Pardon My Take - Celtics Coach Joe Mazzulla Fresh Off The NBA Title, Oilers Force Game 6 And A Show Announcement

Episode Date: June 19, 2024

The Celtics win the Title and the summer of Hank is officially on. We talk about Monday night, Finals MVP, Mavs future and more (00:00:00-00:32:36). We then talk about the Oilers dragging the Panthers... back to Edmonton and RIP Willie Mays (00:32:36-00:44:16). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Rory's non apology and Jerry O'Connell's congratulations to Hank (00:44:16-01:09:59). Celtics Coach Joe Mazzulla joins the show to talk about Monday night, coaching with a torn MCL, what he said to the team before winning it all, when Hank needs to shave his head by and tons more (01:09:59-01:41:03). We finish with a show announcement (01:41:03-02:01:05).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:03:00 the Boston Celtics are champions of the world. Congrats Hank. The summer of Hank is upon us. It is nigh. The long, long drought for Boston all the way back to 2018 is finally over. Five and a half years. It's really incredible that you survived this long. Maybe the the biggest drought of your entire life as a sports fan. I think it is. I'm so glad that it's over because you must have been in hell for those five and a half years. But the Celtics, they did in five games. You thought so glad that it's over, because you must have been in hell for those five and a half years.
Starting point is 00:03:25 But the Celtics, they did in five games. You thought they'd do it in six? I bet them to win it under five and a half games. That's just false. You said on this very show. Yeah, I did say on this show six. Listen, Hank, this is going to be a Hank Wett suckfest. You don't need to come in hot right now.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Congratulations, Hank. You're better than us as a sports fan. The city of Boston is better than us as sports fans. I'm very jealous of everything you've gotten to experience, but you had a great team. And Jalen Brown proved all the haters wrong, and he is in that top five now.
Starting point is 00:03:54 He's the best player on the team. Jason Kidd was 100% correct. Congratulations to Jalen Brown. Very happy for you. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Tell us, Al Safford.
Starting point is 00:04:04 By the way, people who are wondering, we're going to tape after the Stanley Cup. So you'll hear us react to game five. If the Panthers end up winning and everyone's like, why didn't you say Panthers as well? We will, if they do. One more thing real quick about Jalen Brown. You know how I know he's the man and he's Batman on that team?
Starting point is 00:04:22 Yeah. He wore the wire. Yeah. He wore the wire. And Wendy taught us, that's the man and he's Batman on that team. Yeah, he wore the wire Yeah, he wore the wire and Wendy taught us that's the man the man wire. Yeah I do think they kind of switched that person game by game, but that's fine It was a great night. There's truly nothing better the day after you know, as fun as it is to win a championship that night You don't go to sleep until like 2 a.m. You watch every video. You watch the locker room. You see all the quotes. There's nothing better than the day after winning a championship as a sports fan. Taking it all in. Looking at all the old takes. There was a five minute compilation of all of every single sports show saying Jalen Brown and Jason Tate will
Starting point is 00:04:59 never work together. Break them up. And that's just the best stuff. Uh, it was, it was an emotional night. It was, it was great to watch Brad Stevens is, you know, the greatest GM of all time. Danny Ains, recurring guest. Well, you think Brad seems as the greatest GM of all time? I think he's gotta be in all time. All time. One title. He is in the conversation. We are having the conversation. Yeah. Well, we'll see. Yeah. I mean, the team is is set up for a great great run and which is the most exciting. Oh, you're thinking about the next one I am thinking I mean you have to think about the next one It's like why what we made it to game seven last year Jason Tatum rolled his ankle. They almost came back from 3o We've been in the Eastern Conference finals. Nothing but success. We win a championship now and we're set up
Starting point is 00:05:41 We're set up for maybe a mini dynasty Maybe a real one. Oh, I I know I'm saying already a mini-dine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no No, I completely agree with Hank that he is laser focused on the next one. He is wearing a shirt This is banner 18 on it. Well, you got to celebrate him when you get him shouldn't you wear sure. This is banner 19 Question mark. No, I like the Celtics had a blank banner in their practice facility signifying the next one. Now they get to fill it out. The, well, they're gonna have another blank banner.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah. Okay. The game was never really in doubt. It was the Celtics coronation. I the funniest part of the game I thought was the last 10 minutes when Tatum was trying very hard to get the MVP. It turned into a little bit of, it was Lucas Stapp padding. And then Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum just going for trading off.
Starting point is 00:06:32 But yeah, you guys, I mean the Celtics were the best team by far in the NBA this year. It showed in the regular season. It showed in the playoffs. They had an incredible run. They only lost three games. I do think I don't want it to become a full glaze off of Hank. The story of Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and like everything they've gone through, that is why you watch sports. And that is the culmination
Starting point is 00:06:58 of like both from a fan perspective and from their perspective of putting in the hard work and trying to get up to the top of the mountain failing, failing, failing and then reaching that point is very cool. Jaylen Brown is like an all time success story in player development with, you know, when we had a Danny Ainge on and he was talking about, you know, his game was far from being refined, same with Jason Tatum, all the growth he's had. It's very cool, Hank. It's very cool, Hank. It's very cool. You guys did it. And it does get to shut up all the haters that thought those
Starting point is 00:07:30 two guys couldn't coexist. And you're right, Brad Stevens. I mean, the Drew Holiday and the Chris Stops For Zingas moves were all time. I wonder who had a worst Tuesday, Marcus Smart or Eme Odoka? It's got to be Odoka. Marcus Smart is definitely happy, probably a little bit bittersweet, obviously. But- Odoka just had to not be horny. Yeah. Odoka fumbled the bag. Marcus Smart, it wasn't really his choice, but he does get to say he helped the culture and Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown. He was instrumental in their
Starting point is 00:08:03 upbringing as players. So I'm sure he's happy for them. Obviously it is sad, like it's bittersweet, I'm sure, but it's definitely a doka. Yeah. Yeah. I would probably agree with that. Marcus Smart, though, not a great day either. I don't think it was much bittersweet as much as it was bitter for Marcus Smart, just because
Starting point is 00:08:22 those are the guys that you played with. You probably really wish you were on that team, especially considering how this year went for him. But, and they needed the guys who they brought in for him to get over the hump. Yeah. Although True Holiday was the difference maker. True Holiday was incredible. I still, Bucs fans will get mad.
Starting point is 00:08:38 I still think that like, I don't understand that. Yeah, they just gave him away. And they let the Celt, I know they didn't directly trade him to the Celtics, but they opened the door for the Celtics to get him. Yeah, kind of a head scratching move on that one. But KP, Chris Ops Porzingis, he did play. Hank was right.
Starting point is 00:08:56 They got him in the rotation. A lot of people were questioning whether or not he actually should have been in the rotation. He was a massive liability last night. They were just going after him. They were just like, we're going to take a three. We're going to get spacing. And he's not going to be within 10 feet.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I'm glad that he got to show how tough he was and get to the game, because he's probably in some serious pain today dealing with that. But yeah, you guys walloped the Mavericks so hard that you didn't even need a fourth guy on defense for a lot of the time. They were just a much better team. Celtics have been the best team all year, the best team all playoffs. Congratulations, Hank. Uh, you're better than us. Question. Yes. Well, let's glaze a little bit more. Max, you want to glaze a little, you got to say something. I can get sentimental too.
Starting point is 00:09:38 Yeah, get sentimental. And then I have some, uh, some follow-up questions. Big Coward members. He was there when I started at bar sold basically for the first year two years I was thinking I was getting fired every step of the step of the way So I was like trying to think of things to do so that I could get some level of job security at the time There was no Celtics blogger. So I started blogging the Celtics big. Oh, you know, I'm blogging the Celtics I'm doing stuff day to day that was basically right after the Paul Pierce Kevin Garnett trade when the rebuild happened. And so seeing it go from that team to developing, it was before they even drafted Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown like a year or two before.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And so just seeing it all kind of culminate into, you know, when they won the first championship, I was a freshman in high school, that was kind of the start of my adulthood and then it's like 16 years later 31 This whole you know eight years of my life in the Celtics That was just it was a beautiful beautiful night. Some say that you had a process and you trusted it big time Yeah, that's where Brad Stevens and Brad Stevens the craziest process. He developed them as a coach Like he knew Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum as a coach. He developed that team. They overperformed when he was the coach They were rebuilding but they still made the playoffs. They still fought they went to game seven against LeBron when Jason Tatum I think that was the Jason Tatum's 19 or 20 year and
Starting point is 00:10:55 Then he became the GM got in he had a doko who was a player's coach He would you know fumbled the bag and then they brought in another even better football guy like the best coach you could ever have local guy Providence Players coach to just make him that much better got poor Zingis got you holiday Danny Ains set the foundation and then Brad Stevens just yeah made it happen Can you even truly say that you have a great culture though if you do things like not even give Grant Williams a tribute video? You see that he was he was about that. He said I was pissed I was definitely pissed about not getting a tribute video
Starting point is 00:11:30 The video of Jalen Brown walking past him. Yeah, I saw that was like Jalen Jalen Brown and Grant Williams like reconnect he was walking down a hallway just giving people high fives and he gave him a high five like he Was just like a security guard and then talked to like a lady with her baby for for way longer than he acknowledged Graham Williams then went to taco fall and goes I love you taco like he didn't say anything to Graham Williams and then taco you could tell he was like you know yeah love you taco like we're boys tribute video needs to happen for grant yeah do you think he did great waves everyone's ragged on that game seven against like he did have a huge Huge game for the Celtics game seven against the body. It's why would you go to that? Yeah, I don't know
Starting point is 00:12:10 Why would you go to that? I don't know. Do you think Jalen Brown was a deserving MVP? Yeah, I thought the votes They put the votes out. I think it was you know, seven or eight to four or you know He had three or four more which is which is fair. He he's Performed slightly better in the finals. I also- Jason Tatum did lead the team in points, rebounding and assists for the playoffs. So it's like, it just shows.
Starting point is 00:12:32 And Jason Tatum said it after. It's a media thing to be like, oh, try and drive a wedge into him. But like, Kobe won two finals MVP's. Like, Andrea Goodall won, Andrew Wiggins won. Like, it's not that big a deal as people are trying, even though they just won the championship, even though they've been talking shit about it for so long, they're still trying to be like, there's issues here.
Starting point is 00:12:54 We would never do that. Yeah. Yeah. We would never do that. I do think- Yeah, Jalen is clearly the better player. I do think, I don't think Andrew Wiggins ever won a finals MVP. Oh, Steph Curry won that? I thought he won. Yeah, Steph Curry won that. I do he won. Yes, Steph Curry won that. I do think Jalen Brown was deserving MVP winner because if you look at this series, which wasn't really competitive, the only time that you could point to it and say, oh, this was the game that I thought the Mavs would win or be at least up for was game three going back to Dallas.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And his second half in that game basically ended the series. Yeah. Like he single-handedly ended the series there. So I do think he should have won MVP. Tatum tried hard at the end. I'm very happy for Al Horford. That was cool. I also got a little, like it was cool watching Jason Tatum throw Deuce Tatum up in the air. That picture is- If you can't get emotional about that, you got a cold heart. All time picture.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Max, I would like to hear you maybe compliment Hank. No, thank you. I would like to pass on that. Okay. All right, Max is passing. Max, what were your thoughts? Celtics 1. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Good thoughts. That thought? That's what's going on in this head. Not a lot going on in that. Are you happy for Hank? No. As a person? A little. No you're a max come on Come on, man. Do this Mac. That's bad karma, but that is Billy scumbaggery. That is a billion championships I don't I'm not like happy that you got your one champion
Starting point is 00:14:18 It's like you've never won. I mean you did be couple Patriots in the Super Bowl couple we did I mean you did be called Patriots in the Super Bowl couple we did No, I don't I don't care But you the way you were saying that you were like everyone doubted doubted them said that they couldn't win a championship together That'll be great when that story said about him bead. Oh That's what I was maxi maxi Yeah, but like I feel like he's had four teammates that he actually has just run out of town. Well, there's Al Horford There's true holiday Jimmy Butler. This is your moment Hank. Why are you doing this? Don't let him drag you down This is your moment. Yeah. No, you're right
Starting point is 00:14:53 It is you don't think that'll be a story of everyone being like, oh, yeah Everyone said MB couldn't win win the big one and then he wins the big one. Yeah, you're right It is there's nothing there's nothing better than that moment I'm not gonna say I hope it happens for you because it's probably not but there is nothing. It is. There's nothing better than that moment. I'm not going to say I hope it happens for you because it's probably not. But there is nothing. You're right that there's nothing better than when people say that. Yeah. And you can just be like send the picture with them holding the championship trophy. So you're thinking mini dynasty loading. I'm already thinking I was looking at that picture and I'm like the best
Starting point is 00:15:19 picture ever is going to be when it's reversed. When we win another championship, Jason Tatum is the playoff up the finals MVP Oh, so you're sounds like you're building a wedge So you are no no Jason Tatum needs to win a finals MVP to be on the same level I'm just thinking of how like how sick that picture will you think Tatum will play well enough in the future finals? Of course, okay It's interesting though because it's the day after you guys win a championship. You're already thinking in the back of your head This kind of stinks that Jason didn't get MVP Tatum needs to get one to even it up after you guys win a championship. You're already thinking in the back of your head,
Starting point is 00:15:45 this kind of stinks that Jason didn't get MVP. Tatum needs to get one to even it up. Yeah. That's kind of what you just said. It's like there's a rivalry. It's like there's a mini Philly Boston rivalry. No. I'm just thinking of then, then what do they say?
Starting point is 00:15:59 Because it's crazy how quickly people jump to that. The tension, though, on when they were announcing the finals MVP was the best part of the game. Oh yeah. Like that was the most thrilling part of the game. I also think if I could be like a little bit serious about basketball here, I think that that does a disservice to the Celtics as a whole because if you just take Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum and you put those two up against some of the other big twos in the league,
Starting point is 00:16:23 I don't necessarily think that they're the best two in the league. I think that there are some other teams that might have better duo. No, the rest of the Celtics, the Celtics were an awesome team. Jason and Jalen are very, very good. They're elite basketball players. They both sort of made one of the tiers of first team all NBA. They're the Pistons. Oh.
Starting point is 00:16:44 They're the Pistons. They're Oh, there are the Pistons. Like the mid-2000s Pistons. That's correct. That's this. They ended star power. Need star power to win finals last night. Yeah, well, if you were to take the starting five, even the top six or seven guys in the rotation,
Starting point is 00:17:00 the Celtics are, without a doubt, the best team in the NBA. Their depth is insane. They're very very good So when you boil it down to Jason or Jalen You know which one of these guys is going to be the guy that that single-handedly cares That's never gonna happen with this team right? Oh, and that's the beauty It's us it's a team sport like I don't root for one of them more than I root for the other No, I want to just said that just for the media because then it's like this is what they're gonna run just rooting for the final 16. No, I want that to happen. Yes, you are. You just said that.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Just for the media, because then it's like, this is what they're going to run with for the next year. You are the media. Yeah, you are the media. You host part of my team. I'm not running for it. I'm happy for the Celtics. I'm happy for the team.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It is, like I said, Brad Stevens deserves as much credit as anyone. Yeah, Brad Stevens. Obviously, he's not playing the game, but Joe Mazzulla, Derek White, or Zingas. Brad Stevens made the moves to get Sam Hauser was incredible hitting threes the do you want to do the reveal the shirt reveal yeah no take off your hat and show everyone the shaved head I know but I do have a plan oh okay okay plans are important I have to hear this plan I have volunteered myself oh you're gonna do charity you motherfucker to go to Long enough the first home game banner night, and I'll be in attendance with a fully bald shaved head during football season
Starting point is 00:18:13 Yeah, wow it would be like a weeknight probably so the opposite of charity. Yeah His hair is not long enough for that I I was nervous he was going to flip it on us. Lockwood for love. See Big Cat, the thing about me is when I cut my hair off, I'm going to give it to charity because I want people who are less fortunate to have my hair Hank to think about other people that way.
Starting point is 00:18:38 I don't think anyone wants this. Hank, you deserve your happiness. Again, I don't know, does he? No, he deserves his happiness. The happiness that he has, there's something to back it up. Yeah. I'm not wishing for him to be happy, but he deserves the happiness.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Are we saying he deserves it in terms of his work? Actually, yeah. No, he deserves to be happy right now. Right now because of what happened. Correct. I also think five and a half years is a long time you put in you put in the grind So respect that's crazy And and and there is like like I said before like the Jalen Brown Jason Tatum people can do revisionist history
Starting point is 00:19:13 But there was a very big debate of whether those two guys can do it together and they proved they could Did you like Jason Jalen Brown holding up the trophy with his left hand? Yeah, like that Because he can't dribble his left He's the finals MVP. That is true. He's the finals MVP, which is pretty crazy It's actually the most amazing thing ever more the wire to be the finals MVP without only using one hand Yeah, imagine if he could use to be every MVP Can I well, let's talk about the maps real quick? every MVP. Can I, well, let's talk about the Mavs real quick. Also the clip, and again, I shouldn't, I shouldn't, it should be positive. And I got, people were
Starting point is 00:19:54 mad at me for being a player. Wait, what are you going to say? Did you see the video? And it was, it was a, it was a good move. Kyrie, you know, he lost, but the leadership, but he waited on the court and dapped up every Mavericks player as they were walking off like he was he was the first one In line he stepped back and then was dapping all the players up waited for the last person and followed him in the tunnel It was just green and white confetti just falling on his face. He liked that. I liked it. Yeah, I liked it I liked it a lot. I liked it a lot. He also got out you sound like you're getting horny right now It was I and I didn't want to even you you know, I was just tweeting about the Celtics.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I didn't want to say it, but I watched it many times. He gave a little shout out to the fans too on the way out. Yeah, no. I feel like the rivalry's over. It's 100% over. He hasn't won in Boston, and it's like he, you know. One in 13? One in 13, and I think oh and nine or something in Boston.
Starting point is 00:20:46 Damn. So what I was going to say with the Mavs, as bad as that finals was, I feel like you can, I would buy stock in Luca because it feels like he's getting shit on. He's 25 years old and he's made all NBA, I think, four out of his first five years, something like that. And Derek Lively is going to be really good
Starting point is 00:21:04 for a really long time. They probably need to add a couple five years, something like that. And Derrick Lively is gonna be really good for a really long time. They probably need to add a couple more pieces, but. Did you hear what he, but Mavs fans like. What? His press conference after he did the, I might be a free, like I got some things to think about. Oh, I didn't see that. What does he have to think about?
Starting point is 00:21:20 That is what they say when they're might be doing be free agent or something. Oh, interesting. Right? Is that? I don't know. That's what they are saying when there might be doing beef free agent or so. Oh, right. Is that I don't I don't know That's what they are saying when they might be doing free I think Luca just needs to get in better shape because he this entire finals every first half He was the best player on the court and then he would start to fade and that is credit to Celtics defense Which is phenomenal
Starting point is 00:21:39 but either way I would be buying stock in the MAVs because as much as that sucked and you were Far away from winning the title because it wasn't really a competitive series You do have like a young nucleus that feels like it will be competing for a lot of years going forward. I mean, Derek Lively, yes. I don't know if you're gonna get the same Kyrie and Luka magic at the same time that we had. I don't think it's I think Luka is gonna be Luka's the the path that that we had the... I don't think... I think Luka's gonna be... Luka is... the path that Luka's on, he's going to win a title. I would put... I'd bet it right now.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Luka will win a title. I think he probably will. I just don't know if it's gonna be with Kyrie. Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'm just saying, like, Luka is... The Mavs can keep Luka. You should be... Like, if you're a Mavs fan, as much as today sucks,
Starting point is 00:22:24 you should be like, well, we have Luka, so we have a chance to win a title essentially for the next seven to ten years Yeah, I mean the way that your team's constructed you you Silenced a lot of critics when you beat the Timberwolves when you beat the Nuggets or not The Timberwolves beat the Nuggets you beat the Timberwolves. That was a big series for you guys. It's not a fluke that you're there Yeah, you're that good offensively. And the defense is pretty good, but the problem with Celtics is they're just too deep. What are you finding, Hank? You finding this?
Starting point is 00:22:51 I'm trying to make sure you said that. I don't think he did. I don't see it. I have one thing that we didn't talk about. Actually memes brought this to my attention. Okay, because I have another thing that's maybe going to get a little negative that I don't... Maybe Hank should leave the room for, but go ahead.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Well mine is the Jason Tatum Kevin Garnett. Yes. So that was it. That was what I was gonna say. Hank, would you like to speak at all about the fact that Jason Tatum has negative aura? I think we have a real life case of this in our own crew and it's just something with the younger generation. Like everyone, it's just all nostalgia in today's's day and age is, you know, they wear the old jerseys, they
Starting point is 00:23:29 just remake the same movies. Everyone's on social media, the memes. He has a little bit of that. Like he just kind of speaks in memes and thinks in memes. Oh, you mean with your own shot at me with our own crew. Who do you mean? Memes speaks in memes. Memes does speak in memes. Thinks in memes. Yeah. He thinks in memes. So you think speaks and memes does speak thinks and memes. Yeah, he thinks and memes So you think Jason Tatum speaks and thinks and memes it just didn't feel authentic
Starting point is 00:23:49 Which again, this is very nitpicky because they just won the title and they did really did do it. They did do it He said we did it and they did it and then he also did the Kanye at the after party. Oh That was a he's just yes speaks and memes. Yeah, he speaks to me. What was the Kanye? It was like everyone was wondering what would happen if we didn't win the title. I guess you'll never know. Oh, okay. For a second. I thought no, not the other kind. You might have like thanked his doctor. I'm not going to say what kind of doctor. No, no, no, no, no. It was he. I don't honestly I don't care. I I do I don't give a shit. You doesn't have aura No, no nor should you but it and he does would you well, I don't know I don't know if he has or Jalen Brown has or
Starting point is 00:24:32 Jalen Brown has or wearing the mask. Yeah something about Jalen Brown. He like he see very cool Yeah, what would you say Jalen Brown has more or than Jason Tatum? No, oh, they have equal or do you know that's they know you're not just here Would you say Jalen Brown has more aura than Jason Tatum? No. Oh. I think they have equal aura. No. You do. That's, now you're not just, yeah. How can you have the same aura when Jalen Brown has a finals MVP?
Starting point is 00:24:52 I would say that Jason Tatum, I feel like you either have aura or you don't. Right. And Jalen Brown has it and Jason Tatum doesn't. You have negative aura. I think it's a rare thing to have. Yeah. Almost as rare as winning finals MVP. I'd say exactly as have. Yeah, almost as rare as winning finals MVP. I'd say exactly as as
Starting point is 00:25:06 rare. Yeah. So when so they both have no or just be honest with us for a second. It's okay that no I know I'm not trying to I'm not trying to shit on. I'm not trying to say he has no like me. Yeah. Jalen Brown has a little more aura but I'll have aura trying to drive a wedge. I think Deuce has aura aura do's had the best night of his life you say way more or than his dad yeah yeah there is I mean it's like yeah he that kid got to he was an NBA champion last night yeah no listen no one cares like Jason Tatum doesn't care that people are making fun of him online right now he just won the title who cares it would It would be funny. But it was,
Starting point is 00:25:45 it was a crit. It was a little bit of a... He's like refreshing the timeline, seeing all the memes and he's immediately like put down in the dumps. Yeah. With the trophy. Like, they're clowning me. They're saying I'm corny. What did he say when he tried to do the KG? The best, he said, we did it. We did it. We did it. And, but they did. Right. He looked up the same way the KG did. Yeah, it looked like he practiced it When I want just an authentic moment there Like he'd just be authentic and be like that fucking that was fucking awesome on the flip side The picture of him throwing deuces the most authentic I agree
Starting point is 00:26:17 That's one of the best pictures that in sports history that that had a little aura to it, right? It's more deuce, but that had aura Yeah, it wasn't the most natural moment. Yeah okay there we go we got that. You don't think texting Kobe and then posting a screenshot that's not aura? I don't think so. No? You think he texted Kobe? It is cool though looking back at the Tatum when he tweeted at LeBron asking for a follow. That's one of my favorite. Yeah. When he uh, let me pull it up. And they had Jalen Brown I think it was right after he got drafted or Lebron asking for a follow. That's one of my favorite. Yeah when he And they had jail and when Jalen Brown I think it was right after he got drafted or before he got drafted He went to the finals when the Warriors were playing and they were following him for like NBA TV or some, you know peace
Starting point is 00:26:57 And he was just like I'm this is I want to get here. I'm gonna get here. Mm-hmm Yeah, and like the young Al Horford the picture, you know, cuz I'm very happy. He was on the Celtics with young Jason Tatum, Jalen Brown and Left and somehow the teams let him come back right and he what happened when he left He signed a huge contract got a fat bag fat bag from the Philadelphia 76 Well, they didn't have any other players that they were gonna give that bag to Yeah, no, I mean, it's a great, I mean, NBA champion, college champion. Like it was a good, good, good signing for them, bad organization. So they didn't work out, but it's just a miracle
Starting point is 00:27:33 that he got back basically for nothing, which again is Brad Stevens. Yeah. The Jason Tatum tweets at LeBron was when he was 14 years old. He said, King James, follow back. It's Larry Hughes, nephew from St. Louis and Aben, RJ little cousin and Justin's son follow back I Love that. I love that and the Matthew to Chuck Spelled learn puck. Yeah, he gave him a shout out afterwards. He's like get another one for a kid from st. Louis Yeah, well that videos virus. Yeah Well, and we'll put in I love basketball Yeah, but yeah, my god Matthew to Chuck so you're okay with just the allegations of negative aura
Starting point is 00:28:13 But you also literally just said that the picture of him induced was aura. That's a picture It's like that was also because of Deuce minus but but said Deuce had the aura is or the Explorer So he's got or DNA. He's got or in his DNA. No, it could come from the mom. No, it could come from the mom. It's true. Could come from you inherit that from mother side. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, you know, he's got auras. Derek White. Yes. Derek White's got aura. He's the best smashing the tooth open. What do you say afterwards? Like I would give up all my teeth for a championship. I'm pretty sure he was concussed. Yeah. Yeah. Cause he, he did not, he was like deadpan.
Starting point is 00:28:46 And we were talking about it in the gambling cave. It has to suck. I know that it's obviously incredible to win a title, but you win a title, and you're like, this is going to be the best week of my life. We're going to go party. And in the back of the head, anyone who's ever had tooth pain, he just
Starting point is 00:29:02 keeps running his tongue over his broken tooth, being like, god fucking damn it Yeah, this fucking sucks like you've gone all your life with a great smile Yeah, and then you get ready to take the most important picture of your life. Yeah holding up the NBA trophy He did no teeth and then that ass. Yeah. Yeah, it is it is cool And it's a hockey guy move to say like yeah I'll give it and those are the pictures that get like hung up in bars forever like it's always like the cool like bloody You're like whatever like that's that's a badass picture, but that does have to suck though deep down where he's just like goddammit
Starting point is 00:29:30 I wish my teeth weren't broken that I feel like that's like after the parade cuz he's gonna have adrenaline They went to Miami they I like they I think Windhorst said they wrote on the whiteboard before the game Flight to Miami at noon. Oh, wow. They had it booked. I like that. That's pretty cool. Happy 617 day also. Yeah, 617 day.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Pretty impressive. Are you guys doing championships every time the Cicadas come out? No, that's way too much time. No, for the Celtics. Wait for the Celtics. Yeah, I hope not. This is, and it is like the last two championships.
Starting point is 00:30:04 What, 2008? 16 years, yeah. So the Cicadas are 17. But yeah, and it is like the- I feel like the last two championships, what, 2008? 16. 16 years, yeah. So skaters are 17. But yeah, I don't wanna, hopefully we don't wait this long. It is, again, that 2008 Celtics team is when I fell in love with the Celtics and really started following them after that and- Front runner.
Starting point is 00:30:19 Oh! Yeah, I mean, a little bit, for sure. God forbid you root for a team that's good. Yeah, I mean a little bit for sure God forbid you root for a team. That's good Yeah, I mean I was like I was 13 years. Yeah, it wasn't like I was like Max is really hurt right now He's in he's just where you just like what like a die-hard Sixers fan when you were 11 When I yeah, I was of every sport when I was a Celtics fan But I wasn't I'm not gonna sit here and pretend like I was like watching every game And following it after that season. I started following it forever and here on out. So yeah, you and I are just different. That's fine
Starting point is 00:30:53 He's hurt he's a hurt animal but It was great that they won one their legends forever It did you know it does feel and they say it that it you know they should have won more they could have won more So hopefully that doesn't happen again. What did Dave say afterwards heroes die? Yeah Said he got a little too high from the cigar what happened with Donnie lighting the scar on the wrong end that was great I don't know what he was thinking. I think that's just just Donnie being Donnie. Did you guys go party? I know I played pinball here for like an hour and oh, that's beautiful drink some
Starting point is 00:31:25 Coarselyes you also just showed up Very early today earlier than usual no I go to the same time I go to the gym eight to nine then I walk in Yeah, you were here pepping your step so much. I mean it's the best Yeah, it's getting nice. I didn't sleep you're watching every highlight. All right. We've done enough of this. Oh, yeah We already did this come on you get any nice text Yeah, who? anyone congratulate you here I? Did not Jake texted me big cat texted me I? Think that's it Wow I verbally
Starting point is 00:31:56 Congratulate you the first thing I said when I saw you was what yeah, you're second half time when you left the office Yeah, oh yeah I did so memes and max did not memes and max did not memes Was memes was quick to post, you know that they're all shared Yeah, but the ball that got rave reviews. So yeah, it does. It's nice good Oh, how about Missoula by the way coaching on a torn meniscus? I know Fucking beast. Yeah Well ask him. Yeah. Yeah, so
Starting point is 00:32:22 Okay, let's we're gonna take I mean we can keep going. I can, we can honestly talk. No, I do. I do have one more stat here. So Peyton Pritchard, yeah, the king of last second shots in the gambling cave. We called it before it happened. Yep. Like put him in. He can close out a quarter like nobody's business. Uh, Stat Hall looked us up. He is 10 for 37 with less than one second left in a quarter. It's pretty good. He's, he's one of the better players of all time You know who the best is? Pal Gasol who how Gasol shot 47% he went 22 for 47 in
Starting point is 00:32:55 His career with less than one second left in a quarter Wow that's crazy isn't it he's shout out to the K much much Yeah, the slow-mo cams that are great He's shout out to the k much much Yeah, the slow-mo cams that are great When he just takes like ten steps Yeah, knowing that in and because in real time it doesn't You're not gonna catch that but when they have the NBA Phantom cam. Mm-hmm. It's great to see yeah Okay, so we'll talk about the Stanley Cup and then we're gonna do hot sea cool thrown
Starting point is 00:33:25 Okay, PFT. We promised the people that we would update the show before we get to Hot Seat Cool Throne and Joe Missoula with Stanley Cup Final game five and we thought we would be talking about another championship tonight. Instead, they're dragging their ass back to Alberta. That was the series. That's what they kept on saying. I love that. Like, don't let it. Don't let us drag you back to Edmonton. Don't let us do it. We're going to drag you all the way back. And Connor McDavid was fucking unreal. That goal. I think it was the third goal, fourth goal maybe where he just diced up the entire Panthers defense and then dished it the last second to Corey Perry.
Starting point is 00:34:12 I'm starting to think this guy could win the big one. So Connor McDavid should just do that every single time. If he's capable of doing that, just do that more. And I think that's the key to the game, not to get all technical and in the weeds when it comes to hockey strategy, but just have Connor McDavid go one on four and then make a sick pass at the end. And that's pretty much unstoppable. I don't care. I don't care who Bob thinks he is, but you're not stopping that guy. It was awesome. It was good hockey second period, period of the week. Yep. Easy. And actually, even the even the end when when the goalie gets pulled and you're like, okay, games over. The Panthers survived, like multiple times where I thought
Starting point is 00:34:54 there was gonna be an empty netter and kept you on the edge of their your seat. And it was just a great, great hockey game that NHL is going to have to step up where the NBA failed us and maybe delivering us a classic final. If this one goes seven, who I mean, it was just great hockey great fucking I'm putting this on the nation of Canada, our hat, our neighbors to the north, Canada, do the right thing, give us seven games. This is a legacy series for Canada need to
Starting point is 00:35:23 need to just buy some time before we get into dog days. If the hockey is going to be this good, I want more of it. I want I want two more games. I agree. I agree. What did Connor McDavid he had? Yeah, what do you have? I think two goals and two assists. Yeah, he was crazy. The the save that Kachuk made at the end is going to not be talked about. Maybe you know what I actually think that now that I'm saying it, just talk to say nobody's going
Starting point is 00:35:50 to talk about the Kachuk save. A lot of people are going to talk about that part of it. But it was awesome hustling at the end and he should have knocked the net off its moorings. That would have been a smart play a heads up play. But yeah, it was a it was great hockey. The cats are getting dragged back. I saw a lot of gifts of cats just getting dragged across rooms kind of concerning that it's so easy to find a gift of the Cat getting dragged but here we are on the internet But yeah, let's let's go hockey give us more great hockey great fucking hockey
Starting point is 00:36:17 And we got a game six dragging all the way back to Edmonton on Friday night Before we do hot seat cool throwing back to ourselves Hankon on Friday night. Uh before we do hot tea, cool thrown back to ourselves, Hank, I know that we talked about aura. Have you seen the video that is now circulating? No. Oh, can I send it to you and get a live reaction? Max, I'm sure you
Starting point is 00:36:43 have seen this. No, I have a like this. I can just I feel a reach. I know it's not a reach at all. It's not a reach at all. It's just a mash up. It's a fun mash up. And I want you to watch it. And everything I said stands that like Tatum shouldn't have to apologize. He's a fucking he's a champion. Who cares if he's getting made fun of online? But I saw it and I had to bring it up. I sent it and I had to bring it up. I sent it to everyone.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Why don't you narrate it? Uh Max, why don't you narrate it when you're watching it? This is after what we talked. We talked about all of this. I know we did. But this is the new mashup that I didn't realize is all of it. What are
Starting point is 00:37:22 they going to say now? Like Steph Curry is not the only person that said that. There's no like it's it's a video of Jason saying what they're gonna say now, and then Steph Curry saying it. I would have to imagine that said in like a majority of championship locker rooms after a win. No? But it's a little bit tougher after he's already done it two other times in the same night with other people. The KG one, he didn't say anything is possible He did he said he was trying to do yeah his body language
Starting point is 00:38:01 Cushion art is interpretation you're interpreting that way like that's he didn't copy Kevin Garnett If you're saying that Steph Curry has trademarked the phrase, what they gonna say now, that's crazy. The Kanye one, that was word for word. He did it on stage in the same way. That was imitation. That was. What was there? Was there another one in there? No, it's up to you.
Starting point is 00:38:17 This is a good video. This is a very interesting video and it's from Hater Report. I'm gonna have to give Hater Report a follow. Sound like they're doing good things there pictures of him hugging the trophy and then a picture of MJ and Kobe hugging the trophy every fucking player that part that part was A reach that part was a real Part was a reach I could notice how you know what he did Say now what they're gonna say now Hank. You know what he did right after you're going to say now what they're going to
Starting point is 00:38:46 say now Hank you know what he did right after they won he sprayed champagne. Yeah. Oh what? Yeah. Just like just I can think of a couple guys that have done that. He's Ron Michael Jordan. Yeah. I mean it's it's probably a
Starting point is 00:39:03 reach. I'm just uh I just it was going viral on Twitter. So I thought we would talk about it, but that's fine. Yeah, no, it's fair. I do like the cat. I don't think Tatum should apologize for anything. I'm on your side, Hank. I'm just pointing this out. I got to say now is is stuff I can't get over that one. Like that one is a read marked. I can't even like what they're going to say now. Have you heard it? What they're gonna say now? All right. Let's you know what? Google will decide what they see what the trend on that is. I'll be a book written about it about like the fucking first. First hit is Steph Curry. Wait, Hank. I'm seeing Jason
Starting point is 00:39:43 Tatum. Hank, what were you gonna say? There's probably a book written about it. Yeah, about like the fucking St. John's Chicago men's basketball team from 1990 or something. Like what are they going to say now? St. John's Chicago. Yeah. 1990. But the fact that there's so many people that have titled like videos, what they're going to say now, Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:40:04 What they're going to say now? Like Curry, what they're going to say now, Shane Holloway, head coach. What are you seeing? What did they say now? Oh, Angel Reese said what they're going to say now. Huh? Steph Curry, what they're going to say now. He did do a tweet too. He's he's
Starting point is 00:40:23 he's a lot of the top. Soul Retriever on Instagram. What are they going to say now with the last time. Yeahager. Does it? what they're going to say. We're debunking this. Yeah. This is good. We've debunked. Yeah, I agree. Still bad aura. That's I can't wait for I can't wait for the parade. It it really just shows the true salt and you know denial that
Starting point is 00:41:24 that haters are in it and no but it's. Like this is an ongoing narrative. Now we can we can take every word that he says in public and then cross reference it to see if it's plagiarized. I like that. Uh friends 1994 season six episode three. You're gonna say things now, aren't you? That's basically the same thing, right? Yeah. Okay, last two things before we get to a hot sea cool thrown R.I.P. Willie Mays, incredible life, credible baseball player, one of the most iconic catches of all time. He, I mean, is he, he's on the Mount Rushmore baseball
Starting point is 00:42:00 players, right? Yeah. He's in the goat. He's in the goat category. Yeah, a lot of people. If you're like above the age of 50, you think that Willie Mays is the best baseball player to ever live. Yeah, sir. Yeah, the say hey kid. Great. Yeah. And that that catch the over the shoulder catch. Every time I watch it, I'm always amazed that they actually played baseball on that field. Yeah, the Polo Grounds 500 feet to straightaway center. It was a rectangle. Yeah, he's all time all time
Starting point is 00:42:31 legend. 93 hell of a life. That's a hell of a life. We all would be lucky to live to 93. But how was it? What does the say hey kid from? I got I think there was a song that they wrote about him called say hey. It's given his famous marker moniker say hey kid. Quick cost in the ball club money with long distance phone calls and join the team. It was also around the time that maze is getting his famous moniker the say hey kid. He yeah, one of the greatest of all time. So RIP Willie Mays. And then what happened with Aaron Judge? Yeah, he got hit by a pitch and he got x-rayed. So they were
Starting point is 00:43:13 saying that maybe they threw it Aaron Judge intentionally. That might have just been Jason Luckin for the old Washington Post guy that was saying like, good, I'm glad they threw out him because because Soho ran into the third basement on the Orioles, and I guess knocked threw out him because, uh, cause Soho ran into the third basement on their Orioles and I guess knocked him out of the game with a hip injury. And so, uh, some people were saying that maybe they went inside on judge as retaliation for Soto. I don't know if that's the case. I don't
Starting point is 00:43:37 think that's the case, but I think the X-ray you said Jake was negative, right? X-rays and scans have been negative. Oh, I found the Say Hey Kid. Mays received $6,000 for signing with the Giants after graduating high school in 1950. New York Journal American sports writer Barney Crimenko said that in Mays rookie season, the reticent Mays would blurt, say who, say
Starting point is 00:44:00 what, say where, say hey, what are they gonna say now? In my paper I tabbed him the say hey kid, it stuck. That's crazy. I might add it's the last one. When I entered MLB network, the cafeteria was the say hey cafe. Oh. I mean. Nothing better than getting a cafeteria named after you. Don't act like you wouldn't be flattered by that big cat. Oh, duh's better than getting a cafeteria named after you. Don't act like you wouldn't be
Starting point is 00:44:28 flattered by that big cat. Oh, duh. Better than an airport. Yeah. Absolutely. The cafeteria is not bad. People are happy in a cafeteria. Yeah. I would much rather cafeteria than a airport or a highway. Those would suck. I think my
Starting point is 00:44:41 dream is a horse. Horse would be good. Horse would be great. To say, hey horse. Horse would be good. Horse would be great. To say, hey, horse. What if he loses? Yeah, true. Hank had a horse named after him. It sucked. It was he's just finishing his race right now at Saratoga.
Starting point is 00:44:57 That's how slow he was and that was he raced 10 years ago. Um okay. Let's kick it to ourselves. Hotsie Cool Throne. Okay, let's do Hot Seat Cool Throne. Hot Seat Cool Throne presented by Coors Light. You don't have to be selling out stadiums to feel like you're chilling backstage. You just need Coors Light. Coors Light wants to make your summer more chill with limited edition backstage six packs curated by some of your favorite artists because music plus Coors Light equals chill amplified. Coors Light is the only choice when you're ready to choose chill.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Chores Light is cold-loggered, cold-filtered, and cold-packaged for a smoother finish. Hank, you wanna crack open a Chores Light? Yeah. Celebration Chores Light. Come on. What's the playlist when you win a title, Hank? With your Chores Light. Come on. When I was driving home last night because I saw a clip before I left of them playing March Madness by Future
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Starting point is 00:46:31 My hot seat are the haters. Oh, any in this room? Not in this room. Any in the other room? No, not them, they're not in the hot seat. They know where they're at. But the Oilers girl came online and just made a video just saying she's sick of the haters and to fuck off basically.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Good for her. What? She had haters? Yeah, I'll play the clip. She did have some haters. Can we do the video of the clip actually? Wait, no, Max will get the clip. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:47:01 So I've thought long and hard. I want to watch the clip. Max will get the clip. I want to watch the clip. Me just goes, the name's Kate. Got all the info. Oilers girl. Actually, my name's Kate, but here we are. So I've thought long and hard about what I wanted to say to everybody.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Anybody who knows me knows that I'm at one of my favorite places right now. Uh, come here to do some thinking, we'll call it. But I just wanted to say, you could be the most perfect, godly fucking person in the world. You could save kittens from a river if they were drowning. Someone's still gonna hate you. So you know what? At the end of the day, I got drunk and whipped my tits out at an Oilers game and they went viral.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Fuck you if you don't like it. Woo! Go Oilers! She makes a lot of good points. I was just waiting for her to show her teeth. Like that would have been a great mic drop. I think, I think she is wise beyond her years. Mm-hmm. Yeah, agreed.
Starting point is 00:48:10 You could save burning kittens from a river and they would find something wrong with you. Yep. The internet sucks. If we can't just get behind a nice pair of tits, what are we doing? And your cool throne Hank? Cool throne? My cool throne is these great shirts. Alright, now I regret Loot doing all that glazing. Okay, lucky, queueing the duck boats. Duck boats, city of champions, Max, we can get one of these for you. Plug God.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yep. I do... Still have parcel sports.com I love, but I hate at the same time, the Tidal Town shirt that has all the banners on there. It's just, it's obnoxious but I love it for you 18 years look at that nothing but success nothing but success nothing but success for Jalen Brown you're right yeah even in the aura department they have no I never claimed Jalen Brown didn't have or he's got fucking or come out of his ears. Two people can't share the aura. No, no. You guys. There's only
Starting point is 00:49:14 one or what you guys have. You guys. Hey, you have the aura in on this podcast. You have the championship DNA. Yeah, you have positive aura. All right, PFT, your hot seat cool thrown? My hot seat is Les Miles. Les Miles because he's suing LSU because they vacated his wins. They vacated some of his wins as a coach. And gave them to Coach K? They did not do that, but the reason why he's suing them is actually kind of interesting. So to get into the college football hall of fame, you have to have, I believe, a 60% winning
Starting point is 00:49:49 percentage. Right? Yeah. And I'm just looking at Hank because we're not talking about the Celtics. So you just went right to Texas and probably been like the parades coming up. Yeah. Okay. Keep going.
Starting point is 00:50:00 Sorry. All right. So very rude of you, Hank. So less. We were going to do five minutes. I was scheduling sorry okay are you scheduling a meeting no what always grinding about the production plan for the internet views okay okay all right so less miles had his wins vacated by else Hank I'm up here his wins were vacated by LSU he had a 65% winning it's how we're looking. I'm talking.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Oh, man. Talking, Hank. Getting spicy. Hey, Max, cut Hank's mic off. Thank you. We're getting spicy. All right, so I promise this is interesting. Okay, I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:50:36 So he had like a 65% career winning percentage. To get into the College Football Hall of Fame, as a coach, you have to have a 60% winning percentage. The wins that were vacated by LSU drops it down to 59.7%. So Les Miles can no longer get into the Hall of Fame. Yes. Because LSU vacated his wins. So he's suing LSU to try to get back. I don't know if LSU should give into them, but what I think LSU should do, find something that happened when Nick Saban was there. Because Nick Saban is up for eligibility next year. And if they took away his wins at LSU, that might drop below.
Starting point is 00:51:15 No chance. You don't think so? Below what? Total. Of what? Because I think. Total what? Wait, do the losses remain?
Starting point is 00:51:24 Yeah, but even if they took away all the wins, but you're saying percentage if the if the losses remained but the wins and what's the percentage you have to be 60 60. Yeah. Pft. If they get the losses. Pft. Do you know Alabama's record? Yeah, I know Alabama's record. I don't think you do. Yeah, they're really fun when they go 12 and one every year. That's it was a great. It doesn't matter a great idea that I had That's we got a what was his record while he was at LSU Talking that was that I was with you PFT until you said if we eliminate Nick Saban's LSU because if you want to be a real hater you could do that to a coach that left you and then came
Starting point is 00:52:01 And coach for your rival. I understand but Nick Saban's Hank we're Mike's not on you're not not Mike's not to put it no no no no no no no no no double mute. How many wins did Nick Saban have at LSU. Let's find that. Oh he was only there for five years. Yeah you're right. OK. And right. You're right. You're right. You're right. You're right. I'm wrong. You're right. I'm wrong. You're right. Nick Saban's 48 and 16. Nick Saban's win percentage rate is 80%. Yep. He's very far. 92 and 71. Yeah. So he could end the tie. Well, in theory, would have Michigan State find something and LSU find something. Nick Saban. We go ahead Hank. Hank go ahead. Check, check, check. Hank back on. What if PFT they can add his NFL losses? Well he's only like one season. Yeah. All right. I'm sorry. I'm trying to help you out. My bad. No, it was a dumb idea.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I had a dumb idea. I'm sorry. This show's built on dumb ideas. That's true. If you took away a hundred and... If you took away 140 of his losses, I think he'd still be in the Hall of Fame. He could lose like almost all his losses. That's correct. I mean all his wins. All his wins. Yeah. Okay. Let me save this for you. I think LSU should acquiesce to less miles. Let me say this for you. The rule that you have to have 60% to make the college football hall of fame is bullshit and should be changed because I did see this last week. Mike Leach is like 0.03% away. They need to let Mike Leach in the hall of fame.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Because who's to say that you weren't a giant contributor to the game if you didn't happen to have 60% more? Right. It's crazy. And he was that close and he obviously tragically passed when he was going to still coach more. That's crazy. So let Mike Leach in. Let Mike Leach in and then probably let Les Miles in. And also, but just to be haters- And also figure out how Saban can- Also just to be haters, they should vacate all of Nick Saban's wins so it looks worse
Starting point is 00:54:02 on him. If you're real about the rivalry. Yeah. You would find a way to do that. I'm doing the math right now. I think it would be, yeah, so if they vacated 182 of Nick Saban's wins. What'd you do, Hank? Did he spill?
Starting point is 00:54:21 There's something very bad breaking news is coming. Oh no. All right, breaking news, very bad breaking news is coming. Oh, no Said oh god, oh god Celtics official account says and here's what I'm gonna tell you today I got the Dallas Mavericks. I think there's gonna be a parade in Dallas Obviously I'm going with Dallas. Shh. Dallas. I got Dallas winning. I think Dallas is deeper.
Starting point is 00:54:50 I don't think Boston is deep at all. I like Dallas in this series. It's an easy choice for me. Dallas. Shh. The Boston Celtics have not seen anything close to what Dallas is doing. The two best players on this tour will be Luke and Guy. Or it's the very good. Oh, no. Oh no!
Starting point is 00:55:10 The Celtics are not beating Luka. I like how Max got second billing to the corgi that knocks basketball stuff. Yeah! We couldn't even get a clip! Oh, that must double sting for Max because he hates dogs too. Oh no, Max. I think that's an honor, Max. I think you could spend that as being like, whoa, they value my opinion.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I mean, it just further cements me as such a fucking loser. But the problem is- I'm just a historic, historic loser. Here's the problem, Max, for you here. Picking Dallas is like, you have to pick the series. Some people pick Dallas. Some people pick the Celtics. I never think it's like, Oh, gotcha. You picked the wrong side. That's what we do. But typing out the Celtics are not beating Luca. That was also a game where I bet the timber. It was the game that the, the Mavs beatberwolves and I bet the Timberwolves big and I was so pissed off
Starting point is 00:56:08 I was like Luca is so fucking good. I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna spin this Into the Celtics are not the Celtics are not being Luca and that was that was very incorrect Damn, sorry that happened to you Yeah, I mean, it's whatever. Let's finish the video out That's and then watching this past week when Boston sweeps Dallas or something like that we got to sit here and be like well I guess we were wrong Mmm, no also one thing we didn't talk about got me scared first. Oh, yeah. No that was I was like I thought someone died Yeah, it's just our boy Max falling on his face yet again could be bad It's a you really could have just been like we need to make someone needs to remake that
Starting point is 00:57:00 The the video of the guy just fumbling all the Tupperware and everything. It just, that's Max. We should just do that video. Yeah. Just put a bunch of shit in Max's hands and have him make that for us. Max pooped his pants again. That's not really breaking moves. As you know, the sun comes up, Max does something to make him be a loser.
Starting point is 00:57:19 The sun goes down. There's no breaking moves in that. Hank's talking about like the, can't win the big one. I win the big one that'll be what are you gonna do it'll never I actually kind of want to see it no no no what are you gonna do you're max you're the producer of the show it is cool that like a team that just won the NBA championship are listeners and fans of yours right no I mean it's just that's cool thing that's a really That's a cool thing. That's a really cool thing. That's what I said. Ben Katz always said, if you're going to be wrong, be really, really...
Starting point is 00:57:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good point. At least I'm known for being very wrong and very much a loser with every sport that I root for. Right, you got aura. Yeah. I have losing aura. Heavy. I have heavy losing aura. You got Laura, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Okay, where were we I was being very very wrong about something well less miles hot seat. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, if they took away a hundred and eighty two of Nick Saban's wins. He would still have over 60% Okay, well, that's probably not gonna happen, but I tried but maybe but I tried the other hot seat is Justin Timberlake
Starting point is 00:58:25 No, got a DUI in the Hamptons. Oh, yeah, it's pretty bad pretty bad stuff They a picture came out of him in handcuffs being led out of the police station and then a bunch of old clips of him Saying like don't drink and drive came out. Oh Old takes exposed on that one And then he also he was complaining about Brittany and telling her she needs to stop drinking oh all those resurface too oh so it's tough it's tough for old JT don't drink and drive I also there's like no aren't there no roads there's like one road in the Hamptons can't he just get he should get a cab he should have a driver you get an uber he's gonna driver I don't
Starting point is 00:59:01 know why rich people don't have drivers yeah and I don't know why you don't call an Uber. This is viral marketing for Summerhouse, which, by the way, is an excellent show. I don't know if you've seen that. I haven't. It's terrible. It's actually the worst show I've ever seen,
Starting point is 00:59:13 but it's so bad that it's good. OK. I'll check it out. Yeah, so Justin Timberlake, Hot Seat. And then my cool throne is Notes apps. Because. Oh, yeah, I had this as well. Big day for Notes apps.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Big day. Rory McElroy gave maybe the most important notes app that we've all been waiting for. Everyone was like, he's going to apologize. He has to apologize. He gave a notes app apology without actually apologizing for anything. For the wheel spinning?
Starting point is 00:59:37 For the wheels. He did not apologize for the wheel spinning. What? He said, firstly, I'd like to congratulate Bryson. Yesterday was a tough day, probably the toughest I've had in my nearly 17 years as a professional golfer. Bryson is a worthy champion and exactly what professional golf needs right now. I think we can all agree on that.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Then he gets to, as I reflect on my week, I will rue a few things over the course of the tournament, mostly two missed putts on 16 and 18 in the final day. But as I always do, I'll look back at the positives that far outweigh the negatives. And then he goes on, doesn't apologize though. Doesn't apologize for not talking to the media. Doesn't apologize for almost hitting several spectators in the parking lot. Doesn't apologize for getting on a plane before Bryson got the championship trophy. So it's a no tap apology with no apology from Rory.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Damn. Still, you know it's serious when he's in dark mode I would have liked to see an apology about the wheels spinning specifically. Yeah in the in the tournament issue Lexus I feel like the dark mode was an intentional choice on his part to convey seriousness Yeah, if you just go normal daytime mode, that's more of a jovial notes app But yeah, he was trying to convey being apologetic without apologizing. So he might need to do a notes app for the notes app and say, I apologize for not apologizing, which would still
Starting point is 01:00:52 not be an apology. Wouldn't be an apology. For the original thing. Correct. I mean, a triple apology. We've all played golf in the last couple days. I feel like he is not going to. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Starting point is 01:01:04 PFT and I got up at 7 in the morning to play nine holes with Frankie Oh no but get I was 30 as well fine in consequence you and I got up at 530 in the morning I got up at 530 on Monday after we did the show late PFT got up at 530 after the NBA finals on Tuesday to do nine holes with our good friend Frankie Borelli coming out soon. Which I'm happy to do. Hank, you golfed for all of Monday. I was here Monday. We streamed last night. I was here for all the last person in this building last night. What time were you here till last night? Big cat. What time did you get to golf? What time did you wake up to go golf and did you play play 30 you only played nine holes? No, I played 18 or participate in the classic
Starting point is 01:01:48 I played so I'm not so was that was that for content. Yeah, I posted Literally were entertaining clients. Oh, I posted a video everyone made fun of me. How'd you play? I played not great Jake carried us nice trying lump regard that No, see that's where it's like inconsequential because all I was saying and because you guys also Maybe felt this is if I was Rory I don't think I would go for like a month like looking at a putt that's shorter than four feet is Actual PTSD for him. Well, yeah, he said in the note. Yeah, he's taking off until they go to Europe Shout out smiley for calling that Scott.'s not, he's going to pull out. By the way. Like did you guys have a putt where you're like, I can't, if I was
Starting point is 01:02:27 roaring like I would, I would be Hank. Like, yeah, I don't think I, I don't think a putt exists on planet earth that you could miss and then take three months off from golfing afterwards. If I lost the U S open cause of two, three footers, I, my hand up, I would take three months off. Wow. Um, by the way, we've been doing the show for so long. Did you know this, Hank? I fucked up on Sunday night. We had Smiley Kaufman on. Great interview. We've had him on before. I told you that. I forgot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I forgot. Yeah. It was like 2018 maybe? 17. 17? Earlier than that, yeah. Yeah, 17. That's my fault. He's going to be on again. Him and Ricky. Ricky gets no respect as one of the better interviews we had early on in this podcast. Yeah. Yeah, 17. That's my thought he's gonna be on again him and Ricky Ricky Ricky gets no respect as one of the better
Starting point is 01:03:05 interviews we had early on in this podcast. Yeah, he was great. All right, my hot seat is Linden Donovan mmm, Linden Donovan's hair at the Euros Holy shit, so I think he got a hair transplant and it didn't take well, I think it's a recent one Yeah, so it looks like his shoulders are eating the back of his head and he was told before he did it that he would not have that part of his head on TV, but then he turned to the side and Immediately everybody was like holy shit. What is wrong with Lana Donovan? I It's so bad. This is how bad if you miss the picture you can go look it up But I'll explain it to you if you're listening and not watching it is so bad I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I-I- or something? Did I fuck up? Because that's how bad his hair looks. Yeah, just wear a hat, Landon. It's the reverse mullet. It's horrendous. It looks like he went through a medical emergency.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It looks like he had said that he would shave his head if the Mavericks won the NBA Finals, and then after they won that game, he's like, okay, let's do this in steps. Yeah, I don't know how you come back from that. Hopefully with a full head of hair That would rock but now everyone knows too, but still I mean in this day and age. Yeah, just wear a toupee I don't understand what happened to toupees toupees and just daring people to say oh you're wearing a toupee would be so much fun Just rocking a terrible toupee if you're open about the toupee, right? Yeah fun. Just rocking a terrible toupee. If you're open about the toupee. Right. Yeah. If you're open about it. If I ever have male pattern baldness, I will rock a toupee and it will
Starting point is 01:04:48 be horrendous. And I dare you to say something. Yeah. It's a really, really bad... If you're... You know you're going to be on TV, just deal with one more week of having the shitty hair. Right. Or just shave your head and do schedule... You knew the euros were coming. Yeah. Schedule your hair transplant after. Yeah. All right, My Cool Throne is our guy, Joc. He released a great video. Can you play it for us, Max?
Starting point is 01:05:12 Congratulating Hank on his big win. He also was, I think, about to drown in the ocean when he posted this, but this is a congrats Hank video from Jerry O'Connell. Hanky, look who's back, Mr. Bing Bong. Congrats on your cell pics. Worst finals ever, sleepy finals. Sleepy Hank, Bing Bong.
Starting point is 01:05:37 Time to get back outside. In the waves, in the sun with the birds. I'm a birder, just like the high school science teacher, bing bong! Tweet tweet! Speaking of birds, Tiffany Gomez is flying the bird, she's a pilot! You could have been a co-pilot, but you blew it! You blew it! Even Belichick's got a girlfriend! Because her home word, bing bong, your backswing sucks! Wait now! Your backswing sucks. That felt unnecessary.
Starting point is 01:06:08 That was the only part of that where I was like, what the hell, Jerry? Even Belichick has a girlfriend. It's so good. So Jerry went to the beach to get away from his wife so she wouldn't know that he was recording this video. Yes. That's what I love about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:20 No, I think he was at the beach. He went in the water to get away from her. From his supermodel wife. Yes. They probably were at the beach. He went in the water to get away from a supermodel wife I see they're probably were at the beach as a family and he's like I gotta I'm gonna go in the water real quick Just do this video scream at my phone for 15 seconds. Oh, he's the best. We need it We need a Celtics Knicks series next year. Just fly him in for the whole thing Be great. Yeah It's so funny to think about Jerry like he's a real person who has a real job like on TV and
Starting point is 01:06:49 Just half his days like what is Tiffany Gomez saying and what what's let me listen to PMT This shows on CBS. Yeah, it's on national television. Yeah, his show is so funny, too Yeah, so funny. All right, Jake finish off hot seat cool Terrone my hot seat. Sorry PFT is Alex Ovechkin. No, he looks good Yeah, so there's a picture going around of OV playing The sport called Padel which is gonna be this future game that I take on you guys make fun of me for playing it's basically a mix of Paddle paddle. It's paddle. I've heard it's Padel.. Jake is right. It's Padel. There's Padel and there's
Starting point is 01:07:27 Padel. Yeah. There's a difference between Padel and Padel. I think so. Yeah. No. No. The same sport. Same sport. Oh no. This is the one with the glass walls. Not. Oh yeah. Not chain walls. I've played this sport and it was the glass walls. It was a chain. It was like a really tightly wound chain that it would bounce off of. Padel was a doubles game only in which it, yeah. Oh, that's a really mean tweet.
Starting point is 01:07:48 It says, breaking Alex Ovechkin is expected to replace Joey Chestnut in this year's hot dog eating contest. He looks like he was. Anyways, people are roasting him for looking big. Is there a chance that maybe he just didn't take off his pads after the last game? There is a chance that that happened.
Starting point is 01:08:01 There's also a chance that he's trying to get out of shape so he doesn't get drafted by Putin yep try to stay out of Ukraine I respect that he does look large he looks powerful that's that's a man that is that's old man strength though for the and that was taken before they started playing I don't know I would say after all four of them look pretty sweaty okay all right okay and my cool throne I think the first time this is ever on the cool throne, the New York Mets. Yes. Their season might have been
Starting point is 01:08:29 saved by a hero no one saw coming and it's Grimace, the McDonald's mascot. He threw out the first pitch last week. Since then, they're 6 and 0 and they are dominating. Yes. On the field. Mm hmm. The picture of Grimace is awesome. Grimace. It was a decent first pitch for a mascot. Yeah. I should have seen this coming, but I had to do the rundown today because the Celtics won,
Starting point is 01:08:52 so Dave texted Kevin and I, run down at 11, like first thing this morning, and the rundown ended, and Kevin and I were just talking about how the Cubs suck, and he's like, well, at least I have Grimace. And it was maybe the saddest conversation that's ever happened. I mean the Mets are only a game out of the wild card. Okay, I have a take real quick The Major League Baseball completely fucked up the playoffs with this wild card. It's so stupid.
Starting point is 01:09:15 It's not everyone's alive unless you stink. The Cubs are a bad baseball team. And they're two games out. And they're two games out. They're in last place in the NL Central And there are two games out you shouldn't there should not be a playoff spot for like you have to be There has to be a limit there has to be a you have fair if they didn't add the third They would only be three behind the Cardinals for the second wild card. It's just crazy. I don't know They're just not a good team and I look and I'm like, oh, well you can delude yourself I don't I don't like that that they did this in the NBA either. It's my biggest gripe about the play-in that you let owners get off on basically saying, well, we're putting together a playoff team when no, if you're a play-in team, you're
Starting point is 01:09:55 not like, it's just bullshit. I think that there should be a rule where if you're beneath 500, you shouldn't even be listed in the wild card possibilities. But you could just, owners get to sell their fan base on being competitive when they're not competitive. Here's the thing, though, in baseball, if you get into the playoffs, you do have a chance to win. Anything could happen. Yeah. Anything could happen. OK, let's get to our interview with Joe Mazzullo. We're going to get to Joe Mazzullo in a second. He's brought to you by Proper 12.
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Starting point is 01:10:50 Okay, we now welcome on a very very very special guest less than 24 hours After becoming a world champion. It is Boston Celtics head coach Joe Missoula Coach Oh Hanks clapping for you H's clapping for you. Hank's clapping for you in the room. Coach, let's start, I mean, just how are you feeling right now? I know that's the lamest question, but I have to imagine it's just the best feeling in the absolute world. Yeah, no, I definitely expected more from you for the first question. You know, I just, I'm really like gratitude. I
Starting point is 01:11:25 know it's a lame answer, but for me, it's a, hasn't really set in yet, I think because everything just happened so fast. We've got to go to a bunch of stuff. But I would say the first word is just, you know, being grateful. Uh, you know, never thought I would ever be in this position. And, uh, this great, like the type of players that we get the coach every day to type of people we get to be around. It's just an awesome experience. Yeah, I would imagine.
Starting point is 01:11:47 How is the knee feeling? Because I didn't know this. I don't know if it was public or not. I didn't realize you were coaching on a torn meniscus. How is it feeling, number one? And then number two, how did having a torn meniscus impact your coaching at all? Well, listen, that's what happens when you lose games in the regular season. Like, you're just not allowed to lose.
Starting point is 01:12:04 So after we lost to Atlanta at home, I went out on the mats, punished myself, and just pounded my body until it couldn't take anymore, and ended up just tearing my knee. So ended up being a great experience for me. I had to do like six hours of treatment in order to coast the next game without too much of a limp because I could not walk.
Starting point is 01:12:25 But I'll tell you what, it almost, it was one of the best things that happened to me for the rest of the season. Cause it put me in like this fight or flight mentality to where like I could just not relax. Like I had to constantly train to keep it pain three had to constantly get, uh, you know, physical therapy. I'm a physical therapist has been great. And, um, it was just, it was awesome. I've been thinking about maybe getting hurt every like all star break. Wait, hold on a second. So, so you could make the argument then the fact that you guys only lost three games in the entire playoffs, that that saved your life. Cause if you had gone to like a seven game series, you would have had to go to the mat after all of those times.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Like you, you would have had to go to the mat after all of those times. Like you, you could have died. Yeah, absolutely. I think the injury, the injury probably did save my life because I was getting carried away. So, uh, yeah, it's, I mean, your intensity is insane. It was cool though. Like it just brought a different level of focus that I had to have because like it's like, it's a, like a bucket handle tear and like it would lock and like click from time to level of focus that I had to have because it's like a bucket handle tear and it would lock and click from time to time. So I had to walk slower. I couldn't move certain ways.
Starting point is 01:13:31 So it really forced me to focus more. So actually I'm really grateful that it happened. So that definitely- I missed the mats though. Yeah. It impacted your shot blocking ability then, right? You're not able to go out on the court and swat anything away. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:44 I've always been a two foot block jumper, not a one foot jumper. And so I need that power from both of my quads to kind of explode out. And so now that I can only jump off my left, I wasn't able to elevate the way I needed to get those deflections and blocks. Yeah, so it's good to see you smiling.
Starting point is 01:14:01 I saw a Twitter thread last night of all the guys taking pictures with the Larry O'Brien trophy and the two pictures I saw of you, you were just not smiling. What was that? Is it like jobs not finished? I was really pissed because I feel like all the other teams have gotten a head start on getting better for next season. And like, you know, it's the middle of June and we're still focused on last season. So I had to get over that for a second, but once I was able to enjoy it, it was a great moment. Um, that thing's heavy, man. Yeah. Yeah. We're
Starting point is 01:14:34 talking with the tour meniscus. Yeah. We're talking to Hank earlier about the, uh, the banner situation, how you guys have a blank banner for the next one that hangs up. When you guys do the banner ceremony, are you just going to unveil a brand a blank banner for the next one that hangs up. When you guys do the banner ceremony, are you just going to unveil a brand new blank banner for next year? Sure. I mean, we should never we should act like it just didn't happen. Just don't even play anything up. Yeah. Yeah. It's gotta be a great feeling. So walk us through what happened after the game. What what do you do tonight after winning an NBA championship? This is like a lifelong
Starting point is 01:15:03 accomplishment. Did you take time to celebrate or were you just busy with other commitments till now? So what happened? So the corn goes off. You obviously they gather everybody around and find my wife and kids and like spend that time with them. And both my kids got to go on stage and it was awesome to see them. I got a couple of pictures of like their reactions. And then you go in the back and then
Starting point is 01:15:25 the locker room turns into a college 21, like an 18 and over nightclub. I felt like I was back in college again, so that was cool. I had to shower because I was drenched. And then I had to go to some media stuff. And then you go to an after party type thing, which we hung around. And then my wife and I stuck around and kind of just walked around the garden to just take in the confetti on the floor, visualizing the new banner being up, visualizing the old banner. There was like this blank, there's this blank place in the rafters that I would, every national anthem that I would visualize the 2024 one. And that started in the preseason.
Starting point is 01:16:10 And so we were able to just kind of pinpoint that and you just take in, you know, what, what the city brings, what the arena brings, everything that comes with, you know, being a Celtic. And last night was like the culmination of like, you see the shirt I'm wearing with like red and Bill Russell, like culmination of history, the culmination of like greatness that you the culmination of greatness that you get to be a part of now. Yeah, so I saw too on the whiteboard before the game you guys had flight at noon to Miami was I feel like you're a superstitious guy. That was not before the game. Oh, that wasn't before the game? No, no, that was before the game.
Starting point is 01:16:39 Okay, good. That was after the game. Okay, all right, because when I saw that I was like, no way did Coach Mazzullo let them do this before a closeout game. Okay, all right. Because I was like, when I saw that, I was like, no way to coach Mazzullo let them do this before a closeout game. All right. So you were still before the game, it was still jobs, you know, you guys better get ready. Let's go. No, absolutely. Yeah, no, that came on right after the game. Okay. All right. That's, that's fair. That's fair. What, uh, so you did, you're down in Miami now. What movie did you watch on the way down to Miami? Um, we, we didn't watch one. We had, we movie did you watch on the way down to Miami?
Starting point is 01:17:07 We didn't watch one, we had the Beats pill going and just had all the music, so just. Okay. But one of the things in the back locker room before games, all the coaches sit in the same room and each coach picks a different playlist and we just bump music back there the whole time, play a little soccer, listen to music. And so every player's got his, I mean, every coach has his favorite
Starting point is 01:17:26 song or favorite playlist. So we were in the coaches section just kind of going back and forth on all the songs that we listened to throughout the year. All right. So you haven't been able to watch the town as a world champion yet? Not yet. Okay, that's gotta be, are you gonna cry? Maybe like that's gonna be different.
Starting point is 01:17:41 So I actually watched the depart of the night before game five. And the quotes from that, like you can't really say those that much anymore but quotes from the department like it says every other line is something that you wish you could say out loud again. That movies I love that movie. So I watched that one before game five getting ready you know for for it and I haven't watched the town but someone asked me and my new favorite scene is when like they're, getting ready for it. And I hadn't watched the town, but someone asked me, and my new favorite scene is when they're about getting ready to rob Fenway, and he's like, you know this is gonna be hard, right?
Starting point is 01:18:13 And he's like, so easy kid, everybody would do it. Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, how was it for the team and for you after Friday night, after that, game four, which was, I mean, it was ass kicking, but you guys still had control of the series and you're going back home. Like, did you, was there, I would assume there's no panic, but that, that had to be at least a little shocking in the manner it happened. I think sometimes you lose perspective and like that loss allowed us to keep perspective. Like we had won 10 games a row in the playoffs, which like doesn't happen. We had only lost two playoff games up until that point. And, you know, I had really trusted our team because like they we bounced back from
Starting point is 01:18:55 like small adversities and small times of not playing our best. Like we did it. We had a game like that at Milwaukee. We had a game like that home against New York. I think we had two games. I think both games against Milwaukee game like that at Milwaukee. We had a game like that home against New York. I think we had two games. I think both games against Milwaukee were like that. So, you know, it wasn't no room for panic or anything like that. It was more kind of like, okay, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:19:14 why did this happen? And then really trust the guys because we've been able to bounce back before, but also just keep a perspective. Like what we've been able to do throughout the playoffs up to that point was really, really hard. And you just got to know that it's never going to be that easy, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:27 So would you almost rather get your ass kicked like that or lose a close one? No, I'd rather get my ass kicked than lose a close one. Yeah. Yeah. You lose a close one, guys play 40, 42 minutes. They're tired. You know, you got to travel back. Like, you know, you get blown out, take the guys out, they play 25 minutes, get the boys
Starting point is 01:19:44 some rest, and you know, kind of regroup the next out they play 25 minutes get the boys some rest and you know kind of regroup the next day that couldn't have worked out better for us. Yeah you were talking about soccer a second ago I read that you had Pep Guardiola in the stands and that you two have been you've been talking right? Yeah we've been friends for you know two years now he's a beast isn't he? Yeah he is so did he help you with anything? He did. So I think the way he... So if you don't... His story, he was the Barcelona's, lack of a better phrase, like JV coach.
Starting point is 01:20:15 And when they fired their first team coach, they promoted him from within. And he got the Barcelona job when it was at its prime. They had just come off a Champions League and instead of going out to get a bigger name, they got a guy like they got him, someone from the inside. And so I had always studied his career because that happened. And if someone hires from within of a company like that,
Starting point is 01:20:38 they're obviously a special guy. So, and they had so much success so fast. I think they won five trophies in their first year. They won 12 in the four years that they were there. And so a lot of our conversations were really built upon how he handled that first year, like how he handled success at such a young age as a coach, how he handled coaching Messi at such a young age and the other superstars that he had, how they gelled, and then how he's built long-term success at, you know at Manchester City. And so he was just able to give great perspective on greatness, how to start it, how to sustain it, and then how to handle the ebbs and flows of it
Starting point is 01:21:12 when it doesn't go your way. And then the way he coaches his teams, the tactical stuff, very, very similar. Yeah, yeah. So the loudest moment last night, other than the final buzzer, was when Peyton Pritchard hit the half court shot. At what point in the last couple of years did you realize that this is like a secret weapon that you can unleash on the other team? Because it was so funny watching from our perspective, you see Peyton get checked in and we're like,
Starting point is 01:21:45 well, he's going to hit this because that's what he's been doing. What, like, tell me how, when, when did that light bulb go off? Like, Oh, this is our end of half guy who can do this. So there's a stat around like when you don't shoot the ball at the end of the quarter, your percentage of winning goes down. And our player development coach who works with Peyton and Sam and some of the other guys, they study those types of stats because a lot of the bench guys, you have your second unit lineups are in at the end of the quarter.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Your star is usually on end at the end of the quarter. And so we were able to find those stats and our player development staff and Payton and Sam and those guys take great pride in those little details. And we were able to take advantage of that throughout the season. It's a credit to Peyton because it's the ultimate competitiveness, the ultimate humility to take that shot. And I promise you, and I said this to Peyton during the series, there's never a shot that he shoots that I don't think is going in because of his work ethic and because of his confidence. Every shot he takes, I think is going in, whether it's a layup, three pointer or from half court. Yeah, and a lot of guys I think don't like to take those shots because they're low percentage
Starting point is 01:22:55 shots for the most part, might impact the shooting percentage. And Peyton's just like, give me the ball, give me the rock, I'll do it. Yeah. This is what I do. I make these. We'll get back to coach in a second. He's brought to you by the global phenomenon known as house of the dragon. That's right. The HBO original series, house of the dragon is back. Prepare for a summer of dragons. The acclaimed series is returning.
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Starting point is 01:23:48 season two House of the Dragon is now streaming on Max. To go even deeper into the world of Westeros listen to the official Game of Thrones podcast on Max or wherever you get your podcasts. And now here's more coach. Settle the debate for us. Game four, if you guys were winning. And now here's more coach. Settle a debate for us. Game four, if you guys were winning. Yeah, here's the debate. So game four, if you guys are winning, would you have maybe put Chris Stops in just to let him be on the court for a clinching game? Because Hank here thought you were using Chris Stops as a human victory cigar, and that was the only way he was going to get back in the series. We would have used him in like one of four or five
Starting point is 01:24:27 different situations. So if there was a critical jump ball that we needed to win, there was a jump ball in our offensive possession, we would have put him in. If there was an end of game situation where he had to guard the rim or be over the ball to try to get a deflection. And yeah, if we were winning, I would have put him in the game for a minute or two. And, uh, just because you, like, he, he sacrificed his whole career,
Starting point is 01:24:51 Hank was right. Sacrifices his whole career to get to this point and to not be a part of it. I would have just devastated him. And like, he had a serious, serious injury and like he worked his ass off to get back. And like what he brought for us in game five was like unbelievable and, and really led to winning. And so then we have a guy in his career that's been through a lot and sacrificed a lot, like you want them to be a part of it. So yeah,
Starting point is 01:25:16 I would have used KP and game four under those circumstances. So it's nothing new for this show, but Hank was right. And, uh, Max, our producer, the Sixers fan who got upset at Hank for saying that was wrong. So another loss for Max. That's another loss for Max. I mean, Hank knows ball. What can I say? How bad was the injury? Was he, were the trainers saying like, you can't play on this? And he was like, no, I'm going to play. Uh, yeah. I mean, that's kind of how it was, but it was like, we don't know how long the series is going to go on for. Like, let's try to save him from himself because he was trying to play. So let's see if we can get through a game or two. And then like when it was game
Starting point is 01:25:51 five at home, it was like, Hey, like, you know, this might be it. Like I got to be out there. And so, you know, he was like, I'm playing. And so he, uh, overrode the medical team there. It was like, I'm playing and credit to him. Tough guy. So this might be a really dumb question. So I'm saying that in advance. Is there a small part of you that wishes that you had lost more games in the NBA finals? No, not even, not even a little part, not even a little bit where you're like, man, that would have been sick if we had gone down, if we had lost the first game and then we fought back. I mean, I do wish for things to be a lot harder, but no,
Starting point is 01:26:24 once we got to the finals, I was like, man, I'll take it easy way if we can. All right. Smart answer. Yeah. Yeah. You're getting soft. So his there was there.
Starting point is 01:26:34 I doubt last night you gave a speech, but after the parade on Friday is a Friday's the parade after the parade on Friday, will you get the team together and be like, Hey guys, fun's over. Time to get back to work. Um, well, some of our guys will play in the Olympics. Yeah. Um, but no, I won't do that. Okay. So you have gotten soft. You've gotten soft. I would love to. I mean, I was joking around in the locker room after yesterday. It's like, guys, we're behind here. Like, you know, every other team's been, they started workouts, individual workouts. We're still worried about last season. Yeah, you know, we're like, sounds good, but nobody cares. A week from now, be zero and zero. Yeah, who if you were to put odds on it, who do you think from the team is going to make the biggest splash at the victory parade? Who's going to be the one that we're going to get all the videos of and be like holy shit this person's having
Starting point is 01:27:25 The time of their life gotta be KP right yeah Yeah, I was thinking cornet. Oh, yeah, Luke cornet or or feet fees a wild card there Okay, Hank. Do you have any questions for coach Hank? Hank is just he's on cloud nine. He's a winner. Yeah That's a pretty arrogant stance right there. He's leaning back Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty arrogant stance right there. He's leaning back at his... Oh, no, I was just listening. I was taking it all in. I was taking it all in. Listen, he can't exist, coach. Coach, the earliest Hanks ever gotten into this office was this morning, just so that people would ask him about the game.
Starting point is 01:27:54 He was wearing head-to-toe Celtic skier, just walking around hoping people would bring it up. Hey, how long have you been a C's fan? I grew up in Massachusetts, so all my life specifically after 2008. I mean people You can't explain to people what it's like being a subject friend No, I loved your quote when you were talking the media saying, you know, it's when they were talking about people You know coming at you and the Jays and you said it's Boston. I wouldn't want it any other way. I grew up here I know what it's like When you obviously, you know wanted to be a head coach,
Starting point is 01:28:26 I think your old LinkedIn page is still active. I don't know if you saw that, but it had your kind of write up where it's like, I wanna help players, personal training, and eventually be a head coach. Was your dream to be a Celtics head coach, or was that something that was unfathomable at the time? So we had a prayer board that my wife and I put up
Starting point is 01:28:45 and it was only like, it was the Celtics. It was like, be a head coach for the Celtics. We were very, very specific. I actually had this vision board that a friend of mine worked on and the three things on there were the Larry O'Brien trophy, the Celtics logo, and then a picture of Brad because I wanted to work for Brad.
Starting point is 01:29:02 I wanted to work for the Celtics and I wanted to win a championship with the. I wanted to work for the Celtics and I wanted to win a championship with the, you know, two religion of Brad and for the Celtics. And those three things have been on there for like 10 years. What was the what was the biggest thing that helped you break through into like getting to Brad Stevens? Like, how did you make that happen? What was the biggest part of that that led to you even getting in the in the door? So he is actually a funny story.
Starting point is 01:29:27 We played against what we played in the same Final Four. And the point guard at for Butler at the time was Ron Norad. And he had just left the Celtics to go be an assistant at Northern Kentucky and Northern Kentucky and like Fairmont, where is relatively close. And they were both D2. So we were kind of recruiting the same type of guys, even though they were getting ready to go D1. And I kind of knew of him and he had just left the South Dix to go to NKU.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And I walk under the basket and I'm like, you just did the dumbest thing I've ever seen in coach. Just left the South Dix to go to wherever it was that you were. And we kind of struck a relationship from there. And long story short, he tried to hire me in Brooklyn when he got the G League head job, didn't work out. And then he kind of made a call for me. And so that's kind of how I ended up in Maine was, you know, door closed in Brooklyn. He made a couple of calls with some people and then I was able to get in in Maine and
Starting point is 01:30:19 get under the Celtics kind of franchise from there. Yeah. I mean, your story is incredible. And the,. They were showing it last night that you were coaching high school and then the main Red Claws a few years ago. When do you think this will set in that you are an NBA champion head coach? It's awesome. Yeah. It's funny. People say enjoy it. It's different, like people say enjoy it and I don't really like that is different for different people. So I don't really know yet. I think the biggest thing is making sure you don't change. Like you don't like become too much of an asshole. Yeah. More than I already am. So you try to just stay consistent, I think is important. You try to not to skip steps in the process. So like you got to
Starting point is 01:31:00 coach the same way. And I think it would be more like how you treat people. Like I think it's from, that's how I really want to make sure that I just continue to try to treat people the right way and not like, because just because you win this doesn't mean you're better than other people. You know what I mean? Like there's plenty of great people and coaches that have done great things and they haven't won. So just because you win doesn't mean you're better. And so I think the important thing is like recognizing that and kind of staying in your lane, you know? It does mean that you were better this year.
Starting point is 01:31:26 For one year. Yeah, yeah, you were literally better. But I mean, over the course of like, you're not better than other people. Right, right, right. But you should at least acknowledge that you were better this year. Yeah, we were.
Starting point is 01:31:38 We were a better team this year. Yes, yes. You can't run from that. You can give yourself that. Hank, we were talking about the Boston media. So one of the scenes me and Tatum kind of watched because we both like the
Starting point is 01:31:50 Dark Knight and the Dark Knight Rises. So like when we were working on like, okay, you know, this is how we're going to handle like expectations, pressure. Like this is what we need to do. So we're watching a scene where Batman goes into the interrogation room with Joker and like they're talking and Batman's like,
Starting point is 01:32:06 why do you wanna kill me? And the Joker starts laughing at him. He's like, I don't wanna kill you. He's like, I need you. He's like, you complete me. And it was like the coolest moment of like, good and evil has to coexist. Differences have to coexist in order to bring the best
Starting point is 01:32:22 out of each other and the people around you. So like, Dark Dark Knight great movie Yeah, great movie. You were so you're watching Batman with Jason Tatum. That's interesting. Just a scene That's why I'm here. Sorry, but sort of the clip. Okay, on it interesting who it between Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown who's Batman? Who's the Joker? I want to be the Joker. Okay, the Joker. Okay. So wait, is there any other options? No, just Batman and Joker. I think they're the only two ones. Yeah We have two Batmans and I'm the Joker. Two Batmans and the Joker. So
Starting point is 01:32:52 Batman's win easy. If two Batman's against the Joker. I Don't know the Joker's willing to like the issue with Batman is is like he's not willing to do whatever it takes Like he there's like that's the scene where he has a chance to throw them off the cliff at the end of the second one and he doesn't do it. He saves his life. And so like the scary thing about Batman was like, is he willing to go the extra mile to do what's necessary for the greater good? Yeah. That sounds like some summer motivation for, for both your guys. And like, that's the danger part of Joker is like, he's willing to go the extra mile
Starting point is 01:33:25 to get his coin across, whether it's like healthy or not, which, you know, it's not. But like, Batman's not willing to go the extra mile. Oh, yeah. That's a good point. You are the Joker in that relationship. Yeah. Yeah, so Jalen and Jason will listen to this and be like, wow, so we have to... We have to kill Coach.
Starting point is 01:33:42 We just were told that we have to go the extra mile and kill Coach. You'd probably like that, you sick fuck. So we have to we have to kill. We're told that we have to go the extra mile. Yeah. You'd probably like that. You sick. Derek, your motivation heading in the next season. We got to kill Joe. Derek White and and his teeth. I thought it was it was an all time like almost a hockey guy moment on the basketball court. The smile after the game was was very funny.
Starting point is 01:34:03 Did he is he get his teeth fixed before the parade or is he just going to enjoy this time? Hopefully he has time. I mean, we got to Miami here, so he's not going to have time today. I mean, that's his fault. You shouldn't have gotten hurt. He knows that he knows that. Yeah, the floor is right there. It's a big floor. Watch out for it. Yeah. Don't have time to get hurt in the end game five. Yeah. Oh, man. So we had a hurt in the end game five and a files. Yeah. Oh man Uh, so we had a couple last questions. Thank you so much for joining us I know that you got a million things to do to do it during the playoffs, but I i'll do this
Starting point is 01:34:34 When i'm done, I was gonna come hang out with you guys. Yeah Well, that was the last time we talked was right before the bulls played in their playing game And we were making plans for you to come and tap us out if the Bulls had gotten into the playoffs. So I hope that still stands, that when you're back in Chicago, you can- I'll be there. Yeah, we can get the mat out. Hank, we had Derek and Peyton Pritchard on
Starting point is 01:34:57 in February, I believe, and Hank said that he was gonna shave his head if you guys win the title. He said when they win the title. When they win the title. So how long do you think Hank has to make good on this? 24 hours. Oh!
Starting point is 01:35:10 Wow, and that's from Coach Joe Mazzulla. Well, I was thinking, cause I wanna, I wanna- 24 hours being any of your words. To commemorate, well to commemorate the bet, I'm gonna do it banner night. I'll be in the building. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:35:22 No, cause then we're on the next season. Wait, Coach, yeah. Cause then now people like you, Hank, no. No, because then we're on to next season. Coach, yeah. Because then now people like you, Hank, will be the reason why we struggle next year. We're trying to get ready for the next season. Oh, that's a great point, Coach. I mean, this is coming straight from Coach. He just won you a title and you're going to go against what he wants here?
Starting point is 01:35:41 People like you. 24 hours, Hank. 24 hours. What do you say to that. 24 hours, Hank. 24 hours. What do you say to that? Come on, Hank. You can do both? Well, you know what?
Starting point is 01:35:50 I think, let's give him a little leeway here. Let's say until the parade is over. Okay, that's fair. All right, so you have till Friday afternoon. Friday afternoon, because after the parade's over. Right, we turn the page. It's next season already yeah yeah so yeah we don't need hank you know putting out things about last year during that banner night
Starting point is 01:36:10 like next season right looking back yeah you're still celebrating what happened already summer summer of hank just took a twist oh he's mad no but he has to listen to his coach you have to listen to you're the one guy who can tell him what to do. Hey Hank, whatever it takes, however long it takes. Yeah, I guess I'll be at the parade with a shaved head. Oh, Hank is so, you're so angry right now. Oh no, no, no. Hank, it would be an honor for me to shave my head if any of my teams won a championship. Yeah. I mean, Hank, I think this is a huge moment for us because you're going to lead the charge on, like, OK, we won. Now it's like the next.
Starting point is 01:36:50 We've got to get ready for the next thing. I think you shaving your head is the beginning of us turning the page to get ready. The longer you play that, the longer we're living in the past. The 24, 25 Celtic season basically hangs in the balance with Hank's head. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Yeah, All that we're building to stay present and not focus on the past. All right. All that hair that's growing out of your head Hank. That's last season's hair. Yeah. That's got to do all new hair. All right. Yeah. We'll see you Friday coach. You bring one of those videos for me. I like those. Yeah. Yeah. I'll hand deliver them. Are you going to the parade? I am now. I mean I. All right. Maybe we get Hank, maybe we get Hank to an after party with the shaved head. We figure that out. No. Okay. That's a good, that's a good deal. Hank. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what if that's what, yeah. How bad do you want to win? I bet. I'm ready.
Starting point is 01:37:39 I'm ready for 19. I'm ready for 19 too. Yes. Yes. This is a great twist. I love this because he was trying to weasel his way out of it, but he can't anymore. Oh, when the minute we- Set to rights. The minute that the coach said he could come on, I was like, this is the one guy that I know, if he says it to Hank,
Starting point is 01:37:56 Hank cannot go against it. He just put the alpha male challenge on you. Yeah. And I'm going to answer the bell. He put you in the box. That's what it's all about, Hank. Coach, what you should do is you were talking about having to maintain the same guy that you were before you won the championship moving forward. You were talking about how nice your house is and how you were thinking maybe you had to destroy it. You got to destroy part of your house.
Starting point is 01:38:17 Throw it down. Throw it over again. All right. So last question. This has been so much fun. Thank you so much coach for joining us. It's a row back question. R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q zips polos hoodies joggers shorts row back dot com promo code take. Are you going to allow yourself to maybe buy something or go on a vacation? Like you got to give yourself something right. So I mean I'm gonna take my my youngest to Disney World. Okay. You know he's at he's seven so he's at the age where I mean that's gonna be fun. Yep. Going to the Olympics to see some of our guys. Okay. And then this is our 10 year wedding anniversary. So we're gonna plan a trip for my wife. You know, I'm like to consider myself the more romantic type as she laughs in the background. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Yeah. What's more romantic than a little Olympic basketball? Who are you telling? What's more romantic than being in the garden every night? Yeah. I mean, you're, well, she can decide you should give her the choice Olympic basketball or Disney world on the way up here. I mean, you're, well, she can decide, you should give her the choice Olympic basketball or Disney world. On the way up here, I was holding the trophy and I was like, can we sleep with this one night? Yes. Can the three of us hang out? Yeah. So what is protocol with the trophy? Do you get, do you get like a loan time with the trophy? Does it get passed around like the Stanley cup? Uh, I mean, some of the guys have been hogging a little bit, which they should be. So, I mean, I had my time. I got a couple of pictures with it. I'd be able to kiss, but it just
Starting point is 01:39:47 kind of passes itself around. Yeah. I would, I would just, I would be a hog of that trophy. Yeah. Well then the other, the other one I was supposed to, I am, I got to figure out when I'm going to go to Jerusalem. Yeah. I got to go back there. Yeah. All right. So my last, last question, uh, Al Horford, we're talking about him. Did you have any moments with him after where like, you know, I mean, he's been in the league forever and this is just an unbelievable moment for him. There's a guy that I don't think is a better guy in the league. He's awesome. So the moment I got to be on stage was me and my son, him and his son and his, his wife and just all
Starting point is 01:40:23 the work. Like you could just see like he's more of a guy where he doesn't say as much. You could just see it on his body, see on his face. You could see it by his energy. It was just a really cool moment for him to sacrifice everything that he has to be on stage there and get that. That was awesome. Yeah. There's a lot of forever grateful for him.
Starting point is 01:40:41 Yeah. You guys were a very easy team to root for. I do think that there was a part of you deep down inside that was like one more loss would have been nice. Just if you give us two games to overcome adversity. Just two. Yeah, four to two.
Starting point is 01:40:55 That's all you need. Well, congratulations, coach. Yes. Congratulations. You made a lot of people very happy, and we're very happy for you. And you made us very happy for making Hank shave his head. Yep.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Oh dude, yeah. And Hank, thank you for setting the example for what it means to be all in on winning and staying process oriented, not focused on the past, but just kind of worrying about what's next. So I really appreciate you doing that for us. Thank you, coach. I'd die for you. I'll see you Friday.
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Starting point is 01:42:08 I don't have a fellow billy football by my side. Or a snuggling partner. Or a professional cuddler. Yeah, the cuddler was great. That was a great moment. Yeah. But yes, you're here. I'm here to make an announcement.
Starting point is 01:42:22 It's an announcement that is, I think what we all would have agreed was inevitable at some point. And I think after talking with you guys, now makes the most sense. And the fact of the matter is this is going to be my last episode on part of my take. What? Why didn't you tell us till right now? We've actually been talking about this for like four or five months. Yeah, so it's been an ongoing discussion We love having you on the show Jake you're a big part of the part of my take story
Starting point is 01:42:55 It feels it does not feel like how many years is five years. It doesn't feel like it's been five years Which is what I would call wild it is wild so more than more than half the show, which is crazy to think about. And we're very glad that you're part of the story. And you're going to continue to be. And me and Big Cat have always said, one day you're going to go try to do live broadcasts. And we're going to wish you the best. And we're going to be firmly in your corner. And that's very, very true to this day. I wish you the best and we're going to be firmly in your corner. And, uh, and that's very, very true to this day. Like I, I wish you the best career possible.
Starting point is 01:43:29 I hope one day you're calling a Superbowl that we're watching and losing bets on. Yeah, that would be the best case scenario. You guys are winning and then blaming you for losing our bets. Yeah. So we can get into the details. So there's no speculation. I know a lot of people might be surprised. A lot of people might not be just based on how closely they follow me My career in the show, but basically one of the biggest Dominoes for this happening right now is that the direction that bar still is going in live Broadcasting rights are no longer priority for this company and that's not a secret
Starting point is 01:44:01 You've talked about it Dave talked about it and obviously that was my bread and butter here. That's where I thrive the most. I mean, I'm so fortunate that I got the chance to call multiple bowl games on national television, college basketball, hockey, professional golf that led to those PGA Tour events from the connections I made there. When you guys hired me as an intern five years ago to mock Darren Ravel, I never thought any of that was remotely possible. I was just here to say yes to whatever you guys wanted to prove that I was a hard worker and had this great opportunity on this massive platform. But, it might get emotional. It's okay.
Starting point is 01:44:42 Yeah. The fact that- Here, I'll help lighten the mood. Yeah, yeah. Remember how bad your handshake was? Yeah, climb your hands. It's okay. Yeah. The fact that- Here, I'll help lighten the mood. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember how bad your handshake was? Yeah, climbing hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I watched it back the other day and something that stuck out is,
Starting point is 01:44:53 one of you guys asked me, where do I see myself in five to 10 years? And without hesitation, I said, I wanna be a national network playboy, play broadcaster. That brings us to now, and that is where I'm going all in on. I've been all in on it for a while There's a reason why I don't curse on the air
Starting point is 01:45:08 There's a reason why ray allen tweet i'm not going to do the rate alan tweets because when I was making this inevitable jump It's so that I have no regrets I have nothing to hide And I am so proud of what i've done here in the five years I've accomplished a lot thanks to you guys. And it has been an incredible ride, but doing it right now, making this jump, we all agree, it makes the most sense
Starting point is 01:45:35 because it's the beginning of the summer. It's kind of like the off season in sports and broadcasting, right? So if I make myself publicly fully available right now, best case scenario, I'm in the booth calling college football this fall. Is that gonna happen? So if I make myself publicly fully available right now, best case scenario, I'm in the booth calling college football this fall. Is that gonna happen? Is that reality?
Starting point is 01:45:50 I don't know. But the odds are going to increase by making this jump right now. Right. And we did start having these conversations back in February and March. So it's not a sudden thing. I was joking when I said, wait, what? What did you tell us right now? And we, back in February and March. So it's not a sudden thing. I was joking when I said, wait, what?
Starting point is 01:46:05 What did you tell us right now? And back in February and March, we basically were like, what is the best way for you to make this jump? And this was always, hey, the NBA finals is a good spot where you can have the summer, and you can try to hopefully get something in broadcasting. And I'll say this right now, anyone who wants to hire Jake, you're gonna hire someone who works his absolute ass off.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Sorry for swearing. It's okay. Who's committed and he does everything the right way. And you will always, if anyone hires Jake, you will have our support, Jake, you will have the AWL support. We want to see you have all the success in the world and it's one of those bittersweet moments where it's like having you on the show for five years, which is more than half of the
Starting point is 01:46:58 history of the show, has been awesome. Watching you grow into what you are and adapt and have to go with the flow more has been very funny and enjoyable. And I know you've grown as a person. And I do think that you will be a better broadcaster for everything you did here. I also think that you added a lot to everything we've done in the last five years.
Starting point is 01:47:21 And I'm excited for you, because I do think that, you know, it's scary. It's very scary. It's scary to take a lead. I'm not gonna lie, I'm scared. There is no clear cut plan for what's next. Right. But we've been talking, you guys have been amazing with your help in trying to make that a reality.
Starting point is 01:47:37 So the plan is I'm gonna leave Chicago. I'm gonna go back home to South Florida as I try to figure out the next step. I think we all agreed that I don't regret. I'm so happy I gave Chicago a shot, but I moved here mostly because I wanted to be part of the team, part of you guys. So I feel like still being in the mix here, it might just get a little weird. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:59 So yeah. Yeah. I mean, I really do. I think it's the right time in your life, in the move. It's just like, I want to see you fulfill your dreams. And we had this conversation that it's like, as much as we love having you on the show, there's always gonna be a foot in, foot out
Starting point is 01:48:17 that makes it difficult for you to go all the way in and be available all the time where someone can be like, oh, we wanna hire Jake to do this. You always were, testament to you. You always thinking the show first. Now you should be a little more selfish and think Jake first. And I, I'm, I'm excited and I truly love you. And I, you're always have a home here and you always have our backing 100%. Whenever you're on TV, whatever events you're doing, I know you're, you're doing some PLL stuff. Yeah. I have a few PLL assignments this summer hopefully there's some more PGA
Starting point is 01:48:48 on the table as well and like I said perfect world the fall comes around there's a million college football teams and games out there and networks hopefully you know you guys gave me the shot of a lifetime no pun intended five years ago you really did this is such an impossible business. It is so hard and so competitive, and you have to think of ways to get really creative to stand out, and you guys gave me that opportunity, and like I said, I'm proud of what I did
Starting point is 01:49:17 with this opportunity. I have zero regrets, and now I'm just looking for someone else to give me my next shot in the booth the same way you guys did. And you'll get one you'll get one and You're you're very good at what you do And you put a lot of work into it and like big cat said whoever is out there if you're listening this show and you're thinking
Starting point is 01:49:35 Well, I've got you know, I've got this one open spot for a game We don't have anybody lined up just yet or if there's a big route Whatever the case may be if you're listening to this Jake Marsh will be the best worker that you'll ever hire. Yeah. And he won't do the Ray Allen tweet. I won't do the Ray Allen tweet. And again, I could have caved just to make you guys happy. But now there is nothing I regret.
Starting point is 01:49:58 Did not do Ray Allen. I'm doing the day. Okay. What if he hold on, hold on. Yeah. What if, what if CBS calls you is like, Hey, We want you to be part of college football this fall, okay, but we need you the Ray Allen tweet But I have the job. Yeah, and I like that's for life. Well not for life. I Mean as long as it wouldn't gotta be ready for this shake. They might throw this out at you then I'll do it
Starting point is 01:50:22 You do that's the reason I'm not doing it. It's not because like I'm against what it says. Yeah. Oh, yeah Yeah, like that's go That's the only reason i'm not doing it you're on his multiple positions you're also getting a guy that can lay the pipe No, but in all seriousness like I know my role on the show. I know i'm a very small part of it But it's been a major part of my life and I owe you guys Forever and this is not no no I I really mean that like no, but you gave us stuff, too So it's not it's a we all won with our relationship and our relationship isn't over like I said Yeah, you're always a friend of the show and always have a home here, and then we'll always be rooting for you
Starting point is 01:51:04 So and spotlighting whatever you're doing next so that's that's never gonna change. Yeah and it is worth mentioning for the next few months you two, Dave, Hank, we've come to the agreement that I'm still gonna be employed by the company and I'm really fortunate for that opportunity I'm still gonna be active on social media writing writing blogs for the website, still making golf videos, hopefully hit another hole in one on camera. First one. Second one.
Starting point is 01:51:29 So I'll still be around the next few months, but it's all systems go. I'm looking for a full-time broadcasting job, and hopefully it happens sooner rather than later. I love it. I think you'll get there. And when you're on TV, we will make sure to let people know so that they can follow you.
Starting point is 01:51:44 Also, just follow Jake'll get there. Yeah. And when you're on TV, we will make sure to let people know so that they can follow you. Also just follow Jake on social media. Yeah. You guys are letting me keep that Twitter account too, which is huge because it was- If you do the Ray Allen tweet. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:56 Yeah. They'll know where you're at. Yeah. But we will also remind people once you're on TV, because you will be on TV. Yeah. If you go on a game and we'll say, with great pride, there's and I and I'm going to I'm going to root so hard for a score. Gummy. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm sorry. I'll read the first score only when Jake's on the score. Gummy I'll FaceTime you this year. That would be cool. Yes. I'm calling NFL. All right.
Starting point is 01:52:18 All the years. Yeah. Well I will be I will be mad at you if you like do a call on a game that I'm gamma. You'll hear from me. You text me your best. Oh no, you'll hear from me. I know it's over. That's your system. What? Oh, if I'm watching. Yeah, yeah. No matter what.
Starting point is 01:52:32 That is true. One of my system. What were you going to say, Hank? Have you given any thought to the at name change? So PFTN, I talked about this beforehand. I'm down to keep it indefinitely. Maybe there's probably a time where it will be appropriate to change it I think at some point you should change you don't need to change it just yet but yeah some point you should yeah I think that would be a cool little thing for the AWLs you might want to change it for yourself yeah maybe you can also just put you know that you were the PMT sportsman I mean that's up to you I might change put in my alum like I might buy a part of my take alum right
Starting point is 01:53:03 right exactly because you might want to be like hey I would like to be there that's what we talked about too is I'm not technically I am technically leaving the show but I'm kind of graduating yeah and I still have the ties permanently to part of my take which I'm so proud of and you're like the safest bet that you won't do anything bad that will make us be like wait we're not associated with I don't think we would give that to anyone else Yeah, I would keep the handle for now if you want yeah But then yeah change it because you gotta you gotta go out there on your own
Starting point is 01:53:32 And this is something that you're doing and it's gonna be this is gonna be Jake Marsh on TV It's not gonna be part of my take on TV because right on the other end of it There are certain networks that might not want Part of my take that's right as the host of whatever show yes, yeah Because on the other end of it, there are certain networks that might not want part of my take as the host of whatever show it is. Yeah, you got to spread your wings at some point, but there's no rush on that. What are you, last thing, who's going to do some of the tasks you did? Should we give it like, who's going to do-
Starting point is 01:54:00 Nerd nugget, oh my God. I think you can take nerd nugget. No. Yeah. You can take nerd nugget. No Yeah, okay, you could tell you but like reminders I still have funny reminders I can still tweet you guys when they pop up Yeah, or you could I would like to see someone fail at this maybe pug Maybe pug has to do the reminders cuz he he'll just be like I'm such a bitch I was supposed to remind you this a month ago and I forgot. Whatever.
Starting point is 01:54:27 I have a few I think. Can you just tell Pug right now? Give us two that you got off the top. Yeah, I'm looking. Quick reminders. This is, what were you going to say, Max, did you have anything to say? Yeah, no. It's a sad day.
Starting point is 01:54:46 I know I was only joined with you in this booth for a couple months, but it always hurts to lose a member of the team. And we're going to miss you back here. This is a good one. Yeah. And again, I thank you guys, but the two of you and Hank, you gave me a break that I never saw coming. I never saw my career going in this direction,
Starting point is 01:55:07 but I'm so happy and glad it did. And I learned so much about myself in this building. The first day you guys told me, you have to grow thick skin. It's the only way to survive here because of the massive platform. And I can say I've certainly done that. Yes, absolutely. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:23 I think you've gotten, it's crazy to think about the changes and they're all been great. Yeah, so thank you guys. The four guys behind the glass are, with no doubt, the hardest working crew in sports media. Well, Hank is behind the glass right now. I forgot Hank was there. Hold on, you didn't mean Hank.
Starting point is 01:55:43 Jake, if you were in Hank's. Yeah,, you mean Shane, pug, max and memes. Well, Hank sitting right there. What I was going to say is be careful. He's got golf coming up. Not a lot of people know this. These guys are pulling nearly all nighters to nights a week. Yeah, that's insane. We finished recording at two or three AM and we wake up, we go home at midnight. They're here till four in the morning. We wake up three hours after they go to sleep and all the clips are done. The YouTube is up.
Starting point is 01:56:11 It's just, you actually should, you need to text us in the fall and tell us what it's like getting your Sundays back. Oh my God. That is going to be interesting. That's the one thing where I'm like, Oh my God. It'd be like every weekend feels like a holiday. Yeah. I don't, I actually think about that like the day. Yeah, it's higher where it's like Oh wait, I can watch football on my couch and then go to sleep. Yeah after Sunday football. That's crazy. Yeah
Starting point is 01:56:34 But yeah, thank you to you guys. Thank you to the producers and thank you to the AWLs you guys every single in-person interaction I've had with you guys has been remarkable. You're the most loyal in-person interaction I've had with you guys has been remarkable. You're the most loyal, passionate fan base in the world, really more than any other sports team I think because these guys live and die by everything we say. They know every little detail about us, what we talk about on the show, and it's just so cool. I think Ole Ler's fan base is pretty good too though. I have a limited amount of interaction, but from what I remember they're pretty strong. Yeah, but I- A lot of heart. A lot of heart. Big big hearts. Yeah. The same way my relationship with you guys in this room is not going to change I hope to continue making relationships
Starting point is 01:57:16 with AWLs around town and seeing all of them and talking about PMT and talking about sports. I just think it's such a cool dynamic and connection that you really can't find anywhere else. You know, it'd be a very funny twist if Jake wrote a tell-all book about PMT. Oh. There's really nothing I can think of. That would be a... Just be like, what, we order for dinner on Sunday?
Starting point is 01:57:36 Yeah. Surprising. But Jake, we love you and best of luck. And I look forward to seeing you do great things. Yes. Thank you guys. Flourishing. It's a scary time, but it's an exciting time. I told you from day one, it's the good will hunting.
Starting point is 01:57:50 Then one day I hope you're just like, hey, I'm going out. And I'll be like, that's great. Leave us fucking idiots to here. You guys are not idiots. You're just sitting here being idiots and losing our money. Geniuses when it comes to sports media success. I don't know. The G word is not correct. Yeah. But but you want you take back the Hank hard-working
Starting point is 01:58:08 Hank's hard-working for what my first yes. He was pulling all-nighters. I'd walk in on Monday morning. He's sleeping on the green couch That's just cuz he was tired Yeah from staying up all night editing the podcast yeah, but then he was very cool. He was the first of our group to retire He's in retirement. No Basically, but Proud of myself for not crying cuz I yeah. No, that was big. I was gonna cry. That was huge You didn't I didn't you want to? No, okay
Starting point is 01:58:39 Time to cry later. Yeah, I think I'm like Sunday night's gonna be weird Yeah, but I feel like you might you gonna be weird. Yeah. But I feel like you might, you might be like, this is kind of raw for brunch. Yeah. Yeah. Because it was college and then I had one year in between and then here. So like my post-grad life, all but one year has been here. Yeah. Sundays, Sundays are a big part of that, but I wouldn't change a thing and it's awesome. Yeah. Well, we love you, Jake. We always love you. Best in the office. Yeah. Best one here. Yeah. That was a great handshake. That was a great memory. It was a great handshake.
Starting point is 01:59:11 Yeah. Yeah. You're the best. And yeah, we will always be team Jake. And like I said, you'll always be a part of this. And whenever you're back in town, you come by and say hello. And I guess we got to do numbers, huh? Are you going to get this? This would be an all timetime walk-off. Yeah. An all-time walk-off. What?
Starting point is 01:59:29 I feel weird. Like, what if someone else wins? It feels weird. This would be awesome if Max won this one. Oh. Yeah. I want to give Jake my number. Yeah, I want to give Jake my number.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Should we all give Jake our number? Wait. Why? I already have a win. Because this would feel so weird if I won right now. Max, you just said you'd give Jake your number like your numbers gonna win that's true like come on no we gotta be men about it and and and if anyone steals Jake moment be a man about it okay I think we should I think we
Starting point is 01:59:57 should retire number 18 no no that kid no he's trying to. He's chances. And how about this entire team but throw in a one oh one. Oh so it's still a hundred. Eighteen could just be one oh one. When 18 hits it's one oh one. We'll put 18 up in the rafters. Jake when 18 hits it's one oh one. Great. Yeah. All right. Numbers eight.
Starting point is 02:00:20 Eighteen three fifty six. I should have said eighty one eighty one. You already said fifty six. 823 56 81 You already said 56 whatever 96 all right. I'll say 56 What would you pick a 99? 97 shame what was it? 21 chain tried to give me a bacon wrap 21. Shane tried to give me a bacon wrap plantain off his fucking gross ass plate. I was so confused why no one was eating it. Weirdo Shane. See this is what you're leaving us
Starting point is 02:00:53 with, Shane. You're leaving us with weirdos like Shane. I'm a weirdo. How would you have a more Shane? I'm a weirdo. Shane's never eaten a banana till today. Yeah. He actually told me the other day that the first grape that he had was last month That's wild one great one single grape. He has crazy 99 Moment pog god damn it. How could you now? I'm definitely not sharing those reminders God damn it. How could you? Now I'm definitely not sharing those reminders
Starting point is 02:01:30 You this is for Jake to the role of a son of a bitch The whole squad numbers on fire on fire no sense of the moment pug yeah, goddamn This is Jake's 99 to all of our no no it's your 99 pug. All right, it's mine, but How many how many that's like four is that for damn pub all right, I think we should I think we should let Jake's No, this is no no. No, I don't want it. I don't want it Jake. I'm passing the rock to you I love on Jake. Love you, Jake Love you, too. Love you guys I'm getting there when you masturbate, think about my tongue. Oh, your clit and switching back and forth. Switching back and forth from my dick to my tongue.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Dick to my tongue. Dick to my tongue. Dictamatom Dictamatom Switching back and forth from a dictamatom I'm getting there when you must be thinkin' bout my tongue Oh, your clit ends, switching back and forth Switchin' back and forth from my dick to my tongue Dick to my tongue, dick to my tongue Dictamata Dictamata Dictamata Switching back and forth
Starting point is 02:03:13 From a Dictamata Thanks for watching!

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