Pardon My Take - Bill Burr, Rugby Legend Tendai Mtawarira, NFL Week 7 Picks And Fyre Fest Of The Week With A Hypothetical Podcast Fight
Episode Date: October 22, 2021We're live from Colorado so we pretaped our Thursday Night Football predictions. Talk some Ben Simmons update, playoff baseball and Coach O(00:02:44-00:19:58). Week 7 preview and picks plus the worst ...segment weve ever done "Island Boys”(00:19:58-00:49:47). Bill Burr joins the show to talk about his upcoming tour, sports stories in the news and tons more(00:49:47-01:20:43). Rugby Legend Tendai Mtwarira joins the show live in studio to talk about his career, playing Rugby at the highest level and being "The Beast”(01:20:43-01:47:01). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week and a hypothetical fight against another podcast(01:47:01-02:00:47).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's Pardon My Take,
we have a twofer for the people.
We have Bill Burr, recurring guest, all-time guest.
Back on the show, he's got a new tour coming up.
We chop it up with him about different things
in the sports world comedy.
And then we have one of the greatest
rugby players of all time.
I'm gonna butcher his name,
so I'm just gonna call him the Beast.
Definitely tune in to that.
He will be in studio, so it was an awesome interview.
I learned a lot about the game of rugby.
We know PFT loves rugby,
but it was great for anyone who doesn't know rugby,
or people who do know rugby.
We also have NFL Week 7 picks.
Tough slate, bad slate,
but we find some good picks out of there.
We have Fantasy Island Boys,
because I'm an island boy.
And then we have Firefest of the Week,
a little old school part of my take.
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Today is Friday, October 22nd.
And we are inside of Rado.
We're in Minver.
We landed a couple of hours ago.
I gotta admit, the altitude is already getting the best of me.
Uh-oh.
I took the elevator up here, which adds an extra,
I don't know, like 30, 40 feet.
Easily.
I'm exhausted.
I'm tired.
I'm not from not getting any sleep last night.
That's from just being in the altitude.
I'm gonna just blame everything on the altitude while I'm here.
Absolutely.
So we're in Colorado.
Uh, we are taping before the Broncos play the Browns
because we have an event tonight.
Pop punk is playing.
We're doing a game watch for the Broncos in the Browns.
So we're gonna do a little choose your own adventure on tonight's game,
which we looked at the schedule and we're like, hey,
if there's ever a night that we could maybe tape beforehand,
Teddy Bridge, Rotterverse, Case Keenum,
everyone in the Browns hurt except Jarvis Landry's back.
Uh, both teams reeling.
Bad weather.
Wind.
Are you sure?
Wind.
There was supposedly...
No, we got faked up by wind.
I'm not...
Fool me once, shame on me.
Fool me twice, shame.
We won't get fooled again.
Supposedly win.
And I'm in...
We're here in person.
There's no wind.
Right.
The game's gonna be in Cleveland.
Cleveland.
Uh-oh.
I thought that's why we were in Colorado.
Is that a bet you just did?
No, that was real.
Do you think I could...
Uh, you got...
Okay, all right, all right.
All right, that's okay.
36 yards out here?
Well, it came to...
I thought that was like part of the thing, whatever.
Well, no, it was the only standalone game
that we could find on the Browns.
That makes sense why they're underdogs.
All right.
Okay, breaking news.
Welcome to the world's number one sports podcast.
It was in Colorado.
I do that so...
Well, we did do this whole travel to Colorado
for the Broncos game.
There's a game, yeah.
To watch the game.
I do do that often though,
where I will like spend an entire week being like,
a game is one place and then find out right before and be like,
well, that sucks because everything I thought is now reversed.
But yeah, we're here in Colorado.
No win here.
No one's here.
No win here.
No win here.
No one's here on either team,
except maybe John Elway.
Hank and I had a fabulous lunch at John Elway's restaurant.
No big deal.
Baker might be here.
We don't know that.
Baker could be here.
I actually kind of like the fact that we're getting
at least one Thursday night football game with a case.
Yes.
But we need a case or a Blake playing in Thursday night football.
It's good to have Case Keenan back, although he did wear his
backwards hat.
So Colin Coward has erased him as well in terms of franchise
quarterback.
So quick choose your own adventure.
I bet on the Broncos because I'm rooting with a bunch of Broncos
fans tonight.
I hope the Broncos win.
I'm going to say Broncos 19, Brown's 17.
That's a good score.
That is a good score for this game.
I'm going to say Broncos 24.
Okay.
Brown's 13.
Okay.
Hank.
Broncos 35.
What?
Okay.
Brown's 29.
Whoa.
Who's going off tonight for the Broncos?
Teddy two gloves.
I actually think that Hank is probably going to be the closest
to being correct because it's basically a law that whenever you
think a Thursday night football game is going to suck, it ends up
ruling.
It's always good.
Now what about this win factor that I keep hearing so much about?
If you're used to playing in Colorado, you're used to playing in
the thinnest of all air.
Isn't wind just really heavy air moving in one direction?
I'm looking up weather right now.
I'm not a meteorologist.
This is great too because none of this matters because when people
listen to this, it will already have been decided.
But we do know that tornadoes is real wind.
Tornadoes is 100% real wind.
I'm looking right now.
It says next hour is going to be somewhat, well, win 26 miles per
hour.
That's pretty windy.
That's windy.
That's windy.
That is officially wind.
This will be a great game to see how much in addition of a team
leader who plays a position that's entirely reliant on another
position can help out because Jarvis Landry, he's a dog.
We know he's a dog.
He does have the grit.
He wants dogs on that team.
He has the grit.
If he can will the Browns to victory, it'll be like, I don't
think that Case Keenum is going to go out there.
Well, is this a Case Keenum revenge game?
Let's not forget.
Yeah.
The only thing that I'm worried about with betting on the Broncos
is that Odell Beckham has spent his entire time in Cleveland
just talking to backup quarterbacks being like, you should be the
starter.
And when you're the starter, we're going to go off.
So like he, because it's clear that he and Baker maybe aren't on
the same page all the time.
Is that fair to say?
So maybe he's just been on the same page as Case and Case Keenum
just throws him bombs and we see old school Odell, which Odell
Beckham, like I, he's one of those players that he could play
another 10 years and I'll just be waiting for him to take a slant
to the house because that's just what he did with the Giants.
It just hasn't been there.
I would like credit for when Big Cat just now said Odell has been
talking to number two.
I didn't say anything.
I think that earns me at least one or two Rick Riley jokes over the
next two episodes.
There you go.
Although by saying it, you did say it.
No, but I didn't say it.
You acknowledged it.
I said that I didn't say it.
Verbal meme, I'm that kid that's trying to hold in a fart in class,
trying not to talk about Odell Beckham getting shit on his face.
Yeah.
With his, with his face like all red and all the veins.
That poor kid.
We got to, we got to, we got to get that kid on.
We got to, we should do like inside the memes.
All right.
It's actually pretty good.
Yeah, we should.
We should just have just different memes on member scumbag Steve.
He's probably like, he's probably doing someone's fucking life insurance right
now.
He's dead.
Scumbag Steve's dead.
Yeah.
I want to meet the distracted boyfriend guy.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, that guy.
All right.
So we're going to talk about our preview.
We're going to do our entire weekend preview.
Like I said, at the beginning, we, it's old school PMT.
It's just PFT Hank and I in the room.
What it was for the first couple of years.
All the rest of the crew back in New York.
We have their picks though.
We have their firefests, but before we do our weekend preview, we got to do a couple
quick stories real quick.
So Ben Simmons, Ben Simmons is everything we've wanted and more.
If you missed it, if you living under a rock, Ben Simmons is now claiming a back injury.
So Rodney Dangerfield from Caddyshack.
He's saying, oh my back.
He also is claiming mental health, which checkmate, you can't really say anything about
that.
So I'm going to bypass that.
But I'd like to applaud Ben Simmons for being so brave.
Yes, exactly.
Do you like to agree?
Yeah.
I would say it's okay to not be okay.
No.
Hank says Ben.
You're saying he's faking it.
Yeah.
Okay.
But yeah, checkmate Ben Simmons.
If you are faking it, total scumbag, but I'm not allowed to say that because I don't know.
Right.
If he is faking it, he's actually setting mental health way back.
Way back.
I certainly hope that he's not.
You know what's funny is like this.
I saw people comparing the Ben Simmons situation to the Jimmy Butler situation.
Totally different.
Because Ben Simmons could not show up and beat his entire team in practice.
Correct.
That's really the ace in the hole that Jimmy Butler had.
Yeah, I keep saying it.
And I feel like there's some people who still don't understand that like Ben Simmons is
the reason why the Sixers have been held back.
It's not that he, like if Joel and Bede was holding out, it'd be a completely different
scenario here because Joel and Bede is their best player by far and away.
Yeah.
If Ben Simmons had any sense of humor, what he would do is he would actually try to
practice his ass into shape, work on his three point shot in the off season, then start
playing and start airballing every shot intentionally.
Whoa.
Well, he wouldn't have to do it intentionally.
No, I'm saying like he should get good enough to the point where Doc's like, we got a new
Ben, he's a definite starter right now.
Like we love what he's done in the off season and then get out there and start dunking on
his own hoop.
It would be great though if that like spurred an idea, like what if he just came back and
he just shot every time he touched the ball?
Yeah.
So didn't even have to practice his shot, but like he could then say, you guys wanted
me to shoot.
Now I'm shooting.
I suck at shooting.
Which one is it?
Be careful what you wish for.
Yeah.
But either way, Daryl Mori, I think he is probably read Art of the Deal because he said they
are willing to have this last four years.
That's the entirety of Ben Simmons' contract.
He just anchored the negotiation.
He said, we're not going to trade him unless we get a true piece back.
And if this has to go on for four years, it will go on for four years.
Here's to four years.
I hope it does because that would be hilarious.
But Daryl Mori, good counter move to Ben Simmons saying he's dealing with mental health.
Yeah.
I'm looking at the stacks of money and who am I going to bet on?
Ben Simmons, money running out first or Michael Rubin's money running out first.
And he's not even the majority owner.
He's exactly 4%.
Yeah, right.
So like Michael Rubin's bank account times 25.
Yes.
Also, if you guys want to go to a game this year, I got an email from Michael Rubin's
assistant inviting me to a game.
It felt personal.
I got a DM from Lil Uzi Veric.
So yeah, it felt personal, but we should pick a game and all of us go.
Okay.
Why not?
I mean, it was a mistake for him to have, I think that he, I think what Michael Rubin's
assistant does is send it to anyone who's ever gone to a game with him.
So, but it was a mistake because like pick any game you want to go to, we should pick
like the Lakers and be like, can we have 10 floor seats, please?
We should go and Hank should wear a free Ben Simmons shirt.
Yes.
You should be rooting for Ben Simmons to come back actually.
Yeah, I am.
Yeah.
I'm Ben Simmons biggest fan.
Shout out Michael Rubin though.
We like him.
All right.
So that was story number one.
Story number two is Hank, you were a blown Laz Diaz pitch away from being in the World
Series and now the Red Sox seem to be maybe dead.
Where's the panic button that tie?
It's high riding high.
I might have got to mush the team.
There's a lot of people that listen to this podcast that maybe don't listen to day after
they listen to a few days after and I've been getting tweets like today and yesterday being
like, Hey, just listening to a Wednesday show.
Thanks for mushing the Red Sox.
I shout out by the way, that group of people because I actually love those people the like
Tuesday commenting on the Monday show.
I love those people.
I don't know what's going on in their life that they listen a full day after, but there
is like a full group of people that I notice.
Yeah.
Shout.
So whoever's listening to us right now on Saturday.
Happy weekend.
Well, I would like to hear from people that are listening to this on Monday after NFL.
You know who those people are.
Those are people whose teams lost over the weekend.
No, those are perverts.
Perverts because they're listening to us be wrong about everything.
Yeah.
That's like when it was like the pick them, the pick them has like the most views it has
is always on Sunday morning because people want to listen to how many picks we got wrong.
Perverts, but that's also people that maybe their teams lost this weekend and so they
want to deflect and they want to feel mad at somebody else, not their team.
Yes.
Listen to us be wrong about everything that it was our fault that your team lost.
Yes.
All right.
So back to it, Hank.
Nice deflection there yourself.
Red Sox dead live.
I actually did think they were going to win the World Series and they that pitch I it's
this is my point about robot arms because robot arms became the trend after that.
It was a blown strike three call like he should right over the three and he was bad all night
for both teams.
But I think no one really it really no one has any pity for either side, but either way,
robot arms well in in the idea of them is good.
The fact that you can't then complain about things forever sucks.
So like right now, I think that Red Sox fans can realistically say they would have won
this series if it wasn't for last DS.
If you have a robot up and you don't and you lose the series, you have no one to blame.
That's fine.
All right.
What if you lost it just regular?
Like no one wants to lose.
It's like the old like don't ever try too hard because then if you fail, it's like, well,
you tried your hardest and you failed.
Like don't ever have a robot decide who's the better team because if you're not the
better team, then you can't blame a robot.
Well, I also think that if you switch over to the robot arms that you can still get mad
and be like, we should never have taken the human element out of the yeah.
Yeah.
But either way, it does.
I'm going to say it, Hank, it sucks for you right now.
I feel I feel some sympathy.
Yeah.
I mean, you got to win game six and then games have anything can happen.
There you go.
Yeah.
And then we're taking it before the Braves Dodgers game.
This will be a all time Atlanta curse slash big cap mush.
But I think the Braves are going to kill the Dodgers.
You're you're confidence in the Braves.
You should never be.
Yeah.
But maybe that's a cat came up like, I don't know, 30 minutes early.
Yeah.
We've been sitting in the room and he's just been talking about the Braves.
It makes no sense.
Makes no sense.
Never be confident.
Never be confident at all in Atlanta sports.
But that's a general rule of thumb.
But what happens when a noted terrible shit for brains gambler,
lifetime loser in myself gets confident about Atlanta sports?
Maybe that's the perfect storm.
You think to reverse it.
Yeah, I think you're if I start believing that's a two negatives,
equal positive.
I think that you're the last person that would ever believe in
like the actual Atlanta Braves fans.
I believe not do not believe in this team.
They think that you're being a sucker because you have not experienced
the same break that they have.
But I'm saying this is the this is now the perfect storm.
The Braves are in the World Series.
Congratulations to the Braves.
I'm rooting for the Braves.
I'm rooting for the Braves.
I'm rooting for them.
I'm not going to do that.
They're in the World Series.
I'm not going to do that to Atlanta.
This is going to suck so bad.
Not going to not going to do it to him.
He's going to be so bad.
I I want the Braves to win because Max isn't pitching.
Trey, Trey Turner is hurt, right?
Yeah.
So yeah.
So the baby Nats.
Yeah, they're not they're not involved in this right now.
Yeah, dead arm.
Dead arm.
Yeah, that's that's tough.
So Joe Kelly, you said is starting.
It's going to be a bullpen game, which I love.
I don't know.
I always got in my head since I was a kid that starting pitchers
and relief pitchers and then closers all play completely different
positions in baseball turns out they're the same exact position.
Correct.
Just some guy along the way was like you feel like a middle
reliever to me.
And then for the rest of that guy's career, he's stuck throwing
middle relief.
Right.
But if you have like six decent pitchers that can all go for an
inning or two, why wouldn't teams do this more frequently?
Yeah, the rays, the rays do it all the time.
They I think the Dodgers are doing a necessity tonight.
I think if they had a healthy Mac Scherzer, they'd probably be
more of course, but yeah.
So that was our baseball talk again.
Apologies to Braves fans if I was wrong.
But I think you know what?
No, I'm not going to apologize.
You're in the World Series.
I won.
I made a responsibly large wager on the Braves to win game five
and they went out and they proved me right.
So tonight is actually National Sports Day.
I just made up that holiday, but it should be National Sports
Day because you have every major sport playing tonight and you
have college football playing tonight.
Yeah.
What wouldn't we save it for?
Oh, I guess.
Yeah, because yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
Saturday and Sunday.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Great day of sports today.
Great day.
Enjoy.
Hope you guys had a great time last night watching your Atlanta
Braves make the World Series.
Dallas Clap.
Good job, Braves.
All right.
Last thing before we get to our weekend preview, just a quick
word about our good friend Coach Oh, who I hope we have on the show
at some point, but I just we have to call out the fact that the
athletic had a retraction about the pregnant story.
Did you see that?
No.
Yeah.
They had to.
So there's a story.
Contraction.
A contraction.
The story was that Edo hit on a woman at a gas station who was
pregnant and also her husband was a high ranking LSU official.
The editor's note that was just slid in there like on Wednesday
said this story has been updated to reflect that the woman Ed
Osher on encounter at a gas station was not pregnant as
previously reported the athletic regrets that error.
I that's that's fucked up.
You can't do that.
That's an all time ricochet shot at that woman because you know,
you're never supposed to say to a woman like, Hey, congrats.
When are you do on the off chance that they're not pregnant?
This got published in a national article spread across all the seven
seas.
So everyone now thinks having having an apology for calling you
pregnant in a written piece of journalism.
That's bad journalism.
And it's also coach.
Oh, has been we've made some jokes hand up because they're
been funny jokes and we love the guy.
He knows that we love him.
Oh, we know that everyone else, you knows that we love them.
But people who ran with this story and then they just like, Oh,
yeah, sorry, we fucked up.
Hopefully we have coach.
Oh, on at some point to help clear the air on some of these stories.
And I I think I'm we're moving past the jokes.
And I'm just going to keep reminding people.
Two thousand nineteen is one of the best college football
teams of all time coached by coach and they're the story continues
to evolve about the girlfriends at practice.
Yeah, no, that was not now.
It's like their kids were running drills at practice.
And now you've got guys on the team being like, no, this never happened.
But even if it was true, which it wasn't if it was true,
wouldn't that just mean that Coach O was recruiting harder than ever?
He's like dating the moms of the kids that he's recruiting and then
bringing them to practice and putting them in drills.
That sounds to me like a good coach.
Either way, I never thought any of this stuff was bad.
I thought that Coach O probably the reason why he's getting fired is
because SEC fans are crazy and he had two bad years.
And that's just how it works in the SEC.
And I think Coach O is probably at peace with that.
The other stories, well, well, funny when they were thrown out there.
And I love Coach O to the point where I like I want to believe every
coach O story because they're all I I view them all as positives, not negatives.
Either way, that retraction came out.
So I think that's bullshit by the athletic.
I've got my eyes on you, athletic.
Guess what, banners fly forever.
Yep, that's true.
Flags fly forever.
Coach O, whenever he's ready to come on the show, we're going to have him on the
show and we will we will address it all and he can just be like, yeah,
none of it's true and make us love him even more.
All right, let's get to our weekend preview before we do that.
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Okay. Week seven.
It's not great.
It's not great.
We've got by weeks and we've got some games that look on paper.
If you're just going off of spreads, look like they could be big time blowout.
This is when football sneaks up on you.
This is when football sneaks up on you.
And so it's the combination of.
Listen, Sunday night football, Sunday night football, but we've had a really good
run of Sunday night football games.
It feels like everyone's very excited for minus week one when the Bears played.
This one feels like the Colts in the 49ers feels like maybe a little air out
of the Sunday night football and it's supposed to be bad weather.
But either way, the Bills, the Cowboys, the Vikings, the Steelers, the Chargers
and the Jaguars are all on by like just on paper, the Bills, the Cowboys,
the Vikings and Chargers are four of the funnest game teams.
And then you add Big Ben and Steelers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you had Big Ben that so five out of six of the teams and even watching
Urban lose is fun.
So like six teams that are all very fun and make Sundays fun are all on by.
Do you ever do the thing when the season starts where you look at when your
team's by is and you're like, that's a good position for a bye week right now.
Oh, yeah.
Six is too early now.
I use six is I used to think it was like almost perfect, but
now, especially with the 17th game, like I would not want, you know what
the perfect week is if you have a week, 11 by, I was gonna say 10 11 is the
perfect week for a buy because you get kind of get over that hump a little
bit and that point you get to gear up for the stretch run.
It's like week 11 by is like waiting till one 30 to eat your lunch.
Yeah, you know, we're like, when I get back from lunch, I only got three hours
basically done.
Yeah.
Already you just hold out and then a week for buys like when I sometimes
will eat lunch at 945 in the morning and just be like, fuck week.
If you had to pick one, it's absolutely this year.
It's week 11 by week six.
They should they should absolutely space out.
You can't give us like the Cowboys and the Steelers right have the same
by week and in the Vikings.
I'm not I don't like the Vikings, but they objectively play fun games.
Yes, they're always in it like the last second.
So that sucks.
Either way, let's get into the games.
Let's do the picks.
We will will fill in Jake and Billy and Liam's picks for the drive to survive.
Or what are we calling it?
Yeah, drive to the 405 drive to the 405 to live in Diane L.A.
Hank, I want to start with your favorite, your favorite, favorite.
Let me guess, Hank.
Because you've been riding Boston Parley pretty hard.
Not going great.
But yeah, I haven't.
Yeah, go ahead.
Take a guess.
The New England Patriots.
No rivalry game, Billy versus Hank.
Yeah, it's going to be great, which, by the way, there was some talk today
about them fighting in rough and rowdy was this was coming from my mouth.
You know, I said, no, you know, I really miss right now.
Honestly, I miss Jake.
Yeah, I miss Jake, too.
I miss Jake so much.
I miss Jake and Bubba.
Yeah, one time one, two, either or either or no particular.
I don't play favorites.
Yeah, right. My favorite children.
But yeah, there was some talk on the plane.
Yes, about Billy versus Hank.
We'll address that later.
Again, just from me.
Kansas City Chiefs, minus five Titans coming off a letdown spot.
Chiefs looking good, look good in the second half last week.
I think people, this is where they start to turn the tide
and start to reenter that conversation of the Chiefs are back.
I actually agree with that pick.
I like it, too, for the exact same reasons.
That felt like an emotional victory.
How old is Derek Henry?
Twenty six, twenty seven.
I thought for some reason he was a little bit older.
He's one of those guys.
You know what? Another one.
How old is Cooper Cup?
Oh, Cooper Cup, twenty eight.
Twenty eight is right.
He I, for some reason, I saw a stat where like
Cooper Cup has better stats and all these unbelievable receivers,
which that's more modern NFL by their 60th start.
And I was like, Cooper Cups only had 60 starts.
Feels like he's been around forever.
I feel like when there is a white guy who's a receiver in the NFL,
you hear his name and you're like it sticks in your head because you're like,
oh, that's the white receiver.
Yes, yeah.
So he's just through sheer mentioning of his name.
You feel like he's been around forever.
Yes.
Are you worried at all, Hank, about Taylor Luan being on the bills?
No, I'm not. All right.
OK, so that's your pick, Chiefs.
I like that pick.
I do think we're due for although the Chiefs kind of did it
in the second half against Washington football team,
but we're due for a Chiefs like fuck shit up game.
Yeah. Clown. Yeah.
This is we're on Clown watch, especially off a very emotional win for the Titans.
I like you need to find out if AJ Brown's butt is better yet.
Yes. I haven't heard an update on that.
That's true. All right.
Of course, in the diary again, your favorite is actually by that was
that's probably the best game in the one o'clock window.
Actually, maybe bangles Ravens, but we'll get to it.
Yeah. So I'm going to stay with we're going to do interim again.
I think that we have which Pacifica I think Pacifica.
I'm going to I'm going to stay betting on the Raiders until proven otherwise.
Have to. I loved what he showed me last week.
The guys came out. They played hard.
So yeah, I'm not going to jump off that yet.
I feel like the Eagles.
I'm not impressed with the Eagles so far this year,
even in the times that they've played well.
I feel like it's it's like always fleeting when they're
when they put together a good drive that ends in a touchdown.
I'm looking for the flag 20 30 seconds after the touchdown scored
because I just can't believe that they're actually scoring touchdown.
I also would like to see a spray chart of Jalen Hurts.
Passes this year, because I think he might lead the league
and passes thrown out of bounds.
Yeah, just just off the top of my head.
I feel like he does lead the league in that.
Well, it passes that he throws out of bounds.
Throw that end up out of bounds.
Yes, yes, that land out of bounds.
Yes, it landed out of bounds because he does the thing
where he scrambles back into the right.
Right. And then throws two yards past the six.
Speaking of which, we have a new stats guy who hit me up.
He will probably do this for us.
I'm going to pull it up right now.
Shout out, Jeff Henderson.
He made a chart for us all time, a hum, all time sad field goals.
So it's pretty sad looking at it.
Like in 2005, the San Francisco 49ers were losing
to your Washington football team.
They were losing 52 to seven with four minutes left.
Yeah. And they kicked a field goal.
I remember that game.
Very that.
Sean Taylor sprained his ankle in that game, had an interception.
That at that point, I was like, Joe Gibbs is back, baby.
Yeah, the Jets were losing to the Patriots in 2016, week 16.
Down 41, nothing in the fourth quarter and they kicked a field goal.
That's a sad field goal.
Very sad. That's a very sad field goal.
Either way, he hopefully will find us.
Jalen Hurts throwing out of bounds.
Rich Basicki, by the way, there's multiple phases to the interim head coach.
I think we have graduated.
I think we're very close to graduating to phase two, which is a distinct.
We actually are a good team and this guy is really like this is the guy.
I think we're close to Mark Davis.
Like if they win one or two more games, Mark Davis, maybe, maybe four year contract
to Taylor Honekey. Yeah.
Taylor Honekey, four year contract.
Yeah. Rich Basicki, a named head coach.
Then next year he starts 0 and five and gets fired.
It could be.
I think that if he wins three more games is he'll get an interview
because I think interim head coaches are technically a minority status
because there's only one of them.
So that should satisfy the Rooney.
Correct. Correct.
But he'll get an interview at least.
Also Italian.
Also Italian.
Yes. Maybe not pervert.
Yeah. Well, if you're Italian, that does satisfy.
Yeah. Right. Right.
It satisfies the pervert and the Italian.
Well, if you're if you're Italian, but you're not a pervert,
then you're a minority of Italians.
Yes, that's true. That's actually a fact.
All right. My my favorite is going to be the Falcons.
Falcons minus two and a half.
I now listen.
They're awful by dolphins have to travel travel back from England.
They're playing right away.
We're there's a lot of Tua fans out there.
They're very, very loud.
All I'm going to ask is don't you think that the dolphins might not be sold on Tua
if there's this much smoke about to Sean Watson?
Yeah. Don't you think?
Well, Tua is an island boy and I might have to become an island boy too,
because they're talking about moving into the football team.
Yeah, which I did see your friend JP Finley did say that was a hard no,
but we know that means nothing.
It means absolutely nothing.
It's a hard no. OK, but that can turn into a very hard yes.
Yes. Or even a harder no, which is a yes. Yes.
Yeah. I think that it's like 50 percent that Tua ends up.
Now, maybe what they're saying is they're not actively pursuing Tua,
but if Tua gets offered to them for the right price, so they can't.
What would be the plan for Tua to get benched for right?
Again? Yes. Yes.
Well, I'm I've convinced myself to the point where I now believe in changes
of scenery for a quarterback.
I'm like, all all two of these is a fresh start, change of scenery.
And then I started thinking, what are the other quarterbacks
that a change of scenery has actually worked for?
And the only ones I think, Ryan Tannehill, Miami, Miami, right?
Tom Brady, great change.
Now he's a better quarterback than ever. That's true.
That's a fact. What's that?
You just kind of screamed and then Matt Stafford, he benefited too.
Jimmy Garoppolo went to a Super Bowl.
That's true. Yeah.
I mean, there aren't that many change of scenery guys.
But I'm starting great with the Jets. Exactly.
So I'm talking myself into Andy Dalton became a nicer guy with a Chicago Bears.
Aaron Rodgers next year on the Steelers.
Yep. That's going to be a great change for me.
I root for it and I hope I hate left handed quarterbacks
as we've discussed, I think the left hand is the devil's arm.
But at this point, I'm like, you know what?
Fuck it, we've tried right handed quarterbacks.
So why? And they haven't worked out.
That was quick. Oh, real quick.
From Taylor Heineke's, the guy to Tua can't be worse.
No, I'm not necessarily Taylor.
I'm saying we've tried a lot of I know, I know.
But that's that hasn't worked out.
We've we've gone from the career arc of Taylor Heineke.
The guy was that's just a ten day mayor.
You were basically what I was in Kim Kardashian with Taylor.
No, what I did with Taylor Heineke, that's a microcosm
of every Taylor Heineke game where it's like really good, then really, really bad.
So I'm just a prisoner of the moment. What can I say?
But you do the same thing.
Oh, I do, too. Yes. But it's funny.
I mean, you when you when I do it, you pointed out, it's funny when you can
step back and watch it and you're like, wait, is that how?
Yeah, I do the same thing, but it looks dumb.
Yeah. It's incredibly dumb.
Oh, no, I know I do the same thing.
And it looks very dumb when I do it.
Hank, you're underdog.
That was Liam's favorite as well.
The Falcons. OK.
My underdog is I think I've been doing them all all year.
I'm going to keep doing until they win.
I think they're going to win this one outright.
The Detroit Lions, the Detroit Lions.
Why are you sprinkling money line?
I'm sprinkling the shit out of the money line.
Heavy sprinkle, heavy pour on the money line.
Who's Salt Bay on the money line?
Who's it more of a wrench game for?
I think Jared, Jared. Absolutely.
Although Matt Stafford did have to, like, I mean,
nine, 10 years with the Lions is.
It's not really revenge, though.
It's more like it's almost going to make him appreciate L.A.
even more. Yeah.
Whereas Jared's coming for blood.
I do think that Sean McVeigh is is going to be very
intimidated in this game by Dan Campbell.
He's Sean McVeigh.
Dan Campbell is already living rent free inside of Sean McVeigh's
head to the point where I would be afraid to bet against the Rams
this week because he's going to pull out all the stops.
Well, and Dan Campbell very, very well,
could like get to the game and be like, Jared,
is that the guy who hurt you and be like, yep, and he just goes up
and just fucking punches him, punches through his skull.
I would love to see that, except for not maybe through a skull.
No, through a skull, a fistfight through his skull.
All right. Good underdog.
Jake has that as well. Jake has as well.
Too many points. We'll go over all.
There's the end.
PFT. OK. My underdog, I actually also have the Lions.
I was playing devil's advocate, but I've got the Lions.
It's right here on my sheet. So many points.
My entire thing is it's so many points.
It's a lot of points.
They pay the Lions.
They're professional players, too.
They get paid to play in the National Football League.
They're big boys.
They're not. It's not like if you if you look at two mismatched
high school teams playing against each other or even in college,
you're like getting off the bus.
That team's way better.
Yeah. The Detroit Lions have big guys that play football for them.
They got guys to.
I'm counting on the big guys on the Lions being better today
than the big guys on the Rams or at least not 15 and a half points worse than them.
All right, I'm going to probably regret this one,
but I am going to take the Bengals plus six and a half against the Ravens.
I don't hate it.
I think this is a good game, though, because I'm very excited for this game
because it essentially decides like if the Ravens do again,
what they did to the Chargers to the Bengals, they're like, all right,
now it now it's the AFC like the AFC.
It's the Ravens. You know what I mean?
But if the Bengals can keep this close or possibly win this game,
they are officially elevated to a good team, playoff team.
Like and I think they're right there.
I think their defense has played very well.
The Bengals are going to be a team that you're going to be shocked to see
in the in the hunt graphic until maybe the very last weekend.
So I'm taking the Bengals.
I think the Bengals can keep this close.
I don't know about when, but they can keep it close.
Two coaches with when you combine them, have an exactly average size collar.
Yes. Yes, that's true.
All right, Hank, you're over.
My over is going to be Sunday Night Football.
Oh, do you know about the weather?
Are we doing this again?
I'm just asking.
I don't try.
The answer is no.
Jesus Christ, I'm just trying to be a friend.
Oh, you know what?
This is going to be another one of those games at San Francisco
where Collinsworth does the slide and it's going to be bright as hell outside.
I hate that.
I hate it when Sunday Night Football starts out when it's daylight.
It's not Sunday afternoon.
It's not Sunday boozy brunch football, Sunday Night Football.
OK, you might be lucky, though, because it might be dark overcast.
I'm looking at it right now.
Let's find it. Ten day weather.
By the way, I was dead on my my weather.
You know, you guys haven't given me credit for the win.
I get on fact, you know, you were very right about the wind.
I gave you credit.
There was a gust that was 25.6.
So I don't have to suck your dick.
All right, Sunday Night
potential for flooding rains, winds southwest, 10 to 20 miles an hour.
Chance of rain, 100 percent rainfall may reach one inch.
Flooding rains doesn't sound good.
It doesn't sound good.
I'm you can pick whatever you want.
I'm trying to help you.
All I know is that I had the visualization
when I was made aware of the weather.
Just think for a second of Carson Wentz covered head to toe in mud.
But that would be where he thrives.
The over is 44. Right.
So it's pretty low. Right.
But I'm just saying Carson Wentz covered in mud
because he's got the white uniform on.
Like I'm talking about fourth play of the game.
He's already been sacked.
He's got like maybe half of he looks like a like a half mooncake
where half of his body is just covered in mud.
I actually think he's going to get a shitload of turf stuck in his face.
Yup. Yes. That's what's going to happen with it.
Yup. He's and you know what?
I don't think that his linemen like him enough to come over
and pick the turf out of his face mask.
He's going to have to be doing it by himself.
Yes. Or like walk over and get the guy
that catches the ball for the quarterbacks
when they get their arms warmed up.
That guy is going to have to pick it out.
All right, I'm switching over over 43.
Panthers Giants. There we go.
All right. Hey, can you also officially?
I don't like what you just did.
Yeah. Okay, then keep it.
No, no. Hank was going to ride with the San Francisco over.
Yeah. Do it.
Get away from him.
Can you also put a mental note?
I think I picked the Colts in the advisors,
but that was when I didn't know there was rain
and I had the visualization of Carson Wentz
being completely covered head to toe in mud.
So please switch that for me.
But here's another visualization.
Just on the graphics, just say Niners.
Debo Samuel covered in mud means
that he scored like four touchdowns.
Just running through everybody.
That's true. So please, can you just have a graphic
that says he switched to the Niners?
Stamp it on my forehead.
I guess. Okay. Thank you.
I made the official switch just now.
All right, we're going to put in that audio.
This is going to be crazy if you watch advisors.
Yeah, it is. Okay.
We're going to put the audio that you just said.
Perfect. Into the show.
Perfect. All right. PFT, you're over.
So your over is Carolina, New York.
Yeah. My over is going to be.
My over is going to be the Washington football team
in the Panthers or Packers.
Every week we go away and the artists
formerly known as the Redskins.
Every week we go into this Friday show
and I'm so confident.
And then I always end up like one in five.
And I'm just like, what went wrong?
You talk yourself out of everything.
Yeah. Wait. So this over, I like it.
I love this over.
I think that both defenses kind of stink.
The Packers defense shows up occasionally,
but I'm still not a believer in them.
And yeah, Aaron Rodgers coming off an emotional victory.
It's true. Against the Bears.
I was thinking about since I'm an owner of the Packers,
I also now kind of own a piece of the Bears.
Do you think though,
but do the Packers own Aaron Rodgers?
They're just leasing him.
No, they. OK, so I have.
I have equity in Rodgers.
I have I have stock in him, but I don't.
I don't owe word him, but I'm I'm I'm banking on some points
this weekend and I have announcement to make
about my Washington football team fandom.
Oh, OK, yes, please.
So last week I talked to you guys about the Sean Taylor thing.
Yep. And it pissed me off because I what they ended up doing with it
is they announced it four days before the Jersey retirement sauce,
which sounds sauce. Very.
It's what they've done. Here's what sucks.
It's what they've done for every single like marketing initiative
that they've done this year, like when they had breast cancer
Awareness Week earlier in October.
They announced it on that Monday or that Tuesday.
That's different. But my problem is Sean Taylor is not a theme week.
Correct. Sean Taylor is a man who died,
who got shot, who meant a lot to Washington football fans.
When you go when you when you denigrate his memory
in the interest of a marketing initiative, you lose me.
Yes, you lose me entirely. So you're done.
So I am my announcement is I am officially on my last straw.
Oh, no. Washington football team last straw.
In fact, I went out, I bought a straw.
What is I have a straw? How thick?
What's a straw? And I also bought a camel cigarette.
So it will be I don't know if it should be the straw that broke the camel's back.
Yeah, or I think it's just a straw.
I have a I own a straw now, and it's my last one with the football team.
What they must be nervous.
They're very nervous because this is the highest level of the organization.
The last straw, the last straw with Washington.
Can they get two straws back?
I don't. Yeah, they can.
They can improve their straw quantity.
They're holdings.
Yes, they can.
But right now, they're literally on their last straw.
Damn, if it gets it sounds like anything bad happens.
Yeah, to the point where I lose faith in this organization again.
What? What? What, Hank?
Yeah, what else could they do?
Hank, I'm very worse than Sean Taylor.
I'm bearing my soul to you guys.
You're only good players dead and they fucked up his retirement ceremony.
Yes, there's no one.
Last straw is one more straw.
There's nothing else they could do.
Hank, in their defense, the team has been such shit for the last 30 years.
We don't exactly have a lot of practice retiring jerseys of good players.
Last straw hasn't really been a problem for us.
Listen, last straw, last straw.
I'm on my last straw.
You know what? I am on my last straw.
PFT. Am I allowed to join you?
Yeah, you're you on the last straw.
I'm on the last straw. Hank, I'm on the last with the Washington football team.
Do we have to get?
Yes, we do.
It's a three straws that I'm joining you in your fight.
If we're on our last straws, I will wait for your word
and I will snap my straw.
I'm already out on them until they pick a fucking mascot.
So you're you're without a straw. Yeah. All right.
So you're you're you're looking.
I can give you my straw.
Yeah. Once they get a mascot, though, I'll straw it up.
OK. All right.
So we got two straws out of the three of us.
I just I'm very I'm angry than I've ever been saying at the Washington football team.
Agreed. Yeah, I am.
Why are you laughing about this?
And dude, I'm being a good friend right now.
You've won a million Super Bowls in the last four years.
Why are you mad?
It's why are you laughing at me?
It's it's called being a good friend.
If PFT is on his last straw, I'm on my last straw.
Yeah. Now you can't leave Washington football team
because you got both of us.
I'm actually starting to think that Hank likes the fact that we're on our last.
No, you just like you just keep getting cheated on.
You're like, well, yeah, no, it'll be fine.
Yeah. It's OK.
They just said this time it will be different.
They just got to work.
They got they got a long work retreat.
I probably wasn't doing a good enough job as a fan to make them be loyal to me.
You know what? I'll just I got to lose 10 pounds and then they'll love me back.
OK. So yeah, I'm taking the over. OK.
All right. My over.
I'm going to go with Bears Box.
I have every week is the same for me where Monday I'm down in the dumps.
And then by the end of the week, I start talking to myself and figuring out
ways the Bears could possibly win this game.
Now, I don't think they're going to win this game, but I have told myself
the Bucks secondary sucks.
This will be Justin Fields coming out party.
Now, can they stop the Bucks?
I do not know. But the over.
So what is it?
Forty seven. Boom.
I'm on the opposite side of that.
OK, you're on the under. Yeah.
I just think like Maggie Nagy is he's got the Bucks number.
Yeah, that's true. He does.
Yeah, Mr. Biscay had his best game, six touchdowns against the Bucks.
We beat the Bucks last year when it was what, 65 degrees exactly.
Yep. We own the Bucks.
Yeah. So I think that they're going to they're going to frustrate Tom.
OK. The Bucks are still going to win, but he's going to be frustrated after the game.
But Justin Fields and have a coming out party.
Maybe coming out party. OK.
You're under. That is my under.
OK. Perfect. Perfect.
So you guys both have that under.
Yeah. All right.
My under is going to be I'll do the Patriots jets
minus under 42 and a half.
It's probably probably safe bet.
I mean, I don't know.
I think Zach Wilson, I think the Patriots are going to be like
if they could play the Jets every week, it'd be great.
Because I mean, I'm going to listen, look bad again.
I'm concerned. You are. Yeah.
Oh, so the good news for you, Hank, is I think that Belichick
went into the season making a very obvious decision
that this year is where it's a development year.
And so the way that he's coaching right now, I saw a stat the other day.
I don't have it in front of me,
but he is basically the most conservative coach in the NFL
when it comes to it is bound when it comes to punting,
when it comes to deciding what place to call on third down.
Throwing the ball, throwing the ball.
Yeah, he is like he is the most conservative of all the coaches.
So like that tells me that Belichick, obviously, he's got
enough cred in the organization where he won't be like,
you know, on the hot seat this year,
where he can have these developmental years of macho. What?
That's good. He's right.
I am making sense.
I'm making sense where he's going to have thought about it like that.
He's going to have like at least two or three years to bring him along.
But yeah, he's like he's swung so far in the opposite direction.
Are you guys going to bet the under in the box bears game?
Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to be on the opposite side.
I'm going to switch my over.
I'm going to do 49ers Colts over forty four.
I'll stay with the bears.
All right, the picks from the other guys.
So let's see.
Jake has the Packers as his favorite.
Detroit, too many points.
He has the over in the box bears with me
and he has Atlanta, Miami under forty seven and a half.
Liam has Falcons as his favorite.
Giants is his underdog.
Bengals Ravens over Chiefs Titans under.
Now, Liam, I don't know if this is maybe a color blindness thing,
but he has the Chiefs Titans under forty seven.
So I'm going to give him the fifty seven.
But that's a ball he played by him under forty alternate line.
It's like the alternate line.
And then Billy has the Bucks minus twelve and a half.
He's marking that as a win.
The Jets plus seven.
He's marking that as a loss.
The Titans Chiefs over fifty seven.
He's marking that as a win and the Bengals Ravens under forty six.
He's marking that as a loss.
He did go to and to last week.
So that's the Billy.
I'm looking at the Chiefs Titans.
Those are two teams that can put up points.
Yes. And then you look at fifty seven.
That's a lot of points.
And Liam was like, I like it at forty seven.
That's how much he likes it.
I mean, Billy's kind of a sharp.
Let's be honest. Yeah.
If Liam, if that game goes under forty seven,
I will personally give Liam something nice.
I'll buy him. Yeah.
No, I'll buy him something.
I'll buy him some shoes.
Shoes that he wants.
Any shoes that he wants to a certain price
if that game goes under forty seven.
All right. Should we do Island Boys?
Fantasy Island Boys.
Do we need to have a disclaimer that this is a we're mocking
Chet Hanks and the Island Boys.
We're doing an impression of the Island Boys.
And yeah, what are the Island Boys?
Maybe there's people who aren't on the internet that know what.
Why don't you explain it? I don't really know.
I they're two brothers.
There's a viral video of these two kids.
The Island Boys have like Kodak black hair,
like the crazy braids Bart Simpson Bart Simpson.
They're two white kids and they're singing a freestyle
about them being the Island Boys.
Big Hat has been quite literally singing it.
It's been in my head for four days.
I'm a just Island Boys with a Florida Boys.
We got a vest on.
So yeah, this is a and also a little Chet Hanks.
I might I'm drawing inspiration from Chet Hanks.
I always draw inspiration.
So thanks. All right. Ready?
My name is going to Guatemala.
Oh, is an Island Boy.
My start is for the edge.
It's that time of year.
Unless you're on an island.
Well, Island Boy.
My sit is hunting wells.
Oh, we are Island Boys.
We should let the whales live.
Nice. Right by the beach.
My sleep is Jock Peterson.
Oh, your riso's back.
Juck Juck.
NLCS MVP.
Congrats on going to the World Series.
Yeah, bro. Bravo.
Blupa.
You're a fat fuck boy, boy, boy.
What up?
This blue tank hex.
Fantasy Island Boy.
I'm starting rugby.
Rugby.
Oh, you talk like you're talking like the beast now, boy.
Going to FedEx in Phoenix, Maryland.
This is going to get us kids.
Hank, you got to put some bang and ask.
Yeah, you got to really spice this up, boy.
I'm sitting in the NBA.
I'm sitting in the NBA clump team.
Because did you see Steven A Smith's tweet?
Steven A Smith.
A lot of mostly he tweeted out.
Get ready for NBA clump.
Dean, C L U N T D I W N.
Which sounds a lot like just a guy from Philadelphia saying.
Count that.
Clink down.
My sleeper is quiet.
What is an island?
Island boy.
Kawhi's got an album coming out at midnight tonight.
So why I'm sure it'll be great.
Sure, just big fire pouring his heart and soul into it.
Big fire.
All right.
What's up, boys?
It's champbelly.
We're in Denver Island.
My stardom is Justin Fields.
He's an island boy.
That is Florida.
Lawnmower.
He's going to have a coming out party.
My stardom is tattoos because I saw the island boys.
And now I don't want to tattoo anymore.
It was a big.
And my sleeper, Brian Laundry, you fucking bitch.
You are sleeping in the swamp, bitch.
Bruh, bruh, bruh.
All right.
They're going to murder.
That's a one and done.
You're going to have to really boost that.
We're going to need some post-production.
No clips of that one coming out.
No social clips of that one.
We tried and we failed.
But we can say that.
I thought it was a good attempt.
It was a very, it was a valiant attempt.
Listen, you got to take shots in comedy.
You can't play it safe.
That's right.
Was that comedy?
Yeah.
It's comedy the same way that when people get up on stage
and say things that the audience agrees with and they clap.
That's comedy, too.
By the way, Brian Laundry, they did confirm that was his teeth.
So fuck you, you dead bitch.
Fuck you, Brian.
Yeah.
Dog probably caught him.
Yeah.
I mean, dog probably smoked him out.
Also, I'm really excited for the rest of the internet
to spend the next three years saying that I already
saw under the FBI saying they found the dental records
of Brian Laundry.
People being like, that's bullshit.
Well, how could he have decomposed already
in four weeks in the swamp?
Well, pretty easily.
And people saying that he's still alive somewhere.
He just pulled his teeth out through him in the swamp
and now he's in Mexico.
They probably figured out ways to check beyond just like.
Yeah, I'd say so.
But I'm kind of on board with that Brian Laundry is still
alive and living in Argentina.
Yeah, that's going to be there's going
to be a sect of the internet that is just
going to go chase that for the next five years.
So good luck.
Yeah.
Eventually, we're going to have Brian Laundry's coming back
from the dead and he's going to be named vice president.
Nobody out there.
I'm telling you right now, do not under any circumstances
go as Brian Laundry for Halloween.
Do not.
I'm telling you.
I don't think anyone needs that disclaimer.
There's some people thinking about it right now.
No, he's a fucking scumbag rotten hell.
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OK, here he is, Bill Burr.
Ooh.
OK, we now welcome on one of our favorite recurring guests.
It is Bill Burr.
He has just announced he's back.
He's officially back.
He's touring.
It's actually Bill Burr parentheses slight return.
So it's a slight return.
Is that a Jimi Hendrix thing?
Slash how we might be in quarantine by the time
these stupid dates come out.
So I'm saying I'm back, but who the hell knows?
Got it.
You're setting it.
You're setting the parameters here
that you're returning.
It's a slight return.
It's 23 cities.
What I'm doing is hedging my bets.
I'm blaming my offensive line before the game even starts.
Yeah, it's not to make excuses, but here's an excuse just
in case.
Yes.
That's perfect.
So go buy tickets now.
They're on sale.
23 different cities.
I was looking at the list of places you're going,
and I noticed one.
I circled one.
You're going to Saratoga while, obviously, the races
are going on in August.
Have you been to the track in Saratoga?
No, I've been to the Kentucky Derby.
So I haven't gone to that one.
So I got to figure that out, because the Kentucky Derby,
you know, well, that was a good time.
Yeah.
That was a good time.
Yeah, Saratoga is a great, great town,
especially when the horse racing is going on.
So you definitely have to do that.
But it's good that you're back.
It feels like this is the start of normal coming back.
Bill Burr's back on the road.
I mean, I hope so.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
It seems like I think we're just going to live with COVID.
I've given up on everybody, you know,
jumping on one side or the other.
We now have, like, I don't know how many 24-hour news
networks to drive everybody in different directions.
We got podcasts.
We got town criers.
Everybody's got a voice now.
So divided locker room.
Yeah.
It's COVID hangs.
That's what that's my prediction.
And I think we're just going to work around it.
I feel like everybody has kind of chosen their lane.
By this point.
And they're just getting further and further entrenched.
I don't think anybody's getting more moderate as this goes on.
No, the internet has become like a bunch of towny bars.
And you're OK as long as you agree with everybody in that bar.
And you know, if you don't, they all look at you
and they try to drive you out.
It's really a low point.
Yeah.
Low point.
And I think the internet should be shut down
and at least monitored.
You've got to somehow, like I've been doing this bit about
incels, that a bunch of people who don't know how to talk to women,
talk to a bunch of other people who don't know how to talk to women.
And then in the end, they're all blaming women rather than somebody
just coming in there and being like, dude, you guys, you're just in a slump.
Yeah.
Shoot a shot.
Yeah, shoot a shot.
Go after something with a limp.
Anything.
Get yourself out of the slump.
There's no reason to get this angry and ruin everybody's lives.
But you get a bunch of morons.
And the next thing you know, they're all talking.
They think the world is flat, which was not even a debate for the first 48 years
of my life.
And now there's like people with driver's licenses and they vote and stuff.
And they're absolutely convinced that it's a giant cereal bowl with an ice
ball around it.
They use technology every day, GPS, that proves that the world is not flat.
But then they're, you know, everyone likes to think that they know something
more than somebody else.
You know, everyone likes to think that they're in on something,
that all these other sheep out there don't even know about.
Billy is actually a number one target of the incel community.
Our intern, our former intern here, he's terrified that they're going to kill him
because he thinks he gets laid so much that the incels are jealous.
Oh yeah, they'll start saying he's getting all the pussy they should be
getting.
He's taking too much.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I thought nice guys.
Yeah, I thought nice guys had a chance.
It is funny because it is the entire internet exists where basically everyone
starts liking something and then they talk to each other so much about it.
They end up hating the thing they like and similar to like the incels being like,
we hate women, which is, is crazy.
Just go and talk to one and I'm sure it will be okay.
I also have books on how to talk to women.
Yeah, read those before you sit around and talk to somebody else.
It's like, I'm hitting 190.
How do I stay in the MLB?
I'm hitting 192.
Let's let's exchange notes.
Yeah, but my, my favorite new town bar, if we're using that analogy for the internet
is now whenever there is someone who passes away, there immediately is, did he have his
vaccine?
Did he have COVID?
What which shot?
Is it a good death or a bad death?
We need to categorize it's not this person died.
It's sad.
It's, well, how can I make this death part of my entire data points here?
Yeah, I think to your brand, that's what the word you're looking for.
How can I brand this person's death that I have no emotional connection with to increase
my followers so I can become an influencer?
And then the best one is, if you look, whenever, I mean, it's sad when people die, people die.
That's people have been dying since the beginning of time.
But the first reply is always, RIP, just a quick question.
Were they vaccinated?
That's like instantly right after their death.
Yeah.
I'm going to, I'm going to respect you during this time while now I'm not going to and ask
you how did they die?
Yes.
Yes.
I clearly said RIP.
So that, you know, the follow up question is, is allowed.
I think in qualified, well, you know, I looked at this way, I thought AIDS was going to take
us out considering once it got into the heterosexual community, then it was kind of everywhere
and it was like, all right, you get this through having sex.
People aren't going to stop having sex.
We're finished.
And they were able to get in front of that.
So thank God for the egghead doctors out there and chemists, whatever you call them,
the researchers with the microscopes that did stuff beyond looking at ants like I did
underneath them, you know, who actually know what they're doing.
Cause I think they'll figure it out eventually, but I don't see any time soon.
And I gotta be honest with you, I don't give a shit anymore.
Yeah.
I'm kind of with you.
I'm like, it's gotten to a point where I just can't be bothered to care about this stuff
anymore.
Okay.
This has gone on for long enough.
I'm just going to try to live my life and do things that I want to do and try to do
them safely.
Have you noticed that people that are coming out to your shows now are like, they've got
like pint up laughter that they're waiting to let out?
Are they laughing at even the bad jokes that you're telling?
No, cause a lot of the states that I have been going to lately, I don't think ever fully
embraced that there was COVID.
I mean, so, but I mean, I think people just like, uh, it seems to be, if you're mad
mask up in your ears, you're vaccinated, you're maxed up, you're going to be all right.
You know, it seems to be, I mean, I've been out there with no mask on in front of all
of these people and, um, you know, I'm more than six feet apart.
So I've been all right.
I don't know.
But I just know that, you know, they're trying to come up with solutions and no matter what
solution they come up with, there's going to be a whole other group of people going
like, no, actually there's a microchip in that and this, that and the other thing.
And it's just like, it's just, I actually think that there's a lot of people out there
that not necessarily, uh, just dumb.
I just think that they had control of their life.
You know, those people where they, they're sort of like the, the, the big fish there
and everyone, then he got all these other fish swimming around them and they sort of
call the shots.
They're like the Elvis of their little world, right?
And everybody else is in their entourage.
I feel like this thing fucked with their sense of control.
So their way to get their control back is to rebel against it.
And, uh, there was this one person, I can't give too much detail or my wife will
kill me, but I branded this person an ego maniac like six years ago.
And my wife, of course, just thought it's Bill being a jerk again.
And, um, when this stuff first hit, uh, God, how do I tell this story?
Let's just say we were going in for an appointment and they were saying, just to
let you know, this person is not wearing a mask.
And we were like at the office and they were like, no, not at all.
And I was like, I fucking told you, I told you that person was way too old to have
a purple streak in their hair.
It's like, you're in your fifties.
What are you rebelling against?
Sixty year olds, you are the establishment.
Yeah, I just, I'm telling you, I'm telling you, it was one of my, one of the
greatest moments in COVID for me was when I proved that person was an ego maniac.
Those are the best though, the takes that aren't even said out loud on a platform.
And you know, like the private takes, like I knew that guy sucked and you might
only tell it to your wife or like a couple of close friends, but, and you
can't get the satisfaction of everyone being like, Oh, you were right.
But that private satisfaction is incredible.
Dude, I was in the waiting room and the person said, I was texting on
silence, said you can't text in here.
Just had to have undivided attention on it was just, I was just like, my God,
I mean, I've seen people with their own sitcoms act nicer than you.
The, the being over it though, it's, it's, I think we're all, the three of us
are pretty similar in the fact that we have the wherewithal to realize part
of the reason why we're over it is like the old bread and circus in like Roman
times, like if you give us sports back and you let us go to dinner every now
and then we can pretty much deal with anything like we're cool.
I wear a mask.
I don't give a shit.
I don't, I don't care.
It's don't take it.
I don't give a shit anymore.
You win.
Yeah.
And it's funny being like part of like the feeble minded, but having the
wherewithal to be like, Oh yeah, I am that guy where it's like, just, just let
me watch 14 hours of NFL on Sunday.
And you won't hear many complaints out of me.
Exactly.
Well, that was my thing.
I got some woman got mad at me because I was making fun that they were
bringing that pink stuff back in the NFL.
And of course she's just acting like I don't care about people with cancer.
And like, I've never had people die friends, die.
My thing is like, that is my four quarters to get away from 24 hour news
networks, tragedy and all of this shit.
And over the years, they've, they've just turned after they've just sort of so
inundated you with depressing shit on 24 hour news networks.
People stopped watching it.
I think more people watching sports.
So now that shit is like leaking in to like sports where it's like, you know,
108, 107, by the way, this person lost a leg.
He's just like, can I just have four quarters?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then I was thinking about this.
I was curious to get your take on, on how the NFL has been going this year in
terms of the roughing the passer penalties.
Because I know that you are obviously a big safety first guy.
And, you know, you want to see, you want to see all the players get out there
and, and maybe not even hit each other hard.
So I was curious to know what you thought about if you saw the Kyler Murray
roughing the passer last week, if you've been paying attention to that.
No, I mean, I, that's been going on since Brady and Peyton Manning way back
in the day.
Once they, they so made so many rules, you know, I feel like what happened
with all four sports was they reached maximum density sports fans.
So then in order to get casual fans, scoring is what gets them.
It's like soccer.
If the games were like nine to eight, America would be watching.
Yes.
And then maybe eventually get into the beauty of the game and understand it.
But the first thing that's going to get you there is the long ball.
So I think once they made all those rules, we're every year, you know, some
fucking, you know, half-assed QB is threatening Dan Marino's 1984 season,
it seems, every year they became the superstars.
And I think their ratings went down when quarterbacks got hurt and people
didn't want to watch the game.
So they just started protecting them more so than they ever did.
And I don't know.
I mean, it's hard to bitch about it when you see these guys that you love
growing up and they're having problems, cognitive issues and all that.
And the NFL is allegedly fucking with their pay.
They won't even give them the piddly sum that they said they were going to.
So I get it on the long run, but as far as like, you know, being a football fan,
I think it's, you know, it's not as fun as it used to be.
Well, and I think in a cynical sense, the protecting of the quarterbacks
is like a strategy by the NFL.
And this might not actually be what they're trying to do, but I think it's
what's happening in the long term ranges.
Like when you talk about cognitive issues, CTE, the NFL dealing with all that stuff,
the biggest like crisis the NFL would have in the future is a big time
quarterback that is like the face of a franchise because we feel like we know
the quarterbacks more than we know an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman.
So like if Peyton Manning was like having trouble, cognitively,
I think that would be another crisis for the NFL.
So whether they're doing it on purpose to protect the quarterbacks that way
or not, I don't know, but there could be like a cynical view of it.
It's like, they know the one guy, the one guy that can't have it.
Always choose his money. Yeah, it's always been about the money.
If they actually cared about the players, they would have addressed this issue
decades ago, you know, it's a corporation.
Yeah, they're going to pour shit in the water supply.
Oh, wait, hang on a second.
I got to get rid of this end and accept decline.
That's the button. Jesus.
The yeah, the it's it's I mean, it's great to have football back with fans.
It's all of it is awesome.
If we want to do the random text I get from Bill Burr, last time we brought you
cornerback celebrating this time, I got a random text from Bill.
I think it was like two or three weeks ago and he just said,
am I to believe Kentucky has a solid football team?
It was completely out of the blue.
There's no no conversation going on.
He just one Saturday afternoon, Bill just texted me that.
I was like, yeah, they actually are very, very solid.
I think solid is the perfect word.
Yeah, yeah, they're not they're not great.
I go to guy with a few obscure things is like, you know,
each sports fan, yeah, like I'm like, who do I think is going to give me
either the right answer or who do I think?
You know, if I just want someone to agree with me, I have like different people
that I texted you like, you know, you moved up the draft on the draft day.
You moved up when you stormed out of Michigan, the big house.
Yeah, chicken shit football, chicken shit football.
Repeating that over and over again when Wisconsin was losing to them.
I just the image of that was so funny to me.
And then just the passion that you left the big house having a good time,
having drinks, could not sit there in stomach watching your own team lose.
It was despite the money that you spent there.
You know what it was punting from the it was punting from Michigan's 40 yard line.
That's chicken shit football. I'm not going to invest any more time in it.
We actually talked about it on on Monday's show.
I don't know if you saw the Lions and Bengals game, but we were talking
about the sad field goal. There's nothing worse in sports than when your team
does a sad field goal. The Lions were down 27, nothing with eight minutes
left in the fourth quarter and they kicked a field goal.
And it's just the most defeating thing that can possibly happen.
They cut it to a 24 point game and you're just like, OK, this is
well, they didn't get shut out.
They're going to do sex on the board with them.
I don't know. I'm not of that madam's football where like, you know,
everybody's like, go for it, go for it.
Like the way football coaches call games now is the way us
drunks used to be yelling, making the same decisions in the upper deck.
Like go for it, fake pun.
But what's funny is, is you're finding that it's not as risky
as everybody thought.
I think nowadays with how the field is just so much more opened up.
But like if it was like fourth and two, the whole time I was growing up,
nobody ever went. Yeah, nobody ever was like that was like a mile for some reason.
But now, you know, I don't know, the West Coast offense,
spread offense, I'm not good with that stuff, whatever.
There's like five is like one running back or like no running back.
I think he can get two yards at that level.
It seems it takes coaches like probably two generations
to catch up to what math says about any given subject.
So like once people started to get smart about the numbers,
it took some of the younger guys to get into the NFL as like assistance,
maybe just like offensive analysts and start having them work their way up
the chain until they got actually to a position of influence where they could
tell the coach like, hey, you're actually 50% more likely to win the game
if you don't punt on fourth and one from the 40 yard line.
You know, it's like stuff that you I think people learn by playing video games.
Yes. No, absolutely.
Lane Kiffin coaches like someone plays mad where it's like anything,
anything that's not fourth in like 15, he's like, fuck it.
I'm going. Yeah.
And your coaches are also the big thing is they were just afraid of getting fired.
Like if you go for it, doesn't Lane Kiffin get a new job every like two,
three years? That's also like playing mad.
Yeah. Right.
Where you just keep changing teams.
Coaches don't get fired anymore unless they call the commissioner a pussy,
in which case, like that's the that's the one thing that you can't do.
But if you're, if you're a college coach and you're going for it,
it's tough to punish a guy for being too aggressive because we've learned that
if you're being too aggressive, it just means that you want to win. Right.
Well, I think there's there's some happy medium between the analytics
and then also actually coaching and knowing your team,
because analytics and numbers is also why the Seahawks lost to the Patriots
because that play the whole year.
The worst it was was an incomplete and that's some other high percentage.
It was a touchdown, except on that play that lost in the Super Bowl
and it was an interception.
So I mean, what wasn't in the analytics was Bill Belichick knowing
about that play and having having everybody practice it.
So I don't know.
Sometimes analytics makes sense.
Sometimes it doesn't.
But I love stats and stuff.
And I don't know.
And there's something funny to me that like
athletes can figure out how to coach a game better than like, you know,
some, you know, square jawed football guy speaking of which.
And oh, Geron.
Oh, yeah. I mean, it's it's a guy supposed to fucking recruit a Joe Burrow
every other year.
OK, it's just too horny.
He got fired for being horny.
Here's here's my.
So I've had a couple of days to process it because we love coach.
Oh, we've had him on the show a bunch.
We interviewed him right.
It was one of the best like moments of our lives right after the national
championship that you were at.
We got to interview Joe Burrow and coach.
Oh, the next morning we were still blackout drunk interviewing them.
Great, great guy.
I think he's beloved.
He will be beloved when we have a little perspective.
I do think the LSU fan base wanted him out this year
because LSU is one of those schools.
There's like probably three or four schools in the entire country
where if you have two bad seasons in a row, they want you gone.
And like, that's just SEC football.
That's just what the culture is where it's like you can't.
They can't stomach those two bad seasons because you're just supposed
to win all the time at LSU, but I just, I, I respect the coach.
Oh, he also snicks, save and puts a lot of pressure on everybody in that conference.
Yeah, but he reached the pinnacle and he had it.
You know, he lived, he, he should be remembered for having one of the best
college football teams of all time, putting it all together, hiring Joe Brady
when he was kind of an unknown, getting Joe Burrow 15 and 0
and then maybe enjoying it for a couple of years.
I do think that what big cats saying about Nick Saban compared to coach
Joe in a way is actually very correct.
It's like Nick Saban is a psychopath.
Right. He is a fucking weird guy to be this driven after all these years.
He doesn't even like winning.
He just, he just loves the fact that he's not currently losing.
He's he's a total psycho, great football coach, probably the best of all time
in college football, but as a human being, he's fucking nuts.
Well, what the hell is his name?
You have steak. I always forget his name.
Urban Meyer. Urban Meyer.
He the guy was almost so very to do a face plant into his penny loafers.
I mean, he looked like the guy like when the strippers leading him
to the ATM, just cleaning out his pockets.
The guy where was his buddies?
Yeah. And then what I love is the woman who knows he's married
and coming up and back in her ass up onto his dick.
She gets no shit at all.
She got a little.
But yeah, no, they're protected like NFL quarterbacks.
Yeah. I mean, it's that whole story was fucking insane.
But I just think the coach, the rat that filmed it.
Yeah, I know. Well, I mean, if I was in the ball and bar, I'd be like, oh, man,
he's getting after it tonight.
I hate to see it. You hate to see it.
You just laugh and go and like, I'm, you know, the guy's in a drunken stupor.
I mean, you're going to that's how you're going to judge the guy in that moment.
After I don't know how many Moscow mules the guy had.
Well, maybe he's a Michigan fan that found it down in the peanuts.
Yeah. Yeah.
Celebrating oh, and five.
But I think the thing with coach, oh, that chick is a predator.
When he got that hammered, and all of a sudden she sees her moment.
Yeah. And he's I mean, he he kept his hands to himself sort of.
But coach, oh, one last thing.
So his career, if you look at it, he is like the he's the people's champ
because every time he's had like a big moment, a peak, he's then fallen back down.
So it's a roller coaster.
You know, he got hired at Ole Miss.
It was a big deal.
And then things fall apart.
When somebody recruits the guy that then wins you a championship,
these asshole sports fans act like that.
That doesn't count because it only happened once.
Yeah. No, it's like John Gruden, John Gruden.
Oh, he was an overrated coach.
It's like he's got a Super Bowl win.
And they're like, oh, that was Tony Dungey's team.
It's like, first of all, he coached Tampa Bay to a Super Bowl.
Tony Dungey did not.
He also fucking coached in that game against his old team, the Oakland Raiders.
That was so good.
Even when he wasn't there, they still got there.
So I think that's a watch that Tony Dungey got a ring with the Colts after
their owner was sit on the competition committee, made how the Patriots covered
their receivers illegal and then they stole our fucking offense.
I would say that John Gruden is he's overrated.
He's an average football coach compared to other football coaches twice
when they were laying in the gutter.
Have you looked going to affect your win percentage?
Have you looked at his like season by season?
He said he had 14 full seasons.
The NFL can't because of the glare of his Super Bowl ring.
Fucking nitpicking.
No, I'm not.
The purpose of being a super coach in the NFL is to take a team to the Super Bowl.
He did it and he gets no fucking crap.
I'm not saying he's one of the greatest of all time.
But to say that the guy was like average, listen, that guy when the when the Raiders
when he coaches the Raiders, the Raider fans show up.
They make money and they become a competitive team.
That's that's that's that's a hundred million dollar contract.
You over 10 years, that's 10 million a year.
That's chicken shit. That's chicken shit. Money.
I don't think I wouldn't say.
But he's not a great coach.
I think he's a coach that won a Super Bowl.
Whoever said he was a great coach.
OK, good. All right, we look like he was making 100 million a year.
Yeah, no, we agree overrated.
Yeah, a million a year for John Gruden is a fair fucking price.
We we agree that he wasn't a great great because that's the other thing.
Is like, if you the one piece of advice that give anyone in life
is to have incredible success early, because then you can kind of ride on that
for a very long time. You're being a cop.
Listen, if the only way you say that he's not a great coach
is you have to compare him to the greatest of all time.
But if you just talk about coaching, we've all coached Little League or Pop Warner.
This guy made it all the way to a Super Bowl in that job in one one.
Well, but then you're doing the opposite.
You're saying like John Gruden.
Balancing it out.
If you put him up against Pop Warner coaches, he's a great coach.
No, I'm saying that's like you did an HBO special and you crushed it,
but you only did one and then people act like you didn't kill on your HBO special.
Right. So I would submit like John Gruden is a better football coach
than ninety nine point nine percent of people who were ever born in the world.
But compared to other NFL coaches, I'd say he's like Barty,
Tophall Brown, Bill Belichick.
Yeah, everybody's going to crumble.
Yeah, especially the longer your career gets in the NFL,
it actually is tough to have a long career hovering around five hundred.
Nick Saban is one of the greatest coaches of all time.
But at the pro level, he got he got his ass kicked with the dolphins.
But does that mean he's a bad coach?
Was it a bad franchise? I mean, look, you get coached to fucking Lions.
I mean, that's a family owned
um, franchise.
And the first guy who bought it was a rabid sport football fan.
And they won like three with Bobby Lane.
And then ever since then, you know, it's the kids get it.
And what are they going to say?
No, to inheriting a billion dollar corporation.
Yeah, no, I actually think Jim Caldwell is maybe the greatest coach of all time.
If you put it into real perspective, because he took the Lions to the playoffs.
That's what I would say with Baker Mayfield.
They're already jumping off his thing.
He's got he brought the Browns to the playoffs.
Yeah. No, I know the playoff game, the Baker thing.
It's it's really hard in today's NFL because I think we just we frame everything
around like if you don't have
Patrick Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady or like Russell Wilson
and Lamar Lamar Jackson, you don't have anyone.
Josh Allen throw him in there.
But like Baker Mayfield, I think more just since a 24 hour news cycle.
Yeah. And they just had they every week, they got to be like, you know,
you know, were we wrong about, you know, Russell Westbrook?
You know, is he not good anymore?
He has like one bad game.
Did we jump the gun on this other Hall of Famer?
It's just to get people like me standing in their underwear
as they're brushing their teeth, yelling from the other room at the TV.
You screaming at Stephen A. Smith from the other room.
People tried it with Patrick Mahomes.
They started to dip their toe in the water with it.
They're like, is Patrick Mahomes bad now with Lamar Jackson?
It's already like we already got the is Lamar Jackson, the greatest quarterback
of all time, which was quickly followed by has the league figured out Lamar Jackson.
And now we're back into has Lamar Jackson figured out the league again.
As has he matured. Yeah.
And older, wiser Lamar Jackson in his third season.
I mean, that guy's live like, you know, it's like, you know,
it's like Falcon Crest back in the day.
Somebody's dead and then they come back from the dead.
I thought you died in a plane crash. No, I'm back.
I married your sister.
All right. I got to get going here because I got some.
I got a thing I got to do here in about 28 minutes
and it's about a 20 minute drive.
Okay. So, so tell us last thing with your, your tour.
So your tickets on sale now, 23 cities, something like that.
Yeah. 23 cities, a bunch of cool venues and stuff.
And I don't know, I got a whole new hour.
You know, it's cool as I already did it.
I did a gig at Red Rocks in Boulder, Colorado, and I filmed it.
So I think I already got my special, which I've never done a tour where I
already had my special. So I get to just have, you know, I already got an hour
and a half that works.
And now I get to sort of like build the new one as this tour ends.
So I'm thinking right as this tour ends, maybe my next special comes out
and I already have another hour.
I'm ahead of the game because of this COVID.
I just a quick idea. And I know you got to go, but have you ever thought
about putting together now, not to, you know, out ourselves as maybe horny guys,
but have you ever, have you ever watched, have you ever, have you ever
maybe come across a compilation on online where it's a compilation
of the finishing acts of a porn scene?
Maybe you should do that where it's like you just telling you,
hitting the punchline over and over and over at every stop and all the laughs.
And it's, it's a lot uploaded to like one of those porn sites.
Yeah, you boy. Yeah.
Just like Bill Burr, watch Bill Burr make everyone burst.
Comedy, compilation. Yes.
You, you actually think about getting in like branching outside of porn.
Yeah, I feel like they've kind of become siloed where it's just,
I can't go to you porn and get all my viewing experiences.
Yeah, you just nailed the joke. It's the last line.
It would be something hilarious.
Watching an hour of a guy saying punchlines and listening to people lose it.
And you have no idea what they're laughing about.
Yes, it's just a good part. It's just a good part.
Me and my friends, my knucklehead friends, I used to drink with in high school.
We used to watch Jeopardy the same way.
We'd hear the question.
We'd be looking at you like we had no idea.
And then some egghead would answer it.
We would just laugh at how stupid we were.
I think there might be something there.
All right, some to some to leave you with.
But Bill, thanks as always, man.
It's always fun to have you on.
And good luck. Yeah, I love coming on this show, man.
Anytime, anytime you have a fallout.
Yeah. Yeah. And anytime you're in New York, you got to come back in.
Yeah, person or anytime I got a random text.
I'm sending it your way.
Perfect. I love it. I'll answer them all.
All right, guys, we'll see you. Thank you.
See you, Bill.
All right, bye-bye.
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Okay, here he is, the beast.
And now for something completely different.
Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest.
He is the beast, one of the best rugby players of all time.
I'd say all time.
Tende Matau Arira.
I hope I did that right.
I didn't probably.
Tende Matau Arira, I'm gonna have to give you some lists.
Okay, but the beast.
Yeah, beast.
And obviously I'm not a huge rugby guy.
PFT is a huge rugby guy.
So it will be more of his questions.
But I do have to ask,
is the beast the coolest nickname of all time?
Because that's got it.
Like at what point in your life
did you get the nickname, the beast?
And you're like, yeah, this fits.
I'm the beast.
So it's actually a funny story.
So when I was born in Zimbabwe,
I don't know if you guys are familiar with Zimbabwe.
We have a guy who we work with who's from Zimbabwe.
Oh yeah, you always see, you know.
So I happened to be the heaviest baby ever
to be born in Zimbabwe at the time.
1985 hours, well over 5kgs.
So I was a beast at birth.
What was the pounds?
Geez, what's 5.5kgs in pounds?
12.1 pounds, that's a big baby.
So I was big.
My mom reminds me every second day.
So you were the beast from birth?
I was the beast from birth, man.
That's pretty awesome, that is pretty awesome.
So yeah, as Big Cap mentioned,
our producer, Zah, who works here,
he's from Harare, right?
And he said that he went to school with you.
That he actually attended the same school.
Were you there when the aliens came?
What aliens?
Aliens came to the Harare boys' school.
I was not, yeah, I'm not familiar with that episode.
Oh yeah, he's got like, are you an alien?
You might be an alien then.
He showed us like there were a bunch of news cameras
that came to the school and interviewed them about it.
How about the aliens?
Oh, geez, nah.
They came at recess one day in Harare.
But you're famous for being a South African rugby player.
You play for South Africa, you won a World Cup there.
At what point did you decide like South Africa
was going to be the country
that you wanted to represent internationally?
I think I made that decision when I was 16 years old,
because from that age, I knew I was very talented
in the game, you know, I've got a rugby.
And there was no league in Zimbabwe to aspire to play for.
So the closest thing to home was South Africa.
So I was watched, you know, South African rugby,
you know, I watched Super Rugby,
I watched the Spring Box play
and I was huge fans of, you know,
certain guys that actually were born in Zimbabwe
but representing South Africa.
Guy, Bobby Skinstein, you might be familiar with the name.
So I knew that this was the place for me, you know,
to get to, to realize my dream.
So when I was 18 years old, we were invited on a tour
to play against a few schools in the Durban area
on the East Coast in South Africa.
And it was there where I was scouted by the Sharks.
They saw me running around,
they were impressed with my play, my school sit.
They offered me a bursary to come and study
and pursue my dream.
So I made that decision, man,
and that was like a dream come true, you know,
when that offer came.
So yeah, I knew that this is the place for me.
So for people who don't follow rugby, myself included,
how, like, describe why you are the beast
and why you are so well known.
Like, what is your game like
that is so much better than everyone else?
You can put the humbleness aside for a second.
We're allowing that.
Okay, I think, you know, what makes me the beast
or what made me the beast is, you know,
I always showed me there's feats of strength, you know.
In the games, I don't know if you've seen
my iconic lift that I did in 2012.
I had a guy that I lifted above my head and held him,
and it was probably 120 kgs, so that's quite heavy.
It was a kickoff at the start of the half, right?
And as a prop, sometimes you gotta lift
some of you guys above your head
to try to catch the ball,
they get up in the air a little bit higher.
This guy fell backwards over the beast's head.
The beast just held him up there above his head,
probably saved him from a broken neck.
Did he buy you a beer after that?
Yeah, he definitely did, he definitely did, yeah.
So he was grateful.
And then another thing is obviously my scrumming prowess,
you know, I was very strong in the scrum,
you know, I destroyed a few opposition in my career.
So that's what kinda gave me, you know, that name, you know.
It just echoed, you know, throughout my career,
and people chanted it every single time when I played.
So it made it really special, you know.
So yeah, I would say the massive feat of strength,
that's what made me the beast.
That's pretty cool to just be like,
I'm the feats of strength that I showed over year, over year.
My physicality and feats of strength
made people call me a beast, yeah.
That's pretty intimidating when you say that out loud.
What about in like high school or secondary school,
I don't know what it's called in Zimbabwe,
but as you're growing up, I have to imagine that, you know,
you were the biggest baby to ever be born in Zimbabwe.
You were probably pretty big
when you were starting to play like Junior Levels or Rugby.
Were the other parents in town like concerned
to let their children play rugby against you?
Yeah.
So yeah, I remember a specific time in my high school career
when one of the parents actually asked, you know,
for my birth certificate, you know,
just to see if I was legitimate,
if I was actually born in the same year as their son.
So it was quite, yeah, it was quite,
it was something that I just embraced
that I was just big, you know, I was, yeah,
I was just naturally gifted, I was strong.
So I had to show that I was the real age quite a few times.
It's a compliment really.
Like in baseball, if you get accused of cheating
when you're a pitcher, you should be like, thank you.
Thank you for thinking that I'm that good,
that I must be doing witchcraft on the ball.
You know, so if another parent's like, no,
we don't believe that this guy is really the age
he says it's like, yeah, I am and I'm just that good.
Yeah.
Yeah, now it is a compliment.
Yeah, so I just took it in my stride, man, and just owned it.
I just pulled up a video that was an incredible highlight.
So yeah, I get it now.
I get the beast now.
I get that nickname now, it makes sense.
Now, I know you've probably been asked this before,
but did you ever consider professional football in America?
Did you ever think about playing college football
or anything like that?
Because clearly your strength and speed,
like that combination is something
that translates to any sport I'd imagine.
Did you ever like, did anyone ever reach out
and try to get you to maybe giving a tryout?
So yeah, something happened back in 2010.
You guys are familiar with five hour energy.
Yeah.
So the owner was launching the energy drink in South Africa.
So he was looking for brand ambassadors
and my name was put forward that I fit the brand
and I met him and then he asked me,
have you ever actually tried to get into the NFL?
So he kind of looked at me and said,
you look similar, you got a similar build to Ray Lewis.
You could fit the mold, you could do the transition.
So I was like, I never thought about it.
So he actually dropped the seat.
I think he was sponsoring the Seaworks at the time.
So he told me that he would actually assist me
to get into the combine.
So I almost came to the NFL combine.
But the only thing is that if I had done that
out of probably risked my contract getting torn up
in South Africa, so I was established already.
I had a family, I had kids,
so it was just too much of a risk for me.
Watching the game, watching American football,
do you think you could, at your peak, could have competed?
Yep, definitely.
I believe I could have been a great linebacker.
Fullback, yeah.
Yeah, I think I would have.
I love Aaron Gordon.
He's probably my favorite player.
So yeah, I watch a little bit because of this guy right here.
Okay, nice.
Nice, we love it.
We could still arrange a tryout if you wanted.
We've got a couple GMs on speed dial we could reach out to.
Yeah, I'm keen, let's do it.
Yeah, but now are you playing for,
are you still on the D.C. Glory?
No, so I played for Glory last year.
Then I officially retired from the game.
Congratulations.
No, thank you.
But the season was cut short, you know,
it was unfortunate because of the pandemic.
So I was based in D.C. for about three months,
and it was a fun time, and I was doing a lot of fun things
working with Washington Youth rugby,
trying to promote the sport, you know,
working with kids in the inner city schools.
So it was so rewarding, you know, at the end of my career
to actually try and help grow the game.
So yeah, I was doing some great work in D.C.
What was the level of competition like
when you were playing, when you did get to play
for the team here in D.C.?
Were you having to take it easy on some of the other guys?
Were you like, man, I could be,
I could actually kill you on this field right now.
So I'm gonna slow up.
No, I think it was very competitive, you know?
It was quite physical, I was,
so I think in my first game I played against the Sea Wolves.
So, you know, it was a shock to my system
that, whoa, these guys are really coming out for me, you know?
But I actually, yeah, I actually respected that.
And I think I would, if I had to compare it
to the South African rugby outside,
it's probably on the same level as the Curry Cup, you know?
So it was quite, yeah, impressive.
And I think the league is just getting better every year.
The level of rugby is getting better.
So, you know, it's just the injection of the, you know,
the international players coming into the league.
That's really kind of, you know.
Now, reading up about you, you also like, you went to,
are you currently an MBA program?
Yes, I'm studying an MBA.
Yeah, and so like you, rugby is at a point where it was your,
obviously your full-time job when you were at the height of it,
but I would assume it's not like something that, you know,
like an MBA or NFL player, like the top level guys,
they never have to work another day in their life.
So are you, are you going to be working like a regular job,
you know, coming out and be like,
I was the best at my sport?
That always fascinates me.
Like, you're going to walk into Deloitte and be like,
yeah, I was the beast.
I am the beast.
Yeah, so yeah, funny you mentioned that.
So I did the whole transition into my next chapter.
Fortunately, you watched I was playing
and I always thought about my next chapter.
You know, I was prepared for it.
You know, so I was invested in a security company.
Big, the biggest in South Africa,
became a shareholder, I watched I was playing
and yeah, I started learning about the industry.
So it was a natural progression after I retired
to join the business.
So currently I'm running a subsidiary, a CEO.
Okay, so you're the boss.
That makes you feel better.
Yeah, okay, all right, that's a lot better, yeah.
So that's all, that's all I had to study the MBA
just to get a-
Got it, got it.
I was like worried that you're going to go to,
you know, do the MBA and then like start
as like a junior analyst, like no,
you own the company, all right, all right.
I make you feel a lot better because you're the beast.
Like that would suck if you're the beast.
That would suck, man, that's all.
Okay, so this was an MBA was kind of an addition
to what you already do in business world.
Yeah, that was smart though.
Yeah, the transition seems like it's going well,
it kind of sells itself.
If you have an opportunity to like hire a security company
and you have one that's like, okay,
I could either hire the one that's run by the beast
or one that's not run by the beast.
Why would you ever take the other company, you know?
Yeah, it's a fact, yeah.
So I try to leverage my brand as much as I can, you know?
Yes, absolutely, absolutely.
I got a question about your Twitter.
So you're a crying emoji guy on MBA posts,
kind of Twitter guy.
I've noticed that.
What, so who do you root for?
Is it, are you at this league?
You just like the story lines.
Because I saw there was a meme,
Sixers, stay with us or go to the moon
and Ben Simmons did it with the rocket ship
and you just have like six crying emojis.
I like that.
Lakers adding Rhonda to the same locker room as Westbrook.
It's a video crying emojis.
I like this.
So who's your favorite player?
And like, do you have a team in the MBA?
So I am a huge MBA fan.
Okay.
So I'm a hugely brand fan.
Oh, yes, the door.
Exactly.
So I've changed my jizzies obviously.
Yeah, three times now, you know, from Cleveland.
Yeah, he has no loyal team, yeah, yeah.
Lakers, so a lot of guys, you know,
they kind of pick on me saying I'm not loyal,
but I'm loyal to LeBron.
So I love the Lakers.
I've been obviously, you know,
following what's going on.
I watch games quite, it's quite late.
You know, they show like a three in the morning.
In South Africa, but I still watch, you know,
so I'm a huge LeBron fan.
I follow the guy like, yeah.
What is it that you like about LeBron?
I'm just curious.
I think LeBron is the ultimate package.
You know, he is a great, you know, athlete.
You know, he's a great human being.
You know, he stands for so much that is right.
You know, he stands out for the community.
And you know, he's woke up, you know,
when it comes to, you know,
campaigns like the Black Lives Matter,
you know, he always thinks about other people than himself.
And obviously he's a great father.
You know, he's to look at his kids now, you know,
the way he's raising them, you know,
he's a great father figure.
So he's a complete package, you know,
so that's how I look at him.
And it's obviously longevity.
The way, you know, he's been so consistent over the,
you know, a long time, he's 37 now.
He's a year older than me.
So, you know, I always just aspire to be like him
because, you know, he's so consistent.
He's won four rings, he's going to win more.
He's lost six times in the finals, too.
I, you just, I mean, you just kind of like kneecap me there
because I hate LeBron,
but then you started talking about him as a person
and I can't really argue about that fact.
Because LeBron does seem like a very good father
and obviously good with the community and everything.
But I hate him all the time.
Space Jam 2 sucked.
Yeah, Space Jam 2 sucked.
Your comment?
Are you defending his acting as well?
Alcoholics, sir?
Maybe, alcoholic?
I haven't watched Space Jam 2, sir.
That's how I, yeah.
If you watch Space Jam 2 and you'll be walking in
with a Kevin Duranch or is he the next step?
Guaranteed.
Never, never, never in a million years.
So, is NBA big in South Africa?
Is it like grown?
Have you noticed that?
It's, you know, yeah, NBA is growing in a big way
because I think, you know,
there's been actually a massive focus from NBA to invest.
So I'm actually quite close to a lot of the NBA executives,
especially that work in Africa.
So I'm sure you're quite, I don't know if you're familiar,
there was a new league that was launched this year.
Yes.
The BAL.
Yeah.
The basketball African league.
Joachim Noah was part of that, yeah.
Joachim Noah J. Cole was there.
So, you know, there's a lot of interest.
There's never been avenues for young kids, you know,
to aspire to get opportunities.
Because, you know, when you,
there's kids that are actually really talented.
You could get a few point guards in South Africa.
Yes, they're not the tallest guys,
but you can get some guys that can dribble the ball.
They've got a, you know, a massive skill set and can play.
But the only thing is that, you know,
they don't have an opportunity.
So this league is actually, you know,
quite huge for the whole of Africa.
That's awesome.
So, yeah.
So I play, I play a game of pickup like every second week
because I'm, I actually play basketball.
So what's your game like?
Rebounds.
Yeah.
Yeah, do you like, I'd imagine you can box people out.
Do you ever find yourself like semi-tackling people?
Because it is funny watching every watch basketball play,
like when you watch pickup basketball,
you can be like, all right, that guy played hockey.
That guy played football.
Like that guy played baseball.
I would imagine that guy played rugby as like,
he's just starting to scrum with everyone
in the middle of the court.
No, it's, yeah, that's a fact, man.
You know, every time I do a screen, you know,
I knock somebody out.
Yeah.
I knock somebody out.
I wouldn't want to play with you.
I'd play with you on my team.
Man, how much do you bench right now?
At the moment, 190 kgs, so 190 times 2.2 pounds.
That sounds like it's heavy.
It sounds like it's over 400 pounds.
198 kgs.
No, it's close to 400.
So you're still in like, you're keeping in game shape.
What about injuries?
Cause I'd imagine there's a million that you had.
Rugby feels like one of those sports
that you ever talked to anyone who played rugby,
they're like, yeah, I broke my neck.
I broke my arm.
I did this.
Did you have a ton of injuries?
Man, I was so fortunate.
Really?
The worst I had was a broken ankle, you know?
So I just played so much rugby, you know,
back-to-back seasons without suffering, you know,
a lot of injuries.
So I was just very fortunate, man.
I guess I created it to my conditioning coach, man.
I had a great coach.
In jeans, I'd say.
Yeah, in jeans.
Yeah, in also jeans as well.
Also mom and dad, you're a beast.
You're a beast.
So yeah, man, I'll claim it.
I'm a beast.
So I played a little bit at Division I men's level,
which is nowhere near as good,
even as like major league rugby
in the United States right now.
But a lot of the props that I played with,
which is your position,
they have like, you know,
as their career gets longer and longer,
they have to get, you know,
shoulder issues start to pop up,
especially the props and neck issues.
There are guys that I know that have gotten MRIs
that have spent like their entire life playing lucid prop
and one side of their body is now bigger and over calcified.
Like their bones are physically bigger on one side
because you just spend so much time hitting that side.
Did you have to actually like work to counter train
the other side of your body
to make sure that you weren't getting like overuse injuries?
Yes.
And now it was like a massive emphasis.
You know, it was part of my training regimes.
Make sure that, you know,
whatever I did on the right,
right inside, I did on the left hand side.
So I always try to equal, you know,
because you don't want to have that.
You don't want to have one dominant side.
So it's important to get that balance.
So I always make sure in my training, you know,
I did the same thing as the other side.
So it's quite important.
So 198 kilograms, by the way, is 436 pounds.
No big deal.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
That's way more than Billy football can bench.
That's a shit load of weight.
No, I can bench a lot.
I'll claim it in the Springbok team.
Nobody could bench more than me.
Yeah.
Being the strongest guy on a rugby team,
like a World Cup winning rugby team is such a flex.
Well, you have to be if you're the beast.
Like this is, it's like a chicken and egg thing.
You had, you were born the beast,
but then you had to live up to it.
Because if you were not benching 436 pounds,
you're like, this guy's not the beast.
Exactly.
Like, who is he, man?
He's beauty then.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I've been trying to think of ways to bring offloading
into the NFL and teach players how to like,
go into contact, pass the ball laterally or backwards
and extend to play that way.
Because you can get obviously so many more yards off it
because you suck the defenders in
and you're able to find a guy open in space.
But it's just, it's a skill set that you have to work on
for years to be able to do it comfortably, right?
Like, especially for a bigger guy going into contact
to be able to like position his hands in just the right way
to be able to pass the ball securely to his teammate.
You should actually think about being a consultant
to different NFL teams, to different coaches
and be like, I can teach you how to teach this skill properly.
Cause I do think that the game of football
at some point there's going to be a coach
that figures out the advantage to doing it.
And that coach is going to do some real damage.
And then other coaches are going to want to learn
how to do it too.
Have you talked to anybody?
Have you ever spoke with like a professional football player
in the United States about like, you know
what they think about offloading the ball?
No, so I haven't had the chance
but I think it's a great point that you raise there.
I think, you know, I've watched a bit of NFL, you know?
And I think that they don't utilize the space, you know
the best of their ability, you know?
I think if you get the offloading, you know
then you get the chance to actually, you know
get the ball to somebody in a better position
than you when you get tackle.
So I think there's a lot of space, you know?
Here's the quarterback, you know, he can see everything
and he can throw a dime and, you know
get somebody to catch it and score in the end zone.
But the fact that it matters that, you know
if you get all the players, you know
accustomed to offloading the ball
I think it will just do a massive world of good, you know?
It would be an unstoppable offense.
The first person to figure out how to do it correctly
is going to be unstoppable.
Yeah.
Yeah, I agree with that.
I would love to help.
So yeah, so you guys put me forward, man
throw my name in the head.
Okay.
I can help.
All right, I had one last question.
This might be a weird question
but I would imagine you can drink a few beers.
How many beers does it take for the beast to get drunk?
I think people actually want to know like it's
I would imagine if you had two cores light
which we love cores light, you're not
it's not like, you know, it's not doing anything.
So like after a match, how many beers is like
an average the beast, you know, post match?
You're going to love for this
cause I've never been a big drinker.
Okay.
So that's a totally fine answer.
I'm not either.
Yeah.
That's totally fine.
So it's like, yeah, man, I'm a lightweight
cause when I drank cause I was so fit
it would take a few, you know, to get me drunk.
So yeah, man, I was always quite strict with myself, you know
never touched alcohol.
I would train hard and stay, you know, stay clean.
So now probably I have a few more gin and tonics
than no more.
So I would say probably 10 gin and tonics
will get me over.
Yeah.
What a little I know about rugby is they just go
and bash each other and like play this really hard sport
and then get drunk after.
Yeah.
Nice effect.
That's the old kind.
Yeah.
It still happens, but it's like, it's like back in the day
it was, yeah, it was quite excessive.
But because of the professionalism, you know
that has been brought into the game,
players now have to only drink three to four drinks
after a game.
Yeah.
Cause your coach is like literally looking at you.
You know, they're like keeping tabs on you.
You know, there's a curfew.
You can't go out.
You can't, you know, obviously go overboard.
So there's a lot of restrictions.
So you can't really do that, you know, that much.
Yeah.
Nowadays.
Have you, have you ever gotten into a fight on the pitch?
Like a fist fight?
Yeah.
Who'd you knock out?
Oh, what did they do to, cause there's so much violence
that happens in and around the scrum and the rocks
that like at what, at what point does it become an issue
where you're like, we're actually going to fight now.
So yeah, the probably the worst fight I had was
in a local game in South Africa.
We were playing a team called the cheaters.
And they happened to be a guy who was just, you know,
irritating me.
You know, he was throwing cheap shorts and in the scrum,
you know, and yeah, I had enough.
You know, and the next thing I just gave him a big smack
on the face.
I got, I got, yeah, open like, yeah, literally a flat one.
That's almost more disrespectful than, than a closed fist.
I would rather be knocked out and get slapped in the face.
I would have probably gotten a red card.
So I got a yellow card.
I had to go sit in the cinnamon for 10 minutes,
but I was proud that I did that.
Yeah.
Because the guy was being, yeah.
Yeah, you needed it.
Well, it's been awesome, man.
We really appreciate you stopping by the beast.
It's good to meet the beast.
It's not a lot of beasts you get to meet.
So appreciate it.
No, thank you.
Thank you for having me.
And yeah, it's great to chat to you guys.
And hopefully you're there, the USA match next week
against the old blacks.
I think it's going to be big.
Yeah.
I think we're going to, we're going to air this next Wednesday.
Yeah.
Right.
So it's this Saturday.
Is it at, is it at FedExField?
Yes.
Ralph John, Maryland.
It's going to be the United States
against the New Zealand All Blacks.
We're going to get killed.
How, how many points is New Zealand going to be to spy?
I think USA right, we've got a chance, man.
It's going to be a draw.
It's going to be a draw.
It's going to be a draw.
They're going to rise up to the occasion.
There you go.
All right.
Sounds very diplomatic.
All right.
Thank you so much.
No, thank you.
Thanks, thanks.
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We got Fire Fest of the Week.
Send everyone on their way week seven.
We'll see everyone at Kilroy's in Bloomington,
Pup Punk, tomorrow night or tonight.
Gonna be a great time.
You know what?
I need to find a place that I can get my hands
on a pair of Indiana basketball warmup pants for tomorrow.
Can you do that for me?
I wanna wear those on stage tomorrow night.
I will work on that for you.
Hank, your Fire Fest of the Week.
My Fire Fest is last week, I was in Baton Rouge
and I left my...
You're not an island boy.
Yeah, I am.
I left my headphones in my hotel room
so I have not had headphones this entire week.
Oh, that's tough.
And I felt like just an absolute psychopath
on the train in the morning.
Wait, you didn't get another pair?
Not yet.
That is crazy.
Didn't Jake say that he has another pair of headphones?
I just don't... Last week.
Listen, I'm not saying AirPods,
but going on the train without headphones is crazy.
Well, it's like one of those things.
I get on and then I forget I have headphones.
I go to work, I'm like, I'm gonna get headphones
and then I forget and then and now we're here.
I'll give you headphones.
I'll walk back from the train if I forgot my headphones.
I've done that.
Yeah.
If the train is not off, I'll go to put my headphones in,
be like, oh, I forgot them, go back home.
There's nothing worse than being alone on a train
with your own thoughts.
Yeah.
Especially on your way into work.
Yes.
Or you can be the guy, the psycho guy.
I don't know who these psychopaths are
that just play whatever they're listening to out loud.
Yeah.
And just look at their phone the entire time.
Not as crazy as the people who read books.
No, those aren't, I thought we said people.
Yeah.
Those are crazy.
All right, I'm sorry, Hank.
Thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
I have a pair of wired headphones if you'd like them.
No, I'm sorry.
I'm gonna get some eventually.
Heard that before.
Pifty.
So my fire fest is that I started watching succession
again this week and I completely forgot
what happened in the last season of succession.
So then I spent this entire first episode
just trying to remind myself of what's going on
and why they hate each other
and why people are on different sides.
And I just didn't, I didn't know.
By the end, I made up an entire story in my head
that I think is completely wrong,
but at the very least, it got me to like
start paying attention to this episode,
filling in the gaps a little bit.
So next Wednesday, we should start
doing our succession reviews.
Did you watch first episode, Hank?
Yeah.
I had the same thing because I totally forgot
and this is a spoiler.
If you haven't watched, make sure you don't listen
to the next two minutes.
But I think a lot of people are watching as they go along.
It's not an enormous spoiler,
but there it is, spoiler warning.
I totally forgot that Tom and Shiv were getting divorced.
Yeah, yeah.
Like that was one of those moments where I was like,
wait, do they not like each other?
Oh yeah, they don't like each other.
I didn't, I didn't remember either.
Everyone's the divorce island?
Yeah.
Island boy.
They went, they took that, they sat on the beach
and he was like, this isn't working.
That was one of those ones.
Let's just be honest here.
You're weak-minded if you go and watch the two minute recap.
Absolutely.
So be a man.
I invented.
Well, I thought I was gonna start
with the two minute recap.
Yeah, that's what I assumed.
And at that point, I was like,
I'm not going back and watching,
I'm getting myself up to speed.
That's for losers.
I created this story in my head.
It probably has nothing to do with the storyline,
but at the very least, it got me to a point
where I can now watch and observe what they're doing.
The only note that we'll save our recap for on Wednesday.
Yeah, we'll do it.
So one and two on Wednesday.
I just, I had one note.
It was Shiv, good Lord, dummy thick.
Bonk, bonk, bonk.
Dummy thick.
Bonk, bonk.
We knew that was your job.
Dummy.
You didn't even need to watch the first episode to have that.
Thick, thicker than a Bolo oatmeal.
Thicker than a Snicker.
Yeah, that will be, well,
because I think Jake and Billy are also catching up.
So they're gonna watch both seasons and then catch up.
Also best theme song on television.
Yes.
All right.
My Firefest is another podcast.
You wanna bleep it out?
The Ryan Recillo podcast, you don't have to bleep it out.
Oh no, wait, it's Dual Threat, Dual Threat podcast.
Frozen Pizza.
That's a great name for a podcast.
That was his name for his podcast, Dual Threat with Ryan Recillo.
Why are they called Dual Threat?
I don't know, I think he's a freak in the streets
and the sheets.
I think, yeah, it goes both ways.
Audio and visual.
Yeah, audio and visual.
No, we're actually very good friends with Ryan Recillo.
Well, maybe not Hank anymore.
So there was a listener life advice email
that said, who would win in a fight?
Recillo, Kyle, nephew Kyle, who we've met, good dude.
Saruti, who we've also met.
He's a soccer fan.
I think I've said enough.
And then me, PFT and Billy, who would win in a fight
and they, Ryan talked himself into his squad,
beating our squad.
Well, first of all, nephew Kyle is what, six, five, two, 40?
He's a big boy.
But I don't have faith in nephew Kyle when it comes.
I feel like I could submarine him.
And you have dad strength.
I do.
Dad strength is a real thing.
Do any of those guys have kids?
No.
So we've got dad strength.
They know of.
And then we've got war mode on the side.
Have any of them ever stepped into a ring?
Well, I actually think that the real fuckup that they had
was Hank is the third in this crew.
Not Billy.
I love Billy, but Hank is the producer.
He's been the producer since day one.
I don't know.
Rough and rowdy.
Yeah, Hank also fought and rough and rowdy.
Want to know.
I actually have a different take on it.
I think we're still hold so much anger in his shoulders
and neck from various people online saying, oh, did you vote
for Trump because of the taxes that he would probably kick
all of our asses.
So I don't really.
Waiting to wail on us.
Yeah, he's probably like, fuck you guys.
I'll put it this way.
If we if we held our fight at like a local school board
meeting, Ryan would break down the door, come inside and
start screaming at us until he was either dragged out or he
came up on stage and whooped the shit out of us.
I have no problem saying that I am not tough.
They did nail one thing about me.
They said that I'm a yo, yo, weight guy, which that is
absolutely true.
And yeah, I haven't been in a fist fight in probably 15
years and I don't ever hopefully plan on ever being in a
fist fight again.
So I have no problem just laying down and showing him my
belly and being like, hey, my face is too pretty to get
punched.
My I can't say the same for you, Ryan.
I've got a great strategy when it comes to a fist fight
because I'm not good at fist fighting.
Yeah.
But what I can do to most people is just go after their
legs, grab them.
We both fall to the ground and then hope to God that
somebody comes over and breaks the fight up.
Yeah.
And then I'm like, I took that guy down.
Well, Kyle did say and I think he nailed the part that if it
was Kyle and I matching up against each other, we'd
probably just end up in some kind of weird, like Tasmanian
devil rolling around bear hug situation because Kyle's a
smoker.
I'm not in good shape.
I think I probably have about 15 seconds.
Hank, I think you could kick Saruti's ass and I like
Saruti.
But again, soccer fan man bun says enough.
So now I have to go against Ryan and that that's not good.
Good luck.
That's not good luck.
Why can't I go against a soccer guy?
What if you who do you want to go against?
Yeah, you should.
All right, Hank's going against Russell.
So now we won.
Yeah, now we win the fight.
So so I don't I just roll around.
I have to kiss.
I have all the reach.
I'd get that.
Actually is what we would do if we showed up to the three of
them and we faced off and we just kissed all three of them.
What would they do then?
It'd be pretty tough.
I'd kiss.
I would kiss the fuck out of her solo.
Pretty tough to make him fight back at that point.
Kissed her solo till he didn't want to fight anymore.
Well, unless it turns into like a Johnny Cake situation and
Ryan gets so mad that you kissed him and fulfilled his long
time wish to kiss you.
Yes.
They punches you.
Well, and then we've got motorcycles in New Hampshire.
Then he comes back later and he's like, Hey, can I get those
Johnny?
Sometimes you tell yourself a lie for so long you forget when
to stop.
I'm OK, though, with saying we're so would beat all of our
asses because just a little life life advice.
Do you ever fight a guy who spends way too much time
thinking about who they could beat up?
That's a good point.
It's a fair point, right?
I would also say just never fight a guy whose clothes fit
really well.
Yeah.
And Ryan Ryan's clothes fit really well.
Ryan goes like half sizes, his weight fluctuates, too, depending
on how strong his gains are that week.
But he'll go to the store and he'll get like a half step up
from a medium.
Yes.
So yeah, that guy that's a very dangerous individual.
Never fight a guy who won a battle to the death with a
squat rack.
Yep.
That's another one.
That's true.
Like we could do we go on and on of why we don't want to
fight or still because you know what?
He's probably a fucking tough motherfucker.
I'm saying this with all honesty.
He would he would cave my skull.
We're also just very good at cheating.
So we would figure out a way to have been the rules.
Let's not show up to the fight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Good luck.
I did that with Jose Canseco.
Then you have to come to us.
You think that I am.
You think that I worry about how I look of having someone
fight in my in my place.
Uh-uh.
I've proven that I am a big enough pussy to have someone
else fight for me.
That is on the record.
So have fun with that.
I'm going to.
Oh, whoops.
Willie Clones fighting for me.
The big question is which side does Chris Long join?
Oh, we got to smoke him out before the fight.
What if we get Kyle?
They get Chris.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I would say I would take Kyle.
I think he's in better shape.
You know what?
We fucked this whole thing up.
Like, hey, guys, guess what?
Let's do the fight.
We just send Jake Marsh.
Boom.
He kicked all their asses.
One verse three.
Have fun with that.
Come on.
Sportsmanship to death.
Yeah.
But um, yeah, no, we're so it was actually very funny.
We do love our solo and he did.
I do love her so you do love her so I love her so.
But he the yo-yo thing.
They absolutely nailed about my weight.
There was one other hole and I wrote it down.
There's one other thing that did.
I'll be honest, hurt my feelings a little bit.
I think we're still said something like.
What did he say?
He said something along.
They were talking about my yo-yo weight.
And then he's like, yes, sometimes he's not exactly
the best looking dude talking about me.
And I was like, did you have to say sometimes?
He's like, did you have to go that far?
That's a compliment.
That's that's.
You think that is?
That's a compliment.
That's him saying like, sometimes I really wish
big cat would kiss fight me.
Yeah, that's true.
That he's he's trying to get me to fight him.
You know what?
Challenge accepted.
We should start a league where it's rough and rowdy
except kiss fighting.
Well, we could play kiss ball.
Yeah.
You'll play kiss ball.
Ryan, meet me.
Santa Monica peers one game of kiss ball.
You throw a ball up in the air and you kiss the other guy
as many times as you can till the ball lands.
Whoever kisses the most wins.
No, he said he's definitely not yoked.
And he said, yeah, he there's times when he has to ask himself.
He there's times when he sees pictures of me.
He's like, he's kind of attractive.
And then other times saying, maybe not attractive.
I was like, man, you didn't have to add.
Why did why did Ryan say that he wanted to fight me?
No, I think I think the person threw that out.
I think it was Billy versus Ryan, you versus Saruti,
which would be a bloodbath.
Bloodbath.
I like Saruti, but soccer fan, man.
Come on.
I'm actually wearing a soccer jersey right now.
But that's true.
But it's from the 94 World Cup in honor of Tony Miola.
I would imagine that Kyle and I would end up just probably
like being like, let's smoke a joint and just watch them fight.
That would be cool with me, too.
Either way, that was my firefress the week.
Also, someone pre-clogged my toilet in my bathroom at the hotel.
I don't know how that keeps happening.
So that sucks.
If you're like five minutes.
Why? Yeah, I don't think I don't know how it keeps happening.
I showed up in the toilet was clogged.
I had only gone once to the bathroom there and it was clogged.
So that's crazy to me.
It's I think I think there's a plot to pre-clog all my toilets.
All right.
Numbers and then we'll send everyone away.
Ninety five eight.
Billy's Firefest is at Swigley blocks on Twitter.
Oh, yeah.
And Jake's is that his charger overheated.
No, that sounds.
Yeah. Yeah. Perfect.
His is battery overheated.
So he thinks his battery might be fried.
Are you sure we didn't mix those two up?
I feel like I feel like yours is Billy's and mine is Jake's.
That's true.
I would like to see I release the release the DMs, Billy,
because I'm I'm guessing you said something to swag.
Well, there was a guy that works in like CRISPR technology,
like human genome altering shit that had Billy blocked on Twitter.
And when Billy got to meet him, he was like, hey, can you unblock me?
And he's like, wait a sec.
You're the guy that kept repeatedly asking me if I could make a bigger frog.
This is years before he worked here.
Billy was just like harassing, literally harassing a guy on Twitter.
Ask him to make a frog slightly larger than the previous frog.
Yes. But Billy, it's actually better, Billy,
because you you are rat poison for swag Kelly.
Swag's ever going to get back in the NFL.
He can't have you telling him how good he is all the time.
That's a fact. All right.
Numbers 95 97.
Seventy four. Seventy four.
That'd be freaky if it was forty seven.
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Take me.
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Needless to say, I'm on the sentence, but I'm being stolen a little way.
Fully learning that life is OK.
Say out to me, it's no better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me.
Take me on, I'll be gone, and I'll do all the truth.