm not expecting everyone to know my life story. I'm not expecting them to know the hardships that go through it. That's what I get to experience.

That's where I get to learn about myself. That's why I'm still in the sport is I enjoy the challenges. The valleys and the mountaintops, all of them come together to where you can learn a lot about yourself and you can find things to move forward in the sport. That's for me.

That's why it doesn't matter if there's not a camera on me at all times. So people understand like, oh, that's why he didn't go a world record in this event or whatever. I'm not expecting him. If you want to turn in a TV, watch me swim a couple laps and turn it off, I'm fine with that. Yeah, and all that stuff that you mentioned

that we don't get to see like being in isolation, having to work out in your strength coaches garage, putting your body through hell for weeks and weeks at a time when you're getting ready for a competition. None of that sounds as bad to me as making your bed every morning. So you deserve all the effort. You do put yourself through hell.

Yeah, I mean, I'm still enjoying the sport though. Like I said, I'm doing it for the challenges. The sport has taught me a lot about myself. I'm capable of more than I think. I think everybody is. That's my biggest thing in the sport. If I can pitch that to someone, they're capable of something great.

It's probably not in the pool. I don't want everyone to be swimmers. That would be so boring. And I think I would suck for the world population. I think we're greater, we're capable of something greater than we think. You know, swimming has certainly taught me that. I love it.

I love it. Oh, last real quick. We have a guy who's on the show. He's not here today. He's like kind of his hobby is stolen valor. And he was talking about possibly getting the Olympic rings tattoo, even though he's never been to the Olympics.

Would you, if you saw him with the Olympic rings tattoo, would you say like, hey, would you compete in? No, probably not. Dude, I've had people, my favorite, I've had people ask me, cause my rings are on my forearm. Like I'm checking out at Publix and like, hey, like are you a big fan?

Like, well, technically, yeah. Dude, she asked me and I was like, well, technically, yeah. I was like, yeah, I am a fan. And I just left it at that. So, yeah, maybe just a fan. I guess you can do it. Perfect. That's such a flex.

Well, Caleb, thank you so much. Congratulations on all your success. It was awesome to watch you in Tokyo. Everyone tune in on Saturday, CBS. And we appreciate it, man. Anytime you're in New York City, come by the office. All right, I can do that, boys. All right, see you man.

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And now for something completely different. Okay, we now welcome on Pac-Man Jones. He is fighting at Ruff and Rowdy. Tonight, we're gonna tape this. We're gonna run it on Friday. So it's tonight. Go buy it right now by rnr.com. I'll be on the call.

He's fighting Bobby Lang, our heavyweight champion. Pac-Man, good to have you on. How are you feeling ahead of this fight? That I, I'll tell you right now, I think you're gonna get knocked out. All right, well, that's your opinion. And you can bet some snack rules on it if you want. You want a better thousand pushups.

Thousand pushups? Oh, you want a better thousand? All right. Thousand pushups or a thousand dollars. I'll bet you a thousand dollars. So just, I mean, now I gotta make sure that the Penn people don't get mad at me that I'm just throwing this bet out there.

But I think this is like one of those scenarios where it's college game day and you're Kirk Herbstry. I don't think you're allowed to say, I'll bet you a thousand dollars of Big Cat's money. All right, it's a deal. All right, so he'll win. I'm saying Bobby Lang will win. All right, I'm saying Bobby Lang will not win.

You bring your cash Friday night. And so tell me why you think you're gonna win. I know you played in the NFL that little league. Tell me why you think Bobby Lang gonna win. Cause I've seen him fight. He's a good fighter. He throws bombs. And do you ever see me fight?

No. Well, no, that video. Yeah, the airport. Yeah, y'all seen a video of me in the airport with two hundred thousand dollars in my book bag with my whole family when I really didn't want to fight. Yeah. Although, you know, an airport is actually like

the safest place in the world to fight because there's, you know, all the TSA that goes into it. You know that nobody has a weapon on them. Well, I was fighting TSA. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. They have all the weapons that they've confiscated. Yes.

Yeah. So tell us, though, how is training gone? Like, I mean, I know you're obviously an incredible athlete, played in the NFL for a very long time. But boxing is different. Have you, in your training, have you noticed how hard it is? Have you, do you have any boxing in your background? Anything like that?

The training was very hard. You know, I got a lot of respect for anybody who's trying to be a boxer, you know, getting up running three, four miles a day, core, you know what I mean, doing workouts that you don't get to stop for 20 minutes. The respect level for the boxer out the roof, not saying nothing against the brotherhood

that I have with my football brothers. But the boxing shape is a lot different. And this is kind of a home crowd for you, too. You got a lot of fans out in West Virginia. Have you thought about that? Have you thought about either your entrance song that you're going to make into the ring, or what that crowd's going to be like when you step out there?

Um, yeah, I've thought about it all. The main thing I'm thinking about is the whooping Bobby. Yeah. Making sure my hand getting pulled up at the end of the belt and collecting my $1,000 now that I know between you guys. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, I want to play country roll when I get due.

You know what I mean? Take me home. OK, I like it. So what's your strategy? I mean, here's the thing, with the Ruffin Rowdy, have you watched the Ruffin Rowdy fights yet? I watched the fights. OK.

Nobody used the jab in Ruffin Rowdy. Yeah, no, it's chaos. Three one minute rounds is true chaos. So what's your counter to that chaos? Because you can train all you want. But once you get in there, if your opponent decides they're just going to start throwing bombs, and you're going to throw them back,

all the training goes out the window. Well, that depends on how smart you are and how dumb you are. And I'm a professional, so I'm going to pick and choose my shots. And like I told you, Bobby is a bull. And I'm going to be the bull master. OK, so you're going to do a little Ole defense. Let him run by. Let him tire himself out.

When was the last time, though, you got punched in your face? Probably about four days ago when I was sparring. OK, how are you taking it? I'm eating it. Yeah. Yeah? How are you? OK, how are you?

Yeah, I know y'all keep saying how tough Bobby is, all this. Anybody who get in there is tough, man. So like that shit is out the window. Like everybody's tough. Have you got hit yet? Have you seen Bobby getting hit with a good shot yet? I don't know if he's tough. If you fucking been at every five fucking fight,

he got hit the one time against the kid who had the knee messed up and almost fucking got knocked out of there in the third round. Besides that, he hasn't been fucking hit. I do agree with you that anyone who steps into rough and rowdy is like gets my immediate respect because. Yeah, all of them guys should get the respect. If they got the nerves to jump in there.

Yeah. Like this ain't for everybody. So are you, let me ask this. So Bobby Lang has the heavyweight championship. If you win this, are you going to keep fighting at rough and rowdy? Are you going to defend your title? I love rough and rowdy. I think this is going to be my platform.

Win or if they try to sneak it up out of me and not win. But I am going to win the fight. But this is not my, this is my first fight, man. I got, I got a lot to learn. I got a lot to be, to show y'all. So it's going to be fun. So if you ask me will this be my one and last fight, the answer is no.

OK. I've seen a lot of Bobby Lang fights. And I think that there is something to the fact that he comes out hard. He charges hard at the beginning. Like you said, he's a bull. You're the bullfighter. By the time he's gotten to round three, I think if you have better cardio than him,

I think you definitely have the advantage the longer the fight goes. So is that how, how are you planning on being a bullfighter with a guy like Bobby Lang? Bobby asked from the time to bail ring to the time to bail in for a period point blank. I'm ready. And if you win this fight, I know that you called out Ocho Sinko a while back. It seemed like he was ducking you a little bit. Are you going to call him out again?

I'm happy he was ducking me on that fight because I wasn't ready then. My hands were nowhere near the speed there or now. My feet or feet is 10 times better. I'm going to let my team figure that out, but I'm ready. Hey, Bobby. So what's up, my man? We got Bobby here. Hey, hold on, hold on.

Congratulations on the win first. Thank you. I appreciate that. We know we need bad blood. Don't say congratulations. Bobby Lang did just get married last week though. Congrats, Bobby. The bad blood is what it is.

When that bail ring number would be there. Yeah. So Bobby, so the one thing that I really want to address is Pac-Man just said that you've never been hit. He's like, you've never been hit. You've never been tested. He's basically calling you a pussy right now that like you've gone in and beaten the inferior opponents.

What are you going to do? Well, first of all, I'd like to point out, I fought Travis Terman and weighed 270 pounds and I got fucking blasted by his right hook in the first round. I fucking ate it. So to say I've never been hit, clearly you haven't been wanted. That was the heaviest heavyweight champ. The guy in the boots, the guy in the boots that you referenced. Yeah.

I ain't got no guy. He's like a fucking monster. And I fucking ate that. All right. He don't hit like Pac-Man, Joe. Yeah. Well, I'm going to find out. He don't hit like Pac-Man, Joe.

I can tell you who blacked your eye before the other fight. Say it again. I couldn't hear that lip in your mouth. When you were sparring, who blacked your eye before the other fight? All the I fucking spy dudes all the time. I spy all with you. Good boxers just remember that same feeling. Some goddamn Friday night at them eight, whatever time we fight.

Hey, if you don't get a black guy, then you aren't really fighting. So I can kill less. I don't care if I leave with two black guys. They're not going to matter. Bobby Bobby. I give you a black guy. It's going to be shit. Yeah.

Pac-Man said he was going to whoop your ass from the time that the bell rung until the time the fight was over. What's your strategy? He says that he's going to you're a bull. But he's a bullfighter. Bobby, are you what you recall? Give me a prediction here, Bobby. If it's not broken, don't fix it.

So it's been working the last five times. I think I'm going to stick to the same strategy as the last five and see how it goes. What pack man? How about you? What's your plan? What if you're going to do the same thing you did to that guy in the airport?

Hey, did you hear me? Hey, I just told you. No, I couldn't do it with the last five motherfuckers. OK, well, Pac-Man, yeah, I said. Hello, can you hear me? Yes, yes. That is my fucking statement. Can you hear me, Bobby?

Yeah, I can hear you now. I won't do what the last five motherfuckers did. I can promise you that. What, lose? Yeah. Yeah. All right, so nobody's making the same about that. All right, I have a question. My last question, Bobby.

So when you were in the office a couple of weeks ago, you were looking skinny. So for people who don't know, Pac-Man put in a clause. I think I think it was officially the pussy clause. He said that Bobby has to be one hundred and seventy five pounds as a way in. What? Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. What?

Who was this? Who? What's your name again? Big Cat. Bobby, before you hopped on, I bet Pac-Man a thousand dollars. You win. Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. OK. All that pussy shit. Keep that to yourself before before before you don't make it to get the call to fight now.

All the pussy clause and all that shit. You keep that to yourself and to your to your girlfriend. But when you talking to grown men, keep that pussy shit to yourself. OK. No bitches. So keep that to yourself because I'm really about what I'm talking about. Do you understand what I'm saying?

Yeah, listen, what the fuck do you have to say? I'm trying to sell fights, Pac-Man. And you're sitting here being like, I'm going to try my best. When you when you say your fights, nigga, you better talk with respect or you won't be you won't be hosting this motherfucker come tomorrow. OK. All right. So there's a clause in there. Yeah, I won't say what it is.

I will say the way I put I put a weight clause in there at one seventy five. Yeah, that's what the fucking professionals do. Now go ahead and say what the fuck. So how much do you weigh right now, Pac-Man? Right now I weigh one seventy seven. And how much do you weigh, Bobby? I just got on the scale one seventy six. Oh, OK. So I'm good.

I'm already I'm already right where I need to be. I'll be one hundred seventy five pounds tomorrow at the weigh in. No big deal. I listen, I agree to one seventy five. I know you guys are going to pack me in for it. All right. I agree to one seventy five, so I get no problem with it. He agreed to it.

He knew what he was getting himself into. Exactly. That's what I'm saying. I agree to one seventy five. It's all good. I get I get no hot feelings about it. Do you think one seventy five is what it is? Do you think Pac-Man was a little scared when he put that clause in? Well, here's the thing. I I fought multiple guys that had a ton of weight on me.

I thought you didn't even have to answer that question. You know, I ain't got damn scared because I took the fucking fight. Come on, bro. No, I'll give you that. We're fighting. It's happening Friday night. You know, I mean, there's no there's no more talking about it. It's happening Friday night.

So yes, yes, he's going to be there, but both I'm going to be there. But you guys already know what I bring to the ring. This is his first fight. We're going to see what he brings to. But like I said, I know I'm five and all for a reason. So I don't win fights by accident. So I'm ready for this fucking fight. So yes, let's do it.

All right, let me let me get one last final prediction from both of you. Pacman Pacman, when's it going to end and how's it going to end? With my hand up like this, new champ right here. I can joke this up, too. And no hard feelings. Hey, Bobby, you can keep that heavyweight shit, but the other belt, I'm getting one of them belts. You understand?

You know what I mean? That's what I'm talking about. And what I'm telling y'all is, God damn it, Friday night, whatever fucking time we fight with shake hands at the fight. But when we get in that motherfucking ring, it's time to it's time to do what I do. But more money. Hey, thank you. Try to sell these fights.

Get some. Yeah, let's motherfucking go. Let's sell it. Because I'm like, hey, I'm going to sell it. So I ain't got no time. So I've been waiting to look in that Bobby's face. And I ain't no hard feelings. You know what I mean?

It is what it is. But it's time to put these motherfucking gloves on. OK, all the dis and that body motherfucking tickets. Because I'm telling y'all, Friday, August 27th, it's going to be a fucking show. Y'all, let's sing it again. See, that's the thing. This is not personal to me at all.

Same just like with Pac-Man. Hell no. They did like me going. This is business to me. This is a fucking business trip. That's all it is to me. Fucking business. I come down there to win fights.

I don't care who I'm fighting. You're obviously the biggest name I've gotten so far. But guess what? It's going to end the same way as the last five. I don't go down there to lose. I'm going down there to fucking win just like I do. I've been showed up in the cars. Hey, I've been in business trips.

My whole fucking life, man. My whole life have been business trips. So fucking y'all talking about my whole fucking life have been business trips. All right, so Bob. Oh, did you just hang up Bob? Bobby, what's your name? No, no, no.

My whole life have been business trips. Like I tell y'all, it ain't personal. It's a business trip for me. Same way when I lace this shit up and go play against Pittsburgh motherfucking. Whoever else you want to name, AB, TO, whatever, it's a business trip. And one thing about me, I always handle my business.

OK, so Bobby, what's your prediction? All right, I just think that I am a better boxer than him straight up. And I'm just going to outbox him. But you ain't going to box me. Bobby, you're going to try to rush me. And I got some for that shit. I'm telling you, I got some for that shit, baby boy.

Let me know if he's going to be on the way. I'm going to rush this shit. You don't have a jab. When have you hit it? You ain't hit nobody with no jab. Ain't nobody ruff around hitting nobody with no jab. You got to overhand right. And then you try to grab behind the head

and with the uppercut. Besides that, you ain't got shit, bro. Yeah, well, listen. But a lot of hard. You got a lot of hard. You got a lot of hard. You got a lot of hard. You have a lot of hard.

Fight hard. And all that. I like all that. But everybody going to do that one and the motherfucking fight anybody. If you ain't fighting hard, you don't need to be in that motherfucking with it. All right.

Well, August 27, Friday night, when you're listening to this, it's tonight. Tune in. Pacman Jones, Bobby Lang, go buy the rough and rowdy. BuyRNR.com. Wait, wait, wait. Pacman's entire family has been behind this whole time that he's been talking shit to Bobby Lang.

I love him. See, I don't go nowhere without my family. There you go. Hey, this is a business trip, man. I love it. We're going to be suited and booted and locked and loaded. And we're going to be deep as a motherfucker. Everybody going to be there.

You better believe that. I love it. My company support me at all times. Well, I'm excited. So good luck to both of you. Me too. Have my goddamn money after the fight. Yeah, no.

Make sure you have my money. Make sure you have my money. Matter of fact, we'll talk when we get there. That's what we'll do. OK. Great. I'll be there about an hour and a half at the stadium.

So I see you there. All right, perfect. You'll see me. I got the code on. I'm singing the national anthem. You're going to be moved to tears. Well, I sing it. And then, yeah.

I have your boys five times. It's very angelic. Yes, exactly. Bobby's heard it. So it's going to be a great night. Bobby, Bobby, OK. Bobby heard it five times. He'll hear it five more times, but it

won't be on the fucking winning side. Oh, there we go. All right, boys, thank you so much. We'll see you guys on Friday night. Yes, sir. Let's go. Thanks, guys. Appreciate it.

OK, let's get into our Mount Rushmore. That fight's going to be crazy tonight, by the way. Oh, yes. Go buy it. Ruffin Rowdy 15. Also, I'll be part of the broadcasts on Showtime on Sunday night for Jake Paul, Tyron Woodley. If Pat Jank kills you, how are we split?

Do I get Stella? Sure. OK, sure. Sure, cool. Yeah. Bobby Lang hits so hard, but Pac-Man is just such a freak athlete. It really is a.

It's going to be great. Kelly was. No one knows what's going to happen. Kelly was actually worried for me after that interview. I don't think. I think we're good. I think me and Pac-Man are good. Shout to Kelly.

Unless he loses, then maybe we're not good, because any. Then he's $1,000. Are you going to bring it in a briefcase? I am. I'm going to bring it not in a briefcase. A briefcase full of ones would be nice, though. Oh, that would be a very classy touch. All right, before we get to our Mount Rushmore cross-country

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or refinance. Your current mortgage, cross-country mortgage at LLC, 3029, all loan subject to underwriting approval at www.nmlsconsumeraxis.org. OK. Mount Rushmore of Romcoms. But there are no Judd Apatow movies allowed. Give me an eight.

17. 18. 72. By the way, I went into a free agency today. Picked up memes. Oh, memes. That's a tag team. All right.

So everyone knows part of my memes. He actually is part of the team now. So we're very excited he's been with us for a little bit. 36. What was everyone's picks? I said eight. 17. I said 18.

So you get to decide the order. Memes are you confident in that one one? Welcome memes. Say something in the mic, memes for the people. Hello. All right, nice. That was awesome. Oh, memes.

Well, you guys are deciding. I've got Billy sent me his list if he had done it. So you can't say it now. Yeah, don't say it now. OK, wait. I guarantee you nobody had any of these. That would have been their list. Are you OK?

Yeah. OK. Hank, anything to say about the Mount Rushmore? I'm happy. Yeah, me and Bubba have won the last two by extremely narrow margins. Yeah. I'm proud of us.

Little stat from PMT Stats and Info. We've won five of the last nine Mount Rushmore since then. A third and three fourths in the five previous Mount Rushmores. So. Wow. Crushed it on a hot streak. You guys. What?

Good job. Oh, no. I didn't know if this is where you guys were. We've been throwing it. No, no, no. Not throwing anything. Not throwing anything at all. I don't need to throw anything.

Maybe been throwing it. Maybe. We get a lot of accusations that I'm throwing it because my picks have been bad for the last two weeks. Well, here's a little actually little anecdote. This is a fun little story today. I have been awful and it's time for me to make a change. I've been disappointing myself more than anyone.

So I made a little change in today's picks. Yeah, I was in the office talking to Westy. He works for the sports book. It's kind of like not where we usually sit. It's a little separate side of the office. It's a little by the windows. So if you were walking by, you wouldn't expect me to be their type of thing.

I'm talking to him and I look to my left and I see Rianne Fran walking to go do their show and all of a sudden PFT yells, hey, Rianne Fran, come here. And then I look to my left and they were huddling in. Oh, interesting. It was one of those things where the conversation happened. I saw it all happen. And then PFT after realized I was standing right there

after he asked them for help. But you have no idea what we talked about. It could have been anything. Right. I should also have it on the record that PFT didn't want to have voting this year, so you don't make fun of him if he has bad votes. No, I thought that it was something

that we should discuss at the start of the year, whether or not to have voting. Because we didn't used to have voting, but listen. No, we've always had voting. I've always had voting. I've got my own list. Any comments on picturing picking iceberg for a fictional villain?

Yeah, my iceberg truther. I don't think the iceberg actually existed. I think it would. Got it. No other ship has collapsed at a free fall after running into an iceberg in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean. Look at all.

Yeah, you could also just not care about how the votes finish out. Oh, I actually don't care. But I wanted to do a better showing for myself. Got it. OK, what's the order? Hank's going to lead off, and we'll go this way. All right, let's do it.

Here we go. My rush for a rom-coms. Sorry, Hubba's going to lead off. If you're looking for something. So I'm the only one who's going solo on this. No, I'm going solo. I made my entry. It's Liam and Hank versus Jake and Memes versus me versus

PFT, Glunny Balls, Ria and Fran. Listen, I'm making my own picks. I will stay true to the AWLs. I will just go from what I know. This is a legit list that I came up with. Well, I'm a man of my word. Yeah, no, you're fine. Everyone's making super teams.

I'm only doing this because you asked me. I'm honest now. I'm only picking. I'm doing it the right way. I'm only even involved in this to make you happy. Yeah, that's true. This is really all because of you. And 1-1.

This also is a tough Mount Rushmore. I have not seen a lot of movies. So I'm going to do the same thing I did last time. I'm not going to give you a movie I have not seen. Crazy stupid love. There we go. I don't think I've seen that. I had that on my list.

It's a great movie, obviously with rom-coms. Steve Carell, Ryan Gosling, Emma Stone. It's good. I actually love rom-coms, so go watch it. Kevin Bacon. I have an older sister. Obviously I have dated girls in the past. Usually rom-coms are something that they get thrown on.

You watch begrudgingly. This is one of those movies that's an actual good movie that I watch on my own. And enjoy. OK. Great. Great pick. All right, Memes, you want to make your first career pick?

I don't actually know the movie, but great pick. It's a solid pick. I know. Go to watch it. This is actually, we're doing the AWLs, all AWLs, but especially ones in a relationship, whether male or female. There's nothing better than popping in a rom-com

for a little date night. It's the best. OK, Memes. All right, we're going to go with 10 things I hate about you. Good choice. That's another solid movie. My one. You hate it?

Really? Why do you hate 10 things I hate about you? It's like, well, I don't know. Again, it's one of those things where I've seen it a lot. I don't know if it's because my sister liked it and watched it a lot or whatever. But every time I watched it, I was always like, I don't want to be watching this.

Based on a Shakespeare play. I had fun time. Fun fact. On my list. All right, Othello? No. Emma? Macbeth.

Emma. No, Taming of the Shrew. Taming of the Shrew. OK, my first one is going to be, my one one's still there, The Breakup. OK. I love that movie. Good choice.

Vince Vaughn, Jennifer Aniston. Chicago. You can't get better than that movie. Vince Vaughn at his height, kind of. Like, that was when it was really, Vince Vaughn was crushing. That's one of the most, what happens at the end, though? Do they get back together? We don't know.

As an optimist, I'd like to say they got back together. OK, I've actually got my first two picks that I had before, before consulting. And I think you'll tell by the age of these movies that these are my picks. One, One, When Harry Met Sally. Who directed that? Rob Reiner.

OK. Got it. Was that a test to see if I've seen When Harry Met Sally? No, I can't. I honestly don't know if I've seen that movie. And it was worth it. I get confused by all these movies. It was Rob Reiner's mom that said,

I'll have what she's having. Got it. Number two, Pretty Woman. Pretty Woman now. Great Julia Roberts, Richard Geer. Yeah, I had it on my list. I had it on my list. Big mistake.

Huge. Had it on my list. All right, I'll probably get some pushback with this, but game on. I think Wedding Crashers. That's a rom-com in my mind. That's a bromantic comedy. It's a rom.

It's mostly a story about two bros increasing their roles. It's really, though, the major arc, though, is when Owen Wilson meets the chick, and then the entire movie's about that as a central plot. I will let you use that pick. I will just prompt this question, and you can let me know. Do you think that more males or females like that movie? I think it's, well, Hank, your misogyny is showing a little bit.

I think everyone likes that movie. Like, dudes can't like romantic comedies, Hank? No, they can. I just, you know, let's be honest. To me, a romantic comedy is like, let's call it spade to spade. No, to me, a romantic comedy is there's a relationship that's the central plot point that, like, everything comes off. We're talking about day night.

If a dude is like, let's watch Wedding Crashers, you think the girl is going to be like, fuck yes? Or she's going to be like, this is a bro. This is a bro movie. So maybe it leans one way or the other, but we'll allow, but we'll. If you guys don't want it, we can throw it out. I think it is, but we can throw it out. We can throw it out.

It's all about the debate. We'll let the listeners judge and raise the debate. All right, because I was thinking about it. Again, I haven't seen a ton of movies. I need to see more movies, but I was thinking about it. And Owen Wilson does meet her pretty quickly in the movie. It's within the first 15 minutes. Not after all those fucking.

Yeah, I mean, there's the montage at the beginning, but then after that, that is the fuck. Like even, even Vince Vaughn's side thing is not really, that's not really anything like, you know what I mean? The main driver becomes Owen Wilson not killing himself. And when they go, the real moment of like romcom is when they're on the bikes in the fucking meadow and they're, you know, doing the whole scene.

Yeah, right. Exactly, great scene. All right, we're going to go with 51st dates. OK, good one. Nice. I'm going to go, I'm surprised this one made it this far. Princess Bride. Yeah, all right.

I added on there. Great movie. Another one that's just a fantastic movie start to finish. I have a confession about Princess Bride. Uh-oh, you've never seen it? As you wish. I, I occasionally will quote it and I've never seen it. Wow.

That's inconceivable. I know that one. Nice. Marriage, inconceivable. I do, I do not think you think the word means what it means. You should watch it. It's very good.

Was I am somebody you killed my father prepared to die? Yeah. Yeah, I'm a Nego Montoya. A Nego Montoya. A Nego Montoya. I loved him in Homeland. But yeah, that's, it's, I think everybody out there has a movie like that or some piece of pop culture

that they actually haven't consumed. Yeah, Jurassic Park. I got blasted for that. I've never seen Home Alone. No, but I'm saying like, they all have one like that, that they haven't consumed, but they still quote like they have seen it. Yeah.

Yep. And then I will go with McConaughey, Fools Gold. OK. He's a rom-com staple. Haven't seen it. Yeah. It's a classic. I got a lot of movies I got to watch.

Here's the plot. Matthew McConaughey is searching for buried treasure. Shirtless. And the girl in the movie is trying to get him to take life more seriously, but he's committed to the treasure. And then he starts to commit to taking life more seriously. But then the treasure comes into play.

And Kevin Hart's the bad guy. Whoa. Not very out of his heart. Not very intimidating. Oh, it is. OK. Extremely intimidating. Jake, Memes, James.

We are sports podcasts. So we're going to go with Feverpitch. OK. That's a good one, although I don't. I think I personally like that movie a lot, and I would have always been like, that's a great movie. And then as I'm starting to work in Barcelona and become more of an adult, I've learned that people hate it.

It's like that. It's a bad review, but I still think it's good. I agree with you. I also think, and this isn't me just saying it, because I picked the breakup, but I do think you get bonus points when you pick a rom-com, and then the two characters actually dated in real life afterwards.

Like Jennifer Anderson, Vince Vaughn, Drew Barrymore, and Jimmy Fallon. Out of Banks. Actually started dating. Right. Right. Out of Banks. If we did rom-com shows, that would be number one.

All right. I love this movie. I truly love this movie, High Fidelity. High Fidelity, John Cusack. Never seen it. Really? You should see it. It's very, very good.

Very good movie. Is that an 80s movie? Is it based around the 80s? Is that this one? Yeah, yeah, holding the. No, no, no, no. I think so. No, no, no, no.

For the people listening, I was holding up the. That's not it. He's in the rain in the scene, but no, that's not it. High Fidelity, he like relitigates all his past relationships. And it's based at a record shop, right? Yes. You're thinking of say anything. Yes, yes.

Great band, too. Also John Cusack, right? Yes. Yes. But he is in this. Yeah. High Fidelity is a great movie. I think they made a show about it, but they changed a lot of stuff.

But High Fidelity is a great movie. All right. Last two. I'm going to go how to lose a guy in 10 days. OK. Another McConaughey. I'm surprised that wasn't the first McConaughey taken. Yeah.

McConaughey and Kate Hudson. That's a great movie. I actually went to go see that on Valentine's Day 2003. Wait, the theaters loved it. I thought Kate Hudson was she in both? I think she's in fool's gold. Yeah, I think so. They did it.

I think they had like a trilogy sometimes. Yes. Sometimes, like, if you get that on-screen chemistry, it just works. You got to just roll with it. No, I thought that was Sarah Jessica Parker. No. Oh, no, that's a different one. Yeah, yeah.

That's Sex and the City. No, I'm not going to name it. I won't pick it, but. And then my last one, can't believe this last. This one might actually cause some controversy. Love, actually. I love Love, actually. Why would it cause controversy?

Because I've heard people say that it sucks. Oh. I think Love, actually, is a great movie. That's a good movie. I think it's like the whole Forrest Gump thing, where now people pretend that they don't like Forrest Gump. It's the worst. Love, actually, is an awesome movie.

All right. Good picks, re-infrared. OK, full transparency. I had to say it. I had to say it. They gave me one of those. I used How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days, which I liked anyways. All right.

My last pick. There's some fucking good movies. I'll go Silver Lining's Playbook. I love that movie. Another one about Suisse. You don't think that's a rom-com? Did I win an Oscar? What's the deal with, like, what's the rule that we made

that you can't be a good movie? No, no, you're right. You're right. I'm not. You're right. I don't want to be critical. No, I'm just curious, because I think rom-coms can be very good movies.

I think, yeah. I think, in my personal opinion, this is not. You think rom-coms like her just throw it on and don't? In my personal opinion, this is not the general consensus. And obviously, Princess Bride and, honestly, Crazy Stupid Love don't fit in this category, so I guess I'm contradicting myself. But the best rom-coms are shittier movies.

See, I disagree. I have a couple movies that are also really good movies that are on my list, if it makes it to that. I think the best rom-coms are the ones that, like, actually really, like, are really, really good movies. Yeah, I mean, you're right. Honestly, Princess Bride is one of the best movies ever made, so I'm not.

Like, I love a really good, like, Silver Lining's Playbook. That's a movie I watched. And I was like, that was a great movie. I really enjoyed it. You know what's great about that movie? It's also about learning, you know, more than loving somebody else, loving yourself. Yes.

So it's, like, multidimensional. Yes. I like that movie. I think that could count. That's a little out of the box, but I think it's about a love story. Right. And it's funny.

The central plot is the love story and the eagles. And the eagles. Bounceback, yeah. That's the comedy. And she saves him kind of thing. Those are always nice. You know, when the new love saves him from Sui. Ichiro.

Yeah. Suizuki. All right. James, go ahead. All right, memes. Wrap us up. All right, we're going to go with Jerry Maguire. Oh, OK.

Yeah, I had that on my list. I did, too. You had me at holo. Yeah. Good job. Shut up. It's a good pick. It's a good pick.

Great pick. And I will end Vince Vaughn. I feel like the guy with the Vince Vaughn pick, Couples Retreat. OK. OK. That's a shitty movie. Yes.

Bad Ron Tomatoes, Good Romantic Comedy. Is that one of those ones where he made it just so that he could go hang out in Hawaii for like three months? Yes. I love that. I love when actors reach that point in their career. It's like, not only am I just trying to get the bag, but I'm also just trying to go on vacation while I work.

Yes. All right. So here's the movies that I had that I missed that I think are great movies. The Big Sick. Never saw it. Awesome movie. Go watch it.

Very, very good. Groundhog Day. That one I was like, eh, kind of maybe not of rom-coms. Sci-Fi. I think it would. Yeah, good point. I think it would be a rom-com if it didn't also involve time travel. Right.

So the other one that just came out, I think last year, Palm Springs. That one's good. That's basically a redux of Groundhog Day, which I think that's probably closer to a rom-com. That was a great movie. I like that a lot. Failure to launch was the McConaughey, Sarah Jessica Parker one. Terry Bradshaw's ass.

Yep. And that one. Yep. That's a good one. I had Sleepless in Seattle. Also, the sequel, You've Got Mail. Yep. Hitch.

Yep. 500 Days of Summer. Hitch is a good one. Hitch is a great one. Bridget Jones Diary. Yep. Clueless. So I thought about Clueless.

Clueless. Isn't it like Half-Brother or Half-Brother? That one, yeah. So she ends up making out with Paul Rudd, who's a step-brother. Yes. That's also based on Shakespeare play. That's a fellow, I think. That's, that's Emma.

That's Emma. Yeah. Along came Polly. Yep. What about, there's something about Mary. Yep. I don't think it can be a rom-com if there's jizz. What?

If you can, if they show come, it's not romantic anymore. That's just a sex, it's a sex rom. Yeah, no, there's something about Mary. There's something about Mary. It is funny. I was thinking about it. That was less of a rom-com to me than wedding crashers. That's why I kept it off.

But I put it down on my list. 13 going on 30. Love that one. If I, if I ran on a pick, I was going to throw a pirate to the Caribbean. I don't know. Stagnati's Revenge? No.

Oh. That's just rom. Yeah. Just rom. It's hardcore rom. Lovin' basketball. That's not a comedy. Just a romance.

What about, is Bridesmaids? Yeah. Are they a rom-com? That might be a Jap-tow. No, I don't think it's a Jap-tow. Is, so is Bridesmaids, I would say that Bridesmaids is less of a romantic comedy than wedding crashers. I agree.

That's why I kept it off. Like, I wrote it down, but I wasn't going to, I knew I probably wasn't going to get to it. Because that's about chicks, and they're really, it's a romantic comedy. Kristen Wiig's relationship is, it's not the central plot. Yeah. Yeah, it happens.

It's more about, like, yes, Kristen Wiig's learning how to deal with toxic friends, connecting with good friends. Correct, correct. Yep. Let's see. I think that's, oh yeah, Billy's Picks. You want to hear Billy's Picks? Yes.

So I asked Billy what his picks would have been if he had done this one, and he said, Sahara. OK, Rambo for me. No, that's McConaughey, I think. Is it? Sahara? I think so. I think anything with McConaughey,

pre, like, whatever it was, when he had AIDS, is, like, considered a romantic comedy. No, the movie. Oh. Dallas Buyer saved. What? Yeah, Grease. Grease is actually not a bad choice.

OK. Project X, and Debbie does Dallas. He put that one in. All right, good job, Billy. Good job, Billy. All right, let's wrap up. We got Firefest of the Week. Monday we have Kirk Herbstried on.

Great interview with him. Little college football getting ready to go. Week zero is this week. Hank, you want to go with Firefest? Sure, so this is kind of a continuation of my Firefest last week when I mentioned I lost PFC's charger. It was a nice charger, a six-foot charger. So I went and I went to reimburse the charger.

And at the Apple store, they were like, we don't have the six-foot charger you asked for. We only have these small ones. And so I got him a two-foot charger. And when I thought was a three-foot charger, so it was like five feet total. Cumulative five-feet charger. I didn't want to be that guy that reimbursed something

less than what I would lost, so I felt like getting him a two-foot charger wouldn't have counted. Then PFT tweeted a picture giving me credit. And I realized that it wasn't three feet. It was three meters, so it was nine feet. So I really got him 11 feet worth of chargers. And I could have just given him one charger and taken the other one for myself or not paid for two.

Right. Do you want the other charger back? No, no, no, no, no. But. Are you sure? It was once, it was just a little bit of a firefighter. I was like, I did obviously chargers at the Apple store, kind of expensive.

And I was like, but I didn't want to be that guy. Went the extra mile and then realized after the fact, I didn't have to. Love it. Not to be the guy that looks a reimbursement horse in the mouth. But I happened to notice when I looked at those chargers, I think they're both the type of adapter

that goes like into a new Apple computer. That's the one you gave me. OK, yeah, no, that's right. Yeah, thank you for the chargers, Hank. I appreciate the extra. That was the type of charger that you gave to me, no? No, but here's what'll make you feel better about it. It was USB.

It was USB to iPhone. No, no, it wasn't. Oh, no. Pity's still high from Benny the Butcher. So that's what it was, but. No, it wasn't. On the bright side. It actually was not.

You plugged it into my laptop. I remember. Facts. Uh-oh. Thank you, bud. That one? Yeah. When?

On the bus. Uh-oh. I don't recall that. I do not recall. I do not recall. But I was going to say that charger was just one that you might have even left at my house at the beach house. So you might have lost your own charger

that I inherited from you and then gave to you which you lost. And then I gave you 11 feet back. This is just what that is. 11 feet, damn. OK, PFT. My firefest of the week, well, I got two. The first is I drank MCT coffee today this morning, which is like bulletproof coffee.

I don't know what it is, but it sounded badass. So I ordered it. And it's been, I've been having to check if that makes sense every time I fart. Just to make sure, because apparently one of the side effects of it is you just crap yourself uncontrollable. That's how you know it's good coffee. That's how you know that the coffee is working.

So I've been having to check. Haven't crap myself, but it has made me fart a lot. But this is more so it's just like I've reached a week into my new diet. And in my new diet, I've been exercising a lot. But the problem with that is this is what happens every time you start a new diet. You exercise too much.

And then your body is like, fuck you. What are you doing to me? You haven't taken me out for more than like a five mile per hour walk in six months. And now you're running on me. So now my legs hurt. And I've got bone bruises. And I've got like strained muscles.

And I'm shitting myself because I went from zero to 60 in my new diet. I think you're hitting the cycle. Maybe. Maybe. So I'll let you know. They just did like an ESPN game check into PFT as he poops himself.

My body is doing a man can do it all stress test right now. It's tough. It's tough. My other firefests is that I'm I've almost reached the point where I can I can admit that Dwayne Haskins is going to be a very good quarterback. So he's getting I think. No, he's not.

I think I think you're good. I think he's getting all the snaps for the steal. He's looked so good in the preseason. Yeah, he's not. But I don't know. He's not one of those things where I'll be like I've done this before. No, he's not.

Hold strong. Who have you thought about Hank? He's not. Dwayne Haskins. I was like on the train. No, he's not. Last year or two years ago. No, no, no.

But I mean like for me, it's painful because it's a player that you got rid of. Yeah. No, he's not. Don't worry. I'm telling you sure. Yes. Trust me.

No, because he's looked good. Yep. That doesn't matter. OK. Yeah, you're good. I'm still nervous about it. You're good. All right.

I got kind of a real fire fest. Sorry to bum everyone out. But I did get triggered yesterday. Had been a long time since I got triggered online. And I had a little introspection because if you missed it, we skipped over Jake's stress test on Tuesday for time. And then people were complaining on Twitter and I was like fuck this, whatever.

I got triggered. And I admit it. But I had a little introspection. And I realized that the passing of Jimmy Hayes had affected me a little bit more than I let on. Not saying that I was best friends with Jimmy Hayes, probably hung out a few times. Great guy.

But the fact that his kids were the exact same age as my kids kind of fucked me up. So weird week. But it was like a thing that I didn't really, I don't know. I kind of pushed it down. And then last night I was like, this is actually really fucking me up as I was putting my son to bed. So I apologize for getting triggered.

But yeah, I think it's more the messages. It's OK sometimes to look into yourself and be like, hey, why am I short tempered? And why am I off? So that was my fire first. Sorry for making it real. I think it's OK to not be OK. Yeah.

Talking. No, I joke about that all the time. But I do think like there's, you know, to just kind of look and be like, hey, why did I fly off the handle here? Oh, this might be because I'm suppressing these emotions. It was a very big moment for me. There you go. Breakthrough.

Talking about it out loud helps. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that shit fucked me up. I'm doing better today. But yeah. All right, sorry, Jake. That's a terrible thing.

Let me know if you want a mushroom. I'm good. I don't need any mushrooms. Yeah. So heading to Long Island this weekend was packing my bag and the zipper rook. There it is. That's pretty simple.

That's pretty simple. It's pretty simple. Herbal follow-up. Jake, are you OK? I spent all week thinking about what if I tragically died and my kids never got to spend many more time with me. Are you all right, Jake? Your zipper broke, though.

No, not Jake. Jake. It's a safe space to talk about this sort of thing. Do you have a backup? I feel bad now. That was so good. No, don't feel bad. Come on.

You know, I don't feel bad. Shame Billy's not here to give you one of his giant backpacks. That was so perfect. As guys, we don't talk about it sometimes when our luggage breaks. We're so perfect. The time that we're little boys, like that's not the girls talk about their bags.

And girls talk about always needing a new bag and getting a bag from you. But guys, we don't we don't express that. So do you have a backup? Yeah. OK, good. Good. We're OK.

That was close. Not important in the grand scheme of things. Yeah. Yeah. So memes. Memes. All right, I'm up. Mime was going to be.

Wait, did you mean to say that out loud? Or was that you talking to yourself? That was me talking to myself. All right, memes, you got this. So Mime was going to be something about Nick Cassiano photoshops. Yeah, you did. You're addicted. You're addicted.

I think it's time for an intervention to your Nick Cassiano. We had this conversation last week at the end of Great Week. We're like, memes is awesome. He works his ass off. Very funny guy. He might be addicted to Nick Cassiano's photoshops. I did.

And well, I am. And he just hit a home run. Oh, no. It was perfect timing. Oh, as Big Cat was saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This is the serious part. Yeah. So the guy just has great timing. Yeah. And that's it? That's it. What about? What about the coaches?

Wait, you didn't say that you're going to fix it. Oh, no. No, no, no, no. All right, that's the first step. You admitted it. The pie chart of memes' brain is like memes. Nick Cassiano's, so 90% of it. Let me ask you a question.

Do you have an alert set up on any sort of device that you own that tells you when Nick Cassiano's is up to bat? No, I just have the MLB home runs. I have that. You get the home run truck. I have that on alerts too. It's the best. For him and Yellich, who's not very close to it.

No. To Tony. No. Not even close to close. Somebody should start a Twitter account that's just posting Nick Cassiano's home runs. And then people can follow that and then see it on their timeline when it pops up.

And then if it's next to a tragedy, they can take a screenshot and get a bunch of retweets on it. Just an idea. That'd be good. All right, numbers. 99. Memes? Oh, you have a fact?

I did look one up. Kangaroos can't fart. Whoa. That sounds like a Billy fact. It does. That is Jake. What is it? What does that sound like?

No. What do you mean? It's Cap. Jake, that's Cap. I thought we put that to rest. No, you haven't tried. Don't make PFTs say it. All right.

I don't want to say it anymore. All right, it's Cap. Thank you. All right. 89. 81. 8. 69.

55. There you go, memes. That'd be a really funny bit right now. Oh, I'm rooting for it. I'm rooting for it. 95. 95. All right, we'll see you guys Monday.

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