Pardon My Take - Deion Sanders, Recapping A Great CBB Weekend, Who's Back & We Read A MLB Lockout Article Again
Episode Date: February 28, 2022Incredible college basketball weekend recapped but best times of the year (00:02:56 - 00:31:29). Billy almost went to Ukraine after a few too many beers on Friday. (00:31:29 - 00:41:42)Who's back of t...he week including Buzzfeed's death porn and James Harden (00:41:42 - 01:02:57). Deion Sanders joins us in studio with Dana Beers to talk about the Fall Season of Coach Prime, the difference he's making at Jackson State, Dana Beers drinking too much and tons more (01:02:57 - 01:51:20). We finish up with an article each of us read on the MLB lockout.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's part of my take are good friend Deion Sanders,
first time ever in person, in studio,
plus a very special appearance from Dana Beers,
who drank some beers because he's got a problem.
You might recognize him from his name
being on the Jimmy Fallon Show.
My favorite part about Dana Beers
is every time that something happens,
he's like, is this real life?
Well, yeah, it is, because it's been real life.
But for somebody who's drunk all the time,
you are always questioning your reality.
Is this real, am I alive right now?
I feel like I'm blacked out.
We have college basketball, Unreal Weekend.
We're gonna talk a little who's back,
maybe get into a little who's gonna be announcing
what game in the NFL next year,
because everyone's a free agent apparently now.
And then we will finish up.
We all read an article about the MLB Lockout.
You probably remember this because we've done it before,
but it's been locked out for like 100 days now,
so we all read a new article.
So we're gonna update everyone after Deion.
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Today is Monday, February 28th,
and this is only February.
It's almost March.
Almost.
It's not leap year this year.
By the way, I premature who's back of the week
making the leap year jokes like
no weed on February 29th, 30th, and 31st.
That is true, yeah.
Yeah, sign up for that.
I always wonder like,
we should probably get like a leap year baby on.
How much does that suck?
Well, we are a leap year baby.
Yeah, we are, we're true.
Yeah, we are.
We are, this is our six year
anniversaries between today at midnight
between today and Tuesday.
This is our six year anniversary as a podcast.
Is that right?
No, fifth.
One and a quarter.
We're one and a quarter years old.
2016, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21.
So starting our six year.
Starting our sixth year.
The leap year baby is always confused.
We're in kindergarten.
Like do you call yourself one year old when you're four?
Maybe that's what Hasbulla is.
Maybe he's just a leap year baby.
That's probably right.
Andy Milanakis.
Yeah.
Actually, Andy Milanakis I share a birthday with.
Most famous guy I share a birthday with.
January 30th?
Yes.
Andy Milanakis, shout out the king, the original king.
I think he lives in New York now.
We should get him on the show.
What do you think?
Can we get him on the show?
Sure.
Let's get him on the show.
What do you think the best birthday is?
Like with the most famous people.
We should probably do some research on that.
Have a birthday Olympics.
I actually, before we get to the-
Mine's pretty good.
Besides me, obviously, Jackie Robinson.
Okay.
Who's number one?
You're basing this off of the fact that you know.
Yeah, who's birthday is we should probably do research
on that.
And who's Robin?
Me or Jackie?
That was a backwards way of being like my birthday stacked.
It is, Justin Timberlake.
It's big three.
The unbelievable Saturday in college basketball,
I did tweet, I love this time of year.
Some people were saying that I say that all the time.
So real quick, what is your favorite?
I love this time of year.
Cause I think you're allowed to say that
like seven times a year.
Okay, so off the top of my head,
I love the week of July 4th.
Yup, love this time of year.
Barbecue's, sun, day drinking,
sweating, NBA, well it used to be the NBA free agency, right?
Yup.
I love that.
Big fan of the first two weeks of March Madness.
First two weeks, all of March.
All of March, I love this time of year.
March is a good month.
I love this time of year.
I love Thanksgiving week, feast week, college basketball,
football, everything, I love this time of year.
That's a big, I love this time of year.
All of October, I think probably,
I think I'm just a happy guy.
Well, what's the worst time of year?
I'm gonna say last week of August is pretty bad.
We can hate summer.
He knows. No, I don't hate summer.
No, you do hate summer.
I don't like August, August is too hot.
Last week of August is pretty bad
because I think we all have PTSD
from thinking of that as back to school time.
Of course, that never leaves your brain.
But yeah, it was pointed out to me that I say that a lot
and I think it's just, I'm a happy guy who loves,
cause like I'm now thinking about like
the first weekend of May, Kentucky Derby, NBA, NHL playoffs,
I love that time of year.
Masters, first week, St. Patrick's Day,
I love that time of year.
First week in June can fuck right off.
First week of June, that's usually actually NBA finals,
but yeah, that can, that doesn't really do anything for you.
Yeah.
What about the summers coming up?
Yeah.
Love this time of year.
I love the summer.
You have the whole summer ahead of you.
That's what Memorial Day is for.
I think the only.
Which is the last week of May.
I think the only time you can,
you can't say I love this time of year
is right after the Super Bowl until right now.
That's it.
That's the only time you can be like.
That's the time when I wish
that they made a hibernation drill.
Right.
But now that Super Bowl happens so much later,
you really only have to deal with like two weeks
because we had this Saturday, which was incredible.
This felt like the beginning,
the true beginning of March Madness.
The one, two, three, four, five, six,
and nine teams in the country.
So seven out of the top 10 teams,
really seven out of the top nine
because Baylor was the 10th team lost on Saturday,
upset Saturday, unbelievable.
I picked a really bad time to unearth the,
the Tom Izzo is overrated thing.
Yeah.
But that was such a classic Tom Izzo spot too,
where like Michigan State has no identity
and they've just been sucking terribly.
And then they're going to win that game,
especially with the three pointer that the guy hit.
Who hit that Jake?
We're going to lean on you here.
That was an awesome game.
Just start the day.
And then it was one of those days,
very similar to like a college football Saturday
where you kind of lose perspective.
I was sitting there watching Gonzaga play
in a high school gym at St. Mary's, which I love.
I love the WCC and how all the gyms
are like super, super small.
And I was like, oh yeah, remember,
remember Michigan State beat Purdue like 14 hours ago?
This has been a fun day.
Yeah, no, that, that gym is
Tyson Walker.
Tyson Walker, okay.
That, that gym, I love the WCC.
I love St. Mary's.
They always managed to have like three Australians,
two Kiwis, three guys from the Baltic States on their team.
Remember, remember a couple of years ago
when I, when I smoked a little too much weed
and maybe took a little too much Adderall,
I think I thought I had unearthed
a point shaving conspiracy with St. Mary's.
Yeah, it's like, turns out
that's just how they shoot in Lithuania.
It wasn't true at all.
But it was fun for that moment.
I was very excited.
They went, they went what, 16 and 0
in their home gym this year?
Who, St. Mary's?
St. Mary's.
It's Gonzaga's first WCC loss.
It is, St. Mary's is such a funny like group of guys
because they have their entire team is,
they look like a rock band.
Down to like having their power forwards
and centers look like the roadies.
Like the guys who were carrying the amps and stuff.
And they just, they have some like gnarly looking dudes.
They had one dude who was just fully bald.
And like, I don't even think he was shaving his head.
He was just like, no, I'm 22 years old and bald.
No, they kind of like strike a balance of like,
if BYU did hard drugs, that's what you get with St. Mary's.
Right, right.
It's awesome to watch.
And they beat Gonzaga who now we can say is soft.
Oh yeah.
I don't like Drew Timmy.
Do you like Drew Timmy, Jake Marsh?
I didn't like him last year.
What do you got?
Can I, I have a critique of Drew Timmy.
Go ahead.
I think his shoulders are too small.
They sink down a little bit.
They're too small.
He doesn't have, this is gonna,
he doesn't have man shoulders.
He's got like, you can't play,
you can't play in the low post without man shoulders.
He's got like Reggie Miller shoulders.
Yeah, they're like, they're too slender.
He's got a two, yeah.
He's got like a two guard shoulders,
not a center power forward shoulders.
My critique of him, no.
I'm a big fan.
I think he's okay.
My critique would be that his, his mustache
is a little bit too ironic.
His handlebar stuff.
Yeah, too ironic.
I don't have a problem with guys growing mustache
if they're mustache guys.
Like Big Cat is a mustache guy.
Adam Morrison, who are you talking about there, Hank?
The age man?
Yes.
Yeah.
But yeah, that was around, he was, he was a little,
he was a hipster.
Yeah, no, it's true to me.
Remember last year when he did the,
he did the mustache thing?
Yeah, down 15 against Baylor.
That was when I was like, I'm, I'm off this guy.
The sad mustache thing was like that sorority girl
doing the sad dance.
Yeah.
Oh, come on.
You don't have tears.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But that game was awesome.
Who's number two?
Oh, fucking shout out our guys.
Ronan Caleb, unbelievable day they had.
If you haven't seen it,
I'm sure the whole video is going to come out.
They started the day in Fayetteville,
where the must bus beat Kentucky,
didn't storm the court because SEC,
which it's very, very funny that the SEC of all conferences
where like it means more.
And that's literally they're saying it means more
and people are crazy.
They have the strictest, fine schedule for any team
that are any fan base that storms the court or field.
So Arkansas had, they stormed the field
against Texas in football.
Then they stormed the court against Auburn in basketball.
I think the fine yesterday, if they had stormed
was going to be $250,000, which is crazy.
So they were very adamantly like no storming the court.
They didn't let Caleb and Ron in the game.
They barred them from the game.
To be fair, they were also wearing like storm chasing
uniforms.
No, they were there for a storm.
If they had gotten in, there would have been a storm.
They would have started a storm.
But they let someone in who mooned a free throw shooter.
That's fine.
That's Arkansas.
Yeah.
It plays.
That's OK.
Then why not like Caleb and Ronan?
Well, because I don't think the guy walked in with his ass out.
Yeah.
He's like, hey, I'm the guy here to moon him.
Maybe if they weren't wearing yellow, they would have been in.
Yeah, but no, probably.
They would stand out a little bit.
They were ready for them, Smith.
Yeah, they were ready for them.
No, I'm saying if they were.
They were like, Elmer wearing Arkansas gear
and just weren't either way.
The storm.
They I get a FaceTime.
And like, I don't know, one.
It's probably like three o'clock from them full.
They had their full gear.
They were just standing on the side of the road.
And they're like, hey, is do you think Colorado has
any shot of beating Arizona?
I was like, you guys are going to Colorado.
Like we're thinking about it.
All I said to him was like, it is the back to back in the mountain
trip, which usually isn't great for the opposing team.
And they're like, we're going.
They flew to Denver, drove to Boulder,
got there for the second half.
Colorado had an incredible second half,
beats number two Arizona, stormed the court.
Like maybe the greatest day ever that Caleb and Roan
could ever have.
Like they deserve all the credit in the world.
Chef Donnie, Tom, Trey, just shouting them all out.
What happened unbelievable?
What happened at the end of the Kentucky Arkansas game
where Kentucky's players left the court before the game?
That was because of the storm.
They were reversed.
They were reversed storm.
Yeah, no, they were.
They were basically putting like hiding in the cellar.
They were putting duct tape on their windows.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would also like boarding it up.
Whenever there's a storm, usually the students
don't go like tackle the opposing players.
I actually don't think it's ever happened.
Yeah, I get why they would do it.
But I think I haven't heard any stories of it.
Now, someone in this podcast room
is going to say that I have a bias.
But I faintly remember Coach K complaining
that he thought that he was like under attack once
and thought that his team was going to get injured.
He was crying.
That definitely happened.
That definitely happened.
But I don't think that a player has ever
been accosted by anybody.
Yeah, not that much.
Because we would hear about that.
They would probably just take away the student section
for the rest of the year if that ever happened.
Court storming Coach K. No, there was a member, LeGarret
Blunt.
He hit someone.
Well, that's an opposing player.
He was opposing player.
But is that who?
There was one punch.
No, you're thinking of Germain O'Neill.
No, I know that.
It's an old video.
There was something.
Something did happen on a court storming.
No, it was a player ran over.
It was the Kansas State.
There was a football player who ran over some kid once
and was like, oh, it was an accident.
Yeah, here it is.
I just searched it.
2013 Coach K. Complains About Virginia Court Storm.
So that was probably why it all started.
He was like, I thought I was going
to lose my life for a second there.
And so Cal, he got all his players off
and then left his players out there on the court
to hit a three, a bank shot three at the buzzer
to cover the spread.
Which, yeah, I pushed on that.
And it's a new, I think most gamblers
will understand what I'm about to say,
but I was watching the game.
It was nap time in my house.
I watched the end of the game.
Nap time ended.
My whole family came back in the living room
and I rewound the TV and I made them all watch it.
And they were like, we don't care.
I was like, do you see this?
Do you see this?
There's fucking three.
They're like, please just put on fucking Moana right now.
This is stupid.
It was a freight train that was coming
about five miles per hour.
Yeah, everybody saw it coming.
But it just adds insult to injury
when Cal takes the rest of his team off.
And then he's giving up the game.
I knew too, you guys have been around me enough
to know like, I know when I'm dead, before I'm dead.
It was a math game.
Arkansas was up two to four points
for the last like three minutes.
And I was like, at some point,
a free throw is gonna get missed
and there will be an inconsequential three
that has all the consequences.
Just a couple of quotes here.
Do you know how close you are to just put yourself
in the position of one of our players or coaches?
And I'm not saying any fan did this,
but the potential is there all the time.
But they can just go up to you and say,
coach, you're a blank or push you or hit you or whatever.
What do you do?
What if you did something in retaliation?
That would be the story, right?
We deserve that type of protection.
This is coach K after Virginia stormed the court.
He's basically saying it didn't happen,
but I'm so mad that I lost.
I'm gonna complain about the court being stormed
instead of the fact that I lost.
But it could have happened.
It could have happened.
It could have happened.
I could have died.
Did you ever address what happened with coach K
when he just left at halftime
on the eve of those stories coming out?
I think his grandson needed a ride.
That might have been it.
Hank, did you see that in the news?
Oh, I saw it.
I remember where you guys said.
It was just kind of crazy that they were probably
gonna ask him about what happened with him
just taking the Duke coaching job away from a black coach.
Hank?
That's why he left in halftime.
I thought he was...
It was interesting.
It was just interesting.
This is the last quote from coach K.
I don't think he knows what college kids do.
He said, they should have fun and burn benches
and do all that stuff.
I'm all for that.
They're a great school, great kids,
but get us off the court and that's the bottom line.
Because coach K said so.
That's fair.
Billy.
It was a Nebraska football player
who punched the Missouri fan.
Yes, I remember it very vividly.
It was a really bad sucker punch.
Yes.
Wilson?
And he was saying, he basically was like,
I felt nervous for my life.
Yeah, it sounds like Wilcompton.
Kellan Huston.
Yeah, that's Wilcompton.
No, that's Wilcompton.
He uses that name whenever he checks in a hotel.
So we had Arizona Luz.
We had, who's number three, Purdue?
No, Auburn.
Auburn.
Which that one, as crazy as yesterday was,
Arkansas was a favorite, Tennessee was a favorite.
So there was obviously some games that I think people,
I mean, Baylor was a favorite.
So there was a few games that it wasn't quote, unquote,
an upset.
It just felt like Bedlam because seven out of the top 10
teams lost.
One thing I will always respect about Bruce Pearl
is how the man manages to get more tan over the winter time.
Yeah.
It's insane.
It's like he plays in Maui every weekend.
It's Mike Shanahan.
He just glows.
I think it used to pop a little bit more
when he was coaching at Tennessee
because the orange of the, the Tennessee orange
would be so strikingly similar in contrast to his skin
where he would just, he would just turn into a big,
like a big giant sun out there.
The one, I'll say, I'm going to stop you on the glows.
I think it's a glisten because he always has a sweat too.
Yeah.
It's a glisten.
It's not, it's not like the heavy sweat,
like you see from the Sean Millers of the game.
Right.
But he's always wet.
He's like, he looks like he walked through the misters
at like a really hot like NFL stadium.
Or the Broncos COVID protocols.
Yes.
Walk through the portable car wash.
Yeah, exactly.
The like, oh shit, this will help me.
I'll just get spritzed in the face for a second
and then I won't be dehydrated.
But contrary to what I was saying on last week's show,
I do like Auburn.
I think that they're very fun.
Auburn fans are crazy.
Yeah, they're crazy,
but I love their particular brand of crazy.
Yeah.
I just, I'm mostly saying they're the team.
You know, you always have a team like,
I don't know if I trust them.
Yeah.
That Auburn's my idol.
I'm not so sure if I trust them yet guys.
The craziest thing about yesterday was I walked away
and being, being like Kentucky is still like they lost.
And I was like, they lost.
They had two, two of their best players come back
from injury, Rusty, and they still were in that game.
Like they fought back.
They had a slow, if they keep getting slow starts,
I was at, as much as you can be impressed with a loss,
like a road loss like that is nothing to be ashamed of
in conference play, just like Kansas losing to Baylor.
Like when you lose these tough games,
especially at the end of the season on the road,
you can't be like, oh man, they suck now.
No, it's just really hard to win.
I only think that a team sucks if,
if they're in the top 10 going into senior night
and they lose their senior night game.
Well, yeah, like you can't lose senior night.
Like Gonzaga losing if it's all perspective,
but Gonzaga was a 10 and a half point favorite.
Arizona was a 10 and a half point favorite.
Like those are losses that shouldn't have happened.
The other ones were really good teams that were playing.
Arkansas is a really good team.
Tennessee, Baylor, like these,
these teams are really, really, really good.
You know what I like the new, the new fashion trend
I've picked up on is the net hats.
Yeah.
The students wearing their hats,
they're just the nets that get cut down.
And the sharks in Arkansas students section were awesome.
Yeah, yeah.
They looked dehydrated.
They did.
But yeah, I need to get my hands on a net hat.
I'm a big fan of novelty hat.
What else from, so we were talking before the show
cause PFT asked Jake,
what was your question about Providence?
Do you think the Providence,
they're already in the,
they will make some noise department.
I've got that file set aside for them.
But would you say is Providence a real threat?
Absolutely.
The first off, shout out to coach Coolie.
Providence won the biggies for the first time ever.
Yeah.
On Saturday.
Crazy.
Which is crazy to think.
And they won it with two games left.
Yeah.
Their mascot still freaks me out.
Of course.
He is the biggest creep in the world.
Now, mine is the St. Louis Billiken.
That's a pretty creepy one.
Yeah, it looks like the Wu Han bat.
Did you, yeah, he's, that one's creepy.
Do you see Xavier's got like an alternate mascot
that basically is just a blue blob?
It's very weird.
Interesting.
Yeah, I don't.
West of Kentucky's in that category.
Yeah, it's basically what, they were like,
ooh, Western Kentucky's cool.
Let's just make a blue version of that.
Yeah.
No, Providence, look, 24 and three.
Yes, they've won some tight games.
But overall, 24 and three is 24 and three.
So, yeah.
And I think they can make the final four.
So, why not?
Like, the thing that drives me nuts,
and I love, obviously, Ken Palm is great
because he, like, you can basically look
in the history of college basketball,
like what teams will eventually be national champions,
what teams will be final fours, those advanced stats.
Everyone's got advanced stats now.
I love using them.
I do think that there's something that, like,
the pendulum has swung too far on advanced stats,
not by the guys who make the advanced stats.
It's by casual fans who then discredit good teams
because their advanced stats suck.
Providence is number one team in luck, right?
That's what Ken Palm says.
Wisconsin's actually very similar,
where it's like, Wisconsin wins a lot of close games,
hasn't blown a lot of teams out.
Everyone's saying, oh, wait till March, they suck.
I think if you're a Providence fan,
you have to just tune all of those fucking people out.
They have grace at this point.
Yeah, because it's like, enjoy the ride.
College basketball is so much fun.
The big games are so much fun,
like storming the court after you win the Big E's
for the first time.
Do you think any of those fans care about fucking luck?
Like, that's so stupid.
So, what happens if Providence loses in the second round?
And everyone's like, oh, they sucked all along.
Don't let them take it away from you.
That was a really fun season.
The tournament is really, really hard.
Anything could happen.
I said to you, Jake, like Illinois last year,
Illinois was really good last year.
Yeah, they could've won it all.
They could've won it all.
They had a bad game against Loyola, Chicago,
who played their best game of the season.
That doesn't mean they sucked all year.
It just means a single elimination tournament
is really hard to win.
So, I think Providence fans, embrace it.
Don't let anyone fucking rate on your parade.
Big E's champions, it's,
so what if some of these games are lucky?
Like Jake said, 21 and three is 21 and three.
24 and three is 24.
But also, the way that your team plays in close games.
Absolutely.
You can't really write stats around.
You can't sequence the clutch gene.
You can't actually put numbers around everything
that matters at the end of the game,
like all the small stuff.
So, yeah, that's just, it might not be quantifiable.
You might not be able to read it in a stat online,
but it's still a thing that your team is good at.
You can still say like, we're a very good second half team.
We're very good down the stretch.
Having seniors, having like senior leadership,
not being able to say to yourself,
like we're not gonna let this moment be too big.
Absolutely, that all matters.
And also hitting your free throws.
Yep.
Like at the end of a Wisconsin game,
if Brad Davidson's going to the line,
he's gonna make them.
You know what I mean?
Like those are the type of things.
If you have those type of guys on your roster,
that's not luck anymore.
That's just having good players who make free throws
in clutch situations.
Back in high school, when I was doing brackets,
I would always bet on the teams
that had the higher free throw percentages.
Team-wise, in the first two rounds.
And it's usually a pretty good bet to make
because so much of it does come down to the end of the game
where, yeah, if you have like a freshman
that's attempting free throws,
the moment's a little bit too big.
And a lot of it is, yeah, free throws,
and having a guy who can bring the ball up.
Like a senior guard who's not gonna get rattled.
Yeah, right.
Who's not gonna get rattled in big moments.
Those two things matter.
I've got a dumb idea that could revolutionize the NBA.
Why don't they just go full court press?
Because they get tired.
Yeah, but the other guys get tired too.
Yeah, but I think the defense gets really tired.
Because then you got to also play offense
with those same defenders.
I mean, 40 minutes from hell, no enriched.
Yeah, those are electric, yeah.
Always love that.
I love whatever a team whips out a press
and it just demolishes the other team.
It's just hard to do for a sustained amount of time.
I'll bet you there's gonna be an NBA coach
in the next five years, someone who has absolutely
no business coaching at an NBA level,
probably on the Knicks, that's just gonna be like,
here's what we're gonna do.
We're gonna press.
We're gonna play hard defense,
and then he's gonna absolutely barrel out that first year.
Probably not make it through the end of the season.
The best is though, when you try to press a team
and everyone on the other team can handle the ball.
So it's like you try to press him and then,
oh look, here's the center being able to dribble the ball.
That's also probably why, because everyone in the NBA
can handle the ball, so it's not.
Essentially, when you press in college,
you're like, at least two or three of these guys
doesn't feel comfortable dribbling
for more than three seconds, so we can do this.
There's a guy that's seeing the water boy
where the kicker looks at him,
he's like, yeah, that's my bitch right there.
There's one guy that you try to funnel the ball to
on the press.
Yeah, there's one guy who's always on a college roster
who catches the ball and immediately panics.
It's like, okay, well, you're fucked.
I looked up Ken Palm,
because I didn't know where he came from,
like what his background was.
He's actually a storm chaser himself.
Yeah, he has a master's degree in atmospheric sciences.
From like Utah or something?
University of, he's an instructor there at Utah.
He got his from the University of Wyoming.
I knew he was out west somewhere.
Yeah, but he's become, yeah, I mean,
Ken Palm is not a secret anymore.
It was maybe five, 10 years ago, but everyone uses it.
It's, I think Vegas uses it.
Players and the coaches use it for the scout.
Yeah, players and the coaches use it.
So obviously he himself is a genius
and what he does is great.
I just don't like when casual fans try to discredit
some of these teams who are having great seasons.
It's like, fuck you, dude, it's hard to win games.
24 and three, Providence?
Like, I don't care if they're lucky.
So where, where's the Providence right now?
They're pretty far down there, aren't they?
Well, in terms of Ken Palm, 39.
Yeah, so.
And they're the top 10 to 15 team right now.
I remember SVP, like a few years ago,
he would fight every single day online
cause Maryland was like very good
and Ken Palm had him like outside the top 20.
And he's like, I don't care.
Like they're good.
Don't apologize for winning.
Yeah, it's like Wisconsin this year, they're good.
I don't care.
Like they're not great.
They're not the best team.
I never said they were, but you can't get this.
You can't get this point in the season
and be one in your conference and be like, oh no, they stink.
That's just not, that's not how it works.
I completely agree.
I was wrong in the pre-season.
No, I'm not.
This is not a year.
Yeah.
This is more for Providence people.
Providence people get it all the time.
Like everyone is going against Providence
being like the luck has to run out and it hasn't.
And maybe it never will.
But also playing in these tight games
is great experience for when it matters most.
A great point.
In March, they could win four two-point games.
They're battle testing.
And go to the final four.
Like who knows?
Best, I love this time of year.
Best time of year.
Best time of year.
This is truly the only time I say it.
Best time of year?
Well, you're a man of integrity.
When does that start?
When is your best time of year start?
I'd say the day after the Super Bowl
through the final four.
So you're not even including the Super Bowl
in your best time of year?
When college basketball,
college basketball is my favorite sport
when it has all the spotlight.
It hits different.
I'd agree with that.
Yeah.
Yeah, it does.
Like that Saturday was awesome.
Yeah.
It was wall-to-wall the best
just watching every single game.
It was literally like every single two hours.
Like, oh, here's another huge game
that's gonna happen.
Here's another big game
where there's gonna be an upset.
And now we have brackets.
And now we have-
The mid-major tournaments starting.
We have brackets.
Like it's great to see like,
ooh, this team has this path to go dancing.
I love brackets.
You're like a freak.
I do.
I love staring at brackets.
Quickly, give us,
before we move on to some other talk,
give us your four one-seeds and four two-seeds.
On the latest, Jake March.
Yes, I just updated it.
You just updated it.
Yes.
Wow.
Okay, so
number one overall.
So there's actually not a lot of change
despite all the chaos this week
because who do you move up?
Yeah, right.
So it kind of cancels out.
Duke did beat Syracuse, Syracuse.
That was embarrassing.
Syracuse is circling the drain.
Yeah.
At this point.
It was supposed to be a wild season.
It is not.
Coach K called in to Jim Bayheim's radio show.
He did.
It was Mike from Durham.
Mike from Durham.
It was a little fun treat that he did.
That's funny.
That's really funny.
Bayheim is Coach K's only friend, I think.
Yeah, oh yeah.
And they don't even like each other.
Well, and his sons.
Well, they coached the place 38 minutes ago.
They coached us.
They did it together.
Yeah.
Mella was on a team, it's pretty wild.
The one-seeds right now.
I have Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, Auburn.
Auburn was a lock a couple of weeks ago.
Oh yeah, that could be Kentucky or Duke's one-seed.
Yeah, so I'd say right now Gonzaga, Arizona
are definitely getting it.
Kansas, Auburn maybe.
And then twos are Baylor, Kentucky, Duke, Purdue,
Wisconsin, Villanova, Texas, Tech Providence, the threes.
Interesting.
Now how locked in?
I think if Wisconsin beats Purdue, they flip flop.
And that would be a good game on Tuesday night.
I'm excited for it.
How locked in do you get on your seeds
and how much can change in a conference tournament?
Oh, I mean, well, first off, this is my first year doing it,
but a lot will change.
Yeah, no, I want to know your,
go in another formula.
Yeah, what's behind it?
Open the kimono for me.
Who you got your playing games?
Right now, it's actually...
This is like of the playing games,
doing the playing games, Bracketology.
Oh yeah, this is just a capture.
A few weeks before is...
I know what I'm doing, I'll film.
Yeah, it's equivalent to the mock draft
with six trades in the first round.
I met this one dude in Austin a few years ago.
I forget the guy's name,
but he is a Bracketologist and he is obsessed with the NIT.
Oh, I love it.
He doesn't give a shit about the NCAA tournament,
but he gets fucking laser focused on the NIT,
breaks down all the matchups,
has his Bracket ready to go before they announce it.
Dude, I love all the...
I love the CBI, the CIT, are they playing those this year?
Yeah, the CBI's in Daytona Beach.
I don't know about the CIT.
And the CIT?
I don't know about the CIT.
Is the CIT the one where the championship games played,
it's like a two game series at someone's home?
I love those tournaments.
I've told this story before,
but in a former life for everything, before Barstow,
I was taking a GMAT class
and I thought I wanted to go to business school
and I was betting CBI and CIT games in a business class
I had paid a lot of money for, or GMAT class,
and I was like, this is the wrong thing for me.
Yeah, right now actually one of the first...
It was like Oregon State was playing.
One of the first four games I have a blue blood showdown,
Indiana, North Carolina.
Whoa, that would be fun.
That would be sick.
Very fun.
Do you agree, Wisconsin, right now with three?
Yeah, no, I think three is fair.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, their win against Rutgers was very big.
Yeah, yeah, so.
Tune in, by the way, Benchmont, Brad Davidson on today's show.
There we go.
Love this time of year.
We've got some more stuff coming up.
We're gonna have Titus on.
I think we're gonna have JJ Redick on coming soon.
So we're gonna have a lot of good basketball content
this next month.
I've really loved John Rostin, by the way,
tweeting during the war in Ukraine.
Oh yeah.
Like, when everything's going to shit
on that first night and he was like,
wow, just saw a schedule release pop out
for like Providence at Corpus Christi 2024.
Very excited for this.
This is only February.
By the way, the war in Ukraine,
can I just ask one question?
Friday night, Billy, how close were you
to getting a flight to Ukraine?
Because you had a tweet, you deleted it.
What was the tweet?
So the tweet was.
It was fun, I haven't.
I was coming by who's back.
Me and the buddies like, you know.
Wait, I'll read it, then you can explain.
Yeah.
It's from Billy Football.
The boys and I are about seven beers deep,
when I read that, I'm so used to reading
PFT's notations afterwards.
So what would you translate that to, PFT?
Me and the boys are about seven beers deep.
Are about seven beers deep.
I'd say probably a dozen.
I'd say 12.
Yeah, you have to do doctor math,
which I hope that they teach every doctor in America
to do that when they ask you how much you drink.
And you say, I have like three beers on a Friday.
You have to at least triple that.
Yeah.
The boys and I are about seven beers deep
and considering the free plane ticket
from the Ukraine embassy to go defend freedom.
We'll wake up and totally not do it,
but we're getting hype RN.
We're getting hot.
You did get hype about it.
We would get.
If they had, if at that moment,
if you hadn't deleted that tweet,
let's just play out a little scenario here.
If you hadn't deleted that tweet,
which you shouldn't have, cause it was very funny.
And they in the Ukraine embassy saw the tweet
and was like, we will be there in 30 minutes.
We got a, we got a fucking private plane
and some AK-47s and rocket launchers.
Do you think you would have gone?
You know, those like memes where the guys like,
oh, went out with the buddies and ended up
in a different country.
You mean, you mean the hangover of the movie?
You know, we saw it.
We did do the footwork where we like Googled
like how you would do it.
That's some serious footwork.
Yeah.
It sounds like you were basically in Ukraine.
Basically.
And the pay is insane.
What is it?
I think it's like three K either a week.
You'd be in mercy.
Billy Merck's?
But what happened is, so you go to the embassy,
they get you a ticket, they fly you to Budapest,
then they take you on a convoy over the border
and then like you get to the outskirts.
What's crazy about that is getting in is easy,
but like, I think the problem is getting out
once you're there.
Okay, Billy.
So.
Yeah, once the war ends.
Yeah.
Once you kill Putin, they'll let you out.
Final boss.
But you know, it's not, I believe it's like,
I'm sorry, it's not, we shouldn't really be,
you know.
Joking about it.
But I'm not joking about it.
Whatever the pay is, I will triple it for you to go there.
I'll match.
If Donnie.
So that's six times.
If Donnie wants to go to Ukraine,
because I want to go with someone else,
need a little buddy system.
The boys.
The boys, yeah.
Seven beers deep.
They got jobs.
Well, no, answer me there.
Who was you to?
Which one of the boys was it?
Which of the boys?
Was the one that was really instigating.
That was like leading the charge on Google.
No, we were just, you know,
I hadn't seen him in a long time.
You're doing cyber warfare.
Some of my teammates.
That's usually what happens when I don't see my friends
for a long time.
Let's go fucking fighting a war.
We were talking, you know, current events.
You know, we were talking current events.
And we were like.
I do love how it seems that,
it's like, how's your kids?
Hey, how's your kids?
Has seen any good wars recently we can hop into?
I love how Ukraine just,
it appears that they have pound for pound,
the most badass civilians of anywhere in the world.
And when you look at,
they've got like the Klitschko brothers.
Yeah, that's my who's back.
Yeah, they've got a little Machanko.
It's like, what's that, what's that sound in Iowa?
I think it's Iowa city.
It's like, if you get into a bar fight in Iowa city,
chances are you're going to end up either
against a collegiate wrestler or a professional MMA fighter.
Yeah.
It's like Ukraine is entire country
just built out of Iowa city.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, but it, you know.
It's not a joke, but it would have been cool if you went.
Yeah.
The sports world has been condemning Putin
and they're not, they're not pulling any punches.
I saw that the, uh, the world pass.
The world cup said that, no, impasse in, listen,
trigger alert for all you impasse out there
that understand emotions and feel bad for other people.
You might not want to listen to this part of the podcast
because it's about a war.
There's, uh, the world cup is like,
not allowing Russia to compete using their flag.
Whoa.
They're saying you, you take this one step further Russia
and you're out of the tournament.
Damn.
But as of right now, they're allowed to compete,
I think under the Russian Federation acronym.
And then, uh, the judo, the international judo federation
stripped Russian president, Vladimir Putin
of his most senior official position in world sports,
citing the ongoing war conflict in Ukraine.
I, this is like, um, this is very similar to, uh,
DM and Caleb Williams and being like,
I know it's probably not going to do anything,
but if there's like a 0.001% like what if,
what if Putin was like,
they took away my judo black belt?
I'm out.
Well, he was the president of the international.
I kind of like it.
He was like an honorary president.
Do everything.
You know what?
I'm banning Vladimir Putin from part of my take.
Yup.
Sanctioned and any oligarchs.
Unless he wants to come on in person
so that way we can kill him.
Yeah, Billy will.
Billy will kill him.
Yeah.
Okay.
So you are invited onto the show,
but you have to sit in between Billy and Jake.
And it's not a trap.
Not a trap at all.
It's not a trap.
Yeah.
We are sanctioning all oligarchs, Russian oligarchs
and Vladimir Putin from coming on part of my take.
And we are pro ghost of Kiev.
Yeah.
That's one of those ones.
It's weird.
It doesn't matter though.
It was going like three for three on misinformation.
No, no, no.
It doesn't matter.
I saw Billy's tweet and immediately,
I want to believe it,
but if like I consider myself a student of warfare
and aviation war as well.
I don't think anyone's got an ace in a day
in like 75 years.
And it's also.
Right, because there hasn't been a war.
Because they didn't have air to air missiles
like they have right now,
which makes it virtually impossible.
It was 30 hours.
But.
So he landed and went back up.
That's also the weird.
He tapped in.
And then, yeah.
He didn't sleep in.
He switched planes.
He fell back and sleep.
He gassed up, grabbed some combos of 7-Eleven
and went back up there with some strikes.
He goes back.
You know, pumping misinformation,
like that's going to actually help them out.
So it doesn't really matter.
Maybe if there's a 0.01% that Billy's tweet,
that's true.
About to go and help.
Sure.
I just think there's definitely a weird thing
that's happening on Twitter right now of like war porn.
Yeah.
That it's like, I feel really uncomfortable with this.
Yeah, sure.
Stick to college basketball.
I did respect the guy that was carrying
the anti-tank mine away from the bridge
while smoking a cigarette.
Was that real?
That was real.
Yeah, okay.
And then there was the farmer.
Wasn't it though?
That could have been from any time.
Yeah.
No, that was real.
And it's an anti-tank mine.
How?
Do we know that was real?
I saw it from several people on the top.
Who cares?
Let's just gas up the Ukrainians.
Yeah, just gas.
They need some gas.
You know, we're also making.
Oh, shit.
Come on.
We're hyping them up.
But it also makes war look cool and war's not cool.
War's not cool.
That's the part that's a little.
But Klitschko standing with a machine gun
was pretty fucking badass.
It is, but the situation that he's in.
Right, right.
Very uncool.
Right.
Deeply uncool, Sitch.
A lot of fake videos going around.
That's the weird part.
All right.
Well, the weirdest part is like the people
that take a video that know that it's not from this thing.
And then they just like tweeted out themselves.
Well, it's the people that started.
It's very, very strange.
Do you think that, yeah, I mean, this is, listen.
We're at a point in the world where I don't think
there's anything that could ever happen.
Tragedy, like an apocalypse where someone wouldn't be out
there trying to get some cloud off of it.
That's just a fact.
That's just how the game works now.
I'm sure there'll be some fake like nuclear missile cloud
going around.
People will be like, oh, look, I saw these warheads
down the street.
Like when Matt Patricia tried to do that
to Marcus Mariota before the playoff game in Hawaii.
And they're like, hey, nuclear threat inbound.
That's right.
That's right.
Did you really do that?
No.
That would have been fucking awesome.
We got a lot of fact checking on this.
Spotify is going to pull this podcast for sure.
Fuck it.
We'll be the bad boys.
This episode, the only episode ever deleted.
Do you think, could we do an episode of the Joe Rogan
podcast, like one of the ones that they took down
where we just, we do a cover episode?
Yeah, I don't want to do that.
We just say all the words.
Billy has to say them.
Deal.
Okay.
Jake has to say them.
Jake's quoting it.
You know he wouldn't say it.
Nobody's ever covered a podcast before though.
Could be lucrative.
Just re-release them like Taylor Swift.
All right, let's do who's back.
Sorry, Hank.
Who's back?
You're right.
I'm out of practice.
I don't know why I'm out of practice.
Why would I be out of practice?
Oh, because we didn't have a show last Monday.
That's why I'm out of practice.
Yep.
Yep.
Who's back this week?
I'm stupid, but I didn't.
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All right, who's back of the week, Hank?
My who's back of the week.
This is my favorite time of the year
because college baseball is back.
Oh yeah.
Thank you, Mitzy.
Thank you, Mitzy.
We'll get to the MLB later at the end of the show.
But Tommy Tanks, he's on NC State.
I believe it's seven home runs in his first nine,
maybe eight out of 10.
Either way, he's kind of the main story,
the main attraction of college baseball this year.
With no baseball going on,
it's getting even more heightened coverage.
This is college baseball's time to shine.
Bombs.
Yeah, he does.
Tommy Tanks seems to have a great name.
Who's the dude on, I think he's on Ole Miss, the big dude.
Yeah, that guy's like seven feet tall.
That dude's awesome too.
Yeah, Tommy Tanks has, I saw a list of most home runs
per team.
Eight home runs in seven games.
Yeah, like, no, I think it's nine now.
I think it is nine.
Nine and eight games.
Wow.
We have the stats here.
Yeah.
Nine home runs, 21 ribbies, 29 RBIs and a lot.
I like where you snout.
Go with ribbies.
Also, some people get mad when you say RBIs.
Yeah, it's arts.
Because technically, arts, runs, batted ins would sound weird.
Ribbies.
Ribbies.
It's RISB.
And a 588 batting average.
Wow.
Are they playing real teams yet?
I got a check.
Tommy Tanks is on another planet.
I'm not going to do that.
We should just get the disinfo going,
just become a disinformation podcast.
This guy, Tommy Tanks, is the guy from the college,
or from the Little League World Series a few years ago
that said he just loves hitting dingers.
Dingers, yeah.
Evansville, High Point, Longwood, and Quinnipiac.
Okay.
Quinnipiac.
Great schools.
Legit.
They scored double digit runs in six of the eight.
Up to speed on baseball.
Yes, absolutely.
In January, February, and Connecticut.
I'm sure they've been training.
I feel like their baseball team is just,
it's their hockey team that's trying to stay in shape.
Yeah, it's like all the cold weather teams coming down.
They're pushing the extra guys in one of the three games,
12 to 10 and 10 innings.
Just to get Tommy Tanks to tank their ass.
All right, that's your who's back?
That is, I also had storm chasers in Billy Warmode.
Yeah, we covered that.
Billy Warmode.
P.F.T., your who's back.
My who's back of the week is Hank the Tank.
Hank the Tank is back.
He's been kind of exonerated.
So they did DNA testing on all the bare break-ins.
It turns out there are three different bears
that are performing these break-ins.
Love it.
So that means that Hank the Tank is no longer
in jeopardy of being shot and killed.
Yeah.
But what about?
Unless that's misinformation so that they can make you,
it's okay if they kill all three.
Do you think it's like,
they realized that Hank the Tank had celebrity.
Yeah.
If they killed him, it was gonna be a problem.
Or this could be like their version of the wire
where they had to invent a serial killer
to get more funding.
Maybe the parks department invented Hank the Tank
to get people's attention on the bare break-ins.
That's what I think about the action actually.
By the way, because we made a Hank the Tank shirt,
go buy it in preparation for his untimely death.
So we could sell more shirts.
Memes tip me off that the Bengals fans
found the Harambe shirt like a few days ago.
Took them a couple weeks and they were very mad.
Yeah, they're extremely upset.
But to be fair, we told people not to buy the shirt.
We said it was a sicko shirt.
And also to be fair, if you should be mad at anyone,
it should be mad at the Cincinnati suit.
Not if we didn't kill Harambe.
It's a great litmus test of like the,
like I said that again.
No, it's okay.
Like the hive mind of the internet
when it's like, as someone posted it,
I saw it, I was like, I can't believe they made this.
And then there was a lot of people being like,
I know this is so fucked up.
And then there was a few people that were finally like,
yes, it's funny.
Like, it's not that serious.
Also shout out to a few people who I assume
are AWOs who snitch tagged me.
That was nice of them.
It's like, who the fuck made this?
It is right below.
It's like big cat.
It's like, fuck, damn it.
My other who's back of the week is my back.
Have a little back injury
that I'm battling through over here.
Ben Simmons?
It's not good.
I stopped doing my stretches because I'm lazy.
Stopped doing my exercises.
So today, as I was cleaning up my pile,
the back got thrown out again.
But it's not all bad news
because Stu Feiner had reached out to me
last Thursday or Friday
and invited me to do something really stupid,
which I was going to do.
It was...
Oh, he hit me up too.
I did not respond.
Yeah, I replied to it.
He invited me...
He tried to honey-dick me with you.
Did he?
Yeah.
He honey-dicked you?
He tried.
Go ahead and say it.
I think he honey-dicked me with you too.
And then I'll say what he said to me.
Stu Feiner reached out and was like,
hey, a bunch of us are doing this half marathon.
Do you want to sign up for it with us?
And at the time I was like, you know what?
Like, I've never wanted to do anything
less in my life than half marathon.
I hate running.
Running's the worst.
It fucking sucks.
Don't do it.
But I was like, maybe I could be the first person ever
to do a half marathon
and not ever tell anybody about it.
So I wasn't going to talk about training.
I wasn't going to talk about it after the fact.
I was just going to do it and see if I could do it
just to see if I could do something
that I really did not want to do.
But now I have a back injury.
I can't...
That's a week of training.
It's eight weeks away.
There's no chance I can do it now.
If you think canceling a dentist appointment
is an electric rush,
imagine canceling a half marathon.
Yeah, well, I did.
It feels great.
He texted me was like,
hey, we got this half marathon.
PFT's running it.
And I just didn't respond.
And then a day later he was like,
you don't love me anymore.
I was like, no, I still love used to.
I'm just not running 13 fucking miles
on Long Island in like the middle of fucking
whatever March.
No, no, it was going to be May, I think.
Okay, either way.
The first day of May.
But I'm so pumped to not have to train
for this fucking thing and then running.
And it would have just been the worst of all time.
You got to get back on your stretches, dude.
I got to get back on the stretches.
It's like 20 minutes a day that changed my life.
I played pickup hoops for the first time
in two years on Saturday.
And my stretching before and after
was longer than the time I played.
Yeah.
That's just what it is now.
That's just life.
It's so easy to do.
Yeah, this is for...
Well, the tricky thing is
once you do the stretches, you feel better.
And then you stop doing the stretches
to feel better.
Correct.
You're like, I'm good.
All right, my who's back of the week is
James Harden, who is healed of all ailments.
The new look, Sixers look pretty damn good.
Also, everyone's very upset because
they're going to break the record for free throws today
against the Knicks.
Joel Embiid shot 27 free throws
and James Harden shot 10.
The game took like four hours.
So this is going to be awesome though,
watching James Harden.
And I do think the Sixers are very good now.
James Harden's perfect piece to pair with Embiid,
but it's going to piss people off,
especially that James Harden has now done it twice
where he's skinny all of a sudden again.
He feels great and he just duped everyone.
He's going to do that to the Sixers.
Oh yeah, that's what's so funny about the situation
is like a year from now, year and a half from now,
they're going to be in the exact same situation
that James Harden was with on the Knicks.
But you don't care as long as you can win.
If you can win and then he turns into Dick Head later,
that's fine.
Doesn't matter.
I think everybody in the situation,
even Daryl Morey probably knows,
he's like, all right, the clock has started on this right now.
We have about six months of Prime Harden.
Yes, let's get it done.
Are there any strip clubs in Philadelphia?
Yes.
There are?
There's a BYOB strip club in Philadelphia.
Oh yeah, so that's like two months now.
I love it.
The clock's at two months.
And then my other who's back is Buzzfeed,
because sometimes you just get lucky
you're online at the right time when a tweet gets posted
and you're like, you know this is going to get deleted.
Buzzfeed tweeted it to us.
I saw Billy's tweet on Thursday.
Yeah, you're like, oh, God put me here in this moment,
knowing that this won't be here for the next five minutes
from now.
They tweeted, nurses, what is the most haunting thing
someone has said to you on their deathbed?
Oh my God.
That's going to be a hell of a slideshow.
You won't believe what these people said right before they
died.
How crazy is that tweet?
Take this quiz to find out what sort of haunting deathbed
statement you are.
I'm not even taking it from the perspective
of like the like Twitter cancellation, like,
fuck dead speed or Buzzfeed.
I almost said dead speed.
Buzzfeed.
I love how Buzzfeed just goes so fucking hard in the paint.
They're like, we will make content out of anything.
I wish they kept that up.
Like, why not?
Like, go.
I even said, I was like, do do paramedics.
Like, paramedics, what's the like grossest
dead body you've ever come across?
Just like the grossest thing you've seen.
Yeah, police officers.
Tell us.
Yeah.
What's the most gruesome crime?
What's the most gruesome car crash
you've ever seen, paramedics?
And there's definitely, the thing is,
there's a market out there for it.
Yeah, I would have clicked.
If they had made that article, they definitely
would have gotten all the traffic from it.
And everybody would have like pretended to dunk on it.
But the reality is, people would have clicked on it
because they're interested in the creepiest shit ever.
Yeah, Buzzfeed, go for it.
This is why, what was the old website?
Not LiveLeak, Faces of Death.
Remember that?
Yeah, that was a bad one.
That was a website for a while, folks.
I don't know if it's still there.
That shit, you were just going on to see dead bodies.
There's a Reddit thread about people's last words.
Really?
Yeah, and there's a ton of them.
So that's probably what they did out there.
Yeah, it's usually, it was all about people
confessing to crimes they did when they were younger
that they'd gotten away with.
And then one guy said where the money was hidden.
Wait, Billy, pull up the thread.
And then later on in this episode,
this is a cliffhanger, we're going to do the Buzzfeed article.
OK, cool.
Yeah, that would be awesome, though.
Like right before you die, just whisper to the nurse,
I did it.
It's like, then they got to figure out what the fuck you did.
Can we get a backtrack real quick to the dead body website?
Yeah, FacesofDeath.com, you know, or Rotten.
This is, you know, Rotten, yeah.
Rotten was really bad.
This is early internet.
Early internet.
I don't know if they, I don't even want to look up on it,
on them anymore.
It was just like, you could just see the, it was basically,
it was actually Rex Chapman's Twitter feed.
Yeah, it was like, watch this guy get electrocuted,
block of charge.
It was, you'd like, you'd like go over to your friend's house,
the friend that had like absentee parents that were never around.
After school, and then you would go on the internet,
type in Rotten.com, and then your fucked up friend would be like,
look at this guy, I got shot in the face with a shotgun.
And then all the sane people in the room would be like,
OK, we're leaving.
Yeah, no, we don't want to look.
And then he'd look and be like, no, I shouldn't have looked.
I peaked, and then I was like, I'm above this.
This was terrible.
Yeah, I'm going to pretend that I'm better than you.
And you'd have one kid who would just be like, would love it.
And he'd be like, this is fucked up.
Facesofdeath.com.
Wasn't there a curb thing where he got a death book?
Did I make that up?
I don't know about that.
I was more of a, I was a Mulletsgalore.com guy.
Yeah, Hank was a meat spin guy.
I've said meat spin a few times.
People are like, definitely.
I mean, I meat spin my friends all the time.
It was funny.
It was the original one.
Yeah, said it is your home page, you know.
I was a lively guy, but not, I mean, that had crazy shit.
Yeah, lively kind of little that.
I didn't think I was going on there for dead bodies.
Am I?
I was a Justin TV guy.
Go there, watch some pre-season NFL games.
Check out the chat.
The chat on the Justin TV streams was always electric.
That was Twitch, right?
It turned into Twitch, yeah.
It was Twitch before Twitch was.
Maybe?
No, it literally, like.
No, it did, yeah.
It turned into, the company became Twitch.
But originally it was just like people broadcasting,
like a, I don't know, Univision.
Like, oh yeah, yeah.
Yeah, you have just like illegal streams
for everywhere on the planet.
So I think I've Barrenstein Baird myself.
Faces of Death was a movie.
I think I'm thinking of Rotten.
You're thinking of Rotten.
Faces of Death was a video series.
That's right.
One day I rented a house out in Dewey Beach, Delaware.
Went out there with my friends
and they had an entire VHS collection
of all the faces of death.
That's right, that's right.
It was yes, okay.
Yeah, Dewey Beach is a fucked up place.
All right, Billy, or who's back?
My who's back was the Klitschko brothers,
but I think I'm gonna bring back
the spreadsheet from March Madness.
Oh, good.
Look, I know this is ridiculous.
Here's how I bet every team
it only lost 25 cents.
I'm thinking, I'm gonna take all the favorites
from the first round and bet all of them
to win the whole thing as a future
and then bet the money line on all of the underdogs
so that the money lines pays for all the future bets.
Okay, but what if they lose?
Not like it, let Billy cook.
This makes sense.
But then if they lose, then in the next round
bet the future on those teams.
Can I ask you a question though?
Yeah.
Not about the spreadsheet,
but have you thought about just gambling responsibly?
But like, I've been doing one pick a day.
It's fun because you're like, this is my one game.
I feel strongly about this.
I like to bet on this game,
not betting on a game being like, well, if they win,
I can also win this one and that one
because you're never gambling.
Well, I bet.
You're just, you found a way to just make hedging.
Lifestyle.
It's arbitrage.
Yeah, he's just hedging constantly.
I have been following college basketball as closely
as some guys so I really don't have.
You think that I fall a soccer when I bet on it?
You don't actually follow them.
No, I mean you can't.
You guys wanna do a quick talking soccer?
Yeah, sure.
Yeah, what's up?
Something happened.
Oh yeah, the caribou cup, the goalie came out
and Bajio didn't select the fifth deck.
What does that mean?
Let's hit it really high over.
Roberto Bajio.
Yeah, you don't have to be an expert.
I mean, you could be an expert,
but even if you're an expert, I don't think you'll win.
I just feel like this way, I feel like I have control.
You know, I should have stopped you.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Okay, so I was with you until you got to the second round
and then in the second round,
you then bet futures on any underdog that wins.
You do the same thing, yeah.
That isn't already factored into your,
so if anyone, if any of the underdogs win,
then you bet a future on that.
This sounds like what's gonna happen is
you're eventually gonna have one of your futures hit
and you're gonna make back like 15%
of everything that you've lost.
Right, yeah, so you will.
Like Gonzaga's gonna win it all.
No, or Kentucky's gonna win it all
and you're gonna get them at six to one
and you're gonna win back.
But I'll do the math with the spreadsheet
and figure out how to allocate the money
so that it all counts as allocations.
And if I can figure out the situation
where I always make money,
then I'm gonna ask for a loan.
Okay, I like it.
And I'll give you that loan.
Perfect.
How much money?
I don't think that that exists, though.
Billy, you can't figure out a way.
What's your, like, there's no way you can tell.
Don't, as you can.
What's the optimal bankroll, Billy?
Tell me.
Don't let them do this long process.
The thing is, I know it doesn't exist,
but it's like chasing big foot.
Once I find the system.
Everything didn't exist until someone figured it out.
Right.
Why don't you just try to find this?
Now we get like millions of dollars,
I think we need millions of dollars.
I'm gonna put it all into the spreadsheet.
You're already saying millions of dollars.
Steve Jobs created it.
Don't you think someone else would have done this?
Right, but no, everyone thinks it's impossible.
They're not as smart as Billy.
Exactly.
You're right, you're right.
Possible is nothing.
But again, why wouldn't you just put in all your energy
into like one game and having an opinion about one game?
Because that's what everyone does.
If you go one and oh, you can just walk away
from the entire tournament.
Billy wants to break Vegas.
How about that?
I'm trying to break Vegas.
Billy breaks Vegas.
I believe in you, Billy.
Good luck.
You just tell me how much you need in a loan.
The only difference between a genius,
and what's that quote I once said?
I forgot about that.
The only difference between a genius and Billy
is the genius doesn't forget the quote.
Could be the quote.
No, I like that quote though.
The only difference between being a genius
and what's the rest of that quote that I said one time?
Dash Billy football.
It's a great quote.
I want you to do it, Billy.
We'll get an update on it.
We'll figure it out.
The only difference between genius and insanity
is the genius has limits.
That's not a good quote for you.
No, it's like the only difference between the...
So you're insane.
You're saying you're insane.
No, yeah.
It's no limit to Billy's insanity,
which makes him a genius.
It's gonna be fun.
Yeah, I look forward to it.
You're gonna break Vegas.
I'm gonna ride with Billy.
I said I bankroll, you didn't even have to...
I don't even have to see the number.
You don't have to give me the pitch deck.
You just have to be like, yo, I got away.
I will bankroll.
Sweet.
We got a brand it though.
We gotta give it like Billy's...
Billy budget betting.
Billy's budget betting.
No, you need a triple B.
I got a couple YouTube videos there.
You got a triple B bitch?
Oh, yeah.
Triple B.
You big back bitch?
Or it could be a big baller.
It could be a big baller.
Big baller Bill.
Or it could be the better business bureau.
Big ballers make big bets.
Yeah, they don't make...
I'm gonna hedge and hopefully win 15...
No, I'm not gonna...
I'm bankrolling.
I'm gonna be...
Will you let me be devil's advocate
when you show me the final plan?
Yes.
Okay, great.
That's all I want.
One final...
If you gave me a thousand dollars, big hat,
then I said I can give you back a thousand and two dollars.
Yeah, no, that's what I'm gonna do.
I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars, Billy.
You're gonna have to put it out in there.
I mean, that's 2% return.
That's what I'm saying.
That's great return.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
No, it's not.
Did you say a hundred?
He said a thousand dollars.
Oh, he said a thousand dollars.
A thousand and two.
Okay, my bad.
It's still a profit.
It's point...
You know what?
That's on them for not betting enough
to make enough money in the profit.
If you only put that a thousand,
he can only get you $10 back.
I actually don't think he would keep up with inflation
if I gave you that thousand dollars on March 1st
and you gave me back a thousand and two, April 15th.
We gotta give it a good label though,
like Billy's Quantum Computing.
I'm bankrolling you.
I don't need anything more.
I don't believe it,
but I believe it enough to bankroll you.
It's like an impossible word problem
that you're never gonna figure out,
but it's a fun exercise.
No, no, see, I don't like this,
because I'm bankrolling you.
And you just told me that it's not gonna work.
Okay, here's what we call it.
Billy's Banned in Vegas betting formula.
It's Banned in Vegas.
You just say that it's not legal.
Casinos hate him.
Banned everywhere.
Yeah, casinos hate this guy.
Can't go anywhere.
Try not to come.
Tons of locals in your five mile radius.
All right, Jake, you're who's back.
My who's back is respecting Steph Curry.
I know we try to come up with these quarterly reminders,
but there was a viral video today.
Saw it, yeah.
His warm ups, yeah, no defenders, they did lose.
He was just casually singing threes from the logo.
He's so good.
What he did in that exercise,
he started with like a sky high finger roll,
and then he would take two steps back,
hit shots until he got to half court,
then two shots in,
and end with another sky high finger roll.
It's crazy.
I don't think he hit the rim a single time.
It's gotta be so much fun.
Like think about going on a basketball court.
It's been like, whatever I shoot, it's going in.
That would be so much fun.
You think you'd ever get bored though?
No, he just, no, definitely not.
I think I'd get bored.
That's why I'm not an NBA player.
No, it would be so much fun.
Every game would be so much fun.
Like what cool shit am I gonna do this time?
Also, John Moran's 360 layup.
I was a full 360.
I don't know, against the Bulls was,
he looked like he was in the matrix.
He was mind bending.
You want to fix the dunk contest?
Make it a layup contest.
Holy fuck, that was insane.
All right, let's get to Coach Prime.
Dion Sanders will do a little MLB lockout on the other side.
Maybe also talk about who's going to be announcing
what games next year.
And also the Billy's, what, death on the deathbed.
Second on the deathbed.
Hand up.
I botched the question to Dion Sanders.
And in retrospect, I'm like, why did I not know that?
I asked him if he ever raced against Randy Moss at Florida
State because Randy Moss went to Florida State
for like, I don't know, a month or so.
And I thought that it was during the end,
but the bottom line is I'm going to throw
Koli under the bus because he told me to ask that question.
Yeah, afterwards I actually went up to you.
I was like, was that a bit that I didn't understand?
No, Koli was like, you should ask him this question.
I was like, good call, Koli.
Turns out Koli's trying to get me fired.
Yeah.
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Now here is Coach Dion Sanders.
Woo.
OK, we now welcome on one of our favorite guests.
He is recurring, I don't know, 15 times now.
Yeah, it's been a few times now.
And plus, it's Black History Month, so you guys needed me.
Yes, that is the voice, the iconic voice of Dion Sanders.
It will it be when we run on Monday?
Yes, last day.
Oh, it's last day.
OK, we're having a lot to close out in the last few months.
We've got a short month, so you've got to get me in.
It's a buzzer beater.
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Right, there you go.
Yeah, it is Coach Prime, Dion Sanders.
Coach Prime fall season is out now, Tuesdays and Thursdays.
You can watch live on YouTube on the Barstool Sports Channel.
I watch both episodes.
I love the show.
I do have to talk to you, though, about, let's start here.
You were wearing a hat on episode two.
It matched.
It was basically, I don't know if you saw the picture, PFT.
It was.
PFT can't say anything right now.
Why is that?
Expand on that thought.
I can't.
He said, I'm wearing a hat.
Yeah.
And when he said that, my eyes went over to your hat.
Yeah.
And that's it.
I am wearing a hat.
It looks like a Newsy's slash Peaky Blinders slash Paperboy.
I like that.
You're I like that too.
Yeah, you again, you're wearing a ridiculous hat.
So you have to defend him.
It's a ridiculous hack.
Actually, this is the anti-cancer hat in the NFL.
So are you pro cancer?
No, I'm not.
OK.
I'm anti.
But yeah, the hat was old school swag was what you called it?
Old school swag.
OK.
It was nice.
I love the show, though.
If you don't watch it, it is very, very good.
Beers is unbelievable.
I mean, the doubleness in him is unbelievable.
You would not think.
And oftentimes, Sam, we call him Sam Malone, my trusty right
hand man, he text me a picture of Dana chugging beers
and he always allude to, this is your producer.
Yes.
Yeah, that's I actually said it last night,
like watching the show and being like, wow,
this is an incredible documentary inside look
into what you guys are building and knowing
that the guy behind all of it is the beer guy.
It should win an Academy Award.
No, honestly, honestly, he's got to win something.
It's crazy.
It is.
It's crazy that Dana has the ability to flip a switch where
he's, oh my god.
He's able to produce some decent content sometimes.
He's got a good eye for things.
But then you know the second that he hits the power button
on that camera, he's just like grabbing the nearest beer
and dumping it down his shirt.
And that's like, that's what he does.
He's a different guy in Jackson.
He's two different men.
What's he like down there?
Is he less snakeish?
He's not snakeish.
He's really locked in.
He's focused.
He's a leader of his bar stools men and men and women.
Do you think the locker room has accepted Dana?
Oh, they love him.
Now, he's a hit.
In terms of Dana, like you don't let him drink down there,
right?
Well, I can't control this grown man.
But me and Mama Beers have joined together.
To try to get him to curb it?
Yeah, to do right.
So if you and Mama Beers are like the angel on his shoulder,
there's got to be a devil.
Who's the devil?
Bar stools.
Yeah, I think it's Dana himself.
It's just like a smaller version of Dana.
It's like, no drink.
Do the beer tweet, Dana.
Like, maybe me?
Dana.
Oh, Dana.
Go ahead, buddy.
Come on.
Don't go for it.
Don't flip.
Don't jump.
Don't jump.
He's got to.
It's our show.
Come on, Dana.
Do it, Dana.
Do the beer, Dana.
I'm here.
You're in office, right?
I'm right here.
Dana, I'm right here.
Dana, I'm right here.
Dana, she's your producer for all seasons.
You got to be kidding me.
It was that easy.
It's 11 AM.
Who is this guy?
Finish it.
It's in the morning time.
Oh, my god.
I've never seen this live.
Oh, that's your first experience watching beer.
Oh, no.
Is it bottomless over here?
No, no.
Is it bottomless?
Come on, Dana.
Come on, Dana.
No, you can't do it.
Just one more.
You can't do it.
Just one more.
Dana, come on.
Who is this guy, man?
It's 11 o'clock in the morning.
Who is this man?
Oh, man.
Man, I got a comb on my beard.
Oh, my god.
Is it that easy to get him back?
Yeah, there's no real rhyme or reason to it.
If you just say the word beer to me,
I guess I got a beer.
No, no!
Oh, no.
Another one.
You're coming in, no, bitch.
Just one more.
Oh, my god.
Come on, man.
There's a lot to do today.
One more beer.
There's no way to know.
There's no way to know.
One more beer.
The show in the audience is not about me.
I'm cold.
Come on, Dana.
One more beer.
You got this.
It's a sec.
I'm cold.
I'm dark.
I'm not doing everything.
I'm not doing it.
All right.
Another one in my back pocket.
You got to be kidding me.
One more beer.
I've never seen him this way.
Dude, Dana...
To not address him until the end of the show, but it's...
His presence just...
You just wanted to drug a beer.
Well, he's like...
He's a very specific type of pet that has one use.
It's like, if your dog would only, you know, let you give a belly rub.
Dana's one thing is, if I see beer, I chug beer.
I've never seen this guy.
Chug that last one.
Come on.
He's an awesome guy.
mama...
mama beers...
He's drinking again.
He's drinking again.
No, I'm sitting in here...
doing a podcast.
Podcast and I've never seen this Dana beers in my life. I had to call you
Dan is just holding up a beer and throwing it over to him and he's downing it like I've never seen this guy
That's a great sound crispy boy. Oh
My god, now, do you know that Dana actually put a beer up his butt once?
Oh, it's getting bad look
We will I'll call you back mama beers
Okay
Those guys are not good for you. They're not good for your son. I'll talk to you later. My
Did you put the like the funnel up your butt?
Dana it was a funnel
Important things did you go wait wait? No, no, did you go to home depot and like buy a new funnel and take it home?
Knowing that you were gonna put up hold on hold on. Hold on. He put a funnel
In his butt drunk of beer. Yep. Coach. Did you ever use that?
That's your score zacy
That's your Spielberg. That's him right there
That's your Spielberg. What did you do with the funnel afterwards?
Coach prime. This is not who you think it is. All right. Oh my god. Oh, no, it is. It's Dana beers
Not Dana B. He holds the beer up. Then just flipped it over
It was that easy
Oh my god
All right, we'll let Dana cool first Sam. You've been right. You can sip it and we'll let you cool, but it is
Uh, a great documentary. I have some questions though about it. Please you do something as genius is when you hit a point
And you I could see it in your eyes where you like, oh, that was good
What I just said and you repeat it. Yeah, because then it like really hits it
Hits at home. So yeah, your speeches are always some of those kids are
Some of them are like hanging on everywhere. You can see it in the eyes. Some of them are like
Shut up. Let's let's go. I didn't play right. We ready to go play him
Shallows one want my son is one of those guys. Do you care? He's probably heard it so much
No, he's not yet heard it. He just want to go play
He's just always going to do something crazy. There's that arc though. You bring it up to like a high bubble
And then you just crash that it's like if it's a pot that you're boiling water in
It gets up starts to boil boil and you just smash it knocking on the floor and then everybody goes nuts
I'm just ready for them. I just want to provoke thought and get them to a point where I got them
Mentally and then they could go out there and exude the physicality of it
Who gave the best speeches to you when you were in the nfl or college? I didn't have big speech givers
Really? No, we didn't have Bobby Bowden was not a speech. No, he just laid out a few points that you had to go do and you
You had to pull off in the game and you're going to win if you did those several things
But no, I'd never played for great
Guys that really relied on speeches. Yeah when you were back at florida state
Were you teammates with randy moss for like a like a week? No, no, he was ap
That means afterprime. Okay. It was after prime. I because I was curious if you ever had a chance to race him in your prime
Because you said
You said you're younger than you. Yes. Yeah, but I thought that there was like a short period of time that maybe you were around him
Do you think
Your prime versus prime heads up who wins in a race?
Uh, I'm never gonna say I'm gonna lose a race. One of the guys that probably would have presented the biggest challenge
Probably would have been daryl green. Yeah
Yeah, I just went to another day too, man
And he probably would have been one that presented the most challenge in in the primes
You think it was like you and him two fastest players in the league for a while? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not just see it's like randy
To his credit rent for randy is arguably the best that ever played a position
But randy was fast on the field. It's a lot of fast guys that are not fast on the field
Like you can't see them play with their speed
Daryl green played with it. Yeah, he played with it and a few guys
Play with it, you know, a lot of guys running there before at the combine, but they don't play with it
Yeah, and then it's it's always fun to see like I love watching all the compilations of like defenders chasing down
Speedsters in the open field and daryl green used to do stuff like that. Is there any guy that you you ever chased down?
You hit him and he was like, oh, that's embarrassing. I just
No, they don't say that but you you go get them and they know
They know it's over their their their reputation is done. Um, one of one of my favorite parts about this, uh
You know fall season and and coach prime is like you can see the change that's happening
At jackson state and I I'm gonna I'm gonna you're a humble guy. I'm not really
but
I am gonna say like it's incredible to watch it even the little things like the it's a big thing
But the field changing the field the field you guys practice on in the first
Year was garbage. Yeah, it was true garbage
Understatement when you had to take a bus 15 minutes away to go practice at a high school field
And you're a college. Yeah, it was good. The pot hose wasn't even the worst thing
It was a big fall-off on the side of the field that if someone ran a fade
And ran off the side of field they they're gonna you go dislocate your leg or something's going and they said it actually happened
That's crazy. They said then he had uh, like the what is the things that the water go in on the side of the field
The gutters or something. It was horrible. And so you but now you have a new synthetic beautiful
Thanks to walmart. Okay. So that was walmart. So you're and then what's the next thing you're gonna upgrade because I
We got a new locker room almost done. I love it. I love seeing it because you can see
Um, you know a lot of times you watch college football and a lot of the coaches will say well
It's about building men and all this stuff. It's like, okay. That's kind of lip service
You know, I mean like alabama's they're trying to win national titles
But you're doing things day to day that we need where you watch you were watching
You know like press conferences with one of your players being like look how many times he says the word man
Or look how many times he um, he was an eye guy. I I I I like dude. Come on, man
Come on and and those type of little things. So so locker room. What else is what's next after that? Uh, well, we
First of all, we had to
Rehaul of equipment under armor came in didn't uniform. So we have several uniforms. There are three more coming this year
We get on the phone personally cut deals with under armor and our under armor
Zenith as well as uh, right now for the helmets two different helmet companies
The equipment is so many things NFL did a great job of helping us with some of the equipment in the field equipment
Because you take those tackling damage and sleds you take all this stuff for granted
We got a joining field that now
It's adjacent to the turf field. It's a grass field that we could practice
Two groups simultaneously and get special teams done at the same time. The offensive defense is going
There's so many little things like that cafeteria
Uh, trying to build a whole inclusive cafeteria right now so that we don't have to go across campus and the kids eat right there
Self-encompassing with ourselves instead of sharing it with another sport or whatever
All those are huge things. I saw that you're also playing hardball with with some of the scheduling stuff that you have going on
Yeah, because you it actually became apparent to you and and there's no way that
Yeah, it's a hustle exactly people don't realize that until like, you know, you're you're presence there has uh,
You know aside from the stuff that has happened on the field
But the attention that you attract just by being you there
I think has educated a lot of people as to how a lot of these things negatively affect the children
That are the kids that go to school there. So like the scheduling thing you're losing money on some of these trips, right money and uh
tremendously like
This particular classic that you're talking about first of all, why would two
Colleges need a promoter
You're two colleges and you have ad's. Why would you need a promoter? That's number one
Secondly, I think the fee was like over 30 years six million dollars like that's peanuts
So by the time you take several buses seven buses for real for the band four buses for the players a couple for the
People of assistance or whatever
Hotel accommodations food you're out of that
You're that 180 200 ground you're out of that
So you didn't make nothing you so you really came up down a blank trip
And we got to stop that foolish is the first thing we need to take care of
As hbc uses the business aspect of everything and that's something that we're changing right now
We're taking care of business. Do you do you think that the um your school and all the schools you play against?
Are they starting to come around to like because I know that when you showed up
It's like hey, we're changing things and maybe people didn't people don't love change right away. Oh my god now you own it
Yeah, how you understand it like they have a way of doing it
So you're the most loved by this section of people
But you're the most hated by this section of people because when you start changing things you expect jobs right and security and stability
And the hustle that's been going on for years. So I have people
Become more like hey look what coach prime is doing here is like this is good
Yeah, good things people on the outside and some people on the inside coaches are like are calling like amen
Thank you for saying that because we dealing with the same thing, but we can't say it right so that's a that's a positive
Yeah, I mean it is you're in a unique situation where
You know you you do have the power to call
You know get a deal where you can get a new field and and say about talk about all these things knowing
That you're good the biggest power is having stability that you don't need it
Right because now you could say what needs to be said and you're not afraid of losing the job because
All right
I'm good, right. You don't have to worry about I'm good try to smooth anything over. Yeah, right
You're not you gotta make any friends. I just want to work for the kids and do was right by the kids like like
You guys heard it during the pandemic. You heard all the fortune 500
Businesses say we're doing this for hbcu. Should we doing that right?
What did the money go right where did the change I I hadn't seen any change went through like three middlemen
So no, no, I want to know where where did it go? I'm hearing all these endowments to all these hbcu's
Where did it go? Right?
Somebody raised their hand and say okay, we did get the check and this is what we did
I haven't heard that yet right and you and you are doing things that you can see day to day tangibly
Right every day right so you're a smart guy. You've always got a plan and we think but first of all
We think bar stools as well because now you could actually see the change right if not for that you can see it
You're you're you're always a smart guy. You've always had like you
Whenever I see you operate. I'm like that's the guy that's thinking like three steps ahead
You have an ultimate goal that you want to get to what is that?
Well, I want to see these kids have equality man. I want to see them have opportunity
Just like something simple as having you a pro day a pro day is something simple to you
But it's not simple to hbcu's. It's not simple to have a pro day and scouts actually come to see what you got
So I even took it a step farther. I said, you know what? Let's just have I I want
Grambling southern those schools are in Louisiana. They even come to our pro day
So the NFL said no, they can't come to your pro day because they have to stay in state
I say so they have to go to LSU's pro day
And when they get ready to run the hundreds or forties or whatever they do the drills
Nobody's going to look up at them because they're waiting for the LSU guys
So that's what you're putting our kids through because that's how it's been for life
So we're having several schools in mississippi come to our pro day
But i'm fighting for other hbcu's to come to one particular pro day
So you see yourself sticking around in the hbcu environment for a long time
I see myself making change
Immediately where I am today. I don't look to tomorrow, man. I got him. I'm gonna miss the day if I look to tomorrow
Yeah, the um the the pro day stuff and like having scouts come to your
To your camp and to your practices
I it's like the beauty of sports when I when I'm watching you and how you coach
Because you know sports are not the most important thing in life, but
You said it yourself like letting these kids feel what it feels like to win and to have success
Can build them forever forever and it's just like that's the those are the building blocks because like having a day where
It's like oh, I did this I accomplished this now
You know how to do something else and it's truly and these guys are smart to tough the faster discipline
It may come a day that that you guys or Erica may say you know what I see the guys you're producing from your program
Two employees they can start at 75 grand a piece or whatever give me two that you'd really trust
I
Like that right I want that
I want these kids to go into the workforce and make a difference man because 95 percent of them are not going pro
That's for every program 95 percent of the kids play for you are not going pro
Do you have how many pros do you have on your roster though right now?
I know that's a terrible question
That just came out or on the roster that are like you you could say you don't have to say names
But you're like these off the top of your head how many kids you think can play in the nfl that play for me right now
Yes, 15. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. That's gotta be 15. Was it zero when you got there when I got there was none
Yeah, that's crazy. None. I mean we we've had the top two classes in fcs the last two years
um
Recruiting classes and we bring in all these
Let me tell you something the portal now man. It's it's free agency. Yeah
I feel bad for high school kids because we're only taking like four to five high school kids this year and they're getting the
They're getting a short end of the stick. Yeah, the ncaa is going to have to come in and say
We got to increase the scholarship for high school kids because why would you take the chance when you already have
Plethora of kids that's already been to college made the adjustment and you know what's wrong with them
Or you know what's right with them and you'd rather go there instead of risk at a high school kid
Yeah, 22 year old versus 18 year olds a very big difference very big difference
Yeah, coaches are getting fired in a couple years
So you're trying to get guys that ready to help you now right instead of no one's red shirts anymore
Yeah, you've said that uh
If a major program wants to lose recruit to you
Let that recruit go to an h bcu homecoming, right? It's crazy man. So, um, we're white guys
Yeah, we probably I'm going to guess that there are a couple white guys that are also listening to the show
But those guys right there are white, right?
Yep, yeah beers and we got it. We got a few years Egyptian shout out a few whiteies in here
Can you explain to us?
What is different about the culture man about those homecoming weekends the pageantry
the culture
They don't just come from the game
They come for the moment. It's like a dern award show. That's the closest thing that I could appropriate it to right like a
Uh, not just a bt awards like american music awards like a grammy's
That's what a hbcu homecoming is and then you happen to have two events happening on the same day
Which is the game in the halftime performances by the bands
It's unbelievable, man
But the party it's like a darn bowl like the bow guy game that you guys are going to do in arizona
It's like a party for the whole week. It's a week long festivities. I never experienced that at florida state
I didn't even you didn't even give a darn about homecoming. It's just another game
You gotta you you you recruit a garbage opponent so you can beat the brakes off of him and that's what it is
It's totally different, man
I mean, what's the strip called down the center of jackson?
They just call it the set or whatever the strip
that
Down the whole center of jackson's school date is wasted right? Yeah, his eyes are just completely
You finish your third beer
Did you finish your third beer? I looked at him and I saw his soul. Yeah
Like nobody home dude. Nobody was there. I looked at him so I saw
I don't think dana even realized that you were talking to him
You guys were just staring at me in the eyes of dana was like lost in space. You know what? I think I think I got
No one more
No, I got one more
All right, listen, that will help you. I'll put you up the the hbcu homecoming week is do sound like a lot of fun
It's not no, it is crazy. But I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know myself
I drove my golf cart through there checking on my kids checking on not my sons
But checking on my football players because I didn't want them to get caught up in the mayhem
Man, it was ridiculous. Thousands of people just lined the whole school corridor and just it's unbelievable
It's crazy, man. It's
I kind of want to go now. Then we got 60,000 of the game. Yeah. Yeah, didn't top it off. Are you looking for a kicker?
Yeah
Maybe bring me down on that. No, no, we signed a four star kicker. Oh, we did
I seem like you signed him in the last four seconds. No
When you say you look for a kicker, you always use a kicker punter
But a kicker I signed the guy that's pretty darn good. Okay. He's really good
Can you can you explain how the travis hunter who if you if you don't fall college football?
He was the number one recruit in the nation signed with jackson state
uh
everyone
Then accused barstool of paying for which is not true. You guys gave him two million, right? Yeah, three and i am i
I gave him the extra million on top
My close a deal my counter to that is if barstool was handing out money
Kale williams would be a wisconsin badger because i and michigan would have awesome recruits
Oh my god, it would be insane. I think that would probably happen first
So how did you get how did you get the number one like how did that process go because he came to a homecoming?
That's it. No that that that was 70 percent of it. Really? We just couldn't mess up the other 30, right?
That was 70 percent. He was committed to your own modern. Yeah, people were very upset. I don't why I don't care very upset
They don't own the kid. They probably should have hired you if they wanted. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, but but how like what was the pitch?
It wasn't a pitch like we don't pitch kids
We just really you know what guys you're gonna have an opportunity to come here and get education and place them during good football
And have a good time and we're gonna teach you
Travis mother just texts me about I wanted you to sit down and talk to him about this this nothing bad
Because he's a great kid. You're talking about working ethic and all that unbelievable doing great in school
He's already on campus and I see I promise you mama
You sent me a boy. You're gonna get back a man in three years
Before he goes pro and that's that's probably the only promise that we have. Yeah
We don't promise you you're gonna get a certain number like the number thing
Travis was going to wear one. I think he wanted one didn't he wanted this high school number
So he did it with the other kid that was wearing 12. They did that. We don't handle all that
I don't do it during what number you are
And he's just a good kid. He didn't have to be promised nothing. You know, we didn't have to try to buy me
We don't have any money to buy him first of all
but the kid just
Has an insatiable appetite to play football
And he can do it like what I've seen thus far
The kids are stud, man
His work ethic he's working out and putting on weight getting bigger and stronger faster
But even in the mat drills on Tuesdays Thursdays to do this the first one in the line
I mean ready to go getting on the the older kids like come on get up on the line get your hands off your knees
He's dead. I had him in the office the other day
I said, why did you go to the left corner because I saw you at left corner instead of right?
What I just want to know your thought process. He said coach, I don't give it there where you put me
I'm gonna cover and matter of fact, just let me play man. I'm good. Give me the best
Opposing teams the best player. That's the way he thinks already
And it's going to have a big impact because he's gonna go to the nfl
And then every day every time he's on a prime time game. He's gonna say jackson state
And it's like everything snowballs from there. So it's it's it's monumental. I know that when it happened that day
Was like it rocked the
World I felt really good about it, but I didn't want to go all in right
But I said it's it's pretty good chance. We're gonna have a we're gonna shock the world
Yeah, and you did and we shocked the world you did we changed the whole recruiting game now
I'm happy with all hbcu's getting three and four stars not necessarily five stars
But we got to change the business practices on campuses
We got to change the whole thought process of how we function as a business for hbcu's now to keep those kids
You saw some of the bigger schools and uh the fan bases and a couple coaches like kind of indirectly
Seeming frustrated with the fact that you took one of the best players to to go to your school
I got something. I want to challenge them. Uh-huh. Can I do that? Absolutely. Okay. Tell me this now
You got the nl deals and we all know about the nl name image and likeness now
nl is is is like an endorsement
deal
I'm seeing kids that the colleges proclaim
They have a million dollars worth endorsements or half a million dollars
Tell me what have you seen them endorse?
Mm-hmm
Did you I know um
Hinden hunker was doing an advertisement for apartment complex, but it was like not much money at all
Yeah, a lot of raisin canes what i'm saying like what have you seen?
Yeah, that's about it quantified it now see when you see our kids
Or or my son
And they say you have an endorsement for beats or tarmac you see it
You see the tangible endorsements
But how can you get a million dollars worth endorsements for a kid at these power fives and nobody sees nothing they're on
Yeah, so is that really endorsements or there's some kick that it's just a kick down money being paid from an age from not an age
And i'm sorry from a booster. Yeah, so we don't have boosters like that because you can say like i'm paying this person to do
Advertisements for my car dealership, but we haven't seen and then you just never produced the commercial
We've never seen it at least if you say you're gonna do something
We got to at least see it the nca should hold people accountable
If they say they got a deal and they making this show it
So so you got a little bit of pushback from some of these other power five coaches. What about
From within the hbcu community. No, was it like universal support or were there?
No universal that was like jealous that you got no universal support because they feel like now see now what hbcu's are doing
Once upon a time they didn't feel like they could get that kid
So they never offered a kid. They never offered me coming out of high school
They never offered some of the guys coming out. They never thought they could get it
Now they're throwing out offers to people and trying to get them on camp. They believe now that they got a shot
That's the difference. It takes some guts too for travis hunter and kevin colman and those guys
They're kind of like leading what what feels like it could be a major
See change in college football. They're kind of the ones that are saying, you know what we're going to be the first to do it
We're going to go out on our own and try to start something new
Could you get the sense from I know you talked about travis a little bit
But like with kevin could you get the sense that like these are guys that are willing to kind of
Go out and start something that nobody else has really done before that's what they've done and that's the kind of players that they are
Everybody don't have that dna
Everybody don't have that and you got to be willing to say, you know what this is where I come from
But I know this is where i'm going so in between time i'm going to do this because I know is inevitable that I get here
Anyway, you're doing a pretty good job bringing people in to speak to the kids. You brought in one of my heroes actually
britney renner
I we don't do it anymore. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, you don't do it
Bonky. I know I'm just a massive fan of her work. I could get on. Yeah, I could get on your show
Dft would love how did how did you get in touch with her?
She was a dear friend of my son my oldest son jr. How dear
Not that dear. Okay
Brittany is one of the smartest young women that you ever want to sit down and have a conversation with
Matter of fact, i'm trying to get her her show here. Oh, she needs to be on bars. Okay. She needs to let her go
Excuse me. Did she need a co-host? I'm not asking for me. Obviously you said host, right?
I thought it was a co-host
We'll get her a co-host
Real slow
What uh, people get you had backlash for that too. I don't know why because i'm just trying to prepare my kids for the world
I I all this stuff you're doing. I love it because it really is
It's who we are it's breaking down things that like like going back to to episode two that I watched last night
Where you went through interviews and you showed like hey this guy stutters a little this guy doesn't say this guy says like or
Man, you have to get that out of your like your repertoire. Yeah
That kind of stuff. I know like you don't see coaches do it. No, you don't you don't they don't give a darn about it
But I care and this is the way these kids are going to have sustainability
And this is the way these kids are going to be provoke change in their communities and in their families
We we got to be able to step outside the box man and make things happen
Brittany
If I would have had that conversation that Brittany gave our kids
In college
I'll have at least 20 to 30 million
More in my pocket
From the bull junk that I've dealt with in the divorces and all that foolishness in my life
I would have known that's gang right that's gang like oh my god that she'd break it down
I mean the best line that she had the whole show was when she said uh
And when I look at my dms, I have more checks than nikes
Yeah
Oh my god, that was so cold. I was like Brittany that is brilliant, baby
Brittany that is good. She's very good at what she does. No, she's very smart though. She's very smart
Like you just looking at the external like to sit down and talk to her
She she's a step ahead of the game man, and it's a game out there now
It's not just I'm gonna go here with my friend and meet tom at the bar. No, no, no, man
She already understand what tom likes to drink what he's gonna wear what he's gonna have on what time he's gonna get there
She already got a game playing together and she's getting help from her girlfriends. Yeah
Um, I want you to finish this one for me. You have this saying kids that play on sunday
You're gonna remember on monday cash their checks on tuesday
What happens on wednesday and thursday and friday and saturday they work. Okay. They work
I was just waiting for you to finish because whenever you start with a
Saying it could go on forever and that's the best part
Because you said it you're like yeah kids would play on sunday, and then you had to beat
And you remember my monday and then you had another beat like cash their checks on tuesday
I was just waiting for the rest of the week. There's so many things that I say and it just it's spontaneous. They know it
It's spontaneous like like I'm like turn on the camera, baby. I'm rolling. Let's go. Let's do it
The don't don't make a monument out of a moment. That's my favorite one. That's it. That's the god god honest truth
These kids man is so much
We could do 10 shows with the content that we have
But we had to break it down to you know several episodes. It should be Dana's drunk. So he can't he can't edit definitely right now
He didn't know where he is right now. He thinks he's on martyrs
Trick that last beer Dana when Dana's eyes glaze over it's don't do it. It's just the best look ever
Don't do it be your treat. No. No, I did actually want to have Dana on to give him a true performance review
Yeah, so what is he like day to day? Does he have he has full access to everything? He has clearance
He walks around and he has a team everywhere. Yeah, he has people underneath him
Yes, and I mean at night and day every
And what do you think like is he doing a good job or is he he's doing a great job first?
It was a bonding kind of stage right
That he had to know, you know kind of how I move how what I like what I don't like and and he got the rhythm real quick
I mean, he's a quick learn. He's an athlete for my athlete. So he got it really quick
12 and 10 what's the matters you've ever been at Dana? I've never been mad at that's that that can't be
Yes, but not beers. Oh, no Dana. What's the matters that dion's ever been at? He's never yelled at me. It's it's everybody else has gotten it
But yeah, like sometimes I'll just post something too soon or just I don't know not have the best video editor or something
But he's never yelled at me. Yeah, huh?
What do you think he could improve on yes?
Yeah, how about this like what's an opportunity he has for improvement?
The only thing he could improve on and it's not dealing with anything with the doc is the other day-to-day right the music selection
Oh, I'm not good at that. He's not wait. Did you let him pick?
That's actually on you if you did that
That'd be like your your players calling their own plays
Right and then but being like oh, it's but if it's a video where I'm really talking and informing and instructing and educating
He knows I like that build up that yeah
Crescendo. Yeah, what we call it what we call it. What you drunk now? He don't know
He's so hammered. Yeah, he's drunk. He's just going back out. I got a lot to do today. Yeah, hopefully not
Jimmy Fallon to go on. Yeah
He'll probably appreciate the beer. Yeah, he'll appreciate the beer for sure
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At what episode five four in this season, uh, you have obviously a health scare. Yeah five
I was
Like in real time because we do the pro football football show together every week
There was a moment where I was like
Because everyone was being a little, you know, like hey deal. It's not doing like secret ever. Yeah
We've never been together and kept a secret. It was crazy. So what
What like can you tell people to watch because it really was like touch and go for a minute
I'll tell you what I did. I did and uh, he did a great job
I said, look man, I don't want to gross people out
but I want
Three to five seconds show them what happened in three to five seconds
And pull back blur it after that
And then when my kids see it for the first time the same thing let them see it three to five seconds because my kids
They couldn't believe it. But the first time I looked down
The bed and saw what transpired. I had I had nine total surgeries on his foot. Yeah on everything on on on
Oh on your ankle. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's on both sides. Holy shit. Yeah, so it had it hadn't been
It hadn't been easy. Yeah, holy shit. When did you when did you first start like noticing a problem with that?
um
It was always a problem with my toe and
From from football. So this was my fourth toe surgery and it just didn't heal. So I'm sitting up there and I'm like, Danny
and
Our trainer she said
We needed to go get this checked. I said, what do you mean? She said your big toe and your second toe is black
We got to go to the hospital now. I said, let's practice. We'll go afterwards. We cool
And that's when it all started when we got to the hospital
And and doctor started to look around at each other and you're like, oh my goodness. Something's going on
That's a scary look when they don't say anything directly to you and they just immediately start talking to each other
And I was there for a month after that and it was it was um
You you almost made us feel bad because Dave and I gave you a bunch of shit and then you and it got like way worse
And everyone's like, yeah, it's not good right now
Because you got you you know, something happened you went you came back to work
We gave you shit for missing like a day and then it was like a surgery and I came right back
I know and then we didn't and then we didn't see you for like a month and it was like, oh
Shit, I probably should have said that because it was a threat to my life. Yeah, I know it was life threatening
And this is all never been seen. It's gonna be on episode five still to this day. People don't know right
I think a lot of people don't know my team knew because when I first came back
I dressed the team and it was a did we show that?
Yes, it's
Waterfalls coach. That was that was false. Yeah, that that's gonna be a tear jerker
I don't know what waterfalls. I didn't use profanity, but I use other words. So did we we did we take care of that?
There was no profanity. I know but there's other words that is no. Yeah, you're all profaned. It's
I took care of it. I'm not sure. I'm not even sure how
How to think about that. There's words that is not profanity, but they're profane to people
Can can dana give me an example of one of those words
Uh, um, do you know how to get penis surgery?
No, I'm not talking. Okay. Okay. He's drunk
But yeah, it was very uh, it was crazy. It was I remember exactly when someone was like, hey, this isn't
This isn't normal. Yeah, it was like, oh fuck. It was it was it was bad
It was really bad. It got really really bad lost a lot of blood as well
Got really really bad and then I was on so many meds
I don't think I was awake
But maybe a couple hours a day four weeks at a time. I didn't eat anything for three weeks. I lost 35 pounds
I need to I need to get my you know fucked up. You know seven surgeries
35 pounds it is just I was like my high school size and I was just weak
And I couldn't eat. I'm this is a bar stools. I can say it on bar stools because that's who we are
This is the toughest thing for that happened to me
I didn't take a dump. Oh no
for
Three weeks. What?
Okay. No, there's a painkiller. No, I'm building up. I'm building up. I'm building up. I'm building up
So there's like his locker room. There's like mr. Sanders. You you've got to take the uh,
Whatever the thing that make you about anima. No, I forgot what it was laxatives. I don't think they call it laxatives or something
chili skyline chili
milk
And I said, okay
Then they say well, can you
Use a bed pan. I say ma'am would all do respect. I can't trick my mind
Into taking a dump in the bed
I can't trick myself to do that. It's no way I could just have my mind and thinking I'm on the toilet
But I'm in the bed and I'm sitting straight laying straight down. I can't even push him out. I can't do that
That's not gonna happen. So I said, I'll tell you what guys
Get me a chair get me to the bathroom because I feel like I'm almost ready
So instead of them me letting them get me up
I push up on the bed and I had no strength because I haven't done nothing and during the month
And I lost all strength there. I got dizzy. They put me in the chair
And when I got to the toilet, I tried to push up off the chair a little bit
And they set me on the toilet, but I exhausted all then I said you guys get out of the room go
I passed out
I passed out on the toilet like couldn't do nothing like
They ran in there got me out and it was just a tear jerking like I could not believe this happened to me. I was so weak
This is what happened to me and I was I was mad at myself
I mean, I was teary-eyed crying mad at myself to put me back in the bed and all night I set up and thought about I failed
The next day I said, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm serious
I could work to the next day
I'm gonna take this dump like like I'm serious like the rocking music is on and I'm like I'm gonna take this dump
You're like game planning for it. I'm gonna take this dump. Wait. Give us. Yeah, give us. We'll put music behind this
Give us a speech of of what you're feeling. This is a speech
Okay, they're gonna come in here. They're gonna pick me up and they're gonna put me in the bed
Take me out of the bed. Okay. I'm getting up. I'm not gonna use my strength anymore. I'm gonna preserve it
So when I need it, okay, I'm gonna let them do all the heavy lifting
It got me in the chair took me over to the toilet set me on there
I looked at I'm stirring an eye and I said get out
Get out. So now I'm on the toilet and I'm like, okay, I could do this
I could do this
I could do this
I mean, it was like a woman giving birth and when I tell you
It was like a rubik's cube
This solid. I believe this was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life
The sat the act covering jerry rice michael ervin all those guys does not compare to what I pushed out
dude
It was I looked down there. It was nine rubik's cubes
And I was just late. I was laying across the toilet like that when I was
Dude, come on and get me
dude
That's the toughest battle I've ever had in my life. I believe I was like
I believe it sounds awful. Yeah, you couldn't even high step after what was the understatement
awful was the understatement. I'm
I'm not lying. It was so devastating. I had to look. Yeah. Oh, you have to
Because you don't know like what's making you feel that bad. I'm not exaggerating. It was nine rubik's cubes
It took a couple flushes. They weren't going they weren't going in one shot
They didn't go they're not going one shot. Oh, man. It's like they had to break up
They had to break the huddle and office and defense. It's no way so something ever
So dan has got all that footage for episode five. No, you don't have it
You don't have that didn't make it
Um, well, I'm happy that you're feeling a lot better walking around. All right, so last last question
Would you like to please rank your five nfl quarterbacks right now? Because I know that yes, whatever you say is going to be very stupid
Yes, okay. Mm-hmm. Number one. Tom Brady's retired. Tom Brady's retired because he would be one. Yeah
I'm gonna go with my homes just because okay, okay
to
This is where it's gonna get done. Yeah
No, I don't agree with you
I'm gonna go with
deck
I told you I didn't know it was gonna get that. That's I thought it was gonna get other way to go. That's that's very good
That's the personnel that everyone else has and wait. What are you talking about the personnel that he's got loads of
Garbage his line is garbage. I mean
I hate the guy, but you're not gonna pick the guy who just won the mvp two times in a row
Who erin rogers? Oh, I'm sorry erin rogers number two. Okay. No, no, no erin rogers is one. No
Erin rogers is one
Mahomes is too you you can count on erin rogers to do to lose in the visual round or the nfc champions. Mahomes is two
Deck is three
Okay
Still crazy. That's so dumb. Yeah, that part is crazy
This is where I'm gonna go with uh
Oh, no, only only because only because he had a great playoff game
Even though they lost because if Lamar would have lost he lost. No, I'm gonna go with uh my guy from buffalo
Okay, josh Allen. That's actually huge for holy shit. Now five is a toss up between several men
Give me a list
Just throw out the names that you're considering for five. You can leave five open and give me the the considerations
burrow
Yep, okay
my guy and uh
L. A. Chargers. He's it can't get complain Herber Herber could play
So you soured on Lamar Jackson
Lamar didn't have a great year. I don't know what to expect from Lamar. I just sour on him. I he's inconclusive
Yeah, what about big Ben big Ben is big Ben should have retired three years ago
And you know what everybody knows, of course, but nobody said oh, no, we said it. No, we yeah. Yeah, we said
Yeah, we don't want it. We hope he never that's that's about it. But three knows
Okay, and you got to be careful with the young guys. They had great years, but you you can't it's a moment
Don't make a monument out of a moment. There you go. It's a moment. Yeah staffers. Where does he fall?
He won. He's still stafford now stafford is i'm proud of him. He won. Yeah, but
It's no way you you should win a superbowl when you throw two picks
It's no way he threw what no i'm trying to think who else i mean rossensperger did it's but it's not normal
That's not that doesn't supposed to happen. Yeah, defensively with a defensive mind
That's does not supposed to happen. Is Aaron donnell the best defensive player of all time not of all time
He's one of the best cousin june bug. I am I am you are yeah, I am then uh lt probably
Reggie white. Oh my god. See those
Those guys are killers, man
Reggie bruce smith guys like that ray Lewis was phenomenal ed reed was so dominant
Yeah, I just like it that the guys that I were able I was able to play with
They're in it. Yeah. Yeah between you and ray Lewis
Who was the guy that was like given the best motivational speeches? I was I was past my prime then so that was ray's team
I was just there. Did he get you fired up?
Hey, if I had to get fired up there's a problem
You can't you can't get another man. I I didn't I didn't need you're always fired up. Right. I didn't need that
I just had a job. I didn't have to get I didn't play with emotions. I just had a job
Yeah, I I wasn't a yeller and screamer on the field never went off on my teammates
I ain't I ain't give all those big bravado speeches when I played
Oh, uh last last last question. I think just gave me the eyes
Um, you care to comment on that hat you're wearing on the dunk contest. Uh, that was beautiful, wasn't it?
I had to do something different. Where were you was that from?
80 it had to be 90s 90s. Yeah, I one last question for you
Oh, I'm actually getting the he needs to leave. Okay. Yeah, one last question. Sorry. I didn't see the text
I'm 54 leaving. I want to but anyway, there we go
What what was up with that that dive?
Like you embarrassed all of us, but you made it right. It was slippery. Yeah, but you didn't count that in you're a very calculated guy
You didn't count that I said it was slippery before I thought my athleticism could overcome that
It wasn't able I wasn't able to but I was scared that you was gonna crack a knee cap
I know me terror hamstring. I know just something. Here's the thing
Here's the one one one great thing about being is out of shape and fat and no you
But here's the great thing is that I don't move fast enough to get injured
You know how you have to like actually kind of move to get injured
I don't I don't have fast twitch much muscles and that looked like a pool
Back from like the 80s. Yeah, the hotel was no rose place. Yeah, you ever watch that show? Yeah, it was kind of like that set up there
Yeah, yeah, it was sort of like the pool that Naimeth was talking his junk. Yes. Yes
When he guaranteed to win. Yes. Um, all right coach prime appreciate you guys fall season
I can't recommend it enough Tuesdays and Thursday nights. You can watch the you know last year
You can watch at any time. It's the best
And a drunk guy made the whole thing. So it's a feat of he embarrassed. It's a marvel
It's an actual modern marvel that it got to air
He really embarrassed me. Dan is actually the best athlete in this interview right now for being able to drink and edit
Yeah, but he didn't do no speaking
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All right, let's wrap up uh quickly
Who what's our predictions for who's going to be in what booth next year real quick cbs is going to stay the same
Jim jim nance and tony romo. Obviously traigman now seems like he's espn
Yeah, looks like he's going to be espn. I feel bad like no one's talking about joe buck and all this joe's
He's he's losing his pissing buddy. I I think joe buck has
He might go to espn. I mean, I doubt it, but he that's been rumored a little bit
That would be crazy. It would be crazy baseball too though. That would fuck him. I'm gonna go
I'm gonna go uh
espn will be
chris fowler
And traigman amazon will be collinsworth and herb street
Wait, who's doing who's doing play-by-play just have just have no sorry not collinsworth michael's in herb street
and
fox will be
joe buck
Sean patin. Oh, I actually think it's going to be joe buck and greg olson. Oh
I think they're going to move them up. Yeah
um
I'm going to go on espn
I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it with steve levy. I like steve. Okay. I like them too, but I'm just you know
We're shuffling all the decks. Yeah, I think steve levy and then troi akeman
And then amazon. I think you're right. I think they're just going to move over
I think it's going to be al and I think it's going to be uh
Maybe herb he does want. I mean, I think herbie wants that
Which is weird
I don't know. It's a lot of it's it's less work and a lot more money
Like I it's it's like the shaw mcvay rumors when everyone is like shaw mcvay might go in the booth
Oh, why would he do that? I don't know to work one one hundredth of the amount of time and get paid double
Sounds pretty good. They should do uh espn instead of doing the manning cast
They should do the grouting cast where it's j john induce. Hmm. I'd be it
Uh would need to have a 15 second delay on that. I if I were troi akeman by the way
Going to espn. I'd be like you can't do the manning cast anymore. That would suck
I was thinking about that actually like why why would you agree to go there?
Even though the manning cast doesn't draw that many eyeballs
It's just like a bunch of people that watch it sometimes has a second screen thing
It could be like, oh, it's better. Well, the the problem you're gonna want to do with that
It's gonna clear it but if you're troi you're going to espn
Basically to give the wet suck to roger goddell right so they can get a decent game every now and again on money
Football and the manning cast is at its worst when it's a good game right that people care about it's at its best
When it's a team that a game that nobody gives a shit about that's out of out of hand by the second quarter
And I also understand shriekman like just out of principle
Seeing tony romo make that much money and everyone being like he's incredible
When you've won three super roles with the cowboys and you've been doing it for a lot longer that would piss me off
That would really piss. Troy probably wants to go to a network that allows him to smoke weed in the booth
Ooh, good point. Do they allow to espn? I'm sure yeah, disney though. You can do anything you want disney. Mm-hmm. I don't know
disney
Actually fox might be well fox. No, you could you could probably could you blaze up? I don't think so
You could maybe take some pills or something. Definitely pills. Yeah. Um, all right
What are we doing? Oh, we read an article everyone read an article on mlb lockout. Shall we go? Yeah
Uh, pfc. Why don't you start? Okay? I read an article on the mlb lockout again. I went back to breitbart sports
They always have the fire takes
Um, basically where we're at right now is there's a deadline that the owners have set
Which is today?
February 28th. It would have been a real rib tickler if they had said the 29th
As the as the deadline, but they just arbitrarily set this deadline on the 28th
Which is today where if they don't come to an agreement, they're going to start canceling games
actual real regular season games
And uh, then the players are like, no, we can always make them up in double headers
The owners are like, no, we don't want to do that
Then the players are like, well, if you cancel games and you don't make them up in double headers
Then we're going to disagree with the playoff expansion formula that you have in place
And we're not going to let you put advertisements on our helmets
So, you know what they're playing hardball. They are truly
Um, I sorry that was my big takeaway too that tomorrow or today feels like a pretty important day
Uh, I also read that talks were productive, but short. Okay. And then yeah, there you go. And then
Um, the most important piece that I got I read my article from marketwatch.com
Um between 1 p.m. And 6 30 p.m. On sunday deputy commissioner dan halem
Made four walks from the offices in the main part of roger dean stadium
To the area where players caucus in the cardinals clubhouse building beyond the right field wall
Okay, that's a lot of walks. That's a lot of walks four walks. How was he going there?
That was between one and six thirty. They have the bathroom there. I don't know, but that's a lot of walks
like that I love that stat like what
Something's happening. He's walking back and forth and every time I read the name dan halem. I think it's I think it's dan
Herron. Yeah, which he would have had this solved already. We should just ask dan herron
Yeah, we'll just pretend that you're the deputy commissioner. Also, what is rob manford doing in all this? Is he involved man fraud?
He's man fraud just making his number two doing man fraud's about to have a serious issue on his hands because
One, uh, frank the tank francis fleming is planning on locking out the lockout on tuesday
How's he gonna do that? He is going to protest
The lockout
Okay, he's going on strike from the lockout. Correct. He doesn't you don't lock out frank the tank frank the tank locks out you
So he's planning on he tweeted on saturday afternoon amidst the college basketball mania
We want I want to lock out. I want to protest the lockout. Can anyone tell me where well the irony is
That the lockout would definitely make frank the tanks mental health so much better because he wouldn't be upset about the
Mets now, but I think he's that upset about the lockout
Like the Mets
Just the existence of the Mets is better than no Mets. No Mets would drive him insane
But he wouldn't have anything to get that mad about he needs that it's true. Yeah, it keeps him going also one last thing was uh
They're they have a document that they're reviewing
359 pages. That's insane. No one's no one's read the whole I'd give up if our max surgeon. I'd be like fuck this
I'm not doing I also read that the players drove cars
Yeah, these negotiations and some of the cars were expensive. They do they are some
Guys who have some money now. I think the players should they should have to walk on foot
They shouldn't have they shouldn't have hotels either. They should have to wear they should have to ride donkeys
To the they should have to beg for money
Or hitch a ride in no the bus. They should have to take the bus. Yeah, I'll take the bus take the bus
Cool ranch Doritos. Sure as there was holding cool ranch Doritos at the meeting
Those are cheap. Those are like 39 cents a bag also make some
Great taste. That's actually a great negotiating skill like
To go to a meeting like that. I feel like that's a cat dog situation. Like are you a
Regular Doritos or a cool ranch guy cool ranch being the cooler of the people. Great high stack. Yeah cooler ranch
Especially when you dip it in salsa
Yeah
Billy what was your article?
I read sports illustrated and then I saw that tweet about the cool ranch
All I got was players
Gave a substantive offer
And the owners like nah
Okay, got it. Good. All I I should add one more thing. I guess the owners want 14 playoff teams and the players want 12
Hmm. Let's do 13
Why not every year. Yeah one side gets more. Yeah, we'll meet in the middle depends on the year this year
The nationally gets seven teams. Everyone's the all star game. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, it means more
Uh jake
In addition to what you guys said, uh, Monday will be the eighth
consecutive bar to get bargaining session
I've got to think once they enter like the fifth of the sixth. They're like, all right. What are we doing here?
Right, just play the game right like come on. It doesn't work like but no eight straight days like Hanukkah
Exactly like Hanukkah, but no gifts. No gifts and no candles. Yes, and Hank
I read an article on bluebird.com
John Hayman said a website contradictory to all the negativity upset
Surrounding the MLB players talks one person involved said he believes the sides are now within striking distance
And a deal could be done by tomorrow night. This was uh on the 27th of this morning
Striking distance is an interesting choice of words there luxury tax remains a sticky issue
But a 225 230 million threshold should work and then zack brinton who's a player on the Yankees and is in the meetings
Replied and said this is not accurate
So so we're not close a lot of a lot of misinformation. It's tough. Yeah. Was that oh
Bluebird that's that's the bird app. Yes talking about the bird where the empaths go every day. Yeah
Would you consider yourself to be an empath? Thank you? Absolutely. Oh, yeah, you are sometimes I need to take a break
but for the most part
I'm like probably
75 empath and then you know, I had to I had to take a break sometimes from caring too much
Yeah, me too
Because I'm I'm such a good person
Then sometimes it hurts to care so much. Yeah
I struggle only few will understand the uh, it's this is just a totally unrelated thing
But take my son understands take a break
So anytime I want to like go check my score or something. I'm like, I'm taking a break. He's like, okay, cool
Like take a break. Did I take a break? I'm like, yeah, I'm taking a break
I need to take a break. Kentucky just hit a three in my fucking face. I'm taking a break. All right. It's just a little break
Uh, but yeah empaths out there shout out the real ones. So we're not gonna baseball
I think
Hank just said that we're within striking distance. Nope. Hank. Zach Britton said no
Yeah, but Hank reported that they are what if what if Zach Britton was saying this is not accurate
We're closer than striking distance. Yeah, we're in a phone booth. Yeah Bernard Hopkins
Sounds like you yeah, everyone out there that thinks that Zach Britton was saying the opposite
You're actually putting words in his mouth baseball if baseball doesn't start the season and play a full season
They're gonna learn very quickly that
They they miscalculated like the world's need for baseball like I'm thinking about it right now
Even when the NBA started late
We football was going on so it was like, okay
Football's the only
League where if they didn't start on time people would write now if baseball doesn't start for a month
I'll be I'll be like, oh this sucks. I want baseball, but I wouldn't notice fully until
Like late june and be like where the fuck is my base? You're not a seam head like I am
I I love opening week of baseball
but if they really wanted to
To do it right they would just have opening week and then they would
Institute the lockout then right because I again and then bring it back after the fourth of july
Yeah, no opening day is great
And I I love baseball in the summer
But if if you're like telling me that there's not going to be baseball where we're watching march madness
It's going to be hard for me to to be like damn. Where's the baseball?
So that's the that's the problem. They run into I will get pissed by the end of june
I'll be like where the fuck is my baseball?
Yeah, instead of like figuring out all this shit about designated hitters and which
Which games start extra innings with the runner on second base
That's like manford's favorite thing to do. Yeah to continue be like, okay. We'll give you another designated hitter
Is that back this season? I don't know
I can't keep track of it. Oh, yeah. No, it's universal dh
They roll the extra innings. Oh the extra innings. No, uh, I don't know. I don't know either. I'll look who knows
Uh, all right, let's wrap up billy. You got some of these, uh
Final death. They're all pretty
Pretty grim. Well, we're doing but
They were too chicken shit to do their own article. So we're doing it. I found uh some good ones though
So this is a reddit post. So this happened a couple of years ago
We had an ex gang guy who's dying of cancer and he confessed that he was the gang
None of these have been vetted by the way just the heads up for many years
He went to confess to all the killings and showed the police where the bodies are buried
He would get closure knowing that the surviving families of his victims find out where they are buried
We had to get to the hospital legal team involved because
We had no policies to deal with that cops got involved and the dude confessed to gang murders from decades ago
I got to say like drawing a map on your death bed is pretty fucking cool. Yeah, that is also all these I just assume are made up
Uh, you guys are like you're laying down and then you draw like a giant x and you're like here you go
So under this tree most of them are just like
Like okay, then there's this one
Uh, sorry, there won't be like I farted
When I was 16 I worked as a dietary aid in a pretty nice nursing home
There was this one older gentleman that I became pretty good friends with
He always talked about world war two and how he had lost so many guys in his company
Several days in a row. I had noticed that he wasn't coming down to the dining room for lunch or dinner
Went to his room to check on him and he wasn't there the nurse said that he had a spell and fell out of his bed
His doctor wanted him to go to the hospital for observation. What had really happened is he had a stroke
He got back to the nursing home about a week later and he really couldn't remember anyone except for me
We talked the day after he got back and he told me he wasn't doing good
He knew this he knew his time was coming to a close
Said it was time for him to pay for all the horrible things he had done when he was over in europe
He wasn't a religious man, but he asked me where I thought he was going
I said to bed because it's getting close to lights out. He said no joe
By the way, my name is mike. I mean up or down now. I'm not a deeply religious person either
But I said martin that's not for me to say he laughed and said I know where I'm going
There's only one place for people who have done what I've done. I've killed so many people joe
Most of the time it didn't matter who it was. We went into buildings just shooting. There's only one place for me
It's what I deserve
I had absolutely nothing to respond with when I say that the experience shook me to the core
I really mean it that man's face is burned into my memory because of that conversation
He passed away the next day his son kept asking where joe was at
I quit that day working in a nursing home is haunting place takes a special type of person to be able to watch people
Just die around you
The big great buzzfeed uh
Yeah editors. Oh, yeah, we should probably not do this. Yeah, it's it gets worse. Yeah, it's heavy. Yeah
So maybe it was good that they deleted the tweet
I think I've I've just realized that I'm I want to learn a really really good joke
And just like the ultimate going out on a high note just on my deathbed
I'll just say I'll say the joke that I've been rehearsing my entire life
Yeah, and then people will laugh and then I'll just die and it'll be it standing ovation for the joke. Yeah
What if they didn't like the joke?
Well, I don't have to stick around here. Yeah, but that would suck if you died and everyone's like damn that joke sucked
All right, that's our show. We'll see everyone on Wednesday Wednesday
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