Pardon My Take - Arnold Schwarzenegger, Week 17 Picks And Preview + Should We Feel Bad For Russ And Browns Are In The Playoffs

Episode Date: December 29, 2023

The Cleveland Browns are in the playoffs and with Joe Flacco anything is possible (00:00:00-00:08:05). We talk Week 17 picks and preview and whether or not we should feel bad for Russell Wilson at all... plus a new Connor Stallions theory for the Ravens (00:08:05-01:16:28). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Ja Morant calling a ref a ho (01:16:28-01:27:28). Arnold Schwarzenegger joins the show to talk about his new book, body building, what he meant to us as children of the 90's and tons more (01:27:28-02:07:50). We finish with fyre fest of the week (02:07:50-02:17:17).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, part of my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon music. On today's part in my take, we have an awesome interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger, probably a lifelong dream for me and PFT to get him on the show. It was via Zoom, but I think we have a future date where we're maybe going to go to LA and lift with him. So very, very fun interview. When is like, I just had a smile on my face the entire time. We're also going to do picks and preview for week 17. It's just me and PFT again because it is a vacation week. It's going to be abbreviated. We're going to fire through the games. So we're ready
Starting point is 00:00:43 to roll. We have the Arizona ball. We're both in Arizona right now. We're the Arizona through the games. So we're ready to roll. We have the Arizona ball. We're both in Arizona right now. We're the Arizona ball on Saturday, tune in to a clock. Mountain time, four o'clock Eastern time, barstool.tv and the CW. We're gonna be on TV. But we got a great show for you. We're gonna do an extra hot sea cool thrones.
Starting point is 00:00:59 We didn't have a show on Wednesday, fire fest of the week. And let's get into it. Let's get into everything. Let's, let's, let's get into everything. We have Joe Flacco, we're gonna talk Thursday night football. So okay, let's go. It's parting my take. There's an about our sports. Welcome to part of my take today is Friday, December 29th and PFT.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Joe Flacko is elite. He is fucking elite and the Cleveland Browns clinch of playoff spot. And watching this game, the thought occurred to me. What if we had a Browns line, Super Bowl? How cool would that be? Well, we'd be out of a lot of money. That's what we'd have. willing to sacrifice that just for the good of America. I think our country needs something like that, the battle for Lake Erie. I think we're also in a spot where like that's getting ahead of ourselves a little bit.
Starting point is 00:02:25 If we just get Stafford versus the Lions and Flacco versus Ravens, that would be pretty nice. Like in terms of storylines and drama. Yeah. One thing at a time, let's go baby steps of that. Yes, the Browns, clinch of playoff spot, good for them. Incredible season. They've been like the most injured team.
Starting point is 00:02:43 It feels like and like we've talked about it pretty much every single week, the roller coaster of their season where they've had big win followed by big injury, followed by big win, followed by big injury over and over and over again. Joe Flacco is their starting quarterback. And I feel so much more confident about the Cleveland Browns in 2023 than if to Sean Watson and played the whole season. I can't believe I'm saying that sentence, but I fully believe it. Like I think Joe, if you're a Browns fan and you know the history of your franchise,
Starting point is 00:03:13 and you know how the season is gone, Joe Flacco with how he's playing right now is the perfect guy for this because you can basically say to yourself, like, what if he just gets hot, he's done it before. What if he just gets hot? We know that he can do it. Why not with this team? And he's hot right now. He's so hot. And he had those one very funny moment. If I don't know if you're watching the prime vision broadcast, but are good for Sam Schwartzstein, he started doing like a picture and picture talking about Joe Flaka, whether or not he's elite. He's like, yes, by our advanced metrics, they created like all these advanced saber metrics to determine whether or not he's elite, he's like, yes, by our advanced metrics, they created like all these advanced saber metrics to determine whether or not a quarterback is he
Starting point is 00:03:48 lead or not. And then Sam is like, we've debated this for it feels like 12 years now, but I can say that right now Joe Flacco, yes, he is an elite quarterback. Half a second later, he does the pick six where he's falling backwards and like two pump fakes gets taken back to the end zone. It was a very funny moment on live TV, but the way that Flacco is playing right now and he did it today without a Mario Cooper. So last week, a Mario Cooper set records in terms of like how, how many yards he had. He was just like dominating every single ball in the air.
Starting point is 00:04:18 And then this week, it's like, you know what, I'm just going to throw the ball to David and Joku a hundred times the first half and we're not going to miss a beat. yeah, the browns like I put a bet on them about a month ago 50 to one. I'm feeling better about that bet that I'm about my bills bet right now. Yeah, I mean the browns are hot and they it is really just like when you talk about hope it's Joe flacco Joe flacco is he trades in hope because you know that he has that in him somewhere. He is that guy. That's the whole conversation about when he got the big contract, when he won the Super Bowl, everything. He is that like there is that guy inside of him. And there's a lot of quarterbacks in the league who might be better like week to week or more consistent, but they don't have that that that thing where you're like, but what if he just gets hot? It's a very Eli Manning-esque thing. And I was actually thinking about it,
Starting point is 00:05:07 like, what if Joe Flacco wins a Super with the Browns? He has to be a whole favorite, right? Yeah, half a percent. And it would be, you know, it'd be perfect, too. Former Baltimore Raven, winning Super Bowl with the Browns. The Baltimore Ravens used to be the Cleveland Browns, took the franchise, then Cleveland takes Baltimore's quarterback and wins one. That would be awesome.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah. It's, it's set up perfectly. So I'm excited for the Baltimore playoffs. I have a question for Max. Max as an Italian, why don't you show Joe Flacco the respect that you showed Tommy DeVito? Flacco doesn't sound as Italian as DeVito does. That's true. That's true. Yeah. His name is in a vowel. Yeah. Yeah. It does. And in a vowel. But Tommy DeVito sounds like a more Italian name.
Starting point is 00:05:54 It just sounds like a fuck boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Joe Flacco is Joe Flacco in the Italian American sports hall fam. He should be. He absolutely should be. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I guess he's like too steady, too even keeled. We need to celebrate Italians like Joe Flacco just as much as we celebrate Italians like Tommy DeVito. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'd agree.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I'd agree. Okay, so let's get into the picks and preview for week 17. So just at the stage, we are, like I said, this is technically a vacation week. So we're on Zoom, Hank and Jake are not here. We're on Zoom, not Riverside. So it sounds shitty, tweet a PFT and blame him because his computer had a corrupted file, which PFTU, you weren't there for the very funny moment of Max and Evan and I were sitting
Starting point is 00:06:40 on the Riverside waiting for you. And you texted me and Max being like, Max, it says there's a disc server corrupted. And Max and I were just like, Max doesn't know anything about computers. Like nothing. I had to tell somebody and I knew, like what am I gonna do? It'd be like, hey big cat, my computer
Starting point is 00:06:56 is a corrupted disc here right now. I just, you're all waiting for that. So I just decided to put it on Max. And that was maybe we could play Max. But no, it's my fault. This is a computer I use for the dozen, for a lot of stuff that we do and for whatever reason. Sorry if it's on zoom. I will take all of your complaints.
Starting point is 00:07:11 I'm sorry. Yes, all complaints filed the PFT, but just to set the stage so people are aware. So this is the last show we'll do on zoom. Monday, you'll get an extra, extra long show. We'll be back in studio. We'll obviously talk college football playoff at week 17, everything, everyone will be back. So, and the Arnold Schwarzenegger interview is very, very much worth it. We taped it like two weeks ago, so we were together for that. So, fear not. But we are going to
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Starting point is 00:08:10 See app for details Uber Eats get almost almost anything order now with Uber Eats. Okay, PFT week 17. First of all, fuck you to the NFL schedule makers 10 games in the early slate three games in the afternoon. They basically were just like we're gonna just try to scramble everyone's brain in the second the last big someday of the year. Would you have a Saturday night game? But yeah, I looked at it and I started to count the games at that like one o'clock and then kick off and I was like, what is going on? Why do they have this many games? Yeah, it's a bad job. I would have much rather enjoyed like three games
Starting point is 00:08:49 on Saturday again. I'll try to do this. Yes, yes. So we have a lot of shitty games, but a couple really, really good games. Obviously a ton of playoff implications. So we're gonna fire through them. Let's start Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:09:03 try to Dallas. I think we're both very excited for this game. This game to me comes down to just like how big of a letdown spot for Detroit. That's really what it is. Like will there be a letdown spot that was obviously an emotional win winning the NFC North? Do they have a little setback from that? And also Dallas kind of needs a win very badly right now. They're not, they're reeling a little bit. They've lost two and a half. Yeah. And Dallas is what seven and an old home and they're coming down off whatever the opposite of the let down spot is they, they kind of had a statement loss last week. We talked about it on Tuesday's part of my take where we said in a weird way, the fraud bowl actually
Starting point is 00:09:42 ended up making us like both teams a little bit more. So Dallas had a very emotional loss, but almost in a way that should light a fire under their ass last week. So I feel like they're going to be coming out swinging. It's also the Jimmy Johnson game, which has to count for something, right? We've waited 30 years for Jimmy Johnson to get into the ring honor. They selected this weekend as a week in Jerry Jones Let's them in finally which to me is more proof than anything that Jerry Jones is actually dead and that AI Jerry Jones It's not running the show, but regardless it'll be like an emotional Saturday night prime time game for the Cowboys I think I think I like the Cowboys in this game. Let me ask your question though. How much emotion does the actual team care about Jimmy Johnson? I'd say zero
Starting point is 00:10:26 The the stadium will care the stadium will care the team itself was probably like okay We all we all weren't born when this happened any other team I would say that that's probably true for but with the cowboy is you know that Jerry Jones is gonna be talking to guys before the game He's the most hands-on owner. It's a big know that Jerry Jones is going to be talking to guys before the game. He's the most hands on owner. It's a big weekend for Jerry Jones personally. But will he be talking like Jimmy Johnson? He'll be like Jimmy Johnson. He was a real son of a bitch.
Starting point is 00:10:53 He and I really didn't like each other. Well, I could, I could also see it going the other way where the team was like, wow, Jerry's gotten soft. Yeah. Let him, Jimmy, in the of fame. Like, I'm not afraid of this guy anymore. Like I thought this was a dude that would hold a grudge against me for forever. Like you guys think I hate Mike McCarthy? I really hated Jimmy Johnson. He was so much better than Michael Carthee. Just tell you how it used to be. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I'm still going
Starting point is 00:11:22 with the take that it's a big, a big big game for the cowboys. Yes, they have. It's a half to win game. And I also like I know this over is very, very high. And I know totals have come down all year in the NFL, but I'm going to take this over because I don't know how either team stops the other. Like it does feel like both teams are just going to do whatever they want offensively. I feel like the cowboys are going to go back to running their zone defense that they normally run. They didn't do it last week because you can't, you can't really play man to man against Tyree kill.
Starting point is 00:11:52 That's just an impossible thing to do. Um, but I feel like they'll go back to their old defense this week. I could, I could say the Cowboys like holding, holding the lines to 20 points, 23 points. Well, I really do think like there's, I know there's, you can't say let down spots exist the same way in the NFL as they do in college football. It has to be like you just won the NFC North. You don't think the Lions party didn't like took a big sigh or relief after this. And now the weird part is the Lions, we like, we're the can still get the one seed, which I didn't even realize. So they are still playing for a lot, but there just has to be a let down. I can't, I'm convinced that they're, they're like, you do something that no team,
Starting point is 00:12:33 no lines team has done in the history of the franchise and also secure a home playoff game for the first time in 30 years. Like everyone's human. If I did something like that, I'd take the fucking next three months off like yeah job well done Yeah, that's gonna be us after the Schwarzenegger interview comes out. See yeah, we just did some great accomplish to 30 year goal of our as piece. I'm out for a week Yeah, I'll say this way if the lines Managed to go to Dallas and beat the cowboys. I'm gonna upgrade them to the potential Super Bowl in FCT. Right now, I'm still like, I need the defense,
Starting point is 00:13:09 and Justin Houston coming back in the next couple of weeks is gonna be big for them, I think. And CD-DU's isn't back yet. So they're gonna get better on defense, but right now, I still kind of have that thing that you saw like two months ago, where you're like, I don't really trust the defense against a good offensive team
Starting point is 00:13:25 So they're able to come out there and beat the Cowboys. I might I might put them into my trust call It's not even a good offensive team. I mean look look Nick Mullins had 400 yards against it I know that there was four turnovers, but it was also like Hockinson and Addison had to how to be out for the season For the Lions to start getting stops. It's just that's how all their games go. They're just they're just going to give up big leads. They're going to get big leads. They're going to like it's just going to be a it's be on this football to watch.
Starting point is 00:13:54 But yeah, I just will see if they can if they can slow down the Cowboys at all, I would agree with you. I'll I'll I'll have to upgrade them. This is a trust game to me. Yeah, it's a trust game for the Lions. And if the Cowboys win, I'm probably just going to be like, yeah, the Cowboys win at home again. Big deal. Yeah. Okay, next game, Sunday, best game, Dolphins Ravens, literally for the one seed. Obviously, the either team could lose and week 18. And then that would, you know, be out
Starting point is 00:14:20 the window. Like, well, I actually know if the Dolphins won this week and then lost in week 18, the Ravens would then have the ones because they have obviously one less loss in them right now. That hard knocks clip of Tyree Kill and Tuah when he was talking, he pretended to talk to Braxton Barrios, which we love Braxton Barrios. He's a friend of the program bit on the show, Thurstrap King. That's kind of kind of suck. We suck where like you're like, you know, it's like the biggest play of the game. And he's like, he's like, all right, reek. No one look at reek. Let me just look at Brax and Barrios. Yeah. And just pretend that like he's going to get the ball, even though no one, no one in the world thinks he is. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a, it's a little bit
Starting point is 00:15:01 emasculating. But if you're a Brax and Barrios, you know what your role is on that team? Yeah. Your role is on months and can catch balls, you know, when the other guys are covered. And date Alex Earl, that's pretty much. Yeah, yeah, just pretty good life. Be a Miami guy on our sideline. You're good. I have a theory, and you can tell me if this is fan fiction that I've been writing my head for the last couple days. But the, you know, the defense coordinator of the Ravens is? Mike McDonald? Yes.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Seeing him on the sidelines a lot this year, he seems like the next hot head coach and waiting. He'll get more interviews this off season. I'm sure because their defense, I think, leads the NFL and scoring, I believe. Great coach. You used to coach at Michigan. Do you think that there's any chance at all that Connor Stallions has been working for
Starting point is 00:15:47 the Ravens since he resigned from Michigan? I think it's not a zero percent chance. I actually, this triggered a theory I have that we have to look into with the Cowboys, which I should have mentioned when we're talking about the Cowboys. Cowboys are too good at home. Do you think there's any chance that Jerry's figure out a way to back into their communication? Uh, yeah, probably.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. But yes, I, uh, why wouldn't Connor Stallions? I mean, he's, he's die hard. Harbaugh, he'll do whatever he has to do for the, for the Harbaugh man. Yeah. I honestly do think that he would die for anybody in the Harbaugh family, including Tom Kreen. But yes, I looked it up since since
Starting point is 00:16:25 he resigned, the Ravens are six and one. Their only loss was at Cleveland, where everybody would recognize Connor Stallions, if you went to Ohio, I'll public in the number one, their defense has been playing lights out. I'm just, I'm just going to float it out there with absolutely no backing behind it. But besides the fact that McDonald used to coach at Michigan and Connistallians is a hardball guy for life. I like the theory. I like the theory. Did you see the other theory floating around the internet today that so the 49ers have lost four games this year? The first three times they lost they scored exactly 17 points and then the quarterback got hurt shortly thereafter against the, you know, the team they're playing. So the Browns to Sean Watson got hurt. The Vikings, Kurt Cousins got hurt.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And then the Bengals Joe Burrow got hurt. And so they're thinking that maybe it's like a, the, the ref was actually doing the Ravens a favor by tripping up Lamar Jackson making the final score for the 49ers 19, not 17. I like that. So Lamar Jackson's been saved. That's probably it's probably more likely than kind of stallions working behind the scenes for the Ravens, but I like both. There's why can't they both be true.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah, they're both true. As for this game, I I want to take the Ravens really badly, but I like, I feel like this is a fuck around game for the Ravens. I know that makes no sense because they're playing for the one seed, but that win was so big in, they just fuck around. They lost the Colts and overtime, they lost to the, uh, browns when they're up 14, they lost the Steelers, the Steelers team that can't do anything this year by dropping a million balls. They're like the, the quintessential, if they lose, you can just be like, well, yeah, they were fucking around. They shouldn't have been fucking around. I don't know if they're going to fuck around against the dolphins though.
Starting point is 00:18:21 I don't think so, but I'm also nervous because like this would be the fuck around spot off a big win, but both teams are off a big win. I kind of want to fade both teams. I don't know how you can do that. Ty. Ty. We should see like the spots as both teams. Yeah. I don't you want to call. Yeah. You want to call Mike? No, we can't. We can't. We'll do it. We'll wait because he's too keen on it now. But we publicly embarrassed him. He is. Well, yeah, but we appreciate Mike.
Starting point is 00:18:53 We really do. Yeah. Yeah, I want to know if this is going to, because he has the opportunity to turn this into like a brand for himself to be like the biggest Ravens Hater on planet earth, which I don't think he really wants to do. But if he had a more shrewd eye towards like carving out that niche for yourself,
Starting point is 00:19:11 like you've got certain people in media that absolutely hate other teams, skip bailiffs, hates LeBron, you can find your niche, and then you'll be that person, like they go to person for that, we don't really have a Ravens Hater. He's not like his two honest because it is true. Like there's a lot of media people though.
Starting point is 00:19:28 They just pick a lane and then they just like because they they do the calculation where they're like, all right, I'm going to pick this lane and if I end up being wrong, it's even better for me because then everyone's going to tune in to see me publicly embarrassed. I think Mike is too honest for that. I don't think like he actually calls it like he sees it. He won't do the easy way out. Cause it is easy way out where you just be like, I think this and I'll just keep saying this forever
Starting point is 00:19:49 and forever. And then if I'm wrong at the end of the year, everyone's gonna tune into my show at 9 a.m. and be like, ah, you're wrong. Yeah, that's a more sweet. That's a more sweet. Yeah, it's actually like it's an undefeated way to make yourself a very good living in this business.
Starting point is 00:20:03 He should be a bigger flowers fan if his name's florist. That's true to me. I can go. That's the fact. I'm excited for this game though. I'm very excited for this game. Also, I'm too dolphins. Obviously, beat a really good team in the Cowboys, but they still haven't done it on the road. So maybe we can just shift the narrative to that and no jailing model. And to his thumb to his got a thumb. He's got two thumbs, but he's got a one thumb that hurts one injured. I think it was probably good for the Raven or for the dolphins to win a low score in game like that. Yeah, where they get to they they don't get in their defense. There was a lot of stuff going on. They were they were asked in the in the media this week. I know Mike McDaniels had to deal with a lot of like,
Starting point is 00:20:46 are you guys too cute? I think they just straight up asked him, are you too cute? And he was saying that, you know, there's people that talk out there and it doesn't really affect what they're doing. I actually think that if enough people call football team too cute, they do start to listen to that. Yeah, I agree with that. I absolutely agree with that.
Starting point is 00:21:04 How can you not? listen to that. Yeah, I agree with that. I absolutely agree with that. How can you not? You hear that? And then the Ravens, the Ravens are playing, like the Ravens are just talking about how they're the biggest 100 dogs in the world. Which I don't know how you can still be when you have the best record in the NFL, but it works for them.
Starting point is 00:21:16 So don't fix what's, you know, not broken there. Yeah, yeah, just give yourself whatever fuel that you need. But I think I like the dolphins in this one. We do have our one nerd nugget of the week. We told Jake to send us his nerd nugget of week. It is the Ravens have recorded at least one sack and thirty second, thirty six consecutive games. Mark the NFL's longest active streak, the longest such streak in franchise history. Very cool. I don't count that as you didn't do the sound. Do do do. Okay. No, no, get out the week. Very cool.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Very cool. All right, Saints of Box. PFT, I'm going to do something really dumb. I'm probably going to bet the Saints. Yeah, that's pretty dumb. Pretty dumb. It is, but it's also like this is the bucks are good-ish. Bakers played very well. He should win Comeback Player of the Year, Joe Flacco. I, no disrespect to Demar Hamlin, but why is he winning?
Starting point is 00:22:16 He should not win Comeback Player of the Year. They should do a different award for Demar. They should name an award after Demar. Yeah, if you almost die, you get the Demar Hamlin award. Yeah. You get the Dermar Hamlin. Uh, excellence and courage award. I actually think that Dermar Hamlin, probably if you hit him with true seren right now, he'd probably be like, I kind of don't want to win this because everyone's going to just shit on me and be like, you had two tackles and two games. Like there, there is
Starting point is 00:22:43 an element like I honestly think Dermar Hamlin's like, can I just be a regular human being again? Like I know it was a crazy story, but I want to just go back and maybe, you know, get my career back on track. He should have won the award last year when he survived. When he came back from literally death, that's when you wouldn't come back player of the year. But yeah, this year, they're good. They're probably going to give it to them because football writers, they see a story like that and they're like, Oh, wow. It's just such a great, great story that we have to promote. But yeah, if we're being honest, he hasn't played much. We've got some really good deserving names like, yeah, Flacco, but Baker, I would say Baker, like, if Flacco did it all year long,
Starting point is 00:23:23 then that's one thing. But Baker's been, he's been pretty solid all year. They're probably maybe going to win the division. I don't want to jinx it, but they have, they have every opportunity. Even if they lose this game against the Saints, I think if they win next week, they win the division, right? Uh, the who, the, the box. Oh, the box. Yes, the box. Yes. Yeah. So I mean, Baker, he's put together a season, I'm not just saying this because I bet on them to win the award, but I also am kind of saying it because of that. But I do think that he should win. I, tomorrow, it's a good
Starting point is 00:23:55 story. I don't want to take it anymore. It's hard to say that he shouldn't win, but I'm here. I'll be the brave one and say this guy shouldn't win the award. Name it after I say the award after him next year. He shouldn't win the award. It is just a fact. He shouldn't win the award. As for this game, I'm going to take the Saints probably because I just feel like the Saints couldn't be worse and the bucks are riding as high as possible. It's like a it's the combination.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's a by low sell high situation for like I The bucks are playing out of this world good the last few weeks, and I think it's slightly A mirage like I think they're a good team. I don't think they're as good as they've been playing and the the Saints are Bad but maybe they're not as bad. This is even me saying this sounds dumb. Yeah, so I also have a nerd nugget for this game It's um the fact that the Saints this is their first saying this sounds dumb. So I also have a nerd nugget for this game. It's the fact that the Saints, this is their first outdoor game since October 8th. Yeah, okay. That's a big red flag to me. Yeah. But I think like if you watched the Saints last week, I understand what you're saying. I get it. Where with the bucks, they beat what we
Starting point is 00:25:01 thought was a good team, the Jaguars, they crushed them. Baker's been playing out of his mind. Uh, now's the time where they should come back to Earth, but also the Saints have just looked real, real bad for the last month. There's no football analysis behind the fact that I'm just saying that everyone in the world is going to look at box minus two and a half on Sunday and be like, that's the easiest bet in the world.
Starting point is 00:25:23 And that's always the bet that loses. You see the report that Russell Wilson, a possible, possible destination for him next year might be with the Saints. Oh my God. I can't, I can't think of a worse culture. I can't think of a worse culture fit for the city of New Orleans than Russell Wilson with the exception of maybe, maybe Derek Carr. Well, the only thing you could say is maybe Russ would like, maybe like enjoy eating with Zion and they both get really fat. That'd be fun. Russ could get fat. Russ has the frame to get fat.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah, it would be, it would be very funny seeing tubby little Russ Wilson. Waddle around next year. That would be, that would actually be like, I would, I would have to like stop the simulation and say this is actually mean to Saints fans at this point. You can't do this. And it's been torture for them this year. Did you see that podcast caller last week that called in a complaint about Derek Carr? I thought that guy was from like statin island. No, so that's through a couple of y'alls. That's the New Orleans accent. I can't remember. I, I, I, I had a clip.
Starting point is 00:26:27 This comedian, very funny comedian went on a late night show and he explained it that all New Orleans accents, like true New Orleans accents are essentially like a Brooklyn fire fighter with a couple of alliums. Yeah. Yeah. I did. And when he broke it down, I was like, wow, that's exactly what it is. I hit up our friend Derek that we got to meet from LSU way back in the day. And I was
Starting point is 00:26:47 like, this guy, I thought he's from New York, until he threw it in the y'all. And he was like, yeah, they're both, they're, the accents are exactly the same. They're both port cities. Yeah. So I guess that's just a port accent. Yeah. And shout out snow like John. That was his calling show after very, very funny. He's a, he's a good content creator down in New Orleans. Um, he does, he does red beans and rice reviews every day. It's fucking awesome. Every single time I see it, I'm just like, I want that. I want that. I agree with what you're saying that now, now would be the time to fade the bucks, but I haven't seen anything out of the saints that
Starting point is 00:27:17 I've liked. And it feels like it's dumb. It's dumb. I'm fully saying how stupid what I'm saying is, but it's just that feeling. Like I've been doing this long enough that when you can see those easy like spots, you're like, oh, man, the box. This is going to be the easiest game ever. This is also a potential Mike Evans gets ejected game. He loves trading the Saints. True. He does like he likes fighting the Saints. You right? It seems like it happens more often in the dome though. Yeah. He does get pissed in the dome. Okay, next game, Raiders at Colts.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I don't know. I like, I want to bet the Raiders, but then a noconil still like what it would have been like. I hope actually I hope for this game that a noconil goes like a couple quarters without completing a pass. That would be awesome. It was a full game awesome.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah, if you if you win a full four quarters without completing a pass and I hope that they win the game too. Like they're winning at the time. Yeah. I don't I don't love the rate the raiders, but I do think that until no peers has has coach's way into being the full-time head coach. If they really want to win this game, Mark Davis should announce before the game starts. Like you're giving away a scholarship, like this walk on now has earned his position. If you're looking for a boost, Mark Davis going to the locker room before kickoff
Starting point is 00:28:33 and tell the team Antonio Pierce has come back next year as a head coach. I guarantee you win that game. Yeah, because there does feel like the Raiders win against the cheese. Like, you know, the joke that, uh, Hank and Patriots fans, you still always make like, oh, congrats on your week six Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:28:50 That did feel like a Super Bowl for the Raiders. And they were smoking cigars in the locker room after. Yeah, kind of have a, a, a running theory that if you smoke cigars in a locker room for regular season game, the next week, you can't be trusted. They did that in Pierce's first game too. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:29:04 And what happened in the second game. I don't know. I don't know. Can we look that up? I'm going to look it up right now. OK. Yeah. Cause I remember Max Crosby lit up a cigar after that game too.
Starting point is 00:29:13 Max Crosby also might just light cigars after every game. So that might be different. They I believe his first game was a giant's game. So they won the second game by they beat the Jets 16 to 12. What a barn burner. But you remember that game. The Raiders did feel like it also might have just been them celebrating not having to go back to a locker room with Josh McDaniels in it.
Starting point is 00:29:36 That's why they were excited. Yeah, but they did, they did act like that was a Super Bowl. I do have, uh, one stat that goes, stat that goes for like us just talking about storylines and being dumb from sports info solution that Raiders defense they played six high s and zone and Gardner mentions bad against the zone. So take that however you want. But I thought I'd throw in a stat that people can actually be like, hey, they're not just talking about cigars and teams being cursed after the 49ers scoring 17 points. Yeah, no, that's definitely one that you can drop in the bar and everybody be like, wow, that guy knows ball. Yeah, holy shit. Okay. All right, Patriots of Bills.
Starting point is 00:30:22 I, okay. I, okay. This game, I want to take the bill so bad, but doesn't it feel, and maybe this is way off, like the bills, this is a game that like all the pressure's on that. There's no pressure on the Patriots. They have to, they cannot lose this game. They've climbed all the way out of this hole, and they're one game away from basically playing for if the Ravens lose or the Ravens beat the dolphins. They're one game away from playing for the AFC East, which we would have thought was impossible a month and a half ago. So it's like, I don't, I think the bills will win the game, but I also feel like so much pressures on them to win this game that a 13 points spread is a lot. 13 is a lot. Yeah, for sure. And all his Patriots fans know going back to week one, we said, we're just going to play spoiler
Starting point is 00:31:10 this year. So now's the time, right? We've got two games in a row, play spoiler. You can spoil the bill season right now. And then next week, you can just spoil the jets existence and spoil their fans lives. But this is a big time spoiler game. So I think I'm going to stand by that take. I would not be shocked if the Patriots did something weird because their defense is really good. Their defense is not the problem at all. Their defense is good enough to win football games. If Bailey's happy gets hot, then anything can happen in this game. That's, that's a crazy thing to say. But yes, if Billy's happy, it's hot for half. He gets hot for half. He does. He got hot. The first half against
Starting point is 00:31:50 Steelers, you got hot for first half against Broncos. He gets hot for half. Yeah. So if he can just not be as cold in the second half as he is in the first half, then the defense 13 points is too much for this game. It also feels like he was hot, so hot last game, and that was such a big win that there's no way he's going to do it again. Right? You never know. Maybe for a half. I did read a take on, I think it was on Fox Sports. I forget who wrote it, but they're speculating that if the bills somehow collapse,
Starting point is 00:32:23 if like the Patriots win this game, and the bills ended up not making the playoffs, Belicec could take over from McDermott after the seasons over in Buffalo and Buffalo. That would be wild. What job has he not been rumored for now? He's just linked to everyone. It's just a hack where you can be like possible landing spots for Bella check. And then just do to every team. I don't know if you do that. That would be weird. Wouldn't it? That would be very weird. It depends how much he hates the Patriots. Like how bad is the exit going to be form where he will be petty enough to go inside the division? I don't see it happening. But I saw this one person throw that take out there. And I was like, that's worth exploring just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Also, Pill Pellet check. Like, dude, you've lived in cold weather for a very long time. You look miserable every time they show you on the sidelines. You're old. You know your bones probably hurt when it gets below 30 degrees. Go somewhere warm. Why not? Yeah. Go somewhere warm.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Go somewhere where if you're walking out of a house early in the morning with your shirt off, you're not going to have your nipples freezing. Yeah. Go to New Orleans. Why not? That'd be fun. Go to New Orleans, go to LA. Live the life you deserve it. Do like a half retired, half coaching job. That's the dream. It really is. But I back to this game, I I think that the bills are going to win. But I
Starting point is 00:33:38 don't I mean, they they couldn't take care of business against the chargers. That game was way closer than we thought it was going to be. So I'm saying I still trust the bills. I still they might win the division, which, you know, going into the season, we thought this might be the best division football. And they might win it, but they still might not be a very good team. There's there's I don't think there's a team you can trust right now in the NFL. I trust the commanders to suck.
Starting point is 00:34:09 How is it going to say like you go down the list? We talked about it. The Ravens are our true fuck around team. Like I think the Ravens are the best team, but you if Ravens fans are nodding right now being like, yep, we do fuck around sometimes. The 49ers, do you trust them if they go down a couple scores? Because I don't like the Cowboys defense, Alliance defense, the chiefs are broken. The dolphins can't haven't beaten a good team on the road. Like that's why this, this season is so much fun. I don't think there's one team that you can, you could say like put my life
Starting point is 00:34:40 on the line. They win this game. And the Ravens are probably the closest to the closest. Yeah. But then you they have the fuck around thing where it's like they do a full Ravens situation where it's like, wait, they're the better team. But how is this game a tied game in the fourth quarter? Yeah. I think but the bills, they're, they have more of a layer, they have more glaring structures because they haven't been good all season. They've had no, they've had good stretches. I mean, this, this stretcher on right now is very good. Yeah, but you have to say that they want to add arrowhead and then they killed the cowboys.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I would also say though, last week, that's not a team that I trust the way that they're to it around with the chargers. Yeah. Well, Eastern stick to much time for Eastern stick. Um, okay, next game, we could just falcons it pairs. Do we even want, we don't have to talk about it? Yeah, what do you want to happen? I don't care.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You care a little bit. When, yeah, I care. I, when Justin Fields looks awesome. I don't know, lose, get a better draft pick. I feel like you asked me, ask me with two minutes left in the game and I'll let you know. You've had so many instances where you get a good game from Justin Fields, but they lose. And then, and then you're like, well, he looked good, but also it would have been sweet
Starting point is 00:35:53 if he understands what winning is like. I guess actually, now that I'm really thinking about it, I would like them to win because I think there is like a culture change and they're starting to win and you know be a tough team to play. So you got to kind of carry that over in the next year. As long as the Panthers lose out, the Bears can win out and I'd be happy. Especially because yeah, if they finish eight and nine and you're like looking how they played the last two months, that's something you can build off of. That's not nothing. Right. So yeah, win. Okay. Yeah. We're all some confidence over. Do you want to win? I do think they're going to win. I don't think they're going to win. You just got to put all your bet, all your eggs in the panthers
Starting point is 00:36:33 losing basket. Correct. Like that's the thing is if the panthers, if that panthers pick wasn't there, I would say I would want the barrisons to lose. Right. Because we have that panthers pick, it changes the whole calculation. So yes, win win. And I think they are going to win. Um, because I don't think the Falcons are going to be able to run on the bears and the Falcons need to run to be good. And also doesn't it feel like the like they had a good game last week. What does that mean? That means they probably will do something stupid this week. Mm-hmm. That's our Bears Falcons preview. There's a couple games we can do that for. Rams giants, Ty God is back. The Rams, the Rams are dangerous.
Starting point is 00:37:14 The Rams are playing great ball. I think the Rams are, I kind of like this over in this game. I think the Rams are going to win this game, but I am a little nervous about Ty God Taylor because he is so much better than. It's crazy that he's like second or third string everywhere. He goes because he every time he comes in, he looks good. Yeah, it looks really good. He just gets weird injuries that happen to him all the time. And so that's that's the concern with him. I think the Rams are they're peeking at like the exact
Starting point is 00:37:41 correct time. They had the mid season downhill swoon that they went on. There was three and six. Now they're they're playing so well like they're running game. They're passing game. Matt Stafford is playing as good as he's ever played. Their defense is playing pretty good. Aaron Donald is back to being like Aaron Donald, although Rams PR might have jinxed it. I don't know if you saw this, but Rams PR put out a stat and they said quarterback Matthew Stafford became the fourth quarterback in NFL history to throw 10 plus touchdowns and no interceptions in the month of December in a single season, joining Aaron Rogers, Drew breeze and Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:38:17 It's only happened three times before. They put the stat out. Correct me from wrong big cat. I haven't looked at a calendar and while we're both on vacation, this game is being played in the month of December. Is it not? It is. It seems like they should have waited. They should have waited until after this week was over to put that stat out. I'd agree. I'd agree. That was a premature stat by a premature stat stat, stat, statculation by shifter. Yeah. Premature statulate. Sometimes the premature stats are more potent. He can't, he can't keep it in. He can't keep it. Uh, he's just the staffer was just too hot.
Starting point is 00:38:51 So he had to preach. He hadn't released the stat. It was pretty so hot. It's not. It's not. It's not you. Yeah. Yeah. He's just, yeah, Shafter just whisper. He's like, listen, it doesn't usually happen. You're just so hot, staffer You just been so good that it just, you know, it's not that like, I swear next time, well, you want to go again. You want to do it again. You want to do another stat? I swear I can, I can last longer on this stat. I'll be good. Just give me like 30 minutes and then he falls asleep. Yeah, although I just minor correction, it wasn't Adam Schaefter.
Starting point is 00:39:21 Big Hat, it was Rams P. Yara that did that. So it was real team. Yeah. Oh, I wish it was Shafter. That was funnier., big hat, it was Rams P. Yara that did that. So it was the old team. Yeah. Oh, I wish it was Schaefter, that was funnier. We can just say it was Schaefter. Yeah, it was Schaefter, it was Schaefter. I don't know why I thought it was Schaefter. I had Schaefter, oh, because Schaefter, I have alerts on. And he said, he, an alert popped up on my computer and my phone
Starting point is 00:39:39 that the Browns were the first team to make, let's see, Browns are now the first team in NFL history to make the playoffs. That's starting four different quarterbacks in the same season. It's pretty cool. Very cool. That's why I had Shaftar on my brain. The alert, Shaftar alerts are blessing in a curse because you have to have mom for, you know, Sunday mornings, but sometimes they're just, it's too much. My favorite Shaftar alerts are when I wake up on Sunday morning and I see that at like 11.59 or 12.01. It's always like one minute away from midnight. Shepter did his dump of who's playing and who's not.
Starting point is 00:40:11 He has like a handshake agreement with every team like I'm not going to put this out until midnight. The night before but just give me all your info. It's perfect. I'm not going to put this out until I put my parlay in and then I'll drop it. I think the ribs are in this game because the giants love to blitz and Stafford kills the blitz. Not fully this year, but it's also because Kyron Williams is like, he's a lead dog in terms of blocking. We talked about it in the off season when the whole running backs. They had their zoom call and everything. Kyron Williams is one of those guys that like he should just do a whole blocking highlight. And that should get him $15 million a year alone because he saves,
Starting point is 00:40:55 he saves Matt's your staff for its life multiple times again. He takes a lot of pride in this blocking. That's what they always do about running backs. Yeah. He was like that in no other aim too. He's just a dog back there. Okay, Cardinals and Eagles. I don't know Eagles have to win by a lot for me to feel good about the Eagles. Yeah, they're gonna win this game But they have to win by a lot don't you agree? Like if they go if this is another game where the Eagles win by five somehow
Starting point is 00:41:21 I'm gonna be like well, they're not fixed. It's a revenge game for the Eagles against Ganon. So yeah, if you remember the way that it all shook out before the Super Bowl, he said, Jonathan Ganon said, um, Philly's keeping me good, batter and different. I'm staying here. That was his quote. I believe after the NFC championship game, the week of the Super Bowl, the Cardinals set them up and they're like, hey, we want to interview you after the Super Bowl, if we happen to have a coaching vacancy. And he was like, yeah, sure, that sounds good. And then they interviewed him. I believe the day after the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:41:55 So it's they want us to believe that they called him the Monday morning after the Super Bowl and they're like, hey, since you're in Arizona, you want to just swing by the facility. We'll talk about it. No, this was something that was put into place probably a week or two before the game. And so I think that Philly's got like, let's get some revenge against snake Ganon. Yeah. Yeah, they have to max two things. We're in Arizona right now.
Starting point is 00:42:22 I went, I took my son to Minigolf at Talking Stick, where if you remember, we went in interviewed, Lane Johnson vibes couldn't have been higher at that very moment. Do you remember that moment, Max? Yeah, it was a great time, great time in life. Yeah, great time. Number two is, what do the Eagles have to win by for you
Starting point is 00:42:38 to feel confident? And is it also just a terrible feeling knowing that the Eagles are gonna lose in the playoffs and you know it's coming and there's nothing you can do about it. I'm going to answer that first question. I will say three scores. OK.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Three scores. Three touchdowns. No, three scores. Three scores. I like I. I. No. Six points.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Three safeties. I don't like it. I don't like the way that you guys are doing this. I think you said three scores. We want to we want to dive into the numbers. The answer is 17 or correct 17 17 would be would be nice or it like never get If it just never got to a one-score game
Starting point is 00:43:17 After the first quarter. I would be fine with that. Okay, like and then I would like the other part like a comfortable win Because sometimes the Eagles can like dominate a game and only win by 14 by just like absolutely controlling the clock in the second half. And I would like to see that. Yeah. The Eagles like the Cardinals can't really stop the run. It would be fun if the Eagles just played a game where they didn't do a Ford pass. Yeah. Like I would be fine with that. Yeah. Michigan versus Penn State. And they're like, how we're just going to win it this way. What about the other part of my question? I kind of, I know I answered, we only do one question at a time here.
Starting point is 00:43:52 One question with a max. PFT, do you have a question for Max? Oh, he's frozen. Okay, I got. I got back. We're back. We're back. We're back. Do you have a question for Max? PFT? Yeah, I do. Max is this a must win game for you guys? No, he's just asking. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:44:10 No, no. Yeah. Great. Great question. Great question. Yes. I'm I'm having PFT. I'm frozen again. So I didn't hear Max's answer. Yeah. No, he wouldn't answer the part where I said, does it suck that you know that the Eagles are going to lose in the playoffs? There's nothing you can do about it. It's going to be torturous because you know it's going to happen and it can't stop it. But we can't ask him another question. So he's just going to allude this question. Max, I was curious to know, as an Eagles fan, the way that the last couple of weeks have gone for you, are you a, no, yeah, I agree. This is the when the end of the this is painful uh...
Starting point is 00:44:48 uh... it's almost like a bit it's easy memes you have a question for max uh... i'm i'm thinking about one if all uh... you can text me the correct verbiage uh... would i think i found a problem you can text me the correct verbiage. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. that you're going to lose in the playoffs and there's nothing you can do about it and you're going to cry and be sad and you know it's coming in you suck. Good question. Good question, memes. Good question. Thanks for reaching out. Yeah, no. Most teams lose in this league. So the chances are that yes, the Eagles will lose in the playoffs. So I am preparing for that, but I'm not. I am not like I'm not canceling out all possibilities here. So the eagle still
Starting point is 00:45:52 okay, still good with the Super Bowl. Okay, okay. All right. Good answer. The bears could still win the Super Bowl. Wrong. That's incorrect. They're not eliminated right now, Max. Okay. I didn't thought they were. That's on me. I got to know my facts. I got to know my facts. The Bears and Eagles might have the same chance of winning the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Zero. Not zero. Max, what are your thoughts? Where are your thoughts on Ganon? Do you hate Ganon? I don't really give a fuck about Ganon. I hate it. I like Matt Patricia.
Starting point is 00:46:24 I'll say that. Yeah, defensive. Defences look better past past two weeks. All right, let's go to the next game for Niders of commanders, PFT, Jacobi were sent as your starter now. Good job. You got you found the right guy week 17. Yeah, while we found the right guy. Listen, this is a it's a move that at first, I was just like, why are we doing this? Why don't we just let Sam how I play the season out? You remember last year, that's when we bench high-nicky was against the Niners. We said, okay, we're going back to Carson wins. It felt weird then that feels weird now. But also the Niners are just going to destroy us. The Niners are going to take a big shit all over us.
Starting point is 00:47:05 Shanahan hates the organization. We've got Chase Young and he's gonna be looking to prove something against us. It's not good, but then I thought to myself, if you're gonna bench Sam Howe, why not bench him for this game? Just like, okay, he might not be the guy in the eyes of the coaching staff. I don't think putting him in this game is just like, okay, he might not be the guy in the eyes of the coaching staff.
Starting point is 00:47:26 I don't think putting him in this game is going to prove anything because we're going to lose no matter what. And also, I think that there might be something wrong with him physically. This would not be a good game to put him out there to let him get killed again. So I don't, I don't necessarily hate the move. It's just like a sad move for me because I saw the picture that the commanders tweeted out of Jacobi Bressette looking dummy thick, by the way. I don't know if you saw that picture, big cat.
Starting point is 00:47:48 Yep. He was like, he was doing the influence or pose with his ass sticking out in the pocket. And he is, he is the Kobe. He's Jacobi brisket. And it was very funny. And I saw that I thought to myself, you know what? Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:48:02 I guess we're doing Jacobi, percent. We want to lose this game When the game is going on. I will be rooting for the commanders But ideally I would like to lose this game and then lose the last game of the season and maybe end up with the third overall pick if my new England Patriots can do their part in place Spoiler so It's going to be a sad game to watch. I don't think that it's going to be particularly competitive. I'm not going to bet against the commanders, but if you were smart, you would bet against the commanders this weekend. Yeah. Yeah. This is going to be a tough game to watch. I would agree. All right. Let's do this is never been done in our preview, but I think because this is a abbreviated preview, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:48:41 do it here. We're going to do a combo game. So whatever you want to say, Panthers Jaguars Titans at Texans. All right. It's a four-way game. I guess Titans and Texans is a more interesting game because the Texas aren't dead. CJ Strauss coming back. The Jaguars aren't dead either. Yeah. That's a good point. I feel like the Texans are more alive to me than the Jaguars are, even though I think all the Jags have to do is they have to win against the Panthers, right? Yeah, I think they just have to win one more game, maybe. I don't know. I don't even know. Both of them are interested in watching either one of these games. Correct.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Correct. These are games. I guess There is something kind of interesting in the Titans Texans game is Will Levis and CJ Stroud. Yeah. Yeah. And CJ Stroud being back after concussion. Hopefully he looks good. I do want the Panthers to lose. Obviously, I'm very nervous about it because I actually think that the Jaguars could absolutely lose this game. But yeah, these are the games that you have to just marry home. Be like, we would kill for this game in July, but when it comes to like, it's crazy because both, like you said, the Texas and the Jaguars both are alive, but they, I don't really want to watch either
Starting point is 00:49:56 from play football right now. And maybe that will change once we see CJ Straub back out there. But right now it's like, this is a bummer. These are bummer games. You know what it was? The last couple of weeks, we got a flashback to the old Texans. And we had just now started to memory wipe ourselves of what the Texans have looked like for the past like seven years. And we had a flashback with Case Kingdom and David Smith's playing quarterback. And now it's like, okay, it's those Texans again. We forget that when CJ Strauss playing
Starting point is 00:50:27 They're actually very, very fun to watch for the most part. Yes. So I'm just hoping for a fun game. I hope both quarterbacks look good I will maybe we should reframe the narrative and say we get to watch Will Levis against CJ Strauss for the next 13 years actually Let's just hope that all four of these quarterbacks look good for the next 13 years. Actually, let's just hope that all four of these quarterbacks look good. Right? Right? Let's root for health for all four of these quarterbacks, specifically Trevor Lawrence, who's gotten every injury in the world. Yeah. I want to give a quick shout out to one of my favorite Twitter accounts, art, but make it sports. Yes. This guy has like encyclopedic memory of all sorts of art, like going back to like Renaissance paintings modern art
Starting point is 00:51:08 And he sees things that happen on TV and sports games and then he immediately finds a painting that looks exactly like that still frame The Trevor Lawrence face where his face started to melt because he got hit so hard He found the self or the portrait of Pablo Picasso Which was like a pixelated curvy face that was the exact perfect fit for it. I wish I was as good at anything as this guy is at just going back through his memory and being like, that reminds me of this thing I just saw on TV. Perfect. He's actually a well-adjusted, well-rounded person. Or it's he's a sports fan, but he also has some culture.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Yeah. The opposite of us. Exactly. We be like opposite of us. We be like, which is why we like him so much. Yeah, we try to do art for me. It could sports me like, we, that one time in the Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:51:56 No, I can't remember. Like either the Simpsons, or it's like a screenshot from the sopranos. Yeah. Yeah. Totally different. Or another sopranos. Yeah. Yeah. Tony, another or another or another sports event. Yeah. Yeah. Art put make it sports and memes his brain, except it just bunch bob memes. Yeah. This time Trevor Lawrence's face got smushed remind me of the time Blake
Starting point is 00:52:16 Portals face got smushed. Yeah. That's really it. Again, everyone Blake Portals has had his tongue wagging out and he goes getting hit. That's what I thought of. Yeah. Yeah, but if yeah, if you want to, if you want to be like 10% smarter or just feel 10% smarter, follow that guy. Alright, so gun to your head, these two games, I would go Texans minus the points and Panthers plus the points. I will go Texans minus the points and Jaguars. I feel like back to your theory on like how you're you're fading the bucks this week. I think you can do the opposite with Jaguars that they look so bad last week that now is the time to take them.
Starting point is 00:52:54 It's not a bad thought. They couldn't they could not possibly look worse. Okay, afternoon games. That was all just the one o'clock. It's crazy. I don't know why they did 10 games. Steelers at sea hawks. I think the Steelers might win this game. I like the Steelers here too. This might be back-to-back culture games for Tom. Yeah, this would get him to nine wins. Yeah, this is the ninth win game. And I mean, can you imagine if the Steelers win 10 games this year? Can you imagine if the sealers win 10 games this year? It'd be crazy. It would be crazy, especially because if they win 10 games,
Starting point is 00:53:29 they would be in the playoffs. And I wouldn't really hate them being in the playoffs because it would have meant that they looked good for the last three weeks of the season. And Mason Rudolph would be fun. It does make it a little nervous because it feels like the story of the season is back up quarterback comes in, does awesome things. we were reminded why the back of quarterback. It's the dobs here. If you can if you want to tell the full story of the 2023 NFL season. It's Josh dobs and all his like offspring. branch of the dobs tree is just quarterbacks Jake Browning popping up looking good Zach Wilson getting hurt coming back looking good getting hurt again coming back looking good. Billy's happy looking good for a game like Mason Rudolph looking good for game all these guys Nick Mullins all all through luck. To lock like you can go down a Kobe percent. But there's just a list of these guys who've come in for a game behind a key when he came in for the first game
Starting point is 00:54:25 Now he's back like that's the entirety of this NFL season is guys coming in for one start Easton stick Like it just keeps going on and on and on so it is the Josh jobs year Yeah, no, that's that's a good point We've had a lot of quarterbacks that show up and it's a feel good story And we're like oh, this is so awesome. See that, there should be a team that gets the playoffs and then they have an unexpected backup come in like right at the start of the playoffs. Then we get a nice little like two, maybe three game stretch. We're like, oh, wow, this version of Josh Dobbs is awesome before they fall off
Starting point is 00:55:00 and lose in a heartbreaking fashion. But do you remember I remember Tyson Pageant? That was awesome for a week. Yeah. So with Mason Rudolph, I feel like what he's done is very similar to what Drew Lock did. Like everybody was very down on Drew Lock. A lot of people were disrespecting him. A lot of people like us included, we're saying bad things, thinking bad things about Mason
Starting point is 00:55:29 Rudolph. Um, just our own fault for the last like three years. And then he came in, played well and we're like, wow, I guess we've really turned the page on him. I think we have another like week or two of feeling good about Mason Rudolph before like, oh yeah, fuck that guy. Yeah, I agree with you. So this is maybe this is the last week.
Starting point is 00:55:49 So we should probably be like, you know, we should probably get the Steelers. Yeah, I think so. And then in the Broncos game, I think this is our, oh, Jared's did him. Yeah, he's a bronze in your jobs. I mean, we should talk quickly about Russ, the sad ending of Russell Wilson's maybe his career. I someone will pick him up, but I don't know if he's going to, like if I said to you right now, Russell Wilson over under 15 starts in the NFL for the rest of his career, would you take the over the under? It depends how bad the team is that picks them up.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I take the under I think. I think I think he'll get another shot. I think I think he'll get another shot after this next shot. So I take the over this shot. Well, I don't know if this shot will be a starting job. I think he will. I think he's going to I think he's going to start week one next year. And then I don't know if he's going to last the entire season. And then there'll be one more team that's like, let's roll the dice.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Okay, but yeah, it was so obviously they, they, they benched him mostly because the contract is very similar to Derek Carthane last year, where it's like, we can't get this guy injured because going to have to pay him like $40 million. We can't risk that, especially because we were going to cut him. And I've never seen he had that report that he's gone from Denver, which I think we all knew. This also was like a very good test on the stats that you see compiled on Twitter and verse the eye test because you know there was that there's the meme going around that Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes to the same quarterback this year. And it's like, if you watch the Broncos, like they, yes, it was great that they turned it around, but it was a lot of smoking mirrors.
Starting point is 00:57:32 There's a lot of, you know, turnover lock. And Russell Wilson still had the same issues that he's had the last two years where it's like he can throw a deep ball that has like a 20% chance of getting completed. He can't move an offense down the field and he can't use his legs the same way. And then Sean Payton came and did an all time press conference where he was like someone asked him if Russell Wilson, it felt like Russell Wilson was getting all the blame. He's like, well, I can't cut five offensive linemen.
Starting point is 00:57:58 I can't change all my wide receivers. It just went through everyone of the bus all at once. Great, great job by Sean Feet. He was like, well, yeah, that's what a scapegoat is. That's why the quarterback position is the best because you can just be like, yeah, it is that guy's that guy's fault. And Russ, to his credit, he was better than Russ last year. So everybody was like, oh, maybe he's back. We spend a lot, a lot of time this year being like, oh, maybe old Russell Wilson is working his way back there.
Starting point is 00:58:27 But yeah, the math did not work in his favor. That's why if you give big money to a quarterback, then they're always gonna have in the back of their mind, like, oh, well, this is our biggest expense. What can we do to try to move on from this guy? Like a little bit too soon rather than a little bit too late. And I don't know how that works when they ask because it's a injury guarantee. So they want to make sure that he's healthy.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Did they give him a physical and then he passed the physical and they're like, okay, you're benched. A trick, physical. They're like, a trick, physical. That's what I want. Because if you're an NFL quarterback, you should a good agent should tell his client, if you ever get a physical done, like always say that something's really hurt. Yeah. And then tell coach, like, I'm going to play through it. Um, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:59:15 this is really killing me. Yeah, I think I think it might have been a fake physical. They did, they did the thing like I do with my kids, like the, their dentist offices right next to a toy store. So I'm always like, yeah, we're going to the toy store today. And I'm like, oh, we got to stop at the dentist office first. You think they do that to Russ? They like we're going to the subway right now. We're going to get a sandwich. You're like, oh, shit, before we get the foot long, we're just going to need you to sit up on this table and cough for us. Yeah. Sean Payton might have been like, hey, Russ, we're giving out big boy bonuses today.
Starting point is 00:59:45 If everyone's feeling good like a big boy, no pain at all, if you're a tough guy, then I'm giving you $100,000 cash on the table. You want to take your physical? He's like, yeah, coach, I'm feeling great. All right, you're best. This physical is literally just the, the pain chart, the zero to all, like 10.
Starting point is 01:00:03 The hits in every hospital room. The Russ, can you point up here where you, like zero to 10, Russ is like, oh, the zero to like 10. The hits in every hospital room. The rust. Can you point up here where you like zero to 10? Russ is like, oh, I'm like a one. Like, oh, great. You're benched. Yeah. Yeah. Pain was probably like, hey, um, I'm just doing a check on you
Starting point is 01:00:15 because I don't want you to get banged up. If you're hurt, I'm going to sit you because we value your long term health here. So I just want to make sure you're going into this next week that you're feeling good. Like you're ready to start because if you're not-term health here. So I just wanna make sure, going into this next week, that you're feeling good like you're ready to start because if you're not, just tell me, and we're gonna take care of you. He's like, no, no, I wanna start. I'm feeling great.
Starting point is 01:00:33 All right, tough news, you're betched. Yeah, cool, you answered that incorrectly. I also did love Sean Payton doing the classic coach speech where he's like, listen, if I'm bad at my job, I'm outta here too. Where he's like, listen, if I'm bad at my job, I'm out of here too. Where he's, you know, he's like, yeah, yeah, okay, Russ is scapegoat, but like, somebody, I'll get fired. It's like, okay, dude, we know that like, you basically have control in this whole organization for the foreseeable future and you're getting paid a ton of money. So,
Starting point is 01:01:01 of course, yeah, you can say that, but you're not getting fired. I'm sure he's been fired before, but just thinking back on his recent career, when was the last time Sean Peyton was fired? Yeah. Oh, let's look it up. By the way, because in in sad stats, since this is the end of the Russell Wilson era in Denver, he officially is finishing his career with Wilson era in Denver. He officially is finishing his career with less wins than toilets in his in his house. So it's 12 toilets in his house. He won 11 games for the Broncos in two years. That is very sad. But yeah, Sean Payton, he left the Saints on his own terms. I'm pretty sure he left what the Cowboys on his own terms. I guess he got, you know, he technically got fired is like a player. Um, he got fired, well, he got, he got, oh, he got fired by Andy Reed and the Eagles. Uh, well, that was
Starting point is 01:01:55 the switch over. So he was on the Eagles and then Andy Reed came in and they didn't retain his duties. So that's the kind of fired, right? So Sean Payton's like, you know, this is tough business. I know every day I wake up, I might get fired tomorrow. I mean, that same boat is de-rusting. Yeah, he basically, yeah, he's like 25 years ago, the Eagles brought in Andy Reed and they didn't extend my contract.
Starting point is 01:02:21 So I know exactly how this could happen. Yeah. Do you feel bad for Russell Wilson? Uh, hold on. Let me let me look up all the money he made. Let's see. Yeah, that really is a big part of it. I do feel bad for him. On paper, I feel bad for him. Um, but I also think there's a lot of this was his doing in his own. All right, so he, I guess I don't know how the rest of his contract, how much he's guaranteed, but let's just say he, like if he makes, I think he's going to make a bunch of this still. He's so far in his career made 266 million. If he makes the rest of his money, he makes 477 million.
Starting point is 01:03:01 So no, I do not feel bad. I feel bad for Russell Wilson the same way that I feel bad for internet explorer. Where it's like, it's, it's hanging around. It was very useful for a long time, but it's just sad to see it on a desktop somewhere. And you just never want to use it ever again. If, if you're using it at any point, you know that your job is not going well. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, or like I'd feel bad for like blockbuster. Like I was ashamed. Yeah. Like they really should have thought differently there. Yeah. It was it was fun to like walk to blockbuster on a snow day. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:40 And the smell it used to have when I was a kid. That was cool. I remember that. I remember blockbuster. So it makes me sad that it's not around. Right. Yeah. Like I remember Russell Wilson when he was fun. It was fun. He was fun to watch. But it does feel like a lot of this was his doing.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Like if you could go, if you could hit him with truce here, I'm like, hey, dude, maybe you should just stay in Seattle. Like you had it pretty good there. I know that, you know, Twitter got in your head a lot and said, rush and cook, but maybe it was a good idea that they always were trying to establish the run, you know, even though they couldn't. That was probably good. We'll always have the danger, which yeah, he definitely played himself out of a
Starting point is 01:04:20 Hall of Fame career, right? I don't know. That's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough.
Starting point is 01:04:38 And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to be tough. And that's going to. He had probably like seven, eight years left. So you were just projecting and I didn't disagree. I was just like, yeah, I mean, like,
Starting point is 01:04:48 if he just keeps being this good for a really long time, the way that the league is gone, all like the best quarterbacks quote unquote are gonna be in the last like 15 years. Yeah, and then when he left Seattle, that's when we all got to experience more of what Russell Wilson was all about and real up as a country where like that's too much Russell Wilson. And Seattle, he was nice. He was a little bit sheltered. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:13 The media up there was very friendly to him. We didn't get all the stories from March on Lynch about how they wouldn't talk to each other and how March on had to like call his agent to talk to him. And then all that's come out in the last two and a half. It was really, it started with the finger injury when he came back from the finger injury. And he was doing the simulated reps on the field. He was doing the fake high fives. That's when Russ turned bad. That's when he broke bad.
Starting point is 01:05:40 It's actually a really interesting hypothetical. How quickly would America have hated Russ Awil Wilson if he was drafted by the Giants? Great question. The New York media would have found that out right away. They would have been like, this guy is weird. And again, Russell Wilson is not a bad guy at all. He's just a weird guy. There's a big difference, I think.
Starting point is 01:06:04 Like, he's not, I know, that's where I would start to feel bad for him, because it's like, he's not, there's nothing about him that is like truly a bad person. I think he's just a weird guy who's like, he kind of is like, if, if, like Gary Vee became a starting quarterback, where you're like, all right, this is a little much. I don't know. I, I think if he was on the jets, we would have hated him from day one. They play a little bit nicer with the giants for whatever reason.
Starting point is 01:06:29 If he was the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys, America would have hated him in training camp his rookie year. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he was one of my favorite badger seasons, so I still have love for him there. But yeah, I guess to answer the original question, I'd say,
Starting point is 01:06:45 I feel 20% bad for Russell Wilson. And then if you show me how much money he's made, it goes down to 10%. Yeah, you show me a picture of his wife. And I'm like, he's doing okay. Yeah, he's having a fleece. He has a pretty good life. Okay. Last two games, Bengals and Chiefs. I think this is the get right spot for the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs are gonna beat them. I think the Chiefs, it's basically if Andy Reed, which is asking a lot, if Andy Reed can be like, hey, you know what we can do in this game?
Starting point is 01:07:15 Just run the ball, we'll be fine. Because, you know, we've talked about the Bengals defense is not that good. DJ Reader being out has been a really big problem. You saw it last week with the Steelers and Mason Rudolph and how they ran the ball. So if the chiefs are smart here, kind of like the Eagles, like just run the ball, run the ball, win the game by by two touchdowns and feel good about yourself. We've started to see a little resurgence of Clyde Edwards, he layer recently, which is
Starting point is 01:07:43 always good because he was a big time. What happened to that guy person? Yeah, I'd started to see a little resurgence of Clyde Edwards, he layer recently, which is always good, because he was a big time. What happened to that guy person? Yeah, I would like to see them run the ball too. I just don't know if the chiefs are capable of getting right. They might be so wrong that it's just, they might win ugly games, but I, I don't think that they're capable of flipping that switch and getting right. Oh, man, memes just sent this to us. PFT. It is from April 15, 2020,
Starting point is 01:08:04 Top 10 NFL quarterback since 1980. So this to SPFD. It is from April 15th, 2020, top 10 NFL quarterbacks since 1980. So this is peak COVID discussion. You had Russ at number nine, ahead of Patrick Mahomes. That feels like it was a troll. We need to, yeah. You had Mahomes 10 too. Yeah, but I had no one else like everyone else
Starting point is 01:08:23 that I had Mahomes. I didn't have anyone else who's current ahead of my homes. I had everyone whose career was over. Yeah, Steve Young ahead of my homes. Yeah, my homes would obviously get ahead of them. This was before you won a second Super Bowl, but I didn't have anyone else. I'm looking at contemporary against my homes. I'm looking at this list right now. I think we knocked out of the park. These are lists. I remember it vividly like you saying, Russ was like, uh, and then you kind of convinced me, but yeah, um, well, in 2020, where my home's done. Yeah, you had one soup rule. I mean, the fact we had my homes on this list is pretty crazy. It was super. Hank was going to have a big bed.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Look at Hank. Yeah, that's a portal. So I'm a great five. Oh, he had portals number three. Yeah, I didn't see that. Yeah. Yeah. So in Russell Wilson, there's nowhere near top 10 now.
Starting point is 01:09:18 That's a lot of football has happened since. No, nowhere near a top 10 now. No, where near. Uh, wait. So you, you like the Bengals or chiefs? I, if we're near a top 10 now. No, we're near. Wait, so you like the Bengals or chiefs? I, if we're talking spread, I like the Bengals, but I think the chiefs are going to win. They have to get right. They have to get right.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Okay, last game, Vikings Packers, cheering, Hall playing for the Vikings. No Hawkinson, no Addison, I believe. It feels like Kevin O'Connor, who's done a great job this year keeping this Hall playing for the Vikings. No Hawkinson, no Addison, I believe. It feels like Kevin O'Connell, who's done a great job this year keeping this team. Like, I do really feel bad for Vikings fans because this was, this was the year of Kirk Cousins, St. healthy. Like they would not have been fraudulent. They would have been, like, think about how wide open the NFL playoffs are going to be. The Vikings would have been absolutely live with Kirk cousins and the way he was playing. And now Kevin O'Connell is stuck with like his fourth quarterback trying to be like, maybe this is the spark. He's just searching for a spark
Starting point is 01:10:14 everywhere he goes. And it's Jaron Holster. Yeah. So the spread is Vikings minus one, right? Yeah, I think it was two and then Jaron Hall made it one. I love the Packers in this game. I know. I love them. Now, they are missing a key component on defense. Correct. Jari Alexander. And we should talk about what happened with him because this might be my favorite story of the second half of the NFL season. He is from Charlotte. They were planning to get to Kalein of Panthers, which Malphur probably didn't know. He might not have known. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:57 But Alexander nominated himself. He sent himself out onto the field as a captain before the game. And not only did he become self-adapted for that game without his coaches knowledge, but he also thought that since he's from Charlotte, to be fair, he's from Charlotte. From Charlotte. It was up to him to call the coin toss in the air. So he called the coin toss and then he incorrectly told the referee that they wanted the defense on the field instead of deferring possession
Starting point is 01:11:24 to the start of the second half. The ref stepped in and said, wait, what are you asking for and corrected him so that he didn't give them double possessions on kickoffs? I think we should investigate the refs because they let the Packers get away with that's that's a good point. But that this I agree with you. One of my favorite stories of the year him doing the press like press conference at his locker with the macho man Randy Savage glasses and just being like coach Noz from Charlotte like I was going up there and and everybody knows
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah, this TV is like dude, what are you doing? I put that on the other captains actually you got enough you have to nominate better captains and Empower them to take leadership when they see a fake captain going out with them to be like, no, no, no, you're not a captain. We talked about it last week with Rizuel Douglas and how that was probably the worst trade in season this year. Imagine if the Packers had traded Jaira, Alexander, they probably would have gotten a lot more form and they would have kept the the the cornerback who is can stay on the field and also is not crazy. I love this though. He's just who does that? Who's like, yeah, coach Charlotte. He probably didn't know us from Charlotte. So if he had known, then he definitely would have made me the captain, the speaking. Yeah. In fact, yeah, I mean, he's from Charlotte. Like he's got to get everyone.
Starting point is 01:12:45 He's he's from Charlotte. I don't know what I don't know what Matt look forward to thinking. Like the job. I blame Joe Barry for this act, actually. He said something about it. I had a lot of pastor. Also, it be about like they're like all we talked about at Christmas of Joe Barry. Did you know that Joe Barry was the, I think he was a defensive
Starting point is 01:13:06 coordinator on the Lions team that went on 16. Oh, he was well confidence coach too. On the redskins. Yeah. Yeah, it's, um, I like to pack our stew here, which is probably stupid because we, if both of us love, uh, aside, usually we're really dumb. Uh, okay, should we, should we do our picks then?
Starting point is 01:13:26 Let's do our picks. So I don't even know what the standings are. Does anyone know what the standings are? I think Hank's eliminated. I don't think he's officially eliminated you. I think I'm up two and a half points on him, three and a half. Okay. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:13:41 Okay. Jake didn't send us the standings. I'll ask him for the standings right now. Why don't we do, why don't we just say, let's just give Hank and Jake's picks. We'll give them their first picks and then we'll go from there. So Hank sent the picks to Max.
Starting point is 01:13:58 His picks to Max Max. What are Hank's picks? Patriots plus 13 Ravens dolphins over 47 and a half. Okay, so that's there is two picks and Jake's two picks are the bucks minus two and a half and the bears falcons under 37 and a half. So Max, you do want to go first and we'll go snake. Um, sure. I'm actually going to fade Hank. I like builds minus 13. Okay. Memes. I'm going to go Niners.
Starting point is 01:14:36 12 and a half. Okay. Okay. PFT. I'm going to take the Packers plus one. Okay. I am going to take, Packers plus one. Okay, I'm going to take so I got two here. I will go with the over in Rams Giants 43 and a half. And then I'm going to take the Cowboys minus five and a half. PFT. I'm going to take over in Houston, Tennessee, 43 and a half. Oh, Hank is eliminated. I have to stand.
Starting point is 01:15:16 Oh, it is. Yeah, Jake is at 20 and a half. Max is at 17 and a half. Memes is at 17. So Max and memes. This is very important. I mean, it's got to say that we should. What should we do another pick? It's the holidays.
Starting point is 01:15:29 What did you say, Max? I'm just going to lose on the last second on a, and historic fashion again in week 18. That's the only way it's going to go. It's going to be me and Hank getting punished again. It's going to be it. It is what it is. And then in the main show, it's I have 22 and a half points.
Starting point is 01:15:47 PFT of 20 Mac Hank has 15 and a half. So yeah, it's okay. Yes. Yeah. So if he wins four, he gets 19 and a half, you already beat him. All right. So memes and max. What are your picks? Because these are very important. I'm going to go over 44 in the bangles chiefs game. Okay. I've over 44 as well. I thought you're going to take my pick. I will go over 44 in Texans Titans. Oh, you did fucking it. And it's 43 and a half is what I'm looking at right now. Shit. You dick. I'll go over this game sucks. I'll go over 38 Falcons bears.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Ooh, we'll give you 37 and a half because that's what Jake has. All right, love it. 37 and a half. Uh, okay. Those are our picks. Let's do, we got hot sea cool thrones. We got hot sea cool thrones. We never show on Wednesday. Hot sea cool thrones brought to you by friends of course, light. Course, light helps you find moments to unlockwind big work presentation, follow it with a happy hour, some friends in a cold course light weekend chores, take saturday off and hit the tailgate, even if you don't have tickets to the game, whenever you need to hit reset reach for a course light, it's made to chill. There's only one beer out there that's literally made to chill and that's course light mountains on the bottles and cans even term blue when your beer is cold. That way you always know when it's time to chill. We need to hit reset. Just open a course light. It's mountain cold refresh rate made to chill.
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Starting point is 01:17:43 Oh, I like this on my flight out here to Arizona. Earlier this week, I happened to be on a plane that I had a layover in Los Angeles. And the connecting flight that I took into Phoenix was with the Oregon football team. And so they were all on the plane. They are so fucking big. They are huge. They're so strong. And 17 points is not nearly enough points. They're so strong and he's so strong. They're so strong. And they've got great haircuts.
Starting point is 01:18:13 They've got a bunch of mullets. They looked like they're ready to play. They were pumped up. They were high five. I was sitting next to this one guy who I think he was maybe, I'm gonna guess he was the mascot, either the mascot or like an equipment manager.
Starting point is 01:18:28 But every player that walked past him reached over to him and daped him up on the way back there. Wait, how are you, how are you on the same flight as the organ football team? It was a connecting flight in LA somehow that they also connected in LA to go to Arizona. Wait, were you, was there flight? Like you were on the same planetism? Yeah, that's crazy because I thought, like I saw a video on like sports
Starting point is 01:18:53 or at them getting off the flight. Did they do the weird, did you get off the flight like out of a gate or did you go down like the staircase? No, I got off the flight onto a gate and then walked like through the airport like normal person. Huh, that's crazy. I mean, that's cool.
Starting point is 01:19:09 There might maybe there were a couple guys that that didn't take that flight, but there were at least I'm going to say 25 or 30 Oregon football players on this. That even goes more to your point because it could have been like the the backups are non scholarship guys. And if they're big, whoo. Yeah. Yeah, well, maybe they're so big that they had to take two separate flights
Starting point is 01:19:30 because they would have overloaded the plane. They're so big. But I can tell you, I did not see Bonex. So I don't think that Bonex was on this flight, but they're so big. They're way bigger than Liberty. So this might just be because I saw a bunch of football players up close
Starting point is 01:19:46 And I'm like, oh these guys are way bigger than they look on TV. They look huge. So I'm hammering Oregon this weekend No, I was on a flight from Chicago to the Arizona with the Liberty team and they were just all stowed in the And in the overhead in the overhead. So I'm with you. Yeah, this seems to me like a big team against a little team. Also Liberty has dead last strength of schedule in all of college football. So I think Oregon's going to have something to prove.
Starting point is 01:20:16 And I think that most of Oregon's players are playing this weekend too. And then my cool throne is fullbacks. We're announcing the low-man trophy in the pregame, I believe, at the barstable. You can see it on the CW, same network as live, no big deal. We have a winner.
Starting point is 01:20:32 I've collected all the votes this week. We have a very special winner that we're looking to announce in that pregame show. I will tell you the three finalists right now for the best fullback in College Football. We did the long list earlier. Now it's been narrowed to three. The top three vote getters, Ernest Crownrohr from Texas A&M, Stone Ebi from SMU, and then Ben Senate from Kansas State. And we have a very special presentation, a legend in the fullback community will be presenting the award to them via video call.
Starting point is 01:21:07 But I'm excited to announce it. It's one of my favorite things that we do. Recognize the fullbacks. They're an unharbled a group of guys that don't get any of the shine. This is their time, the low-man trophy. I love it. I love it. So yeah, we have, so everyone do tune in.
Starting point is 01:21:21 It's going to be a great time. It's the lead-over swiom' main four o'clock eastern Saturday. I'll be doing the anthem. Pft will be in the pregame in the half time. I'll be on the call with Jake and Dave. It's going to be a great time. We had a great time last year doing it. It's going to be a great time this year doing it. It's it's always super funny when you get Jake in the booth with you and Dave because you guys have you guys you can you can tell which way you're leaning at certain times and Jake's always playing it like the straightest that you can possibly play it. It's a good dynamic. Yeah, I'm I'm a little nervous about this game because I have a Wyoming's coach is retiring and he's been there for a long time
Starting point is 01:22:01 and he's like an old salty coach. I kind of like him, but I obviously, my heart is with Toledo. We're friends with Jason Candle. We gave the the scholarship, the NIL deal. I want a national title there. I don't know what I'm going to do. I'm really, I'm really stuck. I'm really, really stuck. You get to make a special house divided shirt for yourself.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Toledo, Montana. Yeah. Wyoming. Yeah. Yeah. Wyoming. Yeah. Tune in for the first five minutes of the game. You'll figure out which side I bet.
Starting point is 01:22:30 Guaranteed. All right. My hot seat is John Moran because there's a story released today from Tom Havishra, who's actually, he's a great writer. But this one did make me laugh. His story was more about how there's like, basically, the beat writers are like, don't exist anymore. And like, it's a problem because
Starting point is 01:22:52 things aren't getting covered. But it was a story about how John Merent called the referee a hoe last year after a game. And I just, that headline maybe laughed so hard. I was just like, well, I mean, the ref was probably being a hoe if we're being honest, right? Yeah, which ref was it? That makes a difference to that. Right? Well, I had to look it up because I was like, wait, if it's a female ref, then obviously this is a,
Starting point is 01:23:15 no, it was a male ref, so we're good. Well, also like maybe it's possible that she was being a hoe too. Yeah, people, but we're supposed to be a hoe. We're asking a hoe. Yeah. That's a very funny story though. the whole to yeah people. People host rescue house. That's a very funny story though. Like this is why journalism is dying in America's because we didn't know the job
Starting point is 01:23:31 Miranda called this ref a hoe until just now. Yes. Yes. Yes. Oh, man. So and then my cool throne is, um, which I also, I love jaws. Celebrity that he did the night. He just took the finger guns out after a dunk. That that you think he was like happy after, that he did the night, or he just took the the finger guns out after
Starting point is 01:23:45 a dunk. That that you think he was like happy after did that, or it was just like muscle memory where he just did the guns and then he was, oh, fuck, that's the one thing that I shouldn't do. No, I think he's I think he probably like part of the therapy was like, you need to get it out some way. Like it's like, you know, people like people who are struggling with addiction, maybe might get addicted to something else, you know, like they might, you know, vapor, like exercise. So to yeah, exercise. Yeah, like do real estate deals, whatever it may be. Like this is this might be good for him.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Yeah, I would rather John Morampi waving his fingers around in the shape of guns than actual guns. This is it. We should be celebrating that as progress. Exactly, exactly. And my cool throne is bowl season. I was down on bowl season because of the NILs and the, and the, and well, actually not the NILs. I don't know why I said that. I sound like old man there. Actually, Minnesota, did you see that?
Starting point is 01:24:37 The story that Minnesota needed, they didn't have a quarterback. So they, their third string quarterback had just gotten engaged. He's like 25 and he was like, gonna go move to Arizona and start his life. And because they needed a quarterback, they paid him $30,000 in NIL money to play. And they won't like that. Yeah, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:24:58 But there's something about both season, every year it sucks me in. It's like you're sitting there, you know, in this weird, like Christmas to New Year's, like time doesn't exist. I've had to ask myself what date is every single day, but you're watching the Pop Tarte Bowl, like there's a bowl game, you know,
Starting point is 01:25:15 at Fenway Park today that looked miserable. The Miami just having to play in a cold weather city is like the easiest bet against every single year in bowl season, Rutgers just wanted it bet against every single year in bull season. Rutgers just wanted wanted it way more. So I love bull season. I'll never quit bull season. I know that people are down on it with the with the transfer portal and the opt-outs,
Starting point is 01:25:35 but I fucking love bullsees. The one thing we have to make sure to unlearn though is at the start of next year. If there's a quarterback that sucked in a bowl game, we can't automatically think this guy stinks. Yeah. Yeah. Which I'm not going to fight through on that. No, I don't agree to that. I made the only draft analysis.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Yeah, the only draft analysis I've ever gotten right was Paxson Lynch sucks, and that was based on a bulky. Yeah, but this is like, I'm saying this to make myself smart in the future, but I also know that I'm not going to take my own advice. Yeah. Don't just saying in this moment, well, I'm saying it right now. This is the smart thing to do.
Starting point is 01:26:13 Yeah. But I see even in this moment, I disagree. Okay. Your heart wants what the heart wants. Yeah. To make make decisions on on players and meaningless games. Okay. Let's get to our interview with Arnold Schwarzenegger awesome interview Great interview and Arnold's being brought to you by our good friends over at game time
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Starting point is 01:28:14 done it all. He's got a new book out. It's called Be Useful, Seven Tools for Life. So, Arnold, first of all, thank you so much for joining us. We're huge, huge fans of you. And this is a thrill for us. I wanted to start with the book, though. We're not very useful people. We're kind of bombs. So what in the book can you tell us that will help us being more useful in life? Well, first of all, it is a great pleasure to be on your show.
Starting point is 01:28:46 And I've admired your show. I think you guys are really entertaining. And I happen to disagree right off the top with you when you say you're not useful because the stuff that you do in the amount of entertainment that you play the people and fun stuff is really incredible. And so I think that you should call yourself useful. Now, if this is a question about how to be more useful, I think that I think everyone is striving for that. I always strive for that. You know, how can I be more useful? How can I be more successful?
Starting point is 01:29:17 How can I be happier? How can I be better in what I do in order stuff? That's what makes us really have an exciting life to always strive for being better. And that's what makes it also fun to get up in the morning when you have a mission. I want to be better. I want to train harder. I want to get better shape. And you know, I want to have more effect on our community and what I do in order stuff. And that's I think what the book is about is inspire people. How to be better and how to be you know great not to be happy because when you think about that there's 78% of the people in America hate their jobs so you know that that's not a good statistic and I think that we can do
Starting point is 01:29:59 better than that. I always loved everything that I did even though I had my losses and my downfalls and my good times and my victories and all of that stuff. But I always loved what I was doing. And so I want to make sure that people can read about the seven tools that I used, how to be more successful and how to really feel good about the stuff that I do and where you feel like you know you marching in the right direction. I do think seven tools is an accurate way to describe this podcast too. We might not be as useful as you but what would you say would be like the most important tool. I think that vision, I put this number one in my book, be useful because I think that vision is the most important thing. If you don't have a very clever vision of what you want to accomplish in life,
Starting point is 01:30:53 and if you don't have a very clever vision where you want to go, you don't have anything. You're just kind of drifting around. And I see this with a lot of people when they don't have a goal or a specific kind of a mission or purpose to get up for in the morning. You know when you get up in the morning you have to have a purpose you know to know what you're gonna do in life or that day that makes it fun. I think if you don't have that you drift around and you get lost. And I think this is what happens to a lot of young people and even older people. And so what
Starting point is 01:31:31 I'm trying to do is just show them how do you create a vision and tell them the story about how when I was in a 10 years old, I had a very clear vision of coming to America. When I was 15 years old, I had a very clear vision of becoming a bodybuilding champion and being the greatest bodybuilder of all time. And then laid on on how I wanted to get into movies and be a leading man in the movies. And all of those kind of things is accomplished because I had a very clear vision.
Starting point is 01:32:01 I saw it, I kind of see it, believe it, achieve it. You know, that old saying. And I saw that how it works firsthand. And I used to be everything that I did. And it really worked. And so this is just one out of seven tools. You have a very clear vision. Another one I think it's very important is, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:24 not to listen to the next stage, because you could have a very clear vision. Another one that I think is very important is, you know, not to listen to the next stage because you could have a very clear vision and you tell this to people, you say, look, I wanna be a great actor. I wanna be a leading man and they say, oh, that's stupid. I mean, you're never gonna make that. There's the one thing, Hollywood is gonna wait for you
Starting point is 01:32:38 in order to say, so I heard all of those things. Well, you wanna come to America? This is crazy, you wanna go to America because what do you think they're gonna wait for you? Did they need another person over there? They're never going to happen. When I said I want to be a bodybuilding champion and they say, oh no, Austria has ski champions. Yeah. You know, we have bicycling champions. We have track and field champions, soccer champions, but we don't have bodybuilding champions. That's an American sport. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:33:07 This will never happen. So it was always no, no, no. Everything was always impossible. But even when I got into movies, I remember in the 70s, they said you would never make it in the movies. You would never be a leading man because you have an accent and you have to sober develop body that is not in now in the 70s, the little guys that they in and then you have to name what's negative, you have to change that.
Starting point is 01:33:32 So forget about it. Yeah, I was always no, no, no, but that didn't listen to them. They says, I had my own vision and I had my own goal and I said, I'm going to say, okay, if it is so difficult to climb that ladder, then I just gonna create my own ladder, and I'm gonna climb that, and I'm gonna make it up there, in the middle of what? Yeah. You did a great job. I did read that when you started acting that your name was not Arnold Schwarzenegger,
Starting point is 01:33:56 it was Arnold Strong for your first couple of movies. How did you come up with that name? No, the producer did. I hated it because I remember when I did the movie Hercules in New York, which is a movie that my first movie ever went right in the toilet. And they changed my name to Arnold Strong. But then when I did the next project like with Lucille Ball, happy anniversary and goodbye, which was a TV show that she did a two-hour special with Art Connie. Then there was Arnold Schwarzenegger again, then for Steyn
Starting point is 01:34:37 Hungary it was Arnold Schwarzenegger again pumping on. So all of these other projects after that was Arnold Schwarzenegger because I thought it was stupid to change the name for what. after that was Arnold Schwarzenegger because I thought it was stupid to change the name for what? I mean, you know, the idea and that was absolutely right. The aid that the body worked on the end because I remember when we did Conan, the Baparian, John Millius, the director said, hey, if we wouldn't have had Schwarzenegger, we would have had to build one. Because it was the only one that really had the muscles to play Conan, the Baparian. There was no one around to play that character. Yeah. Right. So that's why they never really filmed it. And so then when I did terminator, Jim Cameron said, Hey, what's
Starting point is 01:35:14 Nega? If he wouldn't have had his accent and him talking like a machine, this would have never worked of him playing a machine. You know, so there always then the accent was welcome. Yeah. And so and then laid on with the name as fast the name was concerned, it was like, always then it became hip to keep your name with the idea that if you if people cannot, you know, pronounce your name or remember your name, but the time they learn it, they would never forget it. So there was the idea. So, you know, announce your name or remember your name, but the time they learned that they would never forget it So there was the idea so you know people like Chino Lolo Prichita and the actresses and actors like that We complicated names kept the name and it became fashionable to keep your name
Starting point is 01:35:56 It's it's your career is amazing because I watched the documentary which was great everyone should go watch it You kind of alluded to it that you set out to do all these things and you just, you went out and accomplished them. Like Mr., you know, Olympia and then the movies and then politics. Like you basically were like, I'm gonna go do that and then I'm gonna, I did it. So was there ever a moment because I think in life, there's a lot of times, you know, successful people can,
Starting point is 01:36:23 sometimes forget like the failures or the points where you almost gave up. Was there ever a lot of times, you know, successful people can sometimes forget like the failures or the points where you almost gave up. Was there ever a moment that you said, like, all right, I'm done. I'm, this isn't going to work out because it does feel like everything you set out to do, you just did, which is so inspiring. Well, on the end, I didn't, but on the way there, yes, there's always failures. I remember in bodybuilding, I lost the first few bodybuilding competitions I remember that the first Mr. Universe contest I went to in 1966, I lost against an American, but the name of Czech Duotin, who was the Miss America and then he won Mr. Universe. So I was 19 years old, it was okay With the age of 20, I went back to the Mr. Universe Condition that wanted and
Starting point is 01:37:07 that became the youngest Mr. Universe ever. And then after that, you know, I was winning and winning and winning. And then there was another obstacle. I remember in the Miss Olympia competition, there was Sergio Lever, who was an extraordinary Cuban kind of bodybuilding champion that now lived in Chicago and he was unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:37:27 So he beat me. 1969 he won Mr. Olympia in Ikems II. But the following year I went back and I won against him in 1970. So, you know, on a way up there, yes there were losses in powerlifting, losses in weightlifting, losses in bodybuilding. And I was a pulmonary gerumum, I wonder that the race for governor, and then literally like a year later, there was a special election that would be held here in California, where
Starting point is 01:38:01 I wanted to get certain things passed by the people. And all those four initiatives lost. Because the people basically sent a message to me, say, don't come to us with your problems. We elected you to work with the legislators, so you work it out with them. And so they voted it down. And again, was a huge defeat. And people say, oh, in 2006, a year later, he's going to lose the governorship. And but I came back again. You know, I told the people
Starting point is 01:38:33 are, yeah, there was a mistake that to have four initiatives like this and a ballot that should work with the legislators. And the people forgave me for it. And then I came back and I won with 57% of the votes. I won the governorship the second time. And so, yes, there are losses along the way and setbacks along the way. And I don't forget them. Because the fact is, we learn, sometimes even more from the failures than we do from the successes. Yeah. And so we have to be very honest. When you fail, you have to be very, very honest. And you have to say, you know, I fucked up. Yeah. Here's what I did wrong.
Starting point is 01:39:18 And then analyze it and take the plane for it. And then not kind of like blame someone else for it and say, wait, it's his fault and she's here for it and this fault, not for no, you've got to go and just look in the mirror and say, you fucked up and he is what he did wrong and then just write that down and then deal with that and improve on it the next time. So this is exactly what I have always done and then I had a failure like that. That's a great answer. Yeah. Yeah. Just admitting your fuckups goes a long way if you're being honest to me. Oh, absolutely. You've got to be honest and just say, you know, I did something wrong here because otherwise
Starting point is 01:39:51 you would never learn. Yeah. You never learn. If you don't admit it and just recognize you, the problems that you had, I mean, you would never learn. Yeah. You brought up the, uh, the governorship, the governor, which was an awesome nickname unbelievable that you had. I mean, how could you vote against the governor?
Starting point is 01:40:07 You had like a built-in campaign slogan there, especially for re-election. So, uh, there's another movie star that's, I think, getting into politics, kind of followed, I guess you could say like a similar trajectory to yourself, different a little bit, but, um, the rock, Dwayne Johnson. I feel like, I feel like he's priming us to get into politics at some point. Have you reached out to him? Have you talked to him about a future in politics? No, no, I've known him for many, many years and he and I are friends and he has been kind enough when I ran for governor and then became governor to take over the
Starting point is 01:40:48 after school program movement that I was in charge of that I started, you know, 30 years ago, after school all stars. So he was the honorary chair for a year and they'll be found somebody else, you know, to do it. And he did a great, great job. He was very, very helpful. And he was very helpful with my race for governor and everything like that. So we have been really been communicating and I've admired his career. And certainly he's an extraordinary human being with a tremendous amount of willpower and multiple talents,
Starting point is 01:41:20 you know, someone that is so well dressed in wrestling and then in acting, show business and all of that. I mean, you know, he's really, really talented and so I'm very happy for him. And if you ever, you know, reaches across the and wants to go and get out of acting and go into politics and I'm wasn't happy to talk to him about that if he needs or wants any advice from me. Yeah, the I wanted to talk to you a little bit about your movies. So we're children of the 90s. So you were a seminal part of our childhood. The first question I have about your movies when you were doing Terminator 2. The first question I have about your movies when you were doing Terminator 2, did you at any point realize that you are going to scare an entire country of children with T1000 and then actually in a weird way like I grew up being like Arnold Schwarzenegger would save my life if I ever get a robot that's coming after me because T1000 was the scariest thing I've ever seen in my life. And you, you sit, you,
Starting point is 01:42:25 take full, you were there to save the day. Well, I mean, I, I have to say that Jim Cameron, the director who wrote, you know, a, Terminator II and Terminator I of course, too, in order, and directed it, he, he really came up with this concept.
Starting point is 01:42:45 And I remember that when he came to me and he says, in this movie, you will play the good guy. And I said to myself, why is he doing that? It worked so well in the first one when I was reading the machine, the bad guy that just destroys everything. Why would he want to change that? And so I had kind of a negative attitude about it
Starting point is 01:43:11 until I read the script. When I read the script, I got it. And I just thought he did such a brilliant job with that, how he turned that whole thing around and how he had determined it to come back to actually save humanity and the human race and not the machines. And how he then created this T1000.
Starting point is 01:43:37 I kind of played the outdated model, the T800. So then there was the T1000 that could do all kinds of additional stuff that I could not do. And so it was a real, real threat. And I think that's what created the suspense in the movie and why it became the most popular movie that year. It was the number one box of his success not only domestically, but also in the nationally. You know, I can't even take the credit for it because Jim Cameron really has to get all the credit for that because he created the characters and he directed it. So he was really the genius of this whole thing. Isn't incredible movie. Also, how often do people ask you to say get to the chopper?
Starting point is 01:44:21 I know that's a different movie, but day to day. Well, I mean, it's like the people when I ride the bike through the streets in Santa Monica, or Venice, I mean, people call out many times, scream loud, get to the chopper. And I said, that's really funny, you know. Put the cook it down.
Starting point is 01:44:43 And I said, you know, someone will come up, the manager says, I'll be back in a very dramatic way. So, so, you know, people throw my movie lines around all the time. I can, I hear it all the time. And the funny thing about it is, I tell you guys, that you never really know When you do the movie that this is going to be a very much quoted Movie line that people are gonna like that and they're gonna repeat it over and over nor else if you don't know I've been in my mishat. I'll be back in term in the other one
Starting point is 01:45:19 We did not know that anyone is gonna repeat that line. Uh-huh, and The same thing was you know, we get to the chopper. We get to the chopper. I think people just think it's funny because I don't say chopper. You know, we done on and I just say chopper. And so they imitate that when they scream loud on the street. Get to the chopper. You know, so the funny thing is just the way I pronounce things that makes it then funny
Starting point is 01:45:48 and that's why people do it. It's memorable. They're like so memorable. Yeah, that's the part. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Yeah. I mean, Terminator 2 was a great film. I, again, like I'm a little bit nervous interviewing you just because I've seen you so much and you were such like a big part of my childhood. As a guy that played Terminator, you were like first on the scene for SkyNet What are your actual feelings on AI were you thinking like AI is going to actually destroy the world? Well interestingly that when I filmed Terminator 1
Starting point is 01:46:20 I really looked at that as a purely science fiction type of a movie. Then we went on with time, decade after decade, always then I realized oh my god, we are actually going in that direction. And what Jim Cameron wrote about is going to happen. You know that the machines are now so sophisticated, so far ahead of human way of thinking that they are so far ahead. And now the big fears, you know, how do you make sure that they become self aware, like, intimidated too, and where the machines take over. You know, so this is, I think, the fear that everyone has, where is this gonna lead, and how do we still control all of this,
Starting point is 01:47:11 and how can we stop it from getting to that point? You know, so that is, that's why I always said that Terminator 1 was written so brilliantly by Jim Cameron that originally was kind of like a B-movie, you know, an action movie. But then when the movie came out, they realized, wow, this is intellectually speaking, I mean, really a very sophisticated movie. Not just an action movie, the action is there, yet it's the visual kind of feast, but the meaning behind all of that and the writing behind it and what it meant,
Starting point is 01:47:58 I mean, that's why I think Time Magazine, for instance, depicted as one of the 10 top movies of the year and then normally never pick an action movie like that. So I think that people really were celebrating the brilliant writing and the sophistication of the script that Jim Cameron wrote at that time. It also taught us that if that ever happens, we just need Arnold. Yeah, we just need to call him David. David, yeah, personally, and you'll start. That's it. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:48:18 To a bunch of kids, you were like the true hero. Are you, I don't, I assume you're still lifting. What do you to do it every day. This is what sets off the day. My day starts out by feeding the animals, you know, my pig and my three dogs and my miniature donkey and my miniature pony and all those animals that come into the house and they feed them and then they all go out and they have a good time. It's really funny. Then after that, I've done that,
Starting point is 01:49:09 that takes usually an hour. Then after that, I go to the gym and then I go down and then I work out and then I come back into my work. Do you still go for like max on anything? Do you still bench? Just draw it? No. No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:49:25 I mean, I had my first hard surgery in 1997. And so after the hard surgery, I was advised not to kind of lift dead heavy anymore. And so I then did more reps and less weight because I didn't want to kind of like put extra pressure on the valves. You know, I had to replace my ordinary valve and my pulmonary valve. So they said don't put any additional pressure on that those valves. Otherwise, they would not last for 15, 20 years, which they will, if you don't lift any heavy weights. And so I was very lucky. I was like, you know, the last of like, you know, 25 years, almost.
Starting point is 01:50:14 And because I listened to the doctors and I was watching a little bit more where they eat, I don't eat as much meat anymore. Even though I love it, you know, make mistakes every so often and eating finished knitzel and all this stuff. But I mean, I've cut down around 70% of my meat intake, which is better for the heart and for your health. And that's it. You know, so I just, I listen to the doctors. Yeah. Yeah. Do you, this is a random name. you might not know who I'm about to say but Do you recognize the name Steve Mahalik at all? Sure, what he was mr. America
Starting point is 01:50:53 back in I think in the 70s or a beginning 80s. Yeah, yeah, did you ever work out with him? Do you ever pat? Yeah, I worked up he he was always known for his wide shoulders and Yeah, I worked up here. He was always known for his wide shoulders and for his great, great build. I mean, he, interesting enough, he was one of those typical American bodybuilders that you know, they had kind of the wide shoulders, just small waist.
Starting point is 01:51:19 He was good looking. He just, whenever he went to the Miss Universe, kind of, this people knew, oh, this is the American, he just, whenever he went to the Mr. Universe, kind of, this people knew, oh, this is the American. Yeah. He knew all religions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:32 He was fantastic. Incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:40 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. great guy. An incredible strength, he trained with him. So he's, you know, it's, I'm just fascinated with the bodybuilding and just, I mean, it's, it's crazy to watch
Starting point is 01:51:52 because you said it's like an addiction. How, like when you felt at your peak, how good did you feel every day? Like, is it, do you think about that? Do you think like, man, when I was 19, 20 years old and I was at my absolute peak, like I just walk around and felt good every day. Yeah, I think it is, I mean, it really is a great feeling, you know, to be strong. It's a great feeling to have energy. I was running
Starting point is 01:52:19 every day in a deep sand before working out and sometimes after working out. And you just feel like you know King Kong. Yeah. It was great. And to be able to lift these weights, I mean, I was dead lifting then I was 700 pounds and I was bench pressing with over 500 and squatting with over 600. And since then, you know, I was competing in power lifting also and in all of big lifting and weight lifting. So I mean, I felt Fantastic and I felt I think I think this is the thing that I'm talking about in You know, it's to be useful is how important it is to be to something physical. Yes, you know, you train really hard. It doesn't just have to be bodybuilding. Anything where you exert and you do something that you feel like really productive, you're productive. And you've done something for yourself. You've got a great shape because of
Starting point is 01:53:15 this training and all this. It doesn't matter what it is, you can walk up Mount Everest and climb up there. It makes you feel good that you have accomplished something really great. And I think it gives you a positive attitude. And I see, for instance, when I go to the gym in the morning, you know, I feel like, okay. But then after the workout and I basically back, I feel great. It feels like you're going from a black and white movie to a color movie, you back, I feel great. It feels like you're going from a black and white movie to a color movie, you know, over said, because it's just the way you see things over said, in a much more positive way. And this is why I say to people, I said, the working out is not just to get a bigger bicep or
Starting point is 01:53:57 bigger delts and bigger pectoral muscles and abs, you know, it's just what it does. Also psychologically mentally for you. It just it gives you such a boost and This is something why I say I'm addicted to working out because I have to do it every day and it makes me feel good Yeah, you get that or if it's going. I mean the the famous quote from from pumping iron it feels like you're coming You're coming all the time when you're working out. Yes. You still get that feeling? Well, that was more, I've progressed to this stance. So you did feel like you were coming. I've been working out trying to come. I've been waiting to come. I've been trying to come for 15 years in the gym
Starting point is 01:54:36 and I've never got there. I thought there was something wrong with me. No, I don't think everything is okay with you. Everything is okay with you. No, but you have to understand that in those days to go and to get in a big story written as a bodybuild. As a football player, you could get any story written or as a tennis player or baseball player. You could get any story written that you wanted to. But as a bodybuild, it was very, very difficult. So you had to be kind
Starting point is 01:55:05 of like really way out there of the things that you say. So it's quotable. And then people say, Oh my God, I got the right story on this guy. This guy just said, you know, he's coming all the time. He's coming in the gym, coming up. He's coming back stage. He's coming at home. And then mean, this is like unbelievable. And so then they wrote the story. So it actually made it. And my goal was actually right. And you know, it may take on it.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I mean, I always knew how to sell. That's why one of the chapters in my book, be used for these cells, cells, cells. Because it's all about how do you sell something. So I went and met Muhammad Ali. I was so excited about talking to him because he was the person that was selling boxing in the 70s more than anyone. And there was such excitement when he fought because he was Muhammad Ali and he was more than just a fighter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:07 And the way he talked, his poetry, how generous he was, how he gave his money away and you know, his religion and everything was just interesting about him. And that's him. He said, well, I want to be the Muhammad Ali of bodybuilding. I want to really not only lift weights for myself, but I want to lift the entire sport. How can I do that? And so I even hired a publicist
Starting point is 01:56:33 for one of the competitions that we had out here, the Franco-Columbu and I organized, called the Missed in the National. And this publicist got us on talk shows and interviews and the magazines and loose papers. But we knew that he had to say outrageous things so that people go and write about it. And it worked 100%. Yeah, it did. Yeah, really did. You had me fooled.
Starting point is 01:56:56 It did. And it also made sense. Because like this guy's just pumping so much iron. Like he looks as muscles are enormous. I just, you know, I would feel I've never felt as good like waking up that, like in your entire life, you've probably felt better every single day than I have ever felt. So I aspire to be like that. Very nice.
Starting point is 01:57:16 So that means that you're working out every day. I'm not, I need to. I need to do something physical every day. Use my mind. I need to do something physical. Aren't I? I had a question about, you were talking about like reading a script and being like,
Starting point is 01:57:28 this is a very good script. I think it's gonna be a great movie. I think that there are a lot of movies that you're in where you completely, you elevate the movie to being a classic. Like I'm thinking predator, I'm thinking commando, I'm thinking all the terminators you in. But when you're reading a movie, are you imagining yourself as that character,
Starting point is 01:57:48 or what about a script that come across your desk? Do you look at, and you're like, yes, this is a very good, this is a good project for me to be involved with. Yeah, so I read it of course with me in mind, when someone sends me a script and says, I wanted to play in a max in this movie. So then you of course, you visualize yourself playing that character and the way it's written
Starting point is 01:58:11 and all that stuff. But to me, the important thing is always, you know, how great is the action in the script, how great is the story itself? Does it have any emotional value? It goes up and down the emotions in order. Does it have any kind of sense of humor in there? And this is a story that will sell worldwide. Because I'm not interested in just doing the project for one country.
Starting point is 01:58:42 That's America. You know, to me that is great to doing the project for one country. That's America. You know, to me, that is great to entertain the American people. It's my number one goal because that's where most of the money is in box office, on TV and so on. But I also have to think at the same time about, you know, is this something that we sell well, you know, in South Africa or in the Middle East
Starting point is 01:59:03 or in Australia or in Asia and stuff like that. So I always try to think, I've always been a global person because in bodybuilding you travel around the world, say I always felt kind of like I should entertain the world, not just one country. And I think it used to be back in the 70s and 80s, or in the beginning of the 80s, the studio is always kind of frowned upon that idea. Because they said the only three places that they're important are America, Japan, and Germany.
Starting point is 01:59:39 That's where we sell most of our tickets. And they said, well, I said, but it's a limited way of thinking because you should actually groom the audience in other countries as well. And that just gets stuck with those three countries. And they didn't understand it when I said, I wanted to colon the barbarian. I want to promote it in 10 different countries.
Starting point is 02:00:01 They said, well, we don't have 10 countries to go to. I said, bullshit. As it created, as the movie is coming out in France, the movie is coming out in England, in Germany, in Austria, in Holland, in Finland, in Denmark, in Sweden, in Italy, in Spain, in all those places. They said, so I want to go there. And I want to promote myself, and I want to promote the movie. Yeah. And they said, well, no actor has ever done that. I said, well, I care what my actor did or not did. I said, I always break new grounds.
Starting point is 02:00:34 I said, that's my mission in life. I never wait for someone else to show me the way. I show the way. Yeah. And so they sent me to those countries. And then after it's when I came back, they said, Oh my God, this is amazing. You know, we doubled the income that the ticket sales that we thought we're going to make because you were there in those countries. I said, well, hello, of
Starting point is 02:00:59 course. And so I always promoted my movies internationally and I always kind of looked at it as an international marketplace, international marketplace rather than just domestic marketplace. And I think it all has to do with it. I was more international thinking coming from Europe, from Austria. And number two, because I studied economics in college, and there was very clear that there is a growing in the national kind of a marketplace and everything, and that we would be in a global economy
Starting point is 02:01:37 eventually. And so this was now in the 70s, I'm talking about. And exactly that's the direction we went. And so I'm so happy that they did travel around in the national and promoted my movies. The same is with the book be useful at the same thing because they're in and they go to other countries Germany, Dostoe and stuff like that to promote the book in the national because I wanted to sell in the national. Yeah, so this has been an incredible Arnold. It's like a thrill for us and we should go buy your book be useful
Starting point is 02:02:05 Seven tools for life We had a couple last quick questions. I'll do the rowback question real quick RHO back.com use promo code take 20% off your first purchase Qzips polo's hoodies joggers shorts everything great workout gear Rowback.com promo code take Maybe this has been done, but this is just an idea, free idea for you for a documentary, whichever one should go watch your documentary that came out a few months ago.
Starting point is 02:02:30 But Schwarzenegger Versa-Lone was one of the best rivalries because the world just got bigger movies and bigger guns and more action. And the fact that you guys ended your rivalry by investing in a planet Hollywood together is the most 90s story possible. Maybe we get that? Like, would that be, it was, it was, it was a fun time.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Do you look back on it even though there was some real bad blood? Like look back on it and be like, you know, that was, that was kind of good for the audience. Well, it was also good for us. Yeah. Yeah. was also good for us. Yeah, yeah, remember that that that is the loan by being so good made me better. So he gets kind of like a competition. If you go to the Olympics and you're the only one that is running the 100 meter sprint, you know, you're not going to get the performance out of it as if a bunch of guys are
Starting point is 02:03:23 chasing you. And so it's always kind of the performance out of it as a bunch of guys are chasing you. And so it's always kind of the competition that creates performance. And so, Simone, but being good, made me better. And by me getting better, made him better. And so we kind of drove each other up and up and up in making one more money in a box office, using bigger and bigger knives, killing one more people on the screen and using bigger and bigger guns and all of this crazy stuff. And, you know, but one thing
Starting point is 02:03:51 was always clear, they'd be respected each other. Yeah. I always respected him for his talent he had in directing his talent yet in writing, his talent you had in acting and in all of those kind and also in painting and other things like that. So in here respects to me. So now of course when we did our planet Hollywood deal and we became partners in a planet Hollywood deal, then we really started hanging out together, flying around the world and promoting the restaurant chain and we had a great, great time. You can't great friends. We need the documentary.
Starting point is 02:04:28 Is it great, right? We need the documentary. I don't know how many debates have happened all over America back in like 1994, like Arnold Schwarzenegger could kick Slice to Loan's ass. No, he couldn't. Like that was actually like a talking point
Starting point is 02:04:40 that we would have. We'd sit down and debate that. For the record, I think you would have kicked his ass. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm going to take that as a yes. Me. I'm going to take that as a yes.
Starting point is 02:04:53 You would have had a great battle. Yes. Yes. Was there a movie where you went to and you're watching Sly and you're like, you know what? That is a very cool gun that he has. I need to make a note of that and we need that gun with a modification when I come back in my next film because I can't let him out gun me. Well, every movie that slide did, I just watched it a few times and then I just called the
Starting point is 02:05:18 guys, the prop guys and the movie, my next movie said, okay, watch this movie and get me bigger guns. I said it was not even a modification. I remember the slide in Rambo, ran around with a gun, a machine gun down there is arm. And I said, guys, I want a machine gun that is mounted on a tank or that is mounted on a helicopter that I am using. And so that's exactly what they then created. It was total madness. And they said, what kind of a... I called the prop gas.
Starting point is 02:05:54 They were kind of a knife to the use in this movie. And they said, well, it was like a 12-inch blade. And they said, I want every 24-inch blade. It's like... It was always like out doing each other. And I think there was the fun of this all. Yeah, Iron Truck was on. It's great.
Starting point is 02:06:11 It's great. Well, Arnold, thank you so much. One anecdote, I did actually meet you at one point in 2014. It's probably one of my favorite brushes with a celebrity story that I tell. I saw you in Santa Monica outside of a hotel, and I asked you for a picture, and you smiled and said, sure, no problem.
Starting point is 02:06:28 And then just didn't break stride and got right in your car. And I was like, that was the coolest thing ever. So we never got the picture, but it was awesome. Well, I mean, but that's the same thing. Because when I say yes, you can take the picture, then you just go and I have to take it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:45 Because if you would stop every single time, I can get to my car. Yes, it was it was perfect. So I there's some people that gave it the program right away. So they walk in front of me, have the camera, then they just take a picture of us together as we walk and then they get the picture. Yeah. But the people would say, oh, he didn't stop. Well, he didn't say stop. Yeah. They can take a picture and I said, yes, you can take a picture. But he didn't say stop and take the picture because I was a little bit here. No, let's walk and take the picture. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:07:17 It ended to the same time. Yeah. No, it was I loved it. I love every second of it. But the next time the next time you come out here, I will not stop. I love it. But the minute just yeah, I'll run with you. Yeah, you worked together. Yeah, yeah. I think so. I really did like I told everyone it.
Starting point is 02:07:34 I was like, but that was the coolest thing ever. Because he was like so effortless. You were just like, sure, no problem. And just kept on going. I was like, that was awesome. I love Arnold. That's funny. Yeah, that's awesome. I love Arnold
Starting point is 02:07:47 All right, anyway, it was great to talk to you guys You're doing a great job. Keep it up. Okay, and we do it again. Yes. Yes. We'll come visit you We'll come and do it in person next time. Yeah, get a workout Yeah, and you come to Gold's Jim. Yes, yeah, thank you. We do you show out of Gold's Jim. I love it We'll absolutely do it. Yes, I'm in 100. We'll be do you show out of gold. Jim, I love it. We'll absolutely do it. Yes. I'm in 100. Yes. All right. Thank you so much, Arnold.
Starting point is 02:08:09 Okay. Let's wrap up with FireFest the week. Brought to you by our friends at rowback. PFT is wearing the rowback hoodie right now. Rowback.com promo code Tink. Use it right now. 20% off your first purchase. Q's this.
Starting point is 02:08:22 Poles hoodies joggers shorts everything rowback.com. It is the best clothes out there. Most comfortable clothes out there. Roback.com promo code take. So my robot question of the week is PFT. What's your fire fest? Oh, good question. My fire fest of the week is I've been on extended trip here. I went home, uh, north of Virginia for Christmas. Now I'm out in Arizona, been traveling around a lot, driving, staying in different places. I packed at the last minute when I left initially to go to Virginia. I thought I threw in everything that I needed for this trip, but you know as well as I do when you pack for a trip,
Starting point is 02:09:01 you always forget one item. What would be the one item that you would want to make double sure that you packed enough of? Yeah, you went robot voice there, say it again. What would be the one item that you would want to make doubly sure that you packed enough of? Underwear. Underwear, yeah, correct.
Starting point is 02:09:21 Underwear, I believe I packed like five pairs of underwear and I would I just grabbed a whole bunch of them I was like this seems like this seems like the right amount of underwear So as of right now as I'm speaking I'm out of underwear So I have to try to go find some more underwear tomorrow to buy that's been a pain in the ass And also I've all I realized on this trip just how I how to shape I am. And I'm going to chalk some of it up to altitude because I went up to the Grand Canyon yep a couple days ago. Did a hike Grand Canyon fantastic. Awesome. Five stars, five balls. tremendous review for the Grand Canyon. Great job, God. I walked, I did a four mile hike.
Starting point is 02:10:00 So you go down and I went down about two miles and I was like, oh, this is pretty easy. Two miles, this is nothing. I'm barely even sweating right now. And then I turned around and started walking back up. And after about, I'd say 30 seconds, I realized what a big, big mistake I'd made. Not factoring that going uphill is going to be way, way harder than going downhill. So my body, my lower body has completely revolted against my upper body. And it's sore like first day of squat sore. So I'm in bad physical shape right now. But I also did get to say to myself, well, I can eat whatever I want. So I'm going to eat a bunch of steak, get that protein in. So I'm out of shape. And then I'm also getting fatter because
Starting point is 02:10:41 I'm eating more because I think that I just worked out. When in reality, I did a normal workout and now I'm like, oh, that was such a hard workout that now I get to treat myself. So, double whammy. That is a double whammy. I have a reverse for you for the underwear thing and this is, this shouldn't be a complaint,
Starting point is 02:11:00 but it is because I'm just gonna complain about it. I'm also in Arizona and I took my family down here for the week because I was playing, but it is because I'm just gonna complain about it. I'm also in Arizona and I took my family down here for the week because I was like, if I have to work during Christmas, New Year's week, like I don't want to be away for my family for a whole week when we have a week off. So we're all down here and we got here and there's a washer and dryer in the place that I rented. That's also a really bad feeling because being like,
Starting point is 02:11:24 I could have just worn the clothes being like, I could have just, I could have just worn the clothes I wore. I could have just not packed. I would have just not packed. I overpacked by so much. We have a simple guy. Like I could have done a backpack and I would have just done the laundry
Starting point is 02:11:36 like twice I would have been fine. You do load every night. Yeah, but like really, when if you have a washer and dryer, you need maybe three pairs of underwear and then like up one pair of pants and like two sweatshirts and you're good. Yeah, so that's very true. I've thought about doing the hotel laundry concierge thing and then you look at the price for those and it's like I could do like four days of laundry and that's gonna run me like 200 bucks. Yeah, you can just buy new underwear for one. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna buy a new underwear. All right, the very least turn the ones that I have inside out.
Starting point is 02:12:10 Yeah, no problem. All right, my fire fest is, it's something that happens every time around this year, but it is gonna be January 1st. And diet does start on Tuesday and then PFT. We have, I have, I don't know if you've thought about this, but I have the double whammy of our birthday month is coming up and it's our last birthday in our 30s. And I am trying to tell myself that when I turn four, I have to turn 40 in good shape in the best shape of my life. So this is like this is basically
Starting point is 02:12:46 diet starts tomorrow uh like on steroids. It's every life starts tomorrow. My life starts tomorrow. Like I have told myself I'm going to turn 40 when I turn 40 and we're not turning 40 for another 13 months. So people please don't say that we're 40 at the end of January this year. But when I turn 40, I would like to be in good shape because I feel like once you turn 40, it's like, what shape you're in at 40 is what shape you're going to be in for the next 20 years. I know that doesn't make sense, but that's just what I've told myself. So I'm going to put in a very concerted effort starting on Tuesday. I want everyone to be, please be supportive of me.
Starting point is 02:13:29 Max and I have a lifting plan we're going to get into. Max, you know, we're doing that. We're actually going to start that Monday, Max, just so you know, love it. I don't know if I'll be there in time Monday, but Tuesday, I'm in. All right, we're going to start Tuesday. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go ahead and schedule here. I, it's fine. I've kind of taken a little bit of the opposite approach to it, where I've always thought that nothing that you do before your 40 really matters. So once you're
Starting point is 02:13:53 40, you're an adult and you're not, you're right. Like if you turn 40 and you're not in good shape, nobody ever gets in great shape after their 40 unless they're one divorced or two like a former funny chubby actor that then converts into being like a superhero actor. And then you can get a really good shape. But besides that, you don't really clean your life up that much in terms of your physique. But I also just think that like when you're 40, that's when you're grown up, that's when your health starts to matter to you. Like when you're 40, that's when you're grown up, that's when your health starts to matter to you. So I look at my 39th year as being like, this is the last for rock.
Starting point is 02:14:30 Like get it all out of your, do all the drugs in the next year and then you turn 40 and then boom, adult. Okay, all right. Maybe I'll go with that method. I just, I feel like, okay, yeah, I like that better. I like that better. It's easier, right? Like, we're still kids big cat.
Starting point is 02:14:46 We are still kids. We could still get arrested and people would be like, well, they're just kids. Yeah, there's just rascals. We have one more year of being a rascal. I remember, I had a buddy got arrested when we were like, maybe 23, it was just like, we're not kids anymore. If you can't get arrested in your 20s and be like,
Starting point is 02:15:06 ah, it's just kids being kids. You know, the type of crime really matters. I don't, you can't get like a drunken public after your 30. Yeah. But if you're in your 20s, then it's like, okay, they're still figuring out how all that works. But yeah, I'm just gonna tell myself,
Starting point is 02:15:23 I got one more year being a kid. Yeah, just a kid. By the way, before we kick into the lottery ball, we got breaking moose breaking moose. So our aforementioned friend Sam Schwarzenegger sent us a video PFT of a drunk browns fan leaving the stadium. And his name, his customized jersey is Skidmark. So I just tweeted, and I'm just, I don't know where this guy is. I don't know where, you know, like what his life is about, but I just tweeted that if the Browns get to the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 02:15:52 Skidmark is getting one of the tickets from me and you. Okay, that's fair. I think I've got to probably be Skidmark. It probably Skidmark and that other drunk Browns. And the drunk guy, yes, yes, Skidmark. The drunk guy. And what makes it a lot of people and a lot of people say, tweet me the Leo meme on on Tuesday when they're like, when you said the drunk
Starting point is 02:16:12 browns fan is getting a ticket. What makes this video so much better is that he's he's being carried by his buddy, he rockin' a Trent Richardson jersey. Yes, yes. Oh, man, skidmarked browns fans rule. Congrats, the browns in the playoffs. Okay. That was the conclusion the Zoom show. We'll see everyone back in studio on Tuesday. We'll have a show. So we're going to recap everything from the weekend. Please do tune into the barstool Arizona bowl on Saturday. And
Starting point is 02:16:42 thank you for everyone for being patient with a couple Zoom shows. You know, we don't love to do them, but we had to do them this week. So we did we did tape a lottery ball. So we have a lottery ball. So let's kick it to ourselves with a lottery ball. Okay, last of the year, numbers 18, 40, 71, 20, 3, 28, 10, you put it. 71 20 3 28 Give me that eight Longway here. It's like the ball waiting for the ball drop.
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Starting point is 02:17:43 I was thrilling. I like that. Love you guys. See you next year. Oh! Nice! That was thrilling. I like that. Love you guys. See you next year! I'll be coming for your level, baby, level, baby, level, baby Hey, come on, me, make me a I'll be come for a job, for a job He come to the top to the top to the top Needless to say, I'll pretend it's funny Staring right away, then I learn the life is okay Say it to me, it's the better to be safe and solid
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