Pardon My Take - Adam Schefter, Combine Review And Airport Review Number 2 (Madison Airport)
Episode Date: March 4, 2022We’re live from the Combine and running on fumes. Talk about Wednesday night and running into different coaches plus a recap of our trip. Fyre Fest of the week(00:02:46-00:25:19). Adam Schefter join...s the show for his annual airing of grievances where we go through everything, talk big stories, and his future in his career(00:25:19-01:21:47). We finish with the Second Airport Review ever, Madison Wisconsin(01:22:11-01:40:26)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take, we are live from Indie.
Our voices are shit.
We've been on the road for listen.
We did like a basically a two week road trip in two days because we did.
It feels like we did everything.
We have an awesome interview with Adam Schefter.
Incredible. Great to have him back on.
Been two years.
We have a airport review, Madison Airport Review.
Actually, I saw somebody tweeted at you yesterday and said, hey, guys,
you said that you were going to do airport reviews four years ago.
Yeah, what gives? Guess what? You got it.
Number two second one ever.
Was that just my elbow?
I think there's a ghost in the room.
The elbow just turned on this light.
The second airport review ever. Incredible.
It took us a while.
We're basically like the dude who's that fucking nerd that writes Game of Thrones
Tolkien, he doesn't write them anymore.
George R. R. Martin with airport reviews.
All right, so we have that and then we're going to just recap our road trip
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Our voices are shot and we're in the hotel room and we were told that we can't talk too
loud because there's an echo.
We have to get super close to the mic.
Hank is being very helpful in telling us like, OK, this close.
Talk at a normal volume.
We were talking about maybe doing a whisper part of it.
I have no I have no voice anymore.
This this road trip that we just did was two days and it felt like a hundred days
because it like we we didn't sleep and we did everything.
We I mean, obviously Tuesday, you heard Wednesday's show.
I'm still coming down from that high.
I did appreciate that like we were in Indy for the combine where we went out to dinner
last night. We did a couple interviews.
People were coming up to me like congratulating me on the Big Ten championship.
I was like, yeah, that's for you.
Yeah, yeah, I did a lot.
I did a lot of work.
It's good to see pay off.
It's fun going around Indy because this is it's a great place to come visit for like two days.
It's our most visited city.
I challenged any AWL to try to figure out in terms of content road trips.
We were driving to Indy from Madison,
staying beautiful Hoffman Estates on on Tuesday night.
And I said, this has got to be the city.
We've done the most content and visited the most.
So I think it's kind of our second home.
I think it's Indy and then Cleveland.
Maybe Buffalo. Another one.
Yeah, we are. We are the official podcasters of Indianapolis.
That's fact. That's just just a basic fact.
It's our home. I'm going to miss Indy
because like a lot of people I was talking to some some big J's last night
and they were lamenting the fact that this is probably the last year that the combine
is going to be in Indy because the NFL anytime they have something nice.
They're like, well, how can I make this 50 percent shittier but make more money?
Yeah. So they're going to move it.
People are speculating maybe Dallas.
I actually hope that they move it to L.A.
because just to see the big J's just shit themselves.
No, people be so upset.
They're they hate change.
Everybody likes going to the same restaurant on the same nights,
sitting in the same seats year after year after year,
going to the same restaurants, waiting in line at the same Starbucks.
People fucking are in love with this one.
There was a story about it.
I wrote about Starbucks where all the deals get made.
Yeah, this is the best.
This is the most important Starbucks in the world.
And they're going to absolutely flip out when it moves if it moves to L.A.
And they have no idea where anything is.
Yes, it's going to be.
Yeah, it's India's part of the perfect city for the combine.
I mean, we've we've we've I think this is probably our fourth or fifth year
that we've come here.
We obviously missed last year because of covid.
But we've explained it like it's essentially the entire NFL world
shows up to Indy and and all converge at like two steakhouses.
And they all stand around sweaty drinking beers, being like,
I'm getting sick access right now when it's like really just like Matt.
LaFleur is talking to like 15 people at the same time,
which is smart by him, by the way.
We did see him last night.
The only story I have from last night is I don't know if you ran into Pete
Prisco, but he I love Pete so much.
He we were talking and then some guy came up to me and like
not interrupted, but was like, hey, I just wanted to say a big fan.
Like he does next gen stats.
And so he introduced himself and Pete just goes,
let me ask you a question.
When the ball is is this far away from from the goal line.
So he's got his hands like probably like three inches apart.
He's like, what is that?
And the guy's like like one yard to go.
And he's like, and what about when it's an inch in from the two yard line?
What is that?
He's like, it's like one yard to go.
He's like, when you fucking figure that out, you can tell I'll I'll
subscribe to your stats.
And that was it.
Like, and then walked off like the perfect summation of Prisco.
He's the best.
I think he's got a rocking tan right now.
Oh, I don't know how that's possible, but he showed up.
Tannis man in the room.
I saw him coming and he stuck his hand out to shake my hand.
I said, get that hand out of here.
We're going to hug, buddy.
He's the best.
Wrap him up like a little tiny little burrito.
Yes. Yes.
And he's just, oh, and I like he was like, hey, Prisco watches the film,
but he doesn't need stats.
Yeah, it was it was a good time overall.
I got to do my annual three beers with Scott Turner.
Yes.
That's like, if somebody asks you what happens at the combine, it's like,
well, I'm going to get drunk with Scott Turner.
Yes, that's he's a mainstay there.
Got to we met a couple of coaches.
It is weird seeing them.
It's almost like the coaches are in a zoo when they come into that steakhouse.
Yeah, that's it's so uncomfortable.
Everybody there is waiting for like, oh, I'm going to talk to a coach tonight.
It's so it's like a girl at a club being like, oh, I'm going to go home with a baller.
Yeah, it's it's it's like the most uncomfortable feeling to be standing
like in a circle with someone talking.
You can't really hear them.
And everyone's like kind of doing that, like half fake laughing.
Like I'm in this conversation, but I'm not.
Yeah, it's yeah, I mean, I enjoyed more seeing Pete.
And then my arch nemesis, Aaron Nagler, who he actually told me breaking news
that Aaron Rodgers is going to retire.
That's so tag him on all the tweets.
Now, it was crazy.
It was great catching up with him.
But yeah, he was very sad.
He was actually crying when he told me it.
So I had to like console him.
He cried on my shoulder.
He's like, Aaron Rodgers is going to retire.
I was like, dude, I'm sorry.
That's really, really tough.
And he's like, yeah, I'm probably going to just like stop watching football.
Probably. Yeah, it's such a huge fan of not Aaron Rodgers.
He's Aaron Nagler is not a huge fan of Aaron Rodgers football.
He's more a fan of what Aaron Rodgers stands for.
And every the fights that he's taken up in the closet, right?
Exactly represents.
So I feel bad for him.
So maybe we should have a tweet and tell him.
Yeah, I think Aaron said, didn't he tell you he was the modern day Muhammad Ali?
That's what he said.
Yeah, he said it's it's it's incredible what he's done for the sport
and everything that he stands for.
And he's like, it's actually going to be great when he retires
because he's taking a stand against the NFL.
You know what?
Maybe the funniest part of last night was at one point,
I think both of us were talking.
It might have been to I think the floor was there.
We were basically just giving him trade offers.
Yeah.
For Aaron Rodgers and seeing what he would take.
Like like we had any authority whatsoever.
Yes, yes, like making concrete offers.
And it was just like no to all of them.
And I was just doing it for like every other team.
I was like, let's just whatever the farthest destination is.
So yeah, it was a good time.
We had a good dinner.
Hank, you didn't like the calamari.
We ordered a calamari and Hank hates it so much and shrimp cocktail.
No, there's a shrimp cocktail.
There's a shrimp cocktail arm.
The way you're just going to smile on his face.
Have you noticed that the shrimp cocktail sauce was spicier than normal?
No, I think they're trying to compete with St.
Elmo's. So like, I mean, once we got to get a spice off, it's an arms race.
Is what sounds like an article.
Yeah. You know what, Jake, Jake, you should write the article.
I think the term cocktail sauce is getting spicier at prime forty seven.
Yeah, we say it's like we'll what at what point is is it too spicy?
It's a nuclear arms race.
Yeah, like St.
Elmo's is going to eventually just burn your mouth off.
Be like, here's your bill.
You're going to kill us all.
It's fun to do an underground cocktail testing right now.
I'm a war big cat. What?
You've got someone. Oh, dude, I'm just.
Yeah, it's a lot of not like actually locked in like sanctions learning.
Yeah, I'm not like learning anything.
You're the lingo like nuclear options, sanctions, all that stuff.
That's pretty much all I've picked up from this war. Yeah.
Yeah, except and also the fact that like half of Twitter has decided
that the war is like their new favorite Netflix show where they're like,
this fucking president would be so good in Ted Lasso season three.
There's a guy I'm not going to say his name because he doesn't
deserve to have his name said, but he's like everything that he posts
about this fucking war seems like he's like he's an Earth two guy.
Yeah, I got meanwhile on Earth two.
Hillary Clinton has already avoided this, but he just I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of people like using war for class.
It's like, yeah, Billy.
Yeah, exactly. Just fucking shut up and go to Ukraine, dude.
We were actually joking on the way to on the way down.
We were like saying how like Jake, like someday Jake is our will hunting.
Someday we hope that he like no goodbye, no see you later.
He's just like all of a sudden calling like professional sports.
And then we're like, and Billy, he's like he's like the kid
that like never leaves house like he's he's going to live there till he's like
30 or like maybe one day he just goes to war.
He's just like, no goodbye, no see you later.
He's just got a fucking rocket launcher in Kiev the next day on Twitter.
I told Billy the other day, like just think think of how viral
your video of you coming home to Whitey would be if you went overseas as a true.
Yeah, that's true. Probably break the great point.
That's a great point.
I don't think there's a lot of the ton of sports stuff.
Obviously, there's some good college basketball games.
The Sixers are officially like if you if you're an Eastern Conference team,
I James Harden and Joel and Beed last night, like
they just basically run pick and roll and then no matter what,
it ends up either in a layup or like the best case scenario is it's a free throw
and they maybe miss one.
This might just be the fact that I took James Harden over two and a half,
three pointers and he only had two.
But I noticed him.
He was like going out of his way to make passes when he was wide open for a shot.
He's a good teammate. He's a great teammate.
I think that James Harden, he's really figured it out this time.
I think he's going to be smooth sailing.
Maybe he's maybe he's like that's the key to James Harden.
You just need six month rentals where it's like he's going to be in shape.
He's going to be happy.
He's going to try really hard.
You lease him. Yeah, you don't buy. Yeah, exactly.
Never never buy James Harden. Always lease him.
Yeah, they're awesome.
And then also, did you see Coach K requested to be in the Midwest region
because he wants to play his last?
Well, he's being a little presumptuous
because he's saying he's going to be in the sweet 16 play in Chicago, his hometown.
So it's like he he requested that.
I don't I mean, I'm sure the NCAA is going to do.
They're probably just going to put all 16 seeds in his bracket, right?
Probably he I think they're letting him pick the teams that he gets to play against.
I am going to hate watch Saturday night
more than I've ever hate watched anything in my life.
Oh, the mega cast is it's and they're doing like a lead up
where they have like every player that ever played for Duke,
like like saying their statements and stuff.
It's Roy Williams did it right.
Roy Williams went out the right way. Absolutely.
That's a classy ass coach.
They should do on the mega cast.
They I am going to miss them because I miss anyone that I hate.
They should just straight up have like every hateable Duke player
on like in the coach's room, like they do on the national championship game.
What if get Latiner, get Grayson Allen, get J.J.
Redick, get them all.
You know what they should do?
They should get all those guys and they should do like the the version
of the Haka and slap the floor one last time for coach.
I like that.
In the Duke Haka, like a step team.
That's their step team.
And yeah, the yeah, it's going to be.
I will miss him, because I did.
I mean, sports, there's the fun in sports is rooting for your team,
but also hating your rivals and hating the teams that you hate.
And I will miss him as a foe.
I absolutely will.
I hope. Yes.
And about like military strategy.
Yeah, he was in the army.
He was. It's also very funny, because we were driving.
I asked a quiz question to these to everyone in the car,
which was just a fact that I learned the night before.
And I was like, how many years do you think Jim Bayheim has been at Syracuse?
I think the answers were like 35.
He's been at Syracuse for 46 years and he's still not retiring.
If it came out today, he was like, there's a there's a plan in place.
And like all the beat writers are like, what's the plan?
He's like, I'm not going to tell you the plan, but there's a plan in place.
He's probably going to have his son's takeover.
Yeah, but he's coaching next year 100 percent.
Yeah. Oh, it's crazy.
Forty six years, forty six years.
That's a long time to do anything.
And like this is a long time to live.
Yeah, it's a long time to like be in a house,
be in the same house, be in the same city, be in the same country.
So yeah, what else?
Anything else from sports world before we do fire?
First, we do firefest before Schefter.
And then we'll do Madison Airport Review to finish the show, which was great.
Anything else?
I'm waiting on pins and needles right here to figure out what Kenny Pickett's
hand size is going to be. Oh, yeah, doing the measurements right now.
Again, released Daniel Jeremiah, DJ himself keeps tweeting about it.
So funny to see when when they like the way they write heights down.
It's like oh, six oh, two six foot two.
You can say like six to like military works.
You know, they've deputized themselves as being like in the infantry.
And then Kenny Pickett's hand size.
I talked to like a lot of people last night about Kenny Pickett's hands
and they're talking about like the different stretches.
Yeah, no, quite a sentence.
I did because he's doing the stretches.
So I'm very curious to know, like, how much bigger can one make their hands
via stretching? I think a quarter inch, probably.
So he's up to like eight and a half now. Yeah.
I mean, it's still very, very small.
I think, like, you know, oh, here we go.
It just came in breaking news, breaking moves, breaking moves, breaking moves.
Kenny Pickett's hands measured at eight point five inches.
Oh, there we go.
So he got that extra quarter got the quarter inch.
He definitely got that quarter.
Shepter got that first.
Shepter. Well, I don't know.
I just have alerts for Shepter.
By the way, we are definitely writing the blog.
If you're listening to this right now, we're going to have Shepter on in a second.
But Shepter is officially talking to Barstool.
Also, I was giving him the water in the beginning of the interview
and Big Cat didn't want to redo it.
What? Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that was good.
I mean, people like to see the behind the scenes how the sausage made.
I was listening to it, though, and it looks.
It sounds stupid. Very confusing.
Yeah, well, that's how the sausage gets made.
All right.
Should we do Firefest?
One take, Dan.
Yeah, one take, Danny.
Should we do? Should we do Firefest?
By the way, just one last PSA.
We are now officially.
So this Saturday, change of clocks.
Is it go ahead or back?
It's spring forward, forward, forward.
So you're changing the clock, Saturday.
We finally get more sunlight.
What happened is we screwed it up last year
because we said spring back.
Right. And so a lot of people were mad at us
because that's what we screwed up.
Spring forward.
It's spring forward on Saturday.
Well, it's technically Sunday morning.
Yes, Sunday morning.
Sunday morning, 1 a.m.
More sunlight at the end of the day.
Set your clocks forward.
Yes. So we're good.
So just a reminder, everyone,
because you don't want to be the guy who's late on Monday morning.
Hank, you're Firefest.
So we talked about it.
We were on the road late.
We left Wisconsin midnight, drove for two hours.
I was pretty hungry down there.
I had some food, but I was starving.
We get there.
The hotel has like a little snack shack area.
And they had this like trippy Cheetos mac and cheese.
I got two of them.
I was starving.
I'm like, to eat this, go to sleep, get fueled up.
Wait, Cheetos mac and cheese, that's sick.
I know.
Is it Cheetos like flavored cheese
or is it Cheetos in the mac and cheese?
Like Cheetos flavored.
Like, I don't know.
Well, I couldn't tell you a PFT
because I got to my fucking room.
Look around everywhere.
I opened every cabinet, every drawer, every closet.
No microwave.
They sell microwavable snacks
and they don't have microwaves in their rooms.
That's disgusting.
I was furious.
That's fucked up.
I was thinking about making like hot water
and then pouring that in,
but I didn't think that was gonna work.
That's so fucked up.
I don't think the water can get hot enough
in the hotel for that.
So I went to bed starving and angry.
Did you try to crunch on them?
Just like raw doggies?
No.
Just drink water.
Yeah.
Like just drink water?
Yeah.
Just a belly full of water?
That's all I had.
Like a deer?
Damn.
It was infuriating.
Yeah.
I feel like you've been hungry this entire trip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm trying to catch up.
I'm trying to catch up.
That was my catch up.
You were buying.
That was my get right meal.
And you just couldn't get right.
Yeah.
Cause last night like we went out to dinner
and it was a late reservation.
It was like 9.30 is the only one we had
and Hank was like, yeah, that's six I ate dinner.
And then he went to another dinner.
Healthy meal.
Yeah.
You gotta catch up.
We had a microwave in the lobby
but didn't think to tell anybody like,
hey, you have to use this one.
It is bullshit.
If you sell microwavable foods
you should have a microwave in the rooms.
Most rooms do.
I actually don't know how it is
because I've changed the OMAD diet
but I haven't, I don't do it correctly
where I just eat one meal a day
but it's, I eat so far past full
that I'm just sick for the rest of the day.
And then I'm not hungry again.
But it's definitely not.
I watched you eat seven ice cream sandwiches
was like difficult.
Four.
Four.
I thought it was a bit.
It's called,
you're like pulling them out of your sweatshirt pocket.
It's called cooling down the core.
Do you ever see Chernobyl?
When the reactors don't get cool fast enough?
My body was overheating.
I needed to cool the core down.
It's like when a horrific like hit in the NFL
and they have to do that crazy thing
where they basically-
They inject your body with ice.
Yeah, and they basically cool you down
so that your body can like heal.
That's essentially what I do with ice cream.
I cool my body down.
Don't hate on it.
Also, if you keep it in your pockets,
you're cooling your skin down, your belly too.
Yeah, exactly.
I did.
There was a moment, yeah, in the second half
where I was like, I'm like, I'm cramping.
I got so tired cheering at a basketball game.
I put my hands on my knees at one point.
I had to take a blow.
Yes, yes, yes.
All right, P.F. to your firefest.
Kevin Durant responded, by the way.
No, he saw it though.
Yeah, he's, I'm just gonna keep,
we're gonna get him on eventually, never, never.
My firefest of the week is that
we're all fat pieces of shit compared to Evan Neal.
Oh.
So have you seen the pictures of him?
Evan Neal, who could be the first pick in the draft
from Alabama.
He's six foot seven, like 337 pounds,
and he's like way skinnier than I am.
Yeah.
It's ridiculous.
He's like a freak like Aaron Donald,
where it's like you shouldn't be what you are.
His body shouldn't exist.
Right.
It was like built in a lab.
I guess he'd probably get like the heaviest bones
in the world.
Can I see a picture?
You wanna see a picture?
I think I got several saved on my phone.
Just shirtless?
Shirtless, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Let me see this.
No, I'm typing his name into Twitter.
I think I did, by the way,
it's gonna be the greatest PMTV that we've ever had
on YouTube.
When is it gonna drop, Bubba?
Tuesday?
Next Tuesday?
It will be everything.
I think there's a moment when you were painting my belly
that I said like, you know, me and Aaron Donald
are kind of got the same physique
if I just worked out a little more.
Look at that.
Oh wow, that's great.
How much is he weight?
340 pounds.
That looks like the after picture
of like he was 1,000 pounds,
like the biggest loser.
This is ridiculous.
They're getting too big.
He's going to be a monster.
Look at this picture of him,
this is bad radio,
but look at this picture of him at the podium.
Yeah, he's legitimately a skinny man.
Someone's gonna draft him
and be like, you gotta put on 30 pounds.
Yeah, no, there's gonna be like some coach,
some strength and conditioning or nutrition coach.
It's like, this is the perfect frame
for me to work my mask piece.
You know what?
He could probably get up to 400 pounds
and still look regular.
Yeah, that's nuts.
That is crazy.
That is wild.
My other firefests of the week
is we've lost our darling Jake.
I don't know, should we sanction Jake?
No, I actually think we should let him.
I think we should maybe sanction him.
I think that was good for him.
Jake's, Jake is sanctioned.
So he was on stool bench, Bob, his podcast.
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They had an awesome interview with Tyler Handsboro,
Psycho T.
He lost his cool.
He swore not once, but twice.
I loved it.
I think we need to encourage it.
He dropped the F-bomb.
Yeah.
Like deployed the nuclear F-bomb.
Which is good.
Yes, it was a pig.
Jake is hereby suspended for part of my take
for the rest of today's episode.
Okay, I think Jake though,
should like Putin,
should just have the case of F-bombs open.
Don't use them, but just have them.
Ready to go.
Well, now Rico knows that he's got them.
It's called F-bomb off.
It's called deterrence.
Yeah.
That's what the policy is.
You can get a can at your head for that.
That's what the policy is.
You get a can at your head.
All right.
My fire fest is my streak ended
and I should never gamble on the road.
So it's terrible.
Gambling on the road is the worst.
I was 10 and 0, 10 in a row.
I'm now 0 and 3.
I'm gonna get back to it.
Also, my fire fest is like going back
on Tuesday to Madison and having that night
just like makes me be like, damn,
college is pretty fucking sweet.
I wish I was back there.
Which is not like a thought you should have
as a 37 year old.
I think it's fine to have that thought.
It is.
Because you don't act on it.
Exactly.
It is to momentarily have that thought,
but you don't want to be the dude who's in his late 30s
sitting around being like,
man, college is so sweet.
Like, I wish I could go back there right now.
No, it's actually good that you have a weekend
where you get it all out of your system
as opposed to constantly thinking about going back.
And then you repress that and then you find yourself
sneaking off in the middle of the night,
finding a college.
Yeah, then you got a fucking earring in a Corvette
and the whole life is falling apart.
Then it's a totally messy situation.
But it was awesome to be back.
I still am like, that was fucking,
that was the perfect night.
It was the absolute perfect night.
And this is March.
I'm very excited for March Madness.
Very excited for conference tourney week.
We got some big guests coming up, right?
Huge.
Huge.
Mark Titus.
That's not the biggest guest.
If you apologize, that's what he said.
That was confusing.
That's not the headliner.
He's like, no, he's not.
He's not even starting five.
He's, you need to apologize for what he's done.
No, I love Mark.
He's on the Mount Rushmore of guests.
Okay, let's get to Adam Schefter and before,
or sorry, Adam Schefter.
Then we're gonna finish with our airport review
and then we'll have numbers at the end.
Before we get to Adam Schefter,
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Now here is Adam Schefter.
Ooh.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest,
recurring guest, great friend of the program.
It is Adam Schefter.
That was a great intro.
That was a solid intro.
Well, let's just keep going.
All right, so, Schefti, thank you for coming on.
We have a theory, and this is where we're gonna start.
We haven't seen you.
I can't wait to see where we're gonna start.
Like, I'm waiting for the man to fly out,
fall out of the ceiling.
Credit to you.
For somebody to come onto the table.
We have no tricks.
I'm waiting for it.
No tricks.
Where are we going?
A salt, where are we going?
A salt, a salt.
Credit to you, you always, you, whenever I text,
I'm like, hey, you wanna come on?
You're like, yup, just tell me when.
So we were thinking about it.
We haven't seen you in two years.
You haven't been on in two years
because last year, obviously COVID, no combine.
Do you think that we've been more mean to you
in the last year,
because we haven't seen you recently?
Because we thought about it.
So I heard.
So I was like, I think we were too mean to Schefti
because we, like, this is our reset every year,
our annual reset where we see you,
we have some laughs, we have some fun,
and then we go about our ways and we're like,
next time we're gonna dunk on Schefti,
we like pause for a second and maybe don't go as far.
Until you wind up dunking the next time.
Yeah, we still dunk on it.
But it is like the annual airing of grievances.
Where we get all our grievances, right?
No, we have grievances.
You gotta start working on it.
I know, you'll ask me about all the grievances, right?
We'll get to all of them.
You want me to throw them out?
Like, where are we going?
Well, which one do you think is the most grieving?
Well, I figured that Cliff Kingsbury
signed his contract today.
I was just saying.
I think you could start right there.
Did you like Oklahoma?
Yeah.
What happened?
I thought he called Oklahoma.
Let me say something.
If he wanted the job, he had the job.
Okay.
And I know everybody said,
oh, his agent called Adam to tell him this and to plan.
Let me tell you this.
I'm sitting on my couch Sunday afternoon.
I get a call from somebody.
Not in the Cliff Kingsbury camp.
Connected to the Arizona Portals.
Cliff Kingsbury's mom.
Yeah, his mom called him.
I said, are you aware of the fact that Oklahoma
is kind of after him?
And I said, no.
And they said, they are.
And I said, okay.
Well, I made a couple more calls and found out
that if he wanted that job, he could have it.
Now, it was portrayed as I'm giving Cliff Kingsbury,
I could care less.
You did get leverage.
Great.
Good for him.
You know what?
His record is gonna give him the leverage he wants
or doesn't want.
That's true.
So under that same argument though,
is Bill Belichick not open for every college job every year?
Well, again, do I think Cliff Kingsbury
is gonna go to Oklahoma?
Probably not, but I'm just telling you that-
It was talked about.
There were people that weekend reaching out to him.
Ask him if he wanted the job.
So my question to you would be,
if there was an NFL head coach
that was receiving interest from a college
about becoming a head coach,
whether or not he wanted it, would that be newsworthy?
It could be.
And again, we don't know what your source was on this.
I trust your source.
It's probably rock solid.
Yeah, it was.
But there is like, I think in this past year,
there's become more of that-
Skepticism.
Skepticism.
It's unbelievable.
By the way, I live it every time.
Yeah, I think it's fair to have some skepticism
because you are, I mean, you do have a lot of power.
Do you know how powerful you are?
You're a powerful man.
Do you think the skepticism is just-
I'm not powerful enough to be on the Wisconsin podium.
Boys did a big intro.
That's true, but you might be powerful enough,
hypothetically, to say Jimmy Garoppolo has outperformed
performed expectations and is a big part of why
the San Francisco 49ers are where they are right now.
You know what I said was?
What I said was?
I have the whole quote.
Jimmy Garoppolo, simultaneously, has raised his value
to other teams in the league, which he did.
Both the 49ers and other teams in the offseason trade market.
What is wrong with-
49ers would not be where they are today without him.
I think the timing of it was what did it for me
because it was just like out of the clouds, Adam.
It was a Sunday afternoon.
You woke up and you were playing that day.
I'm going to gas up Jimmy G today.
Was that a direct one-for-one trade that Don Yee gave you
so that you get the Brady news?
100% not Don Yee news.
In fact, I did speak to Don Yee afterwards
on the Tom Brady news.
Yeah.
Oh, we got to go through this time.
We're going to go through all this.
I knew we weren't coming here to talk about the four ice cream
sandwiches in 28 minutes.
I knew we weren't doing that.
Ultimately, you were right about the Brady news.
Yes.
I want to hear all of it.
But there's got to be a moment for you
like after you put the Brady news out there
and then it starts to get disputed,
even if you think like, yeah, your sourcing is rock solid on it.
Well, here's the thing on any story, right, anytime.
What you always wonder about is you
can say that this guy, this team is doing this.
Things get out.
Dynamics get changed and shifted.
That's what you always wonder about, right?
Material change.
And so he was retiring.
I mean, there were other plans.
He's doing a movie.
He was talked about as a limited owner of the Miami Dolphins.
His family was like, the decision had been made.
He was retiring.
And we reported it.
Yeah, again, it's shocking to me sometimes
how some of these things take on a life of their own.
The Jimmy Garoppolo thing, he was being ripped on all year long.
They were in the playoffs.
They made a deep run.
Did he not raise his value in the postseason?
I think he did.
Don Yee never said anything.
In fact, on the Tom Brady thing to get back to Don Yee,
the first contact I had with Don Yee was afterwards when he called.
He said, and my wife was in the office.
And I haven't talked about this before,
but I'm in my office.
It was a Saturday afternoon.
It was a snowstorm in New York.
Wife is sitting there.
Don Yee calls.
And he's like, why would you not call me in advance?
I said, I did call you multiple times.
Left messages.
Never heard back from you.
He said, I have a statement I want to read to you.
Now, when he said that, I will say, OK, what do we got here?
Like, what is this statement going to be?
Because that statement could be what?
It could be sued.
Or it could be like, other people said it's wrong.
Or whatever, sued.
What am I getting sued about for?
I don't know.
Slander.
You're right, defamation.
Yeah, defamation.
You said something really, you said something interesting
right there, which is that Tom Brady was talked about
as a limited owner of the Dolphins.
That seems like that.
That conveys the supposed bad blood
that we've all talked about between Brady and the Patriots.
That might be even more real if he's
going to get in the division.
Now we're really coming up with conspiracy theories.
No, I don't think that's that far off.
I hadn't thought about it like that.
What do you think about the theory that maybe?
But hold on, but I want to go back to the one on one.
Because you were saying it was a one on one on Jimmy Garoppolo
when I didn't speak to Don Yatel after the fact.
There are people who, media critics,
like, why would you not reach out to the Asian?
I did reach out to the Asian.
The Asian never responded, never responded.
In fact, I remember he was saying he was sitting out
by a citrus tree that day.
That's nice.
Well, he's like Don Corleone.
What's going on here?
I guess so.
So what was the statement?
It was the statement that you tweeted, right?
The statement was that whatever I put out there,
that Tom hasn't made it.
Tom is the only one that'll announce his decision,
and he'll do it when he's ready.
OK, so was there ever a moment that you were like, uh-oh?
Because this is obviously an enormous, enormous story.
It's a great football player of all time.
You're basically saying he's retiring.
He's saying, no, I'm not.
You know what's funny?
I remember back in the day, I reported a Tony Romo on a Monday.
It was a 4 o'clock in the afternoon.
The Cowboys and Eagles were playing for the division
championship.
It was Monday, 4 o'clock.
We had just finished NFL Live at ESPN.
We were in the studio, and I get a call that Tony Romo needs
back surgery.
And I reported back surgery, and it's the Cowboys.
And it's for the Plough spot.
And they're playing the Eagles, and all the media forces
mobilize at the Cowboys training complex.
And ESPN sends everyone they got there.
And Jason Garrett walks out, and all the people
start screaming, what's the deal with Tony Romo?
We'll see if he's in practice tomorrow.
We'll see if he's in practice.
My boss is, you sure you got your information right?
You sure you got your information right?
And I had somebody on the ESPN staff text me.
Hey, you might want to soften your report now.
Again, when you report, you report it for a reason.
You're going to walk it back at that point.
Yeah, it's not soft for this report.
It's just saying, hey, retract your statement real quick.
You're saying, do you worry about it?
Listen.
There wasn't a moment.
Because it was obviously very, like I even said,
I was like, I'm kind of, I don't have no dog in this fight,
but I'm kind of hoping Tom Brady plays five more years.
That's why I brought in Jeff Darlington as my body shell.
I mean, Jeff Darlington is great, and he knows what he's doing.
So I figure, you know, people are going to come after us.
Let him go to Jeff Darlington, not me.
Well, we did the, we gave Jeff credit for it.
As you should, as you should.
How does that work out when you're splitting a scoop
with somebody?
It's like, more credit for everybody else.
I don't need any.
But deep down, give it to me.
Not one moment where you're like, uh-oh, Adam.
No, no, you know what it was?
It was like picking up my daughter at school on Monday,
and she's in seventh grade, and she gets in the car,
and she's like, dad, why is everybody mad at you
over Tom Brady?
Why are there articles in the New York Post about you
about Tom Brady?
I'm like, oh, because we reported that he's going to retire,
which he did the next morning.
Which, again, I mean, it's just amazing, right?
It was crazy, and I still think, though, deep down,
there was one moment where you're like, oh, man.
Peaboy, you did it again.
You put yourself in a pickle.
Peaboy never peed his pants.
Now, do you think, now, let's transition to this,
because you broke the news before Tom Brady could.
Do you think you're partially to blame for Tom Brady not
adequately thanking Hank and Patriots Nation,
because he didn't have enough time?
Well, I think Tom should have thanked Hank and Patriots
Nation.
I thought that was out of line.
Correct.
That Hank was not cited in there.
He was, eventually.
And honestly, I was quite surprised
that Tom didn't come under the scrutiny and criticism
that Jeff and I did for our reporting of the story,
because that, to me, was a much more major transgression.
That was more valid.
That criticism was more valid.
Tom Brady's reporting was incorrect on himself
when he put the skepticism out there.
You ended up being right.
Do you take a victory lap after all that?
What's that like when you're vindicated?
You celebrate a good scoop?
No.
Just go on to the next one?
I mean, there's relief.
Like, OK, this is over.
Like, my daughter's not going to hear anything at school.
She got kids saying things to her.
I don't like that.
No, that's fucked up.
Yeah.
Is that legit?
So she's actually encroaching on your territory a little bit.
Or is that you also using her as a bodyguard against you?
No, she broke it, not me.
Yeah, that'd be a good idea to just credit her on the scoops.
And no one's going to get mad about her boxing one.
Or just have her do the reverse scoops.
So one of you is right.
I was doing a thing with Rich Eisen earlier this year.
And he said, we're talking about my daughter doing stuff
on Nickelodeon on Slime Time, which honestly was probably
the coolest thing of the whole year by far.
Because for years, I took my daughter to work with me.
And this year, for the first time,
she took me to work with her.
Because I walked in the Tuesday morning
after the Pittsburgh Cleveland Monday night game.
And I had a 6 AM flight back from Pittsburgh.
And I left the hotel like 3 30 in the morning.
And I remember walking in by 8 15 and thinking,
I'm going back to bed for an hour.
I walk in, 8 20 the phone rings.
And it's Nickelodeon.
The regular host, young Dylan, can't make it that day.
Could my Dylan, or my daughter, Dylan, make it?
I'm like, OK, well, there goes that nap.
So literally turned around, went into the city.
And it was the coolest thing ever to watch her work.
But in talking to Rich, at one point,
he was like, has she ever gotten scoophage information
that you've kind of picked up?
I said, no, but you know what?
She had Jamar Cheson early in the year.
And she was talking to him about his nickname, or why he wore
what, and everybody calls him Uno.
And his brother was born on the first.
And his father was born on the first.
And there was a lot of Unos in the family.
Well, somehow that kind of made its way into reporting.
And my daughter, I guess, triggered
this little insight on Jamar Cheson.
Yeah, that's her first scoop.
So Tom Brady, she was the one that initially came to me.
And she said, I just want to give you a heads up.
We canned our Tom Brady Nickelodeon interview.
But he told me he's going to tell.
I'm not going to use it.
I think it benefits the family more if you report it.
But you didn't tag her.
So I brought in Jeff Darlington.
We knocked her out.
Yeah, Jeff Darlington is actually just a fake person.
Correct.
He's just like one of the CGI bosses.
Jeff Darlington is the alias for Dylan, Jeff.
OK, OK.
So Tom Brady, chances he plays again.
Today, I would say, not going to play again.
Today never.
Well, listen, today, March 2nd, as we did,
I don't think he's going to play again.
How he's going to feel in July and August when people are
going back to training camp, when we're talking football,
when you guys got Blake Bortles coming on and he's
going to be getting a job somewhere or something
like that, right?
Like, he may get the itch.
That sounds like a shot at Blake right there.
No, I've got rabbit ears.
Blake's your guy.
Blake's your guy.
Blake, is Blake going to get signed somewhere?
Is there a buzz?
There are a lot of teams that need a lot of quarterbacks.
I think he's going to get it.
I think he might have another opportunity.
I've heard that simultaneously, Blake Bortles
has raised his own stock, as well as the stock of the New
Orleans Saints after he played on the team.
And there are a lot of teams calling about him.
Would you say that's fair?
Confirmed.
Confirmed.
Next grievance, are you Shams kind of encroaching on your
territory now?
Shams is?
Yeah.
Oh.
James, he broke that in your face.
How'd that feel?
Credit to Shams.
Well, I guess, you know what, it's sort of like, who was the
guy that got dunked on the other?
It was Jacob Potil by John Moran, right?
Yeah, you put it perfectly on the table.
I feel like Jacob Potil right now.
But you've dipped in the NBA.
So now it's like a tit for tat.
They're going to come on your turf.
Is that a turf war?
I'm coming for more NBA news.
Really?
Because I've noticed that you're throwing down the Gauntlet
right now.
Wow.
You've been slacking on the NBA news.
You've been laser-closing.
You know what happened?
COVID happened.
And they've got a host of NBA reporters.
They don't really need me.
Ma was just like a fun kind of thing to do.
And so anytime that they have a game in Philadelphia or
Brooklyn, I'm happy to go do that.
Nobody from ESPN has asked me to do that.
That's just you.
That's like what you do for fun.
Your hobby is I'm going to report on a different sport.
And just dunk over and beat everyone to that.
When I did do that, I did about a half dozen NBA games.
That was fun.
The only thing that wasn't really fun was I remember we
were getting ready for the draft.
And they said, could you do a playoff game?
I'd love to do a playoff.
That would be awesome.
The only thing I asked is, we're getting ready for the
draft.
We're still getting out of free agency.
Could you just keep me close by?
So they only sent me to Salt Lake City to do the Utah Jazz.
So I appreciated it.
It was very thoughtful of them.
You got to pay your dues, man.
Yes.
Exactly.
You're starting over in NBA.
I go to Salt Lake City.
And the funny thing is I lived in Denver for almost 16 years.
When I get out of the plane, and by about 12 o'clock, I had
so much altitude sickness that I couldn't.
I mean, it came up on you really quick.
Really.
And you would have thought that living in Colorado, maybe
you would have been used to.
No.
No, us short guys, we don't do well with heights.
It's awful.
I'm not used to the air up there.
It's too thick.
It was terrible.
So they hadn't sent me back to Salt Lake City on another
assignment or anything like that.
So we'll see.
Where are Manners?
We didn't even have that.
How's the knee doing?
Yeah.
Oh, I asked them in the elevator.
You said everyone asked them.
Oh, yeah, how was it?
The two things that we get asked more about, Tom Brady and the
knee, the knee probably won't.
And the desk tape.
And the desk tape, where is it?
I've never done that in a long time.
We had to bring that.
That's always going to come up.
I've always, I wrote it right here, desk tape.
Where is it?
It is somewhere on the bottom of the ocean.
OK, I would like to see it.
All right, but yeah, the knee.
So yeah, yeah, how's the knee?
Assault.
You know, the knee, what happened was that night,
I want to set the record straight a little bit,
because Steve Young was the white guy doing the gritty,
like all over the field.
And I'm with Booger and Randy, and we're having a good time.
And so we're trying to stay warm.
So I just did.
I didn't realize the camera would capture me and that my
knee would get injured.
And so I went in, I got an MRI.
And again, injury information that has not been revealed
anywhere else, we'll reveal it here, but we scheduled
surgery, knee surgery for after the Super Bowl.
My doctor, he'll appreciate Dr. Freeman.
Shout out.
And we decided what we'd do is we'd do an aggressive form
of physical therapy leading up to the Super Bowl,
take two weeks off, see how it felt after.
I got to tell you, feels pretty good.
So low surgery.
Not right now.
So you gutted it out for the rest of the year.
You're like, you know what, I'm going to put it off for my
team.
I'm going to continue to show up at work, do my best,
play through pain.
You know what the worst part about?
How many players have we seen do that, right?
Like you just say, like they need the shirt.
And they're like, you know what, screw it.
I'm not getting it.
I'm going to play right through it.
Yeah, that's what we did.
It's refreshing to see.
Thank you.
I think the worst part about that visual wasn't
necessarily the dance.
It was awful.
It was the boots you were wearing.
The boots were bad.
Here's the thing, here's the thing.
I'm not going to let you defend these.
There is no, here's the thing.
No, there is a thing.
There is a thing.
Of course there's a thing.
Fur on them?
We were in Buffalo the week before,
where I'm being blown out of chairs.
So are we?
Yeah, we were.
It wasn't that cold.
Yeah, it wasn't that cold at all.
It wasn't cold.
It wasn't that cold.
No, it wasn't.
We actually took our shirts off because it was so hot
in the suite.
Well, I will say this.
I am very soft.
Very soft.
OK.
You're not.
You're not.
Very soft.
Will you play through a ministry?
Yes, I can do that.
But put me in the cold?
I don't do well.
I can't stand it.
And so we're on the feel in Buffalo,
where you say it wasn't that cold.
I had a little bit of a different interpretation of it.
And we were joking.
We were in a suite the whole time.
OK, well, there you go.
But we were sure it was.
Yeah.
Well, to me, it was freezing.
That wind was unbelievable.
And so we went to Chicago.
Now, what was notable about that trip, not only was the knee,
but I flew out with a guy in my row.
In the plane, he continues to take off his mask.
Two hours flight from New York to Chicago.
Jail.
What's his name, Aaron Rodgers?
Coughing, sneezing, wiping his nose the entire time.
And then when we got off the plane,
I'm walking outside.
Like literally, the guy's like walking right behind me.
Two days later, I get home on Wednesday, scratchy throat.
Big C.
Coughing.
Hold on.
Three days later, the entire Shepter family.
Big C.
Big C.
Everybody.
Everybody tested positive.
That guy.
Was that Aaron Rodgers?
That asshole on the plane.
I'm telling you, there's no doubt my guy.
That guy on the plane gave me.
So I damaged my meniscus and got COVID, but we played through it.
This is a great way to just totally get us off track of these boots.
Because I don't know how he got to say it.
So the boots.
I completely forgot about the boots.
His whole family got COVID.
I went on a journey with you.
Just answer the boot question.
That motherfucker.
Boot.
Here's what happened.
That motherfucker almost killed your daughter.
That's disgusting.
My wife is a type one diabetic.
Literally, literally, we had to get her IVs to kind of help bring her along.
Because that's dangerous for that type one diabetic.
And it was that asshole on the plane that gave it to me.
I'm so pissed off about him.
The boot.
Buffalo haunted about how cold I was.
I'm like, I don't really care.
Like on a set, I don't care if I'm wearing fur boots and fur mittens
and fur earmuffs.
I'm going to be warm in Chicago.
Now it wasn't that bad that night.
It was cold.
So I'm not expecting to get up from the desk.
I'm not expecting to be shimming around on the field with Randy and Booger and following
Steve's lead.
But I was.
And so yeah, you caught me in these furry boots.
But you know what?
They were warmer than what I could normally wear.
And honestly, I don't care what it looks like as long as I stay warm on the road.
That's all I really care about.
Did you consider reaching out to Dr. James Andrews?
Were you like, you know what?
I'm basically in the NFL.
Let's see if I can get an A-lister to do my knee.
No, but you know, there was a time in the Super Bowl of Miami where I was working for NFL
Network at the time and came down with a violent, violent stomach virus.
Like I had to go to the hospital.
Is your immune system OK?
Maybe not.
Maybe not.
I'm concerned about your body.
As you should be.
Too many donuts in the morning, too much coffee.
Big cat probably can understand, right?
Yes, yes.
And so.
I'm healthy like an ox.
I don't feel sick.
I've had COVID like three times.
No big deal.
Get right through it, right?
Every strain.
I was sick at the NFL Super Bowl.
Brought me on set.
They had a couple of the NFL doctors assigned to the teams looking after me.
I never got well that week.
I literally could not eat.
I was in the hospital.
Wait, the Miami one?
The New Orleans.
Oh, New Orleans.
Indianapolis.
Back in the day.
Got it, got it, got it.
So Prince Super Bowl.
So no, that was Indianapolis, Chicago.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Yep.
Indianapolis, New Orleans.
Was that also Miami?
That was Miami.
Okay.
All our years blend together.
Yeah, they do.
After a while, it's hard to.
Here's a tough question for you.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yep.
You just told us about the meniscus, right?
You didn't get surgery.
You're a free agent coming up.
Do you think maybe potential people now will hear this and be like,
well, we want to sign him, but his knee could blow at any moment.
I mean, that's got to be a concern.
I'm now putting that as a red flag.
We're at the combine.
That is an official red flag.
This is similar to the Jimmy G thing.
He's getting shoulder surgery right now.
We're buying, you know, if someone's like, hey, I want to get Adam Schefter.
He might, it might just blow up.
It could.
You could be on the DL.
And I'm trying to find a good deal.
Like I've been following some of these bets of the year.
And so.
Game of the year.
So you know, are you going to get into the gambling industry?
Because that's, listen, that's my theory.
I think you're a smart guy and you've proven yourself at NFL Network and ESPN.
You've worn the big J and heavy.
Heavy is the head that wears the big J sometimes.
I feel like the gambling industry right now is throwing so much money at people.
It's going to be hard for you to say no.
Well, I think the times are changing.
I think it's a different day and age.
But I will say that truly, I mean, I've loved being at ESPN.
It's been 13 years.
There's been all sorts of fun incidents here that we've documented.
Desk tape.
Desk tape.
You can blame Florio for that, by the way.
Because like when he's on a show, we just asked him about the desk.
Yeah.
What's that?
Is it news?
No.
Oh, yeah.
And so I'm waiting for Cliff Kingsbury to tweet out where.
We'll do it.
Our Jake Marsh will do it.
He's actually, he's been covering your impending free agency.
Yes, for sure.
We had him get on top of it.
Yeah, we want him to be covering every move that you make.
You know what's funny?
There are these things out there that never happened sometimes.
Like, you know, Adam Schefter met with this company.
Okay.
But and P.F.T. has got to want to bring up something about Jake Marsh real quick.
You, you, you are like, I'm going to give you a compliment.
You are an insanely hard worker.
You are at the top of your profession.
It has to feel a little bit good to maybe get close to free agency.
Wait, no, it's cool.
It'd be like, hey, people want me.
Well, I've covered free agency for 32 years.
And it's kind of fun to study it.
Watch it.
And then essentially do something like that your own.
And you, yeah.
So, so what lessons have you?
Are you like deleting ESPN from your Twitter bio?
You should do that.
Unfollowing people.
Follow everybody.
That's excellent.
That's a great idea.
Yeah, you should.
Oh, that's a good idea.
You should unfollow Jimmy Pitaro.
Well, you know, we, we, well, that would be great.
That would get everyone.
I love Jimmy Pitaro.
Yeah.
But why'd you unfollow him?
I don't think he has a social media account.
But there are other people I can unfollow.
And I like him too.
Yeah.
We like him a lot.
But why'd you unfollow him?
You got to play a power play.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, you know, the power play takes on different forms, right?
You got to plot it out.
You know, it's not just, well, you know, listen, we, we, we, we got.
Are you on Instagram?
You can scrub your Instagram.
Like any pictures that you've ever had with Booger McFarland.
I could have.
I could have my agent release a statement that ESPN better pay me.
Or I'm not going to cover or I'm not, I'm not going to cover a super.
You know what you could do?
You could also hold out.
Like what if on the eve of NFL free agency, you just said, you know what?
I'm not going to cover this.
I'm not going to give you anything until you give me my contract.
The double holdout has never been done before.
Wait, are you?
I love that.
Yeah.
The double holdouts.
Genius idea.
You don't understand your value.
You're like Aaron Rodgers.
You're like, and right now Aaron Rodgers, I believe per our best friend Diana Racini
said he wants to be the highest paid player in the history of the NFL.
So you should not, which he later denied.
Yeah.
Yo, no way.
He said he insinuated something.
I was like, why is the media misconstruing my words?
Like an honest guy.
You know what's amazing about that with the Aaron Rodgers situation?
We continue to divert and all these other areas, but there are people in that
Packers organization that have no idea what he's going to do.
No, duh.
He holds them hostage.
No idea.
He's got a mark second.
Players don't know.
Coaches don't know.
Like what's he doing?
So, I mean, the report was he wants like $50 million.
I could ask you the same.
Like what's your number?
Yeah, $50 million.
It is that's matter.
You could put it out.
So you said your agent could.
Adam Sheffield demands $50 million from ESPN per year.
Guaranteed.
Guaranteed.
And the and the use of Trin Tilford's private plane.
That too.
Or he's going to consider holding out on the Eva Free Agency and not show up.
Yep.
To do all the studio shows in time.
All released by your agent Don Yee.
No.
We're now his agent.
No.
This is who we get.
His agent is Don Yee.
No.
We get 10% of the dots.
We absolutely get 10%.
Who's that call?
Well, it's actually the person.
Big Cat and I had a funny thing today was texting me where the room was.
Where there was a team that wanted to do an interview for one of their websites.
So I said, hey, I'll talk to you this afternoon.
So I was texting Big Cat when I thought I was texting them.
And I told him, I told him, I said, please don't sue me.
You did the Big Cat on the Buffalo.
Yeah, you did the Bill Belichick.
Sorry, I really fucked this up.
Ash, A.S.
Congrats.
So I mean, what a great week.
You get the Buffalo job and you're on the podium with the Wisconsin team.
Rejecting the trophy apart.
Like what do you got to do to make that happen?
I it was crazy.
I don't really know.
He's basically part of the team.
Yeah, it was crazy.
It was nuts.
I'm still the only reason that I've come down a little bit off that high is we're now in the hotel that
I was in when Wisconsin lost to Duke in 2015.
So I'm having flashbacks.
And you're with me.
It's like, what, are you going to go to Madison?
Yeah.
Celebrity.
And then right back here, I walked into the lobby.
You're the highlight of our trip.
Hank was like, I was like, what's your memory from here?
And Hank's like, you dying right there.
And I was like, cool.
That's awesome.
I'm going to grab my phone real quick to read the Jake Marshall.
OK, all right.
So so no, seriously, though, I want to compliment you.
It's incredible, like free agency.
We give you we give you a lot of shit, but you are an insanely hardworking person.
You're at the top of your profession.
Is it like, are you going to do maybe a little wine and dine?
Like take me out to a steak dinner kind of thing.
Like let me go and, you know, let me go to, I don't know, DraftKings,
and they'll put you up on the Jumbotron or maybe like CBS Sports.
We'll we'll give you a jersey.
Maybe you do like Ray Allen.
He got game and you go and fuck two women at the same time.
I don't know.
What are you going to do?
Yeah, I don't know because I really haven't been through this before,
but I will say that I heard he I did have one.
You talk about wine and dine and women.
Well, the only thing I've had so far is I had one breakfast with ESPN in a diner.
And I said to them, I'm like, hey, the last time that I had
a meal with an ESPN executive, right, was when I signed my last contract
seven years ago, seven years ago.
We went to a really nice dinner.
It was me, John Skipper.
And now it's a diner.
Seth, right.
Seth Markman, Stephanie Drulian, Rob Savinelli at the time.
I'm trying to think of all the people that were at that dinner.
It was a great barstool employee, Rob Savinelli.
It was it was it was a memorable dinner.
And and this time we started out with a breakfast at a diner in Connecticut.
I'm just telling you, you tell me that tell that, you know,
you see teams like there are free agents to fly in
commercially, first class, some private.
I'm just telling you, wait, free agents flying commercially.
I'm talking about football for you.
They do.
Oh, there are some.
Yeah.
I guess there would be like lower price, but like big ones.
Well, different teams take different approaches with different guys.
Like bangers say that.
Yeah.
The bangers say just trying to put you on spirit.
There are coaches.
There are coaches that I know who have been on job interviews on connecting flights.
Like the way they they they're flying you to whatever they're flying on a connecting
flight.
That's great.
That's great.
Like what the heck.
Dawson prayers.
So anyway, so we started with the SPM at a diner.
But like I said, I have a lot of affection for a lot of people that are really dope.
If you go somewhere else, you should you should demand to like bring in talent like a like a
high price quarterback being like, I'm going to need a wide receiver.
Of course.
You got to hire my daughter too.
Of course.
Darlington's package deal.
Exactly.
If Darlington's going to take bullets for me, yeah, I'm going to absolutely do that again.
All right.
So I wanted to read this to you because Jake Marsh, he's one of our most trusted loyal employees
here.
He's at PMT SportsBiz.
He's the one that's been reporting a little bit on your free agency gassing you up a little
bit actually.
Okay, good.
Thank you, Jake.
He wrote to you.
Yeah, it's very cool.
He wrote to you back in 2015 when he was a student at Syracuse University because I guess
he had read a Q&A that you did with the Michigan Daily back in 2013.
And Jake was rushing for fraternity and he got rejected a second time from rushing.
Do you remember this email?
No, I know somebody else who got rejected twice for fraternity.
Yeah.
So I'm going to I'm going to go ahead.
So he's like a big fan of journalism in general.
That's what he wants to do and he's going to do it eventually.
But he wrote you an email just kind of explaining where he's coming from.
He's like, I saw how you talked about dealing with rejection.
And I got chills when he read it is what he said.
And then you replied to his email actually, you said, Jake, please to hear the encouragement you
got from my interview in the daily.
If you get a moment, please look at the speech I gave at Northwestern a few years ago.
I think there's a link to it on my Wikipedia page.
That speech will sum up my thoughts on the college experience and advancing your career.
But you're doing the right things, getting involved, reaching out to other organizations.
There's always a place for everyone.
It's up for you.
It's up to you to find it.
It sounds like you're well on your way to doing that, which I congratulate you for.
Make sure to use your college experience to gain as much experience as you can.
Do as many summer internships as you can and work as hard as you can and screw the fraternity.
One day they'll regret not inviting you.
One day you'll be better off for it.
Have a great time in college.
Keep chasing your dreams.
Sincerely, Adam Schafter.
That was a very nice email that you sent back.
Very nice.
And it encouraged him a lot and put him in a better space.
So as much as we give you, I think you're a good guy.
And I would say with that email, I would say with all the people that you listen,
yeah, I don't know if you think I'm a good guy.
But anyway.
Yeah, I think I know.
It's just a very funny, like, listen.
You're an asshole.
For everything you do that is terrible, you're a good guy.
Despite your boots, I don't think you're a good guy.
But grudgingly.
Yeah.
I don't care what everyone says about you.
You're an okay guy.
But listen, you had all those Wisconsin fans swarming big cat last night, right?
There's a lot of people.
You guys have a huge audience in that age range.
There's a lot of people across college campuses that hang on every word that you guys say.
So I'm asked for advice that that's advice that I would give to almost anybody.
So his situation was that he was rejected from a fraternity.
But there's somebody else that didn't get into a club or didn't make a team or
didn't get a job or whatever it is.
We're all going through the same things in college, right?
It's the same stuff.
So it's up to everybody else.
I don't go in my soapbox here to just go make the most of your opportunity.
But I got rejected from a fraternity, my freshman here.
And that was when, at that point in time, I went down to the football office to see
if they needed somebody to pick up jockstraps and hand out water bottles.
And they didn't.
Basketball office, they didn't need anybody.
I'm like, I got to do something.
What am I going to do?
God, the fraternity doesn't want me.
Football, basketball don't want me.
I'm going to go to student newspaper.
And if the fraternity had let me in, I'm telling you right now,
I never would have went to the student newspaper.
And then the fraternity, the second semester, a different fraternity didn't let me in.
And my college buddies to this day left about it because they finally let me in.
First term sophomore year.
So all my friends got in freshman year.
I was enough of a loser that I couldn't get in until my sophomore year.
But at that point, I had started to work for the student newspaper and
just tried to make something happen when nothing else was happening.
I think it's a good message, though, that like some people can take rejection
and then that turns into anger and resentment.
And it becomes a negative thing.
Or you could try to turn it into something positive.
But what did you do in between your freshmen?
How'd you get so much cooler?
I didn't get that.
You limited some.
The frack got worse.
No, no, you know what?
I had some friends there.
I don't think I got they had a fight to get me in.
Like there was a real chance I wasn't going to get in.
You know what?
If I didn't get in, I would have lost out on some of those great experiences
and some of those friends.
But it probably would have worked out elsewhere.
Like it just it would have been a different experience.
That's all.
That's the point, right?
Whether you're applying to fraternity, an internship, a job.
But they're always going to be able to tell us no.
Like I have hundreds, hundreds of rejection letters, right?
Like I wanted to go cover the Colorado Rockies baseball team
for the Rocky Mountain News.
And they wouldn't let me go cover the new baseball team,
the expansion franchise.
No, you're going to stick on the NFL and you're going to like it.
OK?
Like you got no choice.
And so I was forced to stay on the Broncos beat back in the day.
But it's also, I think, a great lesson of a lot of people are successful.
Like a lot of lucky things have to happen.
And you know, things go your way in different ways where it's like,
oh, that happened and now I'm here.
Like I think a lot of people get to a point of their career
where they kind of forget about the luck or the little breaks
that happen in the way.
Oh, it takes all that.
Like I never would have imagined being in this position today.
With us?
You mean?
You know, holding out a free agency,
contemplating a holdout, scrubbing my Instagram page.
There's always been a team first guy.
Yeah, absolutely.
At some point in time, that's got to stop.
Yeah, yeah.
Listen, they're trying to make you play with the Tormeniscus.
Exactly.
Rip off your shirt.
Get out of here.
I need to be able to afford the next pair of furry boots.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Listen, yeah, absolutely.
Your business.
You have to start thinking about yourself as a business.
It would be so awesome if you actually did this,
if you leaned into it.
By the way, how come I don't have a furry boots endorsement deal yet?
That's a good question.
That's probably because you tore your knee off using them.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's probably true.
Come to Barstool Sports.
We'll get you all the furry boots you need.
Oh, is that an offer?
Are we in the...
Is that an offer?
Can we at least get a hat on the table?
Absolutely.
When you do the announcement?
Hats on the table.
Like, can we please at least get a Barstool hat?
Yeah.
Like, who's considering it?
We'll have an offer.
We'll absolutely have an offer.
$49 million.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
Let's do it.
You can't use the app.
You just negotiated against us.
You said $50 million and I'm out.
We just talked you down.
Got you.
Well, I mean, like, let's get the conversations going.
You want to start at $49 million.
We get the hat on the table.
We go from there.
You're using us as leverage,
because now you're going to take the $49 million
and you're going to be like,
I'll take this in less $50 million.
Let me see what Donye has to say about that.
Okay.
Okay.
Let's do a quick,
let's do quick, like, stories that are coming up.
Obviously, you don't have a definitive answer,
but, like, which way the wind is blowing.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Those always result in headlines.
No, listen, we're not.
Like, last week, I said,
likely Jimmy Garoppolo is moving on
and that turns into a headline of
not a lock that the $49ers are going to trade him.
We'll do percentages.
Percentages.
No, no, no, no.
We'll never do percentages.
No, say it as always.
I'm not doing percentages.
How about this one?
We'll just call it,
gun to your head.
Yeah, gun to your head.
Gun to your head.
Russell Wilson is the starting quarterback
for the Seahawks to start the season.
I would think that that would be the case.
Okay.
Okay.
Gun to your head.
Carson Wentz is the cult starting quarterback
to start the season.
Carson Wentz, I think we should put him in Washington
just to see PSP.
Shut the fuck up.
No, that's not even me.
Like, that's not even.
That's not even.
You put a gun to my head.
I'm coming back at you.
That's not even a mean thing to do.
That seriously, my soul, when I think about Carson Wentz
playing for the commanders, my soul just kind of like,
my body just goes, it just goes limp.
Oh, it'd be so bad.
Do you think about that, by the way,
and when you tweet out the graphic,
that's like Sean McVeigh, Kyle Shanahan,
Matt LaFleur, all on the 2013 Washington Redskins team.
Do you think about how pissed off I'm going to be
when you do that?
If the thoughts got, you got to be like,
I'm so glad that PFT's mad at me right now.
Yeah, that was an incredible staff.
I'm not trying to rub it in.
Yeah, I know.
Also, Mike McDaniel, you want to talk about that?
Yeah, Mike McDaniel was there, too.
Yeah, thanks.
It's gotten so bad for PFT.
He's like inventing new guys.
He's like, I think that guy was there.
Tom Landry was there.
Yeah.
Chris Lombardi was on that.
You were like, I think that guy was there.
I was like, no, if you put it in.
Zach Taylor.
Yeah, I thought Zach Taylor must have been there.
And it's like, that's how bad he's been wounded by this.
And rightfully so.
I mean, as a commander's fan, it's been a tough go for it.
Well, let me ask you this.
What do you think happened first?
So it's going to really bother you.
Yes.
It's going to really bother you that all those guys are not there,
but Carson Wentz is.
Yes.
God damn it.
That's it.
It really is not bad.
It takes my soul away.
And there were the worst interceptions ever.
What happens first?
Dan Snyder sells the commanders or I die.
I can't see Dan Snyder ever voluntarily selling.
I didn't ask that.
No, like, don't those suck.
Add like 13.
I've had I've had 13 kidney stones.
Yeah, not 13.
Hold on.
13 incidents, 13.
13 stones.
And how many times like how many times are in the hospital that they passed?
Went to the hospital one time, passed two of them on my own.
And then the others were really small.
So I'm pretty sure I just pissed those right out.
Have you revised your diet and?
Absolutely not.
No, no, because I passed the kidney stone and my doctor is like,
he can't drink beer.
Like I'm like, I can't drink beer.
That's their answer for everything.
Well, OK.
But again, since he took like that was so painful.
Well, you could never drink beer.
That's why you didn't get in the frat.
That's exactly right.
And then you see my chugging contest with Dan Orozky.
Yeah, I can't drink beer.
That's your damn right about that.
Oh, wait, so it's the question.
It is bad.
It is bad.
Who's going to die first?
And I know you said voluntarily sell.
But the question is, will he sell the team?
I don't think so.
I think he's got zero, zero intent to sell.
But what about this new investigation?
I can't predict what's going to come out.
I don't know.
Count your head.
Does he sell or no?
No.
God damn it.
OK.
I don't like the news that you break.
That's my problem.
Change the news.
Change the news.
You got bad news.
Welcome to the crowd.
I know.
It must sometimes when you tweet something and it's like,
I'm reporting the news and then everyone just gets mad at you.
It's become more and more like that.
Yeah.
It's unbelievable if you think back.
Yeah.
No, it's true.
Everybody's offended.
Like change the news.
When it involves their team.
Right.
Right.
I'm not trying to offend anybody.
Which team do you hate the most?
Like which fan base?
When they're like, this is classic shifty.
He hates the Seahawks.
Like are you like the other right there?
I don't know that I hear any that stuff.
It's probably just a, honestly, a cyclical thing.
Like when you say that, you know,
Tom Brady's leaving New England after the year.
The fans in New England don't like that.
You know, fans in Green Bay don't like the Anna Rogers.
They think it's contrived.
They're made up or whatever it is.
And he was pretty open about his feelings
when he reported to camp.
So, honestly, it's whatever team, whatever fan base
is involved in that particular story,
a lot of times they're not happy about it.
I think you hate the commanders
based on the news that you've been giving me.
I can't say I'm a big fan of that name.
It doesn't roll off the tongue.
It's just an average name.
It's not good.
Nothing harder than saying the commanders
is the commander's quarterback Carson Wentz.
Yeah, that was definitely a mouthful of news.
Here's another one I'm curious about.
Your college coach, Jim Harbaugh, how close was that?
What happened there?
Because I was worried.
I mean, I think Harbaugh was an unbelievable coach.
I thought he would have been like home run hire for the Vikings.
I think he was definitely interested in hearing
what they had to say.
He spent about nine hours.
He and I spoke that night, and he was very complimentary
of the Vikings organization, the ownership.
I think that they just had different ideas
about the way that it was going to work and flow.
And so he said, back to Michigan, not going anywhere else.
I actually think, I believe him.
I think he's very honest about that stuff.
He's not someone who's playing some kind of weird mind game
when it comes to news.
I don't think so.
I think he tells you the truth.
He's an honest guy.
And so when he says he's going back to Michigan,
he's not doing that again.
I believe that.
Yeah.
And it's probably true.
That's where he is right now.
He's done a great job.
We hope and can expect that he's going to continue
to do a great job.
Hopefully he's not pushing any Wisconsin coaches
or do anything like that to Greg Guard.
Right?
We can't have that.
But also the NFL, a lot of it,
they're looking to hire these young guys right now.
Jim and I are very similar in age.
They're looking for the next Sean McVeigh.
They're looking for the next Zach Taylor.
They're looking for somebody like that.
Yeah.
And so I don't think they're looking for as much so
for middle-aged guys.
Do you think it also kind of came down to the fact that
I'm just guessing that Harbaugh probably didn't want Kirk Cousins.
He was probably going to come in and be like,
this is not my kind of guy.
And they want somebody that has worked with him.
That's another Washington coach.
God damn it.
Well, he wasn't on that stuff.
He came in after that, Kevin O'Connell did.
But he was on the football team, Washington.
If you got in the full directory for him,
everybody, like that team photo from that year,
like, yeah, you need to do that.
Like, it would be fun.
Deuce Gruden probably.
What's Deuce up to these days?
You haven't reported on Deuce.
No, I haven't reported on Deuce.
With the whole Gruden thing to happen.
You caught a stray in the whole John Gruden thing.
That was going to come up, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, maybe we should just call you.
Yeah, there are 650,000 emails.
That one comes up, yeah.
Do you think that was because you're in a contract here?
You know.
Huh?
Huh?
Ooh.
Interesting.
Ooh.
Ooh.
ESPN planted.
ESPN leaked it.
I'm not saying anyone.
I'm just saying that might have dinged you a little bit.
Do you regret using the phrase Mr. Editor?
I've had so many editors over the years
that I'm conditioned to just say that.
Like news editors, managing editors, senior editors.
That's the way it goes.
Editors.
You know, 10 years ago also.
And we move on.
You proud of everything you did 10 years ago?
Probably not.
Do you, I actually think you have a resiliency
where you do seem to move on.
Do you try?
Do those things linger a little bit though?
Do they like affect you?
Oh, I think they, I think a little bit, you do your best.
You do your best to develop thick skin and tune everything out.
I think I do a pretty good job of it.
But in the world we live in, it's so around you,
like that Brady stuff that day when my daughter gets in the car,
she brings it into the car.
Like I'm not looking for that at that moment.
I've done a great job of not picking up the phone
like that's Sunday morning.
I pick up the phone and there were a couple of, whoof.
I mean, strong.
Strong worded.
Woo.
I'm not at, no, I don't think I said anything.
But people in your company did.
I just was rooting for you to be wrong.
I was rooting for you to be wrong.
That's fine.
Because I thought it would be funny.
Like the Odell Beckham one, there was another one.
Which was that?
When I said he's signing and all these people said he hasn't made a decision.
He's saying he hasn't made a decision.
And you guys are doing a play-by-play of it on your podcast.
Yeah, that's true.
Right?
And what happened?
Okay, yeah, that's true.
What happened?
I think that's because, yeah.
He only tore his ACL.
That's the last I remember.
You probably shouldn't break any news in between the hours of like five and nine at night
because there's always a chance we're recording.
We're just going to start talking about it.
And I'm just like Ross Schaffer says this.
That was like throwing up a live.
And we don't fact check.
No.
Just so you know, we do not fact check.
You make the facts work for you.
Yeah, we have the best news.
We have way better news than you.
Which is all, it feeds into our delusions.
Yes, exactly.
We make it.
It's an alternate.
It's a fact or what you determine them to be.
It's an alternate universe.
Yes.
But yeah, going back to that Grunen thing, because it seemed odd,
the selection of emails that were released.
And at the time it was like, yeah, you can look at John Grunen's emails and say,
these are bad things objectively.
Like he should not have said all these things offensive to so many people,
including NFL commissioners.
It was a clean sweep, I believe is the phrase that you use.
But you also have to ask like, why were those the emails that were released?
And I don't think that we've gotten any closure on that yet.
You'd have to ask the reporters of the story.
I mean, that didn't come from me.
I don't know.
It's kind of weird.
Yeah.
650.
A lot of offensive things.
I'm sure.
A lot of terrible things.
And so a couple of others came out.
Yeah.
I just have to wonder like, who benefited from all that?
And it seemed like the target was obviously John Grunen on it and they got him out.
But there's still some like remaining dots to be connected on that.
That's the fasting part of the NFL sometimes for me is like,
there's so many really wealthy, powerful people that are trying to pull strings.
You never know who's going to come after you, right?
You never know.
And it's like everyone's trying to be the head puppet master at all times.
So who is the head puppet master?
You guys on the fact checking?
I mean, if you're making the facts up as you go.
Yeah, exactly.
We might be.
We might be.
Shadow commissioner.
Arch Manning.
Just say Ernie Adams any time.
Yeah.
Ernie Adams.
He does it all.
He does it all.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
All right.
I got one last question.
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All right.
So you're at a point in your life.
You're about to hit free agency.
You've done everything.
Have you serious question here?
Have you been able to balance a little bit with the work and life
and not being so I need every scoop?
Or is it still there?
Is it still maniacal?
You can't do your job unless you're doing it 100.
Well, I think that when you devote yourself to your job,
you can't kind of do this job.
You're in it or you're not.
Right.
It's not that kind of thing.
But last summer, someone called me in the NFL media world
and they were talking, hey, when your contract's up,
you know, we'd like to do some things with you.
Just kind of talking, generally speaking.
And they said, what do you want to do?
I want you to think about what you want to do.
And I said, okay, I called that person back the next day
after thinking.
I said, I want to be happier.
Yeah.
That's it.
I want my life to be a little simpler.
Yeah.
Because it's not, it doesn't feel that way.
It feels like it's just, listen, I love what I do.
I've been doing this for 32 years since 1990.
It's a privilege.
It's an honor.
And it's not a complaint because it is,
I can't imagine what else I do.
I can't imagine loving a job.
But any job done the right way.
It just, it takes it out of you.
You get, you guys, I mean, I know you guys are up to way more
than $50,000 per episode right now.
That's a long time ago, dude.
I think that was like our first year.
102 gross 83 net.
See that?
Yeah.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Not a big deal.
Do you still feel the same passion for it now
than when you first, it's different, right?
It's different, right?
I think so, yes.
I think I feel the same passion for it.
There's never going to be the same level of holy shit
that there was at the start when it kind of like took off.
Right?
The rise is like a different feeling.
But as our friend Tom Kreen taught us, get ahead, stay ahead.
Get ahead, stay ahead.
And so there is a rush in staying ahead too.
Yeah.
So I think that we have something similar at times
to your profession where it's not that you don't love your job
because I think we all sitting here love our jobs.
It's that when you get a scoop, you get what, like 10 minutes
and then it's the next scoop.
Like we were in Madison last night, had a great night.
We drove here like after four hours of sleep to do interviews.
Like so it's the constant, like you do one thing, it's awesome.
Next thing's up right away.
When I covered the Denver Broncos,
which is a different animal for a newspaper for 16 years,
I can remember getting news stories and following them
and thinking like, wow, that's a great story.
And then it doesn't mean anything the next day.
And I said it's kind of like just watching waves at the ocean.
Yeah.
Wave rolls in, boom, rolls back in.
Another one rolls in.
Do a podcast, next one's on.
Exactly, it just keeps coming.
And I guess that's being a pro.
Just doing it time and time again.
But I do go back to that happier answer.
Like what is it that would make you happier?
Like I've never had an assistant at all.
Really?
Ever.
That's crazy to me.
Are you looking for one?
And my life becomes, yeah, I'm going to, yeah, I am.
Yeah.
We could do that.
Yeah, we could, we could set you up with one.
You know what?
I got your email address here from Jake.
I could just read it out loud and you would get a ton of,
a ton of resumes.
How would you have an assistant?
That's nice.
Well, but, but I, I think I'm at the point now where like,
you know where I need it?
I need it with help at home too.
Correct.
My wife, a few times this year, type one died.
Like I said, a couple of issues.
I'm in Seattle one time.
Right.
I can't, I'm not even there.
My daughter's too young.
My son's in college.
What are we doing here?
Right.
No, I, I agree.
It gets, it gets, so I, I need somebody just to help out.
Just to kind of be there.
All right, so we got to get you down here.
Do you know Billy Football?
What's that?
Do you know a guy named Billy Football?
Who's Billy Football?
I think you'd be perfect for this assignment.
We, I'll tell you what,
Barcel Sports will get you an assistant.
I probably never should have said that.
Well, I've spoken to a FBI and you know what?
There was a woman that I worked with at the Denver Post
back in the day, a woman who was unbelievable.
Love this woman, gracious, kind, generous,
thoughtful, professional, like everything.
And I always said, one day, one day,
I'm going to see if you can come work with me and be my assistant.
And I'm going to call her soon
and see if she would be interested in doing that.
But this is like, this is real talk because I,
I do think that there's a watching you from afar
and knowing you a little bit, you know,
we, we, we catch up every couple of years,
which we'll have to do again next year.
We're going to be nicer to you now.
This has been a very good therapeutic airing of grievances.
For all of us.
I do sometimes see you and I'm like,
like chef, he's just fucking, he's just, he never stops.
And it's gotta, it's gotta, it's gotta like,
wear you down a little bit because we have something similar.
We're a little younger and, you know,
maybe not in worse shape than you,
but there's times where you're younger.
I saw the basketball on your boobs.
There's times though where we're, we're like, man,
we're just tired.
Like we just took a vacation.
It was very nice.
You took a vacation, right?
Guess what?
I haven't taken a vacation in 10, 15 years.
Okay.
As guys who just took a vacation take a vacation.
Here's the issue.
Touch grass, Adam.
Touch grass, bro.
Hold on.
Touch grass, smoke grass, right?
Nope.
Oh, all right.
Okay, all right.
I didn't know you got down like that.
I'm surprised they didn't let you in the frat.
Here's the deal.
Here's the deal.
I would go.
My wife, again, has some health concerns.
We've got five dogs at home.
She would never, she would never leave the dogs.
So why don't you just go to the Hamptons or something?
Well, you know what?
Bring the dogs.
Now you're getting an assistant.
Take care of the dogs or take care of your wife.
Yeah, exactly.
That's a good idea, though.
I like that.
You take a vacation, yeah.
Billy loves dogs.
And your wife.
I hope that the woman I work with in Denver is a dog lover
because if she is, then she is going to be
qualified for the job.
But somebody that could literally stay at the house
for a weekend to try to mentally disconnect, which I haven't done.
Like, dude, you got to take a vacation.
You're crazy.
Wait, let me see this.
You're crazy.
This morning, I'm flying to Indianapolis.
This, to me, is my closest form of a vacation.
But it's not.
Well, I know that.
But in my mind, I've reconciled this is what I'm doing.
So I was in the airport this morning, right?
I went into the Delta Lounge.
They had this excellent breakfast.
I'm like, oh, I'm sitting here by myself.
I'm like, well, hold on.
I get to the gate and there's this guy, Adam.
They announced they had to move my seat
because the seat was disabled.
And so the woman in the airport, now, could Adam Schefterer
please come to the podium?
I'm like, so all of a sudden, I got two guys.
I go, what do we got here?
Well, one of the guys I went to sleepaway camp with back
in the day.
No way.
And he wanted to talk to me.
And it was like, oh, it was nice to reconnect with Peter
Rosegard.
No, I haven't seen in 40 years.
Right.
Right.
And so this, to me, was like, then I
got to go talk to the Indianapolis Chamber of Commerce.
Now I get to talk to you.
Like, I haven't been on the phone much.
No, dude.
I haven't had to walk the dogs.
I haven't had to pick up dog poop.
It's not a vacation, Adam.
It's kind of safe that your vacation is going to an airport.
Yes.
People put, when they go on vacation,
they put like they tweet out the airport they're leaving from
and then the plane emoji and then where they're going.
Your vacation is just like New York City
and then just the airplane.
You got to go on vacation.
Just like, I'm going on an airplane.
You got to go on a vacation.
Talk to my wife.
OK.
All right.
We will.
Honestly, I would love that.
Let's chat.
Maybe one of these decades.
But you know what you should do?
You should just schedule some tweets in advance.
Yeah.
Just like what you think is going to happen.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just like Carson Wentz has signed a four-year contract
to Washington Command.
OK.
Well, if you're going to bring it up again,
I wasn't going to do this.
But my last, last question was, did you kill my dog?
Ooh.
What?
How is that?
What happened with Lee right here?
I miss him.
He passed away.
I know.
Because he was so good at breaking news.
I know.
I know.
He's a legend.
That you got mad at him and came over and slid his throat.
Dog lover.
Exactly.
No, no.
Do not, no, no.
I get enough crap for a lot of other things that are on market.
I'm just falling the money.
That you killed his dog.
Yeah, OK.
Come on, man.
I would never kill a dog.
Never kill a dog.
I have great love for all dogs.
All dogs.
Even the ones that beat you to scoops.
Even I admire Leroy all the more for,
he would have been coming with me.
He would have been your assistant.
Your agency.
Yeah.
Were you a little bit jealous when he broke the Grog news?
Yeah, I was.
Like I never thought I'd get to a point in my career
where I got beat by a dog.
I know.
Those are the dog days.
Yeah, truly.
All right.
Well, Adam, thank you.
It's always great to have you on.
This was therapeutic.
We needed it.
We lit.
No joke.
A week ago, we were like,
are we going to kind of mean to Chef Deez
because we haven't seen him in a while?
Yeah, you know, I had heard, you know,
Cliff King's very old deal back in Tambra,
on and on and on.
We're good.
Like I feel like, you know,
Big Hat gets to go on the podium
and I get to go on vacation in the embassy suites
with you guys.
Yes, exactly.
It's a beautiful hotel.
What a, I mean, it's a suite.
Let's go in the pool.
Come on, three of us.
Two cannonballs.
Yeah, let's wait around in the pool.
And I'll change to my furry boots afterwards.
Thank you, Adam.
Thanks, guys.
Oh, man, that was great.
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All right.
Airport review number two time.
We are in Madison, Wisconsin.
Our first airport review was what,
three years ago in Indianapolis?
Yeah.
The only thing I remember from there was there was a Chick-fil-A
and then there were lights that would turn on as you walk past them.
Yes.
Overall a great airport review.
Airport reviews are like whenever they're going to release a new Batman,
you're like, oh man, I hope it's this year.
Nope, not this year.
Next year.
Okay.
I hope it's next year.
Nope.
It's actually going to be 2022 and it's Madison, Wisconsin.
Yeah.
It's the Avatar trilogy.
We'll make our way out to Seattle in 2029.
I do like, you know what I really enjoy about this airport so far?
Brain dump for me because I've obviously been in this airport a few times.
I like the size of it.
You can see from end to end.
And that's, in general, I like state capitals.
They have efficient airports usually.
You know what it is?
It's this, oh, whole place shakes when a plane goes off.
Military, fuck Russia.
Oh, that is actually, that is a fighter jet.
Yeah.
No offense, Russia.
The nice thing about, no offense, Russia.
No offense, Putin.
We fucking hate you, dude.
Fuck to Putin.
This airport is very like, if you could close your eyes and imagine what
airports look like in like 1940.
Do you know what I mean?
Like this is what the initial terminal at JFK look like.
What I like is there's no digital signs anywhere.
Everything, I feel like somebody comes by and like flips a number.
Or they put it up like it's a movie theater marquee sign.
We're literally walking by the way.
So for people who are listening, not watching, which will be on YouTube,
pardon my take YouTube, we're walking the entire airport.
We're halfway through now.
Now from the start, we're now halfway through the airport.
Ooh, they got spotted cow here.
Yep.
Should I get a spotted cow?
You can buy it pretty much anywhere now.
So you probably don't have to buy it in the airport?
But it's like the first time that I see it.
It's like, it's like, whatever you just say, get off in an airport.
You're like, oh, I got to get this.
Like, yeah, they have that everywhere.
Yeah, it's like Cinnabon.
When you smell Cinnabon on the way out.
Got some good Badger gear.
They call this place Madtown?
I mean, you could, yeah.
I just saw a thing that said Madtown.
You definitely could.
You can call it whatever you want.
Maddog.
Sure.
Mad to the bone.
Yeah.
Keep going.
That's all I got.
OK.
I really need a coffee.
Yeah, well, I'll get it while we're taping.
We'll talk to the person if we can find.
Dude, nothing's open right now.
The brewery.
Look at this.
This is cute.
The book nook.
It's got a little fake.
There are no books.
Fake library.
It's just books painted on a wall.
That's my type of library.
It's wallpaper made to look like a book.
That's actually a genius idea.
If you're like building a new home,
if you're an interior designer,
shout out to Karissa Thompson and Erin Andrews.
You can just put up wallpaper.
Just Karissa, right?
I don't know.
I think Erin doesn't do it.
She doesn't?
No.
Shout out to Karissa.
She just.
I don't think she does.
I don't want.
No, I think Karissa's doing it all on her own.
She's fucking crushing it.
I thought Erin told me that wallpaper was back.
Yeah, that's.
Erin Andrews has something we call opinions.
Karissa's an expert.
Got it.
OK.
Well, regardless, I think that there's a good future
for that in homes to have wallpaper resemble other things.
So you don't actually have to buy the books.
How much do you think this Rolex ad is?
Like, we can probably get some Rolexes sold.
Madison and Rockford, power cities right there.
Yeah, I feel like that's.
Shell, Frick, Van Vliet.
Madison seems like an upscale Casio town.
Like the top of the line, Casio.
Yes.
Yes.
A little bit.
There's a lot of.
Oh, Peter's got a bunch of stuff, too.
I'm exhausted right now.
Got a lot of bags for carrying.
I don't think anything's open.
I think that that bar was the only place
Let's go in the bathroom.
The bathroom is exceptional.
It's very clean.
This is women only.
All right.
So we almost went in the women's bathroom.
I thought Big Guy was doing a bit right there.
No, I thought it was the divider was the divider was one side.
90% sure we're in Bittown.
All right.
So this is the men's bathroom.
I don't know why there's probably can't bring the camera in here,
Liam.
Look at this lighting.
It's like the ring lighting when you, you know, when you're doing it.
When you're doing an Instagram.
Yeah.
Look at that.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
Your eyes look great behind those.
Wow.
Yeah, that's a good.
That's a good sexy.
Yeah.
It's a great man.
This is a.
I would say this is a 10 out of 10 bathroom.
I'm going to take it for a spin real quick.
Okay.
A 10.
I'll narrate while he does this.
It's a 10 out of 10 bathroom in my mind.
One thing I love about this bathroom here
is it's got a shelf above the urinal.
Yeah.
See that you can put anything you want up there.
What is this?
Oh, look at this.
You, you walk, you soap, you wash, you wash.
Oh, got a fart there.
And then you dry all in one place.
Unbelievable.
It's its own station.
That's great.
That's great.
This is a incredible bathroom.
Oh, sorry.
Someone just walked in.
That's a substantial stall right there too.
Does that door go all the way to the ground?
I just walked in.
It was like, are these fucking guys doing a podcast in here?
That urinal was, it was rock solid, no splash back.
These are some very, you get a lot of privacy.
No, I know this.
You could.
This airport was built for, for a people that like to use the bathroom.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, those, those toilet bowls have seen some shit.
Um.
Get it.
I just rinsed my hand on it.
Don't need to introduce soap to this equation.
Well, they have the all in one.
Did you see it?
I've already, I've already shown it for the people.
So we're good, but it's, it's quite something.
You good?
You want me to carry this?
If you can just hand it to me, I can grab it.
Not great at bending over right now.
I got the best back right now.
It's incredible.
All right.
All right.
Bathroom.
I'd say the bathroom's a solid eight out of 10.
I gave it a 10 out of 10 just because of,
listen, the airport doesn't have to have a lot of people in it.
So like that's a really nice bathroom in there.
I would give it, I would give it a 10 out of 10 if the,
if the doors went all the way to the ground on the stall.
Oh, so you could do cocaine?
Yeah.
Also, I didn't get to take the, the main bathroom area for a spin.
You know?
Yeah.
So it can't give it a 10 for that yet.
Oh, look at this little spot where you can maybe do a little studying.
It's a nice plant they have in here too.
Is that palm tree?
It's beautiful.
I got a palm tree.
We're going to loop around here.
Guys, I got a palm tree in the airport.
We're going to loop around here.
Gates one, two, and three.
Oh, that guy's coat was a dog.
The bis, oh, it's the business center, guys.
That's the, here, want me to hear it?
I'm making deals.
So, I'm, I'm fine.
You're literally grimacing.
I'm fine.
I'm great.
I'm great, I'm great.
I got this.
I'm basically sure.
It's totally fine.
It's the business center.
This is where deals go down.
How, how big of a deal these things have been made here?
Specifically, it's got, so, just so people understand in the podcast,
it's got like seven cubby holes where you can just sit there.
You know what it kind of looks like?
It looks like somebody could actually set up a full-time boiler room there,
just like put an ad on the Craigslist,
hire five telemarketers for a day,
do work here until you get kicked out.
I want to ask that woman what she's working on.
Business.
It looks like a, actually, it actually looked like
she was working on a cheese platter.
It's business, baby.
Business.
That could be business, too.
Business is booming.
Shout out to Antonio Brown not for anything that he does in his life,
but for the fact that business is booming.
By nature, when you say it, you're just like, wow,
business really is doing well.
Antonio Brown is like sneaky, low-key genius,
because Pitt to the palace is a banger.
Yep.
But business, but just saying business is booming.
Like, hey, what's up, man?
How's business?
Oh, it's booming.
Damn, dude.
I don't know.
You were crushing it that well.
Also just saying, like, Pitt not the palace.
It's just a cool thing to say.
Look at that.
Nice chair.
Massage chairs.
Thumbs up.
Love it.
All right, so we just did the entire.
We just walked the entire.
We got to double it back.
Yeah, no, we walked the entire airport.
Now we're going to try to find our bags.
I kind of want that spotted cow now.
You can only get in the airports here.
Get in the airports.
You're like, I don't think there's someone who does that
where they, like, eat a full meal when they land.
Yes.
Before they leave.
Before they even get to the.
Let me sit at this.
Let me sit at this.
This chilies real quick.
I guess chilies would be the exception.
I would do that.
I bet you Billy would do it.
Yeah.
If it was being expensed.
It's like, whenever I get landed at the airport,
the one thing you want to do is get away from the airport
as fast as possible.
Oh, the Vegas airport.
Sometimes I got hung up in there at the slot machine.
Yeah.
All right.
Okay, so now we are walking out.
Okay.
Exiting.
Let's go this way to the lobby.
All right, guys.
How are you guys doing?
Good.
Awesome.
Thank you for your service.
Thank you.
I think it's a PFT back.
All right, watch out.
What was that?
They thanked you back.
Oh, you're welcome.
They said thank you.
Okay, look at this.
Beautiful, airy, light.
Again, I think this actually teaches us that airports
were meant to just serve like the fewest amount of planes
because it's actually a nice look.
There's a fireplace right there.
This is great.
You know what I've noticed about the airport is I think
that there are more actual customer lounges
than there are gates, which is awesome.
Right, because this doesn't serve enough people
that you have to have chaos and all these things.
It's like 12 gates.
Small regional airports are the best.
You don't need all the bells and whistles.
I don't need a Buffalo Wild Wings in every wing.
Look at this fireplace, boys.
Look at these chairs.
It's incredible.
We've got Marty Mushier, Jake.
Marty, what's your general impression of this airport?
One of my favorites.
I love a small airport in a quaint.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
It is very quaint.
Jake, give us a score.
Very nice until I saw that sign.
No pre-check.
No pre-check.
No pre-check.
Oh, my God.
What about clear?
It's a pre-check on steroids.
You realize at first why I have no pre-check is
yeah, there's like two people in line at any time.
I'm going to take my shoes off tomorrow.
Oh, he's going to take his shoes off.
All right, you know what?
I actually want to agree with Jake.
That does ding you a little bit.
Having to take your shoes off?
Jake on the flight.
Oh, yeah.
So when we got on the plane, I guess the hand sanitizer
or like little wipes, I thought those were just
so that you could wipe your hands.
Jake, it was like he had like a 67 Ferrari or something.
I don't know if that was a good year for Ferrari.
My apologies to car people.
But he was wiping down his seat.
Like he was waxing the car.
He was doing it for like five minutes
until he was having a conversation with me
because I was sitting behind him.
I was like, dude, are you wiping your seat?
He's like, yeah, I've been doing it for two years now.
To me, it looked like he was just bathing a dog.
Yeah.
Just like really scrubbing it down, getting every single inch of it.
It was so weird.
And then we kind of busted his balls
for wiping down the seat so hard.
And he's like, I'm sorry, I've been doing this for two years.
And then the guy two seats behind us goes, hey,
you know, my name's also Jake and I wiped down my seat.
So it's a Jake thing.
It's a Jake thing, clearly.
It was just a very, I honestly had,
every single time I got on a plane in the last two years,
they handed me that.
And I would just either not do anything
or sometimes wipe my hands.
That was it.
One time,
Did I ever think like, oh, let me wipe down the entire seat?
One time I took it and I wiped my face down with it.
The person next to me was like, I think that's for your hands.
Yeah.
See, they didn't even think it was for your seat.
They corrected you and they corrected you incorrectly.
I just assume if you hand me anything on a plane,
I'm going to bury my face in it.
Let's do last thing real quick.
Let's just check out the baggage claim and then we'll end this.
This is a nice little coffee shop down here.
Yeah, I know.
I wish one of them was open.
No, it's even better to just imagine.
Like I could see somebody in there sitting next to some fake books.
I'd like to see this speed real quick of this thing.
Let's put on, I'm going to put my bag on it just to test.
Marty, can you grab, can you go make sure that this doesn't go through?
I like that poster.
I just, my bag just went back through.
If you look back there, there's a poster in an airport
advertising for flying on airplanes.
Oh.
Just in general.
I mean, best time to do it, right?
Just flight.
It's on everyone's mind.
That's pretty good.
Although there's no like guardrails, right?
Things could easily fall off.
You could just get on there.
You could in theory just hop on there.
You're going to test out your, your bag in theory?
No, then you're going to have to pick it up again.
Marty, can you grab that for me?
Okay.
I'm fucking picking up.
I'm just going to go for it.
Just stand on.
Don't stand on it.
Sit.
Sit.
Okay.
Walk, walk with me.
Ready?
Yeah.
Okay.
Lose.
I'm on you with you.
PFT.
Oh, it's going slower now with our week.
It's going slower with our weight.
You can feel it's actually good for my back.
Dude, it's going so much slower with our weight on it.
My back feels a million percent better right now.
100% feel.
It was like, they say to sleep on a firm mattress.
This is as firm as it gets.
It's a bigger guy.
This is the feeling I get every time I step on a treadmill
or in a golf cart where I'm like, oh, I don't want to get off.
I don't want to get off.
I guess I got to go.
All right.
I got to go off.
All right.
Bag is clean.
That was a great bag.
9 out of 10.
Yeah.
Very fast.
Good motor.
What's the horsepower on that thing?
Pretty solid horses.
Oh, no, I got the other ones back there.
All right.
So final ratings.
I'm going to say, now this is obviously on a curve
because the regional airport, obviously,
if we were voting like, hey, how do you feel about going
to like Paris from Madison?
It's not great.
Have you been to the Paris airport?
This is a million times better.
Yeah.
No, I love how small and quaint it is.
I'm going to give it an 8 out of 8 and a half out of 10.
I'm going to bump it up.
I'm going to bump it up to a 9.1.
Whoa.
I love these regional airports.
I think it's got everything that you need.
The bar was open, which is great.
You guys wouldn't let me have a beer because I don't know.
I guess I'm the only real man in this podcast.
Well, the bar wasn't open.
It was a gift shop with spotted cow.
Even better.
We're like, we can just buy it somewhere else.
All right.
Hank, your score and then we'll rank them through.
8.1.
So 8.1, 8.5, 9.1.
So that means that's a 9.
8.5.
8.6.
8.5.
5.
Let's say 8.6 for the people.
8.6.
It's a pretty good rating.
That's a great rating.
And look at this.
Look at the rental car area.
It's right here in the airport.
Hardly any lines whatsoever.
Although we couldn't get one.
Maybe I'll try to get one if I didn't pay for it.
I love this place.
That's it.
Tune in three, four years from now.
We'll do another airport review.
OK.
That was our Madison Airport review.
Let's do numbers.
Let's do numbers.
Let's do numbers.
By the way, we're going to hold us to this
because I'm going to say it out loud.
Bert Kreischer Monday.
Awesome fucking interview.
Incredible interview.
Yep.
Bert Kreischer Monday.
Talked about the Super Bowl.
Probably like an hour long.
Hank gets mad at me because I understand it.
I don't get mad.
Yeah.
But I do like having like when I do,
when we do an awesome interview and we don't have to run it right away,
I like having it in my back pocket where I can just like,
it's like a draw four card noodle.
Yeah, you announced it publicly,
but we've said Bert Kreischer the following show like for five episodes.
This one, I mean it.
I mean it this time, guys.
There's like 50-50 chance we won't do it.
All right.
Let's end with numbers.
Send everyone on their way.
Remember, clocks change.
I can't, my computer.
I'm going to go eight.
12.
OK, you know what?
I'll just do it off the top of my head.
What?
No, you guys, yeah, you guys.
That's not how it works.
No, you guys text it.
Text it to the group chat and I won't look.
OK.
This is not how it works.
Yeah, no, I don't get it.
I'm not going to guess.
Hang on, let me watch.
I'm going to do it in my head.
Yeah, text it.
I'm not looking.
I'm not looking.
My phone is down.
You see it?
My phone is down.
Phone is down.
And my Wi-Fi is off.
Ready?
Is everyone set it?
Set.
61.
I got it.
No, I'm just kidding.
Shit.
That would have been sick.
What were your guesses?
99.
66.
Oh, kind of close.
29.
Oh, damn.
I mean, it was five off.
Somebody out there playing at home guessed it right.
Yeah, 61.
That would be that would be an electric one.
That was a true random number, generally,
because I was I was literally just like I emptied my brain.
I was like, just whatever number pops in my head.
Also, it sucks that Rick Petino is not going to be a therapist.
Yeah, but then again, Rick Petino,
it almost makes me think he might be
because he lies so much.
Yeah.
You don't think that he just pulled out of opening like that?
That's our show.
Love you guys.
You're all things I've got to remember.
Are you shying away?
Well, I'll be coming for you anyway.
Are you shying away?
Well, I'll be coming for you anyway.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take on me.
Take me on.
I'll be gone.
In a day.