Pardon My Take - Brandon Marshall, Sean Payton Leaves The Saints, MLB HoF Continues To Suck & FAQ's

Episode Date: January 26, 2022

Sean Payton is leaving the Saints (00:02:29 - 00:08:49). Bears hire a new GM and we are still buzzing from Chiefs/Bills (00:08:49 - 00:17:14). MLB Hall of Famer voters refuse to put Barry Bonds into the Hall and its stupid (00:17:14 - 00:27:26). Hot Seat/Cool Throne (00:27:26 - 00:46:34). 6X Pro Bowler Brandon Marshall joins the show in studio to talk about his career, what makes good coaches, the intricacies playing Wide Receiver and more (00:46:34 - 01:31:18). We finish with listener FAQ'sYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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I've been on the field. I've been on the field. I've been on the field. I've been on the field. I've been on the field. Incorrect. Sean Payton has stepped away from the game, for example. Retired for right now.

For right now. I'm like 90% sure I can predict what's gonna happen in the next two years for Sean Payton. Amazon. Amazon. That's one possibility for right now. Also, they might put him in a booth with Drew Brees and have him do their little thing together

and be like, hey, we're the saints. Tell Drew Brees how to actually do analysis. Yeah, be the person in Drew Brees' ear telling him everything that he should be doing on TV. He goes in the truck. That would be great if Sean Payton just took like $125,000 job to be a producer in the truck. Yeah, that'd be awesome.

Yeah. So I think he's gonna step away and do that for about a year. Amazon. And this translates to Mike McCarthy currently being the most fired head coach going into next year already. Or Mike McCarthy is the lamest of ducks right now. Yes. Because he knows that Sean, this is Sean Payton's job.

I'm first reporting it right now. Mike McCarthy has been fired as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys. Exactly a year from today, minus two weeks. Yeah. Or bring Sean Payton home to the Bears, which probably won't happen because I think they were trying to trade for him.

And Sean Payton also, I think, told Ryan Pace in 2016 or 2015, whenever it was, don't go there. That place is a disaster franchise. But obviously, whenever Sean Payton, the rumors start for the Bears as well, he probably will go to the Cowboys. You're right. Yes.

But it will be very weird not seeing Sean Payton on the side line for the Saints. And I hope, I hope this doesn't mean James is now losing his job in some capacity. That'd be very unfair. Jimbo Fisher to the Saints. It's probably more likely that you remember the end of any given Sunday where Al Pacino walked away

to start his new franchise with his franchise player, Jamie Foxx, Willie Beaman. That might be what Sean Payton said. He might be trying to find the perfect situation where he can set James Winston up to succeed in two years. I'm in for it. James Winston, Dallas Cowboys quarterback. Oh, buddy.

There's not enough prime time games in the season for that to happen. Love, love, love that. But yeah, it's going to be weird. It's going to be weird not seeing Sean Payton out there. He was, what? He's got to be the third most tenured. It's got to be Belichick Harbaugh Payton, right?

With their team. That sounds right. Off the top of my head. That sounds right to me. Jake, check that stat. Andy Reed's probably up there too, which is crazy. Yeah, but not all the way. Mike Tomlin is probably up there, right?

Mike Tomlin is up there as well. Belichick Payton, Tomlin, Harbaugh, Pete Carroll. Okay. All right. So it's close. I've got the top three wrong order. Just quick stat here. The Saints without Sean Payton, 244 and 361 with Sean Payton,

152 and 89 in the regular season. He's a good coach. Pretty good. He has over half, well over half, of the Saints' entire collective history of wins just in his tenure there. And then obviously nine and eight in the post-season. Pretty good. Not bad.

And then I think without Sean Payton, I don't have the number for him. I think they're one and four without Sean Payton. Makes sense. He is the best coach in their franchise by a large, large, large margin and a very, very good coach. Should we do the Sean Payton Hall of Famer question? Sure.

Well, you can't tell the story of New Orleans. Well, you can't tell the story of football because he did change some rules by under his study, having people try to kill Brett Farve. Yeah. Without Sean Payton, we don't get to Sean Payton, Kevin James, Adam Sandler either. Yes.

Yes. So, yeah. It was, I think everyone kind of thought it might be coming. Our Saints insider, please credit him, Ben Mintz, said that he had this news on Friday. So they told TFT that. Retroactively Friday. He did tell me that on Friday.

He came up to me. Ben Mintz, you might know Ben Mintz, if you're not familiar with him already. When I do the Patrick Mahomes voice, that's just Ben Mintz's regular voice. Correct. Correct. He came up to me.

It's voice brothers. He came up to me and he goes, at PFT, I was working, you heard of the sources for many of your people in New Orleans that Sean Payton might be out in New Orleans next week. And I was like, I have not heard that, Ben Mintz. He's like, there's not talk.

And so he did tell me that on Friday. He established, Hank heard him say that, right? Yes. Yes. Pretty much the exact same conversation. And yeah, he called it. Ben Mintz says, he is the king of New Orleans. Yeah.

So please give him credit. How have you guys not talked about the retweet heard around the world? Which one? Schefter. Oh, he retreated. Rappaport. Whoa.

Just give it up for sportsmanship. I can change and you can change. Maybe, maybe Schefter's thinking, you know, I'm going to be leaving ESPN soon. I can start giving a couple back here. Do you think Schefter lets Rappaport break the news that he leaves ESPN? Ooh, that would be spicy.

I will bring Leroy back from the dead to break the news about Schefter leaving ESPN. Adam, let me know. He might be co-workers with Champagne at Amazon. I think Adam Schefter. I think Amazon's going to just hire everyone. I think Adam Schefter's going to go do business with some casino and he's going to hoard

all the information, set the lines. Fucked up. It's going to be very fucked. Most importantly, though, it is birthday week. It is birthday week. You're a part of my take. So next Sunday and Monday. Right.

Me and Big Cat's birthday. I was wondering if maybe to celebrate our birthdays and basically the end of pretty much dry January, Jake, you, Billy, and Big Cat wanted to go out for maybe some margaritas or something this weekend. This weekend? Yeah. Yeah, you three.

Could we do it Thursday? Yeah, we could do it Thursday. Oh, why, Billy? What do you got? Well, hey, I was just saying like Hank and Liam aren't allowed because they're not content. But us four can do it. Billy, you got the whole team.

Us four can do it. You got something, Billy? You got something this weekend? We don't know about? Some big plans? It's been a long-standing plan. Oh, OK. Sorry.

All right, so you won't be joining us for our birthday margaritas. Could we do it on Thursday? Sure. Just as long as those two don't come. Yeah, I'm also out. We're not allowed to hang. Yeah, I'm not going, but you guys should go.

That's miserable. That will be, don't get too drunk. The Bears got a new GM. So the Bears got a new GM, Ryan Poles. He's about to be announced. Pretty much the news there is that he's from the Chiefs. Chiefs have good players. It's never been a bad thing for the Bears

to hire someone from the Chiefs staff. And Chef, or sorry, not Shepter. Greeny dropped a fucking fire, fire joke on this hiring. You say it like you're surprised that Greeny would say something like that. He said, if the nameplate on the office door said Ryan P, they won't even have to change it. That's a good joke.

Damn. Damn, you got new. Because everyone has. You got new from orbit. Everyone has their name plates be the first name last initial. Ryan P. I could actually see the Bears doing that, though. Ryan P. Ryan P. I would die for Ryan P.

They also had McCasky go to O'Hare and pick him up. And it's like, look, he cares. Like, you know, this is the things are changing. You know, but I don't. Whenever you hire a new GM, it's basically like you have to be in the league circles to actually give an assessment. I hope he's good.

I hope he's good. And they're going to do the same thing they did with Pace where they hire a young GM and then an old coach and like Jim Caldwell. Was he involved at all in the drafting of Patrick Mahomes? He was. I mean, you know, he's been with the Chiefs for a very long time. It's crazy how like one guy, Pat Mahomes,

can make everybody around him so much money. And let them all look like geniuses. Absolutely. Because they absolutely nailed on that one pick. Yes. But they have. I mean, the Chiefs have a lot of like talented guys. They've they've they have a very, very talented roster.

They do. But without without Patrick Mahomes, like it's easy. It's easy to be a great wide receiver or tight end when you have Pat Mahomes throwing the ball. They're granted the chicken and the egg. Yeah, those guys are really good. Kelsey would be good anyways.

Tyree Kill is obviously a special guy. But they they nailed credit to them. They nailed the picking the selection of Patrick Mahomes. So and they also you'll get your own Patrick. The Chiefs do do deserve credit for revamping their entire offensive line in one year. Because that is like it is kind of crazy when you think about it. Like last year they went to the Super Bowl.

They lost in the Super Bowl. He got his ass kicked and they just they figured out a way to get a whole new offensive line. I'm not rooting for any injuries, but Kyle Long is waiting, active, ready to get in. I rewatched the game on Monday night. It was on NFL Network and I still with with two minutes left at the two minute warning, like as I'm watching it,

I still didn't really understand like I knew it was coming and I still didn't understand how it was going to happen. Like the fact that the bills were celebrating with 13 seconds left and everything that happened after Gabriel Davis scores his fourth touchdown. I like I know I watched this, but it still doesn't make sense to me. It really doesn't.

That the end of that game is just crazy. I it's as good as football gets. It really is. I saw I did a lot of watching of all the alternate camera angles and all like the viral content that came out right after the game was over because I didn't get a chance to do that as we were recording the show. Because there's a lot of stuff that happens. I saw Patrick Mahomes like sprint over to Josh Allen.

Just give him a giant hug. That's the first thing that he did after they won that game was he ran over to Josh and just just held him. These guys respect each other. And he was like, we're going to be doing this a lot. And like goosebumps. Yeah. Goosebumps.

I hope that they are. It is really crazy to say. I mean, you never know what's going to happen in sports. You never know what's going to happen in football year to year. But to think like we might have gone AFC for 20 years, Brady Manning with Rothlesburger and Rivers mixed in there. And it might be Mahomes Allen with Burrow and Herbert mixed it. Like it's it's it's awesome Lamar Jackson who we've all forgotten Lamar Jackson

because he was injured for half the year. But it's the leagues in good hands. That's all we're going to say. We're going to get sentimental. It's in good hands. Can I just say that like this probably isn't going to happen. And I feel almost bad putting it out into the universe. What if the Ravens moved on from Lamar Jackson?

Why? Why he got hurt. They got rid of they got rid of his offensive coordinator. I think I think they're going to stick with them. I'm just saying I think they're going to stick with them. Just saying. We'll keep it. We'll keep an eye on the situation as it develops in Baltimore.

OK, so you you actually have sources or you just. No, this is complete and utter reckless speculation. I don't I don't see it happening. He just wanted to be. I just said keep an eye on it. Yeah, we're going to say Billy. AB wants to play with Jackson. Oh, OK.

Well, that's I mean, that's that's kind of what Antonio Brown has to do at this point. Just pick one guy and just like I want to play with him to to to make it seem like hey, he's fixed as he really wants to play with this guy. And that would be the only way he gets back. I mean, how sick would have been though if Antonio Brown had been on the bills? He I'll bet you he feels like a real idiot not going to Buffalo. Yeah, that that team. That's going to be in the Chiefs with Antonio Brown.

I didn't realize Gabriel Davis to like he's locked up for another year. They're going to be they're going to be fine. The bills will be fine. They have some decisions to make. It does suck whenever you lose front office and coaches, which they will lose some of that. Like they already lost someone from their front office. They'll probably lose table.

Brian Dabel. The Bears will probably hire Leslie Frazier. So it's yeah, it does suck when that happens. That's just part of success. You really think the Bears are going to hire Frazier? I just think they're going to get some stupid. That would be very stupid. Yeah, well, that's I mean, that's what they would do.

I'm actually fully sold in on Dan Quinn. So Dan, I'm back. Dan, I'm back. I love the guy. I think that Dan Quinn could work if he if he went to a place that had a solid quarterback. Like that's that's what Dan Quinn does. He does defense.

I don't trust him to make any in game decisions. Let him run the defense and let him be like let him be the raw, raw guy. I'm ready for him. I'm ready for Dan Quinn. I've come all the way around. It would just be a nice the nice thing to have. I also just want to throw out there. I'm now at I've listened to like four or five Packer podcasts.

It's it gets worse with time because it's the the realization that they're going to have to blow that thing up is is very, very fun. So they are. I think they are. I think Roger's probably going to have to. He's probably going to go somewhere else. They're Denver. You think Denver?

Denver. They have legalized mushrooms in Denver now. That's true. OK, so Denver for Aaron Rodgers. You sure about that? I actually am sure about this one. The Wisconsin one. I was way off.

But I mean, listen, our fact checking on the show is you Google something. And then if the giant words come up on the front page of Google, that's what you go with at that point. So they don't have recreational marijuana in Wisconsin. That was a mistake. Yeah, Billy. I think they have religious marijuana. They have religious marijuana.

So that's type. The Rastafari's are half my first. Seriously, I heard it. All the Rastafarians. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's near Wisco. What? I've heard you. You're Madison.

Yeah. Wisco. I'm pretty sure you get. We lost the church in Germany. Yeah. Where did you hear this? Which church? My buddy goes to Wisco.

So your buddy goes to Madison's like, hey, I can get it legal when you're. If you're on a college campus and you can't find weed. You're a cop. You're like, what are you? What are we talking about here in the church? Why wouldn't you smoke in your apartment? I have no idea. I'd actually like to talk to like a college kid and who can't find weed.

You're like, what's what's wrong with you? So there are some churches in Madison that distribute marijuana as a sacrament. Yeah. That's that's the religious. But Wisconsin city officials are also trying to stop them from doing like. But that would be a Christ. Like, yeah, you can get weed. That's what Rastafarianism.

That's one of their sacraments is they they smoke a lot of pot. That's like it's a Jamaican religion. Is your friend really though, like it's so sweet here. We can go to this church to get weed again on a college campus. You just tell me about this. And I was like, what? Why can't you just go to probably like the guy next door to you in the dorm to get the weed? Right.

It's a good story. You can just start a church and haven't give you whatever. I'm going to start a church of beer, cocaine and ska music. There we go. Sounds like a bar. Yeah. And winners. Give them winners.

Yeah. And sports on TV. It doesn't count because it's it's religion. You can't count losers. Yeah. No, I I literally just made a bar. Yeah. Yeah.

Where you can do with private bathrooms for cocaine. Yes. There's a confession. Yes. The other story, news story we had besides that because we're obviously waiting for championship Sunday, which we're going to have Julia Nettleman on on Friday show. The MLB, the Hall of Fame, Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens officially not in. I think they go off the ballot now.

And we had Tom Verducci pop up and pen an incredible piece of work. It's beautiful. He's he said in this in this piece. He said talking about Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens not getting the majority, the 75 percent majority to make it into the Hall of Fame. He said, in fact, for the past six years, most voters believe bonds and Clemens should be in the Hall of Fame. A majority is not enough.

That's the beauty of the process. That's like the that's not the beauty of the problem when a majority of people and everyone who watch them play think they should be in the Hall of Fame and a bunch of fucking loser, old writers are holding it up. That's basically the worst process. You're just grabbing the Electoral College. Yes. For baseball.

Yes. Yes. It's dumb. It's really dumb. Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer. He's the best baseball player of all time. You could say that Barry Bonds should be the first. If you were to get rid of everybody in the Hall of Fame,

Barry Bonds should be the first person re-inducted into the Hall of Fame. I just don't understand the the hypocrisy is is is so blatant with these fucking writers and Tom Berducci at the top of the list. Like you you vote. I looked it up, right? So amphetamines and greenies, which are just talked about openly and basically talked about in like a poetic way where people say, oh, remember the days when we just would take speed to hit baseballs and people like, oh, those are performance enhancing drugs.

I mean, Daryl Strawberry once said, when you take amphetamines, the ball looks so big. It's like you could hit anything. They also the innings pitched. This is my favorite because I know Tom Berducci has voted for some of these guys. There was in in. So there's 300 innings pitched, right? Has not happened in like basically the last 30 years. And it spiked innings pitched 300 innings pitched in a season.

They had in the 70s, 60s and 70s and early 80s, like there were guys pitching 300 innings on the regular because of amphetamines. It coincided with amphetamine use. And those guys are in the Hall of Fame and I have no problem with it. But then they talk about the steroid error and they sound like such losers. Oh, yeah. Not to mention the fact the steroid error literally saved Tom Berducci's job. So it saved baseball in the mid 90s.

Baseball was dead after the players. Was it a strike or a lockout back in the 90s? It was a lockout. It was a lockout back in the mid 90s. They played half the season. And they brought in replacement players and baseball was dead. The fans were pissed off. They didn't want to be around for the millionaires versus billionaires war.

They felt like they were used. What happens over the course of the next three years? Oh, yeah. Mark McGuire starts hitting the moon with baseballs on a regular basis. Brady Anderson knocks 50 home runs in a season. Sammy Sosa and McGuire summer saved baseball. Tom Berducci probably wrote a million articles about how incredible that story was. He probably got a contract, a new contract from Sports Illustrated,

based on the fact that baseball popularity was booming and he was a baseball writer. Yeah. And now he's basically saying these guys don't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame. Even though Major League Baseball has not stricken any of their records. Well, I would also like to point out that those guys never tested positive for steroids. They never got suspended. They never got any all their records stand. So what are we doing here?

They're the best cheaters of all time. Barry Bonds. You can make the argument. Barry Bonds is the best cheater has ever existed. Not only is he the best baseball player that ever played, even before he was taking the juice, the cream and the clear, Barry Bonds was a Hall of Famer. Then he started cheating, but he started getting away with it.

Yeah. Never got caught. Not a single time was his piss flagged. He was only named in certain reports by people as someone that received steroids or received. Also his head got really big. And his head swelled up to the size of a four ball tire. I don't think that you can hold that against somebody if they never actually got caught for it. Well, they got away with it.

It's crazy because Major League Baseball, all their records stand. They stand and they never got suspended. And yet a bunch of fucking old baseball writers are getting to play like Judge Jerry Executioner on baseball history. The whole thing makes me laugh because those guys saved baseball, steroid users saved baseball. All these writers wrote about it. They talked about how incredible it was, the most incredible summer of all time.

Now we're 25 years later and the same writers are essentially trying to ruin baseball by being old, stuck up assholes about a sport that needs younger audiences. It's a very specialized skill more so than any other type of journalism to be a baseball writer. I feel like you're born a baseball writer. You don't just become one. It's in your blood. You come out of the you come out of the womb with a fedora on, a diet coke in your hand,

and just a sense of salt, righteous, self indignation. Tommy Bahama shirt. Yeah, you go around getting scoops from your classmates in elementary school, turning in your notes to the principal. It's a different breed to be a blood pressure. You've got chest hair and pre-diabetic when you're born. You come out eating a T-bone steak from St. Louis. Yeah.

And you just you worship at the at the altar of Bob Costas Sunday. Jake, did you know it was their baseball writers class? It should be a special major here. There was a sports writers class. I didn't take it. Did you know any baseball writers? Like we're not asking actual baseball writers, but kids that are like that could be a bit. Oh, yeah.

It's the answer you. No. Do you think they should be in the hall of fame? Yes. Without a doubt. Yes. Even though they cheated. And broke the rules.

Just drill down. Even though they even though all these kids that watched them, all their memories have been stripped. I wouldn't say that. Even though they're not a rabbit hole, the homers. No, they've been deleted off of YouTube. I'd say worse than that, Jake. The youngsters were shown role models that it was OK to use drugs. Maybe that's why our society as a whole is falling apart right now.

All those kids that grew up on these home run dingers are now coming of age and rotting culture. I think they deserve to be in. You still? We're just writing a baseball column right now. And isn't it strange that the one thing that could keep our society from falling apart at the seams is baseball? I want someone to actually connect that. We're in a very weird part of American history and social media and economic

stuff, whatever it may be because of the kids that grew up watching Barry Bonds and Sammy Sosa and Mark McGuire. Someone make that connection for me. I'm sure that it's out there. Yeah. All right. So before we get to that sequel, though, I did want to one of my favorite things to do is look up Barry Bonds stats.

He's got the best pro baseball reference page of all time. But just throwing a couple out there because they're just fun to say. Barry Bonds has a thousand more walks than strikeouts in his career. One thousand plus more. He had 575 plate appearances against Hall of Famers and he hit 292. And he had just seven strikeouts against Hall of Famers. 41 times he was walked with the bases empty. Makes no sense.

It's crazy. He was intentionally walked with the bases empty. He was also intentionally walked with the bases full. Correct. Correct. More than once. Correct. 26.3 percent of all Barry Bonds at bats ended with a home runner or walk.

That's pretty good. And then from 2001 to 2004, 39.5 percent of all Barry Bonds at bats ended with a home runner or walk. You just didn't pitch to the guy. And then here's another one that's just fucking this one's insane. From 2001 to 2004, Barry Bonds played 573 baseball games. He reached base in 539 of them. Ninety-four percent of the games he played in that stretch he got on base.

Holy shit. It's crazy. It's like that guy should be in the Hall of Fame. They should name the Hall of Fame after Barry Bonds. You can maybe put a wing that explains the stereotype. I don't give a fuck. Barry Bonds is a Hall of Famer. End of story.

Fuck Tom Verducci. I would love to have Tom Verducci on to just be like, what's your problem? He could actually just straight up start his own Hall of Fame. Yeah. He'd be like, I'm doing my own. Who's coming with me? I hope I would love for Barry Bonds to come back for like a day and play in a game to reset his clock so we can just keep so we can really keep the pressure on him.

So what happens now that he's not going to be automatically on the ballot? Could he get written in? I think it's something where like now he goes to the old-timers ballot or something where he could eventually get in, but they essentially just need enough of these old idiots to die and then young people to take over for. Because wouldn't it be the most baseball writers thing ever if they just did this to send a message and they kept him off the ballot or they kept him out of the Hall of Fame for this long and now that the message has been sent, they gallantly all write his name in next year

to let him into the Hall of Fame. That would be like a like a Rudy version where they're just all putting their fucking jerseys down. Exactly. Yeah, now it's now now you've you've proven yourself worthy of making our Hall of Fame young barrels. He negged them into yeah we're gonna we're gonna keep you out for the 15 now only now when you enter our Hall of Fame. Yes, yes. It's a fucking museum. It's a museum. That's the craziest part. It's a museum that tells the history of a sport of America's past. It's probably the best museum to go to with your dad though. Oh yeah, I would say. Cooper sounds fun. All right, let's get to Hot Sea Cool Throne. Hot Sea Cool Throne. Brought to you by

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The let's go of that. It still doesn't come out. He talked about you know the end of the season. He made some quotes. Obviously he knows people are waiting on his decision. But for my personal takeaway it seems like he's gone. What's talking about Giselle. He said it pains Giselle to see me get hit out there. She deserves what she needs from me as a husband and my kids deserve what they need from me as a dad. Team doesn't deserve anything less than my best. If I feel like I'm not committed to that or I can't play at a championship level then you've got to give someone else a chance to play. It's obviously a toss up. You know he's the only one that knows what's going to happen. But from right now where I stand I feel like he's going to he's going to

walk away. Really. You think that that's why they're delaying the release of the last episode. They're waiting. That was that was just like a I saw a tweet about it and I got in the replies. I don't know if that's the case. I doubt it is. It is kind of weird that they didn't you know they released one every week and then didn't release the 10th one. It would be it would be very funny if the Packers got rid of Aaron Rodgers or Aaron Rodgers left the Packers and then Tom Brady is like you know what I'll play for the Packers this year and then won a Super Bowl for the Packers. He would never go to the cold back to the cold. Yeah. I I think he's going to do one more year. I think the Bucks have one more year where they can kick the can down the

road with their like financial situation and they can be like let's do it. Let's let's bring everyone back. I our good friend Steven Shea showed me the all 22 of the play. It's it's crazy how like I mean it's a cliche game of inches but how these games come down to just one little thing. And if you watched the end zone version that Steven Shea showed me Levante David was supposed to blitz. They were going like all out blitz and he just didn't and that was like what do you have what do you've got there if you did. Sue kind of got there and he was going to get he was basically going to be on the other side of Sue. So who knows. Maybe you know maybe he does because Sue's already kind of winning his or the guy tries to chip Levante David. It just nuts how

those little things like decide who's going to win the Super Bowl. Also Matt Stafford fumbled the ball earlier on that drive and almost didn't recover it. Another game of inches situation there. It probably would have been smart for the Bucks to not cover a Cooper couple and on one with with a safety. But if they got that if they get home it's you know I don't. That the Bills defense was crazy too. Yeah. See I actually think the Bucks defense was better than the Bills. The Bills are giving. They were just they backed off like it was the last play of the game. If Levante David blitz is they probably get to a point where they can't he can't get that throw off and you're not giving away because like they essentially were saying we're not going to let you

get 20 yards for a field goal here. We're going to try to be proactive and and not like give you you know we're going to we're going to be aggressive here at the Bills. Yeah that Kelsey play when they when they have Patrick Mahomes saying Kelsey do it. It's crazy. So that was a very easy play to defend. It should have been. Yeah. It was called was it was ridiculous. Well it was the Bills are playing like they could only not let up a touchdown. Well no the the worst part about the Bills defense in my mind is that it's almost like they forgot that the Chiefs had time outs because they were playing sidelines instead of like they can go in the middle of field because they can call timeout. So the middle of field was wide open both that and the Tyreek Hill pass.

Sorry Bills fans. And then my cool throne I'm not. The cool throne is China. China China China. This is just this this made me laugh. I don't know why. It was from it was Lice Cameron Barstle. They just started streaming the Fight Club movie in China. But they changed the ending. Explosion. What is this. Are you going to tell me this is fake. No no I wasn't. I just didn't know if we wanted to spoil Fight Club. I'm going to spoil that I haven't seen it. Yeah that's kind of fucked up Hank. This is what happens at the end of Fight Club. China. If you're in China all the Chinese A.W.L.s if you go to the movie theater and or stream it the explosion scene has been replaced with text which states the police rapidly

figure out the whole plan and arrested all criminals successfully preventing the bomb from exploding. That's awesome. I love it completely. The end is they blow up every credit card company in the world and wipe out debt and in this one it's like the cops got him. Yep cops got him staying inside. Don't try any of this shit. President Xi responded individually killed all the bad guys himself. Glory to the state. That's perfect. I love some good propaganda. I really do. This is great stuff. Yeah. All right P.F. your hot seat. My hot seat is Spotify. Spotify is on the hot seat because Neil Young put their asses in the jackpot big time. Neil Young you might remember him from a bunch of hits. The Leonard Skinner song. Yeah well yeah

Skinner sang about him in reference to Neil Young's song Southern Man about Jim Crow. But Neil Young said you have to get rid of. Hey Spotify you have to get rid of the Joe Rogan podcast or get rid of me. Oh this town ain't big enough for the two of us. Oh make your decision balls in your court. I'm going to guess that they're going to keep Neil Young because I don't think that Joe Rogan is doing numbers. Yeah I think I think Neil Young brings in upwards of 10,000 listeners a month. It's more about like if you're Spotify your plan is to try to bring in new younger listeners. That's Neil Young. Neil Young yeah get that. The 75 year old Canadian folk singer I think is what the kids are looking for these days. I do actually love Neil Young.

Really? Yeah I think he's good. I'm not so I'm not trying to yuck your young. I do not like Neil Young. Why? I just just not something I'm into. Okay. You can be into it that's fine. I'm not telling you what to believe. I know that Billy absolutely loves you. Are you nervous at all? No no I love Neil Young's music but Neil Young's kind of a shithead. Is he? Because of this? No no because he really has three kids. It's just a whole never mind. Oh damn so I'm one kid away from being a shithead? No he is. He fucks me up. He abandoned like three. Wait a rock star? A rock star? No. You know he like abandoned kids. Not out of wedlock. Damn. I'm going to tell you what Billy's doing right now. Billy has gone into war mode because he threatened his idol Joe Rogan.

So Billy's been reading the replies to replies finding out why Neil Young is actually problematic. Am I way off on that Billy? Find the exact story. Speaking of that a guy made a war mode remix that we're going to put in this song. I haven't even listened to it. The email said this isn't a take on me remix it's just a song about war mode. You don't like you don't like Crosby Still's National Young? I do like Crosby Still's National Young. So you know that's Neil Young? Yeah I like I like that. He does the old man take a look at my life. Yeah that's a good song too. Horse with no name? No that's not Neil Young. No that's not you're thinking of something else. You're thinking of Cats in the Cradle when I had my son and Hank played that song and I was like

Hank if you're listening to that song it basically says that the dad works so much and isn't around that the son then like turns his back on the dad when he grows up and he's like oh what it's good song for having a kid. Good jam. It's like the worst song. How funny would it be? It's good song. Neil Young should be like hey I'll record every Joe Rogan podcast but Neil's version like Taylor's version so I'll say all the words that Joe Rogan says but it's Neil Young time baby so yeah Neil Young see you there's the door I'm sure Spotify is not going to lose any sleep over that decision. My cool throne is Cincinnati because I've been I've been inundated with Cincinnati facts this week like we said on Monday's show we don't really learn that much about cities until their

sports teams do well. It's like learning about countries and geography when we start bombing them so I've had a bunch of people reach out to me in fact Barstool Gooch Robbie Goochman hit me up and he gave me some Cincinnati facts because I think he's from Cincinnati. So here's some Cincinnati facts ready. The world's last passenger pigeon Martha died in Cincinnati in 1914. Wow. I think she was the oldest passenger pigeon in the world Cincinnati fact they once tried to build a subway system but abandoned it halfway through so now there's just abandoned tunnels underneath the city of Cincinnati that have never been used. That's pretty cool Cincinnati fact they're the cornhole capital of the world. I believe that I believe

that too Cincinnati fact the city was known as Porcopolis in the 1800s because of the pork industry and there are a lot of flying pig statues that's cool all over the city Cincinnati fact Cincinnati fact Cincinnati requested that they become the the capital of the United States back in the late 1700s when we moved it out of Philadelphia because they said we're more centrally located. That's good. Can't get attacked. We said we said no thank you but thank you for the offer Cincinnati Cincinnati fact. Yeah. So I think that's the entire history. Oh and they also haven't killed a beloved primate in almost six years. Whoa. Cincinnati if they're on a hot street. That's some I've learned a lot about the city of Cincinnati. Sounds like it. A lot of big

time. Big stuff. A lot of big facts out there. I hope I got everything in and thank you to the good people of Cincinnati for reaching out. All right. My hot seat is defense and people who love defense because I don't know if you guys saw but we had some we had some alternate takes which maybe we'll put in the takies this summer of that game on Sunday night. We had some people saying that they're just playing Madden on rookie mode and it's not that exciting because defense isn't playing any there's no good defense and all these throws are pedestrian against bad defense. So defense is on the hot seat. We need someone to show up with a good defensive performance in these in these final three games. Otherwise it's flag football. It would be incredible. It would be

incredible. What if Cincinnati just went out there and held Kansas City to 15 points. We know that's impossible because there's no chance that Cincinnati can beat the Chiefs. Correct. But I would love to see a like a defensive battle. Yeah. And do we forget the 49ers in Packers game that there was a lot of 49ers really good defense very good defense wins championships. All right. My cool throne is I did. Did you guys see that that one tweet where someone was like this must be what it feels like for kids to find out Santa Claus isn't real and it was a text someone showed shared from their dad saying defense no longer wins championships. It's like oh no. Damn. That's brutal. What do you mean about the Santa Claus part.

That's so brutal for dad just be like wait you can't win a championship with you can. The box did last year. Don't worry. It's such a tough thing because the saying offense wins games defense wins championships is just objectively a cool thing. It's great. It's great. And it looks good on a t-shirt when your coach says it you buy all the way in. Yep. But it turns out sometimes in life adults lie to you. Yeah. They don't always even know that they're lying to you. Yes. Turns out that scoring points can win games and championships because guess what you have to win games but win championships. But again I'm saying like that the defense won the championship last year the box won the championship because of their defense. So are we saying right now

take the under in the Super Bowl take the Niners future defense wins championships that's our defense wins championships pick. My cool drone is the entire Eastern Conference in the NBA because James Harden is upset. So this is going well. I fucking love the Nets like Kevin Rantz hurt carry every plays half the games. And I saw the quote the sources were like James Harden doesn't enjoy living in Brooklyn not just because of the climate but also the state income tax is different than Texas. You think like yeah you're the one who wanted to get out. So it seems like it's not going so well in Brooklyn. Not great but they are the first team to enter the metaverse. So that's huge. That's enormous. I have no idea what that means. Yeah. But they're there. Congratulations.

Go watch them. Billy mind if I stat pad. Go ahead. My first hot seat is Britney Spears' father. Apparently he had like some insane bugging of every hotel room video and audio that Britney was in and had like a 24 7 surveillance apparatus on Britney at all times like some pretty creepy stuff. So yeah he's like Scott Piolli and Tyler. Yeah. And my second hot seat is number two pencils. Guess what the SAT and standardized tests are all going online by 2024. Whoa. So number two pencils out the window. Don't have to bring around anymore. Damn. Almost extinct bubbles. Filling in the bubbles is like very therapeutic. It is. When you know the answers. When you don't it's the worst. No it is like it's a version of coloring. Yeah. For students. Do they even make

number one pencils and number three pencils. I think so. It's a different lead size. Right. I've never seen anything besides a number two pencil. I actually got a couple. Oh OK. Nice. Some black market pencils. Yeah. I got some. You got them from the church. Yeah. This is Dickson's third hot seat. Ticonderoga. Oh yeah. I was I was a pin tech guy myself. You would you smash pencil fights. Doing what you want. Britney Lynn Patrick's wife went out and said that we're back to this years. No this is. Oh. Oh. Oh yeah. Yeah. I'm actually come around. I've actually come around on this. I think it's a hilarious move. I like yeah like at first I was like this is crazy. But then obviously when you think about the context of the game like

anything goes. Yeah. You want to again popping champagne after division around a little a little dicey. But what did they say. People that are like flipping out about her. She was saying that she can't every week. It's a new thing that people criticize her for. I she did post this herself. That's what it's like. I don't I don't hate the move. But like no she posted on her Twitter. I'm getting woke to like this is actually perfect for Patrick Holmes because he like he if they're lightning rods the Britney Lynn and Jackson Holmes are lightning rods where any hate for Patrick Holmes just goes to them and not Patrick Holmes. He actually comes off looking better. Right. Because people have sympathy. They're like oh man I can't believe that Patrick has to

deal with this. What a good guy. In reality like she's probably a pretty normal person. She's celebrating a huge win by by pouring champagne. She was probably drunk as a lot of us would probably do in that exact same situation. Spray people with champagne. It seems like a lot of fun. I don't have a problem with it. I really don't. She's basically the the first lady of the city of Kansas City. Right. Yes. And it's it's actually a testament to how incredible Patrick Holmes is that the only negative thing you can say about him is you don't like his wife and his brother. I do think about that. I love the fact that his wife and his brother are like thick as thieves. Yeah. Right. But you just run around causing chaos all the time. What's what's

the positives. Oh he's one of the greatest quarterbacks like he he makes mind numbing throws. He can run. He just keeps the pocket alive. What are his cons. I really don't like his wife's Instagram and his brother's Tik Tok. OK. What are we talking about. But guess what. Yeah. They're they're good at getting eyeballs. Yeah. Tik Tok. Correct. Like I'm coming around on Jackson Holmes. I'm I respect how annoying he is. Yeah. He is. He does that. All right. What's your cool throne. Cool throne. SEC football. Joe Burrow made the controversial statement of saying yes stadiums and louder than NFL stadiums. I feel like that. That was that was an old old which was now brought up by an NFL veteran who thought that it was quite controversial.

But it's getting re-surfed. It's re-surfed. This is click bait. Billy you're click baiting people without context. I feel like Arrowhead in January is going to be a little different. It's I mean some SEC stadiums. We know Tiger Stadium is very very loud. But that place will be loud. He didn't have to play against Tiger Stadium. Yes. Yes. All right. Jake. Billy Stappat and kind of screwed me. Oh no. Billy is that kid who takes two pieces of pizza. Yeah. Call out the Glinney balls. Yeah. Now to play. So I'll go with my hot seat. Penalty flags. So they announced the Super Bowl crew. Ron Torbert. They are collabing. It's not a crew he's worked with. So there's like ref stats. That's so stupid. Yeah.

Okay. And wait to fuck that up NFL. So wait they're they're taking I don't think they've worked to get an all-star game. I think it's like an all-star game like that actually. No. Yeah. Get to shine. Yeah. Like I made the all-star game. Yeah. But they're going to be trying to fucking show what being a ref. Yeah. I feel like chemistry is more important. Yes. You want a crew that's been styled together. They're they're greater than the sum of their parts. Yeah. Right. And then my cool throne is the AWLs who are golf fans. Brooks Kepka max home of playing together. Yes. Farmers insurance open. Yes. That'll be fun. That will be fun for Brooks. They'll probably be talking about us the whole time. Yeah. They're miked up. What do you think the line is Brooks minus five and a half.

I was going to say seven thousand. I love Max. Max's got dude Max's tempo. Unbelievable. Yeah. That's what we're as we're doing now. We're accompanying his tempo. Max. It's just a fact that Max does well the harder we lean on. Yeah. Exactly. He'll win. So he'll win some fucking fake ass tournament and like we're actually right around now. This is Max season. So I'm saying this is like February and October Max season when everyone stops playing golf. Max I just learned what was like a few weeks ago. Yeah. He just waits till everyone all the pros go home and then he's like I just won ten million dollars playing the PlayStation open in fucking Anaheim. It's like the Tuesday and the little rock little rock par three. Right. Nine hole challenge.

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him. Oh right into it. You guys got to get back together. Well what's the what's the secret of like making up right. Like because you guys it's time just time just time just time heals all wounds because that was yeah we and I didn't talk for a few years and then time just healed it all and then we ended up in the same city in New Orleans for the national championship and it was like and it was like we hadn't missed a beat though. So that's I have hope for you guys. Well of course that's that's the cutty. That's cutty. Yes. You know that would be legendary. I would love to you know sit down with Jay on I am Matthew or his new podcast is pretty dope. Yeah it'd be cool to sit down with him and reunite and kind of relive some of those old

moments the good the bad the ugly. Yeah was it was it like off and on hot and cold while you were playing with him. No I mean I mean we're like brothers so I mean I wouldn't say it was it was like lovely all the time. You know we fought all the time but there was two rough patches when Josh McDaniels came in and put him on a trading block and he found out about that and then he just kind of went you know MIA on everyone so no one heard from him then and then when he was playing for the Chicago Bears that last year was brutal on everyone and so that took a toll on our relationship and that's really what did it but you know what's interesting is when you're locked in you're in a sixteen billion dollar business and you're making millions of dollars you know the pressure that

we put on ourselves and our relationships is unbelievable. I find myself now like going back and you know hitting up some of my old teammates like man you know at the end of the day we're still brothers you know what I'm saying like you know that we got to go in there and win and there's a lot of pressure there's a lot of tension but now it's over like we're going to hold on to that. You get a little distance between it and you can look back and be like that we went through some shit together and in a moment there's there's all the tension all the stuff that happens on a day-to-day but you can look back on it and be like this guy was we're actually brothers coming out of it. Yes football I mean at the end of the day it's football like okay you know Jay and I on

the football field was like it was football now football is no longer there. Right and I know you've talked about it but like you got drafted the same class as him to our good friend Tony Schaeffler also second round picked that draft. You guys went through life experiences that probably you can't like no one else understands it you know Tony said that you guys after your first year went and trained in Atlanta in the summer together like those things where you have all your your whole entire NFL career in front of you feels like the possibilities are endless and you guys are all grinding together that can't you can never take that away. Yeah I mean you have teammates and then you have brothers you know Jay and Tony Schaeffler they were brothers Elvis Doomer if you can throw

him in there I mean we're inseparable you know whether it's the offseason training together sitting down doing a year and say okay what are we going to do this year to get better together um you know those moments hell the first time I ever had a a red wine was with Jay Cutler you know there was a lot of firsts with Jay you know and Tony so you know we're brothers and um you know that's the difference between some cats in a locker room some dudes just your your co-workers. Yeah what um so you're you're podcasting now you're on TV you had Antonio Brown on your podcast what what was your biggest takeaway from that because there's obviously a lot has been said like oh Antonio Brown's crazy oh all this what when you got to sit down with him man to man

and you walk away from the interview afterwards what was your takeaway. He's a superstar absolute superstar I mean it was as if we were sitting down with an entertainer you know I think the difference between sports and entertainment well the well the biggest difference between sports and entertainment is just a team no one's bigger than a team no one's bigger than that logo no one's bigger than that mission entertainment right like and it's just ball right entertainment you got characters you know you have this you put this persona on and you know you could you could see him kind of get into that entertainment persona that character you know he knew the cameras was on um everything mattered from his haircut to how he dressed like all of that you know that's

kind of counterculture to a lot of ball players so I think you know that's a big topic there because you know will we see more Antonio Brown's you know with social media evolving and everybody's a brand you got Neil name image likeness now so you can start paying guys at high school and college so they're going to come in already thinking about business thinking about their podcasting now yeah right they're on youtube they're they're now acting like influencers and um I think that's counterculture to sports but hell it is a a big business I think in in in certain leagues it's probably easier to get away with doing stuff like that than it is in the NFL sometimes because your roster is so big and it has football more so than other sports I think has the mentality of like

either fit in or fit out you know like get out if you're not going to be part of the team if you're not going to like submit yourself for the good of the rest of the team unless of course you're extremely extremely talented like Antonio Brown is and he's gotten away with like being able to do a lot of that stuff over the years and be like an entertainer and have the spotlight on him because he's like you know top three top four receiving the league right now since it's at the at the end of his career do you see any team taking a chance and and bringing him in next year yeah I know he wants to play you know that was a question that I asked on the show Monday you know do you do you do you want to play do you want to continue say absolutely you know and I just you know I was one

of the things I was trying to get across to him was you know if we're going to play ball because you're right you know if you're going to play ball you have to you have to learn how to operate within the constructs of that team that system and so for me it's it's hard you know I think he has a 10% chance and I love and I love Antonio because we you know we share this a locker room meaning that fraternity the NFL and you know guys aren't perfect but at the end of the day you know he put put himself in this situation and you know I would say a 10% chance you know look at the market for him last offseason um you know where the box could have used him on Sunday well yeah well I'm talking about well just yeah of course would you think about him like kind of that post

he had after the game where he's I mean if you're a box player right and you put up with some of the things that come with Antonio Brown because whatever you think he he definitely causes a media stir right and then you see him kind of clowning you after you just lost a heartbreaking game that kind of sucks right like you're talking about brotherhood and like these guys in the locker I thought that was kind of bullshit well I mean look there is what you know there's almost 100 people in that locker room right you got players you got coaches you have support staff you know some guys will laugh at it you know if we're being honest some guys would be like oh that's just him trolling and then some guys you know may hold on to that never talk again would never talk to

him again yeah you know because you're right that is it's like damn bro you were just with us a couple weeks ago we're all in this together um so I yeah I think you'll get it you'll get a mixed bag yeah it's I mean it's a good point to how many different people are in an NFL locker room and how like different walks of life um what was the what was the best locker room you were in team wise yeah the Chicago Bears my first year I was gonna say not the last year hell no well yeah uh the first year in Chicago and I was never in a locker room like that never was in on a team where I looked to the sideline and said I didn't want to let those guys down you know you know there were so many times J and I in our offense you know we'll go three and out

and Lance Briggs, Brian Neuralacker, Peanut Tillman, Charles Peanut Tillman, Julius Pepper Izzy and so many others would literally meet us halfway there and still shake our hands saying get them next time get them next time get them next time you know every day we played ping pong you know we played so many games we did so many things off the field which made the bomb better on the field and I think that was one of the reasons you know we folded the way we did after Lovey was gone because they disrupted that locker room yeah there was nothing like that there was nothing like that I mean it was it was it was it was unbelievable with Brian Neuralacker and those guys created there in Chicago so you were in two spots where that kind of happened where

you know Lovey gets fired and they bring in Mark Treston everyone love Lovey and then you were also in Denver when McDaniels comes in what I mean both guys didn't turn out didn't like pan out what was the mistake that those two coaches made uh on their first go-around where it's like they just don't get how to manage this like the entire thing yeah Josh McDaniels brilliant from X's and O's there's no one better you're going to be prepared you're going to know what's going to happen before it happens uh excellent there I think Josh's biggest downfall during that time that era um was his people skills his leadership skills right um that was the biggest thing there coach Trestman I just think that he didn't have a chance because you know Lovey

leaves and that locker room that I talked about and he started doing things a little differently opened up the locker room he wanted to create that you know we're all in this together you know like that Google Facebook type of work environment which a lot of coaches are adopting that now so he was I would say he was early it's just ahead of his time yeah and then like you know coach Trestman I talk all the time and we had this conversation on his podcast you know a couple of months ago podcast yes but it's more business and leadership he's a professor at uh University of Miami he's doing some amazing things there but I you know we were real we had an open conversation and one of the things I said was you know it's probably a little too early to you know do the

things that he did he was trying to do with the locker room and you had guys that weren't buying in on the defensive side which made it extremely hard I also I've kind of changed my thought process on the Bears and the NFL in totality that like coaches can fail but it's really the organization fails them I'm now starting to realize like the Bears are screwed no matter what do you know what I mean like I almost feel bad for Trestman at this point I was mean to him then right but like I look back and I'm like it's just a clusterfuck ahead of on top of him so he like there was never a structure that was put in place to have him succeed well I mean at the end of the day yes I mean are there's so much to that yeah I do think that the Mikaskis you know they're so

passionate and they're like football royalty but they're so stuck in the 1950s yes yes and they got to get with the times yeah there's a couple organizations like that I'll talk about the giants that way as well I love that organization and you know a lot of people can study like some of the ways they move but now it's time to progress and move forward so the Mikaskis are one of those organizations I mean the Bears are definitely one of those organizations it's like all right it's time to it's time to get it you have to you have to kind of shrink your ego if you're one of the older families that's owned a team for forever because you know when you were coming up when you were in you know in your younger years business was done a certain way maybe you had a little success

then but you have to admit that you don't know shit about football anymore right and that you need to let somebody else that's a little bit younger and has like a fresh perspective come in I think a lot of times are very rich very successful people have a hard time doing that just like admitting that they're not they don't have what it takes anymore and letting somebody else help them for me the Mikaskis the Mikaskis is less about the football stuff because they let the football guys do their football thing right it's more so like we're talking about socks here you know like oh this is how we wore socks for 50 years well hell you got these young guys that want to dress the way they want to dress right they want to listen to the music want to listen to

in the locker room and they're just trying to put people in boxes so I just use that as an example I know it's like uh it's like my new and it's really nothing but it's literally a lot of little things that makes it uncomfortable for guys to go there and it's it's I mean we joke because it's it's cliche but culture matters like culture I I'm sure you can talk about it but like culture in different you've been to on a different teams different locker rooms like culture matters a lot when it comes to playing football and playing that full season right have you been in mr ccs on the corner down here uh no where's that I just made it up okay that's like that mr mr ccs is like a little mom and pop little pizza place right yeah that's it and that's how the Chicago beers are

no they are phenomenal phenomenal like when you talk about culture the culture is good as far as like you go in there nice people they're amazing you know you know them hell they might be on the elliptical next to you working out mr mccaskey george mccaskey he parks all the way in the back and you ask him why you parking in the back he's because I want everybody else to park get the first amazing people you know but now we're talking about a 16 billion dollar industry yes you got to bring in some people that really know what they're doing yes it is you're right I've said many times the mom and pop like they did the the bears is all they know right it's the family business yeah it's not like a lot of other ownership groups where it's like they made a lot of money then they bought a

team right and it's almost like a toy to them yeah this is it but yeah it doesn't very awkward if you had been like yeah I dig yeah I've been a ccs mr ccs and it's completely made up yeah yeah it sounds very familiar like that's a perfect I could see there being I thought for a second there was one yeah there's that I'm gonna google it before we transition what's the inspiration behind the set we're just messy slobs we get our way up we work out do you still work out I do yeah because you think house of athletes ain't shameless plug it's uh we we decided that we would get a squat rack put in here so we could work out in between podcasts and I've guess how that went we didn't go well not well at all yeah yeah no it's kind of a shit show in here we understand we also we

like to keep it a little bit messy in here because it really it really downplays the expectations from any guest that we have coming in like as long as we don't completely screw up the interview then they'll be like all right at least I got that messy room alive yes yes but um in your in your transition to being a uh uh I wish I call you a podcaster or a show host just a an entertainment mogul yeah is there anything like what has been the hardest part of that transition coming out of the NFL and you know changing and making your entire career in front of a microphone in front of a camera yeah actually Bonnie sitting next to me our chief of staff we were just talking about this we we have a uh in March we're going to have a hand we're gonna have like this we're going to be a

part of a business combine where a lot of uh NFL guys are going to come in and you know to get to learn business um Caleb Doorhill's putting something amazing together for these guys and you know it's like all right they're gonna spend four days with us and uh just shadowing it's like all right one of the things that we got to hit is that transition and putting in a routine right like when I was six years old nah once I got to middle school there was a itinerary there was a agenda set for me until I retired even in the off season I knew what I was gonna do I think the hardest thing for me in the two and a half years I've been out is setting that agenda like when the hell am I going to when am I going to podcast right when am I going to develop another show when

am I going to check my emails when am I going to meet with my team right like we have almost 100 you know partners and employees right so it's like learning that cycles it's critical that's what got us to that to that pinnacle the pinnacle of the of football you know and is that routine and now you got to put in another routine I mean that's the thing that makes you successful is being able to put a plan in place and do it consistently yeah consistency I'd say is like one thing that was because we we talked to a lot of athletes that are you know making their transition from you know their post playing career and they want to get involved in the podcasting game and they start up a new podcast and then you know they'll do it like there's they'll say we're gonna

do this uh you know a few times a month so they put it out like you know one week they take two weeks off come back out of nowhere there's another episode if if they put if they commit to a schedule that's like we're gonna release every week or if you're gonna do it every month just say we're gonna do it every month and let people know when to expect it that's that's a huge key that I think a lot of these guys are missing out on it's just like let your audience know when to expect content from you yeah we get to understand uh athletes you know we're used to putting up content um action shot and it gets thousands of of of likes and you know a video you get thousands of views maybe millions right so we're used to that and then when you make that transition and you go into

entertainment or podcasting and now you get 10 20 people like when we started our podcast I am athlete like when the first season we were we had 84 people in the waiting room watching or people watching live now we're getting up to like 22 25 000 at times watching live right right so it was hard my new york barber's the one that told me to keep going I called on one time i'm done with this shit it was like 84 people watching right now right you know you gotta think about that and he was like that's good for you i was like what are you talking about it's like i'm glad you're being humbled right now you're so used to millions of people watching you need to be consistent you need to stick to it i was like damn you're right and sure enough the last show we broke through

we hit 500 000 views in like a couple of days we're like uh and we just kept going in season two we just kept going we kept going and consistency is critical yeah no it's absolutely true like being there for your audience time in and time out and that's hosé by the way hosé is my name hosé shout out hosé shout out hosé i'm gonna get back to Brandon Marshall in a second but before we do this interview is brought to you by Kors Light we love Kors Light if you feel like you're always on you need a moment to chill gotta smash that reset button to get ready for whatever's next these days everything's go go go nothing but non-stop hustle all the time that's when you reach for Kors Light it's made to chill the mountains are blue the mountains are so blue this

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I assume you watched the games yesterday so we're taking this on Monday after an insane divisional round uh who do you think like just watching them Mahomes Allen maybe throwing burrow in there like rank the the young quarterbacks right now in the game because it's crazy how Jimmy G you're right he wins the guy wins but like it's it's not so watch these guys and be like hey i think we're it's cliche to say like oh we're in good hands but like this is awesome that we're going to maybe have Mahomes versus Allen every year for the next decade yeah you heard Tony Romo and you hear guys you heard guys on Monday you know talking about oh this was the you know the Allen and Mahomes dual uh you know that that uh back and forth it was the greatest display of

quarterbacking we've ever seen right and and they're right there it's you know it's so true if i had to rank these guys Patrick Mahomes number one easy easy it's not even it's not even a debate Patrick Mahomes you know Josh Allen even if he had won that game it would have you know he would have started the conversation but i mean you got to go win a Super Bowl and you got to go do what he's done consistently year after year after year so he's number one for me i'm a huge Josh Allen fan i've been saying it for two years i mean i think about where he comes from the kid didn't even have a chance in college and look who you're throwing to and the competition for him to be able to link up with Brian Daybaugh and and and and do what he's done the last two years is

remarkable um i like Joe Barrow smoking Joe i mean did we not know he was going to be great when he won his national championship and he had a stoke in his mouth after yeah he's got like the the quarterback swagger where you look at it you look at him and you're like okay i think his whole team just loves him right like he they all just like we're gonna ride with this guy you you know what i said this yesterday i hate that i hate because i know your friends you're like best friends with with jay well no your friends with him too yeah well it's like uh what is it like when it's like a sabbatical we're on a sabbatical yeah he's taking a break taking a break seeing other people you know i was watching uh joe burrows interview yesterday you know just his personality and also

like his confidence slash cockiness and i was like that's what jay was supposed to be no he was at times well jay i mean you know i'm saying like like joe burrow really he's a savage no he is crazy i think a problem with with jay was sometimes after a bad loss or a bad string of losses he still had that personality he'd still put that out there where he was like i'm cool i'm jay like you know it's one thing to do that if you're coming off a nice run like joe burrows on or you just want a national like you can ooze all that swagger and be like okay i'm i'm the man right now so i'm gonna act a little bit like i'm the man but if you do that enough after losing seasons people are you know it gets tiresome a little bit do you know what the the comparison though that does work between joe

burrow and jay is their toughness like jay was was jay never got the credit that he deserved for his toughness and i think joe burrow is the type of guy where it's like he got stuck nine times and he's just like keeps getting back up keeps making plays yeah i mean jay was super tough and um super competitor yeah he it was it was phenomenal seeing uh jay get hit and then bounce back up don't say anything you don't know if the guy's going to make it to practice on wednesday and thursday and he's out there um and then the circumstances you look at that year where was it mike marz in chicago probably hit the most ever you know it was brutal seven step drops yeah nine step drops but but but but but but in the NFL um is in great hands right now you know even you

have the the young gun out there justin herbert as well you can throw in there be exciting lamar's next year lamar jackson and we kind of forgot color murray yeah a lot of do you think color murray might be too short no he blocked me on twitter so i don't care what i say no yeah no i mean he made it to the NFL he's balling like i mean what he threw for over what three four thousand yards i mean yeah no he's really really good i think he just needs every now and then he's new coach right i don't think that cliff is the guy to to take him to the next level i think that cliff has proved time and time again that he's actually he's not that great of a head coach he can he can do some exciting things early on a season but once there's a little bit of tape

out of what they're doing that year teams just catch up to him how how much does that suck when like not don't name names you know it's a blast i like name the names okay i'm real i'm real i just like okay yeah you can name names like i at people you can at me let's have real conversations could you tell the difference in like your coaches and offensive coordinators and coaching staffs like the guys who are putting you in a great 100 to succeed and then the guys you're like they don't know what the fuck they're doing yeah 100 we talked about a guy earlier josh mcdaniels never been more prepared in my life really no four game yeah josh mcdaniel was excellent right so you you absolutely get it and you understand like even this past weekend we said oh

one of the greatest weekends of football ever and if you go if you just narrow it down to like one thing what was the one thing that made this great it was situational football that's what it was two minute offense two minute defense four minute offense can we run the clock are we going to stay in bounds what about special teams yes crackers yes situational football some of these plays the kansas city chiefs the the little the little drop-off to uh tyreek hill and you had two guys go blocking any scooted up the field and he got down like those are things that you work on in camp you you implement that in camp and then you just work on it maybe once a week you just touch it and then all of a sudden when you need it it's there but can you can you execute guys like josh

mcdaniel's you know those are things that they just they do it better than anybody else right so you're always prepared and then you go on some other teams like shit they you go ask the coach well you know third and you know this fourth quarter we enter in the fringe the fringe area two minute drive all right you know games on the line we're down by three right what defense are they gonna call and give me the percentage ah josh mcdaniel's gonna look at you you're gonna say oh yeah you entered in the fringe fourth quarter games on the line down by three yeah it's probably gonna be you know 50 chance it's 50 percent of the time this defensive coordinator is gonna go cover zero right yeah so here's our answer to that that's and then it must feel like a superpower

when you see that when you when you see it on the field after you learned it all week 100 percent yeah you're you're ready i mean and some coaches be like hey this is what i think they're gonna do and you know be prepared for this josh mcdaniel's and i would you know i would assume that it's like that in new england as well with bill beller check is like they come in and they say this is what's going to happen hey jack asses this is what's going to happen you know it's no don't even think about just do this do your job this is what's going to happen i think you like josh mcdaniel's because he threw you the ball 21 times in the game one time that's what i that's what i think i remember that game coward yeah holy shit like do you ever look back at well let me ask you this in the moment

when you're you make 21 catches in a game you start game planning for the next week and you're like if i get anything less than 20 catches it's a complete failure like did that reset your expectations of what that offense was going to look like no it was uh that was an anomaly and i knew it before the game i went up to michael smith used to be on espn and i had my little headphones on i said bro i want i'm telling you this because i want you to report on it later i said this is going to be the best game i've ever played in my life right so i just felt it like i i i was like crescendoing all week and sj butter crescendoing i was crescendoing all week and and uh and i was just speaking into existence like i like yeah so you 28 you were just telling

kyle orton you're like hey you're going to throw me the ball 30 times yeah i had no i was just like it's i didn't know what how it was going to look all you know if it's going to be 20 catches i didn't know if it's going to be 250 receiving yards i didn't know if it's going to be five touchdowns he had no clue i just felt really good but jz just dropped an album and i'm a big jz fan and so all week i was just like everything he does is like effortless right and so i was just like that's all i was listening to that's all i was channeling and so i you know if you saw if you if you go back and watch that game after every catch i would just get up and i'll go back to the huddle and what i was like this is what i do right like this is easy to me right so i wasn't

talking trash you know i wasn't celebrating i was just getting up handing the ball back to the ref what's uh talking about playing the wide receiver position i i i love to talk to athletes and ask just a simple question what is the one part of the job of being a wide receiver that like fans don't pick up on that the common fan us idiots sitting on the couch like how can you not do that it's like no that's not how it works right what is that one thing that's a hard question what's the one thing like you know whether it be like how like route running whatever it may be like the one thing that you don't people don't the misconception about being a wide receiver that you don't really understand right i don't know i'm always shocked like i throw one out there like

body control and and the ability to get like feet down is so incredible like we see it and it's routine in our eyes but you don't understand the muscles that go into that right just like blows your mind right yeah i think like um yeah travis kelsie this weekend you know that back shoulder game winning was it the game yes yes it was the game winner right it's he ran a out and then up and then he had the back shoulder there but you know little things like that that play doesn't work if he's actually running that route anticipating or or running it for the back shoulder you have to run it to win like as if it's going to be over top right so you run it that way and you let the quarterback throw there throw the ball there and then you got to be got to put your

body get it's like open up your hips call it open up your hips you got to open up your hips so you can turn around and make that catch that's hard for a lot of guys to do you would think that oh that's just a wide receiver that's just a you know a hall of fame tight end you know yeah that's what he's supposed to do in any guy supposed to do that no uh-uh that's why you only see a handful of guys able to do that in today's game you got odale beckham jr you see with him and matt mathieu staffer been able to do over the last six seven games whatever it's been so i think um understanding route running understanding you know just the nuances but you know in route running and understanding coverage because there's so much that goes into it because that route changes also if it's not man

and man if it's own what do you do so there's a lot that you have to think through and work through within you know a second quarterback all right we can go i right z zing we're gonna go you know z-pop x prick on two on two ready break and then you go out there now you got to see what is my linebacker what is the safety what is the corner doing all right now okay it's on one oh now i got to go in motion oh shit the safety came down so now that changes said huh oh the safety went back what am i doing right so it's a lot in your head and you're right that travis kelsey touchdown looked like routine yeah it looked easy because that's what they make it look like right like we watched that game or like that's just easy that's travis kelsey what about um when you make you jump

into the air to make a catch and you got to get two feet down that's that to me is some sometimes the most amazing thing that receivers are able to do nowadays is they're just able to let their entire body kind of go limp as they're twisting in the air just focus on getting the toes down is it something that you think about like after you secure the ball in the air does your brain actually tell you like okay now it's time to get the feet down or is it something that you've worked on so much that it's almost like an instinct at that point yeah it's hard man that that question's come up a couple times over the last month um i don't know i never thought of the only time i ever thought about it was in college in college i didn't i never understood why college

receivers would only you know okay the rule is get one foot in and they would just focus on getting one foot in try for two yeah for me it was like i'm going to the nfl yep i'm working on that shit today you know what i'm saying so i never understood it you know why college dudes did that i'm like no like let's play nfl ball right now and so like that's the only time i never came up um yeah you work on it there's drills that you do but i think you know the the odell you just have a feel you know that's the best way i can describe it there's some guys don't have a feel you know and it's guys that can do that guys also understand like okay i got this in cut it's quarters this guy's driving down on me you can feel everything around you it's i don't know it's just like it's almost

like an innate ability almost yeah uh hanks a big believer of if you can touch it you can catch it is that true good question yeah it's kind of it's kind of i hate that it's terrible sorry but it's true yeah yeah like when you say do you have a football here oh yeah right now there's a small one underneath you yes like when you say touch it because like the last one oh you touched it that's a drop right like what happens if it just if it just touched the two fingers yeah you should caught it that's what i should like yeah so Hank this is you want where's Hank you want me to catch this Hank yes yeah i'm gonna pull up the play actually there was do you remember the washington football team giants game daniel jones had an overthrow uh i said it was a bad throw and everyone

was like the receiver touched it he should catch it get it up and i got absolutely dunked on it i was i was saying what you're saying it was a bad throw it was an overthrow just because he touches it doesn't mean you can catch it okay and now because i got dunked on so hard i have to just remind people of how bad i got don't yeah anytime touch it you can catch it anytime it like barely grazes a wide receiver's fingers hank will be like well i thought it was if you if you touch it you can catch it gets three millions of dollars he's on your side actually okay yeah he is he thought it was yeah we need to see this play and then there's reaction and then also there's there's and this is something right that um you know that some people may not see but a lot of times there may be some trash balls

right and a wide receiver will put himself in position actually give himself an opportunity to make a play right but then he drops it and it's like oh it hit his hand it's like no you don't understand what it took for him to actually flip his hips right he's 60 yards down the field the ball was supposed to be thrown over his right shoulder was thrown outside over his left shoulder he flipped around tracked the ball down and tried to keep his feeding bounds you know what i'm saying also the ball got lost in lights as well because there's a blind there's a lot of most items there's a blind spot right get these huge lights there and so there's so those are things that people don't see it's like oh he just dropped the ball it's like man that was impressive for that

dude just to get his just to even get his hands on the ball yeah he got it all right this is good we're gonna get the official judgment of was this a bad pass or should he have caught it okay Danny dimes drops it boom it's for all the marbles for Hank here hold on so what did you say you said overthrow he said bad pass oh oh oh could he have caught that does he get paid millions dollars to make that catch could he have caught that oh yes what are you talking about even this one you can catch it yeah even that one a lot of times too even this right and this is this one separates the good from the great even if the ball was that's a old say if it was another yard out in front of him can dive that's

when you know one hand extend because now you can i can extend more if i do this if i open up my shoulders right here i'm short so that's why you see a lot of guys like why did he throw out one hand well because he's that's what i meant you he's getting to the ball no he absolute that should have been like yeah come on come on come on you lose watch football come in one time hey fair enough now pull up the antonio brown drop that's why i think is the producer yeah the one of the producers on this show uh i go ahead i saw that you played a game with with uh our friend frank gore when he was on your podcast where you asked him to name you know players that maybe he had played in the league with maybe you hadn't i got i got a question for you kind of along similar lines

can you name every quarterback that you played with that you cut a touchdown pass from absolutely now i think i played with like 18 quarterbacks i i looked up you got one two three four five six seven eight nine quarterbacks that i got a touchdown they cut a touchdown let's go uh j cutler um cow orton fits um chris simms okay um uh uh henny matt more and i got one more i think you you might have named a couple guys that you didn't catch the touchdown no no who who i don't think that you caught a touchdown pass from chris simms i did washington you missed out two touchdowns whoa yep cow orton went down two bombs i go by pro football reference dot com did you catch one did did uh that one stupid game that trestman tried to save his job and have jimmy

claustin start in like week 15 i didn't catch okay i don't even know if i play yeah you might not have that was a that was an all-time moment yeah like what are we doing back here what are we doing yeah wait when did you catch a pass from chris simms so that was josh mcdaniel's year that was 2010 wait did you say josh mcdaniel josh mcdaniel yeah but have you did you catch one from josh mcdaniel absolutely in green bay in green bay yes yes it was a nice back shoulder on the left side we were getting smashed 50 something to three josh mcdaniel was i mean i love josh he yeah i caught a couple touchdowns from josh mcdaniel yeah you also had um yeah it says cow orton j cutler and jake plumber are the three quarterbacks that you caught touchdown passes from adinburgh okay i don't

remember jake plumber but i was gonna go back to jake what about what about jason cambell that that game that we got killed by the niners on monday night football he was out no we got killed oh that was one of my favorite games that you've ever played monday night football jay cutler brandon marshal in san francisco remember that three touchdown three touchdowns second half comeback well open the stadium i was high actually high yeah like yeah like two three tour dolls oh pain killers i wasn't supposed to play that game i was supposed to be out six weeks the game before a high ankle spring and i just asked phil emory and and coach was like yo just give me two you know pregame to show that i can play so only it was only

three catches three touchdowns yeah it was and you it was the comeback i got to look it up it was they opened the stadium yeah 100 100 percent i had three three catches three touchdowns yeah monday night football that was one of my favorite uh games that you had yeah um and what's the last question like you looking back at your career you've been out for a couple years now um like what's oh yeah those fourth quarter 21 points i'm looking back at the box score right now five you had five catches 48 yards three touchdowns five catches you were so high you don't remember how many i know i always but it was big ass touchdowns yeah they were shouldn't have done that you still play a football game you had two touchdowns two touchdown catches in the in the uh in the fourth

quarter um looking back at your career what what's the one thing you're like regret or like man i should have done that differently is there anything that sticks out that you're like shit that that could have gone better yeah i mean that like football um is big business um and i think as players a lot of our players where we come from it's not business it's personal like i how do i separate the how do i separate the personal in the business when football is the reason why my mom eats or my sister you know has a roof over her head right and that's the reality is like the things that drove me every single day whether it's five a.m matt drills or even that that navigated me in the streets where it's like yo

you can go this way but you might be able to you might throw your career away and you ain't gonna better take care of your family like how do i separate you know that football the business around it and the personal because it saved my life it saved you know uh the people around me their lives right like literally um and it's hard so in those moments whether it's on the sideline you know it's hard to when a coach like whether it's bruce arian's you know a b saying get the fuck out of here and saying you're done do the throat slashing thing like now you go it's this personal who are you talking to so i i wish back then i wouldn't say i wish i mean i and it's not even a regret because i understand it right like a lot of people may not understand it you know

but it is just who i am you know and you know the good the bad the ugly and you know i had to survive and i had to thrive and when you come from a place like that you know those are the skills that you have so like i'm a product of my environment um so you know the one thing i look back on my career was like damn that there was some tough moments or when i lost control you know and and i let the emotions my emotions get the best of me right and that's some that's one of the things that i wanted to you know sit down and share with antonio brown was that is like i get it i understand it no one understands it more but you got to understand like now you're not in control of the moment because now we're just talking about you is something wrong is cte

mental health etc etc right um so i think when i look back at you know the emotions got the best of me sometimes the first half of my career that's i mean it's it's a good it's a good like big picture lesson you'd also just say don't wear pajama pants when you're gonna get videotaped oh bro that was my thing yeah it was that was my thing i used to wear pajama pants i know in that clip when you were that was the end of denver right yeah i used to warm up in pajama yeah yeah in the end of denver the josh rutaniel's days were weird times in denver very weird but i that started before josh mcdaniel's right pajama pants okay oh no i'm saying like oh yeah like how everything kind of fell apart there yeah yeah you so you played for mike shanahan there actually

tony cheffler told us that he had a uh he had a tanning bed inside his house and when he would throw parties because he'd throw like an annual party for all the players to go to he would show off he'd take people on the tour and be like yeah that's my tanning bed in my house did you ever see the tanning bed absolutely absolutely i mean it was like a 16 000 square foot home it that was some of the best parties i ran in coach shanahan a couple months ago in denver and i was like coach you gotta do that party again people loved them legendary it feels like anyone who played for him is like he was the best brandon marshal here on parting my take all right listen download subscribe listen to this phenomenal episode and all the other episodes these dudes been on the

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much that I haven't been saying it to you uh not an FAQ but a lot of cues my buddy is in charge of sports for our local ymca they're short coaches so he wants me to volunteer it's 11 under co-ed I'm 100 committed to building a dynasty now I need to know answers to the following what offense should I run do I let everyone play do I wear a suit or sweats and how much conditioning do I make them do I think you got to go sweat co-ed what yeah that's kind of weird go full jumpsuit wait did you say coio what sport are we talking about basketball basketball I'll I would say maybe just chill out they'll probably remember you more if you're just cool and try to teach him something then build the dynasty how old are these 11 11 yeah yeah that's right on the age

you don't want to be too much of a hardo yeah I would um just you know make sure they all get to play yeah well no you don't do that 11 I think it's right around the age locate your best player and just feed them the wrong yeah 11 is right when you can be like all right you can play a little bit but not all the time but but yeah don't be a dick this guy sounds like he might go too hard just practice strictly buzzer beaters and no matter what the game is if they just hit buzzer beaters it's going to be electric no matter what that would be funny if you just do like if you just only shoot from half court or the kings will hire you or something or if your team just straight up does it a verbal countdown every time you have the ball and goes like three two yeah once

so every shot you get to practice hitting at the buzzer also try doing the get on all forwards and bark like a dog play one team does that and I as far as the internet has told me that plays never fails it this is actually serious if you really want to be a dynasty and don't like be a dick about it and run them too hard teach them all how to shoot skyhooks you can't guard it you would not be able to guard it skyhooks for everyone like imagine if you just run an offense where you just feed the post and skyhook over everyone it'd be awesome so on offense run the skyhook offense on defense just play zone yeah and kids will not know what to do with his own it's very simple do the not jake is it is it a one three one zone because there's been a lot of people that have been

arguing over this my mentions over the last there's different I think you go to three with 11 year yeah but what is it what is the Syracuse zone two three zone yeah it's a two three zone because people are like it's a really a one three one zone or you go or you can fuck them up change it a little bit the best is running a box in one yeah have so have your best defender on their best player don't know if you're man or god they need to bring back the memes for this home stretch I will the triangle and two if it's a really good player but yeah just play zone defense and no one will know what to do with it favorite place you've ever lived for each of you I mean it's Madison because of college Manhattan New York yeah I mean it's called like college was very fun I hope people

had fun at college I didn't go to college my college experience was on a bus well I went to college for a year was it fun yeah so there you go wasn't my favorite place I love though yeah I agree I like I like Harrisonburg it's a lovely town when it doesn't smell so I go to go to a fun college that's what I would say I would say Austin Austin is a great city it might not be that cool anymore I don't know I've heard rumors that it's worse not but no Austin was great in the in the late 2000s speaking of Brooks when is the Brooks versus Dave golf outing happening next question it's not it's never well I don't think I don't think we ever really yeah Dave followed up on the show but Brooks did there's beef yeah he did it with Bryson and he got injured and couldn't do it

with Dave and then they said they were going to reschedule and Dave I think yeah so that's that's beef that's beef that's real beef I believe the answer is never yeah what's up fellas what's the best dish slash food to serve we should play Brooks scramble us for yeah which four I'm in who's the fourth well Jake's a good golfer right well Hank you and Bubba aren't content yeah sure you're out I'm I'm very good but we should do that I don't know where I stand on that Jake are you good I'm all right okay here's what we do it's me big cat Jake and Hank and Billy's all of our caddies so he carries four bags at once and we get to throw the ball once a hole don't be sick off the green yeah no I know anywhere even we can put we can hand put

yeah if you I mean I think we probably want to use it for our short game one throw a game yeah we're like we're like you know 40 yards away I think that's a throw there's the old hand wedge yeah I had the best round of my life with the new layer the goldfish part of my take I'd covers over the forgiving all right so we're gonna buy them a bunch of shit out of those are unrehearsal rocks that you're listening the gauntlet has been thrown down who wins scramble of us and max versus brooks brooks easily yeah probably it's basically the same thing um all right we'll go with this last one does max get to throw one ball per hole because I'd say helpers game I think it would help yeah yeah would you rather be the guy in your

favorite sports moment but that's all you have for your career so it's only one play but it's legendary like the butler pick and Superbowl or Stefan Matto's goal and ranger stand like I don't know who that is okay uh or get paid a crazy amount of money whatever's considered a crazy amount of money to you oh easy easy get paid a crazy amount of money yeah it's not even close because if I'm the guy in my memory then that memory like I still have the memory if I'm Malcolm Butler yeah but you are Malcolm Butler yeah but you Hank imagine what's the best what's your best what's your favorite sports memory I think it would get annoying after a while like have everyone be like remember that time that you did it and it's like yeah I did other things like no no you

have that one play meaning a lot of money would be cool too mm-hmm yeah I don't know it's it it's also a tough question to answer like Joe Carter walk off home Joe Carter was like an incredible baseball player but the question is the sports favorite sports one but that's all you have for your career so it's like Joe Carter pick I'd be Michael Jordan no like Michael Jordan like what's the defining moment wouldn't be Michael Jordan you would be you would be big cat on that bulls team got making that one shot that Michael Jordan so you don't get his entire career yes I still think that so I would be if you could pick the amount of money I'll be Randy Johnson I would I would have killed a bird some things are bigger than money I'd be Tiger Woods in a Perkins

it's for the love of the game big cat so I I'm just saying like I think I think it would be annoying I think it would be awesome to be that guy but I think it would eventually get annoying to be the guy that's only remembered for one thing yeah and always having to talk about that one thing plus I enjoy all of my sports memories that I have that's what makes them so great if I just had if I was just way way way richer and I'd still have those sports memories I would take that easily over me having done one thing in one game one I would just buy my favorite teams too good point it's the it's the fact that there's no cap to the money makes it easy if you said 10 million dollars and it's like okay now this is a real big but if it's like you can have a 10 billion and you

can buy whatever team you want that'd be sick no cap no cap all right numbers 17 Julian gentlemen on friday conference championship someone told me I was being 20 automatic for keep keeping choosing 88 22 31 84 and 26 26 and 22 49 good football number I wish we had a guy around here he could tell us about football numbers oh it's a new number oh score got me number got me ball got me love you guys polar bears are shot on site nice land that fade on site down you want to know what it feels like to be in war mode feels like wrestling a 600 pound greased up grizzly bear in the nude after his shotgun 17 cores line AC DC's hit 1990 song thunder struck plays in the background somehow feels like getting in a full-on fist fight with your stepdad wreck because it won't let you take

creatine and flip NFTs anymore fuck you Rick you don't know shit about crypto feels like sticking your dick in a ceiling fan going full speed out of anger because your football coach moved you from quarterback to wide receiver because you could only bench 215 and can't identify cover two defense for sure and if you've never fought a retired 57 year old baseball player with bad shoulders and you don't know what war mode feels like and you can fuck right off back to pussy pants island it's part of my take presented by bro still sports