Pardon My Take - Cincinnati Head Coach Luke Fickell, MLB Trade Deadline, NFL Suspensions + Mt Rushmore Of Fruit

Episode Date: August 3, 2022

MLB Trade Deadline happened and Juan Soto is now a Padre after a blockbuster deal (00:03:35-00:19:17). Deshaun Watson was suspended and the Dolphins lost draft picks for tampering (00:19:17-00:37:05).... Hot Seat/Cool Throne including a deep dive on Batgirl and we introduce our new Producer Max from Philly (00:37:05-01:10:12). Cincinnati Head Coach Luke Fickell joins the show to talk about his incredible 2021, being Mike Vrabel's roommate at OSU, recruiting in today's CFB era, Football and more (01:10:12-01:45:48). We finish with the Mt Rushmore of Fruit (01:45:48-02:13:00)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have Cincinnati Bearcats head coach Luke Fickle. We also have a lot of sports to discuss. MLB trade deadline was crazy, was brazy, sorry.
Starting point is 00:00:23 Uh, oh, yeah, it was, it was brazy. We had, uh, the Dolphins lose some draft picks. Deshaun Watson was suspended. We're gonna do Hot Seat Cool Throne. We're gonna do the Mount Rushmore of Fruits, which we have not done yet. Surprisingly, that will get contentious, I would assume. Big show, and we're brought to you by our friends at whatnot.
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Starting point is 00:01:33 Maybe something from the stew. How much do you think we get for the ping-pong ball machine? Whoa. I'm just asking. I'm just- I don't, I don't think return on investment. Well, no, we could flip it and get a new one. I don't, I don't know that we could.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Yeah, I like this one too. I like this one too. This one cost us $1,000. I think it was $5,000. Oh, it might have been. I don't even know. We bought it so long ago. It was $5,000.
Starting point is 00:01:51 It might have been $5,000. Why are you standing this Lotto machine? It hates you. No, that's more. I, I, I, I, maybe it was $5,000. I thought it was $5,000. I was just saying, I don't know that there's another human out there that is just gonna throw $5,000 on the ping-pong ball machine.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Yeah, I think it was. By the way, it's almost a two-year birthday. Yeah, so that's how long. Yeah. We did like eight or nine drawings. Jake, you have the birthday for the Lotto machine. It's saved in your calendar. I have the dates for each one that, of the drawing.
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Starting point is 00:02:29 When Hank gets a number correct, we're auctioning off the ping-pong ball machine. And then we'll flip it and buy a new one. I kind of want to give it away before he gets one. No, no, no, no. I want to, he has to, he has to pick the last correct winner. If he never picks a winner, we'll never get rid of it. That's history right there. Yeah, that's true.
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Starting point is 00:04:08 Love to see him go to the Padres. No, we don't. We don't love to see it all. Yes. I went through, I went through a lot of steps of the grieving process today. Hank, don't even turn your mic on. I'm not even going to, Hank, pre-shot the fuck up. Pre-shot the fuck up, Hank.
Starting point is 00:04:22 Let me talk about Juan Soto. At the end, at the end. My big baseball boy is gone. I'm gonna miss him. He's 23. He's Ted Williams. He might be better than Ted Williams. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:04:33 He did win a World Series. Babe Ruth and Barry Bonds combined. He did win us a World Series and I love Juan Soto. I'm very sad to see him go. Just brought up all the feelings that I've had for the last three years being a Nats fan. And granted, we did get a World Series. So I'm not gonna cry too much about it. But we've had a lot of players that leave.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It happens all the time. We're the minor league team. We're the farm system for Major League Baseball. It's a wonder that we got one World Series. I'm very grateful for that. But I did go through every single step of the grieving process today. I couldn't believe it when it happened. I convinced myself last night that we were not going to trade them.
Starting point is 00:05:08 It was all gonna work out. I was gonna be fine. I was gonna be happy. The world would be perfect. It'd be all sunshine and rainbows. Did not work out that way. He's going to the Padres. So the steps that I went through in this process,
Starting point is 00:05:20 first denial and then I was bargaining. I was like, you know what? Juan Soto damaged goods, ruined his swing at the home run derby. Here's a little stat for you. I know you're a math guy. His swinging strike rate. This is per stat hole sports. Our good friend, follow him on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:05:34 He's got great, unusual stats. Smart guy. He says that Juan Soto's swinging strike rate is up from 5.3% to 9.7% on the first two pitches of an at-bat post home run derby. Now I'm not a world-renowned math educated person, but that's about double. That's pretty much double. And then I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:05:56 We're going to sign Juan Soto when he becomes a free agent again in two years. So we could, or three years, we could get that. That could work out. Two years, two and a half years. And then I said to myself, well, let's see what happens to the game tonight. Oh yeah, we're beating Jake DeGrom and the New York Mets. The Washington Nationals are better without Juan Soto.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah. So now I've come out the other side and I'm starting to, I've accepted reality, but at the same time, I'm still bitter about the way things went down. But okay, so you did go through the range of emotions we watched. And you were even like asking questions to the air of like, you know, spin zones. Then whenever we said something, you just swat it down and you weren't even like, no, I don't even, I don't want to listen to that.
Starting point is 00:06:41 But here's, here's the bottom line is I see it and you can swat this one down. The Nationals were never going to resign them. So you got a lot. The Padres aren't going to resign them. Yeah, the Padres. The Yankees or the Dodgers are the only two teams that are going to afford Juan Soto. So you had to trade them and it was a good trade. It wasn't, we got a haul.
Starting point is 00:07:04 We fleece the Padres and be very careful what you wish for Padres. Because do you think, is there a little bit of Manny Machado that's like a little bit pissed off that they have expectations now? I don't know. I think, I think the Padres, I mean, Manny Machado, Fernando Tattis and Juan Soto is, I mean, I would say it's the most electric three stars in the game. And Luke Foyt. And Luke Foyt.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Oh wait. Yeah, he's not there anymore. I do. Eric Cosmer, oh wait, he's not there. Eric Cosmer was trending on Twitter because he was, he held up the deal with his no trade clause. You have a no trade clause for a reason. Anyone who's mad at Eric Cosmer, like that's the point of the no trade clause.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And then he got traded to the Red Sox right after. So I just think that Juan Soto is an incredible player. Actually, PFT, you should just be mad at Juan Soto for being so good that you couldn't afford him. He got so good that only two teams in Major League Baseball can afford him. That's how good we are at developing players on the Nationals. It's not your fault. You'll be able to do it again probably. It's not your fault.
Starting point is 00:08:01 It's Juan Soto's fault. He got too good. I ran through the prospects that we got. Here's what I got. Mackenzie Gore, cool name. Robert Hassell. Chick name. Well, sounds like a hot chick.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Could be like a hot chick tiktoker or like a Scottish warlord. Mackenzie Gore is like, she is a senior at Michigan State. CJ Abrams, cool name. Sounds like he directs movies where like Superman beats up the devil. James Wood, cool name, kind of. He sounds like he's in the movie where Superman beats up the devil, but he plays just a regular human being. Yeah, I actually looked up some deep stats on James Wood.
Starting point is 00:08:36 This is when I was in just like, make yourself feel better, PFT. So I found some stats on him on Twitter. He has a 0.412 XWOBA and a 0.449 XWOBA-CON. So those are the highest of those numbers that I've ever seen. Yep. In what league? Whatever league that he's in currently. I was going to say, if it was double A, that's one thing, but triple A.
Starting point is 00:09:00 He's whiffing. He only whiffs at 13% of pitches in the zone. So that's good. And I saw somebody say that he has more RBIs and strikeouts. I don't know much about baseball, but that also sounds good. I forget who we're talking about. This is Juan Soto. That's a prospect.
Starting point is 00:09:13 We're talking prospects. We're getting, listen, we're real seam heads on the show. Then we got Jarlene Susana, cool name. He throws 100 miles per hour and he's 18. So that's a plus grade on upgrading on youth from Juan Soto. So I'd say fleeced. Yeah. Again, I don't know as much as it sucks.
Starting point is 00:09:30 They had to do this. He wasn't going to resign. And again, I don't think he's going to resign with the Padres. The Padres actually made a great move because they are going to get Juan Soto for this October, maybe next October, and then just flip him again. Yeah. And get prospects again. Juan Soto is also going to look awesome in the Padres Ultimate uniforms.
Starting point is 00:09:49 The Padres are going to be very fun. Yeah. The Padres are going to be very, very fun. Those games against the Dodgers are going to be even more fun. San Diego's back. San Diego's back. They got Josh Hader from the Brewers as well. What were you going to say, Hank?
Starting point is 00:10:00 What was your? I was just going to say today was different because we were on an exciting shoot, but we were in close quarters all day long. So we experienced the grieving process with PFT the entire day. And I was just laughing because we were doing different stuff. And PFT was talking about it. And then we did something else for like an hour. And the second it ended, before I walked over and he was like,
Starting point is 00:10:25 you know what I was thinking? And then he just started talking about the Nationals process. No. I was like, what? You know what I said? Yeah. I was just sitting by. We weren't talking about that.
Starting point is 00:10:31 I was sitting by myself staring off in nowhere. And I was like, Luke Floyd's pretty good, right? Yeah. Like he's a good player. So yeah, you said that. You said he was a seven. I was like a seven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 And then you said in the Nationals. Yeah. In the Nationals, which is perfect because it lines up right along with that scale of he's, oh, he's a DC five or he's a DC seven, but he's a New York five. Right. Exactly. But I, here's, here's what could be worse. PFT.
Starting point is 00:10:56 You could be the Cubs who didn't trade Wilson Contreras. And he's going to walk for a huge bag at the end of the year. And then the Cubs will be like, oh, we got a compensation, a compensation pick. Compensatory. Compensatory. Compensatory pick. Yeah. That's way worse.
Starting point is 00:11:10 They literally dangled this guy for an entire month. They won't give him an extension and now they don't trade them and they look like idiots. And then they're going to be like, oh, we got an extra pick. That's way worse. Juan Soto, like the Nationals doing something and getting that crazy value for him. I applaud them. I applaud them. And Juan Soto is, it's his fault for being too good.
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah. That's really what it is. And Scott Boris. I'm going to blame Scott Boris too. Well, that's why I just need people to blame. I need, just give me somebody to point out and be like, I hate that guy. Well, that's, and that's why it's so funny because it's like, Juan Soto was not going to sign with the Nationals.
Starting point is 00:11:43 He's not going to sign with the Padres. If the Cubs had traded for him, he wouldn't have signed there. He wouldn't have signed in St. Louis. Why not the Padres? He's good because they're not going to be able to afford them. Like they have a lot of money guarantee to Tati's. Fernando Tati's and Juan Soto are under 20. Both of them are 23 years old, I think.
Starting point is 00:11:58 They're, it's going to be the Dodgers or didn't you see at the All Star game, weren't they chanting future Dodger? And he was like, yeah, that's me. I'm a future Dodger. I mean, you're going to pay me $500 million. The reality of the situation is that in a couple of years time, when he does become a free agent, he's going to get a contract that's far going to eclipse with the Nationals.
Starting point is 00:12:15 It's going to be $500 million. It's going to be the Dodgers of the eight. He's going to get paid a shitload of money. So I guess good for him. I mean, he deserves every penny. He's a great player. It's just sad when you see a player that like, I had personally been telling myself, I don't get nice things usually as DC sports fans.
Starting point is 00:12:31 But it's like, I had just lied to myself and said, I'm going to turn 50 years old and I'm going to go to the game where Juan Soto retires isn't that. Yeah, it was nice. We were joking like he, the Nationals obviously gave him, the fans gave him a standing ovation and being like, oh man, we're going to miss you. He's 23.
Starting point is 00:12:48 He's 23. And it was like a standing ovation that Albert Pujos is going to get. He's 23. And that's legend. It's crazy. He's never, there's never, there's never been a talent like him at his age who got traded midseason. I would, I don't, I don't know the, all the history of baseball.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Tim Kirchner would be like, well, and you know, 1922, I don't even know like rare, you know, Bobby railroad Jones got traded for some other guy. And it was huge. Like he was only 21 years old. This has never happened. There's never been an all-star 23 at his caliber getting traded midseason. Yep. And 23.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Anything else about the trade deadline? Because I was going to, I was going to say right as this was happening, NFL is king moment. Yeah. Well, so we should, we should mention a couple of teams. The twins are going for it. I like, there's teams. I just basically do the trade deadline if you're going for it or not.
Starting point is 00:13:38 Twins are going for it. Mariners going for it. Mariners are going for it. Astros already were going for it, but they're extra going for it. Yankees going for it. Except for the Jordan Montgomery trade that makes no sense. Jake, do you want to, it makes no sense. The Yankees are going to now lose in the playoffs because they don't have starting
Starting point is 00:13:52 pitching and they traded Jordan. Here's the thing. Stanton's on the aisle. Jones has injury pass. So maybe it's just a little insurance in the outfield. I guess, but you need pitching. Yeah. Well, they got to wait in October.
Starting point is 00:14:03 They actually got the guy from the cup. It's pitching right now. The reliever. Yes. But they, the problem was they, oh, and he just gave up the jong. Please. Jake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:13 Please. Saved by the warning track in the short form. Um, it, it's, it's, uh, I think they were trying to get someone from the Marlins, right? Yeah. Pablo Lopez. Yeah. And then it fell through.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah. They got a closer, right? They got Lou Trevino. Yeah. Yeah. They got the guys from the A's. And I think I, I just saw that name come across the screen. I was like, that's, that's just a perfect name for Yankees closer that we're all going to hate.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Well, they're going to have Trevino pitching to Trevino. I know. Wow. Wow. That is wild. You think they're related? No. Cause they have the N.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Yeah. You have the N. Yeah. Maybe way back. Maybe Trevino got his name changed at Ellis Island. Yeah. Everything about that. Sure.
Starting point is 00:14:52 They always got Frankie Montas. Yeah. Who got them? The Yankees got the pictures from these. Yeah. So, and then they, and then the, the potteries are obviously going for it. Yeah. I'm trying to think the.
Starting point is 00:15:02 The Philly's got Noah Cindergaard. Yeah. The Philly's are going for it. They put the mess. It kind of stinks now though. Still Noah Cindergaard. Yeah. He still could be.
Starting point is 00:15:08 He still knows. Okay. The Mets are not, I'm not doing anything. They got DeGrom back. They signed DeGrom today. Right. They signed Jacob DeGrom and then the Mets offense immediately disappeared. Which has got to drive him absolutely insane.
Starting point is 00:15:22 The Orioles did a classic Orioles thing. I hate them. Which has traded their dead players and issued a statement. Maybe, maybe one of the best all time loser franchise statements just being like, you know what? After running the math, we decided that we, we were probably not going to get the wild card this year. I hate them so much.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So we're going to get rid of it. And then, then they signed and then they traded for an outfielder today. Yeah. No, I hate them. Which made no sense because when they're giving up their players that they did yesterday, they've got a good, I forget the guy's name. The kid's name, he's a. Hadley Rushman.
Starting point is 00:15:50 He's an outfielder in their farm system that they were like really looking forward to bringing up. They're like, oh, well, this creates a spot for him to come up to the big leagues and get some reps in. But then they just traded for a guy that plays his position. I hate them. I hate them. They, I was so excited about my bet. I was going to get into the Orioles.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I was going to tweet Birdland and all that shit. And then they just, they're like, yeah, we're only, we're two and a half games out of the wild card game we were folding. And it's just stupid. Hate them. Why play the games? Dead to me. Dead to me.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Why play the games? Why? That's a great loser franchise thing to do to tell all your, your players that are young and promising that they're fucking losers. That's what you did. That's what you did. Anyone else going for it? I think the Cardinals made some moves.
Starting point is 00:16:35 They're going for it. They're always fucking going for it. So the Yankees got Bader, who's on the aisle, but they're expecting him to return for the season. They let go of Joey Gallo. I don't know if you guys saw the quotes. You see the quotes? No.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Super depressing. Oh, oh, the story that was written about him last week. Yeah. Where he's like, I don't go on the streets. He's like, every day for the rest of my life, I'm going to realize I failed for the Yankees. Oh God. Whoa. Okay, Joey.
Starting point is 00:16:57 So it was heavy stuff. It's like, I think you could probably walk in Manhattan without people like it's Manhattan. I would not know Joey Gallo. No. Fuck you. So he doesn't leave his apartment. Honestly, just take your hat off and you'll be fine. Don't wear a Yankees hat.
Starting point is 00:17:11 He's wearing his full uniform. People keep yelling at me. Don't wear anything with pinstripes on it. Like if you're wearing a suit, make sure that it's a pattern color. Yes. And you're good. He said, well, they asked, have you been living in Manhattan? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 What's it been like for you when the Yankees fans notice you on the streets? Are they rough on you away from the ballpark too? I don't go out on the streets. In the streets. That's sad. Yeah. I really don't want to show my face too much around here. I think he's mistaking being himself for just like living in New York.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. Like that's that's generally true for everyone. This guy honked at me. Yeah. And like I was walking on the sidewalk and this guy was like, you motherfucker. Yeah. This guy bumped into me and then they tried to give me a someone tried to give me a free CD. He's like this whole fucking terrible here.
Starting point is 00:17:52 This homeless guy spit on me on the train. Yes. It's unfortunate, but New York fans are New York fans. Let's go back. So you can say it. That's true. That's true. They're going to be harsh.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Also, we should mention the Reds did a good job of getting rid of guys, which like they were. They're in that. That's actually driving more crazy like teams. The Mets are good. Yeah. You probably if you're a Mets fan, you're pissed that they didn't do anything. But like I said, like the Cubs have no excuse for not trading Wilson Contreras Trairs after not giving them an extension.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Like either give them an extension or trade them. Don't let him just walk. Yeah. That's way worse. So the Reds traded a bunch of guys and they got a bunch of prospects. That's fun. You get some prospects. I'm a look at them.
Starting point is 00:18:34 I need to know if we're okay with like not hating the Astros anymore or do we still hate them? Trayman Cena makes them a lot more like. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like it's tough now. I think I'll never get over them not getting the proper post. Yeah. Like they never got they never got the the hate that they deserve because of COVID.
Starting point is 00:18:54 COVID Rob. And I don't know that I'll get over that until like all the players on the team. I feel like Altuve being there forever. Like as long as Altuve is there. It's like, yeah, you guys did that. Yeah. Yeah. That's just going to be it.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Okay. Yeah. Let's talk some NFL. And there's people. There's there's there's the there's like the Astros fans that are like trying to, you know, whitewash everything on Twitter that's like he didn't cheat. He didn't cheat. There was no cheating.
Starting point is 00:19:16 It's like. He had a buzzer. Yeah. We saw it. Yeah. And he said, what do you say? He didn't want to take his shirt off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:21 Because his wife didn't like it when his shirt was off. Yeah. They didn't want other people to see his his nipples. Yeah. An athlete doesn't want his shirt off. Okay. All right. NFL, we should start.
Starting point is 00:19:32 I mean, we should probably go in chronological order. Sean Watson, six game suspension. People are upset. There's a lot of people. Actually, I don't know. Let me ask you this PFT. Do you think the majority of people that are upset, do you think they realize that this was not Roger Goodell's decision?
Starting point is 00:19:48 I think the majority of people are upset just because they need to be upset about this. Right. They, they, no matter what was issued, it's still like, oh, well, he's a scumbag. Right. You know, like, and it's sometimes people mistake the NFL for an actual branch of law enforcement. Right. Roger Goodell used to think that he was a cop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Probably, probably still kind of does. Yes. But he did something very smart in the last CBA, which was he said, I'm not going to be the judge. I'm not going to be the jury until the judge makes their official statement. And then if I don't like that, then it's like, here comes the judge. Roger Goodell, I'm back. So then who's the bad guy walks in and he gets to do it. So they have three days, I think till Thursday to appeal this.
Starting point is 00:20:29 But I do think like the initial reaction, a lot of people were like, oh, Tom Brady got this or Ray Rice got like, Roger Goodell, what is he doing? It's like, he had nothing to do with this decision. Right. He actually, the league recommended a year to indefinite. They wanted a year to an indefinite suspension. It was only six. The other part, I mean, I will say, and I'm sure we might have some Browns fans upset,
Starting point is 00:20:54 but I will go one more than scumbag. I think to Sean Watson is a predator and he's a bad guy. But the problem with how this all shook out is he settled with a lot of the women. And then I think I saw it was like 24. There was 24 cases that Sue Robinson was able to review. And then there was four testimonies that she got. So she only got four. Four women were only able to testify for whatever different reasons.
Starting point is 00:21:20 So she basically got whittled through to Sean Watson paying people off and other things happening to only four people. And she made her judgment. I don't think, I think it probably should have been more, but I also, I don't understand a lot of this. So there's a couple of things that I read. She called it, she called his behavior predatory and egregious. And if you read anything and which read the thing, which it was, it was predatory.
Starting point is 00:21:45 That's what she said. Those are her words. And she's like six games. If somebody's actually a predator, six games does seem a little light. Now, if you were to ask OJ Simpson and nobody did, but OJ decided to weigh in. Well, it was actually a very classy statement. OJ said, what's up, Twitter world? First of all, I want to remember a late, great champion, Bill Russell and his great career.
Starting point is 00:22:07 And also to Sean Watson is getting suspended. So he very nicely segwayed into that. Right. OJ Simpson, OJ Simpson should be the guy that Roger Goodell says like, you're the one that decides. You're the arbiter. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:18 You're the judge, the jury. And I guess it's got life experience. No, yeah. No. No. Was he for or against it? Billy. He, OJ Simpson didn't even give to Sean Watson the benefit of the doubt of innocence.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Well, I mean, if you've read the testimonies, I would say that's fair to not give him the benefit of the doubt of innocence anymore. If he did it, then he should be suspended. This is how he would have. And then he took off his pants. Yeah. So the other thing that I saw in the report was there's a provision that he's only allowed to use team masseuses, team issued masseuses for the rest of his career.
Starting point is 00:22:52 So that's probably why not? No massage. If you have to be told that you're only allowed to use like state sanctioned masseuse, if you have a masseuse problem to the point where your masseuse use is being monitored, you probably should not be trusted to be playing football on a football team. Also, they should have just said you get a massage chair. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Exactly. You get a massage chair. You don't get them hand. You don't get a person. You get a massage chair. Yeah. Just do it yourself. Get a leg roller.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So I think people are upset too, and rightfully so. And this is the cynical side of the world. And we all know this. If you watch the NFL, if you watch pro sports, the Browns made a bet that this was going to be around what they suspended to Sean Watson for, and their bet paid off. Like the Browns, it's very fucked up to say, but the Browns have to be happy because they traded a lot for to Sean Watson, who they want to be their franchise quarterback, hoping that he would be suspended for less than half a season.
Starting point is 00:23:48 And that's what happened. Also, NFL rigged the first six games that they have are the easiest schedule in the league. Yeah. We mentioned that. Remember, we mentioned that on the schedule release. Yeah. That the people were saying, look at this. They're setting it up.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I wonder if there's going to be something in the suspension. You remember when Big Ben had that happen to him? Yeah. And they gave him eight games. And they said, as long as you promise not to commit any more sexual assaults until the NFL season, then I'll reduce it until four. And so they, they halved his suspension at the last minute because of good behavior. I don't think they're going to have this.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Probably not. It sounds to me like what Gidell was trying to do was he went heavy handed with what he recommended, knowing that the judge would go underneath it. He would look good. And then if he, if he disagreed with what the judge said, then he could argue for it to be increased to eight. Right. That's, that's to me.
Starting point is 00:24:34 And you also knew that they, the, that Sean Watson was going to be fine with it when the NFL PA I think released a statement saying, we're not going to appeal. Yeah. It's like, no duh, six games. And what, what does the Sean Watson lose? Like nothing money wise. Yeah. He loses three, I think $300,000, 350,000.
Starting point is 00:24:51 That's insane. I mean, that's what I'm saying though. That's the cynical side that the Browns basically set this up where they gave them all this guaranteed money and they knew that like, okay, you're going to be suspended. It probably won't be a year, but we'll be okay. Let me save you because I've seen a bunch of Browns fans get really pissed off about that. Apparently the Browns do that with every contract that they put out there so that they can push the cap ramifications off to like the backside of the career.
Starting point is 00:25:15 So 250 million to everyone. So 250 million to everyone guaranteed. Now, yeah, the, the, the size of the contract is much different than everybody else, but that's like a standard practice they do. It just so happens that it really worked out. It worked out. Yeah. And I, I mean, I'm not going to, you can't, I'm not going to sit here and be like,
Starting point is 00:25:30 Browns fans, how dare you, because it's fucking NFL. I'm just saying that the Browns made a cynical bet. It worked out. Yes. And people have a right to be upset. Yeah. I mean, personally, like I don't, I don't know. It doesn't really enter into my brain when I see somebody that's accused of sexually assault
Starting point is 00:25:45 incredibly, um, you know, over 20 people to figure out like, Oh, well, what does that translate into? How many football games I think he should race, right? I think the problem is like a little bit bigger than, than that. Yeah. It's like, okay, so a person is a quarter. Yes. That's what like, yeah, that you don't think like that.
Starting point is 00:26:01 No one should think like that. That was the Manziel math, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, you shouldn't, it shouldn't enter your, your, your brain. So yeah, it's a, I don't know what's, what's like the reaction to be when he comes back. I mean, I'm sure the Browns fans will, when he wins, winning cures all. Yeah. Browns fans love them.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I know that in about five years, there will be a big like feature on Monday night football about the redemption of Deshaun Watson. He hasn't jacked off into a woman in, in almost six years now. Yeah. And so they'll, you know, break out the slow piano. It'll be like right before a dreary NFL Sunday and everybody will just move on. That's kind of sadly how it all works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:37 He hasn't threatened any, any woman's business saying, I'll ruin your life or anything like that in at least a month. Yeah. So you gotta give people, you gotta give people the benefit of the doubt, but Deshaun Watson did some of that shit. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. So, um, yeah, I guess we'll see, we'll see what happens if, if Roger, I, I think it'll happen tomorrow because they're not going to want to do it on the Hall of Fame game night. So, um, this is where Florio really shines. Today was a great day to be Mike Florio because if there's nothing that has to do with like legal ramifications, Florio starts firing off the takes and that's when he gets to be a problem. But he gets to deal with like legal stuff and contract issues today.
Starting point is 00:27:16 So he was saying that there's a chance that the league could, I forget the exact word, but it's basically like appealing the appeal, which could push it back as many as two weeks. And they probably don't want it to be on the same day as the Hall of Fame game. No, they're going to appeal the appeal until Labor Day. Yeah. And then appeal the appeal on Friday before Labor Day week. Exactly. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Genius. Roger Goodell does it again. Hank, are you, are you, now that we've laid everything out, are you, are you mad about the Brady suspension? Because that was, I did see a lot of people being like Brady for games. Sean Watson. I mean, I'm just, I, I didn't know what you were saying in the beginning about the CBA. That obviously happened after the Brady thing.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Because if that was, if that was put in court, then Roger Goodell would be in jail. Roger Goodell used to decide the suspensions.
Starting point is 00:28:02 He, this is the first time he hasn't. So that's where it's a little confusing. I would have loved to have seen that case get played out in front of a judge. Would have gone a lot different probably. Yeah. Yeah. Billy, you have an inquisitive look on your face. Billy looks like the dog.
Starting point is 00:28:14 He's about to say something really, really stupid. The garage door just opened for Billy, the dog. Calvin Ridley was before that CBA decision was made. Calvin Ridley, I don't know after, I think it was after, but I also think Calvin Ridley, that's like an open shot violation. Yeah. Gambling is just, it's a, it was just basically you gambled. You're out.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Which is also, that is hypocritical in a whole different realm. Yes. And I agree. Free Calvin Ridley, I'm, I'm for that. I do think it's a lot easier to do that internal math where you're like, oh, he gambled on a football game. How many football games should he miss? Right.
Starting point is 00:28:47 But when you hold it up like apples to apples, was it 17 games now for gambling on, for putting in a $500 Parley and then with the Sean Watts. It didn't even win 1500. It doesn't, it doesn't add up. So like there are a bunch of people that, that think that they're being very, very smart online being like, well, you know, like Aaron Hernandez never got suspended. That's just really just me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:11 I mean, there's, it's again, to sum it up, I think to Sean Watson as a predator, I don't think Brown's fans should have to apologize for what their team does. Like that's not, that's just, that's, if we had to do that as sports fans, we'd just be apologizing left and right. And yeah, nobody would even have a team to root because guess what humans? Yeah. They fuck up sometimes pretty bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Pretty, there are shitty people everywhere. All right. So the Dolphins on a lighter note, they got a first round draft pick taken away, second round draft pick taken away, third, third round draft pick taken away for tampering with Tom Brady multiple times and Sean Payton. That one was like a duo because it was Don Yee, I think represents Sean Payton and Tom Brady and Steven Ross got suspended till October 17th, which is always hilarious when an owner gets suspended.
Starting point is 00:30:00 It's like, oh, so what is he going to do? Probably take his yacht to fucking Italy. I don't know. Yeah. He just can't be in the stadium for the games. Right. So he gets to watch TV at home. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:08 He's going to go on vacation more. Yeah. He's going to go on vacation. He's going to go on a great vacation and watch the TV, watch the Dolphins afterwards. Jake. Next man or woman up, Fergie, Mark Anthony, and the William sisters are also part of I vote Fergie. I'm voting for Fergie.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Yeah. Yeah. No, it's Serena. Serena. Yeah. Yeah. Not Venus, just Serena. So Jake, what do you think about this?
Starting point is 00:30:32 I will say quickly that I did say on these airways that I didn't think that the tampering was happening and I was proven wrong today. So oh yeah. That's right. He said that it was me and Florio making it up. Yeah. That was that fell under the PFT fan fiction. Hank, would you like to apologize to me?
Starting point is 00:30:47 I would like to apologize to everyone, all the listeners for saying that I didn't believe that I was wrong. I still don't. And you PFT. Thank you, Hank. Tampering to me still, I'd never, when people get accused of tampering in pro sports leagues, I'm like, wait, so they're just talking like every profession talks? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:03 And that's why Belichick tampered with Florio. Yeah. I'm going to say, Hank, a nice thing about you, like take a bow Bill Belichick. Right. This was your masterpiece. Yes. Yes. By implicating the Dolphins and doing some backyard stuff along with the Giants.
Starting point is 00:31:20 It sounds like that's what triggered the entire thing to happen with Flores suing the NFL. They did investigation. They found that, yes, Belichick did get fucked over by the Dolphins. Yeah. No throwing, no throwing games. They did. They did rule that. Well, no, they said it was just a joke.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. Yeah. They said, but it's a no, no, no parody law. Like they're not getting $100,000 to throw games, but he was kind of just playing. Yeah. But Brian Flores just didn't listen. If he had listened and that came out today, like he would be ruined. Like he was, he did the right thing by not listening.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I don't think it was a joke. By not throwing the game. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, I agree. I don't think it was a joke. Yeah. I'm saying what the NFL ruled.
Starting point is 00:31:58 The NFL did not take away any picks for that allegation. They took it away for the Brady and the Sean Payton. So it also gets interesting because they were also tampering with Sean Payton as recently as this year before he resigned as coach of the Saints and then he resigned as coach of the Saints. And then the Brian Flores stuff comes out and then the Dolphins realized, oh, shit. Yeah, we can't just hire Sean Payton now. Right.
Starting point is 00:32:23 We got to go in a different direction. And so then Sean Payton is just like, wait, I just quit my job. Right. And I was coming to Miami. Yeah. So my, my, Sean Payton was like, oh, you have a quarterback who can't throw it more than 10 yards down the field. I'm in my have a little bit of an expertise with this.
Starting point is 00:32:41 My theory. I'm in to an on. I'm sorry. That was a joke. My theory was that Sean Payton and Tom Brady were going to, it was always the plan for them to unite in Miami, that Tom Brady would then get a piece of the Miami Dolphins. Yes. He'd become a part owner in the franchise, the first ever owner player.
Starting point is 00:32:57 And then that all just blew up in his face. And so he said, okay, I'll just play for the box. Yeah. That's also Florida. Yeah. That's. And then the weird stuff with his retirement this offseason. Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:06 I think was also connected. Directly connected with all the investigations going on behind the scenes with the Dolphins. Correct. The whole thing. Like I said, a beautiful day to be Mike Florio. He probably has not. He's probably hasn't taken a piss today. He's probably just been at his laptop blogging away all day.
Starting point is 00:33:22 I think he's been pissing, but he's dyped up. This is his favorite thing. This is like when we get to watch, like if the doubleheader Monday night football, that's like the most exciting thing when we get two Monday night football games. Mike Florio gets just legal rulings left and right. And that's real NFL. What? Doubleheader.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Yeah, they did. They took away last year. Yeah. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. You remember when Mike and Mike and Mike did it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:45 That was great. Oh, yeah. That was great. Sergio dip game. There's a lot of end of pointless block game. Yeah. A lot of memories we have with those double. Things always got weird.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Yeah. The late night game always got weird. Yeah. We have big day in rulings by the NFL. So the Dolphins still do out of the 49ers first round picks. That's a lot of first round pick, but there's a lot more pressure on two and now. Because if this doesn't work out, if he has a bad year, they're not going to have a top pick unless the Niners think too.
Starting point is 00:34:11 But yeah. Yeah. Would you like to disavow the Dolphins for tampering? You pro tampering? Again, I don't understand. Tampering to me is always like the dumbest. They're like, oh, they didn't talk? I will say, you got to respect, like,
Starting point is 00:34:25 let's get Tom Brady and Sean Payton in here. Right. They didn't even work out. Talk about going for it. Like, they went for it. And also, Steven Ross. I do respect that in some way. Steven Ross is like the biggest donor to Michigan.
Starting point is 00:34:35 He's a huge Michigan guy. So like, part of me thinks like, was this even tampering or was just like Steven Ross being like, hey, Tom, wouldn't it be fucking awesome? We could watch Michigan games on Saturday. Then you could play on Sunday. Also, I read something that the other 31 other owners would have had to approve Brady being or being a part owner. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Oh, yeah. Yeah. So like, they might have done that. I feel like Kraft would have shot that down. Well, it would have raised the collective like attractive level, attractiveness level of all the owners, right? Like the owners are what? Probably like a three, five, if you combine them all together.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I think someone do a face mash of every owner. I think it would have said absolutely not to Tom Brady, because then that opens the door for like, okay, any other star player. Yeah. They're going to ask for an ownership stake. No, but they could do that. I roll for him. They could get around the salary.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Like there's not any other player. He could get around the salary cap though. It's right. Like they could be like, oh, we'll give you part of the team and not pay you as much. Now, there's a continuing development that comes out of this because there's an owner's meeting taking place, I think next week in Minnesota. Not for Jeffrey Ross. Not for Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:35:35 No, or Steven Ross. Sorry, Jeffrey Ross. That'd be weird too. Yeah. That would actually be great to have him as an owner. He should stand in place. He'd be like, Steven Ross should be like, my brother, Jeffrey. Are they related?
Starting point is 00:35:45 No. That's wild. But at this meeting that they're going to have up in Minnesota, Roderick Dell is expected to read owners the riot act when it comes to tampering. Now that's a direct quote. They're going to be fine. The riot act will be read. But you bring up a good point, which is like where it is just like having a
Starting point is 00:36:02 conversation stop and tampering start. Right. Isn't there something called freedom of speech in this country? Yep. You're just having a conversation and it happens to be that Tom Brady's in the room with you and you're talking about employing him. Could you in theory bring him in the same room and talk to a plant? That's not Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Code words. And be like, man, if Tom Brady was in this room, I would offer him 5% in this team. Right. Right. You just call him up and you'll be like, hey, Tom, how's it going? How's it going up in New England? Like, hey, warm weather down here would be real nice if you were on a boat. A real big boat.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Yeah. With a lot of money. You know what? Because boats are expensive. That's what I'm talking about. The more I think about this, the more I'm pissed off at Dan Snyder for not tampering with Tom Brady. So I'm saying everyone should tamper in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Why not? Fucking go for it. If you're not tampering, you're not trying. Have players change teams like week to week. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I imagine Roger Greedell giving the riot act like he's got to really pump himself up in the mirror beforehand and be like, don't let Jerry Jones is probably
Starting point is 00:37:03 going to heckle you. Don't, don't, don't cry this time. You're going to be fine. I actually think his speech is probably going to be written by Jerry Jones. Yeah, that's him. Give him his notes. And then he's going to pat him on the head and be like, thanks so much, Raj.
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Starting point is 00:38:45 Oh, yes, she got. She lost a huge bet. What happened? She lost a huge bet over one of her teams lost. She got hacked. The PS5 hack. A lot of people are getting it right now. She got hacked.
Starting point is 00:38:57 She sent out a picture of, I mean, I think it was the exact. Oh, yeah. No, it is. Yeah. And what is it like? It's like, hey, friends, got a great deal. Giving away these three playstations.
Starting point is 00:39:08 If you win, you get to go to a Lakers game. It must be impossible to actually give away a PS5 on Twitter. It's so funny when people, whenever I tweet that, and people are like, I can't DM you. Open your DMs. Yeah. So that's what Big Hat tweets that exact tweet when he loses, or, you know, spoil or inside baseball.
Starting point is 00:39:23 When he loses a big bet or his team loses. No, I got hacked. But so I saw it in the timeline. I was like, I was like, what big bet did Big Hat lose? I was like, oh, this is Jeannie Buss. The exact same tweet. And then she had to tweet from the Lakers personal team account and said, Lakers fan, my Twitter account has been hacked.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Please do not engage or send any money. These are not legitimate offers. The Lakers will alert you when I am back in control of my account. Jeannie Buss. Wouldn't it be great if Jeannie Buss was like, let me just do this. And then maybe we can get like a Russell Westbrook buyout. And we'll get enough money.
Starting point is 00:39:55 We'll just get it. And then we can raise it. Yeah. Trade trade for Kyrie. The luxury tax is not a problem anymore. And it always just makes you wonder. Because obviously like the phishing scam, and it's like, what, what did she click? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 What did someone send her that was like very obvious, like the $100 gift card or, or, you know, your aim. I get a lot where it's like your Amazon's been logged out. That's been happening to me all the time. But it's from such a random number that it's so obvious. It's like your Amazon has been compromised or something. And I just log on to Amazon and it's like, no, it's everything's fine. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:22 But it's like click this link. But it's like, never click it. Never click it. A formula. Always check and see the address that the email is sent from. Because it's usually like amma.z0n at china.edu or whatever. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Yeah. Tough day at the office for Jeannie Bush. Owners, they're just like us. And then. Governors. Governors. Sorry. My cool throwing is lambs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Gordon Ramsay made a TikTok posting a video where he was like at a farm selecting a lamb. And he was like rubbing his hands together going yummy. Like we're going to slaughter this and make. And then he got a ton of backlash and people were trying to cancel them. Oh, no. Why? They didn't know where lambs came from.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Right. They thought lambs grew on trees. Right. So lambs are good. Apparently like killing lambs for food. Is delicious. Is cancelable. No, it's delicious.
Starting point is 00:41:10 I get my lamb from a restaurant. Yeah. Right. I don't get it from like a lamb. Some guy cooks me lamb and I eat it. My lamb is totally different. My lamb was never alive. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I have cruelty free lamb. Right. So yeah, that's what I'm saying. Lambs are on the cool throne. They're not, you know. I love when that shit happens. Like where the fuck do you think your food comes from? It's like how darey this is alive.
Starting point is 00:41:30 It's like he's a chef. I'd imagine people are like eating McDonald's while they're watching that and be like what the fuck. Like the expression fresh meat. Yeah. Means that it just died. He should. Gordon Ramsay should have strangled the lamb right in front of everyone.
Starting point is 00:41:43 And then I would have, it would have been delicious. He should. Brum shirt. Brum shirt. Brum shirt. Very good. Brum shirt. Nice.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Nice. The first one wasn't good enough. Now we got the brum shirt. I liked it. Because he's English. No, I know. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, I know. Yeah. It was a good joke. I like that. It was good, Billy. Everybody let's stop. Appreciate Billy's joke. That was good.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Let's go stop the show. I'll be back. Cool throne lambs. They're good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, I disagree.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I don't really like lamb that much. Oh, a good lamb chop is very good. Yeah. Very, very good. I'd rather pork chop than lamb chop. Agreed. Like both. Why not both?
Starting point is 00:42:21 I'm not opposed to either. Yeah, I'm not opposed to either. Sometimes good lamb chop. Little mint jelly. Yeah. The mint jelly. That's good. It does.
Starting point is 00:42:28 It kicks it up a notch. Let's kill some more lambs. Is that it? Yeah. I have one more quick one. Antonio Brown is trying to start a rap career. His songs are not good. What do you mean trying to?
Starting point is 00:42:37 Have you not heard from the pit, not the palace? Right. No, he is rapping. And he's doing festivals, he's at Rowland Loud performing and did a dance. And that dance is going viral. So he is getting some traction now as an entertainer. Nice.
Starting point is 00:42:48 What's his dance like? It's weird as fuck. How would you do it? Do it for us. Do the dance. Do it, Billy. Like he just kind of like shakes. It's kind of like the wobble, but you shake your arms more.
Starting point is 00:43:01 OK, let's see it. Yeah, it looks like it looks like it's like pretending to be a porpoise, but without slapping your hands. It's wait. Porpoise, you did some. First of all, porpoises don't have hands. Second of all, they can't clap their fingers together. It's like the weirdest dance ever.
Starting point is 00:43:21 It's ridiculous. It is a weird dance, but it's kind of catchy. And it gets catching on. It's becoming, you know, Lamar Jackson. And now it's like everyone's doing it now. I remember the Bernie. Right. Actually, it kind of looks like that.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Yeah. You remember the Dougie? Yeah. So it's like, I see that. And it's like, you know, good for Abys. That's what you need to get your rap career off the ground. Lamar Jackson says he's going to do it this season if he scores. Oh, nice.
Starting point is 00:43:42 That's him just saying, I want Antonio Brown on my team because I have no wide receivers. And I like that too. That's tampering. If I've learned anything from this show. PFC, your hot seat cool throw. My hot seat is the Las Vegas Raiders because we've got the Hall of Fame game coming up on Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:43:58 And guess who's not starting? Trevor Lawrence. They're holding him out. You know what that means? Second half, Kyle Sloder. Oh, nice. Our guy, Kyle Sloder, he excelled in the USFL. I told you guys to watch.
Starting point is 00:44:11 I'm pretty sure you got the MVP who cares. But he played really well in the USFL. And the pre-season is absolutely when Kyle Sloder shines. So what I'm saying is take the over for the Jacksonville Jaguars in this game. Why not just the Jags? Yeah, take the Jags because it's Sloder. We're betting on Sloder right now.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, take the Jags. That way he might not get a touchdown, but he'll move the ball to at least a field goal. He deserves a shot. And I'm happy to see my guy get a shot. I'm going to be rooting for him. Sloder house is back all in hot seat Raiders. My cool thrown is Morbius.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Is that the name of that movie? Yeah, Morbius. We've always been. We've never stopped Morbius. Morbius. Well, they're on the cool throne because there's a new movie that's taking over maybe perhaps the worst movie of all time from Morbius.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Batgirl. So Batgirl, they spent $90 million on it. And they said, you know what? This thing stinks so bad, we're not even going to put it out in theaters. Who is Batgirl? We're not going to release it. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:10 But it was like one of those DC movies. Hank, do you know? I'm not going to say because I don't think it's right. Sorry, Carl. It's maybe. But they've been working really hard on this movie. Like $90 million. Nope, just kidding.
Starting point is 00:45:24 She's the Catwoman. Who's Batgirl? Classic mistake. Yeah, that is classic. Yeah. But they said it's so bad that we're not even going to finish the movie. It's not going to come out ever.
Starting point is 00:45:32 Yeah, I mean, Batgirl was. Who wants? What's Batgirl? Nobody really wants to see it. That's Catwoman. It's Catwoman. That's Catwoman. This is Batgirl.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Right, but this is Batgirl. That's what I'm saying. But what is Batgirl? That's what I'm saying. Batgirl doesn't exist. Right. There is no Batgirl. There's Catwoman.
Starting point is 00:45:48 I think there's a Batgirl, but I don't know. No, there's no Batgirl. No, what PFT is saying is all true. No, no, no, no. I know what he's saying is true. Hold on. Nobody cares about Batgirl. Batgirl exists, but Batgirl doesn't exist.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Right. Like there is no Batgirl. Nobody cares about Batgirl. But I also think like maybe what, you know, in the last five years they created. Yeah, that's right. Brendan Fraser? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Oh, damn. They're all legends. Keeping him out. So it sucks. What is Batgirl? I don't know, but like 90, you know what happened? When I, because I had not ever heard of Batgirl before. I hadn't even heard of this movie.
Starting point is 00:46:20 No one had. But when they announced that it wasn't going to come out because it's so bad, I was like, I have to see Batgirl. So they should release Batgirl and then everybody should promise to go see in theaters like we did with Morbius. Leslie Grace is Batgirl. Oh. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:37 So I guess Batgirl existed since 1961. No one knows Batgirl. The fuck? Yeah, with comics. There's a bajillion, like, you know. Batboy, national inquirer. Yeah, very true. That's true.
Starting point is 00:46:48 That is true. But it did make me want to go see this movie when they said it's like so bad that we're not going to put it out. Oh, shit. I want to see what that looks like. Oh, oh, so Batgirl, get this, following the accusations of a homoerotic subtext in the depiction of the relationship between Batman and Robin as described in Frederick
Starting point is 00:47:07 Wortham's book, Seduction of the Innocent. Batgirl was created, or Batwoman. And then Batgirl was created. So basically, everyone was like, yo, are Batman and Robin gay? They're like, no, there's Batgirl. Wait, but is Batgirl, is she a lesbian? No, but they like, you're just like, no, here's Batgirl. Or Batwoman.
Starting point is 00:47:26 That's Batman's girlfriend. Yeah, Batwoman is a beard. Yeah. This is crazy. Mrs. Batman. Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 So yeah, it started as Batwoman and then became Batgirl. As the niece, Batgirl is the niece of a Robin-like sidekick to Batwoman. What the fuck? Wait. Batgirl is the niece of Robin? No, niece of Batwoman. Batwoman.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So that's not even. Who's Batwoman? How are you Batgirl if you're not Bat? Is Batwoman married to Batman? No, hold on. How are you the fucking daughter of Batwoman? How are you not the daughter of Batwoman? Are we going to talk about Catwoman?
Starting point is 00:48:06 No, Batwoman is also. Batwoman is who was introduced to be like Robin and Batman are not gay. That's pretty much what happened. And then Batgirl is daughter? No, he's straight as fuck. He actually found the only other woman on the planet. That's a Bat.
Starting point is 00:48:20 That's a Bat. Also a Bat. Yeah. And they fuck. Holy shit. But they don't fuck so much because there's also Batgirl who's not related to Batwoman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:28 All right. So Batwoman was introduced. Who's Batgirl's dad? I'm going to read this. No, that's important. That's a very important question. So following the accusation of homo-rock subtext, Batwoman was created.
Starting point is 00:48:39 In 1961, DC Comics introduced a second female character as a love interest for Robin. So there's Robin's beard. Wait, but why is Robin fucking Batgirl? Like Robin should be fucking Catwoman. Robin chick. Robin with a Y. There you go.
Starting point is 00:48:54 Perfect. Okay. So Betty Kane is Batgirl arrived as a niece of Robin-like sidekick to Batwoman first appearing in Batman. The creation of the Batman family, which included Batman and Batwoman. Oh, so they were married. Oh, this is fucked up now.
Starting point is 00:49:08 So Batman and Batwoman were married, and then Robin and Batgirl were fucking. Oh, yeah. Were they fucking or were they also married? No. Batman and Batwoman were depicted as the parents and Robin and Batgirl were depicted as their children. But then Bat...
Starting point is 00:49:22 That makes no sense. How does a bird fuck a bat? Wait. Robin and Batgirl are supposed to be siblings and they're fucking. So they're like, oh, they're not gay. They're just incestuous. Wait, when did this come out in 1961?
Starting point is 00:49:32 1961, yeah. So, yeah. I mean, everybody's been in their cousins back then. The ex... All right, wait, hold on. Robin and Batgirl depicted as their children. The extraterrestrial imp Batmite and the family pet, Ace the Bathound, caused the Batman...
Starting point is 00:49:48 Wait, wait, their dog was a Bat too? Why do they have to make the dog a bat? It's just a dog. The dog is a dog. They make it wear a mask? Ace the Bathound caused the Batman-related comic books to take a wrong turn switching from the superheroes to situational comedy.
Starting point is 00:50:01 Oh, they became funny. They gave a sitcom. They gave a sitcom. Holy shit. So then they abandoned all these characters and why did they... Why did they then be like, hey, remember when that thing failed when we were trying to make sure that everyone didn't think Batman and Robin were sucking each other off
Starting point is 00:50:17 in the Batmobile? Let's bring back those characters. Is there a Bat dad? I think that's Batman. But like Batman's dad. No, that's the guy who gets shot in the alley. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Spoiler. All right, so that was great. Yeah. I learned a lot. I learned a lot. I do still want to see how bad this girl can get. Who cares? Who cares?
Starting point is 00:50:40 Yeah, fuck. Bat girl. I do want to see it as well. If you're an actor on that, you still get paid, right? I hope so. He was Spider-Man. Oh, shit. You work clear.
Starting point is 00:50:49 This is one of those things we got to send to Robbie Fox and just watch him cringe. We should actually watch, make him watch it on a live stream of everything we just fucked up. Yeah, the Spider-Man thing. It was a lot of people going to be triggered over that one. Oh, yeah. Big time.
Starting point is 00:51:02 But I was with you. Who cares? I was with you. Who cares? Who cares? Okay. Good, good, cool throne, P&T. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:51:10 We're talking rabbit hole. I'm with you that I want to see it now, too. Right. Oh, yeah, definitely. Just to see this family dynamic. Can we just, can we all agree to tweet at DC and be like, or whoever made it? Probably not DC, whatever movie studio they did.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Zack Snyder. Can we just be like, hey, we all agree to go see this when it comes out in theaters, and then they'll release it and then nobody will go? Yeah. Let's run back, Morban. Yeah. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I think the saddest thing is I think Brendan Fraser gained like 200 pounds for the role. Oh, no. That sucks. Come on. It's like you can't do that to him. Google picture Brendan Fraser currently. Well, he might just be fat.
Starting point is 00:51:48 He was fat, yeah. But he's like, yeah, it's for a role. Yeah. I'm going to eventually going to be in the new Batgirl movie. I think he's the penguin. Oh, that would have been delightful. That would have been great. He would have had a great waddle.
Starting point is 00:52:01 That would have been great. All right. My hot seat is. Well, the footage like exists, too. That's the thing. Release the fucking Snyder cut, Snyder. No, his name was Garfield Lins. Huh?
Starting point is 00:52:10 So he was a cat? He was the cat. Yeah, what? This movie makes no sense. Kind of love it. All right. My hot seat is Hank. So Hank's on the hot seat.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Agreed. Because we talked about it on Sunday. Liam Bubba is going to be moving to different stuff from part of my take. So we have, we're not having Billy edit the podcast. We are having our coworker Max, aka Philly Maze on Twitter. One of the greatest Twitter handles. Max is from Philly.
Starting point is 00:52:42 He's a Villanova guy. Die Hard Eagles, Sixers, all that. He is now going to be part of the show. Max, would you like to say anything? Hank is on the hot seat because he now has someone to clap back at him when he disparages the city of Philadelphia. Oh, nice. This is good.
Starting point is 00:52:58 Speaking to the mic, Max. Speaking to the mic. Billy got your ass. Billy's like fresh meat. Oh, wow. Looks like Hank is teaching Max wrong. All right. Trying to submarine him already.
Starting point is 00:53:10 Great introduction to the show for the new producer. Nice. Yeah, I'm excited for the opportunity. I've been a fan for a while. Yeah, big Philly guy. And I hate Hank. All right, perfect. Yeah, you're going to fit in probably.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Just a quick question. You look like you work out there, Max. I heard some people call you one rep Max around here. One rep Max. Do you also bench press more than Billy? Yes. Max, you did not bench more than 275, so we have an equal bench press.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Is that not correct? Technically correct. But if you go back and look at the tapes, anyone could see that I could bench more than you. Yeah, it was also the week that you couldn't do the 275. And he could clearly do more. Yeah. OK, so good.
Starting point is 00:53:54 You're going to fit in perfectly. You're stronger than Billy and you hate Hank. Are we going to call you Max? Are we going to call? What's Max home? His real first name, John. Yeah. I'll call you Maxwell.
Starting point is 00:54:04 What do you want? Philly Maze? What do you want? I mean, my name is Max. It's Max for now until you're in it. No, we don't like that. So you're not. No, I don't like your name.
Starting point is 00:54:12 You're Batgirl. I'm fine with that. I'm like 50% not joking. I kind of want to see it. We can just start calling him Batgirl. We introduced him like some fucking big star comes in. We're like, all right, that's Hank. That's Jake.
Starting point is 00:54:27 That's really, that's Batgirl. Fuck, I think you're Batgirl. You might be Batgirl. I'm all right with Batgirl. Batgirl, that was hilarious segment. Oh, my God. Here's, all right. Listen, Batgirl, I'm going to sleep on it tonight
Starting point is 00:54:41 and I'm going to decide if you are Batgirl. But you might be Batgirl. I'm just here for the good of the show. So I can be Batgirl. Okay. So everyone can follow me at Philly Maze. Like I said, Hank is now on the hot seat because he can't slander the city of Philadelphia without.
Starting point is 00:54:57 That's not going to stop. Someone to represent Philly here. Let's just make him look worse. So I'm not worried about that. Yeah. Well, you can't, you can't look worse than being Batgirl. Right. So it's already happened.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Sure. This is your king. Batgirl. You're going to have so many people treat you to my whole being like, what's up, Batgirl? I mean, I have to, I have to take it. What else am I supposed to do? No, you're Batgirl.
Starting point is 00:55:20 You're Batgirl. All right. And my cool throne is food. So my cool throne is food. I've noticed that food has just been dominating recently. We have, pardon my cheese steaks, delicious. But yeah, Billy hasn't challenged any food recently. I've noticed that too.
Starting point is 00:55:37 So Billy has only gotten his ass kicked by food in the past. Yeah. What are the ones that you failed? You failed the 72 ounce steak challenge. The tons of cheeseburgers. Oh, the wings. Don't forget. You failed the wings too.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. So and we have Great Week next week. We're going to Colorado. Jake's actually got something. I'll kick it to Jake first on a hot sea cool throne so he can fill in with what we need in Colorado. But what I need is I need everyone in Rado to offer up food challenges, local food challenges.
Starting point is 00:56:09 They have to be existing food challenges. So you can't make anything up. But local bars, whatever. What's the coolest food challenge in Colorado? Because I think Billy's got to get back in the ring. I've got an idea. Yeah. I'm sure there's a place in Colorado
Starting point is 00:56:22 that serves Rocky Mountain oysters. Oh. Like see how many how many testicles you can eat. Actually, that is huge for the tea. Yeah. That spikes the fuck out of you. You're already getting mentally prepared. That's why.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I can't wait to see you fill in this. This is going to be great. Dude, if I get hopped up on Rocky Mountain oysters, you're not going to want me around. Oh, yeah. That'd be a real shame. He's going to be. No, it's going to be like a 50, 50 testicles
Starting point is 00:56:47 challenge. Billy's going to eat 30. And then we're going to make fun of him. And he's going to be like, you guys don't understand. I've got so much tea now. Well, yeah. I'll fucking out bench back girl any day of the week. Billy's do.
Starting point is 00:56:57 He's going to flip out. As a plus sign hunter. As a plus sign hunter. There's a humongous one next to his name. He's going to eat like, yeah. You said like 60% of the challenge. And then he's going to do something egregious and completely irresponsible.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Like it's because you guys made me eat all that tea. Yeah. That has really made me act out on this trip. Yeah. You got. Yeah. I had I had to drink those 40 cores lights because I had to bring down my tea.
Starting point is 00:57:19 We should let Billy. We should have people tweet a billion. Let him pick. Yeah. Yeah. That way it's something that you think you can do. Right. And again, I want it to be something that exists.
Starting point is 00:57:28 So I don't want it. I want I want it to be something that Billy can get his name or a picture on a wall. I don't want it to be something made up. So don't hit us up if you own a restaurant. You're like, you're going to make something. I want there to be history behind it. And I want Billy to get back in the ring against food
Starting point is 00:57:42 because there's nothing I enjoy more than watching food just kick the shit out of it. How about this? How about Billy gets to choose which competition he's going to do? But then we can choose to appeal it to ourselves if we don't like it. Mm hmm.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yes. Like Adele. Yeah. No. How about Jake gets to pick? He's the independent arbiter. He's Sue Robinson. OK.
Starting point is 00:58:01 We're Adele. So we get to appeal. So Billy, you present your evidence to Jake. And then Jake will choose and then we can appeal it to ourselves. Yes. I do think we should all try Rocky Mountain oysters though. OK. OK.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Sure. Sure. Down. Dude, just get the tee up with everyone. Toreen. Yeah. Active ingredient, Red Bull. Nice.
Starting point is 00:58:17 No free ads. Look at your tee up. Yeah. You meant C4. C4. C4. Yes. Has tore in it.
Starting point is 00:58:23 Yeah. OK. Let me do Jake first because Jake has something along the lines. Yeah. I'll go reverse. OK. My full throne is AWLs in Denver. Rado.
Starting point is 00:58:34 Yes. The debut of Hard Knocks taking place Tuesday night, August 9th. I believe it'll be an 8 PM mountain time start, 10 PM Eastern. OK. That's good math. So we are looking for an AWS house to watch the debut at. And I'm pumped up about this. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:48 Like I saw the first clip from Old Dan Campbell talking about grit. That's going to be a very appropriate thing to watch. Yeah. And we've done this a couple of years in a row. It's very fun. We did. We went to Cleveland last year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:00 A nice couple's house in Ohio. I think they're engaged at the time. Yeah. Maybe they're married by now. Yeah. Congrats to them. Or maybe they're divorced. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:06 Or maybe they're divorced or broke up. He shouldn't have cheated. That was fucked up of them. Well, remember when he pulled us aside and he's like, you think this is all I bang? So here's what we're looking for. You're going to email your submissions. That actually didn't happen.
Starting point is 00:59:22 If the person out there is listening to this, I just want to be crystal clear that didn't happen. She pulled all of us aside. She was like, airtight? Yeah. That also didn't happen. That's also a joke. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 That's also a joke. We fucked really nice. Yeah. We fucked their dog. That's all. Yeah. And each other. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:40 A few years before that in Wisconsin, when we went to the AWO's house and it was, we usually like to pick a guy and a girl because we know that like, hey, they live together. They can't be that crazy. And we went to an AWO's house and it was a girl. Shout out to all of our female listeners. And her boyfriend just didn't listen and didn't care.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And we just sat in her living room and we watched Hard Knocks and he was like, who are these dudes? They're definitely broken. Without a doubt. I thought that was fine. I felt comfortable because we were just watching football. But then afterwards, when we left, I was like, that guy probably didn't want us in his house.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Well, and she asked for a picture for him to take it. Yeah. And that was bad. That was awkward. That was bad. But we do like to do a couple because it goes along where they're like, no freaks policy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:26 Actually, a little impromptu guys on chicks and we're not doing it this week. If you are in a relationship and you want to get out of it, we will probably come and break it up for you. Or how about talking about great week memories guys and girls when, what was it? Brother and sister got married and then they married them in the back of the van at the end.
Starting point is 01:00:44 We're like, we're brother and sister. Yeah, that was a joke. It was a classic bit. I'm going to say right now, this is going to be the best great week yet. Agreed. I'm going to say it. Hard to say it because I just feel the vibes in Colorado.
Starting point is 01:00:54 We got some fun things planned. We got some big interviews planned in Colorado. I'm very excited. So Jake, what are they going to do? So here's what you have to do. PMT intern at barstoolsports.com. Email your submission. So they can't be if you want a couple.
Starting point is 01:01:09 I think last year we had them submit a picture of the setup. So it's big enough to fit everybody. Don't don't just restrict it though. You never know. No. Yeah, you can never know. Give your shot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Yeah. Yeah. A dog would be nice too. Yeah. Because we want Jake to suffer. Sorry, Jake. I took third tech last year. They had a dog.
Starting point is 01:01:24 I was okay. It's only for an hour. A dog would be nice. What else do you guys have? We will bring the food. We will bring dinner. So what are my treats? We will bring dinner.
Starting point is 01:01:32 We will bring our own food, yes. But like a bowl of like candy wouldn't hurt, you know. Like if they had some M&M's just laying out at the coffee table. Yeah. Yeah. Any other requests that you have for the submissions? PMT intern at barstoolsports.com. Yeah, deal breaker.
Starting point is 01:01:44 Billy's not really an indoor type of animal, but he will be with us. So just be ready for that. If you have a yard with like a steak with a leash, then we can put on it. Yeah. A zip line. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:01:54 We just have Billy run up and down the yard. What radius from downtown Denver is the cutoff? Let's call it 20 miles. 20 miles from Denver. 15. Let's call it 15. OK. Let's call it 15 miles.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So yeah. So Tuesday night, August 9th, PMT intern at barstoolsports.com. Submit all of that info that we just talked about and we'll pick a winner. And we will have a meet and greet, by the way. That night, the location TBD, but that Tuesday night, somewhere in Denver, we're going to figure out a bar that everyone could come and say hello to us.
Starting point is 01:02:22 In the city. In the city. So get ready for that. We're very excited to hang out with the people of Rado. We got a lot of big things planned. Might be, might be hiking the world's tallest mountain. We don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Maybe. Maybe. Very exciting stuff. Or that's in Colorado. OK. In your hot seat. My hot seat's Tony LaRusa. He was caught dozing off in the dugout.
Starting point is 01:02:44 Yeah. To the Xbox game. In the first inning. I just, I feel for him, he's so old. Like old people just sleep. They take naps. It's tough because the graphic of bottom first is on now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Better that than behind a wheel though. So making some progress. Yeah. That's true. That's very true. Yeah. So. I also think that baseball is the most sleepable sport.
Starting point is 01:03:06 Easy. Just in general. Like if you're, if you're taking a snooze, I imagine that most managers, if you were to like put truth serum in them, be like, hey, if you ever fall into sleep during a game that you were managing, most of them would say, yeah. Also bottom of the first, there's no need to call
Starting point is 01:03:18 the bullpen for the manager. Right. And you also eat nothing. Everyone, everyone has, has or had, has had grandparents. Like that's what they do. They just kind of not off every now and then. That just goes to show you how much work you put in before the games.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Yes. Yeah. He's super tired in the first. So tired. All right, Billy. Finish this off with a hot seat cool throw and then we'll get to Luke Fickle. My hot seat is the AFC East today.
Starting point is 01:03:41 I visited Jets camp and I have to say they are all totally on the hot seat because the Jets are an absolute wagon and their offense looked electric. What was seriously, what was the, give us like the play that wowed you. You're like, this year's different. This year's different. I saw Zach Wilson throw a dime to Corey Davis on the
Starting point is 01:04:00 sideline. It was probably about 35 yards on a line, but it was the hardest thrown football out and up. So he put it high and outside. Nice. Perfect. Was it an NFL throw, a big time throw? Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Big time NFL. Was the defense on the field? Yes. It was 11 on 11. Okay. A question. I didn't think to ask that. It was a warm up.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Sauce, Sauce Gardner almost made a play on the ball. Since he got, yeah. But he couldn't get to it because it was such a well-placed ball. But Sauce Gardner, like good defense, better offense. Yeah. Everyone was awesome. Everyone was all pro in this scenario.
Starting point is 01:04:32 But actually the guy who really impressed me and we started a little in the end of last season, but Ben Mitz has always been telling me about Elijah Moore. He's like, Elijah Moore, Elijah Moore, coming to Barstow. He's amazing. And I hadn't watched him that much. I saw him today in person and he was making grabs all
Starting point is 01:04:46 over the field. He was actually like, he played so well just in that practice. It was like that guy is a different kind of player. Yeah. Like he is a step above. Everybody else. Did you see your coach?
Starting point is 01:04:57 Yes. Did you talk to him? Salah. Yeah. Yeah. You talked to him? No, I didn't talk to him. Oh, OK.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I just want to give him a nod name. Yeah. How do you say it? Salah. Salah. So wait, that was in two talks. Like completely different ways. Literally no one knows how to say it.
Starting point is 01:05:14 I'm excited for you, Billy, because I actually do think the Jets are going to be good this season. I think definitely, I mean, on the Barstow sports books, they only have their win total is six over under. Totally take the over. Garrett Wilson was also playing in the beginning of the practice. He did stumble a little and he didn't play for the rest of
Starting point is 01:05:32 practice, but he's fine. But like they have a bunch of, they have a whole cast of characters. Like if you, like they have definite players on, like their offense, like they have a full roster for the first time. No, but like for the first time, more than a full roster right now.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Yeah. Too many. Yeah. They're probably going to have to get rid of something. They got so many guys. The Patriots was like Gronk, Welker, Edelman. So you're comparing this to the Jets team. Real quick, to the best offensive football team of all
Starting point is 01:05:55 time. I know, but like, you know, the Chiefs, they had, you know, they had Kelsey Mahomes. Mahomes. Yeah. Tyree Kill. There's names. Different players.
Starting point is 01:06:04 We got Barrios. So wait, hold on. Hold on. Let me just, I actually, I actually totally agree with what Billy's saying as stupid as it sounds here. And I think I'm going to help you out here. Like they have puzzle pieces if they put them together. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:06:19 What you're saying, and I agree with you here, they have recognizable names. Yeah. And that actually matters a lot. Exactly. Yeah. None of them have done anything, but you know, like if you say the names, Zach Wilson, or Elijah Moore, or
Starting point is 01:06:33 Garrett Wilson, or Braxton Barrios, like Garrett Wilson. Exactly. Like you, you're like, oh yeah, that guy. Well, big hat. When you think about like some other teams, like the 49ers, you know, they had like Joe Montana, they had Jerry Rice. Those are names. Nice Clark.
Starting point is 01:06:47 They had Ronnie Lott. Like the Jets, they've got. Okay. But they got guys to back up what Billy's saying. Name, name four dudes on the Jaguars offense. Skill players. Cal Sluder, Trevor Lawrence, Travis ATN. People forget.
Starting point is 01:07:04 First you got coming back and then Christian Kirk. You got, you got three or four. No, no, no, I Sluder counts. Skill players, you can't. So that's like a full point. That's, it's not like a full package. Well, I'm not, I'm not die hard Jaguars. But that's what he's saying though.
Starting point is 01:07:19 Like when you can name guys, that matters. Exactly. Yeah. I think you're right, Billy. And our head coach is a defensive genius. So I know the, like, you know, they're going to plug all the holes like dot all their eyes. Here's a better way to put it.
Starting point is 01:07:32 The Jets will have most of their offensive skill players drafted in fantasy. That's nice. Yeah. That's a big, that's the name test. So, yeah. So Billy, last year, I think you said if, if Zach Wilson makes the playoffs, you would convert to Mormonism.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Is that what it was? I think I said if he won a Super Bowl, I would convert to Mormonism. Okay. So that's still on the table. Okay. I was going to say, like, what if they went at this year? The Super or get to the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yeah. You should bang your mom's friend. Yeah. That's what it is. You should dock in your mom's friend's butt. We'll figure that out. We'll figure that out. We'll, we'll, we'll, we'll cross.
Starting point is 01:08:07 We'll cross. We'll, we'll, we'll figure that out when we get there. Or you could dock your mom's friend's husband. My mom's friends with many people. Okay. So you got a lot of options. That's a nice, nice. So I, we could work that out.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Fucking, it's a big ocean out there, Billy. Yeah. Where was I? Yeah. So Cool Throne, drones. Which one of your mom's friends is hottest? Okay. Cool Throne.
Starting point is 01:08:33 I don't think Billy's got that dog. And he isn't. You haven't even enough Rocky Mountain oysters to that. He's just a little pop. Cool Throne drones. Drones took out another terrorist. Shout out drones. All right.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Good job, Obama. Nice drones. Obama is definitely still on the sticks. You don't give that up. No, they're hitting the right people this time. Yeah. Obama was nice on the sticks. Biden is not on the sticks.
Starting point is 01:08:55 No. Obama is definitely on the sticks. Obama didn't give up the controller. Biden is the definition. Biden probably is that, uh, that meme with the dad walking into the room on his son. Biden walks in while Obama's guy's Xbox app. How are you doing there, son?
Starting point is 01:09:08 Are you winning? Biden probably has, he probably has a controller. It's just the broken one. It's like the little brother, like who gets the broken one. Yeah, the broken controller. Then the N64 with the joystick doesn't work. He's like, wait, this drone didn't hit, and Obama's just like, got another one.
Starting point is 01:09:22 So Billy, did you see the missile that they shot up this guy's ass? Yeah. It's crazy. This is an insane thing that I don't know why they invented this, other than it's fucking terrifying. It's not a bomb. It doesn't explode.
Starting point is 01:09:34 It's got these blades that are on it, and so the blades just spin, and they shoot it directly at the person, and then it just chops them into pieces. It's pretty fucking cool. It's wild. It's wild. Precise.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's terrifying. Yeah. Like don't hypothetically. Don't commit like egregious acts of terrorism that will kill thousands and thousands of people,
Starting point is 01:09:54 and you won't get that. Yeah. Don't do 9-11, brother. Yeah. So your choice is yours. Yeah. You have nothing to worry about. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:00 But if you do, you're getting fucking razor blades up your ass. Yeah. No, we looked at a picture of it. It looks crazy. Whoever invented that in jail, they have a fucked up mind. Well, no, just like, yeah, put them in an insane. They probably got the person out of an insane asylum to design it.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Yeah. OK. Good hot seat, cool throne by everyone. Let's get to Luke Fickle, and then we're going to do the Mount Rushmore Fruits to end the show on the other end. Before we get to Luke Fickle, and we'll talk to you guys about 3G, whether you live in a state where marijuana is legal or not, 3G now offers federally legal dispensary grade Delta 9 THC products
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Starting point is 01:11:43 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. It is head coach of Cincinnati, Luke Fickle. He won, I think, like a million awards last year. Do you know how many awards you actually won? Let's start with that. Like you, I think you won every award. We won the AAC championship as a team. That's the only thing I really know.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Oh, nice, nice, smart. I think I have a list here. I think you won the Home Depot Coach of the Year, Sporting News College Football Coach of the Year, Bobby Dodd Coach of the Year, Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year, AFCA Coach of the Year, Paul Bear Bryant Award. PMT AAC Coach of the Year. Yes, you won one football guy of the week before from us when you did the pull-ups on the Rafters.
Starting point is 01:12:29 There you go. By the way, that was my fourth set. So you guys know that I failed after the fourth or fifth one. But that was set number four. That wasn't like the first set. So it was a little war out. Okay. So set the record straight.
Starting point is 01:12:42 How many pull-ups can you do? Oh, well, I mean, I don't know that I challenge myself every day to do it. But I don't know, full body? I mean, we don't use the full body. Yeah, we're not doing the like kipping, swinging pull-ups. We're talking about like the real ones. Before I pull, actually pull a back muscle. I probably can't get many more than six to eight.
Starting point is 01:12:59 But that's pretty good. Well, unless I'm challenged, you know, sometimes it's a little different at times. Yeah. So you got, camp is about to open, right? We were like a few days away. How does it, I would imagine like we're excited for football to be back. But as a head coach, is it like the first, the few days before camp, you're just giddy and ready to go?
Starting point is 01:13:19 It is. It is. It's like, you know, it's kind of like Christmas Eve in some ways. You know, but there's a lot of, there's a lot of anxiety too. You know, for us, I call it life without Desmond Ritter and Kobe Bryant are new and different. Those are guys that have been here since day one with us. And I just, not that they were always the best player and not the leader, but just guys that had been around for so long.
Starting point is 01:13:43 So it's different in some ways. It's a little bit more exciting because you don't know nearly as much about what you really are going to look like. I mean, we've got this vision, but the next 20 days we'll tell a lot about, you know, who we're going to be. Well, you got Ben Bryant coming back. Is that awkward at all? The fact that he left and then it comes back. Is there like, you know, it's like when you break up with someone and get back together,
Starting point is 01:14:05 like, we're not going to talk about our time apart. Hope you had fun. We had fun. Let's just move forward at this point. Yeah, I guess I never thought about it like that. But yeah, we haven't talked about that nine months away. I don't want to really know what was going on. But it is, it's unique.
Starting point is 01:14:21 But, you know, for us, we kind of look at him as one of us. And so it was never something that, you know, so because it's uniquely different sometimes when you bring somebody in, especially the key position like that about how it kind of, you know, feels to everybody else. But the unique thing is, is he was kind of been embraced last year. The Mac would play on a Friday night or they'd play on a Tuesday night. Our locker room, they'd be watching Ben Bryant play on a Friday night.
Starting point is 01:14:46 They'd all be down there watching him play if they were playing or streaming it in a different way. So even though he wasn't here, he was, he was pretty well connected to us. So week one is Arkansas, uh, back right, right back to the SEC. Have you, how many times have you watched the, the playoff game against Alabama? Or was it a, uh, let's burn the tape and, and move on moment? No, no, I'm probably five, six times at least. Yeah. Yeah. It's, I don't know if you ever heard the year before we played Georgia, I didn't watch that game until like two days before spring ball started.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Cause I just, it was so gut wrenching that I was like, I can't watch it until we've got football, like right, right. The next day or so, uh, the Alabama was a little bit different. I needed to see, I needed to know some things. So, uh, it's been, uh, it's been something I've seen. I've watched and, and I think we've watched, we watched as a team, uh, throughout the entire spring, just to, you know, in some positive ways of, of just making sure guys understand where we are and what we need to do to take that next step.
Starting point is 01:15:50 And now our, like, I'm just curious in, in terms of talking to the players, because, you know, as we watch it, there's clearly a gap. And I actually think that, you know, there's a couple big third downs that if you guys had converted, it might have been a little bit closer, but there's clearly a gap with the guys that Alabama has. How do you rectify that in the locker room when you're going up against another SEC opponent where you're like, you know, you, you want to be honest, but you also don't want to, uh, you know, have everyone be like demoralized
Starting point is 01:16:19 by the fact that they got pros up and down the field. And there's just a difference in type of athlete that the SEC or in Alabama has versus you guys. No. And when we watched it, we watched it every Saturday in the spring and watch as an offensive, watch as a defense. And it was more to be positive about here, here's where the unique little, little situations are. You know, we, we didn't play well coming out the gate maybe, or, um, you know, we didn't do some of the things defensively that we had done so good all year. And, uh, so it was in a positive light to make sure they understand that there's a fine line
Starting point is 01:16:54 between, you know, good and great. And, you know, in our eyes, they were great. And we were just, you know, pretty darn good. And, uh, but it wasn't just, you know, while they're bigger than you and their fact, no, I mean, we had nine guys drafted. We were right up there in every situation. It was just a little bit more of handling the situation and handling the, I think the atmosphere and, you know, playing within yourself that I was trying to make the point of, as opposed to, oh, we got knocked off the ball. And they ran for 220 yards. And because, you know, they're bigger than us up front. Uh, there's obviously some,
Starting point is 01:17:27 some differences maybe, and it's going to show up front a little bit. But I think that, uh, in a lot of ways it was the, Hey, we're not far off guys. We just got to do what we do and be us and execute better. I liked that. And it was all, I mean, it was a great story. I felt like it, it, uh, was like a breath of fresh air into college football to have you guys crash the party, so to speak. I was a skeptic all year. I thought you guys were going to get squeezed out. No, I wasn't a skeptic of your team. I was a skeptic of the system. So it's got to feel good though, knowing that you can go and recruit guys now and be like, look, you know, I mean,
Starting point is 01:18:01 we obviously don't know where this whole thing is heading the playoff. But as it stands right now, like, Hey, we did it. We got there. We can compete for a national championship. That has to be a huge feather in your cap when you're going to, you know, people's living rooms. Well, it was, it was kind of threefold to be honest with you. Um, everything kind of fell in line right now this year. So the, the things that hurt you in the long run, obviously we were talking, recruiting first and foremost for us, it had been the league kind of, and obviously we're, you know, one more, one more year here and then we're moving to the big 12. And then obviously it's always the playoffs. Everybody wants to, well, you know,
Starting point is 01:18:36 I want a chance to win a national championship. I want, and to have that opportunity where we, you know, got ourselves in the playoff, got in the mix, uh, you've kind of broke that barrier. And then, and then it's always the NFL draft, you know, we, we recruited in the midwest against the big 10 and some of the SEC and it's always, well, you know, the SEC or, you know, has this many guys drafted and, you know, and for us to hot status right here in the homestay, well, they had this many guys drafted and now, you know, you have an opportunity to say, well, we had nine guys drafted and more than maybe a lot of those guys had that year. So for us moving everything forward, it was kind of three-fold that you kind of hit the trifecta right there with, with all three and one
Starting point is 01:19:14 year that, you know, help guys understand, Hey, there's an opportunity here that maybe you didn't envision in the first place. Yeah. Are you a little concerned that moving to the big 12, uh, there's going to be like, you're going to ruffle some feathers. It might not be a great culture fit because you guys actually play defense and that's kind of what you're known for. So is Baylor going to be like, wait, I can't score 55 points against you guys? Like, why do we invite them to the party? It'll be unique. I mean, Hey, what's, what's still going to change? Right? I mean, that's another year away and goodness sakes that the way college football is moving. Who knows? There could be some more teams in there and, and, uh, you know, it could even
Starting point is 01:19:51 be uniquely different from what we see right now. But I think for us, I think, uh, you know, we're not going to change who we are. And, you know, maybe you have to adapt. Maybe you got to adjust. I know that as you look back at it, TCU was a team that, you know, obviously I think adapted, adjusted as they continued to climb and move into different leagues. And I've talked to them a little bit about how to, you know, how they changed and adapted to, you know, new areas and new leagues and things. And I know that there'll be some adaptation for us, but, uh, we don't want to stray far from who we really believe we are. I think you guys should play with 10 people on the field on defense. I think that'd be fair. That'd be what they're used to. We could have
Starting point is 01:20:28 got away a little bit with that with, with, with, uh, sauce over there in the boundary. Maybe we, we work out of playing a 10 man game and a lot of the things that we would do. I, I said, tell me, we were cheating last year in a lot of ways. Sometimes we just say that side over there is, is off the board and we get to play kind of 10 on 10 over here. When you realize you got a guy named sauce gardener on the team, are you just like, okay, well, he's starting. I don't need to see him. No, he was sitting on the bench as a freshman. He was 155 pounds and the only reason he went in the game is we were playing UCF and they run 125 plays in the game. So like, we got to substitute these guys. And the first series he was in, he broke
Starting point is 01:21:02 up a ball and the second series he was in, he picked sixth it. And I'm like, okay, we're not quite as smart of coaches as I thought we were. We better keep this guy in the game. So that's why you need a dumb guy in your coaching staff like us who sees the name sauce gardener. We're like, you have to start sauce. Yes. Yeah. At that point in time to, until he was drafted, he was just a mod to me. And you know, guys that walk in with those self-proclaimed nicknames, you know, they don't, they don't usually rise to the top in our, in our program right away. After, after that, after that pick six, I think it was one of those things where more people started to recognize that nickname. Yeah. So I have a question about recruiting,
Starting point is 01:21:42 one other question about recruiting. Is there, I saw you were in some tick talks. Is there like a chart that your staff goes through where it's like, okay, this guy's a five star. I'll take off my shirt. I'll, I'll like look like an idiot. This guy's a three star. Maybe I'll be on like an Instagram story, but I'm not going to be on a tick talk. Is there, is there a conversion chart for recruiting? No, I don't know that we've got the conversion chart. I think that's a, it's unique. Any of those things that are more creative and if it hadn't tells me doing anything outside my comfort zone, it's surely not my idea. And it's all the video side of things. We've got a girl that I kind of promise when she didn't leave us. She,
Starting point is 01:22:27 you know, had an opportunity to, you know, a lot of people are trying to take her. And I promise that I'll do whatever it is that you ask, you know, outside of my comfort zone, I'll do it if you ask me to do it. So that's how I ended up on some tick talks. That's how I ended up on, you know, doing some of those things. It wasn't even as much as the recruit as it was. You know, Darnell, I promise somebody that they stuck with us that I, but I wouldn't, I wouldn't say no to any of these crazy things they asked me to do. Okay. So I mean, I, I appreciate the honesty, but I do, I do just imagine and hope that some program does have like an actual chart, you know, like big on the whiteboard where it's like, all right, this guy, like I'll let him step over me.
Starting point is 01:23:05 This guy, like maybe we'll just, you know, like, all right, this guy's a five star. I'll get in full pads with him. Like we'll just do the whole thing. Oh, this guy's a, you know, a two star kicker. Yeah. We won't even put anything on social media. I'm not saying any names. I think maybe, maybe there are some to do that because I've seen some coaches that maybe have put themselves in some situations. I'm like, what were they thinking? But I, I never really quite envisioned it as, okay, that's a five star. Maybe they, you know, they're going to go above and beyond and completely get out of what I would say is the comfort zone or even, you know, the friendly zone by any means. Yes. Is there, is there actually a derecruitment process that you guys go through? You hear that
Starting point is 01:23:44 term all the time? And to me, it's just like coaches are like, yeah, after they get on campus, we start being assholes to them, you know? Well, you used to say that. I used to do one of those things. Oh, okay. The freshmen come in, you're going to derecruit them. Now with the transfer portal, like you got it, everything you do, you got to make sure you're aware that, you know, there's a lot more cards that are held in the, by the other guys. So, you know, believe me, if you're within our program, especially where we're getting ready to head to in three days, the derecruiting does it itself. We go out to a place called higher ground. So we'll be for like 18, 19 days and you guys should come out. I mean, you would love it out there in the
Starting point is 01:24:21 woods of Indiana. I mean, it's, it's a beautiful place and living in a barracks and, and oh, yeah. This really sounds awesome the way you describe it. We're in. We're in. Come to nowhere in Indiana and stay in a hut and then hit each other. They don't need to derecruit. All they do is take them out here and they realize what they signed up for. I would, I would actually enjoy that getting out to the middle of nowhere. It's like, you know, some people go off on, on meditation retreats. I, our good friend coach Harbaugh taught us that the human body craves contact. I think sometimes we don't hit each other enough and we kind of miss that. I would, I could agree with that being a former wrestler that's, you know, yeah, without some, some opportunities to, to run into other
Starting point is 01:25:04 humans. Yeah. We're missing out. We're losing some things, but I promise you, if you came out to West Harrison, Indiana camp higher ground, it's, there's plenty of things out there for you to hit or shoot or whatever it is that you like to do. Cause that's out in the middle of nowhere. Yeah. I got a, I have two Ohio state questions for you. They're not going to be, you know, I know that you are actually, let me, let me start with this. Is it, you've been rumored for every job. I know it's probably annoying at some point to have to deal with that with your players and everything, but there's got to be a small part of you. Like this is kind of sick that every awesome job that gets opened up. I'm like the first name that's listed. It's got to be at least
Starting point is 01:25:43 like you're doing something right. You know, like I, I know that you've been firm and you're, I actually appreciate that you're like, I'm staying here. This is where I'm raising my family, but like any job that gets opened up at any level and everyone's like Luke Vickle. Well, it's better than the alternative, right? I mean, every, you guys, we've got shows, you've got books, you've got magazines, who's on the hot seat this year. So I guess if you'd say, which one do you want to pick? I don't get me wrong. I like the negative. I like the, when people doubt you to maybe throw you on the hot seat question, but if choosing, I think I would go ahead and rather be in the, in the positive light side. Yes. All right. So my two Ohio state
Starting point is 01:26:21 questions were when you were a coach, the first time there, the first is the national championship game against Miami. Who, who's through the flag on your guy's sideline? Did it come from your pocket? Cause I figure you like, it's my uncle. I don't know if you guys do that. Yeah. It's a distant uncle though. Cause like you were, I think special teams coach, like you would have been, you would have been the perfect guy to be just walking around the flag in your back pocket and toss that into the game. As long as you bring up the fake field goal, I think that we attempted, cause that was not my call, even though it was my first year as a, you know, obviously back coaching and only my third year actually coaching. So no, I would not call a fake
Starting point is 01:26:58 field goal in the, in the national championship game that didn't, you know, that didn't work. That was the head guy. But no, it was, it's a distant cause you could not even actually in the bloodline. You could even go back and find him anywhere listed in the family tree, but nonetheless, yeah, he is related. All time moment where you, were you like, it's over? Did you have, you obviously probably had that moment where you're like, yeah, it's over. Cause there was, it was that long of a delay that it was like, and then boom, it's, we talk about all the time as sports fans that there's, when you're watching football and your team has like a big play go against you, you always are
Starting point is 01:27:36 sitting there being like, but what about the flag for like that split second? And then you, and then you accept your death. Were you, were you already dead? And then you're like, oh, then there's the flash. See, I'm a former nose guard. So I live in the world of pauses. I don't know if you've met some of us that, you know, brave in one of those guys that played a long time that used their forehead as a battering ram. There's by nature a pause in everything that I do. So I didn't even recognize, you know, as a former defensive lineman that ran, your life is a pause. So that looked like it happened in sync to me. So that's the only way I remember it. Okay. And then my other Ohio State question, I, I'm a badger. One of the first games I ever went
Starting point is 01:28:18 to as a freshman, your player, which I don't think you were the linebacker's coach yet, but I'm pretty sure you were the person who told him to do this. I think you know where I'm going. So were you the guy who coached up for Robert Reynolds to choke out Jim Sorge? Yeah. Was that you? Rob Reynolds from Kentucky. Yeah. No, I'm not laying claim. You're right. I was not the linebacker coach at that time, but, but I do have a story of like that. When my first year of coaching, when, you know, you're on the sidelines and you're all fired up and you tell your kid, you ought to go out there and, you know, just grab somebody and tear their throat out. And I had a official come over to the side and threw a flag on a kid that came over and he said,
Starting point is 01:28:54 uh, coach, he was grabbing the guy's throat under the pile. And I looked at him and he looked at me. He's like, like, he wanted to say it. Like, coach, you told me to tear his throat. I'm like, Oh my God, that was a figure of speech. Like, do you not understand the difference between a figure of speech? So I learned my lesson early on. So I would not have told Rob that, um, at least publicly. Yeah. I mean, that also was one of those moments where it was before like, you know, a million replay views. Yeah. That's like one of the first ever ones where something like that gets caught and then it gets replayed over and over again. Nowadays, I mean, there's 300 cameras on everything, but Rob was probably the first one that I really remember that. Yeah. He sent Jim
Starting point is 01:29:35 Sorge to the hospital and choked him out. Oh, I don't, I don't know about that. I think he almost died. Yeah. Leg dropped him afterwards too, I think, right? I mean, I guess since Rick Blair had his last mask, we might as well get into some of the, you know, I think he maybe even dropped an elbow bomb on him. That's typical Ohio State scumbag behavior where you're belittling like a man who almost died on the field because he couldn't breathe. So that's fine. I get it. You got to, you got to be true to yourself. That's right. You have to wonder if Jim Sorge would have had a longer NFL career if he hadn't gotten choked out. You probably took, you probably would have made it like 17, 18 years as opposed to 15. He probably would have, man.
Starting point is 01:30:15 It's, you know, or you had some PTSD and you just had to retire a little early because you can't remember it. Yeah. You took money out of that man's pocket. Yeah. That's, I've got an Ohio State question for you too. So you, we alluded to it. You're good friends with Mike Frable, our friend. Were you guys actually roommates? We were roommates for four years, three of them officially, but he just decided to move into our apartment as freshmen instead because we didn't like the dorm. So he may have ran one of our roommates out because he kind of confiscated his room a little bit, but yeah, we, you can save roommates for four years. All right, wait. So, so Vrable decides he's going to move in. He doesn't want to stay in the dorms and he essentially just takes another
Starting point is 01:30:52 man's room and challenges him. He's like, I am in this territory. If you want this territory, you have to, you have to take it from me. I don't know that it had to be a challenge, but he just seemed to almost commandeer at, at, at the wee hours of the night whenever he maybe needed it. But yeah, so he pretty much lived with us that entire first year as well. But after that, yeah, for the next three, three years, I think we were roommates. Yeah. Who was the alpha in that relationship? You were him. Oh, me. Oh, no doubt about it. Like Vrable's that he's an alpha. I tell you what, there's plenty of nights that, you know, that everybody was wore out by, can you guys just quit it? I mean, at some point in time, no one's going to pat out and no one's
Starting point is 01:31:35 going to give in. And they would just have to finally say, like, this, let's just make it a draw here. So the good news is, is probably after those years, we were always pretty much on the same side. So it would have been ugly had I ever had made it and had to go on the other side against him. Because I had to take some shots, maybe when his back was trying, because at that point in time, he was, you know, obviously playing for tears a little bit above me. So I had to take all shots when needed. Yeah. So if you look back on those times, and you're like, okay, me and this guy, Mike, we're staying up until four o'clock in the morning, just wrestling, just, you know, going out partying, have a good time being, you know, being essentially, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:13 kids, would you ever have thought in a million years that you guys would end up like one top four in the college football playoff head coach and the other NFL head coach, just one coach of the year? No, but let me set the record straight. He can't go, he's like a pump at 230. He's a pumpkin now. Anything after 230, he's done whether it was in college or not. So four o'clock was not his, his realm. So at 230, it was no more. But no, I would never have been he always wanted to be a coach. He always talked about being a coach. Me, I didn't. And, you know, but I knew whatever he was going to do, he was going to do it at a very, very high level. And I always kind of thought it was, it was fitting, but it's kind of unique that we're closer now than, you know, being three and a half
Starting point is 01:33:01 four hours away. You know, so some boys get the chance to, you know, not that we have a lot of free time, but at least, you know, talk about the same things and help each other out in some ways. Yeah. So when was your first memory of, uh, of Rabe's threatening to cut off his penis for something? Because that wasn't like, I know, I thought it was, I don't, I think it was his balls, wasn't it? He's already gotten enough kids. He would cut off his penis for a Super Bowl. But that to me seems like something that he had thrown around before. Like I'll sometimes say something out loud and it's like, I've been, I've been testing that out. So I would imagine he's like, you're like, if you don't give me this room, I'm going to cut my dick off. Like something like that.
Starting point is 01:33:45 Yeah. He, uh, I don't know that I've, there's a lot of sayings that he has used. I'm not sure. I quite remember that one exactly. I don't know that I'm going to bring up a few of the others, but there, there's always a few things that were off the wall that pretty much stuck. I actually didn't see that, but I think maybe about an hour after whatever article or whatever that was that came out, I think I probably got three or four text messages from people, former friends, even my own father sent me a message to say, what is, what is Mike talking about here? So, uh, yeah, it was quite unique. Let me ask you the question. Would you cut off Mike Vrables penis for a college football championship? Sure. Okay, there we go. He's got plenty of kids, man. I guess he's got what
Starting point is 01:34:35 he needs. Um, I actually, I, I do have one more Ohio State question. This one's a little weird. You probably haven't gotten it, but we spent some time with your old boss, Jim Tressel. Um, and you were the special teams coach was, would it ever creep you out how addicted he was to punts? Because we had, when we sat with him, he like started just listing the best punts he's ever seen. And I think he loves punts more than any other part of football. Most important playing football, I'd say every, every, every, uh, every series needs to end with, uh, you know, some type of kick. And, uh, no, it was, it was quite unique. You know, as I got, that's kind of the way I, I don't say I brought up, but being a conservative by nature that obviously
Starting point is 01:35:16 10, 11 years with coach Tress, uh, one of the unique things is I, you know, came here. I had to kind of try to find a way after a year or one to change my mindset, you know, because that's ingrained in you. And, uh, so we, we have, we have, I have adjusted, adjusted and adapted to, you know, not being, uh, not say that punts not important, but, uh, that not trying to end, uh, every series with some version of a punter kick. Yeah. But he does really, he's very passionate about it. He came to life when he was talking about punts. He says the only playing football that starts with the offense, touching it and ends with the defense touching it and the defense becomes the offense. It's like, wow, that's, I've never thought of it that way, but it's,
Starting point is 01:35:56 it's very true. Um, but yeah, he's got like an encyclopedia of punts all set up in his head. And, um, yeah, we, we love getting to visit with him. And I, I'm impressed with what you've done at Cincinnati and, uh, especially like going to Cincinnati, I think you were ranked as like the top defensive coach, sabrametrically, like in all of college football. Do you have any, did you have any of those insights into, you know, what kind of analytics they were putting? And I think I, I saw somebody say they ran a hundred thousand simulations of college football games and you were the best coach. Do you have any insight into that data? No, I believe in my mind does not think quite like that. And some of that, uh, some of that is way above, uh, me. It's, it's
Starting point is 01:36:39 funny because we were just talking about Mike and obviously the NFL is so far, I'm not saying advanced because college football is, is going to another level as well. But you know, with all their own analytics and they have their own analytics departments. And, and so I actually called him about two weeks ago and started to ask him on a few of these analytic things that, because we're similar minded and sometimes these analytics are just like, we have these guys come in and present to you. They've never played a game of football in their life. They know nothing about emotion. They know nothing about like, you know, if it's raining out or, you know, where you are in the game, like it's strictly numbers. And so I started asking about
Starting point is 01:37:13 that. They started to go like, no, I don't deal with some of that crap. I mean, you know, there's a lot of things that just wholeheartedly are in your mind and in your heart. You know, so I think that similar in some ways to us, I, I didn't run it to see where I best bid or whatever those things were. And, you know, and sometimes in games like that, they don't have a whole lot of time to, you know, to go ask your analytics guy upstairs that is crunching the numbers. Yeah. We play this game with every guess we have on, we'll go around the room, I'll start PFT, we'll go second and then you'll go third. It's called predict Cincinnati's schedule and what their final record is going to be. I'm going to say regular season, I'm going to say
Starting point is 01:37:55 they're going to go 11 and 1. I think, I think they're going to go 10 and 2. I have a surprise loss against Navy. Okay. That offense is tough to prepare for. Okay. And coach, you're up. We'll play for a championship. Oh, well, usually the guest gives us a number. We do this in a number. Yeah. We did this last week with who'd we have on Andrew Stoltz, the comedian. He, he said that you guys are going to go 11 and 1 too. I wore 99 in college. What other numbers would you like? I got a bunch of kids. I could read your, I could, they got numbers too. Yeah. Yeah. My wife's got a phone number. I don't know it, but I could bring out my phone and try to look it up. Okay. All right. So like 10, 11 wins somewhere around there. Yeah. That sounds
Starting point is 01:38:34 right. Yeah. That sounds right. Yeah. There you go. How soon in the season do you start preparing if you're going up against the service academy? We love watching those offenses. Oh God. I don't, but yes, we do it in, we do it in spring. We'll do it in, in our little OTA stuff. And then we'll do it every third night out of camp. So every third night we'll do a triple option. So we actually have two of those. We have two triple option teams this year, Navy being one. Are you ready for the fact like it is unique that you guys are in your league for this last season? You do know that like you have the built an excuse of like, oh, the refs were mean to us because we're going to the big 12. We can do that for you. We can just say that for you if you'd like
Starting point is 01:39:18 cause you can't say it, but if you want us to do it, it will just cost, I don't know, like couple million bucks. Well, we've been one of the most penalized teams over the last five years in college football. So I don't know that this one year with us maybe leaving, we can use that as an excuse of like, well, hold on, it's a trend. You guys have been the most penalized team in college football over the last five. So I don't know that the officials are going to have as great an impact on throwing flags against you guys because they do anyway. So, but we are, I do feel like we're a man without a country at times with a lot of the things that are going on and everybody kind of sticking tight with their, with their, you know, with their leagues, you know, we, we don't have
Starting point is 01:40:00 as much communication and connection, you know, quite frankly, sometimes I feel left out. Yeah. Yeah, that is sad. Wait, so how do you fix the penalty thing? That's interesting because like that's, is it, does it drive you crazy or are you like, no, we've had success. It's okay. No, it drives, I mean, like, I always tell them that look, I don't want to be the least penalized team in the country because if you're the least penalized team, to me, you're playing a little bit more passive. Like, well, look, if we get a personal foul, we'll play it through the whistle and everything we do, we're going to be aggressive, which things are going to happen. But guys, I would prefer us not to be in the bottom, you know, 2% of the, of the nation every year. But
Starting point is 01:40:39 so last year, we were only, I think, 70th in yards per game, but we still were like 100th in penalties per game. So that, if you don't know what that means, you can ask your analytics guy that's probably back there, but hey, hey, hey, that's because they make some stupid penalties before the ball snap, jumping off sides and ball starting. So hopefully we can figure out ways to change that a little bit. Yeah, I wonder why that is. I wonder why, let's just say we'll say that the refs have it out for you already. There you go. My theory sounds better is that it's a lingering like carry over effect from Cincinnati basketball, going back to like, you know, some of the Brawls that Mick Cronin's guys got in. They see this Cincinnati logo and they're like, oh, these guys play
Starting point is 01:41:24 violent. They add a little extra 10% on. So we're going to be on the lookout for them. I would blame the basketball program. You know what? I think that's a good idea. I think that's a good idea. They've been holding us back for a while now. Yeah, it's always good to have a scapegoat ready to go. Yeah, you gotta have that crutch. You have that crutch. All right, so coach, I had one last question. It's a rowback question. Go to rowback.com. Use code take 20% off your first purchase. Actually started in Cincinnati. We know the guys, Sam Hubbard's nephew, cousin, cousin. So rowback.com. Yeah. RHOBACK.com. Take, put using promo code take for 20% off your first purchase. Okay, last question. And I love to ask these type of questions because
Starting point is 01:42:06 we see the game from a different angle of like the human element. This year you're in Ohio State, you know, you went to Ohio State, you coached there, you got a bunch of friends, family, everything. I'm sure that the rivalry is very important to you. But this year Michigan beats Ohio State. Was there a small, maybe 1% of you that was happy because now you're not the last time that Michigan beat Ohio State as the interim head coach. Like the human element, you got to be like, finally people will stop bringing up 2011. You know what? I never thought about it. Yeah. I'm glad that you brought that up because last year, so we played on a Friday. We played Friday and then obviously that game was on Saturday. So we played Friday night. And so
Starting point is 01:42:48 we're actually, it was a great day because we got to sit out back and I was watching the game with my kids and I got two, twin seven year olds, right? And they literally looked at me and said, dad, we're rooting for Michigan. I said, what do you mean? He's like, well, you know, it's not, you know, obviously we want to be, we want to move ahead, you know, because they were looking at the rankings and I literally had to look at it and say, no, we don't ever root for boy. What are you guys crazy? What are we doing? No, that's, that's our trauma matter. And so, but if I had thought about it like that, I would have been like darn right. Yeah. I don't want to be the last guy to have lost. Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be like, it's, it's a silver lining of like
Starting point is 01:43:24 people will stop bringing up 2011. Yeah. There you go. Thank God. Why do I stop getting those text message and emails? You got somebody else to send them to now. Yes. Yes. Yeah. You're no longer featured in that little graphic that they show on the bottom of the screen every time the game's on and said with interim coach Luke Fickle. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't realize that. Now what, now, now I got, now I know exactly why the, those messages have stopped coming to me. That's great that they've got somebody else to send them to. Awesome. Yeah. I have one last, last question because I'm always curious about what a barricade is every time I see the name barricade, because I've never seen a barricade. Do you have a barricade? Is there one on campus? It's actually housed at
Starting point is 01:44:06 the Cincinnati Zoo just down the street. Oh, no, not that place. Yeah. Get it out. Get out. Yeah. Careful. Yeah. So we can bring him out whenever needed. Yeah. It's just though. So I don't know. If you guys come to higher ground, I promise you I'll have the barricade out there that day. Okay. I mean, this is a, you're putting on a hell of a sell here. Yeah. And you have no, don't make us eat skyline and we'll be fine. We're in Indiana. So we actually go across the border there to get away from skyline. I like that. You don't have to eat skyline if you come to West Harris in Indiana. Yes. Yes. Well, coach, this has been awesome. We really appreciate your time. We will take you up on it. It may not be this year, but I think next year we got to come.
Starting point is 01:44:48 Okay. All right. You got it. All right. I'll send you the schedule. Awesome. Thanks so much, coach. Thanks coach. All right, man. Thanks for having me. Luke Thickel is brought to you by our great friends over at Sling TV. Sling TV has something for everyone. All your favorite shows on your favorite channels, all right at your fingertips. So if you're looking for sports, Sling's got you covered. They've got pro and college football and basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, golf, racing, you name it. Sling also has reality TV. So you can keep up with the latest gossip with today's hottest shows on channels like TLC, Bravo, MTV and more. They've also got news channels like MSNBC, CNN and Fox. And if you're feeling
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Starting point is 01:46:09 Who won the last one? I don't know. Jake, why didn't you see that? No, I don't think. Hey, can you look it up? Who won last one? Oh, nice. Nice. Thanks for the score. All right. So we get to choose who goes first. Yeah. I think we go third. Yeah, I don't want to go first. Yeah. Yeah. This draft is deep. Mm hmm. Real deep. Fruits are we could do we could do double fruit draft also for the record. Also for the record, having a 20,000 times the followers is the rest of the groups. Oh, wow. Let's say that makes no sense. It's cool. I should have an idea. Why don't we just make it nameless and make it team one, team two, team three. Okay. Well, I recall suggesting that a couple of years ago and then Hank not having such a great reaction. No, that was a big cap. But
Starting point is 01:46:56 you're just saying that because you don't want to get your team upset, but big guy was the one that. Well, you also said, you also said no. No, I never said no. I said no to no to whoever said we shouldn't vote. That was PFT. Yeah. I said we should vote. I never said no to nameless. I said voting. That's a fact, Jack. Well, what I'm saying about this fruit situation, which realize PFT offered up different ideas to just change every. Yeah. Yeah. Because you guys don't want to do it yourself. No, because I'm just an ideas guy. I'm just throwing ideas out left and right. So for this draft, I want to make it clear. We shut the fuck up. This is exactly what Mount Rushmore should be in August. But Hank needs to learn how to shut the fuck out each other's
Starting point is 01:47:37 throat. Get it tight again. Shut the fuck up. You and your fucking team with Batgirl. All right. So what I was going to say about the fruit is we talked about this a little bit earlier. I don't think that like bullshit fruits like tomatoes and avocados should be on this list. Agreed. The tomatoes should not be on this list. No, no, no, no, no. We're talking about real fruit. No, no, no, no. What defines a real fruit? I know I know about the seeds. The different. No, no, no, no. That's fine. A real fruit, a real fruit. Joey, I want the regular. You can't look me in the eyes and say that a tomato is a fruit. A tomato is literally built almost exactly the same as a fruit. Don't give any spoilers away, dude. Yeah. But you almost said a fruit. Dude, I had all
Starting point is 01:48:24 those like, you know, off brand fruit. Yeah. No, they're there. You guys can use those. We're not. We're not going to lower ourselves. I want to hit you with the off brand fruit. That's going to knock you off. I'll hit you with one that you're going to fucking cry. I bet Jake's really excited about your weirdo choice that you're about to make. Yeah, this is good. You're going to. You've already lost a draft, dude. You've already lost a draft. You know, we're just we're just trying to be unique and have fun because just as you said, Billy, I know, Billy, I mean, look, you guys have powerful retweets. Yes. Okay, Billy, I won't retweet this one, but I just want you to know that Dingleberry is not a fruit.
Starting point is 01:49:00 So don't try to pick that. Darn. Okay. All right, Billy, you guys go first. Then Hank memes and back. I'll go second and then we'll go third. This is just memes tonight, but we're going to we'll get back. All right, we're going to start off with a try that we're going to forget why we call him back girl. Call this family. I like, oh, yeah, I'm going to be the producer of one fucking one episode of back girl. No, you're back girl now. We're going to start off with bananas. I feel like bananas are good. That's bananas. Sure. Like, yeah. There's not much of an
Starting point is 01:49:44 exclamation. No, you just no, you took no. Listen, you are good. No, that's a good, that's a good pick. You took super fruity. No, and you took. Yeah, it is. You took a you took an offensive lineman with one one. That's a good pick. Sometimes you need that. All right, we're going to go with where you have the flashy star, best fruit, especially this time of year. No brainer. Also the best fruit flavor for drinks. So that should be factored into watermelon. Good choice. Good choice. That is a flashy wide receiver. That's a great way to describe it. We had it. We had watermelon. That's my high one. That's my number two overall selection. So I vote we go. Maybe the first one that I listed.
Starting point is 01:50:26 Yeah, definitely. Easy. Okay. This is easy. This right here. This is on them. It's probably not a wide receiver. I'd say this is a quarterback. This is a surefire. Can't miss quarterback. Strawberry. The money. Strawberry, delicious strawberry, versatile. You can put it in any meal, basically, delicious covered in chocolate. The best in smoothies. Yeah, the best. And I think every smoothie has strawberries, but on its own. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Hank. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Have you ever been seductively fed a watermelon on its own? Are you are you just are you just blendering just a banana straight? No, I'm saying all your no, but I eat bananas. I raw dog bananas like it's my job. Strawberries are raw dog watermelon like
Starting point is 01:51:12 it's my job. Hey, hey. Strawberries all day. PFT. You're the biggest hypocrite ever. Yes, Billy. A strawberry is a false fruit. Oh, it is not. It's a fucking. It's a fruit. It's a fruit. If you want to get picky about fruit, it is not is a the straw the in the strawberry. The flower has many separate carpools embedded on the flower base or receptacle. The fleshy part of the bit we eat is solely made from receptacle tissue. So it is a false fruit. Hey, Billy, guess what? It's a fruit. A strawberry is actually a multiple fruit, bitch. It's a false. It's a fruit. PFT. Should we go with the one that we forgot or the fourth on the tier one list I sent you? I think those are our two selections. Tough. You can't go wrong with either one. You can't go wrong with
Starting point is 01:52:03 I think I mean the one that you sent most recently that is that's a flashy. Okay. Yeah, let's go flash pineapple. Great fruit that we had that great fruit and makes why I just bonked you explain why because you're just about to say it. I say what I was gonna say it makes you big and strong. Yeah. Vitamin C. I didn't say immune system. It's a great house. What what what was the bonk for? I'm confused. I was gonna say the only thing about pineapple is it makes you want to eat more pineapple because that's how good pineapple makes stuff taste good. What? Like like smoothies and candies and this is good. You're helping our pick and what else? Gammies. Oh what kind of gametes? The male kind. Oh sperm. You said it. What no you said male
Starting point is 01:53:01 gametes. What does it taste like? What does it taste like? How do you know? Pineapple juice is delicious. Delicious. Pineapple is a tier one fruit. You can be garnished too. Oh yeah. Delicious. We had that we had that if you didn't take it. Yeah pineapple skewers on the barbecue. So good. A little sour though. I don't know what pineapples you're eating brother. When they when they wheel out like the whole hog that's being barbecued up and it's got pineapples on it. Pineapple on pizza. Delicious. I will say sometimes pineapples I love pineapples on pizza. Pineapple. No this is because you have mouth herpes what you're about to say. No. Yeah. You feel like you have canker swords. You have mouth herpes. No like sometimes
Starting point is 01:53:46 you take it. It has it can have a weird texture but I'm a huge pineapple fan so I'm not going to knock it. I just don't know if it was you know worth that I have a pick but you just said you're going to take it. We are going to go with orange. Good choice. Okay. That was going to be our ultimate pick. That was what we were deciding between the most refreshing you know not great flavor and it's very versatile. Yeah. And similar to watermelon probably the second best fruit flavor like obviously drinks it's just it's orange goes with everything. Orange soda orange Gatorade. Oranges are probably also the number one nostalgia fruit because you you know eat it you know when you're playing like soccer or whatever as a kid. Oh yeah good for
Starting point is 01:54:26 half time. Yeah yeah only downside to the orange. Well no I'm I'm not going to talk shit about another man's pick. I thought that was a good picking. Thank you. What would you have said if we had picked orange. If you brush your teeth you can't be. Oh yeah. Gross. Like really and I brush my teeth a lot because I have good dental hygiene Hank with his canker swords might not I'd say that goes pretty much anything brush your teeth then it's pretty tough. What what what can you do right after you brush your teeth. A lot of things everything. Go ahead. I have a question for the group. I would like I don't know how we could do this blindly. Maybe everyone everyone close their eyes and and put up a one for a pulp and a two for no pulp back girl you
Starting point is 01:55:11 watch everyone's I just want to see because I think this is it's a one for pulp two for not pulp. We'll say it out loud obviously. Are you eyes shut. Everyone close their eyes put up your pick and then back girl say everyone's pick around the around the room. What's the choice again. One is is pulp to his no pulp. Someone's very indecisive. Uh oh. Okay. It's me. I like I like. Okay. No pulp. Go little bit of pulp. Go. One is the winner. All across. Oh no. Billy and Hank. Very close. Billy and Hank are pussies. They want no pulp. I like a little bit. I love pulp. You need a little bit. I don't like the pulp at the bottom of the box. No you can't go max pulp is for cycles. You got to have a
Starting point is 01:55:57 little pulp so you know it's a real war. I don't know why I feel this way but I feel like it is. I feel like once I hit puberty I started liking pulp. I don't know if it's like a maturity thing or not. Yeah. You started noticing. You started noticing pulp. I just feel like as I got older and more mature I was fine with pulp. You started to get pulp in places that you never understand. Oh my god. Yeah. Okay Jake. It's one of the most off the rail shows. It's very fun. I'm having a lot of fun. I am a firm believer you got to have a little pulp. Again max pulp is crazy. You got to have a little pulp. Orange juice is weird when it's like totally smooth. Yes. It's it's creepy. It's kind of like pubes in that way. It's like I got to have a little
Starting point is 01:56:34 landing strip in your orange juice. Got to have some pulp. Not me. Okay. Now you Billy I feel like you would you would like appreciate the pulp. You'd be man enough to have the pulp. No if I'm drinking a liquid. I want liquid. Got it. What about mimosa. I'm kind of like team no pulp if it's a mimosa. Well yeah that's different. That's a different trick altogether. Yeah. Okay. Go ahead. Our pick is grapes grapes. Deadly used to make wine kills dogs used to make wine kills deadlies. You have if you have a dog and you have dog wine a weapon. Same thing with raisins which are dog dried up wine raisins and other benefit. I do like grapes a lot but I did not put them on because I knew that was going to come in your dog killers. Our other pick greener greener
Starting point is 01:57:21 greener purple Billy. Oh this I feel like this is a good answer to content is delicious. Yeah but obviously like you can't eat them exclusively because you get sick of them. This is this this might be a great test of a person greener purple. I actually hate fruit. I literally hate all fruit. Okay Hank you greener purple purple all day. All green. Really. Okay. Split it split it back girl. What do you got purple or green. Green all day. Okay. All right. Our third pick village is like this this Mount Rushmore bores me. You know what blows my mind about grapes is that we've all agreed what the flavor of grape is if it's in a candy or if it's in a soda and it tastes nothing like what a grape is. Yeah it's
Starting point is 01:58:14 just the color. Correct. Like the purple has a taste purple grape. Yes purple. You know that banana flavor that is in all the candies. That's from an extinct type of banana. It seems like a pretty wasteful use of an extinct banana. No but they like when they made the artificial flavor for banana it's from that extinct flavor of banana. Huh. So that's why it tastes different than real banana. Also were any of you as kids just you you heard that one person told you that the spiders in the grapes and then you were scared forever. No. Is that just me. I just heard that I eat spiders in my sleep. Yeah. That wasn't like one of my agendas. There's something about spiders and peanut butter. Really. I heard spiders and grapes. I feel like that just everyone just
Starting point is 01:58:55 learns about spiders in something and then it just kind of traumatizes you. I haven't had a grape since 1992. Our next pick will be something that probably has the most variety of any fruit in the world. It's apples. It's a bold claim. It's solid fruit. There's red. There's green. There's yellow. There's mixes. There's got to be like an apple score gummy. You would be a teacher pet with apples. You definitely get your teacher's apples. Yes. Never in my life. I swear. You had a nice shiny one. You gave it to your teacher. I don't mind the pick. I feel like it's a good value pick at this time. Third round. Because an apple is a staple. It's like it's probably the most common fruit to have in houses. I just don't know if I'm I've never really craved an apple. But I it is a slice
Starting point is 01:59:32 apple so much easier. Yeah. Yeah. No mess. OK. Yeah. OK. You guys are I feel unbelievable about our draft. You know this was a risk. Well you missed pineapple. It's when I didn't get it. But also you know the way back because you were you guys were debating and you probably when he said like you guys wanted to take orange. No we actually both want to say pineapple. I like the preamble to this pick but we could move it along a little bit. Canaloupe. Oh that was your pick. That was you get the whole is fantastic. I would have put it at the top again. Victory lap before you yes that's a genius draft pick. All my cantaloupe ease will know what it's all about. Could have been the top of my draft board for my personal favorite fruits to eat. It's delicious.
Starting point is 02:00:17 It's succulent. And it's just yeah it's juicy yummy refreshing cantaloupe. OK. But if you're going to eat a cantaloupe there's a reason why they serve it to you in like the thinnest slice possible. And you only eat it like once every year probably. No I mean my my. How often do you eat my dad's big cantaloupe guys. So yeah there's always there's cantaloupe in the fridge a decent amount and I would eat them. I think that's an insane pick but that's fine. Yeah I mean it's it's it didn't make my board. I like I wouldn't turn down cantaloupe but isn't like it's a pretty negative fruit. Also is it shut the fuck up. Bill you don't even fucking eat fruit. I don't like fruit. Tell me to shut the fuck up again and green and purple. I don't like
Starting point is 02:00:59 wait I have a question. Is it is honeydew melon. That's just better cantaloupe right. Is melon. It's it's different. It's like the green one. Yeah that that's better right. He's got a better name. Yeah so yeah I like that. Cantaloupe helps you grow. Is that a fact. Yeah from Memes just text me that. Oh he's oh he's listening and trying to it was a can was cantaloupe memes pick. No I said I think we go cantaloupe. He said I'm thinking cantaloupe as well. Wow. I was thinking cantaloupe. Yeah. All right so PFT we have two picks here. These are big two picks. I just texted you three things. Cantaloupe is a sweet melon. Oh suck it. Okay. Okay. What do you think. I do like your the first one that you sent over. Well there's we have three picks. We have two picks
Starting point is 02:01:43 and three fruits that are all dynamite fruits like knock your socks off fruits. Okay so I love the first one. I love the last one too. I know I love the second one. So well I know the second one it's a risk. It's a risk. All right. Like how long are you going to do this for. Okay. All right. Our next pick our next pick our next pick our next pick is blueberries blueberries easy pick blueberries are delicious. No one doesn't like blueberries rich and antioxidant. The best in a pie. Yes. Muffins. Oh yeah. Put a little on your cereal. Delicious delicious blueberry pie delicious. Okay so PFT go ahead. I am here. I know what no no no before you say anything. I just want to say to you. I support you 100 percent. Okay. This is my favorite fruit maybe in
Starting point is 02:02:33 the world nectarines. Nectarines are delicious. Go off. They're basically an orange. Go off. You don't know what a nectarine is bro. The nectarine. If it's a basically a peach you would have been right. It's the same species. Yeah. Yeah. But if I'm no but it's also got some peach elements to it. Yeah. It's a different fruit. Yeah. If I'm doing just a pure dry if I'm like if I have a big board and I'm not drafting by need I'm just saying best player available. Number one to me is nectarine. Nectarine is the best fruit in the entire world. Delicious. I had a nectarine last weekend. I came my pants. Yeah. Delicious. I came. I'm not ashamed to believe it. I saw it. All right. Well with our last pick we got my favorite great PFT. Thanks. Thanks big cat. Peach.
Starting point is 02:03:15 Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good pick like nectarines are better. Why do peaches sell more because they're more exclusive and why do more people watch the Big Bang Theory than Arrested Development. Good. Good question because one's on TV and one's not a Hank. You know they were both on TV. Hitler had millions of followers. Jesus only had 12. That's true. What. What. Say it. Say it. Billy just said just trust me. I love it. Buckle up. He's going full sense. All right. Yeah. No peaches are fine but nectarines are better. Yeah. Yeah. You you forgot blueberries. I'm a big blueberry guy. Sure about that. Yeah. Listen. Canals. I would rent canals. If it was my personal Mahler's more there at the top. Wow. Okay. Billy. This is the full
Starting point is 02:04:01 send Billy. I'm so I'm so excited. This look you guys are going to hear it and you'll be like whoa. But will we know what it is. Yes. Okay. That's a good start. Corn. Oh god. Corn is a fruit. Can you guys be that. Is it. I'll let Billy say whatever you want to say. No. No. That's going on the graphic. Is it. I think it's a corn. Corn is a fruit. It's like a vegetable. If you look it up corn is a fruit. It has fruit qualities. Wait. That doesn't mean it's a fruit. No. It has qualities of a fruit. It's fruit. Curious. Yeah. No. It has so the kernels corn are fruit. Is it a grain. The first question is grain. So the first question on on Google is why is corn not a fruit. An ear of corn is not technically a fruit and said each kernel is a
Starting point is 02:04:57 fruit. Exactly. But that's not. So you're taking one kernel one single kernel of corn. Like a single one single plant. So are you taking one strawberry one school part of the strawberry. No. If you had a taste test remember remember you're taking a but you only eat kernels of corn. No. No. No. If we did if we if we put this all out in the kitchen and we said here's everything you get one cantaloupe you get one blueberry you get one strawberry you get one nectarine and you get one kernel of corn. There's kernels of corn that are bigger than one blueberry. Okay. That's fine. But you still like blueberry has a lot of taste in it. Corn does not have corn is very sweet. They're a great band with butter. I love corn corn. I love corn. I don't
Starting point is 02:05:42 love corn. All right. So you guys vetoed it. So we're going with no no no no no no no no no no no no. He gets a single kernel of corn. I know you might be out there and you might be like me and not really like fruit but love corn and you're going to vote for team Jilly because of corn and there's some of you who might just love corn in general. Who are you talking to. I'm talking to the corn lovers of America. We're going to vote for us and bring us. Trish got your vote. Bring team Jilly to our first W this season because of corn. No it lasts every time. Oh but corn will bring us there. I love trusting corn. Okay. So a single kernel of corn is going on the Mount Rush. No no corn. It's just corn. Yes. No corn is what I just say. You're scared of
Starting point is 02:06:27 corn. No no no. You are scared of corn. Corn is actually a vegetable. That's what it says. And then a single kernel of corn is a fruit. That's like saying the stock of a strawberry is a vegetable. It's no no. We said you get the strawberry. No no no but when no the corn is a vegetable. No no corn is a fruit. Corn is a fruit. Great pick. Corn. Great pick Bill. I think it's a good pick. On the graphic four letters. C O R N. No. K O backwards R N. Yeah we'll do that too. If you put corn the band on there you might actually get more votes. Yeah I'm down with that. Corn. If everyone if you ask someone like can you pick up some fruits at the grocery store you think anyone calls that corn. In Billy's defense sweet corn is really good. Corn. Corn. I know it is but I
Starting point is 02:07:15 you're scared of corn. Corn is one of my favorite foods of all time. I'm not saying corn is not it's not a fruit. No I know. Corn you're scared of corn on there because corn might win. I'm shaking him. Bill Murray gift. OK. Why why did we have that big knock down drag out earlier about tomatoes if you guys didn't even pick them. Well I was and you were gonna pick corn instead. Yeah. Oh you were afraid that the bullshit vegetable rule would apply to corn. That's why you're protecting future picks. We missed a lot. The one we were deciding between Pear got missed. Pear's delicious. I like Pear. The only the only reason I didn't pick it besides the fact that shout out to all the pairs. Yeah is. Yeah. Pears. Pears can sometimes get mealy. Yeah. Be a little bit mealy. That's
Starting point is 02:08:00 true. Blueberry I think is more consistent than I was going to pick before I did peach to kind of troll us. We're going to cherry. Cherry's a good pick. I like cherries. Raspberry's are good. Raspberry's blueberries are good. No avocado. We didn't pick limes. Limes. I didn't know if you were going to open the door to like a play on word for fruits like fruit snacks fruit by the foot. Means want to do the Catholic Church for our last pick. Blue raspberry fruity pebbles. Yeah. Blue raspberry white cherry. Things that don't actually exist. But we know what they taste like. Yeah. We know exactly what the mystery flavor. I see. I'm trying to think what other what other fruits did we forget? Fruit punch. Fruit de mar. Fruit de de mar.
Starting point is 02:08:44 Wait. What else? Mangoes. Mangoes. Great one. Clementines. Clementines are better than oranges I think. It's easier. Good point Jake. Clementines are better than oranges. They're easier. I think tangerines are better too. Plums. Dragon fruit. Dragon fruit. Star fruit. Passion fruit. Guava. You just keep naming fruits. I'm just naming high noons. Yeah. Papaya. Lemon. Yeah. Lemon. Lemon. Grapefruit. Trash. Thank you. I'm not a big grapefruit guy. Coconuts. Are those fruits? No. Yeah. What are you going to say fruit expert? I think there's seeds so that doesn't make them a fruit. But you know what like they are fruits. They are but they aren't. I think they're seeds. Fruit flavor. So a nut. Yeah they're a nut. Apricots. Again second
Starting point is 02:09:40 a far distant second to the mighty nectarine. We cover the good ones. I actually think blackberries might be the big I like blackberries a lot. Blackberries are very good. Pairs are also very good. All right anything else? That was a good Mount Rushmore. Very good. I feel I feel good about this show overall. I feel like Billy and Jake are going to get their first win. Do you think so with corn? If corn is four letters C-O-R-N on the graphic I think we're going to go. All right so then we have to have it be that. Yep. That's fine. What are you going to put on there? How many how many how many how much corn are you going to eat if you lose? We I mean look big corn is going to pull us through. They're out there. Okay ethanol.
Starting point is 02:10:29 Get the oil lobby to weigh in on this one Billy. If you lose I want to see you eat five pounds of corn. No what? Five pounds of corn. I want to see five pounds of corn. What happens if we win? How much corn will you eat? That's yeah big guy if you're going to put it up for him you got to you're going to be able to take the same risk. Well I didn't say he's going to win but he said he's going to win. I didn't say I'm going to win. You scared of five pounds of corn? Do you guys want to see me fail another eating challenge or have another man? Yeah I don't know what we do. Sounds like big guys scared of five pounds of corn. I think I think you guys should not think you're scared of your draft. That was that was a perfect example Billy just talking his way
Starting point is 02:11:06 out of what seemed like a surefire win at the moment. Like you nobody out there wants to see me fail another eating challenge. They'll all vote for you. All right. All right. How about a pound I'm talking about by the way after like loose corn not ears. Yeah yeah not ears of corn. A pound of corn. You want to go pound of corn? Is the pound of corn a lot? I don't know. Yeah pound of corn. How much is one cup of corn? Five cups of corn we have to eat. Not do a pound. A pound of corn. But it's five cups more. You can do a pound. Now I know I'm saying it's five cups more than a pound. A pound is I don't know. What's one pound of corn or I'm saying five if I'm comfortable with with betting five cups of corn. What size cups like measuring. No like the
Starting point is 02:11:58 ones we order the corn I'm thinking of the corn that we get from oh oh the yeah the couple corn yeah no no no the Hank knows exactly the corn. Street corn but what's that mixed with all kinds we'll figure it out we'll figure it out yeah just make a better don't do it yeah well no I want to eat a lot of corn I don't know how much a pound of corn is I'll eat a pound of corn you let's just enjoy corn new segment cornography all right pound of corn okay deal let's go you have to win I'm voting for oh so you're gonna move over for Billy so are you gonna tamper well yeah yeah I'm absolutely gonna tamper how we're gonna combine followers and not even still be close to you guys so if if they win then that's on you guys okay great no one's listening you're close to a
Starting point is 02:12:48 million right you're very close to a million seven a million what Twitter followers thank you Jake yeah that's nice to you nice seven what am I at uh let me see big how you did like a ice cream party right when I just ate a pint of ice cream I'm gonna lock my account 973.3 lock my account when I get to 999 that'll be metal yeah fucking I don't need I don't need or it could be like that YouTube stream where we get really close and then people just dip on purpose yeah and then climb up seven sounds like you want that Jake all right seven seven thank you Jake that was very nice of 69 26 I'm gonna go with 27 back girl uh 43 43 I was yours Hank seven let me go with 22 for one soda every time we say back girl I keep thinking there might be a chance there's a girl in the corner
Starting point is 02:13:41 I look it's max oh it's 200 270 pounds that's one of the dumber things that you've ever said I just say his weight he's also not 27 pounds say 70 was that 20 20 20 Hank what'd you pick use doc's weight bro do you say that that max weighs 270 pounds yeah use doc's weight well that's fucked up Billy damn love you guys oh wait oh he's upset that he can bench more there's a group of six lines killed a group of six lines killed 40 of all lines in the region google ma pogo lions it's metal store ah talking away
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