Pardon My Take - Chris Hogan, Leonard Fournette aka Lombardi Lenny and Carson Wentz Traded

Episode Date: February 19, 2021

Carson Wentz has finally been traded and we talk winners and losers (2:10 - 8:57). Big Ben is still a Steeler, sort of (8:57 - 10:30). Fernando Tatis Jr mega contract and talking tennis (10:30 - 26:06). Our friend Lombardi Lenny joins the show to talk about winning the Super Bowl, Tom Brady pumping him up and taking everyone out to dinner (26:06 - 39:14) NFL WR and now PLL Draftee Chris Hogan joins the show to talk about entering the Lacrosse Draft, Belichick, Super Bowls, and more (39:14 - 64:10). Fyre Fest of the week included a who farted mysteryYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we've got a Friday twofer, Lombardi Lenny, Leonard Fournette, off his Super Bowl championship. He's family now. Great to talk to him. And then we have Chris Hogan, new PLL draftee.

He's entered the PLL draft. We talk about football with him. We talk about his lacrosse career. We also have Carson Wentz got traded. Finally, Firefest the Week, Fernando Tates got paid a shitload of money for a billion years. Let's do it all. And before we get to that, Verizon 5G.

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Welcome to part of my take as it's by Verizon 5G, and today is Friday, February 19th. And finally, Carson Wentz has been traded to the place we all thought he would end up, the Indianapolis Colts. It is official, it is done, we can move on, the biggest losers being the Philadelphia Eagles, I would say. Yeah, I guess in a way it's a loss, in a way it's a win though because they don't have to keep talking about it. I would say it's a big loss.

Done, he's gone. Well, it's only a loss if you frame it in the context of the Eagles were saying we're going to get two first round picks for him. I would frame it in the context of the Eagles traded for him to draft him. Overall, yes. Then they gave him a ton of money, then they had got, it will maybe end up being a first round pick if he stays healthy. Then they also gave him a ton of money and $33 million against the cap and their franchise

quarterback that they thought they had traded for and everything was hunky dory is now gone. I'd say that would be a loss. Yes, when you look at it from a macro perspective, from a micro perspective, did they get enough for him? They probably, I would say that the Colts got the better end of this deal, but the Eagles got rid of it. They're ready to move on. Probably draft another quarterback.

They will probably draft another quarterback this year. I think he's probably going to be a decent fit in Indianapolis. This always made sense to me. I always thought he was going to go to Indianapolis. The reclamation of Carson Wentz, like the Frank Wright was where he had his success earlier in his career and last year was very bad. I do think that he can, I'm not throwing them out. I'm not saying that he can't find old Carson Wentz and the best place for him to do that

is the Indianapolis Colts. So I wouldn't be shocked if they do okay with him. It wouldn't be, I'm not, I was never in the camp of Carson Wentz's trash. He can't like figure it out. I was in the camp of if the Bears trade formed, their coaching staff can't figure him out and Frank Wright makes sense for him to go to the Colts. Yeah. I'd say that the losers of this trade would be the Raiders.

The Raiders lost this trade because the Colts tried to get Derek Carr first and the Raiders were like, no, we're not going to part with Derek Carr. That's a loss for the Raiders right there. The Bears, I would say, won the trade by not doing it. Correct. And Carson Wentz won the trade. This is actually like a huge win for Carson Wentz because the last couple years, he has been like, he's just reminded me of a dog that needs a forever home.

He's just looked sad. He's looked very upset in Philadelphia. Like he obviously did not have the confidence of the franchise, didn't have the confidence of the fans. He gets to go to a new place, a place that will probably have less scrutiny on him from the fans. I think that's fair to say. How about Dan Dockich?

Dan Dockich is there breathing down his neck. Jim Ursay is going to be very, very supportive of him. I would love for Andrew Luck to come back tomorrow. That would be the funniest story. It would be very funny. I also know what I'm ready to be back. Another kind of under discussed part of this trade and just the Eagles franchise in general is how perfect it is that their GM is named Howie, which is the perfect name for Philadelphia

fans to get mad at. It just sounds awesome when they're like, fucking Howie. Howie screwed everything up. The Eagles fans are mad and they do have a right to be mad because there's this weird thing that happens in sports and if you win a championship and then you're expected to say, oh, well, it's all good and there is something that is involved in that. Like, you know, if you win a championship, there are gravy, you know, grace periods, but the Eagles winning Super Bowl three years ago.

And you thought, oh my God, this roster is set like they have their franchise quarterback Carson Wentz, even though wasn't part of the playoff run, did win a lot of games that year was an MVP dark horse. And now you're looking three years later and you don't have your franchise quarterback. Your roster is pretty barren. Our colleague Smitty said that I think that the Eagles, the only team in the last seven years to not have drafted a pro bowler, which is kind of a crazy stat. So they, Eagles fans have a right to be mad and they're mad usually anyway.

But I do think that saying, oh, well, they just won a Super Bowl three years ago. They don't have a right to be mad. You kind of, you kind of fucked this up. Like it should have been, they should have been. They should have been competitive. For a while. They were set. They had all the pieces in place to be good for a long time.

So yeah, I listen, I'm never going to tell Eagles fans not to get mad. You might as well tell the sun not to shine because that's not ever going to happen. They're going to be mad no matter what. But you're right. They do have, they've got a reason to be pissed off in this situation. It's it was just never going to work with Carson Wentz after the last couple of years. It was just very, very obvious. That he was not going to be able to stick around there.

What's also going to be funny is the Eagles, if they don't draft a quarterback in the first round, they're probably going to take a wide receipt. They're probably going to take like Jamar Chase and Carson Wentz is going to be like, what the fuck? Like I leave when I was there, we get like the best guy that we got was Artega Whiteside. And then I leave. Well, they drafted a wide receiver last year. Jalen Rager. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, they've got Sean Jeffrey. I just think Carson Wentz is he lost all his confidence. And he became just a terrible, terrible quarterback. I don't, I mean, yeah, I don't, I don't really blame it's weird because it wasn't like the Eagles. The Eagles did try to put, they got a lot of injuries in their wide receiver court. They did try to put some talent around him and he also just became a shell of himself, essentially overnight this year. I do want to take my hat off to the ESPN social media team for having the Photoshop's ready to go.

Like with the trade announcement, they already had the Carson Wentz in the blue with the blue arm sleeve. Yeah. The blue arm sleeve looks weird. It was cool when it was like he had the camouflage arm sleeve on when he was in Philly and that worked because it was already green. Like it was similar to the Eagles colors. The blue arm sleeve looks very strange to me. It looks like a Smurf. Yeah.

Ginger Smurf. Yeah. He it's I mean, I guess it also like I really did just think this was the only way that the only place he was going to end up. So it makes sense. I do think the Colts are going to be they have everything kind of set up to if Carson Wentz is like, I don't know, 90% of what he was at his peak, maybe even 80%. They should be in a good shape. Yeah.

It's also funny that they both franchises kind of did a wife swap with offensive coordinators and head coaches in the last couple years. So Siriani comes to the Eagles and then immediately sends Carson Wentz back to Reich, who was the offensive coordinator for Carson Wentz and Philadelphia. Yes. Two franchises are inextricably linked. Yes. And then we also had the Big Ben news where kind of ominous saying the Big Ben is on the roster and a stealer today. Doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like they want Big Ben around next year. Well, they didn't say Big Ben is our guy.

They said that's a conversation we're going to have to have later. Yes. So Big Ben, he's just going to keep showing up until you tell him he's probably just going to keep showing up even if they cut him. Big Ben, if he gets released, I don't know what the, I'm not a capologist. They're screwed. Like we said on Wednesday when we were talking about the, you know, a potential trade for a backup quarterback, they don't have any money. Yeah. Like there's, there's, if Big Ben stays, it's $40 million.

If he leaves, it's $20 million. Like they don't, and they already don't have money anyway to sign anyone. So they're screwed no matter what. So what if they cut him though? If they just cut Big Ben 20, 22 million, I think, or $20 million. That's what they might end up doing is just releasing him and eating that money. And Big Ben will probably be like, you don't have to pay me. I'm just going to keep showing up to work.

Well, he could just take a pay cut and you could, I think, essentially pay him less. And he like you, I was reading about it today. They would like push it off and so they would take the $20 million cap hit and use Big Ben this year and then hope that he's like decent. And instead of just cutting him and letting him walk away. We're going to get a lot of very tearful Big Ben quotes though. Like if they decide to move on from Big Ben, he's going to give at least three press conferences. He's going to cry. It's going to be sad.

Big Ben doesn't take no lightly. No, that's what we know about that. Absolutely a fact. Any other news for Nando Tati signed for $14 million for 14 years for $340 million? I still don't. I feel like I'm doing a bad Jerry Seinfeld bit, but like why 14? Why 14 years? I guess maybe, oh, actually, you know what?

I think it actually, I read that it was four years were remaining and then 10 years on top of it, but 14 feels like a random number. Yeah. How did they bargain? Is that it? No, that was funny tidbit on 14 years, meaning something. When his contract ends, the Mets will still have one year on Bobby Benio's contract. I like it, Jake. That's perfect.

I'm so glad that you beat he who shall not be named to that fun stat. Who thinks Naomi Osaka is boring? Yeah. Is she? No. Not at all. Jake? We're Osaka.

No, I'm a big fan of Osaka. She beat Serena, well deserved, but a big fan. She's getting a rapper. How can you be boring? Well, she plays boring sport. No, you threw me a retweet. I feel like that was just a fake retweet, too. No, it was a fake retweet.

Petty retweets. For what? How can you tell when a retweet is a fake retweet? What are you talking about, Hank? Previous tweets. All right, I'll remember that. You hated tennis. You asked me to retweet.

I was joking. And then I tweeted something about, like, yeah, Osaka serve is sick. And then big guy retweeted. Well, you were very excited about the match. Yeah, it was a great match. I said I didn't give a fuck. People were like, how can you not be talking about it? Like, I do not care.

And I'm excited for your excitement. Yeah, I appreciate you gave me a lot of impressions. And now I'm wondering what the fuck is up with Hank. Hank. Petty retweets. I don't even know what I petty retweeted. That's a callback joke. So when?

To Nate. Oh, did Nate say that about me? Yeah, you give out, you give out petty retweets. No, petty retweets. Petty reach. All right. That's OK, Hank. Totally different words.

I knew it was a P word. Totally different meanings. Yes, Nate said that I read when I retweeted Nate trying to like help like boost him up. He said it was a pity reach. That's what I was like. How does that make sense? That's what I'm actually trying to be a nice guy here. And he's called it.

Yeah, but what? Petty and pity are totally different meanings. That's not bad. Back to the comment about her being born. That's why I was confused. It's like, dude, what? I'm as casual of a tennis fan as you could ever run across. You might not know it because on the show we get pretty in depth with things.

Sometimes we have a great research staff, but like we don't really follow tennis. She stands out as being like actually a pretty exciting person. What? But Hank, what rapper does she date? Because you can be dated. You can't be boring if you date a rapper. YBN Corday. Oh, that was made up. Now tell us the real.

I was going to say if it's Macklemore. Yeah, that's pretty real. Let me read it word for word so he doesn't. Well, actually, he said she's on the bottom rung when it comes to emotion and personality. So I guess that's tough. Is that true? No, people love her interviews.

They go viral. It's a compliment, though, coming from him being like, I don't think she has a good personality. I think the person who said that is probably like a little sexist. Yeah, and just doesn't. I don't know how you can see her and think she's boring. I I'm not a tennis fan either. And I know her because you're dating a rapper,

which means I know her outside of the tennis world, which means she's not boring. Yeah, right? If Hank is aware of her, then she's not boring. Yeah, probably. Yeah, sure, not boring. All right, but but it's still a boring. Yes, but Fernando Tattis.

Yes, a boring. Good for him. He's getting what, three hundred forty million dollars. I'm going to know yes off with Jake right now. Three hundred forty million dollars. No, yes, no to live in San Diego. I'm not him and Machado. Yeah, it's what it's him.

Machado, Mike Trout also in Southern California and then Mookie Betts, I think are like the four highest paid players in baseball, all living in Southern California for the next like 12 years, their life is set. That's the dream is playing in San Diego for the Padres and getting paid a shitload of money to do it where nobody will ever hold you accountable because you're on the Padres.

Yes. And Jake, let me go back to you. How many years until Fernando Tattis, Jr. is a Yankee? I mean, because that is now back. I love that. Whenever someone signs like a 14 million 14 year deal, they're like, well, he'll be a Yankee in six years. Well, I mean, the Padres, they obviously were an electric team

in the shortened season last year. So yeah, slam Diego. So if they don't win a title and what the first four or five. Denny's a Yankee. You know what, you know what? You know how we're saying that nobody pays attention to San Diego. So, you know, they get they get a pass when it comes to national media.

We should we should hold ourselves to be the ones that are putting San Diego in the accountability spotlight. Yeah, like if San Diego does not produce their frauds. Yeah, the only one's getting pissed off about that. Lovely. The problem is we'd have to stay up for the game. So I'm not going to do that. Well, yeah, we're not. We don't have to actually watch this.

We could. No. Move to San Diego. San Diego. Yeah. We could. OK. We should move there. All right. The deal is still out there. What we can move to the West Coast.

You you cannot go into a body of water. I'm down. I don't care. Go into a pool or an ocean. What about the shower? No, what? Nothing. That's the deal. No, no hot tub. You can't be made that deal. No, we be fucking ourselves on that one.

Having to live with Stank Lockwood just smelling up the studio the whole time. Put a big wall up. You can't go into a single pool for how long for the entirety that we're out there. What about that? That was the deal we made, wasn't it? Let's just let's just go out there for the Super Bowl for like six months next year.

What about this? What if we move to San Diego? I've already been once. I've been thinking about a lot about the Super Bowl. You're allowed to go swimming. You're allowed to go swimming indoors. I'm planning. You can bathe.

You're just not allowed to go outside. I'm down. With that deal was made two years ago. I'm down that we could we could move there and you just can't go into any water. I just think because we the minute we move there, Vacation Lockwood comes out. And vacation Lockwood is something that exists inside me

at all times. He lives. He would live out there. He'd be in a fucking. No, because I could I could I could go. I could go for a run in the morning to the beach. I wouldn't have to go running now rips to go to the beach. Like right now I have to right now I have to plan. I have to take time off to go to the beach.

If I could go to the beach after work, I wouldn't miss work. When we say we have to stay late and do this or we have to do that. And you're like, I'm there. It's it's. I'll go surfing in the morning. No no clouds in the sky and we're three hours behind the real world. No, at the same time.

No, no, you wouldn't know you had this discussion. It is not Hank saying you don't know how to become like an ultra marathoner. Yeah, everything would change a pro kite surfer. You'd have to get up at five a.m. every morning. That's fun. You know, I'm five a.m. I think they would do 1030 was this morning.

They would take looking for an answer. One listen to Hank's yawns in California and throw him out of the state. Yeah. All right. The deal is out there. All right. So think about it. I will. No pools. No hot dogs. Bill, you you're looking at me right now. You can't you can't be trusted in nice weather. What?

We can't move this on. Moving this entire operation to nice weather. Billy, you you have to put on the headphones every time you record. You have to. You have to. Every time. Every time. It's like I didn't mean to get you yelled at there, Billy. I want on the record. I did not mean to get you yelled at.

I didn't want you to yell that. Are you OK? Billy's got some anger in his chest. I didn't say anything. I went to move to the microphone. He did. I know. But I'm saying like we that for now on every time headphones, just so when you do talk, you can hear yourself and hear if you're talking.

I didn't mean to get you yelled at. I'm sorry. Son. Dude, Billy versus Hank, you know, would be so what if we what if we just said Hank and Billy out to like scout out San Diego and they had to build the studio just themselves out there? I would love to see that. Imagine Billy in super nice weather

trying to tame that fucking wild horse. I do great in nice weather. It's good for my joints. You sunscreen, Billy. Oh, my God. All right. Anything else? What? Anything else cooking? That's about it.

I did see we're getting into NFL draft season where teams are just very obviously like throwing out bullshit smoke screens. I saw one anonymous scout was comparing Zach Wilson from BYU to Patrick Mahomes. Well, he's got him ranked higher than Trevor Lawrence because of the because of baseball background, I think. Yeah, I think Zach Wilson does. Oh, Billy. I actually totally agree.

I've been watched because I like actually started watching everything like way more BYU. Was it you? Were you the anonymous scout? No. No, but it's just the way the way the way he uses his base in separation to his upper body when he throws.

It's very Mahomes ask and very baseball. OK, we can just agree that it was a scout for the Jets, though, right? Being like, yo, actually, Trevor Lawrence sucks. Jacksonville probably shouldn't take him. I would take this thirty one year old from BYU instead. Yeah. Oh, how old is that? Wilson. It's a good question.

All right, let's find that out. Twenty one. OK, so he's good. My mistake. He's good to go. Well, I I agree with you. I thought right now. I wasn't disagreeing with you. Oh, other huge news.

The end of an era. What? Tim Tebow retired last night. Oh, yeah, turns out that didn't work out. Didn't work out. I was holding out. Did you have a prediction that he was going to be in? No, no. My prediction was that the Mets should bring him up

because they weren't selling any tickets and they should have brought him up several times to the big leagues because Tim Tebow puts asses in seats. That's just a fact. People would go out and watch Tim Tebow strike out three times before they would go out and watch the Mets win, you know, 30 percent of their games at home. So I think that they definitely should have brought him out.

Skip Bayless. It's a tough day for him. They had a debate on today, saying, like, was he a better baseball player or a football player? I mean, one of the highs. Yeah. Well, he might be the most overrated player in the history of two professional sports. I would say he's underrated in football. Now he's got he's got he's got removed that is underrated.

Yeah, I would say he's underrated because we all clown on him. And, you know, he wasn't great in the pros. But in terms of, I mean, one of the best college football players ever, I think. Yeah. So I'd say like top three college football player. I'd have to look through like all of it. But he is he's a legend in college football. It's tough to be like he was terrible at football.

Well, it just wasn't good at throwing a football, which he had to do in the pros. So you would agree, though, that he was a better professional football player than professional baseball player? You want to play a game? He did beat the Steelers. I mean, that's what we always say. You just always say you want to play the opposite of Dion Sanders.

That's how he'll be remembered. He won a playoff blow Jackson blow Jackson. Blow Jackson. OK. Well, well, Jackson, W.O.E. Keep working on it. OK. Bro Jackson. Bro Jackson. Yeah. OK. Just stick with Bro Jackson. OK. I like Bro Jackson.

Bro Jackson. Chode Jackson. Although he's not really a bro. He's kind of chodey. He was not really a bro. Yeah. You know what? I mean, the most iconic moment of Tebow's career was probably just when he ran through the rain without a shirt on.

I was going to say crying on the sideline against Alabama. That too. Yeah. That one is definitely. Remember Tebowing. Yeah. That was a thing for a week. That was a lot of fun. Press conference. Which one? The speech.

Yeah. The speech. This is through my Bar Mitzvah. Well, OK. Tell that story. Because they have my Bar Mitzvah and they lost to Ole Miss. But the speech was incredible. I mean, yeah, but they lost.

Right. But they need up coming back. Winning championship. Yeah. Team work harder than them. The start of the championship DVD is your Bar Mitzvah. Yep. There we go. Perfect. Sounds like great Bar Mitzvah.

Yeah, that's that. I think you're looking at it the wrong way, Jake. They lost, though. Yeah, I understand. But that was the start. Well, looking back. Yeah, right. But in the moment, they just remember Jake becoming a man.

Yeah. And Tebow's promising that they were not going to lose again. And then it happened. I hope he goes back to the NFL. I hope he tries again. I hope he just keeps cycling. I don't think he can. How great would that be, though,

if he just showed up for a training camp? I don't think that's on the table. We'll give him a shot. I mean, I agree with you. I hope he also goes back to the NFL. Yes. I don't think there's... It's probably not going to happen.

It's not on the table. How is Skip going to deal with this, though? I mean, the bargaining stage hasn't even... He's not even that far through the process of grief right now. Like, he's got to have to, at some point, Skip Bayless has to figure out a way to be like, I was right about Tim Tebow, even though he's been wrong about Tim Tebow

consistently every day of his life for the last, what, 10 years. I don't know how Skip's going to make it through this. I mean, he's juggling that and LeBron right now. So it's not easy for Skip. Yeah, he's the only person who thinks that Tim Tebow is good and LeBron James sucks. Yes. Tough place to be in.

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which by the way, so we get an email before we have guests on and it says promoting what they're promoting and for your email, it says promoting Super Bowl champs. So that's pretty damn cool. Yeah, most definitely. I'm happy to be a champ, finally. Yeah, so let's talk about it. How does it feel?

I mean, it's obviously set in, I would assume. It's been a week and a half, but has it just been the best week and a half of your life right now? Yeah, it has, man. Like after the game, I couldn't believe it. I was still in shock, you know? Especially like from where I come from, you know what I mean?

And how my season turned out to be and to have the finish that I had, man, unbelievable to share that moment with my parents, my kids, my family. And it was no other feeling like it in the world. Yeah, I mean, you scored a touchdown. I bet on you to score a touchdown to Super Bowl. You officially became Lombardi Lenny, right?

How much you want? Don't worry about it, it was minimal, not that much. After taxes, it's basically nothing. But did that hit different in the moment? Was there like, did it slow down when we got to the end zone? Were you able to soak it all in? Or was everything in that game at like that next level speed? I was.

To score on, I think, one of the all-time stages of football and in front of millions of people that was watching the game. And just knowing that was at stake, you know, a lot of great players was on that field. You know, Pat, Ron, Brady. And just for me to be a part of that team and also to have a part in us winning the Super Bowl, I felt wonderful, man.

I'm not gonna lie, it was great. I loved watching the mic'd up. I think it's whatever, showtime, after the fact, you know, the Super Bowl mic'd up, everyone's mic'd up. I noticed that your team, they love, they love playoff Lenny. Like everyone was really rooting for you. Do you, did you feel that? Because you can tell like certain teammates

just resonate different with their teammates. And I feel like that was you for this team. Yeah, I think, I don't think it's not just that, but my personality, you know what I mean? I'm probably one of the young guys on the team and who keeps football fun, you know what I mean? I'm me 100% throughout whatever it is. You know, I love joking, I love playing around.

That's just who I am. And I think it kind of brings a spark towards the team too. Guys like me and Shady, who have that attitude or you can say that personality of the offense. So I think guys look forward to guys like myself and other guys who have those great personalities to bring that kind of spark to the offense. So going into the game, it was coach Arian's first Super Bowl.

I'm sure he was pumped up. I'm sure he was very excited for it. He's probably a little bit nervous. Who was in charge of, you know, the pre-game speech, you know, you've put in the work during the week, you've got everything prepared, you're all set, but you need that one like last kick in the ass to send you out on that field.

Was he the one that gave it? And if it was, what did he say to you? What was his message? He gave a speech, but it wasn't the speech we needed. I'm not gonna say that, he gave a speech, but the following speech, like coach Bruce always gave a speech, but the speech we needed to hear was from Tom Brady,

you know, and his speech was about honor. You know what I mean? And I got kids in between the team, but it was a powerful ass message that I think we all needed to hear. And I think it's how he delivered it. You know what I mean? You have Tom Brady talking to you,

how he delivered it to the team. It just woke us up. It gave us a spark that we needed, you know, before the game. You know, a lot of guys have a motivation that they might have planned for the money, you know, their family. Some people just cause they love it. But when Tom said we planned for honor

and for the last name on our back, I think that kind of hit different for us, you know what I mean? Because we all planned for our last names and we all trying to be remembered. And he put that, I think, in a perfect scenario for us to go out there and work our asses off. What about the text message you got the week leading up? Him just, Tom Brady, it came out that he was texting

basically the entire team saying, we're going to win. When you get that text message, I'd imagine that helps the confidence and helps you feel like, hey, we're actually going to do something here. A guy texting you with six super roles saying, we're going to win. Yeah. So just going to work, you know,

it'd be 5.30 in a month and before, I guess he's the first person up. You know, he leads by example. That's who he is. And he was just telling us, we will win this game. You know, our hard work was going on throughout the week. You know, he made sure that, you know, it's like we all did.

And it just shows you a different side of him. You know what I mean? Like, you don't get that too much. You know what I mean? Like, to witness greatness up close like that. It was crazy moments. Like, sometimes I've been in a backfield and I look to the side, it's probably doing a play.

I was like, damn, I'm really playing with fucking Tom Brady. Like, this is crazy, you know what I mean? So it's just, it's things like that, that I think this season taught me a lot. It was a harmony season for me too. But also, just to recognize greatness, you know? Understand, this is a fast game, it goes by fast. You know, you're at 30s old, you're an old man in this game.

You know what I mean? You have a further life to live outside of football. But just seeing guys like him and how he approaches the game and how much he loves it, you really see why he has seven rings, you know? And why he's argued probably the best football player to ever play this game. And how long after the parade did he wait

to text the entire team like, hey guys, my bad, I know I was really drunk. Sorry about almost losing to LaBarri Turkey. Nah, nah, I think, like, this is my first time being a part of Super Bowl Parade, but I think this one was different. And I think he deserved that, no matter whatever it was. You know, I remember in prior to the beginning of the season,

they were saying he was too old, he doesn't have it. You've seen the video he put up, the video he put up recently on his page when he had me in there saying I was washed. They had him saying he's old, you know, he's by the retiree, whatever the case may be. And I think just believing in yourself and the daughters have nothing to say.

He did a remarkable job and the way he came back from it. How fun was that parade though? It looked like everybody was having like the best time of their life on those boats. Man, listen, I had a blast. You know, they had big cans flying at us, you know, they had duck for cover, but the overall experience of on the water and boats,

it was remarkable. The other moment that I realized that you were probably the most like guy on the team is all the jokes you're making about JPP on the boat. That, I feel like you have to be close to a guy to make some of those jokes. It seems like you guys have a good friendship. Yeah, yeah, we all have tight friends on the team, you know.

We joke around with each other all day. And listen, let's not get this twisted. He may have seven and a half fingers, but he is a Hall of Famer. He's a Hall of Famer. He's a two-time champion. And his resume and his credentials he has is remarkable. You know, like understand like even being a guy like JPP,

you know, he's been through similar situations. I've been in, you know what I mean? He's been traded, whatever the case may be. But I think he was the leader on the offense besides, I mean, defense besides Devin White, who was really vocal and I think he's one of the guys who actually played, played and talked the talk. Yeah, both of them were sacks.

And my guy had two interceptions this year. So yeah, it says a lot. Yes, yes. And he had a lot of deflected passes too. Like he has remarkably good hands for not having two good hands. Like that's, listen, listen. And his favorite thing I remember, I think it was

some game I had a bad game dropping balls. He's like, I catch better than you. I said, damn, you write that game, you probably did. Did he, did he say anything to Joe Hague after he dropped that touchdown catch? Say it again. The Lyman, what's his name? Joe, I don't know how to pronounce his last name.

Joe Hague. The trick play you guys ran. The Lyman who almost caught the touchdown. Oh, Joe. No, no, it was just, you know, the big guys, man, you know, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't practice. You know, they don't train the hit, get hit like that, trying to catch the ball.

So he tried his best. I give you that. He tried his best. Uh-huh. Yeah. I saw that you guys are trying to bring everybody back next year. I think the entire coaching staff is coming back. It might have been a blessing in disguise that you guys, you know, obviously like there's talk of Byron Leftwich

getting a head coaching gig somewhere. There's always going to be talk, talk about Todd Bowles with that defense that you have. You're essentially bringing back the entire team next year and the entire coaching staff. Is that something that you guys talked about? Like how soon after the game did y'all wait to get together and be like,

Hey, who here is committed? Let's do this again. Uh, I think it was like, I think that Monday thing. Then we had our team meeting, we had things like that. And, uh, they gave the speeches like, man, we want this team to stay together and they're going to try their best to keep us together. And like I said, I don't mind.

I mean, they had a room and said that, that I said, I might, uh, I probably want to stay if I get most of the carries, which is not true. I never count my mouth. You know what I mean? I mean, I, I enjoy that. You know what I mean? Uh, that one and two puncher man, real Joe, you know,

and it kind of saves your body a lot too. You know, and I think this team, uh, we could do something special if we stay together again. So hopefully, uh, they make something happen. They get it done. I would love to, uh, I would love to rejoin, you know, but things happen, you know, if it doesn't work out, you know, it happens.

So just stand and pray it up and I'm going to let my agents and I'm deal with that right now. Uh, I'm still celebrating the world champion. That's like, listen, that's hard. Yeah. That's hard. Yes. That's hard.

So like I went from the body limit to playoff limit to Super Bowl limit. So now everybody's called me champ. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to take champ. Champ. And you had the tweet, which I love when you, uh, signed

with the box and you're like, I can't wait to play in the Super Bowl. And then, and then you quoted it as like, I can't wait to win the Super Bowl. It's all been pretty cool. And I know that it's not, you know, we last time you were on, which we, we hashed that out. I, I, I was, uh, you know, regular season Lenny.

Maybe not always the best, but playoff Lenny's a different beast and your family. Now you actually said that to us. So we, we, you have to, you are family. Barstool, Barstool Lenny Barstool Lenny, do you want, do you want to blog for us? I would love to. Okay.

I'd say all you have to do, just like make a tweet thread and then I'll just embed that tweet thread into a blog. And we'll just say it's from Barstool Lenny. So anytime, yeah, anytime you tweet a thread, we're going to blog it for you. Okay. All right. Say less.

All right. Well, uh, Leonard, thank you so much, man. Congrats again. Uh, Lombardi Lenny is, I mean, it's a great nickname. So I have one last one. Yeah. Yeah. It's a great nickname.

I'm just curious. What's the going rate? How much did you guys pay the officials before the game? Yeah. I mean, no, no, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie to you. Uh, that we came out, we came out with our minds, you know, we knew, we knew it was going to be a battle.

We just came out fighting, man. That's all we did. You know, that's all. Yeah. It wasn't an ass kicking. Yeah. That's one, that's one game you can point to and be like, the more physical team won that game.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh wait. Also, how many people are you taking out to dinner? Because you said you tweeted the other day, spread the word. I want to take some of my brothers from 2014 out. So, so it's from, it's from my high school, right?

Okay. I want to sign off and stay in high school. So my, my, my graduate class, everybody graduated. I have people who come, that's what I'm taking out to eat. You know, um, you know, that just like, it's different. You know, I mean, you know, you have your college friends, you know, you know, guys and that I felt, but I think I cherish high school so much, you know, I enjoy high school so much.

Like I still have a friendship with those guys, you know, we still talk, we still have a group message with each other. You know, so in my school, you know, you might go to, you might switch schools, but my school, I want to sign off from my seventh grade year to my senior year at high school. So we grew from boys to men. Yeah. And you guys take a lot of people out to dinner now.

Me, you know, that's who will check the pays off. So I got it. All right. I saw a lot of people were applying being like, yo, can I come? So, um, maybe, maybe when the, when the pandemic ends, we'll go out to dinner with you. We can split it with you, but that would be fun. Yeah.

The boss, the boss through luncheon. Yes. Exactly. Lombard feature in Lombardi Lenny. All right. Well, thanks so much. We really appreciate it, man. And we'll keep in touch.

I appreciate it. My God. Thanks for having me once again. All right. Thanks, man. Take care. Enjoy your off season. Yeah.

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OK, we now welcome on a very special guest, Super Bowl champion Chris Hogan, who is now entered, officially entered the PLL draft. We are PLL owners. We figured it'd be good to have him on, talk about football, talk about La Crosse. So, Chris, thank you for joining us. Are you officially a pro La Crosse player? Do you have to be drafted? Is there like a chance you might not be drafted?

I'm entering the draft, so I still have to be drafted. OK, I don't think that there's a chance. I don't actually, you know what, let's put up some smoke screens. We won't pass up. We're not going to take you. We've got you off our big board. We're just smoke screen a little bit. Actually, I'd like to ask you some questions

as as somebody who is kind of going through the combine interview process. Right now, I figured this was going to be an official interview here. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So well, first of all, I just like to know, do you really love La Crosse? Because you took a lot of time off. I did. I mean, I chose it over football when I went to go play college. Wait, now, did you choose it over football or did La Crosse choose you? Could you have made the Penn State football team?

I don't know. Yeah, that's a question somebody might someone might ask. But I mean, I put all my eggs into La Crosse when I got to college. I loved La Crosse, always loved La Crosse, knew that I was going to make my way back to the sport some way, shape or form when I was done playing football. Thought about walking on to the Penn State football team. But I was having too much fun playing playing La Crosse at Penn State. So wait, are you done playing football, though?

I am not officially retired. So that door is still open. OK, interesting. Some may say, though, you're juggling too many things at once. You can use what do you what's a word Billy? Give us a word. Can you stick? Can you cradle and can dangle? How are you dangle and cradle at the same time?

I'm a multi talented guy. I can I can do it all. OK, my favorite question that they ask at the combine is would you rather be a cat or a dog? Dog was that that's the right answer. But I'm a dog. I'm a dog person. I'm a dog lover. I have two great games myself. OK. They follow me around everywhere. I'm a dog person.

Would you be amenable to water dogs? Good point. We are the water dogs. Would you be amenable to maybe changing your name if we were to draft you to sell more jerseys? Like I was thinking what's a good look right? Just Chad, like like like your share. Yeah, just Chad. How many how many lacrosse jerseys

do you think we would sell if it was if it was Chris Hogan? But it was just Chad number five on the back. Just Chad. Yeah. The Chad or just Chad? I think just Chad or Hulk. We could just do Hulk. We could do Hulk, too. Yeah, I hope my Hulk might be a better seller. There is actually a Chris Hogan

who seems like he's more accomplished than you because he has a bunch of books about how to become a millionaire. Do you know that guy? Yeah, I know. He actually pops up when you Google my name. He pops up before me. I think his picture does as well. Yeah, how to become an everyday millionaire.

You should write that book and be like play lacrosse and football. I look at all my Twitter mentions and actually start I started following this guy, seeing like what he's talking about. Yeah, I'm curious to like on an actual note, like to know how coming from lacrosse into football, like how long did it take you to really get to the level with your hands?

There was like fine skills that you use in football that may not have gotten that much practice while you were playing in college. Like how long did it take you to get to a point where you're like, yeah, you know what? I think I can actually be an NFL wide receiver. I mean, the transition so it's like effortless because it's just the eye hand coordination,

the dodging, you know, the conditioning, the physical part of it, both games. Like playing receiver and then playing like midfielder attack is so similar. And then I think the biggest thing for me, like when I was playing lacrosse, like trying to go over to play football was like learn how to run routes.

That was like the biggest thing for me. Yeah. Yeah. What about did how often did Belichick just like pull you aside just to talk about lacrosse? Honestly, we had a little banter going back and forth because he's a big Hopkins guy. So Penn State and Hopkins, they went into the big 10 a few years ago together.

So there was a little bit of that rivalry going around and Petro, the head coach at Hopkins at the time, he would come by every now and then. So and they had, you know, there was that building was littered with lacrosse guys. You know, his sons were both there. Mike Pellegrino, he was a college lacrosse player at Hopkins.

He's the coach there. So, you know, there was lacrosse talk going on. I heard you lit up Steve Belichick in college. Is that true? Was there any animosity that lagged after that? Zero animosity and that story is, I can't, I can't tell you whether that's true or not. I don't, I know I played against Steve,

but we didn't, I didn't know each other at the time. So. Did you light him up? I don't think so. That Billy is right here saying yes. So we have our resident football. I need video. I mean, there's probably some video evidence of it

that if it's out there. Yeah, Billy, what did you hear? He had a couple of points on him. I looked at the Rutgers Penn State game box score. Okay, all right. So there you go. You lit him up for a couple of points. You lit him up for a few.

Billy said he scored like a hundred goals on him. No. No, Billy's, his pre-interview notes for us were like, you lit him up. It was sweet. Yeah. Chris, I'm off camera, but I actually met you in middle school at a football camp

at Joe's name is football camp and you're really awesome. And I just wanted to say like, you know, that was so cool. You don't have to answer that, Chris. Do you wait? No, no, Chris, do you, do you remember Billy? I don't. Where was the football? I mean, that was like one of like a bunch of kids.

Yeah, but I mean, maybe he remembered you, bro. Where was the football camp? It was at Westconn. Joe's name is football camp. Oh, okay. Joe's name is the, yeah, okay. Yeah. There's a lot of kids there.

Yeah, I know, I know, I know. Yeah, but there's only one Billy. I look like everyone. Go get in front of the camera and see if he remembers you. We probably, we probably have, we probably got a picture of it, right? Yeah. Do you have a picture?

I think I do. Okay, all right. We'll have to find that picture. That's a cool story, Billy. Can I actually ask him a question? Yeah, ask a question. Go ahead, ask a question. He's very, Chris.

He's our intern. He's very excited to talk to you. He was played lacrosse and football, so he's modeled his entire life off of you. No, I actually have some, you know, coming back to the game, coming back to lacrosse from football. Of course, you're an amazing athlete.

Do you think you're gonna go into, you know, these guys are pro lacrosse players. They're, you know, been in the game for longer. You know, they're back in the game, but do you think you have the skill set in the offensive stick handling to actually be an offensive threat? Because I know you're gonna be an amazing,

you know, short stick defensive midi. I know you're gonna be great in transition because you're an amazing athlete. Do you think you have the skill set in, you know, do you think there's any rust or do you think you can have the same offensive production as you did at Penn State? Good question.

I think where my game will excel when I first get back into playing, well, like you said, it would be that fast-paced transition game, you know, trying to create those different, you know, three-on-four situations, just trying to use my speed and my athleticism. But I'm putting a lot of work in

to try to contribute on offense as well. And I think, you know, the more that I continue to train and, you know, work on my stick skills and shooting, and there's a lot that goes into it, but, you know, I'm really looking forward to the opportunity to try to get on the field and contribute in every single way that I can. And being on the offensive side of things

will be one thing that I'm looking forward to, that challenge. So for the last seven years, have you, like if you actively kept up with playing lacrosse, would it be something that you would do to like unwind after football practice? Or like, I'll go in the backyard, throw the ball around a little bit,

or was it something you pick up in the locker room? I mean, it's not like something that I had. We had, I had a stick in the locker room. Yeah. And I would, I'd play, you know, to have a catch with some of the guys playing lacrosse and at Penn State. I mean, on the Patriots,

some of the guys, you know, in Carolina, you know, I toss it around a little bit. You know, when I was ever, when I was in the summer, you know, down the shore, I mean, my wife played, you know, we would toss it around a little bit. So I've had a stick in my hands. It's not like I haven't picked up a stick in 10 years. And this is like some foreign thing to me.

You know, it's going to take some, it's like riding a bike for me, like picking up a stick. But I think getting back into actually playing lacrosse and the game, the game has changed since I played. How so? Well, we know, because we're lacrosse heads, but other basket boys, we're basket boys. There's more, faster.

Okay. It's super fast, quick whistles. You know, when I played, you know, there was, you had to get it in the box intense, you know, within 10 seconds, the whistles, you know, there was more whistles and longer time in between whistles. It's like everything now is just, it's fast-paced. And I think that's, I'm looking forward to that.

Because I think that would be fun for me, you know, to kind of get back into that. Yeah, Billy, how do you like your pocket? Are you a low pocket guy, high pocket? What kind of shooting strings do you use? I mean, what kind of mesh? Just what it is. No, that's a good question.

I'm using Epic Lacrosse sticks and other gear right now. And I think that's probably the one thing I'm trying to figure out the most is that, you know, How do you like your pocket? Yeah, I mean, that changed too. You have to have a certain number of shooting strings in there when I played, you could have. Whatever, it's a Wild West.

Or you could have whatever. You're rocking three youths. Yeah, so it's changed a little bit, but that's, I'm not like that can start about, I'm more of a, I'm a high pocket guy, dancer. Okay. Who was, who do you think would have been the best player on those Patriots teams?

If they like, one of the guys that didn't play Lacrosse, who would have been able to make the transition to the game easiest? I mean, just his athleticism alone, probably. I mean, probably Gronk, to be honest with you. You know, Gronk wouldn't even have to worry about like stick skills. I mean, the guy can, you know,

just that the stick would be invisible. You'd stick him on attack and he'd be able to run through everybody. Yeah. I mean, I've been, and you know, there's some other guys too. I mean, you stick like, you know, a guy like Jonathan Jones, you know,

who can just flat out fly. I mean, it's gonna be tough to cover. You know, if he gets a running head start, you know, there's, and all those guys are super athletic. I don't think they could pick up a stick and just be good at it right away, but if they put some time into it,

I think they could be good lacrosse players. Do you, obviously, I assume you watched the Super Bowl. Do you keep in touch with Tom Brady at all? Yeah, I text him every now and then and I text him after the Super Bowl, I told him that I was super happy for him. It was pretty cool to watch him all year and what he was able to do.

And it was fun. It was fun to watch him kind of solidify his legacy, you know, go to a team that didn't even make a playoffs the year before, have a winning season and turn that whole, you know, that whole organization around and come in a Super Bowl. I mean, that's nothing short of amazing right there.

Do you and Julian Edelman, were you guys, did you guys text at all being a little jealous of Scotty Miller? The guy, he kind of stole your guy's shtick. I liked, no, we didn't have any bed. I was happy for the kid. I mean, he reminds me so much of like my role when I was my first year with the Patriots, you know,

just kind of, you know, he's, I mean, that kid can fly. I mean, he's definitely, he's a little faster than me, but, you know, just that deep, that deep threat, you know, really taking advantage of all the opportunities that you got. I mean, he had a solid year with Tom, so it was fun to watch. No animosity towards the kid though.

I mean, he had an awesome year. Julian might have been a little salty about it. I think he was, he definitely was. And he'd probably be the first one to say that. We're, I guess we consider ourselves pretty good friends with Jules. And we always bring up to him how thirsty he is on Instagram. He always has those pictures with like nine abs out

that he obviously puts like extra filters on. He probably has a guy that just photoshopped his stomach. Did he ever make you like- Yeah, he's always got a shirt off. Yeah, did he make you take pictures of him ever? No, no, no, no, I drew the line there. No pictures taken of Julian. Obviously you're, I mean, I don't want to assume,

but I assume your body wasn't as good as his or isn't as good as his, because otherwise you would have some shirts off, right? I mean, I just, I don't like to flaunt, you know, my body on social media the way that he does. Yeah. He's out there, you know, trying to find his girlfriend. And, you know, I found my, I found my forever, forever one.

She's sitting right next to me right now laughing probably at me, but. The best one was he did, it was a father's day post and it was his dad like behind him and he had a shirt off. And we gave him, he was like, I love my dad. It's like, but that's just you with your shirt off, dude. So we gave him some shit for that. But I, listen, if I, if I look like Julian Edelman,

I would never have my shirt on either. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so I'm not going to either. Yes, yes, yes. So we were looking through the course of your career in the NFL. What happened in 2019 when you were like, you know what? I'm going to, I'm going to play for a team

that's not in the AFC East for the first time ever. It was, I mean, that was my first year hitting free agency. So that was, you know, it was a, it was a cool experience. It was definitely different. And Carolina had called and I went down there, visited with them, Greg Olson, you know, the guy that I've kept in, you know, he, we went to play to rival high schools

and a little bit older than me. That team just was pretty stellar. And I thought they had a good chance of, you know, being really, really good. And obviously, you know, we were kind of real with injuries that year and didn't really go the way that we wanted it to. But it was a, it was, I was excited to kind of get out

of the AFC East for once and experience, you know, the different sides of the league. You know, it was, it was fun. That team was awesome. And playing with McCaffrey and those guys. I mean, that kid is, you know, he's incredible. Yeah. All right. So when is the actual PLL draft?

Do we know? We should know. I do know, but we're curious what you think. This is one of the pre draft questions. Yeah. When is it? March 25th. March 25th, exactly.

Yep. Are you going to have like cameras in your house, like ready for, you know, draft day and everything? That's, we'll see. We'll see what happens. Okay. I mean, I'm excited about it. We'll see.

You know, I don't know what's going to happen. I mean, I'm, I'm kind of hoping that I get drafted and I get the opportunity to play with these guys. And you know, I'm definitely working towards it. You don't have any like weed gas mask pictures that are going to come out on the 25th. Right? Oh, there's no skeletons in my closet.

Okay. Good. Good. What are you going to say, Billy? Where would you want to end up? Which PLL team would you want to play? And who would you, who are you excited if you get the opportunity to play with? I mean, I got, I got some, some fellow Penn Staters.

You know, Grant, a man, obviously he's, he's new to league and he plays for the archers. It'd be cool to play with them. Drew Adams is another guy. It would be fun to play with. Honestly, I don't know, wherever I end up, but I'm just excited about the opportunity just to kind of sort of these guys.

Good answer. This is a- It really doesn't matter to me. Good answer. I'm just looking to, looking forward to getting out in the field with these guys and, and trying to compete with them. Great answer. That's a very Belichecky and Patriot, like, yeah,

that's a good answer. This is not, you know, this is not my first time being drilled with these questions. I don't have any. This is probably since I'm part of the owner organization. You're not. No, you're not. You're like, you're like an intern.

You have no shares. I know, but can I just ask you a question? So Miles Jones is driving down the lane. How are you playing defense on Miles Jones? He's probably built like Gromp. He's big. Yeah. Like he's, he's coming down.

Billy just wants you to talk about a big guy. Are you going to take him on? Do you think you can do it? I mean, you're playing the NFL. I mean, I'm not, I'm not going to, I'm not one to shy away from contact. Right. You know, I mean, I've been,

I've been doing it for the last 10 years and been taking some pretty good shots from guys that are even bigger than that guy. So I think I'll, I mean, I'll take my chance. See what happens. I don't know how it'll turn out, but I'm not going to shy away from it. Great question, Billy.

You literally were just asking, can you, can you take on a guy who's taller than you? That was what your question was. Everything goes down to like fights and height. I've seen him die. He's a physical dodger. He's a really good player, but you know, we'll see. Maybe I'll get the opportunity to let that happen.

I've always been curious because you don't get to watch your NFL games at home on TV and let's you go back and you watch the broadcast, but it seemed like the only thing that you would ever discuss with Chris Collinsworth in your production meetings was the fact that you used to play lacrosse. Yeah. How much time did you spend going over that with like Joe Buck, Troy Aikman,

Collinsworth, Al Michaels, those guys? Uh, I mean, I didn't, it was like, it kind of took off after that one Monday night game where I mentioned, you know, Penn State lacrosse and I think from there, I just did a ton of stories. I mean, I never really did a lot of like, you know, backstory with these guys and, you know, the day before games and the media.

I think I did a ton of, you know, press about it, you know, getting into the league and, you know, leading up to the first Super Bowl, there was a ton of, you know, a ton of articles and a ton of stuff written about, you know, my past and where I came from. And, you know, that just kind of followed with me whenever, wherever I went for my entire career was, you know,

this guy was a little cross player, but yeah. It became, I think it's from our perspective, it's like the Antonio Gates played basketball in high, in college. Right. It's Patrick with Harvard. Yeah. It becomes a storyline that you can't escape. And that's the first thing that everyone thinks of, which is good in this case because March 25th,

people are like, Oh yeah, Chris Hogan. Well, one, he's the millionaire on, on online who sells best selling books. And two, he's the football slash lacrosse player. Exactly. Yeah. All right. Well, we will, I can, we can't tell you that we're going to draft you. All right. Billy has one last question.

We can't tell you that we're going to draft you, but we're looking forward to possibly drafting you and giving you a shot on March 25th. And we'll end with Billy's last question, which I'm sure we'll have something to do with height. No, no, it has to do with this. Football is awesome, of course. Okay, but, you know, when you play football,

it starts to become a job. Would you say lacrosse is more fun? I mean, I think we're. We're trending in the direction where lacrosse is going to become people's jobs. I mean, we're professional athletes. That that's our job, right? So we're trying to, you know, what the PLL is trying to do,

what rabels trying to do is grow this sport so that this is a job for guys. You know, this will become a way for people to just make a living. And guys are already making a living doing it, and that's their job. I wouldn't say one's more fun than the other. I mean, for me, I'm a competitor. I like to compete, you know, and I get to compete.

And I got to do it for the last 10 years with the best athletes in, you know, in the world playing football. And now I'm going to be able to do it again, just playing a different sport. So, yeah, it was my job to be a professional football player. And now hopefully I'll have another job, you know, being a professional lacrosse player. But more from the angle of actually playing the sport,

like, you know, football, you're worried about, like, your assignment, you're making the right read, whereas lacrosse is just a little more freeform. Billy just wants you to say that lacrosse is more fun. Let's just cut to the chase. Billy, can you just talk? I'm dancing around it because I'm trying to give the more political answers.

Yeah, just saying. Yeah, I'll run Billy through a translator here. Now talk about how sweet it is to play lacrosse. It is super sweet, bro. How fast you shoot? I haven't been caught. I mean, I was clocked in high school at my left hand was like 100. Can you shoot?

What can you shoot with your right? I think it was like 95, 96. Draft them? Yeah, how fast can you shoot, Billy? I shot in eighth grade. I shot 89 miles per hour. Whoa. So that was clearly the highest.

The fastest. Well, then I focused on football. Oh, got it. You got it. And also, this is the entire reason Billy brought up how fast can you shoot so that we could ask him how fast he shot when he was in eighth grade as like a freak. As a two-year-old, I shot four miles an hour. So you could imagine the potential I had.

I have to say, Chris, you are good. You've got the Belicheckian, Patriot way media training down really well. Was that something? Super great. Did you have training sessions where they'd be like, here's how to answer specific questions? Yeah, he would go over some different things, but like, you also didn't want to walk into a Monday meeting the day after a game or just another meeting where you were the highlight of that team meeting because you said something stupid to the media.

So it was always kind of, you know, speak for yourself, speak about the team, and nobody else. And, you know, I kind of, I could, I drive with that. So like I was, I didn't want to, you know, step on anyone's toes. I didn't want Bill to call me out in front of the entire team, which he certainly would if he said something stupid. So I adopted the Patriot way immediately when I got there. Yes.

Yes. And now that makes you very draftable for the water dogs. Chris, thank you very much. Good luck, March 25th. Hopefully you're on our team. And I'm sure I'll just, Billy will have some follow-up questions. I'll email you or whatever. Thanks, man.

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That's ziprecruiter.com slash PMT, Zip Recruiter, the smartest way to hire. All right. Let's wrap up. The rest of the week, Hank, you want to start? Sure. What's your prior fast? PFT farted yesterday inside of Stoolstream Stadium and has not admitted it and it's getting to the point now where it's just like, I don't know what to do.

I didn't even poop yesterday. How could I have farted? I didn't poop since Sunday night. Wouldn't that mean you were more likely to fart? No. It means I was airtight. There was nothing getting in, nothing getting out. I didn't fart.

This is Hank doing fraud scenes again. I can't remember if you had my back or not with the Mountain Dew bottle. I was thinking I was rooting for chaos in that situation, so then I don't give a fuck about it. I'm rooting for everything to happen between you two. At the end of Stoolstreams yesterday, which is actually a very ironic name to have a program named that where there's a fart controversy, but we had just lost the championship and on the replay of the video, there was a loud fart noise.

I was right there, it was like me, Liz, Spider, who else is it from, BigEv, Jake, our darling Jake and Jeff were also in there, and I didn't hear a fart as it happened. There was a fart in the video that was almost like a loud cartoonish fart. I actually think that Hank had like a soundboard in the truck, a fartboard, piped it in to get more views on his little video that he was putting out, and then he wrote like two blogs about it, and he's tried to squeeze constant out of it. PFT has been really going out of his way to create other circumstances that it might have been instead of just denying it.

It's not like it wasn't me, it was like, I think you did it. I don't think it ever happened. I haven't pooped. On Sunday I talked about shitting myself. You, out of the blue, it was like, you know, the fart happened, you probably felt a little guilty about it, and then lo and behold, almost minutes after the broadcast I did, PFT tweeted I haven't pooped in days, like just clearing your name for no reason. Hank lying about everything.

After Hank wrote a second blog about it. You wrote two blogs? I wrote one blog. Which is basically worth like five, because I don't really blog. So you wrote five blogs? Potentially, yeah. That's a lot of blogs about it, Hank, and it means you probably were trying to boost the ratings.

Yes, exactly. But you did, you did fart, right? No, I didn't fart. Hank kept tagging me, trying to get a pity retweet or something out of me, and I had no idea what was going on, and all of a sudden everybody was like, yo, PFT, did you fart? I didn't fart. I would admit if I farted. I'm telling you.

I was physically incapable of farting until about nine o'clock last night when I finally pooped. Hank, let me ask you a question. Yes. Why do you think PFT is so ashamed to admit that he farted? I don't know why, we've looked at the film, we've pulled all the angles, the people that were closest, whose asses were closest to the microphones were PFT, Spider, and Big Ev.

But I don't know, I don't know. I think it was PFT, but I really don't know. Hank, don't you have a mic? Let me ask you. I was in the control room. But you have a mic. No. It could have been you.

No, that's not how it works. This is what I'm saying, where it's like he's really trying to deflect, deflect, deflect. One question that we're not asking is, where was Jake during this entire time? I wouldn't lie. I would fast up right away. And also, I don't think you'd ever fart on a broadcast. You would have to hold on. I would hold on.

Do you think, PFT, do you think that this is a very low move of Hank to try to boost the viewership of Stool Streams, the thing he's obsessed about more than anything else in the world with just a simple fart? I think it's a, yes, it's a very low move. It's soft moor. I frankly would expect more from him. If I was to do that, that would be a genius move that's like diabolically smart, but I'm not capable of doing thinking that far in advance to be like, okay, championship,

we know we've had to cancel it a hundred times. Let's add in a fart sound effect right when the thing ends. And then I just, I'm not a good liar like that. I don't have the capabilities to put all that in motion and then do this witch hunt. Okay, so now that I've got all the facts, I'll fart into a microphone. We can cross reference my fart. Well, you already did, yes. You should make everybody fart.

It was like, yeah, I'll put the sound in it. Someone shit their pants. And you also- Got it. I don't know what the fuck the job is, but they were- Got it. I don't know what the fuck the job is, but they were- You should make everybody fart into a microphone and then do fart print analysis and compare

to the audio waves and see who's asshole is. I have one last thing- I'll fart right now. To present to the jury before you make your decision. It's really not about the fart itself. Everyone farts. Everybody poops. Everyone knows that.

It's- If I was to make a comparable situation, it's like if we put out a video, we're in the part of my take studio, we all thought it was a great video, and then all of a sudden in the comments people are like, who ripped ass? And then you go back and listen and you're like, someone ripped ass. You would want to know who it was. Agreed, yes. That is where I'm at.

I don't care who it was, but the fact that no one is admitting it is driving me crazy. But the thing is- And you are going out of your way to like- You are being very defensive. Yes. I'm just responding to Hank tagging me like six times. I wasn't even going to comment on it because I knew it wasn't me. In fact, I didn't even hear a fart while we were there.

That fart is so loud that I would have definitely heard it. Spider didn't hear one. There's a confetti machine going on. There's a lot of things going on. The issue I'm having here is Hank does make a good point that he's too dumb to actually like plan something like this out and you are being very defensive. I don't know. Billy, you decide.

You know, if no one actually heard it in the building, I think it's much more likely to be interference. Got it. I think people want to put a fart. Have you heard it yet? Yeah. It was a little wet. It was like-

It was too- It was very- You know, honestly- It was a wap fart. It is also very- The timing is nothing short of what is it, Michael Scott, nothing short of predominant that you also have been talking nonstop about your bowel movements or lack thereof. Correct.

Now, I haven't really been talking about my bowel movements until after that. That's why I brought it up. You were tweeting about Skyline Chili before- No, no, no, no, no. Correct me if I'm wrong. No, no, no, no. Did you or did you not shit your pants within the last seven days? Yep, also-

I did on Sunday. It's been a big bowel movement. Week talk. I tweeted out the Skyline Chili thing after Stool Streams yesterday. Right, but- That was afterwards. He is right. It has been a main storyline this week.

It has. I'll tell you what. If it was my asshole, it wouldn't have sounded wet because that was the farthest thing from what my bowel was like yesterday. You know what? It's dry as a rock. I think it's time- Have you gotten a colonoscopy lately?

No, you couldn't fit anything up there. Thank you, doctor. I'm just- You finna? No. I think you guys are getting to that, you know- I've still got 13 years. Okay.

Honestly, it wasn't me if you want to pin it on me. Hank, tell you what. It's one of those things where I thought it was a funny thing and I was like, hi, we know, we'll get to the bottom of it, someone will admit it, and no one's admitting it now, and it's just like kind of pissing me off. And when people get defensive, it's like, wait, what's going on? I got you. I only got defensive after Hank put me on the defense.

I just asked, was it you? That's all I asked. They're being very accusatory. You started the second- You were one of four people? I don't know. That was like a good cop, bad cop, you know, just get it out of the way. Can't you triangulate that audio?

Yeah. You're working on it. We've sent it out to the people that do that type of stuff, forensic files. I welcome transparency. I will fart into a microphone if you need to compare. I don't care. I'm an open book. All right.

So PFT, what's your firefest besides the fact that you got caught fighting and farting into a microphone and deny it? That I'm constipated. Okay. Yeah. That's my firefest. Which has nothing to do with the other thing. No.

Which is tough. It actually, I don't think that I farted in between Monday and Thursday night is the same thing. So it actually could have been me. But let that be a lesson if you do have any sort of medical procedure and they give you pain medicine, mix in several prunes. I'm talking prune juice. I'm talking all the fiber that you can find.

I had to just say I'm done with the pain medicine because if you can't, if you don't poop for three days, that throws off my entire week or pack a dinger. So I actually- Or a losing Jenga. Or a losing Jenga. That helps too. I did two like nine pieces of nicotine gum last night to get things going. That's good.

That didn't end up working. My other firefest is just like shout out people in Texas dealing with like a real firefest right now. That sucks. Snow? That sucks. The snow, no power, no water. Can't take vacations with the guy out getting shamed.

Yeah. It's really tough. Are you a big Ted Cruz guy now? No. I just, you know, I'm on the front lines of vacations everywhere. I think when Hank, yeah, Hank is just getting- Doesn't matter. You know.

Hank is just standing with a guy- His daughter's gonna be like, we want to go on vacation tomorrow and he's being a good dad and being like, okay, yeah, let's go to Cancun. Like that's, to me, that's what Hank's going to be like. You have a kid- Vacation shaming in all forms is wrong. That's my stance. Yeah.

I love it. I do think that politicians just should not be on Twitter at all. I've seen way too much of politicians dunking on other politicians, like people that are in the Senate and House of Representatives spend like 90% of their time thinking about how they can get retweets. I think once you get elected to a national office right like that, you should just not be on Twitter. There's no point.

Yeah. I mean, you should Justin Herbert it. Yeah. I got no firefest because I survived COVID and life is good, you know, you got to celebrate the small things. Some things big cat. Yeah. Some things.

Exactly. Some things actually mean some things. That's true. I'm not trying to get other people fired or having coaches that steal money on podcasts. Some things. You're fired first. Yeah. So I watch the battle every week and for some reason, for some reason that's the only program

on the only channel where the TV narrative voice just says everything. It's annoying. I can't figure it out. Wait, what do you mean? So you got Siri narrating the bachelor for you. So it's like, so you know how better than Chris Harrison, there's like a narrative voice. Yeah. But it's not at any other channel and then when like Will a fortune or whatever is on

beforehand, there will be no, no, no, no narrator. It's just for that show. What do you mean? Narrator. Like a robot voice like, uh, the Siri reading the, oh, yeah, or weird background, mountains and flowers. Weird. It's only that show every week and only on your television.

You can't watch. Does that follow you? You can't watch the show. Right. Yeah. I mean, you can watch. How do you watch the show? You watch the show?

Yeah. With that? What? Yeah. I mean, you are a psycho. Do you think in your little studio apartment, that's the saddest thing in America right there? No, you just know Monday nights suck.

Well, the big Monday, Virginia FSU, you're sitting in your, in your, in your kitchen. No. It's separate. It's separate. Do you have a, wait. Do you have a wall? I have a wall. Yeah.

There's a wall. Do you have a door in your bathroom and kitchen or separate? It's just. But those are combined. The toilets next to the fridge. And the fucking robots just being like, and they enter. Yeah. Oh my God.

Jake, only for that. Have you thought that maybe you're going insane? No. Maybe it's all in your mind. We need to change the situation. Who you got winning, Jake? I mean, do you want to spoil it? Oh, you know?

Maybe. How do you know? All right. So no, no, don't spoil it. There's a person called Reality Steve. They know. But you go and seek him out? Yeah.

Why? What? I do the same thing with Big Brother. Oh my God. You always know the ending? A survivor, they don't really spoil it, but Big Brother in the bathroom. Yeah. I have a friend that does that for the challenge.

It's crazy. Why? Who is this Reality Steve guy? I just know everything. He's just the plug. Yeah, I've heard of him. Just the plug. No, he does get it everything right, but why do you?

That's crazy. Also, I like the first few weeks when it's the drama. Now they're in the final four right now. There's really not drama. Hometowns, yeah. Yeah, hometowns. That's crazy. You know the results and you're in for it.

Yeah, I still like watching it. Wow. Do you look up movies before you go to see them? No. Why? Do you DVR games and see the result and then watch the whole game? No, I can't understand those people. You gotta know right away.

You're that person. No. Just for the best of it, it's the exact same thing. You rely on reality. You treat Reality Steve like it's the bottom line that you're watching. That's wild. On a game you haven't even watched. I'm telling you, a lot of people do it.

People tweet us. People will say I'm crazy, but there will be people on my side. Okay, we'll see. I welcome those psychos to show up. Billy, you're Firefest. You almost fought Hank earlier. No. I think I'm either going to go there by the way or be a billionaire.

I like the first one. Oh, this is before Billy gets into this, I walked back to my desk and Billy and Marty Musch were hot on a new financial scheme, so it's pretty much a guarantee that it's the dumbest thing in the world. I walked in this morning and it was the exact same thing. I sat at my desk and Marty goes, you'll PFT, you want to make some quick cash? And then Billy was like, it's awesome. We're mining cryptocurrency at our desk right now.

Sounds legit. It's humans mining, not computers. It's a very complex algorithm that you have to grasp, but a lot of people are like, a lot of fools are fools until they get success and then they're visionaries. You've definitely to convince yourself of that, like, hey, I might be dumb today, but as soon as I'm rich, people are going to be like, that guy's smart. I just got to get a little dumber before I get really smart. So explain to me what you're doing on your phone.

It's kind of basically a cryptocurrency backed by a pyramid scheme. But I think it's not like, you know, you're not buying anything. So if you go on to pie network, use, when they're invite code, put Billy football and I'm going to get so much pie right now. You're going to be the Steven Seagal of pie network. I know, but I was thinking about it like going to jail because this is all legal, which I don't think it is. Or I want to make a ton of money.

Well, so I knew it was a solid and how much does it cost when Marty Marty, yeah, Marty Morse says to me when I sit down, he goes, how do I make money? It's free to do and you have unlimited upside where you can make. Yeah, no, this is no sign up and there's a chance to make money. This is the the office scene where Jim draws the triangle. Yeah. So so Billy's been constantly refreshing his app all day today and telling me how many pies in the office, which is worth how much?

Well, it's speculative value. So how much is it worth? Well, it's worth nothing now, but it will be when Mark and place opens to use pie. So you're down there in the coal mines just. Oh yeah. You're working crypto. Yeah. And so what is it entailed to mine?

When this stuff, it does, you just got to click a button every day and that's how you mine. And then you get rich. It's in use a bunch of anti-robot stuff. So it's not computers making those. Did you have to give your social security number? No, you're not a drummer. Probably going to get.

No, you're not. I'm going to stick to investing in 19 like gifts, 16, 66, it'd be awesome if you went to jail. Yeah. Show me. Very funny. 77. If it sticks.

It might not. It's off. We've got to do it again. Oh, do you have a fact for 17 huffins lose their teeth? Hey, what happened? Hey, did you usually say 17? You always say 17. No, I've been, I've been, I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell my strategy.

There's listeners that I probably could have picked up on it and I was in between whether or not, I'm just, someone out there will, someone out there will be able to put it together. Jake tells the strategy. You know the strategy. Jake knows the strategy. If I had to guess, since I always guess 18, he guesses like one next to it. I don't know if that's the price of the item. I've been, I've started at one and I've just been going one, two, three, four, but I, I,

I might have, I literally was saying to myself, is it 16 or 17? No, it was like 16. Oh, but I might have already said 16. I guess 18, it's like a scratch off. Oh, no. Right above and around below. So, and 17 is my lucky number. Wow.

So to win on a 17 would have been, I'm heated. Oh my God. What does Paul don't lie for? I didn't fart. Love you guys. Billy, what's the animal fact? Puffins lose their beak during the winter. So they just walk around like a thumb?

Yep. No beak. That's weird. How do they kiss? That's sad. Love you guys. You know when you give your love away, you give your love away, they open your heart, everything is new.

And you know time and love is by no way to let your heart move. You know love is everything you say. You know this is the way that love is. You know love is sometimes make you cry. You know love will always let you cry. You know love will always let you cry. You don't have enough shining in your eyes. You don't have enough shining in your eyes.

You don't have enough shining in your eyes.