Pardon My Take - Braxton Berrios, The Cardinals Suck & Rovell Is Not Racist

Episode Date: January 19, 2022

We start the show talking about Monday Night’s wildcard game and the Cardinals looking horrendously bad (00:02:59 - 00:17:07). Darren Rovell is not racist because some of his favorite memorabilia is... black (00:17:07 - 00:28:30). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Andy Reid trying to win more cake (00:28:30 - 00:47:09). Jets Wide Receiver and All Pro Braxton Berrios joins the show in studio to talk about his upcoming free agency, Miami being back, thirst trapping and tons more (00:47:09 - 01:27:47). We finish with FAQ’sYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we finish off Super Wild Card weekend. Rams kicked the shit out of the Cardinals. We have some hot seat, cool throne.
Starting point is 00:00:22 We have Braxton Berrios, all pro. Braxton Berrios in studio. Super Bowl champion. Super Bowl champion, Braxton Berrios. It's always fun to have someone come in in studio, so it's great to catch up with him. Great interview, very cool guy. And then we finish with FAQs.
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Starting point is 00:03:06 It's part of my take presenting my basketball sports. Welcome to part of my take presented by Bird Dogs. Go to birddogs.com right now. Enter code PMT and you get a free whistle football with your bird dogs purchase. Today is Wednesday, January 19th and the Arizona Cardinals are frauds. Absolute frauds.
Starting point is 00:03:27 They made me so mad watching that game. Terrible. I was offended watching the Cardinals last night. I think everybody who's a sports fan has a right to be pissed off at the Cardinals. I was so mad at myself because everyone does this when watching sports or gambling on sports. You have an opinion, you have a strong opinion
Starting point is 00:03:46 and then at the very last second you go against your strong opinion for no real good reason. I've been, this podcast has been forefront in the Arizona Cardinals are frauds for the better half of two months now. Cliff Kingsbury fades down the stretch. Kyler Murray, you want to say he's injured, whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:03 I don't care. They just don't, they're just not a like upper echelon football team. And then right before I was like, ooh, these teams know each other three and a half points. The road team won both games this year. This one's going to be tight. And it was instant.
Starting point is 00:04:18 You knew instantly that the Cardinals were going to get their asses kicked. And then we had the beautiful Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz play where, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking. He was about to take a safety. The thing is like, it was bad that he threw it away, that he threw that interception.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That's really bad. The worst part of that play is that he spent about four and a half seconds in the end zone. Just hanging out. Yes. Hoping that nothing bad was going to happen to him. Then he feels the heat on his back. And by the way, Kyler Murray's gotten slower.
Starting point is 00:04:47 He was getting chased down by linebackers. So he might be injured. He might be injured. But he was getting chased down from behind by guys that were about 150 pounds heavier than him on a regular, maybe not 100, but like 100 pounds heavier. He's also gotten softer. He blocked me on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I also saw that he blocked Greg McElroy on Twitter. So I think he just left the game and started blocking people. I didn't at him. And he's gotten slower too. Yes. He's gotten slower, softer, and shorter. Yes. All the bad things.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Probably doesn't that that's I'll just say it. It's if it were someone that I would want to have on the show, I would have not tweeted that they blocked me. I've seen Kyler Murray, that Dan Patrick interview. I'm OK with him not coming on the show. Didn't we have Kyler Murray lined up for an interview at a Super Bowl? And it was right after he did the Dan Patrick interview. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 And then I think his agent was like, you know what? Kyler's tired right now. We're not ready. So I just pulled up his profile. He does not block me. But Jake was saying that we should compile an all blocked list. Yes. Like the best players at each at each position for part of my take overall.
Starting point is 00:05:50 So so far we have Kyler Murray as QB1. Now that Big Ben doesn't block us anymore. Correct. Antonio Brown at wide receiver. Mm-hmm. OJ at running back. Mm-hmm. Who else?
Starting point is 00:06:02 Who will need notable blocks out there? We probably should have done some research before we did this. That was stupid. Not one that comes off the top. Sorry. No, no, sorry. I'm sorry for being stupid. No, no, it's not.
Starting point is 00:06:14 I'm not blaming you. It's just we just we have three that we know of. That's a good start. That's all block list. That's a good start. I wouldn't even know how to figure out. You know, it was I got tagged in a tweet and I looked at his profile this morning. I was like, wait, he blocks me.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And then the Greg McElroy thing makes me think that he literally got home last night. I also I'm going to give Kyler an out. I'm going to give him a very easy out. It feels like maybe his dad runs his Twitter account form. And was maybe just watching the game and watching everyone just shit on him. And again, I didn't add him. It wasn't like targeted harassment. I just simply asked the question, is he OK?
Starting point is 00:06:50 Does he have eyeballs? Because there was moments in the game last night where it felt like he just I don't know what was going on. He looked drunk. It was bad. The entire offense looked at us thinking even on the plays where Kyler Murray was escaping from pressure and finding a guy like seven, eight yards running open downfield, if he was able to hit him in stride, the receivers is dropping it.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And it was like it reminded me so much of those teams that you see where like the only explanation for why things go bad is that somebody had sex with somebody else's girlfriend or wife. Yeah. Remember it was at the 98 U.S. World Cup team. Yes. And then ever since that happened, that rumor gets brought up every time a team starts to suck. There's maybe Cliff was sleeping with somebody because like the entire team looked
Starting point is 00:07:32 like they just didn't want to be the only person who looked like they wanted to be there was probably was a kicker. Yeah. Health and those smell and salt. Legend that extra that 55 yarder that was a very sad field goal. I it was so bad that I actually said to myself, the Cardinals are so bad tonight, not even Matt Stafford can fuck this up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:53 Because if you're a Rams fan, what are you doing when you're going into the playoffs? You're like, we have everything. We have all the skill positions. Cam Acres is back. Aaron Donald is going to wreck games. It's essentially just comes down to will Matt Stafford blow it in a big moment. If he doesn't, you could win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:08:10 If he does, you're screwed. And it got so like, I'm not even saying when it was whatever, whatever it was. The score was what? 21 was it 28? Nothing. Yeah. I'm not even saying that I'm saying when it was 14 nothing. I was like, the Cardinals are so bad that Matt Stafford cannot screw this up.
Starting point is 00:08:26 He's going to get his first playoff win. And I don't know what I don't know what you do if you're Cardinals like going forward, you can't. It's very hard to like make a big change because you made the playoffs. There was a point in time in this season that you were the best team in the football. But man, there's a lot of questions with Cliff Kingsbury. I actually threw this out there today, PFT. I want to hear what you have to say.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I would be more confident if I were a Cardinals or Cowboys fan, if our if our defensive coordinator was the head coach and not the head coach. OK, so I was actually just about to say when you were like, how do you fix this team? I think that this is the type of team that you do the thing where you hire a Vic Fangio. Yeah. Where you go with a defensive.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Of course, it's been great. Yeah, yeah. You hire a defensive guy. You zig while everybody else sags. You can't like rebuild by hiring a great defensive mind that just doesn't work. I just don't understand a quarterback to take you to the next level. Your offense is awesome. Once you have Hopkins still out there.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Yeah. And everybody's healthy. But your offense is going to be your offense is going to be fine. I think as long as you have an average offensive coordinator, if you have like a defensive mastermind leading that team, I think that's the way that you got to go. You hire somebody that maybe you hire Dan Quinn. Yeah, I just it feels like every time the Cardinals, they are very reminiscent
Starting point is 00:09:44 of like watching a triple option offense in that, you know, within the first five minutes, is this going to work or is it not? And like the Cardinals, you know, like, is their offense going to work tonight or is it not? And then they just don't change it. You know, like they it felt like they couldn't block anyone. And then they just kept on having Kyler drop back and throw it deep. And it was like, what's every time you do this, it ends up in disaster.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Yeah, I'm going to be the body language police on Kyler Murray. Don't like the body language. Well, did you see that bad body? He looks he looks like he's on sedatives when he goes on the sidelines. He's not talking to anybody. There's not screaming at anybody. They always say like you want a guy that will grab somebody by the face mask. I think that's a little bit aggressive.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I don't think you have to grab a guy by his face mask all the time. But Kyler is just like he's a loner on the sidelines, which is fine if you're a punter or a kicker or, you know, a nerd that nobody's supposed to care about. So Jeremy Fowler on ESPN said that he actually said before the game, he said, talk to a veteran Seahawks player who said he didn't like Arizona this week because the Cardinals had bad body language in Seattle. There we go. Cardinals loaded up on veteran leaders to instill toughness, but it's not enough.
Starting point is 00:10:55 There we go. I actually think that there is something to the body language experts out there that are able to read that. Like you can you can have certain players. I think the list of players that it's OK for them to have bad body language or to not talk to people on the sidelines, it would be a kicker, a punter or like a psycho line batter that nobody talks to because they're afraid they're going to get murdered.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Don't talk to them. They're going to sue. Yeah. Don't talk to James Harrison on the sidelines because they'll rip out one of his acupuncture needles and brain you with it. The government will step on your on your throat or your hand and say it was an accident. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Aaron Donnell will choke you. Yeah. Which by the way punch the guy. Aaron Donnell punched and choked. Yes. Yeah. He's in playoff mode. He's in beast mode.
Starting point is 00:11:36 He day. It feels like a criminal house. He just said I'm just going to start punching people. Yeah. Fucking them up. I do think that we should acknowledge Matt Stafford though for not fucking it up. Yeah. No, he deserves credit.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. He could have fucked it up, but they made it very tough on him to do that. They also monkey is off the back of Matt Stafford right now and they want a game where Cooper Cup wasn't like exceptional. You know what I mean? Cooper Cup didn't have an insane night like he's had this season and Odell Higbee and it can makers. I can makers coming back in five months from from an Achilles is crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Have we figured that out? Was it a partially torn Achilles because five months it was like a hundred seventy five days since he tore it. It's that's way more impressive than J.J. Wyatt coming back in 12 weeks. With a torn labor healthy. Yeah. No, it's very obvious that he wasn't fully healthy.
Starting point is 00:12:21 Now that we're a bank free zone on this podcast, I can admit your free flag fly. Yeah, let it let it all hang out. I had like the same injury that J.J. Watt had back in 2011. I got surgery on and everything 12 weeks after I had the surgery. I couldn't even jack off and he's out there in an NFL game like runner. There's no way that he was a hundred percent granted. I think he has better hands.
Starting point is 00:12:43 I think he might go with a stranger. Yeah, I don't know. It's not the same. I mean, you definitely did. It's not. No, you just didn't jerk off for 12. Correct? That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah, no, not. OK, whatever month it was. There's no way. Yeah. No, no, no, not autumn. Billie as pro is like that's a as bro football doc.
Starting point is 00:13:05 As bro football doc. What's your what's the status of考 makers Achilles? How was he able to come back so quick? Dude, I don't know what these guys are doing nowadays, but modern science has down to a T of hg. I I don't think it was anything special. I just I don't think it was healthy like I don't think he was no I'm in cam acres. Oh cam acres can't look really healthy. J.J. Watt was not I so you think came acres today ch
Starting point is 00:13:28 I think they're all doing a ch got it. Okay, but yeah, it was really impressive watching him be able to he had that burst Yeah, I know he looked like a very good. He said he felt like great again. Yeah playoff cam. It's crazy And now we're set. That was not the best Super wild card weekend. I think we can all say there was One close game that was a ref show for blowouts and one close game that was close because both teams just didn't want to win Yeah, we didn't really have a memorable. Oh my god, that game was awesome Like I'm glued to my TV type of game I have a question for all the AWOs out there because I haven't gotten a satisfactory answer on this yet
Starting point is 00:14:06 But I noticed cam makers had the same almost towel hanging out from his backside that Kyle Jussick had for the 49ers It's like a skinny towel. Yeah, that it looks like he cut up himself. It doesn't really serve any purpose It's not a strap for his uniform for his pads or anything like that It just hangs out the back and we're talking about juice checks on on the stream on Sunday It's almost like a decoy for somebody out there. I think it is and try to tackle like you grab it It's a lizard tail. It's a flat that comes off and you're able to run away with it speaking of which I I can't get enough of the stretchy shirts It's so cool when that happens when a guy it's just when you try to when they try to tackle a guy
Starting point is 00:14:46 And he's 10 10 feet away from his shirt. Yeah, the shirt like unravels as It's just yeah, that probably there's probably some type of shirt technology. They're using as well. Yeah, it's I tackle shirt technology Shout out also to OBJ's dad great job great father Yeah getting him in a position that that he can succeed it like I actually thought the halfway through the season Why is Odell asking to be freed we all did yeah because we saw him playing Cleveland and it wasn't that He was playing well and Baker wasn't finding him. It was that he was just unable to catch the ball Yeah at times and in Cleveland and then he gets to LA and all of a sudden he's really really good again I did see there were some people who were like this just proves that it's all about fit in the NFL and like right place
Starting point is 00:15:29 Right time right teammates scheme everything that is true to an extent Odell also has at times not helped himself True and in terms of like teammate and you know, whatever so it's it both things can be true at the same time Odell Was in the wrong fit wrong scheme wrong everything But he also wasn't exactly like an a-plus model teammate at times, right? With Cliff Kingsbury with this with the shine coming off the star of Cliff as we've seen the last two winners in a row Do you think Ryan Racilla has to like eat his column? He's probably down bad. He's probably down bad. You probably stayed over it After the game. He'll probably keep you know, you got to stay strong. I think but between this and Chris Paul
Starting point is 00:16:12 Yeah, there's a total choke artist. They should just both live with Ryan. Yeah, I mean, he's you know, just keep I think you just got to stick with it You got to stick with it through thick and thin and hope that you come out the other side on skate There's a blame Kyler. That's what I would do if I were still give any advice Blame Kyler get blocked by Kyler and then be like free cliff Kyler You can't win with Kyler. Can you do that with a coach? Freakle it get him to a different Yes, that's actually kind of how Cliff Kingsbury's entire career is going where he gets a job somewhere Performs mediocre Lee at it and then fails upward into a much better job
Starting point is 00:16:47 Correct. So where does it where do we need to get cliff in a perfect position? I think he needs to go I He you know what he needs to do Rogers to Denver Cliff to Denver He needs to coach Aaron Rodgers where he doesn't really have to coach. Yeah, that would be a good fit for him No, that's Matt before we like him. I think that would be a good fit for Cliff if he were to like just inherit Aaron Rodgers quarterback in the NFL. Yes. Yes. All right. So divisional round set awesome game set We will do a preview on Friday of all of those games Before we get to hot seat cool throne. I did want to make a quick announcement I'm sorry to everyone here
Starting point is 00:17:26 That people think a white guy can't enjoy black history Well, yeah, that was gonna be on my my hot seat, but I mean Darren Ravel Maybe the greatest Cell phone 24 hours of all time. You know, he's the least racist white person in history Well, he literally has a card. It's signed by Rosa. It's like him and Thomas Jefferson Yeah, when you think of white guys that are racist, but not really racist So it's Darren Ravel. He has an autographed in double ACP Rosa Parks, which is not autographed. It's literally you sign It's like it's like saying your driver's license is autograph. No, it's not an autograph. It's autograph
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, he got it signed by her. So so for people who don't live online This actually is a time that it's worth bringing him up because it's very very funny. He has over nine Pieces of MLK memorabilia, which actually just means he has 10 over nine was over nine over nine And he showed it off on Martin Luther King, Jr. Day and everyone's like dude this kind of weird because one of the pieces was a log from when Martin Luther King, Jr. Was in jail and he had to sign the log autograph to receive his to receive his mail
Starting point is 00:18:33 And he's like look how cool this is and everyone's like that's kind of weird dude when he was like Wrongfully imprisoned and now and they're telling me donated and they're totally don't he said he should donate it And then he went even further and he was like Well, I bought it from the from the warden of the jail, which is like that's even more exploitative and then he Tweeted and deleted that you can't call him racist because he owns an extensive Martin Luther some of his best memorabilia is black and Also, he has black friends. He has several black friends. Yes. He has upward over Capitalized black. Yes. He has over over nine black friends according to Darren Ravel It was it was so funny because then he hopped into the University of Miami Twitter spaces and defended. We should play it
Starting point is 00:19:17 Let's play his MLK collection. Let's put it in. Let's put it in right now. Sure. I have I have Over nine MLK signed items I am a humongous fan of what he's done And over the last seven years, I've collected a lot of things. It's not only MLK. It's a lot of black history I own a Rosa Parks Signed and NAACP card. So it was pretty shocking today how I was called racist when When I am a student and lover of black history, and it was it was I never expected the reaction that I that I got today
Starting point is 00:20:04 I'm so I'm sorry, I'm sorry if people think that a white man can't enjoy black history I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I really am it. I'm sorry if people think that a white man can't Love Martin Luther King, but to me that seems pretty counterintuitive You got me So yeah, and then at the end when he signs off he goes You got that. Yeah, and they're like, yeah, okay, Darren. We got that He talks about his MLK merchandise like it's shoes like it has it's actually him being like
Starting point is 00:20:43 I got the largest collection of off-whites this side of the Mississippi. Yeah, and then he's like, I bet you I bet you Darin Ravel is considered at least NFT'ing the I Have a Dream speech, of course You know what I'll do. He'll NFT the the black square that people put on their Instagram When everybody did the media blackout last Darin Ravel will NFT that black square and then claim that he is he's the They're true leader of the modern civil rights movement. I just want to know how like he's showing this he feels comfortable showing this He's definitely got some fucked up stuff. Yes. He's like have you seen American Beauty? Yeah He's got some collections like that Muhammad Ata's cell phone behind this like well, it's just he's an interesting person
Starting point is 00:21:24 Yeah, though on this day in history American Airlines stock dropped 20% Fuck man. He's he's just it's so weird cuz you know and this is gonna This is gonna sound stupid because I'm basically admitting that I followed Darin Ravel and not one but two platforms But I do follow him on Instagram. I remember last week He was like showing off one of his MLK Met a piece of MLK memorabilia and I remember thinking oh, he's he's gonna tweet about this on Monday And it's not gonna go well and then that exact same thing happened So it's like it's it's it's almost a cell phone for myself where I'm like I
Starting point is 00:22:03 Follow him on two platforms that I know when he's about to slip up But him slipping up here was the most obvious thing of all time I just I don't follow him at all on anything because my my my life as it revolves around Darin Ravel is basically Well, you won't fight other people will tell me when Darin Ravel is fucking up and by the way The whole I won't I will find him you guys talked me out of fighting him. I heard you wouldn't no I won't you you personally told me don't fight. I heard you wouldn't I said I thought you said I don't want to fight him because he probably could kick my ass. You literally said I Don't want you to fight him because that's what Darin wants. I will yeah, that's true
Starting point is 00:22:40 I will fight Darin Ravel. I required no money to do it if I beat him Darin has to donate his entire MLK collection won't happen all ten pieces of it and his autographed Rosa Parks in double ACP rookie card. He actually has to donate it to the Smithsonian. I want no money I just want to beat him and make American history a little bit better He he actually has a card that if someone's like, hey, dude, you're racist. He's like no Rosa Parks NAACP card right here Mint condition like I have it. It's an I'm not racist card. Yeah. Oh, just I This is gonna sound crazy and I'm sure I'll change my opinion in a week But I actually just like watching this all unfold. I
Starting point is 00:23:25 Think his I think he actually is a net positive on society just because of how terribly out of touch and Insanely hilarious his unintentional comedy is he's like he's actually reached a level where I enjoy him getting dunked on He's he's Sean Bradley who's I think he got hit by a car, right? Yeah, that's probably bad references. He's Bryant Reeves There we go. Yep, or yeah, Rick Smith. Yeah, he's Rick Smith He gets dunked on for sport at this time. Yeah at this point. Uh, so I Think it's just remarkable that Darren has been able to be consistent in this for his entire career Like he has not evolved. He has not changed a bit Considering the amount of negative feedback that he's gotten whenever he fucks up. He just hasn't changed
Starting point is 00:24:10 He has not taken anything and he has not learned any lessons online And I think that's actually an admirable thing. He his brain can't compute like he can't I Watched as people were trying to break it down for him being like you own a piece of history That shows like when Martin Luther King was in jail. It's not his autograph He literally had to sign just to get correspondence. This should be in a museum You own it and you owned it to turn a profit one day because that's what he does with all of his memorabilia So it's fucked up and he's like, no, I love I just love black history I'm sorry that a white man can love Martin Luther King, Jr. And he was like, I just love everything that he's done
Starting point is 00:24:50 Well, oh, yeah name three of his speeches But he did give us Jake, which is nice. That's what I was gonna say. I would not have a job here without him Yeah, so he's in that positive on site. I don't think he should like, you know, there's no cancel Darren Revelle He's I want him to just keep doing I want him to keep living exactly how he thinks he should be living because He's he's side Joe Bob stepping on a rake like every month he will do something in the troll him And yeah, we are almost three years later. So we need to get you like a third good Marshall No, we should get you should get Jake to like collect. I don't know. Maybe maybe Jewish history Yeah pieces of Jewish history that you can show off to him work on it
Starting point is 00:25:26 He but yeah, no, we need to get you some collect something rare. That's like what is this guy doing? I'll think of something unique very weird guy. I'm just glad that he didn't go JFK He's definitely got some fucking bloodied like lapel. Yeah That's what I'm saying. This is not he felt comfortable showing this. I you know, he's got some fucked up stuff very he has to Well, actually, I think I think Revelle might be so out of touch and clueless that he shows everything It might be one of those what you see is what you get with Darren. Yeah, it's just shitty like it What you see is what you get and it just happens to be what you get with Darren is just a clueless out of touch weirdo He hasn't he bought he recently bought a Hugh Hefner Viagra bottle. I said no prescription, right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:26:13 Yeah, yeah, so What a weird weird guy, but I actually have come out on the other end where I'm like, um, I'm happy he exists because He provides Unintentional comedy that you can't like no one else does what he does to that level like last night was so funny watching him Try to defend everyone. He's his defense was literally some of my best memorabilia is black Mm-hmm, and he that's what he was yelling about It's black memorabilia that he's also holding hostage from American
Starting point is 00:26:46 Are we sure that was actually him in the Twitter space last night? Yes. Yeah So Billy you think for an instant that if he had been going viral for his defense of his black memorabilia You think that if that was a fake Darren would have just sat back and not said anything. That's when go getting to woke is bad Yeah, he would you're like that's not really Darren He would have instantly been like that's not me I actually owned over 20 pieces of MLK member because it was so bad. I didn't believe it. No That's what I'm saying. His unintentional comedy is off the charts. It's it's incredible at this point
Starting point is 00:27:21 I just I hope he never stops. Yeah, cuz He still doesn't know that he did anything wrong at all He's like the the internet's being mean to me again They wait till I sell this this This bullet casing from Martin Luther King's assassination for seven billion dollars and I'll be having the last laugh I have an autographed Letter from the director of the FBI telling MLK to kill himself. Yeah, how can I be racist? Yes? Yes?
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Starting point is 00:28:23 It is delicious Kors light is the one I choose when I need to unwind So when you want to hit reset reach for the beer that's made to chill get Kors light in the new look delivered straight to your door Which is your inscarp by going to Kors light comm slash take celebrate responsibly Kors brewing company Golden Colorado Kors light comm slash take Henry Daniel hot seat cool throne my hot seat is Philadelphia Eagles fans. Oh Oh Tough tough weekend for if you're an Eagles fan You guys got absolutely shit pumped on the playoffs you're out Tom Brady's your daddy and then a video surfaced of you're addicted to developing enemies
Starting point is 00:28:58 So like you can't you can't go longer developing it. Yeah, but you're pre-existing, but you're like you're poking an open wound No, I have no choice. I have to just go with what happens in the world and comment on it on this podcast It just so happened that this Eagles fan was in I believe it must have been Las Vegas. Yes There was a Michael Jackson impersonator in the Eagles fan as an Eagles fan does picked a fight with them started throwing punch And then the Michael Jackson impersonator just absolutely beat the shit out of him like he ran to the ground Which is just a funny visual because it's like Michael Jackson personator. Oh boom this guy should be in the UFC he do you think People should respect the tap even in the wild right? Yes, like the whole time. I was watching that video I was like, dude tap just broke tap tap out
Starting point is 00:29:42 I think a guy like that who obviously had MMA training would have respected the tap in that situation Because the guy took him down with the old like step around the back and then and then throw him use your body as a lever And then he positioned himself correctly. So in his mind Michael Jackson was in and he was in a UFC fight Yes, that's as close as he'll ever get to the octagon. So yeah, if you tap I think he stands up. He goes back to his corner moves on You know also shout out that fan because his shirt was incredible It had two Eagles fans at a urinal pissing and then a Cowboys fan shitting in the urinal. It said can't fix stupid. Yeah That's good. That's a good burn. That's just an old-school
Starting point is 00:30:22 Awesome rivalry burn. Yep And then my cool throne these jumpsuits first of all we're all wearing him Me PFT Billy Jake wearing the jumpsuits We had a little photo shoot posted some pictures a lot of people are asking where we can get them You can get them on the barcel sports store And then my other cool throne is just humanity. Hmm. Humanity will not actually Except for Eagles fans except for Eagles fans and Elon Musk thinks that There's gonna have a population collapse and the world's gonna end. So sick. All right
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah, I mean don't we need to kind of thin out the herd a little bit damn a lot of stupid people out there running around that you Can't fix. Yeah, especially in Philadelphia Yeah That's it. Yeah, I didn't mean to go so hard on for Billy Eagles fans, but Now we're just gonna make robots What? Robots robots are gonna replace people. Yeah. Yeah a robot problem. No, I'd be fine with Darren Ravel would never get in trouble again on Twitter. Well, yeah, I mean Darren Ravel is a robot Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He would he would literally like a good point Darren
Starting point is 00:31:21 So hey, can you power rank your current rivalries you have going on right now between fan bases? Which ones? Which ones are the meanest to you? Eagle fans for sure. Yeah, are they the same as Sixers fans? Yeah. Yeah Philadelphia as a as a whole bill's fans are all have been very mean I think it's more fair though. There's much more of a rivalry there, you know the Eagles Eagles fans I don't understand like we beat the Eagles in Super Bowl They be Dustin Super Bowl one-to-one Eagles fans act like they just have complete domination and and and despite the fact That's only super they won in like a thousand years. Hmm, which just doesn't make sense to me. Yeah, Bill's fans
Starting point is 00:31:58 There are some bills fans that are like, hey, you know, not all bills fans are mean We like you bubble-baw are they coming in peace bills fan Yeah, no, there's not been a single Philadelphia person that's coming the slave. I love that of course not I don't want them to yeah, fuck that be who you are All right, PFT your hot seat cool throne. My hot seat is cake Yep, I put cake on the hot seat because well Andy really put cake on the hot seat They asked they asked Andy if the chiefs have the same championship hunger and his answer was if you have a piece of chocolate Shake chocolate cake and you see another dangling in front of you. You're gonna want it
Starting point is 00:32:34 That's how you feel about the Super Bowl. It is the ultimate chocolate cake. Yep, and I love it Andy Reed he just thinks of everything his life as it as it's related to food It's the NFL I had the entire NFL on on the hot seat for that same reason that like once Andy figures out the perfect analogy for wanting to win another Super Bowl you're screwed. Yeah, he said earlier this month I love how this team works together like I love a big piece of prime rib, right? So everything for him. It's like it's everything is a food. So like a touchdown I'd say like a touchdown as a sandwich like a hero sandwich. Yes to him, but he he gets very
Starting point is 00:33:10 Very into his food metaphors and once he starts thinking about food He physically gets hungry and then he's gonna mentally get hungry and then the entire NFL next thing He knows in trouble. Yes. Yes. I love I mean He's the best he's the best my cool throne is Stephen A. Smith Because he came in hot to celebrate the Cowboys Epic collapse on Sunday. He put on the cowboy hat. He did everything he danced around He was laughing at all the fans who were in misery and the entire time I'm watching Stephen A Smith I think just one thing
Starting point is 00:33:42 He really truly has an audience of one for all the celebration. Yes, and that's Skip Bayless. Yes He is sinning. He's he's not sub tweeting Skip Bayless. He is sub living Everything at Skip Bayless. His entire life is a sub tweet to Skip Bayless because he misses him so much Mm-hmm, and they miss their debates together. You can try to convince yourself in line and be like no Skip really likes debating against Dan Orlovsky. No, Skip really likes debating against Max Kellerman Nothing is gonna replace the void that Skip Bayless left in his life And I hope to God that I live to see the day where they reunite on TV again Because there's an entire generation right now kids that's coming through high school coming through college
Starting point is 00:34:24 That never got to live through a Stephen A Smith and Skip Bayless debate show and you have no idea how great it was Yeah, no, you're right. It was he put on he put on a plus performance off of COVID too. Yeah, it was his first time back He was hospitalized. He almost died. Yes. Yes, even a Smith said I would have to the very end I would have died if it wasn't for he said because of the vaccine right Vax Kellerman Yeah, he was he was literally saying he was on death's door And thank God that we didn't when the Cowboys losing brought him back to life. That's probably he he probably Willed himself back to health because he's like I'm not going to die Before I see Mike McCarthy
Starting point is 00:35:05 Run a draw with 14 seconds left in the game. I need to be around for that, but I just the moral of the story is I Just really hope that that skip and Steven a get back together. Did you see there was a lot of people who got fooled by the? Analytics tweet that Mike McCarthy like it was a fake quote that Mike McCarthy That was what the analytics called for the draw play there. No, so I got due by that Yeah, so so people were shaming others for getting due by that. I think it's the opposite It's that Mike McCarthy is so bad that that becomes believable That's a shame on Mike McCarthy. Yeah, you know what I mean like that's so
Starting point is 00:35:41 The fact that there was a multiple people who thought that was real That's not your fault. That is Mike McCarthy That's a dangerous route because we catch a lot of strays with that too What do you mean like if a story comes out about barstool sports? That's just like completely made up about something. Yeah, but this is a harmless and then every real one. Yeah That is a harmless funny story. It's not like, you know, I think that The real story is just as funny as Mike McCarthy saying that the analytics told us to go for that Which is him saying like yeah, we run this 14 second quarterback draw constantly in practice
Starting point is 00:36:15 Yes, and in reality every other coach every other player that's asked about it says yeah, that play takes about 17 seconds Yeah, Jesus Christ so funny. What a clusterfucker. All right, my hot seat was also cake and then my cool throne is LeBron LeBron the coach killer is back. It looks like Frank Vogel might get fired. There's a lot of rumors right now No one does it better than him. No one kills a coach better than LeBron It actually makes me think like Eric Spolster should be in the Hall of Fame right now for not having LeBron You know get him fired. So who does he want? I don't know probably one of it like one of his friends somebody can boss around the thing is I don't think LeBron ever thinks a step ahead before he gets a coach fired. I don't think he's got he doesn't have a succession plan
Starting point is 00:36:58 Yeah, they're there apparently they're like going game by game To decide whether he's gonna keep his job We're on there. So it says vocal coach the Lakers to a championship in 2020 and his contract runs through 2022 23 campaign is being evaluated on a game-to-game basis and remains at risk of being fired soon If the progress doesn't continue Which which one of his sons is the one that the nerd was based off in space jam to Bryce Maximus Yeah, Bryce Bryce probably plays a lot of 2k, right? Mm-hmm. That'd be very funny if he had a son coach the team you could do it Yeah, I mean why not? He's no one kills a coach better than LeBron. This is gonna be so fun
Starting point is 00:37:37 They're they're essentially saying that like After every game brought Ron's gonna come off the court and just be like already keeps his job one more Just give him the luck like yeah, he's just doing the fucking gladiator up and down after every game for Frank Vogel's life Can he can you trade a coach? You can I don't know who would want Frank Vogue. Yeah, I don't know well I don't know if you could trade a coach after your Announce or have reports that he's on a game-to-game basis That's such a tough spot to be in if you're if you're gonna go coach LeBron because you know that you'll have some success
Starting point is 00:38:10 Right, but you also know that you'll be very publicly humiliated It's also tough of your game-to-game and like Russell Westbrook's one of your worst players, but you have to play him Yeah, but if you try to keep your job that dunk was a sick dunk. Sick dunk. Shout out Russ. That was a sick dunk All right, Billy your hot seat cool throne my hot seat is us air shipping and travel turns out a bunch of them your line CEOs said that the new 5g Radars are getting put on for telecommunications once they get turned on it's gonna affect a bunch of their planes landing systems and That they're gonna have to ground all us air and travel tomorrow Tomorrow. Yeah today it actually is gonna happen
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yeah, I mean it's been they wrote a letter to be like really yeah, they open they open lettered 5g exactly Yeah, so it's supposed to by the way 5g's already happened in Asia and Europe already this might not happen in America All the commercials are 5g 5g 5g 5g. I don't know the precise reason why but this might be another you can't use your cell phone on a Plane type situation. I can just as a more annoying version of 5g. I think this is really just a move to like Re-up that like oh, you can't use your cell phone anymore on planes. Yeah, I don't kill me I don't know this this to me reminds me of the the Y2k scare where it was like planes won't work Everybody is gonna be living. It's gonna be the apocalypse, right? Yeah, we're gonna be running around with like with with torches trying to find their way in the dark
Starting point is 00:39:35 the exacts is that rate RADALT Technologies affected by 5g waves and gives false readings of no planes tomorrow So there might not be planes tomorrow, but who knows might not actually be true I think they're just gonna use it to tell people they can't use their cell phone on planes anymore That's gonna really fuck with coaching searches. Mm-hmm And my cool throne is running's cool running's the Jamaican bobsled team has qualified for the 2020 Olympics Oh, let's go. Feel the run. Yeah, there is the Olympics this year. Get on up. That's before the Super Bowl. Bobsled time. Not excited at all. No, you know, it's gonna be funny though. Great movie
Starting point is 00:40:10 So like everybody is boycotting these Olympics. It'd be very funny if are we I we should yeah for political reasons We are they China China Damn, I feel like why everyone but the NBA is no fans either Everybody except for Jamaica fucking any should boycott these winter Olympics so Jamaica can get a gold medal in the bobsled I'd be I'd be fine with that But yeah, I'm down to boycott. Yeah, I'm gonna boycott too. All right Don't we're not to go and say warriors done with their owner said yesterday. No It was pretty fucked up. They asked him about the Uighurs in the concentration camps and he was like, yeah
Starting point is 00:40:48 I'll be honest with you. I just don't care There's a line of things that I care about yikes and that is beneath the line of Things that I'm supposed to care about good to know where his line is I I at least respect the fact that he's being honest about it. Yeah, everybody else in the NBA is just like Please stop asking me that question But at least he's like, yeah, you know what? I make a lot of money. So I don't care about people that are getting put into camps. Yes I mean, that's we're boycotting. So we're better than him. Give us the warriors. I'm not even you know what? I'm not gonna mention the Olympics this entire winter. I probably will mention it. Me too, but I'm gonna boycott it
Starting point is 00:41:22 Yeah, yeah Hank or no, I mean Jake. Sorry My hot seat is any athlete not named Marcus Mariota or Novak Djokovic because happy Marcus Mariota and Why why because a year ago I listened to the clip this morning Uh, it was just to remember that they exist specifically Mariota. Then we talked about yeah It's kind of good timing with Djokovic freedom. Yeah, but Marcus Mariota does exist and I actually Now he's probably just a backup now. I mean, he looked good whenever he played Yeah, but it was like they were kind of gadget plays
Starting point is 00:41:56 I I graded all of his plays from this year and he averaged out at a minus on film I was gonna say my grade was 87.6. No, I had a 91.2. So in well, mine's out of 95. Yeah, okay. So that's that's an a Yeah, okay, same page. Yes. It's the second ever day for that We were going back and forth on the date We moved it back a few days because we didn't want to interfere with Hank sister's birthday. Got it. All right Happy birthday to Hank sister. All right. So I'm adding yesterday about yeah, Mark. Oh, yeah, I remember this now Yeah, Marcus Mariota way to go. Yeah, that was a year ago We love you. You're welcome to come on the show. Same with joker. Wait, let's see if he blocks us
Starting point is 00:42:33 I don't have that many people blocking us In sports, it feels like you do an all-block list of like Brooklyn writers or something that would be extensive. Did you ever play after that concussion? Yeah, yeah, he came back and he was suited up He got in a couple times. Yeah, he was suited up for for the playoff game. So good for him Yeah, back on the show every year, uh, january 19th, and then my cool throne is the vermont catamounts Making my return to burlington this weekend calling the game on espn 3 everyone, please tune in big cat This gives you one team in green and yellow to cheer for on saturday night
Starting point is 00:43:13 Oh, because the package are playing. Yes. Um, so I was thinking about that. Uh, I was thinking about like They better cover Yeah No They better cover. Yeah, they're want to know right or yeah my Broadcasts are want to know and yes, but they're they are bet they better cover because I'm going to watch this game Okay, the whole game. I hope they do and I'm going to bet on it Yeah, espn 3 saturday seven o'clock. So you better know the spread and you better
Starting point is 00:43:44 Put her announce around it. I want to see I want to hear I want to hear it You'll hear it. Okay. I want to hear it. You'll hear the reference if it's like a six or seven point spread Yeah, if it's close, you'll hear it. Yeah, but it's natural. What's your wink going to be? You have like your your signature wink. I don't know. It's going to be a big number They're playing hartford who's to tell you usually it's somewhere around ken palm. So let's look ken palm has him winning by 18 I think okay, so let's say it's a let's say it's an 18 point spread And there's two minutes left and they're up 20
Starting point is 00:44:17 and hartford hits a three What are we saying? Because I can give you want some advice. Yeah, and hartford just came back and now they're winning That's what you should say and he has a son folks. Yeah, but like if it's a blowout and now it's it like that And hartford takes a lead by one as they're down 17 So, yeah, everyone please tune in. Yes. If you don't tune in your fucking scumbag facts. Yeah, who are you working with? Uh, bernie supplickey former catamount. Love it. Okay. How's your chemistry with him? It's great We did some work together when I was there as holds bird radio voice. Uh, I don't know a specific number
Starting point is 00:44:57 I believe he's a father Yeah, do you guys do like a steak dinner before the game? No night before be nice to know each other. Yeah What if what if we gave you some money take them out for a steak dinner? Yeah, do it because you always have to say like I always hear like out michael's being like, you know We went out for a steak last time. I just assumed that it's a normal thing that yes every announcer has steak fair Oh If there's shrimp, I'll tweet about it. Okay. Okay. Yes. Yes. So there won't be probably not vermont in the winter
Starting point is 00:45:26 It's not a lake, but yeah Saturday night. All right, let's get to it braxton barrios great interview coming up Before we get to braxton, I want to talk to you about our great friends over at helix sleep I actually had an experience uh earlier this summer where changing my mattress changed my life I was sleeping on a mattress that was way too soft I always thought that soft equals good when it comes to mattresses Not the case. It turns out my back was all kinds of screwed up sleeping on a more firm mattress helped me out immensely Changed my life. That's not an exaggeration. My life is different now that I'm on a more firm mattress
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Starting point is 00:47:05 That's what you guys were waiting for They're giving you 200 dollars off all mattress orders and you get two free pillows for listeners at helix sleep comm slash pmt That's helix sleep comm slash pmt 200 bucks off all mattress orders and two free pillows. Here's braxton barrios Okay, we now welcome on a very very special guest it is well, he's going to be a free agent It's braxton barrios. He is uh all pro brax brax and barrios Like let's start there. That's got to be pretty cool. You made all pro as a kick returner That's and that's insane like people all pro is something we should celebrate more because there's one pick for each position You're all pro appreciate it. Uh, yeah, I I was
Starting point is 00:47:53 I was shocked. I was actually I just got back from a vacation. So I was Getting my coffee. I had actually sat down looking at the ocean, you know, very nice peaceful friday morning And uh, it just came up on my phone And it was like a twitter notification and it wasn't from like a big source like it wasn't from like the ape, you know Associated press it was just like another case. So I looked at it And then I started texting people like hey, is this real, you know, because like, you know, you can't believe what you see on twitter Right And so I I texted is this real and then all of a sudden it actually came out like from the nfl and called my mom called my dad
Starting point is 00:48:25 Like I was I was elated and not only that you are a free agent right now So it's got like that was probably the second thought like oh, shit now Yeah, you're not signing just brax and barriers. You're signing all pro brax and various like that that definitely changes. It's amazing It's amazing what that designation changes. Yeah, no, it was uh, Yeah, I I cried. I mean why I cried. I thought I thought it was awesome man card And it's also like I mean kick returners. There you go kick returners It's a thankless position. It's you know a position that you've seen in the nfl kind of Wayne because of the kickoff rules and stuff. So
Starting point is 00:49:01 Yeah, you can't you can't take that take that away from the game. Yeah, you just can't it's it's it's an exciting part of the game And whether it's like, okay, you score or you get absolutely crushed. It's still a big party That's it. Yeah, like it's got to be a a scary position to play Oh, yeah, and I but I will wholeheartedly say punt return is scarier than kickoff return, but You will get hit harder on kickoff return because they have more speed They've been running I mean they they're running from 60 yards, you know, and you know One one guy doesn't block or messes up the block or you know, doesn't get them hardly at all and like it's a full 60 yard start Yeah, I think sometimes people forget that but when you watch even a touchback if the kick goes straight into the end zone
Starting point is 00:49:40 You'll see that you know the referee signals for a touchback great call great great arm signal And then you know three seconds after that you'll see guys still slowing up sprinting in the end zone Because they were going that fast when they got to the 20 they had to just they just coasted and they just coasted all the way And so yeah, it's a it's a full on ahead on collision. Yeah, and who votes for all pro It's the actual like media. So like that the actual people in the nfl So it's not like the pro bowl where it's like fans and like yeah popularity contest The all pro is like I think it's like the 50 of the top like media of the nfl It's similar to the mvp vote. I'm pretty sure it's almost the exact same
Starting point is 00:50:17 I think it's the same people because I remember I looked up There's one year that's very very weird and I'd have to double check it that like Joe montana made the all pro but john elway won the mvp, which like never happens. Usually all pro Tells you who's gonna win the mvp. But yeah, it's a crazy. It's awesome for you. Um, so Your career Like let's just get this out of the way the jokes that were made when you were coming out of college And being like you're gonna get drafted by bill balachek when that actually happened Were you like is this is this a prank because I think there's there's very few times where someone where we see a player in college
Starting point is 00:50:51 We're like, oh, that's he's definitely get drafted by the patriots and then it happened then it actually happened. Yes Yeah, no, I you know, I heard it all coming out and when it actually happened. I was like, wow You guys are right. He does have a type. Yeah. I looked back at my tweets in In 2017 I said congratulations to future new england patriot Braxton barriers And then danie woodhead got involved. I remember danie woodhead was the guy that actually He turned me on to you. He was like, yo, this guy's not just sneaky fast. He's fast fast. That's the worst That's the worst the whole sneaky fast deceptively. Yeah equipment. That's the that's the worst
Starting point is 00:51:25 What's the most important thing to have a receiver like you is that I've always thought it's wiggle Do you have wiggle? I have wiggle. Yeah, it is important Wiggles important and like of course like I hate saying this but like quickness is important Especially because you're going across the middle, right? It's like you got to be able to like, you know, you got linebackers in there and safety's coming from 10 yards Like you need some wiggle. Yeah. So then what was the conversation when bellichick had to cut you because you know, you had an injury they had They were trying to fill up their roster spot with four or five guys for wide receiver. Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:56 Was he did he cry when he had to cut you? He's like, I I loved you since the second I set eyes on you Yeah, it was uh, it was it was a tough conversation. Obviously and um, you know, he was obviously very he was very Complementary and you know, they're they're very professional about everything they do and and that's the problem I mean when you get injured over there, it's it's it's a little different. Um, you know It's it's looked upon differently than than other places And it's just that's what it was. Yeah, and you know, it luckily it landed me on my next spot And that kind of led me to here. So it's what it is. It wasn't uh, it wasn't a fun time
Starting point is 00:52:29 Well, and you had the rare one where I think I read that uh bellichick called Adam gays and was like you got Yeah, so really good one here. So gays actually told me that story towards the end of that season So we were sitting in a walkthrough on saturday And somehow it came something came up and and he said uh, by the way, I never told you the story And he told me that story where you know, he bellichick called him and he thought it was about demaris thomas at the time Because demaris thomas was with me in new england at the time and then he came over to new york And he said he he had nothing he didn't talk about demaris at all and he said hey And you you really had a good one. We wish we could have kept them
Starting point is 00:53:04 And you know, it's it's cool. Obviously hearing that from right bill bellichick, right, uh, but yeah Okay, so some would say I've heard people say that you're undersized, but you're five eight and five eighths You're the perfectly average size person It doesn't get any more perfectly average size than that. I used to be five nine, but then I got covid now i'm five eight Um, does it to your spine? It does it compresses it. It's it's a shame. So stay safe. I hope that you're vaccinated Um, but being a smaller wide receiver in the nfl Is there any advantage at all to being a little bit on the smaller side?
Starting point is 00:53:38 Because there might be certain things that guys are used to playing against bigger taller wider Is there anything like any small tiny little thing that we might not think about that? It might actually help to be a little bit shorter. I mean, I I guess to uh Yeah, I mean I can I can avoid hits a little better, you know a little a little quicker, you know Because like, you know, you see two or three guys coming at one time and you just you find we call it find a pocket Yeah, like I can find a pocket a little bit, you know hundreds quicker than guy who's six one can So like that's obviously a a plus there. There's less of you to hit exactly and you're you're closer to the ground
Starting point is 00:54:14 I actually think that that is true being able to fall correctly in the in the nfl. Oh, it's a huge skill Yeah, you got getting tackled is a skill. Yes, you got to learn how to fall And like that's why you see a lot of people with like shoulders when they get tackled Because like and sometimes you get caught let's be honest, but yeah, you got to learn how to fall Like there's right and wrong ways to fall. Yes, it's not always worth it fighting for an extra yard No, no, yeah, you have your ankle getting your body in the right position Absolutely couldn't have said better myself. Um, we got to talk about the you because it's back You're back. I mean, yeah, and crystal ball and also the nil deals
Starting point is 00:54:48 Dude, oh, let's start there. Yeah, I mean, that's another story. Are you sitting there like fuck? I really wish that I was Four years younger than I am because I could have gotten some nice money. Yeah, no a thousand percent. I think It's obviously a great thing. I think college athletes should be paid Yeah, but I also think it should be regulated in some sense I the way that they're doing it is kind of a free for all see that's interesting You'd say that because I would think Miami would be one of those schools that like let's just have it be Like if you're a northwestern fan or like an Oregon state fan, you're like we need to regulate Because we're never going to be able to compete. Oh, absolutely from a recruiting standpoint. Yeah, Miami has the upper hand on
Starting point is 00:55:27 95 plus percent of colleges right a year in Miami and like that was always a thing like My thing was like, where did you want to be in like January and February? Like in college right football's over like where do you want to wake up and like go to school and like walk outside? And obviously that was a no-brainer and so from a football standpoint NIL is like the best thing that ever happened because now you can use all that you had And now tack on money to it and that you're in the city of Miami. Yeah. No, they run away with that So you would have you would have done nicely. I know I know you were recruited you recruited by some big big time schools Ohio State Clemson
Starting point is 00:56:01 Um, who else was on that list? Uh, or again, or they were considering Oregon. So You know now that we have NIL and recruiting is talked about so much and obsessed about so much How like what was the besides whether what was the difference maker between Miami and the other schools? And like what was the pitch that you almost went to? So I was very close to going to Tennessee Interesting. I was very close to going to Tennessee and honestly what won Miami was that my dad's from Miami and I grew up a Miami fan
Starting point is 00:56:32 So I grew up a hurricanes fan a dolphins fan all that so literally loyalty kind of won that over right because like, you know, I went to Knoxville and it was the Tennessee Georgia game and it was the checkered game So, you know kneeling was checkered. There's a hundred and seven thousand It went into overtime Tennessee ended up winning I think like it as good as it could have been on a visit It was and it actually happened to be my birthday that weekend too. So like it was just So that was like my last visit. So that was october like sixth weekend and in the twelfth It's when I committed so like after that I was like, oh man
Starting point is 00:57:06 And you saw the power tea and all that stuff. Yeah, and I mean it was awesome It was a college like, you know not powerhouse necessarily But in the sense of like football like it was hard to beat kneeling stadium Do you think most guys do it off of like that visit has a big effect or is it facilities? I'm just so I'm just fascinated by recruiting just because it's going to change so much in the next You know 10 years or 15 years or is it the staff is like like I know Sabin probably just says Do you want to be a pro? Yeah, if you want to be a pro you come here and then we'll make and they don't and they I mean they earn that
Starting point is 00:57:39 They don't really recruit right like that. They don't I think it's I think it's very personal to like the person. Yeah, um I don't think there's one thing gets all but I will say like official visits like to games Like I think that can like make or break, you know So like if you're playing a bad team and you know, the stadium's not going to be filled like maybe not have officials Yeah that weekend like I think that could be like a bad thing Do you think winning and losing that game matters because I love I mean I just love fanatical crazy college football fans and they'll be like, yeah
Starting point is 00:58:08 We not only lost but we had this guy this guy and this guy in the end. So I think that has almost unless you get like blown Like embarrassed. Yeah, I don't think winning or losing matters and official visits. Yeah I always think it's like the last visit you take has that's the one that's fresh in your mind Yeah, recency. Yeah, the recency buys is a very real thing for anybody But especially for like a 16 17 year old kid that's making this decision And you know, the last place they're at they're gonna remember that in their heads They're gonna be like, yeah, you know what I had the best time of my life last weekend But I think this might be better. So you want to be that the last coach to talk to a guy
Starting point is 00:58:40 But what about um, what about people that like random adults tweeting at you when you're 17 being like, hey Come to Knoxville. We need you not like did I have any effect on you? No, I think it's like I think it's like cool until it becomes weird You know, I think there's a fun like it's it's cool like when the fan base like now knows who you are You know and you got offered from that school and like that first like week cool And then I think like after that like it becomes a little weird and almost annoying So you go ahead. I was gonna say did you uh, did you have any hand in creating your own like Highlight reel from from high school or did somebody else do that for you?
Starting point is 00:59:11 No, did you have like input to the soundtrack on it? No, I think somebody else did my formula Well, first it was like huddle, you know, like that was like Complete coaching staff like and I think I ended up Doing a little bit of that as well and then like whatever is on like youtube. I had no control You know, like I had no hand in that. Yeah, it's always um, it's always let the bodies hit the floor Headstrong is another big one and then sometimes they'll put like nickel back as a soundtrack But it's really down with the sickness. There's like four songs that you can put as your as your mixtape So while we're talking about crazy college football fans, um, are you aware of dany boy kane?
Starting point is 00:59:48 He's so funny. They told me you're gonna bring him. Well, he's the biggest kane fan in the world Yeah, aware not but aware, but okay. Good. So shout out him. Can you shout him out shout out dany boy kane? There we go That's all I wanted about hulk a kaniak. No, no Do you think the you will actually be back because it is one of that game against Notre Dame when you scored Uh, I remember just sitting there being like this is it like the you is back This is what it should feel like a big saturday night game. Miami packed house And then obviously you guys were not back, uh, even close to back I think you lost in like shreveport to louisiana tech or something not that year that year
Starting point is 01:00:31 We went to the orange ball. Okay. All right for the year after yeah four and then after yeah Yeah, that was the easiest bet of my life like miami goes to shreveport december. I don't think they want to be there Shreveport was it because we went there my freshman year as well. Yeah, I don't think they want to be there. They have casinos Yeah, I think they have two casinos they do is like margaritaville and like one other one. Yeah. Yeah, I've been to both I've been thrown out of one. Uh, it's always gray in shreveport It's in the south. Yes, the sky color is just gray overcast, but it never rains. It's just that's exactly how it was for our game It was like a light light rain. It was like a mist and then it would shut off and then mist again Yeah, you guys don't want to be here. So it's zero to ten
Starting point is 01:01:08 Ten being all the way back. Where are they right now? Well, like you said like the Notre Dame college game day We're supposed to get blown out all it like that was Highlight of college career like that was awesome. Yeah, like the coolest thing ever you do the convict Touchdown yeah, yeah So really like that was a moment where you said like we were like We might be back right and then lost last game of season and then in the ac championship game to Clemson and uh, I think now I think I think chrysalis the right guy and
Starting point is 01:01:40 my thing is like Even alabama right even alabama in alabama's prime and also clemson had to run, you know recently too like Those teams like the u back in those days was like dominating everybody 24-7 like it was just different and the land the landscape of college football was different So I think to get back there is probably impossible, you know, because it's just like it's a different day and age But I think the u can still mean something and I think chrysalis the guy to do it Like right now we're like at a at a three, you know a three out of ten Yeah, like we have the u on our helmet. We have the turnover chain and like I think he's gonna get done
Starting point is 01:02:16 Get rid of that. I think you have to paul chris. I'm a i'm a wisconsin badger paul chris killed the turnover chain Yeah, was that were you in that game the orange bull? Yeah, that was yeah, okay. So yeah He killed it when he when a guy like a true midwestern dude wearing like gray sweatpants is like turnover chain my ass It's over. It's dead. It was tough. Well, I think we should have a rule like if we're losing more than like 14 points The turnover chain doesn't no props. Yeah, no props. Were you ever allowed like as an offensive player? Were you allowed to look at? Did you ever like get close to it or they're like this is a defensive thing? No, no, no, we got we could get close to it and also like if we're on special teams
Starting point is 01:02:51 Like a couple of offensive guys got it. I never did. Yeah, uh, but you know any turnover counted If you so if on offense you had thrown like an interception you chased the guy down knocked the ball out and recover it Yeah, do you get the job? I'm definitely running off the field for a play to get the turnover. Yeah. Yeah, that was you gotta take advantage I forgot that was that orange bull. Yeah, that must have sucked though because paul chris did like He's got the least swag of any coach in america and I love him, but he yeah, he ended it for you Yeah, it was tough That was that was a tough loss and it was that that game was in miami. It was in miami. It was a home game Yeah, we killed you right? Uh 10 points. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I never was doubting it though. Let's just say that. I wasn't uncomfortable
Starting point is 01:03:30 Fair enough. Yeah All right, so bad like I do just want miami to be back. It's one of those schools good for college football Right and it's like they're the bad guy. It's just fun I actually love the fact that they're Outwardly being like here's all the money. We're paying nil. I want that to happen. You know what I mean? Yeah, well, that's like that's their pool now Right, they're using that's that's one of the biggest pools like we haven't been one of the best in the acc for Three four whatever years more than that
Starting point is 01:03:56 Well, we went to acc championship game four years ago. Yeah, but Clemson is no Clemson was far and away far in a way And I think they won the next championship that year too. Yeah. Yeah, no, they are they're the peak of acc until this year Yeah, the good news is the acc kind of sucks now That's the best part about Clemson season everyone's like Clemson sucks like they won 10 games And they lost by seven to the national championship But the acc was just bad this year just like no It's very easy to be what is it king turd on shit mountain If you can pay enough money and if you can be like to use back come here. Look what we're doing
Starting point is 01:04:29 Um, there's definitely like an opportunity. There's a window for you to be back I think I saw something this morning on instagram where it like listed there was like 20 guys almost that got paid like anywhere from 35k to 50k. Yeah, no, yeah, that was yesterday. They announced it. Yeah I think it was with with you guys with the Rosenhaus guys. Yeah. Yeah Let's get and go to the you you get paid We're going to get back to braxton in a second But before we do want to talk to you about hello fresh Hello fresh is uh a great meal prep service. It's delicious. It's fast. It's easy
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Starting point is 01:06:59 Hey, man, we're trying to work through some other stuff over here Like I know that we're not going to get blitzed every down on sunday Can you maybe just like dial it back a little bit for a few plays? Is that is that remotely true? And the competition periods 1000 because but those are hey you call your defense will call our offense Yeah, uh, not in the scouting periods because he has you know, the offense handles the defense on the scouting period So that's not necessarily true. But um, yeah, he just loved to blitz. He big big cover zero guy That's all the time. I like that. Um, zack wilson. We'll talk about him. But before we talk about zack wilson
Starting point is 01:07:34 Did you get caught up in mike white hype like we did? That's like that's that's my guy. I mean, we thought he was Joe Montana Absolutely. I mean he come he starts his first game in four years those for 400 yards and four or five I mean like yeah, we were how could you not we were we were all the way swept up And I mean my bangles are what the number? Yeah, they're good to you guys were tight. Yeah, you you beat the titans and the bangles Yeah, did you think about telling mike? Like hey, you should fake you should pretend that you sprained your ankle That's whatever I said like just walk walk off on that one. You know that was pulling your tone to your brown But no, no, he was he was in his own He was feeling it and like he came on the mediums like well if you ask me I should have been the number one pick
Starting point is 01:08:10 Like you love that. Yeah, you absolutely love that like as your quarterback. Yeah, that's phenomenal. How how was uh Like Zach Wilson's rookie year. I you know dealing with a rookie who has to get everything thrown at him A team that you know is in a rebuilding phase. Do you think did you see it? Did you see the flashes? You're like, okay, this guy's legit. No, absolutely And you can like there's flashes all throughout the year, you know like the tennessee like point and quarry davis like making a play within a play And you know, obviously he got hurt until he was out whatever those few weeks And then he came back and like was a
Starting point is 01:08:42 It was a better You know learned a lot in that time and was a better version of himself in the second half than he was in the first half of The year and like, you know, you see that growth within one season and like you got to take in Learning the offense completely like learning your teammates completely. You have the new york media you have and then it's in a full Football, you know, it's it's it's going to be tough for anybody and obviously, you know a rookie is it's just heightened that much Do you think he should maybe ditch the headband when you guys are getting your ass kicked because that always it's similar to turnover chain When you're getting your ass kicked and you have a headband it's like no, no, no, take that off But that's him. Yeah, I think you got to still take it off. You think you just got to it's like a mood ring
Starting point is 01:09:20 He just has to like, all right, we're getting our ass, so He takes it off. He's just throwing up the white flag and saying yeah, I'm well Then you could fake him out and take it off and then come back on him But then you're then you're playing with yourself. Well, no you're playing with them. No, you're not allowed to do that He's a Mormon I'm sorry. He set me up for it. Yeah ladder days are for the boys That's what we say around here um
Starting point is 01:09:41 All right, so who who's the most? Influential guy in the pro level on your career. I have an answer, but I want to hear your answer first Growing up Devin Hester Okay, which is like funny because like I'd never really been a kick-returner for a whole season until this year And you know, obviously all pro but like growing up like he was like my my idol. Yep. Yep. Yep. What were you gonna say? I was to say Julian Edelman because you Have figured out a way to post a ton of pictures with your shirt off on Instagram, which I'm I'm guessing Edelman's like It was like playbook in one hand and then Instagram and the other and and Jules was like, all right
Starting point is 01:10:19 So anytime you're anywhere near a beach make sure you get at least like four or five pictures so you can see but I didn't think He was that big of a shirt off guy Did you ever see his father's day post where he's like happy father's day? Love you dad and it was just a picture of his dad like over his shoulder while he had his shirt off Like you couldn't even see his dad. All you could see was Jules abs. That was a self suck But you you're pretty you do I mean look if you got it flaunt it But was Jules did he say that to you like hey, man the key to this league is make sure you have your shirt off whenever You're taking an Instagram picture. He was instrumental in a lot of things Instagram was was not one of them
Starting point is 01:10:57 But I mean, you know, we had a few conversations. Maybe it was just yeah, he just influenced you without you even knowing exactly Yeah, did uh, did anyone ever accidentally call you julian or west around the Patriots facility? Not actually on purpose. Absolutely. Not accidentally It's like we got another west. This is west three. Yeah. Well speaking of mike white like he refers to julian as like dad So yeah, have you talked to your dad recently? Like that's Yeah, these pictures you you had a stretch there where it was just shirt off every day. I'm looking at julian julian's actually cleaned up I'm like
Starting point is 01:11:35 That like the father's day one was a little you literally wouldn't know you wouldn't be able to see his dad in the picture So it was like He's like those tiktok kids who were like, you know, like shout out nana and then like nana's dying right behind him and they're doing Yeah Shout out my dad hear my abs I mean, you You're a good-looking dude. So you I guess you deserve to do it man card No, yeah, listen, we we're supporting each other in 2020. Yeah guys. Yeah, yeah, right. Love that
Starting point is 01:12:06 We can say that about each other. So keep posting them Just be careful about how many because then we will start like probably our fans are gonna get in your mentions now Like oh shit thirst trap That's just a mental game though. If you can overcome that you can overcome anything. Okay. Yeah What the games begin you had uh, you had one of my favorite plays of the year this year which was the design lateral downfield Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was sick. So cocaine. Is that what it's called? Yep. It's called the the play is called cocaine That was it from Adam Gase's days. What was wow? That's amazing. That was his code Yeah, that was that was that was the play call. Yeah, so it's a it's a great play
Starting point is 01:12:44 I'm a big advocate of more planned downfield laterals and football. I think it'll change the game if you can execute it If you can execute it, I know a few teams. Yeah I know a few teams tried it and teams tried it and it didn't go so well Right because they don't they don't coach the players to throw the laterals correctly They don't coach the players to stand at adequate distance behind the player and then run onto the ball, right? But you you worked it out perfectly Yeah, we we had that one in the playbook actually for a few weeks And like, you know, we'd put it in when the defense on third and whatever third and long long Would give us a look and so finally we got we called it and everybody in the huddles like smiling
Starting point is 01:13:19 They're like, all right. Well, this is going one or two ways and it worked. Yeah Phenomaly it's great when when teams run it when it's not a desperation Situation because if it's desperation the other team sees it coming a mile away Absolutely, and they're able to defend it cost them turnovers like in a second quarter or something Yeah, it was like in the second quarter and if you throw it towards the sideline Then if you miss it, it goes out of bounds not a big deal Really no harm done. Um, I just I want you to continue. I want to give you positive reinforcement on that play And hope that you get it. Yeah, it is a cool play when it's when it works. Yes, yes
Starting point is 01:13:51 Tell coach like let's I know this podcaster who's very happy with the fact that you ran this play We should continue doing that. Do we please? I'll give them a call Whoa, you're talking to the Jets right now Why are you being tampered with of course? No, I think I don't are you open to being tampered with? All right, so you guys have started You guys have started talks We've talked We've talked. So let's do a headline grab. What's your favorite city in america?
Starting point is 01:14:20 You like miami raleigh, north katalana raleigh north. Oh, okay Panthers. Oh, you want to be reunited with sam darnold. Did that hurt your feelings sometimes when people were like What like sam darnold hasn't gotten a fair shot his best receivers brax and barrios? Yeah, no, that hurts. Absolutely. Yeah, and luckily I don't see many of that Somehow it comes off and it's like, yeah, it's like all zack wilson had brax and barrios I'm sorry This is like my bad. Just a total you're just minding your own business. Yeah, exactly I didn't hurt anybody. Um, are you looking to maybe try to get out of the afc east for the first time in your career?
Starting point is 01:14:58 I'm indifferent I'm indifferent. Like I like I don't I don't look at I don't look at it as like Oh, I want to go to this division or this conference, you know, I got that's not That's not like where my head's at at least what's uh, if you're if you're listing your values for what you're looking for in a football team Well, yeah, here the values that potentially a football team has. Um No state income tax Near a beach Or brutally cold list those three power rank those
Starting point is 01:15:28 Power rank. Yeah, out of three. Oh, yeah, like what's most important? Out of those. Yeah, no state income tax. Okay. All right, then I would say beach. Okay, and then brutally cold. Okay So miami. Yes, there's dolphins or the box. You're gonna do Danny amondola. Yeah, you could go to the box You go to the box. You could yeah follow tom brady Has tom given you a call were you I'll rephrase that were you offended when tom did not give you a call to be like Hey, come down to Tampa Bay with me. No. No, I I understand my place there Wasn't it isn't there yet. It is fair though to say you are a Super Bowl champion, right? Technically, you've got a ring. I do. Yeah. Do you
Starting point is 01:16:08 Now is that ring that you like would take out and wear or no? No, never. It's I mean, it's it's it's huge Hey, but also it's just not like maybe like for one thing, you know, like but I don't even know what that one thing is Like where I would wear it to like I don't know an appropriate setting a reunion of that team That would probably be it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, what do you think your like most important contribution to that team was that year? Well, obviously not much on the field But you have to Very clear, but you have to tell yourself like you were on that team Yeah, no no doubt and that's and it's that you do and that like is like the hard part like as a competitor
Starting point is 01:16:46 It's like, you know, like you see it and like obviously it's it's very good And you can say that you have a ring and you know, I do and all that's great But it like it sucks on the other sense But I mean, I was still there. I was in the meetings. I Honestly, I did most of the scouting reports like each week and like I'd give them to all the guys So like yeah, I try to uh help in any way I can that's I mean bellichick's probably the best coach to have that Uh, to to be on a team where you're not getting a lot of uh field time But you're on the practice squad because he probably is like he's the most important part of the organization
Starting point is 01:17:17 Like bellichick would definitely I was on IR. Yeah, I wasn't yeah Yeah, yeah, but like he like he was the most important part. Yeah, no I mean and and honestly like the the learning the pure learning experience there is like absolutely invaluable Like that that that whole year like I I learned more about like Football and then, you know, obviously got to listen to brady take over a meeting and say hey guys Like this is how I look at it. Like this is and like that Going to that to now, you know a rookie quarterback Like I can start to see like okay what he's saying and like everybody says like be friendly to the quarterback
Starting point is 01:17:48 Yeah, I know when the coverage goes all which way. He's like I know what he feels is open and like that's where I'm Going to try to show up It's funny you say like the the competitor in you because obviously if you make the nfl you have an insane competitive drive And you know, you're able to do things that you know 99.9999 percent of the world can't But I hear that and I'm like man I would love to win a ring just like being on the bench and never playing Like never having any pressure and just being like a dude that hangs out Yeah, but it feels much better when like you feel like you're you know, yeah, yeah, exactly
Starting point is 01:18:21 Yeah, there's a big difference like if I stepped onto the field. I'd probably die Like if that'd be the most scary part of my entire year I would hate stuff like I want to be on the sideline. Yeah, like I see I like watching rooting them on Yeah, I watch an NBA team. I'm like the 12th man. That guy's cool. I want that guy's all I'm the first guy to put your fours up at the start of the fourth quarter. Yes. I get that ringleader Yeah, exactly. I actually truly was that guy in high school football I was I played a little bit of wide receiver kicker and a little bit of scout team fullback
Starting point is 01:18:52 Which I was way too small to be playing had no business doing How much of your Time is spent on your uh outfits Not much at all. It feels like you've upped your game. Thank you. Yeah, but not much. Well day to day I'm in sweats every day in the season. I'm in sweats So like finally when I get to like blow the dust off the back of my closet and do something it's all there Because you do. Yeah, I mean the pictures. Are you looking right now? Yeah, I'm looking. I got a whole thing Do you have a uh getting on this checkered, uh, I feel like checkered suit coats. It's pretty nice
Starting point is 01:19:22 More players should bring two sets of clothes to a game like one if you win one if you lose. Yes Well, like the reindeer outfit was like I wore reindeer outfit outfit after Jacksonville Which was the day after Christmas or the day after that and like that was the same thing Like I wore normal clothes in there and I had the ones in my bag and it was never going to see the light of day If we lost right, but I agree and I honestly I do so like I'll have like an outfit whatever I wear in And like you know say it's like a suit or whatever and if we lose like I'm not putting that back on Like that's going in the bag. I'm putting my sweats on and I'm walking out. That's smart That's a very heads up thing to do. I feel like more players should take that into account because like when you when you show up at the podium
Starting point is 01:20:01 Yeah, and you've got like a live like a barely barely dead raccoon wrapped around your head And you're talking about how you win tails twitching you went five for 22 with three interceptions Like that's not that's not helping anybody. Yeah, no, I know and it's funny Like I don't know how many people think of that, but like that's something I do I was like, well, if we you know, this ends up happening when we lose I don't want to look like that guy, you know that like yes, I'd rather look good than When when you were on the Patriots was that when Josh McDaniels left for like 12 hours that was before that was right before Okay, I think that was a year before all right. Yeah
Starting point is 01:20:33 So he he obviously came back as he was you know, he's trusted to be the head of that offense in New England But then on the other side, you've got an up-and-comer running the defense Steve Belichick Is that his normal voice or is he like is he fucking with all of us to make us think that he sounds exactly like his dad No, I think as much as he would love to mess with everybody that is his actual voice. He just sounds exactly like that, huh? Yeah, does he do those weird mouth things during practice or is that just when he knows the cameras? No comment Uh, was it really weird when sam darnall got mono? It was pretty funny Okay
Starting point is 01:21:13 Oh, yeah, yeah, there was there was a time that he like wasn't in the facility obviously the way it's like, okay We probably shouldn't joke about this and then like when he got back It was it was it was an all-time. Yeah, it's an all-time. I mean, it's just one of those things like like what can you do? You know like at that time it's almost like Stop kissing as invisible as covet in a sense, you know, like you don't know somebody has mono and like you kiss somebody So what and then it just turns out like it's the second game of the year and you're out for four weeks because Because you made out did you see those same ghosts that he saw? Were they on the field?
Starting point is 01:21:45 No, that was that was that was wrong by espion. I agree That was wrong because like it's one thing to have like audio. I get it for all your content That's fine But like in the middle of a game, you know and and something like that and when you don't do that To everybody, you know, you just pick one person and record that that's wrong Because that's that's bad ball because it I like that that's bad ball That's bad ball by espion because you go to the sidelines. You're talking to your coach You're being honest with your coach with the understanding that like hey, okay. We're contributing this content to espion
Starting point is 01:22:15 They're not going to fuck us over and make us look like and they take one thing Um that i'm sure stuff like that gets said a lot during games by different people a lot But now it's associated forever with sam darnold. Yeah, and it's like, you know when when the offense isn't scoring I'm sure the defense is like What's wrong with the all you know and says goes on the offense and same thing when the offense is going and the defense Can't stop anybody We say the same thing, but it doesn't it's not because like we don't like the defense of the players It's just it's the heat of the battle. It's it's football like you just you just shouldn't do that
Starting point is 01:22:44 I like that though that you were um that you wouldn't joke about sam darnold when he was out of the facility But when he came like you wouldn't say it behind his back. Yeah, no You're like right to his face you suck any face and pig and parrot last night or what way to party kiss. Yeah All right, last question. So we had jimmy graham another another miami legend on the show Um, and it was the last week of the bear season Uh, obviously matt nagy got fired last year adam gaze gets fired. How Awkward is it in a facility when it's like everyone in the world knows This is gonna end if we're just we're just pretending that it's all normal
Starting point is 01:23:19 Well, that's the thing because like nobody really pretends like everybody knows and like that I don't know if that makes it worse or better Because you know, obviously whatever two years ago, you know, we finished two and fourteen or whatever it was But like everybody knew kind of midway through the year that that was it was kind of done Right and it's just like one of those things where like you don't know Some of the coaches would joke about it and then others wouldn't talk about it And then you know, we won two games and everybody's partying like, you know, we saved the jobs. Yeah But yeah, it's it's it's a interesting, uh, it's an interesting dynamic. Yeah, it's just it's one of those
Starting point is 01:23:55 I'm always fascinated with like the human side of both sports and like business right and everybody gets that right like That's where like I I always say like I wish it was just football and not a business But like you can't have those, you know mutual you can't have those independently exist You know there comes one with the other and so like I think everybody You know, you're a grown man and you know, you know, you're the track record is like, okay Like this is gonna happen So it's one of those things like same thing sam like you're out for the next three weeks But we're still gonna give you shit for it. You know, like it's the same way like we know we're out
Starting point is 01:24:23 We might as well have fun while we're here. Yes, absolutely My last last question going back you mentioned that jack, you know, he likes to point downfield sometimes I think he points downfield a little bit too much Like he's almost addicted to he gets out of the pocket and he always puts his finger out there He just points in a direction, you know, either something really awesome or really bad is about to happen But is he actually like instructing you to do certain things? Or is he sometimes just point to like get a little bit swag going before he throws the ball? No, well, obviously with that one in Tennessee that was that was to Corey Davis go deep
Starting point is 01:24:56 I'm launching it and touchdown sick play Um, and then the other words. Yeah, when when you kind of point when you're rolling out like you got everybody chasing you You get the linebackers about to come hit you like I don't really know what other uh, like example of that, but normally it's four point It's not just like headband swag point throw. You know, it's he does it a lot reason. I've noticed he does it a lot Um, billy, you're a big jets fan. Do you want to ask any questions? Yeah, any last questions? He loves you billy's in love with you. Yeah, what's going on? He was like celebrities make me nervous Like we've like you're you're obviously nfl player big big time deal all pro
Starting point is 01:25:30 But like we've had like adam sandler and stuff. He's like he wasn't nervous for that or anything like that It's like rax and barrios. You're I'd be nervous. He's got you nervous Yeah, quick question. So you've been with the patriots You've been with adam gays and the last coaching staff Do you feel that there's a huge different in this coaching staff in this environment with the jets? Even if you leave there's still like serious Like possibilities of promise going forward. Who's the coach you're referring to with the jets coach sal What was that?
Starting point is 01:25:59 They give me shit from my pronunciation of his name So I can never do it It's funny because I noticed how you like didn't Because you said the pages coach that then you said gays and then you just said No Truly truly I I think they're they're heading in a very good direction. Uh, I love the coaching staff there They uh, they're most of them. They're young. They know what they're doing Communicate well and like salla is is a phenomenal coach and a great storyteller. So if you love them so much
Starting point is 01:26:30 Why don't you announce you're resigning right now? Well, it's that's you know, it's two sides You could say it. You'd be like, I will I will do everything in my power. I'll take a pay cut I'm looking at your agent's eyes right now. I'll take a pay cut to be a new york jet We'll see if you love them so much. I don't know. All right, listen if I love the guy like that I'd be like, hey, I'll fucking take it. Yeah, how good is he at storytelling? Phenomenon because if he's a great storyteller, I would take less money. Yes There's a stick around for the story a great storyteller is worth like that's you can't put a price tag Well, no, you could it's like, I don't know three million or 10 million three years. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 01:27:08 So what do you mean like he's a is a great storyteller like ghost stories or no like like team meeting stories But like a random and like you have nowhere you have no idea where they're going But they always kind of like full circle and actually some don't it's just like a fun way to start the death Is there one that sticks out to you like no because they're long like I couldn't remember when to save my life right now I gotta hear a story that I gotta get we gotta get You have to have to yeah All right. Well Braxton. Thank you so much man. Congrats again all pro Congrats on your future deal. If you want our help, we will help deal
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Starting point is 01:29:40 Hey dad cat pf shay pf she And hanky panky hanky panky quick question When you say certain numbers are not eligible to be selected in the lottery machine. Why the hell is that? Thank you Because sometimes we're just too lazy to put them back in and so there are numbers that have been drawn recently And um, it's a long way for big cat to reach over and take the ball out and put it in the top big news though today I went through the entire um machine for a sportsbook promo that we had if you opted in and you
Starting point is 01:30:12 Bet the Steelers this weekend you will get a refund On the parlay promo. No, it was just straight bets. Oh, it's the ping pong. Yeah, it's ping pong gloves But I went through the whole thing every single number is still there Which I was shocked. I thought for sure there was a couple numbers that just weren't there. They all are there It's incredible feat Yeah, there it is good luck to everyone also I'm thinking about buying myself a little birthday gift. I'm gonna try to hunt down maybe a bigger
Starting point is 01:30:42 more more expensive Uh, ping pong ball machine My game unnecessary. Yeah, it does like upgrading your ping pong ball machine. Wasn't this one like five grand? It was it was 1500 paid for itself And then how much bigger and it came broken, right? It came broken from china. That's why we're boycotting That's why I'm boycotting the olympics Have you ever thought about the fact that that probably has a microphone inside of it? Yeah So they know that we're boycotting the olympics good
Starting point is 01:31:09 Free to bet we lot we took our eye off the ball of to bet by the way. Everyone's talking about taiwan Yeah, no one's talking about to bet. We had concerts for them and everything the beastie boys Yeah, free to bet bitch. Let me just live hank. I'm gonna look okay. I'm gonna see If I could just make the entire my entire like corner a game show I would love to see like what um, what your your spending breakdown is if you have one of those apps that categorizes things Yeah into like okay meals uh utilities um
Starting point is 01:31:43 household items Where does upgrading your ping pong ball lottery machine? It's a month. How do you categorize it? It's a need not a Necessities Uh, the ending song last episode was at splice with the weatherman. Yes, we are out of take on me remixes. Um, Oh, that was a planted question. Nice. No, it was a real question someone sent in I usually wouldn't answer it, but this is you know shout out to shawn flaherty nick roger those kids There's guys that have made a lot of the great to take on me remixes over the years shout out shout to them We have run out
Starting point is 01:32:14 You know, can you I've been recycling though, but you know for tonight's can you can we push pee? No Why not Is that are you not pee? I'm not pee. Is pushing is pushing pee over Oh, yeah, the cardinals tweeted pushing pee and then they got yeah, oh they did I found out about it on friday. I was like one minute man. Yeah, I found out about on friday And I was like, I'm I this probably like 10 more hours cardinals when I find out. It's it. It's it
Starting point is 01:32:43 Kfc did the video explaining it to like the the non people that were in on it and that's kind of when it's like Yeah, once everyone's in on it. Yeah, no once I find out it's over. I never yeah. I was never I didn't fully understand it um This is not a planted one. This is epic you that goes on my head constantly for some reason on the daily Recently, but can I fight hank? Yes. I don't know why I just really want to fight him for whatever reason in my head He has a very punchable voice. Thanks guys. I feel like a really silly family probably No, you know what? I'm gonna say no I'm gonna say I think you have to earn the right to fight hank agreed for the right amount of money. Yes get your cloud up
Starting point is 01:33:19 Yeah, how many followers is yeah I don't I just a text message number Remember when billy Like life goal was to fight jake paul and then he realized jake paul's actually kind of jacked in a really good fighter And then he just stopped talking about it There was a certain moment in time That could have been eclipsed That time has gone
Starting point is 01:33:40 Jake paul would have murdered you. I think I think back in the Nate robinson days there was a chance But now you spent the last what how many years like past year just only training. Hey, look I can't talk you fought for my honor again. So as I could say oh, but it's just I've been blog very funny Who's the guest you would want to return to the show that maybe it didn't go so great the first time around I feel like there's a lot of zoom ones we've done over the last year or so that We had to do one zoom because of covet, but if it was in person it could have been a lot better Yeah, I'd love to have like rex ryan in studio. I think in the first one. I thought went well. Yeah, but um
Starting point is 01:34:18 Oh good question. I'd have John Cena back in studio But he was in a good mental headspace. Yeah, only if we're yeah A certain amount of time away from a big life event when you check into him like eight hours before the interview Yeah, has anything bad happened in the last week. Um, see who would you think hank? That we've like it didn't go great. I thought the tim the tatten interview was was Very average to below average and if that was in person there wasn't a click That I was hoping for and I think it's there. I loved him. I know that's what I'm saying
Starting point is 01:34:57 I think I think if you guys did an interview in person, it would be a lot better I've been watching a lot of tim Videos on youtube recently. He's a very funny guy. Very funny. That's what the interview was more It came across as more of a generic type interview. Yeah, like tell us about your life Tell us about video which is honestly like something that we wanted to know about but I would love. Yeah, let's get tim Put tim on the bench with us Yeah, like I would I would let him sit at the table. What were you what do you think billy you same ball? It was good, but I feel audio was better. Yeah, I don't know. That was the one that first came to mind
Starting point is 01:35:29 There's some that it's just like that was like I don't I don't think I ever want to act back on Unless he was in I disagree. Yeah, if he was in person and I would do I think anyone in person I mean braxton bear is a great example like yeah, no That interview if it was on zoom. Yeah, it wouldn't hit it wouldn't hit the same I don't think it would have sucked. I would I would have I would have miley cyrus back on back on Yeah, she's like some people said it didn't go that great the first time I think that she's a kind of misunderstood person. Sorry. It's taylor. I'd love to have her back on I'd have ryan pace back on
Starting point is 01:36:00 Maybe changed my question. Thank you. Yeah Uh Suck g o t y cat bonk f t Buffalo's son and the crew when watching games with friends or family. They always ask me who I bet Everyone knows I like to gamble and they like to know what side I'm on which is reasonable But why every single time that I tell someone what team I bet on do they ask how much money I put on it? Are they hoping to unchain me if it's too low? Are they ready to virtue signal that I have a gambling problem if it's too high?
Starting point is 01:36:29 I'm a poor college college student and my average unit. It's five dollars. No unit shaming no And I've just gotten so annoyed at the question that I just don't respond to it anymore What should I say when ask when people ask how much I bet on a game? Okay, so I think they're not trying to unit shame you I think it's if you're with well, it's two different cases. One is if you're with other gamblers They might be trying to unit shame you which no one should do you bet within your means you bet You know, whatever you feel comfortable with if it's with non gamblers I think they're just their curiosity of like, oh, how much we got risking here is what really the question is like How important is this how invested should I get along with you? That's the question
Starting point is 01:37:12 I also think that if you're watching if they're non gamblers and they're watching with you, you're out at a bar They want to know okay if you hit this bet How many free shots should we expect you to pay for for the table? They're already they're already trying to tax your winnings Yes, so if you say like i'm betting 50 bucks on it you win 50 bucks They're expecting like next next bucket is on you. Yes. Yes, but I I think it's a normal It's a normal gambler to gambler. Oh, I agree. It's yeah. No, no The only time I ever ask is if someone says I have a lot on this game and then I'll be like but also I would never ask someone
Starting point is 01:37:47 How much they have on this on a game? Unless there's someone I know very well because that then my question is more like Are you is this a big game or a small game for you? That's the question. I'm asking Yeah, it's helpful to know sometimes like if you're watching a game With somebody that you know has a shitload of money on it and you put a small amount of money on it Um, like for example if we're watching a game on sunday, I know that dave has $250,000 on the line. I do not have $250,000. I'm making maybe what I think might be a big bet for myself I know that I don't need to be pulling a brandon walker and running my mouth about it. So yeah brandon got a stray
Starting point is 01:38:28 I love brandon. By the way, it doesn't us for chicago taping it tonight for the crown Hank, how do you feel about about being ditched at the altar by regs? Like reagan it's like reagan. He doesn't even acknowledge his real name. Um, no, I'm standing in solidarity with my man I'm crossing out the e. I'm not even saying it because I feel so strong about him leaving hank I don't give a shit to be honest. He can go he can go eat a butt No, you go eat a butt. That's my official stance Surely they surely they won their most recent game that came out uh tuesday night, right? Surely there's no way they could have lost that All right, mary fuckill
Starting point is 01:39:07 queso salsa guacamole Okay, uh for me, this is easy I'm mary salsa I fuck queso. I'm the same bonk and I kill guac. I'm the same. I'm the same and I like guac But bad guac is really bad and there's an important distinction in it, which I think we agree on queso has the highest ceiling But in terms of like what you can go to home to every single night. It's salsa also salsa is more versatile than queso I think you can put on a variety of dishes. Yes
Starting point is 01:39:38 Um, and if you're if you're killing guac, you can still eat avocado. Yeah, but you just can't have guacamole sometimes All right, a couple more uh on the 24 hour live stream last year Billy cooked some terrible breakfast at 5 a.m. And watching him try to cook was hysterical When are we getting some sort of barstool cookoff to revisit that hilarious disaster? Do it again? We will Let's do it again. You did russila teach you how to make eggs No, I didn't yet, but The way I make eggs people have a problem with I kind of make them like pancakes when I scrambled them because I put the milk in And then they kind of had that texture like pancakes. No you you burn. It's just it's a light crisp
Starting point is 01:40:15 Yeah, you make them like golden finish Um, we should do another cooking competition. Yes. Just billy verse No one just billy verse the comment section. That would be funny billy verse the smoke detector. Yeah Speaking of competition, are you guys going to do the season long competition with a punishment again next year? I'm down. I mean it'd have to be a punishment. But yeah, sure Um, we could bring back the suit one. You remember we did the suit punishment Yeah, what was that one for I think I was a gambling thing. It was yeah, it was me versus you Um, speaking Hank, did you ever work out in your mugsy jeans after you lost the grand prix several times? Okay?
Starting point is 01:40:55 Hmm. I I didn't know because I didn't see any really bad. I was almost dead. Uh Did you pt in the jeans? I'll do it on video this week. Maybe next week it was a bad week after it was a bad Um, but yeah, we would probably do something next year. I don't know I I think the best way to do it would be Loser can't watch the Super Bowl I mean we have to do it for our job though That's kind of you can listen on the radio
Starting point is 01:41:23 No, because then by like week 16, you'd be like, I really just love what like listen to kevin harland on westwood one I do he's I mean when the cat ran across the field that was pointless Loser has to fly to the Super Bowl, but the other way around the earth Long wise. Oh my god Where's the Super Bowl? Uh, Arizona Oh, that was normal. No, it's in Arizona. So you got to fly over Asia buses to get to Arizona. Oh my god We'll figure it out great hand bus
Starting point is 01:41:53 All right, last one. What's up chat cat pfp honk william and bubblegump and marsh mellow What is the most absurd piece of false information that billy has tried to convince who was true? Mmm. Good question The tom brady has 36 playoff wins Once I clip back really How's the hunt for the blue check mark going? I think they deleted the tweet I think I think no seriously Seriously, I swear because I I wrote it down
Starting point is 01:42:24 But you realize you told us you told us like you explained exactly where you slipped up in your explanation And then you were like but I got to find who screwed me up because you're like what time was the game So you essentially said I saw someone tweet 35 And then I added one No, no, so no what actually happens. I researched 30 36 wins then I saw A tweet and saw what time it was posted and I was like was this before after the game was over
Starting point is 01:42:56 Let's try to figure it out. But anyway, you researched 36 wins I just googled 36 tom brady and it said that the packers had 36 playoff wins. Uh, I think But like I was looking there's a whole bunch of stuff, but someone had tweeted I know exactly how it went out. You won't just admit it They're actually multiple sources that said it was 36 wins, but they all deleted their tweets. Yeah No, no, that's okay. Never mind. You looked it. Trust me. I saw someone say this will be this is tom brady's 35th Playoff win or tom brady's has 35 playoff wins and you thought it happened before the game and then you added one Right at that moment. Well, I was checking on it
Starting point is 01:43:38 But originally someone had posted 36 wins got it. I think for me It's uh billy tried to convince me that anthony fouchy and mother Teresa were in cahoots together And then the article that I found linked to a website that said that mother Teresa was actually anthony fouchy's mother Like that that was her son and then billy couldn't provide a source for it that didn't link to an article Uh, that was labeled under satanism So we fact checked that one in real time the craziest thing billy has convinced tried to convince me of um it was probably when we were doing the cato diet and
Starting point is 01:44:15 What was the thing that you gave me that was not cato and then it was something Yeah, and then you're like wait, hold on don't eat that and then you came back you like all right You're good to eat that and it was just like how where did you where'd you go to find that? Um, that was peak billy. I loved that billy That was that was great billy. I know billy. I'm still mad about the fact that Elephants don't see humans the way we see dogs. I'm never gonna forget that because that that made my day when billy told us that As our fun fact of the day that warmed my heart. I felt like I was I was just scrolling through the timeline of the dodo on twitter and then um
Starting point is 01:44:49 Dogs, bro, and then billy billy took that away from me. I do want to go back on kettle Billy ben mince is currently in ketosis. He is yes. Wow He's been having the breaking news. Have you been checking his piss? He's Well, we're gonna get to that but he's I put him on straight kato. He's not allowed to eat anything else He has a certain amount of meals and he's probably gonna be in ketosis by the time we test them Okay, so you haven't checked his kettle levels yet, but he's going through the kettle flip Is it possible that he's showing signs is it possible? He just has kovat his breath stinks He's been lethargic. Yeah, you might have breath stinks. He might be smelling his breath
Starting point is 01:45:28 He has the metallic smell of ketosis. So are you going in like checking his breath? No, he's been checking it I did love yeah, like when when we first did ketosis that was a very funny moment in time when you were 18 and Learning it as we went and it was like you'd hand me something and I'd start to you be like wait Hold on one second. You'd run to your computer and then you run back. You're like, okay, you can eat that You know where he got that from right? It so much comes into picture once you start listening to just a little bit of joe rogan To get an insight into billy's brain joe rogan had been on ketosis at the time and he was like
Starting point is 01:46:03 You know what's a really good diet to help you out is just ketosis It was literally from he was just translating the joe rogan podcast into our ears I didn't actually listen to joe rogan until I started working on this podcast Because then I didn't have a podcast to listen to once I started working on this podcast So that actually made me listen to more joe rogan Who do you like better? If joe rogan called you up today, I was asked and asked you to have your exact same role on the joe rogan experience No, what do you do? I wouldn't do that. $10,000. I would say take it. No, it was a lot
Starting point is 01:46:35 It was a lot of fun. Listen, that's a little bit your car. That's like be your that's live your best life though Like that would be the best life. No Yes No, if you got to like be a scientist on joe rogan's staff like live in his compound I make you take that job. I'd be like billy. You have to take this job. It would be like a Goodwill hunt it like I think if I if I see you here tomorrow The best part of my day is when I come in and I I don't see you I think for a second you're not gonna be at your desk because you're gonna be doing test tube studies for joe rogan in austin
Starting point is 01:47:09 I billy if your job would be like Okay, billy. I need you to go out and I need you to bow hunt for me And all you're all you're responsible for is bringing meat to me tonight and then sitting in the background of a podcast and Like injecting one fun fact in when you hear that be like if they offered me the price is right host I'd be like, sorry guys. It's the one thing i'm gonna take You would do that. Yeah And it's the greatest game show of all time
Starting point is 01:47:36 Incredible you get to work like what like drew carry probably works like 20 days a year Well, it's like pat say jack on wheel of fortune I think wheel of fortune is even easier because you tape like I think you take three days a month And then you just go back. Yeah, and that's it be incredible. What about you jake if you got offered a job Well, we know Sports business reporter a part of my take that's your dream job That's the end of the line for you the Toledo mud hens could offer no No, you get play-by-play for the Yankees, but I mean you'd have to take that
Starting point is 01:48:09 If any of the four major sports offered you a play-by-play job, you'd have to take it and I'd make you take it Same thing. I would same deal with billy. I'd be like you have to take it. All right. See ya That's a fact. Yeah to break my heart But you got to do it We'll see what if what if they all unionized and went on strike and they asked you to be a scab Play-by-play guy for the new york Yankees. Do you do you cross the picket line? would depend Yeah, you would
Starting point is 01:48:36 No, we'll see I don't know and hank if you If ben simmonds started a podcast and asked you to produce I would make you go take it fair. No Imagine that just every day talking about what he didn't do on a basketball court like a resort company Contacts me. Yeah, that's true. I'd be like no, sorry Yeah, we actually we need a we need a waterslide tester A beach chair warmer Just actually they you probably have enough followers on instagram
Starting point is 01:49:07 Where they could you could probably just be a resort influencer where you go on vacations Post pictures of you in the water Drink it up a frozen concoction and that's your life to cross my mind. Yeah They cross everyone's mind Own a bar, maybe a bowling alley in the Bahamas No, I'd own one of those like uh, like pedal boats that like cruises by people on the beach and hands out like pineapple drinks and cocaine Yeah, I mean that's for the record. I'm not ever gonna leave this show unless it's if I got a job offered to be like a train conductor That'd be pretty cool. All right. We'll see everyone on Friday. You get to wear the hat
Starting point is 01:49:48 Are we not doing ping-pong bowls? Oh, yeah 88 44 six 22 You know what 22 12 12 888 60 holy shit, I thought that was 69 for a second second time 60. I love you guys The footballs are not actually made out of pigskin, but rather beef bladder Me Oh
Starting point is 01:51:47 Oh Oh I'll be coming for you anyway I'll be I'll be Hey

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