Pardon My Take - Brackets With Stanford Steve, Snooki In Studio + NFL Free Agency

Episode Date: March 15, 2023

NFL Free Agency and Aaron Rodgers is being a diva. We talk about big signings around the league and the Bears bringing Big Cat happiness (00:00:00-00:29:58). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:29:58-01:08:18). Stanford Steve joins the show to talk brackets, bets and tips for how to survive March Madness(01:08:18-01:58:16). Snooki joins us in studio to talk Jersey shore with special guest Joey Camasta (01:58:16-02:24:29). We finish with March Madness FAQ’s (02:24:29-02:38:44).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we got a twofer for the people, one of the biggest mismatches in Height, Snooki, and Stanford Steve. I'd say the biggest difference in combination of Height

and Waist, any guest combo we've had. And I can't believe they came on together. It's fantastic. It was crazy. Now they're the best of friends. Yes, exactly. No, we have Snooki. We actually taped it probably about a month ago.

Very good interview. But first up, we have Stanford Steve. We're going to get into the bracket, into the picks, into how to survive March Madness. He is a veteran of the game. He's going to tell us it all. We're going to talk some NFL free agency. Aaron Rodgers has still not decided

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No, that's Friday. That's the fifth, right? No, the Ides of March. Yeah, the Ides of March. Bad day to be Julius Caesar. Yes, and Aaron Rodgers is being a fucking bitch. He is being a bitch. He's being a real bitch.

Everyone, if you didn't know Aaron Rodgers was a bitch before this, cats out of the bag. This is actually, yeah, this is like vindication for me where everyone has slowly been like, dude, just make a decision. This is annoying. You're holding everyone else up, which actually he's not anymore,

which is nice that everyone's going about their business. But as of the taping of this, I think we all assume he's gonna announce it on the Pat McAfee show that he's going to the Jets. And if he doesn't, memes is gonna have an absolute meltdown. Well, he is kind of holding the Jets up. Yeah, that's definitely happening right now. Well, he's making sure all of his friends get there first.

It's a flight delay. Yeah, he's actually, he's taking the Jets hostage in a way. So he is pretty much demanding that all of his friends are gonna join him. So Aaron Rodgers has put together a wish list. At this point, it's probably Randall Cobb, Odell Beckham. Lazard, he got. Lazard, the QAnon Shaman.

Mercedes Lewis. And Jordy Nelson probably. I'd be sick if Eddie Lacy called him and was like, dude, what about me? It's great China food in New York. Great China food. I, he is Aaron Rodgers being that guy who like, you text your buddies and you're like,

what time are you all planning on showing up? And everyone's like, oh, we'll be there at nine. And then they deliberately show up at like nine 45 to be the cool, fast, really late guy. Yeah, it would be very funny if he told the Jets, he was going to go there. They signed his friends and then he retired. Yeah.

That'd be funny. That would be very jets. Now I don't, I don't hate Aaron Rodgers like you do. I think he's an interesting guy. I like to make fun of him because he certainly gives us a lot of material to work with. But in this case, everyone can admit Aaron Rodgers being a bitch. He's being the worst.

Yeah. He is being the absolute worst. Um, so yeah, we're, we're waiting for that. Uh, I do have one thing I want to point out on the Aaron Rodgers front before again, he's probably going to announce it on Wednesday. Uh, so everyone should expect that. I just want him out of my life. That's all I've wanted.

Uh, I know Packers fans like, Oh, Jordan loves the next next up next comment. Let's relax. Let's, I have at least a year before I have to admit that. R E L A P S E. Yes. Exactly. That's, I'm fine.

Yeah. So I, so I had this thing. So I want you to take memes and Billy, Billy would like this a lot. Um, how much as jets fans are you, uh, putting into account the conspiracy theory that Aaron Rodgers being on the jets will finally, uh, counteract Joe Namath selling his soul to the devil. Cause a WFAN caller called in and was given a lot of time that the theory goes, and I guess it's actually like kind of not a well

known conspiracy theory, but there's more than one guy in New Jersey or New York who believes this, that to win the 1969 Super Bowl, Joe Namath had to sell his soul to the jets. So the jets have just had no soul for the last 54 years. And this caller goes on to say that Aaron Rodgers is the opposite of that energy because of his psychedelic use and, uh, his darkness retreats that he will somehow bring the soul back into the jets.

Well, what has to happen is Aaron Rodgers needs to get really, really high, so high that he sees the devil. Right. And then by Joe Namath's soul back from the devil. Yes. Yeah. I think he can do it. I think, I think he can get it high enough.

I really do. If anybody can do it, it's Aaron. Yeah. So are you guys, have you guys, Billy, I'm sure you've heard of this conspiracy theory. Absolutely. My grandfather was NYPD. He once saw Joe Namath playing catch with a beer can outside of

the club before a big game bet on him. Cause he told him to hand him a hundred dollar bill and he won the game. This is a real story. This is kind of the reason why my family are jets fans. And then everybody. Absolutely believe that he sold his soul to the devil for that super goal.

But I don't know if Aaron Rodgers is psychedelic use is nevertheless like going to reverse that or embrace it. Cause if he embraces it, it actually might have the exact same effect of reversing it. Yeah. If he embraces the lack of soul, soul death. Yes. I mean, we go death, soul death, same thing, psychedelic usage.

If he comes over here with some like, you know, grandmaster plan that isn't of anything of Christianity, who knows what happens. The, the caller said, he said, now personally with the psychedelic part of it, I think that Aaron Rodgers is finding out how to combat the devil when he comes face to face with him once he walks into MetLife Stadium. So I, I just saw this and I was like, Hey, you can mute people. You can mute Billy's mic.

It's kind of weird sound. I saw it. I was Billy. Yeah. I was like, Hey, every other show is going to just talk about Aaron Rodgers and not signing. We should probably address the fact that this signing will finally defeat the devil in MetLife Stadium.

Well, it makes sense because Sam Donald was seeing ghosts there, right? That's a fact. So as MetLife hell, they had the black cat that ran out on the field. This is all adding up for me. Actually, I feel, I feel like the Jets are haunted. Yeah.

I do too. I do too. So Aaron Rodgers. I'm going to love Aaron Rodgers. I'm going to love how he treats the New York media because he's going to treat them like dog shit. Yes. Beneath dogs.

He already is. And he's not even a jet. That's the best part. That's going to be very funny to watch how he, how he deals with, as we learned from Billy's presentation, the venomous New York media. Yeah. So I'm looking forward to that.

Now Leroy did get a scoop yesterday and put it out. I just want to make it clear that Leroy's information is rock solid. And different than Trey Wingo's. Different than Trey Wingo's. Because Trey Wingo had everyone, he basically called it done in the afternoon on Monday. Memes was cursing Trey Wingo's name after that happened. Yeah.

So, so the information that was passed to Leroy was that Aaron has been telling people close to him, including this one person who I can verify is very close to Aaron Rodgers that he's going to New York. So now he's just kind of taking his time. Yeah. He's waiting. He's going to be the talk of everyone. He basically has found a way to make his signing like four day fodder.

And then he's going to somehow spin it and be like, the media always talks about me and it's bullshit. And I don't like it. But yeah, he has held up everyone. He likes to be the center of attention. This is what he's doing. Hold on. We got last three.

Don't foul. They fouled. I knew this was going to happen. I have Southern Missouri plus three and a half. I saw this coming from a mile away. That's all I want to say is it's good to get your first loss out of the way. The first game of the tournament.

That's true. That was so fucking brutal. And you knew the math in your head. If they didn't shoot late enough that that exact thing was going to happen. We also got Sam Darnold to the 49ers, which I love. I love that signing. I feel like we always say, imagine any quarterback in Sam Darnold or in a cow shan hand system.

Sam Darnold works in cow shan hand system in my brain. It also tells me that they really don't like Trey Lance. Yes. At all. And not sure if Purdy is going to be healthy for the start of the season. My guess is that he's probably not. If you just got the surgery right now. But I think the fact that they signed Sam Darnold means that we can probably

take Tom Brady out of the question. Yeah. Of if he's going to the 49ers. Sam Darnold is going to take the Niners to an NFC championship game. And we're all going to be like, is Sam Darnold good? No, he's on the Niners. Yeah. That's just what happens when you go on the Niners.

You play with really good players and you get really good. Yeah. I mean Brock Purdy. I still think Brock Purdy could be the guy, but then I think you put Brock Purdy on, I don't know, for example, the Seahawks or the Raiders. And he's one of the worst quarterbacks in the league. Yeah. But for whatever reason, it works.

Every offense should be run like the San Francisco 49. Yes. So we have some other free agent signings we should get through. I mean, we talked about Derek Carr last week. I don't know what the Raiders are doing. Jimmy Garoppolo. It feels like it feels like Josh McDonald is just doing the exact same thing that he did when he was in Denver, where he's like,

I got to get my Patriots guys in because I like Jimmy Garoppolo. Nice guy. Derek Carr is better than Jimmy Garoppolo. Oh yeah. Yeah. That was fractured. What was the plan here? I guess maybe if they draft someone and he's your bridge quarterback.

They might draft somebody, but it's that relationship is fractured between Derek Carr and Josh McDonald's. But then you go back and say, well, who fractured that relationship? Oh yeah, Josh McDonald's. Right. Right. So Derek Carr goes to the Saints. James Winston re-signed with the Saints.

By the way, he did. Andy Dalton to the Panthers. He's staying in division. You never want to see that if you're the Saints. No, how could you let a guy, if you really love Andy Dalton, you would do whatever it takes to get him off the streets and not go to a division rival. The Panthers are signing everybody.

Yeah. Panthers. David Tepper is like, you know what? I got money. Let's spend it. I'm a rich guy. I was actually thinking about the whole Bears draft trade with the Panthers the other day.

And if there's a guy that would want to buy a distressed asset like the Bears first overall pick and then flip it for more money later. It is. It is David Tepper. Yes, that is true. He would treat it like the stock market. Yeah, that is true. And Max, your Eagles have been gutted.

They got a little haircut. Gutted. Rashad Penny. Rashad Penny. That's true. And Boston Scott. So you're good. And Kelsey.

Those guys played defense. And Kelsey. They played defense. We're. Nicoby Dean, Jordan Davis. So so those guys for a reason. The biggest one was obviously Javon Hargrave going to the 49ers, which makes the 49ers defense even scarier than it already.

Oh, Bradbury also. Bradbury. Yeah, that's the guy who. Stop. Okay. Bradbury was good this year. Bradbury saved a life though. He did.

He saved the rest of life after the Super Bowl by saying that he held him. Boston's got Case Keenum going to have to be reminded of that, Jake, maybe two weeks before the season starts. It's coming home. Case Keenum returns to where he started his career. That'll be nice to see. It's, it was also just a reminder that he's still in the league. Yeah.

Yeah. The Bears have actually, they got TJ Edwards, another Badger. So we got the, we got Jack Sanborn and TJ Edwards, the Badger linebackers and Teraine Edmonds, also a good signing. I listen, I know that people are going to be like, Oh, the Bears, it's always good to win the off season. Like crown him now. They're going to win the, I've seen the meme going around if you like, if you love me

at three and 14, you'll, or if you like me at three and 14, you'll love me at six and 11. That's a hurtful meme. I don't like it, but the Bears have a shit. They have, they're the worst team in the NFL. They had to start filling holes. I saw us that where they signed Edmonds, TJ Edwards and Nate Davis, who's going to hopefully shore up the offensive line.

They need to do more work on it. And they still have the most cap space because they're a bad team with no good players and they need to get good points. They had to do this. Right. You'd rather win the off season and lose it. Said the same thing about the Eagles last year. Yeah.

Everyone was and I also like how Ryan Poles is doing this because it's, it's how I would run a team in terms of like, you just are going position by position and checking boxes. So you don't have to worry about it anymore. So he did DJ more. All right. You don't have to worry about drafting a wide receiver. Then he went and got a bunch of linebackers like, okay, we're good there. One less thing I have to worry about in the draft.

That's a very like, or like in my mind, I'm like, that's smart. How he's doing it. I don't know if it is. I think it is. And yeah, I'm very excited that the Bears are signing guys. Well, when you're three and 14, you have a lot of positions of need. We were the worst. We were so bad on the defensive side of the ball.

And I know people like, oh, you're signing linebackers. You got rid of. John Smith. Matt Eberfluss was a really good coach of the linebackers at the Indianapolis Colts. So I think he's going to get the most out of these guys and I'm very excited. And TJ Edwards is a Chicago guy. So it's, I'm happy. I'm happy and people are trying to, they're trying to ruin my happiness.

Can I give you some advice? Yeah. I'm not going to let them just, no, I'm not letting them just log off. No, no. Just touch grass for a second. Listen, people are going to log off. People are going to try to ruin it. I won't let them do it.

What did Tyler, the creator say? Like you can't get cyber bullied. Where do you think just turn off your phone? Yeah. I'm not kidding. I know what people are trying to do and I know that you have to play the games. No one does win the off season. No one wins the Super Bowl in the off season, but the Bears are doing things that are making

me happy and I'm going to sit here and be happy about it. I also saw a stat that the teams that spend the most in free agency, they actually improve the most in terms of win percentage. We have terrible players. You have to, you have to, if you have a bad team, you have to get better at playing football. How do you get better at playing football? You get better players. Yep.

How do you get better players? Free agency. Yeah. So it's happening. It's not like a long, if a team is established and they've got a good culture and they're a well run organization, then yeah, maybe you don't build in free agency as much. Maybe you just rely on what works, which is the draft. But if you're starting with a pile of dog shit, you've got to plant a couple of roses

in there. And it also, this free agency, because Alan Lazard went to the Jets, Jacobi Myers went to the, uh, the Raiders, which again, Josh Rick Daniels is just like, I got to get as many New England guys in here. So you're going to play quarterback? Yeah. I don't know. So, but it made me realize I liked the DJ more, trade even more because there was no

wide receivers. Yeah. Like who are the big wide receivers that are moving? Yeah. Odell Beckham. I don't think he was coming to Chicago. Probably not. So like, and you had to, you have to figure out quickly what you have with Justin Fields

this next year. You can't be like, all right, hopefully we draft someone who's really, really good. So that great that I've now made it a plus plus trade. This whole legal tampering window is so funny to me that the NFL came out and said, well, okay, it's tampering, but it's legal now starting two days before free agency. The illegal thing where it's still going to be illegal, but we're going to make it temporarily legal for two days. They're going to have to have like a legal, legal tampering window that opens up because

these deals get done even before the legal tampering window starts. Yep. They're just going to have to keep backing up the one player that it's affecting. You know who that is? Who? Lamar. Yeah. Because Lamar doesn't have an agent.

Yeah. So it would be illegal legal tampering if they tried to legal tamper with Lamar because they would be contacting him directly. Another team would be reaching out directly to Lamar who's under contract with the Baltimore Ravens. So they have to wait until Wednesday to reach out to start that negotiation process. Yeah. Yeah.

So Lamar Jackson Ravens relationship, I would say is not going well. No. No. Well, he, he, what was the, what was the tweet? He tweeted out, somebody said like, this is why you turned down like $200 million guaranteed. And then he just did a cap meme at him. Yeah. Like this is cap.

And then he replied with $133 million guaranteed, but I need an agent and then the why the buddy pregnant. Yeah. But I think he was saying that he maybe had an offer from the Ravens of $133 million a year or $133 million guaranteed for three years for three years. And so that might be what he turned down, but that's the shit's going to hit the fan pretty soon with, with Lamar. We're going to find out on.

I'm sure that there are going to be some teams that are going to finally be like, okay, yes, we are desperate. Let's, let's at least try. Yeah. Let's try to do this. And it just, whenever it devolves to memes on Twitter, your contract negotiations, I'm going to just say it's not going well. Yeah.

I feel like that's a fair way to, to assess the situation. It's not good. All right. So we also had, let's see, McGlinchey went to the Broncos. He's a recurring guest. We never talked about the Jalen Ramsey trade to the dolphins. The dolphins, the dolphins feel a little super team-ish in a bad way. Well, a lot of dudes, you're just thinking of Jalen Ramsey.

Yeah. Whenever, when Jalen Ramsey went to the Rams, it's like, okay, super team. Now he's going to the dolphins. So you think that that super team carries over? Yeah. They're happy with Tua. They're going to stick with Tua apparently. And I hope Tua plays.

Yeah. I, I was looking at what they got with the Rams got for Jalen Ramsey. It's not really anything. No, it's not a lot. That's what happens. It was the same thing last year with Cleal Mack and everyone was like, oh, you didn't get anything. If a guy's a little bit older and he's getting a lot of money, it's hard to move him.

Yeah. I, I like to move though. Yeah. No, I mean, if I'm Jalen Ramsey, I love the move. Yeah. The dolphins are going to be very good. I just, there's, they have a lot of dudes. He's making a lot of names now.

I need to, I need to look at the stats and see how much more money he's going to make in Florida because no state income tax as opposed to California is going to be huge. What other big Darren Waller to the Giants, Darren Waller to the Giants. I love that move. Yeah. I mean, anywhere Darren Waller goes, that's a, that's an addition. And there was a weird, so I think I have this right. Darren Waller just got married to, I don't know her name.

She's on the Las Vegas aces. And I think they were trying to keep the wedding under wraps and Josh McDaniels accidentally said it out loud at the combine and then he got traded 10 days later. So that, yeah, I would be upset. Something happened. Darren Waller. Yeah. Now I would like to go ahead and say, full scholarship on the table right now for Darren

Waller's kid with the Las Vegas aces player. Yeah. Let me find her name. We're being very misogynistic. In any sport to James Madison University. The offer's, it's unborn. Kelsey Plum. Kelsey Plum.

Kelsey Plum. Kelsey Plum and Kelsey Plum's husband. Their child, I would like to make a scholarship offer. Any sport. Yeah. Regardless of what it is, that kid's going to be a freak. All right. So according to a report, Waller was upset with Josh McDaniels.

The head coach apparently leaked the news of the wedding with WNBA star Kelsey Plum by accident during the NFL scouting combine. Waller was upset with McDaniels when the Las Vegas Review Journal posted a story announcing the wedding was scheduled later in the week. So it was before the wedding. The couple had not publicly announced their plans to get married. Josh McDaniels just repeating history. A lot of people like this is, this is, this guy can't get out of his own way.

A lot of people don't like their Las Vegas weddings to be following them around places. Were they married by Elvis impersonators? But this is just so classic. Josh McDaniels, like how do you actually do that? He's like, Hey coach, I'm getting married, trying to keep it under wraps. He goes to the combine. He's like, Oh yeah, Darren Waller is getting married, trying to keep it under wraps. How do you, how do you possibly accidentally leak that information?

You know what, Darren, you, you probably should have told Josh McDaniels. Yeah, he wouldn't have known. Well, knowing Josh McDaniels, he probably didn't like Darren Waller was like, here's how I can get him mad, so mad that he demands a trade. Yeah. History repeating itself. Josh McDaniels. Just pissing off all his players.

He's going to go back to New England and then he's going to get hired again as a head coach in five years. I'm just going to piss off everyone. Yep. Yeah. Um, all right. What other ones do we miss? Anything else?

Stefan Gilmore got traded. Oh yeah. Matt Morine got cut. Oh, he did. Yeah. That's right. That was sad. You should have just retired.

Yeah. Stefan Gilmore is, um, one of those guys that like, he was really elite and he hasn't been elite, but you see his name flash and you're like, Oh shit. Yeah. Nice. Nice job. Nice job. Cowboys.

Still good. Yeah. Still good. Yeah. No, I, if I could draft him in my fantasy league, I would and everyone would be like, that's a, that's a reach. I'm like, what are you talking about? He was awesome five years ago.

Yeah. The Cowboys are happy with him. They're making, it felt like they were doing the eyeball emoji tweet. Yeah. A lot of those guys and the speculation is that they might try to get Hopkins cause Hopkins is going to be available. Ooh. A lot of teams want Hopkins though.

Yeah. I would say the Patriots, but the Patriots, they don't really like having good wide receivers anymore. Yeah. I'm trying to think, I'm going through the whole list. Marcus Davenport to the, to the Vikings, that should help their defense, although I feel like. Mike White coming home.

Yeah. He's going to the Dolphins. The New York post or maybe it was WFN posted a picture of him with a halo around him that looked like he died. Yeah. It, it did. I did the Dwight Howard Lord carry him now because it actually looked like Mike White's dead.

No, he's just going to Florida. That's what happens to people from New York right before they die. Yeah. Right. Exactly. He's going to die. The, we all do. The Falcons got Taylor Heineke.

Yep. Fly, fly free my sweet prince. Yep. I think a lot of people were trying to get under my skin about that this morning online. I'm happy for him. Yeah. I've been. Hey, can I give you a piece of advice on that?

Log off. Log off. I did. I logged off for quite a while today. I'm very happy for Taylor. He got paid $20 million to your contract. Always welcome on the show. 10 million here.

Always welcome. And he knows that he'll come back on, but good for him. I'm happy for him. My prediction is that he's going to be the starting quarterback next year. I think he's going to beat out Desmond Ritter and camp. That's just what Taylor Heineke does and the fact that they're giving him a bunch of money. Why aren't the, why aren't the Falcons trying to get Lamar Jackson?

They, I don't know. Didn't they try to get to Sean Watson? Yeah, they were in on that. If you were in on to Sean Watson, why wouldn't you be in on Lamar Jackson? I think they've got that cap room assigned for Will Compton. Yeah, I guess so. But that doesn't make sense, right? On paper.

No, it doesn't. I would rather have Lamar Jackson. It doesn't at all. If you're going to spend a lot with all the warts of the Sean Watson, you're going to spend all that. We don't know that he's got words. Yeah, that's true. That wasn't part of it.

Yeah. The, uh, you think Lamar Jackson would be maybe thought about, get tires? Yeah. Well, what was weird is they were the first team, I think, to say we're not going after Lamar, but maybe they were just saying that because the tampering window, they can't count it. We're not going after Lamar Jackson till Wednesday. Till Wednesday.

Then we're, then it's on. Then it's big time Lamar. Um, oh yeah. And Jared Stittins on the Broncos now. He's going to really push Russell Wilson. There we go. Yeah. So the, the Raiders, they have Jimmy G at quarterback now and who else?

Uh, I don't know. They'll probably get like Ryan Mallard or someone, maybe Bailey Zappy. I don't know. Although Bailey Zappy came in after Joshua James left. I was about to say it just based on vibes. They seem like they would go for a former Texans quarterback. Davis Mills. Yeah.

Or Brian Hoyer. Is he on, is he still around? Yeah. He's probably, he's probably around. Where's Brian? Matt Castle. Yeah. I think Shefty put out a tweet earlier today that was saying that Chad Hennie has received

interest from at least one team, but as for now, he's still retired. Oh. So Chad Hennie could come and play for, play for the Raiders. Also stay very woke on this. Shefter, we love him. Shefter is gaming the system. Oh. He is, he is now, he's gone through a pattern and I've seen this on like four or five different

tweets that he's put out when he's breaking the news live. He will say the transaction and then he'll edit the tweet to add in a picture. Oh. After it's already been tweeted out. So he's doing the speed. So what he, he's going for speed, but also by uploading that picture, it makes that tweet stay at the top of people's timelines because it's like, this is an edited tweet. And for whatever reason, Elon has it in the programming where even as you keep refreshing,

if it's an edited tweet, it stays at the top. So he's like retweeting himself constantly, constantly retweeting himself by editing every tweet once. What a genius. I mean, that's why he's, that's why he's at the top of the game. Yeah. All right. Before we go to Hot Sea Cool Throne memes, I want to hear from you real quick.

Where are you at mentally? Not great. I just want this to be over. Yeah. Yeah. He's really, this is what he's going to do though. He's like, it's basically getting the relationship off on a wrong foot. Yeah.

Can I tell you something? Aaron Rodgers great quarterback. Really, really, really, really, really good. Great quarterback. I have a feeling like the way that this has started, feels like his heart's not all the way into playing for the Jets, right? Yeah, but historically speaking, it makes sense. Yeah.

I mean, he's going to be the best quarterback that you guys have had on the team for a very long, probably since Teemo. Ever? Ever? Yeah. Probably ever. He's still going to be that good. I think it's ever.

But you have to question it. I mean, not to, not to bring up Barstow Van Talk, but it is kind of like that scenario. It seems like even before it happens, it's off to a rocky start. So what I'm saying is they're going to bench him after one quarter if it follows in our footsteps. But you know what I'm saying, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah.

It feels like if Aaron Rodgers really, really wanted to play for the Jets badly, this probably would have been over by now. Oh yeah, for sure. But what's the deal with Randall Cobb? Yeah. I mean, he just. He's a security guy. Yeah.

Somebody's got to explain that. Aaron Rodgers just loves him. He's his best friend. Yeah. I actually, I respect that about Aaron Rodgers. Yeah. He's like, if you're going to sign me, you got to sign Randall Cobb. And you know what?

We're doing the Twitter. We're trying to ruin your fun. So let us not do that. Aaron Rodgers on the Jets, you guys will be a Super Bowl contender. I really do believe that. Oh, I agree. Yeah. I agree.

Look at that memes. Getting excited. At least preseason. Yeah. You're going to have a full off season of buzz and expectations. That's going to be fun. Super Bowl? Super Bowl contender.

No. Yes. Absolutely. I think going into the season, I'm just a disbelief that he has, he hasn't been traded yet. Okay. But if he's on the team, you are a Super Bowl contender in my mind and I'm not doing this is like a bit.

I, he is very, very good. I know, I know from firsthand experience how fucking good he is. All right. All right. By the way, do you play the Bears next year? No. No. No.

Someone, someone was like, would you rather, one of the worst would you rather has ever seen on Twitter tweeted at me? Would you rather the Packers win the Super Bowl or Aaron Rodgers and the Jets beat the Bears in the Super Bowl? Like I would definitely rather lose the Super Bowl. Yeah. We've established that losing the Super Bowl. You mean the Bears go to the Super Bowl?

Losing a Super Bowl would be fucking sweet. I still hate the Packers. It's just, I hate Aaron Rodgers as well, but that I hate the Packers more than Aaron Rodgers, especially now he's gone. He's gone. He's gone. Hey, Hank isn't here. What should we do numbers?

Yeah. Yeah. Fuck it. Yeah. This counts. Yeah. This counts. This counts officially.

This counts. Wait. Let me get my money out. This counts. 18. I'll go 17. 18. I'm going to go with, we have numbers at the end of the show too with Hank here.

So he does get a real shot. I'm going to go 77. Oh man. If 17 comes up 20, I would, I would do anything for 17. Anything. 12. Anything. You and Drake.

Anything. Anything. One. One. One. You. Whoa. Gross.

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The gregarious Henry Lockwood. What does that mean? It means you're just a great storyteller. Jovial. Yeah. You're a great storyteller. I don't want to be around you. If I was to describe you in one word, it would be sadistic.

Sadistic? Why? Uh, this what is happening right now. Hank accidentally told me that. No, accidentally. Like this is a product. You know, this is, I thought it was a safe space. I thought we're a family.

I thought we can tell each other things that when, you know, we're vulnerable or we're sensitive or like, you know, things that bother us and it's going to be okay. When has that ever been the case? I told Big Cat. Yeah. There's so many things. I don't, I didn't tell you guys I was afraid. That's true.

We went up to the Empire State Building. Big Cat was rattled because me and PFT were right about how to highlight your bracket. No, PFT actually said he does it both ways. He's bi-curious when it comes to bracket highlighting. Yeah. I swung around. And then he just, in college, he did it one way and then the rest of his life. I experimented.

I experimented. It wasn't for me. And Big Cat basically stole my bracket from me. Well, no, I'm holding your bracket because I want you to highlight every game when we're in Columbus. And then he started to fold it up and I said, you know, I don't know. And then he started to fold it up. And I cringed and I was like, I really hate that sound of folding paper.

And Big Cat has spent the last 20 minutes being like, is your head, like my headset phones on because I'm, I have to worry about sneak attacks now, which is problematic for this podcast. We realize you just called folding paper a sneak attack on you. It is. We're now finally getting justice for your yawns. Oh, yeah. That's the thing.

I'm going to have a piece of paper on me at all times. Hank released a yawn full. Oh, we also found out that Max hates the sound of paper rubbing together like this. We got you guys. Now that's a corner. Okay, go ahead. Put your headphones back on. I won't do it again.

No, we got the sound of paper tearing when you go. Oh, I like that. That's fine. Okay. Are you hot? Oh, no. Hank, you winced. You winced a little.

That was a big one. You didn't like that, Max? Carson wins. I mean, now we're just being rude to the listeners. People are going to be, no, no. They care. No, they're happy. They used to care.

They've changed. My cool throne is I have a couple of first ones. Whales. Oh, great. You're not doing a hot seat first. My hot seat was me because I have to deal with the sadistic two sadistic freaks on the other room. Freak flag fly, Hank.

Yeah, I just feel like, you know, I can't be myself. I can't be vulnerable. And that's sad. And my cool throne is whales. Yeah. Brendan Fraser won the Oscar. Dude, what a comeback for Brendan Fraser. Yeah.

Brendan Fraser turns out is a universally beloved person. Well, he, he, I mean, it's a tale as old as time when it comes to just like culture, we tear people down. And then when we build them back up, we're like, we always love that guy. It's like, well, Hollywood, you tear them down for many, many years. Yeah. I'm proud to say I'd never tore down. I did not participate in the tear down or Brendan Fraser.

School ties. I still think Monkey Bone is a great film. Yeah. Mr. Encino Man. Was he Encino Man? It was a movie with Elizabeth Hurley. Bedazzled. Was it?

Yeah. Was he Steve Nebraska? I love that movie. Proud bonk. That is maybe my most proud bonk of all time. And to this day, Elizabeth Hurley would. Yeah. Oh, definitely.

Steve Nebraska. And what was that? What was that movie? Georgia. The jungles. How I remember him. The scout. Yeah.

The scout. He was Steve Nebraska. That's right. The picture that also hit dingers. Any, any pitch. I think a perfect, perfect game. Yep. Where he all strikes.

Yep. He got, he got lowered into the stadium from a helicopter, I believe. Dude. I, Brendan Fraser rocks. So fuck you, Hollywood. Also fuck you, Hollywood, for leaving off Paulie Walnuts. Michael Cervino. No, that's not his name.

Fuck people are going to get mad that I actually just doubled down on it. Was Ray Liotta on it? Yeah. Yeah. Michael Cervino was right name. No, that was not his name. Fuck Paul Cervino. Uh, they left off some like pretty big names.

Paul Cervino. Remember he was the boss and good fellas. Uh, they left him off. Paulie Gullitieri. Yeah. Uh, no, his name's Paul Cervino. That's actually his name. And then they left off Paulie Walnuts.

Yes. Which is bullshit. That is bullshit. Absolute bullshit. And Tom Sizemore. Hollywood phonies. They left off Tom Sizemore. Yeah.

And also Top Gun didn't win Best Picture. Bullshit. Bullshit. Well, the whale did. No, the whale didn't. Everything everywhere all at once. That's our Oscars recap. Yeah.

Hope everyone enjoyed it. Nobody got slapped. That was bullshit. Yeah. That was bullshit. Uh, speaking and then in my other cool thrones. Back to whales. Was, uh, we'll shout at whales.

A lot of them are dying and washing up in New Jersey. We got to figure that out, Billy. Um. Are they really? You got her best man on it. So nice. So nice. Yeah.

That's actually true. Red is kind of killing them. What if they're just too fat? No, it's like some, it's what Billy's saying. Sonar. Red low key. Really? Oh, it's windmills.

It's windmills. Windmills. How are windmills killing whales? Send off sonar. Yeah. They like fuck up the sound. Like fucks up. Yeah, it fucks them up.

They just go insane and they wash the shore? Yeah. It's like if we, if like the whales put in some type of, uh, machinery that just like fucked with our ears. It's like, it's like. Stomp. Yeah. No, that's the sonar for whales.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also shout out killer whales. Shout out Orca's marketing team because I've been doing a lot of, uh, a lot of Orca videos recently. Orcas are fucked up animals. Dude.

Yeah. Explain. They've been mainlining Orca videos. People say that Orcas have never killed a person in the wild. That's cause they've gotten away with all the times they've done it. Yeah. Orcas are metal as shit. Orcas.

It's a perfect crime. Orcas die in the ocean from an Orca and no one's there to see it. Exactly. That's, they get away with it. Yeah. And you saw it. We haven't had. They deserved it.

We haven't had a good story about a person getting swallowed by a whale in a while and then getting spit back up. No, dude. You should bring that back. There was actually like a year ago a kayaker got swallowed by a whale like getting krill. There's a video and then they got spat out. Holy shit. Like actually look it up.

That rocks. That is awesome. So whales. Uh, yeah. The other cool throne is Blake Griffin. Why? Uh, have you guys seen the, the, they're coming out with a show about the Donald Sterling situation.

Oh. And then they cast, they have, you know, actors for Blake, Doc Riffer, Doc Rivers, Chris Paul, like the whole crew. It's a funny, it's a fun, you haven't seen the cast pictures? No. Awesome. It's funny. But I'm excited to see the show.

I would like to get Blake on in here. I don't know if it's one of those things where, you know, the people that are involved are like, this is a bullshit representation. This isn't even what happened. Kind of like the show time Lakers show where they had issues with it or if it's something that Blake might be in cahoots with, um, type deal. Who's playing Blake? It's, I don't know who the actor is.

Do they have Donald Sterling saying Matt, what is Matt? Big magic Johnson. What does he ever tell? He got eights. It's got to start the show out soon. Also the greatest deposition of all time. Yeah, they need to do that. I just pulled it up.

I'm going to read it real quick. Uh, this is from Donald Sterling. Well, I fool around sometimes I do when a girl seduces me and tells me all these hot stories and dirty things and tells me how much she wants to suck on me and takes my shoes off and licks my feet and touches me when I'm in a limousine, she takes all of her clothes. The limo driver said, what is going on? And, and she started sucking me on the way to Mr. Coon's house.

And I thank her. I thank her for making me feel good question or the other person, sir. The question was, is this your handwriting? True. True. I would have John Voight play Donald Sterling. That would be good. Yeah.

But they gave, they gave Blake's actor red hair too. Oh, really? Right. You know, they should have just had Taylor do it. That would have been cool. His brother was his, uh, all right, let me see the picture. These are the, these are the, the actors, uh, okay. Blake Griffin.

Where is he? JJ's good. Oh, but he doesn't look anything like him. Now this is, Blake got done dirty. Oh, the guy's kind of attractive. Do you think the Chris Paul, they should have Cliff Paul do it. That would have been sick. Oh no, it's, uh, Al Bundy is, is Donald Sterling.

Yep. That's a good casting call. That is good. Yeah, I like that. Yeah. I don't kneel. Yeah. Okay.

Good hot seat. Cool throne. Hank. Thanks. I won't ever do the paper thing again. Thanks. Great job, Hank. What's yours?

My hot seat is going to be my, my golf game. Oh. My golf game's in trouble. I haven't been able to practice in like a week and a half. And if you're a real dipplehead like me, you know that that, it just takes the wind out of your sails entirely. Speaking of orcas, I'm like the orca that's in captivity with a fin that's bent over because I can't get out and practice because I got a nasty blister.

Last time Hank and I went after last Sunday's show and just drilled balls for like an hour, full hour, getting swings in tore up my hand so bad that I haven't been able to use my hand for anything. Like I've had a gnarly blister, which is good for my masturbation strike, but it sucks. It sucks not being able to get out there and hit the links with the fellas and I can't wait to get back into the game, but how do you, how do you golf and not get blisters? I was thinking about becoming the first golfer to be like Teddy two gloves, two gloves, no the guy who hit the hole in one, the guy on tour who was two gloves.

That's right. Yeah. So maybe I'll just have to be a two glove golfer from now on. I don't know. Have him be your favorite golfer. Pee on your hands. What's his name? That's right.

Moisesaloo or something. Yeah. Moisesaloo was like, yeah, I piss on my hands every day in the shower. That's why I don't wear batting gloves, but I think that he just got caught peeing on his hands one time. Tommy two gloves gaining. There we go. That's his name.

That's not the guy we're talking about. By the way, that's just a prelude to Jake having maybe the toughest moment he's ever had in the Stanford Steve interview. Yeah. Gee, you missed it. Hank, it was, it was real bad. It was real bad. I'm just fortunate.

You guys are letting me stay on the show. Yeah. Huh? Tommy Ganey does wear two gloves. So you're right on that. But the guy who hit the hole in one. I don't know. There's a guy who's currently, and he hit a hole in one on 17 at TPC and it was electric

and then everyone was like, whoa, did that guy wear two gloves? Aaron Rye. Aaron Rye. Here we go. So you just got to be an Aaron Rye guy. Okay, I'll be the Aaron Rye guy. Yeah. Two gloves.

Yeah. Okay, your cool throne? My cool throne is Great Britain and USA. Great Britain beat Columbia in the world baseball classic. Huge upset. Okay. I don't even think that anybody from Great Britain on the team is actually English. I think they're all guys that are in the minor leagues that have like some sort of like

grandfather from Great Britain, but they beat Columbia. That's good for Great Britain. It's also good for Team USA to advance by beating Columbia. So Team USA might still be in it. It's hard for me to get in the world baseball classic. Yeah. But you find out about the bases? The bases, I don't think they're as big, so that's why I'm not interested.

Damn. Those bases need to be 50% bigger and then I'll be like, yes, I am officially watching. But I'm not going to watch, but I am going, when I see the graphics on screen, if I see the American flag beating another flag, then I'll be like, fuck yeah, go USA. I had that same thought last night when Mike Trout hit that dinger. Yeah, USA. Also not, not cool that everyone was like, well, Mike, this is the closest Mike Trout will be to the playoffs.

That was mean. He's just out there fucking repping our country, hitting, mashing just bombs. But yeah, I had the same thought where I was like, if USA gets in the finals, I'm in. 100%. Yeah. And then I'm going to see the lineup that we're going up against and probably the Dominican Republic and be like, yeah, well, we're done. Yeah.

We're toast. But it's fun to have a World Cup of Baseball just on the background. Right. You don't have to listen to, but you can get invested in just to be like, we still got it. We're still the USA. It's a win-win. Either US doesn't win and I just never recognize that this happened or they do win.

And I put on American Flag Shirt and watch the final game. And then I act like I was behind USA the entire time. Yeah. My other cool throne is pup punk because it just got announced today. We're playing at the Oceans Calling Music Festival if there's no hurricane. Oh, nice. So it's September 29th through October 1st. It looks like we're opening.

I'm looking at this for the very first time. I just got it. We're opening up for John Mayer. Oh, hell yeah. That's pretty cool. We got John Mayer, Incubus, Cheryl Crowe, Bonk, Dispatch, Jimmy, World, Matt and Kim. We're opening up for those guys. Bonk, Incubus.

What was that Bonk for? How many in between you and John Mayer? We are the smallest font possible. They created a font so small for pup punk that it's never existed before and only ants can read it. We're opening up for John Mayer. We're going to shuffle you off before John Mayer even shows up. Oh, for sure.

They're probably not even going to put our name up on whatever official load-in paperwork. Yeah, you'll be like Spinal Tap. You're going to have a green room in a janitor's closet. And then the Luminers are playing on Sunday. Oh, hell yeah. And Weezer. So we're opening up for Weezer and the Luminers, too. Nice.

And the Wallflowers. I love the Luminers. Luminers are a fall band. For sure. And when the leaves turn, you pop open the Luminers and just rejoice in it. So I guess a secondary hot seat for this is going to be Frankie because Frankie is going to be overseas at the Ryder Cup. Oh.

He's going to be off-site for this, so we need to find a new drummer for it. I'll do it. You'll do it? I was actually going to. I was wondering if I did it and just didn't practice, like, all right, guys. This is the only time where it might be realistic to get Travis Barker involved. Travis, you play for every other band. Yeah, definitely realistic.

Yeah, come play for pup punk. Totally realistic. Come on, Travis. You want to open for John Mayer? Yeah, he probably will. Yeah. All right. Official invitation extended.

If Big Cat can't make it, then Travis Barker will be our drummer. It sucks you're not playing on Sunday, though, because then you could say kind of stretch the truth. John Mayer is opening for you. Well, let's see. Who's opening for us on Friday? Because it's a three day. Jack Johnson is opening for us.

Yeah. Alanis Morset opening for us. Third Eye Blind. Oh, I mean, I'm a huge Third Eye Blind. Yeah, so they're top 10 albums. They're lucky enough to be opening for pup punk at Ocean's Calling Music Festival again that's September 29th through October 1st in Ocean City, Maryland. Shout out to Secret.

One of the best bars in America. I love it. All right. My hot seat is me for incorrectly tagging Stephen A. Smith as a strip club guy. He came out on the record. He said he's not a strip club guy. He doesn't like the smell. He doesn't like the smell.

He said he used to go when he was a younger man, but not for him anymore, does not like the smell. There's a very distinct smell. There is. But it was just, actually, you know what? I'm taking myself off the hot seat because if you have to come out and say you're not a strip club guy, you are a strip club guy. That's true.

He's just going to the strip clubs we don't know about. He goes to strip clubs, but he doesn't love them. Yeah. He plugs his nose. Yeah. Yeah. He puts Vicks vapor rub inside his nostrils when he goes to a strip club and hand up. I was wrong.

I was wrong. The strip club shotgun Willys. They did provide. They like reached out to the New York Post to provide all those quotes. They were trying to say, John Merritt, they were trying to stick up for John Merritt. They're probably going to lose some top tier clientele. They were thinking to themselves, we'll just get free advertising where people will come in, but you would probably rather have one John Merritt than have 500 people who aren't

John Merritt. Yeah. Like if you're, if you're a celebrity or someone who's trying to go to the strip club and remain anonymous, shotgun Willys is not the place for you anymore. Definitely not. They just fucking air your dirty laundry. I still love that picture for John Merritt. Oh yeah.

I got caught on camera in a strip club. The best way to do it is to be getting a lap dance while the entire room is covered. Yes. In money. Yes. That's a cool look. And then my cool throne is Max. Max is immortalized on a coffee mug.

So we're doing mug mania. You can buy limited edition, only four days. We have sad max on a coffee mug at sellablecoffee.com that just says before coffee. He's that picture. It's maybe one of my favorite pictures. That will follow you around. Yeah. That will be, I mean, it is truly, we all have them.

You just got to embrace the fact that you are now part of the club of bad pictures of sad pictures. But yeah, that picture, god damn it too. I love it. Every time I look at it, I chuckle. I'm buying one. I'm buying a mug. Yesterday, I did my laundry from the strip club last week, folded it last night.

Wait, what? No, that's correct. Hold on. Do you have a laundry machine? I do. Is it March? You have a laundry machine and it took you that long? No, well, I did my laundry.

We've been traveling. Yeah. Okay. Indy. Yeah. There's been a lot of travel. Yeah. Yeah.

In the middle of the week. Yeah. There's been a lot of travel Max. I agree. I was looking around my living room the other day. I've got, I have currently three suitcases in my living room. I do that too. With clothes that I wore, actually the Super Bowl suitcase I just unpacked.

Yes. I did that laundry last Monday. I just throw all my clothes out. You know what my move is? I do. Baller. If I have two trips close together, I just won't, I'll come home with the suitcase and I won't, I'll like leave it in the corner of my apartment and then when I'm ready to

go on the next trip, I'll just throw the entire suitcase in the laundry and then put it right back in. Yeah. You're set. That should go back. I've already packed. Yeah. That's basically what I did.

I did the laundry and pulling out that shirt and the sweatpants was like, oh, I don't see you like. PTSD. I just don't see a situation where I can ever wear them again. You got sweatpants. Eagles back in the Super Bowl. You have to. That would be the last redemption.

Redemption. Yeah. Can you imagine that? Unfinished business. Which, if I flip the script, that would be, yes, your sweatpants are the, the Brendan Fraser of clothes. Yeah. Yeah.

I feel like you're putting too much blame on the sweatpants and not enough. I mean, that's what that's all at any, oh, okay, okay. I want to see those sweatpants in rotation. They make me laugh every time. They're very funny. Please. I'm asking you. By the way, we skipped over it when you said Blake Griffin, Hank, panic button out

now. Because speaking of whales, why didn't we talk about your whale play? Yeah. Hank had whale play Celtics minus 13. They lost. Damon Stottemeyer, all time, all time glue guy. He got a new job, I think with Georgia Tech and he was like, I'm going to come to the Hawks game because I want one more night with the boys.

Like he could have obviously just not, you know, continue to coach. So I was like, wow, this is inspiring. The Celtics are going to play their ass off for their coach for one last time. Whale play. Those get some rockets, right? 13 and a half point favorites. They get some rockets. I'd get a whale play and then they were down a lot in third quarter.

They didn't play well. So I lied about them when they were plus money and then they lost. I've been grinding PGA tour, uh, 2K23 PFT. If you want to get some reps offline, yeah, when you can play on the course and I was streaming with Rudy, I had a, uh, it was maybe the worst four seconds of my, like you could ever predict or imagine and it's hard to really explain into words. How to put to win a hole was online the whole way, literally went around the cup, missed. I was frustrated.

I look up as Jason Tatum is driving to the hole to miss a layup to tie the game and I, I, I legitimately threw my headset and walk, but while I wasn't on video, it was Rudy's stream. So I was, you can just hear me, but it was, it was, I, I, I rage quit. I was like, I've never, I haven't felt like that since I was a 10 year old. I think. Are you worried though about the Celtics because it feels like they're very good. Something might be a little off.

I think the, the something is, is Tatum, I think he's just not playing his, his A game right now. I think if he finds it, I mean, that's not a caution. I take to say, like you need Jason Tatum to be on his A game to win a championship. Correct. So I think that's, that's what they have to figure out. And he's just not, you know, he's, he's scoring a lot, but he's missing a lot of shots. He's got to figure it out and that's what we need to figure out to win.

How are we feeling about Marcus Smart right now? Cause it, it seems like he's back in his, uh, back in his old bag where he's just like throwing guys to the ground, being a hot man. I mean, that's, that's Marcus Smart with him. You live and die with him. I love Marcus Smart. I'll ride him. He is a true living.

He is a true, like, yeah, you can't, you can't, you can't. You can't nitpick the bad because it's, then you just be mad, but that's all everyone does. Yeah, not me. Yeah. Sometimes Marcus Smart does that because he's frustrated and sometimes he does it because he's so amped up about how things are going. He makes some, some, some wild plays, some wild decision making and that's, you know,

you got to live and die with it. But it is, it is always fun when you have a player on your team that, uh, is very divisive in the fan base and you just get in like arguments and like, we're all on the same team here, but there's Marcus Smart people. There's not Marcus Smart people and I feel like you just argue for it. There's intangibles. I would argue on the side of intangibles where it's like, yeah, he makes bonehead decisions, but he's also like, obviously a team leader and he sets the tone on defense.

Like you're going to, there's a lot of things that you don't see that you get with Marcus Smart that benefits the team versus the things like obviously the turnovers and the bad shot selection sometimes, but it's, it's the good and the bad and I'll take the good all day. Uh, also, I think he criticized refereeing a few days ago and then I think he got like ejected and a technical, like the two games after he, yeah, he did, he got find, which brings his fine total and screw up to $520,000. That's awesome. So that again, that's where it's like, it's not, it's not like, uh, yeah, it's not like,

it's not like this is new with him. This is just how he is and how he always has been. Cost of doing business. Yeah. Yeah. He should get, he should aspire to be a million dollar fine guy. He weren't, you know, two and Oh, like they, the Graham Williams, uh, I'm going to make both and then he missed and they lost.

He hadn't played Blake had been playing his minutes. They were two and Oh, so before that. All right. So Blake Griffin's the key. Uh, bill your hot seat. Cool. First hot seat is Trey Wingo, depending on what happens in the rest of the day. This may be irrelevant, but Trey Wingo reported Aaron Rogers is going to the Jets and he

might have, you know, blown it too early. That's a sin. Blaming him. Yeah. Fuck him. Send that. Send anyone that does that to the Gula. I'm sending cocaine bear into your backyard.

Oh yeah. I still don't forgive him for the bear tweet when he said this bear is in my backyard and it was the same picture of a bear that he had used seven years ago. He's the boy who cried bear. Yeah. He cried bear. So Billy just took that line from me when I, that's what I told Billy yesterday. It was funny though, uh, seeing, uh, Dove climbing aggregate, uh, Trey Wingo and reported

his fact and then you saw Garrett Wilson on the Jets. He was on vacation. He's like, now I can enjoy my vacation. You should see the smile on me now. And then everyone was like, dude, nothing has happened yet. And Garrett Wilson said, I ain't going to fake it. I thought Dove bro tweet was the news break I was waiting for shaking my head. I don't know anything.

Sorry about that. Dove. That's what, that's what, that's what Dove does. The Dove bro tweet, Dove had to be like, I aggregate the news. Sorry. This is not breaking. I'm taking other people's breaking news. It would make sense that Rogers would give the scoop to noted pothead Trey Wingo though.

They probably enjoyed blazing it up a little bit together. True. Leroy reported it. Also, however, Leroy received word from a direct source close to Aaron Rogers that he decided to play for the Jets. So we're standing by Leroy's report, but is there a statute of limitations in hours because I feel like both Wingo, like if he signs, well, I guess we shouldn't have even done this because it probably signed it and we probably started the show with this.

Yeah. So Leroy is very careful in how he words his tweets and how he words his break news. He says Aaron Rogers has decided to play for the New York Jets. Got it. He says, pick the Jets over retirement. There still need to be some T's crossed, some I's dotted between the two teams on compensation. Got it. And in case he does get signed, we delete that.

My other hot seat is Leonardo DiCaprio's character and catch me if you can, Frank Abednaily. Yeah. I don't know if I pronounced that right. Turned out he lied about lying. Yeah. He might have not lied as much. He's the greatest. He's the goat liar.

Wait. This isn't news though. I just saw recently. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Okay. I was gonna say because like I remember when the movie came out and people were like, no,

he didn't do all these things. Yeah. And he was like, well, I didn't do all of them. The con man is being honest this time. Yeah. You can trust him. That is good that you got the news on Tiktok. Yeah.

That movie's up there with with Shawshank. It is. I rewatched it. I'll watch it. Yeah. It's good enough to watch with commercials on TV. Yes. I rewatched it a few weeks ago and I was like, yeah, this movie was fucking good.

It's so good. It came on Netflix. Yeah. And then I watched it for the first time. Spiring. If you are. Yeah. Spiring.

You can lie your way to the top. No, the internet ruined that. They're going to make one about George Santos. Oh, I hope so. Yeah. That guy's awesome. Yeah. Oh, you know that George Santos right now is scamming the shit out of other Congress

people. Oh, yeah. That's why he's selling dogs. He inspires me to get into politics. If he can do it. Yeah. I haven't done half the shit. Yeah.

No, honestly, there's there is a world where we have like president Lockwood and vice president football. Yeah. About 30 years. My favorite George. Besides George Santos saying he was he said that he was Jewish. And then when someone called him on it, he was like, no, I said I was Jewish. That was an all time line.

Like the best line ever. But my other one that I loved, he he said that yeah, he said, no, I was Jewish. He also said that he was like a incredible volleyball player at Baruch College, noted alum Glenny Balls. It's just so funny to be like, here's the lie and my lie and my like fantasy. I was just really good at volleyball. Yeah. And why wouldn't you just be a sick football player?

Well, he also tripled down on the volleyball thing and he said that he tore his ACL and played through it. That's how tough he was playing volleyball. Yeah. He really is an inspiration. Yeah. He he also has like, he basically had so many lies that like he actually couldn't be born. He was like, my grandmother died in the Holocaust, my mom died and I was like, wait, then how

are you here? Yeah. Like, that makes no sense to just persevere through and through. And McCoolthrone's Bitcoin low key back. Oh, OK. Lightweight back. Is it ripping? I mean, I checked it.

All this bank stuff made me like, let me check all my assets, which was like a couple of weird coins in my crypto wallets from like the NFT boom stuff. And I was like, oh, shit, it's not like nothing like a week ago. So that means that the the three board apes that we get per episode, yeah, we just essentially get a raise. We're booming. I did see the clip, Billy, of you on the on the finance podcast talking about what you did with your rough and rowdy winnings and it made me laugh.

Yeah. Billy was like, are you you want to say it was just like basically I took all my rough and rowdy winnings and put them in like, what were they called Roth IRA? No. What was the arc funds? I basically put all my money in the stock market when it was all way overvalued. And yeah, not a good move. But you live and you learn.

Yeah. Rough and Rowdy just takes down everyone who does it here because Jerry had the same thing where he went competing in rough and rowdy one and then didn't realize that he had to pay taxes on me either. So it's it's a tough one. Yeah. Like free money. They don't tax money for for fighting.

Hey, did you come back from that financially? Oh, yeah, I got 10 K cash. I just want a vacation. Naturally. Oh, yeah. Would have been a better. So did you pay taxes on that? Yeah.

Totally. Hmm. Obviously. I don't fuck around with taxes. You don't. You don't. It's coming up now. Soon.

I know. I got a guy. Fuck yeah. Who is it? Left or right? What's Bernie? Very left. Very left.

Wrong. All right. Bernie, bro. Wrong about everything. Yeah. OK. OK. Hank Leftwood.

Me and AOC. Jake, my hot seat is being negative. Can you go green? That's a green. That's the thing, right? Yeah. You can be Green Party. I'll be Green Party.

Marianne Williamson. Yeah. You are going to like it when you dig into Green Party, but yeah, go for it. I think Hank's going to end up actually eating us one day. Well, I was just thinking like what's red plus blue combined? Purple. Oh, I thought it was green. All right.

I'm purple party. All right. Purple. Purple. Lean into it. All right. Jake. My hot seat is being negative.

Yes. This story is crazy. Yeah. And you should be ashamed. I am ashamed. OK. Very bad luck. All right.

So explain it. For who? Explain it. You mean I was right. I was right. I was right. So who owns this radio station. The Syracuse affiliate.

They fired a local radio host, Brent ex also a professor at Syracuse University. They said he was too negative. Now who owns this radio station. So Ed Levine who was a close friend of Jim Bahlheim, I believe they're bringing him on who Jim Bayern part time for some appearances. So does Jim Bahlheim he's an investor in this company? So coach Bahlheim and I are personal friends, and he's an investor in my company.

Oh, no. fan. I'm sorry, but I bleed orange. I'm not going to apologize for that. And I think a fair reading of the orange is appropriate. This guy has to be the worst sports radio executive of all time. Sports radio exists to be negative. Yeah. Like being like, yeah, good thing we missed the tournament. Like the boys are looking good next year. Who wants to listen to that? I'm the most positive person out there. There's a reason I don't like it was a bullshit firing. Yes. Okay. Wow. I'm like the reason I don't do sports talk and I like play by place play by play. You just call as you see it. Yeah. I don't like

having big opinions. Obviously that's why I never wanted to go to talk avenues. So that's the point of this is having opinions. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Through him under the bus. Through him under Jim Bayhams SUV. You guys want him on the show. You guys want him on the show. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I don't know. He might get us. No, you don't get to come. Also, when you say didn't go to talk avenue, were you going to talk that one out? Yeah. Jim. Jim Rome was an avenue for a while. You what show are you on? I didn't go to talk. How many times do I provide opinions here? No, no, but they're asking like, what like did you you never even attempted to talk? I mean, like you at a young age, you're like,

I don't like, I don't like, I don't have an opinion. Yeah. Like I tried out at the student registration. I tried having a talk show and I was like, this isn't for me. I would like to hear those tapes. It would be great. Reading the scores. Yeah. It's like, yeah. Here's what happened. So no, this was bullshit. This is absolute bullshit. Yeah. Brent acts. Yeah. Those names kind of foreshadow, right? Yeah. So people said is is Jim Bayhams being on Sports Talk Radio going to be good at all? No, I feel like he's not going to be good at it. It would actually be great though. Because Jim Bayhams. I don't get why people like just just chill out. Yeah, you have money. Yeah, you don't. It's over. Don't you can't

control this anymore. You controlled it for 47 years to Florida. Let everyone else have a chance. Agreed. Yeah. Not great. There are a ton of alums being like, what's going on here? They're going to reinstate this guy. But are you in like an alumni Facebook group or something? I just what I've seen on Twitter. Okay. My cool throne is Puerto Rico talked about the World Baseball Classic. They threw a perfect game against Israel, 10 of nothing or did they? The debate comes back. How many pitchers? It was a mercy rule in eight innings. Does not count. Was it one pitcher? 24. No, four pitchers, four pitchers. Max, is that a no hitter? Perfect. Perfect game. No, 24. No, I was actually thinking about this. There

are so many no hitters. Fake ass no hitters now. No, I think it's actually history is going to look. You'll be well on me. I don't know. I don't know the saying, but like in college baseball, it's every single day. I see something else for a combined no hitter because it's so much easier to get a combined no hitter. That's fake. I have a question. You're saying the words no hitter though. I have a simple question. Game for the World Series is here. How many hits to the Phillies? I get it. I get it. There are tech. Wait, no, just answer the question. Just answer the question. How many hits? They had zero hit. Like it can be a zero hitter. I'm fine with saying like a zero hitter. Like there's

a difference. It's not as a zero hitter. We got zero hit. Okay. It doesn't feel the same and you know it doesn't feel the same. I agree with that. But I got no hit. I get it. I get it. But it doesn't mean it doesn't. It's not real. Max, I want you to do a thought experiment. Close your eyes. I get it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Close your eyes. Just indulge me. Close your eyes. Imagine it's Game for the World Series. The Phillies go out there and they throw a combined no hitter against the Astros. Is that a no hitter? I like, no, no, but I still, but I still, I would like be excited because you won the game and you had a dominant and you had a dominant performance from your starting pitcher,

but I would not feel the same way as if like Doc Halliday went up against the regs and shoved down their dick for nine innings. That's just a different feeling. All right. A follow up question in the gambling cave that happens. Are you standing up being like, fuck yes. No hitter in your fucking face Astros. We don't hit you said like in the moment. Yeah. Okay. But no, but you're not, but it's still not the same. It's still not the same. How many hits? Zero hits. Zero hits is not the same as no hits. If you have zero hits, did you get a hit that game? Negative. You know, when someone asks you, when someone asks you how many hits they say zero hits, we, we no hits. Max, you can win a game by getting

no hit. I get that. Did you get a hit? No. This is dumber than the armpits. All right. Okay. Jake was right. Loki about the armpits. Thank you. Yeah. I made a mistake by thinking about stinking the equation. No, I know that I've removed stinking. I kept an open mind. I was swayed. It's funny because like the comment section for all the social media posts about that, half of them were like, I have no idea what Hank was saying. And the other half were like, Hank is a hundred percent right. Yeah. And then a lot of people being like, this is dumbest debate you guys ever had. It's like, Hey, putty, wait till we start talking. No hitters. Yeah. Not only that, but you missed the fucking free throw

dunk debate. Yeah. That one was the low point bracket. Also the bracket debate we're doing now. It's terrible. It's terrible. All right. Jake's at it. That's it. All right. Let's get to our interviews. We've got Stanford Steve talking brackets. He gives some great tips. He also gives some picks for the first round of action. And then we have Snooki. It is brought to you by our friends at Just For Men. One day beard and brow color is the first temporary brush in washout color from Just For Men, the beard color experts. It's a breakthrough die free formula easily and instantly eliminates gray with natural looking temporary color fills in the thin patchy areas and defines your beard for a thicker

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So check it out, partofmycheeseak.com or order Uber Eats, Grubhub or DoorDash. Okay, here he is, Stanford Steve. Okay, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests, Talking Brackets. It is the man, Stanford Steve. There's no better time than right now, Steve. We're actually taping this on Monday afternoon. These are the longest three and a half days in the calendar year when we're waiting for the games to tip. Welcome. I'm excited. Thank you for having me. This is why it's not the best week of the year because of this time right now. We need something to get in our veins. We don't have it. I'm staring at the bracket and it's staring right back at me in the face. Come on, come get me.

So it's that time. I started to try to do the 32nd bracket where you just see it and you fill it out and I ended up having Memphis and Michigan State with a chance to go to the final four and I said, pump the brakes. Yeah, put it down. You got to assess some things. So that's what I did. I saw that tweet from you. You said that at that point you realized that you had to take a couple of days away to just kind of give yourself some distance at that point, let things marry. Because you get excited. You get caught up in the madness at the start of it. So cooler heads prevail. You have the perfect bracket right now, right? I believe I do. Yeah. I got the one with

the times and sites too, which is information that I think you should look at that I'm sure we could get to because there are a couple of things that stick out in my mind as far as filling out your bracket. And that's why jumping the gun and filling out as fast as possible is not a thing I tend to do. Okay. So two things off that. One is I know Steve, you and I, we had this debate last week, conference championship week that Thursday, Friday, Saturday is the best. It is the best, right? Because you don't have to wait to the times. That was when it finally said in that the Badgers didn't make it because that was the favorite thing. Everyone knows this. If your team's in the tournament most

years, there's nothing better than Sunday night getting the times and being like, I'm going to build my Thursday, Friday around this like, Oh, okay, we play six o'clock on Friday. Like I got to, I got to get myself in a mental spot to survive till then that like scheduling is part of sports fandom that is so much fun being like, all right, we're going to go to this bar, everything. So you tell us, uh, looking at the times and, and, and where they're being played, what jumps out to you? Well, here's the deal. Everybody makes a big deal. And this is why I, I like to let it marinate as you say. And everybody last night's going crazy because Houston got a better seed or a higher one seed than Kansas, right? And

then you look at what happens now, Kansas. Yes. Uh, Ken Palm, I think it's six of the top 20 teams are in the West with Kansas and the West final is in Las Vegas and Kansas city, Kansas people are mad that they're not playing Kansas city. And I don't know if you guys have been to the Kansas city airport is the worst airport in the country ever. And they just got a new one. So I don't know if they're just super excited to see the new Kansas city airport, but like what fan base doesn't want to go to Vegas rather than Kansas city, right? That, that, that, that confused me. And then when you look deeper into the bracket, Houston is the one in the Midwest that they are playing in Birmingham. If Auburn

beats Iowa, they are playing Auburn in Birmingham, Alabama. That's not going to be fun for a one seed. No. So when I, when I look at that and I assess that now I'm like, all right, I think, I think Kansas got the good draw as opposed to Houston. When you look at where you could possibly get go, I mean, who doesn't, I'm going to Vegas for the sweet 16. Yeah. Have you ever done the thing where you go to Vegas for the first like four days of the tournament? Is that fun? Or do you think it's just too crowded to have fun? It's, it was fun. And now it's too crowded because I don't, you know, you guys get your questions asked when people see you. All it is is who do you like and how do I bet it? And it's like, but

I'm not going to the window and betting for you. Okay. Like I'm trying to sit here and enjoy myself with some friends, got a nice setup and you're just constantly peppered with people that are betting for the first time. So it's kind of turned into amateur hour. And that's why I'm putting off a week and going out for the lead date, because there will be veteran hardcoreers there that that are more enjoyable to watch games with. Because you know, that's the, that's the essence watching games together. You guys do a great job in the cave. But I know if I pulled you guys and you said, all right, we get to pick three people that can't be in the cave, you guys will write off three names in a second to

not have to watch games with those three people. Right. So yeah, it's Frank. It's Rick. I'm not going to bring up any names for the record. Nobody tweets screenshots of their bets in the Barstow Sportsbook at Stanford, Steve and be like, Steve, what does the over mean on this bet? Don't do that. No one do that. Also, be suspended if you do that. Also, don't treat out my lock of the day is Virginia. Yeah. Yeah. See, they can't fucking score. Steve, I knew, I knew what you were doing. Oh, believe me. I knew what you were doing. Steve likes to fuck. Oh, and that's why it's fun. Yeah. When Steve tweets out his lock of the day, he's, he's usually betting the opposite. He's just getting people

riled up. All right, Steve, I know that you have always a list of teams that can win the national title according to Stanford, Steve's advanced analytics. So how many are you on the list right now? Now that we have the bracket who I have not eliminated anybody. There was 20. We eliminated three teams last week. Okay. It was Providence. It was Tennessee. And it was St. Mary's. Now, all those teams are pretty high seat except Providence, who has been as bad as, as, as any team in the country. Now they're 11. They got to play Kentucky. They're already off the list. But when I go down and look at teams to win the title that I would say, I think I have to cross off Virginia. I just can't, I can't, you know, what they look

like Saturday night against Duke, who is a team I'm sure we'll talk about. But I just look at the ACC and it's, it's, it's not what a normal ACC is. And that's why I'm not buying this Duke nonsense of everybody picking them to go to the final four. I did Bill's show. He has them in the final game against Yukon, but they, they beat, they won a conference tournament, a conference that's not good. And this is what I'm talking about with the recent C buys. Everybody just sees that. They're like, all right, they're hot. They've won nine in a row. Give me them. That's the opposite. I don't go with that. I go against that. I try and predict who people are going to jump on it. And I think Duke is a perfect example. I have them losing to oral Roberts in the first

round. And the other team, you know, that, that feels like that is, is Marquette to me. CNM in the garden. I got to see Jake. We can talk about Jake's performance at the garden. I was not. I didn't give Jake a high grade. Whoa. Did he not? What happened? What happened? Um, I believe he left two sessions early. Oh no. I went to another conference tournament. Oh, he went to the 10. That's all that's allowed. That's allowed. Yeah. That was the next day. I literally went to Yukon Marquette semifinals and brought my luggage to the garden and then went straight to Penn station and to the airport. Oh, okay. Is that allowed? Is that allowed? No, he left early. What about the day before? What about the day before? I was there.

And when you leave, and then I came back to record part of my take and then I went back. Okay. Yeah. To record part of my two days. You left twice, both days. Yeah. That's not a good grade for me. Just a fact. If I'm going to, if I'm going to participate with no context, that is a fact. Yeah. Well, I get an F minus because I didn't even show up. Yeah. We're not even going to go there with you. Well, I mean, I just, at least PFT wasn't even the, well, I'm just saying I, I'll, I'll stand by the fact that I would rather watch all the games than one game in person. That's why, that's why you got it. Who knows who likes ball more. There's technology, Jake. How many, we had every game up media credentials clutch. Cause I don't have me.

They banned us from the Mecca. They banned barstool sports. Listen, we're the bad boys. They wouldn't allow it. They can't see off the Duke thing. I like where your head's at. Give me a quick, uh, rankings of your power conferences in terms of which conferences you trust to like the ACC at the bottom. ACC is definitely at the bottom. I don't, I don't see anyone making the sweet 16, uh, from the ACC. I'd have to go, oh man, look at your big 10 big cat. Yeah. Like they're, they are represented in every eight or nine and seven and 10 game except two. So I can't, it's big 12 for sure. And I guess the big East and then the big 10, maybe pack 12. I actually think the pack 12 was a little slept on, even though they only have three teams,

three. Yeah. It's, it's, it's basically two though. And I know you guys were all in. I, I know you guys have a lot of futures on UCLA, brutal news with the injury. I still think they could do, uh, they need boner though, the, the big man to make a run, but they got it. They got a tough draw, uh, to get out of this and get to the sweet 16. So, uh, the pack 12, I think has two as strong. I mean, they have two teams that could go to the final four. Uh, the big 12 has more than that. The big East, possibly, uh, the SEC, I don't see having much success. I do have Bama, uh, rolling, uh, through. So, um, I'd go big 12, big East pack 12. Okay. That would be it. Okay. Are you counting USC in the, in the big or are you counting them in the pack?

Well, that's what's great. We got Michigan state USC, future big 10 matchup. He has round. Yeah. I love the idea. You know, you get to see the colors against, you know, you know, to, to prepare yourself down the road. Uh, so I'm counting that as a pack 12 game. Uh, but I mean, it's, it's pretty crazy because USC is a team that nobody really likes to trust. But Andy's been awesome in NCAA tournaments, man. The guys that cover machine. I think there are two point dog now to Sparty. So that looks like a one point loss that they'll, they'll cover. Yes. I actually, now that I'm thinking about it, UCLA winning the national title this year, and then me retroactively counting as a big 10, similar to Maryland, that's probably what's

going to happen. We just get national titles before the teams come to the conference. And what's even worse is on a girls tournament. The last big 10 winner was 1999. Oh, that's tough. I got under seated. That was bullshit. I should have been a one seat. I do like your spin zone of every game that USC plays. It's going to be like, it's going to be like a Rose Bowl. Yeah. That's awesome to see it. Who's the worst team that you think can win it all? If you got 20 teams that are capable. Let's go by seed for that. I have A&M and they got the worst seed of any team, I think. So I would guess A&M, TCU is a team that's scary to me. I think TCU, Gonzaga winner,

wins that region. So I'm going to say the lowest seed that has a chance to win the national championship is Texas A&M. Okay. And you really think they have it. They have enough to win a national title. 20 is a lot, Steve. That's a lot. I know, but it's more about everybody else because look at the point spreads. You know, like there were years, I think it was, what was Baylor, Gonzaga was two years ago. I think Gonzaga was giving like 34 in the first round. I know. I don't think there's anything higher than 22 in the first round. So like right there, you see not the vulnerability of the one seats, but you see a not highly as thought of one sees when you factor in Vegas and power rankings and all that. So I keep the word that

keeps coming up is capability. I think all the other teams are just that capable. Now six games, yeah, that's a lot, but I look at teams that can play six games. Well, you have to win two games where you don't play well. Yeah. That's what you have to do to win this tournament. And that's why I still factor in all those teams because of the, yes, it's of the idea of being when you play well, when the other team doesn't play well, like that coincides with things. So I still have 20 on the list. I can update it if you want. It looks like 19 with Virginia with the draw they have. So I will get you an update at a number. I promise you. Okay. 19's a lot. Yeah. A ton of teams. You have to field. You have to feel who do you personally have futures on? I have futures on UCLA. I had a

future on North Carolina. That's not going to get there. No, don't give up hope. Don't give up hope. COVID, someone get bounced out. Next up. UCLA is one. And I believe I have TCU. Okay. I have TCU right before the, and I will, and I have a future on Yukon. I do have a problem is Yukon and TCU and UCLA, they're all in the same bracket. I actually liked that though. I, because it's stupid, but I'm like, I should get at least one of these teams in the final four. Yeah, you know what happens then. You're looking at Kansas on top and you're just staring at them the whole time as they advance. Yeah. But it prolongs your enjoyment. It means that you get to enjoy, hopefully, probably three rounds like with a vested interest. Yes. Yes. What other tips we got for, for people who are waging

like tried and true Stanford, Steve, this is what I've been doing with the tournament every single year. Don't be an idiot kind of tips. Yeah. There's people out there that like fill out their bracket backwards. I could never do that. I will say, you know, if you like that double digit seed to go to the sweet 16, just pick the upset in the other game. That's wishful thinking there. The other one is these playing games with the 11s. I think one of those teams has made the sweet 16 of the last bunch of years since they started doing it. Yeah. There's always been that. So, you know, it's always going to be the underachieving power five conference except for Nevada because I don't know how the hell they got in this tournament. The way they ended the season

and they kept another big 10 team out for big cat at Wisconsin or Rutgers. Rutgers more like Michigan. Justice for Rutgers. I thought they were in there almost. Yeah. You know, Rutgers probably should have gotten in. That's okay. But that'll fire up Rutgers for football season. That, that, that's what I think will happen. Are we back? Are we back this year? You, you, Shiana, I believe so. A lot of coach changes are good to go. Let's go. That's not going to happen. Okay. Well, give us your, your best picks for, have you, have you put any bets in so far? I know you probably have. Yes. Okay. Yes. Duke to lose. You could go oral money line. You could go oral plus the points, whatever you want to do there. I like that. I do like Kansas State. Montana

State is a team. Scott and I were up late, late last week. He ended up tweeting about it and we were texting back and forth. I don't think much of Montana State's offense and I just like what Kansas State brings to the table. I think it's under double digits. So it's going to be not a pretty game, but I think Kansas State has more capability on the offensive side. So I'd lay the points with Kansas State. The, the, the idea of Patino with Yukon, I think is, is dicey because this is the game for Yukon. When you look at it, this is a team, they don't have a true point guard when they've been good. They've looked like the best team in the country. I think they were the last team undefeated. Jake, is that right? I think so. Oh no, Jake. Here we go. Never mind. I can get

somebody to look it up on my end. Yeah. Yeah. He was probably catching a flight going from Penn Station to LaGuardia to Canada to go watch an American East game. But anyway, but Yukon, the idea of Indiana 76. What undefeated? No, no, no, no, no. Come on, Jake. Come on. We're gonna have to cut this. You're going to have to know it's after this season. The last team to be undefeated was you. I don't know. I believe it was Purdue. Yeah. Purdue because they couldn't pass them. They couldn't get to number one because Purdue was ahead of them. Anyway, I don't think Purdue lost till January against Rutgers. I would lean towards Iona plus the points. I think Yukon wins, but it's going to be tight. And the thing about Yukon and they're seeing their fan base is so great.

Titus and I talked about like he was asking me if they are the Duke of the big East and I think they are because of their arrogant. What did Cooley call them? Spoiled and arrogant. I love that. I thought that was a perfect way to put it. But Yukon, this coaching staff hasn't won an NCA tournament game. Like there's a lot of pressure on them. And then what do they get? Iona in Albany. So that's a fascinating matchup. I would take Iona plus the points. I have Texas going to the final four. I wanted to actually pick up PFT's brain on some Texas war history because we could have Houston against Texas. And now everybody remembers the Alamo. But what was it? Less than a month later was the San Jacinto war. That was like 18 minutes long. I think Sam Houston came in and made it

known for territory. So this is actually what happened. Sam Houston and his gang, they tried to take the Texas Constitution and all the archives from Austin. They tried to steal them and take them back to Houston because that way Houston would be known as the capital of Texas. And Sam Houston wanted that because they were then going to name the capital after him and it wasn't going to be in central Texas. It is. That's an interesting piece of history right there. I think it was actually stopped because some old shopkeeper lady went out into the street and she had a cannon and she saw them trying to steal the papers. She lit the cannon on fire, almost blasted their heads off and then they got caught by the police and had to give the papers back. So that makes sense

because I read the war was only 18 minutes long. So that's probably the war. That's an eternity for Petino though. So with that, that being the last big battle in the state of Texas, we could have Houston against Texas with the right to go to Houston for the final four. I like that storyline. That's big Texas stuff. That is big Texas stuff. Because everybody's just talked about Houston going to the final four and now possibly you could get Texas in their way who is the face of the state, obviously. Colgate is a team that could score. I'm not saying they're going to beat Texas, but I think that's a lot of points. Utah State and Missouri, those two teams don't stop anybody. That could be a nice first round over big cat offer you. Well, I have a new system.

I'm not making a deal from other people. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's not. No, I'm not, I'm not making any picks this year. I'm making only system picks and the system. Oh, so when they win, they win. No, no, no, no, the system. No, that'll be the system. No, I'm just going to take every first half under blindly and hope, and hope I, and hope I go tenant, tenant, no, nine and seven. I take nine and seven all day. The key number there is 65 in first half unders with the number is 65 or more. It's 17 games over 500 in the round of 64 since 2011. Wow. I like that. All right. So that's it. I'm that's, that's the system. You talked about going back to Vegas. That was one, one year. I think we went like 10 out of 11 and then I don't, I don't remember the

rest of the day. That's the system. That's the, that's the, that's the danger in doing too well in Vegas is you're going to get hammered. You're going to have too much of a good time and then you're going to go back to the casino and lose all that. There is no pace in a human to be up from nine AM all the way to the end, two days in a row out there. I don't care. What's your strategy from just like a health standpoint, how do you pace yourself? I don't, I don't, I'm still asking. It's been, I think 10 years. What really helped was, I think in like 2014 or 15 was when like the online apps, and I remember just being so happy, being able to be in bed on Friday still and still firing away on games, knowing what the lines were downstairs. So the key is to have

credit in your account for Friday morning when you wake up to be able to fire. So it also gets dicey. Yeah. This will sound, people will be like, no way you actually do this, but there is another key. It's Thursday and Friday morning. You don't have to go to the gym, but going outside for a walk and getting some air is huge for the mentals. The one necessity I figured out after one year of being there is steam room. Yeah. You need, you need a steam and then they have those huge, the bucket that fills up with ice water and you go to the plunge or whatever. Yes. And you just go in there. Yeah. That's a workout. That's a full workout. It's like you rise, you're right in heaven. Yeah. And then you just go attack, you go attack the day, but I've never, I've never gotten soft

enough where I needed the IV in the room or anything. Like it's pretty simple. Just keep a couple of bottles of PdLight and you're refreshed, get a steam and you're good to go. So good luck to all those people, especially the first timers because you have no chance out there. No. I'm just convinced that if you sweat, if you sweat when you're hungover, then that gets rid of all the bad feelings. Yes. But even before the sweat, you get that itch. You know the itch before the sweat? It's brutal. Yes. Just terrible. Yes. I'm curious to know if you have a platform that you use across the board because when you and Scott do your, your winners in football season, you love taking underdogs. You almost exclusively take underdogs. Is that the same when it comes to the

tournament or are you guys such value hounds that you can look out there and you can see exactly, okay, the lines aren't where I want them to be. I'm going to take a lot of favorites. Well, there's, this is why I'm really upset myself because I do usually take a bracket, fill it out as fast as possible. And then I quit last night because it was too hard. And when I, that's my, that's my go-to when I'm deciding in a game, I just go back and look at that bracket I filled out first and just bet against whoever I picked there. Yeah. That's good. Oh wait. Yeah. But I didn't do it. And now I got, you know, talking to you guys with great minds like you and Jake now, now everything's fluxes in my head. So, uh, I don't have that true essence

of going back and picking up. New Mexico. New Mexico. Oh, okay. January three. How about power five? How about power five? Purdue had to be Purdue. January second ruckers. Well, are we Yukon is considered power, power six? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were January third. Yukon was? Okay. Yeah. Okay. I'm looking at, they lost December 31st. Oh, no. Oh, man, Jake. But Purdue was after Yukon. Jake, it brings me no pleasure, but I'm suspending you from this podcast for 45 seconds. Yeah. Purdue was January second ruckers. I want to say take some time to write Max. Oh, Max is just grinning ear to ear right now. He's loving this. He's loving this. You're going to have to watch the tape. You're going to have to go back,

review the tape, see where it all went wrong. I'll tell you right now. It was probably when he thought he was saying last undefeated team ever. Yeah. Speaking of Jake and pronunciations, I've tried to help him. Jake, who is the three seed in the West? Gonzaga. That's a little better. Okay. It's Gonzaga. Not Gonzaga. I have never once said Gonzaga. If you pull the tape, I have never said Gonzaga. Never. Gonzaga. No, but you just did. Okay. Pull up the tape. We will. Yeah. You just did. Gonzaga my whole life as opposed to what? Gonzaga. You just said it again. Oh my God. Like how you did it three times. I hate you guys. I hate you guys. Watch the tape. I'm trying to help him. Then he gets mad at me. Go check the tape. Jake, I saw it. I'm texting you to let you know

you're wrong. Yeah. I'm trying to help him. Then he gets mad at me. That video, you were wrong about me being wrong. Jake, I'm going to sit next to Mark. Jake, you've experienced five minutes in the life of what it must be like to be Billy. Yeah. Billy's just sitting here like this rules. This is how I always get it. The undefeated team. Yes. The pronunciation thing. No. Well, I mean, you did say it three times because I was telling you what I didn't say. Right. But then you said you didn't say it. You're Mike Francesa right there. Oh my God. Never said that. Never said that. Jake, Jake, who's Arizona State playing in the playing game? Nevada, not Nevada. There you go. Smart. I'm going to say right now, pronunciations are for pussies.

I say whatever I want. Nevada, Nevada, Gonzaga, Gonzaga, Oregon, Oregon. I don't care. The Klaus. The Klaus. Yeah. There you go, Billy. I'm back on your side. Yeah. If they understand what I'm trying to say, that's your fucking problem. That's true. That's true. That's a good point. You can't be palatable of it. If you know what word we're saying, it doesn't matter how we say it. Bam. That's the facts right there. Yeah. All right. I was Billy doing with the all you can eat. Now he's slimmed down a little bit, but that's mostly from the tick infestation that he had. Yeah. He had a really bad infection that was not an infection. It was an allergic reaction. He's not contagious, not contagious for the record. The rash is still

normal. That's why the office was a ghost town when I came in Friday. Yeah, dude. Well, look at this, Steve. I want your live reaction. I'm going to text you. You can't tweet it, but that was really here. That's what Billy looked like on Friday. I just sent you the picture. I'm looking better now. Jesus. It was bad. It was bad. Oh my God. His dog works at the flea factory. It's tough for him. It's tough. Careful you're putting it in your mouth, Billy. What were the, uh, we were, oh, we were in, we were in the rest of your picks. Yeah. We got sidetracked there in a great way. What other picks? Um, they've already bet. Oh, that I've already bet. Let's see. Let's get that sheet. Uh, I took Charleston plus the points against San Diego

state. Yeah. Talk to me about that because everyone says Charleston's lucky. They barely win games, but you like that. You just fade in the mountain West. I do that. Like 40% of their shots are threes and I love that in a tournament because if those guys get hot, that's, that's the ultimate underdog right there. And San Diego state, I mean, listen, the mountain west, they've lost, as a conference, they've lost eight straight tournament games. That's another thing. This committee and their love for the mountain west put in Nevada and it just boggles my mind. San Diego state's on the list. They are on the list, but I think Charleston keeps it close. Um, and that's the list to win the national title. They were the one mountain west team, uh, but they

got a tough draw. I feel like the injury to Virginia, uh, makes that line against Furman. I feel like people just hate watching Virginia play. So they're going to bet against them. I'd be careful there. Uh, cause I don't think Furman is going to dictate tempo and Virginia does a great job with that kind of stuff. I, I saw people pick in Santa Barbara. I don't, I don't think they're that good. Uh, I still think Baylor's battle tested in the big 12. So there, and where's our Vermont? Jake, how many points we getting there? All right, Jake, here's your redemption. 11 points. Okay. How's our, how's our guard play? Guard play is good. They've got Robin Duncan, the fifth year, Finn Sullivan. Is that kid that worked on

Wall Street for a year? No, that's Matt Veretto, Yukon. And then, uh, he took some time off. I think he's 23 or 24 now. He made four threes in America's championship. I like that. Also, it's a revenge game against Chaka smart and Marquette because Marquette, they ignored Jake when they were walking off. Yeah, but I left early. So it didn't matter. That's what Jake, that's what Jake was leaving early PFT. So that's why there was no comeback. Speaking of Chaka smart and Marquette, uh, do you, how do you rate Chaka smart's ability to play defense from the coach's box? Cause he was on the fucking floor. Elite, elite. It's unbelievable to watch these coaches. Uh, I think Shrewsbury at Penn state, that guy's on the core all game. Chaka goes from

three points. I mean, he'll even give you to hand up. Like when, when it, when it got, when they got the ball, when he's down on his end and he can't be in a, in a wide stance because the defense is on his own end. It's amazing to watch the fist pump he gave, uh, was, was pretty impressive. And I will say this about Chaka and all my years ago in a tournament, when you went, when you're the first game and you win, you know, you go do the press conference, you go back to the hotel with your team, get some family time and you send the assistance out to scout the next game. Chaka came back out with his staff and watched every single second of a, a, a Yukon in Providence. And I've never seen that before by a head coach. So I was pretty impressed by that.

It was, it was good to see that a head coach will hang out with his assistants in public in an atmosphere like that. But I just Marquette going, that's a team like I'm, I'm trying to predict going against it. They won a regular season. Um, that, you know, they were picked ninth. I don't know if you saw the, the Kola story. They asked the media that what, what you think of the media picked me a ninth and he said, fuck them. And that's how they break their huddles now. Every single time they, they get together, it's one, two, fuck them. So collect a lot of attitude. I'm not a fan of the gray socks he wears that there's a little PFT ish to me. I feel like PFT, if he was a point guard would go gray socks, but Marquette, I would go giant bias.

Yeah. I figured you would. Yeah. Um, but you don't want to hide those biceps. Now you're slimming trim. I just love, I love the look every year. We get one or two all-time big baggy undershirt guys in the NCAA tournament. And so I'm just excited to be better than the ones next time they play together. If they do Luca and Kyrie, they got this like white mocked turtleneck thing going underneath. It's terrible. It's like matching. It's bad. That's cute. Yeah. That's cute though. Yeah. Uh, okay. So talk me out of NC state because I've been thinking about having NC state maker. I know you hate the ACC. My counterpoint, they got that 300 pound dude and he's fun to watch. Love the beast. Love the beast. I was not that impressed by Creighton

seeing them in person. I still think there's some holes. Defensively, uh, Coughbrenner is a, a mountain of a dude, really good athletically around the rim. So protected. The problem is, is NC state has guards that are going to shoot threes and they are not afraid to shoot pull-up jumpers. And what's Creighton going to do? I think they're going to play some of that drop coverage. Uh, so if NC state's on, they're going to hit that. My problem is that guard match up against Baylor. I feel like Baylor would overpower, uh, NC state's guard, but NC state, when they are good, they could be anybody in the country. Uh, but I, I'm interested to see how they play because they're going to get open looks. It's just, that's why they're an 11 seed.

They are not consistent, consistent, offensively, but when they are good, they are darn, darn good. Okay. Couple more, uh, you know, I also lost to Clemson three times this year and Clemson didn't get in. Yeah. I was, I was saying that last night that it, Clemson fans have every right to be pissed about that because they, they worked them in the ACC tournament. Um, I don't like betting unders, but Arkansas, Illinois feels like a brick fest to me and, and everyone's going to say, oh, these two teams are very talented. They are Arkansas just loves to go to the rim. Illinois can guard against the rim. Uh, in Illinois, Arkansas's one weakness in defense is the three in Illinois. Can't shoot threes. I, it's a brick fest rock. I, I, on top of that too,

Musselman is, is a great in game coach. He's going to micromanage the hell out of that game to try and get that match up against Kansas in the next round. I do feel like everyone is picking Arkansas. That's what scares me. Yeah. Uh, but I do like your call on the under there. Arkansas be coached up on the perimeter D and, you know, Meyer is, is hot and cold to me. Shannon, I mean, early in the year they beat UCLA in Vegas. He was the best player in the country that night, the way he played. So again, eight, nine, you're going to get your power cop power teams that have underachieved this year. These are two exceptional examples of that. So what, what is, what do you have for a number there? 144 and a half. I think I guess played in the

sixties, but I think that game. I don't see both teams scoring 70 early. That's early. That's, I like that. Yeah. That was the one that popped out to me again. I hate usually like, I, I try to do everything to not bet unders and I saw that and I was like, I just don't, I don't think both these teams are great shot making to your point. Maryland, West Virginia, that opened at 140. I took that under. It's already down to like 138. I think you're so sharp. Oh, 139 and a half. So you're not that sharp. Good. Jump in, jump into pool with me. What about Furman? That's my, that's my upset of the, of the first round. Am I an idiot? Am I falling for the, the hype of them just gunning threes and being able to do that over the pack line? I have one question for you. Yeah.

Do you hate watching Virginia basketball? I, well, I do. I watch the Badgers play basketball. So that's why you like Furman. Yeah. So that's, I be careful. Yeah. No, that's true. That's a good point. All right. Yo, you're right. Here's the deal with the Virginia pack line. Yeah. Like Duke, Duke makes, Duke made threes the other night and that packed line. Guess what it has to do? It has to come out, right? And guard the three. So Furman, it's on you to make some threes and you get them on off kilter. So again, I worry about Furman dictating tempo there. Virginia does a great job with Kia Clark who's been there for God only knows. I think he played it with John Karate. Okay. So I'm going to talk myself out of that. I like that. All right. That was good

because these are, I feel like every, every thought I have right now is just a stone cold loser. So I need to just flush it all out of my system. That's why I like Steve's method. It's like get the knee jerk reactions on paper and then you have something to look back at. That's as close to fading yourself as you could ever get. Right. Because otherwise, if you think about fading yourself, then you start to fade yourself, fading yourself. Yes. And then you're lost. Yes. Then you're completely fucked. Yes. Then your dog chasing after his tail. Yeah. Can you tell me, Steve, why I'm a moron for still believing in Purdue? Yeah, let's talk about Purdue in that region because Purdue to me, they seem like Zach Eadie seems a lot better when we watched him

last year in person in that Purdue Wisconsin game. He seemed like he was, he was like a newborn. I think I said he was a newborn horse trying to ice skate. Like his feet didn't work correctly, right? He's growing into his body. He's learning how to control it. This year, he's more fluid. He seems like great players. Some people are saying that it all depends on how he's officiated. That makes a big difference. If he gets a couple of fouls early, then Purdue is entirely fucked. But am I insane to think that Purdue could actually make it to the Final Four? No, no, not at all. And to me, it's about what lies ahead. Everybody's going to bring up Painter. One of the worst beats I've ever had involved Purdue the year against Virginia. I had

Purdue Moneyline and that one really, really hurt. They had the ball with, they had to lead 1.5 seconds and the ball was on the other end of the court and somehow Virginia got a shot to tie. Anyway, Memphis and FAU, those two teams, the winner of that game, they don't, Purdue has to have to play both of them. They play one. Whoever that team is, is going to pressure Purdue's weakness. And the weakness is experience at the guard position. They play two true freshmen and you saw that catch up with what happened at the end of the season with Purdue. Yes, they have Edie. You talk about last year seeing him, he's a million times better than he was last year and that's a credit to him for getting himself better. So I think the key to Purdue is

what do those, the wings do around them? Are they making threes to pull guys away? Are the fresh regards taking care of the ball and making shots where they don't get automatic double teams? Because that's, that's where, Edie's going to get all the focus because of the size of him and he is the player of the year. I get it, but he really needs his other guys to play better because that's going to help him make things easier. The one thing I have is what does, whoever makes it to play Purdue in the sweet 16, now you have a week to prepare for it. Now you don't have a seven, three person, I'm guessing on campus that could come in and practice to, to help with your look on the look team. But that, that's where it is because now the pressure's up

and now your guards have to go do it again. But I, I have mayhem in that bracket. Like I said, I have Michigan State going to the final four there. So it's not really something I want to put money on, but I would love to see Purdue. I think it's since 1980. I didn't realize Gene, Katie didn't even go to a final four. But 1980 is a long time and it's a great fan base. It's a great story. I always stick to the world of painter. I know he hasn't had success in the tournament, but he's a good coach. They'll be, they'll be ready to go. It's just a matter of, are they going to make enough outside shots to win these games? And Titus brought up a good point. It's, it's also how Zachity gets officiated. That's a big part of it. That's a huge part of

it. I noticed that, you know, you said that you had oral beating Duke in the first round as one of your upsets, but if Duke makes it to the sweet 16, they could be playing against Purdue. Duke has some seven footers too. Yeah. Purdue played them earlier in the year and gave it to them. I believe it was in Mackie, but yeah, Duke's a different tee. I still think Edie would have his way with it lively just because of how frail. I mean, he's done a good job of shop blocking, but this is where you got to stand on the post and take dribble after dribble as the Edie backs you down. It's a different animal than, you know, playing help coverage and where you're helping where somebody gets beat and you're coming over to block a block, a layup. That, that'll be a true

test because I mean, they have Ryan Young too, but I just, I would take Purdue in that matchup. I liked, I liked the idea of Edie against the, those, those bigs for Duke. Also, we talked about Iona briefly at the start. We, we selected Iona. We are a, we are a Rick Petino podcast right now. We've always been a big supporter of Rick. We drafted him in the barstool challenge where you have to take, you have to pick an underdog and if they win two games, the winners get to go to Ireland, all expenses paid vacation. So we're riding Rick Petino. We're riding him hard. So I, I, I think he can beat Yukon and then second round, I feel like, I feel like Yukon is a much tougher matchup. Obviously like St. Mary's is five seed VCU at 12. If Iona wins one,

they win two. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Yeah. St. Mary's VCU is a total contrast of styles. I actually looked at that over a big cap because it's the lowest total, I think it's 122. Yeah. And I just feel the way, the way VCU plays up and down, St. Mary's is, is methodical, but they do make shots. Yeah. But I think VCU will dictate that tempo and make that a higher scoring game. But back to Iona. One thing for you, PFT, Walter Clayton, their high scorer, football guy, turned down numerous D1 offers to play college football. Wait, he's their, he's their leading scorer. Then he's not a football guy. Walter Clayton. No, he's, he's an anti, he's an anti, when you have a, when you having pussy, what was it with John Gruden? Anti football pussies. Yeah.

Yeah. Anti loving football pussies or something like that. Yeah. He's the Walter Clayton man of the year though. Yeah. But, but when basketball guys get football guys to come play them, they claim them as football guys. Got it. But yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like it gives them a talk, like it gives them a toughness. Yeah. The opposite of the Antonio Gates situation where all we'll be saying is like Walter Clayton played football. Yeah. He played football in high school. Yeah. Yeah. Is your, is your screen not real? Is that not what's going on right now in Washington, DC? It just, it just blacked out to a TV for a second. I think it's just permanent traffic. Those cars are stopped on the bridge. BSD knows about that traffic. You don't, you don't want any part

of that. No, that's definitely DC. I can see Billy walking up the steps of the Capitol. Yeah. Right now with a wolf mask on. All right. I have one last question, Steve. It's a robot question. RHOBACK.com. He's code take. I'm not answering unless I get my gear. Okay. All right. Jake, make sure you get his gear. I saw him wearing it at the biggest tournament. Text, text Steve, get his address. I bought that. Let's get him. Yeah. Let's get him some gear. This will write all the wrongs. RHOBACK.com. Use code take for 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, hoodies, polos, everything. RHOBACK.com. All right. Give us your final four. You can change it so you can give us any final four you want. And I want at least one listener

to take exactly what Steve says and then either tweet him saying, fuck you and I will retweet it or treat him, treat him saying thank you at the end of the tournament. So I want one person to basically ride with Steve and you will be accountable for their bracket. Do your best. This isn't yours. This is someone else's. Yeah. You could do a different pick. Like give them to your best. Take out Michigan state. That's the dumbest pick I've ever heard. Do why I'll bet you right now. They're not going to go to the final four. All right. They're 18 to one to win the region. Okay. Great. All right. You give me 18. Yeah. All right. Done. 100 bucks. Okay. I'll give you $1800. You got it. You give me 100. Deal. I love that. All right. Alabama,

Michigan state. Oh man. Oh man. I can't pick between this TCU, Gonzaga game. Oh, TCU and Texas. Wow. All right. So one person is going to fill that out. And that would be there. Yeah. No, they are. I will. I'll be that one person because now I got to go against my own action because if Michigan state goes to the final four and be so pissed, I'm going to be so fucking pissed. If Michigan state loses in the first round, I think that kind of vindicates everybody out there that's saying the time is it was overrated though, right? Yeah, some people are saying that. Some people are saying that for seven years. That's another part of the Yukon fan. Like that is so bad. Is they were wearing shirts this week in New York that said

January, February, Yukon, April, like Michigan state has had that saying for 23 years. And then Yukon just decided to do it. And also Yukon hasn't won a game in March that meant anything in years. Probably since the national title. And also April is the national title. Correct. That shirt is stupid. It basically says that you're not going to get to the final four. I just hope that it's not a Barstle shirt. Danny Hurley also said that Yukon owns the MSG and he's never even made it to the biggies final. So that was like the biggest thing. I fucking hate Yukon. I fucking hate Yukon. Max was stewing with that in his face. Like he almost didn't talk about five different times whenever Yukon got brought up. I have a future on Yukon. I like the

Huskies. I like Danny Hurley. Max is wrong. Wow. I mean, they own MSG and he's never been there. He's never been to the final. So how do you say that you own MSG when there's one team that clearly never mind. I won't. I won't. No, you already did. I know. There's one program that clearly owns MSG right now in the big east. Yes, we had a down year, but it's certainly not fucking Yukon who hasn't been to the sweet 16 in nine years. I love it. Oh, that's Max. That's a passion. Yeah. Yeah. That's anger. It's been a tough year for Max sports wise. He either either doesn't get into the into the dance or his team's finished second. I have the odds on Stanford, Steve's, Steve's final for Alabama,

Texas, TCU, Michigan state plus 193 500. I'm going to put that in. Whoa. 100 wins nearly 200 grand. All right. I'm going to put that in for a hundred bucks just in case you can't go all chalk. That's no fun. Yeah. I have Memphis coming out of the region. Who? Memphis. I'm an idiot. I have been playing. I have been playing Michigan state. Oh, there you go. All right. So we agree on that. I got one more question for you. Why do you hate Kansas? It seems like you absolutely hate Kansas. I love Kansas. I just feel like this dynamic with coach is going to be around. I think the world of them and in order to make another run, they need him and I don't know what's going to be the status of him, but I feel like I think Yukon is a match for them. I do think, you know, Kansas with the

guards, but I don't hate Kansas PFT. I have them actually losing in the lead eight. Sounds like you were debating between Gonzaga or TCU to make your final four. Yeah, because they're going to play in the second round. Okay. And then you were also saying that Arkansas, you wouldn't want to fuck with bus bus. So I was just cleaning it up. I was giving you the opportunity to speak around on Kansas. No disrespect, but if Bill Self's not going to be there, you're not betting on it. I mean, the lead eight is still a good season after a national championship. No. Yeah, I guess it's okay. That's the bill self special until he won last year. Oh, look at you firing in from the top row. All right. Well, Steve, thank you. Hold on one

second. Yeah. Yeah. I need a guarantee for PFT. He will be down here for a NFL game. The people need it. The beer snake. The beer snake was amazing last night. DC defenders four and oh top of the table. My former team. I will be down in DC for a game this year. Yes. In uniform. You can book that. I think they confiscated my uniform. I think that got sold at auction. So the rock probably has it posted up in his basement somewhere. I don't have my old uniform, but I've got Cardale Jones Jersey. So yeah, I will be there in a uniform drinking beers, adding to the cup snake with you at Audi field this year. 100%. All right. Feed the snake. Love it. Love it. Sorry for letting you down, Steve. Oh, Jake, I got a quick memory. Like it's it's behind me. Yeah. Let's get a Vermont

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Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, personal hero of mine. It is Snooki and she's here with our colleague and her best friend, Joey Kamasta. Hey y'all. So you'll hear him as well. Snooki, you are a personal hero of mine. That's amazing. I love reality television. I always, you know, I remember watching the first Jersey Shore and be like, Snooki, that's that's how I want to live my life. Yeah. So yeah, you are it. So you have the new Jersey Shore is coming out January 26th. Yes. Family reunion. Did you think that in what has it been? 20 years? What is 15 years? I'm not that old, bitch. Well, 2009, it started. So almost 15 years. Do you think you'd still be doing this with like these, these people and going on family reunions?

I mean, no, I thought it was only, you know, the six, the six seasons. And then that was it. Like, I had my kids, I was married. You got divorced? No, I'm still married. Oh, you said I was married. Don't put that in the universe. No, you said I was married. All right, got married, had kids. She was married too. Yeah, she was still married. Yeah, same shit. But then all the reboots started happening with like all the older shows. So we were like, Oh, maybe we'll come back. And then we came back and we're still freaking doing it. And it's I mean, I would imagine like, you know, I'm old. Checks not bad, though. I mean, yeah. Yeah, I got three kids to feed. So it's nice. Right. Yeah, right. I got to be completely transparent. I'd never watched the Jersey

Shore. Oh, it was not. That's okay. I'm not offended. It's not a knock against you. It's not a knock. It just sometimes you miss things. And I just missed it for whatever reason. Well, you should really watch the first season. I know it's good. It's the most important cultural thing America has ever given to the universe. Yes, I'm sure it's amazing. I will go back and I actually live at the Jersey Shore in the summertime. So like, I understand the appeal. I was in Asbury Park last summer, spent some time down Belmar way too old for Belmar. Yeah, you are. Yeah. Yes. At what point did you know like, okay, I might be aging out of the Jersey Shore because it seems to happen to everybody where they're like, I can't go out to DJs every weekend

anymore. No, I think once we wrapped season six because I was pregnant. So I was like, I think all this shit is done now. Like I have to be a mom. Yeah. You know, like, of course, I have my times where I go out and I'm still fun. But I mean, that's when I knew my life was changing. Yeah. So if you could describe what happened in the Jersey Shore, give me like 30 seconds and say what happened from the start to the end of Jersey Shore. Like the first season? Yeah. Give me like spark notes on it. It was trash. The house smell like sacks and cigarettes and vodka. There was dirty panties everywhere and not ours random peoples. I got arrested on the beach. I got punched in the face by a guy. It was fun. Okay, that's pretty much sold. Sold.

What about the note? You didn't mention the note. Oh, yeah. And the note. Can you explain that to PFT? Because it's an iconic moment in television history. Yeah, I wrote an American history, historical note. Yeah. And I pretended I didn't write it, but then she found out and then it was a big, it was a big fist fight. Yeah, Ronnie and Sammy Sweetheart were dating and Ronnie was kind of maybe not doing things he should be doing. You cheated on Sam. He cheated on Sam, yeah. Snicky is a snitch. You were a snitch. Wrote a note. I was friends with both. So girl code and I didn't want Ronnie to beat me up. So I wrote a note. But you wrote the note as somebody else. So it wasn't you snitching. It was somebody else. No, me and Jenny wanted to write the note on a

computer because we didn't have electronics. So they, they, I thought that Sam would have thought it was a producer because we don't have a computer. We don't have a printer. Right. But, um, yeah, that didn't go over. So yeah. And he broke them up. I mean, that was, you know, well, he cheated on her. Come on. Multiple fat women. Yeah. Yeah, that is true. It was breasts. With grenades. You call them grenades. Yeah. I mean, was there when you guys are doing the first season and then it comes out, um, was it did kind of blow your mind though, like that everyone was adopting the culture that you guys put out there? Like the, you know, cabs are here and grenades, all these. We had no idea that it was going to be more than one season. So I went because I always want to be on real

world. Like I knew I want to do reality. Same. Same. So I tried out and never got called back. But then I got calling all Guido's and I was like, it's me. I'm orange. Like I could do this. So we only thought it was going to be one season. And then they're like, all right, let's do it again in Miami. And then they were talking about switching up cast, but they were just going to keep me in Pauly and then bring new people in. But that didn't happen. So then we kept doing more. And I'm like, oh, shit, I think this is a thing. Yeah. Yeah. It was. And when you watch it, were you like, I always am curious how reality television, uh, works. Like I know that there's obviously some things that are manufactured and it's not all real, but no,

it was pretty. It was all fucking real. At least the first couple of seasons. Yeah. All six seasons. Oh really? Yeah. Even this new one. Well, this new one's kind of different because we don't actually live in a house and it's not rigged. So you're not seeing everything. You're just seeing like random dinners here and there. Got it. When we shot those seasons, we were in a house 24 seven cameras everywhere for a full month. So you got to see everything. You didn't need to make anything up. Right. Yeah. Right. And I remember when it came out, there was, there was some blowback. You guys got some pushback from like the Italian. Unico. What was it? The Italian people were mad. They were. But I was like, bitch, I'm not Italian. Yeah. You're Chilean.

But we never, they stereotyped you. I mean, we never all like said, like, hey, we're Italian. And it was just like, I guess Guido was very derogatory for them. But to us, it was just like a lifestyle. And it was, it was like being emo or being like a rocker, you know, we're Guido's. So did you feel like that? Did you feel like these, what is it, Unico? I think that's what they went from like trying to fight for Columbus Day to then just going after the Jersey Shore. Yeah. That's crazy. It's anti-Italian discrimination. So how, how would I become a Guido then if it's not like an Italian stereotype, if it's just like a lifestyle? Yeah, I mean, like a quick step by step, how I would turn to. So back in the day, you would need to obviously tan your little bit pale.

I am. That's right. So we would, we would cut that hair also. And we would do a blowout. And then you have to wear a lot of like bejewels and hearty shirts and all that. Okay. I'm in. All that shit. I could be talked into going Guido. I think you could do it. And how long have you been friends with Joey? Oh my God. Since he's in two of Miami. So 2010. How'd you guys meet up first? He's a freak. Yeah. Well, we know that. He treated me like I was like this like fashionista Paris Hilton when I first met him. And it wasn't the case. Carol Streep when I met her. Like 7am. And I'm that, that was season two. So I was still like 21, 22, like no kids yet, whatever. So I rolled into this photo shoot 7am from the club smelling

like alcohol, like, you know, coming down and I'm like, I need another shot. I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna freak out. So he was taking shots of me at 7am. And that's when I knew like, this might be my soul, my soul brother. And are you, are you soulmates? Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You are. Oh, wow. Yeah, we're definitely the same person. Okay. So if you share a brain, Joey, what do you think about the situation speaking on behalf of Snooki? The actual guy situation? Yeah. Like, and I think that he's, we love him. I think he's great. I think he's the most improved out of anyone in the whole cast. Most of he wins MIP. 100% player. Yeah, most improved player. Yeah. Okay. Would you agree with that Snooki? Yes. With Joey's

assertion? We're talking about Mike, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's a totally different person. Yes. And a good way, but he still has this like, bullshit drama shit that he does with us. You know, like, he's just sober. Like, he's not taking drugs, doing it. He's still a shit starter, but he's just sober and he needs well. Yeah, he's just not. I mean, him in the, in the neck collar, crying is just another iconic moment. That was his rock bottom. Yeah, he was. What are you, he tried to fight a wall? Was that what? Well, he didn't want to fight Ron, so he just ran into the wall. That's right. That's right. Yeah. He had a neck collar. Yeah. That's a good way to get out of a fight, though. Yeah. One thing that, that always people forget,

I think, about reality TV is that when you're filming it, if you're in a house type situation, they don't let you watch television at all. You can't. No, you don't have anything. You can't read even. No, you can't read. You can't write. You can't be on a phone. So you don't have your phone for like a full, a full month, but we would sneak our phones in. Yeah. So when you're, when you're taping, there's like, how do you, you don't find any, like you're not watching sports on TV? No, so like, if God forbid, like the president died, we would have no idea. What happened when Laden got shot? How did you find out bin Laden got shot? When was that? Oh, 2011. Were you filming in 2011? I don't think we, yeah, but I don't think it was the time when he got shot.

Okay. I don't remember. Yeah. It just seems to me like it'd be very boring to be in a house with no television. I guess. Well, that's why all we do is drink. And then we had that fighting, hooking up. It's, yeah, that's all there is to do. When you go to the bars, are you, are you allowed to talk to that, like other people there and say, what's going on? Who got thrown off the show? What's going on over here? Yeah. But I mean, at that point, we didn't care what was going on. We were just drinking and having fun. Yeah. Wait, which was the girl that you hated Dina or? Dina's my meatball. Oh, Angelina. Yeah. Angelina was a horrible brat. Yeah. Yeah. And she came on the cast what season two and you guys just iced her out. Yeah. She was there

season one. She left and then she came back season two and then she left again. So that was it for her. Yeah. The worst. Nobody got along with her. Yeah. Yeah. She just was a bad person or what? Yes. Yeah. Okay. She wasn't great. She missed out on the cash cow. She did. But that's her problem. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, um, I've seen you talk about your mom three, three kids. Yeah. Three kids. What are you going to do when they start watching? They already see shit on TikTok. And? And I said, mommy's an actress. Oh. So then what are you going to do? I say that's not real. What are you going to do when they are smart enough to realize that's not the truth? I'll just be like, mommy was a shit show. Yeah. I mean, what are you going to do? Yeah. I mean,

I have two kids and I wonder like what's going to happen when they look up, you know, all the shit I've done. It's going to be interesting. Well, it's like I did most of it, all that shit basically when I wasn't a mom. It was like I was just living my life guys. Yeah. Like I'm teaching my kids not to judge. So that's good. They won't think I'm a shitty mom because of it. Well, like when they, when they, you know, like are drinking in high school, you're not going to be able to be like, don't drink in high school. I mean, because you like, mom, look at, look at you getting arrested on the Jersey Shore. What are we talking about? I don't even want to think about that right now. They're only 10, eight and three. So give me some time. Yeah. I want to stress

about that. Yeah. Okay. Was there ever any jealousy on the show? Because from what I know about Jersey Shore, you were, it was very evident that you were going to be a big deal even after it was over. You were like one of the big stars. Was anybody ever upset that, that you were getting all the shine that's like Snooki's really taken away from my, my camera time on this show? I don't think so. I mean, I personally never fought for camera time. Like let me sleep. You guys want to do you go ahead. I want to sleep. So I don't think so. And no one's ever said it. But I mean, I'm sure there was times where we were all like to each other. Do you know what happened to the deleted footage, you know, the stuff that

they couldn't air on TV? Does that ever cross your mind? Like somebody has that. MTV has all the sex tapes. Let me tell you. Oh, are there any rules that you sign off like they're not allowed to do anything with this? Are they kept under lock and key? No, we didn't have rights like that. We had zero rights. See, if I were you, I would be nervous that that one day somebody's going to put out this mushroom tapes. I mean, I think it's illegal to like show all that shit. Yeah. I mean, they signed something, but they showed a lot on the show. So it is what it is. They did. But I mean, like naked wise, I don't think you could actually show a snake. Aren't you always under the covers though? Or are you at some time you throw them off?

Yeah, you throw them off because it's so hot. Oh, no. And like you want to be under the covers because the camera's right there on the bed. That is I mean, once you're in the moment and you're drunk, you just love is love. I mean, me and Gianni have some tapes on there. Yeah, love is love. Did you ever like, were there any guys or girls that got brought back to the house and they're like, wait a second, there are cameras in the room that we're about to do it in. No thanks. I'm out. No, because they knew what they were doing. Yeah. Yeah. And those girls didn't give a shit. They just wanted to have sex with Pauly D in situation. Yeah. Who who came to your wedding from the cast? Everybody, but Mike. Yeah, Mike, because we weren't speaking. Oh, what happened

there? And then he was just like still getting off the drugs and he was fighting with everyone. So I didn't want him at my wedding. Got it. And then me and Vinny were mad at each other because he was doing stand up and my whole his whole thing was making fun of me. What? And I'm like, you got no more material. Like you got to throw me under the bus like that. So I was mad at him for a little bit. So he didn't go to my wedding. And then Angelina, obviously, I haven't spoken her in years. And who's is everyone back for this new season? Is everybody but no, Ron's not because he's still working on his shit. Yep. And then Sammy refuses to come back. Yeah. Which do you talk to her at all or no? I've been trying to reach out and I'm like, you really need to

come back on the show. Like even if it's just a dinner with us girls, people want to see you. And then all of a sudden she blocked me. Oh, she blocked you? I don't know what I did on social media and phone. Well, no, I haven't reached out to her because I get the hint like you blocked me and why am I going to reach out to you? Joey, do you have her number? I have her number. Yeah. You want to call her? Oh, let's just call her right now. Let's call her right now and see if we can get this figured out. Break history. I mean, I'm good. She doesn't want to speak. I'm not chasing her. Come on, call her Joey. No, I can't. She'll yell at me. No, why? It's not you. Chase, there's Joey. Yeah, Joey's gonna go. Joey, call her and be like,

have you seen Snooki recently? I can't find her. I'm worried about her. Yeah. Yeah. I got her kids right here. Joey, Joey, this is gonna be great. This is gonna be great content. No, I'm not calling her. Yeah, no, Joey, you are. You give me your number. I'll call. Okay, you'll call her. Yeah, I'll call her. From my phone. Yeah. Okay, should he? Nick? I mean, I don't think so. Oh, no. Sorry. It's not that big of a deal. Of you guys not talking, even though you're best friends? Yeah, I mean, we were very close. It's sad, but I mean, that's a good decision. I want to see you guys get back together. Well, that's on her. Yeah, that's true. You've done all you can do. Literally. Yeah. All right, I like that. I can

be at peace with that. That is weird behavior. She would block you. Yeah. Like, I mean, I can imagine like one day, like I just I wake up and I block memes. I'm also like 35. Like, why are you blocking me? Yeah, cool. Yeah. So I don't even want to chase it. Yeah. So all right. So the how many more seasons are we going to do? Well, we're starting to film again. Oh, in like two months. I like this. Just keep on. I'm tired. You are. I would like to have like some sort of break like we stopped Thanksgiving. And now we're already like shooting and gearing up for another trip. And where's the shooting? I don't know. They don't tell us. Okay. And now have you thought maybe like transitioning to like the next stage of reality television doing like Real Housewives? Did Real Housewives

of New Jersey kind of steal your guy's shtick for a better word? No, I don't think so. Are you tight with any of them? Totally different shows. Do you know any of them? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, they're nice. They're nice girls, but I just did Andy's show. And there was like a little drama because everybody wanted me on Housewives and he was like, nah, I'm good. And I personally wouldn't do Housewives because those bitches are dirty. Yeah. They are mean. Yeah. Grimy. It's all about drama. I don't want that. I just want to have a good time. I did always appreciate that about you is like it did feel like you weren't one of the people who's trying to, you know, backstab people just having a good time. I literally just want to have a good time and go home. Yeah. So Housewives is not that.

That's a great mantra. That is good. I want to have a good time and go home. Yeah. Go sleep. I appreciate that. You, you've done some other stuff though. You did Dancing with the Stars, right? I did. You did Celebrity Prentice. I did. Oh, it's terrible. And you did WrestleMania. I did do WrestleMania. So out of those three, what's your biggest accomplishment? WrestleMania champion? Yeah, WrestleMania first, then Dancing with the Stars, because those were two amazing experiences and apprentice I freaking hated. Why? Because work? Well, no, I was away from my kids, so I didn't see them for like two weeks straight. So that killed me. But also everything was so serious. People were backstabbing each other just to win. I literally walked in the boardroom.

I was like, the show ain't for me. I got to go. Was it? Was it Schwarzenegger or was it? It's Schwarzenegger. Yeah. How is he as a boss? Amazing. He's so cool. Yeah. He's iconic. It is funny though that on Celebrity Prentice, they just trick everybody to going into an office and working for them. Yeah. It sucks. You're working. I wasn't into it. Terrible job. That would be weird though if you did go on Housewives and then your friends from the Jersey Shore showed up and it was like a crossover episode. That would break people's brains, I think. It's like, wait, these characters aren't on this show. No, it'd be crazy. They're on a different show. Yeah. Is there something that people come up when they see you on the street and they're like,

hey, Snooki, and they say one thing that you're really sick of them saying? You look so much better in person. That's fucked up. I'm like, cool, because I'm a fucking frog on TV. Yeah. I get it. No, but I get it, because on TV, we're drinking, so you're not looking your best. And Joey's not doing my makeup. Right. You know what I mean? You need him there. Yeah, we're just like trashy on the show. I mean, I get it, but I'm like, thanks. What does your husband think about your reality television career that you keep going out there? Is he supportive? Yeah, I mean, it's hard for him, because obviously when I leave, he's with the kids. Right. So he's like, just know that I'm doing my best at home. I support you,

but it's a lot for him. Yeah. Because he's home with three kids. And does he watch every episode? No. None of them? No. Really? He's just like out of sight out of mind? Yeah. I don't even watch them sometimes. Yeah. I mean, it would be tough to watch yourself. Well, it's hard because my kids sleep with me and they're always in the bed. So like, I don't know if I'm like drunk and cursing, or you know, like doing a cartwheel and like something happens, you know, like I just don't want my kids to see that. So I don't watch it. I watch it on my phone, so nobody sees it. Got it. You've been around reality TV for so long. Do you have a sixth sense of when something's happening, when you're doing something, and you're like, this is going to be gold. They're

going to love this later. Yeah. But I also know, like when I say something, and then I'm like, shit, this is going to be a thing. And then it snowballs into a bigger thing. And I'm like, oh. And you can't, you can't ever tell them like, hey, cut that out. No, we don't have to say. Never. Nothing. No. That. I mean, it's nice now because we just, this season, we were like out dancing and like, I guess my nipple was starting to come out. Okay. And usually that would keep that. But Sally Ann, the executive producer came up to me, she goes, I'm just going to cut that out for you. Okay. And I'm like, thank you. Nice. I don't, I don't want that. Yeah. Yeah. So like silly things like that. But like back in the day, you wouldn't have cut that. No change.

I think they have respect for me at somewhat as a mother. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let's cut that nipple shot out. Have you thought about like, nipple protection, how to, how to make this not happen? I mean, I should be wearing nipple pads. Yeah. Right. I don't know. Yeah. I'm old. I don't do that shit. All right. So Joey, tell us something that we don't know about Snooki that would shock everyone. Be nice. Oh, she's a psychic. She's the medium. She talks to the dead. Oh my god, Joey. Here we go. Here we go. Can you, can you guess the number between one and a hundred? No, that's not how it works. And we meditate and lay on the floors and when we're fucked up in rooms, and she'll, she'll make me talk to dead people. And it works. It works. I was,

if someone walked in under us, he had meditation music on. Oh, we look like we were in a club. You're laying on the floor as their eyes crack. It's like chanting and stuff, trying to talk to the dead. But no, she can really, she can like be in a cab and say, does the word, the name, this mean anything to you? Stop! Oh, god. No, it doesn't work like that. Do you talk to dead celebrities or just dead normal people? No, I've never tried to do that. Do you know Tommy Sorter? Can you see how he's doing? That's not how it works. I'm not like an actual like, yeah. I'm not Jurassic Puto. But think about, like maybe when you go home tonight, just give us, tell Tommy we're thinking about him. Who's Tommy? Tommy the Sorter. Literally, anybody could do

without him. No, well, yeah, he was a friend of ours. He was a former Dodgers manager. He's old, but we'd just like to know like, if he can infest fights in heaven. All you have to do is like, clear your mind and meditate. I usually meditate in the sauna and that's when I like start to feel things and then I'll like text, I'll text someone. Like, does this make sense for you? And then it's actually like one of my friends, like uncles who passed. Anybody could do, you just gotta meditate. So can you just hit up Tommy for us? Or just like, can you tell us? I don't know how to do that, though. Is there just fine Tommy? Like, I'm just starting out. Yeah, no, just read about Tommy, find Tommy, just be like, all right, next time I'm in the sauna, I'll be like, Tommy, Tommy, the

boys for part of my take want to know, want to let you know that like, respect. I'll try to talk to that cat named Tommy as well. Oh yeah. So I might get confused that it's my cat. You know what, if it gets to the cat or time of the sorter, I'm fine. As long as the message gets set to Tommy. Yeah. You can figure out. Can you just like, can you pause for a second and think, is there anybody in this room that we might be connected to that you can channel their spirit right now? That's not how it works for me. Does it have to be hotter in this room? No, I actually have to meditate. I'm not like an actual, you're an idiot. I'm not an actual. I think you are. I think you're just underselling it. No, I'm just, I haven't practiced it. Please don't talk

to Joey that way. Yeah. Oh, he is an idiot. It's not an idiot. Okay. You don't know I'm no long. That's very true. I did see a clip of Joey making an appearance on the Jersey Shore. Oh yeah. He's been banned. So why is he banned? Can I tell them why? Yes, tell them. I do it here all the time. So he came to Vegas. It was like a couple of seasons ago and we just had a blast, so much fun. Like we were up till 5am. It was like the full episode was just me and Joey. But he got banned because he was so wasted. He kept grabbing the cameraman's beachies. So yeah, so he was like getting, he was sexually harassing the crew. Yeah. Got it. And the producer had to come up to him and say, Joey, you cannot do that. Yeah. He can grab cocks.

Yeah. So ever since then he hasn't been invited back. Well, I've been invited back, but they keep a distance. Last time they made me dressed in a turkey costume. They didn't, and they didn't made me wait in the car until I was ready for my performance. Yeah. He sat in a costume for two hours. But I got tipsy. I started grabbing, you know, just grabbing the guys. Grabbing it. Yeah. You do that to Billy all the time though. Oh no. And he doesn't have a problem with it. I know. That's why I, that's why I sell here. You can get canceled for that now. Yeah, you can get canceled. Yeah. You shouldn't do that. You gotta watch yourself. Yeah. I gotta be careful. But that's why I thrive here. Are you shocked at the Jersey Shore like as a whole hasn't gotten

canceled? I mean, back in the day, we did some not okay shit. Right. On like saying things and just a different time now. Yeah. Totally a different time. Yeah. Yeah. Was it, how crazy was it when you're making, I saw a report, I don't know if it's true, but it said $150,000 an episode when you're like 21. Yeah, that was back in the day. It was somewhere around that. So it's more now? That's, no. But I mean, if you're 21 and your life is going out, partying, going back to your house. Getting paid for that? You're making that kind of money. It was a blessing. What do you spend money on? No wonder everybody hated us. If you're making 150 grand per episode, what do you spend your money on as a 21 year old? What kind of, what's the stupidest stuff?

Well, I, luckily I have really good parents and my dad basically invested all my money. I hardly spent anything. I mean, I bought like an escalate truck that was like my biggest purchase, but my dad took over everything. Thank God. Yeah. Those trucks were awesome. Speaking of which, how many, how many car accidents have you been in? Well, you saw the one in Italy. They caught the brakes. I swear to God, because I know how to drive stick. I know how to drive stick. I swear one of the producers did something because we're, you know, you're not speeding. You're going like 50 miles an hour in Italy. But of course I hit the cop car. I swear that was my fault. Okay. Oh, I hit a deer once. Okay. I know. Did it die? Yeah. It's not bad. Not bad. I'm not a terrible

driver. Okay. When you hit a cop car. I feel like there was moments that you were a terrible driver. No, I'm sure back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. Now I drive a minivan and I'm amazing. Yeah. Okay. What did the cops say when you hit the cop car? That's like my worst nightmare. The first thing they, well, they were swearing in Italian and then right away, they gave me a breathalyzer test and I'm like, fuck, what if I'm still drunk from last night? Oh, because I didn't drink that morning. But I'm like, oh my God, if I blow something, I will be stuck in Italy. And you didn't, though. No, I blew zero. Thank God. Hell, yes. Because that happens to people. Yeah, you wake up. Like, you're driving to work the next day, you're still drunk, and you blow something, you get a DWI.

I wouldn't think Italy had that. They drink wine with lunch there. I would think it'd be a very, not the drunk, but legit driving. We still can't drive drunk. Yeah, but I'm surprised that you both are. It's a cultural thing. No, they did it right away. And Paparazzi was getting it. I wanted to die. You probably blew zero point zero and they're like, well, she's American. Get her out of here. I mean, do you know when the paparazzi is around? Like, those pictures of you getting arrested were iconic. I don't even remember that day, so. But so, can you tell, though, when you're like, oh, I know paparazzi's behind me? Like, I can feel it. Oh, yeah, back in the day when we shot, there was like thousands following us, like the Kardashians. Yeah. It's like, what is this?

Damn. I hated it. That's pretty awesome, though. Yeah, it's cool. Being that big of a deal. All right, well, this has been awesome. Yeah, it's nice. I can stay here all day. Yeah, I mean, maybe talk to that deer that you killed. Oh, my God. Stop. That's kind of fucked up. No, I don't think I killed it. It ran away. Oh, yeah, I'm sure. I think I broke a little limb. I'm sure. Yeah, with your fucking Cadillac Escalade. I'm sure that deal was fine. No, it was my Honda that broke down. Oh, God. Well, yes, Snooki, thank you so much. It's been awesome. Everyone check out the new season of Jersey Shore and Joey. I'm gonna watch season one. Yeah, I'm gonna sit down. I'm gonna make it. You're gonna love it. Can I do it in a

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you run the, it's a risk of spreading that contagion of you being negative and bummed out and you can bring down the rest of the boys or girls at the party. You just got to, everyone has to find their own way through March. Yeah, you got to, well, first of all, money management, responsible gambling, like that. Like you got to know, like, hey, you don't want to be, you want to be able to be around for the whole four first four days. So make sure that you got that in your head when you're, when you're putting in those first bets. But yeah, I would say a timeout is important. Everyone needs a timeout. Maybe take a quick walk, maybe go grab something to eat and then come back. Here's, here's where, where, where it really lies.

If you're like hanging out with your guys and you lose your bets and you have no money to bet on and then you leave, just think about the next 11 months when you wish you had that moment where you could watch the tournament with your boys. So you just got to mentally reset and then realize it's bigger than you. It's bigger than any of us. This is March. The tournament. It is the tournament. It's the perfect bracket. Hey boys, love the show. Big thanks for all the laughs each week. We're doing a bracket challenge with my dad's side of the family and my aunt and uncle who are retired by the way, claim they're too busy to fill out a bracket. How can anyone be too busy to fill out a bracket? Please advise. That's bullshit. It takes 30 seconds. It takes, you should just

make them, you could not fill out a bracket in 30 seconds. You want to bet? Yeah. All right. Time me. Yeah. Wait, do we have, where's the pen? There's a pen right in front of you. All right. Tell us when and talk during it. So the people three, Jake, you talk radio. Three, two, one, go. All right. So first four tonight, pit, Mississippi state, tomorrow, Arizona state, Vada, big captain PFT, 10 seconds in. I can't do this. Jake, who do you have in the bus? Okay. You're right. 10 seconds in. I have great. Who do you have? You're right. You're right. I got Utah state. You're right. You were right. I'm riding Utah state. Credit credit to Hank. You can do buskers. You can do one pick a second. Yeah. Credit to Hank. He's right. Three minutes. You

can fill out a bracket. Sup fellas. I was able to get myself a long weekend, but unfortunately still have to work during day one of the annual spring basketball tournament. What is the proper way? I'll call it. What is the proper way to bet while at work? Should I bet all on yours? Because I won't be watching the games as much and how long, how many long bathroom breaks can I take to sweat out games before it becomes suspicious? All right. A couple things. If your work is actually monitoring you these days, quit. That's crazy. You should be able to at least have it on the screen while you're fake working. Yes, Unders is a great call because no one wants to watch a game when you have the under. I took the Unders on Sunday, Championship Sunday. I didn't watch

those games because it's torture. Every shot that's made, you're like, I'm losing. I would just hammer all the Unders and hope you win a bunch of money. Yeah, I would. I would do every under except for the one game that you have on on your side screen that you're paying attention to and then bet the over on that one. I call movie Unders. Whenever I go see a movie, I'll just load up on Unders knowing I'm not going to look at my phone for two hours, come out. Hope you won. Movie Unders. Sup fellas looking at the slate for Thursday and Friday. What is the miss the game and get up and go do something slightly productive so I don't feel like a lazy piece of shit game? Those are the games that are always awesome. There isn't. That doesn't. There's no individual game. There's a

30 minute gap that you can walk your dog. We're putting a PMTV out at that exact 30. Okay, perfect. Yeah, because I remember I used to do that. I'd take when before we were doing streams and I was just watching, you know, with friends or at a bar, I would be like, there's a 30 minute gap that you can basically go take your dog out and then be right back. It's like between like 545 and 645. Yeah. And they play like two, they play back to back episodes of impractical jokers. Yeah. That's when you take a break. The way it works is each site has a day session and a night session with two games each. So they have to kick everyone out of the arenas and reset. So 430 is the last day game and then 650 is the first night. So you really don't have

time. Yeah, because that's a soft 432. Correct. 30 minutes after the first one goes to double over time. It gets pushed back. But do remember to walk your dog. That is important. Your dog will understand if you don't know. It's March. No, just, I mean, when I say walk, it's just pee poop. Open the door. Yeah. All right. And last one, a sub PMT long time listener, first time texture. Wondering if you can walk us through the etiquette of betting against either your roommate's bracket pick slash Alma mater. One, is it acceptable to do two, should you tell them three, should you chirp the whole game? Four, is there any line you shouldn't cross in this high-tensity situation? High-tensity? Wait, what was the scenario again? Is that a word?

It's basically asking what's the etiquette for betting against your friend's bets. I would say that you don't want to be vocal if you're betting against, you're allowed to because this is March. It's every man for himself. Correct. It's tough. So go with what you want to do. But if you bet against your friend's Alma mater, then I would keep that quiet because that's a little bit different. But if you like, you can bet against your friend's bracket, obviously. Yeah, people will try and shame you for betting against them or make you feel personal or make it feel like it's a you against them thing when it never is. No, it never is. You should not, you know, don't let them shame you. Don't let them feel bad. You should. There is, okay, a couple rules here, I think. If it's

great value, it's great value. I think everyone gets every day of March madness. If you're gambling with your buddies, everyone gets a must win game and the must win games do trump everything else in terms of you can bet against the must win game, but just get in line in terms of how you, you know, you're demonstrative about it because if someone has a must win game, that means it's very important to them. I also think there's rules in you can't don't be the guy who says they had the pick in the last two minutes. If you're like sitting, if PFC and I are sitting next to each other and he's got Alabama and I have who the fuck is Alabama playing or let's say he has Maryland and I have West Virginia and he's like, I got Maryland. He's rooting for Maryland all game

and then West Virginia wins in the last two minutes. Like, Hey, I had West Virginia. Yeah, don't be that guy. I would, I would also let it be a known, let it be known. I would add to that. Don't don't, if you're in a position where you're not betting on a game and let's use that same example. And then before tip, big cat says, I love Maryland. Don't hear him say that and be like, I'm actually going to take West Virginia. Don't last minute. That's the wait. Don't wait for somebody to say what they are betting on. And for you to be like, wait, I actually like the opposite of that. I'm going to bet on that. Don't deliberately fade your friends. Fading happens. Don't let it happen naturally. If you have a system because you love your friend, follow the system, follow the

system. And you're, but if the system is fade, big cat, you got to follow it. Oh, okay. I had a system fade the hungry dog. I'm a fucking millionaire. I didn't actually, I bet it every single time. It lost every single time. Not sure I won. No, it didn't. Oh, yeah. The technicality one. There's like one game a day where you're very vocal about it. Yeah, I'm like, I need this. I need this. I need this game. You got to refer it. This is the game I need. And if you have the opposite side, that's fine. But just know I need this game. But yeah, look, it's tense. I will, I will just be on the, I'll be a proponent for one thing. If you can find one bet that everyone can get on, it is so much fun. Yeah, it is. We're going to actually do for the streams this year.

We're going to do a new, we're going to try something new where I think there's like seven or eight of us streaming. And we're just going to go down the line. So let's say Hank is first. Hank's going to pick a game in the early slates. Everyone in the, on the stream is going to bet it. If Hank wins, he gets another pick. If he loses, we go to the next person because there is nothing better than everyone rooting for the same thing in March Madness when chaos happens. Those are the memories that you take home and you like close your eyes. You're like, remember that? Remember when we all hit that? Jelly Walker. Jelly Walker was an all-time memory. Yep. And there was only one person in that room who didn't have it. Posco. Yeah. Have fun with

your friends. Enjoy it. And remember, everyone ends up losing anyway. So it's the memories that we take with us. Those are the important things. I had one other thing. What's more likely making a perfect bracket or Hank getting the lottery ball number? We're getting the water ball number. 9-0. Yeah. You know what? Warren Buffett's doing his, his billion dollar challenge. I'll match. Yeah. If anybody has a perfect bracket, I like that. I'll match. It has to be uploaded to whatever website Warren Buffett uses. Yeah. I like that. I'll match that to you. You're going to double? I'll double it. What are we giving? A billion dollars. No, they have to. I will give away a billion dollars. I'll double. What happens? I need seven numbers. Not legally binding.

Mr. Porter, we'll see you. I already lost. There's always like that one or two, those one or two people that have a perfect bracket through like the first round or two. Not, nope. Not worried. Billion dollars. Those are fun though. I remember 94, 95. I went 16 for 16, 15 for 16 and I was like, this fucking, this is the best. Then you're chasing that. And then I never, yeah, no, I've never even come close to that. I got this figured out. Yeah. And I'm sure if I looked back, it was probably like the most chalky tournament of all time. It might have been, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm never going to ruin that memory. Did you guys used to run bracket pools like back in school?

I used to, my dad used to just, his office had a bracket and he would let me like put in and it was always the best. Yeah. It was the absolute best. How did you keep track of like who won? I would highlight. Yeah. I would highlight the correct way. I ran a pool in high school that got so big that like the school basketball coach and everybody except for the main principal, all the administrators were in and then the principal found out and she threatened to suspend me for being a bookmaker. Yeah. And then I had to give up the guy. It was tough because I was, I was the bracket guy. Everybody knew come see PFT if you want, if you want to get in this pool, but once it reaches like, you got to lay a little bit low. You got to be under like once you start

getting into fourth $5,000 bracket pools in high school, you need to take a step back. Yeah. My dad used to also go to Vegas like every couple of years for the first round and then I would just get to make bets through him and that was awesome too. No idea how I ended up how I am. All right. Hank, have you ever gotten the lottery ball number? Nope. Numbers. 17. Billy's been grasping this mic stand forever. Well, I've been getting cucked lately. So what'd you guys start playing defense? I guess 17. I'll guess 88. 18. I'm gonna go with 44. 20. One time. Would you say, Hank?

Since 17, Hank? Since 17. 36. So close. Not even close. Love you guys. Dear Antlin, who's the highest rate by GF. Still learning, life is okay. Take on me, take on me, take on me. You