Pardon My Take - Bruce Pearl, Falcons HC Arthur Smith, Carson Wentz To DC And March Madness

Episode Date: March 11, 2022

Carson Wentz is a Commandeer and PFT had a break down but we’re back for some spinzones. Billy reveals the first round of his 2022 QB bracket and we talk some March Madness(00;02;32-00;41;08). Bruce Pearl joins the show to talk basketball, his team’s season, his career and much more(00;41;08-01;27;44). Falcons HC Arthur Smith joins us in person at the Combine to talk about year 1 in Atlanta, his family being succession and lots more(01;27;44-02;10;04). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week(02;10;04-02;27;47).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Today is Friday, March 11th and Carson Wentz is a Washington commander. PFT, the floor is yours. In the last 24 hours, I've gone through what some may call mental gymnastics. I started out despondent to say the least. I didn't know how to react in the moment. I said a lot of things in the past about Carson Wentz.

I think we both have. And this was the universe just proving to me that karma's real and that if you say something mean enough about somebody enough times, eventually you'll have to trick yourself into rooting for that person. I've given myself some time to think about it. A lot of things get said in the heat of battle and the fog of war, but now I'm coming up for air.

I've had some time to think it through logically and I've reached this point in my bargaining stage where I think I'm the biggest Carson Wentz super fan in the world right now. And I did, so what I was doing yesterday, I'm a big logic over emotions guy. Facts don't care about your feelings, right? I was feeling like I wanted to throw

muriatic acid in my eyes yesterday. I was feeling like I wanted to go get all of my haircut off, which I almost did. Big Cat talked me out of it. I know you got a great haircut by the way, just as a side note, if you're watching on the YouTube, go watch, go subscribe to our YouTube channel, the great PMTV episode was out on Wednesday.

Your haircut is phenomenal. Thank you. And you know what I always appreciate about whenever I get a haircut? Hank always gasses me up. Hank's a hype man and he's always like, you should do the Jon Snow. Hank loves it when I do the Jon Snow.

Well yeah, no, you look good. You look good. You were like, you were gonna, first you were gonna get it all cut off. I was like, please don't do that. This is your brand. I was Britney Spears. Yeah, and then you were like,

I'm gonna get a mullet. And I was like, please don't do that, because then you would just be the beer guy who is, you know, 18 year old, 29 year old. Kind of like me. Documentary, yeah. He's just a 10 year younger version of myself. And then you went third option,

which is just an awesome haircut. Well, I just, I needed to trim the split ends off anyways. But the bottom line is I went through a nervous breakdown yesterday. I was in shock. My face went pale. Didn't know what to do. Adam Schefter started high stepping on my grave,

which looking back on it, he fucking knew when we interviewed Schefter. He kept bringing it up and bringing it up. He called it back. I was laughing about it, thinking about it. He, you guys are talking, and then he brought it back. He's like, what about Carson Wentz in Washington? Yeah, he got us.

So I was feeling bad yesterday, but there's some good facts about Carson Wentz that I can bring up. And where I'm at right now, I'm just, I'm fully invested in thinking about his ceiling. He's a big ceiling guy. Yes. His ceiling is better than any quarterback in that division.

Now, all we have to do is to get him to play at his ceiling on an average basis. Make his ceiling his average, and then I'm happy. The ceiling is the roof. The ceiling, yeah, we need to raise the roof a little bit. To the ceiling. All the way up to the ceiling. And I think that as long as we draft a quarterback,

because we only gave up two third round picks, essentially again. Nothing. Big Cat, he was drafted second overall. So when it happened, I knew you were going through a crisis. I think the thing that I tried to calm you down on, which probably didn't help, was I was like, dude, you're gonna sell yourself on this.

I sold myself on Mike Glennon, which probably is not a great analogy there. But I did, so I was thinking about it, is like I could have done better as a friend. So as a friend, I asked, who I've shouted out before, Stathole Sports, who does a great job, go follow him on Twitter. He's our wonky Stath guy.

I asked him to do a report for me, to present to you on Carson Wentz, to spin it towards a good thing. Okay, I've got a couple things that I'll bring up, and then I'll let you get to the report. Blind resume season, okay? Which quarterback would you rather have? A guy that has gotten two MVP votes,

or a guy that has gotten zero MVP votes. Definitely the two. There we go. Okay, so now we'll unveil it. Carson Wentz was the guy that has received MVP votes. Russell Wilson was the guy that hasn't. Carson Wentz has as many MVP votes as sprained ankles that he had at the same time last year.

Yeah, so that actually dovetails into nothing. He was injured last year when he played. We're getting a healthy Carson Wentz. Double sprained ankles. That has had, by the time training camp kicks off, he'll have had probably seven, eight months to recover from both sprained ankles. Which I still,

I don't know which one was worse. Did he play a football game or was he in a car crash? Yeah, no, I think he's the only person to ever have sprained, that's a hilarious injury. That is like an elevator or car crash injury. Yeah. Double sprained ankles. Also six times in Washington history

has a quarterback thrown 27 or more TDs. Wentz has done it three times in six seasons. Love it. In the history of the franchise, we've only had it six times. Also, Carson Wentz has never played with a receiver as good as Terry McLaurin. That's a fact.

He's got a weapon now. That's a fact. I just think that there's a big ceiling for the guy. He doesn't throw interceptions. You're going through seven last year? He threw seven interceptions. That's three less than everybody's poster child for great NFC beast quarterbacks, Dak Prescott.

So, again. You mean black Kirk Cousins? Black Kirk Cousins. Is that a real thing? I don't think so. There was a rumor that that Amari Cooper told Dak Prescott after the loss in the playoffs

that he was black Kirk Cousins. Why can't Kirk Cousins be black Kirk Cousins? It's just a very funny rumor to start. Get into a race thing, but I've never seen a black man grill with aluminum foil underneath of me. That's true. I don't think that that happens.

That's true. Are you ready for my report? Yes, please. Okay. All right. So, again, Stathole Sports, shout him out. He's great on Twitter. He has a great whole breakdown of Josh Allen

and how incredible Josh Allen is. So, go read that. All right, Carson Wentz. In the last 20 years, Carson Wentz is actually the best quarterback the Washington football team franchise will have. So, if you do minimum three games, Carson Wentz has 1.63 TDs per game.

The second one on that list is Shane Matthews with 1.57 TDs per game. So, he is. I'm pretty sure Shane Matthews started like six games too. Yeah, but even still, Kirk Cousins was 1.56. Robert Griffin III was 1.11.

Carson Wentz blowing the competition out of the water with 1.63 TDs per game. This is a list of all of the Washington football team quarterbacks. Tim Hasselbeck was 0.71 per game. He comes in dead last. All right, so that's a big one. Ricochet shot on Tim Hasselbeck, yeah.

Well, I'm just reading the stats. Stats don't lie. Jeff George 0.88, he was in the middle of the pack. Anyway, next up, Carson Wentz. You don't want to domesticate Carson Wentz. He's a wildcat. He needs to be out there. All right, so Carson Wentz in the wild

versus in captivity in a dome. Carson Wentz inside 214 yards per game, 1.67 passing TDs, 0.78 interceptions and 11 yards rushing. Outside, he's 244 passing yards, 30 yards more. About the same TDs, less interceptions, better rush yards. Okay. Guess where Washington football team plays?

Outdoors. Well, we play in a death trap of a stadium. That doesn't matter. It's outdoors. That's all that matters. Do you guys have any history of knee injuries? No. Okay, good, good.

Move on, move on. All right, okay, so that one, good. He's outside. We've established that he's outside. Guess what happens outside? You have weather. You have different degrees of weather. You have different months and everything, okay?

So here we go. The average temperature last September in Washington, DC was 73 degrees. No quarterback has performed better from a yards per attempt standpoint in exactly 73 degree weather than Carson Wentz. Let's go. Okay, good.

Top 50 quarterbacks. That's good because he's gonna be healthy in September. Yeah, top 50 quarterbacks yards per attempt in exactly 73 degree weather. He is number one, 9.71 yards per attempt. His ceiling is so high. Think about that. That he can't even perform indoors.

There's no ceiling for Carson Wentz. And let me just throw out a couple for you there. Your guy, elite Joe Flacco, he's an entire three yards per attempt less at exactly 73 degree weather. I'm in. I'm in. It's incredible.

So there were moments last year, we went back and forth. I don't think that we were ever on the same page with Carson Wentz. But it would go back and forth across this very table when I would be like, Carson Wentz, I think is back. I think he's good again. And I'd be like, no, he stinks.

And then he'd be like, no, he's good again. I just need him to be good again, again, all the time. Exactly. So we got September done. How about November and December? In Washington, DC, the average temperature is 48 degrees in both November and December last year. Carson Wentz, career yards per attempt

at this exact temperature, 48 degrees. Trails only three guys. Jamarcus Russell Baker, Mayfield and Jared Goff. That's it. The only three guys that are better than Carson Wentz at exactly 40 degrees. Elite company to be in. Yes.

So we now have September, November, December. Wait, wait. Who are those three quarterbacks you listed? Jamarcus Russell, Baker, Mayfield and Jared Goff. All number one overall draft fix. All number one overall draft fix. Okay, I'm in. Yes.

And then, so we have September, November and December. What about October? Well, I was wondering about October. I was wondering about October. I was like, October must be a disaster. Carson Wentz is one of only 11 quarterbacks to throw 14 touchdowns in any given month of a season. He did this in October of 2017.

That was his MVP year. And the list of guys on the 14 or more TDs in any month is literally just Hall of Famers. It's Tom Brady, it's Peyton Manning, it's Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers, it's Kurt Warner and it's Carson Wentz back in. There's more guys on the list, but it's Carson Wentz back in October of 2017.

So shout out to that whole sports. I think that we just proved that if you just break it down month by month, degree by degree, Carson Wentz playing outdoors in exactly 73 degrees or 48 degrees or the month of October, he's a Hall of Famer. Okay, I need some weather guys. I need some weather luck next year.

Jim Cantoria, if you're out there, please give me a hand on that one. I'm kind of selling myself on it slowly. I'm accepting it. I'm gradually accepting the fact that Carson Wentz will be the quarterback. And again, I do want them to draft a quarterback in the first round.

If we draft a quarterback still in the first round, I'll be very happy with the situation that we're in. You know what, it's upside for Carson. It's upside city. It's value that we got for two third round picks for Carson Wentz. I'm starting to believe in it if we go ahead and also get another quarterback

in the first round. So there we go. And so it's funny, because I was looking at who out there can I hitch my wagon to? Who is also in my circle now defending Carson Wentz? Oh yeah, I know. And I've got two of the sharpest football minds in the world, Dan Orlovsky,

and then our favorite analyst on the show, Genius. I've always said that this is a guy that is smart, that understands the world, that understands football. They might have me blocked. Emmanuel Ocho. So me and Emmanuel Ocho like this, that's my guy. If you ever watch him break anything down,

dude spits logic, he spits facts. A lot of people can't handle facts, they get triggered by it, and they end up going back and forth with him about stuff. But the bottom line is Emmanuel Ocho is a football genius. So now it's me, the guy who can't be in a room with a woman, because he'll fuck her, or in a hotel room with himself,

because he'll fuck himself. And then Emmanuel Ocho, a guy that doesn't think she'd carry Richardson, should have a sharp stick, because she smokes pot. Correct. So that's a who's who of quarterbacks. Yeah, the big three. Yeah, Emmanuel Ocho, so logical,

he has a book named Elogical. Yeah, exactly. That's how logical the guy is. Listen. Which is pin tweet of him reading the audio book is quite something. Again, I'm blocked, so whatever. I don't think that I could have hoped for a bigger three

to be out there defending Carson Wentz. It's huge. It's enormous. Oh, oh. Breaking moves, you see the cow walking in. The cow's walking in the studio. Uh-oh, that was funny. Breaking.

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and start tweeting about NFTs for this to happen. How mad is he? He's the biggest loser in all of this. Unless it was a Galaxy 4D play, he actually has the NFTs. Oh, he got his, and he got his Twitter account back, so he was able to tweet it. Yeah. So there you go.

That would be actually very funny, Hank, if he took this day. He knew the deal was coming, and he's like, this is my chance to really. Passon probably knew that, like, as far as notifications go, push notifications for people on his tweets, he's probably at an all-time high right now. This would be the best. He probably got a bag today.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, so I haven't ruled that out yet. I'm really hoping, I'm waiting for all the facts to come out about this, but I'm really hoping that they got giant bases out of the deal. That was what the owners were hoping for was big. Are they big bases? How big are the bases?

I don't know anything about the bases, but we do have. Sorry. Yeah, well, we'd like to know about them. Nine inning double-headers. I love it. OK. Wait. Oh, no, I don't love that.

I like the seven inning double-headers. No, I'm OK with it. Man on second. Extra innings. Out. Yes, that's good. Yes, that's good. That's what I got so far.

Oh, OK. All right, so they just basically took the two rules that everyone hated. All right, that's progress. Yeah, good job. What about the shift? That's the old Goodell. I want to know about the shift, yeah.

Or the DH. Working on. Make a rule, and then take it away. How many DHs? It'd be funny if they had first base, normal size, second base slightly bigger, third base giant, just a big fucking base. That would be sick.

That would be very sick. I didn't even know where that came from, but out of nowhere, they were like, yeah, the owners need the bases to be 33% bigger. Why not? More steals. Steals actually would make the game more exciting. More space for ad revenue.

Yeah, that's true. Make those bases bigger. They still have a make good that they have to do for advertising Spider-Man 2 on the basis. And free tacos in the World Series. Yep. Shout out Taco Bell. All right, so.

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Let's do it. The bracket that we've all been waiting for, we alluded to it on Wednesday, a teaser, as they say in the business. Billy is here with his. We'll start with, you know what? Let's start with fuckable spirals. Because then it will be interesting how it relates

to your actual grades. OK, so I looked at a lot of tape. It's going to be in a blog on barstoolsports.com. It will be posted tomorrow morning. I have a lot of video that backs up these claims. Fuckable spirals. There's a ranking, not a bracket, right? This is just guys who have it and guys who don't.

OK, binary. There's a lot of guys who have fuckable spiral energy, but don't have fuckable spirals. I see what you're saying. So there's guys like Dustin Crum, Sam Howell, and Kenny Pickett. All have fuckable spiral energy. We just saw Kenny Pickett. He came in and said hello to us.

Don't worry, it's just about the spiral. Look, I'm going to say Dustin Crum and Sam Howell have a little bit of weird mechanics that make the ball look a little weird. It comes down sideways. It doesn't look like a straight projectile. The axis is wobbly on it. The axis is wobbly.

Yeah, that's the big thing. It's like the ball points down. It's a little weird. You'll see what I'm saying in the blog. I'm a little nervous, by the way, because how many deep, how many quarterbacks did you watch tape on? I watched like everyone from the 2022 draft. OK, so is there a certain, my favorite quarterback,

is he in there? He might be. Western Kentucky? So we talk about him. OK, all right, good. Yeah. Because he is the best. Bailey Zappi.

I mean, he's got the best name. He has the best name. His name is Bailey Zappi. Yeah. So really with Kenny Pickett, it's his glove seeing the ball come off a gloved hand, messes with my brain. Yeah, that's fair.

So I don't even, I can't, but trust me, it will make up for later. No, if you're talking about a fuckable spiral, like using a glove is like taking a shower with a raincoat on. That's a, that's, that feels better. Kenny, not you, like that's a you problem, not a Kenny problem. Kenny's just throwing out there. It's nothing against him. It's just our brains can't handle it.

Exactly. Yep, fair. So these are guys with super fuckable spirals. OK. Number one, Malik Willis. Yep, yeah. God damn bomb. And the thing is, I love how the ball turns over

on his long balls. Yep. So it just goes up and it points up when it's going up. And when it's going down, it points down and it looks like an absolute cruise missile. Yep. Just zoom. I've always wondered about that with quarterbacks and punters.

What makes the ball turn over as opposed to it staying up? I'm not a physics guy. I don't know, but this guy, moon bombs. And then he also, he like, if you look at his shorter passes, tight darts in and out, jumps off his hand. That's just like when Aaron Rodgers threw that pass, the guys on the yacht at that golf tournament. When you see that jumping off the hand type velocity,

where it's like his motion looks, yeah, his motion looks this fast, but then the ball looks faster than his motion. Yep. That's that extra fuckable. That's Malik moon bombs. OK. So that's one.

Carson Strong. Yep. Nevada. Very, very fuckable spiral. Yep. Great, great quarterback name too. Carson Strong has a, he throws a long ball, good long ball. But some of his intermediate throws, very fuckable spiral,

just slips in and out. I don't know how he does it. Looks like a wizard with it. Love it. Last, this guy I think has the most fuckable spiral, Jack Kohn. Oh. Jack Kohn, super fuckable spiral.

Five star from Long Island. New York guy, little bias. But this guy, he threw 55 miles per hour in the speed throw. He was the only guy to hit the exact target on the speed throw when throwing it out of the five guys. Sam Howell had the fastest at like 58, 59, but he didn't even hit anywhere close to the target. Yeah.

I'm going to hold that against him later in the. Put that, translate that into something that is applicable in my real world experience in this office. 55 miles an hour with a football, how fast would that be with like a high noon can? Enough to kill you. OK, so now you could kill somebody with this one. Let's do it another way.

So 55 miles an hour. If you were, well, that's pretty fast. Say you say it was going 35 miles an hour as a car and you're running in Queens, Queens Bronx. Could break your ankle. Break your ankle. OK, got it, got it. But just putting into real world

so people understand the real world also issues here. Jack Kohn has a high release point, which I'm a sucker for. Yep. So it comes out. We all are. So now we're going to go. I agree with that high release point and funky release points.

Like I don't like them in the middle release points. I like if they can get all over the place, like Patrick Mahomes or if they can or a nice high release point that's like. Well, Mahomes has a high release point when he's just straight up. Which I like if you're straight up high release point, that's sexy.

Yes. One thing about about college quarterbacks as opposed to the NFL when it comes to the fuckable spirals, college quarterbacks who are left-handed usually have fuckable spirals to pay. The second they put on an NFL uniform and you take the stripes off the ball, I would not touch that spiral.

Yeah, it's uncatchable. All right. Is this the bracket? This is the bracket. But first I have to explain the top eight that I chose. OK. Because it's not everyone's typical top eight. All right.

So number eight, like well, no particular order. I have the top four is basically the same as everybody. Kenny Pickett, Sam Howell, Malik Willis, Matt Corral, in no particular order. And then my bottom four are a little, is a little different to everybody else's. I put E.J. Perry on there for reasons all around. Because he picked up the trash?

No, no, no. There's other reasons. We got Jack Cohen on there, Carson Strong, Desmond Ritter. So those are my bottom four. No Bayley Zappy, unfortunately. That's unfortunate. He's electric. But you said we're going to get to Bayley Zappy.

I think we just did. We just did. By me saying no Bayley Zappy. No Bayley Zappy. Billy, you know that people heard you talk earlier on this podcast. And you said, well, there's something else coming up. I was hoping you guys forget about it.

It's going to be later on in the bracket. And then big cats going to say, hey, where's Bayley Zappy? I hope you guys are going to forget about it. I don't want to let people down. Can we just say Bayley Zappy lost the play-in game? He lost the play-ins to E.J. Perry for reasons I'll explain. OK. Match up number one.

We got Kenny Pickett versus E.J. Perry. This is the number one seed versus the eighth seed. OK. E.J. Perry is only on here because he was the most athletic quarterback. If you combine his scores, there was a certain NFL draft scourge by next gen stats that put E.J. Perry is the most athletic quarterback in the draft.

How is he more athletic than Malik Willis, though? Because he scores. Because he didn't run at the combine problem. Well, it's the next gen. The next gen stats. The next gen. And also, E.J. Perry picked up the trash. Malik Willis gave it to the homeless people

so that evens itself out. Exactly. So he got on there for the athleticism and picking up the trash. Oh, so he did. OK. And exactly. So that's why he's on the list.

Listen to this podcast using the 15-second rewind button must be an absolute mindfuck when you hear Bayley talk. Exactly. So anyway, you're like, it exactly can be used. It's like aloha. Was it aloha? It means different things. Inuits have like 40 different words for snow.

Yeah, Bayley's got it. Bayley's using exactly like confirming that he's wrong, confirming that he's right, kind of just trying to move on from whatever we're talking about. There's many exact ones. Closest that he'll ever get to admitting that he was lying about something or wrong is just when he takes a pause and he goes, anyways.

Yeah, so anyways. Yeah. Yeah, so this isn't going to be. OK. This isn't going to be an Ellinger, Trevor Lawrence situation. Kenny Pickett blows him out of the water. OK.

Match up number two. We got Malik Willis versus Carson Strong. Malik Willis is number two. Carson Strong is number seven. Carson Strong, big arm. You know, he was in the running for it. He's one of the fuckable spiral guys. But Malik Willis has been said to be, in my opinion,

combination of Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. This is what the people are saying. So the best quarterback of all time. Exactly. So, you know, if you look at Malik's throws from the combine, insane, absolutely crazy type stuff. So I did the exact calculation on how far he threw that ball. If you do the Pythagorean theorem,

it comes out to 75 on a line, which is insane. And it was fuckable, too. He has a fuckable spiral. Turned over moon bomb. Moon bomb. It went high. It was a high bomb, too. OK, so now we have Kenny Pickett and Malik Willis

in the final four. Right. Exactly. Also, he gave the homeless guy clothes. Yep. Huge. Matchup number three, Sam Howell versus Jack Cohen. You know, they faced off.

But this is the first upset of the bracket. Oh! I have Jack Cohen beating out Sam Howell. No bias, because he's from New York. No, that was absolutely biased. Yep. So, exactly. I also think that Billy learned from Jake's mistakes

and is putting a Wisconsin guy, like, advancing him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, smart man. The whole ideology behind this is Sam Howell through 59. But he didn't hit the target on the speed pitch. And the thing is with quarterbacks, guys should always be trying to hit the target. Accuracy.

You should have a pinpoint on a jersey you're aiming for. You know, he didn't hit it. Jack Cohen hit it right on the center with his 55 mile per hour. So that's really why I chose Jack Cohen. Also, we'll get to it later. Yeah. New York guy, Sam Howell also. We'll get to that later.

I haven't discussed it yet. I put. I kind of want to do the, we should get to the final four and then we should save the final four for Monday. OK, perfect. Because it's like everyone's like, and the anticipation is going to kill everyone, right? Exactly.

Yeah. We'll do it at the end of the show on Monday. Also, Sam Howell didn't cover a couple of times and upset me during the season, but we're moving on. That's, I completely agree with that. Also, let down in the Heisman race. Sam Howell, I'm sure you're a great guy. I'd love to meet you, but.

Sam Howell wins the Jake Fromm Award, where if he could have come out last year, it probably would have been better for him. Right. So this is matchup number four. OK. So we have three of our four final fours. Final four will be Monday.

Number four, Matt Corral, Old Miss. Verse number five, Desmond Ritter, Cincinnati. So let me preface this by saying that I live next to Ben Mintz. Matt Corral has been a topic of a discussion for the whole season. Yep. We've been debating, is he a systems quarterback? Are his 10 wins in the SEC with the SEC schedule?

Now, when you say systems, that means you can play in multiple systems. System. OK, got it. So I looked at. He also shares a birthday with Jackie Robinson. Wow. And me.

Wow. Desmond Ritter from Cincinnati also had a great season, made it to the college football playoff. So how am I going to compare these two quarterbacks? I looked at their stats versus Bama. OK. Because they both play Bama. I think that's fair.

That's totally fair. That's fair. Because the talent around them is exactly the same. That defense is basically an NFL defense. Correct. So we just got to look at that. Matt Corral performed better against Bama, but it's not too different.

So Desmond Ritter got sacked six times against Bama. No touchdowns, 144 yards. Matt Corral got sacked twice against Bama, 213 yards in a touchdown. I think Desmond Ritter is more sackable, even though he's very athletic. Based on these numbers? Yes, he's much more sackable.

Also, Minci has totally brainwashed me into him being a tough, savvy quarterback who throws bombs. So Minci has totally corrupted my mind on Matt Corral, because we watch the games. And this is what we were just talking about. I love it. OK.

So I like Matt Corral a lot. I agree with your analysis of him in terms of his sackability. My concern about him is that Matt Corral, if I'm not mistaken, he's a forearm tattoo guy. I like that. That actually plays into next to the final four. I don't know if I've ever seen a great quarterback with a forearm tattoo.

Well, we'll get there Monday. Taylor Heineck, he's won. Wait, but I blogged the whole thing, so people are going to know if I blogged. Sorry, I'm not blogged. Don't blog the final. Keep out the final four. Right.

And then we'll do Final Four Monday. I like the anticipation of who's going to fucking get your brackets. I want to see people's brackets filled out brackets of what you think the final four will play, how it will play out. This is what the final four is. Kenny Pickett plays Malik Willis. Yep. Jack Cohen plays Matt Corral.

OK. And that's a. And then we'll see who wins. Yeah, so fill out your brackets and tweet us. Yeah, I have the games. Where are they being played? They're being played in my mind. OK.

Neutral site. Neutral site in my mind. So no, no drugs in your mind. No drugs, no beer. No drugs, no beer. Neutral site on Monday. What about? Yeah, right.

Like you can't you can't be under the influence because then that's not neutral site. When I wrote it, it was a neutral site. OK, got it. Has Jack Cohen ever played against Alabama? No, you got to find another common opponent. Well, that's not the factor in it's already played out. OK, it's already been played out.

I like the fact that we're going to put out another bracket on Sunday or Monday because right like this bracket season. This will be the most important bracket we discuss on Monday. I will click on anything online with a bracket. Yes. If Homeboy's got a bracket, he's like going to get it. Bracket of catch up.

Stay tuned. All right. Great job, Billy. That was great. So yeah, tune in Monday. The completion of Billy's football quarterback football bracket, reminder, Sam Elinger won last year's bracket. Which he could be a starter.

Right now he is the starter for the course, presumed starter. He is going to be the man. Hashtag Billy was right. Jim Ursay, I think loves the kid. And he's going to ball out, obviously. Like I said, that loves the kid. Size 10 inch hands. He's the next Drew Brees.

Yes. Taller than Drew Brees, too. All right. We should do a little college basketball. Then we got Bruce Pearl. Then we got Arthur Smith. So Duke almost lost. And then they had the refs come in.

Well, they had the refs come in beforehand, right Hank? Because they got Buddy Bayheim suspended, which was nice. I did like that Jim Bayheim was. Salta person. Well, if you want to get into that, Hank, how many people have died besides Houdini from getting hit in the stomach? Probably a lot.

No, probably how many people have died from drunk driving accidents? Yeah. More. Right. Yeah. So it's just interesting to me that the punishments were similar. It's true.

That's fair. It's like right now I'm doing a real life. Well, Buddy Bayheim only got 50% of the suspension that Ray Rice got. Right. And like, Bayheim's never killed a guy. Correct. All right, so the refs did just show up at the end

to help you out. It was an ugly game for Duke. I said it out loud. I was like, there's a chance that Coach K has won his last game already. Yeah, you tweeted that. Yeah. Including next week.

Yeah. Yeah, I was saying that he's going to lose his last regular season game, first ACC tournament game, first NCAA tournament game. Be wild. I don't think. But thankfully the refs stepped in. That first half, I struggle to remember a time

when I've seen two teams with a greater disparity in terms of shooting the ball. Duke couldn't hit anything. It was awesome to watch how hot Syracuse was. Yeah, Syracuse was super hot. Jimmy was hot. Jimmy came out. What was it, Jake?

Five for six from three? I think it was six for seven. He ended up six for nine. But yeah, they were doing it for Buddy. It was Buddy Innocent. Yeah, and it was. I did like that Jim Bayheim was like, you know, the other kid was kind of knocking him around a little bit

and he inadvertently punched him in the gut. I don't think he should have been suspended. I really don't. And I wanted to see Buddy play. In the game, they probably would have given him maybe a flagrant too and ejected the rest of that game. They were blowing an FSC, then he would have been in today. Yeah, so I like watching Buddy play.

Like he's fun to play because he gets hot. It was really his brother did like his best interpretation of Buddy getting hot. Yeah, they were doing it for Buddy. And when Jay Billis was talking about it yesterday, he was saying that Buddy should not have been suspended for it because of the letter of the law and how the ACC judges things. But I guess the ACC used their like sportsmanship clause

or something like that. They do have like a bylaw, which is like when Roger Goddell goes God mode and gets to put somebody on the commissioner's list. The ACC has like this weasley little rule where they say that, OK, if you do something unsporting, they can go in and do it. But yeah, by the way that they've done everything else all year, they should not have suspended him for that game. Yeah, just a shame.

This is how his career ended. And for the first time in 46 seasons, Jim Bayheim's team finishes under 500. Is Bob Huggins OK? I think he just got kicked out of the game. Oh, I thought I thought he just needed a nap. No, I think I think he got tossed. I think he got the old toss arena

because they're shooting free throws right now. So that would make sense. Yeah, he was he was very upset. He just looked like a man that with bartender was like, I think you've had enough. So get out of here. Yeah, no, Coach K definitely called the ACC and was like, hey, we can't let this stand.

We are got Theo John tackled a man against UNC, but we can't let this stand. Oh, yeah. So Duke Advances. I don't think Coach K smiled at all the entire game, just screaming at his players like they were in the student section. It was it was sad to see, but Duke Advances.

I do a newspaper. I do think that Coach K is going to get the guys together and they're going to make a run in the tournament, though. That's the tournament or next week's next week's tournament. The real tournament. The real turn, put a pin in that one. I think Duke's going off to a 15 seed. Oh, my God.

What do we have for Michigan? So that was the other big story today. Michigan blows an all time blown lead against Indiana. Shout out to one Howard to great. Sorry, not sorry by him yesterday. He said, talking about the Greg guard incident, because this is his first game back. He said, I could come with a thousand excuses, but I'm not.

I take full ownership for my actions. That's what he said. Oh, wait. No, no. He went on to say, I could talk about the timeout. We could discuss the pull on the arm. We could talk about the words exchanged with coaches. So he's not talking about that.

He's not. We could, but he's not. But yeah, that was a bad loss for Michigan. They were up by 17 with 11 minutes left. Yikes. They should still be in. They might have to go to Dayton. Might have to go to Dayton.

They're on the bubble. I would still be surprised if they're out, but Indiana now. I had both these teams in the final four. Did you? At the start of the game. Now they both might make it. Yeah, that's true. You're still alive.

Wait, you didn't say you're not still alive, because Wisconsin is going to be in the tournament. Well, your perfect bracket's not still alive. True. But no, Jacob, it could be the NIT. You were just doing the NIT bracket. That too. You mislabeled it at the beginning of the season.

I also have Gonzaga and Villanova. There is, though, like this time of year, it's an incredible conference tourney week, like the meltdowns. Arizona State yesterday. They were up like 14 with four minutes left, and they lost in regulation. Shit just crazy shit happens.

Another one for the buzzer beater list, Virginia Tech. Last night, there's been a few. Virginia Tech, San M basically had a buzzer beater list, 0.1. I know you guys are big Rick Petino guys. We like Rick Petino on this podcast, but they lost to Ryder in the Mac quarter finals. They are not going dancing. Well, we are Ryders.

He finished early. Yeah. I tweeted that, and I got like five or six in the same. But you meant it in the literal sense. Oh, of course. Yes. His seed was eliminated. Yes.

Early. His seed got ejected very early. They're going to the NIT. Quickly. So. Confirmed? Yeah, so if you're a mid-major regular season champion and you get bounced in your conference tournament,

you're a one seed automatic. I love that. Auto bid to the NIT. Love that. Yeah. I do think that the NCAA is fucking over some schools with their rules, though. Bellarmine.

Bellarmine. Yeah, Bellarmine. That's bullshit. Let the kids play. Yep. Let them play. A team going to that loss in the semi-finals, Jacksonville State.

Yeah, because they won the regular season. They lost to the team to finish second. It was so funny looking at their seeding in the conference tournament. They were both two seeds. Yeah, they did a divisions thing. So, is it like Illinois and Wisconsin? Are they both two seeds or are they both one seed?

Football does that, right? Here, quarterback's Carson Wentz. Football does big time divisions. Basketball doesn't. Yeah. Yeah, it does. Talk to me in October. Yeah, September's going to be his month, though.

73 degrees. Best quarterback of all time. Wait, what was Mitch's special degrees? 64. It was that one game we went to against the Bucks, where he had six touchdowns. Yeah. It was literally one game.

All right, before we get to Bruce Pearl and Arthur Smith, I just want to say I fucked up really bad. Last week, I told everyone that it was daylight savings. It's actually next week. So that's my fault. Next week, we're changing our clocks. So, hand up. I fucked that up again.

Next week, next Saturday. It's actually perfect. It's on St. Patrick's Day or the day after. Yeah, so it's going to give you an extra hour to sleep in and be hung over, right? Yes. Oh, no, wait, wait, the spring forward. Spring forward.

So, yeah, it's going to give you an extra hour at the bar. Yes, extra hour at the bar, extra hour of college basketball. Next Saturday, during the tournament, get excited. That's going to be sick. That would be awesome if that's how they did it. And if there was a sports game going on at that time, they just extended the entire game by an hour. Yeah, just to play another extra half.

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So let's start here. Thanks for coming on. March, it's the best. I mean, when the clock turns to March, are you, does something switch in your brain where you're like, this is it? This is my time. Well, I don't know, Big Cat. First of all, by the time we get to March, we've been working every day since

like sometime in October. So we're kind of exhausted. But there is a different energy, right? Because, man, to the victor go the spoils. And there's just, there's so much glory to be had in March. We've worked really hard to put ourselves in position to make a run. We'll see what happens. How does that work going into the SEC tournament when you've, you know,

you've obviously put together a good body of evidence making a case for yourself being a high seed already in the NCAA tournament. But you've got the SEC tournament. You've got a bunch of great coaches in that league. Guys that you want to go out there and beat you want to compete against. How much do you put into preparing for this tournament as opposed to making sure that you're in the right place, you know, physically as a team for, for the NCAA tournament?

Man, yeah, I just think you take it one day at a time. I mean, I know it sounds like coach talk, but it's just true. You just focus on the next opponent. You know, for us, it'll take three games, three wins to win an SEC tournament championship. And so we'll just take them one at a time and we'll prepare. But I've never believed in doing anything at your conference tournament to get ready for the NCAA tournament other than try to win.

I mean, you know, and try to play better. And the teams that improve throughout the season, the teams that continue to grow and get better are the teams that are playing their best at the end. And that's what it takes to win it all. Now, do you think your guys are playing their best right now? Because you've had a, you know, the start to the season was incredible. I remember that game against Yukon because I had wagered on it and I watched all the over times.

I was in a, I was in a playground with my son, with my phone out watching the end of it. I did have Yukon. No offense. Did we cover it? Did we cover it? No, you did not. I had Yukon. No, no, good.

I had Yukon. No apologies necessary. So, but you know, you know, you guys start whatever it was, 20 or in one or something like that. And you know, the last couple of weeks have been a little bit back and forth, a lot of tough places to play in the SEC. So has there been like a counterpunch or a counter coaching move to correct this last few weeks where it hasn't been as good as it was to start the season?

You know, we're not playing our best right now, but I think it more has to do with the fact that look, we lost at Arkansas and had the ball with a chance to win it in regulation. We lost at Florida, had the ball to win it at the end of regulation and we lost at Tennessee. We were down three with a minute to go. I mean, so those have been, and then we just beat Mississippi State who had only lost one game at home in conference and that was to Tennessee. So, you know, even in some of those defeats, we had our chances. What do you got to do to be playing your best?

The end, you got to defend and rebound. That always travels, but you got to get hot. You got to, you got to make shots. I mean, that's at the end of the day, that's what really is, is the great separate. We're always going to guard. But the question is, can we start shooting a little better? And and that's what, that's what we're trying to get done. Yeah.

What, no, in terms of like the tournament setting, both the SEC tournament and then the actual March Madness tournament, how do you manage that in terms of like legs? I know they're young guys, but playing back-to-back days or playing, you know, a new opponent two days after you play in the first round of the NCAA tournament. How do you manage that in terms of legs, in terms of shooting? Like how does that all work? Well, you know, for us, it's about the sum of our parts. And I think you see in, in, in sport, when you get into postseason, you see coaches shorten

their benches and it exists in every team sport. I don't, I don't believe in that. I'm not going to shorten my bench at all. And the hardest game for a team like us to win will be the win, will be the first game because we're going to play nine or 10 guys. But in game two, we have an advantage because I'm not playing Jabari Smith 35 minutes in game one. He's going to get his 30-32 and he's going to have legs to be able to play in that second

game. And I think that's one of the things that's made us a good program in March, is that we're not exhausted at the end of the year because I believe in playing nine or 10 guys. Now, some coaches, look, I got five guys better than the bench. I understand that. But I think the way to win at the end is keeping fresh. Yeah. That's a great question. How do you keep them loose going into the tournament and in those back to back games?

You do anything differently? Do you get, are you a kind of coach that breaks out more of the motivational stuff going into the tournament? Are you like kind of dialing yourself back to make sure that you've got enough energy to make it through? I'm the same. Look, when you're not very talented, you've got to make up for it with some passion and some energy.

I am the same for a Division II exhibition game as I am for a Final Four game. The kids see no difference. Inside, I'm going, that shit crazy, OK? Inside, I am. But I'm the same crazy all year long. And so, you know, the kids don't see any difference and I don't want them because I want them to prepare, you know, and I want them to take every opponent seriously. And so, no, we don't dial it back.

We just, if it's not broke, don't fix it. Yeah. And so, it's been working. So, I think consistency is an important thing to show the kids as you get later in the season. Now, specifically, what about your voice and what about your own like, you know, your wardrobe? Like, these things are important. You yell a lot. You have a horse voice right now.

If you're playing three games in a row in the SEC tournament or you're going in March Madness and then like your wardrobe, you're sweating through everything. What is the Bruce Pearl? Like, do you have a coach for your, like, you need a coach for you and how to manage all your stuff? You have no idea how my staff takes such great care of me. Now that I'm 61, I'll be 62 in a week or so. They're giving me all kind of vitamins and I get memory pills and I get, you know, my trainer wants me to make sure I work out. They do.

They're worried about me getting my rest and, you know, taking, taking care of me. So, but the voice, I can tell you that on the second or third day, they look, the kids don't listen to me anyways. Okay. So what's, what's going to be the difference? They don't listen at this time this season, so they can't hear me. It might actually be a blessing. Have you ever had a game where you sweat so much so early or like, this is going to suck. Like this is, this is not going to be good. Hey, hey, hey, big cat, get, get the tape of my first year at Tennessee when I went down to Florida and we played, we played Billy Donovan in the year he won the national championship.

I wore a light green suit and I had a little fever that day. Plus I also sat out in the sun because I love the sun. And I went into that gym. I sweat through the entire suit. I mean, not just like the pits and not just the back or underneath the boobs, the whole thing, like trousers, like, like, you know, right down here, right? Hard to explain, not a good look. Yeah, I feel like that, that happens to college basketball coaches more than anybody else in the world. I think I don't know if you're necessarily sweatier than other professions, but it's something about being in that gym under those lights in certain environments.

Something about being in the gym, it's hot. You know, there's a, there's a swimming pool right next to the Florida gym so you could sort of smell the chlorine and it's, it's warm. And then here's the deal. I'm, I'm no longer coaching in a suit. Okay, but who decided that was a good idea? Like let's go ahead and put a hundred percent cotton shirt on. Let's button it up to the top. Then let's throw a noose around your neck.

On top of that, let's throw a winter coat and then go out there and coach. Now I do think that Jay Wright, that's a good idea. Jay Wright should continue to wear the suits. He's the one guy that he looks like he should always be in a suit. Yeah, but he's GQ. I mean, he's, he's a sexy man. I mean, most of us don't have that Jay Wright game. Yeah.

Like I want to go to, I want to go to games like Big Cat goes to the games at Wisconsin, you know, kind of like, you know, you know, you weren't very heavily clothed on that, on that game. No, I was not. I'm, I'm looking at the picture of you in that Florida game. You did sweat all the way through it. You also have a tie that went way past your belt buckle. I don't know what you were thinking there. I've always thought basketball coaches, yeah, you guys should wear uniforms. Like, you know what they say?

You know what they say about guys that have short ties, don't you? No. They don't have very big hands. Hmm. So they can't, you know, a short tie can't be a quarterback. Yeah, you got big hands. Gotcha. What about wearing an actual basketball jersey?

That'd be kind of cool. If it was like MLB. I don't think I could make that look very good. I just think sometimes those suckers taper. And I'm not sure. I'm not sure what, you know, how it looked down at the bottom. I, I, I, unless you could, unless I could keep it untucked and then the referee is going to go by, hey, talk, you got, talk, you sure?

Yeah. That just, they were already on me all the time. I don't need any more advice about how I'm going to dress. Well, I know you're a big chest paint guy. We're big chest painter guys. We were, I had the Wisconsin Badger on my chest. Big head had the basketball boobs. It was a great time.

It was our first time chest painting, but you used to do it back in Tennessee. I would, I, I think you could just like paint a suit on yourself on the sidelines. No, no, uh, look, when I did that Tennessee deal for Pat's summit, you know, they called me the incredible bulk. Okay. And, and, and, and then, and then when I was at the Georgia football game, you know, for our football team and I was just, we were hanging out with our players, my wife said, listen, that, that's enough.

Okay. America's seen quite enough for that body. It's, you need to put that thing away. So I'm done. I'm not, we're not going to get exposed anymore. Well, it's a bad combination. If you're going to be sweating to have the body paint, because then it just all runs down and it's just a, it's a, we got a puddle underneath your

social, an empty stomach. Yeah. Yeah. What, um, uh, you know, you obviously are very animated on the sidelines. How does it work with the referees in terms of game flow? Like the start of the game, before the game starts, are you going up to the refs and you know, saying how your kids and how like, you know, maybe talking to them and then is it slowly build up?

Yeah, we used to, but now because of COVID, you know, we, we're not allowed to touch each other. We're not allowed to get, you know, we can't get that close contact. So I can't, I can't schmooze with them at all. Um, and then, but seriously, the, the, I, again, I guess going back to being the same, uh, I will take my players on during the course of the game and holler at them. And, uh, and so therefore what I'm holler, the referees seem to holler at the

kids way more than, than I'm hollering at them. And so if occasionally I holler at the referees with sort of the same tone, you know, they're used to it because they've heard me berating my players. So what I give them is far less than what I'm telling my players. So they, for the most part, they tolerate. That's interesting. So they're, they're hearing it and they're getting almost like, okay, this is, wait, this is his baseline.

So when he yells at us with his baseline, it's no different. It's not like he's extra angry. That's right. I don't know for real, for real. That's smart. That's very smart. And how do you feel about the, uh, the handshake line post game? We're big fans of the handshake line, just as we're watching on TV, uh, just

because it's just something else for us to watch after the game's over. Um, but, but from your perspective, you guys are just watching, waiting to see if there's going to be a fight. That's the only reason why you guys are wondering what's going to happen. Yeah, right. Uh, look, listen, the thing I like about it is if you look at the players, all right, the players who were actually the ones out there having to contact. It's like, it's like after a boxing match, I've always wondered at the two

dudes are beating each other's brains in, right? How they embrace and really hug one another. And it's almost like gladiators going back in the day. You know, it's sort of an honorable thing to compete against an honorable opponent, some of that's trained really hard, somebody that's been in this fight. But when the bell rings or the buzzer sounds, that contest is over. And I, I, I think that, you know, that there should be a handshake line. And I think you should win or lose, congratulate your opponent and Victor

in the feet. And, um, there's no way we should give up on that. That would be a bad, that'd be a bad look. What message are we sending to the young people? Bad message. Now, uh, when you were at the horizon league and, you know, Jimmy Collins, the people know coach Pearl, there's been a few things in the past that Iowa, Illinois thing you did not shake hands with Jimmy Collins for, I think it was

four or five years that you guys were in the horizon league together. Was there ever a time when one of you almost shook the other person's hand? Or was it just mutually agreed upon? I hate you. You hate me. This isn't happening. Well, first of all, Jimmy, Jimmy has passed. So in honor of that, you know, I just think we need to wreck is that Jimmy

Collins was a terrific coach and he was, he was a great competitor. Our teams at UIC and Milwaukee, we got after each other. And yes, there was absolutely something personal. And yes, there was, uh, uh, at times when we went through the handshake line and didn't shake each other hand, I always put my hand out. Um, and, and it was coach Collins that shows not to, that was, that was his decision, but I'm telling you our teams, our teams competed and our teams played for championships.

So yeah, that wasn't, wasn't a great look. Yeah. Um, I'm not, not proud of it. Yeah. Did you guys ever, did you guys ever have a chance to speak and kind of, uh, you know, squash things and, and was it an apology from you? Or how did it work out? Look, both, both, both sides, both sides aired.

And, um, it was part of, part of a kind of a messy process. Um, but we had a very, very positive conversation. Um, and like Deon Thomas, uh, the young man that was most negatively, negatively affected by it. That's what I felt bad about that he kind of got caught in the middle on both sides doing, doing things that shouldn't have been done. And, uh, Deon Thomas is about as good a player and as good a person, as good a coach and a leader as there is.

And Deon, Deon, Deon and I have absolutely buried the hatchet. Could you, could you feel after that incident happened? Like, you know, obviously people said Bruce pro got kind of black bald for a while. You were coaching division two, one, a national title division two. Could you feel that? Could you feel that you were on the outside for a while there? I, I did a little bit, you know, but God's got a plan.

Right. I mean, I truly believe that. And, and, and I have been so blessed. You know, I've been coaching, I've been in college basketball since I was 18 years old at Boston college. I don't know how many years I've been a head coach, but it's been a long time now. I mean, I didn't get my first shot till I was 32 in division two and I had to go to the D2 route, probably because of what happened with Illinois.

But you know what? Things have worked out, man. I cut my teeth. I learned how to coach. I worried about what I could control. And at stops at Southern Indiana, Wisconsin, Milwaukee, Tennessee and Auburn, they've all been great stops for myself and my family. So whatever we may not have understood at the time, but you got to make the best

of what you got in a moment and look, that's what you guys have done. And that's, that's what I've tried to do every place I've been. Yeah. Yeah. And like I said earlier, the SEC has some real personalities at coach. Like they've got some of the great ones in college basketball at the time. Is there, if you were to say, like going through those new handshake lines that you have to do now in the SEC, which ones, which coaches give you

the best handshakes and which ones give you the blow-bys? This is an important question. That is a very important question. I'm not going to throw anybody under the bus. You know, you've got a few guys that'll look you in the eye and you've got a few guys that'll, they'll give you the dry-bys. I'll just say this. The best handshake is Rick Barnes.

He would, I would say he was the best handshake. The guy that I thought was the best in our business as a coach was Billy Donovan. I thought Billy Donovan was the best coach in our business, in our league for years. And you're right about our league. I mean, our league right now is scary good. And I'm not going to tell you guys how to bet, but I'm just saying this. Look at some of the teams that finished in the middle of our league right now.

Some of the teams that are going to be seeded, I don't know, anywhere from five to nine or 10, maybe. I'm just telling you, you do not want to play so those teams. And answer that by tournament. I'm just saying, you weren't here right now. Yeah, we're, we should have said it at the start, but we are must-bust guys. We are loyal to, to, to must. We're also loyal to top three.

Why? Why? Well, he's a good guy. I know a couple of guys on his staff. It's, he's, he's electric, you know, Arkansas is fun. So that's just, you know, I have my allegiance there. I want to let you know beforehand. I appreciate that up front, but I mean, I live four years in Milwaukee. We have the best run and, you know, and you guys get a little

of that Midwestern, Wisconsin base, right? Yeah, I love, I love the Horizon League. I think the Horizon League is always like exceptional basketball in terms of people sleep on it and then you watch it and they're always playing at a high level. You're right. But then the University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee went into that Horizon League. Right. And we, and we, we kind of, I don't want to say we dominated, but we made the

tournament, you know, two out of four years. We got to the sweet 16. I hope, I hope, you know, and you, you know, back in the day, you were nobody from nowhere back then. I hope you, I hope you were proud of the Panthers. I mean, they were good. Your teams were very good. You're a great coach.

You're a fantastic coach. You're not going to sell me though. I'm not going to change away from the. You know, I'm old, you're young, my kids, my players, my son, Stephen, who's, you know, all my staff, like they can't believe that I'm on with you guys. Like there's no way, like there's no way, dad, you're on with these guys. So, you know, it does hurt my feelings at one of my rivals that you, but I, but I respect your loyalty.

I just, I just hope I can earn, you know, from this point forward. Well, maybe, maybe I can, maybe I can be one of your guys. I'd, that'd be awesome. We could, we could talk about it. We can find mutual, we can find mutual agreement and that NATO is a terrible coach. Um, no, I put you in a bad spot there. All right. So you, you mentioned your age.

Do you know about Auburn Twitter? Do you know how passionate Auburn fans are on Twitter? They are Auburn basketball fans are the craziest fans in a good way on Twitter. They mean people to death. They, uh, like we, if we say one offhand comment about Auburn basketball, it's like World War three in our mentions. It's, you have the most passionate, crazy fan base that always has your back. Have you seen some of these memes, like Goose Pearl, you just got beat by Goose

Pearl and there's like all these different things that are very, very funny. I've seen some of them. You know, I get, I don't spend a lot of time on it, but I have seen some of them, but you just made my day. Listen, I can be down the list as one of your favorite coaches, but when you tell me that we've got the most crazy, insane, passionate, wild fan base, those memes and those, you know, the guys on the Twitter bombs, man, look, we good.

Yeah, we're, we're good. No, I think it's great because it does bring everybody into the conversation. And, and one of the things that's been fun has been, um, the fact that our fans have traveled the fact they're going to have a great following in Tampa. Hope we can stay for a few days by winning some games. And, you know, in this wacky world that we're living in right now with so much, you know, so many real, real, real challenges, the war over there in Ukraine and everything that's going on.

It's not, you know, these are not the best of times. I mean, it's great that at least we, you can provide, um, you know, this opportunity to, to enjoy the game and enjoy the game more than just on the court and the field, but off it as well, which I think is a lot of fun. It's very true because it's, it's all in good fun. And I, I, I got turned on to it when, uh, in January, I think when you played Alabama, Alabama refused to post the final score. And so I, I've become a de facto like guy that everyone goes to when a

team doesn't post the final score. So I was trying to pressure them to post it and I was watching as Alabama or Auburn fans were going into like every tweet that they had and memeing them just constantly. I was like, I was like literally lying in bed, like laughing my ass off thinking it was the funniest thing ever. So it's, you have a very, very strong, crazy, rabid, supporting, uh, group of fans online for you.

Well, we appreciate that. Look, and I want the kids to have fun. I do. And, and, and I've added sometimes to the rivalry, you know, when, when, when Alabama came in here and football and, and wound up winning the last minute and a half of that game after Auburn and won the entire game and we got beat. Our students, our basketball players sits right there in the end zone. Um, and so the Alabama football team kind of got up there and they did the crane

and, and, and, and I, I, I didn't remember that. So when we beat Alabama at Alabama, we had three or four guys, you know, just all of a sudden did the crane because Alabama football started it. Yeah. And I kind of liked it because I thought it just sort of added to the rivalry. Yes. I didn't look at it as tremendous in sports. But like I told my guys, I said, look, the next time Alabama beats us.

Okay. They're going to do the same thing to us. So if you're going to dish it out, you better be able to take it. So after we beat Alabama for the second time, you know, I got the brim out. I swept the court. Yeah. Now I know that may not, that may not serve me well the next time we play Alabama, but that's what, that's what it's all about.

We got to have some fun. No, you got to let the kids dance and, and have fun. No, I like that. I think most fans of the game like that too, unless you're an Alabama fan, but in a way that's good for them too, because it lights a fire, you know, it gets the fan base more passionate. Next time you guys play, it means more tickets are going to sell faster. More people are going to watch it on TV.

It's just good for the sport in general to have people be able to show their personality out there. I was, I was actually curious what you thought of some of the comments recently from certain sports journalists. Don't want to name any names, but there have been people that have been like idiots that are totally critical of how Jabari Smith is being used late in games that have said some really pointed things about and doubted and doubted his ability to really succeed in the tournament when a

lot of these games do come down to, you know, the final possession. Can he create off the dribble on his own? I'm curious what you would say to those fucking morons out there who are big basketball guys, big, some of the top analysts in our game. Yeah, you know, it's, uh, I'm actually looking, I'm just looking at something here. Um, I don't have read in front of you, but the last four games as we're coming down the stretch, you know, Jabari's playing better and better and better as the season progresses.

Guys, he's 18 years old. The kid, he's 18 and every night he's the best player on the floor. And I think the last four or five games, he's average like 27, but he shot a great percentage. He's not a pig. All right. And he's a great teammate. If he was my point guard, it would be easier to make sure you got the last

shot because the ball be in his hands. He's not, I've got a point guard that either, that I completely trust to be able to either take that last shot or get him that shot. And so it's worked out a few times. It's not worked out a few times. Put it on me. Don't do not put it on Jabari. He wants the ball.

He's not afraid of the moment. And I believe that if he had that shot, he'd make it. Look, he's made big shots down the stretch to put us in position to have the last shot. So that is not Jabari Smith's fault. Go ahead and doubt him. Yeah, go ahead and doubt it. Go ahead.

Good luck taking anybody else. Number one, I'm just telling you, do not doubt that kid. He is one of the greatest competitors that I've ever, ever coached. He's the best jump shooter I've ever coached. And that's actually at any position. And I coached the two best three point shooters in the history of the SEC, Chris Lofton at Tennessee and Bryce Brown at Auburn. And, and, and I'm just telling you.

So, uh, yeah, I, I, again, I don't pay attention to that. So if they're criticizing Jabari, they shouldn't, they should be criticizing me for not getting my team a better shot. Haters are on notice. I let him know what, um, a basketball question, like a nerdy question. What's your favorite play when executed correctly? Well, I think probably a middle ball screen where I've got my, the ball in my point guard's hand.

I've got Walker Kessler rolling to the rim for a dunk. And I've got Jabari Smith opening one of the corners to be able to protect the rim and the corner is one of the hardest thing to do defensively in basketball. And that's probably what I trust the most. Okay. I like that answer. I also love just like watching you guys play.

I like any team that, that, that runs clear backdoor cuts, like in their offense, cause I don't, I, there's something about a perfectly executed backdoor cut that gets someone, you know, caught looking and it's, it's, it's just beautiful to watch. Well, Pete Carrillo would love, love to hear you say that, but obviously that is one of the things that does, um, you know, does can different, different. You know, you take advantage of what I've overplayed and that is something that we all, it's only two points, but somehow a backdoor, two points

seems to be worth more. Yeah. It really, it really is like a perfect pick and roll, perfect backdoor cut. There's just something about it where it's like, ooh, that's, that's just great team basketball. Yeah. And, and, and, and oftentimes what a great coach for getting them backdoor. When the reality was it was defense overplaying it.

It was the passer making a break, crass and the cutter setting it up. So, and having the backside cleared out with other actions. So it takes a lot to get that backdoor. They're not easy to get, but when they do, when it does work, it is, it's special. How many, how many out of bounds plays do you have? We have one set. It's always one and four flat. And what I believe in play calling is you make every play look exactly

like the other plays and they're all counters to one another. And you sort of build off them. So we don't have a, a line of four, we don't have a box, we don't have a triangle, we don't have an offset box. We have a line of four all the time. So that I think that's harder to scout and harder to guard. And there's a lot of variations off of what we do there. Yeah.

Yeah. I think it's, I think it's also a very dangerous place to have the ball because even though it's a dead ball set and the guy out of bounds with the ball can't dribble it and he can't shoot it, he can only pass it. I still think it's a great place to have the ball, to get some inside out offense. And so it's very much like when the ball goes into the post, what can you do to get a good look with the exception of post shot?

Yeah. And so we, we try to score and it will be, and we try to prevent you from scoring on yours. Yeah. On defense, on an out of bounds play, what are your thoughts on guarding the inbounder? We, we put, we put size on the ball where we've been, you know, I've done this for 25, 30 years, not a lot of teams do it, but I will press you when

you have the ball underneath your own basket, even though it's very a dangerous place and you're one pass away from a great shot, we actually will try to press you and not let you get it in. What about, you mentioned obviously the Tuesday night game that we were at Wisconsin playing Purdue. What did you think about Greg Guard's decision at the end of the game to not call a timeout with eight seconds left? Do you lean more towards that or let the guys play, let them, let your

playmakers get down there without the defense being able to get set and hope for the best? Yeah, I'm for, I'm for that. I'm for that in the sense that the hardest thing to guard is, is transition offense. In other words, you've just gotten down and, and both teams are changing ends of the floor. You don't always have the best matchups.

You can't build a wall. Um, no, I'd rather get that ball, get guys down the floor, get some spacing and, and get a shot. And there's a chance you got a chance to get to the rim or get a shot better than if we call timeout and set something else up, give them a chance to defend it. And, uh, more often than not, that's worked out well for us. So I'm a believer in not calling timeout. Yeah.

We were talking about this last week on the show, um, about how effective the press is in college basketball, uh, usually because there are only a couple guys on the team that are really outstanding ball handlers. That's changed a little bit in the last 10, 15 years where some of the bigger guys too are able to handle the ball, but we were just having a debate. How come no NBA team has used a press effectively, at least in recent memory? Yeah, it's because I would think a couple of things, just incredible size the rim, the ability to, again, length and size, throw over the top of the press.

And it's all you can do in the NBA to get bodies between bodies. And so again, think about the size of those men. It's the same size of a court, uh, uh, and the same playing field. You know, when you're, when you're, when your little kids are playing little league, they're playing on these really tiny fields. And as they get older and then all of a sudden when they get to the high school, like, Oh my God, I can't believe how huge this high school baseball diamond is. Well, the same size of a high school baseball diamond, same size of major league

diamond, same thing, the basketball courts, 84, the college courts, 94. It's hard to get to the rim with all those men in the lane. And so why, why take all those bodies out away from putting five bodies at that three point line? Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it is fun when we've been talking about it, like, you know, Nolan Richardson, 40 minutes from hell, that kind of, that kind of basketball, you know,

Petino used to do it. Uh, it's, it, it seems like it's, it's harder to, to do that now just with, like you said, you know, you don't want to spread it out too much. Guys can shoot threes better. Guys can handle better. All those things. Well, I think the other things have been, the biggest thing is real changes. The number one thing is it's virtually impossible to trap nowadays by virtue of

that comb, in other words, it's like, it's like dirty dancing. You know, you're in my space. I'm in your space. We're not allowed to get in each other's space. Well, back when, when I came from a pressing coach, Dr. Tom Davis and Gary Williams, we pressed all the time and a trap, you'd trap, you'd press up, you get in somebody else's space and they turn the ball over. That's not a foul on the defense.

Right. So actually the last several years, they have virtually legislated against full court pressure and trapping. And if you can't trap, it's really no advantage, not much of an advantage to extend your defense. Yeah, it's always interesting watching the, the press though, in, in March madness, because there will be some times when I feel like a coach has identified that the moment might be too big for the other team's point guard or one particular

guy that's struggling. And since they're younger kids that might not have as much experience, it's just like, okay, let's turn the pressure up to 15 and see if this guy can handle in prime time. That's, that's what I like watching about the press. I hope that, you know, it continues this year. But yeah, it will. And let me tell you something.

One reason why the press can even be more effective right now is nobody's pressing. So therefore you get in the game against a team that presses, you've not seen that pressure all year long. We've seen everything else there is to see by this time of the year. And so that's why no lead is safe and all of a sudden team can turn up the press, the opponent, not just not rising to the moment. They've not played it all year long and do it. Do you attack it?

Don't you attack it? You know, you're trying to run clock. Man, it's, hey, look, Gary Williams always told me, I don't know what teams would do if they were down, if they didn't have a pressure package in. And so we, we don't press a lot, but we press, but we have a pressure package in for when we need it. Who do you think screams more? You or Gary Williams?

Who's spits more? Screams, screams, who's, who's louder? I'm not, I'm not, I don't know, but I can't, I can't imagine Gary screams more than I do. Hey, what coach is there any coach that screams more than you? Buzz Williams will holler a little bit. He'll shout and holler a little bit. Yeah.

And, and, and Buzz, Buzz will probably, he'll, he'll, he's probably could be the 11th man out there because he'll, he, he not afraid to get out there and he gets down to stance. He's a big dude. He probably the best screen setter they got out there at Texas A&M. Now, man, we all, we all out there barking and, and I'm not a whistler. See the problem is I'm not a whistler and guys that could whistle, they could get the guys attention really quickly.

I'm more of a screamer and a foot stomper. I would say Danny Hurley probably has you beat that game you guys played earlier this year. I mean, that's, those are two Titans in the screaming, boisterous coaching game. Yeah. Titans. Absolutely. He learned it from the best.

He learned it from his dad. Yeah. That whole, that whole Hurley crowd, they'll get after you now. Those are tough guys. Yeah. Jersey guys, tough guys. All right. So, you know, we, we, we, we touched a little bit on, on your pass and I, you

know, we're, we hate the NCAA. So we're, we're usually on the coaches side. I had one thing though that it must suck because, you know, you've had some things in your past that people bring up, but one thing you didn't do, but you were there for, you mentioned you were a grad assistant on the Boston College basketball team, it also was when the point shaving thing happened, you had nothing to do with it. Does that suck though?

That people are like, wait, that's weird. Bruce Pearl was there. Man, there's so much, you worry, again, worry about what you could control. I was a freshman manager on that team and you know, I knew those guys and you know, when you look back on it, some of the stuff that went on now made sense, but just no way you could have known what was going on. You know, Rick Kuhn had actually broken his nose and he wore a mask for part of that season.

But part of the reason why he might have worn a mask was because he didn't want to see, have people see his facial expressions as they were doing, whatever it was that they were doing, man, it was tragic. And the fact that it was connected to organized crime, it was dangerous. And you know, I, you know, that was a very, very, you know, a very difficult time. It was heartbreaking time for the players and the coaches that kind of went through that to have a couple of those guys. And don't forget, don't forget, they were kids, adults, adults pressured those kids.

I know those guys look like men when they're out there on the floor. They're still student athletes, guys. You got to remember they're 18, 19 years old. They're impressionable. And a lot of times they're just doing what the adults will have them do. Yeah. So don't lose sight of that. They're just kids.

Yeah. I mean, it's just, it's one of those things you had nothing to do with. You're like, you're like the forest gump of NCAA sanctions where it's like, just show up in the back. Like what the hell? This happened? You were there? Yeah.

So I just, I saw it and I was like, that's got to suck for you because, you know, it's like you had nothing to do with it. Man, if you just, again, you just made my day again. You compared me to forest gump, like forest gumps, like my favorite. All of NCAA sanctions though. That's probably not the best one. Well, I mean, but still you still, wait a minute, you can't take it back. You can't take it back.

You just compared me to forest gump. I got you. You got you. I like to yelling. You're right. You're right. You're a bunch of chocolates. You're positive.

You can't get what you take. You can't take that back. You told me forest gump. You're now, I'm, listen, I'm not. I know what love is. I know what love is. Yes. Muscleman's going to listen to this.

So I'm not saying that you're getting closer to be one of my guys, but you're getting closer to being one of my guys first date. Yeah, I'm not expecting to be one of your guys. I mean, this is our first date. I just hope you ask me back. I just hope. Yes. Yes.

And I love your positivity because I said forest gump of NCAA sanctions. And you took away from it. You compare me to forest gump. Absolutely. But that's awesome. Let me ask you a question. Why did Jenny? Why did Jenny leave the second time?

Because that bothers me to this day right now. She didn't want to break his heart. She didn't love Jenny. She didn't want them to get too close. I think it is my favorite movie of all time. When he cries, when he's talking to his mom's grave, I cry every time. We should, we should make it. We should remake it with Bruce Pearl.

That'll be a counterpoint. He went, you know what? He went to Alabama. No, no, you're right. You're, I'm not, I'm nowhere near a forest gump. And forest gump and a heart of gold. I'm not, I'm not worthy of that. You got to take that.

You got to take that back. No, I'm not taking it back. I refuse. I refuse. Take it back. I refuse. Okay. Coach, I read a story that when you, I think it was that, that, that same stop

at Boston college where the school mascot got sick, couldn't make it to a game. And you raised your hand and you said, I'll do this one, coach. I didn't raise my hand, but when the mascot got sick, our coach, Dr. Tom Davis said, send the suit with the cheerleaders. Uh, I got somebody on the end of my bench that I know can wear it. And so coach Davis came to me and he said, look, Eddie, the eagle got sick. Can you, can you do this mascot thing? I mean, I had no mascot training, but I guess really my whole life, I've been a

mascot, so I guess it's been a lifetime of training. And, um, so I put the suit on and seriously, it was a Tuscaloosa, Alabama, first round in subway tournament, Boston college ball state. And we beat Wake Forest and, and, uh, anyways, listen. Back in the day, they used to wire mic the baskets so that you can hear some of chatter, you can hear the sneakers, sweet, you can hear the ball, right? When hit the rim, I get a ladder out of a closet and I, I, I climb up the ladder behind the basket.

When Ray McCallum from ball state shooting a free throw and I'm flapping my wings, only problem is I'm hitting the microphone, bam, bam, bam. The next day there's a huge meeting with the NCAA that I'm almost going to lose the ability to be the mascot. Like seriously, so if you think my first run in with the NCAA was a barbecue, you're wrong. It was when I was a mascot. And by the way, right here on part of my take, that's the first time that's ever

come out. That's breaking news. Oh, I love it. I love it. You almost got a lifetime suspension before your coaching career even started. I almost did. Yeah, I almost, that wasn't God's plan that wasn't his plan. It's like you almost got a lifetime suspension before all the other times

you almost got a lifetime suspension for a lifetime. Yeah, lifetime. Um, all right. So I've won that's, but now I got a lifetime contract. Yes. So see it's all about, it's all about a lifetime and you're a recurring guest on this show. So that means you have to come on whenever we ask.

So that's a lifetime as well. Yeah. My kids, my kids and the Auburn, by the way, the Auburn Twitter, right now, they're going batshit crazy. Right now, because you invited me, you invited me back. Yes. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

No, you're coming back. No, I'm excited for it. Um, all right. So I have one last question. It's the rowback question. Put in promo code take rowback.com for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Use code take for 20% off your first purchase.

Uh, all right. You, I, I, the game that you guys won, I think it was against Alabama. Afterwards, you said Auburn's now in everything school. Have you truly been able to feel like, okay, you know, football's king in the South, we all know this, but have you really felt like that the shift has started where, where, where basketball is really getting a spot at the table here in terms of the SEC? Well, that's a great question.

One of the things that takes place is we don't know who's on the schedule. We don't know who the opponent is. We don't know our enemies. It happens in the United States of America right now. We can't tell our allies from our enemies and enemies. And it's, it's sickening in, in corporations, in companies. We fight from within. We kill our own instead of understanding who the competition is.

I know my competition, my competition is not the women's basketball team or the baseball team or the football team. And so what I say, I really mean, we're in everything school. If football is great, that's not going to take away any shine from basketball, basketball is great. And so we need to stop being jealous of another man's success. We need to know who our friends and our family are, and we need to stay together. And we need to know we need to keep our eye.

Clint Eastwood said of it, you know, keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I like it though. It's, it's a great, like bigger lesson of, of, you know, always looking over your shoulder or what the other person is doing in your same corporation. Like you said, it's, it's a really bad negative characteristic to have. And it just sucks your own energy. It sucks your own energy. And then the other thing too is by saying that, and let's say you're believing

it, I'm talking to the school of engineering. I'm talking to our accounting majors. I'm talking to school of nursing. You come to Auburn to be anything you want because we've got, we've got, because we are in everything school. SUNY Lee is, is competing, you know, you know, she's the, she's the world's greatest gymnast, right? She's here as a freshman at Auburn.

Competing to be another, win a gold medal again next year and be the world's greatest gymnast. Jabari Smith is, you know, could be the best player of college basketball. He's at Auburn, you know, competing, you know, Tank Bixby's are, are running back. You know, it's, it's, uh, Auburn's a great place and we are in everything school. Yeah, I love it. I love it. My last question was just about, um, if you have a hold back coach on the

sidelines, is there a guy who's specific job it is to make sure you don't stray too far out onto the court or are you too close to the ref? Who's that? Well, I've got, I have three. You think one guy could get this job done? No, I have three assistants, you know, uh, uh, I got West Flanagan, my son, Stephen, you know, chat pro and then, and the guy at the anchor, um, is Mike burgamaster and, uh, Mike's about, he's about six, seven.

He'll go north of three. Okay. He's a big boy. And so he gets the tongue on that last rope. But now that I'm no longer wearing a jacket, it's, it's a challenge. You know, he's not exactly, he doesn't have anything. So he'll grab my, my waist and hold on to me there. Yeah.

Do you have rules where it's like, okay, if I go out this far, it's time to pull me back and, uh, you know, I'm sure there are times where you try to get them off you because you want to go out and continue giving a piece of your mind. Is there a rule or a word that you can say that it's like your safe word? When I say this, I mean, really get off me. No, I don't, I don't, I don't go for that. Hold me back stuff. If I want to go, I got to go.

A lot of guys want to act like they want to get in a fight and throw a punch. You know, oh, hold me back, hold me back. Yeah. Oh, I would have gotten you if you'd help me back. No, if I go that far, then I'm either going to get hit first or I'm going to hit, I'm going to hit somebody. You could just say, John Howard, when you say that, when people want to be held back and then throw a punch, that's what we're all thinking.

The finger, the finger in the face. Uh, coach, thank you so much. We appreciate it. You are a recurring guest now. So we'll absolutely have you back on and maybe come down and visit you. We love, we love going on the road and seeing different facilities and stuff. Yeah. Well, I love, I'm great.

Just don't bring those guys in a rain jacket. It's okay. We're tired of those rain jacket guys showing up, trying to storm all of our courts, you know, I just, I just, uh, but, but I love it. I love it. And I appreciate what you guys, what you guys are doing. And the fact that there are, there are a lot of really positive messages in what you're saying, but, uh, the entertainment of the young people guys, you guys have a

voice, you guys have a really voice. And so keep entertaining us, but keep giving those young people that are listening to you, those subtle messages about what a great country live in and what an opportunity we all have to be great in this country. And so much, much blessing that's doing you. I love it. And you did, you were scared of the storm chasers. You saw them in Mississippi state.

You saw them in Starkville. You're like, uh, oh, I saw, I saw them walk in, you know, but actually, but one good thing is they didn't get the storm, the court, didn't they? I know. Close. It was very close. They made all that effort to go to Starkville, Mississippi. You got to, you got to want to go to Starkville to go to Starkville, right?

You got to really want to get there. And they got there and, and they went home. It was close over time. Yeah, it was very soon for you. No soup for you. All right. Thank you so much. Thank you so much, coach.

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True bill.com slash take. Now here is Atlanta Falcons head coach Arthur Smith. And now for something completely different. OK, we now welcome on very special guest. It is head coach of the Atlanta Falcons, Arthur Smith. Coach, should we do coach or Arthur? Art. Art, either one.

I mean, I'm from a huge family. I get called all kind of things. Well, actually, we can just start there. You have nine siblings. That's right. Can you name them all? Yeah, they start. It's my oldest sister.

My dad had two daughters from previous marriage. My mom had one. So it was Wendy. Unfortunately, she passed away in 2005. And then Laurie and then Stacy, my mom's daughter, and then they're married. They got married. Still married. There's seven of us.

Richard, Kathleen, Molly, myself, Rachel, Sam, and then Canon. You're pretty much Sean McVeigh. Yeah, that was incredible. I don't know about that. I don't have the photographic memory Sean's got. Better than Antonio Cromarty. That was good. No more.

Know what I really want to start with. We got to do it. We got to we got to break the ice. Yeah. The beard looks good. Well, here, I kind of copied you. OK, here's the thing. As a guy that's like a thick alpha male like yourself, it's a good look.

So I stole it from you. Two of us. Yeah, no doubt, no offense, but it's OK. I honestly can't grow facial hair at all. So I have no room to talk about it. I do like it's almost like the faux mutton chop look. It is. Yeah.

And like the longer it grows, the better. Like when I was in London, like I was kind of the vibe I was trying to throw. And I think it worked, but we'll see. But but it was a good idea. And so, yeah. And you you credited your wife with the idea. I did. Yeah. Does your wife credit us with the idea?

She does. OK, because we did it. She didn't have to credit it directly after we roasted you because you had a fat neck. Yeah, the gobbler was the gobbler was looking big as a guy who has a fat neck. It's right. And if you get a bad angle, right? Lights out here. Yeah. Lights out. Bad angle.

Bad angles over. But that's a good part about being a big family. Like, even if I don't like pay attention to something, it's going to get blasted my way. OK, so that's your way of saying you don't listen, but someone else does. No, I like that. I was like, no, no, it's not like the hey, I'm too cool. I don't pay attention to like the good stuff. It gets passed.

Yeah, you got the alpha back with that move. Yeah, like, I don't actually listen to you guys. Someone sort of slips it up and sends it. And so we got put on this group text by Will Compton used to play for you in Tennessee. And he just kind of alerted you to I think he probably learned you to some of what we were saying, but he was trying to connect us, get on the right foot. And it kind of worked because we started rooting for your beard. Yes, good. Oh, I need to grow it out more.

I've kind of kept it trim, like no pun there. But because more like in London, it was the chops were going. So I've kind of kept it. And then, you know, I'm thinking maybe if we get hot, I'm going to I'm going to switch to the stash. Yeah. And I think we I think we told you maybe hold the play card closer to your face, things like that. There's different ways that you can distract. Maybe start wearing Hawaiian shirts. That's usually my move.

It distracts people with all kinds of like looks and everything. Maybe like a chin strap, like just just a chin strap. Not a helmet, like you're just a chin. Yeah, exactly. Or just mask up. I'm going to say this before it took your style. He did a little bit. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I didn't I didn't feel very handsome. Yeah. No, it's not a shot at Matt.

Matt's Matt. Don't get sensitive there, Matt. But oh, he would. Oh, I know. But I mean, he kind of he kind of dabbled in your look. He dabbled a little bit. I remember the first time that we came to the combine as a group. It was I think it was actually Sean McPhee's first year as a coach. And I was just I was roasting his facial hair because it's too finely manicured. Like the lines are perfect.

He gets on there with like a straight razor and like probably uses some sort of cut out to it. It's a fine line that you got to walk between having a nice beard, but also not looking like you put too much time into your beard. Yeah, it's hard for me to get up in front of a team and say, hey, we're going to be physical and all that stuff. And I'm like, you got like this little manicured beard. I just wouldn't work for me. Yeah. Well, that guy did win a Super Bowl.

No, it works as I said. No, that's not again, no shot. No shot. Sean McPhee, but Sean McVeith didn't come up to us. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it works for him. Yeah. Clearly he's doing something right. And that's but for me, you know, I don't think it would work. This is the nitty gritty people want to hear. It's just head coaches, beards.

Absolutely. It's kind of going around. Yeah. Kyle had one on their playoff run. There was a lot of them going around Cliff Kingsbury. Yeah. Yeah. And their playoff. I think Salah grew one. Yeah. He made a copy of me. Yeah. Robert, you made a copy of me. I think he did.

He did. I think he did. How, how is the last year been? How is it? Was that weird to be like to walk in the first day and be like, OK, this is my team? Yeah, it was a little strange. But I mean, I think you got to keep perspective. I think the problem is a lot of guys, a lot of guys, the longer than his business, they get jaded and you got to get stuff back.

Like people would kill to be in our spot. And and they're all good problems to have. I mean, that's part of the job. But it's that's awesome. Glad to be here coming here too. It's good to actually be back in Indy. Yeah. I'm always fascinated to hear what coaches do when they take over a team. Like trying to change the culture.

Like I think Bill Parcell said, change the carpet. That's the first thing that you do. Some guys are like, I'm taking the ping pong table out of the locker room. Some guys put the ping pong table back in. You were a lap guy, right? You had you had him run laps at one point at one point. And that was just because like too many false starts. So just one just one old school something.

What else did you do? Like right from the get go, we were like, OK, this is we're going to change. New turn the page. New chapter. Well, there was a ton of change. I mean, just overall staff turnover. The one thing I didn't want to do is I'm very conscious as I've been held over for and obviously it's part of the profession.

But like I didn't want to come in there because there's been good coaches and players in before. And I think the easy thing to do is I think I got a lot of respect for Dan Quinn. I think he's a football coach and I never wanted to look like I was taking a shot at Dan. Like some points going to end for us all. So I just slowly as you want to here's how we want to build it. And Terry and I kind of had a shared vision and you just kind of slowly. Implement your culture.

I have no idea what's going on outside. They're like they're they're like cheering out in the in the lobby. I think it's a pep rally for the Rutgers women's basketball. Oh, yeah, because it didn't end yet. Yeah, it's here. I saw a video of you today. Yeah, yeah, I had my shirt off. It was OK.

That's actually a little tip for you. If you if you take your shirt off, just paint your breasts as basketballs or footballs. Yeah, I didn't see the paint on you. OK, yeah, yeah, it came off. Yeah, you did do one thing when you got hired. You gave an incredibly impassioned speech on social media on play for you real quick. Hey, Falcon fans, I'm so excited to be your new head coach. We're so excited.

My family and I moved to Atlanta and get this thing going. Rise up. Wow. I want to run through a brick wall. Let me play one more time. I'm so excited to be your new head coach. Yeah, here's the thing about that. I think I always always joke. I think they thought like, hey, we're going to hire like Terry and I was joked.

They're going to hire these like younger like they'll be on it out. If that wasn't day one, I never would have done that. Yeah. So they tried to get us a lot of selfies and I was like, oh, my God, it's terrible. Yeah, that's just not me. They hired the wrong guy to be like this cool, like young hip. Yeah, it was like a hostage video when he was like, come to FAU, please. No, wait, I bet you'd look good, though.

If they did one of those like ready to get to work videos like they started to do this year, I think Brian Dable had one of those where you just drive up in a car and then you step out of the car in a slow motion and walk into the office. Yeah, that's that's a huge one. Yeah, no, I know I got it. I'll change it up. OK, I'll start doing selfies after we we win. Yes, dumb question.

But little kernel of truth, Arthur Smith hires you. How much of that is because he's just like I found another Arthur Arthur blank or Arthur blank hires Arthur Smith because he's like, oh, shit, another Arthur. We don't have like there's the art bark and that's it. Yeah, I don't know. It probably bite into it. It had to be a little bit, right? They probably helped me. Yeah. Yeah.

Does he call you coach Arthur? Yeah, you call him Art. No, I go Mr. Blank. Mr. Blank, that's a blank. That is smart. Is your intent up at all with him for like in, you know, not to bring up bad memories, but the Cowboys game this year or a game like that? Actually, that might have been in Dallas, but he's a big fan of coming down onto the sideline sometimes

and just like walking behind. Are you like you ever looking over your shoulder like, oh, is my boss down here? No, I didn't bother me. Yeah, ever. No, I mean, like when we were in London, I saw him over there and we launched one of the pits. And I saw him. I think I gave him a fist pump on the sideline. Like you got to embrace. Yeah, it's his team.

Like that stuff like that doesn't bother me. Yeah. All right. So we're at the combine. Can we ask for you to tell us what your crazy combine question is that you ask people? No, because I mean, it's just become like just get right to football. Nothing. No. I mean, all the background works done. Sam Howell said that he had to shoot on a mini hoop for the Eagles.

Yeah, I mean, that and I don't know. That must be Nick's thing. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Nick likes a little sticky stuff. What about the cat or dog question? You do that one? No. Just like let's talk ball. Yeah, you just get right to football. What about how many ping pong balls in a seven forty seven? No. Who asked that one?

I actually don't. I don't know. I think that's like a job interview question. It's a job question. Do you ask? Do you guys ask that when you? Yeah, yeah, we're asking right now. I think sadly, I should probably know that like random fact, but I don't guess. Forty thousand wrong. How many? It's forty thousand one. Yeah. Seventy million. No.

Yes. No one knows the answer. That you ask. Did you ask Hank that? Yeah, Hank doesn't know the answer. Hank, what do you think, Hank? He's wrong. You can already see it. I was five thousand ping pong balls to fill seven forty seven. See, that's bad. I think Hank knows what a seven forty seven is. Yeah. Do you?

No. Big ass playing. He's going to find the answer for us. I got a football question for you. Yes. So do you plan on having Kyle Pitts be a part of your team next year? Yeah, that's an easy one. OK. All right. Next question. I know where you're going. Because I saw you said earlier today, we're not going to comment on whether or not current players will be part of the team next season.

Well, you just did about Kyle Pitts, so I got you. And you know, that's where you're right. What I said was like if you can you can take an educated guess who's going to be on the team, but if somebody gives you an offer, you can't refuse like never say nothing like a horse head in your bed. Maybe. Yeah. OK. OK. What about here's here's a hypothetical offer you can't refuse. How about Montez, Sweat?

Who else? Who else you want to give up for Matt Ryan? Let's say I can't she hung. I can't talk about two first round picks. For Matt Ryan, that would be and Taylor Heinekees. I'm just going to punt this to Terry, just put Terry on the spot. Terry's got to do it. Yeah. Yeah, it's easy for me. I just say, hey, Terry, well, you know, that's a good question for him. I did like so.

So obviously, people are asked about Matt Ryan. We don't. We're not going to ask about that, right? But you did have a quote that you said that's just absolute nonsense. Absolute 100 percent nonsense. It'll it'll never happen is what you said, right? About what? About Matt Ryan and like maybe leaving. Maybe I added the it'll never happen. I don't remember either way. Give me the context when I was I was someone.

Someone was asking you about Matt. Oh, no, there were Chris Mortensen was reporting or someone was reporting. I've never talked to Chris Mortensen. OK. So when you say absolute nonsense, can you maybe throw in a rubbish and a garbage and it's not true? Because I liked how strong you were. It was strong conviction. No, but I think that was in reference to a some rumor.

I can't remember the context. Again, I don't have a photographic memory. I'm not a context guy. Yeah, so let's just pretend. Yeah, it was after a game, I believe. OK. And I don't even remember who asked it, but I don't even remember the context. If there's more, some kind of like. Made up room, I think the context was someone asked, is Matt Ryan going to retire Falcon?

You said that's just absolute nonsense. I don't think that was any fact. Jack, I'm sorry. All right, I have a football question. Looking at your career, starters, defensive, quality control, then move to offense. What like you don't see that very often. A lot of times guys stay on one side of the ball throughout their entire career.

What like what why did that happen? And obviously, I would imagine it's helped a lot. It's helped a lot. Actually, I started as an offensive GA at UNC. And so I was a scouting intern with your Washington commanders. Oh, nice. There's another head coach that we can add to the list. Yeah, I know everybody. So I was there.

And in spring, I was doing like I was at the combine here in 07 just kind of running, grabbing, grabbing players for interviews and doing all that. And I thought I wanted to get in the scouting. And then Joe Gibbs called me in on a Friday before Memorial Memorial Day. And I he's like, hey, look, I had to make a change on the staff. I've got an opening. You know how to break games down your jet. I was like, yes, sir.

And he said, well, we got to open a defensive quality control. We just need a guy to break it down and we'll see where it goes. And so I wasn't going to tell him no when Joe asked me that. So I said, yes, sir. And then I was going down and Charlotte for the for the Cocoal 600. And I was like, what did I just get myself into? Right. And because it had been a miserable experience as a GA. We were we were terrible, just it was like the worst side of it.

We got fired with like four games ago. And I was like, oh, I'll get in the scouting. And then I was on that defensive staff and that 07 season that we made the playoffs with Joe's last year. And I just stayed on defense and I was happy being on defense. And then Mike Munchack switched me over. Really? And so were you were you mad that you had to switch back over to offense? Were you happy? No, I was happy.

I had spent four years, four different coordinators, and it worked out. And Munch is awesome. So he he was like, hey, I, you know, I'd like to get you back over the offensive side. I said, well, I want to coordinate and I love the old line. That's what I played. But right. But more times than not, you're not going to be a coordinator as a line guy. And so the other question I had about your career, which is interesting, is that you survived three different head coaches with the Titans.

That's rare. I feel like guys don't, you know, usually they bring in their own staff. How how did that happen? Like, how were you able to stick around through three different head coaching changes? Well, a little bit was kind of timing and luck. Like, you know, when you're a quality control guy, if you're under contract for another year, if like, and I do the same thing in Atlanta, I kept a guy, Danny Breyer, same thing. He was under contract. He was good. You know, sometimes it's like, hey, you still do the job.

Like you're not in the like, if you're in one of those positions, like quarterback coach or you're the coordinator, like you're probably gone. Right. It just kind of goes with the territory. So I was in those QC roles and I was cheap and I was under contract. So I felt like that probably helped me during the wizard hunt transition. And then I was Mike Malarkey's assistant. So like that was just like a natural. And then Fraves, that one was like, all right, I'm probably,

this is probably in the road for me here. And I met him down at the senior bowl. It kind of kept me around. And then so thankful for that. Yeah. I mean, you obviously have something about you because it is true. Like it's the ability to like adapt to different head coaches on your way up is important, I'd imagine. It is. Yeah, it is. And it teaches you a lot because you've been in a lot of different systems.

You see how people, you know, do things and certainly help me. Yeah. Back to 2007, that defense, that was Greg Williams, right? It was. Dr. Heat wrote the show. We love Dr. Heat. Well, we were a lot of cover, too, that year. Oh, yeah. Sean Taylor, we had Laurent Landry back there. We were loaded on defense.

You were running a lot of it was like the the angel defense. You'd put you drop Sean back way into coverage. I remember that game against Brett Farve. It's like, keep throwing the ball. Yeah, he broke. He broke the interception record. Yeah. Yeah. So we I mean, we love Greg Williams on the show. We just love his intensity here. What's the lobby of the Conrad?

Is he drunk? No. Oh, no, but I saw. We just love how we always dial stuff up, except for that year, I guess. So yeah, we played like Sean and Laurent like 30 yards deep. Yeah, Sean would still come up and that's to make a tackle like one yard. That's no, that's a very cool way to start. Then so obviously you go to the Titans. Mike Vrable comes in. Yeah, we love Mike.

We love him. He's our guy. He's our guy. So right off the bat is he just like trying to jump into practices with the team because I feel at that point he was still like, he's got a lot to prove physically. He wants everybody to know and he values mass on a team. I feel like he collects big people and keeps them around. Like it could be the offensive line. It could be a running back.

It could be whoever. He just likes big people. Was he still working out with the team? I don't remember working out with him, but he's going to do drills with him. Like that's his favorite thing. When I was coaching the Titans, he'd come over to the individual and like he's going to get in the mix. That's his favorite thing to do.

Yeah. And he, yeah, he does. It feels like he does value like tough guys. Like, you know, yeah, he values guys like him. Yeah, right. Exactly. Grind it out. Like, yeah. So is it kind of shocking that Taylor Luana is stuck around for so long? Where is Taylor? I thought he was. Where is it?

Oh, let's just give him shit. Yeah, yeah, like how did your feud end with it, Taylor? Oh, it's still going. It's still going. Yeah, I don't even know why we started a feud because I actually, every time I've hung out with Taylor, I've had a good time, but I just decided I think it was something in Michigan, Wisconsin that we're just like, we're feuding now and now will is my in-between with them.

So yeah, I don't know if it was like a fake feud to get Boston going. Like he kind of, oh, that. Oh, no, can I use your clowns? Yeah, to kind of get Boston. So they copied us. They basically swagger jacked us, stole everything that we've done. Yeah. And then they were like, what us? We didn't do that.

So yeah, that did happen. Yeah. But we'll cops to all that. And we'll, I mean, let's, let's be honest, the football thing's not really working out, so he needs the podcast. Yeah, you know, yeah, no, no. Yes. I noticed that he didn't reach out to you. He would like publicly lobby of rabble, always go at people from like the the Raiders, but I never saw him reach out to you.

Yeah. You know what pissed me off about what Will did and I don't care if it's on air or not. He didn't put me on his mountain rush more. I'm like, well, well, only like one of the few repeat guests on the bus. Hmm. And no, no, no, no, no, no. Rushmore. Yeah. Oh, really? They do that. Of course. It is. Yeah. So I don't know who's at Mount Rushmore first.

But we, we invented the concept of doing Mount Rushmore's and being two funny guys on in a car that drank coffee. Yes. That's our property that we invented. Yeah. Well, they stole it. Who's on the Mount Rushmore of their guests? I don't remember. Let me pull it up. That's crazy. That's fucked up. You've been on and you like you called your dad on it.

I remember that episode. Got to help him out. Yeah. He did the story where your dad, what he won, he won what $27,000 off a $5,000 loan to save the company, to save the world. Actually is what I don't know if you'd save the world, but he saved the world and shipping forever. That's what I'm going to pull this up. I'm okay on there. You're feel the is bad. Is this bad? That's fine. Go ahead.

It's bad. Absolutely not. 27 million ping pong balls in a 747 guy. That was wrong. You said 40,000. I would never draft you. They don't. Yeah, don't shift for brains. Wait, are you a dog or are you a cat? What's that? Are you a dog or a cat? You know, whatever. Good answer. Okay. No, that's a good answer.

It's a dumb question. Cat dog. Yeah. Yeah. Dumb combine question. All right. Yeah, you're pulling it up. We'll see the Mount Rushmore. It's around Mount Rushmore. It's got to be, if I had to guess, it's frayable because they're suckers. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. They don't actually, listen, what Taylor?

I mean, they got like 40. How do you call that Mount Rushmore? Oh, that's so many. And you're not on that one? Yeah. Also, what Taylor and Will have told me primarily about frayable, like he shouldn't be on the Mount Rushmore because he's, they've bashed him a lot. This is all me. Breaking news. Breaking news. So I assume they made that up.

You and frayable probably still have a pretty good relationship. Yeah. Because you just sent them Julio Jones. Yeah. You're just like here, take, yeah. Whatever you need, coach. No, that's not really how it went down. That was my theory at the time. I was like, I think, I think there was a lot of conspiracy.

I think frayble got him installed. Now you're a secret agent for the Titans. That's how I love how dumb the internet is sometimes. Yep, hand up. Like, hey, hey, they sent me to Atlanta. Yeah, we are the internet. Staring at the internet, at the dumb internet. Well, you guys have lived on the few people

that have found ways of monetizing the dumb internet. Most people can't figure it out. That's true. That's true. That's a huge credit to you guys. What does make coach frayble like a great coach? Because he's now getting obviously the credit in one coach of the year. He went and bought a horse.

He bought a horse? Yeah, he bought a horse named, I think, Koi. Yeah. Don't be Koi. It shouldn't be don't be Koi, because that means don't be coach of the year. Right, exactly. And I actually think they should just give you a horse

if you win coach of the year. That's the trophy. That would be sick. Here's your horse. Yes. But what does make him like, what is different about him than other guys you've worked with? They're all different.

But the one thing most good coaches have been around, and this is what I've tried to do, just because you've become a head coach, don't try to emulate somebody else. Like, he's one of the most authentic people. You guys know him. Same guy every day. That's all you care.

If somebody's a jerk, I'd be a jerk every day. If somebody, you just don't want the up and down guy. I don't know if there's anybody like this in your podcast. I don't know if you deal with anybody like that at Barstool. But he's consistent. He's going to tell you whatever's on his mind, and you appreciate that about him. He's smart as hell.

I really enjoyed working with him. And he's one of those things. Like, he's not going to compromise like his standard. Right. And he's funny as hell. It must have been fun coaching on that Titans team, because he had Derek Henry. Did you ever just want to give Derek Henry the ball every play

on one drive, and just be like, this is your drive, Derek? Yeah. We did that a few times. That was what was comical during the interview process. Like, people come up with these, like, think they're going to get hit. There's really a hard hitting, like, got you questions. And send an interview.

And it's like, hey, like, they're director of analytics, whatever. Some souped up titles. Like, you know you ran the ball 67% on first down. I'm like, hey, you know we had Derek Henry? Yeah, right. Wasn't that hard. Like, hand the ball to Derek, and a few times,

he stiff-armed seven people, and went 99 yards. So pretty easy play call. Yeah. And now you've got another great player, Kordero Patterson. We love him. We love guys like that, where it's like him and Debo, what they're able to do.

Because you have to be so in lockstep with everything that's going on on the team. You have to know everything about multiple positions. And he clearly loves playing football, too. So you've got, what do you call him? What's your name for him? Does he have a special, like, position designation? No, we don't want anything like, that's the problem.

I'm not like a guru, like some of these other guys in the dressing. I mean, he played multiple spots for us. So that's hard. I mean, we did have a flash package to let him know whether he was going to a certain position or not. That was his self-imposed nickname.

Like, CP's, he's done a big self-promotion, which I don't blame him, but he's in a big self-promotion mode. He is actually the only guest we've ever had on the show that the chains that he was wearing were so loud that, like, you could hear them on the interview. Really? Yeah, he had so many. I think they were hitting the microphone.

The jewelry he had. It was a while ago. Yeah, it was our whole office in New York. I remember, I think Big Cat asked him about this, because Ty Montgomery was just starting to get carries for the Packers. He was like, do you think that you should start getting the ball more, like, handoffs on office?

And he was like, yes. And then, eventually, that's exactly what happened. I think Debo calls himself a wideback, which is a cool term for us. That's pretty cool. Yeah, I know. I mean, that with the 747 question, this isn't going very well.

It's going great. It's not very impressive. Has he asked you if he can play defense? Like, just put him at every position. We did. Really? He played free safety. He was a jump ball guy in the Hail Mary play.

Damn, he can do everything. Yeah. He can do everything. What was the hardest thing, year one, transition, being a head coach that you didn't see coming? Like, the one thing you're like, I really thought this was going to be a little different? Well, no, it's just like, it's just your time during the day.

Like, you try to, like, you get in a rhythm, obviously, in the week, and you just try not to let these five minute talks become 30 minutes, because there's puts and then also, you look down at 10 o'clock, and there's a lot of things you need to get done. He just, for people listening right now, Arthur just pointed to his watch when he said that part. Did I?

I like your quote that you said about, I think it was about Jalen Mayfield. It was before he was going to get matched up against Fletcher Cox this year. And you said, everybody has to get baptized at some point. Oh, yeah. That's a good one. That's a good football guy quote.

Have you been baptized yet? Metaphorically. Sure, like, in what sense? Football? Yeah, yeah, what was your football baptization? Probably my freshman year. When I got to North Carolina, we had Julius Peppers and a guy named Ryan Sims.

So they were the second six pick of the draft. First guy, one of the first guys I saw was Pep. And I'm looking there, I'm like, you know, I tried to gain a bunch of weight, because I'm coming out of high school, and I'm like, oh, I got to get big. Didn't put on good weight. I was like 290.

And I look at this guy, I'm like, he's 290. Looks nothing like me. I'm like, holy crap, like, we're not in the same stratosphere. And then Ryan Sims, I think the first time I passed that, you know, I'm sitting here like high school Harry, grab both my hands and just toss me. I'm like, holy, I better get my stuff together. Yeah, baptized.

So that was probably that as a player, as a coach. I mean, there's a million things you're going through. I think the best thing is some of the jobs that you do. And I'll give Greg credit. Like, he made me call personnel in on defense. That got me ready to be a play caller, because that's an underrated job in the NFL. And you have to call the offense personnel in for the deco

coordinator to know if you're going to match or what the situation is. So that'd be the other one. So your dad created FedEx. Is it annoying? Like, people probably bring it up a lot. It's probably annoying to have to deal with questions or people judging you.

We're not going to do that. I just had a question about something unrelated to your dad creating FedEx. What is your thoughts? What are your thoughts on the estate tax? Too high, too low? I don't have it there. We ask every guest this question.

It's literally the first thing we ask. Yeah, I know. No, I appreciate the question. I love doing that. I appreciate the question. Oh, that's a good one. I appreciate the question. Yeah, great question.

There's a lot of good fillers right there. Yeah, I don't have an opinion. It does probably have to suck a little bit, like, to the people think that you've talked about it. Like, people think, like, oh, he's just got his job, because his dad's like, you can't be in the NFL for a decade plus. And everyone would be like, oh, his dad owns FedEx.

Let's just keep giving him new jobs. Sure. Yeah, like, yeah. I think a couple of things. My favorite thing is when people are like, hey, you play golf, right? I'm like, no, I don't play golf. Why do you think I play golf?

You know, that was one of my favorite, or like, you get these, like, askin' on questions, thinking, like, you've summered someplace. I'm like, no. Like, my dad was an old Marine. He kind of pushed my brother to play football, so we weren't, like, coddled soft spoil kids, and kind of how he is, you know?

And he's the same guy. He's like the most, like, basically. He has, like, three suits. He has, like, a navy suit, a dark gray suit, and he wears the same stuff, like, over, over, in rotation. Like, it's about as simple as I get, and it doesn't work every day. Right.

That's who he is. Right. It's comical. So you've never had, like, the itch to join the family business of logistics? Well, I wouldn't really call it a family business anymore. That's a little bit, like, a former mom-and-pop shop. Yeah, I don't know.

Yeah, I just, like I said, like, Football's way more fun. Yeah, absolutely. Who, so in your family, who's Shiv, and who's, like, Roman, and who's Connor, just to save for your siblings? Yeah, that's a good thing. I've probably grown up in Memphis, that we weren't one of those, like,

there's no douchebags in my family. Right. So. But if he had to do, like, a Roman. Let me throw a couple of my brother-in-law's under the bus. Those are easy targets. They've been eyeing for it? Yeah, they've been eyeing for the crowd.

Let's throw a couple of my brother-in-law. I won't name them. Yeah. But you know who you are. Yeah, you know who you are. Yeah, you know who you are. You're listening. You know who you are.

Yeah. That's, I mean, you probably didn't expect that question. That was actually a very good deflection. Yeah. Like, you're keeping the close people close. Yes. And you've identified the ones that are expendable. Correct.

If you had to. Yeah, correct. Brother-in-law's are easily. The in-laws are easily. Have you, did you have to work, like, when you were becoming a head coach, did you sit down and say, OK, how can I answer these ridiculous, stupid questions? Did you, like, train yourself on that?

Or is that just, like, experience? I think it helps, like, just watching sports my whole life. You see some of the dumb things people do over and over again. And I'm like, all right, when I get in that spot, like, you're not going to get in trouble for what you don't say. Yeah. So that's, here, I'm going to call it raves out on one. Because before the first time I went on that amateur busing

with the boys' podcast, no offense, Taylor. Amateur boys. I love, you know, doing that. No offense, but. No offense. Offense. OK. Offense.

And they asked me the same question as raves, but, hey, would I? Cut your dick. Yeah. Yeah. And I just don't answer. But raves gave me a big talk, like, hey, make sure you don't say anything stupid, like, blah, blah, blah.

Like cutting your dick off. And then ironically, he goes on two weeks after. Now he's going to probably say it's intentional, but. Oh, no. He was, he definitely. Did you ask him about that? No, he cut you. He basically was like, I'm going to go on later,

and I'm going to give a better interview because I got, I got the dick cutting off measure thing I'm going to do. That's why I told you to chill out. Yeah. He was like, don't say anything. He may have. That's bullshit. No, I think it's better.

I think it's better. Let him, let him have that one. So let's set it straight. You, you would cut your dick off for a Super Bowl? I'm not going to answer that. Would you cut Mike Vrabel's dick off for a Super Bowl? Not going to answer that. I would.

That's your opinion. Easy. Yeah, I would definitely prepare a Super Bowl. I'd cut his dick off. I feel like that's like a fast track to become a coach of the year is just say, hey, I would cut my dick off. Yeah. Everybody's got their own, you know, ways of doing things.

Here's another question that you're definitely not going to answer. When you're on the sidelines, it's a beautiful stadium. Mercedes Benz. Yeah. I love it. Do you ever look up at the roof and be like, that looks like a butthole? Good question. Thank you.

Can everybody's get different opinions? Yeah. I respect everybody's opinions. You're really good at this. Damn it. You're really good at this. I got to ask you a story about your early days. Yeah.

And out the Mack schools. OK. Is that really how you got your grassroots? Wait, what? At the Mack schools. Did you hang out at the Mack schools? Yeah, you're like going to go into Mack games, Mack champion, Mack school.

I thought this was like a D's nuts joke. No. I'm just trying to hit it down the fairway. We didn't sleep at all last night. Like I was like, I'm about to get D's nuts. Yeah, I love. I mean, I'm a gambler. I love Tuesday night, Wednesday night,

Maction the best. Go to some games like that. I mean, there's no one in the crowd like a lot of the schools you can take like Northern Illinois, you can tailgate and then go into the game and then half time, go back and tailgate and then go back. That's awesome. Yeah.

And I mean, listen, good quarterbacks, good coaches. They all come out of the Mack. And that's how that's how I heard about y'all's podcast. We had a Titan named Tim Simmich, a big tall, tall dude, Titan. He had Northern Illinois and he came in. This is he had been 16 or whatever. Yeah.

And he had one of those Maction search. I'm like, where'd you get that? The lights, camera, Maction. Yeah. Holy shit. And he's watched how I started listening to the podcast, got me through a lot of long nights like breaking film down or going through stuff.

That's awesome. Yeah, those. But he told me used to come out there and hang out the bars. Yep. Yeah. Hand out shirts. We go to Detroit for the Mack championship game. There's a very famous gift of me yelling figure it out,

which is I think maybe his Northern Illinois team, they lost in the championship game. Bowling Green, I want to say, they were big time. It was Jordan Lynch's team. They're big time favorites. I lost so much money that night and I was very upset. And actually, thankfully, Hank was under 21 at that time. So he couldn't go to the Blackjack tables with me after.

But I lost. No, you. Did you take Hank to the bars? No, he said no. He'd never commit a crime ever. OK. Guys, unless it's going to jail for Tom Brady, which he did do. That's hilarious, though.

Yeah. That's awesome. So that's how I heard about you guys. The Mack is your grassroots campaign. And then you told Will and Taylor, and then they copied us. That's what it seems like. Yeah, that's great. So I'm in.

Yeah. Lights, camera, action. Actually, I'm going to say Dennis Kelly told him about it. OK. Have you guys ever had Dennis on the show? No, we have not. Yeah. Dennis was another guy.

OK. We got to figure out who the first listener of part of my take was. Yeah. And then. And then they spread it. And then, yeah, like the coronavirus. Yeah, our coaching tree.

Yeah. I got a little bit of coaching advice for you. You can check and believe it. You take it. Have you considered incorporating more downfield laterals? No. Design downfield laterals.

Because I think that there's a big opportunity for head coaches. Everyone's scared of turnovers, and I get it. Turnovers can cost you. But if you can figure out a way to do a good design lateral downfield. To fake the fumble. Well, it's like the hook and ladder. But you use it in different parts of the game.

Different parts of the field where it's not just. We taught hook and ladder here. It might have been one of my worst play calls. Really? Yeah, it was at the end of the game. OK. But it was like, it was bad. Do you ever find yourself, do you ever get too cute with it?

Sometimes, yeah. And you can feel that way. When was one of those times? Because that's one of our favorite, like the chiefs, when they get too cute with it on the goal line. It's like, just play football. Don't do all the misdirection and stuff. They got too cute with it in the FC Championship game.

I'm not going to criticize myself. You've got plenty of play calls you can criticize me for. But sometimes it works. That's when you know you feel like you're on a heater. Going back to that 19 season, we had the jump pass. Derek, I mean, that was stirred down. I mean, you're an idiot if that doesn't work. But again, we thought we were playing with house money.

That's what I loved about Vraves, is he and I would talk about everything, and we'd go through it. And it was refreshing. Because a lot of coaches, they get really conservative, and they're like, whatever. And I mean, speaking of Dennis Kelly, he caught a touchdown in the FC Championship game. I mean, you look like a moron if those things don't work.

Do you ever feel like you're in the zone, play calling like everything I'm doing is work? It's like when I'm at the craps table. Yeah, yeah. That's got to be an unbelievable feeling. You play craps? Yes, I'm more of a blackjack guy. More of a blackjack.

Yeah, yeah. You play craps? I've learned how to play craps probably five times, but it's always when I'm drunk. And then I wake up the next day, and I don't remember how to play craps anymore. So I have the memory somewhere. I'm waiting for Elon Musk to figure out that whole brain

chip thing. But it looks like a lot of fun. Yeah, I wouldn't. I mean, sometimes as a play caller, though, you do feel like you're in rhythm. Yeah, right. Like, it just feels like, oh, everything you touch is just working.

Yeah, and then when it doesn't, it's like. That's got to suck. Yeah, that's got to suck. What about setting up your coaching staff? I've always wondered about coaches, if they have a guy whose only job is to be really good at watching football on TV, to tell them what plays to challenge and what not to.

Everybody's got a guy now that goes up there. And some of them become obvious, that you know that it's not worth challenging. But yeah, I think that's a pretty standard issue now. That's the one thing about the NFL. It's like, once somebody has a good idea, everybody copies it. Yeah. That's always when you're fighting the NFL, is group think.

Somebody has a good idea. It works for some team, and they think, oh, that's a secret ingredient. It's like an organ in football. Everybody's like, I want to be the organ of the South. I'll be the organ of the East. It's like, well, you better get good players and recruit well and have a good program.

And not your 10 helmets aren't going to be the difference. Right. What about punting? Has your stance on punting evolved over the years? Have you found yourself to be more in favor of going forward or more conservative? I look at it kind of what happened in baseball. And I'll steal this from Theo Epstein.

Like in that book, after he talked about this in that book, they talked about the Cubs way. I don't know if you've read that D-read books. I do not read books. We had Theo Epstein on the show, though. I've listened to several books. Great. Was he?

Great. He didn't get it, though. We did. Well, we'll do it with you. OK, we'll do it with you, but go ahead. Keep saying. What it basically said, everybody was hiring the same guys at MIT or whatever, Harvard, Yale, wherever,

where everybody kind of became like flat, the analytics. So it was a little bit like it became, I think even Mike Tomlin said this. At some point, it became obvious, like your team that just get ready to play fourth and two or fourth and one. Right. So there's no like, it's not like, hey, you really risked it there.

It's like, if you don't go from fourth to one, it's like, that's what everybody's doing. Right. Get it. So it's not like, to me, those aren't the hard decisions anymore. It's become like the norm. Right.

Right. And you see it all over the league. Yeah. So we had Theo on. And I love Theo, but we did do, we used to do an old bit where we would pretend to read mean tweets, and we would just say what they were wearing at the time. Like, Arthur Smith's a fucking idiot.

I can't believe he's wearing this shirt, and he thinks it's good. Isn't his dad worth $5 billion like that? And he didn't realize that we were making it up as we went. So we kind of owned Theo Epstein, who's like the smartest guy ever. Sometimes you'd be too smart. Yeah.

Yeah, that's true. You don't realize the joke. Yeah. What happens if you're a football coach and you're too smart? Is that when you get too cute with it? Yeah. I think there's a correlation between being too cute and too smart.

Probably. That's a good stat. All right, I have one last question. It's the rowback question. Use code TAKE on rowback.com for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com code TAKE. They make cue zips, hoodies for golf guys like yourself. It's great gear.

My last question is, how many light posts are there in the island of Manhattan? Street lights. Yeah, I don't care. This is going to be whether we could ping home. It's like a ping pong. Yeah, no, it is. So what do you think?

Well, if you're going to rely on the light post question around Manhattan, you should want me to throw a number out there. Yeah. Let me ask you this. How many ones are energy efficient? No, you're a big environmental guy, right? I am a huge, huge environmental guy.

So you're breaking down how many are energy efficient or the one just overall? Overall. And on the island of Manhattan? On the island of Manhattan. Look it up, Hank. Look it up. I didn't get to guess.

He was going to guess 300,000. He literally was about to say 300,000. I was buying time to think of like. 300,000. You were counting up in your head, 300,000. What about this other standard interview question? What would you say is your biggest weakness? Ooh.

I always love those questions. Yeah, I'm just kind of like steel. I was doing with Kenny Powers, like tireless work ethic. Yeah. Your biggest weakness is you think that, no, I'm actually, you know what? I'm not going to say what I was about to say. I was going to say something very mean,

and I'm not going to say it. It wouldn't matter. I'll write it down, and then you can read it and react. All right. You have to ask one last question. OK, are you happy that Sean Payton's gone? I like Sean. So I don't think you're happy.

I mean, their defense is still going to be a pain. But Sean's a great coach. So I don't know. It's like when they asked me, I got that question like 500 times yesterday. Sorry. So it's a tough division. It's always going to be.

So it's a subjective opinion. Do I really think Will and Taylor stole your concept? That credit to me, because I like you and you're a listener, so I didn't do that. No, I appreciate it. Yeah, that was nice of me. I will. I mean, I understand your angst towards those guys.

I'll be the best, too. I was making it up. Now I'm going to say it. No. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I appreciate that. Taylor Heinecke and Terry McLaurin from Matt Ryan. Again, I can't talk about it.

Here's I got a legit question. So how do you guys think you guys? How do you keep it fresh? You've been doing six years. Yeah, so I would say the the number one thing is sports. Like sports is sports are the greatest reality show on earth. So like if we didn't have sports to talk about and new sports, new storylines, it would be very hard.

I don't know how people keep it fresh when they like they just like riff off nothing. You know what I mean? Like comedians were exceptional. I think sports is what like every night is something different. You ever get tired if you go out, the people bother you and then like they expect you to be funny. No, I wouldn't say I wouldn't say that.

We were just talking to Duncan Robinson a couple of days ago from the heat and he kind of asked us about that. And I think the reality is it's a good problem to have if somebody is like coming up to you and want to shake your hand or say hey and then take a picture because what we're doing is somehow resonating with their life. In a way, either they're using us as a quick escape or they feel a connection to us like they're part of the show. And so I just always remind myself like this is much better than nobody caring at all.

Yeah, it's like that's a thing in sports. Like you get like people like they get so upset. It's like, dude, like you're lucky people care. Yeah, you wouldn't make the money you make. Yeah. Like it's insane when people act like a victim like, dude, you know what you signed up for? If you don't want that, go coach high school ball.

Yeah, yeah. So when you're when you're coaching a player, is it true? Like I've always heard it's when they stop yelling at you that you've got a problem. It's like anything you don't want anybody become apathetic. Yeah, that's the thing. I think most people would fear is like like whether you're in the entertainment or sports world, like you don't want the people to speak, whatever. Which sibling of yours do you think your dad's become apathetic towards?

Um, let me see. Who can I get the problem? Yeah, the problem is like somebody will hear it one day. And then it'll start a whole thing, media storm. And then somebody's going to waste our somebody's going to get but hurt. Yeah, right. Exactly. Yeah, it's a good point. I can answer that.

Are you going to be any more movies? Maybe I've always wanted to be an extra in like a bar fight scene. Oh, that'd be sick. OK, like actually throwing punches or getting punched? Like just like a roadhouse. Like yeah, you ever seen roadhouse greatest movie ever? Yeah, all time. All time. American pain don't hurt, right? Yeah.

Or yeah, there's so many good one liners. Where did where did Dalton get his degree from? And what was the degree? Great question. I have no idea why you philosophy. My favorite is the medical thing when I read this, like medical report. Yeah, like seven gunshot wounds, like 55 staples. Yeah. Yeah.

My favorite is the guy when when he gets in the fight and the guy grabs him from behind, he says, I fuck. I fuck guys like you in prison. Like, I don't know what that who's. What is it? What would you say if you got to find something to say to? I'd probably say I would probably be like, oh, yeah, try me. And I'd bend over.

Yeah, I just say like, I don't think you're man enough. Yeah, yeah, I know you can't handle this. All right, Arthur Smith. Thank you so much. Appreciate it, man. Arthur Smith was brought to you by Roback. The guys over at Roback have been sending us their performance polos, hoodies and Q zips for a while.

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This is March. This is March. Hank. This is bad. This is a bad one. Oh. So as you guys know, we documented it, you know, as a PMTV episode. You guys were stars of it. My project, my passion project, Two Man Tuesdays took nine years to make, produce, film, edit, premiere. Put it out on Twitter.

Everyone loved it. Pinned it because I was so proud of it. And I think I had like 800,000 views. No big deal. No big deal. Yeah, just casual. It's doing a job. Yeah, it felt good. You know, you work on something that hard over that long of a period

and to see, you know, the results pay off. It's like a Sistine Chapel. Exactly. So the other night I was super lazy and I'm sure you guys do this sometimes where you're just on your phone, but you're trying to do everything with one hand like you're trying to, you know, tweet type, whatever. And it was, this was two or three days ago. That's how one uses a phone. And I know, but no, usually if I'm actually actively doing it, I use both hands.

Right. But if you're, I was lying on my couch. The difference between one hand is casual, two hands is like, you know, you're getting. It's like lazy. Like I do it. I'm like, I should be using two hands, but I'm just like lazy. Yes. And I was on my couch looking up and I went to my Twitter profile and I was like, oh, it's this tweet is still pinned like it's March. I'm just going to unpin it. For whatever reason, when you click the unpin, there's three dots.

You click unpin and the first thing right under it is delete. And before I could even think about it, like I clicked delete accidentally. Jesus Christ. Hang. And and then before, and then I was sitting there like I have my heart drop. I was just sitting there like I can't, I can't undo this. How, how did you do this? You had to confirm that you deleted it. No, no, it just deletes it.

It just deletes it. So now we have to wait for February 22, 2022. Yeah. Ok, well well, wait, I'm gonna check. Can you put that in your calendar, please? Thank you. 22222222. Yes. February 22, 2222 22222222. two thousand two hundred and twenty two if I'm not around no put in your

calendar don't say that you don't know future anything could happen you're the healthiest of all of us tweet deck that schedule you can schedule the tweet schedule it to tweet on 222 yeah and just I mean yes hey just put in your will yeah yeah that'll that can help you know my family for years to come right we always have this tweet there's money in the banana stand there's money in the two man Friday oh okay that sucks yeah that's too bad so what about you know what I am it that I don't know if it's ever gonna be yeah it's brutal I was I well again I was I was being lazy I was

kind of tired and then all of a sudden I was wide awake sitting up like oh my god what about I thought about contacting Twitter but I don't I don't know what that would help okay so what if it's February 22nd you're trying to make compromises for something that's like you can't do it's not the same if the system will burn down PFT your point earlier the Sistine Chapel burned down yeah you could rebuild it however you want to don't make jokes while it's on fire but it wouldn't get mad at you it wouldn't be the Sistine Chapel damn Hank I'm sorry that's actually brutal I know in a way it's kind of beautiful it's

I've thought about spins only like that but it's really not it's just tragic it's no it's tragic I think it's beautiful like if you now everybody you can't just spread it around now it's a moment in time that we were all a part of and those that know will know those that don't they don't get it tragic yeah it's tough and yeah if you if you work at Twitter and maybe you can help me out and me out yeah I'm not giving up hope yet yeah okay all right video is very Christ-like in a way yeah and as its father you sacrificed it well the two man's dead we killed the two man but maybe this is my place he might be how do people know if he's dead

video doesn't know it's literally dead because you killed it but where prove it you just said it on this podcast that's now in everyone's ear but that if you don't have video proof what do you have well we actually have it on YouTube as well so we have it we you said it on YouTube as well true we have video proof I guess wait what day did you was this yesterday I was like two or three days ago so it was the two-man's revenge was it a Tuesday the two man came back he got your ass that's amazing now that is perfect I'm sorry that's perfect it's haunting me yeah all right well I don't know how we follow that fire

fest yeah I mean what I'm gonna say pales in comparison to that my landlord jacked up my rent by like 1500 bucks a month so now I gotta look for a new place yeah welcome to New York and I hit him back you've had some brutal yeah experiences no no because every time I talk about I never talk about my apartment unless it's a firefest basically yeah and so but there's been a lot there have been a few and elevator the elevator was an issue water falling through your ceiling the mouse oh and I brought what there's not open no no I'm not with you I'm saying beautiful how is it send me send me some pictures of it

but I might be looking for a new spot soon and I thought I would not move I don't want I'm considering just paying the increase because moving is such a pain in the dick you know you got to do is you just got it you got to do like a back of the napkin calculation of like well if you pay movers and also you got to buy new stuff and you got to do the first month to pause and all that stuff yep you could you could you can definitely twist the logic around like it's very similar to when you know appropriate for right now like when March comes around and and you get cold and March madness and you're like well

you know I didn't go out and I didn't buy him bought new shoes recently and you know you can you can just figure out a way to mentally get around yeah like we're gonna be watching all these games at at bars yeah on barstools dime yeah we're saving money on yeah there you go we're already there yeah already flying there back and forth yeah I'm already ours yeah but come in we'll come in and eat like Billy went last Sunday when we recorded at 3 o'clock and Billy texted the group was like yo anyone trying to eat I think anybody want to get down on a big order yeah it's like well we're literally doing it in between lunch and

dinner I don't know I'm thinking part of me is like the principle of it cuz I like a good deal yeah you know like I've got that deal so just me so I hit him back and I was like hey let's do the pro-rated thing like you did last time you tried to jack up the rent on me and they they just bent over for me let me have my way so I figured they'd be a pushover again and I listed I was like well I've got a mouse that I tried to kill marijuana that keeps showing up I've got a ceiling yeah that leaks all the time and then I've got an elevator that my dead dog couldn't even use when it was trying to go outside to use the

bathroom really tugged on their heartstrings and they were like nope the pandemics over is what they told me oh so the price is what they pulled the covid card on me just trying to get like a hundred bucks off I yeah that would do it I'll be like hey can I just get yeah a hundred discount that you want or no you should just be like let me get a hundred bucks off the monthly rent and I'll pay a one-time deposit of $1,200 yeah because it is true you're like mentally you just want you just want to be able to be like all right I walked away from this feeling okay it's just on principle that I would like to win this

negotiation somehow but I might move I might not I don't know you're probably right I've been pushing for not moving because I do like my apartment a lot it's pretty nice moving despite all the issues moving is just trash yeah my my firefest is a pre-firefest I'm I'm running hot and gambling right now and it's it's scary because I know it's it's coming down I'm gonna I'm gonna fall on my face very soon also my son is now into Mickey Mouse and that fucking thing watching Mickey Mouse every night is it's tough I don't even know that they were doing Mickey Mouse cartoons anymore oh yeah and there's just so many

episodes it's m-i-c-k-e-y-m-o-u-s-e it's anything with a song that's repetitive we'll just drive you insane yeah and we had like a one week stretch where we watched Moana and that movie is awesome I don't know if anyone's seen Moana with the rock it's a legitimately incredible movie now I'm at the point good music to yeah now I'm at the point where it's like every night it's like what do you want to watch like you know we watch a little something before we go we go up to bed and he's just like I'm like how about Moana and he's like nah I'm Mickey Mouse like fuck man seriously so that sucks can you try to get him into

Trolls the Troll soundtrack is a banger no I don't think so it really is yeah I need I need to get I need a respite from Mickey Mouse it's killing me slowly land before time land before times good think those hold up dinosaur propaganda also like I'm finding out very quickly that like trying to think what I watch when I was a kid life for me is just oh no life for me is just spending money on my kids for them to like change their interests a week later I have conservatively speaking bought him like he has like 60 different cars from the cars franchise doesn't care about it anymore so my my fucking house is a

parking lot uh Billy so uh I like to run with my dog uh and I've trained my dog what's your dog's name whitey so I train my dog it's like whitey Ford it's like oh I thought it was whitey like like white whitey power like the white Kirk cousins yeah anyway so we were running and uh Billy's the white Kirk cousins yeah you are you are the white Kirk cousins so um we were running and uh in the beginning of the run uh like it's more warm up stuff like high knees butt kicks while he like sniffs everything just get the stretches going and then it's a two mile run and then we hit a stride and we get going and uh we're pretty cool about it keep a good pace leash or no leash

leash wrapped there's a leash like around the body to keep him leashed but it's like he's got a little length on it so it's like we're basically running without a leash so then when we hit the last half a quarter half mile of the run but the last half of quarter of the half mile yeah half to quarter of the mile okay he just starts going hard as fuck because he knows he's going home soon and uh that's like a literal quarter mile sprint and uh I just straight up you can't stop because he's running so fast and like you can't pull up on him so you're just huffing huffing it's like getting on one of those super fast treadmills to like test your high speed and uh yeah so then I got to the house and just started projectile

vomiting so I was so gassed and my favorite neighborhood homeless guy was there to once again say yo dude you cool yeah so you think you're just really yeah yeah exactly for many he's just he's just always there whenever at your work it's always there I really like someone that's somebody had a video of you just just projectile puking on your run yeah yeah you should why didn't you take your phone out because I was puking uh rats uh that's a good firefest though I encourage you for running with your dog white cutting season yes uh yet is cutting season Jake finish this up yeah so in a few weeks we'll be down in New Orleans for the final four and what I did was I went to a website to try to apply for media credentials

and I missed the deadline oh jake so I emailed the guy saying like like I'm a real journalist like please is there any way we can make this happen waiting to hear back on the green light but I'm nervous come on if you were a real journalist you would have applied earlier yeah I didn't know the journal who's giving it yeah yeah all right we never said anything bad about the ncba I just said the bellarmine thing is a bad decision so the only thing I've ever said bad about there's gotta be there's gotta be pretty significant that is pretty significant there's gotta be uh uh awl's listening right now who works with the ncba who can help us get all the boys credentials yeah come on why not the thing about media credentials is you have to apply like

two months ahead of the event it's crazy yeah I remember when I learned the hard way I used to go to the Super Bowl in a former life and when I do that I would have to apply in like November and I would miss it every single time so I just have to sneak in yeah but it's it's smart because it's essentially like can we just get all the fake journalists out of the way by just missing this but I'm real and I deserve to be there you are real no need a mistake hey don't don't wave your hand like Jake's real we're real too so let us all in we'll give you great coverage and Jake agrees like if you if we can't get credentialed you're not going to get credentialed what if they hear about this the stunt you pulled at the NFL one oh oh that was Billy's fault I also think

that was legal because on Friday you're wearing a rudder or fans there so I don't know if I needed to go around the curtain to me wait but you went through a curtain and you snuck in I don't know if I've actually snuck in I pushed him through the curtain okay so now should we do some sort of like hostage situation like should we threaten them if they don't let if they don't credential or darling Jake at least yeah I just would love to be to cover my first ever final four oh okay you know what that's a great let's not yeah let's make that happen someone I've been around except the final someone listening right now let's make a boy's dream come true all right let's get this guy some fucking credentials please please and say please we're begging I apologize for being late

just give me a chance yeah Jake is you know Jake he will not like we've Jake has been credentialed things and we've tried to get him to ask questions that are very very bad he will not do it right because I want to keep getting credentialed at these things right you gotta tug on their heart straight like it's almost a make-a-wish thing like we have we have our darling Jake is is currently in recovery from nose spray addiction no it's been cold turkey off the aphrod for how many months Jake it's been about a year I know what happened a few months ago yeah you're good but he's clean you've been off aphrod for two months and we want to reward him he's our special boy yeah I would love pity to be credentialed in New Orleans next month yeah and

if you don't get it he's gonna die so just give him the credentials just threaten Jake be like you're gonna get back on the nose spray if you don't get in he's gonna die from all the stress John Cena back on please please allow me to do this would be awesome yeah make a wish all right let's do oh bubby you got one yeah I do my car it uh no okay no this might be worse oh no yeah it's gonna be two cars worse than the two man I could be it could be oh our friend our friend John Rothstein this is gonna be one for him to kind of relates to the tourney my favorite place to watch it bar coastal is closing what yeah I got intel about it oh my god does he know I don't know if he knows is this breaking news I have some sources about it I don't know if the information though

I'm not sure how much more time do we have this out can we believe this out and break it to him on Sunday yeah we can just cut it yeah and then tell him on Sunday yeah yeah that'll be better okay all right yeah it's a chance he doesn't know he's still locked in all these games doesn't know this will be yeah I want to watch him crumble okay it is on Twitter oh but all right let's keep it in fucking all right we'll watch him crumble still you know we can just tell him because he keeps asking us to go like to different events with him at bar coastal let's just tell him uh September opening weekend of NFL we're in it's a date we're gonna go to bar coastal John we're in it's gonna be incredible that's tragic it is I gotta go one they've got good wings it's closing

like this week oh pretty sure so you probably won't go he never went carries he never had a cup of coffee I never went to bar coastal it's fair all right numbers two six and twenty two 17 25 no no 71 bar coastal 76 and 54 out the epitome of brutality 11 second time great fruit size spiders are going to be invading the east coast flying parachutes they're called Joro spiders and if you look it up on youtube there's a bunch of really funny rednecks shooting them with guns and it's very funny coley please post my blog about the Georgians shooting the spiders love you guys do it coley well today's end my birthday to follow you shine

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