Pardon My Take - Calvin Johnson, Mt Rushmore of Cartoon Characters To Party With and NBA Free Agency

Episode Date: August 4, 2021

Football is back and so are training camp fights (00:02:44 - 00:07:50). We talk NBA Free agency and Olympics (00:07:50 - 00:17:32). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Andrew Cuomo is not a creep because he released a collage of touching people (00:17:32 - 00:30:36). NFL Hall of Famer Calvin Johnson joins the show to talk about his career, playing for the Lions, Matt Stafford, Jim Caldwell and tons more (00:30:36 - 00:58:43). Mt Rushmore of cartoon characters you want to get fucked up with and guys on chicksYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Yeah, it's Hank just before this, and I never fuck with you. Uh, Hall Fiend Week continues. Talking too fast there. Thank you, Hank. Hall Fiend Week continues. Calvin Johnson on the show. We also have, uh, Mount Rushmore of cartoon characters we want to get fucked up with. We have guys on chicks.

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Not only that, but there's football is back because we now have training camp fights. Training camp fights are back. The Giants all had like, it sounded like the mouse, the palace in New York today. We never got video of it, but now we're getting all these reports of fights. People, there was a player on the Panthers who got waved because he went head hunting in practice. Wait, wait, wait, but on the Giants fight, Daniel Jones was at the bottom of the pile. Which some people are saying that's awesome.

Daniel Jones, he's a fighter. He's shown that he can be more than just a Brooks Brothers ride. But I actually think the other way around. I say that I don't think that the New York Giants are tough enough if their quarterback is thinking that he's even able to swing on him. He might have just been caught under like, I would imagine Daniel Jones just looking the other direction and almost like a cartoon and just ate him up. So like one of the giant like balls of dust that's hanging around and they got him on

the blind side. Then he fumbled. Side note. Tumbleweed are actually very dangerous. We hit a tumbleweed, Hank and I hit a tumbleweed when we were driving through New Mexico with the bus and it was like, it was a fucking big. It's like a tree. They're pretty big, but you just, if you have a car, you just hit it.

Yeah, but they're like, they'll fuck your car up a little bit. Yeah, you gotta watch out. The armadillos. Yeah. Those are the ones you gotta watch out for. All right. So yeah, football is back. It was awesome to see.

We have some NBA, should we talk some NBA free agency? Because the balls are back. What about Campbell? Yeah. Dan Campbell. Oh yeah. Dan Campbell, man, Campbell. He's out of the entire ranks of every.

He's the most football guy to ever coach in the NFL, I think he's, he's starting to blur the line where he's no longer really a football guy. He's just kind of a football. Yeah. What do you say? Yeah. So, so there was a couple quotes he had, but Kyle Menke tweeted out this morning that Dan Campbell is so fired up for the first day of pads that he just went straight into

a story about fighting on the first day of pads when he was a rookie, all in his opening statement. That's not what I'm looking for. That was the point of the story. So he definitely just started talking remedy, like his brain sort of reminiscing about getting in fights. Yeah. And then he had to do the like, the dad thing of like, but do as I say, not as I do.

Yeah. But also wink, wink, please do what exactly I did. Yes. And then he had some other comments that he made. Some of the stuff is getting blown like a little bit out of proportion where it's like, oh man, I can't believe that Dan Campbell says that he wants a physical football team. Oh yeah. Yeah.

I can't believe Dan Campbell likes coffee. Yeah. No duh. I want to see these guys compete. I want to see these guys get to the point where it is an almost all out brawl, but there isn't one. If you don't push it almost to that point, you really won't get where you need to get in my opinion in this league to be competitive at the highest level.

I love it. All correct. Take it to the edge. From Dan Campbell. Take it to the edge. And he did have a great quote. He's so excited about the first day of pads. Now we find out who can deliver some punishment and who can take some punishment.

Oh, we're going to find out. This is a year of how football guys will do in alpha football guys, I should say, in the NFL because Dan Campbell and Joe Judge, Joe Judge is dealing with it as well because part of the Giants scrum or fight or melee, whatever you want to call it. They did laps, a hundred yard laps, and then he didn't like how everyone did it. So then he made everyone do push-ups. And I feel like that's not going to go over well with a bunch of millionaire athletes. They went over really well and remember the Titans.

Yeah. Got everybody to buy in together. Yes. Great movie. We're going to say, hey, PFT watched it for the first time in his life. Yeah. Yeah. And he's referenced it a few times.

Well, this is the first time. Well, in conversation. Well, Hank asked me about it earlier. But it will be the same. Yeah. It will definitely happen the same. It will happen the same. I don't know.

I think that at some point we're going to get a coach that just doesn't practice. We're going to get a coach eventually who's like, I'm going to get the fastest players. Yeah. And the guys that I think are the best on tape. And then we're just going to study and not ever go out and practice and we'll see how that works. That was a former player. That was a Todd Haley.

NBA. Remember Todd Haley got mad at Hugh Jackson. It was like, oh, sometimes we have to let them practice. Yeah. And he's like, no, we want to save him. We want to save him. We want to save him. That was a meeting of the minds.

Yeah. Hugh Jackson and Todd Haley talking football. And then Hugh Jackson being like, listen, we can do things your way, but I'm the head coach. So listen, I went, I went 0 and 16. I think I know what I'm doing. Listen, when I get fired from this year job, Mike Silver will write something nice about me.

And he'll be the bad guy. Yep. So we can do this the easy way or the hard way. How do you want to be remembered in the annals of history? All right. Let's talk some free agency though, NBA. The Bulls are back. They have gotten very aggressive, a crew show, Lonzo Ball, and now DeMar DeRos and

all in the Bulls next year. I'm actually legitimately excited. Caruso is, are you a little jealous that I get to root for Caruso? Not at all because I think that by going to the Bulls, the value of his NFT on the Lakers goes up. I don't think I'll be making any more of this. Good point. Good point.

The heat, the heat culture, Kyle Lowry. And then Chris Paul got. PJ Tucker, right? Oh yeah. PJ Tucker as well. And then Chris Paul got like $120 million as a 37 year old. So credit to him. I think his career earnings are right above $400 million, not $440 million as inaccurately

reported by Darren Ravel. I, you know, yeah, Steven Shea got on top of that. Yeah. Absolutely nailed him. Just arguing online. That was a sight to be heard. But yeah. Steven Shea was right.

Yeah. No, he was right. Hashtag Shea was right. Shea was absolutely right. But I don't know. It's weird. Like at the end of the day, the NBA obviously still comes down to like, do you have one of the top five players in the league?

But it is fun to see. Like I've complained a lot about the Garpacks situation and now the new Bulls front office has basically burnt that to the ground as fast as possible. So they deserve a lot of credit. I also think that I'm going to have to maybe sneaky route for the Lakers a little bit next year. Uh-oh. Mellow.

Yeah. I'm rooting for Mellow and I'm also rooting for the, the takes to start flying because when you have that many guys on team, it's very, it's no longer LeBron James's team. Correct. I think once they get to the playoffs, it's Mellow time, baby. Yeah. Mellow and Westbrook are going to be like LeBron, sit back. We got this bro.

Yep. Andre Drummond, recurring guest, great recurring guest on the Sixers. So you hate him now, Hank? Yeah. What are the, what are the Celtics on anything? Uh, nothing. The Celtics priority of just reading this, Mark Murphy just tweeted this, according to a league source is to retain a salary structure that makes it possible to sign a major player

when he comes available most likely next summer. That's smart. So this is literally, you know, verbal, verbal meme is I'm Squidward and everyone else is like signing major players and their teams are getting better and the Celtics are just staying put and maybe signing Isaiah Thomas, which I'd be happy about. But when you, when he was their star player, they got swept in the Eastern Conference finals. So it's not like he's going to be the guy to take us to the championship. Right.

But I love him. He's a great, you know, great player. It was awesome. But you guys, you guys almost had Westbrook, Mellow, Dwight Howard, who else did you almost have? Drummond. Kevin Durant a few years ago before we went to the Warriors. Yeah.

Just keep your head in there. Lonzo. I would have loved to have. Dude, I love Law. I'm fucking in the big ball. I've been a ball. I've been a ball boy for, for years. It is crazy.

I saw a few people be like, well, now you got to deal with LeVar Ball. What? LeVar Ball is like not even, he doesn't exist anymore. It disappeared. Yeah. Something weird happened anymore. There needs to be a serial on what happened to him because I think that like when he got to LA, I'm pretty sure that LeBron was like, if your dad starts talking, I'm going to trade

you immediately. Yes. And I'm going to trade you anyway. Yeah. No, I think he did that, uh, like high school basketball league and it was like an absolute disaster. That's, that's kind of where I was following. And then all of a sudden there was like reports of it getting sued or like things didn't go

the way it was supposed to. And then he kind of disappeared from the limelight. Well, and also like he, Lonzo is like 23, 24, like, I think he has a family of his own. I think LeVar is out now. You know, he's, he's, he's in the, in the sidelines. Another thing that I saw today was that apparently the 76ers are asking for a hall of picks that are similar to what the Nets dealt for, was it, it was KG and Paul Pierce. That's what they want for Ben Simmons, but no one's, well, he's going to be on the sixers.

No one's going to give him anything credit to Ben Simmons. He must listen to this show because he actually has taken some pictures at the gym. So good for him. He had a shirt off, somewhat of a thirst trap, but he was at the gym, didn't see a video of him shooting a basketball, but it looked like he was going to shoot a basketball. Do you remember a couple of years ago when he was, he was at a beach somewhere and he had a fish on the end of a fishing pole. And he took the bubble and he took it off.

Oh, that's the bubble. Yeah. He took the fish off the end of the hook and then tried to throw it in the ocean and he missed the fish. Yes. Yes. Yes. That is Benson. Yeah. They're going to get, someone's got to make an offer at some point for him. Right. I mean, now the Bulls have a super team, so don't want them anymore. But I did at one point talk myself into them. Yeah. The Blazers might do it.

The Bulls have a super team of just names that you recognize. That's that's just as good as a starting five of like, I know all of these guys. That's good. If you can just remember all the names throughout the season. And Caruso, I'm fucking so pumped for that. Dude, Caruso's fans were really bummed out, which makes it a great signing. Yeah. Caruso is awesome. Caruso's legitimately, I think, like now a top five player in the East.

And Weed's legal in Illinois. Weed. Oh, is it? Yeah. Well, that's good. So he's good. He's good. Just don't don't go back to Texas. Yeah. We actually, our good friend, Tom Frinelli, tweeted that at him and he liked it. Yeah. He liked like saying he liked it on Twitter, being like, oh, sick. Yeah. I'll be good when I told him, switch to 3G, he smashed the like on it.

Yeah. That was your treat. Hank. And those Hanks tweet. Hank, do you have your college football preview almost ready? Yeah. Big 10s coming out next week, I think. OK. The SEC, you know, there's a lot more things to factor in there because of everything going on. Big guy, you want me to tell you? But I'll have a lot of comprehensive right up here soon enough.

Oh, it is. OK. All right. Just wondering. I could tell him I could double check. No, he follows me. OK. Yeah. I'm excited for your previews, Hank. Thank you. That's going to be sick. Yeah. All right. Anything else we got before we get to Hot Sea Cool Throne and then the interviews and then Mount Rushmore and then guys on chicks?

Oh, the Olympics are still going on. They are. Did you watch the 400 meter hurdles? Oh, that was an awesome race. Mando Duplantis, gold medal, pole vaulting, prove me right. Yeah. OK. If you can do it, I can do it. Simone Biles, our queen, bronze back. Yep. She didn't even get her bronze.

Don't, Hank, Hank, don't. I've noticed. No, not. I didn't. She's our queen. I thought she was the goat. She's our goat. Not my goat. Tied for most medals in US gymnast history, which shouldn't count because like bronze shouldn't count as a medal.

Like if you get like Michael Phelps has like 23 golds and like 27 medals total, you shouldn't be like, I'm better than Michael Phelps. You got 28 bronze. Agreed. But she's our queen. I've noticed that the track is extremely fast. It's also it's been wet.

It's been it's been wet. But the wet almost makes it faster. It makes it slip. I don't know what's going on, but the track and field, I think that they knew that they had to produce some world records. Yes. In order to get some buzz going. Yes. I might be really dumb for suggesting this,

but if there's no crowd at all, does that mean that there's more oxygen for the people to breathe on the track? Yeah, probably this is like my theory about wind in empty NFL stadiums. Yeah. So they're sucking all the oxygen out. Yeah. Normally, but when there's no fans there, it's a richer, richer environment for especially distance runners. What would breathe more efficiently?

What do we got for altitude in Tokyo? I think it's pretty low to the ground. I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it's sea level. Your altitude is at sea level. One hundred and thirty one feet. That's pretty high. According to Google.

Wait, one hundred thirty one. Yeah. Yeah. Damn, that's average average average. That's high. What are you saying? What are you shaking your head for? That's like basically you get up to one. We might we might be higher than that right now.

How high are we right now? We're thirty three feet. Ninety eight foot right now is as in like at the office. Like I think we're on a hill on the on the floor that we're on. Exactly. Fifty five feet. Thirty three versus one hundred and thirty one. Wow. That's a big difference. Pretty big.

I, Billy, I'm going to buy you Chick-fil-A after this because I do think it's fucked up and ordered it when you want it. No, like right now we're three stories up or whatever and it's higher. Billy, I'm going to get your Chick-fil-A because it's bullshit. You, everyone knows you love Chick-fil-A. There's not a big deal. You were mad. You came in in war mode.

Yeah. You did. You saw that I had Chick-fil-A and you were like what? Yeah. Everybody knows that that Billy is like the second biggest Chick-fil-A family office besides big T Chick-fil-A. All right, let's do a hot seat cool throne. Hot seat cool throne is brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Coors Light is the best beer out there.

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OK, good. That was a test. Did you order me anything? I ordered Liam something. Did you order me anything? No, because you didn't ask me. Well, you didn't want it. Yes, sure. That was also a test.

My hot seat is John Axford. OK, you guys all know John, the ax man. Yeah, Mr. Ford. He is a pitcher on the Blue Jays that today was traded to the Brewers for one single dollar. What dollar? So that's just so insulting, so insulting, tough for the ego. You're a professional athlete, but, you know, you're being told

that your value is a literal one dollar. Wow, wow, John Staxford. Damn. So yeah, that's tough. I feel like if like, why not? I would probably just retire. Yeah, make it a hundred dollars. Don't make it one dollar. How do you negotiate that in the offseason?

Yeah, that's like the do you see? I think it was Miles Plumlee, maybe one of the Plumlee's got traded and he got traded with like the 40th pick for like the 60th pick. Yeah, it was brutal. So they're giving him up to go down. Yeah, right, right, right, right. Yeah, that's tough. And then my cool throne is Brendan Frazier.

Oh, the actor got cast in Quentin Tarantino's new movie. Hell, yeah. Lights, lights, Karen Barsell, they do their like fake Photoshop thing. And they're obviously big Brendan Frazier people. So when I saw it on Instagram, I was like, this is a, you know, a classic prank by Jeff D in Ken Jack. And then I, you know, looked it up on Deadline and it's true. And Trilbaulans.

Yeah. Fuck, yes. Rip. Yeah, we should have him on one last time. I agree. He wasn't that bad. He wasn't bad at all. So he's gone forever. No, not yet. Not yet.

Trilbaulans still has two weeks left off. All right, so we should get him on three. We're going to do it. Get Trilbaulans back. Maybe start Crit Week. Baby names. I miss you, Trill. Baby names.

Was that what we did with him? Yeah. Yeah. You're semi. Shit, you're semi. We might have, we might have to run it back. Okay. Brent Fraser is the greatest actor, maybe ever. It's like him in Nick Cage.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm a standing gentleman. All right, PFT, your hot seat. My hot seat is Jimmy Garoppolo. Big J, big Jimmy. Trilands got his first reps at 49ers camp today. And on the third rep, he threw like a 50 yard dime as he was rolling out to his left,

jumping in the air, throwing across his body. That's what we call the, what, the Zach Wilson throw? Yeah. Yeah. So he completed it against a live defense. And all the 49ers beat writers just immediately queened themselves. Of course.

And then John Lynch went on Jimmy, or went on Adam Schefter's podcast, said that Jimmy is playing his best football since he's been here, which sounds to me like a general manager pumping a guy up before they send him somewhere else. Interesting. Maybe to a place like Indianapolis.

Interesting. But oh yeah, we should talk about that real quick. Not only is Carson Wentz going to get surgery, but so is Quentin Nelson now. Yeah, it's a foot thing going on out there. They're dealing with some severe foot injury issues in Indianapolis. Sorry, Billy, if we took your hot seat cool throne.

Yeah, I tend to agree with what you just said. But yeah, so even though Kyle Shanahan going into the season is saying like he can't envision a scenario where Jimmy Garoppolo would not be starting, or no, he said, I can't envision a scenario where Trilands would be the starting quarterback week one. And this is the same guy that could very easily imagine killing his quarterback.

Like we don't know who's going to be alive tomorrow. All facts. All facts. All right. And then my cool throne is Andrew Cuomo. Ah, that was mine. Your cool throne? Damn.

Because right when the entire world thought that they had this guy dead to rights, the old nipple rings Casanova of New York put out the greatest apology video of all time. We're just showing him sexually harassing other people. Yeah, he did. Everyone's like, hey, Andrew Cuomo, stop touching everyone. He's like, look, I touch everyone.

And we're like, wait, what? We know. Yeah, that was the whole point. We know. Not to touch everyone. We know that. I also like that he threw in. I've never seen this move.

People will always be like, oh, yeah, that's like saying like the old, oh, I have a black friend. He literally did. I touched black people first. Yeah. He did it first. He's like, look, I'm not only not a toucher, a sexual assaulter.

I'm not racist either. If I were a sexual assaulter, I wouldn't be racist. Yeah, so you can't say it's not double jeopardy. Yeah, pick one or the other. You can also say that in those pictures he was saying, wait, how are you going to say that I touch people against their consent? I touch some of my best friends against their consent

all the time. Yeah. It's like, yeah, thank you, Mr. Cuomo. We get it. How about the idea of like, OK, so they accuse you of something. And your first thought is, I know I have just the ticket. Someone go find all the pictures because there's a lot of them of me touching people.

Like that's so many pictures that he got. Yeah. And it's just, it was probably very easy. I would imagine they were working till like two in the morning and Cuomo was like, nope, all right, cut random female number six, cut little child number two. Like he probably, that thing was probably 100 minutes long. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. The amount of pictures that you have to start, probably has their own hashtag on Instagram, like hashtag Cuomo touched me. And it was weird. What a fucking weirdo. He should have just gone with the Italian explanation. Just be like, I'm Italian.

Handsy. We touch everybody. Yeah. I'm sorry. My brother's Fredo. My nana taught me how to do this. He actually kind of did that with his, he actually did kind of say that.

Well, that's great. Another masterful piece of PR by the expert himself. He started with his parents being like, this is how my parents and I always like touched each other. Literally all I had to say was like, this is how we do it in the old country. Yeah. What a fucking, I mean, he just put the evidence out there.

If you look back at his history to every single time that he does something bad, he just like, he'll like legalize weed. Yeah. So he's just going to, it's going to be the purge in New York city for the next six months after what came out today. Just get everyone on, yeah, thinking about something else.

All right. So that was my cool throne as well. My hot seat is the US women's soccer team because they lost and we think also didn't know because I just don't think about this stuff constantly. Didn't know that they were hated by some people on Twitter. Yeah. Because I tweeted about like, oh, we suck at soccer now.

And there were a lot of people who were like, serves them right. I was like, for what? And then I guess I just missed a lot of the stuff. Yeah. So it's people that spend a ton of time online have very strong opinions. Either the US women's national team

is like the perfect embodiment of everything that is female in America. Right. Or they are literally Satan and working to destroy. I just, I was just joking because I joke about soccer and no one should care about soccer that much. Here's my analysis is our women's team's golden generation is coming to an end.

And our men's team golden generation has just begun. I always love the golden generation discussion when it relates. It's like one team at a time can have a golden generation. Belgium had theirs. They're still going. They're still going. A little bit.

They've really won a lot. So it's a good thing they were anointed golden generation. France has one now. Portugal was one that had their golden generation in the early 2000s. They've won every international tournament ever. So now it's our turn. The USA's golden generation is just getting started.

Hell yeah, we are. All right, Jake, your hot seat cool throne. Hot seat is Twitter fleets. They're gone. Good. They lasted less than a year. It never used them. Dumbest thing ever.

I used them occasionally and I haven't for like two months. Never used it. Used it one time the first time and then never used it again. Yeah, so dumb. You know, they still have like the fleets version on Instagram right now. And they, well, they've got the stories. Stories.

And then they still use those. Then they also have the fleets version on Facebook, which is like Facebook stories. But there is no bigger indication of pre-crime than if somebody that you follow on Facebook is actively updating their Facebook stories. Yeah, yeah. And then a cool throne is animals on the field.

We had a cat on a loose Yankee stadium. Anyone, everyone can rally together about an animal on the field. Agreed. Like everyone just loves it. Doesn't matter what's happening in the game. If it's a blowout, if it's close. True.

Everyone loves it. It's a fun distraction from the Yankees being a COVID disaster too. Yeah. And trading for Anthony Rizzo and not getting into the playoffs. They're like three games out of the wild card. Was Kevin Harlan on the call? No, but he usually is.

I hope for Anthony's sake they do, because I love Anthony Rizzo. But I'm just going to say it right now. He doesn't deserve to be with those bumps. All right. We'll see. I'm bitter. I'm very bitter.

Oh, by the way, the breakup between the Cubs and the Cubs and the three guys that got traded is getting ugly. So they're doing like a he said, he said, we offered him a shitload of money. And they're like, no, none of you offered anything. So it's going to be bad. And the Celtics almost had him. Yeah.

Anthony Rizzo, yeah. Billy, your hot seat cool throw. My hot seat is airplane travelers. We had two viral videos recently. One was just your standard airplane fight over recline seat. The second one, there was a guy who allegedly got really boozed up on the plane, took his shirt off,

started going nuts, assaulted two flight attendants, and then ended up in the classic duct tape to the seat. It was a pretty crazy video if you check it out. He was screaming like my parents have $2 million. That's not, like that's a lot of money. But it's also not like, I feel like if you're trying to get out of jail for free, your parents have to have like $50 million.

I think that's fucking you money on frontier airs. But it's not fucking you money if you're on Delta. Yeah, I mean, again, it's a lot of money, but it's also like that doesn't, I don't think $2 million is where you go around nosing your thumb. And it's not even your money, it's your parents' money. Right, so also it's important to note that they arrested the guy after they landed,

and then they suspended the flight attendants that duct taped him, which I hope it's with pay because that would be the best reward of your life if you worked for frontier airlines as a flight attendant and they told you to stay home for two months while they still paid you. That would be incredible. I hope that's what they're doing to reward

because that kid deserved to get duct taped to the seat. And your cool throne. My cool throne was US soccer wing, the concav cup, but my second cool throne is the plague. Turns out there's a bunch of chipmunks around Lake Tahoe that all have the plague shot down parts of the lake. That's bad. That's not good.

So what is the plague, Billy? It is actually a parasitical infection that goes from fleas to rodents to humans at some point. So it's the source of the black death. Yeah, so the rats and rodents that got blamed for the black death probably got the worst deal of all time because they weren't the ones that were responsible was fleas that were on a bunch of other stuff.

Everyone thought it was rats. So you just need to get the rats anti-flee stuff? Dude, I saw a rat that was dead on the sidewalk that was like, it looked like he had just gotten concussed. And he was just dead. Fencing reflex? Yeah, it was bad. Speaking of dead animals, should we talk about Larry?

Not dead? Well, he's not dead. That was a scary moment yesterday, though. Yeah, Frank just killed Larry for about two minutes. He just said, rest in peace, Larry the Goldfish. He's Hulkacaniac, yeah. All right, let's get to Calvin Johnson Hall of Famer. Before we get to Calvin Johnson,

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all loan subject to underwriting approval, www.nmlsconsumeraccess.org. Ooh. Love you guys. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is NFL Hall of Famer. As of this upcoming weekend, Calvin Johnson from the Detroit Lions.

Calvin, thank you for joining us. Your big weekend is coming up. First of all, congrats. I mean, that's, we saw the video we've had David Baker on. I'd have to imagine, even though you kind of knew it was coming, it had to still be like a moment like holy shit. This is incredible.

It was sure, man. When he knocked on the door, I had no idea it was coming. You never knew it. At some point I'd get in there, but you know, to get it in the first baller, you know, it's hell of a honor. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you had an amazing career. Some people, myself included, would say that you're,

I think you're the best wide receiver to ever play the game. Have you thought about that? Have you taken the time to think about what you were able to accomplish in the years that you were playing and kind of figure out for yourself how that stacks up against everybody else?

I appreciate it. I can just say like, when I came in, I was going to kind of take some of the best attributes of the guys that I watched before me play and just put it all into one package. That's really all I wanted to do. And just make it all around complete receiver and feel like I was able to accomplish that.

So as one of the greatest receivers of all time, I have to ask you, do you know where to catch is? You would think not, right? I mean, goodness gracious, I feel like I've had like three of those instances that's happened over my career, but that main one was at Chicago. Yeah, that was highway rivalry right there.

Yeah. Oh man. I was thinking about that. I thought it was kind of messed up that they called it the Calvin Johnson rule after the fact because they ended up changing the rule that would have made that catch a touchdown. And then if anything, if they call something the Calvin Johnson rule,

it should be kind of like the other way around. But now they just name it after you and everybody else gets to have a touchdown, but you're very obvious reception in the end zone still didn't count. No, right? I was like, hey, you can throw back and go back and throw that on the stat sheet.

I'm on mine. That's all good. Yeah, yeah. So your speech coming up on Saturday night, or it might be Sunday, because I know there's spring. Sunday. Yeah, you know that you only have eight minutes.

David Baker told us that they're playing people off this year. Do you have your speech down? Are you ready to roll with it? Yeah, I'm good to go. You know, it came up the first time I did is like 10 minutes and I had to cut two minutes off of these. Tough to squeeze all your football life into eight minutes.

They wanted it six, but they said they'll give us up to eight. It's gonna be tough. I feel like I'm gonna leave people out, but I'm gonna do the best I can. So your entire football life, what would you say was the year that you realized like, oh, this is something I'm gonna be really, really good at?

Oh, you talking about going back to like, maybe college, like, you know, when I'm in high school, you're still learning, you know, you don't know when you go to college. You don't know what's out in front of you. But when I got thrown into fire, literally threw me into fire on my first day of training in camp at Georgia Tech.

And, you know, I don't think it was the first day, but that second game I played, you know, against Clemson, I had like three tugs and, you know, big game, hundreds of something yards, a nationally televised show. I knew at that point right there. I'm like, okay, we got some, we got some potential here. Yeah.

That's gotta be a pretty, pretty sick feeling to be like, okay, this is a little different. I can do this. Now your speech, obviously, I mean, are you going to mention the Lions? I don't know. There's people in the organization you're going to think I'd assume,

but it's, it's a little bit of a touchy subject. Are you, like, how are you going to navigate that portion of the speech? I was talking to Brad Gallow here in Detroit a little while ago. I told him, my mom told me when I was a kid, if you ain't got nothing good to say, don't say it at all. Okay.

I'm gonna stick by that. And I will represent, you know, definitely got some teammates and coaches that, you know, so much respect for that play with there in Detroit. So now I look forward to, at the end of the day, just really, you know, trying to, you know, thank all those people in eight minutes.

Okay. So speaking of your teammates, will you be thanking our good friend, Tony Schaeffler? Cause I think you should. Tony, man, cool cat, man. One of the cool girls we play with, one of the most interesting cats to play with. Great tight end as well. Yes.

If you, if you talk to him, tell him I said hello. Okay. All right. But you got to thank him. I need you to thank him on your speech. Just throw him in there. There's got to be a portion of your speech where you can toss a name in there. Yeah. There is.

Okay. All right. Perfect. Thank you. That's all I ask. Have you, when you were posing for the bus that they were making, were you trying to do like a certain particular face? Were you conscious of the fact that the way that my face is right now is going to be frozen in time forever inside that hallway?

Yeah, man. Ben Hammond was my guy that was sculpting me. Let me show you right here. I got a little, a nice little picture when he was at the house here. Oh, nice. Of you getting sculpted? Yeah. He's actually came to the house to sculpt me.

And yeah, I was very concerned. Cause I was like, dang, like what's my face going to look but I don't want to be too serious. I don't want to be just smiling. I just wanted to be like a focus, you know, focus look. So we'll see how it looks when it comes out. But last time I saw it, it actually looked pretty dang good. Is it like, I don't really know how you'd put it into words

but we'll never be in a spot where it's like, you know something like this, like a hall of fame of a major sport of anything this to this level. Has it hit you yet that like you will in a, for lack of a better term, like live on forever. Like you are, people will go to Canton. They'll walk through. I've been there.

You know, you see the bus and there's Calvin Johnson. Like has that, has that kind, have you been able to like grasp that mentally? You know, I've been in Canton one time. It's a coast force to this like, you know, old tent, 2010 or something like that. We were playing like Cleveland and I remember sitting there thinking, man, man, this got to be a hell of a feeling

just to walk through here, like, you know, hair raising just to see, just to see, you know, your statue sitting amongst all the greats that you, that you watched before you, man. I think that after the day after when I go back through there after it's all said and done and it's up there, you know I'll probably overcome with emotion, honestly. Like kind of like when David Becker knocked on my door

that day. Yeah, yeah. This is going to be a tough question. I'm going to warn you before I ask it that you might not, I'll let you feel how you want to answer it in the moment, but it's, it's a, it's a doozy. If I come to your door right now and I have a check for $40 million in my hand, I say, Calvin,

I'd like you to play for the Kansas city chiefs for one season, $40 million guaranteed. What about playing DB coach? I'll plant, let me know what you need me to do. I would, you're going to be coach whatever. I'll do it all. You're going to be playing, you'll play X receiver. Okay.

Oh, that's hilarious. $40 million. Do you do it? That's easy, man. I'm out of retirement. They paying $40 million in four years. Nah, man. In fun, I mean, sure.

I mean, that's a hell of an offer. I mean, hell, play with a Super Bowl champ. Heck yeah. That's cool. But I don't think my body would agree with me though. Yeah. At what point, yeah. At what point though, were you like,

all right, I'm officially, officially, cause I would, you, you retired a little early. You know, Barry Sanders was the same way where you still had something left, I would assume. So like a year or two after, if someone had called you would have been like, okay, I could probably do this. At what point were you like, all right, I'm officially retired.

I probably can't do this. Like just enough time has passed. Nah, I would have to say, I mean, it wasn't long after I finished playing. I knew it. I mean, like I said, I knew I was done but the year before I was done, you know. That last year I played,

I didn't really want to be out there happy time. The body was just hurting so much. It just wasn't fun to be out there. So, but after I got done playing, like, I was doing, say I'm doing my camps and stuff like that during the off season, not the off season, but just like my foundation's camps. Like I said, I'm literally out there

showing these kids how to do a drill. And the next morning I feel like I played a full out football game. And that's just because I don't have any, I don't have anything more elasticity in my ankles and stuff like that. So any little impact, you know, it's just inflammation off the,

all right, you know, right off the stat. Just put it like that. So, you know, like I say, the pain that comes with that, those things just, you can't get to your regular routine. You can't do your regular practice routine. You know, quality of life is suffering at that point because you're walking around in pain every day.

Just, this is not fun. So that's why the change came. Yeah. So that's definitely a great answer and an answer. I don't think most fans realize because I definitely, I'm like Calvin Johnson could go out and get 200 yards, like on the first week of the NFL season. I mean, we think like that.

Yeah. There's nothing that you can say to me that would actually change my mind. Yeah. Yeah. It was nice when you said about the pain and everything, but come on. You're a superhero. I understand why it's physically not possible, but once I see you wearing the uniform,

and you got like the visor and it's like, okay, he's going to get 250 and two touchdowns today. That's Calvin Johnson. I see myself in that uniform. I might think I could do it too until I take that first cut. Yeah. So real quick, let's talk about your company primitive,

which you're wearing right now. So you spoke openly after your retirement that you use cannabis to help with the pain. A lot of people are becoming a lot more enlightened to that these days, Michigan, obviously. So what are you doing with your company that's helping athletes or people in general with cannabis use and also just trying

to recover from injuries? Yeah. I mean, we formed primitive. I mean, start with the name primitive. Call it primitive because it's the original medicine. It's the most primitive form of medicine. I mean, there's other plant medicines out there, but I just take it for that. It's the early form of medicine

that obviously over the last couple of hundred years, we haven't been able to use because of restrictions or what not put in place. But we're here to literally lift the stigma off of this thing to show the healing powers of the plant. And that's what gets taken away from it when you hear about cannabis or marijuana or just weed. We're just trying to elevate everything about the plant

from the vernacular to just the professionalism in the industry. And how do we do it? Like I say, by highlighting the healing powers of the plant and being innovative in the industry. Now, obviously, yes, we want to grow great cannabis. We grow good cannabis, really good cannabis. But we want to create innovative products,

new things that will bring people to the table. It's like, okay, I'm able to see the healing powers of this and this ain't just smoking weed. Yeah, we want to have smoke weed and have fun. But at the same time, we want to find a way to help people's quality of life. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. I like that.

I think it's about time that people come around and realize that there's healthier ways of dealing with pain than taking opiates or taking certain prescriptions. If you can manage it using things like cannabis, it's way safer. I don't think that in the history of modern civilization, there's been an overdose on cannabis.

You can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the worst that happens is you just fall asleep for a long time and you get a little bit confused. That's about it, right? Funny thing, I actually had a friend from the state trooper in Georgia. He's over 30 years, all my years,

I've never seen anybody really getting anything, any kind of big, bad trouble, acid or anything like that from cannabis. There's always prescription pills and all. Yeah. Yeah. And what's been going on the last 25, 30 years in America with prescription pills has been very tough to watch. And so I feel like anything that can get somebody

off of that type of medication and using something that's more manageable, something that you can do realistically for a longer period of time, I think is a really great cause. So that's cool that you're doing that. I mean, speaking of opioids there, I mean, it was easy to get access,

all that stuff when I got to B. That's why they had a hard stance, probably half of it in my career, 11, 12 somewhere in there, where they really was like, okay, we got to stop the access that our guys have to all these opioids because by that time it had been a pandemic

in the whole United States. And I mean, obviously I saw that and my whole thing going to the league was trying to have a holistic way of being things derived of the earth, going to my body is derived of the earth. Yes. I've always wondered about that

with the, the turtle shots that you hear about. And you can only get a certain amount of those per year. What does that feel like if you get a pain blocking shot like that? Does it feel actively, do you feel better overall? Or is it just like a numb feeling? You ever played that game, you feel great.

That sharp pain that you're getting every time you took that jab or that breakdown, you know, it numb, it kind of, you know, you go all over that when you take the tour at all. You know, so you have to push through the pain and be able to play. But yeah, over time taking that stuff too much, you have to not go for your system.

I think it's really bad for your kidneys, I think. Yeah. Can we talk real quick about Matt Stafford? So he is everyone's favorite story this off season. It's the idea that Sean McVeigh is going to unleash Matt Stafford, he's playing for the Rams. In your mind, like is Matt Stafford Hall of Fame caliber? You are a Hall of Famer yourself, you played with him.

I've always said that his numbers will be there. Do you think that at the end of his career, he'll have a decent, you know, chance or case to make it to Ken? You know, it all depends. How much longer does Matthew intend to play? And if he gets that ring out, he's out there. You know, if he goes out there and, you know,

lights it up and has consecutive, when talking about like three, four or five consecutive winning seasons, even if you don't want a Super Bowl, I think he has a chance, do have the cannon like I haven't seen. I mean, I got three broken fingers, you know, to say that, but he, the accuracy I've seen that this guy display, obviously he has the gun.

Everybody knows that. I think that him being somewhere where he wants to be out there and in Cali, he's spent a lot of time out there in his all seasons. He's where you want to be at. So I think that his play is going to reflect that hopefully. So once he stays healthy, I get a guy shot. Yeah. And he's a tough guy.

Like I remember that clip, that game when he dislocated his shoulder, I think, and came back and separated his shoulder and came back in and had the win on touchdown. Yeah. I mean, he's a tough, tough player. I noticed, I also noticed you called him Matthew. Does that, would he be upset if you heard us calling him Matt? You know, I forget. I think, um, back in the day, I don't know, way back.

You know, my wife was like, I don't know if Matthew likes being called Matt. I'm like, really? I've been calling him Matt ever since I met him. He never say nothing. I'm like, sorry, whatever. Your name is Matthew. Something you call him by name.

I call him staff, really. I really want him to be on the state staff. Yeah. Was there, um, is there like a noticeable difference between catching a ball from Matt Stafford and catching a ball from any of the other guys that you played with? 100%. 100%. Obviously the accuracy, but I mean, he's going to put it on your chest.

Matthew's going to hit you with it. And, you know, obviously nobody else had the kind of velocity that Matthew threw with. You know, I told Matthew, I tell him to relax because he just see him. If you see him in practice, he's standing, always stands with his right fish, his clinch, like, like as hard as you can.

I'm like, dude, that's why you don't damn ball so hard that you've got to relax your hands. So if you ever see him in LA and you probably spot him with his hands, with his fist balled up. Yeah. Do you think, um, playing your entire career with the Lions, do you think the refs have it out for the Lions? Man, I had many times about that.

I was sitting here like, hey, the college just didn't make any sense and nothing happened there. And I don't know how many times I've said that, but I don't know. I don't want to say that and be wrong, but I mean, everybody felt like that Detroit. Yeah. It's hard not to feel like that. Yeah. I mean, there's some very famous moments.

There's some prime time games with like, would that, would you guys say that in the locker room? Like, what the fuck is going on? Why, why is it? One of the worst calls, one of the worst calls was the Thanksgiving game. We played against the Texans. And the running bag was his name, I forget,

but he ran, he literally fell on his like butt, got up and ran to the end zone. He kept running to play everybody on our team. Like the play is over. He fell now and the referees, they said, we couldn't review the play and that it stood as a touchdown, even though they were wrong. And we lost the game because of it on Thanksgiving.

So yeah, they got it out for us. Sometimes it wasn't just bad calls. It was, you were also like victims of the most obscure parts of the rule book constantly. You know, like rules that you never hear about growing up playing football, but somehow like they, it's like the refs go, they check under the hood, then they flip to the very back of the rule book,

put their glasses on, they're like, here, this one right here, this is what they did wrong on this one. It's, it's- You haven't used this one in a while. Yeah, exactly. Exactly, they use you as a test case scenario for a lot of them.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think it is, there are definitely moments where you're like, I think the Lions might be sneaky cursed here because there's some things that happen. You're like, this makes no sense whatsoever. Yeah, it's down. Everybody uses more courage. There's definitely some bad energy, I guess, there.

To put it like, we're not gonna say anything that you don't- Yeah. You don't have anything nice to say, yeah. We're gonna be all be nice. Yeah. I was looking back over your career stats. You had 329 yards in a game. What the hell?

329 yards, like at that point, did you feel like football was easy to you? You know what, man, when Matthew and I were on the same page, man, we could feel it. And you just, yeah, it got easy, you know, because we knew what we were gonna do. We practiced it all week. And I'm telling you, we practice, man.

We practice like crazy. Like we're running miles a day, but we're at the same time, it's good and muscle memory. So that when it gets to game time, everything's transferable. Anything you do in practice still happens on the game field. So, I mean, yes. After the first 250 yards, did you expect, hey, maybe they'll start double teaming me or triple?

Like they're gonna stop me. I can't possibly keep going. I knew that we knew going to that game at Brandon Carr, he's real physical. We knew he was gonna play some one-on-one. So we knew that we were gonna have a chance to get off. But after that first slam, that took like to the other side of the field, man.

I knew we knew we were going for 200 at that point, but never would have thought it would have been three. Yeah. I'm watching this play right now. It's actually titled, Worst Call in NFL Thanksgiving History. It's a really bad call. I forgot about it.

Yes, exactly. His elbow and his knee were down, and they weren't able to review it. And he just stood up and ran like 70 yards for the touchdown. By the referees who just did the right thing, just like, hey, we screwed up, this is the call. Now nobody would have been like, oh, okay, yeah, you right. Yeah, yeah, that was insane.

How did you manage that, like figuring out when you were gonna eat on Thanksgiving? I'm always curious when I see the players out there. I'm always stuffing my face. I'm usually three glasses of Pinot Grigio deep by that point. But how do you, do you just not eat Thanksgiving on Thanksgiving? You know, yeah, I can't do, like, you just don't know, man.

Like, in that game, that clock, like in the fourth quarter, you know, you're like, boy, I can't wait to get home, get some of that dressing, get some of that fried turkey. I was like, boy, you just don't know some of the greens. I look forward to Thanksgiving milk with my dad or my family's here, they'll cook it up, man.

Yeah, I always just work that. Yeah. So one of your coaches, Jim Caldwell, did he ever like smile or even break character? Cause we, you know, I thought there was, he did a press conference once where he basically had to like put to bed the rumors that he was dead. And I just like, his face, something about it,

it just was always the same, no matter what. Did you guys ever say like, hey man, just cause everyone who played for him loves him. And he seems like a really nice guy, but he really just had no facial expressions whatsoever. That's so funny. Cause we, I see it differently. Cause we were, we had a little old leadership council

where we met with them and, you know, we got to see them laugh and stuff. So that's so funny. Cause I guess it's just the different perspectives. You know, I'm like, I'm used to seeing them laugh and Kiki, you know, he was a man that never cursed. You know, I'm trying to think like that. Ever hear him curse.

I don't know if I might have heard him say it like, like shit one time, but I don't, he was not a man to curse. So, but on the sideline on game day, I know that facial talking about a picture right now. Yes. He was, he was a high character guy, man. And he had all of us playing as if like, you know,

he's a father figure, you know, the kind of guilt that you get from your dad, you know, when you do something wrong, you know, he's easy for him to, you know, leave that kind of guilt on you just by looking at you. Like with a little shake of the head, like, you know, and that's all you need to say. He's like, okay, I got to be good at coaching.

Yeah. This is, yeah, this is the difference between playing in the NFL and just watching the NFL. Because that's all we think about is like, Hey, is Jim Caldwell alive? Like we know he's standing there, but what's going on? Like, does he, does he have a pulse?

But obviously, you know him a lot better. That's hilarious. That's so funny. Yeah. I had a lot of time thinking about that. Too much time thinking about it. You had another great, great coach, too. You had another coach, Jim Schwartz, who just like all time fiery guy. He always seemed like he wanted to,

like the exact opposite personality. Like he always wanted to fight. If not the other team, then like some of the guys on your own team at any given time. Did you, you ever butt heads with him? No, I didn't really butt heads with Jim too much, man. Cause I'm always, I'm always about my business

doing what I got to do. So we don't have any problem, but it was hilarious to watch him like, when he gets pissed off because he is firecracker. Like he will go all in. He will dig, he will chew you out. He'll chew a wrap out. The other team, oh, you know, game day.

Yeah. He's fired up. Like he's ready to, he's ready to whoop somebody. But like, I don't know to put him in past. He might, he might run into somebody and fall down, but he's going to give it a good, good effort. What happened after the famous Harbaugh incident? What happened in the locker room? You guys like, hey coach, what, what,

what happened out there dude? Like you, you good? What happened that game? I remember, yeah, after the game, it was like a little white shuffle or something. Yeah, they were kind of chest bumping each other. Yeah. Yeah. A little something. Yeah. A little extra juice.

Like I think Harbaugh slapped him on the back a little bit. And then Schwarzenegger slapped him back. And shout out Bobby Lang hopping in there. It's so paining cause I know Schwarzenegger, it seems like my Harbaugh get a little pained too sometimes. So they had something going on there. It was pretty funny. It was very interesting to me.

Yeah. It was laughable. The other thing that Schwartz had, which again, this is going to sound weird to you because you played the game and we just watched the game. But whenever he got really excited, he had very perky nipples through his shirt. He really did. What? Yeah. No, he was, he was nipping out all the time.

I don't know if you guys noticed that. So it wasn't just the nipples. He had like very, very triangular breasts. This is where we're going sideways, Calvin. I don't know if you, like he's strong portion of the interview. Calvin, he's a strong, he's a pretty fit guy. Now, every time I look at these old, now look at the, every time I look at these old game films,

I'm going to have you happy to look at Manchester. Yeah. You're going to be like, is Jim Caldwell alive? And what the hell is going on with Schwarzenegger's nips? He's got triangular pecs that it accentuates the nipples. Yes. Yes. Strong guy. Yeah. That's too funny. So I'm reading up about the Thanksgiving Day miss call.

And the reason that they took that, or that the touchdown stayed on the board is because Jim Schwartz, he got too excited in the moment. He threw the challenge flag. Scoring plays are always reviewed automatically. And there was a rule in place that if a coach throws a challenge flag on a play that's going to be reviewed anyways, they're not allowed to challenge it,

which is a rule that makes. That is some bull. That rule makes absolutely no sense at all. But so, and I think the Lions were the only ones that ever got victimized by it. I'm sorry. That's a bull, man. I didn't even know that.

Okay. That was the actual thing I remember now. He did throw the flag, but you said because he threw the flag and it was a reviewable play, they kind of canceled out. So you can't review it. That's so stupid. Makes no sense. Yes. Makes no sense.

Oh my goodness. So PFT obviously talked about the game that you had over 300. What was, what was in your mind, the game that you were like, no one, you're a perfect game, the game that no one could touch you and you were just in the zone. When we played in Oakland, I didn't have a lot of one on one battle,

but I had a good one here and we played Oakland 2011, maybe. It's forced to keep our playoffs, but start is slow, but we ended up coming back to win the game, just staying in the playoff hunt. I had like 200 yards and the game went in touchdown. So that's probably my favorite cause it's always, it's always fun to do it away. It's always even more fun doing it at home

is have a big game away to shut up the crowd. That's probably my favorite thing. Yeah. I'm looking at it right now. So you had nine catches, 214 yards, two touchdowns and a 51 yard touchdown reception. Yeah. That was a big one. Yeah. Big game. Whew. Was there any quarterback that you matched up against?

And you were like, this guy, all right, this guy gives me the most trouble. I give you two guys. When I first came to the league, nobody liked playing out here. So we played them twice a year. Roy Williams at the time, he always hated playing out.

And I didn't know nothing about Alan till I heard Roy talking about him the week before we played him. He's like, man, all he does is put his hands in your face and refer where you let him get away with it. Got it. Yeah. And lo and behold, I'm thinking, okay, well, I ain't got to worry about that. You're the number one receiver you got his ass.

Lo and behold, halfway through the game, they're switching over to me, to myself. And I got a good taste of like, okay, if this is how it is, this is the battle I got to do with the line of scrimmage. This is, this is how I got to, you know, Taylor, myself, this is who I got to play against on the weekly base or, you know, twice a year. I got a, this is, this is, this, this, he was the,

you know, the one that, you know, I modeled, not modeled my game after, but as far as the aggressiveness that I came with, you know, the fight at the line of scrimmage, it was all tailored after playing out against all, hey, all here's, but I knew, you know, the fight and massiness that I had to come with. And then after that, I had to say Pat, Pat Peterson,

because he's the best athlete I've seen over there on the cornerback, hands down. Interesting. All right, I have one last question. Roeback question, use code PFT on roeback.com for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com, code PFT. They make the best performance polls

and the only performance polls we wear. And for our guests today, we'd like to give you a Roeback Performance Q-Zip on us. You posted a picture of you and Barry Sanders just having a talk, says words of wisdom that I'll never take for granted. When you and Barry Sanders get together, do you guys just like sigh?

Do you just like, huh, man, like the Lions? Ugh. Yeah, it happens, you know, they're all ready. Yeah, man, I mean, it comes up. I mean, me and Barry don't get to spend a whole lot of time together, but whenever we are together, you know, it's just, we don't even really talk about the Lions,

but when we were at that Rockin' Mortars, that's when we were at that event, it came up. But at the end of the day, you know, it was two of the best, you know, getting the kick it, man. I got me a picture of that, those are valuable moments. Yeah, absolutely. He's got a great laugh, too. Whenever Barry starts laughing, everybody else in the room.

Yes. I had to tell Barry about it, man, you gotta smile for my picture, bro. Like, you ain't gonna be smiling all the time. He never smiles, I did a whole, I remember I did a whole blog about it like five years ago. I was like, what's up with Barry Sanders? He doesn't smile in any pictures.

I think you should slip him some primitive, like a couple of edibles. Dude, he's smiling, he's getting cheesed out, yeah. Oh, man. All right, well, Calvin, this has been awesome. Good luck with your speech. Remember, Tony Sheffler, just throw that in there. Just slip it in there.

There's gotta be like, there's gotta be a portion of your speech where you just start listing off names. I do. Get Tony Sheffler in there. You know he's a good teammate. He was a great, I love Tony, man, he was so cool. All right, well, thank you so much, Calvin.

Really appreciate it. No problem, good time. See ya. Good luck, man. Thank you. Thank you. That interview was brought to you by our great friends over at Noom.

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