Pardon My Take - Dianna Russini On Coach Firings/Hirings, Brandon Walker On CFB, Who Is Under The Most Pressure Wild Card Weekend + Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: January 8, 2025

Black Monday has come and gone and we had firings and some surprise teams staying the course (00:00:00-00:15:38). We do a quick draft of Wild Card QB's and then talk who is under the most pressure as the playoffs begin (00:15:38-00:37:44). Hot Seat/Cool Throne and Jalen Hurts concussion protocol as well as North Korea (00:37:44-00:50:17). Dianna Russini joins the show to talk about Black Monday, who is getting hired where? What moves surprised the NFL world and Memes has some Jets questions (00:50:17-01:23:20). Brandon Walker joins the show to talk College Football Playoffs, how they've gone so far, Penn State vs Notre Dame and Ohio State vs Texas and accepts his crown as CFB expert (01:23:20-02:05:33). We finish the show with guys on chicks (02:05:33-02:18:14).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, January 8th and PFT black Monday has occurred and we just want to remind everyone that those guys have families and schools. Yeah. Getting fired is not fun. No, this is a, it's a very somber day. Thoughts and prayers. Anyone that takes joy in their coach being fired is a sicko. See you Doug Peterson. Adios bitch. Ah, so it was crazy. We're going gonna get into more with Diana Rossini about it but that was I think the most shocking news was Trent Balke staying and Doug Peterson going

because Trent Balke is a cockroach. He just sticks around forever. He has been the GM of two teams and he is now about to hire his sixth head coach and I looked it up Trent Balke as the GM of the Jacksonville Jaguars is 26 and 58 are sorry He started as like a I think he was a senior player personnel or whatever and then became the GM So his time in Jacksonville 26 and 58 Doug Peterson's time in Jacksonville was 22 and 29

So Trent Balke without Doug Peterson was foreign 29. 22 and 29 sounds pretty good. Yeah, it does. And but so Doug Peterson got fired, but Trent Balke didn't. Yep. And you separate those and you're like, wait a second. Now I'm not saying Doug Peters should have kept his job, but it seems like the Jag should have fired both of them. Yeah. So Trent Balke, he was there for the 49ers, the the Jim Harbaugh, Jim Tom Sula days. Yup. I believe he hired Chip Kelly. He hired Jim Tom Sula. He hired Chip Kelly. Yup. Uh, and he was part of that whole scene where allegedly Harbaugh may have told some high up people when they walked into the room, sorry, this room is for men

only. Yes. Uh, and then that, you know, you know what he's really good at? He's really good at sitting next to the owner. Yeah. And being the one with the most face time around the owner, even how he got the job in Jacksonville. He started as a like I said, senior player personnel or something. And then they fired their GM. And then he was like, I'll be the interim GM. And then after a while, I was like, wait, I guess I'll just stick is the GM. Yeah, he just he's he's a survivor.

Sitting next to the owner during games is actually worth a lot in terms of job security. And he's very good at that. Yeah. So that was the big news. Then the Giants also big news keeping both Dable and Joe Shane. crazy. I mean, I guess john merritt deserves credit for being a man of his word. I guess so. He also really kind of threw him under the bus while saying that he's keeping them. Yeah. He's like, this is one of the hardest decisions I've had to make, but we're not firing

him. And it's a dumpster fire decision in this respect. One, you have a GM, they both are on the hot seat, the hottest seat possible going into the season. So what is the GM going to do? He's probably going to spend as much money as he possibly can in free agency. I think someone posted last night, like Gettleman spent the most money in his hot seat year. Who was their GM after Gettleman? I can't remember his name, but he spent the most money in his hot seat year. And now you have the coach and GM in their hot seat years going to just try to spend as much money as possible and hope that that keeps their job and also probably draft a quarterback and then maybe I would say that the pressure would be on them to play that quarterback on the early side rather than on the delayed side

Yes, so I'm not saying that if they get like cam warden He's great They put him in too soon But if they get cam ward or should or somebody like that and they wait around you know, four weeks in the regular season and he doesn't look great in practice, they're going to be more likely to be like, fuck it. Let's just pull the emergency start rookie quarterback lever so that we can save our own job. Correct. But I do think that day ball, I think he's a, I've changed a little bit as the course of this year went on, but I still think that he is a guy that can be a very good head coach. I agree with that. If he had the right tools around him. They gotta do a lot of other stuff. Like the roster's not so great.

But yeah, they're gonna be sticking around. And Mr. Mara, I would have, I would feel so bad if I was the head coach. And the owner gave a press conference being like, I know everybody in the world wanted me to fire this guy. And I wanted to fire this guy, but I'm not gonna fire this guy. Yeah, and I wanted to fire this guy But I'm not gonna fire this yes. Yes, but it was Jerry Reese before Gettleman So he had a hot seat year where he went max in the in the free agency

I think they made the playoffs and Gettleman did the same so it's gonna be they're gonna be all in Also, I saw this so Jordan Renan said how rare is it for a coach to get another season after winning just three games in their third year? It's only happened twice since 1980 Bruce Coslet in 1999 and David Dave Shula in 95 both with Cincy and both crashed out Definitely a weird thing for year three like year one three wins You can keep your job your two maybe even your three three wins definitely usually is you're gone I think they both made such an equal amount of mistakes that it was hard to pin most of the blame on one of them It's kind of smart. It's very cover each other's like they can if they both get a little bit better than we're in a good spot

Yeah, but I can't identify which guy is the issue and then the names are piling in for each job The Bears are gonna hire or gonna interview every single person ever Michael McCarthy David Shaw Kafka Robert Sala the list just goes on and on I did see an old friend though memes Are you excited for Matt Nagy era in New York? He's just getting an interview. He's not he's not the next coach. What's wrong talking to guys? Yeah Who do you want because Ben Johnson is not going to the Jets or the Saints. Because those teams did not offer him an interview,

which means he basically was like, don't even bother interviewing me. Ben Johnson would have been Adam Gase 2.0 on the Jets. Nice spin zone. That's good. He is very, I don't like his attitude when it comes to taking meetings either. Yeah, I don't either it's it's kind of crazy

We got three three we got two teams in the playoffs and three teams looking for new head coaches here on this podcast So who do you want? Either variable. Okay. I mean, um Hank just went like this You sad sad boy. Hey, I mean it's still possible Aaron Glenn okay Brian Flores, I'm sure dolphins fans are probably like yeah take him. Yeah, well yeah, I'll take him That's pretty much it sounds like you're thinking about kidnapping Y'all take that guy yeah, it doesn't seem like you're very enthused about this. I think you should want Rex Ryan

I think you should want Rex Ryan more than anything you've ever wanted because at the very least it's gonna be a fucking blast Yeah, yeah, but the end of the Rex Ryan days weren't great right and I'm sure getting were and what would you be doing? When you hire him you going back to the beginning back to the beginning, but he's old now mm-hmm You don't know how he deals with the new players. He's thinner He's a little I don't mean in fact whatever if if Rex agrees to put on 200 pounds fat Rex back yeah fat right see I'm in the I'm the reverse Mike McCarthy if Mike McCarthy if the Bears decide to hire Mike McCarthy it has to come with Ozempic because like the first person ever to move to Chicago and lose weight yeah he'd have to do it he'd have to do it because I

was talking with Eddie our good friend And he was like he he basically like I don't want it Mike McCarthy because of the face He's gonna make and I explained to him. Well, there's no big jumbotron in soldier field So at least he won't do that, but I agree you got to lose weight if you're Mike McCarthy I want Mike McCarthy to the Bears just you're you're rooting for my demise. No, not not for your demise specifically torture He's a good coach. You know that the honesty is that like McCarthy the Bears would be a disaster I think it would be funny to watch I think I'm fine with people wanting anyone to be a disaster That's the way I think he's a good coach a coordinator is not a proven good head coach

There's been many examples of stud offensive coordinators not working on his head coaches Mike McCarthy has at least proved himself Yes coach like you have a better chance doing with Mike McCarthy than Ben Johnson I'm not even joking about that. You'll at least be honest. You just want to see my pain and no matter what it funny But yeah I think honestly if I really want to see your pain Ben Johnson would be more painful because you'd get so much higher up and then When he sucked you I'm never gonna get so much higher up and then when he sucked you'd never get higher than six out of ten mm-hmm that's a lot of you got Johnson if I really wanted to take glee in your pain I would root for Ron Rivera to the Bears but I'm not and I'm rooting for Mike but you would also love that no actually I don't think that I

would I don't think I would you'd find a way to love it no because he's so nice and he'd probably stop in probably have to be nice to him again yeah that would be too close to us if If you get Ben Johnson. Six out of 10. That's such a lie, that's such a lie and you know it. That's awesome. So if you get Ben Johnson six out of 10, you get Mike McCarthy, where are you at?

Two. Two out of 10. I'm rooting for Mike now because I feel bad for the way he's been treated in Dallas. I mean you got a raw deal. So you're, you'll be more excited than if you got, if you got Mike McCart. You're gonna be excited if you get Ben Johnson. I want you to get Ben Johnson just because I want to see 6 out of 10. See you walk back this take. So if it sounds like they're gonna get Ben Johnson then Big Cat gets to watch the rest of the playoffs and see every play and be like oh fuck Yeah, yeah, but it stays six out of ten Hank what are you what are you guys gonna do you got it set for able for evil?

It's just on you. You're just you don't even have to worry about it. It's a backup plan So annoying you're just like he's it look at his smile. Aren't you a little bit? Are you a little bit worried about? How much joy would it give Tom Brady the guy that demanded his release from the New England Patriots, to then take their potential next coach and put him in Las Vegas? I think Tom Brady and Mr. Kraft have a good relationship. So I don't think it would give him that much joy. There's not bad blood. He's not even thinking about anything besides Brady.

The release with the Patriots That was a Brady Belichick thing. Give me a backup plan though for Boston for New England Probably Ben Johnson. Yeah, he's a UNC quarterback Drake Mays UNC quarterback. There's that connection. That's your backup has been I'll take my McCarthy proven winner. I Don't know a lot of ball, but I would rather take a proven head coach than a unproven coordinator. You are rolling the dice a little bit. There's a lot that, there's a lot that happens. We were getting very much.

Like it's not, it's, it's, you don't, you don't get practice for as an OC and he has the best guy ever to manage that team and be the leader of that team in Dan Campbell. Well he gets to try all his fucks. Josh McDaniels. Yeah. Hank keeps saying this thing where it's like, you've seen head coaches. How often is it that a head coach goes to his third team and is more successful? Yeah.

Because there's just as many instances as offensive coordinators, good offensive coordinators being good and going to a new team as there are head coaches going to another team. Yeah. Your whole thing of like, yeah, offensive coordinators going to a new team. Sometimes head coaches going to a new team also doesn't work. What about like Andy Reid? What about Sean McVay? What about Kyle Shanahan? What about that was second? Not his third. I know. But I said he just said going to a new team. Remove the, remove the Redskins and then, then let's do it again, huh? Remove the entire Redskins coaching tree. Okay Like you just named one organization and that's just cuz the Redskins are build coaches

Mal for he was on Say Kevin O'Connor Kevin Stefanski Coach the year twice No big deal. I mean, no, I mean, I'm talking I'm basically John Harbaugh was a special teams coordinator. I'm basically just talking specifically about McDaniels. That's I'm obviously have a Patriots bias, but that that is how I see it. It's just you have to you have to have already coached before. Sometimes it doesn't work. I'd rather take a proven winner. Okay. I mean, I think it's probably the same. Like it's probably the same success rate proven winner. Oh, Peterson was a head coach. I went to another team and did not work out for the second.

Max, let me give you one because we'll adjust it. Now we'll not go second team. We'll John Fox will go third team. Bill Belichick. UNC. No, I mean,, you're counting the Jets. Yeah, Browns Jets Patriots. Okay. Third time's a charm. Yep. I guess. Whatever. I don't want Mike McCarthy, but I'm probably gonna end up with them. Did you I'm gonna end up with Brian Flores. They're interviewing 100 people just so that Ryan Poles can hire the guy he played college football with. Did you guys see Jerry Jones on landman? No, Zach and job? What is land man? It's a it's a show It's got like Billy Bob Thornton John Hamm in it. Okay, it's a crazy show But Jerry had like a 90 second cameo was good. It was incredible

Whoa, like this guy can fucking act. Whoa, he started to tear up and like have sniffles during it He gave it a passionate speech. He out acted John Hamm and Billy Bob Thornton in the same scene Mmm, that's what Jerry should be doing. More time acting Jerry. But it made me think Mike might be coming back. The emotion that he was able to demonstrate. He was thinking about firing Mike McCarthy. He was talking about just life and family and having people around you that you care about deeply. And he meant it. And obviously he feels that way about his son. But yeah, made me think I think he's he's not cut out for firing guys

anymore. Yeah, he hasn't he doesn't fire guys. Yeah, I was there for way too long. You guys want to do some pressure talk? Who's got the most pressure? I also I also did a rankings of which QB I'd want in this playoffs. I don't know if you guys wanted to pick apart my rankings or we could do it together. I could rip through it. You could tell me. I think you would like it, PFT. Okay. My rankings are Patrick Holmes one. I don't like it. Josh Allen two Lamar Jackson three Matthew Stafford for Jared Goff five Justin Herbert six Baker Mayfield, seven Jaden Daniels,

eight Jalen hurts nine Jordan love 10 Sam Darnold, 11 CJ shroud 12 Bo Nicks and then Russell Wilson last your head of jail and hurts. It's a lot of it's a lot of names to try to remember the exact order of them. But there's also difference between quarterback and quarterback in the system that they're currently in. Yeah, I'm just saying which quarterback I want. I just want like who I trust. It's my trust rankings. I think I think that's pretty, that's pretty good.

Would you go any different than Patrick Holmes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, your top three, maybe not Lamar. Trust in the playoff on how good Lamar has been. I understand. His interceptions aren't really interceptions. We could do a quick. We could do a quick snake draft of drafting the quarterbacks. Yeah, let's do that. All right. Hank, you ready? We'll do a three man draft because it's there's we each get four quarter. No, it's 14. Right? Yeah. Yeah, it's 14.

So shit. That's a number that doesn't work in this We could do to just left out to left out. Yeah, okay. I like that. All right, that's the do not try Hey, do you want to start? No, okay. PFT. Do you want to start y'all start? All right I'll take Patrick my homes. Okay, good pick. Thank you. Good pick. I'll take Josh Allen. I'll take Jared Goff. And then you also have one coming back and I will take more Jackson. Okay. I'll take Matthew Stafford. Super winner. Yeah. Okay,hmm. Okay, I will take Jaden Daniels, mm-hmm Baker Mayfield. Mm-hmm. Okay, I will take Justin Herbert and

Jalen hurts I Will take Super Bowl winner Russell Wilson. Oh wait. No, I only have one. Sorry Justin Herbert. I Don't know why I picked two there. That was really stupid Justin Herbert Jalen hurts, okay Super winner You just think yeah, I took two by accident Justin Herbert was my pick This is we're doing a great job. Russell wills. Okay. Okay. My last pick CJ shroud. I kind of wanted to take Sam Donald.

It seems like you guys. My last pick. What's our type? Well, I wasn't gonna take you in love. I'm gonna go Malik Willis. Good pick. No, you can't change it. Yeah. Tanner McKee. Malik Willis and Tanner McKee. Yeah. Malik. Malik McKee. We'll put it up for vote blind vote and loser has to do an hour stand up. Nope. Loser has to go to a bachelor party. Yes. Yeah. Okay, you want to talk pressure rankings? Or who's under the most pressure? I have a few that I had listed. I've got I've got a one one and it might be different from what you had told me. Give me your my one one is Sean McDermott.

Okay. Okay. Are we doing individuals or teams? It's it could be individuals and teams. But I make your case for Sean McDermott, because I have a different coach that I think might have more pressure. Okay, because Josh Allen has been an alien this year. He's been incredible. It's his best year ever. He might win the MVP. And he's probably going to be incredible in the playoffs again, because Josh plays very well in the playoffs. The playoff losses, you can look at all of them and say, that's not really on Josh. Yeah, like he played out, he played good enough to win 99.9% of games, he played two perfect playoff games the year that they lost

to the Chiefs in the 13 seconds, right? So who gets the blame for those losses? Sean McDermott, I think deservedly, I don't think that obviously, there's a narrative out there, because he wants to beat my homes, he wants to say, okay, I'm the guy in AFC. I can lead my team to Super Bowl. I get that but in reality It's a lot more on his head coach than it is on him. Yeah and McDermott I I thought this after the heartbreaking loss last year and it would be shocking if it happened But if they get bounced in a terrible fashion again I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills moved on from McDermott, even though he's been a great coach for him. He turned the entire franchise around along with

Josh, but at some point these win or these losses add up. Yeah. And you just, you become that guy and then it breaks your brain and you spend all your time thinking about how to get over this one little hump and then things just fall apart. It's a good point. I don't know if they'd fire him. I don't know if they'd fire my coach that I picked but it's kind of similar vein I think Mike Tomlin has a ton of pressure because Mike Tomlin He hasn't won a playoff game since 2016. Yeah, and if you look at his playoff record He's been in Pittsburgh and forever his first four years in Pittsburgh He was five and two in the playoffs including a Super Bowl and his last 14 years in Pittsburgh. he was five and two in the playoffs, including a Super Bowl. And his last 14 years in Pittsburgh, he's three and eight. So it's not been good.

And I think the way this season has ended, I know there was some murmurings last year, like I don't think Mike Thomas can get fired. But this is just another year where it's like, Hey, you can't like you have not won a playoff game that we're going to be going on almost a decade of you not winning a playoff game, then we're gonna be going on almost a decade of you not winning a playoff game. What's going on here? We're Pittsburgh, we're the Steelers, we need to win playoff games.

Yeah. So I was my coach and also I think Russell Wilson, there's two guys that are under pressure in terms of money. Yes. Russell Wilson and Sam Darnold. Sam Darnold was gonna be my next pick. Yeah. Because the difference in how much money he's going to make next year based on how he performs in the playoffs

is there's probably a hundred million dollar difference. Yes. Yes. If he stinks, he could get franchise tagged. He could get picked up and signed for some team. If he hits the open market, some team will overpay for him. So it probably won't be in the 25 to $30 million range. So yeah, we pay like a little bit more but If he plays really really well in the playoffs now, we're talking about like 150 million dollars. Yes hundred seventy five two hundred million the way quarterbacks get paid. You don't know So this is like it's a hundred million dollar difference based strictly on how he plays I would say in the next two games and based strictly on how he plays, I would say, in the next two games.

And, like, you know, you can't just take a small sample size, but that's also the reality of it. Like, the game on Sunday was, you know, a very consequential game, playoff atmosphere. If he comes out and has a dud in the actual playoffs, that's two pressure games. You're like, what just happened? Yeah, and the most recent games you've seen.

Right, right And yeah, so Sam Donald and Russ I think Russ is the same way if Russ comes out He's just awful again like who's gonna sign him. Yeah, no one. No one's gonna sign him as for the quarterbacks I had a little pushback when I said on Sunday from people online But I do think Lamar is under more pressure than Josh Allen and that's because something that you said I do think Lamar is under more pressure than Josh Allen and that's because something that you said Josh Allen has not been the reason why The Bills have lost in the playoffs. He's been an absolute alien. He's 24 touchdowns four interceptions He had those games the Chiefs game. He played perfect. They're their defense couldn't get a stop in 13 seconds Lamar

Lamar's two and four in the playoffs and he's had some really good teams and he's had some years where I mean his QB his passer rating is 75 in the playoffs. He's had interceptions. He's had I looked it up last night, four out of six of the games. He has not gone over 200 yards. Two of those games like the other two were catch up games. Remember the game when they were the one seed against the Titans and he was just throwing The entire second half and then last year when they were down against the Chiefs. I Think there's just a lot of pressure on the marches because this is you got it like another insane season if they get bounced by The Steelers, especially it's like what is going on here? Yeah, I actually agree with that I disagreed with you I think on Sunday and thought that it was mostly on Josh

But that's that's a good point. Yeah, I think that Lamar is yeah, especially the season he has especially if he wins MVP if you if you lose in the playoff if you're Josh or Lamar and you lose early on in the playoffs. You probably don't want to win MVP, right? Yeah, you're like, yeah Maybe Josh, maybe Josh is gonna go on but if you're Lamar You're like, yeah, please. Maybe Josh, maybe Josh hasn't got one. But if you're Lamar, you're like, well, I got a third one. But again, it almost serves to like magnify your playoff loss. Right. And Josh definitely has pressure on it. The Bills have pressure on Sean McDermott, like you said. It's just that if you look at

both of those guys and what they've done in the playoffs, and obviously it's not all on the quarterback, but that is how it works is if the quarterback doesn't elevate their game. Josh has elevated his game in the playoffs. Lamar has not. So Lamar has to do that this year, because this is like, if not now, when? The good news is, have you guys seen that? I believe it is every 12 years, the Ravens win the Super Bowl. Yeah, and it's always with a 28 year old quarterback and Lamar is 28 So Trent Dilfer won it in 2002 as a 28 year old quarterback The Joe Flacco won it as a 20 quarter 20 year old quarterback in whatever year that would be do I have it?

Oh, no Flacco won in 2012 Trent Delfer won it in 2000. Yeah Flacco won it in 2012. Trent Delphi won it in 2000. Yeah, flacko won it in 2012. And it's 2024. All 28 year old quarterbacks. All right. So we've got we've got right now a sample size of two for that. Correct. But this would fulfill the pattern. Significant sample size. It's like 17 years from now, there will be another darts champion. Yeah, because that's how the prophecy has been for a tool. How sick would that be if someone just guaranteed like, hey, every 12 years, you can win a Super Bowl. I can wait that long. I would easily great. Easily take it. That's about when you would get restless for the next one. You kidding me? Yeah. Second, I think cam Dicker, the kicker for the chargers has a lot of pressure on

it just because hardball. Yes. If you blow a kick and you should, Justin Herbert would be my actual pick. Yeah. Justin Herbert. Also the kicker for the Vikings will will record. He's got a lot of pressure. Yeah. But Herbert, Herbert definitely kicker for the Vikings, will record, he's got a lot of pressure on him. Yeah, but Herbert. Herbert definitely has pressure. He's got pressure. They were beating the Jaguars at one point, but the narrative will be out there

that you can't win the playoffs. Yeah. Even though he's a very good quarterback. Also, fun fact, I just found this out yesterday. Game in Houston, the annual wild card game there. You know who's leading the Texans out onto the field? Who? Arian Foster.

Oh! Hell yeah. Yeah, so I don't know if that's good or's leading the Texans out onto the field? Who? Aaron Foster? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I lost. I don't know if that's good or bad for the Texans. I guess good. I think it's good to wear the jacket. I need to get in touch with them. They they want. No, they lost that. They lost. They got fucking yeah, they lost. That was JJ Watts jacket. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, Arian Foster will be leading the Houston Texans onto the field for this playoff game. So rocks. I'm pumped for him. But yeah, in this Foster will be leading the Houston Texans onto the field for this playoff game. So I'm pumped for him.

But yeah, in this game I would say there is some pressure on CJ Stroud, but not nearly to the extent of Herbert. And CJ Stroud also has the, as weird as it is, and the Texans going into the season were dark horse Super Bowl, and it looks like that's not gonna happen. With the amount of injuries they've had on offense,

and CJ Stroud just having not a very good year overall. It can be like hey even You could tell yourself even his floor is playoffs. Yep, so we're gonna be okay. And yeah, there's gravy teams There's teams. I mean the commanders I actually think the commanders Are going to win on sunday night. We'll talk we'll do all of our picks and analysis on friday Uh, but the commanders, you know, everything's gravy. The Broncos, everything's gravy. I even think the Chargers, Justin Herbert has pressure on them, but this was a lot quicker

to get to the playoffs than they might have expected. So it's a little bit of a gravy. The Rams, like, you gotta, Matthew Stavros getting old, but that was another one where they had a bad year last year and they were able to flip it pretty quickly. And then the other two pressure teams I had, one was the Packers. That was simply because like there's word out that maybe the Bears broke the Packers. So yeah, I hope that's not the case because I want to have, I don't want to just be one

of those teams that just beats their rival all the time. And that's unfortunately So far this year, that's exactly what's happened. Sometimes see that happen, but the opposite way Yeah, this might be a Michigan Ohio State thing Yeah, where you beat them and then they get now they get really really good Yeah, but they they can't they literally can't beat us as of recently so I'm Packers have pressure cuz that we might have just broken them and then the Eagles Nick Sirianni's got some pressure. I actually don't think he has as much pressure as he did in the beginning of the season

You think he has just as much no, I agree. I'm saying I'm nodding in agreement So what's the pressure count on on on Nick Sirianni like is if you guys flame out? What what happens I? Mean nothing nothing Yeah, I'm gonna get fired, but it might not even be under pressure I mean it's still pressure from there's always pressure from the city to win and you the team is so This is the most talented Eagles team that I've ever seen I think whoa Shot a shot at Jason Kelsey no, I think most most by the way has another show Shout out I watched the whole thing good show of course you did yep

What's your favorite part? I Liked when you watch the whole thing yeah, you know he had a nice panel He had little dicky Charles Barkley and baldie on it our guys I liked when they were just there was there was a couple bits that they did in the favorite part of the other I liked when they were just talking ball Okay, I didn't I wasn't a fan of they did a lot of bits that I wasn't a fan of but I did like when they Sat down okay, so you like Charles Barkley and then you didn't like the bits. I I love the whole show. I thought it was great. Yeah, me too. Ask me my opinion

My favorite part was when it was just Jason. Mm-hmm. No, what is Jason and his wife? Yeah Yeah, his wife was great. Yeah queen. She has a name Kylie queen queen queen Kylie. What? name. Kylie Queen Queen Queen Kylie what what are you doing? Oh alright so not a lot of pressure on Nick Sirianni. I mean there's just pressure to win in Philadelphia but there's no job there's no job pressure if that's what you're asking. Right mm-hmm right okay I uh. Do you think there's any job pressure for Kevin O'Connell? No I so. Not not in the sense of he'll be fired but kind of in the no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no Hey, can you report this because we want to put some pressure on the Vikings to actually sign this guy for what he deserves? It'd be insane if you if you're the Vikings and you traded Kevin O'Connell. Yeah, so I don't I don't think he has that type. I think they're gonna give him a lot of money no matter what the I think that there might be some truth to what you just said because he was upset that he didn't get a contract extension earlier. Right. And so he's like telling his agent, yeah, it's okay if you leak this out.

Yeah, make some noise. Because there are probably some teams that would line up to trade for him. Yeah. Now, the last one I had was the Lions, if Ben Johnson accepts a job, I don't know if he'd accept a job while they're still in the playoffs,

but he might like, I don't know how that would work. So I do think that there is some pressure on on the Lions. Yeah, there is. Well, you might lose both your coordinators. So you never know how long that's going to, you know, it's not that the Lions will all of a sudden be bad, but any team that has success and loses talented people in the organization, it makes it a little bit more difficult to get back there the next year. And if Dan Campbell, if he makes one of his super aggressive decisions, and it doesn't work out for him, then there's a lot of pressure on Dan Campbell. Yeah, then people start talking. Yeah.

But he is like he will make super aggressive decisions. 100%. That's what's going to happen. And he's a winner. He's a winner. He's a winner. Did you see the postgame video? It was awesome. In the locker room. Awesome. When I grow up I want to play football for Dan Campbell. Yeah This is like all the roads through Detroit like all the the entire thing was you understand why those guys will just do anything for him Mm-hmm and why Alex Anzaloni will rush back with you know a broken arm and they die for him. That quote from what was their Cornerbacks name the guy that said they tried to bury me But you can't bury what came from dirt. Yeah, that's great quote. Yeah great quote

I'm just excited for the playoffs. This is one of my favorite weekends of the year Excited to get into it. We're gonna do we're gonna break down each game on Friday show, but it was good to set the stage I'm also just excited not to I'm sure memes you agree just to not have our teams playing to make football look worse. It's nice to watch some good teams play. Are you feeling where's your where's your confidence at right now? PFT midweek? It's actually pretty high. Okay, I agree. So sometimes memes gets pissed at me for not being as like super confident about my team as I should be but I feel like I'm also realistic also these are this is the result of

Decades of scars of being disappointed by my team where I think most normal people They they take that forward and they are less likely to get excited about things memes is not a normal person No, so he's just like yeah, Jets will be great next week I I think that we have a very good chance against Todd Bowles and the bucks defense. Um, I'm now back big time thinking that Jayden Daniels is going to put on a crazy display where I'm talking, I think he's going to run all over the box. Ooh, that's, and I know they have a good rush defense, but I think I know what Todd Bowles is going to do.

I think I'm one step ahead of hell. Yes. And that's gotta to feel good. I've got an answer for it. That's got to feel good to know you're it's Tuesday and you're already one step ahead. I've got the game plan and guess what? I've got an answer for it. I like to I when we do our picks, I like the commanders in this game. I like him too. But again, like you mentioned, it's a really no risk. It's a free roll where if we lose in the playoffs, still great 10 out of 10 season. You just don't wanna look bad. Yeah, I don't wanna look bad.

And I would like to see Jaden play well in the playoffs. I would like to see Dan Quinn make good decisions during games. And I would like to see some spark out of a run game. It's also a win no matter what, just because there's always so many bad stats about rookie quarterbacks making their first start or just guys making their first start in the playoffs and you get this one out of the way as early as possible. Yeah I mean Jayden he luckily he played

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Well if he's listening not Hank not right now. Hey trying to interfere with my training right now, Hank How do you think people are gonna respond to my new golf shot? If it's if it is good I literally walked up and tested it today and I hit it four feet from the pin from a hundred yards out How do you think people are going to respond to it though? Listen, people online hate it. There's no perfect golf swing. Tiger Woods could post a swing and the people online would be like, blah. But you just got to do what works for

you and that swing works for you. Okay. Even though it's a drill. Haven't seen it yet. He got told to do a drill and he just had all the speed of my swing. He told me, showed me a drill where you just put all your weight on the front foot and you put your back foot all the way back. Yeah.

And that's just my new swing. I like that. Like a like a closed stance in baseball. Yeah. My hot seat are North Koreans. Oh, oh, you actually took mine Hank. Yeah. Oh, but good pick.

But yeah, if you were thinking about, you know, maybe moving to North Korea, you heard some good things. I don't think you might want to rethink it it because North Korea has banned eating hot dogs. Oh I'm out. Yeah, yeah cooking and selling hot dogs as part of a crackdown on Western culture infiltrating the hermit kingdom Yeah, they they crack down on some other stuff too besides just hot dogs You can't wear jeans no leather jackets fine. That's fine. No microwaves, okay My fires or air fryers. I don't see air fryers on here. No weed Hank. They probably that's fine. That's fine Yeah, you quit. Yeah

No slang. Yeah No slang slang That's as you good for us. Yeah, that is known as Porn no porn, but I think that was already a rule okay that's why the North Korean soldiers that went to Russia and fought against the Ukrainian they all kind of just kind of went away because they got addicted to porn yeah yeah pretty cool okay uh that was your no hot dogs no hot dogs is a deal breaker for me yeah yeah no it's my hot seat my cool throw is WWE yeah they are on Netflix on Netflix. Now I'm not a, you know, WWE guy. I think you guys are more wrestling people

when you're younger. I was not, but I mean, Netflix is the answer. Getting anything on Netflix. Like I went on Netflix last night to watch something else. And I saw WWE. I was like, I'll watch this for a little bit. I that's never happened. I've been on TV a million times. I've scrolled past it and never watched it, but it was like open Netflix WWE I was like, oh, what's this about and I realized they just own everything Yeah, they own our eyeballs, but that's gotta be great. It's gotta be great for yeah, WWE. Yeah Yeah, yes, and I heard it was awesome. Did you enjoy it? Yeah, I mean it was I watched it for like 20 minutes and then turn on dune. Okay, was your favorite part?

The the promo yeah a couple great promos Cody Rhodes, I think the rock That was our wrestling talk. Yeah My hot seat is meth streams The site we all love and have agreed silently to not discuss on the show because you don't want to talk about about streams because It'll get taken down It was a big part of I'd say my entire 20s first crack streams then it was meth streams and

The sites have been taken down And there's a note on there that says I believe it's from the owner of the site. I'll be taking a break from live streaming. Reminder that the only domains in which I operate are meth streams and crack streams. So no more meth, no more crack. Why did this happen? This guy, this guy made so many people happy by having this website. Did he just get bought out? FCC, yeah.

Or the FBI. Dana White showed up to his house and fucking beat him up. Yeah, this sucks. It's a very very sad day Very sad as I always loved the chat on the side of these streams Trying to trick you that's where you got to really oh, yeah Yeah, I was actually I was watching I was watching the caps game yesterday and for a second I had to pull up the score app and I just went over to the chat and

Every single comment in the chat on the score app was tie game. Yeah. Like people that were like, I'm at the game. They just scored. Yeah. That's Elio. It's in there. It's, it's awesome.

He does that. He's a troll in the, in the score. It was very, very funny. Um, then my cool throne is mayor's bets. They're back on, uh, this is the time of year in playoff season where the mayor's come out of the closet and they just make a bunch of bets with each other. It's always for the dorky is shit that they send back and forth But this time the mayor's bet is actually between JD Vance and Ted Cruz. Okay for the UT, Ohio State game

So Ted Cruz says hey JD Vance care for a wager Loser brings beer and food from his home state and delivers it wearing the winning jersey And then JD Vance says alright, which Texas ice cream should I have Ted bring when the Buckeyes win? It's just Meribeth season Wow, and they're always quirky the stakes couldn't be higher can't wait for this. Yeah, also Shout out fuck you to aftab pure of all the mayor of Cincinnati. He still owes me a case of Skyline chili He also they don't pay up on that shit, but I'm waiting for my case of skyline aftab Didn't it wasn't? Having the Bengals

not been in the playoffs since he got all cocky since Travis Kelsey called him a jabroni yeah I think it's been a while well they were yeah they were no they their last playoff game was a loss to the Chiefs yeah the AFC championship game I think there's an aftab curse yeah until until you send me my skyline, you're never going to make the playoffs, buddy. OK, my hot seat is Concussion Protocol. Oh, why? Jalen Hurts is still in it. But isn't that cool throwing Concussion Protocol

because they're taking good care of him? That's true. Good point. I'm nervous. It's crazy, Shefty tweeted that when he didn't even have the concussion test that day. Correct. Yeah. He's crazy. Literally could not have been out of concussion protocol yesterday. It's crazy because I needed that tweet to have this. You're you're I mean, it's crazy.

I told PFT my panic level was at a four out of 10 yesterday. It's at a two. It's down to a two out of all the tweet made it go. Okay Well, then a lot of people cuz I got it I got worried and then a lot of people were like He literally cannot be out of concussion protocol until Wednesday. So yes, that is technically correct, but You won't We won't know anything until Thursday. Mmm, because he has to practice a full day Mmm, and then the next day wake up with no symptoms and then you're out of sounds like we're running out of time So if you practice his Wednesday, you want him to play I know I do like this is what I'm saying

I want you to respect concussion protocol work. Yes, it doesn't work. I want to let like the Packers No, I want him to play big cat. I want you and I want you I want you to Acknowledge that it's a concern. It's not until Thursday. Okay. Wait, that's not, you told me yesterday it was a concern. But that's because I didn't know the rules.

But no. Sorry, sorry I was concerned of my stupidness. You should be more concerned. Max kind of has a point. I've been concerned. No, but he's trolling. What are you talking about? No, this is bullshit. I'm the one who's concerned. Max kind of has a point. I've been concerned. No, but he's talking about the one who's concerned. I'm saying get him out of concussion protocol. This is crazy.

I know how the concussion protocol. You don't respect it. I do. Part of you wants him to not play. No, no, absolutely not. That is the Packers win that game. Then I got pft. Look at pft's face. I don't. I mean there is a part. No. Yes No, there's zero one trolling this horrors zero part. I've got some joy out of the concussion protocol Yes, I told you on Sunday. I wanted one more more one more day, and then I need him out So what happens on like what what would happen on Thursday? We're getting today? That's no update until we're still not in problem territory You you can't get out of concussion protocol until you practice a full day and then wake up the next day if he's in concussion Protocol on Thursday max. I will be more concerned than you. They're not practicing today or tomorrow Wednesday is their first practice

I will be very upset if he's not out of our own. Oh, correct. Yeah. Yeah, and today when the show comes out I told you my timeline. I have a timeline for the concussion protocol And today when the show comes out, I told you my timeline. I have a timeline for the concussion protocol. Uh, I mean, no, you're Packer Dan. That's no, I'm not. I have a timeline. My timeline is expired after today. I said to this to you on Sunday, I want one more day. And chef T doing that tweet was awesome and crazy. It's, I mean, it was just absolute rage bait. That's all I mean Yeah, how long is it? I think he did that I think he did that tweet just for you maybe Has it been what?

12 days I Don't know It's been a long time Cush protocols bad like I care about him as a person first and foremost Yeah, is Jordan love okay? You say he's like the tenth best quarterback in the playoffs. Oh, that's trust. It was trust rankings Yeah, because I Did not I did all the quarterbacks ahead of him have played good Super Bowl games, right? What?

Jalen hurts nine item nine. Yeah, I had a Jordan love Let's call me Pat again again Jordan love stinks Also me big cat and Hank each took four guys So the the least we could have him is number four True on our personal rosters. No. Yeah, I was speaking of mine He had him at nine. Well, that's because he's in the concussion protocol you fucking idiot My cool throne is fart coin Fart coin if you bought fart coin a month ago you outperform the entire stock market since

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Find Kevin's natural foods in the refrigerated section of your local grocer. And now here's Diana Rossini. Okay. We now welcome on our very good friend. It is Diana Rossini, senior NFL reporter for the athletic. You can find her on the athletic also scoop city podcast. She does very good. She has her ear to the streets of all the NFL coaching and GM hirings and firing. So Black Monday's done. I'll start with this, Diana. What was the most shocking thing that happened on Black Monday that you, league-wide, you were just like, everyone's confused as to why this occurred? Yeah, it was less about the firings and more about who was being retained.

Yeah. Like, I would say from the, like, let's just start with the firing category. I'm shocked the Patriots really did it. There was a lot of chatter about it, but I can't believe they really pulled the trigger, but in terms of those that were retaining, like, I can't believe the Giants kept Josheen and Brian Dable. I cannot believe it from everything we saw in Hard Knocks to obviously Saquon Barkley having the most ridiculous season to the mess with Daniel Jones,

to winning just three games. season to the mess with Daniel Jones to winning just three games. All of the drama in New York, it just seemed like this was the time. This isn't working. And just even from things I know, this isn't working. But John Maris sticking with his words that he said in October, which was that he didn't want any change yet. Did you hear him talking about retaining them? Like it's like painful for him.

To say that he was... These guys are going to have to win every game. Otherwise they're going to be walking up the field going, am I getting fired today? And I just think it's a really... They're being put in a really, really hard spot. In Jacksonville too, with GM Trent Bulky. I think that one was pretty surprising. A lot of people thought he'd be out.

Yeah. Yeah. And with Doug Peterson being gone, and it shocked me to find this out yesterday are good for an uncle chap sent me a very Sad Jaguars stat that Doug Peterson actually has the third best winning percentage of all time For the Jaguars and the history of their franchise and so Bucky sticks around he's a survivor. You can't get rid of that guy What does that mean for the Jags coaching search does that make it like which which coaches? Do you think would be less likely to work with a guy like Trent? Bill Belichick. Yeah. Yeah, Jim Harbaugh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one Look, I think that job is actually more coveted than you'd realize. Um, you know when you take a look big picture

I would say, let's just put it in order. I'd go Patriots, Bears, Jags, in terms of openings of what coaches I know that I've been talking to want. And the Jags roster with Trevor Lawrence, there's not this belief around the league that Trevor Lawrence is not the guy right even though it hasn't been great Every coach wants a quarterback you have to go to a place to have success that has a quarterback in place That's decent and that that can win you games And those are those three teams Which is why everyone is trying to get those interviews and you see everyone is off and running

But the trend bulky situation is to me that just I read it as the owner doesn't want to go through the process of searching for a head coach without some guidance. These guys are not football guys. They don't know. Look at the Jets. They hired a search firm of people they fired just to do it so they didn't have to write. Right. That sounded mean. That sounded like that was targeted at me. Yeah. Did you mean to target that at memes? Be honest. No, I look, I don't like

memes, but I don't not like like, I like the Jets. Yeah. That's I don't know about that. No, it'd be good for you. I think the Jets were good, right? People don't know this. I grew up a Jets fan. I live. Be your own people. It be your own people like that. I want to do be successful, but it's the same story over and memes. You feel this and you're a lot younger than me. So you don't, your pain is different than mine. And mine is much worse. Um, they've been making these mistakes that are so ridiculous, um, every single year. And it just seems like they can't get out of their own way as, as you guys know guys know and have been following all the reporting. Yeah, so let's talk about the Jets. So Mike Greenberg got an interview to be the GM for the Jets. That sounds like a dream job for him.

But who are you hearing in terms of their coaching options right now? Well, last week they had Ron Rivera in the building and Mike Vrabel in the building at Florham Park with the team out practicing at the same time. Just wild, but that's what they chose to do. They are casting a very, very wide net as you're seeing almost to a point where I wonder if Mike Tanabom's getting paid per interview. It's just like every, I'm sure you guys were following along yesterday. How many slips went, I must've typed the word jets 50 times yesterday in terms of um, you know Coaches that that are going to be taking and general managers interviews with them. Um

Look, I think erin glenn Brian flores brian greasy arthur smith joe brady. I mean matty Smith, Joe Brady, I mean. Matt Nagy? Matt Nagy, yeah. Yeah, Matt Nagy's gonna get a job, I think, in this cycle. He's getting a lot of love behind the scenes from teams. And I think Nagy was, I think the best move he made was to go back to Kansas City, sort of reset, figure out where he messed up, what mistakes he made,

get that confidence back up by being around, you know, the greatest to do it. And he's ready to go. So I'm interested to see what his staff is going to look like, because that's obviously going to be an important element in all this. Yeah. Is that an unusual thing to do, to have two coaches that are interviewing for your job, go out and watch practice at the same time? Yes, that is weird. It's very weird. watch practice at the same time? Yes, that is weird. It's very weird. It's also like, look at the Bears, right? They technically could have had Ron Rivera, Mike Vrabel come in last week. You know, they had that ability to do it. Right. They chose not to do it because, well, first of all, the Chicago Bears,

their first round of interviews are all virtual. Okay. So you're not, Mike Rabil and Ron Rivera, not flying in there. Um, that Ron's not going there by the way, but, um, everything's virtual first. And then through those virtual interviews, then they're going to pick the guys for their, for the, for the next round to come in to, to meet in person. And obviously the bears don't think Mike Rabil is too big to interview. Yeah. Yeah. He should like... Guys, I, I, no, no. What? No. You reported that.

I... I was amplifying your reporting. We've done this. We've done this so many times and it's so... How big is too big? Annoying. If he lost 20 pounds, would he get a job? Okay.

I was thinking about, I was like, I'm not telling them this, but I'm gonna tell you. Yes. Somebody from the Jets said, damn, he's really big. Yeah. I know. I know. I've been saying this.

That sounds like Brick. Yeah. Brick was like, damn. Yeah. Yeah, Brick standing next to Brick for sure. Yeah. And no, Brick and Jack were not in the interviews from what I heard, and they're not participating in the ones that are going down with Rex Ryan

in Palm Beach. But the awesome listeners of the show will come up to me and ask me if I've destroyed my grievous career because I said that teams don't like that he's fat, which is so not what I reported. No, we never say he was fat. We never say he's fat.

He's a big man. He played football. He's powerful. The general manager said to me that Mike Rabel is very intimidating to a lot of people, that his personality, his size. That's all I said. And it wasn't just one general manager. It was multiple.

It's also- People are like, oh, this one general manager. It was multiple. It's also It's also that's that's on the general managers because variable is not that intimidating once you get to know him He's just a big guy. He's a strong guy. He's a strong masculine man. He's a leader of men I want him as the Bears head coach. So alright, let me ask you about the bears This is my thought process. You can grade my thought process. Tell me I'm crazy This is my thought process. You can grade my thought process. Tell me I'm crazy Whatever you you want to go with this. So the I want variable or Ben Johnson The Patriots are probably gonna have variable right? I would assume Ben Johnson is not done in it He not accepted an interview with the Jets or the Saints

They never they never reach out because he's basically was like I I'm not doing it. So it's, yeah, people are back. Yeah. Yeah. And so he's not doing that. So it's down to there's, there's two seats. There's two guys, variable and Ben Johnson for three seats, the Jaguars, the Patriots and the bears. Balky coming back. Does this mean that once variable takes a job with the Patriots, then Ben Johnson might be the target for the Bears or vice versa. Look, as someone has had to report a lot of crappy news to you over the last few weeks, I think this will be, I think it's good for you. I think when the current ball game news broke, you that for your back, your back. I think Ben Johnson still has a lot of questions about

management in both of those organizations, which I think is pretty well known at this point. There are questions. Ryan Poles is leading the search. Ryan Poles is not going anywhere. I think there's some Chicago people who believe he's gonna get fired at some point here when the search ends. Kevin Warren and Ryan Poles are in lockstep in this search.

And they 100% have their eye on Ben Johnson and Mike Vribel for sure as their top candidates. So let's say in this world, and it would be, I guess, Hank's best world, Graves goes to New England. Yeah, I think Ben Johnson, the chance of him landing in Chicago are much better now that Tram Bucky is in Jacksonville, which if you're a Jags fan, it's like, Oh my goodness, are you kidding? What are we doing?

Yeah. What are we doing? But I'm interested to hear what happens after these interviews because you find out a lot about these organizations and what their plans are and how they envision themselves and what the philosophies are. And when you find out what kind of questions they've been asking. Yeah. So we'll see what they're after. Do you think, what,

what would the percentage chance be? Because I've, I've, I've played this whole thing out and obviously I want Ben Johnson, but I do think that him staying at the lions is still a possibility. So what, I'm so glad you said that. I, I'm so glad you said it because I had somebody yesterday text me was like, hey, don't forget. There's a world where Ben Johnson stays and looks at this coaching cycle and goes, this is not for me. Right.

This is not what I'm signing up for. Damn. And weirdly, like that drives the price up every year. Yeah. That he says no. But it's like, oh, I got to get this guy. Yeah. Yeah. Look, he's great. He's an awesome play caller. I love his self awareness, his understanding of, look, I've only been to the playoffs twice in my life. I want to

I wanted to come back to Detroit to just watch not only this team get back, but watch how they handle success because that's another part of growth as a coach of not just dealing with the problems dealing with when things are good and how to manage your team and how to make good coaching decisions. So I appreciate that emotional maturity, but at some point here, you got to jump in the pool. You got to do this thing. Well, a good cautionary tale is Lou Anarumo room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room,

a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room, a room Johnson to the Bears. You look at it this way. The second the Detroit line's stake, his chances are going to go away. That's just the reality. How many times have we seen this where like you just mentioned, Lew defense was tremendous in the Superbowl. He's considered the Patrick Mahomes killer and he fired him. Is he going to get a job somewhere? Yeah. I think Lew's one of those coordinators. I don't mean to be insensitive to the process because I'm sure he was hurt and upset about it,

but he's one of those, they get fired and you go, all right, which head coaching candidate is going to bring Lou Ararumo on as their DC? And I can tell you there are several right now who are talking to him to try to see what he wants to do next. Ben Johnson, to the the Bears with Lou. They coach together in Miami.

I've already done this all in my head. I've gotten way too deep with all the connections. I do like that format though when you get a younger head coach and then he brings in a guy that's just been around for forever to kind of like show him like what Wade Phillips did in LA when McVeigh was out there. He's like the guy for a while there where like you bring that veteran presence of like nah, oh, look at Brian Callahan in Tennessee, right? He brought his dad. Yeah. Yeah. To help out,

you know, Tennessee Titans fired their general manager, Rand Carthag. Yeah. So the statement that they put out today was really, really strange. They said that Rand was hired to be like the description of the job was different when they brought him in, which was to be in lockstep with the head coach. Now the description of that job has changed, which also implies that now Rand's job is to be like Brian Callahan's daddy and tell him what to do all the time. And he didn't fit that job description. What happened in Tennessee? Well, he's got a daddy. His daddy's on his daddy's daddies. Two daddies. Look, I, I'm going more big picture.

You just go back one year ago, just one year ago when they were making a decision of what to do with the general manager position after John Robinson obviously was let go and we know what came with that with the A.J. Brown trade and all the things with communication issues that he had with the owner. They move on. All right. So they collaborate with like variable at the time and say, okay, what do we want to do next? Variable goes, I want to go with my, my player personnel guy, Ryan Cowden, who's now currently with the New York Giants. Guy kind of understands how I work.

We view things the same way. And he's like a real football guy. He's a true scout. And the Titans said, no, we want Rand Carthon. He's the guy. And from what I understand, Rebel just made the suggestion of, hey, like, I like Rand too. He's a great dude. Let's just make him an assistant GM and let him grow on the job with Ryan. And then when the time is right, you know, he can get a GM job and they didn't want to do it. And then in the end, they obviously fired Mike Reuvel, gave the power to Rand Carthon here. And now a year later, Rand Carthon is out.

So to me, this says they don't know what they want. This also says to me that they make emotional decisions, which are the worst times. Which is, I think there's a difference too in making emotional decisions. Robert Kraft was emotional talking about the Gerard Mayo, but I don't think that's emotion. I don't think that's just a reaction to a bad year.

This is not up to the standard I need this team to be. This in Tennessee is is I have to blame someone. I'm sick of it. Go for somebody to fix this. Rand. It's not you. Goodbye. That's going to be such a shitty feeling as a GM. You have the number one pick. Like you're excited for a couple of weeks. Like after week 18, you're like, fuck yeah. Okay. Now it's Rand season, baby. And then it's like, no, you don't even get to make that choice. You'll get to open this present. Yeah, that sucks. Yeah. But yeah But yeah no I can see that that's there is a difference between being emotional about a decision that you made and then making

this the decision because your emotions took over. Correct. And look it's human nature to be emotional about it and be frustrated and angry but I think they were emotional when they fired their head coach last year and it sounds like they're emotional here. I don't know if that's a great quality to have when you're running a business. We get back to Diana Racini in a second. She's being brought to you by Prime and Wild Card Playoffs. They're coming on Saturday. We got TJ Watt and the Steelers taking on Lamar Jackson and the Ravens in a playoff

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video. What's going to happen with Mike McCarthy because his presence and it's a large presence Is he too large to get a head coaching job might be it's it's messing me up mentally because what the Bears are really good at is they've interviewed they're interviewing every single person that's ever coached football and There's some names on that list that scare the fuck out of me So then I find myself being like well Mike, Mike McCarthy is better than this guy. And then I have to take a step back and be like, wait a second. Am I talking myself into Mike McCarthy?

So can he just stay in Dallas so I don't have to talk myself into Mike McCarthy? No, I think the chances of him staying in Dallas are fair. I think that could happen. Look, I know that they did a little bit of work on some head coaches behind the scenes of the last few weeks So it wouldn't shock me if they also move on I just don't like how they're going about their business

How they're just kind of hanging them out to dry right now trying to figure out what he's gonna do next this entire year Is really hard if you're him. Yeah of you know Not knowing what's going to be next Look, I think if Mike McCarthy does wind up moving on or the Dallas Jerry says, yeah, we're going to go in a different direction, I 100% think he has a good shot at getting that Chicago Bears shot. That would be the funniest possible. Yeah. Funniest possible outcome. I think it's the worst. I've thought about this about it, Dan. I'm like, I don't know why I'm imagining your

pain that I have. I'm like, you wouldn't look, Dan, so angry that I don't know why I'm imagining your pain, but I have. Dan's soul angry that I don't even want to be around. David Shaw. I I've like, I don't want Brian Flores, but I've somehow talked myself into maybe the second time around who'd be better. But I I'm I just don't want a defensive guy except for Mike Vrabel who he he's a different cat because he's hired in the past at OC. They go on to be head coaches right. Arthur Smith Matt LaFleur he obviously knows how to pick a good OC. So I that's a good point. Anthony Weaver is a name don't want hearing a lot of teams are putting in for he spent three years at the Baltimore Ravens right now he's the DC for the Miami Dolphins coach who's with the

Texans. Another, another large man. Yeah. But he, I don't want to say he's like variable light, because that's taking away from from Anthony's abilities individually, but he has a great way of connecting with players, holding them accountable. But he's just a little bit more laid back. He's cool, but he's smart. So I can tell you, people in Baltimore, they think that this is going to be the run he gets. This is the cycle, he'll be a head coach. It's time. So you shouldn't be disappointed if that becomes a real thing. I just don't want a defensive coordinator. I want, I want an offensive guy.

I want someone who's, who's going to come in here and be like, Caleb Williams, we have to do everything. This organization has to do everything in its power to make Caleb Williams great. And so that's all I'm scared about. What other name in Chicago was Cliff Kingsbury that people thrown out? I don't want it myself into that. I don't want it because I selfishly want to keep him around in Washington. And I think he's a, he's a very good OC. Didn't work out for him at all as a head coach. And he's one of these guys where when they get fired from being a head coach, they immediately

say like in that moment of truth, after, after you realize what you just got freed from, like yeah, being a head coach kind of sucks. Like that might not be for me, but then a year later though, these guys are like, yeah, I want to coach football again. Like they forget so fast. Well, going back to what we were talking about, how everyone knows there's such a small chance of getting those jobs. So you do it, you take it, even if you're not ready, you just, you just do it. But I think Cliff has had some time here, time off away, as we know, he traveled the

world to sort of recenter himself. And now that he's having so much success as a coordinator, and he's told me in the past too, I like play calling. Like all the other crap that comes with being a head coach and all the headaches that you have to deal with and the things that you have to think about and manage, it's exhausting. So I do think he will take an interview, but I think when it comes down to it, it's exhausting. So I do think he will take an interview, but I think when it comes down to it, it may be one of those

situations where he decides to just stay in Washington. Yeah. All right. So memes, I think has some questions for you before we do that, though. A question on Max's behalf. Is Jalen Hertz gonna ever clear the concussion protocol? I am not happy about this. This is concerning to me. Yeah. This has been over two weeks. Look, Wednesday's practice day is going to be the most important part of this process, obviously, because we'll know if he's cleared. But we're obviously starting here, the playoffs and

the starting quarterback is still in concussion protocol. Yeah. So yeah, Max, you should be freaking out, my friend. You should be freaking out. The word I heard was concerned. How are things in your- What, Max, what? This is obviously PFT just texting her ahead of time to say this.

No. 100%. Why are you concerned for his brain, dude? Are you saying that her integrity as a reporter is so low that I could text her and make her put out a false report? You don't respect women. That's not what I said. That's not what I said.

You sound like memes. What I am saying is that actually, I don't know, don't you need to, can't you not clear concussion protocol until a practice day? Correct. So that there was no way of clearing concussion protocol yesterday. But Schaeffer did tweet it. On Wednesday. But remember, Max, this is the news that you have to watch. He will get tested again.

If he gets tested and fails, he's got to go through the whole thing again. Oh, no. He's got to do the colors, the alphabet, everything. Count backwards by seven. How are things inside your own house? Is your husband as deeply into the Tanner McKee lore as Max is? Oh, yeah. Look, I'm at a point now where I manage, Kevin, husband as as deeply into the Tanner McKee lore as Max's? Oh yeah it's look

I'm at a point now where I manage Kevin the way you guys manage Max like it's the same with the same person so I understand what he's doing I know what he's dealing with all the obnoxiousness and the concerns and the my favorite thing to do because we're always we have a big calendar in our kitchen because we're busy and the big calendar you need the big calendar yeah we're like a have a big calendar in our kitchen because we're busy and the big calendar. You need the big calendar. Yeah. We're like a 1983 home. Like it's gigantic instead of using phones. Yeah. And I will just do this. I'm like, well, if the Eagles get bounced out of the first round, da da da.

I mean, just you want to cause havoc. I've been planning things. I've been planning things on Sundays and I put them in there. He's like, I don't know why I'm putting things in there. I don't know why I'm doing that. That's great. All right, memes. You got questions? I have two questions.

OK. The first one's from me and the other's from Tom Lay. He's a coworker, also a Jets fan. Mine is, who's your source inside the Jets building and why do they keep showing up for a job they hate? Okay, and then the follow-up for Tom lay What's your fucking problem It's good questions good questions would you like to address either of those yeah, it's the janitor everyone always says it's the custodian

It's the janitor. Everyone always says it's the custodian. It's the security guard. It's the cheerleader. It's it's actually Sala. He's still at the building. Yeah. Yeah. It's Joe Bonino. It's it's any New York jet fan. If you come up to me and just tell me a story about the Jets, I'll report it.

Meem's going to be the New York Times. They don't care. Meem's doesn't know sarcasm. He's going to be like, she said, she said it. I knew that she finally admits it. I know. Means you do hate my reporting. I have noticed it. And I realize that you I think I don't think you hate me.

I just think you hate the information that I'm putting out there. Is that true? Yeah. He can't separate it. Yeah, no. think you hate the information that I'm putting out there. Is that true? Yeah, he can't separate it. Yeah, no, the whole messenger shoot the message you are shoots the message to him. You are the news. Yeah. Like he it's easier to get mad at you than it would be to like, I'm the one who did that. Yes. So speaking of the Jets with the Rex Ryan thing, do you think it's a good strategy for Rex Ryan to say like, I'm going to go in there and tell Aaron Rodgers that the country club days are over?

It's brilliant. It's brilliant. I love what Rex is doing right now. I'm all behind this campaign. It's ridiculous, but it's smart because he's telling the Jets, I want this job. I'm going to do this job. You know, you're so overwhelmed by someone's confidence that You're like, wait, maybe they are good. Yeah, he's telling them what he wants them to believe. Whereas you think Mike variable was sitting there going, I want this job. I'm doing this job. I know how to fix this. Ron Rivera wasn't doing that. Right. So you're getting a different message. So he's going to separate himself. Yeah, to me, it's worth the risk. Yeah, it'd be fun. Big shot. See, I have one question about the Raiders because we talked about the

teams that didn't do anything. I'm not sure that we can put the Raiders into that category just yet. Because I think Mark Davis is kind of just like thinking it over. I don't know. He's taking his time. What's going on with Tom Brady and the Raiders and relationship with Mark Davis? and do you is Antonio Pierce safe? Yeah so it's the Tom Brady influence is bigger than I think people realize. I know he's the minority owner and there were some question marks of like all right well he'll be in the background. Tom Brady's not gonna be has Tom Brady ever been in the background of anything right like he's full on in

the decision- making for the Vegas Raiders. He talks to Mark Davis all the time. And I think you're going to see tons of Tom Brady ways and just influence on how this team is going to run. So I think the question that we probably need to consider is, is Tom Brady and Antonio Pierce fan? Does he like what he sees? I'm gonna guess probably not from his personal history with the Giants.

I don't think it has to do with the Giants. I just think look how Tom likes to do things. It's discipline. It's New England, right? It's the Patriot way. It's it's tight. It's accountability. It's all the things that we know. It's everything that Hank is. This is just I don't think Antonio Pierce runs his team that way. Yeah. You know, I'm not saying one is better than the other. I just think when it comes down to it, it goes back to that that

comfort of, I know I can operate with that. So who's on who's left that can do something in the way that Tom Brady wants it? Brian Flores, Mike Ramo, right? Like there's New England again. Shiano. Shiano. No one's talking about she on. Are we doing this again. No one's talking about she always talk about she on. She talk about. Is it Mike Braymore to the Patriots is done. I don't think so. He's meeting with the Bears. He's meeting with the Saints. OK. I'm curious when he's going to meet with the Patriots. That's the one I haven't seen yet. Okay. I'm going to go dig on that. Okay. And Hank is all in on this, right? Yeah. Oh yeah. He reported it already. Yeah, he

did. He reported it. So you reported my variable to the Patriots? Based on his feelings. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. That's our reporting standard here. Do you feel something? I actually think that's the least interesting hire though. Like it's like, yeah, it's that's our reporting standard here is do you think that's the least? Interesting higher though like it's like yeah, it's great and it's cool and returns home But that that's not like a shocking move that happens no I actually like expected to happen I want it to happen so it's like the the chessboard starts to clear up a little Yeah, I mean if he picks the Jags, then I'm like holy cow like that that came out Yeah, do you have time for one last question? I know that you have another thing coming up to the robot question.

Ro back question joggers, hoodies, shorts, BAC, BAC, K.com promo code, take 20% off joggers, these shorts. Okay. So is there, is there a college coach that is drawing interest that maybe we haven't heard about as much because I'm thinking about two guys. Not Chiano. Dabo because he hates coaching college now it seems like he's fed up with the transfer portal in IELTS stuff. And then Sark. Fine, like those are, I don't think those two are going to be in the cycle. Okay.

I don't know what Sark wants to do. But every coach in college likes that buzz of the NFL. Bill O'Brien is the name I'm watching. I know he loves Boston College and they love him up there. But that's a name I'm watching. Matt Campbell is a name I'm watching. Okay. Yeah. I don't know about, but Bill O'Brien, I think I said Raiders would make a lot of sense for Bill O'Brien. There's another New England connection. I forgot about that. I didn't connect that. That's great. Yeah. Look, the question was could I see these college coaches maybe getting an opportunity? Yeah, but I haven't heard any of these yet. But those are the names if I had a guess at this point, I'd keep an eye on them.

Okay. Do teams have to announce when they do an interview? They just like to do it. It's not, it's not, um, but they don't have to. They could interview someone that we don't know about. And then all of a sudden it's like, well, that's the coach. Yeah. They just like to let the world know. They just like to let the fan bases go. Look, we're working. Yeah. The Jaguars publishing their list of people that they've asked to interview for the job was pretty

strange. Yeah. See, I would, the teams putting out comments that they're retaining their coaches and GMs. When did we start doing this? I know. Yeah. I know. Yeah. If I were, if I were running a team, I would just go like, cry. I'd be like, yeah, we're interviewing the ghost of Vince Lombardi. We're interviewing, uh, just, you know, George Washington, I would move in silence. Yeah. But that's how I would do it. But don't you think if you have to put out a statement, like, do you think the chiefs are going to put out Andy Reed is funny?

Yeah. After they win the Superbow Bowl decided to retain it. We're gonna stick around. The Rams are like we love Sean McVay. He's allowed to return back. Like you know, yeah. All right. Well, Diana, thank you so much. We appreciate it. We love having you on and we'll see you at the combine. We'll see you Super Bowl week. We'll see you at the combine and you know, don't just let me down easy. If you know, if you find out something before I see it, just let me down. I you know if you find out something before I see it. Just let me down. I'm hoping this all comes together on your 40th birthday.

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It is our college football expert, not by choice, but by a stupid tournament that we did and he happened to win. It is Brandon Walker, who has already made demands on this studio. He demanded the couch be put back because Hank was sitting on a Vanny Woodhead chair, which Vanny Woodhead is near and dear to our heart. Yeah, Vanny Woodhead's chair, which Vanny Woodhead's near and dear to our heart. Yeah, Vanny Woodhead's, it's our van. Sure, sure. Hank just said unilaterally that he was going to move the chair, install the chair, and

then whenever we'd have a guest off, he'd force memes to come in here and move the entire couch back. Right. Two things. Oh, did you just do two things? Okay. A, I'm not a guest, I'm part of the show now as the resident college football expert. And B, the couch has nothing to do with me, I'm sitting on the couch but you guys are

engaging in the couch fight with Hank right now. True or false, you sat down on the chair and you said, what's this chair? True, but I really was, I didn't know what the chair was. I rest my case. I didn't know, but Hank is the one- But as part of the show, shouldn't you know that it's Vandy Woodhead? Aren't you and Hank fighting? But didn't you just say you're part of the show, you don't know Vandy Woodhead?

I don't know the intro because he's a Vandy Woodhead, I'm aware's Vanny woodhead aren't you and Hank fighting, but didn't you just say you're part of the show? You don't know if any would I don't know the intricacies of any would have For Nelly well, you know what he doesn't know about college football and that's why I'm here I walk yeah, well Brandon's also not his ass isn't really built for a chair. It's more of a couch ass I I sat in the chair. I immediately got concerned. I was gonna break the chair Yeah, there were concerns with the chair half, But Hank and is fighting the chair battle not me. I don't care if the chairs here or not One way as well, I do have I want our guests to be as comfortable as possible here. Okay. All right, so you're here I'm ah, all right. Wait, are you a guest on your own show now? No, I'm not a guest but you might be a guest on your own show

I'm in a pretzel now. What what do it? How do I get out of it? Shrigs make Brandon really fat in the cover art Yeah, that's how you get on go ahead. I know that I was talking I wasn't talking to you I understand that but why would you do that? You don't even have to do that much. I wasn't talking to you I was talking to tricks wait wait in at 273 yesterday. I'm trying to I thought I was 265 Yeah, Brandon told me that he ordered a dark chicken for lunch instead of having the chicken breast meal That we had for lunch. Yes the whole office thinking it was healthier. I think that's actually way worse So you're probably up to 76 now. I love that dark meat. Ah Brandon yes, Jason Whitlock over college. Yeah, I know what I'm watching watch it cans stay away

He said can't you said a huge rack? Yeah, he's a huge rather several times gotta stay away. He said, can you direct? Yeah, he's a huge several times. Got to stay away. Yeah. I've never seen someone cope harder with not being able to get laid. Yeah. I wouldn't allow myself around her because I knew I knew you get me in the same room as that. Yeah. I'll tell you one that huge rack. So I'll me, me and my wife have a deal. I can never be in the same room as Sydney Sweeney. That's right. You know, you, you know what I'm capable of. Uh, all right. So Brandon college football playoff. We want to talk about the matchups. Sure. We're down to four. Yeah. Overall, how would you say the first college football playoff has gone? Are you one of the, the, the, let me ask this a better way. Why is it that college

football seems like there's just an endless amount of fans that just don't seem to like the sport? It's the only sport that really gets meticulously picked apart for the quality of its games. Doesn't really happen to the NBA playoffs or the NHL playoffs. Doesn't really happen to anybody else. It's the only sport where if there's a bad game, it is suddenly an indictment of the entire sport. Correct. Whereas a playoff is just that. You are playing off to find out who's the best team at the end. There's no guarantee you're gonna have some aesthetically pleasing games along the way. You've just collected through a 12-game sample size who

deserves to be here. We pretty much got that this year. I don't know that it was perfect but we got that. We can't help that some of the games weren't as good. The Super Bowl when PFCI were growing up, you're in your like 30s in the 90s, was always a blowout. Yeah it just seemed like you're just going out of your way to take shots at sometimes. Like oh you're part of the show. I think that because they installed this new playoff then there are now a bunch of people out there that are looking at it and trying to tweak it trying to move around trying to add things trying to inject their own

ideas into it. You've got to be careful with that. You got to be careful because if you do too much you're gonna become the NBA and you don't want that. People believe that the playoff was implemented because it was supposed to be careful with that. You've got to be careful because if you do too much, you're going to become the NBA. And you don't want that. People believe that the playoff was implemented because it was supposed to be some grand fix. Well, it wasn't fixing because nothing was broken. It was just a better way to determine a champion. It's more seats at the table.

It's more excitement. And it gave us an October and November that were unparalleled in excitement. November had games. Would anybody have cared about Ole Miss Florida in previous years? No. Would anybody have cared about certain games? No. It gave us a great November. It gave us a bad first round, but then it also gave us Texas, Arizona State, which was remarkable.

But the other, the pushback I always have for people is, so the first round sucked. What was the alternative of the first round? It would have been Indiana and Tennessee playing in a bowl game that half the players opted out and no one gave a fuck. So yeah, it was a blowout, but all the players were playing and they were trying their hardest. And I'd rather watch that even if it's a blowout. People are nostalgic liars about college football. They're like, well, we should go back to how it used to be 30 years ago. Penn state goes undefeated and gets nothing. They get nothing. Right. There, there, there are these times in history where we're just letting sports riders decide. So we've come step by step by step. The 12-team playoff I think is the best way to do it until we have a 16-team playoff, which will be better.

Which we will. How about we compromise? How about we keep the current format but the winner gets the old trophy? That could work. Now I will say this year it might have, and you don't know this, this is year to year, maybe eight teams was enough for this year, but you can't go based on, you can't do that. Yeah, and the fixes that I do think should happen are you don't do the automatic buy. The seeding. That should be, it should just be the four best teams get a buy. Yeah. And there should be, the first two rounds should be on campus because I do think what

we're finding is part of college football, it's obviously the game, but it's the atmosphere as well. And when you ask a fan base to travel potentially three times in a three week stretch, you just aren't going to get the same atmosphere. You're just not like the fan. The crowds are not going to be the same as they were when it was like, here's our one big bowl game. It also takes time to build up to that schedule, to make it part of a fan base's routine, where if you're a big school that has national title aspirations every year that you just pencil in. Okay. Like late December through mid January, I gotta keep my calendar open because it might be on the road. Yeah. I mean, if you're a Texas fan, you're in your second straight playoff or you're going to, uh, I don't even

know where they played that last game. Were they the F Bowl were they yeah yeah no they weren't the Fiesta Bowl they were the Peach Bowl are you going to Atlanta knowing that you might have two other trips in the next two weeks maybe you're not maybe you say well I'll get them the next time so it creates some some some issues and stuff but there are small issues we have to work towards overall this is a better way to do it than we've ever had and it is going to get tweaked. The buys, the auto buys for conference champions got to go away. That has to go away.

It created a spot where the sixth seed had the easiest path to where we are right now, which I think Penn State probably was good enough to get there anyway. I'm not going to hold it against them, but they had an easier path than say Oregon. Yeah, Oregon got screwed. Oregon should have just lost the big 10 championship game and they And they still probably would be alive. Yeah. Yeah. They would have gotten a home game. They would have won it. Then they would have gone on. They wouldn't have had the rest that they dealt with against Ohio State. Now I have state killed him so much. You can't really blame that, but, uh, still

there were issues and we'll, we'll fix them along the way. I'll say, yeah, good. Oh, I was going to say, I think the other thing we agree on Brandon is that the national championship game should be at the Rose Bowl. We don't believe in that. agree on Brandon is that the national championship game should be at the Rose Bowl. We don't believe in that. You and you try to make it personal with me about the Rose Bowl because you try to make it personal with me a lot about a lot of things. No, I don't. You make it personal. You like to point fingers and say Brandon Walker hates the Rose Bowl and you turn everyone against me by saying, no, I don't hate the Rose Bowl. I think the Rose Bowl is magnificent and wonderful. And it is also absolutely in love with itself

and thinks it's bigger than the sport and the Rose Bowl needs to be taken down a peg. The Rose Bowl holds up college football progress. It's done it before it stands in the way it has to have things its way and it is not that special. Are you describing the Rose Bowl or the SEC? It is special. Good one PFT. Literally everything. Not the worst counterpoint. Yes, not the worst counterpoint I've ever heard. But it's better his

counterpoints. Well, he just says I hate it. No, I don't hate it. I just think it's in love. You get a migraine if you want the fucking, uh, the Texas Arizona state game. They are in overtime playoff game. The Rose bowl, the Rose bowl will not hold on. The Rose bowl keeps you keep saying the farts thing, but the farts smell incredible. They smell like roses. I don't think the Rose bowl far smell that good. Oh well Brandon they had to they had to kick off because the game is built it's not it doesn't go by your fancy box. Correct. It goes by the sun. Football's not about sunsets. Oh wait so you don't respect the sun? Football's not about sunsets. Also there's a- Imagine that not respecting the sun? There was a there's an

airplane that was you don't even know what they fly over for the Rose Bowl. No you don't. You didn't know either did you? What are you fucking kidding me? What fly over did you not know? Are you fucking kidding me? There was a No, you don't know either. Did you? You always know. What? What? Why over? Did you not know? Are you fucking? There was a flyover. You didn't know. No, he knows all. Yeah, there was a, there was a flyover, but that was like an experimental aircraft that I couldn't. What was the stealth that flew over the Rose Bowl? Right? It's called a B-2 bomber. Come on. It's okay to borrow. All right. Or it's maybe new. We call the stealth somewhat. Yeah. Like casuals would call it stealth bomber. People who don't respect the Rose Bowl. I respect stealth bombers and the Rose Bowl. I respect the Rose Bowl. Here's the problem with you turning it into this where you either love it unconditionally. I'll, I'll, I'll admit

to one thing. Uh, my feelings were hurt a little bit because I didn't usually I can pick up on your mocking tone. And when we were January 1st, we spent the whole day together and I did not pick up your on your mocking tone for about three hours and then when I did I was like god damn it he's been mocking me on you you live your entire life with me on a mocking I know but you then also I found out he bought me two gifts guess where the gifts are from PFT Spencer's the Rose Bowl he's buying me mocking gifts no No, he's mocking me with his brain. It was nailing you for three hours and he didn't realize it. Yeah. If I bought myself Rose Bowl gifts, that's mocking. He was mocking me. I know that he loves the Rose

Bowl. So I got him Rose Bowl. Honestly, if I were you, I would be fine with that arrangement. If somebody wanted to buy me a mocking gift that I actually enjoyed, I'd be like, okay, I don't know if I enjoy it anymore because every time I enjoy it, Brandon's laughing and he just picked you walk up there and you see a Wisconsin Bad, 1994 Rose Bowl champs and a picture of the Rose Bowl. You, you, you don't, I'm like, God damn it. He got me again. Yeah. Yeah. That's how our friendship works. That's a great friendship. So as an SEC fan, Brandon, how do you feel about the mighty shoulders of Texas carrying the mantle for the SEC? Still big 12. It's been a, uh, it's, it's, it is weird. It feels weird. It's been a bad

bowl season for SEC. It's been a bad season for the SEC. Would you like to apologize for the SEC? 100% no, because fuck the SEC. I am, I'm a fan of Mississippi State University. When Georgia loses, I think it's hilarious. When Alabama loses, I think it's fucking hilarious. So this myth that you guys think that we're all sitting in our trailer parks down South, just waiting for Alabama and Georgia to bail us out is wrong. Insane about trailer parks. It is wrong. I was going to say Super 8.

Yeah. Whatever. Wherever we're hanging out. Back of a pickup. Down south. The dog fighting ring. Wherever we're hanging out down south. The cousin fucking fast.

We're not just waiting. We would never talk football with the cousin fucking fast. We're never talking waiting for Alabama to bail us out. When they win, we're like, God damn, this is proof of how tough it is down here. When they lose, it's hilarious. I like that. But in a weird way, the SEC school, Texas,

going up against Ohio State, kind of built like an SEC team. Ohio State? Yeah, they've been the one team constantly. And Clemson touched it for a few years, that have been built like an elite SEC team. It's not built like an SEC team, it's built like an elite SEC team because there's teams built like you know Florida right now and Kentucky and A&M and then there's teams built like Alabama and Georgia over the last 15 years which is just take the five of the five stars and put them in every position and destroy everybody and Texas is like that Ohio State's like that. So if Ohio State

wins the national championship shouldn't we be saying that Georgia's built like an elite Big Ten team? I don't represent the Big Ten. I don't have a Big Ten accent. That's on you to start turning around the narrative. No, I actually find the whole thing funny and it's like the Big Ten cat thing that I do. Like I don't actually, I'm kind of with you. Like I'm not rooting for Ohio State to win. It helps you none as a Wisconsin fan.

No, I know. I'm not rooting for them. I will benefit if they win it all. I will benefit it by saying, wow, toughest conference, look at me. But I know that I'm not rooting for them. When you get to the end of the season and it's happened in the SEC a couple of times, it might happen in the Big Ten this year, and two SEC team play for a national title

and your team went nine and three in that conference, you're like, look at what we had to deal with that. I'm never winning anything ever again. Neither of you. It sucks. Speak for yourself, buddy. You're talking to a 2021 college World Series champion. OK, well, I've actually got a dynasty

going with women's hockey. Well, yeah, but you don't really. You never actually watched one of the games. I did. I watched the third period of one of the championship games. Yeah, but you can't name any players. Like, I can name all the Mississippi State baseball players. Chad, Austin, Cody. All right. Let's talk

about the games. Let's Thursday night. Sure. Penn State, Notre Dame, uh, slug path to get here. Penn State, nothing. Right. Haven't had to play a big game. Notre Dame acquitted themselves very nicely against, uh, Georgia. Marcus Freeman pants. Kirby smart. Absolutely. Pants. Pants them had him crying like a bitch. I loved it. And Georgia by the way is going to be back. Like I don't know. They're, they're going to be fine longterm. Oh, they've already gotten to the best wide receiver transfers in the country. They're fixing their problems now. And Kirby smart is one of those coaches that like kind of like Nick Saban when they lose it's actually bad for everyone else because they're just going to come back with more

vengeance. Well, I kind of say that about the entire sec. If everybody wants to shit on the sec right now, that's fine. If you want to do the collective conference thing, but embarrassing Alabama and embarrassing Georgia them going through that, it's just going to turn them into monsters. It's off season and it's going to be nasty. I think most of the shitting on the SEC is because the SEC so vehemently defended itself going into the playoff and also openly lobby. They've had a 20 year run

where they've just kicked the shit out. But everybody would lobby in that scenario. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't think Alabama deserved it or South Carolina or Ole Miss. That's where you hate South Carolina. All right. So this game. Yeah. You've actually predicted the playoffs perfectly. So far I have. Yeah. that's our college football expert folks Yeah, who do you have winning this game? And why I have Penn State winning this game because I think Penn State and her name are very very very similar I think Penn State's a little bit better version of the team. They're going to have a better quarterback great defense better quarterback Both elite running game both very very very physical Penn State just has one more.

Explosive playmaker than Notre Dame has. They have the incredible tight end Tyler Warren, and they have a quarterback who I think is not going to make the mistakes that the backup quarterback for Georgia made, uh, listen, Notre Dame, they're both built to win games the same way. Get a seven to 10 point lead, use their defense, ride it out, win the game. Right. And Notre Dame pulled that off to a T against Georgia. They had, Notre Dame had two plays. They had the sack fumble to get the ball at the nine yard line and then they had the kick return. That gave

them two touchdowns of separation and they never let Georgia breathe. They never let them get it. If those two plays don't happen, they had 250 yards of total offense or playing a more physical defense. And I don't think Aller is going to make the mistakes. The backup quarterback made. I just like Penn State as a little bit better version of what both teams are going for it does the Tyler Warren pieces is Good point because when you watch Notre Dame, yeah, like Jeremiah love is is electric. Riley Leonard can run very well He's a tough runner. It just doesn't feel like anyone's getting like crazy open No, whereas Tyler Warren is one of those guys where it's like you just throw it up to him and he'll get it. I think Notre Dame had 80 yards passing against uh against Arthur Faizon. Which is a great touchdown by Faizon. Which was

all fine you know that's what they needed to do to beat Georgia but I just don't know if that's gonna beat Penn State. Yeah. Yeah. I think Penn State's gonna get a couple touchdowns from the combination of Aller and Warren and I know that a lot of people it feels like more people believe Notre Dame is going to win than believe Penn State is going to win, but I think that's totally due to the path that Penn State had and the path that Notre Dame had. Do you think that Aller is, do you trust him? I think he is very good.

I've been on the Drew Aller train for two years to my detriment last year when they lost to Ohio State and Michigan, people were like, see, we told you he's terrible. That was a bad game. That was a bad game for him. It was a bad game, but it was also due to the two best defenses in the country. Well this year he doesn't turn the ball over. I think last year he might have had four interceptions, this year three. Something ridiculous.

I don't know if those are exact numbers. But he doesn't turn the ball over, doesn't make mistakes. If they had elite receivers this would be an elite offense. They don't have elite receivers so it's a really good offense. Did you plan on this when you're thinking about who's gonna win this game? It's the hundredth anniversary of the four horsemen. Mm-hmm canute Rockne I don't believe Rick Flair and aren't Anderson were together a hundred years ago. Yeah. Yeah, so that really Rick can do doesn't I am familiar with can it doesn't that feel like one for the Giffer right Giffer? Yeah Doesn't that feel like team of destiny vibes?

Well, do we know if there's any 100 year anniversaries for Penn State? I don't want to look in their past. Have we checked? Yeah, this is Catholics versus Catholics. Uh huh. Well, more Catholics versus convicts. Yeah. Both both of us Catholics versus Catholic convicts Catholic. Sure. Well, Catholic convicts versus Catholic convicts. Good point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Question about this game. Yeah. Big game James. Sure. Which I think we should start calling them big game James. Remember

when we called James shield big game James. Right. Like well like why it's just it just rhymes with those great James. Yeah. So big game James. Yeah. Are we worried at all about big game James not being big game James. I think about it. Is it fair to say he hasn't won a big game when he just won two playoff games. I understand those aren't big games. Right. Max said they weren't big isn't that rich. Okay. So is it could I argue that Georgia without it starting quarterback. No it's still Georgia. Okay. So big game. So we're really massaging the word big game to to fit our Right. It's a team that's like, you know, he's not greatly favored over. Yeah. And you know, it's a toss up game against a top five team. Penn state has not been able to overcome when Michigan was at the top of the sport the last

three years. I couldn't overcome them. And when Ohio States, they have no Ohio State once. Can I ask you this? Yeah. Over the last four years, what's Notre Dame's record against those two teams? What would it be? Cause it'd be the exact same as Penn State. Fair point. And, and, but that's also a little Brian Kelly in there and Freeman, who I think again, he pants Kirby smart. He looked great. Yep. This is, this is the guy that lost Northern Illinois this year. This guy who has lost tough team, one of the best mountain west team. This is a guy who's, who's lost some games he shouldn't lose. But suddenly because he beats Georgia, all the questioning is still on, on James Franklin. I don't, I don't think it's called narratives. I don't

think this is all about the coaches here. I think this is, uh, this is one team has a better quarterback than the other. That's what I think. I agree. I agree with you. If you, if you extrapolate, if you go out the whole playoff, it's four coaches, somebody's breaking through for the first time. Ryan Day gets rid of his problems. James Franklin gets rid of his problems. Marcus Freeman ascends to the top of the sport for the first time and Sarkeesian battles through everything he had to battle through. So

fascinating coach narrative. I agree. It is so so with Marcus Freeman, the pants and really occurred on that that fourth down. Yeah, the fake. The fake go. Did you know that they that Georgia had a giant banner on the sidelines? It said DJO Like you remember that DJO that was like on the bottom of screen the entire game because it's boom right there on the sidelines I stand for don't jump off side that makes sense. That's what the banner meant Yeah, and then they jumped off sides Well, they also have posted speed limits in Athens, Georgia, and they don't really

pay attention to those either. So they also should probably had a banner saying don't get in the way of refs. Don't get in the way of refs. Yeah. Don't drink and drive. But I think that having the don't jump off sides better makes you more likely if that's the one thing that you're emphasizing in your head, the last words like don't hit the ball in the water, Hank. Yeah. If the last word you read going onto the field is offsides, it in your mind to jump off your DNA. Yeah. All right, so officially Penn State. I like Penn State Would you be willing to put your I agree? expert on the line I have already earned that reputation via winning this battle this year

So I don't know that I have to put it back on the line Do you need a banner to hang behind you because I don't think you won the big game boomer banner. Big game boomer hasn't put one out yet. OK. So you haven't won it right. I haven't won it but I haven't lost it either. OK. We went through all of 20 24 without without a new banner. True. I'm with you. I think I'm going to bet Penn State. Yeah. What's the current line in traffic two and a half I think or maybe two. I think it'll be a pick them by game time. I feel like the late money's coming in on pens. I also hate to do it, but it, I don't know under it's low 44 and a half. You can't have a kick return or college football play something stupid happen, but these teams both want to play.

Both those things happened in the last game and the way the total ended up at 33. I know. So the one thing that's been jumping out to me about Notre Dame is their secondary. Yeah, very good. So good. Yeah. Xavier Watts is one of the best players in the country. So I feel like, yeah, as much as I'm good at every level of their defense, as much as you want to, you want to trust Penn State and you want to trust true our, that is going to be a tough battle for it's going to be very tough, especially because his receivers don't really get much separation. Uh, but it so much just trusting Drew Allers trusting drew out or more than you're trusting Riley Leonard throw the ball down the field and play. So I think I don't think Penn State is going to go

out there and throw for 350 yards and four touchdowns. But if you had to tell me you know, that one team is going to win by throwing for 215 yards and two touchdowns, I would say that's Penn State. Yeah. Okay. Max max you have any Penn State questions for Brandon? No, I had no notes. I think it's great job. It's gonna be a great stream of we'll have max there We'll have chief there no representing Notre Dame I think Frank's gonna be here to represent your Notre Dame Connor Griffin Penn State Jeff D Low Penn State McKinsey Notre Dame. Yep, so I'll be great be packed house house. Okay, second game. Texas, Ohio State.

Now, the knee jerk is Ohio State looks unbeatable. And Texas has not looked incredible. I mean, they kind of played a little around with Clemson. I know that was never really in doubt. And then Arizona State probably should have won that game. They got right to the edge of losing. That targeting call, that changes everything. And a fourth and 13 if he throws it by zero blitz. I know. So is this going to be Ohio State kicking their ass. So if I went

by what the two teams have done to play off it has to be that right. It has to be because Ohio State got the embarrassment against Michigan. Three weeks they heard how terrible they are, how big of a train wreck they are. And they came out and their play calling was different, their attitude was different, everything was better, they had fixed it. However, I wonder about this. Ohio State now, by virtue of their two performances they put on, does the pressure now circle back around to get on their shoulders again? Because they had that pressure going into Michigan the last couple years they've had that pressure and Ryan Day traditionally doesn't do that great with pressure now that they have shown they are unequivocally the most talented and the

best team in this playoff does the pressure come back and then do they go into that shell again where their play calling isn't as aggressive where the play calling isn't as down the field I wonder about that otherwise if Ryan Day and Chip Kelly don't hold this team back, if they call plays the same way they've been calling plays, I think they win by two touchdowns. Breaking Moose. Breaking Cow. You got a cow. You got a cow. Like that. Breaking Moose. Another one? Yeah. That's good. That's good cow. Because we don't want to have to retake it Raiders fire Antonio Pierce. Oh they do. Oh, yes

Interesting. So Raiders fire Antonio Pierce. That is Another variable opening it is possibly variable bring Josh McDaniels back. Yeah So do we have any thoughts on that? Well before we get back to college football? You're not you've watched one NFL game in your life. I've watched a bunch of NFL games. Okay, but they play every Sunday still Yeah, right. Oh, here on Sunday, right? No, no, absolutely not. Okay. How many Vrabel, I know how many openings there are,

how many Vrabel openings are there? Five. So are all the openings Vrabel openings? Yes. Whatever opening he wants, he takes. Okay. Jacksonville's not a Vrabel opening, right? They're not hiring Vrabel.

They might. They probably want to. Yeah, everyone wants to. Right, but you can't be a Vrabel opening, a Vrab think they probably want to. Yeah. Everyone wants to. Right, but you can't be a Vrabel opening if Vrabel would never get to you. He would pick another job before you pick that one, right? Maybe Ohio State. You guys got to be honest about your Vrabel opening.

This immediate reaction is bad for the Bears because... That's your immediate reaction to everything. I agree, but I do think there's a chance that Ben Johnson goes to the Patriots and Vrabel goes to the Raiders and then Why would he choose the Raiders over the Bears Tom Brady? No variable. Yeah, well, I'm very well Tom Brady Tom Brady is a part owner of those great. You probably didn't know that No, I knew that like I needed variable to go to the Patriots So Ben Johnson come to the Bears now, it's it's back to there's multiple seats open for

Those two I understand they were long time teammates, but is there any, any personal evidence that says he's going to tie his future career into whatever Tom Brady wants him to do? I think Mike variables are pretty good coach. And I think he, yeah, I, I don't have a quarterback though. Actually Raiders has not been Johnson. So that Raiders could be, why wouldn't Raiders is not Ben Johnson. So that Raiders could be Why wouldn't Raiders be on Sanders? Rable well, I want to very well be a tree. I think he's not he's not a good enough coach for I think he will be Patriots, I don't know where I don't think Ben Johnson be Raiders because they don't have a quarterback. Okay But I need variable to go to the Patriots so the Ben Johnson go to the Bears fair All right

So that's where I'm nervous because if variable goes to Raiders and Ben Johnson go to the Patriots and the Ben Johnsons go to the Bears. Fair. All right. So that's where I'm nervous because if Raible goes to the Raiders and Ben Johnson go to the Patriots. And you believe in a year of our Lord 2025 the Patriots are a more appealing destination for Ben Johnson than the Bears would be? I'm quarterback maybe. Big connections guy. I feel like both quarterbacks. No they're both good. What I'm saying is like it's not so the quarterback obviously is why somebody would be interested in New England. Yeah. Second is Robert Kraft feels like he would typically be a good owner to work. But I bet for a coach, an offensive minded

coach, I know I whatever he put on the field this year, I bet Caleb Williams is really fucking enticing. Yeah, but you think you can unlock the best. Here's the I do all my coach hirings and firings on connections. That's why Mike variable to the Raiders Tom Brady. Sure. Ben Johnson played quarterback at UNC. But Drake may also did. It's as simple as that. Right? That's what makes me nervous. I also think that the the guy who is the longtime offensive coordinator of a team that he's

been very committed to the Lions. He stayed out of the coaching search last year. He took himself out because he wanted to return to the Lions. Yeah, super close. I think it'd be it's not impossible for him to do it close. I think it'd be it's not impossible for him to do it. But I think it's it adds another reason why he maybe wouldn't want to go to the Bears. But guys, we can talk about the NFL when the season starts again next year. Seasons over. Yeah, no, I know. We just we're going to have to include this in the podcast anyway. So why not just do it? Are they doing? They're not. Are they doing a playoff this year for the NFL? We actually do our transfer after the season's

over. I know that sounds weird. That is weird. Yeah. And the playoffs actually it's not based on just a bunch of old dudes sitting in a room. Why not? Yeah, it's weird. All right. So Texas. So you think the pressure on Ohio state, I think surface, I think it could resurface and we've seen Ryan day not be able to deal with that before, right? Yeah. If all of a sudden he's the heavy favorite again and, and you have no excuse not to, not to win. I feel like that could creep back on him. Him and Chip Kelly. Who, how does Texas win this game? I'm personally, I'm kind of done with Quinn yours. So Texas is the, is probably the most interesting team. I believe they have Ohio state ceiling in there somewhere every now and then for like two drives, maybe a quarter that Texas offense looks like, Oh my God,

circle, getting his bag of Mr. Actually this bag, Quinn will be throwing darts because every now and then Quinn, you was just throw his fucking darts and then he'll throw a floater into triple coverage. You're like, what, where did this guy come from? If they could for four quarters tap into their actual true potential, which is going to be tough against Ohio state, which I think is the best defense in the country. Uh, it's going to be tough against Ohio State, which I think is the best defense in the country It's gonna be tough against them. But if they could they're as talented as Ohio State Yeah, or there you know what? They're not as talented Nobody is but they're as talented as anybody not named Ohio State and that would give them a punchers chance

Yeah, so do you think that the formula is gonna be run the ball get physical for Texas have a very good offensive line No, I think it I I don't I don't think so that defensive line is really really good I think it has to be making plays 25 yards down the field. I think it has to be Marcus Golden. I think it has to be even maybe get Isaiah Bond involved. It has to be Quinn Ewers hitting at least three or four game breaking passes or put on Michigan uniforms or put on Michigan uniforms and that causes Chip Kelly and Ryan Day to freaking freak out and want to win the game a certain way that they shouldn't be wanting to win the game like that.

They do have a golden and a blue. Yes. I know it's not Mays and blue, but it's close. Well, golden and blue would be Notre Dame, wouldn't it? No but... Blue and gold would be Notre Dame. They got two players. Golden.

Blue. And blue. Yeah. But that's not Michigan. His name isn't Mays. That's true. That's what I said. Which is Mexican. I Yeah. But that's not Michigan. His name isn't Mays. That's true. That's what I said.

Which is Mexican. I said I know it's not Mays, but it's close. Mays is Mexican corn, right? It is corn. Or Native American corn. Native American corn. Oh, it's the Indians call it Mays. Yeah.

So your official pick is Ohio State. I kind of want to take the over in this game. Texas defense is good though, too. It is very good. It also gave up 510 yards and 31 points to Arizona State. That wasn't a fluke. Arizona State didn't fluke that game. They just bullied him in the second half.

I mean, Arizona State had the ball in the red zone in the first half four times, didn't score any points. Like they moved the ball all day. Finally, Scadaboo and Levitt got it going, but they scored 31 points, that's overtime, so they scored 24 in regulation. But they had 510 yards. That's a lot of yards. How do you shut down Jeremiah Smith? You don't not possible. You don't.

You just you either you either just hope you shut down everybody else or you hope Chip Kelly and Ryan Day don't force feed him like they've been force feeding him. You hope that they probably should. Yeah, they didn't force feed him against Michigan like they didn't force feed him against Penn State the first time. Yeah, and and they they kind of they kind of pussy footed around it They came out in the playoff and realized hey We have the best receiver room in the country because it's not just jeremiah smith He's the one getting the headlines, but puka's been great like carnell tates been pretty good too like they have their third best receiver would be the best receiver on any other team and

You just hope they go away from that. Yeah, you got to get inside their brain some against Penn State and against Michigan, Ohio State ran the ball on first down ran the ball on second down and tried to be tougher upfront tried to be out and out physical teams, and they couldn't do it. As long as they don't try to do that again. I don't know how you stop. So the thing that concerns me is and I agree with you, I was planning on betting on Ohio State, I feel like they they're not going to make the same mistakes that they made against Michigan.

They just can't. That was like shock therapy where they woke up. Okay, we can't do that again. But it also seems like everybody else in America is saying Ohio State by two touchdowns. Well, Texas is a hell of a lot better than Michigan too, right? Yeah, they beat the fuck out of it. Yeah. So Texas, I don't want them to get disrespected here. I just don't think they have the high end. They don't have the high end potential of Ohio State because Quinn yours can never be that guy for a full game. They have not played a full game. Yeah, they've consistently they played, you know, that SCC championship game. They played Georgia very tough. Yeah.

They got killed by Georgia when they, when they played at home in Austin and then all the rest of their resumes, you know, not much, even like I said, even the Clemson game, I mean they were killing Clemson Clemson again. It was never a 14 points, right? But it was, it was also like, wait, whoa, do we have to look at this game again? Yeah. And I can imagine like a NFL scout as they get ready for the draft. And I think he's going to go back to college and transfer somewhere else. But like looking at Quinn, yours has to be one of the most frustrating things you can look at because you will see three throws You're like this guy is a top five pick I can't we got to trade up and get this guy and then the next three throws nobody get near this guy

Undrafted free agent. Yeah, the game-winning throw against Arizona State was incredible. That's a great play by him Yeah, like standing in the face of pressure for that one 13. Yeah, that was a great I don't credit for he's capable of doing but the interception he threw with six minutes left when they're nursing an eight-point lead Was among the worst throws you've ever seen. He throws in a double coverage and he floats it. It's just basically an arm punt. I would trust him more if he brought the mullet back. I'd agree.

I kind of would agree with that too. It at least indicates some swagger to him that he really doesn't have. Right. It would actually transform this entire discussion from like, oh, he really frustrates me with the interceptions to that's Quinn, he's a gunslinger. Yeah. He's going to take his chances. What? Uh, so Ohio state beats Penn state in the national championship. I think Ohio state beats man. That would be such a match. James Franklin wins the national championship over Ohio state. It would basically solve every one of his life's problem. Who's that a bigger kick in the Dick for? Is it

a bigger kick of James Franklin finally breaks through, gets to the national title game and he has to play Ohio State a team that he just can't beat? Or Ryan Day fights or everything, gets to a national title game and then loses to Penn State who he's never lost to? Oh, you know what it'd be. Ohio State fights through, gets to the national championship, loses to Notre Dame. Lou Holtz laughs in his face. Oh, I didn't even think of that. Well, when he wakes up the next day. Right. Yeah, they should actually do, you know how ESPN always does like the seven different simulcasts sure. A loop holds. One should be like the Lou Holtz cast and it's just him asleep on his chair. But to answer your question, I think it would probably be a bigger kick

in the Dick to Ryan day only because James Franklin is kind of used to it. Yeah. Like he's, he's been there, done that losing to Ohio state. No one would be like, Oh man, James Franklin lost to Ohio state. If Ryan day loses to Penn state and the national championship game after losing to Michigan at the end of the season. Sure. And you're already in your January 20th. You can't fire him. Right. That would be very unsettling for Ohio state. Whereas Penn state would be like, listen, we just got to the national title. We got to stay the course. Yeah, you know keep taking shots James Franklin Yeah, I can't beat Ohio State But maybe someday we'll get there and as as much as I I like Penn State and think they're a very good team

They're the rosters not as good as Ohio State's like right them losing to Ohio State. We don't have a Jeremiah Smith Nobody does right but they never like it feels like they're always missing that one guy on the outside That can be just everything. Yeah. They are. Any home field advantage at all for Texas? I don't think so. I think Ohio State travels well enough and it'll be 50-50. At worst, what, it'll be 60-40, something like that.

I don't think there'll be a home field advantage. Ohio State's very concerned about the temperature at game time. We saw that with Tennessee too. I think it's going to be very cold actually in Dallas. Is it? It's indoors. It's indoors. But it's going to be cold outside.

They light-bumped the AC. like they're having some what if someone leaves the door? They're expecting some snow. Yeah. Yeah. What if someone leaves the door open? What's the the the big door? Yeah, there's a giant window with the sun. But you don't respect. Wouldn't Ohio State want to leave the door open so it could be? Yeah, I think so. It's actually my favorite sunset in sports is that like 15 minute window and it's at Jerry World and it blinds all the receivers. Yeah. Remember? Yeah, I guess they still have that. I guess I remember Texas

Stadium when I was a kid too. They had the hole directly in the roof and it was just oh, it's the dumbest thing ever. It was the Leon let one of the Leon let games where the fumble against the Dolphins. Yeah, so that God could watch the Cowboys. That's what they said. Yeah, it was snowing, snowing in the indoor stuff. Right. Crazy. Okay. I got a row back question. R H O B A C CK calm promo code take 20% off first purchase Q zips pull those hoodies joggers shorts row back calm promo code take who's gonna win the 2026 national title It's a great question. Thank you. Great question. Thank you

So Jeremiah Smith will be back Maybe he transfers to To where? Wisconsin? Whoever wants to pay him $10 million. He should just do it. Yeah. See if... He could probably make more money in college football in the next two years. You think Portnoy would try to get his rich uncle to buy him too? I don't know if he's related to Larry Ellison.

He's probably going to call him that soon. How big of a Michigan fan is Larry Ellison's girlfriend gotta be the biggest in the world 12 million who's so when the Texas with Arch Manning, how about Texas? Oh, okay. I think they're still gonna be real damn is Kailin to Borg gonna be okay. No. Oh, he will be a to and out guy. Whoa, he will be a Who's a quarterback next year? It is very funny that Alabama like They're kind of not screwed in NIL, but they are not the same as Ohio State or Michigan or Texas. Like they don't have the same boosters.

Yeah. Listen, Alabama, not to brag, but me and Fornelli didn't sit on the scouts before the year and said Alabama is not going to be competing for national. Millrow is not good enough. I also said Travis Hunter would win the Heisman. You did. But Millrow was still the best they had. Like what's coming down the pipe in Alabama? And running back they've been normal forever. Receiver they're normal. Well Ryan Williams. They're just what Ryan Williams.

Yeah that's a good point Big Cat. Not normal whatsoever. They are way closer to a normal SEC team than they've ever been and nothing is happening to make me think that's gonna change. So Nick Saban is gonna have to come back and save him? I don't know. I guarantee you if they go nine and three again or nine and four with the bull up, he's out. I got two words for you. They will not let that happen to you. What's coming down the pipeline at quarterback? Jaden Rashada. Jaden Rashada. Do you want in on him? I'd no. No. He doesn't want in on him. He won't stay anywhere long enough to be in on something. He does have a pretty crazy resume. He's been to one, one year in school. He's

been to three schools. Yeah. And then I think in high school, he went to the two or three different high schools. Yeah. I just, he's a friendly guy and Oregon has a guy who signed in December and already transferred. Like these guys don't understand. Just go somewhere and plant yourself for a year or two and see just just see what happens and see how it unfolds don't just live immediately my big fix for the transfer portal is because now schools coming up schools are gonna be able to pay directly yeah to the players what you should do is freshmen should get whatever let's just say round numbers 50k yeah sophomores get a hundred K juniors get 150 whatever it is if you transfer you go back to freshman

That's not a terrible idea. I thought of maybe maybe if you sign out of high school you have to stay somewhere two years now That's not very American. It's not very free, but I think it's better for the players Like I do soon you transfer if you transfer immediately you're never going to cuz it's gonna make it It's like a concussion, right? And once you get one, it's easier to do it again. Is that true? Like Jalen Hurts having two this year? Did he have two?

He might have had one in the first commander's game. We have so many of these transfer zombies that are now at four and five and six and seven schools. Did you see his post-game interview in that game? It's ridiculous. He was wearing glasses. Yeah, it's uh. We're doing Jalen Hurts now?

No, he's just in the concussion program. We're worried about him. I don't know what it's gonna look like when the schools start paying directly, but you are gonna be able to, you can have contracts. I don't know. He's just in the concussion program. We're worried about him. I don't know what it's going to look like when the schools start paying directly, but you are going to be able to... You can have contracts. I don't think that's un-American. If you sign up for a contract and you probably have some sort of collective bargaining with the players.

Well, what people don't realize is this is college football. It's great that the schools are going to be paying them and everything, but the behind-the-scenes and the under-the-table money is still going to be flowing bigger than ever. Of course. So all these freshmen that, oh, he's only getting 50K. Yeah, he's not getting 50 K. He's getting 500 K somewhere else. So it's all it's all going to be nasty. I've my take on the whole transfer portal and NIL stuff is the pendulum has swung as we for the longest time guys couldn't make it couldn't even fucking get a job. Yeah. Now we've swung all the way the other way

and we're going to find somewhere in the middle. I just feel like some players, you know, I like player freedom. I like guys going to find an opportunity and some of these schools lie to players, but sometimes when you go to a place and you leave immediately, you never give yourself a chance to grow into anything. Correct. And if you're always looking for the quick fix, the school is too, and you're never going to find anything, right? And you're just going to be that guy for the entire five years you're in college and it's never going to work out. And if you don't have an NFL career, having a college career at one school that means

something is very valuable. Yeah. You look at a guy like Jalen Hurts, he's stuck around, right? Yeah. He's stuck through it, showed that he's a good teammate. Then he got out of there. And then he got concussed toys. Yeah.

Packardan. He went to the school that valued loyalty the most. He's probably a great backup quarterback. That's what you can say about that man. So you guys have just transitioned fully into messing with Max right now? Yeah. Well, would you say it's, if your quarterback's concussion protocol the week of a playoff game.

That's not great. Big Cat's trying to play this game that he's huge. I just won Max. I am. I need the Eagles I need him out of concussion protocol beat the Packers I need him out of protocol me about Jalen hurts Packard and You would admit max the Monday of a playoff game here in the work concussion protocol is troubling. Thank you. It is

Trouble technicality. It's a bad technicality. It was To get out of concussion protocol yesterday But is that not a troubling technicality? No He would have had to have gotten out of concussion protocol Last week if he was gonna because he wasn't out of concussion protocol last week. He had to still be in concussion protocol Monday I think let me just say this I think the fact that max is talking so much about the concussion I'm not I'm not sure what you're trying to do. I'm not good and when Barstool big pack was right there. Yeah Because Yankee Dan let's get him out of concussion protocol

And he did have that is a second if you look at the video after the Washington game the first one Sorry, I'm gonna concuss. I was just here was just here oh yeah so PFT just is a constant state of concussion no we did we just hit guys hard we played you said that yeah because you were still wearing sunglasses in the concussion well yeah yeah wear sunglasses inside actually be fucked up with your brain did have a concussion the salt shed I've yeah I had multiple concussions also may have gotten bit by a rabid bat so came out out, did the show the next day. So, bang. Brandon, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. College football expert. Do you have any questions for us?

No, no. As my first official appearance as the official college football expert on this show officially, I had a good time officially. Okay. Officially, good job. We never did actually say, but the contest that that I won I had three schools left in the Cosmopolitan playoff for Nelly has won his wood state. Okay, if Penn State wins at all I think for Nelly should probably that's what I said. No, he even if they win at all He is still short of my point total because I've been so dominant so far champion. It's kind of on that's not what we said We'll have to review the tape you you can really to buy schools that's him that's him

but yeah you listen you USA rugby does the same thing you finish in second place long enough you get a first place mm-hmm it's like Kobe Bryant's career it's like he was never the best player ever in the NBA sure he was always like number two three guys I have already made an appearance as the as the expert I don't know what we can we can't undo it now. We're gonna bleep that out. Let's clip what out. We're gonna bleep out me saying expert at any time.

We can bleep out the Kobe stuff too. I don't have time for the Kobe stans. We bleep out concussion as well and then the whole entire podcast will just be a bleep. All right, thanks, Brandon. Yep, you fat bleep. Yeah. Brandon Walker was brought to you by Netflix and their gripping new limited series coming

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I was greatly disappointed to hear that max would not attend my bachelorette party a lot and that's sad I Didn't I I was just abiding by the rules. I was a blodging to the blodging Did anyone tell you that you were saying that word incorrectly? Oh, yeah, yeah Is that disgusting Hank that we have a producer that can't pronounce words? Yeah, it's sickening Did you guys hear the other day? I would if I lost that bet I would be at so many bachelorette parties That's the thing. Yeah, you were that's the bad thing about me. Yeah loves women. Did you guys hate respect them? Yeah, I'm like Max this I have a girlfriend

Yeah, so you can't respect some women if you could go to if you're in a relationship you can't respect women What are you Mike Pence can't be in the same room with those respected women are your girlfriend Max is afraid to get in a Room with some of that peanut butter skin You just know what you do so you got to stay away from it God Those cannons know what you're capable of max Did I meant to bring this up? I was like maybe I think it was over Christmas, maybe Charlie do you Charles? I think was Charles Davis. We had a because I was talking about a blage and how you said that wrong He said it was a Niklaus situation. He said Knute Rockne

Oh, yeah, it was like that's actually if you if you look it up, that's actually how it was pronounced. That's how you would have read the word. Yeah. So a new rock me. Am I am I wrong? But is this the 100 year anniversary of the Knute Rockne? I don't know is it was the four horsemen of Notre Dame? Yeah, I'm what are you guys talking about? What is sure that was new rock me is a famous football player. I'm pretty sure that was... Knute Rockne is a famous football player. I'm pretty sure that was 1925. Way back when. If so...

Or coach, sorry. If so, that would be like, I mean, Team of Destiny Notre Dame, right? Yeah. The Echo is literally getting woken up. He coached from 1918 to 1930. So Knute Rockne, shout out the legend. Yeah, the Four Horsemen, 1924, included the four horsemen, backfield,

the Harry Stoldrere, Don Miller, Jim Crowley, and Elmer Layden. Don't see a lot of Elmers in the backfield anymore. Elmer Layden was a problem. Elmer Layden. All right, hey, guys and chicks. Speaking of pronunciation, this actually kind of plays into it.

We also got a note about this K E T O Keto Keto Keto Keto Yeah, that correct pronunciation. Okay fact. Okay, my boyfriend decided he was going on a keto diet to start the new year I thought I always thought it was Keto to ketosis. Yeah, yeah, is it ketosis? I guess, I don't know. Keto. Keto-Kalen? My boyfriend decided he was going on a keto diet to start the new year.

I thought he was kidding, but when I came home from work the other day, he filled almost the entire fridge and freezer with meat. Like a fridge almost entirely of fish, beef, and chicken. He's not crazy chunky, and I never said he had to lose weight. I actually liked the little plump. I actually liked the little plump.

Oh, that's mean But he's fully doing this and it's kind of annoying Probably smells piss smells bad too right and my bad girlfriend if I tell him to stop because I don't want our entire fridge And freezer filled with meat do I let him go for this? I'm thinking this resolution will end soon anyways That's that's the answer you gotta just ride it out. He's gonna. He's gonna want carbs by Friday Yeah, the the every diet goes the same way. Especially the January 1st one. Yeah, in the keto you're like, damn this is awesome.

I can eat steak, I can eat bacon, all I have to do is eat meat. And then you do it for like two weeks and you say, shit, you know what I would like die for right now is a piece of pizza. Yeah, guys see like an influencer who's in tremendous shape. He's like, all I have to do is eat as much meat as I want all the time. And it's very easy for guys to say, yeah, that sounds like the easiest diet ever. But at the end of the day, he's going to want a bag of chips. I went through this with the dunk when I was like looking up

the easiest and or not the fastest ways to lose weight without you know, losing like muscle or strength and it's keto but it's then I looked into actually how you do it and I was like, I'm not that's not possible. Yeah, no, it's it's it's kind of one of those trick diets where if you say, like, how then I looked into actually how you do it and I was like I'm not that's not possible Yeah, no, it's it's it's kind of one of those trick diets where if you say like, how do I do this? Yeah, and you say hey, do you like steak? Yes. Oh, do you like chicken? Yes. Well, I have a diet for you But then you eat it and you're just like this sucks. Yeah. Also, you know what else I really like is all the sides that come with Steak. Yeah. Yeah, give me the game. Give me the cream of corn

Give me the twice baked potato. Yeah, give me the mashed give me the sweet potato fries mm-hmm Give me all that shit. Give me the lobster mac. It turns out that everything has carbs in it mm-hmm And sugar and sugar which is the car, but I'm not eating candy, but you're right grapes When I found out grapes were carbs blew my mind Yeah The car but I'm not eating candy, but you're right grapes when I found out grapes were carbs blew my mind Yeah Hey guys, my husband is a huge Baltimore sports fan. We are expecting our first child and he is adamant on naming the boy Jackson Well, I do love the name Jackson. He wants to name the middle. He wants to name the middle name either Lamar or holiday is Enough enough or do I bend the knee has his sports fandom gone too

far to run for the hills. You got to go holiday. I mean that's because you cover both or does that then take away the Lamar. What. What's the question. I don't think it covers. I think it's just Jackson. Yeah. He's just naming him his name. I think and Jackson holiday is also he's a great prospect, but yeah, you might want to be Lamar Jackson would be a safer bet What if Jackson like it happens a lot that good prospects? Yeah, what about Jackson Gunner? That would be good. Mm-hmm. I like Gunnar. I think Gunnar Jackson flows Gunnar Jackson is great All right. Yeah, Gunnar Jackson school if you want to go with like a tried-and-true Baltimore guy, you could go Calvin Jackson. Mm-hmm Then he sounds like a tried and true Baltimore guy, you could go Calvin Jackson.

Then he sounds like a future president. That's true. Uh, Jackson's actually not a bad first name because you can, you can do things with it. Like you give them chances. If you, if you're, if you're naming your son something after a sports player or something weird, give them a chance, give them a chance to change it if they want. So if they become Jack, That's not a weird thing Yeah, I've also don't do the X. I don't think he would but the J A X O N is crazy

Also Jackson to me sounds like more of a southern name, doesn't it? Yeah, like if you're from Georgia your name Jackson That's different from if you're from a Nashville suburb. Yeah, how about this? How about? Jackson Stavros. Mmm. That's good Jackson Stavros. Mmm, that's good. Jackson Stavros the wire. Yeah. Okay, yeah, I think Jackson, that was a good name. Maybe don't do Jackson Holliday because then that's just, then you're naming after Jackson Holliday, not Lamar Jackson, and also like Mac said, prospects don't always pan out.

Also the one Jackson that we know sucks. What's the Jackson? McCarthy. Oh, he's Jackson? I should know that because I'm his dad. Also, there's something weird about naming your son after like a 21-year-old that's not related to you, right? With Lamar, at least he's got some age and he's become a part of Baltimore. At this point, it's like you're naming your son after a 21-year-old who's good at sports.

Yeah, I think you were right with the cow thing. Like you want to name after a guy whose career is over because you can't change it. Now you could change it in like, I don't know, hypothetically like a double murder kind of situation. So maybe don't name it name Mojay, but you can't, you can't change what they did, what they did after they retired. So maybe go Cal or Lamar Jackson safe just because at bare minimum, he's got two MVPs. Yeah. And he was electric. Like if he never wins a Superbowl, you still would be like, he had an insane career. But would that like, if you were from Miami, you named your kid Marino. Hmm. Yeah. Maybe go

Joe Flacco. Yeah. Flacco Jackson, the wire Flacco Jackson Gunner Flacco Jackson the wire Gunner last name. All right. Well end with a pardon your take. Hey boys, new take. Why hasn't anyone tried to block a field goal at the crossbar? Obviously would never have to be obviously would have to be a long field goal. So the kick has a chance of of landing short but I feel like there's enough there to at least give it a try the Lions could have tried against the Ravens back when Tucker kicked a 66 yarder the crossbar is 10 feet above the ground and anyone who can dunk could give it a shot what would you guys think much love go hot I agree with

this I don't know if it's legal can you I'm looking you up go tend field goal rules right now okay I'm not sure. But we're gonna find out what would make it illegal. What I don't know if there's gold tending. What's the difference between five inches? I agree and 50 yards. Why not use you sign Wimby for a playoff contract and just put them back down on field. I'm guessing you can't put your hand on the crossbar. But if you're just straight up jumping up.

All right, so here we go. The entire ball must pass through the vertical plane of the goal, which is the area above the crossbar. If the ball passes through the goal and returns through the goal without striking the ground or some object or person beyond the goal, the attempt is unsuccessful. It's, so I'm reading right here

that Morris Stroud, the chiefs, used to do that, and then they changed the rule rule 12 section 3 Article 1 is Formally known as the Stroud rule Goaltending by any player leaping up to deflect a kick as it passes above the crossbar of a goalpost is prohibited the referee could award three points for a palpably unfair act Huh bullshit that is bullshit. I think you should get what would be interesting is if they change the rule Where you can go tend you have to catch it though

Or it's a live ball that'd be hard I know but it would be you know at the end of a game like hey We got a this guy's got it cuz then how electric would be if the guy tipped it to himself and dropped it electric would be if the guy tipped it to himself and dropped it and then it became goaltending and if you if you reject it above the crossbar and catch it and return it for a touchdown that's worth 10 points I like that that's automatic Super Bowl yeah I like that a lot this is a weird penalty for them to implement because the the chance that is happening got to be very very rare right yeah I'd agree it doesn't I mean I guess someone was doing it but uh yeah yeah so it sounds like they made it illegal that sucks that'd

be fun I also wish that the Arizona State field goal counted people were trying to say that it did. The one that bounced in? Yeah yeah that'd be cool as well okay numbers what were like a week into 2025 and Memes still has never gotten it. I'm gonna go with five. Eleven. Three. Do you want three? No, I'm thinking.

Thirty-three. Let me find that number in here. Memes, what are you most worried about? PFT getting it for a second time or Jack getting it and then you being literally the only one to never Pft he's never gotten by himself. Oh, that's actually not true. Yeah, he actually has got I got by himself on this machine I've gotten it on the old machine. I get it several times. You've never gotten on any machine ever That's crazy. I also think memes like something don't under us like people underestimate the fact that you never got it in the old office either Yeah, they never got it. I also think something's up with memes

I think you like got a concussed over the break or something cuz he seems like a little bit happier I don't know what it is. It's the jumpsuit. Oh Really? Okay. He's really excited about the jumpsuit like he was smiling to me today I was like this is weird memes get hacked. He's never done this before yeah, and the jet season is over Yeah, and we're winning the Super Bowl this year nice Okay, three Eight 21

99 Pug 4848 Jack what was yours 55? Max what was yours 11 was yours Hank 33 57 57 love you guys. So So So So So Thanks for watching!