Pardon My Take - Adam Schefter, Combine Week Live From Indy, 8 Year Anniversary Of The First PMT + Vanny Woodhead Is Somehow Back

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

We’re in Indy for the NFL Combine and taping exactly 8 years to the day of the first recording of Pardon My Take. We Talk NFLPA franchise grades, Tyreek Hill’s weird lawsuit, what the hell is goin...g on with Meek Mill and more (00:00:00-00:43:34). Adam Schefter joins us for his annual in person appearance during the combine to catch up on the past year, talk Draft, breaking Groundhog news and more (00:43:34-01:34:59). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and the insane revelation that Vanny Woodhead is still alive (01:34:59-01:59:49).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we have our yearly Combine interview with Adam Schefter. Great time catching up with Schefti. He gives us some nuggets about the league. We talk about his breaking news of Punxsutawney Phil. Maybe we get an answer to the Des tape.
Starting point is 00:00:29 Steven Shea gets a couple questions in because he's a chefty super fan. We're at the combine. We're gonna talk a little combine. We got the report card for the NFL PA. Hank's number two Patriot of all time. Wow. Big one.
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Starting point is 00:03:26 It's a part of my take presented by Varsity Sports Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings Sportsbook Today is Friday, March 1st This is March We've arrived, boys That's wild, so we're recording this on leap day, which really threw off my entire calendar.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Happy birthday to us, by the way. Eight years are doing this podcast. Our second birthday today. That kind of blows my mind. Yeah. Eight years. So the... High school and college.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Yeah. Whoa. For some people, yeah. For some people, yeah. The, yeah, some people take longer. The, it's crazy, I was looking back because I couldn't remember the exact timeline. The first episode debuted, I think on March 3rd or 4th,
Starting point is 00:04:12 but we had recorded it on the leap day in PFT's house in Austin. That's right, in my kitchen. Chris Jones' dick flopped out at the combine. It was one of those things where it was meant to be. Yeah. To have that story break the morning that we record our first episode
Starting point is 00:04:25 where a man's penis broke through his shorts while he ran the 40 yard dash at the combine, it felt like we were always destined to do the show. And if you put it into perspective, if you had told us eight years ago that the man's penis who flopped out at the combine was gonna be a three time Super Bowl champion, we probably would have said, okay.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yeah, I would say, okay, he is a football player. Yeah, he is gonna play football, so that could happen. He's a good football player, so maybe he'll get on a good team, though, when the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's a pretty big whoa. And then he would be a free agent. Eight years from that, to that day, his free agency looms. Just crazy.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Full circle moment. That first episode was also recorded at 7 a.m. in the morning. Did we that remember that second episode? No, we tried or like we're gonna record No, no, no the first episode we recorded in PFT's house. Yeah in like the afternoon They were record some of it in the beginning in the morning possibly. Oh, we recorded the majority of it I think yeah, we did the segments at a normal time and we'll do the kind of Yeah, we did the segments at a normal time and we'll do the current event. People forget that the first week of Pardon My Take was a morning show, which was the worst idea ever, because not only are we not morning people, even though actually this is, we should just make it every time we do the year anniversary, we have to record it in the morning.
Starting point is 00:05:39 That's the worst idea ever. It's the morning right now. No. But we're not morning people, and then also we found out very quickly that it was an unsustainable practice because we would wake up, record at eight in the morning. And then I would just text Hank every five minutes for the next five hours being like, is the podcast ready? Yeah, is it up?
Starting point is 00:05:58 Stories were like breaking me like, Wait, should we add to this? Yeah, so so the problem with doing the easy thing about doing a morning show is that you have the topics that are already laid out for you because the storylines are already out there. Yeah, the games already have. Then you get to react to like the storylines to the storylines. We're down in the trenches right after the games are over. We're creating it.
Starting point is 00:06:18 We're like, we're farming that like pure uncut cocaine of sports takes right after the games and then somebody else turns into crack the next morning. That's the easy part. We're down there doing the hard work. And I mean, credit to us for realizing it was a terrible idea almost immediately, that and the reggaeton horn, and changing on the fly and becoming a night podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Do you wanna bring back a segment for today's show? We could do four good minutes. We could do her or injured Kyle Phil Palski. Uh, he is injured, severe injury. Jay, Jay bill has told me that he was sore. That's an injury. I've, I've thought back about the J. Billis.
Starting point is 00:06:56 I want to give, I know the AWLs didn't love that interview because we don't usually do contentious interviews. And I give all the credit in the world for J. Billis for just coming on because he probably knew it was going to go that way. I need you guys to promise me that you'll stand up for me and with me next time someone says I use the wrong word because I'm not as dumb as he was making me feel in that moment when he said I used disingenuous incorrectly. That's literally what I did. Yeah. I told him. I was like, when you said that.
Starting point is 00:07:25 You needed to do a screeching halt because he made me feel really dumb. Well, that's the Duke in him. It's kind of like your default setting. If you go to Duke, it's like, well, this person doesn't have a Duke education. So clearly he's not as smart as I am. But in that moment, I did tell him.
Starting point is 00:07:38 I was like, no, I think he did use the word correctly because Jay is smart enough to understand there's a difference between Kansas storm in the court and Butler Storm in the court, right? There's a difference between those two things. And also, yes, Kansas's football program, the students have stormed the field many times. Forgot to say that there's two moments this week where I'm like, Kastan's a walking away being like, damn, I should have thought of that. It's the Kansas storms the field and football and Hank rooted for Tom Brady at the box
Starting point is 00:08:06 when he was trying to bash Patrick Kane. That's true. Those are the two moments is like, damn it. You gotta be smarter than that, Dan. It's very true. Yeah. Hank was the biggest. The biggest.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Well, people were like, dude, how do you not bring up Hank in the box? And I was like, fuck. But he was a Bucks fan and then he was a Cowboys fan. Yeah, that's true. He did turn his back on Tom Brady's show. That's true, but eight years. I love you guys.
Starting point is 00:08:30 This has been the, I mean, not to get sentimental, but it's obviously changed our life so significantly to the point where it's like, I can't imagine if this didn't happen. We've had this conversation, PFT. I think when we were at the Arizona Bowl driving back, just the two of us were like, could you imagine if like this didn't happen? Like, this conversation PFT. I think when we were at the Arizona Bowl driving back just the two of us, and we're like, could you imagine if like this didn't happen?
Starting point is 00:08:47 Like this is our lives. This is our life's work. Yeah, this is, it is, it's our life's work. It's our legacy. Yeah. How about that? We're, this podcast is our legacy. We will, it'll be in the first like line of the obituary. Unless one of us dies in a crazy way,
Starting point is 00:09:03 then that would probably be the first line. Or unless somebody commits multiple bank robberies and has a lawyer that goes on TV to use football analogies to describe your guilty plea. Chief Sahalik's lawyer rocks. That dude is awesome. I have a problem though. I really wish he didn't say his government name.
Starting point is 00:09:19 Xander? Xavier. Xavier, yeah. Xavier's something or other. And I was like, that kind of ruins it. He's Chief Sahhollick. But yeah, we had Chief Sohollick lawyer show up again and he started by saying,
Starting point is 00:09:30 Chief Sohollick, the government has been blitzing and Xavier's pocket was collapsing. But today Xavier stepped into the pressure. And then he continued to say, we know if he stumbled and he fell, he didn't let his knee touch the ground. That's when you know you got a good lawyer. But he did take a plea when I think the very definition of a plea is like kneeling.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, kneeling the ball kneeling the ball out. So yeah, in a loss, he did in a loss. He took a lot. You're down 40 and you're like, I don't want to get anyone injured. Let's just kneel it out. Yeah. The lawyer making all the football analogies is awesome. The one thing I would tweak about the lawyer, because every time he does a press conference, he loves hammering home the fact
Starting point is 00:10:08 that his client is a football fan, which is cool. We know too, just so you know, we do know he is Chief Sahalik. That's the reason that we're talking about him. We wouldn't be talking about him otherwise. I would like if the lawyer was a little bit like more of a football guy. It still seems from time to time, like when he's talking, it's something that I think that Chief Sohollick
Starting point is 00:10:27 writes these statements and then has the lawyer deliver them when I would prefer it if the lawyer was like a big football guy, like making these analogies on his own. But once he runs out of the ones that Xavier gives to him, then he just goes back into lawyer speeches as his default. But I like the theater of the lawyer being like, OK, Chief Sahal, you guys know he's a football fan.
Starting point is 00:10:48 Well, here's how I'm going to describe him, accepting a plea deal on multiple bank robberies to go to prison for years is by just giving you a football game. And it's smart because, like you said, no one cares about this if it was just a regular person. We you know that football fans are tuning in to to anytime this lawyer gets in front of a microphone, so he has dumbed it down to where like, okay, all right, so he was getting a blitz,
Starting point is 00:11:11 all right, he's stepping up in the pressure, I see it, okay. Yeah, didn't get a need in touch with him. All right, yeah, you know what, he's free. You know, in Saudi Arabia for stealing, they would take a hand off. I would like to see him expand his repertoire a little bit and dive a little bit deeper, but I think if you were to ask Chief Soholluk,
Starting point is 00:11:29 would you trade how many years in prison? A lot. A lot? Like let's say five years in prison. Five to a lot. Would you trade five years in prison for a dynasty? The answer for Chief Soholluk is resounding yes. And I hope that they let him wear his wolf costume in jail. That would be awesome. That would be
Starting point is 00:11:45 awesome. That would be that although I feel like there's some kinks that would probably be attracted to that. Like there's got to be some furries in jail. You think they're furries in prison? Like we've been waiting all our life for a furry to show up. Yeah. He just gets humped all the time. Yeah. Speaking of the chiefs, we had the NFLPA report card come out, which this rocks, so this is the second year in a row that they've done this. The Commander's are last. It feels personal.
Starting point is 00:12:12 It does feel personal, but you have a new owner who is also sitting in on every quarterback interview. Can we take it, let's take one, let's take it one, one slight at a time, please. Yeah, Josh Harris is sitting in on quarterback interview a combine week just directly behind Yeah, I will address all the accusations one at a time But it's not fair to put both the report card and Harris on me at the same time That's you're on the tepid spectrum. It feels it feels personal the NFL PA report card
Starting point is 00:12:39 No, no, let's talk about Josh Harris going to know we're taking a real quick We'll go back to it because I actually wanted to talk about commandments. An F minus is not a great. It is. It does not exist. 49 or below. It's an F. That's what an F is. An F minus is not a real actual thing that people get.
Starting point is 00:12:56 To have treatment of families, to get an F minus in treatment of families, seems like the very worst thing that you can say about somebody like, okay, they've got a great strength coach, but they fucking hate children. Yeah, they're bad parents. Yeah, his family. I actually wasn't going to talk about the commanders much of this because it's almost like the sun will rise, the commanders will finish last in this poll. It wasn't anything new. So I do want to go back to Josh Harris real quick. He's he's sitting in all these interviews. I think here's
Starting point is 00:13:24 my spend zone. I think he's evaluating the people that he hired to evaluate. He's evaluating the evaluators. Yes, he's sitting there. He's watching, he's watching Adam and Dan Quinn do conduct the interviews with the quarterbacks to see what kind of questions they're asking as part of his ongoing evaluation process of his own team. So totally normal. Very normal. Very normal behavior, but from Josh Harris, not a control freak. Very normal. Very normal.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I'm fine with it. I think it's good. At what point do you think he will insert himself into the game plan meetings? Never. Will that be Thursdays or Fridays? Never. It's not gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:13:58 He's gonna do the walkthroughs. He's gonna be like, hey, you know what? Let me just be under center for this walkthrough. If you're Dan Quinn and the other coaches in these meetings, how do you yeah ask him for his opinion? And then do you have to take you have to take it? Would you think Josh and then how do you not listen to what he says? Yeah, he's gonna be like you're like, what do you think Josh?
Starting point is 00:14:20 He's like I really like Drake may and the guys in the room be like yeah, yeah, that's what I was gonna say Drake May Yeah, I think that this is such a big decision for the future of the franchise that they want everybody in the room To be involved and on the same page going forward. I think it's like this is a decision that could Possibly change the direction in a much maybe we'll get F pluses in 10 years if we draft the right quarterback What does he know? What does Josh Harris know? He knows people. He's a people person. He's probably a connector. I would love it if Josh Harris was actually in the room asking them basketball questions. You know what though?
Starting point is 00:14:51 PFT now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah. Josh Harris might just be in the room practicing his handshake. Yeah. Because he had that bad handshake. So maybe he's just getting reps in. It's the combine for him too, where he's like, I got to I got to learn how to shake hands again. Joe Buck had the bad bad handshake. again. Joe Buck had the bad hand shake. Well, Josh Harris had the bad hand. He did the, the, the, the.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I think it's completely normal. Robert Kraft was intimately involved in everything going on behind the scenes with the quarterbacks in New England. And his decision was like, I'm gonna let Bill coach the team, but he was involved in all those conversations. I think that Josh Harris is,
Starting point is 00:15:22 any one of us, if you owned an NFL team, you would want to be in the room, right? Right, but that analogy doesn't really work because Robert Kraft would have, if he was the one making the decisions, he would have had blood so start. And Josh Harris is now gonna have whoever he wants to have start.
Starting point is 00:15:37 But it's the same thing where you're, just because your owner's in the room doesn't mean he's the one making the decision. I think he's gonna make some decisions. I think he's gonna make some decisions. Everything's going to be fine. Everything's gonna the decision. I think he's going to make some decisions. I think he's going to make some decisions. Everything's going to be fine. Everything's going to be wonderful. I choose to not dwell on this too much because I'm delusional.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You know what? I have good news for you, PFT, okay? So back to the NFLPA report card. This reporter, Nick Cordy, K-O-R-T-E, I just want to shout him out because he did good work with this on Twitter, Nick Cordy. He did a list of all the grades, uh, from the NFL PA and then categorized them with teams that the owner purchased the team and teams that the owner inherited the team. And I think it's, I think it's nine out of the top 10 packers, not included
Starting point is 00:16:23 because they, they're weird and they pretend that everyone owns a piece of the team nine out of the top 10 not excluding the Packers Were teams that the owner purchased the team and then all the bad grades essentially Were teams where the owners inherited the team basically fail sons and daughters Who are driving whatever they're they inherited into the ground which usually happens in all these situations. So that's good for you. It is a positive thing. The Dolphins got first by a mile in the Dolphins and Vikings one and two so the Dolphins report
Starting point is 00:16:56 card was a minus a a a a a minus a plus a a. No notes pretty good. The the strength and conditioning line always stands out. Last year the Ravens got like an F in strength and conditioning. The commanders are one good grade being an A for strength and conditioning coach. Seemed to me at first like, okay, at least we have a great strength program. And then I thought about it more. I don't think I'd want my players to give my strength and condition coach an A. Because don't you want like that guy to be the
Starting point is 00:17:29 hardest person in the world on you? I think you kind of want to hate your strength coach a little bit, right? Yeah, like maybe you don't want an F. But it getting like a C plus or a B, you want that guy to like push you to be super super uncomfortable all the time. Yeah, that's true. If your strength coach is welcoming you with like cookies and cupcakes every morning for, for your morning lift, um, and you're like super happy with them, like your best friend, probably not that effective of a strength coach. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 You don't want to be well liked. Okay. I think that might be more also the facilities too, although that was in there as well. The, uh, the other funny things that came out was the Chiefs are winning Super Bowls while everyone hates everyone except Andy Reid. They basically got like Ds, Cs, Ds and Fs in everything but Andy Reid who got an A+, including the owner got an F- because the story goes that the Chiefs wanted a new locker room because their locker room was very outdated.
Starting point is 00:18:26 They won the Super Bowl last year. The players came back. They got a new locker room. And by that, I mean they went from stools to chairs with backs to them. That was the big upgrade. It's huge. That's that though is crazy to me. Like if you're Clark Hunt, the amount of money that Patrick
Starting point is 00:18:42 were homes is is pumping into your franchise right now, you should be wanting to spend every dollar on making it a fun place to be. It should just be whatever Patrick Holmes wants. Correct. It's crazy. I don't understand any of these. The report card's actually good though because they had a note, like, remember the Jaguars had rats last year?
Starting point is 00:19:03 They got a new facility. They don't have rats anymore. So it's actually changing things. Like even the Bengals, one of the cheapest owners in all of sports, they were complaining because they had to pay for their food. Now he was like, hey, guess what? I'm a billionaire, I'm gonna help you guys out.
Starting point is 00:19:19 I'm gonna give you free food, three free meals on Wednesdays. Just Wednesdays. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah, just Wednesdays. But that's a step in the right direction. That's such a hilarious compromise to me. That's essentially what we do at Barney Sports. Like once a week, you get a free meal. I'll say this Wednesday is not a bad day though, because Monday I think most guys, they usually give them off Tuesday, they got to go in Wednesday is the it's hump day. It's it's a shitty day It's the no man's land of the week. So three feet free meals. That's a perfect day to do it
Starting point is 00:19:49 I wouldn't want to do it on Friday Friday's Friday Friday's Friday And you want you want to kind of have your free plate lunch on Friday now the Eagles they they gave their coach an A treatment of families C Team travel C now I would team travel I think it's impossible to get a high grade in team travel. Everyone hates travel. The Patriots have two planes, and they got a D.
Starting point is 00:20:11 They're probably old. Old planes. Well, they're also team travel is, what was- Who else had two planes? The bills? The Bucks had a line where they force their players to pay $1,700, I think it was $1,750 if they wanna stay alone when they travel.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, that was one of the options that like per travel. Yeah, per week. Yeah, team's got a plan. 1,700? Yeah. That seems like a lot. It does. Bad franchise.
Starting point is 00:20:44 It seems like somebody's pocketing some money off that. Yeah, that definitely, they're upcharging the hotel room. It's one guy on the team that's like, yeah, you gotta pay me $1700 for that. Steven Che is here, so he's gonna, I asked him to do a firefest. Why don't you save your thoughts? You can respond to all these when we get to firefest.
Starting point is 00:20:58 But the other funny wrinkles in this, the Broncos had a bunch of cars stolen from them at training camp. That was kind of cool. Cars? Yeah. Yeah, that was cool. They, what was it?
Starting point is 00:21:12 They were multiple cars stolen from the parking lot of the mandated team hotel during training camp. I love that. I love that. So it was doing Fast and Furious with the Broncos cars. It's probably just future. Yeah. Just running up there with his crew. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And then the other one that was, because the timing of this, I think they did it in like the summer and like early fall. So most of the coaches got like A's and B's. Arthur Smith got a C plus, Ron Rivera got a C. The only one who got a D was Josh McDaniels. So it's good to know that even in the blind poll, everyone fucking hates Josh McDaniels. I love that a lot. Yeah. It's actually Josh McDaniels grade actually like validates this entire poll where they're like,
Starting point is 00:21:55 yeah, they're giving honest answers. Josh McDaniels is a fucking douchebag. He got a D. So I noticed a lot of really bad grades when it comes to the locker room, like across the board board players are not happy with The locker room, but my theory is that college locker rooms have gotten so out of control good That is a step back when you go to the NFL like college coaches should be like yeah You can go pro and make millions of dollars, but you don't get the barber chair. Yeah, the chiefs don't have a slide Yeah, there's no water. So there's no water for an I L that was the only thing they had Yeah, we could we can't spend money
Starting point is 00:22:26 on players. We'll just get a new law. I remember I went into like maybe it was like four or five years ago, I went to Clemson's training facility and they had a literal slide that we weren't allowed to use. But I, I basically bullied Brandon Walker to use him. Then he got yelled at right away, which is a very funny visual. Just a big old man going down a slide and then those training staff were being like, hey, don't use that slide. But they told me they're like, yeah, we just opened this like two years ago and it's already outdated. So you're right. Like the college locker rooms and the training facilities are insane. It's an arms race. It's like every year before NIL, every single year, teams would put all their expendable money into upgrading the locker room. It's like every year before NIL every single year Teams would put all their expendable money into upgrading the locker room. It's like players are like
Starting point is 00:23:07 Can we please have a thousand dollars a month to buy food? They're like guess what we got a new waterfall. Yep Putt putt. Yeah putt putt. Let's go. We're gonna there was a batting cage But yeah, the I love this NFL PA poll. It's it's great just because it's just a bunch of Anonymous snitching and, if you're an owner, you have to dread this. And I also, I still will never understand. And maybe this is just how I'm wired, but like if I had billions of dollars, I would spend a good portion of that money to make sure that the assets that I have on my team are very well taken care of.
Starting point is 00:23:42 Yeah. Maybe that's easier said than done, but you Patrick Moems would get whatever he want. Well, he got a back to his chair. Yeah, that's pretty nice. That's huge. The Patriots got some shitty grades to Hank. I know they got bad grades with coaching staff,
Starting point is 00:23:56 bad grades with ownership to ownership, travel. But that's where it's like, it's hard for me to really believe the travel thing when they have two planes. Yeah. So that kind of makes the whole list. What's your thing with two planes? He believe the travel thing when they have two planes. Yeah, so that kind of makes the whole list What what's your thing with two planes? You just want to play it. You have two planes How can you travel be bad if you have your literal own plane like well? They're probably old planes. Yeah, they might be even mean like they could be planes from 20 years ago
Starting point is 00:24:17 I want a plane where I'm able to lay down. They could be a Boeing 737 max. Yeah, did you think about that? No, I think they're big ass, nice planes. I've seen them. Okay. All right. Anything else from this? I mean, it's yeah, it's great that it comes out right now. The leading sentence of the commander's locker room issue was multiple sewage leaks contributed to their F minus. I would say that probably does it. One sewage leak is an F. That's, I'll give you the F minus on the locker room because of the multiple sewage leaks. All the other F minuses, I think, are personal.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Yeah, the Bucks also had bugs in their showers. Yikes. That's Florida, though. Yeah, that is Florida. There also was the, everyone made the same joke at the same time, which it's a funny joke, but I think the Chargers, there was a line about the Chargers charging
Starting point is 00:25:06 Extra for daycare and everyone was like well if you have Phil Rivers and Antonio Cremardi you need to do this Yeah, so Crack congrats everyone for making a very funny joke. It's a good joke. Yeah, it's a good joke. Mm-hmm. All right What else we got going on we you see the college football playoff is already ready to change again. I saw that, yeah. Rules. I like it. I don't like it because I like the first iteration
Starting point is 00:25:31 that they came out with. Now it's starting to get too confusing. They're starting to Jeff D. Loeify the college football playoffs. What are they changing it to? They're gonna change it to 14. They're gonna give the big 10 and the SEC three automatic qualifiers.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So the top three in each of those conferences will automatically ban the ACC and the in the big 12 will get two automatic qualifiers and then there'll be one automatic qualifier from the group of five. I don't like that. I don't like that at all. I like the old way. So here's the only thing that I like about it because I was talking we we are in Indy so we get to meet a bunch of people. I met Ross Dellinger, he's a Yahoo Sports College football reporter, really good guy. We're going to have him on the show this fall because he knows a shitload about college football. He was saying, because I was like, why would they play conference championship, like why would they have conference
Starting point is 00:26:19 championships if the top three go? Like there's no reason to play that extra game and he It was a hypothesis because there's nothing set in stone. He said that it will eventually Get to a point where it's the fourth and the third will play for that third spot, which that kind of rocks So if you're a fourth place team in the big 10 you play in the conference championship game or whatever They're gonna call it you play in an extra game to like it's like a play into the playoffs. I get that. But also we're setting up these rules for maybe 10, 20 years down the line. These rules are still going to exist. And the college football landscape changes every like two to three years. They'll find it's like, who knows what the conferences will
Starting point is 00:27:03 eventually look like then and giving three automatic qualifier Yeah, I know it feel I like I like the way it was set up. It was easier to understand for dummies like me I agree But they're they're gonna do something that the I think the initial plan was like the big 10 in the sec We're like we get four teams automatic. So they're playing a little strong arm with them I still think it's gonna be no different than Cable to streaming back to cable where we're bundling all the streaming now They're gonna get to a point where they just start making like regional divisions and it's like well, okay
Starting point is 00:27:32 So Oregon, Washington USC and UCLA are in a division. Why don't we just call it the pack for mm-hmm? And then we'll get there and then we'll be happy. Yeah, so this new proposal. It's not ratified yet, right? No, I wouldn't have until at least 2026. So 24 and 25 will have the current college football setup. Okay. What is this year? This year is the current college football set. With 12, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah, 24, 25 will have the 12 teams, the four buys, they're automatic championship winners. So it still matters for the championship game and then the other at large. And then this is just something they've been, they're gonna do it because essentially what they're doing is they're gonna, the big 10 and the SEC are going to strong on everyone else
Starting point is 00:28:17 because they are the number one and two asset in college football and they're like, we need our teams guaranteed to be in. Because they have all the power. And that's just how it's gonna work. Can we do a Hank's on the streets? Sure. Or Hank explains it. I like it. What's going on with Meek Mill? Yeah. So I just pulled up Meek Mill's timeline to pull up the relevant tweets that he fired off yesterday some all-timers. He's putting on a master class right now in terms of retweeting to flood the timeline. I think he's got
Starting point is 00:28:43 like 30 or 40 retweets in a row. He's got new music coming out. The music coming out. So that's what's happening right here? So the Meek Mill, he's trending because he's got a fire new album coming out. He's independent, he's putting out music independently, so they're trying to take him down.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Yeah, so he's got some serious heaters. One of them was when I got a girl around me, I'm fucking her twice a day, LOL asks some of your favorites. Pussy don't control me, but it's like a high one love to the gay people with that juicy pussy do it for me. I done ran red lights to get that feeling. You're all weird on here like devils.
Starting point is 00:29:17 LOL. How much do you guys like pussy? I love love pussy. I think I would go. I think I would go through yellow light. I don't know if I'd run a red. You don't want to be said would would you have red light cameras? That's not worth it. I would speed I would drive over the speed limit. Yeah, I would do for that gush for that juicy pussy and then he also had
Starting point is 00:29:36 I'm from Philly. I don't do coke or freaky ass molly Nobody won't even offer me coke because I'm that heavy. Does that mean that? Or is it no it's just like he he's such a non-coke guy like you wouldn't even think me Coke because I'm that heavy. Does that mean fat or is it? No, it's just like he's such a non-coke guy. Like you wouldn't even think to be like, hey, you want some of this? Oh, I assume that was just a fat thing where it's like, you don't offer a fat guy Coke because like they're not doing it. They might die. They're fat. No, they might kill them. If they were, if they were, if they did Coke, they would be skinnier. Yeah. It's like, why waste your time with this guy? What is, I'm from Philly have to do with that.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Like I'm from Philly, so no one offers me Coke. I don't think that's how it works. And then, yeah, he said no man or what would ever approach me about gay activity in the whole place. Don't get flipped, woke up seeing this on every blog. Like they know I'm coming because there's a court filing. Yeah, someone sued Diddy and there's been obviously a lot of allegations with Diddy the last three or four months.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Along these lines and someone sued him one of his former workers or colleagues and in the lawsuit. It straight up said like he knew like he was there when did he had sex relations with redacted and redacted and then I don't know how court filings work and doesn't really make sense for them to redact the names because at the bottom Of the page it had like an answer key that said Answer it said no it said redacted person one is a rapper from Philadelphia who dated Nicki Minaj Redacted person two is an R&B singer who just performed the Super Bowl So clearly three anyone is a patriot fan who? Who produces a podcast. Yeah, no, that wasn't in there.
Starting point is 00:31:09 But clearly Usher and Meek Mill were the two Redacted names and then everyone has been talking about it and Meek Mill is now just, you know, claiming that they're trying to take him down because he's got a it before his albums he was on a label he's got guy friends now he's independent and he's trying to put out music independently and this is the industry trying to take him down they're trying to take him down because he's too straight yeah like he when he has one love to the gays though he has sex with women twice a day yep it could not be any more clear than that he's not He's not. He's not addicted to it either.
Starting point is 00:31:45 No, it's a high for one love to the gay people, but that juicy pussy do it for me. Yeah. Um, that's such an awesome thing to just type in the hit send off for me. Uh, all right. So that's Hank hot in the streets, brought back a segment for it. Kyle Flaupowski hurt or injured. What bullshit that was by the Dukes, the Dukes. He was never even close to hurt. Jay Billis would tell you that a soreness is an injury. It is.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It is. That I literally tweeted. Yeah, you literally tweeted on Tuesday, like I'm never doing a comment again. I said, I might I said I'm contemplating retirement. Yeah. But I haven't retired. I'm always contemplating retirement. Yeah, so it's always on my mind when I get what listen Sundays in the fall when we're working till 2 a.m. I get out of bed. I'm like a running back It's like hard to go down the stairs like should I hang it up? Yeah? Yeah bloggers and I get a fall in love in the game again Come Thursday we aged like presidents four years is like ten years for us. Yeah, we've been doing this for eight years.
Starting point is 00:32:46 We've been doing this for two for two terms. When I woke up on on Tuesday morning, I was I was embarrassed to say like my legs were very sore from jumping three times. Yeah, I was it was pathetic. I thought I was having a heart attack at one point because my chest was so sore. And I was like, oh, no, you just benched for the first time in five years. That's why you think you're having a heart attack Yeah, I also I went on Pittsburgh sports radio TV Love those guys went on there this morning and they were they were looking through the headlines of the combine and the way they
Starting point is 00:33:16 Asked me they're like so I see that Barstool sports had a combine and you're the winner of the combine It felt like a big slap in the face to me and also to Barstool Sports. But it ruled because I had like a- And also you weren't. A proud, what do you mean? Oh yeah, you were, yeah. Yeah, I had a proud friend.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I forgot, I forgot. Hank, Hank the Hater, coming at me. Get your facts right, Hank. You're right, you're right, you're right. I had a proud friend. You one athletic fuck. Last night, PFT, because a scout came up to me and was like, I saw your guys Combine,
Starting point is 00:33:42 I was like, what'd you think? He's like, I think you guys are in the right profession. And he's like, I saw the beginning did Will end up winning? And I was like, no, PFT won. Nice. Because of the Wonderlick. Because of the Wonderlick and the vertical leap, which was completely real.
Starting point is 00:33:56 There was a, yeah, you can jump higher than Francis and Mark Titus. Well, the way that it works with a vertical leap is not how high you can touch big cat. It's how high your feet get off the cat. I know. Yeah. I still think Titus. Well, the way that it works with a vertical leap is not how high you can touch big cat, it's how high your feet get off the mat. I know, I still think Titus probably can jump higher. I tapes the other way. I touched rim last year,
Starting point is 00:34:14 but I've gotten like, I've lost so much athleticism, I just feel in my body in the last year, I don't know what's going on. I have no, I never had explosive fast twitch muscles, I've always had slow twitch muscles, but they've gotten slower. Yeah, my fast twitch is very slow. I've also gotten fast twitch muscles. I've always had slow twitch muscles, but they've gotten slower Yeah, my fast twitch is very slow. I've also gotten to a point where I don't I don't stretch before doing anything because stretching is just More time you can get injured. Yeah. Well, you can't pull fat, right? That's facts John Daly. Is that John Daly?
Starting point is 00:34:38 I think so. Yeah, maybe David Ortiz. I don't know Or what's hello Cologne coach Wiley the guy for the Browns. Yeah. Could have been him. Wiley. You didn't see the troops stretching before they stormed the beach at Normandy. It's fact. All right. I have one other thing before we get to Hank's list. You might have something else to PFT the Tyra kill lawsuit. Yeah. That's something. It is something. So Tyra Kill will say better way better football player than guy. As good of a guy he is much, much, much better at playing football. He's being sued though by a woman who maybe broke her leg or hurt her leg. And the reason why this happened, allegedly, is it was a British social media influencer named Sophie Hall who put her son into Tyree Kills football camp.
Starting point is 00:35:32 But before the football camp started, Tyree Kills invited her and her son over to his house and he was running drills. So it goes, Hall claims after she made her way to Hill's home, he asked her to participate in some football drills during a training session. He was having in his backyard, Hill allegedly asked her to rush against him in a defensive line versus offensive line, one-on-one style workout. According to Hall, she shoved the Super Bowl champion
Starting point is 00:35:59 backward, which caused him to be embarrassed. Mr. Hill's attitude changed and became angry. Hall ledges Hill, then flipped the drill around so he could rush against her. And after a couple reps, she said, Hill charged into her violently and with great force causing her to suffer a right leg injury.
Starting point is 00:36:17 This sounds like it's a football drill. It sounds like I would, if I was the... It's a football drill. What do you, you get hurt in football drills? If I was the Buffalo Bills or if I was any other team in that division, I would consider signing Sophie to shut Tyree kill down. It says, unfortunately, after getting humiliated in front of friends and family
Starting point is 00:36:33 when he was knocked backwards during a friendly football lesson by his friend, Sophie Hall, Tyree became enraged and forcefully and purposefully shoved Miss Hall severely fracturing her leg. But that's also it was a football drill. Yeah. Sounds like she didn't get her feet moving. Yeah. Maybe bad technique on the part.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. This is just, I mean, I, Tyree Kil getting sued for this is, it's quite something. Yeah. Well, why do you think he invited her to his house? Was he like, I think your son's a good football player. I'd like to give him extra lessons probably, right?
Starting point is 00:37:03 Let me look her up and see. Let me see if she looks like... I think I follow her on Instagram. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah, he invited her for football. For football reasons. For football reasons only.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Definitely. Whenever I see, this is probably bad for me to admit, but when I see and named in a lawsuit, a party who's described first and foremost as being an influencer that's always a red flag for me. Yeah, I would say so. Influencer Sophie Hall. Seems like a nice woman. Let me see.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Oh my goodness. I want to see how nice her personality is. I had it and then it's loading, yeah. Oh, actually, let me take this back. So she seems like a nice woman but she also seems like she could play nose tackle. Okay. Yeah. She's got some curves.
Starting point is 00:37:51 She's, she could play nose tackle. I'll put it this way. Bill Belichick would look at drafting her in the first round. I'm not surprised she was able to blow up the line of scrimmage on Tyree Kim. She's got a motor. Yes. It doesn't quit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Hank. Yes. Number two. Number two. She's got a motor. Yes, it doesn't quit. Okay Hank Yes, number two number two. Yeah No, I'm just going to the time when I saw last night who I told them I Was like hey Hank's dropping his top ten Patriots. I don't know if you're on it. Vrable? Nope. Think horses. Welker. Yeah, Wes Welker, and he was a little upset. I mean, it was like, we spent a whole weekend
Starting point is 00:38:33 with you. We did spend a whole weekend together with the British Cup together. He is a great guy. He did look jacked. They were showing him in one of the episodes. He was ripped when he was playing for the Patriots. No rings though. I mean, the great, great dude,
Starting point is 00:38:47 what was Starstruck when we got to hang out with him? That was like 2013, early barcel days. I was geeking out. Oh yeah, we spent the whole weekend with Wes Welker and then in the last second Hank was like, can I get a picture? So dude, we just hung with him. But then it was also the worst hang
Starting point is 00:39:02 because we went to, yeah, Breeders Cup with him. And the next horse race he went to was in Kentucky Derby where he got busted for Molly. And I was like, I must be the biggest loser ever. Cause he was like, he probably brought some Molly to the Breeders Cup and was like, these guys suck. Yeah. Maybe.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I'm not gonna waste my Molly on them. Maybe you thought you were from Philly and knew not to offer you guys drugs. Yeah. But he was part of those teams. They lost the Giants. It was a down era for the Patriots, a lot of narratives, a lot of people saying,
Starting point is 00:39:30 Brady's wash, Brady and Belichick tend to break up the team. They only won three Super Bowls, disappointment, yada, yada, yada. This player came in, changed everything, just vibes-wise. He, you know, I think I was 18 or 19 when he signed with the team so I was an 18 19 year old he was everything Rob Gronkowski,
Starting point is 00:39:51 Gronk Spike, Freakin' Nature, the most fun player you know non-Tom Brady but just every everything he did was fun his attitude you know I've been lucky to party him and his brothers like they're as fun as advertised No, it's Robert. Oh, cuz there is his brothers. Yeah. Yeah, I'll still find guys No, but the whole the whole family is great great people Unbelievable player greats tight end of all time I think he might be the easiest player to root for if you're a fan of that team like Rob grunkowski It's impossible to not absolutely love the guy for your Patriots. And he is what he is. There's no there's no shtick. There's no
Starting point is 00:40:31 he's putting on an act. He's just chicks, football, beers, spike. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. That's the whole thing. That's how he probably that's gonna be his hall of fame speech. Yeah, he'll definitely try to he'll definitely try to spike something that will break. The bust. He'll try to spike his own bust in the hall of fame. Yeah, Gronk was, he was unguardable and also the funnest person in the world. Like I, I would agree with you putting Met Number 2. I think that's a good choice.
Starting point is 00:41:01 First night, first night we all hung out together. We were with, you you know members of the family I've met a lot of them over the years hung out with a bunch of times like I said, it's like they're they're as fun as advertised. Yeah, like they You know, they live the life that you think they live Which is which is great. That's like it's fun to see he was such a good player It's it's it's grown honorable mention Honorable mention Because you know, I'm still salty that the yadda yadda yadda 2003 2004
Starting point is 00:41:31 He was only on the team for a short amount of time, but he was you know an unbelievable running back in 2004 Corr dillon. Oh clock killing cordy on 1600 yards Dominated like he you know Patriots never really had a 1600 yards dominated like he you know Patriots never really had a Running back that was as you know superstar running back He was kind of like rainy moss before ready moss to or when they signed him It was like, you know trouble off the field and like he might not be a good fit for the team But they got him for nothing and then he just dominated that season and he was good 2005 as well So yeah, the era of big running backs, that's that.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Okay, good job. But he wasn't even in the documentary. Like it's crazy. And he was, that was, you know, 21 wins in a row. He was the star running back, 1600 yards. Doesn't even get a highlight in there. Crazy. How often do you think Wes Welker has somebody
Starting point is 00:42:17 come up to him and is like, congrats on all those Super Bowls. Like they think that he was on a Super Bowl change. Probably a lot. I mean, it's pain. He had, you know. It's tough. I mean it's pain he had you know He had it. He had that drop like it it probably pains him What do you think hurts West welker more when someone says congrats on the Super Bowls or someone's like hey that catch you made Against the Falcons was insane. Yeah, probably that way
Starting point is 00:42:40 Well, the in the clip the the wall I pip clip is so fun. The fellow track, he's like, you know Wally Pip? He's like, just give it to him then. Yeah. And he did. Oh, he can have it. Yeah. Damn. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:53 And he had it. Do we have anything else before we get to Schefter? I think we're good to go to Schefter. Great interview with Schefter. Combine week, and then we'll finish on the other side with Firefest, which I think we have a couple stories from Combine Week. PFT, you want to do an ad real quick before we get to Schefter?
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Starting point is 00:43:59 We appreciate it. And my first question is a tough question I wouldn't want it any other way and just start like that. Where's the des tape? No, we'll get to that later How the how the fuck did you get the punks of Tani Phil breaking news? Like are you is there a point where you're like? I've got enough because you did the NBA you've obviously owned the NFL and now you're doing little rats in in Western Pennsylvania Seeing their shadows like you enough is enough you got to be like I don't need this beat But you got it you broke the news. Well, I appreciate that that was probably the biggest story. I've had this year I would say yeah, really proud of that one stands on its own you scooped El Nino. Yeah, how did that happen? I? Had some plants there in Pennsylvania
Starting point is 00:44:46 that were done and set up well in advance. They knew the importance of that story to our country. Yes. They knew. And they knew that if they want that news dispensed on a big platform, they knew where to go with it. And so somebody there is kind enough to keep me in mind, like anybody on any NFL story, shot me the news. And now we're waiting for
Starting point is 00:45:10 spring to get here. And I don't think the message is hidden in the Annapolis. Yeah, no, it's definitely not. Definitely know that woj is going to have a guy in Poxetani next year. That's cool. You know, I'm good with that woj. I love woj. He's all over things. I love information. I love stories. Like, I love how much you love information.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Wait, do you do you ever sit down and like, because it's very few people that you can relate to. Let me say this. Yeah. Wodge knows me. I would say. Well, professionally speaking, better than my wife. Yeah. And it's not close. Whoa, you got I didn't know you guys were an item. Damn, we can understand exactly. Yeah. Like he'll call me
Starting point is 00:45:56 sometimes, God, I'm working on this trade. I'm waiting for this waiting for that. And sometimes I can say, do this or do that. Or sometimes I'll just say, Hey, you just got to wait now. And I know what he's feeling. I know what he's going through. I've been through the things that he's been through. He's been through the things I've been through. We go through them at various points of the year. And I love getting a text from woes will be like, God, I'm waiting on one right now. Right. Yeah, that feeling that is at the best. And by the way, like, we also talk about the business, what it's like.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Yeah. Talk about, you know, life at ESPN talk about. You know, how long can you do this? Oh, how long can you do this? As long as you can do it, as long as I have you. But do you feel yourself slowing down at all? Have you, have you had a moment in the last year where you're like old chef? He would have had that no that that's not how I feel okay
Starting point is 00:46:51 I still feel I still love the information like I was going after the groundhog. Yeah, I was going hard And nothing was gonna stand in my way your fingers getting slower like no at what age do you hit your prime as an insider? That's a great question. Yeah, thank, great question. You know, I think it just changes. I think what happens over time is you care less about some of the smaller things. And you recognize a lot of the noise that's just out there. And I don't really care about that noise. Like the other day when Peter King retired, he said something I put that on my phone because I thought it was very interesting. I broke the news big cat I thought he would cry. Mm-hmm. You thought he cried. Yeah, really. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:47:33 Well, he's he told me that Peter King died so But he didn't he didn't die fortunately No, but he he basically had enough but he said something he wrote one line in the column and I'm looking for exact I wrote it down. I you wrote it down. That's plagiarism Adam. You could copy and paste. Yeah, it's in my phone I'm just looking for right now. Oh You didn't bring any your lackeys although Steven Shea could wrote, the media has been conditioned to keep throwing logs in the fire day after day after day when absolutely nothing is happening. I'm thrilled to not contribute to that anymore. Yeah. No, it's true. When there's, when you have a lull or a dead period, there's the natural
Starting point is 00:48:18 inclination to be like, well, something's got to happen. I got to report something. And I don't really care about that. He talked about he had no interest in the head coach hiring cycle. I couldn't be more interested. You're right. Free agency couldn't be more interested. We'll get past the draft and there'll be throwing camps and conditioning camps and OTAs.
Starting point is 00:48:43 That you're not. Interest level not real high. Yeah, so it's interesting, because the last couple of years, I feel like we're talking about throwing logs on a fire. The discussion has, we're just like, let's talk about DAC again. Let's see, where are we at with DAC right now?
Starting point is 00:48:55 That's ranked some quarter. DAC is Duralog. Is he an elite? But I feel like- That's good. That's good. But Duraleat is what we should call him, because we're always having that discussion,
Starting point is 00:49:04 but I feel like this season is actually the time where it is interesting to talk about Dak and his contract and what the cowboys are going to be Doing with it. So I'm going to use this as an opportunity to ask you Is Dak Prescott going to sign an extension this year with Dallas Cowboys? Or is he going to be a free agent? I think they had to get something done with him. I mean, he's got a 59 and a half million dollar cap number They want to get a big deal done with cd land. They want to get a big deal done with CD Land. They want to get a big deal done with Micah Parsons. They want to upgrade their roster. Jerry Jones himself has said they're all in.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Well, how can you be all in if your quarterback is taking up that much of the cap? And by the way, if you don't get it done with him, then after the season, you can't tag him. So he could just leave. Can Dak also say, I don't want to sign extension? I want it for agency? I think he's got too much love and respect
Starting point is 00:49:53 for the organization, although there have been some mixed messages coming out of there. Yeah, from his camp, from his brother, yeah. Well, from both sides. Even Jerry Jones, was that a shot? We're only going to go as far as Dak takes us. So he didn't take you past the Packers in the divisional round.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I don't know. It was kind of weird to me that he said that. So in a way, I feel like Dak was being called out. And I don't know how that's going to impact the talks. But to me, they have to get something done with him. They have to. Yeah. So you mentioned something there, the coaching cycle
Starting point is 00:50:26 that you're very interested in. Why did Mike Vrabel and Bill Bele check not get jobs? Well, Mike Vrabel, I think, would have gotten the Chargers job if Jim Harbaugh had gotten onto the plane to go to Atlanta. Because I think Jim would have had a decent chance to get the Falcons, which obviously one move impacts another. And I think Vrabel had a great interview with the Chargers,
Starting point is 00:50:47 and they really liked him. And it just was one of those things that just didn't go his way in this cycle. I think the fact that he's out there, the fact that Bill's out there, I think it speeds up the coaching firing cycle next season when teams are ordinarily making moves. We get to Thanksgiving usually. Sometimes there's a move that's made early in the year. One
Starting point is 00:51:10 stray firing. Oh Carolina fired Frank Reich. But usually teams wait till after Thanksgiving and then they start trickling in. I think it wouldn't shock me if we started getting stuff like late October, early November, because teams want to go talk to Vrable, they want to go talk to Belichick. I mean, Pete Carroll is still out there, he should be in that conversation with the attitude he has. But Vrable I think came close in Los Angeles. Belichick came close in Atlanta, at one point people thought it was going to happen and I
Starting point is 00:51:42 think that there were just different factions and different groups and some people wanted them and then other people who didn't wound up prevailing, he doesn't get the Atlanta job. There were conversations with Washington at one point, it didn't happen, Washington was going to go in a different direction, they did talk to him, so it just didn't happen and I think when you look at some of the openings, like, I think these teams weren't looking for those kinds of guys this cycle. Right. But we'll get seven, eight, nine openings next year again. And I would think with the stature of these guys, and their accomplishments, they'll be top of the list. And I think they'll be in play next year. Okay, one more coaching question
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah, it's gonna hurt me. Did the Bears ever even reach out to Jim Harbaugh? I don't believe they did God damn it I don't believe he was in play there, and I think he was Chargers Falcons I sent him the video to like the video I made like sometimes you got to go back to move forward Of him and bears stuff and what did it do? He said that was a great video. That's all he said. He said that's a very nice video. I don't talk about another man's job Yeah, that hurts. Okay. Okay, so Bella checking Rable you would say if you had to guess right now 100% they get a job I would not I would never say 100% but I like both their chance. Okay, okay So it wasn't because Rable is too big. You don't think very well too physically intimidating
Starting point is 00:53:09 Right yeah, my idea is that there should be a Rooney rule for fat guys where every every offseason owners have to interview at least one Fat head coach. Yeah, you know like if variable is too big I'm surprised that I haven't been under consideration for a go to job PFT would fit right in I'd be top of the list. Yeah, you guys get fired in September for me. Yeah, five, seven, five, eight. Like, we're ready to take on the world. I'm five, nine, two, one.
Starting point is 00:53:32 Take on the other goji. If that's the qualification, we can do it. If we're going to come in guns blazing, I think you got shorter. Because I walked in this room and I was like, oh, I think I'm taller than you. Maybe I grew. I might have grown over the last year,
Starting point is 00:53:42 Chester, you never know. It's, listen listen I'm at the age where I start shrinking like my dad when I stand next to him now I notice like every time I use that eye level and now he's down to my chin like it's weird this is a really cute combo between the two of you listen we get it big guy you don't you don't feel our pain no I don't you sit up there in your treetops and you're born on third base act like you hit a triple because you hit the genetic lottery man Yeah, this builds character if an ass shorter man should be over six feet I'll say and you know what? I'm gonna blame my parents right like short parents And it was at a day and age where my parents, you know, my mom smoked cigarettes my dad's like they're smoking drinking
Starting point is 00:54:23 They they salted you absolutely You could have been you could have been a varsity athlete. I could have been dunking. I could disqualify myself for any coaching openings that I'm now in consideration for. So I got a question for you about about mock drafts. Because my the mock that's another thing that I have no use for. So the mock draft industry is it's become a cottage industry. Steven Chays are what second ranked lieutenant. Yeah. You
Starting point is 00:54:48 actually broke that news. Yeah. But I and it hurt me. Yeah. It hurt me to do. Yeah. It hurt all of us. Yeah. It was it was that some stories they cut to the bone. Right. That one. It brings me no pleasure to report that I have the motive. Exactly. Exactly. But if you had to if you were to put together like you're the Adam Schefter mock top five with the information that I have the motor. Exactly. But if you had to, if you were to put together like you're the Adam Schefter Mach top five with the information that you have because you you swim in information, I think you could be like the best mock draft compiler of all time. There are some years where you feel like you can get a lot of the picks. And there are other years
Starting point is 00:55:23 that something happens that just upsets the apple cart and kind of throws things into chaos. So I think there are some years that I would be fairly accurate and other years, like a lot of people, not as accurate. I just think that those exercises are so hard. That's why I don't put much credence. They're fun to look at. Like, you could look at a mock draft over and over. Like eating pizza, it's all good. But some of them, again, if there's one trade and one guy goes, it just changes everything. Or if the Raiders reach like they do every year, it changes everything.
Starting point is 00:55:55 The fastest guy possible. But there have been times where there will be people that call you from teams, hey, give me your top 15 picks. There were some years that were big. Mm-hmm Other years not as big so this year. Yeah, I'll Williams is a bear Can we announce that right now? Go ahead? Okay. I'm not gonna stop you Williams is a bear Where is Justin Fields gonna that's that's the question. I'm sure you're working on it right now Because it right now it does feel like they're going to make the trade before maybe free agency. Well, it was it was amazing. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:56:28 Ryan polls could have been more transparent about that like we want to get this done before free agency begins. What's interesting to me is that there are going to be moves that are made right like Kirk Cousins is a free agent. Does he go back to Minnesota and what if he doesn't Baker Mayfields a free agent? Does he go back to Tampa? Or does he not? Like these moves impact other so then if one of these teams happened to lose a quarterback, would they then be more apt to go
Starting point is 00:56:54 trade for Justin Fields? But the Bears want to get it wrapped up as a courtesy to Justin Fields. Yeah, yeah, which and again, what if they don't get the compensation that they want to do? What is the compensation? Well, what are they don't get the compensation that they want to get? What is the compensation? Well, what are you hearing? Well, I think it's pretty simple. Ryan Poles, the Bears General Manager, worked in Kansas City at the time that they traded for Alex Smith.
Starting point is 00:57:15 They traded two twos to the 49ers for Alex Smith. Sam Darnall to me, when you talk to people, might be the most relevant compensation comparison. The Jets traded him to the Panthers in 21, I believe it was, and it was for a six that year and a four and a two the next year. So three picks, a two, four and six. And I think that the Justin Fields compensation is somewhere between what Alex Smith got and what Sam Darnold brought. So like a second and a fourth or something.
Starting point is 00:57:52 A two and a four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, I can deal with that. A two and a three. Something like that. Yeah. But here's the problem. Like who's the team that's doing it?
Starting point is 00:58:00 Right. Right. Like Atlanta might have some interest, might not. I think it's got some interest in some other quarterbacks, too Is Pittsburgh gonna do that when they still want to give Mitchell Trubisky a chance or they give up any picky You mean Kenny pick it. Yeah, yeah Kenny pick it. Mitch Trubisky move up front. I think he's out of chances. Yeah. Yeah Are they gonna give up the compensation and then is There another like who else outside of Atlanta in Pittsburgh? Do you think would be main players for Justin Fields?
Starting point is 00:58:28 Maybe Denver? No. No? No? No. Russ is gone, right? What are they going to do with Russ? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:34 I think they move on from Russ. I mean, Champagne just read between the lines. Right. Yeah. I mean, I have to read between the lines. I think it's just saying. Champagne's lines are like he holds up three fingers and a straight line and then he takes the first two down
Starting point is 00:58:46 Those lines he's gone. Well, he had that good line about he saw the meme out there Yeah, the eight quarter by Jersey, you know, we gotta make sure we don't get the next one like he talked about the next one Yeah, you know, you're already talking about the next quarterback. Yeah, well, you still got a quarterback So you don't think that the Broncos are in the Justin Fields market. I don't. So it's a limited amount of teams. Again, what other teams? We're brainstorming here. Okay. We're trying to help your franchise at Day Cat, right? Yeah. What other teams could we think of that can see? Patriots, although they have a top three pick. Yeah. Washington. Washington. I'm not going to do that. That would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:26 That would be very interesting. Is that a real thing or is that just you trying to stir the pot a little bit? I'm just saying, what are you doing? We're just doing a thought exercise here. Yeah, we're trying to help out the Bears to see what other teams could conceivably step up for justices. And so by the way, what if the Steelers aren't going to trade that? And what if the Falcons aren't going to? Then what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:59:46 We're fucked. Well, now you got to wait for for agency to see some of the other movements. So that to me, like we go into every off season, and there's always a big question. And I I can't think going into this off season, what's any more interesting than the Bears at one, we assume they will take Kayla Williams if everything goes well and then you would assume they move on from Justin Fields and where he goes. Yeah. So it's two quarterbacks. Two teams will we'll see how it shakes out. The Las Vegas Raiders would they be in the
Starting point is 01:00:15 market? Oh, interesting. It is interesting. Uh anything's possible. I don't know. I don don't know I haven't heard them but that's my point whether it's the Raiders or some other team like what about the Seahawks they keep being non-committal on Justin Fia on Geno Smith I don't think they're a team but there's gonna be a team there are with most of these situations that all of a sudden just pops in that you weren't expecting that team to be in play for this player. And maybe it's the Raiders. I'm trying to think like who... So I guess it's not the Cardinals, right? Because the Cardinals put out that really strange tweet
Starting point is 01:00:57 the other day that just said like, here's our franchise quarterback. It seems like that you don't just fire that tweet off if you have a franchise quarterback, right? You have to that's them letting him know like, Hey, maybe they just tried to do a trade. It didn't work out. But we're committed to you now. Would you just get what you just say? phone? Just little text popping in just making sure that Justin feels it in trade while doing this conversation. Okay, read the text. Who tells who texted you. NFC or AFC? Neither right now. It's
Starting point is 01:01:27 Oh, yeah. Interesting. Goodell. Warmer. Oh, there we go. Troy Vincent. Oh, so but the Cardinals are firmly in on was there any talk at all about Kyler Mercer's future with that organization? I think it was them like just announcing to the world because there have been so much speculation about them moving on
Starting point is 01:01:47 from Kyler, them getting a top pick, them being in play for Caleb Williams, even though they turned out to be a little bit better than that and played themselves out of the number one pick. People wondering about Kyler's future. There are all these discussions, all this conversation. And I think it was just them planting a flag and saying, this is our franchise. We got our franchise. I thought it was like if a husband or a boyfriend comes home and they just have flowers for no reason the wife's like
Starting point is 01:02:10 wait what did you do wrong like that tweet just came out of nowhere yeah was probably like huh right there was no need yeah right now it's anything exactly okay yeah so maybe maybe they were meeting with the bears privately about Justin Fields. And before anybody could report that, while other reporters were distracted with Punxsutawney Phil, they figured we should just plant our flag and say, here's our franchise quarterback. You know what you should do, the last hill for you to climb as a reporter, you should just, you should announce the election this year.
Starting point is 01:02:41 You know what? Yeah. RFK Jr.? If Steve Kornacki could come into our world, then why can't we go into his world? Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, the numbers freak on on Sunday Night Football. Yeah, looks like Roan. I think Tuesday night in November, I think you have to. That's the only way Stephen Che will find out who's the next president. You might have to text him personally, because he doesn't get any news. It's not chef. They're doing that.
Starting point is 01:03:05 That's a fact. We we got to report precincts before anybody else does. He didn't find out about Ukraine and Russia for like three months. He's like, ooh, chef. There hasn't talked about it. Yeah. So who's the ghost of Kiev? I haven't heard.
Starting point is 01:03:18 I don't my notifications didn't send anything. Um, how pumped were you when you broke the Aaron Rodgers news live on air? Was that was that a highlight of the last year because you got the reactions I think it was me the funny thing was the reactions it became this permanent like little picture that's taken like all these yeah you know face so facial reactions and I I got in the text on the compensation on air so when I said that it included the jets one that's when everybody won one that's I'm like hold on hold on because I didn't have time to process it the way I should have right like I didn't deliver it the right way right. I should have said okay
Starting point is 01:03:51 Here's the deal the jets are getting Rogers and this but they're giving up that but it's happening in live TV That's not TV for you. So as soon as I said the jets one that's when you know, you know, Mina Kimes, you know, you would have thought that, you know. Yeah, it's crazy. So so what's up with Rogers? Is he is he going to be fully healthy? I mean, the whole Achilles thing, like him saying he was gonna be back, I actually think he did the Jets a disservice, because they never thought about something else. Because they're like, Well, maybe he'll be back strung him along a little bit and had Zach Wilson play the rest of the year Well, the plan was to have Zach Wilson in bubble wrap right not have to play at all and let him
Starting point is 01:04:32 Grow and learn and if you remember remember remember remember back to hard knocks how is Zach Wilson? reacted around Aaron Rodgers, right he was Soaking up everything that he was saying. It's unfortunate for him that he got thrown into the fire again because that was not the plan. So it would have been great if they had a quarterback like a gardener Minshew that they could have turned to when Rodgers were not they didn't plan for that. Right. And I remember being at that game that night and I had this conversation where did I see him? Christopher Johnson, the Jets owner.
Starting point is 01:05:07 We do the pregame show for Mother Night Football, we're on the field, Aaron Rodgers runs out with the flag. It was, oof, lot of adrenaline, a lot of emotion. Couldn't wait to see what was gonna happen. Go back into the truck and Rodgers goes down. And you knew it was not your run-of-the-mill injury. So I'm like, okay, I was supposed to go home at the end of the first quarter
Starting point is 01:05:29 Get out of there and I Stayed behind I went outside the Jets locker remember seeing Christopher Johnson walking out. I'm like, what's the deal? It's he goes, I don't know. I don't know Where did I see him recently had to be where would I have seen him? He I said you knew when you passed me, right? He said, oh, where would I have seen him? I said, you knew when you passed me, right? He said, oh yeah, I was with Aaron the entire time. You know, and everybody was just so devastated by that night and the circumstances surrounding it.
Starting point is 01:05:57 And the team never recovered from it. I remember I stayed around to do the post game show and Scott Van Pelt show. And I remember Jet fans, like they they were happy they won the game. And I'm like, why are you happy? Yeah, it's it's it's it's over. Yeah, it just it's it doesn't matter that they won. I don't think people grasp the magnitude of it immediately.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Yeah. How much they built around Aaron Rodgers and how he was the least. And I thought maybe they were in denial that maybe okay It wasn't gonna be a rupture to killies which it was So yeah, it was a night that changed the season for the Jetson the Jets luck Yeah And then with the back and forth that they had with Wilson Tim Boyle You remember they put in Tim Boyle for a spark this year Travis Simeon Trevor Simeon who was was it was it solid making all those decisions or was that coming from upstairs?
Starting point is 01:06:46 Oh, I don't think no that's coming from upstairs. I mean, he's the coach of the team I think he probably Decides on the quarterback you'd have to think that now. I don't think anybody's telling him who to play I think he's doing what's best for the team Again, I come back to the fact that it's unfortunate that they had to put Zach out there Yeah, because I don't think that was the plan. And I still think that guy's got talent, but with that position, it's gotta be harnessed and harvested the right way
Starting point is 01:07:11 where these guys wind up crashing and burning before they have a chance to become quarterbacks. And that's what happened to him this year. And now he's gonna get traded somewhere else or signed on somewhere else. And we'll see if he could develop into the kind of guy that they thought he was when they drafted him. Was it too overall?
Starting point is 01:07:28 So based off the Aaron Rodgers thing, we're big grass guys. We support grass. Is the league going to actually- Smoking it or playing on it? Smoking it and playing on it. Is the league hearing the players when they say, hey, we don't want to play on this turf anymore? Is there anything that's going to happen that they're maybe taking steps to be like, yeah, we should get back to playing on grass more often than not? That has been out there for how long?
Starting point is 01:07:54 Players have always wanted to play on grass. Right. But it feels like it's gaining a little bit more traction with the jets injuries, with some of the concussions. MetLife Stadium, and they won't like it, but I mean, there have been some bad, bad injuries on that field. Yes. There just have been. If that feel makes me nervous.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Yeah. So what, but, but it does feel like a little bit more momentum is the league just like, we don't care. We're playing on what we play on the World Cup, right? And yeah, they're, they're putting in grass for that. So it can be done. Right. So that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Like, is the league at least hearing this or is it? No, we don't care. Because it is always that that weird thing where the league will talk about player safety, but then when it comes to action, it can sometimes be very different. Well, I haven't heard a conversation about going away from fielder fields in general, but to me, it should be pretty simple, that if they're gonna put grass in that stadium for the World Cup game, just leave the grass.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Yeah, leave it there. Just leave it there. And I don't care if it's dying out in the winter, I don't care if they gotta paint it the way they did in Cleveland, paint the grass green. Like, whatever you got, it's to me, preferable to plan that rather than the other stuff that has led to some unfortunate injuries
Starting point is 01:09:07 Yeah, the Bengals and I think the the Vikings maybe they had the split turf field and they got away from that So there's no more the split turf anymore. So there's some some seams are true Yeah, we know everything about the really either we get a conclusion to sodgate in the Super Bowl two years ago They replaced the turf sent a like like the week or two before, sort of like the 49ers practice. Yeah, the sod father at it again. Yeah, two sod controversies. Cost the Eagles a Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:09:33 Both involved in the Chiefs, interesting. Interesting. How scripted was the NFL this year, for Taylor Swift to be at the Super Bowl and to be hugging and smooching Rubin Travis Kels' belly afterwards. It was a hell of a script. I mean, I read it in the pre-season.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Yeah. And I couldn't believe the twists, I read it in the preseason. Yeah. And I couldn't believe the twists and turns that it was going to take. Yeah. You knew, though. You knew the second they got together. It's like, OK, Chief Super Bowl. This is where it's going.
Starting point is 01:09:52 That's easy. Are the Chiefs bad for football? A good question. Thank you. Were the Patriots bad for football? Some may say. They're bad for every other team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:02 That's the next conversation. Once a team establishes a dynasty, we then naturally have to go with are they bad for football? To me, when you get to watch a guy like Patrick Mahomes, who's in the prime of his career, entering the prime of his career, I'm not even be there yet. That's great. Yeah, you get one of these all time players. I don't know when that's ever bad. Now it's bad for the rest of the league. Like I would not want to be a coach in the AFC West. Yeah. Like Jim Harbaugh, Sean Payton, they took those jobs.
Starting point is 01:10:31 You take those jobs at your own peril. Yeah. Because you gotta face that guy for the next dozen years. Like that's brutal. That is good luck unseating him. And all the quarterbacks in the AFC, I mean, there was an opportunity this year for somebody to take this step forward.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Like, can you imagine, can you imagine betting the Ravens at the beginning of the season to win the Super Bowl? Fuck you. And then not hedging that. Fuck you, no, fuck you. We Patrick for Homes. Like the best quarterback maybe he's ever played.
Starting point is 01:11:00 You know way too much, Shepter. God damn it. God damn it. It would never be made there was an opportunity for a large action in the Ravens literally cash in on well how sure you imagine six imagine chapter if if somebody did that also with the bills at the same time listen I bet on the Chiefs in the Super Bowl and I made it all right yeah could you imagine betting on Brock Purdy against Patrick Mulholland?
Starting point is 01:11:26 Can you imagine doing it? Can you imagine back to back years doing the Eagles one year and then the Reagans the next? Yeah. Can you imagine? I bet the Chiefs in the Super Bowl unlike some people in this team. Wow! We can move on. Listen, this is...
Starting point is 01:11:39 Can you imagine doing the Eagles? We're not supposed to talk about gambling, the NFL is above gambling. We should move on from this line of questioning. Can you imagine doing the Eagles? Why'd you do that? Not hedging and then not hedging again the next year. Talk about gambling the NFL is above gambling Man Not hedging and then not hedging again the next year I can't imagine at all. I can't imagine it all. Can we talk about the bills though? Can we talk about Josh? Josh Allen in the bills? I feel like they're good enough They should be good enough to to compete and win a Super Bowl for whatever reason just keeps not happening to them
Starting point is 01:12:03 I think that reason has a lot to do with Patrick Mahomes, obviously. How much was there any conversation in Buffalo after the season was over about making any drastic changes at all? Not that I'm aware of. I mean, to me, they're entering the offseason. They're close. They're close. And again, they had the chance this year, you got the chiefs in Buffalo. That's what makes it so hard for them. That
Starting point is 01:12:29 the opportunity was right there for them. It was right for them for all these teams like Joe borrows out. You know, the Chiefs were down for a little while. The bills were at home. And none of these teams took advantage of it much to your yeah, yeah, it's at home. You know, it's true. It's like, I mean, Patrick Holmes, like you're not gonna get that many chances Correct the window was there especially going into the season when we talked about Aaron Rodgers and Justin Herbert and in Joe
Starting point is 01:12:53 Burrow and all these guys and it's like you get three of those guys have massive injuries and It's still Patrick. I think if you're the bills Honestly, you just got to keep knocking on the door and hope that one of those years Like just ask all the people that played against Michael Jordan what it was like every year that they didn't get to win The NBA championship whether it was who played in the east that know Patrick yeah, the next yeah, yeah comes right to mind Yeah, no, I mean it's it's the we've we've said it Patrick Mahomes the the part where he's become the new Patriots is that he is going to steal Super Bowls from some all-time quarterbacks that their Phillip Rivers are like,
Starting point is 01:13:32 even thinking paint manning probably would have had more than just two. And all these guys who are great, great quarterbacks and their resume just isn't the same because they had Tom Brady in their air. He's going to change legacies. Yeah. Other quarterbacks and other franchises because he's going to be that good
Starting point is 01:13:49 and win that many Super Bowls he already has. Yeah. And it's not like he's going away. Right. He's just going to keep doing that kind of thing. He's so good. He's stealing joy from all these other cities, too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Imagine how much better life in Buffalo would be right now if Patrick Mahomes was not in the next season. Imagine how much better life would be in Baltimore right now. Patrick Mahomes was not. Imagine how much better life would be in Baltimore and Chicago right now. Yeah, well, we don't have to do that. We've already put that to bed. So here's another team that's got the joy stolen from them. The San Francisco 49ers. Are they at a crossroads or is it because they have been so good for this five year stretch where you know to to soup going to two Super Bowls another
Starting point is 01:14:27 NFC championship or two another two NFC championship games They've been right on the cusp. What is it like is it? I don't think it's Brock Purdy But is there a question is it you know, it's amazing They have their garden Spencer Burford in the overtime and he goes the wrong way Yeah, block goes the wrong way. Yeah. The block goes the wrong way. And on that play.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And he should have pulled the time out and he also had Kittle not on the field. On that play where Spencer Burford went the wrong way, Brandon Ayuk was the primary option. And the guy covering Brandon Ayuk fell. He fell. Brandon Ayuk is wide open for a touchdown. Joann Jennings is open for a touchdown.
Starting point is 01:15:03 Brock Purdy doesn't have the time because the other lineman came in. And that's how close, that's the margin. Like if he just goes to- Jake Moody, extra point. That's, and I flew out here to Indy with this guy. I was saying to some of your coworkers here, I sat next to this guy named Simon who works for,
Starting point is 01:15:24 about my drawing a blank on the name of the company, Trac. I sat next to this guy named Simon who works for My major in blanking Drawing a blank on the name of the company track. What's the company that tracks the golf balls track? Trackman track trackman track man golf zone. No, it's not golf. It's track man golf zones better though trackman This guy works for trackman. Mm-hmm. He tracks NFL kicks We were talking about that and he went into the there are certain teams that employ him and He scouts kicks and what they're doing and horrible existence Well, hold on watching kicks over and over he tried out for the Dallas Cowboys a couple of years ago He kicked in college small college Simon. I forget his last name
Starting point is 01:16:02 Anyway, he calls up the dad on Jake Moody and he goes through all his extra points and he's like, ideally you wanna be above 10 feet on all your extra points. And he showed a few of them where he was like, nine, seven. Most of them were above 12 feet. And these teams hire this guy as a consultant to say to the kicker,
Starting point is 01:16:22 hey, you need a little bit more trajectory on your extra point, which you ordinarily would think, well, what's the value in that? Right. Right. Well, the value in it may have been a world title. Right. Right. Right. So, this is the best sales pitch I gave every gift to Simon, who I met at my plane flying out here from Track Man. But he had all the dad on Jake Moon. I said to the 49ers, are they one of the teams you worked for, he said, no. Oh, brutal. He was a little shaky all season.
Starting point is 01:16:48 Yeah, he was. But you know, people forget, he did make two over 50. He did. He hits a big kicks in college for Michigan. He was a great kicker and they took him high and he wasn't consistent this year, but he was great in the Super Bowl other than the extra. He set the record.
Starting point is 01:17:03 He held the all-time record for longest field goal for about like 10 minutes. Yeah. I also noticed you haven't apologized for Michigan cheating. Yeah, no, I have not and I will not. Oh, okay. I respect that. Are you a little upset that Jim Harbaugh is gone because it does feel like that was an incredible run that he's been on beating beating Ohio State three years in a row, national title. Maybe you're going back to the pack. Well, let me say this, I'm a big Charoamore fan. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:30 I love that guy. I think he's gonna be great. And I don't view it like that. Like to me, I look at like next man up, Charoamore deserves this, he's worked for this. The program, I think Jim has left in a spot where I think, you know, you get a ton of sanctions. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I think that they'll be still very strong.
Starting point is 01:17:49 And Jim wanted to go to the NFL. He wanted to go to the NFL. He was going to go at some point. Yeah, he went at the perfect time. And there are more and more college coaches that seem to want to go to the NFL. Like he was going. I had to start arguing with my friends.
Starting point is 01:18:02 I'm like, they're like, he's going to stay. And in fact, I remember that day. It's very funny. I'm on a group text chain with my college buddies and one of my college buddies texts me that his son just saw something that Jim Harbaugh is debating a new extension from Michigan. And I was waiting at that moment for the call that it was done with the chargers and my heart's like pounding as I'm waiting for this call and I like stop and like whoa whoa
Starting point is 01:18:33 maybe he could stop just stop okay he's not going back I know let let just and I said stay tuned and within another hour the deal got done with the chargers. He was in LA. He wasn't going back to Ann Arbor and Obviously the son know one of my college roommates. I would hope that they would turn to me more than they would turn to him from Did you cry when Michigan beat Ohio State when Charon more cried? No, that was Penn State That was the first game of his suspension. Yeah, she's crying when you're like they did it, they did it for coach. No, no, no, no. Yeah, that you know, listen, I'm good with all that. All the emotion. I don't love the F word on national TV. Oh, you don't like national TV. Wait,
Starting point is 01:19:21 what about okay, talk about crying, honestly, do any of these teams scouting here in the combine for Indy, do they care that Cale Williams cried? Because I think they might. Hold on. Let's say there are 31 teams that do care. I know. Does it matter?
Starting point is 01:19:38 Does it matter? No, no, I know. I know. I know. But do you think that that actually matters at all in terms of NFL teams? No. OK. I think it does. I think it a little bit. By the way, if he's your court, do you think that that actually matters at all in terms of like NFL teams? No. Okay. I think you I think it a little By the way, if he's your quarter, you care. No, I don't care. I'm like that's I'll start crying whenever he wants me to I'll cry on command. I'm just saying I still think there's a little bit
Starting point is 01:19:56 There's at least one guy in every room who's like, hey, he cried. Yeah, what's up with that? Okay? You know, he's in touch with his feelings. Yeah, And he's going to be the bear's quarterback in all probability. I agree. I love that he cried. And then every other team, every other team will be like, that guy cried, he's a loser after they don't get him. Yeah. That's how it works. That's exactly how it becomes a negative if you don't get the guy.
Starting point is 01:20:15 You know, the funny thing is maybe it becomes like one of those things during the draft process that comes out and it's like some team driving the narrative like, yeah, Kayla Williams cry baby. Oh, we're in we're in full Caleb Williams bashing mode because that's all that's left like there's nothing when you get to when you when you get to a point in the combine draft cycle where it's like here's what the number one pick is yeah well it's just gonna all be negative I had Drake man my podcast last week I said to him the next two months get ready for no reason. For your stock to go up one day and your stock to go down the
Starting point is 01:20:46 next. Pick you apart. And it sucks. It'll come out. Drake may, you know, can't throw on the run or with that, whatever it is. The S2 cognition test. Yeah. There you go. I mean, are those guys still in business? They got to be right. You know, the thing is, is that there are a lot of teams that would turn to that company and they would lean on that information. It would kind of supplement all the other work. That's what it would do, but there was teams that I think put some credence into it.
Starting point is 01:21:21 Interesting. And, ooh. Yeah. Could it ever have been more wrong on one guy ever? Counterpoint, Bryce Young ordered the scallops when we went to dinner with the owner of the Panthers, with Tepper. So that's why Tepper liked him.
Starting point is 01:21:35 So they kind of outweighs it. Bryce Young tested off the charts. Off the charts. Off the charts. And, yeah, I mean, that's hard if you're the Panthers, and you made that trade. And, yeah. Mm-'s, that's hard. If you're the Panthers and you made that trade and, Yeah, it's bad. And it makes you, I like to tease the owner.
Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, his wife was a big CJ Stroud person. Oh, is she really? She liked, she liked CJ Stroud. Okay. She's a big Ernest and Julio Gallo fan too. So I got, I got a couple more questions because Steve and Jay has some questions too. Real quick, you mentioned your podcast,
Starting point is 01:22:08 Know It From Adam? No, that would change the name a long time ago. Yeah, that was the worst podcast name of all time. Actually, it's something you and Jay have in common. Jay once had a show called Surf and Turf. Wait, hold on, is it still called that? He had a show called Surf and Turf that was a football podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Yeah? Surf and Turf. Surf and Turf for a podcast? For a football podcast. Why was Surf and turf. Surf and turf for a podcast? For a football podcast. Why was he called surf and turf? There's no reason. Because he, talking to Mike. We changed it to the Adam Schefter podcast.
Starting point is 01:22:32 OK, that makes more sense. Surf and turf was the name of the podcast. Plain and simple. Who's on the Adam Schefter podcast? You guys, I need to get you guys on there. Yeah, well, no, I'm a know it from Adam Guy. That's why we were on that show. That show rocked. Yeah, that, no, I'm I'm a know it for Adam guy That show that show rocked
Starting point is 01:22:45 Yeah, that's your rocker. I mean my other my other question is do you Steven brought this up on the way down? Do you I think we've talked about this But do you miss driving at all because you don't you're not allowed to drive drive? I drive I thought ESPN ban you from driving It took away your license. No, I drive You know, you know who would like to ban me from driving my wife and my daughter because I'll be in the car I'll get a text and you want to see see arguments you want to see somebody get pissed off Yeah, would you stop that you do have a driver for the most part because of the news no, I know When I would be going to Bristol, okay
Starting point is 01:23:19 I'd have the driver to go to Bristol, but I don't go to Bristol all that much during the season. It's Sunday morning. So no, I drive. Okay, I drive myself everywhere. Although at certain times of the year, it's probably best off to have somebody drive you and I look forward to my daughter. Yeah, she does getting her license. She could be your driver. Yeah. Yeah. I got one thing about the commanders real quick. Then we'll let Che ask some questions. First of all, I would like for you to get on board with the rebrand of that that coaches graphic that you always like to put out Reheem Mars, right? Yeah. Yeah. So what we need to do with that? We need to include Reheem Morris on it. We need to include Dan Quinn on it and rebrand it as look at all these ex-falkans head Co or falcons coaches that are now head coaches somewhere else in the league that way it's not the 2013 Redskins anymore. Can we
Starting point is 01:24:07 do that? Done. It's the Falcons coaching staff that's not being spread out. That graphic of all those it's by now it's like it's almost cliched right? Yes. Did you know that? It feels personal. You know well you know it's like Matthew Stafford and we know the coaches by now. We know, we've heard it time and time again. Just when that comes across your desk, make sure that those are Falcons' coaches that are now elsewhere in the league,
Starting point is 01:24:32 not Redskins' coaches. So Kyle Shanahan, Dan Quinn, he marched back in Atlanta. Yeah, LaFleur. Mike McDaniel, yeah, you're right. Okay, we'll rebrand it for the Falcons. Yeah, thank you, I appreciate that. And then my other question,
Starting point is 01:24:44 what are the commanders gonna do at number two? They go quarterback. The question is they do Jaden Daniels or Drake May. New people don't know what they're thinking yet. I need a little bit of time before I give you that answer. Okay. I don't mean to ride the fence on you, but these guys haven't had their pro days yet.
Starting point is 01:25:04 They haven't had their 30 visits yet. They haven't taken the S I put a lot of stock in that one. I think the Texans leaked the s2 thing. The Panthers wouldn't draft. Yeah, you know the interesting thing is What if the Houston Texans had the number one overall pick? Mm-hmm. What would they have done? They would get a shit load of picks for it. No, they would have gotten CJ Stroud. I don't know. Oh, you mean last year? Last year. They had the number one pick and they had their choice. Yeah, it worked out. The Bryce Young and CJ Stroud. The Wittig That Last Game with Davis Mills going to two. More self-reason. Everybody was all over Lovie Smith. I know. Right?
Starting point is 01:25:45 And it was the greatest thing that he ever could have done for the Texans organization. He set them up. They won the game, they fell back in the draft, and they wound up getting CJA. That's what you never know. True. All right. So, rowback question, rhobcck.com promo code TAKE. 20% off your first purchase.
Starting point is 01:26:01 QZS, Polo, Sody's, Jogger, Shorts. Go to rowback.com right now. Use promo code TAKE. You get 20% off your first purchase, QZS Polos, Hoodies, Joggers, Shorts. Go to robac.com right now, use promo code TAKY at 20% off. Robac question is gonna be given to Steven Che. So Steven Che is a shifter. I think he's your number one fan. I think he's your number one fan. Che, would you like to ask some questions? Absolutely, yes.
Starting point is 01:26:22 So it's very cool to get all these like nuggets of things that you have more Intel about the NFL than probably any living person, especially like behind the scenes stuff. So a question. You're just sucking them off. I'm freezing. Go. Jake Blazer. So what is maybe a piece of news that never came to light that would be the ultimate butterfly effect moment for right now? Desbrion tape.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Butterfly effect moment. Desbrion tape. Like if this one small thing had happened like that, you know, through Brandon and Iuk, the NFL landscape would be totally different right now. Well, if the Texans had, that's a perfect example, right? If the Texans had lost that game and got the number one pick. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:10 And that drift, if that had happened, I think they might have taken Bryce Young. Yeah. And I don't know if they would have traded the pick, which means Chicago wouldn't have Caleb Williams, which means they wouldn't be shopping Justin Fields this year. So, that's a big one. There are a whole host of them. I got more for you. Here's a great one that pertains to the Super Bowl this year that we talked about a little
Starting point is 01:27:35 bit on Sunday Countdown, but I didn't deliver it the right way. Seems like a lot of that's going around with you, Schefter. Seems like old Schefter would have delivered the right way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The draft where the 49ers in 2017 had the second overall pick initially. Patrick Mahomes was in that draft. Okay. This is the centerpiece over. They didn't do any work on him. Yeah. They didn't do any work on him because they thought the following off season, Kirk Cousins
Starting point is 01:28:04 was leaving Washington. Hold on, hold on, this gets better and better. So Kurt Cousins is leaving Washington. They thought that he would want to be there. They would want him there. And it's a layup. So there's no reason to do any real work on the quarterbacks in the 2017 draft. So why do you need to work on Patrick Mahomes with Deshaun Watson when you know you're going to get Kirk Cousins? Well what happens is New England calls up San Francisco, that Halloween, it's like hey we got to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo, just give us a two. Really? Well they do that. So that blows up the Kirk Cousins plan but back to that draft in 2017, the only quarterback that they did extensive work on,
Starting point is 01:28:47 that they wound up trading up for, in the third round, they moved up to take CJ Bethard. Mm. And when CJ Bethard left after four years and signed with Jacksonville, the 49ers got a compensatory seventh round draft pick. Oh! And with that compensatory seventh round draft pick
Starting point is 01:29:09 that they got from the draft in which they bypassed Patrick Holmes, they took Brock Purdy. That's such a beautiful story. That's such a beautiful story. That is a great story. That's a great answer. Damn.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Another question I have, just because you're in such the, you have to be on your Ps and Qs, because you're in such the you have to be on your peas and queues you because you word all your own tweets right yeah easy wow how do you feel about that super impressive I also every word that comes out of my mouth I say by the way speaking of which yeah what would happen with the chiefs first commanders in the Super Bowl? Well, yeah, I thought for a second, I'd have to give you fake news over there. That was a that's you're losing a step.
Starting point is 01:29:50 Yeah, well, you know what? I knew that I'd be making my annual appearance here. I want to get a nice hope. So I figured, you know what? It would it would overshadow the news of him signing his contract. I was giving P.F.T. cover that week to have people mock me to deflect the attention that he should have gotten for his new contract being signed Super Bowl. I appreciate that, Adam. For a
Starting point is 01:30:17 second, I did think for that the commanders were in the Super Bowl for like half a second. And maybe realize that there's a big market out there if somebody just wants to create like an alternate reality NFL like magazine and have photoshopped of like the commanders in the Super Bowl or like whatever shitty team you root for people would read that yeah you know what happened that night I was trying to help you out and I also happened to be dealing at that time with my daughter and you know trying to get her situated
Starting point is 01:30:44 for Super Bowl week and the stuff she was doing for Nickelodeon and there's a lot going on. You just say Vegas. All right, we're taking Stephen Chase question time. Go ahead. Sorry. But we had to get you on that. You're probably the guy that most people have
Starting point is 01:30:58 Twitter notifications for. So I want to peel back the end in a little bit. Who does Shifty have? Oh! Who do you have notifications on for a question. I got woj. Yeah, I got field Yates. I get Jeff.
Starting point is 01:31:10 I'm very supportive of my team. Yeah. So wait, did you take off the notifications? Diana Racini, when she left ESPN? We love Diana. Do you didn't answer the question? We love Diana. OK.
Starting point is 01:31:23 Yeah. All right. That's I like that. That's chef.'s a way you're out of the family now. We had a chain going, you know, it's actually pretty funny. We had a chain going a text chain, you know, with certain people at ESPN, Jeff Darlington, Field Yates, myself, a couple of our bosses, producers. Diana was brought into that chain. Last Super Bowl and she got made. She was the first woman. Yeah, to join the chain. She broke the chain gang. And then when she left, we had
Starting point is 01:31:54 to start a new channel. That's like right in and out. Yeah, turn it back on you real fast. Alright, so who else on notifications? That's about it. Yeah. Okay. Another question. Check. Good question. I'll end on this one is that you talked about, I think it was last Super Bowl, how you went out with Diana and Daniel Lowsky and had a bunch of margaritas and had like a fun day. I want to know what is a walk me through a very perfect fun, chef-y Saturday. Because all we see is, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:27 this is the stalker stuff. Very fun. And please give us addresses too. Of where you'll be. Chef-y, that's for fun. What a normal chef-y Saturday looks like. Wow, like where do I even go with that? So you wake up, what do you eat for breakfast?
Starting point is 01:32:44 I've had the same breakfast every day since COVID began. What was it? What is it? Did you lose your taste buds or something? Yeah. You know what? I used to go out to this smoothie shop, which is out of business, and then I would go to Starbucks and get the same kind of—and when you couldn't leave your house for a year,
Starting point is 01:33:01 I wound up bringing yogurt, blueberries blueberries and some granola have it every single day. That's a good breakfast. That's a good breakfast. Alright so you start with that and then a good Saturday. Yeah. You know a lot of it is tied into your family being happy making sure that they're taken care of because if they happy, then everybody's happy. They're not happy. Right, big hat? Yep. Nobody's happy. That's a fact. So we start there. But if it's going to be good for me selfishly, then it's probably going to be a productive day of work where you're working on some things that you feel pretty good about. You know that they'll be there for you in the morning or whatever it is on a Sunday show. And also I would say,
Starting point is 01:33:47 oh, Coach Quinn. Coach Quinn here. Oh, Coach Quinn, congratulations. Yeah, left hand up. Yeah. And then I would also say some kind of fantasy success, like my NBA fantasy team this year stinks, but in other years, it's been good.
Starting point is 01:34:02 And I love when I'm rolling there. And honestly playing DraftK good. And I love when I'm rolling there. And honestly, playing Draft Kings. Yeah, yeah. Love that. Great plug. All right, well, Chefty, thank you as always. Yeah, the head coach of the commander's watching. I get boos out, right?
Starting point is 01:34:15 And it is the draft, by the way, of Big Cat, PFT, and Hank. Like, you guys control this draft. We do. We do. We control the this we do control the draft control yeah yeah two three that's right put chef D this is one of our favorite yearly traditions so thank you as always you're the best and thank you for the Christmas gift yes I appreciate it blanket was awesome I thought the S stood for shifter that you sent me a blanket with your initial I didn't know I was like wait a second just put a we just put a Schefter blank in about where?
Starting point is 01:34:46 No, we're very happy to be on the Schefter Christmas list. So we'll stay on it. Thank you, you guys. As I say to you again, nobody ever stops me and says, I heard the Adam Schefter podcast. I'm going to enjoy it. But I hear often, often, which is a testament to you guys.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Love you. I'm part of my take. Bring back, know it from now. I know it once a year. People have more than my own podcast. All right, we're going to get Che on the Christmas list. You got it. All right. Yeah, yeah. We'll get it. Love you on part of my take bring back know it for my I know what's here All right, we're gonna get chain on the on the Christmas list you got it. All right. Yeah, we'll get it. Thank you I'm not just made his life Okay, let's wrap up the show we got firefest of the week Hank
Starting point is 01:35:21 Happy you're out of the say St. Ammo's bathroom Yeah, that was a fire fire fire. No, it wasn't Firefres yeah, you guys bullied me no eating the shrimp scampi sauce or whatever Cocktail sauce cocktail sauce Hank Hank got up from dinner. We had a nice boy hot as fuck It was it was me PFT Hank memes Max and Steven Shea. And when we're paying the bill, Hank stood up. He kind of like grabbed my shoulder
Starting point is 01:35:51 and I could feel the emergency in his body, like pulsing through me. And he was like, I gotta go to the bathroom. I'll meet you guys back at the hotel. And I'm pretty sure you were, like we sat and hung out for another 15, 20 minutes. And I'm pretty sure you were still in the sat and hung out for another 15, 20 minutes, and I'm pretty sure you were still in the bathroom. He was, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:07 I didn't saw, I- Cause we got a text like 30 minutes later being like, I'm still in the bathroom. No, I left my phone at the hotel cause I didn't bring a charger and PFT pulled a veteran move that, I don't know if we want to, you know, reveal it on the podcast. Oh yeah, she don't think you should.
Starting point is 01:36:21 No, I think we should. I want to spread this to the people because- This was good, cause we were in the lobby, we were both're both in the front desk is there a place to buy chargers or I asked I was like is there a place to buy a charger on here She's like not really you got to go you know go to a gas station down the street. It was cold and have a jacket I was like fuck pf2 is behind me I Go up to the the front desk and if they're cool with you You can make this move move work And so I went up as like cool as it could.
Starting point is 01:36:45 And I was like, I know you guys don't have any charges here. You don't have any in the lost and found that somebody just recently left behind, right? And the guy looked at me like this guy knows because hotels have, that's the number one thing that gets left behind as a phone charger. Usually I'd say it works for me like 50% of the time, depending on what your rapport is like
Starting point is 01:37:03 with the person at the front desk. And the guy's like, wait right here. I'll be back. And then he came back with the charger for Hank. Hank's jaw was on the floor. I'm surprised that you didn't know about this move already. No, it was impressive. I'm excited to use it again.
Starting point is 01:37:14 And I also told Hank that I use that move all the time for toothbrushes. And for a second he was like, what the fuck? But my phone was dead. We were going to dinner soon, so I just left my phone because I had to give the charger back to PFC after dinner. So I just left my phone charging during dinner. So when I went to the bathroom, I didn't have my phone. That's a nightmare. What'd you do?
Starting point is 01:37:33 There was a stall. There was the stall was full. I was in emergency. I was like, I don't have much time here. So there was one, one stall bathroom in San almost, which I thought was crazy. Or like in this one section, I had to go to another section. There was two stalls. Those were both occupied.
Starting point is 01:37:48 It was getting, I was considering having to sprint back to the hotel, didn't wait it out, went to the bathroom. But this whole process was like 20 minutes. And we had, we had, we'd already paid the bill and stuff. You guys were going to party. So I was like, they're probably back at the hotel. I didn't have my phone. So I was like, I'll just walk back to the hotel and then I texted you guys you guys we're still here okay
Starting point is 01:38:09 that's fun that's a funny move yeah but yeah how's your butthole doing? it's good I blame the shrimp sauce shrimp scampi so wait is that your firefest? my firefest was it is combined barcel conman related but it's also the it's pFT said this so I'm not going to take credit for it but it's the start of the it was it'll be the start of my documentary. Oh there's some bad film out there three cone drill. The athlete's in you though somewhere. It is deep. Real deep. Real deep. Where is it. Big Cat's commentary was accurate but also very mean he said Hank looks like someone who's going to maybe do this fast but he's going Real deep. Real deep. Knuckles, big cat's commentary was accurate but also very mean. He said Hank looks like someone who's going to maybe do this fast but he's going to look
Starting point is 01:38:50 really bad doing it. And then I took one step and you go, yep. What? I mean, I at least said that there was a chance it was going to be fast. It was fast. It was one of the faster times. For any of us that were bloggers, were podcasters, we're not, we don't train in like fast twitch agility drills. The three cone drill is impossible to look cool doing.
Starting point is 01:39:11 It's- No, Max looked cool. He looked like a sumo wrestler. He was like straight, Max's whole like vibe when he's doing athletic stuff is like, if you just had a baby learn how to play these sports overnight and it's just like, there's something about him I'll just watch. Well he how to play these sports overnight. And it's just like there's something about him. I'll just what we run.
Starting point is 01:39:27 He's like, yeah, right. And he's like, bodies upright. He's got the little he's got the little man bun. It's just Max looks good. Running on the balls of your feet is what you're supposed to do. Yeah, I know. It's just very funny watching something like that. Did you have a good three cone drill?
Starting point is 01:39:41 That was what was in the middle of the pack. That was what looked awesome. Yeah, but I did see Hank's three cone drill. He was what was so far. I was in the middle of the pack. That was what looked awesome. Yeah, but I did see Hank's three cone drill. He looked bad. You should tie your shoes next time. Yeah, no. Yeah, no, it was bad. I'm not, no one was wrong.
Starting point is 01:39:53 You know, me and my coach on Instagram, I got cooked. And rightfully so, again, started the documentary. Like, that's the tape that I'll, you know, hang up on my wall and watch it every day. Because the training starts. Yeah, you're going to hang up a tape of a digital up on my wall and watch it every day. Because the training starts. Yeah, you're gonna hang up a tape of a digital video on your wall? Yeah, a GIF, I'm gonna print out a GIF frame by frame. Nice, just in the comments.
Starting point is 01:40:14 A flip book, she made a flip book. All right, PFT, your firefest. My firefest of the week is I tried to save the environment and I ended up fucking myself. Yes. So I have an electric car. Lib. Very Lib of me.
Starting point is 01:40:29 But it's great, the city. I never have to stop for gas. I cut down on my dip a lot like Blake Bortles. But I like my car. However, I took it for the first road trip this week. I drove to Indy. And upon leaving, it gives you like a calculation of how far you have left in your battery life to get to Indy. So I charged it overnight, got it
Starting point is 01:40:49 up to 100%. I left in the morning, it told me I would have about 15% battery left when I arrived in Indianapolis. And then there's a charging station right here at Lucas Oil. So I was just going to hit that up and then drive back. So as I start my drive, I'd say about 30 minutes in my drive, I look down at the estimated battery remaining calculator that we have. And it says now 12%. I'm like, interesting. And then slowly but surely, every single mile that I drive, that percentage starts to dip, dip, dip, until now I'm down at like 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%. So I text the group, I'm like, hey, developing situation here,
Starting point is 01:41:26 my car might not make it to Indianapolis and I might need to get a ride from somebody else to take me the last leg. So I go on my way and it gets down now to zero. So I'm like, okay, I'm screwed, I gotta find a charging station. Do you have extra apps open? No, I don't think that does it.
Starting point is 01:41:42 It's not like a phone battery, it's your car. It definitely doesn't. Yeah. Give the AC out., so so God's honest truth Hank I like I'm joking about about what you just said, but when it started to get down beneath 5% I turned the volume on my radio down. Yeah, I was like this this might do it I don't need to be blasting Mike Greenberg right now it's just soft a soft green he would work and So I had to find a charging station on
Starting point is 01:42:06 the way, which added about I thought it was going to take about 15 that about 30 minutes to my trip. So what we get to the combine shifters here. And I was like five minutes late getting in I was out of breath because I had to sprint from down the street. Also, I parked at the wrong Hyatt by mistake. And I had to run we've had a lot of problems with the Hyatt's here. Yeah, yeah. So the fact that there are two heights within like two blocks of each
Starting point is 01:42:28 other. Stupid dumbest thing ever. But yeah, I tried to save the environment. Now I'm going full. I'm going Taylor Swift mode. It's like get use as much energy as possible. Get a diesel truck get I'm gonna fly places. I will fly a private jet from Chicago to Indy instead of driving my earth-saving electric car So that's what that's what I get for trying to save the environment for our children and our children's children Fuck those kids. Yeah, cuz I'm gonna be driving diesel now love that any car should be able to go like three hours He's yeah, or four it told me I could get I think it was like estimated
Starting point is 01:43:02 290 miles on this trip ended up like 220, 210 miles, something around that. So I got to maybe just get the El Camino now. Maybe that's my full-time driver. Yeah. Just get a solar. What about when the sun's not out? It's the same problem. That's a worse problem. Same problem. Same problem. Okay, my firefest. I had one originally was the the war on ice cream that everyone is we talked about it on Wednesday, but we've got new people going after ice cream. This was Jesse Waters on his show. And I just I want us to say that like, they're doing this on purpose or try to take ice cream for us from us. So we need to
Starting point is 01:43:43 just fight. But here's what he said Should not be licking ice cream in public is it way hard A grown man, especially the president should not be licking ice cream in public as what the fuck is that? Why are you as a man eating a treat? What does meek male think about this crazy? He probably would well nope not What does Meek Mill think about this? It's crazy. He probably would, well nope, not gonna say. It's more of a snow cone. So that was my original Firefest, but then as we sat down here today,
Starting point is 01:44:11 my new Firefest came and it was a text from Billy Football with two pictures of a green van. Some people might guess what that van is, Vanny Woodhead. Two pictures of a ghost. And he said, do you guys want Vanny in the Chicago parking lot? Now.
Starting point is 01:44:30 And this is all unfolded on the show. It's all unfolded on the show. Like three years ago. Probably three years ago. For people who don't know, I purchased Vanny Woodhead in my name for what was it like, 600 bucks we paid for it. I had the insurance in my name.
Starting point is 01:44:44 We used Vanny Woodhead, Vanny Woodhead broke down. Vanny Woodhead sat in a parking lot for a couple years. And finally I was like, I need to stop paying insurance because it's just a waste of money for a car that we never, for a van that we never drive. So I told Billy, like turn in the plates, let's get it off the road, chop shop. He's like no problem
Starting point is 01:45:05 I've taken care of it and you paid you like it. This is your job for the week Yeah, I'll give you X amount. You have to get it done by this day and now Sitting here February 29th 2024 Billy has Texas being like, oh, yeah about that van that I got rid of I Still have it. do you want it? Yeah, I don't know, this is gonna, I'm probably gonna lose my license because he probably has it like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:30 And I said, I replied to him because I was like, do I technically still own this van? And he replied, technically it doesn't exist. Is that? It's the best Billy football reply of all time. Also in the pictures that he sent over, when I first saw these, the thought that came to my head was, these are pictures that somebody takes when they're selling a car. There's two different angles of it.
Starting point is 01:45:55 It's in a parking lot, in a space all by itself. I think Billy was trying to sell this car, so technically it might exist. I think the car might exist He might not have found a buyer for it and now he's hitting us up and be like hey Do you guys want this in the Chicago parking lot? Yeah, so I mean we're gonna the good news is I think we're going to get it After we thought it was dead. This is like This is like we're living like in a movie when the when the main character dies and they they're like Oh, we actually had a twin brother. Yeah
Starting point is 01:46:28 That's how I feel right now. I'm like wait what I we did the whole episode where he Vanny died But four times we are going to get Vanny to Chicago We have we're in a different financial situation than we were six years ago So I'm gonna probably put some money into this van Pimp it out figure out how to make it technically exist again, and now we'll have Vanney back in our lives. Like this would have been, like this trip to Indy would have been a perfect, let's just hop in Vanney.
Starting point is 01:46:56 So we're, like Vanney's back. So the best way I would think to make the car exist again, you would have to just like register as an auto manufacturer But who owns it? And be like, I built this car Yeah, this is mine Who owns it? That's the part that I gotta figure out
Starting point is 01:47:10 Nobody owns it So when you ask Billy like Who did it for the office? What can we do? Billy says, uh, we could put it on a flatbed to Chicago I can look into some stuff Yeah So Billy's, honestly Billy was supposed to be looking into some stuff on Vanny Woodhead like six years ago
Starting point is 01:47:26 It's just crazy because this van was out of my life so long ago We should call Billy and it just all of a sudden we should call Billy. All right. Yeah, like I don't so I don't I'll call him on When you got rid of your insurance in the plates Yeah, and I'm pretty sure I signed the car over to Billy. That's that's what I'm curious is like, did it just, oh man, he was definitely trying to sell this car. Billy. Hey, you're live on on PMT little podcast. What who owns Vanny Woodhead? Who owns Vanny Woodhead?
Starting point is 01:48:05 Technically it's destroyed. Okay. Legally it's chopped up, but I couldn't, I didn't have the heart to chop it up, so I just been keeping it. Yeah, wait, you didn't have the heart or you didn't have, like you just didn't want to do it? No, I was like, I can't, like, I was, every time, it was an excuse I used't, like, I was, every time,
Starting point is 01:48:25 it was an excuse I used to not follow through with chopping it up. Okay, so who, so, but who, did you tell someone you chopped it up? Yeah, you told us you chopped it up, but who, who, so who owns it? No one? No one, it's technically like scrap.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Okay, it just hasn't been scrapped. All right, so what, all right, I guess we're gonna, I guess we gotta figure out a way to get to Chicagopped all right so what I guess we're gonna I guess we got to figure out a way to get Chicago we're gonna we're gonna but how do how do we become back into ownership there like if it's technically scrapped how do we yeah how do we get how do we like bring it back to life well it's just basically like trash so like you can legally like bring trash to Chicago. Like it's if I hook it up to my truck. No, no, no, but what if we want to drive that part? We understand we're going to get it to Chicago. We're going to actually I'm
Starting point is 01:49:13 actually going to probably put money into this and like pimp it out because it'd be cool to have it. But then how do you make it so it's not dead anymore? Oh, well, then you just gotta get it street legal and then get it by inspecting. It's easy big guy you just have to get it street legal. Okay all right I got nothing out of this conversation but I appreciate it. Wait wait Billy is it like a titleist vehicle? Yeah. Oh what they look into is pass, and they're gonna be like, wasn't his car scrapped? Okay, PFT has a question.
Starting point is 01:49:48 Yeah, Billy, judging from the pictures that you sent over, were you at any time trying to sell this car? No, I couldn't sell it, it's trash. But it's not. I know, I know, but technically, I couldn't sell it to anybody. You got it. But then how are we gonna get what that's my point. Why would I sell it? The pictures seemed like they were from- It doesn't exist Pia. How could he sell it?
Starting point is 01:50:13 If we go to the DMV they're gonna look into the past history of this car and be like this car was scrapped. It was it didn't exist. Therefore... This is really the movie where the twin brother came back. Yeah. No, the TV show, yeah. This is Schrodinger's van. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 01:50:29 Well, Billy, stay tuned. I'll have my people reach out to your people and we'll get Vanity to Chicago. Watch Last Chance Uganda on the Wontown Dodge. All right. Good plug. All right. See you, Billy.
Starting point is 01:50:44 All right. Yeah. That didn't solve anything. We're going to have so many car legal experts. Well, I'll take their advice. Give me advice because I'm going to first step is I'm going to get Chicago second step. If anyone in Chicago works at an auto body shop or like exhibit. I don't know where you're at these days. Like, I will pay real money. I would like to get, I'm sure we need a new motor, new brakes, new everything. But it would be cool if we had a van that worked.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Yeah, put some shag carpeting in there, make it real nice. Okay, so we're gonna get a new van. I heard you like podcasts. I bet you we're gonna... I bet you we're gonna... ...pocass inside your van. Yeah, I'm gonna take you to an all-body shop.
Starting point is 01:51:24 They're like, this is the dumbest thing ever. Like why would you put real money into this van? No, just like, we can make Vanity Woodhead into like an actual very cool thing. I agree. I think it's gonna have to be taken out of the studs. There's probably some rust issues. God knows what Billy's been doing in Vanity Woodhead. That's, we maybe should just burn it actually now
Starting point is 01:51:41 that I think about it. It might have been his apartment for a while. There might be like several reptiles still living in there that all have names. I remember there was a hole in the floor. Yeah, that's part of the charm. I peed through that hole one time. We're driving the highway. We're driving down the highway and we used to pee through that hole.
Starting point is 01:51:54 Yeah. Don't have to pull over. But yeah, so if anyone had to back. Boston Connor lived in it for like three days in Indy. Oh, that's right. Every time I see him on McPee Show, I'm always like, he was an intern, he lived in Vanity Woodhead. The it's it's actually a perfect thing for for our eight year anniversary
Starting point is 01:52:10 today to have Vanity Woodhead come back alive. It's perfect gift. I like that. So yeah, Vanity Woodhead's back. We'll figure out a way to fix it up. Like I said, if anyone knows how we can make it real again. And then if anyone has an auto body shop or like pimps out cars in the Chicago area, we're ready. So we could do a whole video series of bringing it back to life. Get a fucking sick like engine.
Starting point is 01:52:36 We need everything now. Yeah, it's gonna just be the shell of it. But we're doing it. So update, Billy just sent a photo over from the person that now has custody of any woodhead Hi, Will. It's someone is this van garage. Can I get rid of it? I think that meant to say is this van garbage. Oh and that happened today That's why Billy so Billy just gave this problem to someone else. Yeah person was like, hey man This problem is kind of annoying.
Starting point is 01:53:06 Yeah. What are we doing with this? Can I throw away this van? Well, Billy, yeah, he's like, can I park it here for a couple of days and it's been two years. Yeah, that's exactly what happened. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Last firefest, Steven Shea. He's been traveling with us. There's nothing better. Like Steven Shea's whole life is a make-a-wish, but bringing him to Combine Week is the best because he just walks around being like, oh, there's Bucky Brooks. Oh, did you think Daniel Jeremiah took a shit in this bathroom? Should I sniff the seat? He also met a guy named Joe Bucks fan last night who has a blog and it was like it was like dueling countries it was like a country's that were about to go to war he was he wasn't
Starting point is 01:53:50 so warm with him no I mean the on your turf I didn't know there were two guys who care this much about the box there's a lot there's there's several bucks so one of the most concerning parts of the evening last night was one of the Chee Chee introduced me to a bunch of people from the Bucks front office that he's friends with. And they actually love Steven Che. Yeah, I know. It's it makes me want to sell stock on the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Well, how much they like and trust Steven Che.
Starting point is 01:54:16 It's because if you know who else would be talking about the Bucks. Well, and also if you know Steven Che, if you don't have to deal with Steven Che every day, he can come across as like a normal person that you would like. And also if you know Steven Che, if you don't have to deal with Steven Che every day, he can come across as like a normal person that you would like. And but if we like send him to the box for like two weeks, they would send him back. They'd be like, they'd actually take a picture of him
Starting point is 01:54:37 and be like, hey, we chopped it for parts, do you want them? Too much Che. I became, we kind of look back on this finally, but I became a little bit endearing to some of the people there because the first time I ever met all of them really, I met the GM Jason Light, he brought me on the sideline. And he was like, oh, why don't you meet the director of a pro personnel, John Spitek.
Starting point is 01:54:58 So I just turned on, I was just like, hey, Steve, and I go, dude, what's going on? Right guard, we gotta figure this out. And he just turns, Hey, Steve, I was going to go, uh, dude, what's going on with the right guard? We got to figure this out. And he just turns to me and he goes, you just got right to the point. Yeah, no, he's a super high level person. But, uh, yeah, I, uh, I voiced my concerns to them. They know, uh, Jason Lee was giving me shit about a right tackle who I was very nervous about this year. I got a great year and, uh,
Starting point is 01:55:23 what about the bucks treating families poorly and also the bucks? I mean, if that was family and friends, it would be an A plus because I get the red carpet rolled out every time. But yeah, if it's just biological families, I can't speak for that because I don't qualify. But yeah, they're a first class organization.
Starting point is 01:55:40 They actually made a statement about it. That doesn't make them first class. That's impressive. Yes, we have bucks. First class. That probably made a statement about it. That doesn't make the first class. That's impressive. Yes, we have bugs. That probably is a Florida thing. Some like gross bugs down there. They have some serious bad bug issues in Florida. Not specifically in the stadium, but just all around. Okay, so what's your firefest? Because I explained firefest to you and if anyone knows Steven J. He was like, this is gonna be tough for me because nothing
Starting point is 01:56:02 really gets him down ever, but you have to have something Yeah, I mean it just has to be something like recent because I can tell an older story knows It's like this past week We it's like a way to recap the week and send us off in the weekend You can pretend that what happened to you a couple weeks ago just happened to you It's like a pretty well-known story from the act with my van, but wait what the my minivan. What'd you do? You can have insurance for it didn't pay so I thought and this is like kind of it yeah oh this is oh this is when you I don't have to do this one yeah yeah yeah yeah but if we're doing a more
Starting point is 01:56:36 recent thing no but just say that one because it's so ridiculous and we'll just say it very quickly sure so I bought a minivan, and when you buy it, you can pay for a cut, or sorry, leased it. You can pay for a couple months up front. So I did that, so I paid three months up front. But then you can set up recurring auto payments, automatic payments, auto pay. And so I did that, and I got an email confirming I did that,
Starting point is 01:57:08 but the email, the email's title was confirming you have set up an auto payment. And so I took that as, all right, sweet, done. Don't have to worry about this ever again. They were saying automobile payment. I did not realize. That's intentional by the way. and he got repossessed. Yeah, four months later, my van was repossessed from my driveway
Starting point is 01:57:31 and we called the police. We thought it was stolen and they ran the plates and they were like, Oh, yeah, this was this was toad. Yeah, you didn't pay. I wish it was on one of those reality shows for the repo guys. Those are the best. Those all true, by the way, all 100 percent true, not staged. All right. So what happened bad this week?
Starting point is 01:57:46 Nothing, you can say nothing. I mean, Donovan Mitchell is the worst pick ever. Yeah, I mean, if you're good, you're gonna lose 40% of your bets. I can't get this banned off. So these are, we got these bans in these parties. Come on, come on. I'm with them.
Starting point is 01:58:01 Yeah, you're in this boat too. So they're the, I've never gotten a bracelet like this where it's like this thing There was music festival time. That was stupid. No, yeah and I don't know. I've never had a road like this, but I cannot rip you. You have to use scissors You can I got no I can't with your hands. Yeah, you bite it. I just slowly went like that Oh, I mean mine's tight enough where it's not gonna fit over the edge of yeah,'ll pass back. I mean you can attest this is tough. I was trying to do this This is one of those I had oh we got sisters right there
Starting point is 01:58:35 Thank you. We're gonna save the day. I had one of these on I forget where we were we're about to do an interview And I tried to rip it off with my hand You almost broke your hand and I like I think that's what injured my UCL The first time I remember you're like wrist popped. Yeah, you could you could hear it on the tape You're stuck in this boat too, right? Did you try and take that off? No, I'm not freaking out because I just knew I'd cut it off eventually Yeah, I mean nothing. I have a good firefest Steven. I've attended events before he has a Steven has a bracelet that he can't get off I've attended events before. He has a Steven has a bracelet that he can't get off. Firefest the week.
Starting point is 01:59:05 Great show, boys. Indy combine always fun. One night in Indy one night in Indy. We got a couple of interviews coming next week for that we taped. That would be great. Dan Quinn and Diana Rossini. Let's kick it to ourselves in studio for the lottery ball. OK, numbers time, sending into the weekend. I'll do eight.
Starting point is 01:59:23 I'll do 88. I'll do 88. I'll do 87. Okay. How does that hurt me? I'll do 77. I'll change into 20. I'm changing to 20. I'm sick with 77. I'm changing to 20. Going three. Oh, this is a lot of pressure max 99. This is a lot of pressure max 67 man if that had been 20 Drink on me Drink on me Drink on me Talking away I don't know what I have to say I'll say it anyway Today is a moment late to find you Shining away
Starting point is 02:00:49 I'll be coming for your love okay Shining away I'll be coming for your love okay Needless to say I'm all singing It's about me, starting a little bit So then the problems I've been Take on me
Starting point is 02:01:16 Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me Take on me I'll change the course in peace I'll change the course in peace I'll change the course in peace I'll change the course in peace I'll change the course in peace
Starting point is 02:01:39 I'll change the course in peace I'll change the course in peace I'll change the course in peace I just don't remember the reason why You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away I'll be coming for you any way You're shying away I'll be coming for you any way Take on me Take on me, take on me
Starting point is 02:02:07 Take on me, take on me Take on me, take on me Take on me, take on me I'll hold you tight Take on me, take on me Take on me, take on me, take on me you

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