Pardon My Take - Charles Oakley, Pete Prisco On Urban Meyer, WC Game, CFB Talk & Bring Your Lunch Pail With Jersey Jerry

Episode Date: October 6, 2021

We start the show with the Red Sox/Yankees Wild Card Game predictions then a recap of the game(00:02:52-00:20:56). Monday night football and CFB talk(00:20:56-00:37:42). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Game of Thrones and the internet blowing up on Monday(00:37:42-01:02:56). Charles Oakley joins the show to talk about his new show, being an enforcer in the NBA, toughest guy that tried him and being in Michael Jordan's inner circle(01:02:56-01:53:45). Pete Prisco joins the show to talk about the Jaguars and Urban Meyer's terrible week(01:53:45-02:10:27). We finish the show with Bring your lunch pail with Jersey Jerry(02:10:27-02:32:18).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Charles Oakley in person, great interview with Oak, talking about his career in the MBA, being best friends with Michael Jordan, being the last of the enforcers. We also have Pete Prisco from Jacksonville to talk about Urban Meyer and the fiasco that has ensued in the last couple of days down in Jacksonville. We're going to talk some college football. We're going to talk some Monday night football, hot seat, cool throne. We have the recap time traveling of the Red Sox Yankees one game wild card. And then we have a very new special guest on Jersey Jerry

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around the room, predictions, and then we'll kick it to ourselves at 11 p.m. tonight after the game. Hank, you start. 11 p.m. Well, I mean, oh, yeah, actually, it's Red Sox Yankees. Probably like one in the morning. This game is never going to end. I think it's going to be Red Sox, six Yankees, four. Whoa, take the over. Yeah, take the over. Eight and a half, right? Over Red Sox's money line, maybe a little parlay. Okay, all right. Nice. Nice. I'm going to go Yankees. The fuck. Five, four. Well, I've got reasons, Hank. I'm sure you do. Can I explain? Can I explain why? I guess I'm listening to what the universe is telling me. The Powerball number that was drawn in Boston was one, nine, seven, eight, 1978, 1978. The Red Sox blew like a 20 game lead over the Yankees,

went to a one game playoff tiebreaker game. Yankees win five, four Yankees go on to win the World Series over the Dodgers. That's what's happened this year. Oh, wow. Okay. The universe talks. You need to listen. All right. I'm going to go with, you know what? I'll go Red Sox for three under. Under. Yikes. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like, no, fuck that. Fuck that. That would suck. Red Sox 98. Okay, 98. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Bombs everywhere. So we're all agreeing the over is hitting. And my good friend on the field, not off or all this Chapman will blow the game because that is kind of what he does now. So it will be a very back and forth, fun game, crazy game. Rizzo is going to hit three home runs,

Schwerber two home runs. So it's going to be like, wow, the Cubs is going to basically be a 2016 Cubs montage. Whatever happens. I just hope that either Stanton or I would prefer it if judge struck out five times tonight, actually, like it'd be cool if the Yankees won, but still judge just can't get a hit. Yes, postseason. Someone needs to be playing. I need a story that's going to start bubbling up. It's going to make people give somebody somebody easy to point the finger here. Cole getting chased after two innings would be great. Oh, that would be very fun to watch. All right, Jake, Schwerber going yard off Cole, hitting the ball 500 feet would be amazing. Yep. I'm going to go Yankees seven Red Sox five look for an unlikely hero in the name of Andrew

Velazquez or Greg Allen for the Yankees. I can't quite hear you, Jake. Do you have a do you have a mask on? Yes. There you go, Jake. Trying to protect you guys. Thank you, Jake. Appreciate it. Seven five Yankees unlikely hero in the name of Andrew Velazquez or Greg Allen. Oh, okay. Yeah. And then Billy, right before we kick ourselves, kick it to ourselves. I'm going to go six, three Yankees. I think Stanton judge are going to be popping off. Okay. Now that we've all said, this is going to be a two one game. Absolutely. And terrible to watch. I admire the balls on Hank to get mad at me for rooting against one of his teams in his face. Hank would never do that. Nope, ever. Well, I'm just trying to do a little research PFT. I'm not seeing any hits for this

powerball story. You're not. I could be wrong. What research are you doing? I'm curious. Boston Powerball, Powerball 1978. Okay, you see it. Okay, I'm going to bring it. I'm going to bring some facts to this to this fight right now. The sorry the evening number for the Massachusetts lottery was 1978. Massachusetts lottery. Yes. Interesting. All right. Okay. There we go. Sorry, not the powerball. So let's kick it to ourselves. Here we are. Okay. Game in the books. Some of us were right. Some of us were wrong. The Red Sox go to the next round. They beat the Yankee six to two. The story of the night besides Hank, you will let you talk about your Red Sox. We have to though address the greatest call of all time. John Sterling calling a Stantonian home run

that did not go out of Fenway Park did not even result in a double. It was a single and he gives us one of the greatest lines I've ever heard in broadcasting history when he just said, what did I do wrong? What did I miss? I let's play it. The pitch to snap. There goes. Deep left. It is high. That is far. That is God out of the ballpark. A Stantonian home run. Now, what did I do wrong? What did I see wrong? He's in first base. I can't get enough of this call. It is so goddamn funny. And I honestly think like as bad as the Yankees looked and Garrett Cole looked and how much money they spent on Garrett Cole. This call is bigger than the game. So you could take solace in that Yankee fans that like we

could just make fun of this and just forget that Garrett Cole is a complete joke. Huge winner, Tom Breneman, because this was a deep drive to left. What's funny is the call itself was Stantonian in a way. Like it instantly became Stantonian because it overtook the hit that Stanton had off the Green Monster, even though it didn't even hit high up off the off the wall. It hit kind of the first one halfway down towards the base. Second one was a much longer drive that he hit. Legacy game for the Green Monster overall though. We don't talk enough. We don't give enough credit to how ridiculous the Green Monster is of a thing. I love that baseball has that little unique quirks about the ballparks

and even right field in Boston is a hilarious little place too. But what is showing by the Green Monster tonight? It is very funny too. It makes me miss the hill in the middle of Astro Stadium in the middle of center field that was just so, so dangerous. In the pool. Yeah, in the pool. So Hank, you obviously, winner gets to speak first. We'll then let Jake and Billy go. That was a good night for the Red Sox. They march on. They have to face the rays now. But anytime you can beat the Yankees, I would say that's a very, very good night, right? Absolutely. Always good to beat the Yankees. Also, at some point at the end of the broadcast, I couldn't tell if the announcer was trolling, but he was like, no one

really expected the Red Sox to do anything this year. So like they're exceeding all expectations. So I feel like being one of the highest payrolls and being an underdog in the playoffs, no matter what, is a good thing. We'll use that to our advantage. What they were saying is like, we fucked up at the start of the season and didn't think that they were going to do a good job. But yeah, you're right. Like they did. They're always going to have expectations if it's the Red Sox or the Yankees. Yeah. Now, Jake, Billy, anything you'd like to say? Jake, maybe, I mean, Billy did tell us that he was, oh, Billy, hey, what's up, Whitey? That's Billy's dog. If you're listening, not watching, not just some random person in Billy's apartment. Jake, why don't you start?

Yeah. So first off on the John Sterling call, usually I tiptoe around broadcasting misuse. I have no excuses here. He was in the stadium. He wasn't, it wasn't a Remy broadcast. It was just, it was just tough all the way around. It was really, sorry, you can finish what you're going to say. No, I mean, you could say his age. I mean, he is a broadcasting legend. He'd never missed his games, but this one you missed. And no, no call is ever going to be perfect, but you missed this one. I think, I think it's the combo of Stantonian and then to just like, it almost was like he, he was talking to no one. And I just think of like the poor person who was like driving home from work. They had to work late and they're

like, I missed the first inning because it was the first inning. And like everyone's been in that spot where they're listening to a game on the radio and the, the broadcaster gets too excited and it's like a warning track shot. If you were listening to that, that's a no doubter out of Fenway Park over the green monster. Out of the stadium. Out of the stadium, out of the state. It's a Stantonian home run. And then to have him just be like, just very plainly be like, what did I miss? I will say, if he was calling it off of a monitor, I do think the cameraman screwed up too. But again, he was there. So you can't use that as an excuse. He was there. But like you said, he's in his 80s, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if he was looking at the monitor

to give him a little bit more help because that's closer to his eyeballs. And the, the camera guy did get faked up big time. It was like on, on a really sick play action pass in the NFL. And so did Matt Vascozha on the ESPN broadcast. So it wasn't just that. Yes. He was bad too. Billy. I shut it off when judge got thrown out at home. Like us as the Billy household didn't have a good time to start watching Squid Game. All time, all time terrible send by Phil Nevin there, all time terrible send. And I, I mean, that kind of changed the game right there. Like that was because it was a three one game. And like you, you, you finally get Evaldi out of the game who pitched incredible guy comes in, you know,

first to batter, he hits that. And then like you, you get your second out at home plate. That, that was brutal. That was the game. So sometimes being a third base coach, sneaky, like a really, really difficult job, especially compared to being a first base coach, where you just kind of stand there and scratch yourself and pick up their shoulder. Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's, that's all you do at first base. But third base, when there's a ball hit to the outfield, especially with the green monster, you're doing all the calculations in your head in like real time and you're going to fuck everything up. It's almost impossible to do. But the third base coach, obviously for the Yankees did a bad job. The third base coach for

the Red Sox also fucked up, but he got bailed out because he changed it at the last time. He's like, stop, no, go, go, stop. And then they just, they ended up getting an easy run out of it turns out. But yeah, it was, that's a tough job. My heart goes out to the third base guys. I don't think that I, I, I, yeah, I mean, it's a hard job, but also it's like, that's your only job. And like, if your only job is to know exactly how good of an arm everyone has and how good everyone is throwing and also know the moment that it's a three one game, you finally got the starter out of the game. You have, you would have second and third with one out, like it's a crazy scent. It is, it's a crazy scent. And it wasn't even a great relay. And they had him out by a, you know,

like a pretty easily. The only other thing I have is obviously, and I knew this was going to happen, the former Cubs just fucking mashed Rizzo and Schwerber both homered. Schwerber hits home runs, like they are just so fucking beautiful. Like his swing is so compact. And if you throw him anything high like that, and he gets it like chest high, he's just going to, it looks like a guy, it looks like a kid playing wiffle ball, but he gets the big red bat. And he just gets to mash and everyone else is using the skinny yellow bat. Like that's what it looks like when he hits home. Did he, I'm glad home run big head in the, in the World Series when we were there. In the World Series? The Grand Slam or was that someone else?

No, that was Miguel Montero. When we were in the, that was the Beershire. That was the Beershire. That was in the NLCS, not the, not the World Series. The, the home run that they showed obviously, because it also came off Garrett Cole back in the wild card game was at 2015. And it was in Pittsburgh, right? Because I, I love watching that home run because the sky is just pitch black. And you just see this pure white ball just like going off into the dark. It looks like he had a comet. He made a comet happen with his bat. And the story from that one, which I can neither confirm or deny, but I've heard from multiple sources is that Kyle Schwerber after hitting that home run, went in the tunnel

of the Cubs dug out and just screamed at the top of his lungs, suck my fucking dick Pittsburgh, because he was so jacked up. So I, he's just, he's just a guy who like, you know, everyone should root for because he's just fun. But that was, that was a nice little like, Oh yeah, it's a nice stitch Schwerber and Rizor are having big hits. And yeah, these guys should be on my team. But what are you going to do? Hank, do you think, Oh, one last thing, or one other thing, Garrett Cole is a bum. Like you, you get paid $300 million. You have to, you have to make it out of the third inning in that game. You just have to, you keep, like, there's no excuse. Like you are the ace. You're the guy that was brought there for that reason.

The fact that you get chased is so, so despicable. And like Yankee fans, we're talking all year about how Garrett Cole is their guy. It's, that's brutal, brutal, brutal, brutal to have happened. Turns out he misses the spider attack a little bit. Yeah. Two innings is, it's tough. If I was, if I was managing that game, I would leave them out for at least another couple innings just because listen, you were paying you this much money. You're going to get us out of this mess. This is not on me. Yeah. Like honestly, if he had pitched five and given up three earned runs, you could at least be like, well, he battled. He didn't even battle. Like you can't, you just can't excuse that. It's a fucking despicable.

The Yankee fans should be sick to their stomach. Also really Yankee fans shouldn't have even watched this game because the Yankees, that doesn't count as the playoffs in its world series or bust, even though they haven't been in the world series in like a decade. Billy. I was just pissed that he didn't get caught using spider attack. You know what I'm saying? Like if you can come out that bad, I wish he like was trying at least with spider everywhere. He sure cheated. He sure cheated. Absolutely. Because you have to start cheating at this point. You're at two innings in, you're going to get the hook. You're making 300 million. You have to start cheating. If I was a Red Sox, I would have fucked with him. I would

have actually asked the umpire to go out there and search him for spider attack and be like, we think he's actually even worse when he's playing right now. Yes. Hank, anything else? How do you feel about the next round? Any, any parting shots? I mean, we're underdogs tonight. Love an underdog. We're underdogs in the series. You know how I feel about underdogs. It's just also hilarious for Yankee fans that Stanton somehow like against all odds had two of the worst at bats where he got hits. Yeah. Like both of those at bats were all things considered in a vacuum, like great at bats. And when you put it in context, like it was miserable. Like all Yankee fans got hyped up in the first inning for a single.

And then all the momentum, like my, that was, that's the great thing about sports where it's like you, you felt the momentum completely shift when he hit it because he smoked the ball. He thought it was going to be a homerun. Then it hit the top of the bench. I go, thank God. And then somehow they threw him out all in the course of 20 seconds. And then the momentum's completely back on your side and you're like, Oh, we're going to win this game. It was absolutely the changing point. Because again, like Evaldi was, was really, really good for the five or whatever it is. 71 pitches. That was, that was crazy. That was like, there's that it's one of those things where analysts can shit should get thrown out the window at some point in the playoffs where it's

like, if you have a pitcher who has 71 pitches in the sixth inning, he's pitching well, like just give him, give him, let him get one or two runs. Like he let up one bomb to Rizzo and like the Aaron judge was like a dribbler. Like he beat out a, yeah. Yeah. Anything else from anyone? I will say, I think Stanton's on his way to pinstripe status. I don't think he's there. I think he had a very good season and shut up the haters. He was, he was very good. I think it's him and judge are staying everyone else on the market. And Jake, you can't know offensively, offensively, Rizzo, Rizzo, Rizzo. We're going to get, we're going to have nothing to do with the Yankees. He was, he looked, he was looking at the Red Sox bench like, Oh, Rizzo is, he definitely

has his pinstripes. So that will be sad, but he earned them through and through. He's the only guy on the Yankees that has heart and who cares. So he should get his pinstripes. But yeah, every, I mean, it's, it's going to be tough because you lose Brett Gardner, another pinstripe guy. Yeah. Only one left from last World Series. Got a lot of pinstripes left on the team. It's going to be it's actually, it's just Rizzo. Rizzo is the only true Yankee that they have right now. Brett Gardner counts. He does count because he won a World Series. So you have to give him pinstripes, but yeah, it's Rizzo and Brett Gardner, the longest in the shortest Yankee. I'm taking away Jake's ability to give pinstripes out for saying that Stan should get pinstripes

absolutely dogged it out of the batter's box on that first single. He stopped, he took a picture, he pulled out an easel, he set up a frame in a chair, smoked a cigarette and tried to do charcoal etching of his home run as it was in midair. He actually, he had a worst call of his own home run than they did on the radio. There was like a helicopter or something flying above that like altered the trajectory of the ball or something. Cause you go and skip Bayless, Mason Crossbar on us. Well, no, but just think about it. Like not only did the TV broadcaster, the player and the radio broadcaster all were so, so wrong. Like I thought Sterling was on a delay or on a watching a monitor for the whole time until they're like, no, he was in the stadium.

I, I mean, I thought it was a home run too. I mean, it was, it was absolutely smoked. So yeah, it just died up there. In fact, you know what it looked like? It looked like when, not to just keep talking about wiffle ball, but it did look like when you squeeze the wiffle ball and pitch it and it's like, you know, like when it's dented and it comes off the bat and like you could hit it really hard and it won't go anywhere. That's kind of what it looked like. That home run was a Mandela effect that we all saw. We all saw a home run happen. Everybody that was watching in real time, but then it just ended up being the worst single that I've ever seen. What did I do wrong? What did I do wrong? All right, let's kick it to ourselves back in studio.

Okay, that was the a wild card game. Now we're back to real time, fun little time travel. How you feeling Hank? This is the best part. I feel great. Yeah. Okay. That was just an awesome game. All right, let's talk some Monday night football and maybe some college football. So chargers, Raiders, lightning delay, one of the weirdest lightning delays ever. We learned a lot about this new stadium and the fact that it's a canopy, which makes, that blows my mind. I don't really understand it, but it's an indoor outdoor stadium that I'm sure is going to suck for the Super Bowl, right? I think it's not so much like a dome as it is a giant tent. Yes. So it's got big walls, but then a huge gap. And then there's a space between that and the roof. So if lightning

could come in at the top, it could hit fans. Yeah. And then Steve Young said, but lightning doesn't travel sideways. I don't know. We'll have to check Steve Young's meteorology degree. I'm not sure about that one, but it is progress for the chargers to have fans that they have to worry about protecting. Right. That's something is growing pace for the franchise. I also loved Booger in a very relatable moment. Like there was, they announced that there was going to be a 25 minute delay and he was like, and I think Susie Colbert Colbert was like, what is it? What is everyone doing in the locker room? He's like, they're probably stripping down, taking off all their tape, like getting into shorts. And Steve Young was like, in 25 minutes and boogers like,

yep, yep, like, I don't think so booger, but it was a great, like I hate being in all this shit. Fat guys got to, got to like get into some comfortable gear. Yeah. He's like, Susie, I would take my clothes off. Yeah. I would, I would probably start a movie. Just time management was very funny there, but the chargers are very good. We saw the makings of September Raiders that we all fall for starting to rear their ugly head. Now they play the Bears next week, so I'm sure they'll be fine there. But it was definitely one of those games where it's like the chargers are for real, for real. And the Raiders, just like we always thought are probably going to end up find a way to finish like eight, nine or nine and eight and have everyone be like,

remember when they were three and oh, and that was the only thing the Raiders have going from besides having like one of the best hitting safeties in the NFL with Hunter Renfro is they, they have a play that they run like three times a game where it's just Henry rugs that gets behind the defense and you're like, Oh shit, I forgot that Henry rugs existed. And then he just shows up five yards past the second. It's becoming, he doesn't have, they don't use him in the short passing game like Tyreek Hill, but it's similar in the fact that like you're right, like there will be moments in the game where you're like, wait, Henry rugs just running faster than everyone down the field. Yeah, I would just run that play to him every time. Yes. If he's faster than

everybody around him. But yeah, the story was the chargers are awesome. The charges are really good. I think that they are the best team in the AFC right now. I think they're the most complete team shot across the bills. I think, well, okay, the winner of the chiefs bills game is going to be tied with the chargers for number one, okay, the AFC right now, but I think they're the most complete team. The defense is awesome. defensive line is really good. The offensive line sucked last year. And they fixed that new tackle. We're Sean Slater. Yep, from Northwestern. He hasn't allowed a sack since October 2018. Yeah, he's very, very good. But then he has to go up against Miles Garrett this week. So that that could all change very, very quickly. But yeah, the chargers

are I think they're for real for real. And I'd also like to acknowledge the Chargers theme song as being one that we don't talk about enough on the show. It is legitimately a great song. Yes, the San Diego superchargers funk. It sounds like it's Casey in the sunshine band. Really good stuff. Yes. So there we go. Acknowledged. Yes, credit credit. There are two thumbs up acknowledged. All right, let's talk some college football, maybe a little bit. So we usually talk college football on Wednesdays because we have so much to talk about on Sunday. This past weekend was essentially, oh yeah, Georgia and Alabama are way better than everyone else. Lane Kiffin with the popcorn comment. I love Lane Kiffin. We've had him on the show.

We want him on the show again. But you can't say bring your popcorn and then just get the shit kicked out of you. So right after he said that he realized that he fucked up and he walked over to his offensive corner and said, Hey, I kind of I kind of fucked up and said get your popcorn. So I don't know what the game plan is, but if you could score maybe twice as many points as you were planning on that'd be great for me. Also a tip. If you're going to say like get your popcorn or some kind of saying make sure that there's not an emoji that people can tweet about it. You know what I mean? Because then everyone just tweets popcorns and then it becomes a big thing. But yeah, that and Georgia Georgia's first team defense not allowing a touchdown this year.

And we're in, you know, week six is pretty fucking crazy. That was like an all out ass kicking. And I don't even think Arkansas is like it wasn't even Arkansas. Oh my God, they're bad. It was just Georgia's defense is that good. And they deserve that much credit. And yeah, I mean, it's it's wild to see like after especially after the last few years where it became offense is king to have almost a throwback with Georgia just being like, we're going to kick the shit out of everyone with our defense. I would love to see what would happen in a matchup right now of Georgia's defense against Alabama's offense because if the last five years have taught us anything, it would still probably be like 30 to nothing Alabama. But their defense

is different. Yeah, defense that is that good where I want to see the matchup. We spent a little bit too much time, I think talking about Sam Pittman taking his shirt off and not enough time talking about what Sam Pittman should be wearing on his head because he's dealing with some significant scalper. Yes, he's not a visor guy. He's not a hat guy. He's a leather leather skin guy. Yeah. So this is kind of what I like about Sam Pittman, though, because I think a lot of coaches right when they get that first big time head coaching gig, they're like, okay, what kind of headwear guy am I going to be? And they figured out because you have to stick with that for the rest of your career. Sam Pittman didn't even consider

putting on a hat. Correct. We need to get him just like a fitted hat, something that covers the scalp up because that thing, that thing was getting pretty toasty. Yes. All right, other things. Notre Dame is out. I expected them to be out there. Good team, but not, they're not going to be in the conversation. So that Cincinnati has their biggest win in the history of the program, goes to South Bend, kind of dominates them. And now they are between, you know, it's so funny. We talk about Cincinnati and we obviously have the bet with Kirk Herbstreet. No one brings up the fact that BYU could very well be in the conversation as well because they play more Power Five teams the rest of their schedule. Not great Power Five teams. They have like Virginia, Oregon,

State and USC. Yeah. But BYU was really good last year, is really good this year, is undefeated, has beaten Arizona State, has beaten Utah, who turns out to be a disappointment. But BYU could end up having a better resume than Cincinnati at the end of the year. I guess Cincinnati will get the boost because they're already higher, but it does feel like this is finally the year now that Oregon is lost. Now, you know, Ohio State lost. So I actually think Texas can beat Oklahoma on Saturday. Clemson has two losses. Everything is setting up to have Cincinnati or BYU crash the party and lose by 100 to Alabama. Yeah. So Cincinnati got to play Notre Dame, which is proud. That's why most people are talking about it. Like BYU, the other guys that you mentioned,

none of those are going to have the juice of a win over Notre Dame on the road. And it's, and there is a clear bias when it comes to late night West Coast games. Like BYU beat Arizona State at midnight. Yeah. I mean, there's a difference between that and Cincinnati going to South Bend in the middle of the day and everyone watching. Also, that's one of the key ways that you can tell that the season's turning between fall and wintertime when BYU fans are pissed off that their team is not ranked in the top four. So that tradition is definitely going to continue this way. I think Cincinnati is better team than BYU. I'm just saying that it's funny that we, all the talk is about Cincinnati and BYU at the end of the season could potentially have

just as good of a resume. So I'm looking at it right now. They have to go to at Baylor, which is going to be a tough game. They still play Washington state who's not very good. They play Virginia and USC. So including Boise State next week, they have four more games against Power Five teams. I'm trying to figure out what Cincinnati's toughest test is going to be. They've got SMU. SMU is very good. No, SMU is good. And then at East Carolina to close out the season. No, it's SMU. SMU is a good team. Yeah. SMU is kind of on the up and up. So SMU will be their toughest test, but it's, I don't know, it's awesome for college football that someone might crash the party and we might have to take Kirk Herb Street out. Although

I'm going to remind Kirk Herb Street, the bed is very clear. It's over a one loss. Would you guys still take your side of the bet? Yes. Because I think if they still, if the, if the playoffs started tomorrow, maybe not tomorrow, but let's just play out the rest of the year. Let's just say hypothetically Oregon and Ohio State don't lose again or even, yeah, say Oregon, Ohio State don't lose again and Oklahoma loses once. It's going to be Georgia, Alabama and one of those three. I still think a one loss, power five team will get in over Cincinnati just because that's what they did. You're basically being out as huge. Yeah. Yeah. Clemson being out of that. That's a big thing. But you're basically asking the people that come

up with a playoff standings like, would you like this giant suitcase filled with cash? Or would you not like it filled with cash? And they're like, well, yeah, we'll take the money, obviously. And I think Notre Dame is probably out because I mean, I think they'll probably lose again, but they also don't have a schedule. Enough data points is what they call it to probably climb back. Not if they start drew pine. And it's also comes down to the conference championship game like Ohio State will play a conference championship game, which will jump Notre Dame at the end of the year. Same with Oklahoma, same with Oregon. Like that's how you jump at the end of the year. I've got a fun fact in the SEC. I did not realize this until

Saturday. So Tennessee, obviously just dog walked Missouri. Correct. They almost I think they scored 62 points. They had a touchdown taken away at the end would have been 69 points, just like an offensive explosion. Nobody saw it coming from Tennessee. Do you know who Missouri's defensive coordinator is? Is it Bob Diacchio? No, no, it's Steve Wilkes. Steve Wilkes, former Arizona Cardinals head coach, went from being an up and coming head coach in the NFL to being the coordinator for Missouri, giving up 62 points to Tennessee in like two years. That's a pretty bad downturn for Steve Wilkes. I don't know. He was the one in Arizona that got fired after one year. Yeah. So I don't think he was ever up and coming. Well, when he was hired.

He was hired. On the day he was hired. From the day he was hired until today. He was up, never coming. Yeah, he was up. He was soaking. He was like urban. He was up and soaking. He was up, not coming. But yeah, that's a tough place for old Steve Wilkes. Yes, we can say Billy. What about Iowa or Penn State? So Iowa. Yeah, no, Iowa and Penn State absolutely can get there. The game this weekend, like Iowa City is basically going to be the capital of college football this weekend. The Iowa or Penn State, I just assume when I say Ohio State, it's actually just Ohio State slash whoever wins the big 10. Like that's going to be Iowa Penn State or Ohio State. One of those three teams you could even throw in Michigan because

fun fact, the only three teams that have not taken a snap while trailing have been Michigan, Georgia and Alabama. Actually, I think BYU might be four. So it's four teams. But yes, you're right. The winner of Iowa Penn State, especially if it's Iowa, because their schedule in the West is very, very easy. So if Iowa wins on Saturday, they are now in the driver's seat to get to the big 10 championship game. And then if they win the big 10 championship game, they're obviously it. I'm going to just throw this one out here with reckless abandon. And you're ready for this one? Yep. Texas doesn't lose again for the rest of the year. Texas would be in that conversation. Texas is definitely in my estimation,

I think they're going to be the best team in the big 12. I think they're going to beat Oklahoma on Saturday. I think they are too. And then they have Oklahoma State at home. But they'll, they'll lose a game for no reason. Their toughest game after that is going to Baylor. Yeah, they'll, they'll lose a game for no reason. That's very stupid. Oklahoma State at home too. Yeah, they'll, they'll, I would trust Texas, but they'll in classic Texas fashion, they will beat Oklahoma. They will officially be back and then they will find a way to lose. The only problem with the Texas argument will be at the end of the year, if you're trying to say Texas is in their one law, like let's say they have one loss, their one loss would be to like the

fourth or fifth team in the SEC West. So people would make that argument. Yeah. But so that's where Georgia and Alabama get in before Texas. Well, I mean, Arkansas would probably have to lose another few games in order for that to happen, right? No, the, the SEC West is incredible. I mean, it's obviously, obviously Alabama is going to be ahead of them right now, right now, LSU. I mean, they beat Texas A&M, but then I think Arkansas is going to end the year with a better record than LSU. Yeah, probably. I mean, our guy might be in the hot seat. I don't want it to happen, but that was on the road in Fayetteville might be pretty good. So there would be the third best. Here's what's going to happen. Texas, if they win this weekend, they're going to win against

Oklahoma State at home. They're going to beat Baylor on the road. Then they're going to go to Iowa State and lose. Wait, say it again. Oh yeah, Iowa State. Iowa State. That's the one. November 6th. So yeah, they're right now, Arkansas is the fourth best. Like in there, they're very good, but Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, and then Arkansas. So like if you, I don't know, that that's going to be the argument against them, which is not fair, but it's just how they're going to argue it. Yeah, you could, you could do that argument, but then you could also say Arkansas is also number 13 in the country. Yeah. This is obviously assuming they're going to lose to Alabama. Right. They might like, let's say they split Auburn and Ole Miss. They're not going to be as highly

ranked. This might be the highest they're ranked. And I love Arkansas. I bet on them every single week. Last week didn't go so well. Mississippi State's even good. The S.C. West is insane. It would actually be perfect. This would be a perfect year for Texas to kind of get back in the conversation after the entire year has been written off as far as them and their ability to be back after that loss at Arkansas. Them like sneaking their way into the back conversation. You're just a blue blood guy. I am. I am. You had Notre Dame in the conversation a couple weeks ago. I like tradition big time. And now it's Texas. I like it. Just hop, you know, maybe we'll get USC back in the conversation. You really lost twice. We

can say Billy. I really hope Coastal Carolina got some better games. They're a wagon. Yeah, they are a wagon. I don't think they have some better games. I don't know. That game last year was so awesome when they scheduled BYU on that short notice. That might have been the highlight of the entire season. Anytime, anywhere. Yeah. And they just fucking punked Zach Wilson. That should be Coastal Carolina's thing where they do one game like that every single year. They just call it the anytime, anywhere bowl. I don't know why the like Cincinnati and these group of five teams, they should essentially leave like all the group of five conferences should leave a date open at the end of the year to to be like we can schedule the best other group of five because

think about it. If Cincinnati and BYU played, they both were undefeated and they played in the last week of November, the winner would have an incredible resume to get it. It would basically be an elimination game. So yeah, you're setting yourself up. You might get eliminated, but you also would be able to leapfrog everyone. That would really force the hands of the football. Yes. They're the playoff committee where they'd look at that game. They'd probably still be like, no, you're not getting in. And then Cincinnati be like, well, there's actually nothing else that we can do. Yeah, there's we've done everything. Yeah. Coastal Carolina does not have any significant games left. I mean, they played all their conference games. All right, let's get to

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because you couldn't take your shirt off. What happened? So he was posting stories, watching the game on Sunday night and his TV was just on his floor. Yeah. So I think he must not have been at his house. Well, no, I think he moved to New York because he does the inside the NFL. So he just moved to New York. Yeah. And he hasn't mounted his TV yet. And it's like, dude, what are you doing? It's just on the ground. It's on like, is it leaning against the wall or is it not a stand? No, it's got the legs. No, no, it's worse than not. It's not on a stand. It's not leaning against the wall. It's on like the cheap little like prongs that you can put on it. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. The tiny little legs.

Yeah. Not good. Low pad level on the TV. Not good. Yeah. That's a tough look. That's Bachelor of Life though. This guy stuff. Julian, I'll come over and mount your TV. If you need to. No, Julian, do not accept that. Billy will not leave. I could see Julian being like a good roommate for Billy. I think you guys might get along. I have a spot. His abs are way better than yours. So not an abs guy. Yeah, I know. But the last guy. Yeah. But his whole thing is like you're going up against Minci right now. That's a step up. I'm just saying. I know. Yeah. I think it's just an example too of like, you know, player life. Now he's kind of in the media world and he doesn't realize that you're not just posting a video of the clip of the play. Your every single

piece of the content that he posts is going to get dissected and roasted. Yes. And unfortunately, he's learning the hard way. Yeah. My cool throne. I have a couple. My first one is Megan Trainor's Toilet. Okay. It's literally a cool juice. It's a cool throne. No, then an article came out that her and her husband who apparently is is the kid from spy kids, Junie from spy kids. They have they share side by side toilets. So not to share. Oh, they call those like Hollywood Bath, I think. I think that's the name of the style of toilet. Wait, are they in the same room? Yeah, they have a big ass bathroom. Okay, I don't that that's like why wouldn't you just do his and hers? His and hers bathrooms? Yeah, like if you go if you've ever seen like someone who's like super,

super rich, you go into their bathroom and it's it's basically and it's the size of a New York apartment where like the shower and the sink and everything will be in the middle and then off to each side will be toilets, his and her baths. That happens for the super rich. What about this? What if it's not meant for both of them to be using at the same time? What if one is just for shitting and the other toilets for pissing and they're just connected to each other? It might be a bidet too. No, they said they like constructed it this way. Do you think they sit at the same time? Nobody knows this, but in our bathroom, there was one toilet and a lot of time in the middle of the middle of the night where we're with the baby we've got to be at the same

time. So I was like, can we please have two toilets next to each other? That's I mean, that is so simple. Dude, be a man. That's what the sink is for. Like pissing the sink or just the bathtub. Yeah, it's right there. The shower right there. Like but the sink is that's what the sink is made for. If you've got great aim, just go between the legs. Jesus, that's a weird thing. That's something I would have kept to myself if I were them. Hank, is that is this one of your eat the rich moments? Got to the M&Ms. Got to guillotine their ass. Guillotine. If you if you can afford two toilets that are connected to each other, you think they had to custom design it like weld the toilets together themselves? I think some plumber was like, no, I'm not doing this. This is

beyond. Yeah, I have standards. Yeah, let's go. I'm not letting you shit next to your husband. This goes beyond my my ethical code. Yes. That's it. Actually, I'll say that one. Whoa. Oh, okay. You sure? Yeah. Okay. Weasers at the end then. Okay. My hot seat is Mike Greenberg haters. They're furious. They're furious this morning because Mike Greenberg finally is going to be on television. Are there Greenberg haters? So many. So many. I think the majority of people are just like whatever. They're just they're Gaga for Greeny. No, they're completely apathetic. No, no. Mike Greenberg trust me. He's got he's got some haters. It's happening. Oh, 12 holes. Oh, but it is happening. The match first price in Friday, November 26. So that's the day after Thanksgiving.

I don't know how I feel about this. I think it's over. I'm okay with that's good because yeah, no, it's over. That's that's the exact right amount of holes that Brooks can pay attention to right? Yep. But that's over. It's over. Like the rivalry is over. You guys realize that right unless there are some stakes that are tied to it that we don't know about the rivalry is over, which is fine. It's good for them to move on. But the rivalry is officially over. Also shout out our boy Brooks for getting paid for this. I hope he's getting paid a big big amount of money. And I hope he remembers who helped start this feud. And then tips tips them thankfully very well. Yes, tips them very well. You guys agree, right? Like that's I mean,

who created this? We did. So would be nice at the very least 10% at minimal. I would say at the very least 25% or a $50,000 shopping spree or shopping spree. Yeah, your choice. But I'd rather just 25% falls in your cup. So Mike Greenberg. Yes, Mike Greenberg. Mike Greenberg feels for Mike Greenberg. No one feels for Mike Greenberg. He doesn't know that he's got haters. People are like, he was trending online today. I because he got announced. Greeny stirs the pot because everyone was like, I can't believe they're going to have Mike Greenberg be Rob Dierdek of ESPN. Right, exactly. So Mike Greenberg is like the face of ESPN's diversity hiring now because they got rid

of Rachel Nichols and Maria Taylor. And did you know that they're almost 50% of the shows that are on ESPN right now do not feature Mike Greenberg? Wow. He can always be doing more work. So Greeny doesn't stop working. He just shows up at like six o'clock and there's a camera pointed on him until like 11 p.m. Yes. And then and then America is clamoring for more Mike Greenberg. So he goes and he does it again the next day. I think he is the reason why he keeps getting his jobs is because just like I said, no one really has a strong opinion about Mike Greenberg. He is the and I don't even mean that as a mean thing. He is the perfect host in that respect. Like he doesn't if you're watching a show, you're never watching it for Mike Greenberg, but he makes the show work.

He's a good traffic cop. So it doesn't like he just he's there. It would suck if he wasn't there because you want a host that can move things along. But that's why he that's why like even though he's on every show, it won't even matter because he's just Mike Greenberg. We're one step away from ESPN Greeny becoming a thing as like an over the top thing for ESPN to charge you $4.99 a month for. Yeah, there are some people purchased. Confirmed. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We want Mike Greenberg. That's jealous. That's jealous. We want Mike Greenberg hasn't ever been said by anyone. See, but that again, I don't understand that like logic. Like he's not Mike Greenberg doesn't have any type of personality or like opinions that are grading. You know what I mean? He loves his wife.

He does. He loves his wife. He's just there. He's just there. He's there. He's just there. Each grapes with a knife. Yes, he does. But I'm just, you know what I mean? Like he doesn't, if you're mad about Mike Greenberg, that means you're just mad about like nothing. It's it's nothing. He's just there to move the show along. If you're mad, if you hate Mike Greenberg, then you must hate watching television. It's just he because there are 72 Mike Greenbergs out appear on your TV every single day across every channel. He's just the best one at it. He's very good at being a professional host and a professional TV man. And there's no, I've never had a feeling about Mike Greenberg, like a visceral feeling. God damn it. I hate that. So we agree that there are

Mike Greenberg haters, but there shouldn't be Mike Greenberg haters. They're misguided. Yep. Just like anyone who's a Mike Greenberg stan is misguided. Yes. It should just be Mike Greenberg's there. Mike Greenberg follows me on Twitter, by the way. He exists. That was quite a moment. The dean of his school after all. That's right. That's true. Well, is it even still a school because we lost our accreditation at Medill? I don't know. And then my cool throne is Game of Throne fans because shout out to me. Shout out to Hank. There's a prequel coming. Nice. Our entire series. That's a prequel. That was yours. That was the one I said. Take it away, Hank. Oh, so there's a prequel series about the Targaryen dynasty 300 years before the original series.

I actually read the book. It's a good book, but it's just a little bit depressing. It just makes me. You read the book? Yeah. When I, you guys remember, I was like fully, fully addicted to Game of Thrones. I read the entire book. How many pages? It's pretty fucking big. Probably like too, too handy. It's not a big book. Compare it to the fact that I haven't read a book. I don't even say 800. Yeah. I don't know. I'm going to look it up. I'm going to look it up. It's actually the bare minimum of a book. No, but anything less is a novella. All right. That might be right. I might be wrong. It's a short story. It's literally like, not only is it a big book, like physically. It's heavy. It's like a coffee table size book. That's what he meant by a big book. Yeah. Like size-wise.

200 pages is not a big book. Are there drawings? There was drawings. Not a lot. Can you fill out your own drawings? Help me out, Jake, please. Is there a word search at the end? The average manuscript for a novel comes anywhere between 250 and 400 pages. Yeah. So that's average. So 200 is a short blow average. Yeah. Aragon was 758. Can we get some numbers on how big this book is? Game of Thrones book? Are you rooting for this to be good or for it to be bad, Hank? I don't know because- Why would you root for it to be bad? I'm not going to root for it to be bad. It's 694. Oh, yeah. Fuck you. Oh, so there you go. But you only read 200. No, I read the whole thing. Oh, okay. I just read so fast. I'm such a good reader that it felt like

200. It definitely only read half. No, I read the whole thing. I don't know. I was fighting with people online. It's one of those things where it's just like the end of Game of Thrones sucks. Okay. And they're never making more Game of Thrones ever again. So even though if this is good, it's still one of those things where if you watch it, like this is the best series ever, can't wait to see what happens. That person's going to be disappointed. Yeah. It's going to bring back feelings of just sadness. I've thought over quarantine many times. I was very obsessed with Game of Thrones. I've been like, maybe I'll start rewatching Game of Thrones again and I just can't bring myself to do it because I know the ending is so bad. I'm just going to get mad. But why

why wouldn't you want it to be good? Like if it's good, it's good and that's fun. Yeah. No, I'm not really afraid to be bad. I never said that. But I know what you're saying that in a way it's almost worse the better the prequel is because it reminds you of how bad it was at the like and then if the Patriots had gone undefeated in the preseason the year that they lost to the Giants in Super Bowl two. Yes. And people keep saying, well, better call Saul is really good. The end of Breaking Bad was really good. Like people that liked Breaking Bad didn't leave that show with a bad taste in their mouth. So when this prequels came out, they're like, oh, yeah, I love Breaking Bad. Can't wait to watch prequels. I personally, and I know a lot of people feel the

same way like hated and were disgusted with the way Game of Thrones ended. So it's like, I don't know, it'd be like, it'd be like, it'd be like if people really hated the way Sopranos ended and then when many Saints of New York came out, but like really like they did in the moment, they did. They weren't happy about it. People. Yeah, people. But I think when Silvio got run over and shot and his hair didn't come off, I'm not going to do any. I'm not going to do any. You just did a mini Saints of New York. Huh? Did you just do? No, I haven't seen it yet. Okay. I'm not going to do any spoilers. People definitely hated the end of Sopranos. Big time. People thought their TV's broke. Whole country thought their TV's broke. I'm different to Hank because I admittedly,

I binge watched Game of Thrones. I think if you watched the whole thing, like throughout six, seven, eight years, whatever it was, and you were invested for a long period of time, you get a little bit more upset with how it ended. Yeah. Like if we as binge watchers, we invested what a maximum of two or three months into this show. But yeah, if you do it over years and then you're the worst part is you had to wait for the worst season to come back. Correct. Like two years for that to happen. So I mean, I think it's going to be a good show because they're basing it off the stuff that's already been written. They don't have to do it themselves. I think it will be good to the only thing I'm worried about. And I know this was a huge problem

with the show in general was like the dragon budget, like the contents. I'm not joking. The story is all like dragon based. There's like a shitload of dragons. So it's like, if they were having problems with like fucking dragons and like having two dragons in an episode was like a big issue. They had to budget for it and it was all this money and shit. How are they logistically going to get fucking 40 and I'm out because the fact that there's 27 dragons or whatever it's going to be like fight each other and they all have to die because we have to get to a point where there are no dragons. Yeah. So that sucks. I don't want to see dragons die. That fucking sucks. But it's over 300 year period. I don't know. I don't know how I think

they're going to pick stories and shit like the book that I read. No big deal. 200 pages. It's felt like 200 pages. I'm such a good reader. It's like it's like it's 300 years. So there's a lot of stories in between. So I think they're going to pick one or two like they have to. I bet you some of the dragons start to band together and then they fight against the people. No dragons definitely fight each other. That's a thing. Quick question Hank. What if the prequel answers a lot of questions that never got answered in the regular series. So like what the fuck the white walkers were actually doing and all that shit. Because it's still it's just it's one of those things they can't they can't post mostly fix the

regular show. They're doing an urban Meyer apology if they try to do it this way. That would actually be one of the most genius things ever if they called it a prequel. But the entire prequel was just like flash forward scenes from the distant future that would act like another season of Game of Thrones that actually wrapped up all the questions. What if you found out what that like spiral sign was in the first season and like all that shit like what I guess I guess but then it's like then they're making a show just to appease like they should just make it an independent show on its own and I'll like it. Yeah. All right. My hot seat is Trevor Lawrence. We're going to get to this with Pete Prisco. But poor Trevor Lawrence gets

invoked in urban Myers apology. That was that was so fucking funny. The fact that urban Meyer apologized for being horny and was like you know Trevor Lawrence was at a bachelor party. Urban Meyer is the worst wingman ever. Yeah. He is he is like he basically comes back from a bachelor party and is like well yeah we went to a strip club but Trevor got his dick sucked like that. Why did he bring up Trevor Lawrence's strip club there or a bachelor party. He's an idiot. Urban Meyer he's so bad at being in trouble. He's like a kid. If you watch him whenever he gets gives a press conference he's either one openly hostile towards the people that are asking questions or two just like looking down at his own feet. Yeah. And so I don't think his team trusts him. I don't think

his front office trusts him. In fact they said he has to work to regain her trust. He has to work to regain her respect so they don't respect him in Jacksonville. Urban Meyer he's he is not long for this league. Yeah. No we're going to get to it. Pete Prisco reminded me of I went and looked up because it really is still stunning and we like him so we're not going to make fun of him. But Rick Petino's apology when he invoked 9 11 which I have a quote I would like to read it to you guys but again not making fun. This is a real quote. Rick Petino talking about his relationship with the woman who then got an abortion. He said when 9 11 hit you needed a community to get over it. In New York City it was easy because everybody knew the devastation of that and they got each

other over it. In Louisville the impact wasn't felt like New York City but I needed this community to help me get over it. That's a fact. That's it. Listen big head takes a village to get over tragedies sometimes. Yeah. And Rick Petino like it or not. Yeah. He needed some help. We all need a helping hand from time to time. And if Rick Petino was in the situation Urban Meyers and it wouldn't even be a big deal because there wouldn't have been enough time to get the second video out there. Yes. Right. So he also said times aren't easy. Rick Petino said times aren't easy. But if I can get through 9 11 I can get through anything in my life and I got through 9 11 and there's nothing ever going to come close to that. We'll get through this in a positive way and move on.

There you go. He did lose his brother-in-law in 9 11 but still that's a very bizarre thing to bring up when you're apologizing for an indiscretion. Yeah I mean Urban could definitely pull the COVID card. He could. He could be like I think we all went a little stir crazy in the house not being able to go out in public. So you know I got carried away. It was my first time being in a bar. I was being you know what the problem was I was being too cautious for my community for the last year and a half. Haven't been out in public to a bar since then is my first time out. I didn't know how to say no to a woman. I forgot how to act in public. My cool throne is me because I'm sure you guys maybe didn't see but I had the greatest cancellation of my life today. I got my root canal

canceled and it was not my fault. It was the dentist's office who I have an unbelievable dentist so I'm not saying anything bad about him because I actually do love him but I went to the root canal was sitting in the chair. There was something wrong with the nitrous and they had to cancel so I was literally they put on the numbing stuff on my gums. They were about to put the needle you know in turn on the nitrous and they're like hey we can't get the nitrous on. We're gonna have to do this next month. The greatest feeling of all time. That's amazing. That's like if you're in the chair and the governor calls and it's like hey postpone the electrocution. It was that's that is that gives me a great idea for a business

which is a dentist's office that schedules the most painful surgeries brings you in and then tells you we have to postpone and that's what you do. You never actually get around to doing the work. So I don't think it's exclusive to dentist because I have the idea that you should have we should have just a cancellation business that's everything so like any type of bad thing that you have to do taxes whatever just make up fake appointments have people believe it and then cancel it right before. Yeah you can do everything. It's not because like traveling you cancel travel canceled night out plans but the feeling that I had this morning when it was the rush because it wasn't even me cancelling on them because then you get

the guilt you're like oh it's my tooth gonna fall out Dan Herron whatever. No it was they canceled on me and I was there. I was ready and ready to roll. They did say like do you want us to do it without the nitrous. I was like absolutely no no and the tough guys on Twitter who were like dude you don't need you don't need nitrous for a root canal fuck off. Yeah a good general of thumb shout out Paul Walker if they offer you nitrous use the nitrous. Yes exactly reverse fire fast. Yeah yeah I was on cloud nine because you go in it was gonna be an hour and a half of just shit my mouth is gonna hurt the rest of the day now I'm scheduled for November November's never gonna get here. I'm free and clear. Can you imagine if there was a doctor's office that

scheduled you for blood work you got to tell like your significant other or anybody that like hey you know I've got this I've got a date set up that I'm gonna go to the hospital they're gonna do blood work they're gonna gonna give me a full physical and you could say that with a straight face and they send you a magnet you could put it on your computer be like or on your refrigerator be like just a reminder your appointment is next Thursday and then you go and then they tell you yeah appointments canceled. Yes. People would pay money for that business. Yeah no I was talking about it earlier today but like there it should be for everything though like you should have for travel for going to a wedding like could you imagine a wedding that you don't want to go to

they just create the whole wedding and then they're like our wedding gift to you is that we canceled it like that all just an entire business that just cancels plans you don't want to do for you and they make the plans they're fake plans and they cancel it and we just do this whole charade and get that adrenaline boost. It'd be great if you were a boss and then you invited everybody that worked for you to your wedding but it's not a real wedding but you just told them listen I'm getting married in a year and then a month after that you'd be like hey guess what. No not a month I want it like two days before. Well the problem with that is people will rearrange their schedules and get actually mad at you. That's even better. Then they get a staycation they stay home. Yes I love

it. Oh but yeah when you get it canceled like two days before and you're like oh a free weekend that I just didn't know existed. If you're a boss you don't need to worry about getting like a gift card for all your employees. You don't have to worry about getting 10% off Verizon phones or whatever that you like you you do for their holiday gift. Just tell them that you're going to get married and they have to come and then tell them they don't have to cancel it. That's a perfect present. Cancel it. Jake your hot seat cool Toronto. You mentioned earlier for a second with my hot teeth the internet with Instagram and Facebook. I was fine with that. I don't know what you guys was fenced it down. I mean it's part of Insta now. Oh is it. Yeah sounding like that guy from Texas.

Isn't it a fake account for yourself. That's what the representative from Texas was like can you shut down your Instagram. Yeah it was fine. I mean it was kind of crazy to be like is this ever going to come back. That was cool. Yeah there was that one like yeah chaps chaps chaps got everyone. I was thinking I was actually pretty happy when it happened. I was like I hope it stays down forever except I would like to get my pictures back from Facebook. Yeah let's get in for five more minutes download our pictures get out. Yeah Instagram Instagram was I actually like Instagram. There's no bad thing about Instagram. Twitter if they took down Twitter I'd be fine with that. Yeah I was looking at my Facebook memories like 11 years ago yesterday it was me taking a picture of the TV

because I was freaking out because my tweet was shown on ESPN. Whoa. Hell yes. Love that. Wait what tweet was it. It was replying the sports nation saying like who's the something team and I replied the Oklahoma Sooners and they show nice. That's freaking out. Yeah that's fucking huge. Yeah that's really cool. All right. My cool throne is extra innings so the man on second rule done for good. I love that rule. Fuck that. What. I liked it because of one overs overs were always alive because if you got to extra innings you usually get like a couple runs and two I don't know I don't I'm baseball games are long enough to begin with. It's great for a team that you're not rooting for for like a game you have no actual investment in. Excuse me besides the over but it is weird

that they announced it yesterday. You would think that a sport a professional sport would have made the announcement for how their postseason would be run earlier than a day before the postseason started. Correct. Billy your hot seat. My hot seat was also Facebook and Lane Kiffin but a little addition to Lane Kiffin story. The Alabama mascot at halftime came out with a popcorn suit on that they somehow fashioned between the time Lane Kiffin said that. It was just popcorn that they got at the stands. It was just a giant popcorn suit. So you had a giant elephant and a giant popcorn suit. Don't know how they did it pretty clever. Hot seat Lane Kiffin my cool. I bet elephants could eat more popcorn than any other animal. Just suck it up through that trunk. My cool throne

is Jim Harbaugh with all this talk about Urban Meyer and that story a Jim Harbaugh story came up about how he was interacting with female students at Michigan and instead of dancing with them or doing any type of Urban Meyer business he just started playing catch with them and was just beaming them with the football like taking three step drops and launching 40 yard rockets at these women. Urban Meyer in hitting them in the head until they the women were like I don't want to play catch with this guy anymore. This is ridiculous. Yeah that's a great story. That's actually a date in Jim Harbaugh's mind. That counts as dates one two and three. If you go out in the back that's date one you throw you catch a football that's date two and then he throws it so hard it goes

between your hands hits you in your head and knocks you over. That's the third date. My other cool throne was the Kentucky quarterback Will Leviss. He was on TikTok putting mayonnaise and coffee. Everyone was like if we lose to Florida this is why because our quarterback drinks mayonnaise with his coffee or coffee yeah mayonnaise with his coffee. I love the way you say mayonnaise. Weirdest thing ever. Anyway they won and Will Leviss went to TikTok to stunt on everybody. Yeah he's just doing this shit to troll people. Yeah it's a banana yeah. If you see the TikTok it like cuts away it's very clearly staged because he's trying to fuck with people. I love it. Yeah it's great. Will Leviss come on the show. I heard he's made WL. Oh sweet. Shout out him. All right thank

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So go check it out. We're very excited to have you on. Very excited to have you here. I don't even know where you are an intimidating guy. I don't really know where to start. I have met you before. I told you the story before that I thought you were going to smack my friend. Um, but it is great to have you here. Uh, let's start with, let's start with the cooking show. Let's start with the cooking show. Yeah. Let's talk cooking show. Oh man. So the cooking thing has been, that's been something in my heart for years. Um, you know, just making people happy. When you're cooking, you got to cook with some soul. Got to cook from the heart. And that's how I played on the court with, you know, without a heart and trying to do the right thing for my

teammates and people around me. And, uh, it just took off. I just, I'm real picky, you know, with food and places I go eat. I send myself back about 80, 90% of the time because they want to do a day way. They ask, can they take your order? But when you give them your order, they don't bring your order back. Correct. That's why I sent it back. But, uh, now I love cooking. I do a lot for the charity skit roll. I did a Nashville cleave and all the different inner city stuff. Um, just, you know, a lot of private events for a lot of celebrities and, and my, my, uh, producing crew, uh, for, for us, for a network, I've been knowing them for a while and, uh, we just got together and said, we got to do this. So does anybody ever try to send food

back to you? Uh, only one time I was doing a cafe Oakley in the city about 12 years ago. And Jason William and myself were trying to produce a show. We had like Walter Barrett, John Stocks, some kids, and John wanted to put some salt on some. I'm like, John, you don't put, you put some salt on them or put some salt on your head. That's all the time, but I'm pretty good in the kitchen. So where do you like to make? Uh, I'm the self. So I'm the best dish on the menu. So I try to please you. And, um, I get, I do a lot of experiments. Like I just did one with Victor Green. He's played with the Jets. He had a golf tournament yesterday. So they auctioned me off, uh, OJ Anderson and, uh,

you know, Cross, he's played tight in for the Giants. So they auctioned me off and, um, we got three dinners for, you know, like people, but they bought three different individual experiments. So basically all the money goes to kids for college. But anyway, we sold three experiments yesterday for like 40,000. So basically I lend my name to charities every year. They auction me off or how much are they raised? It goes for a kid to get to college and all that. But, um, that's been a real successful for the foundation because they can get 30,000 off Oakley in one day. And people were high spec this guy to cook and he can raise 30,000 for, for a charity. So, um, I've been doing a lot of that. That's awesome. So, so we're taping this

obviously in our studio. We love having in, in, uh, person interviews where across the street from the Mecca from Madison square garden, where, where is that relationship at right now? Still across the street from one another. Okay. All right. So it's good that we're on this side of the street. Right. Yeah. It's, yeah, we still cross the street from one another. It's on them. And then to man up and, you know, as they say, I'm a leader and I've been trying to lead the whole time, but they turned me down. So I'm not really on them a lot because I know I haven't done nothing wrong. I didn't do nothing wrong that night. It's just a lot of BS. And when you get, when you get involved with a control freak, that's what happened with a lot of money, but I'm going to try to

control them and let them know that money can't buy me. Yes. I love that. I love that you're, you're, uh, a man of principle and you're not going to, you know, should be like, all right, you can have me back and, and not say sorry. What though, the Knicks this past year, it did feel like they were kind of back. I like, were you rooting for them? Are you watching these games and being like, man, it is fun that Madison square garden is back. The fans though, we had my back. I had the fans back cause I know they want to see them win. And they just about that guy who sits baseline with four or five belongs beside him in a kazoo. These fans, these fans been, you know, brown before me, when I got here after me,

they want to just see a winning team product on the court. Um, and I think that Tibidore and the New Greek, you know, roles and all their crew came in and changed it around, but don't let it be full goals. Don't be good one year and go bad in nature. So hope they can stay in the top four or five and add on a couple of pieces and we can see what happened a couple of years. You never know, but, um, it's just that guys sit cool aside. It's the problem. You show up to one of his concerts in the back. You just, just stand there. I think somebody's, he got someone threw off a concert, you know, because they said something to him. So he real sensitive. I don't know how he live, survive in New York citizens that he is. It's, you know, this is a tough minded city. He just,

like they say, I mean, somebody gave you everything in life. So I guess you could be like that. Yeah. There's been an ongoing, ongoing debate right now. I guess the next, they want to retire your Jersey and your Jersey should be retired. It should be in the rafters, but I understand your perspective. You don't want your Jersey. You don't want people to have to pay money to go see your Jersey. Hang outside with the flag, you know, let the better people who ride pass benefit, not the guy who sit courtside. And, um, I would want to put him on that flag. I would see him raise the flag with me in the same day side by side. I'm going to pull him up with the flag. Your Jersey should be displayed for the public, for the people. Oh, no doubt. I mean, that's who

love me. And he don't love me. Care for me. Cause, cause what happened if he did, well, what happened that night? Wouldn't it, wouldn't it happen? Have you, have you thought about slapping him? I did a new Orleans about 2014 All-Star game. I tried to shake his hand. He, um, this guy West, a world West was with him and me, LeBron, his crew, Maverick was outside playing Blackjack and West came and came on to speak to everybody. I don't think the rich man, you know, the rich from Cleveland and shake his hand, someone's going on. But, um, he said, Oh, you know, the owner of the Knicks, but I said, Oh yeah. So we walked around the corner. I had a couple

of people with me. We went around there. So other people seeing the same thing. So he says, Mr. Dolan is Mr. Oakley. He said, I met him before he wouldn't turn around and embrace me. And I said in many interviews, I saw, I wanted to hit him in his head right there. Yeah. I should have maybe throw a parade for him. I would have had a case. This other shit he called in the garden. Wasn't a case. I think you would have, I mean, Knicks fans already love you. I think it would have gone to a next level if you had slapped him. What, when did, uh, you realize that like slapping another man was pretty much the most like alpha thing you could ever do? Cause you are known for the slap. Right. Well, that's Mike Barkley.

Yeah. Can you tell that story? Was that a lockout? It wasn't a story. It was just something he talked to much. And I told him next time I see him and, and I walked up to him like I did what I said I was going to do. And you said that you, he's got to change his name, right? Uh, no, I told him, don't say no Chuck or Charles or Chris or whoever began with a C. So you can say somebody named Dick Harris, you know, no C's. So why, you know, but no, you know, Charles, he just saw his great play all night. It gets me wrong with that, but you just, he think he know everything and don't know. Everybody I talked to played with them. They hated him because he, he wasn't a leading. He was a guy always propped himself for his own self. And you know, he went to Phoenix

with the Houston and they didn't like him and Philly and they bring him back because he's, you know, everybody would bring this little average back. You know, he's a celebrity. They drafted him in the top five pick. You know, he played well there, but he didn't get a ring. I didn't get a ring call. My long to get a ring, a passion to get a ring. So we all in the same bag. All the thing he got was just, he got more money than I did. Yeah. Yeah. Is there something that, that somebody can say that'll just like, that'll set you off? And you know, okay, now I don't like this guy. Like, is it what line has to cross? I mean, you got, the thing ain't got to be, you know, to be in the streets, you got to be able to control yourself and hold yourself.

So it's just like, you know, you give people, you know, like the time over the thought elbow me in the face. He did the first time. The next time I had to, you know, I had to let him know I was, I was on the oak tree. Yeah. I feel like you've probably slapped a lot of your friends. Just like, it's not like a big thing. Just like, keep them in check. Maybe like a dog. Me. No, no, I can't cover them. I don't know dog, but I mean, I don't really have to the problem. I mean, just sometimes, you know, think, you know, like water, sometimes you turn hot water, don't take a while to get hot. So, you know, it happens. Wow. So I, uh, from a basketball perspective, uh, I love guys who are great rebounders. I

just love it. I think it's, I think it's one of those things that rebounding, there's a lot of skill, but it's also just wanting it more than the next guy. What, what made you such a great rebounder? Is there a art to it? Is there something that well made you different? I mean, a guy do not like Dennis Rodman. I mean, by listening to the, that last day and seeing some of the things he was saying about rebound and seeing, he was really an art to it. I never seen someone talk about, you know, most of them alone was the best, but the way he talked about rebound and my thing was, you got to know who on your team and know the, you know, the type of, you know, do they shoot a high shot, straight line shot? I mean, it's a lot of stuff. You know,

the rebounds that you have to do, but the way he did it, never heard of people. He used to watch just play after play. I never did that. I watched tapes and stuff, but, uh, it's, it's a lot of hard work and that's why you only find a lot of specials like Dennis, everybody, you know, Ben Wallace was a little different. He had, um, you know, he got rebounds, but I said more of the special type was, you know, I'd be real with it. Dennis Rodman, um, but Moses was the best over our rebound. Yeah. I, I, there's just something about, I think it's the fact that rebounding, uh, like if you, if a guy hustles and gets a rebound and really does it, like, you know, he gets a guy out of position or he box out, it's just, it's, it's like an added,

almost boost to the team where it's like extra shots, extra confidence, everything kind of like, they're like, when you're watching basketball, I guess the best way to describe it, I'm, I'm now rambling, but the best possessions are when a team will get like two or three opponents of rebounds and they almost sucked the wheel out of the deep. Yeah. He was the type of guy. I mean, I said, you know, I got a lot of credit, but, uh, uh, he was, he was a worker, though. I mean, he never got tired. He's this guy, you know, uh, you don't find too many guys after playing 35, 40 minutes of the game. They didn't go do hour on the bike. So all he did was rebound. So, you know, he was, he was good. And like I said, Moses, you know, myself, um, Michael Cage,

you know, he beat me out the year by his teammate, tap him to rebounds. He went to hustle, got to rebounds. A lot of guys can rebound. A lot of guys don't hustle to the ball. Yeah. So yeah, that's fine. You know, I was, did this for like that myself and a lot of guys just wait for it to come off the rim, long rebounds or dive. I think dinner dives a lot on the floor just to be dived. I died to get for a reason. Right. So he, he wanted to act with it, but I, you know, I, you know, I just, you know, took a lot of charge, hit a lot of floor, you know, so. Yeah. The tough, the tough game. I mean, we, I think it's kind of talked about ad nauseam about the game, how much it's changed. Do you think a young Charles Oakley in today's game, like,

what does that look like? I would look the same. Yeah. It'll be really easy. I probably get 2020. I mean, one thing about rebound now is the field a little bit, so it's probably down four, three or four percent than when we played. Yeah. So it's a lot more. It means eight to 10 more rebounds. Yeah. More three pointers being taken. So that means maybe more rebound opportunities for you. Well, just period. They can't shoot really. Yeah. I mean, the shooting is bad. You know, who do you think is the toughest guy in the league right now? Tough guy in the league. Well, Serimon? I don't know who tough. I mean, I ain't that was, I ain't seen a fight. I see it by the

hug and kissing. Yeah. So I can't put it out there. I mean, maybe Tucker. Okay. Tucker. Oh, yeah. He's a great Tucker. Yeah. Tucker. Yeah. I mean, I like the way he played and he got up in KD facing back down. You know, I like KD, but I like Tucker. I give it, I'm gonna give it to Tucker. Then maybe I'm gonna give it to Draymon because he'd be punk and big guys. So guy gave him his props. Yeah. That's Alex Caruso. Tough guy. Oh, he's a play for the Lakers. Yeah. And he ain't in Chicago. Yeah. I like the answer. PJ Tucker. I don't know too many light-skinned guys. PJ Tucker is one of those guys that even though like Kevin Durant scored a ton of points in that series in the second round, right? He still made his life harder and it's like that, that ability

to at least like, Hey, you're still going to score. Kevin Durant is still going to be the best score in the league, but he's going to make it harder. Right. When you make it harder, but I think like we used to play the bull, you know, keep Mike under four, under 30, you know, Mike Tech, Carmelon, he averaged 28, 30 keeping, you know, keep, you keep somebody eight, 10 points below the average, you did your job. It's hard to sit down the guy going to get the ball 25 times a game. Right. He's just not going to do it. It's not going to happen. Who is the toughest guy for you to guard? Outright tough. I mean, I mean, when we play, guys got calls like Carmelon, you know, I used to call him the male man who couldn't deliver it on Saturday and Sunday. Kat McKell had to open on the

boss and got all the calls. So they can check, you know, I just love to play can check, you know, because check to my 10, 10 guys on my list, I want to get in the rain with and he's an I was number one. I said, surprising, huh? I've been in the rain with you twice. You ain't do nothing. So no, but we're like defending against Shaq because he doesn't move around that much. You know, he just big, but think about Shaq lower guy, lower gravel guys can check him because he can't feel you when you tall, he can spend all you do. You know, you see all his highlight, he dunking on guys, six, 10s, you know, seven foot, he don't dunk on smaller guys. Yeah. What, uh, so you mentioned the last dance. Obviously you were on the bulls when MJ is on the, you know,

starting his career. Scotty Pippin gets drafted. You get traded when you were on that bulls team before they start winning championships. Did you know like Michael Jordan just, he's better than everyone. He's different. He's like, this is, this is going to be something that will change the league. Oh, you can see the growth. I mean, even from his rookie year, I mean, when he did, uh, down the court and playing with some guys who had a lot of talent, and he just, he just, he just was signing. And then when I got there, my first year, and you know, he was just, you can see he was just going up here. He was always having 27, 28, 30, 30, you know, he just kept climbing, you know, when playing against Detroit, you know, everybody seemed like to be

a champion or be a guy who can take over when you need to go through adversity. So he went through his adversity with Detroit and all this and that had the bad boys. I mean, they just give people names because I don't think Detroit, I ain't never seen none of the guys in the fight. You know, Lambeer got in the fight with Barkley, like two sisters fight. So, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. I mean, I mean, Mahorn was kind of a, no, none of them. We would you say, actually, would you say, maybe Isaiah Thomas, he was maybe the toughest guy on the whole team and he's obviously the smallest. He the sneakiest one. Yeah. But, uh, Jeffrey, I can, I can be kidding guys like Jeff really made Rick Mahorn in Washington. Now, Jeff really was tough.

Okay. What about later on in MJ's career? So you end up teaming back up with him on the Wizards later on. That was just for, you know, ride through the park and ride on the boat, get a paycheck, you know, ride to the game with me, you know, ride on the plane with him. Yeah. I remember when you signed with the Wizards, it was like, it was like, let's be honest here. They signed Charles Oakley because MJ needs a buddy on the team. He needs somebody to have his back. This is what they tried to say. He brought me in so I can, you know, Kwame, this and that. It was a lot of stuff with the MJ and Kwame story and they didn't want to pick him and they picked him and they didn't really want him. So, you know, it was,

it was fun though, because that was, you know, that next year is his 40th birthday in D.C. And I cook twice for like 40 people, two nights in a row. We got snowed in and couldn't nobody get out but Donald Trump. I wonder why. So in my book, I said he must have called Poo. What was that like though? Because you guys were obviously both towards the end of your careers, respectively. You've had a lot of success. You've played on some great teams before and then you're on the Washington Wizards who are not exactly a franchise with a great reason history. The good thing about it was we were veterans, but we were the first one that practiced every day. We didn't like, you know, the younger, you know, they started changing shift for the

younger guys and, you know, always like, well, the veterans and his itinerant and this and that. So with the Jerry House and Michael thing was, you know, it was, it was, you know, Michael never back down. So Jerry was like, you know, in practice, it was like, you know, Michael Love, that's his best game because if he can do it in practice, he'll get away with it in game. So they was getting into it in practice and just in that, then some story came out about Jerry was upset with Doug because Doug then, you know, passed the torch. Like Michael, his time is up. He got a jury zone, his time is not above the stack house. So maybe your time is up because they, even though you was in Washington, you might be younger and more fresh of 23. You're going to obviously,

no matter what he do. Yeah. So yeah. So like along that same line, you know, watching the last dance and, and seeing MJ and, and those videos, like he pushes his teammates to a level that in today's standards, people would probably be like, Oh, that's bullying, which is, but he, it seemed like most guys or the majority of guys that stuck with the bulls and stuck, stuck with MJ bought in because they knew that he's always pushing himself to far, far greater lengths than, than he asks anyone else. So is that fair? That's fair. But my thing with it, I tell MJ all this fucking time, I said, you play with a lot of bum garbage guys. I said, whenever it rain, they should come and dry your car. When it snow, they should come and do your driveway.

If you need, if you, if you need to ride somewhere, it should, all the bums you play with should be on speed dial. All of them should be, if MJ called, but I think in last dance, you know, Scottie got a little, you know, offended by a lot of things that happened, you know, with, you know, seeing this story. He didn't, he didn't want to go in the game because the coup cause this and that. I told Scottie, you know, I talked to Scottie all the time too. I talked to Mike. So I told Scottie went for this, you know, your paycheck was jaded. Why y'all so tough on Jerry? Jerry didn't write the paycheck. Jerry was a scapegoat. Jerry was there. He did a great job of putting the team together. Y'all won six championship and

they don't want to give him no credit, but, you know, he's a small guy, you know, small guys get their complex. So I said, Scottie, it wasn't Jerry. It was Jerry rhinestyle. The checks that Jerry, Jerry was a scapegoat, but Jerry rhinestyle put names on, but they, you know, a couple other things. So he, you know, so he came out, he came out with a book too. He came out with a liquor line and a popcorn line. So he's doing a lot of stuff, but Mike just, you know, Mike and in the, in the last day and Mike, you know, he said he had the pass. So how he couldn't lose. He ain't gonna lose it. He's gonna make a little MJ. So a lot of guys took like Gary Payne. He's like, I'm not worried about Gary Payne. So I thought

Gary Payne probably one of the best defenders in the league. You know what I'm gonna say? Okay, motherfucker. You feel, you got the last word in, but Mike they was like, I didn't make them do the interview. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, Hey, y'all, you know, I'm Michael Jordan. Yeah. So right now, if, if, if you get a call from Michael Jordan and he's about to get jumped outside of gas station, how quickly are you on a flight down there? I'm a good call. F was one. Yeah. So obviously MJ, one of the most famous guys in the world and he's got a small circle. How have you, like you, you've been in his circle from, from day one, 86. Yeah. So who's a better gambler? You were MJ. He got more money.

Yeah. Take more chances. Okay. Okay. And now do you ever, are you a golfer? He a better golfer. Yeah. Keep talking sports. I mean, this is how you stay in his circle, by the way. You just saying he's better. No, no, no, I don't, I'm a grown man. I put my pants on like he put them on. He know it and he know how to put them on. Slap meter. PFT had the slap meter a little higher earlier. I think I'm now on the slide. No, I'm not, I'm not a groupie. Okay. Why are you for him a groupie? So your friendship with him, I mean, it's stand, you know, the test of time. Is it, I got a better test of time for you. He doing the forward in my book. There we go. So he might, he liked being around me too. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it has to be

like your friendship, obviously mean something to him. No, we good. We don't, we don't get into that. I don't have to agree with him. I don't agree with him all the time anyway. Yeah. I mean, I got opinion. I mean, what the fuck? Right. What is it? Do you think about about Charles Oakley that makes you a guy that people trust that people people like to have around the inside? I've been the same way since I was 10 years old, my grandfather until now. And I run, I run a straight line. I don't bullshit people. I don't have to bullshit people. I tell the truth. I mean, you like it or not, but you ask me, of course, I'm gonna give you the best answers that I think that people want to hear not not something to the press one here, the people who buy in the

paper who listen to the nation's, I mean, the station. So my thing is I just, I just, I mean, honest, you know, you gotta be honest and like, it's too many fake people out here. And that's what's wrong now. People's faking it. The dude is faking to do that. And that's why the pandemic is, you know, it's going on. We not handling that the right way. You know, we should have been took care of in a more way that now we just trying to, you know, just make it and make it the whole country look bad. Yeah. What, um, who's the guy that you played against that you respected the most in terms of like a toughness, like, you know, we're on the same level. I don't know about that. No other play I played against. I ain't respect none of them really.

Really? No. I mean, it might have been better than me, but I wanted to respect it. Right. No, they know they had a fight. I might not be a top 10 rank, but when you get, I get in the ring, I'm gonna feel like one. Yeah. So there was never a guy that you were ever even like a second of a hesitation of like, I don't know. This guy's pretty strong. No, no, no. I mean, that's got to be a good feeling. I don't think about that. I just know what I got to do when I get on the court. I had to play hard. I got to defend my teammates. I got to let them know it's not going to be no cakewalk in this lane. So I ain't worried about none of them guys. I'll tell you one guy that got the best of you on the court and I was just score more points. No, no, I'm talking physically.

He escaped your grasp. Jeff Van Gundy. Yeah. In the brawl, you try, you had to hold him back. You messed up his hair a little bit, but he's slippery. He's wiggly. Wiggled like out of your arms. Can you, can you walk us through like what happened in that fight when it was, you know, Zo and, and when they got it, you know, something about a girl, I think, and I don't know who got the last kiss, but it was a fight and my teammate go, I go. That's what I do. That's, I see. I think that like reading all the stories and, and reading about guys who played with you, I think that's my favorite part about you is that everyone to a man is like, if I ever was, if anyone ever stepped to me, I just knew Charles Oakley was right behind me right away. And that's a teammate. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm getting me a tag. So oak, oak for president oak for press. I mean, I love Brian said that. Um, what, what was, uh, what made Pat Riley such a great coach? Uh, I guess LA talent in New York, uh, hard work talent. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When you, when you got Kareem Magic Cooper, by Scott, Michael, Tom, Michael's coupe, Michael Thompson. And I mean, I mean, James worry. So New York, you come, you get one Hall of Famer. I mean, I guess he Hall of Fame, Patrick Hall. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But anyway, that was part of the battle. But us, we just had to take on a different way of, um, not having talent or playing just tough and strong mind every night. You know, but he's, he's a real, he's, uh, he stay on you. He work you.

Uh, he gonna get, you're gonna get a chance to win with his system, but some guys not built for the system. Yeah. Some guys, we, you know, he's Pat Riley. He can, he can give you the pet talks. He can get you going and some guys need, I didn't need that. Cause I, like I said, I knew if it's snowing, I got a snow fly. I'm gonna go snow to fly, go through the snow. So a lot of guys need that extra boost. I didn't need that. So who was your favorite coach to play for? Butch Carter in Toronto. I mean, cause he was just, he was, he can get a lot of credit. He didn't coach a lot of years, but when he was on the court, he made everybody game so easy. Vince Trace, all them guys, he put you, you give, you always get your two plays. So if you

ain't no plays, you couldn't play for Butch. But anyway, so we always, uh, had a chance and he put you in like Trace and Vince, he dropped something, never put him in something that would take him out of their skill level. And that's, you know, you know, Pat, you know, Pat Riley, you know, you got Hall of Fame, you got Reigns, he's in championship, but you think about the team they coached, they always had three or four, all, you know, all stars Hall of Fame. So when you got less talent, what can you do? What could Pat Riley do with the Knicks? I mean, not Pat Riley, Phil Jackson, even though he was upstairs, but you stood your name is on, you're a part of, you're the president. So they look for you to get the guys in here to

bill, you know, he failed. He gave me just for the money. It's like going fishing. Yeah. You know, smoke a joint or something. That's all he wanted to do. Yeah. Don't blame him, honestly. And he's, I ain't mad at him. Not mad, but upset. But when the thing happened to God, he ran to me. Oh, what happened? What happened? It's 20 other people. You're gonna run to me. What happened? Go after a man down there with the four blondes. You almost, you almost fought your way through it. I remember I heard a story that you once got jumped in a Vegas pool by seven dudes and you, and you, and you fought your way out of it.

Fought my way out of it. What happened there? I ain't had no choice. What? They just jumped you for no reason? Yeah. Some BS. It's like, like, it happened a lot while I was in New York for some reason. Like I go to part of me and may seem like the security guard. They always wanted to, you know, seem like their chest got bigger when I walked up. Like, you know, they just always gave me, not a lot, but, you know, I handle my business, but they always wanted like, you know, like, damn, here come Oak. Yeah. Like, okay, we, it's like, we're going to fight. Like, it was, it was just crazy. But in Vegas, you know, I got a couple of times was crazy, but, but in New York, me and Mace have a couple

of issues here and there, but we, you know, Well, I feel like if Charles Oakley walks into a club and you think that you're a tough guy, like somebody sees you and they think to themselves, like, Hey, this is like, this is like the final boss. If I can, if I can beat up Charles Oakley, then nobody can ever say anything else. They never beat me up. So they ain't, they, they had a bad time. They never got the chance. They never, no, it's a couple of times happening. It was a couple of beatdown tabling the green. Me and Mace, we turned it out one night. I love it. I have a story that I want you to confirm or deny. There's a story that you once took a player's newborn out of his hand so that you

could slap him. No, we just went, no, I didn't do that. I wouldn't do that. So what was it? That's a false story of full, fully false. Somebody just wanted to use my name to try to get themselves into some kind of club or something. Probably. I love that. That's a story though that I believe that's not a good story to be out. I wouldn't want that on my record. Okay. That one, take that out off your record. That's, that's a bad one. Yeah. Take that off the record. It might be a hundred story. I'm 99% right. And that's the one story is wrong. Okay. Take that one off the record. What about this one? The Tyrone Hill story that you said with that is right. Yes. So he owed you $50,000 and he only paid you 10. And then every time

you guys played each other, you just chuck a ball at his head and lay up. I add a little more to it. So basically to fill it up in the playoff, right? So I guess, I'm going to tell you another, I'm going to tell you this and you're going to be like, so we plan to fill it during the season, right? So we get, we go to the locker room, right? Somebody sent me some flowers. So I look at the flower, blah, blah, blah. So I see the ball board for Philly, because you know, they do both the locker room. They go back and forth. So I told my name off to Tyrone here from Charles Oakley. I gave the ball board $100. I said, put these in the locker and let me know when he walked in. So he came back about 30 minutes later. He just walked in and I said, did you do the ass? He said,

yes. I said, do you watch him? He said, yes. He started reading it. And then he said, he started coughing. So then he said, after he read, he started coughing and the ball board said he kept coughing and he told the team he was sitting with a little brother so he went back home. That's fantastic. So I guess if you were playing the NBA today, do you think that your game, your skill set right now, you said 20 points, 20 rebounds a game. Is there a player right now that you think kind of matches up to what your skill set was that's taking advantage of, like you said, the more missed shots. I mean, I feel as tough as I get, but he wasn't a rebound. He's just a guy who just, he just got a chance to play and he, Spido three in Houston and he's a warrior.

But no, I mean, I can, you know, offense rebound, I can hit the mid-range and I can make my, key is I can make my free throws. So do you think the fact that like people aren't shooting as many mid-range jumpers in practice, that's why a lot of the great players aren't so great from the foul line? No, ain't got nothing to do with it. Like this is like when I play, I ain't touched the ball maybe like from a teammate, maybe five, four or five times. Most of my points came off as a rebound putback. So that's just all into the individual. You know, you got to have a touch, you know, like playing ping pong and stuff and tennis and it's about having a feel and touch. So that's why a lot of, I did other things that just, you know, I played football while I was coming up,

you know, so, but free throw is all in your mind. You just got to practice. Yeah. I mean, I went great in college, but I got it from 68, 70 in college to 80, 85 and NBA. So I mean, I worked on it. Yeah. What, um, so we mentioned your book that Michael Jordan is writing the forward. So it's coming out in February. Yes. It's the last enforcer. Yeah. The last enforcer on Amazon pre-sale right now. So you can get, you order now and get out the new years. Okay. So order it right now. You said, uh, you, everyone's heard the B and C stories, the A stories are going to be in the book. Uh, I, well, this is going to be closer to not see it, but closer to a, but then another book going to come out after this one, a plus a plus. There we go. Can you give us an A

story? And if it's a good A story, people have to legally, you have to go buy the book. So I'm telling them our fans will do anything we say. So if you give us a good A story, they'll go buy the book. Good A story. Um, all of them is A's. So it's just, they got to get the book. I mean, I hate to say one story. Give us a Patrick Ewing story. I don't want to talk about that. Okay. They ain't no story. Uh, give us a newspaper you ordered. Don't come. Um, what about, uh, what about another, what about a gambling story on a plane or with MJ? What's the most you've seen MJ gamble in the night? Were you with him in Atlantic city? Uh, not this time. Okay. Not that time. Really? I mean, like I said, when you get that kind of

money, it's no, it's no limit. It's just people want to like have something to just have some MJ was in Atlanta city. You know, we lost that series because I think more you write about it, more that it feed him, because if you watched the last dance and it's all things, it was about things, people, you know, the feed, he feed off of stuff. You talk about him. He did this, didn't he? So my thing is, you know, some people, you mess with some people. Right. It like a bully pick on the wrong guy and get his ass worked. Right. So that's what MJ do. So if, so if you're hanging out with MJ right now and you guys are gambling and you start talking shit to him, uh, you just know that he's going to like, it's, it's still has

that all the time talk shit to him. He can't beat me up. Right. I mean, that's different. I mean, it's something you can troll on the basketball court, but I mean, I don't just talk. See, we don't just talk shit to him on the court. He know me. If he says something wrong to me, I might hit him. He says something. Okay. I'll give you a prime example. So I was at the golf course two and a half months ago and, um, you know, it's 20 people sitting at this table, sitting at that table. So I walk in, he said, what's up, motherfucker? I said, what's up, motherfucker? So I had to put my shoes on. He jumped me on my back and I flipped him and, and I said, yeah, motherfucker, get still here. I'm the boss. You're the boss of this club. I'm the boss of Oakley.

So, and as I flipped the mobile and he looked up at everybody, and nobody's gonna help me. They saw eating like this. So it was funny what happened. We always kid around. So, you know, we just, we, we got that thing that don't matter what we do, we see when he's spanking me, I smack him, we still tight. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Is he your best friend? Yeah. That's pretty cool. No, no, I'm just saying, you know, he's the best friend since like, you know, once I got to the league, not going up, I got some other guys and Cleveland, we cool, this and that. But yeah, for it's like, for alone, Jeff is like last 30 years plus. Yeah. I mean, anytime I call him, he call me a bag answer. I mean, you know, he was just upset about what happened in the garden

and I just told him the man was wrong. And, you know, we, I flew down the next another time in Vegas. I'll tell you that. So that incident was they broke my wrist. So they call MJ like four o'clock in the morning because some had happened. This and that is always something. So they call him like, I'm like, okay, well, he called me. What the fuck going on? I said, man, it was an incident. I said, who called you? You should know what happened about now they call you calling me. So it means somebody must have called you. I ain't called you. So by the way, they messed my wrist up. I go to a desert in a hospital, you know, x-ray show with two fragile bones. They put a cast on. So the next day I fly to MJ house having a little party. I get there.

He said, yeah, motherfucker, let me sign your cast. I said, motherfucker, you ain't signing my fucking cast. He said, because, you know, it was a purple cast. He's a cute old. Yeah. I said, no, motherfucker, you should have fly that helped me out. I would have had a broken wrist. But no, that's my man, though. He always kept in the back for me. And I'm glad I was a part of him. And, you know, when we had an issue, I was there for him. Yeah. That's probably the first time he's offered to sign an autograph in like 50 years. Yeah. He gets requested from so many people and you're like, no, I don't want you. So you're true. Yeah. High demand. Yeah. Yes. That's awesome though. I mean, I think having Charles Oakley as a best friend would be pretty cool. Yeah. More rolling around.

I mean, you know, he made some waves for me and, you know, a lot of people always still come up to me. Are you still buying off EMJ? I say the check still cash. I'm curious. What's the difference between, at least when you played between a tough player and a dirty player? Where's that line? A dirty player when he do something more than once to me. I give him, I give you a freebie. Yeah. The second one that I'm taking charge. So someone like elbows you in the head. You're like, all right, you get one. Yeah, that's it. No matter what he do, you get one. And how many times does someone just take that one and they're like, okay, thank you, Mr. Oakley. I will not do another one. Only guy who did it once and he did it second time almost tried to

catch himself was over thought. Okay. I teed off on him. I mean, because you hit me in the face. My thing is almost, you almost got to check yourself out the game because if it happens again, I'm taking over. Right. But no, it ain't never happened too often though. Yeah. What do you, where does LeBron rank all time? MJ won LeBron too. Okay. I like those rankings. Yeah. I mean, they always want to throw a sentence 30. So we really have to give it to probably Karim a shack. Yeah. Karim and then maybe magic. I don't go past me. You don't go past three. I like that. I got KD. I got KD up there. Really? Yeah. I mean, he is, I got KD up there. They tell, I always tell my bird is not betting KD. What about Wilt? I wasn't even born. Yeah. I was, you know,

Wilt might be better than all of them, but he was, he was playing because everybody's five, six, five, six, six. So KD is like, I don't, I don't think we'll ever see someone, obviously you can never say never, but he's seven feet. I know he says he's not. He's seven feet and his ability to score and his ability to dribble and do everything is like so incredibly out of this world. Why do they keep messing with KD? I mean, Kyrie, I mean, these reporters going to have to get over these guys is who they are and they're not going to change. And, you know, like press first day of camp yesterday, they went to KD and Kyrie. I mean, they've been going back and forth time and Jerry. Who was that? Used to be on a late night show.

David Letterman asked KD. How they let David Letterman? That's embarrassing though. I know they try to do all the stunts or all the publicity, trying to get all the headlines and news. You can't do that. I think they, they let David Letterman in to ask that question because they want it. They didn't want to have people focusing on Kyrie. So they're like, Hey, look, we're doing something fun. They need to stop playing all the Frank games. You don't play with these people life like that. So I mean, if we got 20 burning, let them have 20. Yeah. It's clicks and their, their relationship, you know, cells, you know, articles and podcasts. I mean, we're, we're part of the media. So it happens. We, we talk about LeBron all the time.

We talk about all the time. What? So talking about that team though, you were on a ton of teams, team chemistry. I contended is the most important thing in basketball. Like any other sport you can get by without having a tight team basketball. You need a tight team because it's only 12 guys. What was the one time where like you felt like a team that you were on the chemistry was falling apart and you had a part in being like, Hey, let's get back together guys. Toronto. Yeah. What happened there? It wouldn't even fall in the training camp. I haven't started. We had heard about butch had told everybody he sold everybody a dream and I heard about it right 10 minutes before we go out through a first day of training camp and I call a team meeting.

I said, everybody down. I said, but that butch ass in the middle. I make him go all the way around the circle and we dress everything. You didn't told everybody and sit in front of the team and once we hear everything from you now, we go out and practice as a team. Just had to get it together. Yeah. Yeah. Because a lot of coaches sell sell out guys. You tell them this then he'll hear tell that guy this and you know, like every fight was the best guy win. Right. But no, that's that was the one. That was one of the wild thing. Guys can believe I call the team me. Yeah. On the first day. First day. I love it. Because it's a it's a good way to start the season. You're being honest with everybody. Everyone's expectations are the same. The chemistry just

came like this. Yeah. We had veterans. That's what's been some traits for them. We just like this y'all team. We're going to do the dirty work. Dale D Brown. You just shoot the mugs. You the point guard. I mean, Captain Willis, Dale Davis, I mean, Anthony Davis. So we had good nucleus after that. Yeah. Is there what was the strangest part about moving up to Canada after so many years in the United States? I'm always fascinated to know like people that go play for the Raptors for the first time. It's got to be some like culture differences. Well, the crazy thing was to me, I was I was driving. I was coming from Cleveland and they stopped me at the border and something they said something on my record. You know, you can't have nothing. You can't say

you smoke a cigarette and throw it out the window over there. They'll send you back where you're coming from. So something was up. I don't know if it's misprinted or what they had me. I had to wait seven hours. They had to call the prime minutes to get me in. So my first day was bad. Yeah. But it's just different. I love it being there. It's clean and what used to be not a crime is like it's just like El Chicago with it now. It's bad, but it's grateful, great people and I mean, it's a great place to live. This has been awesome. We really appreciate your time. I try to be honest. Y'all got to bite me back with the book. When the book come out, I'm telling you. Can we get a B plus story? When you get the book and when I come back, you're going to be like

man. Why did you slap Charles Barkley? In the book or the other time? Both times. How many times have you slept? Let me ask a better question. How many times have you slept Charles Barkley? Well, off the court once, on the court a few other times, but it was just like I said, when he was saying, it was a lockout year. It's not always a lockout. Both of them, you know, it was a lockout. He said something. He just liked to talk and he had a guest that had a game in Atlanta city and he was down there. None of the New York guys know good. So he said none of them guys in New York. I'm playing in New York. So I'm taking it hard. When somebody's talking about a city, I mean, you're talking about me. You know, you can be a comedian, whoever you said

something about Cleveland, you're talking about me. I'm standing up for my place, city, New York, Cleveland. So when I'm in places, people talk, I said something to them. I don't care. That becomes a little problematic because you played in a lot of different cities. So you really can't say anything bad on a lot of cities. No, just Cleveland in New York. Okay. Okay. Not Chicago, not Toronto. Well, Chicago. Oh, yeah, Chicago. And Toronto. Yeah. Yeah. Don't say anything bad about it. Well, I got more, more, more of Cleveland, Chicago, New York. Toronto is a little different. Okay. Okay. Who's on your on-site list? I have no on-site list no more. James Nolan? No, I don't really talk about him. He doesn't

have to talk about. Yeah. When you got to have people around you just to somebody to see you, you ain't nothing to talk about. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So everyone go check out the show, October 7th on Fox Soul chopping it up with Oakley. You got to come back for the book. I will come back. That's a book. We're not book guys. I'm reading that book. I'm telling you, if this book, I ain't going to say what number it's going to do, but like I said, it's going to do, it ain't going to do Michael Jackson or Whitney Houston number, but we're going to do number. It would do better numbers. If you gave us an A story, if you gave us an A story, it'd do better numbers right now. We could tell everyone to buy it. This whole conversation

has been A. It has been A. It has been a fantastic conversation. I would much rather read Charles Oakley's book filled with A stories than a Michael Jackson book. I think you have better stories. You might have the best stories of anybody that's ever played in the NBA actually. A lot of guys, they not truthful. They just, they go with the flow. I just, I go with it. The main thing is some people just, they want to do it, but they scared to do it. What, what does this person might say? What did that person might say? No, just, I mean, my thing is that's why the book goes, I've been consistently all through my career. You know, you call me and we do interview. I'm going to give you the best answer that I can.

I ain't going to try to just get the right answer that, you know, the political, I'm going to give you the right answer. What about the time? So you poured an entire bottle of Jack Daniels on a teammate because he tried to hide the bottle. Yeah. That happened. Yeah. That's confirmed. Yeah. But you wasted the bottle even though he was hiding it from you. That was just, we were at one and we had a day off and, and the guy had said, oh, I kind of, you know, it was crazy how it happened. But T-Mack told us story. He should have checked in with me. I'm going to get T-Mack. Hey, when you go over here with some story, you guys call the boss, call the boss. Tell my stories. You know, I was the vet when I came

up there. I took care of you now. Yeah. Yeah. Don't let something get out of the house. Yeah. Now, when you were rookie, did any, any veteran ever try to like check you or keep you in place? Yeah. So I'm going to tell you, I'm going to tell you a story. All right. All right. Great. Here we go. So we was on the road in Chicago. I'm a rookie. We opened in Milwaukee. So I missed the first team bus, you know, so, you know, like, like a half hour before the next one. So I missed it and I wait for the next one. Bob, the first one on the last bus, but I got on first in the vest. Like, oh, look, what'd you do on this bus? I said, I missed the fucking bus. I mean, I came around the bus. Oh, yeah, you're going to have to pay for this. I'm saying to myself,

pay for what? So, okay, we go to the arena, get in. So I rushed in the locker room because I had to get tape because you had to get tape back there. So I run some, get on the table and you go to the other guys and when I went, shoot, then the vet come in, oh, you can't get tape right now. Tell me why you can't get tape. No, the vet, no, you've been here earlier. You want to get tape? I'm like, fuck that. So he said, okay, well, you're not going to get tape. I said, well, you're not going to get tape. Then Mark, Mark Farah was the trainer. He said, oh, you know what the vets do, they get first serve. I said, Mark, fuck you in the vet. I said, if you move me from the table, you can get tape. And he said, oh, you really got two more guys. That's

okay. That's all you got. So Mark said, oh, you got to get up. I said, now fuck you. So I took all the tape and threw it in the garbage. Ain't nobody get fucking tape. I love it. I do all the tape. How you like that? Not coming fuck with me. All right. Well, oh, this has been awesome. Appreciate it. We'll go check it out again. October 7th, 8 p.m. Eastern, uh, on Fox soul chopping up with Oakley and you'll be back for network. Yes. For us network and you'll be back for the book and this has been, uh, this has been awesome. We really appreciate it. I can't wait to come back. This is going to be, it's going to get better every time. Love it. Anytime you want to come. Yeah. We're on the

right side of the street. Anytime you want to come, we're on the right side of the street. Opposite of Madison square garden. So you're welcome here all the time. All right. We're going to have to set something up there. Yeah. We'll retire your jersey in this office. Anyone can come in and see it. 3% of the revenue. Okay. You drive hard. I'm in no position to negotiate with Charles. You can go get that from Josh Allen. He owes us. So we'll just do that. Yeah. Okay. Actually, don't do that. You're kidding at the bar. He'll give six percent. Thank you so much. Charles Oakley was brought to you by our friends over at Roman swipes. Most guys have tried different ways to last longer, but thinking about baseball doesn't

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completely different. Okay. We now welcome on our very good friend for a quick short update about Jacksonville. It is Pete Prisco. Why do you have to go to the height thing already? No, that wasn't, that actually wasn't the insult I was going to say. Pete Prisco is joining us from CBS Sports. He was a former Jacksonville beat writer. He knows the team inside and out. He also is a pervert. So it's the perfect guy to have on to talk Urban Meyer. What's going on? How, how big of an embarrassment is this? Is this going to end Urban Meyer's career in the NFL before the season's over? Well, it's an embarrassment because he didn't take the flight home. No coach stays behind unless there's a major incident or funeral or medical emergency or

something. You get on the plane and you go home. And if you want to go see your grandkids, you get on your private plane because you make a boatload of money and you go back or you fly them in. And you could have seen, you could have saw those kids the night before the game on Thursday. So that's a bad excuse. He just stayed behind. He went out and partied. And I think this is a problem for him. You saw the statement by Shad Khan saying he's got to regain the trust. To me, that statement says this, we're not firing you and paying you off. But I think it puts Urban Meyer in a position where maybe he would resign. Maybe they work out a little bit of a settlement. So it's a good point about staying behind. So if anyone doesn't know, I mean,

everyone knows the story now, but just to, to, to recap very quickly, they play the Bengals on Thursday night. The Jaguars go back to Jacksonville. Urban Meyer goes to Columbus to party it up on Friday. Have you ever heard of a coach just being like, all right team, I'll see you on Monday? No. I mean, you might say that on a Friday after you come back, you fly back with the team and say, Hey, look, you got the weekend off. We'll see on Monday, but you're going to be doing work. You might take half a day or a day in the weekend to go spend it with the family, but you're going to be back doing your work. It makes no sense. There's no reason for him to stay behind ever. And I've, I've asked around, I can't remember or recall any

situation other than maybe a funeral or something where a coach stayed behind and didn't fly back with his team. So in a weird way, I almost think it's worse for him that he lied about it. It sounds like he lied about to his team, to his players. And if he had just, I think if he got in front of his team and been like, Hey, listen, I was horny. There was this chick. I've seen her a couple of times. She asked me to stay behind. So I said, Okay, I went to the bar with her, got my dick grinded on for a while. I'm sorry. It'll never happen again. I think they probably would have had his back on that. They probably would have laughed about it and been like, Okay, we all make mistakes. I at least understand where you're coming from. But the fact that he said,

like, he told his team, I was at an event and a woman approached me so bad. And she was flirting with me and I didn't know what was going on at the time. Technically, she that woman is a grand child is someone someone's grandchild. But he was like, I was out with my grandchildren and a woman approached me. And she was dancing on me and I couldn't ignore her. That that when you lie about it to a group of guys who would be understanding, I think that does more damage because they're like, I can't trust a single word this guy's going to say. Yeah. And well, they dragged me to the dance floor and that didn't quite that wasn't what it looked like. And so yeah, those players are going, Yeah, coach, I don't believe it. And then he invokes his quarterback's name and his apology.

I mean, through but I had to warn him when he went to his bachelor party. I mean, come on, Patino. Yeah. Patino esque of like the something about these horny coaches, they like deflect so quickly to something else. So we're like, you know, you cover the league, you've you've been around the Jaguars for a very long time. Like, where does this, how does this play out? Is this going to be urban Meyer steps down in two days? Or is this going to be urban Meyer finds a way to keep coaching at the end of the year? Like on a scale of Bobby Petrino to Nick Saban, where's this going to end up? I think it's more Bobby Petrino than Nick Saban. I really do. I think this is bad, man. And it's not just because of this. There's been so many other things that

have gone on and inside the building where he gets into it with coaches and they don't respect him. They don't like him. They have game plan issues. He interrupts team meetings and position positional meetings. And so I just think that this is a bad the end, you know, look, you had to strike the conditioning coach he hired from Iowa bad luck. His special teams coordinator is no longer there when he hired him for whatever reasons. And I don't think he stood by him. So I think there's all kinds of issues there that this is just the last of them. Yeah. And when it comes to player trust, if your players don't trust you, you know, and you're not winning, it's going to it's going to go in a really bad direction. Yeah, you brought up the statement that Shag Khan released today

where he said that he has to regain our trust. I actually think the bigger part of that is saying he must regain our respect because that implies that right now Shag Khan does not respect Urban Meyer. And if you're Urban Meyer and you see that, you have to start thinking, okay, my days are numbered here. And I think he thinks his days are numbered. And I think they're going to try and work out a set. That's the way I look at it. I mean, if you're, if you fire him, you own 35 million or whatever you own, whatever salary, you know, and they're differing reports about his salary. But it's roughly 35 million, 35 to 40 million, you don't have that money. Because I don't think this is a moral, I don't think this is really a morals clause situation. I don't think this is,

you know, conduct detrimental to the team situation. Did he tell him he was going to stay behind you? We don't know the details of that. So I don't know if you could fire him with cause. But if you say to him, look, Urban, this isn't working out. After the season, the team's record is bad. I'm letting you go. Then why not just make it look good for him? Say, okay, I'll give you 10 million. You walk off into the sunset. I'll make one of the other guys an interim coach and then we'll go from there. And that's what I think is more like. Do you think Urban's heart was ever in this? Cause it feels like to me that he just took this job because it pays really well. He's, you know, got Florida ties. It's, it's something that almost something to do. Like the NFL, you can,

you can basically give it a shot and you know, you don't have to recruit and you have the first pick and all these things. Do you think Urban Meyer actually went into this job with like good intentions of, I want to be the coach for the Jaguars for the next 10 years and see them, you know, have success. I think he did, but then when he got the job, he realized the magnitude of it. It's entirely different. You know, it's not, it's not, you know, like the other day when he traded CJ Henderson and CJ Henderson's 10 games into his NFL career. Now CJ Henderson had an issue with him. He put him on, supposedly he put him on a bike in front of the team after he came back from COVID. He didn't like it. He didn't want to practice. So that's CJ Henderson's issues as well.

But then he mentions, I talk, I had a good conversation with CJ and his parents. Why on earth is an NFL coach calling parents and talking to parents? These are grown men. This is their job. They make their living playing football. And I think that's the disconnect for him. He doesn't understand college is one thing. The NFL is another. And until you learn that as a guy who's never been in the league, you're going to have failures. And I think that's where this is coming into play. Yeah. You heard it in training camp with the whole hustle and hydrate where he's yelling at guys to hustle to hydrate. That's like the big urban Meyer thing that he does in practice. And I would imagine everyone just rolled their eyes and they're like, are you

fucking kidding me? Why are you telling me that I have to like hustle up to get some water and then hustle back to practice? Well, and also he said at one point in camp, the players will play for the coach. And no, not on that, not in this level, they don't, they play for the green dollar. That's what they play for. It's all about the money. And once a coach figures that out, then he's okay, and he can move on. Look, it took Tom Coughlin, when he was the head coach, came in. He was an assistant coach in the NFL. He had been there before. So he understood what it took. These guys who've never been in the league, like Steve's Furrier was in the league, but he was never in the league coaching. Those guys have a different situation. It's tough to, the only guy that came

from college that was never in the league that really, Joe, I mean, Jimmy Johnson had great success and then he went in the league, but it's a tough transition dealing with the modern NFL player really is. And to me, this is almost as big a deal for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Like, it's on the front office for making this hire to begin with. Like the old, the story of the Scorpion, the frog where it's like the scorpion gets on the frog's back. Why'd you sting me? Oh, why'd you put your finger in my butthole? Well, because I'm Urban Meyer. That's what happened in Jacksonville. Like that, they should have known what we all knew going into this, which is Urban Meyer is going to try to coach in the NFL like he's coaching in college football.

And here's the other thing. If he does, they don't end up with the first overall pick. I don't think he goes back into coaching. That was the attraction of it. Trevor Larch was the guy. He brought him back. And I know he's had conversations with people about that. That's the reason he went back. And now they're in danger of ruining him if they don't fix it quickly. The kids special, their offense is outdated. They don't do a lot of things creatively with creativity and they also don't have much motion and much talent and speed outside. And so this kid is forced to do things. You saw it last week. He ran a fourth down. They ran an option run out of the shotgun on a fourth and goal from the inch. I mean, it's ridiculous. It's just a bad

situation. You can't ruin that kid. They got to get, they have to get a bright young offensive mind in there to coach him. And there are a lot of them out there. So that's one side of the question is like, what do the Jaguars do next? And nobody really has any faith after this hire that they're going to get the next one, right? But then the other side is Urban Meyer. Do you think that this would screw up Urban Meyer's reputation enough to the point where USC wouldn't even touch him? Possibly. And here's the other part of that is after this whole mess, does he even want to go back in the coach? Yeah. I mean, you know, college coaching is really a grind when it comes to recruiting. I just, you know, how did he recruit? That's

what I want to know. I mean, he's kind of socially a little socially awkward, it seems like. And the relationships you hear with people inside the building aren't exactly warm and fuzzy. So how does a guy like that recruit? How do you go into homes and get on Skypes and Zooms and recruit kids? I mean, that's, that's the question that, that I have a hard time figuring out. I think, you know, obviously recruiting is a dirty, yeah, it's a dirty game. So who knows, maybe that's how it worked out. But, well, I mean, he recruits, it's pretty simple how he recruits. He drops his three national championships on the table. And he's like, if you come play for me, you're going to, I mean, well, obviously the school helps too. Ohio State,

you know, it's, it's, it's easy to recruit for a school like Ohio State, because you're basically saying, this is a pipeline to the NFL. You're going to be on the prime time games. You're going to be in a facility that's state of the art. I, I do, do you think that he'll, he'll do any health stuff? I feel like that's the only thing we're missing here. Urban's gotta, gotta, gotta do a, maybe a collapse on the sideline real quick so that he gives himself a nice out. I hope it does. I think the better thing is to say, look, I've tried this. I have some issues. Clearly I have issues. You know, I think this is one of those situations where he has to do it that way. And, and, and, and take the payout for 10 million, then walk off into the sunset.

Damn. I could definitely see him saying like, I've got an addiction. I've got an addiction to getting horny. Not like a sex addiction, but he just enjoys, you know, he wouldn't say that. He would just, he, he will, he'll just say my migrants are back. Ow, my arm. He's like the old caddy shack. Yeah. He's not going to say that. There's no way he's saying that. I mean, then, then, then you just, yeah, you're just, you're just tainted. No way. No, no, no, no. He will not say that, but, but there are ways to get out of it. And here's the other thing, you know, the other, from his family standpoint, what do they want him to do? I mean, well, that's the issue. I think, I think his wife actually wanted him to go out and get a little, you know,

graze up on some ass and get his confidence. Yeah. I think so. I think that it's a possibility. That was true. But from what I've read about this, after the fact, so urban still lying about, he still hasn't finished lying about what happened. The girl that was in question, he knows her. They've worked together in the past. It's not like it was a random person that called him over and started grinding on him. How do you know that? Because I've done some deep digging on the internet, Pete. There's some, there's a lot of people who don't like Urban Meyer have written a lot of articles. I read some stuff too. It's like, it's very, I mean, it's public. Yeah. It's public. He's tagged her in pictures that he's taken before.

And so he knew her going into this. And yeah, it's, he needs to, at some point, stop lying, but Urban Meyer won't ever stop lying. That's the problem. And he also sucks at apologizing. Oh, he's, he's the, he's the worst apologizer ever. When he was at Ohio State, we're like, he needs a vice president of apologies just to write a statement. Well, his apologies always end up becoming apologies for not apologizing correctly. So he never actually, actually, he's a genius in apologizing because he never actually has to apologize for the act. He just has to not apologize and then apologize for not apologizing. It's genius when you think about it. Yeah. I think he, the apology here was that he lied. I mean, that's the worst part of

it. If you, if you get caught like this and you, definitely it's all out there. Everybody else, just say, yeah, I messed up. I screwed up. I'm an embarrassment to my team. I'm going to explain to them why I did it. Don't say I got pulled out to the dance floor. I mean, I was there with my grandkids. That's the worst part of it. Just mess up. You know, once a guy messes up, we tend to move on. Yeah. No, it's true. He hasn't figured that out. All right. Pete, last thing, uh, we're four games into the NFL season. Would you like to give us an updated Super Bowl matchup? Well, my Super Bowl matchup before the season was Buffalo and Tampa Bay. And I think I'll stick with that for now. I know Tampa Bay hasn't been playing very well. I think Buffalo wins at Kansas

City this week. I love what they've done on defense. I think the one thing they did was they drafted the knockdown Patrick Mahomes because they only sacked them twice in two games last year. Boogie Basham, Russo, that gang, Eponessa, I think they're going to get after them. I think the bills are the best team in the AFC and the Cardinals are playing well, but I think Tampa Bay will get it together and start playing really well in defense. Okay. All right. And Russell Wilson, how close is he to an MVP vote from you? Uh, no, not right now. Damn. Kyler Murray is your Russell Wilson MVP. I tell you what, Kyler Murray, Kyler Murray's in the conversation for sure. They're, he's having a great year and that's an interesting team.

Will they beat the 49ers this week? That's a good question. I say yes. The, uh, we, we're going to start a memorial, a Russell Wilson memorial, even though he hasn't passed that will all be in the title, uh, halfway point MVP. So Kyle Mer, Kyler Murray by week eight, I think we'll get our halfway point MVP. Well, he got hurt last year, remember? Yeah. Otherwise he was in the MVP conversation and it's for Russell Wilson. The problem with that is every year he starts out really fast and then Pete Carroll takes over and says, no, we're going to run the ball more. That's why it's named after him. Yeah. I love it. That's a great day. Give it to him. Okay. Okay. All right. Oh Pete, we have the robot question.

Oh yeah. Robot question. Put in code PFT. You get 20% off. We're going to send you a Robot Q zip. Uh, what size neck do you have? That looks like a substantial 18 and a half. Yeah. Pete, my robot question is if you were, uh, in urban Myers shoes, would you have, uh, cups the ass more? I wouldn't have done it. Oh, okay. Wow. You would have, you would have ignored her. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Wow. Better man than urban. What would you two have done? No, I mean, I would have gotten on that fucking dance floor. Urban's very good at ignoring women when one of their assistant coaches are assaulted. Don't you have, don't you have like two little kids? I do. I wouldn't be in a bar. I wouldn't

be in a bar on a Friday night. That's just actually, yeah. So I wouldn't, I'm, I wouldn't put myself in that situation. The MD 40, whatever you, what was that used to drink? Mad Dog 2020. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, nah, you would have been out. No, Mad Dog 2020, you lose all ability to function. Yeah. It's kind of like a really good way to never get yourself in trouble like that is just get too drunk too early. So it's like quailude in a bottle then. There you go. Yep. Throw back. Okay. Yeah. Not that I know anything about that or anything. Pete, thank you very much. We appreciate you as always. All right, guys, anytime. All right. See you. Okay. We now welcome on a very special

guest. It is our newest coworker, Jersey Jerry. It was always Jersey Jerry Jerry. Can you introduce yourself and tell everyone, uh, quickly your path from where you were to where you are now, and then we'll get to some blue, what do we call it? Bring your lunch, bring your lunch pail. Yeah. Go ahead. Jersey Jerry. Um, 27. I've been blue collar for seven years. Union Pipe Fitter A55 till I die. I'm still on the union book now, but now I work for Barstool Sports. What were we doing before you were blue collar? I was bagging groceries. That's still blue collar. Yeah. So I guess maybe a good place to start with this would be what is your definition of what is and what isn't blue collar? I think I think anybody who gets up early and goes

to work packs their lunch and works on their feet and works hard. I think that's blue collar. I love it. I love it. So, uh, you're working on gas lines. Yeah. High pressure gas line. Yeah. Um, dangerous job. Always following the rules. Yep. Safety first, except when the vape comes. Yeah. You gotta have a vape on you. You gotta keep that thing on you. But it's great that you're here. Great that you're fighting in rough and rowdy. You're a very funny guy. You've been doing some funny stuff for a while now. So this isn't just out of the blue, but we thought it'd be good to have you on to talk blue collar every couple, you know, once a month or once every six months or six weeks or so questions from the people. Also,

for people who are not watching on YouTube, Jersey Jerry, very good looking guy. Got a great chain. Is that true? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I made it clear two days ago that I do work and a half, but I didn't say it on air. Yeah. And then I said, let's keep that in the office, you know, but such a big, such a shamer rule number one. Can you bleep out seven and a half bleep it out, bleep it out, bleep it out. Can you please bleep it out? Jerry, you're, you breed French Bulldogs too, right? Yep. There it is. There. Yeah. Let's take a look. You got them on the arm there. Do you have, do you have any puppies right now or what? Yep. I got four. How cute are they? I have two puppies. Sorry. I'm right now. Yeah. I love

French Bulldogs. Will you look at me like that, Hank? Beautiful dogs. Great dogs. Uh, Jersey Jerry. Is that, is that blue collar work breeding French Bulldogs? Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. You have to get up, you work on your feet when you breed the French Bulldogs. Of course. Yeah. You got to regulate their temperatures and everything. Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of work. Hank just low alert in my face. No, dirty work. He just low alert in my face. So he's lolling me. All right. So Jerry, very excited. Let's do some blue collar talk. Now, people submit questions. Yeah. Yeah. You like it? Yeah, it's cool. It's fucking best. Also, if you're a Steelers fan, Jersey Jerry is like the number one Steelers fan. He's from the famous

video, no dishes, no nothing. You find me hanging from the ceiling. He was yelling at his mom. It's great video. Thanks, big cat. Yeah. You mean, I'm your agent. You know, I love you. Thank you, although I might not be ready. I fucked up today, whatever. All right, Billy, go ahead. What? That's what you do. Fucked up? Actually, as an agent. Wow. As an agent. It actually wasn't my fuck up. I'm just owning it. It was Jerry's. It was. But at the same time, you could have said, hey, Jerry, I don't think this is a good idea. Well, okay. Yeah, you're right. You're right. But what was your idea? He wanted to trade. Jersey Jerry worked in his contract two pizzas a month. He wanted to trade the two pizzas a month to try to get Mike Tyson to walk him out at Ruffin Rowdy.

And it didn't go well. The negotiation didn't go well. No. So wait, are you negotiating against Big Cat? No, I'm his agent. We went and tried to negotiate it, but it was doesn't sound like you're his agent. No, I'm right. We're going to make facial expressions right now. Hank is a fucking scout He's a pot stirrer. But we rebounded from that. And we got you the granola bars. Yeah, I think we're all right right now. All right. Go ahead, Billy. PMT gang and Jerry I need your help. I took a job out of college that promised to give me exposure to multiple parts of my company's business over the course of more than a year. I'm three months into the job and I've been working 10 plus hour days starting at 5am doing the work no one else wants to do. In this case,

doing manual labor and dealing with foul smelling products we get back from customers. People keep telling me to keep my head down and that the experience would be worth it. But the day to day can be completely physically and mentally draining. What advice do you have to get through it feeling gritty but frustrated? Good question. Definitely, definitely a good question. You know, the philosophy I have always had and I'll always tell my mom this, you know, no matter how bad a day I'm having, no matter what, I believe in blue collar and I believe in the work ethic, you know, it took me I'd say seven years of blue collar. Blue collar was never my dream. Blue collar was just a grind. My dream was to be a star.

My dream was to be Jersey Jerry. And it took seven years of blue collar and look at me now, I'm at my dream. So this guy must have a dream. He has to keep grinding and until then it might take seven days, it might take seven years, it might take 17 years, but he has to keep grinding. I love it, Jerry. That's a great fucking advice. I absolutely love it. Do you think that there's so that the way he was describing what he does at work, they said you're going to be exposed to all different parts of the company. It sounds like that might not be a very easy way to get ahead at the company because you're just floating around and probably doing, you know, different departments dirty work instead of finding your lane and having, you know, one department that you

work for, you make your name at it, you know, exactly. It's probably easier to build up the ladder that way. Am I wrong? I agree. I agree with you. You gotta basically say this is now that I've done the, I've seen every part of how it works, pick the one part you actually like and tell your boss that. Good point. Yeah. What's up, fellas? I work as a laborer on a construction crew in New Jersey. I like this. Sitting up. One day before work, I arrived at the site earlier than usual and noticed another car was parked not too far from me. As I glance over the car next to me, I see a head pop up from the driver's window. I made direct eye contact with both individuals. Turns out the security guard from the site was getting a little more in Vito. Yeah, I was one of

the same. I didn't really didn't know that. Finn looked over and you saw that ever happen on this on the site. Never. Never. Never. No, that day I was approached by the same. You know how to keep your mouth shut. I liked that. Man, it offered tickets to the Yankees game. I had no idea. No, no. Alright. Stop, Billy. It's the Sopranos. I didn't actually see the Sopranos. I am the one that picked the questions. I didn't know that because I haven't fucking watched the Sopranos because BigHat and PET spoiled it for me. We did not actually do that. What do you think about that? I didn't see where that question was going but I mean, I've watched the Sopranos but I don't know. I don't recommend Remember that part. You ever is there any no-show jobs? What do you mean? No show jobs like there's a guy who's like who shows up

One of those yeah, yeah, but you don't you don't try to talk about that. Okay, sorry What about if there's if if everybody starts picketing outside does any the boss has ever sent in some some thugs to rough you up? No, no We run the show, you know the supervision, you know if we don't like something we're gonna stand down We're not gonna work and then when we don't work, you know lights and gas Electric none of that stuff works. They know not to mess with us. Did you ever have to being in a union? Did you ever have to stand outside with the big rat? Yeah, and it's tough because like think about it like this There's guys that been in this company

35 45 years they built a big bankroll they can go on strike For six weeks six months and it not affect them But there's a lot of young kids and it takes balls as a young kid You know who doesn't have a big big bankroll to be without work for you know six weeks until you know We negotiate, but that's union life, but that's that welcome to the union. Yes. I like what number are you? 855 pipe fitter Love it. Are you are you still a member? Yes, I won't be yeah 12 bucks a month paying the dues 17 17 bucks Sorry, I want to pay the dues. Yeah, could I join that union right now?

And I try actually work but pay them see I don't I don't think that could I don't think that'll work Yeah, I've tried I've tried to just yeah pay for it. Yeah Cat hungry eyes honk in the rest suck we unioned up over a year ago Our union hasn't done jack shit for us as workers and our dumbasses accepted a four-year contract as our first contract Two guys got sent sending dick pics and only one of them got pushed out. What are we supposed to do? Sounds like it's a bubble gum union It's a it's a it's a fraud union. It's a fake union. Yeah, you know union in name only. Yeah Yeah, no, I would love to know what union that is

Yeah, I mean the right off the bat red flags four-year deal. We don't do those. Yeah No, we we do wanted to love it because we always want more money We always want better benefits. You know what I mean? And like there's a lot of unions that you know, we need to give up something to get something. No, yeah We get we don't give up. Yeah What is there like a is there a clubhouse that the union hangs out at? Yeah, not really a not really a clubhouse. I would say they do a lot of events a tree fort Not so much they have like they have the hall but like nobody really hangs out there got it

What kind of events do you do? Do you have like a golf golf event bar barbecue stuff like that? Yeah, Christmas party stuff like that I love it. Do you have to bring your eyes like potluck? No, no every day everything is paid for nice nice from that You know, that's part of paying your dues to you know, yeah, these parties they throw it comes out of that. Yeah But I would love I would love to know what you need that bubble gum union for your deal That's got to be that's a pretty sweet gig if you're like the head of that union where you just say Okay, we negotiate this deal out now. I don't have to do anything for the next four years exactly Yeah, they need to be working for the workers and you got to be careful with that ahead of unions man those guys Watch them, you know, I heard you paying houses

You know, all right next Billy Sup guys, especially Jerry Bubba and Liam. Oh my buddy in sanitation is addicted to getting catfished every day He shows me more and more important stars that he believes he's sexting with The real problem is that he shows me the sex and the process shows me all those dick pics It's not blue collar to go to HR with this issue. So any advice would be appreciated. Thanks is this I don't even know what to make of this. Yeah, he's just he's just DMing. Yeah Yeah guys that just that overshare stuff with you on the job

Yeah, like like stuff about their life and their marriage and stuff like that I mean the divorce rate in you can I don't think you could look this up But like we've done studies like people in the union like higher-ups the divorce rate for us is like over 70% Holy shit because guys are working 70-80 hours a week. You know what I mean? What what have you do? Have you ever met guys in the in your line of work that maybe we're DMing chicks and being like oh, she might be real Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah Are they drill it like if you're on a construction site

Is there any truth to the whole like urban legend the concrete blondes that hang out in and around the site? You know case over time goes a little late. It's it's more of like in in the shittier areas Yeah, you know like your your pat your patter sins and stuff like that You don't you you don't whistle at women when they would know no no you you respect women Yeah, I don't I don't I don't cheat or I don't do that. Yeah. Yeah, how you don't even know how to whistle Yeah, that's The guy Prince Andrew you can't even sweat let's do some role-playing real quick Billy is a hot chick and

He walks past you your wife in the sweat off your brow on a construction site. What do you say to him as he walks past? Hey, ma'am. Have a good day. That's awesome. I love it. I love it We're gentlemen as yeah, we need to we need to take back some of these stereotypes. Yes, there are fences against construction workers Yes, how good does a cold beer taste after like a 12 hour day? Well, I don't drink. Yeah, he doesn't drink. Okay. All right. How good what do you think it was as his agent? We we plead the fifth on that question. Okay, I don't answer these how good does an ice cold coca-cola taste? I'll tell you what it hits a little different. It's in the glass Cheez-It's yeah full fat the Mexican coke. Yes. Yes. All right, go ahead Billy

Hello white collar cat PFT Hank and the boys Question for Jersey Jerry. I may have been a safety manager at a steel fabrication plant The other day I might have had a guy lose his finger on the job Oh, yeah, he may have approached me carrying his attached finger and asked me what he should do Jerry, what would you do in that situation if you were the worker without a finger? Thanks attempting to avoid potential litigation. Yeah, no, we've we've had incidents like that There's a guy I work with his name is his Pete D. I won't say the last name But that's actually happened bringing the bed down the finger. He got caught

Oh, you know the stuff that you dump like concrete and stuff like that He would they were bringing it down and his hand was there sliced his finger right off and They he brought it to get reattached brought it with like in hand to the hospital, but that doesn't get reattached No, no, it was over so he's got one. He's got a half a digit Yeah, and then does it does he get does he get paid out disability? Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, how much do you think one one fingers worth goes by good question. It goes by body parts Oh, so what is it fingers like one of the least amount of money you can get oh, really thumb though

That's probably a lot. Yeah, it doesn't matter. So it let's just role play here if Big Ben was a union worker How much money would he get disability? Millions bodies beat up You know Nose neck elbow Elbows back foot. Yeah, both feet So shins my multi millions multi millions. Yeah, his body is broken broken man broken What's up boys? I have been a electrician for about four years now and during my first year about lunchtime on his on

This day I got out of my car and seen a trail of blood and I wanted to see what was going on Come to find out a man actually cut off half his leg due to a circular saw Oh, I wasn't sure what to do I did not want to have everyone look at me because I didn't want to be known as the guy who can fix everything Including a guy's leg actually hanging on by the skin Oh any thoughts on what I should have done medics eventually came and I never heard about the guy again I'm sure Billy would know what I should have done This guy a terrible grammar. Yeah, I mean, you know

Union we believe in you know brotherhood and you know, that's your that's your dying brother right there And you're just gonna leave him to die like that. I would have picked up the leg. Yeah and done what? Call for help. Yeah picked it up and just maybe waved it over your head like help No nice machine. Yeah stick it in there. Just kind of just jam it back in the socket something It sounds like this guy didn't do anything. Yeah, it sounds like he panicked. He just froze up for what do you say four years on the job? Come on. No four years. These are your family. Yeah first year on the job What would you say? What's the worst injury they've ever seen on a site? Oh? Electrocution

Jack Cameron in the ground through the concrete and he hit underground underground electric It's bad. Yeah, he's paid off now never work again. Oh, okay Yeah Burns throughout his whole arm and chest Back side of his neck. We're not that old urban legend or maybe it's a real story about the guy that was like working up on the 10th floor And then he fell off But he had a thing a sheet metal that he held on to with both his hands and he glided down to the earth Is that real? I think that's that's that's fake. Oh, yeah

All right last one Billy I Blue collar Jair nothing worse than a new Porter John on the job site 645 hung over shit head in my hands dropping a hammer I made a bird's nest but I think it sunk caught some splash back ended up with walking out with a blue chin What is this? That's all he said. All right, yeah, I mean a brand new Porter John nothing inside of it, you know, at least if it's used for quite some time

You got toilet paper in there. You got feces. You're gonna get no splash back right? I didn't so the new Porter John you think would be great. Yeah, but it's not no So you get the blue splash back get the splash. So what do you do to mitigate that? I think I just ball up toilet paper and just keep throwing it in there throwing it in there Break it in a little bit like it like a catcher's mitt Exactly, what are their little quirk like about the job site that did us white collar guys don't understand But the foreman pays for lunch on Fridays every Friday. Yeah, fuck. Yes. Yeah, how many guys is that for? Usually we have a crew of four or five people. I love it. What's the standard lunch order?

whatever we would whatever we want to concoke from steak sandwich to McDonald's don't matter now the best the best like it is the best to go get the lunch right be the guys going to get the lunch That means you don't have to work for an hour the most junior guy always goes, but that's almost better, right? Sometimes we like the junior guy to get away and go Cuz he doesn't know how to talk with the guy. Yeah, he asked too many questions Yeah, plus, you know what I mean? I'd say what for me. It was tougher, you know a year and a half two years It was tough to get you know used to you know the type of people these people are you know what I mean?

It's not like you go there. And if you're a cool funny guy, you're like this with them No, they need to trust you. Yeah, they need to see that you work hard Exactly. Yeah, then then after you prove yourself then people start asking. Hey, I want this guy on my crew I want him on my crew. So were you a coveted guy? Yeah, I'd say so. Yeah What was your moment that you knew that you were in? I had a I had a buddy now. We call him OT Tommy Okay, he's the highest he's the high one of the highest guys in our shop and this guy he's like He's one of the youngest form in there

But he he's feisty. He don't take shit from nobody and he wouldn't talk to me for a long time And then all of a sudden one day He's like, yo, you're on my crew and I'm like, oh, you sure because they didn't put me with you on the paper He's no I said you're on my crew. I said, okay, and he's only like two or three years older than me Yeah, so I'm like, all right. No problem. I went on Tommy's crew. I never left his crew Oh, hell. Yes, and he just had your back. Yeah, my back. Whatever. I'm going to his wedding Saturday. Oh Congrats to OT Tommy Tommy. I can be a beautiful wedding with all the OT. Oh Nice like unlimited lobster everything. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, you know, there's a lot of a lot of you know

I can't say much about the time but Let's just say and when you're union you could be home still getting paid Okay, I like that. So that's what we need. We need you. Yeah, I can I like how you call it a shop too Can we call like is this room when we do part of my take a shop a shop could be a shop? All right. Yeah when you're in here doing blue collar bring your lunch pail Wednesday I might be the shop Stewart. Yeah. Yeah, go get us lunch. Okay. No Junior no, no, yeah, that's Billy Billy's job. He always gets us lunch. He's we make him clock out though when he does Sometimes he forgets o'clock and we make that money back. Yeah, you know

Jerry would you like to pick a number? We do we guess numbers one to a hundred and then we end the show Mm-hmm. Go ahead. Just one number. Yeah 21 21. All right. I'm gonna go 97 99 69 Six Jerry if you get this It'd be the greatest moment 16

Yeah, close. Yeah, it's pretty close. Oh five away five No, we always do one. Yeah, and what happens if you win it you get get satisfaction. You want to do one more? Sure Okay, same number This doesn't count but the accounts for Jerry and Jerry. Oh, we're gonna go Jerry. Go ahead guess 21 21 Oh, Jerry gets this one. This doesn't count for the record. Let's just see if Jerry can get it That's what I was gonna say Here all day One more 21 just one

Like the family few things Ah 89 Not so close. No, that's pretty cool Okay Oh Oh Hey

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