Pardon My Take - Booger McFarland, Dana White, Rams End Vikings Season + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: January 15, 2025

The Rams end the Vikings season and Sam Darnold’s dream run is over(00:00:00-00:20:23). We talk future for Darnold , Cowboys Fire Mike McCarthy and the pinky bet (00:20:23-00:35:36). Hot Seat/Cool T...hrone including China and Lane Kiffin and Jeontay Porter (00:35:36-00:51:25). Booger McFarland joins the show to talk NFL Divisional round, college football national championship, Rams defense and more (00:51:25-01:33:48). Dana White joins the show to talk UFC 311, power slap, getting oiled up and a crazy future fight (01:33:48-01:54:55). We finish with guys on chicks (01:54:55-02:05:55).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:02:47 And the Los Angeles Rams are a problem because they demolished the Minnesota Vikings who end with one of the weirdest seasons possible. 14 wins, four losses. They only lost to two teams. They lost to the Lions and the Rams, that's it. Great team, we're not playing those two teams. Yeah, they won five games to start the season,
Starting point is 00:03:10 lost to the Lions and Rams, ripped off nine wins, and then lost to the Lions and Rams. Yeah, it's tough, it's tough, but in a way, if you go out like this, it does make it maybe a little bit easier when it comes time to make a decision on Sam Darnold. Yeah, the Sam Darnold pumpkin did in fact happen now. He got sacked a million times. But uh, Some of those were on him. Yeah, the rams defense was incredible. The rams just overall like we we we were sniffing around it
Starting point is 00:03:35 We're like what is Sean McVeigh up to? Yeah, he doesn't care about seeding Uh, he had a perfect game plan. The rams look great stafford looked like he was healthy for the first time in a long time. But yeah, I agree. Some of those were Sam Darnold not seeing it. And I think Troy might've said it. Maybe it was in week 18 someone said that the problem with Sam Darnold is he has to see it to throw it, guy. He's not throwing as much anticipation, throwing guys open, and he couldn't see it last night.
Starting point is 00:04:05 Yeah, Troy, there was something up with Troy's voice. Did you notice that? Yeah, also. It seemed like he was also, he was very, very frustrated. I love when Troy Aikman gets mad at a team because he gets so disgusted. He just hates bad football. Yeah, and he was so mad about them being down 18
Starting point is 00:04:18 and they were running the ball and going slow to the line. That was a problem for me too in the third quarter. Yeah. You're down, how many scores are they down, two or three? They were down 18, I believe. they were down 18 points and they're calling like three running plays in a row and taking their time getting in the huddle, getting up to the ball. Like you got to go at this point. And at that, I felt like Kevin
Starting point is 00:04:35 O'Connell just knew he wasn't going to win. He's like, it's not in the cards today. Yeah. So what's really what's what's the rush? Yeah. So the couple things Minnesota, we've talked about this before. Minnesota fans listening to this right now, you guys deserve credit for being one of the most cursed sports cities out there. The last time they were in a championship round
Starting point is 00:04:57 was 1991 with the twins. They've had some really, really, like, the problem with the Minnesota sports is they're actually, like, good, like the problem with the Minnesota sports is they're actually like good but they're never good enough to win and they haven't had a title in whatever is yet 30 years and they have all four major teams and the Vikings especially feel like that curse franchise where they have these seasons where they're phenomenal and then they fall flat and everything went wrong for them last
Starting point is 00:05:25 night. Yeah. It's like if you built an entire city out of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah. That's what their sports teams have been like. I do feel bad for him. I do too. This is a good team. Yeah. And now they have to face some a lot of it's not just Sam Darnold. They have a lot of free agents coming up this off season and you have to figure out what's going on with your coach because he doesn't have a contract. Yes. He's probably going to win coach of the year as he should. He had a great season but he's not he's not locked in for the long term yet. Yeah. It did feel like the last two games he got. I don't want to. I mean it just didn't go well. I mean the Rams did a lot of what Aaron Glenn
Starting point is 00:05:55 did in week 18 defensively. And yeah they they I think honestly for like a positive spin zone for Vikings fans this is is, as much as it's frustrating because you're a 14-win team and you lose like that in the first round, this might be a long-term positive because you are not gonna give Sam Darnold a long-term contract. You might still franchise tag him just because that gives you flexibility
Starting point is 00:06:19 if J.J. McCarthy is not all the way ready and you could potentially trade Sam Darnold to a team that needs him for... You get two first rounders for him. Right. So, like I could still see that happening, but in a weird way, this is actually a positive where it's like you're not going to give, you're not going to commit to Sam Donald long term after how this season ended. I also, I was talking to a friend of mine who's a Vikings fan last night and it is crazy to look back. The Minnesota Vikings have a special skill where
Starting point is 00:06:46 they make old quarterbacks or quarterbacks on like their fourth or fifth stop really fucking good for a year and then it just completely vanishes. So going back Randall Cunningham when he was 39 years old, this was after he retired. He retired for a year. He had the second best QB rating of his career with the Minnesota Vikings. Jeff George, he was on his fourth team. He had his best career QB rating for the Minnesota Vikings. Brett Favre, he was 40 years old and this is crazy. Brett Favre had his best career QB rating with the Minnesota Vikings when he was 40, then turned back to dust. It happened with Case Keenum, his fourth team, best season of his career, best QB rating, turned to dust. And then Sam Darnold,
Starting point is 00:07:32 again, best fourth team, best season of his career, best QB rating. It's something about the, I think really what the answer is, the Vikings are elite at drafting wide receivers and running backs. So it's a really good place for a quarterback to go go but they've had this in the last 20 years where a quarterback comes in Josh Dobbs Josh Dobbs yeah like they did leave one out that goes against that narrative what McNabb yeah McNabb was bad yeah I remember going to to to watch Bears Vikings and maybe it was like 2012 and McNabb it was a Monday night football game and he was just throwing the ball into the dirt yeah that's fat McNabb yeah it was bad but night football game and he was just throwing the ball into the dirt. Yeah, that was fat McNabb. Yeah, it was bad. But they do have this ability
Starting point is 00:08:08 to make these quarterbacks on their fourth team or late in their career, have career years and then it's just poof, they're back to nothing. But now that happened again, but you have J.J. McCarthy. Look at their free agents coming up right now. Okay, Sam Darnold. Yeah, Aaron Jones. Yeah cam acres Byron Murphy cam Robinson is a free agent good draft for running back. So yep Shaq Griffin and Stefan Gilmore, okay, so they've got a lot of free agents. They still though they have I think they have a lot of cap space 73 million they draft well, they have a good coach and they have JJ McCarthy so I as much as that was a painful season and Daniel Jones in that room and so got so bad last night that I honestly wanted to see Daniel Jones I thought it was maybe gonna happen the like I saw some people being like man if the Vikings had just been
Starting point is 00:09:03 bad this year we would have had a great draft pick and then we would have been loaded with JJ McCarthy. I, I still think like, I mean, the season had to have been fun. Yeah. Like I know it ended poorly, but like there's no, you can't root for sport, your team and root for sports and just every year being like, Oh, just get a good draft pick. That's not fun for next year. Yeah. We should be loaded for next year.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Also, we don't know how JJ McCarthy is going to play in December and January. He can't go outside and touch grass. That's not fun for next year. Yeah, we should be loaded for next year. Also, we don't know how JJ McCarthy is going to play in December and January. He can't go outside and touch grass. That's true in Minnesota. That's true. But he so I like as weirdly as that game went for the Vikings and you know, I don't want to say they were frauds because they they were they do want 14 games were this is not the same Vikings that we saw a couple years ago with right negative point differential and they lost in the playoffs the Giants I think
Starting point is 00:09:46 it's a it's a different feel to the season they were a legitimately good team right maybe it's just they got they got they have two kryptonites they have the Rams mm-hmm and they have the Lions the Lions so if you can get a schedule next season where you don't play the Lions somehow that would be optimal for the Vikings the week 17 Viking celebration after Packers win looks a little bit not as fun. Well, you know what? It's also the same thing.
Starting point is 00:10:11 We talked about this earlier in the season. Teams, after they play the Lions, suck. So as long as you don't play the Rams right after you play the Lions. They did that twice. You had to do it twice. You might be better than the Rams. You just happened to have gotten your ass kicked by the lines
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, and and on the flip side as for the Rams I'm concerned about my pinky max You should be concerned about this game on Sunday. They looked Really fucking good in their defense. We're gonna talk about it with booger more, but their defense is very good their pass rush is awesome What are you thinking? It's playoffs second round of playoffs you're gonna play good teams Rams are a good team Eagles are a better team. Oh fuck you. Gotta get gotta get Jalen Hurts out of concussion protocol. Jalen Hurts will be fine. Okay what do you think about a game plan? Oh better game plan what do you
Starting point is 00:10:59 think about the game plan matchup of Nick Sirianni and Sean McVeigh who do you think has the edge? Nick Sirianni and Sean McVeigh? Who do you think has the edge? Nick Sirianni, better winning percentage. Yeah, that's true. That's a good point. That's true. Sean McVeigh, he does, I was about to say he doesn't get enough credit. He does get a lot of credit. Oh yeah. But I guess I'll just say it's all very well deserved. Yeah, absolutely well deserved. He's a great, great coach. Yeah. And I, so I don't know't know this is the this is ties for the the deepest the pinky team has gotten I believe the Texans also got to the divisional round. One in the stink. There's some people who are like expecting me to cut off my entire finger I'm not gonna do that I still know
Starting point is 00:11:38 legally how I would do it. I would cut the whole thing off. If the Rams win the Super Bowl? No and I'm just saying if it were me yeah I think you. I would be a man about it. I'm gonna do the the tip my pinky I'm I am officially nervous though. I Don't know what else to say. Well when you look at the Rams, they've got a great head coach They've got a quarterback who if if we get the Matt Stafford that we got a Monday night He could win the Super Bowl. Yeah, except for that pass that the Vikings got screwed on that that was a fumble That was a fumble. He did it You have to take a loophole. You can't just drop it
Starting point is 00:12:09 Yeah, like that was it that was as much of a fumble as a fumble gets you he dropped the ball You know what the tuck rule? Yeah, that was a loophole. Yeah, that's a savvy vet. It was a savvy That's where I said I said it best throw he's ever made. It was a great throw Yeah, I mean he had a receiver that was technically in the area Yeah I we need to we need to revamp intentional grounding Because there's so many times when it's clearly when you throw the ball directly at the feet of your receiver on a screen that you're Trying to get rid of you're not trying to complete the pass there
Starting point is 00:12:37 Well, it's the only rule in football where they the refs always have to like huddle up and be like, alright, what'd you see? What'd you see and every other, you just throw a flag. And then they do the sad little impotent flag. After they have the conversation, they just take it out of the truck and just drop it and like gravity do the work. Yeah. At least throw the flag after it. But yeah, we need to think about intentional grounding because there's so many times where you'll see a quarterback just spike the ball on the ground. Yeah. And they're like, well, there was a receiver in the area. Yeah. So I,
Starting point is 00:13:04 I'm, I'm worried about the ramps. I, I do. I do have someone who's actually worse off than me right now. I don't know if you guys saw this floating around. This is from someone. I don't know his full username on Reddit, but he said, Hello, fellow degenerates. As many of you are aware, two months ago, I made a bet that I would chop off my humongous ding dong if Notre Dame fighting Irish won the college football playoffs. At the time it seemed like a safe and comical bet as Notre Dame had only played against our nation's troops and we were looking like the next fraud alert. However, due to flawed playoff seeding and Carson Beck's weak pussy ass, I found myself in a situation where Notre Dame will be playing for a national championship next week, placing my dick right on the chopping block. I just want to make it very clear that if Notre Dame wins the national championship, I will firmly stick to my word and receive a professional surgery that will safely remove my penis.
Starting point is 00:13:53 The timeline for this though will have to be flexible as I do have to consider my wife who would like to have at least two children in the event that I have to follow through with my bet. She has agreed to accelerate our family planning so I can get the surgery as soon as possible I refuse to let my team be cursed and if it means that I will lose my cock in the process and so be it also just FYI I'm banned from CFB memes so I cannot respond to anything there That rocks I can't believe I'm saying this but go Buckeyes That rocks I love that he just threw in like by the way the the mods over at our slash CFB kicked me off Yeah, took away my freedom of speech fuck them so I'll post it here
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, cuz I keep cuz I keep talking about my penis getting cut off about your picky toe. Oh Well, then fuck up my balance. Yeah do both Listen, I have no member with member when I think it was the Texans year. We were in baton I was never close though. No, I mean they were yeah, but they This feels very real. We're it's Let's win this game. Let's relax. Well, no, it's about to say that we all have Fucking with the Eagles and the Rams the Rams have the better coach. I think yeah, the Rams have the better quarterback
Starting point is 00:14:59 I think the Rams strength on their defense is it's their front four they were just getting the backfield I actually think that the Eagles will be able to neutralize that yeah because your offensive line is so good I hope so we ran for 300 yards against this okay do it again Yeah Also if say Kwan bar if say Kwan Barkley does what the rest of the NFL wants them to do Eagles win that game 29 to 10 on Sunday. Yeah, that's true, and and it's different. It's a scoreboard Well, I mean that was a huge fumble thing thing yesterday that everyone was talking about was why Saquon went down
Starting point is 00:15:32 Oh, yeah team player. Yeah, he's a player Maybe AJ gets his nose out of the quote book and into the playbook. No, did you see that? Yeah, did you see that they they found another picture of him reading it in a game where he had a hundred yards and and 15 actually 97 yards All right, I'm just a mantis. I'm just telling you it was 97 yards the Do you remember when we were in the year that the? Texans were like I think they started 0 and 3 and then won like 10 in a row or something we're at a tailgate in Baton Rouge and
Starting point is 00:16:02 Now we're at a tailgate in Baton Rouge So this all comes under the the idea that we were all hammered. But I talked to a doctor and I asked him if he could surgically cut off my pinky. A Louisiana doctor. And he was like, legally, no doctor will ever do that. Because you can't just be like, I lost a bet, cut off my pinky. Maybe go to like Turkey or like Tijuana or something It's our delegate they do the hair surgeries and also have doctors that will remove fingers
Starting point is 00:16:29 Yeah, just take off a digit. How about you just go over Saudi Arabia get caught stealing. Ah Gamble yeah. Yeah chop it right off. Also. I did see I forgot to mention this Phil fan ack I forgot to mention this Phil fan AK On Twitter said Donald got his screen shaken route squiggly as fuck wide receiver icon showing up his question marks all that shit That's exactly what happened. He was playing with the stadium pulse at a million Yeah, and he couldn't see anything it sucks that he has the scene ghost clip out there Yeah
Starting point is 00:17:00 Because I'm sure other quarterbacks have said stuff like that and they've been miked up when they said it But he got fucked by ESPN Yeah, he got double fucked by ESPN because they also did the out indefinitely Mononucleosis graph on yep, and they did the CEO somebody ESPN hates Sam Darnold Yep, and now every time he has these games which most quarterbacks will have a game like that where they they get nervous because they get Hit a lot. Yeah, it's coming from weird directions. But with him, he's seeing ghosts. What? It was Haley Joel Osmond.
Starting point is 00:17:28 What happens to Sam Donald? Do you think another team signs him? I go back to what I said on Sunday night, which is that they should franchise him. And then the Steelers should go out there and trade two first round picks for him. Man, that would be bad for the Steelers. I also did a poll and a lot of Steelers fans
Starting point is 00:17:43 were like, Tomlin's gotta go. So that does feel like the vibe. Well, Tomlin might have to go, but if you're Mike Tomlin, I almost feel like Tomlin should want to go. Yeah. Because, but then again, he has the, he's the king of the castle. True. You don't give up the king of the castle. But with Tomlin, he has gotten some like very mediocre teams and some below average teams to the playoffs Yeah, right We can agree on that that the personnel and the the offensive scheme especially hasn't always been great in Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:18:11 So he's like done more with less if you're Mike Tomlin aren't you like get me a quarterback general manager Get me another wide receiver general manager. Give me some offensive line help. That's on the GM But he's not on Mike Tomlin. But he signs off on every single draft pick and every free agent signing. Like literally everything. He touches everything in that entire organization. That was, because I made that point
Starting point is 00:18:34 and people were like, dude, Tomlin, he has full control. No one gets drafted in Pittsburgh without Tomlin approval. Without giving a thumbs up, yeah. Yeah, but also he's like very much involved in the draft process, too So I think both sides should want it's better if you go somewhere else. Yeah, I see it as an Andy Reid situation. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, like you ran him out of town We did not run him out of town and I don't think I don't think Steelers fans necessarily would be running Mike Tomlin out of town
Starting point is 00:19:01 But I think sometimes it's good for both parties to, you know, start new. The difference is with Andy Reid, he had, they bottomed out. And true. Right, so like that's the problem with Tomlin is he's not, he can't, he is too good of a coach to ever bottom out. Like if the Steelers won three games this year, I think the situation is a lot easier. Andy Reid also had the never can win the big one thing. That's true.
Starting point is 00:19:24 And he had clock management issues But that was yeah, yeah It'll be interesting. I don't know. So we uh, so yeah, the Rams are a problem. I'm Officially nervous max we need to go to war. I'm going to war side-by-side with you again This just might be the situation all all playoffs I'm nervous. Yeah, I think next week. Yeah, I think ball playoffs. I'm nervous. Yeah. I think next week, I think there's still 22 to one to win the, to win the super bowl. Yeah. I was thinking about betting them and I was like, wait, what am I doing? Why would I want to do that? Yeah. You don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah. Like a hundred thousand dollars doesn't make me happy that I am in this. Also, if people wanted, I did have a bunch of people being like dude, we don't actually want to see your pinky chopped off If anyone had any other ideas, I'm I'm committed to much like the dick chop off guy You're too early on this. Yeah, but I'm committed to it. I'm committed to it. I know but let's let's wait Let's see what happens this week. Let's wait. You shouldn't don't get nervous until the NFC championship game There's a lot of football out there. But Jalen Hurts is concussed. It's true.
Starting point is 00:20:28 Do you think that when when Dan Campbell shook hands with Kevin O'Connell at midfield and said we'll see in a couple of weeks, do you think he met Cancun? Oh, nice. Was that the lines? Imagine if your pinky was riding on Jay Daniels. Yeah, listen, there's that wouldn't He's done crazy things. Mm-hmm like Just get it get me get me late in the game with the with a one-score game and I'd be like, yeah
Starting point is 00:20:54 This will work. Yep. Don't give away too much. That's part of my keys to the game All right. So the other big news we had was the Cowboys are officially moving on from Mike McCarthy Really kind of fucked him. Jerry Jones is a dick. He's an asshole. He blocked him from doing interviews. He's also a pussy. He's a dick, an asshole, and a pussy. Yeah, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:13 So I thought he was going to stay because they were blocking him. But clearly that's not the case. There was also did you see the reports that Belichick like that was a place Belichick would have been interested in but he had done some like back-channeling and they said like the job wasn't opening up. Like when he was, you know, considering UNC. So Jerry Jones is just going off like day-to-day vibes. Or he was waiting until Monday Night Football of Wild Card weekend.
Starting point is 00:21:37 As Mike Florio told us, he likes to drop this type of news during a time when the spotlight's on the NFL. And so he might have just waited to do the news dump on The Monday night the opposite of a news dump. Yeah, you get the most attention in which case It's a world-class asshole move and now Mike McCarthy I'm assuming that he's gonna get an interview like tomorrow with I think he already is with like three teams Yeah, so I've thought long and hard about it. I've made a list of spin zones
Starting point is 00:22:04 Reasons why Mike McCarthy will be fine if he ends up being the Bears head coach walls are talking. The walls are talking. Where are the walls saying the walls are talking. It's a done deal. In which wall it is all at the same walls that said Christian McCaffrey would never take another snap again. Different wall though. But but same same wall. Yeah. All right. So here's my here's my list. You guys can you guys can tell me. I just want to say first of all I I don't even remember ever saying anything bad about Mike McCarthy. So like I was thinking about it like the interview if he
Starting point is 00:22:39 becomes a Bears head coach that we do with him won't even be that funny. Like I can't remember saying anything bad about Mike McCarthy. So here's my- You've always said he looks intelligent. Yeah. You've always said that he looks svelte. Yeah, and I-
Starting point is 00:22:50 You've always said that he looks skinny and smart. To my knowledge. That's a foundational tactic. I've never said it. All right, so here's my spin zones. When we do the eventual interview with Mike McCarthy, Bears head coach, Mike McCarthy is so grotesquely fat
Starting point is 00:23:03 that I'll actually look skinny next to him. Okay, that's true. Does that feel right? That feels mean. I've never said anything mean about Mike McCarthy. Well, you just said he's grotesquely fat. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. His clock management can't get worse than the Iberfluces. That is probably true, but we don't know because we haven't seen we never saw Yerber Fluss play in very important game Yeah true um Analytics he's got the the pro football. What are you looking up? You're looking up all the Mike McCarthy tweets He's got every time I've never said anything bad about him. He's got all the computer guys. He's got all the computer guys He's got a PFF subscription Listen He's got all the computer guys. He's got a PFF subscription. Listen, how about this?
Starting point is 00:23:50 Mike McCarthy, when he does that really dumb fat look to the Jumbotron, one, there's no Jumbotron in Soldier Field. Two, I feel like that's kind of relatable. Like I look stupid when I'm confused and have that like, oh god, I wish I could change this. So Mike McCarthy, he's a relatable head coach. Not many out there. Yeah. He hates fruit so much that he smashes it. Yeah. Right. Exactly. I have that on there. I have, he's not from Chicago, but that doesn't mean you can't love the Bears. Right? Right? Yeah. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:24:24 He will maybe smash a watermelon. I would Right? Yeah. That's a point. Um, he will maybe smash a watermelon. I would love to smash a watermelon with Mike McCarthy. I think that's gotta be your like when he signs video smashing the watermelon. Yeah. Yeah. Like you should get that on deck. Yeah. He knows how to beat the Packers. Yep. Sometimes that was his own team that he was beating, but he does know how to beat the Packers. He's 174 and 112 all time as a coach and he has a super bowl. I he's a good coach. And he has a Super Bowl. I've talked myself, I'm just trying to get ahead of it because I feel like this is gonna happen.
Starting point is 00:24:50 When you say that he knows how to beat the Packers, would you also say that he knows how to beat the Bears? He does know how to beat the Bears. But that was in Aaron Rodgers' merchant, that hurts me actually, nevermind. Memes, you want Mike McCarthy? Oh yeah, I would take him in a second. Really? Three straight seasons of 12 and 5, the Jets haven't had a winning record in 10 years.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah. You reunite him with Aaron Rodgers? 10. 2015 was the last winning season and we didn't make the playoffs. Oh I said I don't think Mike McCarthy is capable of a non-embarrassing loss. It's either win the Super Bowl or something hilariously dumb will happen, no. That's not that that's good for us. That's good for the show. Yeah. Good for the show. Yeah, we're going spin zones here. These are all spin zones. He just he looks like a Chicago guy. He's a Pittsburgh. It's the Pittsburgh is the dick. Yeah, Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:25:40 connection. Yeah, the I don't know. Yeah, You remember when they had him on Nickelodeon? Yeah. Painted his face and made him look all angry. I told you big fat dumb Mike McCarthy season has arrived. See? All right. So maybe I've said some things about Mike McCarthy. This would be very funny interview. It seems like this might be some self-loathing too, because a lot of the criticisms you have about Mike McCarthy applied directly to coach Dougugs. Yeah. Yeah bad clock management. Yeah grotesquely fat. Mm-hmm I Think it's gonna happen though. I think the Saints though. He was an assistant on the Saints I would personally rather live in New Orleans. Yeah, not that I hate Chicago. It's just New Orleans is the best city on planet Earth I don't know if I'd want to live in New Orleans. I would like to visit New Orleans
Starting point is 00:26:24 I would love to live visiting New Orleans is great What there's a good one in 2020 just finished taping PMT great show coming and we've done the impossible We've talked ourselves into liking Mike McCarthy What was that context? After what after what game? Who knows memes is looking this one this one wasn't as good they could definitely win the Super Bowl I'm talking about the Cowboys but just remember that big oh no this is about the packer I don't know this Cowboys but
Starting point is 00:26:51 just remember that big fat face of Mike McCarthy during crunch time that will keep you grounded they beat the Texans 35 20 on October 25th 2020 who could forget yeah that in story rivalry Okay, so Memes you take them But sure okay because right now I Who isn't a lead right now for the Jets had Rex Ryan now Rex Ryan was ruled out. Oh he was Oh, you should have let him you should have strung him along so he could have done more countdown you know stuff. Oh it was the Mike McCarthy maybe when he did the swag dance that was pretty cool. They should just not tell Rex Ryan and so then
Starting point is 00:27:33 as the season progresses Rex is always like well maybe they'll fire him this week. Yeah and they might come to me. Yeah. It could still be mine. So if Mike McCarthy goes to the Bears a lot of people are thinking Aaron Glenn might go to the Saints which might leave the Jets with Matt Nagy or Arthur Smith. Two friends of the show. Yeah. That's great. And this is Ben Johnson going to the Raiders under this assumption. Yep. I actually think that Mike McCarthy would be a good coach for the Bears. I think It could be way way worse. I've taught I've talked myself do not want Ron Rivera Yeah, like if you know I understand why the McCasky family is attracted to the idea of Ron Rivera for history in Terms of a football coach. I don't think he's a serious candidate. You could not make a worse decision
Starting point is 00:28:21 I want Ben Johnson or Todd Monk and those are the two but I Yeah, it's the walls have made me very nervous with how this seems to be going forward. All right, anything else for, oh, Deion Sanders talked to Jerry Jones, which would be very funny. That's what I want. Yeah. I mean, if you're a fan of the NFL
Starting point is 00:28:43 and just following the Cowboys being just insane, you want Deion Sanders. I also want it because it would be very funny if it was the Cowboys trade Dak to Cleveland. Cleveland has Dak and Deshaun and then they trade their first pick and then Deion takes Shador or Travis Hunter, and then coaches the Cowboys. So if you're Deion, you would want to coach your son. You don't want to go to the NFL for the first time
Starting point is 00:29:11 as a head coach, and then immediately have another team draft your son. Yeah. I imagine that there's, he's gonna want Shador. Yeah, I would imagine. I'd want Travis Hunter more. Also with Dak, he does have a no trade glove. Ah.
Starting point is 00:29:23 So that would probably. You don't think he'd waive it for Cleveland? Cleveland, I mean have a no trade glove. Ah. So that would probably... You don't think he'd do it? He'd waive it for Cleveland? Cleveland, I mean, they got everything else? Listen, DeJon Watson having another Achilles injury is a great thing for the Browns. I was talking to Zupy about it, one of our coworkers who's a Browns fan, like, you don't want him playing anymore. Just be done, like, if Russell Wilson taught us anything, just like, get off, get on with
Starting point is 00:29:42 your mistake. You also don't want him using your team issued rehab staff, correct? And that's another year that just stay away like start moving on. There's no there's no reason to Pretend there's gonna be anything different like Deshaun Watson not gonna come back from double Achilles surgery. Yeah and horrendous last four years and all of a sudden be Deshaun Watson from the Texans. Yeah. He's just not. So it's actually almost better. Like it's taking the choice out where it's like, we're just going to move on from this. He wasn't even trying Watson from the Texans right after he was off the Texans.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Right. He was, he's been bad from the get go. Yeah. Um, all right. So yeah. Any other cleanup from this week? Oh, max, would you like to, uh, disavow the Philly fan Complete disavow that guy was a huge asshole, but big Dom has already taken care of it, so we're good Yeah, so for people who missed it there was a viral video of a Packers fan basically getting verbally harassed by a Eagles fan it was a bad verbally bad verbally harassed like shitty shitty stuff and then that guy has been doxxed I believe and he's been banned from the eagle and Big Dom has contacted the woman the Packers fan and hooked him up with the care package Big Dom saved the day. Yeah Big Dom saved the day because there was worries that that guy was going to be karma
Starting point is 00:31:00 for all of Philadelphia but now Philadelphia has removed themselves and that guy from the situation. That's a bad guy. Is not affiliated with anything Philadelphia Eagles. Love that. I like that. Take a strong stand against it. And then after they doxed him, some of the reports were like, this guy had a daughter and he was married to a woman. How could he say these things? Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:22 Like you have to have a daughter to know to not call a a cunt. Yeah. But he clearly. I Max, I'm not so sure that this completely removes the stink and the curse. Like this is, it's a bad look for Philadelphia. I understand he does not represent Philadelphia and you guys have taken all necessary steps up to this point to get, get this guy out of the picture, which I appreciate. I got a big dom. Yeah, I have an idea too. Okay, you go. Okay. So my good friend the B from hard factor, he sent me the official NFL fan rehabilitation quiz. Oh, this is what fans have to do to get invited back to the stadium. I love they get kicked out for fighting for puking. If there's like a kid behind them hypothetically that they turn around and they put their hand down their throat And they make themselves throw up on that kid. You're just talking all Philly stories. Yeah city In order to get back into the stadium. They have to do an official fan rehabilitation quiz to make sure that they're ready
Starting point is 00:32:15 I think you should take this quiz I'll take the quiz. I can take that right now. I I have it I think it's probably too long to do on the show. Can we find one or two questions? I was thinking for, for we do. We'll do it for PMTV. Oh, that's perfect. We'll do it for PMTV. All right. So tune into PMTV Max take the quiz. I had another one. I was just going to say, uh, you know, we have AWOs who listen, who are fans of all teams. Um, maybe you should just take a packer fan out to dinner. We, we gave that packer fan out to dinner. We gave the packer fan a care pack. Okay. Maybe give you know what I actually find follow what no you find I'll take some back Jack McCarthy
Starting point is 00:32:54 out. No no no not Jack. By one random AWL packer fan lunch. You don't have to deal with him out. You just have to take like they'll tweet at you. You just say feel you have to take them out deal set the tip like they'll tweet at you You you just say hey, you know tell me where tell me where the foods going boom done deal Or if you just want to like send me a receipt all them. Oh you for what's going on? Oh, no You said you do the class yeah, I Said I said I thought it was a test yes. Yeah,, it's just it's a it's a class and test You said test is different than a class. Why you need a class? It's a I'm not taking a class for our online test class Yes, what he just showed me and it specifies the NFL Stadium like there's a Philadelphia class I'll do that
Starting point is 00:33:41 Okay, I'll do it for our includes what is gonna. That's that's my whole that's my whole day tomorrow What is disruptive fan behavior review of the stadium alcohol policy? Mm-hmm education on stadium safety skills in game day empathy Skills in improving game day communication skills and game day stress management. Yeah, actually you could use all these things Game day drinking can be dangerous. That's one of the modules. Yes. I think you should take this class. I'll take the class.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I'll take the class. And that removes all stink from this guy. Yeah, and the lunch. And someone send me their receipt for lunch. I'll then know you received for lunch. I need you to be curse free through these playoffs I need you to be curse free especially this weekend yeah no I'm gonna I'll take the class I'll then mow a packer fame for lunch fuck yes okay this is good we need to get all the
Starting point is 00:34:36 stink off it's crazy all the stink off you better pass it. You also should, you know what? He also. You're not going to pass it. The passing, I feel like I got to study. The passing I'm not promising. Who gets you a certificate and everything? Yeah. A diploma. I think also on the PMTV you should go, you should go around the office and compliment all the women in the office in a, in a natural like way that is nice.
Starting point is 00:35:03 That's not uncomfortable. Just give him a compliment Let's see. We got it. We got to just get the karma going in the right direction here I can't wait to hear max's non-sexual compliments that he gives. Yeah You know one said sexual except for you. Well, that's true said like put on the bonk. Yeah You're gonna go out your way to be like, you're, uh, I like, I like your shoes. Yeah. Hey, how is the bonk list going? Uh, that will be the first mission. Okay. Okay. Nice. What's saying non-sexual? It's a balk now. Hey, did that woman that was, that was, uh, like you assuming that talking to a woman is going to be sexual.
Starting point is 00:35:44 Yeah. I could compliment them on their work. Yeah, I was saying, like you're Mike Pence. I was saying that that Max was going to go out of his way to make sure it wasn't creepy or weird. Yeah, but by you, but by you assuming that made it creepy or weird. Okay. Because, but factor fiction, you would be going out of your way to be like, what's the least weird thing I can compliment you.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I mean, we were, this is an office. I can compliment them on their work. Can you? We haven't seen it. Yeah. All right. We'll get this going in the right direction. Good job. All right, should we do Hot Seat Cool Throne
Starting point is 00:36:15 and then get to our interviews? Okay, let's get to Hot Seat Cool Throne. I mentioned on Monday's show, we have a new sponsor, Doritos, our favorite chips ever. Awesome that Doritos is on board with PMT. We got something special they're running a contest for the Super Bowl. And we're gonna watch a Doritos commercial and react to it. And the first one up is called Abduction, so hit it Max. Aliens. I like that.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Like it? Haven't had a good alien movie in a while? Yeah. So, that was a very cool ad because aliens, I think if aliens came down to earth right now, the first thing they'd want is Doritos. Oh, if they saw that Doritos chip that we have in our trophy case, the perfectly seasoned Cool Ranch Doritos, you would travel across the galaxy for that. So with Patrick Holmes' help, Doritos just revealed the top three ads that are still
Starting point is 00:37:34 in the running to win the Doritos Crash to Super Bowl. We're going to watch all three during this show. Now it is up to the people to choose which creator will win $1 million and have their submission run as Doritos 25th Super Bowl ad by voting for their favorite fan made ad at DoritosCrash.com. Now until January 28th fans can visit DoritosCrash.com and cast their vote for who they think is the winning ad. Will it be abduction? We're going to watch barbershop and charades after this. So vote for the next Super Bowl ad at DoritosCrash.com. DoritosCrash.com. Thank you Doritos. I'll meet some Doritos after the show. Hank, Hot Seat Cool Throne.
Starting point is 00:38:10 My hot seat is Layne Kiffin. Yeah. Okay. Sydney Thomas, the viral ring girl from the Jake Paul fight. I don't know who that is. She was the ring girl in the Jake Paul fight. She was the lady that was I obviously didn't I obviously Know who it is guys. I follow her on all our socials Your bike is on damn that was way too much of a laugh Seems like a very nice young woman and She was doing an interview and she said that an SEC coach actually slid in her DMS
Starting point is 00:38:46 And then I think one of her you know everyone kind of assumed it was laying kiffin and then one of her friends just like straight-up posted a snapchat showing the DM oh, he just damn their RTR. Oh because No, but was that after because then she golfed with She golfed with Nick Saban. Yeah. So I think he DM'd her roll tide roll after she golfed with Nick Saban. I do not believe that's a timeline, you could be correct,
Starting point is 00:39:12 but I think she golfed with Saban on Monday. Right, and that's when Lane quote tweeted the picture and said, Lane quote tweeted the picture of her golfing with Saban being like, looks like mystery solved. Yeah, he was trying to, he was a joke like it was the why would he why would he snapchat or our RTR? No, she's under RTR. Ah, what is your Alabama? One of her friends took a scream like a got a picture of her of the DM message got it
Starting point is 00:39:39 So like the DM got leaked via her friend snapchat. I was how I interpreted I was confused why he would DM RTR, but she went to Alabama. I forgot that part. Right. Yeah. Got it. I mean why did everybody think it was laying Kiffin? I don't understand. I was thinking maybe Mark Stoops Sam Pittman was my first Sam Pittman a lot of disrespect to their chest size. Shane Beamer not being tossed in the equation. She'd Beamer. Yeah. Yeah. Billy Napier could have been Billy. Yeah. There's a lot of Brian Kelly. Brian Kelly. That would. Yeah. Yeah. Brian. We have talked enough about how bad of a time Brian Kelly's having. Not only did LSU not make a 12 team playoff and last year was not great but he now has Notre Dame the team
Starting point is 00:40:27 he left where he said you can't win a national title here playing for national title in the first 12 team playoff. Right. Right. This is this is a tough time of year for him. All right. So laying kiffin's on the hot seat. Are we are we not thinking Hugh Fries Hugh Fries is a sneaky dark horse. Oh yeah. But he shouldn't be. Yeah. Doubt of him from a burner though. So you probably couldn't track it Yeah, he's I think you freeze might be the horniest coach in football Yeah Yeah, yeah or link if it like he'd be a neighbor
Starting point is 00:40:53 I mean if you're an old miss fan you want you know, you want your head coach being like roll-tied roll No, you want a more interesting Ole Miss than you than young misses. Yeah. I mean it is offseason Want more interest in Ole Miss than young misses? Yeah, I mean it is offseason I'm putting on the hot. Okay. All right. I think it might be a He has a girlfriend as a I guess I don't know. I don't think I don't think I know I do friendly jab Yeah, yeah, I think he was trying to move in silence. Should we spot blown up? Should we should we? Next person to get the lottery ball has to DM Sidney Thomas. You say AWL question mark. Mm-hmm Okay, oh hey, can you just sign up you just do it I'll win the lottery ball. Okay, I mean it won't be memes
Starting point is 00:41:39 My cool throw is Langell ball. Mmm talks about it last week. I think he's my cool thrown and Then yesterday he signed a 13 million dollar contract with Def Jam and Universal Music. Good for him. Wow. Eight million dollars guaranteed, retains full ownership of his music and record label. No one has been more right than LaVar Ball. No. His sons became stars. Like they made millions and millions of dollars, two of them play in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Juanzo is on a hundred million dollar deal. LaMelo is on a two hundred million dollar deal. And Lee Angelo just signed a 13 million dollar rapper deal. And it's on a 200 million dollar deal and Liam's low just signed a 13 million dollar rapper and it's a good song. Yeah. Yeah. And he's got more. There was another, there was like, there was a, what's his name? Matthias. Yeah. He put out like a, uh, Instagram story after a win last week where they were playing a new song. Oh, yeah. Because the bulls get the, they get all the leaks. Yeah. Yeah. The Bulls and the Hornets probably have the swag is locker rooms because they get all the direct direct to the but it's like that is like the number one like our team just one like we're
Starting point is 00:42:35 putting on that that jello first. Good for him. Yeah, I'm happy. Yeah. Okay. Good job, Hank. Thanks. My hot seat is China. China. China's on the hot seat. Oh, because they're going to try to be on TikTok again. They're having that conversation right now. But good news, at least I guess if you're a fan of China, there's a new app that people are signing up for in the theory that TikTok is about to get banned in the United States. And it's called Red Red Note and Red Note is like more Chinese than TikTok. Okay. You're getting even more of your information than TikTok is. Okay. But it's not banned yet. Okay. So China just has an endless stream of spy apps that they're gonna be releasing every time one gets shut down there's another one to replace it. So I don't actually know what Red Note does but I've heard that it's like all the bad stuff about TikTok, but way worse. So TikTok is getting, I've obviously seen that this has been floating around, but why?
Starting point is 00:43:32 Just because China owns it? China kind of owns the company. If you're a company in China that's that big, the government, communist party owns. And they don't want, all right, that makes sense. They don't want us using that app because you're just stealing all of our information. It's in everybody's phone. Yeah. So then Americans reaction to this was just to download a more Chinese owned. Yeah, we're not the smartest. No. I think part of it was like, oh, if, if tick tocks great and it's a little bit Chinese, why don't I just get like a super Chinese app?
Starting point is 00:44:00 Who's going to buy tick tock? I saw Elon was maybe rumored. So the, the thing is it's like 50 billion. They want to sell it. The US government wants them to sell it to a company that has like controlling interest in the United States, or at the very least not in China. But the Chinese government does not want to sell that app to the United States because then we get the algorithm that they had. So it's like China would rather hang on to it and lose all the business in the US then sell to the US got it so Elon can offer a bunch of money for it but I don't think China's gonna sell it also Elon probably it would be stupid off money for it
Starting point is 00:44:36 because if people are not on tick-tock they have to go back to Instagram and Twitter also he wants doesn't need to buy a tick-tock he's already got X yeah the everything out yes it could be like a Facebook Instagram situation like Also, he doesn't need to buy a tick tock. He's already got X. Yeah. The everything app. Yes. It could be like a Facebook Instagram situation. Like it's true. He had Facebook and then bought it. But it's yeah. Yeah. I don't like Zuckerberg's new look bothers me. Yeah. Go back to the hoodie and the bad hair.
Starting point is 00:44:57 Are you intimidated because he's a man, an active man who participates in martial combat. Yeah. Instead of watching it. I am. It's it's lame to to to be a guy watching sports sports. I was shocked that a billionaire is going to change his political leanings, depending on who's on. Yeah, that's the wind blows. That's wild. Yeah, never saw that one come out. My cool throne is Russell Wilson. Oh, because Russell Wilson says that he is open to returning. He hopes to return to the Pittsburgh Steelers next year. Wow.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Maybe run it back. Wow. Your good friend Jersey Jerry was, he was sad last night online because it hit him for the first time. That might be the last time he gets to say, you just got rusty. You just got rusty. You got russied. But I don't think it is.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I think that he wants to come back and Pittsburgh, I don't know what their plan is going to be for quarterback. I don't know that they have a plan right now, but we might get to see Russell Wilson again. I would like to say that I'm open to winning the lottery. Yeah, same. Hank's open to going on a date with Sydney Thomas. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:45:53 That's, these are all things that we're open to. So Russ, good job. Do you think he DM'd the Steelers? Yeah. So you up? So, hey, yeah, I mean, is he going to remember when Sche she after was like, yeah Russell Wilson takes a team-friendly deals Like no, no. Yeah, it's not team-friendly when that's the only deal you could get. Yeah. He's the quarterback of the future Yeah, I don't think the Steelers should they gotta find something else
Starting point is 00:46:16 Yeah, I do something else just anything in a weird way that sucked for them that Sam Darnold sucked because I think those if you're a Steelers friend you were hoping the same Donald was awesome and then you could trade for J.J. McCarthy. Well then Kevin O'Connell was saying like if you look at the body of work with Sam Darnold, he's been a great quarterback, it depends on how big of a scope you're using on the body of work. Correct. Like what was the blip?
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah. Were these four games against those two teams, was that the blip? Or were the other what? 14 games this season? Was that the blip in Sam Donald's career? It's the Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones had that one year where everything worked out and they went to the playoffs and then they paid him for that year, not realizing that that was the anomaly year. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. My hot seat is anyone who doesn't understand this whole
Starting point is 00:47:05 4k thing on Twitter or X. Sorry. The everything app. I'm new to the word 4k. Could you imagine if you didn't understand what that is? Yeah, I understand exactly what it is. But I was talking to Max beforehand and Max didn't know what it was. Yeah. So Hank, do you want to tell Max what it is? That's tough for Max as Max Max has a video editing and production background. So if anyone's gonna understand it Yeah, it should be should be max. So max you probably understand better than anyone. It's essentially it's this is how I describe it Cuz you guys are old. No, remember? No, no, you remember When games were in SD and then you had that the SD option you could could switch to HD yeah and it was a little crispier yes so that's what they're saying they're basically saying hold and look at this image and it's gonna be clear in 4k is
Starting point is 00:47:53 it work kind it's I kind of I think but I also think there's a lot of accounts that are just hopping on the bandwagon because there's some I've seen that may have no difference I saw one that was like you can see every pebble on this road in 4k. But there's some images that just aren't like they don't have the 4k potential. It's 4k like magic eye if you stare at 4k for long enough like a giraffe pops out. No it's just it's just better resolution but like if I have a shitty picture of you it doesn't exist and I choose you know look at this in 4k it's just it's just better resolution But like if I have a shitty picture of you doesn't exist and I choose you know, look at this in 4k. It's still Gonna be whatever resolution and that I shot it in. Okay, so you can just lie and say yes That's what that's what a lot of people are doing. Okay, got it. Huh?
Starting point is 00:48:38 Okay, so it sounds like I had to get in on something. Yeah, it sounds like I got to say Like what the picture of the NFL football that I like to post just if you zoom in on this picture of the NFL football What do you actually say when you treat it other footballs you say hold for 4k? I think it's like me select select a view in 4k memes. What do you say? What do you say when you do it means you've done it tap comma hold and load in 4k hold and load in 4k yes okay I'm doing one live right now people can look back at okay so that was my hot seat that again I knew but it sounds like a lot of people didn't know so happy that we cleared it up for all the people didn't know my cool throne is Giante Porter because he actually wasn't
Starting point is 00:49:25 just telling his friends to bet his props and betting his own props but he was texting them during the game with updates of how the game was going and I don't know I know this would probably be opposite it would probably be more hot seat because it's like the most open and shut case of all time but I just think it's funny because they have the text messages and here's one from a game in January 2024. He said I went back to locker room to get eye checked on. I don't know if I'm going to play much more. I'm not starting second half, but if it's garbage time, I will shoot a million shots. I love that one. If I, if it's garbage time, I will shoot a million shots. I love that one. If I, if it's garbage time, I will
Starting point is 00:50:05 shoot a million shots. John T Porter and like everyone who plays pick up hoops and their team goes down and they're just like, fuck it. Let's just start chucking. Wait, so I'm confused. Was he telling his friends to bet the under? He's like, I'm not going back in, but if I do get back in, I'm going to shoot a lot. Yeah. It's kind of confusing because, yeah, that's actually a point in his favor. Yeah, true. Be like, I gave him, I gave him both sides the information there Maybe it was just his like psychologist and he was texting him like hey, here's where my mind's at right now If it's garbage time, I'll shoot a million shots. Yeah, love that. Okay, uh, let's get to our interviews. We got Booger McFarland
Starting point is 00:50:37 we've got Dana White and we also have another Commercial from Doritos. So we said it a few minutes ago but Doritos is revealing the top three ads that are still in the running to win the Doritos Crash the Super Bowl contest. Now it's up to the people to choose which creator will win 1 million and have their submission run as Doritos 25th Super Bowl ad by voting for their favorite fan made ad at doritoscrash.com. Now until January 28th fans can visit DoritosCrash.com and cast their vote for who they think is the winning ad.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Will it be Abduction, Barbershop or Charades? We're going to watch Barbershop right now. So let's see it Max. I mean what can I say? I'm a bit of Casanova myself. You know the thing is, I feel guided. And you won't believe it. I had the hair. And boy, did I have hair. I was like the Black Farmer. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Man, what? That was awesome. I thought he was going to bite it off. Yeah, that was a great ad. So you could vote Abduction Barbershop or Charades, which we'll watch in a minute. Vote now for the next Super Bowl ad at DoritosCrash.com. Here is Booger McFarland. Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very good friend. It is Booger McFarland. Okay, we now welcome on our very, very, very good friend. It is Booger McFarland.
Starting point is 00:52:09 We're going to talk some football. We're going to talk some NFL. We're going to talk college football, national championship. Boog, thank you for joining us. I want to start with the best game out there left. And maybe we'll talk a little recap of the weekend, but Bill's Ravens. This is why we watch sports book. We had a whole rant about it on Monday. This is why we lift them weights. This is why we eat the donuts. This is why we do everything.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Bill's Ravens. What do you see in this game? And I mean, like you take it wherever direction you want because I'm so excited to watch this game. Well, a couple I mean, like you take it whichever direction you want because I'm so excited to watch this game. Well, a couple of things. I highly doubt anyone playing in this game is going to eat donuts. That's number one. But I like how you try to get people on your side though. Yeah. Second. Yeah, man. Like the first thing I go back to is when they met in week four and first play of the game, Derek Henry goes 87 yards. So this game, my initial thought comes down to whether or not Buffalo can stop the Baltimore running game.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I mean, they rushed over 200 yards that game. And if you not to get into weeds too much, but Buffalo's defense likes to play nickel defense. That means two linebackers and a nickel bat and Johnson number seven is that nickel bat. Well, what does that mean? That means that nickel back who's 190 pounds has got to be the one to fill in those run gaps and tackle Derek Henry. How many times would PFT be willing to tackle me? Like ultimately
Starting point is 00:53:34 that's what it comes down to because Johnson has got to tackle Derek Henry probably six or seven times during the game and I just don't know if he can do that. So I want to see what is Buffalo's adjustment gonna be Because they can't allow Johnson to tackle Derek Henry over and over on the flip side Josh Allen is playing at an all-time high level if you're Baltimore. How do you affect Josh Allen? We saw Denver try to get after me rushing a little bit. They couldn't do it So how do you affect Josh Allen that way? He can't get everyone. He can't get Shakira involved He can't get Kincaid involved. He can't get a Mario Cooper involved
Starting point is 00:54:08 So those are the first initial two thoughts I have on the game. Yeah, I could tackle you I would simply want it more That's the key is you just have to want it more than the other guy You can want it as much if you want to buddy Yeah, 285 and if I'm running that you you can want it all all you want. You ain't stopping me, buddy. Yeah, I would backpack you. I would just here's my strategy with Derek Henry, I would kind of do the Olay and let him get right by me and then jump on his shoulders. And then he'd have to carry me
Starting point is 00:54:33 like a backpack and hopefully slow him down for somebody else somebody bigger to come in and just take care of business. Yeah, I still don't know if that's gonna work, buddy, because I will carry you. How much do you weigh by the way, because you look like you're like really skinny fat. So, so, I mean, what are you like? One 95 to run? So that's a little personal burger. Uh, no, I, I'm clocking in about one 75. I've been swimming a lot recently. One 75, one 75. That's a bad looking 75, man. Oh, I was going to go the other way. I was going to say, you
Starting point is 00:55:01 know what they call a man under 200 pounds. What's that? A woman. Listen, I've been, I've been in better shape in my life. That's, that's a fair thing to say, but I I'm confident that I could tackle you if you gave me enough time. Okay. All right. Yeah. I mean, a hundred yards got it. Hopefully a hundred yards is enough time. Yeah. Also they took away the best strategy that the bills had, which was you could always just grab Derek Henry by his hair. Yeah And he doesn't anymore. That's a good point. Yeah. Yeah, I'm excited about this game, too We were saying on on Monday that ironically the weakness and in the Ravens might be their kicking game Based on how Justin Tucker's been recently
Starting point is 00:55:40 He seems to have straightened it out a little bit and he's better than he was has been recently. He seems to have straightened it out a little bit and he's better than he was. But yet to me this Ravens team seems like they're as good of a team as they've had in this entire run with Lamar. Yeah, I think I would agree to that. And how about that? A Hall of Fame kicker and Justin Tucker, to your point could be a weak link. And we know he's got the leg like he's done it for years. We know it's in there. Do you think it's just mental? Like, how can a guy who's a Hall of Fame player who's done it for years. We know it's in there. Do you think it's just mental? Like, how can a guy who's a Hall of Fame player who's done something at the highest level, like get a mental block where he can't do it in front of people
Starting point is 00:56:12 all of a sudden? Have you ever thought about that? That's, that's the kicker thing, man. Kickers are weird. They usually, you know, they usually have like the physical ability to do their job well into their 40s. But at some point, you get, you know, you're you lose just a tiny bit of strength and then that affects your mind and in your mind that you try to overcompensate for anything weak that you're doing. I think John Hawthorne's got to trust him, no. So if this game comes down to a money kick, it's, you know, end of half, end of game, 57 yarder where you knew Justin Tucker was money. You know the announcer is going to bring
Starting point is 00:56:47 it up. You know, Jim Nance and Tony Romo, you know, Tony's going to bring it up and, and we're going to have a conversation. There may even be a timeout call to build attention. I would just love to know what will be going through the mind of Tucker at that point, if it happens. And also what would go through the mind of his teammates, because you can't just erase history of this past season where he struggled. I mean, he struggled a lot throughout this season, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It has. It's in that. It always feels like if you have that kicker situation going into the playoffs, like we're just waiting for the other shoe to drop or waiting for that moment to happen. Um, I want to give you some credit book cause
Starting point is 00:57:21 you, we watched the, uh, Rams versus Vikings on Monday night. The Rams were incredible. Saxon Donald nine times. Sam Dahl did hold on to the ball a little too much but you pulled up your own receipt which I love this move. People should do this more often when they're right. You said in November you said if I could have any defense in the NFL for the next three years not Not sure I wouldn't take the Rams. That front seven is young and nasty. Imagine going from 80 to what they have now. Great job. Less need. They are young and nasty. They are incredible. They showed it on Monday night. Now we have that of a defensive line going against the best offensive line or the maybe the, you
Starting point is 00:57:59 know, them or the lions with the Eagles. How's that going to play out? And again, credit to you for a great take. Well, I appreciate it. It's going to be a heavyweight fight, man. And if you think about this, we often, you know, everybody loves to use these cliches. The green Bay Packers are the youngest team in the league. Okay. I get it. They've been the youngest team the last two years. How about this one? The Rams defense. And I think Troy used this last night. It's the cheapest defense in football because they got all those, all those first and second year players. It's the cheapest defense in football because they got all those first and second year players. It's the cheapest defense in football, one of the most talented defenses in football.
Starting point is 00:58:30 And if they have any shot of upsetting Philadelphia Eagles, those young players have to go out and play as if they don't know any better. Because on paper and in Vegas, everybody would tell you that it's going to be a mismatch. That offensive line, Saquon Barkley, just think about what happened a month or so ago when these two teams played each other. But it's something about when you face a team a second time. I remember when we played the Philadelphia Eagles and we couldn't get over at hump and we kept going against them.
Starting point is 00:58:58 The ability to know what you were going to deal with. And when you went into the game, you didn't have to feel anybody out. You knew what it was going to be. I think the Rams are going to get the benefit of the dad because they know what it's like to see Makai Vecton. Like the dude six, seven, three, 50. Like you could put you two together and that's Makai Vecton, Lane Johnson, um, uh, Landon Dickerson, Cam Juergens, Malata. Like those dudes are gigantic. I think the smallest one outside of the center is like 6'6 and 3'25. And so you have to know what that feels like to go against it.
Starting point is 00:59:31 That way when you go into the game, you understand how to attack it. I think the Rams are going to do that. The key to this game will be, and it sounds crazy, I don't know what the weather is going to be like, but I guarantee it's going to be cold. How does a team from Southern California who's got young guys deal with the cold weather? As somebody who's been in this league and been a young guy, it's difficult to deal with if you haven't had to do it a lot. The first time I played in cold weather, I'll never forget it. We were in Chicago and here I am, I'm a rookie. I'm about
Starting point is 01:00:02 to put on every layer that the equipment manager's giving me. And Hardick Nicholson looks at me and says, Hey, no, no, no, no, we don't do that on defense. I'm like, what do you mean? It's like 10 degrees outside. He said, no, we don't do that. He's like, on defense, we tough it out. We got to tough it out. So of course I wanted to fit in. I didn't put anything on. And when that wind came through that tunnel in Chicago, it felt like it went right through the crack of my behind and out of my nose. It's the coldest I've ever been in my life. I promise you, I've never been colder in my life. And all I thought about was when this game was
Starting point is 01:00:31 going to be over and how could I get back to the locker room? And so the next few times that I played in the cold weather, I prepare for it. I used to use this stuff called Tiger bomb and Vaseline, drink a shot of whiskey before the game, little chicken broth. And so my body and my skin was ready to play. That's a real thing. I hope this Rams team is ready to deal with the elements because that will give them a heads up and playing in this game. What's the worst play that you like, is it tackling someone else is getting blocked? What's the worst feeling in the cold being under the pile all of it all of it? Pre-game warm-up is kind of the worst because you got to get your body loose and warm and
Starting point is 01:01:13 Once you get loose and warm and no lie small shot of whiskey I mean, yeah, we don't need anything hard like you like good. I mean we don't need anything Just like a small shot of you know a little Tennessee something something light We don't need anything. Just like a small shot of, you know, a little Tennessee something, something light just to kind of get the throat nice and warm, put the Tiger Balm on, get ready to go, get lubed up a little bit. And here's the last thing. You got to put the full body onesie on, the ski suit, cut the toes out. All right. Make sure that the shoes are nice and dry. And once you get warm, the key is to stay warm. Like the worst thing you ever want to do is get warm and then cool off because then you freeze.
Starting point is 01:01:48 All that perspiration freezes up and you'll be cold as hell. Yeah. Yeah. I love the idea of you stepping into Chicago and just getting spit roasted by the wind, just like from your ass to your nose. I can't stand this. Did you ever see like an offensive lineman and they're not wearing sleeves in the cold and did that make you intimidated? Did you ever see like an offensive lineman and they're not wearing sleeves in the cold?
Starting point is 01:02:05 And did that make you intimidated? First of all, I think it's a code that the offensive lineman can't wear sleeves. They all didn't have any sleeves on. I didn't feel intimidated. I just thought they was crazy. Listen, at a certain point, I don't care how tough you are, mentally tough, if it's zero degrees, everybody's cold. You're not going to tell me at zero, man, I'm not cold.
Starting point is 01:02:25 That's a lot. Everybody's cold. Now, are you going to play with it? Sure, you can play with it, but everybody's cold at zero degrees. Coldest game I ever played was Green Bay. It was zero degrees, winch here was minus 15, and the sun was out. Coincidentally, it was one of the best games I ever had because I knew how to dress, the tiger bomb on my skin. I felt good and the sun was out so the sun being out at least made me feel better. Yeah yeah. I'm gonna get the weather it's gonna be high of 38 on Sunday in Philly. What time's again. So it's like two three o'clock three o'clock. It's a three o'clock game. It's probably gonna be like mid 30s possibly raining. So
Starting point is 01:03:05 I guess it could be worse. Yeah it could be. Are you worried bug about Jalen hurts at all. I mean he's he's he looks rusty. He did not have the best game that offense. I don't know what it is. The Eagles offense like it's just it's not sluggish because they obviously have like incredible skill position on the outside and say Kwan had 2000 yards. It's almost just like, like they move at a pace. It's like, I don't, I don't get it. I just watch it and I'm like, I'm like, you guys should be going faster and you should have more plays that are explosive downfield with all the guys you have. So everybody says the same thing, but they beat around the bush. So let's just lay this out. Yeah. Let's look at the Eagles offense.
Starting point is 01:03:49 AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, Dallas Goddard, they got weapons. Carcaterra, offensive line I think we would say is one of the best offensive lines in football right? Yep. Saquon Barkley's been the best backing football this year right? Yep. So what's the last piece? Fullback. Yeah, fullback. Nobody plays with a fullback anymore. Last piece is the quarterback. But for whatever reason, he hasn't been bad, but he hasn't been great.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Right. So it kind of leaves you asking that question, what's wrong with the Eagles offense? The answer is right in front of us guys. The the differences of the quarterback and how that reverberates throughout the the offense is the issue because regardless of what's being said, when the quarterback is off, everybody's affected. The receivers are affected. The offensive line is affected. And to me, Saquon Barkley has been the common force on this team because he was an
Starting point is 01:04:45 outside guy that came in and Saquon Barkley is a team guy. He's a guy that tries to galvanize everybody and get everybody together. And so I honestly think he's the guy that's holding this thing together because as we saw throughout the season, receivers looking at the quarterback sideways, quarterbacks look at the receiver sideways and everybody come out, came out and said the right thing. But to your point, care you just you just asked the question right. And everybody continues to ask right. What's going on with the offense. It's it's I like Jalen hurts is not bad but he also is not like great. It's such a like confounding issue because I like him a lot of times and he's objectively not a bad quarterback but
Starting point is 01:05:26 I think it's it's what you're saying like everything else is there and you look at some of the guys that are still playing and the way they elevate their game in the playoffs and Jalen hurts has done that he played phenomenal in the Super Bowl so it's like get back to that Jalen hurts and get to that level. No question we've seen him do it he was the best player on the field in that Super Bowl against special mom no doubt about it. I will try to describe it this way and make a comparison that I think everybody in America can understand. It's like having a hamburger with no cheese on it and no condiments. Like it's a burger. Everybody loves burgers,
Starting point is 01:06:02 but is the burger really that good without the condiments? Like it's okay, but everybody has their specific condiments in which they want to put on it. I'm a cheese, bacon, mayo, every nine and a hard fried egg guy. I don't know what you guys are, but unless you're five years old, nobody really eats a plain burger. We all need something on it. I'm thinking about the cheese the whole time. Exactly. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I was gonna say something on it. Yeah, I think about the cheese the whole time. Yeah, exactly
Starting point is 01:06:25 I eat plain burgers just because my son you're he's five So then I just clean up his I you know, I eat the burger that he doesn't eat So but yeah, it's terrible every single time. I'm like this sucks But but but if I said hey, let's go get some burgers. You'd be like, let's go like I'm all in Yeah, but if I don't get everything that comes with the burger Yeah, but if I don't get everything that comes with the burger, it's not really that good of a Yeah, I like that. Yeah, I think that's Jalen Hurts Jalen Hurts is like the burger, but we just continue to wait when we're gonna get the toppings When are we gonna get everything that goes with it?
Starting point is 01:06:54 We've had it before We had it in the Super Bowl where he was outstanding and it was like the greatest in-and-out burger double double animal style with cheese The whole nine and we just want to get that again. And we haven't quite gotten it. We know we've been dealing with fat burger. We've been dealing with chilies, old timer with cheese. Like we've been dealing with a lot of things, but we haven't got the in and out double, double animal style since the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Yeah. He's never given us a taste of it because now that's all I think about. Yeah. Max, I'm curious to know what you think. Our producer is a big Eagles fan. He's also a big fan of burgers. So I'm curious to hear what his thoughts are on this analogy. I Would say he's a little bit better than a plain burger, but you know, that's me I could I could be biased Yeah, so
Starting point is 01:07:40 So he's like a burger with like pickles only. Now, I'll give him a slice of cheese and no sauce. Okay. Just alright. That's yeah. That's fair. Yeah. Okay. I got it. A turkey burger. Maybe he's a turkey burger with cheese. No, turkey burgers are
Starting point is 01:07:57 good. You can dress up a turkey burger pretty good. You can. Yeah. Turkey burger. Pretty good. Seriously. They're the worst. What what does uh what what do the Rams offense have to do to win this game? Because Matt Stafford, he didn't look good for the last month, month and a half of the regular season, but he looked pretty good on Monday football. He was slinging it like like, oh, yeah. So what do they have to do? Well, I wonder what the health of Tyler Higby
Starting point is 01:08:21 is going to be like, because he went out in that game with an abdominal strain or something happened, a shoulder. I can't remember what it was, but he didn't come back. And while he was in the game, he had got five or six catches. So that's going to be key. Second of all, they need to be able to run the football. And like, you know, Jaylen Carter and Chris Jones are probably the two best defensive tacklers in football. No disrespect to Jeffrey Simmons down in Tennessee, but Jaylen Carter is playing at an unbelievable level for
Starting point is 01:08:46 Philadelphia and Nolan Smith, who a lot of people thought was a bust, he's coming on. So you got to be able to neutralize those two guys. You got to run the football at them with Williams, man. And I think the Rams offensive line is going to be key. Then it comes down. Like when you get in big games, man, like your stars got to be stars. It's got to be Stafford to Cooper Cup, Stafford to Pooka Nakua, Stafford to Robinson. Like Matthew Stafford has to
Starting point is 01:09:10 remind us of the Matthew Stafford that was with Calvin Johnson. Like he's got to come out and sling that thing. It can't be anything else. Like he's got to throw for 300 yards. Pooka Nakua has got to have a vintage day. Cooper Cup has got to remind us when everybody was like, man, who's that white boy? That's Cooper Cupp. Like he's got to have one of those days. And so I think if they do that and they can run the football and this defense plays at that super high level, the Rams can take this game into the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 01:09:37 And when you're the underdog, that's really all you want. You want, when you come out of that last break and it's six minutes left for it to be a one score game either way And that's all you can ask for on the road in the elements. I think the Rams can do that, but we'll see yeah I'm excited. We might get a white Cooper verse white Cooper matchup the gene Yeah, yeah I'm taking white Cooper. Yeah, I'm taking okay. This is for white people. I'll be honest That's we we've been taking a lot of L's recently. That's a big dub for the white race. By the way, I'm going
Starting point is 01:10:08 to check your NFL facts right now. Cooper de Jean, white DB. Yep. Before, before Cooper de Jean, who was the last prominent white cornerback? Jason T horn. There you go. I'm just checking to see. Come on. It's not a long list. Yeah, it's not a long list. All right. So, Book, I have a question about the Chiefs. You were obviously in this spot as a player. You were on teams that had the bye week. How much better do you feel after a bye week? Is it significant? Can you notice the difference in practice? And we do the rest versus rust thing. Is that just all bullshit? I would rather have the rest, especially if your bi-week was early to middle part of the season.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And like the physical part, like you're not going to make, you're not going to go from like three to 10 physically. You might go from three to like seven. But more importantly, mentally, I think a week break mentally where you don't have to get your mental levels, your competitive juices flowing. You can take a mental break where you actually, instead of dreading to play or trying to figure out how to play, you're chomping at the bit to play. And that's a big difference. That's why you see the teams that have a bi-week often come out in that first five minutes, that first quarter, they are flying around because it's mental. You're ready to compete.
Starting point is 01:11:32 You're ready to get out there. You haven't competed in a while because we're creatures of habit. And when you've done something from July until January, and then you take a week off, like your body is still in that competitive mode, even though you've had a week off, so you're ready to get out. It's kind of like you, but watch this. You guys do a podcast every week or whatever. If you take a week off, you're like, man, I can't wait to get back on. I got so much to say. I'm ready. It's the same thing with football. And I think mentally the chiefs are going to get a break. I think the chiefs also are going to be really
Starting point is 01:12:01 healthy. It'll be the healthiest they've been. I think if you're the Texans, man, like you really got to be careful the first, first quarter of that game. And like, you can't come out of the first quarter down 14 nothing, because they're going to try to come out and make a statement and let everyone know that it's the Chiefs invitational still. But yeah, I would rather be mentally and physically rested and have a, a tad bit of rust than to continue playing and have your body banged up and beat up. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:30 In a way though, I also feel like getting to play and play well last weekend is a very, very good thing for the Houston Texans because they haven't looked that good this season. They haven't been blowing people out, but their defense looks so good last week and they were heating the quarterback up put them under pressure all day are they going to be able to do that to Patrick Mahomes are they going to be able to get to his face and make some awkward throws so I don't really have to even watch this game if I can look at the stat sheet and without like took a blind look at the stat sheet and I saw Will Anderson jr. threeacks, four pressures. I saw Daniel
Starting point is 01:13:05 Hunter two sacks, seven pressures. I'm like, this is a game in the fourth quarter. Because if those two defensive ends can put up a stat line like that, where they sack my homes four or five times, it's nine or 10 pressures. Yeah, that game is going to be a tight game because that means they're going to affect the quarterback and they're going to affect the chief's offense. Like the biggest weakness, I think everyone knows it's the, it's the chief's tackles. Like they've had to move Joe Tooney out there. They've, they've, they've tried to draft a guy.
Starting point is 01:13:30 It doesn't matter. Those tackles have been bad. Um, I know it, you know, you know, who else knows it? Andy Reed. So he's going to try to game plan around that. And so the Houston Texans defense and D'Amico Ryan's have got to figure out a way to affect the quarterback. You know, if, if you affect Patrick Mahomes, then you affect the entire team because he's the
Starting point is 01:13:50 thing that makes that go. Offensively, the Texas offensive line, man, like I'm not sure what happened to Laramie Tunsil. I'm not sure what's going on with Titus, with Howard. Like these guys haven't been playing well. They got a lot of money invested in that offensive line and they haven't played well. And for the first time in over a year, I thought CJ Shroud looked like the CJ Shroud we saw when Ohio State took on George.
Starting point is 01:14:15 He was running around making plays. He was making throws. Like I haven't seen that guy because we all watched that sugar bowl and you were like, I didn't know he could have second reaction plays. I didn't know he could do that. I think he won America over that night. And then all of a sudden his rookie year was great. And then this year has kind of been like I haven't seen that guy since his rookie year. If he can play like that, man, for sure, this can be a game. I don't know if I expect it to be close, but I think the Texans can hang in there for a little while.
Starting point is 01:14:42 It's a good point about the, about CJ shroudambling because he did it did feel like he did that more and was effective with his legs On Saturday against the Chargers you brought up something Andy Reid game planning and this might be a dumb question But do you have a story or remember a specific game where your game plan was so elite that you knew almost instantly You're like, this is, that like we're, this is going to be the easiest day ever. Like we, we know they're, I mean, I guess the super bowl, the first one you won, but is there another time where you're like, our coach is just the way they got us ready for this game?
Starting point is 01:15:16 There's no way we're losing today. Yeah. I remember in Indianapolis where we're playing Cincinnati Bengals. It's a Monday night and it wasn't the game plan. It was after the first series. So if you remember when Carson Palmer was there and Ocho Cinco and like all those guys during the Cincinnati Hay Day, they went no huddle. They went up tempo. And when you go up tempo, I tell people all the time, when you go up tempo,
Starting point is 01:15:42 like the offense can't be super complicated because those guys aren't rocket science We're on rocket science like it's got to be a code that everybody's going about and so after the first series we figured out when Carson Palmer will come to the line of scrimmage and say 922 Las Vegas 922 Las Vegas well Las Vegas is a West Coast city. It was a it was a run to the left Hmm if he came up and said, whatever, 644, 644, let's go Jacksonville, Jacksonville, check that, check that, New York East, New York East, it was a run to the right. And so we were able to decipher their game plan running the football within the first series of the game. And so they didn't really have
Starting point is 01:16:22 a ton of yards rushing that game. So it's one of those things where like the game plan can be cool, but everybody makes little subtle adjustments. Yeah. And so it was a cool game plan where Palmer is kind of, you know, doing this thing and we were able kind of to decipher their code that night. That's got to be the best feeling in the world. To just be like, Hey guys, we know this. And now like every single time he says it, we're just going to stop it. Well, what you, what you have to do is you have to kind of be like a kid in the candy. So like you can't ever, you can't let everyone know that you know when Santa's coming. Like you kind of got to like, Oh man, man, that's, this is tough. Like you really know what's
Starting point is 01:16:57 coming. Yeah. So you, you played five seasons for John Gruden in Tampa, right? Yes. Our colleague John Gruden. You have any good John Gruden stories from the locker room? I got so many, man. First of all, I'll start it with this. John and I started out on a good relationship, then we hit a rocky patch, and I think we're good now.
Starting point is 01:17:19 But there was a period of time where I was probably his least favorite player of all time. Really? Oh, just, you got to understand. Gruden is an offensive guy and there's nothing more he loved than another offensive player. Like if you name him, he loved it. Defensive guys were just a tool to get him the ball back, especially down in Tampa. You know, one of the best Gruden stories ever. Let's see. We've all seen the clip of Chris Sims, like Chris Sims and John
Starting point is 01:17:48 Gruden and Chris Sims is trying to call the play and Gruden is looking at him like, I just told you to play. Can you really say, can you not say the play? And he's, I mean, he is dog cussing him and MFing him. We're standing there on defense like this poor kid, man. And just to see him, just to see how he did and dealt with young players was the most amazing thing, dude. And he would do it every single year. He didn't like young players because he wanted veteran guys that knew how to practice, that knew how to work, that knew that he didn't have to babysit. And so anytime a young guy came in, John Gruden was always, he was always a treat to watch.
Starting point is 01:18:29 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So there's another game out there this weekend. The commanders, my beloved commanders have to go up to Detroit and play against the Detroit Lions. I haven't released my keys to the game. I'm breaking down film all week. I don't want to release keys to the game too early
Starting point is 01:18:44 because I know that Jared listens to the podcast and I don't want to keys to the game. I'm breaking down film all week. I don't want to release keys to the game too early because I know that Jared listens to the podcast and I don't want to give him any inside information. So I'm saving that for Friday. But what would your keys to the game be for how the commanders could possibly have a chance to be what looks like on paper to be a pretty significant mismatch? Well, JD Daniels has to be special and their defense is going to have to create some
Starting point is 01:19:05 turnovers. Like we've seen Jared Goff turn the football over a little bit before, so they got to get turnovers. And I think before we even get to the X's and O's on the field, they got to withstand that building. I played in that at four field, that place is going to be at a fever pitch. They're the number one seed. If they win two games, they get to the Super Bowl. Both of those games are going to be at home. They've earned the right for the road to the Super Bowl to come through Detroit. And so you got to withstand, the road team, there's a reason only one road team won this week and that was your commanders.
Starting point is 01:19:37 Now can they do it again? It's going to be a different building. Tampa was loud, Tampa was boisterous. Ford Field is going to be totally different. So they got to withstand that. And then Jaden Daniels is going to have to make, we all know he can make those plays with his legs. He's got to rush for over a hundred yards and then he's going to have to hit some chunk plays down the field of Terry McClarn. The good thing about everything I just said, it's all doable. Okay. It's all very doable because
Starting point is 01:20:02 this Detroit defense is banged up, it's beat up. Like I think they're they're gonna be without Their starting day 11. They're gonna be without six of those guys five or six One of their corners Terry on Arnold He's a rookie. He's learning. He's gonna be good, but he's very handsy right now. If you're Terry McLaurin I think you got it anytime. There's a matchup of Terry on Arnold versus Terry McClarn and you're Jay Daniels, let it go. Now, now I think you're going to have to watch for the safety, Kirby Joseph in the middle of the field.
Starting point is 01:20:32 He's an all pro player. He's got eight or nine interception. You got to watch for him. But I think if you're Washington and you watch film, this is not the Detroit Lions team that we thought they were going to be defensively at the beginning of the season, they are vulnerable. But in order to make them vulnerable thought they were going to be defensively at the beginning of the season. They are vulnerable, but in order to make them vulnerable, you're going to have to withstand the building.
Starting point is 01:20:50 You're going to have to get some turnover, some Jerry golf, and you're going to have to get your quarterback to play to where we think he's going to be in two or three years. Like in two or three years, I think Jane Daniels is in the conversation with Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow. He's not there yet, but he's got to give you a glimpse of him being there in order for them to win this game. Do you believe at all? I mean, Alex Anzaloni coming back for the Lions, week 18, they have an incredible game plan for the Vikings. He's got the green dot on. Is that, is that like
Starting point is 01:21:25 overstated his return or is it something that really like getting everyone in the right place can mean that much and being in the right place that lions defense can maybe cover up all the injuries they have. Oh, like getting everybody back in their role, dude is like a major key. Like imagine if your wife goes out of town and she leaves the kids with you big guy and And then all of a sudden, Happening this weekend to me. It's happening. Listen, the wife goes out of town, you got the kids and maybe you got a nanny that comes over and helps out, but it's just not the same when the wife is there. Like if things
Starting point is 01:21:57 don't feel the same, it's not the same. You don't feel the same. Things might be getting done, but it's not the same. It's very similar, dude. It's the same thing. So when it's alone, he comes back, things feel normal. He's the green dot. He calls the defense. You feel reassured that if you take a nap and fall asleep, that the kids aren't going to just jump out the windows. Right? It's like when when it has a lonely there, he's going to get everybody in their proper position. So it definitely makes a difference. Yeah. My, my kids, I, my wife is out of town on Saturday, Friday and Saturday this weekend and not my kids get ready to eat cereal for breakfast, lunch, and then Mac and cheese for dinner that we're doing that. That's the whole menu. That's the entire menu weekend.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah. That's the whole menu. It's cereal and Mac and cheese. You choose. You can have, you can want cereal for dinner, Mac and cheese for breakfast. I don't care, but those are the only two things on the menu. We don't like door dash Uber eats or like bring something. You know what I'm trying to watch my weight. I'm trying to be better. I'm about to turn 40 book. The problem that I have is that when I order for when I order dinner for my family in my head I treat my five three and one year old as full grown adults. So I'm like, all right, my three year old show have a, you know, a Kung Pao chicken, my one year old, he'll have, you know, the general SOS and the side of fried rice and they don't eat
Starting point is 01:23:14 anything. I mean, they're kids, they eat like three bites of something and that's it. So then I ended up with so much food and I just get fatter. So that's why that's tough for me when I try to order for the whole family. I've got two things out of that. Number one, when the 40th birthday party is planned, I need an invitation, whatever, whatever we're doing for PFTR both turning 40 at the end of January, we'll do something in New Orleans for the Super Bowl week. Yeah. Just let me know when I will definitely be there. That's number one. Number two. I mean, if you're going to order for the kids, like stop ordering like they're grown. Like this, I can't help myself. I'm like, Oh my God, tell them to seem like a party for you. You can just get 50 nuggets.
Starting point is 01:23:52 Let them all share. Yeah. No, I, when we go to Chick-fil-a, I'm like, all right, you guys, like I look back and I'm like to my one-year-old like, all right, you're good for 20 nuggets. They're good for three. And then I eat the other 17. That's my problem. There's nothing wrong with that sometimes,. Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. They look at you like you're over providing for them too. That's a good dad move. Yeah. Yeah. They're never going to worry about their next meal. That's good. That's a positive. Yeah. And I'm just going to eat all of it. Uh, book. I did want to talk about college
Starting point is 01:24:17 football real quick. Monday or Monday night we have the national championship, Ohio state, Notre Dame, Ohio states, the better team. We're going to be honest. Ohio State's a better team talent wise. Give us the case for Notre Dame because I like I love what Marcus Freeman has done. I think they are a such a tough team and I think that there's something in there with Notre Dame that they can hang around in this game and maybe have some you know one of those college football plays late where where they're able to win this game. I think there's something there. Like this team has been super resilient all year. I think if they're starting 22, they're going to be down like eight or nine guys. When this
Starting point is 01:24:54 game starts, uh, Marcus Freeman has built an unbelievable program, the resiliency, the mental toughness. With that being said, when you step on the football field, like you got to make plays like Jeremiah love has got to, he's got to have a day. To Darian Price, that they're going to have to run the football. Like anytime you're the underdog, you want to shorten the game a little bit. Riley and Ben, we say this every time. Like he's going to have to make a play down the field throwing the football. He's got to hit a big play. And then their defense, which I think is Marcus Freeman's specialty, is going to have to be out of this mind because
Starting point is 01:25:25 Chip Kelly, the offensive coordinator, Ryan Day. I think number one, they're going to try to get Jeremiah Smith going because he had one catch for three yards last time. And I don't know if you want to go into an off season where he isn't a huge part of the game. So I think Jeremiah Smith is going to be targeted early and often. I think when you look at Trevionon Henderson, you look at Quincey on Jenkins, it's so many of those guys that I think are going
Starting point is 01:25:51 to be unbelievable for for Notre Dame to deal with. So yeah, to me, if Notre Dame plays at their best, they play at their best, this is still a two score game. Oh, and I think, yeah, even if they play it there, because there's such a disparity, I think when it comes to talent, where we are now. Now, if this was the original Notre Dame starting 22, I think this would be a one score game
Starting point is 01:26:16 and maybe come down to the fourth quarter where you're like, okay, Notre Dame, I can see a path for them winning. It's tough for me to see that now with the current Notre Dame team based on the injuries and based on everything they got. And I think the wild card is this, if you're a Notre Dame fan, I think you got to go and say a prayer for back to Will Howard at Kansas State against the University of Kansas where sometimes he just didn't realize he was a good quarterback. And maybe he has a bad day.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Other than that, I think this is going to be a comfortable Ohio State win. May not start out that way, but I think eventually it'll be a comfortable win for them. Okay. Notre Dame has the ultimate 12th man, the Lord. Just call on him. But I mean, why even play the game? Surely Ohio State would never lose a game to a team. They should be by two scores. Yeah, of course. I mean, we just started a month ago, right? Yeah. I mean, I, uh, but notice, notice how Michigan won the game. Turnovers. Will Howard threw, I know he threw one pick, maybe two. They ran the football. They controlled the line of scrimmage. They shortened the game.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Jeremiah Smith did everything that I just talked about. Run the ball, shortened the game. Jeremiah Smith didn't get off. Will Howard playing like not Will Howard. That's what they got to get. You got to ask yourself, can we repeat what Michigan did? Mm hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Um, booger, your big, uh, sec guy, would you like to apologize for the sec in these playoffs? Cause all I heard going into the playoffs, there should be three more sec teams. You could make the case that half the sec should get in there. The best conference in the country. Now we don't have any sec. You barely had any in the semi finals. If you can can call Texas and ICC team. I feel like you should apologize for on behalf of the conference. Yeah. I mean, listen, I'm not going to apologize for a conference
Starting point is 01:28:16 as dominated college football. You know, what I will say is this, is that I think the years and the ages where the SEC and to a certain extent, the ACC with Clemson dominate college football is over with. And you look no further than the transfer portal in NIL because no longer can these teams in the South stack their rosters because I'm not going to wait two years to play when I can go to Penn State or Oregon or Michigan and I can play right now. I can play right now and I, and they'll play me 250 grand. So like, that's just never, ever going to, and, and think about this,
Starting point is 01:28:52 think about this, look no further than the number one recruit in America this year, Bryce Underwood, Bryce Underwood was committed to LSU for 10 months and to very end here comes, um, Ellison, here comes Portnoy, here comes Brady and all this money comes in and now he goes to Michigan. Five years ago, that doesn't happen. Yeah. But now it happened. So I think we've, we've, we've just reached a point where, uh, there's going to be a lot more parody in college football. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. You're probably right. Um, all right. So book. I have one last question. Row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code
Starting point is 01:29:35 take my last question for you. By the way. What do you got? What I have on right now baby row back joggers. Oh let's go. All right. Yeah. You know what my last question is what are you doing in the gym these days? You said you just had come from the gym. So what's the routine? I, we have a new gym in our office. So I have to, I'm trying to get back in a new routine. I've been busy, but like once football ends, I want to get into a new routine. So, you know, once you've reached the age of 40, um, I think, I think what you need to do in the gym is lift a lot less weight. So everybody knows I'm a big Peloton guy.
Starting point is 01:30:08 I'm almost at like 1500 rise for my career. But I wanted to get back into the gym and just kind of start to tone up a little bit. And so what I do in the gym is a lot of body weight stuff. So squatting, one single leg functional movements. So single leg bodyweight squats Put your put your body in a position and you can do it just using your body weight single leg RDLs like the heaviest the heaviest dumbbell I pick up is 40 pounds and It's it's a lot of supersets. It's high intensity. It's eight reps here eight reps there three four rounds
Starting point is 01:30:43 Not I'm not benching, I'm not squatting, I'm not throwing 315 pounds up. You don't need to do that. At the age of 40, it's a lot more about mobility, it's a lot more about prehab, posthab, all those things where your body can functionally move. Make sure your hips are stretched out, not only will you enjoy, but the wife will too. Like make sure everything is, is, is nice and loose. Okay. I feel like that's a new Jennings commercial. It's O'Jackson. Frank Thomas and Doug, and Doug Flutie. Oh yeah, Frank Thomas.
Starting point is 01:31:14 But, but that's what I'm doing in the gym now, man. A lot of functional movement, a lot of stretching, a lot of superset stuff, a lot of high intensity so I can tone up, man. Okay. You look good. You look great. Yeah. Also, Booger, you kind of teased me a second ago when you were talking about Jaden. I've been spending the last two days just watching Jaden highlights, just soaking it all in because I don't know when the next time I'm going to get a playoff victory is. Who are, can you top, top seven quarterbacks in the NFL. Seven quarterbacks. So my homes, Lamar, Josh, Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 01:31:55 That's four. I would probably go. Um, Matthew Stafford, five golf, Jared golf, six. Hmm. And then it's probably. Yeah. Hmm. Dak seven. Shut up. Shut up.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Cut them off. Get them off the air. We got, we got right, we're right there. You're right there. Hmm. Dak seven. Shut up. Shut up. Cut him off. Get him off the air. We're right there. You're right there. And then probably. Cooper Rush eight. Like to me, to me, Jay Daniels is already top 10.
Starting point is 01:32:35 He's already a top 10 quarterback. Okay. I mostly just want to see your fingers as you count them. That's that's the real reason. See, that's right there. Like this one here, man. This one really, it just kind of, I don't know. It doesn't think like these two right here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Your buddies. It looks like you may get a gang sign. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well
Starting point is 01:32:54 book. Thank you as always. We love having you on and let's, we're going to watch one of the best weekends. This is a divisional round is what it really is. Like, Hey, this is the final eight teams. Let's go, let's go find who's going to the conference championship. It's the best. I can't wait, man. Appreciate you guys. Always have me, have me on. Love you guys, man. Looking forward to seeing you guys in New Orleans. Let me know when the celebration is. Yes. Done. All right. See you, book. Okay. Thanks for program. McFarland, our good friend book. We have our last ad that we're gonna watch for the Doritos contest, Crash the Super Bowl contest.
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Starting point is 01:34:28 Doritos cause the best chip ever. And now for something completely different. Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest. Our friend. It is Dana White, a head of UFC 311. This Saturday in Inglewood, California. Actually, let's start there Dana. Are we still on for Inglewood? Obviously with the fires and everything. It's been crazy, really sad, but are we, are we full going Steve Ballmer's house, the Intuit Dome? Yes we are. We're going. I'm flying in there Thursday night. We have the press conference
Starting point is 01:35:03 Friday is the weigh-ins and then the events on Saturday. Okay, so in in UFC 311, we have two title bouts Uh, what what are you most looking forward to in in this card because it's by the way, I want to say thank you There's nothing better than like a full day of nfl playoff football and then you go right into a ufc card It's like that's that's what that's why we watch sports. I could not agree more. How about, how about the Rams, man? How about the Rams? How cool is that? Yeah. Crazy game. They look legit. Yeah, they do. They look really good. So good. And Pooka Nakua, you know, so I, me and Lorenzo Furtito funded this team, uh, you know, like a Pee-Wee team.
Starting point is 01:35:40 And Pooka Nakua came off that team and grew up with my boys playing football. So that's all. What was he like? What was he like as a kid playing? Dalton Kade lived with us through Dalton Kade, lived with us for COVID. He played football with my son. We have that, that team, a little Cowboys team, tons of guys went on to play in college in the NFL. Yeah. So what was Pooka like as a kid playing football? Cause I love watching him play. He's just got, he's crazy out there. He was a beast. He could play quarterback, running back wide receiver. He played defense. He played special teams. They put them everywhere. And his name's really fun to say too. Yeah. Pooka Nakua. It really is a fun. And when
Starting point is 01:36:23 you're in the state of Pooka Nakua, like every 30 seconds they're screaming his name is really fun to say too. Yeah. Puka Nakua. It really is a fun... And when you're in the stadium, Puka Nakua! Like every 30 seconds, they're screaming his name. He's the greatest kid in the world. It couldn't happen to a better guy. It's awesome to watch. He's an absolute beast. So, all right.
Starting point is 01:36:34 So UFC 311, tell us, which fighter are you most interested in? Or you're like, this is the one that people maybe aren't... Maybe it's not the title fight, but we're like, this is going to be an incredible fight. I mean, the first of all, the main event, you know, Islam and Armin, it's, uh,
Starting point is 01:36:57 th th they are both the style of fighting is almost identical. So it's, it's the toughest fight Islam could possibly get. So, so that's a great fight. Obviously, Marab and Umar, the co-main event Umar is is supposed to be the future I mean he's undefeated 18-0 and you know Marab has has walked through everybody former champions and let me think Yuri Prochazka and Jamal Hill is a great fight the whole card's badass are we were Holland's always fun are we worried at all about Umar's corner man Habib being kicked off a frontier airline flight what what the fuck is he doing on
Starting point is 01:37:33 frontier this kid's got more money than anybody and he ended up but that's how humble he is he's flying on that piece of shit airline My question is gonna be number one What do you what are you doing having Habib flying frontier and then number two? How bad you have to fuck up to get kicked off frontier? Yeah Yeah, I don't know what you have to do to get kicked off frontier airlines, but um yeah Listen, I'll be doesn't fight anymore because he's got shitloads of money. Yeah, I gotta teach Habib how to charter a plane.
Starting point is 01:38:10 Yeah, and we need to make sure just going from Vegas to San Francisco. Yeah, I do like that he was saying the exit row though. That's a man that's saying like in case anything goes wrong, I would want if I was on that flight I'd be pissed off. They kicked Habib off as like an exit row captain. Yeah, you are 100% right. That kicked to be both as like an exit row captain. Yeah. You are a hundred percent right. That's how dumb they are in frontier airlines.
Starting point is 01:38:32 If there's anybody you want in that position, it's a beam of America met off. Yeah. Yeah. Good job. Frontier airlines. And we want it on the record. He's flying frontier by choice, not because Dana didn't pay him because I'm sure there's people who are like, Oh, Dana didn't pay
Starting point is 01:38:42 him. He's flying frontier. Not only did Dana pay him after he won the Conor McGregor fight, he went on like the Muslim world tour and Saudi Arabia rained on him. Abu Dhabi rained on him. Qatar rained on him. Yeah. That kid's got more money than Putin rained on him. I mean, yeah, Habeem shouldn't even know what the fuck Frontier Airlines is just like most people don't. The more you say the people that rained on him now I'm beginning to understand why maybe somebody wouldn't want him flying. But
Starting point is 01:39:12 yeah, but no, you got rained on. You make some you make some good points. He's probably got a lot of money right now. Yeah, he's got plenty of money. So give us something to look forward to in the undercards. Because I love the undercards too. We're going to be done with football. And yeah, it's the nightcap. It's like, you're going to just roll into a perfect Saturday night just filled with sports
Starting point is 01:39:27 So what's one of the under cards that you have your mind your eye on? You can look at Talbot bar cellos Almeida speed back. Those are both great fights Okay, I'm excited Dana I got a tough question for you. It's a bad ass card. Yeah. Sold out, you know, the thing just opened. Biggest gate in the history of the arena, which isn't a big history, but WWE just did like 4 million. We should do close to 10 for this fight.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Yeah. That place looks awesome. Do you have any musical guests that you're lining up for 311? Oh. Uh, to play? Yeah. No. Not 311 not 311 That's what it would be good should play guys there I think Travis Barker's coming and well musical
Starting point is 01:40:15 Musical guests there, but they won't be playing. Yeah, I got a tough question for you Dana. This is a very tough question. Um Talk to me about oiling up. The oiling up? Yeah the the the the weirdest shit ever. You're kidding. This thing I'm on uh oh your boy Taylor LeWan is blowing me up right now. Oh okay he um he probably wants to play blackjack so yeah you you you basically every time you go live people just say Dana oil me up like nonstop in the comments. You want to just address it and be like, hey,
Starting point is 01:40:48 I'm not oiling anyone up. I'm not only myself up. Stop saying it. Yeah, I went on I was live one time and some guy says, Hey, Dana, I want to oil you up. And I was like, what the fuck does that even mean? What kind of shit is that? And now it's a thing. Every time I go live, it's a thing. I don't understand it. I don't know what it means.
Starting point is 01:41:10 I don't get it. I don't want to get it. I think you gotta get oiled up. Yeah, have you thought about oiling yourself up? Like that would do crazy numbers if you're like, hey, I got a big, I got big news. I'm breaking on Instagram live about Conor McGregor. And then it just goes to you just oiling yourself up.
Starting point is 01:41:27 Yeah, I don't know, man. I have no idea. Do you guys know what it means? What's it mean? I think it just happened one time and now everybody's going to keep saying, hey Dana, go get oiled up until you actually get oiled up. Yeah, it's the internet. The internet just goes crazy. And then after you do it, everybody will be like, wow, that was stupid.
Starting point is 01:41:41 And then, but then you can at least turn the page on it. Yeah, you could flip it on. It'd probably be hard to turn the page on. Wait, so what is Taylor texting you about? Do you want to play blackjack right now? That's what he's doing. We just played this weekend. He came in town. We played this weekend and he got murdered. Okay. And then I had to come save them. Okay. Yeah. I mean, we do think of the tunnel of chaos pretty much every day. I think of the tunnel of chaos. Um, I do want to come back to Vegas and go back to the tunnel of chaos It's like once you get a taste of it. You just can never you can never get out of your mouth
Starting point is 01:42:13 So how many nights a week would you say that you're at the tunnel of chaos? many many nights a week Almost those vomit town. I'm probably there. You're pretty good at it. You know, was there last night? You did a good job for me in big cats. We appreciate that How crazy was that it was awesome? It was so much fun It was a it was I thought the will and Taylor were especially Taylor was just like making things up And then when we got there, it was a great dudes night It was just like guys playing blackjack together having a great time
Starting point is 01:42:44 It was it was awesome. Everybody in your company that was there one that night. Yeah I we were basically like how much you want. Yeah Grand put up the body Grand yeah, yeah, I think Titus was down like a hundred grand and that was way back until he got Compton Compton was down Like 300k he was shitting himself And you're just like it's all right. That was a war. Yeah. That one was a war. Yeah. Yeah. That one was the only one that it wasn't easy. We didn't just clip off right away. We had to actually battle. Yeah. So so Dana you were in the news this week. You just joined the board of Metta. First of all
Starting point is 01:43:21 what do you do on a board. I've always wanted to be on a board. I don't know what happens there, but what's your job on a board? Well, that's where we differ. I never wanted to be on a board. I was never interested in it. And then, you know, when Mark called me, I like the idea of this. I like social media. I'm fascinated by it. I think it's the future of not just communication, information, but I think it is, you know, it's the future of media. And obviously AI is fascinating. And he reached out to me, asked me if I would be interested. I was, and this was right after. So I literally was on vacation in Italy. I flew to the RNC in Milwaukee, spoke and flew right back to Italy. And when I landed, I went to dinner and Mark hit me
Starting point is 01:44:12 and said, you got a minute to talk. And I said, yeah. And he asked me to be on the board. And he said, you always seem to be on the right side of everything and my company needs a backbone. And I said, let me see what this entails. And we got into it. And here we are. But my first board meeting was when I was on vacation during the Christmas break. And you basically, you know, they'll pop up things that, you know, either questions or challenges that the company is facing. And they asked the board
Starting point is 01:44:45 to vote on it. Oh, I didn't even realize. What to do. Yeah. Yeah. So you, you just got brought in to like kick everybody's ass. Yeah. The backbone.
Starting point is 01:44:55 That's pretty bad ass. Um, we actually just, I've been on the board for like two weeks and I've already done, uh, I've already done a lot of work in two weeks Let's put it that way. Yeah, it's been it's been very interesting so far. I got one so good I like I got one of those meta headsets and I mean I I can't get enough of being in the metaverse It's it's insane the stuff that you can do Are you planning on doing anything like that with with the UFC like being in the ring as close to the ring as possible? That's in that experience to a whole nother level like like your sunglasses right now.
Starting point is 01:45:28 Mm hmm. You'll be able to do all everything with your sunglasses on include including watching content. And yeah, we are. Have you tried the bottom yet? No, I haven't tried that one yet. I've mostly just done like flight sims. Thriller the fight it's called. Okay. Thr of the fight. It's called. Okay, really the fight
Starting point is 01:45:49 Solutions play thrill for a month and watch the shape you get in so I'll get jacked up. Yeah, I'm telling you'll get in sick shape Yeah, it's incredible. All right. What are you doing for for working out these days? You looked like lean and mean I met this guy three years ago, completely changed my life. I seriously, I'm not even, I feel like I'm 30 years old again. And every day I do this thing called the superhuman protocol, which is cold, plunge sauna, red light therapy, oxygen therapy, and I work out keto. I've never felt better in my life.
Starting point is 01:46:22 That's awesome. What is it called the superhuman protocol? Superhuman protocol, which is a group of things from oxygen therapy, red light therapy, cold plunge and sauna. How long does that take? Yeah, it takes like an hour and 15 minutes. And so the whole working out and everything takes like two hour 15 minutes a day. And how long are we in the cold plunge for? Three minutes. Oh, that's not bad. That's it. I could do three minutes. Yeah. Three minutes at Oh, that's not bad. That's it? I could do three minutes. Yeah. Three minutes at 50 degrees. Then you get in the sauna for 20 minutes at 180 degrees.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Red light therapy for 20, oxygen therapy for 10, and then you do your workout. Wait, so you work out after all that shit? I thought that was the workout. I did. It depends on the timing. Sometimes I do before and sometimes I do after. Okay. That's pretty intense.
Starting point is 01:47:02 I would like to just count that as my workout. If I spent an hour 15 minutes being a superhuman protocol, then I have to go to the gym afterwards. That sounds like a lot. But that sucks. I might try cold plunge and we'll see. But it shows you look awesome. Thanks. Listen, you have a lot more time on your hands when you're unhealthy. Believe me. Yeah, a lot more time when I when
Starting point is 01:47:22 I when I was unhealthy and dying. Yeah, yeah. So while we've got you here, I don a lot more time when I was unhealthy and dying. Yeah. Yeah. So while we've got you here, I don't know if you've seen the professional dick kicking league. I have seen it. What do you think about it? Is there room for an investment there from UFC?
Starting point is 01:47:35 Because I mean, that kind of takes PowerSlap to the next level. I think I'm good on that one. I'm good. I don't see much of a future in that. How is PowerSlap going? Because it's, I mean, it's, it always goes viral. It's, it's crazy to watch. Some of those guys are just hammering on each other. The most successful business I've ever been a part of in such a short amount of time. Wow. That's crazy. Who's the goat? Who's the best? Well, we have champions in every division
Starting point is 01:48:03 right now, but who's the best right now? I would have to say crazy. Yeah crazy Hawaiian. Yeah, the crazy Hawaiian is the best I wouldn't want to fuck with the crazy. No, I want to get hey is is Connor McGregor ever gonna fight again for you? Eventually, okay, you gotta fight against maybe Logan Paul No in India KSI in India No, no, no. Um, hopefully Connor McGregor returns, uh, in the, uh, in the fall. Okay. Cause I mean that would, we're, we're all looking for it. It would be, it'd be very fun to watch him back in there. I know we missed it, you
Starting point is 01:48:40 know, last time, but we want, we want to see Connor back in there. Are you going to do, I went to a couple of shows at the sphere. Are you going to go back to the sphere? It looked incredible. Uh, I like it's, it's the, it's the most incredible place in terms of concerts and venues. Are you going to try to go back to the sphere? It's so bad. I love the sphere and, and anybody that's watching, if you're, if your favorite band ever ends up at the Sphere, you have to experience it there. I just went and saw the Eagles. It was so good. Yeah. So good. And no, I'll never go back to the Sphere.
Starting point is 01:49:13 Why? It just wasn't worth it? It was a one. No, it was totally worth it. But it was a one and done for me. It's very expensive. And the difference between a musical group going in there. They'll go in for two months, right? So they amortize the cost of doing the show over two months. I went in there spent 20 million bucks on one night, right? So that was awesome. It was an unbelievable expense. I did it first I don't know if anybody else will ever do it and what I thought was cool I don't know if was EDC here, but it was one of those like music group They just did it and I saw stuff on on the on Instagram it looked incredible yeah
Starting point is 01:49:51 I go out in the fucking middle of the desert when you could go in and do it at the sphere yeah yeah I mean those are two venues I really want to get to is Red Rocks and then see a see a band at the sphere but yeah the sphere looks like it would just break your brain in a good way Yeah, no, the sphere is a very very cool experience So anybody who's listening believe me when I tell you seen it all If your favorite band ends up at the sphere pay the money fly out to Vegas and go check it out Yeah, yeah, I agree. Do you ever you ever hang out with Mark Davis in Vegas? You guys ever hit the town together? I just ran into him the other night at dinner. I saw him the other night. He was out at dinner with Jim Gray.
Starting point is 01:50:30 I ran into those two and yeah, every time I see a Mark, I go hang and we shoot the shit for a while and he's a good dude. Yeah. Yeah. You have any idea what the Raiders are going to be up to? I don't. I didn't ask him any of that stuff. No. Yeah. We ran into him. No, it's crazy. You know, the whole story about where, you know, I tried to get Brady to go play for the Raiders. Yeah. And it actually started to happen. And then the deal imploded. And then he goes to Tampa Bay and and wins a Super Bowl down there. And then now he ends up owning a piece of the
Starting point is 01:51:02 Raiders. Yeah, such a crazy story. Yeah. Why don't you, would you ever own a piece of NFL team or is that just not for you? Nah, I'm not really into that. I, uh, I like, uh, I like finding sports that, that nobody else believes in it. Yeah. Yeah. So do you have any big plans for the summer? What's, what's next for the UFC?
Starting point is 01:51:22 Um, yeah, we're, you know, we're going to cruise around and we're going to places. We got Saudi Arabia coming up in on February 1st. We're doing a power slap and UFC there. We are going back to Seattle. We haven't been to Seattle in a long time. We're heading back to Miami. We got March. We got London, England. We got Saudi Arabia and Sydney, Australia back to back. So I'm going to Saudi and then going straight from there to Sydney a lot of travel and a lot of places
Starting point is 01:51:49 We haven't been in a long time This is there one country that you've been to that you were surprised just how nuts they are for the UFC. Oh, I mean You have to experience a fight In the UK you have to experience it once in your life. It's the fans are just different over there man It's it's it's very cool. Yeah when Patty would put when Dave went over there to watch Patty fight I was just like god damn it. I wish I had gone because that looked so incredible Hundred percent. Yeah, it's it's it's a very cool experience Plus like when you go when I started going to London in
Starting point is 01:52:22 2001 the food sucked over there the The food was absolutely fucking brutal. Now in London, the food is off the charts. It's completely flipped that it's, it's, it's a great place to go. All right. They fixed the food in London. Um, all right. So Dana, I had one last question again, UFC three 11 this Saturday night, a perfect timing right after the NFL games tune in. It's like wall to wall sports. There's nothing better. My last question is a row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips Polos hoodies, joggers, shorts, row back dot com promo code take. You said in December that you're going to do something. You have something in the works that we will never see fucking see coming for 2025. Can you give us just a hint?
Starting point is 01:53:07 What's what's in the works? You will never I mean, I guess I never expected you to be on the meta board Oh, does that count? I wasn't it? Okay. All right I didn't see that coming either. What are you rolling yourself up? We saw the gun. Okay, I definitely don't see that coming. Okay Using your power on the board get Zuck and Elon in the Octagon? Oh! Actually, you know, when that was really being talked about, and when I was negotiating that deal, that was actually one of the coolest experiences of my career. That was fun.
Starting point is 01:53:40 Every night I was on the phone with either one of them talking about, and then we started talking about the Coliseum in Rome And I seriously had a conference call with with you know, the the the government in Rome To try to make that happen. That was all legit. That was that was real and that was fun. So who don't you? But what I was talking about in December Yeah, I would imagine It's probably gonna happen and it's gonna happen in the fall. Uh, a fight that I'm working on.
Starting point is 01:54:10 Oh. And we'll never see it coming. Nope. Oh, man. Now I'm gonna look for it coming. Yeah. Now we're looking everywhere. Can you give us a hint?
Starting point is 01:54:19 That's your hint. Okay. What, that it's gonna take place in the fall? Yeah. I still think it's you oiling yourself up. That's just my guess. Ha ha ha. I fucking, I'll give you great odds that that's not it.
Starting point is 01:54:31 You can bet on that one. If I guess it, will you give me a million bucks? Right now. I don't even know what the fuck that means, oil yourself up. Just oil up, dude. Just oil up! Yes, if you, if you, if you guess it, I'll give you a million dollars in cash. Right now. Okay. All right. My guess is
Starting point is 01:54:48 Don jr. Versus hunter Biden. Mm-hmm Yeah, no you lose okay, all right my guess Let's go with Dave Portnoy verse Roger Goodell. Ooh, that's a good one. You lose too. Okay. But if you put that on, you owe us a million. You owe us a million if you put either of those fights on. That's right. That's right. If either of those happen, I'll gladly pay you a million. Okay. All right. Done.
Starting point is 01:55:21 I mean, that's a great promotion because now for the next like nine months, I'm just going to be thinking about what I'm not going to see coming. Yeah. Just looking over my shoulder all the time. We're never going to see it coming. All right. So UFC 311, Saturday night, everyone tune in. Dana, thank you so much for joining us, man. We love having you on and hopefully we see you soon. Thanks for having me boys. Take care. Guys on Chicks is brought to you by Aroxon. Let's talk about the elephant in the room, erectile dysfunction. One in four men 18 years and older experience ED which means that you or someone close to you might be experiencing it.
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Starting point is 01:56:22 All right, let's finish up. We got guys on chicks My husband and his group of friends all have something called a burner Account on X the everything app they all think it's hilarious and are constantly referring to each other in public as their burner Nicknames at night my husband will be cackling at his phone in bed, and I'll ask what's up And he responds things like just checking in on the burner verse He said I'm not allowed to follow him because it's his me time and every time I look at his page He and his buddies are just trolling people like fans of other teams and people who don't like Caitlin Clark What is going on and should I be concerned is this weird? No, it's awesome. No, it's weird. Yeah, you have a burner
Starting point is 01:56:58 Cut him out forever. I got into the burner life a few years ago. I only did for like two months I had a burner account. And it's liberating. You can say whatever you want. The like SEC burner verse, that goes crazy. Just like fans of different teams, it all kind of, the only thing I don't understand is they respond to each other and they like will write their fake name
Starting point is 01:57:19 in like, like it's almost a letter. I never got that. Like they'll be like, hope you're doing well and then sign it like Reginald. Yeah, but uh, yeah, I mean he's just having he's just fucking around online Yeah, it's like a diary for guys if your diary was only meant to piss other people off also do not Try to find it or follow because you will not be happy Well, the thing is they don't they don't show likes anymore. Yeah, true So you can get away with a lot more in the true Yeah, some of the burners though are getting like very well
Starting point is 01:57:48 There's some that are getting like they say like really crazy shit like racist shit, but there's also some that are getting like It's I love watching the burners because when you get a little bit of following you can tell when the burner wants to also have a little bit of fame and so they like dip their toe in like when the burner wants to also have a little bit of fame and so they like dip their toe in like they'll tweet pictures that like you could someone could potentially be like I know where that is. Yeah. And it's like a very tricky situation that's fun to watch. Yeah. I mean, it's I think it's healthy to have an outlet for some things, but I don't like the verified burner accounts. It's not a true burner if you have a checkmark. Yeah, those get confusing. Yeah, you shouldn't, you shouldn't verify your alt.
Starting point is 01:58:26 But I was just thinking about the Costco guys. How are they going to be affected by the TikTok ban? And also, how deep does this go? We know that it's a money game in Washington, DC. How many of these congresspeople are taking money from Walmart, and they know that Costco is getting all this free advertisement on TikTok from the Walmart, from the Costco guys. So they're trying to ban TikTok to take out that big marketing stream that they got going on.
Starting point is 01:58:53 These are good points. I think the Costco guys might be single-handedly responsible for the government trying to ban TikTok. There are Walmart guys now. Yeah, but they don't do it for me. They do it for me. It's like anti-comedy. They don't even know what they're doing. Okay, next one. Big J... My fiance doesn't ever make a move on me, and if he does, he says he needs to take a peek at my V,
Starting point is 01:59:20 which creeps me out. How can I tell him to stop doing that and actually seduce me like a normal person? What you take a peek at your V? What I mean you're in too deep you're fucking Fiance engaged to be wed What? peek at your V, so this probably happened and
Starting point is 01:59:41 Like right off the bat she was like surely he has other moves that he'll show What the hell? Yeah. Uh, this one creeps me out. I think you got it with a guy like this. You have to be very direct and you also like that. Maybe give him some suggestions of things that you can say. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:57 What do you say? Like, I don't know that I get turned on by straight V. No, you don't get turned on by V. Just looking at V. I do. No, I get turned on by straight V. No, you don't get turned on by V. Just looking at V I do No, I need some B with the V listen hand up I love the John is yeah, but it's like Either an ABV guy or a BBA V guy Baby Boob boobs ass V
Starting point is 02:00:24 A B A B? Poops ass V? Like the question is not ass or tit it's it's Yeah yeah right yeah people aren't like It's A or B Yeah ass or tit Not A B or V I'm a brains guy I respect a woman's brains But if you look at like a full nude that has some V it looks better That's okay
Starting point is 02:00:38 Yeah yeah yeah But like a zoomed in V? No thanks Yeah zoomed in V I don't think a zoomed in D would look good If you see a full frontal you're not zooming in on the on the V for Sometimes sometimes you look at the V. Why do you guys hate V so much? I don't me it's like the V is a buffalo wing and
Starting point is 02:00:53 And the bees are blue ranch The a is celery. Mm-hmm altogether. It's a beautiful picture I don't think though like isn't this it like when It's a beautiful picture. I don't think though like isn't this like when Dude send chicks dick pics chicks are like what the hell is it like just a solo dick pic is like that again Same thing chicks aren't sending v pics. They're sending B and A pics with some V. I Don't know where all this anti V bias came. It's not anti V It's just a standalone entity you don't just zoom in on a V Just like a video
Starting point is 02:01:31 Just like a picture of your balls would be not good. That's because like dicks and balls are objectively gross and God bless women. I don't know how you put that stuff in your mouth These are just fantastic Yes, these are beautiful. Yeah, great. I love feeling these I never like I want to see that like like wow just I want to look at it I'm not looking at a no. I could look at a at B's and A's all day But I want to just like stare at a V. I want to Experience its context. Yeah, there needs to be context. Yeah Yeah, weird guy. Okay. Yeah, the peak at the V is that's like a child Yeah, I
Starting point is 02:02:03 Need to see your V is crazy peek at your V is worse. Yeah I'm in quite the predicament with my girlfriend I'm a massive Ohio State football fan and Ravens fan last weekend was a huge weekend for me as I had the semi-finals for Our state wild-card game for the Ravens both nights. My girlfriend made me go out on dates with her Where I was barely able to see either of the games it was trying to watch my phone, but she wouldn't let me. Yikes. Next weekend is obviously a little bigger for me now that I have divisional Ravens, Bill's game and Ohio state national championship. My girlfriend wants to go away to a cabin. No, this is not real. My girlfriend wants to go away to the long weekend, but I refuse to miss these games. Please help me find a
Starting point is 02:02:40 way out of this so I can watch my favorite sports teams in the playoff and hopefully win a national dumper. Dude, these are the two. I mean, you have those in what? 24 hours because the late game on Sunday and then the national championship the next day. Yeah. And if you can't get playoff football, like if you can't negotiate a deal for playoff football, right? You're already in, right? You're like, you're, you're, you're too far gone. I think you got a fake being sick This doesn't sound like A long term. I'll just say it. This is this does not sound like a good relationship You're gonna want to be in for a long time. Yeah, this is these are meaningful games for me
Starting point is 02:03:16 I'm not going to cap unless the cabin has TV then and then you know think about think about if you're a Ohio State Ravens fan Like two dates, I know One is is is you know that's a settlement like I'll go on one but I'm watching the other one right. No you can't. You're getting over that into two dates. This is not real. I like this. They said going to a long weekend in a cabin after two dates. Oh oh I missed the two dates part. The two dates last weekend. Oh both nights my girlfriend made me go out with that's how you're oh, I was barely able to see either of the games I was trying to watch my phone, but she wouldn't let me oh yeah
Starting point is 02:03:51 You're in trouble dude get out the problem the deep underlying issue. She doesn't understand your interests. Yeah, yeah This is a pretty big time of year for those interests. Yeah, that's bad I think if you really really like her fake being sick be like I got to stay home cuz I'm puking I think if you really really like her fake being sick be like I got to stay home cuz I'm puking Like act like it's you're in elementary school, and you you're trying to miss a test He's a sailor. That's just a that's a say you'll cut your day and date on a on a flesh wound say you'll cut your dick off if Notre Dame wins Then she has interest sounds like she might be into that yeah true true. She's like great Okay, is that it?, all right good show boys
Starting point is 02:04:27 the good show the good show numbers Five memes you think you're ever gonna get this One day and that day's today. Oh no, I'm never okay. Give it to us 48 okay I'm never gonna get it. Okay, give it to us. 48. Okay. 11. I don't know where I got that from.
Starting point is 02:04:47 I'll go three. 36. Come on, man. You could've taken three. Yeah, that'll honestly hurt my mother. This kid's been in my TikTok comments section saying 36. This is your dad, this is your moment. Fucking loser.
Starting point is 02:05:03 60. Oh, the boys missed it. All right, come back in, let's do it again. This one will count, This is your moment. Fucking loser. Sixty! Oh, the boys missed it. Alright, come back in. Let's do it again. This one will count. This one will count. Oh, Shane, we haven't talked to you. Shane, did you go to the game? Oh, Shane's wearing a Charger Swatcher too. Yeah, it's...
Starting point is 02:05:16 Shane, you didn't go to the game, did you? Did you go to the game? What's up? Did you go to the game? Uh, no, I was on the IR flu symptoms, okay So real quick just thoughts on chargers I'm trying not to think about them. Okay. Yeah, you're wearing a sweatshirt. You were in a church. Yeah. Well, that's just wardrobe I have to keep myself. Did you but I go in did you bum yourself out when you put it on you're like I mean I put on and you're like, ah fuck
Starting point is 02:05:48 I when I saw it like I was about to put it on I was like someone's probably gonna say shit to me today Yeah, and it's 10 in the morning and they already did it's 1130. Yeah, it's 1130 in the morning. Damn All right numbers with all the boys Everyone's here. I'll stick with five I'll stick with 5. 36. I'll go with... 3. Memes, what was the number you just picked? 48.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Alright, I'll go 48. 94, Pog. 23. 21. 11. What did I pick, Memes? 48. Oh 40. Fuck.
Starting point is 02:06:28 Oh man. So close. It's one of my numbers. Love you guys. Win 40 easy. I'm gonna be a good boy. So So So So Thanks for watching!

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