Pardon My Take - Christian Yelich, Pete Alonso’s Derby Pitcher Dave Jauss & Big Ben’s Diet

Episode Date: July 14, 2021

Home Run Derby sucked but we watched anyway (00:02:23 - 00:08:38). Big Ben is on a diet and also the most persecuted athlete of all time (00:08:38 - 00:18:57). Team USA sucks (00:18:57 - 00:26:06). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Billy’s QB tiers (00:26:06 -00:45:49). Christian Yelich joins the show to catch up, talk about his 2021, chugging beers, getting kicked out of a game and how to hit a big league pitch (00:45:49 - 01:25:46). Mets Bench Coach Dave Jauss joins the show to talk about the HR Derby, being a baseball lifer, the 99 HR Derby and tons more (01:25:46 - 02:04:01). We finish with guys on chicks plus Billy nails his recapYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's Pardon My Take, we got a twofer for the people. We have a baseball episode of Pardon My Take. Christian Yelich, good friend of the program. He joins us. We have a new bet with him, and we're very excited to have him on the show.

We also have Peter Lonzo's pitcher from last night's home on Derby, Dave Jouse, and he is probably the most interesting baseball lifer there is. So we talked to him. Great storyteller. Been in baseball for 40-plus years. Awesome interview with him. We also have Big Ben on a Diet, Billy's QB List, Hot Seat Cool Throne Tears, and Guys on Chicks.

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It's incredible. He's struck out the side, perfect game, homer, excuse me, a perfect inning, and then he hit back-to-back home runs. Yeah, so we're actually recording the show before the All-Star game because, yeah, we're doing it. We're just doing it, and it was a great game. Shohei Otani was incredible. Joe Buck, now it was cool.

We stay out for sports when they matter. Yeah. We're going to let go, but we have a great baseball show for you. It was actually funny. So today on Greeny, the radio show, which I'm sure you've already listened to, his producer said, went off on like a three-minute rant crying about how certain players aren't playing in the All-Star game. Yeah.

And he just wants them to care as much about the game as he cares about the game. You don't even have a car. You don't have a car. How are you listening to this? Oh, I got a guy that clips up porches and then sends it to me. Yeah, because Jacob DeGrom really needs to be starting in the All-Star game. That would be smart. The guy who gets injured every, like, fourth day.

But we have a huge baseball episode for you. Christian Yaltsch is a great interview. And then Dave Jouse, who threw B.P. to Peter Lanzo, who we should have mentioned, is the home run derby champ. People are mad because the rules of the home run derby are getting, people are getting cheated left and right in terms of when the last pitch is eligible. I don't, I think we're at a point now where we care too much about these rules. The only reason I care about it is because they took what was quite literally the simplest

competition in sports, which is hit ball over fence. Next person, you try to hit more balls over fence than first person did. And then they put a clock in it. They added extra time based on stat cast. They started measuring, like, exit velocity. No, hold on. Wait, before, before even the extra time because of stat cast, I don't know if you notice this, but it was three minutes, then you get 30 seconds extra time just for being there.

That's three minutes and 30 seconds. And you get a timeout that you can incorporate anytime. Timeout should never be incorporated into the home run derby. It's very, it's a very simple process, big cat. You have a guy pitch you a ball and then you hit the ball over fence. You mash taters. It's the most American thing ever. And then if you can smash more dongs in the next guy, then you get that giant bat trophy

from Century 21 or whatever. And a car and a truck. So yeah, in the ESPN broadcast made no sense. There was just graphics everywhere. All I wanted to see was taters get hit. I wanted to see kids get hurt, which one kid did. Shout out to that kid. Hope you're okay.

I want to see guys fall down. That also happened. But that's it. You don't have to, you don't have to make something that is so simple. Yes. And so like it is the ultimate just, just turn on the TV, turn your brain off, watch big man hit long ball and then have bigger man, Chris Berman just say, that's back. Yeah.

Back, back, back. We don't ask for a lot big cat and sweat and John Croc needs to sweat as well. John Croc needs to sweat. Chris Berman needs to say back. Mark Tashare needs to be sitting there wearing a jock strap. He's not really saying much of anything string. We don't ask for a lot out of our sports, but I feel like the home run Derby is something that this was, this is really like the, the, the feather in his cap, the, the pièce de

résistance for Rob Manford be like, I fucked up the home run Derby. Yeah. We, we thought I could do that simple. But yeah, I mean, Peter Lanza was incredible and Dave Johnson was incredible. We have him on the show. I don't, I don't want to trash Peter Lanza because again, we, we do have his picture on the show. Great guy, all time baseball guy, and I like Peter Lanza, but Mancy is coming back from

colon cancer. Just, yeah. Can we just not let him win? Yeah. Like he was fucking awesome last night. Yeah. Yeah. I think though, I think Peter Lanza probably was like, look, finals.

That's good enough. Yeah. For the cancer survivor. Yeah. Like that's kind of like, Hey, you know, there was the moment. I gotta go beat you. Yeah. It's true.

It's true. He wasn't going to turn it off, but I think everybody at home was like, what, what a story it would be if Mancy, because it is like coming back from colon cancer. It's fucking incredible. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Insane.

And uh, Shohei Otani though, like, come on, we all turned in for you. We all tuned in for you and that was, he was ripping doubles and that's about it. Like, I know he went to, to the extra time, but like, come on man, you have to, you have to get out of the first round for the people. Yeah. I mean, Juan Soto did hit that bomb, 520 feet. Yeah. So the overunder.

Which cast it. The overunder on that. Yeah. That was very clutch. Overunder was 519 and a half feet, which I think would be the longest home run hit in the last 20 years. Like the stat caster. Why are you looking at me?

It's something like that. I don't know. Cause you knew the overunder. Oh yeah. Yeah. I knew that. But I did. I do not know how long the longest home run was.

Yeah. So that's how high the overunder was set. Cal Swarber's home run where he hit in the river in Pittsburgh. Yeah. That was 2015. That was actually the one against the Cardinals. That one hasn't landed. Okay.

So, but Juan Soto essentially hit the longest home run of the last five years and only beat the over by half a foot. Yes. And thank God I bet on it. Thank God. Thank God we got that. So way to go. Childish Bambino, which is a great nickname.

All right. What? How great would it have been if Castellanos had been playing? Yeah. That was just something tragic had happened. Yeah. I've been so wonderful. The kid definitely would have gotten hurt during his at bat.

Yeah. Absolutely. There would have been an ambulance on the field. Has it ever happened where in the home run derby somebody hits a home run and while the ball's still in the air hasn't landed yet, they hit another one out? Yeah. That's the whole. Oh, the Josh Hamilton.

That happened. Wait. That was a few years ago too. That was the whole thing with the Swarber as well. They were saying that it was a leave because there's an ump there who watches the whole thing, which I love, love, love the ump in the home run derby and the ref in the three point contest. Just sitting there and whistling it.

That guy just mail in city. But I guess what I'm asking is, has there ever been a player that's hit a home run that went so high that his next pitch that he hit had actually landed before the first. I don't know if that, that has happened, but I know that there was multiple. That was like a. Lapped himself. Yes. Yes.

All right. So other stories. We got Big Ben on a diet. One of the funniest, greatest stories out of training camp. Big Ben is officially year 18 in the NFL. He is going to die. He's looking to two after a long weekend of drinking and eating terrible food. And you say to yourself, you know what, I'm going to eat a salad on Monday.

Everything will, I'll maybe do 20 push ups. Wow. I'm, I'm back. That's what Big Ben is doing as a career where he's spent 17 years eating PF Chang and, and, and doing whatever he wants. And then year 18, he's like, why is Tom Brady playing still? Oh, because he eats healthy. You know what, honey, get me a vegetable.

Let me try one of these things. I don't know if you saw the report, Big Cap, but the report was that he is doing the TB 12 method, except the Ben Ralfus burger method is more strict than the TB 12 method. So it's, is it the Big Ben BB seven or is it BR seven? I think, I think it's a BR seven diet. I think it's basically like no meat before breakfast. It's probably just not eating. He's probably going to see how long he can fast.

Yeah. Like he's going to get to about 1045 in the morning. I want him very badly to come up with his own nutrition plan. Yes. It's like for every milkshake that you drink, you have to have a glass of water. Or at least a serum mist. Did you see the, so the report coming from this guy, Ryan Burr, who had one of the weirdest like conversations with himself about Big Ben, I'm going to read you just a couple tweets

because they're, they're very good. He started just as credentials real quick. I started covering Ben as a basketball player in high school. I was in Toledo, played wide receiver on a football team because a coach's son was a QB, Ben Rothsburg was QB senior, made most of it, covered him at Miami of Ohio. That was first transformation day after drafted by the Steelers, sent me to his house for the interview in Pittsburgh saw Rothsburg transform again into star QB. That didn't go well.

I mean, he won a Super Bowl, whatever motorcycle booze women. Okay. That's, that's the women part is doing a lot of work. Yeah. So then he, he quotes, he's quote, treating himself by the way, this whole thread. He doesn't know how to thread. He said then he married was forced to settle down. I'm sure Rothsburgers wife would love that.

What happened? Yeah. Wait. I'm trying to put together that order chronologically. So first it was motorcycles and women. No, no, no. First, first it was wide receiver to quarterback. Yeah.

Then. Okay. Yeah. No one's ever done that before. Correct way to go. Yes. Then there was a motorcycle and then a woman booze. A booze.

A booze in the middle. Motorcycle booze women. I think it's actually booze motorcycle booze women. Yes. And then after that it was, he gets married and then he settles down afterwards. Right. After he gets married. Yeah.

Then he married was forced to settle down. He's really overcoming a lot of adversity. Yes. Right. Okay. Hold on. But the narrative of beer guzzling, lazy Ben never went away. Okay.

Then we get to find me an athlete and profession, I'm quoting this exactly, find me an athlete and professional sport that gets blamed for everything as much as Ben Rothsburgers. From source in Rothsburgers camp, he is tired of it. His ego is tired of it. That's just Ben. Right. We can agree that the source in Rothsburgers camp, it's just like Ben goes upstairs and uses the landline.

Yeah. You admitted at the beginning of this that you've been covering him since he was like 14 years old. You know him well enough that he's just telling you this. Find me an athlete and professional sport that gets blamed for everything as much as Ben Rothsburgers. From source in Rothsburgers camp, he is tired of it. His ego is tired of it.

The Steelers don't run the ball, it's because Ben Rothsburgers only wants shotgun. If offensive line has trouble, Ben Rothsburgers holds ball too long. If defense struggles, Ben Rothsburgers scores too quick. Listen, I have seen the total A-hole Ben. I have seen the unprepared out of shape Ben. I am told for what it's worth, those former Ben's have been buried in a grave. Big Ben's big Ben's spirals are so tight that defensive backs can't help but intercept them once they get their hands on them.

They're so damn catchable, I'm sick of him getting blamed for those. That is fucking hilarious. I also, it's not, none of it is true. Good job Ben. Like, well I do think that like the first three things that you mentioned could probably be true. It's like, yeah, Big Ben doesn't want to do anything but run out of shotgun. Yes, that's true.

Yeah, but also Ben Rothsburgers does not get blamed more than any athlete in sports. That's just not true. I think he probably gets blamed more than any athlete on the Steelers in the last ten years because he's the quarterback of the Steelers. And I don't even think that's true because think about who they had. They had guys that everyone hated. No, it's still Ben. It's still Ben though.

No, but they had guys that ran, you know, I mean they, like, think about Antonio Brown, like they had, what, LaShaw McCoy, like they had guys, or maybe on Bell, sorry, maybe on Bell, they had guys that like everyone was like, that's their fault. Ben has actually gotten one of the greatest passes in sports because he won early and he's a great, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback. This isn't anti-Ben. This is just, this is like Ben going mega here where he's saying, listen, if you thought the injuries were not enough, well, here's also my ego has been bruised.

Ben's being a little extra right now. He's being a little extra. It's because he's starting to hear all the talk. It's about that time of year where people start to say Ben Rothsburgers is the worst quarterback in his division again. Yeah. That's always a hot button topic that you can say. And I just wanted on the record for the billionth time.

I like Ben Rothsburgers. I think he's fucking, first of all, he's funny. Second of all, I've always said that he's like, I would take him maybe not now, but for the majority of his career, I said I'd take him over anyone in terms of a fourth quarter situation. So Steelers fans that are going to get mad at us, Big Ben is funny to joke about. You have to be able to laugh at Big Ben. The fact that he was like, he did a documentary by himself that basically had a doctor saying

they've never seen an injury quite like what Big Ben went through. And then after that documentary was like, you know what? This isn't enough. I need to also have a report that I'm the most like criticized athlete of all time. What are we talking about? He's got now he's got a diet. Yeah, Big Ben, the martyr. It's the martyr diet, the BB seven method, which is just something green has to be in

your refrigerator all times. That's the kind of diet guy that Big Ben is. We've all been in that situation where you just open up the door and you're like, OK, there's a salad in my refrigerator. I'm currently on a diet. That's healthy. It just has to all he really needs to do is skim milk. That's that's the big Ben.

You know what? I'm going to skim and I will every now and then I'll eat a carrot. But I won't like it, but I'll eat it skim milk and unflavored lube. But it's seriously this is the most relatable that Big Ben has ever been because he is that like choosing year 18 to start a diet. You've never seen a Ben like this. I his metabolism can't work anymore. Like I'm I'm a later thirties male.

I know what metabolism does to you. Like there's just no way you could be like, hey, you know what? At thirty six, I'm about or thirty nine. I think he is now I'm thirty six. I'm about to get in the best shape of my life. Like, no, that's a fact that you will not. You can't you can do everything you want, but you will not be in the best shape. Do you think we'd be allowed to write his diet book like the TB 12 method?

If we just did it on our own and sold it, I think people would buy it. Yeah, it's a good name. It's like if you're going to Buffalo Wild Wings, get a Diet Coke. Yeah, if you're good, get still, get the wings and the and the fries and everything. No, I honestly think just no meat before breakfast should pretty much settle all his weight. Yeah, the the old classic. When you get a steak instead of the fries, go rice pilaf, not a salad, not a side salad, rice pilaf, no Cajun fries, no standard fries.

Yeah, you know, so you can ask for the old bay on the side and maybe sprinkle some on on your own. Yes, I would say, like, if you're going to a seafood restaurant, only one deep fried item per dinner. It can be your main dish, but just don't get the deep fried clams and the deep fried tilapia. Yeah, and the calamari. Well, calamari is not that's that's that's that's that's on the side. No, it's not trash, but Ben can get it. You know, I think like things like maybe two mozzarella sticks instead of six.

I would say never eat over half of any appetizer that's ordered to the table. You get you get up to forty nine percent. Forty nine percent. OK, all right. Forty nine percent. And I'm not talking about if it's you and your lovely bride, who you truly enjoy being married to, that you didn't have to settle down for. Yes. When you go out to dinner with her, like, yeah, you can go 65, 70 percent all day. Yes, because like you're a growing boy, still your big Ben, your athlete, you need to recover.

But if you go out with a family and you got like three kids around, limit yourself to forty nine. Oh, here's it. When you go to P.F. chains, because you go to P.F. Chang's every single week, maybe go with not the pan fried pot stickers to the boiled pot stickers. That's actually right there. I don't know. No, that would solve it all. You got the here's all. Here's all you have to do, Ben.

Just tell everybody that you bought an air fryer. It's so much healthier that way. You don't even have to do shit differently. Just be like, I got the air fryer. It changed my life. I just hope Big Ben never retires. I really truly don't. I'm going to be so sad when it happens because I need these stories forever.

He's the most criticized athlete I've ever seen in my life. It's not even close. Well, by far, like way more than LeBron James. Yeah, I mean, it's just it's the offensive line. You know, but no, it's actually Ben. He's more persecuted than Colin Kaepernick. He holds the ball too long. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's absolute fact.

Well, that is very true. Like the first two things that you read off were what he demands to have the ball run out of shotgun because he's too lazy to move his feet. True. And then the second one was would you just say a second? If O-line has trouble, Ben holds the ball too long. Also true. Yeah. Yeah. Those are just demonstrably true things. Yes. Also, I just love that his ego is tired of it.

That Ben got on the phone with this guy and was like, hey, listen, you know, listen, Ben can handle this, but Ben's ego is tired. You think Ben gets on the phone. He does like a different voice for his spokesperson. Like, hey, this is a. It's Jonathan from Ben's camp. He probably just uses kids' names. Yeah. I can't think of anything.

All right. One other thing before we get to hot seat culture on USA basketball sucks, we just suck. We you know what? We haven't flipped the switch yet, big cat. So but we are getting closer and closer to a not flip switchable scenario. I just think that we might like I'm now. OK, there's two, two, two ways to look at this. There's one. There's one.

Well, the most important one. We need Lou Dort. I know he's Canadian. Shut up. Coach K would never lose two games in a row. All right. He would absolutely never. You guys roast him day in and day out. He stops being the USA coach. They lose to Nigeria and Australia back to back.

OK, OK. Coincidence or is this all is this all shaping up for LeBron James to come back and become the hero that America needs. I LeBron could help this team. But he refuses to play. He's got a war. He's got the monsters to worry about. It's written on the Goon squad. It's got a great worry about.

But isn't this like the perfect scenario for LeBron to actually come back? Is like he's he's we're getting close to a point where we're begging LeBron James to like play for Team USA. Well, I don't even think it's LeBron. You just need a fucking point guard and you need a roster that isn't all scores. Ben Simmons and Carmelo. I know that's I said not all scores. Yes, it Ben Simmons.

Yeah, I know Ben Simmons. Yes, the it's also very funny that if you want, I watch a little of the game. It's it's actually what basketball should be because all the guys in the NBA are looking for all the fouls that they call in the NBA. And they don't call them in like the world in the FIBA, right? So they're doing the jump into a guy. They're doing the, you know, going up for a layup and throwing their head back. And the rest are just letting him play.

And it's fucking awesome. But the NBA players don't know what to do about it, because all these guys are like they're used to getting those calls. So I think that's one of the problems. And also, they just have a roster that's all scores. Every guy on that team, like what do they do? Number one, they score. You need to, you know, you need you need like a Marcus Smart, you need a Bobby Portis.

You need some of these guys, some grit and grind. Charles Oakley, Charles Oakley, bring him back. You need some guys that are going to get dirty with it. Lou Dort, Marcus Smart, get him to be an American. Grayson Allen, Grayson Allen would be great. You need some guys who don't care about getting shots. They just want to box out and you don't think it's anything to do with the coach that, you know, isn't used to coaching the pros and is used to coaching the

college players and bringing players together and coaching them as a team. You don't think that has anything to do with this. Greatest coach of all time. Coach K. No, you know what would happen, though? Thank God Coach K isn't coaching this team because he would have fucking collapsed on the floor and I can't coach these guys. That's a butterfly effect. They never would have lost these games.

But if they did, he would have fucking. But he would have. Heck, are you dismissing Nigeria's accomplishments? They've got some good players in Nigeria. Listen, losing one game, it's a it's a whatever. It's not like official sanctioned game. Losing once is fine. That happens. That happens all the time.

Losing two in a row. All right, but here's an exception. So here's the silver lining. Thank you to the USA because they lost these games so that the points read will be a lot lower. Thank you, Team USA. Also, I mean, you're competing against Deli, who's one of the greatest international players of all time.

His game was really designed to play at the Olympic level. Here's about gold. You need guys. You just the roster makes notes. I there's no one else they can pick from. But like when you saw who's out there, they all like they they're all stars on their teams. Is Chris Paul going to play?

No, fuck. Chris Middleton and but Yanis. I asked about that question. Yeah, can Yanis play Yanis? We need Yanis. No, Chris Middleton is going to play. And I want to say Devin Booker, which that's another score. So I don't know.

Maybe drew holidays on the team as we got to we got to blow this team up. We do. I think we have to blow it up already. You know what they should do is they should just send. They should send Baylor. Send the Baylor National Championship team. I thought you were going to say send AJ titties. No, have roads go back to AJ titties. Have them suck a championship right into this.

No, no, that wasn't what I was going to say. Just get a point card. Just get a point card. Yeah, you could you could get a point card, I guess. Have have Lonzo go on that team and blow the whole team. No, oh, oh, play point guard for the team. Got it. Have we got to get like we need a PMT the PMT stats account?

Does he still do stats? How many times is PFT mentioned AJ titties? You guys just have been you've been bonked crazy recently, though. You bonked me 17 million times on Sunday. For what? For everything I said, so you did the same to me. Addison Ray. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you're right.

I did. Yeah. But to be fair, at the time, I thought she might have been 17. I never thought you were 17, for at least for three years, I haven't. All right, let's get to our hot seat cool drone. Hot seat cool thrones brought to you by our friends at Moulson Cours time for that beer. We're ready to go. Listen, how many times during quarantine did someone say to you something

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I don't think so. Do you know how I sweat in this beer? Yes. OK. Those things look like they could contain some some very long time. Yeah, like, yeah, yeah. Anyway, we're asking if the beer is still frozen. No, I said there's there's a refrigerator hasn't been refrigerated yet. Like us personally have a refrigerator in Hanks.

This is like ice in there. This is like Blake Bortles seeing snow for the first time. He's like, it's wet. Mm hmm. Right. Anyway, my hot seat is our darling cake marsh. Oh, yeah, for a couple reasons. The first is we are our rematch is back this Thursday and stool streams. So his run is the best in the office will be over. Once that's over, go make your picks and play Barcelap.

And secondly, he's on a work trip right now in Arkansas is with the muss bus and Barcel bench mob. And a video came out of him dapping up the muss bus coach muss. And it's one of the worst visuals I've seen from any member of this podcast in a long time. And I've seen some some really bad. Oh, definitely one of the worst and shake visuals. Oh, my God.

So I asked Big Cat to watch it live and he's watching live now. What is this? So can you break it down? Yeah, what happens is Jake goes in. It looks like it looks like muss goes in for the handshake and Jake just goes for a hug like a buckle like he was. Jake's trying to put his belly button on must on most belly. I'm going to. All right.

So here's the problem. So must gave him the shirt. So Jake is like, hey, we're not doing a handshake because you have a shirt in your hand so I can't shake your hand. He's got the shirt in his right hand. He gives him the shirt and then must give him a little like thanks for coming out. And Jake just like collapses in his arms to be to be held softly by muss. What is that?

So so what happens is Jake, it looks like he switches. OK, he's got to. All right. No, Jake gets the shirt in his right hand and then quickly switches the shirt to his left. So Jake's ready. But Jake wanted to be held by. Yeah, so Jake like kind of reset to do a handshake. Yeah, and muscle man just gave him like the I'm going to tap your shoulder

and Jake just put his whole body on him. He just call he literally he's like he he's like, let me just be little spoon for a minute. One one one little second. Hold me and tell me everything's going to be OK. And then this is maybe the most relatable part about this whole thing. After an awkward encounter or a missed handshake, Jake takes three steps in the wrong direction.

Yeah, realizes that he's going the wrong way, has to turn around and walk back. But he lets he lets coach go in front of him. So it's not that awkward. Yeah, like they're talking to each other after the weird and Rico's carrying a huge big box because Jake can't hold it. That this might his alpha status might be in question. And like I said, Thursday, we're playing ping pong. This this this could all be what I need. Oh, my God.

I also the other funny thing I saw from this trip is that there are in the gym. They're like with the team, you know, on on scene. And Jake's wore a college a collared shirt both days because he's a big J. Yeah, he is. Yeah, I respect. Big trip for him. Right. Everyone else is wearing T-shirts. All the other guys just T-shirts and shorts because you're in a basketball gym in Arkansas and Jake's still still got the jeans casual big J.

I mean, in the best J. Nonetheless, the best part about this is I love Jake. I truly do. Jake, when something like this happens, he will be replaying it in his head for 24 hours, like mumbling under his breath. Like, I can't believe I didn't screw up that handshake. I can't believe that I softly fell into Muscleman's arms because I wanted to be held by him. I can't believe that I kind of would have wished he kissed me on the top of the head. I can't believe it.

Like he'll see he'll be just be saying that to himself constantly. He can't get over these type of things. So no one mentioned it. Hank, you're going to have to go in for a hug if you beat him. Yeah, yeah. You had to hold him. No, handshake hug. Yeah, just pull it back. If you see if you're in Arkansas or Alabama right now, is there on the bump with the democracy tour?

Oh, yes, the Buak as they're on the democracy tour. If you see Jake, instead of going up and giving him a handshake, just give him a hug and just hold him. He wants to be held. It's not your fault, Jake. He's a little spoon. It's not your fault. Damn, that was awkward. Yeah, anyway, and my cool throne is tortoises. I saw this. So I don't know what event.

It looked like it was at like the dog show, but it wasn't at the dog show. But it looks like a event that looks similar to the dog show. We tipped you off to that it wasn't the dog show. Well, no, but you know what I'm saying, dogs? Well, no, but the venue of it. Yeah, like, I don't know what other event. I don't know what dog show vibes. I'm looking at the video does look like the dog show.

The background, yes. And also on the floor, yes, like the little detent set up. Yeah, I don't know why you guys are mocking me. How else would you describe what that place looked like? Because there was a rabbit and there was a turtle, but no dogs. Zero dogs. But I'm trying to set the scene.

Okay, I'm set. Describe what it looks like. It looks like the dog show. No dogs. That's exactly what it looks like, which is. Just can't have a dog show with no dogs. It's a convention. Well, yeah, but what the like, again, I, my point was to say, I don't know why they had this tortoise in the hair race,

because that's not something you just do for no reason. And that's not something that people would come. Did you see the numbers on it? The whole video? Anyway, back to my, the point is that they did, whatever this fucking event was, did a tortoise and a hair race. And the, the, the tortoise won. I'm a, I, everyone.

The hair just stopped Dennis track. Everyone knows I'm a terrible gambler. If they did it again, I would bet on the hair. Like he, his first step was so fast. Yeah. I was like, how can he lose this? I mean, you have to take the hair every time. Because I think if they did this race 99 times,

I think the hair wins 98 times. That's how dumb we are. That a child, a story you learn when you're four years old, we have not internalized. Definitely not. PFT, a hot sea cool throne, Hank, both low key bangers. This turtle is kind of a dog show, dog show thing. That's a fact.

The turtle is kind of a try hard. I agree. Like what other event is this at? Like seriously, I just get yard. I, I really hope that it was a dog show. And this was like halftime of the dog show. Yeah, that would make sense more than anything else. That would be so good.

Vindication. My hot seat is the entire PGA. Not, not because Brooks is about to be on a war path because he is. And because a reporter called Bryson Brooks by mistake today. Which I'm sure was completely a mistake. The guy sounded like he was from England or Ireland. So I can't imagine he's, he's like up to speed on our trolling of Bryson DeChambeau. But the real reason why the PGA is on the hot seat and all other golfers,

besides Patrick Reed, is that his wife has started to tweet again from the burner. Oh, nice. It's been a while. She's been offline for a while, but she had to log on today. And you tell me, because it's still unconfirmed that this is his wife. But I mean, let's get real. Okay, the handle is use golf facts, all uppercase facts. This is what we found when, when he got criticized for rules and fraction.

He was, she was tweeting about Rory and all that stuff. Yeah. So the account tweeted today, how many times does Patrick Reed have to start late slash early? Okay. Not, not, not just all the majors, but regular events too. And then she tagged all the major championships. In his last three majors, he started at 4.15pm, 5.15pm, and now 3.15pm. T times by world rank.

And if it's a draw, let's see it. Wait, but aren't T times like Thursday, you're late and then, oh, okay. So she's saying late and then early the next day, because they do flop. Like if you go late on Thursday, you go early on Friday. Wow. They, I'm not going to, I'm not going to lie. I just, I know that it's used golf facts, but those are facts. They are facts.

Right. And like, honestly, it's, it's relationship goals to have somebody that will defend you like Patrick Reed's wife, defense him. Yeah. I mean, they're, they're trying to take down Patrick Reed via T times. That's pretty clear. Also, shout out Brooks. We just have to say it, a consummate pro.

He said that if he and, you know, Bryson are on the Ryder Cup team together, they will, he'll find a way to get along for a week. Oh yeah. He said, they're not going to be team. He said, I can, I can find, I'm pretty sure I can find a way to get along with just about anybody for a week. Yeah. Ringing endorsement.

Yes. Of their friendship. That's very nice. I honestly think that Bryson is the last person that Brooks would want to hang out with for a week. Yes. Like literally the last person on earth. Yes. Yes.

So yeah, that's my hot seat. Also shout out Patrick Reed's wife. I just think that it's sweet that she supports her husband. Because literally nobody else in the world will. And then my, what? That's a bonk? I didn't bonk you. That's a bonk for saying like I'm, I'm a fan of their loving relationship.

See, I agree with you that bonks have gotten out of control, but you also have gotten very horny. I'm not horny at all. I'm not horny. Nope. Maybe once or twice a day, but not all day. My cool throne is Taro Pryor. Taro Pryor is, he's asking for the 2010 wins for Ohio State to be restored to the university. Which I guess makes sense.

Agreed. Looking back on it, that was like the biggest nothing story that's maybe ever happened in college sports that had the biggest ramifications. So Taro Pryor got tattoos and then it basically took out Ohio State for a couple years. Yes. Jim Trestle had to quit and he was known as the senator because he had like the squeaky clean squeaky clean image that he had going on. And so yeah, tattoos brought down Jim Trestle in Ohio State and now Taro Pryor wants it back.

And honestly, if I'm Taro Pryor, why not? Yeah, it did lead to Urban Meyer and then Ryan Day. So they can't be that upset overall. But yeah, I agree. He should get it back. Right. Absolutely. And I also respect on Taro Pryor's part, tastefully waiting for like a week after Reggie Bush was

like, hey, give me my Heisman back. Knowing that everybody was like, yes, Reggie Bush is the person who deserves to be sold. Heisman first. And then Taro was like, also just like tack my name onto that list if you could. All right. My hot seat is quarterback rankings because Billy dropped his a tier system and it's fire. It's just fire. Go read it right now.

Burn it. Um, there are a couple of things of note and then Billy, you can chime in wherever. One quarterback of all time was not tier A. Did you did you know that Jarrod Goff is not Jarrod Geoff? Yeah. I had a spell correct correct thing going. Got it. It auto correct.

Got it. Got it. So Billy, you're supposed to say that was an homage to PFT. Yes. That always works. Yes. Yes. And then thanks, Billy.

Two, I really liked what you did with the Saints situation. You said that you couldn't find a picture of James and Taysam. So you just did a picture of Drew Brees instead. And then you said, whatever is happening at the Saints organization, I put James and Taysam on the same level. I think Sean Payton is going to tank for a high draft pick. James's workout videos aren't helping. Does anyone think that James Winston can actually guess?

He's a Hall of Famer. Yes. He's a Hall of Famer. Actually, he's a Hall of Famer. The one of James Winston guy came out. Yes. He, all he does all day is name search. And that's,

And he just, was DMing you. You ever heard about defending the wall? That's what he does for James Winston. You don't think that his workout videos are helping at all? Dude, he made a three-point shot with a football with his eyes closed. He couldn't see in the first place. No, he can now.

He got basic. Now he's adapted. He was, he was literally born into the darkness, Billy. You merely inherited it. Yeah. What is, if they share the same letter, they're equal but separate tears? Oh, so like I have some of the tears.

I like two B's. And it's more of like summer rising stars, while others are like fallen angels. And they're eclipsing. So the tears don't matter or they do? They do, but they're separate. So Billy just kind of took groups of quarterbacks that he thinks are similar in certain ways,

and put them together, and then kind of stacked them up from best groups to worst groups. Well, because guys with longer careers have more of an upside. Oh, so isn't RG3, he's, he's just got signed by ESPN? Well, that's the, All right, bidding war. He hasn't made a decision yet. No, no, he did, I thought.

I thought it was announced today. No, that's the break. Did I watch that? That was yesterday. Yeah. PFT, come on. Damn. It's been so much time getting horny, you missed it.

I was probably jacking off. Wait, so that means those, that was my break the glass in case of emergency, which is the best backup. And to Sean Watson is Jay, the last year? Well, what is it? That's a, I didn't read it. Should probably read it?

Like, yeah. Okay. Okay, hang on. I'm going to read it right now. The last year. Did you find out about? I don't see anything about RG3. Uncertain futures.

Nice, Billy. Garoppolo, Locke and Watson. That's a, that's a tough break to have Garoppolo and Locke in the same group as Watson. I didn't want to, I just kind of want to sneak that one in there and just not deal with it. What about no Teddy Bridgewater? You just hand in starting job to do Locke?

Yeah. Okay. Honestly, the program I was using to make these tears, like didn't have some of the pictures. The advanced software system. Yeah, the advanced software system. Yeah. That you're making some of.

Pete, please get me a computer. Okay, I'm looking more at it here. The ugly ducklings. You've got, you've got Joe Burrow as an ugly duckling. We had him. Dude, he had his teeth straightened. Did you see those, the choppers? No, no, no, they're not ugly.

He's just like. His hair is awesome. Their first seasons like may have not been considered beautiful, but they can still blossom into swans. I thought, I thought Herbert had a pretty beautiful Ricky, Ricky Yardini. Which tears he on? The ugly duckling.

Is that because of his haircut? Yeah. Justin Herbert's definitely higher than the ugly duckling. But that's okay, but you know what? We discussed. This is why we did it. You get mission accomplished. You know, I sort of did.

But like, his record didn't reflect that. People are going to get mad at you for Ryan Tannehill. There are a lot of Ryan Tannehill fans out there that aren't going to appreciate you put him in the Met here with Ben Rottelsberger, the most persecuted quarterback in sports, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Matt Ryan, Kirk Cousins, and Derek Carr. I did a little clickbait thing here where I purposely put

like the big fan bases, beloved franchise quarterbacks into the Met category to piss them off. Ah, okay. You're basically invalidated yourself as a blogger. Correct. But the clicks still count. Yeah, man. Clicks still count.

Cash's checks. I like that you put Kirk Cousins, all things considered pretty close to hanging it up. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Good job, Billy. That was a good block.

All right. My cool throne is the baseball having a marketing problem because the Shohei Otani. This actually is a mark that Shohei Otani has reached his highest level because now the discussion becomes, are they marketing him correct and is he marketable? And then you saw obviously Stephen A. Smith

with a stupid fucking take. But this is like, we've had this conversation for a very long time with Mike Trout. What's, why can't we market Mike Trout? Maybe because it's just baseball. Yeah. Maybe that's what it is. They're both playing the small market of Los Angeles.

But it's just like, we always have this conversation. It's like, why can't we market stars? I think this one's a little bit different because right now it's like Shohei Otani is the face of baseball. Everyone's talking about it too. There's no more discussion of, is Mike Trout the face of baseball?

Who's the face of baseball? Even while Mike Trout was the face or the gross chin of baseball, we were all talking who's the next face of baseball. We were looking forward to whether it was like Okunya or Sodor, one of the younger guys, one of the like Slam Diego players, any of the sons out there.

We're looking for the next generation of the face of baseball. Now we have one. Now I think it's like set in stone that Shohei Otani is the most electric player in baseball by far. But my point is that baseball, the way baseball used to be is never coming back.

And that is like, it's never going to be a national, everyone talking about it, like home on Derby in the late 90s. It's never going to be that. Like it just isn't. It's just not, there's too many sports, it's fragmented, NFL has gotten bigger, all these things.

So it's so stupid because all I see is this conversation of, why can't they market, why aren't we making a bigger deal of Shohei Otani? Either you know about Shohei Otani being electric because you follow baseball even a little bit, or you don't follow baseball at all.

So then you just don't care. Yeah, I think that, I think that we are making exactly as big of a deal as we should about Shohei Otani. That's what I'm saying. Which is a big one. Yeah. But it's never going to be,

like people want it to be this deep, like they want it to be Maguire Sosa again. We got it. We're never going back to that time. We got to figure out a Colin Coward analogy for that. It's like baseball, baseball thinks it's a Lamborghini. Right.

But you know what? Sometimes having a Toyota Camry, new model, all the bells and whistles. Not bad. Going to last you for 300,000 miles. Yeah. Take you to and from your next divorce hearing. But that's all you need out of a car.

It's every time I see someone be like, hey, why aren't we making a bigger deal of Shohei Otani? It's like, we are. He's incredible. He's electric. If you follow baseball even a little bit, you know about him. You think he's awesome.

You think he's incredible. You want to watch his at bats. And then there's just less people who follow baseball than there were 30 years ago. So that's just the reality of it. It makes sense. But also he's trying to fix out the marketing problem by doing what we all said that he should have done,

which is get rid of the seven inning double headers. And then also he's considering banning the shift next year, which I think that'd be awesome to do. Yes. I actually like the seven inning double headers. You do? Yeah. Wow.

I do. I think double headers are cool. They should be more double headers. I respect just the legacy of the game and the numbers. They should be more double headers. Billy, hot seat, cool throne. My hot seat is Rick Bettino. Grease was eliminated from pool play in the Olympics.

Can he coach us? Can Yanis play for US? The Olympics haven't started. Well, the FIBA pool play. They got eliminated. They can't play in the Olympics. They're not going to be in the Olympics? No.

Wow. There you go. So I was kind of hoping that. And I can say, Rick Bettino is a great coach. He is. I think he could have. Could have helped to have Yanis. It would have been hilarious if Grease beat the US.

Anthenosis. Anthenosis. That's what I was hoping would happen. No, Slovenia is going to beat us. With Luca. Cool throne. Respect the cup people. The Tampa Bay Lightning dented the cup pretty bad.

All the respect the cup people came out. The trophy lovers. Yeah, respect the cup. It gets like fucked every year. Exactly. Yeah, the best trophy in the world. The Stanley Cup is, without a doubt, the most abused trophy in sports.

Correct. And that's what makes it so wonderful. Yes. The stories it could tell. Yeah. Exactly. It's a cup. Good talk.

And that was my hot seat. Cool throne. Good job, Billy. All right. Let's get to our interviews. We have first up Christian Yelich. And we got some who we got a word from one of our sponsors before we get to Christian Yelich.

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2018 MVP, no big deal. He was not in the home run derby because he doesn't hit home runs anymore, but he's still number one in our hearts. Christian, thank you for joining us. So I was looking at it the first time you ever joined us on the show. When the home run derby bet was made,

was 2017 all star game in Miami. After that point, you were maybe the best baseball player in the world for like a year and a half. So I'm hoping that you reclaim that magic and you're back to being the best baseball player in the world. Yeah, no, it was the, it was the 18 all star game in DC. And yeah, you were right. Like literally the first.

No, no, it was Miami. No, it was Miami in the second half of 17. And then all of 18, you were. No, it was the second half of 18 all of 19 because that was the first. We did it in the lobby in or like by the elevator in DC. That was by the elevator in Miami though. That was Miami.

No, because I didn't make the all star game in 17. I wasn't, I was, I lost my wallet on the, on the, at the W on South Beach, the 2017 all star break. I lost all my, I lost all my shit on the beach. So I know I wasn't with you guys. It was like in the hallway. Yeah, it was, it was in the hallway of one. I thought that was Miami.

Okay. So I stand very corrected, but the point still stands that. You're right about the rest though. Yeah. The PMT bump. So let's actually start with that. So this season, maybe not the best start for you, but take me back two months, two months into the season, May 23rd, you hit your first home run.

Took you two months. How'd that feel? Pretty good. It took me two months. I wasn't really, I wasn't really playing. I only probably had 10 games at the time just cause my back was all jacked up. But yeah, you gotta get on the board, man. That's why I'm coming back with you guys.

You know, I need the, I need the bump again. We kind of, we wrote it out for a pretty good heater. And then, you know, now we need a little refresher. I feel like you need us to make another unreasonable bet because you are a spiteful guy. I like you, but I actually really hate you because you've made my life very stressful for the last couple of Junes.

Thank, thankfully this year it wasn't so much the case, but there were some legitimate conversations that we've had to have on this show about, you know, eating each other's assholes. And I don't know. I feel like you kind of thrive on that. You like seeing us uncomfortable. So is there, I mean, I can let you make the call.

Like, do you want to put us in a bad situation again? Give us something to bet on? I didn't, I mean, you guys put yourselves in a bad situation. You know, you kind of do that to yourselves if I recall correctly. But you know what? One of the biggest, biggest regrets I have so far in my career is not being able to do that home run derby.

I don't want to do that so bad in 2019. I actually kind of got hurt practicing for it. And I remember texting with you and just being like, dude, I blew out, getting ready for it. Like, I don't think I'm going to be able to do it. Like, I'm sorry. I know how much everybody was looking forward to that, not only at Barstool, but just like everybody

that follows this show or anybody that had any kind of idea what was going on and what was being said. So I'm still bummed about that. And maybe we'll be able to do it one day because it's a career-long bet, if I recall correctly. It is. You never said like, next home run derby. You just said, ever win a home run derby.

It is. And I remember when you texted me about your back and I think I put on the fakest, oh man, I'm so sorry, like, response of all time where I was like, damn, that really sucks. Meanwhile, I'm like, fuck yes. Hopefully your back never gets better. But no, I-

I remember Dave was all pissed too because like, I think you guys had everything set up. Everyone was going to watch it and like live stream it, everything like that. And I was like, dude, I got to pull the shoot. Like, I really can't swing the bat right now. Yes. So I do fully expect you to be in a home run derby at some point.

You will have to hit some more home runs though. So maybe we're hurting ourselves. Yeah, I'm going to have to play better in like the actual. I'm going to have to play better in like the actual games before I can do the home run derby. Yeah. But that'll happen again eventually, I think. So we'll make this happen.

I was talking to the guy yesterday that was supposed to throw to me in that derby. He was just texting me like reaching out, saying hello. And I was like, hey, man, we got to do this like at some point before it's all said and done. And we got at least seven more years left. So at some point, at some point, we're going to, we're going to get out there.

I hope. All right. So we also have to talk about the clip that went semi viral last week. You're, you got, you got tagged out making a slight move to second base. And I've never seen you that bad. You were very mad. So I, well, come on. You, you made a little bit of a move.

I watched the video. You deeped. You did. You did a little. Yeah. You did a little like shimmy. What's Shakira? The hips don't lie.

It's open to interpretation. I believe that's what it says in the rulebook too. It's a judgment call. And also, we agreed, we disagreed to disagree on what was, what was seeing, what was being said. And then one of us had to go home early. I think what made you mad wasn't necessarily that you got called out. It's the emphaticness with which the umpire called you out.

Like he punched you out. He wound up for that. He was really excited to make that call. I think that's what rubbed you the wrong way. It was a lot of things. It was a, I think that was the third game of the series. Or it was just a lot of buildup that led to it. It wasn't just like that one instance.

You know what I mean? But I don't really want to say too much on it because I'm probably already going to get fined a decent amount for my on field antics there. So we'll kind of just, you know. Well, I, wait, do you still get paid if you get kicked out of a game? I think so. I've only been kicked out of a game twice.

But this one, this one was definitely my, my better one of the two. Like if you're going to get thrown out of the game, like I guess fully commit to getting thrown out of the game. Yeah. It wasn't like, it wasn't even like, I didn't really even realize like, it was like a full blown like blackout snap. Like I don't really remember it.

I was shocked. All of it. Yeah, I was shocked. In there. Like so people always think I'm the super like laid back happy go lucky guy. But I'm kind of not, there's times where I am. But I, I'm pretty, I get pretty fired up out there sometimes. And people that play with me and like know me on,

in a baseball sense, no, that's in there. But I'm like, my day to day life, I'm pretty laid back guy. Like to kind of just chill. But, but that's also like, it's funny when everyone's like, Oh man, I thought he was solely back. Well, he's a professional athlete and he's really good. You have to have at least some competitive streak in you. What, what though, you can't talk about what happened on the field.

But after, do you just go and take a shower and hang out or did you go home? Like what, what is it? Do you, is it fun to watch the game on in the clubhouse by yourself? Yeah. So I didn't go home. I think it was the sixth inning, May fifth or sixth inning, somewhere in the middle of the game. My other ejection was the bottom of the first. So I actually had like the whole game to watch. So this one was at least in the middle.

But councilor manager, he got thrown out right before that, like the inning before. So he was already in the clubhouse at his desk. And to get back to our locker and you have to walk down like a hallway and it's past like the manager's office. So he was sitting in there and I walked by his office and I was like, well, shit, like, what's up, man? Look at us. What a thought.

We did, did you watch with him? No, I didn't watch with him because we were, we were still losing the time. And when I got thrown out of my other game, I, the manager also got thrown out with me mattingly and I watched the whole game with him in his office. And we ended up blowing like a five run lead and watching, watching the implosion of a five run lead with your manager while you're both kicked out of the game was pretty uncomfortable experience. That's interesting.

So I was like, you know, so I was like, all right, and then we tied it up. I was like, oh, I'm probably, I'll just say what's up the counts. Now hopefully we make a comeback and I'll, I'll watch it with him. Like as I was going to his office, we gave up a Homer and I turned around, went back to the training room and it's like, my post game thing, our GM was working out in the weight room. So I talked to kind of, I talked to him kind of about like what happened and and all that. So I was just pretty much hanging out in the shorts and the t-shirt and the clubhouse the whole time.

And that was that. It's pretty uneventful. Like I was, I was pretty, I was calm again after, after I got thrown out, kind of just like walk back in and there's some, some of our pitchers were in the locker room, talk to them for a little bit. And that was that. You feel like you have a little extra swag. And then it kind of went all over the internet. Like everybody was texting me the rest of the night.

Kind of went everywhere because it was a pretty good snap. Yeah. Are you walking around like a badass? Like you feel like, Hey, don't fuck with me. I'm liable to just snap on somebody. Not really. Cause it's not really, it's, it's not something that I do. And the, and the umpire, he was the home plate umpire the next day for us.

So we went up there. We kind of both had a, like a pretty good laugh about it. My first step back the next day, he was like, what's up? Like, how's it going, man? What up? He's like, are we good? I was like, yeah, we're good. Like, you know, shit happens by bad.

And then we just carried on. It was fine. But I think me and him will probably have a pretty good relationship, at least from my end, like the rest of my career. It's like, it's a good laugh. And yeah, I don't know. We'll see if he hates me. And I said some pretty, I kind of went in on him a little bit.

But yeah, it seemed like it's, it's a classic case of guys being dudes. That's how we apologize. You just give us like a day and then we see each other again. And you just look at the other person, you're like, we cool. And yeah, yeah, we're cool. And you don't have to actually talk about what happened or your feelings or anything like that. You just kind of acknowledge, okay, enough time has passed

where I'm not mad anymore. It was like the prototypical example of that actually. It was like, hey, we good? Yeah, we're good. Yeah, that shit got crazy. We both said stuff. Yeah, you know, nobody, nobody even like addressed it. Like when no one was like, no one was like my bad or anything like that.

It was just like, we good? Yeah, we're good. All right, cool. Have a good one. And then we play the end. My favorite is when, when you're like, yeah, you know, like two alpha males sometimes get together. A lot of stuff gets said, you know, we butt head sometimes.

And so it's a way that you can like apologize to another man, but also make yourself seem like the biggest alpha in the world. Yeah, to where you're like, I'm like, hey, I'm sorry. Yeah, you don't know, you never, never apologize. Who's two competitive dudes? Like, what are you going to do? Shit happens, you know? It's interesting though that the two times you've gotten kicked out,

your manager has also been kicked out. Are you a little bit of a brown nose? You like a teacher's pet? The first time I got kicked out first and then like 30 seconds later, Donny was yelling at the umpire too and he got kicked out. This time, council was arguing and call. I think it was during a pitching change and he got thrown out and then an inning later I got thrown out.

So at least this time, like my actions weren't the reason why the manager got thrown out, which makes me feel a little bit better. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he got chucked earlier. So I felt better about that one. All right.

So, you know, your season hasn't been going as well as you'd like, but you're going to turn it around. The Brewers though are in first place. I mean, the Cubs are done. So I don't even have like animosity. I did have a question though that game two weeks ago, when the Cubs were up seven, nothing, and the Brewers won 15 to seven. What the hell gets said in the, in the, like when you come off the field,

after giving up a seven spot in the first inning, are you guys all saying to each other, Hey, we're still in this, but not really believing it. And then you actually ended up winning the game by a lot. Well, like in that situation, you're like, well, shit, like a day game last day of the series down seven, nothing. You're like, well, that wasn't a great start. And then you kind of come in and you're still,

you still haven't hit yet though, you know, so there's nine innings to play. And you're like, well, let's try and get like one or two here and like see if we can keep an interesting chip away. Never know what can happen. Like, you know, like, Hey, we can't really let these guys score too much more because we're already chasing seven. So what everyone was saying was like, Hey, like,

let's just try and get one up there or two up there and see what happens. And I think we did get one or two in the first. And then we got a bunch back in the second or maybe it was tied in the second. And then yeah, I've never seen a game like that though in my career. Like it was, that whole series was pretty wild. Things that happened in it. And yeah, I don't, I don't even really know how to describe that game.

Like you said, I, it was just, it was a football board, Ferris Packers, Ferris Packers game. Yeah. I was listening on the radio and I was like seven nothing. And I was like, Oh, Cubs are back. And then two seconds later was seven, six. And then you guys put up eight runs in the fourth inning. I was like, okay, the season is pretty much over. And that was kind of like the end of the Cubs season in terms of like

their losing streak and everything going poorly. But I just, it always is funny to me when you see a score like that and you're like, it must be so weird to be in the clubhouse for that. Or, you know, the dugout, it's like a softball game broke out where it's just everything is working and everyone's scoring and innings are lasting like an hour long. Yeah. Well, I mean, it was like two and a half hours

and we're in the third inning or ever. So we're like, well, if we're going to play seven hour game here, we might as well win. Yeah. How many games per year do you actually get down about a loss because there's so many games that are played. Like you can't take every loss super competitively, right? Or are there some guys that actually do hate losing that much

that even over the course of a long season, it really affects them? I mean, different losses definitely hurt more. Like that game, if they kept going south and you lose by 15, you're just like, well, that was a shitty day, but it's a baseball season. Like it's going to happen. You know, you're going to get blown out a couple of times a year, even if you're playing really good teams.

But games where you're up like three to two in the eighth inning or three, two in the ninth and you end up losing a tough one to somebody in the division. Like that game definitely hurts a lot more than the one that was just like, well, that was just a shit show. And what are you going to do? Like we'll get them tomorrow. So they have varying degrees.

If you have losing streaks or just the time in the year when you lose, like they can hurt a little bit for sure. I mean, even though baseball is a game where you're guaranteed to basically lose at least 60 games a year, you know, even if you're on the best team in the game. So yeah, they hurt a little bit different depending on the time. What happens on a long losing streak? Are there guys like, let's say, so I think the Cubs lost like 10,

10 in a row, 10 and 11, whatever it was. And I'm sure maybe in the Marlins, you were on a team that had some of those losing streaks. Are there moments where different guys, like maybe seven games in, a guy tries to give a raw, raw speech and it doesn't work. And it's like, well, fuck, what do we do now? Like how does that, how does that play out when you're deep in a losing streak?

Yeah. I mean, there's like, when you're, I think the most we lost with the Marlins, I think was 13 maybe. It's when, it's when our manager got fired and then the GM of the team became the manager. I don't know if you remember that, that time. So yeah, we lost 13 in a row, I think, right after that happened. And there's different phases of it. Like the first, like when you lose like five or six,

you're like, oh man, like shit, like everybody's like, all right, we kind of got to turn this around. It's getting, it's going south. Like we need to, and then it gets like seven, eight, nine, 10. And then you're just like, what the fuck, dude? And it just, you seem like you find a different way to lose every night. Like it's impossible to win.

Like you, like you said, you're up by seven and you lose or you're winning by like one or two. And somebody gets like a, you got like bases loaded two outs and someone's bat shatters and the game winning runs scores on that play. And you're like, we just, we literally just cannot win. And sometimes it feels that way. And then one day it turns and you can rattle off seven or eight.

I just, that's why baseball season so many, there's so many ups and downs in it, you know, or there's times in the season where it feels like you're never going to lose again and you're on a 10 game winning streak and you cannot lose. Like no matter what you do, you can't lose. And then you go through a week where you cannot win. It doesn't matter who you're playing. You could have, you know, the best pitchers in baseball going

for you playing against the worst team in the game and you just can't win because baseball is a freak game sometimes and weird stuff happens. So guys try everything. There's, there's pump up speeches. There's guys are doing crazy things, trying crazy things, anything to just try and break the streak and to win. But if you're going to give a pump up speech, the

a word of advice is to like always wait till like your ace is pitching that night or you've got like the best, the best chance to win or you're not going against the other teams ace. You know, you got to save, you got to, you got to have some feel with your speech because if you go out there and you're like, I don't know if you're facing like Kershaw or something that night and you're on like a seven game losing streak and like guys, today's the day we turn it around and he goes like eight Shetty with

14 Ks or something like that. And then you're like, Oh God, no, that didn't work. Way worse situation than, than you had going into the night. I want to talk to you real quick about the Bucks because you kind of got, I don't want to say overshadowed, but it seems like David Bhaktiari has a new favorite beer chugging buddy and that's Dana beers. Have you been invited back to the playoffs? Have you been invited to a Bucks game this post season

to show off your drinking skills? Yeah, our schedule just hasn't really lined up for it. We've been out of town or we've been playing at the same time. They're playing right now, but it's also a break. So I'm not in town. I was texting D-Bock about it. He's asked if I was going to go to the game or not. What we really need to see is a Dan Vogelbach, Bhaktiari chug off.

I think, I think that would be, I've seen, I've seen Voguee hammer a beer before because I just wanted to see how fast he could chug it. And I'm not going to lie, he's going to get, he'd give D-Bock a run for his money. I'm not saying he'd win because I respect D-Bock's abilities. I've seen it up close as well. Pretty impressive stuff. But I think the state of, state of Wisconsin and beer chugging fans alike would really,

would really need to see it. We need to, we need to settle that one of these days. I was trying, I was hoping we could make that happen. I think I'm not sure we're game six lines up. If we make it to game six, I think we may be able to go or not. You guys have a game, game six at home. Maybe they'll move it. I don't know.

That would be electric though. Is it a day game, day game, night game? It's a night game. Tuesday night. They have to move that. They would have to. They would have to move that. The only thing I would tell you is,

next time can you, can you make sure that the beer is topped off? Well, so what happened with that was I didn't know, I didn't know I was just drinking a beer, you know? And so I didn't really know I was going to chug it. And, and D-Bock like elbowed me, he goes, Hey bro, you're up in like five seconds. And so I'd already had like three quarters of a beer, or maybe it was even half.

I was like, well, what do you mean? Cause I was, I was on the, I was on the IL at the time. So I wasn't really playing. And I was like, I don't know if this like the greatest look right now. If I'm not, if I'm not playing and I'm hammering beers at the Bucks game and our GM and everybody was there. And then I was on the screen and kind of played it off as like, I was meant to do that the entire time.

I kind of gave it the, the stand up and the walk around. And I didn't even know if I could chug it honestly. Cause I hadn't chugged a beer in a really long time. But I saw what happened with, with Aaron. And I was like, dude, I gotta, I gotta finish this thing. And there's a moment of panic there when it's tilted back. You can see me like, there's like a, uh-oh, I don't know if this is going to happen here.

And we powered through it. And that's where the victory celebration kind of came in. D-Box all fired up, going wild. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't give myself an A for the chug by any means. Like it wasn't, it wasn't impressive, but we got the job done. And that's kind of half the battle, you know? Yeah, you got through it. It would have been very fun if you had just thrown up immediately.

Well, it's also just so perfect. So Wisconsin that this is like a thing at Bucks games. And it's like everyone is just like, this is fucking awesome. All of our sports, every player who plays in a Wisconsin, you know, sport has to come and chug a beer as fast as they can. Right. It's just what you got to do. It makes for a great environment too. It's an awesome place to watch a game.

Like really any, any of the sports teams in Wisconsin, it's a, it's a cool atmosphere and no matter where you go, watch the game. But yeah, those Bucks playoff games are electric. Yeah. All right. We got it. We got to ask you this because we need a headline. What do you think about the whole spider tack stuff? Have you noticed that a difference in the pitches you're seeing since the ban has been enacted?

Maybe a little bit. I mean, I know it was, I know it was fairly, fairly prevalent, but it was one of those things like nobody was really doing anything about it. And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, it kind of just became a big deal. I felt, I felt like that kind of happened overnight. But yeah, it was definitely one of those things where there was some nights where you could, like you could hear the, it's not like Velcro going off guys, guys, speakers when they're, especially in the, the 2020 season where there was no fans.

And it was a lot quieter in the, in the stadiums. But I mean, guys are so good that I feel like they don't really need it. Like they, we've kind of shown like, Hey, you guys are still really good. They can still spin the baseball. I'm not a pitcher, so I don't really know how big of a difference it really makes. It's hard to tell from the batter's box. I'll be honest. Like I still think guys are, are pretty nasty. Maybe that's because I'm not playing very well.

So the baseball looks like an aspirin coming up there. But yeah, it was just one of those things that just gained a lot of traction out of nowhere. I felt like, I think everybody in the game kind of, this new guys were using stuff to get a grip, but non-pitchers like myself, I don't know if I really know how big of a difference it does or doesn't make. Because guys are still pitching. Well, you know, like all the best pitchers in the game are still pretty much the, doing the best in the game, even after the, even after the ban.

So I think it was one of those things where like everybody thought there was going to be like this massive difference or like these guys are going to stink all of a sudden. And that just wasn't really the case. I don't know what you guys think about it, but that's kind of from my perspective. Well, I think it's kind of weird the timing that Major League Baseball had to do it in the middle of a season, like not even over an all-star break. They just like decided one day, okay, now the rules are going to take effect. And then you had managers that, I guess you just get to call out the opposing pitcher

whenever you want. I don't know how that works. Yeah. I mean, I think we saw that happened in one time, I think, right? It was like the Phillies Nats game, but that hasn't happened in any of the Brewers games or anything like that. Like it's been pretty standard. The Empire checks the pitcher's glove and hat and we're on their way. And it's like a three-second check. So it's got a formality. If your manager requests the check and they find out that the pitcher is clean, the manager should have to step into the box and take a nap bat.

I mean, yeah, it's pretty bad if you don't, like you better have pretty good idea that there's guys going to something or using something if you're going to call them out. I wish, you know what? I wish though, I wish normal people could take that pass. Yes. Yes. I think it'd be pretty cool. I don't, there's no way that it actually would be able to happen or anything like that. Maybe like live BPs and spring training. I think it'd be cool though, like just to give people a perspective on like baseball and like hitting or even pitching sports. I honestly think if you, if I,

if I stood in the box against Jacob DeGramme and he threw a thousand pitches, I don't think I'd make contact more than once. Maybe luckily. It sounds, it honestly sounds, it sounds extreme, but I really, I really think you're right. Yeah. Like I would get lucky maybe a couple of times, but that would be pure luck. There would never be a time where I would swing being like, I'm about to hit this. Yeah. I mean, I think no joke. I think like there's a chance that you could maybe like foul tip on. Right. But like if there was like an actual defense out there and like getting a hit, like there's no,

there's no chance. Like actually as you go for a thousand. Yeah. It'd be crazy. I also think that you would just get exhausted swinging the bat a thousand times. So if you could do like one at bat per day for a thousand days in a row, I feel like one of those you could get a foul tip. Yeah. Because eventually like you'd have a better chance. You'd have a better chance of a thousand at bats in a single day of foul tip in a ball. If you did one at bat for a thousand days, I would, I'd say zero.

Yeah. Because you didn't, like you'd have a, like eventually you'd just be standing there and you'd just be pure guessing on timing. Like, okay. You'd stand up and like you'd be able to like get the bat in the way of the ball, at least like one time, I feel like. Right. Like I know. Yeah. I know where his, where he is in his wind up. Now's the time I got to start swinging and hope that I guessed right. Yeah. But the thing with him is like, his ball goes like this kind of like,

it feels like it's going like that. Shit. And then, yeah. I mean, he throws like 95 an hour sliders and they look like fast balls until you go to swing out and they're not. So it's, it'd be an awesome experience. Like I don't, I don't know how that would ever happen. Like for people just to be able to, to see that. And I know there's those websites like on Twitter and Instagram and stuff. I think they're like the pitching ninja things where like they overlay the two balls,

the fastball and slider and, and just like people that think hitting and stuff is easy. Like it's kind of funny when you guys like face like Hater or something, you know, and there's a guy on third and less than two outs. Like, well, just make contact, you know, get the guy in. There's a guy selling a hundred from like behind you and the balls are rising and you don't really know where it's going to be. And then it could be not a fastball too. On the flip side, what always amazes me is like when a guy like,

or all this Chapman who's had struggles this year, because his movement is just not the same. And it's crazy to me that like a guy who throws a hundred, but he has no movement. Everyone crushes him because it like eliminates that one variable. And now everyone in MLB, even though it's a hundred miles an hour, if it's straight and doesn't move, you guys can all fucking like smash on that. Yeah. I mean, a lot of it's just like location based.

I think pitchers go in slumps too, you know, where they're, they're not really hitting their spots as well as they usually do. Or just freak things happen to them too. You know, they hit a guy, a broken bat single and then a homer. There's three earned runs right there before like anything happened. So pitchers go through slumps too. But yeah, a lot of it's just like location based. And all the best pitchers in the games are the guys that,

you know, throw really hard with that velocity and then can locate it really well. And like, I'm going to be like facing Chapman as a left handed hitter. It's not a great time either. I'm not going to lie. Right. It's not, you're not like stoked to go up there by any means. So, so let me ask you this then, because Kyle Hendricks, obviously I love Kyle Hendricks. Like you face him a bunch.

He doesn't throw faster than 88 tops. But he just all location. Like how much does that fuck with you when it's slow? Well, you go, you go for a thousand against him too. Yeah. Even though he throws, even though he throws 87, 88. Just because like he's, I enjoy facing him because I don't do well against him either. Like I don't, I wouldn't say like I crush and we've had a lot of battles over the years,

just because we're in the same division and face each other all the time. But yeah, he's got three different fastballs and three different change ups and a curveball. And he locates it, moves the ball around really well and throws any pitch and any count. And so I don't think people appreciate that either. Like the art of pitching, like the way he does it with, because he throws, he throws four steam fastball that kind of cuts a little bit. Got two steam fastball, he throws four steam fastball at the top of the zone. He has a two steam change up, change up that cuts a little bit.

And then the straight change up that looks like a four steam fastball, it's not. And then his curveball is pretty good too. It's not what he's really known for. You know, he's known for fastball change up. He can move, he can front dory with two seamers, back dory with cutters, fastball. So he's just moving it everywhere, you know, and all this, he can make all of his pitches look the same. And people don't understand that either.

Like, oh, he's throwing 87. Like how can you not hit that? You know, it's like, well, dude, you don't think you have no idea. Right. It looks, it could be, it could be 82. And you don't know the difference between the two. Right. You don't, you really don't. Like they all look the same coming out of his hand. It's impressive too.

And one of them just never gets there. You know, they're the same pitch and one of them is 10 miles an hour slower and it just never gets there. And he's had all the success he's had in the game, you know, for a reason. Is there a certain pitcher who's like, if you were to pick one pitch from an individual pitcher for a person like us to step into the batter's box and you get one crack at it, what is the nastiest pitch? Oh, the guy with the nastiest pitch.

I mean, there's a lot of guys with electric fastballs. Like, I don't know who I'd, who I'd, I mean, I think DeGroms, probably the guy that is like, it's, it's pretty impressive. Like facing, I faced him a lot too when I was in the, in the NLEs. And that was before he was throwing like 102. He was just only throwing 96, only 96 at the time. But give some appreciation there. I think Hader, our, our, our closer, um, just like you can watch it on TV or

in video and like certain guys, fastballs look different. Like there's different 98s. Some of them feel light and they don't feel as hard as it says. And then there's other guys stuff that it'll say like 95 and you're like, dude, I could swear that I swear that's 110. Is that like the rising action on it? The, the balls? Yeah, the rise and the force team, like the deception, the way they throw it.

Like sometimes like, dude, just like, you don't see certain guys as well. Like I might see a guy better than you see a guy. And he could be really good or be not as good. And we both have different opinions on them. Like that's why it's just a fascinating game. Yeah. I mean, fastballs, it is always fascinating to me how much, like two miles an hour or just, like I was saying with Chapman, like when he doesn't have movement on his fastball,

it could be a hundred, but it's not the same. Like the, I've always heard like, you know, guys whose fastball seems to get faster. Like at the end, you know what I mean? Like it pops. Has, is that something that's real? Well, so like people understand that now. Like a few years ago, you wouldn't really know why a ball got on you like that. Right.

And now, and now it's because they have ways of telling like extension, like how far down the mound he is when he lets go of the ball. Like guys that let it go closer to home plate, obviously their fastball plays better. The release, like some guys release the ball higher or lower. And the guys that have the lower release, the ball seems to like take off a little bit more. Like low, low releases and like height above the ground where they release the ball. And then that's where that, that's where the spider tack thing came in. It was in the RPMs on guys fastballs.

Like the higher the RPMs, the more life and, and rise you'll get to it. And that's kind of where people were, were pointing to where it became kind of a problem in the game. And so if you had a guy that could combine all three of those things, then it's a, it's a tough AB to say the least. It's an issue. Yeah. And if you want to, if you want to sound really smart to your friends at home, just say, Hey, you know, a rising fastball doesn't actually rise. It just doesn't drop as fast as you think it's going to drop.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. People forget that. Yeah. And this hold is playing better. Yeah. Yeah.

All right. What about a, what about a knuckleball? Could I step into, into the batter's box against a knuckleball and take a thousand swings and hit one? Maybe, just because the velocity is not as, the velocity is not as hard. And sometimes they don't do anything. Right. You know, like sometimes a knuckleball just literally just kind of floats in there. If someone ripped off a good one, then no, like guys,

majorly guys look stupid on a really good knuckleball. They're hard to even catch, let alone hit. Yeah. If they catch them pretty good, like guys that have a good knuckleball, you don't want to play catch with them because they, you actually might get hit in the face. If they catch it right, it's like, damn, no thanks. I'm good on that. Fuck.

But there's not really, there's not really too many knuckleballers left in the game. I think RA was one. Everyone's in spider attack now. You can't, you can't throw a knuckleball, no spin if you got all that stuff on it. Exactly. Yeah. Do you guys ever try that? Have you ever gotten like a can of that stuff?

Right here. Yeah. Right there. I use it to blog. How sticky, how sticky is that though? Very, very, very, very, very sticky. Doesn't help my typing. That was nice by you, by the way.

That was a really smart move to be like, I've never seen a can of that. Yeah. I've never seen. Yeah. Never in the Brewers dugout. No, no. Yeah. And my beer was just accidentally half-drank it.

Yeah, yeah, no. I've never seen it. What is that spider tech stuff you got? Yeah. Never seen it. Text, text, minute, picture, average. All right. I got one last question.

Use code PFT on roback.com for 20% off your first purchase, R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com code PFT. Make the best performance polls and the only performance polls we wear. We're going to send you one, Christian. We send everyone our Roback performance cue zips when they come on the show. This is a, maybe some may say this is a mean question. I don't think it's that mean, but you know, you haven't been great this year. So is it weird sometimes like for division rivals? Like if you haven't gotten a hit against the team to be like, Hey, oh, I just got to hit

my first hit against the Cubs in the middle of July. Do I go, do I stand on first base and be like, Hey, Rizzo, how was the off season? It could. I love, I love talking to Rizzo first base. We always have some good conversations over there about who knows what. It just kind of depends what's going on or how we're both doing at the time. We laugh at each other about how hard baseball is sometimes. He's a great guy, man.

I love, I love talking him over there. I really like, I mean, I know it's a rivalry, but I really like all those guys over there. They're good dudes. We've had some passionate games over the years, but it's been fun. I don't believe you with Wilson Contreras. It feels like every, I have a theory. Actually, here's my last, last question. I have a theory that it's just, if you're a good catcher, you should be hated by the other team.

Like the catcher position is, is somehow always the most hated guy on each team. Really? I feel like that's the case because I don't know. There's like, I mean, I've always had good conversations with Wilson. You know, you go to the play and I would say hello to him and play against each other for a long time. Obviously, respect him. He's beaten us a few times on his own.

He's literally had a few walkoff homers against us, I think. So super talented. There's always going to be that rivalry when you play each other so much, but you got to, you got to respect like how talented people are in the way they play the game. And there's obviously a lot of those guys on the Cubs are very talented and we've had some good fun battles and we've come out on top on some. They've come out on the top on some and like I said, who knows what's going to happen here in the next few months.

But you know, Riz, KB, Javi, Wilson, like that core over there, we've had a, we've had a good run against them and I've always enjoyed playing against them even though it's a rivalry and the two fan bases don't really get along. I think the players do. We've had a couple of dust ups. We've had a couple of benches clearing things, but there's never been any, there's never been any fight and just the occasional, occasional shouting across the way to each other. But that's really been about it.

Will you sprint to first base on your next walk for us? Patrick Wisdom said he would. I don't know if he ever did. He kind of did. He like jogged lightly. Yeah. It's, it's my favorite move in baseball. Please.

Just a full sprint. Yeah. Like Nemo, Nemo, Nemo from the Mets does it every time. Yes. Do it. Exteen, you do it. Your next walk. Yeah.

Just a sprint and a breakdown at first base. Yeah. Just running for it. Show some muscle. Don't, don't turn towards second. You got home. Yeah. Don't turn towards second.

Turn towards second because it, you know, it gets heated after that happens. You know, I don't, I don't really love that. You did. The hips moved. I watched it like six times before this interview. But I didn't move my shoulders or anything. Like I didn't attempt to, there was no way I actually went to second base. There was a shimmy.

There was a shimmy. Like in basketball, you guard the guy's hip, you guard, guard the guy's belly button because he can't go anywhere without it. You're, you're, you're torso moved. My belly button was looking right at the foul pole. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

Just straight on deadlock, staring it down, staring it down. So how are you going to know if I, how are you going to know if I sprint on a walk though? I feel like you're not locked in on every bruise game. I'm not. There'll be highlights. People will say like, oh, he's sprinted on the walk and then we can, we can be like, yeah, he respects 90 and then we'll put this clip in. That should also be a, it's going to be a sports in our top 10 play.

Just the, the hustle that you would show. That's fair. I got, you know, you got to do something every night, you know, to contribute to a win. And so I haven't really been, I haven't really been getting a big hit lately. So I can hustle. I can give hard 90s. Yes. Exactly.

You know, hard 90s. You know how to get on the slump. To set the tone, set the tone, do the little things right and the big things come. That's what they say, right? Yeah. Little things add up to big things in the long run. And I'm watching this replay again. Your belly button moved.

Your belly button. No chance. It's you. Listen, Shohei Otami is the house of baseball. The conversation at first base kind of went like this and then it escalated a little bit and I got thrown out. I'm going to get thrown off the project. You're the belly button of baseball.

Yeah. I would have called it the same exact way. I would have called it the same exact way. We just played too many games. We played too many games. All right. You know, things were heated. Passions were high.

Guys being dudes, you said, you know, and then one thing led to another and one of us had to leave the game road. All right. Well, you're out of here. Yeah. We're good luck for the rest of the season. Now that the Cubs are in full rebuild mode again, I wish you personal success. I hope you have a great second half.

It would be great if you just rattled off an incredible second half and it's just you have to come on this show to find your magic. I'm serious if I have another great second half. But this is going to be a yearly thing for the rest of my career on the all-star break. We're coming on PMT and just getting the bump. And maybe a little bit. Maybe a little bit of your salary goes to us. Well, it depends.

You know, it depends if it works or not. Okay. Okay. Yeah. What does work mean? What if you, if you hit 20 home runs in the second half? Yes, sure. So we get a little bit of your salary.

20 home runs in the second half. We get a little bit of your salary. 25% of your salary. For every home run you hit, we get that. No, let's say if, if, if you hit 20 home runs in the second half, you give this podcast $15,000. 20 homers in the second half. Yes. What do we get?

What are we spending? What are we spending it on? Well, you know, we're going to do a parallel. No, no, no, no. We'll go to, uh, we'll come out. We'll do where you live in the off season in California. Right. Scottsdale, Scottsdale, Malibu.

Yeah. Kind of all over. Okay. Perfect. So if, if we'll go shopping, you know, if you hit 20 home runs, then we'll come like state. We'll do like a weekend where you like, you know, put us up at a five star resort. We all hang out, play wiffle ball and you take us out to dinners and shit. And just like on Christian shoes, new shoes, we get matching outfits.

So it doesn't have to be cash, but you have to spend it on. We'll go on a guy's trip. You don't remember Brewster's millions? The, uh, the, the, the movie you have, you have to spend $15,000 on us in a weekend. All right. I like that. Okay. Yeah.

Just a guy's trip. I was going to say that we take the 15 grand. We reinvest it and we bet on Christian yellow to hit another home run in the playoffs. And then if that hits, then guess what? I can't be a part. I can't be a part. Oh yeah. I can't be a part of that.

I can't be a part of that. He can't be a part of that. So, so it'll be a guy's trip. You'll spend it on us. 20,000. Let's say 20. Come on. 20 for 20.

20 for 20. Fine. How about 20 home runs? A lot of home runs this second. That's a lot of homework. I think, I think the, yeah, my MVP half was like 25 or something like that. Right. All right.

So this is good. 20 for 20. If you hit 20 home runs, we'll do a Brewster's Millions, but it's $20,000 weekend where Christian just spends it on us and we just go and fucking ball out. Yeah. We'll go, we'll do something fun. Guys weekend.

Yes. I love this. If you want to bump it up to 100,000 leads or disasters. This is when we always negotiate ourselves out of something. Yeah. We, we should think about, think about the 100,000. We'll think about it. All right.

20 home run watch starts today. I fucking love this. Love it. All right. We locked in. Thanks man. Appreciate it. You got it guys.

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And now here he is. David Juice. And now for something completely different. Okay. We now welcome on a very special guest. It is Dave Jouse. You saw him on Monday night. The pitching phenom, he was pitching to Peter Lanzo

to his victory in the MLB home run derby. You took the world by storm because you were an incredible, incredible pitcher. Let's start here. How's your arm today? Because you threw a lot of pitches last night. I've been blessed with this right arm from the shoulder down to the fingers

have never been hurt for 44 years. My back, my ears, my nose, of course my head. Those things, those things are hurting every day. But for some reason I've never had a problem with my arm. And I probably threw less pitches yesterday than I do on a normal BP day. So I'm ready to do that all the time. How did you find out that you were really,

really good at throwing batting practice? Was it because as a pitcher you got hit a lot or did you just get into a zone? Actually, I was an infielder, only played in college. But I had to, when I started my managing career, which was a lot earlier than most players, because it wasn't because I was hurt. It wasn't because I wasn't looked at as a college player.

We had eight guys signed contracts in the college I was at my senior year. So they were looked at. And it wasn't that I didn't have good coaching because my high school coach is in the Illinois High School Hall of Fame. My college coach is in the College Baseball Hall of Fame. So I have good coaching.

It was complete lack of talent that I had to go into coaching and managing. And so I had to, I was the only coach and head coach and manager on my teams, both Canadian professional baseball, college baseball. And so I had to throw it up every player. And I also had to catch bullpens and all that. So I had to throw right away.

And I knew I could throw and make them a lot better hitters than I was because I wanted them to have a chance to be confident. And it started back in 1980. And I've been able to do it. And some years I throw every day of the year. Wow. I mean, it was incredible your location. You did hit him once.

You hit Pete once. Did you, was that a brushback? Was that like a, hey, just so you know, I'm still the boss out here? No. And actually when I, when I threw it, our youngest son, who's my media director at this moment, he got this computer set up and everything.

As a pitcher, he, he drilled a lot of guys. He was a really good pitcher, but he drilled a lot of guys. And so as I hit Alainzo, the ball slipped out of my hand. I said, wow, I'm like my son because I drilled them. It was the first guy I ever drilled. And then also I said, in 95, when oftentimes I threw to Cal Jr. when he was breaking the consecutive streak, I used to throw them.

I said, I never hit Cal. How can I hit this guy? It was the first guy I'd ever hit in my life. And so it was not a drill back. It was a slip ball. And I couldn't believe Pete laughed about it. The next ball, he yanked out of there. So it was kind of funny.

It was good. I got, actually, I got a, I got a message from our trainer last night, the Mets trainer, Brian Chikolo, great man left me a message said, congratulations, fun to watch it. By the way, we wonder if we're going to have to put Pete on the, uh, on the aisle when he comes back. It was great. It was a great moment.

I also, I noticed you weren't wearing a hat. And I feel like you were more locked in than anyone else because of the lack of hat. Was that, do you, do you never wear a hat when you throw BP? You, you seem so much more focused than everyone else. And I swear it was partially because of the hat. I, I never wear a hat throwing BP. I always take it off.

I always try to take these, these glasses off. But I, I never wear a hat. I don't have any chance of having any hair ever in my eyes. So it's okay. I've saved a lot of money on, on, on hair dryers and shampoo in my life. So, uh, yeah. So maybe that's, that's it. But, uh, Dante Bichette is a hitting coach.

Never wore a hat, but that's cause he's got a beautiful looking face. I got a face for rent. So I'm, I'm good on that. I read that you one time threw a hundred inning game. Yeah. I, I, in the one college I was at was Atlanta Christian College in Wilson, North Carolina. It's now called Barton.

And for a fundraiser, we threw in a hundred inning game and I threw to both teams. Now we did start to count one, two, you know, a one, two count. So there was plenty of times it was a two pitch, to the hitters, but they played. We played both teams had the captain. The captain was the manager of one team. The other captain was the manager.

The other team was a really good fundraiser. And I threw that and then dragged the field afterwards. Because of course you're the only coach and you're also the groundskeeper. You're also heck, my first, my first college job was at Westfield State College. And like 1982, I was a head coach, the youngest coach in the nation. I made $1,500 a year and my budget was $1,500 graduate, graduate of Amherst College. I had a master's degree from UMass sport management department. And yet I was making $1,500 a year for my, for my, for my job.

My grandfather always asked me, he said, Hey, when are you going to get a real job? Yeah. And look, yeah, I mean, you got to have a job. Yeah, you got to have to. You got a great, so I want to mention your, your college real quick. Cause I saw a quote that was treated out last night. You said in 1991, 40% of Amherst grads are lawyers, 40% are doctors, 15% go into some kind of business.

The other 5% are idiots like me enjoying what they're doing. Now my question is, does that also apply to Williams college next door? Oh, no doubt, no doubt, but don't let them, don't let them be hotty, say that they don't do it. All those 95 other percent guys that graduate and, and now girls, when I started it was, was not co-ed, but now girls, they always call me and want to know what I'm doing. Or the other 5% at Williams. And, and I never call them other than to say hi and stuff like that, but I never ask them

what they're doing at some, you know, high tech company or in the, in the medical room, dive into somebody's bladder or spleen or something like that. So I asked because sitting in this room right now, who he was our intern, but he's now full time, is someone who might have graduated from Williams and he would be in the 5% of idiots, but guess what? He's got a great job. So I feel like you guys are kindred spirits in that respect. We are, and he's an Estman.

How, how are you an Estman? Eafs. F, effmin, it's called effmin. And I was, I was a, until they changed it, I was a Lord Jeff. Then they found out that the Lord Jeff had a bad history. And so now they're like the wooly mammoth or something. But I would go back to Chicago after, after going to Amherst my first year and all my buddies in Chicago would say, so, so what's your nickname?

I'd say the Bobcats. Cause that couldn't be Lord Jeff. They run me out. Wait, what's an effmin? Eafs. It's like a fuck board. Yeah. No, so easy, easy.

I'm not in. He said it. You didn't, that's okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you're okay. You can blame me. We're not on the radio.

It's podcasts. You can get away with stuff. That's funny though, because I saw that quote and I thought like that's a great quote because our guy Billy here wrestled with the like, hey, should I go get a job where I'm, you know, a doctor or lawyer or maybe, you know, try out being a 5% idiot and have a good time. Yeah. I'm glad you are doing it. And guess what?

I have, we have three sons. My wife and I have three sons. They are much more brilliant than I am. My wife is much smarter than I am. She's written two books and, but all three of our boys are in the game. One's a scout with San Francisco Giants. He actually lives in Wrigleyville. He lives, he does the Midwest States for the Giants.

He's an amateur scout. The middle one lives in Scottsdale. He's a mental skills coach for the Diamondbacks. I always say he had, he's 28 years old. He's had 28 years of learning what not to do mentally like I do. And then our youngest is just taking a coaching position at Boston College. He's a, he's a pitching coach, graduated from NYU. And he's, he's my media director today.

Love it. That's fascinating. You're actually the perfect person to ask this question. We brought it up on the last show. I don't think we had a good answer for it though. At what point do you switch from being a baseball coach to a baseball manager? Because I'm pretty sure in college, you're still a baseball coach, right?

Yeah. Yeah. You're a head coach in college. And even my, my first managing job in 1980, when I went up to New, to Woodstock, New Brunswick in the Canadian senior league, I was still a head coach. Cause that was, it's like, if you go to a semi pro team or a professional team in like Germany or Italy or Australia, that's not part of the baseball affiliate, you know, the professional baseball affiliate, you're a head coach.

But in, in professional baseball, you're a manager, you call you a manager. And, and that's the reason you're a bench coach rather than an assistant head coach or something like that. It's terminology. It's also the reason why we wear uniforms on the bench where in every sport they wear, you know, pullovers or they used to wear suits. So bench coach in baseball, I think is like the coolest job because you, can you explain to me exactly what your day to day as a bench coach looks like?

Because I always look at it and I'm like, he gets to sit next to the manager. He gets to maybe give him a little input. The manager could take it or not. He gets to hang out with the guys. It seems like a pretty good life. So what, what am I missing here? Is it just, it's a pretty fun existence. Correct?

I believe that everything in baseball has been a fun existence. And I did have some years with the, with the Pittsburgh pirates. And we always like to say that Willie Stodgel, one of his favorite quotes was, they don't say work ball to start the game of baseball. They say play ball. And, and so I've been able to play for 46 years of 45 years of my, of my working life. And a bunch of them have been the bench coach. You're, you're whatever the manager needs, whatever his strengths are,

you compliment those strengths, but you really work on what his weaknesses, because everybody has a weakness. So if they're a really good relationship guy and not a good numbers guy, you take care of the numbers. Or I've had a manager who was a really good numbers guy, but didn't want to admit it to any of the players, because it wasn't that time that it was good to be a good numbers guy. So I was the guy that was the numbers guy, the numbers geek,

and he could be the relationship guy and the hunch guy. It wasn't a hunch. He had numbers going through his head all the time. And you do a lot of scheduling. You're, you're really that go between so that you try to deflect some of the stuff that the manager on the manager's plate. So he doesn't have to take care of it. But these days, a lot of coaches do that.

You know, when I first started, it really was the bench coach. And then heck, when I first started, the X bench coaches were the guys that were, the guys that kept the manager out of getting in trouble after the game, be it yelling at media, be it yelling at players or being going out a little bit too much. Right. I like that. Yeah. And can you tell when you have a manager that's about to get ejected from the game? Like when he gets to the ballpark that day, you know that he's on one and he's looking to get tossed?

Rarely have I ever had a manager that I knew was going to get tossed before. But often before the inning started, or you, you never were surprised unless the umpire made a bad ejection because you can hear it coming. And there are times that you knew that, Hey, the manager, you know, this would really help the club this time. If there was a really good opportunity, take the, uh, take the, uh, the burden on you and manager's just do a great job at this. Take the burden on you.

Now I, I can't say when I did manage in, in, in winter ball and in minor leagues, you know, I was kind of a kind of an idiot as a manager, because I've never gotten thrown out as a bench coach, but I got thrown out of 18 out of 60 games in 1999 in, in Dominican winter league. That's gotta be a record. Very impressive. I actually heard that you got banned from the Dominican league for two years. Yeah, I did one time.

They said I was unprofessional wearing shorts, um, coming out after being ejected, coming out onto the dugout and I accosted one of the empires, which was a, they, they fabricated the story. Of course, a one week later, Jose Offerman took over my job and he punched a guy out, which was also fabricated because the bunch, the punch never connected. Well, the empire just fell to the ground. He took a dive. Not that he should have tried to take a punch, but.

So you were just getting kicked out of every game and then you just got kicked out of the league. Yeah, that happened. It sounds like it was just a glorified dress code violation though. You were wearing shorts and they got mad because you came out there and you were showing some gam and they're like, we got to send this guy home. Well, Moises Alou was the general manager for Escajito at that time. And for some reason, our best hitter, Timo Perez was hit 10 straight times. And I, I heard that like some of the pictures would get some sort of extra bonus when that happened.

And so the 10th time it happened, I complained to the empire and he kicked me out. I didn't, I didn't ever ask our guys to drill anybody. So, uh, so now all of a sudden it's in the 13th inning and things are going crazy. And I'm out on the top step and they say that I'm, yeah, my dress code is bad. So, so along those same lines, you've been part of, uh, bench clearing brawls because you've been in, you know, major league for a very long time. What, what is the bench coaches like? What, what is the checklist when a bench clearing brawl happens?

What are you doing first? What are you doing to make sure that like everything's cool? What, what goes through your head when it's like, all right, it's go time. We're, we're going for this. Well, it happens a lot. You know what I mean? It's, and it, it happens in your family sometimes, you know? Your, your, your sons go after each other and stuff like that.

And you got to make sure that you break things up and not escalate it. Um, and so usually you try to make sure you take care of a player on another team that you can handle so that they don't add to it. And then you also try to save your best player so he doesn't get suspended after it. Now, when you bring that thing up, I still remember my son showing me the, the clip and I think it was from you guys when you were saying, how about that joust guy in a, in a, there was a Pittsburgh Cincinnati brawl and I was like the last guy to get out of the dugout. Well, there's a whole lot of people in front of me and Clint at that time had two bad hips

and he couldn't get out and Clint is one of the strongest men and Sean Rodriguez, he and Sean are studs and I'm trying to get behind so my knees don't quite work. And so they're now at home plate and I'm trying to get out there and you're, you're, you're jacking on, on joust the old guy. The ball's going to be over by the time you got out there and I was, I was dying laugh. My kids had such a good laugh on me on that one. But it just, it's, it's, you grew up in, in this, in this, in the streets, in the alleys and Chicago and you got in some brawls and then, and in the, it's, it's obvious, you know, it's, you see it publicly now because it's that PNC or it's that great ballpark of America or

American park and all that, but it's the same thing. Kids are kids are kids in the, in the dugout and it doesn't matter if they're 35 playing a, playing a game at the, at the big league level or it's, you know, at the softball park down the road, those things happen. Have you had a chance to take stock of your legacy as a home run derby pitcher and think to yourself like, am I the greatest home run derby pitcher of all time? No, and, and, and when it's really fun that this has happened to get the chance to talk with you and, and have my, my whole family here to be able to enjoy this and get to know Pete's family because I've gotten to know Pete. But to put it in perspective, probably the, the most,

the most time I ever got compliments publicly was in 2004, I was the advanced scout for the Red Sox and we came back from all three against the Yankees and then we sweep the Cardinals and guys like Schilling and Lowe and Pedro and Ortiz and Barritec and they, they said that our reports to myself and the two guys that were in the field with me who were scouts and Galen Carr, who was the video scout at that time, we put it, you know, we, we worked all year and did, did a really good job and they complimented me personally a bunch and so you'd walk around boss and you'd have your ring and they'd say, oh yeah, you were the reason that you could come back from all three and, and the first thing I'd say is no, I wasn't because those reports were

there also for the going all for three. We were all in three and those same reports were there all in three. So it's the execution of the players because that Red Sox team to win seven games in a row, they execute. They played together was awesome and that's the same thing last night is, as I look at, I could have thrown those pictures to somebody else last night and they wouldn't have gone. It was, it was Peter Lanza. He's, he's really a special, special hitter. He's a special power hitter and in that type of venue and that type of competition, that's pretty special to see him do that. It's interesting that you brought up 2004 because everybody does talk about coming from behind when you're down to 03, which, I mean, for understandable

reasons, it was an epic comeback. It was like one of the greatest comebacks of all time in sports, but nobody really talks about what happened next in the World Series. It almost felt like the World Series was a foregone conclusion at that point because of all the momentum you had, but I can't imagine that you expected to go in there and sweep the World Series. If you ask guys like Kevin Malar and Veratec and those, they, they did. Frank, you know, and, and you didn't publicly say that before that, but this club got so confident out of beating the Yankees four straight. And at that time, that American League East made you better than anybody else because they were the best division in baseball by a decent step. And that's not just

a hit. The pitching was ridiculous. So every hitter got better. And, and, and, and because of that, you were going to have a really good opportunity to beat anybody else you played because you played the best competition, not just for the previous seven games, but for, for the previous 160 or 180 games. And so you're prepared. And that's, that's the reason why the, the best teams in all, at all competition and all levels in all sports, you don't want to play the weaker teams in college. Why play, why play the weaker teams? It's not getting you better. It gets you a win, but it doesn't get you better. And, and, and that's why I really believe that in the, in the aura that I felt in that clubhouse coming in for the World Series, there was, I mean, unless we're going to

play the Yankees again in seven or another AL East team, that team was going to dominate whoever they played and, and it did. Yeah. So there's a little synergy on the podcast because we had Christian Yellowchon. He's going to be on the same show as you. We just talked to him. We talked to him about losing streaks. What's your go-to move if your team's in a losing streak? How do you, like as a bench coach, get guys, you know, back on track, or do you not say anything and let the guys kind of figure it out themselves? The three minutes to five minutes after the, the previous game is over, it's over and done with. Really? And, and, and I've always felt that way. I think you model it and set the tone as a staff person, be it the manager, be it the bench coach,

be it the coach and staff, and being a team leader like a Yellowchist. And so that, that doesn't change. And that doesn't mean that we all handle things the same, personality-wise, but we have to have that tone. And in baseball, it is paramount. There's, there's no sport like it, because you're playing every day and you're playing 162. And so you move past it like this. And I do. I mean, that's the reason, that's the reason we tell our club, we tell our players in our club who is playing the next day before they leave the clubhouse so they can already have left that night, no matter if they won or lost, left that night and ready to go the next day. And I, I, Louis Rojas and, and, and the staff we have do a great job and the players are all

focused on that. And it's a, it's set a really good tone. And I've always tried to set it. And each year you get a little better at setting it because I'm better now than I was a week ago, and definitely better than I was five or six years ago in what I try to do. Yeah. What would you say has been like the biggest improvement in the last 10 years? And, and I would imagine that as a bench coach, like you, there are a lot of guys that are smart that understand the game of baseball that do a good job, but don't necessarily stick around for as long as you have. So I have to assume that you've either found an edge, you found something that you can keep improving on, or you know, something that they don't know about, you know, just how to be a guy

that people not only respect, but like hanging out with. I think it's my arm because as long as you throw really good BP, you're always going to have a job. I never say it's up here and maybe it's my heart. I hope it's my heart a little bit, but the arm, because I always say if that arm goes, if my arm goes today, it should never has gone. You never know when it's going to go. Tomorrow I'll either be the Met bottlehead or if the Mets don't want me, I'll be Wally the green monster or I'll be Dinger out here. I'll stay out here and I'll be Dinger in Colorado because that's my next job if I ever get. What speed do you throw at for your BP? Because I always like it's funny. You think it's very slow, but you're still throwing it a nice clip.

Well, it is a lot slower than it used to be. I mean, I used to, when I first started that, you know, I'd go in and when they needed somebody firm to throw, I'd be that guy. I remember throwing firm to like Mo Vaughn and Alfredo Cordero and these guys in the old Fenway cage out in center field. I've got broken nose, broken hand because the cage, the ricochet was almost like arena football out there. And so I used to throw pretty hard, but it was at that still at that 50 feet, 45 feet, 50. Now they have it sometimes on the board these days. So I actually know that sometimes I'm throwing like 49 miles an hour only. And probably yesterday I was probably throwing a little bit less because for home run derby, you even want to throw a little bit less. You don't

have to add any power to the ball when the guys are taking their, their swings to go, go out and practice. You ever thought about using spider tack or any performance enhancing capabilities? Make sure maybe you extend your career a little bit. I should have done it more to my sons. All three were pitchers. The middle one caught also and hit, but the all three did pitch and I taught him to throw strikes. I taught him how to command the ball. I never gave him spider tack and it took away probably some of the success they had. They weren't quite as bad as I was at giving up home runs, but they definitely weren't that guy with a spider tech to have the extra spin on the ball and break and everything like that. How much easier is it to coach first base than third

base? Is it like, I mean, you just relax at first base. First base coach is kind of like, that's the easiest job in the world, right? So, so as, as you guys know, my, my dad supports Ryder for 50 years of the Chicago Tribune and he was a proponent. He was not, my grandfather was the one that said, what are you going to do when you get a real job? My dad always said, do what you want to, what you like. And he says, I, I've always liked writing and I still go today. I go to work each day and love what I'm doing. He says, David, do the same thing. So he was, he was so glad I wanted to coach in and, and, and I finally get a big league coaching job with the Red Sox in 97. And I call him on the phone and I said, dad, I, I, Jimmy Williams has, has taken me as one of his

coaches and he goes, Oh, that's great. And he goes, what are you going to do? I said, I'm going to be the first base coach. He goes, Oh, that's like, um, breath is on a bull. He didn't say, I said, Oh, thanks, dad. Thanks dad. I appreciate it. That's awesome. Yeah. That's what he would have been, would have written that in the newspaper too. So, um, but I think, I think at that time, people didn't realize that there was a lot more. Cause yes, third base coach, it's the, it's the most when I coach third, and when I talk to guys that coach third now, I know that it is the most, it's the closest to being a player as a coach you are, because you have to react as a base runner. You have to react and it's the hardest, base running is the hardest thing. And as hard as

it is to hit base running, everything is changes every pitch and you are involved every pitch and you have to react off of nine people, not just the pitch in one person. Um, and that pitch is tough, but base running, there are more mistakes than anything else. And so as a third base coach, you have to be a player and it's very difficult. However, when I, I took over at first for Jimmy, I took pride in learning from Davey Nelson and a few guys that were really good, Tommy Harper. And, and I took pride in it and you can be a good base third base coach. There are some mechanics of a primary to first base coach and there's some mechanics and I've tried to train that when I was field coordinator and farm director to young guys coming up and I still add

some input because you could be a good first base coach and it's not just a token because most of most of my buddies, when I did, you know, when they, a lot of buddies would say, uh, as doctors or, or lawyers or whatever they were doing, big, big power finance guys, they'd say, Hey, I just want to come and be a bullpen coach for a day or first base coaches. Come on, come on now. I'm not going to go in and take that scalpel and go in and take somebody's bladder out. You know, you can't coach first or be a bullpen coach. Yeah. Yeah. You might go out of first base and you might forget the special sliding mitt that a guy wears or for our club, we had to have a mask this year. How about the Kevin Pallara? That's, that's tremendous. Kevin did really good and unreal. What a, what a,

what a super guy he is. And he's, he's great for our club, but he's good for baseball. Yeah. You mentioned your dad. He is a legend. He was a legend in his own right. And, uh, so he was, you know, a sports writer for very long time. Also on TV, the sports writer writers on TV, which is a hilarious show that you can go back and watch on YouTube. But between that, your dad being a, a, uh, sports writer and then you being a baseball lifer, do you respect baseball more than anyone on earth? I think you might. I don't know. I'm blessed to have this position. I'm blessed to be able to do this. I'm blessed to be able to be raised by, by my dad and my mom and, and all the people in Chicago and they love my dad. And it's still to this day of heck,

when they won the world series, our son was working at, uh, Yatsiz while he was getting his masters in sports psychology at Adler university, the middle son who was the mental skills coach. And he walked, he would leave Yatsiz and during the run for the world series, he would walk by and all the people had put chalk things on the wall. Yeah. He wrote, he wrote something for Papa Bill, his grandfather, my dad on that wall. And even though, you know, I was a pirate at that time, I had to take that and, and, and really cherish it to my heart. So I respect that. I respect people more than the game of baseball, the people that are involved in baseball. I've been, you know, from, from man, from having Felipe Alou is my, my manager back in, you know, 1989

to now his son, Louis Rojas in, in the Mets or to be Jerry manual hiring me as a Gulf Coast League manager in 1987. And, and then, uh, being his bench coach in 2010, being able to be with players like no more Garcia par, no more Garcia par left me a text last night. And it was because I threw home run her hitting contest, um, to him in 99 and Fenway. And he sent me a text and said he watched with his kids. He watched me and Pete Alonso. And it was, it was so special to my heart. I mean, so it's, you know, when you ask that question, I didn't even think it's, it's the people in baseball. Yeah. I respect that more than anything. That's a great answer. And you were at that 99, uh, home run Derby that, so for people who don't know that was a legendary home run Derby

was McGuire. It was so, so it was Griffey. It was bonds. It was all the guys in that era. Did you know at the moment at that time you're looking around like these guys, uh, this is incredible. I'm not going to ask a steroids question, but these guys are incredible. And like, did you have a second while you were watching it? Like this is, this is something people will look back and look at all the legends that are playing in this game. I did. And the story, if you backtrack just a little bit, when Nomar asked me, because home run Derby wasn't a big deal at that time. Um, Oh, Nomar asked me probably about a week before he goes, Hey, they've asked me to be in the home running contest and he was in the group. I threw two.

He goes, I want you to throw. I said, Oh my, I got three young kids and my wife's rented a place in the Cape to get away because I spent no time with you. I used to take the bus. I lived in Brighton in Boston and I take bus 56 to the ballpark. We only had one car and it was easier to get in, but I couldn't drive and cause leave the family by himself. So I didn't get a whole lot of time with the family. So, um, I came back. I said, No, I don't know. Let me ask, let me ask my wife. And so I go back and say, Billy, uh, Nomar's asked me to be in the home run, hitting contest and throw to him, but we've got this. And she right away, even before she goes, No, you got to do this. It'll be great. And I said, Oh yeah, it'll be awesome for the kids.

It'll be great. Eight, six and two year old kids and no problem. So sure enough, we do it. And, but I stepped on the field that day to throw BP on the Monday to the whole American League. I threw to everybody in the American League and then through to a whole lot because people didn't bring their BP throws at that time. So I threw the whole lot of the home run, hitting guys too, because I threw that day. I threw probably 850 pitches home. And, and so, but I stepped on to the field that day and I forgot my kids or any, I had no idea kids because it was, it was tremendous. There was, there was Bonds and there was Sosa and there was Larry Walker and there was Vladi Jr. There was, uh, oh, everybody. And then of course, Gwyn and Ripkin

with Ted Williams coming out before the end. But so, so when you say was it legendary, it was, I was, I was a little kid. It was, it was really special. And I got to see Ernie. He are the National League captain was Ernie Banks. Yeah, it was the only person. Yeah. He was, he was the Alzheimer and he was in the tent afterwards. And my, my wife brought me up to him and say, Hey, this is David. He, he got to see you when he was young with his dad. And, and that was a special, you know, and I felt the same way yesterday though, being out there and seeing Soto and, and, and, and Schwarber and, and then O'Connor and then Tatees Jr. and Nick Castellanos. I mean, it was, I felt, I forgot that the kids were in the stand until they were yelling at me and I brought them

on the field and almost got security arresting us for bringing my, my wife and my youngest son on the field. I think you just answered my previous question too, because that like your love for the game and the people in the game is infectious. And you, you just talking about it is awesome. Like I'm smiling right now. You talking about it. So I think, yes, I'm putting you as number one respecter of the game of baseball in America. Maybe the first family of baseball. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. It's just, it's just cool. Like it's just sports should be cool sometimes and it's, it's, it's a cool to, to embrace those moments. What do you think you'd be doing if you weren't in baseball right now? I'd be teaching or, or, but I didn't get a chance to go to Amherst

College. I probably would be doing something around Chicago. See, this is perfect because I'll be teaching kids and yeah, it's perfect because you'd be, you, you don't really have an answer. You just be like, I, I'd be doing something that's similar to baseball. Yeah, he backed into baseball. Yeah. You'd be coaching. You'd be coaching kids while teaching too. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. That's so great. Exactly. I think that's right. Like you're, you're love of baseball. I think it woke up something in just America. Everyone that's listening to it now is going to love baseball a little bit more tomorrow than they did when they woke up today and your pitches. I hope so. Yeah. I hope they do because it is, it is, it is

fun for, for me and my family, but that's what, that's what recreation and entertainment is about and, and, and, and these players putting a lot of work and time to be as good as they are and their talent level is special, is special. There's so many times I've been as a field coordinator or farm director and people would say, what's the, what's the highest level, you know, what's the toughest level to, to get to from A ball to double A because it goes from, you know, two teams to one team ages. I said, no, there's, there's, there's no, the biggest gap is, is minor leagues to the big leagues, be a triple A to the big league, double A is the big leagues because the big leagues is the big leagues and there's one spot and those guys are the most talented. They work the hardest

and it is, it is a special game to watch it from BP to taking ground balls to then the nine in the game. That's tough to win. It's tough to win a major league game. Yeah. What about, um, as a bench coach, do you have any, I'm always fascinated watching people relay signals into the game, especially like a third base coach relaying those to the batter. Do you have any go to like fake signals that you do to throw people off? If, if, if I did, and I'd say to them, I'd have to change all the 12 or 14 we have for this coming series because yes, you have a bunch. And, and you know what? I think we probably overdo it because it's tough to pick up signs from the other, other club. It's, it's a lot easier to pick them up if you got like, you know, technology involved

and they, they've stopped that, but without technology, it's tough to get signed. Well, let me put it this way. Have you ever had like a, a bluff signal that you've worked on and you're like, I think I got something here. This is going to be a good bluff signal. And then you've used it in a game. It's like, you know what? This one's just not working. Yeah. But it really comes to the execution of the player because oftentimes the miss sign allows that the other dugout to think they have it and all of a sudden one of your players missed the sign or you put it on wrong. And all of a sudden the other club goes, we don't have it anymore. So I love the miss sign because it takes away their feeling that they have the sign. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Dave,

this has been awesome. We really appreciate it. We got to come out to a game. I mean, we, we all live in New York now. I don't actually want to come out to a game. I do go to the city field whenever the Cubs play the Mets, but it's a long drive, you know, from the city to, to the city. We should get you to come out and play some Wiffle ball with us and have you throw batting practice. Your coach. Yeah. The Wiffle ball doesn't stay as straight as the real ball. Yes. But yeah. And guess what? If you're coming out only because you're coming to the Cubs, get those, those, get those tickets from David Ross or something like that. I'm not leaving them for you. If you're coming out to see the Mets, I'll see if I can leave you some

French tickets in that way up top. Yeah. Right. It knows me. It's all right. I love it. Well, thank you so much for doing this. Really appreciate it. Enjoy tonight and great pitching like incredible pitching performance last night. Thank you. Okay. Let's wrap up. We've got guys on chicks. All right. These are from last week, young son, Bob. So if they're bad, blame him. Hey, dad, cat, I'm a week away from the due date for our first baby. My husband has been very supportive and excited for the big day, but has told me he's going to be saying push, push with the drive to survive accent while holding my hand during delivery. How many of these do I have to put up with before kicking him out of the delivery room? Oh man. That's great. Push, push,

push, push. That's a mega performance. Yeah. No, he's going to probably, if it's your first kid, well, if it's any kid, he's not going to do jokes because I tried to do a joke and then I was like shut down quickly by everyone in the room and then it was no jokes. You just get a look and you know it's not a joke in place. I think we've all gotten that look before where you try to bring some levity to a situation that's not always appreciated. Yeah. Yeah. That is funny though. Push, push. Yeah, just do it in your head. Yeah, maybe whisper it. Yeah. Hey guys, especially dad cat. I recently stopped breast pumping for my four month old, but my left boob won't stop producing milk. Do you have any tips to solve this problem?

No, I do not. PFT? I mean, I've got a lot of ideas for how that works. Sure you do, big boy. Just have somebody suck on it all the time. Just find somebody that wants to suck on it and just let them suck. How early on in hooking up? Wait, could you actually like blow into it like you're blowing bubbles if you blew into the nipple? Why are you asking me? I don't blow into tits. Well, speaking of cat tits, if I was with a lady that gave birth to my child, I would really explore the breasts and the whole milk situation. Have you tried it? Have you tasted it? No. That's kind of weird. I would definitely taste the breast milk. I don't think you would. You can sell it online. Billy knows all about that. It's like the most valuable thing for body

builders. For girl, dad, big cat, how do I get my tatas to be as perky as yours? I know people give you shit. I know people give you shit, but I am seriously jealous. Thanks. It's the big bend diet. It's do 20 push-ups every like two or three months right before you have to take your shirt off and then you're good to go. No, that's mean. I know I have breasts. I'm working on it. I don't know if you guys noticed, but I haven't been eating carbs. Lost a couple pounds going to keep working. All right, last one. Also, I want to say I like your shirt today a lot. Oh, thank you. It's my can you give me an Australian party shirt accent? It's my posse shit. There it is. It's chilling. Last one. I saw on my boyfriend's phone a list of girls and I was at the bottom of the list.

When I asked him about it, when I asked him about it, he said it was all the girls he kissed, not all the girls he said sex with. Yeah. No, every guy has that. Is he telling the truth? Yeah. Do guys keep lists of who they kiss? Why was there a list of girls he kissed but not the girls he's fucked? He said it was so the list was longer. Question mark. Thanks. Oh my God. It's a totally normal thing that every guy does. We've all got our list of smooches. We care it with us. Yeah, just believe him on this one. You don't want to dig too deep on... Hey, babe, what's your number? 10,000? No kisses. Oh, 40,000. Like, what is it? Who does... Could be 45 if we're talking no tongue too. You count your like aunt? You kiss on the cheek? Oh, that counts. Probably. Yeah,

but if you're trying to get the list as long as you can, you really... Girls that I kissed. Oh my God. Wait, there's actually a possibility that this person is in sixth grade. That's true. And so if you're a 12-year-old listener of Pardon My Take, then yeah, I think probably every guy has a list at least in their brain in sixth grade of girls he kissed. Yes, yes. Just hope that it's... Look, the worst case that you're thinking right now is that it's girls that he's fucked, which a hundred percent is, but the worst worst case is what if he was just ranking the girls that he's fucked that he likes in your last? Dennis, really bad. So just hope it's not that. Yeah, I mean, it sounds... For your sake, it could be the girls that he's fucked in order of

most recent to least recent. Yeah. In which case, you're sitting pretty at the end of that list. Yeah, good job. Actually, if you ever... That's a little tip for guys. If you're ever suspected on cheating on somebody, you just make a list and then you leave it out somewhere that they'll find it. And she'll be like, what's this list? And it's like, oh, I made a list of all the girls I've had sex with since I was born until now. Oh, you're at the end. Oh, it's so embarrassing, I found my list. All right, Billy, recap, ready to roll. By the way, so people, Billy's back on his recap. On Monday, we fell off a little bit. And then afterwards, when we stopped taping, he was like, so I was talking to a weapons dealer and we're like, Billy, that's

exactly what we want on the recap. So he's ready to roll. Well, so first things first, Christian Yellich talked about a velcro sound coming off the ball. And I was really hoping that I'm going to go look for it online in the replays, but I really want to hear what that noise sounded like in the solo stadium last year. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I give you a little tip. Yeah. Even if you don't find any that make that sound, add some in and post and then you're going to go so viral. Yeah. Be like, hey, check out, do it for maybe not actually do it for Gary Cole. Okay. Yeah. All right. The longest we're gonna say. Nope. The longest home run in MLB history before stat cast was 582 feet in 1987. And but sodos was the longest in the stat cast. Who hit

that one? Wait, you found it. He found the distance. I just wanted to confirm. I just wanted to confirm that. That feels like you keep going. I'll find it. It feels like such a fake stat. It was probably that Glenn Allen Hill home run. Yeah, they hit the hit the building. Actually, we should be asking Bubba. Bubba knows all the all the mashing taters. Longest home runs in home. Oh, that's home run Derby history. Aaron Judge, we were there for that. Yeah. 513. What's the sickest home run of all time, Bubba? I still think the Barry Barnes at Yankee Stadium when it goes into like third duck. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. All right. Longest like two seconds. Longest verified home run was Babe Ruth at Tiger Stadium. He he hit one 575 feet.

I feel like feet were smaller back then. And that's that's the longest that we have. So 575. I found 582 1987. But you don't know who. But it keeps going. Anyway, Ryan Burr, he was the one who also broke the Belichick Guerrero story where they were fighting. So there may be truth to this Ben Roffensberg diet because he did break the TB12 diet story. That ended up being completely true and they never won another Super Bowl after it, right? Hey, yeah. Joey Meyer of the Denver Zephyrs. That was your 582 mile high. The Denver Zephyrs. And Denver Zephyrs. He could forget. Yep. Okay. Also, Stephen A. Smith also had to apologize to Nigeria. He apologized to multiple countries. Yeah, he just did. I'm sorry to everyone. Yeah.

Everyone in a huge like it looked like a college athlete like apologizing for something. It was like a big note app. Also, just so funny when Stephen A. Smith has to put on his serious voice. Yeah. It's just a it's like a very funny thing to watch him have to like go and be like, now yesterday I said some things. Well, because you always expect when he uses that hushed tone. Because Stephen A. is so good at that he makes you lean in and listen to him talk when he gets real soft. Yeah. And then he comes over the top and he raises his voice. And that's when he smashes you. So when he's like, I'd like to apologize to all the viewers out there of Nigerian descent for absolutely nothing. Yeah, right. You expect for him to come over the top with it.

Right. Right. And also, I can totally see how Jake broke his ankle on a flat surface after seeing that video. Oh, also, the Jake video, he is someone pointed out online, big JJ taking free merch from a program. That's true. Interesting. Well, I mean, it was just it was just Rico walking out with a giant box. Yeah. And there were young boys inside of it. Jake is now a pedophile as well. No, don't say that. Don't say that. No, it's the what's the baby's blood that's in there? It's the platelet rich baby's blood Jake was walking out. I'm just saying if he's wearing some Arkansas swag, it's tough for him to be completely neutral. I don't think that he should be allowed to commentate on SEC basketball next season. Correct. Agreed. He should recuse himself.

All things hog related. Yes. Tortoises have known natural lifetime. They can only be killed by other things. They never die of old age. I thought we didn't we talk about this. We can't die of old age. Jellyfish. There's jellyfish age. Tortoises. They need like something else to kill them. Like a like an art attack. Nature. Yeah, like nature. Time. I think tortoises do die Billy. They do die, but they don't have any like no choice dies in natural causes. Like if you left a tortoise alone and kept like forever. Right. There was a short there was a tortoise named Curious George. Lonesome George. Lonesome George. I actually mushed Lonesome George. Yeah. What does that mean? I went to Ecuador. It was the oldest living animal on the earth.

Right. I went to Ecuador, went out to the Galapagos Islands. I was going to meet Lonesome George the next day. The night before he died. He was like 180 years old. The whole time. I don't think he mushed him. I think he just didn't like you. Yeah, he actually pulled a smart move. So you killed Curious Lonesome George. Allegedly. Billy, by the way, you're back. That was great. That's exactly what we're looking for. 69, 8, 59. That was exactly what we're looking for, Billy. Round of applause for Billy. Yeah, Billy. 69 is on the bottom. Good stand on top. Effors. Oh my God. Oh my God. Dude, 69 was just bouncing around on top 65. 65 so close. Also, Billy asked if he could write a blog for tomorrow's show from the interview. Jake is absolutely going to listen

to the show and he's going to try to get that blog out super early, I bet. A blog off, boys. It's a blog off. We got a blog off. Who's going to blog at first? I'll just do it right now. Jake, if you're listening, feel free to blog what you think you should be doing about your SEC journalistic liabilities for next year. No, you know what, Billy? You cuck him. I'm not actually lazy. We're not saying that. Listen, we're ending the show, but blog the discussion about Jake's handshake. Okay. Yeah. Love you guys. It's part of my tape presented by Barb Stool Sports.