Pardon My Take - Colt McCoy, NFL Agent Sean Stellato, Eagles Lose On MNF, Rashard Mendenhall's Hypothetical + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: December 20, 2023

The Eagles lose to the Seahawks and Drew Lock finally has his moment. We talk MNF and what it means for the NFC playoff picture going forward (00:00:00-00:24:08). Rashard Mendenhall poses a hypothetical to twitter on an all black vs all white NFL game and everyone debates it (00:24:08-00:37:40). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including PMT getting cancelled yet again by the Swifties (00:37:40-01:07:48). Colt McCoy joins the show to talk about his career in the NFL, Texas being back, being a backup quarterback and more (01:07:48-01:49:32). We then are joined by Tommy Devito's agent Sean Stellato in studio on the day he's inducted into the Italian American Sports Hall of Fame to talk about his career, being Italian, Rocky, the book he wrote and more (01:49:32-02:24:27). We finish with guys on chicks (02:24:27-02:40:16).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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The Moxie King before we start, we should probably put our backpack on strap up, strap up, put our backpack on. What's the difference between the backpack and then the strap? That's seat belt. Seapel. Seapel belt and this is to secure the bag I know about you, but I was cool when I was a kid so he's a rock just one arm. Yeah, so I'd strap up like that I also used to take the seat belt put it behind me. That's pretty sick. Yeah real bad us. Yeah, we don't give a fuck Yeah, I'll do anything. Ah, Monday night football. It was a great game fellas a great game

It really was it was a fun game, fellas. A great game. It really was. It was a fun game. And, you know, like going into the game, there's a lot of talk about who's gonna play a quarterback for the Seahawks, would it be Gino Smith, would it be Drew Lock? Drew Lock had his Gino Smith moment. Yes.

Monday Night Football. The Seahawks are leading the league. Now they've got two quarterbacks that have, that was awesome interviews after a big Monday Night Football win. Yep. Drew Lock might take that he would make four pro-boles, which I said like four years ago,

three years ago on this program. Now it's at an all time high. I think it's even higher than it was when I said it at the time to be more likely. He's probably not gonna do that, but it's closer than it was yesterday. And it was cool to see Julak emotional after the game, not like with the whole GZ Swaggy guy,

just like a humble, thankful, almost in tears type of guy. When DK came up to him, you saw him like, dapp him up and he did the real life, Shaquille O'Neal, I owe you an apology young man. I was not familiar with your game. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool. It's cool to root for a story like that, Drew Lock.

The Seahawks season is saved where now they are still like neck and neck where they're tied at seven and seven with the Vikings and the Rams and the Saints. Yeah, Drew Lock, having that moment, having having everyone like, you know, talking about him. It also is nice because in the Drew Lock, Tom Herman, famous battle where Texas was back for a moment. And he did the backpack against Drew Lock's Mizzou team in that pole game. Tom Herman is now at FAU.

He's four and eight had a four and eight season Drew Locke has won the war. He killed Tom Herman. He killed Tom. Tom Herman. It was even had Joe Bach. Joe Bach was in his bag on Monday night. He had a couple times. He said, analytics says go to go for it, but that doesn't factor in Drew Locke, which is that was very funny. Zhu Locke kind of made him look stupid there. He also had a moment where he did the Dwight Howard Gordon Hayward tweet basically in real life, where he's like the Eagles are trying to win their first game without Big Dom on the sideline. He's looking, he's watching from up above. I saw that. Yeah.

That was very funny. I don't know. I don't know if he actually meant to say that he was dead or not. No, he was just kind of, yeah, big Don was up in the booth. Yeah. And joining some snacks up there. But yeah, Drew Lock, it was a great moment for Drew Lock, great moment for the Seahawks. It was weird how we, I don't remember a time when we had a game where we were like five minutes before kickoff and everyone was like, I don't know who's going to start tonight. Really for either team?

Yeah, I think it was a couple hours before that they said Jalen Hertz was actually gonna make the start But yeah, it was totally up in the air. This is the seventh straight Monday day football with an upset Yeah, which is crazy. That is good for football There was a moment there at the end of the game when I believe it was the Eagles driving and Pete Carroll used a timeout and No, no the Seahawks were driving Pete Carroll used a timeout for no, no, the Seahawks were driving. Pete Carol used a timeout for no real reason. And then Nick Seriani got a chance to look at the replay because they called the timeout.

Seriani throws the challenge flag. The Eagles win the challenge. And then after the challenge was over, Pete Carol was asking the roughs like, hey, do I get my timeout back? Yeah, right. Afterwards, and Seriani looked at him and he goes, what the fuck are you doing?

No, fuck you. No, you don't get it. But yeah, Pete Carol was like, please, it's like a kid that gets sent to timeout and he goes what the fuck are you doing? No, fuck you don't get but yeah, Pete. It was like please it's like a kid that gets sent to time out and he's like can I bring my game boy to time out? Yeah, I know mistake. No, you fucked up. Yeah, fucked up Pete and Yeah, the the Drew Lock drive at the end of the game I think everybody had the same thought which was too much time of the clock for Drew Too much time for Drew Lock and he just started feeding the ball to DK and DK went bully mode on everybody DK that one catch was, I mean, it was insane.

Yeah. How he ended up catching that ball. Yeah. And he, DK was like, he had, he had basically nothing for the first three quarters, showed up when it mattered. Jackson Smith and the jigsaw is awesome. Yeah. It was good for the sea ox.

It's fun when the sea ox are rocking. That stadium's rocking. Drew Locke has his moments. It's fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Pete Carroll wearing the backwards hat at the podium after the... Yeah, he put forget how old Pete Carroll is. He's so old.

He looks better than like most of the 40 year olds that I know. He's the oldest by age and the youngest by like spirit. Yeah, he is. He really is like a lost boy. He's forever 21. Yeah. We also had some discourse last night. Okay.

Regarding the Tush push. Yeah. And whether or not they're gonna ban it. I've actually I've come like Oh, we haven't done this yet. I've come full circle on the Tush push Now I kind of want the Tush push band just so that we can stop debating whether or not the Tush push is gonna be banned Yeah, I'm sick of it and also Jason not sick to play to be clear the place should say I'm just sick of people debating whether the place should be gone. Jason Kelsey got flagged for moving the ball forward before the push push, which he's been doing forever. It decided I do think that it is funny. The refs like they got so much blowback from the chiefs in the clarius Tony thing where they

just been calling everyone off sides for a week and a half. Yeah. They're like, no, see, we call it all the time. We're going to take you out back and make you smoke a whole pack of offside. See how much you've done. Yeah. And I have a question, though. Okay. Max, do you regret making this game a must win because you lost a must win? Yes.

They lost a must run. So the season's over. The Eagles will not be winning the Super Bowl this year. Oh, no. Oh, season over. Oh, no, put out the press clippings. The Eagles. And now Max also said that he's not going to get angry today. Correct. And he's not going to talk. He's going to pull a hank.

I'll talk. I'll talk when you need me to talk. Okay, great. So that's already out the window. Max is also we were debating putting Max on the couch. I think Max is better when he's in behind the glass. Like a gorilla, Harambe, RIP, at the zoo, where he can get a little bit more aggravated when he's behind the glass and that's separating us. Yeah, so you ever seen a dog behind a fence when you walk by in the yard and they just start barking at you and then you open up the fence gate and they just snuggle and just rub up against you.

That's Max. I have some questions from Max. Yes. He sees, questions for max. Yes. Is it tasty? Hey, do you have any questions for max? Yeah, I have a few. Okay. I think why should you take the question? You started doing A.

How should you start? Well, we have some questions. Don't get mad. I'm not mad. But if you do get mad, that's okay, because you're behind the glass. I'm not mad. Do you think if Marcus Mario to start that game, the Eagle score a touchdown? What the fuck? I'm not mad. Do you think if Mark is Mario to start that game, the Eagle score a touchdown? Hmm. What the fuck, kind of question. No, mad.

He'd score a touchdown. He throws a touchdown. They actually did score a touchdown. Yeah, they did score a touchdown. And Jalen, next question. Next question. Oh, your next question.

I mean, that was so dumb. Next question. He did score two touchdowns. Yes. Okay, what's the best start? All right, let me, Hank, we'll go, we'll just go around the horn with questions. Max, you've talked a lot about the touchdown.

He ran for two. He didn't pass any touchdowns. It was a, it was a whiff on the first card. All right, that's fine. We'll come back around to you. It's okay. Max, there's been a lot of talk about the defense. Defense actually played pretty well last night.

When are you gonna finally say that the offense is also a problem? Offense, big problem. Big problem, okay. So, and when are you gonna ask the question, is Jalen Hertz the guy? Yes. Okay. So, you don't have to ask questions. Why do you think hurts? The guy? Uh, yes. Okay. So you don't have to ask question. Why do you think he's the guy?

I think he's proven enough to this point of his career that he's still the guy. He had a very bad game last night. He hasn't looked right all year. Is he himself this year? I don't think so. He may not be himself. Would you still suck his dick right now?

That there was a moment where I would, but not currently. He's not playing well enough or because he's sick. He is sick. Yeah, that's why. So that's why. Safety, safety, health and safety is number one. Always comes number one. He's not playing good football right now.

He's turning the ball over too much. He was probably too sick to play last night, although I don't understand how sickness could account for why the fuck you would throw that ball. Quest walkins. Or the deep, or at the end of the game. Yeah. Kenneth Gainwell was wide open right in front of you to get 15 yards and give Jake Elliott a shot to put it to overtime.

And then you just throw in a deep ball to In the double coverage that has no chance of ever getting caught and if it does get caught You're still in the same position as if you were to just do a checkdown and go 20 yards Yeah Max I was watching Jalen Hurts last night. I was thinking myself you could talk this up to an illness game Mm-hmm like the flu game. Yeah, but I won but then, but then he just wasn't good at throwing the ball. He was still really good at rushing the ball. He had, offense looks just clunky. He had 82 yards rushing.

It's just, I don't think they, it's all good to play on you. I don't know if you can chalk that one up to him being sick. I, I didn't. Yeah. Shane Stuykin, actually, she get coached the year by virtue of how bad the Eagles offense. Correct. It's a good point. Yeah.

Max, another question. You tweeted James Bradbury must have had the worst final drive in the history of football there. Can you think of any other drives that James Bradbury maybe made a big mistake? This was worse than the super boy. He was targeted on every. In the super boy. He was worse than the super boy.

That wasn't. I don't think you should have called that play. He was worse than the Superbowl. That wasn't I Don't think you should have called that play. This was the Superbowl I get the Superbowl But like I don't think you get the Superbowl I get the Superbowl. I guess last night was a must win and Max never said the Superbowl was a must win Yeah, would you make the Superbowl? Superbowl was a must win lost a must win there too So you're I think you're actually 0 for 5. Yeah No, it's all prevented if you had made this a can't lose. No, get back. That's something. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. You're on question.

Hank's band from questions. What was his foot down at the end? I don't care about another thing. Don't care about even if his foot wasn't down. You're still have six seconds left. And you still need to get 20 yards and kick a field goal Like the chances of even if even if that wasn't an interception the chances of them winning that game We're so astronomically low because he made the decision to make that throw in the first place So I don't give a fuck about that interception and I hate that people were talking about it Like it was a big deal because it didn't matter

They were losing that game whether that was called an interception or not And you're not mad and I'm not mad, but I'm just let I'm just speaking about it like it was a big deal because it didn't matter. They were losing that game, whether that was called an interception or not. And you're not mad. And I'm not mad, but I'm just speaking emotionally. So are you worried about the future? Yeah. I mean, I was, everyone's getting old. Yeah.

Oh, windows. I'll see, do we do a little harder? Jalen Carter though, Jalen Carter was so good. Window talk. Window talk. Was that the window last year? No, the window continued into this year, but the coaching has been fucking horrible. I mean, sir, you're ruining a window.

Yeah, this was a window ruining year. What's an ideal record for the rest of the season? Another stupid question. They're not gonna lose another game. Yeah. Here's the thing about the... Oh, yeah, you got some people dying on time. Another stupid question. They're not gonna lose another game. Yeah. Here's the thing about the... Oh! Oh yeah, you might...

You got some people dying on dying crime going on. You have to put Big Dom back on the sideline. This thing that racked Tommy DeVito. Well, I have a staff for you, Max. Since Big Dom has... So before Big Dom got kicked off the sideline, the Eagles were 10 and one. Since Big Dom has been kicked off the sideline, they're 0 and 3 at being outscored 74 to 43. How does that affect the play calling?

Well, I mean, big Dom obviously, big factor to that sideline. Did you see AJ Brown last night? Yeah, he got in the face of a Seahawks Pipsqueak. But after he was bumped by a member of the staff on the sideline. Yeah. But the game should probably be thrown out. But again, anti-attalion discrimination once again.

I agree with that. I sure did. How do you know that guy wasn't a talent? That guy wasn't a talent. There are no Italians in Seattle. Fact. Okay. So Max, looking at the rest of your season,

you're probably gonna go on three. I hope you go on three. Because if you you don't then yeah, you're right season over Wait, I'm sorry. Sorry. Sorry. We're three and now three and now you're gonna you're gonna win all three games I'm pretty sure you're gonna win all three games. Yeah, is the division now a must win for you guys. Oh It doesn't matter this team sucks. They're not gonna do anything Do you really think that that fucking They're not going to do anything. Do you really think that that fucking... Do you really think that that football team

can go into Seattle and win a game in the playoffs? No, I mean, you might go out to Tampa Bay. Or not Seattle, San Francisco. Okay, no. No, no. There's no chance. No. Like, who cares?

That was the thing about last night. It really doesn't change anything, anything of the actual season. They were gonna get the two seed anyway. The Niners are gonna be the Ravens this weekend. Even if they even if it does, it doesn't make a big difference because the question is when your division could that team beat the 49ers team with no quarterback? I don't know right now. I don't think they can question Hank. No, Sam. No, Sam Darnell would beat the fuck out of this team. No, but no quarterback. No quarterback. It happened before. Yeah. The only reason that again, they're good enough to do that again. I don't know. No, this team sucks. This team can't beat anyone. Wow.

Do we need to go back and think like were the Eagles ever actually really good? Or did they just beat a San Francisco team with no quarterback. Wow. No, no. So they were never. They might never have been good. They were. They were a faulty holding play away from a super bowl last year.

Now it's faulty. Oh, it's faulty. Um, yeah, the, the, the craziest part about this Eagles team is like the defense has been bad and it completely covered up for the fact that the offense has not looked right in a long time. Long time. Yeah. Matt Patricia, look. He, he, the, the defense of game plan was better last night than it has been in a while.

I really want you to have a pencil in your ear going forward, especially with the way the defense is playing. They played well last night. James Bradbury is such a joke. Just an absolute. I'm gonna give you a joke. It's just an absolute. I'm gonna give you one last chance to take back your tweet. No. Okay. I mean, he got targeted five times, five receptions, 92 yards.

Tsh. One drive. That's pretty bad. Not great. What about your running game? Because I felt like Swift looked pretty good last night for the most part. Yeah. The running game looked better. Lane Johnson with an ultimate bounce back. Yeah, that was crazy.

You were like flash before you were dead. Yeah, that's how he was dead like flash before your eyes. Yeah, that he was dead. That comes back one play. Like that was a window closing right there when he starts screaming on the ground. And you're like, oh shit, his legs broken, his ankles broken. That would have been like dead dead. You did dead dead, but he came back dead dead. And now you're like dead dead alive. Are you barely life like Jesus life support alive? Uh, okay Max. Well, yeah, it's I'm sad because it feels like you'll still get up for the playoffs So yeah, they're gonna win. They're gonna be fucking Tommy to veto by like 30 next week And I'm gonna be all the way back and then they're gonna play whoever in the second round of the playoffs The giants and cardinals back to back

Yeah, it's a it's a cardinal sandwich. It's Giants Cardinals Giants, right? This is seasoned over if you lose any of those games. The season's already over, he said. Is a must win that he lost. He lost a must win. Season over. Season's over. Their offense looks like shit.

Jalen Hertz. He just, he like, if he doesn't see it, he just runs out of the pocket and then just throws it out of bounds. I feel like that happens every time. Every single play happens like that. It's a lot of throwaways. You say, you're headed for max. Yes.

Like if the Patriots are tentative for and going through this, I would be fighting back and you're just giving it. Yeah, he'd be talking a lot after a three game losing. It's also the Patriots. I would say the QB was sick. He's gonna get healthy. We made it to the Super Bowl last year. We know what we need to do to make it.

You would have said that. Surviving advantage. Now this is the difference between us Patriots fans and Eagles fans. We got championship DNA, championship pedigree. We know that the haters are coming at us right now, but these games are only max the only games that should matter to you as a winning franchise Should start in January get right before the playoffs. Yeah. This is the time to get right. It's a good wake up call. It's a great wake up call.

You're gonna have three wake up calls in a row. You're gonna have, yeah, you've had a lot of wake up calls. It's like you're hung over now. But one of them doesn't count because you're Kibu's sick. Are you worried that you're one in four ever since Nick Sireani or one in three ever since Nick Sireani came off the field in Kansas City and said how you like that shit? Yeah, Nick Sireani's slowly turning into a massive they're not He's whatever a massive whatever

I When it wait if the losses start happening Nick Sierrani looks different What no there's a lot of discourse in my in my Eagles group chats talking about what the fuck Nick Cereon he actually does I'm not saying that but other people are what if is he a system head coach? I don't know the coordinators. It's like it's it's either Sean it's Sean decides fault or Brian Johnson's fault Why why the offense looks better why the defense looks bad? What is a head coach to max? I have a fix for you So the offense looks bad, what does the head coach do? Max, I have a fix for you. So the offense looks really bad. You have a former offensive coordinator that come,

they can fix it right away. I know you're, he was already asked, will there be any changes to the, to the offensive play calling? You said no, wait, that'll be so fun. Who are you talking about? Nick Serriotti said that. No, yeah, but who, who are you talking about? Who could fix it?

Frank, right? Oh, no, I was talking about Matt Patricia. No. It'd be very funny if they had Matt Patricia being offence and defensive coordinator at the same time. And then Nick Sierraoni, just a guy that like plays rocky videos. Wait, so you don't want Matt Patricia

to help with the offense? No. Look what he did to the defense. Defense looks like that. The rocket science. You guys were being mean about the defense. So it's Josh Dobbs and he has 17 turnovers. You know who else has 17 turnovers?

Jalen Hertz. Oh, tied with Josh Dobbs. Tied with Josh Allen. Should we be keeping that same energy for Jalen Hertz that we have for Josh Allen? He's out of my top five. Oh, is he? Yeah.

Yeah, no longer elite. No longer elite. Top five is as far as my homes. Alan, Purdy, Lamar, No longer elite top five is as as follows my homes Alan Party Lamar Burrow Well, no, he's hurt

He's hurt. I still take Baker tweeted. Why did you use a sixth? I don't like the way you counted I did I did count like this. You counted to four and then you used. That was weird. That was weird. That was really weird. If we're going just based off this week in the NFL, you have to put Baker in your top five. Yeah.

Yeah, you might put Drew Locke in your top five. No, Burles in there, but he's hurt. What? Tell him right now. Think about this. Drew Locke just beat a guy that's in your top five. How is he not in your top five? Oh, no longer in my top five.

It's not in my eyes. It's because he got beaten. Yeah. We're gonna make a graph of your top five. Jail and Heard's no longer in my top five. It's a good graph. Yeah. Can I be honest? I would suck a dick for Jail and Heard's. I don't know if I'd do that anymore.

I would maybe hand job. But suck a dick. Suck it. Spit no swallow. I don't think so, suck it, spit no swallow. I don't think so, man. There's something off. And he's got all the weapons and offensive lines. Great, it might be play calling.

Maybe they just are earning a rut. I don't know. He has not looked himself this year. Why many interceptions you said? Well, he has 17 turnovers. Turnovers, yeah. I don't know how that breaks down with interceptions, but yeah, 17 turnovers that ties him

with Josh Dobbs, Josh Allen, and Sam Howe. What if the Super Bowl was Jalen Hertz peak? It might have been. That's the same idea. Sometimes you don't even know that the window's closing until after it's shut. It's real shame. I'm not going to say what I was going to say.

It's like the bears. Last week. When the window was open for like four days. And now it's shut. Because you're pro. It goes by that fast. Four days and three quarters. It goes by that fast.

You're probably gonna lose Kelsey in this off season, right? He's probably gonna retire. You could lose Lane in the old. Lane could retire. So Fletcher Cox, Brandon Graham. Fletcher Cox, you're retired. Brandon Graham. Jesus.

I mean, Lane could retire. He was talking about retiring before last year or at the end of last year. Big don for a job. Big don might retire. Big don might retire. Big don. Big don. Big don. Big don man. Big don. He's going, he's going, he's dying in the streets or in jail. I mean, after, after only two ways, we go out. Well, there's only two ways we go out in this life. Not him. He's back for the playoffs, playoffs by the way It's only regular season suspension. Oh, I see you might be back on yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be great for momentum Yeah, huge huge all right to Tampa Bay. You don't think that you could beat the bucks on the road Shut up What what what I'm trying to help you up Max. I do think that okay? All right, so like what is that is that a successful season? I don't know

I'm just trying to meeting the box in the first round of the play one play at a time max You're talking about playoff. I know and I'm talking like the seasons over I'm 10 and four looking at the playoff. I think you'd lose the must win They're only one of three teams in the NFL to clinch a playoffs, but you know many teams would die to be in the playoffs right? I will lose your talk. Yeah, he's a loser. Everyone keeps saying lose. I have to sound forward. Yeah, I also would like to say.

You say it again with the camera on you. No, come on. No, please. Please. Please, I just said it. I just said it. I'm not I'm not I'm not you just like the you just like to poke me. I'm not I'm just asking you to say it again I do feel like I'm in his zoo I'm a zoo animal

All right, let's talk something else Jake can you clean up after max after this is over? Richard Mendenhall had everyone talking on Twitter X because he basically said that white gau, guys can't, uh, have an opinion on, on football anymore. I've got the direct quote. I said, direct quote. I'm sick of average white guys commenting on football. Sounds like he's been listening to part of my take.

Yep. You're not even good at football. Can we please replace the pro bowl with an all black versus all white ball? So these cats can stop trying to teach me who's good at football. I'm better than your goat. He actually has a great idea. Now the ratings for this game would be off the chart. Off the chart.

I think everybody would tune into this. The problem would be you get some people rooting just like a little bit too hard for their side. And there were there were what he tweeted this. There were some people who had the all white roster way too quickly. Yeah, like wait, you've been thinking about it. You've been thinking about it. Listen, he's like, here's our offensive line.

And we got all the tight ends like, whoa shit. I had to think about it for a second. Offensive line would be stacked. We'd have like tight ends. Almost all the Eagles offensive line. I actually have a theory that Recharb Menon Hall might be, he might actually be doing this in favor of Christian McCaffer getting the MVP because when he put this out there, I think we all had the same reaction.

We went through it. I, you know, the role of Dex in your head. And like, Christian McCaffer is the guy you're like, yeah, we got him difference maker. We have a share. Literally the best player in the NFL, right? Christian McCaffer is so good at that. He could make an all white team beat in all black. Yeah, he's, he, his MVP case takes it, gets a huge bump

because like a bunch of white dudes are walking around on the internet being like, you forgot about Christian McCaffrey? I had a different thought initially. My, my first thought was Patrick Mahomes all-time quarterback. Yeah, both sides. Or if you, if there's a draft, which could get very problematic, very fast. Oh, the whole thing would be, I, I. Yeah, both sides or if you if there's a draft, which could get very problematic very fast. Oh, the whole thing would be I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I feel like we're stacked. Stacked. I think Darren Waller would probably start. We're stacked. To the black team. We have Kittle Kelsey, Hockinson, we get Porta, we get Tassam Hill in it, full back. Tassam Hill. And then Tibo. Tibo would be great.

Dude, Tibo would ball out. You know who would ball out in this game would be the Boses. Yeah. This would be the Boses. And Riley Cooper. Riley Cooper put it, bring him back for one last round. We'd have to recruit Julian Edelman to come back to play one game at cornerback for us.

Yeah, otherwise we're fucked. No, we need Cooper to Jean. Cooper to Jean and there was Riley Moss who was also cornerback at Iowa who's on the Broncos now. We're basically playing Iowa football. We're just gonna punt the ball. The only off in corner, only fair way to do this. Well, kicking's a huge advantage. Not as much as you think, because I crunched the numbers.

We got Justin Tucker and then Justin Reed Would be the kicker for the all black team He was the guy that made that fuel goal for the Texans in spot duty. Well, no, what about the paint? Oh, yeah, fuel goals. We have the puncher for the steel. Yeah, Harvin for the Steelers would punt But Reed also is a just in our Jason Reed one of the two anyways He I think he kicked a 60 yard fuel goal in practice for the chiefs last year. So he's actually pretty good. The real issue is at wide receiver.

We're, well no, we're pretty, no. Pretty thin at wide receiver. The real issue is our entire secondary. It's a very fun hypothetical. And I do think people, like the majority of the internet had fun with it. There was a few people who were like, this is intense, shut the fuck up.

It's a fun, stupid hypothetical that, like like you can't tell me that every NFL locker room hasn't had this debate before It once you get to secondary. It's like oh man Well that we might we we're gonna have to we're gonna have to control the clock We're gonna have to run the ball run the ball run the ball. I don't think we can I don't think we can be letting our defense out there for very long. That's, that's what I mean when it comes to the wide receiver being the difference maker because they're going to have Tyree kill. Yeah. And there's nobody that can guard Tyree kill in the NFL right now. And now we're going to have to ask a, a college, a college punt returner to put the clamps on Tyree kill. She have to hit him at the line. The other solution is they have to start Cudari's Tony.

And then maybe we get a couple points off and interception off of Drop Pass. You get pressure on the quarterback. Or just sack every play. Yeah, I just don't think, yeah, our secondary would, we would over, over two seconds, our secondary can't hold up. Can't do it.

I just gotta play a deep, deep zone and just keep everything ahead of you and Make them go down the field hoping they don't get sacked at least once with like a we're gonna have to get a lot of stripsacks Play yeah play prevent the defense and then on our defensive line We've got we got a lot of good pass rushers. We got TJ what both boasts We have max cross B. We have Trey Hendrickson and Not a lot of interior depth maybe eight in Hutchinson can play what was what is what do we do about Vita? He I think there's a small in team is okay the small in team would probably win every day would win everything yeah for sure It was fun though fun hypothetical and we also had a Antonio Browne. It was a day of Steelers just

Tweeting random things online. Yeah, Antonio Brown said that hotel sex hit different Not everywhere not on the TV Everywhere everywhere as one does like you got a you I wouldn't put a passive. He was just like hold on babe. I'm about to not get me the TV. He take it off the wall for me. He probably watches porn and he thinks that he's actually like nutting on the person. His laptop. POV porn. Yeah, his laptop's just covered in a thin film. Yeah.

At least it's not nutting on the remote control. Yes. That would be worse. TV is still weird. TV is still strange. Still a little weird, but also would you expect anything less? No, probably nuts on the TV when he's on TV. Yeah. Watching his old highlights of like stomping a browns punner out. This, this, I like the fact that the, uh, the debate was brought up by Richard Mindenhall. Yeah. And not say Toby Gerhardt.

Yeah. Or as you said, Riley Cooper. Yeah. Or a white guy. Will Compton. Or Will Compton initiating this debate. Will's video is very funny. Yeah.

Um, I, I, I'm happy to have this debate in like a fun way, and not in a like serious way, but there's some people getting very, very serious and prideful about who to win this. That's what I was saying. They probably shouldn't ever play this game, because the tailgate and fights in the stands, it would be bad. This is, if you want to destroy America, this is how you start a

Civil War II. Yeah. No, people, and it's very funny too, people man-splaining like two other football players, like how could you even entertain this debate? Yeah. Like someone was like said to JJ Wat, you're just ignoring the blatant racism for this. God forbid a white guy stands up for himself. And JJ want was just like dude. You don't need to be offended. He said white guys can't play football and I looked myself in the mirror. I was like, wait, I can play football. He's like, he's having fun on the internet.

Yeah. Fun. I also think can you imagine if they did college game day before the game and then Lee Corsow put on the mascot head? That would be a problem. That would be very funny. Yeah. I would like that.

We should, can we sim this game? Can we can we build well? Well, Shuk is our guy Chak who works here. I miss red. So Chak is actually getting married in a couple of weeks. And I was scrolling through Twitter this morning and I saw Chak's tweet saying, anybody on here good with creating custom rosters for Madden needs some help getting around salary cap issue. DMs open. So I pulled check in my office And I like literally was like dude like respect like you're about to get married and all you care about is your fucking madden franchise

He's like no, I'm trying to make the roster. Yeah, we should we should do the game who's on it. I think what's the spread? I think I have Do we call it all blacks? I that's what he said that's also who's dealing rugby team. Yeah, right? It's like confusion. I'm going to take the Zealand rugby team. Yeah, right. It's like confusion I'm going to take the African American team and they're gonna lay I'm gonna say 25 No, I'm gonna say 14 and a half. I would say 12 and a half and if it gets to 14 I'm hammering the all whites Yeah, no, I think the control the ball control the possession a weakness I'm declaring weakness is a glaring weakness. Yeah, no, It is it's also might have I don't know how like that. It's like it's all you know

It's funny to debate and hypothetical. Maybe there's ways to scheme it But like it was also like it might have also been Jason Seahorn just hitting Sean men to haul up and being like here like just do this hypothetical real quick So everyone can remind everyone that I was the last white corner back 20 years ago. Yeah, who's the coach? I feel like Belice check would be the natural fit, right? Yeah, that's basically his wide receiver room anyway. I mean, Tomman would definitely Tom Mike McDaniel. Yeah, people forget Dan Campbell is it a high scoring game? It's high scoring game kind of on Dan Campbell If it's one game to unite all the players. Yeah, crew'm crew they're going to listen to, I guess, but any bell check.

But yeah, Dan Campbell would be a good leader. I think just scream at it because you have to you have to sit down before the game and be like nobody believes in you. Right. No one. Look at the look how and do you think it'd be high scoring Jake? I would say the. So it will be like 52.

Yeah, so you can't. You can't say a couple things if you're talking about betting on this game. You can't say I'm gonna hammer the old black team and you can't say white team wins in a shootout. You can't do that. I think you can say that. What's even wins in a shootout? Yeah, maybe just delete that one. No, I mean, that's listen, it's all in context. We're talking about football. Yeah, we're talking about football right now. It's fun, hypothetical.

Men and all, I don't know where. Men and Hall's got some all-time tweets too. Yeah, he does. Remember when Ben Laden died? Yeah. And he tweeted out like, it's funny to see a lot of you guys celebrating a man's death. There's two sides to every story.

Yeah. It's also because we for all the facts. Come out on this guy. Ben Laden. Even, even will, I mean, we'll play in the league. So it's like people that get mad at him. It's like I played in the league. This is what we talk about. And men thought it was tweeting a picture of him with a super bowl. No, actually, it wasn't a super bowl. Men in whole two AFC championship. People were yelling at him about like, Hey, you know, and then he tweeted out a picture to dunk on people of him holding the AFC championship trophy in the air. And then a lot of people were responding with his fumble in the Super Bowl, which was caused by one of the, one of

the all pro whites, Clay Matthews. Okay. The only other thing I had for before we get to hot sea cool throne, I got a little QB, uh, column A, column B, blind resume. You want to do it? Yeah. Okay. You ready? First 48 career starts record for QB, uh, one, 20 and 28 record for QB two, 19 and 29, pass a rating for, uh, one 85.5 pass a rating for QB two 85.4 pretty much the same past past touchdowns Interception 55 to 35 55 to 33 Both had 12,000 yards 12,000 yards both 6.7 yards per attempt. Okay, who's QB one who's QB two? I think they were pretty even, right? Yes. Almost exactly.

Yes. Hmm. I'm gonna say the two QBs, not in each order, Trevor Lawrence and Justin Fields. No. Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones. But I also saw the Trevor Lawrence just in fields when going around. And my point is Trevor Lawrence is starting to feel the heat. He is starting to get blind resume a lot.

He is. I still think he'll be fine, but we have the expectation for Trevor Lawrence because he never lost and never lost. Trevor Lawrence gets the benefit of being playing in Jacksonville, media, not his harsh. And also the Jaguars are, I don't think I'm like being hurtful to Jaguars fans, a loser organization. So he gets a little bit more leeway,

but once you see the blind resumes, it's like, oh, here comes the narrative changing, shifting on you. It's like the first sign. If you see a random blind resume for your quarterback, you gotta stop yourself and be like, wait a second. Why are a bunch of accounts doing this? Why am I getting blind resume?

Yeah. Trevor Lawrence, when he was brought into the league, they asked him about playing in a small market. He had a great answer for it. He said, actually Jacksonville is the biggest market if you're talking about total area of the city. He's a weird dude. It's got more miles in it than the other NFL city.

Yeah. He's a strange guy. He's a strange guy. I think he should get a neck tattoo. He just become his brother slowly. Well, no, his brother's more like artsy-fartsy. Yeah, it's like an artist. Are you thinking neck tattoo is in like hard,

like a mechanic? Yeah. Yeah. I used to sell cars with a guy who had a neck tattoo and his neck tattoo just said the word money on it right across the front of his neck. I like that. That's tough if you're going to a car dealership.

And you're like, I hope I don't get fucked over by a salesman on this deal. And he has a neck tattoo that says money going across. I like that a lot. Yeah, I like that a lot. But yeah, Trevor Lawrence, the first time you get blind resume, I'm just saying, it's always the sign that something's up.

It's like a squirrel with like a fluffy tail and you're like, we're gonna have a bad winter. Yeah. A blind resume is like, hey, the narrative is shifting here. He might also just need to cut his hair. Could cut his hair? No long-haired quarterback has ever won a Super Bowl. People forget that.

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Um, hot sea is enl-rata. Okay. Bonk. Who's that? Emily Rattagowski, she's an actress podcast. Don't play dumb. I'm not familiar with the game. She had kind of like standing courtside tickets to next games. Whatever she wanted to go. She would get compact courtside tickets. She left. They had a comeback 21 point win against the heat. Wait, she was on the wood. She was on the wood.

She left in the middle of the game and then the middle of the in the middle of a comeback. And then she tried to get tickets for Rangers game and she was told she could not get comp tickets, she could not get comp tickets for Rangers or Nix games, but she could buy tickets whenever she wants. Okay, so I kind of respect James Dolan for.

James Dolan is petty. He's the petty. He's the pateous person in the entire world. He bans everybody. He had like facial recognition software put in on the security cameras. And then people's pictures that he had personally banned from games, uploaded to the system.

So they'd be able to tell when they were in his building. Cackeler. Cack, what? Remember? Yeah, Rob Porter. Oh, okay. I thought you said James Dolen kill to Catt. No, no, I'm sorry.

Not that we know of. He flipped out though. So yeah, and Charles Oakley. Yep. And all of us actually. Yeah. So me and Big Cat, we're gonna host a show at one of his properties in New York

had nothing to do with the garden. And don't only got word of it and was like, nope, they're not welcome inside these doors. Yeah, no, he's a petty kid. It was the thing with the standup trying to find a venue too because he like owns all the places in Vegas. That's why we couldn't book the sphere.

Right. There's also a chance he just might be doing like that. That's a nice cool sphere. Yeah, the sphere. I was just giving out mushrooms to everyone. What if we got the sphere and we turn the entire picture into just that one post workout pick of hell? Incredible. Incredible.

Um, I, he also James Owen just might be doing like, uh, like fifth grade B mean to the hot girl thing. Oh, yeah, good work. Yeah, put gum in her hair. You're not allowed here anymore. Yeah. Sorry. He has a boys club. And now I'm right. Rada is like, Oh man, James Don. He's so mean to me, but like, it's kind of funny. Yeah, every other guy in the world is trying to get me onto their wood. Yeah. And James Dolen is throwing me off his... Yes, yes.

Yeah. And then... And then in like a week, you have a walk back where you're like, you know what, we're gonna unband Imrat from this building. And then it's gonna be Imrat night. And I'm going to have to host. And so I'm going to show you all around taking on tour of the facilities. Yeah, listen up. I'm coming around a little bit on old James Dolan. He is funny. His

Kazoo band is not, it's not the worst Kazoo band I've ever heard of my life. He's one of those owners that you would never want to be your owner, but from afar he's very funny. Yeah. Yeah. Then my cool throne was it was healthy debate with the all white first all black team I also John Moran is back. Oh yeah that was going to be my I tried to find apparently don't have offers or like markets for NBA come back player of the year but I was curious if he was on there. What's he coming back from guns from having a gun addicted Addicted to guns. He loves guns. He does. Yeah. I'm rooting for him. Yeah, come, I think I think I,

it's a very simple process. You should when it come back. All he has to do is not be filmed in an Instagram live holding a gun. I'm rooting for him to play well, come back, everything go well. I'm also kind of rooting for him to flash another gun on his scrim.

All right, it's funny. It's funny to me. It's kind of the James Dolan thing. Where like, it's kind of funny. If he just keeps going, it gets funnier and funnier. Like a bigger gun. Right, it was like RPG. It was like, oh, this is a problem the first couple of times

and then it was like, wait, he literally can't stop doing this now It's kind of funny. I think I don't want anyone to get hurt It pulls up. Yeah, yeah, it would be great if he just became a big second amendment guy Yeah, and he was doing I mean, he's already doing like the front facing car selfie videos Right, if you just use my rights he openly says like I'm here to protect myself Correct as the good Lord gave us and the second amendment. Yeah, I don't want him shooting anyone. I don't want anyone to get hurt. I just want him to just like keep making all the NBA like writers have in like people online have a have a serious talk about John Merant holding a gun. Also, it hasn't John Merant done more to raise awareness about gun safety

and the dangers of gun use. Sure. Then every NBA player that hasn't shown a gun on Instagram live multiple times. We're having the conversation because we are. We are. We are. I'll see you see the leakers put up a banner. So that's gonna be my shit. That was gonna be another one. So far I've had three of my hot seats cool threads.

Okay, that's right. Do you have bowl game collapses on there? I had that. No, I didn't have a bowl game, but I saw ODE. ODE was up 28 nothing and lost. They were not only up 28 nothing. They Western Kentucky put in their third strangers and they blew a 28 nothing lead

and then got a field goal blocked in regulation with like three minutes left. And then in overtime ODE was on the one yard line, couldn't score Didn't got a penalty. They got another field goal blocked. It was Bowl games I might be out of bowl games. I might I love bowl games and I say this and I'll probably bet it tonight I love bowl games But it causes so much pain at this time of year to watch these teams play

Means nothing and the swings the ups and downs. It was quite it was quite an experience like it right at like four o'clock when you're like I shouldn't be watching this bowl game. I have way too much money riding on on players that don't know and transfer portals everyone's I'm probably gonna take let's see Marshall tonight. I'm in a weird situation this year where now I have a can't miss bowl game with my team for the first time ever. Yeah. And it's happening like was it Saturday?

That's the 23rd. Mm-hmm. All of it's going to be around family. They've never had to deal with the excuse of, hey, I need to be checked out of this family get together because my team is playing in a bowl game before. Do you need them to, JMU is different though than work. Do you need them to...

Yeah. Like, at least it's easier to be like on my college team bowl game. Do you need them to talk to my entire family? Cause that's all Wisconsin games? No, every game. No, but I mean like... Literally every game. I'm like, I'm sorry guys.

I'm gambling on bowl game. You are a good example of like this could be way worse. Yeah, no, all my memories of like this two week stretch in the calendar is just like what bowl games happen. Yeah, sorry I'm going home for only two and a half days, one of which I'm gonna be watching a JMU game and then I'm flying back on Christmas day to do the part of my take podcast.

It could be so much worse and then just have a live stream of Big Cat just gambling the entire week. Yeah, yeah. That's not a bad strategy actually. Yeah. I mean, listen, I love this time of year. I hate this time of year, but I love this time of year. PFT, there's also NFL Saturdays, so you can say it's work. There you go.

NFL Saturdays work, but then I'm going to go to a place that has two TVs. Yeah. Yeah. This is going to be, I'm going to but then now I'm gonna have to go to a place that has two TVs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. This is gonna be, I'm gonna have to pull an all-time, just excuse type of weekend. I'm gonna have to be on my A game. Mm-hmm. Okay, what do you got your hot seat called for? My hot seat is the University of Georgia because they lost Star Quarterback, Dylan Riello,

and he committed yesterday to the University of Nebraska. So his father went. So the corn huskers are back. The Georgia fans didn't do a very good job of preventing his plane from taking off from Athens and flying up to Lincoln to Nebraska. So he was able to commit to Nebraska. And then he, he announced his intention with an all-time poem. Did you read his poem?

Yeah, it was kind of like an Andrew Dice Clay without any offensive things in it. You kept waiting for him to be like, Oh, yeah, I did, I read it because I don't, I thought it was a joke when I saw it. I did too. I thought it was a troll. In the realm of college dreams where purpose takes flight,

I don't know what that means, purpose taking flight. Yeah. Sounds like a Sean McVeigh, or a Sean McDermott preseason speech. Enter Dylan Réola, crafting his narrative in the night, once lured by Georgia, where powerhouse glory gleamed.

That's good alliteration right there. Yeah. Yet Nebraska's purpose in his heart brightly beamed. This is so like, in the Scarlet and Cream. Is that so like, in the Scarlet and Cream, is that what they're called? Scarlet and Cream. The brass gets the Scarlet and Cream.

What? How are they? That's hilarious. Scarlet and Cream. In the Scarlet and Cream, that's the cover of the Metallica Loda album is actually Scarlet and Cream. It is Scarlet Cream.

And Lighter Cream. Okay. Lighter Cream. Oh, even a Lighter Cream. They got two creams. If you have two creams, you have one. Scarlet Cream and lighter cream. Okay. Oh, even a lighter cream. They got two creams. If you have two creams, you have one. Scarlet cream is not in vocal like battle. It does not. And the Scarlet cream where legacies in Twine, Dylan like Roger's, Rosier and Crouch, a hero

in the line. No longer a cog in some powerhouse machine, but a quarterback with an even grander ambition unseen. So, what the fuck is this? So, fellow fans await with hope in the air for Dylan to choose his purpose to declare. In a weekends decision, Destiny calls, to fulfill his purpose, where a new dynasty enthralls.

It, this sounds like a ninth grade poetry contest. It's so crazy. Yeah. Analyzing all the types of poems. He's already a bust in my eyes. I also think that I'm happy for Nebraska fans, but you can't be feeling good about that poem. Yeah.

I don't know. I feel like he wrote this poem using like the source, or not the sort of rhyming dictionary, dot com, to figure out what rhymes with calls to fulfill his purpose where a new dynasty in thralls. What is in thralls, mean, Hank? In thralls. Makes you curious, it excites you.

Exciting? I'm enthralled. Yeah, you're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled.

You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. You're enthralled. Can a new dynasty in Thrall? Yeah, also how are you gonna have a lot of a dynasty? How are you gonna have dynasty in today's college football? You're gonna be that mean you're gonna transfer next year. No, that means he's got to stay for at least two seasons I agree. Yeah, I I was Good for Nebraska. I'm not trying to shit on the brass some happy I'd like want Nebraska be good. That poem ruined it all for me.

Yeah. The minute I saw the poem, I was like, what is going on? It's a tough, it's very corny. But that's actually good for Nebraska. Yeah. And I think we're just getting old because it's like all the top of it.

It's like Caleb Williams. He cries. It's like all this stuff is so goofy. But then it's like he's the number one recruit. This is the number one recruit. It's so goofy. But maybe it's just us. Is he a warrior poet?

I missed the days when a guy would just sit on, you know, a local telecast and do the fake, like reach for this hat, then take the other one, that'll be it. They could have just done a high coup, I made it quicker. Yeah, seven five. They could have just not done that. They could have said he's going to Nebraska. Everyone was excited about it.

Yeah, he could have literally said, I want to play football for the Nebraska Cornhuskers and Matt Rulow. Yeah, I'm. That's my big red. Actually, great poem. Yes. Go big red is a perfect poem. Yes. Go big red. Okay, you're cool thrown. I cool thrown his banner talk. Banner talk in the NBA. The Los Angeles Lakers unveiled their in-season tournament championship banner last night. They unveiled it amongst the NBA championship banners that they have hanging up at the Staples Center, whatever they called it now. It's always a Staples Center to me. I'm like Bill Plash. Yeah. Stape. I think it's crypto. Is it

really? I think it's something else now. Oh yeah. They changed it again. It was the crypto crypto cell. It's the Staples Center. No, it is crypto. Yeah, the heat change. Crypto.com. Crypto type. So, a lot of people are talking about whether or not there should be a banner, whether or not it should be unveiled in season, whether or not the in season tournament should be something to be this proud of. I actually have a solution for this because I think that if you're Adam Silver, you want

your players to celebrate the in-season tournament because then it means next year's in-season tournament. Yeah. We'll be taking more serious. Yes. There should just be one banner. Ooh. And the team that wins it should get to have it in their arena for the remainder of that

year into next year where they have to give it up. And another team then gets to possess that banner because you can't have like every NBA team eventually having an in season tournament. It's also it's good for the league that the Lakers won the first one because if it was the Pacers that won the first one, then next year if there's a team that's historically not great that wins it, then it's almost like you don't want to win. Yeah. It comes like a joke of a banner, but having just one banner that gets passed around I think

is the way out of this one. I think it should just be like it shouldn't be a banner. It should be like a large patch. That way, if you do win the actual title, you can put the patch on the real banner. Okay. So it's like almost like a Girl Scout. Yeah, I like that.

Like that. Adding some, some flare. Or you get it on your jersey. Yeah. You get to wear the patch on your jersey. Yeah, like that. Like because it shouldn't be a full banner. Yeah. That was the only thing I didn't like,

like, banners are banner. Like, those should be raised for real reasons. Like, if you're retiring a number or you win a title, this one should be, or if you're the Colton, you finished, you know, second in the AFC South. Those are the type of things you raise banners for. This should be like, a, yeah, a patch that can be added to a banner.

So every team has a banner, and then you have to earn the patches. Every team should actually raise a banner for where they finish in that season. And then you add a patch if you won the in season tournament. Actually, what about that? Would be fun if you had to raise like a last place, like the pistons had to raise like a six win banner. I like where you're at in terms of shaming teams. Yes. Not being well.

What if every team that didn't win had to raise a banner that said NBA, in season tournament loser? Yeah, and it's a picture of Max Face. I am a loser. Yeah, every team, the winner doesn't get anything. You just get the right to not have a loser banner. I like that.

I like that too. Or just a giant L. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I think we just solved it. Yeah, or just a giant L. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I think we just solved it. Yeah, shaming teams should be more in vogue. I do like the pistons next year should have to raise a banner being like we won four games.

Yeah, I mean a banner at the end of the day is a participation trophy that you get for not winning. Right, right. I also shouldn't talk about the pistons because you know fun fact, not losing. The pistons have been over 500 for more days this year than the balls. So one, I think it's like two days. The pistons beat the balls to go to two and one and the balls were one and two. I don't think the pistons wants it. Yeah, they haven't.

What are they 24? Uh, losing streak. Yeah, 25, 225. Really? They the technically two and one the wizards Oh the pistons a giant thank you card giant thank you card. It's like you don't have to be faster than the tiger You just have to be faster than the guy that's running against you against the tiger Did you see that Jordan pool highlight the other night? It's awesome Jordan pool listen buying league pass this year for Wizard's highlights has been the best investment in my life Jordan pool for people who missed it He there was like 40 seconds left. he was going to chuck up a three. He flopped after the chucked up three, like trying to get a call, no call, then the Wizard

stole the ball back. He got the ball back like three seconds later and then slipped where he had flopped and fallen down on the floor. And it was like instant karma. Balled on the line. And it was like instant karma. Bought on a lie. Yeah. All right, my hot seat is us. Boys, we've done it again.

Swifties are back after us. So this comes from TikTok user book BDanny. Shout out, she's a listener, she's a AWR. I'll take AWR's anyway, they come. So she had this analysis of our discussion about Taylor Swift and the F-word on Monday's show. I'll play it for you this from her TikTok. I'm sure Taylor Swift up in the box,

and she used the F-word. Yep. Loudly. And you have to wonder like, is that the kind of girl that we want as the face of the NFL? Nope, I don't think so. Yeah, so as a father, I think I'm not the bandit now. I mean, it's disgusting.

My son did actually say fuck at the other day, and I had it. I had him tell me it again, because I wanted to laugh, and then I was like, don't ever fucking say that. I have no words. Absolutely no words for this. I, like, if I even have to explain why that was so disgustingly misogynistic and hypocritical and double standard, I have no hope for humanity.

Okay, first of all, if she has to even explain. First of all, it's misogynic. Yeah. And right off the bat, you're telling me not very educated, mispronouncing that word. Second of all, she didn't really refute her point. No, she said is that Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift taught your son how to use the F word.

And now your son is probably gonna get kicked out of preschool. And it's because of Mrs. Swift. Yes. She's a bad example for all of us, Mrs. Swift. It also was very funny that she, she listened to that as it was dead serious. And then heard me tell a story about my son saying the effort of me saying I had to have him repeat it so

I could laugh and then told him to never fucking do it again. And she couldn't connect the two. Right. That was really galaxy brain shit. Yeah, listen, she could, she was like, I'm gonna take them seriously here. And then I just, wow. The NFL, they cannot deal with the face of the league saying cuss words. No. Okay, the NFL, the shield is about more than that. It's about integrity.

It's about covering up concussion usage. And it's about a lot of other stuff. But it's not about swearing in front of kids. That's a bad example for the children. I think the Taylor Swift should be banned from all NFL games. Yes. And broadcasts.

Yes. Until she goes to rehab to try to get off her addiction to cussing. And there was some people in the comments saying, like, oh, but my home swears, I've never seen him swear. I've never seen past. I've never seen him swear.

Never. I've never seen a coach swear.'ve never seen never seen him swear. I never see a coach swear There's no there's no room for swearing in sports listen watch hard knocks and you watch how the coaches talk to their players right It's they're sent up a good example. They're trying to use the power of positive reinforcement. Yeah, there's no shaming That's why we like watching that stuff and the NFL It's the one place in America that we can go to escape the Taylor Swift so the world They should slap the parentalinnell advisory state. She should have to get a Prinnell advisory tattoo on her arm until she can prove to herself

and to us and to children that she's a good role model. I can't even, I don't have a... I don't even, like, don't even make me explain why her saying the F word is problematic. I can, I don't want to do it Do you know what the f word stands for in the history of the f word? Hmm. I can't I I don't even want to do if you don't Don't know already then I don't have the energy to explain that to you for free. Yeah. Do you know many people have been F-worded a lot. Yeah

Sit listen F-wording is trauma right yeah Because the world is overpopulated and guess how all these people have gotten here. F-wording. You know, there was a guy in Germany that rose to power in the 1920s and 30s and he was there because his parents F-wording. Mm-hmm.

So real warming. Global warming, well no. Taylor Swift doesn't care about that. She has a private jet. True. Yeah. I'm okay with private jet. Yeah. I am too. Go on, queen. Be mother. We're actually, we're the biggest Taylor Swift fans in existence. Yes. We want Taylor to succeed. And she's got a bunch of cronies out there that apologize and make excuses for her foul language in her potty mouth. And all we want Taylor to do is to be a great role model because she's honestly, she's

better than that. Do you know what it is? I'm not trying to tell Taylor Swift what to do. She's a grown-ass woman. She can slake queen all she wants. What I'm trying to say is there is no place for swearing at a football game in the stands. Like, come on. And this is a place where people are supposed to come together and sport and enjoy each

other. Like you see like Cowboys and Eagles fans hand in hand watching their teams go. And at the end of the game, they shake hands. They say great game, fella. And they walk away. Yeah. That's what happened. Did you see the Army Navy game? Yeah. Those guys at the end of the day, they're great game, fella, and they walk away. Yeah, that's what happened. Did you see the Army Navy game?

Yeah. Those guys at the end of the day, they're all for a common goal. They don't, they don't hate each other going into the game. They're there to watch good football. And not only is it the cussing, but it's also the alcohol use that Taylor Swift has brought into football. They made a point of not showing fans ever consuming alcohol on screen at in the first games until Taylor Swift gets up there

with her grand soda and she's just, she's slurping it down for all of America to see. Now all of her kids are walking and be like, oh, I want to drink, they think it's called a Taylor Swift. They think that drinking is called, oh, I'm swifting. No, it's not, okay, and it's not fun and millions of people die every year because of alcohol. And to have Taylor Swift glorifying that

and swearing on national TV in the same season. I just think she's so much better than that. Yeah. Well, is she though? I don't even want to talk about it. I don't want to explain it if she is or not. We don't have the words. Yeah.

Make sure you clip all this so that we can put it out. Last thing about this, I really just love the idea that maybe this woman listens to, and she's like, got him again. Or got him again. She mighthmm. Or God, I'm again. She might be doing a double troll on it. Oh, that thought occurred to me this morning when I watched the second time and I was like, maybe she's just like the biggest AWL of all.

Oh. So far in on it. Tushay. She's fucking with it. That's off the comments. I think it's more likely than that because who's like, if it's one thing when people see clips, like the whole first thing

happen because of a clip. and that with algorithms and stuff it might just get fed to you if you're not a fan. If you're listening to a podcast feed, the way that she was in the video, she, how do you get there? If you don't understand satire. Do you make the clip of it? The best.

No, she was, the baby she had was her. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So it wasn't taken, she didn't like some cross-explanation. I think it's more likely that she's there. Trolling us? It's more likely than that than her Listening and not understanding satire if if I listen I watched her other videos. I don't maybe someone Said it was that was that was my takeaway was like it's one the first thing if it's a clip that happens Clips could take an out of context all the time. That's that's social media

But to be on listening as if she was listening to it regularly. And then to Biggest, when it was like, gotcha. If she was actually trolling us, I would want to maybe hire her. Because I think that would be a very funny addition of the show to have somebody whose entire job is to get pissed off at things that we say out of context. And to go viral, being like these guys are the worst.

Yeah. That would be the best marketing we could ever have. Oh wait, Dave did just chime in. I love it. He, uh, all the comments section was like being like, I can't believe Dave hired, like, employees these guys. He's got a comment on it. He literally just treated pervert my take back up to their usual misogynistic tricks.

It's crazy how threatened they are by females watching football. Oh, this is great. Miss Hodge and his thick fix. It's crazy how threatened they are by females watching football Great it's so great pervert my take pervert my take hard on my take. Yeah Man the F word not here not now not ever agreed He loves pervert my take loves it. He thinks the funniest thing ever did he come up with that? Yeah, but now all you got to do is hit him back with the David Democrat and he'll shut up. Yeah, David. I regret to inform you that Dave Portino has gone woke. David Democrat trying to police language yet again. Yeah, it's sad. Okay. Oh wait, I have a cool throne. No, I don't it was Nebraska Dylan Raoul. We all just took each others. Yeah, repeatedly. Yeah, we did. Jake, my hot seat is the mayor of New York City. Yes. Yeah. Eric Adams. This guy's white something. I think I love this guy now.

Yeah. So he was asked on a Pixel 11 local news, describe 2023 in one word. Every day you wake up, Mr. Mayor, we've come to the end of what was a very eventful 2023. Right. So when you look at the totality of the year, if you had to describe it and the stuff to do in one word, what would that word be and tell me why? New York. This is a place where every day you wake up, you could experience everything from a plane crashing into our trace center to a person who's celebrating a new business that's open

This is a very very complicated city and that's why it's a great city on the globe Mr. Mayricks so that's quite a take no reason why I need to add that he's on the hot seat Yeah, I know I think multiple words. This is just kind of yeah, no Yeah, I think it's like Eric Adams is not on the hot seat because this is kind of what Eric Adams is. Yeah, and he's just basically a guy that seems like he has a head injury

that gets paraded in front of the media every now and again, just says like, you know, I think a lot of things are true at the same time in this city, and you have to appreciate all points of view. Thank you, this has been Mayor Adams. This is kind of what he does. Quite a quote. I mean mean cheering on a business. Masked death. Playing goes into the towers. One on the same. Yeah. That's what makes this city great.

Yeah. Well, you take to go with the bad. Two words for a one word answer. Yeah. Yeah. You don't really have to do anything to be Mayor of New York. That's what I've realized from living there. Because everyone's gonna hate you no matter what. So the best strategy is to just not do anything. Yeah. Yeah, not even live there. Yeah, the Narrow Adams not live there? He lived in New Jersey.

Yeah, he had like a fake apartment in Brooklyn. Yeah, I think I would be a great mayor of New York. I think I really would. I wouldn't do shit. Yeah, you gotta just be like, you know, a couple of free concerts here and there. Maybe a, uh, some kind of new like drone robot police dog. Yeah.

They hire an exterminator for like 200K. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would get like Robo on the rack. Robo cop to patrol the sewers.

Yeah. And just destroy all the, I would probably bring what eats rats snakes. I would just dump a rat's eat. I would dump cheese. I would dump a fuckload of snakes into the sewers and be like solve the rat problem Yeah, then I would build a beach on the Hudson River and be like go to the beach. It's fun. Now New York has everything No, I'd build a I would put a bunch of shitload of snakes into the sewer system Get all the rats and then I would get all the Irish people to dress up

and kill it and then go beat the snakes off the island. And then we have seen Pattern State too. I think no matter what New York, it's impossible to have an approval rating as mayor of like over 50%. Yeah. No, that's, must the teams are winning. Someone has to do the job. Yeah, but they don't.

I know. Yeah. Ever. It's kind of crazy at this point. Do you think it for the Yankees? Juliani, he wasn't like was the peak of Juliani. Was the peak of the New York people loved him because it was like, yeah, the Yankees, the peak of New York sports in the last like five years was the DeVito and Zach Wilson one offensive player of the week at the same week. They're a joke. I think so. Two teams of city. Oh, judge. Oh, that was.

Hang the banner, Jake. Jesus. I'm on that. Oh, he's an home run champion. Officially is not. Okay, what's your cool throw? My cool throne is my alma mater Syracuse football. They are having arguably the best off season in all of college football.

Oh, my God. We got about half the chord. Okay, what about Nebraska? Okay, but is it, is it now this is a debate that we're gonna have in the transfer portal is a player who's not good good because he went to a better team? Well, I think people are trashing Colin McCord because he had a higher state standards. That's Syracuse. If you go nine and three, that's amazing. You know, he wasn't good though.

But he went 11 and one. Yeah, their defense did very well. And he wasn't good. Marvin Harrison. Great player, very family. Exciting. Again, Syracuse standards. Okay, yeah.

Well, is he, are you excited about this being the best offseason because you got a player who used to be highly Yeah, you can see you know, it's a five star. Yeah, we got a five star guy. Yeah, that's fair If you're Syracuse you should celebrate this, but Jake. Yeah, I don't know if you should say that you've had the best offseason of any program In my book, okay, yeah, you can have a book. Yeah, you can't book. Yeah, no, there's been some teams. I will not miss literally has everyone Come to the set. Lane Trin. It's fucking killing it. Uh, okay, should we get to our interview? We've got Let's start with Colt McCoy and then we have Sean Stalato in studio

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Is Texas back? Hey, I tell you what, it's been fun to watch him this year because they won a lot of close games and then, you know, you always want to play good down the stretch and you know, games that we felt like they probably should have blown the guys out. They, you know, maybe struggled with, but they ultimately found a way to win and towards the end of the season, I told everyone around me, these guys are playing great. I was state game on the road, that was a trap game. I came back home, handled Texas Tech, played good in the big totes. I mean, they're just, they're trending up in my opinion. That's a great place to be. On the other side, you've got Alabama also turning up. Have you allowed yourself?

You can't look ahead. Can't look past any opponents. Have you allowed yourself to think about potential revenge game rematch Alabama Texas in the national championship game? Well, mine hasn't gone there fully yet, but that would be awesome. That would be incredible. I think for the fans, I think for everybody in Texas felt we felt good going into that game back in 2009. Yeah, you had it. But for now, it's like, got to get through Washington, but that would be awesome. I mean, it would be and it'd be in our backyard, right? They're right there in Houston.

Yeah, you had a great team back then. I was in Austin at the time. I remember how electric the feeling was in Texas for that little run. But are you, are you ready and at a point in life to admit that the clock operator screwed up when you were playing against Nebraska and that you should have had time left to kick a field goal? Can, can we say that for all the Nebraska fans out there, the husters? Do you apologize to them?

The amount of Nebraska teammates I've had throughout my career and NFL that, that won't look at me the first time they see me is a high number, the will-comptance of the world. Yeah, so I think we all learned that the ball has to hit the ground for the clock to stop, right? And I got lucky that the ball hit whatever it was. The side of the bleachers or the ground, or I wouldn't have been able to tell you that rule before.

You know, if they tell you to throw the ball away, they say, you know, throw it in the nickel seats or whatever. And now everybody knows when the ball hits the ground, that's when the clock stops. Or whatever. Yeah. How, how, more importantly from that game, how scary was was the, the, the, the, the, Gama to Sioux, uh, and going up against him because that, that that was a season that he was he should have won the Heisman. He was like the best player in college football by a large margin, but going up against him like he dominated that game. He dominated

every game he played in. Was it scary going up against him being like, there's nothing my guys can do in front of me. I just know that at least like five or six times I'm going to have to have him running after me again. Yeah, you know, we had played pretty good that year. We were actually, in my opinion, better in 2008 than we were in 2009. In 2009, it was like there's a lot of new players, a lot of young receivers, but we found ways to win. And leading into that game, we had been playing good.

We'd blew out A&M the week before. And we all heard about endomac and su. You're here about them all year, but you don't really know how good he was until you got out on the field and played against him. And we tried to double team him. It wasn't working. They were constantly in the backfield. But if you did double team him, his running buddy Jared Crick on the other side was like making plays too. So, I mean, they're defensive game plan against us that day. We couldn't do anything. We dropped a couple touchdowns early in the game that would have made a big difference, but, you know, we got the ball late and found a way to go down and get a

field goal and sneak out of there. But that was not a fun game. I promise. Yeah, they beat you up pretty good in that game. I remember watching it. Going back to just growing up with the name Colt McCoy, did you know from a young age that your parents just wanted you very much to be a quarterback? Well, I was fortunate because my dad was my high school football coach, right? We lived in small towns out in West Texas and you know having him as my coach was awesome, right? And so I didn't know if I was ever going to have the chance to go play college football. In fact, I didn't get recruited until very, very late. I thought I was going to go play college basketball. That's what I wanted to do. And then we had a pretty good team at my my small West Texas high school. And we won a bunch of games kind of my junior and senior year. And like right before my senior year started, I ended up going to one of those one day mini camps

that, you know, schools have now or they did back then. And kind of started on the side of the field where, you know, it was just kind of not that great of players. And then by the end of the day, you kind of end up in the section where there's the good players and all of a sudden, people were like, where are you from? What's your name? And that's kind of how it happened.

I got recruited late and kind of snuck in the UT. I think everybody was disappointed. They didn't get Ryan Parallel or Mark Sanchez. Those were the two guys in my class. And then the best thing that ever happened to me was I read Sh Sheridan and was able to sit in the meetings and be a practice and run scout team the year that we won the national championship in 05 with Fence Young and then, you know, and then I had to earn my way after that. You fought off competition every year at UT. It's how it is. And ended up getting to play for four years,

which has been a huge blessing. Yeah. I just remember seeing the name Colt McCoy and I thought to myself, it's just that man's destiny that he's the starting quarterback at the University of Texas. You can't have Colt McCoy on your roster and be like, I think that's QB2. I know you earned it, but the name alone, that was, you were always gonna be the court.

Was it nickname that was given to you? Cause your real name's Dan. I didn't know you were allowed to do that. My name's Dan. Oh, it's my middle name, but I vote. Yeah, yeah, I'm reason that everyone in my family has gone by their middle names all the all the guys in my family. I don't know. I didn't know I was allowed to do that. I would have been a cult. Yeah, every block like cold is so sick. Cold is an all-time name. Just you can't be mad at cold. That's

just cold being cold. Yeah. Hey, are, are you officially retired? You know, after last season, I had an elbow surgery and I fought through it, man, I worked hard. I, you know, OTAs and training camp, like I managed it and things. And when I got released by the Cardinals, I've just, it's just, it's not at the point where I feel like really good about it. You know, I'm working through it, you know,

it certainly have had opportunities and taking a lot of calls, but I just, it's just still bothering me, dude. So we'll see. Yeah, because you are a quintessential, and I hope you don't take this the wrong way, because being in the NFL for as long as you are, like very hard to do,

but you are the quintessential, like, guy who can go win us a game. Like, no, let's give Colt McCoy a call. Like if he, like in a pinch, he can go win you a game. Yeah, I appreciate that. You know, I, I had certainly had a lot of opportunities in NFL my whole time played 14 years. Um, you know, you know, sort of my Achilles heel has been when I've had the opportunity to kind of like grab it by the reins. I've had an injury. I've gotten hurt. Yeah, I'm just frustrating and this this last time dude I was Fighting and fighting and fighting and it's just these elbows are nagging man You know, you know, I understand the game at this point 14 years in kind of what it takes

You know for me for my family, you know, I certainly, you know, would love to get back in. I just, my elbow is not feeling great. Yeah, that's sucks. It was one of those calls that you got this year from a team that's in New York and wears green. Yeah, that was, that was early on, right? Like that, that happened, you know, god, leave what a bummer. I'm, I'm a huge air Rogers fan. I mean, like, you, I've just the whole time I've been in NFL, like I had the chance to watch and play against them. And, and, y'all, like, what a, what a bummer that was, you know, a couple plays in or whatever, for that to happen to not only him, but to the Jets, right?

They were, that was going to be a cool story. Yeah. yeah. So this year in the NFL, it feels like we've had a lot of injuries, a lot of backup quarterbacks. You've backed up some guys, you've obviously started a lot of games. What's the one thing that we don't understand about being a backup quarterback that like, when a guy comes in and doesn't, isn't successful right away and we shit on them, like we've got it wrong. Because I think maybe even it's just not getting the snaps. How much that actually matters. Like how much does that actually matter

if you're not getting first team reps in training camp? You know, as the season starts then you're just thrust in there. Yeah, I mean, listen, everyone thinks being a backup quarterback is a glorious job, right? You get paid and you don't have to play much and you don't have to put your body through the,

through the ringer. And, you know, a lot of that is true. You know, everybody wants to play though, right? And so I think for me, you know, the years that I've been in backup and then FL, it's just, you work hard, like you work harder. You're there earlier, you're there later because you're, you know, I used to always like to give, you know, whoever the starter was, like you work harder. You're there earlier, you're there later because you're, you know,

I used to always like to give, you know, whoever the starter was, like, a lot of my notes, like things that I've, the extra time that I've put in, like, I see them doing this on these situations, right? And that helped the guy in front of me, but that also helped me, right? Because you never know at what point you're going to get put in. And I always wanted to be the guy that if I was put in that situation, like everybody knew I was ready to go. And you know, that's not easy to do. It requires a lot. And I think you look across the league. There's some guys who are doing it really well right now, right? Jake Browning and Cincinnati, like coming off

the bench and playing as well as he has Gardner Menchew and Indy. Like, he's put together some really nice games and, you know, it's a tribute to them and how hard they've worked and sort of their career path to kind of just figure out how to be in that role. You know, a lot of it is, you know, I would say one of the most important things across the league is like, how good is your quarterback room? Like from a, like just everyday standpoint, are you boys?

Like do you trust each other? Like is there, there's a camaraderie in there, right? And those rooms that seem to have that are the teams that seem to be pretty good. And a lot of that has to do with the backup quarterback. Like you want to, you want to bring value to the room based on your knowledge, based on your skill set, but you're there to help.

You're an extra set of eyes for the offensive coordinator during the game. You're the one talking to the quarterback in game, like adjustments, all that. So I love being in that position. We all wanted to play, but I got to see it in a lot of different rooms. I learned a lot of different offenses.

I kind of looked at it as another arrow in my quiver every time I learned a new system. And dude, I just love the game, right? I'm bummed that, you know, I'm not out there, but at the same time, you know, I count my blessings for 14 years. Yeah, get that elbow right. We might see it back out there again. What's the best room that you've ever been a part of over your career? Oh, man. I've been in a lot. I will say the best dude who made the biggest difference for me was my rookie year in Cleveland, Jake DeLone. Jake was

I'm really, really talented quarterback. Obviously went to a Super Bowl. Should have won a Super Bowl against New England. Right. Laying his career, he gets scooped up by the Browns. He's the starter. You know, I end up, he gets an ankle sprain. I ended up being thrust into there like week four or five in my rookie year. And I played good in my rookie year. But a lot of it had to do with him and just he'd seen the game. He played in NFL Europe. The stories he could tell the kind of guy that he was and for me You know, I never dreamed we go in the NFL. So I was like well, I'm gonna I'm gonna if I ever get in position like Jake is where like I'm a starter and I lose my job like I'm gonna act The exact same way Jake acted with class, with character, he's helpful. And if he's not on the field, he's bringing value in so many other ways to the entire football team. And a sportsmanship, he's a very cool guy. Jake is awesome. Awesome dude.

Some teams you can't understand him. He's got that Louisiana occasion vibe to him. Yeah. You're like, what did you just say? Yeah, but like, he's awesome. It's funny you were talking about like, how you can ingratiate yourself into a quarterback room as a backup. We were talking to Chase Daniel last year. And he said his move was to always go in and buy the most expensive espresso machine

coffee maker possible. And then bring that in and then that upgrades the room. But everyone's like, shit, Chase just upgraded a room with a piece of hardware, and now everybody likes him. Would you like come in first day? Hey, here's a bunch of donuts, bringing breakfast for everybody. Did you have a move?

I mean, that's a better move by Chase, for sure. One of the things I started doing late in my career was I would sit down, I would run the scout team, right, or most of the things I started doing late in my career was I would sit down, I would run the scout team, right, or most of the time. And I would meet with the defensive coordinators going into the week like, hey, I don't think this pressure is going to work or I don't think this coverage, it's too easy to see. You're not confusing me at all, I know exactly where I go with the ball. There was a lot of good dialogue late in my career, you know, and I felt like I added

a lot of value that way that I was, you know, able to give some good feedback to coordinators. And I learned a lot of defense that way too, like rules and responsibilities of, you know, secondary players, rushers. And so it's just, you know, I think being in that role, you always have to get yourself ready to play. That's the most important thing. But then it's like, okay, if I'm going to be here 12 hours a day, like away from my family, grinding all the time extra like I'm going to actually learn things that have value and they're going to help me, you know, forever, right? How I see the game, how I watch a game, how I can, you know, coaches call all the time, like, how do you, how can you talk their language?

Like that's the things that I really tried to, to bring value in it. And with a scout team that's interesting to be hearing a backup talk about that, because I always imagine like a scout team quarterback doing method act and going in that week, like, oh, I got to be Lamar Jackson this week in practice. So you get real stretched out. You start running. How much would you adapt your game to whichever quarterback you were trying to simulate? That's a great point.

The weeks that we played Lamar Jackson, they definitely insert like a receiver who was going to do people. I just think I can watch. But the weeks they would play, you know, more heavy past game, like you would enjoy those weeks because it's like, you you're gonna see a lot of different coverages, you're gonna be able to give good feedback on how you can make decisions. Is it a lot of post-nap reads?

Like how did my eye see it? Just little things like that. So dude, yeah, I missed NFL, man. The competitive environment, there's nothing like that. So, dude, I, yeah, I missed NFL, man, the competitive environment. There's nothing like it. But, you know, I just, having a hard time with, you know, just, you know, you know what you need to feel like to go out and play. And, you know, we're getting there. Yeah. One of the weirdest stories I read about you is that time, Jay Gruden said that you drink a gallon of milk a day. Do you remember that?

You came out and clarified afterwards that you drink a gallon of milk like every five or six days, but I think that if someone says you drink a gallon of milk a day, that kind of implies you drink a way too much milk. So do you drink too much milk? He was talking about raw milk, wasn't he? Raw milk, yeah, right up, right.

Yeah, I think you even called it the tea straight from the source. Yeah, he couldn't see you forgot the word for utter Did you have a cow that you would go visit? Yeah every morning just lay down underneath? That's like a that's a sticky world. You start talking about you know, there's a lot of rules and regulations I grew up you know My grandparents had a farm and we were kind of always in and out helping spending summers out there And you know they that we had dairy cows for a little bit growing up. So we always drank raw milk.

And you know, as I as I got older, it was kind of the running joke. I drink a lot of milk. And I think he walked down into the cafe one morning. I had like, I might have brought like a jug of raw milk to work or something, something random. And he was like, what are you drinking? And I said, you know, milk, he's like, what kind of milk? And it was like in one of those glass jars or whatever. He's like, this like, you know, milk is just like from this, like this raw. And we just kind of had some banter going back and forth. And you know, all of a sudden, he's like, can't believe it.

He's talking about, I'm letting him try it. And, um, you know, that story kind of ran wild. Yeah, it did, but you drink a lot of milk. Yeah, of course. How much? I would say probably like a gallon, right now like a gallon a week probably, like in my kids' drink a lot of milk.

How many glasses a day? Probably a glass, a big glass for breakfast and a big glass for dinner. Oh, you got a milk? You drink milk with dinner? I like that. Harbaugh does that too. Yeah. Hey, I think it's a product of kind of like where you grew up. Texas thing. I don't know. Strong bones. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't hate it. There's worse things that your quarterback could be known for. Is that milk than milk? No, no, no. Oh, that would have been awesome. I was just like, yeah, I don't drink that much milk.

You're just sipping on a little milk like noon. I saw. You got a milk problem. You addicted to milk. Yeah, I saw you drink. I have a styrofoam cup. I was like, is that some, is it sipping on the lean? Yeah, I don't think it should be ashamed by the way.

I feel like milk is shaked like male and milk is shamed. Milk is delicious. Since when was milk bad for you? I agree milk's been good my whole life. Yeah. Yeah, it lets it lets cows grow big and strong Yeah, I want to be strong like bull right milk boys for sure We have actually made big cat had a thing where milk we would take a personal gallon of milk around with us And then just chug it until we threw up. Yeah pretty much the end of the bit. Yeah, it's a short live bit Yeah, we're gonna short live bit. Yeah. We're gonna get back to Copencoin a second.

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But I always thought that you should have had the opportunity to see if you could be the full-time star of the team. Do you feel like you ever have had the opportunity to see if you could be the full-time star of the team. Do you feel like you ever really got that opportunity there? Yeah, I think the hard part there was Robert Griffin won Rookie of the Year, the year before I got there. He certainly established himself as the guy and he battled with some injuries and then Kirk stepped in and played. Then I had an opportunity and got banged up late in the season and then it was

kind of let's go back into the next year and Kirk ended up getting the job. Then there was a two-year span in there where I didn't take a snap. Kirk played every snap. All our games were going down the wire. We won the East one here. Kirk played awesome. Again, I mentioned this earlier, we all want to play, right? Like, I love the reason I stuck around Washington for so long is because I love Jay, and I

love the system. I felt like I had a good grasp of, you know, what we were trying to do offensively. And when Sean was the coordinator, when Kevin was the coordinator, I felt good in it. And then I had my chance when Alex went down, and then three weeks later, I break my leg. And it's like, there was always like a little bit of an injury that a little bit of something that just kind of got the rug swept out from under me because of those

kind of nagging injuries or broken, whatever it was. But looking back, man, I learned so much football there. And Jay was great to me. Like I was there the whole time Jay was there. We were tight. We're still tight. He's phenomenal football coach. So smart. Like, you know know his style is very unique but he was able to like coach Sean up to be the coordinator coach Kevin up to be the coordinator like those guys learned a lot from him too and I think people forget that and you know I have nothing but good experiences from my time in Washington which we could could have won more, you know, wish I wouldn't have dealt with some injuries, but you know, at the end of the day,

that's part of the game. I tell people all the time, if you're gonna play football, there's a hundred percent chance you're gonna get hurt. You just hope it's not like the big hurts, like the big injury. Yeah, yeah. I wanna go back to Texas real quick in this game coming up.

How, are you, do you talk to some guys on the staff? You're watching every game like how are you feeling going into this game against Washington and also specifically like Quinn yours and his progression because it feels like this is the year that he's made that jump and he's looked you know incredible for spurts this year. Yeah yeah no okay I'll start out with Quinn. I think Quinn is playing awesome, right? I think he's got good weapons around him. Probably a first or second round tied in. A couple NFL receivers that are going to play in the NFL.

And the offensive line has stayed healthy and they're playing great. So you look at the progression Quinn has made from last year to this year. It's exactly how it should be, right? And that's a credit to him. Like, he's very accurate with the football. He doesn't turn it over very often.

Like, I feel very good about our game against Washington. The thing that I keep thinking about with Washington is like, we match up pretty good. But it's like, even if Washington plays a bad game, there are two receivers on the outside could like quietly have 150 yards receiving. And that's like the equalizer. Yeah, like it doesn't matter at that point. Like they're still going to score.

They're still going to make plays and all of a sudden, you know, they're in it at the end of the game and they find ways to win. And, you know, Pinnix is a really, you know, veteran season guy. Like he's accurate with the football. So, you know, and then what Washington's also well coached. Like I haven't watched all their games or watched a couple. And it's like the adjustments they make, you know, by the time they get into the third, fourth quarter, they're, they're rolling, right?

They're, they're just, they're just sound football team. So I want to keep saying like, no, Texas is going to lie to my Texas. But I also know that like even if Washington plays bad, the receivers are good enough to keep them in the game. Yeah, and the point on Washington's coach, Kyl and DeBor, is a good one because he's been, they've been in a lot more games where it's been tight and he's had to push the right buttons and you know, go for it. Whereas Texas, obviously the game against Alabama was close-ish and the game against Oklahoma didn't go well. Maybe some things you want back. Most of the other games out maybe Kansas state, but like Texas blew out a lot of teams too. Yeah, no, again, I go back to the point I originally made,

like Texas should have won the Oklahoma game, right? We broke down late, we went down and scored, and then they pulled out a drive, 80 yards, and like less than a minute, that shouldn't happen, right? But I think just overall in general, when I look at Texas, I think, they also had some slip upsups like at Houston, right, at home against BYU, you know, they didn't like really put their foot on the gas and like,

you know, they go up 21 and nothing or whatever and then all of a sudden in the fourth quarter, it's a one-score game, right? Yeah. You want to like eliminate those kind of things and then once you got through those, you found ways to win. Now I just think that Texas has has really like kind of set the standard for themselves and they're playing at a high level. Now for Washington, it's like, how good is the pack 12? I think the pack 12 is pretty good. Right? Like they got a lot of teams that, you know, won eight or nine games. So it's it was competitive every week and Washington, you know, ran the table. So I think Washington is better than what people think. I think Texas is going to have to play well, but I still, I still like Texas with the upper hand.

Yeah. Yeah. So you talked about the red river shootout. Can we, are we in favor of bringing back the red river shootout? You played in the shootout before it was the rivalry. It's so much better when you just call it the shootout. We can agree on it, right? I agree.

I agree. 100%. It doesn't have that same, like it's, it's going to be a big game no matter what, but it's just, it's more fun in the lead up when it's called the shootout. That's something I think as America, we can agree on and dial it back a little bit. 100% and I am glad that the game's staying at the combo. Like that's where I need to stay. They sound a big extension. The atmosphere there, the crowd split right down the middle, sharing the same tunnel, the old school locker rooms, everything about that game is perfect. Other than we need to call it the shootout. Yeah, it's at the state fair. You got the cowboy hat, the golden cowboy hat, one of the best trophies in sports. I'm thinking back also to when you were at Texas and the photo shoot that you did,

where you're wearing the hard hat, you know the question I'm about to ask, the hard hat with a sledgehammer and the head of the sledgehammer is a football. When you were doing that photo shoot where you're like, damn, I look awesome right now. It's no, I was talking to the guy and the people behind me are kind of like snickering

and laughing. I'm like, hey, the amount of crap I'm gonna get for this picture is gonna be forever. And it's so true. Like I'm in a couple of group texts like with a bunch of my old teammates. Somebody will throw something out there once a month and it never fails that that picture gets thrown in there. Yeah. Like, it's like the picture

they have of me when I call them. Yeah. Every single time you can win in a fell MVP and your boys in the group chat would just respond with a picture of you holding the sledgehammer football. Yeah. Hey, who's going to win the text game? I don't know. Call the guy with a hard hat and hammer. If Texas wins, that picture will be used nonstop. Oh, who's gonna win the Texas game? I don't know, call the guy with the hard hat and hammer. Let's do a good game. If Texas wins, that picture will be used nonstop. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna tweet it out for sure. Yeah. If Texas wins.

Yeah, Texas all the way back. Oh, man. Whoever took that picture loves this conversation. Yeah. Get some royalties off. Yeah. Do you ever get sick of the Texas back conversation? We have fun with it.

I think you guys got to win it all to be all the way back, right? A hundred percent. And I'll say it's been annoying over the last like 13 years or whatever. Good. Mission accomplished. Yeah. That's what we want. Like, we want to know. I mean, it's just, you know, but I think it's brought on, right? I think, I think, you know, if you look at the program of Texas, we've had three head coaches since Coach Brown left, right? There's been transition, but the one thing that never changes is the expectations of the fans and of the university, right?

And they haven't met those expectations in this hard. I remember, like, I don't want to always talk about me and our teams, but, you know, my first two years after the National Championship, we went 10 and 3 both years. And it was like, I didn't want to go to class. People hated you. Right. It was boring. It was dull.

Everybody was like, oh, you got stuck. It's like, we just went 10 and 3. I think Texas won 10 games in a row for 12 or 13 years. That's a standard. And so now I think the fans know, the fans' ability to like just give Sarc some time. Like a few years, like let him, like that was always the thing that I was preaching was like, guys, this isn't like an overnight transition. Now I will say with the NIL and the portal and like that kind of like, it can happen a lot quicker now. But back then, like before this all happened,

it was, that was hard to do. And so I'm just thankful that like, we've won the close games this year, you know, the trap games, like we found a way to win, and now we've put ourselves in a position to like, ultimately, everything that we wanted to accomplish is right in front of us. Yeah, do text back forth with Mekanae

because I'm interested in knowing what he's got planned for the pre-game speech for the semifinal. There's no talent, but I love Matthew, you know, the minister of culture. Any big game you're going to see his face a lot, but he loves the program. He'll probably have an awesome pre-game speech, hopefully somebody can record it, very passionate. And yeah, I look forward to seeing them down there in the sugar bowl. He's bringing a husky on a leash. You're like, you got a dog walk.

Put a muzzle on him. Yeah, muzzle these guys. Yeah, you were talking about the NIL and how Texas is able to build and build. They get archmanning on campus right now uh... so i'm getting a game against texas tech this season and i take an archmanning which is probably i'm very dumb and wrong about ninety nine point nine percent of things that i say

so my stupid take on archmanning is that right now he's too good at playing quarterback if you saw those passes he was throwing they were right on the dot bouncing off guys hands in the in zone they were ready to catch archmanning's passes yet. The receivers might need another year in archmaning system in order to catch up to the genius that is archmaning. I love it. You know, listen, like I've been around arch quite a bit. I mean, gone back to some spring, spring practices. Like, I remember when I was

helping sort of like recruit him to UT. Now, listen, I'm not taking any credit for that at all. I just was around a little bit. He was so much more prepared and ready and mature than what I was when I came, came on campus, right? Like, he's got the script as he's watching practice. He's not even on campus yet. He hasn't even signed yet, right? But he's got the script as he's watching practice. He's not even on campus yet. He hasn't even signed yet, right? But he's going down the, he's knows the formations, he knows the shifts and the motions, he knows the protection, like the dude is really, really smart and football, right? He's mature. And I know he's worked really hard. You know, I'm

thankful that he got a red shirt. I think, I think, we've got to play a little bit. I'm very bullish on him, like I'm thankful that he got a red shirt. I think that he got to play a little bit. I'm very bullish on him. Like I'm high on him because I know the character that he has, the family situation, he's seen like elite level quarterback his whole life starting with his grandpa. So their family has always been so nice to me.

I just, I don't wanna compare archmaning with Garrett Gilbert, okay? But when I was in school, love Garrett Gilbert, like had a nice career, but like he never lost a game in high school. He was right in Lake Travis, right in the backyard. Like he was crowned as king before he ever got on campus and a moment he threw a pick or two or they lost a couple home games it was like

everything turned on it wasn't necessarily his fault right but it was the expectation for just astronomical and I sense a little bit of that with Arch, although I think Arch has a very good head on his shoulder. I think he's going to handle it all well. Like I know he wants to play. And he's got a chance to sit and watch Quinn play. Quinn's done great. Like Quinn's executed Sark's offense to a T, right?

So he's got a good picture of what it's supposed to look like. And whenever that, you know, whenever arch gets his chance, I know that this year will be very, I've told him. I said, the best thing that ever happened to me was red shirt. Right. I know it's not that cool to do. And it sucks. And it's like, especially in this day and age, but like, I'm just telling you, it was the best thing that ever happened to me.

Yeah. And hopefully, you know, that turns out to be the case for arch two. And you recruited him. You hand delivered arch manics. Thanks. Thank you, Colt McCoy. You brought Texas back. That was fun. All right. I have one last question. Appreciate the time, Colt. It's been fun. Robac question, RHO BACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase Q's as polo's hoodies joggers shorts going back to the national title one last time. Uh, the Rose Bowl, obviously get injured. And what point did you realize down the broadcast they were talking about you

playing catch with your dad underneath the stadium because then it became like it was like, you know, lore was like, oh my God, he's testing out his shoulder underneath the stadium with his dad. Probably would have wished that, like, just didn't get talked about. Cause like, yeah, you were injured and you were just trying to get back all in the field. But did you, did someone tell you right after,

like, hey, that whole broadcast in the second half was all about that. Dude, no, I had no idea. I mean, how did it in my left arm out? I had to play, I mean, how did it be my left arm out at going out of play? I'd never miss a snap. Right. I couldn't control anything.

You know, I hate the narrative where it's like, you know, you were trying to go to the league like all that. I mean, that's so not accurate. Like, I mean, that wasn't even a thought for me, right? If I wanted to do that, I would have left after my junior year. Right. And so, I mean, to be fully frank, like that injury, like, stayed with me for years, years, right?

Like, nerves are different for everybody, right? And mine was like in my neck and it kind of, it took my whole arm out for weeks, months, and, you know, it's doing rehab and all of that for years, right? It's very annoying. But I tried, I tried in a lot, there was just, I mean, I didn't have the grip. I didn't have strength. You've fallen asleep on your arm before and you wake up and that thing's just like heavy, right? It's exactly the feeling that I had for several weeks after. I feel like that kind of injury too is really tough for viewers to understand. It's kind of like Brock Purdy, you know, where it's like he looks fine. Why can't he just throw the ball?

Like if I was in that game, I'd just throw the ball. I wouldn't. I wouldn't go back in the game. Yeah, we're like, if you, if you, if you like blow your knee your knee out. It's like oh we saw that he can't walk that makes sense Yeah, exactly And it's hard to explain right it's hard like you know you weren't carted off the field like all that kind of it's just It's part of the game right guys who have had like severe stingers before they know right But if you're if you're a defender and you're a tackler you go right back in the game

I'm a thrower of the football like accurately or they know, right? But if you're a defender and you're a tackler, you go right back into the game. I'm a thrower of the football, like accurately, there's no way you can do that, right? I ask anybody who's had it, right? And so the moment the time, like, that was by far the worst time that anything, you know, I never really experienced injuries up to that point in my career, like that, I mean, that was just the worst. Yeah, it's just physically impossible for you. Not necessarily for me, but for like, think about, you know,

I hated it for my coaches, for my teammates. Yeah. Those guys had never played with anybody. I got to play for four years. Like they didn't take a snapshot to anybody else, but that point, right? Like it was just a sucker punch for me and for everybody else. And, you know, you live and you learn, you move on and, you know, you, you, you look back and,

you know, that's football and, um, hate it. Your dad did win like, dad of the year that year for, for that story though. Just like, I, like, obviously, we didn't see it, but the, the, the visual that they were setting up like Called dads trying to get him warmed up back in the game underneath there. Yeah, the bleachers and the Roseball Was he running around? I was down here. Yeah, well the amount of security they had in the stadium Like I don't know how you even made it down. I think you just jump the fence and ran in a rock room Yeah, yeah If there's a daddy's like that's my son and you can get past any security Yeah, yeah they're going, if they'll say stop with me. If there's a daddy's like, that's my son in there. You can get past any security.

Yeah, yeah. It was cool. Maybe you should try to like an IV of like a drip of milk going directly into your brain. That might work. I have one last last question. You can confirm or deny this. I'm not gonna say where I heard it from,

but a little birdie told me that at one point in your NFL career, you were, you were so well liked by your teammates that you had a coach that had to tell the team, Hey, I know that Colts have an barbecue this weekend. But would you mind going to the starting quarterbacks party before you go to Colts' barbecue? I, I'm denying that all the way. Okay. Got you. They were able to go to your barbecue. I'm denying that all the way. Okay. Okay gotcha They were able to go to your barbecue without going to the other guys that we're saying it was just a it was just a lack of

Communication, you know like It's just happened sometimes yeah, yeah, you see how well liked you. That's your so like he's the you're the best dude I want to go to your barbecue. Yeah, fuck big cats barb I don't want to go to your barbecue. Yeah, fuck big cats barb. Yeah, I'm a years. I don't want to go to my barb. Yeah, cool. Cool. Yeah, good team. I've always said that like to be a backup for a long time in the NFL and you know, you

started as well. But you have to you have to have a certain personality that people are drawn to you. Like whenever they say a big name, oh, why isn't that guy a backup? Why is he still in the league? It's like it takes a certain type of cat to be able to be like selfless like that in a locker room setting like that. Yeah. Again, like there's, there's a lot of big personalities, right? And I've always just, you know, I think one of the advantages that I've had if we're talking about this

is that like since I was three years old old I was the water boy on my dad's football teams right like my heroes growing up were the quarterbacks that played for my dad in high school right I thought man I'd be I'd be extremely lucky to get to go play college football someday like Texas wasn't even on my radar you kidding me like Texas is like that's UT, right? I was gonna just go play at the local D2 school and like be happy. And so you just, you develop an appreciation for the game and I never wanted to cheat the game. I always wanted to give it all I had

and you know, whether I was starting or backup or you know, water boy, like that's just how I was raised and taught and you know this game has done so much for me and for my family and it's like man like I'm just I'm proud to got to play as long as I had it's been a dream and yeah I think there are a lot of egos and football right there's there's some there's some big name guys and and and guys who have been super successful and, but I'll be the first to tell you there's so many been so many people in my life that have like played a pivotal role in getting to me or getting me where I've where I've been able to go right now. I mean, I certainly have to admit that like good coaches, good teammates, family's been great, like teachers coaches along the way. So, yeah, man, it's been awesome.

Yeah. Well, appreciate it again. Great time having you on. If we're ever in the same spot, if you're ever in Chicago, please come by. Maybe we'll throw some, throw, throw a football around under the Rose Bowl bleachers, the whole thing. But we, yeah, yeah, no, this was awesome, man. We appreciate it. We're still rooting for you. If you do decide to come back and play some more in the NFL, yeah.

What's going to what's going to happen with your Chicago Bears quarterback? You want to come play? Listen, the backup quarterback, the backup quarterback is always the most popular guy in Chicago. So I do think I do think since Phil says come back from his, uh, the thumb or like he's played pretty good football. Yeah. I'm, I'm in full, uh, whatever they decide to do, I'll just, I'll just go all in on that. I'm done like it's just too much debating it and like talking about it. I'm tired. You know what the worst is to figure it out and I'll just go with that. If you have a plan of attack and then the team

doesn't follow what you want to do. Right. And then they stink and then you have that additional mindset of they should have followed me. I would have been right and then that makes it worse. Just yeah, I'm just going with the flow. Just getting the back seat. Yeah, whenever they do, I'm just gonna be like,

that was the smartest thing ever. I'm just gonna retroactively decide it. Yeah, yeah, there you go. It's a good, good strategy. Well, thanks so much, Coltman. Appreciate it. All right, guys. I appreciate it.

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Oh come on and you're in well, you're not Italian so how would you know hold on hold on? I actually brought so PFT words Italian jersey. Yeah, I'm one percent Sicilian and then big cat also has some close family Connections here not Italian, but supportive my I'm gonna I'm a proud Italian father 1% Sicilian and then Big Cat also has some close family connections here Not Italian, but supportive I'm gonna I'm a proud Italian father. Hey, we believe in and in adopting non-Italian Well, I'm yeah, I mean, I'm Italian father. Yeah, that's my kids are a quarter Italian. I'm nothing. No, but I'm supportive Yeah, yeah, you know that you know what that's that's the main thing You got passion in your heart and you love ball and you represent in the flag. Yeah, yeah, I respect that. Yes, it has been for my kids.

Yeah, for the hotel. For sure. A great story this year and going to the Hall of Fame, this is like the perfect week to do it too, because you were everywhere on Monday night, you were all over the sidelines. Now you go into the Italian American Sports Hall of Fame. I was looking at some of the names. It's very, very impressive.

The names that are in the Italian American Sports Hall fam. Growing up, like, what Italian sports player did you like look up to? You got Dan Reno, Joe Montana, Mike Toreco. The list goes on. Is there one guy that you look at? Yeah, Joe Montana was a guy admired. I just, you know, that San Francisco team, look at the Patriots in the late 80s with the Qtrit and the 49ers

were kind of winning, but I always admired Joe and his grittiness. And that was someone I, I am you-related till I met him before 49ers game and he snubbed me, but all good, Joe. But no, I, to stand on the Rocky, Masiano, Joe Demagio, and to be I to stand on the Rocky Masiano Joe Demagio and to be able to stand on the shoulders of those great men, it's very humbling and I'm honored, but at the end of the day, it's all about who came before me, all my ancestors, my late uncle, I developed a major passion for boxing. His name was Frankie Stilstilato and he fought Tony DeMarco, the 1955 well-to-weight champion of the world, twice at the old garden, over a girl named Grace. So I developed in that passion for boxing and Rocky

and then Bumbleman, Seney. It's, I'm just, I'm happy, but at the same token, I'm just, I'm absorbing it, but give them my kids to kind of see something like this. My four daughters and my greatest accomplishments, I think it's cool. And my parents have married 62 years. Yeah.

So they'll be there. They took the train out. They don't fly. And then my wife, who's my, you know, everything, my wife, Christa. Yeah. So when did you find out you're getting inducted? Because the timing is very funny.

Yeah, I was like, wait. Did they just see this guy on Monday football? They're like, we got to get him in the hall of fame. No, I actually like, wait, did they just see this guy on Monday football? They're like, we got to get him in the hall of fame. No, I actually they sent, I got the phone call from Ron and S.D. at the end of August. And so this was coming. Yeah, and you know, I'm not gonna lie. It was an emotional call, you know, you think it, but you don't think of

all of fame. You grind, you follow your bliss. I played at every level. You know, I had a good high school, career prep school, division one football basketball. I played a couple years of arena football. And Jeff Brahm was one of them, the coach of Louisville. And then obviously getting into the space, opening up SCS sports over 10 years ago. But you know, my teammates, my coaches, obviously my clients, I mean, and then my ancestors. So it's a takes it takes a village. Yeah. And I'm, I'm excited we're at right now. It's still like an artificial intelligence. Yeah. Still a lot of, a lot of growth potential that I'm looking forward to tapping into.

So Tommy DeVito, how did that work? How did you land him? Was it just, you just walked in and you kissed him on the cheek and he was like, all right, you're my agent. You know what? Because like it's, it's, it's, it's like a, it's a perfect scene. You know, I'm on my cheek and he was like, all right, you're my agent. You know what? Because like it's like a perfect scene you want money at football. It was like a perfect storybook. We got Tommy DeVito, the cutlets, he swept the nation, everyone's rooting for him. Then who's this agent who's got on the phone,

looking great and he's Italian too, it's perfect. How I landed him is, I made him an awful, he couldn't refuse. You know, Tommy, I knew was a baller from years back. You know, a lead 11 kid, 2018 dark horse for the Heisman trophy, went out to the Oregon open and I'll perform to a, let's face it, guys that go commit early, whether it's politics,

whether it's schemes, whether it's coaches, Syracuse didn't work, but it's a testament to Tommy's upbringing. Goes reinvent himself at Illinois. You know, I knew Tommy following Illinois his ability to process, his ability to make those intermediate throws, his ability to comprehend multiple playbooks. I put all premiums on that. Hard to quantify it. I put all premiums on that. Hard to quantify it. It's unfortunate that 28 teams didn't see the value in Tommy DeVito. Yeah. But let's face it, the goat Brady.

I mean, he went six rounds, 199th pick. Yeah. And I'm not saying Tommy's the goat, but I'm saying, or Tom Brady, rather. But I think he's a phenomenal player. I don't even think he scratched what he will become, because he's got a boulder of cutlets on a shoulder.

A lot of that. Do you kiss all your agents parents on the cheek or just Tommy? Well, I mean, his father kissed me first, and as Talians, we reciprocate. I give you a gift, you give me a gift back. So he kissed first, he made the first move. He made the first move, and I just thought it was like a perfect, like the three tenors,

you know, you saw we're in sync way. I kissed him, he kissed his son and it was Balisi mo. It was, it was perfect. So on the sideline before the game, you were on the phone, presumably making a, making a big deal, making moves. You weren't actually on the phone, you knew the camera's on. You're talking to yourself.

Yeah, you're like, I gotta act like I can't take it. I know the camera's on. I'm talking to you. Yeah, you know, like, I gotta, you spent the whole, the whole, like three hours, it's a good move. I, I love the move. I guess you know, look at it. It's like watching a mystery movie.

Maybe you might not ever know, but I was. I was trying to close a deal that I've been going back and forth with because I drove down. And then my Sienna Sicily, my five year old, we always do bedtime stories and a phone call before bed if that is on the road. So it was cool to have that moment with her. And you know, you can see Tommy was locked in. But yeah, it was it was funny to get who

was he on the phone with. But that's the yeah, it's a parentsy to that question. I thought it was a little out of bounds, a little out of line. What Eli said. Yeah, I'm gonna football. He said that your nickname was slimy. I can you know what it was actually Pey Peyton I was told. Oh, okay. And I was extremely disappointed to hear that. You know, look, Peyton considerably, you know, one of the better ones to play the position and play the game. And the thing about me is he's never met me. He doesn't know me.

Make that statement, I'm a data for daughters and a wife. I think it was very shocking, I was disappointed. But at the end of the day, you know what, I live my life, be curious, don't be judgmental. Yeah, it was my Italian discrimination. And you know, the thing is too, I'm so proud of my heritage. Yeah, like that is the world to me.

Wait, you're Italian? I think I am, I just don't know. This is their awesome. So these shoes are very, very special. So the boat on the side of the shoe is the SS canni-pick. Now, Pasquale, my grandfather, Pasqualeena, his mom, Francesco was dead, left some by eyes, which you can see right there.

Yeah. San Bia, small village in Ponta, excuse me, Captain Zaro, Calabria, Italy, on the lowest possible means, SS camp, SS can't epic, 1300 other immigrants in third class, 14 dollars to their name. So I am 272, that's my enthrime at number. And, you know, I just want to have a part of them with me. Yeah. My heritage, my ancestors, they're kind of my fix when you're in the tower of terror as an agent, you're high, you're low.

But I think about them on that boat, very little means and everything that comes as an agent because you, a lot of times you can't control it. You know, guys get cut politics, you know, you cut your recruit, you get your kid for 12 months and you come in second. But yeah, so that's very, I got something wild a weirdo night, a little bit more, I'm all, we're gonna turn it up a little bit for Sunday. But I'm the same, listen, what you see is what you get,

I am organic, I haven't changed if you look at my track record. It's not like I'm just trying to be some guy. Yeah, I like that, my cause, my cleats. That's what you're doing right now. Yeah, that's you, you pretty much put it in Italian terms. Yeah, that is, you like that. My cause, my cleats, that's what you're doing right now. Yeah, that's you, you pretty much put it in Italian terms. Yeah. Yeah, that is. You speak Italian.

I'm excited to see what you have planned for a, for Sunday down New Orleans. So it does seem like America is rooting for Tommy DeVito right now. You know, look, it's Tommy, if you think about it, you know, the underdog, it's what this country is built on. And he is one out there week after week, and he's cut his teeth. And

you know, when he was going through the Syracuse days or, you know, obviously overlooked through the draft. I mean, he didn't, you know, he didn't use that as a crutch and say, why me? Tommy went out there. When I met with coach Cable right after the draft in his office, hey, he's going to have an uphill battle. That's what he said to me. And I say, hey, you know what, we're ready to go. Yeah. I knew there was three quarterbacks. And at the end of the day, we all know

you can't project injuries. And he has gotten just better and better and better but he's comfortable now. And he won the locker room. And I mean, look at that fan base is very unique, very passionate and they got that gritty, you know, Jersey. So he's given pump and hope and a lot of those fans

and a lot of people in that area. Let's face it, I mean, we've had a broken country. A lot of things have happened and I just, it's great, it's a great success story, but he's far from, you know, he's not content. I mean, he's hungry. It is great. And he's very locked in. Yeah. All this media hype and all the, you know, the Tommy Cutler's thing, you know, we're focused on winning football games. I'm focused on service and my clients and Tommy and taking care of them on and off the field. That's the mission. That's the focus and and you know, that's how we do it.

So, how many clients do you represent in the NFL right now? So, I've got total 12 clients. Okay, so, I love your story too, because you do feel like kind of an underdog as well, because you hear, you know, there's the big agencies, the CAA, the WME, like all these, you know, a lot of these guys are just going to, okay, everyone does this, let's do this. How did you start your business? Like, how do you go from one client to 12 clients? How do you go throughout those years? Because it is a very tough business to be in,

and if you're an outsider, it's even tougher. Yeah, and it's like an old Italian woman that's not gonna give her secret ingredients to her sauce. Okay, I like that. So, I mean, look at, I build it a little differently than most. And you've got a combination. You know, there's a lot of those big, you know, Goliath out there. But I take pride in my worksmanship and, you know, doing this a long time.

And I just, you know, I try to just obviously evaluate and, you know, characters important to me. But a lot of things, you know, money changes, you know, characters important to me. But a lot of things, you know, money changes, you know, people and things changed, you know, I've been doing this a long time. And you just try to get the right guys on the bus. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. Do you represent sports media personalities?

You know, it's funny. I had some people reach out regarding that. I know one guy, Rico Bosco, he's doing contract negotiations. I think you would probably be a good agent to deal with Dave Fureco. Yeah, not Italian, but he's got an Italian name. Okay, so he changed his last name. I mean, everyone calls me Sean O because they ask what Sean, I'm like my mother loves Sean Connery,

but you can call me Sean O if it makes a feel more Italian. Yes, yes. You think you could help Rico out in negotiation with Dave Portner? Without a doubt. I know Portner, you know, he's kind of tough. I hear but well, so you wrote a book. Oh, I had a I had to bring it in. Yeah, well, he was kind of he was he was saying like who writes a book about one high school football game? So you beat his team. I mean, it's funny. Let's see. That's being judgmental and not really understanding the whole All the parallels to the story.

Right. Well, I think also because you beat his team. Yeah. That would beat him on that. We went over there and pissed on the attack. Yeah. And it was Tom McShay, right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I want to say roughly around 10 to 12,000 people there is the national game of the week on sports channel. Wow. This is the heart of the lockout from major NHL, Major League Baseball. They're undefeated. we're undefeated. We just went through a really crazy week. Teachers go on strike, Halloween day, Salem mass. Kids have a four-fifth or their season, breaking to school, steal their equipment, stash it at a local field.

Administration comes out and says, hey, if you coach, we're going to terminate you. Union grabs the coaches and says, you know, job description in the description and the collective bargain agreement has no relevance to coaching coach the kids. And they hit him with a season assist document. Now, they couldn't get that equal remedy of an injunction because he had two different contracts. So that night, we defied the season assist, the superintendent of school compares the coach live TV to Jim Jones and David Kuresh is starting a football call. Now I entertain swine the parallels of 1692 witchcraft trials one day witch high style legendary coach. It even gets better. We get to school that day going over swamscot and um coaches on a lot on the bus. So right before the game starts the coaches run out

arm locked out of blood dark vans to coach the kids. Wow. And, uh, okay, I take it back. That is, that's not in the football. And my connection to the story is I was living with my grandmother. She'd live with us. Who was dying. I was a quarterback of the team. And, um, when I talk about miraculous wins in the Vine intervention, and we're talking the Swapscar game, it gave you even better the next two games. So, but the, you know, what they do in Salem Mass, they preserve in the legacies of the witchcraft,

the witches, the falsie accused, you know, people that were hung and executed, I'm all I'm trying to do is persevere the legacies of my former teammates and our coaches. Yeah, that's a great story. Yeah, that's not just a football game. No, it isn't. And so they were, unfortunately, you know, they would just there and, you know, the better team

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because that's what you learn. Well, that's cool. But you were telling me about how the city had to be rebuilt, this whole uprising with a state. So what's it like growing up in Salem, Massachusetts? How did it make you who you are right now? You know, Salem turned me into a man, made me a conqueror. I always say 01970. We grew up very humble beginnings.

Eight of us, three bedroom house and witchcraft heights. And, um, it's a great name. It is. Great name. But I got to say this. I mean, people are coming through the city. They think it's a theme park. You know, people live there, you know, people pissing on people's lawns and, you know, you know, going down slides and people's yards and, you know, double parking in front of people's, you know, going down slides and people's yards and, you know, double parking in front of people's, you know, as they're trying to back up, it's crazy. I mean, you get millions of people come through there, but it's great for the city, but, you know, I'm trying to just carve out a little history

there and say, you know what, Salem has more than just the witches. Right. You know, as a football town, it's a town of some Italians, but it was great. It really, it gave me a platform to really use as a springboard. And I was, I mean, the year off the high school was my biggest year in my life. I went to prep school for a year, the owners, which is coincidentally, we're John Tish. Okay, Steve Tish.

Yeah. And I happened to meet John for the first time and he went to the gunnery and he was someone I looked up to in terms of learning all about him and what a great, great man and that was cool to have some face time with him before Monday night football, before everything kind of went down, which is kind of crazy.

Yeah, so we were talking about this on, I think Wednesday's show. What is it about Italians that it feels like they're the last group that everyone's okay just making fun of? And it feels like Italians are cool with it. Like, listen, I can do it because I'm a proud Italian father. And one of our, one of my favorite producers is Italian.

We got Christopher Dillente over there. Hey, Dillente. He's a hairy mother fucker. Yeah, but what? I'll dentate Dillente. Yeah, he's got that classic Italian temper. Oh, he does. He got a little Sicilian in him.

You got some Sicilian there? My wife's has Sicilian. No, no Sicilian. No Sicilian, what is it? I think my family's from Bruto. Bruto? Bruto. Yeah.

So he's got, you know, like, he'll go zero to 60 and like that. Is it sauce or gravy? Sauce or gravy? Salsa gravy. Oh, sauce, sauce. See, okay. So, but what is it about Italians that like, it does feel like they're the last people that everyone can have kind of have fun, you know, making jokes about in stereotyping.

Yeah. What's doing this? I know. Well, it's so much passion. Right. Heritage. Yeah. I mean, we hug, we kiss, you know, we love fashion and sports, you know,

I mean, shit, they used to kill each other and, you know, the Roman days and the Roman Coliseum. I mean, that gladiator stuff, but I think it's just, um, the gritty and, you know, when they came to this country, they were very discriminated against. And yeah, it was very tough for them. And I think in terms of one thing I'll say about Italians that I'm proud of is they didn't stay in place and they evolved and climbed the economic ladder. And I think that's just that gritty, you know, underdog approach.

And I share those, you know, the same values my ancestors carried over on the Atlantic, you know, loyalty, generosity, hard work, grittiness, faith, family. I carry those and try to implement those in the core values of my kids. Yeah, I think it's also because Italians love to bust balls. Yeah, they're funny.

So you feel like you can bust balls back. Wait, hey, we're in the Chicago. I'm dying to meet Sebastian. I mean, he, yeah. Sebastian called Tommy. He definitely gave me a couple of ab workouts. He is a, yeah, you're jacked. I definitely gave me a couple of ab workouts. He is a f***. Yeah, you're jacked.

I don't think people know that about you. If you go to your Instagram page, you fire off thirst traps like it's going out of stock. Oh, you pay your shirt off? Yeah. Oh yeah, he's just, I just got like an eight pack. Damn.

I told my wife, I got a maintain eight pack to home 60, so I got about 15 years. But I, you know, it's just my, I had a couple of agents I hired and fired, and I remember once saying, you can never get out of shape. Like you got to be ready for the call. So I kind of just kept that going and I do get to rewind the clock back.

Once a year, I play in a celebrity charity flag football game. Oh, and this year I'll be catching balls either from team act, treason, the gradier, RG3, the day before in Vegas. So we got to, but the makeup of, hey, I got a fight for my guys, and I train like I'm fighting. Do you train with your clients? I sometimes, yeah, I do a lot of boxing,

a lot of martial arts, got a green belt and kempo, a rim boss and marathon a few times, for every is about $10 thousand dollars for any city kids so who knows i've people trying to get in my area you laid on course a box of right one of your box another agent i'm like jesus man i i don't want to hurt anybody that's part where you did there by the way mentioned the marathon but saying

you raised money because no one cares about anyone running a marathon yeah that's that's just i mean that's like for you you got us with the charity well you know good sports and kids with severe disability Yes, you join it again. Yeah, second half. I know It is it well, you know what I I did right I wanted to make fun of you for being like yeah, I ran a couple of air I'm not I was able to run I was hurt and I was nearly crying in thirty thirty seven degrees But I'll tell you this the sec 2008 I ran it We just have my Sophia Bella and my wife's in hospital, and I was neck and neck through with Lance Armstrong.

First half marathon, and I'm proud to say I did not train once. I just went on and ran the marathon. That's insane. That's crazy. How many times a day do you say to yourself, like what would Rocky do? I would probably, I live my life kind of like a Rocky

ball meets Daniel LaRusso. Okay. So you ever like looking in the mirror like, hey, shot. Well, I'll do. Yeah. Let's get it. It's a tough at all. Yeah. Drink some fucking raw raw eggs or, you know, go punch some meat. Yeah, go go fight a Russian.

Yeah, go fight a Russian. That's a little like a heavyweight like 642 40 and you're like 581 70. That's kind of interesting. How people really bought into that. Yeah, I know. They never would have commissioned that fight. No, it's just a sanctioned murder. No, it isn't, but I'll tell you, I watched and got jacked up

and I was throwing some, you know, when I watched it, I still got, yeah, I mean, he did all that crazy unorthodox stuff and, you know, I really look through those lenses and a lot of how I conduct business, how I train. I'm doing a lot of different things. A lot of how I jump into the ocean at, in January, you know, and do some cold, you know,

recovery work. Five in the morning. And I remember when I was playing arena balls at the Haunt Beach and it was literally beginning of December and I just tortured myself and Gallows Hill and Salem, 93, yeah, it's a bargain hill. I drove down, I went and I had cops on a two by four, whatever, the little ATV.

ATV, and they came down and said, this sir is everything okay? Like don't hurt yourself. They thought I was trying to kill myself. I was like, would all do a second office, I'm just trying to get some recovery work in. Yeah, sizing yourself to death. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

That's great. How do you maintain the motivation that you get from being an underdog when you're going through all these successful times? Like, you're right now. I don't know if people could call you an underdog. You're going to the Italian sports hall of fame. Yeah, you know, I'll always be an underdog. It's just the way I was always the shortest, smallest, and stature, lightest, not the smartest.

I didn't hit the ovarian lottery, but you know what, I had something with the family component was important to me. But you know, I kind of surrounded my entire office man cave is surrounded by, you know, my clients, jerseys, the autographed footballs, you know, some awards, but I'm blasted with a lot of my ancestors.

So I just bring myself back to what were they going through on that SS canvac? When they came to this country with very low domains, what, like, how did they lack a security? I mean, we live, think about it. You got the cell phone, you got computers, you can Google anything, you know, AI is beautiful today.

So that kind of keeps me just like, you know what? We got this. And our perspective. And honestly, I have a strong face. You know, I really, that's so important and that's the backbone of our family and my wife has been the one who has kept me because let's face it, every great man needs

a good man needs a good woman. And she's kept me from, you know, when I was low, I have got my Jeremy McGuire stories that I could share. That'll be a later date. But she's really kept me, my faith up to go out here and just continue to build this thing. And it's crazy. It's the beautiful thing about football as a player

and even as Asian, it's resiliency. We're all wired like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, a couple last questions. So like we said, you're being induct being inducted in Italian American sports hall famed tonight Is it like the masters did you get to pick your menu? Do you know what I didn't get to pass pick my menu? But I do is create better be good food. Yeah, better be good food because but it's not pressure

It's not gonna hang with my wife's cutlets my mother's meatballs my grandma's lasagna and linguiney So I won't but I'm sure it'll be decent. Okay. But you know in the hall of fame, I gotta give this speech that, you know, I've rep the few times. I thought I was gonna get a few more reps in with the week out crazy and trying to, you know, close out a couple deals for Tommy.

And, you know, obviously my quarterback, EJ Perry, worked out for the Patriots. So any GM's listen in the league. This kid all listen. This is it all this. EJ Perry is an absolute baller. It's a golf ball 360 yachts, 360 dunks and it'll go on the whiteboard and do some mad daemon stuff from Goodwill Hunting.

I love it. You'd be shocked when we go to the combine in Indy in February, the amount of scouts that come up and say they listen to show them were like, why, we're stupid. Yeah, we're actively making teams work. Yeah, we're're you listen to us your team's gonna suck. But I like to see Jay Perry kid and over mass Yeah, you have me so we went to Boston College and then he transferred to play for Zonkel was uncle's a hell of a player We played against each other James Perry brown. Okay, broke every record in the army Yeah, then he goes out has the greatest performance in the East West trying game, 153.9 quarterback rating.

A few guys that played in that game, Tom Brady, Brett Favre, John L. Wei backs it up in the combine. Well, we he played better than John L. Wei, well, John L. Wei is like 60. No, I'm saying in the in past performance. Oh, okay. Sorry, that was a little ambiguous. And then he goes to the combine.

And he has the most athletic test score out of any quarterback. Let's get him. Where are you, Jay Perry guys now? Yeah. So what so what teams I'm looking at as Wikipedia right now, he's been on the Jaguars, Texans, the Michigan Panthers, and then the Texans again. Yeah, and he just worked out for the Patriots this past Tuesday. All practical. Well, they got a quarterback. Yeah. No, and he just worked out for the Patriots this past Tuesday. All practical.

Well, they got a quarterback. Yeah. No, I don't know. I think I got a pretty good judgment on talent. Yeah. Yeah, I hands down. Where EJ Perry guys, we will help you. EJ, EJ is exceptional.

Yeah. What do you want us to make sign EJ Perry dot com? Yeah. It'll just say. I'm telling you, I can drive a golf ball 360 yards. Yeah. EJ is a freak. And look at you, you got to remember what EJ, he grew up in a family of coaches, father high school

football coach, uncle, a Harvard guy, played at Harvard, other uncle coach that the Texans for nine years. He's a college coach now. I mean, they don't make them like this kid. Yeah. But how many players are on the street that are hidden gems? Yeah And you should use us because we are one for one we did draft Josh Allen dot com I don't know if you heard of Josh Allen. He's pretty good at quarter. Yeah, I think he came out of Wyoming

Yeah, yeah, you probably saw because I he probably got an undrafted if we didn't make that there was No plus round the draft and like we said the GM's listen to the show. Yeah, and we gassed them up hard Well, gas up, EJ. He's ready. He's the best. Best he's ever been. I think, look at it. I think I earned a little validation, you know, on my assessment of talent.

And he's phenomenal. So, um, but I'm, yeah, I'm excited for this weekend. Should be fun, uh, down in the lane, nor lanes and, uh, looking forward to, you know, seeing some other guys play on Saturday night as well. Yeah, yeah. It's been a crazy week for you and we appreciate you stopping by. Sounds like a week of a lifetime. Really? Is there any particular part of your speech night, any lines that you're working on? You want to just give like one last rep right now? Oh, man. What do we have? One, I, you know, there's definitely a part of the speech that I hope to listen

as tonight because I kind of want to save it for a chuckle. Yeah. But I mean, I think at the end of the day, you know, really, Nick, James Baldwin, the great writer came and said, Nick, I come into this world, Nick and I should leave. So leave a legacy that you and your family are proud of and that can carry on. And Frank Sinatra made the words, the best is yet to come. I listened to a lot of his music

and I just love the song My Way. So I am blessed to be doing this and running SCS Sports My Way. And just, you know, I'm excited to embrace tonight. That's it. Yeah, big night. It's great. I mean, it's a great week. All right, last question I had for you. It's a robot question, RHOB's it. Yeah. Yeah. Big night. It's great. I mean, it's a great week.

All right. Last question I had for you. It's a rowback question. RHOBACK.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q's, this poll is hoodies, yoghurt shorts, everything rowback.com promo code take. So we're going to run this next week. Quickly tell us your seven fishes because it's going to be right before Christmas. Seven fishes. I's on this? Well, like growing up as a kid. Yeah, it's challenging now because my wife got a shellfish allergy. Oh, no.

And my daughter, Gianna, is going to shellfish her. My daughter, Gianna, her and I wrote a early chapter book. She suffers from juvenile arthritis. Okay. And we wrote this together and I actually visited Chicago Children's Hospital yesterday and brought gifts. And she made these pocket full of sun shines, little kits to go to the kids with toys on them, which I'm

cool about. So, I mean, look at it, if I'm not eating at the house, it'd be lobster, it would be, you know, whitefish, little bit, I would say it would be some clam. It would be clams? Yeah. I would also, my late grandma, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my Nana used to make unbelievable stuff squid. Yeah, and her bread comes with a lot of day. You know, I, I'm a big Italian side in guy.

I need that. I'm mega's for my, for my, my cognitive function. I do like, I love, I love really, really high end good tuna. Where we, I'm losing track in numbers. I think that was five. It was five or six, yeah. Yeah, I mean, if I had to go shrimp, yeah, you know, I would say not shrimp,

or I would go with just regular pale in each shrimp. The big jumbo shrimp. Yup, yup. Yeah, with that husk radish. Yup, lapatizer. Yeah, a little appetizer. It is, so I mean, I Yeah, a little appetizer. Best. It is.

So, I mean, I love, my wife makes a really good homemade ravioli, which is kind of cool in my mother-in-law. We might need a chance to lot of cookbook. That'd be good, yeah. Yeah, you know, I'm, but I'm, I'm, I'm just mentioning that, but I, you, we're talking about working out. I mean, I, my diet is really clean six days a week, like scary clean, but seventh day, that's it.

I'm eating like I'm 320 pounds. I'll set Sunday, Sunday, Tuesday, and I eat a whole entire bag of kettle chips, the whole opinion of kettle chips, early afternoon when I'm home with a smile on my face. I love that. But I'm out there Monday morning, and I'm living.

Grinding, yeah. Grinding. Not to tell you how to do your job, but you need to have a word with the ESPN about the cutlets graphic. That's the thing. Do you see the chicken cutlets they put up? Yeah, that's not chicken cutlets.

No, it isn't. I, you know, and I know, I probably the designer was an Italian. Yeah, the digital guy, but I get representation matters. That's why he does an Italian. Hey, but you know, the experience creates wisdom. I'm sure they'll get it right to second thought. Yeah, all right. Well, Sean. Thank you so much. Congratulations again

It feels like you know everything these moments that you have in your life where it's like everything's kind of setting into place It's really cool to watch no. I very very blessed and Still ultra motivated, but I'll always be the kid from witchcraft heights 0197. Oh, so that being said Wax on wax off. Hehehe. Shantatulado was brought to you by Chiles. Fast food isn't cheap anymore, and social media is filled with complaints.

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It is the holidays and in the spirit of giving and the holidays, I just like to clean up and I will gladly do another pick this weekend, Hank. No extra seven minutes. For the holidays. Well, for it, we agreed to the extra minutes, but you know what? For the holidays.

I'm gonna wipe that slate clean. You know, it's the spirit of giving, especially to the less fortunate and if Hank's comfortable taking the charity of having an extra pick this weekend. For the holidays. It's the time to give to charity. This is the time of year when I opened up my pocketbook

to various charities, Henry Lockwood's gonna be one of them. So Hank, congratulations on being a charity case and happy holidays. Thanks. Yeah, I was getting frustrated in the moment because it was like one of those clear signs where all you had to do was give in to Hank and everyone be like, Hank is a charity case

and said he resisted everyone's like, PFT's scared. Yeah. It was one of those, these games come up all the time in this office where it's like, if you react correctly, people are just gonna be like, that guy is being a bitch about it.

Yeah, so the reason why, first of all, I didn't bring up an extra game. So the reason why I was upset about was because Hank has been dancing around this and then he got in Max's ear and told Max to ask for the holiday. For the extra game for the holiday. So I was really, I was mad at Hank taking the ultimate cowards way out and not even bringing up himself.

And so I didn't want to give him. Hank around to that. But now I've had some time to think about it. And yeah, let's do, it's the season of charity giving. What were you saying, Matt? I said, Hank out and nothing to do with that. I just thought it would be good for the show if we had an extra getting made. So find out a little bit more competitive. The pancakes are getting interesting. I mean, I've gone from first to last within two weeks.

That would mean the last. Jake has been really. He's been cooking the books. Yep. Man, if Max lost this to another 24 hour stream, you know, I really think I'm kidding. I'll just eat the 24 pancakes. No, I don't think you're eating. I'm like, I similar to what I was just saying with the PFT Hank thing. I like saying you're cheating so that you get upset when I will not look into it and I trust you more

than any person on this show. Appreciate it. So that's the joke there. Yeah, where it's like, you know, that's the joke there. Yeah. Where it's like, you know, it's like you didn't hit a whole one. No, that's true. He did not. Yeah, I'm right exactly.

And that was a quick way to joke so part of my take. A quick man would never have done this. Okay, guys on checks. Hey guys, my boyfriend and I are in our early 30s and have been living together for about a year now and neither of us can surprise the other. We agreed to find presence for each other scavenger hunt style, like gift cards towards romantic date night, each other's favorite Christmas treat and so on. Do you guys have any creative scavenger hunt ideas that can surprise my boyfriend? He's an AWL love sports, sports betting, video games, talking shit on Twitter and arguing football.

Oh, that means he's definitely a troll. We're also big Florida state talking shit on Twitter and arguing football. Oh, that means he's definitely a troll. We're also big Florida state talking shit on Twitter. Yeah. So he's extra down this December after getting totally raw by the committee. Thanks guys. If the girlfriend knows the boyfriend likes to talk shit on Twitter, that means he has many burner accounts.

It means that he's talking shit on Twitter a lot. Yeah, that there's numerous date nights during the week, where she's like, what are you doing on your phone? He's like, I'm just replying to big cat telling me there's a pussy. Yeah, that means he's a prime candidate for I use to listen to part of my take all the time and then let Max on hate to show now. Not only listen all the time.

And I know that Max is on the show all the time because I listen all the time. Yeah, I've gone, my listening's gone from all the time to all the time. We love those people too, by the way, for the record. I do love those people. They're passionate. Yeah, if you've been dating for long enough,

it's hard to surprise sometimes. I may recommend a tattoo. That's gonna be my answer to everything now. It's just get a tattoo. Surprise. Confetti bomb. Get him a dog. If you, that's really all you can do

in terms of surprising a significant other, if you've been dating them, married to them for a long time, you have to make a big life decision without consulting them. That is a surprise, by house. Get him a car. No, here's what you do. Like something that's really reckless. You go out and you rent a car,

and then you put a giant fucking bow on it in the driveway. Have him come home. I got you this car and then like two days later, we got to take the car back. That would be a good surprise. Put your life savings on a parlay. Reckless. Surprise. People still ice each other.

Is that a thing that happens? Sure. Yes, it's awesome. Yeah. Hey, PMT boys, my boyfriend works Christmas day so we're celebrating Christmas Eve and splitting time between his family and mine When I ask if that's okay He said as long as my parents have Sunday ticket I blame you guys for his football obsession, but my question is should I be annoyed that there's football on a holiday?

Wait, he works on Christmas day. That's just watching football Read the question again, Hank my boyfriend works Christmas day. That's just watching football. Read the question, Gennadyk. My boyfriend works Christmas day. So we're celebrating Christmas Eve and splitting time between his family and mine. When I asked him if that's okay. He said as long as my parents have Sunday tickets. Christmas Eve Day is a Sunday,

there's gonna be NFL on all day on Sunday. Yeah, I think that's a appropriate question. But no, you shouldn't be annoyed. No, I don't like when football is on Christmas because you already have Christmas, you already have stuff happening. I'd rather have them be separate. I would.

But if it's on a Sunday, it's on a Sunday. Yeah, right, there's nothing you can do about it. But if I had to pick the perfect time, I think Christmas on Thursday is probably the best. Or Christmas Eve Thursday. So that way Friday's Christmas. And then you get the extra, you know what I mean? Like you leave work on Tuesday before Christmas. I think I don't come back till the like, fifth, I think the perfect set up is Christmas Eve on Wednesday. Wednesday, okay?

Christmas day on Thursday, everyone gets that day off, then you have the weekend, and then next week, you've got new year's eve. You get like two weeks off. You get two weeks, yeah, two full weeks off. Two full weeks off at that point. That's the ideal setup. Listen, the NFL has us by the balls.

They could put an NFL game on any calendar day of the year, and we would have no choice but to watch it. Yes. I'm not gonna turn my back on the other day. That's my point is like, I'd rather... I'll watch the NFL no matter what. I'd rather have it on a day when we don't have something else. If the NFL had a surprise midday game on Election Day,

democracy would stop in America. There would be no elections anymore. Ooh, Christmas is on a Wednesday next year. Nice. Have you heard anyone talk about the NBA Christmas games this year? No, the NFL has killed it's Scott. Like it's crazy. I forgot. Like NBA used to be. Oh, no, it was. That was like when the NBA started. Now the like Wednesday NBA going to start. Well, is that just because the NFL has had like the last three years where we've been on a weekend?

I think so. I think that's it, right? Maybe. Like, because they did the Saturday, Christmas day, like last year there was a bunch of games. So I think it's, I think we're now out of the cycle where the NFL will take Christmas. No, that's not a fun final. Don't figure it out a way. They'll do a special Wednesday game. Yeah, I know.

38th of all on Wednesday. Yeah, MLB will probably do like their draft on Christmas day. Oh, Jared and nobody will know. Jared hit me back. Just to just to close a loop on that. Jared Krabba is our good friend who we tried to call at like midnight on Sunday. He hit me back. He said that someone from MLB texted him on Saturday night being like, are you watching this and he replied, what are you talking about?

And the guy from the MLB was.B. was like, exactly, like this was a bad idea right now. When you've lost Jared Carabas, yeah. You've lost him, everyone. He lost him now. He didn't know. So I just moved in with my boyfriend. I thought it would be a fun idea if we started making nice elaborate dinners on Sundays

since we have time to do so, unlike during the week. He doesn't want to because every NFL Sunday he orders a 12-inch Italian sub and a 12-inch cheese steak for the one o'clock and four o'clock games. He complains non-stop about his stomach hurts all day Sunday, but says it's part of the fun to be immobilized watching football a day with the food. What should I do? I mean this guy's got the plan almost perfectly right. You have to have two separate meals for each game. And even if you're not hungry for the four o'clock game,

you have to start a new meal just to give your body like a new feeling and putting myself through a new experience because there's a new game on. I don't know. All these questions are just kind of like, how come you guys are so degenerate when it comes to your bodies and football? Yeah, I wish I operated a different way

where I felt good on Sundays. But that's kind of crazy, right? Last couple of Sundays, when dinner time comes around, I'm like, I don't even know if I want to eat. Yeah, and then I do out of peer pressure. Maybe do a six inch for each game. Yeah, how about that? And chips. Two sub methods I used to do at all times,

shorter to when you order subs, and then you have one for later. I've him do all the food prep, you can do the cooking. Yeah, that's not a bad idea. It sounds like he's ordering a part of my cheese steak. So more than married. Plug God. Yeah.

Big guy combo. All right, last one. Hey big cat, PFT, big stinky loser max. Yup. I have a holiday question for you. What is an appropriate price range for a significant other of one year? Love you guys.

Good question. Are you pregnant? If you're pregnant, I think it doubles, but I'm gonna say $250. I was gonna say, three to 500 depending on how good the blow jobs are. Yeah, if he's really good. If he's good at giving you a blow job. No, if he's good at giving you a blow job,

if he's good at getting head. Yeah, yeah. Like I'm terrible. I'm maybe the worst person in the world at getting head. Three to five, yeah. A year, I think 500, it sounds about right. Yeah, like if your year's kind of serious, 500's a lot.

But your year's kind of serious. It depends on what his financial situation's like. Yeah. This could be a college kit. True. Yeah. If you're in college, I'd say anywhere. College is different.

That college is different. In a adult year relationship, is this 500 not that crazy? If you're 30 or above, I would say 500 is probably in the right zone. What you started 500 after a year, what's two years? Yeah, I got it leaves. Yeah, but then it goes down. Remember it goes down.

Like you go until you have to get married and then after that you just stop. You just forget everything. Stop. I don't have to get. And it's also going to be in Calm who cares. I'm over 500 this year for the record. Are you? Yeah, just what you get. Don't worry about it. No spoilers. Leave it out. Why would I, like, just not say it. But I wanna know. You could leave it out. I could just tell you later. I just want everyone to walk around the show.

You just wanted to flex and you spent $500. Is this a way? Is this a way? Is this a way you get here? Is it something for yourself too, though? Is it like a trip? Nope. This is, what Max is doing is very sneaky.

His girlfriend is gonna hear this and then she's gonna be like, oh fuck, I gotta get my friends. No, it'll be like one of my girlfriend's, friend's, boy friends will tell their, it'll get back, it'll get back. Is it a vacuum? No, it's not.

Don't do that, dude. I did that on one year. I almost got a girl, a, a, a roomba, a really nice one. But like a top of the line one, where like I was pumped about too. And then it's like, I thought what I was doing was taking away the responsibility of vacuuming.

No. But then I thought, it's just not a bad, it's not a good look to get a woman of vacuum Christmas. All right, so 300? Maybe my worst idea. I think it fluctuates anywhere between one and five, depending on what stage of life you're in. Definitely pretty big. Yeah, I think anything over, if you're 28 or older, I think 500 is appropriate for a year

because that 28 or older year relationship, that's not, you know, you're not just jumping into year relationships. Yeah. But if you're in your like early 20s, then like 200, 300? I think it also matters whether or not this is the first Christmas that they've had together. They've been together for a year. Did you get, what did you get her on the first Christmas? Oh, actually, that's actually how you, it's decided.

Are you spending Christmas together? If it's a yes, then it's 500. If it's a no, then it's like 200. Yeah. Because like if it's, you are, then that's serious. That's families, that's everything. Also, you have to take into account the flight at that age. Yeah.

It's like, oh, well, I spent 300 on the flight, so I'm only spending 100 on your gift. True. True. All right. Good show, boys. Friday. Oh, we have a good friend, Julian Edmund back.

He's gonna be in studio tomorrow. All right, defensive back on the all-white team. Yeah. Ah, I walked by. They're simming it. Oh, yeah, I saw it. We were down 12 with a minute left. Oh, I saw the entire first half.

It looked like, I think Tyree Keele had 250 yards in the first half. Yeah. It looked like we were gonna cover it though. Yeah. Yeah, because this is 12 and a half. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

All right, numbers. 40. 18. 71. 3, 8, 20. Pug. Shane 10, Pug 74. What are you gonna say?

Pug. So I need... I need Pug to win this. I just need Pug. What's Pug plug number again? Do that thing where you rig it for but for plug 74 plug 100 Is that the first 100 ever?

The old machine every number hit Did we have 100? on max you know this Remember when Hank got it for the first time it was the last number, too Crazy moment Why do you need pug to get it? It'll be fun. Just find a route for pug. Yeah, okay. Yeah, we're well I mean, but you rooting for pug means you'll never get it Everyone is like my team wins more than everyone else's teams in this game.

You get a two-day, like two-day. Yeah, that is a narrative that I am the biggest loser. My teams are the best. But do are they? Yes. You don't win anything. No one wins anything. But you really don't win anything.

You never see any wins. No, but you have the biggest losses. Correct. Yeah, which would make you the biggest loot But you are one super balls been to an NBA fine up Care about you. You can't another super ball. He can't hang the finals because one world series the finals I got a world series and a Stanley cup. I just in the last whatever 10 years. No, well Yeah, I mean I have if we're talking about

Shows started. Yes, it's show started of a world series. I've only been here for a year How many what do you have since the show started? I have so many finals appearances Hang the banner. Yeah, so don't roof or puck I'm gonna roof or puck all right. Well, P pug will never get it. Pug of your regardless. I've gotten this. And the old one. Pug of your regardless. I have not.

Oh, thanks to Max. Yeah. Pug is also an eagle's thing. Yeah, but he's a nice one. He's different. Yeah, we're rooting for him. We're rooting for pug's eagles. We're not rooting for your eagles.

Hey, memes, can we just add an eclipse of Max saying I'm a loser one more time at the other show? I am going to edit that in which I will do it because I just do whatever you guys say You're a great-of-your-job, Max. Alright, see you, everyone. Love you guys. I am a loser I'm the one I'm saying I'm saying anyway Days when I think of my shyness I'm going to the level to you I'm going to the level to you Don't want me to make me up

I need a home, a drawday I need less to say, I'm on the set end It's for me, so a little bit Darling, darling, life is okay, say I'm clean Like it's the better to be safe than sorry It's the better to be safe than sorry Like it's the better to be safe than sorry Say, come on me

Say, come on me. Stay, oh, I have you gone. You're not too long to live. Things that you say, you get feeling awful. Just wait a little bit. You're all in the top, talk to me for nothing. You shine away. Love coming for you anyway. You're coming a lot You're not coming for you to do anybody

You're coming for you to do anybody You're not coming for you to do anybody Take on me Take me on I'll be gone in a deep I'm so proud of you!