Pardon My Take - Deion Sanders, Recapping A Great CBB Weekend, Who's Back & We Read A MLB Lockout Article Again

Episode Date: February 28, 2022

Incredible college basketball weekend recapped but best times of the year (00:02:56 - 00:31:29). Billy almost went to Ukraine after a few too many beers on Friday. (00:31:29 - 00:41:42)Who's back of t...he week including Buzzfeed's death porn and James Harden (00:41:42 - 01:02:57). Deion Sanders joins us in studio with Dana Beers to talk about the Fall Season of Coach Prime, the difference he's making at Jackson State, Dana Beers drinking too much and tons more (01:02:57 - 01:51:20). We finish up with an article each of us read on the MLB lockout.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take are good friend Deion Sanders, first time ever in person, in studio, plus a very special appearance from Dana Beers, who drank some beers because he's got a problem.
Starting point is 00:00:25 You might recognize him from his name being on the Jimmy Fallon Show. My favorite part about Dana Beers is every time that something happens, he's like, is this real life? Well, yeah, it is, because it's been real life. But for somebody who's drunk all the time, you are always questioning your reality.
Starting point is 00:00:40 Is this real, am I alive right now? I feel like I'm blacked out. We have college basketball, Unreal Weekend. We're gonna talk a little who's back, maybe get into a little who's gonna be announcing what game in the NFL next year, because everyone's a free agent apparently now. And then we will finish up.
Starting point is 00:00:59 We all read an article about the MLB Lockout. You probably remember this because we've done it before, but it's been locked out for like 100 days now, so we all read a new article. So we're gonna update everyone after Deion. And before we get to all of that, Black Rifle Coffee, go to blackriflecoffee.com slash take use code take today
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Starting point is 00:03:26 It's not leap year this year. By the way, I premature who's back of the week making the leap year jokes like no weed on February 29th, 30th, and 31st. That is true, yeah. Yeah, sign up for that. I always wonder like, we should probably get like a leap year baby on.
Starting point is 00:03:43 How much does that suck? Well, we are a leap year baby. Yeah, we are, we're true. Yeah, we are. We are, this is our six year anniversaries between today at midnight between today and Tuesday. This is our six year anniversary as a podcast.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Is that right? No, fifth. One and a quarter. We're one and a quarter years old. 2016, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21. So starting our six year. Starting our sixth year. The leap year baby is always confused.
Starting point is 00:04:08 We're in kindergarten. Like do you call yourself one year old when you're four? Maybe that's what Hasbulla is. Maybe he's just a leap year baby. That's probably right. Andy Milanakis. Yeah. Actually, Andy Milanakis I share a birthday with.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Most famous guy I share a birthday with. January 30th? Yes. Andy Milanakis, shout out the king, the original king. I think he lives in New York now. We should get him on the show. What do you think? Can we get him on the show?
Starting point is 00:04:31 Sure. Let's get him on the show. What do you think the best birthday is? Like with the most famous people. We should probably do some research on that. Have a birthday Olympics. I actually, before we get to the- Mine's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Besides me, obviously, Jackie Robinson. Okay. Who's number one? You're basing this off of the fact that you know. Yeah, who's birthday is we should probably do research on that. And who's Robin? Me or Jackie?
Starting point is 00:04:55 That was a backwards way of being like my birthday stacked. It is, Justin Timberlake. It's big three. The unbelievable Saturday in college basketball, I did tweet, I love this time of year. Some people were saying that I say that all the time. So real quick, what is your favorite? I love this time of year.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Cause I think you're allowed to say that like seven times a year. Okay, so off the top of my head, I love the week of July 4th. Yup, love this time of year. Barbecue's, sun, day drinking, sweating, NBA, well it used to be the NBA free agency, right? Yup.
Starting point is 00:05:32 I love that. Big fan of the first two weeks of March Madness. First two weeks, all of March. All of March, I love this time of year. March is a good month. I love this time of year. I love Thanksgiving week, feast week, college basketball, football, everything, I love this time of year.
Starting point is 00:05:47 That's a big, I love this time of year. All of October, I think probably, I think I'm just a happy guy. Well, what's the worst time of year? I'm gonna say last week of August is pretty bad. We can hate summer. He knows. No, I don't hate summer. No, you do hate summer.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I don't like August, August is too hot. Last week of August is pretty bad because I think we all have PTSD from thinking of that as back to school time. Of course, that never leaves your brain. But yeah, it was pointed out to me that I say that a lot and I think it's just, I'm a happy guy who loves, cause like I'm now thinking about like
Starting point is 00:06:19 the first weekend of May, Kentucky Derby, NBA, NHL playoffs, I love that time of year. Masters, first week, St. Patrick's Day, I love that time of year. First week in June can fuck right off. First week of June, that's usually actually NBA finals, but yeah, that can, that doesn't really do anything for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:38 What about the summers coming up? Yeah. Love this time of year. I love the summer. You have the whole summer ahead of you. That's what Memorial Day is for. I think the only. Which is the last week of May.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I think the only time you can, you can't say I love this time of year is right after the Super Bowl until right now. That's it. That's the only time you can be like. That's the time when I wish that they made a hibernation drill. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:57 But now that Super Bowl happens so much later, you really only have to deal with like two weeks because we had this Saturday, which was incredible. This felt like the beginning, the true beginning of March Madness. The one, two, three, four, five, six, and nine teams in the country. So seven out of the top 10 teams,
Starting point is 00:07:17 really seven out of the top nine because Baylor was the 10th team lost on Saturday, upset Saturday, unbelievable. I picked a really bad time to unearth the, the Tom Izzo is overrated thing. Yeah. But that was such a classic Tom Izzo spot too, where like Michigan State has no identity
Starting point is 00:07:34 and they've just been sucking terribly. And then they're going to win that game, especially with the three pointer that the guy hit. Who hit that Jake? We're going to lean on you here. That was an awesome game. Just start the day. And then it was one of those days,
Starting point is 00:07:49 very similar to like a college football Saturday where you kind of lose perspective. I was sitting there watching Gonzaga play in a high school gym at St. Mary's, which I love. I love the WCC and how all the gyms are like super, super small. And I was like, oh yeah, remember, remember Michigan State beat Purdue like 14 hours ago?
Starting point is 00:08:08 This has been a fun day. Yeah, no, that, that gym is Tyson Walker. Tyson Walker, okay. That, that gym, I love the WCC. I love St. Mary's. They always managed to have like three Australians, two Kiwis, three guys from the Baltic States on their team.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Remember, remember a couple of years ago when I, when I smoked a little too much weed and maybe took a little too much Adderall, I think I thought I had unearthed a point shaving conspiracy with St. Mary's. Yeah, it's like, turns out that's just how they shoot in Lithuania. It wasn't true at all.
Starting point is 00:08:36 But it was fun for that moment. I was very excited. They went, they went what, 16 and 0 in their home gym this year? Who, St. Mary's? St. Mary's. It's Gonzaga's first WCC loss. It is, St. Mary's is such a funny like group of guys
Starting point is 00:08:50 because they have their entire team is, they look like a rock band. Down to like having their power forwards and centers look like the roadies. Like the guys who were carrying the amps and stuff. And they just, they have some like gnarly looking dudes. They had one dude who was just fully bald. And like, I don't even think he was shaving his head.
Starting point is 00:09:10 He was just like, no, I'm 22 years old and bald. No, they kind of like strike a balance of like, if BYU did hard drugs, that's what you get with St. Mary's. Right, right. It's awesome to watch. And they beat Gonzaga who now we can say is soft. Oh yeah. I don't like Drew Timmy.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Do you like Drew Timmy, Jake Marsh? I didn't like him last year. What do you got? Can I, I have a critique of Drew Timmy. Go ahead. I think his shoulders are too small. They sink down a little bit. They're too small.
Starting point is 00:09:40 He doesn't have, this is gonna, he doesn't have man shoulders. He's got like, you can't play, you can't play in the low post without man shoulders. He's got like Reggie Miller shoulders. Yeah, they're like, they're too slender. He's got a two, yeah. He's got like a two guard shoulders,
Starting point is 00:09:52 not a center power forward shoulders. My critique of him, no. I'm a big fan. I think he's okay. My critique would be that his, his mustache is a little bit too ironic. His handlebar stuff. Yeah, too ironic.
Starting point is 00:10:05 I don't have a problem with guys growing mustache if they're mustache guys. Like Big Cat is a mustache guy. Adam Morrison, who are you talking about there, Hank? The age man? Yes. Yeah. But yeah, that was around, he was, he was a little,
Starting point is 00:10:18 he was a hipster. Yeah, no, it's true to me. Remember last year when he did the, he did the mustache thing? Yeah, down 15 against Baylor. That was when I was like, I'm, I'm off this guy. The sad mustache thing was like that sorority girl doing the sad dance.
Starting point is 00:10:31 Yeah. Oh, come on. You don't have tears. Yeah. Yeah. But that game was awesome. Who's number two? Oh, fucking shout out our guys.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Ronan Caleb, unbelievable day they had. If you haven't seen it, I'm sure the whole video is going to come out. They started the day in Fayetteville, where the must bus beat Kentucky, didn't storm the court because SEC, which it's very, very funny that the SEC of all conferences where like it means more.
Starting point is 00:11:00 And that's literally they're saying it means more and people are crazy. They have the strictest, fine schedule for any team that are any fan base that storms the court or field. So Arkansas had, they stormed the field against Texas in football. Then they stormed the court against Auburn in basketball. I think the fine yesterday, if they had stormed
Starting point is 00:11:22 was going to be $250,000, which is crazy. So they were very adamantly like no storming the court. They didn't let Caleb and Ron in the game. They barred them from the game. To be fair, they were also wearing like storm chasing uniforms. No, they were there for a storm. If they had gotten in, there would have been a storm.
Starting point is 00:11:40 They would have started a storm. But they let someone in who mooned a free throw shooter. That's fine. That's Arkansas. Yeah. It plays. That's OK. Then why not like Caleb and Ronan?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Well, because I don't think the guy walked in with his ass out. Yeah. He's like, hey, I'm the guy here to moon him. Maybe if they weren't wearing yellow, they would have been in. Yeah, but no, probably. They would stand out a little bit. They were ready for them, Smith. Yeah, they were ready for them.
Starting point is 00:12:03 No, I'm saying if they were. They were like, Elmer wearing Arkansas gear and just weren't either way. The storm. They I get a FaceTime. And like, I don't know, one. It's probably like three o'clock from them full. They had their full gear.
Starting point is 00:12:15 They were just standing on the side of the road. And they're like, hey, is do you think Colorado has any shot of beating Arizona? I was like, you guys are going to Colorado. Like we're thinking about it. All I said to him was like, it is the back to back in the mountain trip, which usually isn't great for the opposing team. And they're like, we're going.
Starting point is 00:12:32 They flew to Denver, drove to Boulder, got there for the second half. Colorado had an incredible second half, beats number two Arizona, stormed the court. Like maybe the greatest day ever that Caleb and Roan could ever have. Like they deserve all the credit in the world. Chef Donnie, Tom, Trey, just shouting them all out.
Starting point is 00:12:51 What happened unbelievable? What happened at the end of the Kentucky Arkansas game where Kentucky's players left the court before the game? That was because of the storm. They were reversed. They were reversed storm. Yeah, no, they were. They were basically putting like hiding in the cellar.
Starting point is 00:13:04 They were putting duct tape on their windows. Yeah. Yeah. I would also like boarding it up. Whenever there's a storm, usually the students don't go like tackle the opposing players. I actually don't think it's ever happened. Yeah, I get why they would do it.
Starting point is 00:13:16 But I think I haven't heard any stories of it. Now, someone in this podcast room is going to say that I have a bias. But I faintly remember Coach K complaining that he thought that he was like under attack once and thought that his team was going to get injured. He was crying. That definitely happened.
Starting point is 00:13:30 That definitely happened. But I don't think that a player has ever been accosted by anybody. Yeah, not that much. Because we would hear about that. They would probably just take away the student section for the rest of the year if that ever happened. Court storming Coach K. No, there was a member, LeGarret
Starting point is 00:13:44 Blunt. He hit someone. Well, that's an opposing player. He was opposing player. But is that who? There was one punch. No, you're thinking of Germain O'Neill. No, I know that.
Starting point is 00:13:54 It's an old video. There was something. Something did happen on a court storming. No, it was a player ran over. It was the Kansas State. There was a football player who ran over some kid once and was like, oh, it was an accident. Yeah, here it is.
Starting point is 00:14:07 I just searched it. 2013 Coach K. Complains About Virginia Court Storm. So that was probably why it all started. He was like, I thought I was going to lose my life for a second there. And so Cal, he got all his players off and then left his players out there on the court to hit a three, a bank shot three at the buzzer
Starting point is 00:14:23 to cover the spread. Which, yeah, I pushed on that. And it's a new, I think most gamblers will understand what I'm about to say, but I was watching the game. It was nap time in my house. I watched the end of the game. Nap time ended.
Starting point is 00:14:37 My whole family came back in the living room and I rewound the TV and I made them all watch it. And they were like, we don't care. I was like, do you see this? Do you see this? There's fucking three. They're like, please just put on fucking Moana right now. This is stupid.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It was a freight train that was coming about five miles per hour. Yeah, everybody saw it coming. But it just adds insult to injury when Cal takes the rest of his team off. And then he's giving up the game. I knew too, you guys have been around me enough to know like, I know when I'm dead, before I'm dead.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It was a math game. Arkansas was up two to four points for the last like three minutes. And I was like, at some point, a free throw is gonna get missed and there will be an inconsequential three that has all the consequences. Just a couple of quotes here.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Do you know how close you are to just put yourself in the position of one of our players or coaches? And I'm not saying any fan did this, but the potential is there all the time. But they can just go up to you and say, coach, you're a blank or push you or hit you or whatever. What do you do? What if you did something in retaliation?
Starting point is 00:15:38 That would be the story, right? We deserve that type of protection. This is coach K after Virginia stormed the court. He's basically saying it didn't happen, but I'm so mad that I lost. I'm gonna complain about the court being stormed instead of the fact that I lost. But it could have happened.
Starting point is 00:15:52 It could have happened. It could have happened. I could have died. Did you ever address what happened with coach K when he just left at halftime on the eve of those stories coming out? I think his grandson needed a ride. That might have been it.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Hank, did you see that in the news? Oh, I saw it. I remember where you guys said. It was just kind of crazy that they were probably gonna ask him about what happened with him just taking the Duke coaching job away from a black coach. Hank? That's why he left in halftime.
Starting point is 00:16:23 I thought he was... It was interesting. It was just interesting. This is the last quote from coach K. I don't think he knows what college kids do. He said, they should have fun and burn benches and do all that stuff. I'm all for that.
Starting point is 00:16:35 They're a great school, great kids, but get us off the court and that's the bottom line. Because coach K said so. That's fair. Billy. It was a Nebraska football player who punched the Missouri fan. Yes, I remember it very vividly.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It was a really bad sucker punch. Yes. Wilson? And he was saying, he basically was like, I felt nervous for my life. Yeah, it sounds like Wilcompton. Kellan Huston. Yeah, that's Wilcompton.
Starting point is 00:16:59 No, that's Wilcompton. He uses that name whenever he checks in a hotel. So we had Arizona Luz. We had, who's number three, Purdue? No, Auburn. Auburn. Which that one, as crazy as yesterday was, Arkansas was a favorite, Tennessee was a favorite.
Starting point is 00:17:17 So there was obviously some games that I think people, I mean, Baylor was a favorite. So there was a few games that it wasn't quote, unquote, an upset. It just felt like Bedlam because seven out of the top 10 teams lost. One thing I will always respect about Bruce Pearl is how the man manages to get more tan over the winter time.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Yeah. It's insane. It's like he plays in Maui every weekend. It's Mike Shanahan. He just glows. I think it used to pop a little bit more when he was coaching at Tennessee because the orange of the, the Tennessee orange
Starting point is 00:17:46 would be so strikingly similar in contrast to his skin where he would just, he would just turn into a big, like a big giant sun out there. The one, I'll say, I'm going to stop you on the glows. I think it's a glisten because he always has a sweat too. Yeah. It's a glisten. It's not, it's not like the heavy sweat,
Starting point is 00:18:03 like you see from the Sean Millers of the game. Right. But he's always wet. He's like, he looks like he walked through the misters at like a really hot like NFL stadium. Or the Broncos COVID protocols. Yes. Walk through the portable car wash.
Starting point is 00:18:16 Yeah, exactly. The like, oh shit, this will help me. I'll just get spritzed in the face for a second and then I won't be dehydrated. But contrary to what I was saying on last week's show, I do like Auburn. I think that they're very fun. Auburn fans are crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, they're crazy, but I love their particular brand of crazy. Yeah. I just, I'm mostly saying they're the team. You know, you always have a team like, I don't know if I trust them. Yeah. That Auburn's my idol.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I'm not so sure if I trust them yet guys. The craziest thing about yesterday was I walked away and being, being like Kentucky is still like they lost. And I was like, they lost. They had two, two of their best players come back from injury, Rusty, and they still were in that game. Like they fought back. They had a slow, if they keep getting slow starts,
Starting point is 00:18:57 I was at, as much as you can be impressed with a loss, like a road loss like that is nothing to be ashamed of in conference play, just like Kansas losing to Baylor. Like when you lose these tough games, especially at the end of the season on the road, you can't be like, oh man, they suck now. No, it's just really hard to win. I only think that a team sucks if,
Starting point is 00:19:16 if they're in the top 10 going into senior night and they lose their senior night game. Well, yeah, like you can't lose senior night. Like Gonzaga losing if it's all perspective, but Gonzaga was a 10 and a half point favorite. Arizona was a 10 and a half point favorite. Like those are losses that shouldn't have happened. The other ones were really good teams that were playing.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Arkansas is a really good team. Tennessee, Baylor, like these, these teams are really, really, really good. You know what I like the new, the new fashion trend I've picked up on is the net hats. Yeah. The students wearing their hats, they're just the nets that get cut down.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And the sharks in Arkansas students section were awesome. Yeah, yeah. They looked dehydrated. They did. But yeah, I need to get my hands on a net hat. I'm a big fan of novelty hat. What else from, so we were talking before the show cause PFT asked Jake,
Starting point is 00:20:02 what was your question about Providence? Do you think the Providence, they're already in the, they will make some noise department. I've got that file set aside for them. But would you say is Providence a real threat? Absolutely. The first off, shout out to coach Coolie.
Starting point is 00:20:16 Providence won the biggies for the first time ever. Yeah. On Saturday. Crazy. Which is crazy to think. And they won it with two games left. Yeah. Their mascot still freaks me out.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Of course. He is the biggest creep in the world. Now, mine is the St. Louis Billiken. That's a pretty creepy one. Yeah, it looks like the Wu Han bat. Did you, yeah, he's, that one's creepy. Do you see Xavier's got like an alternate mascot that basically is just a blue blob?
Starting point is 00:20:39 It's very weird. Interesting. Yeah, I don't. West of Kentucky's in that category. Yeah, it's basically what, they were like, ooh, Western Kentucky's cool. Let's just make a blue version of that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:48 No, Providence, look, 24 and three. Yes, they've won some tight games. But overall, 24 and three is 24 and three. So, yeah. And I think they can make the final four. So, why not? Like, the thing that drives me nuts, and I love, obviously, Ken Palm is great
Starting point is 00:21:03 because he, like, you can basically look in the history of college basketball, like what teams will eventually be national champions, what teams will be final fours, those advanced stats. Everyone's got advanced stats now. I love using them. I do think that there's something that, like, the pendulum has swung too far on advanced stats,
Starting point is 00:21:22 not by the guys who make the advanced stats. It's by casual fans who then discredit good teams because their advanced stats suck. Providence is number one team in luck, right? That's what Ken Palm says. Wisconsin's actually very similar, where it's like, Wisconsin wins a lot of close games, hasn't blown a lot of teams out.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Everyone's saying, oh, wait till March, they suck. I think if you're a Providence fan, you have to just tune all of those fucking people out. They have grace at this point. Yeah, because it's like, enjoy the ride. College basketball is so much fun. The big games are so much fun, like storming the court after you win the Big E's
Starting point is 00:22:00 for the first time. Do you think any of those fans care about fucking luck? Like, that's so stupid. So, what happens if Providence loses in the second round? And everyone's like, oh, they sucked all along. Don't let them take it away from you. That was a really fun season. The tournament is really, really hard.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Anything could happen. I said to you, Jake, like Illinois last year, Illinois was really good last year. Yeah, they could've won it all. They could've won it all. They had a bad game against Loyola, Chicago, who played their best game of the season. That doesn't mean they sucked all year.
Starting point is 00:22:29 It just means a single elimination tournament is really hard to win. So, I think Providence fans, embrace it. Don't let anyone fucking rate on your parade. Big E's champions, it's, so what if some of these games are lucky? Like Jake said, 21 and three is 21 and three. 24 and three is 24.
Starting point is 00:22:45 But also, the way that your team plays in close games. Absolutely. You can't really write stats around. You can't sequence the clutch gene. You can't actually put numbers around everything that matters at the end of the game, like all the small stuff. So, yeah, that's just, it might not be quantifiable.
Starting point is 00:23:02 You might not be able to read it in a stat online, but it's still a thing that your team is good at. You can still say like, we're a very good second half team. We're very good down the stretch. Having seniors, having like senior leadership, not being able to say to yourself, like we're not gonna let this moment be too big. Absolutely, that all matters.
Starting point is 00:23:21 And also hitting your free throws. Yep. Like at the end of a Wisconsin game, if Brad Davidson's going to the line, he's gonna make them. You know what I mean? Like those are the type of things. If you have those type of guys on your roster,
Starting point is 00:23:32 that's not luck anymore. That's just having good players who make free throws in clutch situations. Back in high school, when I was doing brackets, I would always bet on the teams that had the higher free throw percentages. Team-wise, in the first two rounds. And it's usually a pretty good bet to make
Starting point is 00:23:48 because so much of it does come down to the end of the game where, yeah, if you have like a freshman that's attempting free throws, the moment's a little bit too big. And a lot of it is, yeah, free throws, and having a guy who can bring the ball up. Like a senior guard who's not gonna get rattled. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:24:04 Who's not gonna get rattled in big moments. Those two things matter. I've got a dumb idea that could revolutionize the NBA. Why don't they just go full court press? Because they get tired. Yeah, but the other guys get tired too. Yeah, but I think the defense gets really tired. Because then you got to also play offense
Starting point is 00:24:21 with those same defenders. I mean, 40 minutes from hell, no enriched. Yeah, those are electric, yeah. Always love that. I love whatever a team whips out a press and it just demolishes the other team. It's just hard to do for a sustained amount of time. I'll bet you there's gonna be an NBA coach
Starting point is 00:24:35 in the next five years, someone who has absolutely no business coaching at an NBA level, probably on the Knicks, that's just gonna be like, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna press. We're gonna play hard defense, and then he's gonna absolutely barrel out that first year. Probably not make it through the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:24:50 The best is though, when you try to press a team and everyone on the other team can handle the ball. So it's like you try to press him and then, oh look, here's the center being able to dribble the ball. That's also probably why, because everyone in the NBA can handle the ball, so it's not. Essentially, when you press in college, you're like, at least two or three of these guys
Starting point is 00:25:09 doesn't feel comfortable dribbling for more than three seconds, so we can do this. There's a guy that's seeing the water boy where the kicker looks at him, he's like, yeah, that's my bitch right there. There's one guy that you try to funnel the ball to on the press. Yeah, there's one guy who's always on a college roster
Starting point is 00:25:24 who catches the ball and immediately panics. It's like, okay, well, you're fucked. I looked up Ken Palm, because I didn't know where he came from, like what his background was. He's actually a storm chaser himself. Yeah, he has a master's degree in atmospheric sciences. From like Utah or something?
Starting point is 00:25:41 University of, he's an instructor there at Utah. He got his from the University of Wyoming. I knew he was out west somewhere. Yeah, but he's become, yeah, I mean, Ken Palm is not a secret anymore. It was maybe five, 10 years ago, but everyone uses it. It's, I think Vegas uses it. Players and the coaches use it for the scout.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Yeah, players and the coaches use it. So obviously he himself is a genius and what he does is great. I just don't like when casual fans try to discredit some of these teams who are having great seasons. It's like, fuck you, dude, it's hard to win games. 24 and three, Providence? Like, I don't care if they're lucky.
Starting point is 00:26:17 So where, where's the Providence right now? They're pretty far down there, aren't they? Well, in terms of Ken Palm, 39. Yeah, so. And they're the top 10 to 15 team right now. I remember SVP, like a few years ago, he would fight every single day online cause Maryland was like very good
Starting point is 00:26:35 and Ken Palm had him like outside the top 20. And he's like, I don't care. Like they're good. Don't apologize for winning. Yeah, it's like Wisconsin this year, they're good. I don't care. Like they're not great. They're not the best team.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I never said they were, but you can't get this. You can't get this point in the season and be one in your conference and be like, oh no, they stink. That's just not, that's not how it works. I completely agree. I was wrong in the pre-season. No, I'm not. This is not a year.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yeah. This is more for Providence people. Providence people get it all the time. Like everyone is going against Providence being like the luck has to run out and it hasn't. And maybe it never will. But also playing in these tight games is great experience for when it matters most.
Starting point is 00:27:15 A great point. In March, they could win four two-point games. They're battle testing. And go to the final four. Like who knows? Best, I love this time of year. Best time of year. Best time of year.
Starting point is 00:27:24 This is truly the only time I say it. Best time of year? Well, you're a man of integrity. When does that start? When is your best time of year start? I'd say the day after the Super Bowl through the final four. So you're not even including the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:27:38 in your best time of year? When college basketball, college basketball is my favorite sport when it has all the spotlight. It hits different. I'd agree with that. Yeah. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Like that Saturday was awesome. Yeah. It was wall-to-wall the best just watching every single game. It was literally like every single two hours. Like, oh, here's another huge game that's gonna happen. Here's another big game
Starting point is 00:28:02 where there's gonna be an upset. And now we have brackets. And now we have- The mid-major tournaments starting. We have brackets. Like it's great to see like, ooh, this team has this path to go dancing. I love brackets.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You're like a freak. I do. I love staring at brackets. Quickly, give us, before we move on to some other talk, give us your four one-seeds and four two-seeds. On the latest, Jake March. Yes, I just updated it.
Starting point is 00:28:25 You just updated it. Yes. Wow. Okay, so number one overall. So there's actually not a lot of change despite all the chaos this week because who do you move up?
Starting point is 00:28:36 Yeah, right. So it kind of cancels out. Duke did beat Syracuse, Syracuse. That was embarrassing. Syracuse is circling the drain. Yeah. At this point. It was supposed to be a wild season.
Starting point is 00:28:47 It is not. Coach K called in to Jim Bayheim's radio show. He did. It was Mike from Durham. Mike from Durham. It was a little fun treat that he did. That's funny. That's really funny.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Bayheim is Coach K's only friend, I think. Yeah, oh yeah. And they don't even like each other. Well, and his sons. Well, they coached the place 38 minutes ago. They coached us. They did it together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Mella was on a team, it's pretty wild. The one-seeds right now. I have Gonzaga, Arizona, Kansas, Auburn. Auburn was a lock a couple of weeks ago. Oh yeah, that could be Kentucky or Duke's one-seed. Yeah, so I'd say right now Gonzaga, Arizona are definitely getting it. Kansas, Auburn maybe.
Starting point is 00:29:25 And then twos are Baylor, Kentucky, Duke, Purdue, Wisconsin, Villanova, Texas, Tech Providence, the threes. Interesting. Now how locked in? I think if Wisconsin beats Purdue, they flip flop. And that would be a good game on Tuesday night. I'm excited for it. How locked in do you get on your seeds
Starting point is 00:29:43 and how much can change in a conference tournament? Oh, I mean, well, first off, this is my first year doing it, but a lot will change. Yeah, no, I want to know your, go in another formula. Yeah, what's behind it? Open the kimono for me. Who you got your playing games?
Starting point is 00:29:58 Right now, it's actually... This is like of the playing games, doing the playing games, Bracketology. Oh yeah, this is just a capture. A few weeks before is... I know what I'm doing, I'll film. Yeah, it's equivalent to the mock draft with six trades in the first round.
Starting point is 00:30:12 I met this one dude in Austin a few years ago. I forget the guy's name, but he is a Bracketologist and he is obsessed with the NIT. Oh, I love it. He doesn't give a shit about the NCAA tournament, but he gets fucking laser focused on the NIT, breaks down all the matchups, has his Bracket ready to go before they announce it.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Dude, I love all the... I love the CBI, the CIT, are they playing those this year? Yeah, the CBI's in Daytona Beach. I don't know about the CIT. And the CIT? I don't know about the CIT. Is the CIT the one where the championship games played, it's like a two game series at someone's home?
Starting point is 00:30:45 I love those tournaments. I've told this story before, but in a former life for everything, before Barstow, I was taking a GMAT class and I thought I wanted to go to business school and I was betting CBI and CIT games in a business class I had paid a lot of money for, or GMAT class, and I was like, this is the wrong thing for me.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, right now actually one of the first... It was like Oregon State was playing. One of the first four games I have a blue blood showdown, Indiana, North Carolina. Whoa, that would be fun. That would be sick. Very fun. Do you agree, Wisconsin, right now with three?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Yeah, no, I think three is fair. Yeah, yeah, I mean, their win against Rutgers was very big. Yeah, yeah, so. Tune in, by the way, Benchmont, Brad Davidson on today's show. There we go. Love this time of year. We've got some more stuff coming up. We're gonna have Titus on.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I think we're gonna have JJ Redick on coming soon. So we're gonna have a lot of good basketball content this next month. I've really loved John Rostin, by the way, tweeting during the war in Ukraine. Oh yeah. Like, when everything's going to shit on that first night and he was like,
Starting point is 00:31:47 wow, just saw a schedule release pop out for like Providence at Corpus Christi 2024. Very excited for this. This is only February. By the way, the war in Ukraine, can I just ask one question? Friday night, Billy, how close were you to getting a flight to Ukraine?
Starting point is 00:32:05 Because you had a tweet, you deleted it. What was the tweet? So the tweet was. It was fun, I haven't. I was coming by who's back. Me and the buddies like, you know. Wait, I'll read it, then you can explain. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It's from Billy Football. The boys and I are about seven beers deep, when I read that, I'm so used to reading PFT's notations afterwards. So what would you translate that to, PFT? Me and the boys are about seven beers deep. Are about seven beers deep. I'd say probably a dozen.
Starting point is 00:32:33 I'd say 12. Yeah, you have to do doctor math, which I hope that they teach every doctor in America to do that when they ask you how much you drink. And you say, I have like three beers on a Friday. You have to at least triple that. Yeah. The boys and I are about seven beers deep
Starting point is 00:32:48 and considering the free plane ticket from the Ukraine embassy to go defend freedom. We'll wake up and totally not do it, but we're getting hype RN. We're getting hot. You did get hype about it. We would get. If they had, if at that moment,
Starting point is 00:33:00 if you hadn't deleted that tweet, let's just play out a little scenario here. If you hadn't deleted that tweet, which you shouldn't have, cause it was very funny. And they in the Ukraine embassy saw the tweet and was like, we will be there in 30 minutes. We got a, we got a fucking private plane and some AK-47s and rocket launchers.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Do you think you would have gone? You know, those like memes where the guys like, oh, went out with the buddies and ended up in a different country. You mean, you mean the hangover of the movie? You know, we saw it. We did do the footwork where we like Googled like how you would do it.
Starting point is 00:33:36 That's some serious footwork. Yeah. It sounds like you were basically in Ukraine. Basically. And the pay is insane. What is it? I think it's like three K either a week. You'd be in mercy.
Starting point is 00:33:45 Billy Merck's? But what happened is, so you go to the embassy, they get you a ticket, they fly you to Budapest, then they take you on a convoy over the border and then like you get to the outskirts. What's crazy about that is getting in is easy, but like, I think the problem is getting out once you're there.
Starting point is 00:34:04 Okay, Billy. So. Yeah, once the war ends. Yeah. Once you kill Putin, they'll let you out. Final boss. But you know, it's not, I believe it's like, I'm sorry, it's not, we shouldn't really be,
Starting point is 00:34:17 you know. Joking about it. But I'm not joking about it. Whatever the pay is, I will triple it for you to go there. I'll match. If Donnie. So that's six times. If Donnie wants to go to Ukraine,
Starting point is 00:34:28 because I want to go with someone else, need a little buddy system. The boys. The boys, yeah. Seven beers deep. They got jobs. Well, no, answer me there. Who was you to?
Starting point is 00:34:37 Which one of the boys was it? Which of the boys? Was the one that was really instigating. That was like leading the charge on Google. No, we were just, you know, I hadn't seen him in a long time. You're doing cyber warfare. Some of my teammates.
Starting point is 00:34:51 That's usually what happens when I don't see my friends for a long time. Let's go fucking fighting a war. We were talking, you know, current events. You know, we were talking current events. And we were like. I do love how it seems that, it's like, how's your kids?
Starting point is 00:35:04 Hey, how's your kids? Has seen any good wars recently we can hop into? I love how Ukraine just, it appears that they have pound for pound, the most badass civilians of anywhere in the world. And when you look at, they've got like the Klitschko brothers. Yeah, that's my who's back.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Yeah, they've got a little Machanko. It's like, what's that, what's that sound in Iowa? I think it's Iowa city. It's like, if you get into a bar fight in Iowa city, chances are you're going to end up either against a collegiate wrestler or a professional MMA fighter. Yeah. It's like Ukraine is entire country
Starting point is 00:35:32 just built out of Iowa city. Yeah. Yeah. No, but it, you know. It's not a joke, but it would have been cool if you went. Yeah. The sports world has been condemning Putin and they're not, they're not pulling any punches.
Starting point is 00:35:45 I saw that the, uh, the world pass. The world cup said that, no, impasse in, listen, trigger alert for all you impasse out there that understand emotions and feel bad for other people. You might not want to listen to this part of the podcast because it's about a war. There's, uh, the world cup is like, not allowing Russia to compete using their flag.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Whoa. They're saying you, you take this one step further Russia and you're out of the tournament. Damn. But as of right now, they're allowed to compete, I think under the Russian Federation acronym. And then, uh, the judo, the international judo federation stripped Russian president, Vladimir Putin
Starting point is 00:36:26 of his most senior official position in world sports, citing the ongoing war conflict in Ukraine. I, this is like, um, this is very similar to, uh, DM and Caleb Williams and being like, I know it's probably not going to do anything, but if there's like a 0.001% like what if, what if Putin was like, they took away my judo black belt?
Starting point is 00:36:45 I'm out. Well, he was the president of the international. I kind of like it. He was like an honorary president. Do everything. You know what? I'm banning Vladimir Putin from part of my take. Yup.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Sanctioned and any oligarchs. Unless he wants to come on in person so that way we can kill him. Yeah, Billy will. Billy will kill him. Yeah. Okay. So you are invited onto the show,
Starting point is 00:37:03 but you have to sit in between Billy and Jake. And it's not a trap. Not a trap at all. It's not a trap. Yeah. We are sanctioning all oligarchs, Russian oligarchs and Vladimir Putin from coming on part of my take. And we are pro ghost of Kiev.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Yeah. That's one of those ones. It's weird. It doesn't matter though. It was going like three for three on misinformation. No, no, no. It doesn't matter. I saw Billy's tweet and immediately,
Starting point is 00:37:28 I want to believe it, but if like I consider myself a student of warfare and aviation war as well. I don't think anyone's got an ace in a day in like 75 years. And it's also. Right, because there hasn't been a war. Because they didn't have air to air missiles
Starting point is 00:37:43 like they have right now, which makes it virtually impossible. It was 30 hours. But. So he landed and went back up. That's also the weird. He tapped in. And then, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:51 He didn't sleep in. He switched planes. He fell back and sleep. He gassed up, grabbed some combos of 7-Eleven and went back up there with some strikes. He goes back. You know, pumping misinformation, like that's going to actually help them out.
Starting point is 00:38:04 So it doesn't really matter. Maybe if there's a 0.01% that Billy's tweet, that's true. About to go and help. Sure. I just think there's definitely a weird thing that's happening on Twitter right now of like war porn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:15 That it's like, I feel really uncomfortable with this. Yeah, sure. Stick to college basketball. I did respect the guy that was carrying the anti-tank mine away from the bridge while smoking a cigarette. Was that real? That was real.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Yeah, okay. And then there was the farmer. Wasn't it though? That could have been from any time. Yeah. No, that was real. And it's an anti-tank mine. How?
Starting point is 00:38:34 Do we know that was real? I saw it from several people on the top. Who cares? Let's just gas up the Ukrainians. Yeah, just gas. They need some gas. You know, we're also making. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Come on. We're hyping them up. But it also makes war look cool and war's not cool. War's not cool. That's the part that's a little. But Klitschko standing with a machine gun was pretty fucking badass. It is, but the situation that he's in.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Right, right. Very uncool. Right. Deeply uncool, Sitch. A lot of fake videos going around. That's the weird part. All right. Well, the weirdest part is like the people
Starting point is 00:39:07 that take a video that know that it's not from this thing. And then they just like tweeted out themselves. Well, it's the people that started. It's very, very strange. Do you think that, yeah, I mean, this is, listen. We're at a point in the world where I don't think there's anything that could ever happen. Tragedy, like an apocalypse where someone wouldn't be out
Starting point is 00:39:29 there trying to get some cloud off of it. That's just a fact. That's just how the game works now. I'm sure there'll be some fake like nuclear missile cloud going around. People will be like, oh, look, I saw these warheads down the street. Like when Matt Patricia tried to do that
Starting point is 00:39:45 to Marcus Mariota before the playoff game in Hawaii. And they're like, hey, nuclear threat inbound. That's right. That's right. Did you really do that? No. That would have been fucking awesome. We got a lot of fact checking on this.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Spotify is going to pull this podcast for sure. Fuck it. We'll be the bad boys. This episode, the only episode ever deleted. Do you think, could we do an episode of the Joe Rogan podcast, like one of the ones that they took down where we just, we do a cover episode? Yeah, I don't want to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:13 We just say all the words. Billy has to say them. Deal. Okay. Jake has to say them. Jake's quoting it. You know he wouldn't say it. Nobody's ever covered a podcast before though.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Could be lucrative. Just re-release them like Taylor Swift. All right, let's do who's back. Sorry, Hank. Who's back? You're right. I'm out of practice. I don't know why I'm out of practice.
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Starting point is 00:41:52 Kors Brewing Company, Golden Colorado, korslight.com slash take. All right, who's back of the week, Hank? My who's back of the week. This is my favorite time of the year because college baseball is back. Oh yeah. Thank you, Mitzy. Thank you, Mitzy.
Starting point is 00:42:06 We'll get to the MLB later at the end of the show. But Tommy Tanks, he's on NC State. I believe it's seven home runs in his first nine, maybe eight out of 10. Either way, he's kind of the main story, the main attraction of college baseball this year. With no baseball going on, it's getting even more heightened coverage.
Starting point is 00:42:25 This is college baseball's time to shine. Bombs. Yeah, he does. Tommy Tanks seems to have a great name. Who's the dude on, I think he's on Ole Miss, the big dude. Yeah, that guy's like seven feet tall. That dude's awesome too. Yeah, Tommy Tanks has, I saw a list of most home runs
Starting point is 00:42:41 per team. Eight home runs in seven games. Yeah, like, no, I think it's nine now. I think it is nine. Nine and eight games. Wow. We have the stats here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:50 Nine home runs, 21 ribbies, 29 RBIs and a lot. I like where you snout. Go with ribbies. Also, some people get mad when you say RBIs. Yeah, it's arts. Because technically, arts, runs, batted ins would sound weird. Ribbies. Ribbies.
Starting point is 00:43:02 It's RISB. And a 588 batting average. Wow. Are they playing real teams yet? I got a check. Tommy Tanks is on another planet. I'm not going to do that. We should just get the disinfo going,
Starting point is 00:43:14 just become a disinformation podcast. This guy, Tommy Tanks, is the guy from the college, or from the Little League World Series a few years ago that said he just loves hitting dingers. Dingers, yeah. Evansville, High Point, Longwood, and Quinnipiac. Okay. Quinnipiac.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Great schools. Legit. They scored double digit runs in six of the eight. Up to speed on baseball. Yes, absolutely. In January, February, and Connecticut. I'm sure they've been training. I feel like their baseball team is just,
Starting point is 00:43:41 it's their hockey team that's trying to stay in shape. Yeah, it's like all the cold weather teams coming down. They're pushing the extra guys in one of the three games, 12 to 10 and 10 innings. Just to get Tommy Tanks to tank their ass. All right, that's your who's back? That is, I also had storm chasers in Billy Warmode. Yeah, we covered that.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Billy Warmode. P.F.T., your who's back. My who's back of the week is Hank the Tank. Hank the Tank is back. He's been kind of exonerated. So they did DNA testing on all the bare break-ins. It turns out there are three different bears that are performing these break-ins.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Love it. So that means that Hank the Tank is no longer in jeopardy of being shot and killed. Yeah. But what about? Unless that's misinformation so that they can make you, it's okay if they kill all three. Do you think it's like,
Starting point is 00:44:28 they realized that Hank the Tank had celebrity. Yeah. If they killed him, it was gonna be a problem. Or this could be like their version of the wire where they had to invent a serial killer to get more funding. Maybe the parks department invented Hank the Tank to get people's attention on the bare break-ins.
Starting point is 00:44:46 That's what I think about the action actually. By the way, because we made a Hank the Tank shirt, go buy it in preparation for his untimely death. So we could sell more shirts. Memes tip me off that the Bengals fans found the Harambe shirt like a few days ago. Took them a couple weeks and they were very mad. Yeah, they're extremely upset.
Starting point is 00:45:10 But to be fair, we told people not to buy the shirt. We said it was a sicko shirt. And also to be fair, if you should be mad at anyone, it should be mad at the Cincinnati suit. Not if we didn't kill Harambe. It's a great litmus test of like the, like I said that again. No, it's okay.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Like the hive mind of the internet when it's like, as someone posted it, I saw it, I was like, I can't believe they made this. And then there was a lot of people being like, I know this is so fucked up. And then there was a few people that were finally like, yes, it's funny. Like, it's not that serious.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Also shout out to a few people who I assume are AWOs who snitch tagged me. That was nice of them. It's like, who the fuck made this? It is right below. It's like big cat. It's like, fuck, damn it. My other who's back of the week is my back.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Have a little back injury that I'm battling through over here. Ben Simmons? It's not good. I stopped doing my stretches because I'm lazy. Stopped doing my exercises. So today, as I was cleaning up my pile, the back got thrown out again.
Starting point is 00:46:06 But it's not all bad news because Stu Feiner had reached out to me last Thursday or Friday and invited me to do something really stupid, which I was going to do. It was... Oh, he hit me up too. I did not respond.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yeah, I replied to it. He invited me... He tried to honey-dick me with you. Did he? Yeah. He honey-dicked you? He tried. Go ahead and say it.
Starting point is 00:46:31 I think he honey-dicked me with you too. And then I'll say what he said to me. Stu Feiner reached out and was like, hey, a bunch of us are doing this half marathon. Do you want to sign up for it with us? And at the time I was like, you know what? Like, I've never wanted to do anything less in my life than half marathon.
Starting point is 00:46:45 I hate running. Running's the worst. It fucking sucks. Don't do it. But I was like, maybe I could be the first person ever to do a half marathon and not ever tell anybody about it. So I wasn't going to talk about training.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I wasn't going to talk about it after the fact. I was just going to do it and see if I could do it just to see if I could do something that I really did not want to do. But now I have a back injury. I can't... That's a week of training. It's eight weeks away.
Starting point is 00:47:12 There's no chance I can do it now. If you think canceling a dentist appointment is an electric rush, imagine canceling a half marathon. Yeah, well, I did. It feels great. He texted me was like, hey, we got this half marathon.
Starting point is 00:47:25 PFT's running it. And I just didn't respond. And then a day later he was like, you don't love me anymore. I was like, no, I still love used to. I'm just not running 13 fucking miles on Long Island in like the middle of fucking whatever March.
Starting point is 00:47:38 No, no, it was going to be May, I think. Okay, either way. The first day of May. But I'm so pumped to not have to train for this fucking thing and then running. And it would have just been the worst of all time. You got to get back on your stretches, dude. I got to get back on the stretches.
Starting point is 00:47:49 It's like 20 minutes a day that changed my life. I played pickup hoops for the first time in two years on Saturday. And my stretching before and after was longer than the time I played. Yeah. That's just what it is now. That's just life.
Starting point is 00:48:03 It's so easy to do. Yeah, this is for... Well, the tricky thing is once you do the stretches, you feel better. And then you stop doing the stretches to feel better. Correct. You're like, I'm good.
Starting point is 00:48:13 All right, my who's back of the week is James Harden, who is healed of all ailments. The new look, Sixers look pretty damn good. Also, everyone's very upset because they're going to break the record for free throws today against the Knicks. Joel Embiid shot 27 free throws and James Harden shot 10.
Starting point is 00:48:33 The game took like four hours. So this is going to be awesome though, watching James Harden. And I do think the Sixers are very good now. James Harden's perfect piece to pair with Embiid, but it's going to piss people off, especially that James Harden has now done it twice where he's skinny all of a sudden again.
Starting point is 00:48:51 He feels great and he just duped everyone. He's going to do that to the Sixers. Oh yeah, that's what's so funny about the situation is like a year from now, year and a half from now, they're going to be in the exact same situation that James Harden was with on the Knicks. But you don't care as long as you can win. If you can win and then he turns into Dick Head later,
Starting point is 00:49:08 that's fine. Doesn't matter. I think everybody in the situation, even Daryl Morey probably knows, he's like, all right, the clock has started on this right now. We have about six months of Prime Harden. Yes, let's get it done. Are there any strip clubs in Philadelphia?
Starting point is 00:49:22 Yes. There are? There's a BYOB strip club in Philadelphia. Oh yeah, so that's like two months now. I love it. The clock's at two months. And then my other who's back is Buzzfeed, because sometimes you just get lucky
Starting point is 00:49:32 you're online at the right time when a tweet gets posted and you're like, you know this is going to get deleted. Buzzfeed tweeted it to us. I saw Billy's tweet on Thursday. Yeah, you're like, oh, God put me here in this moment, knowing that this won't be here for the next five minutes from now. They tweeted, nurses, what is the most haunting thing
Starting point is 00:49:53 someone has said to you on their deathbed? Oh my God. That's going to be a hell of a slideshow. You won't believe what these people said right before they died. How crazy is that tweet? Take this quiz to find out what sort of haunting deathbed statement you are.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I'm not even taking it from the perspective of like the like Twitter cancellation, like, fuck dead speed or Buzzfeed. I almost said dead speed. Buzzfeed. I love how Buzzfeed just goes so fucking hard in the paint. They're like, we will make content out of anything. I wish they kept that up.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Like, why not? Like, go. I even said, I was like, do do paramedics. Like, paramedics, what's the like grossest dead body you've ever come across? Just like the grossest thing you've seen. Yeah, police officers. Tell us.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah. What's the most gruesome crime? What's the most gruesome car crash you've ever seen, paramedics? And there's definitely, the thing is, there's a market out there for it. Yeah, I would have clicked. If they had made that article, they definitely
Starting point is 00:50:47 would have gotten all the traffic from it. And everybody would have like pretended to dunk on it. But the reality is, people would have clicked on it because they're interested in the creepiest shit ever. Yeah, Buzzfeed, go for it. This is why, what was the old website? Not LiveLeak, Faces of Death. Remember that?
Starting point is 00:51:04 Yeah, that was a bad one. That was a website for a while, folks. I don't know if it's still there. That shit, you were just going on to see dead bodies. There's a Reddit thread about people's last words. Really? Yeah, and there's a ton of them. So that's probably what they did out there.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, it's usually, it was all about people confessing to crimes they did when they were younger that they'd gotten away with. And then one guy said where the money was hidden. Wait, Billy, pull up the thread. And then later on in this episode, this is a cliffhanger, we're going to do the Buzzfeed article. OK, cool.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah, that would be awesome, though. Like right before you die, just whisper to the nurse, I did it. It's like, then they got to figure out what the fuck you did. Can we get a backtrack real quick to the dead body website? Yeah, FacesofDeath.com, you know, or Rotten. This is, you know, Rotten, yeah. Rotten was really bad.
Starting point is 00:51:47 This is early internet. Early internet. I don't know if they, I don't even want to look up on it, on them anymore. It was just like, you could just see the, it was basically, it was actually Rex Chapman's Twitter feed. Yeah, it was like, watch this guy get electrocuted, block of charge.
Starting point is 00:52:03 It was, you'd like, you'd like go over to your friend's house, the friend that had like absentee parents that were never around. After school, and then you would go on the internet, type in Rotten.com, and then your fucked up friend would be like, look at this guy, I got shot in the face with a shotgun. And then all the sane people in the room would be like, OK, we're leaving. Yeah, no, we don't want to look.
Starting point is 00:52:23 And then he'd look and be like, no, I shouldn't have looked. I peaked, and then I was like, I'm above this. This was terrible. Yeah, I'm going to pretend that I'm better than you. And you'd have one kid who would just be like, would love it. And he'd be like, this is fucked up. Facesofdeath.com. Wasn't there a curb thing where he got a death book?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Did I make that up? I don't know about that. I was more of a, I was a Mulletsgalore.com guy. Yeah, Hank was a meat spin guy. I've said meat spin a few times. People are like, definitely. I mean, I meat spin my friends all the time. It was funny.
Starting point is 00:52:52 It was the original one. Yeah, said it is your home page, you know. I was a lively guy, but not, I mean, that had crazy shit. Yeah, lively kind of little that. I didn't think I was going on there for dead bodies. Am I? I was a Justin TV guy. Go there, watch some pre-season NFL games.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Check out the chat. The chat on the Justin TV streams was always electric. That was Twitch, right? It turned into Twitch, yeah. It was Twitch before Twitch was. Maybe? No, it literally, like. No, it did, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:19 It turned into, the company became Twitch. But originally it was just like people broadcasting, like a, I don't know, Univision. Like, oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, you have just like illegal streams for everywhere on the planet. So I think I've Barrenstein Baird myself. Faces of Death was a movie.
Starting point is 00:53:34 I think I'm thinking of Rotten. You're thinking of Rotten. Faces of Death was a video series. That's right. One day I rented a house out in Dewey Beach, Delaware. Went out there with my friends and they had an entire VHS collection of all the faces of death.
Starting point is 00:53:47 That's right, that's right. It was yes, okay. Yeah, Dewey Beach is a fucked up place. All right, Billy, or who's back? My who's back was the Klitschko brothers, but I think I'm gonna bring back the spreadsheet from March Madness. Oh, good.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Look, I know this is ridiculous. Here's how I bet every team it only lost 25 cents. I'm thinking, I'm gonna take all the favorites from the first round and bet all of them to win the whole thing as a future and then bet the money line on all of the underdogs so that the money lines pays for all the future bets.
Starting point is 00:54:22 Okay, but what if they lose? Not like it, let Billy cook. This makes sense. But then if they lose, then in the next round bet the future on those teams. Can I ask you a question though? Yeah. Not about the spreadsheet,
Starting point is 00:54:35 but have you thought about just gambling responsibly? But like, I've been doing one pick a day. It's fun because you're like, this is my one game. I feel strongly about this. I like to bet on this game, not betting on a game being like, well, if they win, I can also win this one and that one because you're never gambling.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Well, I bet. You're just, you found a way to just make hedging. Lifestyle. It's arbitrage. Yeah, he's just hedging constantly. I have been following college basketball as closely as some guys so I really don't have. You think that I fall a soccer when I bet on it?
Starting point is 00:55:15 You don't actually follow them. No, I mean you can't. You guys wanna do a quick talking soccer? Yeah, sure. Yeah, what's up? Something happened. Oh yeah, the caribou cup, the goalie came out and Bajio didn't select the fifth deck.
Starting point is 00:55:26 What does that mean? Let's hit it really high over. Roberto Bajio. Yeah, you don't have to be an expert. I mean, you could be an expert, but even if you're an expert, I don't think you'll win. I just feel like this way, I feel like I have control. You know, I should have stopped you.
Starting point is 00:55:38 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Okay, so I was with you until you got to the second round and then in the second round, you then bet futures on any underdog that wins. You do the same thing, yeah. That isn't already factored into your, so if anyone, if any of the underdogs win, then you bet a future on that.
Starting point is 00:55:56 This sounds like what's gonna happen is you're eventually gonna have one of your futures hit and you're gonna make back like 15% of everything that you've lost. Right, yeah, so you will. Like Gonzaga's gonna win it all. No, or Kentucky's gonna win it all and you're gonna get them at six to one
Starting point is 00:56:10 and you're gonna win back. But I'll do the math with the spreadsheet and figure out how to allocate the money so that it all counts as allocations. And if I can figure out the situation where I always make money, then I'm gonna ask for a loan. Okay, I like it.
Starting point is 00:56:24 And I'll give you that loan. Perfect. How much money? I don't think that that exists, though. Billy, you can't figure out a way. What's your, like, there's no way you can tell. Don't, as you can. What's the optimal bankroll, Billy?
Starting point is 00:56:36 Tell me. Don't let them do this long process. The thing is, I know it doesn't exist, but it's like chasing big foot. Once I find the system. Everything didn't exist until someone figured it out. Right. Why don't you just try to find this?
Starting point is 00:56:46 Now we get like millions of dollars, I think we need millions of dollars. I'm gonna put it all into the spreadsheet. You're already saying millions of dollars. Steve Jobs created it. Don't you think someone else would have done this? Right, but no, everyone thinks it's impossible. They're not as smart as Billy.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Exactly. You're right, you're right. Possible is nothing. But again, why wouldn't you just put in all your energy into like one game and having an opinion about one game? Because that's what everyone does. If you go one and oh, you can just walk away from the entire tournament.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Billy wants to break Vegas. How about that? I'm trying to break Vegas. Billy breaks Vegas. I believe in you, Billy. Good luck. You just tell me how much you need in a loan. The only difference between a genius,
Starting point is 00:57:19 and what's that quote I once said? I forgot about that. The only difference between a genius and Billy is the genius doesn't forget the quote. Could be the quote. No, I like that quote though. The only difference between being a genius and what's the rest of that quote that I said one time?
Starting point is 00:57:36 Dash Billy football. It's a great quote. I want you to do it, Billy. We'll get an update on it. We'll figure it out. The only difference between genius and insanity is the genius has limits. That's not a good quote for you.
Starting point is 00:57:48 No, it's like the only difference between the... So you're insane. You're saying you're insane. No, yeah. It's no limit to Billy's insanity, which makes him a genius. It's gonna be fun. Yeah, I look forward to it.
Starting point is 00:58:02 You're gonna break Vegas. I'm gonna ride with Billy. I said I bankroll, you didn't even have to... I don't even have to see the number. You don't have to give me the pitch deck. You just have to be like, yo, I got away. I will bankroll. Sweet.
Starting point is 00:58:13 We got a brand it though. We gotta give it like Billy's... Billy budget betting. Billy's budget betting. No, you need a triple B. I got a couple YouTube videos there. You got a triple B bitch? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Triple B. You big back bitch? Or it could be a big baller. It could be a big baller. Big baller Bill. Or it could be the better business bureau. Big ballers make big bets. Yeah, they don't make...
Starting point is 00:58:37 I'm gonna hedge and hopefully win 15... No, I'm not gonna... I'm bankrolling. I'm gonna be... Will you let me be devil's advocate when you show me the final plan? Yes. Okay, great.
Starting point is 00:58:47 That's all I want. One final... If you gave me a thousand dollars, big hat, then I said I can give you back a thousand and two dollars. Yeah, no, that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna give you a thousand dollars, Billy. You're gonna have to put it out in there. I mean, that's 2% return.
Starting point is 00:58:59 That's what I'm saying. That's great return. No, it's not. No, it's not. No, it's not. Did you say a hundred? He said a thousand dollars. Oh, he said a thousand dollars.
Starting point is 00:59:09 A thousand and two. Okay, my bad. It's still a profit. It's point... You know what? That's on them for not betting enough to make enough money in the profit. If you only put that a thousand,
Starting point is 00:59:19 he can only get you $10 back. I actually don't think he would keep up with inflation if I gave you that thousand dollars on March 1st and you gave me back a thousand and two, April 15th. We gotta give it a good label though, like Billy's Quantum Computing. I'm bankrolling you. I don't need anything more.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I don't believe it, but I believe it enough to bankroll you. It's like an impossible word problem that you're never gonna figure out, but it's a fun exercise. No, no, see, I don't like this, because I'm bankrolling you. And you just told me that it's not gonna work.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Okay, here's what we call it. Billy's Banned in Vegas betting formula. It's Banned in Vegas. You just say that it's not legal. Casinos hate him. Banned everywhere. Yeah, casinos hate this guy. Can't go anywhere.
Starting point is 00:59:58 Try not to come. Tons of locals in your five mile radius. All right, Jake, you're who's back. My who's back is respecting Steph Curry. I know we try to come up with these quarterly reminders, but there was a viral video today. Saw it, yeah. His warm ups, yeah, no defenders, they did lose.
Starting point is 01:00:19 He was just casually singing threes from the logo. He's so good. What he did in that exercise, he started with like a sky high finger roll, and then he would take two steps back, hit shots until he got to half court, then two shots in, and end with another sky high finger roll.
Starting point is 01:00:33 It's crazy. I don't think he hit the rim a single time. It's gotta be so much fun. Like think about going on a basketball court. It's been like, whatever I shoot, it's going in. That would be so much fun. You think you'd ever get bored though? No, he just, no, definitely not.
Starting point is 01:00:48 I think I'd get bored. That's why I'm not an NBA player. No, it would be so much fun. Every game would be so much fun. Like what cool shit am I gonna do this time? Also, John Moran's 360 layup. I was a full 360. I don't know, against the Bulls was,
Starting point is 01:01:03 he looked like he was in the matrix. He was mind bending. You want to fix the dunk contest? Make it a layup contest. Holy fuck, that was insane. All right, let's get to Coach Prime. Dion Sanders will do a little MLB lockout on the other side. Maybe also talk about who's going to be announcing
Starting point is 01:01:19 what games next year. And also the Billy's, what, death on the deathbed. Second on the deathbed. Hand up. I botched the question to Dion Sanders. And in retrospect, I'm like, why did I not know that? I asked him if he ever raced against Randy Moss at Florida State because Randy Moss went to Florida State
Starting point is 01:01:39 for like, I don't know, a month or so. And I thought that it was during the end, but the bottom line is I'm going to throw Koli under the bus because he told me to ask that question. Yeah, afterwards I actually went up to you. I was like, was that a bit that I didn't understand? No, Koli was like, you should ask him this question. I was like, good call, Koli.
Starting point is 01:01:54 Turns out Koli's trying to get me fired. Yeah. All right, we got a quick ad before we get to Dion Sanders. Yeah, before we get to Coach Prime, want to talk to you guys about her great friends over at LifeLock. That's right. Norton LifeLock is here to help you.
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Starting point is 01:03:14 He is recurring, I don't know, 15 times now. Yeah, it's been a few times now. And plus, it's Black History Month, so you guys needed me. Yes, that is the voice, the iconic voice of Dion Sanders. It will it be when we run on Monday? Yes, last day. Oh, it's last day. OK, we're having a lot to close out in the last few months.
Starting point is 01:03:31 We've got a short month, so you've got to get me in. It's a buzzer beater. You hit the buzzer beater on Black History Month. Right, there you go. Yeah, it is Coach Prime, Dion Sanders. Coach Prime fall season is out now, Tuesdays and Thursdays. You can watch live on YouTube on the Barstool Sports Channel. I watch both episodes.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I love the show. I do have to talk to you, though, about, let's start here. You were wearing a hat on episode two. It matched. It was basically, I don't know if you saw the picture, PFT. It was. PFT can't say anything right now. Why is that?
Starting point is 01:04:06 Expand on that thought. I can't. He said, I'm wearing a hat. Yeah. And when he said that, my eyes went over to your hat. Yeah. And that's it. I am wearing a hat.
Starting point is 01:04:16 It looks like a Newsy's slash Peaky Blinders slash Paperboy. I like that. You're I like that too. Yeah, you again, you're wearing a ridiculous hat. So you have to defend him. It's a ridiculous hack. Actually, this is the anti-cancer hat in the NFL. So are you pro cancer?
Starting point is 01:04:32 No, I'm not. OK. I'm anti. But yeah, the hat was old school swag was what you called it? Old school swag. OK. It was nice. I love the show, though.
Starting point is 01:04:41 If you don't watch it, it is very, very good. Beers is unbelievable. I mean, the doubleness in him is unbelievable. You would not think. And oftentimes, Sam, we call him Sam Malone, my trusty right hand man, he text me a picture of Dana chugging beers and he always allude to, this is your producer. Yes.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Yeah, that's I actually said it last night, like watching the show and being like, wow, this is an incredible documentary inside look into what you guys are building and knowing that the guy behind all of it is the beer guy. It should win an Academy Award. No, honestly, honestly, he's got to win something. It's crazy.
Starting point is 01:05:22 It is. It's crazy that Dana has the ability to flip a switch where he's, oh my god. He's able to produce some decent content sometimes. He's got a good eye for things. But then you know the second that he hits the power button on that camera, he's just like grabbing the nearest beer and dumping it down his shirt.
Starting point is 01:05:37 And that's like, that's what he does. He's a different guy in Jackson. He's two different men. What's he like down there? Is he less snakeish? He's not snakeish. He's really locked in. He's focused.
Starting point is 01:05:47 He's a leader of his bar stools men and men and women. Do you think the locker room has accepted Dana? Oh, they love him. Now, he's a hit. In terms of Dana, like you don't let him drink down there, right? Well, I can't control this grown man. But me and Mama Beers have joined together.
Starting point is 01:06:06 To try to get him to curb it? Yeah, to do right. So if you and Mama Beers are like the angel on his shoulder, there's got to be a devil. Who's the devil? Bar stools. Yeah, I think it's Dana himself. It's just like a smaller version of Dana.
Starting point is 01:06:20 It's like, no drink. Do the beer tweet, Dana. Like, maybe me? Dana. Oh, Dana. Go ahead, buddy. Come on. Don't go for it.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Don't flip. Don't jump. Don't jump. He's got to. It's our show. Come on, Dana. Do it, Dana. Do the beer, Dana.
Starting point is 01:06:36 I'm here. You're in office, right? I'm right here. Dana, I'm right here. Dana, I'm right here. Dana, she's your producer for all seasons. You got to be kidding me. It was that easy.
Starting point is 01:06:49 It's 11 AM. Who is this guy? Finish it. It's in the morning time. Oh, my god. I've never seen this live. Oh, that's your first experience watching beer. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Is it bottomless over here? No, no. Is it bottomless? Come on, Dana. Come on, Dana. No, you can't do it. Just one more. You can't do it.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Just one more. Dana, come on. Who is this guy, man? It's 11 o'clock in the morning. Who is this man? Oh, man. Man, I got a comb on my beard. Oh, my god.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Is it that easy to get him back? Yeah, there's no real rhyme or reason to it. If you just say the word beer to me, I guess I got a beer. No, no! Oh, no. Another one. You're coming in, no, bitch.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Just one more. Oh, my god. Come on, man. There's a lot to do today. One more beer. There's no way to know. There's no way to know. One more beer.
Starting point is 01:07:41 The show in the audience is not about me. I'm cold. Come on, Dana. One more beer. You got this. It's a sec. I'm cold. I'm dark.
Starting point is 01:07:49 I'm not doing everything. I'm not doing it. All right. Another one in my back pocket. You got to be kidding me. One more beer. I've never seen him this way. Dude, Dana...
Starting point is 01:07:57 To not address him until the end of the show, but it's... His presence just... You just wanted to drug a beer. Well, he's like... He's a very specific type of pet that has one use. It's like, if your dog would only, you know, let you give a belly rub. Dana's one thing is, if I see beer, I chug beer. I've never seen this guy.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Chug that last one. Come on. He's an awesome guy. mama... mama beers... He's drinking again. He's drinking again. No, I'm sitting in here...
Starting point is 01:08:23 doing a podcast. Podcast and I've never seen this Dana beers in my life. I had to call you Dan is just holding up a beer and throwing it over to him and he's downing it like I've never seen this guy That's a great sound crispy boy. Oh My god, now, do you know that Dana actually put a beer up his butt once? Oh, it's getting bad look We will I'll call you back mama beers Okay
Starting point is 01:09:05 Those guys are not good for you. They're not good for your son. I'll talk to you later. My Did you put the like the funnel up your butt? Dana it was a funnel Important things did you go wait wait? No, no, did you go to home depot and like buy a new funnel and take it home? Knowing that you were gonna put up hold on hold on. Hold on. He put a funnel In his butt drunk of beer. Yep. Coach. Did you ever use that? That's your score zacy That's your Spielberg. That's him right there
Starting point is 01:09:41 That's your Spielberg. What did you do with the funnel afterwards? Coach prime. This is not who you think it is. All right. Oh my god. Oh, no, it is. It's Dana beers Not Dana B. He holds the beer up. Then just flipped it over It was that easy Oh my god All right, we'll let Dana cool first Sam. You've been right. You can sip it and we'll let you cool, but it is Uh, a great documentary. I have some questions though about it. Please you do something as genius is when you hit a point And you I could see it in your eyes where you like, oh, that was good
Starting point is 01:10:14 What I just said and you repeat it. Yeah, because then it like really hits it Hits at home. So yeah, your speeches are always some of those kids are Some of them are like hanging on everywhere. You can see it in the eyes. Some of them are like Shut up. Let's let's go. I didn't play right. We ready to go play him Shallows one want my son is one of those guys. Do you care? He's probably heard it so much No, he's not yet heard it. He just want to go play He's just always going to do something crazy. There's that arc though. You bring it up to like a high bubble And then you just crash that it's like if it's a pot that you're boiling water in
Starting point is 01:10:47 It gets up starts to boil boil and you just smash it knocking on the floor and then everybody goes nuts I'm just ready for them. I just want to provoke thought and get them to a point where I got them Mentally and then they could go out there and exude the physicality of it Who gave the best speeches to you when you were in the nfl or college? I didn't have big speech givers Really? No, we didn't have Bobby Bowden was not a speech. No, he just laid out a few points that you had to go do and you You had to pull off in the game and you're going to win if you did those several things But no, I'd never played for great Guys that really relied on speeches. Yeah when you were back at florida state
Starting point is 01:11:24 Were you teammates with randy moss for like a like a week? No, no, he was ap That means afterprime. Okay. It was after prime. I because I was curious if you ever had a chance to race him in your prime Because you said You said you're younger than you. Yes. Yeah, but I thought that there was like a short period of time that maybe you were around him Do you think Your prime versus prime heads up who wins in a race? Uh, I'm never gonna say I'm gonna lose a race. One of the guys that probably would have presented the biggest challenge Probably would have been daryl green. Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:53 Yeah, I just went to another day too, man And he probably would have been one that presented the most challenge in in the primes You think it was like you and him two fastest players in the league for a while? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, not just see it's like randy To his credit rent for randy is arguably the best that ever played a position But randy was fast on the field. It's a lot of fast guys that are not fast on the field Like you can't see them play with their speed Daryl green played with it. Yeah, he played with it and a few guys Play with it, you know, a lot of guys running there before at the combine, but they don't play with it
Starting point is 01:12:26 Yeah, and then it's it's always fun to see like I love watching all the compilations of like defenders chasing down Speedsters in the open field and daryl green used to do stuff like that. Is there any guy that you you ever chased down? You hit him and he was like, oh, that's embarrassing. I just No, they don't say that but you you go get them and they know They know it's over their their their reputation is done. Um, one of one of my favorite parts about this, uh You know fall season and and coach prime is like you can see the change that's happening At jackson state and I I'm gonna I'm gonna you're a humble guy. I'm not really but
Starting point is 01:13:05 I am gonna say like it's incredible to watch it even the little things like the it's a big thing But the field changing the field the field you guys practice on in the first Year was garbage. Yeah, it was true garbage Understatement when you had to take a bus 15 minutes away to go practice at a high school field And you're a college. Yeah, it was good. The pot hose wasn't even the worst thing It was a big fall-off on the side of the field that if someone ran a fade And ran off the side of field they they're gonna you go dislocate your leg or something's going and they said it actually happened That's crazy. They said then he had uh, like the what is the things that the water go in on the side of the field
Starting point is 01:13:44 The gutters or something. It was horrible. And so you but now you have a new synthetic beautiful Thanks to walmart. Okay. So that was walmart. So you're and then what's the next thing you're gonna upgrade because I We got a new locker room almost done. I love it. I love seeing it because you can see Um, you know a lot of times you watch college football and a lot of the coaches will say well It's about building men and all this stuff. It's like, okay. That's kind of lip service You know, I mean like alabama's they're trying to win national titles But you're doing things day to day that we need where you watch you were watching You know like press conferences with one of your players being like look how many times he says the word man
Starting point is 01:14:24 Or look how many times he um, he was an eye guy. I I I I like dude. Come on, man Come on and and those type of little things. So so locker room. What else is what's next after that? Uh, well, we First of all, we had to Rehaul of equipment under armor came in didn't uniform. So we have several uniforms. There are three more coming this year We get on the phone personally cut deals with under armor and our under armor Zenith as well as uh, right now for the helmets two different helmet companies The equipment is so many things NFL did a great job of helping us with some of the equipment in the field equipment Because you take those tackling damage and sleds you take all this stuff for granted
Starting point is 01:15:05 We got a joining field that now It's adjacent to the turf field. It's a grass field that we could practice Two groups simultaneously and get special teams done at the same time. The offensive defense is going There's so many little things like that cafeteria Uh, trying to build a whole inclusive cafeteria right now so that we don't have to go across campus and the kids eat right there Self-encompassing with ourselves instead of sharing it with another sport or whatever All those are huge things. I saw that you're also playing hardball with with some of the scheduling stuff that you have going on Yeah, because you it actually became apparent to you and and there's no way that
Starting point is 01:15:42 Yeah, it's a hustle exactly people don't realize that until like, you know, you're you're presence there has uh, You know aside from the stuff that has happened on the field But the attention that you attract just by being you there I think has educated a lot of people as to how a lot of these things negatively affect the children That are the kids that go to school there. So like the scheduling thing you're losing money on some of these trips, right money and uh tremendously like This particular classic that you're talking about first of all, why would two Colleges need a promoter
Starting point is 01:16:17 You're two colleges and you have ad's. Why would you need a promoter? That's number one Secondly, I think the fee was like over 30 years six million dollars like that's peanuts So by the time you take several buses seven buses for real for the band four buses for the players a couple for the People of assistance or whatever Hotel accommodations food you're out of that You're that 180 200 ground you're out of that So you didn't make nothing you so you really came up down a blank trip And we got to stop that foolish is the first thing we need to take care of
Starting point is 01:16:49 As hbc uses the business aspect of everything and that's something that we're changing right now We're taking care of business. Do you do you think that the um your school and all the schools you play against? Are they starting to come around to like because I know that when you showed up It's like hey, we're changing things and maybe people didn't people don't love change right away. Oh my god now you own it Yeah, how you understand it like they have a way of doing it So you're the most loved by this section of people But you're the most hated by this section of people because when you start changing things you expect jobs right and security and stability And the hustle that's been going on for years. So I have people
Starting point is 01:17:24 Become more like hey look what coach prime is doing here is like this is good Yeah, good things people on the outside and some people on the inside coaches are like are calling like amen Thank you for saying that because we dealing with the same thing, but we can't say it right so that's a that's a positive Yeah, I mean it is you're in a unique situation where You know you you do have the power to call You know get a deal where you can get a new field and and say about talk about all these things knowing That you're good the biggest power is having stability that you don't need it Right because now you could say what needs to be said and you're not afraid of losing the job because
Starting point is 01:18:04 All right I'm good, right. You don't have to worry about I'm good try to smooth anything over. Yeah, right You're not you gotta make any friends. I just want to work for the kids and do was right by the kids like like You guys heard it during the pandemic. You heard all the fortune 500 Businesses say we're doing this for hbcu. Should we doing that right? What did the money go right where did the change I I hadn't seen any change went through like three middlemen So no, no, I want to know where where did it go? I'm hearing all these endowments to all these hbcu's Where did it go? Right?
Starting point is 01:18:40 Somebody raised their hand and say okay, we did get the check and this is what we did I haven't heard that yet right and you and you are doing things that you can see day to day tangibly Right every day right so you're a smart guy. You've always got a plan and we think but first of all We think bar stools as well because now you could actually see the change right if not for that you can see it You're you're you're always a smart guy. You've always had like you Whenever I see you operate. I'm like that's the guy that's thinking like three steps ahead You have an ultimate goal that you want to get to what is that? Well, I want to see these kids have equality man. I want to see them have opportunity
Starting point is 01:19:14 Just like something simple as having you a pro day a pro day is something simple to you But it's not simple to hbcu's. It's not simple to have a pro day and scouts actually come to see what you got So I even took it a step farther. I said, you know what? Let's just have I I want Grambling southern those schools are in Louisiana. They even come to our pro day So the NFL said no, they can't come to your pro day because they have to stay in state I say so they have to go to LSU's pro day And when they get ready to run the hundreds or forties or whatever they do the drills Nobody's going to look up at them because they're waiting for the LSU guys
Starting point is 01:19:49 So that's what you're putting our kids through because that's how it's been for life So we're having several schools in mississippi come to our pro day But i'm fighting for other hbcu's to come to one particular pro day So you see yourself sticking around in the hbcu environment for a long time I see myself making change Immediately where I am today. I don't look to tomorrow, man. I got him. I'm gonna miss the day if I look to tomorrow Yeah, the um the the pro day stuff and like having scouts come to your To your camp and to your practices
Starting point is 01:20:22 I it's like the beauty of sports when I when I'm watching you and how you coach Because you know sports are not the most important thing in life, but You said it yourself like letting these kids feel what it feels like to win and to have success Can build them forever forever and it's just like that's the those are the building blocks because like having a day where It's like oh, I did this I accomplished this now You know how to do something else and it's truly and these guys are smart to tough the faster discipline It may come a day that that you guys or Erica may say you know what I see the guys you're producing from your program Two employees they can start at 75 grand a piece or whatever give me two that you'd really trust
Starting point is 01:21:04 I Like that right I want that I want these kids to go into the workforce and make a difference man because 95 percent of them are not going pro That's for every program 95 percent of the kids play for you are not going pro Do you have how many pros do you have on your roster though right now? I know that's a terrible question That just came out or on the roster that are like you you could say you don't have to say names But you're like these off the top of your head how many kids you think can play in the nfl that play for me right now
Starting point is 01:21:32 Yes, 15. Wow. Yeah, that's crazy. That's gotta be 15. Was it zero when you got there when I got there was none Yeah, that's crazy. None. I mean we we've had the top two classes in fcs the last two years um Recruiting classes and we bring in all these Let me tell you something the portal now man. It's it's free agency. Yeah I feel bad for high school kids because we're only taking like four to five high school kids this year and they're getting the They're getting a short end of the stick. Yeah, the ncaa is going to have to come in and say We got to increase the scholarship for high school kids because why would you take the chance when you already have
Starting point is 01:22:11 Plethora of kids that's already been to college made the adjustment and you know what's wrong with them Or you know what's right with them and you'd rather go there instead of risk at a high school kid Yeah, 22 year old versus 18 year olds a very big difference very big difference Yeah, coaches are getting fired in a couple years So you're trying to get guys that ready to help you now right instead of no one's red shirts anymore Yeah, you've said that uh If a major program wants to lose recruit to you Let that recruit go to an h bcu homecoming, right? It's crazy man. So, um, we're white guys
Starting point is 01:22:44 Yeah, we probably I'm going to guess that there are a couple white guys that are also listening to the show But those guys right there are white, right? Yep, yeah beers and we got it. We got a few years Egyptian shout out a few whiteies in here Can you explain to us? What is different about the culture man about those homecoming weekends the pageantry the culture They don't just come from the game They come for the moment. It's like a dern award show. That's the closest thing that I could appropriate it to right like a
Starting point is 01:23:14 Uh, not just a bt awards like american music awards like a grammy's That's what a hbcu homecoming is and then you happen to have two events happening on the same day Which is the game in the halftime performances by the bands It's unbelievable, man But the party it's like a darn bowl like the bow guy game that you guys are going to do in arizona It's like a party for the whole week. It's a week long festivities. I never experienced that at florida state I didn't even you didn't even give a darn about homecoming. It's just another game You gotta you you you recruit a garbage opponent so you can beat the brakes off of him and that's what it is
Starting point is 01:23:51 It's totally different, man I mean, what's the strip called down the center of jackson? They just call it the set or whatever the strip that Down the whole center of jackson's school date is wasted right? Yeah, his eyes are just completely You finish your third beer Did you finish your third beer? I looked at him and I saw his soul. Yeah Like nobody home dude. Nobody was there. I looked at him so I saw
Starting point is 01:24:13 I don't think dana even realized that you were talking to him You guys were just staring at me in the eyes of dana was like lost in space. You know what? I think I think I got No one more No, I got one more All right, listen, that will help you. I'll put you up the the hbcu homecoming week is do sound like a lot of fun It's not no, it is crazy. But I didn't know. Yeah, I didn't know myself I drove my golf cart through there checking on my kids checking on not my sons But checking on my football players because I didn't want them to get caught up in the mayhem
Starting point is 01:24:48 Man, it was ridiculous. Thousands of people just lined the whole school corridor and just it's unbelievable It's crazy, man. It's I kind of want to go now. Then we got 60,000 of the game. Yeah. Yeah, didn't top it off. Are you looking for a kicker? Yeah Maybe bring me down on that. No, no, we signed a four star kicker. Oh, we did I seem like you signed him in the last four seconds. No When you say you look for a kicker, you always use a kicker punter But a kicker I signed the guy that's pretty darn good. Okay. He's really good
Starting point is 01:25:22 Can you can you explain how the travis hunter who if you if you don't fall college football? He was the number one recruit in the nation signed with jackson state uh everyone Then accused barstool of paying for which is not true. You guys gave him two million, right? Yeah, three and i am i I gave him the extra million on top My close a deal my counter to that is if barstool was handing out money Kale williams would be a wisconsin badger because i and michigan would have awesome recruits
Starting point is 01:25:52 Oh my god, it would be insane. I think that would probably happen first So how did you get how did you get the number one like how did that process go because he came to a homecoming? That's it. No that that that was 70 percent of it. Really? We just couldn't mess up the other 30, right? That was 70 percent. He was committed to your own modern. Yeah, people were very upset. I don't why I don't care very upset They don't own the kid. They probably should have hired you if they wanted. Yeah, there you go. Yeah, but but how like what was the pitch? It wasn't a pitch like we don't pitch kids We just really you know what guys you're gonna have an opportunity to come here and get education and place them during good football And have a good time and we're gonna teach you
Starting point is 01:26:32 Travis mother just texts me about I wanted you to sit down and talk to him about this this nothing bad Because he's a great kid. You're talking about working ethic and all that unbelievable doing great in school He's already on campus and I see I promise you mama You sent me a boy. You're gonna get back a man in three years Before he goes pro and that's that's probably the only promise that we have. Yeah We don't promise you you're gonna get a certain number like the number thing Travis was going to wear one. I think he wanted one didn't he wanted this high school number So he did it with the other kid that was wearing 12. They did that. We don't handle all that
Starting point is 01:27:04 I don't do it during what number you are And he's just a good kid. He didn't have to be promised nothing. You know, we didn't have to try to buy me We don't have any money to buy him first of all but the kid just Has an insatiable appetite to play football And he can do it like what I've seen thus far The kids are stud, man His work ethic he's working out and putting on weight getting bigger and stronger faster
Starting point is 01:27:29 But even in the mat drills on Tuesdays Thursdays to do this the first one in the line I mean ready to go getting on the the older kids like come on get up on the line get your hands off your knees He's dead. I had him in the office the other day I said, why did you go to the left corner because I saw you at left corner instead of right? What I just want to know your thought process. He said coach, I don't give it there where you put me I'm gonna cover and matter of fact, just let me play man. I'm good. Give me the best Opposing teams the best player. That's the way he thinks already And it's going to have a big impact because he's gonna go to the nfl
Starting point is 01:28:01 And then every day every time he's on a prime time game. He's gonna say jackson state And it's like everything snowballs from there. So it's it's it's monumental. I know that when it happened that day Was like it rocked the World I felt really good about it, but I didn't want to go all in right But I said it's it's pretty good chance. We're gonna have a we're gonna shock the world Yeah, and you did and we shocked the world you did we changed the whole recruiting game now I'm happy with all hbcu's getting three and four stars not necessarily five stars But we got to change the business practices on campuses
Starting point is 01:28:35 We got to change the whole thought process of how we function as a business for hbcu's now to keep those kids You saw some of the bigger schools and uh the fan bases and a couple coaches like kind of indirectly Seeming frustrated with the fact that you took one of the best players to to go to your school I got something. I want to challenge them. Uh-huh. Can I do that? Absolutely. Okay. Tell me this now You got the nl deals and we all know about the nl name image and likeness now nl is is is like an endorsement deal I'm seeing kids that the colleges proclaim
Starting point is 01:29:11 They have a million dollars worth endorsements or half a million dollars Tell me what have you seen them endorse? Mm-hmm Did you I know um Hinden hunker was doing an advertisement for apartment complex, but it was like not much money at all Yeah, a lot of raisin canes what i'm saying like what have you seen? Yeah, that's about it quantified it now see when you see our kids Or or my son
Starting point is 01:29:35 And they say you have an endorsement for beats or tarmac you see it You see the tangible endorsements But how can you get a million dollars worth endorsements for a kid at these power fives and nobody sees nothing they're on Yeah, so is that really endorsements or there's some kick that it's just a kick down money being paid from an age from not an age And i'm sorry from a booster. Yeah, so we don't have boosters like that because you can say like i'm paying this person to do Advertisements for my car dealership, but we haven't seen and then you just never produced the commercial We've never seen it at least if you say you're gonna do something We got to at least see it the nca should hold people accountable
Starting point is 01:30:13 If they say they got a deal and they making this show it So so you got a little bit of pushback from some of these other power five coaches. What about From within the hbcu community. No, was it like universal support or were there? No universal that was like jealous that you got no universal support because they feel like now see now what hbcu's are doing Once upon a time they didn't feel like they could get that kid So they never offered a kid. They never offered me coming out of high school They never offered some of the guys coming out. They never thought they could get it Now they're throwing out offers to people and trying to get them on camp. They believe now that they got a shot
Starting point is 01:30:47 That's the difference. It takes some guts too for travis hunter and kevin colman and those guys They're kind of like leading what what feels like it could be a major See change in college football. They're kind of the ones that are saying, you know what we're going to be the first to do it We're going to go out on our own and try to start something new Could you get the sense from I know you talked about travis a little bit But like with kevin could you get the sense that like these are guys that are willing to kind of Go out and start something that nobody else has really done before that's what they've done and that's the kind of players that they are Everybody don't have that dna
Starting point is 01:31:24 Everybody don't have that and you got to be willing to say, you know what this is where I come from But I know this is where i'm going so in between time i'm going to do this because I know is inevitable that I get here Anyway, you're doing a pretty good job bringing people in to speak to the kids. You brought in one of my heroes actually britney renner I we don't do it anymore. That's a good thing. Yeah. Yeah, you don't do it Bonky. I know I'm just a massive fan of her work. I could get on. Yeah, I could get on your show Dft would love how did how did you get in touch with her? She was a dear friend of my son my oldest son jr. How dear
Starting point is 01:32:03 Not that dear. Okay Brittany is one of the smartest young women that you ever want to sit down and have a conversation with Matter of fact, i'm trying to get her her show here. Oh, she needs to be on bars. Okay. She needs to let her go Excuse me. Did she need a co-host? I'm not asking for me. Obviously you said host, right? I thought it was a co-host We'll get her a co-host Real slow What uh, people get you had backlash for that too. I don't know why because i'm just trying to prepare my kids for the world
Starting point is 01:32:35 I I all this stuff you're doing. I love it because it really is It's who we are it's breaking down things that like like going back to to episode two that I watched last night Where you went through interviews and you showed like hey this guy stutters a little this guy doesn't say this guy says like or Man, you have to get that out of your like your repertoire. Yeah That kind of stuff. I know like you don't see coaches do it. No, you don't you don't they don't give a darn about it But I care and this is the way these kids are going to have sustainability And this is the way these kids are going to be provoke change in their communities and in their families We we got to be able to step outside the box man and make things happen
Starting point is 01:33:15 Brittany If I would have had that conversation that Brittany gave our kids In college I'll have at least 20 to 30 million More in my pocket From the bull junk that I've dealt with in the divorces and all that foolishness in my life I would have known that's gang right that's gang like oh my god that she'd break it down I mean the best line that she had the whole show was when she said uh
Starting point is 01:33:42 And when I look at my dms, I have more checks than nikes Yeah Oh my god, that was so cold. I was like Brittany that is brilliant, baby Brittany that is good. She's very good at what she does. No, she's very smart though. She's very smart Like you just looking at the external like to sit down and talk to her She she's a step ahead of the game man, and it's a game out there now It's not just I'm gonna go here with my friend and meet tom at the bar. No, no, no, man She already understand what tom likes to drink what he's gonna wear what he's gonna have on what time he's gonna get there
Starting point is 01:34:17 She already got a game playing together and she's getting help from her girlfriends. Yeah Um, I want you to finish this one for me. You have this saying kids that play on sunday You're gonna remember on monday cash their checks on tuesday What happens on wednesday and thursday and friday and saturday they work. Okay. They work I was just waiting for you to finish because whenever you start with a Saying it could go on forever and that's the best part Because you said it you're like yeah kids would play on sunday, and then you had to beat And you remember my monday and then you had another beat like cash their checks on tuesday
Starting point is 01:34:49 I was just waiting for the rest of the week. There's so many things that I say and it just it's spontaneous. They know it It's spontaneous like like I'm like turn on the camera, baby. I'm rolling. Let's go. Let's do it The don't don't make a monument out of a moment. That's my favorite one. That's it. That's the god god honest truth These kids man is so much We could do 10 shows with the content that we have But we had to break it down to you know several episodes. It should be Dana's drunk. So he can't he can't edit definitely right now He didn't know where he is right now. He thinks he's on martyrs Trick that last beer Dana when Dana's eyes glaze over it's don't do it. It's just the best look ever
Starting point is 01:35:27 Don't do it be your treat. No. No, I did actually want to have Dana on to give him a true performance review Yeah, so what is he like day to day? Does he have he has full access to everything? He has clearance He walks around and he has a team everywhere. Yeah, he has people underneath him Yes, and I mean at night and day every And what do you think like is he doing a good job or is he he's doing a great job first? It was a bonding kind of stage right That he had to know, you know kind of how I move how what I like what I don't like and and he got the rhythm real quick I mean, he's a quick learn. He's an athlete for my athlete. So he got it really quick
Starting point is 01:36:09 12 and 10 what's the matters you've ever been at Dana? I've never been mad at that's that that can't be Yes, but not beers. Oh, no Dana. What's the matters that dion's ever been at? He's never yelled at me. It's it's everybody else has gotten it But yeah, like sometimes I'll just post something too soon or just I don't know not have the best video editor or something But he's never yelled at me. Yeah, huh? What do you think he could improve on yes? Yeah, how about this like what's an opportunity he has for improvement? The only thing he could improve on and it's not dealing with anything with the doc is the other day-to-day right the music selection Oh, I'm not good at that. He's not wait. Did you let him pick?
Starting point is 01:36:57 That's actually on you if you did that That'd be like your your players calling their own plays Right and then but being like oh, it's but if it's a video where I'm really talking and informing and instructing and educating He knows I like that build up that yeah Crescendo. Yeah, what we call it what we call it. What you drunk now? He don't know He's so hammered. Yeah, he's drunk. He's just going back out. I got a lot to do today. Yeah, hopefully not Jimmy Fallon to go on. Yeah He'll probably appreciate the beer. Yeah, he'll appreciate the beer for sure
Starting point is 01:37:32 All right, so I had one last question for you coach prime fall season out right now Watch every Tuesday and Thursday night. Well, actually, you know, I have I have two last questions Good row back question though use code take on row back dot com for 20% off your first purchase They make the best performance q-zips and hoodies. It's all that we wear pft He's wearing one right now. Yeah, we'd like to gift you a row back performance hoodie on us So awl's go to our h o b a c k dot com use code take for 20% off your first purchase At what episode five four in this season, uh, you have obviously a health scare. Yeah five I was
Starting point is 01:38:13 Like in real time because we do the pro football football show together every week There was a moment where I was like Because everyone was being a little, you know, like hey deal. It's not doing like secret ever. Yeah We've never been together and kept a secret. It was crazy. So what What like can you tell people to watch because it really was like touch and go for a minute I'll tell you what I did. I did and uh, he did a great job I said, look man, I don't want to gross people out but I want
Starting point is 01:38:41 Three to five seconds show them what happened in three to five seconds And pull back blur it after that And then when my kids see it for the first time the same thing let them see it three to five seconds because my kids They couldn't believe it. But the first time I looked down The bed and saw what transpired. I had I had nine total surgeries on his foot. Yeah on everything on on on Oh on your ankle. Oh my god. Oh my god. It's on both sides. Holy shit. Yeah, so it had it hadn't been It hadn't been easy. Yeah, holy shit. When did you when did you first start like noticing a problem with that? um
Starting point is 01:39:21 It was always a problem with my toe and From from football. So this was my fourth toe surgery and it just didn't heal. So I'm sitting up there and I'm like, Danny and Our trainer she said We needed to go get this checked. I said, what do you mean? She said your big toe and your second toe is black We got to go to the hospital now. I said, let's practice. We'll go afterwards. We cool And that's when it all started when we got to the hospital And and doctor started to look around at each other and you're like, oh my goodness. Something's going on
Starting point is 01:39:52 That's a scary look when they don't say anything directly to you and they just immediately start talking to each other And I was there for a month after that and it was it was um You you almost made us feel bad because Dave and I gave you a bunch of shit and then you and it got like way worse And everyone's like, yeah, it's not good right now Because you got you you know, something happened you went you came back to work We gave you shit for missing like a day and then it was like a surgery and I came right back I know and then we didn't and then we didn't see you for like a month and it was like, oh Shit, I probably should have said that because it was a threat to my life. Yeah, I know it was life threatening
Starting point is 01:40:25 And this is all never been seen. It's gonna be on episode five still to this day. People don't know right I think a lot of people don't know my team knew because when I first came back I dressed the team and it was a did we show that? Yes, it's Waterfalls coach. That was that was false. Yeah, that that's gonna be a tear jerker I don't know what waterfalls. I didn't use profanity, but I use other words. So did we we did we take care of that? There was no profanity. I know but there's other words that is no. Yeah, you're all profaned. It's I took care of it. I'm not sure. I'm not even sure how
Starting point is 01:41:00 How to think about that. There's words that is not profanity, but they're profane to people Can can dana give me an example of one of those words Uh, um, do you know how to get penis surgery? No, I'm not talking. Okay. Okay. He's drunk But yeah, it was very uh, it was crazy. It was I remember exactly when someone was like, hey, this isn't This isn't normal. Yeah, it was like, oh fuck. It was it was it was bad It was really bad. It got really really bad lost a lot of blood as well Got really really bad and then I was on so many meds
Starting point is 01:41:37 I don't think I was awake But maybe a couple hours a day four weeks at a time. I didn't eat anything for three weeks. I lost 35 pounds I need to I need to get my you know fucked up. You know seven surgeries 35 pounds it is just I was like my high school size and I was just weak And I couldn't eat. I'm this is a bar stools. I can say it on bar stools because that's who we are This is the toughest thing for that happened to me I didn't take a dump. Oh no for
Starting point is 01:42:10 Three weeks. What? Okay. No, there's a painkiller. No, I'm building up. I'm building up. I'm building up. I'm building up So there's like his locker room. There's like mr. Sanders. You you've got to take the uh, Whatever the thing that make you about anima. No, I forgot what it was laxatives. I don't think they call it laxatives or something chili skyline chili milk And I said, okay Then they say well, can you
Starting point is 01:42:35 Use a bed pan. I say ma'am would all do respect. I can't trick my mind Into taking a dump in the bed I can't trick myself to do that. It's no way I could just have my mind and thinking I'm on the toilet But I'm in the bed and I'm sitting straight laying straight down. I can't even push him out. I can't do that That's not gonna happen. So I said, I'll tell you what guys Get me a chair get me to the bathroom because I feel like I'm almost ready So instead of them me letting them get me up I push up on the bed and I had no strength because I haven't done nothing and during the month
Starting point is 01:43:10 And I lost all strength there. I got dizzy. They put me in the chair And when I got to the toilet, I tried to push up off the chair a little bit And they set me on the toilet, but I exhausted all then I said you guys get out of the room go I passed out I passed out on the toilet like couldn't do nothing like They ran in there got me out and it was just a tear jerking like I could not believe this happened to me. I was so weak This is what happened to me and I was I was mad at myself I mean, I was teary-eyed crying mad at myself to put me back in the bed and all night I set up and thought about I failed
Starting point is 01:43:48 The next day I said, I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it. I'm serious I could work to the next day I'm gonna take this dump like like I'm serious like the rocking music is on and I'm like I'm gonna take this dump You're like game planning for it. I'm gonna take this dump. Wait. Give us. Yeah, give us. We'll put music behind this Give us a speech of of what you're feeling. This is a speech Okay, they're gonna come in here. They're gonna pick me up and they're gonna put me in the bed Take me out of the bed. Okay. I'm getting up. I'm not gonna use my strength anymore. I'm gonna preserve it So when I need it, okay, I'm gonna let them do all the heavy lifting
Starting point is 01:44:15 It got me in the chair took me over to the toilet set me on there I looked at I'm stirring an eye and I said get out Get out. So now I'm on the toilet and I'm like, okay, I could do this I could do this I could do this I mean, it was like a woman giving birth and when I tell you It was like a rubik's cube This solid. I believe this was the hardest thing I've ever done in my life
Starting point is 01:44:41 The sat the act covering jerry rice michael ervin all those guys does not compare to what I pushed out dude It was I looked down there. It was nine rubik's cubes And I was just late. I was laying across the toilet like that when I was Dude, come on and get me dude That's the toughest battle I've ever had in my life. I believe I was like I believe it sounds awful. Yeah, you couldn't even high step after what was the understatement
Starting point is 01:45:16 awful was the understatement. I'm I'm not lying. It was so devastating. I had to look. Yeah. Oh, you have to Because you don't know like what's making you feel that bad. I'm not exaggerating. It was nine rubik's cubes It took a couple flushes. They weren't going they weren't going in one shot They didn't go they're not going one shot. Oh, man. It's like they had to break up They had to break the huddle and office and defense. It's no way so something ever So dan has got all that footage for episode five. No, you don't have it You don't have that didn't make it
Starting point is 01:45:52 Um, well, I'm happy that you're feeling a lot better walking around. All right, so last last question Would you like to please rank your five nfl quarterbacks right now? Because I know that yes, whatever you say is going to be very stupid Yes, okay. Mm-hmm. Number one. Tom Brady's retired. Tom Brady's retired because he would be one. Yeah I'm gonna go with my homes just because okay, okay to This is where it's gonna get done. Yeah No, I don't agree with you I'm gonna go with
Starting point is 01:46:27 deck I told you I didn't know it was gonna get that. That's I thought it was gonna get other way to go. That's that's very good That's the personnel that everyone else has and wait. What are you talking about the personnel that he's got loads of Garbage his line is garbage. I mean I hate the guy, but you're not gonna pick the guy who just won the mvp two times in a row Who erin rogers? Oh, I'm sorry erin rogers number two. Okay. No, no, no erin rogers is one. No Erin rogers is one Mahomes is too you you can count on erin rogers to do to lose in the visual round or the nfc champions. Mahomes is two
Starting point is 01:47:08 Deck is three Okay Still crazy. That's so dumb. Yeah, that part is crazy This is where I'm gonna go with uh Oh, no, only only because only because he had a great playoff game Even though they lost because if Lamar would have lost he lost. No, I'm gonna go with uh my guy from buffalo Okay, josh Allen. That's actually huge for holy shit. Now five is a toss up between several men Give me a list
Starting point is 01:47:35 Just throw out the names that you're considering for five. You can leave five open and give me the the considerations burrow Yep, okay my guy and uh L. A. Chargers. He's it can't get complain Herber Herber could play So you soured on Lamar Jackson Lamar didn't have a great year. I don't know what to expect from Lamar. I just sour on him. I he's inconclusive Yeah, what about big Ben big Ben is big Ben should have retired three years ago
Starting point is 01:48:07 And you know what everybody knows, of course, but nobody said oh, no, we said it. No, we yeah. Yeah, we said Yeah, we don't want it. We hope he never that's that's about it. But three knows Okay, and you got to be careful with the young guys. They had great years, but you you can't it's a moment Don't make a monument out of a moment. There you go. It's a moment. Yeah staffers. Where does he fall? He won. He's still stafford now stafford is i'm proud of him. He won. Yeah, but It's no way you you should win a superbowl when you throw two picks It's no way he threw what no i'm trying to think who else i mean rossensperger did it's but it's not normal That's not that doesn't supposed to happen. Yeah, defensively with a defensive mind
Starting point is 01:48:46 That's does not supposed to happen. Is Aaron donnell the best defensive player of all time not of all time He's one of the best cousin june bug. I am I am you are yeah, I am then uh lt probably Reggie white. Oh my god. See those Those guys are killers, man Reggie bruce smith guys like that ray Lewis was phenomenal ed reed was so dominant Yeah, I just like it that the guys that I were able I was able to play with They're in it. Yeah. Yeah between you and ray Lewis Who was the guy that was like given the best motivational speeches? I was I was past my prime then so that was ray's team
Starting point is 01:49:23 I was just there. Did he get you fired up? Hey, if I had to get fired up there's a problem You can't you can't get another man. I I didn't I didn't need you're always fired up. Right. I didn't need that I just had a job. I didn't have to get I didn't play with emotions. I just had a job Yeah, I I wasn't a yeller and screamer on the field never went off on my teammates I ain't I ain't give all those big bravado speeches when I played Oh, uh last last last question. I think just gave me the eyes Um, you care to comment on that hat you're wearing on the dunk contest. Uh, that was beautiful, wasn't it?
Starting point is 01:49:57 I had to do something different. Where were you was that from? 80 it had to be 90s 90s. Yeah, I one last question for you Oh, I'm actually getting the he needs to leave. Okay. Yeah, one last question. Sorry. I didn't see the text I'm 54 leaving. I want to but anyway, there we go What what was up with that that dive? Like you embarrassed all of us, but you made it right. It was slippery. Yeah, but you didn't count that in you're a very calculated guy You didn't count that I said it was slippery before I thought my athleticism could overcome that It wasn't able I wasn't able to but I was scared that you was gonna crack a knee cap
Starting point is 01:50:30 I know me terror hamstring. I know just something. Here's the thing Here's the one one one great thing about being is out of shape and fat and no you But here's the great thing is that I don't move fast enough to get injured You know how you have to like actually kind of move to get injured I don't I don't have fast twitch much muscles and that looked like a pool Back from like the 80s. Yeah, the hotel was no rose place. Yeah, you ever watch that show? Yeah, it was kind of like that set up there Yeah, yeah, it was sort of like the pool that Naimeth was talking his junk. Yes. Yes When he guaranteed to win. Yes. Um, all right coach prime appreciate you guys fall season
Starting point is 01:51:08 I can't recommend it enough Tuesdays and Thursday nights. You can watch the you know last year You can watch at any time. It's the best And a drunk guy made the whole thing. So it's a feat of he embarrassed. It's a marvel It's an actual modern marvel that it got to air He really embarrassed me. Dan is actually the best athlete in this interview right now for being able to drink and edit Yeah, but he didn't do no speaking Coach prime was brought to you by roman swipes or great friends over at roman Want you to know that they've got your back
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Starting point is 01:52:17 That's when you choose a monthly plan. Go to get roman.com slash take All right, let's wrap up uh quickly Who what's our predictions for who's going to be in what booth next year real quick cbs is going to stay the same Jim jim nance and tony romo. Obviously traigman now seems like he's espn Yeah, looks like he's going to be espn. I feel bad like no one's talking about joe buck and all this joe's He's he's losing his pissing buddy. I I think joe buck has He might go to espn. I mean, I doubt it, but he that's been rumored a little bit
Starting point is 01:52:49 That would be crazy. It would be crazy baseball too though. That would fuck him. I'm gonna go I'm gonna go uh espn will be chris fowler And traigman amazon will be collinsworth and herb street Wait, who's doing who's doing play-by-play just have just have no sorry not collinsworth michael's in herb street and fox will be
Starting point is 01:53:17 joe buck Sean patin. Oh, I actually think it's going to be joe buck and greg olson. Oh I think they're going to move them up. Yeah um I'm going to go on espn I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it with steve levy. I like steve. Okay. I like them too, but I'm just you know We're shuffling all the decks. Yeah, I think steve levy and then troi akeman And then amazon. I think you're right. I think they're just going to move over
Starting point is 01:53:44 I think it's going to be al and I think it's going to be uh Maybe herb he does want. I mean, I think herbie wants that Which is weird I don't know. It's a lot of it's it's less work and a lot more money Like I it's it's like the shaw mcvay rumors when everyone is like shaw mcvay might go in the booth Oh, why would he do that? I don't know to work one one hundredth of the amount of time and get paid double Sounds pretty good. They should do uh espn instead of doing the manning cast They should do the grouting cast where it's j john induce. Hmm. I'd be it
Starting point is 01:54:19 Uh would need to have a 15 second delay on that. I if I were troi akeman by the way Going to espn. I'd be like you can't do the manning cast anymore. That would suck I was thinking about that actually like why why would you agree to go there? Even though the manning cast doesn't draw that many eyeballs It's just like a bunch of people that watch it sometimes has a second screen thing It could be like, oh, it's better. Well, the the problem you're gonna want to do with that It's gonna clear it but if you're troi you're going to espn Basically to give the wet suck to roger goddell right so they can get a decent game every now and again on money
Starting point is 01:54:50 Football and the manning cast is at its worst when it's a good game right that people care about it's at its best When it's a team that a game that nobody gives a shit about that's out of out of hand by the second quarter And I also understand shriekman like just out of principle Seeing tony romo make that much money and everyone being like he's incredible When you've won three super roles with the cowboys and you've been doing it for a lot longer that would piss me off That would really piss. Troy probably wants to go to a network that allows him to smoke weed in the booth Ooh, good point. Do they allow to espn? I'm sure yeah, disney though. You can do anything you want disney. Mm-hmm. I don't know disney
Starting point is 01:55:25 Actually fox might be well fox. No, you could you could probably could you blaze up? I don't think so You could maybe take some pills or something. Definitely pills. Yeah. Um, all right What are we doing? Oh, we read an article everyone read an article on mlb lockout. Shall we go? Yeah Uh, pfc. Why don't you start? Okay? I read an article on the mlb lockout again. I went back to breitbart sports They always have the fire takes Um, basically where we're at right now is there's a deadline that the owners have set Which is today? February 28th. It would have been a real rib tickler if they had said the 29th
Starting point is 01:56:00 As the as the deadline, but they just arbitrarily set this deadline on the 28th Which is today where if they don't come to an agreement, they're going to start canceling games actual real regular season games And uh, then the players are like, no, we can always make them up in double headers The owners are like, no, we don't want to do that Then the players are like, well, if you cancel games and you don't make them up in double headers Then we're going to disagree with the playoff expansion formula that you have in place And we're not going to let you put advertisements on our helmets
Starting point is 01:56:30 So, you know what they're playing hardball. They are truly Um, I sorry that was my big takeaway too that tomorrow or today feels like a pretty important day Uh, I also read that talks were productive, but short. Okay. And then yeah, there you go. And then Um, the most important piece that I got I read my article from marketwatch.com Um between 1 p.m. And 6 30 p.m. On sunday deputy commissioner dan halem Made four walks from the offices in the main part of roger dean stadium To the area where players caucus in the cardinals clubhouse building beyond the right field wall Okay, that's a lot of walks. That's a lot of walks four walks. How was he going there?
Starting point is 01:57:16 That was between one and six thirty. They have the bathroom there. I don't know, but that's a lot of walks like that I love that stat like what Something's happening. He's walking back and forth and every time I read the name dan halem. I think it's I think it's dan Herron. Yeah, which he would have had this solved already. We should just ask dan herron Yeah, we'll just pretend that you're the deputy commissioner. Also, what is rob manford doing in all this? Is he involved man fraud? He's man fraud just making his number two doing man fraud's about to have a serious issue on his hands because One, uh, frank the tank francis fleming is planning on locking out the lockout on tuesday How's he gonna do that? He is going to protest
Starting point is 01:57:55 The lockout Okay, he's going on strike from the lockout. Correct. He doesn't you don't lock out frank the tank frank the tank locks out you So he's planning on he tweeted on saturday afternoon amidst the college basketball mania We want I want to lock out. I want to protest the lockout. Can anyone tell me where well the irony is That the lockout would definitely make frank the tanks mental health so much better because he wouldn't be upset about the Mets now, but I think he's that upset about the lockout Like the Mets Just the existence of the Mets is better than no Mets. No Mets would drive him insane
Starting point is 01:58:30 But he wouldn't have anything to get that mad about he needs that it's true. Yeah, it keeps him going also one last thing was uh They're they have a document that they're reviewing 359 pages. That's insane. No one's no one's read the whole I'd give up if our max surgeon. I'd be like fuck this I'm not doing I also read that the players drove cars Yeah, these negotiations and some of the cars were expensive. They do they are some Guys who have some money now. I think the players should they should have to walk on foot They shouldn't have they shouldn't have hotels either. They should have to wear they should have to ride donkeys To the they should have to beg for money
Starting point is 01:59:09 Or hitch a ride in no the bus. They should have to take the bus. Yeah, I'll take the bus take the bus Cool ranch Doritos. Sure as there was holding cool ranch Doritos at the meeting Those are cheap. Those are like 39 cents a bag also make some Great taste. That's actually a great negotiating skill like To go to a meeting like that. I feel like that's a cat dog situation. Like are you a Regular Doritos or a cool ranch guy cool ranch being the cooler of the people. Great high stack. Yeah cooler ranch Especially when you dip it in salsa Yeah
Starting point is 01:59:42 Billy what was your article? I read sports illustrated and then I saw that tweet about the cool ranch All I got was players Gave a substantive offer And the owners like nah Okay, got it. Good. All I I should add one more thing. I guess the owners want 14 playoff teams and the players want 12 Hmm. Let's do 13 Why not every year. Yeah one side gets more. Yeah, we'll meet in the middle depends on the year this year
Starting point is 02:00:10 The nationally gets seven teams. Everyone's the all star game. There you go. Yeah. Yeah, it means more Uh jake In addition to what you guys said, uh, Monday will be the eighth consecutive bar to get bargaining session I've got to think once they enter like the fifth of the sixth. They're like, all right. What are we doing here? Right, just play the game right like come on. It doesn't work like but no eight straight days like Hanukkah Exactly like Hanukkah, but no gifts. No gifts and no candles. Yes, and Hank I read an article on bluebird.com
Starting point is 02:00:42 John Hayman said a website contradictory to all the negativity upset Surrounding the MLB players talks one person involved said he believes the sides are now within striking distance And a deal could be done by tomorrow night. This was uh on the 27th of this morning Striking distance is an interesting choice of words there luxury tax remains a sticky issue But a 225 230 million threshold should work and then zack brinton who's a player on the Yankees and is in the meetings Replied and said this is not accurate So so we're not close a lot of a lot of misinformation. It's tough. Yeah. Was that oh Bluebird that's that's the bird app. Yes talking about the bird where the empaths go every day. Yeah
Starting point is 02:01:25 Would you consider yourself to be an empath? Thank you? Absolutely. Oh, yeah, you are sometimes I need to take a break but for the most part I'm like probably 75 empath and then you know, I had to I had to take a break sometimes from caring too much Yeah, me too Because I'm I'm such a good person Then sometimes it hurts to care so much. Yeah I struggle only few will understand the uh, it's this is just a totally unrelated thing
Starting point is 02:01:52 But take my son understands take a break So anytime I want to like go check my score or something. I'm like, I'm taking a break. He's like, okay, cool Like take a break. Did I take a break? I'm like, yeah, I'm taking a break I need to take a break. Kentucky just hit a three in my fucking face. I'm taking a break. All right. It's just a little break Uh, but yeah empaths out there shout out the real ones. So we're not gonna baseball I think Hank just said that we're within striking distance. Nope. Hank. Zach Britton said no Yeah, but Hank reported that they are what if what if Zach Britton was saying this is not accurate
Starting point is 02:02:22 We're closer than striking distance. Yeah, we're in a phone booth. Yeah Bernard Hopkins Sounds like you yeah, everyone out there that thinks that Zach Britton was saying the opposite You're actually putting words in his mouth baseball if baseball doesn't start the season and play a full season They're gonna learn very quickly that They they miscalculated like the world's need for baseball like I'm thinking about it right now Even when the NBA started late We football was going on so it was like, okay Football's the only
Starting point is 02:02:51 League where if they didn't start on time people would write now if baseball doesn't start for a month I'll be I'll be like, oh this sucks. I want baseball, but I wouldn't notice fully until Like late june and be like where the fuck is my base? You're not a seam head like I am I I love opening week of baseball but if they really wanted to To do it right they would just have opening week and then they would Institute the lockout then right because I again and then bring it back after the fourth of july Yeah, no opening day is great
Starting point is 02:03:19 And I I love baseball in the summer But if if you're like telling me that there's not going to be baseball where we're watching march madness It's going to be hard for me to to be like damn. Where's the baseball? So that's the that's the problem. They run into I will get pissed by the end of june I'll be like where the fuck is my baseball? Yeah, instead of like figuring out all this shit about designated hitters and which Which games start extra innings with the runner on second base That's like manford's favorite thing to do. Yeah to continue be like, okay. We'll give you another designated hitter
Starting point is 02:03:49 Is that back this season? I don't know I can't keep track of it. Oh, yeah. No, it's universal dh They roll the extra innings. Oh the extra innings. No, uh, I don't know. I don't know either. I'll look who knows Uh, all right, let's wrap up billy. You got some of these, uh Final death. They're all pretty Pretty grim. Well, we're doing but They were too chicken shit to do their own article. So we're doing it. I found uh some good ones though So this is a reddit post. So this happened a couple of years ago
Starting point is 02:04:19 We had an ex gang guy who's dying of cancer and he confessed that he was the gang None of these have been vetted by the way just the heads up for many years He went to confess to all the killings and showed the police where the bodies are buried He would get closure knowing that the surviving families of his victims find out where they are buried We had to get to the hospital legal team involved because We had no policies to deal with that cops got involved and the dude confessed to gang murders from decades ago I got to say like drawing a map on your death bed is pretty fucking cool. Yeah, that is also all these I just assume are made up Uh, you guys are like you're laying down and then you draw like a giant x and you're like here you go
Starting point is 02:04:57 So under this tree most of them are just like Like okay, then there's this one Uh, sorry, there won't be like I farted When I was 16 I worked as a dietary aid in a pretty nice nursing home There was this one older gentleman that I became pretty good friends with He always talked about world war two and how he had lost so many guys in his company Several days in a row. I had noticed that he wasn't coming down to the dining room for lunch or dinner Went to his room to check on him and he wasn't there the nurse said that he had a spell and fell out of his bed
Starting point is 02:05:29 His doctor wanted him to go to the hospital for observation. What had really happened is he had a stroke He got back to the nursing home about a week later and he really couldn't remember anyone except for me We talked the day after he got back and he told me he wasn't doing good He knew this he knew his time was coming to a close Said it was time for him to pay for all the horrible things he had done when he was over in europe He wasn't a religious man, but he asked me where I thought he was going I said to bed because it's getting close to lights out. He said no joe By the way, my name is mike. I mean up or down now. I'm not a deeply religious person either
Starting point is 02:06:05 But I said martin that's not for me to say he laughed and said I know where I'm going There's only one place for people who have done what I've done. I've killed so many people joe Most of the time it didn't matter who it was. We went into buildings just shooting. There's only one place for me It's what I deserve I had absolutely nothing to respond with when I say that the experience shook me to the core I really mean it that man's face is burned into my memory because of that conversation He passed away the next day his son kept asking where joe was at I quit that day working in a nursing home is haunting place takes a special type of person to be able to watch people
Starting point is 02:06:38 Just die around you The big great buzzfeed uh Yeah editors. Oh, yeah, we should probably not do this. Yeah, it's it gets worse. Yeah, it's heavy. Yeah So maybe it was good that they deleted the tweet I think I've I've just realized that I'm I want to learn a really really good joke And just like the ultimate going out on a high note just on my deathbed I'll just say I'll say the joke that I've been rehearsing my entire life Yeah, and then people will laugh and then I'll just die and it'll be it standing ovation for the joke. Yeah
Starting point is 02:07:08 What if they didn't like the joke? Well, I don't have to stick around here. Yeah, but that would suck if you died and everyone's like damn that joke sucked All right, that's our show. We'll see everyone on Wednesday Wednesday We have Duncan Robinson and Aiden Hutchinson too for for the michigan. Yeah, wolverines stand up numbers 40 22 25 61 I like the conviction there pft or like the head stage like ah, it's gonna be a 61. Oh 63
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