Pardon My Take - Coach K Is Done + Stanford Steve/Mark Titus Wing Date At Fat Harry’s In New Orleans

Episode Date: April 4, 2022

Live from New Orleans for Coach K’s funeral. We recap Saturday night’s game and all the craziness from the Superdome. (00:02:47-00:15:05) We then go into the time capsule where we recorded directly after Saturday nights game a little drunk. (00:16:30-00:48:51) Who’s back of the week.(00:48:52-01:03:47) And we finish the show with Stanford Steve and Mark Titus live from Fat Harry’s in New Orleans for our wing date (01:05:09-01:45:48)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have our good friends Mark Titus, Stanford Steve, Wing Date. We recorded live from the Wing place we're at. We also have a very special time capsule for the people. We came back right after Duke UNC finished, very drunk, and we recorded a recap of that game, instant reactions from myself, PFT and Hank, as well as Jake, and then we got a little

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Okay, let's go. Now in the street there is violence and then there's lots of work to be done. No place to hang out or wash in and then I can't blame all on the sun. Oh no, we're gonna rock down to electric revenue and then we'll take it higher. Oh, we're gonna rock down to electric revenue and then we'll take it higher. Welcome to part of my take presented by Cores light today is Monday, April 4th and Coach K is dead. RIP, our sweet prince, Coach K, he died as he lived, a loser.

What are you gonna say? This is like, you're doing this again. Yeah. Time capsule coming up. People are gonna get confused. So we did it for the people because everyone was like, we want your instant reaction. We came back from the, oh, that camera just went down. Oh my God.

There's like a ghost in here. We came back straight from the Superdome to this room. We recorded like 40 minutes. I was very drunk, so I heard that I kept on asking Hank for a recap over and over because I just wanted to just bask in his tears. So it might not make a ton of sense, but I think it's a very good 40 minutes of podcast. No, I think it doesn't make a lot of sense. I think that like, if you can put yourself into our minds and we don't do this a lot.

We don't do a drunk podcast very quickly only for special occasions, usually in New Orleans. But yeah, big cat's right. We did ask Hank several times to weigh in and give us his feelings. But because we were drunk and recorded, I forget what Hank said. So Hank, can you weigh in like, what are your feelings and emotions of after the Duke loss? Hank is, by the way, a special type of struggling.

I looked at him in the eyes, even just like an hour ago. The guy, he doesn't lose. He doesn't. He's a winner. Hank is a winner. His personality type is when like, I know that when I lose, I just like go into just self deprecation and just like, you know, feel bad for myself and kind of soak around and try to make a big bet to make myself feel better.

Hank doesn't have any of these coping mechanisms. No, he does not know how to do it tonight. He's not used to it. He's he's cheered for successful franchises. And I think that honestly, Duke as a university let down their most prestigious alum in Hank Lockwood. They don't deserve to have Henry Lockwood as an alumni. If I were you, Hank, I'd burn my diploma.

I might have to find it first. Honestly. Yeah. Honestly, waking up today was much worse. It's one of those things that that's the legacy is just getting worse. I know how these things go. I know how these things go. I know how like every single calm, like I know big hat.

I know PFT. I know how much joy this brings them. I know how often I get brought up and I'm just thinking about every time Duke gets brought up going forward, like it's just going to be brutal. And the fact that it's like new coach next year is going to be a first year coach. He's always going to be compared against who Davis who's like first year coaches never win anything. So you can't expect.

Right. Going to the final four be one of the all time coaches like no matter how good Shire does, it's just like it's it's bad. I want to push back on something and the 50 50 thing is brutal. I think you I think you think you know how happy I am, but I'm happier than that. Yeah. Like I am way happier than that. Like you think I'm at like a 10.

I'm at a billion happiness. I do want to walk back to something that we've been saying though. I and I just said a second ago, he's a loser calling coach K loser. Legacy completely. But I was not aware of this and I went back this morning. I watched all of coach K's press conference from last night. Oh, it's great. And I watched the final 10 minutes of the game again, just so I could do a mental reset.

And I didn't realize this, but coach K was hopefully telling the reporters after the game. This team is actually they accomplished something very rare in college basketball. They're double champions. Oh, they were. They were double champions this year. And I was trying to think what the hell is coach K talking about? Wait, can I take a guess? Yeah.

Regional and ACC. He's counting their regular season ACC championship and the original and winning the West region. Yeah. So they are Western region champions. Is this before after he threw Mark Williams completely under the bus, back the bus over yes, then back to back over his body. That's the other note that I thought I'm getting out on the street because he kept saying in his press conferences like you can't you can't take one player and one play and make

that mean the entire game. Like you might say you got to hit your free throws, but you can't say that because there are other times in the game where we could have made up for it and stops. We could have gone. So just because a guy maybe misses some free throws, you can't say it's his fault in Mark Williams. And he kept bringing it up over and over and over again. So also they did win the I think they won the Continental Tire Championship, which is

like a weekend where they invited Campbell and or something to their house and then beat the shit out of them. Yeah. So the triple champions, triple crown for triple champs. By the way, we should for, for, for Jake, uh, let's do, let's do Marsh madness real quick. Because we did talk a lot about Duke in our time capsule. So we got to talk a little bit about Nova in Kansas. Uh, it is brought to you by our friends at visible saved today by switching to visible

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We're probably going to do more of it with Stanford Steve noted Duke fan. So it's going to be a Duke heavy podcast. So let's at least give some shine to Kansas for what they did against Villanova. Jake, your view from the big J press row. Yeah. It was phenomenal. I do want to do one more little piece. Oh, please.

Anything you want. No. Anything you want. Jake, you have the floor. So on Friday show, you said closest prediction was picking the winner and they would be right. I said Duke as an attempt for reverse jinx. I don't think that's what you're doing. Not at all.

Nope. Apology not accepted. Are you kidding me? No. Why would I want Duke to win? Jake, you, Jake, coach K is in a grave. He's six feet under. I wish you were sitting next to him.

I wish you were lying next to him. I don't, I don't agree with that. I don't, I don't, I don't wish you were dead, Jake. I just was named. You just, yeah. Maybe just like, maybe your hand fellow, maybe leprosy. I have said some very bad things about Duke. Yeah.

No, that's true. All right. I got a problem because I, I basically spent all of March, uh, getting my hate up, not my weight up, but also my weight is very, very high right now. Um, so I've noticed that I need to like, after this trip, I'll, I'll stop having like, I'm very quick to be like, no, fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, because the coach K hate has been all encompassing in my brain. So apology half accepted.

Okay. Great. So how was the view though? Oh, do you think Palo Banchero should have been more aggressive in the second half? Yeah. I mean, oh yeah. Sorry, we're not doing, my bad, Kansas Nova, Kansas was incredible. Yeah.

No. Kansas is unbelievable. Everyone's talking about how they made 13 threes, but they're inside game offensively. McCormack got whatever he wanted. He, when they do this, it's hype. It is. It is. It is like mad hype.

It is. That's lit. Um, so yeah. What's up? He had 25 points, one of the dunks of the tournament. Uh, they just literally got whatever they wanted to on both sides. As crazy as it sounds, like I actually don't, I didn't walk away from that game being like Nova got embarrassed.

It was just Kansas played their A plus game. And sometimes when you lose one of your starters and then you go and play against a team that has their A plus game, there's literally nothing you could do. There was nothing you could do. And the entire week I was overthinking the hell out of it. I was going back and forth, back and forth and who was going to bet on. I eventually bet on Villanova because I'm an absolute turkey and an idiot and a moron. But it was like Obama looking at it.

Like I even said to myself, this is a don't overthink it game. Stop overthinking it. And then I made the obvious overthinking choice and bet on Villanova. They just didn't have enough guys. Like it turns out that they are only actually five deep. They have a starting five and just, I don't know what Jay Wright did recruiting or how he's developing the rest of that team, but they are just really, really bad outside of those five guys.

And, and they just hit, Kansas hit every shot. Like even Nova cut it to six and with, I don't know, maybe like, well, is it like six minutes left? You're like, Oh, maybe Nova's got a little something up their sleeve. And they're like, Nope, Kansas is just going to keep shooting the lights out. They were, they had definitely been the forgotten story of the final four. And now they get all the shine on Monday night against UNC, but it definitely felt like, you know, like, Oh, I mean, I don't even think Kansas fans were mad about that because it's

clear Duke UNC was everything everyone was talking about. I think they're just happy to be like, Hey, we, no one's paying attention. Yes. We're just going to go win a title. We're going to the radar all the way to the national championship game. And I think that I think Kansas is actually going to win. I'm going to bet on Kansas in the night because I do feel like the UNC Duke game was UNC's national team.

It was bigger than a national championship for UNC. This is like a state, like an all time crowning of the best college team in the state game. It's like an all time championship. It doesn't matter for this year. So I feel like it was so much emotion that got spent in that game. It's like, Okay, yeah, no one's ever going to remember that Kansas won this national championship as much as they're going to remember that coach Kay went out like a sad sack of shit, melting into a tiny little sad puddle.

But it wasn't about him. Coach Kay said that afterwards. He said it was always about the players and he did request a photo shopping to the sunset when he and his wife. Can you get that done for him, Hank? He said that to the media. Yo, she looked good last night. That's on God.

Coach Kay fucks like a stallion. Yeah. You know that we've established that. I don't think she was. I don't think she wears underwear. Also, there was a really weird. I mean, I was just. I can't help it.

Double bonking. There was a moment where she was like before the game, there was a clip. It was so awkward. She was like going and greeting all the students like she was the queen or something. Yeah. It was like, what is going on? All the students were high fiving her. That's the one thing that I can say that I respect about coach Kay is he picks a fine

woman. Yes. Dime pieces only. Smoke shows only in the K household. Oh, I'm looking at the list. Oh, yeah. Recent entry was PFT says he wants to get slapped by a girl in New Orleans. How's that?

How's that going? I don't. I don't think I got slapped yet, but I did run into like a relative of the last girl that slapped me in a bar here. Oh, and yeah. So there's that. There you go. I will say this.

We have to tip our caps to Michael Savarino for winning the GPA award. Yeah. We got honored at one of the media timeouts. Was he sober enough to accept it? There was people. There was kids. This is now we're not going to talk about it too much more. Um, there are actual no, but there's the next hour and a half is still.

There are actual Pete fans in the stands, Duke fans wearing Michael Savarino jerseys. What is that? That's that's what I kind of want to get one. I could see myself wearing like a coach Kay's grandson jersey. Ironically. Now I want one. Oh my God. Yeah.

Kansas was incredible. Superdome's awesome. I mean, like the whole night, it's it's New Orleans. We've said it before, but like New Orleans, Indianapolis, and I don't know, Vegas are like the best three places to hold events. It's just everything works perfectly. You don't have to get in a cab. You can just walk everywhere.

My favorite part about, uh, like when people talk about how like in a whimsical fashion, how magical the city of New Orleans is, they're like, you know, there's just like some magic in the air. You can't really describe what it is. No, it's just everybody is drunk. All the time. That's what the magic of New Orleans is that's in the air. Just everyone is drunk from the time they wake up until the time they go to bed at.

Yes, everyone, everyone is drunk, having a good time. And it was a great time. It was a great night. OK, let's let's go to the time cap so you can hear us the magical night right after we finished the game. We walked right back and recorded. It is brought to you by our friends at Owens Craft Mixers. Owens Craft Mixers gives anybody the ability to make a high quality cocktail right at home.

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OwensMixers.com. All right, here is the time capsule from Saturday night. Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today. Saturday, April 2nd, 1120 p.m. In the city of New Orleans and coach Mike Shyshevsky is dead. All right, Pete, coach dead. You had a hell of a run. No one can take that away from you, but you're dead.

So you're not listening to this right now. I want to take the high road, if I could. Unlike Duke who didn't shake hands. Unlike Coach K's grandson, who would take the drunk road. Yeah. Oh, he won an award, though. That wasn't rigged. So I want to take the high road for a brief second and just say that tonight's basketball game was an incredible game.

All right, we were lucky to see it in person. Instant classic. It was an all time game. We're going to see it probably forever. Ever. I would actually imagine that this will be the most replayed game of coach Mike Shyshevsky's career. It might bring back ESPN Classic as a TV station just to play this.

It was a great game. It was it was fantastic. It was, you know, it was two heavy weights. They're separated by less than 10 miles in North Carolina. Tobacco road. Wait, but they've met before. They've never played in the NCAA tournament. It was so big.

I don't know if you remember this, but a few weeks ago, Coach K's final night at Cameron Indoor Stadium, he played against UNC. Yeah, I do remember. And they they shlacked him. Yeah, I do remember. That was bad. And then and then tonight, UNC beat Duke again.

He screamed to the kids. He screamed at the kids. It was listen, it was a great game to watch. Credit to UNC. They were all over the offensive boards all night long. They seemed to want it a little bit more. Coach K tried to work his magic with refs. Didn't work.

The better team tonight won. I think we can all say that. But we can also say that. Oh, yeah. We're going to we're going to miss. We're going to miss coach K. He is he's dead. He's deceased.

His legacy is tarnished forever. It can't get worse than what happened. Well, and you're right, you're right. It's over. It's it's hard work pays off and dreams come true. Everyone who worked their ass off to make this possible, most notably the UNC basketball team, but everyone else who hates Duke and we gave them a voice, it happened.

We the the witch is dead. Ding dong, the witch is dead. I want to give you personally, big cat, a gold medal. Thank you. I appreciate it. And the Hater Olympics. I you are you are the goat hater right now. Tonight is your night to celebrate.

I also do think, though, that tonight is Roy Williams night to celebrate. Oh, walking away at the right time, naming a worthy successor. Instead of taking a year where he had to have everybody go around and deep throat is cocked and make love to him every single night. He did not do that. I he picked a good coach to take over for him. And guess what? I actually think that tonight's victory over Duke is the final feather

in the cap for Roy Williams being a better head coach in the state of North Carolina than Mike Shashevsky was in the last 20 years. And it's the Roy Williams final because it's Kansas first UNC. So I had two thoughts and we have Hank here. We're going to get to him in a second. I had two thoughts that are crazy thoughts, but both like I actually gave some like, oh, this could happen. One was this morning when I woke up, I've been living in so much Duke and Coach

K hate, it's been consuming me for basically the entire month. And I thought to myself, do you think if I started a serial type podcast and I did enough investigative journalism, I could make I could get Coach K in imprisoned for life. And I was like, that could actually happen. And then my second thought was there's like a two percent chance that UNC puts a statue up of me in Chapel Hill. I'm not going to rule it out.

I think, you know, I'm not going to be a total narcissist and say it's like definitely going to happen. But let's just say if I got a phone call in the next year and they're like, hey, thank you for your service. Because like I I did like six tours in the last week. I'm like, hey, yes, I'm like, OK, handing out. I was I was getting in a fight with a Duke fan on the way out. He was he was going he was going act like you've been here, show some class.

And I was just doing the crying face to him. And I was like, oh, your team lost. And it was it was the childish. Oh, hey, wait, wait, wait, Hank, Hank, we'll get to the second. Hank, we'll get to the second. Can I just say my guy, Henry Lockwood. And I've been with him for many, many years and many ups and downs. This guy, Hank, he knows ball because in the first half in the first half,

he turned to me and he said, I love Caleb Love. He's awesome. OK, I'm going to say something nice about Hank. You know, you know, because I don't think Hank gets enough credit. If you go back, you look at the tape from 2015. It was Wisconsin Duke. Yeah, Hank kind of swallowed his Duke pride. Yeah, and he lost.

He was a different time. He defeated you graciously. Yeah, in that moment. I just want to give Hank credit for doing that, for doing all the right things. But at the same time, I also do want to laugh in every Duke fans face. There was there was this one Duke fan that was sitting the row in front of us tonight. And he flipped out after the loss was over. And he tried to fight a UNC fan that was a row behind us.

It was the saddest fight that I've ever seen. He he like halfway punched the guy in the stomach, not even like a full punch. And then like halfway, like kind of hit him like in the leg and then got up in his face and was like, I will fight you if you want to fight. I will fight you. And he was trying to fight him, but he knew because he's probably a lawyer that he could not throw the first real punch that could be construed as battery. It was great to see the Duke fans lose tonight.

Although I do want to say like it was it was an all time game. Yeah, I mean, that was let's I mean, it was an all time game. We can all agree that sports are great. And it made it even better that Coach K went out in his legacies, completely ruined and Duke players didn't shake hands. And this is what I'll remember about. Yeah. And yo, listen, everything he's done in his entire career has been wiped away. No, there's nothing left.

You want to talk about the all time jokes. I think tonight was an all time joke. Can I tell you something else that I might think I was so fucking scared? The whole game didn't say a word. It was quiet as a fucking mouse. And I might do in a in a great plot twist. If we're like going season two of this, I might season to watch. I might root for I might root for John Shire to become a better coach than Coach K.

I might root for John Shire to have like I might root for him to have six titles and to beat UNC in the tournament and like everything to be like John Shire is 10 in like never has moments like the Pete Godet never has like these terrible moments of Coach K just being a fucking asshole. It was just great. I think there's. Oh, wait, sorry. Wait, hold on. North Carolina has one up do for eternity. And there is nothing.

Eternity, John Ross. He just walked in. That was a capital E that he put on it. He put some stank on eternity, too. Sorry, my phone was just playing videos, my bad. I think that there's a good chance, though, that I don't know what you're saying, but it would be nice to have Shire take over and take the program to an elite level.

I won't be really. I want I want Duke and Duke fans to achieve the greatness that they deserve. And I think that John Shire is the guy that can get them to that point. But I also think that there's a good chance that if they falter off the stretch, you might not have seen the last coach. Yeah, he might come back. Well, Roy Williams might have to go to Duke and save the program. That would be nice.

So let's let's hear from Hank. Let me just set the stage on the walk out. Hank was just he kept on mumbling to himself. This couldn't be worse. This couldn't have gone worse. He would like literally he would start wandering away from me and I'd get back close to him. And I just hear him being like, that couldn't have gone worse.

That couldn't have gone worse. And now we've been sitting here getting ready to record. And Hank gave me a look like. And I know you've seen this look, PFT, where he like, he looked me dead in the eyes and it was just like, I'm going to say some mean shit to you, like some shit that will like hurt your soul. He's going to start playing Katz cradle in my face again. But let's don't do that.

Yeah, you're going to do that. No, I mean, like, you know, maybe you could take a lesson from Coach K, you know, the hair that's getting gray. What a song. A lot of pictures and videos. All right. No, I'm not just saying I was reviewing some of the tape from tonight. It's like, whoa, who's this silver fox? By the way, we did have the conversation before this game. What would it be to my legacy if Coach K ended up winning the national championship?

Good thing we don't have to answer that. My legacy has never been higher. People will. This will be the first line in my obituary. I killed Coach K. I did. Yeah. Oh, that war hero. I killed him. Pretty much war hero. Sometimes the haters win.

Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, no. But this is like a rare time when the haters are the correct side of history. Yes, this is like if Ross Perot was president. But this is like, there's there's there's losses that are bad and there's losses that the ripple effect. And it's like, trust me, I fucking know Big Cat. Oh, yeah, he kept on saying that. He goes every time he's going to have this over my head forever.

And then as you would say that, another UNC fan would come up and be like, can we get a picture? And they'd be like, we did it. And I'm like, we did it. So Hank, like, you know, ball, dude, you said you're like, my eyes are on Kale I bet heavily on him against UCLA. Caleb Presley, one of our good friends, one of my good friends, I was texting him a lot about Caleb Love during the UCLA game. I was like, I love love. I bet on I bet on him against Baylor.

Love, love, great player. I was, you know, and it was casual in the first half. We were like, just talking, just going back and forth. I was like, Caleb Love, great player. I put it in the back of my head. I was like, Hank is probably one of the smartest basketball minds I've ever been around. And he was like, watch out for Caleb Love.

This guy's got big shot potential. Well, he just doesn't he has no he doesn't give a fuck. That's what I respect about him. He doesn't the moment wasn't too big for him because he isn't care. He just wants to fucking shoot no matter what what the circumstances are. He made it. Mark Williams. There was some there was some not a do talking about the questionable foul calls. Yes. Mark and I will say, I will say, I will say there was some

questionable foul calls. But the real reason they lost was the Mark Williams shooting, missing those two free throws. Basically turned the game where I was like, they were going from a one possession game to like a four point game where it's like, you got to play the foul game. You make those two free throws. Caleb Love, seventy five, seventy four. The balls on him to hit that shot. And Bacot with playing on like half a leg.

Oh, dude, the guy's the guy's on this guy. I'd be surprised if that was once again. If you are a walk again. If you if you have a fucking injury time now where like they call a wheelchair and an ambulance on the court, you should have to stick out for more than five seconds because he was back in the game. He they call they call the ambulance. And then he walked back in the game one minute later.

Hank, shut up. Do you think that coach K burning all his timeouts to complain to refs and work the rest was a mismanagement of the game when you got to the end and he had no timeouts. UNC had three timeouts, Duke had zero. That feels like a big mistake by coach K. Yeah, I mean, it's hindsight is twenty twenty. But I don't know. I said, actually, that's having having time out.

True, because I said that actually having in front of us said, UNC doesn't have any timeouts. I said, sir, you are wrong. UNC has three. Duke has zero. There were actually a few moments where I stood up and I told Marty and Rico, take a timeout. Yeah. You need to take a timeout and show timeout. They didn't have because he used it for the rest used it to the rest.

Also, I think it maybe set a bad tone for his team that he was sitting on his little mushroom toadstool. He couldn't get up on the sidelines. He couldn't even what like, how are you going to expect your players to give their all when you can't even stand up on the sidelines? You've got you've got your prescription stool on the sidelines that you're sitting on and just screaming at the refs. You know, ball, Hank, I gave you credit.

You know, ball. He said, Caleb Love, keep your eyes on him. He's probably going to hit a big shot that will end coach K's life and career. You said that to me now that all that being said, I'm probably going to have been on Kansas in the championship. This was you. I've been thinking about this. This was UNC's title game. Yeah, no. And listen, every time the Duke tries, Duke fans try to talk. UNC fans can just fucking slap this game right on the table forever and ever and ever.

Yep. For all your coach literally lost his last game of his career to your arch rival in the final four on his on his coaching tombstone. It will say like he's going back. I'm saying this right now, six or whenever he started coaching 1980, I think I will call my dash and then the end date will be UNC killed. He's going back. You know what? The best part is PFT as someone who's, you know, I like ball. I don't know ball like Hank. No, you're a ball head.

I'm a ball head. Ball is life. One of my favorite parts about this game and like this rivalry is it was always for the longest time. Todd Duke has. Oh, actually at his time. That's true that that when I saw that stat that he was 50 and 49 against UNC, how could you ever think that he was going to lose our game? But a winning record. Yeah, not a winning record. The but the best part is like forever in the 90s and early 2000s,

it's always was like Duke has like UNC has a better players. Duke has the better team like Duke plays better as a team. Now Duke has all the talent. UNC just plays better as a team. It's beautiful how it all just kind of free coaching job. He got drunk on the one and done age and he and it all fell apart. Yeah, I needed a guy like Brady Manic, who's like 35 years old. I think they didn't have it.

They needed to give Bates Jones a few more minutes. And Bates Jones. Bates was MIA. Oh, it's nice. Bates Jones. I do want to kick it over to Marty, who's been sitting here. Oh, hey, Marty. This entire time with this exact look on his face. Marty sat two rows away from me, two seats away from me for the entire night.

We were we're going at it. It was a hell of a game, though, right? Marty, you can admit that. Yeah. That was the meanest 15 minutes of my life. I don't think it could have been so much meaner. I actually probably my best material is probably used at Hank's expense on the walk home. I was just unloading the clip. You just put so much effort into it to kill you, to kill everyone.

I'm not. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I killed your coach. You did. There's a. There's a wanted poster in fucking in Durham right now. It's my face because I killed your coach. You're going to come back. I actually wouldn't want what happens when he comes back. Listen, I wouldn't be shocked.

This is another. Oh, he's coming back. He's my third craziest thing that I'm going to say, along with the I could probably get him in prison and I might have a statue at Chapel Hill. I wouldn't be shocked if like the authorities knock on my hotel room door tomorrow morning and they're like, you're you're under arrest for killing a man. They're like, who? I'm going to coach Mike Shashevsky. It's just I'll call him right on you. I hope you go to jail.

Yeah, I would love to go to jail for that scumbag. I just think there's not a jury in the world that would convict you. I would just hand him my little card that I've just been passing out. Not a jury. No. Oh, he was justified. No, you go. You'd be bad in jail. That card. It would be like, please. It'd be like Hulk Hogan versus Gawker all over again. People would take Big Cat's side. Yep.

There's just no reason like there's so many other things you could like this much, like there's so many apples in the world and I could just wake up to that and be happy. And this is stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid. I don't like any of you. You guys are all stupid. You're stupid. You're stupid too. Marty, Marty, I asked your question, Marty, real quick. What?

Did you take the Can't Lose Parley? Because I'm sorry about that. I didn't know when it comes down to it. I'm not mentally ready for it. Let's do that, Ben. I bet you did. You did fake parlays. I said it was my last gun on the bullet and it worked.

And I did. Worked and it killed people as soon as Kansas won. I was like, yep, we're good. I did good for so long and then you got me in the last game. Can't lose parlay. Marty, do you think that Duke's lost today and we're specifically coach K's lost today? Death. Death PFT.

His death today, it impacts you as a human being. Do you feel like your entire life has been a fraud by staking your entire sports fandom on somebody that turned out to not be able to get it done? Can I tell you something? I'm done. Because if they win next year, it doesn't matter. Oh, no, I hope they do.

So you're more of a coach K-Fan than you are a Duke fan. Yeah. Honestly, Marty, that's sad. Yeah, that's very sad. You're the worst human being alive. I would understand. If you were a Duke fan, but you're just a fan of a man. Oh, yeah, I'm a terrible man at that.

It's like guys that are diehard fans of golfers or race car drivers, it's like, I just do what I just really like Phil Mickelson. Danny Ricardo. I jerk him off from his death bed. I would do anything for that guy. You're a fucking jelly guy. Oh, hey, starting to lash out.

Here it comes, all right, Hank, let's go back to you real quick. Marty's too depressed. It's not fun when he's like, he won't even put his hands up. Danny Woodhead? He's depressed. Excuse me? That's a guy. Listen, Marty, I'm on your side now.

I want John Shire to win 10 championships. He's gone. We're going to win next year. That's what you're going to have. Great. John Shire's a hell of a coach. He's better coach than Coach K. If you come to Duke side, that's fine.

Fine by me. I'm coming to Duke side. I'm giving you guys a little lesson. Because you know I control destiny. Hey, hey, can I say something? I'm God. Can I say something serious about Duke's basketball team? Everything goes right.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, Marty. I want to say something serious about Duke's basketball team this year. The talent that they had on this team was incredible. Like, you should not hang your head. They were great players. You had Bankero, probably the best player in the country. You had Roach.

You had the playing at the top of his game. You had Kiehl's, who is one of my favorite players in college basketball. You've got a great starting five, two or three. Oh, here we go. I'm trying to pay you a compliment. They had a great team this year. Great team.

Yeah, final four. That was the top four. They probably should have won the championship. They were so good. Where was Palo, by the way? But they didn't have the coaching. I'd love to ask that question. Because he had maybe the quietest 19-21 points.

Like, every time they needed, oh, hey, Jake, every time they needed a big bucket at the end, he wasn't there. I can't with Jake. Shout out to Jake, by the way. Jake texted the group text right before Tim. And he goes, oh, my god, I can't believe it. And we all were like, oh, shit. I can't believe this isn't happening.

Oh, he's putting out the handshake. He's not shaking hands. Hey, Jake, I'll shake your hands. Unlike Duke, I'll shake your hand. Oh, Hank. So right before we start the game started, he goes, I can't believe this is happening. And I thought he got kicked out of Press Road

because he was looking at porn, because he was. I thought he was. He was looking at browsers the whole time. He has a subscription. I thought that there was something weird going on because it sounded like he was in a panic mode. Yeah, right. And it was in between the games.

And there was nothing going on at the time. And he goes, I can't believe this is happening right now. We all replied like, what? And he goes, Duke UNC in the final four. It was like, so Jake, so goddamn Jake. How was the porn? It was awesome. Oh, shit.

Hold on. We don't have you. We don't have the mic for Jake. Marty. Yes, say it again. It was awesome. But the Wi-Fi kind of interrupted my half time plan. Yeah.

Now, now, Jake, you were. We're this is junk podcasting and it's finest, by the way. Bubba has Bubba's been out. We've all been out. We've all been drinking all day. Take Marty's. Marty's too sad anyway. I actually wouldn't be shocked if we just

don't record any of this. This is probably never going to see the light of day. I honestly don't care. Yeah, no, it's awesome. Jake, you saw Coach K afterwards. Yes. What did he say at the podium? I saw the quote from Paolo that he was like,

Coach K never made it about himself. I can't even say it without laughing. He wouldn't really answer many questions based off his career as more just this season. Oh, because it wasn't about him. Right, right. Just about recapping this group of players. Was he like, I shouldn't use all those timeouts

complaining to the refs? No, I didn't say that. He was just very, he was reflecting a lot. He was cracking jokes a little bit at the end. Oh, that's good. He's in good spirits. At the end when he walked, so I got the video of him him and his wife on the golf cart.

She's a smoke by the way. Mickey, yeah. Escorted out. Put it on the list. And he waves, he's like, someone's got to photoshop. We should make a show of the day into this ride and everyone laughs. Oh, no.

So yeah, he's keeping it light. I think he's more just reflecting. The players were definitely more dejected than him. Jake, did you have a question in the chamber ready to ask him? I did. I had my hand raised. What was it going to be about Pete Gaudet? No, it was going to be something totally appropriate.

Oh, OK. Pete Gaudet's pretty appropriate. The guy got fucking shipped to Siberia. Oh, Marty, go back to Marty real quick. Marty wouldn't shake my hand. Yeah, Marty wouldn't shake my hand. Not surprising. Not surprising.

Yeah. Terrible sportsmanship. Can't lose with class. But that's what it's all about. Marty Mush has finest. I actually do think that they were out coaching the second half a little bit. They didn't change anything up defensively.

They didn't try going to that zone, Marty. You have to be a little bit disappointed in the coaching of this game. It was bad coaching, Marty. Really bad. It was bad coaching. It was bad coaching, Marty. Marty, it was bad coaching.

I don't know what's worse. But, hey, let's go back to you. Big K, Big K, you want to get Rico on? I don't ever want to. Yeah, Rico, come over here. Come on, Marty. You get out of here. You're dead corpse.

You're dead corpse. You're dead corpse, Marty. Get out of here. All right, so here comes Rico. I will say I had one pick today, and it was Paolo over 17 and a half points. Good, and it would have been nice if he had scored some important points instead of just,

yeah, he just scored points in the first half when it didn't matter. All right, so here's Rico Bosco. If you're not familiar with Rico Bosco, he's the biggest duke in the world. Hold on, hold on, hold on. Big K did not say a fucking word for the entire game. I was very nervous.

He was quiet as a fucking mouse. I was very nervous. Well, he's about results. Exploded. Yeah, it's exploded. He's not talking trash before the game. He's waiting for the results. It was a legacy game for me, Hank.

I've had a lot of... There was a nice group of ladies behind us that were duke fans, that were young duke fans, girls. Not even bonk. He's actually lying, because he was so annoying. He said five sentences for women. He's lying. I was like, zero to two, and North Carolina scored,

and Big Cat turned around and started fucking cutting their necks off and giving them the throat slaps. Two minutes in, yeah. I did the throat slaps. All right, so we have Rico Bosco joining us. Rico, if you're not familiar with Rico, first of all, you should be... Everyone knows Rico.

Second of all, he's the biggest duke fan in the world. He was calling out the sets. He was calling picks from... We were up in the nosebleeds, and Rico was calling picks out, letting the guys know and screaming in the nosebleeds. Yeah, you weren't that bad, I'm serious. That's the end tonight.

Oh, Rico was blocking people who said they'd get bad seats. So, Rico, you realize that something happens every time you take a picture of any... People are saying I had bad seats. Yeah, people don't realize that a football field in a basketball court, different sizes. Right, so, Rico... I want to thank Game Time for the terrific seats.

Here you go. Oh, my colleagues at the basketball school for allowing me to go to the game, first of all. Right. You get what you get. You don't get upset. This is your first Final Four game ever? Ever.

What a dream. Then it was a nightmare. Rico, scale one to ten, how disappointed are you in the end of Coach K's career? How tarnished do you think his legacy is? Yeah, I was talking to Marty, it's, like, difficult, because he had his hopes up the whole season. I got my hopes up for tonight

after knowing what I had seen and got my heart ripped out again. Like, I was, you watched. I was a... I did. Your heart ripped out. I was a seven-year-old. You're dead, yeah.

I didn't want to get it to this moment because it would have hurt Justice Band. You're usually very mature. Rico. Yeah, it would hurt Justice Band. Rico, do you think they should put a statue of me in Chapel Hill? I think it's possible.

Yeah. I might get the same one. I love you, Hank. I fucking love you, dude. Hank also just spilled a whole drink on his lap before we started recording. My phone, mine, that, my phone's not working. Yeah, I mean...

I don't know why that happened so hard. He was not as sharp as he has been in the past couple of years. Yeah, you think it's like, mine's deteriorating a little bit? I don't want to say that. You don't, that's... You don't joke about that. I'm not joking.

Quite, you said it. You pointed out. What should we do? You literally said it a second ago. No. Yeah, I just couldn't get the stops. They couldn't get the stops that they needed. I talked about it all year with the defensive efficiency

in the last couple of months. They were kind of playing with house money with... Sorry. Sorry, sorry about defensive efficiency. They couldn't get stopped. Okay, that act... They couldn't get stops. That's what turned out to be the game.

They had a shitty first half and they still get up 81 points. I got you, I'm bringing you back. A lot of easy buckets. I was talking about Ken Popp when we were burying Coach K. Lot of easy buckets. Couldn't play that. That's what it came down to.

Grigo, what about those timeouts that I told you should be taken? You said it. I did, I did. I said it. You denied it in the moment. To be fair, roasting him right now when you say a 10 minute and like we've been recording for like 45 minutes, right? And you're like, what are you talking about?

I did tell Bob, I was like, don't worry about it. We're going to record for 10 minutes. The best version. We also got texts. We also got texts. Hank and I were apart from Bubba and Memes and PFT. There was a text in the middle of the two games of PFT taking a little snooze.

And then like 10 minutes later, PFT texted of Liam taking a fucking snooze. So there were some snoozes going on. No, I mean, I had to recharge the batteries that first. We should also say congratulations to Kansas. Well, we are to recap. This is a time capsule.

But but I had to take like I had to recharge the batteries in between the games for a little bit. So sue me. I fell asleep at my seat for about 10 minutes. No, it's nothing wrong. It was just funny the back to back because it was like the guy who took the picture, you sleeping, then fell asleep. Yeah.

No, it was actually a beautiful night of basketball. Anybody out there that's a basketball fan, anyone that's a. Yeah, make yourself feel better, buddy. Yeah, Hank. Hit that. Hit that. Hit that, pal. It was a great night for everybody that loves the sport.

I think it's just a great night for sports, right? Rico, let's get it up for basketball, guys. Yeah, basketball one tonight and also UNC and Coach K. Lost. So Rico, it's it's over, though. His his legacy is gone. Yeah, we had an awkward moment where Hank, I'm a big ticket stop guy and Hank was like,

I can't believe you saved that. And I did equate it to you get a prayer card when you leave a funeral. Wait, yeah, there it is. Great point. Wait, you had to take it over. No, I didn't get a ticket. You want me to I just because I had your ticket.

I just burped some smoke up because Rico, I had your ticket. I can send you a screenshot of the fucking court. You can have a stub. You are going to come over. It was in my ball sack. It would have been one thing too. If you lost to Roy Williams, he loses to a first year coach. Oh, man, as a first year coach ever.

Yeah. The first year coach is actually while Steve Fisher won six games, but he didn't win the championship, right? No, he did. He didn't get many. He took over. That's the famous Michigan man. Be a man, be a man.

Yeah, Ramil Robinson, they beat him. Yeah, Hank, I mean, you've been kind of what do you think about the game? It was a bad game. The the girls behind us where we're great. They were in your year. You keep talking about these girls. Why do you keep talking about these ladies behind you? The girls behind us were saying, they were.

She's not going to fuck you, bro. Let's go, Duke, every time they go, let's go, Duke. Like, we had nice seats and they weren't there. Like, we had some, we had some, not, you know, not obnoxious. I would never say obnoxious about fellow Duke fans, but they were loud and. Yeah, were the girls? They were girls, but it was more like they were.

It was like I was next to Big Cat and then I had, I had back up next to me. I felt like we were all like together, just, just chirping Big Cat. He was dead silent. I was, I was fucking word. I was fucking word. This kid, he's been talking for an hour and now, but like the whole game, he's had more than the past seven minutes in the last, the entire game. And then all of a sudden the last, after the cable, after the cable of three,

everything changed and those two free throws. Do you guys notice that the, the rims and the shoes were way squeakier tonight? Like, you know, they had a microphone on the rim. They had a microphone. Yeah, everything was magnifying. The clowns were clanging. It was just a great night. So for ball.

All right. So I guess we should wrap this up. Yeah, Bubba's saying that, um, I had a great time. It was awesome. Yeah, there we go, Jake. Yeah, it was so cool. Ready to go, Jake. Not even just like the result, just like the experience.

Yeah, it was great. It was the night we'll remember forever, forever, forever. I tweeted at the final media, everyone for the fight for the next three thirty five of basketball time, you will remember what happened for the rest. Yeah, we laughed about that one. Just in fact, Jake, honestly, I think my favorite part of tonight, the whole experience of the final four was getting to watch Jake watch it for the first time as like a life goal to be covering it

as a journalist. I'm very proud of you, Jake. And the best part was he was on press row. It's like he doesn't have a column. He was just tweeting no deadlines for this one. It was like, what's Jake doing over there? He's just tweeting. Yeah, and I got some interviews.

Yeah, no, you did. But like during the game, which is very funny, like all those guys are stressing about like what they're going to write. It's like, yeah, he's got a tweet. New age. Yeah. All right. Hey, why don't you end it? Why don't you tell us what you think?

What do you think about the game? What do you think about the game? I got it's over. Nothing. Cat got your tongue. It's just tough. It's tough. It's tough.

It's tough. It's tough. It's very tough. Any other team of Carolina. I think I could spin it. I don't really know what to say. You can't spin this. I don't know.

It's literally there's no. Literally, if it was Kansas, if it was Villanova, if it was any other blue blood Kentucky, like literally any other team, any other blue blood kicking out of this one, you could you could you could you could spin it. Michigan State is like, it's trash. It's trash. It's it's like he's in a garbage can. I don't like, yeah, it's yeah.

Big heck of a go. Let's hear from Hank. I will stay here for 10 times. I will stay here forever. It's I want to save this moment. I do think we should let Hank have the fun word though. Yeah, what do you what do you think about the game? Hank, make it free throws.

That's it. Yeah, if you want, if you want my word, my one take away. If you're a kid, maybe you know, you're an up and comer. You're a four or five star recruit. You want to know some advice, make it free throws. Yeah. Make your fucking free throws. All right.

That's the time capsule. OK, let's do some who's back. And then we will get to Stanford, Steve and Mark Titus, our wing date, our long awaited wing date. Hank, would you like to start with your who's back? Sure. OK, I have a few. Oh, great.

Hasbulla. Yeah. Shout out to Sunday Conversation. Hasbulla, I feel like everyone kind of has seen his videos. Doesn't know a lot about him. Caleb put out a video, a little backstory, funny, serious. I actually, I want to start the bandwagon supporting Hasbulla for the 2022 Secretary of the Interior of Dagestan.

Yeah, he says he wants to run for that position. I say let him have it. Basically, his entire profile is like you shouldn't have to have a license plate to drive a car. It was it was tinted windows, except for the back, not the back. And no speed limit on the highways. Lower speed limit in the city. Sounds sick.

It's great. Yeah. And then I'm actually now racking my brain to remember if we talk about this the other day, Dan Snyder. Yes. We did. Well, no, we didn't talk about it. But he's back.

Major. I know we were talking about it sometimes. Sometimes when we're together so much and we're like drinking and stuff, I forget what was what was conversations on the show. Yes, we have. And you probably were right. Sometimes we're together so much. We don't know.

We haven't. We haven't talked to Stanford Steve yet. And that's going to be like another hour. So yeah, can't wait for that to come up. But Hank is right. Like the day that Dan Snyder, Lord willing, either dies painfully or has to sell the Washington football team. He's cooking the books.

He was doing double, double books. So there's kind of respectful. You know, who else had two books? Who? Oh, God, the Bible, one and two. Yeah. No, apparently he was either cooking the books in terms of how he was using it to file for like some of his debt

or some of his loans he was getting, had two separate books. Or this is the more explosive charge that got put out last night that Congress is looking into. Apparently, Dan Snyder was withholding ticket money from the other NFL owners. They put it into a pool. They put like 40% of their ticket gate into a pool, then redistributed.

Apparently Snyder was lying about how much money he was getting in his gate. So he was actively stealing from the other owners. And like you can. Here's basically how the NFL works. You can you can have like active sexual harassment charges against 40 former employees. You can probably own a sweatshop.

But if you steal a million dollars from Jed York, they want to kill you. And so it looks like if anything's going to happen, this would be what could bring Dan Snyder down. I'm telling you, I will throw a fucking parade through the streets of water anywhere. I'll just I'll have a parade location to be determined. If Dan Snyder sells a team or dies in Arizona,

I am having a fucking party and it will be the best. It'll be better than a Super Bowl for me at that day. I cannot wait. I hope it's going to happen. Florio just texted me a second ago and was like, we're as close as we've ever been to him getting to sell the team. It's like the doomsday clock,

but it's also like the arrow paradox. He's always on top of that. Florio's never been wrong. Schrodinger's your Snyder at this point. Like he's dead. He's alive, but he's about to die. I can't wait. Yeah.

Is that it? That mod is back. Which I don't, what's the controversy around him? People were like surprised. He had health issues at the end of the Ohio State. I didn't know if it was like, yeah, I saw the reaction and people were like, I can't believe he's back.

I didn't know if it was because he got busted. The list of the biggest coaches now. Oh, give it to us, Jake. It's going to be so much fun. Is it rank old? Wait, rank him, Jake. Well, you have coached the year, Ed Cooley. Yeah, saw him, by the way.

He's awesome. He's such a nice guy. He said I made his Final Four, which I don't believe, but just for him to say that, feels good. Oh, he told me the same thing. I saw him, yeah. He's like, you made my Final Four.

Love it. I saw, he saw an old lady. He's like, you made my Final Four. So these 11 coaches are in the list I tweeted. So I guess they could be my rankings, just the names that came to my head. Jay Wright, Ed Cooley, Dan Hurley, Sean Miller, New, Chaka Smart, Patrick Ewing,

big name, but yeah, big name, big name. They didn't want a game. They stink. Yeah. She can all the way. Yeah, I see you right now. Jake is a friend of the program. I like it.

Thad Mada knew. And then Mike Anderson, St. John's, and then Greg McDermott and Tony Stubblefield. So he's loaded roster. Not bad. That is pretty good. The beast is back. Yeah.

So Thad Mada's back. So he was the AD at Indiana, right? No, he was just on the staff at Indiana. He was like a behind the scenes guy. Okay. He was like, he like helped with recruiting and stuff. I mean, he's a good coach. He's had a lot of success.

We'll see how he does. But yeah, I agree with you, Jake. It's going to be like the fact that there was three openings to the Big East this year, and those three got filled by Sean Miller, Thad Mada, and Shaheen Hallways. It's pretty something. I do like it when the Big East has

like that allure of great coaches. It's always, it's kind of like a throwback to the old days where it's like, OK, these coaches, I could actually see them like getting into fights with each other, which I love. Yes. You're who's back, PFT? My who's back is the course at Augusta National, Georgia.

Oh, yeah. So tough, tough look over the weekend, admittedly. Our two recurring guests on the podcast a long time, Stuley's, Bryson DeShambeau, and Dude Perfect got together, and they did their little weirdo Calvin Ball sport where they go out in the golf course and just bring every piece of sport equipment that they have.

Yep. I don't really understand the rules. Not just any golf course, though. But they went to Augusta. Amon's Corner. Yeah. So there are people saying it's a tough look for the course. I agree.

However, I also think that this is going to be motivating for the course. Like, the groundskeepers have gotten dragged this past weekend for letting those goofballs essentially take a piss on God's grass. And so they're going to, you know what's going to happen? The course is going to show its teeth. They're going to put some fucked up pin placements.

They're going to grow the rough out a little bit. I think it's going to be a fucked up course this week. I'm excited for it. Now, I understand golf fans being disgusted by this, because obviously Augusta is nothing sacred. Here's the thing. Augusta is stuck now, because their entire MO forever has been exclusivity, sacred, once a year, incredible.

Yeah, no women. Right. All this stuff, right? And so that's what has made it special, especially the no women part, like dudes only, guys. So by the way, did you? Who? Oh, Glennie Balls.

Phil Leotardo has a book that we got to do a book reading of. It's How to Be a Man's Man by a Guy. Yeah. It's a great book, but that's either here or there. So they've had this entire history of this exclusivity. Now, we're in a different age. They're trying to figure out a way to get new fans. So they have to start doing new things.

And you get this. You get Dude Perfect. You get Bryson DeChambeau. It was one of those things, though, when it came out. I screenshotted some tweets, because I was just laughing so hard, because again, I actually am on the side of golf hardos that like if you say that exclusivity is your thing and it's sacred,

you can't have this, but some people's reactions. I think Augustus should be the one place that you should be able to be a dick about being exclusive there. It's kind of nice to have this one prestigious bot that has completely arbitrary rules that make no sense whatsoever. Like you can't even bring cell phones to the mass. Right.

I don't know why I love it. I just do. It's like, you can fucking Dude Perfect. They're trying to do both. They're trying to do both on A-men's Corner. The way that they usually act is saying, like, fuck you. It's a privilege for us to let you into this place. You should be thanking us, kissing our feet to get in.

But at the same time, you can't also be like, hey, we found it. We took five TikTok stars and dropped them out of an airplane onto the 13th fairway. And they were going to go out there and make content for an afternoon. You can't do it both ways. Yeah.

So I screenshotted some reactions, because I just thought they were very funny. One said, shouldn't be done at Augusta. Honestly, stunned. This got approved. That's totally normal, whatever. Shocking and disgusting stuff from Augusta National. Can't believe what I'm seeing.

Another person said, I feel sick seeing this on sacred grounds. And then the last one I saw was I watched both my parents die. This is the worst thing I've ever seen. I'll never recover. That was actually from our colleague Kirk Minahan, which I got a good chuckle of. But I understand there are golf fans who this is the worst day of their lives watching that happen.

Welcome to our army. We've been fighting a two-front battle against Dude's Perfect and Bryson DeChambeau for the last four years on this podcast. So listen, I'm happy to have all the haters aboard. I think we've got a good track record on this podcast of using our hate for good causes. Yep, we killed Coach K. We killed Coach K. Next up is the Dude Perfect, guys.

I do think, though, that the course will have its vengeance. The course is anger. You've angered the course. The golf gods, the marketing team at Augusta is the one that is responsible for this. The actual groundskeepers are going to do Michael Jordan meme. I took that personally. You know what, though?

It's just popped in my head. And we have our good friend Max Homer on next Wednesday to preview the Masters. Now that the Masters have been completely tarnished and it's a Mickey Mouse course, who's better to win it than Max Homer. That's true. It's kind of his championship to win now.

That's very, very true. Like, he's the king of the Fortnite PlayStation 5 Mickey Mouse trophies. You know what, he's probably going to ask for his green jacket in pink or something. So yeah, I'm excited to watch Max. I forgot what I was going to say. I had some other fun fact about Augusta

that I read earlier this week about how it's, oh, well, really the last that we saw of the true course when Matsuyama's caddy bowed to the course. Yes. At the end, that was really the end of Augusta as we know it. That was it. It was over. It was over.

All right, my who's back is LeBron because this is just so. I know that people have gone in and out of watching the Lakers and being like, why are we talking this much about a team that's not in the playoffs? It's just great to watch. They were the Friday night game against the Pelicans when he did an April Fool's joke in the middle of the day where he's like, I'm out for the rest of the season.

See you all in the fall. And then he airballs a three to try to win that game. They need every game. It's also great because his tweets coming back and everyone's retweeting it over and over. I think he actually deleted it when he said, keep talking about my squad, our personnel, ages, the way he plays, he stays injured,

we're past our time in this league, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Do me one favor, please. And I mean, please keep that same narrative energy when it begins. That's all I ask. Hashtag, thank you, Kings Crown. And we are keeping that same energy.

And it is great. I don't want to keep that same energy. I don't want to keep remembering that, but he asked me to. He did. And so I'd, you know, far be it for me to disobey one of LeBron James' orders. I mean, we are his, he is the king, and we are his peasants.

He is the greatest athlete that the world has seen. And we serve him. Yeah, he didn't play today either. 20 teams in the NBA make playoffs, which is crazy. And he's not going to be one of them. And I really want them to make the playoffs, because I want them to lose. I would like them to get swept in the playoffs.

That would be fun. I've almost reached a point where I feel bad for LeBron. No, never. I feel a little bit bad for the guy. We're making a hate card for LeBron. I'm addicted to the hate card game, just passing him out. Well, one thing that people don't remember is when he pulled his penis out on television.

I remember, I saw it. Saw it in 4K. Actually, I don't think 4K was around then. Thank god. All right, Jake, your who's back. My who's back of the week is paying for Mets fans. The season has not started yet. Let me guess.

Jacob DeGrom. And? Max Scherzer. They're both her. That's tough. It's almost funny how they had an unbelievable off-season. By the way. Yeah, I mean, that's the Mets.

Yeah, great. By the way, who's back? The Yankees, because as Brian Cashman said, he doesn't like what people say. He hasn't been to the World Series since 2009, because in 2017, the Astros stole it from him. So please respect that the Yankees did go to the World Series that year.

Yeah, can you imagine? Like, the Yankees probably would have played really well and won several World Series if they had cheated. But they didn't. They're too classy. When is that report going to happen? Well, I think they're unredacting the letter pretty soon. And I don't know exactly what's going to be on it.

I just know that any time something that gets unredacted, I'm there for it. I love reading unredacted information. It feels like, yeah, it feels like you're Edward Snowden. Yeah, which is named Jack Ryan. Yes. Poor mess fans. This is tough.

All right, that's good who's back. Thanks. How are we doing, guys? We good as a podcast? Yeah, Hank, what are your thoughts? Can't wait for wings. What do you think about Coach K? Sad.

I wish he, it's tough. 50-50 is tough. 50-50 is tough. He was an average coach. 51-49. He was an average coach with great players. The rivals, championship wouldn't have mattered, truthfully, if they won or lost that.

Oh, you mean that was your championship? Yeah, that was. How many games do they have to beat North Carolina? And he's coming back, by the way. Yeah, like 100%. This to be a race. I don't, I was talking with Marty on bench, Bob. Like, if Duke wins every game the next decade

in the regular season, I don't know how much it was. Yeah, they have to meet again in the fucking Final Four, which like, is that going to happen? Right. Probably not. I agree with Hank, though. I do think that Coach K, there's a good chance that we haven't seen the last of him.

I'm rooting for him to come back all the way, because it would be such a great moment of like, I think there's a lot of people who realize how big of a dick he is. Then there's Duke fans. But if he comes back, like. You're just making that up. No, there's a lot of people.

There's a lot. There's at least 500, because I passed out 500 cards in Bourbon Street this weekend. But if he comes back, people will like, double down and be like, oh my god. I'll just have to, I might have to take a sabbatical and just commit my life to following him around on his second retirement.

Did you guys hear this question? I was asked to him after the game. We're not going to talk about Duke anymore, though. Wait, just listen. Thank you. Thank you for everything you did. Here, here we go. I know I'm speaking for all of college basketball,

but thank you. Thank you for everything you've done. The best is when Coach K says, you're welcome for everything I've done for the sport of college basketball. Oh my god. Yeah, you're welcome. All right, let's get to Titus. And Stanford Steve, the long-awaited wing date,

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Now we're going to get back to our wing date with Stanford Steve and Mark Titus. And now our wing date with Stanford Steve and Mark Titus. OK. We are here at Fat Harry's in New Orleans. The famous wing date has happened. It's Titus, Stanford Steve, PFT, Hank, myself. I mean, we got to start with Titus.

It was the first time he's ever had buffalo wings. I was just going to say, look at the fulfillment in his face, PFT. He looks good. He looks like a man. You can tell, like, he's just like a marathoner. So I'm like, I can just see it in your face. First time.

I did it. First time ever. I've ever had ever chicken of any kind. So how it is? Jim Harbour did teach us the nervous bird. All right. So I'm going to, as I've explained on the show a million times, it wasn't the chicken.

It was the scene around the chicken that is the, I mean, look at this. If you're watching, I mean, look at these alphas. You feel at home. You know, setting up shop here. Steve does look like an alpha right now. He really does. He's wearing a throwback bird.

Short Steve, warm up. He looks like a guy from Boston. He looks unbelievable. 1990, that's the name, Johnny McGloin. He's wearing it. He's in a weekend jail. They let him out money through Friday for attempted stabbing. I got an uncle named Sully.

Sully, yeah, he's doing it to cheer up Hank. I did. Because his Duke, we promised we wouldn't talk too much about Duke, but his Duke Blue Devils did lose Hank. I keep saying that. We've done nothing but Coach K content for a week and a half. We're going to be covering the MLB All-Star Game this summer and be like, Hank.

Remember the time Coach K lost to UNC? But no, we're here. Fat Harry's unbelievable establishment. Nicest people. The owner was back here telling us the story. They've been running this place since the 70s. Unbelievable wings. They're great wings.

And I think that's just what I want to drive home, is that coming to a play, getting a text from the two of you that say, meet up Fat Harry's, and we're going to house wings. Again, I can't stress enough. That picture is what is the chicken itself. Is this what you thought it was going to be? It was.

It was. It looked like expectations. It was. It was just like, for me, I wasn't worried about the chicken. I was worried about everything. It's like the Final Four of like, when the game starts, I'm good. It's the hype around the game.

Before, but wasn't the conversation, like we talked about, could Nick Saban win a national title in Purdue? Yes. Could LeBron take Dartmouth to a Final Four? Is Geno Oriama Coward never coaching men's basketball? These are normal conversations that we have around wings. Yeah.

It's good stuff. Yeah. So like, I settled in. I really did. It took me a while, but I settled in. It was weird when you tried to kiss Jake before we started. I was like, dude, this isn't custom. I was like, what are you doing here?

He's like, oh, I thought we all kissed. I will say my hands are very sticky. Oh, no. He was looking around. He was trying to get the wings. And he wipes. Ideally, we got wipes. I thought they'd have latex gloves for us.

Hank, you got a wipes? Dude wipes. Dude wipes. There we go. He's going to go to the fucking emergency care. What's going on in my hand? You're going to want to wash those before you pee. Also, my mouth got a lot of sauce around the mouth

to where when I wiped the sauce, I felt like I was wiping my makeup off as I was wiping the sauce, which I'm just going to say. He's going to get back to that salon in LA. And they're going to be like, what did you do with your hands? Yes. Where did you go? You're never leaving the city.

We don't have wings in LA. That's what I think. A lot of people are killing me for it. They aren't outweighing. No, they don't exist. All right, so we're here at Final Four. Yeah. What do we want to talk about?

I mean, Duke, Coach K, Stanford, Steve. Should we give Hank the floor? Well, the last thing I image I had. The last people at this point in the podcast have heard us talk about this seven times. In different like sober, drunk. I haven't heard. Reverse forward.

I haven't heard yet. Yeah. So yeah, let's have Tyson stand for Steve. Give us your breakdown. What do you think was the most disappointing aspect of what happened to Duke and Coach K last night? And just to set the stage, I saw Stanford, Steve at halftime, and he looked at me, he winked at me.

And he goes, Duke's got this. Don't listen to a word he's saying right now. Because I walked right up to him. I said, great job by you all week, politicking about Coach K. And look at the whistle Duke got. Oh, a Duke fan complaining about the whistle. Isn't that beautiful? I mean, come on.

There was some crazy, there was some crazy calling. I'm on the big top, I'm on the big top, I'm on the big top. I was a fair whistle last night. Your man, if it was anything, it was against you. Yes. Like, Big Cup fouled out. Your man, Coach K, said it was a foul. Yeah.

When they asked him about it, he goes, I'm not talking about Coach K right now, I'm talking about you guys. It was a foul. I love the Duke fan. It's a complete rock whistle. So don't run away from the question, what was the most disappointing part of the night?

Duke not winning. Just in general, like, it wasn't Coach K's timeout management. No. It wasn't. Yeah. He took the entire scene for himself after the game. Theo John gets shot on the boss.

It was that. Mark Williams gets thrown under the bus. Big time. Mark Williams deserves to be underneath that boss. Oh, wow. Someone's got to take accountability. Missed free throws. He shouldn't have been in the game.

Who's fault was that? Yup. Who was actually the rest faults for not calling more fouls against Duke? That's true. When did we start with the stools? Why do they have to sit on the stools up there? I think that was back to Coach K.

It was very weird. He liked it in 15, though. You were there, you saw it. Remember, you mother fucker. Good boy. I think that was the first year. Yeah. Was that the first year of the stools?

He looks like a sad little gardener. He's got to bring that cool sweatshirt to this year. To this final four. Oh, here we go. I love this. Let's go. Listen, I'm a loser. You walk around.

You and Hank walk around as winners. I am a New York match, man. I'm a born loser. I know things. I'm a loser. You guys are winners. When you lose, you've got to understand the world is going to shit down your throat.

I expected them to lose. No, didn't you say at halftime, you said? You're a liar. You're a liar. These cameras weren't there at halftime. Steve, I have this question for you, and all seriousness, does this ruin the Carolina Duke rivalry? Because I don't think Duke can ever get this bet.

Like, Duke can never get the power back. I think it does. But it definitely ruins it a little bit. It does, because North Carolina is now unquestionably the winner of this rivalry against Coach K. The only way they can get it back is if Duke, if they get really, really shitty for five years, if they stop winning all together,

maybe they go to a couple NITs and actually play in them. I think that at that point, when Duke makes their comeback, then people will be like scrappy little Duke, like a little brother clawing their way back to the top. I mean, Hank, I'll say this. Like, being guys that have been invested in this rivalry for so many years, and you guys just jumping in the last year or so.

Yeah, I want to know. I want to know in the tournament with UNC. Good. Yeah, go get your sweatshirt. Get your fucking shine back. No, it's definitely not. I mean, seriously, if you've been there, like it's incredible.

I mean, you guys were in there last night. There's nothing like it was. It was incredible. I do want to ask this, Steve, because you do say, and you go to, like, pretty much, you know, you've been to every college campus, you go to all these sporting events, you said the Final Four is your favorite.

Yes. Why? Just because being selfish as a sports fan, I get three games. Yeah. I have a sneaky, very underrated day of the year. Today? Some wing day? Today.

Yes, I agree with that. Are we locking this in, by the way? We made it. Yes. This is, am I? Standing day. Are we saying this for later? We adjusted the rules for you, but it's usually tomorrow,

but we didn't want to interrupt your greatest day of the year. Right. OK, so that, I mean, it was a humble part. Yeah, so I'm just honored to be part of, like, your actual day of the year is today. You're saying that. I was just saying, sneaky. No, you're right.

Yeah, because it's also, like, half of the town that you're in clears out, because it's the shifting of fans, because then more fans will be here on Monday. But it's like, you're in a city. You don't think so? No. You don't think they'll be here? No, they're on for fun.

No, UNC and Kansas fans will show up. They'll show up. But I don't think it's going to be as big a crowd as it was yesterday. No, no, I'm saying, no, but you see what I'm saying, like, when you come to the final four, Friday, Saturday, it's packed, because you've got all four schools. Sunday is a travel day.

Whoever loses leaves, Monday, whoever stayed, more fans come in. Gotcha. So it's like a nice, like, you know, the lines aren't as long. So I'm agreeing, Sunday's the best. Yeah, it's real. I'll never forget.

One of the first one I went to was 99, Duke Lost to Yukon. St. Petersburg was like, they did play a final four in the trap. Tampa, yeah. They played it in the trap. Why was it there? Yes, they were. Scooty Penn lost his jersey.

Yeah. Scooty Penn all-time name. Had to wear 35 with no name on the back. That was insane, because like, warm weather, beach, like, people didn't know, like, Yukon fans had no idea what to do. You had no idea what to do on Sunday, and it was just a debacle.

So what? Emore City was out of fringes. Oh, yeah, straws. Un-unbelievable. Strip clubs. But, like, you just, and now this place, there's nothing like it. And to have four, are we agreeing for blue blood?

I think Villanova's got, like, their part blue blood. They've got, like, a few drops of blue blood. Titus is getting one. I asked the expert. I asked the expert. I'm sorry, but let me just say before he does it, Titus, credit to him, he and Tate have had this debate, like, four years ago.

Yeah. So he's upset that everyone else is now coming up to him. Yeah, I haven't locked in. I have, I think they're very clearly, they're very clearly 11 and a half blue bloods. And it is, you start at the top with the Carolinas and the Duke and the Kentucky and the Kansas. I think UCLA gets in.

I think Indiana, if you look up the definition of blue blood. Yep, and Brent. Agreed. Yes, Indiana qualifiers. I think that counts. Where'd you grow up? Who cares? Why are people fat?

Like, you don't do this with. I just want to know for a lit, like, if they put a shirt before. I want to make sure they know where you're from. I'm curious, why is college basketball the only, like, no other sport does anybody talk about, like, blue blood? Like, did college football do this? You didn't finish the list.

Does college football do this? Yeah. Yeah. Who the college football blue bloods? Alabama. Yeah, there's one. No, it's just. It's Alabama, it's Ohio State.

It's USC. It's Texas. Notre Dame. I would say Michigan. Texas on the edge. I would say Michigan. Notre Dame's in there. Michigan's probably in there.

But if you have more than five on the list, doesn't it feel a little bit ridiculous to make the list? Derek's like, what the fuck? Well, I don't know if you can say, like, blue blood, LSU. I love LSU. LSU is too drunk to be a blue blood. They show up and they just wreck shit every 10 years. The problem with blue bloods in college basketball, too,

is all the blue bloods are literally blue. And then it warps your brain. And that's where Indiana gets butted. And that's why I get upset about it, because as a guy who grew up in Indiana, I see through it. And I'm like, you guys are simple minded. That's all it is. You're not actually looking at the numbers.

You're looking at literally the colors. And it's stupid. That's dumb. But that's kind of the beauty of it. So that's why Villanova and Yukon went a few titles and everyone says they're blue bloods. Throw them in there. If Villanova had Oregon State's colors,

nobody's making that argument. Would you say that? That's a fact. That's a fact. All right. That's a fact. Would you say that? Buffalo wings or blue blood snack?

I think they are. Instead of Mount Rushmore, we should just do blue bloods. But yeah, no Villanova. How many though? How many blue bloods? Don't tell SVP that. Villanova is. You got sticky fingers when it comes to segments.

They are blue blood. They won one in 85. They have more of the blue blood than Yukon. I will give them. The Yukon has more titles. They have the history. They have the. Here's what I say to anyone who's like,

Villanova's not blue blood. It's like, dude, eventually you have to prove it at some point. Duke wasn't a blue blood in what, 1985? Is Duke a blue blood? Are they now? Good question. It's something that we have. No, I mean, I just want to get to it.

I mean, if you think about it, hold on, hold on, hold on. My boy, I've lost my voice. Is Duke a blue blood or are they a program that had one good coach? Oh, good question. Oh. Or you can't like. John Sireme.

Yeah. Yeah. Big Boobus. I'm talking about Vic Boobus, who his name is literally Vic Boobus. What's the final four? It would be impossible to hate a coach. You're right now named Vic Boobus.

Way back in the day. Yeah. Yeah. That makes you think. I don't know. Like, you take away everything. Take away the Coach K era. What has Duke done?

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It's more Bob Knight. Discussion that no one's having, but I think it's important. If you stopped college basketball in 1990, Indiana is probably one of the best programs. Yes. And she stayed. It's just stayed. You guys have several.

Kevin Olly, you go down the list. Mike closer to your mouth. What's up? Keep your Mike closer to your mouth. Oh, OK. It's been a long week. How's everybody's voice feeling? You guys are professional podcasters.

I don't know how you do it talking this much. Like, I'm everything. Anybody have remedies? Yeah, no, there's not. Eventually, on a week like this, where you just talk so much, you just kind of lose track. And we're just poor out of your mouth. And you just check off.

OK, I've been talking for 30 seconds now. So done with that segment. Yeah, you got to just basically not talk for two days. But PFT, he's not wearing his hat now. He's got a pretty cool hat he's been wearing. But on day one, we got here. And he and Rudy and Hank went and they got hats. And I was talking to Rudy.

I was like, what's up with the hat? He goes, it's a vacation hat. And I was like, we're not on vacation. No. It's like what? It's the truth. He's like, well, PFT kept on saying vacation hat. Yeah, no.

New Orleans is just a vacation city. The word vacation I'm using in a very liberal sense here. But I don't need you policing vacation hats on me. You kind of are. Your hat look cool. I just said it look cool. I said your hat look cool. You came hatless here?

Because he wore his on the plane, right? Yeah, I brought hats on the plane. But when I go out of town, if I'm in a new city, if I'm on a work trip, which is fun, a lot of times I'll get a fun vacation hat. Yeah, it's like girls, when they do the bachelor party, bachelor party, they wear the shirts that all say the same thing and they walk around.

With the wine things, like Hakuna Moscato. I saw two of those last night on Bourbon Street. Do you think they knew it was the final four weekend bachelor party? No. I saw a wedding last night. I saw at the bar at 1 AM, there is the bride and groom. They were taking pictures outside of one of the bars.

That was, I mean, that was like enough for a draft in Nashville a couple of years ago. You remember that with the bachelor? Yeah, they got mad. Yeah, they were so mad. That was my favorite meme of that year. I mean, that's our guy, Mincey, who I love. Salt to the Earth, King of the South.

Hogs to the cause, great cause. If you haven't donated, go donate. But Mincey was like, I can't believe Dave and Dan are at Hogs to the Cause. And it was like, we're here for the final four. If the final four was anywhere else, we wouldn't be at Hogs to the Cause. I had a great time.

It was a lot of fun. But it was just like, the final four was the event this weekend. Yeah. I have a question for Hank. Have you given any thought to this being a great opportunity for you to just completely shift your college basketball fandom?

Have you thought about like, no, because honestly, maybe just flush it. Maybe just let it go. That's a good question. And find a new team. Like, maybe this is a bit on the show where you're like, I'm available. I'm a free agent.

Somebody find it. No, I think sports goes back to being a kid. And when I was a little kid, I was a huge Duke fan. And honestly, as I got older, and I kind of, you know, me and BigHour laughing about it, seeing the other Duke fans and maybe me not identifying with them on a personal level. But that was like, oh, my god, Duke fans. They were the nerdiest kids ever.

And I was like, Hank, they're going to your people. And he's like, Hank, do you own the do you own the horns that light up the. I don't. So I don't know that. Every time we touch hand motions or again, I was also saying that's a tough song to be a rallying song. It was like a big song 2000.

Either way, I was a huge fan when I was a kid. I never went to a real college. That's always going to be the college I root for. Well, you did. No matter what. What was it called? Boston University Center for Digital Imaging Arts. That's real.

Later to be unaccredited by Boston University. Went to a Final Four in 1924. Are they blue blood? Yes. Literally a building wall fan. How many coaches do they have? I agree with Hank. I don't think that you can change.

I think that this is your bed that you make. I also love how mad I guess we have like a secret. Oh, yeah. No, it's just people so many. It's fun because people are like, OK. You got to lie to it. I think the only way that you can ever, because we talk about that from time to time,

like especially with it laying on Falcons fans, where they're just like, I just want to quit my team. I don't want to get away from it. I think you should be allowed to quit your team and find a new one. If the new place that you select, you have to take all of that city sports teams. You can't just say, you have to switch your allegiance

to the entire area. Drew Carey, he changed my thinking on this, because I remember him talking about the Browns one time, where he said, if any other business, if you went to a restaurant and you ordered something, and instead of bringing food, they just like shit on a plate and handed it to you. It's so true.

Nobody would fall you if you're like, you know what? I used to be loyal to that restaurant. Honestly, for the past seven years I've gone there, all they do is shit on the plate and hand it to me. And punch me in the nose. Like, I'm going to go ahead and not go to this restaurant anymore. It makes you feel really bad about myself. Why do you keep going?

Well, my dad used to eat this shit all the time. And then his grandfather has all these stories about the shit. I remember he made that point. I was like, that actually checks out. That makes a lot of sense. But also, you can't, you can't. So along those same lines, are Duke fans now, will they have to be a little less douchey knowing

that they have that trump card hanging over their head at all times? Because I've heard a lot about it, like Duke fans being like, we'll never get over this one. But time heals all wounds. If Duke starts next season, man. Are you going to let them hear the end of it? No.

OK, obviously, I'm not. But I'm saying, if Duke has the number one recruiting class, if they start next year, 15 and 0, are they just as like, you know what I mean? It has a little bit of their confidence been rattled. Well, I think the position of Duke fans is that you hate them because you're jealous. Like, we've talked about it at least.

We don't hate them because we're jealous. A little bit. Yeah, a little bit. But they're a lot of good college friends. You could never have gotten in there. Someone said that. A Duke fan actually said that to me. They're like, you're mad because you couldn't get in there.

We're doing college insults? I'm 37. I like people to say, you're not a Duke fan because you wouldn't have what it takes to root for my team. Yeah, yeah, you couldn't handle it. But I think their point of view is always that everyone else is jealous. You're just a jealous hater.

So now, I don't know how you can, if you're a Duke fan, you can honestly believe that people are jealous given what you've gone through. So when people continue to hate Duke, I don't know how you can rationalize in your brain that this is coming from a point of jealousy. That's a good point. Yeah, people will be nice now.

So I don't think they can be douchey. No, no one be nice. I think it goes from like, you guys, the Duke haters, is your hate going to remain the same? Yes, no chance. I agree. No chance. I'm going to be honest, mine's not.

I hate Kay. I don't hate. But that's a Kay card. That's a Kay card, though. John Shire card is just national champion. The job's not done. No, I won't. I think what's going to happen is the hate is going

to get a lot less until Coach Kay comes back halfway through next season after John Shire starts out 8-11. And then he comes back to take it. My idea was Kay does Undertaker does a WrestleMania where he only comes back for one match and it's the North Carolina. Barry Alvarez. Yeah, Barry Alvarez.

And he touches a guy. North Carolina had Cameron in North Stadium. And he only comes back every year to coach that game until he wins it. And then he actually does. And then he actually does. That would be awesome if he just kept losing it, though, over and over.

You're right, though. The hate won't be the same without Kay. Like I've said, I still will hate Duke. I'm not going to hate John Shire. I'm going to let it naturally come to me. I'm sure eventually anyone in Kay's coaching tree will eventually piss me off. But it won't be the same.

I'll miss him. He's a great heel. All right, I'll give you an example. I'm older than you guys. But the early 90s, Jimmy Johnson, Dallas Cowboys. Whereas if you weren't a fan of that, you hated him. Hated. That team.

I don't hate them as much as I used to. Yeah, no, you feel bad for the Cowboys. Yeah, no, there's a little bit of like, oh, the Cowboys. That's funny. It was just like, look how good this team is. You're right. That's what I'm saying. They had everything.

He beat the system with the draft. He had all the picks. Look at all the hallfamers from that team. No, you're right. I'm trying to compare. That's the only thing I can do. OK, but Duke to suck. Yankees, baby.

Here's the difference, though. Duke does have the number one recruiting class. Like, they're going to keep being good. Yes. Yep. They're not going to have. I'd be shocked if John Shire has, like, if it nose dives. They're going to be good.

You think? Oh, you think? What do you think? Tell us. I mean, Michigan had the number one recruiting class this year. Yeah, John and Howard then smushed a guy. Joe Krabinoff.

Oh, I hear you, but I don't know. I don't think you can say confidently what's going to happen with Duke. That's what's so interesting, is that for the first time, we don't know. OK. I really don't think we know. John Shire is my age, so like, the idea of being good.

Have you ever heard him say, I don't know? Yeah. I've never heard Titus say, I don't know. I would put Humboldt, but the chicken. Never have I heard that. Why would you put your life on the line? You said, hey, Titus, if Duke wins one title in the next 10 years, you've got to kill yourself.

Wait, what's the question? If you win zero, you get to live. If you win zero, you get to live. I don't take that bet. Yeah, I do not accept those terms. Yeah, I don't. You don't? I disagree with that.

I disagree with those terms. I find the premise false. It's a pass. Over half a championship in the next decade for Duke. Life on the line. I would take the under. That's how you ask the question. I would take the under.

Yeah, now I'm going to answer you now. I'll bet you our lives. Yeah. Yeah. We get to kill you. We get to kill the loser. We get to kill the loser. We get 10 years.

Because the rationale is this, in 2012, if you would have said a decade for Mark Feudal in a title. I'd say no. Gonzaga plays in a Mickey Mouse conference. And I would have been right. So you kill yourself. That's how it works. That would be, I mean, I think there are so many guys,

like obviously Duke has a program that's won a ton of national titles. John Shire, we don't know. He's not proven. And for the idea that you can just step in to a machine that's already built and ride it to a national championship. UNC is about to. We, I don't know.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't think that's necessarily a given. I kind of hope, though, that Shire steps into Coach K's shoes and does some of the same stuff that Coach K did. Like, I want Duke to continue to be the villain. I don't want Shire to step in and to be like a likable guy and to make friends with all the reporters and to be doing TikToks and shit.

I don't want Duke to get young. I want Duke to stay old. He got a fight with Pat Sullivan, John Shire. Oh, yeah? Yeah. I did see that. Yeah, after the, that's what I was saying. Yeah.

Getting a little fire going. So maybe you're onto something. I do want that, though. Like, it's important to me to have certain traditions that are kept alive in sports. Yeah. I think Duke just being like a quickly. But you need something to keep the hatred.

Oh, yeah. All right, all right, all right, all right. I want to point at somebody and be like, that's, wait, say it, say that. Who's the bad guy? That's the bad guy. That's the bad guy. Yeah, you never see another bad guy like him.

You're always going to. He's the guy. I think that the Duke fans are always going to be nerdy and always, like the camera crazies aren't going away. They're still funny when you lose. Like, they're still going to be. I saw a dude in a full blue and white, like, it was like a, it was like a Spartan uniform, like, like actual Sparta,

like, like, whatever, 3,000 years ago, with like the armor. Very cool. And like a skirt, and he's walking down the street. I also think you should stop wearing the right dress. Dude, what are you doing? You should not be allowed to wear rugby shirts. Yeah. It's stolen valor.

Yeah. The least rugby people in the world. It's a good tradition. Have you ever rooted for Duke? In basketball, men's. I would say there, the early 2000s, there was a time when I didn't hate Duke. Like 2001, final four, they're coming back against Maryland.

The, the miracle minute in, in Coolfield house, like watching that, I wasn't necessarily cheering for Duke. I was like, this is pretty cool that they're coming back from down 10 with a minute. And the final four, I like that team. There are Duke teams that I like. The 2019 team I actually really like. I like design, RJ Barrett, Cameron.

I like those guys. They seem like likeable guys. You called the 2015 title. The 2015 title. He did. Yeah. Justice Winslow was like one of your favorite players. Justice Winslow was one of my favorite players.

13 fouls to six in the second half. I, I argue for Justice Winslow being number one pick, because, uh. Did Sam Zekker play that night? 13 fouls to six. He got concussed in the game before you, motherfucker. That's very rude. Two air balls, he got concussed.

So I, I don't think. I actually asked him that. I was like, dude, like, off the record, where you can cuss. He was like, that is the meanest thing you could ever ask. Off the record, where you can cuss. So yeah, I think there's a world where I don't hate Duke moving forward. I just hate to coach K. Have you ever?

Never. No. No. Because you were saying to me, like, I, I'm true. We were too young, you know, 85. You, you, you were saying like the UNLV game. It's one of the greatest upsets of all time. I don't, I was too young for that.

Like, I don't remember that. All-timer. So I think that, yeah, if there was, if I was a little bit older, maybe that changes things, because there's definitely something to be said about the tournament. You always find yourself gravitating towards the underdog story. And we just, we're too, we just missed the cut to see Duke as an underdog.

Yeah. Right. Right. Like Duke was, by the time I started having memories of March Madness, it was, you know, Christian Leightner had already happened or was happening, like, many of my first. Leightners always bring up the year before. They don't remember 91, but they bring up 90 when they be,

be by 30 by UNLV. Yeah. The biggest deficit. They get to be by 30. Yeah, the biggest deficit ever. Yeah. Mike Dunley is a guy I love. Yeah.

I love Mike Dunley. I love Mike Dunley when he's in college. I love him now. I saw Mike Dunley. Trying to think, what Duke player? Who's your favorite Duke player? I'm trying to think. Christian Leightner, Daniel Ewing.

Wojo. Sean Dockery. I wish that Wojo was like a little bit better. Shablik Randolph, two made of ours. I couldn't even muster up hate for Wojo, because he was like, just not good enough to hate. Josh McRoberts. But he was fun to watch.

I didn't hate Trajan Langdon just because it was funny to say that he was from Alaska. Yeah. There it is. That's it. That's the nice thing about him. And Boozer. Boozer from Alaska too.

Yeah. Yeah, that's the nice thing I could say about too. Trajan Langdon was like a nice fun like, hey, here that guy's from Alaska. What a story. It's just like, what? OK. Yeah, they just repeat it all the time on the broadcast.

Cherokee Parks. Yeah, Cherokee Parks. Well, dang. Yeah, dang. I mean, I love Luol Deng. We're not doing the great Chicago Bowl. But Luol Deng made Coach K upset by leaving. Well, that was the first guy that Coach K was like,

I will make an exception to my rule, because his entire family and all of their friends live in abject poverty, halfway around the world. So I understand it's important to him to make money while he can. Yes. But that's what it took for Coach K to break. Yes, exactly.

It was like, do you want his family to die? And he made him cry first. Yeah. He brought Luol Deng's mom into the office and was like, you've disgraced the Duke Blue Devils. We're not doing the thing, that tweet that says guys will just sit around and just mention athletes. We're literally doing that.

We're just naming players from the night days. Daniel, you remember him? Remember him? The crime dog? Oh, fuck. All right, then we'll wrap it up. Roback question. Last question.

Speaking of, hold on. How dare you interrupt the Roback question? That's not the Roback. Have you ever gotten products for these guys? I have gotten Roback. Shout out Roback, dude. Hook it up. I got some Roback.

They don't make 4XL. Remember when you used to sit there? That was for the 2015. That was for the 2015. We're even. All right, I'm going to the gym. See you guys. Closest gym.

Anyone? New Orleans does have a good way of making you feel like, oh my god, I need to be on a diet right now. So do you know last time you won a bar fight? I feel like you could still wreck some shit. Like, don't make Steve angry. Never? There's one rule.

Get up against the bar. Get up against the bar? Why's that? Oh, bar fight. I like that. That's a great rule. I'm trying to remember that. Steve is a recilibar fight.

Steve would fuck a recilibar fight. I think recilibar. No, recilibar's got popcorn muscles. I have, dude. Popcorn muscles. He does. You got man strength. I have zero strength.

Recilibar's like a supersized boy. You got dad strength, too. Which is like. Yeah, yeah. Recil's a fucking. You're not sitting on his couch again. If you need someone to show you there's squats, like that's recilibar.

If you need someone to beat. No, Ryan. Someone that's you. That's a great point, Steve. Ryan, I take it all back. Let's take some time to say that. If I need a hit, man, I say Steve is like in my top five calls.

Agreed. Yeah. Agreed. I appreciate the compliment. After dance. All right, the Roback question, we will get 4XL for Steve. The Roback question, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Three is five.

He's got take. I'm up to a two and it was a tough transition. I noticed she had the same shirt on two days in a row. No, I actually have two of them. Roback dot com. I do. I have two of them. I have a bunch.

I brought a bunch of Titus, too, and he just didn't take any. Roback dot com, use code. We're not going to talk about that size. You get 20% off. Hoodies, Q-Zips, Polos, everything. Roback dot com, promo code take. No, I had to do the most embarrassing thing, hit up. Because you know, being in this business,

you know I do that all the time. But you know, in this business, you get free shit, right? I had to hit up everyone who gives me free shit being like, hey, it's 2X now, so make sure you update the record. It's like when you lose your debit card and you have to update all your auto-recurring payments, it can't hit up all the free shit people. I was like, put another X on them.

I was like, yeah, you sent me a bunch of sweet gear, but none of it fits, so yeah, 2X, please. All right, Roback question. Oh, let's do a quick preview of the game tonight, who we got, pick. UNC's plus four, over under $1,452 and a half, I want to say. Is that high again? Yeah.

I, why don't you start, Steve? You're the handicapper, what'd you go this year? You went 90%? Not 90, a little under. We've had a good tournament, and it's because we've adopted two words. We had a tuffly date. Yeah, it's a long tournament.

Oh, let me find the text. This is bad, but it's me and Steve. Well, I'm implicating myself, too, Steve. I mean, do you remember that? Go ahead, send some more people for the 2XL text, too. Oh, man. The 4XL strong record. Caroline Moneyline.

I just feel like they're not, I don't know. I still didn't understand why Duke was a four point favorite. They, now, you have the whole idea of, is it, did they win their title last night or Saturday night? You know, Kansas, did they use their best game Saturday? Like, there's just a lot of things. I just love the ability of Caroline to be able to score at every position.

Well, Kansas used their best half in the second half against Miami, but then they extended that into two more. That extended to a full 40. So that's three halves of their best three halves of the year. Can they do it again? I'm thinking it's Kansas. It's like, don't overthink it. It's Kansas.

This was UNC's title game. Yeah. Here's the text message I was referring to. Steve and I were texting on Saturday morning at the Elite 8, and Steve said, I love all four of these games so much. It's scary. Moneyline Parlor. I said, give me the picks.

He said, Arkansas, Miami, UNC Houston, Moneyline Parlor. I said, I love it. I got my nuts on Houston and Miami here. I don't think we texted it until we got to Louisiana. Oh, bloodbath. I love these picks so much. Yeah, that's gambling, baby. I think you got a ride to UNC.

That's what I'd say. Kansas just played a near-perfect game. For the sake of our dear friend, Mark, who went out on a limb today and joined us for his sake and his podcast, I do think Kansas winning helps your numbers. Yeah, what is better? What is better, Kansas winning? Watch, take, cry.

Yeah, we've got to doubt. That's easy. That's what you want. You want it. All right, well then, I'll bring it for Kansas. The last time you cried. Actually, I'll question. I think when I turned down weeknight, three years ago,

I got killed for it, and I wasn't laughing our face. What were you going to say, BFT? Well, I was going to say that I think you're in a bad position, because since Tate already won his national championship game, you're not going to get that same good nervous breakdown if they lose the title game. Because he's got this.

You really wanted him to lose last night. Yeah, but then I know. No, but we need to coach Kagon. This is the one thing that I have the most experience in. This is my expertise, my line of expertise, is knowing when to start rooting against your co-host to experience maximum heartbreak from where I was. The most listen-to show we've ever done at any rate.

We've had five different iterations of our show. The most listen-to show we ever did is when K lost his last game in Cameron, and people could not get enough of that. So I've been with the numbers. I don't know what we did last night. I think, though, here's the other thing. You don't want, the reason why PFT and I

worked so well for many other reasons, but one of the ones that you can actually say is neither of our teams are really good across the board. If we've had some success, you know, the Cubs won, the Nats won, the Caps won, but if we were... It's just a casual three championship. Six years over all major sports.

All right. Okay, but Hank is the winner. Hank is the winner. If one of us was just winning all the time, it would be like, the imbalance would be, you know what I mean? So if he wins this, he owns you. He owns me?

Oh yeah. He owns me? Oh, buddy, he owns you. When was the last time you won something? Dude, is this like a divide and conquer thing? No, I'm just trying to... We're trying to break you guys up. He owns you.

Cubs? Yeah. No, I personally carried Ohio State to a Final Four in 2007, so I kind of have that trump over here, you know? Yeah, that's true. I have a literal Final Four ring. You do a Final Four ring?

Yeah, I do have it. Does it still fit? It's way too big. I'm not kidding. I was going to say. Do you ever call him out, or are you ever like both of us? Yeah, I'm always fed.

Do you ever call him out or are you ever like, you never even played the game? At the high level. I do do that. I don't know what you're talking about. I tell him that he never played quarterback. Like, so you can't talk about Cal. You don't play quarterback in the NFL.

You can't talk about anything. You can talk about any sports. I want UNC to win, actually, just because I don't want Duke fans to have that one. Because then the conversation would literally be, oh yeah, we beat you on K's last game. And then what happened next? Yeah.

I... Job is over. I'm kind of with Steve. I'm kind of with Steve, and that Carolina Moneyline is the most fun that you can make, and it might be the smartest move, because I...

Kansas is better, obviously, but Baylor was better than Carolina. UCLA was better than Carolina. Duke was better than Carolina. St. Peter's. St. Peter's is better than Carolina. I mean, every step of the way Carolina has, I don't know, they're playing really well.

And as you said, Dan, like, Kansas, where they shoot, like 60% percent. It was insane. They made every shot. Yeah. Every shot. I think Leakey Black on Agbaji is a great matchup for Carolina.

Leakey Black was incredible last night. I think Baycott's better than McCormick. So, like, that's gonna be an advantage to Carolina, but I don't know. Kansas is better, so... I don't know. That's... So you're going Kansas?

I said I don't know about it. What if Gino was coaching Carolina? Now we're talking. And Sabin was coaching Kansas. Great. Okay. Okay. Great. Great. Great hypothetical.

What if Bob Coosie was playing 40 minutes for Kansas on Monday night? What would his stat line look like? What if you had a lot? What if you had a lot? Would it be Club Trillion? Club Snelf. How fucked up is it, by the way,

that the guy that invented basketball was he's the only coach at Kansas to have a losing record? Yeah. Like, he invented an entire sport and then sucked at coaching it. Yeah. Yeah. If Kansas beats Carolina, do you think Roy...

Switches? Are we gonna get a camera on Roy, do you think? He's gonna have the half jersey. One camera? Like, we're gonna have every view of him. Dude, every camera's on Coach K, dude. What are you talking about? Like, cameras on Roy...

Coach K's not gonna be there. Oh, he'll be there. They'll find a way to have a camera. Yeah, he'll come back. His essence will be there. Bill, I want a shot of Roy, though. The moment, if Kansas wins, the moment, like, all the confetti pops,

I want to see how Roy reacts, because I wonder if he's gonna clap. Yeah. Just, like, forget where he is for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Roy Williams, shit.

It is, yeah, it's Roy Williams. Do you think that there's any merit to the claim that I've been kind of making for the last few years that Roy Williams, at his time at UNC, was a better head coach than Coach K during that same time period? Is there any merit to Roy, at UNC, to be better at K?

Roy is the superior coach to Coach K during that time period. Yes. Like, all jokes aside, I actually believe it. If you look at the stats, you can't deny it. So does Steve. Yes. Steve, how many final fours?

The only thing I... Ah, Yukon's gonna tip off here against South Carolina. How many final fours do you think I say to that in the box? It is, you're basically just cutting out Coach K's greatest years, where he was... I get it. No, I'm just talking about...

No, I was talking about that earlier. Right, right. Coach K never even won the ACC. Right. Like, you want to... Yes, that's true. You can't even win the league. I've just been so hyper aware

of making sure all my Coach K slander arguments are like airtight, where like I don't, I don't deviate from anything that's not fact. I mean, I'll give you the stats right now until you like... No, I know, but a two-fam would be like, two-fam just caught out his best. Four titles, right?

Two-fam, three titles. Four titles, yeah. Oh, 15, probably better. The only thing Coach K has is he kept, he kept Roy Williams boxed out of the US Mint, the national team. Yeah, yeah. Wouldn't let him coach that.

Probably wouldn't get any gold medals. Coach for life. All right, random numbers. Guess, zero to 100. Zero. Six, Derek, what do you got? 18, 25, 30. Derek took jigsaw.

You gotta remember your numbers. 34. 12. 26. 5, 12. 12, no one's going high. No, go. 79.

55. Double nickel. Damn. I think KD had a double nickel last night, didn't he? Oh yeah? That's your boy, right? They lost it. It was like KD had 55, Kari had 31, and they lost.

Love you guys. Go Duke. I don't know what to say or say, did he wait? Today's another day to find you, shying away. Oh, I've been coming for your love, okay? Take on me. Needless to say, I'm odd to say this, but I'll be stolen away. Learn and learn, life is okay, say out to me.

It's the better to be safe than sorry. Take on me. All things that you say, all things that you say. All things that you say, all things that you say. All things that you say, yeah, he's incredible. Just to blame other ways away. You're all things I've got to remember. He's shying away.

I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take on me.