Pardon My Take - Coach Jeff Fisher, NFL Draft, Game Of Thrones Dumb Theories

Episode Date: April 26, 2019

NFL Draft is here and we completely overreact to the first round. Kyler Murray goes 1, Joey Bosa invented kill the man with the ball, Bucs Minute with Steven Cheah, Daniel Jones is the most hilarious pick of all time, Sean McDermott definitely smelled Ed Oliver and Dan Snyder is a genius. (3:00-28:24) In Memoriam 2018-19 Washington Capitals,(28:25-33:40) NBA Playoffs,(33:41-38:10) and our Fyre Fests of the week.(38:11-43:09) Coach Jeff Fisher joins the show to talk about Draft War Rooms, memories of big drafts and trades, and how he got so damn good at twitter. (46:02-1:18:04) Sabermetrics for QBs being important,(1:21:05-1:23:31), Just Chill out Man for Nick Saban, (1:23:32-1:25:00) hmmm for Duke cheating because of course they do,(1:25:01-1:27:25) FAQ's,(1:27:26-1:31:01) and stupid Game of Thrones theories and predictions before Sundays big episode.(1:31:02-1:41:10)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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PFT, let's overreact to the NFL Draft. I don't do overreactions, but Dan Snyder is the best talent evaluator in the history of the National Football League. Okay, so we don't do overreactions, but we are going to overreact to a few things. Let's start from the top. We'll get to Dwayne Haskins and Dan Snyder somehow becoming the greatest drafter of all time, but we have to start with the top and the top is always with Roger Goodell coming out with Marcus Mariota, probably the worst shield he's ever come out with because usually

he comes out with the troops hoping that that will bring down the booze. Our kids. Yeah, our kids. Yeah, someone maybe who doesn't have a leg or something. This year he comes out with Marcus Mariota and he basically says the Titans fans are like, well, we kind of don't like him either. Usually when you bring a shield out, the shield is supposed to protect you from injuries and Marcus Mariota is like, he's the last thing from a shield.

No, possible. So he's not protecting the shield. He's not protecting Roger Goodell. I'm actually just happy he showed up because usually for the big game, he's questionable if not doubtful. I was going to say I'm shocked that he didn't sprain his MCL walking up to the podium. It's actually his elbow is what he always hits that funny bow. Both.

Yeah, he's got he's got weak knees too. Yeah. Goodell credit to him. Showed he's a real locker room guy, gave him a nice little pat on the butt and then Mariota gave up or I'm pretty sure that Goodell didn't even tell Mariota that he was going to be giving a speech. Yep. He was just like, hey, get up there and say something.

So I don't have to talk the whole time. Mariota goes, let's do this. Basically, basically he goes Aloha Aloha. Let's go guys. And then obviously when Roger Goodell comes out, the heavens open up, torrential rain pour comes down. Opposite of heaven's opening up. Yeah.

Well, no, the heavens open up and then rain comes down. So angels came down. No, the skies. Yeah. And then it's just everything comes down. Yeah. You don't know heaven and hell or just whatever you make of it. That's fucking deep.

That's too deep for draft night. All right. First pick. Dave Gettelman then is sitting on a cloud. Yeah. We'll get Dave Gettelman. First pick. Kyler Murray.

Everyone expected it. Everyone knew it was coming. Kyler Murray in his pre-draft interview with Susie Colbert, who I think Susie Colbert might be taller than him, says that his favorite movie of all time is Great Gatsby. That is the biggest red flag we've ever seen. If you're going to pick a de Caprio movie, it should be Catch Me If You Can if you're real quick. How about The Beach?

Oh, The Beach is a solid one. Really good. You want to talk about it? We'll spoil the ending later. Yeah, yeah. But anyway, Great Gatsby. Either it's a try hard move to be like, I love movies that were books or you're just lying because there's no one on earth who thinks Great Gatsby is their favorite movie.

Right. Also, I'm pretty sure Kyler Murray is the kind of guy that likes the Great Gatsby because he thinks Gatsby is cool as hell. He throws these sick parties and he's just a boss. He does the Leo dance 15 years after it was cool. Yeah. There was nothing cool about that book or that movie. Yes.

I'm on the record. Facts. Fuck Scott Fitzgerald. Kyler Murray's pick also proved that any time any coach anywhere gets in front of a media row and says, this is my guy. It's not his guy. My old Rex is my quarterback by Lovey Smith. Cliff Kingsbury, February 12th, 2019 said, Josh is our guy.

No. Yeah. Not true. My guy is the kiss of death. Yes. That would be a pretty awesome kiss if it's coming from Cliff. Yeah. That's all I'm going to say about that.

Well, if he's wearing his sunglasses. Then we've got, yeah, that's right. On record, not as hot. Cliff Kingsbury, not as hot as earlier reported. Then you've got Josh Rosen dealing with the fallout. Yep. So we all know that he has a problem with authority. Now he's going to have a big problem with his authority because he doesn't really have

a position anymore. Nope. It's not going to be an open competition. They're trying to trade them, trying to ship them to like the Dolphins or somewhere like that. I think that they should probably wait. We were talking about this earlier. Yes.

I think, here's the thing. On draft night, your draft picks are worth so much more in your own brain than they really are. The team is going to give up, I don't think, a second round pick for Josh Rosen because in their minds, it's like, whoa, this, it's a surprise package. It's a mystery box. Yes. It could be something awesome.

It's probably not. It's probably going to suck. Right. But in your head, it's like, this could be my franchise guy right here. So teams are more reluctant to trade away high picks on draft night than they might be, let's say, first couple weeks of training camp or after the injury bugs start fighting some teams. The injury bugs.

Yeah, because right now the next two months, this is actually the lowest that the Cardinals would get for Josh Rosen because they just drafted Kyler Murray and everyone's going to look at him and be like, you guys can't keep both these guys. So they've got to wait until someone gets injured, a Teddy Bridgewater injury. We don't root for injuries. We don't root for injuries, but that would be when to trade them. It's still going to be very awkward to have Josh Rosen and Kyler Murray in the same QB room if he somehow stays on the team for like the next three months.

Right. And it also matters how gruesome the injury is going to be because the value goes up. The more players on your team throw up from watching the injury, the more you're willing to part with to get a Josh Rosen. Yes. All right. Number two pick also not a surprise. Joey Bosa, San Francisco 49ers.

The Bosa's are now the new Bronx. It is a football family. They're all fucking meatheads, even the moms of Meathead. And they... But she would beat my ass. Oh, kick my ass. Everyone in the Bosa family played football and we also had the nugget that Trey Wingo threw out there that the Bosa's invented the game, kill the man with the ball, which they did

not. And they also... There's a 0.0% chance the Bosa's called to kill the man with the ball. That is not what the Bosa family would call that game at all. We know what the Bosa family called that game. I heard that come out and I said the name that I thought it would be and we're like, that's... There's no chance that the Bosa's called it kill the guy with the ball.

That's too many syllables, number one. Every kid who's ever played kill the man with the ball knows that the Bosa's did not call it kill the man with the ball. Right. I thought that it was a nice touch that Bosa gave Goodell an open mouth kiss just to show how his views have progressed recently. Yes, he did. So Joey Bosa, not a big shock.

Same with Quinn and Williams, who was going with gray on gray on gray. Also had braces, which I always love, like just bettering yourself, about to be a millionaire, fucking love it. That's actually a great pick for the Jets. They were trying to trade, but it's a good pick nonetheless. No, I like it too. It's like I would much rather have a dude with braces than a dude with an Vizzaline. And then, uh, Cleo and Farrell was the first shock of the night who a lot of people, this

is my favorite thing about mock drafts is we basically just base it off of, uh, this consensus that gets formed where everyone kind of cheats off of each other's mock drafts and they're like, well, that guy wasn't supposed to be picked at four. Right. It's got to be a bust. Now, I do probably think it was a reach. You probably could have got them later, but whatever, John Gruden's his own man. And they remember they don't have any scouts in the room, so they probably didn't even

have like a mock draft in front of them. That's true. It's like, uh, if you go to a store with a bunch of money in your pocket, then you don't care. You're going to buy something at the impulse rack, like at the checkout, you don't, you'll throw money at it. So they come into this draft with three first rounders, so they're just like, I'm spinning. I'm spinning like it's going to go away.

Right. And it's just going to happen and whatever. We don't care about where a guy should go and whatnot. Uh, we also got the, the cool fact, uh, his father, late father, rest in peace, Clevester, one of the greatest names ever. Clevester and Clevester, that's fucking awesome. That is really good. Yeah.

So Clevester is looking down from the heavens, uh, at his son being drafted. Okay. At number five, Devin White, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and we thought there's only one person who can give us the breakdown here. It is our good friend, Steven Shea. He works senior draft analyst, Steven Shea. He works on the second floor. He's also the producer of the yak.

He's also just a good friend because he's a football guy through and through. He, uh, he's going to say right now, PFT that he didn't cry, but I saw tears in his eyes and Steven Shea is a grown ass man. He's a father and he had tears in his eyes when the bucks drafted Devin White with the fifth pick linebacker, sexy Steven Shea. The bucks minute starts now. My Tampa Bay Buccaneers were on the clock. Number five, uh, blue chip edge, rusher, Josh Allen, unexpectedly available.

Uh, I would have thought he would have been the pick head coach Bruce. He fell to seven. That's where Josh Allen's go. That's true. Yeah. Uh, I would have thought that he would have been the pick, uh, since the head, the head coach, Bruce Arian said, uh, if you draft for need, you get fired. Uh, the bucks just recently lost a middle linebacker from LSU, Kwan Alexander, who actually plays

exactly like, uh, Devin White. So that's his pro comp, um, they, they, they, they took white who I do like. Um, I would have liked a little bit more value. This is very uncommon to draft the middle linebackers high, um, in the top five, especially. Um, but you know what, if it's, uh, if he's a good player, uh, it's going to be a great pick. Now my concern is that he wears number 40 and that number 40 jersey in Tampa Bay belongs to the one, the only Mike All-Star.

So he said that he wants to wear number 40 if he goes to the bucks, right? Correct. What do you think about just doing an Oklahoma drill, just mono and mono when it gets to 40, who you got in that one? I mean, low man wins and it's hard to get lower than the A train. That's true. That's true. That thing runs underground.

Stephen, I got to ask you a question. So you did cry. I did not cry. No, there was tears in your eyes. I was in a state of shock for a little while. Yeah. But it sounds like you've talked yourself back into this, right? I mean, any guy that puts on the red computer, I'm going to read for red computer, who doesn't

know that. We all know that. We all know that. Okay. Last question. When you go home, you've been here for, for however many hours, 12 hours today, you're going to go home, you're going to go into your house, you're going to look at little James J, your son.

He did name his son after James Winston, a little problematic, but whatever. After Derek Brooks. Yeah. Okay. But anyway, are you going to whisper anything like, Hey, we got a stud or you can be like, Daddy's not so happy. It's going to be a tough year. That's a good question.

Yeah. Because I know you will. No, I mean, it's going to be a good year. Everybody's undefeated right now. Okay. As I stated earlier in the rundown, I deal in the currency of hope and it's, it's pay day. Okay.

There we go. So that was the Bucks minute with Steven Shea from tears. We'll be doing that once every, every draft, every draft from tears to somewhere in the middle of, I feel okay. Not a full on cry. Yeah. His draft grade is I was crying, but it wasn't out of despair. It was just out of uncertainty.

If there's only, if there's one day you can cry, it is draft day. There's a lot of tears on draft day. So it's okay. Steven Shea. Thank you so much. The Bucks minute. I trust station light. So we're going to do it.

That's the worst, worst confidence ever. Okay. That was the Bucks minute. That's the longest we're going to spend on the Bucks this year. I guarantee you that it's that and singing the James Winston song. I was going to say, let's hold off on that because James Winston could do something like very embarrassing and we'll probably spend at least two minutes. James.

No. The six pick. The New York giants selected a quarterback at a Duke, Daniel Jones. The shock of the draft. I became addicted. I didn't even know I was addicted to this until it happened. I was addicted to giant fan reactions. We had Archie Manning basically pulling the trigger.

He has the David Cutcliffe connection. They drafted a guy like here's where the giants need credit. They drafted just like, like we said on Wednesday, a more boring Eli. Yeah. So it's more of the same Eli Manning with less pizzazz, which is a Gettelman wet dream. Yeah. He's nutting himself when he saw that here. Here's a quote from the Duke coach, uh, David Cutcliffe, you're ready for this?

Daniel Jones embraces something we believe here. Real swag is no swag. So no swag. Daniel Jones hits a great nickname looking at his face. He looks like a Bollywood version of a Manning. Yeah. You know what I mean? The Dunkyard D list, like straight to lifetime Manning family movie, Daniel Jones is playing

a part of Manning. He looks like Cooper. Like if Eli Manning got hit in the face with a frying pan, that's what he looks like. And guess what? He's now Eli. Now Eli gets another like five years because Daniel Jones is going to be terrible. It was actually, when you think about it, a genius move by Dave Gettelman, because what he did here was he drafted a guy who everyone, all the giants fans, he'd be like, look, we

drafted a guy like, you know, top 10, we have our quarterback of the future. He's just going to suck. And we can keep Eli going and people can stop saying, when are you going to get your quarterback of the future? Yeah. It's a good move. Anytime you're a GM and you can take a quarterback that might not be that great in the top 10, you have to do it just because it extends your job for a while.

Yeah. No, it's great. I actually, I have a theory that he is a member of the Manning family. I think there was some hanky-panky that went on and Archie's got another kid run around by the name of Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones. You tell me that's not an alias? Yeah.

Daniel Jones is the most fucking alias name I've ever heard. Absolutely. He is a Manning. He's Manning through and through. He's been a camp counselor at the Manning passing academy two years. Okay. He's got deep connections. He goes to Duke with the Cut Cliff guy.

I'm doing some more homework on this. Sounds like Game of Thrones. Yeah, it does. He is. He's the rifle heir. He's the rifle heir to the Manning family. And he's also like, he's the child probably of a little bit of incest, so he's probably got a little something wrong with him, you know?

Yeah. He's the third or the fourth Manning. If you count Cooper, which we don't really count, he also, I would like to see, I love this theory. I'd like to see him breathe out of his mouth a little bit to figure out if he's truly a Manning. Yeah. So you know that really dumb look.

What they're going to need to do is put like a medical grade pinwheel in front of his mouth and just register how fast the air is coming out and then they'll know. You are a Manning. Eli, you're safe. You are safe. That was great because he gets drafted and the first thing that ESPN put up on the on the screen was how his siblings are also athletic. That really tells you how much tape this guy has and how good he is when, when the ESPN

scrambling, they're like, well, oh wait, her sister plays field hockey and his other sister plays soccer. Look out. I actually do believe that. Look out, bosses. When this is a real athletic family, I actually would believe that he would call the game, call the guy with the ball. Yes.

Oh, absolutely. He is a guy that. No. Tag the guy with the ball. Yeah. Yeah. Tag the person with the ball because he was probably playing with his sisters. Yeah.

And also you don't want to assume gender. Well, yeah. Right. I guess so. Right. The Jones family does not. Okay. Right.

So Eli, you're safe. This is, there's no way that he wouldn't have been there at 17. You know what's going to be so funny is when he turns out to be a good quarterback. No, he's not. He's not. No, no. But he might beat the Patriots twice in the Super Bowl. That's true.

He might just be terrible and then look into a Super Bowl. You never know. And it would be a hilarious, you know, manning. Oh, sorry. Does that offend all your rings? No. Okay. I feel like Patriots are good enough where I can say whatever the hell I want about them

and you should just be like, I don't care. I'm a champion. All right. Which is what you do anyways. Next up, Josh Allen, seventh pick, Jaguars. Jaguars D is going to be so fucking good. I can't believe he fell to this. I thought, we heard from Steven Shea, he thought he was going to be a buck.

I wouldn't have been shocked if he was taken by the Giants who need a lot of help on the defensive line. But I love when teams be like, yo, we have an awesome defense. Let's just make it even better. Yeah. He's really fucking good. We watched him play. As soon as we found out that there was another Josh Allen out there, we started watching his tape and he's really, really good.

Kentucky was a great team this year and he was by far the best player on that team. And credit to us, we got another Josh Allen draft at seventh overall. Yeah. So good job, boys. Forever known as the Josh Allen zone. Way to go. Way to go. We are a Josh Allen factory.

It's Josh Allen now, right? Josh is next. Fresno's Chase is coming up. I don't think Josh. No, we're going to speak in two systems. All right. Josh is going to be next. TJ Hawkinson from Iowa to the Lions was the eighth pick.

The most Iowa guy looking guy ever. He was wearing a gold tie. He was his face, his hair. Like he'd never seen a hair product. I love him. Like that's the type of guy. If you lined everyone up, you'd be like, wait, that guy only cares about football and probably doesn't even have anything else outside of football.

No, he did look like you dipped a corb, was it a cob of corn? Yep. Cleaned that up for me. Corn cob. He looks like, yeah, he looks like a corn cob dipped in a vanilla sundae. Yeah. And with like a little bit of caramel on top for his hair. Maybe just a touch.

Just a touch. Yeah. So is Iowa, Iowa's now tight end you. It is. It's just him and no fan got picked, falling up on Kittle's success. Yep. Which proves that you, that's the one position that you don't have to actually do that much in college to get drafted in the NFL.

You don't, I wouldn't be surprised if at some point in the next couple of years, just some basketball player who's never played on a football field. Zion would have been a first rounder at tight end. You just catch 30 balls and everyone's like, whoa. Yeah. That guy. He's awesome. Ed Oliver to the Bills.

Shout out to Bills. Love it. The other defense getting better with their defense. So did you see Sean McDermott's quote? The one about the Cheerios. Well, did you see what preceded that? I did. Okay.

So Sean McDermott said about Ed Oliver, you could feel him, presence, energy. The closer you got, the more you felt the quickness, power, the juice. Sean McDermott definitely smelled Ed Oliver. Like sniffed him up and down. Yeah. He's describing him like you would describe a uranium core and like a power play. The closer you got to him, the more your skin started to take it. He's a very football guy coach.

Yeah. And then they asked him what he means by that feeling. And he compared it to driving down the interstate in downtown Buffalo and smelling the Cheerios factory. Yeah. That's right. Awesome. That's right. Be afraid, Hank.

Be very afraid. Yeah. His smell, his power, his presence. It's like, Sean McDermott definitely just got really, when they said goodbye to Ed Oliver on his team visit, he definitely gave him a very, very tight hug that lasted five to eight seconds too long. And he already rocks the Zubaz. Yep. Already knows about diving through tables.

Yep. Most people in Buffalo, you can smell before you see, but that's just like the beer coming out of it. Yeah, yeah, right. Exactly. That's beer and... Beer and vinegar. Yeah. ...wings coming out of their pores.

Devin Bush 10, which I'd like to think it was partly a fuck you to leave you on bail because Devin Bush did do that thing in Michigan State Stadium, Spartan Stadium. He ripped up their center logo and the 50-yard logo. Good pick for the Steelers. They obviously traded up. First time they had a top 10 pick since 2000, which is insane. Coming off the heels of extending Ben Rothsburger. Thank God we have Ben Rothsburger for at least three more years.

And Manning too. And Manning. And we have...so we're going to hop ahead here to what we talked about at the beginning. Dan Snyder. Yes. Draft genius. Now, here's what happened at 15. PFT and I were watching the draft and we actually had the real conversation.

Will Dan Snyder not draft Dwayne Haskins here because he didn't have to trade up for Dwayne Haskins? Yeah, he loves to splash. He likes a quarterback that he moves up to get. Good chase. That's what he does. Wait, he's like, oh, we can have this for free? He doesn't want to. He's like, fuck that.

He's a guy that would second guess himself and be like, well, no other team wanted him, so he's not that sexy of a pick, I guess. I might go take it. I'm thinking somebody got to old Dan tonight. Somebody kept him locked in a meat seller somewhere. Good draft. He's probably hanging out with Tom Cruise. Yeah.

It's a great motivational ambient. And they got Montez sweat, too. And also, I mean, like, if you are bad, drafting a franchise quarterback is the only way to at least be fun. Now, there's hope. Right. Now, there's hope. One of two things happened.

Either Snyder was locked away somewhere or he spent the last several years giving all his money to develop that pill from Limitless, and now he's like a super guru, big brain Dan Snyder. Just going crazy. I think that Dwayne Haskins is, he's the perfect fit. He is a Snyder guy because he was charging 50 bucks per head to get into his own draft day party. That's such a Snyder move.

He was probably charging like 35 to get in if you want to sit behind my fat uncle on the recliner. What was parking? What was parking? Yeah, parking outside was a lot more. It was 120. Yeah, but obstructed view seats at Dwayne Haskins draft party, they were discounted 25 bucks for those.

Let's be honest, Dan Snyder just drafted him because he played, Dwayne Haskins played high school football at the same high school that Dan Snyder's son went to. Million percent. Million percent. That's why. That's the combination of that and also the pictures falling into his lap. Right. And it's like, don't fuck this up.

Yeah. Well, he was like, hey guys, I watched tape from this kid since high school. I know. You know, he thought about taking Drew Luck. Yeah. Drew Luck was in the back of his mind. Yes. But I think he may, I'm excited about the Dwayne Haskins pick.

Yeah. I mean, it's, it's, it's going to be an exciting pick. I think he's going to be good. Washington Sports is back. First Big Ten quarterback taken since Kerry Collins in the first round, 1995. He had a very long career. Big Ten does have, I think, the most super roles, though, so that counts, right? I'll absolutely take that.

I mean, it's pretty much just, well, no, Russell Wilson, Drew Brees, come on, shout out, shout out. All right. Other, other notable picks that we got to throw out there, Dexter Lawrence went to the Giants. So they actually did take a guy who will help their team, unlike Daniel, Daniel Jones. They took a running back to compete with Saquon. Yeah.

They took a running back to compete with Saquon. Really? No. Dexter Lawrence, he got a couple carries. Yeah. He's a guy who did steroids, but we said we believed him. No, he didn't. Yeah.

Because we're like, he was like, I don't know how it happened. We're like, I don't know, dude, I kind of believe you. Yeah. Yeah. Davos Swinney was like, oh man, we're just all really disappointed. We can't believe that this happened. He's a good kid. And we're like, yeah, I believe you, Davos.

Yeah. That's got to be it. Great recruiting job on my brain. It's got to be right there. We had, we had the, the Raiders take their, their other two picks. I'm trying to think of what else. Oh, I had one other note here. The Packers took two defensive players, so they're very scared of Mr. Biskie.

That's it. That's the only way you can think of it, right? Yeah. I mean, why, what, what, what else would they, what they need help everywhere, right? I mean, Savage is really good. Yeah. But they, well, he better be good because Mr. Biskie is going to carve them up. Going to tear that ass up.

Going to tear that ass up. Let's see who else. Yeah. Sweat. We talked about sweat. Yeah. Hollywood Brown. Was he the only wide receiver taken?

No. The Patriots took one with a 32nd pick. Kale, Harry, Harry from Arizona State. Okay. Who's actually a stud. A Herm guy. Yeah. I love when, I love when guys get taken, this is like a very degenerate gambler thing,

but I love when guys get taken from the Pack 12 because you're like, oh, I've watched tape on him, but it's really, you just gambled on a game at like 11 p.m. at night on a Saturday. Yep. And you're like, oh, he's a stud. Oh yeah. That's a big dude, right? Yeah. Yeah.

He is, he is fucking awesome. You're right. I stayed up late a couple of times. Yeah. That guy's a good pick. Good pick by Belichick. The other thing I had was, Jacobs went to the Raiders in their second pick. He's running back out of Alabama.

Only thing you need to know about this guy comes from the mouth of Lewis Riddick who said, this guy loves to finish on guys. Ooh. Nice. That should help. He will finish off, I mean, Marshawn Lynch was a guy who loved to finish on guys. Absolutely. Loved to finish through guys.

Big finisher. In guys, through them everywhere. And in Oakland, you get to finish on guys at third base. True. Perfect fit. For one more year. For one more year. One more year.

All right. That was the NFL draft. We'll talk about more on Monday's show because we have the other fucking, fuck the NFL for making this so long now. You know what? I kind of liked it when it was Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Yeah. But no, the best was when it was Saturday, one, two, three, I think even four, maybe

some years, and then Sunday was five, six, seven. So Saturday was basically 10 a.m. to like, you know, in 8 p.m. 10 a.m. is too early for my brain to look at football. Tailgate. Tailgate. To get the draft. Yeah. In your living room.

Nashville did a great job, I'm told. Great job, Nashville. Except for those poor ladies who wanted to have a bachelorette party and they didn't know the draft was happening. One of the best clips ever when they're like, yeah, we had our bachelorette party planned forever. Not like the draft isn't planned for like five years in advance. And they showed up and they're like, we tried to go to Broadway.

And there was just guys in Lucha Libre mass and yelling and people wearing offensive linemen jerseys and screaming and chugging beers. There was a man in a Vikings jersey with his face painted and Goldilocks braids down to his knees yelling at me about his center from NC State. They just wanted for the gram and they got all these fucking guys just getting shit-faced on Broadway. You know what the NFL should do is they should have each round of the draft in different cities. And every year it should just be Nashville, Austin, New Orleans, and Charleston, South

Carolina. And just fuck up everybody's bachelorette parties. Wait, one more. And the bleachers at Wrigley. And the bleachers at Wrigley. That's it. And that's all the spots. Just going on a mission fucking up every bachelorette and bachelorette party.

Every single one. By the way, if you have a bachelorette party at the draft, that's just cool as hell. That's fucking cool. That means you're doing it right. Just fucking getting crazy. I got tickets to the draft. We went to all seven rounds. All right.

We got to talk about something. The capitals. Turns out it wasn't their year. It's still our year. We're still the champions. We're still the Stanley Cup champions for another month. Will you be doing Saugie Soros? It's funny you asked that, because I did bring something in.

You didn't know I was going to do this. Well, I was hoping you were going to. You were going to bully me into it. No. I was just going to ask. I just asked. No, you're wearing a hat. PFT's wearing a hat and he just dropped, I would say, about a quarter of a cup of water

on his head. I'll do another one. I'll do another one. That was the sad. You know what? No, that's actually the perfect Saugie Soros. That was so sad. Hey, that was so sad.

Don't even need to do more. That was so sad what he just did. That's Saugie Soros right there. I'm giving you credit. Full credit. You know what? When I brought this in here, I made a mental note to take my hat off. So I wouldn't get this sweet ass part of my take hat on.

On sale now. On sale now. So yeah, the caps are eliminated. They were up 2-0, 3-1 in the game 7, PFT might have jinxed them. No, I didn't jinx them. I did not jinx them at all. A lot of plans being made. No, listen, I did have it in my brain that the Stanley Cup was ours and that we'd never

give it back and that we were just going to win. There was a very small part of me that truly believed that we would have the Stanley Cup forever, that we would just never lose another playoff series. And so that was kind of tough. It was more about me just accepting the fact. I was in denial after we lost. You were. No, this is not how this ends.

I'm a champion. Game 7 Double Overtime is a very like, because it really is just so, boom, it's over. Yeah, and listen, game 7s in general are tough to watch as a fan. And Overtimes, I was just ready for it to be over. I had pretty much resigned to the fact that we're going to lose after the first overtime period. But in the back of your head. In the back of my head, I was like, we're going to steal one.

We're going to steal one here. We're going to go to Vegas. Oh, wait. No, I jinxed them. I can't wait to go to Toronto. Oh, wait. No, I jinxed them. Yeah.

Here's the deal. Hamilton the Pig was a problem for us. I did not account for Hamilton the Rally Pig. Yeah. If I had known going into the series about the Rally Pig, probably would have been a different story. And you guys threw out all the stops. Oh, she comes out, gets the crowd whooped up.

There was that weird like game 7s for teams. I think it happens when like, if this was two years ago, actually, I don't know. Game 7s are weird when the crowd starts to feel that dread. And it's not, I'm not calling DC a bad sports town. Oh, you can. But it did feel. Didn't you feel like the energy? Actually, no, fuck you.

They kept the metro open until like one o'clock last night. Didn't you feel like the energy in the in the barn, like in that first and second overtime? It felt just eerie. Yeah. And you can feel it. And it's like, I don't know about this. Yeah. I did feel that.

And the worst, the worst part about that loss is just accepting the fact that I'm not going to have anything really to root for for the next like month and a half. Yeah. I liked that a lot last year. Yeah. Having something to live for, being able to feel like the feeling of, OK, hope, we can do this. That's the word I was looking for.

Happiness. Being able to feel happy about sports. Yeah. And it's very strange for me to feel happy about one of my sports teams. But I'm going to miss that. And I realized that the only thing that I can do to make up for that giant hole is going to be gamble more heavily on the sports that I am watching. So that's going to be a problem for me.

I can tell you already. I'm going to start putting way more money than I normally do on these games. All right. So last question for the caps. You know we love storylines. Mm-hmm. Will OV ever win the big one? No.

I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think he has the clutch change. Hey, verbal meme, OV lifting up the Stanley Cup, but the Stanley Cup is actually just golf clubs. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Listen, I've got to trade them.

Got to trade them. Not a winner. Got to trade them. Yeah. So I will say this, I'm sick of seeing that little new power play that they were doing last night. They had a new power play, but they did it every single time. I think they call it the slingshot.

Yeah. It bleeds about 20 seconds off the clock every single time they do it. You got to wind it up. Got to wind it up. Was not happy with that, but you know what, we're still champions for another few weeks. Okay. And Hank, you want to talk about the Bruins? They won a game seven since we last taped.

Yeah. I mean, I kind of know exactly what PFT has talked about. I'm excited that I do have the opportunity with the Bruins and the Celtics. You know, the one thing that PFT, you guys can probably relate to this, but like, they're scheduled. There's just so much going on that it's like, you know, it's like a full-time job just watching these Celtics and Bruins games, but you know, that's the price you got to pay. Yeah, you're going to have to take a vacation after this.

It's another one. This is a lot of work. I will say though that everything happens for a reason. And the fact that I have not watched Game of Thrones until this season took a little bit of the sting out of that loss because the Hurricanes tweeted out, you have to bend the knee to us. And so I did not understand it because I do not watch the show. Yep.

So that was, I feel like I was totally vindicated for not watching Game of Thrones until now. That's nice. Yeah, that went right. Like, you don't have to feel the pain on that. Everybody was like, that was such a sick burn by the Hurricanes. Oh. And I was like, I'm really glad I'm ignorant. Yeah.

We're getting to the saturation point. I'm part of the problem. Big part of the problem. Game of Thrones. You're not, you're a symptom of the problem. The thing is though, there's four episodes left. I know, yeah. You're right.

It can happen. And honestly, this week's episode looks like it's going to kick ass. We're going to get to it. We're going to get to it. I wrote down some notes. I have some major thoughts and we have some theories too. All right. We also need to talk quickly before we do our Firefest of the Week NBA playoffs.

We're going to have the most boring game seven of all time with the spurs of the nuggets. That series is still going on. I've watched like four of those games and I don't remember anything. No, nothing. And they've all been bad. All the games have been bad and it's game seven. It makes no sense. The, since we last taped, Damien Lillard put his nuts on the fucking ground and Russ Westbrook's

thunder have officially been canceled. I think it's, it is like you got to trade someone there because it doesn't work anymore. Playoff P. And playoff P. Playoff L. And Damien Lillard had like the greatest troll. He did the, he did the goodbye after he hit like a 40 footer or whatever it was. And then Paul George got all salty and was like, that was just a bad shot.

It was a bad shot. Like bro, what are you talking about? He made it. It was a good shot, but sometimes bad shots are good. And also they call him, like one of his nicknames is logo Lillard because he can shoot from that far out. Yeah. I think there, I kind of understand what he's saying because in general you would let

a normal person take that shot. Okay. But here's the thing. Damien Lillard had a good response to it. He said, there was two seconds left. I obviously wasn't driving. What are you doing? Giving me that space.

Yeah. Here's my reaction. If it was a bad shot, I wouldn't have made it. Right. And I'm happy that Damien Lillard is getting some shine because he is a top 10 NBA player. And it's awesome to see him like, be like, stand up in the big moment and after, especially after last year. And I want them, I want the Blazers to get to the Western Conference finals.

Is this going to help bury the hatchet between Kevin Durant and C.J. McCollum? The fact that they dispatched Russell Westbrook? Yes. Absolutely. Katie might go back on his fucking podcast. So we should bring up Kevin Durant's Warriors because they are Kevin Durant's Warriors. First I made a, a drunk note when I was watching the, I was watching the Thunder the other night.

It was a drunk show. I got back to the hotel room. Okay. Watched the end of it. You know how I said I was pissed off about not having Steven Adams mic'd up all the time? I found the perfect analogy. Watching Steven Adams without sound is like listening to porn without the images. That's kind of hot though.

Just listening to it? Every now and then? Yeah. Well, it was kind of cool seeing him yell at him and point his finger, but I wanted, I needed the, I need the sound to really get me there. Let me clarify. It's not that hot listening on your TV, but if you're live listening is kind of hot. If you're live, like if your roommate is jerking off, no, your roommate's having sex

and you're like, damn, what's going on over here? I do like that. It's just without the camera, which we're saying there's no camera. You're just, yeah. You're just a peeping Tom. You're listening to sex. You're just a peeping Tom. Well, no.

You're peeping, listening. Use your ears, not your eyes. You're walking down the street. Yeah. Here's someone going on the window. There's some sex and you're like, huh, let me just sit here and listen. Yeah. That's all I'm doing, listening.

That kind of thing. My favorite is when I can hear the neighbors and Leroy does the head tilt to the side like, hmm? Yeah. How long do they last? I've never heard of sex sounds in my life because I'm PFT's dog. How long do they last? Not that long.

Okay. Good. I don't want to show. Makes me feel good about myself. Yeah. Like that. I would move. I'll put it this way.

Long enough, but not that long. So the Kevin Durant's Warriors, because they are Kevin Durant's Warriors, Steph Curry is injured again. At what point, I still think they're going to win the title. But at what point do they keep losing like, you know, they've lost two to the Clippers now and they looked bad at certain points and turnovers and all that bullshit. At what point we're like, Hey, maybe they aren't going to win the title. I think they still are.

Okay. All right. Yeah. All right. Look at me. Good for us because we have a bet with Hank where there's absolutely nothing on the line. Yeah. Did you see Draymond Green just completely owned Steve Kerr in the press conference?

We're going to play my music. That is, let's just say this is the end of the war. Like this is their last run. They either win the title this year and go off as, you know, three in a row, all that shit or they lose and everyone goes their other way and hates each other and we get an awesome book that Steve Kerr will hopefully write in like five years. Yeah. They're like, they're roommates in college that loved living with each other.

But by the start of that fourth year, it's a summer after graduation and then their lease is up for two, another two months and they're like, well, we're all moving to different cities. You got two guys who are like, come on, let's just do one more year. Right. And they just sound like we'll get, we'll get serving jobs. It'll be awesome. Take a victory lap.

Two of them aren't talking. Yeah. Yeah. It's just, it's getting a little awkward in the apartment. Very much. Dishes are piling up. There's a lot of shit. There's a lot of angst going on.

All right. Firefest. Firefest of the week before we get to coach Fisher. Hank, why don't you start? So this week, weekend we are at Ruffin Rowdy in West Virginia. We took a flight home. Big Cat mercilessly mocked me while I, you know, I was getting a little scared during turbulence, but that's not my firefest.

Hank, you should mention it was a side note. It was a private jet. It was a private jet. I didn't want to say it. You had to say it. No, well, you said it. Well, you said it. But I mean, everyone, you don't think I'm going to say it.

So your firefest is riding on a private jet. And you have a little turbo lens. That, that, no, that's a side note. My firefest was that when we landed my ears in pop for five days straight. And so like for the whole week, I couldn't hear anything. I know. Got to the point. But usually it's like a day.

I know. I heard the levels on the last podcast. It's like a day or two. But by like, by like Tuesday and Wednesday, I just assumed that I was never going to hear right again. You could just go underwater. Just, just. No, I was trying to do what I was doing the thing where you like hold your, hold your

nose and blow out. Yeah. I was trying to do it all for like an hour. And I was like, I think I'm just, I'm resigned. Go underwater and never come up. Yours will not be clogged anymore. Yeah. You'll, yeah.

Your hearing will be great. Right. So do that next time. All right. John, yourself. That's a Chicago slang. Yeah. As we learned from Derek Rose.

Yes, exactly. Exactly. I'm going to do it myself. Everyone. All right. PFT you go. Mine also has to do with airplanes. So I'm, uh, Tuesday night, we play the show.

Actually, I'm going to switch it up. Skeet skirt. Here's the, here's the real fire fest of my week. We were playing down in ECU at ECU in Greenville, North Carolina on Tuesday. Yeah. Our band was playing pretty cool and it was a great show. Thank you to everybody that came out. It was so much fun.

And we were going to close our set by playing all I do is win like a punk cover of it. I have a feeling this is going to be an all time brag. And halfway through the set, a guy, Gaz, comes on stage and whispers to all of us, hey, you can't play all I do is win because T-Pain's here and he's going to come out and perform that right after you're set instead of you. This is brutal. What a fire. So we were already, it was going to be our best song of the night.

Then we have to stop. And now everybody remembers that as a T-Pain concert and not a punk concert. Fuck. What a fire fest. You can watch the whole thing on stool scenes. Oh, wow. Oh, the entire thing? The entire thing, but uh.

Clips. Clips of it. Okay. Yeah. It was like an hour and a half. All right. My fire fest of the week is the entire month of April's weather. And I actually am going to make a contention.

There's going to be a very bold take. You guys are going to tell me I'm the dumbest person ever. Just let me explain myself. April has the worst weather of any month. Fact check. False. Okay. Here's why.

Because you can't fucking plan for it. It's cold. It's still the winter. Then it's hot. Then it's cold again. Then it rains. It's rather at least no January is going to suck no matter what. I can just fucking bundle up.

What are you playing for? What are you playing for? Just stop. Let me finish. The other part about April is for us Husky guys out here. There's Husky guys only can listen to this part. April is the first time where the sun comes out and it gets warm. And you realize the 15 extra pounds can't be hit under a sweatshirt anymore and it is

absolutely terrifying. Yeah. This is actually the best month for jumpsuits. Yeah. It is. Jumpsuit April should be the thing. Yeah. Yeah.

Because they're so versatile. Right. They really are. They're like the Swiss army knife of clothes. You can put on the sweatpants, put a t-shirt on, and then put the sweatshirt over top. Boom. Take the sweatshirt off. You're just rocking a cool tee.

Exactly. And as someone PFT, you were overweight in April for a few days. Currently. Yeah. No. You got on a diet. But don't you agree? When it gets warm out, that first day that it's warm out and you're like, shit, I actually

have to wear a t-shirt and nothing else. It's a terrifying day. That is the worst day of the year for me every single year. Yeah. I thought that medium t-shirts, they were making them smaller this year. It's like, wait, hold on. And then you become the... Damn, European sizes.

And then you become the guy who's wearing a sweatshirt when it's 80 degrees out and everyone's like, dude, aren't you hot? That's the worst thing to get, though. Aren't you hot? Mm-hmm. Like, yeah, I'm really hot. But you know what, I'm also really fat and I don't want to show that through my t-shirt that doesn't fit.

Okay. So April is a very inconvenient month. Correct. For weather. I just, I'm saying worse in terms of like, I just know, I like to know what I can, like, I just, if it's January, I know it's going to suck. I can plan for it, Hank, shut up. I can plan for it.

I know it's going to suck. I can deal with it. I like things that are consistent in my life. I don't like change. I don't like up and down. That's why I can't deal with April. Also we're guys and I have no problem wearing a t-shirt on a day that I thought was going to be warmer and it ends up being a little bit chilly.

I can power through that. Yeah. I'm a dude. Like, this is the NFC North. It's raining halfway through the day and then it stops raining. It's tough to walk around in a t-shirt in the rain. Fucks you up. Yeah.

We're not going to use umbrellas. We're guys. We don't do that. So I did see a woman as it was drizzling a little bit today. I saw a woman crossing the street and she didn't have like an umbrella or anything, but she had a plastic bag that she put over her head, a clear plastic bag that she was just wearing over her head. She was crossing the street.

I was like, that's awesome. Yeah. Way to go. Way to go. So we get to coach Jeff Fisher, a quick word from our sponsors. We love them. It's Honey. Yeah.

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It is Coach Jeff Fisher and we brought on Coach to talk a little draft. I pitched this idea to you and I'm excited about some of these stories. What it's like to be in a draft war room, what it's like on draft night, how all of it works together. So let's just start there like big picture, just the basics. What does a draft war room look like for a coach? If the listeners have watched TV, they're going to see those draft cams and all the draft rooms.

Some guys have suits and ties on, some guys have their stuff on and everybody's sitting around a conference table. What's funny now, this is like a Monday night game. You got all day long to wait for kickoff and the wait's just a killer. So there's Copenhagen flying around, chips and salsa and sunflower seeds and crossword puzzles because it's just a wait. And so the thing doesn't get going until it's kicked off. But the room itself, visualize a big conference table in the middle of the room and then you

get four walls and you've got charts on every wall. The first wall, the main wall, the main chart that they're looking at is the player chart and it's the draft eligible players that they've been ranking for months and months and months by position. So for example, you'll have, you know, start with the quarterbacks and the top one that the club's got rated, he's at the top, his card sits up there and they got the quarterbacks rated from one to whatever and they have, so they go by position offensively, so you go quarterbacks, one of the backs tight ends, et cetera, et cetera, then you go work your

way all the way through defense. So guys are just staring at the board, looking at all these players wishing they could get them all, but they know they can't and then on the other boards, you've got probably a blank board, which is where that card's going to go after he's selected and they'll put them on your teams and things like that. So you've got a bunch of boards all over the place and people are right now just sitting around staring at each other and there's a lot of work goes into it and it really doesn't get going until, you know, until somebody's on the clock.

When your team is on the clock, how much chaos is going on in that room or is it more that you've done your work and you know exactly what the plan, do you know who you're going to take before it becomes your pick? It really depends on where you're picking, I mean, on the clock, I mean, you're on the clock, you should have a pretty good idea, depends on the round and so on and so forth, but I mean, you can sit on the clock and get the player on the phone and make sure, you know, that he's okay, that's a tradition that everybody does, you know, now we're talking about later picks, you know, not the first round, but the second round is, I get it,

we're on the clock, we've got a guy get him on the phone, make sure he's okay, make sure he didn't get the car accident, make sure he's not in jail, you know, get him on the phone, let's talk to him and that is a, you know, that's a whole nother topic, but that phone call that that player gets is the most memorable phone call is lifetime. And that phone rings and he answered it and it may not be the head coach immediately. What we like to do is we give it to the area scout and say, hey, get him on the phone, make sure he's okay before we turn the card in and area scout will call him and say, hey, this is John Smith with the, with the Tennessee Titans stay on the phone, I got coached for

you just a minute and you can hear it all go, go wild behind him in the room, you know, with the family and stuff, but that phone call is a once in a lifetime phone call. So anyway, you're on the clock, you know, teams are going to trade, try to get into your spot. If the teams have done their work, they've called you before you get on the clock, picks maybe suit two or three picks or maybe rounds before it's like, Hey, would you, would you want to, you're going to stay there or would you want to move down and, you know, all right, well, we'll think about moving down.

What do you got for us? And then, you know, you'll talk numbers and talk picks and talk players and do all those kind of things. And, you know, if you move, you move, if you don't, you stay and then, then you take your guy. So, so the hierarchy in terms of decision making, because obviously in NFL teams, some teams, the owner gets the last say, or I guess the owner always gets kind of the last say, but some teams, the owner's more involved.

Sometimes the GM who gets the final say, the coach, what has it been like, you know, in your experience? And when you don't have the final say, if you were ever in that situation, like, would there be a spot where you were just arguing for your guy and you're just like, all right, I got to walk away because there's just nothing I can do. Well, I think in those cases, what you do going in, as you agree to disagree, if you can't agree on a player, then you have to go on to the next player. But it should be a consensus.

It should be a feel good thing with everybody in the road. Now, yes, some owners are in there and some are very, very involved in some other orders aren't. And it's, you know, like Mr. Conkrey with the Rams, and we call Stan and tell him, hey, we're two players away and this is what we're looking at. And, you know, we're thinking about either going this way or that way. And he goes, great, good luck. You know, versus, you know, a very active owner who's in there with a pick.

I had, I got one great story for this. This is funny. When I was with the 49ers way back when 92, 93, you know, there was a tradition there and Carmen policy, who was the president, he got to come in and make the last pick. It was just like that was what they did. So I remember him walking up to the board. I think it was the final pick, something close to that, but he walked up the board. He looked around and he grabbed this quarterback and his name was Elvis Gerback from Michigan.

And he said, I like this guy because there's, there's so few vowels in his last name. So we took Elvis. But, you know, some guys will pick and, you know, some owners obviously have a lot to do with the say, but you know, it's the, it's the head coach and the GM, the director player personnel that are, that are making the decisions. And, and it's always going to be, regardless of who makes the decisions, it's always going to be a, we think, you know, and, you know, sometimes I've been in draft rooms where, okay guys, I know there's some disagreement here, but, you know, when we put this card

in, this is our pick. And, you know, you put all of the opinions aside and it becomes the organization's pick. Out of all the drafts that you've been in, is there one that stands out to you where there was a lot of disagreement about that first round pick? In the first round pick, no. No, I can't say that because the first round picks are, I mean, they're there, you know, you've done so much work. You got through your own mock drafts and you've done through everything.

So I can't say disagreement on, there's frustration that, that takes place in different rounds. You know, you'll, you'll have, you'll be looking at your board and say, for example, you've got a linebacker up there that you've kind of, you've kind of set as a, as your ideal third round or fourth round pick, like this is a steal. Here's our steal. Here's our guy on the fourth round and the guy comes off the board, the end of the first or the second and you go, whoa, do we miss this? Right.

You know, then all eyes go on the scout or the people that put the grade on them, you know, and so on and so forth, but not a lot of disagreement with respect to picks. Now, do you want, where the emotions really sometime you have to keep them in check is when all of a sudden you're getting ready to trade, you know, the aggressive trade up during the draft is very emotional, but you're doing it for a reason. You want to go get your guy. Those, for most of those big trades that take place and like here, we're getting ready to trade overnight, but most of the big trades take place.

The ones I've been involved with, the Washington Redskins, the RG three trade in 2012 or the golf trade where we went to one with Tennessee, those took place weeks, maybe a month beforehand. So, you know, you got plenty of time to do that. But when you start trading around or trading down out of a pick, you better have done your homework, you know, and with all these smoke screens and all this stuff going on, the one that I think people miss. And I think it's one of the most important aspects of the draft. And we saw somebody that I think, and you guys probably talked about what happened at

Oakland when he just excused everybody and said, I don't want anybody in the room. Well, because they don't want any information out. Then I read somewhere, Gil Brent said they planted some stuff and caught a scout leaking some information. But keep this in mind, you know, everybody in the room knows how your organization feels about players. But the thing you got to be careful of is those teams that may be just one pick or two picks above you, those are the ones you got to watch out for.

Because if they get any sense for who you want, then it's game on. And you got to be careful. And I give you a great example. In our first draft in 1995, it was expansion draft. So you got Carolina Jacksonville in Houston, and that was my first draft as the head coach working with my longtime good friend, Floyd Reese, his first draft. And so we're working together. The night before Carolina rumors, there's going around that they're going to trade out

to Cincinnati and Cincinnati is going to go up and get Kejana Carter. So we felt that was probably going to be a done deal. Number two now is Jacksonville. So Coach Coughlin's first draft expansion team, they already got their quarterback, did expansion draft, they got Brunel, and we're hearing that they want, you know, Tony Bacelli, the offensive tackle from USC. And we're three, and our guy is McNair. And our guy is McNair to the point where Bud Adams, Mr. Adams is our owner,

has got his airplane in New York ready to fly Steve back. So word was out that Steve was our guy. So guess what? Jacksonville is on the clock now. Kejana Carter goes to Cincinnati, Jacksonville is on the clock, and Tom Coughlin calls. And he goes, hey, he said, we're sitting here and, you know, I got to, I'm getting some calls from people down below us that want your quarterback. And we're thinking about trading out of this spot.

And then it was like, Floyd was like, oh, shit. So he says, what do you want? And Coach Coughlin says, we'll take a fourth and we'll trade places with you. You get your quarterback, I'll get our guy and we'll go on, we'll be happy. Floyd hangs up the phone, but we go back and forth and back and forth, off from the sixth, no off from the fifth, no. And at that point, you know, we kind of, I just, we had a sense that they're bluffing, they're going to take their tackle.

And so for two minutes after we said, no, we're going to stay put, it was tense. And then when the commissioner tagged the book, it's on the, on the speakerphone there in a draft room, you get here and say, with the second pick in the 1995 NFL draft, the Jacksonville, and as soon as he said Jacksonville, we were relieved. Jacksonville took Bacelli, we got McNair. So basically the point is, is that they knew who we wanted. They were going to try to bluff a pick out of us because they knew who we wanted. Fast forward 2000, I don't know, whenever we had the Hainesworth draft in Tennessee,

we were picking 12 or 13. The New York Giants are behind us, one pick behind us. And we got, I think we got New Orleans ahead of us and we're hearing New Orleans going to take the receiver stalwart out of Tennessee. So we're hoping that either Hainesworth or Buchanan, or the fellow Buchanan receiver from Miami fall, those are our guys that are picked. And as it starts to unfold, New Orleans goes on the clock and we got both of them. We're staring at both of them.

So we get a pick between both the guys that we coveted. So we knew that the Giants wanted Jeremy Shockey to tie it in, right? So guess what? We stand up, I stood up in the draft room, I go, anybody want to get a pick real quick? We'll get our guy. You guys want to see if we can pick up a pick, a late round pick? Yeah. So we get the call to New York and say, Hey, we're getting ready to trade out of this spot

because somebody wants your tight end. And Ernie, of course, he goes, Oh, shit, he hangs up. He calls back. He says, What do you want? I said, Well, we'll take a fourth. And he hangs up again. He calls back, says you got it. So we drop, we switch with the Giants, they get the tight end.

We, we, we go to one pick below and we get Hainesworth and then about an hour later, Coach Flossel calls and said, Hey man, how's it going? Congratulations. You got your guy. We got our guy. Everything's happening. He goes, How about today? So-and-so want the tight end.

And we go, who? Son of a bitch. Oh, that's so good. And hangs the phone. That's so good. Things that go on. But the point, the point is, is that, you know, with all the smoke screens and all this and all the posturing and all the talk and speculation, everything, if somebody above you knows who

you want, watch out. Yeah. Cause that's where, that's where it gets tense. I love it. It's like a big game of chess, but it's, you know, Jeff Fisher and Andy Reed and, and all of our, all the guys we love to watch on Sundays. So what it would, can you remember a time when maybe you did stay and, you know, someone called and you, and you called their bluff and you're like, all right, well, hopefully

they're bluffing. You remember a time when a guy got taken before, maybe a pick or two before and he was your guy and ended up being a great player. And you're like, gosh, we missed on him. I would have loved to have a chance to take him, but he got taken right before. Well, yeah, I give you a great example. It was our first or second year in St. Louis and I had gone to my, my younger son was playing at Auburn.

So I went down. It was a biweek or something. And I walked down, went down and watched Auburn against Utah State. I think it was. And this linebacker dude was just wrecking the Auburn offense. And so we get fast forward. We get into that next off season. I'm kind of, kind of going back and look at some tape and, and find out that the linebacker's

name was Bobby Wagner. And I'm doing the research. And we got, it's that player I mentioned about earlier. We got, we got like a fourth or fourth round grade on the guy. And you know, you can't look at everybody, but just felt the guy was just laid and laid. It just, you know, this guy's got, this guy's going to be really good. And then we got him graded too low. And, you know, we get in that, we get, I don't know, we got it in the third round and we're

looking at him, but we thought, oh no, we were told or convinced that, oh no, he'll be there next time around. You're reaching for him. No, we got to take this guy now or he's going to be gone. And sure enough, you know, we passed, I don't know who we took, but then, then he's gone the next pick. And then, you know, you don't get a great player. So, you know, those kinds of things happen.

You know, you get frustrated with them and then you go back and you do your, you know, you do diligence and how did we miss on this guy? And, you know, it's not necessarily misses. It's more of people, covet people and they, they got players that fit, they like, and so they're going to go out and get their guys. And it's, you know, it's that, that old, you know, do you draft need or you draft best athlete? Well, you know, you better go get your guys.

You know, if you're going to draft a little sooner, then that's okay. And I always like you guys know how I've told about this. I always like the draft grades that are going to come out on Monday. Yeah. Yes. Seems to get A's and B's and C's and D's and all kinds of stuff by all the experts that we're watching for the next three hours and over the weekend. And they're going to give everybody great, but they don't circle back three or four years

after. That's when you really great. We'll grade the draft. Yeah. Do you ever actually catch yourself looking at those grades that come out? Oh yeah. You've come through. Yeah.

I mean, I'm taking serious. You're laughing. You know, you get even more pissed off about guys that are talking about things they don't know what they're talking about. Right. I remember right after the Seahawks drafted Russell Wilson, the lead Bleacher Report writer at the time. They drafted Russell Wilson, Bruce Irvin, somebody else, I forget, but it said, I don't see a

single starting player out of this entire draft, grade F. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's really good stuff. I want to jump back. Actually, that draft go quick. You mentioned the trade with the Redskins where they, I think they gave you four picks

for the right to move up to get Robert Griffin. And then, of course, later on, when you were playing against the Redskins, you sent out all those players as captain for the coin toss against RG3. You denied that you knew what you were doing, but just admit that you knew what you're doing. Oh, I don't know if I denied it. I was the one that had to leak it because no one recognized it. Game was over and it was actually, you know, you're just going to, as a head coach, you

got the game of a parent stuff and, you know, you have your three captains that are picked. They're your captains for the season and I always pick the, you know, one or two guys based on performance or based on something just to be a captain each week. And I'll give credit where credit is due is Chris Long, he came up with the idea. He comes by my little office there at the stadium and he goes, hey, I had a great idea. I go, what's that? He goes, why don't we, I go, shit, man, I wish I had thought about that. Yeah, I'll do that.

Anyway, we sent the six guys out there for the coin toss that we got in the, in the trade. And then the game, we won the game, the game's over and there's no mention of it. And so I actually had to leak it to Ashley. It was Jim Thomas, one of the sports writers in, in St. Louis that we had done it and it came out and then it was all, it became a big deal. But you know, it was all in fun and Daniel and Bruce loved that stuff. But yeah, so, so, but that thing was done, that thing was done. We had two trading partners and it was done in March.

I mean, you know, we were dealing with Mike and Bruce and Mike Shanahan and, and then our other trading partner at that time was Cleveland and we just felt like we had the best deal with Washington and we went ahead and did it, you know, way ahead of time. Now I don't, can't remember off hand when it was, when it was announced, but that thing was done. We had plenty of time, you know, you know, Andy wanted Andrew and Mike and Daniel just love our G three and gosh, we had a product workout. We love them too, but we have Bradford, you know, we had a good quarterback.

Did you, you know, as you get longer into your career as an NFL head coach, are there certain guys that you are more inclined to do trades with? Like if we're looking at the draft board tonight, watching it on TV, we don't know the inner workings. Are there certain teams are like, those guys will link up because they know each other, they trust each other and they've done deals before with each other, or is it just kind of all fair game? You'll pick up the phone from anyone.

Well, it, you know, when the phone, it's answer question, it's, I mean, you do have a relationship over time with people, but yeah, during the draft this weekend, everybody's, everybody's best friend or worst friend, you know, they just, the phone rings and it, Hey, it's someone, Hey, Jeff, this is so and so and so and so. Yeah. How's it going? Good. How you doing?

Good. Good. Boom, boom, boom. Get back with us here. We'll, we'll consider moving and then, you know, they never get back with it. So it's, it's, it's game on. Everybody's calling everybody. I mean, you, if you're trying to get up, all of a sudden something happens and it usually

happens in the later rounds, you know, Hey, the guy, you know, guys are going off the board, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and all of a sudden your board's not looking good. You want to go up to get this guy and now you start, you got to, you got to start calling teams. Six guys in your room making calls at one time, you know, and so, so it's like, Hey, who called the giants? Well, I did. What'd they say?

No. Okay. What about, what about the practice? No. Yeah. What about Miami? Yeah. They're up there.

They'll consider, you know, and now you got, okay, so we got two people that are interested. All right. Get them on the phone kind of thing. You know, it's that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. What about, uh, so you have your group of scouts and this is maybe more of a human nature thing that I always wonder if like human nature, how we interact with each other

leaks into an NFL war room. Is there like, if one guy screws up, maybe a scout has, he loves this guy and he ends up being a bust. And then you guys are in the heated discussion a few years later being like, should we take this guy? Should we not? Did anyone, will anyone like hold it against him? Be like, yeah, but you loved XYZ three years ago and he was a bust, kind of like, negging

each other and going after each other. I mean, yeah, I mean guys can, but you know, understand the hierarchy, you know, you have a general manager, then you have a director of college scouting, a director of player personnel and then you've got your scouts and you've got area scouts and guys that one guy will be in charge of an area and then you'll have other guys across check. And so, you know, you've got a lot of opinions on a player. It's just not one and so, and then there's so much discussion that goes into ranking in the player and everything that, you know, it really is a collaborative effort and it

is a team grade on the player. So, you know, and it is, I mean, as people say, it's, it's an imperfect, hey, you know, I don't know if, if, you know, I don't, you know, without any disrespect, but I don't know if New England drafts any better than anybody else. Right. They might just coach better. Right. Right.

They coach better. Yeah. It's probably a bad example because I'd say they probably, they know, they've probably spent more time and have a different system than most and they're very, very detailed and are going to go get their guys, but the point I'm trying to make is that, you know, you're going to miss. Yeah. It's just, that's just, it just happens, but you know, you can't afford a, a high miss.

Yeah. Yeah. Those are the ones that set you back. Yeah. Is those top picks that don't turn out to be something, especially at the quarterback position, but when you go roll the dice and get somebody high over time, that's, that's, that's a franchise back because you were counting on that guy and that's why big picture guys in the NFL, this is a, just a piece this weekend, but you got to combine nowadays.

You got to combine your draft effort and your players and those that you draft in addition to the post draft, you know, the, the rounds seven through 12, we call them now versus the undrafted free agency, the college free agency immediately after, that's where you get your players. But more importantly, it's, you're building your team through free agency and through the draft as a combination of both and you got to have a good feel. And so, you know, I mean, for example, you know, as a team enters pro-free agency back when the calendar year started, and they're, you know, they, they needed a defensive ending

to pass rusher. And they're looking at the college prospects in the upcoming draft, this is a good year for rushers. Yeah. All right. Well, maybe we'll see what we can do then and we'll just roll the dice here, get one the draft rather than go out and overpay for somebody, you know, that, that may or may not have worked out.

And so it's a combination. When you build your roster, you're going to have to use both markets and the draft is just one of the markets that the league has just happened that we just have a blown, blown off the face of the earth right now from, from a tension standpoint. Coach, every year, it seems like about this time, the week before the draft, a bunch of Wonderlick scores get leaked. Did you put any stock at all in the Wonderlick test? Oh, yeah.

Yeah, you do. But the best way to describe this, it's unfortunate that that stuff gets leaked number one. But number two is the Wonderlick test is, you know, you go, gosh, these guys, the league's been using a Wonderlick test for 40 years. Yeah, you want a big one. But so stock in it, um, you know, I, we have seen over the years, players that had near perfect scores by 30s that could not play football. And then we've had guys with really poor tests that were football geniuses.

So you have to, you know, you use it as a, you know, maybe a trigger or just an indicator. You know what? He's got a low test. He tried it three times. This test is right around single digit, maybe in like 10, 11, we got to do some more research. And guess what? Lo and behold, you know, there may be some, what do you call it, alphabetic or numeric dyslexia involved.

We can read, be sure, sure she can learn football, you just can't read. So it's one of those things where, okay, if the test is low, then let's go find out why the test is low. Right. And, and then if you've got a guy that's going to have a hard time processing football and life and so on and so forth, then you stay, stay away from them. And that brings up another point where, you know, there's teams have different philosophies, whether they, you know, you, you grade players and for whatever reason, if there's an off

the field issue or there's something that the player has done in the past where the club has said to themselves, you know what, we're going to, this is a good player or not. We don't want them on our roster because of our, our organizational philosophy. Then that guy goes on another board or he goes up on your board with a different colored card. And you know, he's there. This is his athletic ability. This is where he's going to go on the draft, but you know what, we're not going to take

him because he's got that color card and we don't want him as part of our program. Right. And so, you know, those are, you know, those are some, just some nuances that, that are involved there, but circling back to the wonder lick. It's really unfair that that stuff gets out, but that is a, it's just a baseline. It's a starting point. There's so much testing that goes on and interviewing that goes on. Clubs have a pretty good idea about the player's ability to learn.

All right. I have one last question for you, coach. It's the seat geek question you put in promo code, take you get $10 off your seat geek purchase. Thank you to seek geek for being a sponsor. Your Twitter game talk us through what's going on right now because it's been electric. You've been all over Twitter. What, when did this, when did this kind of awakening happen?

Well, I'll tell you what, I have, I got my butt drug across the asphalt for two years in social media. Okay. And I just kind of decided that maybe it was time not to get even, but just to get involved. And so it's like anything else, man, if you're going to do something new, you're going to need a little bit of help. You want a little bit of training.

You want someone that knows what they're doing. And so I got involved, um, you know, well, I had my open, I had my Twitter since I was going to climb Kilimanjaro and I opened the Twitter account. The Twitter thing, um, before the climb and I got to Amsterdam cause I was going to report back on my climb and I couldn't get cell service. So I never used it. So I had some followers back in so it was there, but it wasn't active. So I just activated it and, you know, I'm having a blast with it.

Yeah, it's awesome. I mean, the gift thing, man, hey, you know, I'm not going to details, but people know how to do it. Just go down there and yeah, pick your pick, just put your word in and pick the right thing. Yeah, no, don't give away the secret sauce, coach, coach, coach, you're, you're giving a, you're giving away the game to the best cause you guys know that this is me. Some people go, well, no, he's not doing that. Oh yeah.

You know, I am. I took the time, you know, I'm not fighting back, but you know, this is enough with enough. Yeah. Good for you. But just don't overuse the gift. Yeah. No, no, no, no, I think it's an opportunity. You don't want to, you know, you don't want to put anybody down, but it's an opportunity

to just show the motion. Yeah. And I'm happy to, I'm happy to say the listeners want, you know, want some instructions on how to do it. I'm happy to, I was at Whole Foods the other night and this dude comes up and taps me on the shoulder. I got headphones on, you know, kind of my own business, I get some dinner and some food and the guy tests my shoulder, I turn around and he goes, he goes, coach, I love that Twitter

stuff. Whoa. The first time I heard that. It's a cool, yeah. You connect with people and it's a different side of, you know, you're getting in on the conversation. I think you're right on that. Well, that asphalt was pretty hard.

Yup. Yup. Raw asphalt for two meters and it's like, you know what, this isn't right. Yeah. Now we like it. We like it. It's an opportunity to put the truth out there. That's for sure.

Yeah. Speaking of putting the truth out there, we were very, it was a roller coaster of emotions last week for us. There was a report out that you were in line to become the head coach of the Houston XFL franchise. And then you replied to it about two hours later saying, essentially, it's not going to happen. Have you been in talks with the XFL and if so, is that something that has ever even come

up for you? Well, at that time when it was brought, I knew something had come out because I was fishing in Mexico and I just got back into service and my phone came on. And I had waves of texts and messages and the first wave came from a bunch of weight coaches and the next wave came from all offensive line coaches and the next wave came from, and I knew something had happened. And so, yeah, somebody, you know, who let it out, but no, and as I mentioned a week or so ago, I've been contacted by them, but I haven't accepted the job and now I'm just

listening to them right now. It's cool. It's unfortunately for the Alliance, because you guys know I was helping that program along because I'm friends with Charlie and I have great respect for Bill Poli and so I was kind of behind the scenes and I was really disappointed for that to end the way it did because it's all about the players and we're just fortunate that so many players got opportunities to resign with NFL clubs and that's what this is about. It's another opportunity to give players an opportunity to play.

You know, it's an opportunity, it's different, but at this point, no, I'm, you know, I'm talking to them, but I have not accepted the position. Well we need you back in the NFL because I think you're 15 wins away from being top 10 all time in wins. So we need you back in the NFL, hopefully it will happen soon, coach, it was awesome talking to you. Hopefully we'll see you soon. Whether you're in New York or we're in Nashville, but keep doing what you're doing.

I've got some plans to come back to see you guys. Perfect. Yeah. I'm sure it's been fun. Yeah. Can I ask you guys a question? Why aren't you guys down on Broadway in Nashville? You know what it is?

The NFL draft, we've done a couple. We went to Chicago, we went to Philly. It's not the best event to cover if you're not fully credentialed because you know it's kind of a TV network thing and if you don't have, if you're not part of one of the big, the big boys, you kind of sit on the outside. So it's not like the combine or the Super Bowl where you can get a little more access. Yeah, right. Your bar tab is just too high.

Right. You just answered the question. They're not going to send us to Nashville to party for a weekend. Yeah. Exactly. You can get your expensive for, you know, approved. Exactly. All right, coach.

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First up, we have a Saber Metrix. This came from the nerds at Harvard. 38 years of data suggest the quarterback is the most important piece of an NFL franchise. You think? No, doi. Yeah, they did a good study, guys. Food is the most important part of a meal. If you score more points, you'll win.

Yeah, in fact. Score more points than your opponent. This study was commissioned by Magic Johnson. Yeah, oh, speaking of Magic Johnson, I forgot to tell you guys, the NBA, you have everything that you want in the Eastern Conference playoffs. Great coaching, great scores, great offense, great defense and star power. That was Magic Johnson's preview of the Eastern Conference. You know what happened was somebody found out that Ryan Fitzpatrick was a decent NFL

quarterback, and they started watching football for the first four weeks of the season, and they're like, I need to put together a study about this because that guy seems like he's really putting it all together. Yeah, this guy's playing well and the team's doing well. This is, we got to put some, you know what, let's do a 38-year study on this thing. Interesting. It's actually, credit to this guy because he's probably just a person who's too smart for their own interests.

They should be all into books and hobbies and all that stuff, but they really just love football, but they were smart enough to get into Harvard, and they're like, okay, how do I combine what I actually like football and the fact that I'm at Harvard? Okay, I'll just watch football for 38 years and come up with a conclusion that quarterbacks are important. And listen, if you are a student or a professor at MIT, this is a direct shot across the bow at you and your little Sloan Sports Conference. Harvard is coming for that ass.

Yeah. Oh, the three-point shot's important. Yeah. What about quarterbacks? Idiots. I put together this heat map that shows how Dirk Nowitzki's career has progressed. Oh, you should walk more in baseball. Yeah.

How about quarterbacks? Dumbass. Bunting actually doesn't lead to scoring more runs. Well, have you ever fucking thought about the fact that a quarterback makes your team kick ass? Have you ever thought about Daniel Jones revolutionizing? I can't even say it because it's like I was Archie Manning was getting in my throat right there.

Yeah. A phantom ghost. Being like, you were about to say something nice about Archie Manning. Every now Daniel Jones. Nope. Have you ever thought about how this kid that looks like he was in dead post society growing up is going to actually make the New York Giants really fucking sweet? Yeah.

Oh man, this is going to be awesome. Quarterbacks. They revolutionize football. It's a way to go, Harvard. We have a just chill out man for Nick Saban. Nick Saban had hip surgery. Not like, not cool surgery, but he had surgery on his hip. Yes, exactly.

Not hip surgery. It was hip surgery. And he, I think it's usually a couple of weeks probably when you get a replacement hip. No, I think it depends on what kind of surgery it was as somebody who's had surgery more recently than you. Okay. I think I speak from a level of expertise here.

There's certain hip surgeries that you can have where you can actually walk out of the hospital that day. Oh, okay. So Nick Saban took one full day off after his hip surgery and he had this to say, I did some rehab at home on Tuesday and threw away the walker after one day. I've got a cane and I'm rolling now. Saban added that the six hours he was at home on Tuesday with nothing to do was like torture.

I don't know how people do it. So Saban got a cane on the same day that the canes beat the cat. Now it's all making sense. It does make sense. It does make a lot of sense to me. Yeah. Just chill out. Yeah.

It's the off season. Six hours. Six hours Nick Saban didn't do anything and he couldn't bear it. It's the off season, Nick. It's the off season, Nick. You might have a problem, Nick Saban. Also, he went golfing the morning of his hip surgery to get like, I respect that move. It's like if you're going in for heart surgery, you might as well eat a cheeseburger.

Right. You might just die. You might never come back. So you might want to just golf one last time. We'll fix this thing later on this afternoon. Yeah. You might as well just go wreck it. All right.

Before we get to FAQs, we have a, so there was a thread about the wire tapping in the NCAA today. We're reading it pretty long if you want to just. Oh, no, no, no. Let me get to this real quick. So there was discussions of paying for Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson by schools that landed neither of them. Which school got both?

Wait, they got both of them? Both the guys that we're going to get paid somewhere else. Wait, let me read that again. I didn't read it right. Yeah, please. There were discussions of paying for Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson. From Duke? Add those discussions.

By schools that landed neither. No. Or neither if you want to sound like you're a fucking hoity-toity. A school that didn't land either of them. Yeah. Those schools that tried to pay for Zion Williamson and Marvin Bagley, they didn't land them. The schools where Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson's with their people were talking about getting paid.

So essentially Marvin Bagley and Zion Williamson were on the open market to be bought, but all of a sudden no one was able to buy them except for, oh, Duke. I figured it out. Wait, Duke was in the report? No, no, I figured it out. I figured it out, big cat. They were going to get paid from other schools, but they said, you know what, the college degree that we'll earn from Duke is worth more in the long term.

So they decided to go for the diploma. A long term investment as opposed to a quick infusion of cash. Yes. Let that be a lesson to all you youngsters out there. Wow. Good job by Duke to do the right thing here. I mean, I agree. It's a terrible, I read the article.

It's a terrible look for Clemson basketball. I mean, we've talked about this before. It's like they probably had those conversations that probably was in Zion. It was probably like an uncle or aunt or whatever, family member without even their knowledge. And once they realized what was going on and that they would probably get caught if they took money, like it's one thing to have the conversation, but to actually exchange money. Like that becomes the whole thing. Right.

I'm sure you tell Coach K, like coach, like these bad guys are offering me money. What should I do? And he's like, son, like come to Duke. I'll show you the way. I'll protect you. I'll protect you from people that are trying to take you back. So it's honestly Coach K, Coach K like is probably the only good guy left in sports. Yeah.

Yeah. Him and Petino because they actually said that Petino was not aware at all of anything that was going on. He trusted people too much. So yeah. So good company. Yeah. Petino and Coach K.

Yeah. Except for Coach K. All right. Yeah. Until reports. Otherwise. Okay. Let's finish up with some FAQs and Game of Thrones.

If there's 52 weeks in a year and seven days in a week, why is 52 times seven, 364 instead of 365? Where's the extra day? Wait, say it again. D day. The longest day. 52 weeks in a year. Mm hmm.

Seven days in a week. Yeah. Yeah. So 364 instead of 365. The leap day. Mm hmm. That pops up every now and then. Every four years.

Yeah. That evens it out, right? Yeah. Ja Rule's birthday. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

No, that does. Yeah. All right. So 365. So there's a five at the end of that. Mm hmm. So it's five, 10, 15, 20. No, but sometimes they're.

But that's four years. And then you add the one that's 21 divided by seven is three. I'm just fucking. You said a lot of numbers. There's genius math. You said a lot of numbers. And I'm doing the Zach Elfinakis meme right now. Yeah.

That was genius. I'm going to agree with the real ones. No, I'm not a Harvard people. No. Mm hmm. Quarterbacks are good. And I can add five times four. And leap days are the answer to the next question.

So this is kind of a little pre pre-lated FAQ for Monday's interview. It's a good idea though. PFT and Big Cat should both buy donkeys. This way of yellow twins, the Homer and Derby, they can have them slaughtered in each other's asses. Oh, that's fucked up, man. I'm not going to slaughter a donkey. If he doesn't win, Brandon Walker can take care of the two donkeys down in Tepelo.

I'm not going to. No. Tupelo. Listen, I'm not interested in killing a donkey. Nope. That's not how I operate. Plus, Kenny Smith already did the donkey thing for Charles Barkley when Charles Barkley had to kiss his ass.

What about if we just bought some elderly donkeys? And just let them die? Yeah. Didn't feed them. You know what? We didn't kill them. We just didn't keep them alive. Big Cat, because we didn't put a time table on when we had to eat each other's asses.

That's correct. Yeah. That's correct. Seriously, if I'm 80 years old, I'll eat your ass no problem. Yeah. I probably won't have an ass. I just have people asking you when you're going to do it for the next 80 years. Oh, and I'll tell them eventually.

Yeah. Soon. Hey, freak. Why do you want us to eat each other's ass so bad? For the weirdo? Here's the deal. If the first person to die gets smothered by the other person's ass on their deathbed. Done.

And then the other guy eats the corpse's ass. Did you imagine how much that would suck if one of us died in like the next year? It's like, well, you go show up to the funeral home. You're like, can I see that body real quick? I brought some to do something real quick here. Okay. All right. I'll see you.

Yeah. All right. Bye. I think you big cat, did you ever go multi TV game of thrones? You could blow through the series if you watched two episodes at a time. That would be fucking insane. That would be awesome. I did go.

I did go game of thrones, top TV and sports on the bottom too. So I didn't some if I have top TV is the bigger one. Yeah. If I have gaps in my thrones knowledge, it's probably because I was watching and gambling on sports underneath it. That's that's power TV user status right there. Do you think a guy like Neil deGrasse Tyson could put on four episodes

of Game of Thrones at once and tell you what happened in a linear fashion afterwards? Yeah. It's like the speed readers. Guys, you can read books in like 20 minutes. Yeah. The Game of Thrones challenge goes out. Listen to this podcast at two times speed. Oh, yo, people.

But the people who are listening to this at two times speed. You're a fucking weirdo. That that was regular speed. That's even going to be fast. Yeah, that probably will be fast. And you guys are idiots. All right, let's get into it. All right.

You ready? Game of Thrones. Dun dun dun. I don't know what the music is. I was going to let you go as long as you wanted to there. OK, Hank and PFT. Don't patronize me. No, I'm I will patronize you.

There is going to be a big battle on Sunday's episode 90 minutes. By the way, we're going to take the show before and then we're going to just add the Game of Thrones stuff after. OK, that was just us planning the show live on the show. Little people behind the scenes. Holy shit. All right. So there's going to be a big battle.

A lot of people are going to die. I made a list of people that I would be most upset would die and people that I don't give a fuck about. And I'm actually kind of rooting for their death. You guys can comment on it. OK, people that I would most I didn't include Jon Snow, Danny and Sansa, because I just don't think they're going to die. So people I'd be most upset if they died.

One, any of the two dragons remaining. Yep. That would be heartbreak. Isn't there a third one? His buddy. Are you sitting down? I know he's dead, but he's alive, right? Well, dead guys are the bad guys.

He's part of the dead crew. Yeah. But you know, I just don't want to see any dragon die. He joined the Yankees. There are no there's no such thing as a bad dragon. It's like a bad dog. They're all 13 out of 10. The dead dragon kills the other two.

Yeah, that's a bad dragon. It's like a pit bull. Yeah, not good. Not good. So either dragons. Not all pit bulls. It's all we got to get. Oh, you're about to get it.

Hank anti-pit bull stance. Still a quarter pit bull, dude. I know. Hank, dolly. Not all pit bulls. Team pit bull over here. Yeah, Mr. Worldwide. All right.

So any of the dragons die. We're going to be very upset. Tormund, I'll be very upset. That's the big ginger guy who's Jim Harbaugh. Oh, yeah, he's going to die. Yeah. Oh, he's for sure going to die. He's going to die, absolutely.

The other thing to not only consider is that. He's going to choke on a nipple. Maybe. People that are going to be heartbreaking deaths and people that are going to be even more heartbreaking when they get brought back to life and then start fucking up. As the dead people. Tormund is the number one.

Yeah, because he would kill so many people as a dead guy. As a dead guy to dead guy, he's going to kill some people. Follow up question. Do the White Walker zombie people, do they lactate? Because he'll probably lose it. He'll lose his strength if he can't get that breath smoke. Well, then again, their bones are very brittle. You're right.

Like they do crumble pretty quickly. That's what I'm saying. And then they build back up as soon as the Night King does a stupid like, you know, he does a fucking dance. Yeah, I've seen raise his hand. I've seen the gif. Yeah. All right.

He's like a he's like a rude guy sitting at a fucking like looking for the check. Like your check, you know, when you're someone's like, oh, here, waitress, come here, give me the check. Like fucking put your hand down asshole. How come we haven't seen that guy? Because he might be in the crypt. No, so this is this is with Cersei.

We asked for submissions and pretty much this is kind of like fading the public. The most common theory that people sent us like what they think is going to happen is that the Night King is on his way to King's Landing like pulling a little hezzy hay. Hezzy hay. He's going to King's Landing while the rest of the, you know, army the dead fight it out of Winterfell.

He's going to kill everyone at King's Landing, bring them to life and then go to Winterfell the other way. Fuck them all absorb them. But because so many people said that, I hope that's not what happened. That's true. My biggest hope for the episode is like, no one is right with their theories.

I hope they just do something that's like so off script and just turns because people think it's like, OK, they're going to kill the Night King and then it's going to be Cersei and it's going to be like two different like one story ends and then they figure out the throne stuff and then it ends. I hope they just somehow figure out a way to just blend it all and then the last four episodes are just pure chaos.

What if they go right up against each other in like the middle of the field and they're like, ah, we're going to fight. And then they all drop their weapons. Kendall Jenner comes out with a Pepsi and then they're like, problem solved. We all fuck each other. And it's like, hey, you guys thought incest was gross. How about Necrophilia?

And it's just a fucking, the last three episodes is people fucking dead bodies. And even their asses. And they didn't lost a bet to them before. I have a theory about the theories. OK. I think that the Game of Thrones producers have people that they've paid to go on these Reddit forums.

Oh, yeah. And give these theories that make total sense just designed to throw people off the scent. Well, here's what also probably happened is there's probably some people on these forums. I don't even know where they are. Reddit, their forums, their Twitter, whatever. They were probably right with something early on

because they read the book and like idiots like me don't realize that the book gave some of the scripts, right? So they're like, oh, this is going to happen. And they're like, fuck dude, how'd you know? So then they get a little taste of that sweet, sweet. I'm getting upvoted on this forum. It's fucking awesome. Everyone thinks I'm a genius.

So now they got to do their second act. They're on core. They're just making up shit. Yeah, so it's like the Krasenstein brothers are true facts stated on Twitter that got a few things right about the Mueller investigation. And now they're a citizen journalist who fuck everything up. How weird is it when they reply to each other?

Very strange. They definitely kiss. Speaking of incest, they're probably, I think they're Game of Thrones characters. OK, all right. Tormund, really sad. Brianna Tarth, very sad. She dies Sir Knight, Brianna Tarth.

Sir Davos, Hank's favorite, The Onion Knight. Very sad if he dies. I don't think he will. Which one's The Onion Knight? He's got a sweet accent. He's got a beard. He's not really a fighter. He's like, I'm not a fighter.

He was feeding that girl soup last episode. Oh yeah, I remember the soup. And then he saw the girl with the fucking fucked up face and is like, hey, I had a best friend who was 13 years old who had a face like that. Then she got burned alive. She's going to get, and the girl that he gave soup to, she's gone.

She's going to get mercilessly killed. Oh yeah, oh yeah. Arya would bum me out big time. So would Gendry. And then Podrick and Bron will round out the list of, I'll feel bad for like two seconds. People, I don't give a fuck if they die. Bran, I hope that fuck gets skull fucked

in the middle of the field. Because he's so awkward as the guy in the wheelchair. I know, Lieutenant Bran. He's so annoying, yeah, Lieutenant Bran. He's so fucking annoying, he ruins every scene. Yeah, that's a great take. Terrible take. No, I agree with Hank, it's a bad take.

I saw that someone said that Bran's been dead this whole time. Yeah, he's the three-eyed Riven. Yeah, he is, he's, what's his name in six cents? Bruce Willis. Yeah, spoiler. Bran can kick rocks, but the, like my favorite part of Game of Thrones

is like the lore, like the old school flashbacks, like tying all that shit together. So if he dies, all that stuff goes away. I don't care. Theon, that dickless fuck. Has Bran ever fucked? No, he's like 12. He should have been fucked, oh, he's not 12.

Well, he's seen fuck. Yeah, he's seen fuck. Jaime. Someone, speaking of Theon, someone, this is a funny theory. They said Theon's gonna shock the world by revealing he never has a cock, or never lost his cock. Bang Sansa, kill the Night King

and be given the Iron Throne as a result. Oh, that'd be sick. Grey Worm, don't care about him either. Sick of him. He's gonna die. He's just like, dude, you're falling in love with this girl and all you can do is eat her out. That's cool.

That's awesome. You're probably really good at cunnilingus, but I just don't care about this love story. I'm sorry. It can never be consummated, in my mind. Right, and Jorah rounds out that list. If Jorah dies, it's like, dude, you should have, you spent seven seasons being in the friend zone

and then you died fighting for her. Just one time, just be like, hey, you know what? We should get married. Do you think these eunuchs are allegorical for the anti-circumcision movement? It's like, hey, circumcising somebody is analogous to cutting their entire package off. Isn't there a dream or recurring dream

where, oh no, that's your teeth falling out. I was gonna say, my foreskin falling off? Maybe it's something that happened a while ago. For mental health. Like, everyone's losing their dick and it's actually all a big dream. That's interesting too. Yeah, and then Sam will, Tarly,

like, when he dies, it's just gonna be kind of funny. I'll actually probably laugh. And that doesn't mean I don't like him. It's just he's like, oh, sorry, didn't see you there. Oh, I was reading this book, oh. And it's like, he's just gonna die, he's just gonna be like, ooh, I got stabbed. He's the guy that stole all the books.

Yeah, nerd. What about Jamie and Tyrion? No, Jamie, I don't really care if he dies. I mean, I guess it'd be a little emotional. Tyrion's not gonna die, so I don't count. I hope Tyrion dies. In the last episode, he was like, I'm gonna die in Winterfell,

and he said maybe after I die, I can go kill. Like, he foreshadowed that he's gonna go kill Cersei. Who's the guy that slept with the girl that grew up? That's Gendry. Gendry, Gendry's gonna die. He's got King's blood. Gendry's gonna die. Yeah, he probably will.

He's too sympathetic of a character. Yes, yes. He's a nice guy. Pretty much everyone's gonna die on Sunday, and I don't know, there will be a range of emotions. There will be some that I will feel really bad, and there's some I'll laugh. I get really, when I watch very intense things

like what Sunday will be, I kind of laugh at awkward moments. Kind of like when I laughed at you when you thought you were gonna die on the turbulence. Like, I don't know, it's just something I have, so. Cerbrian of Tarth, I think she's dead too. Oh, she's for sure dead. Yeah.

She's gonna be heartbroken. She was so happy when she was knighted. She'd be another one. Her and Tormund, if they come back as fighters, that will be tough. They will kick ass. Because if they kill someone else, like if Cerbrian of Tarth kills Davos.

I got a dumb question. It's gonna be really bad. I got a dumb question about all this. What's the fucking big deal if the Winter Army kills everybody and brings it back to life as a bunch of frozen zombies, and just everyone's a frozen zombie walking around? History's forgotten.

But then everyone's just walking around. Yeah, they might be a little bit cold. It would essentially, okay. But who gives a shit? I'll throw it back at you. They're happy. They're no more wars. PFT, I'll throw it back at you.

I think of the dead army as concussions. Last weekend, you went to Cannabis Cup. Probably nice to go visit there. Would you wanna live at Cannabis Cup? I'm pretty sure if you got high enough, you wouldn't care. Yeah, well, that's exactly what the Army of the Dead is. It's literally Cannabis Cup where they just forget all of history

and walk around being like, whoa. It would just be a giant fish concert. Right. Is that a bad thing? Yeah, the song never ends. Yeah. Oh, one song, bro. I hope that happened.

That's my new prediction. Okay. Everybody just turns into a zombie and they're happy forever. They can't go in water, so you at least have that. Everything else is fine. All right, it's actually, that's the M. Night Shyamalan twist.

It signs. Remember, water kills the aliens? Mm, yep. What if M. Night Shyamalan just pops out? We're ruining all kinds of M. Night Shyamalan movies. Do you know he's like a Die Hard Sixers fan? He's in all the games. Yeah, all the games.

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