Pardon My Take - Bills HC Sean McDermott, Hard Knocks Episode 3 + Mt Rushmore of Leftovers

Episode Date: August 24, 2022

Hard Knocks Episode 3 and we're running out of gas and very ready for real football (00:02:28-00:12:57) . Kevin Durant has decided he will stay in Brooklyn, the team he just signed a 4 year contract with (00:12:57-00:22:42). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including future President Stephen A Smith (00:22:42-00:48:49). Bills Head Coach Sean McDermott joins the show to talk about the Bills upcoming season, Josh Allen, the loss to the Chiefs, and tons more (00:48:49-01:17:53). We finish with Mt Rushmore of Leftovers (01:17:53-01:43:54).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Every year, at week three, we reach the point where we're like, I think I'm ready for football. It's I was actually thinking about it while we were watching it was like, man, that feeling of Hard Knock's episode one is one of the best feelings in the calendar because you're like, we want football. It's the first moment of like, I know we have the Hall of Fame game, but that first episode is like, yes, we're back. And then we get to episode two and we're like, oh, this is awesome.

And then he gets episode three and you're like, OK, I want to play. I want to play real games. Yeah, I think we still like the Dan Campbell show. Of course. So this will be Barstool Dan Talk. And I like Barstool Dan Talk when we focus on like Dan Campbell doing the every day, the ins and out Dan Campbell things. I would like to see basically the Truman Show where it's Dan Campbell,

where it's like 24 seven streamed. I want to see him like cooking an omelet in the morning. I want to see him like taking his tiny dogs out for a walk in the park. The football stuff is good, but I'm concerned about his his vascularity. The veins on Dan Campbell are just they. I think he actually gets more veiny in his neck when he's happier. Like after that win, he's like winning is satisfying. He looked like he wanted to headbutt, you know, through a window pane.

I think in that moment, because he did, it almost looks like he gets angry or the happier he gets. Yes. Like he's angry that he's not happy like that more often. Yeah. And he we had some good Dan Campbell moments. I mean, the the the bringing out the pants and showing how dirty they were. And we got to get the last bit of dirt off these pants. That was football guy through and through a literal analogy that don't.

It was a little weird. I was just like, what's going on here? Those just dirty pants. I was I was telling Jake like I wanted him to burn the pants. Yeah, I wanted him to like do something cool. It like shred the pants. It gave me the energy. You remember back in elementary school when you'd have to come in for show and tell

and you didn't you didn't remember to bring anything? Yeah. And you're like on the bus on the way there and you look in your backpack. You're like, shit, what do I I got these pants? Yeah. Let me get out of the back of my truck. These pants that I haven't worn for a really long time here. This will be my speech today.

He also had the anti fragile shirt, which I feel like he could have just had a shirt that said grit on it or toughness, but anti fragile works too. I think at the start of the season, he had a coaching assistant just like run through a thesaurus and just give him all the different synonyms for grit. Yeah. And then they finally reached the end where they're like anti fragile. Yeah. They reached the antonyms part and then they just slapped anti on it.

Yeah. It was the first iteration that shirt was just non fragile. And they're like, no, let's go anti fragile. But we had this was the setup episode where they got us, you know, watching a bunch of players getting their backstory who are eventually going to get cut the feel bad episode. You know, we had the offensive lineman easy who who said he hasn't been back to his home country since he came to America. We had I want to just stand up for easy real quick.

Yeah. Because he dealt with something that I realized during this show. I would absolutely hate about being a professional athlete, which is every practice, every rep is videotaped. Yeah. And somebody goes back through it. Yeah. My specialty when I played sports was just like finding when the coaches weren't looking

and then just completely slacking off. Easing off. Yeah. And they'd be like, OK, they're looking now. We got to get back to like doing perfect reps. And you can't do that with all these all this new technology. I think technology is it's ruining the art of slacking off. Yeah.

We had the the Billy just not as said, fuck you, Billy. Yeah. Big time. We had the running back who's was brother was has been in jail for the majority of his life. We had we Rodrigo is still is still talked about because he'll make the team it seems like. Yeah.

But there's a lot of Cleo Pimpleton, Maxion legend, electric player feels like they set him up to get cut. So it was the setup episode. Yeah. I want I want Pimp to make the team just because they call him Pimp. That's kind of cool. Yes. And the highlight of the entire episode was by far and away do staley try losing his

voice and trying to yell his way to having his voice back. Yeah. Where he was like, I know I have I don't have a voice, but I'm still going to scream with no voice. And hopefully it will mysteriously just come back. He almost got more intimidating. The worst his voice got. He has like a whisper screen.

Like a dude calling you motherfucker and you have to like lean in real close to his mouth. Yeah. And like you read the wind coming out of his mouth with your skin more than you actually hear the words. Yes. And then also Jamal Williams when Dan Campbell is like, if you fight, you're out. And then he's just trying to fight the entire Colts team, which I respect the fuck out of it.

Again, to me, as somebody that slacks, I hear that and I think, oh, I don't have to practice anymore if I can get them to fight. Right. And then it's not my fault because they started it. But he said he did say your your evaluation is over if you fight and get kicked out. So Jamal was like, I'm making the team. I'm on the team. That doesn't apply to me.

Let me try to take on like 17 dudes. Yeah. Have they is it me or have they just really not mentioned Deandre Swift at all? This preseason. Well, Billy put him in jail. I was going to say like he's he's my candidate for comeback player of the year after being arrested by Billy football by Billy football for murder. Bringing up murder.

I saw murder. I said, look at this. People online think he's been arrested. I I do have a murder for murder. I do have one sentimental note. I do never get tired of of the shots whenever they show family in the crowd. Like Cleo Pimpleton's family watching him and being so proud. That was like one of those moments like, damn, maybe I'm getting soft.

But these this always rules, you know. Yeah. It was like watching them cheer and like live and die with every single play. I love it. I just love it. I love like because it's obviously they're these guys who are going to get cut. It's their life's dream to make an NFL roster. It's probably not going to happen for them and just their family.

Like I think it was Cleo Pimpleton's mom being like he's playing right now against the Indianapolis Colts. Like that's a cool moment. Yeah. And hopefully he does make the team. I don't I feel like they set up where they just showed two drops. Shout out to him. Kennedy, by the way. Tom Kennedy.

Tom Kennedy. Billy got me thinking Tim Kennedy every time now. And now I keep going back and forth, switching back and forth. But he quietly had like the best game quiet. The quietest two touchdown performers that you've ever seen. Is that mean he's safe? I think it's I think he's safe because they wouldn't talk about him. If he's like the guys who are safe, they don't talk about.

So he has to be safe. I'm doing my projected 53 man roster at wide receiver for your Detroit Lions. I've got Tim Kennedy. Tim Kennedy and Tom Kennedy, both of them. And then I'm in Ross St. Brown. And then that's it. And then they're just and then they're just going to run the ball.

Yeah. It does suck when they're like, yeah, there's there's 14 offensive linemen and eight receivers on the roster right now. It's like, shit. Yeah. These guys are done. It's also tough to have your name include the word pimple in it. Because I think football guys at the end of the day,

when they're when they're making their final decisions, they see somebody named Pimpleton and another guy named Easy. And they're like, these guys aren't warriors. Yeah. You have to you have to cut them. Give me Rodrigo. Yes. Yes. Who that just keeps confusing the fuck out of me.

Because I just keep thinking whatever you go blank and chip is playing linebacker now. Yeah. He would be very bad. He would get cut. Yeah. I also like Dan Campbell being amazed by the football field. Yes.

Well, that I want to have his back here. That was fucking cool. The fact that they walked through the woods. Yeah. And then like it was kind of field of dreams ask on the blue carpet. It looked like a giant slip and slide taking you out of the practice field. But he was just I think Dan Campbell is that way, regardless of what field he's on.

Yeah. If you just put him on a new football field, he's like a 14 year old seeing boobs. He's like, wow. Field of dreams. This is amazing. This is field of dreams football. Incredible.

Yeah. No, he was he was very excited for it. Speaking of that. Do you see Bellachock called the Raiders facility is the Taj Mahal. Really? He he loves similar PFT. He loves. Yeah.

I mean respect. Whoa. Listen, the man knows football. He says the nicest facilities he's ever been to and isn't. I am. Do you think do you think Joshua Daniels just going there to warm up the seat for Bill Bellachock? Maybe he maybe Josh was like, I'll be the coach for one year and then you come

and then I'll be your OC again. I don't know how much money they have to pay Bill to live in Las Vegas. That would be a very foreign visual. I mean, it sounds like he really loves the place. He does a lot. The quotes. I'm going to try and pull up some more quotes. The quotes that were coming out of there were so funny.

I like it because he probably is just being earnest saying that it's incredible. But I always just assume similar to John Calpipere when he was talking about his facilities. He's just basically saying, Robert Kraft, pay up. Like make me a new facility. All right. So this is the Taj Mahal football facilities. He called it magnificent and outstanding.

Wow. Wow. He really loves it, Hank. That's crazy. That's as excited as Bill Bellachock gets. Yeah. He basically fucked the stadium. Yeah.

Yeah. So yeah, Hard Knock's episode three. I don't, sure. Yeah. We have, I don't even know if they're going to show too many of the cuts. I feel like Dan Campbell loves his men too much. Oh, he's going to cry. He's going to cry.

He's probably going to want to cut himself for cutting a football guy. Yeah. He's probably going to like punch himself in the face. I did. Like an old school, like, oh, I just can't believe I have to cut you. He's like, I hate doing this to you, man. Yeah. I remember the last couple of years because there were COVID years and we stayed late on

Tuesdays for Hard Knock's. And I remember being like, we got to stop doing this. And then we watched the first one this year. And I was like, that one was great. Yeah, no. That was what we walked out of the. You say it was best season ever. That was like the best Hard Knock's episode I think I've ever watched.

Well worth it. And now we're going to. No, yeah. We peter out and then we get to the Tuesday after Labor Day. It's like, yeah, yeah, it's over. It's over. I noticed that he had those motivational, so true posters on his desk, but they were all about just losing.

Yeah. He's got a lot of, he's got too many reminders of losing. And I think that he feeds off of being upset about losing a lot. And he's trying to use that to make him better. But if I were Dan Campbell, I would just have like 50% more signs in my office that talked about like winning and growth and not like. That might be also, that might just be like a permanent piece of furniture in the Detroit facilities.

That might have been left over from Dink. Those are load-bearing losing posters. From Matt Patricia. Yeah. If you take that poster down, the whole building crumbles. That was in the blueprint of how when they built the facility, they're like, we're going to need a lot of things about how to deal with adversity. Yes.

Yes. All right. So the other story before we get to Hot Seat Cool Throne, Kevin Durant, what we all expected is decided he's going to stay in Brooklyn. I don't, I did like that he, the boardroom, his company with Rich Kleinman, did get a shout out on, they had the logo on the Brooklyn Nets official release, which was nice because it was like, okay, they really sat down and decided this. And they're like, we're going to stay.

You don't have to fire any of these guys, but throw our logo on the official release. Kevin Durant has agreed to honor his legally binding contract. Yes. I, I don't, the craziest part about all of this is like the Nets are going to be good. Will they? Yeah. You think they're going to want some people next year? I don't know if they'll want, but they were like before Kevin Durant got hurt.

They were the one seed last year. They, Kyrie didn't play for basically the entire season. I think if Kyrie and Kevin Durant, and that's a big if play, they will be a top, I don't know, we're going to call it three, four, four team in the East. I just feel like the way that this whole thing went down, it's going to wake up a lot of different GMs and owners around the league where it's like, oh yeah, you don't act, you don't have to trade somebody just because they ask you to. Yeah.

Now if Kevin Durant had gotten fat like James Harden, that's, that's really the only power play that players have left. I don't think he physically can. I don't think he can either, but it's worth a shot. Yeah. I mean, really besides that, if you just, you can't hold in in the NBA, you can't really hold out effectively in the NBA because it'll take your money from you. So I don't know.

I think this is like one of those course correction things where the pendulum is going to swing back away from player empowerment because it's like, yeah, we, we gave the players all the power in the world. And then finally we realized, wait, we don't actually have to bend over for them. When they sign four-year deals. Every single time that they do this. And the, the, so we've defended Kevin Durant. We've, I've done a swing on Kevin Durant where I have defended him the last, I don't know,

a couple of years. This one seems indefensible. Like cause he's also going online and being like, blame KD and all this stuff. It's like, dude, you, you kind of did like cause all this yourself. Whether you, whether Kevin Durant, if you sit down, maybe you come on this podcast, like he might have a real reason. Like maybe it was because they, uh, you know, didn't let Kyrie play in road games last year or they didn't give him an extension, whatever it may be.

Like there could be reasoning, but all of this drama was Kevin Durant's fault. I actually think the way to get him on this podcast now, I can't believe we didn't think about this earlier. We just got to figure out a way to force him to get traded from the nets. So like if he comes on the show, we can talk or we can, we can give you some ammo. Yeah. We can have you, we can put words in your mouth and have you say some indefensible things that will definitely burn all the bridges that you have in Brooklyn.

Right. So that there's the invite. We'll figure a way out of town for you. I think part of it might just be he didn't want to play with Ben Simmons. And maybe that was like, they sat down and they're like, listen, Ben Simmons isn't going to play. Don't worry. Like he's, he's never going to play.

I'm just saying like we could, we could help you burn bridges, KD. Yeah. That's what we do best. Very easy. Hank, are you relieved? Sad? No, I'm relieved. I would have obviously been able to talk myself into Kevin Durant.

And he's a pretty good basketball player. Great basketball player, but the, the injuries concerns would have been a lot. It would have been, it would have been much more like we're all in basically the next year or two is, is we have to win a championship or, or it's going to be one of the biggest mistakes ever made. Yeah. Now we have, now it's like future, future Celtics. Yeah.

I actually think that we have like five years. It's a legitimate concern. Our championship window is, is more open to any team that would bring KD in. It would be a sizable concern that he would then want to blow the entire thing up after a year. Yeah. He'd be unhappy because it's kind of his MO at this point. He's just, he's unhappy. He's old.

I actually think, I think KD needs to. And, and coming back from the injuries, coming back from the injuries he's had, like people don't come back a hundred percent. He needs to go back to the burners. I feel like he was a, he was more mentally healthy when he was mentally unhealthy. He's, and he's just, yeah, his, his Twitter right now, it's just, it's tough when he's like, yeah, trying to dunk on people when again, like this kind of was his fault. Like he, he did just a month ago, say he wanted the coach and the GM fired.

And then he's kind of catching an L here because he's staying. And I don't think Steve Kerr or Sean Marks are fired. So that's an L. Steve Nash. Yeah. Yeah. I was about to say like Steve Nash. Oh, he didn't like Steve Kerr at the end of the Warriors run either.

It's going to be, it's going to be very awkward if you're Steve Nash. And then Kevin Durant comes back in the building. You're like, so water under the bridge. Yeah. What are we going to do here? Are you going to play or like you want to be fired? And it's great too, because like they got this settled and Kyrie still exists and Benson and still exists.

Yeah. It's such a ridiculous team when you actually think about it because talent wise, they should be a championship contender. And then you have three guys who are like, who the fuck knows whether they're going to want to come to work. Yeah. Well, I mean, if you're a, if you're a Nets fan, at least you've got the New York Mets. Yeah.

So there's some solace in that. Take care. First place in the division, they're, they're on a hot streak. Maybe that's what Kevin Durant was doing. Maybe he was like, I want to, I want to like team unity, like Kyrie and Ben Simmons have both taken turns being like, I don't really want to play. Maybe I should just take my turn. So we're all together.

Yeah. That's smart. That they're basically forming a unit, a mini union against the coach, the GM and the ownership. He's walking a mile in his teammate shoes. Yeah. Right. Now they'll have something to talk about. Yeah.

He was like, Hey, listen, Ben and Kyrie, like I'm going to take a little heat off you. I'm going to demand that everyone gets fired. Yeah. Jake smart. Ben Simmons is back on the cool throne because it's going to be scary. It's back in place. Oh, that's true. It was a nominee for worst sake of the year.

I'm playing with Kyrie and KD. It is going to be scary now. But now it might be scary. It might be scary. I'm a little bit scared. Good for him. I am scared too, whether they play or don't play. Who's, who's to say.

Yeah. That's, I, we should. So freezing cold takes got freezing cold. Take it. Well, I don't know yet. We don't know yet. I wonder if we could put if he plays. Do you think we could put up a bet in the barcel sports book?

Combined games played together or just total Kevin Durant, Kyrie and Ben Simmons this year. What would it be said at? All right. I think Katie is going to play. Would be like 160. I want to say how many, how many games do you think Katie played last year? Like 60. I think he missed a little more time than that.

But let's say, let's say Katie plays. Katie probably the most reliable, which is very funny given everything that's happened. So let's say he plays 65. Kyrie is good for what? Maybe 40. I was going to say 35. And then 55 last year for Katie. 55.

But that was a real injury. Ben Simmons, I'm going 22 games. I was going to say NA 22 games over under. Yeah. So, so set, set the over under. If we could put up a bet that's like will Ben Simmons, Kyrie and Kevin Durant play over under 139 games for the Brooklyn. I'm taking the under.

I'll be honest. I'll take in the under big time. Yeah. I mean, two of them just playing 60 would get you there. Pretty much. Like if China invades Taiwan, Kyrie probably just going off the grid entirely. Ben Simmons, who knows if he wears, if he wears his Joey Gallo jersey in New York, he might not be able to play.

He might not be able to walk down the street. He might be like, I'm done. Okay. Let's get to hot seat, cool throne. One other piece of news. Yeah. An extension for Nick Saban. Oh.

Yeah. So lifetime. So he's locked up for the next, what, like nine years. How's he not gotten the lifetime? 11. Well, I think that is his lifetime. Yeah. He's going to be 79 by the end of the day.

No, Nick Saban's going to live forever. Nick Saban, he's forever. Even after he dies, they should just have hologram Nick Saban on the sideline coaching that team. Nick Saban, like he's going to live forever. I would guarantee that Nick Saban goes past under. He's short. He has like his little like oatmeal pies every morning and watch the weather channel.

And I win. He's a man of routine. Yes. Routines they lend themselves to long life. Correct. Because you always hear somebody on the news when they're asked what's your secret. It doesn't matter what their actual secret is. Their secret is that they do it all the time.

Yeah. It's like a little, little old lady in Italy. She's like, my secret is I eat pasta and drink wine every day. Yeah. She's like, I smoke seven cigarettes a day. Yeah. I drink a liter of wine and then I just eat dessert. Yeah.

That's my trick. And that's it. So Saban, he's getting like 11 million a year. I still don't know what the fuck Nick Saban spends 11 million dollars a year on. Money is definitely wasted on Nick Saban. He's probably got some boats. I think he has one. He has, he upgrades to nicer boats that he takes out on like Memorial Day weekend every year.

And I feel like he has a different, I wouldn't be shocked if Nick Saban has like a house in Naples, a house in Miami, a house in a lake in Alabama, maybe a house in West Virginia. You know what I mean? Like he's just a house guy. I think he's probably got like the nicest house in every single town that his family members live in. Right. So like his daughter, he has the best house in that town. Right.

If he's got grandkids, he's got the nicest house there. But that's, that seems like Nick Saban gets paid all this money. He probably just wisely invests in a shitload of real estate. Yeah. And so he just, he probably owns horses. I think he probably has a horse or two. Maybe. I think football coaches generally just get a horse because other football guys have horses.

Yeah. Yeah. What are you gonna say, Billy? The University of Alabama over his career there has paid him over a hundred million dollars. And it's, it's bargain. Oh, absolute bargain. I think they would do 10 X that for the winning they've had. Yeah.

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So thank you to Coors Light. Okay. Hot seat cool throne. Henry. You want me to go first? Yeah, I want you to go first. I want you to go first, big boy. Hey, you know what?

Why don't you go first, pal? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead and do it, buddy. Okay. Let's go big guy. My hot seats will sell Taurus.

Yeah. Front of the program of the show, just won his first tournament. He had to withdraw from the FedEx championship. It was yeah, he withdrew from the BMW and then he also had to take himself out of the FedEx. He's third in the world right now. Yep. And but no matter what, because you withdraw, he automatically finishes 30th, which is like 300 grand or 500 grand purse.

But if he was to come in, you know, third, he'd win like 18 million. Yeah, it's tough. It's about a $17 million swing for him, which is it's hard to see we'll go through that. I mean, $17 million is a shit little. I don't pretend to understand how the golf playoff system works. I just want to know on Sunday, like how much does each putt cost when they missed on the 18th green? But this is it's tough. It's there's really no spend zoning this one for will.

I said that we should get go fund me going. Yeah, see, maybe we can make up the $18 million for him. I'm nervous that he made a deal with the devil and the deal with the devil was let me win one. That's what I'm nervous about. And I bet on him last week to finish top 10 to win every. I mean, I just auto bet him because he's just my guy. I'm nervous. I'm nervous because it feels like the timing is what is the old Michael Scott?

The timing is a fuck line line. The timing is whelming. No, he fucking. God damn it. All right, forget it. Never mind. No one's going to help me. Hank, what's your what's your cool throne?

Yes, there we go. The time. The timing is nothing short of predominant. Predominant. Okay. The timing is predominant in this case. I would I would say and I'm nervous for will. I mean, if you were a golfer and you finished second place in every tournament, you've you

would probably actually be on aggregate the best golfer of all time. Yes. Oh, here's fun little hypothetical I want to throw out there. I was thinking about this. If you had a superpower that no matter what, every time your golf ball was on the green, you'd make the putt. You won putt everything. Just guaranteed.

Do you think you could get a good enough game to make it to the tour? Easy. Yeah, I would just putt. I would putt. I would win the tour. I would I would tee off with a putter. No, that's not the rule. That's not the rule.

Easy. It's you have to be on the green when your ball your ball has to be on the green. So essentially you're just playing like the hole is the green. If you get it on the green, the next shot always goes in. You putt for dough in that case. So many greens in regulation. Yes. Good.

That's tough. No, but you don't even need greens in regulation. You just need greens in past like one stroke past regulation. Yeah, but think about it. If you don't get a green regulation, your one putting, it's still a best to par. Right. You go up and down. This is my other issue on our par.

My other thought of the hypothetical of if you made every three point shot you ever took, do you think that you could you could like they would put you on an NBA team? Yes. Easily. Yes. Absolutely. Million percent. I'd be the best basketball player of all time.

Maybe it'd have to be. Well, you'd get just torched on defense. Torched. You have a three points every time you shoot it. Yeah, maybe it's what you have to shoot it. You make every three point shot without a hand within like a foot of your face. So, so, so God, you'd miss if they were in your face. So, so what about like full court heaves?

Like I would get that's a three point shot. Yeah, but guys would start to. Would they press me? Yeah, they'd start to press you. The book would be out on. Yeah. Yeah. I would just start sneezing and coughing on them.

Just dare them to get close. I the golf one, I don't think, I mean, I think if you practice long enough, you could you do it. But right now, no, we would not. Here's how I would unravel in that situation, because I think I have a good amount of irrational confidence. But in this case, I feel like bunkers would really be my downfall. Yeah.

Because no matter how good I would get at everything else, it would still take me like four shots to get out of any bunker. Yes. Just completely meltdown. I don't think of how much longer the championship teas are. Yeah, they're long. Well, I always play from the black tips. True.

So. But for those of us who don't shoot. Don't. 72 a chin of cotton. Correct. That's a long time. I played behind the black tips. I love people because you can play like as far back as you want.

So I go to the back of the tee box when I tee off. All right. Hank, you're cool. Throne. My cool throne is the Giants fantasy people that are going to draft. I'll say Juan Barclay. He said it's kill mindset now. It's like, fuck everybody.

Fuck everybody. Say Juan Barclay. Great quote. I'm sure that won't be like a quote that gets turned around when it's like that quote. And then him going like, you know, 14 rushes versus 60 yards. Also. Yeah, wait. 14 rushes for 60 yards plus one of those rushes was a 55 yard run.

But that's that's the thing with the fuck everybody mindset. I feel like that can be counterproductive as a running back where on every run you're trying to fuck everybody. So like the art of falling correctly in the NFL when you're getting tackled and knowing when to go down is actually a very underrated thing for running back to have to be able to fall without getting injured. If you're in fuck everybody mode, I feel like that gets you fucked more often. Yeah.

Maybe it's because I mean he's he's got a cool name. He does do cool plays, especially a Penn State, but he is like one of those guys that everyone at the time knew the draft pick was stupid and then it's been stupid. But I still find myself rooting for what's a little unfair to him that he was drafted as a running back that high because everyone's just going to find a quarterback that becomes dominant that was taken after he was drafted and then they'll compare. Why did you why did you draft a running back this high? Yeah, I think he's you're right.

He does cool plays. He's got cool legs. He's got like the giant quads. He's a cool guy. I think AJ Dillon's kind of jacked his whole swag. Oh, really? Is like mega Saquon. Yeah.

AJ Dillon is what everyone thought Saquon would be. Yeah, interesting. Okay. Is that it Hank? What does AJ Dillon like it would everyone thought Saquon Barclay would do? Like AJ Dillon really hasn't done that much, right? No. But he's just talking about the quads.

Yeah, it's all in light. He's just thicker. But I guess Saquon Barclay also hasn't done that much. True. That's a good point. Yeah. So Saquon Barclay both they're the same. Just one has better legs.

Just one's thicker than the other. Got it. Yes. Okay. PFT, your hot seat. My hot seat is Marcus Mariota because I don't know if you guys saw. I put a lot of stock in preseason games. I watched the Jets Falcons game last night.

I think Desmond Ritter is that guy. I think he is him. Mariota has been good too. Yeah, but I think Desmond Ritter is actually very good. Yeah. Now I'm basing this off of maybe four throws that I saw because I was rewatching The Wire and I had the preseason game on my iPhone which is set up on my coffee table. So I was going back and forth and I only saw a few throws that Desmond Ritter made.

That's the most dangerous thing. I think you see one thing and you're like, oh yeah. No, I saw some like as Ron Jaworski would say like NFL throws. Yeah. From Desmond Ritter. I think he's that dude. Because Mariota, I watched the first drive. Mariota like he ripped off a huge pass to start and I don't know.

I'm always a believer in Marcus Mariota. He's very similar to Saquon Barkley. Yeah. A nice guy. So I think Marcus Mariota like the role that he was supposed to be in in Vegas is perfect for him like a change of pace guy. But which you don't really see that often with quarterbacks putting in a change of pace guy. But he does bring something to table with his legs for sure.

Desmond Ritter, I think he's, you know what? He's ready. He is. I think he's NFL ready. He's very good at sincey. I know. But like, you know, he wasn't drafted that high. A lot of people doubt in him.

I think Desmond Ritter, I think I'm ready to say based off watching him one time in the preseason that this is going to be a guy that I will believe in for the next four years. I think the Falcons don't have their quarterback in the future on the roster right now. Interesting. Maybe not. Maybe not. But Desmond Ritter is. Kyle Pitts had an awesome play.

I think Desmond Ritter is legit. Yeah. I mean, I think it'll be okay. But yeah, there is a danger in watching one highlight. You're like, oh, shit. A million percent. It's like watching Ohio State in the first game last year. I was like, bust, fuck this guy.

My cool throne is the Seattle Seahawks. Because Pete Carroll has spoken to the media regarding the big quarterback battle that's taking place right now. He says that right now they have two number ones. So he's like, we have an embarrassment of riches. Between Drew Locke and Geno Smith. And apparently they're both. It's got to be tough to have an honest comparison between those two.

Because I think they're probably very similar quarterbacks. And they're probably the best quarterbacks on that roster. Yeah. But Pete Carroll is like, yeah, we got two ones. So if you have two quarterbacks, you don't have one. I disagree. I think they should. So Geno Smith, I think plays pretty well based on recent experiences in like the first half.

And then Drew Locke is good in garbage time. Yeah. So I think they should put Geno Smith in the first half as a first half specialist. Drew Locke comes in as the closer and he just gets it like a closer for covering the spread. So Geno buries him a little hole, maybe he helps to hit the over in the first half. Then Drew Locke comes in in the second half and brings it to within six and a half points. How much does it suck to be Jacob Eason? Yeah, pretty bad.

It's like you're I'm here. I got two ones. I'm here two guys. Oh, and that guy over there. Yeah. So what happens if you have two ones? Does that make the other guy the two? Or does it make it a three like in golf?

I think it's a tie. Yeah, I don't know. That's a good question. We have someone needs to ask Pete Carroll, please. Yeah. Someone in the Seahawks media. Ask about. Yeah.

Tell me about what his Saber metrics really stand for here. All right. Is that it? Oh, you had another one? Well, I had another, but I'll let you keep going. All right. Okay. So I had hot seat is ESPN and also the future of America because I don't know if you guys

saw but the Little League World Series going on and there was a moment. I can't remember which teams. I think it might have been Washington and Iowa. I can't remember which two teams are playing. And they, there was a pitch that was called a ball and it was most definitely a strike. And the coach came out to the mound and like tried to settle everyone down. And one of the players got caught on the mic being like, this is rigged by ESPN. They want this game to go to extra innings.

This is so rigged for the rain. And I was just sitting there like, well, one, he could be right. So then ESPN, the gig is up. They're rigging this. And two, this is like the next wave of Billy footballs. Like our kids are just like thinking everything's rigged. And so it made me a little sad that this is now like, this is, this is not so great. This is the byproduct of the NFL rigged ecosystem right now is like, we've got little

AWLs at home that are playing in the Little League World Series right now. And they're like, this is rigged either for the money or for the attendance or for the better. I don't know what, I don't know which, but I saw it with my own two eyes. This is rigged next generation is here and they're ready to go. I would rather have the, this is rigged people than the coaches that absolutely try to go viral every time they step on. They know that they're mic'd up and they just run out and they tell the kid how much they love them. Yeah.

Like, oh, listen, isn't it cool? Like, like the kid gets fucking shelled and they come out there and they're like, isn't it great to work? Williamsport is always what you dream of. It's like, shut the fuck up, dude. You just got, you just gave up a grand slam. He's like, I'm really proud of you. And you came out here and you tried really hard.

I don't know if anybody out there has played little league baseball, but my coach would have slapped the baseball cap off my head and been like, go sit down on the bench. I'm nine. I, my, my memory has gotten bad, uh, as I've gotten older, but I'm almost positive. My little league coach smoked in the dugout. Oh yeah. No, I definitely had one that smoked, not Mark Slareth. Mark Slareth actually, the only speeches that he would give to us on our little league team

would revolve around the time that the Jaguars beat the Broncos in the playoffs and he never got over that. So he'd like come out to the mound and be like, listen, it could be a lot worse. You could be on the Broncos and have the best record in baseball and then you played the fucking Jaguars in the first game of the playoff and they smoke you. All right, get out of there kid. Yeah. Yeah.

It definitely, there's definitely different little league coaching now. Um, and then my cool throne is America. So I guess it's reversed. I don't know if you guys saw this, but Stephen A Smith said that he would run for president. Let's go. Yes. Love to see it. He was asked by Paul Feinbaum.

He said he's has some skeletons in his closet, uh, that used to be, you know, prohibitive of the job, but he said that if he thought he could win, he would run, he would run for president. I'll tell you this right now, Stephen A Smith, you would win. Yes. You would win. We would debate against Stephen A Smith. It would be, imagine a Stephen A Smith rally. Like he would also, the best part about Stephen A Smith, if he ran for president,

he would literally go to Texas and mock the Cowboys and be like, I don't give a fuck about your votes and still win. Well, that's actually a key to America's heart is if you just make fun of the cow. There are more people out there that aren't Dallas Cowboys than are. So if you just pick one franchise and zero in them, people will love you. You'd probably even still win Texas. Yeah. But this is like the, the hiding in, in plain sight.

Like everyone's been talking about the rock is going to be present. No, no, no. Stephen A Smith. Yeah. I would vote for him. I'll be honest with you. I would vote for him right now. Quite frankly, I want you to be present.

Yes. Imagine skip as his VP. Oh, I mean, he would never, he would never, he would never. I would just know he wouldn't. He would never. I mean, skip would probably run against him. Yeah. Which would be a great debate.

I bet your Stephen A Smith could just, he would get fucking Greeny to be his VP. Greeny like, oh, that's great. Or have Greeny be president. But then Stephen A Smith runs the show behind the scenes. Like a real Cheney W situation. Yeah. But either way, Stephen A Smith just, I mean, just having Stephen A Smith pronounce the names of foreign leaders.

Oh, Vladimir Putin. He would just go off on everyone. You make me sick. What would he say if they made weed illegal again? Oh, yeah. If they made it? Yeah. No, you'd be happy.

Yeah. Stay off the Delta eight. All right, Billy, your hot seat cool drone. By hot seat is Anthony Joshua. Anthony Joshua fought Usik over the weekend. And after the boxing match, 12 rounds went to a decision. Lost. He got outboxed by Usik and he kind of went on a rant after the fight.

He threw his belts out of the ring. He himself ran out of the ring, then ran back into the ring and hopped on the mic. Kinda basically stole the spotlight for Usik to talk about his country and all their struggles. That sucks. Yeah. It was kind of everyone was kind of like, dude, like. This is in your moment. You lost.

Yeah. And fuck your country. He's talking about all the hardship he's gone through as a child and stuff, whatnot. So a lot of people are being like, you know, dude, and this is kind of his second loss to Usik. Third loss. Remember when he lost to Anthony Ruiz? Yeah. So it's over.

I think him versus Wilder would still sell as a fighter. Yes, I agree. I think that might be a better fight to watch than a Tyson Fury Usik fight just for the casuals. But yeah, hot seat, Anthony Joshua. Yeah. Yeah. The end of a boxing career is always tough. Yeah.

I'm not saying it's over, but yeah, that's that's three losses. You just said that have happened. What? Somewhat recently. So then my cool throne is a Magic Johnson. Magic Johnson. Doesn't have it. Well, he's basically a week ago, a very long time ago.

There was a parody account that tweeted a fake picture of him donating blood. And he's finally gotten around 10 hours ago. He tweeted, I'm aware of the false story circling the Internet. And to be clear, I have never donated blood. Just classic Magic Johnson tweeting right after it happened. Yeah, I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm not a medical professional like Billy. But I think he's probably got healthier blood than I do. Yeah.

I think Magic Johnson, like he doesn't have AIDS. He doesn't have the HIV virus. It's not at detectable levels. I would venture to say that he's in I would rather have his blood than my blood right now. I also love his, I mean, it's a fact because he also like he's got vacation blood. He's just vacationing all the time all summer. He's you see the pictures he does like a tweet every day of what he's doing.

And it's always just sitting on a yacht and being Magic Johnson. He's always the coolest thing in the world. Like that's he doesn't even have to be doing anything. He's just like, yeah, having breakfast. I'm Magic Johnson. I'm on a yacht. Cool. Yeah.

That was the fact that he had to come out. It was just so obviously fake. Yeah, right. It's been going around forever too. Yeah. Yeah. So he has his most recent screening says that he remains HIV undetectable to this day. So he's going to live like a completely full life.

He's going to be on his yacht vacation with Cookie the entire time, hanging out with billionaires, wearing linen all the time, sipping the finest ones in Italy. I think Magic Johnson is doing okay. I would take his blood. Yes, I would too. I'd drink his blood. Same.

Yeah. Go ahead, Jake. My hot seat. Straws. They caught you had your dad in the act. We haven't brought it up on this show yet. We had a fan at the Subway series use a hot dog as a straw to drink a beer. Real men of genius.

A couple of things. One is obviously people are like it was staged, New York Niko had it staged. I don't care. I don't care when if a video is funny and staged, it still can be funny. And the idea of drinking a beer with the hot dog is kind of cool. Yeah. I knew it was staged the second I saw it. It's still, I've never seen somebody do that before.

Right. It's still an original idea. It was cool. And I just, a lot of people like throw them in jail. All this, I thought we lived in America. If you want to drink a beer through a hot dog straw, this is the country for it. Stephen A Smith should run on that. You should be allowed to drink a beer through anything that you want.

The internet doesn't matter. It was one of those internet is so cool for everyone like, oh, this guy sucks. Like, dude, he's enjoying himself. He's not making anyone else do it. Let him have a time. I don't get how people are framing this as a pre crime when like shoey is exist. Right.

Yeah. Drink a beer out of literally anything that you want. It's also like you're at a baseball game. You're most likely going to be eating a hot dog and drinking a beer. You just take out the middleman. You can, you can do anything with a hot dog. You can use them as chopsticks. You can drink a beer out of them.

If there's a way, a way to smoke weed out of a hot dog. I say go for that too. They're definitely. I'm sure that somebody's definitely smoked weed. Yes. Hank, have you? No. Let's make a video.

Yeah. I'm not a drunk guy. Okay. There we go. That's our new Billy. Write that down. TikTok idea. Smoke weed out of a hot dog.

Smoke a giant bowl on a hot dog. Might be better out of a brat. The algorithm doesn't like smoking. Okay. Okay. With a brat. I'm going to say a brat. What about like just a video?

It doesn't have to go on. We can say it's a TikTok. Yeah. And just put it out. Everyone will be like, check out my new TikTok. Nobody will know the difference. Yes. All right.

And your cool throne. A cool throne. Hank will like this. Vacations. Yeah. The latest Tom Brady rumor is that his time away included a vacation to the Bahamas. Ooh. Good, good.

So there's people who are torn on this. That's whether they're filming the mass singer. Whether that's appropriate or if it's not appropriate. He could leave in the middle of training camp. Yeah. I say if you're at the top of your game at something like Tom Brady or Hank, you can take a vacation whenever you want. Like if they lose week one, who are they playing week one?

That would be Sunday night. That will be very funny. No, that's not week one. Yeah. That was last year. No, it's Sunday night football. No, that's Sunday night football. I thought was Rams bills.

That's Thursday night. That's Sunday night football on Thursday night. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And this one's in Dallas, I believe. Well, if he loses that, that's the narrative. Yeah.

If he loses that, then cool throne Jason, Whitney and Tony Romo for going on vacation to Cabo before their games. Yeah. And the New York Giants for the boat. The boat picture. Yeah. Yep. Okay.

So I don't know. I mean, there were a few blue check marks who tweeted it. I don't think Schafter or Rappaport did, but. Well, Tom Brady tweeted out that he was not on the masked singer, but he was wearing a mask. And then he did like a video of him doing stunts on a motorcycle, which I'm pretty sure was totally real and not photoshopped or edited at all. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Sell underwear. Oh, he's selling underwear. Oh, also, by the way, hot seat. We forgot. It seems like high quality underwear. Oh, that's good. I feel like he's an offshore bank account.

Well, yeah, duh. Yeah, no shit. I mean, wait, you think the guy that's married to a Brazilian supermodel and heavily invested in cryptocurrencies doesn't have an offshore account? Duh. Million percent offshore. Tom Brady just has his finance. People will be like, just send me what I have.

Just look at it. He definitely does. Just look at all the zeros. Yeah. How sick that is. We forgot hot seat bills. That reporter who said, just curious, have you ever heard the bills have a female act on the soundtrack during practice?

So cancel the bills. Oh, wait. What did they do? No female singers. Oh, yeah. Fuck that. Yeah. Can't have that.

Sorry. Can't have that. It was the most non-buffalo-buffalo tweet of all. Like, that guy, he's probably from Buffalo. He's a Buffalo Bills beat writer, but kick him out. Yeah. Get him out of here. Also, hot seat in that case.

Was it the Broncos? No, the Broncos, they don't have any future. Correct. On their practice. For obvious reasons. For obvious reasons. Very obvious. All I know is that if I'm going to a football practice and they don't have Inya on there,

I'm like, this team can't win on Sunday. Yeah. That's a fact. Okay. Let's get to speaking of the bills. Sean McDermott, we interviewed him before this story, this salacious story of not having a female act on their soundtrack. We would have asked him that.

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and you accepted the award at a press conference. So it's great to finally have you on. It's great to be with you guys as well, finally. Do you remember that at all? Because you won Football Guy of the Week for passing out to your team dirt and sod and grass and telling everyone they had to defend the dirt. And then you won it.

And a reporter asked you in the press conference, you're like, I'm blessed to have won it. So it was a nice moment. Well, I appreciate that. And I appreciate you guys honoring me in that way. I'll send some dirt this year over to you guys so you can be members of our team as well. You can defend your dirt.

OK, I like that. Yeah. Yeah. I always accept soil that's mailed to me. That's the general policy that I have. A very important question to get started here. We were talking about you last week. We did a big debate on which coaches we think

could kick everybody else's ass in the NFL. So you were drafted number three overall. It went Dan Campbell, Vrable, then you. We still have people in this room right now who think that you should have gone number one because of your experience as a collegiate wrestler. You know, wrestlers are built different. You guys are a little bit crazy.

You're not afraid of contact. So I have to ask you, do you think that you could kick Dan Campbell's ass? Yes. And Vrable also had throw Vrable in there at the same time. OK. I like that. I mean, I like the confidence.

I like the confidence. There is a, like, just a good policy in life is don't mess with anyone who wrestled at any level because you guys are just all psychos. Listen, in the wrestling community, we don't look at ourselves as psychos or crazy guys. But outside, outsiders definitely look at wrestlers and think that they kind of march to the beat

of their own drum. And maybe that's true, you know, because that mindset is like, hey, walking down the street, you feel like you can kick anyone's tail, yeah. Yeah, I could see it in your eyes, actually. Like, when you just said walking down the street, you were looking off in the distance. Like, you were visualizing, yeah, like pinning

some random person who started stuff. So years ago, I had a debate years ago when I was in Philadelphia with the Eagles and our trainer at the time, he's now the trainer in Kansas City. We were around the lunch table and he said, hey, would you take the best wrestler in the world over the best boxer in the world? And obviously, when I came into the conversation,

I was a little bit late and obviously, the table was unanimously, for sure, the best boxer. And I can just tell you, if you pull 10 wrestlers, we're going to tell you to take the best wrestler over the best boxer. So it's debatable, I know, but us wrestlers stick together. Yes, yes, that's for sure. So has there been any thought that's crossed your mind

about getting Gable Steeveson to play defensive tackle for you? Maybe you could work with him, Olympic gold medalist, be like, you know, I could turn you into the next Aaron Donald. That's right. So I asked Brandon Peter, our GM, to look into it, honestly, a couple of years ago when he really surfaced and was more than that, but thought maybe, yeah, a defensive tackle, maybe a tight end.

I mean, unrealistically, right? And it's amazing what he's been able to accomplish. So I have a question about last season. Obviously, we know the game that, you know, everyone watched one of the greatest games, playoff games to watch with the Chiefs, but I had a question about a few weeks earlier. We went to the game in Buffalo against the Patriots,

the Monday night game, and when we were leaving, we were listening to the radio and it was full on panic. It was Sean McDermott just got out coached by Belichick. He's playing chess, you know, the bills are playing checkers, all this stuff, sky is falling. And it felt like that for a moment. What did you do after that game and to close out the season because you also had the weird Jaguars game

to kind of get everyone back on track? Because as fans, we always freak out in the moment and it feels like football coach's ability to keep everyone steady even through these bad losses is what makes a great football coach. Yeah, every year is a journey. I'll start off with that Patriots game that you mentioned. Coach Belichick, we all know he's going to go down

and history is one of the best coach of all time and a lot of respect for him and what he's done over the years. I think really our team got our focus back and got it where it needed to be because we were going a little bit up and down to the course of the season and a little bit inconsistent as you mentioned. But I just felt like I think it was the second Patriots game

where we were down some players. We really got our focus where it needed to be and played our best football down the stretch there and on into the playoffs. Yeah, there were a lot of takes that came out after that Patriots Monday night game. Like, oh, Buffalo, you need a dome. You can't be playing in these elements up there.

I love that football. We were there. We were gridding it out. I think we took our shirts off at that game. We were brave. We were in a suite, so it was nice. It was kind of hot. We took it off because it was too hot.

I was sweating a little bit. But you know that same thing. You like being in the elements outdoors like that. Any world that you think that Buffalo would ever get an indoor stadium or would you want a dome? Never. This is Buffalo, right? And this is part of what makes us unique.

I mean, it's the best place to live. Some people say, okay, I can see why you live here in the summer, but we love it year-round. It makes us who we are. I didn't realize it at the time coming from Philadelphia. I was raised outside of Philadelphia. Just the fit for a head coach and his family

is how important it is and the type of community you go into. I go for jogs around the stadium area early morning sometimes. And people are up early. They're out there going to work early, packing their lunches. And I just feel like that really fits me, fits my family and how we want to raise our kids the right way. Yeah. We love Buffalo.

Every time we go visit, we absolutely love it. Another thing we love about Buffalo, we love Josh Allen. We've been Josh Allen guys before the bills even drafted him. We have a little joke going though that when Josh, there are certain times in a game that Josh, he like, we call it the mash all the buttons. Like you're playing a video game. He just mash all the buttons and like, we'll spin and run

and like, then just throw it somewhere. Do you ever get mad at him for that? Or you're like, this is part of his greatness because a lot of times the mash all the buttons play works out in your favor. Yeah. I used to do that on Nintendo back in the day on Technoball. Where you just kind of hit all the buttons

and maybe water painting would spin and could never tack them. So that's what I tell Josh to do is, we're kind of struggling. You know, like last year, as you said, we're kind of going up and down. I said, hey, Josh, just start mashing all the buttons. And good things will happen, right? That's our, that's our, that's my favorite offensive advice to Josh. That's some high level coaching. I'm glad that you're on the same thing.

Yes. Yes. Hit the turbo button, Josh. You still got some turbo left. Yeah. That's it. You know, he's, he's very fun to watch. The only concern I have about Josh Allen is every year,

it seems like he put, he keeps the visor on later and later. And no quarterback that's ever worn a visor is one of Superbowl. So I keep thinking like, okay, if you, if you start wearing this during the regular season, if you think that you look really cool during training camp and you let it carry over into the regular season, that's bad news. So my other high level piece of coaching advice would be just keep the visor on.

My other high level piece of coaching advice would be just keep the visor off him in the regular season games. Yeah. That's hard, you know, because I think he looks, I think he looks good in it. And I know he likes to look good, tall, dark and handsome. And surely not that much different than I am that way. Tall, dark and handsome, short, short, bald and whatever that goes.

But no, he's, he's a heck of a, heck of a player. Because you guys know, that's really why we drafted him, because you guys liked it. We kind of did our research. The website, yeah. Yeah, it'd be a good thing for us here. So no, he's done a great job. It's fun to watch him.

He's, he's really grown every year, you know, on the field, off the field. Great, great teammate. The guys love him and, and then what he does in our community with, with the outreach initiatives he does is, is outstanding. We talk about really just being a part of something bigger. And, you know, he's, he's, he's connected with the fan base tremendously here. Yeah. He's, he's one of those guys just easy to root for. Just one, you know, one of those guys you find yourself gravitating towards.

I had a question about your beginning and, you know, you're part of Andy Reed's coaching tree. What was it about Andy when you were with the Eagles early on where, like what, what did he do to help you guys and teach you guys and have all these guys go from Andy's program to, to going on and being, you know, you have, you know, Harbaugh, Ron Rivera, you, Doug Peterson, Matt Nagy, all these guys who've had success in the league. What, what was it that Andy specifically was able to like instill in guys?

Yeah. He's, he's, Andy's been a great mentor to me and to many of us. The names that you, that you mentioned and many more that have gone out to become head coaches or coordinators in the league. It was just, you know, being around Andy was really being to me around kind of a, a Harvard approach to football at an early age for me. He just, he was ahead of his time from, you know, really leaning on the passing game years and years ago to win and uh, his blueprint for success and his plan, not only just his vision, but his day-to-day plan.

I think we all learned a lot from that and how detailed he was and his plan and how he was then also able to pivot and adjust. I mean, there was times where, yes, we had good seasons right from the start, but also where things got off to a little bit of a rocky start and he was able to, to pivot and keep the, keep the trade on the tracks. The, the game that you had against and Big Cat alluded to it early. We have to, we have to talk a little bit about it. Maybe, you know, one of the best games to watch of all time. It was exhilarating. Obviously, we're rooting for the bills and that one didn't work out the way that we wanted to, but still just a great ending to a great football game.

I noticed that you didn't record a podcast afterwards, so you were doing your podcast and you just didn't, you didn't give a wrap up of that one. From our perspective, as, as broadcasters, those are the ones that get the huge amounts of downloads, the ones when you're just abject misery afterwards. So if you want to get the numbers up, you're going to want to put that podcast recapping that game out. But from, from your perspective as a coach, have you had, have you, is it a game where you go back and you, you've watched the tape and you're like, okay, I'm going to learn from how it ended? Or is it a game where you're just like, I never want to look at this ever again? Yeah, it's a little bit of both, I'd say. I mean,

it was a, and while you're going through it, you don't realize, I mean, you're in the moment, right? You don't realize, like so many people text me after the game, what a classic game, fun to watch, all that type of stuff. You don't realize that as you're in the game because you're so, so down into the moment and trying to execute and do your job. And obviously, I didn't, I didn't get it done at the end of the day. And a lot of, a lot of sleepless nights after that, but also a lot of things that, that I've learned from that. And I think it's going to help us and carry us as we move forward. I mean, the experience we got from that, from that game, that experience, you know, I think of benefits as we move forward and listen, Buffalo's Buffalo for a reason, man,

we're strong and, and we come together and we're looking forward to this season. And that was a heck of a game and one that I'll remember forever in terms of the high highs and also obviously the way it finished. But, and so I just, I think that life is, life is a journey. And sometimes things like that happen and you got to pull yourself back up and get yourself ready to go. And at the end of the day, all the strong prevail. And that's what, that's what wrestlers do. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's a fact. It was, it was a heartbreaking way for the bills. So do you, do you go into the like detail of like, I should have just called a different defense here or there? Like, cause I know, obviously everyone makes a lot about Mahomes and how he scored whatever

it was 19 seconds. Was there one thing where you look at and you're like, I, I kind of screwed that one up. The results, the results. So at the end of the day, I could have done a better job. And, but yeah, you go back and, and break it down. Let's start where, where things started to get a little sideways there and, and evaluate every last inch of that thing so that we're better, I'm better as a coach and we're better as a staff and we're a better football team because of it. That's, that's got to be, that would be so painful. I would not want to go and have to like, you know, just be like, all right, I have to do all this different. I have to watch it over and over. I have a, I have one bone to pick with you. And, you know, you, I don't know how you're going

to answer this, but you robbed us of an all time moment when Nathan Peterman had five interceptions in the first half, um, and you pulled him. Why, why did you do that? We were having so much fun on Twitter that day and no offense to Nathan Peterman. You said afterwards, even in the fact, he made some pretty good throws that when he wasn't throwing it to the other team. Um, why'd you rob us of that moment? I love how you say it with a straight face too. You both sit there. They can't say it with a straight face. You guys are both sitting there straight face. Um, yeah, I just felt like we would have this, this opportunity to connect on it. And you get a lot more viewers as was mentioned earlier, you know, four years later. So I'm here to help you and your business. And

that's what we do. Um, I had to go to the, uh, the highest level of coaching, as I mentioned, uh, school to the, to know at some point, enough's enough. And, uh, I love Nathan Peterman though. I still, I saw him the other night on television and still pulled for him. And, um, but yeah, that was, uh, you know, we, we had some moments that first year in 2017. Um, but the cool part about it is we come and make the playoffs, right? And it had to be done at 16, 17 years there. And that team was, I'll also always remember that team, how hard the guys fought. And, um, and those were moments you learn from too, as a coach, right? And I was a long ride home from LA at the time and, uh, man, those are some lonely moments, you know, as a coach, where you're always trying to do the

best you can for your team and it doesn't always work out. But yeah, you learn from them and it only makes your stronger move forward. So, but I, I'm glad I could help you guys, uh, at least in part. Um, so next time we'll just get a buzzer, you know, they have these channels on my headset. I think every time I get my headset, there's a new, new button on there. So I'll just put, I'll just put, you know, you guys on there and we'll just have a fun where you just chime in. And I, or I can just dial into you and you can tell me what you want me to do. Yeah. It's like, we're going for a record here, coach. Could you have a button where I could just dial in and be like, run the, uh, the vertical route to the fullback play again?

I love that one. Yeah. We can do that. Whatever you guys want, we'll just, I'll just put another button on there. And if, and if I'm not doing it, like we can just do a shock therapy, like I'm not doing something you want me to do. Just, yeah, you do have a, I started twitching. You did have a great answer because that 2017 bills team did make the playoffs. Like you, if you said, Hey, there's, there's a team that had a game where we threw five interceptions in one half and still made the playoffs for the first time in 16 years, that's insane resiliency. And, uh, so you're right. Like that team, and everyone remembers when the day that you guys made the playoffs and how exciting it was. So, um, yeah, the, the playoff game was,

was it seven, nothing? Was that one of the most boring? I think it was the, I was, I think it was the exact opposite of the chief's bills game. I feel like it was like, uh, nine, what was it? Uh, nine, seven, something like that. I mean, we had some chances to win the game and there was a good defensive game. And I think Jacksonville went on to then beat Pittsburgh. The next, the next round, um, Big Frank had a great team also. So yeah, that's the playportals. Yeah. 10, three, 10, three. I just looked it up. I remember being like, Oh, this one's tough. Yeah. I think they put you on the Saturday game. You've got, um, you've got a great player. You've got a great rookie this year. Matt Arreza, uh, the punter,

and he made all these headlines because he kicked the ball. I think he had like an 82 yard punt in the preseason game. Um, do you have any plans to use him as a weapon? Like if you have, you've got a guy that can kick the ball to the moon and back. I'd like to see a third downpunt make its way back to the NFL. Like if you're pinned deep on your 10, just like unleash the cannon and he'll pin them like inside the 10 yard line. Yeah. We're, we're, we put that in this week. We may use it against the Broncos this weekend, our second preseason game. Uh, yeah, I think that ball of that pun is still going right now. So he's, he's now the, him and Josh are the two favorites of the, of the local fan base here above

the club and at 80, 82 yard punt, right? Uh, no, he's off to a good start. He's a great kid. And he could be a weapon for us, right? I think was he the punk God or what do they call it? The punk God, right? You know, we should do some time and see, see who can, who can get the ball further down the field. Josh Allen throwing it for a matter of ways of punning it. Has, has Josh ever told you like what, do you know his number? Do you have a number in your mind for a Hail Mary? Probably like 110. I think, I think you told me you can throw it 110, but it's got to be, I don't know if it's specifically come up before where you guys are at the end of a half Hail

Mary, but like it's, it, it has to be what, at least 65, right? You know, as crazy as, so we start our practice and we'll do some, instead of stretching everyone kind of stretches first, we'll do some situational stuff first and Josh isn't even really that loose. And he'll just unleash one down the field and right before it doesn't like, Hey, just in my mind, I'm saying, Hey, easy here, easy. Don't throw your arm out. He's just, there it goes. I mean, he's God, he's got a cannon. Yeah. It is. It is insane how far he can throw it. You were, you were teammates with Mike Tomlin in college, correct? Correct. Yeah. Was he, did he have weird sayings back then? Cause he's, he's good for like three

or four times a year where he has a quote that everyone's like, what did that mean, dude? That's, that's in the eyes. He's got the eye movement. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. He's got that. He's got that down. He's, he's definitely, uh, he's always been a wordsmith, right? He uses great phrases. He, so we, we used to be at William and Mary and he would, he was a captain when I was a freshman, I believe it was. So he'd stand in the middle of the circle at the end and talk to the team and he always had just a great way with his words and communicating what he wanted to get communicated. So, uh, yeah, I watch him. I watch his press conferences sometimes and, uh, I'm in all of the words that he uses, I guess, but that's the value of William and Mary education, I guess.

Yeah. That's a fact. That's a fact. Yeah. What did he say? Like, we don't, we don't want hostages. We want volunteers or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. I think he must really sit in his office or lay in bed and I didn't just think about these phrases he's going to use because they don't come to me that quick. Yeah. Yeah. He's definitely got like a word of the day calendar. Yes. Absolutely. Is on his desk. Word of the day. Love. Are you a fan of Bill Burr? Uh, yeah. Yeah. And so, I mean, you do look a lot like him. Oh, you know what? I'll tell you what. I was telling my wife, so we're, uh, this new Top Gun movie came out this summer, right? And my kids are, they're old enough to watch it, but they're young enough that they

weren't aware of the first, the original Top Gun. And so, we're going through it and I'm trying to describe Tom Cruise and, you know, how all the, you know, the ladies love him and wise, you know, tall, dark and handsome and this and that. I shared with my kids, I said, Hey, there's a lot of people that tell me I look like Tom Cruise. And they didn't agree at all. And I'm kind of surprised by that. But yeah. Yeah. I've heard those comparisons. So, he's a good looking guy. Yeah. Yeah. He is. He is. He absolutely is. Very successful guy. No, we like Bill on this show a lot. And I have noticed that there are a lot of pictures of you on the sidelines. It goes viral a couple of times a year

where somebody like, Oh, holy shit, Bill Burr is coaching the bills. That's crazy. But yeah, I don't really have a question about it. It's just more a statement of fact that you look like him. Yeah. I've heard that before. I appreciate you reminding me. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So coach, I had one last question. It was the rowback question. Use promo code take. You get 20% off your Q zips, hoodies, polos, great, great gear. Okay. So this year, going into it. Now, we're big Josh Allen guys. We're honorary members of Bill's mafia. I'm not going to go as far as, you know, be like, Oh, we're huge bill. Like we're honorary members. We want Buffalo. We love Buffalo. We love the city. Are you a little worried? Like, how do you deal

with the expectations? Because you guys are, I think you might be favorites to win it all. I don't like you got everyone's talking about the bills. This is a year. How do you go in and reset all that? Because it does feel like the entire media and everyone is picking the bills and hyping you guys up. So you tell us, cause we'll, we'll, we'll be your mouthpiece. We will, we will diminish you guys and put you guys down as much as you want us to to help kind of tamper or damper, sorry, all the media hype. Yeah. Can you do that? Can you just tell everybody we stink? Not going to be any good. No. Now it's, this is a, you know, we've, we've now going into, we've been here five going in year six now. So I think it's what you try and do. You try and

build a program from the ground up and get it to where, you know, you're respected in the, in the, in the league and, and respected, you know, on the field. And here we are. And I think it's great for our fans that have, you know, we're around in particular in the early nineties when this team was, you know, in those, in those Super Bowls with Coach Levy and Jim Kelly and Thurman and all those guys, right? So now it's back and, and it's taken a lot of work, but we're excited about the season. And I would say too that, you know, when you're trying to do things right, you're trying to work to a standard, you know, new expectations, if you will, don't really, don't really come into play because those expectations we all, we've always had for ourselves.

And, you know, whether it's on the field or off the field, we've always tried to do things a certain way. So why should that change now? Really, that was the way we look at it. So we love it. We love the excitement that's in our community because of it and around Bill's mafia. So I think we just embraced it. And also our players learned from last season, you know, when expectations were, were increasing at that point as well. So the last couple of years have really helped in that regard. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Our producer Hank is a natural Bill's hater because he's from New England. So we'll just give him more of a platform and to expand on his, his Bill's hatred. That way it's not all rat poison for you guys. As Nick Saban would say,

we're giving you some rat shit too. Yes, yes. Yeah, I've heard that before as well. I think that's a good term, rat poison. Yeah, you guys are getting a lot of rat poison. There are a lot of people in the national media that are saying, okay, you guys just hate him, the Super Bowl, and they're forgetting that it's very, very difficult to get there. You guys are definitely capable of it, but it is to a certain degree rat poison. Yeah. Yes. I mean, you see, I think that's another thing that I learned from Coach Reed is just trying to keep, you know, he'd stay even killed and be consistent in your approach. And I think that's what serves people, people well in the end is just keeping your team on the tracks. And there's going to be a journey

like it is every year. Very few teams, as we know, have clean season, so to speak. So we're excited for the journey though. We've got a group of players in the locker room that are, that are, you know, focused and we've had a great camp to this point. Guys have worked hard. There's going to be adversity. We know that there's going to be an inevitable gap in there between where we are and where we're trying to get to. And that's, that's where we'll be tested. And that's something we got to overcome and handle the right way. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, if you get to the Super Bowl, we would love, we're going to fly out Ed and Alicia from Wing Nuts. I don't know if you've had Wing Nuts before. Best wings in Buffalo. That's start, go there and you'll get

even more street cred in Buffalo because it's, it's, yeah, I love it. You just, you just did Tomlin's eyes right there. Yeah. Listen, we, we think about Wing Nuts. I think about Wing Nuts probably four times a week. Yeah. I wish the other day and I was just thinking about those wings. We had, we had a legitimate conversation about just being like, let's just move to Buffalo so we can get Wing Nuts all the time. Like, fuck it. There you go. You can move into my house. Just move into my house. We'll call plays for you. I have two kids. So is that okay? Like I, that, that might be a problem. Okay. Cool. Yeah. All right. No problem. How old are they? Three and one. You can nanny them for me. Well, I go to Wing Nuts. Nothing I, nothing I'd rather do is wake

up in the middle of the night again with those, with those young, young kids, like one year old. Yes. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'll just, I'll have my one year old, like she's teething right now. I'll just have it. You know, I'll get her a Wing Nuts chicken bone. Perfect. Yeah. That's perfect. Yeah. All right. But you got to check out Wing Nuts. Yeah. Yeah. Check out Wing Nuts. I'm telling you, it's, it's, it's our favorite place in, in the world. Ed and Alicia are like true Buffalo through and through. So. Love it. Yeah. We'll do that. Coach, thank you again. We appreciate it. We're rooting for you guys. Thanks for coming on. And hopefully we see you soon in person. Just one question. You know, the whole time we got this bench press sit behind you guys. Oh, yeah.

Just in between, in between work here, you just kind of. Yeah. Yeah. I've been, I've been trying to get our former intern to give his bench press numbers up to match mine. So it's been a long road, but we put in these reps after every interview. So we're about to get them on there, try to get them up to 275. Love it. We've got a guy upstairs in our analytics department that's been working on his bench press also. I think that's a good move. I'll just put it, I'll just move one of those racks into his office. Yeah. There you go. You can't, you can't avoid it when it's sitting right next to you. Wait, do you, do you really want your analytics guy? Do you want a stat nerd to also be strong? I'm trying to get him on the wrestling manifesto. So I got to work on his,

on his frame first. Okay. If it were me, I would want my, my nerds to look like nerds. Although wouldn't that be a competitive, like a new different competitive edge, like money ball? We have the, we have like the strongest nerds in the world. Strong nerds. There you go. It's a good tagline. All right, coach. Thanks so much again and good luck this year. See you coach. All right. Thanks guys. Appreciate it. Take care. Coach McDermott was brought to you by Norton VPN. These days, you use your personal info to do just about everything, especially when you're online. With all that info just floating around out there, it can make the internet a practical goldmine for identity thieves. Stealing your identity,

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We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of leftos. There's, I mean, there's no way. We looked. Yeah. We looked. We double verified. We double verified. We looked. Wait. Is that like double sportsmanship? Yeah. We double verified. We both checked. Yeah. Put two condoms on. But if we didn't do it, we'll feel extra dumb. Yeah. Well, you. You double checked. But you're the fact checker. But I remember your name. Wait, Jake. So you searched part of my take left part of my take leftover from, from both of you leftovers. Mount Rushmore. Any foods too. You guys ever like to call them tovers? Sometimes like for a quick laugh, I call it that. I don't think it gets a rockets applause. There might be micro tears in our verification from friction. What? All right.

So Mount Rushmore of leftovers. We won on Monday. Congrats. Good job. I just searched. I just searched for myself and leftovers. I replied to some, I've got leftovers. All right. Your mom left all her bras over in my room. Nice. That's just a quick reply that I had. Got them. Put them closest to this was hangover foods on August 28, 2017. Yeah. Hangover foods. But that's different. That's different. We're talking leftovers. We're talking over the night in the refrigerator or not, depending on what you're going to pick leftovers. We have the first pick. We'll go first. We'll let Julie go second. We'll let team Hank go third. The first pick is the easiest pick in the entire history of Mount Rushmore.

Chinese food. Number one. Simple. Oh, you kidding me, Hank? Don't even try. Not all of it keeps. Chinese food. One, one. Easy. Easy. Easy. Sometimes I don't even reheat it. It's so good. Just eat it cold like some low mains, some cold low mains. Little beef and broccoli when it all gets in the sauce. You know, do a little. General sauce chicken. Rice, fried rice. Get some of that wonton soup. So good. All right. Team Julie. Have at it. Sometimes I have leftover Chinese food like later on that same night. Yeah. Yes. Just a couple of hours later. That counts as leftovers. Yep. Do you want me to do that later? Yeah. Okay. Pizza. Good pick. Okay. Good pick. Cold pizza

and a tin foil. Yeah. Good. Good. You don't need to heat it up. Good pick. Take the cheese off. No. Good pick. I don't think when it's cold, you could even take it off. I feel like it's much harder. Yeah. I've tried. Yeah. Yeah. No, it does retain its integrity. Its structural integrity a little bit nicer when it's cold. Yes. Cold pizza. Good pick. How's the OG first tape? Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Dana Jacobson and what's his name? That other guy. The white guy who looks like all the other ones. The white guy with the dark hair that wore a suit on ESPN. Reese Davis. Nope. No. Carl Ravich. Nope. R11 is beers. Okay. So leftover beers that you leave out? No. Like, you know, you maybe have some people over and they leave over like five or six beers

or in their fridge the next day. Wake up. Have some leftover beers. You drink beer for breakfast. So it's already opened? We also had that pick, but you could have gone that way later. Oh, really? Because did you get it later? No. There's a much more obvious third pick. How many Mel Rushmore's have you won this year? I think Billy's right. How many of you won? At least quadruple to probably seven tupples, many of you. We won't win this one. Like, we won't win this argument. Okay. All right, beer. Good pick, Hank. Thanks. Alcoholic. Our second one is going to be Chili. Oh, that's a good pick too. I had Chili. Yeah.

Billy, can you draft for me a quick Mel Kuiper over here? I think Chili's one of those things where it's, the flavors get stronger the second day. I think it's a very strong pick. Billy. Have you ever made Chili? Yeah. Good question. Have you? Yeah. Okay. Cool. Great. We've all made Chili. All right. Your guys next pick. Who knows what that was? I'm just so surprised this is, this has not been picked yet. Okay. Just Thanksgiving leftovers. Okay. All of them? Just the entire meal. All Chinese food? Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I was just asking, I didn't know if there's anything specific. People survive like off from Thursday to Sunday of like whenever Thanksgiving weekend. Yeah. Off of Thanksgiving. Okay. Have you ever made Thanksgiving food, Billy?

No. That's a no. So I don't, I don't really have a follow up. He can't even vocalize a no for the people who are listening. He's just shaking his head because he knows he was about to do a Billy White lie and he's reformed. I don't really have a follow up or a point I was trying to make with that. I was just curious what your point to Hank was when you're asking him if he's made Chili. I don't know. I feel like Chili's not some like. So whatever aspersions you were casting on Hank in that moment are now being cast upon yourself. I don't know. I just, I have these like set of leftovers in my brain that I will not reveal and some of these are just not vibing with it. Okay. I thought there was a pretty easy Mount Rushmore. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of good choices

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Available lunch, dinner, late night delivery. Only for delivery or pickup. They're open seven days a week. Go to partofmycheesesteak.com. Pardonmycheesesteak.com. I love the loaded fries, by the way. So good. Okay. Delicious. Our actual pick for our... Is this our second one? Yeah. What are you... I think that we go with the one that I sent you in all caps. Yeah. But then that also takes us away. Can we pick also... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. We're going to go pasta. Pasta with meat sauce. Like a nice pasta. A lasagna. A lasagna. Yeah. A lasagna or any sort of pasta carbonara. Yep. Or pasta with red sauce and meat is fantastic leftover. And here's a little fun fact for everyone as a nutritionist.

Pasta, cold pasta has no carbs. So that's just a fact for everyone out there. No carbs, no calories, cold pasta. You can... Whenever you eat cold pasta the next day, you could just eat so much of it. Yeah. And it just goes right down. I'm also going to say that mac and cheese counts under this. Yep. Pasta and sauce. Yeah. So don't even try it. It's a good pick. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. There's like little drops of water in the... You know what I'm talking about? It's actually not gross, but it seems like a gross idea. Pasta with meat sauce in a in a in a tupperware container the next day, you can fucking house that. It gets fresher. Yeah. I brought a big old tupperware of spaghetti bolognese in the other day. It's actually one of those foods that like,

yes, I obviously like it hot, but I kind of sometimes like it as a leftover more. A leftover cold is great, but also if you heat it up in the microwave, you would usually heat it up just a little bit too much and extremely hot leftover pasta is also delicious. Yes. The oil. All right, PFT, we have another pick. I think we either go... The one... Yeah. Well, the problem is they might push back on one of them. Okay. Oh, okay. I know. I like yours. Go do that. Do that. Okay. And then we can save one of those for the last pick, because no one's going to get it, because Hank's should I go with the first one or the second one that I sent you? They're both in the same family. Second one. Okay. Second one. Pie. Yeah. Breakfast pie. So good.

Leftover. Oh, you know, it's really another one that has like half the calories. Exactly. Blueberry pie, apple pie. Let next day. Pumpkin pie. Just a quick pecan pie for breakfast for breakfast. Oh, so great way to start your day. You get that sugar rush. I'd also like to make a plea to the board here. I think cobbler should be included in that. They're kind of pies. I think that they're... It's like a deconstructed pie. Yeah, right. They're so good. Blueberry peach cobbler. So good. Great pick us. Great pick us. Thank you. Hank, anything for you? Hank looks very salty right now. Anything for you? No? No, I look great. I'm happy. You guys like that pick? I saw Max like nod furiously when I was like pasta. No carbs next morning. Yeah, I mean, I'm al dente delente.

I was upset that we didn't go pasta. Oh, okay. Is that your nickname for real? That's actually a Bubba original. Oh, al dente delente. You've got a lot of nicknames already. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. One rep Max, HBO Max. Yeah. You perverted or Italian? Both. Three homers for Hofstra that one year, Max. Yep, that is true. Okay. Our pick, we're going to stay in that family. We're going to go with cake. Oh, we were going to go cake or pie birthday cake the next day. Yeah. Like, you know, a big birthday party, you order a cake that's too big and this will be cake. People in Florida, you know what I'm talking about. It's amazing. This will be an important part of the draft because we were literally deciding between cake

and pie. I give them slight nudge to pie because yeah, no shit because you picked it. Jesus Christ. I mean, like, what were you going to say? I give this slight nudge to the cake. I was going to explain it. Forget it. Let's just do our picks and get out of here. We all know that Jake loves eating cake. That's my name. Well, like, yeah, like, you know, we were meant between this pick or this pick, but I was going to explain why, but forget it. Let's just keep going. But like, but you're just, yeah, yeah, I understand we were going to bake cake and pie. We weren't debating though. I love cake. I love pie. I like, we were. We decided between the two and I was going to talk about it. You can wean the two where it went pie cake. So that's a moment in

history where you can debate back and forth, cake and pie, but that's not what Hank wants to do. So let's keep moving. No, I just, when does a pie stop being a pie and start becoming cake? I think the crust has a lot to do with it. So if there's, I would say the cheesecake is a pie. Yeah. I think a cake is more tempting because it's staring you in the face. A pie, you can't really tell it. It's been eaten into unless you were standing on top of it. You know what I mean? Are you talking about, are you talking about butts or actual cakes here? You're talking about the structure of it. Like, if the cake was there, I could see that there's leftovers. If a, a tin of pie standing there, I wouldn't know. So are we allowed to do this,

Hank? Cause I have a retort. Yes, please. I, the reason why I thought pie is because when you breakfast, cake for breakfast, it's a little heavy. Whereas like an apple pie or blueberry pie, that almost feels like a breakfast food. It's not that, it's not that dissimilar from croissant or some sort of pastry or Danish of fancy French pastry. Are you also taking meat pies? Yes. Okay. We didn't want it, but we'll take it. You just offered it to me. Yeah. Yes. Everybody loves Jake. Everybody loves cake. Yeah. Oh, thank you. Come on, get on with it. Just take memes as first pick. The Kardashians. Yep. That's, do you want memes as first pick? What the fuck? I don't, I respect it. What is that? Well, because they've been run through. Yeah.

Okay. No, go, go with your pick. Confusing sloppy seconds and leftovers here. Yeah. I don't, you know, PFT wants, PFT wants memes. He's got them. And then for our last one, we will go with soup. Oh, good pick. Okay. Great pick. You know, chili and soup. Yeah. Okay. A lot of, a lot of beers. Yeah. Your liquids. You hate chewing in the morning. Don't bother us with chili. Chili, chili, beer, chili, Kardashian soup. Fatal asses. That's a hell of a tip on Rushmore. A lot of liquid in that one. I wish we had already done this one because like, if that were your picks four years ago, reading that back room and like, what the fuck would we just do? Okay. Good picks. I think we caught a dub.

You might just have. Yeah. Wait, wait. Time's, time's not out. Yeah. Okay. So this one, we're going to go with steak. Now hear me out. Making steak sandwiches the next day with mustard. Look, there's people out there who know I'm talking about. Billy, you make a ton of steak. Billy, I'm not going to disagree with you. I actually, I like eating steak. It's not a traditional one. No, if you cut it up and warm it up, it's, if you put it in a pan, flash, little flash pan, it's not that bad. I don't hate the pick. I actually think Billy's team caught the dub. Thanksgiving getting past me was. That's a good pick. That's why I was like, beer and chili. Yeah, don't regret the beer. The beer one was tough. Yeah. Come back on, on, but.

Yeah, I regret it. With steak, I think like turning steak into an impromptu steak and eggs combo next day is fantastic. I mean, I don't, I don't like having like a full steak as a leftover. Right. But if it's like your leftover steak, if it's like a quarter or less, then yeah, tidbits. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, I'm not going to, I'm going to be honest. I don't, I, yeah. You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that beer was a great pick. Yeah, it was. By whoever chose that on Hank's team. Both for that pick then. PFT. What do we want to do with our last pick? We have a couple. Let's see. I'm going to text you back a couple that I'm thinking. And I, I don't know. There's a, there's a couple there. I, okay. I'm going to emphasize one thing

that you sent over. Okay. Consider it emphasized. Oh yeah. Let's do it. That's a great one. Yeah, let's do it. Shepherd's pie. Shepherd's pie. Great. Great. You're picking pie. You can't double pie. Yeah, absolutely not. Okay. So then Shepherd's pie. So we say, we'll say pie and then in parentheses even Shepherd's pie. This is why it's a meat pie. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. All right. So on our graph would be pie of any type of pie, including Shepherd's pie. Dessert pie as your third one. No, we just took pie. No, no, because Billy's right. We, if we don't, if, if we just do dessert pie, then we kind of fucked over because you're right. You're right. I didn't even think pie. I didn't even think about that. It didn't

even dawn on me. I just, I just loved one thing in the chat. Chicken pot pie. Yeah, that counts too. Okay. Yeah. You know what? This is, yeah, we can do this. This will be contentious. I like meat pies more than sweet pies. Yeah. What about cream pies? I like all. You love meat pies. I love meat pies. Um, our last pick is going to be stuffing. Mm. Yep. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Why not? You can make stuffing outside of Thanksgiving. I make stuffing at Christmas time. Everyone is stuffing. No, everyone knows that. That is under my umbrella of Thanksgiving. No, you're a team game, Billy. Whoa, hold on. But we, you can make stuffing at different times. Stuffing should be a year round food. It should not be limited to holidays. But you guys took

Shepherd's pie. Right. So you can't like, we have umbrellas here. But what about like in, in Canada, you're not eating stuffing at Thanksgiving. All right, you want to, I'll make a trade. You want Shepherd's pie and we'll take stuffing and you can, you can take Shepherd's pie for your fourth pick. We'll make a trade. No, no, no, no. Okay. So stuffing stays. No. No. Okay. I don't think stuffing should be limited to Thanksgiving. I, I, I understand the, the argument here. So I'm going to, I'm going to relent. It was, it was in between a rock and a hard place here. It was a valiant attempt by us. We had to make the attempt. It got denied. The attempt got denied, but we had to at least try. I think a court of law you guys would win.

But I don't want you guys to win. So I should know. Okay. Our last pick is going to be light beer. No, I'm just kidding. Vodka. You can do vodka. Of course light. You can do any type of alcohol. Why don't we do your, why don't we do your one from the fridge? P. F. T. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Blue Gatorade in the fridge that you didn't finish next morning. Good one. Yeah. Thank you, Jake. Thanks, Jake. No, no, no, you wake up. You're thirsty as hell. You might be hung over and you see that partially drink. No, no, no, I don't want to know why it's a terrible pick because if it's a leftover, that means you're already assuming you've already taken a sip.

When you're hung over, you want a big, fat class of Gatorade. You're only going to get one sip. It's the four gallon bottle. I didn't tell you, yeah, which size it was. It's actually the Gatorade that they put on the sidelines. But also that would mean like it's leftover from what? Because no one drinks Gatorade like at the night before. You got to be careful. I like to take a little sip off of it. When? Yeah, right the night before. I like to take a little sip off of it. Hank, your argument is negating your beer pick right now. Oh yeah, it's not. Because it's an open beer? No, but there's a leftover, but people bring over beers. That's something that gets left over. No one brings over Gatorade. People bring over Gatorade sometimes. No, it's human being.

Oh, I'm going to bring Gatorade over to your house. Yeah, please do. Gatorade zero. Yeah, moms are always bringing Gatorade over. Body armor. We could have done body armor. Yeah. I'm sticking by my half drank blue Gatorade in the fridge. Terrible pick. Disagree. This is going to be interesting. When you wake up and you drink it, if you only have a half a thing of Gatorade, like that's almost worse. No, sometimes that's the perfect amount of Gatorade to drink. There is no, the perfect amount is unlimited when you're hung over. Wait, so what are your picks, Team Jilly? I think they got it. We have pizza, Thanksgiving. Jilly Dominate this. We got the rhyme. The best part is we've already taped Friday's.

The Kardashians and beers. Yeah, who could forget? Wait, wait, did you guys throw this? No, no, no. No, no, no. Yeah, I mean, they probably did knowing that. Are we at the pizza situation again? Here's a black olive. You already have a win. Here's a pull back to curtain. We already taped Friday's Mount Rushmore because we're all off on Thursday and we said that they Team Jilly were like they won. Just guessing. We let you guys go first. You might have won this. That was a hostile takeover. You might have won this. I still think Chinese is 1-1 by far. It's definitely 1-1. Right. So wait, wait, what did you guys pick first in your pizza? Pizza's good. But we have lasagna. We have pasta. And we went and pie. We kind of fell apart on the fourth pick. Fourth pick

might have soup. Shut up, Peyton. Would you guys have thought Curry was a better four-car dash in? That was the other thing I was thinking of. I mean, I don't like Curry period, so. Curry is very good the next day. Very good. Wait, wait, never mind. What? It's Thai, not Chinese. No, no, I've got mixed up. Oh. Yeah, with the countries. What else? Anyone else? He didn't know it was from Thailand. Anyone got anything weird they liked the next day? McDonald's kind of. Oh, that's gross. I think we did it. How flush more fries would be one? Yeah, worse. I had pulled pork on there. That's a great one the next day. Pulled pork. Chipotle. Yeah, that's a good pick. Chicken salad. Yeah, chicken or tuna salad. Yeah, it's just a weird thing to say out loud.

That's tough for the graphic. Egg salad. That's what I was thinking. But it is a good leftover. Chicken salad's better than like the more that it's in the fridge. Correct. Yeah, the flavors get to know each other. A lot of people disagree with this one. I do like fried chicken the next day. Yeah. Yeah, obviously the skin is not as crispy, but still it's good the next day. Do you guys like, sometimes I like to eat like pancakes, half a bowl of cereal, and then I'll put it in the fridge. Do you like that the next day? That's kind of a good one. Well, you don't like that? I don't think I've ever done that. Sprite. It's delicious. Well, you just eat like half of your like it's fake. What? Wait, Hank, a flat, a flat sprite. Slaps. Slaps. Slaps. Oh, the dinosaur chicken nuggets.

Ah, that's good. Those are good. Yeah, that's good. Your mom puts them in a zip lock. They're leftovers. Yeah, that's good. I never had those. Really good. That is good. You know what, never is good. The leftover sandwiches always sucks. Yeah, the soggy bread. Yeah, it always sucks. You always think it might be okay. Like grilled cheese maybe you can get away with, but everything else. If you get it dry, it's fine. No mayo or mustard or anything. Well, then that's not a sandwich. So if we had said a deli Italian sandwich. Yeah, I'd say no to that. Wait, Jake, you order a sandwich and you get it dry. Yeah, memes, no sauce, no spreads. You get turkey, turkey, cheese, lettuce, tomato, pickles, live a little man, no mustard, no mustard, no

mayo, no Jardine oil, nothing. Oh, man, still enough on it where it tastes good. Disagree. I'm just eating from personal level. No, I'll go one more. You're wrong. Okay. Okay, hamburgers. I want to weigh the room on this one. Hot dogs. hamburgers. I don't hate the next day. I don't. What hamburgers are good. I don't. You can eat that. It's another one that's like cold that goes down so quick. Put it in an omelet. There's no, no calories. Um, what do you guys thoughts on like bacon egg and cheeses? No, so I usually get those for breakfast. So it's rare. That's a that's a full 24 hour left over. It's more like you get like two of them and you eat one then you throw the one in your lunchbox. I do that with McGriddles. Yeah, get like be super hung

over, get like three and then, you know, maybe at like four or five o'clock just be like, yeah, let's have them griddle. Yeah, that's a that's a scumbag move. That's like a, you know, maybe five or 10 years ago, hang over like, yeah, I'm saying scumbag in like a endearing way. Yeah, no, just like, yeah, you're just like, I'm, I'm crushing McGriddles. Yeah, you're like, you're so low. This is what I'm doing. Yeah. And Kardashian. Yeah, it sounds like a great day. Does Kardashian? Well, you have to finish the thought. It's a fall under cake. It's a good job. Nice. Or peach pie. Get it. All right. Numbers 69. Hank, have you ever gotten this? Jake, there's a new guy. Yeah, there's a new account. I reached 51 that I'm

going to follow. Everyone should go follow it. Has Hank ever gotten the number right? Did Hank win the lottery? Yeah, did Hank win the lottery? I'll go with 39. Put that back. I'm going to go with one. I'll say 56. I have a feeling this is Hank's time. No. Big one. No chance. He, Hank, in a karmic way, he doesn't deserve it. He's got a very bad boy. Hank's got it in the, oh, I just saw one floating its way up to the top. Oh, 36. That one was close. Love you guys. Mules are sterile, and they're actually better workers than horses or donkeys. Is that donkeys? Mules. Are they donkeys? They're half donkey, half horse. What are donkeys? Donkeys are donkeys. They're also sterile, right? No, just mules. Okay. Now, are mules sterile? Are

they infertile? Infer, they're sterile ants. Well, there's been instances of female mules reproducing, but it's very rare. Okay. It was actually amazing. They're like way better than horses or donkeys. How else did they get born? Well, it takes one horse and one donkey. Donkey and a horse. Fuck. There's also zorces. What's that? It's a horse and zebra. It's not just a zebra. It's about elephants. It's about jelbis. Giraffe and his zebra. I don't know. Love you guys. Love you guys. Needless to say, I'm upset. It's about being stolen away. Slowly learning that life is okay.

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