Pardon My Take - CFB Realignment With Andy Staples, Djokovic The GOAT, Zach Wilson May Have That Dog In Him Plus Mt Rushmore Of CFB Traditions

Episode Date: July 11, 2022

Novak Djokovic is the one true GOAT and we talk a little tennis. (00:02:29-00:07:34) Baker gets traded to the Panthers and Zach Wilson may be banging his mom's best friend. (00:07:35-00:20:05) F1 talk even though we didnt watch the race. (00:20:06-00:22:00) Who's back of the week goes sideways into a hypothetical Lebron/Steph vs Magic/MJ debate and Brett Favre is open to being the Color Analyst on MNF. (00:23:30-00:45:27) Andy Staples joins the show to talk CFB realignment, whats going to happen to Notre Dame, and how the Big 12 may be in a great spot going forward. We finish with the Mt Rushmore of College Football Traditions. (00:46:27-01:44:50)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have our good friend Andy Staples to talk college football realignment and Mount Rushmore of college football traditions. We're under 50 days left before college football comes back and then NFL is right behind. Football is back Hank. Football is back.

Hell yeah. We're back. We're going to talk a little tennis, we're going to talk a little, I don't know what else is going on. Do you have F1? We got some quarterback news. Milfhunter. Yeah, Baker.

We got Milfhunter, Baker. We're in some, we're in some dog days, but we're going to, we're going to grind it out. Great show coming. And we also have Who's Back. We're brought to you by our friends at Visible. What would you do with extra money? You'd save from switching to Visible. You could pay $60 with some carriers.

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Courgeos? Yeah, Curios. Curios. Curios. I liked it. Leather Curios. Yeah, nice try. He's an interesting guy.

Yeah. He was wearing a tank top, but also had a sleeve shirt underneath. It was the Matt Rule. Yeah, it was quite in the backwards hat with the brim pointed up. He is the bad boy of tennis. Oh yeah, his flowchart goes like either scream at his opponent because he just won a point or scream at whoever's closest to him because he just lost a point and he couldn't possibly be his fault.

He blamed some drunk woman. Tried to get her kicked out. That was the queen. Yeah, it was. Said some woman in a dress that looks like she said 700 beers. Yeah, it's just, it's talking too much. Maybe you were just going up against the goat, Novak Djokovic. It was funny hearing John McEnroe have to dissect Curios' like manners.

Which is crazy because it's like that's that's John McEnroe watching John McEnroe at one point after like the 700 drinks with that woman in the dress comment, McEnroe was like, it's actually just a, it's a child that is, that doesn't know that he's not allowed to speak. Right. And I like Curios because you'd like anyone who's their own worst enemy, athletes who are their own worst enemy. It feels like he's a mental head case and Novak Djokovic, the goat officially passes

Roger Federer in championships, major championships, one away from Nadal, who just wins Mickey Mouse clay ones every single time. Well, he had to withdraw due to injury. Yeah. Which actually hurt Djokovic because he had to play a guy who had extra rest. Yes. But I think it's, it's firmly established. He is the goat.

Say you, Jake, go ahead and try to come at me. You can't. Well, he was the goat of Wimbledon. No. He's still trailing by one and all Rafa does is win on clay. And also, uh, they try to keep my man's out of Australia and that's why Nadal won Australia. And he might not be playing in here in New York next month. That'd be a shame.

He's going to end up with 30. There might not be any big three in us open. Why? Oh, cause Djokovic, are we still hurt? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right.

As old, forget Roger. Right now. We're in the United States and we don't know if Rafa's going to recover from this injury in time. Bad boy. Bad boy life. Could be wide open. What's, what's the stat?

Cause it's something crazy. Like the last 75 major championships have had, it's like 65 of them have had one of the big three in it. It's actually just the stat that just reminds you that Andy Murray won a Wimbledon championship. Yeah. Cause that's always, it's like, you see all the names, you're like, oh yeah, Andy Murray. That was cool. And it's like that, uh, what was it?

AFC quarterback, Super Bowl stat. It was like every Super Bowl had Brady, Peyton or someone else. And there was one Flacco. Yeah. That was the only one. It's like a teammate of Shax was in the finals for every year for like 40 years in a row. All right. Well, that's talk and tennis.

I mean, it was, it was the major sport event, uh, today. I mean, something about Wimbledon, you just get romantic about it. I do love the ball boys. The ball boys are like on their shit at Wimbledon. They're like very specific movements that they're allowed to make after certain points. They have like, I don't know, they, they're, it looks like they're soldiers because they have to be standing like a certain posture. Their right, their right hand has to go at like a certain angle when they're delivering

the balls. It's, um, it's nice. Yeah. It's nice to see how, how the Brits clean up some time. And I did watch, uh, I think it was almost three full games. Sets. No, no games. I said it correctly.

I watched almost three full games. I'm pissed off that they took away the fifth set tiebreaker rule where they had the tiebreaker that could go on. Is there a majority? 20 times. I don't like that. I, isn't there Mahoot? Yeah.

And it lasted three days. They were the, they were the Syracuse Yukon of Wimbledon. See I like that. That's, that's cool to have an event that could like, in theory, extend into infinity. Now it's a super tiebreaker. Super tiebreaker. They tried to trick us. They tried to trick us by putting the word super in front of it.

They played a 10 instead of seven. So I'm going to, a super tiebreaker should be just the tiebreaker that goes on days. Yeah. And a goal of mine is just going to never learn what the super tiebreaker is. It's really not that much different. Nope. Don't tell it to me. I don't want to know.

All right. Don't listen. They played a 10 instead of seven. No. Stop. Are they still doing the thing where they do like the mixed doubles championship after? Well, yeah. The, the ladies doubles was after the gentlemen singles.

That's kind of nice. Yeah. I like that. They should play the NIT championship like right after the final four. I feel like that's got to be demoralizing. There's no way people stay for that. Oh, come on. It's Wimbledon.

Bro. They stay for the strawberries and the cream. I hope so. And the white linens. You got to. The day before they do the men's doubles with the women's singles, uh, a little switch room. Yeah.

I like that. Okay. So that was talking tennis. Oh, uh, um, real sports news, Baker Mayfield is now Carolina Panther, uh, the Carolina Panthers are, I might have to become a fan of them because they now have the first and third pick, uh, from that 2018 draft. I think they, they had the fourth pick in that draft or the Browns had the fourth pick. The Browns had the first and the fourth and they still screwed it up.

And the Panthers now are ending up with the first and the third with Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, which how can they, the super team and Corral, they're a super team. They're a dynasty in the maybe Cam Newton couple back. They have two first round picks a quarter for number one ones at quarterback. It's funny to watch how the, how the Panthers have operated since Tepper has become their owner. They're just in a constant state of panic. Yeah.

Like every off season, they're like, we got to make a big splash. Yeah. They tried to, I actually like Baker on the Panthers. Yeah. I do. Maybe, maybe I'm an idiot, but I think that Baker's still like he could be a top 12 quarterback. Yeah. I think that's about, that's about where he's at.

I mean, like Cleveland forgets how dog shit their franchise has been for such a long time. He came in. I wouldn't call him a bust. Like I saw people calling Baker Mayfield a bust. I don't think he's a bust at all. I think that he was hurt last year. Got the Browns. The playoffs.

They won a playoff game. They won a playoff game. They beat the, they beat the Steelers. Yes. Yes. And I think Baker had like an awesome game against the Steelers. They almost, no, they didn't almost beat the Chiefs. They were kind of, they almost beat the Chiefs and the regular season.

The earlier that's, no, that was the next season. Yeah. The next season. So yeah. Baker almost won multiple playoff games. Some of them not in the actual playoffs. Baker was great up until like week three where he injured his shoulder against the Texans, I think.

His body became broken. His body turned on himself. Yes. Baker, he's a guy that's a big chip on a shoulder guy. And then guess who they get to play? Week one. The Panthers play the Browns. Love it.

It's this league. I do like what the Panthers are doing, the strategy. They are a fantasy football commissioner or a team owner, like run a muck where it's like, I screwed up this draft. So I'm just going to try to get as many names that I can recognize on my roster. And one of them has to produce. You know what the Panthers are doing? And none of them ever end up producing.

They're doing the re-drafts. Yeah. The Panthers every year are like constantly in a state of re-drafting. Right. It's like, we don't know what we're going to do. So we're just going to throw as many options at the wall and someone has to work out. Little spoiler. No one's going to work out.

But someone has to work out. I do think that Baker wearing the Carolina Panthers jersey is going to be an all-time weird sight. Yeah. Like that, those color schemes don't really, they don't scream Baker may fist away. No, they definitely don't. And then the other quarterback news, Zach Wilson may or may not be a dog. I think Confirm got that dog in him.

Yeah. He is a dog. Who's got a dog in him. He puts a dog in other people. The cougar had that dog in him. Yeah. All right. So there's a rumor out there, not totally not substantiated other than, uh...

Started an Instagram conversation. Yeah. All right. So here's how, here's the quick backstory. Zach Wilson's best friend in college. Zach Wilson had a girlfriend in college. Zach Wilson's best friend who's now on the Washington Commander's wide receiver is now dating Zach Wilson's ex-girlfriend.

So, uh... His recent. That was the other one I recall. Yeah. His girlfriend. Yeah. His most recent. So Zach Wilson's best friend dating Zach Wilson's ex-girlfriend.

Uh, then... Homie Hopper. Someone got into Zach Wilson's ex-girlfriend's Instagram comments at Homie Hopper and she replied and was like, Homie Hopper, how about the fact that Zach Wilson is banging his mom's best friend? And I... Which is... If it's a lie, it's honestly hilarious either way.

And then... If it's the truth, to consenting adults, what's the problem? Go for it. Yeah. And then, Mackay Bekton, uh, from the Jets, he tweeted out, that's my quarterback. He's getting out. I think this actually will get Zach Wilson more respect in the locker room. My big takeaway from this is, it's kind of an eye-opening moment for me.

I think Mormons fuck. I think Mormons fuck a lot more... Not just soaked? Than were led on to believe. Yeah. Now, do you think they just soaked? Ooh. If they just soaked, I don't think he doesn't have that dog in him.

I need some friction. I need a few thrusts. Well, I don't think he's like a... He's not a full Mormon himself. Like, he's... He's not? He doesn't... He's not a practicing Mormon.

Well, clearly. But I think there's a lot of swinging that goes on in Utah. Well, there's definitely like, you know, multiple wives. Like, it's one of the... Yeah. It's like the craziest state probably in the country. Yeah. I think that the Mormons...

The entire country's on... The entire state is on some weird ass, like... They're always on the weird shit. Yeah. Yeah. I think that they've pulled the wool over our eyes. I think that everyone just, like, assumes Mormons don't fuck till they get married and then they just fuck all the time.

I think that Mormons are low-key fucking all the time. All the time. They've just been under the radar. But Zach Wilson, like, he's got that dog in him. That's a ballsy move. Your mom's best friend. If it was true, we don't know. But if it were true, that's a ballsy move.

And I kind of like that. Like, if you're a Jets fan, you got to be like, okay, we got ourselves a quarterback. I also think everybody out there is, like, looking at pictures of Zach Wilson's mom and doing the math like, well, she's pretty hot, so... Yeah. I would assume that her friend is hot, too. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Dog. Hot girls hang out together. That's a fact. No matter what age. Dog. Dog. Dog. It wasn't their...

There was also, like, a few months ago, he was spotted in Florida with some may call... Shout out Ben Mintz Amilfe, man, I love football. And so he might have a thing for the older ladies. Who cares? Sentting adults. Again, dog. Responsible. Yeah, responsible.

Might also just be married to all of them. Yeah. That's true. You don't know. That works. Yeah. So the Jets... I feel like, yeah, this is actually good news for the Jets.

They're in the news, and it's not a total disaster. Yeah. I mean, you go from having maybe the lamest sex scandal of all time, which is, like, Sam Darnall got mono from making out in a bar in Hobo, to like, okay, Zach Wilson confirmed Stickman. Yeah, confirmed dog. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

No, I agree. I'm nervous. I think. No. What? It's the Jets. Just saying. He was DMing Jack Mack, being like, please take this down.

Yeah, I understand. That is the softest shit I've ever heard. Okay. Sorry, Zach Wilson, but it's, I mean, it's Jack Mack. I think Zach Wilson probably freaked out in the moment, and then, like, 24 hours later. Because really, when it actually boils down... But how do you not know the internet? Like, once I was out there, it's out there.

He was DMing Jack Mack, who is a blogger that works here. He does TikToks. He's like a TikTok journalist. He's always... He's on every beat. He does the FaceCave videos. He breaks it down, and then if it's a big story, it goes viral. This was going viral, and Zach Wilson, he's a Jets fan, soft move by Jack Mack, too.

Jack Wilson was DMing him. I can understand Jack Mack. Please take this down. Please take this down. But, like, it's... It's... Once it's out there, it's out there. Right.

Once it goes viral, everyone's going to be talking about it. Okay. But I understand where Jack Mack was coming from, because if it's like, you're the first to it, and then you feel like you're responsible for it, and he's a Jets fan, Jack Mack needs to be applauded for his TikTok journalism. And Zach Wilson followed him, and then afterwards, unfollowed. Yeah. So Zach Wilson probably freaked out in the moment.

Even after he took it down. I bet you he wakes up tomorrow, and he's like, what's the big deal? Because it actually is like... Yeah, he's probably getting text from his teammates. Yeah. Yeah, right. Like, in terms of actual scandals, this is not a scandal. It is two consenting adults.

Again, maybe it's a little awkward for your mom now, but that's, you know, deal with that. But maybe she's probably on some crazy shit, too. Yeah, she's probably like, yo, she is hot. I know her. Yeah. Because all women have seen each other's breasts. I think the biggest scandal is, that's a fact. That's a fact.

That's a fact. That's how they say hello to each other. That's a fact. The biggest scandal here is like the former best friend. That's where it gets weird. That is, that's probably what he was embarrassed about. Right. He was like, this guy is now dating my, I don't want that to get out there.

Yeah. But as far as like, oh, I'm begging, I'm begging a hot mom. Yeah. Yeah. Dog. Yeah. One more day. Get the damn broken hand from getting high fives.

Yeah. That's the number one porn category. Yeah allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. But that's like, come on, would Zach Wilson. Good job, bro.

All right. My Perf Family. That is a headline. Yeah. Mom's best friend, Bang's star quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. My Perf.

Damn Brex. Ryan, probably, probably really wishing he was coaching him right now. Lisa Ann is definitely going to make this into a porno, which would be great. Who's going to play Zach will. So that's the thing. football brand brandy love could like Billy's also big time tomorrow Billy's all I actually didn't mind so my bad not no I brought it up okay okay so since you brought it up I I vote to unsuspend Billy football from the podcast no I

should have brought it up if he makes a porn dress up like Zach Wilson and he's banging brandy love yes his suspension is up next week but he can get time served that's his appeal if he does that yes yes absolutely at least makes a deep fake of himself doing that would work too or he or he could just do a selfie video of him jerking off to brandy love yeah yeah POV you're Zach Wilson's mom's best friend it's just just Billy sweating okay other stories other Kevin Durant still doesn't have a new team I actually think the Nets should just keep them well I think the Nets ideally would like to give them they're just doing the

thing where they they hope if they just wait for a while that Kevin Durant will change his mind yeah like maybe maybe something cool happen in New York and Kevin Durant will be like yeah I want to stick around yeah that's pretty much that's the strategy and at some point there will be a team that does play hard I mean the Sixers tried to do it last year yeah but I feel like the pendulum has swung so much in the direction of player empowerment that we're gonna get one owner that's just gonna be like you know what fuck it fuck it I'm not changing anything yeah and Joe Si should do that and then I'm trying

to think what other stories baseball still happening yeah the angels suck so bad I actually should read the one of the funniest tweets ever that just keeps getting retweeted constantly on my timeline because angels I think have the worst record since May 25th they're winning like 20% of their games and this guy named Matt Tomic wrote this was actually back in early May before they like fell off said every time I see an angels highlight it's like Mike Trout hit three home runs and raises average to 528 while Shohei Otani did something that hasn't been done since since Tugston arm O'Doill of the 1921 Akron

Groomsman as the Tigers defeated the angels eight to three mm-hmm that's every single game for the angels yeah it's just cool highlights and they lose every game that's been the story the angels for I feel like the last ever since Mike Sosha hasn't been their manager so perfect Aaron Rodgers got a tattoo he did I I'm putting a very tough situation I was tagged a lot in it we were on vacation so I was also trying to stay off my phone a little bit it's the one spot where I've professed that I would like to someday be a older gentleman getting a tattoo the first tattoo so I'm not gonna shame him even

though it I looked at it and I think I I think I could be arrested by the CIA just by looking I'm trying to decipher it right now the best explanation it looks like if an incubus song became a tattoo it's got a globe on it it's got one angry lion one smiling lion the eye of what is it what's that eye that's on the dollar bill yeah he's in the Illuminati yeah well I was gonna say the reason why I wasn't shocked by it is because I've lived in Brooklyn for six years so I've seen that tattoo every day when I went to go with a coffee that's pretty much what he did he's got it's a tattoo that was designed to impress Joe

Rogan very clearly yes some sort of it's a it's a tattoo that he wants you to be like what is that about and then you have to strap in for three hours mm-hmm cuz he's gonna tell you everything yeah open your mind open your heart tattoo but again I I do I like eventually I would like to have a tattoo and when that day comes I know that I'll be opening myself up to criticism this is like a tattoo of the inside of Kyrie Irving's brain yes or what Kyrie Irving thinks his brain is yeah it's not actually Kyrie Irving's brain if Kyrie Irving built his own brain in Minecraft yeah that's what this would look like

when Kyrie Irving looks into the mirror he thinks that like if he looks hard enough into his eyes that's what's happening inside of his eyes I need to know though is this on his left arm or his right arm I guess his left coward that's that's a coward move right there yeah if he was a baller if he had that dog in him he would put that on his throwing hand yeah he would he would and then the other sports story is Ferrari's back it was big day for me for sports I don't care about where I can just you know congratulate myself on I just saw there was a fire that's cool it was very fire it was it was also he

was it was Carlos Sainz so the other Ferrari guy and if he was the this is fine dog for a few minutes three seconds there because there his car was completely on fire and he just wasn't getting out it's not ideal I'm still in this race I like that I like I like the possibility that like maybe I can maybe it'll go away maybe if I drive fast enough the wind will put the flames out yeah but any sport that has a fire in it I'm gonna be interested in looking at the picture that fire I found myself in a perfect spot I feel like we've we've discussed this I think a month ago when we're like hey look we're not really

actually watching these races I like drive to survive I just I found my niche it's to watch drives to survive to know enough that I can just be annoying to people who watch the sport and and love it and truly care about it yeah that's a great yeah you don't have to you don't have to actually ever put anything on the line for it right you're just like okay I'm just here to piss all you guys right and everyone whenever I have a strong opinion about F1 everyone's like did you even watch the race and the answer is no no I didn't I don't watch the race I will tune in if there's a fire that's how you get me yeah I did watch a

little of the race because the only reason I watched a little of the race today is because I was so bored by the tennis so they were going so I had to flip to F1 I would put me in a box I would watch F1 if they were in planes how cool would that be that'd be very cool drone racing be even faster yeah drone racing and you could shoot each other down and Tom Cruise was in it and Miles Teller was in his backseat and I would watch them yeah Miles Teller had sick abs and a great mustache mm-hmm that's how you get me to watch F1 I'm in for that and Kenny Loggins hey all right let's do who's back and then we

have Andy Staples we're gonna do Andy Staples realignment and the Mount Rush more of college football traditions who's back the week brought to you by our friends at Coors Light summer is full of official events like weddings graduations annual 4th of July barbecues but everyone knows the best parts of summer are the unofficial ones this summer Coors Light is the official beer of everything unofficial celebrating those moments that truly makes summer chill what is your favorite unofficial moment Hank just just walking walking to the beach to the beach cracking open up Coors Light on the beach yep the

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to work go on the internet it's like what's going on boom waffle house fight video you know this is what I needed yes this is what I needed to start my week I saw a video waffle house video a couple weeks ago where it was like the like the chef had to go to the hospital and the and the waitress just let everyone who's in the waffle house just make their own yeah it was awesome you can start cooking yeah that's actually not a bad idea for a restaurant like a late-night restaurant yeah is well first of all you can very dangerous you can fight in there yeah but also like make your own food yeah it like like

like Korean barbecue but it's just a waffle griddle there's no line there's no line it's just who can get yeah they just come with yeah yeah no no only one guy who can get up to the front only one person gets to use the stove at a time and right but you can challenge that person by fighting them yeah to get to the story how about a bring your own batter restaurant I thought you were gonna say bat like to get into fight with yeah both yeah it's it's like sluggers in Wrigleyville it's you bring batter for your waffles and also a bat to you know hit in the cages yeah you can put whatever liquid you want on this

hot metal stove as long as you can hit 80 miles an hour yeah and people no but you said I was like there's a what no I just like the idea of a king of the hill type restaurant where you have to defeat challengers to make your food yes real primal shit genius idea all right and my other my other who's back is summer this league okay summer league that was kind of the only other thing that was really going on the sports world but just like the the things that come out of the conversations like it's like LeBron talking to to Rob Polinka and then it's just like everyone goes off on these rumors woj was

talking to Rich Paul and there was just like it's just one of those things were it's just people at summer league everyone goes to summer league all the players go all the executives go all the coaches go they have conversations mm-hmm and then people onto it like people just go crazy being like this GM's talking this GM a tree it's happening and like people just go nuts over over nothing I actually do think that this year is the earliest that we've ever started to legitimately have the redrafting talk yeah after the draft yeah so like right now that all the talk is like chat to barry polo back here like

would I'm a big at home good fan by the way he's awesome I like him and I'm under Kevin Durant to go to thunder yes yeah no that's the one the only two places Kevin Durant can go to restore his legacy is the thunder or if he waits out for the sonics and they're friends again yeah yeah and it would be an unbelievable story it would everyone would root for Kevin Durant if you went to the thoughts and they have the picks to give up that's the craziest part I think I'm a match made in heaven they probably wear the same size shirts too yeah it's I mean chat is just it's so much fun watching him just be Katie like

how is this guy real it's puzzling yeah but it's very satisfying yeah he's like his body was truly built to play basketball the other part about chat the hole for not know for nothing else like there's we could use a few more pounds well obviously yeah like there's no other there's no other actual practical application maybe apple picking maybe like old school just like see the freak at the zoo yeah yeah no if he was born in like 1870 yeah he would be there would be a guy in a top hat that would wheel him around in a cage yeah or he would be Rasputin yeah yeah um no he but speaking of all yeah yeah a huge cock

huge very tall Cooper flag we won the under 17 USA gold medal remember a guy Cooper flag yeah main guy yeah guy from Maine who's gonna be the number one pick what are you talking about there are two guys there are two guys that I'm not ready for that yeah I'm trying to I'm trying to finally a podcast for white there's Cooper flag and then there's that other guy named dick yeah and those are the two guys brady dick sure Cooper flag is the number one prospect for like the 2025 class and he's Russian no he's American the opposite would be we remember the draft night we're talking about Rasputin last white American to be one

one was 1977 Cooper flag got it now that we care but Cooper flag one and under 17 I just got tagged a shitload in it future a Cooper flag baby goat yeah wait what were we talking about chat yeah chat Chet sick and you know what's crazy about Chet he's cocky as fuck like I a guy that looks like that shouldn't be cocky he he had the block read the record for a number of blocks in a summer league game which who keeps summer league records what the fuck and so they asked him after and they're like do you know that you had the record he's like I'm gonna do it again tomorrow night I love that like what let's go to the

cockiest Chet ever yeah Jesus he's gonna get dunked on once so viciously this year it will it will take you it will take five percent of the cockiness out of them I'm just gonna say that right now you know someone's gonna just yeah gotta pay your dues probably get a nosebleed from it yeah yeah it's gonna be all over everything okay you're who's back Hank are you done yep okay I know you said you had a few of them so you just said to there might be another one doubt Jake could you look up the definition of a few please because I think that would qualify I think it's three I think it's a few is three but small number of yeah

we're a couple I was just just trying to make sure that you had all the time couples to couples to couples to pursue a small number if you know I think I can read it again all number of got it yeah and two is what are we using there's an urban dictionary to a big number no choose a couple it's a small number which would then classify it if I said you I'm we're bringing a few people over would you think it was just me and PFT yeah it could be no chance if DK Metcalf was on and he's like hey can you bring a few of your friends yeah no chance and she rolls up with two you see yeah if someone says they're bringing a few people over

you don't think it's gonna be just two people if two people showed up I'd be like that's a few no no you know you're right that is a few you've created a new super group two to four the big three is a few single couple few could also be two no yes incorrect okay I mean going against Webster over here football is back what Jake what website was that on oh it's very much sir going on Webster okay so my who's back the week is embracing debate and expanding on a debate that we all love to have I think it's maybe the most popular debate of all time can you jump from the free throw line it's uh no it's Steph all right what excuse me the original debate

is obviously MJ vs LeBron yeah right it got expanded last week and then it went viral and then all the morning shows started to debate the new evolution of the debate so I figured we should at least touch on it it's no longer just MJ vs LeBron who do you have it's magic and MJ vs LeBron and Steph oh who wins two on two I like that I like it too magic and magic and and MJ win I don't know because they didn't they didn't defend the perimeter back I feel like Steph Curry changed the game magic was a problem he was an issue well no MJ was I mean what era of medicine are we playing that's a that's a big question as well you got a problem in him vs LeBron and Steph mm-hmm so you do the magic and shoot you don't need to shoot yeah he's

big great pass wrong can shoot what did Henry Locke would just say that better yeah better than I mean it's different it's different eras it's different eras are you okay we can't concede I mean Steph is the greatest sure of all time involved it's like Steph would carry them yeah I actually think that he's a game game LeBron doesn't touch like look what he did to KD it also wait he gave him two championships it matters it matters are we playing by ones and twos because if we're playing by ones that wouldn't matter then I think Steph Curry he doesn't let LeBron touch the ball except rebound yeah and then Steph if he hits 40% of his threes two is 50 two is 100% more than one I think mathematically they would dominate that game well I think LeBron would also just be trying to

get like magic and MJ to like him so that would totally neutralize him right yeah probably yeah try to get it try to get you know us old heads out here I did see a video not to just hop on LeBron hate train but since we're doing it um on the anniversary casually folks yeah it's like I was on vacation I wasn't gonna bring enough but I was consuming you know I was doing my thing on vacations anyway I love where people generally get up so like they can't just go one episode without talking about LeBron like yeah that's kind of the premise of the show yeah no Hank how the dumbest debates how would Steph outscoring LeBron in a hypothetical two-on-two game against MJ and magic but still winning how would that affect LeBron's legacy question that would be great for

takes because that would happen that would definitely be I think it'd be work I think it'd be worse for LeBron if his team won and Steph scored all the points then if his team lost and he scored equal amounts of points to Steph agreed yeah agreed yeah and so Steph leading score they win by three points but Jordan gets the MVP right right it was the anniversary of the decision and it came out yeah it came out like it was like the I'm taking my talents to South Beach wasn't even LeBron's quote he watched Kobe Bryant's uh high school announcement to the NBA draft and he says I'm taking my talents to the NBA so it wasn't even it wasn't even an original it wasn't even an original quote because it was like Kobe's high school like it wasn't a big wow news conference

or anything or like it wasn't viral or whatever but you could someone said LeBron looked it up the night before that's hilarious and then went out there but also like Kobe wasn't picking schools like if he was picking schools it'd be more controversial he just said I'm taking my talents at the NBA I also like he wasn't it wasn't uh it wasn't like if you did that between I guess well he's picking not to go to school yeah right I rewatched it too because it was he had the 12 12 year anniversary and it's very funny rewatching because LeBron wanted to say it right away but he had to pretend that it was a tough decision he's like oh man really tough decision didn't like no it isn't yeah we don't actually like who wouldn't want to go live in Miami with all the boys and

girls club we don't we don't talk about that they cut to like three commercial breaks before it happened it was like the gray LeBron did a good thing in terms of raising money for the boys and girls club in that tv show but we don't talk about yeah and a bad thing by destroying their hearts and soul he brought he brought these like eight year olds out yes thought he was god that like looked up to him the hometown hero and made them sit next to him while he just he fucking pile drive their hearts over his knee and he's like okay bye I'm gonna go to Miami and drink on a beach yeah enjoy winter five years yeah have fun in Cleveland yeah if you could if you ever make it if you ever find your way down to south beach don't call me yeah that's pretty much what he was

doing all right see you later kids all right my who's back I have two a couple a few my first is Brett Farve Brett Farve is back oh good because Brett Farve said in a quote if someone offered me a job to do Monday night or Thursday night football and it was a great deal I would consider it same yeah great Brett good job Brett that was that quote made me laugh very hard because Brett he's putting his name in the ring oh Brett he might listen I don't have to be a really good offer though he did say that he would consider it he wouldn't just take it I I think Brett was way more entertaining when he was playing than like when he's trying to take like a an objective view at things yeah he's kind of boring now yeah yeah he's uh I just you know him just being like

openly being like I would consider it I I don't think that offers coming it would be great if if like they got him to do college football first though that would be fun they'd like send him all around the country yeah like Brett Farve calling a Notre Dame game would be awesome would be great yes I'd agree and then my other who's back is is my age because I uh I played wiffle ball back to back days this weekend and I've never been more sore my entire life back hurts everything shoulder back ankles Achilles it's like you could you know PFT like you could still you could still put it on for a weekend drinking wise but having to actually do like wiffle ball which should be fun but it just like I can't bounce back yeah I played golf a little bit and the next day I realized like how

bad my feet hurt yeah and I didn't even walk the course yeah I I rode in a cart for nine holes and I was like yeah getting old it's tough would you shoot uh 63 whoa that makes Jake's little breaking 90 look like piddly wings played played every hole too yeah didn't skip any what'd you shoot Hank which time I played a bunch yeah you're posting your best swings on on instagram saying roast my swing and it happened to be Hank's like perfect swing I didn't say roast my swing that was me oh you said roasted max holma no no but what did you did you not post it I posted good videos bad videos say on the good video nothing slow mo I said this is slow mo this is my this I posted a roast my swing you're gonna love that but it was I hit this well I posted a video today I said

guess my handicap oh yeah yeah on your best swing that's that's a no it was a compilation of all my swings and there was several bad ones yeah I know that was I was kind of I mean a couple people responded I thought it was I was I was ready for I mean that's close to fucking a man yeah no yeah it is yeah if you have a sick mind like yourself yeah shut up Hank shut the fuck up so what was your best score 47 oh that's pretty good nine holes and I showed up 100 so not 89 okay I've decided 11 away I took my handicap from a 28 to 24 so is it we'll do that that quickly yeah I don't think we have enough rounds registered to like speak to yourself you guys are registering rounds yeah really 18 birdies follow free ads okay Jake never mind hmm barstle golf time that barstle

golf time at 18 birdies is fine but okay barstle golf time up is better barstle golf time up the best I uh I almost had a par that would have been so cool dude that walk off I'd walk off the course it was on the ninth hole too yeah I mean I I hit my first shot illustrious you know the last hole of every hole of course the night hole I put yeah the iconic like everyone's like oh yeah the night hole because who in their fucking right mind would play 18 holes of golf yeah so I hit my first shot absolutely nuked it went into the right fairway I like the fairway next to the one I was in and I was like fuck that it's the ninth hole I'm about done I'm just gonna drop my next shot where this shot would have landed if it went straight yeah I was like 125 yards away took out a nice

little pitching wedge dropped it to about I don't know I'd say 12 feet and then hit my put about four feet so but that was almost a par oh that was almost a par as you can get not to not to roast Hank because Hank is much better than me at golf um but golf every day yeah when I'm when I post the swings online I'm like roast my swing because I always had a really shitty shot uh the most common response by far is swing still better than hanks so I just well I get so better than rig so it's just a chain of golf haters out there yeah then they are and they're all golf haters I get how can one man have that all that power yeah he's got time to book multiple tea times it's great good job great great great recovery there I'm serious I'm serious I'll show you the receipts

the uh the handicaps isn't though obviously like it is good because someone as bad as me can play my friends that are good and it's like you can play even matches with strokes and it stays competitive right that is nice so it is you gotta you know you gotta be honest and keep your scores otherwise you're saying that and you still have your youth at least so that's great I oh no are you are you feeling it too I was just yeah I mean I'm old I was driving home 29 some reason 29 is different than 28 and it's like so true year yeah I wouldn't even get into it but yeah I'm feeling oh no I'm just feeling old it's like listen I also think there's we gotta give ourselves a little bit of credit summer drinking is a different beast because you gotta deal with the sun and and in

in situ it's always like July 3rd and 4th 5th like big big celebration and and I was having a great time celebrating hard wait you guys celebrate 4th of July weekend in situate well 3rd they do the 3rd whatever reason it's like they they 3rd is the 3rd it's crazy 3rd is the 4th but then the 4th is also the 4th wait what's the 5th 5th is just the 4th the 5th is a bonus 4th wait so you have two 4ths and a 5th yes well two 4ths you get two 4ths anyway whatever I was talking to my friend on like the 5th or 6th and I was like man I was we're not high on this episode I was like that was one of the craziest like you know 4th weekends of the last like since we've been doing the last 10 years he's like you mean 15 and I was that that that hit me like a ton of bricks

like that's been in my head ever since I was like it's like the anchor man like you've been coming to the same party yeah like more than half your life yeah fuck yeah I should probably grow up big cat's right that the sun sun kills does add an X factor I um I had a first I woke up on Saturday morning and uh my FaceTime on my phone not my FaceTime my FaceID didn't recognize me because I was so hungover because I was pointing at my face and my phone was just like who is this yeah it's not you clean up go put your face in some ice water yeah and then come back and try again but great times amazing times yeah it's just 29 it's just it's just 29 man yeah all right Jake finish us off my who's back is Matthew Della Vadova yeah deli sleep very restful week Jake

actually does look amazing yeah you always you're glowing right now Jake you probably use like that like good sunscreen yeah yeah you put cucumbers over your eyes no I've never done it oh I gotta I did I study the picture of my my summer in tan no I have a farmer stand it's a great uh like just super drunk slap some sunscreen on your shoulders and that's it yeah because when you go out in the sun as a man sometimes you just kind of want to let it ride and if you've been out in the sun for like four hours four hours drinking you're not gonna like find a friend to put sunscreen on your back no no I saw someone do it I was like give me some of that I'm also going to just say right now I judge you if you're SPF 35 or plus 30 or below what's the

point yeah anyone puts on 50 I'm just immediately like dude just go inside 50 is a t-shirt go inside there's no reason to be outside or convert to being a sunshade if you really can't handle this just you're not that guy pal that's what I said anyone who puts on 50 uh okay hey this is a very funny picture of you especially your arm like where you put where you managed put the sunscreen yeah you just got a little bit on that neck all right so Matthew Delvedo yeah he's getting a summer workout Sacramento Kings let's go down and make it back go love it go he should be back the NBA is a better league when Matthew Delvedo doves in it like hitting people in the nuts taking charges bleeding from like one nostril because he's playing so dang hard agreed I missed

that guy yeah I'm happy he's back so he's wait what did you say you gotta work out the Kings oh okay so he's not back I mean he should be able to make the Kings right we'd hope it's the Kings their coach is Mike Brown who is history with some yeah so he's got that they're breaking them in that's yeah that's gonna get a workout you know what it is no deli's getting in and he's going to change the culture yeah you get you get your name in the middle of my state exactly who's back yeah and then everyone's like oh he's back the second week of July like that yeah that probably is like a discussion that a marketing department would have for the Kings is like how do we increase our brand awareness right let's bring deli in so that they'll talk they'll say the name the Kings

on part of my take and boom next thing you know our brand's worth like a hundred thousand dollars yes yes I have a quick I know I've been all over the place a little bit but Jake what the Sunday night baseball Yankees Red Sox games on Red Sox took a huge lead but why was Chapman pitching in the sixth well he was injured so I would assume I'm not positive I would assume they're just trying to ease him out back not in high-level situations like why are you in like why would you put him in the sixth inning and who's back in the week is the is Yankees Red Sox Sunday night baseball taking six hours yeah because we're in the seventh 10 12 p.m. yeah three hours plus in yeah don't change you know he's bad oh Veratex back to yeah that was cool that was a sick

video of him what is he back with he just went out and caught I think a warm-up it was like a warm-up he's a coach yeah yeah yeah so he's in full uni so it's like yeah yeah that also made me feel old as fuck because he does not you know he he's looking at the same party he's eating well yeah he's a healthy guy yeah game planning coordinator that's pretty sick that sounds like an awesome job yeah is that like you work with the catcher before the game and steak after I'm sure you just work with a catcher on yeah obviously it's pretty cool it's like you hire young buyers I just be like all right guys like yeah what do you guys want to drink after the game I think it's also making sure like there's enough gum and sunflower seeds yeah like you got the right flavor make sure no one

puts on SPF 50 yeah you don't want that that's basically the culture yeah that's like that's like an offensive lineman wearing sleeves in the winter fact can't do it yeah we're tougher than the sun the fucking sun all right let's do uh anti staples and then we have our Mount Rushmore with anti staples before that we got a quick word from our sponsor yeah we got brand new sponsor new sponsor Lord Hank hell yeah it's what not this is a great sponsor it's what not if you haven't heard of what not it is a live stream auction app where you can buy collectibles comics and really almost anything else they bring businesses and people together through commerce where sellers can host live streams and engage kind of stores like yourselves can bid in real time

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college football and we're going to do a mount rushmore mount rushmore of college football traditions so let's start with the chaos that has gone down the last week and half it feels like the dust has settled tell me tell me if i'm right let's start here it feels like we're now at a point where half of the pack 12 is begging the big 10 to get in half of the pack 12 is is going to form like a pseudo alliance with the big 12 the acc is uh very nervous but they have a tv contract that's binding them all together and the sec and big 10 are just sitting back being like we kind of run this shit now you forgot Notre Dame Notre Dame Notre Dame has a standing invitation to do whatever the hell Notre Dame everywhere yeah so so you got that yes that's exactly what's going on

right now i don't know how much the dust has settled i was talking to somebody the other day who who typically knows things and they pointed out you don't know how many important people are on vacation right now like that's you understand how many of these people are in europe right now i'm like oh so so what you're telling me is this this calming is not that everything's just actually calming down is they haven't flown home yet right right so once they get home we might have another flurry of chess pieces being moved across the board and uh geography not mattering anymore to know so no the big the big 12 that's the one i keep watching because something has to happen with the pack 12 and the big 12 one way or the other somebody's got to raid somebody i would think

unless the pack 12 can just figure out a way to stay with the 10 they've got but i can't imagine like if you're organ or washington why you would do anything that would cause you to to make a long-term agreement with anybody right and so like the big 12 let's say let's say the big 12 try because i what i think the big 12 should do is go to organ washington to be like listen i know you guys want to be the pack 10 we get it so here's what we're going to do you're going to come with us and we're going to put a clause in your deal that just says you want out fine you're out if the big ten is you know the coaches have those contracts where if they're alma mater calls they can get out without paying a buyout the lane kiffin yeah his

dream job yeah same thing dream job buyout or dream job clause so do that and you get them and then you'll get utah in colorado and you'll get whoever else you want from that league and you i mean that that league would really stretch i mean we go from west virginia down to orlando over to origan down to arizona i mean it would be crazy so geography means absolutely zero right now yeah yeah so what do you think is the next shoe to drop if you were to place a bet what school do you think is going to announce a shift in conference who's gonna be the next one up it's either somebody going to the big 12 from the pack 12 or somebody going to the pack 12 from the big 12 and i just i keep coming back to the big 12 presidents athletic directors all those people

they have been through every possible scenario and realignment like they've been about to implode the big 12 has been clinically dead at a couple different points along the way and then they've had their schools stolen and then they've added schools so like they've been through everything the pack 12 people up until about a week and a half ago were like well this will never happen to us so i gotta trust the people with some reps to get some stuff done like so big 12 has their media days this week like they have a new commissioner named Brett Yormar who was at rock nation jz's company he was the CEO of the Brooklyn Nets for a while like he hasn't done anything public yet i could imagine during his big speech at big 12 media days they just start

playing some music and and kyle wittingham runs in and like we got Utah yeah i love it too because the big 12 has like you said has been dead at some points but now they're i think they're firmly in number three most stable spot because it's a bunch of schools that have basically been called dead that have been told that they're not wanted by anyone else and that has bound them all together where they're like you know we have the loyalty of being the team that the schools that everyone's like now we don't want you in the sec we don't want you the big 10 we don't want you like here there or other where they they basically are as unified as they could be outside of obviously the big 10 and sec and with the exception of Kansas and football they're all pretty good yeah like

even the ones they're adding ucf houston Cincinnati byu like they're pretty good at football so you can imagine them saying look hey we're pretty strong through the middle here you're not going to lose any of us and we're not going to bail on you so i mean that that's my pitch if i'm talking to Utah and to Colorado and Oregon and Washington because i do think those schools in the pack 12 like if you were if you're Utah you're going to be side eyeing Oregon the entire time from now until something happens with the big 10 and i don't know what happens with the big 10 until Notre Dame makes a decision right it feels like that's what that's what the next shoe to drop with them would be is they want to see if Notre Dame wants to join Notre Dame wants to see hey are we going to be

denied access to the postseason which if i'm the sec and the big 10 both of which would take Notre Dame i think the big 10 would get them but there's no reason to give any special carve out to Notre Dame now right so if Notre Dame loses you know has their vote diluted for the playoff they're going to join a conference like and i've been the i've been the one saying all along they don't need to join a conference at all the second this happened the other day with the big 10 adding usc and ucla i was like okay i now this is it this is when Notre Dame has joined a conference well i think you're right like if they if it becomes a factor in the college football playoff that's what's going to push them over the edge because they they're not going to sit and just

you know and throw away their chances at meaningful postseason games that will force them to like pick a sign this but i i feel like Notre Dame there's no like clock taking on Notre Dame right like no at any point they could just decide okay yeah we'll join the big 10 and the big 10 would open you know open their arms and be like yes please thank you Notre Dame yeah it's kind of like i think it was david lee roth once said like sammy haygarth rose a party i am the party like Notre Dame can just go do what it wants because they're going to bring a huge audience i did a tv rating story the other day and like 67 of 68 rated games got over a million viewers they had 15 games that had over five million viewers in a six-year period like they can

write their ticket anywhere because nobody brings an audience like them because people who love them watch them people who hate them watch them like anytime i mentioned Notre Dame on twitter or in a story i get somebody going who cares what we do because when i mentioned nc state you don't say anything to me right right and i so my i've always thought obviously Notre Dame can do whatever they want this shift not only because of the playoff which is an interesting dynamic too because the acc kind of screwed over Notre Dame when they didn't want to expand the playoff remember when Notre Dame was like we'll we'll happily give up a buy any chance of a buy as long as we have this path the big thing for Notre Dame has always been they want to play everywhere they want to

play across america because that's where they they can't recruit in like they can't be Notre Dame by recruiting just in their backyard so the uc la usc thing now you can play maryland you know new jersey all the way out in california it opens it up a little bit where it's not just if you join the big 10 you're only playing in your backyard that's why it like kind of shifts the dynamic where they could still add you know a game in texas they could play navy down in texas they could do everything we're gonna play tcu or somebody like right exactly they love they they want to play everywhere because they have to recruit from everywhere and now they can play in la being in the big 10 right and i mean they were playing in la every other year anyway

they can play in la every year now right that that could be a can yeah i they probably aren't going to be it's interesting because as powerful as they are they can't go into either the big 10 or the sec and dictate terms like that but i do think if the big 10 wanted to lure them i think they'd probably say well you know in even years you can play usc on the road and on odd years you can play uc la on the road right and that would satisfy them like that's why they're playing stanford every year now it's not because they have this storied rivalry with stanford though that has become a good rivalry they would be getting some rivalries back if they join the big 10 michigan state michigan perdu teams that they've played a ton of times over the years so

it's it makes a little too much sense and so i just you know at this point i'm assuming it's going to happen i just have no clue when so what's the implication going to be for like the second tier conferences out there are they going to start gobbling like is kansas going to stick around in the big 12 for football forever is that something where like a second tier conference could be like okay we're going to take your dog shit teams that you don't really want anyways or what's going to happen you know like with with those uh those other conferences that aren't part of the uh realignment discussion well i think kansas hangs as long as they can in the big 12 big 12 could be like like big cats and big 12 could be the number three conference the acc

is kind of sitting in there right now because they've got clemson and because they've got some some good brands in florida state and miami and northeerline and virginia tech virginia but we don't know what's going to happen with the acc because they've got they are locked in to a bad tv deal for the next 14 years and they have what's called a grant of rights and what that is is they've they've the schools have agreed to give their media rights to the conference so any game emanating from their campus the rights to televise that game belong to the conference until 2036 and so these these schools have lawyers you know clemson miami florida state north carolina there are people looking into how do we break this thing right and so far nobody knows

how but the longer this goes and the the more desperate they get because right now they are staring down the barrel at 14 years of schools in the scc and the big 10 making at least double what they make and maybe more because they're going to get more bites at the apple they're going to have new new new tv deals before this other thing ends so if you're clemson you are freaking out right now so you got that that issue at play you've got the big 12 and the pack 12 and if you're the pack 12 what you're trying to do is just keep everybody together and maybe you try to add a couple schools i would if i'm then i try to take something from the big 12 and if i were those big 12 schools i would try to to resist and then try to get my league to take something from them so

it's it's a real you know it's kind of like in the movies when everybody's got a gun pointing at each other can they can they trade schools is that something that would be awesome yeah yeah listen we feel like we feel like tansas is more of a pack 12 school so yeah we're sliding them over and we'll take utah how's that yeah the arizona schools work in the big 12 so i i did a bad job of starting this whole thing and you brought up the tv rights that's really what this is all about right like this is all started and the the shake up is because live live sports are the last thing that you know tv networks can can hang their hat on and say this is ours and there's nothing nothing like it you can't you can have a million shows but live sports especially football will

always be king and the pack 12 did a terrible job larry scott we've talked about on the show completely screwed them over the acc's stuck in a terrible situation with their their programming sec's jump into espn and the big or the big 10 making this move is essentially just tearing down the pack 12 and saying we're gonna own the entire saturday on fox and so is it is that is it simplistic to say this is all driven by just tv and it's tv execs basically saying like we want to pay this amount of money and if you add these schools or these schools texan oklahoma or usc and usla it goes from 500 million to a billion or whatever that's exactly what it is so the big 10 is negotiating a new tv deal right now that starts next july and we'll see what they end up doing but fox is

going to get the biggest chunk of it fox is also their partner in the big 10 network fox is advising them on where to sell the other packages so what what they're going to sell to espn or if they're going to sell something to cbs or nbc or apple we don't know yet but we know it gets a lot more valuable with these other entities now my guess is they keep me going they would probably like to have that next lineup set before they agree on this thing but i don't think they have to you can just go into negotiations and say well here's what we have now let's figure out a number for that and let's say later we add Notre Dame and another school what what number is that right and you can you can have a contingency plan for if you do that and so i think they don't have to have their

membership completely set before they agree on this deal which should be probably the next couple months but it is all tv this all started the wheels of this started in 1984 when the supreme court ruled that the nc double a couldn't control football tv anymore and the conferences all started selling it on their own so that that's what it is and like the big 10 in the sec have sucked up so much oxygen it is that they have their own gravity right now and that that's it i when the sec took texas and oklahoma last year i started calling it the power two instead of the power five and that's that's really what it's going to be they're going to be the ones that matter you can have a playoff with just their schools yeah and and the rest of the public doesn't really

care like people would i would i would want clemson to have access to the playoff in oklahoma state and west virginia and and or again in washington but most of the even public doesn't care right it's funny that you put it that way with the supreme court it's like the domino meme where it's like supreme court decision 1984 and then the last one is arch mannings playing in austin that's in the sec yeah in the sec yeah which is probably a big reason why i decided to go to texas and yeah yeah definitely and it all sucks i i've said it sucks i wish that it stayed more regional i think that the rivalries the geography the differences in each league was always what made college football great but i've also taken a perspective of it felt inevitable and it felt

like as soon as texas and oklahoma did that you knew the big 10 was going to counter and i also know i'm speaking from a spot of some privilege in that wisconsin's safe in the big 10 because i've had people be like what if you were a fan of a pittsburgh or you know an oklahoma state i always throw out oklahoma state i don't know why i'd be mad i'd be really good yeah getting screwed right i'd be mad i'd be freaking out i'd be pissed off so i acknowledge that part let me ask you this this is this is what i've been thinking about so we we talked about kansas what are the chances like a kansas a duke maybe even stanford at some point in the next decade are like it's just it doesn't make sense for us to play football it's gonna be interesting to see

that because i i don't think they're losing money on football right now right but i think it kicked out of leagues yeah if they get kicked out of leagues like if they the acc breaks up and duke is just sitting there like if north carolina goes to big 10 and duke's sitting there like what the hell or if every everyone in the pack 12 blows up and stanford's sitting there and like we could play you know gonzaga and west coast conference like or like kansas being like all right what if we just joined the big 10 for basketball and said we're not gonna out of like could you see that happening we're a couple of these programs that have you know good athletic departments being like football as much as we want to play it it just doesn't make a lot of sense anymore

is if it stops making the money and then here's the thing it's still making a lot of these schools money even though you might think it's not like kansas football brings in more than kansas basketball right because you could split the money yeah the tv money what the big 12s contract is worth and what percentage of that is basketball what percentage as football so yeah if they if they were kicked out of leagues yes and here's the other thing that i think is going to happen which might accelerate what you were just talking about i think the governance is going to change instead of there being one organization that handles all sports there will be an organization that handles football right and the nc double a might handle all the other sports or the nc double a might handle

certain sports and then other sports kind of have their own governance too because guys you know like college rodeo has its own governing body college water skiing we didn't know has its own governing body college rodeo i think i found a new sport to get into yes no we did not they just put college kids out there on like giant bowls and shit oh yeah oh yeah i gotta start watching it oh they're steel wrestling and then the water skiing is crazy so like louis adam and roe is like the alabama of water skiing that's amazing they're like bringing in kids from europe to waterski so you got you got some dude from denmark flying in the minn row louis adam like oh i live here now are they are they so good that they're bad for college water skiing

probably like you con women's basketball they're ruining water skiing yeah the geno oriam of water skiing i haven't really had a chance to interview him yet but like you but going back to what big cat was talking about taking like some of the the other teams that you know get forgotten about your vendor builds right like you could you could look at it from the perspective of because the tv contracts are so big vendor builds their football teams making money because the rest of the sec couldn't the rest of the sec be like hey we don't need these nerds why do we continue to give them this is the most common question i get i have never heard once anybody suggests who's actually in a decision-making position kicking anybody out of a league right

and i think they tread carefully around that because nobody wants to think about well if i lose too many games or my my team loses too many games they might get tossed the by the way the other most common question i get is when are they going to do promotion and relegation like english which would work which would be so much fun but yeah nobody's gonna do it right because it means here's your budget if you if you finish in the top 17 here's your budget if you finish in the bottom three right but they're not going to do that the bandy thing that and you hear what some of the big 10 schools where well why don't why don't they just kick them out i don't think it's that easy to kick them out i think you have to do something really bad to get kicked out now maybe they changed the rules

down the road but i think we're pretty far away from anything like that i think there they'll be more adding before there's any sort of calling the the the main point of why they'll never kick anyone out like i my hype my hypothetical was more duke doesn't get kicked out the ACC doesn't exist like right stanford doesn't get kicked out half of the pack 12 goes to the big 10 half of the pack 12 goes to big 12 and they're stuck being like well what the fuck i maryland owes the big 10 like millions and millions and millions of dollars they're not getting kicked out maryland and ruckers and you could even make the argument for like mazu like they might have been the the greatest like the luckiest schools in the world to get in when they got in they came along at the

perfect time because the reason ruckers and maryland are in the big 10 and the reason Missouri's in the sec is when those leagues were expanding at that time not now at that time it was enhancing the big 10 network starting the sec network you were looking to acquire territory cable homes that you could then charge like a dollar 40 a month for your conference network that's what that was so the reason they went the sec went into Missouri instead of saying you know Florida state or Clemson come on in was they already had schools in South Carolina and Florida right so they went to Missouri and and you get the st louis market and the kc market and all those subscribers have to pay for your network ditto for maryland ditto for ruckers in the big 10 so and it's also

why north Carolina and virginia are still very coveted because they would have been very coveted then too big 10 and sec still making money off the cable network so for either of those leagues either of those schools would be very nice to add because those are the two biggest states that don't have an sec or a big 10 school so there's money in that too right so how did it work with the acc that they got locked into this contract that doesn't you said 2036 2036 they panicked so they panicked they lost maryland maryland was a charter member of the acc they lose them to the big 10 at the time they all wanted to stay together like they were worried about the league just getting torn apart by the big 10 that was cherry pick what it wanted maybe the sec would take somebody

and then they'd be left with with not a lot of value so they basically said let's all figure this out let's find a way that nobody can pick us apart and so in 2013 they signed this grant of rights they bring in Notre Dame to do its you know it's other sports in the acc and then play five games a year and say against acc schools and then they renewed it in 2016 when they extended their their tv contract to create the acc network so that's when they renewed it for 20 years and at the time is like hey we said this great deal we're together forever oh wait we're gonna get the same amount of money for 20 years that that reality set in about three years into the deal and then they're like oh crap what what have we done yeah that just seems so excessive to me to have that

long of a contract in anything in life yeah like besides the marriage it doesn't exist maybe when you buy a house and usually when you buy a house after like three years you're like wow okay it's it's Bobby Bonilla yeah it's like it's just these it's all just like Larry Scott ruined the pack 12 just I disagree with a big cat because now he didn't do the greatest job in the world he certainly wasted the the conference's money building some palatial headquarters in downtown San Francisco he certainly paid himself a lot but Larry Scott never had an ability to make more people on the west coast care about college football which is the biggest problem but he made it a lot harder for anyone to watch the games which went reverse like I agree with you like to make people care

more hard task to make people care less he can he accomplish that the pack 12 network is very hard to find I can't I live in Florida I can't get it anywhere neither can I it's crazy and it's it is amazing how that works and so the yeah the ACC they were so scared and wanted security so badly that they were willing to sign anything at that point and and so that's what they want to and so this this most recent deal you know there's there's talk out there that the the ACC and the pack 12 were talking about a loose agreement I'm using air quotes there I but it kind of sounds like they basically share the ACC network which I be pissed if I were the ACC and very if on the pack 12 like am I getting any money out of that or is the ACC gonna get the money right it just

seems like we're definitely going towards a place where it's football completely separated right and like yeah you know certain basketball schools obviously separated too because with the geographic issues that we have now it makes no sense for the non-revenue sports to be lumped in this whole thing so at some point it's going to be like I wouldn't be surprised if there was like a corporation that started a league like Nike like Oregon's like okay we're going to do the Nike league and we're going to invite you know all the former pack 12 schools that we wanted poached some from from the big 12 and that will be the Nike conference like at some point it's going to be like completely are partially separated from the actual schools themselves yeah and I think that's that's sort

of the fear and kind of feels a little bit inevitable because some of the issues that they're having now with the name image likeness stuff and and all the different lawsuits that they've been dragged into in federal court it's gotten to the point where their easiest solution is probably make that the revenue sport athletes employees and then do a collective bargaining agreement with them that would be that they can actually make some rules and actually enforce them if they did that but if you do that are they students do they have to be students doesn't matter I mean so it you get into that sort of thing where it basically you could be licensing the name of the university now I still think people are going to watch it I'm with you big cat I've

heard you talk about this a bunch of times and and my my thing to people especially where I live in the south what the hell else are you going to do on a Saturday right we're going to watch it like I'm going to be mad well like I said the the right realignment sucks but at the end of the day I'm going to still watch it and that's the same thing I feel with NIL when people are like oh the NIL is going to ruin college football it's like you're still going to watch it on set if Ohio State's playing Penn State at 8 8 p.m. on Saturday night you're going to watch I'm sorry but it doesn't matter if the starting quarterbacks getting paid ten million dollars because he signed an e-sports contract like with phase clan it doesn't matter it's just not like you're going to keep

watching it and that's it's kind it's very similar to like whenever the NFL does something and people bitch and moan it's like guess what you're doing on Sunday yeah we see the ratings like yeah right you can say whatever you want we know what you're doing right and it yeah with college football as long as the guys in the jerseys that you like be the guys in the jerseys you don't like you're going to be happy right yeah as long as you can get drunk in a parking lot before a game on Saturday with your course with your closest friends that you've been drinking beers with for 30 years as long as you can still do that then you're going to still show up and go to the game doesn't matter who you're playing um all right I had one last one so and then we'll

do the Mount Rushmore so it's the row back question use code row back or sorry use code take for 20% off your first purchase rhobacck.com row back.com use code take great qzips hoodies polos everything you need row back.com use code take for 20% off your first purchase all right so give us your uh this is we're not holding you to it okay but give us the like dominoes that that you have heard might fall that would be like wow this is crazy because I'll throw one out there I heard North Carolina the big 10 is like you know could be a possibility that one shocked me a little but I guess it shouldn't because nothing North Carolina would be the biggest tug of war because the big 10 and the sec both want them right badly right that's the one like their former chancellor

came out the other day and said they could have joined the sec in 2010 well 2011 12-ish when they took Texas A&M in Missouri so and I believe that 100% North Carolina has long been coveted by the big 10 and the sec Virginia is another one like I always thought if the sec were going to take a school in Virginia be Virginia Tech they would like Virginia but the big 10 would also like Virginia right right so what what do you think like give us the wildest one you've heard or wherever there's smoke that you see like hey this wouldn't be that crazy if this happened the wildest one I've heard and I don't know if this is something they can pull off but you go back in the history of realignment so remember when the pack 10 tried to take half the big 12 that

originated with some very loose discussions about potentially the two leagues pooling their TV rights and selling them as one and eventually Larry Scott goes you know what if I just steal their best teams we're gonna need a better TV deal let's just do that and it didn't work because Texas was playing one one group against the other but when I hear this ACC talking to the pack 12 about this loose arrangement I'm like huh you know what the ACC could do they could just steal what's left of the pack the best what's left of the pack 12 now that makes no sense like to have a bunch of schools on the Atlantic coast and oh by the way you're called the Atlantic coast conference right and then you take a bunch of schools on the Pacific coast but as ideas go like take

it Oregon and Washington and maybe Utah and Colorado or something like like that's not the worst idea no I like that one it's not the coastal conference yeah that would be that Notre Dame would fully join the ACC no they could play in every state because they could play in every state the coastal that's true that's what they should what about here's a school what if what if Syracuse Syracuse to the big 10 that's another lucky one right now that would be very lucky I you know that would that would mean that some big 10 presidents really believed it when they were traveling to New York and saw on the top of their cab Syracuse New York's team TV's in New York that's all I'm saying like a lot of TV's in New York and very few of them turn

tune to Syracuse yes yes that's yeah that's like Northwestern Chicago's team it's like I'm pretty sure the majority of people here rooting for Notre Dame still so it is what it is but yeah the it's going to be crazy I don't know what the next big one is going to be I'm hoping the big 10 just keeps gobbling everything up and I know that sounds terrible but I also I feel like we're going to eventually get to big 10 in the SEC having 20 teams of peace and I'd rather just get there now and then because that's the other thing as soon as this is the new normal like once we get a year or two past it you'll forget it you know what I mean like like Nebraska joining the big 10 was crazy for a year and then it was like oh yeah now Nebraska's in the big 10

well that's like when Texas and Oklahoma left the big 12 they're like they're leaving behind all that history in the big 12 I'm like the big 12 started when I was a freshman in college right right it's not like it's been around forever right there's a couple rivalry games that suffer but yeah you're you're exactly right like you start to get you get normalized the new thing and then it's just so I want to get to the end game as fast as possible and then just go from there yeah I'm with you because this is going to be painful this one in particular the rest of them were bad enough there's going to be some people really kind of left by the wayside and it's going to suck and I would prefer if they just get it over with you don't drag this out for three four

years because it just makes it more painful right what about what about the other other conferences the small the max of the world the sun belts what happens hey I don't know if you've been see this is where you know those of us who are really in the weeds we've been watching this but big cat especially I'm surprised you aren't aren't really in on this the sun belt has come up now oh it's massive coastal use the domino effect of texas in Oklahoma yeah to go from like number 10 to number seven yeah yeah at a JMU JMU about to go in a dominant run yeah I think they got to get past them raging cajans they gotta get past api state I would get past marshal coastal I would say that division is up there like with with the ACC oh yeah well coastal Carolina I mean

that that teal turf Jamie Chadwell their coach that they are fantastic that's that might be one of my favorite teams watching college football fun belt needs to play more weeknight games because they do play like Thursday night games you'll watch it'll be like you know a million mile an hour wind in Appalachian state and no one can hit any any field goals but like that's credit to the credit to the Mac I know that it's always sad and we joke about it when there's like 20 people in the stadium but guess what again you're watching on a Tuesday night because hell yeah you're watching and every state that legalizes gambling increases viewership right for those games could something like that happen where a conference like the sun belt

could pick up some of the schools some of the bigger schools that get left out of the realignment it's certainly possible if they're smart because that's kind of what they did conference USA used to be considered more prestigious than the sun belt they just swiped a bunch of conference USA this past year like that's that's how they got southern miss and Marshall and like that that's what that was it was them saying look this conference is not as good anymore look how strong we've become in the meantime come on and and that's kind of what the big 12 could do to the ACC I think if if things were to shake out that way if that grant of rights gets broken in the ACC all bets are off no telling what anybody's going to be be doing at that point because

it would it would cause a massive panic at a bunch of schools and everybody just be running in every direction yeah yeah I mean a contract isn't really worth anything if you can't enforce it and if there are enough powerful schools that just decide like in unison if you get like Clemson uh UVA Virginia Tech uh to all decide like at the same time you know what we're done with this contract it would be tough to enforce anything on them maybe that it would be maybe that's the key Elon Musk needs to say he's going to buy all college football and then have every super league yeah lose their minds and be like no i'm backing out um i mean they're basically doing the super league just in two two different versions yeah

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is great well may yeah don't jinx it don't jinx it yeah he very much could listen to that you never know tell you jake i i've never left a podcast to to move my bowels i guarantee you marv albert never left a broadcast oh well because yeah you got a pretty good meals are different don't worry would you shit himself i'm not even feeling cheese sticks before broadcast okay well i don't want it more than that so we're not as important no that's not true okay all right you put yourself in that pickle yeah um all right andy you want to start or you want to tell anyone else to start whatever you want to do here's my thing if i start i'm gonna you know who i'm gonna take well i'm gonna be i'm gonna be that guy you're gonna pander yeah i'm gonna tell you right now

you have none of our picks oh okay fine then i will do it okay i'll take you i'll take jump around great you don't have any of our picks that's great okay all right all right all right that's a great pick uh shout out jump around i i always tell the story but they you know they tried to ban it my freshman year because they said the it was like a hazard for the journalists in the uh press box you can hear the bolts creaking in the past box yeah i was not one of your picks yeah as i what how's that not because there's a lot of great tradition so many things we got a lot of things because i also knew that someone else is gonna take it all right we'll go with our first pick um that's your college tradition no they said we have a strong first thing here oh all right fine you

want you want you want my my all right i'll go my favorite college tradition and pft agrees with this one we talked beforehand betting the over in bedlam no matter what yeah no matter what no matter what Oklahoma and Oklahoma State play it's you're betting the over put on your points i was at the one where the year kyler started for Oklahoma i thought my face was gonna melt off it's the best hit taylor cornelly is throwing there's a wide open guy in that two-point conversion he just misses him it was it was amazing and the best one i gotta look up the year remember the year when there was um there was a score right at the end it's kind of the tyreek hill there was that one yeah they screwed up like it screwed up everything i think it's it screwed up the spread

and maybe the overunder and i think it was the year that there was like no points in the first quarter and then it just all broke loose but that's why it's the best because i could just sit there and watch bedlam and know like you're never out of it because it's gonna be bedlam at some point it will be bed i think both teams defense is going to the game knowing like hey we're gonna fuck a lot of stuff up just wait it's gonna happen yeah just don't be the last team to fuck up exactly make one stop in the fourth quarter and you can win this game yeah i think it was uh let's see i'll find i'll find it and then the thing i always love about that game is the sky in oklahoma in uh still water especially it's the blackest sky you'll ever see in your life

yeah and sometimes there's an ice storm yes when it's cold and you're like uh oh it's gonna affect it no points i i'm sure someone some fucking nerd's gonna tweet at me view like the overunder is like you know two and two and ten in the last twelve years still gotta bet it don't give a fuck like gundy yeah his his mullet is always like perfectly feathered before that game the whole thing is just the best the best um okay uh you guys had that huh yeah we did okay nice uh we're gonna go this might be controversial we're gonna go with tailgating oh drinking beer just tailgating general concept of tailgating okay okay that's my favorite yeah great golf football tradition especially in new york city where there are fans of every team yes yeah we have that we have that one

too later on uh and then second neck oh yeah very nice yeah we had neck also on my list now um all right this is i think it's an easy one here okay yeah round two yeah um singing after the game in army navy yep i was sorry sorry you guys aren't as patriotic as me and big cat are but i mean you see that and you cry winner winners sing last you chose betting no we're gonna sing first i'm an idiot winners sing first yes that's right yes that's the best it is the best is it sing second nothing is it sing second i think it's sing second it's bad for our tradition here that we don't know i just like both i think they're all winners out there and because they're fine outstanding young men that are going to serve this country well they got up very early in the

morning their whole freshman year so whatever whatever flowers we can give them absolutely it's it's winners sing second hey what did you say what was nothing no no no no i'm done i'm i'm i'm done this i comment it was probably something anti-military patriotism i i know of course of course okay all right uh you have two now andy all right i'm gonna go with run ralfi and so i spoke to one of the people who came up with the idea of running ralfi at colorado and it it was exactly what you think would be a bunch of frat boys sitting around going you know that'd be cool if we were in a live buffalo on a field yeah and so one of the one of them had a friend who had a dad whose dad was a bison farmer and they didn't even like i asked the guy i was like so did you

know that if he gave you a male that the male would probably kill you and did you ask for a female he's like no we didn't know we didn't know that thank god he gave us a female so yeah that's why you have a lime you're basically 1200 pound animal that can run faster than usain bolt yeah being handled by six college kids who are basically hanging on for dear life and it's also amazing it's a great pick too for our previous discussion about traditions and everything because like i do miss the colorado nabrasco game they did play the series i think the may was two years ago three years ago and it was great to see those colors out there but it also shows you what happened what's happened to college football and the change just keeps happening where like i bet you

have you asked the kid right now in his 20s like you know you know nabrasco and colorado had like an awesome rivalry they'd be like what they haven't been in the same conference in forever i know and they'd have no idea it's it's sort of like when i'm going back to the texas oklahoma thing the big 12 i remember i was arguing with somebody during some period of realignment and they're like they're like well texas in oklahoma they wouldn't play each other if they weren't in the same conference i'm like they did it for a hundred years right right right come on all right so my next one the boys uh went with the the very general concept of tailgating which is which is excellent getting gathering with your friends and drinking thank you drinking

i'm gonna go a little more specific okay the vol navy at tennessee okay because tailgating is excellent tailgating on a boat sale yeah i'm tailgating yes so you're saying it's just not even uh it's not even the same out in washington it's it's probably the same out in washington you're just richer right but no i'm saying like tennessee has washington beat easily uh because yeah it just means more it means yeah and they also just they happen to put salt on their food in tennessee yeah and in washington everything's like you get you're lucky if you get a little squeeze of lemon juice yeah on your pregame maybe a little tomato for your now washington at washington fans let's not let's not completely besmirch them washington and organ fans in as

pack 12 fans go they get after it yeah they absolutely get after it it's not like i remember the first time i went to a game at sanford and we turned into the the parking lots and i the first thing i see is a table with like three bottles of chardonnay on it i was like i i don't this doesn't compute right the washington fans do get after it so i don't want to i don't want them to think that that we're not it yeah we don't think they're making party but they can't party like tennessee people no i wish does doesn't yeah i went to the apple cup this year and the apple cup in in washington was fantastic the best part about the tailgating was there's this giant hill that has like a couple trees on it and that's where all the guys go to pee so that you just pee on a hill and when it's raining

outside which it usually is because it's november in washington um like 50% of the guys that are peeing on this hill just slip and fall down the hill into a stream of their own piss and i that is that is tremendous that's like watch in the grove at Ole Miss watching everybody in there in their four inch heels yeah trying to to stand in line for the porta potty and just sink into the mud yeah yes the uh and i should say washington since we're doing washington and we're we're we're complimenting them the craziest tv angles ever ever both both basketball and football uh and i'm a i have a simple brain if you have a good saying uh i will always think you're like a step away from being all the way back and then being able to say purple rain our eig is awesome like

that's just like that's gonna be sick and they always have like an awesome first round draft pick too right at washington right yeah cornerback or a quarterback all right like v vita vea former high school running back vita vea yes i was in noxville in 2015 they lost a heartbreaker like i think it was overtime double overtime maybe to oklahoma big game night game crazy atmosphere they lose in heartbreaking fashion and we are at the bars like on main street obviously everyone was deflated but when rocky top comes on everyone is depressed but they can't not sing it so it's like literally like it's going to go to all rocky top like that but they're but they're heartbroken it was so sad sad rocky time sad rocky time half bear all right i think pft we should go with uh when you

texted me back the second one and then i'll do the third one yeah that's good okay go for it uh the second one from my second text to you yes uh texas being back yep one of the best thing back it's every year yep usually like late september texas is back who just will it into existence set it back early this year yeah yeah no they're really back yeah they're really well they're pre-back because they're back in like two years but they're already pending art signing a piece of paper in in december yes exactly right but it's just you know the the discussion in and around texas are they back they're back and then to be like maybe they're not back it's just my favorite you know it's just every year when the when the when the leaves turn we do the same song and dance

and it always feels good all right i'm with you on that i i gave up on the whole texas is back i got fooled a few times like when i went from being a beat writer who just covered one school to covering more schools and you know would go to texas and you'd sit in mac brown's office and he explained why this is why it didn't work last year but we've made some changes this year and it's it's definitely gonna work i'd be like oh yeah because you're looking around that place going how could they not be good right there how can these people not be good but they fooled me enough times that i i really need to see it like i need to see them in the playoff before i will leave anything so that at that point that's your threshold if they make the playoff they're

officially back oh i think maybe when the big 12 before they leave i don't know i think at any point if they're in they're like projected playoff they're back yeah no so if they make the playoff rankings like in november yes my threshold is one big win in september they're back well they're playing alabama oh that's i don't think you're gonna get that big win this week if they lose by less than 21 they might be back that is your big win that might be back cover yeah if they cover against alabama they might be back yes that might be what what makes them back right there uh okay what's uh your next pick our next pick is a team game uh we know you guys only care about you know the betting and the players in the field for me and us and our team college football traditions it's

it's about it's bigger than that so watching our next pick we're going with the iowa wave to the hospital yeah that was nice yeah we had our list too that's a good pick for the kids it's for the kids so it's all about for us maybe not you guys it is sweet well you guys yeah a father so is andy so it's always about the kids and then yeah of course and then our last pick uh means you have kids no so you don't care about the kids i care i did you make it your memoirs one pick i'm just so we had it on our list yeah but you chose betting first well because we want the kids we didn't want to patronize the children we didn't want it i don't i care about the kids first no i kind of like for me it's like kids pick them first yeah you didn't so that's actually

correct you picked getting hammered you went to the third round yeah you tailgating so they they went getting hammered yeah the troops the kids yeah well no it's just like we have the troops the troops sorry what was your second pick neck neck yeah and then the kids okay got it no that's that no like we've actually talked about this beforehand we felt guilty like using the kids as a prop to be okay everybody vote for us because you don't vote for us you're not voting for the sick children that's not my favorite you don't have to you don't have to be at an Iowa football game to wave to the kids i wait for the culture football tradition it's a great one uh and then our last pick means pointing this out it was one of the things that ended covid one of the most

electrifying syriot uh no enter sandman yeah enter sandman electric every time there was one like early in september uh 2020 or 2021 or whatever and that was like the they posted the video and everyone was like this is this is an outrage how could you do this blah blah blah and that was kind of yeah that was a sick moment yeah and then the was that the game that north carolina got killed no yeah yeah yeah north carolina lost yeah north carolina lost uh okay our last pick is going to be responsibly responsibly uh trying to make all your money back on the late hawaii game responsibly responsibly it's like 1135 yeah and i'm listening my my favorite is because it most of the time they weren't televised finding the radio broadcast and uh robert kakua rest in

peace uh all-time broadcaster who that was also a nice welcome where it's like you got one eye open you look at the hawaii game they're playing you know san diego state or san ozay there's someone and you like look you're like all right hawaii's like they're like four and three they're okay but they won all their games on the island and then trying to deduce like all right and and and you always have the june jones you know colt brennan hawaii in your head tommy chang if even if you want to go all the way back you always have that in your head so you think there's going to be a lot of points it's just the best it's the best there's no better way to have the i i sit there with my phone in my ear laying in bed trying to stay up for the rest of the hawaii and you're

doing it because washington state killed you yeah right right something happened in the pack 12 that has me heartbroken exactly the dominos fell so i was going to give a shout to my alma mater and go with we are the boys of all florida where everybody sways in the third quarter and now now they play i won't back down after that dawn or gains will zone tom petty but i i don't think that fits in the with the theme of where everyone else is going so i've got to go further north we're gonna go to morgan town west virginia burning couches in celebration yeah now responsibly make sure it's your couch or you know like when we were in college our couches probably came from somebody else's garbage like if someone put a couch out to

to get taken away by the garbage we would take it first so like i would have no qualms about burning one of those couches to celebrate a big win it's a lot of fun i see nothing wrong with it's extremely dangerous but it's a lot of fun so i went to school at james mason which is very close to west virgin a lot of my friends went to west virginia a lot of west virginia football fans are at jmu that was like the team that they would follow um as they're like you know big school my freshman year a house that i would go to frequently had two guys that were big west virginia fans they took all their couches out burned them in the front lawn had a giant ass bonfire of couch right not that common at at a school that's not west virginia to celebrate a west virginia win

fire department shows up and they're like everybody get inside so we hide inside fire department comes to the door knocks on the door and they're like uh yeah we need to talk to whoever the property owner here is and they're like those aren't our couches sir and the guy from the fire department walks inside looks around there's no furniture in the house because it's all out on the lawn on fire i think they got arrested for it and went to jail but it was a great try it was a great attempt yeah so i went i don't somebody snuck up my weed on a couch yeah yeah somebody must have brought their furniture to my front yard and lit it on fire hope you catch the bastards that's fucking fantastic um all right we have honorable mentions that we want to do um i had a

couple i had you like this one andy i had uh people being mad about a big ten west team being in the college football playoff conversation it seems like every year every time a lot of mad about iowa whenever wisconsin has you know racked up a few wins people get very upset about that um i always enjoyed that a lot uh i also had maxion was just missed the cut but maxion is is one of my favorite uh the beth moans 11am big ten game is is also a favorite of mine ease your way into you know like whenever they they now come to you live from champagne yeah it's just something about it's like you know you go straight from the hype of game day and they're doing the you know everyone's going crazy and then it's just boom click right over and it's you know 8 000 people

in evanston i just i love it i love because i hey guess what the money's still the same on that game so uh i love i love always hearing her voice on saturday morning well dovetailing off that just brett bilima in general yeah he's a great he's an institution in his own right yes i had uh the pin state whiteout i know they stink in the whiteout games but it's still fun to watch um rolling the oaks or poisoning the oaks if you're harvey uptike rolling tumors corner was was one of my honorable mentions but yeah tennessee losing a rivalry game yep that's always a lot happens all the time like like three times a year um and then yeah i think i think they took all the all the other ones i also had uh nebraska pretending that steroids didn't exist in the 80s and 90s

but no more balloons no more balloons helium shortage this one is there's a couple that i had that are gone that i've missed dearly uh organ always losing to a more physical team in november that happened last year yeah but no but like oh yeah i guess it did who did yeah you're right utah kick yeah you talk kick crap out twice yeah yeah all right so that actually still does exist i guess it was more when they were doing the chip kelly style offense and they'd score a billion points great stanford would beat him yeah and then stanford would kick the shit out of him also off of that one of my favorite college football traditions is during the chip kelly era when you would bet on oregon or the over and it would be on the bottom line and it would be oregon eight nothing

1415 left in the first quarter and you'd be like fuck yes like we're off and running that was that was one of the most thrilling things you could watch and then the last one i had that's no longer here hopefully someday we get it back um urban mayer losing to a far inferior opponent opponent and then citing medical uh issues they they had just the craziest ones that like i i went back and looked at that prudu game that iowa game yeah i did they make no sense like ohio state doesn't lose those anymore yeah yeah they almost had went to maryland too yeah that was the one where urban was collapsing yeah yeah he was like strapped to a garden he looked like he'd freeze by the end of it okay any other honorable mentions for you yeah i got a couple i i got the uh the cowbells at mississippi

state they actually spent a week at sec spring meetings in destin one year debating on whether they would allow the ringing of cowbells at mississippi state and uh davis wade stadium allowed to have cowbells it's a glorious thing one of my favorite memories so in back in 2014 they beat auburn they moved to number one in the poll the next day i'm flying home i covered the game in sartreville and i was flying home out of birmingham and there's this guy sitting at my gate in a birmingham airport and i'm looking at him he's like messing with his hand and i see he's got a giant blister between his thumb and index finger in that area and i go that's not from ringing a cowbell is it and he's like as a matter of fact it is it's my family cowbell i was like you people

are amazing that's awesome i got that one i love by the way the idea of with all this conference realignment like if notodame went to the sec or stanford ended up with the sec or something like the mix of fan bases like mississippi state cowbell in south ben indiana how mad notodame alums would be like that kind of shit makes me laugh so much when they're young fans stand up to cheer yes yes so i got mid i got midnight yell at texas a&m uh as another honorable mention that's and then uh buckeye stickers okay y'all probably were probably middle school when this came out that was my freshman year of college there was one of those this is sports intercom commercials and it has i don't know if he was the actual ohio state equipment manager or an actor

playing him but he's explaining how you get a buckeye sticker he's like make a big hit buckeye sketch and touchdown pass buckeye and so i was i was a walk on at the time and like that was the big joke in our scrub walk on locker room like anytime anybody did anything of significance we just scream buckeye so that that will always have a place in my heart i like i always thought you could use somebody as a decoy on that and take like your shittiest player load their helmet up with stickers and draw a ton of attention from the defense and then have your best player with a completely brand new fresh helmet thinking about that so i we did a rewatch on the podcast of the 2015 ohio state michigan state game that you mentioned that ppt that's genius because like

what if they took all the stickers off of joey bosa's helmet yeah no one would know what you know is joey bosa right because it's november even he has a clean helmet it can't be joey bosa right yeah right like this guy's a scrub he hasn't even been in the game it's like the other boaster brother that no one's talked about yet yeah like getting his first action yeah um all right well this has been great uh we'll do you know we'll do the the worst uniforms another time and we'll we'll give people i want to make people anxious about that because there's definitely some fan bases that they just hear us saying we're gonna do worse uniforms at some time and like you know mississippi state maybe indiana they're all like oh not us but yeah i can tell you i don't know if

you're doing alternates or just the the normal uniforms if you're doing alternates my alma mater the university of florida is probably going to win yeah i know what you're talking about i know what you're talking about they're like they're the gators let's make them look like actual alligators yes yes it was incredible they had oh my god yeah brown yes it was crazy it looks like you had like a ghillie suit on yeah yeah basically and they lost as as you would expect yes i mean there's a clear number one for me maybe we can save it yeah save it let's save it let's do it right we'll do it when you come back on before the season kicks off perfect all right andy thank you everyone go check out andy andy staples show he's on the athletic we appreciate your time um and

we're very i think we're under 50 days to college football cannot wait i'd rather talk about games than realignment yes absolutely all right thanks andy okay that's the show let's do numbers uh ready is everyone ready yeah is everyone ready i'll take a few i'll take a few as well give me 14 and 18 well no mine is i'm just doing two oh yeah that's a few two okay i was taking a few i'm taking two different numbers why don't you why don't you do two numbers Hank give it a try no give it a try i'm giving my number to you go two numbers you get two numbers oh my god are you just are you just standing us off right now does he do it 99 i was thinking that's a lot that's a lot that's like a lot of that's you just doubled up my like

yeah your chances my game planning 98 99 okay uh i don't know if that was the right one you got six six jake 26 here we go thanks god 98 you did well it's like going to the ice cream store and someone being like you get two cones yeah you should be able to sample the numbers 39 did he want that right yeah no 37 six time wait i think it's 39 it's 39 for the what the fuck what is wrong with you you're definitely okay no i'm not okay this is like the face i who are you we don't recognize you oh my god he was 39 oh shit i gotta take it easy that's that's like the moment of concern for me yeah no that was very concerning i'm concerned like i that's like if mr portnoy forgot all three of the words that's what just happened to my

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