Pardon My Take - Chris Berman, Super Bowl Week Is Here And Drive To 405 Recap

Episode Date: February 7, 2022

We’ve all made it to LA for Super Bowl Week and we get some stories from the road dogs after their drive across the country (00:02:24 - 00:28:50). Who’s back of the week including coach hirings (00:28:50 - 00:45:55). Chris Berman joins the show and we cover it all in an 80 minute in person interview. Nicknames, espn early days, the Bills, Football and tons more in one of our best interviews ever (00:45:55 - 02:13:17).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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You guys have made it here safely. I'm looking right now at Billy, he's got a thousand yard stare. Yeah. How's it, give us, give us the full recap, boys. Okay, so the vibes are currently high, overall it was a great trip. I think everybody had a good time, every road trip is going to have a little bit of hiccup senate here and there, some adversity we have to battle through, big stakes as like maybe a big stake, we can get to that in a second.

It was a great time and to Billy's credit, actually you know what, this road trip was Billy in a microcosm, 100% because I'd say 90% of the time he was awesome and a joy to be around. I think I feel like we got close on this trip, all this did. But there was about 10% of the time when after doing like some serious work, Billy got us through a severe ice storm, got us into Memphis, did some really tough driving, stayed awake the entire time, wouldn't let me touch the wheel, he's like, no, I got this to worry about it.

After about two days of that, Billy needed to go on another little rumspringer. Billy needed to have like a little mini vacation in the middle of the road trip, so he did the stake challenge in Amarillo at the big Texas Stakers. Crush it, right? Well, Billy don't answer that. No, let Billy answer, he wants to answer, he's got the words in his mouth. The video is coming out tomorrow, I don't want to spoil it for Billy. Wait, just give us, give us, I'll put it this way.

If Billy had absolutely dominated the stake, do you think that maybe Billy would have found a way to start talking about what a great job he did? I think he would have FaceTimed me from the stake, being like, look at this, look at this, aren't you proud of me? Billy, you don't have to answer any of this by the way. No, I mean, the toughest part of the drive was probably Cincinnati to Memphis driving while I was here. I thought it was the stake.

Well, then when we were going on the road, that's when the ice storm had gone through all the areas. So we were driving at times through about two to three inches of just pure ice. I've grown to really, really appreciate Billy's excuses, by the way. Billy is a fucking artist when it comes to excuses. Yes, no, he is. He is so good at them, like just reading the blogs that he wrote, every night he'd get back to the hotel, write a blog, and then usually he'd like pass out in the middle of

the blog and he'd be like, but there would always be an excuse for why he didn't finish it, which was usually like, so I was, I was going to finish the blog, but then I was on my bed and then I didn't remember anything until the next day and it's like Billy invented falling asleep, which is totally understandable. Being on the road is like very tiring, very like, like physically your body's tired. I know you're a young, young buck, but so, so the stake. So I mean, we had a great, honestly, it was the one of the best road trip I've ever taken my life.

It was so much fun across the country, a couple, not across the total country, but big sections of it. This is number one. And it was awesome. I'll put it this way, on our way into Hollywood, in the last maybe like, we were doing fractions the entire time, by the way, to make it go by faster. I think it was like the last, we were 219th of 220th of the way, all the way to the hotel, and Billy goes, you know, I actually think that this road trip saved, it changed my life.

And I was like, in what way? And he started to answer and then me and Bubba were like, actually Billy saved that part. I want to know how Billy's life has changed. It unlocks something in my brain that I don't think will ever go away, which is like, discovered a lot about myself. Which, anything specifically? Just Wild Bill. Wild Bill.

He's like the kid who goes away for six months for, for, for school, you studied abroad. Now you're Wild Bill, you got the cowboy hat, I like this, I would like to meet Wild Bill. Yeah, no, Wild Bill was a lot of fun and credit to Bubba too, Bubba got thrown in last minute. Well, that's 100% his fault. Oh, correct. We had an awesome time. Bubba had a good time too, I think, and Snapchat Steve, Steve Romano, was, he was also a great partner.

We had, we had solid vibes for most of the trip, until the part where Billy got drunk and got off his lease for a little bit. And that was, that was a little bit tough, but you know what, Billy snapped back after when it was Rumspringer, he was fine for the rest of the drive. And I thought that was a very funny visual when I read the blog, Billy, of you just getting like drunk on purpose so you didn't have to drive and then taking a piss every 30 minutes and having Steve throw out your hot piss out the back window. That's like, that was a very road tripping, like that's an awesome, that's a great part

of road tripping. But I think the, we had such high positive vibes, there's no energy vampires in the car, everyone was going like balls to the wall, we got in situations like we were in Memphis, right? And we pull into Memphis after white knuckling it through sheets of ice and the Tennessee power grid had gone down. And we were running out of gas and because there was no power at a bunch of the gas stations heading into Memphis, there was a possibility that we were not able to get gas to get to

Memphis. And we ended up rolling into Memphis, barely skirting by having to find a gas, the only gas station with power in like two counties. We ended up late into Memphis and all of Memphis had zero power. So we finally got to the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid, it was amazing. Absolutely gorgeous. I mean, PFT, PFT had a gift that was left for him. Yeah.

So I should probably explain this because I'm not sure if you did happen to read Billy's blog, he did a great job recapping the entire truck. I got to the Bass Pro Shop Pyramid, which is better than the pyramids in Egypt as far as they put fucking lakes inside of a pyramid. It's a wonderful, magical place. We go up to the lodge, which is also beautiful. I go into my room, great room, amazing room, all the bells and whistles, but I open the door and there's just a giant trail of rose petals as soon as I open the door.

And it leads directly to the bed. And on the bed, I see a Victoria's Secret bag, a Bath and Body Works bag. I see a giant stuffed animal and then chocolates. And I thought to myself like, wow, this is really nice for them to put this out for me. I thought maybe there were plenty of joke, maybe there are AWLs. Maybe they would, like an AWL doing that would be objectively funny for me. So I'm like, this is... Because the pyramid knew you were coming.

Yeah, they knew they knew we were coming and they arranged a tour for us and everything like that. And so I go in, I start checking the bags and I pull out the Victoria's Secret bag. Two really nice sports bras, a pair of yoga pants, some workout leggings. And I was like, this is very lovely. I'm glad that they gave me these things. And then I walk into the bathroom, more rose petals in the bathroom. It says the one spelled out rose petals on the ground in the bathroom.

And there's another gift bag on the bathroom counter in there. I open it up, I go through it. It's got two jars of weed and two special things, rolling papers. And I was like, wow, they really, they knew I was coming. This is awesome. And so... Not a drug guy. Not a drug guy.

And then... Please put that in. And then I walk out to meet the guys going downstairs to try to find food. Found Billy, found Steve. And I was like, Bubba, you were already downstairs, right? At that point? Yeah. So I grabbed these guys.

I was like, come check out the room. I'm going to do a cribs real quick on my room because they decked it out for me. I bring Steve in, start showing him around, start bragging, look at the hook up here. And then I think Billy sees the bag that's behind one of the chairs in the room. And we have this all on tape. We'll put out a vlog of it. And I'm like, oh my God, whose bag is that? And there were crocs and dirty laundry hanging out of the bag.

And then we look around, we're like, this is not my room. They double booked my room. And some guy is trying to get laid, the hardest. No one has ever tried to get laid harder than this guy was trying that night. Early Valentine's Day. Honestly, he was coming on a little strong. But so Billy starts freaking out. Yeah, he's like tweaking out.

He's like, wow, Bill? Yeah, wow, Bill. Because we got to get out of this room. We got into the part of the country where everyone routinely carries firearms. Right. But you are wow, Bill. Right. But if a guy walks in...

No, no, he wasn't wow, Bill. Yeah. No, he was wow, Bill. Where did wow, Bill? Oklahoma. We got to the gas station in Oklahoma and it was very apparent that it was a buy a fun hat part of the road trip. We got past Arkansas.

But then we were... So yeah, I thought if a guy was with his significant other, comes in and sees the three of us just like smoking his weed, you know, he walks in, he just starts to blast. Trying on his yoga pants. So Billy thought we were either going to get fucked or shot if we stayed in that room. There's a chance that they come back into the room and the guy's like, wow, okay, I guess it's a bigger party than I planned for. So then we found out because there was also a big part of my take basket that they had

left in the room for us. In the same room? In the same room. So you see where my confusion comes in. Yeah, that's very confusing. Maybe you got set up. Yeah. So that was like a minor step back and then we almost got killed in Memphis.

Well, the thing is we pulled, we were trying to find food when no one was serving food because there was no power. But we saw Hooters and the Hooters was, as PFT described it, a mirage in the desert. It was the only place open. I'm dead serious. The only place that had power in Memphis was the Hooters. Westies was closed for locals who know and shout out. Well, that's the...

We didn't even go there. No, Westies. Billy's shouting them out. But Billy's a Memphis local. No. I'm saying like... No, no, no. No, but like Westies, everyone in Memphis is like, go to Westies because it's open till

2 a.m. They're looking for late night food. They're all probably thinking, why didn't you go to Westies? Westies was closed and they never closed. There were so many... There was at least a dozen people who were mad at that point of the podcast right there. They're like, what the fuck? Why didn't you go to Westies?

Exactly. But anyway, show up at Hooters and we meet an AWL who also sees that Hooters is also closed and we were talking to him like, where should we get food? What should we do? And he says, maybe if you want to try fast food, go down this one road and if you want to buy beer, don't go to the first gas station, go to the second gas station. We're like, okay, fine. So we head down the road and...

Into the first gas station. By accident. We're realizing that we're probably not going to eat that night, so we might as well just pick up some beers and try to get some calories that way. Yup. Yeah, it was about calories. That's wild bill move. Classic bill didn't show up there.

No, I think that's the beginning of wild bill. So if you look at beer, if you look at Coors Light, it's made of wheat. That's in bread. Yup. It's made of yeast. Oh, just like, sea salt? Sounds like a cuteying sandwich. Sneaky protein.

Yes. Sneaky protein. I've also grown to appreciate how often Billy puts the word sneaky in front of things. They were extremely apparent. I was just going sneaky 110 miles an hour. Lowkey. I just keep going, Billy. We are in a Camo Chevy Silverado, a very amazing truck, a truck that people would do a lot

of stuff for. It's a truck's truck. Which I think it's yours now. Really? The gas station that Billy thinks is the醋 is worth the price. It's this truck now the gas station looks very nice like what newly done like not an old run-down gas thing Looks a fairly great new speedway. Yeah, like the good shit There's like you go in there and like there's all sorts of tobacco products

There's also sort of energy drinks an extensive beef jerky. Yeah So we pull up and you know we're like oh this looks like this is this looks like a good gas station This must be the second one. So we get out of the car. We walk in You know the gas station was was like, you know, it looked like a There's the worst. How would you describe it? It was the worst gas station. I've ever been in my life. Okay everybody inside J to Yeah, everyone was like wandering around like they were zombies There was a guy that was getting cash out of the ATM

Actively like looking over shoulder look away typing in like his pin number into the ATM making sure that nobody was coming behind him We probably should have left we did not We started checking out Getting all our stuff and everybody by the way was in this gas station not buying anything just hanging out hanging out and waiting at the counter Billy thinks that they were selling something else in that gas Not an arc. Not but look, we did look like big-time arcs. We stuck out like sore thumbs and you know There was like some guy started whispering in PFT's ear at the register. Call me a bitch No, no, no, no, call me a hoe

Yeah, he called PFT a hoe and then he went and walked to one of the older gentlemen who were was hanging out by the side of the door said use Use security use security and then it's like why is he asking if that guy's security because he's trying to figure out if you know Anyway Security guard at that point Shrugs his shoulders and takes a couple steps back meaning like he's he's he's letting them know he is ready to look away Right at any given point. So then we get our shit get out into the parking lot Billy's freaking out And no use no, no, I was I was cool, man. I was Billy was saying like this sucks because I can't get into a fight tonight because it's still within a calendar year of fighting

Jose can say No, that's why yeah, we're going we're going we're walking to the truck and like I'm just like looking over my shoulders Making sure because I had a few if you if we'd stay there any longer Probably a couple phone calls would have been made and we probably would have gotten car jacked because once I went back to the bar at The bath post up here made I was like look man We're at this in the guy was just like you're lucky you didn't get car jacked because that happens all the time in that kind of truck And like anyway, we um the truck to be fair Probably gave off signals that we likely carry firearms. Well, no, but they couldn't see it. No, they could boy. Yeah, right

So We're getting into the truck in the gas station all of a sudden two vehicles pull off you hear a skirting noise and like We're just like what the fuck like how would you describe it? It was it was Attention's were high like the noise in movies before a drive-by shooting occurs Yeah, so long story short we got out of there and we're fine. Nope. No harm no foul But then we the next day we discovered that there was a leak in our tire. There's a nail Billy hit a nail Not damn, it's not But he did for the record drive directly over a nail and we're trying to find a place to get it changed

There were no places in Memphis except we found this one spot that was in a Very bad bad like the buildings around it had had been burned to the ground And the only person that was outside was like this 65 year old prostitute though And it was like 20 degrees outside only person working in Memphis. Yeah, so cold. It was Credit to her and so we're like, you know what? Let's just go over the bridge to West Memphis See if we can find a place there. We find a place and we have to walk to us We did a simulated hunt in Memphis is what we said We had to walk down the street and find a sonic and then order at that

Fortunately, we got everything squared away hit the road no more major hiccups after that except for Billy getting drunk And then we did that was wildbills. That was wildbills. I think wildbills doesn't that doesn't count now As far as the steak challenge goes, which again, we won't spoil but go watch the video that's coming out Billy all I want to know is better or worse than the the hot wing better better Didn't even finish a single wing. Yeah, well, that's I mean, you know, way I would say like 20 ounces would be would be the same. Yeah, so so we won't spoil it But Billy tried Billy officially tried the big Texan challenge at the big Texan steakhouse Was this wildbill no

So wildbill so that's not bill Billy might have been able to finish it well wildbill doesn't play by the rules So wild got it wild bill didn't do the extensive prep work. I There's a lot of rules out here. I know also this wildbill. I don't wear a mask Wild bill I Don't want to just gloss over what Billy just said right there. You said I didn't put in the extensive work necessary to take on this challenge The only work that he had to do was not get drunk before he tried it, right? That's it was also in the morning, right? And it was also yeah

We got at 10 a.m. So we think it'd be a fun idea to have Billy going around from coast to coast like man-versed food But like just getting getting body Just jacked up by food you're the Washington generals. He's the yeah, he's the bro Adam I mean like you so many people fit like do those challenges and finish like we're gonna see someone who like you know You can't finish any of them. Yeah, that actually would be a good video It's like watch Billy just show up and with all because the nice thing about you is that you would show up to every food challenge being like This is the one I'm gonna do well and then just get body time and time Let's just remember the challenge the steak challenge is the steak plus other stuff, right?

Definitely steak there, right? I mean, there's grizzle you're allowed to cut off grizzles Watch video it's amazing video and then the most beautiful Amazing the beauty Don't watch it will be an amazing beautiful the like after Amarillo was some of the most beautiful country I've ever changed your life. This is where you're just like staring Staring at the Western sky you guys don't understand you're laughing. We don't understand I mean we Hank and I have driven the exact same drive. Yeah, but you weren't doing it after miles like the transition

We did it in a RV. We literally did the exact same drive also Billy was drunk changed my life Billy passed out like completely passed out. It was Billy left the steak challenge put on Hans Zimmer soundtrack compilation of just orchestral music and then proceeded to pass out in the in the passenger seat shotgun For the next four and a half hours now. Now. He's right about the drive through the west part of New Mexico It was beautiful. It was gorgeous. Yeah, but I do like like to be the first person to discover road trips Yeah, no, but it was just really awesome. Yeah, I'm coming sick drive We literally we're recording this literally 30 minutes after we valeted the truck and I've been walking I'm just like wow like you sort of you're you got like a

Driver's high. I don't think that while bill would let a valet. Yeah It's like, you know, this is the one fucking roll out of last five minutes. Yeah, we're trying to find the goddamn place It's a concrete jungle. You can't wow bill in here. Yeah bullshit at any point You know, I saw one tweet in the beginning like at any point because it worked out It was a great bet I think every everyone was happy with the content that came out of it But at any point where you like I kind of regret purposely losing these last few weeks because I kind of wish I was just like flying on Sunday Yeah, there was there was one point

I think on the very first night when we're going out to Cincinnati and it's really it's registering that we're not going to Get there until after 3 a.m. And then we have to wake up super early the next day And once you've been on sometimes it's hard to fall asleep So none of us got a good amount of sleep on the entire trip That was really there was a little bit of doubt at that point But then honestly like Billy's vibes brought the entire thing up Billy's is a very very good road trip partner Like I said 90% of the time was was the was the drive straight through to since he the right move. Yeah Apology

I was I was talking that type of I Wanted to think that first night to you crush it. That was road dog. Yeah, there's road dog lifestyle And it's sad that the trip's over because we had such great vibes between Liam Well, there's no rules when you're on the road like yeah, it's not real life. Let's keep it up this week She's out on the road do it like traveling man. Yeah, there's nothing like it The the picture you tweeted today too of the guys that somehow Found you on the road in their car and put a sign up on their window. Yeah, that was I have no I have no idea how they found us because we were yeah

This is a trick to big cat taught me when I when I first joined Barstow and we started doing the podcast when you're in a Different place like stagger your post a little bit keep people guessing as to where you are So I was never letting people know exactly where we show up and like tweet immediately like I'm eating at this place right now Yeah, so sit there for three. Somehow this AWL and his girlfriend Found us like I don't know if they waited on an overpass for us to drive underneath But they had I think it was like a Dodge Chargers It was a pretty sweet loud car and they got stuff to write on their windows on the back It said thank you for your service Billy and then on the side. It said PFT has no eyes

And so then they they pull up behind us. They speed around us. We don't know who they are They honk their horn as they pass us. So my antennae goes up. I'm like, okay That's probably no a listener of the show then they get in front of us Billy doesn't hear them honk They get in front of us and they roll their windows down start waving and Billy goes that guy just flipped us off And he's ready. He goes into war. I just see I just see one finger fly up Fucking fight. Wait, is this is this officially are we officially in the zone where you can get in a fight? Yeah, Billy can get into a fight again. I'm not no That was the joke my my license has expired so you can get

Everyone know I'd be careful and also wasn't joke because I busted Billy's balls about this a little bit when he was taking on the stake challenge on the anniversary of boxing Jose Canseco and Billy's like no, but like Legitimately if I get into a fight and I heard so it's not a total no, it's not It is so there's legal precedent So the person flips us off that Billy thinks and Billy's like They just flipped us off and we're about ready to fight and Billy's mind and then I was like Billy no calm down They're an AWL. They're a fan of the show And so they really kill someone

On the first day he's legally allowed to I thought no No, I thought because they beeped and then they swerved in front of us quickly And I was like what's going on like I'm focused on the road not what's back, right? Anyway, they're really nice There was another couple that found us in Oklahoma, too We took a video and they tweeted it put it in the blog very cool And then yeah, you gotta you gotta just like come up with ways to keep yourself entertained and engaged on the road because it's there's only so much that one playlist can do yeah, and We we managed to kind of mix it up and and keep things keep things spicy on the road all night

Yeah, I know I mean you got the piss and vinegar of a 22 year old that like you are a perfect road trip guy It was it was so fun. Yeah, I I don't know. I do. I'm telling you just get back in that. I don't know if I'll ever catch that high again Just cruising again. You can try back. I didn't think Billy should just live on the road Well, so my prediction was that Billy is gonna drive the car back and then just like leaving it in his house And then like in like two or three weeks. He was gonna come up to my desk and be like so Like that truck like is can I can I keep it now? Like you know what? I don't know what something to me you can yeah fuck

He was he was great to have bubble was awesome, too So was Steve it was just it was a solid group and I think I think we're just road dog brothers for life now We'll always have we'll always have the drive to the 405. There it is. We saw a crater Okay, that was kind of saw me here greater. It was the most other great reserved crater No, it's a crater world a meteor struck like 30 miles west of Winslow So we stopped and went and checked out. It was a big hole in the ground So as far as holes go it was one of the bigger ones. I've seen that is probably the biggest one of that hit 50,000 years ago. I just made up a big time. Yeah, it's a big old hole

All right anything else from the drive or any other Stories before we do who's back and get to Berman I'm sure we'll remember other stuff But everything happened so fast if you're on the corner in Winslow, Arizona Look up to one of the top floor windows on the corner Good surprise up there a little Easter egg. Oh, did you guys put it there? No, it's just Billy was thought was really funny Because they painted like a guy girl making out you set a picture. Yeah, you treated a picture, right? Yeah Yeah, Billy thought the make-out session thing was I mean it is guy and girl like you could imagine. Yeah

Oh, what are they doing? Together that song like an additional part where they start smashing and mushing Okay, let's get to who's back Who's back brought to you by Chevy trucks Billy you can speak to it Chevy makes the greatest trucks of all time We were going through serious weather ice Snow and I felt so comfortable and so confident driving through that stuff in that Chevy Silverado Yeah, so, you know we're truck guys 2021 was a big year for Chevy trucks Silverado really made some news. We're talking product news Silverado Z R2

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Thing on ice. Yeah, it was it's always weird to hear the announcers go out of their way to say like We're the Republic of China ROC when they're talking about Taiwan because they're not allowed to say Taiwan and then when they're Russian the Russian that's our yeah, ROC because they were banned rock nation So they were yeah, they were taken out of the Olympics Russia Russian Olympic committee Yeah, so it was like they're not allowed to actually fly the flag and then my other who's back of the week deja vu But you know, I should amplify it. We kind of predicted the future, but Harambe I said it last week Harambe was back. He kind of went viral. We talked had Sam Hubbard on

The clip was very funny where he very clearly was like it's something we don't talk about like he was very clearly joking But he did say the words we're doing it for him Yes And that's all it took for that interview to get picked up by every single news station like in the world with a dead serious quote That's like we're doing it for him Sam Humbert says the Bengals are playing for Harambe. It's perfect It was amazing. It's so perfect and it's so it's the perfect time for it to all come full circle because we've we've predicted We've had this conversation off air many times like when do you think Harambe jokes are gonna be funny again? And it's like perfectly coincided with the bank. There's a formula

I think we can we can extrapolate from this that like five years. They always say that like was it comedy equals Pain plus time. I'm probably mixing up the pain part of the equation, but time is always the factor in it I think five years is now officially the amount of time. Yeah when something can become fun again There was that one article that was so funny. It was like well first day like it was a big J wrote it They referred to me as PFT commentator and and then they said Host big cat Dan Katz asked do you think it's fair to say that you would have stopped the Harambe situation? And then they gave his answer to like how he would have like bowed up on Harambe So yeah, that was I was very shot at Mike Francesa

All right PFT year who's back I mean my who's back was gonna be Billy I guess Billy really showed up this week He really did wow bill or bill. I'm very proud. I'm no Billy Billy because even underneath the whole the cold hard Wild bill exterior that we all know and love so much. There's Billy in there somewhere He just the formula with Billy is let him fuck up once out of you know every five days Let Billy just be a real piece of shit, and then he'll come back It's like you got a dog let it run away, you know if it loves you it will come back If it doesn't it was never meant to be and then my other who's back of the week was gonna be just What happens in Vegas staying in Vegas because it looks like well actually this is proof to the contrary

Looks like Alvin Kamara has a warrant out for his route in Vegas after the Pro Bowl wait didn't wasn't already Yeah, no, it looks like he got it says right here At approximately 5 50 p.m. They were dispatched to a local hospital where a person was reporting a battery Was battered at a nightclub located in 35 No, it's because he played in the in the Pro Bowl, I think so Oh, they rest him after the probe have you ever noticed that when it's an athlete getting into a bar fight It's always a nightclub. Yeah, and it's never like they never just say like at a bar It's like at a local nightclub establishment. Maybe if they were tackling at the Pro Bowl guys would be it was pretty crazy

Watch from that like it was I know that the Pro Bowl has always been weird But there did they did try a little bit back in the day This was that that pick six that Patrick Mahomes through which was like you see the highlight I didn't see that one. It was No one even came close to I think Winfield from the Bucks picked it off, but like They don't even wanted to tackle him like they were running out of the way Yeah, I saw I didn't see the Mac Jones scramble for the touchdown Yeah, we're like three guys two-hand touch me here and play by the rules

He just ran all the way to the end zone which credit to Mac. I probably would have done that too They also they had the new rule. They're trying out the new rule to spot and Start whatever I don't know what it's called where you basically instead of a kickoff you this with the Ravens proposed for overtime I think a year ago or two years ago where you pick a spot on the field So like if I say okay the ten your own ten yard line then the other team decides whether they're on defense or offense Oh, I like that. Yeah, so you like so there's I think though I think the AFC did have like a 97 yard drive or something because they picked the three yard line

They're like all right. We'll still take the yeah, we'll say imagine Electing to play defense in a Pro Bowl right like no, I'm gonna I'm gonna bury you guys deep play the field position game But it would be cool to be like in the in overtime be like all right We're gonna do the one yard lines like okay. Well, we'll play defense. Yeah, there was um There was one point where I was I was watching the highlights of somebody running in it like doesn't the guys don't want to get hit They don't want to tackle. I know I would I wouldn't either they should just they should let the players play While they're all on Instagram live on their phones

Like the Antonio Brown rule and have everybody with one hand with their phone Facing themselves broadcasting to their own audience during the play personally to their own audience. That would be sick. Yeah Um, it was I mean it was a fun over to have even though we didn't have Wi-Fi on the plane But a lot of people were like, dude, why would you take the over in the Pro Bowl? I think there was a few unders in a row, but like who the fuck cares? Why would you ever bet on the under? Yeah on the Pro Bowl like what are we talking about? We could say Billy body Craves content Good body body Craves contact

Just didn't get enough for a reason or loin. Oh Sorry, that was bad doesn't mean I'm sorry. We're road dogs. Well, wait, wait till we see the video Yeah, right anything can happen the facts come out. Maybe you could edit it. You could CGI it No, maybe maybe it looks different. Then what do you remember? Oh, yeah He totally thinks it's gonna come out and he's gonna be like I I finished it in the video. Yeah Um, all right, my who's back is blue bloods because Kentucky and Duke are awesome and and Kansas Duke had Coach K last game at Chapel Hill got his fucking drunk grandson in the game at the end

I don't know if you saw that Jake when I got in he had trouble bringing the ball up the court I'm just gonna say that I was watching he's got Shire doing the half game. Okay, so I tweeted Shire also gets like he's I saw the other day He was like introduces the head coach of Duke. He's not yet He's not the head coach, but I tweeted wow coach K is not gonna have time for the media at halftime apparently He's been doing that for a decade Why 357 head coaches take half-time interviews, but one can't wait. Whoa. Are you are you just realizing now? Yeah, I didn't know that a huge hypocrite fraud. Well, no Jake is just realizing now because it's about a halftime interview with the media

Yeah, he never does half time because he plays by his own rules That's crazy. I understand he's a legend 40 years or whatever, but just take the interview It's 30 seconds They don't start the 15 minute halftime clock until the interview is done to me for fairness. Yeah, he's okay It wouldn't affect anything. No, it would because he would you know, he has to be different than everyone else, right? Crazy No, I mean, that's you know the best get different rules. That's how it works I think I'm showing his face during the intro for the UNC players like what are we doing here? I think it's taken away from the kids

I care about the kids nothing like coach K coach kids perfected the art of just being a dick all the time But once a year like cracking like a tiny little joke and smiling and everyone's like, oh, we love this guy Yeah, he's really he's set the bar so low for himself. He's the best Billy or who's back these hands? Oh Fucking step to Billy that was gonna be my who's back just the whole year go since it happened Kind of crazy Time he's learned a lot about himself this year. Yeah, I can't stop it What so a year Pat like what any thoughts about the fight? Um, I wish it could have been better for the viewers

That's not your fault. I know that's literally 0% your fault. I know you got in there. I was ready He even tried to hit him after he got knocked out. Yeah. Yeah, Jose's a scumbag through and through. Mm-hmm. That's not your fault Yeah, fucking knocked him out. What are you gonna do? Yeah You guys asked like four times on his oh Tell us about like your mindset that you got in when you were getting into the ring with him Like did you think that there was a chance that it was like kill or be killed and what would you describe that as? No, no, I was like all all kidding aside all kidding aside when you stepped into the ring

Against Jose Canseco and you were about to fight him like what was going through your head? It was just the most serious. I've probably ever been in my life. Well, if there was like a mode What would it be just war mode? Yeah, I went war mode. I mean you did you went? Yeah Blinding war mode. Oh, we should throw in this one extra story here about what happened to us in Amarillo at the end of the night Because we were going back to the hotel and there was a truck that was not a Chevy Silverado That was trying to drive down the same road. We were on but it was going the opposite direction got stuck in the snow We we did not we were right past it and then we pulled the ultimate alpha move on it Which is let's pull over and then we will push them out of the snow because we're in a big-ass car

They can get out of the snow So we get out and we start shoving this tiny little I think it was like a it was a low rider Yeah, it was like a low rider and we just start pushing the shit out of this thing And then these other guys come up and they're talk to Billy like yo you're swole You should be able to push this out and Billy's like I am swole And so we tried to push it out we pushed as hard as we could making a little bit of progress and then Billy goes Yo, what if I just got back into the truck, and then I just hit that truck behind And I was a suggestion a little push. It was like

You get it like goes slow until they're touching and then you push it Yeah, but if you had seen this truck it was halfway rusted out in the back You could see both the wheels through the bed of the truck if we had touched that with a Chevy It was turning to a powdery dust But yeah, that was that was a fun time when Billy got to push a truck out of the snow You are swole. He went war mode on the ground. Yeah, I'm gonna mode It was so fun. I just I mean now that I'm finally out of it. It's just crazy What are the open sky? It's enchanting

It's like you look at it, and it's just so wide open and you're just like wow He was saying Honestly, like when you look at the open sky and you see how big the Western skies That's the reason that our forefathers decide to explore the West Coast because that's not a good way genetically it induces Endorphins in your brain that make you want to explore He's right on spirey. Yeah

All right, Jake you're who's back my who's back aside from the investigation and tanking is the dolphins Oh, yes, I hired a new head coach Daniel watch that clip of his he seems very media friendly guy Yeah, big personality. See he's gonna save to a yeah. Yeah, that's big for you to expect us So looks like it's an exciting hire. Yeah, out of deadspin. They called it another white guy gets hired Well, so then shifter tweeted out and he says Mike McDaniel who identifies as biracial like white. I don't know Yeah, do you have to put the identify word on just yeah, I think he's just biracial, right? Not a big deal. What are we doing here? Yeah, but he seems he seems like a cool guy I don't very cool. I don't know anything about like what his responsibilities were on the Niners

All I know is that kiddle said like I want to close my contract saying that this guy's attached to me for the rest of his career That's good enough for me. So he's gonna be a dolphin kiddle So kiddle is going to go to the Miami Dolphins. Love that wait. So Florida has recreational weed. I think so I mean they must that was what I was my recreational that was big my big god take away I think they have recreational everything in Florida Wow, they don't Alright, hopefully I can look about that. You can figure that out. Why he probably has a card, right? Probably he probably can get weed other ways

I'm pretty sure in Florida the law is like if you're not actively killing someone then it's just chill Just like try to get away with it. Don't make us do too much work. That was the first thing when I saw it I was like, oh, wow, I didn't know Florida medicinal. Yes the criminal eyes know, okay So maybe he's good. He has medicinal legal status mixed. There we go. Um, okay Yeah, I actually like that hire. Yeah, what do we have left Texans Saints and I know Vikings got Kevin O'Connell So I'm actually very happy because I was afraid that Jim Harbaugh was gonna go to the NFC north You see the front runner for the Texans is right now. Lovey Smith. Oh, lovey Smith and Joshua Cowell. I think as well

Yeah, it's looking like it's not gonna get it. Okay, and then Eric Biennami in New Orleans Is interviewing I feel like if you're Eric Biennami and you've been waiting for a good place to go a place where you're set up To succeed like New Orleans seems like a pretty good. Yes. Yes. That's that's good for him. Yeah I I'm a little bit upset that Harbaugh didn't go to the Vikings because it would have been so so funny To watch how much he would have hated Kirk Cousins. Yeah, and Dan Campbell. Yeah, that's they would have fought Yes, there would have been fights at midfield for sure. Yeah, no I'm I'm very happy that the Vikings didn't hire him because he's a really good coach and he would have I Like it's gonna be weird because the NFC and we'll get into it more with Super Bowl week

But like Tom Brady just retired Aaron Rodgers may go to the AFC who the fuck knows where he's gonna end up like the NFC is gonna be wide open for a little bit wait, I just realized McDaniel and Kevin O'Connell, I think we're also coaches on that 2013 Washington Redskins team who Josh McDaniels No, no, Mike, Mike McDaniel. Got it. So I think that now like a Sixth of the league or like a fifth of the league is now former coaches from that team that sucks Also bonus who's back retirement shout out Joe West. They kind of know you're yes

Oh, I can't believe we didn't yeah, Joe West all-time guy Make Kevin O'Connell was not he was not okay. He was not good. He started coaching career in 2015. Good. Okay. Um, yeah, Joe West I'm gonna miss him. I treated out a couple clips the bum gardener stare downs all-time all-time Nelson Cruz selfie and during the I had the picture of him when he was signing autographs at Wrigley for little kids not making the game about himself Just expecting also who's the guy he fell on top of when he when there was a play at the plate That was like a minute to get off. Well, he didn't even get off. Yeah, he had to be helped off from behind Like pride off Roger Davis. Yeah, I'm gonna miss him so much. God damn it and his country albums. He's the best So he's a great singer. He's the one guy who like

He made it all about himself and I was like it was actually kind of endearing because it's like he makes it so much about himself That you have to respect it. You remember didn't he get hit with a throw to second base at one point Yeah, he did a flex and then he also obviously had though the the white arm band white arm band So that people would stop being mean to umps across America all umps matter. Yeah Yes, good call. Oh Jake. All right, let's get to our interview with Chris Berman unbelievable interview 80 minute interview We went up to Connecticut. This is the interview that Bubba did sleep through. That's okay Because I know people were asking Yeah, well, it's like God bless the broken road that brought Bubba. Yeah, this car

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Okay We now welcome on a very very very special guest long time coming. It is the Schwam boomer Chris Berman We're very very excited for this. This has been like I said a long time coming an honor for us I was thinking about it because I'm actually nervous for this interview. We've done listen. We've done a lot of interviews We don't want to mess this one up. So I was like, you know, what I'll do it for you Yeah, what could I start with though? Like oh, hey Schwam tells about 1979 I figured maybe an icebreaker if you have the wallet, we could just start. Oh, I want to start with Yeah, let's start with the wall. You got under sit. First of all, good. Nice to be with you fellas

This has been a long time coming and I appreciate I'll show you the wallet in a minute, but you don't get it right away. I Appreciate Really the respect that that you've shown me and I didn't know it so much in 16 17 18 But the time has gone on and I don't know what I've done to deserve it But I'm just playing back and Derek and Josh are PR mavens and set me like the last six weeks So I could hear the two past the two minutes. Yeah, I'm gonna give you two and they're like throwaway lines

They're not no one circles the way, you know, I mean I get it You know, and they're all the no, you know, I could I should have started the the answer with the what? Yeah, you're set, right, but I will do some work. No, okay. Yeah, I have any questions, but but There were two of them One was in the Jags lost to or they won but they still clinched the the number one overall draft pick As first reported by Adam. Yeah. Yeah, I lost That's like a throw away. It was like, okay. That's funny and then Chris Boswell with the Steelers I don't know if you used it before

Chris kick the field goal or Chris Boswell, New Mexico, the UFO like These guys are this is yeah another level here. It's well Here's what I'll say because this is out of respect for you and reading everything Your nicknames would always be spur the moment like popping your head pretty much We it takes us a while to do those so that shows how hard it is to do and how good you are at it because we would sit we sit there every Sunday night for about an hour and a half going through all the games and Everything I've read about you. It's like if the nickname comes in 30 seconds. It's there. If not, we go to the next guy pretty much Back in the day in baseball

I would do the 2 30 in the morning show and so you'd see a name and a you know the box score or whatever like, okay Well, kind of but you don't sit there Usually they might have to have like one beer not on a work day, but like, you know, okay The one but but if it doesn't and or let's say if you guys wrote in Or threw me a couple or guys on the crew or women on the crew. Hey, what about if I laugh? We are it's it's it's good to have go straight. So here it is. This is really slimmed down. This is Diet well, what happened No, this is that's well oil, but no, this is like that's a full snake

If not What a third of what it was, but this is pre can understand I used to have cards of everybody in here, but this pre Pre-internet pre-phone. So I had commissioners senators Everyone was it's the Schwam that is the Schwam. Can I hold it? It's It's a full snake, it's a full snake There's a few fifties in there Oh, yeah, that's nice. I'm telling you dieting. Oh, there you go That'll cost you to who I when you pull it out in 60 minutes though. Well, I'm one of the funniest things

I don't know that was happening and it's like One time I was on Leno and I forgot it was because I didn't want to leave it in the back It's in my side pocket. Just like it's huge, right? And that was the side being interviewed on I was like I looked at it later. Are you are you kidding? Looked like I had like a 20-pound weight in there. There's your wallet Came all the way to Connecticut to see the world. Yeah, one thing and then I'll be done. So nicknames, okay So our maven Josh over here has started, you know, big cat so Galaraga Yeah, maybe others have called you that I don't know but when he played course came up with Montreal

As so many of them did what a great farm So I started calling him Le Grand Shaw, which is the big cat. Oh, he liked it Yeah, I don't know how much French he knew growing up growing up, but it'd be a bunch of Le Grand Shaw Oh, so if you're Le Grand Shaw Now I've got to do something the French also. It's not a direct It's not a direct translation, but Le Rock on tour. It's not a cool. I like that But it's a story teller. Yeah purveyor of information. So Le Grand Shaw a Le Rock on tour. You know, we're doing French. I like not

Chatham that French. Yeah, I just tell you that I loved you. You did but You're a rock on tour. Yeah, whatever you want Amazing speaking the nicknames, I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but we're friends of booger We love Boog. He's come on the show several times To me all the time makes fun of the cats wait he's in a bicycle gang with me and We decided one time we're gonna try to intercept you with a nickname because he watches the games with you sometimes We watch all of them. So we tried to figure

How can we get inside Chris Berman's head? What is a nickname that we can throw out that he might actually pick up on? So we told him that the first time Jalen hurts through a touchdown. He should say hurts so good And it made it to the air and you said it course that was that was from us via booger our gift to you All right, and and we loved it. We used it. You probably would have gotten there on your own Yeah, because it felt like the cougar that's right up boomers out. Oh, I mean John Cougar melon ball. Yeah We yeah, I mean, that's a great song But then later on like the playoff game it you know

Love hurts as Nazareth. Yeah back. I mean, you know again a lot of these are pre-dating you guys Oh, yeah, we know a lot of the songs. We know a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah, so I so thank you for that No, the honor was all ours so good. Yeah, he had a few games. They got into playoff. Yeah I think he's a fine quarterback I think when he's playing within the system that they've got there. He can be okay. Yeah Did you see him dodge the stands falling apart at or at FedEx field? Oh, yes, that showed me Composure But a sense of where the rush is coming. Yes, absolutely. He knew exactly where it's coming

So I was reading before we sat down with you, right? I Knew the nicknames. I knew everything. I didn't realize the story and I don't know how often you told it That the nicknames almost went away for a little bit. Oh, they did you had a producer who said cut it with the nicknames and then George Brett saved it. Can you tell that story? It's incredible So in the early days, look when we are I mean again a lot of your viewers listeners and you have a million or would you know? Nobody imagines your age group even in your 40s that You know cable TV. I'm gonna pay 20 bucks for 36 channels. Why would I do that? I have to sleep

We didn't even have tape machines that right you have to sleep. We have to eat you got to go to work You how could I at any rate? So who knows who's watching my first four years? I did the late show which is 2 30 a.m It's 11 30 in California and it's you know 8 30 in Hawaii So a lot of people watching yeah, my friends and well at the time and I Don't care if you're up late even if that's your regular deal Stuff just comes out right so a Couple came out from back in college at Brown like this is only four years later. I'm on TV or three and Was the first one it was either Frank Tenana da Cree. Yep, or very good picture. Yeah, you're really good picture and

John Mayberry really good hitter RFD And I said one or two of them or maybe both in a segment because you probably they're both in the American League at the time California play We go to a break and I get my year. What was that? No, that's not where you were going. Yeah They just came I wasn't a plan. It just came out. It's quarter to three in the morning Frank Tenana da Cree. I've been calling them that for four years. It's not on national TV and although it's three and you know, it's late It was okay, nobody got hurt and the camera men laughed and

So the next night or two we did a few more at any rate now. Let me go about five years and I probably have 800 of them because it's baseball You're trying to embellish a little bit because it's every night and not all the games were video A lot of them was Kansas City 5 Seattle 3 for 30 seconds. Okay, so Don't make jokes and take information away. Don't do that But if I'm gonna say Frank Tenana da Cree struck out 13, I didn't it cost me a half a second, right? Didn't hey, here's a funny joke when they'll tell me about the game, please. So he so it was okay So we had a new executive producer high up name. It doesn't matter anymore

Like early September at 85 point. No, you can't use them anymore. I've been doing it for five years like Everybody likes them. Well, you know, we're trying to he had no real reason Probably it wasn't his idea which is usually the way it goes, right? Well, what do you mean like? No, you got to stop there's three weeks left in the season first of all if he's any smart You do it in November. Maybe nobody knows and then they don't come back, right? so Okay, so that's about three weeks. I'm telling a little too long a story, but

The only way I could have my own fun was mookie Wilson Then was William Wilson, you know and and Sparky Anderson was manager of the Texas with George Anderson Whitey hers. I got it called him Durell hers. So you cut all the nicknames even the ones that were yours. He didn't tell me that Yeah, I did. Yeah, right. I like a silent pro Durell Herzog. Who's that like well? He managed the card. He said no nicknames Yeah, I'm just doing it even Babe Ruth once I called the George So but whatever that's my own So the Royals George red was a great for is a great friend of mine, and he loved the nickname. That's how we met and and

Game one of the ALCS members only West in the east they played Toronto, I think and George Graham was covering it and George British He's George Brett right near the Royals and so there's 30 people that and and and are George Graham Wonderful person one a great professional great friend So George, can I get and of course at ESPN? I get boy. Are we rolling? Yeah, but wait a minute What's the story with my man not being able to use his nicknames? Well, these are all the baseball writers. It wasn't out there. It was no decree 1985 And a couple of the TV writers were there because it's a George Brett like if you could interview a Royals George Brett, right?

And by the way, they won the World Series that year, but He's it said I'll do the interview, but this is Yeah, you can swear well, no, no, he this is this is George Brett Yeah, and of course our management thought I put him up to it or George thought George Graham was involved. No, I didn't The next April They were back and he was gone there. Yeah, he fought the law and the law And I'm sorry That also speaks to your relationship with guys and you know being able to

To be in the media, but also be friends with some of these guys and it was like I just read that story I was like George Brett saved he did save boomer in the Schwab. He did. Well, he saved the nickname Yeah, and and he wouldn't try he was Yeah, he was mad. This is a game one of the it's like don't worry about that Worry about what the starting pitcher for Dave Steve or whoever was just gonna throw no more PO'd about that because he was mad. He also didn't have a nickname, right when you first met him Correct. Yeah, he goes. How come we don't have a lot of nicknames the Royals George are you kidding me? Yeah, he stuck out his head George Brett. Hey, how come the Royals don't have a lot

I mean, I don't know George like it. I you know, I can't call you wonder Brett. You've been you've been established too long I'm not gonna go halfway through your career Johnny bench now. I'm on I'm calling them Park bench now too late, right? So and you know Quissenberry is hard to get right. Yes. So, um, I Don't know and then he said, what's your nickname? I said, well, you know, not really you'll have one after the game Was a pennant games like last week of a season in 82. He had the winning hit Here's again interview in the locker room at it. He's describing the pit. Well, it was blown away He goes, there he is

Ethel Merman Berman like You just played like a big game my hook. Uh-huh. He's my guy. Oh, he's my guy. How did you get the name boomer? Okay, that's and My first year late One of a man that became a legend at our place Became the head of all the technical named Chuck Pagano local boy here in Waterbury, Connecticut He became executive VP just because he he worked hard and did his job. He was good. You're a deep voice, too You're loud on these highlights

We're gonna call you the boomer like that came from a co-worker if you will mm-hmm, and it's stuck and You know, we we've had argument Society and David Wells. Yeah, you know, etc. Who was which is the bigger boomer, you know, keep me out of that But so it came from a co-worker who worked the overnight shift with me and it's stuck, you know, like In the early days, maybe even in your world your first Three-foot something really worked. You weren't planning on it. You go with it. Yeah, and it's stuck. Yeah What about the swamp? Well, that was mine that that was I love the swam. I'm picking games. Well, so now it's 1979

I start October 79 was football season. I do the late It's a sign-off the first six months like good night. Well, maybe not Friday night Maybe not Friday night that we went though it neither or there. I Said I'm gonna Pick five games, you know against the spread of the weed. You know, you just said things like It'll be closer than expected. Yeah, I mean, this is 1979 1980 81 There's all sorts of what they're gonna win much more handily than you think, you know I mean, duh, you know, what am I telling you and I put the score up. Oh, yeah

Always put the score up so you could figure and it was never right on it was always at least a field goal one way or the other Right, so I left no doubt as to what I was picking, you know, and then I gave and I gave the record with you know Have the little thing next to it because I remember as a kid being like wait He just picked like the Cowboys, but why does the thing? Why is the thing next to? Like what and I always love the scores the scores like you know, you're the only guy that would be like, all right Cowboys are gonna beat the Niners 19 to 11 like what where's that score or a defensive game? I I want I go three to two Telling you to bet the under necessarily it's just three to two or one I had

Yeah, I don't know, you know, like 74 70 like just It's a wink without hitting you over the head with it Which I think sometimes the audience feels like they're involved in so they they have an inside joke with you Something that's understood, but you're not explicitly telling them which in turn will make the audience like you more because it's like Oh, I identify with this guy. We speak the same language Wasn't doing it with that in mind, but I think that's true and another thing behind the scenes I mean, we're primitive technically. I mean and not only 79, but even 82 83. I told Oreo I told Tyron we called it which are the graphics

You have fun in this segment and we did a live too. So Tampa Bay Put them in orange Who it's not our format like we put them in orange, you know, we're picking the 40 yards put them in red That was like a big deal for the person doing graphics Put me in reverb, you know, when I come to this game, which was You don't do that like it sounds like a complete mistake But when I go pick this wild upset do so the audio guy was fired You know, it's just three o'clock in the morning on on a on a Friday and they're so they're involved

Then and a couple times I'd have the camera like move like wave it around We're not really supposed to do that, but this is our segment And so everybody my my guys and ladies who are we like, you know, we're working with we all felt involved I felt that was and and the viewers. Yeah, and it's I mean the the one thing that I think that you You're so good at and why people are so drawn to you is that sports are supposed to be fun And you always had fun and that's like the that's the thing to me is like if the person's having fun You feel it and you you know that they they're enjoying this and they're not taking it too seriously And that's that's that that's what comes across

Don't you believe that I mean this is not necessarily what you want to change our jobs If you're walking down the street and someone's digging a ditch. I'm making it up Whistling and listening to music head. Let's say has a boombox so you can have it again You might even stop and watch for a couple minutes not say good. I want to be a ditch digger, but Okay, yeah, man It's not brain surgery, right, right? It's so yeah, it's supposed to be fun watching sports is fun Watching people do highlights about sports. That's supposed to be fun, too I think just like the contagious

Enjoyment that you brought to it influenced everybody else that came up watching it I think we've gotten away a little bit from that in the last few years too where people think that sports It has to be it always has to mean something bigger and while sometimes that's very true Sometimes sports are just like that's what people use to blow off steam. They want to enjoy themselves It can be a break from something and that's I think sometimes You know, we have to remind ourselves of that You're a good inspiration for that. We've always appreciated that about you. I'm not alone with it But here's what I would say so for two-thirds of our career

For example prime time was to do that not even the baseball Sports Center prime time to get it 87 and until like 2005 Pick a year 2008 You saw three games. Yeah, you live in New York, Chicago. Yeah, Washington The Arizona Seattle game that was 48 45 You might have seen one drop in because it was a 90-yard bomb in the middle of the game You were watching the late the Cowboys, right? Yeah. Well, that's the best game of the day. Here's five minutes So and do it. This is where they make a mistake now Everyone assumes and they are you hear about? Oh, there was a there was a play and you call it on your phone in one second

That's cool, but even at the end of the day when you know everything Here's a meal serve me the whole meal of week 12. Yeah, for example Or even all the baseball or a pick your sport Give me the meal and those doing the highlights. I've stayed with this 42 and a half years. I am old I have socks older than you guys. I keep them for floods, but We're about the ties. What's your oldest time? Oh ties about 300, you know, when was the last time you bought a new tie though? Well, I kept buying them up till COVID. No, and then I looked I went like the one I wore this week I haven't seen this in 10 years. I love this time. It's like I forgot it was in there

You know and so some of them are you know 80s were even a hot color like just a color like purple or yeah Turquoise was you know, I still got those The producer ever say like hey, hey boom that that tie like it's too much. Well, well It can be but never wore the ridiculous. Maybe And doing a giant Stodgers game and I wear it, you know palm tree tie It's stop right but back to just think to People should not assume that everyone watching has seen the game or the highlights Therefore you owe it to the viewer to do them like they're alive even though it says

It's gonna be And he's gonna leap over a tackler Wait till he jumps and then say it. Don't say it. He's gonna leap over a tackler score a touchdown Well, he's still on the 15 right give it to you the viewer Like it's happening live even if you see it's a game that you've seen like a playoff game. We've all watched them, right? Yeah, yeah, do it anyway. So I do it anyway Yeah, I also grew up watching George Michael in the sports great out of DC and he was an awesome broadcaster in his own Right. He did it the other way though. He would always say the result before the highlight. That's okay result of game is okay

I mean the play. Yeah, he wouldn't say he's gonna leap over a tackler at the 10 and then right. That's what I mean Oh, you could that's okay because he's that's fine. George was great as was for highlights I mean Costello is the obvious they taped him our fastest three in the day was live like you could make a lot of mistakes Yeah, I've did you ever screw up real bad? Oh Live half time. I mean, I used to have a thing with my director Jeff When like just keep the puck in front of us, you know, and at the end of the line of food was like, huh, I Think they got one by us, you know But it's it's it's it's so true about

Primetime and it's hard to explain it now because you know, we're both 37 we grew up in the 90s We remember prime prime time was the thing on Sunday night. You sat down. You're like, I want to watch every highlight It's hard to explain now to kids who are you know, 25 or younger because they've always had red zone Right, but it was it you would like Sunday night You sit down you watch boom and teach and they tell you everything that happened the NFL on Sunday I look I'd watch it had nothing to do with us doing it and Tommy is you know, like my best friend I mean, we were we worked almost 30 years together who we talk every week, you know He we he lives in Cincinnati. He's pretty fired up right now. Yeah, but

Primetime was a gift That we got to do it That ESPN got to do it That then you wouldn't the president yet, but at the time Steve Bornstein said I'm doing it He invented it with when we ESPN got Sunday night games the last eight weeks in 87. That was like a big deal ESPN 87 World Series would be over that was about Halloween and then the last eight weeks was Sunday night, but we're also and I didn't invent it We're venting this show that we have the right to show as many highlight minutes as we can in that one hour

And he also told Pete Rose Ellen. I got we're gonna throw it and I got the guy to do it and that's how it happened We can't we can't on the plus show and on the championship and then after the Super Bowl, but but the regular Because NBC has Sunday night when they got that at 06. They have the rights. They could make that show primetime, you know Right, they have the rights to do it. I'm not saying they should or they shouldn't but they don't and we Can't remember we used to be on the Tommy and me and Trent like we did it, but we were limited in time The prime time was okay. We have commercials If you can stuff 12 pounds of blanket or a 10 pound bag just go ahead and do it and run 40 minutes of highlights

Say your name and just roll. Yeah, and that's what it was And it was I mean would you say that was getting primetime and that move in 1987 was the biggest like Thing for your career and yet because like that was so huge for ESPN I'd imagine getting those biggest thing we ever did. Yeah, the fact that Pete Rosell one of the smartest people I Got to know him. He liked me for whatever reason think he knew I like football just like I appreciate any of you guys Yeah, I like young guys that like football That's what you guys do you know football you watch football and you'll you'll admit like hey, I didn't know that Fine. Yeah, you like football. It's not that hard. So friends. We love football. Yeah, we're good

But so Pete in any rate Pete the fact that he cable ooh This is a big step in 87, but if the NFL rubber stamped it So it's the biggest thing for us To everyone who worked there We ain't going anywhere now as a network. We're here. We always thought that not always in 81 But by 85 86 we're doing pretty good. Well, we're here now and then that show My favorite thing that I've ever done. Yeah, how could it not be? Yeah, you know, I was lucky to be in this

I would watch it As a fan and why wouldn't you want to see what happened in these even the horrible games? You can't there's no highlights. You could show it. You know on the network a drop-in of eight guys Squealed pigging the ball and it's you don't show that we do. Yeah, you know in the music the music is everything You know the natural thing that you would say if somebody was doing the squealed pig play That would be a whoop situation. Yes. No, no, no

Rumbling bumbling stumbling and fumbling would be part of the whoop came from Barry Sanders Oh, okay, so that it came as a whoa. There's no other way to describe Barry's I think his ankles were bionic Tommy and I both think this because he there's no way you could swivel as a human being like this And so that was the whoop of the whoop of that was more Barry's moves that come from Barry Sanders Uh-huh. He's he's the the impetus for that Now it's anybody that kind of does that. Yes now it because the sound I get stopped all the people like 15 20 or what let's say it what I think I'll go nuts

But it's so now I've moved it to the squealed pig But it was started with Barry Sanders and of course a Lamar Jackson type of player You would do it with but that's where it came from out of respect for Barry. So what is the secret to a good whoop? I've heard you hit I've heard you hit somewhere Yes, it was like down at the right somewhere. Yeah, it was it was against the Falcons It was like early like early October or something you let out this whooped that I swear Oh, yeah, you could hear it it bounced off the back wall the studio. Okay back to you. Yeah, I heard it twice and I like I Was inspired by his leap like he took a five-year it was like a

Someone trying to do the pole vault, you know in the Olympics like you run on a long way to take this leap It wasn't just a little leap because the tackler went low. I don't even think the tackle went that low He's a little guy. Yeah, so he went I Was like the first I was at halftime, right? Yeah, so it's the first real whoop of the season that I could crank out on a halftime play I do think of that every now and early in the year Let's let's put more ingredients in it a little bit get a warm up the pipes, right? Yeah, you got to warm it up first Yeah, it was not the first you got a prize two minutes. Yeah, so do you do you like?

Open up your chest. Is it from the diaphragm? Is it just like McKissick did I took a running leap? Yeah It is I mean even you doing those little whoops for Barry Sanders like we do it, but when you do it It's like, oh, yeah, but you're doing it. You like it. Yeah, but Like it's not the same it's only you we also love the the Raiders I try to do the Raiders when we run the scores back I do as much as I as I can do a good job. I've heard it Thank you so much. That means the world to me But when I do it, I feel like it takes my my entire body about two minutes to recover from it I don't know if that's something does it hurt. Yeah

well that really is it's again, it's taken on a life of its own but And everybody loves that and Scott of course the fan Pelt runs it I mean, yeah, he has my best couple and he has it on a button even if they're not playing. I think he presses it They it was really an old Al Davis. Yeah, who really liked us Al This is Al's voice in the 80s when I met him first couple times, you know why I root for ESPN Because you're the underdog just like that

Okay, yeah, the Raiders and they were winning all the time then of course you heard him all the other way So that's really an ode to Al. So a lot of these are owed to Barry How so that but the Raiders now everybody loves the law that again, that's great. That's a Louis Tiont wind-up. Yeah, that's a Right, yeah, you're just a batting practice. I haven't had a sip of water in a half an hour. Yeah So I'll be ready the next time. Yes So alright, so the whoop the Raiders we got to do circle the wagons because that's I mean that picture too of you holding The big bills Jersey. Well, and we're we're honorary members of Bill's Mafia

We write a city of Buffalo. We love Josh Allen, but there's just something about no one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills It just well that team in the late 80s and 90s were I mean they never won a Super Bowl But they they only wanted to go to four straight so say no more and it's Hall of Famers and Obviously Jim Kelly and Andre Reed and Thurmond Thomas and Bruce Smith and you know what they may have others in Cornelius Ben It was a great player we go on Marves and Marvelleves in the Hall of Fame Bill Pulling one of the great executives of all times in the Hall of Fame Ralph Wilson the owners in the Hall of Fame It and it's Buffalo, right? You know, it's it's other than Green Bay. It's about the smallest now I mean, it's the bills and this is the city in Western New York. They asked for nothing

I started picking them in 88. They were horrible for the whole decade They thought I was out of my mind. They started 4-0 and I got to the championship game in loss of the Bengals Actually thought these Bengals except they've now gone to the Super Bowl reminded me of the 88 bills like I wasn't sure they were gonna get past Kansas City, but they've already announced we're here for a while like we're really good. Yeah, you know I actually said that so I forget what game it was and I just cranked it out on Primetime no one, you know looking right in the camera No one circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills and it became a war chant

Even the years they were terrible. I mean up until Josh here and coach McDermott, etc Not a lot of great, right? But it just became so much fun and I I don't want to do this But I guess I will tell the story since you brought it up. I would what so If you're a rock and roll singer, let's say because I saw Billy Joel in Fenway And then you're singing piano man and everybody knows the words, right? He played it Wrigley, but he played all these places any arena And you get halfway through and then you lay out and you hear if you're Billy Joel

I hear them sing every word and he's like, oh my oh my oh my god I like this is so when Thurman Thomas had his number retired It's only about four years ago on a Monday night They asked me Thurman did what I come up and the bills it took quick And I'm gonna speak real quick someone else gonna say something for a minute there. I'm just gonna speak it's halftime And I got up for 20 seconds and again the place is packed They're playing the Patriots when the Patriots will beat them a lot. This is they played well that night Buffalo They weren't ready yet, you know, I think Josh was a rookie. Okay, so I think yeah, he was um

And I said, okay Buffalo, you know where we're going here. We're doing it on three and like this in the 70,000 I went no one and then I stopped and I heard Like the Buffalo Bills, I mean wow that's Billy Joel singing piano man It was really my relationship In my 43 years the relationship that I've ended up by accident because I'm on ESPN and the bills and It's Buffalo and the P the players the team the organization the players and the city 30 years later It's the most rewarding relationship. I've gotten through my job. They're great people. Yeah, we've they're great people We've experienced nothing. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, we every time we go. It's like this place

There's so nice to us. So you did do I have to ask the seven-year stretch the Schwam predicted the Niners vs. Bills and for people who don't like they're like, oh, he was just putting on seven years in a row Either the Niners or the Bills went to the Super Bowl and you predicted Niners Bills every year to begin the season You were so close a couple times close this year. You're close this year. I mean Really thought of it. Hey, you could get it. Yeah, the swam 12 years in a row and here's part. Well I'm loyal and I'm a Taurus too. So I'm loyal and I'm stubborn But the Niners were my relationship professionally in the 80s and I can call a lot of those guys

Obviously same with the Bills. So when the Bills got good 88, I started at that I did 12 years around the first seven one or the other never the same time There was always the John Harper running a slant at candlestick. There was always Well 89 the bills kind of They had the bickering bills and they didn't make it. We were close so many we were close so many times I have one of the balls. They used to send us the balls the four possible The team matchups for our championship Sunday countdown Actually, the one I saved was 92 that was the one that was gonna happen

Actually, that was the Frank Reich here. Yeah, they almost lost but then the Niners and Dallas was Up and coming but not really yet an 8 minute Alvin Harper on like a 70 yard slant post And I have that ball. I bring it out every now and then you know, that's amazing those first Niners Super Bowl at the Rose Bowl. Oh, I gotta keep that. That's perfect Can we go back just a little bit to before you even became a broadcaster because I read that you were a history major Brown yeah, I'm right. I like it So what what inspired you like why did you decide to study history and then what made you change into, you know Pursuing broadcasting as a as a full-time gig

well Abe Lincoln wasn't a good football player, so I had to move on that that's the that's the funny answer But you know, he could have been you have interviewed presidents totally great tight end in the red zone. Well, yeah Yeah, post the tight end just throw the ball. He was good. No, no to answer your question seriously Brown So little different in the 70s Brown had a really good read. I always wanted to do this, you know, little rock on tour I always wanted to do this Professionally, I thought it would be cool But I also didn't I'm not saying right or wrong didn't the journalism school. No, not no good. Don't get me wrong

No, I'm fortunate enough to get into brown. I love history. I'm gonna do it. I wrote 40 page papers I'm a pretty good writer. I mean, I don't mean like I said in a novel but Brown had a really good radio station 50,000 watts. So back then it wasn't so much. Ooh, I'm not gonna take a course in it You do it on your own like going to college anything You want I think I want to go into drama. I want to do plays. I want to do this Do it on your own if you find you're not spending the time doing it That's probably not really what you want to do and I became the voice of brown You know Bruins football and basketball, etc. So it wasn't like a change. I knew history was just doing it while I was there

and so my first job was a little radio station in Rhode Island right out of college for about a year and then Radio a little less little radio station in Rainier here in Waterbury, Connecticut And then I got on for I don't know how because I had didn't have the full but I had you know You got the 70s And I have my hair Akeman, huh? I got the Troy Akeman. I'm Facebook. Well, it's never coming in No, but the but you know late 70s. I had this and I had hair to

You know, we we it's what we look like and not like it was anything. What are you trying to prove? I'm trying to look like the guy right next to me. So And I got on TV in Hartford just the weekends $23 on Saturday night and $23 on Sunday in Hartford. I'm not talking about press Guile, Maine I'm talking about Hartford 23 bucks after minimum great and I was on for three months So I'm just 24. I'm kind of ahead of the curve a little I mean, I wasn't really good But I'm not bad. You're doing you're doing hard for that's a that's a decent-sized market

I'm on well only because they didn't that the second job was where the UHF station We didn't have a full-time second gig. So they just needed somebody to come in on Saturday and Sunday night I'm your guy and then ESPN was just starting and I said, I'm not even gonna send you a tape and I'm pretty raw but go look and I mean, I thought the question you asked me, but it was I always knew I wanted to do it I love doing history. I set out to see if it would work and then we got on ESPN and in October 1st 1979 with three week three months had ESPN been three years in existence

Not ten three years never would hire me not on that experience. No way So as we're getting ESPN off the ground, how close did it come to? Failing right off the bat. Were there ever any times where you were like, I don't know if this concept can work Mean the ESPN as it as a concept. Yeah Well, I was too young to worry about that so but to answer your question because I've certainly had a lot of time in retrospect to think about it We had getty oil was our benefactor and how that came together la ish. I don't know but that for fun. They were they were making money, you know and They were in it. We knew they'd give us a couple of years that none of this trickled down to me

I mean I look I'm I'm going home with quarter four in the morning, you know They didn't get me on the on the hot phone and say well, what do you think? What do you think we should tell our investors tomorrow, right? I wasn't in that loop, but a Year in I thought you know, this is a good idea Who knows if cable is gonna do this which we didn't know and who knows if we're gonna do this Which we didn't know but I think there's people just for us. There are people out there Well here your tool There are people out there like me because I'm running into people more on the West Coast like hey, you're the late guy

Not ad nauseam, but people are Watch it and people don't all work nine to five not that they ever did but now we're in the 80s we The restaurant people they come home at 12. I don't mean out of a bender or anything. Just I'm putting something on for two hours. It's great. Yep, and you realize that There's all sorts of folks who are like us that aren't nine to five. They're not asleep at ten o'clock you know, so Give them a show so I thought it was a good idea, but If you draw one of those graphs

Like we all had in school and Ross Perot tried to run president on like you Cable in the 80s was it was was a rocket ship. Yeah, you know We have said this before we followed cables coattails But they kind of followed ours a little at CNN was I give them the nod and MTV 79 80 82 So now you got you have Sports you have news and you have music and you're checking in a hotel in Portland, Oregon in 1986 and if they had some sort of get you got all three That's your hometown station even though you live in Chicago or Washington or wherever you are. Oh, I get them here

It's pretty good. So we had a feeling it was a good idea and cable was like this. So Who knew I I didn't have that kind of knowledge to predict that not even the Swami could have predicted cable TV was gonna be a rocket ship And did anybody ever back the Brinkstruck up for you? Anyone? Yeah, I try to get you out. Yeah So Compare I mean comparative Brinkstruck let them in we're still cable, but so 19s We started I started we started in 79 89 so that's 10 years

NBC came pretty hard and It was a real normal oil I Wouldn't say to a fall, but I'm loyal as hell, but it I Don't mind saying I was making in the I don't know great. I mean one hundred fifty hundred sixty somewhere and they're not to Essentially offered four times

So this went on for like five months not bad because I had about Seven months to go, but this was gonna break the mold of what we do I mean, it's the same as real real life some teams that can't afford it right like Right like it like a baseball. Let's say right. Hey, we're cable. Well, we're all right, but When I said Steve Bornstein Basic is I Went to Brown I can add, you know, don't fault me for this

it's not a But in the end I said you don't have to match this you have to get within a nine-iron and I don't know what that means Yeah, and he's not a golfer My nine-iron suck, you know, but and they did now it's the best decision I ever made because Because and that's really I have one other interesting story that it's more of a life story No, that I don't tell very often but but it's a back to that one We got the NFL in 87 If I went there I would be waiting to be the NFL guy behind Costas was doing at the time

Well, I'm doing that and I'm doing it for an audience and I'm doing it every day So and yeah, they had the Olympics and they had I mean this NBC and they you know this net So in the end you don't have to match But I can't stay at me. Yes, so that that's that was the Brink's truck any other other than that not really now Here's the interesting one Not ooh, Christopher as I look back at life. You know how we look at life and always wonder If I had done this or if this had happened, how would my life have gone? I mean you could do that with your family. You're dead. I mean my wife

I Was somebody else or it was nobody else or I might have taken that job and we wouldn't have gotten married or whatever it is Right, even now I'm talking about life decisions. Mm-hmm. So San Francisco Giants are of all They're the number one Seven years old Willie Mays. Okay. Yeah, I'm saying more right 1960s in the world series I'm seven years old. He's Willie Mays. I grew up in Connecticut. He plays for San Francisco I'm a giant fan. I know you're a little kid. You know what a giant is like that's who a giant, right? It's Willie Mays Pretty good, right?

so that's My goals coming out of college pie in the sky, maybe be Brent Musburger, which I I'm not saying I've become but I had the job But one was I'd like to do the Giants and The owner of the team that was named Bob Laurie great guy still around. I mean, he doesn't know the team But he's wonderful San Francisco Operates now. I think we Christmas cards, you know, we

And I got a call from his office in 88 The Giants are playing the three games at the Mets. He'd love to see it for lunch Hey, I'd met him. Okay Well, here's where we're gonna meet at the 21 Club. No, I'm you know, 21 Club is already, you know I don't usually go into New York and I've lunch at the 21 Club. I might have it at cats is deli so Whatever and he goes next year This was new at the time the team is gonna hire the announcers always the stations now

It's the team, you know, it's a group thing, but yeah, that was a big deal And I wanted to know if you'd be interested in being our announcer Wow it's like my from Junior high if I could announce the Giants and live in San Francisco. I love that city. Oh He goes you have to tell me now and we had a great two and a half hours. No money was discovered What in the point?

He goes but did call me tomorrow. Here's I'll be at the such-and-such hotel. I always have lunch in my room or whatever he said And now I'm conflicted. I don't tell this one that often so And it probably would have been not the NBC money more and living in San Francisco and Okay, doing your team and I'm hired by him so I Said Bob I can't believe I'm gonna tell you this You've come to me a year too late. I

Can't believe I'm saying it You've come to me. You're too late. I'm I'm Brent Musburger a Year later yet two years later. He has pain and I'm getting major league baseball And I asked to do the West Coast games on Tuesday night for a couple years so I could do a lot of Giants Mm-hmm You would go on to manage the bridge truck was backed up so by not taking the break struck I had I had some some poem getting Yeah, you got to manage the Giants later on. Oh, I was that was great. Yeah, one and one

With two your two springs in a row if they even have spring training anymore. Yeah, they may not this year I don't know. But anyway, here's how good a guy. He was because I want to finish this tour I know we're going long, but I've got nowhere to go and you know, you can run this in April, you know Pause at the end of the line he goes after you telling me What you did yesterday at lunch? This is Bob Lurie. You made the right decision. Huh? That's how good a guy He was he also took less money And selling the team in 93 not to have it move out of town To the TROP the Giants in the TROP really yeah, but

But then that's not a knock on St. Pete. It's just they're the Sanford I know they were New York, but this is yeah, but he took less. That's the kind of guy he is less money He got plenty But less money Because he's a San Francisco guy and he thought it was a pretty good group McGowan and that group and they're gonna stay so speaking of San Francisco. We have to bring it up the catch You were there. Love it. Is that true? You were there? You've seen it We gotta run it. I was it was you got the hair 40 years ago

Last month yeah, I mean we had to run it had to no I ran it again. I mean I play it again. I mean it was The game itself There were a lot of turnovers in it. It was not As far as a pure game like Kansas City Buffalo where there were no turnovers like I mean we can get to Football now. I know we're gonna get there eventually or maybe we got all night so we could do it so um Um And I picked the Niners all year partly because I'm doing the west coast show there were six and ten the year before Yeah, I was on them every week. Yeah, I go out to the championship game. I don't know anybody

They line up to do interviews like 11 of them. You're the swami you pick us every week I didn't know they two years in We have plenty of time for you and that's everyone from Joe Montana, right to you know the offensive linemen to Charlie young the tight end and then we go on and on and on and on and then of course they win and I you know I'm friendly with the owner ready to Bartolo and then here you go with with um And now they win this and we're on the field. I mean The catch and it said so now the game ends now did you a stand up? You got one shot to your overrun

One you can try another one, but it ain't First of all the the cameraman's carrying a Uh a heavy pack and the wire is that people can get hurt actually if you let every Here they come we run out. It's about eight seconds to eight and ready three We got one shot. So that was under pressure. Yeah, so I was a young kid I delivered but then again Joe Montana and Dwight Clark delivered a little better than that still remains An iconic game. It does just just And it was the start of there. Yeah, it's the start of them. Yeah. Yeah

It's like the tuck was the tuck game was the start of the patriots Yeah, look what they did with it for 20 years. The catch was the start of 15 years. Yeah, it just you didn't know it um I played the bangles. I love that clip. It's the uh, you're one shot again You have one shot and you you got to think about every time you watch it like wow We nailed it in that one shot. Well, no one's thinking about that, but I am like, yeah, I would have got my cameraman hurt. Yeah, we we remember every and Dwight who Passed of ALS a couple years ago

Became of all those guys my best friend of that group other than the owner Eddie de Bartolo. They became all my and uh Oh, it's just interesting how we and when they the last night at candlestick We we ran I Dwight and I resurrected it. That's awesome. I mean I threw it actually He jumped and you know, it was December of 13. It was a monday night came pregame. We got to do it one last time That's amazing. So, uh, you mentioned, you know, the modern the modern uh era and the super bowl that we've got coming up here in a week and a half What's the swamp predicting for the super bowl? Well as we sit And you guys let me pass so far. So I'll throw it out. So I know I'm immune from it

You know what day this is It's groundhogs. Yeah, dude. Dude. Dude. Yeah I know 222 so now I'm good, right? Yes. Yes. There you go. Um, um You can't write this stuff. Actually, it's even it's almost written like you're guys fast as two minutes You know the first Boswell, New Mexico Nobody knows about Roswell, New Mexico um little green guys, but um

So as we sit it this is on groundhogs. They so I'm not dodging could we talked about it before we're not holding this is super bowl. I didn't think Yeah, I don't think I didn't count on this one. No, which is fine I mean the Bengals earned every bit of it. But if you really want to get into it, I mean, I'm very close with the chiefs and the bills So we had As great a playoff game as we've ever seen two weeks ago Which I shall and Patrick Mahomes and nobody made a mistake and each I mean you got to be the record will show 13 seconds But that they both took the lead twice in the lap

I mean you I don't have to tell you Yeah The only playoff game I could think of that was not the catch because there's like eight turnovers in that game It was great excitement But I don't go exciting you talk about a great game I go to san diego at miami in 81 40 years ago and when it's on the wind slow Carried off. That's the only one and by the way San Diego who won it lost the Cincinnati the next week. So maybe that's the problem

So here's Kansas City did all that to beat Buffalo and then they laid that egg In the second half give the Bengals full props. I mean that whatever they did Patrick Mahomes for I can't this is Wednesday. I'm pretty close with them. I I don't know What that was yet? Yeah, it was some team I don't recognize and that's give sincey credit. So I'm not dodging Because they can who's to say they can't win One thing that that coach reed told me in the middle of the week going into that game Said do you think?

Even though they've beaten you before and so they're confident That the moment could be all of a sudden or down in the third quarter. I posed this tool down in the third quarter And I didn't predict down 21 to three or whatever or 21 to 10. What have you and Um The moment they look around in the moment becomes a little big for him He was quick to say All those guys that won national championships on that team and not only the quarterback and the receiver

But a lot of others who have played in If we're counting on that we're in trouble They told me this in the middle of the week. Wow. That was not an xo thing. That was just a conversation He didn't count on it. I don't know. I don't know what happened. So I'm The bangles like we're just missing the boat. Yeah, I think more points, too We keep taking that pick the winner. Yeah, we talked about that But guys like once we figure that out, it's over Right, anyone figures anything out with gambling it all comes back right what we're talking about is until the Niners

The rams won but didn't cover Every other playoff game. We just picked the winner. Yep. In other words, if the 49ers won, they're an underdog easier said than done Right. Yeah. Yeah, yeah Won those games they're an underdog you take the but you throw the spreads out so But given that the playoffs we've had so if four You'd think well, it's gotta be a field goal game, doesn't it? Is it the way it you would and you would hope so after the Of course the first round of the playoffs were awful. Yeah There were a lot of teams that shouldn't have been in. Yeah, you know seven the seven playoff teams

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Now here's more chris burman. What's the biggest? What's the best bet you've ever won? Well, because I love that you all I mean now we're obviously Gambling is is is big and everyone talks about you were prediction. We're not even talking about because I First mortgage I was done doing that. Yeah, so I'll be I don't mind saying 83 mortgage. I Yeah, I make my picks. I make my five picks on tv. I live and die with them. Everybody knows that I live and die with them. Sure because I want people to do you know um So that 81 season I was on the Bengals who were six and ten and the 49ers who were six and ten

Like all year So I was like 68 percent because I have five picks says an out of San Francisco Now let me take a three more, you know, but that was just I've had other years when it's been horrible There's been a couple of funny ones Like more it always says it always works out at the end when you bring the ball to the game you make the rules So there was one year But then I'll give you the greatest one ever which was my walk off swami pick by accident There was one. It's one of the great football games

I was 12 under 500 You know, whatever it is going into the last week of the season 93 And Cowboys had giants big game It was the Emmett Smith game with the shoulder and he ran for 180 yards So it's a famous game as it turns out said I'm picking one game and it's worth 13 And you you can't do that. No, if I lose I'm 25 under I'm putting it up

Don't worry. Yes, but it's worth a 13 star special. Yes And I I said 16 13 Dallas, which was the score. Wow It's a nobody in the building I don't know. I'm doing it off the top of my head. I don't think it was 19 16 I think it was 16 13 if I'm wrong. It's one of the two, but I'm saying 16. It's a long time ago overtime score Emmett's great game like

Don't talk to me. I'm one over and then we started the playoffs And then the other one was my final so in 2016 when I was You know changing what I was doing so the final ended up being New England and Atlanta that's Super Bowl My pick in the Super Bowl not the score had New England by six now I'd be lying if I said, wow, they're gonna trail 28-3. They're gonna go to overtime. I'm gonna win by six I didn't have that But the final was New England by six is like I'm done. Yeah, I'm not making another pick. You nailed it. I'm done

That's got to be the best one of all time. It is that's right. I got to that But the Emmett one I remember I took such flack in the build. You can't do that. I can do whatever I want My segment exactly your show your podcast. Yeah, you want to do it. Go ahead Did you ever uh, I have three game of the years already and we're early in February I mean, it's true. I'm three and oh game of the year You gotta have three games and you got another one people are like, how do you have this many game of the years? Like well, I keep seeing games that are game of the years, especially when you win it It's your ball you brought it

Did you ever happen to run into uh, hunter s. Thompson back in the 70s 80s? Because no he was he was another big gambler. I know he was tight without davis back then Well, pete ax some who we work with was hunter thompson's buddy. But no, I I don't think I met him back then I mean, I you know, all that stuff was legendary. They all were You know the new york jinn mills and the jimmy the greek circle and the no I didn't I mean they were they they ran an interesting life. I was not yet Remember we're up here. We're two hours away from the yard. You didn't go in and and Do whatever and then try to make your way home. So the answer is no it would have been interesting though

Yeah, for sure. That would have been an all-time hang. I would imagine. Yeah, and pete would have been there You know work with us pete ax them was like Jimmy the greek and it'd be pete was brilliant. He was with us our first years in prime time and Countdown or game day. We called it. Yeah one thing I wrote down that I have to bring up Uh, we're a big fan of yours all around big fan of your golf game as well Love the wide brim hats Has has anybody ever told you like maybe Don't wear a gray shirt when you're going to be out in the

95 degree sun. Yeah, yeah sweating. I sweated at 12 Okay, so it I sweated a long time ago before I was well, I'm better You know, I lost a lot of weight now, but I mean again, that's the it's the titanic losing a few deck chairs. So, um They're floating right out there Um Great, I never wear great. No, it's always colorful. But I mean if it's less You got a carnation shirt, you know or a or a Nice sharp purple shirt

Look, I is what if you've ever come to my studio, which now I mean I'm only but back in the day three hours, you know countdown Even in september the camera people had the word a jacket You can hang meat in there. Yeah, because I sweat in igloo. Yeah, I run pretty hot too After I do a shirt. Yeah, why in church? Yeah, right a lot of stuff. Yes, they do It gets it. It's like a magic eye poster black and that would be black always, but I wear black shirts Well, right, but not on a golf course when it's 88. Yes. Yes. Can we tell you something funny that you probably have no idea about? That's a very weird. You're gonna think we're stalkers your

Suit cleaner in canada kit. Yeah had a signed poster Of is it the grid father? We have that in our studio. He gave it to us I could send you as many as you want. We have that one from your dry cleaner Because his son is a huge fan of ours and he said I've had this my dad's done the Schwarm suits for 30 years I want you guys to have it. It's sitting in our studio. It's very funny every single time you you know come in It's right there. I have I have plenty of them. They supposed to print 420 years ago and I there's 4,000 so I I haven't gotten rid of all those. Okay. Yeah, but that guy here

I mean your dry cleaners got a grid five. We made it look good. Even a knuckle ring is everything Pachino ish. Yeah, but your dry cleaner. He's probably had to do some work with the sweat Oh, yeah, and some some was like just sorry. I tried my best We did everything we could Yeah, yeah, they're not yeah, sit you down and just be like, listen That that's just how I make it. Yeah, I run high. Yeah on the air three hours tie And the air isn't running, right? Uh-huh and

The lights. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah TV like I told I told tommy. I told boy. I tell everyone I've ever worked with You got to play with pain in tv I mean like we played 14 years of linebacker. What are you talking about? Oh, yeah, you'll see. Yeah, you know I asked one time with a broken foot and big cat got bit by a dog. Yeah, we still did a full show You got look There's only game day. Yeah, can you go? The lights are on We're going harder. Take it up. Yes. Yes. All those things. We're not taking you into the tent. Yeah

You're okay. Yeah, you're clear. Let's go. You got to go All right, so this has been incredible. We got to wrap I mean, we don't want to take, you know, your entire life here But we got it. We got to do your best nicknames. What are your best nicknames? What are the ones that you you know at the end of the day? It's like, oh that one because we have some of yours that we know I want to hear those but So we're going football. All right, whatever you want to do. Well, we'll do football last because I okay because that's kind of I mean So baseball a lot of them now will predate

Even so much you guys because I'm going to the ones that because the 80s I did 10 sport centers a week. We all did bob Lee did Tommy Meese did John Saunders says John's birthday and we lost him what five years ago six years ago Great, you know, we could go on and on all the all the guys we we did um 10 shows a week doesn't make us heroes but hey We're we're a network, but we have one fourth of the staff. So You okay to do the next show? Well, I did the list. Yeah, we got another one. Go ahead. So To baseball all the time. So the best I'll go right to that

Bert Blylovin because that's be home Blylovin. Yeah, because You don't have to see the a lot of these nicknames are you don't have to know a he's a pitcher P he pitches for the twins or the the pirates or whoever See he has a curveball You got him into the Hall of Fame You are a kid and you heard from your parents Be home by living and as a parent you've told your kid be home by living

You don't have to be a genius to figure these out, right? So That's probably the best. I mean the early ones baseball. Jose can you see crews? Julio, won't you let me take you on a seat cruise a lot of them were from rock and roll vaughn purple haze A couple that stuck and I just saw him last month Crime dog McGriff. Yeah. He that stuck with him Doggy like he's every player calls him dog. He loves he's such a good guy Certainly borderline Hall of Famer didn't touch a thing and he hit almost 500 home runs by the way, but um Chuck Knoblock's one of my new kids on Knoblock. Yeah

He liked it too. Even when he didn't make the throw correct. Yeah Oh now i'm spate um Roberto remember the alamar that history. Yeah, I love that one. Um, I mean Food There was a movie blaming or not food, but george taco bell. I mean like that with Toronto like food Everyone knows the taco bell is you don't have to know he plays for toronto That's the that's the best part of him and it's did I really hear that? And and even if I get a chuckle out of him. Yeah, even more. So what do you have baseball?

So one of my favorite baseball ones is miguel tahada Very good. See I'm gonna I don't forget these. Yeah, how did they come to how did they fall? I mean, it's we are right jimmy cliff Oh man, so I'm going too far back. I'm trying to think of we can go to football too. We football is a ton. Yeah, um So football the best ones Are those you can deliver under the highlights? You can sing with them We've resurrected lido shepherd this year with debo, you know, which is boss gags and debo

Whoa, it's the lido shuffle one of the great wind-up songs of all time They we used to do for lido shepherd defensive back philadelphia the gm of the the niners john lynch Text me like a month ago debo whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa like, you know, and I've known lynching since he played of course, but um so When steve bono would go back to pass and complete it you could go to do do do I got you, babe I'm a completion right? Yeah, um, you could go

So elvis gurback again, these are all but they're plenty right now. Um If elvis went back and was gonna be sacked Caught in a trap, you know I mean you I mean it okay Mark bulger remember him with the run. Well, that's the scarecrow Ray bulger, right? So he'd go back to that If I could only find a receiver, you know, uh, and then the kickers had a lot of them. Yeah, um

Including david green acres and at the vet they used to play the theme from the tv. So but this is old so now And the guy that should be a head coach is is eric sleeping with b enemy Yep, you know, he should be and and that was really court. It's my favorite martin Martian was a tv show Obscure Good for this audience. Do you remember? Steelers primarily fullback chris

Uh, mafala. Yes fuma to mafala. Yes We called him chris Fuma to bad mafala And tommy would chime in because that came out of shaft was with a You know, can you dig it can you dig it? Yeah, like Shut your mouth. We throw those into the we'll throw in like the tige going back with the I know that You're absolutely right best. No, I'm so now

See okay now I have yeah, we're missing a couple of my absolute fair. I don't know if he's in the super bowl Who's in the super bowl? So i'm going quick with your mix and match. It's okay. It's not great. It's okay I'm thinking it's bangles I can give you one for the bangles if you want please so joe burrow throws a pass to jamar chase Burrow and chase hide and seek It works Hide and seek or you could go

Um What do we do for joe for joe burrow? Do we do like january joe all systems joe? Yeah Which is what it is think about it. Yeah Two years ago. He won the national title and now he can win the super bowl. Yep two years ago He sat in the box with us at the at the super bowl Yeah, now he's playing it. He might win. It's crazy. It's not good for him But why am I I mean we have oh Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa

The chubu missile crisis. Yeah This year, um Oh, there's all go ahead. Well, I mean jake the loam. Huh jake the loam is one of my all-time favorites Daylight come and you got it the loam. Yeah, that's right That one's and then john kitna was my other favorite that you always do. Well, yeah, he Well, we're kid. Go ahead kidna kaboodle. Yeah I hadn't thought of him in a while. Yeah, I know But that's I love those look at a lot of them a lot of the kickers

um And I you I think it was uh with jeff feagles jeff philadelphia feagles Which is like so it's so easy But it's just so funny to say because he's playing for the giants and you're like jeff philadelphia feagles Some but when they work when they're from where they're from Like like rois clayton was a short step with the giants rois oroney clayton Was san francisco treat, you know, like but jeff not feagles jay fealy who tv now So I would do the who for that one a long ones

see me feely And you like to sing right? Yeah, you sung the anthem or something. Yeah, when we do our boxing. Yeah, that's a hard song It is I I can sing I was set to do it And the whalers naturally the last week of their final season here in 97 Down their leg the last two or three they were going to make the playoffs You know and lose to somebody in the opening round But they were going to get in and I had a deal with the general manager jim rutherford

Not the national anthem. I'm okay singing. I'm okay As hui luis told me as a golfer boomer. You're a 15 as a singer. You're a six, you know, so I was going to sing oh canada that you can get to that range is different in english and french But they didn't make it. Yeah, I did oh canada in providence when we did a rough We did a rough and rowdy our boxing our pay-per-view boxing how to go Everyone just started booing and I started laughing why because it was canadian's it was a canadian Our main event was a canadian versus american So I start singing it and everyone starts booing because everyone's revved up and drunk

And I just started laughing hysterically and I couldn't finish the whole thing. It was such a You can do it Go you guys probably don't even know it one of the best So the old gentleman they used to sing oh canada at the montreal forum Roger du set is gone. Have you ever seen this on video? You need to find it Okay, so they would wheel him out at the biggest games silver hair tuxedo Some of the great games when the gila flur was playing and before that but in the 70s you can find it like 35 seconds You wanted to charge to you know through customs that you you you just

Roger du set and and english and french it was man at the forum. Yeah bowtie Tux silver hair is like kate smith back in the day, you know singing God bless america for the flyers But it was better because it was montreal right no knock on kate or the flyers, but It's montreal. Yes. I mean this is it's hockey. Yeah, we've uh, we've seen you sing the second verse to take it easy before Uh standing on the corner Yep wins low arizona such a fine sight to see we do a recurring bid on our show I don't know if you've heard about this one, but um as an homage to you

We just assumed because we know that you're a big fan of classic rock We see the rod steward album come out every year in late september. You're good, man. You've done a hell of a yeah Well, I mean, I well, that's our life. That's our life. We're saying that we watch football and highlights I'm just about to turn. Yeah, what I've seen late september is Maggie may comes out on the studio update desk, which I always love for Yep week four. Yeah week three was don Hanley boys of summer. Yeah So the first the first year we started to do this uh, this homage to you actually I tried to put that in week three and big cat goes. It's too soon. Yeah

And he's gotta you gotta wait and he's right seasons later. Yeah, you may week three may be good now Because we start late. Yeah, that's true. We might be okay feel to it It's like it's right before the clocks and everything and it's like, oh, yeah, it's not it's late It's gonna be late September. Yeah, you gotta really feel the final september weekend. Yeah, you first sweatshirt day It's like, oh, okay. It's football. No, no And it's funny because I realized when I brought to bring this album out that a lot of people a little younger than you Don't even know what it is. Yeah, what is this? Well, I have 400 of them Mm-hmm. Is it the same album that you bring out every time? Yes, it's always

Every picture tells a story around story. I mean, but is it that he may is on that out? Yeah, it's the same physical album that you've had. Absolutely. I love that. I mean it's awesome Yeah, I had a college. I played the wax off it. You know, we're college Maggie May. Yeah God the intro to that song that'll wake you up. It's a great. That's a feel-good song. It's a great. It's a great now the Eagles um So we glenn fry was it because the lay he passed, you know, a great friend of mine And we did two Super Bowl swamis. He joined me for one of them the one in san diego when the um Broncos broke that long winning streak of the NFC like 12 or 13 or 11 in a row whatever it was and they'd be the Packers

and but we did it in front of the hotel Coronado San Diego, which is famous and we did it at the hotel california and he's dressed as a bellman who comes out, you know, like I've started, you know, I quote every line of the song like, you know, my mind is Tiffany twisted I can't pick the lay, you know the winner or whatever Of course, what do you he comes out singing welcome to the hook Glenn fry. What are you doing here? he goes

I live here. What are you doing here? You know, and then we went on and on and on and Yeah, no singing is okay. Yeah. No, it's good. I've heard you sing that second verse before we do We do the stand on the corner as a tribute to james winston Every week we say james winston down in nola is what we did this year He used to be james winston tampa florida and then he got traded. So hopefully he's well, who knows Yeah, I know it might be song is a song though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. You still get a chance to sing Yes, take it easy. Yes the song to put the eagles on the map. Yeah, it's it's wonderful And you got you got decent voice. We heard you sing on stage. I don't know if it was it might not have been with the eagles

It was maybe with a a cover band. You probably didn't even know that you're being taped But some sicko out there was videotaping you singing it and they sent it to us because Hawaii right before yeah, probably in hawaii, but I we sent when glenn passed away Huey and his the news when they could tour a few years ago Came through here about Connecticut about two months later and I said hui He's a friend of both of ours Can you guys work up take it easy because he Huey always will call me up and I'd sing a song. He's nice enough to let me do it walk it on a thin line that it's not

Taking it from It's an add-on nobody wants to hear me sing the power of love or you know or anything like that, you know Hard to rock and roll, but we would So I sang one is with Huey Lewis in the news you can find that on youtube It's somebody shot on their phone. It wasn't any professionally they worked it up and I forgot about it He called me that afternoon. You're gonna come over for uh, you know, we're gonna work up take it easy You you you didn't forget Yeah, we practiced once

You know it's always he calls me for an encore so that at least you've had a few beers by then and Not too many but a few yeah, and then I'm okay, but one and out what's your nobody needs to See me throw 50 passes again. Nobody needs to do that. What's your all-time favorite band? Well, well, I mean that's that's that's a tough one. Yeah, um This job has allowed me to be friends with Somebody like Glenn Fry Bob Seeger is a very good friend because they're sports fans, you know like they So that would be Bob Seeger, you know silver bullet would be way up there

But if you're asking me a rock and roll question I'd have to give it to the stones I just think I would because they're still doing it or they were yeah, and they The songs from the 60s They still could come out today. Yeah, they're you know under my thumb, you know dead flowers one of my favorite songs ever The ones from the 60s let alone 70s 80. So if you're asking me a rock and roll honest question Would have to be the stones. I don't do. I know that I met Mick, you know a few minutes, but But Bob Seeger and Yuri Lewis and there's the other Steven stills like they it's really cool that

And what you guys are finding. Yes, you have your hardcore audience that it's proportional But you meet people from all over America, Canada, etc White black old young Who like hey, we're football fans. Yeah, for example and sports has allowed Me and us to we love me to meet you guys Football frankly you like football. We like you like football. I like football. No, we like football. I like football I like football. Let's let's let's have a let's have a meal It's a perfect ending you want to talk football some spread

From a commercial How we long every time I see me says some God you gotta tell you what if I ever need to be refreshed I'm 66 now. You said don't ask me what I have for breakfast I could tell you what happened in the catch 40 years ago, but don't ask me if I had an egg or a cereal today for breakfast, you know But if I forget some details of my career, yeah, we got you. Yeah, we got we're This is but look I appreciate that more than anything you guys are not forget me fans of football and you have

I don't want to equate cable in 79 and 80 to the podcast business, but Your first one was what? 2016 yeah with podcasts like maybe that was the first year ish them podcast started in about like 2010 2011 is when no one knew what they were no one really really did too many of them We had a few guys a kfc at our barstools started back in what 2012. Yeah, I was on that one. Yeah, so um, but we started in 2016 and Uh, it was we we were at the right place at the right time. So we caught that wave We had a little bit of help from espn who sent us a cease and desist letter after our first episode

These things happen, but then we just I thought it didn't get lost in the mail No, well, we ended up using that to cease and desist Them back saying you need to cease and desist cease and desisting us And then that obviously like it got more eyeballs on our podcast So indirectly I guess they call that the stricent effect. Yeah, but uh, but things things were you know, very fortunate for us at that time Well, right place at right time. See so I was thinking about it No one I was coming on like a month ago and then we had this is great. Um That I don't want to equate podcasts with cable tv

But in some ways it is like you don't you didn't know You thought you guys had a good show. That's your job with your crew. Let's put a good show together Right every week and do we hit a home run every week every two days not necessarily but It was every painting or Rembrandt very summer finger paintings, right? Not really good, but bring the energy bring the knowledge and and and and My point is You guys took something that may not have taken off And I respect that because that's kind of what I and we lived 40 years ago

Yeah, so I think it's really pretty cool Rembrandt said is like if we can make each other laugh And have fun doing the show then to us that feels like a good show And hopefully other people out there will kind of find the same things that we find funny to be funny for them I agree. Now the only thing I did bring and I'm surprised you're not going with it. I mean, this is I'm supposed to at least I'm not gonna I gotta say I took to I took the shades off for you. I don't have respect that he didn't have the shades

Yeah, very much. There you go. And I and I knew that I just wanted I wanted to look you in the eye during this During this episode. No, I I first of all Hawaiian shirts shades. I got it. Yeah, I'm worried All right, this is a good look But but I I did I meant to start with it then we went to the wallet Everything went downhill from there on So this has been a great you guys are totally respectful and I I And I appreciate how hard you work Not this show, but I mean this particular but I mean how hard you're working putting it together like you

And your listeners and your viewers Respect it But now they expect it. Yeah. Yeah, respect it to yourself. I don't come easy I got one last last question for you. Um, just kind of looking towards the future What's what's next for boom? Where do you see the next like five ten year? Are you gonna are you gonna be happy if you retire? Getting getting off tv. Are you gonna feel that itch? Do you want to be in front of the camera? Which is why I full time ended it at the end of 16, but we

The next two years I was around, you know, because kind of You know, I'm not George Washington. Maybe I'm Abe Lincoln more like teddy Roosevelt. That seems more likely I think you could get shot during a show and still finish it. Well I'm well Yeah, he yeah, hopefully we'll never find out. Yeah, I would try to your point, but um But then this reinvention of prime time On plus I know it's plus and I'm not knocking plus, but we don't have the rights to do it anywhere else I sold that I sold that

I talked to our president Jeremy Patero. Do you think we could get rights to this because I want to do that So where I'm at now I got I got one year left of it, but that'll be 68. I certainly see me doing it to 70 if they'll have me um And then we'll see. I mean I but but yeah, there would be There would be an itch prime time has has scratched it the itch because I've It gives me excuse. I could call my friends in the league anytime. You know coaches and so much players some but You're doing the show

There's a reason and they know you're doing it and you're on it half and then the SPN put the halftime highlights back on a year ago Which I taped Sunday night, which is why the Sunday night games not in there But I mean not even the swami can predict what's going to happen on you know Sunday night, but um That's I'm in a good place like that because 42 years not let alone. I'm so tired You know tell that to somebody to call mine, right? I don't think so. So But that's a good question and I thought I was kind of

done But this has been reinvigorating By able to the prime time and the halftime and the dip but then during the week if I want to go do something I'm good. Yeah, you know, uh so You'll have me to kick around for a few more years if they'll have me after one more. We'll see I love it I love it. All right. They could send me that letter and I don't I doubt that. Yeah, no way So you never know we write if they send you that letter. We will storm. We'll treat

Bristol like it's like it's the capital on january 6th I'll line up outside and tear the damn gates down if they get it solved before it comes. Yes. Okay. Thank you You guys have been as loyal as I mean my goodness, you know, I need you in my back field Yeah, we got you the full back. Yeah, we got you. We got you, but it's been uh, pleasure has been all ours So thank you so much chris burman Boomer the schwaam absolute legend. We appreciate it the grand chat The raconteur merci

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And then you guys kept going and then here's the pft. The pft has one question like that I was like you definitely wrote that down for that. Well, here's the question. Here's the thing. It was it was because Uh, he's old school like so his guy his handler who had been in contact with like constant contact With was like hey boomer wants to like shoot the shit for a little bit before you guys start like yeah We're cool with that. So I knew that we needed to do a little bit of that my ears like perked up Yeah, I know when you gave the look I was like, oh no We got to get in there We got to start because we definitely were like starting to get into like conversation

I think we're talking about like him. Hey hang out with like the 80s niners or something. We're like, all right. Let's go Let's go. Uh, it was it was a dream come true There was one point where we were expecting him to start coming down the hallway and big cat and I heard him before We saw oh, yeah, and it definitely reminded me of when we met coach over the first time And we heard him down a hallway and then got to walk out and see him You heard boomer coming down the hall everybody just like our ears perked up and we're like, oh my god He's actually here and like dude is is a lot of fun to talk to we probably could have gone for four hours with him Yeah, he um

There I like there's probably about three or four times this weekend where I just like had a little smile come over my face Just replaying in my head him doing that son of whoop and whoop with very sanders saying that's how he created it It was like the funniest like two second clip where it's like something about his whoop It's effortless. That's the thing. It can't it can't be like we replicated, but it's not no It's a total cheap knockoff like his whoop is just it's perfect It's it's it's almost like if you saw like like a great like diamond jeweler can see like a true diamond That's his whoop and then you see ours. You're like, okay. This is a frugazi right away. Yeah, throw it out It's a fucking fake. We're a smashmouth covering under pressure by point and david bowie at that point

No disrespect to smash and a wolf and a wolf and it was uh, man It was an all-time moment. There were so many times where I was just sitting watching him and I was smiling His presence made me so happy and then we should actually give a shout out to evan langoria Because boomer was telling us the story after the interview was over and he goes, you know in 2019 I know that you guys have been reaching out to me and I had I'd put it off a couple times But then evan langoria came up to me in san francisco and before a game in boston in boston Excuse me because it was they were playing. Yeah, remember he had his he was like they're at femway So went up for all three games and his big boomer voice. Yeah. Yeah, so so

Evan langoria took out his phone. It was on a tuesday and he played boomer Our uh, our monday morning in a fell recap the fastest two minutes And he sat he listened to it and he was like, I like these guys. I want to meet these guys That's when he decided that he was eventually going to do the show that like it was still two and a half years later Like because I that makes me feel so warm inside though to know like boomer Heard us. Yeah and boomer liked us and it was a slow. Yeah, it was a slow process Because I remember I would just text like every like three months being like hey And he thought any word about boomer any word about boomers like well, he knows he likes you guys

But he's like it was a slow. He's old school. He's old school in every sense of the word But I actually am happy that we didn't interview him three years ago or whatever it was because it was perfect It was like the perfect time super bowl week. Everything was perfect. Yeah, so Shout out chris burman and like speaking of old school. We had he His guy rented a conference room and had a a full spread like we had a full lunch spread I was like, this is not necessary. He's like, no, no, we got to get a full spread. It's like, okay, fine Let's get a full spread And they they guys fine sparkling water diet coax

It was actually diet pepsi, but his guy was like we need diet coax This guy's like boomer likes his diet coax understandable I get it. And so then somebody came down from the front desk with these two one liter bottles diet coat Everything was perfect. But wait, he was actually like a very very down to earth. Yes, cool guy Obviously everything that he says has the weight and gravitas behind it of chris burman is saying this thing And there's something about his presence that's just like well this guy like I'm picking up with this guy putting down. Yes. Um, all right. Let's do numbers Great show, uh, julie. Here we go numbers

44 I do an eight six six You just stole my number that I've been doing the soup bowl Yeah, you get it 22. All right, what do you got bubba? What do you got pft? I can't keep track of not i'm not doing the eight I'm changing i was only doing 56 this week or last changing it to 71 71 72 So close road runners mate for life. Love you guys King away

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