Pardon My Take - Chris Berman In Studio, NFL Season Recap With Jerry O'Connell + A Recap Of Hank's Standup Performance

Episode Date: February 7, 2024

Day 2 In Vegas and we start the show with our friend Jerry O'Connell and a recap of the 2023 NFL Season (00:00:00-00:34:31). Hot Seat/Cool Throne and a bonus Jerry poem for Max (00:34:31-00:52:47). Chris Berman joins us in studio to talk about the Super Bowl, career memories, what makes sports so great and more (00:52:47-02:00:25). We finish with a recap of Hank and Meme's comedy night (02:00:25-02:19:47).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have a very special guest, Chris Berman, in studio. The Schwarm is a Super Bowl tradition every single Super Bowl week. We have the Schwarm on. This is a three years running. We also have an even more special guest.

Jerry O'Connell is sitting in Hank's seat to start the show. So how it's gonna work is, J.O.C. is here in place of Hank. Some may say he, Wally Pip, ever heard of him. Jerry O'Connell might take Hank's spot. Way to compete, Hank. He's gonna do Hot Seat Cool Throne with us. Then we're gonna get to Chris Berman.

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And then I can't stay all on the sun Oh no, we're gonna rock down to Elec trick I brand new And then we'll take it higher Oh we're gonna rock down to Elec trick I brand new It's a part of my take. There's enough of our two sports. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Wednesday, February 7th.

And Hank, you look different. Yeah, you know, I'm just working. Let me try some of my material. Knock, knock. Who's there? Climate change. Climate change, who? I'm kidding.

I'm not real, so I'm not really here. That is Jerry O'Connell, by the way, so. No, no, it's still Hank. It's still Hank. Hank, what do you think about your Patriots offseason? You know, I think it was good to hire Coach Mayo in internally. I think that's going to be good. Don't know what we're going to do in the QB position. I think Mac Jones is a

little, a little bitch. Hey, what's the deal? What is the deal? Just tell me the background of Mac Jones. Is he a because he seems to me to be a really wealthy kid. Is he one of these wealthy? McCorkle. Is that what it is, his name? Macorchall? Is that his name? His name's Macorchall. So his name is not Mac Jones.

Is his middle name Macorchall? I think his first name is Macorchall. I'm looking it up right now. Michael Macorchall, Mac Jones. Because he just, and I'm sorry to get right into it about the Patriots, but I do wanna say the NFL is better when the Patriots are losing. I'm sorry to get right into it about the Patriots, but I do wanna say the NFL is better when the Patriots are losing. I'm sorry.

It's like, think about this. I'm not kidding. Think about this season and how exciting it's been, how many ups and downs, especially in the AFC, the Broncos were in it for a second, the Texans were in it for a second, Jacksonville looked good. I mean, there was a lot of teams in play.

And when the Patriots aren't in play, it's just more fun. It's wide open. It's just wide open. But Matt Jones. Well, it's not really, because he's the Chiefs. Uh, I thought for a second the Chiefs weren't going to make it. Yeah. I think, I mean, I listened to you all religiously.

I think you would all agree with me Yeah, they've flipped the switch though. We might have steered you wrong on man. I put a couple futures on The Jaguars I didn't put them on the Broncos. I almost did when they went through their little run I mean, of course I had I was I seemed to bet with this podcast for some Yeah, we're the poster boys for Gamble responsibly. Well, betting is so funny because when you hear people talking about something, it just gets in your head. That was a good point.

Yeah, it's so funny. These guys know what they're talking about. Jerry, I love your jacket. It's awesome. I love any sort of like Super Bowl or NFL theme merchandise. It looks awesome. I think you just got it because I think they sold that downstairs. I did. I just got it. I actually they sold that downstairs. I did. I just got

it. Um, I actually, uh, I've been in Vegas now for a couple days. Um, I actually hit it big in uh, Kino. I was really Kino had a huge score and how much? I mean, a lot of money, but not only did I buy this. Um, let me show you the back of this jacket too. If you're watching on YouTube, okay, you don't get to hear a little you got to do. Little rumble. Yeah. Wow.

That's nice. You just wanted to show off your ass. No, I didn't only stop there. If you look at my pants, I actually bought a lot of clothes. I had so much money. Look at who makes these pants, big cat. Oh, who makes these pants?

That's the Bellagio makes those pants. You got hotel pants. The Bellagio makes those pants. He's getting up up close. So for people who are like, hey, why is Jerry sitting in Hank's seat? This show we have the Schwam as the interview. Chris Berman. Hank is getting ready.

Hank has been a diva all day. He's basically been like, don't talk to me. I don't want to do anything. That's just normal. Hank, yeah, he's getting ready for his show. So we figured our good friend, Jerry O'Connor, will sit in Hank's seat for the start of the show. At the end of the show, we'll talk to Hank

about how the comedy night went, but we have JOC. You have your briefcase. Should I ask what's in the briefcase this time? Oh yeah, I brought my briefcase. You guys were kind enough to allow me to manage your high stakes fantasy team. How'd that go? It was a terrible job.

How'd that go, Jerry? Darren Waller, no matter what. We never asked him back on that. We had a terrible year, and I wanted to take this time with you to tell you some things I learned from this season, and maybe you could find it in your hearts to allow me to manage your team again. You don't have to give an answer today. Uh-huh.

But just open the briefcase. OK. It's a Quentin Tarantino movie. Oh, he's got sheets. Yeah, I made some. But just open the briefcase. Okay. It's a Quentin Tarantino movie. Oh, he's got sheets. Yeah, I made some. He also, Jerry, did give me an excedrin that was wrapped in a napkin. Toilet paper, actually. Toilet paper, yeah.

So that was, that's just true friendship, right? Yeah. Are you sure it's actually excedrin? Yeah. It looks like you're a mule. How long do you have? Cut with a little, You're way too many. Cut with a little fented old, No, I'll make mule. I'm hogging, hogging. So you guys cut with a little love. You have way too many.

Cut with a little fented old. No, I'll make it fast. I realize, I realize. Wait, hold on, hold on. Let me see this one thing. Okay. Patriots none ever. Mac Jones seems like such a little bitch.

NFL is better when the Patriots lose. It's more exciting, way more story. So you already did the Patriots. I already did my Patriots bit. You know what? I'm just going to give you some things I learned this season. I love the foggy, yeah, yeah, yeah. Geriel Connell's, this is good.

Geriel Connell's, 2023 season recap. So let's start with the AFC East, which was such an exciting division. When I came on your show in August, I told, I said, don't draft any dolphins at all. How'd that work? I told, I said, don't draft any dolphins at all. How'd that work? Well, that was a mistake because fantasy, you basically score points from offense.

And their offense was as incredible as I've seen in my lifetime actually. Did they're running back score any touchdowns this year? I believe, I believe Most are led the league. I think he had something like 21 touchdowns. So that was a mistake. I think I specifically said, stay away from most are. That was a mistake.

So I've actually changed my tune all the dolphins. Okay, I'm gonna season if I were to be your manager, all the dolphins. What do you mean if you are? You have a lifetime contract with our manager. Let's make him earn it back. No, I'm gonna give you a lifetime contract. You know what?

I'm gonna fire you right now, Jerry, and getting your job back is contingent on how this goes. This is what it feels like to be Coach Siriani. Sorry, sorry, Max. Oh, I have a question. Is Coach McDaniels annoying? Yes. Josh McDaniels? No. Michael. Michael. Yeah. Michael McDaniel. Not annoying. I don't think he's annoying. No, not annoying.

If they don't win next year, yes. annoying. Hmm. You don't think the pants, the the the the Kulap pants are like a little like you're wearing Bellagio pants. I don't think you can judge the sunglasses all the time is a little bit much for me. Yeah, the reading glasses that you don't need. OK. Bills, the Buffalo Bills were staying in the AFC East, all of them. Yeah, OK. Yeah, one of them.

Step on digs. Is this your preview and your post? Well, no, this is what I'm going to do if you do choose me. OK, all right, got it, got it, got it. So what happens in August when you come back? Is that also a preview? I'm going to have some revisions if I make it back. The Jets, absolutely none of them. It's a first franchise ever again.

Not even Breeze Hall because Memes knows Izzy's going to vulture all those touches. It's easy, easy. Pat's none of them. Mac Jones is highly annoying. I just can't draft any, let's move on to the ABC West. I can't draft any chiefs, I just can't do it. Yeah.

And I think it's funny, Jake actually brought this up, um, in his like good nature, the annoying way where he said that like dynasties are good for the business. You know, and that was annoying of him. It made me think like, um, he was talking about how the patriots helped basically built barstool, you know, but they're so annoying. Those dynasties. Yeah, they are. If they're not yours.

Yeah. If they're yours, then there's nothing better. Yeah. So you just gotta find a dynasty that's your own. Yeah, I guess, I just, I've never experienced that kind of winning in my life. I mean. You married a supermodel.

Well, I know, but it's still. Well, they're, I don't know if you've seen, but they're on the rocks. We're not on the rocks, that's a joke. I saw a report that said that you guys were on the rocks. Yeah, I know. I mean, we're constantly fighting with each other, but we're like no lawyers have been called.

OK, all right, good. I'm just, I see the reports. Is it every marriage on the rocks? Yeah, true. It's built on the rocks. I mean, it's a nightmare. Like we're here in Vegas. We're walking around.

There's a huge convention. Every female convention person like you walk past like stares at you with those hungry eyes. Yeah. I don't want to tell them. And they're like wearing a lanyard and like you have to keep walking because. I've seen the way women react around you, Jerry. Yeah. They love you. They love Jerry. I don't like the chiefs. They bother me. I don't like the chiefs.

They bother me. I don't want to say anything negative about. Taylor Swift, but that. That just. It's unfair that Taylor Swift was basically introduced to the NFL this year. Yeah. And she's already in the Super Bowl in the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl. In the Super Bowl.

It's like that. It's just like, like, like these people need to know life doesn't work that way. Yeah, she should have dated someone on like, yeah. The Panthers. Yeah, the Panthers. Yeah. Go to bank.

I want to see her a Bank of America Stadium week 16. That's a fact. Yeah. Like making the heart sign to someone. Like, I mean, like. I want to see David Tepper pouring a drink on her. Okay, Broncos, AFC West, who is going to be their quarterback next season?

James Winston. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe Ross. Really good, great interview, good stuff. Little long at times, but man, really, really good. Okay. That guy, wow, that guy can spin a yarn. He can talk. Yeah. Good stuff though.

Really good stuff. That was that was a good one. None of the Raiders. OK, you know, the Raiders are like a talent like vacuum, like they've ruined Devonte, they've ruined Josh Jacobs. I look a lot of a lot of O'Connell's in the league now. Love that. My last lot of O'Connell's in the league now. Love that.

My last name is O'Connell, but they're like a talent sponge. None of the Chargers, AFC West. I just don't see it happening. It's like buying a dilapidated Victorian home. It's like not gonna be inhabitable for years. Oh, he's harboring. But you're a Chargers fan.

I am, and I am a Chargers fan because there's, I don't mean any, I don't mean to offend any Chargers fans, but it's like so easy to get tickets there. It's like the parking's way easier. There's no way that you can wait the whole game and get right out of that parking lot. It's like pretty easy, but not yet Chargers. You have to see a significant thing happened last season, and you guys didn't really talk about it. You talked about it a little bit. I'm big on the Bengals. I like them, I love their offense.

I love Joe Barrow, I love Joe Mixon. I talked about everybody here. That withholding of the information about the hand thing. I actually bet that game and I love a money line. I love a close money line bet because you get some odds and you're not looking at points. And that to me is like, I try to bet singularly. I think that's the way you win money

is that you don't have an exotic, is that you have one bet. And if someone's an underdog by three points, that money line bet, that's my jam. And I took the bingles that week thinking, oh, well, he's not on the injury report. I know he wore that cast and he was photographed with the tape on it on his thumb,

but it's nothing because it's not on the report. Like we're now in an age where everyone is gambling. It's legal. It's no longer done with a bookie. You know, this is like money. That man needs to be on that injury Report and they're I'm sorry to say there needs to be repercussions and I'm done with the Bengals That's a lot of percussion. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. That's the repercussion. Jerry Jerry will no longer draft their players onto his fancy

Yeah, the worst fate you could have yeah AFC South Jaguars, I'm all in on the Jaguars. Okay. All in. May I ask why? No, I just have a feeling they're gonna You know, like the first time I came on your show. I told you I had a thing for the Jags and just I think they're gonna move to London I just can't wait for English people to be like Nigel, did you hear the Jaguars are coming? Story history of the Jaguars. Fredrick Taylor and Marcus Brunnell. Great Maurice Jones Drew. Sam Maurice Jones Drew.

Blake Bolls. Right. Or will they remain the Jaguars or will they become like the beef eaters or something? Beef eaters would be good. Or the beans. Redcoats. The inbred monarchs. Become like the beef eaters or something beef eaters would be good or the beans red coats Yeah Inbred monarchs Yeah, Colts AFC South. I love the Colts all of them. I think Richardson's got to protect himself, but um Love him love Michael Pittman. Yeah, Jim Hersey's okay. He's on the mend right now. Yeah, he tweeted a second ago He's back good

Shout out to his mama Texans all the Texans except that one-two punch of single Terry Pierce isn't doing it for me One-two knockout punch But all the man Collins tank Man, what a team Eagles max you ready? All of them, Max.

Every single one of them. All of them. We're back. We're so back. So fun to watch. How do you feel about Brazil, Max? The birds are open in the season in Brazil. I like that they're opening the season

because that's just like kind of an exciting thing. I don't like that it is counting as a home game. Yeah. That sucks. One less game at the link. Yeah. Max, you should, I mean, you should make a trip down there. I don't know if the airplane could. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no about all the TFing we're gonna be doing. That's true. You might do some BFing in Brazil.

Yeah. Just with the cheeks. Just the cheeks though, like hot dog in the buns. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's, by the way, I don't mean to generalize in stereotype, but they're known for their asses. Yeah, and that's like a lot of BFing. There's a lot of BFing going on down there.

That would be so fun. I wonder if Max would never actually like want to insert back there if he'd just be like, I just want to, I want the friction from the rubbing on your butt and then like a Brazilian person would be like put it in place. Max now put it in. And Max would be like, no, no, no baby, I want the friction. No, no, no, this is what, this is my thing. You know this is my thing.

I want the friction on the butt nut. Please, Max, please put my thing. You know this is my thing. I want the fridge in the butt nut. Please, please, please put it in. Put it in now. I want you inside of me. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not going inside. Stop saying that. Shut up.

All right, yeah. That'd be epic. No, yeah, that's basically it. That's basically it. That's exactly it. On Friday night, too. Yeah, Friday night. This is, okay, I'm going to stand up

for high school football here. I feel like this is encroaching on their territory right Friday night That's when the kids play that's what they did when they did the Jets dolphins game on Black Friday They basically were like hey, this is coming. Yeah, fuck high school. Take every day Yeah, Fridays are weird. Also, you have to be careful and I know as your former fantasy manager You've got to set lineups for those Friday games. You forget about them and then they get locked in and your set lineups for those Friday games. You forget about them and then they get locked in and you're stuck with someone that you don't want,

Brandon Cooks or something. Jared, as part of our review process for how the season went, what was our final record? It wasn't good. I stopped watching. I'm so sorry. My name is my name, okay? But I let you down this season.

Yeah, big time, big time. And the only thing to do is to get back up and start working again. And that's gonna take us to the NFC East. Cowboys, cowboys need a second receiver. You know, I don't mind, I don't mind Dak Prescott. I don't mind the cowboys. mind Dak Prescott. I don't mind the Cowboys. Tony Pollard was non existent.

I think I told all the AWLs to draft him. I'm sorry. He sucked. He sucked. Why? Why did he suck? When you're the backup, you get those carries after everyone does the hard yards and then you actually first.

You actually said that. I remember you saying that. Maybe we don't want him to be the featured back. He also had that knee injury that probably slowed him down a little bit. Yeah, it was a bummer of a season for them. I mean, I'm sitting in Hank's chair. So I feel like I got to defend them. Great defense though.

I am going to talk about Tiffany Gomez in a second. I'm going to save that though because I need to collect my thoughts Giants I want to apologize again to the AWL as I told them to waste their fourth round pick on Darren Waller And that was an error Darren Waller no matter what yep When did you realize you fucked that up was it week one week? About halfway through week one. Yeah That was a real error And then I bet when

DeVito got in, you were like, well, maybe there's gonna be connection there. Maybe this is good. It was a fun story until it wasn't until everything came back down to earth. That was a good interview. Love that interview. That was really good. Sean Stilato. Um, the commanders. Yeah. What's gonna happen with them? Oh, we're going to be great in like two years. Two years. This year, we're going to get a quarterback.

Which one? We got Cliff. I don't know. Any of the three. Any of the top three, I'm fine. Interesting. Yeah. What happens to Hal?

Who I didn't mind. Hal, Hal is probably going to be a great backup. Probably one of the best backups. We got, actually, we're cornering the backup market. We've the best backups that we got actually we're cornering the Mac the the backup market We've got Sam Howell and we got Jacobi Berset. Hmm. I think we're set. Okay. I Didn't mind them. I didn't mind them early in the season. Yep Until like week four like really early in the season just need to see if you guys rehire me I just need to see what's gonna happen

NFC West, why am I so why do the 49ers bore me so why are they so boring? Yeah, I don't know. It doesn't make sense. No, it makes no sense. They're fun. They really are. Yeah, they do like you don't like running the football. It's just like what do you want like 20 points from all your players starters every week is that what you want? I don't't know I'm so bored. Hey, you know what by the way, there's another I don't want to make this about the celebrity football couples, but There's a pretty famous football couple on the 49ers, you know Olivia Colpo beautiful woman and Christian McCaffery arguably the best player in the league the best player in the league Like nobody talks about, like nobody really talks about them.

Like I'm telling you, there's a boredom that happens with the 49ers. And I know I've talked about the guy I work with who always gets in my face and he's, he's just a volatile man. He's just a tattooed volatile man who just always says to me like, and the Niners just had one of those seasons this year. He's always like, yeah, you like the Niners, right?

You like them again. It's just steamrolling. Yeah. Nothing. Yeah, the Packers didn't even put a scare into us. Like we just, for a second there, I thought, but look at us. Niners punch you in the mouth football. It's just so, I can't draft them.

They're two points. It's 20 points every week, 20 points every week. That's really good. Yeah, that sucks. Oh, let's talk about the Seahawks. Is Penex gonna be their quarterback? Well, that'd be cool. Are you thinking just because you went to Washington?

Yeah. And isn't there a, hold on a second. You guys are no better than I do because you have fast internet but who's the new Seahawks offensive coordinator? Oh, I think it is someone from the Washington Huskies. Please look it up, Jake. Jake.

Well, I just hired Steve Belichick as the defensive coordinator. Offensive coordinator, Jake, waiting on Jake. Jake, Jake, Jake, do do do do, come on Jake do-do-do do-do Can't get it Sad what can we man you're fucking killing me? They might be they might be doing interviews cuz you just got hired last week. Okay, maybe they're doing interviews. Um, I Don't think they fired anyone. Okay. I'm sorry Jake. I apologize

Don't apologize like I did you wrong like get mad like say say you off Jake Say I had no right to do say that you had no right to do that Jerry say it just get mad Jake You had no right to do that. No Jake mean it you had no right to do that Yeah, it's pretty good You had no right to do that. Yeah, it was pretty good. It was even faker. Oh, I love the Rams. You know why?

Because they don't score 20 points every week. They like sometimes scored, like sometimes Stafford, Stafford is like 40 points and then some weeks, nothing. It's so fun. The Cardinals. I got to tell you something. Sometimes I'm not allowed to watch football at my house like, because my family's there

and they watch reality TV on Sundays. There's a show called 90 Day for Yonsei that comes on on Sundays that my wife and my children watch. And so we have one, it's like a tuner, like a one tuner that you have to use in our house. So I've been listening to some NFL games this season, like on the serious XM out. Yeah.

And it is interesting listening to a game. And we one week, we streamed Kyler Murray because we had Joe Burrow and that didn't work out well And then I think we had to start Kyler Murray in our in our league And I listened to a Cardinals game the entire game. I was doing like yard work And I was really thinking to myself. I did I've had an edible so I was a little out of it, but I Thought to myself am I the only person in the world listening? It was like week 16. Am I the only person in the world listening to this Cardinals radio telecast? Yeah, probably.

Yeah, you might have been. Yeah, I want to go back. You only have you're only able to watch one show on all the TV's. It's like it was it's like a for a second there. We were we have like a direct TV thing and it was we were only allowed to watch on one tuner, but we fixed that since then. One of our tuners was out. Okay.

Dave Pash voice of the Cardinals, he does ESPN too. He's really good, so he enjoyed. Yeah, no, his voice sounded great. He did a great job. But I didn't- Those are the comments that you don't have to take from Jake. Just so you know. We don't care about the announcer

of the Cardinals Radio Broadcast. You know what they've passed. Don't ever fucking interrupt me again. There it is, don't talk to him about it. There it is. I'm actually not joking. Don't interrupt me. When I'm on a roll, when I'm on a bit,

like don't interrupt me, okay? If Hank is in the middle of his comedy act today and he's like knock knock knock knock. Say it, Jake. Knock knock. Who's there? Don't fucking interrupt me. No. Let me do a hand joke. Knock, doc. Who's there? Epstein Epstein, who? I was I was murdered.

Good job. Great job. I like it. Sorry. Sorry. I'm kidding. kidding Jake we fucking love you calm down by the way you're making me into a mean person I'm not a bully you're turning me into one yeah you did this to yourself Jake yeah and the NFC South absolutely no one not good player love the strongest argument guys that conversation. I'm not even doing it. Strongest argument. Guys, that's it. That's my pitch. Think about it. That's all I got for you.

Yeah. All right. Strong me and Culpeger. How are you feeling about the Super Bowl before we do Hot Seat Cool Throne? Are you going to, you like the Chiefs or the 49ers? You know, I had a pretty terrible year betting on games this year as I told you, I bet on the Bengals right before Joe Burrow's hand fell off. And I had a future on Baltimore because I listened to this podcast

and you somehow fucking got into my brain. Yeah, that's my bad. And I think I was really rooting against Taylor Swift. I just kept betting against Taylor Swift. I was like, you need to learn failure. Like very talented woman, beautiful woman. I've met her wonderful, like a presence, like a presence, like a force.

But like life, life is just like a shit show. It's just like, it's just one let down after another. And- It shouldn't be that easy. Life isn't this easy. It's not that it shouldn't be this easy. Life isn't this, it's not that it shouldn't be this easy, it isn't this easy, it's a nightmare. Life is a nightmare and like the most traumatic thing

to happen to Taylor Swift, I guess, is Kanye saying Beyonce deserved this? Like, is that really that traumatic? It's kind of a cool story. Like if you're like, oh my gosh, Taylor, tell the time that Yay came on stage. Um, I Just I'm just in a bad mood. I'm not and I'm actually I have no idea who's gonna win this game

So I'm not gonna bet on it. I'm just gonna watch it. Okay. Enjoy it. Are you gonna watch? Are you allowed to watch the entire game? I? Think I am I think I am You know, it's funny. I my wife, former supermodel, look it up. Yep. Look it up, Jake. When I look her up, though, it says that your marriage is on the rock. That's a gym. Okay, it's not true. My wife doesn't like football, doesn't like the sound of the NFL. Rebecca Romano-Connell? She doesn't have the O'Connell,

she only took the Stamos and then dropped it. And then I actually took the Stamos. I'm Jerry O'Connell Stamos. Jerry O'Stamos. I tried to take it. Jerry O'Stamos. I'm looking at pictures over, yeah, no, yeah, supermodel. but the only time I'm gonna look her up

The only time I've really um, I was watching. Oh man. I wish Hank was here too bad. He's uh, Knock knock who's there? J6ers J6 or so we were just peaceful protesting J6ers. J6ers too. We were just peaceful protesting. That's good, that's good, yeah. But the only game, the only Super Bowl I really watched from beginning to end with my wife was that

Patriots Falcons game and it was really funny. My wife wasn't watching it, my wife was shopping online, my wife wasn't watching it and it's so funny in the fourth quarter, I can't believe that, I was hate watching it because I wanted to see the Patriots lose and I can't believe that I was hate watching it because I wanted to see the Patriots lose and I couldn't believe what was happening. And my wife looked up from, I don't know,

Wayfair or whatever fucking pillow she was buying, another fucking pillow. Oh God, let's go to Brazil, Max, let's go. Yes, a boys' trip. Let's go to Brazil, Max. Actually that'd be a fun trip, Jerry and Max, let's go. Yes. Boys trip. Let's go to Brazil, Max. Actually, that'd be a fun trip. Jerry and Max, do Brazil. Yeah.

That'd be a great trip. It'd be a great trip. But my wife looked up and went, are the Patriots going to win this game? And that was like, are you watching this? And my wife was like, they were down 28 to three. Are they going to come back and win this game? And I, that was the last sort of like happy moment

we had with each other. Yeah, sounds like she knows ball. Would she like to manage her fancy team? I would be open. Oh God, it's so annoying. My wife was from Northern California. So like all the time now she's like, bang, bang, Niner gang.

It's so stupid. God, that's like bang bang, Niner gang. And he's only the bae. It's so stupid. God, that's another annoying thing about Niner's fans. My wife has like Niner's gear and she wears it and like people on the street are always like bang bang. Is this why you hate the Niners? Is it because it makes your wife happy? It reminds him of his wife.

Yeah. No. No, I like my significant other to be I like everyone to be happy. I'm just I don't know this season was a letdown I let you down as a fantasy owner fantasy manager. No, you are you're the owner. So I'm the manager. Yeah. I hope you find it in your heart to you know, I'm Siri on me and yeah, bring in your coordinators. How about that? I tend to work by myself. I mean, that's who I tend to work with.

And Jake, I'm sorry I jumped on you like that. I'm sorry for interrupting. But just think about it. Who's, yeah, okay. Who's sorry or between Jerry and Jake? They're both so polite. Yeah. I mean, only one of us will lose sleep about it.

So yeah. Uh, before we get into hot before you do hot seat cool throne, there was a fun story that Jake sent to us a couple of months ago about Jerry and an AWL, this podcast. Yes. So Jerry, you you found an AWL's dog. You saved a dog. I have I have a. Man, this is going to really impress everybody here. I have um, I have uh Man, this is gonna really impress everybody here. I have five dogs. Oh

They're all rescues adopt don't shop We do not feed them regular kibble we only feed them farmers dog farmers dog It's so great. They come in the bags you open them. They love it. Yeah, they love it farmers dog is just good stuff but I was running my two younger ones who are kind of crazy and I got to run them around and there was a beautiful golden retriever sitting by themselves in the middle of the street just sitting there in my neighborhood no leash sitting there in my neighborhood, no leash sitting there. And my dogs went crazy,

cause it's like a rogue dog. And like my dogs went over to this dog and they immediately became friendly. And it's so funny dogs like to run in packs, you know? It's like being an AWL, and running and getting a pack, you know? I mean, I'm running around the MGM here. We're all high-fiving each other, taking selfies and stuff.

I had the briefcase down there. People wanted photos of me in the briefcase. And I got the dog, and it's difficult having a dog without a leash, you know? So I was like holding this dog, and I texted the number on the, there was a number on there, and I texted the number, and I said, hey number on there and I texted the number and I said, hey, I got a beautiful golden retriever here. Is this your dog? I think I sent a photo and I said, my name is Jerry O'Connell.

You know, I'm in the neighborhood, your dog's fine. I can hang out here for a little bit. And I immediately got a text back saying, I fucking drafted Darren Waller in the fourth year. And there was very little gratitude for me standing with a dog. And at first I was angry, but again, I, they're right.

I really, like I really led a lot, a lot of people rely on me for their fantasy. Yeah, facts. Pics, facts, you know, strategies, draft strategies. And, you know, again, much like I talked about earlier, money is involved typically. And I felt bad about that. So yeah, it's just funny how my season last season

as your fantasy manager is still following me. But the dog was okay and we sort of had a laugh about it. You're a hero. Yeah, I don't know if I'm a hero. No, you're a hero. Thank you for your service, Chair. No, no, come on, I want my Billy, come on. Here we go.

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Course light comm slash take alright, so Jerry you are sitting in Hank's seat Do you want to go first or we can go first and then come back around to you? Yeah. Yeah you you guys go first Okay, all right. We'll go we'll start with Jake. We'll come around all right your hot seat cool throne My hot seat is met life stadium. Yeah, it was recently announced that the very cursed Stadium in the NFL world will be hosting the 2026 World Cup final. Yes, however I believe they're switching it to grass. They are but it's still cursed. Yeah. FIFA is making them switch to grass. FIFA is also not calling them by the name MetLife Stadium. It's just New York, New Jersey, which made me realize like we don't ever have to call these stadiums by their corporate names if

we don't want to. We'll just be giant stadiums. And it's always Heinz Field to me. It's not Acresher, but yeah. Stale Center. Yeah, Crypto. What is that even? Crypto.com? Crypto.com, yeah. Yeah, not anymore. Yeah. I'm surprised.

Were you upset that you didn't get involved in the FTX? Is that kind of just a level of your celebrity? You weren't there yet? You know, it's funny, just getting back to the whole like waking up with fear, angry at the world thing. I remember when it was all happening, I was like, man, why am I not on this level? Like, how do I, like, by the way,

they were like getting paid and like owner, they were getting paid, not only in like currency, in a currents, they were getting paid and like, it would be like getting paid in a banking system. Like, and I remember feeling What's the word jealousy envy anger and Man, I was so happy when they all got sued it was so Exciting like yeah, pay up Brady. Yeah, Matt Damon you duped us all, you know, it would be like

Telling people to drive like Darren Waller in the fourth night. Exactly. And people believing. Yeah. Cut that one out. Just cut that one out. All right. Your cool throw? My cool throw in his lines, General Manager Brad Holmes.

So he had his, I think it was the end of year press conference and he just roasted the media about their old takes exposed. I don't know if you guys saw any of these quotes. No, but he told someone You wanted us to pick a quarterback. You didn't want us to pick penny Sewell. I know you said that was a miss I get probably two people in this room credit for admitting they were wrong. So he just lashed out I like that. I like it should be held accountable. We're wrong. You tell us where it means people because we're not scared to tell you That you suck. Yeah, you should tell us when we're wrong Tell the meeting when they stop. Yeah. Yeah, so like we're wrong

Tweeted us. We're all go after us. I don't think you should do that. I don't think you should do that I just think you have to like act above Yeah, no, I disagree We're also very petty so yeah, there's a reason why we're not but honestly like One could say that the Eagles downfall began when Someone pretty high up in their coaching organization were yelling at fans and Arrowhead Stadium. Yeah, which is like it's petty You know, yeah, I see what you're saying true But he's probably holding that in in the heat of the moment podium like that would be a great

That would be a great speech to give if they won the Super Bowl. Yeah, yeah, but they lost so like yeah You got to wait you had to hold that one. All right, PFT your hot seat cool throne. My hot seat is Drake Yes, Drake's on the hot seat Jerry. Have you seen? Have you seen the internet today? I have not no all right So Drake international superstar. Yeah, top of his game. I think most number one singles of all time. He was jacking off and the video has penis. He has been I'll put it this way. His penis won't be getting any NFL head coaching opportunities because it's too large and it's too large. Yeah. Big dick. Yeah. Huge dick. God, what a

bummer. It's so much better to hear like you guys were like filming a commercial and you stole glances that Each other's dicks and they weren't big. Yeah, no, we're not like Drake unfortunately Drake I actually think my my conspiracy theory brain tells me that Drake leaked this himself because it's a good angle It's like, you know, and he's got a big dick. He's got a big dick Yeah, so if anything it like my respect for Drake increased to that. What a bummer. Yeah, big bummer. Yeah, they don't make butts big enough in Brazil for his dick.

No insertion, though. Just from the top. Just cranking it, yeah. Hot dog in the bottom. Just cranking it. My cool throne is Chinese spy pigeons. Chinese spy pigeons are on the cool throne. There was pigeon that got it was imprisoned it got arrested in India And it was held in jail for eight months because they thought it was a Chinese spy pigeon

They they saw that it had like these two metal rings on its leg And the metal rings had Chinese writing on it And I guess the Chinese have used spy pigeons before So they imprisoned much like Brittany Griner, they imprisoned this pigeon in India for a long time. They conducted a thorough review of the situation. They found out it was a Taiwanese racing pigeon, which apparently is a thing that you can bet on which sounds awesome. And these pigeons can make like professional athlete salaries, like these pigeons are some of the richest athletes in

the world. And so they determined it was a racing pigeon. They released it. Now it's in a hospital recuperating from its stay in Indian prison. That was a good story. I don't know the name. I want to find out what the name of this pigeon is. But yeah, they did a deep and proper inquiry and investigation. They did not find any fact associated with spying and the pigeon was released last week and it is in fine health according to the hospital. So a good story with a good ending. They should have had like a pigeon a prisoner exchange like a exchange with like a war crimes pigeon. A Chinese warlord gets returned from India for the other pigeon and then they pass each other on the tarmac. other pigeon and then they pass each other on the tarmac. Yeah.

Like Bridges Spies. Yeah. Yeah. That would rock. All right. I got two hot seats. One is, I guess cable. No, no cable might be on the cool throne. ESPN, Fox and Warner Brothers are all combining. So we just have cable again. Yeah. So into another like a it's for sports, right? Yeah. So I guess maybe the hot seat is just us forever believing that we were gonna not end up back a cable. Yeah So let me just ask this so Fox Sports and ESPN are because I know they are the same company. It's Fox Warner Brothers and ESPN and so is there gonna be a like I because some there's I know there's a Fox Sports and an ESPN But I know they're both owned by Disney Are they gonna be one channel is emerging? I think they're teaming up for like an app. For streaming service, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. All right. Yeah, so I don't know, it's stupid. Just let me watch all the sports. I don't care. Stop with those shit, just tell me where to watch. ESPN Warner Brothers and Fox are launching a new sports streaming service

combining each company's sports rights. Which I like for one reason though, because going back and forth between ESPN and Fox Sports on your phone or tablet on a college football Saturday sucks. It sucks ass. So I'm very glad about this. All right. Then my other hot seat PFT alluded to it. Mike Vrabel for being too big.

Incredible Pulitzer prize winning journalist Diana Rossini who only reports facts. Yep. Scoops Rossini is what they're calling her. Yep. She said that she had a GM at the senior bowl who mentioned to me, Vrabel's physical build that he's a very large human being and can be very intimidating to people in an organization that are going to be part of these decisions and that is a factor. It's always, I mean you have to understand if you're a football owner, large human beings, you don't want to be around them. No, they will they be able to communicate effectively with other large human beings? Yeah. You want a nerd? Yeah. You want a tiny little nerd? I do like

the idea though of owners just being intimidated by big people. Yeah. Just like, I don't want to deal with this guy. He could kick my ass. Yeah. Very bull is he is a large human being. And then my cool throne is Andy Reid, who is not going to retire. Wow. He had noted small guy successful football coach Andy Reid. Yeah. Yeah. He they did a big article about him on ESPN where he was all just football guy quotes where he said he'll spend a couple hours day on football, whether he's watching video or drawing up plays for possible inclusion in the playbook. He said, I enjoyed doing that. Some people read novels. I look at plays. They interviewed Dave Tobe, special teams coach. He said, football is his hobby.

This is all he does. I'm trying to get Andy to play golf. I'm trying to get him to go hunting. He just won't do it. Andy Reid also has a bucket list that he won't reveal, but he said there are things you want to do. I try to chip away at them. There's nothing huge. it went to Italy last summer good eating I ate my way from the north to the south and then Patrick Holmes said other than spending time with his grandkids he doesn't do any of that stuff he's all about football and cheeseburgers I'd I have to get my hands on this bucket list for me to read I gotta know it's just eating in different countries yeah eating

my way through different I went to this country I'm gonna eat some more. My prediction, they won the Super Bowl, he probably goes to France. Yeah. Eats his way through France. Eats his way through France. All right, Jerry, finish this off, Hot Seat Cool Throne. Hot Seat Cool Throne, my Hot Seat is Hank. Okay.

Tonight is doing comedy and I wanna say, I've really been thinking about him. He's been in my thoughts and I- You think so too as well? Well, I know that Hank went and did the comedy store or something in Chicago. Lafactory, yeah. Lafactory, sorry.

I know those are two different teams. Yeah, two for. And I really hope that he, cause he could go up and he could be quite effective if he tells his story of Barstool. I think that's what he's gonna do. Because that to me is what we want to hear. By the way, I already got the pay-per-view. I'm already getting it. Jake, give it a plug.

Barstool.tv slash PPV. Well, this is coming out tomorrow. You can still buy it. You can still get it. Look, there's no linear viewing anymore or whatever they call it. I know you're talking about the ESPN Fox Sports app, but whatever. I hope he just tells his story. Yeah, fucking Max with the yawn when I'm talking. I don't know who the fuck- Are you boring you Max? You're bored. That's disrespectful.

The fuck, a huge loud yawn? I'd rather you farting in fucking 33B on the light over. Max, what the fuck? Max, were you worried that your behavior on a plane was so, so abhorrent that Hank was gonna come put a hole in your wall? No. I was not worried about that.

Yep. Okay, now I got it. It took a little while for me to get it. Delayed onset, yeah? Yep, now I'm good, I'm good, I'm good. Max, I'm a fucking guest and you yawn loudly in the middle of me telling my hot seat? And now what he did was he passed it to me.

I'm about to yawn. man who are you Hank um and my cool throne is Hank okay I have such an intense attraction to Tiffany Gomez it is it's actually am, I'm obsessed with her. I'm obsessed and I'm gonna tell you why. I've thought about it. You know, I follow her on social media and I even, I don't slip into DMs. I'm not a lunatic. That's a very non-horny way of saying I follow her

on Instagram, by the way. Follow her on Instagram, but I even leave comments like looking good girl URL like G URL like go Mavs. I'm not even a Mavs man. She's like always in a Jersey. She's always going to sporting events. She's beautiful. Her hair is perfect. I think the thing I'm most attracted to is that there's a real mental issue there There's a real mental issue there that I don't know if it's drug induced.

Like those people are fucking real. I see those people. Like Hank put a hole in her wall. And if I did that in my house, if I went up to a wall in my house and ran my knee in there, I'm not allowed to put a cup of water on a table without using a coaster. If there's a water ring there, I'm not having sex for years. I mean, years. If I, if I like wear a pair of shoes in the house and there's like a speck of dirt on them,

like I'm not touching my wife, like touching her for years. And here's a woman who is going to Cowboys Games and Hank is kicking holes in her wall and he spent not only the weekend there, he was there till Tuesday, Wednesday. Yeah, couldn't fly back. I'm really, I gotta give it to Hank, that That's it's good work. Really is good work. Really attracted to her. Look, I don't want Tiffany don't at me. I don't want any communication. Please no no

communication. Right. No DMs nothing please respect. I don't want to go down that road. Can't have a trace of that. Yeah, but I'm upset like I'm Hank is in my cool throne for just being in the presence of The most beautiful woman in the world Jerry I just added needs to the list. Yeah bonk list You're on the bonk list. Have you closed your eyes and thought about them Jerry? Be honest I Have you closed your eyes and thought about them, Jerry? Um, be honest.

I. You know, I want answers. I don't want to get like into like, honestly, I've thought more about Max. T.F. and now B.F. and that's an image. Yeah. Yeah. That's an image like I haven't like I don't have an image of a of a Hank and Tiffany Gomez. That's good. Gomez.

You got it right. Yeah. Well, Jerry, thank you as always. Oh man. You are the best. We love you so much. No real back question. No, we already did it with Boomer.

Oh, okay. You want one? Well, I mean, I just, I just wrote a couple of things down. Oh, okay, yeah. Um, I can just go through. It's not a RHOBACK8. How do you spell it? Whatever, how do I spell it?

RHOBACK8. Sometimes I write a little poem. I know I let everybody down this season with my fantasy managing. Think about it, guys, think about it. But I wrote a little poem. I like to pick someone out on the staff. Yeah, and just write just a few words for them.

And this episode I chose Max. Mm, yeah. This is a poem from Max. Okay. Love it. Maxi, Maxi, Maxi. To the man with the beautiful beard and also the beautiful hair. Maxi, Maxi, Maxi. To the man with the beautiful beard and also the beautiful hair.

Maxi, Maxi, Maxi. To the man who is really, really good at keeping a balloon up in the air. Maxi, Maxi, Maxi. To our friend who's always entertaining and as for punishments, you are a glutton. Maxi, Maxi, Maxi. Our friend whose career-defining moment was forgetting to hit the recording button. Way to go Maxi Maxi Maxi your work here pardon my take is nothing short of genius Maxi Maxi Maxi whether it's helping the boys with edits or telling them to steal glances that big cats micro penis Maxi Maxi Maxi your team won a lot of games your to be through a lot of darts Maxi Maxi Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, your team won a lot of games. Your tubey threw a lot of darts. Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, asking for a friend.

What is the monthly fee for subscribing to only farts? Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, when defending your Philly fandom, never do you ever refrain? Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, your vocabulary is verbose, even though the only book you've ever read was Girl in a Train. That's a good book, huh? I like it.

Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, hearing about your titty fucking prowess never ever fails. Whether you're titty fucking in overalls or titty fucking in pigtails. Titty fucking with Stroud, titty fucking with Goff, titty fucking with DeVito, titty fucking with the Barstool Sports Store that has 20% off. Titty fucking on the streams, Titty fucking on the show, Titty fucking on Viva La Stool, Titty fucking with an infected toe.

Titty fucking in the summer, Titty fucking in the fall, Titty fucking in the spring, Titty fucking little you small. Titty fucking with the Kelceys, Titty fucking with Tay-Tay, Titty fucking with my homes, Titty fucking little boy ass-boy. Maxie, Maxie, Maxie is the king of Titty fucking. It all must just go to your head.

Titty fucking, Titty fucking, Titty fucking, Titty fucking, Titty fucking your ex's best friend, right in her own bed Maxi maxi maxi you put up with so much like having to find a sink where big cat can go poo poo Maxi maxi maxi having to sit through everyone's takes and Jake doing that stupid Do it Do it. Do-do-do-do. I fucking hate it.

But Maxi, Maxi, Maxi, we love you on the show. You're the best. You're the man. You are the bomb. Maxi, Maxi, Maxi. We love our angry little Philly fan. But remember to watch your mouth or you'll get a text from the mom. Max Salenti, everybody.

Good job, Max. Good job, Jerry. Proud of you, Jerry. We love you so much. You're such a great part of this show. So thank you for stopping by. Thank you for wearing that jacket. Thank you for being you. We love you.

We love you. All right, let's kick it to the Schwarm. Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. It is a Super Bowl week tradition, which is actually my favorite thing that this has become a tradition. It's third year in a row. We have the Schwam, Chris Berman in our studio this time.

I love it. We're not in a hotel in Southbury, which by the way, you were the most gracious host the last two years, but we wanted to host you this year. So the Schwarm is here. I mean, it really is a dream for PFT and I to have you be a Super Bowl, you know,

every single year tradition having you on this show. Well, A, it's nice to be in the house, not the house that Ruth built, but the house that part of my take. Yeah, I think it's really an amazing complex that you fed me lunch. Now you're now you're gonna get the better side of me. Yeah, it is nice. And I'm proud of you guys. Yeah, thanks for being fans of football. I've told you this every time. And somehow along the line, you

you enjoy the way we give you football. Yeah, I mean, big catch, right? The secret genius thing that we did at the start was we all got COVID, so we couldn't interview you the first time we wanted to. So then we had to reschedule making you a Super Bowl week guest and then doing it two years in a row. Now it's like you have to do this every single year. We got to do it.

Well, actually, this is a binding. It's a binding job. Oh, yeah. I can't refuse. Oh, it's an offer you can't refuse. Yeah. So here's the thing. I know it's not going to run till,

but the day we're taping it, of course, remember we had this last year. It's the second, which is Groundhog State, which is do, do, do, do today. It is do, do, do, do today. We had to bring that back. Yes, of course. It's do, do, do, do, day.

Why wouldn't we do it today? Yeah, yeah. He didn't see his shadow, right? So we're getting early spring. Oh yeah, that's, you know what? Was there a book on that? I don't know. Yeah, I'm sure you could bet on that. Well the north half the country hasn't seen the sun in 10 days anyway. That's right. That was an easy under. Yes. Yes. Yes. What we got to do we got

to go back and look throughout history when the groundhog does not see a shadow is that good for the underdog in the Super Bowl. Yeah. a correlation. There's gotta be a correlation there. We'll have our best guys look at it. You know what? They used to have this, remember, it took it not till recently that it would be after Groundhogs Day. You'd have to go that far back.

It's true. Yeah, that's true. Easy research. Yes, easy research. So the Schwam you're here, we wanna talk Super Bowl, we wanna talk everything. So let's start with Super Bowl. I was rooting so hard for the Schwami Super Bowl.

We were yet again, like I thought the Bills. We were believers. You have the Niners there, but it was, you know, we come that close again, but Chiefs Niners, initial thoughts. Well, I looked at going into the season before anybody played a game. They were two of the three favorites, if you will. Right. So the fact that however they got there, we'll start with the Niners.

The fact that they're there is not a surprise. Now we can get into them a little bit because neither of their playoff wins were quote great, but the key word in that sense is wins. Yep. Right. So and they came from behind which especially the Lions game however they did it you know it shouldn't have gambled they did it right so kudos to them. The Chiefs have gone the polar route okay they went from the favorites and I know them quite well. And usually Andy reads teams, or most teams that go somewhere are rolling around Thanksgiving or early December

since the season goes longer. I think it was Christmas day, they lost to the Reaers. But it was like they kind of assumed that they were gonna to be them who were going to score 40 points. Well, maybe 33, we drop a few, but we'll be all right. We better realize right now what we're not and what we are, but we're good enough to win with what we are.

Yup. That's to Andy, that's to Patrick Mahomes, that's to Steve Magnolo, that's to anybody you mentioned. Like they, I don't want to say swallow your pride because this was late in the year. So the Chiefs, I'll let you ask the next question. No, no, you're right. But the Chiefs made the Super Bowl and not the Chiefs you expected to make the Super Bowl.

Correct. But having watched them win in Buffalo and Miami was, you know, minus 15, they were going to win that, I think, right? But they still held them to seven, although I don't know how they were gonna score a lot of points in that. Right, right.

But to win in Buffalo and to win at Baltimore with really, really low scoring 17, you went on the road, a championship game where you've never gone, but there it is with who they are, but it took them to Christmas to go. We ain't going anywhere for like that. So it's just interesting the route that they've taken. Yeah, they are.

And we've made the analogy many times, like everyone in media has, but it is the New Age Patriots in that you have these seasons where it's like, oh, because, you know, even in the Patriots, like the 07 season, they don't win the Super Bowl. That's the best team they ever had, 18 and all that. But those years when it's like, oh, is build, is Tom Brady too old, is Bill Belichick lost in? Like they stumble a little early

and then it comes to December and January and they find a way and that's what the Chiefs are doing. They're finding ways. So here's my question though, because it's great because you have seen all this football. You were a football historian. If Patrick Mahomes wins this Super Bowl, where is he in terms of the Montana Brady? Because it feels like he's inching closer and closer at a very young age. He's already in that discussion, although he would be the first to tell you why I have one,

two, but I would love to, so to answer your question. He's this ages Brady or this generation or this decades Brady Montana and then You want to put in Johnny United, but he did you know, yeah, correct He's already there because the potential is he 28 28 years old. I still think of him as 22 and 23. Oh, madam There's something about him see it's funny I still think of him as 22 and 23. I met him. There's something about him. See, it's funny. Now I went out and interviewed him a couple of weeks ago. And one of the things I told him,

and this is how you know he's, I said, you know that Tom's early Super Bowls, when they won three out of four years, by the way, they were not the stars. Now, Tom Brady drives end of game Vinnit Terry field goal, etc. But it was defense to the Carolina game with it But but but they were more defense in 010304. Yeah, and running especially in 04. They had Dylan I Said you know that that wasn't the high-flying Tom that you probably have watched he goes actually

I've studied those games and I see how Tom was and then, obviously the 0-17, he came, yeah. And lost with 50, 25 touchdowns, whatever. Then at the last one, that one was 13-3. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

3-3 in the fourth quarter, I think. Yeah. I think it was tied with the ramp. I bet the over in that game. He goes, I did. It's why do we remember the ones, I think it was tied with the ramp. So I bet the over in that game goes. I did. Why do we remember the ones you remember the ones that are like so bad so bad.

But like like we were just talking Denver and Seattle. Like we never remember the ones that were we're genius. Nope. But anyway back to that he goes and I've studied the way Tom altered his game several times. Like this is I wasn't fishing for that answer. Right. I just wanted to make the point that I live those Patriots. They were a defensive team with I mean name name the players right and then the beginners and Teddy Bruce Key and big Ted Washington and Ty Law at the car we could go on and on around and I'm a variable a little later on and etc.

He goes I studied. Okay. So you've actually gone back and watched maybe 20 years ago, Patriots to see how the goat, if you will, did it. Fascinating to me. Yeah, he gets it. That's great. Yeah, it's interesting to see how they've done it. And I feel like we watched that Ravens game last week and everybody thought the same thing, which is why are you giving your running back six carries against the Chiefs defense? Why don't you run the ball down their throat? I feel like and going back to that Christmas day game I'm pretty sure that's how the Raiders beat them. I think they just ran the ball at them I think they did just like you can't stop the run I think that bodes well for the Niners and their ground game could Christian McCaffrey

I feel like the the creative stuff they do with the run game Like it's beautiful to watch Kyle Shanahan's system, isn't it? Like you watch him run the ball and you're like, this is beautiful football. And I feel like that's what they're gonna lean into. That's gonna be their strength and the weakness of the Chief's defense,

I think, is stopping the run. I mean, Chris Jones is great, but I think that's gonna be the game plan. So that might be a good thing for your 49ers. No, can be. You that might that might be a good thing for your 49ers. No, can be you know Buffalo ran For a while and but then cook had a big first hit right. I mean he had pretty good game in the play You're right about it being beautiful because

Anyone that thinks they can okay if D. Bo which he is now right? They're all healthy right that flow But it's not okay. This is kind of the plays they run. No, no, it's kind of he he changes it up. And of course, Debo and McCaffrey, but especially Debo, but McCaffrey is unbelievable. I mean, he's he runs like a guy almost Derek Henry size. Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. I mean, not really. But So their yak with the running game let alone in the passing game is formidable the chiefs though And so I actually John Harbaugh gave me an interesting thought on cuz he good friends with Spags They work together at Philly he had him at Baltimore for a little bit. They stay close in this group. I Said is there any tendency you can get

on Spags's defense before the game? He goes, he meant this as an ultimate compliment, which is going into your Shanahan comment. So, he's a Rolodex approach. I mean, what do you mean? You know, wow, there's so much in that Rolodex that if I start to, he didn't say this, start to okay, so when it's third and eight,

they always bring three guys, I'm making it up. No, there's not, and I think with Kyle, it's fascinating. It is beautiful to watch, I give you for that. It is, it is. They have all stars at so many places. Yeah. And they're all, they're so physical too. You've got Debo and watching Kittle Block, those two guys, they get incorporated in the

run game and they bring them in motion to give them head starts on blocks sometimes. It's just, it's beautiful to watch it develop. It's not that, you know, like you think of old school football, you run the ball, you run the ball up the middle, up the middle, up the middle. It feels like a passing game in their rushing attack, like buried deep inside of it. And it's just, it's been awesome to watch. And I'm also rooting for Trent Williams to get a Super Bowl. I think he's a great player. He's been such a good player for such a long time. I'd like to see him get one. He was on all the reiterations of the Washington teams, right? They called him, he probably was on the Boston Redskins where they

moved, right? So do we, who do we have nickname-wise in this superbook? Oh, you know, well, the best is, and John Lynch loves this when I do it, it's for Debo, I mean, I've resurrected what I used to use for Lido Shepherd. Okay. But it's the Lido shuffle by Boss Gags. Debo, whoa.

And if he takes it to the house, the part of that song is one more for the road. Pardon my singing, pardon my take, pardon my singing. So I used to use that, remember Lito Shepard, he's back, but I moved it up here. So of that, see, Mahomes, he's so good. I mean, when he first came in, I kinda used, Mahomes is where my heart is, but

he's so good now that it's like you don't. But this is important, like you see the hat I'm wearing right now, someone says the 49ers versus the Chargers Super Bowl, the first thing that comes to my mind, nature on means business. That's it. That's what I think I'm right about. Who else was on that team?

Chargers. Yeah. Eric's sleeping with the enemy. Yup, yup, yup, like that's it. You know, you think of. You know who else was on that team? Chargers. Yeah. Eric's sleeping with the enemy. Yup, yup, yup. Like that's it. You know, you think of the classic games. It's like the nickname just popping your head. I think those, well, now let's go back to my hosts.

One of your most genius, if that's correctly phrased. And you know the backstory there, but your viewers and listeners don't know it. When you last year had, I want to rock and roll all night and purdy every day. Genius. Everyone knows the song. You're not quoting some song.

What song is that? No, no, no, no, we've all heard that. Even with the like, Tissue or not. And then we were ready to go in the championship game and of course he got hurt right away and forget it, right? Not his fault. I had it on my fastest three minutes.

You guys know this because we called you. Yeah. I'm gonna give you boys a big shout out, a big viewership Aaron Rogers who knew that carrying the flag was the highlight of the year but you know the jets opening up blah blah blah buffalo and that was at halftime but then when Aaron got hurt I got cut. Yes I know even the fastest three minutes got cut news where I get it and then there were a couple of games that there was I can only use a player to in these things and and then mid-season

Yep, had Josh Krullewitz our PR as call you go Tune in yeah, son. So I give you guys. Yeah big out of boy because that was genius It was I mean it was an honor. It's like we got I tagged in every single tweet like he did it He did it the ultimate compliment. So yeah, that made my season. It made my season. I didn't realize that. That's funny that you were ready to go opening night and then there are Rodgers. No, I don't think Josh,

I might not have because you're opening, you know, oh my God, you know. That's so funny. Yeah, it's on a cutting room floor somewhere. Yeah, I remember when we had our good friend, Boogaron, we were trying to get him To tell you to use that trying to get you like an inception style like hey mention this one to boom mention this one Boom and we were talking earlier about about booger and how your relationship is growing with him

Boogers a great co-host for you guys. He does a fantastic job And it's not an easy job that you guys have to do you were saying you have to just sit down and then boom He gets 20 seconds per highlight clip. It's like give us something good that we can work with. But how has your relationship with him grown? Like did you know day one, me and Booger, we can do this? Well, I had met him a little bit with Tampa, a little. So I knew of him before he even became on our SEC network

and everything. And then they put him, I was network and everything and then they put him I Was a fan of his when they put him in that impossible position the booger mobile. Yeah, yeah, I had a smile But it wasn't just like showbiz. Like He was seeing things You know where the old camera used to be when I was younger and it on the cart in the front and blocking the view of the fans Like he's come up with some good stuff but he has no shot not nobody John Madden wouldn't have had a shot okay just to put it in

perspective so then when we resurrected Primetime for ESPN plus which I think we talked about before which was we can't do it on on regular TV we can for the championship and and and the Super Bowl, which we will, right after the trophy. So don't go to sleep yet, tune in us. But no, you guys, man, if you don't ever sleep. But he, and Tommy, we got Tommy back. Tom Jackson is, come on.

Yeah. Who's better than Tommy? Yeah. One of my best friends to this day we talk every week or two, football and life and stuff and that was a blast working with him and but then he goes boom I that said well I came back the one year I'm done and then who's gonna do it and a couple of recommendations in-house and very strongly recommended Booger I said my only question for him not me is is there a stigma to the public and it'll probably go away quickly but though the Booger Mobile that means he's he doesn't know what he's talking about which would be

completely false right a legitimate question to ask I said I'll put that into your park no we think he's great is this isn't let's go because he's upbeat he loved football yep he's good at it one two rings which doesn't necessarily make you smarter than anyone else but you got it yeah yeah with two different teams played with Peyton's last year with Colts you know on that great Bucks defense with four Hall of Famers from the defense yeah and we hit it off right away because he's not he's not out to be I don't want to say the star who I'm the star that I don't mean that he's not out to to say things. Oh, everybody will see that. Yeah, right. It's not what that show is. And he's

got something. Sometimes I'm a little behind on highlights. I mean, nobody's perfect. He might've had a little 10 second thing that we were gonna talk about, but I'm behind, I gotta go to the next play. You know, sit there and sulk and go, well, that was the only chance to get in. The way Trent Williams is blocking, for example, right?

Yeah. He's got something no matter what I ask him. He's a joy. Tommy 2.0. Yeah, and he's incredible. It helps those names Booger too. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, I hate a guy named Boomer.

Boomer and Booger. Yeah. That's perfect. He just changed one letter. It's not really that hard. Van Alwight could do it. Right? By the way, Jake looked it up.

Since 2000, when Phil does not see his shadow, the favorites are 4 and 2. Oh. Against his eyes. Oh, so does not very many. Because the game is where he's at. And also did not shadow. He usually sees his shadow. Oh, and he doesn't see his shadow, the favorites are four and two. Oh. Oh, so there's not very many. Yeah, not many. And also the not shadow, he usually sees his shadow. Oh, and he, when he doesn't see his shadow.

Not shadow means you got winter. Yep. No, not shadow means spring. Spring. So that's what happened this time. But you're four and two. So if you want to go with that trend, and he went and looked it up, he did a great job. Shout out Jake.

So maybe we, maybe it's the nine or I've already said I'm done betting against my homes. I've lost four futures in the last two years. It's over the library. Yeah. I can't do it. I can't. It's like you get to a point with Sabin or Belichick. You bet on a game and you have an outcome where it's like you win or lose.

But when you bet on a game against Sabin or Belichick, you can lose and also feel really stupid because you bet against Saban or Belichick. They didn't go 100%. But that's how you feel. And that's where Mahomes is now where it's like, okay, I'd rather lose with Mahomes than lose going against Mahomes. And everyone says, how do you not bet on Mahomes?

Well, he's an underdog again. I know. I know a pointer to two as we speak. Yeah. But they're actually, I've reminded myself, they were getting one or two last year, which is a great Super Bowl. Yep.

Yep. With the Eagles. Yep. But they've been an underdog on the road a Buffalo and Baltimore. I mean, so here's the thing with him. To your point, I mean, when Tom Brady got the ball, I mean, I'm not just pointing to 28 to three, obviously. Right. I mean, you felt you had a chance. Right. If you're unless

you're down 28 to three with two minutes to go. Unlikely. Okay. Don't you feel good if you're on Mahomes and the game is good down 10, five minutes to go, not necessarily feeling good because that means Niners are playing really good deep. How about down 10 with eight minutes to go against the San Francisco 49ers in the Super Bowl? That happened. Yeah. And the Holmes. Or how about down,

That literally happened. How about down with 13 seconds to go. Right, right. So, right. Not 10. Yeah. But three. Yeah.

And so, You're watching I'm not saying a nine or play is dumb because they have all stars at every level We went through the offense didn't even mention use check or I you yeah Or third or third in Juwan. That's what they call them Juwan Jennings. Yeah, they call him third in Juwan See there you go. Yeah, that's not mine. Oh, yeah, you do By the way Brock Purdy he runs pretty good in case nobody knows. Yeah, not bad, right? Yeah.

In case that's a little element. And then defensively, when I'm getting back to it, Nick Bose's second half, I'm not saying where were you. I mean, he's double and triple, but we didn't see him wreck a game like a TJ Wider, like Garrett did for two-thirds of the season with Cleveland etc. I'm not knocking Nick but when is and we got it in the second half

yeah now is that what you see in the Super Bowl? Yeah. When he's like that and Armstead and Chase Young's not looked good there, but that's not to say in 60 minutes, see, you know, there it's a four man rush, not that nobody rushes four, but they always can rely, they don't have to bring because they get pressure of like five when it's four, when they're like that. Now, the Chiefs offensive line is maybe

the most underrated playoffs. They've been playing great. Even though two of these out. Yeah. And like, yeah, Patrick Holmes the first time we got sacked in the playoffs, second half against Baltimore. It's crazy.

Like they really are very underrated. And that is, it's the thing that I just can't like give the Chiefs enough credit because Mahomes Mahomes. But the conscious decision they made when they're like, all right, Tyree Kale, you're going to go to Miami. And we're going to invest in the offensive line and we're going to get young on the defense because this guy, Mahomes gives us a

shot no matter who's catching balls. And those guys have gotten a lot better, but it's proven this year, they're in the Super Bowl. And what was the story all year? They got no wide receivers. Nice, see where she writes and like, they that's how you build a team around a player like my hopes Well, yeah, they took it to the limit a little bit, but you know and watching them against Baltimore By the way rice is now and of course flowers so that they kind of they had better offensive weapons than Baltimore did certainly in the passing game And you know, yeah, they were dropping stuff left and right like it was Who can catch Pacheco can catch on a

screen little McKinnon who's hurt can catch screens was a good receiver but that's not your until Rishi Rice well he had a nice year all the way yeah him certain things that's why Kelsey didn't get open for six weeks I know yeah but but all of a sudden if Rice is is working, Kelsey can get open, even if they's hammered at the leg, you know, and he knows they've been doing it his whole career. So, they don't, and scantling, Val, does scantling, yeah, big ball at the end? He caught two the week, and he's one of the more popular guys

in the team, so they're like, yeah, no team was fired up for him. But that being said, so the one little curve ball on the Niners, sounds like I'm all this way, I'm not, because that rush can negate a lot of things, and Warner and Greenlaw are outstanding, duh. Tell you, and you know, their DBs, they had a lot of interceptions at the end of the year.

Ward said a really former chief, but they, if you look stats, which sometimes, doesn't tell the whole story. No, never do. Teams have made hay here and there. I don't mean made hay with the secondary, but that's where they go. No, you're right. Especially Green Bay.

Green Bay kind of exploit him a little bit. Yeah. And that was a game that the Niners could have very easily lost. But yeah, Ambrie Thomas, is that his name? Yeah, Ambrie Thomas. Specifically him. He's had some very shaky games. Yeah. So that makes me a little bit, but I do feel like Andy Reed is in love with throwing the football.

I don't think he's ever going to be a guy that hands the ball off, you know, 25, 30 times a game. But Pacheco's good enough, especially in playoff weather, where Reed thinks about it now. He's like, maybe I should give. They did give. The Ravens game. I think it was like 20, 24.

Maybe I should give Pacheco the ball a little bit more, which I like from Andy. Yeah. Being able to adapt a little bit, because if there's one guy I thought would never adapt to something like that, it would be Andy Reed Andy Reid you know like going back to the Bryan Westbrook days and all that stuff but it seems to me like they do have they've got a running game that you have to account for which is a little bit different for the Chiefs. Yeah well but where did Andy where

was he was an offensive lineman so even though he's a passing guru and I call him the grandson of Bill Walsh okay because I Bill Walsh is to me Bill Walsh okay Mike Holmgren is the direct descendant we might have discussed this once direct descendant other people around the west coast but you know what oh ten of us are run of the west coast like ee Mike Andy Reid was with Mike for those 10 years, almost 10 years in Green Bay and kinda, that's the direct line. So yes, he's passing, but he also was an offensive lineman. So he's going back to his roots

and if he didn't this year late, I don't think they'd be playing in this game. Back to one thing on Chiefs, that I don't know the public has understood, of course you understand it We're seeing whether they win or lose um I mean we know what the numbers are but but four out of five

In the Super Bowl. Yeah And d4 doesn't step over there. They would have been in that one. Yeah, uh in it. It beaten the Patriots. I mean, but he did So the only ones that have gone four and five years to appear Buffalo Needles to say right? Yeah, and and New England ladder New England 14 1617 18 so there were three and one in those This doesn't happen especially now when you're losing We'd they had Tyree kill.

Yeah. Well, no, they don't. So this is whether you want the Chiefs to win, you guys, to win or lose, or you wanted the Niners, whatever. Appreciate that this doesn't happen. And if we get a repeat champ, it's been 19 years. Yeah. Yeah.

Now I'm 68. Okay. Now, before that Now I'm 68, okay? Now before that was once a decade, right? The Packers when they started the Super Bowl and then the Steelers twice and then the Niners, which I lived. Then obviously the Cowboys and then the Patriots. Broncos.

Broncos, my bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. Yeah, so that was more often I didn't mean to admit I'm in LA at the end that was unbelievable and they knocked out the Packers didn't Broncos have been going through it the last five years yeah shanah and then McAffrey on that but then but after yeah oh 304 so it's 19 years so if it doesn't happen this year and whoever wins has a chance to repeat next year, I get it. 19 plus 68 is 87.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna not see another one. It's, it is. I kind of wouldn't mind seeing this. Yeah, yeah. No, you're right though. It is crazy to think that it would happen every decade you'd get a repeat and it's been a long time.

Now to the largest credit. The largest credit. They've been in championship game. They've had a chance to their credit the same five years. Right, right? And if Brock Purdy doesn't get hurt, I think they would kill the Eagles. Might have, maybe not killed,

but I think you're getting a free cheesesteak in Philly. Now our producer Max is a big Eagles fan and he's not here today, but he is rooting very hard against the Niners because he doesn't want his NFC championship last year to be negated. It's the most ridiculous fandom thing like he is. It's from Philly right? Yeah. If the Niners. There you go. I love them. I mean, Cindy Reeb was there and I was tight but Philly is more than any fan base and I say this with full applaud Blinders yeah, I college guys on my dorm like do you not know that there's a team other than the flyers in the NHL

Yeah, it's in the 70s. No, you know my god. Yeah, it's the best though It's so great like yeah, they they are hyper focused on their teams and they they don't really tolerate you if you lose. Yeah, I mean, next year, Artie went to a Super Bowl and they wanted them fired this year. Yeah, yeah, very quick. That's like, that was it. Right, and here's TSA line leaving Phoenix last year. Couple Philly fans, hey, great game.

Yeah, you're standing on line with Perfect Strangers for 45 minutes, so much. They know who I am, they there all at the game, right? I said, your quarterback played great. Just making conversation. She goes, yeah, but that fumble, like. Yeah. Yeah.

That's it. That's really. Yes, the fumble, yeah, it was big, but just, he played great. Take a compliment. But it was like, hey, the fumble, I don't know, you know, it was like, have a good flight. We're gonna get back to Boomer in a second.

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42 straight Super Bowls. Is your 42nd Super Bowl? I started with the Niners first one at Super Bowl 16. Okay. Silver Dome. So that's 42. Yeah. I missed one full leg cast once upon a time.

Yeah. I missed the Packers winning with R. So 41. Yeah. Yeah, 41st Super Bowl. I mean, that's incredible just in itself. I am lucky to be in that position. Yeah. I mean, ESPN, I mean, like we discussed, who knew?

I mean, you guys started the show eight years ago. Yeah, we have a dream or a vision or this, and then we got some backing in the day. But yeah, now now look you have you said with his pickup basketball and I walked on the court I thought I was in like an NBA court so um yeah it I have to pinch myself wouldn't we know that you say that I mean I do think of it when I go I still remember the first one like oh my god I'm at the Super Bowl. You know you're a kid I mean I'm really in my 20s. And the people that you've met that you know the game that we all in this

show loves and those who listen and watch they love they get to go to that and and really be down there and feel and touch it and interview the players and the coaches and make some observations that maybe you're okay or just maybe like whoa be like a fan. Yeah. Yeah. It's incredible because that's and what you just described I think is why people are drawn to you and football and how you tell the game because I think that, that like boyhood wonder

if you lose it, that's the problem. Like I know myself and I think I'm speaking for PFT like the fact that you're here right now, I wanna pinch myself. And so like having that though, you're like, whoa, this is pretty damn cool that we get to do this for a living. If you lose that, then you probably lose your fans.

Well, you're acting. Yeah, yeah. Probably acting to continue, not you. Yeah. One's acting if they're, if your biggest calling card is a fan, everyone's a fan who does sports, Bob Lee totally different than me,

complete respect, but you wouldn't say, fan, he likes it, but he's report, but. Right. If you're a fan, like you guys obviously are, and you're still doing your shows, and you're kinda losing it a fan, like you guys obviously are, and you're still doing your shows and you're kind of losing it a little, the fandom, it's gonna seep through a little bit. Those are watching carefully,

not that they're looking for it. No, it's true. I didn't go to sleep last night because Wisconsin blew a 17 point lead at Nebraska. And I said, I'm going to sleep at 10 o'clock. And then at 1130, I was like, just kidding, I'm not asleep, I'm going to sleep at 10 o'clock. And then at 11 30, I was like, just kidding. I'm not asleep. I'm still mad. I still got it.

I would actually say that I've gotten, I've gotten to be a bigger fan since we started doing the show. Really? Because you pay attention more. Now it's like, okay, we watch every second of every game. Yeah. And it's actually just making us, I don't know. I that's the way that I feel. I do too. I know more about it now. And you feel it's also like people, people ride with you, people, you know,

give you shit when your team loses. So it's like the stakes have gotten higher for us at times. Yeah, that's true. It's, it really used to suck to lose, but at least it's like, all right, I'll just go to work the next day and not have to deal with. Well, now it's like I lose. I have Nebraska basketball doing memes in my face.

And I'm like, well, this hurts. And then I just talk shit. That was why you had to hay out there. Yeah, right. It I'm like, well, this hurts. And I just talk shit. Hey, it's also like if you lose, I know that there's a lot of people, a lot of sickos that listen to show that like to hear us when we're in pain. And granted, like that's that's what this is. Sometimes it's like, OK, you listen to this podcast. Sometimes hearing misery is more fun than than hearing joy.

If you're not experiencing that joy. And so now every time I have a chance to experience joy, it's like you get that me against the world mentality a little bit where you're like okay all right let's see if we can do this. And also I'm thinking out loud here but the fact that now Dan Snyder is no longer the owner of the commanders means that I can actually like full on invest in the team. So I think I can definitely say that I'm way more a fan now than I was eight years ago. And it's kind of cool. Yeah.

Well, because your dial, yes, because the job makes you dialed in a little bit more, but you haven't lost the reason you dialed in in the first place, right? No, I'm, look, and to do it the other way, look, I'm, you're doing me a favor, not that nobody knows who I, I don't get on TV so the people know who I am. I mean, if you do that, then again, that won't work after a while.

But you know, you're bringing different age group who, well, they see me, but the fact that you give me an out of boy, it's good for me too, so thank you. I would say that you and John Madden are probably the two biggest football influences of my life. You mentioned him earlier. I assumed that you got to hang out with him a fair bit.

Not hang, but we're friendly, of course. Because ABC ES, it's not like I rode on the bus or anything like that. He made it the most, he's a guy that coached and won Super Bowls and coached against the, Noel and Shula and they think of the AFC in those days and my God. Just the AFC let alone, okay now you're in the Super Bowl against Bud Grant

or whatever, but to make it understandable to everybody, but to be a football coach, we're announcers. Okay, we're speaking, we're not coming from looking at film at 11 p.m., looking for that one little thing and then trying to articulate it to people that aren't really football fans. That's how great John was.

And he, just a basic guy, he never changed. I was lucky to know him. I didn't hang out with him so much, not because I didn't want to. But, yeah. I mean, listen, I know that people are probably like, you guys are all just jerking each other off right now. I wanted to go back to just a point about how,

having you on the younger audience, but that to me is like a no-brainer because you were our guy when we were growing up. And hopefully someday when we're, you know, 68 years old, there's a new show that's like, oh, we want these guys on, these old guys on, and, you know, we listen to you when you're growing up. So it's like-

You're already, you're already sowing those seeds. No, but it's the truth, you know? It's like you, already you're already sowing those seeds. No, but it's it's the truth. You know, it's like you like you were watching countdown and watching, you know, it was just the best. Well, here's the thing on prime time and then we'll get off because you said we're doing this to each other. Nobody wants to listen. Now there might be a couple. Okay, yeah. But the thing is, I'll listen back to it. Prime time for the younger, the real younger, you only got three games on TV on a Saturday. Right, right. Man, I know that sounds neanderthal.

It's crazy. And there's no yellow line. I think I got that all the way. By the way, with the Eagles, I thought nine yards, they should have put a green line. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, the, you know, the Brotherly Shove line. Yes.

Because that's all they have to get to. Yeah. Although, and aside, the brotherly shove line. Cause that's all I have to get to. Although, and aside, that summed up their season. They didn't get it against the Bucks and they got tackled for a safety. And there you go, we're done. But I didn't mean to, but the, the, the, prime time, so Seattle 48, Arizona 45,

and in nine and in 2000, even in 2005, we don't see anything except when they cut in at half time, we saw the one bomb to whoever was playing at the time. Well, here's five minutes on prime time. So if you liked football, not because it was me, not because it was me not because it was Tommy I'd watch the show as long as it was well done highlight wise music when you don't need the music but it's fun And the fact that maybe we added made some football fans along the way, but there are 11 games you never saw yeah So it was now it's hard for anybody to understand that and even yeah like 0506. I remember I I had ladanian tomlinson on my fantasy team, won every single game, and I'd be like,

well now I just want to watch and see all, I know he scored four touchdowns, let me watch Boom, show me the four touchdowns. Right, because the chargers were. Just relive it, yeah, yeah, it's be awesome, yeah. Now it was fun. Here's another little bit of research that I stumbled on for this game.

The guy, my Mark Franklin was has cut my swamis the last, well I don't do that anymore, but he still cuts my fast of three minutes. He's a great, does a great job. So we're walking out after we did the Pro Bowl, you know, it's on this week, and I did the great Pro Bowl plays of the year, but whatever.

He goes, you know, we're talking about the election. I'm picking aside you know real quick this is you know midnight or 11 o'clock Friday Sunday night. He goes so we're gonna you know Chief's Niners was the Super Bowl before the last Biden-Trump. Yep. Yep. This is not a Democratic or Republican conversation at all. Yeah, and chief Snyder's is Before the next one presumed. Yeah I'm an American history major doesn't make me an expert, but oh He goes I wonder if there was anything else and off the top of my head

I said well the only one that I can think of champ let's go championship games because Super Bowl forget it I knew right away I said FDR beat Adelaide Stevenson not FDR to be Eisenhower yeah Adelaide Stevenson twice Stevenson did not cover it either of those okay but that was 52 and 56. So I, the next morning I looked up in my white book and, oh, 1951 and 1955, not that this is like kind of minutiae, but the LA Rams played the Cleveland Browns, Norm Van Broklin against Otto Graham both times, where little Bob Waterfield started for the Rams. Both at the LA Coliseum, 80,000 people one like yeah they split now I don't know that that tells us anything about the election the Super Bowl but 51 and 55 LA Rams

Cleveland Browns is a bit of information I like it your show could use mm-hmm it doesn't predict anything like the Punctu-Tonny fill I don't know It took the time to look it up and was fun. I like it. Yeah, was there any other ones? No, and when you say when you looked it up in the white book Do you just have a book and I felt it was the old NFL book. So not the internet You could do that just if I know where to go in the white book. I think it was even like of it Well, I needed the 50 so I was my my basement I don't think I had I had the book from like five years ago I love it I love it I know where to go it takes a

minute yeah because it's actually it's got more you don't have to scroll yeah you got it right it's kind of nice yeah I think will bond puts it the right way getting some ink under your fingernails sometimes it's nice to do that not have to go on your phone or online to do it. You are a historian of the game, obviously. You've seen a lot of football. You've been around a lot of big games. I think we'd be remiss if we didn't ask you,

is Taylor Swift good for football? Absolutely, and I'll tell you why. Because I'm a little oblivious to it. Not oblivious. I get it. I mean, and should the network you're not asked me should they show her every time Travis Kelsey catches the ball not necessarily. First of all, I think I've never met her. I think she's legitimate. I'm in my mid-30s. I'm cheering on my guy and I'm having fun at the game So if you just take it from that part, I think that's pretty that's legitimate I do you maybe you guys don't think so. I think so. I don't think she's there to be

Me she feels the stadium of 80,000 so it's not oh I need to be seen again, right? Right? I think anyone that thinks that's wrong. I don't know that So only this last week or two, my haircut, young lady at the bank, you know, so who's your team? You know, I'm making conversation with one of the ladies there's a Steelers, I know she likes to steal whatever she's young thing 24, she goes, I never watched football until this year, but I found I really liked the game, but I'm watching because I want to see if Taylor Swift so So I'll boil it this way and you can go wherever you want with it. Yeah, it was like I heard it twice in a day

Getting haircut and in a bank and going Anything that makes somebody a pro football fan from nothing can't be all bad. Yeah. That's fair to say. I mean, you may not agree. What do you guys think? No, yeah. I mean, you've talked about it.

Yeah, I think that's fair. I think that we're getting more of a backlash to her, but it's because the Chiefs keep winning and she's, if you're a Ravens fan and you're watching the Chiefs and you're losing, you're gonna find something about that broadcast if you're a Ravens fan and you're watching the Chiefs and you're losing, you're going to find something about that broadcast that you're going to direct all your anger at and you're going to hate, right? If that's Tony Romo, Tony Romo hates us.

If it's the refs, the refs hate us. If it's one commercial you don't like, be like, I can't stand this commercial. We've got actually a guy who's a big Mets and Dolphins fan that works here and he is an expert in that. He'll be watching Mets game and then Buster only will pop up and you'll be like Buster only hates my team boom now that's the enemy that I can turn against so the Chiefs keep beating all these teams and there's more and more fan bases that have to watch the Chiefs beat their team and then every time they score there's Taylor Swift so I think that's where more of the backlash is coming from. But I mean, we're guys, we watch football and TV

and you have to find something to complain about, right? Like there's always something that you have to, it's not my team's fault, this person's fault that it's happening. Yeah. Which I get. I get it. I mean, it's not fair to pin her like what she's doing it to put a kibosh on my team, obviously.

I mean, that's, I get it. But I think it's, you're it, but I think it's, you're right, if the Chiefs were eight and nine, well you wouldn't be seeing her now anyway. So, and I assume I have no idea that she's what, in Tokyo Saturday night. Yes, she's gonna be flying all the way back. Flying over, because remember,

that's like 16 hours ahead. Yep, they did the math. I think she gets to land at like noon on Super Bowl Sunday in Vegas. Yeah, and probably a plane you can sleep on. Yeah, probably, I would say she's not going on Southwest. I don't think it's the Wright Brothers. Yeah, yeah.

And then what's her next show? Like Soul on Tuesday night? Like I don't know. That'd be fascinating. Which reminds me of non football, but my favorite times of flight like that. The start of the century, the late, you know, January 31, 1999, Elton John does a concert in Sydney, I believe, 70,000.

He flies the Honolulu does another New Year's Eve concert in Aloha Stadium with another 50,000. Two shows the same night, but he flew to the two. That's a good one. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool. There you go. I got a non-football question that just popped in my head.

Do you still write checks? Oh yeah. I love that. Internet, if I can avoid it, I avoid it. I'm a 20th century guy. How do you do it? And I'm a tourist. You don't do it at the grocery store and stuff like that.

That would hold up the line. Yeah, right, right. It might be just be considerate of, you know, especially if you only have like eight items. Yeah. Right, like a nat line, I'll come on. But you're ripping checks still every now and then. Oh yeah.

Like pizza guy. Yeah. You ever read check to the pizza guy? No, I don't do those. I mean, check to pay my bills. Yeah, yeah. Not checks like here you go. Old fashioned stamp.

Nice sit down. Yeah. Licking. Put it out. Hey, forever you can make a good, well now they went up again, New Year's Day. What are they at? I think if you bought the forever's, don't quote me.

Could they be 68 cents now? Oh wow. That's way more than that. I mean, I probably had some of the- So you have the forever stamps? Well, that's what you buy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if you buy 20 books at a time,

well, I don't, I'd say 10 books, they don't last that long. But if you bought them going out of business sale right before New Year's Day, you save five cents a stamp or whatever. Yeah. Try to do that on the stock market. Yeah, yeah.

I like it. I'm happy to buy insurance. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I pay my bills that way. I don't go to any store with a checkbook. But you could if you had. No, no, you always have a couple in your wallet. Yeah, yeah. One of them, one of them. Your wallet, yeah, yeah, yeah. Your wallet actually is looking a checkbook. But you could. If you had. No, no. You always have a couple in your wallet. Yeah. One of them. One of them.

One of them. Your wallet actually is looking a little slim. Well, you know, I realized you can't walk around with that one anymore. Yeah. I was a little shocked because you know, you shouldn't shock anyone. Boom. Great tipper. He tipped the car service that brought him here and he pulled out his wallet and I was like, damn, your wallet looks like it went on a diet. It's not it did go on a diet. It needed to. I mean this thing's flying out of there that cards from like 25 years ago. That was a while. I weeded that out of a while. Okay. Right checks, thinner wallet. Yeah. I'm catching on. It's only 2024. Yeah. We've only been a quarter of this century.

I'll catch on soon. Yeah, I appreciate that about you. You know what you can do. You know what you like to do. You know who you are and you're gonna stick with it. And you're a Bill's fan amongst other things. And this year was, this was painful for the Bill's. You've seen a lot of Bill's seasons,

a lot of Bill's heartache. Where would you put the end of this one up against the late 80s, early 90s, all the stuff they've been through? Well, they have an unbelievably resilient fan base because they've been, well, there was a time they weren't very good, but they, I mean, I heard from several of them,

texting right away like, well, we still got to Billy, Billy leave. Now, it wasn't the Super Bowl, but it was wide right. And I know Jim had to say it. On primetime, I even lowered my voice. I went, I just can't even say this. Wide, right. And then, you know, and then they had asked me,

you want us to show the Norwood? No, do not, no, we're not showing that. Not right anyway. Yeah, because they came on so, I mean, another circuitous route, like Chiefs, six and six, but then they don't lose a game. And they, when the East, they look really good. The good news is for them, so where does it rank?

I mean, Super Bowls are the Super Bowls, but I mean, did that rank, it's always the Chiefs, right? That 13 second to bring it to the modern, to the current era of them again. So the Chiefs inadvertently to the Buffalo fan have become the patriots. The one or two times they could be Tom Brady in there. Fitsie beat him in 2011. There are people like the campers are still in the parking lot on Tuesday, like people. Okay, it's like, it was, it was, but so the Chiefs, not a division arrival,

but boy they play, because now your first place, so you're, well, you play all the time and then off it in the playoffs. The fact that it was the Chiefs again, twisted the knife a little more than, oh, we were wide right, I'm making it up to the Ravens. Okay. But you got the Super Bowls and you got 13 seconds,

but this falls right behind. And it's again, it can be another long winter up there. And I feel for them because, sometimes they have Josh Shalon, they got a good shot. I know. The window is not closing on the bills. That's foolish to say, now will they be able to keep who we think are a lot of their best players?

Diggs or others? I don't know, but you guys know top some players or bottom 10 players. Your roster changes a fourth to a third. Yeah, it just does. Yeah, the bills are going to lose a lot of guys, but I think a lot of them are, you got some older guys that are leaving, they'll figure out a way. You're right, if they have Josh, they're going to be in position to win big games. Yes. By the way, Scott Norwood, from? From? Well, I forget. Go ahead. James Madison. That's right. I did. Yeah. Scott is your friend. I mean, you know, and I know all those guys. It's just, they'll get one eventually, you think. Although, you hope. You got my homes.

I know, bro. Here's Jim Harbaugh in the chart. I know. It's not that that makes them. No, but it is. He's not playing quarterback, but they make some better. He's in Herbert.

If Josh Allen was in the NFC, he'd probably have been in a Super Bowl by now. I would think so. Yeah, and it's just, it's. The Niners are. Yeah. If he had one year, you know, he'd probably have been in a Super Bowl by now. I would think so. Yeah, and it's just, it's- The Niners are. Yeah. Philly had one year. Yeah.

He'd only won. One year. If you think about it, you know, and- The Rams, obviously, that was a great year, but it's still, it's just, it is a lot of circumstances of who you're in the conference with. Yeah, here's, yeah. I mean, the AFC, the best quarterback in football.

Well, aren't they all there? Yeah, they are right? I mean in Lamar we can debate where you put him But he's certainly capable of wrecking a game now what the chiefs and how they stopped him or how the Ravens didn't kind of Stay the Ravens I do have one theory on that one. And again, they were only down 10 and then seven. That's not, they weren't down all year. I know.

That doesn't mean, oh, we can't possibly come back from seven points. Of course, you have Lamar Jackson could run 50 yards. By the way, middle of the third quarter, do you know he was still the second leading receiver on the team that he caught? Yeah, yeah. Second leading receiver.

It's crazy. But they hadn't called, I'm not on Monk and I'm not on anything, I don't know. They hadn't been in that position even 10 and seven in the middle of the third quarter, which is not panic. Right. So they didn't, you can't do that and and walk through I think they led with four minutes to go in it or Or didn't trail is that true? Yeah, no, they they they lost to the Colton over time

They lost that game against the Browns where they're up 14 I believe in the fourth quarter and they lost that game to the Steelers where they dropped every pass and they were up In the second half. So yeah, you're right that game game pressure matters. And it actually goes back to the Niners where they kind of had that as their bugaboo, like hey, they can kill you, they can step on your throat, but can they come back from behind and then they've done it twice in the playoffs. Let me ask you guys one question.

I'll get your opinion on it. As I'm not sure it's fair to even, the Niners were rolling. I know they lost the three, but they they rolled they you know they they crushed a lot of teams starting with Jacksonville etc when the Ravens went out there again on Christmas the same as the Chiefs day which is kind of an interesting I don't think that's not to say they can't win the Super Bowl they didn't they haven't looked the same I know that they crushed Washington after that, but. It's Washington.

Okay, I mean, they had to have it. It was on the road, I get it. They haven't looked like that team we saw from the middle of November or two. I'm not making that as a point. So therefore they're not going to. Do you agree? Not bad, but there's something not quite. I agree,

but it might actually work in their benefit. You're right. Because it might be a situation they got a little humbled and they know that like, hey, we can get beat by anyone anytime. So you know, the Packers game, the Lions game. I know if you tell me that they're down 17 to Mahomes in the Super Bowl, I don't think they're coming back. That's a little different. But they might have a little bit more of a, hey, we can come back Super Bowl. I don't think they're coming back. That's a little different, but they might have a little bit more of a, hey, we can come back from these. We don't have to be, you know, just killing the team right away.

Maybe, I don't know. That's why they play the game. It's the best. I think it's been good for Kyle. It's been good for Kyle to see that he can do that. Cause he had the reputation of not being able to play for behind. And now it's the narrative,

I think after winning two in a row in the playoffs that way, I feel like, I feel like that's a little, I don't And now it's the narrative, I think, after winning two in a row in the playoffs that way. I feel like that's a little, I don't know if it's pressure off his back, but he has confidence in know that they could possibly come back. Right. And the players have lived it too.

Correct. Because you're twice now. If you're steamrolling everybody, if we're talking about the Niners that we saw earlier this year, where like it's the second quarter and the other team is just physically giving up. If you're doing that and then you get behind in the Super Bowl, you're like, well, what the hell's going on?

How do we do this? This isn't like, this is not supposed to be happening to us. But now it's like, okay, we've been there. We can do it. I actually, I agree with Big Cat. I think it might be a good thing because they still have all the talent that they had before. It's just, okay, they're not, they're're not stopping everybody. That's not the worst thing sometimes. You know, you're right. It's gonna be a tight game. Yeah. All right, tough question.

You know, you mentioned 68. You've been doing this for a very long time. When your time does pass, you say, I'm retiring officially. What do you want the fans to remember Chris Berman for? Very tough question. I'll spell my name correctly, we'll start with that. That I, meaning the fan,

I enjoyed getting my football or my sports from him and his station, not so much as me. That, I mean, no one's gonna really remember the first 10 years by that time, you know? So when we were, everyone's underdog. I mean, that was real. That was really cool being underdog with these guys. And I like, I'll, David said, I love you

cause you're the underdog. You know, he told me that. Typical Al. I mean, it was like 82. You're the underdog. Like that. Like, oh, I never, that's pretty cool. I'd like, I'd like them to say,

I really enjoyed watching football or baseball or again, I enjoyed, I felt I was with a friend maybe watching a game or a show or prime time or name any other with him and his station. I felt comfortable doing it. Not so much who he educated me of this. I mean, you know, people have forgotten more football than I'll ever know. I've seen a lot, but don't ask me what I have for breakfast.

Although Donny cooked me a great lunch. Yes, he did. So I think it's that simple. I did it, did he come across as a good guy I'd like to think so but for the for the viewer. It's more important. Did we did we do what we were supposed to do? did we do it I want to say pure but Pretty purely which is not a word. So that's it. That's it. I think that encompasses it, because any deeper than that,

I don't know that anybody would take the time to get deeper than that. Well, it's pretty deep. Yeah, I mean, I think it's really as simple as did he make sports fun? And the answer is yes, and sports supposed to be fun. And we've talked about this off air too, like sports supposed to be fun.

That's what we try to always do here. That's what you always did. And it's like, that's what we tune in for. We wanna have fun. And it's an escape from everyone's, everyone's going through shit in their life. We sit down on Sunday, we watch football. We kinda get escape from it, we enjoy it.

And did they make it fun? And you did. Well, I hope so. I mean, that would be, that's how I'd like to be remembered. You know, I'd like our shows to be, our station to be remembered. I mean, you may, people may have opinion

of where we are and where we were and this, I'm not getting there. It just, yeah, I feel comfortable watching. I made it fun. I should probably should have come out with that. I had a guy that does some serious surgery. This is like 15 years ago. Tell me, you know, what would you do is important on Sundays whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa

that was a great one. That was a great one. Not quite strong sound. But whoa whoa whoa whoa Bob I've known him our kids grew up together with Bob I mean he lever transplant you know I mean that kind of stuff oh what you do is really important. And he stopped me, he goes, yeah, okay, it is. But on Sunday, maybe I can put my head somewhere else, and I'm not the only one, and get out of that for even if it's six hours a week. And maybe it makes me do a better job on Monday

for someone who needs it. I went, okay, now I'll allow that answer. Yeah. No, I mean, you're right. Because I always feel when people give, when people say that to us, I have the same reaction where I'm like, listen, we're, we're idiots. We're talking about sports. We're not doing anything.

But it means something to people and you, you, you have to like realize that and realize that it is important because people need that escape. It's a great compliment to get. It always makes me feel so great when you say that. I'm going through a tough time. You guys talking about sports has helped me a little bit and like that's the best feeling in the world

when I get those. And you guys get, like each one of these gets maybe a million, I mean at some point it lives up there for perpetuity. Right, kind of like the stuff in my wallet, right? Like, yeah. I try not to think about a million people. Well, I read that, yeah.

Like a million people. Yeah. Isn't it fun like being a wonder of people go, do you ever get nervous going on TV? I went, well, I'm looking in a, if it's a studio show, I'm looking in a lens. I'm looking at not a particular person, but a friend of mine, nobody in particular.

Talk with them or to them, not at them. But we can't think of a million. If I sat and thought there were a million people in that lens, I probably would have cracked up long ago. Right, yeah. Hank and I did a little bit of stand up on Wednesday of this week. And I think, you know, we're like 800 people.

How many people are there? Yeah, it's like 600. Live audience. Live audience. And that to me was way more difficult than this. This, it's like, I'm hanging out with my friends. We're talking ball. Yeah, there happens to be a microphone here.

I am aware that people listen to it and we'll say things about that show later on, but seeing the people face to face, it's a different ball game. So I can't think about a million people listening to this show. Standing up comedy, that's the toughest. Yeah. You Hank did a great job.

He's so funny. I know, but I wonder and I played, you ask a comedian, supposing in the audience is a rough one or not like rough like necessarily but your first two or three jokes don't go anywhere yeah and you already hear shuffling of the feet now what yeah you fast forward to the guarantee but then you got nothing at the end yeah yeah like what do I mean, there's a few that you know we're going to work, but you're working to it. And I don't know that anyone had I forget the exact answer. You

gotta trust yourself in this and that. But to size up the room, what do you think they want to hear? I don't know. So what what I'm saying is that's ultimate respect when you're or live theater. Yeah. Now again, that's not a standup comedy, but oh God, I forgot my line. Yeah, yeah.

Well, I total respect for that. Yeah. Going back to what we were talking about earlier about how like the small things in the routine matters to people sometimes. I don't, are you a Warren Zivon fan? I think you are. Oh yeah.

Yeah, so he had a great line. I think this is when he had Miso Thielioma and he was on David Letterman's show and he said the thing that has come into perspective for him at this point is enjoy every sandwich. Like the small stuff, like really dive in and let yourself enjoy the small parts of your routine in life.

And that's what's gonna be important to you. And whatever that is, that's great. So I think about that sometimes, if the mundane tasks every day are like, okay, I'm just going through the motions about something. No, like enjoy every single small part, enjoy every sandwich. So I think about that all the time.

Very good, no heat. Where Wolves of London, I mean, San Omar. Yeah, yeah. London was where Wolves of London. Right. All right, so boom, yeah, London was where wolves of London. Right. All right, so boom, this has been incredible. My last question, rowback question, rhoback.com use promo code take,

20% off your first purchase, QZIP, Polo's, Hooties, Jogger, Shorts, best golf stuff, rowback.com, rowback.com promo code take, 20% off, give us the Super Bowl score and make it a swami. No, no, okay. We're going to go on. Because this is, I'm coming in today because it's still as we tape it,

it's like the week we're okay. I'm not operating on anybody this week. But I said I better come up with a score here. So I think, I think the chiefs repeat. Okay. 23-20. Okay, that's the chiefs repeat. Okay. 23-20. Okay, that's not a swarming. Let's fix that a little.

Oh, you want a humorous. 25-22. Oh, no, okay, okay. But let me give you a reason. I did pick a couple of three to two games. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. And I did have a 75-72 score. I mean, I remember the.

So 23-20 is what you'll probably read if I ever, you know, I have to write something for, right, ESPN, you know, what happened. Yep. The first time I ever realized what gambling was when I saw that little arrow pointed, I was like, why is that, the team lost? Yeah.

Why do they have the arrow? And I was like, oh, okay. Educating our youth. Corrupting our youth. They covered the spread. Okay, well 25-22, but the only reason, I'm not an overrunner player at all. Yeah, yeah.

I never have been, although I was cognizant, but if I was a score right, and that would be, what is it, like 47? Yeah, 47 and a half. Since you can't do 25-22, although you can. I never worried about that. That meant I had no opinion on that. Yep.

Sometimes you don't have an opinion. All right, so, so like you want someone to win the Super Bowl Square with some bizarre numbers. Yes, yes. I get it, okay. So, 22, 18, 18. Oh, I like that.

How do you get to 18? I mean, the six, you could kick a lot of field goals. Yeah, you could get to 18 if you if you point versions of safety, you go touchdown 15 and three. I could see a touchdown field goal. And then that team's behind and they're behind by 14 points. They score touchdown they go for two they get it 18, then they never get the ball back. Yeah, right. I like it. 20 to18. That's better.

I mean at 23-20, it's the same ballpark. 22-18. And the Chiefs have them winning, although my nine are roots and my nine are fans. So go why? But it's homes and I'd like to see a repeat champ and I just hope people recognize what they're watching. This is really, this is really,

these are the Patriots more like, I don't want to say more like about something stupid, but to a lot of the folks, maybe that's part of the Taylor Swift question, right? Oh, I don't like the Chiefs, they're beating my team. But they're, more likeable is not, it's not fair to say because I love those teams. Yeah. I know them all.

But if you have a problem watching him play quarterback, you have a problem watching football. That's true. By the way, you don't have to root for him. Yeah. But don't, ah, appreciate greatness. No, stop it. So now you watch the Niners run their offense like they can.

That's pretty cool too. So two classic franchises with chiefs recently and the Niners all-time. 22-18 you got me out of my bed. I love it. I love it. It was a very... Oh by the way I should go back to the original because there's a reason and you'll like this why I called you Le Grand Chât and you were Le Grand Conteur because that's when Andres Gallaraga played a Montreal he was the big cat and then they were here we're looking at one of them we're looking at the commenter well Le Grand Chât when

he played for the Exposers what they call him he did a homo le chacuit Le Grand Chât know? And Leroc Contour is a storyteller. And the reason I bring up the French, because you guys are golf fans, we had a guy from France win last week at San Diego. Yep. And for football, Les Alouettes won the great cup. Big upset, big, big upset of the, they bombed our blue.

They beat Winnipeg. Big, big upset of the, they bomb air blue. They beat Winnipeg. So it's fitting this year to do a little mercy to you guys for having me in here. Quite a digs you got. Yeah, well thank you. It's our favorite tradition. Can you end us with a whoop? Yes, but I wanna know who does the better whoop

when you guys are back and forth. It depends on how our voices are doing. Yeah sometimes one of us is horse the other isn't. You could tell. We've been working on the Raiders though. We've been working on it. You go way deep. You know what I mean? It's... Well you guys act on it. It would be the fastest three and a half minutes. We really did that every time. But the, so the whoop.

All right, I mean we, I wanna hear you guys do it back and forth and then I'll give you a couple. All right, we got it, yeah. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. People, people will tweet us and be like, our dogs go crazy every time. Well then here they come running. What?

Hey look, kudos to Curly on the three stooches. It came from. That's a good one. All right, Schwarm, thank you so much. We love having you on. Happy Super Bowl, everybody. Happy Super Bowl. Thanks, Schwarm.

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with a tasty snack or two or three from Quest Nutrition. Okay, we're wrapping up the show. We just came from an evening of Henry Lockwood with a side of memes. It was something. It was definitely nice. It was an evening. Hank, I thought you nailed it. Memes, you were terrible. Come on. Yeah. No, no, no, no, that's that's fair. So I saw memes today at the content house. He was sitting at the bar and he had his laptop open and he was putting in his first bit of prep for the show tonight. And I think your strategy was to just hope that the world ended before today happened.

Is that, am I far off? Yeah, maybe the plane crashes on the way here. Different, couple different scenarios. But I was just, I was doing from the, from the way here. Yeah. A couple different scenarios. I was just I was doing from the from the get go. I was supposed to say presented by Quest and course like didn't say that. I had five minutes of jokes prep that didn't that didn't work out. So yeah, someone said I think Max said that you were planning on doing tequila the song only when you hit like a speed bump.

As like a fail safe. And it was one joke and it was like hit the music. You did it so fast. Hit it right now. And it was just, it was all downhill. I'm proud of you though. I like as bad as it was, I'm proud of you. Well, you made it look pretty easy.

No, yeah, Hank's was great. It's hard to get up there and do that. I'll give you that. I would have liked to see more than six hours of prep. Yes, but even if I prepped a year, you can't teach public speaking. There were some times, and you read some transcripts of the interviews that we've done.

Actually, the first thing you did, you said here's an unerred part of my take interview. Actually, it just aired previously. And you read the transcript of the text messages from Diana Rossini regarding Max on a plane and and everyone was like wait I just heard this today I turned to PFT I go what the fuck is he doing yeah that was relevant I thought it would be funny I saw one person laughing okay two sodasas to so I mean two sodas killed

You the man had two sodas. I knew was bad. My dad text me after you just said you okay It's like I'm fine Yeah, the thing about memes is like he he just denied that tonight was ever gonna happen And then he stepped up on stage He was like oh fuck and then he left the stage.'s like well thank god that's over and he turned the page on it yeah you you actually are in great spirits right now no there's a good story just being like remember when you fucking bombed and then we go I told big cat during your set I was like I think we should make memes do this again

15 minutes at a comedy club. Me means I'm proud of you. It was bad, but I'm proud of you. It's an understatement. You want to go watch it. Yeah, it was bad. And we love you. And you also, in a weird way, you set up Hank very well because it was like, is this going

to be the worst thing that anyone has ever purchased? And Hank was good. Hank saved the day. Yeah. Hank, you were great. I thought you were. I was people were like saying like, oh, the barstool employees are trying to gas hang up. Like I was laughing throughout the whole thing.

Yeah. It was an interesting strategy right off the bat to be like, who hears from Vegas? And then people in the crowd cheer and you're like, fuck you. And then like five seconds later, you're like, why aren't you laughing? Yeah? But the the intro was incredible that was a 10 minute video The you there was a shout-out counter going on

I think you had like 15 shout outs in the first five minutes give it up You I mean you were like the holding the breath the course light giving out course light to everyone like you were a master of of running the clock. Yeah, I think people I mean if you listen to this podcast you've heard me talk for the last probably three or four weeks about how nervous I was for the show and like I realized I was fucked and I knew that I couldn't do stand up for the whole time so I was spending my time thinking of how to kill time. So the intro is the easy one, it's like, all right, I can make a cool video,

Corey shout out to Corey, he's a great video director, it's like, all right, we'll make a cool video to start it. Give it up for Corey. If you watch real stand-ups like Dave Chappelle, they always do cool intros, so it's like, all right, we can do a cool video to start it, that's four minutes off the bat. Kimmy Shelter is a song choice.

That's just such a hack. Yeah, you put that under anything. It's like, I'm gonna. I've always said when I went to film school, like I went to film school being like, if I ever make a movie, I'm gonna start it with Kimmy Shelter. That's the song.

That's the song. And the best part about it was you were doing stall tactics in your stall tactic movie. Where you had like, you ran back into your hotel room just to pick up what your AirPods my passport. I love that you're just stalling inside this thought. But I spent, because I knew it was 60 minutes was a long time. It was like, I can't do 60 minutes.

I was like, I got to do in my head. I was like, I got to do 30 minutes that I can talk about and then try and think of 30 minutes of killing time So the give it up for was another big one. Yeah, let me just try and kill like 20 minutes with give it up That was my when it started in January. I was like, I gotta think of 20 minutes of give it up for yeah Yeah, let's just give it up for let's give it up for let's give it up for let's give it up for I'm so happy it's over. That's that's really I you legitimately like there was yeah There was a couple moments where it was like the crowd wasn't giving you much

But you also finished so strong like your last story was great Your when when Corey made you do put push-ups and you were you know throwing out quest bags Like it was funny. I thought it was fucking great Walk me through where you were mentally like what your emotions were like from the time you stepped on stage your relationship with the audience and how you felt about how it was going so last week pft obviously you were there we did a show at laugh factory and and before the show Nick Tarani like helped he I was nervous you guys I talked about it on the podcast over and over and over again where I was like

I'm I'm shitting myself over this show. I talked about it like three different times and I saw Nick in the office one day. I was like I He's like, what's up? I was like, I'm I'm shitting myself. I have to do this fucking 60-minute show He's alright. Let's let's meet before we'll go over it I went over my material and he helped me he gave me some suggestions He's like what if you said this what if you said that like basically punched up my material Before the show last week and then when I did the show last week I had What I thought was 15 minutes prepared I did 20 minutes and I had more left in the tank so after that I didn't want to I don't want to jinx it because you guys like you Did really good So after that, I didn't want to jinx it

because you guys were like, you did really good, you did really good. I didn't want to jinx it. But I knew after that show last week, I was like, all right, I'm gonna be fine. Like I'm gonna be good. I did 20 minutes, the crowd liked it. It was a home crowd, so it was like,

obviously PMT fans, so that helped. The crowd tonight was not PMT fans. Like they were not really laughing. Like they were kind of dead. They were a little bit dead. I think they were kind of expecting you to bomb so badly that it was like gonna be cringe worthy. And you were in that, I feel like your whole set,

like the beginning of your set was in that like gray zone where it was like there was some things landing, some things not. Then you picked up steam. And I think they came alive towards the end. Yeah, but I was, I had felt the laugh factory crowds. I was like, I'm ready for some laughs and they weren't giving it to me. I was just kind alive towards the end. Yeah, but I was, I had felt the laugh factory crowd. So I was like, this is, I'm ready for some laughs. And when they weren't giving it to me, I was,

I was just kind of going at them. Like my, I was defensive, which you guys know is how I usually am. Lashing out. I was lashing out. So that was like my, my normal reaction was just like lashing out at the crowd, but I had, I had material ready. So I was, I was prepared.

I felt good. I felt bad. I will say this I knew his max for memes and like the last I knew I was gonna be the last person and I knew there was a week left for the max or memes and I was like it's gotta be memes like it's gotta be memes like because it was max I felt like he would have he would have at least put on a performance and like been good yeah so when it was memes I was a little bit relieved for I was like he would have at least put on a performance and like been good. Yeah. So when it was memes, I was a little bit relieved for her. I was like, but then I felt bad when she went on

cause I was like, this sucks. Like this is a miserable punishment. This is the worst punishment we've ever done. Yeah. The other thing that came out of this is I had no idea the Larry the Goldfish story. So Hank told the story. Hank has a tattoo of Larry the Goldfish. It was

from the beginning. I think we all agree a terrible tattoo, but I always just thought it was a terrible tattoo because it was a bad tattoo. You told the story that when the tattoo artist came to the office and you had him tattoo Larry the Goldfish on your leg, you got the actual dead Larry the Goldfish out of the red Solo Cup, R.A.P. Kobe Teeth, like you said during the show, and he drew the dead goldfish on your body, and that's why it looks so bad. I had no idea. Because if you guys had known, you would have...

Oh, roasted it for a while. Yeah, I mean, I just always thought it was a tattoo of a dead goldfish's body. I didn't know it was a tattoo of a dead goldfish's dead body. Right. Right. And not just a dead. You could have easily just gotten a goldfish, but you were like, Oh, you want to see what Larry looked like? Here's his dead corpse that's been frozen in a cup for three months. Well, he asked that he asked for a reference picture. Yeah. And I was like, Well, I can get a reference picture. He's in the freezer. Let me go take a picture. And it wasn't until the tattoo was done where I was like

And I that's where this is where I was like I was too it was too late He had already done the full dead tattoo on my body where I was like, oh my god This is a dead. This is a dead goldfish. Yeah, and you guys are like, oh you did tune gold Yeah, you guys I could I could just show them a picture of a goldfish. That's all I needed. It was a fucking goldfish. I could have just Googled goldfish and it wouldn't have mattered. And that's why I never told you guys

cause I knew I would have never heard the end of it. And I was like, this is all my body. So for years, literally years, this was 2017. And in the back of my head for legitimately 2018, 19, 20, 21, 22, I was like, I gotta get this fucking thing removed. 2017 and in the back of my head for legitimately 2018 19 20 21 22 I was like I gotta get this fucking thing removed like I hate like I have a dead goldfish on my leg Like I gotta get it removed and I finally have gone through the process of getting removed Unfortunately, it takes like 25 appointments to get it removed. So it's like half removed, but I mean also

Yeah, I did summer up will be gone And you crushed because you were just like, you wouldn't get JFK's blown out brains on your fate, on your tattooed on your body. That's what I did. Yeah, it's like everyone has dead, that's, everyone has dead people tattooed on them. They don't have the dead version of those people. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh. Hank, I was pleasantly surprised. I thought you were good. I Did I asked for the opinion of maybe the harshest critic in the world on this set Frank the tank Who was in attendance tonight peace shit and right the tank he brings our plane crickets during me. Yeah, he's be shit Told him to stop he's be same You can't you was like, stop doing the cricket sound. You can't. You can't.

You can't do that. Frank needs to get up on stage. Actually, you probably kill it. Yeah, no, you're right. Frank would be amazing. You're kidding me? So I asked him after the show. I said, on the Raw Dog and Scale, single, double, triple,

homerun, strike out. He gave you a single. Oh. That's good. What do you give me? Struck out looking like Vogelbach. That's what he said. Yeah, the crickets was harsh. Oh, that's good. What do you give me struck out looking like Vogelbach? Yeah, the crickets was harsh and then he started biting his shirt means

Memes did get Dave to leave. Yeah, Dave Portnoy left the show So memes you've done a great job the last few years of staying off Dave's radar Now you are firmly on Dave's radar. And paper views doesn't matter. Yeah. Good spend, paper views. When Dave showed up he was like, I can't believe he's here. I was like, who cares? Yeah.

Well. I crush in the preset. But that, the Dave thing showing up was like, that was like, I was like, I wanted Dave to be there. I didn't care that Dave was there. I saw him, I was like, I'm, I wanted Dave to be there. I didn't care that Dave was there. I saw him. I was like, I'm fucked. Well, people can still buy it. You can buy it till what? Super Bowl Sunday, February 11th.

I think it was like, I know that it was not, you know, Dave Chappelle or Louis CK. I thought it was very funny. Like it was, it was a good night. It was a great punishment. I think maybe next year for our punishment, we do a loser to get like a 90 minute massage. Spotted something like that. Whatever we do has to be whatever we do has to be. I have I've spent a month thinking about this. Maybe we send the Bali. Whatever we do has to be top to

bottom. It has to be the whole podcast. It can't be split into tears. Because that was bullshit where I was like me, big cat and PFT in one tear, which is not a fair tearing for for myself and then just picking games. Think if memes had to do six if I had to do an hour. Oh my God. No I'm saying exactly why we would never we would never do that. We have to do something that's equal. All right. Yeah. No because like you keep saying we don't do punishments and I had to remind you that like I have to eat six pancakes. I have to eat 24. I got to eat 12. so it would have been PFT and Hank PFT got second place if we did the oh I was second worst. No, you were second place

We never would have done yeah, we would never would put Jake max and memes. Yeah. Yeah. No, you're right You're right. I think that the winner next year should get a Golf vacation. I think that would be nice. Listen. I I know that're right. You're right. I think that the winner next year should get a golf vacation. I think that would be nice. Listen, I know that it sucked for you guys. I think it was a very funny punishment and like a storyline throughout the football season. We'll come up with something else. Yeah. Hank, you were a good storyteller tonight.

Thank you. The storytelling was good and you told a lot of interesting things I think people hadn't heard about. When I saw the picture of Roussillo pop up, I knew exactly where that was going. You were standing on business. Yeah. The large of the airport, I walked up the elevator and PFT tried to kill me. The story goes that Bubba and Hank worked in concert together

behind the scenes to do a photo shop of a green screen shot that we did with Roussillo, where they made me look like three inches shorter. And that's the problem I had. If I, you would make me like five inches shorter, six, I'd be fine, that'd be funny. But since it was three inches, that actually made me mad at the time.

Because like people think I'm five, five now. The guitar thing also, like I obviously wasn't playing guitar. I don't, it was probably very obvious on the pay review that I was fake playing guitar, but that, I enjoyed learning guitar with PFT, but actually playing at the speed you need to play at to play a full song is very hard. I told you, it's not an easy song

for somebody that doesn't know music. But in my head I was like, all right, I gotta full month. I'm gonna play this song, bought the guitar, learn simple strings and then I was like, oh. And Hank does get into the full story behind Tiffany. Like, some behind the scenes stuff that he has not shared on the podcast. Yeah. Yeah, it was, I truly feel like I have a new lease on life. I'm so happy.

I have never had anxiety like I've had the last month. So is it bender time? We were talking, the punishment actually turned out to be kind of a punishment on me and P. Because we had to deal with you. Yeah, you guys, it was probably two weeks ago where like, I think it was a Sunday, I think it was ASC Championship or divisional round

where like, we were on the same page where I was miserable, you guys knew I was miserable, but you weren't gonna ask me why I was miserable because you knew why I was miserable. So we just didn't. Yeah, we had a dance going. Yeah, we just didn't address it. Yeah, it was. We were on the same page. I was like, this fucking sucks. I don't I hate everything. So yeah, now is it bender time? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And tune in. If you want to buy the paper views, you can

get the origin story of Pardon My Take, which we won't tell on the podcast yeah it was very funny I didn't know it first yeah that probably made you feel like you needed to call the cops no not I mean yeah yeah yeah it's just statue jake was googling statue of limitations the story of me being with you guys even that much like crazy yeah yeah we still have to do that to you. We should memes. Don't put yourself. I mean, it was like it's over. Don't. Yeah, I could because like as bad as you think it was, it was way worse.

I just saw some people laugh. Are you going to watch the back memes? No. That should be the punishment. Yeah, we won't make you do stand up again, but you should have to sit down and watch the whole time. No, just next year's football punishment is having to watch memes over and over. You can still buy it, $4.99.

Yeah. All right, well, we're kicking to ourselves in studio with the Schwam doing some lottery balls. OK, that is our show. Great interview with the Schwam doing some lottery balls. Okay, that is our show. Great interview with the Schwam. Thank you as always. And we're gonna do numbers, so take a guess. Well, let's see.

18. 18, okay, okay. I'll go 71 again. I'll go eight again. I'll go eight again. 40 for Hank. 21 for Shane. 18 for Jake. Memes three.

Oh, 18. You can't do 18. I can't do 18. I'm going to take 25. 25. Three. Three for memes. Here we go.

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, my God. That's a come on. You're one off. Come on. If you listen to the show on Monday, you know why we're freaking out. Unbelievable. Should have stuck with 22 no duck with 22 like Tony lining up off

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