Pardon My Take - Celtics HC Joe Mazzulla, NBA Play In Games, Who’s The Next “Can’t Win The Big One” Guy + Guys On Chicks And The Year Of Junk Science

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

NBA Play In games and the Magic and Warriors are officially in (00:00:00-00:17:20:25). Nico Harrison does a no camera/no recordings press conference and Cam Ward admits he’s a Tennessee Titan (00:17:20-00:25:24). With Rory winning the Masters we find the next narrative guy who can’t win the big one (00:25:24-00:51:32). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a wild Paige Bueckers tweet and Colorado retiring Travis Hunter and Shedeur Sanders numbers (00:51:32-01:15:34). Celtics Head Coach Joe Mazzulla joins the show before his team’s title defense to talk new motivation tactics, could he fight Jayson Tatum, Hank’s invite back, and tons more (01:15:34-01:53:31). We finish with guys on chicks and a dive into junk science (01:53:31-02:12:05).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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The crown is yours today is Wednesday April 16th and the Orlando Magic and Golden State Warriors are officially in the playoffs. Congrats to that. Congrats to that. Congrats to Jay, but play in Jay. Yeah, Jimmy playing him. He'll play in him. He I like that. Yeah, he went off tonight. That was that was a fun game. I liked watching the Warriors and the Grizzlies bad part about the playing tournament is you don't get to develop a sense of a series out of it because I would like to see these two teams play.

But yeah, I'm anti-playing game, but that was a fun game. Also for anyone who's watching on on YouTube. We are all at our own homes to get the play in. We wanted to watch the play in games, give you the instant reaction. The rest of the show will be back in studio together. But yes, we'll start with the Warriors. The Warriors. I just love watching Steph Curry play basketball. That really is all it comes down to. I know Jimmy Butler was awesome and kind of carried them in the first half, but there's just something it's

it's like watching Steph Curry, you know, there's only so many years left. And even that big three that didn't go down, the one that rattled out that there was a foul underneath, like that was kind of shocking. That's how good he is when a three doesn't go down. You're like, what the fuck just happened? He's just so much fun. And the Warriors I dream on just trying to, you know, Chuck threes. John Morant, taking his Advil. I'm sure that was Advil. Did you hear that part when Reggie Miller was like, Oh, he's probably popping some Advil. He'll be fine. He crushed up some aspirin. He's probably on the same stuff I'm on. Me and

Joe. He I thought he was done for like the entire offseason. I thought that it was like John Morant questionable for started next year when he came down on his ankle It's like it was a bad-looking bad-looking injury, but then he's like, you know what fuck it. I'm gonna go back in I did like Reggie Miller's advice where he was like because John had to shoot the foul shot afterwards and Reggie Miller's advice was when I had to do that. I was hurt. I would just go to my happy place I would just think of things in my life that made me happy as I'm shooting a foul shot. I think all of America thought the same thing, and that is John Moran is envisioning the AK-47 in his hands right now.

He's literally just, it's drone footage of the Ukraine-Russia war. Yeah. Is what's going on. By the way, John Moran, one of the coolest plays, the alley-oop to himself, how does that not get a bazooka? I don't know. That was crazy. That it's a good point because he went from pretending that he was shooting people to acting like he got shot tonight. Right. So yeah, he's got both sides of that coin. He's fun to watch, man. Zach Eady, he shows me like he's he's improved still. I would say he's

he's like slightly better than he was as an athlete when he was in his last year at Purdue. But that guy, somebody needs to pull him aside and be like, Youngster, you need to quit taking the ball down on rebounds. Yeah, that ball up higher taller than everybody else, because he's addicted to it. He does it every single time to get stripped. Yeah. And it's, um, I just love watching Zach Eady get fouls called on him. That just gives me so much joy. It's, it's, it's such a satisfying feeling after watching it for so many years where it didn't happen. Um, I think he had his like fourth foul halfway through the third quarter and it was like, yes, this is awesome. But yeah, I, I'm, I was, I didn't go into this game having any real rooting interest other than I just want the Warriors to make a run because I

want to watch more Steph Curry basketball. And it felt like if they win this game, they have a chance. They're older if they had to play on Friday as well. Like it really sucks for the team that loses on the on the Tuesday and Wednesday playing games. Then you got to go play Friday and then turn around and play on Sunday. So I'm happy the Warriors get a little rest and we're gonna get a good series, the Warriors and the Rockets.

Yeah, you know how the Thunder lead the league in wearing the free t-shirt that they give you? I think Warriors fans, they lead the league in like 60 year old rich white dudes with like really tan faces that step on the court when the horn blows and try to get a high five from the players yeah like they're on the team Steph Curry do you think Steph Curry has high fived more dudes in like Brooks Brothers shirts than any other player in the NBA history probably it's

like a mix of Brooks Brothers but also also like the Tech Vests, the Lance Silicon Valley guys. But yeah, they think that they're on the team because they're billionaires and they're sitting courtside. They're like, this is my team. I helped pay for this arena. It's the, you know what it is? He leads the NBA history in high fives given to dudes with button down shirts and jeans on.

Yeah. Because that's the look where they're like, Oh yeah, I'm going to dress up a little bit here, but I'm also cool. Dude. Yeah. Dudes like that. Keep it a casual. Probably on TRT. Keep it it. So yeah, they throw in those jeans and they're like, check this out guys. I'm not worth a billion dollars. I'm just like I'm just like the guys drinking a beer down the street. That's me. I'm the guy. I'm going to take away your job in 20 years.

But you can hang out. Yeah, I'm writing a script right now that will make sure that you will never work and be able to provide for your family. But these jeans. Look at them. Look, I can stretch. I'm getting a high five. It's all there. And they always got one. They always got a kid next to him with the Steph Curry Jersey on that kids. That kid's got his life made. That kid could grow up also thinking that his dad is really good friends with Steph Curry. Yes. Yes. Also when people wear the, the Jersey over the collared shirt and jeans. Yeah, I actually respect that. That's like a dorky mood move that I kind of respect. You know, like it's like, come on, dude, really? You're gonna do this. I kind of respect that. I don't know. It's like a weird it's never looked good in the history of wearing that. No, but guys keep trying it. So I'm like, you know what? Tip my cap. You're gonna keep going out with this even though you know it doesn't look good. They usually like have their secretary secretary buy them that jersey when it's game day. Like I'm going to the game tonight. Can you go out and get me a Draymond jersey please? Yep. Can you leave it on my desk please? Make sure yeah Draymond. Yeah just go down the roster. Give me a

couple options. Give me a Steph. Give me a Draymond. Give me a Jimmy. I'll see which one fits best. All right. Speaking of fans by the way. well, where were you guys for the Cole Anthony game? Oh, I was I was on my couch. I mean, the only place I would want to be for for the play. I was I was I was laying in my daughter's bed trying to get her to go to sleep watching it in my left hand with my phone. And I was like, Wow, Cole Anthony, this is fucking where were you moment? Crazy. But speaking of fans, did you guys see we had two fans that I wanted to bring up in the magic

Hawks game, the magic Hawks game, by the way, the magic were the Hawks stink. Trey young got ejected. I feel like Trey young was just sick of playing in the playing game. This is his fourth straight year of playing in the playing game. Um, I just, I have no interest in the Hawks and the magic or, I mean, Hank, you tell me they're, they're going to win what one game? Maybe. Yeah. Maybe one game will be a good test. They have good defense. Powell's really good. Wagner's really good. Cole Anthony, he just scores 26 off the bench every single night. That could be cool. Um, but magic or a good

team though. They've, they've, yeah, they got a young, like they got a good young core. It's just, I think the cells are better. Um, did you see, so there's two fans, one was, did you get, there was a Hawk, there was a fan dressed as a Hawk making Hawk noises during magic free throws. That guy rocked. And then did you guys see this? Probably gonna end up on the bonk list. Did you see the nice pair of tits who was looked to be have a bag of cocaine right behind the bench and she was shaking it? No, I did not see that. Okay, I'll send it to you. So your reaction if I'm overthinking this, but I looked at it and I was like, Yeah, I

think I know what that is. Somebody sent me a tweet and it was something about cocaine, but I was looking at the player because the player was like rubbing his lips. No, look at this video and tell me that that's not exactly what happened. Can't see your face, so it's fine. Can see everything else.

I think that was what was happening. So shout out Orlando. Didn't know you got down like that. Thought it was just Epcot. Thought it was just people with their definitely. Yeah. Yeah. And a nice rack. Yeah, I was. I was looking at, um, is that Wagner on the bench? It's rubbing his lips. But she's just getting ready for the postgame. There's a minute left. And oh yeah, I didn't know Orlando got down like game. There's a minute left. Oh yeah. I didn't know Orlando got down like that. Good job Orlando. Hell yeah. That's like a Miami thieve

that happens in Miami. I wouldn't even blinked. That is insane. That's crazy to do that out in the open like that. So crazy. And the, and the camera was right on her. So yeah, I just wanted to give a shout out to those two fans. Those are my fans of the night. She's another fan is my fan of the night. I've got, I've got a third nominee. It's not going to win. The lady with the cocaine obviously wins fan of the night. Um, but my nominee would be the guy that was at the warriors game that was just straight up eating a big plate of spaghetti behind the Grizzlies bench. I didn't know that this number one, I didn't know that they served spaghetti and plates. No offense Hank. I remember that

picture but this is a rest stop. This dude was just chowing down on a plate of spaghetti at a basketball game probably in like $2000 seats. Also, they have good food at at MSG. They got they got a variety at MSG. They got they got a variety at MSG. This was at Chase. Yeah. Oh yeah. My bad. What? Uh I don't know. I don't know. Also, are you worried

about the Nick? I'm just watching this girl with the cannons. Yeah, she got the cannons in the bag. Um she was nothing. There's nothing else that this could be. No, and she in like good, like the magic win. You're a magic fan. You're in Orlando. It's a Tuesday night.

You got big tits. Just go out with a bag of cocaine. If she was smart, she would identify herself, drop her at, and be like, hey, I'm the cocaine tits chick. Yeah. And she would be a millionaire by the end of the week. All alleged, but we're just watching the video, and we're just saying what we see.

PFT, I saw that. I saw you tweet it. So funny because that's got to be one of the most dangerous foods to eat courtside. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Like you get a spill. Number one, okay, you're at a bath. When was the last time you ate anything at a sporting event and didn't spill any of it? It's never happened. Never. So you're either going to spill it on yourself or you're going to spill it. It's going to fall on the court and then they have to bring the mop guy over. Yeah. Imagine a ball going at him. That would be so awesome. Yeah. I kind of want to see that now. I mean, imagine a mop guy just going up and he, the game has to be paused because

there's a full plate of spaghetti that spilled on the court. Hank, if you get to go on the wood for Celtics playoff game this year, will you eat some spaghetti for us? Uh not not not courtside. Uh come on. Bring a bag of there's a there's a there's a separate there's a separate area where you kind of go in in between halftime and you eat and then you come back out. Do they have spaghetti? Yeah, they got they got like uh you know different options. Okay, but I wouldn't bring it back to the seat. That would be there were a respectful. There's some Orioles fans that went viral a couple

years ago because they they smuggled in a ziplock bag filled with spaghetti to a game. I love it. Yes, Max. I mean, that's that's the always sunny bit. What's your spaghetti? Did that with this spaghetti? Oh, yeah. That's like a bit from the end. Yeah, that was we were talking about this story when Hank and I were in in champagne, like maybe 11 years ago for a Blackhawks watch party and Chuck, who's really our colleague, who's a great social guy, his friend walks around with he had sausages in his in his cook sausages in a Ziploc bag and he was just like you want one and I was like Chuck

what was that and he's like he does that everywhere. He just brings sausages with him. So shout out that guy legend. Okay, so playing we have two more games tomorrow night. The Bulls play the heat Mavs play play the Kings got itailed it. I knew I had it. Oh, one last thing about the Magic in Hawks game. Do you know the Magic actually won their division and the Hawks were the second team? I didn't know because division don't matter in the NBA at all. So it's like I was looking at it before. I was like, I understand why there were divisions back 10 years ago. Because remember they used to do like, if you win your division, you're

an automatic like top three seed. And then they changed it because there was that one year where I think it was, I think maybe the Mavs or someone won 60 games and it was like a fucked up situation because they win their division. Divisions in the NBA, there's literally no reason for them. Yes, meaning. And so I thought about it. Can you guys get all the divisions? I did this myself. So I did this honestly myself. I screwed up one team or flipped two teams, but I was wondering if you guys could get the division. I'll give you the names of the divisions to get you

started. I can definitely not do it. Okay. I can maybe not do it. Okay. I can I can maybe do the east. Alright, so I couldn't even name the the name of the divisions. Metropolitian. So it's the Atlantic, the central, and the southeast. I'm thinking hockey. I got all the east. I screwed up one in the west. Wait, what? It's Atlantic. What? Atlantic, central, southeast. It's the Atlantic So the East makes sense. The do you guys know who's in the Northwest?

The trail trailblazers? Yes. Nuggets? Yeah. Kings? No. Jazz? Yes. It's stupid bucks. The I mean, these books in these rules, the Tim roles are and the Oklahoma City Thunder are. Yeah, I think that's just a stay over from the supersonics and and then and then in the Pacific, there's a Pacific in a Southwest. The sons are in the Pacific, which I got that wrong. They're not in the Southwest. Southwest is Texas. Yeah, it's Pacific is just the California teams in the Suns and

the Southwest is Texas and Memphis and the Rock and New Orleans and the nuggets. Just get rid of them. Get rid of them. So stupid. No one cares about the divisions. I like it was just so funny. We're watching a playing game. It was the winner of the of the division of the Southeast division versus the second place team in the Southeast division. That's crazy. Also crazy, the fact that Quinn Snyder didn't see the cocaine check.

Yeah, true. I feel like he would have probably had eyes on her big time. That would have been a match made in heaven. All right, so we recorded the rest of the show earlier. And PFTU, you commented or made the point that Niko Harrison was doing his closed door press conference with no cameras, no audio recordings. So that took place since we last were together. Did you see some of the reports

from it? No, I have not. Okay, so some of the lines that he's used defense wins championships. He said that again. Uh, he also was said he, I guess he hammered home the point that, uh, there was no, it was not guaranteed that Luca was going to sign the super max, which maybe the dumbest point ever. He like that Luca was going to willingly give up a hundred billion dollars while he's building a house and he's crying about his video. So that's an interesting line that he's using. And then he also had a little.

I mean, also if you take into account state income taxes, it's more than $100 million. Yeah. Yeah. And he also said, my obligation is to the Dallas Mavericks. It's what's the best interest of the Dallas Mavericks. And that's the most important thing. Some of the decisions are going to be unpopular maybe to Dirk and maybe to the fans, but my obligation is the Dallas Mavericks. I'll,

I'll say this. I think the fans in Dirk are probably part of the Dallas Mavericks. I know they're not part of the organization, but like being like, yeah, I'm going to piss off my entire fan base and the number one legend of our organization. And that's me doing my job. He's so lost. It's insane. Yeah, listen, buddy, you fucked up. Sometimes you just got to say it. Like if this press conference today was just, Hey, uh, I just want to say my bad. I fucked that one up. I tried my best, realized it was stupid. I thought I was being really smart. Turns out it was the dumbest thing ever. Max, what are you laughing about? What are you giggling about? Something seemed very funny. You said state, we'll cut this. We'll cut this. We'll cut this. You said state income tax and Hank just immediately started shaking

his head. Oh, don't cut this Hank. Hank had tax today was tax day. It's a trigger word for him. PFT don't use that word tax. Don't use that word. Just burning in his head. But yes, you're right. Just say I fucked up. Yeah. I fucked up. Listen my bad I tried to I tried to outsmart myself and I lost yeah He he also there was a report Tim McMahon who's a very good reporter he does a hoop collective pod with win horse and bond temps and He was like pressing Nico and Nico gave him the old-fashioned. You're coming at me from a negative standpoint I'm looking at me from a negative standpoint. I'm looking at it from a positive standpoint. Yeah. He's just one of the, in those situations

where he's so delusional that you just, he's basically knows he's getting fired. And he's just like, I'm just going to keep saying this until, until hopefully they don't. And you know, every day he's not fired. He's like, all right, yeah, we made another one, but you can't, at this point, you can't say he knows he fucked up even if he does, which he obviously does. Yeah. He's going to, gonna he's gonna do an interview in like five years and be like you know what I've thought about it that was a mistake. He should he should do that right now. It's like if the Warren commission is asking you questions and the Secret Service is like listen you're you're asking a lot of questions from a negative standpoint right now let's talk about

all the positives. OBJ's passed a lot of good legislation. Okay. He there also was his right-hand man chimed in and gave an anecdote about his time in Golden State and said that the fan base was furious at management for trading Monte Ellis until Steph Curry showed up. Just not even realizing that like Luca is Steph Curry. Those are the same. Those are the same guys, not Monte Alice Luca. Like he's, he's using an analogy and he just fucked it up so bad. They're so stupid. It's insane. I do like the idea of just trotting them out to do these press conferences all the time. That would be a good idea too. Such a coward move to do no, no video, no, no recordings. What a fucking loser. We stand

with Mavs fans. The guy's a fucking loser. He needs to get out of town. All right. I had two other things. One, I think we can officially say that Cam Ward is going to be a Tennessee Titan. Did you guys see who's playing? Yeah, tonight, tonight, on Twitch. Yeah, he was on Twitch and he was asked his top four wide receivers in the NFL. Who didn't see this? Max Hank? Did you see this? All right, give me what do you think Cam Ward said his top four receivers in the wide receivers in the NFL are? Did you have brown? AJ Brown. Okay. We got nothing. Did he just say the Titans receivers? He said he said Jamar Chase, Justin Jefferson, Calvin Ridley and Traylon Burks. Trayvon Burks, Traylon Burks. He also said AJ Brown is a dog, but he's no Calvin Ridley. That's funny. AJ Brown, I feel like a team that would take him would be a good team to play for because

they know how to identify a good receiver. He said Tony Pollard was the best running back in the NFL. And Spears. They asked for his top four running backs and he said Spears and Tony Pollard and then just didn't say anything else. I fucking love it. And then did you guys have anything for the Braves announcer that people were pissed about? That was that was very funny story. No, I mean, that was one of those things where I saw just a little bit of outrage. But I'd say it was it was more people

getting mad at people who were outraged. There weren't enough people who were outraged to be upset about. So I only brought it up because it was so funny because so for people who missed it there was a Braves like sideline reporter who was was interviewing a couple women in the outfield in like the bleachers on Monday night and the guys in the booth were like dude get her number and he was like yeah can I have your number and ask for her number like live on camera and then there was a couple people P camera? And then there was a couple people, PFT is right, like there was a couple people who were like, this is ridiculous. This is like so gross.

Not enough for an actual outrage. It was just the more the backlash to the fake outrage. But it made me laugh because I don't know if you saw tonight. He was on a hot dog seesaw in between innings. And I was like, this is this is perfect, because this is what a sideline reporter's job is to do, like the dumbest, silliest things, which he did last night. And he did tonight again on a hot dog seesaw. Yeah, that's that's what baseball announcers do. You write to them in the middle of a dead inning, and they've got

something wacky with the stadium going on. Like the reporters that go down that slide in Milwaukee and break their legs. Yeah. Yeah, that's the job. Did he get her number? He did get her number. OK, good.

Yeah. I think it's, you know what it is? I think Boomer Sison had a great take. He was like, people are just upset about this because now you just go on Tinder and you get your ass spanked in like an hour. He's like, he's like, they're just, they feel uncomfortable with a guy asking for a girl's number because it's so old school.

Yeah. Which is so true. I think that's what made people like, if you, if you actually hit people with true serum, they're probably like, Whoa, that's, I didn't know you could just ask for a number. Yeah. Like that's too forward. Yeah, that seems a little direct. What about just putting I eat ass in your bio? Yeah, yeah, it's predatory. Yeah. What about just lying about your height in your bio?

Yeah, do it the old fashioned way. Oh, man. Okay. All right. Well, we'll kick it to ourselves. We have a great show rest of the show. We have coach Missoula, Hatsy Cool Throne. We try to figure out who the next narrative can't win the big one guy is. Guys on chicks. It's playoff season, boys. Late nights. It's playoff season. Yeah, hockey started this weekend. Can't wait. Let's go. Alright, we'll kick it to ourselves. Okay, before we get to the rest of the show, we're brought to you by Stella blue.

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And I was thinking about it. We actually lost a couple narratives this year in the past calendar year. We lost Rory, we lost Tatum and Jalen Brown winning the big one. And we also kind of lost what? Yeah. I mean, they were 26 when they did. Yeah. But Jalen Brown did say he was going to win seven NBA titles. The narrative is kind of still going because Jalen Brown was nice enough to win MVP. True. So then now it's like that narrative just it evolved. Yeah. Jalen hurts winning the the big one. Yeah. Just Sirianni. Just Philly and dinner. That was kind of a narrative we lost. So I was

thinking like what could be the next guy for you? So I have some names. PFT has some names. Throw it out to you. You want to start with golfers? Because that is your favorite sport. Please. It's your number one sport. Yeah. So you mentioned- It is. It is. It is. Right. Yeah. Uh, yeah. So you mentioned it is it is it is right? Yeah, you like watching golf more than football Get him off the show Thanks fired. It's not it's the truth I know I if you saw last week the pep in his step going into the Masters was unlike the Masters

Sunday was better than Super Bowl Sunday. Whoa week nine Whoa? Whoa, week nine. Whoa. Whoa. Did you mean no commercials? It's you know, drama. He's, he's pissed me off so much with these takes and I'm not going to tell him that he has food in his beard like he always does. The master's Sunday is better than if the Super Bowl was a better game, would you say that? No, but right. So, so we're a football. Sometimes I mean, sometimes the Masters is a blowout too.

Yeah, no, that's this master. This master is correct. Yeah, this master was more intriguing than this year. Disagree. This master's was phenomenal. Agreed. But we're talking about football. Yeah. No, I love football. Are we going to get our schedule?

Are we getting schedules soon? I feel like we should. There's best day Well, we have it We haven't gotten this schedule. I hate what your I hate your tone We haven't gotten the schedule release day release day yet. Okay, Schefter usually puts that out and sometimes there's a release day release day release day So yeah, the Super Bowl for for social media managers. Yeah, awesome. All right. So yeah, I don't like your tone I don't like where you're coming from right now Be careful, buddy

Football pays the bills here. You got the food out of your beard. What happens when how do you always get food in your beard? My mouth games bad. Do you know how to eat? Like, because it always ends up, it will end up on other opposite sides of your face. I don't know. Max has the same problem. Why are you throwing Max? He's not wrong. I don't know. Max has the same problem. Why are you throwing Max? He's not wrong. He's not wrong. Yeah, but I mean, I think more people expect it from

Max than when I met that fucking shot. That was even mentioned. I tried to get your side. Max, I was unfair that Hank, how was that on? How was that getting on my side? That was way worse. Hank forced me to make that comment by by bringing you into the car It's also it was it was a factual comment. I think when I see it from you. I'm like yeah Your messy face guy. Yeah, I get yeah, I get yelled at all the time What happens when you're putting the food to your mouth you just miss it? So how do you guys miss that because sometimes crumbs just go down like you guys don't have Fierce beards like Hank and I do. I mean, I have a decent beard.

No. I've got like- Not the same. I've got good hand-eye coordination. You've got nothing. I'm talking about- I thought you were trying to say something about your beard. No.

The ability to eat, I'd say, is like a little bit strong. Hank gets food cocky. Like, he's been pounding these big Texas cinnamon rolls. Yes, probably. And they're just spraying all over the place. Hank also yawn eats. Well, big guy doesn't chew. He just turns on the vacuum button and just.

Great answer. That's not right. That's not wrong. I oftentimes have to tell myself, hey, why don't you slow down because you're about to finish before Hank's had one bite. I understand that. I eat too fast. It just is what it is. why don't you slow down because you're about to finish before any one hanks had like one bite I understand that I eat too fast this is what it is I don't know yeah it's a problem though okay I like the narrative though that Hank Hank can't eat he can't it's a good one he just ends up with food on his

face I do appreciate that the yawn eats though because that's efficiency if your mouth is gonna be open might as well be eating he kind of just opens his mouth and just throws shit in there and just hopes it gets there. Okay. Golfers. Golfers. You mentioned Scotty, Masters Merchant. I kind of like that narrative. Although we like Scotty.

So I want him to break the narrative. Yeah, I want him to break the narrative. I'm rooting for him to break the narrative. But if he doesn't, if he goes, if he doesn't win any one this year, like there's three more that will be going into next year. Like that will be the narrative. Yeah. I hope, I hope he does. I'm actually thinking about this right now Are we stupid to do the golfers first because once we finish the golfers Hanks gonna tune out? Yeah, probably but if you're gonna mix them in if you're gonna be a merchant being a master's merchant

I feel like would be one of the better ones. Yeah. Yeah well No, cuz I had a bigger point about golfers because I wrote down the ones that I thought and then like Scotty I'm rooting for I want him to win so I don't he's like one of our guys. Ricky Fowler. I want him to win. He has never won a major. I want him to win. Tommy Fleetwood got no problem with him. He's just got to win on tour. Yeah. Victor Hovland, got no problem with him. Also young. I think the name, you ready for it? Patrick Cantley. Yeah.

He's a douche. Yeah. Slow play. We need him to just keep winning other tournaments and never winning a major. He might be a perfect narrative guy. For a while, he was flying under the radar with Xander, because it was always like Xander.

It was Shofley and Cantley. Yeah. They haven't done anything in majors then Xander smashed that and now yeah Cantley He's he's more infuriating to watch though. Also, I should have put a disclaimer on this entire segment We will be biased so you will not hear the name Max Homa Josh Allen that kind of stuff No, of course not. So it's not there will be extremely by Joe burrow none of that. It's none of that shit I think maybe Bryson needs I think he's gotten too skinny. Yeah, how about that? I think Bryson needs to beef it back up again Did you see he went and tried to recreate the shot from the US Open last year? I didn't do it

You remember that? Yeah, that was kind of weird. They did that the day after the master. Yeah, he's always in the content game though He probably had that scheduled for six months. There's a plaque or something. All right, so you cooled Cantley? Yeah, I mean we don't like him. No, he'd be fun to root against like I he needs to choke a couple of these to get I kind of like how much people hate him, but Okay, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, I like cuz you know the golf general golf media is a little bit stuffy and like You know, they're the ones that are sucking off Rory or basically anyone that wins. Yeah, they hate can't lay. Oh So it'd be kind of the bad boy kind of fun just to see them pissed off. Why do they hate him? I think just cuz he's slow play. Yeah, I like Fleetwood. I like fleet. I want Fleetwood Fleetwood winning

Yeah, but he's not got it. I was the list I made was like guys we can root against Mm-hmm, like it's fun to root against people not it's fun to root against people Desperately trying their hardest to succeed and making their whole life about having this one moment and then never reaching it Would son makes it easy to root for him though his son Did you see the interview that his son gave after the par 3? Yeah, so I just tried me hard. I tried me hard. It's a very difficult Just a wee bit more perhaps next year. I'll be able to get up. It's a very very hard his hair, too Is cool. Yeah the mullet although he's kind of watered down the mullet. That's what I'm like if you're gonna have the mullet commit to it I think can't lays the guy though I think we need him to choke in some majors and then get really close and

then like in five years be like, haha. Yeah, just didn't do it in terms of narratives for golf in general. I just like to get the I want a drug controversy. We haven't had one of those in a long time. I'd like to get maybe is Adderall a problem? Yeah, for PGA Tour players. I like that. Alright, so other sports, I know PFT, you got a few as well. So these are just fun guys that like, listen, some of them we like, some of them we don't like, but the narrative is going to start ramping up. Haven't won the big one, had some big time chokes. Number one on the list is Kyle Shanahan.

Kyle Shanahan needs a Super Bowl so badly. It's desperate. It's aged him. Have you seen the before and after? Yeah. It's like he's a president. He's he's a big one. You that do anything for you? Yeah. Okay. You like that one? What about Aaron Judge? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Haven't even close to earning his pinstripe. No Adam on my list. I would go even further and say he's not a true Yankee. No, definitely not. Which is funny because he's had some of the best seasons of all time

by any offensive player. Still, not a true Yankee. I mean, the choke in game five, like really doesn't get discussed enough. It kind of just got forgotten about after. Cause the Dodgers were so good. In all time. Yeah. All time choke.

Also, you can't be a true Yankee in the regular season. The Yankees season starts in October. Agreed. Wake me up in October. Will anybody be a true Yankee ever again now that they changed the facial hair rules No, it's maybe not. I also think that was just a test Yeah

I think it was like if you do grow the hair out grow the beard out That means that you were never true Yankee to begin with right like a parent being like hey you can try any drug Just make sure you tell me about it. Yeah, and then you like I move I just shot heroin Yeah, and she's like you're out of here. Yeah police. Yeah, uh Nate Oates Can't win the big. Oh, that's a good narrative. Yeah, there's other narratives. I was Nate Oh, I would I would high tail it to the NBA before that narrative really gets teeth. Yeah, I mean it's gonna start He's got like it's when you have these top 10 teams every year and you can't get can't get over the hump

He plays Mickey Mouse basketball. Yeah. A good a fun one that I am personally rooting for. John Shire would be a fun one. Yeah. He's gonna have really good teams every single year and he's fresh. You know, this is his fresh clay that we can mold. But you realize 10 years and it's like, holy shit, he hasn't won one. You realize that that would just be a feather in coach K's cap Sure, John Shire couldn't win. So maybe Scratch about this John Shire. Is he a better coach than coach K? Mmm, maybe that narrative. He needs to win one first Yeah, Lamar Jackson's a given that one's a fun one. Yeah, because he's and I know people like what what about Josh? What about Joe, bro Lamar Jackson has played worse in the playoffs than he has in the regular season. Yeah, that's not it's it's been a big step back. Yeah. Uh, memes and lottery ball big one. That one's been a narrative. That one's that one's never going to leave

has written in stone. What, what max it doesn't matter because he's never going to get it. But what would we do with the lottery ball if memes does get it start over, start over, get a new machine We actually should do that. I got it like we should yeah, I'll say it right now We should we should talk to someone about getting a new machine what Hank what? What was that look yeah serving looks? Just an exact copy of this exact no we could get a different one I think whenever we all get it. We should just go to the next machine You know what I got I got starts the narrative. I got a really tiny one. I got a hundred sided dice

That thing sucks. No never get one of those. Yeah Yeah, we'll get a new one what okay. We have money to burn sure the fuck get a fucking We'll just fire Nikki smokes get a new lottery ball machine. All right, I'm done with that done Uh, okay Uh lottery ball machine only fucks up one person. Yeah true Uh, rick barnes, he's out there. He's got the narrative never winning the big one also tennessee basswald not going to the final four Not do anything for you. Not really. You're not a college basketball. We see I should have should have left just stick with we've lost them Either stick with golf or just like New York sports. Oh, I got a couple of New York sports coming up

But how about a couple college football coaches for you? Sure Lincoln Riley James Franklin James Franklin big-time narrative guy big-time Brian Kelly. I feel like he's just done But James Franklin is next up for the narrative. Did he win a playoff game though? He did, but he still hasn't. That was the narrative. No. It was against SMU at home.

It was SMU. He can't beat a real team. Like those aren't. Yeah, he can't beat like a real power five team. Okay, Jordan Love, I think we can all agree. How about this one, Hank? You're gonna like this one. Jalen Brunson. Does that do anything for you? Yeah. Not clutch at all. Two natties. Does that do anything? Hank doesn't care about what's going on in BA. I'm just saying I'm

trying to, I'm trying to predict where the narratives are going to go next. Jalen Brunson is not in there. He is. Okay. What point has he had a team that's underperformed? I think how he's arguing means that he might know. Nick Curley, PFC, knowing the Knicks were built to beat the Celtics this year. And then you know what? We haven't seen the playoffs. Oh, you're going to turn me into a Knicks guy. I hate the Knicks.

You know what I did a week later is I cashed out of that bet for like 25 percent. I put to beat the Celtics. Yeah, I was I was feeling the Knicks for a little bit. I still think that Jalen Brunson is stuck in that zone where the team around him isn't good enough. That's what everyone's saying. Yeah. It's like the way that he plays is so hard

and like he gives so much effort that it's hard to put that narrative on him. It's everybody else's thing. I'm just trying to predict the errors. I don't think it. Meem's had a great point back here. How about when Luca went down and he just single-handedly brought the maps

of the Western Conference? Great, I'm just saying, again, I'm not saying it's Jalen Brunson. I'm trying to predict the next narrative. Next, you can't get mad at me for trying to predict it. No, he's not a narrative guy. He won two national championships. Jalen Brunson's a stud. Okay. Okay. Your Max is talking to me. The question is, he hasn't won the big one. He's won the big one twice. That's not the big one. Yes it is. No it's not. We literally just did. What league does he play in? We literally just did a college basketball section. Yeah they stay in college basketball. Yeah. Wrong. If Jalen Brunser was still in college, if Jalen Brunser was still playing for Villanova there would be no narrative. I'm just asking questions.

Wow. He got, I think we might be onto something. Very, very. You're not onto something. This is the stupidest one yet. No, it is stupid, but it makes me want. Yeah. It makes me want to be cat side because it makes me mad, but you're also wrong about college basketball being different from like that's, that's in the past, man. And just so we're clear, I am not saying the narratives right now I'm saying I'm trying to predict who could be the next guy for us. Like Patrick Cantley hasn't played enough golf for him to be. He can't win the big one. Could he be the, he can't win the big one. John Shire has only coached for three years. You can't be like John Shire can't

win the big one, but he could be that guy in five years. See what I'm doing. You got me to the point that I'm starting to argue that Joel and like, Oh, yeah. On this list. Obviously. Uh, uh, Kevin, we'll Roasting me about Joe and being, you said Sixers Twitter got a hold of that. That one guy was awesome. I hope this is the first of many. Yeah. Yeah. The kidney stones. Yeah. The kidney stones. Hey buddy, I have 16. Cause I told, yeah, I told, I told, uh, Joel and be like, I'm not missing a podcast. then all the comments once six years Twitter got a hold of it

We're like this motherfucker is in the hospital and can't piss and he's thinking about Joel and beat. I was like, yep Yeah, sure. I'm Kevin Willard Never never gone to the lead eight. Okay, that's on there. This is turning into just trying to piss max No, all right. We'll go somewhere else a fun one Why aren't we talking about Caitlin Clark? She's never won a championship. Yeah, not even in college She's got start winning championships and Paige Becker's many are saying is gonna be better than her. We'll see we'll see wait a minute So now we're counting college for Caitlin Clark, but not for Jalen Brunson also in the WNBA

Well, she hasn't yes. Yes. the first thing you just said was not even in college. Yes. She has in one. It's doubled that she had. Yeah. She had that narrative that was established at Iowa. Right now. She's got a brand new narrative. Right. Exactly. And also it was basically Caitlin Clark by herself in Iowa. Jalen Brunson had a stack team. Uh, Kevin Durant's narrative. Just, we just need a new chapter of it because it's now that his career is getting closer and closer to being done. No one has ever like ruined their legacy more. Hmm. Russell Wilson. Hmm. Russell wasn't as much of an all time great though. Yeah. Like he wasn't Kevin Durant was like

on the path. Russell Wilson was on the path to be in the hall of fame, but not all time great. Not all time great. Right. I think, I think Kevin Durant, like, I mean just the, he's he's about to go to another team this year. Yeah. Like if he ruins the next team, he goes to how is that not talked to you should go to the thunder. Thunder could help his narrative a lot. Thunder would be the only place I can save is his narrative. I get it'll be it'd be a nice. Yeah, but one everything I think there's a chance. I think there is an actual chance He goes to DC if we get the first pick that'd be a good narrative. It would be good narrative go home. Yeah

Mike trout to make the playoffs These don't talk about it's Mike trout to smile. Yeah, my church smile. My church go to the playoffs. Come home. Um, James Harden, obviously. I mean, that one is just he is he's doing the same thing every year. Like he's he played. He's had a very good season.

He was incredible on Sunday. I can't wait to watch him in the playoffs. Yep. I can't wait for him to be good in like the first three games of a series and then game six or seven. Like where James Harden go. Yeah, that's't wait for him to be good in like the first three games of a series and then game six or seven Like where James Harden go. Yeah, that's a fun one. And then and bead obviously Connor McDavid, obviously And beat is the most obvious one, right? I almost feel like that narrative is closed though. You think it's just over I think it's just over and then I had two others that were just like hey, we lost Hank by the way immediately

I stopped talking about golf. Shut up. Ah, to that to that I'll throw out there that are just listen, it's a long time and there's different situations. Luca could definitely be a narrative guy eventually being in LA, like the style of play that he has. Yeah, doesn't win one. And then I'll just throw this one out there and I love him.

I think he's so much fun to watch Do we talk do we talk about how Janis might only win one Hmm That's also like a cast of characters though. I understand only when one though never is it never is a discussion I but when you're how many did Ovi win? He's one as of now there sometimes is that discussion But like that's not a discussion for Ovi. Why would that be a discussion? I wanted one to also fucking carried. Yeah, you did. All right, so that was a bad one I was thinking outside the box What are the ones you have PFT? I have kind of a reverse one

Okay one that might get flipped on its head depending what happens this postseason if the Warriors go on a run Mm-hmm, which they could Steph Curry goes lights out is Steph Curry does lights out is Steph Curry. Does he enter the Kobe realm of the goat conversation? I would, I would make the argument that he, uh, in LeBron's goat decade, Steph Curry was the best player. He changed the game. Yeah. Maybe not for the better. Would be big for Jay, but too. It'd be huge for Jay, but Jay, but whatever his legacy. But if the warriors win the NBA title this year, Steph Curry wins finals MVP. I feel like you're going to have, you're going to have the Jordan LeBron, Kobe Curry conversation. Yeah. I mean having five would be insane. Yeah. And spread out that, that far. Yeah. And spread out that that far. Yeah. Yeah. One team, one team, one Jersey guy. One that you might want to buy in on now. Okay, from the ground up. Can Arch Manning win the big one? He's got he's got not winner DNA in his system. Peyton Manning. Yeah, he won. But for a long time, we had that. By the way, one of the funniest clips of all time was when Was it was it Phil Sims?

Who was it that said if Peyton doesn't win a Super Bowl? We're gonna talk about him like in the same vein as Dan Marino that you can't win a Super Bowl and Dan Marino was on The set with you that he was like dude. What the fuck? Yeah, he was so bad right here. He was so pissed Yeah, we'll see what Arch Manning does at Texas Texas has not been able to win the big one since what Vince Young. So it's like, I don't know if they've been, they've been sniffing around. If Arch can't get it done, then it might be that same narrative that I mean, Peyton, they didn't win the big one in college either. Then he leaves and they win. It would be nostalgic to do a whole Manning can't win the big one again. I would like that. I think it'd be good for our souls. Also, Max counterpoint to your point that just popped in my head.

I actually think that people do bring it up with Rogers to the only one one. I think you bring it up with Roger. Okay. That's a fair counterpoint. Keep going. PFT. Want to keep your eye on. Well, it has been brought up. Kevin O'Connell. Oh, can't win in the playoffs. Oh, he's a regular season merchant. He's he's doing the best with some below average to average to maybe kind of good quarterbacks,

bringing the best out of them, getting high seeds, losing the playoffs, just something to keep your eye on. Keep an eye on. You're wrong. He's like one of the best coaches if not the best offensively in the United States. It's an Keep it. I'll be wrong. He's like one of the best coaches if not Yes, offensively in the in a caution is incredible coach. I'd trade, you know I wouldn't anymore but a lot of teams are trading for kyle shanahan Yeah, kevin o'connor right now would suck a dick to get to the kyle shanahan can't win the super bowl near. Yeah. Yeah Um, that's a good point I'm trying to think of uh, oh chalamet I hope he doesn't win a Oscar forever oh okay yeah because he

said he wanted to win it so bad that'd be kind of a loser move to want to win an Oscar right well yeah but what if he doesn't win one for like 40 years if that's it we want that for you know good good films I but I like yeah yeah I like being able to say juicy J has won more Oscars than Timothy Chalamet mm-hmm and just saying this is what opens up like being like, I like this speech because I do I do agree with him. There's no shame in being like, this is what I want to do. And I want to be the best.

But when you do that, and if you're not, if you don't win the awards, people are going to start talking chatter. One narrative I'm just going to lean into this year is that the SEC is a basketball conference. Mm hmm. I like that. Yeah. So just keep that in mind. This is just a whole segment of just being the hater convention. Yeah. Like way. So, so any what? Give me your top four that you like that you're going to go with. I like

can't lay. I really like Brunson. I should have never said anything. Judge was solid. Is Jay right? A coach. Oh That that whatever Yeah, you're not mad. That was the worst argument ever because it's It's the opposite what it's is Villanova a Jay Wright merchant is the is the real argument there He has a system coach that no he is the sister or Jay Wright is the system That's not how we use that term. That's how I used it. Okay. I would say Mike trout because but I feel like that one just never doesn't get talked about but it should. It's hard because baseball is so hard. Like one player can do really

well and the team still can't lose right. But you can't blame the one. Like it was different like Clayton Kershaw was such a good one because it would be so good in the regular season. And then as soon as the Playoffs game he would he would suck. Yeah, Bryce Harper is also an opposite one He's never won a World Series, but he always plays well in the play. Oh, yeah I forgot about Bryce Bryce. I was never won the one. No, you think that he has Hank because When he signed with the Phillies in his press conference that he gave Bryce Harper Bryce Harper said it's my dream to bring a World Series To Washington DC when he signed with the Phillies by mistake

We won the World Series and So you guys are brice harbors on that team no so you have isn't you know? I'm sure you have Kevin Willard and bead Bryce Harper and Brunson well Bryce Harper is like one of the best postseason hitters ever. He is. All right, so what's your fourth pick, Hank? Bryce Harper?

Bryce Harper and Kevin O'Connell. Okay. All right. That's good. Good. Yeah, it is just the hater watch. Who can we, who's gonna fail and we're gonna just relish in it? Somebody out there is like, PMT has never won the iHeartMedia podcast award. Can't win

the big one. That's true. We technically, we would be, can't win the big one. Yeah. Can't hold onto a show. Yep. But yeah, I feel bad for you, Hank, because I do, I feel like I saw in your face, you really enjoyed the Rory not being able to win one in a decade plus and not being able to win the Grand Slam and it got robbed From you. It also is extra worse when it's like

golf guys who are like crying With worry and like we did it Yeah, yeah It is what it is. You gotta just you know, they got they got they got one. Yeah, they got one on us the LeBron It really is the LeBron LeBron Cavs year was was the worst that one ended you it's just it was in so that's another point that you could win one and not and still have the narrative because it was he had won two yeah LeBron well that's when you go the

goat narrative yeah fight for you still could. Yeah. I mean, six losses in the finals though. That's a lot of a lot of losing a lot of losing. Okay. Let's do hot seat cool thrown and then we'll get to our interview with Joe Missoula NBA playoffs are here and the only place to buy hard to get playoff tickets is game time the official ticketing partner Barstool Sports. Hey, can you look up the tickets for bowlsls Heat, which is tonight as you're listening to this with killer last minute deals all in prices views from your seat and their lowest price guarantee game time takes the guesswork out of buying NBA playoff tickets. Prices on the app actually go down the closer gets the tip off. If you can save up to 60% when buying last minute tickets. Plus on April 22nd for Earth Day when you select and purchase purchase a super deal, Game Time will plant a tree with the proceeds. Looking at tickets for the Bulls Heat. $68. $68. Playing magic. Amazing deal on Game Time. What are you waiting for? Go buy those tickets now. Take the guesswork out of buying NBA playoff tickets with Game

Time. Download the Game Time app. Create an account account use code PMT for $20 off your first purchase terms apply again create an account redeem code PMT for $20 off download the game time app today what time is it game time okay hot seat cool throne Hank my hot seat cool throne is my hot seat is Ryan Day mmm why's that so this is just a funny classic classic internet story it started with Clay Travis who said you can't trust Men who died their beards to red flag Ryan day's wife then came over the top and said I've known Ryan my entire life He's never once died his beard next narrative move on to the next narrative. Oh

Ryan day looks like he dies his beard. It's kind of an embrace debate. It's a hot seat And if he doesn't die if he does die his beard, he's got to now be Super careful and super on point with it You know what I take away from this is that it's even funnier because Ryan Day obviously dies his beard in secret He hides it from his wife. Okay. He's probably got a special bathroom that he goes into that's got his just for men for the beard Hidden away in a cabinet that she doesn't look into He goes in there for like 15 minutes. She probably thinks he's jacking off He goes in there dies the beard comes out and then she pretends that nothing is is amiss. Yeah, I'm looking at right now so he does have

Very like dark black hair. So it might be that but I've also There's no way that's not dyed. You know what it is? It's the- It's so dark. It's the rosy cheeks that really make the beard pop. Maybe that's it? I'm trying to find pictures of him with any graying hair. Cause like if your hair is graying,

your beard is gonna gray. You know? It just, I don't think you could have one or the other. Usually the beard goes first. Yeah. I can personally attest that the beard goes first. Well that might just be mayonnaise. Yeah.

Hahahaha Oh man. I don't like you guys. I love you Max. That comment alone won the Brunson debate. Can't win the big one. Uh, okay. So he's now gotta really, you know, be on point. He's got to be really on point

I'm seeing some pictures. They might be I don't know if they're looking like a little bit of gray hair up top so He's he probably dies it. Yes, he JD Vance fumble the trophy I did see that why is the trophy two pieces dropped the base I think it's just to humiliate people that try to pick it up It's crazy because I wanted to laugh at it and be like, wait, this trophy makes no sense. Well, Ryan Day without a beard is kind of weird. I don't want to know. Gross.

Yeah, sounds gross. Okay. Where did you see that? You get the slide. You know how they- I kind of want to see it. They do the pictures where you like show like before and after flooding. Oh, I thought that it was like an AI thing that you could do. Imagine this guy without a beard. No, he actually didn't have a beard.

Can we do that with Hank? Memes. Can you find some sort of face tuning app that removes Hank's beard? Uh, okay. What's your next one? That might be the new, the new max that you Photoshop onto stuff. PFT just used to rock a Hitler stash for like three years. I did not rock a Hitler stash for three years. This is what separates me from Ryan Day is that the center of my mustache grows in darker than the blonde hairs at the end.

So if I go a couple days without... Remember when you dyed your beard and you tried to pawn it off as not? Yeah. That was awesome. Yeah, I remember that. But so yeah, the sides grow in blonder, lighter. And so if I go a couple days without trimming it up it looks like you know shadow you know who else had the Hitler stash don't say Hitler Michael Jordan yeah Michael Jordan the Haynes commercial yeah but yeah so memes

has found a bunch of old pictures of me with Hitler stash yeah that's bad not a Hitler stash memes having just like our entire archive is one of the scariest things we've got going on. It is. It's pretty bad. Yeah. He's not to be like, look at him. He's just so happy. He just it's not that I don't trust him because I actually do trust him. I just I just know that he could. I mean, he the guy said he was going to bomb NFL headquarters like he he's a he's a he's he's kind of the riddler the the what's the guy joker joker I said the riddler my brain just lost it there for a second yeah joker if any of you guys got arrested for some violent I would be like that's completely out of character I've got a document already typed up for when memes inevitably does ready to go. Yeah. Okay. I trust him My cool throne is Chador Sanders and Travis Hunter

Mm-hmm kind of an embrace debate as well, but they are getting their jerseys retired at Colorado next year Okay, there's a lot of debris debate being embraced Travis Hunter. I feel like one the Heisman Yeah, Travis Hunter's a no a no doubter. You have like one of the Heisman Travis Hunter's and no, no doubter. You have to do Travis Hunter Heisman should door. What number should or is he 12? 12. Yeah. That's tough because 12 is such a good quarterback number. And also, you know, they were saying, you know, Cordell Stewart doesn't have his number retired. He won a lot of games. So I think they were, I saw someone point out that no one from the national championship team in 90 91 has their number retired. I did, I was looking at it because I guess she door has over a hundred records at Colorado. So that's kind of cool.

But yeah, I think you know, it's something that when, when prime coach prime leaves, they're just going to be like, uh, we're going to unretired. You know, my real, yeah. Do you know what my real take is on this is I have no problem with Chidora and, uh, Travis Hunter. I have a problem with the timing way too soon. Yeah. You can't retire a number three months after they, they stopped playing. Like this is 10 years from now. They're doing it to spring game. Do you think that this was done to give like one little nudge to Chidora's draft stock?

Yeah, there is a lot of stuff that the giants are are are invited him back. Yeah, for like a personal pro day. Yeah. But don't you guys agree like retiring number you can't just do like that right away. It's like the Hall of Fame. Like it's got to be five years. Yeah. After you leave, you gotta let it settle. What happens if, Hank, you also implied that Dion had something to do with Shadoor's number being retired. I think I think he did. That's bullshit. You think think the other doesn't wasn't play here? I don't know about that. I think he did I don't know think he said if you're gonna retire Travis, but so you can make a Shiloh

Probably try Travis Hunter should get his jersey retired shouldn't be right away should door Sanders you can make the argument if He was the start of Colorado like completely changing everything. Yeah, I mean if this is sustainable and Colorado is good for the next 20 years and like it all started with Shador, then I think it makes sense. But you can't make that judgment right now. Hank, I feel like you would be in favor of just every team retiring the number 12. Yeah, I would be like Jackie Robinson. Yeah. Um, what do you say? That was, oh, you're, oh, you're, you're hot seat. My hot seat. I mean, I'm kind of on

a hot seat still from the stones haven't passed them yet. So last night I, I took, um, an edible because I was in a bunch of pain, not a drug guy, but I was like, I'm going to try to dull this as much as I can. So I take an edible, and then I'm trying to piss the stone out. So I'm banging waters all night. I probably banged like nine waters or so. Sitting there on the couch, and then I got super paranoid, probably from the edible. And I convinced myself that I gave myself water poisoning,

which you can do. There was that- Oh yeah, you can like die. Yeah, you can die from it. So this lady, it was like a radio call-in show or something Yeah, they were giving away a Nintendo Wii because they were hard to get your hands on So it was hold your Wii for Wii and they brought a bunch of guests in the studio made them chug waters and the person that Lasted the longest that didn't pee

They won the Wii. I think this lady I don't know if she won. She might have come in second And then she drank so much water that she died you can like drown yourself from the inside I obviously came nowhere close to that, but I was paranoid from the weed so I was like oh shit I might die am I gonna die from drinking all this water and So then I decide the best way to counteract all that was I had to eat a giant bag of Doritos Cool Ranch Doritos to get some sodium in my system smart So then I just woke up this morning feeling like shit because I ate a full bag of Doritos Cool Ranch Doritos to get some sodium in my system. Smart. So then I just woke up this morning feeling like shit because I ate a full bag of Doritos

Cool Ranch Doritos on a full tummy on a full tummy. Yeah. My other hot seat is nepotism. Oh, so not nothing to do with Dion. But there was a story that came out in the athletic this morning about what's going on at Chapel Hill at UNC. And so one thing that Bella check going on didn't have to worry about beforehand was Freedom of Information Act requests where you can get your hands on the

the emails that are sent around. So Bella checks girlfriend, also personal assistant, philosophy major, author, probably assistant coach, assistant coach, Jordan Hudson. She they got their hands. Hank is locked back in and he's pee. She they got their hands. Hank is locked back in and he's peeved. They got their hands on some of the emails that she's been sending back and forth. Oh no. She said, uh, that the school shouldn't use images of Steve and Bill together. Steve Belichick and Bill Belichick together because she wants to prevent visual prompts that could fuel accusations of nepotism. She

suggested that the Tar Heels avoid referring to Steve as Bill's son and instead highlight his own accomplishments. She said, it is really worth emphasizing the point that Steve has the experience of being a college defensive coordinator and will bring a plethora of knowledge to the coaching staff. That's facts. I believe being strategic about the depiction of the Steve will prevent controversy. She calls him the Steve. OK. I believe that being strategic about the depiction

of the Steve will prevent controversy and show utmost respect towards Steve's career, validate Bill's decision as head coach to hire Steve. So they've also applied for a number of patents. They have tried to trademark Chapel Bill. Oh. The Bellistrator, the Belichick way, and my personal favorite Chapel Bill parentheses Bill's version. Oh. In parentheses. I feel like that one is the winner. That's the one that Chapel Bill's Bill's version. That was definitely Belichick's idea. Yeah. Hank, what are your thoughts on all this? I'll ask you a question. I asked Dave on the rundown if

UNC has a great season wins the ACC Championship do you think a single player touches that trophy before she does? Yes, no way you think she's gonna Yes. No way. You think she's going to be at his side? Oh yeah. Did you see her on the field? Florio actually out of nowhere. Florio, we, we, uh, you have the enemy and my, the enemy is my friend. Florio had his back. He was like, it looks like she's just doing her job as producer of his documentary Okay, so he had her back. Yeah, that's good Yeah, I think I think he would give the trophy to the players first hmm I think I didn't but what I'm not saying bill has to get like I think bill would maybe but like what?

Standing right what it Dave said 100% she would touch it before the players She's a good dresser though. I'll give her that she's passionate she's very good though she cares about the team Yep a lot and she's you know using her voice To make her thoughts known okay. She is None of this is weird What any of this having a girlfriend What? Any of this. Having a girlfriend? No.

You know what I'm asking. I mean, if it wasn't for the Freedom of Information Act, no one would be any wiser about it. Really, the problem is the First Amendment. Yeah. I mean, if everyone's emails were out there, you know, their wife, that's like a very normal thing for their girlfriends to kind of run the show. Like, that's like a common narrative. Really good point. It's a great point. Okay. Your cool

tone. My cool throne. We did a bad job. Joe Flacco is back in Cleveland. Oh, did you miss that? I did. Yeah. So Joe Flacco is back. So very thankful for that. Browse love doing things with quarterbacks one year too late. Yeah, that's what they're really into these days. So he's going to be, is he in the list of doubters for Deshawn? He's got to be. Yeah, that's what they're really into these days. So he's gonna be is he in the list of doubters for Deshawn? He's gotta be. Yeah, I mean, him. Can he pick it? Yep. Can he pick it was pumped? Although Kenny had a quote that was like, I'm excited to play with Joe Flacco. I used to watch him when I was 10. Oh, that made me feel very old. So he's also coming for the

starting job. Yeah, I mean, you will see if it's real competition. It's real open quarterback thing. My other cool throne is Coachella because Coachella people. I read a stat that was 50% of concert attendees are financing their tickets this year. It's like 700 bucks to get in. Is Coachella still like a cool thing to go to? I've opted out officially of all music festivals. I think I'm done with festivals. It's, uh, from my perspective, it feels like it's just become all influencers and brands. It's Coachella sold out. Yeah. What happens where I, where's my, where's the Coachella

I used to know? And by I used to know, I would look at like hot girls on Instagram going to Coachella. I didn't, I didn't leave Coachella. Coachella left me. So yeah, there, people are financing them. They're putting them on layaway, meaning you're getting a loan for your ticket leave Coachella, Coachella left me. So yeah, people are financing them. They're putting them on layaway, meaning you're getting a loan for your ticket to Coachella, which sounds like a terrible decision financially. And then what happens if you don't pay up? And you already went to the festival. Do they repossess your Instagram posts?

I think so. I don't know how that works. But they also just described influencers. What? You were like, Coachella is just hot girls going to our influencers going to Coachella. I like how you pronounce be hot girls I like how you pronounce Coachella Coachella Coachella. Yeah, I think they're still hot girls. Yeah, there's definitely still hot girls I go to Coachella there are but I'm saying they're just wait who you talking to you. I I know there are I'm saying it's all Influencers now though, like it's the the entire thing is sold out like what was it?

What was it before those were also influencers eight years ago my Coachella? Instagram models Instagram models other than like my Coachella. Yeah, it was fucking different, bro It was yeah, it was about the music. It was like this one. You're like you're like my Coachella was hot Influencers no, they were just hot girls. They were natural hot girls. They're natties You're like my Coachella was hot Influencers no, they were just hot girls. They were natural hot girls. They're natties. Those are No, they were no no no no no no buddy back me up the internet not used to not be all influencers I think it was in the last you know five years. It's the No, it was no it was yeah yeah it was chicks in the wild back

then yeah and it was or no and they were just how it was it was chicks all of them because they were in for you and then they become in for you there was no five years so good all right we just had a conversation I'm saying all the hot girl it used to be Natty hot girls. No, it wasn't. Yeah, it was. Those were still influencers. No, they were in for the love of the game.

Yeah. Now they're just influencers. They were concert attendees. The love of the game of taking pictures and posting them on Instagram. Yeah, they were concert attendees. They're still doing that. That's memories. Concert attendees that happened to be very attractive.

Right. And then those same girls became the influencers. Correct. And now they're no longer as hot because they're not Just chicks in the wild. Yeah. Now you got to get a skincare routine. Just look at a hot picture. Yeah They sold out. Yeah, babe sold out. They did women. Honestly women sold out the nadis were the best I liked women before it was cool. This is such a this is such an old old man Why well it was old man like five years Yeah, what are you talking about? They weren't all influencers. Yes, they were though. They weren't how did you find them?

I saw them sidebar. Yeah, I think I think maybe five years ago was influences I think we're ten years ago. Yeah ten years ago five years ago ten years Ten years we bought barstool, the chive, they would post to the gallery of all the hot girls at Coachella and not, it wouldn't be influencers. Fact or fact? Ten years ago, yeah. Okay, sorry, I should've said ten years ago, guys.

I still think that they, most of those were probably influencers as well. Inflicts didn't exist ten years ago, Max. That is, I wish that were the case. 10 years ago, the influencers were not like, that wasn't real. There were still Instagram, like Instagram models. No, I'm back.

10 years ago, when did Coachella start? Long time ago I think. Yeah, see, my Coachella. Yeah, but Woodstock 99 guy. It's literally been the only experience I've ever had with Coachella is just looking at hot chicks Coachella might That might be on the Mount Rushmore of stuff I never want to go to that would be a good one to do actually though That one is not because I think there's a little at least in my dumb brain

I get Burning Man and Coachella mixed up and Coachella's like in Palm Springs, right? In California. It's like really nice. Yeah. Burning Man's the desert. I think they get like nice Airbnbs and they just party all weekend. Yeah, but still. Oh, you want to go?

I would never go to Coachella. I would never go to Burning Man. I don't think I'm ever going to go to... I will go to Coachella if we need to. There's someone in this... I will go to Coachella if if we need to I someone in this I'll go to you know what I'll go to to get to the bottom of this daddy hot girl like if a brand really wants To send one of us like I guess I'll fall on that. I'm more of a fire fest guy All right, my cool throne is

Oh, sorry wait was that hot that was your hot seat. That was my cool throne that was your cool my hot seat is us because we got it. Listen, we did it with Rory. Tip your cap. Chris Paul played all 82 games this year. That's wow. We got it. He's 40 years old. That's amazing. Like we got a tip our cap. We're still finally got one. Now the Spurs did not even come close to making the playoffs, which actually is perfect for for so because he doesn't have to deal with a drastic, horrible crash out by Chris Paul and whatever team he's on. If he played less, maybe they would have made the playoffs. Yeah, probably. But that's pretty nuts. Year 20 plays all 82 games. I think Chris Paul should actually like this should be his

goal because he's never going to win one perfect attendance award. Just play for another five years and play every single game. He won't. He won't. He won't do it. Um, and then my cool throne is, uh, well paid page backers is the number one pick. She the WNBA draft happened to who'd you guys get? Uh, we got the guard from Notre Dame. Okay. We got, uh, a player from Southern California. I didn't mean no. I'm trying to think Somebody from Southern, California, and then I want to say I'm probably European or something

Oh speaking to USC did you see the most recent video of Jane Daniels? No, I did not Was him dancing at a wedding. Oh, yeah, I saw that one and his mom was like right behind. Yeah, no girls What part of no girls don't you understand Hank? Is that weird? Like if we're gonna talk about? No, he's he's ball is a grown man. He's worried about one ring and that's a Super Bowl ring It's a little weird Hank. I'd agree So that's you don't want your you don't want your players to be normal human beings. You just want them I want my quarterback to be married to the game. She could have been like 10 feet further away. It's a wedding

Yeah on a dance. It's completely normal to have chaperones But uh paycheck has That's more of a conservatorship. It's more of a chaperone. Yeah the That's more of a conservatorship. It's more of a chaperone. Yeah. Than a chaperone. The Pagebackers went number one. But I bring up Cool Throne because this might be one of the coolest tweets ever. This guy named Gary Knox, who I think

is a writer for like prep. He does like covers prep school and high school basketball. In 2013, tweeted a picture and said, it's a picture of Pagebackers. He said, remember the name page backers sixth grade. Think Diana Tarasi best sixth grade guard I've ever seen St. Louis Park. Well, that's pretty nuts. Like to actually call your shot like that. Yeah. Sixth grade. Like there's no way you could tell a sixth grader being like, that's going to be the next number one pick. No, but I mean, she's she's awesome. I do think that she might be a better WNBA player than Caitlin Clark

I do not I think she's more athletic She's more explosive Caitlin Clark obviously shoots better from the outside and she's like a once-in-a-generation talent But in terms of I'm talking about winning. I think he'll Clark's better. You just said it once in a generation Yeah, once in a generation shooter. I'm also a juju guy. I heard this Dominique Malanga is just a female wemby. She can dunk, right? Yep, so I'm a Malanga head. A Malanga head?

I don't know if that's how you pronounce your name. But a female wemby sounds cool. You're a Malangaloid. It never really dawned on me like a chick getting dunked on but that will rock. Yeah. No, that's that's cool I feel like maybe she should have been like Paige Becker's. It's just the more marketable name So that's why Paige Becker's went first, but melonga is probably the better player. I have watched some highlights of melonga She's she's a problem. I did see some very sad Dallas tweets of like one guy just being like, we could have had Luca and Paige Becker. Oh man.

Did you see that Nico is doing, he's doing a press conference? No. So he's meeting with the media for the first time since the trade. Only caveat is you're not allowed to bring any recording devices. Oh, that's a pretty big caveat. Yeah, pretty big caveat. So it's not really a press conference. He's just having like a coffee talk.

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your cell phone. And now here's coach Joe Missoula. Okay. We now welcome on a very special guests, recurring guests, uh, champion defending champs. It is Boston Celtics head coach Joe Missoula coach. Always great to see you. Uh, we're getting ready for the playoffs. Actually, first question, you just finished your season finale against the Hornets, who are a lottery team. And you said that this is actually, uh,

like the ultimate test to see if you're ready for the playoffs. Did you guys pass the test in an inconsequential game for your team? Yeah, I mean, I think, uh, there was a, the season presents like so many tests. And I feel like, you know, we break the season down and try to, you know, give ourselves as many tests as possible. And I think there's a, there's something to be said, you know, in moments of, like you said, if a game is for whatever reason, inconsequential, can you still practice, you know, all the things that go in the way and can you make that game

like the most important game at that time? And so that was the, that was the goal yesterday was, you know, can we make that game the most important game? Can we make it, you know, the, the feeling of the, the anxiety or pressure, the expectation, uh, that where you have to deliver, you have to win. And I thought the guys, you know, did a great job of that. So, so walk me through this. When you say like, Hey, this is going to be a big test and this is the most important game. But then coach's decision Tatum doesn't play. Is that kind of mixed messages or the guys like, Hey, I thought it was most important game, but our best player is not playing. Uh, no, I don't think so because I think throughout the season you want to validate every player like one through, you know, 15 or 17 or how

many ever are with us at the time. Right? And I think, you know, I think sometimes the way you treat some of those games is actually a disservice to those guys, because you're not putting the pressure and the expectation and the standard of winning on them. And it's almost as like, okay, well, we don't have our top guys today, this game, you know, doesn't matter as much. And I think it's the opposite. We don't have our top guys today. This game matters even more. And like, you know, development goes a lot of different

ways, right? Like there's on court development, but then there's also like the piece to which, you know, you can't simulate, which is like, you have to deliver every single night when, when, when, you know, when you are a Jalen or a Jason or like the top guys and you don't get to simulate that. And so to find moments for the guys that are working their asses off throughout the whole season, to give them three, four nights where they have to deliver. That to me is just as important to their development as the skill work that they're doing and the stuff that they do throughout the season. I know that you're always looking for ways to make sure that your team is still motivated like a different season this year. The championship was last year. God turn the page. New season. Um, do you find that it's hard to, to get yourself or to get the team to buy in on that given

that once you win something, everybody treats you differently. They treat you like a champion. You've got this, you know, the pedigree or whatever they call it for you. How do you, how do you like kind of try to remove that to keep your team motivated and focus on, on now as opposed to last season? Yeah. I think everything comes first from the DNA of the guys. Our guys have a different mindset and as competitive as they are, and they're going after so many different things, whether it's championship, gold medal, what they're doing off the court in their community, where parents, they're just always going after greatness.

So I think I just try to feed off their personality. And at the end of the day, like you only have so many opportunities to be great and to go after something that's, you know, special and bigger than yourself. And so, you know, you can't look, you gotta look at, you know, you gotta look at it from the standpoint of like, you don't know how many years you're gonna have an

opportunity to go after something so special and the greatness of it. So you kind of have to treat it differently. And I think the guys have that perspective. So I really just kind of feed off them. Yeah. I heard that you don't let your, uh, your assistant coaches wear championship merch from last year. Is that true? That is, yeah. They can't, they can't, they can't wear it like even at home. Are you policing them at home? I wish I could I would love to just like show up to one of their houses and like they see me through like the bedroom window

Yeah from last season on what about fans? What about like a hypothetically a podcast producer that wears, you know 2024 Boston Celtics NBA champion shirts all the time. Is that person living the past? I mean clearly he doesn't want us to win or move forward. So I had a question. You mentioned the gold medal when you're watching the Olympics this year and Jalen Brown gets snubbed and Jason Tatum doesn't get playing time. Are you sitting at home like rubbing your hands together? Like, yes, this is I obviously you're rooting for your guys, but yes, this is just another chip on their shoulder that I can now use. And they're just like, Steve Kerr is literally giving me material that

I can put on the bulletin board on day one and be like, they don't think you're good enough. Yeah. I mean, if you guys ever watched the last dance and uh, you know, I think if you listen to if you watch that and you listen to some of the other guys like the Tom Brady's and those guys they're they're they're intrinsically motivated that's what you know allows them to play for so long and to go after stuff which I think our guys are intrinsically motivated and you know why they've been able to do what they've done up until this point but then you got to kind of like just make up shit sometimes to be able to like you know get yourself through something or

whether you're lying you you could even be lying yourself. And that's why I like pointed like yesterday's game. Like, you know, yesterday's game, I felt like it was like a game seven for me. And I was just like, like, if we lose this game, like, it's going to be a miserable 48 hours. You know, and I wanted that. And so I think, you know, I'm not I don't know if they were sitting there thinking that at the moment.

But I think in our relationship I do try to find small ways to be able to just build, you know, narrative. Sometimes they're made up, sometimes they're not, but I think you need that skill of, you know, some short-term extrinsic stuff to where you can kind of like, you know, lie to yourself a little bit, put your own back against the wall. I think it's necessary, like, you know, especially when you're playing and being a part of the Celtics. Yeah. I think it's necessary like, you know, especially when you're playing and being a part of the subjects Yeah, so right so so along those same lines The Grizzlies fired their head coach Michael Malone got fired last week

Did Joe Missoula sit in his car being like I'm next trying to trying to get even though you're not but trying to tell yourself That like it's gonna happen to me just to try to motivate yourself more When we were that that stretch in January where we weren't playing well, I was woke up every day and told myself I'm getting fired if you don't tell me. I'm done. Like I would tell the staff to have like guys we're done. Like you know, we don't figure this thing out. You know, like we just we don't deserve the coach here. But yeah, I mean I think you have to kind of find that balance right of of you know, this is my dream job and I would love to be here for But yeah, I think you have to kind of find that

balance right of, you know, this is my dream job. And I would love to be here for, you know, 1015 years. But at the same time, like I said, today, like, you got to be aware of your own mortality, like the Celtics have been great before I was here, and they're going to be great, whenever I'm done. And you know, you just have a responsibility and ownership to, to, you know, to be a part of the community win as much as you can and you know leave it a little bit better than you found it and then when your time's up it's the

next guys and that's kind of how I look at it like you know the coaching doesn't really define me you know if it happens you know the next day I gotta take my kids to school and you just focus on the present I got my dream job and I gotta be as present as I can as grateful as I can but. But I'll make some shit up sometimes and be like, man, I'm definitely getting fired. It must be hard to have that mentality when you're getting all these awards like the prestigious NBA Coach of the Month award that you got from March. When I wrote down, I was like 10, I think I pulled out a letter from my 10 year old self and it was like, win Coach of the Month in March, the most important time in NBA basketball. I sat my kids down and I said, listen, like it's not about greatness. It's like, can you just do it for 30 days?

Yeah. Wait, so you should not be allowed to wear any coach of the month for March, 20, 25. Yeah. You can't even look at a graphic of it saying that you're the coach of the month. Wait, so, uh, like you said January, you guys hit a rut. What was the, what was the fix? What was the solution? Cause you still have your job. So congrats on that. Uh, you were very close to getting fired, but what was, what was the thing that you guys were able to figure out that maybe got you out of that? I don't know that we ever, I don't know if there's like one thing. I think like the, the journey of what we're on is can be looked at from different

perspectives, right? There's a one year perspective. There's a two year perspective. There's the 78 years that, you know, uh, most of the core of this team has been together. There's the next three to five. And so I think when you're on his journey, there's just going to be moments of, of, of that where I think it's almost a gift because it tests you as if like, do you really want this?

Do you really want to go after this? Are you only competitive when it's going your way and when you're winning? Can you be as competitive and locked in and dialed in even when we're going through small reps? I thought it was one of the best gifts that we could have as a team that we were going through because it made us appreciate the journey more. You can't just be competitive when you're winning. Like you got to find ways to do it, even when it's not going your way. Do you believe that momentum is real?

I, uh, I do. I think, I think in short stints, yeah, I do believe in that. Like, you know, we talk a lot about like end of quarters, start of quarters, certain plays that could get, get a team going on an eight over on a 10 or run. How do you stop the run? So like, I do believe, you know, in spurts, like spurt ability and stuff like that, that can go on within a game for sure. Cause I know that you're not, you're not always a big believer in using a timeout at end of quarter end of game situations. You like to sometimes depending on what it's like, you let the boys play. But do you, do you ever do the timeout? Like when do you decide now

is the time where I can stop the momentum from the other team by burning a timeout? I think it's a read. I think I can, it depends on like, you know, the, the situation, uh, you know, kind of like the, where, where I feel like the team's psychology is at, like, is it a time for us to work through this? Is it a time for us to like, you know, really, uh, you know, take a second and kind of, you know, regain the perspective of what's happening? Cause sometimes a run happens and it's like, that's just the run of

the game. And sometimes it run happens because you've allowed it to happen by turning it over, making a bad play, uh, not reading the, um, the personnel scout the right way. And so I think it's just kinda, every situation is different and it's just a read depend upon what's best for the team at that time. Yeah. Have you ever had a moment, uh, in an inconsequential game, although they are all consequential where you've burned a timeout at the end of the game knowing like, Hey, I just got to get rid of this timeout. Otherwise people are going to be like, Oh, Joe Missoula taking a timeout with him to the locker room. Cause I would do that. I'd

be like, shit, I got one. I got them all back here on myself. Yeah. You can't be that coach. Yeah. You can't, you can't take one with you to the locker room. So have you ever, you ever been like, Oh shit, we got to get rid of this timeout. You know, the one I hate calling is like when you're down six with like five seconds left and you're just like, it's like you're delaying your own funeral. It's like, let's just get the hell out of here. Like I don't like, and it's like the coach thing to do to call it and you know, draw up a play. And it's just like, there was one time like the staff was like, Hey, we should call this time. I'm playing play and I was like we should get the hell out of here as fast as we can. Yeah it's like so I don't if I call a timeout at least I haven't lost yet.

Yeah right I can still wait for a little bit and we haven't taken the L. Yeah no question. Yeah I know that you're uh you like you like to use clips to motivate your team you clip everything I've read that you you clip from baseball, you clip from soccer games. How like when you're watching just it could be sports, TV, movies, is your brain always in like this could be a good motivational clip mode where you're always on the lookout for stuff? Yeah, I mean, I think that goes back to like the momentum piece where it's not necessarily the momentum, but it's like every game you can watch the game from a

different perspective every time and, and in every competitive arena, there's always a, a player to or a shift or two to where you in every competitive arena, there's always a Player to or a shift or two to where you're like, okay that that's it right there like that could be the difference between you know winning and losing that could be the difference between Whatever the arena is winning the winning the round losing the round And so yeah I mean we try to find the staff does that as well like you try to find as many of those situations as you can They're just constantly coming up and it just keeps it fresh like the perspective to just learn different stuff but there's always the reason why a game or situation shifts and

You got to try to stay on top of that as much as you can is that sports only for you or does it extend to? Like if you're watching Wheel of Fortune, you're like you shouldn't have bought a vowel there. That's where you lost it I've never watched the Wheel of Fortune, but it's not just in sports It could happen in anything else to Like I do a lot with the kids. You know what I mean? Like, you know, a kid slipped my, one of my kids slips up and does something. I'm like, see, like you keep that habit up, you know, it's going to cost you five years from now. You never, you never get into the month. Are you going to use any clips from Rory's masters when, so I'm going to read some stuff on that. I mean, I got a lot of respect for him and that to me is the ultimate, you know, like appreciation of the journey, right? Like,

you know, what really is success because you've had all this success and then, you know, it goes away for a little while and people put all the, the, the worldly and the external pressure on you again. And then now you're creating this thing of like, you have to have to do this and, you know, his ability to, uh, to work through it. That was really cool to see. Um, so yeah, I'm going to, you know, tap into some of the post post post, uh, what would you call it? Match? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Post round. Yeah. Yeah. Post round. Um, there was a, there was a clip speaking eclipse, uh, that went viral a month or so ago of Jason Tatum saying that you tried to fight him in kind

of a joking way. Is that true? And do you think you could take Jason Tatum in a fight? I don't ever like to, I'm not the fighting kind of guy. I always try to instigate other people into doing it first. And no, I've never tried to fight him, but I tried to instigate. I try to instigate people all the time if I could just get a reaction out of them. He does a really good job of not responding most of the time. Yeah. But I did everything in my power to, you know, instigate, uh, you know, just a little bit, um, a little bit of nastiness, you know, after one of the games. Yeah. What was the setup? It was, he had a certain amount of technicals and you wanted him to get another one. No I wanted them to I want them to like I

forgot what I think we were in Portland and I was like instead of getting another technical why don't me and you just like break out into a fight like on the court during the game and you just take your first instead of taking out on the ref and getting a tech just take it out on me and see where it goes. It would have been a great clip to have everyone watch in real time. Then afterwards Jason Tatum gets to the, to the like press conference. He's like, yeah, he asked me to fight him. Like that's what he wanted. How great would it be? Like if instead of like going, you know, instead of getting out

of ref, you only got two, a guy just like be lines to the, to your own bench and now you're just like, yeah, who knows what could happen? Do you? I did pitch my idea to Adam silver about every, every player should get a fight, a fan, one, one fight with a fan every single year. Do you want me to extend that to coaches as well? I think so. Okay. You, you, you could, you only get one though. So you can't like, you can't go out and burn it in, in like October. No, you can't, but do you get rollover like from season to season and then you just take them with them. You can't take it with you. Yeah. If you, if you don't use it, you lose it. So I got to call timeouts and use my user to lose it.

Yes. Yes. Exactly. That would make the end of, yeah, it would make March games way more exciting for all the players and coaches that hadn't burned their fight yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, I know that that part of your job is, or a big part of your job is trying to like just establish the culture in Boston and our, keep the culture going from where it has been in the past. And I saw that you said that basketball is like 10th on the list of the most important things that you do as a head coach. What comes before basketball? Um, I think like the think the relationships with the guys,

the relationships with the entire organization. I've said this a couple of times. When we walk into the building every day, I'm the fifth or sixth person that the player sees. And so if we don't have ultimate alignment as an organization, and the security guard or the guy at the front that opens up the door or the kitchen staff you know or the janitors or like if there if we're not all on the same page and

You know they see the players before I do and you know for whatever reason their interaction doesn't impact winning Then that could change the way, you know, once the guy steps on the court that could change the way he prepares You know for practice or for a game and so I think the biggest thing is one, you know, you know, building relationships with the guys, but then building a relationship with all the touch points of the organization. Cause there's so many things behind the scenes that people don't see. Like I said, by the time if practice starts at 11, there's like 10 interactions between the players and other employees of the organization before we even stepped foot on practice. So I think those things are the most important. Yeah. What do you like to see from the kitchen staff in terms

of increasing competitiveness? Uh, you know, some anger, like you can't just be back there. Like just, you know, whipping up stuff with a smile on your face all the time. You know, like sometimes we got to lock in. Yeah. Yeah. Some aggression when it comes to beating those eggs up. Yeah. I liked that. Yeah. Um, is Jalen your food, your filthy animal? Yeah. Is Jalen Brown going to be healthy, ready to go? He's always healthy mentally, physically, emotionally. I mean, I think that guy, like people don't really understand, uh, you know, the, the, like the warrior mentality that that guy has, like they really don't. And, um, his ability to, uh, you know, navigate himself and regulate himself and

like put himself through certain things like there's not a guy that trains his his mind and body this the same and you know who knows himself better like you know from that standpoint and and he's talked about that a little bit so you know he'll be gearing up and and you know he has the ability to take it to another level Just like any second. Okay, so he's gonna be healthy for the playoffs Yeah, when he's rocking like the fingerless gloves and the leather jacket. Are you like? Yes, this is awesome This guy's this motherfucker is locked in First time I saw those were in Miami. I was like, I was like, bro Like what we got going on and I thought he was using something on a fan

Like what we got going on. I thought he was using something on a fan. But to me it's like it's more about like just the self-expression of the guys. I love seeing all the different types of personalities, you know, that our team has to offer him. And you know, you got you got dads, you got fathers of five, three, you got guys that are single, you got just so many different personalities. And I appreciate that Jalen's, you know, comfort and security and who he is and his ability to express that like all the time. You know, I learn a lot so many different personalities and I appreciate that Jalen's you know comfort and security and who he is and his ability to express that like all the time. You know I learned a lot from that. Yeah I saw a really cool moment. You. Is this story correct that you basically told Al Horford he has to go to the national championship game because I feel like a lot

of coaches wouldn't do that. They would. They'd let their player go but to tell him like no you have to go. Is that how it went down. Um, did he say that? I, I saw a story about it to basically you're like, you gotta go. No, yeah. I was like, dude, you can't miss this. Like you have to go. Um, you know, like to me that stuff, uh, is really important to Al. If you could, if you're like, I'm sure you guys, I don't know if you've seen it, but every time he starts after he goes through the line, he does the Gator Chop, right? And so like, you just know that that part of his life, you know, that school, that organization

is that important to him and the pride he takes in it that, you know, 17 years later, he's still doing that. And, you know, he's big on family and, you know, experiences that are close to him and for him to bring his son to that and, and have his son kind of be around what his dad has done, you know, throughout his journey, you just can't miss opportunities like that. Like you'll regret that, uh, you know, instantly. Yeah.

Um, speaking of college basketball, did West Virginia give you a call, just to call? No, they did, but not to, not to coach the team. Okay. They have to make you say no. They should have called in January. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But there was no call. Like I imagine there was like a moment where you were just sitting with Brad Stevens and both being like, should we do it? Like, should I go coach Indiana? Should I go coach West Virginia? Like, let's just fucking do it. Not a second. Okay. Okay. Never never never came out. I don't even think of that.

What did they call about then? Uh, a couple of people that I knew they were talking about that I had worked with, you know, that were up for the job. Got it. It would have been nice if they just asked though. Yeah. I like that they didn't because then that should that they just know I can't go back. Yeah.

Yeah. Well, also maybe that yeah, they were trying to motivate they're like if they didn't because then that should that they just know I can't go back. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, also, maybe that yeah, they were trying to motivate They're like if we don't call him then he's gonna take that personal and he's gonna think I'm not even good enough to coach At West Virginia right now. Yeah Are we really good enough to do anything? Yeah, that's such a deep question. I don't know. I don't know I mean like are we really good enough to do anything? No, no Probably not. So we have to fight every day to prove that we can yeah Hank you got any questions for coach? Yeah. What's up coach? Uh, your best friend Hank with the two seed

kind of being locked up for the last month or so of the season. One of the things they kept, you know, talking about on the broadcast was the Celtic single season three point record and there was three guys going for it. Was that something you talked about with them? Is that something they knew about? We're kind like battling for? Was it kind of just an unspoken whatever happens, happens thing? Who ended up getting it? Derek White. Yeah. Um, I didn't really hear about it until I think what the Memphis game is when Derek got it. Yeah. Yeah. So I heard about it at the Memphis game and then, you know, we kind of joked about it and then I, you know, I didn't really mention it after that. Yeah Is Hank invited back on the duck boat if you guys wouldn't go back to back? He's invited anywhere

Love that. He actually Hank knows you very well. I gotta tell the story So you were going to stop by in Chicago in our office in it was like lost Yeah, December So the game is on its Bulls because it was one of those weird NBA Yeah. December. So the game is on its bowls because it was one of those weird NBA scheduling quirks where the Bulls played the Celtics in Boston and they played. They went and came and played here and it was the game that you got the technical and then you went and wished the ref happy holidays and Hank. We had the game on. There was a football game on and Hank just turned so he's like yeah coaches and coming in tomorrow and we're like you

think so. And then like we wake up the next day and the Texas right right there. He's like, yeah, coaches and coming in tomorrow. And we're like, you think so? And then like we wake up the next day and the text is right, right there. He's like, Hey, we can't come in. It's like, I ain't called it. He knows you well. Like after a loss like that and a technical foul, you're like, I gotta, I got work to do. I got to lock in. I got overly low. You know, that was a, I had to lay low for a few weeks on the, after that one. Yeah. Yeah. He knows you well. Yeah. Have you seen that since then? And did you go up and say, Hey, you didn't give me a card back? Like what's going on? Yeah. We had him yesterday. We were cordial. We were good yesterday. Yeah. Did he have a good holiday? Did you? Cause you were obviously, yeah, you were so interested in his holidays. Did you follow up? It was less about him and more about, you know, the

environment. And, uh, you know, I and more about you know the environment and you know, I think sometimes, you know if we talk about like the momentum and shifting things and you know That was really just kind of that had nothing to do with him as much as it did Like I felt like that was necessary to control the arena You know whether it was for that that particular moment or two weeks down the line So that that was like that was just kind of a calculated thing. Yeah. I also love the, you know, the brotherhood you're forming with the other coaches of Boston teams with Frabel coming in now. Like how why do you think that's so important that all four sports and head

coaches are in sync? Yeah, I think I need to. I haven't reached out to the revolution coach yet. I got to be better at that. Not a real sport. My. Yeah, real sport. Come on. Yeah. I just think like we all carry the, uh, it's a little bit of everything, right? We carry the responsibility, the ownership, the expectation, uh, to

deliver for, you know, for this city. And so I think you can do a bunch of things. You can figure out how, you know, guys that are doing it a little bit different and you can't simulate, you know, the guy next to you having that he's got a winner championship. He's got to, you know, win this and, and getting into the mindset and some of the tactics and the things that different coaches do. To me, that's just super important. You got to stick together and you got to, you know, you got to use each other to get through that. Yeah. What have you learned from talking to a football coach that translates to basketball? using each other to get through that. Yeah. What have you learned from talking to a football coach that translates to basketball? I really like the practice plans. So I love how they build their practice plans and the efficiency with which they get from like drill to drill in a practice. And so sometimes I'll

use those practice templates because even though it's three phases to a football game, there's kind of three phases to a basketball game, right? Like there's offense to defense, defense to offense, dead ball situations after free throw. So there's so many different, it's not just you're on offense and you're on defense, which I think a lot of people look at the game that way. So you know, just looking at the different ways that they build practice plans, where they build a language, like how they build their playbook. And then really

fascinated by the pre snap motion. I think you've seen a lot of teams run these like NFL routes at the end of games. And so trying to really be creative about these pretty snap motions and turn those into like in the game plays, but you see a lot of coaches doing that. Yeah. What about soccer? Cause I know that Peps your guy. Yeah. So what have you translated from soccer into basketball? Cutting a place, you know, the way you cut can open up a two on one, you know, for the guy next to you or the guy, you know, two passes away, where you kind of attack from, you know, not just attacking from, you know, certain spots, you can attack

from different spots. But even more than that, so I like the passion that he coaches with, and, and, you know, the what the players say about him You know those things are just as important as a tactical stuff But you know a lot of a lot of the cutting a lot of the two-on-one reads a lot of like to move the defense That stuff comes from soccer. That's my favorite sport to watch. Yeah. Oh shit Yeah, that's so that comment when I said not a real sport That was great. That was awkward

when I said not a real sport. That was great. That was awkward. I got a question. So your former assistant Charles Lee, who coaches the Hornets, you just, you just coached against him on Sunday. Uh, you, you famously told him like, Hey, we're not friends now that you're, you know, when we're, when we're coaching, did you, were you friendly with him on Sunday at all? Have you changed your, your tone on that? Like, like I'm not going to wave you high five. I'm not going to talk to you. Uh, we're, we're competitors and we're going against each other. So we did, I, I did bend the rule a little bit because like you said, it was, it was game 81 and 82. Everything was kind of set in stone a little bit. So there was, you know, I kind of got out of the competitive arena a little bit, went to dinner the night before the first day. Um, you know, there was really nothing at stake with the exception

of, uh, you know, going against him. Um, but you know, he's been really good. Like he, he taught me how to be more positive, you know, and how to be more, you know, like some people would just have a gift of like positive energy. Yeah. Hank. Yeah. I don't have that. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have that. Wait, wait, wait. So were you mad at him at all though? Because he did come out and say that he thought this year Celtics team was better than last year's. Um, that's, he said that's poison. Yeah. That's rat poison. You can't let him say that. Yeah. I didn't know he said that. He said they were good last year and I feel like they got even better. I think the bench has gotten deeper seeing what Peyton Pritchett has been able

to do this year. He had so much to the team, Sam Howser, Luke Cornett, those guys really contributed a lot. Um, so yeah, he thinks you guys are better this year. You can't let him say that. What if one of your players reads that? So we got practice tomorrow, so I'll make sure we take care of that. It, it's like the whole starter practice is like Charles Lee's actually an idiot, just so you guys know. You guys suck compared to last year. Last year, Steve was so I liked you guys so much better a year ago. Yeah. Yeah. You should simulate it on like NBA 2k and be like, I did it last night. We'll have that clip in the, in the hour back center first thing tomorrow. We'll have that clip in the, in the hour back center first thing tomorrow morning.

I love it. Do you have a, uh, uh, yeah, you have a message for your team going to the first round of the playoffs. Have you decided what it's going to be yet? Working on that today. I think the biggest thing is it's not even really for our team, right? Because we're always, uh, bouncing back between short term, long term houses, helpless now? Like the season gives you so many situations to be like, hey, you know, this five game stretch, we're going to simulate first round of the playoffs, this 10 game stretch, we're going to simulate. So it's not even that it's really just like you just have to go in with with an open mind as far as like, there's just no one way to go about achieving your goal.

Like if you study, everybody focuses on the team after they win. But if you study the rounds leading up to, you know, a successful team, there's no curriculum of like, you have to go five, this one, you have to go six, this one, you can't go seven here, you can't lose game one. You can't lose game two. And there's just, there's no rhyme or reason to how teams go about winning. And so like, we just, we just can't have any expectations. Like whatever it takes, however long it takes. Like if it takes, you know, three overtime games,

six straight times, then that's what it takes. And I think being open-minded to knowing that it'll be one of the hardest things that we ever, you know, go through together, we'll make it, you know, we'll make the journey more fun. So you said that you simulate playoff series during the regular season over the course of like random five game, seven game, 10 ten game stretches how did you guys do in

the playoffs this year yeah um we were pretty good we were six and oh we use that that road trip that six game road trip as like a playoff series okay I like that so wow that's got our minds off of like being on the road for 13 days and and like every team we were playing you know they were better than us at one thing and we would like really fought to like take that one thing away and that was a good that was a good trip for us and you know I thought that gave us I thought that brought us closer together as a team. Yeah. Are you going to watch the playing games and are you is there a preference Hank has already said he would

rather have the Hawks. Yeah I mean I'll watch it and then as soon as it's over that's when we'll like you know tomorrow's a big day. You know, one of the biggest days in our, in our history, uh, with practice, which, you know, I think is the best, you know, tomorrow, I'm being serious. The guy that big funny all the time. Cause like, it'll be like a game today and we'll have like a practice scheduled on the calendar. I'm like, fellas, like today's good, but like Tuesday's the big day. Ever had a practice where you're like, this practice doesn't really make a difference. I don't really care. Uh, probably like a couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. You got it every now and then.

I knew we were going to have, I knew we were going to have a tough stretch to season because you know, Sam Cassell is, is, you know, one of our top assistant and I rely on him because he's been around the league so much. And to this day, I still wear him out, but we were in Abu Dhabi and we had gone like two, three days in a row and the travel was bad. And, and I was like, Hey Sam, like, you know, what should we do? Like, I think we should have practice today. And he's like, I'll give him a day off, you know, being nice to him.

And I was like, you know, you're going to fucking, you know, you're going to set up like, this is going to come back to kill us. No, we're in the middle of January and like, we're not playing well. And I was like, Sam, this all started when you gave it that, when you took the day off in Abu Dhabi. I mean, you could, yeah, you gotta make, you gotta make these things up in your head anyway. You can't sweet. You're not going to say hawks or magic, right? No, I mean, I think both teams, like I said, every team in the league is better than I said something. Every team in the league presents a huge threat and every team in the league is, is dangerous. And you know, at the end

of the day, like you don't get to pick who you play, which is what part of what I like about the playoffs and, and whoever it is, they're gonna, they're gonna have a great game plan and they're gonna have things that we're going to have to really work at to exploit on both ends of the floor. I like that mentality. What are the what are the Philadelphia 76ers better than you at? So at the time remember they beat us on Christmas Day you know, which was a tough game there and At the time it was their ability to play on transition and forced turnovers Mm-hmm, like, you know, they did a great job heading into game four or three at Philadelphia

They were like the best turnover forcing team in the league which allowed them to get out in transition You know and then with their ability to play Yabi Selle at the floor They were able to kind of stretch the defense out So we had to change our matchups and go to some different coverages So like every team in the league can bend your you know bend your identity and force you to go to different things And I felt like this season we you you know, we developed a bunch of different identities playing a bunch of teams like that. What, what are the Cleveland Cavs good at?

Because Hank, if you ask him, nothing, he doesn't think he thinks it's no problem. Yeah. I mean, I think, I think there are, you know, I think the thing about them is they were really, they were great last year. Yeah. They were, they were great. Like great like they won 17 out of 18 This year, I think they've stayed healthier longer and they've gotten some depth with that and you know, Deandre hunter I think Mowgli has gotten better. You know, I think they're just they're well coached

You know, they obviously got a great backcourt and they can play different ways I like they're they're really versatile defensively and then they can play different ways offensively as well. But they've, they've been this good for like two, three years in my opinion. Yeah. Yeah. We'll put some respect on the Cavs name. Yeah. Are you disappointed that some of your fan base is disrespecting the Cavs?

Like giving them motivation? I mean, I would, I think we're going to have to, you know, sit Hank down and kind of give him a stern talking to about how this all goes down. Well, I don't have to back any of this up. I can just, you know, believe, believe in you and the team and then, yeah, it's good to have a confidence guy. He's the confidence guy. Hank also doesn't really respond well to stern talking to that's not, that's not his strength. Did he get too drunk on the parade day? I don't think so. I mean, is there

ever such a thing, Frank? Yeah, no, he's good. Does he have to shave his head? Uh, if you guys win again, we got to come up with something bigger than that. Yeah. So patch, so patch. Yeah. What do you think about the soul patch coach? Oh, I think he'll look good. You want to do soul patch for your like that, that haircut. Can you grow like the Dallas Texas one where you're just the back of your, uh, a mullet, a mullet. No, but it's like just the back is hair and everything else is like really, really short. Oh, like the, uh, what, who is that? The rat tail? No, I think like Morgan wall and kind of has it. Yeah. Yeah. You'd look good with that. You would look good with that. I can do that. Um, all right, coach, I got one last question. Row back question,

R H O B C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rowback.com promo code take. It's always fun having you on. Best of luck in the playoffs. My last question is, is there a new movie that you got that you've been obsessively watching? Because obviously we talked to you last year about the town.

Do you have a new one in the rotation? So 11 days, we got the Accountant II coming out. Yeah. That was like. That's so perfect. So 11 days we've got the accountant to come out. Yeah. Perfect. I mean, how many times if it, all right, so let's say you guys go back to back and we have you back on after you win it all at, at that time. So it'll be what two months from now. How many times would you have guessed you've seen accountant to, Oh, I mean every off day in between a game, if if it's if it's as good as I think it's gonna be I'll watch it every off day in between.

Unreal isn't it? Yeah, I just saw it for the first time on Friday actually. What have you been doing for the last like 15 years? I've been watching the town mostly. It's a good movie though. I like how Ben Affleck just walking around cold as ice not really showing any emotion, but Deadly Killer. Yeah, it's great. It's a lot movie though. I like how I've been after like just walking around cold as ice not really showing any emotion But Deadly Killer. Yeah, it's great. It's a lot of cool guns Taxes. Yeah Yeah, it's a great movie. All right, that's a great answer accountant, too But we're gonna we gotta save some time to like go back to old faithful and still watch the town Like are you are you worried the two the three like playoff old faithfuls of the town the dark knight rises and there's a there's a

there's a great documentary on Apple TV called Restrepo yeah have you seen Restrepo yeah not yeah that's intense yeah you know what I'm learning to memorize it is the the the frog speech from lone survivor okay okay how far along are we like Like I'll watch that scene before games sometimes. Like I love that. I, I'm, I'm not where I need to be in memorizing it, but I'm pretty close, you know, around the world. Yeah. The world talks to everybody once. Uh huh. F then the four world fair. Yeah. It is good speech. I know what speech you're talking about. You can cuss too. You can say fuck. Yeah. Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet.

Oh, I like that. Yeah, I like that a lot. So are we using the large calibers in the first series? Are we saving those? You got to have the 28 potential games. You need 28 large caliber bullets. Yeah. Well, except for the calves games, those can be just like peace. What's the rest of that one? So it's like been around the world twice, talk to everybody once seen three worlds, fuck been to four world fairs. Let's see. And then he's like, I even drive those things are when you hit the brakes, it goes. Here we go. Been around the world twice.

Talk to everyone once see to seen two wheels fuck been to three world fairs. I push more Peter more sweeter more completer than any Peter pusher around I'm a hard-bodied hairy chested rooting tootin shooting parachuting demolition double cap crimping frog man there ain't nothing I can't do no sky too high no see too rough no muff too tough I like that yeah I think there I disagree with that one I think that there are a couple muffs that are too tough. Been a lot of lessons in my life about mediocrities. Like, you know, anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation is for cowards. Moderation for cowards. I like that. I like that. Cheers boys. Moderation for cowards.

Oh, you missed the part. You missed the part about never shoot a large caliber. I learned a few things. Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet. Yeah, I did. I think I skipped a couple things here. Let's see. Been a lot of lessons in my life. Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet. Drove all kinds of trucks, two buys, four buys, six buys.

And those big motherfuckers have been to go, shh, shh, when you step step on the brakes anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing Moderations for cowards all wine dine intertwine and sneak out the back door when refueling is done So if you're feeling froggy, then you better jump because this frog man's been there done. That is going back for more Cheers boys Oh, that's a good speed. It's hard. I mean I got goosebumps right now. Yeah, you got to do it No muff too tough. You got to's hard. I mean, I got goosebumps right now. Yeah, you got to do it. No muff too tough. You got to do that. I like moderation. Moderation is for cowards.

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All right, let's wrap up with some guys on chicks Hank yeah Do it. Hey father of three cat PDF Hank and Max Spin my boyfriend has never usually been a sleep talker or snore and is usually very fast asleep all night However for the flat last two weeks He has been very active in his sleep one time he rolled over and grabbed me and said she's so cool Automatically said what did you say and he went back to sleep? Is he dreaming about other girls do all guys do this or should I be worried about something else here?

I asked him about it. He said how can I remember it was a dream and I was asleep But it feels like he's lying to me about that How do I get to the bottom of this and he is is he thinking about cheating on me is he sleep-cheating now? That's you've got more evidence there than if a girl wakes up and she gets mad at you because she had a dream that You cheated on her sleep talking is not evidence sleep talking is's not evidence die on that hill can I make a confession? I? Your sleep bag I'll die on that hill at sleep talking is on knowing in the dart stream That's Kurt Kurt Kurt Kurt so much worse ah

I have a confession. I and I think we all have done this I'm a mouth tape guy now. Same. Are you? I've been a mouth tape guy. I didn't do it for sleep talking, which I actually have like not, I don't sleep talk as much as I used to. It's only when I'm super, super like, you know,

four hours of sleep, then I get kind of crazy. But I think I'm just, I think this is gonna be the year for junk science for me. Like I think I'm gonna do it. What? What do you mean the year? I'm gonna go all in the junk side. You've been a junk sign But I'm gonna go like all like I was looking at I saw there's something called the I think it's a lymphatic Massage I saw that too. Yeah, we're like makes your jawline look sick I got the I got the mouth tape. I'm about to be a cold plunge guy. What else? Well, now what was that? Now? What? What was that? Hey, what was that? How many

when? How many cold plungers you're gonna do this year? Well, I've I'm I'm remodeling my basement area. What's the target date? I have a gym and I'm getting a cold plunge in a sauna. Okay. No big deal. Sauna? You could be a sauna guy. Yeah, sauna's incredible.

It's the best for hangovers. Tell me. Let's say, let's say, let's say. Tell me Mr. Dunker Six Pack. Tell me how many cold plunges I'm gonna do. I'm asking you. Let's see, you guys install July 1st. What if I get addicted?

365 days, you're gonna do that's gonna you let's see you guys install July 1st. What if I get addicted? 365 days you're gonna do X Cool, I'm going to try to cold plunge three times a week Have you ever done a hundred? Yeah a year we did for the dog stream, okay? Yeah, you remember do you ever like her right when I moved to really mean I? Said I got a cold punch. I did the same thing I did it for two weeks you remember when I moved here And I was like I'm gonna be a cold plunge guy and you guys were like that's a stupid idea but I'm now I'm in and

What I did was I went I went shopping online And I had it in my cart, and it was a cold day outside that day, and I was like fuck this I'm not doing a cold plunge in Chicago. You're saying that because it's been nice for the last couple days So like yeah, I could do well. No I started like negative five outside. I started the planning of the rebuilding like in the middle of winter. So I listen Hank might be right. Yeah, there's a good chance I mean good Jerry I am getting a real punch though And we will we will be attempting to cold put the indoor cold plunge makes it doable the out I know it's indoor. It... I looked into getting an outdoor one.

Yeah. No, that's crazy. Then the problem with me is you have to go up steps to get there. I have a hot tub outside and I still, like, when it's cold, I'm like, Oh, it's too cold. Yeah. It's like, but it's a hot tub. The first key for me should have been like, if I'm really planning on taking my fitness seriously, but I refuse to walk up one flight of steps to get to the cold plunge. Maybe I just need to get off this altogether.

My cold plunge will be in my basement. So that does you go down. There is. Yeah. But then I got to go back up. Listen, Hank could very well be right, but I'm going to be trying. I believe in you. I've gone in and out of the cold plunge phase. I mean, I bought one for my, for my house and then I did it probably like three weeks and then stopped. There's one at my gym that I said I was going to start like April. I was like, all right, I'm going to get to cold plunge every day. And then someone told me that doing the cold plunge immediately after you work out actually is bad for like-

So when the fuck am I supposed to do it? Right. So then that was it. After that, I was like, all right, I'm probably never cold plunge again. Because I was like, all right, workout, sauna, cold plunge. That's bad. People say first thing in the morning you said that I have no idea I do the sauna after you should do the sauna before who told you that that was bad a Guy that worked at the gym. I think you go back there's like I I used to do it

When I was like actually training like every time after I worked out because that was like what you were you would you would do like? But like one guy telling you at the gym. No another guy backing up Hank. I'm backing up Hank I'm backing up Hank if if someone has cold plunge more than five times. They're an expert in my head But like there's multiple experts like there's there's another You know when I went I worked the the exos guys when we used to do, remember we, before the combine, they put us through a workout? Cold plunging can potentially interfere with the muscle hypertrophy process. I can't have that.

What does that mean? You don't want to give up your hypertrophy. No, the hypertrophies, that's the best trophy. That's hypertrophy. Maybe there's been new science that has come out. You think Belichick's girlfriend touches the hyper trophy before anybody else Who cares you shouldn't be able to know that word But it just for information experience after a workout isn't just a byproduct of muscle damage

It's a crucial signal for muscle apparent growth by blunting this inflammatory response Cold plunging can potentially interfere with the muscle hypertrophy process. It's been perfect because my gym has been saying that they're going to get a cold plunge for the last year and a half and they never do. Yeah. Which is actually great because I'm like, oh sick, I'm going to use that all the time. But them not having it is great because I never actually have to do it. Listen, we're going to give it a shot. I'm going to give it a shot. I'm going to try to junk science my way to, to, to help. Mouth tape is good though. Mouth tape is good. I can't do that.

You go to sleep at night and you close up, you close up on your breathing holes? It feels, I do feel more rested with mouth tape. It just forces you to breathe out, you can still breathe out of your mouth too. Yeah, you can. Like, I do it and try not to breathe out of my mouth, but I end up breathing out of my mouth.

But what if you get like a stuffy nose? Well, you can still breathe out, it's like It's breathable tape over your and every your mouth if you have like a really stuffy nose I won't put it on same do they do they mark it as like a spider prevention so you won't eat spiders in your sleep You should I also have those things that open up your nostrils, so I do both your What you're just that thaton Halls. What? You're just that influencer guy.

Does he do that? I've never watched any of those videos. It was one of those where people were talking about it and I was behind the loop and I never got into it. The morning routine. Meatball. So junk science this year. You know what I do to get to sleep.

Send me all your junk science, I'm in. Also I would say for the actual question like oh Yeah, there was a question. No one knows what you're saying in your sleep No one has any like people will just sleep talk and they have no Recollection of what they were dreaming about or what they were saying so they should not be and yes sometimes guys Like dream about girls, but that doesn't mean that he's cheating. He just wants to fuck him. Yeah, probably your friend right You know I do to go to sleep now. I got the sleep blindfold that has Bluetooth speakers Oh, I bought one ears change my life. I need to

Change my life not always for the better. I sleep more I Sleep harder, but then I'll wake up at like 3 o'clock in the morning And I'll have because the YouTube algorithm just like keeps feeding you the different recommended video. I wake up in the morning It'll be like four hours of airport traffic at Heathrow. I have a fix for you there. Do you know, this changed my life, there is a sleep timer on your iPhone.

What? If you go to your timer setting. Shut up. And you put a timer, there's an option at the very bottom to say stop playing. Oh. And it'll stop playing whatever is on your phone in like 20 minutes.

I do it every single night. Can I say one last thing that I bought that you guys are gonna laugh at the most? Probably the most ridiculous, like I bought this. I'm gonna be, thank you Max, I'm gonna be a better person. And you guys are going to laugh at me and be like there's zero percent chance

you'll ever ever ever use it Can you guess? It's not the Bible. It's not real junk science a solid spinner. No, that was mean, but no well Hank said the Bible did golf clubs, I but also mean condoms also mean I bought a Book lamp Have a kindle that just proves a point about that proves thanks for I was laughing. I was like you're a fucking idiot

We're also hey Hank saying like you have a kindle. Yeah, you don't need a book. You have a kindle You don't need a book lamp for a kindle. I don have a Kindle. I don't know how the fucking things. No, you can kindle the screen, but I'm trying I'm trying to not You know look at my phone I think it's pretty bad like the other it hit me the other night when I was watching a guy get trampled by an Elephant and then closed the Twitter app and then just went to sleep and I was like this isn't good So I'm gonna try to read Nice Went to sleep and I was like this isn't good. So I'm gonna try to read Nice Memes is just face-swapping back here. Oh man. Okay

Next one. Hey big cat Patrickometer Hank Rockwood not going to the White House max and never going to get the lottery ball memes My boyfriend and I have been dating for a little over a year and have moved in together. PFT is peeing. I asked to use a medical emergency while he was at work, which she agreed to while using it. I noticed I had access to all his old texts and photos from his phone. Oh God. I don't know. Spent hours scrolling and saw the text he would send girls before we started dating and even old nude photos of other girls. Should I say something to him or is it fair game since it was before we were together and is it normal for him to keep those old photos? You're a bad person. Yeah. Yes, it's fair game. Yeah. Well, no, he never dated anyone before you. Hold on.

I think it's different if it's in the fair game to break to mention it so he can fucking. Yeah. So he can scram. Yeah, it's a, I think it's fair game to have to mention it so he can fucking yeah so he can stomp him yeah it's uh i think it's fair game to have the old photos if they're still in the text message to save them would be a little different yeah but what if you save them in real time true like what do you ever go back and delete stuff this is a crazy move by her because i think if you like you can't i don't care who you're talking about friend girlfriend wife boyfriend husband whatever how people text dude oh that's is there is there a stone in there no stone I'll give us someone a thousand dollars you know how to drink water when you

have thousand dollars I drink I drink almost so much water. I almost died last night Why is that thing orange because it's got blood in it you thousand dollars six it means I thought about it, but blood about yeah blood you're out uh No one's text messages should be out there no They're just the way you text is not the way the world works like whenever someone shows a text message just like be out there. No, they're just the way you text is not the way the world works. Like whenever someone shows a text message, it's like, yeah, man, they were talking to their friends or they were sexting. Like you just can't do that.

There also might be a chance that this was in some weird part of the cloud, maybe from several phones ago. Like you ever get surprised by a photo that you had forgotten about because it was like 2007 that somehow made its way to your cloud. Yeah, it's usually just pictures of Stella That's it it's all I got all right last one I love golf myself But I'm wondering what your take is on a husband going on a destination golf trip when his wife is eight and a half Months pregnant with their first kid

I'm a bit nervous in case anything happens, but also want him to have a good time with the guys before the baby comes. What would y'all do? Thanks. Yeah, sure, that sounds fine. She definitely won't hold this against you for the rest of her life.

No, this woman seems like the absolute opposite from the last woman. Yeah. Even asking that question means like she's not completely out against it, even though she should be completely out. Eight and a half months. That's insane. I think it was more of a that's not even a question. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Over a year. Hold on. First babies usually do come around on time. Like that's like the second and third babies comes a little earlier. I'm going to say no.

How far away? Destination, it implies some time zones. If he's close enough to be on a flight. Yeah, he probably can't do it. Eight months is usually is about to cut off. I think this is posed by her. What if the what if the trip was planned like 13 months ago? I mean, I'm also saying this is my third child.

I was in West. I landed in West Virginia when my wife's water broke I did make it but that was also work like I was work is and I didn't make it for for the birth But that was also very like that was so stressful max. I disagree I don't think that she's asking it because she still thinks it might be cool I think she's asking it so that we say it because she has told him like Even the part of my take guys would say that this is fucked up. I think depends where it is. Why don't you just bring her with you? Yeah? Mm-hmm. Just put her up a place put her up at a hospital Yeah, there are hospitals in and just Jupiter, Florida. Yeah. Yeah, you probably you probably can't go here's what I'll the real answer

If I missed the birth of any of my children I would be heartbroken like it's not like olden days where I mean olden days dudes would just fucking Sit in the hallway with a cigar being like alright, baby ready. Yeah, those are the best dudes would hand out cigars Yeah, like I did it guys. Yeah You you would be very very upset if you that's what you should just say to him like you can go But like have you thought about what happens if the baby's born you'd be pretty bummed out I think personally but golf but with the boys the boys does make it a little trickier alright fun show boys fun show uh memes hello You're never going to get it.

I would like to. Okay. New machine? Friday? Oh, if you get it right now? You don't like the new machine idea. No sense. It's going to look like the exact same machine.

No, it makes perfect sense because then the narrative starts. What if we get new balls? No, you got to get a new machine. Yeah, then you got a new machine. And none of us have ever gotten it. No, balls? No. You got to get a new machine. We got a new machine. And none of us have ever gotten it. No, we didn't. We need to get a new machine when I want it.

I'll personally pay for a new machine. Oh, should we sim? Sim real quick. Do one more sim. Yeah, we'll do one. Numbers. Three. Oh, 77.

93. One. 52. All right, first one up oh bulls Wow Hell yes, that shouldn't be possible that would be crazy 99 crazy 21 All right do it again I

Thought we were just doing one no do it do it do it best of seven we can't that's of seven We got so lucky last San Antonio. Give me a break. Yeah, Philly All right Utah oh you're not even close pfd. I'm so oh you're not even so bad. It's every team Miami. Oh my god It's every team pfd Miami again Phoenix to Houston Yeah, did you just say yes to me? I saw the Wizards logo. Yeah he did.

The Wizards logo is at 6! That's like worst case scenario. How many of these that we were doing? Until he gets to Utah. We've done like 10 of them. Oh my god. New Orleans. PFT this is every team. It, it's all right. We're getting Katie All right, everyone say your numbers again fifty two three seven one seven ninety three

21. 71. Never gonna get it memes. Friday. Love you guys. So So so So So So Thanks for watching!