Pardon My Take - Dan Orlovsky Breaking Down Super Wild Card Weekend, Notre Dame Advances, Picks And Preview + Fyre Fest Of The Week

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Wake up the echoes the fighting Irish are off to the National Championship. Drew Allar had an all time stinker and Penn State falls short again (00:00:00-00:19:33). Weekend picks and preview for every game of Super Wild Card Weekend and PFT is feeling confident about the Commanders (00:19:33-01:07:42). Dan Orlovsky joins the show to talk football, what has changed on the Ravens Defense, Chargers/Texans and tons more (01:07:42-01:44:27). We finish with Fyre Fest of the week (01:44:27-02:06:04).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Today is Friday, January 10th. And wake up the echoes, PFT, because the Notre Dame Fighting Irish are in the College Football National Championship. What's that sound, big cat? It's the echoes? Yes, it's the echoes. But also, there's a second sound. What's that sound big cat? It's the echoes? Yes it's the echoes but also there's another there's a second sound. What's the sound? It's Lou Holtz putting in his biting teeth. Licking his lips. And it was an instant

classic. Yep. Like such a great game. I thought it was gonna be a snoozer. First half was neither offense really did anything. Penn State went into halftime up 10-3. Whatever Marcus Freeman did at halftime, he deserves all the credit because that game was won in the third quarter and how Notre Dame came out and they took it right to Penn State, took the lead. Obviously there was, you know, Penn State came back, they traded some drives and the big story, as much as I would like to do the narrative that James Franklin can't win a big game. Mm-hmm

Drew Aller was horrific. I agree, but I disagree on one point I think the game was won in the late second quarter Oh when and jelly came in Stephen jelly and jelly and jelly did get him a quick three and jelly got in and The whole vibe change. It's true entire vibe flipped max got taken out by an Italian sub Man and it was I mean listen that game back and forth Riley Leonard made a huge mistake Penn State takes the lead and then drew our makes like draw or through three three interceptions today And and only one of them counted because the other two Phantom well the first one actually was a real hold but the second one was just it was such a bad throw Three interceptions today and only one of them counted because the other two, uh, Phantom,

well the first one actually was a real hold, but the second one was just, it was such a bad throw they shouldn't have thrown a flag because it had no impact on the play. Uh, but that throw is bad call too. He has a bad call. I get that he didn't turn his head around. Yeah. And then the fans had a little university Texas moment. Yeah.

You know how mad you have to be to make an Irish guy throw his beer? Seriously? Like pretty up on it. That's a bad call. Yeah, that's a really bad call. And so but yeah, he he came back and He he had some really bad interceptions really bad. There's the last one was just 40 seconds left why can't the one thing you can't do in that situation is make a throw like that and He was so bad that even the last lateral of the game he overthrew and threw out of bounds. But I, like Drew Aller was horrific.

And by the way, do we have a little due to do with Brandon Walker? Because I think on this show on Wednesday he said, Drew Aller doesn't turn the ball over and that's why Penn State's gonna win the game. That's our college football expert. We apologize on behalf of our college football expert. He's embarrassed us one, one day into being our college football expert.

And he didn't show his face here to be on this show to take responsibility for that mistake either. It's crazy. He's ducking it. Yeah. Uh, very, very bad interception at the end. They got the ball back and it's like, okay, you have a chance, but the one thing that you can't do is turn the ball over and try to push too hard because then they're going to be in field goal range. And that's exactly what he goes on. He does. I actually think a big impact on this game was when Tyler Warren got taken out. You remember that on the side lines from the concussion. So they kept him out

for a little bit. And he looked like he was very concussed, just from what you saw on the clip. And then he comes comes back on the field he didn't look like the same guy when he came back right he didn't and and uh he told the team doctor they're trying to do the concussion test that's a hip violation yeah a good point get back in there son yeah play ball and then he goes back and he seemed like he was out of sorts around the line of scrimmage he didn't look right he wasn't running fast he wasn't making heads up plays. I think that there was that that to me when you take Tyler Warren away from Penn State,

then you take away all the threat of their their physical passing because their wide receivers can't catch a ball. No, they can't catch a ball. He can't get open. I mean, yeah, Tyler Warren is so much fun to watch because he is like if you need three yards, he's going to get you seven. Yeah, he's after contact. But so Marcus Freeman was incredible. I thought he coached a great game I thought that play at the end of the game where they had third in whatever it was five and The conservative thing would be to just run the ball again with Riley Leonard and they read they rolled out Riley Leonard He hit that perfect pass to Faison. I believe who ended up up getting like 15 yards. Uh, and Riley Leonard, he wasn't great, but he made big plays at big moments. Like he made that throw. He made

a couple of big runs, alluded a couple of big time sacks that would have been like, you know, very detrimental. And it, I don't know, like I Marcus Freeman, I'm a believer. Like he last game when he, when he pants Kirby smart, this this game how they came out a halftime because I Think we all agree like halftime It looked like Penn State was gonna win this game easily because they were just bullying Notre Dame on both lines Well, it took him a second to figure out the fact that they could get their lime and shoving people over right and they were and They were in the backfield when they were on defense and they were just running the ball down Notre Dame's throat And then Notre Dame came out shot out of

a cannon and oh We got to mention Jeremiah love one of the one of the best like second effort third effort touchdown runs three dudes hanging I'm even sure that was a great run also Penn State's running backs all of them Yeah, had some great runs too. It was a really good football game. It came down to the quarterback It was and now it makes sense that drowler is staying in school. Like I think people scratch their head. They're like them and that's not, that doesn't make any sense. He's, he would be a first round pick. Uh, he's got some things to work on. Yeah. Who said he would be a first round pick? I think there was people that were saying, I've heard people say that in this quarterback class, especially

I've heard people say he's like consensus, best NFL prospect remaining. Yeah, it's like a Christian Hackenberg Yeah, hey second-round pick right can an arm can an arm? Uh, so we should talk to max Oh By the way, I wanted to mention Colin Coward. So I said this to you right before we started He tweeted you see Riley Leonard. I see Josh Allen That sounds racist He tweeted, you see Riley Leonard. I see Josh Allen. That sounds racist. I was like, okay.

The only explanation for that is that he is a virulent racist. The running style, I guess, but like, I don't know. There's literally nothing about it. I think it's bowling people over running the football. I guess maybe. Yeah. And maybe I guess if you gave- But gave Josh is a little he's way more elusive Yeah, he is, but I think that might be the only thing but he sees he sees Josh Allen. So Max I'm you did Colin Coward a long time ago. Yeah, I actually blocked him fake soup. Hell. Yes. That was uh, that was a bad one

Yeah now Drew Aller just can't play like that. The defense made enough plays to keep you in that game. You get that sack when Notre Dame is driving to kick the field goal to take the lead. And that play was so long developing and there was nothing there. Just throw the ball out of bounds.

You don't need to be a hero. There's 20 seconds left. The chances of you going down and actually winning that game are so slim. Just take the sack. But that's just like a college quarterback who doesn't know what he's doing yet. Like he's still a dumb kid. Yeah. Like I felt, I felt so he also asked, so it was unbelievable. Like that, that pick that, that he had in the third or third. He was a fourth quarter when we didn't see him Yeah, Notre Dame looked like they were taking control of the game. We put together a nice drive tie it up. I

Don't know. I'm all over the place, but it's it's disappointing, but I don't know that last kick was kind of weird, too, wasn't it? That last kick was crazy. It was going right the whole time Yeah, and then right before the upgrade it just came back left. It was going right the whole time. Yeah. And then right before the upgrade, it just came back left. It was very, very strange. And Mitch Jeter, Mason Crosby type. Yeah. He's been bad this year. He was injured, but he's been nails in the playoffs. I think he's seven for eight now in the playoffs and Notre Dame. Listen, I don't know if they can beat Texas or Ohio State, but he, okay, you're shaking your head, Max head max No names just coached really well and they like I don't know they they Raleigh-Lenard did make some mistakes tonight, but if he doesn't throw any interceptions like their team that can just kind of hang around I

Think they're good. Yeah, I mean it's gonna be they're gonna be like eight and a half point underdogs Probably to Ohio State if I'll stay I don't know that they can hang around They're gonna be like eight and a half point underdogs probably to Ohio State if Ohio State I don't know that they can hang around We'll see we'll see I just give a lot of credit to Notre Dame tonight Marcus Freeman has yes coached an incredible playoffs James Frank they they they went up ten nothing and took their foot off the gas Yeah, they were dominating the game and then I don't know what it was that first drive in this in the third quarter It was the first drive to start the second half No, they just went right down the field and it was like all the juice they needed was in that and then they got a three and out.

And then Penn State went three and out. Yeah yeah and it was just like this game has just flipped on its head whatever Marcus Freeman just decided to adjust or do at halftime it worked because they came out a completely different team. I think Penn State had seven plays in the third. They went three and out then Tyler Warren got like a 20 yard catch and then they went and then they were the fourth down on the next three plays. Yeah. And now James Franklin, I mean, we're not doing the narrative, but should we? He can't win the big one because they, although is

it not the big one? I think this was a big one, but hold on. It's not his fault. They went from underdogs to favorites right before kickoff Yeah, that was weird. That was weird. Well, it's drew aller being on a yacht Which was a fake rumor that was put out there. We think we had Notre Dame flu Yeah, we had Notre Dame flu. We also had Penn State having diarrhea Yep, and then drew our own a yacht drew our own a yacht I don't know if any of those were true, but I would say big cat Uh, it is a fact that this was a big one. Yeah, it was a big one. Did you win it?

No, they didn't beat anyone good this year. It's not his fault, but it is a fact. Yeah, I mean they They beat they didn't beat anyone on their level in terms of like Illinois beat, South Carolina You if they miss her, I would know I should have been in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah. That's a, but you know, you, you know that like they didn't, I mean they had, I don't play. This was their second big test and they, or they they're third cause they played Oregon, Ohio state in Notre Dame and they lost all three. It would be nice to have wide receivers. Penn state's wide receivers are atrocious in the modern era. Zero catches in the modern era of saying you typically want a wide receiver to catch the ball zero catches and like

I'm I'm not gonna go back and watch the film But if you were to go back and watch the film, I don't think there were any like missed wide open wide receivers No, no, like they every time that you they did that little replay where you can look out on the field He had nothing out there except for Tyler Warren. Yeah. Nobody's rooting for No Day in Red Havoc. What are you gonna say? In IE?

No, I just said I'm not gonna watch the film. Yeah, I'm not gonna watch the film. Why not? You gotta get better. I don't even know how to watch film. Hank, what are your thoughts on tonight's game? Hank, do you know how to watch film? Yeah.

Tell me how to watch a film. If I wanted to go back and watch you all 22 Tell me how I would do ask Gruden Google. Yep film PSU film I'll look into that. Okay, I'm gonna Google that right now and just see PSU Hank seriously though. What are your thoughts in the game? I had Penn State Okay, okay at the end they choked at the end that was an absolute choke job like There's no world where that shouldn't have gone to overtime. Did you listen to our college football expert is that why you took Penn State?

Yeah. Oh no. And Jeff and he's ruining brain and Walker. That actually known right that my parlay wasn't that bad. No I know. And it went to overtime. If we went to overtime, all we do was a Tyler Warren touchdown and touchdown. Drew Rower. If we go to overtime and he goes a two, three, four over times, he's going to get one.

Drew Rower. So I was mentally in overtime already. I know when you look up PSU football film, the first thing that comes up is Paterno, the film. Oh no. Have you seen that film? I don't think I've watched that one. You should watch that one. Not great. No. You watched it? I Don't think you should watch that one not great

No, you watched it. I did wait to know the you know one. Yeah, T. Lowe's in it is he yeah He's in the opening scene. He's like he's like in the front row. They use like footage from a game It actually wasn't terrible. I watch anything with the cheetah. Yeah All right, So two other things Not college football related. Do you guys Ohio State tomorrow night? You bet no house it I'm I think I'm gonna take Ohio State Yeah, I like Strictly, it's gonna be Ohio State, but I know over the Texas Notre Dame Championship is more fun for vibes

Why's that? I don't know, just is. I never really liked the Ohio State as a non-college football fan, but I just, Ohio State's just not, never been my favorite. Is it the Scarlet? Texas. I think it's the gray more than anything. It's the Scarlet and the gray?

Yeah, mostly the gray. It just ain't. I feel like they're always really good, they're never really fun. But this team's more fun. Cardell was fun. Yeah. But it went 59-0 against Wisconsin Really good. They're never really fun, but this seems more Cardell was fun. Yeah But it went 59 nothing against Wisconsin the Big Ten Championship game. Yeah

Yeah, we're at no doubt the water at Wisconsin only lost like seven So to two other things one is we already taped our preview We obviously didn't know because they reported it later in the day, but the game in LA is being moved to Arizona. Obviously we hope everyone's okay. Oh, actually, we didn't talk about that game. So we'll talk about that game on Sunday. Yeah, but we do hope everybody's okay.

Yeah, yeah, we do hope everyone's okay. But yeah, that's, I don't know, it's gonna be weird. I don't know if there's enough. I mean, there's gotta be. It's the first game, first playoff game that has changed location since like the 1930s. Oh shit. There was a game, it was,

I forget who was playing against Boston at the time, because Boston had a football team, but then they moved that game to the Polo grounds, because- Favorite stadium. Because there weren't enough tickets sold. Polo grounds is such a fun stadium just to look at yeah They should have played that game in st. Louis Well, oh they should have that would have rocked for the Rams fans

That would have rocked. Yep. Yep. You're right Good they should have played that game in st. Louis fuck That would have been cool. Yeah, that is weird Like you think a bunch of people from LA are going to be able to go to that game. They're probably all just worried about their homes and figuring out what to do. Yeah, I don't know. And there's probably a decent amount of Vikings fans down in Arizona, maybe for the winter. I don't know.

Yeah, or retirees. Yeah, right. So weird, weird setup. The other one was a stat that came from ZanB21. And we should have, we should have seen this because it should have been in the preview. But since 2017, Sean Payton is 30 and 12 against bald head coaches. It's a pretty big sample size. He's going up against Sean McDermott on Sunday. That makes me very nervous because I love the Bills in that game. Yeah. So you read them off earlier. A number of those were Dan Quinn game a lot of a lot of them were Dan Quinn games

Yeah, there was a was there a Caldwell in there. There's a call. Well, you only so Zan B 21 only showed he Basically, I was like this bullshit. He's like you don't think I did my work. So he showed 2017 through 2019 There was a Caldwell. There, there was a Sean McDermott, there was Todd Bowles, there was four Dan Quinn wins. You also mentioned Mike Tomlin. I don't think Mike Tomlin is bald. Or at least I don't think that he was bald. He's definitely thinning, but I don't think he was bald at the time. He's pretty bald. I think he shaved his head recently, but if you go back like two years ago,

I think Mike Tomlin had hair. But Mike Tomlin, 2017, can you even find that? Coach's photo. 2017. Yeah, you're right. He had a little more hair there, if this is correct. So maybe ZanB21, maybe we shouldn't trust this stat. I don't know.

I like the stat, though. It's a great stat. I appreciate the legwork that he did. It's kind of stat you need Okay Let's kick it to ourselves for more Football talk we're gonna preview every game for Saturday Sunday max you okay birds now birds. Yeah birds birds Mm-hmm birds. I like I'm a Penn State fan, but I'm this isn't Eagles. This isn't Eagles Connor Griffin I feel bad for Connor that he's devastated that was one that I felt bad. I feel bad for Connor Griffin

I feel bad for my older brother. Yeah, that's that's basically how Jeff D. Low Jeff D. Low feel bad for Jeff D Low I feel bad for myself a little bit, but I feel more bad for them What's that like feeling bad for yourself like you should you feel bad for yourself because? You rooted for the same team as them is what you feel bad for Like it wasn't paying calling you a loser I am a loser like if you weren't rooting for Penn State then Connor Griffin and Jeff D. Lowe might have won that game Yeah, yeah But if I had to lose this game to win on Sunday, I will take that trade

Is that what the trade is though? It could be you don't know that that is you're such a loser that your mere presence made other people lose a game Then do you think rooting for your own team is gonna be better? You can't help it you guys are gonna win it so I don't know what you want me to say Eagles It ain't what you should laugh like that drew hours gonna be your next quarterback I don't know what you want me to say Eagles it ain't what he should have laughed like that drew hours gonna be your next quarterback Me just kept saying he wants Tyler Warren to be his next I mean he's the next Josh Allen That's Riley Leonard Riley Wow fine. Yeah. Yeah, I could actually imagine Riley Leonard running a Browns offense better than DTR Oh, well anyone could yeah, I think Tyler Warren

That's a low bar. All right, let's kick it to ourselves for some weekend preview, then Dan Orlovsky talking more football. Okay, let's get to our weekend preview. It's brought to you by our friends at Game Time. It is football season, it's football playoff season, and we can't wait to get out to some games

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It is just back to wild card weekend. Fuck that, I'm gonna call it super wild card weekend. Insane. I'm gonna do it. Do it. Stop me. It's the biggest wild card weekend of them all. Do it.

How do I? Say it. It's super wild card weekend. Thank you. We're not gonna let them take the super out of wild card weekend. Yeah, what is it, just the bowl now? That's, listen, they take the super out of wildcard weekend. Yeah, what is it, just the bowl now? That's the... listen. They take the super out of wildcard weekend, the next thing that's gonna happen is gonna be just the bowl.

It's a slippery slope. Freedom of speech, Roger. Yeah. So, that news, that was also brought to you by our good friend Mike Florio, which I love that he was on the beat for that. He was like, the NFL is slowly taking away the super word in wild card weekend without anyone knowing. Wait, did they slowly take it away or have they taken away? I'm pulling it up. Super wild card is no more. This is from Floria. Wild card weekend is no longer super in name at least after noticing on Tuesday the conspicuous absence of the name that emerged when the NFL added two more playoff person created a six game opening round.

We asked the league if super has been sixed super debuted during the 2020 season playoffs when the NFL introduced a new wildcard format and the addition of a team from each conference, making the playoffs the first change since 1990, the league said via email. I just love that Floreo emailed the league about this super was used the last four seasons to help differentiate from the previous 30 years of the Saturday, Sunday schedule and the further drive awareness of the three days of wild card games. It served its purpose as fans have responded. Well, while it has been retired,

there's no doubt the wild card games will continue to be super. This is the best story ever. Okay. I mean, Floreo just saying, Hey, where the fuck is the super? I got to email the league. That's it. That's a eagle eye that he had right there. He noticed. Yes. Lord is a king and noticing shit like that. I what do you think the NFL is taking it away because they're going to move the word super to something else that they're planning on innovating? Yeah. And that must be using Yeah, like the 18 game season. Is that going to be the super

season? Yeah, because you can't have some mega season. Megas thisas. How about mega wild card weekend? I'm in for mega wild card weekend. Get mega with it. Do you think they're ever gonna go to eight teams? I hope not. Actually, that would be kind of fun when they put the team in London, and they put the team in Brazil. Then I think we might go to Yeah, yeah, more football, more better. Should we say real quick before we get into the games? It is super wild cardend. We still say that on this show. Do we want to do a real quick updated...

What teams do you think can win the Super Bowl this year? Okay. I have... I have... Five teams. And it might look stupid. I think they all can, Big Cat. They all can, technically. I have five teams and it might look really dumb when

one of the one of those teams is not in it and the other one wins so but my five teams are Philadelphia Eagles the Detroit Lions The Baltimore Ravens the Kansas City Chiefs and the Buffalo Bills. Okay, I got the Kansas City Chiefs, the Buffalo Bills, the Baltimore Ravens, the Philadelphia Eagles, the Detroit Lions, that's five, the Washington Commanders. You got to. And the Dallas Cowboys. Okay. Because Michael Parsons just said that they've got the best team and going into next season

they should be Super Bowl champions. It just didn't show on paper this season. Just need it. No scoreboards. They're the winners. Also Also an update from Dallas. Apparently, so the Cowboys blocked the interview with Mike McCarthy to the Bears, and then it was a report that Jerry Jones

and Mike McCarthy spent significant time together Tuesday and Wednesday. They're getting shit done. That's great. It's a power meeting. That's awesome. Are you happy that they blocked Mike? I am happy they blocked Mike. Like thank you to Dallas, right? Yes, thank you Dallas. It's also power meeting. That's awesome. Do you are you happy that they blocked Mike? I am happy they blocked like thank you to Dallas. Yes. Thank you Dallas.

It's also just like kind of fucked up what they're doing where they're putting him in limbo and if they don't resign him, he might miss his window to get another job. Yeah. I don't get this one. You have to resign. If you put Mike McCarthy in limbo, buddy, that floor is going to get broken. Yeah. So I think I think what's going to happen is they're going to resign him. I don't think that they would deny him an opportunity to look for a job and then say, yeah, sorry, we're actually not going to resign you because Dion just agreed to come to town. So that he's been connected to the Raiders at some points. The Raiders also reached out to Hank's good friend, Bill Belichick. Tom Brady sent out an olive branch to Bill to see if Bill would be interested in joining the Raiders. I don't know if Bill has responded.

He is, I guess, busy on the recruiting trail right now. I saw a couple pictures of him meeting with recruits. So he is actually like going boots on the ground, meeting with prospects. But Hank, how would you feel if Tom Brady and Bill got back together one last ride but it was for the Raiders? I'd be happy I'd be happy to see it it's you know I was saying it to you yesterday at PFT it's like parents getting divorced you know I'm grown up it's no longer you know my childhood but I would like to see them

come together and and and bring that joy and love to another fan base I that wouldn't bother me. That's very big of you. Yeah, say that yeah I think it's actually a fucked up move for the Raiders to do this Like embarrassing for the Raiders to do this Yeah to have the the two guys who are responsible for your saddest moment your most heartbreaking moment the tuck rule That you're still angry about now. You're like, Hey, can you just come fix us? Yeah. After you broke us? Yeah. We, yeah, we need your help. Also, if you look at the Raiders coaches, they've had like 16 coaches in the last 30 years. I think it was 12 and 20. It's insane.

So I think they're, they're averaging one and a half years per coach. Yeah. Which is absolutely nuts. Not a way to do it. No. But yeah, that would be fun. Now I obviously would be fucked for college football if Belichick was just like, yeah, you know what? I'm going back to the NFL. But as fans of storylines, which we are.

Would be incredible. It would be incredible. Maybe you can coach both. Yeah. Saturdays and Sundays. Yeah, feeder system. Okay, let's get some games. I'm excited for these games. I'm excited.

This is, this is, I know I have a bunch of top weekends, but in sports, like super wildcard weekend is, is very high up there, especially because we have college football playoffs too. Like this is a weekend I look forward to all year. Yeah. When you say that like feast week is your favorite week, it's one of that's like seven favorite sports. We got you got feasts, hand up, feast week feels like the outlier. The others are conference championship week. Yeah. First weekend of March Badness, second weekend of March Madness, but really first weekend. The Masters, Kentucky Derby, and usually when there's a big fight

and there's NBA and NHL playoffs. Yeah. While Super Wild Card weekend, divisional round weekend, I offer championship weekend. I'm usually more of a weekend, divisional round weekend, championship weekend. I'm usually more of a fan of divisional round weekend, but for some reason this year, the super really, it got to me. Yeah. Okay. It is super.

And then just throw in a random like October weekend when the slate is just insane and it's like, you know, five awesome college football matchups and five awesome NFL matchups. Yeah. No, I'm very excited for this weekend. The game should be awesome. And yeah uh, yeah, this is just, it's an exciting time to be alive. It is. All right. So first game up. Chargers at Texans. Uh, I updated my lines last night. Let me make sure they're all good.

Chargers at Texans, I believe, sorry, this is bad. Chargers at Texans. I think the Texans are three point yes so three point underdogs at home over under is 42 and a half. This is a tough game for me because I the Chargers should win this game. The Texans offense is not good it has proven to be not good all year. They are 31st in early down success rate. But the Houston defense is very good. And we also have a fun matchup. Lad McConkey is going up against his former teammate, Kamari Lassiter. And I think Lad has said that he is the toughest cornerback he ever played in practice at Georgia. But I'm believing

in the Chargers. I'm just a little hesitant because I do think Houston's defense is that good and they can keep it in this game and muck it up. So is it going to be against Lasseter or is it going to be against Stingley? It depends on where he goes. I mean, if he's in the slot, it's gonna be Lasseter. Yeah. I was thinking, um, this, this game is, you know what it is? It's strength for strength all around because you've got good cornerbacks against Lad lad and then you've got some other wide receivers who are going to have to step up. I actually like Josh Palmer in this game. Ooh, but then you have the two defensive ends for Houston.

You've got a Hunter and Will Anderson going up against Alton Slater. Yup. Strength on strike, the anchors, strength on strength game. Uh, and then there's just a lot of stuff, a lot of cool shit to keep your eye on in this game The Texans according to sports info solutions 25th in the league with a point 22 EPA per play when opponents are targeting the middle of the field But they are first in the NFL with negative point 11 EPA per play when opponents target the perimeter of the field Which would seem to say it will be a tough day for lad to eat Yeah, the lads not gonna eat on on Sunday. Yeah, and then I kind of why I like Josh Ballmer on the reverse side

the Chargers do play a lot of too high safety and when shroud goes up against these eight touchdown seven interception and His passer rating is 31st in the NFL against that type of defense. We also have Jim Harbaugh knowing Nico Collins which is the only weapon the Texans have. Yep. Recruited him, played for him. Here's another one I had. Houston versus top 10 DVOA defenses because the Chargers ranked ninth in DVOA. Minnesota the second DVOA defense they lost 34-7. Baltimore the sixth, they lost 31-2. Detroit the fifth, they lost 26-23.

And Green Bay the seventh, they lost 24-22. So they are 0-4 against those top 10 DVOA defenses. And like I said, the Chargers are a top 10 DVOA defense. Everything we just have said is just, like you should just take the under. I was just gonna say, did we become an analytics podcast? A little bit there.

We touched on it. All right, how about this? Let's let's just get anti analytics. I have a I have a dumb analytics staff for you Yeah, it's just looking at game logs JK Dobbins when he's hurt or he left the game against Baltimore The charges are two and three when he's healthy. They're nine and three. Okay, I like that. Yeah, it's just dumb I literally just looked at the game logs. I go you didn't play there. They lost. Okay, here's my dumb analytics. Jim Harbaugh hates losing. Hate I think he hates losing more than to Miko Ryan seats losing. Jim Harbaugh also claims that he remembers day he was born. Yeah, yeah, I remember. Wasn't this a thing a story that we heard like over the summertime, but then Justin

Herbert brought it up at a press conference. He's like when I knew that I liked Jim was when he told me that he remembers being born. He was putting his head down, hitting daylight. Maybe he hit the sea gap if it was sliced open. There's a fun thing in this game that we always do every year, it's the MVP game. This is the slime time game on Nickelodeon.

We gotta give the MVP the hardbaugh if they win, right? Is that a possibility? He would love it. He would, he would. Yeah, he would cherish it. He would earnestly accept that with just so much like love in his heart. Yeah, he'd be like, this is what happens

when you dedicate yourself, you put your mind to it, and you fight with a ferocity that no one's ever seen. Yeah. It would be good for kids. Yeah. It would be good for America and America's children if they could see Jim Harbaugh win the MVP Yeah, yeah, he'd probably have it presented to him by Spongebob. You know be a fucking dream come true I would be starstruck. No, he would be like, okay first

I'm gonna move my championship trophy from college football to the side and the MVP goes right there cuz Spongebob gave it to me So is everyone where's everyone thinking in this game? I do think the Chargers win. I'm a little nervous about three just because it does feel like it's going to be a low scoring knockdown, drag out fight. Yeah. There's a pattern for me this weekend. And that is there are a lot of teams that it, it seems like every single analyst out there is picking the Chargers.

Yeah. That makes me think what if the Texans just play like they played last year, right? That's stupid because we've been waiting for the Texans to do that that Browns game is kind of a similar spot I think the I think the chart I think the Texans might have been underdogs in that game I can't remember but that was yeah, they kicked the shit out of the Browns And I think we thought last year this might be the last time we see the Texans in this time slot. Right.

But the Texans also, you kind of are what you are. They have not been a good offense this year. So last year they were a lot better than offense. I also, we should say, I mean, the fires in LA are like horrific, really, really sad. Hope everyone who's an AWL is safe and okay. I wonder if there is, is there a human element, cause like, you're living in a city if you're a Charger, and it's burning down right now. Yeah, you're wondering if your house is okay

while you're gone. Yeah. I don't know, just something to throw in there. I just more hope that everyone's okay, and anyone who listens is doing okay. Yeah, agreed with that. I do like the Chargers though. I can't talk myself into the Texans. I will talk myself into one of these other teams, but I'm not doing it for the Texans Max

We got to win this game and then we can cash out our future If we want cash out it, I that's what I was just looking at. It's not great It's even right now or a little less, right it It's a little bit less. Okay now the Chargers are 30 to 1, but this was the plan Chargers win one playoff game I'm holding for the Chiefs. Okay. Yeah, I think the Chargers if the Chargers are 30 to one. But this was the plan. Chargers win one playoff game. I'm holding for the Chiefs. Okay. Yeah. I think the charge if the Chargers play the Chiefs divisional divisional opponent. I'm holding for the Chiefs. They got a chance. Okay next game. Saturday night Steelers at Ravens Ravens minus nine and a half over under forty three and a half. I'm very interested to see if Zay Flowers plays. That's a big one because I don't, there's nothing that tells me

the Steelers can win this game unless the Ravens have their number one receiver gone. So today Flowers has a 24% target rate. So a quarter of the targets. And he also has a quarter of the team's total receiving yards. If he doesn't play, maybe it's a Tomlin muck it up. If he plays, like where's the Steelers offense coming from? They've looked so bad. It's non-existent. What about this? Tomlin surprises the world starts Justin Fields. Probably not any better.

No, probably not. But I do think that if Zay Flowers doesn't play, then that plays obviously into the hands of the Steelers, who are very, very good against the run. But the Ravens are different against the run. Also, the Ravens defense is, since making the change and since moving Kyle Hamilton back to more of a free safety role or playing him deep, the Ravens defense

is like number one in every category. Yeah, so we're going to talk more about it with Dan Orlovsky because he breaks it down what they changed. But since week 11, when they made the change, they have the top pass defense in the NFL. So that's pretty crazy. They were 30th one weeks, one through 10. I think top pass defense, maybe a top scoring defense since making that change? There are just a all around sound team and I want like part of me. So so if I was going to make the case for the Steelers, it's a flowers being out. It's Justin Tucker being a little shaky. Like this is maybe the this has got to be the first

time in the Ravens Justin Tucker history that the other team has the edge and kick it. Chris Boswell has had a better year than Justin Tucker. And then the Ravens are a second in the league in penalties, 132 penalties this year. And you've, we've seen it. They've had games where they've been right there and that like little, you know, thing will happen. It's like not fully sound, not buttoned up. So that would be my case for the Steelers, but I feel like that's not a very strong case and the Ravens are gonna win. I think that there's a path for the Steelers though.

And this may be the path. Let's close our eyes and do a visualization. This is me talking myself into the Steelers. They play very, very hard against the Ravens. I'm closing my eyes. This is not a good first round matchup for the Ravens. How cold is it? Let's do, let's set it set it. Okay, here's this night

game. Night game. It is 27 degrees in Baltimore. Windy. The flags on top of the goal post swirling. Okay, like Acre cheer stadium. T T.J. Watt. What's his hair? T.J. Watt has a fresh bully cut. Okay. He looks healthy. Okay. Justin Justin Fields is coming in not just on third and short. Okay. He looks healthy. Okay. Uh, Justin, Justin Fields is coming in, not just on third and short. Okay. He's coming in on second down sometimes. I don't know why I saw my eyes closed. Okay. Uh, Lamar may be wearing a little too many, uh, undergarments. Yeah. Like a little too, Hey Lamar, you're like,

you didn't need all those layers. Yep. Mike Tomlin has, uh, two hats on putting a hat on a hat, two wool caps on and the opening kickoff returned by the Ravens. Mike Tomlin steps onto the field and lays that motherfucker out. Sets its own. It's Pittsburgh football. I had a cold game too quick for me, uh so I also rusty like George Pickens has to do something yep and 25 to 28 degrees I kind of nailed that that degree. Yeah, it doesn't look like today. Oh, that's today I give us Saturday 41 and sunny You dummy that's that's that's on that 30 31 degrees at 730. Okay, okay. It's pretty close. Yeah, that was probably in did not a lot of wind, but we can we can manufacture wind. Yeah, we've seeded clouds. Just have one side of the

stadium fart at the same time. Yeah. So there is there's some bulletin board material going around. Okay. Have you seen the we got to get Jerry on this case actually because it involves cologne. Oh, so Lamar Jackson has his own Willie. Yeah, he's got Lamar Jackson has his own cologne. Okay. It's for men and women. So whatever that is unisex cologne. How does that work? I don't know. They pass it around the locker room in Baltimore. And you can hear guys in the background talking about the cologne as being passed around. They're asking, how does it smell? How does it smell?

And one guy says, soft, smells soft, just like George Pickens. Oh! That's been going viral. And you know that George, he needs something like this to lock himself back in. Now it did come out later, I should say. They weren't talking about the cologne.

It was somebody in the background talking about another thing related to George Pickens. They were looking at a picture of a guy and they're like, yeah, the profile looks kind of, they were just saying this guy looks like George Pickens, but it doesn't matter because the clip already went out there. So don't pass, do not correct, nobody show George Pickens the community notes on this

if you're a Steelers fan. I also, George Pickens might be the one guy that you would wanna talk shit to, because he probably is now just like, all I have to do, all I wanna do is fight. Yeah. You know? You can get him out of his game very easily.

This could be Art of War shit from Harbaugh here. Yeah. I'm excited for this game though. I hope it's a close game. I don't want, this is the one game that I'm very nervous Could be a blowout Just just because this I mean the Steelers I think it's happened twice that a team has made the playoffs on a four game losing streak both teams lost and

So I don't their offense sucks. They're often sucks. They can't do anything The defense got a little bit better. Their defense is pretty good I mean they held it they held the Bengals out of the end zone for 57 minutes of that game It's got a little bit better. Their defense is pretty good. I mean they held the they held the Bengals out of the end zone for 57 minutes of that game. Yeah So there there is a path here if they can some if TJ can get a couple turnovers from Lamar bully cut bully cut Then it could happen potentially, but it's it's unlikely There was also a video of I think it was a hard knocks of cam Hayward and Russell Wilson after the last game Russell going up to him on the field after the game being like,

okay, we just got to win four in a row now. That's on us. Got to win four and Cam Hayward's just like, yeah. Yeah, just like completely. Oh, no. Can you pull up the video? I would like to listen to this video again. Hey, let's win the last four.

All right. Look at. We can do it. You know what I'm saying? Don't doubt now. You feel me? Let's go win the last four. All right, look at let's go we can do it. Yeah, you know I'm saying don't doubt now Yeah, you feel me? Let's go win the last four. Oh, no Yeah, cam's just like it's like a Ross's leadership is starting to maybe wear a little thin It's like a fly buzzing around a horse's eye. Yeah, just like get the fuck away from me, dude And they're in like cam really wants to just be like hey, dude. How about just throw over the middle of the field? Yeah

And they're in like Kim really wants to just be like, Hey dude, how about just throw over the middle of the field? Yeah. Yeah. We just shut down Joe burrow. Yeah. We held them. Yeah. We held them to 19 points.

Can you please just try to win this game? Please do something. I do think that Justin might get on the field a little bit more. It would be cool. Add an element. Yeah. Okay. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.

We have the Broncos at the Bills. Bills minus eight and a half, Over-Unders 46 and a half. Very funny when reporters asked Josh Allen what Joe Brady has brought to the offense this year, he said, because they were asking about him interviewing for head coaching jobs, he said nothing. Teams should stay away from him. I think, I love the Over in this game. I love it. Love. Love it. Love it. Love it. I think that the, I mean the weakness of the bills is their defense has not been great. Uh, they've had games where they've looked good, but they, they just have not like they, they were that Rams game, that lions game. Uh, I know they won the lions game, but if you ask any bills

fan that's, that's the concern is their defense has not, uh, been, you know, up to snuff for the back half of the year. And Josh Allen has been playing out of his mind. And I think that he will not be stopped either. So I like the over. I think the Bills are going to do everything they can to not let Bo Nicks hit any deep shots. Yeah. And make Bo Nicks, if you're going to score against us, you have to take, you have to take your offense down the field. Yeah.

I'm going to need, you know, seven completions out of you on this drive and bait him with stuff underneath. Yeah. That to me is, is the Bills game plan is cause Denver's going to try to run the ball. They're not that good at it, but they're going to try to do it. The Bills rush defense is pretty good. And then if you can make bone X play, if you can make one mistake, then I think the Bills are definitely going to win.

If bone X plays a mistake free game, they have a shot. We got a shot. So this is one of the, there's three of these Cubes making their first playoff start versus Cubes who have playoff experience. The Cubes making their first playoff start in that situation are 34% against the spread since 2002. So not great track record. You got to think. I think one of the three quarterbacks that are making their first playoff start this year, uh, Jayden Daniels, Bo Nicks, Sam Donald, one of those three is going to win the game. I think the

other two might be in trouble. I don't know how to pick those. It's kind of like a whack a mole, uh, which one's going to show up in the other two. But like statistically speaking, a guy making his first playoff start versus guys played In the playoffs before it's a disadvantage for the guy making his first place It's also just disadvantaged to be playing against Josh Allen correct Buffalo Bills correct Buffalo correct all True as good as they are right now all true so I sure yeah, I love I love Buffalo is von Miller Maybe revenge game here who he says a full circle moment. I don't know what that means full circle What is that was that button on PlayStation? He went full circle spin move spin move spin way

So look for Von Miller spin move. That's what he means. How's this a full circle moment? Von Miller. Yeah, he's just like they beat a little circle in the playoffs when they won He's just playing the Broncos playing against the Broncos Yeah, I know but full circle when full circle be If the Bills were playing against Texas A&M? Well if the Broncos beat the Bills in their original run. Yeah right then it would be full circle. Full circle moment is just playing against a team that you used to play on. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Full circle moment. I don't think it's full circle. I don't know. I don't know what shape it is. Yeah. I like the Bills. I like the Bills as well. I mean we know what they didn't. All right. Packers at Eagles. Eagles minus four and a half over under forty

four and a half. Max, do we have any reports? At the time of this taping, we're taping this at 10.45. By the time that you listen, Jalen Hurts will be out of Concussion Protocol. Let's go. But wait, Max, you told me several times this week that when he woke up on Thursday morning, he'd be out of Concussion Protocol. He is, they just haven't reported it yet.

He's awake right now. He doesn't have symptoms. How do you know? I know. You don't know. Me and my guy, we, I know. You don't know. He doesn't have symptoms. How do you know? I know. You don't know. Me and my guy, we, I know. You don't know. He doesn't have symptoms.

He's good to go. You said when he opens his eyes on Thursday, he's gonna be out. Correct, because all he needs to do is wake up without symptoms, and I know that he woke up without symptoms. They just haven't reported to the media that they woke up. Nick Sirianni's trying to keep everyone guessing.

All right, why would he give up information earlier than he has to give out information? I think he does have to give out information today though. Today, yeah. Yeah. So by the time that the listeners are listening to this, he will be out of protocol. I actually agree with you, I think he's gonna be fine. Yeah, I think he's gonna be fine too.

And I like the Eagles in this game. Here's the problem, here's the thing Max that we can't have happen. The Eagles cannot start slow. The Eagles are, they always start. I know they're 21st in, but especially in this game, they're 21st in first quarter scoring and the Packers are fourth in first quarter scoring. That's not good. You don't want to be down and have the Packers be able to lean on Josh Jacobs and, and have them be able to control this game.

And there is a little here's here's my biggest concern. Jordan Love is not I mean, I think last year he was ascending at the end this year. The Packers are probably a better team overall, but they didn't they weren't playing better towards the end of the season. Like last year they were playing well towards the end of the season. That game against the Cowboys was crazy. You played perfect football game. That was against the Cowboys was crazy. He played perfect football game. That was his first playoff start. I'm worried that like that guy's going to show up. They're the only seven seed to win a playoff game. Yeah. The

other seven seeds are one in seven all time. So that team is the only one that's done it before. So that's my, that's what I've been saying all week. What's your biggest worry? It's nothing really about what I'm about what I've seen on the field the past couple of weeks. It's really just the vibe of the Green Bay Packers as a seventh seed coming off of last year. The Eagles are better than the Packers in almost every category of the game, but it's still the Green Bay Packers. They still have a really good coach and they've done it before. They know it and they're not scared.? That's what I that's what I'm scared of Yeah, is that we're not playing we're not playing a 7c that is scared of of the big of the big guns

Yeah, so let's do a guy off real quick Is there anybody at the same position on the Packers who's better than on the Eagles? quarterback I Would take John hurts running back. I would take say corn Barkley who's better than on the Eagles? Quarterback. I would take Jalen Hurts. Running back. I would take Saquon Barkley. Left and right tackles. I would take our guy, like. Yeah, no, you guys have a better,

yeah, kicker. Kicker. But yeah, you guys have a better, a better wide receivers. Better cornerbacks. Yeah. What about coach? Great, best winning percentage in the NFL. I didn't answer the question. I didn't know. Not coach the I also think Vic Fangio is going to have a little

bit. I mean I think he already has an edge because Christian Watson being out is a big deal like that's I know that he's you know Packers like well he doesn't he has stones for hands and but he's a field stretcher. He is the guy who can get open deep and you have to worry about his speed at all times. That definitely changes the dynamic of what the Packers can do and what the Eagles can do in terms of defending the Packers. Even if you go back to that week one game, the Eagles still won that game. Jair Alexander was playing in that game. AJ Brown torched torched him

But then Jaden Jaden Reid Torched Avante Maddox, but Avante Maddox is no longer our nickel corner Cooper de Jean is now our nickel corner who's been one of the best in the league since he's come in So the Eagles won that game and they're in a better spot now than they were week one Yeah, so like everything points that the Eagles should take care of business, but it's a Green Bay Packers Yeah, and they beat the shit out of the Cowboys. Yeah week one. Yeah. So like everything points that the Eagles should take care of business, but it's a Green Bay Packers. Yeah. And they beat the shit out of the Cowboys. Yeah. Week one last year. It's the only thing I'm scared of. Okay. Yeah. It makes sense. So not afraid. No, I'm not. What? You're not afraid. I just. At all. I just explained to you why I'm afraid. But you're not afraid. I mean, I'm, I'm confident, but they're if they're still worry Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna go in here and saying we're on the week too or we're on the divisional around super divisional around Yeah, we're on to the super divisional around I'm gonna give Siri on a compliment

That was a good decision that he made last week. Yeah, got your guys a little mini buy. Yeah, he had his own buy Yeah had to because if you're not gonna get the one seed you need you need that little He created his own buy. Yeah. Had to. Cause if you're not going to get the one seed, you need, you need that little small little break for yourselves to get, get a little bit more fresh for super wild cards. Assuming Jalen hurts is healthy. We, week one all 11 starters on offense and defense will be playing in this game for the evening. Okay. And I, I just hope he's, cause that's the,

the slow start and the fact that he's missed what two weeks now three weeks two weeks Two and a half just got to find a way to start start fast I'm worried about this start have to find a way to scheme something up and and get into rhythm early Because that's where I'm gonna start getting nervous if the Eagles come out and they're like three and out and the Packers go down the field and now you're playing a different game because the Eagles are an incredible team to play from ahead. We saw it in that Steelers game when they had the fucking whatever it was 13 minute drive down the field to end the game. Counterpoint though they've been playing from behind all year.

True. Even if they do start off playing from behind. Yeah. They can. It's just playing from behind in the playoffs is definitely a different feeling. It's different in the playoffs. It's different in the playoffs. But if like this, like the Eagles have found, found a way this year to start to play from behind in every game and still win by two scores in almost every game. Right. I think

with the Packers that that would be the one way that you could go about it though. If you could just start handing the ball to Josh Jacobs. Yeah, we started behind in that game. Yeah. I'm pretty in that game. Yeah. I'm pretty sure. Did you guys see that you added another Georgia Bulldog? I think there's 11 total playing in this game. Who is it? From the North.

Lewis Seen, the former first round pick who was cut by the Vikings. I think he was on the Bills practice squad and he got added to the Eagles, uh, active roster. So it's, it's a significant amount of Georgia Bulldogs. I love that. Uh, I'm, let's go win a football game, Max. Let's go win a football game. Max can you give me a quick breakdown of the Howard Eskin stuff? Oh shit. That was my fuck. Whoa. so I gave me a he gave me a homework. I gave him a homework that I Saw a headline and it said Howard asking like the reporter in Philly Got banned from the facility and then gave himself his own press credential

Oh and tried to sneak in like he was still on the job. That's a horny guy who posted the The picture of his daughter. I think but there's some other horny stuff in here too. Yeah, I think horniness is... I have not done my homework. I hand up, professor, I did not do my homework. All right, so we need it for Sunday night show. Yeah. Okay.

That sounds like you're not gonna do it then either. Yeah, it sounds like I have to put it up. How about this, how about by the end of class? I can get it by the end of class okay by the end of class mm-hmm Okay, have it on my desk. Okay? Yeah, I like the Packers. I Mean sorry I like the Eagles I I think the pattern yeah when there might be something to that eagle I already bet the eagle that was a Freudian slip it was Max. I like the Eagles. They're gonna win this game Just don't start slow I'm not

promising they're not gonna start slow but you're more worried about starting so than I am okay I would like very much for the Packers to win this game very much I would like very much for the commanders to lose their game as well I'm aware oh I'm aware nice all right let's talk about that game commanders at box bucks minus three over under 50 and a half. What are we thinking PFT? How we feel? I told you I had a path, right? Yeah. I told you I had this whole thing figured out from doing a deep dive into the old 22. Um, I think Jayden is going to run the fuck out of the football. And I think Austin Echler is going to run the fuck out of the football. I think that Todd Bowles is going to if he tries to blitz Jaden the way that he

Did in week one it's not going to end up well for him because Jaden will take off on him He's a different quarterback fun fact. No team has ever beaten Jaden Daniels twice in the same year Whoever that is a fun fact, right? I think it's just three teams this year Wait, they had the opportunity to do it. He didn't play in an SEC championship. He did not play. No, when they lost. It was Alabama and Georgia. Okay. And yeah, so no teams ever beat him twice in the same year. That's awesome, which is pretty good. Dan Quinn has never gone one and done in the playoffs. Okay, he's I think he's two and oh, and that the Bucks were own foreign primetime this year as well

This is Sunday night game. Okay, so they haven't won a primetime that Cowboys game was bad. It was very bad Now counterpoint if you're a Bucks fan listen this you can say hey We beat you when you were the Redskins in the playoffs We beat you when you were the football team in the playoffs and now we're gonna be the only team to have beaten you When you're all three of those, okay, We haven't won a playoff game since 2006, which was against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay. And Chris Sims. Okay. But I think the way that Todd Bowles is going to attack this is going to be start off blitzing,

get damaged a little bit by Jaden's legs. And then he's going to drop back more into more of like a rush for take his foot off the gas a little bit blitzing and then expect Jayden to be looking like he wasn't week one passing the ball. But Jayden is a lot better now. This is a different Jayden Daniels on week one. So I think, I think there's a path to it. Now the, the downside to the all this is that our defense is still not very good. Our defense is, I would say a medium, medium bad, which is medium bad, which is also, it's not good, but it's also a significant upgrade on what the bucks on week one, when we were bad, bad, true, maybe worse than the league bad. True.

I think I said after that, if our defense can just get medium, then we'll be a decent team or defenses like medium bad. They have an opportunity to escalate to medium. Yep. I think there's going to be a lot of points either way. I do too. I think that it's going to be a shootout, but which would be awesome. Weird stuff happens with the commanders at the end of games. We've won a lot of games, some against bad teams that we shouldn't have won, but for some reason, Jayden at the end just figures out. Yes. He's a big figure shit out guy and he doesn't get too excited. He doesn't get too emotional besides happy. Yeah. Uh,

so I like our chances. I think that we have a very good chance of beating the bucks. Yeah. I do too. I think this would be a great game. I think the bucks are not like the bucks. Defense has not looked great. They also have a lot of injuries. Uh, and I don't know. I think it actually helps that Jayden Daniels has played them before. Like you said, like it's like, you know, the unfamiliarity of playoffs, a lot of pressure. It's like, but we've been to Tampa, we've played them. That was the first game of the season. I would be a little worried about the run game for the bucks. I feel like he's going to have a huge day. Probably going to ladder his overs. I would agree with that.

We're going to have a very hard time stopping Bucky Irving and Rashad white. Uh, Mike Evans, I don't know what to expect. I like, I like Latimore's chances more than I would like Benjamin St. Ju's chances. Yes. Latimore or against Mike Evans. So, uh, yeah, if you look at Todd Bowles, he's got like two ways of playing defense, he will blitz quarterbacks that he does not respect. And then he will take away the deep ball against quarterbacks

that he does. That's what he did to talk to Patrick Holmes, the Superbowl. Yep. Where he just did. He just stopped blitzing entirely. Right. So I think he's going to try to blitz and then realize this isn't working. And then Jayden is's gonna have his way. Okay. I think you guys are gonna be in this game. I'm rooting for you to get a playoff win. I've told you I've been honest. If you won a Super Bowl this year I'd be like that's fucking bullshit. I would like you to win this game especially because it's against Stephen Che. Yeah. And that would be very nice for you to win against Stephen Che. I will probably do a friendship bet on the commanders and

ride with you because I want you to just rub it in his face. I appreciate that. Yeah. And so the path becomes, here's what I'm also worried about. If we do somehow happen to win this game, I'm gonna, the next week, I'm gonna treat like we just won the Super Bowl.

Oh, you have to. Because in all likelihood, we're then going to have to play against the Lions. Right. In which case, I think the Lions are gonna score 70 points if they play the commands. That would not be a great matchup for you it would be a terrible matchup for us which is why I'm rooting so hard for the

Packers yes but uh yeah this is gonna be fun we're in the playoffs let's go fucking let's go I'm above the moon the fact that I get above the moon above the moon that I get a playoff above the moon yeah damn uh okay uh that's it well we'll do the Monday night game on Sunday yeah Hank we by the way we had 12 wins this season you bet us to not make the playoffs 12 wins 12 wins a lot of wins hey yeah it's a bad bet you guys good team I have the Super Bowl future I'm hoping for this path that come through wait you said on Monday that we were not a good team. No, it's actually Sunday. Yeah, Sunday. He turned to me during the game. He said the

commanders are not a good team. Yeah. You just said you're a good team. Well, you made the playoffs. You got 12 wins. There's I'm not gonna I'm not like you're not. I don't know. Well, we made the playoffs a week before that. We beat the Falcons. Listen listen I'm rooting for the commanders I don't think they're like that good of a team but the the numbers stayed otherwise the wind stayed otherwise you guys made the playoffs like I'm just a hater I don't I don't I'm definitely hating yeah and you guys basically lost to the Bears you basically lost to the Saints like you barely be sound like it sounds like a little those are bad teams you have to fight a lose bad teams basically lose I don't care like you barely beat the Cowboys. This sounds like a loser. Those are bad teams.

You have to fight to be bad teams. Basically losers. I don't care about basically losers. In theory, you guys are going to get smoked in the playoffs. Almost lost to Kenny Pickett. Hank, Hank, you basically dunked. Yeah, exactly. I actually did basically dunk.

That was pretty close. No. I mean, it was pretty close. At no point. I have no problem admitting that I was wrong and for the sake of this podcast I want commanders Eagles and I the best case scenario out of that I guess I have the Eagles future, but I want the Eagles to make a run for the sake of the show I don't care if that makes me look wrong

Do I think it's gonna happen if you gave me, you know true serum? No But at this point I I'll I'll take my licks and say I was wrong and somehow hope the commanders, you know, make a run. That's fine. Well, the reality is the NFL was very bad this year. There were a lot of bad teams and we beat a lot of bad teams and we beat a lot of bad teams. You barely beat a lot of bad teams. A narrow margin, but we also narrowly lost to several good teams. You are what your record says you are. Exactly.

12-win team. 12-5. I'll take the number 12 next to the win column looks pretty good. I did put in a future on Girafficking Sportsbook. Ohio State parlayed with, Ohio State to win the national championship parlayed with the Eagles. I think it's 13 to one. Eagles Super Bowl.

All right. So I'm with Maxey. Me too, and I'm just, I'm waiting for cash out there. I think the Eagles are the best team in the nfc i've said it for months now that's a fact i think the eagles are walking on a minefield to get to the super bowl why there's a lot of good teams in the nfc i think there's i think the afcs well the hackers is tough the the lions are tough the vikings are, the Rams like. He's not gonna say commanders. No.

That's fine. You said the Packers too. He just named. Every team. He just named. Every commander in the box, not tough. Yeah, he named four, five, six. That's, am I wrong?

Four, five, seven. Am I wrong? No, listen. Skip six. Hank's not wrong. I think that. All those teams have a better chance against. I think, all right, so.

In my dream matchup, I had the Buccaneers in the Buccaneers dream matchup. They had the commanders here. Here's, here's what I was saying in PFT defense. And I, I, cause like, you know, he's not, he's not trying to be cocky about it, but I think that what the commanders are is they're not a finished product. They're not a great team, but the way Jayden Daniels has played this year gives you a chance in any game. Any game. That's, that's really what it comes down to is you got a guy that is so dynamic that if he is, if he is hitting his long balls, if he's running, you know, when he needs to run, he's a matchup matchup problem. I would say even if he doesn't hit the long balls

and he's running well and hitting, you know, Zach Ertz and Zacchaeus and some of the other receivers on like intermediate stuff, he's still going to keep you right. Right. Right. And if he hits the long balls, that's when we win. That's that's if he's connecting on long balls and running well at the same time, I think we win the game, no doubt about it. But, you know, anything can happen. Anything can happen. Anything can happen. Be his own foreign prime time. Memes, you got anything on the playoffs? I'm all in on Steve Spagnola right now.

Oh, okay. I thought second chance. You guys are interviewing a ton of Italians so many Italian. Yeah, I like league in Italian Do you think the Rizler is in on any of these interviews? I? Saw somebody say we interviewed Mike Francesca for the GM job. Oh Eagles definitely lead the league in Italians by the way Yeah, but the Jets are trying to get they are they have been trying to copycat league the Eagles for a while Mm-hmm. Yeah, just because I got Joe Douglas. We have an Italian off We might have to might have to an Italian off. I've been big Dom is accounts is like 10. It's true He's the Don he's starting five for Italian We have Eagles there's just Eagles hats that have the Italian flag on the side of it for the whole coaching staff

There's just Eagles hats that have the Italian flag on the side of it for the whole coaching staff That is true must be Italian to coach my brother like that is your terrible tell My brother has asked me so many times He's like can you get me that Eagles Italian hag flag because you can't buy it only the coaches get it You gotta get it for yeah, you gotta get it for memes. Are you rooting for max? Uh, you're rooting for pain. Yeah. Be honest. What are you really don't want anybody to win. I want to write to lose. But if you're rooting for maximum

for the podcast listeners, we need to spread out the losses like if you guys both lost this weekend, it would kind of suck. Yeah. You know, he goes and loses the Super Bowl and horrific error. No, they're probably losing the NFC championship in horrific fashion

Okay, no confidence You say that and then you just don't look at me loser Speak like a win. I'm the captain now. I am a loser. Oh What in what way you're like, Oh, this is shocking. Max is acting like a loser. Max, you're acting like a loser right now. Yeah, I am. Do you want to win?

Did you beat Hank? And then act like a winner? Not on this show. Yeah, this is bad. You're sitting a bad tone. All right, let's we have, we have a same game parlay for the people. We actually have two of them. So DraftKings this weekend with NFL teams playing to see who's the king of the gridiron get in on the playoff action

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Daniels 40 plus rushing yards and Baker Mayfield over 18 and a half rushing yards double dead with Harry double dipping with Terry and quarterbacks. I might just bet on every quarterbacks over for rushing yards in the playoffs because they start to run more. Yes. So all that parlayed together is plus 750 seems like a winner. I like that parlayed together is plus 750. Seems like a winner. I like that. All Terry does is catch touchdowns. Bet for bet. I'm bet your parlay. You bet mine. So go Drafking Sports with the God. Everything this weekend's great weekend of football. Okay. Let's talk some more football. We got our good friend, Dan Orlovsky on the show,

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grab a cam of Campbell's chunky today. And now here is Dan Orlovsky. Okay we now welcome on our good friend Dan Orlovsky. You can see him on ESPN. He's calling games now. Doing a great job calling games. He was calling that Ravens Browns game the other night. It is playoff time though. We want to talk to Dan about some playoffs we want to break down these games. Dan I'm excited which which matchup has you the most excited out of the six this weekend because I figured I'll follow your lead and we'll start there. Yeah I really do think it's Buffalo Denver because one I think it's the game that most makes me feel like a real upset could actually happen. You know, I don't think that the Vikings beating the Rams would be like a quote unquote upset. And I think that, you know, for Buffalo and Denver, obviously,

Josh has had an outstanding season. And so it's elevated the expectations and he falls into that category like, hey, you got to win a Super Bowl, man. You can only get so many opportunities this quickly in your career till we start to have the worry of like, are you ever going to get there and or win one? I also think that it's a really favorable matchup or interesting matchup for the the underdog for denver um, I think denver's got a guy that could be the defensive player there in sir tan and He's as close to a thing to derello Rivas that I've seen when it comes to,

hey, you go by yourself and shut down the field. And, you know, without getting too deep into the weeds of like the X's and O's, like schematically, that's a huge part of this game because Buffalo gets into some unique formations where they try to kind of overload one side of the field. And Sir Tan takes that away. And so, and then Sean Payton, I remember Sean Payton went up there last year with Russell Wilson and beat him and he's so well coached, such a good coach and he understands how to attack these defenses and get them into certain situations that are favorable to them.

And so it would be a massive upset, but I honestly don't think I would be surprised yes, but I wouldn't walk away going, Oh my gosh, I did not accept it. Forsee this at all. So if that does happen, we're big roadmap guys. Give us the roadmap of how it happens. How can the Broncos outscore the bills? Yeah. I think one number one, it starts defensively for Denver.

I just talked about certain. So like what Buffalo does and every team in the playoffs does is they get into these four by one formation. So they take one person and put them on one side of the formation and take four guys and put them on the other side. And it's very simple. Like the quarterback, he says, if I like the one on one matchup, great, I'm going to throw that.

If not, I'm going to throw something to the field. That's easy. It's like a little flat router and RPO. And we have numbers advantages because defenses are usually trying to be like symmetrical. You don't want to vacate one side of the field. Well, Sir Tan can go there by himself. So you Buffalo don't have the numbers advantage to that four person side. And so that might stunt their offense a little bit. And then I think the second thing is Denver led the NFL in sacks and they got dudes who are unbelievably big and talented. Jonathan know, Jonathan Cooper is fantastic.

Zach Allen on the inside and Benito is the one for me because when you're playing against Buffalo and you're playing man coverage, which Denver loves to do, Josh is going to be a runner. Benito is big enough. He's fast enough. He's athletic enough. He's physical enough to kind of that's what he's done with Patrick. He's a little bit of a spy. So I think defensively, they match up well against Buffalo. And then, you know, if you were going to ask me how

to attack Buffalo, you're trying to get Buffalo into, um, where Taron Johnson, who's an unbelievable nickel has to defend the run. They play, he plays every play. So like you can get 320 pound offensive lineman blocking him if you formation the right way and Sean Payton Absolutely will and I just think that's beneficial for Denver to kind of control the game run the ball They are heavy RPOs And they've been hurt a little bit by quarterback run Bo Nicks really athletic So, you know, I that's the way I see that they'll get get into beefy, beefy dudes on the field to run the football.

So the only question I have in this, we could maybe use this to jump to the Jaden Daniels Commander's Bucks game is, obviously rookie quarterback, first playoff start, especially on the road, not the best record overall. What is that? Is that just simply like, this is just a different, this is just a different level of football

that they are not, you can't prepare yourself, there's just no different this is just a different level of football that they are not you can't prepare yourself there's just no way you could have a great fantastic rookie year like bonix and jaden daniels did and then you get into that playoff environment and it's just a totally different ball game that yes and also the playoffs become so game plan specific you know the the regular season is so week to week to week to week and you only get you know you have all this evidence now and it you become so game plan specific because you know it's it's win or go home and so you're a little bit less kind of like this is what we do and you're a little bit more of we're gonna take away what you want to do and that's the focus point and it has all your attention and

you know guys are just more hyper focused in the playoffs because You know that it's again, it's a winner go home And so I think that's a big part of it as well is a lot of teams that go in with rookie quarterbacks It's not you know, they don't have the plethora of a wide open playbook more often than not There's things that they do well and they live in them because that allows the quarterbacks to not play poorly and kind of to play to a quote unquote strength and defense has just become so much more focused on all right, they really love to do these three things in this formation or these two things in this

formation. So we're going to take that away and then force them to kind of play to that C game or D game. That's a huge part of it. Yeah, so one dude that I feel like America should know more, or at least discuss more on the Broncos is Quinn Miners because that, that guy is a beast and he is, he just looks like a dude. You talk about like getting your beefy boys going. Yup.

I feel like, I feel like that is he the leader of that offense? I mean, obviously Bo Nicks a lot's been put on his shoulders as a rookie, but I feel like they get some of their attitude from that, from that strength on the inside. There's no question him and bowls, you know, Garrett bowls has become a, again, a high end left tackle. The Quinn miners versus ed Oliver matchup is going to be awesome to watch, you know, because those two dudes are outstanding when they play their best, their units usually play their best. That's the thing. You know, we fall in love with the past game and Bo Nicks and Sutton have been really good.

Um, they, you know, I don't want to sit here and pretend that Denver's Philadelphia running the football, but Sean Payton wants to run the football. And then what happens is like, you just become obsessed and stop at the run and they'll get a perimeter screen to go 50 for a touchdown. But miners, he's a stud. He's a monster at guard. Yeah. Miners versus Oliver. That's like the most country matchup that you could possibly get. Like one is the country of Canada basically. Um, Dan, you called that Ravens game, uh, last week and you mentioned something on the

broadcast and I think that people have been watching the Ravens all year have seen it as well, but they have adjusted their defense or secondary specifically and been playing really good ball down the stretch. What has happened and do you think that that is what was needed to like they're now a very bonafide like they're going to win the Superbowl. They're one of the best top two top three teams in the playoffs. Yeah. Kyle Hamilton saved their season.

So there's the butterfly effect to it. So they were really bad on defense, because the secondary was just blown coverages, missed assignments, poor communication ball going over their head. And so their best player on defense was closer to line of scrimmage had Kyle down there the line of scrimmage a little bit like what the Rams have done in the past with like a Jalen Ramsey and whatnot, which makes sense to charges do it with Darwin. But what they did was they say, okay, the worst part of our defense is the secondary. Let's take our best player and move them back there. So once they move Kyle back to the secondary, two things happen. One, he communicates at such a high level, he gets everybody in the right

positions. And we often say that and don't think it's meaningful. It's enormous because in an era in football offensively, where teams are constantly changing with shifts and motions, you know, those guys rules change. It's not like the defense calls, Hey, cover to ready break. And it just stays that way no matter what. And so everybody's kind of rules change once offensive shifts. And so Kyle goes back there and he, he is the quarterback of the defense. He gets everybody in the right places and everybody on the same page. And then what happens is Roe, Kwon, Smith, their linebacker no longer has to bear that responsibility.

So then his focus is solely on the front seven and the backers in the rush and getting those guys because their rules change as well. So like getting those guys into the right alignment and right set. So that's the trickle down effect of Kyle going back there. I think the second part of that is twofold. It allows Marlon Humphrey to go inside because Marlon is an all pro nickel. He struggled on the outside as a nickel on the inside. He's as good as anybody in the league. And it really Nate Wiggins, their first round pick from Clemson is really played good football. And they went down there,

when you talk to Roquan and ask him about Nate Wiggins, the first thing out of his mouth is Nate thinks he's the best corner in football. You know, and you just imagine down there in Baltimore with that kind of off defensive, like swag and moxie and mindset. So Kyle going back there has been huge. Van Noy's been phenomenal for them I, I agree that that defense is plenty capable of going to Superbowl. Yeah. When you get Marlon Humphrey on the inside, you also let him play more run support a hundred percent. He's there to impact the run game a little bit. And I feel like that's a big difference too, for that team. Because if you look at what happened, was it after the Bengals game when the way, how many, how many points? Yeah.

So after chase had like 200 plus after that game They've been one of the best defenses in football across the board Yeah and it's a it's as simple as just moving Kyle back and then the Following adjustments that happened because that wave so on the offensive side of the ball Trey flowers or say Zay flowers Excuse me I feel like Zay's injury that that adds the one Little like ding into the Ravens offense

That could make me believe that Pittsburgh might be able to beat him like in a weird world Just because he's that much of an impact on offense. Do you think that he's gonna play this weekend? I hope he does because I agree. It's a huge. It's a huge injury, you know calling that game once they went down and Cleveland's good Defensively once they went down the pass game wasn't nearly what it was with Zay on the field naturally right and so I have no idea if he's gonna play because You know we haven't gotten a ton of information at least to my knowledge of kind of what the injury is I know he's day to day and so If he doesn't play that really hampers their past game just because he does so much for

their past game, both down the field and the intermediate routes and kind of winning one on one. I do think Bateman's good enough to kind of fill that void a little bit. I do believe that Tylin Wallace can step in and handle some of the role. Their tight ends are really good. I, it's interesting because like the way to attack Pittsburgh defensively Cleveland actually exposed this like six or seven weeks ago is like you spread them out side line to sideline and you try to minimize Queen and Kim Hayward and TJ a little bit because you don't want to play those guys in a small space. You want to play them side line to sideline. So we'll see if he plays. If he doesn't, I do think the game's closer than I would have if he if he plays. If he doesn't, I do think the game's closer than I would have if he, if he plays. Yeah. Uh, what about the Texans and the chargers? Uh, that game, I

just can't, I can't get to it with the Texans in the way they've looked offensively this year. Even when they had all their guys, it was never like clean and I can't think of one game where I was like, man, the Texans looked awesome. Their defense is great, but are they going to get enough offense against a good Chargers defense? And like, what is the fix when you're watching the tape? You're like there, if they could do this or this, they might have a little more success. Yeah. One, the fix is it going to be in 2025. There is no fix right now. And then two, I honestly believe the Chargers would be a team that I would sit here and go like that's a dangerous team in the long run out of the AFC. I do think the AFC is that three team race in my gut. But I think, so

here's the thing for the Chargers before I touch on Houston, like they just, there's no, they don't have negative plays on offense. They're always like moving the ball forward. They're so efficient and like there's never, oh, second and 12 or third and eight. And so like they control the game in that regard. Obviously the defense is phenomenal and their disguise is crazy. I'll go back to Houston and I remember the first game of the year against Indy and watching it and going on TV the next day and being like Houston better figure out their pass protection because CJ was running for his life and it never got fixed this year. Their interior of their offensive line has been the weakest, weakest part of their football team all season long. Obviously, Nico missing time, but then,

you know, Steph and Tank Dell not being there. I just don't see how this offensive line can hold up against the Chargers defensive line. That's going crazy type of stunts and and pick games and pressures against them so I fully expect the Chargers to win that game. Yeah. Yeah, I mean they send impact free agent Ezekiel Elliott Who knows what that guy's gonna be? Accomplished Jerry. Yeah Yeah, all right. So yeah that makes sense if you go to if you go to Sunday now Obviously Jalen hurts whether or not he plays. He looks like he's probably going to play.

I think Max reported he was going to play and everything would be fine. The Eagles look right now like they are one of the most I'd say maybe second best roster in the NFL, depending on how you look at the chiefs. But they have a shitload of talent. Yeah. And going to this game, it feels like things have been clicking very well for the Eagles this season the Packers on the other hand The injury concerns like Christian Watson obviously and then we don't know how healthy love is Should should the Eagles be worried? Um, I don't think Philadelphia has to get worried if Jalen hurts prep practices today

If Jalen hurts practices today, I do think that Philly is, I agree, I think Philly is the most talented roster top to bottom in the NFL, I would say along with Baltimore. As long as he's there today and he's able to kind of sharpen over the next three days, I think Jaylen's proven enough that he's one of those guys that can figure out a way to get plenty capable to go play good enough football. I do think the interesting, no Jair Alexander is a big deal. I thought Jair was one of those corners that could try to play AJ one on one.

They don't have that guy anymore, so they're going to have to play a little bit more zone defense. Playing zone defense against Philly's offense is a problem just because obviously the run game. I think a huge key in the game is Edren Cooper. He's a freaking problem at linebacker. He's athletic and slippery enough. So the best way to kind of hope if you're Green Bay defensively is that he has an all world game, has a bunch of tackles for loss, but I think Philly is just so good. And without Watson trying to stretch them vertically,

I don't think there's a ton of fear in Philadelphia's defense going against Green Bay's offense. That feels a little bit sideline to sideline now without Watson. Doos. So speaking at quarterbacks, Jordan love, uh, I think he's good. I obviously hate the Packers. Uh, he does throw off his back foot a lot. What, what, what is, so what's said in practice, is that something you're trying to coach out of him? Is that something you're saying like, God, dude, you gotta stop doing this because there's sometimes they're incredible plays, but sometimes it looks like he's just doing it when he could easily plant and go forward.

Yeah. I mean, I won. That's way more of an off season thing than it is in season. You very rarely can you fix that. I think you can get it a little bit better. Um, I'll never forget being around a coach that one time, you know, kind of made the comment of, you never want to take a guy's stinger away. And I thought that was like an all-encompassing thing of like, you never want to take a quarterback like a quarterback that's really aggressive or

he wants to push the ball or he thinks he can make all these throws. You know, Stafford was the guy that they were referencing. You know, we had coaches that were constantly trying, because Matthew used to do it too, and they were constantly trying to get Matthew to be this mechanically like flawless guy, Drew Brees type of player. And you know, it would frustrate Matthew to a point where Matthew would almost like, I don't want to say shell up, but it would make him be a lesser player in my opinion. And I think you got to walk that fine line with Jordan.

Like, yes, you want him to become mechanically as sound as possible. But I think that's a little bit more of one off season and two as he gets older in his career. Um, I, I, right now I still believe that he's such a physically talented guy that you really want him to, I'm not saying be sloppy, but you really want his kind of natural athletic instincts to be the focal point of his past game. Yeah. Yeah. That does make sense. And I, when you're talking about Matthew Stafford, I

thinking about Jared Goff and what he's done in Detroit after Stafford went to LA. That is the best example of a win win trade of all time. Yeah. I don't think it could have worked out any better for either franchise franchise I still think that the Lions are probably the team to beat in the NFC What do you say do would you put it like if you were to pick your winner out of the NFC right now? Are you going with the Eagles or the Lions? I think I'm going with Detroit You know, my wife is gonna be pissed off about that. I think them getting homes home field matters a ton Angela I'm gonna text her right now Dan. Yeah. Well hopefully you don't. She tells her story real quick. We are so sad Dan on yesterday and I wake up at like seven in the morning and

I have a text from a number I don't see it. It says hey it's it's Orlovsky. My phone broke I'm texting you for my wife's number and I was like oh OK. And then we just texted on like I texted your wife's number for like two times back and forth communicating. So I'll delete the number. Don't worry. She's an Eagles fan. Isn't she? Yeah. I'm going to tell her, I'm going to tell her she's an Eagles fan, right? She is a maniac, dude. Man. Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm going to have to text her. Yeah. I asked her, I asked her the other day. I'm like, hey Sunday Eagles play 430 in Philly You want to go and she was like I'd rather wait and just go to Detroit when they go there. I'm like, okay Yeah, okay. You're already booking it. So, um, okay. So why Detroit? I think that she thinks oh, why do I like Detroit?

I getting healthy, you know, and Zaloni getting healthy Matters a ton. I was so impressed with the way that they played on the defense side of the football. I think Detroit all comes down to can they get like two takeaways a game if they get two takeaways a game and you can say that about everybody. But that's not really reality because I think they're going to have to score 30 plus to beat anybody and because the defense is still beat up. And so I'm banking on Detroit. I think it's there as well coached as anybody.

I think they understand like, Hey, we got to win two games. And, um, you know, I do believe that they match up well versus Philadelphia. As long as one of those corners is going to have to play out of his head. Kind of like he did the other night against Minnesota, like Robertson or if Carlton Davis comes back or Terry and Arnold, like one of those cats versus AJ is going to have to play out of his head. Yeah. Yeah.

So with Tampa Bay, Washington, I'm obviously commander's fan. So I'm going to be biased in how I perceive your answer and I will put you on the enemies list if you, I don't think that you answered fairly. In week one, we saw the commanders and the box and that was a very different team. I think probably for both teams, especially for the commanders. And Todd Bowles did his thing where he just blitzes the hell out of you. He put Jayden under a lot of pressure. Jayden's grown a lot as a quarterback since then.

Are we going to see more of that Todd Bulls signature? Sin pressure, pressure, pressure, pressure, force them to make quick decisions and, you know, and see what happens there. Are we going to see the Todd Bulls where he takes his foot off that gas and ends up playing deep coverage to take away the deep ball from Jayden? I think that you'll get a little bit more of that softer deep coverage protection. Well, one in that first game, you know, Washington did not run as much, no huddle as they have throughout this season.

And that kind of mitigates trying to get to all those pressures. I think too, you gotta be worried about Blitz and Daniels right now, because if you leave McClellan one-on-one versus the corners. In my opinion, advantage Washington. I don't think Tampa Bay can run with McClure on the outside. And two, you know, kind of what happened in week one, if you don't get home, he's gone. You know, he's going to get 80 to 100 on you. And so I don't love the matchup for Tampa Bay. Honestly, I think they play way too soft on the outside.

I think Jayden's going to have opportunity to create a ton of easy completions. I would be very aggressive down the field with McClure. And if I were them, I don't think either of these corners can cover them on a consistent basis. So I don't think that Todd comes after him that much early on and they try to just see if they could play really, really good red zone defense. Okay. I like that. And I agree with you because I've been watching the tape Dan So I'm thinking and when what you saw in week one was jaden when he did get pressured since it was all you know The game speed was new to him. Yeah his first NFL game He would he would either try to take off or there were times when he would try to just like drop back in the pocket

Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, because you have that cut He didn't have the confidence necessarily to just go forward step up in the pocket and take off So we try to escape the pressure by like backpedaling boom he gets hit they got a couple sacks that way Yeah, I feel like this is a very different team and then on on the defensive side of the ball for the commanders I love if he plays I love the Marshawn Latimore matchup against Mike Evans Historically, that's been a very good matchup for Latimore. Yeah. Yeah. Latimore has had the opportunity to have some success against it. I don't I know people keep saying that, but I don't know.

The one time we saw Latimore was versus AJ and AJ had his way versus both in success and penalties. So I know he's fresh off the injury. We'll see how healthy he is for like I don't feel the same way about that. Marshawn Latimore kind of performance that as it did three or four or five years ago in New Orleans, so I Think this game is high-scoring. I really do. I think this game could sniff both teams getting close to 30 I think Washington's gonna struggle to stop Bucky Irving and Rashad white, you know, and yeah You know, I think that this is the team This is the game where both defenses are reeling a little bit versus offenses that are hot, man.

Yeah, I actually think in a weird way that this matchup, it's a good matchup for both teams. It's going to be a fun game. Yeah. How do you I do I think the Bucks are going to be able to run the ball. I agree. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And that's going to open up a lot. Like, I think Bucky Irving is going to have a big day. He's so good. He's so good. He's so good. And that's I mean, that's gonna open up a lot like I think Bucky Irving's gonna have a big day. He's so good He's so good. He's so good. And that's I mean that's been the difference, you know coming down the stretch He became just a real dude. Yeah reminds me like Brian Westbrook years ago for the Eagles

You know, it's like he's big enough where he can make any kind of run But then when he gets the ball in space, it's like he's shifty but low to the ground and strong and tough He's a really big time player. We'll get back to Dan Urlovski in a second. The playoffs are here and every game counts. AWLs know that when it counts you can count on Chevy Silverado. It's a dependable partner with strength, capability and true grit. Whether you're looking for a spacious interior to comfortably get in the game, the functionality

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so we'll see our friends Joe and Troy. Sam Darnold, I saw the clip, you said you thought he missed five touchdown passes on Sunday night. Yeah. Is this a, Hey, the lions had an incredible game plan. They, they did something that they, the Vikings weren't expecting. That's an anomaly. That's one game. Or is this, Hey, this is a big problem. And Sam Darnold, as great as he's been this year, like you have a little bit of doubt going into the playoffs. Yeah. I think it's a little bit more of a tip of the hat to Detroit. I really thought Detroit's game plan was awesome.

That doesn't mean that Sam didn't miss those throws, but I do think, you know, just from a quarterback's perspective, when you get some of those defenses that you don't want, expect or to necessarily have clarity of what you're looking at. have clarity of what you're looking at, you can start to kind of chase stuff and whether it's getting your eyes off the, you know, the guy too soon or, you know, you're anticipating one thing and then it's another thing. So what you might be anticipating and doing something with your eyes to try to move a guy isn't exactly that. And so you're quote unquote doing the wrong thing. Um, so I think it's a little bit more of a tip of the hat to Detroit. I'm not overly concerned about it the thing that I'm honestly like more concerned about in the game when it comes to this matchup Minnesota offense and the Rams defensive line is awesome and I was part of the reason that I think Sam played that way and I I thought the Lions defensive line kicked the crap out of the Vikings

offensive line and so you know with a young, violent, physical, nasty defensive line with the Rams, with the verse and Fisk and Turner, like that's a little bit more has my attention rather than do I think Sam Darnold is going to play poorly again. So I fully expect Sam to bounce back. It's a different defensive structure, way more zone than man than obviously Detroit run. So I think he plays a lot better, but I'll have my eyes more on their offensive line. I got a question about this game as well. Uh, can you explain just how good Puka Nakua is and how, like, how does he get open all the time? And I know that you, you, you can't like just leave, you know, Cooper cup is, is a worry, but Puka

is, it just feels like every time they need a big pass, he's there and he's open. What the hell do you do if you're a defense? Yeah. He, I mean, he reminds me so much of TJ Hushman Zada. You remember TJ back in the day with Chad, like we would be playing against them and you would obviously have your attention to Chad, rightfully so, but TJ would just get open all the time and you would like be like, what the fudge route was that you know like that's not even a route dude you know and he just has this great ability to understand like I do think he's crazy strong he has this really good understanding of like how to

use his body and a strength to lean into guys to get him to kind of be where he wants you to be and then he has a really good feel for space. I think he's crazy smart. Like if you ever watch him. I remember last year when he was starting to break out. I thought one of the things he did as good as anybody in the league what is he gets to the top of his routes. He's always starting to peek to where the defense is. And like gauging Okay, where is the corner? Where's the safety? Where's the backer? So he kind of knows how to get out of the cut and is he going full speed?

Is he going slow? Is he going deep? Is he going high? And so he's got a great kind of feel for that stuff I also think you know I I talked about this a little bit this year like the Rams do and Sean do with him Better than anybody double motions, you know, where they motion twice before the ball gets snapped. They'll set the formation and they'll motion him over and he'll get set and then they'll motion him again. And so, you know, they did a really good job of kind of creating some leverage for him or getting him into some soft spots and he takes advantage of it. And Stafford and him have gotten just countless

reps together. So he's a problem he's a problem to stop it's just crazy to watch it is he's so fun to watch especially without the ball too yeah i love i just love they should do it all 22 except it's all one and it's just following i like that the where's waldo of puka yeah yeah so what about the rams offense though because since that bills game uh the rams offense hasn't looked great yeah uh are you concerned at all with your boy I am he hasn't played well in the last three or four weeks you know he had he had that unbelievable game is specifically on third down where he was just off the charts and so you know since then I think that they fought a little bit of an offensive identity as well you know sometimes I'm like you

know I love their keeper game where they bootleg him and I love their play action game and then sometimes it's like well how come you're not running it? And then I live in the world of I love when they stack Puka and Cooper on the same side, but then like, well, you're getting a little bit too predictable with that. And so I think that they fought a little bit of exactly who they want to be. I also know that there's such a good run game, you know that you it's a challenge and it's a battle of like Hey, I was almost like Baltimore as well Like we're really good running the football and we want to run the football

But we don't want to become so obvious and predictable where teams just keep they get paid as well defensively So they just tee off on us. And so I think they've battled that a little bit I don't believe that Matthews thrown the ball incredibly well over the last three weeks. So I think like, if you were gonna ask me the one thing that has to happen in that game for the Rams to win, I really believe Matthew's gonna have to throw the ball better than he has the last three weeks. I feel differently than when they won

on their Super Bowl run. You know, when they're on that Super Bowl run, I remember the last three, four weeks of season, I was like, they're gonna win it. You know, like he's just playing too well or too good. I kind of feel the opposite where I'm like, he's, he's got to be the person that plays better for them to win. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. Big Cat and I were big fans. Um, at least at times on the Simpsons broadcast, I love the Simpsons. Huge fan grew up watching it. Um, the only thing that we had I think we were saying that the the play was too far behind yeah the live game was and I know that they do that because it's like a whole animated thing but that must have been a

lot of fun to participate in on your part what was your prep like for the Simpsons game yeah it was cool football prep wise you know wasn't nearly what it is you know when you're calling an actual game just because we knew one, the game didn't really have any playoff implications or kind of, you know, the results of it mattering a ton. So we leaned into a little bit more of the let's live in the moment and the animation of it and the Simpsons part of it. So football wise, not a ton. Simpsons wise, a lot, you know, the writers helped us out a lot.

You know, they gave us a ton of kind of notes just to refresh our memories because I'm a 90s kid so I grew up in many ways watching the Simpsons. I have a son who's autistic so anything that has to do with animation is like his super power wheelhouse. Part of it is because he thinks that they're actually real, no matter if it's a still shot, an animation. So, you know, when he found out, he was the most into it person on the planet. And so he was constantly drawing.

He wanted to watch it a ton. So we started having allowing him to watch it a little bit. And so I would watch it with, I'm just trying to refresh my memory with some of the episodes. And so the writers were great, you know, catching up on a ton of episodes, you know, kind of trying to make sure that I was up to date with some of the jokes,

some of the one-liners, some of the kind of the personalities of it. Uh, so it was cool. It was really cool to be a part of the technology is nuts. Did they have any, any prep with you on what they would do if there was like a fight on the field or if like somebody got injured and it's like Ralph Wiggum that's laying out there. Yeah, no, they didn't. I think that they were prepared.

They had so many elements built in, you know, some of like the cutaways of Mo and, you know, obviously the jokes and whatnot. They had so many elements built in that my thought would that they would like go to that the only thing that they really had us Kind of pay attention to in that regard was Like when they brought somebody in the game we more often knew hey that person's gonna impact this place somehow So right, you know if Lisa comes in at running back. It's like well, I would give the bottle Lisa here So like that was the only thing that they kind of hinted to us It took me like two quarters to pick up on that

Alright Dan, I got one last question for you by the way Also, congrats on one of the best clips ever with Shannon sharp the other day. Yeah that locked and loaded Did you see I kind of like that came out Or how it came to be on Pat's show when I hit up Hembo. I was like, it just, during the commercial break at Get Up, I was like, I wonder if, and I texted Hembo, who's the stats guy and he's so good at ESPN, has this ever happened? He just texted back 1992, Ster Sterling Sharp. And when Shannon started talking, I was like, there's no fudging way that you're going here right now. So, yeah. So for people who missed it, Shannon was like, when was the last time a guy won the triple crown and didn't make the playoffs? And Dan was just like your brother in 1992. He was like, like it completely got him. It was just a great moment.

Yeah. Yeah. It was, uh, I had, there's been, you know, the internet when, when it's not on your side, it sucks, but when it's on your side, it's, it's awesome. And so the internet had a field day with that one in a good way for me. Yeah. Yeah. It was very funny. The look on your face afterwards is priceless. I'm such a prick. I'm such a prick. Yeah, you got it. No, but you, you know, you nailed it. Yeah. And you got, you got to take a victory lap sometime. Yeah. I have plenty of moments when the opposite happens. So yeah. All right. So my last question, Ro back question, R H O B A C K.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, ro back.com promo code take. I want to do so I won't make you pick against the spread, but can you give us what you think is going to be your winner

for all six games, wild card weekend weekend and then give us your super bowl. Yep So I think game one is Houston Chargers, I believe I'm taking the charges in that game I think game two is gonna be Baltimore whether Zay Flowers plays or not I feel confident saying Baltimore wins that game. I don't think Pittsburgh's offense is good enough the third game is Tampa Bay and Washington. I'm gonna take Washington. I think Jade and Daniel sniffs 80% completion in that game. I just don't think Tampa

Bay's defense is good enough on the perimeter. Hold up with them. You picked Dan. Thank you. Game number four, Philly. Philly Green Bay. I think the Watson injury is huge for their offense. I think Philadelphia comes out. The only thing that gives me reservation is the one thing that Philly's done a lot of times this year, a little bit less than the second half season, start slow. Jalen not playing practicing for a long time. If they start slow, it does give me, if I was green Bay, I would just bombs away early on in that game.

See if I could grab a lead and control the game. But I am taking Philly and then a Monday night Football fudge dude I'm gonna go this is the toughest one for me um I'm gonna go Minnesota on the road I don't think that same darned place two bad games in a row great game but I'll go Minnesota on the road and then I think the NFC title game is Detroit Philly I think the AFC title game is Kansas City Baltimore, and I'm going to pick I'm gonna pick Kansas City and Detroit in the Super Bowl and I'm gonna say Kansas City does it That'll be one of those maps where like what is the country rooting for? Yeah, one circle in the middle for kids

Are you picking Kansas City because you're just afraid of not picking Kansas City? Or do you actually believe that they're good enough? I'm afraid of not picking my homes. No, I don't really. Yeah. Like, you know, you've done this long enough or you realize people hate you no matter what type of stuff. So like facts, I just, I think that that's a different group when it's winner go home.

I really do. And I do think that are a better team this year than they were last year. Um, and so I just think for some reason, 15 finds away man and they're plenty good enough. It's not like, you know, he's dragging a team to the Superbowl. They're, they're a really good team. And they got healthy in the secondary, which is going to be huge. I'll be secondary for sure. Watson coming back is huge. Bill's Broncos. Did we do that one? Bill's bills Broncos. I did not do. I'm taking the bills. Although again, that game has my attention. Okay. And then obviously the Ravens over the bills. Yeah. I think the Ravens over the bills. I just dude, there's something about Baltimore after I've been around both teams this year. Obviously

I think they're both really good. There's something about Baltimore where Todd Monk and their play caller said to me, as long as we stay ahead of the schedule, we're unstoppable. Like that's their philosophy. And I just think that they're in a unique place where like they can line up and say, Hey, here it comes. Stop. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. They've run it down their throat. That's what happened in the first time they played this season. Yeah. All right. Well, Dan, thank you as always, man. We love having you on love talking ball. We appreciate it and I'm happy you got your phone back Thanks boys. Always good to be with you guys. Enjoy the weekend Dinner loves keys brought to you by Amazon Prime Prime exclusive wild card game this Saturday It's TJ Watt and the Steelers taking on Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. Join Al

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Okay, FireFest of the Week. Henry, you're up. Couple of FireFest, Brandon Walker cucked me out of my chair. I like to have a- You have a cuck chair? You're up. Couple fire fast brain and Walker cucked me out of my chair. I like to have a culture of any woodhead chair. No, I had the venue with a chair in here, but I got outvoted. So back back to the couch. We should actually have been sitting that chair and watch. And then I posted I posted a jumpsuit picture from my condo

and people just you know It's it's the internet, but they're just roasting my my interior design. Oh, no said it looked like I lived in a time chair in Florida Oh, no old woman's home Why do you have to wire the Christmas trees up? I? Like the Christmas tree aesthetic. Yep. I'm keeping them up till after the Super Bowl. Yeah, that's that's when winter ends for me I don't I don't care people get mad. I'll take them down after Christmas. Yeah Super Bowl is the end of winter as far as I'm concerned. That's the end of our season Go on a golf trip the week after Super Bowl and then when we come back that's that's the sign of spring

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's when I will take down my Christmas tree. I'll probably keep posting my Christmas tree just to piss people off but It's winter it's still winter it's Christmas tree season yep I agree I love keeping the Christmas tree up so people are saying you gotta take your Christmas tree down people say I gotta take my Christmas tree down they said which I guess I was reading like oh it looks like you have a timeshare home looks like a vacation in Florida that's the vibe I'm that's the vibe I want yeah yeah I don't know who doesn't want to live where it's vacation all the time yeah you have a minimalistic vibe going in your place it's a Jimmy Buffett stuff you know you know what I don't want to who doesn't want to live where it's vacation all the time Yeah, you have a minimalistic vibe going in your place. It's a Jimmy Buffett stuff

You know, you know what you don't need but it's one of those things and I I Get in my head because it's just people and I shouldn't because it's random people on the internet I shouldn't let it bother me, but it kind of did but it's like why and You realize you know, you can't anything you post people are gonna get mad about anything you say people mad about But I've never I love where I live. I like the vibe I have but now then I get I start second-guessing myself Yeah, so the Christmas tree stays up Christmas tree So you don't need to decorate your house you have the water right with the water that that covers all the interior design Yes, you don't want to try to take away from the water. No. The water is, what is it, zen? Yeah.

Zen. Yeah. Yeah, peace, tranquility. If Marie Kondo went up to your apartment, would she say throw away the water? Mm-hmm. Throw away Lake Michigan? No.

No, she wouldn't. And the trees bring me joy, so I'm gonna keep them up. Love it. I like it, hey, yeah. Yeah. Do you? Yeah. Do you?

Fuck him. Absolutely, fuck him, fuck the haters. PFT, your favorite festival? My favorite festival. I'm first festival jumpsuits. Oh, okay. I am too so Can we mix in some non jumpsuits if you're in there if you're comfortable doing? I don't know I started posting these videos every day now. I'm like I don't I don't know how to stop What do people just send us more jumpsuits? Yeah, that'd be cool. That would be cool. I got more jumpsuits Whoa, Jamie January, but yeah You look like the you look like the Easter Bunny the enemy January Well, it's Jammie January, but yeah. It's called a one piece.

You look like the Easter Bunny the other day. Jammie January. I was the coziest boy on earth. You look so cozy. I love Jammie January. I was really cozy. Okay, so the Fire Fest was wearing the cozy jumpsuits, which I got a lot of feedback on. Positive or negative?

Much of it positive. Some was negative. I thought you looked cute. I did look cute. I looked like I said, I was so cozy. The problem with wearing such a cozy jumpsuit slash pajamas is that everybody comes up to you and touches you. Like I got touched by so many do Oh, yeah, you can't have that last week. I think it was

Jersey Jerry sat down next to me on the couch. He was just like, squeeze, give me an arm squeeze. Yeah. Hey, what's up, Jerry? Didn't see there. But yeah, I I I still have some jumpsuits but my fire fest is that none of them are as cozy as the ones I was wearing this week which were all one pieces mm-hmm and also Hank got me sick yeah you feel so yeah now I feel sick it's my bad it's okay it's okay I you know what I do you know we getting a flu shot by the way if New Year's resolution got a physical so we're halfway down also got a flu shot didn't if we're getting a flu shot by the way, I've news resolution got a physical So we're halfway down

Also got a flu shot didn't know they take getting a flu shot makes you sicker Well, no it get you get a little bit of the flu. Yeah, I didn't know that that was like I was like I got a flu shot. I feel like shit. They're like, yeah, that's the point Yeah, check you with the flu. So you were already sick with the flu Then you went to the doctor and you're like, hey can have a flu shot to take little late Well, you know, I was getting I was getting my physical and I had to get a prescription refilled and like do you want a flu shot it's like how do you say no to that yeah they just hand him out yeah yeah so I said yes and then

yeah I got sicker afterwards yeah we've done a pretty good job me and big cat I've done I should rephrase that you and I big cat have done a very good job of not getting too sick on show don't say this now don't say this now. Don't say this now. Because I had that one day when, uh, high's been Saturday. I was, I could not hold anything down. I was puking like 15 times. It happened on a Saturday. I was able to get back on a Sunday and I felt like shit, but we show up to your job. There have been so many times where Thursday night I drive home and I'm like, Oh, I feel

sick. My body just knows you're off the clock for a day and a half. Yeah. It's okay to get sick now, but yeah, Hank got me sick this week. Sorry. Yeah. It's okay, Hank. I'll fight through it. Okay. All right. My fire fest. Uh, I got a big one. Uh, people who've probably watched surviving bar stool. It has not been a fun week for me, but there's one thing I want to kind of address because I've obviously seen it in the comment section. I owe it to the AWLs

So I think a lot of people knew this but i'm just gonna say it. Let's just fucking do it because I don't know why I don't know why i've been living in shame. Like I don't know why i'm ashamed of this But yeah, I I was I was born and raised in newton massachusetts. Uh, I so growing up I have family in chicago Uh, I would come here once a year. Michael Jordan was my favorite athlete. I kind of rooted for both. I did root for the Patriots. I moved away in 2003 for college. Never moved back. Long time ago. Long time ago. Wasn't like a diehard Patriots fan, but I rooted for them. I moved to Chicago right after college and I loved the city of Chicago.

I loved it when I was a kid, when I would come visit and my uncle would take me to games and stuff. I loved it, I always loved it. So it's kind of like a, this is the city that, it's the other city. Like my uncle was loose. I think he might've lied to me when I was a kid, they're like loosely friends with Phil Jackson. Such an uncle move. Yeah. And I was

just like that fucking awesome dude, because they they used to practice right by where they live. So I always love the city of Chicago. Kind of just moved yet moved out in 2003 have not lived in Massachusetts since then still you know rooted for the Patriots a little bit rooted I never was really hockey and then I you know when I moved to Chicago I started falling in love with you know the city of Chicago and the teams and everything and so it was a slow gradual thing where I started writing about it.

Dave hired me. And he I remember asking him right away. I was like, should I just say this? And he was like, No, just just do your job. Just blog. And go ahead. No, I was gonna say, I'll let you finish. There is context, I think. And this is so long ago, like when I started the 2012, 2013 bar stool was writing city based, there was a Chicago person that was the Chicago writer before you. He was not from Chicago and either the fans basically like ran him out of town. I forgot about that part. And we have other writers who there was a writer from Philly who was from Philly. All he did was live in Brooklyn and people found out he lived in Brooklyn They kind of ran him out of town. So there was like there was definitely and and like you said you asked Dave about it and I think there was definitely like a

You you know you you want people to identify with you and right and I was ashamed The the writers right we had you know, Kay Marco like is from He I always thought he's from New York because he wrote for Barstool New York And then I found out he wasn't from New York I was like wait what cuz yeah, that was like how it was supposed not supposed to come across you're not lying, but like There was there is a lot of context with that that I think people have never understood Especially with the mo and like yeah Neil like all that stuff like there

was a lot of that where it's like that was a big thing back in the day but I don't know why for so long I've let it bother me and like been ashamed of it it's such a stupid trivial thing when it comes to like you know listen I'm sure there'll be some people who are like fuck this I hate them I'm not listening to PMT anymore fuck big cat I get it I Would say to you? Yes, I used to you know root like I have a complicated like Chicago teams are always kind of my second teams I rooted for the Patriots I moved away in 2003 so basically all the all the winning happened after I moved probably was

Probably a curse. I was gonna say would you say that that would be a good choice to make if you were just trying? No, like I wish I didn't make that choice. I wish I had just been like, you know, but I fell in love with the city of Chicago and the teams and I listen, this is why I moved back here. Uh, is why I'm raising my kids here. I just, you know, and my, my fandom of the Chicago teams are, is genuine. I've been doing this for 14, 15 years now. You think someone would subject themselves 13

years to 14 to the bears over the course of the last like 15 years. So if people didn't care about the bears. Yeah. I mean, well the, my other firefests is I did get my tattoo. Thanks Tyreek Stevenson. Finally got my tattoo, paid that bet. So thanks a lot for not paying attention. But so I, listen, I've been, I have, I think I've talked about it on the show. I've, I started seeing a therapist a few months ago. That was not, that's not because of this. That was because of the pressure of having an office where everyone gives you their problems and I never give anyone my problems. I never tell anyone my problems, but I It's something that I shouldn't be ashamed of it's something I should just embrace

I had a great childhood Like I don't know why I just it's part of the context Hank said it's part of like I just don't want people to to hate me and that's another fucked up Like I actually have talked to my therapist about this being a people pleaser, you can't do that. But I should just stop, like stop being ashamed, that's the story. I like my- Ripped the bandaid.

Ripped the bandaid, my teams are the teams for the rest of my life now. And I don't know, you know, I actually, my uncle, I was looking at it because I was just like, last night I was just kinda, you know, I was, my uncle, I was looking at it because I was just like last night I was just kind of, you know, I was, well, I'm feeling great. Wouldn't feel awesome. So my uncle passed away in 2018. Kind of tragically, it was cancer very quickly.

I looked it up because I was just like going through like kind of memory lane. It was actually 2019. And my last text to him is the Bears are the Bears again an unbelievable defense and a maddening quarterback time is a flat circle I'm starting to think Trubisky will never be the guy which is so damn frustrating So like it was it was just funny I was laughing about that cuz I was like shit like but he you know He was part of why I always would you know have a second team like oh, yeah You know Jordan and everything so which everyone when they're growing up like I was I was

I was born in LA I mean when I was three but like when I was growing up I was going I was born like the Dodgers are my second team like yeah That's just like a thing and I still rooted for the Patriots when they were you know like when I was like 18 1920 a little bit out of out of college, but then I slowly was like I I'm gonna be a bear like I want to be In Chicago, this is the city. I want to be in for the rest of my life. I love this city to death and I wanna rep this city. So yeah, that's it. And then also the weirdest thing,

I get this all the time. Yeah, I was in a couple of plays in high school. I did play sports growing up. I just sucked after. So when I was 12 years old, 13 years old, I tore every ligament and tendon in my ankle playing basketball, travel basketball, like whatever the AU equivalent is.

And I just was never, I was never good at anything after that, like I just sucked. I mean, I think people understand I did play like little league soccer, basketball, all that stuff. When you see me playing sports when we do competitions, I don't look like a guy who never played a sport. Also, wait, I don't think that being in a play is anything to be ashamed of.

No, I mean, listen, if we're being totally honest, I was a way to try to get chicks, okay? I didn't work that well, wasn't really fuckin' a lot in high school. Straight guy in theater. Yeah, so. I was a theater guy. Yeah, but people will pick it, and my problem is I let it, I never just said it so then I let a theater guy. Yeah, I mean, but you know people will pick it and I my problem is I let it I never just said it so then I let it bother me and I'm done by letting it bother me

I have a fucking awesome life. I this show is the best thing in the world. I love it so so much Someone asked me the other day PFD on Twitter they're like how long you do the show? I was like dude I'll do this show for as long as people will listen like Like I, I, and I truly mean that. And I know that it's, it sounds corny and shit, but like, I will do this show with these people for, till we're 60, 70, if everyone wants to do it, because I love it that much. And letting something like this bother me, just it, it affects other parts of my life that I shouldn't let it affect. It makes me not as good of a

coworker, boss, father, husband, all that shit. So I'm done with it. So that's it. And if people are going to hate me, I can't do anything about it. I don't think anybody's going to hate you. I think that the, and obviously it's like, it's, it's something that has been like in the back of your mind for a while, but I think the, the, the fear, your fear of the back of your mind for a while but I think the the the fear your fear of the percentage of people that are gonna be like fuck big guy no show is like minuscule I know it's 0.001 percent it's like those type of people like listening to the show who gives a fuck like yeah no they that feared yet consumes that's but that's also not no one's gonna be like I know slamming their fist against their their steering wheel being like ah

And I appreciate everyone who's had my back You know everyone in this room everyone in the booth you told me Yeah, I have talked about it before but I've never said that like, you know, I used to Root for you know the like I used to have a kind of a complicated I root for both teams kind of thing and And not like, I wasn't a full, you know, Bears fan when I was eight, nine years old. And then I, you know, was like, you know what? I'm gonna be a Bears fan.

I'm staying the rest of my life in Chicago. Obviously we went to New York for seven years, but we came back and my kids are gonna be here. They're gonna be raised in Chicago, which I'm happy about. So yeah, and I think a lot of people, yeah, I mean, there's multiple times I've said it, but there's, just say it, I should have just said it. I should have just said it 10 years ago. You told me in 2016, when we first started the show, and after having been around you for

eight years and seeing you probably more than anybody else, I can fully say that you are a diehard Chicago sports fan. Like that's why it wasn't a big deal. It's like, okay, yeah, a lot of us were born in different hand up I used to root for Duke basketball when I was Hank knows that until I read coach case I did root for the Braves dork. I did root for the Braves a little bit Terry Pendleton shout out. Yeah, so did I that's just because They were on everyone and I root for the Cubs cuz I was gonna run with that I was well, yeah, he is I was on the Cubs little league Team and then they I on the Cubs little league team and then they

I could watch Cubs games too. So I would watch Cubs games and Braves games. The but yeah, go ahead. Sorry. No, I was gonna say I yeah TBS watching Braves every day in the summertime. WGN watching Chicago. I didn't have a baseball team. Yeah. Closest with the Baltimore Orioles, which I kind of like. But yeah, listen, people people change a little bit yeah I know it's just I'm in my own head you guys know me well enough that I my probably one of the faults I have is I do care like not to sound like Michael Scott I care too much but I do I do a little bit where it's like Hank tells me all the time he's like dude like Hank will text me be like dude you have an awesome life you have a beautiful family you you make an incredible living. Like why do you care?

It's like I don't know fuck I just still care because I want I want people to like the show that we do and I've always been like oh fuck They're gonna stop liking me People I mean you're not that good of an actor like no like you watch you watch what you do after a bear's loss It's not yeah, who could possibly think that you're faking? Right, right. I put my emotions and everything into it and it's like I, yeah. And I get triggered when you guys say, you know, we should get Mike McCarthy is like,

that's real. I wish it wasn't. And yeah, I probably should have just stuck with positive. My life would have been a lot better. Um, but yeah, I, uh, we just had to say it. And then that also wouldn't have, that's where it's like the context of the old boy. Like that's like, that just wouldn't, it's not a thing. Yeah, no, I know. I know. But I feel good that I'm even saying it right now. So, uh, you know, that's it. I just hope that, you know, people still like me. They

will. They will. I've got a tattoo. Tyree Stevenson. Also just, uh, I was never obviously a credible athlete. I don't think anyone in this room. Actually, Hank peaked when he was well, Matt was an incredible, incredible, incredible. My worst was all American 14 home runs. That's good point. Memes all American. My baseball highlight was in when I was 11 in the city series. I pitched, I was the third pitcher on our team and they started the game with me and the our first pitcher only had three innings that they could pitch And I pitched one hit shut out three innings and my coach pulled me for the for the number one pitcher and we lost I've never lived that one down. I've been so upset ever since I had unlimited imminent It was the third ace you know taking state yeah third ace it's also gotta be said that the tube like two

biggest podcasters Joe Rogan big cat yeah yeah same time yeah yeah that's true although yeah he doesn't really know much I don't know if he talks about it John Krasinski oh yeah that's true how is Joe? He's much older than me. Okay, ten years older Yeah, that is funny I didn't even I didn't connect that But yeah, all right. That was my fire for us. And yeah, I got a tattoo. So I finally paid my bet It's a grateful dead lightning bolt. I think I'm already ready for another one PFT Yeah, we're kind of low-key addicted to getting tats commanders and bears I hope part of hoping that we do this show forever is that we get

25 years down the line and we both have full sleeves and it's just like, all right, that was 2028. Yep. That was 20... That's how they used to write down history, like way back in medieval times. It's like a giant tapestry. Our bodies are going to be tapestries of losing important battles. Yeah.

So that'll be nice to see. Yeah. All right. Well, thank you everyone to all the fans. I really do love all of you and everyone who's had my back Should we finish with numbers? 45 11 Three Eight It's gonna hit I'll do three Do people not have accents?

My parents are not from Boston. That's what so that was that's why I've never had an accent Okay, my parents are both from Massachusetts. It's always everyone. I know that has accents because their parents have accents Yeah, my parents are from being from Massachusetts did really have an accent so I didn't yeah So neither my parents are from from Boston when I did the Dixie tour was down South I would wait on thick the Boston from Massachusetts from Boston No, how was your number? You thought you're coming in there like speaking about it was something yeah, I was like a little something 96 Yeah, I was like a little something. A little exotic. I mean, can I take 99? 96!

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