Pardon My Take - CFB With Andy Staples, 1 Question With Joe Burrow, Russell Wilson Trainwreck + FAQ's

Episode Date: October 19, 2022

The Russell Wilson Trainwreck continues in Denver, we talk about a weird MNF game (00:02:35-00:21:12). Playoff baseball and the Yankees advance rocking the baby (00:21:12-00:30:07). Hot Seat/Cool Thro...ne including basketball, Draymond Green, Rats in NYC and more (00:30:07-00:55:14). Our friend Andy Staples joins the show to talk College Football, Tennessee being back, the maximum chaos scenario and more (00:55:14-01:38:13). 1 Question with a Quarterback with Joe Burrow (01:38:13-01:45:03) and we finish the show with listener FAQ's including some insight on the state of the show (01:45:03-02:02:08).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friend Andy Staples on to talk college football. One question with a quarterback with Joe Burrow after his return to Louisiana. We have some Monday night football recap to talk about Russell Wilson. It's gotten somehow worse. Talk a little playoff baseball. We're going to finish up with FAQs and guys on checks. A little combo, dealer's choice, and it is brought to you by our friends at game time. MLB playoffs are underway, and if you plan on getting tickets, you need game time. Game time is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever to score last-minute
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Starting point is 00:02:56 PFT, Hank and I are taking Max to the Philly's NLCS game and by taking, I mean, we're buying them tickets through the game time app. You can do it right now. It's an awesome app exclusive to Barstool Sports. Today is Wednesday, October 19th. And the Broncos have somehow gone from bad to worse, Monday night football. I actually, I'm going to say this and I know this people will be like, oh, you're just saying this to be opposite. I enjoy having the Broncos on prime time football, because every time it's a story, it's bad football, but it's you see something new every time. And it's a bad, it's a weird story. And we had an overtime last night that was tied 1616, that had 16 plays for 16 yards, no first downs and the Chargers win off of a muff punt, never
Starting point is 00:03:46 getting a first down in overtime. And the Broncos are as rock bottom as it gets. So there's the, the old Kevin Clark tweet front of the program about the Seahawks of like the Seahawks have never played a normal game. The problem wasn't the Seahawks problem was Russell Wilson. It follows him wherever he goes. And it's he always plays hilarious brands of football. You see, like you said, like brand new shit that you haven't seen at all. So I tuned in, I was able to catch the fourth quarter and overtime yesterday. So I'm remote right now, dealing with some real life, like family, personal stuff. But I was able to tune in for the fourth quarter, I was following along my phone, I was so confused. Because in the first half, I was like, Russell Wilson, holy shit, he's back,
Starting point is 00:04:27 he's fixed everything. And the first half, just lighting it up. And then he went backwards somehow in the second half. I think he I think they had like negative 13 yards, cumulative passing in the second half for Russell Wilson. So they stopped doing everything that was working, I was very confused watching it. And then as it goes into overtime, I'm like, what's wrong with Dustin Hopkins, their kicker can't kick. He's got one leg. Russell Wilson is going out there and just they're, he's not able to pass the ball physically. I don't think he was hurt. I think his brain is hurt at this point. I think that there's when people say like, is there something wrong with Russell Wilson? I think yes, there is. I think mentally, he's a broken man. Well, he is he is
Starting point is 00:05:08 hurt because we had we're now getting the full court press from Russell Wilson's PR team through NFL reporters because we had the report from Tom Pelicero that was, this was the concern pending test today. Russell Wilson plays through pretty much everything, but his health will be worth monitoring again on a short week leading up to Sunday's game. And then Ian Rappaport quote, tweeted it and said, after the MRI, Russell Wilson is considered day to day source said, it's a real injury and he's in real pain, but he's pushing to play. That was that was one of those reports that came directly from an agent. It's a real injury and he's in real pain just so that we all know Russell Wilson playing so shitty that everyone is regretting the $250 million
Starting point is 00:05:53 contract he got. You got to know that he's in real pain and it's a real injury and he will play through it. And my real girlfriend lives in Canada and she's a real model. It's, it was so funny seeing that tweet being like, well, that's very predictable. And yeah, the game was PFT. The game was insane. It was insane on both sides because you not only had Russell Wilson who came out and looked good for the first, I don't know, quarter and a half through a touchdown pass, like kind of look like old Russell Wilson scrambling around a little, but then it just devolved into that neither team being able to do anything. You had Justin Herbert throw for 57 attempts for 238 yards and no touchdowns. He basically, like the Broncos defense is very good. And so it was Justin Herbert
Starting point is 00:06:40 throwing dump downs, check downs, and then Russell Wilson not being able to do anything and like multiple times having blitzes come that no one blocked and he would just get absolutely smushed. And the overtime, like I said, I know that this is going to be people are going to be like, you're trying to go against the grain, but if you watch that game, it was so stupid and it was so similar to the Colts game Broncos Colts. It was so stupid and it became so hilariously bad that it's interesting. I'd rather have a high scoring game. I'd rather have Derek Carr versus Patrick Mahomes all day, but there's something about a Broncos prime time game that is fascinating to watch because it's just a car crash for 60 minutes plus last night. Nathaniel Hackett doing dumb shit. Russell
Starting point is 00:07:24 Wilson not being able to figure it out and their defense being elite and it all just winds up as the Broncos two and four. Do the Broncos ever practice blitz pickups? Because from what I saw in the fourth quarter in overtime, they were just they're rushing guys up the middle the entire time. What's his name? Drew Tranquil was just not being touched. They just weren't touching him. And then Russell Wilson would drop back and immediately get sacked. It's like, okay, maybe put somebody back there to chip, maybe put an extra tight end in, maybe do something anything different on offense to try to pick up this blitz because they weren't it seemed like they weren't even trying at that point. It seemed like Nathaniel Hackett was pissed off at Russell
Starting point is 00:07:58 Wilson is like, okay, you're really hurt. Okay, I'm going to put you in real pain. Then I'm just going to get your ass kicked for the entire fourth quarter in overtime. It was very bizarre seeing that and like you compare Nathaniel Hackett to like what's going on with the New York Giants and all the small things that we keep talking about. That's the type of thing like figuring out how to how to pick up blitzes and how to make adjustments over the course of a game. Like Nathaniel Hackett might be an offensive guru and I like Nathaniel Hackett. I want to have him back on the show. Nice guy. Very nice guy. I want to root for him. His son thinks Blake Bortles has a huge penis, great family. But you also have to be like, wait, this is something that you're
Starting point is 00:08:35 just not prepared for at all. Just because you're a good offensive coordinator doesn't mean you know how to do all this stuff. There was another part in overtime. I think we might have seen the best catch that never counted. Mike Williams diving catch on the sideline. I could not believe that he hauled that in. And I think he might have touched his toe down. And they only showed it like once. But I bet I think if they had like the NBC at angle or whatever it is for ESPN where they zoom in, I think his left foot touch the and it's tough to say like, if your foot touches like a blade of that fake grass, does that count or does it have to hit like the the rubber pellets for it to count because I think he grazed the grass. And the craziest part about that catch
Starting point is 00:09:22 wasn't even the catch. It's the fact that that's how good Pat Sertan is, that Mike Williams didn't do anything last night because Pat Sertan just locked him down, that Mike Williams had to make maybe the best catch of his career that didn't count to even have a chance to like make an impact. I think I saw a stat that Pat Sertan has given up like 150 yards this season as a primary defender. Like he just completely locks down a side of the field and that Broncos defense like the other, the other thing we had, and I know, I know we pick on Russell Wilson, but it has been a big storyline in this NFL season, especially because they've been playing on prime time so much. But at halftime, they showed the entire Broncos team going to the locker room and Russell
Starting point is 00:10:04 Wilson was standing outside the locker room, essentially making everyone high five him and the body language was not great. It was not great. And I, it feels like with the way the Broncos defense is playing, there have to be some pretty pissed off dudes in that locker room that are like how, how, how do we not win these games when we hold down Justin Herbert to, he has to throw 57 times to get 200 yards. Like when we make Matt Ryan look like he should retire. And we keep losing these games because Russell Wilson can't make the plays that he was paid to come to Denver and make. Yeah, I think he just makes everybody around him uneasy. Everybody's got a friend like that in their life or like an acquaintance, somebody that maybe you're
Starting point is 00:10:46 in a class with that just bad vibes. And Russell Wilson is a freak athlete. So he, he kind of skates by a lot of that stuff. But if like Russell Wilson, if his brain was born into Michael Sarah's body, he would be writing a manifesto somewhere. He would be like completely shunned and he would not have any friends. It's crazy. And it feels like it's, I mean, I guess now that we can do the injury thing. Like I, Dion actually called this last week. He's like Russell Wilson will definitely say that he has an injury if he plays bad. And it does feel like this is a situation where Russell Wilson could, if it keeps going bad, be like, I'm out for the year and just do a fresh start. And I actually wouldn't blame him because a fresh start is almost what this team needs because it's,
Starting point is 00:11:28 the vibes have been so bad and the games have been so bad. And you even think about the games they won because they've won two games. They beat the Texans and that was closer than it should have been. And then remember, they beat the Niners because Jimmy Garoppolo, Daniel Rolofsky himself. So it's not just like the losses are bad. The wins haven't been like, they haven't had one good game of football through six weeks. And we also are now getting the old fashion. It happens every year where everyone complains about the NFL product. I, for the first time, I kind of see it not because the games are so bad. I just don't think there's more than three or four really good teams. Like when you think about the really good teams, the Bills and the Eagles are playing
Starting point is 00:12:09 really good football. The Chiefs, the Giants and Jets, you could throw in there, but like everyone else has, all the other teams that are supposed to be in that elite category have had some real stinker of games and some of them on prime time. And it makes you think like, whoa, does everyone sock? I think a lot of it is that defenses are really good now. Like just because it's not like a shitload of high scoring games doesn't necessarily mean that it's bad football. It's all depending on like the perspective that you look at it from. We've been conditioned over the last like 10 years to be shootouts, shootout, shootouts. That's where we're going for all the rule changes. Football, all the innovation football has come on like the spread side of the game, just trying to figure
Starting point is 00:12:52 out ways to really exploit the passing game. And now we've got some really good defenses. I think like the Broncos, the Broncos defense is awesome. They're very, very, very good. They're like super bowl quality defense. And so you're right. And it's also, you know, I mean, there's been a lot written about it that a lot of teams are going more into cover two and basically keeping everything in front of them and saying, Hey, we're not going to let explosive plays beat us. So you don't see these like, you know, red zone, holy shit, 80 yard touchdowns as much. But it does, it does feel like, I mean, and I guess this it's, I know people are like, Oh, it's more positions than just a quarterback, but the quarterback is the most important position in all of American sports.
Starting point is 00:13:31 And when quarterbacks like Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, like you can go down the list of guys that have struggled a little bit, Russell Wilson, like guys that are supposed to be elite Kyler, Kyler Murray, like Matthew Stafford, that, that affects the play where they aren't playing their best football. The games don't look as good. Yeah, I thought I was ruined for a second for a tie last night in overtime. We got that game had tie energy. We got jipped out of a tie. I don't know if I can say the G word anymore. No, you can't. We got screwed out of a tie against the Colts when it was the Colts and the Broncos. This felt like it had a tie and it got first down. There was no that's such a smart play. Why don't teams do that more on punts? It's just blocked the other guy
Starting point is 00:14:16 into their, into the guy that's got to catch the ball. It's so smart. No one got a first down. It was crazy. Like watching Dustin Hopkins fall over, like he got his leg blown off with a grenade three times in a row. It was awesome. Yeah, it was all game. He had the wrap on. He was like, they kept on showing him. I've never seen a kicker poured on more that they were injured. And like, he would just fall down. It was, he wasn't getting hit. He would just kick and then just fall down and then like slowly get up and then put the wrap on. Yeah, then put the wrap on and everyone would be like, damn, Dustin Hopkins really gutting it out. They put him on his shoulders after the last kick for a second. I was like, what's what's going on right now? Why are we,
Starting point is 00:14:53 why are we doing that? I guess that's the only time Dustin Hopkins will ever have that treatment. And to be fair, for the Chargers that franchise, they don't, they're not really known for having a heroic kickers at a given point. So that to them was like, that's as good as it's going to get. But yeah, I am, I am curious to see what Billy has to say too about Billy. Why is offensive football so offensive this year? No, because just as we were saying that cover two, everyone's playing the real evolution in the defense is the linebackers. They're more athletic. They're built to stop the rushing quarterback. And with that, you're seeing teams that stack it up and take advantage of these lighter guys. The age of the whole pluger, like a Ray Lewis, Earl Acker, he used to just
Starting point is 00:15:31 hit the hole. That sort of was phased out with these new agile quarterbacks and different spread offenses. But now you're seeing guy. Oh, no, no. Cut out. Right. When we were getting smaller Billy, it was actually the internet did Billy a favor because he was he was on a real hot streak right there. So good job internet cutting Billy off. So far, you made great points. Yeah, that was great points. But but you know what I'm saying? Like when you actually like, even Lamar has had cut And like, yeah, you cut out. So, but it was great point up until you cut out. You were dead, right? Yeah. It's actually, you should have more points cut out because it cuts you off right before you could say
Starting point is 00:16:09 something that will then incriminate yourself. So it was like, it was the perfect Billy point. But, um, I also, uh, what I want to, what I wanted to say was even though it's been bad through six, six weeks, this does happen every year where September looks sloppy and then good teams start playing better and, and the bad teams start to fade and you get like this equal, like everything levels off and we get good football down the stretch. So I'm not freaking out. I'm just noticing like for the first time, people always make this complaint and I'm usually like, ah, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Who cares? They're usually just complaining about like the standalone games. This time it does actually have a little bit of merit that the like, you know, Unders are hitting at a crazy pace. The games don't have as many points. It hasn't, there haven't been like all these incredible, you know, instant classic type games, but I think they're coming. That's my whole point. I think they're coming. Maybe not this week because unfortunately for the people that say that the games suck, we have the Eagles, the bills, the Vikings and the Rams all on by.
Starting point is 00:17:08 So, um, it's going to be, it's going to be like a, you know, grab your lunch pail type of Sunday, real football fans only. Uh, but it will, it will happen. We'll get there. We will get there. I think all those quarter break or all those teams that you mentioned, the ones that were starting slow, those are the guys that didn't play in the preseason either. Maybe you would have been good for Russ Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett to have played in a couple of games in the preseason. Maybe that would help them in mid-October at some point.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, Jake, Jake schedule, remind me in December, mid December, if there's a bad Thursday, Sunday or Monday night game, I'm going to be like, probably should have played the starters in preseason because that feels like that has some legs later on in the season. It's probably going to be a Super Bowl take as well. Yeah, probably should have started these guys in the preseason. Um, but yeah, it was, it was, uh, again, it was an eventful game and I know that they're not aesthetically pleasing watching the Broncos play,
Starting point is 00:18:02 but I kind of am going to miss that. I don't think they have another prime time game for like a month and a half or so. No, London, two week at reverse prime time because they're playing the Jaguars. Yeah, that's the true London game. They're playing Christmas and they're playing Christmas Eve. No, Christmas day. There's a standalone game because they moved the bulk of the slate to Saturday. I think they did this like six or seven years ago.
Starting point is 00:18:21 There's three games on Christmas and they're all bad. I just, I, I don't know. I like what you just tune in because you're like, you don't know what kind of fucked up football you're going to watch and it's something interesting even though it is bad. And, uh, by the way, talking about schedule, the NFL remains king next year. Black Friday, we get a game, which they're just flexing on everything. And I love it.
Starting point is 00:18:44 I wish they had done this earlier where they're just like, we own every day. If there's other sports being played, tough shit, we're playing a game. No, it's, it's, it's a big brain move on their part because it's like Friday after Thanksgiving. What does Jeff Bezos do? He runs Amazon, right? Or he founded Amazon. He's trying to get people to stay home and buy shit online instead of going
Starting point is 00:19:05 to wait in stores. What better way to do that than to have games on television? People going to be on their asses on the couch. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, NFL is king as always. Uh, anything else from week six, we're going to do all of our college football talk with Andy Staples coming up.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Uh, PFT, you're, you're Carson Wentz. You've been relieved of Carson Wentz duty, which you should be happy about. No, I'm, no, I'm not happy about it. Big gap because I, you know, I was rooting so hard for this guy. Like nobody wanted him. We wanted him in DC. Like you saw Ron Rivera after that last game, right? He was crying.
Starting point is 00:19:38 He was like, I wanted this guy. I was the one that brought the binder's full of quarterbacks over to Mr. Snyder and I showed him, look at this guy. This guy is a guy that we can build around. I felt the same way. You saw me from day one. I was fully in support of Carson Wentz. I did everything that I could to try to make it work out.
Starting point is 00:19:54 It's just unfortunate that he had this injury in a game that he won actually. And I bet if you go back and you look at the history of Washington football team, Redskins, commanders, quarterbacks, he might be the first quarterback to win their last game with this franchise in 25 years. It's just that he went out on top. Thank you, Carson, for everything you contributed to the organization. And now it's Taylor Heineken time, bitch. And I'm pretty pumped up about Heineken going into Green Bay and just beating
Starting point is 00:20:21 the fuck out of Aaron Rodgers. I think that game's at home. At home. Yeah. Yeah. Then he'll go to Green Bay afterwards and kick his ass. I actually, I think I might have to bet on the commanders just, just on the, the theory that everyone hates Carson Wentz.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Like you, you have to, you have to bet on the commanders this week, just being like everyone hates this dude. He was not good. Taylor Heineken is a very likable guy who will just make shit happen. He's going to throw deep to your receivers that are very, very good. And fun shit's going to go down. Yeah. That's what's great about Taylor Heineken.
Starting point is 00:20:55 He's one of the most fun quarterbacks to watch. I personally, I don't mind watching Taylor Heineken even if we end up losing because it's just a fun brand of football. And I know that's, that's loser talk, but I knew last year we weren't going to win anything this year. We're probably not going to win anything. So yeah, put Heineken out there, have him just stir shit up, just make plays. Just, I want to see Taylor Heineken pointing downfield up into the air
Starting point is 00:21:18 and just fucking letting one sail. That's the Heineken. I know that's the, that's the brand of football I want to see played. Absolutely. Um, okay. So other stuff, baseball, the Yankees survive five game series against the Guardians after a rain delay on Monday night that people were pretty pissed about. Um, it was, it was a, it was a fun scene watching the Bronx today
Starting point is 00:21:39 because I love whenever a guy, uh, you know, showboats or, or does a celebration in, in it backfires instantly. And that happened with Josh Naylor who did rock the baby to Garrett Cole in game four. And, uh, from that moment on, the Guardians scored one run in 15 innings and the entire stadium was rocking the baby, including, was it Glaber? Who did it? The final out.
Starting point is 00:22:04 The final out, just shoving it back in their face. I have nothing against the Guardians. I was rooting for them. I, you know, pinch, right? Dan will tell you differently, but me, big cat, I was rooting for the Guardians and, uh, they have a young, fun team, but this will be fun to watch the Yankees lose to the Astros for like what seems like the 17th time in the last five years. That's what we all got.
Starting point is 00:22:24 If you don't have a dog in this fight, you got to be rooting for the Astros to come out and like, and play surprisingly well against the Yankees. If I'm the Astros, I start cheating again. Like, I want, I want them to just beat the fuck out of the Yankees and then to have the Yankees just looking around like, what the, what the hell just happened to us? I want spin rates to be off the chart, the series. I want them to be sending out umpires to the pitchers mound,
Starting point is 00:22:46 like every two innings looking underneath belts, underneath ball caps. I want them swiping behind ears, not finding anything. I want the Astros to get on the Horn of NASA and figure out all the most advanced new ways, maybe talk to Elon about it, the best new ways to cheat. And I want them to just dominate the Yankees. That would be, in my opinion, good for baseball. Jake is biting his lips because it goes against two things that Jake loves right now. One, the New York Yankees and two, sportsmanship.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Hold on. Jake, talk about the Yankees while I put Stella's collar and she's back on the show. Yeah. So obviously the Astros knocked out the Yankees and the ALCS in 2017 and 2019 and COVID happened right after that. The Astros have returned to Yankee Stadium since then, but I think Yankee Stadium for games three, four and five, that's going to be back to the front of their minds.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And this is revenge for both of those years. Are you saying that the Houston Astros caused COVID with their cheating? No, I'm saying that they didn't get a full fan reception due to the delay. Interesting. Interesting. You're saying the timing was suspicious. Not at all. Jake, do you have, do you give the Yankees any chance in this series?
Starting point is 00:23:59 Like they, they already are kind of fucked. Like I know, I love how everyone was complaining about the weather delay on Monday night. It was raining, but they were saying that the Yankees basically MLB decides whether the game's canceled or not, but people were putting on their, yeah, they were putting on tinfoil hats being like the Yankees did this because they wanted to get their pitching set, but not realizing the downside of this is they literally just beat the Guardians and then have to fly directly to Houston and play the Astros on Wednesday night.
Starting point is 00:24:28 And I mean, that's a, I might just bet the Yankees because their number will be so high, but it feels like you're already starting. Like if you can find a way to win one in Houston, it's a series. And if not, it's going to be big time trouble. Yeah, listen, obviously it is the very unique turnaround, but this, I said it at the beginning of the Guardians series. It's all on the starting pitching. They're starting pitching delivered in this Guardian series, right?
Starting point is 00:24:54 Garrett Cole had two great games. Nester Cortez on short rest got five innings today. So if their starters are going to have to give you distance and game one, they're probably not going to have a starter that you can fully trust. I think Tyone might be going. I'm not entirely sure, but Cole was the reason they got those games, games one and four wins. So we'll see.
Starting point is 00:25:16 What about the fact that Garrett Cole is kind of a head case? Do you already think he's figured it out mentally? He'll be fine. He'll be fine. Do you see him? He shrugged off the podium. He said that's cute about the rocking the baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Well, they'd already won, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, he also did the two short to Garrett Cole, which is weird because isn't Garrett Cole like six four? I think he's a solid size. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 I don't know if he was doing like an ironic six, like you're too short. Rocking the baby when you're losing the baseball game is a crazy move. It was a crazy move. It was a crazy move, but I don't know. It had, it had the fans fired up. Yeah. Maybe maybe I love that shit. I love shit talking.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I saw Ben Verlander, Justin's brother who covers baseball was actually upset about it, which is nice to know. Like he's a new school baseball media guy knowing that like there's still is some old school curmudgeon in every even new school baseball guy where I got to find his tweet. He was like, he was actually kind of upset, which made me laugh very hard because how would you be upset about that? It's maybe not the worst strategy of all time to do that when you're losing because maybe you'll get lucky and they'll just being the guy behind you in the lineup and
Starting point is 00:26:28 boom, you get another guy on base. Like it might be a good way to start a rally. All right. Here it is. This is wild. This is from Ben Verlander. This is wild. Josh Naylor was rounding the bases, rocking a baby and calling Garrett Cole his son.
Starting point is 00:26:40 I'm a fan of bat flips and celebrating your work. But don't make it disrespectful. This is quite disrespectful. That's awesome. Like that's he's, he's, he's new media and it's like just passing the torch because you need at least one or two baseball writers to just be upset about everything at all times. Yeah. I want, I want like a teenager out there yelling at players like, pull your pants up.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Yeah. Yeah. It's great. It's great. And then the fight ends up one nothing as we're taping this. Yeah. Bryce went yard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:13 So we'll see. We, we mentioned at the beginning, but Max is going to a game this weekend. We'll hopefully get video of that. Him just half screaming, half crying about every play and showing his true filly. So it's going to be great. I'm trying to think what else. Oh, NBA started. Hank, I have a question for you.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Why are the Celtics wearing the Bucks uniforms? They're the new city jerseys for, for Bill Russell. So if you don't like them, then you don't respect the greatest player in the industry. So just watch. One of the greatest civil rights icon as well. I was just asking because it confused me and Nike has ruined like NBA jerseys where every team has 15 jerseys and they all like, they just look totally different. Celtics have, the Celtics are another one of those teams that that's a classic jersey.
Starting point is 00:27:56 Why would you mess with the classic? Celtics have never made an alternate jersey. That's better than their greener whites or their white jerseys. No, because it's a classic jersey. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like we talked about it with maybe the black ones in the Packers. Why, why would you mess with something that is already kind of perfect?
Starting point is 00:28:11 Like the, the Knicks, when the Knicks wear, remember when the Knicks wear their like Halloween jerseys? It's like, why would you mess with something that is beautiful to begin with? Alternate jerseys are for franchises with no history. That's, I'm going to say that. That's a take. But these are, they're Bill Russell specific. The commanders look pretty sick in the black ones.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Yeah. Those are cool, but I'm just saying like. They're one year old. That's true. Yeah, exactly. Hank, we're trying to, we're trying to start a tradition right now. I'm just saying when you like alternate jerseys work for like the Oregon Ducks, and this is now very ironic that I'm doing this take right after I made fun of Ben Verlander, but the
Starting point is 00:28:47 NBA has like, there's so many jerseys now. And I mean, I had this take three years ago when, uh, who was it? It was the Blazers and the Nuggets were playing and the Nuggets were playing with the Blazers jerseys. And it was like, what's going on? Or when the heat made the playoffs and they were wearing the Pacers jerseys. Yeah. It's got to be the same color.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I do sound like I agree though. The fact that this others are wearing green jerseys, but they're not, they're typical green is just kind of, right. They have a perfect jersey. Don't mess with the perfect jersey. Um, okay. Anything else before we do hot seat, cool throne. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Can I change my, my picks for the NBA championship this year? Nope. You're locked in with the nugs. I've been thinking about that all day. You, but it's, you've, you've been a Nuggets guy through and through. I got, I got cut off in traffic by a guy with a Nuggets bumper sticker day. It's just been everywhere around me. My pick that I know I'm going to, I mean, I'm going to lose all credibility as far
Starting point is 00:29:40 as all credit. What do we call a round ball head? Yeah. We're, we're ball is life podcast. Yeah. We lose all credibility. But all my, all my hoop cred, you have to stick with it because you've been saying for like, it feels like five years now that once the Nuggets get healthy.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's two years. It feels like five years. Once the Nuggets get healthy. Watch out. Mike Murray is back and he's looking really good right now. Michael Porter, Jr. Michael Porter, Jr. is back. We've got the big K. Cerrito showing some love on the inside.
Starting point is 00:30:10 It's going to be, it's going to be the Nuggets year. Okay. Also, oh, Draymond green. Did you guys see? Yeah. I had that on my cool drone. It was preposterous. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:30:57 And yeah, I noticed that there was no update. Well, no. So he tweeted, someone tweeted out him, uh, last night and they're like, can we, can we see the standings please? And Jake tweeted out a screenshot. I'll send you guys the link or Jake, if you can send the link, you guys have access to the sheet. He tweeted out a screenshot of an Excel sheet, uh, that showed the stats and he, I've never
Starting point is 00:31:19 seen a person get dunked harder. Like the cells were a disaster. Excel bros left and right. We're just absolutely crushing him, crushing him. Dude, do you even macro? It was, it was one of the worst displays of macro selling I've ever seen in my long history. Excel bros will come at you hard because you have to realize that's like, that's all they have.
Starting point is 00:31:40 So you can't fuck with all what they have. Like that's, and a guy, I will say this for Excel bros, if you've ever watched someone use Excel the way it's supposed to be used, it is actually like mind blowing. Yeah. Because I think everyone in the world, everyone listening to this podcast has applied to a job out of college where they wrote on their resume proficient in Microsoft Excel and 99.9 percent of us are not. We just knew how to open it up and like write a word in it.
Starting point is 00:32:08 The people who actually know how to use it and make all kinds of weird formulas, they are, they're geniuses. So when you, when you fuck with them, they get upset. Yeah. Jim Harbaugh, Jim Harbaugh would have your ass. They're really mad. Yeah. The Microsoft Excel guys, have you ever seen, they have Excel championships?
Starting point is 00:32:24 Yes. Like competitions on TV where you can, it's like Twitch people using Microsoft Excel. It's fascinating. I actually, I talked with this dude who was an executive at Microsoft at my old, old job way back in the day. He was like coming through our office and he was like Microsoft Excel is the most advanced, most beautiful, simplistic, perfect piece of software that humans will ever create. And he sold me.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I was like, yeah, I fucking love Excel. Even though all I know how to do is just up arrow, down arrow, click, click. Yeah. I've used Excel for two things in my life, both of which the templates were built for me prior by someone else. The two things are plugging in our picks and my broadcasting charts. So the system works. You got to use an around feature.
Starting point is 00:33:07 You're not proficient. You got to format to percent. Yeah. The system works. I used it last year and I'm not going to change it. Brother, brother, using some title 15 decimal places, crying, mojie, you know, Jake, Jake, you are like, you know, a mini perfectionist, but I'm, I'm telling you that as your boss, you have to keep, don't change anything.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And every week you need to tweet out the screenshot and only people listening to the people being on the joke. Yes. Love it. Yes. Exactly. More decimals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:42 Just make it. Yeah. Just figure out a way to make it even worse. Okay. Hey, the McCoolthorne's Draymond Green, he, he managed to turn him almost killing one of his teammates in a disgusting move. Pat Beverly talked about it on the pat pat show where it's like, that just doesn't happen. You know, I think it's especially because football, there's fights all the time where
Starting point is 00:34:02 people are like, oh, you know, fight, fight and training camp or whatever, but like teammates don't just punch each other in the face and knock them out cold. And he took that, didn't get a suspension or anything, just, you know, took some time away from the team and then it has a show on TNT where he like made it, he like glorified it basically. He glorified himself, assaulting his teammate and looking so like immature, childish and just bad. It was a masterclass in how to use your children to shield you.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Like that was when he was like, yeah, I was just playing with my kids and then there was a slo-mo of his daughter running into his open arms. Like this is where when I make the joke father or two and people like will joke about it, like this is what people actually do where like they'll hit a controversy and they'll be like, well, I'm a father. So I could never have been a bad person. It's like, no, there's a lot of bad dads out there. That's actually totally like a lot of people who've committed a lot of crimes are fathers,
Starting point is 00:35:00 but I saw it and I was like, just chefs kiss to be like, yeah, I was playing with my kids when the video got leaked and I didn't even notice how the internet reacted because I was just with my kids and I was just enjoying the moment with my kids and here's a slo-mo of me with my kids just to prove that I was with my kids. Also his first explanation behind it was that he dropped a line unironically hurt people hurt people, which I fucking love that line. So he's like, really, I was damaged. And so because I was feeling so much pain, I had to make somebody else feel so much
Starting point is 00:35:35 pain. So when people wave the therapy magic wand and don't get me wrong, I think therapy is great. I've been to therapy before. I think more people should go to therapy. It's a very useful thing that you can do. But when you say like, I can't really be held accountable like Kevin Spacey or whatever for those dozens of people that I raped because I'm going to therapy right now and I'm working
Starting point is 00:35:56 on myself, that sort of thing. You can't play the therapy card and then automatically everything that you've done up to that point is forgiven. Yeah. He did the double whammy, the therapy and father card. What were you going to say Hank to finish it off? Oh, I just, when he was watching, I was like, this is, this is like, like, if Rico Bosco made this tape where he was like, I have the moment where I almost like the lowest moment
Starting point is 00:36:19 of my life on camera. And that's a good thing. It's like, what? But it made me, it made me want to do a remake of Rico. That's what I was thinking. I was watching. I was preposterous. Like imagine if we had done that.
Starting point is 00:36:29 Like imagine if we tried to spin that into a positive like, and I'm just going to take a shot in the dark. I think Draymond Green probably would have preferred that moment to never be leaked. But like he took the moment to like a special on his, on his, on his TV show, like. But that's, that's why Draymond is a sneaky genius for doing all this media stuff. Like all the stuff that he does in games, all I want to know after it's over is like, what is, what is Draymond's actual explanation for why he did that during the game? And then he's got his own podcast so I can go listen to it right away.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Like the world is content for Draymond Green. Everything is content. Also, just this is, this really has nothing to do with any of it, but he has very white teeth and that always helps me believe you. Not too white. If your teeth are too white where it's like Rex Ryan, you're like, what's going on here? He just had like very nice white teeth and I'm like, I kind of believe this guy. That's fair.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's, I, yeah, I don't know. I, it's something about it. So, um, all right, PFT, your hot seat, cool. My hot seat is the Houston Texans Moral Character as an organization. They've, they've had a great couple of years, but it sounds like they're losing their rock. They have fired Jack Easterby. They've, they've unfortunately decided to cut ties and move on from Jack Easterby. If you don't know Jack Easterby, he was part-time character coach, part-time stand-up
Starting point is 00:37:51 comedian, and then full-time Rasputin, I think his official title was executive vice president of football operations. If you go back and you look at Jack Easterby's career, I'm like, I'm like obsessed with this guy because the stand-up stuff that he's done is just, it's groundbreaking material. But if you go back and you look at what he did in New England, he was their character coach there and basically his job was like hang out in the cafeteria and make everybody uncomfortable around him. And, uh, they brought him in like after Aaron Hernandez, all that situation went down to
Starting point is 00:38:19 try to like clean the team up a little bit. And when he applied to work there, he falsified his resume and he pulled an unironic Dwight Shrut. So he was right out of college. He was like an assistant to the director of football operations for the Jaguars. And then by the time he got to the Patriots and applied there, he said that he was the assistant director of football operations to the Jaguars as like a 22 year old. And then he carried that over, got hired by the Texans, became literally like their
Starting point is 00:38:49 Rasputin and convinced Bill O'Brien to trade away Deandre Hopkins, even though he had no background whatsoever as a football guy. He was just kind of like a preacher that hung out. Um, and so now the Houston Texans won't have any character. So that's, that's got to be bad news for them. Yeah. It's, uh, that's a crazy story, especially because this guy like wrecked your entire franchise and, uh, well, I mean to Sean Watson had something to do with that.
Starting point is 00:39:13 But, um, and then to have him get fired, you're like, wait, if he's going to wreck it, like at least keep him around and maybe he could be an accidental genius at some point. Well, the timing is really weird on it because he's already destroyed the franchise. And like the Sean Watson thing, I have a feeling that he was maybe working with the Sean Watson, like with some of the NDA stuff or team. I have no evidence to back this up whatsoever. I just want to be clear about that. But he was, his job was kind of to make Deshaun Watson happy after the whole
Starting point is 00:39:45 Bill O'Brien thing happened and try to convince Deshaun Watson to stick around. So the timing of firing him right now is, it's pretty strange. Oh, and also when they went out to pick their new GM, he was like, oh yeah, any competent general manager is going to want to fire my ass. So I'm going to make sure that the owner hires my buddy from the Patriots, Nick Casero, to come in to be the GM, because maybe he won't fire me immediately. Well, after like a year, he got fired. So go check out Jack Easterby's standup tapes if you haven't already.
Starting point is 00:40:15 When he talks about how like people out in Los Angeles have surfer voices or how people in Houston, Texans wear like giant belt buckles. It's really funny stuff. So, so give it a look. It's awesome. Um, and then my cool throne is, uh, DJ Chark because he just had a baby. So we're putting him in the baby bonanza, or I guess his wife or girlfriend, whoever had had a baby, uh, but he's a father now.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So it's baby Chark this weekend and we're putting that on the barstool sports book and it'll have a baby boost on there for part of my take. So check it out right now. Um, okay. My hot seat is, uh, the rats of New York city. So I don't know if you guys saw this, but there was, um, they, they basically made an ordinance in New York city that they're going to, uh, delay trash pickup. Like they're going to do limited hours for trash pickup.
Starting point is 00:41:10 So people shouldn't leave their trash on the streets unless it's their time because they're trying to fight the rats and they had a press conference. And, uh, this, this reporter, Emma court, uh, quoted some things from the press conference. I want to read some of them for you because it's essentially like, um, George W. Bush being like, you know, we're going to find the terrorists. That's how like serious they're taking this rat situation.
Starting point is 00:41:33 Now watch this drive. One of the quotes, yeah, one of the quotes were there are many rivers that are feeding the sea of rodents in the city. And today we're damning one of them. The biggest swing you can take and cleaning up our streets is shutting down the all night, all you can eat rat buffet. Rats will hate this announcement. The rats don't run this city.
Starting point is 00:41:51 We do. This is not ratatouille. Rats are not our friends. New Yorkers will not have to fear as many rats hiding in late night shadows. It sounds like something that Batman would say when announcing that, like we're taking Bane out. Right. The rats don't run this city.
Starting point is 00:42:07 We do. It's like, um, you have to say that. I think the rats run the city. I think the rats definitely run the city. And also we've seen, yeah, we've seen some of the, the late night rat buffets and they are, there's something else. Why don't you know what, uh, I've seen happen a couple of times around my neighborhood, at least they, they have these things called doxin clubs.
Starting point is 00:42:28 And you know, doxins, the dogs, they're like little short legged things. They're actually bred to kill, to hunt and kill rats. That's what they naturally do. They have dots and clubs that meet up together and then they just let their dogs off leashes and they just sprint around killing rats all night. It's pretty metal. That is pretty metal. I mean, it's, it's in Chicago, it's, it's usually the rats stay in the
Starting point is 00:42:50 alleys cause that's where all the trash is. And the, and then every now and then you'll go in an alley and they'll just be notices everywhere that basically you're like, we just, we just lit off a nuclear bomb in this alley. So be careful. And that's also like very metal where it's like, yeah, we just, we, it was biological warfare in this alley. So, uh, if you drop any food, don't try to eat it for a little bit because
Starting point is 00:43:09 there's a lot of shit going on. But yeah, the rats, the rats, the rats don't run this city. We do. And saying the rats will hate this announcement. One weird trick. Rats hate it. And then my cool throne is, um, all of us because Taco Bell, uh, steal a base, steal a taco's back, which I just, I feel like it's always back,
Starting point is 00:43:31 but it's back. They made the announcement. So now we get a free taco when someone steals a base in the world. It's the best promo. It's always fun. That's promo going. It really is. It really is.
Starting point is 00:43:40 We should, we should do steal a base, get a free subscription to part of my take, hit a Homer, hit a Dinger, get a, maybe if, if there's a grand slam in the world series, we'll give away a free subscription to part of my take. And I'm going to match that. Okay. So everyone root for a grand slam in the, uh, world series and, and we will then, uh, drop the links for everyone to subscribe for free. That's beautiful.
Starting point is 00:44:07 Should we do a grand slam? Uh, six, three round out. We could, we could do the podcast in YouTube and maybe if there's two. I don't think, you know, now we're sounding kind of thirsty. I feel like we do, we'll give away a YouTube subscription. No, but I'm saying like, yeah, we don't want to give everything away. Let's, let's give away a YouTube subscription. If there's a balk.
Starting point is 00:44:28 Okay. A balk or grand slam. Okay. A balk or grand slam free YouTube subscription to part of my take. That's where we're not going to be able to afford this. No. You're taking away the base pretty much. You're reducing my salary to two apes per episode.
Starting point is 00:44:43 Yeah. We might have to fire Billy. So don't subscribe. Otherwise we might have to Billy, your hot seat, cool throne. That was a joke, Billy. I love you. I can hear you guys. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:00 You didn't even hear the joke. My hot seat is Tom Brady. He compared playing in the NFL, like deploying overseas and fighting a war because you don't see your family. I, and a lot of people are calling him out for that, saying it's pretty BS. Yeah. A lot of, a lot of great quarterbacks. Steel Valor.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Can I, so I was going to say this for my fire fest, but it is, I have to say it now, I was in Chicago on Monday. Hank and I went to look at offices and so I flew in, flew, flew back. So it was a long day. I was coming back. I was in O'Hare and I was sitting by the gate and, uh, because there was no seats, it was packed and they made the announcement, like military service members can please board the plane.
Starting point is 00:45:46 So I got up because I was like, Oh, I, I got to get up cause I got to get ready to go in like when they start actually boarding people. So I got up to get out of the way cause I was kind of in the gateway and a person walked by and was like, thank you for your service. And it was thrilling. It was thrilling cause they thought I was getting up to go on the plane. And I was just like, this, I get why Billy steals valor every day. Like it was awkward because AWL has come up to me and say, thank you.
Starting point is 00:46:10 And it's like, what do I say? Like, no, stop. No, I said, I said, you're welcome. And it felt great. And I like, I, I had this moment where I was like, almost like zapped into your life and I was like, I get, I understand why Billy wears the camo and wears the fake purple metal and all that stuff. Like it makes sense to me now.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Well, he might have also been thanking you for your service as a podcaster, which is, I get that a lot. I've never stolen valor, but people do see me and they're like, you know what? You go behind a microphone every day and you speak hard truths. Thank you, sir. You know, the first amendment without the first amendment, you don't have the second. So, and don't get me started on the third with quartering soldiers.
Starting point is 00:46:48 But if somebody says to me, thank you for my services as a podcaster, it's, um, it's almost like an everyday thing for me right now. And I'm, I'm comfortable with saying you're welcome. Yeah. Uh, Billy, your cool throne. My cool throne is humans. If you've been seeing the news recently, humans have been taking tons of W's against bears and just dishing out bears L's.
Starting point is 00:47:07 There was a video of a dude fighting a bear and throwing him off a cliff. And then there was another video. There was another story of two Wyoming wrestlers beating the bear off and beating the shit out of a bear and getting them away from him and surviving a grizzly attack. That feels not cool. Yeah. So we're like a Buzzfeed Steve Irwin right now.
Starting point is 00:47:27 We're up to on bears. Yeah. Watch this. Why is that cool to take a bear? No, they didn't kill them. They just fought them off. Look at this thing. Talk about a major fail.
Starting point is 00:47:37 No, but one of them threw him off a cliff. Yeah. Because the bear tried to attack him. Well, yeah, but that guy was probably in the bear's home. No, no, no, the bear, we're in the bear's like, if you haven't seen this video, I posted it to my Twitter, this guy, a bear comes out of nowhere and tries to attack him and then he falls off the cliff and then he hits the bear that's trying to attack him.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I mean, it's all on GoPro. Wait, but again, the bear didn't come out of nowhere. He came out of his house. Also, yeah, what was the guy wearing? Yeah. I mean, but it's just humans are actually is a female bear, is a female bear and she had her bear cubs with her. So she thought that the human was trying to take her cubs away.
Starting point is 00:48:20 That is true. She was just defending herself. We're up. I just always as a principal and this is someone who probably because I never lost her life and her kids are now well, the bears, the bears not actually dead. W the bears not dead. It just ran away, just ran away. It's just a sick video.
Starting point is 00:48:36 I actually think what's happening right now is actually it's a it's a major dub for bears because we're talking about bears. We're watching all their content right now and we're like, oh, fuck, I would, I would shit myself if a bear came at me like that in the woods. It's making us as humans more fearful of them when in reality, we probably shouldn't be that afraid of them, but it's putting out like fear porn propaganda on behalf of the bears. So I say that's a that's a major win for the bears.
Starting point is 00:49:00 I'm also, you know, I'm a city guy and I don't really go deep into nature, but I always root for the animals. Always. I just always root for the animals. She doesn't like it. I root it for Harambe. Oh, this is a crazy video. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:16 You are kind of like, that's your second animal video with millions of views. I just get them. I get them first and I credit them when I find where they came from. Yeah. Cause I was going to say, you don't get them first, you find them off Reddit first, you got to be part of the right Reddit and WhatsApp group chats. Oh my God. I don't want to know what the what's that group chats.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I don't want to know what the wrong WhatsApp group chats look like. Um, okay. Jake, finish this off and then we'll get to Andy's state. My hot seat is James Corden. Uh, yeah, he was briefly banned from part of my channel. He was briefly banned by New York City's Balthazar, but the real story is he's permanently banned from this show, right? I, yeah, he's, he's banned from the show.
Starting point is 00:50:05 No, Ben, Hank. Now fuck him. You know what, Hank, you're banned too. Think about the views. That would be fine. He can, he can, he can come on part of my take, but we, he has to be in person and Billy has to serve him a seven course meal while he's doing interviewed. And they all have to be made by Billy and just, just completely fucked up.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And, and if he complains one time, I'm going to kick him in his teeth. Reports say he was the most abusive customer at the restaurant. Well, in this guy, um, uh, quite, quite a situation he got himself in because he apparently, uh, has defended, uh, Woody. What's the, what's a Woody Allen? What's a Woody Allen? Woody Allen. He was friends with, with, with Jizzy Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:50:51 He was friends with Jeffrey Epstein. So he made this like public posts and everyone was like, Hey, wait, you're not a good guy. And then he immediately was like, James Corden called me and apologized. We're good. It's like the, uh, the shrimp toast crunch guy or bean dad. Dude, how about emu girl? Did you see she got canceled?
Starting point is 00:51:07 I didn't see that. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, cause all her birds died. All her birds died. She apparently like is part of like the, she's going to start another pandemic and I heard people were saying that she's racist. I couldn't find the racist stuff, but it was just the fact that people are
Starting point is 00:51:25 still heartbroken when some random person goes viral and then we find out they're a bad person. It's that's like internet 1.0. That's been happening for so long now. You can't get it. You can't fall in love with these people. Wait, is Emmanuel, is, is he okay? Or did he die?
Starting point is 00:51:40 I think he's racist. I think he's life-supporting 99% of the birds died. He might be dead. No, I saw you drink water. Are the emus racist? I had a few days yesterday. Oh, so you're following this story. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I like the bird girl. Is she racist? I, I didn't know that I did not see that. I couldn't, it also could have been like people just said she was racist and then no one was more like people like just hate her. Right. I didn't know because I couldn't find the racism. So I was like, what's going on here?
Starting point is 00:52:12 I'm looking it up right now. They're calling her the racist emu girl. Yeah. Right. That's, yeah. That's, I feel like you're going to have to be more specific than that. I couldn't figure out why. Oh man.
Starting point is 00:52:25 All right. Jake, you're a microphone throw girls racist and that her kissing Emmanuel is a serious public health issue. Yeah, but I can't find where she was racist. So, oh wait. Okay. So 2012, she's got some posts. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:41 I'm going to read, I'm going to read some of her posts. Just out loud for the first time. Don't I shouldn't? No, yeah. You dare me to? No, I do it. Like no filter. Oh, I see him to.
Starting point is 00:52:54 No, don't. I'm see. I'm looking at them now too. Yes. Okay. Should I do it? Shorbo though. Shorbo, Shorbo, Shorbo, Shorbo.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Shorbo just hit a bomb. Fucking tanked it. It was a beast of a bomb. Suck. Suck. I love that. She just got so red. Give us a play by play right now.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I don't know what else to say. It was, he just hit an upper, upper decker. You know what a, you know what a Shorbo plays. Give us your filly. It's the best. I know what a fucking Shorbo is. Woof. Damn, that's a hammer time.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I put, I put a bet on, on, on Harper to go yard, Swarber to go yard, and then I've got Castellanos to go yard. I'm trying to get the big three right now. That would be crazy. You got two down. Wait. Oh yeah. I was about to read this one, but that one's got the N word in it too.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Yeah. No, there's, all right. So I'm, I know I, I disavowed emu girl. I hope her bird dies. Uh, my cool throne is the inside the NBA crew. They all sign longterm extensions. So that fantastic pregame show will be with us for the foreseeable future. That's great.
Starting point is 00:53:57 I heard that Charles Barkley is, is getting like a hundred million dollar contract right now from Turner or something like that. Masterful use of Saudi Arabia as being the, the big money in the room. Um, that's, that's how you do it right there for sir Charles. Just be like, I'll take money from anybody and then get a massive, massive raise when he returns back to TNT. That's a pregame show with high approval rating. If you're looking for an NBA podcast with high approval rating,
Starting point is 00:54:22 check out the Pat Bev pot episode one drop today. Yeah. Love it. Love it. Um, okay. Good hot seed, cool thrones, everyone. Let's do, um, Andy Staples and Joe Burrow. It's brought to you by our friends across country mortgage.
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Starting point is 00:55:40 You can hear him on serious XM. It is Andy Staples. We're here to talk some college football. What a season it has been. Uh, what a Saturday it was. So let's start there. I have a couple of questions on the Tennessee Alabama game, but I want to, I think you'd probably do this to Andy sometimes
Starting point is 00:55:57 where a big game happens and you talk about the losers more than the winners. So I don't want to fall into that trap and let's talk about Tennessee. Is Tennessee all the way back? And if even if they lose to Georgia, are they still all the way back? Cause I want them to be back. It's fun to have Tennessee back. This is the best Tennessee team since the two you led to a national title. Yep.
Starting point is 00:56:18 For sure. But are they all the way back? I don't know that yet. They, they roped Alabama into playing their style of game, which Alabama almost played as well as them in one of the most intense environments you'll ever see. So I don't know that I'm ready to crown Tennessee quite yet, but I will say I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:37 There's a lot of defenses in the country. They're going to be able to stop them. I think you're going to have to beat them in a shootout. That's, that's what's interesting to me as you go forward. Like, you know, cause the, in a couple of weeks they play Kentucky. Like Kentucky just shut down Mississippi state. Could they slow down Tennessee enough? I don't know if they can.
Starting point is 00:56:57 I don't know. And Georgia may be able to, but I, I could see Georgia beating them by outscoring, you know, cause Georgia has a bunch of different ways to beat you offensively, but can Tennessee compete with anybody in the country right now? Yeah. They absolutely can. Could, could they compete for the SEC title?
Starting point is 00:57:14 Yes. They could beat Georgia. They could go to the SEC title game or if you really want to make non-SEC people's heads explode, you can talk about what if they lose close to Georgia, Georgia, Alabama play a classic SEC championship game and Tennessee slips in into the playoff that way. I, it's possible that could happen. They've got to figure out how to make sure they keep winning.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I mean, it's, it's hard because these are guys that have not had a ton of success in their careers. So they've got to learn how to deal with this level of success. Now playing UT Martin this week, I think helps them. So if they had to play Kentucky this week, I would be putting my life savings on Kentucky to cover. Yeah. Cause it's the ultimate letdown spot, but right now I, I think they're
Starting point is 00:57:58 in a good spot. Yeah. Do we know if their defense is bad? Do we officially know that because the style of play that their office plays, their defense is exhausted because they get on the field so much. So I don't think we really have a barometer like whether or not just these defenses is good enough to, to get them that far. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:17 So my alma mater, Florida, their defense bordering on bad and you saw what LSU did to them last weekend. Well, Tennessee's defense shut down LSU's offense. So it may not be that Tennessee's defense is bad. It may be that Tennessee's defense is not the best when playing as the Heisman Trophy winner and his Mary band of five stars, which is what they had to deal with with Alabama. Now I realized this is not the Alabama receiving core that we've seen
Starting point is 00:58:44 over the past few years is still a really good offense. Jameer Gibbs is an amazing tailback. They've got great players all over the field. So Tennessee did enough to like when you say forcing them to kick a 50 yard field goal is the highlight of your day defensively. Yeah, that was enough. You did enough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah. It's, um, it is interesting. I would actually say the Florida's defense is bad and LSU owns Florida. It's pretty shocking. I got to live here. Big cat. I'm just saying something like that. People are going to be coming at me in the grocery store.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah, they're bad. You can, you can, I'll say it for you. Um, so Alabama, I'm so interested. It's, it's crazy how when Alabama stumbles, it's just fascinating to just see how they come back, how Saban reacts because they've just been on top for so long. My question though is, is this feel like Alabama is not, they're not fading. They're still, you know, probably going to college football playoff, but they
Starting point is 00:59:45 struggled against Texas. They struggled against Texas. A&M. You can go back to last year. They lost the Texas A&M. They struggled against LSU. Like they're, there have been signs where they are not the, they struggled against your Florida gators.
Starting point is 00:59:58 There have been signs that they are not the Alabama that just rolls people. And even if they slip up once here or there, they, they come back and they just keep rolling people. Are you, can we do the like, Hey, is, is Saban losing the fastball? Is he throwing 92 and not 99 now? Can I put my Dan Wolken hat on and, and, and say the Alabama dynasty is that no, I will not say that. Like every time somebody says the Alabama dynasty is dead, another five
Starting point is 01:00:24 star recruit calls Nick Saban is like, can I come? Can I come? Yeah. But what I do think has happened. I blame Kirby smart for a lot of it. Kirby smart's been at Georgia now since 2016. And every year he's been there, he sheared off a few guys that would have signed with Alabama before Kirby smart was at Georgia.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And so you've got that. You had Jimbo signing guys that Alabama wanted last year at Texas A&M, you have Tennessee now getting big into the NIL game, getting looks from recruits they hadn't been, you had Florida hiring Billy Napier with the express purpose of get guys that Kirby smart and Nick Saban want. And so if you sign 20 of those guys a year instead of 25 of the guys that you absolutely want the most, your depth suffers. Yeah, that happens.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And that's what Alabama was able to just lure it over everybody for the longest time is if they had somebody hurt, if they had somebody who wasn't playing particularly well, they just plug in the next one. And it's another potential first rounder. Well, they're still that way in most places, but there's some positions now where they're not as perfect as they have been and they're susceptible to the same kind of depth issues that normal teams are at certain places. And so if you catch them on the right day, you can beat them.
Starting point is 01:01:46 That said, I'm with you. I think they went out and I don't put it past Nick Saban to have a perfect game plan for an SEC championship game and they go to the playoff anyway. So let's have the discussion because I love that narrative of like when is Alabama's dynasty officially over? When would it be officially over? Would it be if they, if they don't win three championships in a row is like three consecutive years without a national title and Nick Saban is washed.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Is that what we're going to say? I think that might be what we're going to say. I'll tell you when it is. We'll know when Nick Saban retires because he told me this was 2017. So this is the year they win the national title. They, they plug into it in half time in the national title game. So this was the week of whatever FCS team they're playing before Auburn. And, and I'm in his office and I'm asking him all these big picture
Starting point is 01:02:35 questions because I'm, I was working for SI and I was writing, you know, pre-writing the bulk of the national title game story. Cause you have to have that sucker in before the game starts for the most part. And I'd asked him about, you know, all the different changes in the sport and he basically said, I will leave before I let it go down. Like, and the implication of that is I will know before any of you idiots do. If this is going downhill and I will make sure that they, that I give Alabama a chance to put somebody in who'll, who'll get it back to where it needs to be.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Now Nick Saban's idea of where it needs to be and everybody else is probably a very different place, but my guess is he understands better than everybody else. That's why you saw that stuff with Jimbo in the, in the off season. Like, you know, he's talking about the NIL stuff. It's not so much that he's worried about, Oh, they're, they're quote unquote cheating, which they're not, uh, cause there are no rules anymore, which is the best way college football should be. But he's saying, I can't make more rich people in Alabama.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Right. Texas will always have more rich people than Alabama. Tennessee will probably have a similar number of rich people as Alabama, but they don't have an Auburn. And that's the thing that, that he's thinking about. He's thinking ahead to, okay, how do I dominate this new world? Because things are changing around me. And there's some, there's some things that probably are out of my control.
Starting point is 01:04:08 So I got to work, work around them. So Nick Saban to Yukon is what you're saying. Yeah. The wealth up there. Yeah. Done. Yeah. No.
Starting point is 01:04:15 And I, I do not think Alabama is done. I just, it's also the bar that Nick Saban has set there where you have the 2020 Alabama team and I know it's a COVID year, but that team was so goddamn good and they just rolled over everyone. Like the closest game they played was against Florida in the SEC championship game and I, I, I maybe I'm misremembering it, but I never at any point was like, Florida's going to win this game. It was like, can Florida cover this?
Starting point is 01:04:40 It was a five point game, but Florida would get within like five and then Alabama was for another touchdown. Right. And that was, that was their closest game. And now they've played in the last two years, a half a dozen games where it's actually been, Hey, this is kind of weird, whether it be an actual loss or a game that they, they skirt by, you're like, Oh, this is a close game. They might actually be in trouble.
Starting point is 01:05:01 Um, I want to move to the pack 12 real quick. It's, it's a perfect pack 12 season where like it's actually a better than normal patch 12 season because I think they're actually are good teams, but they all just cannibalize each other. So we'll end up with no pack 12 participant. My question though is, do you think when Lincoln Riley went to USC, um, did anyone tell him like, Hey, I know that, uh, you don't want to be in the SEC, but having to play at Utah is like the worst thing in the world.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Like you're just never going to win there. If it gets dark, like it was watching that game. It was essentially like Utah sucked and then the sun went down and Utah came alive. Do you think anyone let him know and in on that little dirty secret that they're playing against Kyle Whittingham at night in Utah is, is probably the toughest place in the country to play. It nobody ever tells anybody that secret.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And I've been to night games at Utah. They're incredible. The, the mighty Utah student section is loud. That stadium is the, is the perfect size. They're right on top of you. You know, you're looking at that you in the mountain. It's car, you know, rocks in the mountain. Like it's not a fun place to play at all.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And the, the issues that Lincoln Riley teams had at Oklahoma seem to be the same as Lincoln Riley's USC team. Like they, they don't dominate you upfront and they don't cover very well. And so I think you're going to have a problem when you play a UCLA this year. If you wind up playing an organ in the, in the Pac-12 title game, that's a problem too. Now, can they fix that? Sure.
Starting point is 01:06:35 They, they can get a pretty good level of recruit along the line of scrimmage that maybe didn't want to come to Oklahoma when they were in the big 12. I think, I actually think once Oklahoma's in the SEC, that level of player will want to go to Oklahoma too. But that's, they're the same issues wise that they were at Oklahoma. And we'll see if they, they figure that part out. That, that may be an off season figure it out kind of situation because I don't know there's as much you can do about it right now.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Who do you have coming out of the Pac-12? Like if you had to pick right now, and it's too bad because I think even if, if UCLA is the only hope at this point to run the table and cause Oregon could run the table, but everyone will just point to the week one game against Georgia and be like, no, thanks. We don't want that again. So do you, do you think it's going to be just everyone cannibalizing each other? I mean, I know UCLA plays Oregon this weekend, but is it, is it the Pac-12 is
Starting point is 01:07:29 pretty much on the outside looking in yet again? I'm not giving up on them yet, but the, yes, that Georgia loss for Oregon just hangs over the whole league and it sucks that, that anybody else might get smeared with that brush. But I think if UCLA runs the table, they got a shot. I think a one loss UCLA might have a shot as well. And I'm curious right now. I'm still leaning Oregon, but if UCLA goes in there and rams the
Starting point is 01:07:57 ball down their throat, like they have everybody else, I'm, I'm probably all in on the Bruins at that point because I like the way they play. I, I think they, they run, they run the ball so well at Charbonne is, is just a beast, especially like Charbonne will drag guys for three, four yards and DTR Dorian Thompson, Rob's their quarterback. He can run really well, but then when, when he's running in Charbonne is running well, it opens up the pass game. You got, you got Bobo, Jake Bobo, the transfer from Duke who's been fantastic.
Starting point is 01:08:28 So I really like what UCLA has become and I'll admit, I was surprised. I didn't know if Chip Kelly was ever going to be able to get it back there. It'll be so awesome if Chip Kelly crashes the party. Like after it felt like he was, you know, had a few years at UCLA where everyone just kind of forgot about it. It was good. It was trending towards, Oh, they'll just have to fire Chip Kelly in a couple of years because it, they never really broke through.
Starting point is 01:08:51 And now he could break through this year. It's fun. Oh yeah. And, and the thing with Chip Kelly was, you know, he, he created a paradigm shift in the sport. Like he took advantage of a change in the clock rules to create an offense that nobody knew what to do with. And that was my big question with him going to UCLA, coming back from the NFL
Starting point is 01:09:09 was can you build in a more standard way? Because you had this innovation that no one could deal with by the time you got back, everybody had caught up with it. And it reminds me a little bit of Steve Spurrier because Steve Spurrier in the nineties had the fun and gun and nobody knew what to do with it in the SEC because it was like a three yards in a cloud of dust league. Well, they started hiring defensive coaches specifically to stop it. He gets back to the SEC at South Carolina in 2005, tries to run the fun
Starting point is 01:09:37 and gun and they can't move the ball at all. And so what he did is he borrowed Appalachian state's offense. And when they had those really good teams at South Carolina, they were running Appalachian state's offense. Well, what you've seen with Chip Kelly is he's evolved. He's not worried about running at light speed anymore because that worked then that's not what necessarily works now. But what, what he's done is created a pretty good ground and pound
Starting point is 01:10:02 offense that the rest of his league doesn't seem ready for. Yeah. Can we talk jobs real quick? I love talking jobs just in general. So we don't talk about another man's job, but Brian Harson probably gone. Right. These guys have families. We don't want to, we don't want to say anything bad about them.
Starting point is 01:10:20 They're probably going to get there's nothing you can say that some internet people didn't say about his family that wasn't true and in the off season. So now he's going to get 12 million bucks to not work. It's a pretty good deal. No offset, by the way, next job doesn't even, doesn't even count against it. So I love it. It's, it's a weird situation at Auburn. Cause like the team has not quit on him.
Starting point is 01:10:43 So I think that's why he hasn't been fired yet, but clearly he will not be the coach at Auburn in 2023 that the problem for Harson and while I disagree with the methodology of the coup attempt, cause it was, it was pretty gross what some of the folks tried to do to him this past off season and Auburn trying to find dirt so they could fire him for free. But the reason they, they did it is because his first year at Auburn, they looked at his recruiting and they're like, did you go after anybody that Nick Saban and Kirby smart wanted?
Starting point is 01:11:13 Did you even try? And the answer was no. He thought, he really thought he could out evaluate Nick Saban and Kirby smart, not realizing that that yeah, they get the best players, but they're also better at evaluating than most people too. So that was the, the biggest problem and it was never going to work there. So now you have this awkward dance where they haven't hired an AD yet. Eventually they'll, they'll make the move and he will get his money and
Starting point is 01:11:38 then we'll, we'll see a whole new circus around Auburn as they try to hire another coach. Yeah, we were joking about Matt rule and how Matt rule might have to take a step back in the next program that he goes to. So I suggested Auburn as being like one of those second or third level people got very mad at me about, about that. But I feel like Auburn is, it's a weird situation where it's a top job, but it also kind of sucks because you're not Alabama.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Okay. So you're not just, you're not Alabama. Your two biggest traditional rivals are Alabama and Georgia, which are probably the top two of the top three teams in the sport right now. And they get the best players. They're the top two recruiting teams in the sport. So you're going to be judged against them, but here's the thing. And this is where I look at it differently.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Cause my dream job is to be a fired SCC coach. The problem is I'm never going to be good enough to be a hired SCC coach, but if you can get past that, then you're in good shape because nobody gives out buyouts like Auburn. Yeah. Custom house, I got $21 million. Brian harsh is going to get 12 million bucks. So I say, take the Auburn job, deal all the crap and you're going to be
Starting point is 01:12:50 able to buy your own Island. Yeah. Who doesn't sign up for that? Yeah. It's pretty good. That's the difference of mentality though, like because somebody that has a normal everyday person's mentality would never get good enough at coaching college football to be that successful.
Starting point is 01:13:05 Yeah, it's a catch 22. So if you're Matt rule and you're looking at, at the potential open jobs in college football, first of all, you think Matt rule could just come back and take over like a solid top tier program right now. Would they be lucky to have him or is he going to have to like maybe go back a couple of steps and work his way back up? No, I think that rule can get a pretty good job right now. And I think would do a very good job.
Starting point is 01:13:28 You look at the, what, what, what he did at Baylor, which was in a really bad place when he got there, but he'd not worked in Texas before. He did a great job of hiring people who could kind of guide him there and help him recruit there and understand the landscape there. One of them was, was a guy named Joey, Joey McGuire, who was a long time high school coach in Texas, who was so good at Baylor that he became the head coach of Texas tech and that's what he is now. But rule smart enough to know that you have to put those people like.
Starting point is 01:13:57 Harsen went to Auburn, but didn't want to do that. You know, rule would, would do that. I don't think rule take Auburn or really be in the mix for that. If I had to guess rule might want like a Wisconsin type job, but it looks like, like Jim Leonard, like, I think big cat, you know, this better than I do, but I think the timing of the firing of Paul Christ was to give Jim Leonard enough runway so that they could give him the job. So that would be the one I'd look at for rule.
Starting point is 01:14:24 My guess is he does TV and then waits this cycle out and sees what's available next cycle because unlike Brian Harsen at Auburn, Matt rule did have an offset in his contract to Carolina. So whatever he makes in his next job comes out of the buyout. So he's making the same amount of money either way. So I just go talk on ESPN for a year, chill and then come back refreshed, rejuvenated at a job that you, you like a lot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:51 And it's also for, for me, it's Matt rules a fantastic college coach. I think even Baylor, what he did at Baylor, but what he did at temple, he had temple to 10 wins. Like that's, that's insane. I don't care where they played getting temple to 10 wins. Like that doesn't just happen. Like the, the manifesto works in college. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:07 Right. Pepsie tastes like Pepsi a hundred percent of the time doesn't work. Yes, but it's, it's one of those things that he got, the way he got fired in Carolina, the stink on him from how bad they were. It can all be erased by taking a year off and doing media. And then you can get the real like, cause I think you can get any job he wants right now, but he'd probably have to make some concessions and not, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:29 It's not the perfect fit for him. Whereas he waits a year and it's, it's everyone's going to be like, whoa, remember Matt rule? Like the temple in Baylor years outweigh the Carolina Panther years. He'll also be beloved on TV. Unlike most head coaches at that level, he can have a normal human conversation. Right.
Starting point is 01:15:46 And that makes you a star in TV. Yes. That's true. So all right. So kind of a similar situation, even though it might, might not appear this way from the, from the outside looking in, uh, what, what happens with Penn State and James Franklin? Because James Franklin is a case where he's at a school where the
Starting point is 01:16:07 expectations don't meet the reality. And you could, you could basically look at it one of two ways. You could say James Franklin isn't competing with Michigan and Ohio State anymore. He won 11 games a couple of times, but it was a while ago. Or you could say Michigan, Ohio State are just that much better. So we should just be happy that, uh, we're winning nine, 10 games and be good with that.
Starting point is 01:16:29 So where, where do you think that like, how do you think that all unfolds and where, where the Penn State fan base is sitting right now? The Penn State fan base is not happy. Not happy. James Franklin did this new contract and his, his salary is guaranteed 85% for the life of the contract. So they are not firing him anytime soon. It's, it's not Jimbo Fisher ironclad, but it's close enough.
Starting point is 01:16:52 So nothing's happening to James Franklin. Now I will say, I kind of, I kind of split the difference there because the way he's recruited, it feels like next year could be one of those years for them. So where, where they really are competitive with Michigan and Ohio State, I'm curious what they do going forward this season. Do they, do they go with Drew Aller, the freshman at quarterback and just see where his ceiling is?
Starting point is 01:17:17 Do they try to get him ready so that when he takes over next year and has, you know, talent around him that, that is more comparable to Michigan and Ohio State, is he ready? Or do they stay with Sean Clifford for the rest this year and then figure out that all out in the off season? I think that's the more interesting question going forward and I kind of want to see how they play Ohio State. It's weird because that game against Michigan tracked with some of those
Starting point is 01:17:43 games during a very good period for Penn State. You know, 2016 to 2018, they had really good teams that went to Michigan and got smashed. 2016, they beat Ohio State. 2018, they played them tough. My guess, they play Ohio State tough again and everybody's like, well, you know, they were kind of close there. So it's, I guess it's all right.
Starting point is 01:18:05 But no, they're not thrilled with James Franklin right now. I think they, they need to see some progress through the end of this year and then there is hope just judging by the way the recruiting is gone that next year will be a little bit different. And it's so funny because in college football, you can have a loss that is okay with, you know, it's never okay for a lot of fan bases to lose, but the non-competitive losses in Michigan, just that was, I had the game very wrong.
Starting point is 01:18:33 They absolutely bullied them like as, as, as severe as you can bully a team, that's what Michigan did to Penn State. And when it happens like that, it just something about it feels different where you're like, whoa, we don't, we don't have a chance against these guys. That looked like a Michigan versus Rutgers, not a Michigan versus Penn State. And that's when people are like, that loss is different than if Penn State went into Ann Arbor and lost by three in a thriller.
Starting point is 01:18:59 I agree completely. And it was weird that Penn State was, was ahead in that game, 1716. It was mostly because they played some good red zone defense and kept Michigan out of the end zone early. But I, on the podcast, we had a bet on that game and I had taken Penn State plus seven feeling pretty good about it. I had to eat 30 bucks worth of Taco Bell on my show because of that. Although I will say now, Sharon Moore, the online coach at Michigan,
Starting point is 01:19:27 offensive coordinator who I am happy to give a lot of credit for this offensive renaissance at Michigan. I kind of want to hug him because I'd never had those little Cinnabon things. Yeah, they're so good. Oh my God. Taco Bell is great. Andy, have you ever had Taco Bell breakfast? I have not.
Starting point is 01:19:43 I was looking at that. I'm thinking I might have to con my co-host into another bet involving Taco Bell just to do that. Take Rutgers against Michigan. Be like, yeah, you know what? I like the Scarlet Knights at home in Piscataway. Let's let's run it back. Let's go double or nothing.
Starting point is 01:19:57 $60 worth and then get like 10 breakfast crunch wraps with the sausage. It will change your life. Those are the Cinnabon treats and miss by the way, Michigan. I don't know if you grew this, but I, so I had them wrong to begin the year because I, you know, they played absolutely no one. Maryland was competitive with them and I was like, that's weird. Like Maryland, you know, they're, they're better than the average Maryland, but still Michigan should be able to beat Maryland.
Starting point is 01:20:23 I'm now completely flipping. I think they absolutely can beat Ohio State again because of the style they play and they just play that bully ball where if they're running the ball and they're doing it and, and I love a coach like Jim Harbaugh, who's like, if this is working, we're not stopping. We don't care if we never throw the ball winning is the most important thing. I, I'm so excited for that game now. Cause I thought all year it's going to be Ohio State's revenge.
Starting point is 01:20:48 They're going to blow them out everything. Now it's like I, Michigan might still be those guys. Yeah. That style travels like, yeah, doesn't matter if you're having a good day, bad day, home road, that works pretty much everywhere. And you know, I think it's a, it's a better version of the one from last year. Now they don't have the same elite pass rushers they had on the other side of the ball, which is what allowed them to really get after CJ Stroud.
Starting point is 01:21:13 I love the interior of Michigan's defensive line this year, but that offense, I think is more dangerous because of JJ McCarthy and I, I love the way Harbaugh handled that situation at the beginning of the year. He had what amounted to an NFL preseason in his non-conference schedule and he used it like one. He said, I'm going to give Kate McNamara the first game. I'm going to give JJ McCarthy the second game and we'll make a decision based on that.
Starting point is 01:21:36 The timing of that was, was intentional. Kate McCarty, Kate McNamara is coming off leading into a big 10 title, but you know, you want to start JJ McCarthy. And I know Jim Harbaugh said it was biblical wisdom of Solomon who could have known. No, I think he knew. Cade starts. He's, he's the opening day starter after leading to a big 10 title.
Starting point is 01:21:57 JJ comes in, you're like, Oh, this is different. And then everybody kind of accepts the reality and JJ has not had to throw them to a win yet. I thought what he said on Saturday after the game was perfect. He's like, look, if we're going to average like 7.6 yards a carry, I'm happy to be along for the ride, but I do think there may come a point where he has to, and I think he's capable of it. Yeah, I think that's what makes them a little more interesting in a game
Starting point is 01:22:23 against a better Ohio State. Like this Ohio State defense is a lot better than the one they played last year, Jim Knowles, the DC they hired this year, worth every penny. So they're going to need him if they want to beat Ohio State this time. Yeah, you were saying that the, the style of football travels. I think it travels, it gets better over the course of the year as it gets colder outside as weather starts to become an actual thing that they have to deal with.
Starting point is 01:22:46 But then once they get, once you get into the playoffs, I think they're in like Arizona and then the college Arizona Atlanta college football Mecca of Los Angeles for the championship game. So that'll be nice. And so that just spells disaster if Michigan does get into the playoff. Yeah. I still don't know if they're necessarily equipped to deal with, with who they might see their, if they had to play Georgia again,
Starting point is 01:23:07 if they had to play Alabama, but I think they're getting closer. And that's progress. Two years ago, we were ready to run off Harbaugh and we're like, he's lost it. There's no chance. They're, they're done for. Uh, I, I think they've gotten better each of the past two years. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Yeah. Not, not us. We always had us back. I like this style of football too. It's like the nineties are back. We're going to just run the ball down your throat and there's our, we got an offensive line built out of like feral hogs and there's nothing that you're going to be able to do to stop it.
Starting point is 01:23:36 It's, it's fun to watch when all you see is just like, you know, electric passing attacks everywhere else, having variety is good. I think, um, I want to talk about, about Texas real quick. The next three games, pretty tough games. How, how many of those games do you think Texas has to win in order for the fan base to feel like real good, like real good about the direction they're heading in going into next year. For the fan base to feel good, they need to win three of them.
Starting point is 01:24:01 Realistically, I think two would do. This is one that that Iowa state game. Yeah. As frustrating as that probably was for Texas fans, be happy. That represents progress because they should have lost that game. And I think in the path over the past 10 years, that's a game they would have lost. So the fact that they're sitting there at five and two right now,
Starting point is 01:24:22 they lost again, they should have against Texas tech, but then they got in a situation again against Iowa state where they should have lost, but they didn't. And I think that that's progress, but Oklahoma state, K state, both of those on the road, both incredibly tough places to play. If you've never been to a game at Boone's pick and stadium or Bill Snyder family stadium, like if, if your team happens to be going there at a conference and you're like, I don't know if I want to make
Starting point is 01:24:47 it, no, make the trip. I'm telling you right now, those are great places to watch a game. If they can be two and one in this stretch. I'm, I'm ready to start thinking maybe that they could be back next year, because I look at the young offensive linemen they brought in that they've had to plug in and play. Those guys are getting better and they were pretty good to start with. I can't even imagine second year that leap.
Starting point is 01:25:15 This is starting to look like a team that actually meets its recruiting ranking at some point. And that's just not what Texas has been. They've been a team that they would bring in these guys that were highly tired of recruits and then none of them would make it to the NFL. And they would just kind of, you know, they'd have a decent game against a good team every once in a while or maybe surprise Oklahoma, but then they'd lose to Iowa state or they'd lose to TCU.
Starting point is 01:25:40 They feel different now, but they got to prove it. They got to prove it in this stretch. And look, let's say they beat Oklahoma state and K state and lose to TCU. I don't think there's any shame in that. TCU is really good this year, but this is the step they need to take. Like two and one in this stretch would show me they're taking the steps they need to be in a position next year to maybe compete for the big 12 title. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:03 I mean, I love TCU the way they play this year. And that game against Oklahoma state, it was too bad that it got over. Well, it was the Alabama, Tennessee game was, was like all time, but I was watching both at the same time and I was like, this is a great game. What TCU is doing to come back in this game. Last conference I wanted to talk about obviously ACC Clemson. So I, I, a couple of weeks ago, I was like, take Clemson 16 to one to win the national championship.
Starting point is 01:26:31 They're not going to win it, but at that number you, they're going to get there. They're going to get there. Uh, is there, it's already down to 10 to one. Is there a chance they could even get to the final? Cause I, I've watched most of their games. The Wake Forest game was crazy. They had a lot of defensive backs out. Sam Hartman played out of his goddamn mind.
Starting point is 01:26:48 It was incredible. I, I do think once Clemson gets a little more healthy on, on defense, like they are, they are going to be right up there with everyone else in terms of just the way they play defense. And DJ Uncle Laylee is actually not so bad anymore. That's a nice thing to say. Oh no, I'm, I'm, I've changed my mind. This is, I'd say in the past four weeks I've gone from, from a DJ,
Starting point is 01:27:11 we are going to lay doubter to DJ is good. Yeah. He's just good. Like some of the, there was a play made the Florida state game where they, they sent a corner blitz and the guys got him dead to rights. And it's like the guy realizes as he gets within two feet of DJ, holy crap. This guy is six, five, two, 45.
Starting point is 01:27:30 And DJ just kind of sidesteps him and uncorks a beauty down the sideline. And he just wasn't throwing that confidently last year. This is, this is a different person that we're seeing this year. And I, I, I admit, I was wrong on him. He, he has really grown up and I love watching that offense play now. Now defensively, you're right. They had some guys out. I think their defensive line is nasty enough.
Starting point is 01:27:56 Actually, that if they get in the playoff, they might be able to beat somebody in the playoff because again, we talk about things that travel. Well, Brian Bersie and Tyler Davis travel, those guys are, are fantastic. And so I think they have the pieces to actually compete for a national title. Whether they can put it all together is another question. They've got Syracuse this week, Syracuse is undefeated. I think, I think Clemson's almost a two touchdown favorite.
Starting point is 01:28:26 My guess is they flex on Syracuse. And then we forget about them for the rest of the year. They keep on winning. And then they show up at a semi-final and the other teams like, oh crap. Yeah. It might be better than us. That's what, that's kind of my whole thought process is like, they have the dudes. Like the, you know, your co-host Ari stars matter.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Like they have the stars. It was just last year was a down year. They won 10 games. Their offensive lines suck. DJ sucked. DJ also, he, that Notre Dame game like screwed him so bad when he, when he filled in for Trevor Lawrence and lit the world on fire and everyone's expectations for him went sky high. And then he had last year and everyone's like, this guy stinks.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Now we're getting to see kind of the middle ground here. And he's pretty good. He will miss like one or two throws a game that you'd be like, what the fuck is going on with him? But that's also an expectation of a five star. That's probably unfair. Yeah. And then the number of misses has come down. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:24 And then the thing is, those are made up for by, he's now going to make three, four throws a game or go, how did he do that? Right. And you didn't do it. You never said that last year. But like that Wake Forest game, he had two throws in overtime. They're like, I don't know if anybody else can make that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Yeah. Andy, give me the ultimate chaos scenario that we can look forward to as, as the rankings start to come out. Give me one that'll just like, that'll piss everyone off. I want, I want you to say the words and I want to just think to myself, oh my God, that would be awesome. Well, there'd be one group of people that would be happy about this and, and they tend to be pretty annoying when they're happy.
Starting point is 01:30:02 So you just be ready for that. But everybody else would hate this. All right. Here we go. So Tennessee and Georgia play an absolute classic nine over times. Anybody could win based on the bounce of the ball. Georgia wins. Tennessee wins the rest of their games.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Ole Miss in Alabama and Oxford play an absolute classic. Alabama wins with a walk off field goal or an overtime. Something like that. It's close. I know where this going and I already had Alabama goes to Atlanta to face undefeated Georgia beats them close. I'm just saying people are asking. Could Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee and Ole Miss be the playoff?
Starting point is 01:31:02 Yeah. Ohio. Yeah. Ohio State loses to Penn State beats the shit out of Michigan and then Illinois beats Ohio State in Indianapolis. You got that. And then the pack 12 will take care of itself. Somebody's going to knock off TCU.
Starting point is 01:31:20 Clemson loses Syracuse this weekend. And then South Carolina just plays the game of its life and wins that makes that a rivalry again. It's all coming together for that plucky little SEC. Might just be their year. Damn. JMU dominates Marshall and goes on the road to Louisville. Kicks a shower.
Starting point is 01:31:41 Then maybe they sneak in. Oh, well. Listen, I don't know. As Scott Frost will tell you losing to play Helton's Georgia Southern. Just just not great for your future prospects. No, it's not good. I said that I would cut my penis off if they made the college football playoff this year.
Starting point is 01:31:57 A lot of people didn't realize that. Solid bet when you make the playoff. The rules are in your favor. Yes. Yes. All right. So Andy, I got one last question. Roback question.
Starting point is 01:32:09 Andy's wearing Roback right now. QZIP. Listen, I was wearing Roback when I caught a pass in the Texas A&M Alabama. One hand and catch. And I'm pretty sure it was because of my Roback hoodie. Hell yes. So go to roback.com.
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Starting point is 01:32:38 they just get to be in every conversation, college football conversation. It's actually the most relevant Nebraska's been in a long time. They just had to fire their coach to have it happen. Where, where do you think it is right now? Like if you had to circle, I loved your idea of Jeff Monk and going to Nebraska and them just running the triple option on steroids. But if you had to guess right now, where are they leaning and who are they looking for? I think Lance Leipold would be your favorite.
Starting point is 01:33:05 He's the Kansas coach and did a great job. Now, if, if Wisconsin's really open, if they are not just going to elevate Jim Leonard, that might be where Lance Leipold would land. He's from Wisconsin. He's a Wisconsin guy coach at Wisconsin Whitewater. Won a bunch of D three national titles there. But, you know, Kansas is going to try to keep him. They're going to do everything they can to try to keep him and throw a bunch of money at him.
Starting point is 01:33:27 But I think when you look at a guy who's built like that, it makes a lot of sense because he has, Kansas was a bigger dumpster fire when he got there than Nebraska is now. And that's saying something. And the fact that he turned it around as quickly as he did. Well, it's not that different from a recruiting footprint standpoint or anything else. He understands the lay of the land very well. So that's one I would look at. I still think Matt Campbell can coach.
Starting point is 01:33:55 I know all the Iowa State people are out on him now and everybody's like, well, he missed his window. If you can make Iowa State win nine games in a season, you're a good coach. Like, you know what the hell you're doing. And again, similar recruiting footprint, similar kind of builder. I think that's a guy they should look at. I know, I know there's a lot of shine off him right now. But I guarantee if they had beaten Texas this weekend, everybody would be like, well, it's Matt Campbell's job to lose now. So that's another one I think.
Starting point is 01:34:23 And, you know, for, I hope Mickey Joseph gets a shot. He's the interim coach right now. He's got him playing better. And you know what? If he keeps him playing better and then decide, no, we don't want to hire you. I hope Mickey Joseph gets Colorado because I think he's, he's showing he, he's worthy of head coaching job. Yeah. You didn't mention Urban Meyer.
Starting point is 01:34:40 So that's off the table. I'm guessing Urban feels like he could do a little better. Oh, okay. Okay. Maybe Notre Dame's open in a couple of years. That was a bad loss to Stanford. I just want, I just want to wheel Notre Dame and Urban Meyer because it would be the funniest marriage of all time. I think we missed our window in 2000, 2004 going into 2005 when the, when the Notre Dame jet landed in Salt Lake City.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Yeah. But Florida's athletic director had already basically made the deal. Yeah. It was, it was over then. I feel like that's a marriage even, even Notre Dame would not approve of. No, no, they wouldn't. There's a bridge too far. But Urban Meyer is that guy.
Starting point is 01:35:18 He's that. He's the one guy out there where it's like, do you want to win a national title? Cause you're probably will. I don't know if they will. I'm not sure how Urban's management style works in the era of NIL and the transfer portal. Yeah. It's true. It's a lot more like working in the NFL now.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Mm hmm. I just, yeah. Little college coaches just realized that it doesn't work in the NFL. The only person that made it work was probably Pete Carroll. Right. It was Pete Carroll and, and, you know, the, the revisionist history of, if Drew Brees had passed his physical Nick Saban would still be in the NFL right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:51 Yeah. There's that. I guess Jimmy Johnson, right? That kind of worked out. Yeah. That worked and probably could have kept working except Jerry wanted to, to bring in Barry Switzer. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:00 I guess you could say Barry Switzer too. If you're just going off Superbowl wins. You just say that. Barry Switzer had a Larry Kokoresk experience though. Yes. You just say, did they win a Superbowl? Yes. The answer is yes.
Starting point is 01:36:14 Barry Switzer was a resounding success in a, in a perfect job. Um, okay. Well, Andy, thank you as always. It's been a very fun college football season. Um, it feels like there was so much hand wringing with NIL and stuff. And now we get to watch these games. That's been my, my, my main point forever is like everyone gets upset about the conference, the NIL when the games are on, you're going to watch because there's
Starting point is 01:36:36 nothing like it. It's, it's the whole off season because the off season is so long. We get into the weeds of all this crap and, and I always tell the people because they, they'll yell at me, I'm never watching this again. Now that the guys are getting money or I did too many buyouts and all that. Shut up. What are you going to do on Saturday? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:54 Exactly. You're going to watch some college football. Absolutely. Yeah. It does serve a valuable purpose, which is it gives people an excuse if their team loses. It's like, well, it's the NIL bullshit. Yes.
Starting point is 01:37:04 Yes. I'm out. I don't want to watch this anymore. Andy, thank you so much and appreciate you coming on. We'll talk soon. All right. See you guys. Andy Staples is brought to you by Chevy.
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Starting point is 01:38:50 One question with the quarterback, PFT, I'm going to let you, you asked the first question of Joe. Thank you. Yeah, we have to be very efficient with these questions because we only get one. So I'll just tell people to check out the Joe Burrow Foundation. I'll give you that plug right off the back of some of the nice guy. My question for you is, if you could get one guy for the month of December and the playoffs, so again for the playoffs, too, to join the Bengals between Odell Beckham, LeBron James
Starting point is 01:39:18 at tight end, or Harambe is alive again, and he's playing defensive end, and he's doing a three-man rotation with Trey and Sam Hubbard. Who are you taking? You got to take Harambe, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. I mean, the strength to weight ratio is just way higher than humans. You got to get after the quarterback in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:39:39 You have to be able to heat them up. Like you got to, you got to take Josh Allen or Mahomes. I think the only person that's taking Josh Allen down is probably Silverback Gorilla. Yeah. That's, I mean, that's a easy seven sacks a game, I'm sure. I think we're kind of sleeping too, like Harambe could probably play two ways. You could probably have him as your left tackle as well if you needed him. It depends on how great his cardio is.
Starting point is 01:40:02 That's true. That's a good point. Yeah. Like does he have all the current injuries that he currently has? Yeah. If so, you'd probably run out of breath pretty quick. From each back. I like that.
Starting point is 01:40:12 Yeah. Okay. That was a good question. Joe, my question is, this season, you guys seem to be riding the path. You had your appendix taken out before the season. Have there been any times this season where you've made a throw and you're like, damn, if I had my appendix, like I would have, that throw would have been good. No, not specifically.
Starting point is 01:40:36 It was definitely took some time to give back to where I was pre-surgery, but you know, I'm feeling good now. So I think, I think we're going to get it wrong. Okay. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not a doctor or a scientist. I just, you know, was curious if like you make a throw and you're like, oh man, if I just had a like a little bit more of my body, internal organs, that throw might have, might
Starting point is 01:40:58 have been a completion. Yeah. You never know. You never know. Okay. You don't have as much guts to spill. That's kind of the problem. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Supermetrically. Yeah. Billy, do you want, do you have a question, Billy? Go ahead. Oh wait. Hold on. Billy's mic is not on. We're going to turn Billy's mic on.
Starting point is 01:41:14 He's got a question. This is always scary when Billy has to ask a question. Hey, Joe. Quick question. There's a clip going around the internet. I want to get your take on it. There's a cough that happened during a press conference. I saw you were getting a lot of unfair flak about it and just wanted to hear your side
Starting point is 01:41:29 of the story because it's important. I was what? What did you, what was the last part? Well, it's important because you're getting a lot of flak on the internet. That's not a question, Billy. You have to ask your question. My question is, yeah, his question is can he hear the, the, your side of the story of it?
Starting point is 01:41:44 Please. Yeah. I honestly don't even remember if I was reacting to the cough. I could have been. I do a lot of press conferences. It was a while ago. I barely remember it, but so I don't even, I don't think I was reacting to the cough. I think it was reacting to something else.
Starting point is 01:42:03 When was this press conference? People are saying that he was scared of a cough. Oh, okay. So Billy just basically was like, are you a lib? Do you still think COVID exists? Oh, frightened of. Are you asking if I'm frightened of loud noises? With, without the appendix, immunocompromization.
Starting point is 01:42:20 We don't know. We don't know. Yeah. We don't know. We don't know. You never know. Never know. I'll have to open ended for the discussions.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Next time we have you on Billy's question will be, do you think COVID is real? Yeah. Oh, I wish we had longer to discuss this topic. Joe, do you have a question for us to finish this off? Big cat, how many donuts did you eat this weekend? Oh man. So I got a little, I was at a wedding on Friday, got a little banged up. So it was a lot.
Starting point is 01:42:53 It was, I get six and then I usually will just take a bite of all of them. Is this a, I feel like Booger put you up to this question. I'm not actually going to not, I'm not going to answer. I'm not going to implicate myself anymore. This is bullshit. All the LSU guys. You put me on the spot and so I throw out a question. You want from me.
Starting point is 01:43:11 Okay. I just, I feel like the LSU guys are just really, they're really, I'm going to LSU this weekend. It's going to be great. It'll be great. Yeah. It's always fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:22 It's going to be a great time. Fred's it's going to be, it's going to be sick. Everyone should come out to the show. Um, all right. I think we, we're out of questions, uh, unless anyone else in the room. Oh, Jake has a question. All right. Last question from Jake.
Starting point is 01:43:33 Hey Joe, Jake Marsh, part of my take podcast, which shows you enjoy more? This one or calling cowards? Good question. Good question. I enjoy both of them equally. That's not true. Okay. Let me see him.
Starting point is 01:43:50 That he's a fake soup guy. Yeah. He doesn't really like soup. What does that mean? He pretends that he likes soup, but I guarantee if you ask Colin Coward to name six soups off the top of his head, he's going to be running to Google. He doesn't, he doesn't actually like soup. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Did you name six soups off the top of your head? You want me to name six right now? Six. Okay. Uh, we're going to go loaded baked potato, Manhattan, Clinton, Chowder, New England, Clam, we're counting clout and Chowders. Okay. Then I'll do Chowder.
Starting point is 01:44:19 Then ramen. I'm going to go with foe and I'm going to go with the Avgolomonos soup, the, uh, the Greek lemon chicken soup, my personal favorite. Chowder counts too. Chowder. Dude, Joe, you just got dunked on. Yeah. That was bad.
Starting point is 01:44:32 That was bad for you. That was really bad for you. Come at the King. You best not miss. Yeah. Max, did you have a question? Like your phone? Let's see if you have a question.
Starting point is 01:44:41 Last question for Joe. This is from Max, our producer. Hey Joe, pardon my take podcast here. Um, did you pick one show, if you could pick one show for the rest of his life or else you die, which show would you pick ours or Cowards? That was a good question, Max. All right. Well, Joe, thank you for joining us for one question of the quarter.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Rick, we got to have you back on for a real interview sometime soon and, uh, best of luck with the rest of the season, man. We love watching you. Yeah. Sounds good guys. Appreciate it. All right. Thanks, Joe.
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Starting point is 01:46:43 What are we doing? FAQs and guys on chicks. Yeah. Let's do it, Hank. Hey, fellas, do you think Max could beat Billy up? I saw him easily out benching Billy and he had the filly rage that Billy can't contend with as a soft hand New Yorker. Also, please say Thylian. We never out benched me. Thanks, Big T. Meatspin.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Love Meatspin. OK, Max never out benched me at all. Here's the thing. I've witnessed both Billy and Max, Max benched on the same day. And the fact is, Max put up the full rack of weights with ease on the same very same day that Billy did not get the full bench. That is not true at all. That is just not true.
Starting point is 01:47:24 On that day, it was on that day, it was true, Billy. That was the day that we just lie on the podcast. We just lie. No, we made a sheet about it. I benched as much as you did that day, which was 255. And then Max put up all he does is I was going to do 75 to in lie. OK, I was 75. I like this question because there's a zero percent chance Billy doesn't end up triggered.
Starting point is 01:47:48 But keep going. Well, I was going to say the only other thing I would say just for the like can confirm from the question is that Max does have those like blue collar, filly hands with calluses. Like he doesn't even really do. Yeah, yeah, man, he and Billy does have his hands on the podcast. So his calluses like all over his hands and and it's confirmed we did a test. Billy has the softest hands on the podcast. Yeah, also one time I this is no joke.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I walked past Max one day when he was editing. He was doing like a working lunch at his desk and he was eating the biggest steak that I've ever seen just with a knife at work. It was pretty cool. Yeah, it's I mean, Max is pretty much everything that Billy wants to be. Max, why don't you speak some truths to the people? You just want to call me back. So right now I can just see.
Starting point is 01:48:34 No, I don't want to call you that. That's not what I'm saying. Did you ever bench more than 275, which we both did? We both did that. True. See, no, that's some facts on the podcast. That is true. That is true. But then we both want to go.
Starting point is 01:48:48 But then we both went to 290 and I didn't get it. But you got stuffed immediately and I was like. Yeah, so you can bench to Max convinced 285 and no, no, we tried. Not neither of us did 285. Yeah, correct. But he did it to 90. He almost did it to 75 harder than you did. Yeah, yes.
Starting point is 01:49:11 Yeah, I'll give him that. But we both did it. That's not it. Also, there was that one day that Billy didn't do 275 though, because I was. Yeah, well, you didn't let him see that was your fault. Next question, the good thing is, Billy, you didn't take any of this as a joke. Which it was meant to be a joke. I think actually that Max, after a Philly's win versus Billy, after a jet's
Starting point is 01:49:34 loss would be that would be a battle for the ages. How do you all navigate around criticizing either past guests or guests you want to have on in the future? Oh, I saw a when finally the other day, he's a piece of shit. What do you go viral for? He went viral saying that Bill Murray was mean to them, or he didn't like them to mean to like Chris Farley. He came back to like guest host SML.
Starting point is 01:50:07 That's a shame. We should we should bleep. We should bleep the name that I said there and just leave in all the contents. So we never said that. I never said that. I never said that. I think we're actually pretty good. Yeah, yeah, we are.
Starting point is 01:50:22 You can usually figure out exactly who we're defending because they've been on the podcast. I don't think that we really make that we don't really try to hide our biases. We're openly biased. Yeah. And more than that, I mean, we have taken from day one, PFT and I think all like agreed like this is a podcast that is we want people to come on, have fun and come back, not play gotcha.
Starting point is 01:50:44 So we've even protected guests before we've even some of our favorite guests. We cut things out that they didn't even realize they said like we'll we want everyone, we don't want people to just get bad publicity that doesn't really serve the podcast and doesn't make anything funnier or fun. So and then the few people that we don't like, you can pretty much figure out because we talk about them all the time. Like Dan Maria. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:08 All right, we're going to, I think I think we're going to do jimbos, by the way, we're going to bring them back. So try not to send, send real ones. It's been enough time. Hell yeah. Yeah, I have a question. There's just not a meme, send me like three questions and two of them are not even good.
Starting point is 01:51:22 So. Hank, I have a question real quick. What are jimbos? Uh, jimbos are from Jim, Jim, not Jimbo Fisher. Uh, Jim Tom Sula, Jim Tom Sula, that's what he called his fuck up. So he would say, you know, I fucked up and just call it a jimbo. So in the early days of the show, if I was supposed to run, yeah, if I was supposed to run when I was a pat, when I was supposed to run, when it was
Starting point is 01:51:44 clearly, um, uh, running down and I passed, that's a jimbo. That's on me. And he would just own up to it and be like, from the early days of the show, I think it was on Fridays, like before fire, fast, we would talk about our biggest fuckups of the week and then have people submit fuckups. It was the classic pizza hut fuckup. Uh, and so that we, we did those for a while, but then people started
Starting point is 01:52:05 sending bad ones. So we stopped, but we're going to bring them back because these epic user are now bad. If we, you know what, um, we'll, we'll put in what, maybe we'll, we should re-release on our YouTube, the best jimbos, which the, the, the pizza hot one, just put that up there as a short so people can get an idea. Maybe the hardest I've ever laughed. So give you an idea of what jimbos were.
Starting point is 01:52:29 It was one of those things that then became people were just making stuff up, but we do, you know, day one, AWLs know that jimbos were, were great at the beginning. So, uh, we'll try to, we'll try to reclaim that glory. And shout out Billy for jimbos. He said jimbos has just always been one of my favorite OG segments that I just used. That's how I fell in love with the show.
Starting point is 01:52:54 Oh, wow. Back. Sup fellas. That's for a minty voice. Um, where do you guys see the show going in the future? It seems like you guys have got most of the white whale interviews. Is there a way you guys plan on keeping ideas fresh and exciting or just going with the flow?
Starting point is 01:53:14 Especially with Chicago and the horizon. Thanks. Yeah, we're actually going to take the show into the metaverse next year. It's going to be exclusively in the metaverse. So buy your $75,000 helmet from Mark Zuckerberg. Okay, real answer. Um, we do still have some white whales out there. And I know that obviously, you know, we, we don't try to delve too far into
Starting point is 01:53:39 comment sections, everything because it will poison your brain and, and it does keep us fresh. You can see Billy's brain, um, freshly poisoned every day. Uh, but I, I would say that yes, there are some repetitive nature of the show, but the non-repetitive nature is the sports. That's what keeps it fresh. Sports are always, there's always a different sports story. There's always, you know, the seasons change and that's why I love doing the
Starting point is 01:54:02 show because I like talking sports with you guys. So it's like, you know, when, every year, like when football season ends, it's a little sad, but it's also like, Hey, I'm ready to talk about a different sport. And then we go to something else and then summertime, it's like, let's do something different. Let's talk about Rushmore. So I feel like the, the calendar year in its own keeps us fresh. It's funny cause there's always like one person that'll be like fastest.
Starting point is 01:54:24 Two minutes is the worst. I skipped forward through it every single week. And then you, but you, you look at everybody else. We all know what we intentionally skip the jets, the packers. Who else do we intentionally skip? Um, the Ravens. Yeah. Ravens.
Starting point is 01:54:38 I think I realized that it's cause whenever the bears lose, I don't put them in. Because the jets have one, I think it's like, people are like jets fans. Like listening, like, why don't you put the jets in? It's like, I've never seen that before. But it's only because they're good in the past two weeks. And we've said it a million times. We, the fast two minutes are pretty much random. Like we pick eight to nine games and sometimes we even pick a game, start it,
Starting point is 01:55:02 have nothing good, and then go to the next game and just be like, let's just do not do this game. So it's, we will do, I actually kind of want to not do the jets. Well, we did, we did that a couple of years ago. I forget what team that we did, that we just intentionally never included the entire, maybe it was the dolphins. I think it might have been the dolphins. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:55:20 We should, we should, you know, we should do, let's, let's do this. Um, we will include the jets in every fastest two minutes when they lose and never include them when they win. I like that. We'll get people so mad. And if you're listening to this right now, you know, we're doing this intentionally to piss people off. But yeah, the, um, what PFT was saying is right, like you could find, I, if you
Starting point is 01:55:39 wanted to just dig deep into the internet, you could find a complaint about everything that this show has ever done about each one of us a million times over, but I think for the majority of listeners, the vast majority of listeners, they enjoy the show and, uh, we love them for that. So that we, you can't listen to the 3% 1% that, uh, we'll pick apart every little thing that you say. Also Chicago will be a game changer too. I think that will, that will
Starting point is 01:56:07 Chicago, the office is going to be sick. Everything will be fresh. Just based off of us being in a new place and in a new office. Yeah. The office is going to be sick. And by the way, the, the 1% that do pick apart everything we say, I actually don't even hate them because it's like, it fills their day with something. Well, it's like, they just mark on everything that we say it's like, they
Starting point is 01:56:25 have to listen to everything listening like that's the person that is paying the most attention is a person that's able to pick everything apart. Right. And, and I do, um, especially in football season, because we talk about every team and we talk about the entire league. So we're not experts about any specific team and we will get the experts. Chime in about their specific team being like, you got this wrong. It's like, you know what?
Starting point is 01:56:46 I probably did because we're doing a fucking big view of everything. So you're right. I didn't know that like the left tackle went out in the second quarter and that changed the outcome of the game. Exactly. They'll be like, we're he most, it actually didn't get any touches in the third quarter and I'll be like, yeah, I, they'll say, do we even watch the games?
Starting point is 01:57:03 I'll be like, kind of, yeah. It was on one of the, it was on one of the TVs and I was watching it. I think we do a pretty good job for, for talking about all of them and having no expertise whatsoever. Yep. Acceptability. Yeah. That was it.
Starting point is 01:57:22 Oh, that was it. Oh, I had one more. There was one sent to me. Um, let's see where was it? Let's do, okay, this one was high, long time, AWL, I have a FAQ with years of doing the show three times a week. I was wondering if after all those shows has Hank ever guessed the correct number of the ping pong ball machine?
Starting point is 01:57:43 Thanks. Hank. No. No, that's too bad. That's too bad, dude. That's too bad, dude. Oh, did you guys see the story that just came out about, uh, Jerry Jones, Jerry Jones and Robert Kraft?
Starting point is 01:58:04 What is Billy's face right now? It's like, uh, Walter M. Violet Beauregard and Willy Wonka, which he turns blue. Oh, no, that's just a, no, Minty's going nuts in the apartment over. And I don't know what he's doing. Wait, who was, what was the story, PFT? Uh, Jerry Jones is trying to take money out of Roderick Doe's pocket again, trying to redo his contract because he thinks he makes too much money.
Starting point is 01:58:24 And, uh, Robert Kraft was, uh, it was disagreeing with him because Robert Kraft loves Roger Goddell. Goddell was at his wedding. I think that was kind of weird. Um, and then Jerry Jones just screamed at him, don't fuck with me. And then Kraft was like, excuse me. And Jones clarified and said, don't mess with me. I love all this shit.
Starting point is 01:58:42 And Jim Merce, your, your, uh, your, your white knight being like, he's out. And it's so great because everyone's like, wow, Jim Merce's got bald. No, Jim Merce, literally every bad thing he's ever done is public. So Dan Snyder can't do anything to him. It's actually perfect. It's kind of the Dave Portnoy method where it's like everything that he's done is out there. There's, you can't, you can't find something that he hasn't already talked about.
Starting point is 01:59:06 Um, so it's, I thank you, Jim Merce. I actually, I DM'd him earlier today. I was like, thank you, sir, for standing up for what's right. And he thumbs dumped it. Um, if Jim, if Jim Merce, if he can, if he can. Get Dan Snyder out, I will get, I will get a Colts fan. I will, the Colts will be my AFC team for sure. Like I will, I will root almost as hard for the Colts and they'll probably get,
Starting point is 01:59:32 it'll be nice too, because the Colts will get quarterbacks that the commanders will get just like one year before and then they'll filter through. I will become a Colts fan in the AFC if Jim Merce does this. And I think he's going to, because you've never heard an owner say anything like this before. It just doesn't happen. He was like, yeah, I think we need to get him out. I think we need to force him to sell.
Starting point is 01:59:51 Fuck yeah, Jim Merce. I've always said Jim Merce is what I think I would be like if you gave me like a billion dollars, buy every guitar out there, get like crazy, crazy amps and like pieces of Americana, jam out with all your musical heroes, and then own a football team and then not be drug guys, not be drug guys. And then once a week, you just send off a tweet being like, yeah, the roof's open. There you go. My job's done.
Starting point is 02:00:14 I fucking love Jim Merce. I always have Jimbo. I love you. Please do the right thing for, for the league, for the Colts, for our Colts and for America. I'm rooting for this just so that you can just be ride or die with the Colts and then have to explain it anytime. Anyone asked like your commanders and Colts fan.
Starting point is 02:00:31 You're like, well, how much time you got? Yeah, no, this, I mean, it would be huge. I've said that I would, I would get like a tattoo of whatever. I've said a lot of things about what I would do for Dan Snyder. You cut your dick off. He said, if you guys never said, I would cut my dick off. If JMU won or was invited to the playoff and then that sick fuck Darren Ravel tweeted out, I've never rooted harder for a team, including Northwestern before.
Starting point is 02:00:55 What a fucking freak Darren Ravel is being like, yeah, he wants, you know, what he wants to do is he wants to buy it. It is memorabilia. Yeah. He would definitely a one of my own. I own over one piece of PFT's body. Mm hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:09 Over, over half of a piece of his body. Okay. Number. So Hank, uh, but you, you've not gotten this, right? No. Okay. Um, just making sure I wanted to answer that person's question. I'll go 37, 19, 91.
Starting point is 02:01:29 I don't think this, I don't want to do this one. Come on. You don't think you think it'll be Mickey Mouse if you don't play here? I'm not there. Yeah, but I think the real machine. Come on, Hank, Hank, Hank, but Jake's not going to cheat. Hank, I'll run over to your house and celebrate with you. Hank, this is one step closer to you getting that $5,000.
Starting point is 02:01:47 Come on. 17. No, five. Oh, five. Oh, no, no, no, no. I can't change my 17. Oh, no. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:02:00 Memes has six. 17. Oh, no. Jake said attention. He is perfect posture. 93. 93. Wow.
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