Pardon My Take - Aaron Rodgers, Grit Week 2022 + Mt Rushmore Of NFL Coaches You Want On Your Side In A Fight

Episode Date: August 8, 2022

We got him. Aaron Rodgers on the pod. Welcome to Grit Week 2022. The boys are in Colorado dealing with oxygen deprivation and catch up on travels and Pete Rose having himself a day (00;03;33-00;17;29). Who’s back of the week (00;17;29-00;34;15). 4X MVP and possibly one time felon Aaron Rodgers joins the show live from Green Bay, we talk about how he should be in prison, the time he almost quit football before college, his tormenting of Big Cat, the “I fucking own you” moment, playoff failures and smashing the Bears every year and tons more (00;34;15-01;26;03). We finish with Mt Rushmore of NFL Coaches you’d want on your team if you were in a fight (01;26;03-01;49;58).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part in my take, Aaron Rodgers. We got him. Going to jail. Ladies and gentlemen, we got him.

We got him. We got him. That was what I was putting on tweeting when we have yet to post the video. Aaron Rodgers has been caught and compromised to the fullest extent. We got him. We flew to Green Bay, a covert operation,

kept it under wraps. This was on Tuesday, and we got Aaron Rodgers. Great interview. Went into it being like, can't let him win me with kindness. I feel like I held my ground, but I guess we'll see. We are on Great Week. We're in Colorado. We're dealing with the high altitude.

It's awesome. It's going to be a great week because we have a lot of awesome stuff planned. We're going to do Who's Back. We're going to do Mount Rushmore of NFL coaches. We want on our side in a fight. And on our Great Week, Dan Campbell wearing his grit hat. And it is all brought to you by our great, great friends.

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The greatest beer ever created We are in Colorado, Coors Light We love you Today is Monday, August 8th And welcome to Grit Week Hey big cat Let's ride Let's ride Broncos Country

Let's ride Let's ride Let's Broncos Country Let's ride Let's ride There were some people who thought that today's interview was gonna be Russ Wilson And it was that people were very upset about that But I'm saying let's ride

Let's fucking ride today We're hitting the south this Grit Week Yes, we're in the southernmost state According to Paul Bissonette Yeah, Grit Week, seventh year Grit Week, 2022 We're very excited We got some awesome stuff planned

We're gonna make some trips all around The lovely state of Colorado The Sunshine State Is that what it is? Yeah, Dumb and Dumber Oh yeah, good call We're in the Rockies How many times are we gonna say that?

Extra high Somebody sent me something on Twitter earlier And said, hey, in case you guys are having an issue dealing with the altitude Apparently Viagra helps that Oh So Shout out to Buddha Ben Shout out to Grit Week

Yeah, it reminded me of year one We met Richie and Cognito And we decided to play a game called Viagra Falls Yes Because we were up in Buffalo Where we just took like a bunch of pills that were like gas station supplements Or like vitamins But one of them was Viagra

And none of us knew who got to Viagra We didn't get boners though Well, because Hank also threw up right after So we think it might have been him Remember? It was Hank had to get the black water Yeah, the gray water I think it's both

Out of the bus And he puked right away Right after we had done it But yeah, this is It's crazy A little bit different setup than that Yeah, well we should say too We are in the beautiful Ameristar

Our hotel in Black Hawk, Colorado Come visit it It's incredible So thank you to Penn Penn Entertainment Do you guys see the change? Huge Yeah

New logo I love that New logo and everything We're expanding Yeah, Penn Entertainment They've been taking great care of us We're only here for tonight We're then going to get a little grittier

Maybe a night in the bus Well they did put a mad dog in my room Which I really appreciate I feel like that's one of those things Icing hasn't been hot for a while But that's the equivalent of icing me when I see it I haven't drank a mad dog in probably a couple years And I feel like once you hit your mid-thirties

You should probably not be drinking gas station wine anymore However, if it's put in front of me I feel like it would be impolite of me to not drink it And it will go brazy up in the altitude It will go brazy Absolutely The Zins go brazy in the altitude They do

The two nicest hotels I've ever stayed at in my life By far are the Ameristar here And the Lake Charles place we stayed at Both Penn properties The best part about when we stay at a Penn property They obviously give us a bunch of nice stuff When we show up Snacks and everything

And they personalize them Like you got a mad dog Billy got corn And then every time I go to my room It's just the most amount of candy possible So it's just such a subtle like You're a fat ass And obviously I walked in

I just had a Twix bar And some gummy bears instantly It worked I didn't turn it down It does hurt a little bit inside Yeah, no, the candy is a nice touch The candy apparently also helps with the altitude sickness Yes

That's what I've been told Just fill up on candy Alright, so grit week, 2022 Aaron Rodgers incredible interview coming up I can't believe we got him Can I just say that I think I like him? I do not I do

I like him I was nervous about the interview Not because we've done a million interviews It was that I knew he was going to try to win me with kindness He did try to win me with kindness And there was a moment where I kind of liked him But I think I hate him now again The only reason I kind of hate him

Is because the podcast about ayahuasca Dropped the day after we visited him So we couldn't talk about that I made a joke about ayahuasca to him And he kind of admitted that he took it And then I thought later I was like, wait did Aaron Rodgers just admit on part of my take That he took ayahuasca

That's going to be huge And then fucking undercut us like a motherfucker Trying his whole life with ayahuasca That makes me like him a little bit less It was good This was a long time coming for sure One of the white whales That we have on part of my take

And the white whales are dying at an alarming rate We're running out of white whales We got to restock I was thinking about it Because we were talking about it after What are the white whales Kevin Durant's still there Bill Belichick

Tom Tom Which Tom Oh, there's Tommy Smokes I mean he's a reality show king Thanks I think James is a white whale I'll throw him in there

James James would be so much fun He would be fun He's not the biggest whale out there No, but he's maybe a baby white whale Like a smaller white whale He's a calf Yeah, right, exactly

He's just swimming, yeah Who else would there be? LeBron Yeah, LeBron definitely He's probably going to come on soon I want to interview Pete Carroll Yeah, Pete Carroll's up there We still got some work to do

But this was a good one Alright, so what else? There hasn't been a lot going on in sports Other than Did you guys see Daniel Vogelback Running around the bases today It was majestic Yeah

And the Mets are The Mets are as hot as possible And the Yankees are completely dying Which hurts the Subway series Hopes of everyone I think the Yankees will be just fine They're bad if it's going to improve They're bad right now

They're really bad right now What are you going to say, Jake? They still have 70 wins They suck They're slumping right now But as a pinstripe Let me put on my pinstripe den hat right now They suck

Blow up the team They won't even make the playoffs It's been the same team five years in a row Yeah That's true Don't look now I was in some replies earlier I just saw people saying that

So the Yankees are falling apart So Big Cat, your pick of the Mariners To win the World Series That was my pre-season pick Pre-season pick They're still in it My pre-season pick from the NL Is coming on strong right now

The Phillies Yes The Phillies are fucking good And when Batgirl's doing He's editing some stuff right now So he can't speak to it But he was just like I think someone

When we got on the plane Was like, Phillies look good He's like, dude, Schwabber And a little part of me died It really hurt when he said that And it's all of us, too All of us You got a taste?

I got a taste last year That's for life It's still whatever I don't want to start getting Spummed out about the cops That's what happens When Bryce Harper stops playing For your team

You accomplish big things Yeah You'll be back Ready to mash soon So yeah, the Phillies Yeah, you got I mean, EPL started Who cares?

I care a little bit I can't It's just good to have Sports on in the morning When you wake up That's the only thing It's like the NFL game in London No, it doesn't end before

It's the longest season No, they take a break They take a break Yeah It also What's that eye roll for? You think that they shouldn't take a break? You think all the best players

In the world should just Why did you eye roll? Or just figure out a season That isn't going to interfere Like with the world Well, usually it doesn't The World Cup doesn't, yeah Yeah, it's because

We decided to play World Cup In the fucking desert It's because the slaves Didn't meet the deadline In Qatar And so they had to push it back Air conditioning costs too much In the middle of August

In Qatar Yeah, so I I mean, I care But like, not the first game And also it's all on Peacock now Which is that extra step That's going to like kill My ability to just turn it on

That's really Do the extra step It's like, all right You know what, I'll find something else I mean, cards on the table Are the only weekend That I care about EPL Because it's the first one

Where I'm like, oh, it's back I missed this And then I'm going to Completely forget about it Yeah, okay, so that was big I had one other story I was talking soccer That was talking soccer

I had one other story Before we do Who's Back PFT, I read this quote to everyone Before you got in the room Did you see Pete Rose today? I did Was honored for the 1980 World Series for the Phillies

Did you see a reporter asked So a reporter asked Pete Rose A female reporter asked Pete Rose About the allegations That he had sex with the minor Back in like 1970s And he replied

No, I'm not here to talk about that Sorry about that It was 55 years ago, babe Yeah, the babe at the end Is just I mean, what else would you Expect from Pete Rose? Yeah, he also apologized

For that after And he said Will you forgive me If I sign 1,000 baseballs For you Did he really say that? Pete Rose still the only guest That has requested us pay him

Correct To come on to part of my take He also also went on the broadcast And I think they're probably Regretting having him on the broadcast Because this was just I'm gonna pull up real quick A quick snippet of him

On the broadcast This is the Phillies broadcast He joined them in the booth I hit a cockey fastball And Joe didn't know what to say Joe said No shit All the broadcasts

Talking about hitting cockey fastballs I mean, this is what You're not gonna expect Like an eloquent response From Pete Rose about anything He's just gonna be like Do you have money for me? Yes, right

I still gamble heavily How many balls can I sign For the max amount of money? Yeah, that's all I need How many baseballs can I sign To get myself out of the Statutory rape charge? Yes, he was probably pissed

That he had to go to Philly You know, Saratoga's running Del Mar Like, he probably Wanted to watch the horses I would expect that Pete Rose's Answer to a question like that Would be, well, how old is she now? Like, 55?

Yeah, oh, no, he said The other part was He's like, you weren't even born yet You shouldn't care about things That you weren't born for Hank somehow agreed Hank's like, you know World War II was a complicated conflict

I was around We weren't alive for it We didn't get to hear both sides Okay? There's a lot of nuance there Just about Any other stories? I mean, this is the lull

Of training camp, right? I feel like this was the weekend That every team had their family night Or like, you know, fans got to show up Take a video of one player getting cooked Yeah, one awesome play And be like, yeah, look at our teams Gonna be awesome

This is when they need to do Bark at the ballpark Where they have all the dogs invited Every team, it should actually be a night Across baseball The dog should be on the field Dog night, yeah Yeah, on the field

Let him run, let him take shits everywhere Michael Vick is like, damn You guys came up with this A little too late for me Yeah, so I The only other news that's out there is Deshaun Watson's suspension being appealed And Goodell designated

His assigned, like, hearer Of the suspension Who's definitely just gonna do Whatever Roger Goodell asked him to do So that's probably gonna happen Next week at some point Yes That's about it

I just think him and Brittany Griner Should trade punishments Yeah, that one guy Yeah, Brittany Griner did get her Was it Friday that she got nine years? Yeah, like six weeks? Okay, that makes sense That makes sense

Yeah, six weeks seems reasonable for her I also, like My content brain, Brittany Griner Should be freed She should be back home It's fucking ridiculous But I was thinking that, like If Batgirl does something bad

And we do a free Batgirl hashtag We get a little cross-pollination So free BG That would be good She's like, well, we're talking about our Batgirl Not Brittany Griner But she should be freed It depends on who arrests Batgirl

If they have somebody that we want to get back In exchange Yeah Because that's what's going on With Brittany Griner right now She got the big sentence Which was like ten years Because she couldn't be traded back

Until she was sentenced Correct And now they've got her for ten years So it's a lot of leverage And now Putin's asking for, like The God of War Yeah, it's a merchant of war Merchant of death

He's an arms dealer There's actually people now Grading the trade People are like, this isn't a fair trade No, I ran into the ESPN simulator Yeah It's like, we gotta at least get some cap space back This is bullshit

Billy, what were you gonna say? There was a crazy viral video Of Jordan Davis Absolutely blowing up It was so remarkable to see A guy like that get pushed back ten yards Yeah, I mean, Jordan Davis is Jordan Davis is, like

Every time I see a picture of him He looks so young And he's so big Yeah And he's so fucking How do you look running to the sideline, Billy? That's the big question Yeah, that is a big question

Did he have stamina? Yeah I didn't see him hustle back after the play And also I was just gonna say that with Jordan Davis That was the pick of the draft They were actually I'm gonna put it in the same category

As the Ravens When they just get great players that fall to them Yes When the Eagles picked him I was like, why is he still on the board? Why did they get him? Yes And I did make a future bet on the Eagles and Ravens

Which is probably stupid Because it's based solely on the draft Yeah But whatever Yeah, that might be a better thing to do Like two years from now Yeah, whatever I mean, that's okay

There are opportunities now Billy, did you see Zach Wilson Catching a ball with one hand too? Yeah That's pretty cool for the Jets That everyone's getting excited about their quarterback Catching a ball He did with his tips

I know And everyone's like, holy shit, Zach Wilson Beast mode It's like, but he He's gotta throw it Yeah, Brady can't do it Superman catches bullets the same way Yeah

But again He's gotta throw it Not catch it Who cares? If he does like a Brett Farve And throws and catches his own interception He'll be in good spot He had an amazing last day at camp

Oh, great He had zero incompletions Wow How many, how many completions? I think 15 for 15 Oh, I was hoping you were gonna be like four Well, those are always the best stat lines Come out of training camps

When it's like, okay, yeah A ball didn't touch the ground Yeah Yeah, probably because he was going up Against a second team defense I would imagine And they're all scripted plays And the defense has, like

Maybe he doesn't even know They're doing The most impressive thing that I saw Was earlier today Out of the chief's training camp Their safety Their safety kicked a 65-yard field goal What?

Oh That was your who's back Sorry, Hank I've got several So I can give Hank one Alright, let's get back Let's get to our who's back Who's back of the week

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All right, Hank Awesome, my who's back Was actually Cody Parky Oh Because Justin Reid Hit a 65-yard field goal And then just in classic ricochet NFL fan form

All the replies were just like No one showed this to bear fans No one showed this to bear fans No one showed this to bear fans So that was like That seems like a long time ago But it's still one of those things No, anytime a doink happens

You never know But not even a doink It was just a double doink It was a crazy long field goal Yeah, I mean What you need to have happen Is somebody to miss a field goal In more spectacular fashion

Probably won't happen Right now that's the most Heart-breaking field goal That we have in recent memory So until somebody fucks it up worse Then that's just What we're going to go with Yes

My other who's back is the Choco Taco Oh, good who's back, Hank Yeah Thanks They said they're bringing it back They just heard Stay woke Yes

They went morbid time They went morbid time That was an ingenious move back Choco Taco's going morbid They just reminded everyone The Choco Taco rules Yeah And then everyone was like

Like pretending to pull it away Please no, please don't take away My beloved Choco Taco Right It's all I have going for me In this shitty life And now all you'll think about When you see the Choco Taco

You're like I gotta get it Before it runs out You never know Right They should just announce That they're discontinuing it And then just never do anything to it

And have it just Constantly being stocked The same amount that it is right now Yeah But it'll just fly off the shelves We're discontinuing Billy Backing on part of my take No, that's real though

We're discontinuing part of my take This is the last episode I've ever We're retiring Thank you guys for listening To the last episode If we ever got around to this The last seven years

Yeah, we did It's meant a lot I said, yeah If we get Aaron Rodgers on this show I'll never do another podcast Someone's gonna write an article And they're gonna think it's real No, this is real

Yeah We're quitting Glass beagle We're on with it Yeah All right Your who's back Well, Hank stole mine with Choco Taco

My other who's back in the week is Earth Earth is back There was an article that came out last Friday That said that the Earth is now spinning faster Than it has before Whoa So, specifically on June 29th Midnight arrived 1.59 milliseconds sooner

Than expected So it's spinning up It's going faster than it has before Don't know what that's all about It doesn't sound good No It's gonna fuck up technology That sounds bad

It is gonna fuck up technology Like Y2K all over again? Actually, though I was gonna say it's like the Houston Astros 2020 season all over again Yes Get Trevor Bauer on the case Figure out what's going on with the spin rate

This is a problem Yeah, maybe we just have too much Spider-Tac on the ozone layer right now I know I don't know if this was hand timed Or electronically timed Like, there's some nerd This is one of those things

That I didn't even know that we kept track of As the human race But apparently There's some scientist somewhere in a mountain That checks at the end of every day How long the day was What does he just see How fast it is for him to get back

To the exact same point? Yeah, I guess so That's probably how you do it But it's a great excuse for anyone Who's running late for something You just put Sorry, the Earth sped up Not my fault

You put a balloon in the air And wait until you get back to it Yeah, that's probably what it is Exactly what it is I respect science But scientists have some of the biggest Rockets going Oh, they could say anything

And everyone would be like, Holy shit, that's crazy Yeah Like climate change, right, Hank? Climate change? And no, we were talking about it No, no I want to hear

I want to hear an example Of another racket That scientists have going on The people that do the fucking Star is like 2,000 years ahead Look at these super close images We got Yeah, anytime you take a picture

There's 100 galaxies Like the one that came out last week We were talking about You're talking about Astronomers No, someone found a picture Of a rug that looked exactly like it It used to be a picture of a rug

Yeah, and it's like Like a doctor's office What do they do? Scientists What is that knowledge going to help us with? I don't know Find us aliens It means next time we'll have

Like a slightly clearer picture Of those rocks Right, and what? They're 2,000 years behind us Like sweet It's a little bit further than that I think it's probably like 50 million Yeah

Maybe a couple billion years It's just mind blowing All of it Yeah How does that help society? Well, this is what happens to Hank When he hears something that's so Like enormous

And the magnitude of it Is too hard to comprehend That your brain goes into fight-or-flight mode And you're just like, no, fuck you Yeah Scientists and options Yeah What do they do?

Yeah The spin rate stuff makes sense Like that's a real problem If there's two things that Hank Absolutely knows nothing about It's geological time and vaginas Well, no, object is like I get it

Just abstract theories to him I don't, I don't Whatever Why would I know what an object was back then? I do now All right, my who's back is us, PMT We're back Grit week, we're back

And also, we're back because I, you know, every now and then We get a couple tweets here and there Where people are like, oh You guys are recycling guests Or you don't have, you know, new guests We, you know, will obviously Had Aaron on the bus on Friday

So we had a few people being like PMT could never I just want to remind you We've been doing this for seven years We do three episodes a week We have three guests a week Sometimes you got to slap everyone around Be like, just shut up

Okay, I got it Just still got it We know what we're doing I know that, like, people want to pretend That, like, we don't know what we're doing Whatsoever Here's the best way to put it I, when people might think

Like, we don't care I spent the majority of July Being nice to Aaron Rodgers Via text message trying to get this interview I had to suck up so much shit Being like, haha, Aaron Yeah, like, we should do an interview It was torture for me

And I was doing it for the AWL So next time you're like, oh You guys don't, you don't have it anymore Like, you know, I need more of this guest Don't worry We're always working on it We're always working on new guests New people

Again, show me a podcast that does Three interviews a week For seven years There are none We're like swans We look like everything's going smooth Above the surface But you get under that water

And you just see feet just kicking, kicking, kicking Dude It's, we're always kicking I'm gonna look up how many times I had to fucking say Haha to him It's fucking Liking messages and shit Dude, I had to do

And I had to suck up my pride Cause there was multiple times Where he was probably doing ayahuasca And I had to, I texted later It was like six blue bubbles in a row And I was just like, this fucking sucks Cause I'm just, and I even, we even We're gonna try to go to Austin to interview him

And at one point we had it planned And I was thinking the whole time in the back of my head Like, he's just gonna set me up Like, we're gonna go down there He's just not even gonna be there I would actually, I would have respected that A lot If he had just pranked us

If he pulled an Evander Holyfield on us He just fucking, he dominated me If he attacks, I did it for the AWL So next time you think you want to go on the Twitter machine And be like, you guys suck You don't have your fastball Just remember, I'm probably Completely emasculating myself

To some guest for you You think I want to be emasculated by Kevin Durant? Every day? The last couple weeks You've been working hard on Aaron Rodgers And you gave me your first class seat Yes Like, this has been an all time week for you

Which, now that we've, now that we went on the plane I don't, I regret it so much Hank, Hank saw me squeezed into this seat And I was like 26F And Hank just was laughing in my face Cause I was, it was As Hank said, I have size issues I did not fit in this seat

And the worst thing that ever happened Can happen on a plane, I guess a plane crash But the second worst thing that can ever happen on a plane It really happens on the ground Not on a plane though Falling asleep on a plane And waking up And you haven't even taken off

The fucking worst I took like a nice 20 minute snooze Woke up and I was like, wait We're still in fucking New York What the hell Did you think you landed for a second? For a brief second I was like, yes, I did it I didn't really mind it that much

Cause I just had, I do glasses of champagne I kicked my feet back a little bit It reclined, it was, it was lovely up there Now, if you're saying, hey PFT Why did you sit first class? It's a grit week Well first of all, it wasn't my choice Big Cat forced it upon me

Second, I tried to give it back to Big Cat When we boarded the plane today And Big Cat was like, no, no, you take it And kept walking through the aisle And then I said, well I'm going to give it to Hank If you don't take it And then Big Cat stopped He was like, wait

Don't, because he sleeps the whole time And that's like, we'll split halfway through And then PFT on a four hour flight Texted me with 30 minutes left You want to split? Every time the story gets told It was an hour left I did fall asleep on the flight

You could have texted me by the way In my defense, in my defense It was the grittiest first class seat possible Because it was the very front row No TVs No TVs I had to put my backpack up in an overhead storage bin So it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows up there

The second glass of champagne was slightly small They kind of shorted me on that board And then the dinner was a little salty Yeah, I saw them walking the dinner back by all of us Like in the tray I was like, fuck, I really shouldn't do that The flight attendants absolutely hate you guys They hate everyone that's not sitting in first class

Like open disdain Even if you had texted me 30 minutes after takeoff To be like, let's switch I wouldn't have been able to Because I was that wedged into my seat It would have taken so long for me to get out You know what I really wanted to have happened Is I should have texted you like an hour in

Chances are you'd probably say No, no, I don't want anymore Just so that you can still have that card on me But if you had tried to take it And gotten up to the front And then taken my seat And then the flight attendant kicks you out Then like, no, you can't do it

That's what I wanted I wanted to get to sit down And then get kicked out of first class I'm happy because I made it here And the next time there's only one first class ticket I will take it No, thank you I'd like to give you that ticket next time

Thank you Alright, Billy, your who's back My who's back is food challenges I am coming out of retirement Yes It's finally been a long enough time Since I think it was the cheeseburger incident Where like I'm ready to do it again

And I don't remember how sick it made me feel So I'm going in this 1,000% So how many are you doing? I think as many as we can do Three, four, five Some are saying that the real food challenge Is doing five I know, depending on our schedule

I think we can do three So I got three spots I think three So you've already failed the five food challenge Well, I never... Yeah, so I'm hyped It's going to be exciting I've been, you know, tonight's a big prep night for me

So I'm going to have to be eating a lot I'm actually taking these very seriously Billy, I'm very excited Because I love watching you compete And get bodied by food It's the best It's so much fun I think I might pick up a dove

Oh, that's what I told you Remember when this all started I was like, Billy, this is great content Because chances are you're going to get Continually get bodied But when you do win one People are going to be so pumped I mean, I might fail the first two

But those will help me to the third Correct And it's like... I'm also interested to know what you're doing To train tonight You said that you're already putting in work I want to know what that looks like Well, stomach expansion is a big one

This past week I've been eating a lot Nice I've been chugging water Yeah, me too I'm going to be really good at this food challenge also Did you see the 19-ounce burrito? Yes Did you see how long you have?

The timing is going to be hard Two minutes 19 ounces? Two minutes But it's not... 19 ounces isn't that big Two minutes is tough That's just two minutes

That's a little bit over like a beer can Yeah, but it's two minutes Just look at your jaw like a snake I ate a filly... I ate one of our part of my cheese steaks In one minute Oh, nice That's pretty good

Yeah, so... Well, you do deep throat, actually Yeah It was a minute and 12 seconds No gag reflex on our boy Is it a 6-inch or a 12-inch? 6-inch Oh, yeah, it's just...

Okay, well, that's an average size cheese steak Good journalist question there, Jake Because that was... We just glossed over that fact I thought I could get away with it But I'm absolutely pigging out tonight Okay That's how you get prepared

That's how you get prepared Yeah, I'm going Love it All right, Jake, you're who's back And then we'll get to Aaron Rodgers My who's back? The water dogs These guys are on fire right now

Yeah, they are They started at 0-3 They have won 5 straight at 5-3 I owe them a apology Oh, you know what? I'll do it right now Me and just send this to them Water dogs, I apologize

For absolutely nothing You fucking suck You're going to continue to suck You're not going to win shit I know that You're on a nice little winning streak You probably played the worst teams in the league Once you get to the playoffs

You're going to fucking suck And I'm going to laugh at you Yeah There's my apology Send that to them I think I creeped them out a little bit On Saturday Because I tried to motivate them

And I wanted them to get some interaction online So I said You put peanut butter on your balls? No, I said I said that if they didn't win I would poison one bag of dog food Somewhere on the eastern seaboard And then, like, I kind of joke

Well, I am joking about that I hope But they don't They're a very brand safe Twitter account sometimes So they see that And they're like, oh my I don't know what to do with this information About this podcast

Or threatening to kill a dog if we don't win Fortunately, they did win an overtime There was a switch Some The water dog switched whoever runs that account Because last year They were like They were like our subs

We were our dom Like, we just made fun of them They took it and they loved it This year, it feels like they don't really like The fact that we make fun of them constantly I got a text from somebody that works Yeah, I'm gonna check it in for the day Being like

Yeah, fuck One of these guys tweeting again I got a text from somebody that works at the PLL Being like Hey, just so you know I think the person that runs that Twitter account Is a little freaked out by your tweet I was like, don't worry

I'm not actually gonna kill a dog If they win Yeah They're also, by the way, the PLL has Did you see their throwback? We need those We need the throwback jerseys It's obviously there's, you know

To last year Yeah, it's what it would have been If they played the PLL It existed in the 1980s And they did It's like champion throwbacks Paul, I know you listen every second of this podcast Send us all some throwback water dog stuff

So they're in fourth place right now They beat the top three teams Oh, so we're celebrating that they're in fourth place No, he was saying they haven't beaten anyone They're not even a wildcard Who they beat the fucking snakes? The whip snakes are seven to one They're only lost to the water dogs

Not really, they lost to the water dogs I know, but that was just an off game If this was the BCS The whip snakes should be out You can't lose to the water dogs You just lost to Purdue It's true Yeah, so two weeks lost to the regular season

Heating up Wow, PLL Paul really should do the BCS For the PLL Get people mad about rankings Yeah, just do a computer rankings And have it only be a two team final Like, don't have a playoffs

Oh, I have a vote as a media member For the post-season awards Oh, we'll be taking that Yes, thank you very much Is that ethical? Thank you very much Is that ethical? Yeah

Because you're handing that over to us He's not an owner I'm not an owner either I never fill out the paperwork But you do work with the owners Yes, but not on the team The new side Yeah, I filled out that paper

I don't work with you It took me like a year and a half And then, finally, Paul got so mad at us Because he's like, you know this is actual paperwork And they're outstanding shares of the team Yeah, he did get that And for legal reasons Yeah

And it took like three or four different emails For him to really impress that on his phone And it took like one second Once you actually logged in So, yeah Okay Anything else? A lot of former Denver University players

On the water dogs Cool As we're in Denver Nice Beautiful Blackhawk Yeah Blackhawk

Blackhawk I said it blackhawk What are you saying? No, that was Cell phone situation You're saying blackhawk? Blackhawk Blackhawk

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Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers Aaron Rodgers I haven't had yet. That's a great answer though. And it's true.

That's what's been ingrained in me since I was a second-year player in the league. I've been surrounded by Pittsburgh people, everybody from Mike McCarthy to Tom Clements, to Ben McAdoo, Dom Capers, Darren Perry, Frank Signetti, a lot of Pittsburgh people. And all they talk about is just toughness. Yeah, that is true.

At Pittsburgh grit. Putting fries on sandwiches. Wait, so are you saying that you miss Mike McCarthy? I love Mike McCarthy. Yeah, yeah. So why don't you marry him? Why don't you just have him back here? Have him be your coach.

I think he's doing pretty good in Dallas. Yeah, it's okay. All right, so we're gonna sidetrack. We got a lot of stuff to get to. I can't wait. Did Mike McCarthy ever smash a watermelon in front of you? I never saw that, no. Okay, because he did that with the Cowboys

and they won a big game. And we were wondering if that was like a party trick he pulled out for all of his teams. And I haven't seen that. Okay. Nathan never did that in 14 years with us. Are you a little disappointed that he never thought highly enough of you to do that?

I am disappointed. Now we did do a lot of fun things. The McCarthy Olympics was one fun thing that we did every year in training camp, but no watermelons. What's involved in the McCarthy Olympics? There was a dunk tank. There was a penalty shot.

We had it at his property. He obviously, like anybody would in Green Bay, bought a 30 acre property and then spent, who knows how much money, building this big berm so nobody could look at him on one side of the road. And then he bought up all the houses around him. So he had to just a massive property.

So it was, you know, there was like a 100 yard golf shot. There was a soccer thing. There was indoor basketball. There was golf, you know, long drive. There was three point competition. There was dunk tank. There was lawn darts, you know, all the good stuff beer chugging,

which I would have won probably. Oh, wow. I've seen you have the box games. That's, I don't know. I have that written down. You can't chug a beer. See, I'm gonna take all your information and just put it out there so you can't do it.

I have a feeling that you've done some opposition research going into this interview. No, of course not. I don't believe that for a second. You're confident enough? What's opposition research happening? You know, you know stuff about mostly him, I would imagine. I do, yes.

Yeah, so you... Caleb told me a lot. Listen, all right, let's just cut through it. Put our cards on the table. If you had to go to jail or prison, which one would you pick? What's the difference? Well, jail's probably a little lighter than prison.

Do you like his county jail? I've said, I see, listen. Maybe you like the Manhattan Correctional Facility with like a real jacked up former cop as your cellmate for a night? Yeah, from what I've read, I think if anybody in this room, and I don't know some of the other people in here,

and Tom has a sketchy past, but I think you would probably be most likely to go to jail between all of us anyway. Really? Yeah. I have committed some crimes, that's fine, but I also admit to the crimes I commit, where you don't and you kinda skirt around it.

But listen, I'm actually very realistic about you as a player. I've always said you're a very good quarterback, very good quarterback, even the league MVP four times, right? I do think that you should be in jail or prison, and I'm fair to say you get to pick. I think jail's better than prison,

so you can have that and I will meet you halfway. No? Okay, all right, well, I'll work on it. Let's do it, let's try a different angle. How close were you to retiring? Be honest. Close, I don't know how close is close. I was thinking about it, yeah.

So, Jeopardy, that would have been cool. Yeah, that would have been cool. Yeah. Did you want that job? I did. I feel like it's a thankless job though, because that's become one of those shows where no matter who's hosting it,

it's almost like the Jeopardy community loves to nitpick at the host and be like, you're not Alex Trebek. Well, yeah, that's the case, and I would say for many of the shows that I grew up watching, that is definitely the case. Price is right, nobody can ever be Bob Barker. Best show ever.

But I will say one guy who's transcended all of that and even surpassed Louie Anderson, who nobody thought ever could, is Steve Harvey with Family Feud. That's true. He's America's host, you're right. Family Feud, you know what I mean? That show went through so many different people,

and all that didn't make me to have one iconic host other than Louie, I think Steve definitely did that. So, I was actually, like I said, I'm actually fair with you. You might think I'm not fair, but when you were saying that you want to be... No offense, but I don't watch your stuff. What? My what?

I didn't think about you at all. Okay, all right, so either way, that's fine. You don't have to watch anything, but I was being fair. I'm a big Portnoy fan. Like I'll watch his, you know, pizza reviews, and cookie reviews, and ice cream reviews, you know, that's fun.

You never think about us, that's fine. I wanted you to have the Jeopardy job. I was pushing for it. Just so you could slam me, or? No, I wanted you to have the job so you could be happy, and because clearly you don't like playing football, so I was like, let's get this guy happy. Oh.

I'm a humanitarian. Throw me out of the NFC North, I got it. I also would like to say, like, I saw your golf game. See that? Yeah, I don't know what's going on there. I saw your golf game. Liv is offering a lot of money, so have you thought about that?

150 for last play seems like a pretty, pretty fair. It's a strong offer. Fair offer. So we were actually just talking about this the other week. We all have a number, like Saudi Arabia could give me $100 million. Yes, instant, yes. What's your number?

Probably around Tiger's number. 800 million, so there is a chance. I'm going to make some calls. Everybody's got a price. Yeah, it's true. Yeah, we've all got a price. I will work my ass off to try to get Liv or Jeopardy, or anything you want to do.

I'm an Aaron Rodgers fan. I'm going to make sure that you're happy doing anything besides football. In three more years. Ooh, okay, so you're saying you're going to retire after three years? Maybe four. Fuck, you're never going to retire.

You're never going to retire. Wait, I just got one follow-up. Are you really sensitive about what I said last year after I scored that touchdown? Okay, let's get into it. So you said I own you. I fucking own you to the city of Chicago. The city of Chicago has $38.7 billion a debt.

So are you going to pay that? That's a good one. No, I'm not going to pay that. If you own us. No, I don't think I'm saying that about the entire city. Now maybe you sold your field. Every fan who was flipping me off. You know, that negativity that was kind of coming my way.

There was a pretty substantial FCC fine. That came Fox's way. Do you own that fine? You can't just say fuck on TV. It's supposed to be a 10-second delay. So I think that's out of my hands. I actually own you because I'm a Packers owner. So I own you, you own him.

You own a piece of paper that has zero actual value. I actually stole it from our goldfish. So our goldfish owned you. Then he died, then I inherited the share. I own you. You own Big Cat. So I guess I inherit that debt. Okay.

Do you feel bad for what you've done to my friend Big Cat? No, I don't. At all. Not at all. Because I don't know if you can tell this. I think he's conflicted. You know, he's conflicted. It's kind of like Darth Vader and Luke Skywalker.

Remember? You know, he's like, I can feel the conflict within you. And he says this fake statement like, oh, there's no conflict. I've moved on inside. He went to Wisconsin. Yeah. I hate you, though. I hate the Packers.

He's seen some of my all-time best moments on the field. Not only at Soldier Field, but also at Ford Field. So I was a Lions fan for 24 hours. But deep down. And I went to go help support the Lions fans to try to beat the Packers. And then you threw the Hail Mary right in my face, directly in my face. Like I said, you've tortured me. They had me on the way over here.

They were like, what's the worst moment, Aaron Rodgers vs. the Bears? They just started listing like a laundry list and it goes on forever. Do you get extra like, do you actually relish in the fact that you beat the Bears the way you do every single year? Yes. Fuck. I mean, I knew the answer to that. Because it's a great sports town.

You know, if we're beating up on a town that doesn't have great sports history, it's like just another win. But Chicago is Chicago. You get 100 years of Bears football, almost, right? You have the Chicago Bulls. I grew up a Bulls fan. You know, back on my old TV, we had like seven dials, you know, and you had to like hit it just right with the antenna doing.

We could get WGN so we could watch, you know, Cubs baseball and Harry Currie. You know, that was like iconic and Bulls basketball. So we're like meeting somewhere. I grew up watching Chicago sports. So, all right. What's your favorite memory? I'm just going to do this because everyone's going to want to hear it. What's your favorite memory of beating the Bears?

What's your favorite Bears all time? Because there are a lot. I actually like weirdly, I'll tell you mine first because there's, you know, Randall Cobb was terrible. The NNFC championship game was terrible. When you faked you had an injury with Khalil Mack, that first half, you came back. Weirdly though, the one that just kills me the most because actually Hank and Dave, we were in Arizona for some college football thing and we watched Sunday Night Football.

It was a game that you put up like, I think you guys were 42, nothing at half. And they just laughed at me for an entire half. And they're like, how do you watch this? That one hurts, I think, weirdly the most. So what's your favorite? Go ahead. Well, that one hurts because it was 42, whatever, at halftime. And I'd thrown six touchdowns and the record is seven.

And Mike was going to sit me. And I was like, how about one more possession? He goes, okay, one more. So we got down to the nine yard line and threw it three times, three incompletions. Bend, don't break. Yeah. So we went up 45, nothing. Yeah.

All right. So what's your favorite? Probably 2013. Okay. Only because I came back from my collarbone. Randall came back from his knee injury and then somehow it was for the division. You know, after so many things happened, you know, for us to be able to be in it. And I believe that Detroit was still in the week before than they had a bad loss to somebody.

So then it came down to like our game and, you know, neither team I don't think was great that year, but we're still playing for a home playoff game. And I started off, I threw a pick to Chris Conti on a roll out and I'm like, shit, like is it going to go like this, you know, tonight? And then I threw another pick to Jennings and I think the second or third quarter. And then we had that weird, fluky, pep, you know, cause a fumble and Boykin picks it up and nobody's doing anything and he runs in the end zone. And on the last drive, we converted three, four downs, you know, fourth and like inches

on a dive play a fourth and three and throw the Geordie. But the last one was pretty amazing. What this is, this is terrible. I actually hate that I'm doing this. This is actually my least favorite thing I've ever done coming here right now. But you look good. You look good. Thank you.

Thank you. No, I mean, sometimes, no, I mean, you know, I know that we've all struggled with our own issues and I know weight's been cut up and down for you, but I feel like you look like you don't watch anything I do. No, I just heard. Oh, okay. You heard about the weight. All right.

You're looking good. Thank you. But like, what did you see when Chris Conti was just not there? Were you like, Holy, did you, did you think you were hallucinating? No one's ever been more open in the history of the NFL. We have to understand you have to put it all together. I think people throw blame on Chris or major or whoever it was on that side. I think Bowman was outside as well on the play.

But the, you guys brought seven and we blocked with six. Right. So there should have been a free guy. So it was really the, the rush pattern that got you. Now the backside, I haven't each of Smith and I believe a Josh sitting did a good job blocking like two or three. And then John Kuhn comes over and cuts Julius. So I guarantee on the defense that they were expecting the ball to come out quick.

Right. That's why they were playing at 10 yards. In fact, there was probably an illegal contact on the play. I think major right just dropped Jordy who was in number three in that, in that spot. But that was a fun feeling. It was so open. It was so open. Well, because they're playing for, what they should have done was change the,

they should have changed the call. I mean, I knew what the, I knew what the check call was. Okay. Was that one of those plays where when, when the, when you get up to the line, you see what they're doing. You just know it's a touchdown. No, I don't know it's touching at all. I was literally trying to throw it hot to Jordy.

And then I felt John come out because I didn't think he was going to block peppers because he was, peps should have been the free guy in the play. But John was smart and he saw that Evan and Josh had blocked those guys. So he came over and cut Julius. So question off of that real question, which is why I think major hit Jordy because I was going to throw out the Jordy and let the stop route. So off of that real question, real football question, at what point in your career have you been able to be like,

I just see everything better than like, you know, I know what the defense is going to do. I've done this so many times. Like you almost feel like you're playing at a higher level than everyone else. It takes a long time and I don't ever feel like that. I don't think consistently. It's more certain teams you play or certain defense coordinators. You start to get into rhythm and even at a game, they ran that same pressure, I think two other times with the same signal.

So we came out, they did a signal. I made a check and was thinking about throwing out the Jordy. Now it all just came together because John made a great block and it shouldn't have been like that. But you can get into a rhythm with seeing certain things. I think the most important thing for a quarterback is to figure out what I'm doing and once you can wipe your mind from that, to be able to see what the defense is doing takes you to a whole another level because then you're reading the fronts,

you're seeing signals, you're hearing things out there that you might not hear if you're just thinking about what my guys are doing and what this guy's doing and this guy's doing, you know, it's playing on the other side of the football. It's how you kind of take that jump. Because it does feel like at times where, again, there's going to be a compliment, but like you are, you're seeing things and processing things so much faster than everyone else that it feels almost unfair. I don't know if that's just us watching it and being like,

holy shit, Aaron Rodgers, or you actually feel that yourself where you're like, I'm processing this so much faster than everyone else. I feel like that sometimes for sure, but it's just certain games. Some games, teams will be so good at disguise, you're guessing a lot. Yeah. And sometimes you guess right and sometimes you guess wrong and there's going to be mistakes. But certain teams that we played over the year, you kind of feel the rhythm of certain guys

and their alignments and the movements and different things to, you know, it's always a chess match with Brian Erlacher, because he was so good that they would make everything look the exact same and then run a couple of different coverages out of it and he would change all his checks. So we'd be studying the checks the week before and have like three or four word identifications. And we'd get in the game and he'd call the same word

and mean something completely different. So it's, but he was doing what I was doing the other side of the ball. Right. He could play that game back to the offense and mess with you. But I feel like you and I can be like Brian. Because Brian and I, we were on the field and we were, you know, I can't say we were friends, but we were harsh competitors and I respected them and tackled them once.

But he picked me off quite a few times. I think the most in my career is Brian picking me off three times. But, but now we're friends. Yeah. I mean, I spent so on your Brian. I feel like I feel like we could these guys know they see me watch. Like I do really, truly hate you. But I also watch you and I'm like, Holy shit.

Like the plays he's making are insane. Like that's a fact. I feel like we could hang out. We could, you know, have a Guinness and eat some pizza and Coors Light. Yeah. Coors Light sponsor. Yup. Yup.

I'll be honest. I like you. I don't like what you've done to my friend because you probably aged in like 30 years. You're a Washington fan. So you don't care. Yeah. But you don't watch anything that we do. Right.

I'm a nihilist. Okay. Like I'm convincing myself to root for Carson Wentz this year. That's how bad things have got. I'm actually a commander's fan. Don't forget about that name change. But I do like you. I've noticed that you had almost like a significant change in perspective over the last few years.

You become, it seems like you're having more fun from what I've seen. You're enjoying your teammates. You're enjoying the process. You're enjoying what you get to do while you're still able to do it, which I think is very cool. And you have a good perspective on like where football fits into your life. I think a lot of people don't have that, especially from the outside. So I guess my question is when did you first try ayahuasca? A few years ago.

Yeah. Yeah. Straight from the source? What source? Ecuador. I don't think it's me. I don't think that would be the source. Amazon.

Amazon. Yeah. By the way, the tattoo looks better in person. Thank you. That's another thing I admire about you. You're totally go ahead. You're like, listen, if you want to put a needle in my arm and inject whatever you want in there, I'm totally on board with that. I could never do that.

Well, I actually... It was very, very important. I immunize this part of my body right here. Because you actually explained the tattoo because we're trying to figure it out when the picture came out and trying to analyze what it was. No. I think your analyzation is probably better than my explanation. You were just like, give me something cool. I actually, I did not make fun of you for the tattoo because I am, what are you, 38?

No, you're 40? Are you 42? You should probably retire. Keep going. I do want to get a tattoo. I don't have any. What are you in your late 30s? I'm 37, yeah.

Nice. Why don't we retire together? I'll walk away from this. You walk away from that. We'll just do it together. Yeah, sounds good. We've both made enough money. Let's just fuck it.

Let's get out of here. You're so rich, dude. Let's go play golf. Come on. But yeah, I didn't, I actually respect the fact that you got a tattoo so late in life because I want to get a tattoo at some point. But I don't, it's hard to be like the late 30s, early 40s guy and be like, oh, here's my first tattoo. Because either you're a tattoo guy or not, but you now are. I am.

And I don't care about whether you like it or don't like it. I would like you to like it because I like you and I want to like you, but I actually don't care. We think that it's cool. I think our analysis was what it looks like the inside of Kyrie Irving's brain. Nice. Yeah. I also say I live in Brooklyn now. So I was like, yeah, I see that tattoo every single day.

Humble brag. Yeah. Brooklyn's a humble brag. Here's a real question. Huge brag. Live in Brooklyn. A place that has like three million people. Can we run through some, just like some football scenarios here?

Because as Big Cat was saying, you see everything before it happens. You're playing seven dimensional chess out there. All right. You score a touchdown. You're down 14 in the fourth quarter. You score a touchdown. Time's running out. Do you go for two the first time or do you wait to go for two later?

I like going for two later, but our analyst guy likes going for two now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Another one. Let's say it's fourth and inches at midfield. Coach sends out the punt team. What would your play call be?

A little hard count probably. Fake punt. Fake punt. Yeah. They'd never know it's coming. Last one I had here, hypothetically, fourth down at the eight yard line. There's two minutes, nine seconds left. You're down eight.

You kick a field goal there. Just take the points. Yeah. Just take the points. Take the points. That's it. Yeah. What was the line?

I think it was three and a half. Yeah. It didn't help us. Yeah. You guys had us in the points. Yeah. So every time we talk to your coach on the floor, we give him a hard time about that. And he's put all of it on you.

He's like Aaron wanted to kick a field goal. He wanted to get off the drill. He didn't trust his arm in that situation. He was late for a flight to go hang out at Miles Teller in the jungle. Yeah. So he wanted to get out of there. We're like, all right, fine. It's credit to him.

He's never said it publicly. I think maybe he was thinking if I get three now, then we stop him, get three again, get onside kick, and then another three. 32-31. Yeah. Yeah. Championship. So I was joking around earlier, but I have noticed that you've like changed your perspective

as your career has matured. Do you think that you love football more than you did when you first started playing in the NFL? I think I have a better perspective about life now than I did as a 21-year-old. And I'm more of an appreciation and gratitude for still doing it. I mean, that's the reason. The other part is just, you know, people like Dan and others, you know, have created this idea of what I am and what I'm about and who I am, felon.

Yeah, I should be in jail, arrested. And it's been fun to, you know, do McAfee show, be a little more open with the media, finally do, you know, this with you guys, and hopefully let people see a different side. But either way, I'm not trying to be anything other than myself. And I do, I think deep down realize this chapter in my life is coming to a close soon. So I'm trying to enjoy it a little bit more than when you're 21, you're thinking you'd play forever and 38, you're a fucking old guy, you know. 38, you're like, damn, like the years have really gone by and I'm thankful for it.

You know, I want to leave this place better than I found it. I'm going to throw you a great retirement party. That's my promise to you. We'll go hang out, do whatever you want. You just say the word, maybe next Saturday, we'll do it. All right. We're going to fucking hang out. Off that.

Are we going to fly on that jet you flew in here on? Yeah. That's grip, baby. Hey, listen. But you had me by the street. I mean, like behind the scenes, people don't realize I had to basically beg Aaron for three weeks. I was annoying him with text messages.

I wanted to like kill myself every day that I had to text you and be like, hey, will you come on the show? But I will suck up. I'll suck it up for the for the people. I got you. The people want to see the there was we were talking about it. There was a small part of me when we were going to go down to Austin. I was like, he's probably not even going to be in Austin and he's just getting me to fly

there and I'm just going to we're going to show up. That's what you do. So you present this image of me, this perspective of me that's totally doesn't match the facts. You were doing it for years. I'm going to give you credit. You were very nice on tax. You said I want to do it. I just got I'm going to show you for libel and you can choose a cash payout or jail.

Yeah, he's going to put you in jail. So you're done in Austin. How was doing the Alex Jones show? No, you were you were very nice and the media part. I do have a question off that. Do you get a little bit of like pleasure out of trending and having people like you've done some cryptic Instagram posts and some cryptic tweets? Yeah, no, you're like there's been many times where you've posted something and I'm like,

it's over. He's done. He's leaving Green Bay and like I get my hopes up. Are you doing that? Like knowing you're just you just like to rile the people up because you do it very well. Every now and then there's a situation where you might, you know, push the send button before counting to 10 and talking to a friend and making sure this is something you want to put out there.

And I think we're all probably guilty of that. You for sure. I've read some of yours. I mean, do you want to get into the tweets? The one that Devante was was him and I kind of put our heads together and, you know, wanted to stir some shit up. Oh, the last dance. Oh, that one had me so happy.

I was telling everyone. I was like, it's over. It's over. And it was right. Yeah, I guess it was. So you said like, you know, there's a certain image out there of you that you've tried to do. Well, you don't care really what like strangers think necessarily, but it's not necessarily

accurate. Big cat. I mean, Dan, yes, I do care about him. Yeah. How would you describe yourself? I just I think in general, I'd like to I'd like to present myself how I see myself. So unapologetically authentic, you know, and I mean, you like me or don't like me. Not my concern at this point.

You know, my concern is just speaking the truth and and, you know, and people say, oh, immunization, vaccination. I did. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, you did. How many people do you think you killed? What's your count? How many grandmothers?

Let's just do grandmothers. I mean, I know you guys are fucking around. I don't find that that part funny. I really don't. Oh, shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It actually is one of my favorite things I was able to do off of that whole immunization thing is tweet that you should be in jail and then I would have people who get the joke and then there would be like a ton of people who'd be like, oh, you like you think COVID is so really should be in jail and it was just my mentions would just be a mess. And probably a lot of people said, fuck, yeah, put them in jail. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I have an arm.

Get that liar in jail. Get him in jail. Get him in jail. Probably. Okay. A real question. Those are the ones you're all retweeting and liking. Yeah.

I was like, yeah, good point. Good point. Good point. Real question. Kind of a grit question for grit. Please. Did you know first of all, let me just, I need to share this. I feel like AJ Hawk would never forgive me if I didn't.

But in our old grading system, so we play a game and the next day, you know, every play is graded at one point went to this huge grading format where there was like 20 different things. Somehow they were graded and I swear to God in every single play, there was a grit grade for each player. Grit grade. There was a NM for needs more and ST was standard and then an alpha plus. Alpha plus. Yeah.

You know, if you got that alpha plus grit grade, you probably did something fucking. That's a John Coon grade. Incredible. Oh, John. Yeah, for sure. And where's John from? In grit. Yeah.

Pittsburgh. Yeah. Yeah. Grit grade. We got to start grit grading ourselves. Yeah, you do. Yeah. All right.

So this is the standard of summer between ST and NM. Okay. So we got it. We got some time. Yeah. I don't want to be an alpha plus yet. All right. So this is the real question.

This will this will help the alpha plus your story of getting to the NFL. So you got you were lightly recruited. Right. You I think I read that you at one point were thinking about like just quitting football and going to be a lawyer. Right. I was thinking about how close were you at that point? Like because I just want to go home and fantasize about like a different world where

you just never played football, but how because you stuck it out and it is, you know, people think Aaron Rodgers, your town is so out of this world. They don't think grit. But then when you read about, you know, having to start at Chico, it was Chico. Butte. Butte. Yeah. Right by Chico and then go into Cal and not getting all of those scholarship offers

and like, you know, falling in the draft with their moments where you're like, this just isn't going to work out for sure. And it was when I think about, there was like one day that kind of course corrected everything. The, it was in February of 2002 and the baseball coach who had been my JV football coach had been kind of prodding me to, to maybe come out and play baseball and pitch and I hadn't played since eighth grade. And so the pitchers and catchers were like playing catch on the black top or something. He said, I'll come out and throw a little bit.

And they had the gun out there. And that one day, I think changed my kind of turn back on my competitive fire because I came out of the, the winter had no offers and really know what I was going to do. Obviously the Juco's in the area wanted me to come play there. But when you're growing up, you don't dream about playing, you know, Juco ball. You dream about playing on Saturdays on ABC with Keith Jackson calling your games. You're not thinking about playing at Cowan Stadium in Warville, California in front of 500 people, but playing baseball that spring really kind of gave me my competitive fire

back. And then I played in this all star football game that summer. And I say all star very lightly because it was Northern California, kind of north south. There were only a few of us from that game who kind of went on to play in college. But that kind of gave me my fire back. And with the junior college, Abute had a fantastic time, still very close with my coaches there. And then the rest is kind of history. That's crazy.

So there is like, there's an alternate world where if that invite doesn't happen, not saying that you would have stopped playing sports, but you might have been like, all right, I'm going to figure out something else in life. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's a world. I was dealing with a major knee injury that was frustrating for two years and in high school. And I was like, maybe I'll just rehab and maybe I'll get surgery or what I wanted to do.

And then that day kind of, oh, okay. Let me get into this next challenge. How can I be the best pitcher this year? And that kind of got my mindset adjusted and that competitive fire kind of came back. And what was that guy's name? I just want to know for personal reasons. I just want to call him up and Daniel Katz. I want to build a time machine.

I want to find that guy. Yeah. Yeah. If I build a time machine, one thing I can do is find that, that baseball coach. No. Don't invite Aaron to practice today. Then you're a lawyer. You would have been a terrible lawyer.

Oh my God. Really? Yeah. You would have been a terrible lawyer. Why? I can just feel it. Nah, you just wouldn't have been a good lawyer. I just know it.

It's all I got right now. Probably true. I'm grasping. All right. You got to hurt me with the bear stuff. What's the worst loss that you've had? What's the one that stuck the most? Oh, the NFC championship against Seattle.

Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was a very fun game from my perspective. One play goes our way out of all these, you know, they don't call it off sides. I thought I picked Sherman. Obviously the onside kick, fake field goal, two point conversion, you know, all the, there's like eight plays. If one of them goes our way, we had a pick and the guys, you know, our guys slid down

instead of running back inside the 30 and one of those plays goes our way. You know, we, we, uh, we win that. We played in New England who we had beaten earlier that year at home, but we beat them 26, 21 that year. But, uh, yeah, that one hurts. That was a fun one. Always going to hurt. I was just like, this is really happening.

This is really happening. Holy shit. Is this still happening? And it just kept on happening. Do you have a photographic? It was great. It was great. I remember the bar.

I was in Chicago and I was like, this is happening. Tell me more. Tell me more about it. It was, so, um, what did you guys like run? You didn't run offense at the end of the game, right? It was their time left and you, and you nailed it or no. I know the onside kick. They scored.

Yeah. And then they went for two and he threw up that wild one and somehow guy caught it and scored it. So we're down three. Then we went down and got a field goal. That's right. You kicked a field goal. Yeah.

Right. Right. And there was, but there was moments where it felt like your offense wasn't, you guys were kind of playing not to lose situation towards the end where it's like, all right. Oh, the last couple of possessions. Yeah. And I, that was, that was one of my favorite parts. I was like, what are they doing?

Like they've been able to. Well, we'd get, we'd get after them in 20, the entire game, 20 personnel. So two backs and three receivers. And that was kind of the plan. And then we went to the last couple of possessions in 22 personnel. So two backs, two tight ends, like a jumbo set, which, you know, Seattle's iconic, you know, one of the best defenses of the generation for sure. Last 30 years, probably the legion of boom and people forget how good they were up front

as well. And obviously with the KJ and Bobby and backer, you know, they were as stout as can be, but they had a front that was pretty nasty, but we had found some things in 20 personnel. They got after them pretty good. And the last couple of possessions we, you know, didn't do it, but, you know, as well as we played on defense that day, we picked them off five times. We had the ball inside the two twice and kicked two field goals. Yeah.

Which obviously hurt. Yeah. Yeah. There were a lot of things. That was a great game. And I wasn't passing over time. Yeah. But where were you?

Where were you? I was in a bar. I have a friend who's a diehard Packers fan. And as it was happening, I started to slowly move away from him because I thought he was going to legitimately punch me. So by the end, when we're also Wilson through the touchdown, I was like basically standing in the doorway, like away from where we were sitting the whole day because I was like, he's going to try to fight me.

And yeah, it was great. It was great. And then he was just defeated and it was just beautiful. Whole thing. Can I ask you a non condescending in a non condescending way a question? Yeah. That was a rhetorical question. That intro question was a little bit condescending.

It was rhetorical. Yeah. Okay. Truly, is it hard for you as a Bears fan? Yeah. That some of your greatest moments are cheering against me when the Bears aren't playing? Okay. Good question.

Very good question. No, it's actually great because what I've told everyone is I'm very realistic about the Bears, not a great franchise. Just don't do the right things for the most part. Every year I look forward to the playoffs and the game that you're going to lose. And I've told this story on there, but like when you guys lost San Francisco this year, we were watching the game in New Jersey and I drove drove back to Brooklyn, Bragg. And I listened to Tausher ESPN Wisconsin for three hours.

I sat in my car at my, I arrived home. It's a 20 minute drive. I had ride home. I sat for three hours listening to callers, be like, blow up Lambo, get 12 out of here. We need to build a dome. This team isn't built for the outside. And it was, that was the highlight of my NFL season. And I have no problem saying that because I know I'm a loser.

That's the best part. I've come to grips with the fact that I'm a loser. So yes, watching you lose in the playoffs is my, that's my Super Bowl. And I've won a lot of Super Bowls if you do it that way, more than you. Yeah. Yeah. I like that. Spins on my head.

Yeah. Yeah. I have a dynasty cookin. Do you like playing in the cold? I do. Really? Cause I know Brett was saying like he had that amazing record in the playoffs and Lambo Field was placed.

Nobody could win it. And he hated playing the cold, but you enjoy it. I do. I feel like it slows the rush down. And I think that kind of even some things out up front. So we plan a front that's really, really dynamic. Everything can get in the way, especially if playing at Chicago in the cold. That field's terrible.

It's unique. It's, I mean, it's a sandpit. Is there like one coach that you go up against and you know that, you know, we were talking earlier about how sometimes you can see exactly what's going on. Sometimes things are more disguised, but one coach that you know that when you play against them, they're going to throw some stuff at you. They're going to disguise things and you're going to be a little confused. I think Todd Bowles has done a good job at that over the years.

I think he's a really good coach. He has a, you can always tell schematically what coaches are the best based on how the league adjusts. And offensively, you know, when this offense that we're in has kind of, there's like nine different teams running now. And it started with Mike Shanahan and his son, Kyle, run it really, really well in Atlantic on the Super Bowl. And then everybody copied it.

And then there was a Seattle defense. I think you're seeing the Rams defense that kind of branched out across the league. There's probably six, seven teams running the same thing. And then there's some teams trying to do what, what Coach Bowles does with the pressure package. Mike Zimmer for a long time was as hard as it came playing against because they had eight up looks, you know, a double A gap and then double edges. And then they had every variation, both edge guys, four to a side, four to the other side, both inside guys, drop those guys out.

And the best disguisers in the game, including, you know, Harrison Smith has been there forever. But the backers, when Bar and Kendrick are in there, you know, and they had that front that played together for a long time, it was one of the toughest defenses to go against. Yeah. Your coach was telling us before you came in, you know, one way to counteract that is by running a lot of motion on offense. He said, you love that. He said that you're really enjoying.

Love motion. Love motion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Why is that? So we're idiots, obviously. I mean, you've heard us talk for the last 20 minutes.

We're fucking morons. Yes. But no. But what is it? Interesting people. What is it about installing like a motion office that you're like, God damn, this is kind of a pain in the ass. Because to me, it's just like you go out there and you do what the coach says.

Yeah. I mean, if he's smart and he knows what he's talking about and yeah, you do what he says. He's one of the smartest in the game, but that implies that you've maybe played for some coaches that weren't smart. No, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if the scheme is smart and makes sense, then yeah, you do it. How much sometimes in this scheme, and I tell him out all the time, this scheme has flaws. I think this scheme is way different.

I grew up in the West Coast offense, West Coast offense, I think is the most beautiful offense ever created. It's very, it's about timing and rhythm and balance and everything makes sense protection-wise. You know where your hot soil, you know where your eyes are going every single time, you know how the concepts fit together. This is a schematic offense. That was not a schematic offense. That was built on timing and precision and rhythm and guys being in the right spot at

the right time and putting the ball on the proper number. And, you know, started with Bill Walsh in Montana and Paul Hackett and on down to the iteration that we got to and I loved it. In that offense though, it's not predicated on motion. It's predicated on winning one-on-one matchups and then being accurate throwing the football. And so that's what I grew up in. I marveled at Peyton Manning during his prime, would run all two by two and three by one formations with no motion.

Just because you want to look at it and use this cadence variation to get movement and then be able to go with tempo as well. When you have so much motion, it's hard to get tempo going, you know, because you always got to make sure you're set and you got a motion, maybe a double motion, maybe this thing, maybe the suggestion off of it. I just like sometimes I tell them the same thing. I'm not telling you guys anything I wouldn't tell you. I got after them today because every freaking play there's a goddamn motion.

I'm like, can we run one play without a motion and pass so we can get some tempo going? Because I like to switch the tempo. But in this offense, it does put a lot of stress on the defense because you have a motion, you have an outside zone look, you have a guy sealing backside, and we have off of that, we have a run, we have a screen, we have a keeper, we have an action pass, so you have so many different looks off the same stuff. That's why it works. It's a little frustrating when you grew up in the West Coast offense and your mindset

is all about protection and X's and adjustments and different things when you play in an offense that doesn't have a lot of those things and maybe could use it at times, and also when it kind of fucks up the protection schemes and lanes and identification sometimes. It just makes it a little extra strenuous sometimes in the quarterback. I'm starting to think you might know football. Do you think football is beautiful? I do. I can tell.

When done right, yeah. What's the most beautiful play? Good question. We used to run this play many, many times. Unfortunately, we hit the Bears against it a few times, but hard play action to the left, half rollback to the right, and then a double move by 87 off the frontside with some sort of adjustment, some sort of compounder out either a deep cross or kind of a throwback route, but it was the weave, like corner post, off of hard action.

You probably hit it for, I don't know, seven or eight touchdowns over the kind of three or four year span, and when that one comes clean and safety goes and doubles the X and Jordy's up there and running this corner, and you just know he's going to be wide open. That's pretty play. Shit. I mean, you can tell like that. Yeah. Football is beautiful.

We know you got to go in a second. We got a couple more questions. We'll wrap it up quickly. Thank you, though. I do appreciate your time. I appreciate you guys coming up here. Yeah. It's all a right off.

And you guys, you know, David, thank you, Dave, you think the bar still fun was going to restaurants? All right, we'll go quick here. Favorite throw you've ever thrown. Is it the one against cowboys? I liked that one. I liked the couple in the Super Bowl that felt good, but my favorite throw is the one that you got to witness in Detroit.

I don't think I've ever thrown a ball that came off that good and went that high in that far. You killed Detroit. He had his body. If you watch the video back, like he literally his body, he had no spine, he had no bones. He just collapsed. You killed that man. He's still alive, though, right?

Yeah, he is still alive. I think. But he... Experts. He made it back. He recovered. The worst part about that, before that video, they were doing the math on how they were going to make the playoffs.

They're like, I win this game. I win that. I was like, all right, guys, but it's fucking Aaron Rodgers, like, this is not over, and then you did that. All right. We'll wrap up with a couple of last questions. Is the discount double check the championship belt? You think that's a little ironic now, since you haven't won one in a long time?

Yes. Okay. All right. Good answer. Good answer. Let's see. What else do we have? Here's one.

Do you think that if the NFC North was a better division, then you'd have better success in the playoffs? As big cats or as bears actually not preparing you enough? No, I think the North is a tough division. It's a gritty division. I think we can all agree on that. It is gritty. Okay.

When you said that the 49ers were going to regret not drafting you when they went, when they're 4-0 against you in the playoffs, is that regret or is that, what is that? What would you describe that as? How many Super Bowls have they won in the last 18 years? Doing the math right now. I mean, the lights went out. That kind of screwed them. I don't know, that actually helped them, I think.

Yeah. Okay. I win that one. They also had one of the most iconic defenses in the last 30 years as well and didn't win any. Before, no. When you're dropping down on draft there, are you doing the math like, please God, somebody picked me before Washington?

Well, Washington would have picked Campbell, I think, anyway. You think so? Ooh. I suppose they liked them more than they liked me. I was honestly thinking when the Raiders straight up at 23, I was like, whoa. There we go. Whoa. Maybe take somebody else.

We're in a green bay and you know the situation that you're going into. It's, you know, Brett Farve's the guy. Yeah. Also, it's cold. You're a Cali boy. Yeah. Were you at first like, ah, shit. Yeah.

Of course. I mean, I couldn't have picked it out on a map, to be honest with you. Yeah. And I feel like I'm pretty good with states and capitals and geography, but the Packers was the worst interview out of the combine. So it was at the combine. I was sitting in front of a group like this, but camera right here, Mike Sherman, all the whole room, and it was a tough interview.

I felt like they were grilling me. I thought this was like, you know, a little like love session where we're kind of loving, you know, you'd love me up a little bit and I'm kind of, you know, being, you know, nice and funny, maybe, but it was not that. And I came back and I was like, well, it doesn't matter. They're picking 24th. I'll never last that long. Another sliding doors moment.

Famous last words. Um, I love asking athletes this, what's the one thing that fans just totally get wrong in terms of your day to day, like season, life, everything. This is where you can basically sub-tweet everyone. It's a grind, but it's a balanced grind. I think a lot of guys like to talk about, you know, they're, oh, I'm up at 530 watching film and doing this and grinding all night. That's overkill to me.

You know, as somebody who's had success in the league, it's a, it's balanced. People are like, oh, your schedule must be crazy. Like I got to talk to you in the office. No, no, no, no, no, like Wednesday and Thursday are busy and the Tuesday you're working on a plan, but the schedule in the NFL is pretty nice and we're creatures of habit. We love the routine. Um, it's a mental grind, but it's not a crazy schedule when you're watching film too. It's like you can watch eight hours of film a day and at some point you start to phase

it out. You can't watch eight hours or anything. You can't. No. Why would you want to do that? Do you have anything in your contract saying you have to watch four hours over the course of a week? I don't.

All right. Last question. Uh, rowback question, put it in promo code take you get 20% off your rowback purchase. Uh, Q zips, polls. Look at these. These are rowback. No big deal. I was going to say, I like those shirts.

Yeah. Thank you. We actually, you want. Yeah. Uh, sure. Yeah. Am I going to get some swag? I don't want yours.

Send me some swag. I don't want that. I don't want that. What do you got underneath this? I said, you want this? Oh, actually you'll like what I have underneath. It's another podcast to do. It's called macro dosing right up your alley.

Nice. Love it. I got a gift for you. What are you macro dosing? Uh, you know, pizza. You know, what are you an XL? Yeah. You got some large.

Hey, thank you. I'll fit into it. I appreciate that. All right. I got you a gift because I did say we were, you were nice enough to do this. So please accept my gift. I guess that's not a question, but please accept my gift if you want to open it on air. This is a joke.

I got you. No, I got you your favorite scotch. Snake in here or something. Nope. They told me this is Aaron's favorite scotch. So I got him his favorite scotch in the entire world. What is it? Something going to bite me.

So there you go. There's a card in there too. You want to read the card to the people? Hey, thank you. Yeah. That's your favorite scotch. Scotch, right? My favorite scotch.

Yeah. Wolfburn. I actually couldn't find your favorite scotch. So I just got you that. Yeah. You didn't tell me, right? Obviously. Yeah, I love it.

Okay. All right. And then you maybe read the card and then we'll end there. So. Oh, how's the COVID toe, by the way? Yeah, it's pretty good. Okay. The lesions are gone, I believe.

Yeah. Thank you. I was just filler, so it looked like the bag was bigger. I just had to find random pictures and stuff and just, what? Oh, is it? It's the same picture. It's the same picture. It's the same picture.

Is that Shane McClellan? That's the highlight of his career, I think. It is. It is. Listen, if you told me when we drafted him in the first round, he would break your collarbone and do nothing else and be like, sign me up. That's, yeah. That's really nice.

Oh, there's another. Oh, shit. There's another one there too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I said, thank you. Yeah, thanks so much. What did I say in there?

I can't remember what I wrote. Thanks for coming on PMT. You're the worst. Love PMT, not love, just Dash, PMT and Shane McClellan. Yeah. Two of them on here. Thank you to Shane. Yeah.

Yes. Well, thank you, Aaron. She actually apologized after that. It was a nice apology on the field. He did? That was 2013 on the field before that game. Yeah. That was a great moment when you got hurt.

I mean, it was for me personally. I don't root for injuries, but when they happen, what are you going to say? No? Let me just say this. Let me ask you a question to finish this. 2018, right? I go down the first quarter. And then Mack has pick six, sack fumble.

It's 20 to three, 20 to nothing. And then you see me come back on the field. What do you think? I think my tweets at the time were like, Mack is the best player on this field. The Packers have no answer for this defense. The Bears are going to ruin Aaron Rodgers life for the rest of his career. And then you came back and you did that. And yeah, that was a bad one.

That was a really bad one. That was the post game where you had the spontaneous Southern accent. Yeah. I love that. You sprinkle that in sometimes. I do. My trick knees. Yeah.

Yeah. That was a bad one. Listen, when you get to... Thanks, Eric. You're 23 and five against the Bears. I know it. Am I going to allow him to do that? Yeah.

He just outfodged you. Dan Campbell is the only one that's allowed to call me that. Why? Because he's an alpha plus. He's got a lot of grit. Yes, he does. All right. Thank you, Aaron.

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I'm not going to let it happen. He said he really likes you, but also doesn't consume any of your stuff. But then also noticed my weight and also said, remember Ford Field. Also, the NFC North just has no respect for the dead. And I kind of respect that. They don't. Him and Dan Campbell just dead naming me left and right. Yeah.

Yeah, that's true. It's disgusting. Well, actually, it does make sense that Aaron Rodgers would not have respect for somebody's brother. Yeah, that's true. That's absolutely true. Which you made that joke. I didn't because I have always been like, I'll try to get you in jail.

I'll tell you that you're the biggest piece of shit ever, but I'll never make fun of your family. Oh, well, I guess, I guess I'm the asshole. Yeah, you're the asshole now. But I will say this. I do think we will probably have him on again. Like I thought that went well. I've, I've, I've conversed with him a little bit afterwards and a little bit of a tight

time too. A little tight time. Yeah. Definitely could definitely go longer. Oh, we could have done two hours, but we had, you know, it was actually, we got there and he had practice and then a meeting and he came and let us interview him during like his like 45 minute break. So it was, it was a tight time.

We got the little wrap it up that was like, I have like 15 more questions all time, all time. Great. I got one more question and then you guys squeeze like, I think 10. Oh, that's yeah. People, people don't see that part, but when Hank, when Hank does, I'll always notice Hank in the background because he's has shout out, shout out the PR for the Packers. Tom, who's very nice to us.

We met him a few years ago when he had us, when he had us there for the floor and also Peggy knows him well. Peggy does a great job with us, but Hank got the notice from Tom that we had to wrap it up. Hank gave me the wrap it up and I was like, yeah. And then I just kept on going. He's like giving me the look. I'm like, you saw him say actually great week memory.

That's all I can do. Great week memory about that. Like back in the day when we got, when we finally got Harbaugh and JT, his guy who I I'm still keeping in touch with good guy. He doesn't work there anymore. But afterwards he pulled me aside and he's like, Hey, when you asked for this interview, you said you only needed 20 minutes and then you took an hour. He's like, what, what happened there?

I was like, yeah, sometimes you just get carried away. Well, also Harbaugh, like, he was, he didn't want to stop talking. He was, he was more asking me. He wasn't mad. It was more of like, how'd you do that? Yeah. What kind of Jedi mind? I gotta be able to stop the next people who do this.

We just lied. That's, that's our trick. Yeah. Although I don't think that we intentionally went into it being like, we're going to go for an hour with Coach Harbaugh. No. It just happened. This one with Rogers, we had a hard out and we went, we pushed to the limit.

Like we were, he was probably, he probably was eating lunch in the meeting. Yeah. No, he was late to his meeting. He didn't get to eat lunch and then go to the meeting. Like he was probably like in the meeting. I was thinking about that. Can we get him to find? Yeah.

Or how sick would it be if, if he didn't learn a specific play because he spent too much time with us, he missed something very important and then he fucks up against the Bears. Yeah. Or the playoffs. That's fine. We learned that too. Yeah.

He got, thank you for having my back there in that moment when he's like, it's pathetic that all you care about is my loss. It was like, dude, I got, I got a lot of Super Bowl rings. Yeah. I got like fucking 10 of them. Okay. Let's do it. We're going to do Mount Rushmore of NFL coaches.

You want on your side in a fight in honor of grit week. Who goes first? Who won last time? You guys did. Also shout out to me and Billy. We didn't get last for the first time. Yes. All right.

No. We're not doing it. Jake, hang the banner. Yes. Yes. You guys do need a banner for that. That momentum. Yes.

Yes. Okay. Who came in last place then? Well, there was a bet where people wanted to see Billy or big head towards. I didn't read. I didn't retweet. Yeah. I didn't retweet it either.

Yeah. So we proved what we're saying all along. You said we were a system Mount Rushmore team. Wait. Do we have to bleep out the MR word? What? What? You go first?

No. No. No. That's not how it works. Memes. Memes trying to go first. I say we go first. You're an idiot, memes.

We'll go first. Who do we want to go second? Let's have Jake and Billy go second. Okay. All right. So you guys will go third. Our first pick is Dan Campbell. Yep.

Easy pick. Easy pick. Easiest pick in the world. I think he still does get into fights. Yeah. Oh, definitely. Wearing the grit hat, like talking about biting kneecaps, he's doing the up downs. He's hard knocks tomorrow.

Also hard knocks. Yes. Meet and greet. Meet and greet. Yes. Where is the meet and greet? What times? I believe it's called Tom's.

Tom's. Right next to Coors Field. Okay. We're doing five to seven. I think we're going to do 430 to 630. 430 mountain time. Yeah. 430 is 630.

Hardout at 630. We apologize if you can't get there by 630, but we do have to get to our host's house for hard knocks. You can't miss hard knocks. Right. You understand. So we're starting at seven. So most people are probably going to be going in the Rockies game.

So 430, 630, come say what's up. We'll be there. What? There's a food challenge there. At Tom's. At the supermarket. Great. Yeah.

So you'll just be doing that to the side. No, that's perfect. I think. Okay. There's a food challenge. He did it with an audience. Here's a little tip. Content tip.

There's a food challenge every place we go. Okay. Because we can come up with one. The best. I will say Billy did. He did a good job prep. The list and like maps and locations and stuff and I was like going through with him at the airport and the one there's like a steakhouse and he's like, it's just like a really nice

steakhouse. And I was like, what's, what is the challenge? He's like, well, they, they definitely have a challenge. I was like, you just want to go. I was like, we definitely can go there. Like it's good to have, you know, good restaurants to find, but like, yeah, this is just a steakhouse like he wanted the boys to go to, which I'm down to. We should go.

Rocky Mountain and oysters. Yeah. I think we're going to find a lot of those though here. Can you eat the most expensive steak on the company card challenge? Damn. Did it. All right. So Dan Campbell's our first.

Easy, easy first pick. I think, I think Dan Campbell could actually step in if, if he, like they didn't draw attention to him entering the game, wearing a full uniform and you just put them like on the defensive line. I actually think he could get two reps in before people were like, who's that guy playing defense tackle? Yes. Yes.

Okay. You guys have next pick. Braves. That was easy. I was going to be so mad if you guys fucked that up. Easy. I know with respect to Vrabel, it's just that you got man Campbell to compete with now. I think also, yeah, like Vrabel is easy number two.

It's more that Dan Campbell, I feel like he just has less to lose. And he cries too. Yeah. Like anytime that somebody cries openly is not afraid. I can't see Vrabel crying. I feel like Vrabel, if he started to like well up with emotion at the podium, he would just like break the microphone and half and leave. And Dan Campbell is like, he channels that emotion.

And also Mike Vrabel is very successful. Like he's won Super Bowls, he's coach of the year. So there's got to be a part of him like, why am I, why am I even in this fight? Where's Dan Campbell? The fight is the most important thing in his life at that moment. This one I think is also pretty obvious, but might not be to the naked eye. It's Sean McDermott. Okay.

He's a little pit bull. He was a back-to-back national prep champion wrestler, like all-time good wrestler. I had a 61-0 record surrounding just one take down. Wow. It's like you're getting a fight. How many people that you're fighting know how to wrestle when the wrestling guys you see in the UFC all the time, you can be a great fighter, you can be a great striker, you can be strong as shit.

All of a sudden the guy takes you down. There's nothing you can do. Yeah. Never fuck with a wrestler. He's an unbelievable wrestler. Never. I had some friends that wrestled for a couple of years in college and they were by far the last guys that you want to fight with.

And they're always the first guys you want to try to get a fight. And they just know how to angle because they're so calm. And they're usually the small guys that says, oh, they can't do anything and then they will just pin you. They're so calm. They get you on the ground, it's over. They get Dan Kamal on the ground, it's over. If they get Vreva on the ground, it's over.

There's nothing, they're getting taken down and they're just going to be choked out. They're just used to physical contact all the time and they're very comfortable. And then this one's more, a little bit more of an obvious one, just size matters, Doug Morone from the Bronx. He's not. Oh, fuck. Fuck. I mean, does he lose your pick?

That should be a vacated pick. Yep. The Vikings. That should be a vacated pick. Fuck. No. Whose choice is that, memes? No, I think you get a pick at the end of the draft.

I think it's like we, we, we skip you and you come back. You still get to do four. Yeah. But I, I mean, that's tough. It's not hard to. He didn't coach last year. It's not hard to have. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Urban Milo. You guys are right. So we'll come back and you'll get another pick. Sure. My bad. Yikes. Memes is bad. Big yikes.

Wait, was it me EU memes? No. Damn. I said it. No one. No one. No one. No one memes under the bus.

No. I mean, I said it like memes supposed to be my guy. Oh wait. So he didn't tell you that you were wrong. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's a team.

Bad job memes. That's a team thing. Okay. All right. You guys next. Fuck. I feel like Mike Tomlin's a good guy to have on your side and fight because he can just look at the opponent.

Or trip. Yeah. He could trip him. Yeah. But like people would just walk away and be like, I'm not fighting that guy. PFT. I feel like we have just great pick. I think we take the list I sent you back when we did the NFL, just NFL coaches.

I think we should go with three and four there. Yeah. I like that a lot. I mean, that's easy. Why don't you go with three and just write in Billy's face? Salah. Yeah. So easy.

So easy. Dude has jacked his hell. He's got his head a little Vin Diesel action going on. He's got long arms too. I feel like he could choke you the fuck out. He's got good reach. We thought it wouldn't take him. We were going to have him later.

Yeah. Yeah. Easy pick. The guys got fucking muscles for days. And does he live in a hotel? Still maybe. I think he's got a house now. He might have a house now.

But anybody that lives in a hotel for months at a time, they can usually handle themselves. Okay. Our next pick, another former player in the NFL, been around forever. Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles. Washed. What? Washed?

You don't, you're lashing out. Todd Bowles would kick your fucking ass. Also he played safety in the 90s. Do you know, do you know how violent of a person you have to be to play safety in the NFL in the 1990s? That's an intense dude too. Yeah. You're just mad because you didn't realize that fucking Bruce Arians isn't the coach

anymore. Doug Morone. I mean, we love Doug, but he literally hasn't been the coach. In a year and a half. Hank is flustered. It's not. That's how bad that pick is. Yeah.

I know. It would be one thing if it was, if it went Doug Morone or Doug Peterson, it's like you got your dugs crossed up. You skipped Urban Meyers entire two win season. How could you? All right. The boys are talking. Go ahead, Billy.

Sean McVeigh. What? He's. Oh my God. High energy. That's a terrible pick. No. That's not a terrible pick.

But he's probably one of the most physical physically able coaches in third and now I'm like, all right, we can, we can fight back Sean McVeigh is who's pick was this Jake? He made, he fucking goes to us a lot and manicures his facial. I green lit it, but it was Billy's idea, but I will take some response to that. He definitely can bring the like out of all the coaches, like he's going to still bring the heat. No, no, he's ready. No.

Absolutely not. Fire starter energy guy. No, dude. He's a Hollywood dude. It takes his shirt off now. Was your fourth pick. Cliff Kingsbury? No.

I think Sean McVeigh is a little more physical and Sean McVeigh, Sean McVeigh is smaller than I am. He's five ten. No, I've stood next to Sean McVeigh. Quite a few times. Yeah. Yeah. He is.

He's I've been there for those. For those standings. Those standoffs. I think, I think you guys are wrong. But Sean McVeigh. Okay. I if if it were like we had to pick every NFL coach, he would eventually get picked. But I don't think he's what is this like the ninth pick.

There are three coaches that's why I don't agree. Yeah. Sean McVeigh is top 20, but not top maybe top nine. I think he's one of the most physically able. Okay. The coaches. Okay. It's not going to fuck you.

Hank, you have two. I mean, these don't count. Let's see if anyone here is still coaching. If you want me to just give the two picks memes at me, Greg, Sean, and Brett Bielma. Okay. So we had those on our list for college. No, no, no, uh, it wasn't Hank's idea to change the leader of this team. Take some accountability.

It was. I know. Yeah, I know. I said that too. We use it. Why would you throw out of the bus there because he just texted me those two seconds ago after that, after that debacle of Doug Maroon, it's all right. It's my team.

My responsibility. Sounds like you got to run a tight ship. No, this is why I love team Mount Rushmore because you were seeing Hank's true leadership. It's why everyone says Barstool is going downhill. We're going to go with another defensive beast coach on the battle on the on the way back, Ron Rivera. There we go. All right.

Yeah. Yeah. We had him on our list. Big dude, physical dude, could pick what, what's, I said, Ron Rivera, he said, he vetoed me with McVeigh. Here's the thing. I pointed it to Ron Rivera and you said, no, I pointed to you, Ron Rivera's to Sean McVeigh's. I know.

I know. It would be. He could complete the eating challenge, which was, yeah, I know if Sean McVeigh wanted to pretend that he was Ron Rivera, he would have to get in a trench coat and go on Sean McVeigh's shoulders. Wait, wait, Billy, did you just say that you didn't want to pick Rivera because no, no, I said he beat the shit out of cancer. He'd be great to have on your team in a fight.

Yeah. Why did you say McVeigh? Because I forgot about Ron Rivera. I mean, I pointed to him. I did. I did before. Well, then why like, I was fine. I'm sure Sean McVeigh beat the shit out of like Botox one day last year where, you know,

the next day your face hurts a little. He came. He bounced back. Oh, thanks. Thank you. Good pick. Well, I want to throw memes under the bus one more time. I know.

Memes doing great. Memes. Love memes. Great guy. Uh, this is where it gets tough. This is, but this is the reason you did say NFL only. You said that. I know.

This is the reason because it gets more attention. We did NFL in college and everyone would just be like, you know, good pick, good pick. There's enough to go around where it's like Sean McVeigh gets picked in the third round. That makes it contentious. So for our third pick should be fourth pick, which is going to get weird at the end, I guess. Uh, more so that he's not a cycle himself, but when you have to grow up with one of the all time psychos in Jim Harbaugh, John Harbaugh is just like, he's been through some

shit. He's fought them all. Yeah. He's definitely got his ass kicked. If it's an NFL coach fighting NFL coaches, like he has more experience fighting an NFL coach, then Harbaugh's don't quit either. Right. Like he wouldn't quit.

I mean, didn't Jim tell us the story? He almost drowned him. He almost drowned him. Yeah. Right. He held his head underwater in the ocean. Yeah. And wait.

Did John, where did John play? Uh, oh, I was going to say somewhere in California, maybe. Yeah, he played a D three. Probably Ohio somewhere then. Where did he play? Did he play? I'm pretty sure. Didn't he play?

He played for the Colts. No. You're looking at the wrong, wrong Harbaugh. Yeah. My name is Ohio. Oh, yeah. Who? Human Body Craves Contact.

It's a good point. Like if he shares DNA. Correct. With Jim Harbaugh. And he's had to fight Jim Harbaugh his whole life. Yes. So it's like, he might not be a fighter himself, but like he again, he knows what it's like. Yep.

I like it. I like it. Um, on your team in a fight, you need size and that's why we're going with Andy Reid. Okay. Good pick. He's Yokozuna. Yokozuna. Yokozuna.

He just sit on someone. He's old and he's huge. He will be. Have you seen his stats? But he's not mobile. His stats. He doesn't need to. He's just throwing hands.

Yeah. That man is fighter. I think the argument for Andy Reid is, no, it's that it would never get to a fight. If you have Andy Reid with you. Like no one would be like, I want to fight that big fucking dude. Also, if, if you dig it into like a big group fight, I feel like two guys have to be hanging off Andy Reid at any given time. Like, like when the Raptors take out the T-Rex in Jurassic Park at the very end.

Spoiler alert. Yeah. That's like what you're looking at in that situation where Andy's got like two other coaches dangling off his arms and then it frees you up to take out the rest. Yes. All right. PFT. What do we want to do with our last one?

It's tricky at this point. So, um, do we go for the brains? Yeah. I think we do. I think, yeah. Yeah. That was what I was, that's what I was debating. I, I thought if we took him into one of you guys would probably take Harbaugh.

Yeah, we would have. So he was, that's where I got, that's where the, the mispick fox me. Yeah. I think Belichick is the kind of guy that probably, he probably works out by boxing. Recreational. He's probably studied like Joe Johnson tapes from 1920 and knows like all the, he probably fights with the like fighting Irish leprechaun hands with the two hands. I also feel like he's a big time, like pressure point guy.

Like he could just walk up to you and like he would faint. Yeah. He did a five finger like heart, heart buster or whatever. Yeah. He also, he feels like he would be kind of similar to, you know, he's a little older now, but Dalton in road, road house where he like sees all the angles and he sees a fucking guy with a knife in his boot before the, the knife even comes out of his boot. So that kind of shit.

Yeah. You need the mental side. All right. I feel great about our four is awesome. Our great about our house. Yeah. We keep getting sad. Yeah.

You screwed up with the Doug Morone and Sean McFair. We've talked about it. But yeah. Now, if that, if we had had Harbaugh and Belichick and our other two, I think we probably don't win, but whatever. I mean, yeah. Doug, that's like the, that you just tank the entire draft. So we got a choice between two here.

I feel like we're playing Mount Rushmore and like the old, like 10 years ago, AFC East. Yeah. Where it's like, I mean, big cat, you know, we might have a couple of days, but you guys, no, but you guys keep finding a way to like shoot yourself. Yeah. Right. It's not. We make great picks.

I did make a mistake today. But this wasn't like this was anyone could have won this one. And there were just mistakes made along the way. You passed up a pick and they put pick Sean McFair. No one said you. Out of tune. And we've won. Yeah.

I mean, really? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Here we go. We'll just go. I'm in between two.

One of the two. No, because it's the last pick. Well, yeah, I'll talk it out. It's Doug Peterson and Dable and not just Doug Peterson. I'm just going to pick Dable because. We almost took Dable. Yeah. I don't really like Doug Peterson.

I'm actually shocked. So Piazza and I had one other name that we're two other names we're throwing around. One, we thought everyone would forget. Lovey Smith, Texan's head coach. Definitely. That age definitely played a factor for me. And then Nick Siriani. We were we were saying on the side text that like Siriani definitely thinks he's rocky.

I think Siriani has a gun. Yeah. I think he carries around a gun with him just like when he's on the streets. Just in case shit goes down. Yeah. And Daniel would have been a funny pick too. Mike McDaniel. I think he'd be like on the flush more.

I think McDaniel is one. Oh, yeah. Yeah. What like with the other ones were McDermott. I mean, I think they Kingsbury Kingsbury. Maybe Josh McDaniel is probably not doing much in a fight. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm trying to think who else would be on the lot of nerd coaches. Brandon Staley. I like him a lot, but I don't. I don't know if he'd be the fight guy. Kyle Shanahan. Well, I guess Kyle played receiver. Yeah. Kyle Shanahan's got a little grit to him.

He definitely has a knife. Yeah. He's a knife guy. He's got some grit under his. He's got one of those switch blades that just like folds down. He just sits there just like playing with it. The floor definitely on the mountain. He couldn't fucking beat up a fucking fly.

No. No chance. Kevin Stefanski. I don't think he's. No. He's too good looking. Yeah. Who's the Bears coach?

Eberfluss. Yeah. Based on name Arthur Smith. Yeah. Although he probably could take a punch with that jaw. Yeah. Or lack thereof. It's like he's got a broken jaw.

Well, no, he never mind. He has no jaw. And so when we originally started to do this, we were talking about college coaches and I thought that your pick of Shiano or Belomo were two. Those are two that I had on the list there. I also had Kalani Sataki because he's the coach at BYU. He actually, his chin just goes into his shoulders. Yeah.

You could not knock that man out. And when we were talking about college coaches, I had obviously hardball, but then Jeff Brahm sneaky for that XFL clip when he was concussed seven different ways. He was just like going to go back in their place football. All the time in our early PMT club. Yeah. Super viral. Yeah.

Oh, Jeff Brahm. White whale. That was joking. That was a joke. Yeah. Sorry. All right. You guys have any other.

Any other thoughts? I mean, we were thinking of Pete Carroll. Oh, Pete Carroll. I could see you could convince me on Pete Carroll and just like he's a fitness freak and he's got age. Like, you know, also would be maybe the worst. Like worse than Mike and Daniel is Matt rule. You just be spitting on himself.

Yeah. Just fucking puke. Like he get punched in the stomach and just puke everywhere. Matt, I think Matt rule would get into a fight and become so overwhelmed. He would just faint like a possum. Yeah. He would just like lay on the ground perfectly. Although I did remember.

I think we're about to interview him once and I read some stories about him. He did. Um, he put when he was trying to turn around temple, he like put on the pads and like tried to fight his players. I love that. Like played ball in the ring. The ball in the ring. He just gets knocked out.

Yeah. He was trying to get some toughness with the temple team. Who else we got? I don't know enough about hack it. I don't know if hack it could kick in the ass. Hack Kevin O'Connell. Probably not. Probably not.

Yeah. I don't know. There's a lot of guys that are just like, eh, probably not. Um, okay. I'm trying to think if there's anyone we missed going through the list in my head. Oh, um, Zach Taylor. No. Oh yeah.

I forgot. You went to a Super Bowl. Yeah. No. And again, I don't think I would recognize him if you were in this room. No. No. Definitely not.

Um, okay. No, definitely not. Um, okay. Let's do numbers. Send everyone off. You got the same. Two. Six to nine.

Big interview coming Wednesday. Grit week. Get excited. Make sure you're following all the accounts. 26. Eight. Jonah. Nine.

81. Um, I will do 27. Whatever number we get, we should play in the roulette table. Mm-hmm. Yes. Here we go. 62. No.

Hit it again so we get our number for roulette. 74. Hit it again so we get our number for roulette. 87. Hit it again so we get our number for roulette. 49. Hit it again so we can get our number for roulette. 70.

Hit it again. 69. Wait, does that count? No. 34. All right, 34. There it is. Playing 34.

Yeah, that's not going to work. Is there a red or black generator that you can hit? Just like randomly? Just flip a coin. Oh yeah. Let's go eat some steaks. Actually, we should flip a coin. Way to get this boy's belly expanded.

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