Pardon My Take - Dickie V Talking Final 4, WWE Champ Cody Rhodes, Fyre Fest And We Put The Pieces Back Together After April Fools

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

Final four is here and we talk games and picks (00:00:00-00:07:14). March NBA, does it mean anything? Where is Aaron Rodgers going to play next year (00:07:14-00:23:10)? Does Shohei have maximum aura ...(00:23:10-00:40:12)? Dickie V joins the show to talk Final Four, how he’s doing health wise, his love for people and more (00:40:12-00:57:13). WWE Champion Cody Rhodes joins us in studio to talk about Wrestlemania, his incredible backstory in wrestling, his legendary Dad, John Cena, cheat meals and more (00:57:13-01:41:34). We finish with Fyre Fest and putting back the pieces after Wednesday’s April Fools (01:41:34-02:05:54).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners. You can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have Dickie V on the show talking Final Four. We only had him for about 15 minutes because his voice, he's still working it back, but it was have to have Dickie V on when offered and then we have WWE champion Cody Rhodes in studio really awesome interview he's great cool guy so we had a lot of fun talking to him we're talk some final four where the hell is Aaron Rodgers gonna play football next year we also had some NBA stuff go down. And it's all brought to you by our friends at DraftKings. The finals for March Mania are here and the only thing for sure is
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Starting point is 00:02:46 Madness comes down to San Antonio do you say San Antonio or San Antonio? You can say San Antonio if you want to sound like you're selling salsa. San Antonio. I realized too Charles Barkley having to do live shows in San Antonio is great. Listen Charles Barkley when he's talking about the big old women don't act like Charles doesn't sneak a peek. Yeah San Antonio amongst us doesn't so we have it. We're ready Duke Houston Auburn Florida this will be I it is the best Final Four I think ever just if you're looking at statistics, I have to tell myself that yeah I have to tell myself that this weekend is gonna be the best weekend of college basketball of my life. Every single team in this final four, any other year, is probably a champion.
Starting point is 00:03:29 You know what I mean? Without this type of competition. That's how good they all are. And I have been saying for a month and a half now that it is Duke's year, and I do fully think that. They feel like even though it's a loaded final four, they feel a little step ahead. But I'm excited to watch the games. I will not be rooting for Duke,
Starting point is 00:03:46 but I am also resigned to the fact they will probably win. If Duke doesn't lose, you talk about an all time wasted meme from the White Lotus, right? I know. Like it feels like that has to be used at some point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:59 It would be a real shame if it wasn't. I do find myself also rooting for Duke because they're fun to root for. Oh, I'm not rooting for them. But then, well, I find myself enjoying them. Yeah, yeah. Because they're fun to watch. But also then I think about what would those crying faces look like? And they would be some good crying faces.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Some really good crying faces. You get crying moms that you've seen. I think Khan Nipple might be a good cry. He would be a great cry. That's what I'm focused on is like the cheeks would get extra red. It would be a solid cry So I'm gonna be rooting for the Cougs But I do think that Duke is gonna win by the way side tangent Should we do a finale review of white lotus next week because I have a lot of thoughts on this show and it's it's starting
Starting point is 00:04:38 To piss me off. Mm-hmm. Should we do that? I think we could yeah Just the finale. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Yes no spoilers But yeah, watch just finale Hank has not watched any of white lotus the finale is Sunday night I've watched two episodes of season one, but I'm told that doesn't matter or they're not related. They are There's one little tiny. There's a thread one thread see if you can pick up on the thread. Okay. Yeah Yeah, watch the watch the first episode of season one, the first episode of season two, and then the finale of season three and see if you can figure out the three.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I just keep thinking to myself, like, this is the place that Cliff Kingsbury bought a one-way ticket to. Oh, yeah, that's right. Remember that? I forgot about that. I think that's the horniest move that an adult male can do, is to buy a one-way ticket to Thailand.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah. Yeah, I would say so. But now he's back. Yeah, horniest and weirdest. Yeah. I mean, would say so. I was back. Yeah. Horny us and weirdest. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we know from what's it? What's Sam Rockwell's character? Yes. Yeah. Which I got a lot of say this for the recap. I just Yeah. The great Gary guy piss me off. Yeah. He just he just keeps staying at White Lotus. Mm hmm. It's fucking crazy. He loves it. He loves it.
Starting point is 00:05:45 He loves it. Dude, go to any hotel anywhere in the world. Yep. Just keeps going to white lotuses. But yeah, basketball. Yeah, basketball. Pump for the final four. I don't know what to expect in Auburn, Florida.
Starting point is 00:05:54 I can't, I've closed my eyes. I've tried to visualize this game. Basically if Clayton is hot, Florida wins. Yeah, I'm curious to see what Florida's gonna do because Condon's a really, really good defender and I think they might just be like, Hey, look, we're gonna, we're gonna let broom do what he does. And if he scores, you know, in the post, that will be fine. We can't let the, you know, their guards, Denver Jones and Pettiford just go crazy. But I'm, I, both these games are going to be great. I'm, I'm very
Starting point is 00:06:25 excited. I think they're going to deliver. I think we're going to get two close games because I keep going back to like Florida, Auburn to me is a complete like toss-up because I just think the both those teams are battle tested. Auburn was the best team for 29 of the 29 games of the regular season. Obviously the end weren't as good, but they found their footing. Florida was probably the hottest team going down the stretch. Houston, Duke, my only hope as someone who does not like Duke is that Houston has man strength that Duke's not ready for.
Starting point is 00:06:58 But I know that's also not true because Cooper Flags so good, Moloch is so good, Proctor's so good, like Nipple is so good. So they're, and by the way, I know that I'm not saying his name right, but I'm calling him Nipple, cause that's just what we're doing. It's way more fun to say that.
Starting point is 00:07:11 It's so much more fun. Yeah, you might be right. I don't know, Houston is a lot older. I do think that makes somewhat of a difference at that age. Yeah, the only problem is Duke is like so, Duke is so fundamentally sound in every like portion of the game that like Houston the way Houston wins these games a lot of times is you know they are not the
Starting point is 00:07:33 best shooting team but they get so many offensive rebounds and then Duke is just going to get all the defensive rebounds because Duke is just fundamentally sound so it's like all those Houston Houston's Kelvin Sampson, Houston always has that calculation where they're like, we don't have to shoot great because we'll just keep shooting and we'll get 15 more shots than the other team. They shot pretty good last week. Yeah. Yeah. Hank, do you have any thoughts? You rooting for Duke? I'm rooting for Houston. I have a Houston future that I put in after the Eagles won the Superbowl. So I have Houston straight up. I think it's nine to one. And then I have a natural parlay of Trey young to win clutch player of the year and Houston to make the natural floor. I just said, you know, hand in hand, like obviously, oh, parlay those things. Yeah. Naturally you had to also parlay Trey. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Like you're going to bet Trey young. Yeah. You got to have you have to win. You have to also bet Houston to make the final four yards How do you go about setting the odds for clutch player of the year? I just asked Stephen Che it was right after the Eagles won and I'm like Steve and I just want a bunch of money I want to basically invest in some futures is how I think about it like store some money away and He gave me some very Stephen Che analytical answer about how stray young is a Definitely gonna win clutch player of the year. This was in February. It's not looking great right now Yeah, so and I guess he missed like three shots in the last two minutes last night including the game winner
Starting point is 00:08:55 That could have been it. Yeah, so That's an issue, but I also have Houston straight up to win the championship. This was before the tournament I'm gonna cash out. Well, I don't think you can. And Stephen Che also, I unfortunately sat down in the gambling cave two days ago and I was on this over. Oh yeah. So yeah, it was so blue call and they were just talking about it. And so now I am rooting for Anthony Edwards. Yeah. Clutch player of the year. Just to go against Stephen Che. No, no, no. He would understand. No, he said it's even credible value. Yeah. He made me bet. I bet it. I have Anthony Edwards to win clutch player of the year just to go get Stephen Chey. No Yeah, he made me bet I bet it I have Anthony Edwards to win clutch player of the year such a made-ups award Yeah, can I is that is that bet still open? Can I bet? Yes? Yes, Jalen Brunson is minus 170 right now
Starting point is 00:09:37 but he's hurt and there's a chance he doesn't meet the Game requirement requirements player of the year. Yo, Kich is gonna. Yeah. He's plus 190, Trey Young's plus 550, and that's dropped significantly. Like it used to, he was plus 190 for a while. And Anthony Edwards was like 50 to one. And Stephen Shea thinks that they just decided on who scores the most clutch points. And Anthony Edwards is only four points behind
Starting point is 00:10:02 in the clutch points scored. The most ridiculous award of all time Right. It was also Stephen being like Stephen. What should I you know, I need a good good future He goes Oh Trey young clutch player of the year completely made up Fictional yeah, but he's got a hot feeling for there should be an opposite award least clunk. Yeah I I did like JJ ready. Did you guys see him just crashing the awards? Yeah, like that the most improved player He's like this is the dumbest award because it's just a lottery pick who finally got good. Yeah. A good player that figured out how to play good in the NBA. Good better. And he was just like, yeah, none of my guys are gonna win. So why would I talk about it? Yeah, there's also john Moran being investigated again. Yeah, MBA has launched an investigation against john Moran. And I believe buddy healed to for simulating a gun, which I think this is progress. Yeah. This should be sim this should be celebrated. The fact that John Moran is now not holding a gun. Yeah. It wasn't a salt rifle. It looked
Starting point is 00:10:55 like, but I don't know if you watch, but I did see it. Yeah. He did do the two hands. Could have been a shotgun. It could have been a shotgun and a sporting gun. It also could have been one of those like, uh... Super Soaker? Spear fishing guns? Spear fishing guns. Yeah. Also, Draymond, kind of a snitch? Huge snitch. Yeah, just turned around, looked at this guy.
Starting point is 00:11:12 He was like, did you see that gun? So how, he's gonna win Defensive Player of the Year. That's crazy. Who? Draymond. Yeah. Heavy favorite. Hehehe. I just, make up your mind, NBA.
Starting point is 00:11:21 Do you want John Morant to hold a gun, or do you want him to not hold a gun? Because that's all I saw last night, was him not holding a gun. He was not holding a gun. He was simulating it. His hands were empty. We also taped early on Tuesday. So we missed a Russell Westbrook ruin. Yoko just maybe greatest game ever where he scored 61 had 10, 10 rebounds, 10 assists, and then full Westbrook at the end of the game, missing a layup, which he didn't need to take. Well, he was, and then following a three point shooter with no time. He also did the Russ Russell Westbrook thing where he just decided to go full speed. Yeah. Like down the court. He's like, I'm going to sprint. I'm going to go as fast as
Starting point is 00:11:54 I can then misses it and then comes back and blows it again. That was a great game though. It was a great game. It was a great game. And Hank, I feel like the Celtics gave up on the one seed kind of following what you said because didn't they sit players? They haven't worried about the one. The one seat has been over for months. Yeah. There's no, there was never really a path. The Cavs would have had to have like gone on a insane losing streak. Things do look pretty bad for Mr. Bing Bong too, for Jerry, for his Knicks. Cause Don't even bring that up. It just feels, it feels every time they play one of the two teams. They're gonna have to play yes. They get their ass kicked yes
Starting point is 00:12:32 Your Knicks oh I cashed out To win the NBA finals, and I think it was less than a week later That's all the 40 piece them, but I think it was I think was the Cavs I think they lost the Cavs. I think they lost to the Cavs and I was like, fuck this. I'm not going to just spend my money. Hank, let me ask you a question because you're not worried about the Cavs. Are you worried about the Thunder because the Thunder are really fucking good? No. Too young? I'm sure they were damn young. I just think if the Celtics are healthy, they can beat anyone. The Thunder
Starting point is 00:13:00 are really, really good. The Thunder are a good team. And they can do everything. But they don't have the experience. And I think even if both teams are really good and they could do everything but they don't have the experience and I think even if both Teams are fully healthy and playing their a games the Celtics still win. I don't know man Watching the thunder there's I mean, they're just they have the MVP What you don't think so max? No, I think Hank is acting way too. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I would agree They're 64 and 12 and they their defense really good champions. Okay. Yeah, but how often is a year champions win again? Yeah, it was a year ago. I
Starting point is 00:13:32 Mean it's happened recently you're acting like because you're you're the defending champions that it's just all it's like yeah You're the win again. No, it's not automatic, but it's like I'm not like a max Are you worried about winning the Super Bowl next year? Yeah, of course exactly You should be because you get worried league's change on max knows ball That was smart But if they had the same exact team more or less then I feel like he'd be like we won the Super Bowl with this Team we can win the Super Bowl again But you also didn't play this like you're playing different team who said they're gonna advance you said you're gonna advance
Starting point is 00:14:06 True we're gonna get I NBA, what are we? Two weeks? No, but the playing games are coming up. I think yeah, there's two more weeks to record this season. Way to go Jerry Reinsdorf, the Bulls officially clinched a play in game. So that's all he wanted. Love that for you. Just end.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Every year 38 wins and a loss in the playing game. That's fucking so sick. That's how you build a team But you had an exciting March. Yeah, you know what? You know what's fun about having an exciting March in the NBA March NBA does not fucking matter because half the teams are not even trying Yep, so when you say oh man, look at this team hot in March, turns out that's all fool's gold. January, February, bulls. Fake ass month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 It's like if you look at the NBA any given night, I mean, there's the clear tanking teams, but then there's also teams that are like, we're gonna just take this night off. And then if, so if you start playing well in March, you're just a fake team. That's really what it comes down to. Yeah. Unless you obviously were already a good team and you just keep rolling. But any team that's
Starting point is 00:15:08 like, wow, man, they're coming on strong in March, fake. Any team that's like, oh, we took a nose dive in March. It's like, well, you did that intentionally for probably a smart reason. Right. Like the Sixers. Right. And just like, oh, oh, wow. You beat a bunch of teams that aren't trying to win, that are actively trying to lose and get better draft position. Must be really close to winning something big. Max, can you send the lottery one time? Oh yeah, I like this.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Give us one sim. There we go. Oh no. You just said there we go. I saw the Wizards load. I saw the butthole basketball. PFT, you just celebrated the Sixers getting the first pick. It's fine. They're not allowed to have it Oh my god this one for pug. I can't believe you why did you celebrate cuz I? Logo was the last one that I saw and I thought it's not sex that'd be a nightmare
Starting point is 00:15:55 I got six I gotta be honest. I'm really I'm terrible at Tankathon at the simulator I I can never get like statistically I should get it once every what eight times seven times every morning I wake up I go to tank it on and I simulate it probably 20 times until it happens I'm no good at it Hank are you kind of sneaky rooting for the Sixers to get Cooper flag just so you can get max off the mat when it comes to the basketball no okay okay wait what I was just wondering what do you mean off the mat like you've just been dead? Oh, no, I'm actively looting for the sixers to lose Yeah What I'm saying though is like you get your flag
Starting point is 00:16:32 You'll have to come back and then when we beat you it'll write and Joel bead is probably never gonna play basketball again And so like you are you're gonna be heading back into a deep Process and if you get Cooper flag flag you could be out of the process pretty quickly. But they it doesn't matter if they have like you know an all world talent on their team they're still going to lose. Yeah. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:16:53 They're the Sixers. They are the Sixers. He's cocky Hank. Yeah he is. He is feeling himself Hank. Big time. Big time. Did you guys see Anthony Edwards also just paid for his entire child support at once?
Starting point is 00:17:05 Respect. Wow. Lump sum. Wow move. She took the lump sum. She took the lump sum. It was like $1 million. Yeah. For the next 18 years.
Starting point is 00:17:13 You see what Elon paid that girl Ashley? No. He paid her $2.5 mil up front and then $500 grand a year. Whoa. It's a pretty good, that's a great job. Damn. Rocket baby. Rocket baby.
Starting point is 00:17:24 What's that noise? I Just they're building the mini golf. Yeah It's max farting we got Masters next week I'm excited very excited some great sports coming up. I got to download the Masters app That is it is the greatest piece of technology to ever exist. It's a great feeling. They're doing, they're doing, uh, like stats from the range. I know you can watch every single shot getting really clued insane amount of data. Yeah. The sickos are going to love this.
Starting point is 00:17:54 The gambling sickos of golf that are like, well, his range session, he was a little bit all over the place. Like that's it's going to be, it's too much information. Prolisers by analysis. It's exciting to, I'm excited to see how people overanalyze range sessions. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's, we, we gotta do, we gotta pick our final four teams cause we, we got a little competition we're going to do.
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Starting point is 00:20:48 Money line we're picking money line, and then it's a rollover so it's gonna be with DraftKings. We're picking our teams So if you bet Duke, and then you obviously a thousand dollars would win you 600 I'll pull it up right now, but let's do a let's do a lotto ball to figure out the order And then we'll go in order. We can go 0 to 25, 25 to 50, 50 to 75. That's fair. OK, I like that. I'll take three.
Starting point is 00:21:12 And then we'll just go in clockwise. OK. Hank, you have 0 to 25. Max, you have 25 to 50. Specifically three. You have 51 to 75. And then I have 76 to 99. Or 100. Or 44.
Starting point is 00:21:30 I hope it's 3. I really hope it's 3. 39! That's Max! So that's me. So I get... So I get first one. Can we go clockwise? Counter.
Starting point is 00:21:44 We go clockwise counter What what we never go counter? My first pick will be Well, it's your only pick. Yeah my yes, but my first overall pick will be Auburn at plus 130 So that would be 1000 would be 1300. Okay, so I would get a $1,300 bonus bet. OK. I will go Florida. Oh OK. So if my first pick's still here that's minus one fifty five you'll get sixteen forty five. Yeah. Yeah. I'll take Houston. Longest odds. You're a piece of shit. I mean what did you. I don't know why they didn't take Houston. That's plus 220. I know but it's free bets. I just want to fade max. Yeah Why I just I like Auburn, okay, I
Starting point is 00:22:35 Like Houston, can I take a crown game? Nope, you're taking Duke. Yeah, you can't you actually wait cannot you love Duke? The fall from grace with Hank and Duke is crazy. Do it has a minus two seven. Where did Duke touch you? No, I'm just kidding. I'll take it's when coach gay died. Yeah, it's sad This was the death of of dookie. Hey, you were a fan of a coach imagine that That's not true. It's more just like I again I've talked about it Maybe I'll him or a lot of like all talk to our rider that my dad Changed him watching this gamers are low So it's like what well now you just called him out. Yeah, you better watch the game. Mr. Lockwood Yeah, if it's the early game, it probably will he'll be listening. No, it's like what? Well, now you just called them out. Yeah. You better watch the game. Mr. Lockwood. Yeah. If it's the early game, it probably will. He'll be listening. No, it's the late game. It's the late game. So they already have the schedule out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:13 As if the why didn't look at it? I don't know what time they play at. You don't think you're going to watch. I actually kind of like that, Hank. I might, I might start taking that strategy when it's like the tournament or like maybe even NBA and NHL playoffs just not looking at the schedule and just being surprised with whatever games on well You know oh shit. That's cool. This games on now. Yeah, that's how I'm with networks Yeah, like I always wait till the last second to find out what network a game is on now my dad and shout to my dad But he'll probably wake up at like 4 a.m. Sunday and check the score got it Early riser early riser early riser. I got a question for you guys To show hey, Otani have aura because I think he has maximum or I mean he hit a walk-off home run on
Starting point is 00:23:59 Bobblehead night and if you watch that clip so the Dodgers have not lost. The Braves have not won. They were tied five five in the bottom of the ninth show. Hey, it comes up. The fucking place goes electric for his entrance. First pitch home run. Just he doesn't change anything about his like expression, swing, anything. It's just business as usual. I think show. Hey, Tony has reached the next level of super stardom where he just has the most aura in the show. Hey, Tony has reached the next level of super stardom where he just has the most aura in the game. This is an interesting debate. Show. Hey, what time does does the best player in baseball have it? Does he have the it factor? I think he has the aura fact. I think he's had the aura. But we haven't had a best player in
Starting point is 00:24:39 baseball have aura for a while. Well, for a while we knew that we didn't have that because the debate was who is the face of base. Correct. And I think it's settled. while. Well, for a while, we knew that we didn't have that because the debate was who is the face of correct. And I think it's settled show his face and the arms is everything. And his dog is the dog of baseball. Yeah, he's everything. I just I watched that clip and I got chills. And that's when I knew oh my god. Now you also like it's not necessarily like hey, he's so good. That's why he has or because obviously there's a language barrier barrier. And he's not he's not marketed in, hey, he's so good, that's why he has or because obviously there's a language barrier. And he's not he's not marketed in the state. I mean, he is now but for the first whatever six, seven years of his career at the Angels.
Starting point is 00:25:14 But now I think it's just Max Morra and he is the face. It was against the Braves. Yeah, we're not having a great season so far. I think Braves fans they need to burn blooper and effigy. I think they need to kill blooper. Yeah, I said yesterday light them on fire. I realized that was going a little too far No run them over with a truck. I think just lighting get your blooper dolls out. You have a little bonfire Yeah, run run the dolls over how many losses until you say run them over with a truck like to two more two more
Starting point is 00:25:39 Two more and then it is run them over a truck. Yeah, max you agree. I think it's three more I think right now they're oh and seven right? yeah, they get the double digits. Oh and ten I think there was a stat no team has ever gone to the playoffs after starting going seven in baseball. Yeah, it's fact Yeah, I feel like that doesn't happen that often oh and seven just because usually win one the Padres are also undefeated They are so that's interesting for that that division. Yes That was bad that was no hand backs hand up bad edition happy we're happy you're here I opted in taking shots I'm glad that you're listening to the show and you're contributing it to it yes that's very good not everyone can do that no not
Starting point is 00:26:20 everyone can do that correct that. That's a fact. I'm happy that everyone on this show can. Everyone on this show can. Hey, where's Aaron Rodgers going to play football next year? So I've been thinking this for the last two and a half, three months. It's very strange how he hasn't made up his mind, obviously, and it's very strange
Starting point is 00:26:40 how the Vikings took a while to commit to JJ as their starting quarterback. It took longer than you think that it would. If they had a first round pick that they absolutely loved, they would just be like, oh yeah, Sam can go. No problem. This is JJ's team. By the way, there was a, you have to admit there was a flirtation. There's been some flirtations. Can I make one point? I think JJ McCarthy needs the last name. He hasn't earned JJ yet.
Starting point is 00:27:02 JJ McCarthy. He hasn't earned full JJ, don't you agree? That's fair, JJ McCarthy. He's gotta earn that. I think if he was just JJ, then it's like he's the starter. Right, once he's, yeah, when we just start calling him JJ, he's been doing it for a while.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Because we already have a JJ. Right, exactly. Justin Jefferson. So if Jedis gets the starting job, like right off the bat, if they're like, hey, Mr. McCarthy, we know that you're a guy for next year. I don't think they would even they wouldn't pause right if they if they were firmly committed to it. But it took them a while. And then they kind of got sick of the Aaron Rodgers thing. So then they said, Yeah, JJ McCarthy is going
Starting point is 00:27:36 to be our starting quarterback and we're fully committed to him. Meanwhile, I think Aaron Rodgers is waiting to commit to the Steelers until he knows for sure that the door is shut in Minnesota. Yeah. That's what I think is happening. That makes sense. But it just we're getting we're getting pretty close to the draft. Yeah. And I don't know. Like if Aaron Rodgers I mean he's old enough to retire. So it's not like a very Rogers 32 years old. I wouldn't it wouldn't even be a thought in my head because he's obviously playing. But as we get closer, if he wants to play for the Vikings, the Vikings say no, we're committing to J.J. McCarthy.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Could he retire? I don't, it all depends on what he saw in his most recent Vision Quest. Like he could come in after a long week and be like, no, I'm not playing football anymore. Yeah. Or he could be like, yeah, I'd like to sign a five-year contract. He never replied to my Steelers question mark from
Starting point is 00:28:27 a week ago. Disrespectful. Yeah. So did he say lose my number, bro? No, but I wonder if that means no Steelers. He has not confirmed it. Or denied. He has not confirmed interest in the Steelers confirmed or denied. Okay, what else? We got, oh, Hank lost his QB of the future. Yeah, Joe Milton. Bazooka Joe? Bazooka Joe is a Dallas cowboy, which both Max and I are upset about because we like Bazooka Joe and we want to root for him to be successful and it's just impossible to do that with the Cowboys. So it's kind of a bummer for us. That's my analysis I think bazooka Joe could be fun to watch yes
Starting point is 00:29:05 I I wanted him to go to a spot that he could like compete to be a guy I mean Dak doesn't always play that's a good point. That's a good point. He's not he's not a guy Yeah, he's literally he's literally a guy. Well. You don't know that you can't assume that sure he is a guy He is not the guy yet, but ever from the outside, it's fun to root for bazooka. Joe bazooka. Joe has a sick arm. Did he would not listen? I've done the bazooka. Joe experience when he was in the big 10 and then a Tennessee like he's he's bazooka. Joe. Yeah, but that's not touch pass Joe. That's the beauty of bazooka. Joe is that we've all seen bazooka. Joe and know what he is But it's fun to get re excited for bazooka Joe
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah, I just I would I would rather him just be in like, you know You know what would make me excited if dude perfect signed bazooka Joe now I would hate that would be sick. I would make some sick videos with dude. Perfect. What Hank you're sad about bazooka Joe I'm not I mean we got Drake may that's that's my quarterback of the future Fifth round pick kind of tells you everything you need to know I think well I mean he's good analysis he improved in value. He got two rounds better last year Yeah, but like I fit their own pick Bill Belichick built his career off fifth round picks
Starting point is 00:30:20 That's all he only drafted in the fifth round. What was Tom Brady six? Yeah, that's what I thought good point not fifth Checkmate though Yeah, Kate's fifth. He hates me. He thinks six is better than fifth He'd rather be drafting in the sixth in the foot I mean the Belichick model was trade your first your second your third round picks and get 25 picks in the fifth round Drake man, although I did Milton tough was a great nickname would have been a great shirt.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We we made those shirts. I don't think we sold them. I'm pretty sure when he was the quarterback at Michigan Dave was like Milton tough and then he. We had a Patriots version that. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:00 And then we were waiting for him to do something. No we had a great. So we haven't put out yet. We sold we sold Joe Milton tough sure Milton tough shirts for Michigan and I think he threw his first Screen three thousand miles an hour and then Dave took him down. Yeah, that's probably what happened We also changed the rules for hard knocks. Did you see that? No. So now a team that made the playoffs last year can Oh hard knocks team. That's awesome. So my ass is in the jackpot now. That's awesome. Is that why you brought it up?
Starting point is 00:31:34 No, that's what made the news stand out to me. Yeah, wait So what are the other rules? Are there any other rules? That's the only change. It's the only change So new new head coach is out. You can't have it. You still can't do that. Can't do that. And then so that's it. Yep So that's fun because now we have actually some Decent teams. We got some good teams. We could go to yeah, I mean Pittsburgh would be awesome if Aaron Rodgers there get to run that back. Yeah, I'm trying to think who I'd won on hard knocks this year I'm with count the Pats Well, you can't new head coach new head coach we just said that you don't know he forgot he forgot that variable was a new head
Starting point is 00:32:14 coach because he's been a coach in the NFL before so so I understand what he was thinking there we should be we should be room for the Chargers Chargers be awesome Harbaugh Chargers would be awesome Harb knocks may do a new head coach Just run it back with the lines or Dan Campbell also Kirk cousins had a meeting with Arthur blank Okay, apparently is an hour-long meeting and Arthur blank says that he took five pages of notes conversation I don't know what he could possibly how many of that were doodles. I don't know five pages of notes What would the notes be about? I might be a new chapter of the Bible. I don't know What rich guys love taking notes during meetings? Oh, yeah fake notes big-time fake notes writing things down
Starting point is 00:33:01 Look how productive I was but I will say there's something about Just writing things down look how productive I was but I will say there's something about Showing up to a meeting with pen and paper I always feel like such an asshole because I never show up to me with pen and paper and then there'll be people with Pen and paper and I'm like fuck like this should be a one if anything a one cheater It should be yeah, it kind of sucked when you drafted a quarterback Yeah, or it could be five pages of notes where it's just like Kirk Cousins passing him a note saying, can I start and him passing it back saying no. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Back and forth over and over. Yeah. How about now? Still no. Write down a team that you would be willing to go to. Not that one. Yeah. Write down another team.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Not that one. Not that one. That's an interesting five pages of notes. No idea what that would be. I would pay a good amount of money for those notes. Yeah. Good amount. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 Okay. Do we have anything else? Oh, did it? Was there another? I got to say something. I'm officially done with conversations comparing errors in the NBA. I feel like that's all that is talked about at this point. I'm getting tired of it.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I know LeBron said it in relation to other people saying it, but wasn't there a recent one that like Stephen A Smith or someone said someone from this, the eighties said that, that Steph Curry couldn't even score like 15 points against us. Cause we would have heard them. That is the most insane thing ever. It's also just, I'm tired of it. We're never going to, we got it. We just got to get the playoffs here. This is a late March situation. Yeah. I mean we had a debate the other day of Shaq versus Yocic. Yeah. Oh yeah. That was a fiery one. They play different positions. Yeah. And I'm sure that both could be successful in the other person's era. Uh, yeah. I would say both. I'd say prime Shaq will be dominant anytime and prime Yocic should be dominant
Starting point is 00:34:42 anytime. Yep. Agreed. Yeah. Why can't we just say all the good players would be good in there? Why can't we just be like these guys are really good at basketball. Let's enjoy watching them play. They're so sick that we do need someone who there needs to be someone in The media who just actually was JJ Reddick. That's the that's the problem. That's maybe that's what's happened Actually, it was JJ Reddick. That's the that's the problem. That's maybe that's what's happened. The vacuum for this debate is like the power vacuum because JJ Reddick is now coaching. JJ Reddick was the guy who just was like, yeah, the players this like now are just incredible. Like, let's just enjoy that. Yeah. And if you took them and dropped them back into the 1980s,
Starting point is 00:35:19 they'd be really, really, really fucking if you made them grow up in the 1980s, they'd probably be very good at basketball, but as dominant as they are now, right, right Case closed case closed happy. We had that debate basketball is good. There you go. Good basketball players are good. Yep agreed Alright, do we have anything else in the sports world? That's going on. It's getting people upset Let's get people ready. So dicky V We we diggy V we only had him on for 15 minutes. People were wondering he's still working back with his throat and his voice So we were offered we're like hey you get dicky V wants to come on PMT only give you 10 minutes We're like we'll take anything. It ended up being closer to 15. He's the best
Starting point is 00:36:01 He's the absolute best and Cody Rhodes was awesome in person. Really, really fun. Great time. Is there anything else? Max, I guess we'll talk about a Fyre Fest. We'll do a little recap of what happened on Wednesday's show. Thank you everyone for subscribing after Wednesday's show. Yeah, appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:36:19 Yeah, please keep subscribing. We appreciate all the subscriptions. Okay, well, oh, also San Antonio. I will be there Friday and Saturday, we're doing live shows 6 p.m. Central and 2 p.m. Central on Saturday 6 p.m Central Friday 2 p.m. Central Saturday. What's does anyone know where we're doing it River Icehouse River, can you find it for me River Ice House. I'm gonna chip myself to death. Riverwalk. I'm gonna eat so many chips.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I'm gonna go to Austin in solidarity and have some breakfast tacos and some chips and queso and barbecue and it's gonna kick ass. Yeah. And cold beer. I'm back on beer. Oh, beer's back. Beer's back. Beer's so good.
Starting point is 00:36:59 I would agree. Beer is very good. Wait, what? I didn't tweet it. So Hank, you got it? I'm looking. Hank's got it. I don't know who Dave torpedo bats. Also, OV is three away. Oh, yeah, three away. And now I'm moving up my timeline. I think if if he gets to one by Sunday after Sunday's game, I think I'm gonna have to go to a game next week
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Starting point is 00:40:52 Okay. Here he is. Dickie V. Okay. We now welcome on a very, very, very, very, very special guests. Someone we've wanted on for a very long time. It is the legend, Dick Vitale. Dickie V, we appreciate you so much coming on. Just so our listeners know, you are still working your way back all the way through health. So your doctor said maybe seven to 10 minutes that you can talk to us, but we said any minutes, if we had two minutes with Dickie V, we're taking it. So first of all, how are you feeling? How's everything going? Well, first of all, you're very kind. I'll tell you, you guys really, I know so very, very popular. My grandkids called me up and said,
Starting point is 00:41:33 Oh my God, you're going to be on a big cat. TTF. I feel really good physically. I, you know, when you're a cancer survivor, it's scan by scan. My last scan, I was totally cancer-free. I'll get all nervous again when I gotta go for another scan in May. Because, let me tell you guys, my heart goes out to every cancer patient. I know that feeling.
Starting point is 00:41:58 And I coach for years and you get tense and all in the game when it's close, but there's nothing like waiting for the results. Is that phone call is life changing. If he tells you it stands great, you're cancer free. Man, it's heaven. But if he tells you cancer came back, it's back to chemotherapy, radiation and all that.
Starting point is 00:42:20 And it really gets nerve wracking and I can feel for every cancer patient, and on my message to any cancer patient listening as well, to always think positive and have faith. Because really, that got me through what I did. As you guys know, four different battles, one with melanoma, one with lymphoma, vocal cord cancer, which was the toughest for me.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Couldn't speak for unbelievable weeks and weeks. And then I got lymph node cancer. So again, through it all, I want to talk basketball, man. We got to watch madness. Yes. Yes. So by the way, everyone, May 2nd, his gala, Dicky V's gala to benefit the V Foundation for Cancer Research. So we're raising money for pediatric cancer. You're doing a great job. So let's talk final four, uh, probably the best final four we've ever seen in terms of these four teams. Any other year are worthy champions. Is there a team out of the four that you see as a cut above? Well, you know, certainly we got the best of the best plan, but you know, also when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:43:23 I was just thinking the other day, 1985 was pretty good too. When you had certainly Villanova and you had Georgetown and Memphis, the St. John's and we can take a lot of children. It's a pretty good, it's special because these are the four teams that have been listed basically all years, the best of the best. So you're getting the best against the best. And we got some great matchups. The one thing, and I pray from day one,
Starting point is 00:43:49 I have figured to win it all, and that's gonna change my mind right now until we get results, but there's a reason I picked that. Number one, any time a team is top five guys in offensive and defensive efficiency, I mean, they got a great chance to win because if you're not shooting well and you're defending well, you're going to stay in the game. And that's where Duke's the only team in the country. That's top five by Ken Pomeroy in efficiency
Starting point is 00:44:17 in both areas. Yeah. And if you were to pick apart Duke, what is their weakness? What would that be? If Houston finds a way to win this game? How do you think they do it? Well, I think he used the number one if they're going to win the game They're going to rely on their great defense. I think there's gonna be a lot of motion in the game for Houston as well Because last year They really had two kind of ropes. They had a lot of ropes until their star got hurt. Sheen was down with the uh, He's with the toronto raptors. I believe He got hurt and that game turned around when he went out.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So they're going to play with a little chip on their shoulder. Plus let's face it, when you're Duke, I don't care who you play. It's like my son-in-law told me, please play quarterback at Notre Dame. And I once was, I love to get saying to him, Oh, you got a cupcake this week. I think we're playing Navy. That's a cupcake. So you're out of your mind. He's never a cupcake this week. I think we're playing Navy. That's a cupcake. So you're out of your mind. He's never a cupcake for us.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah. Everybody here at Northern when they played more than a day, they're at another level, we'll say with Duke, you play Duke and basketball. You play Kentucky and basketball. You play schools like that teams play at such a high level. They commit. So you got to match that. And I think John Shire's done a great job with that.
Starting point is 00:45:26 Getting his players to understand, understand how it really is important to play at a higher level because people want to beat you so badly. Yeah. And with Cooper flag, is he the biggest diaper dandy of all time? Because he's, he might be the youngest diaper dandy, right? Cause he, he enrolled early. Well, you're right about that, Patrick. He is so young.
Starting point is 00:45:46 There's no doubt about it. Uh, I, I look at the kid, I saw him in high school and I said this, I've seen him on ESPN. Some people took it the wrong way. They got all over on the case because they said, Oh, how could he be putting his name in there with a bra and would, would call me in magic. What I said was, if they'd listened, I said at the same age, in my 45 years at ESPN,
Starting point is 00:46:10 three guys that I've seen with skills and ability that he has, and that was LeBron. I did his game in high school. I'm talking about games of kids I did in high school. I didn't do Kareem in high school, but I did LeBron in high school. I didn't do Kareem in high school, but I did LeBron in high school. I did a game with Kobe Bryant in high school. And I saw a magic a number of times in high school because I was recruiting him and I got rejected. He went to Michigan
Starting point is 00:46:35 State. I was trying to give him the keys to the city of Detroit. But anyway, the bottom line is I just think he's so special. What he does is so rare and that he doesn't have to score to be probably the most valuable player on the court. Yeah. He does a phenomenal job. He trapped, he draws so much attention. It creates angles and spacing for Kniepel and the kid inside. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Is he going to be special? Moloch is unbelievable. What he does defensively. Hey guys, when you got three players right now, I looked at the draft yesterday, a mock draft, three guys, they're going to be drafted in the top seven. Several others going in the second round. My God, you got a chance to win. Yeah. Yeah. And so PFT mentioned a diaper, Danny Cooper flag. I mean, PTP or it's gotta
Starting point is 00:47:23 be Walter Clayton and Jani Broom, both those guys. That's two PTPers going up against each other on the other side of the bracket. Well, Clayton certainly has been Mr. Clutch. He's been unbelievable. You know, he played for Rick Pitino down at Iona, but he wanted to stay in the state of Florida
Starting point is 00:47:38 where he's from to go through his next stop. But if he went to St. John's, wow, wow. Because Pitino was my coach of the year this year, the job he did with St. John's. Wow. Wow. That's Latino was my coach of the year this year. Uh, the job he did with St. John's. Yeah. Agreed. Uh, Dickie, are you, I know you had a stretch there where you only ate out. You never ate in, you never ate at home. Did you keep that alive? How long was that stretch for? Because I used to join your periscopes when you'd go out to breakfast every morning and I'd just be sitting
Starting point is 00:48:03 in there basically eating breakfast with you. Wow, that's really cool, man. I'm really proud of that, big cap. But the bottom line is we go out every night. I love people. I love it. You know what it did for me? Even through my chemo, even through all my radiations, I told my wife, I want to go out. I'm not going to sit home and mope and cry, you know, and feel sorry. And because let's face it, when you're a cancer patient and you're doing your chemo and your radiation, you're always is a tendency, tendency when you're alone, to think all the worst. Is this my last day? Is this, but if you get out, and I used to love to get out with people and be around people. Of course, I love people, guys. I really do.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I love, I've been that way. I've been a hunk all my life. You want to must it on me? I've been that way. A little wacky like you guys. When I was younger, I was wacky like you guys. But that's why you're so popular, because you're real, you're genuine. And that's what makes you guys. But that's why you're so popular because you're real, you're genuine. And that's what makes
Starting point is 00:49:05 you guys. The whole arsenal. So I would David, the bottom line is guys are all real. You tell it from your heart. You're not afraid to share an opinion. And people appreciate that. Yeah, I think people, a lot of people appreciate you, Dick. I'm sure that you've had a lot of people that reached out over the last couple of years and, and let you know exactly how loved you are, how they're rooting for you. I'm curious though, when you were going through the treatment and you couldn't talk, what was that like? And cause you're a guy that loves to talk like that's, that's your thing. You, you love talking to people. Would you go home? Would you,
Starting point is 00:49:35 would you write? How did you get these thoughts out? I will tell you this, uh, Patrick, no, no doubt about it. It was the toughest time for me. I felt trapped. I felt trapped. I had a whiteboard and I would write on the board and all that for my wife, you know, get me this, do this, do that. But even when you do that, you really can't communicate like you want.
Starting point is 00:49:56 You get so... I've done many times I got so frustrated because I want... Especially when I was in the hospital doing a chemo and I couldn't talk and, you know, writing a paper, right on a chalkboard, I had their whiteboard. And you can only write so much,
Starting point is 00:50:12 you can't tell what you're really going through. And my darkest moment was, and I'll tell you this, I've told other people this, and I think about it all the time, was in the hospital doing chemo and I had a bad, bad day. I mean, it was a bad day, so much so, that normally I would go home after the chemo and the doctors came in and they said,
Starting point is 00:50:34 "'Dick, we can't let you go home. "'It's sweet. "'We got to monitor everything.'" And my family was there with me and wife, daughters, grandkids, and I got three at Duke, they're open Duke. I got two at Notre Dame. My Notre Dame was on two time lacrosse national champ.
Starting point is 00:50:50 And my dog, man, she's watching right now, sending these words to my granddaughters. She loves you guys. She's watching and she graduated at Notre Dame, played tennis. And I got three right now playing tennis on top 10 teams at Duke, rather, in tennis. And they got free right now playing tennis on top 10 teams that voted at Duke rather in tennis. So they're cheering for their Dukies.
Starting point is 00:51:09 But they were all in the hospital. They were there visiting me and it was time to leave at nine o'clock. And they left. And when they left, I really, as I tell people, I cried like a baby. I'll never forget that day as long as I live. I was like hysterical.
Starting point is 00:51:24 And the nurse came in and the nurse was terrific. She said, Dick, what's, calm down. You're gonna be fine. She said, why are you crying so much? I said, I don't know, man. I'm wondering if that's the last time I see my, I jumped up thinking about, last time I'm gonna see my family.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I said, it's been such a tough day But anyway bottom line is I came through it messages. I can't tell you how many messages I haven't used my phone that day for about six seven hours and all of a sudden I went to my phone I have messages you name a coach they Patinos and calipari and there's those right down the line. All the Italians naturally have all these, but the bottom line is they all, you know, wishing me the best, keep fighting. Remember Jimmy V, don't give up. Don't ever give up. And all of that meant so much to me that it made me really say to myself, I'm going to beat this suck. I'm going to beat it. We get out of here.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I'm going to beat it. And fortunately it worked out that way. But like I said, cancer patients only know this like I do, that you go scan to scan and you wait for that next scan. I'm really counting the days really to make. You mentioned my gallop. I mentioned my gallop. I appreciate that so much, McCapp. The bottom line is we've raised $92.8 million since I started for pediatric cancer.
Starting point is 00:52:50 If people, I know you got a lot of fans, they want to help join my team. We're going to go over $100 million on May 2nd. And we got great, great people we're honoring. Michael Strahan, who knows a lot about pediatric literature, his daughter, Barrow and Brain Cancer, now cancer free. We got the Grant Hill superstar. We got Danny Hurley coming in. We got John Calipari, Nancy Lieberman. I mean, Hannah Storm, it's gonna be a special night, special, but we're gonna raise,
Starting point is 00:53:22 and if anybody wants to join my team and help me raise those dollars, they, whatever they donate $50, $100, $2,000, you guys will donate more because you make a big cash. I'm only kidding. The bottom line is bottom lines. Just go to Dickfightal.com. Simple to make Dickfightal.com and you could donate, you could buy any of my merchandise, every dollar
Starting point is 00:53:46 that I would make on the purchase of any item, basketballs, books I give to the V Foundation. I love it. I love it. So, uh, I know we've taken a little over time, so we have one, I have one last thing. So my voice is okay. Okay. Yeah. I mean, listen, we, we, we, I hope you understand how loved you are where this show that we've been doing for almost a decade now our big thing is sports are supposed to be fun and you always were that guy you were the guy who sports were fun and you welcome people in and like you said you're a people person. I have to mention one thing so I've met you a couple of times before one was actually you were nice enough to take a picture with
Starting point is 00:54:21 me 2006 when I was a student at Wisconsin we beat Pitt Aaron Gray there were the number two team in the country you were you were you took a picture at halftime that's how great of a guy you are he's calling the game at halftime he's taking pictures the other one though was maybe the coolest power move I've ever seen in my life it was Florida State Notre Dame football 2014 I to say. And you showed up and you just walked right into this frat house that we're doing a show at, uh, use the bathroom, your wife, by the way, ride or die. She stood outside the door, made sure no one went in. And then you had like these postcards that you were handing out. There were signed postcards.
Starting point is 00:54:58 I loved the move because everyone wanted, everyone wanted to talk to you and you're just handing them out. And I was like, this guy's the best. He's the man of the people. He's going to the bathroom in a frat house. He's the best. That's you. Well, that's so nice of you. I really appreciate it. And I can tell you this, uh, you want the Wisconsin, you a hell of a student then because I couldn't spell was constantly asked me to go there. The bottom line is, uh, you know, I love people. I do. Hey, people don't recognize me. I'm going to restaurant. I put a sign in a back. Hey, I'm thinking V. Remember me. It is. It's true. But I, I like, you know, you meet people who are celebrities or in
Starting point is 00:55:37 the, in the public eye and sometimes they're not the same person. You are the same person. The two encounters I've had with you, just salt of the earth, just regular guy. And it's, it always struck me as like, man, he's exactly like I see on the TV. And I love that about him. Now you guys, I'm gonna make you my PR agents, man. I love you guys. Call me anytime. If you want me on, tell David, tell David, try some pizza here. A beautiful Sarah soda. I know they said he came. He was here one time, but he's got to try the pizza that's really, I think good at a place called Buccia Ballerina. Buccia Ballerina. Okay. It sounds great. So, Dickie, thank you so much for joining us. It's a dream come true to
Starting point is 00:56:17 get to talk to you and we hope you enjoy the game. So you got Duke against who in the championship? I got Duke Florida in the championship, dude, within the championship on the woman's side, you got great games. Man, tomorrow you get rich semi-finals. You got Gino R. Rieva. I really worry. My heart wants Connecticut.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Cause I love Paige Becker's and I want to see her get to the championship game. But, uh, UCLA is really good. They've got a young lady named Betsy who can really play. And then on the other side, you got Texas against South Carolina. I'm going with Dawn Stanley, man. She just knows how to win. I'm hoping to see Stanley and Oriana in the finals, two coaches that know what what he's about and Paige Becker's is special, really special.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Hey guys, I just figured something out. Look at them both of you. Yeah. Now I know why I got fired by the Pistons. My courts look like you suck. I know you I got fired by the pistons. My courts look like you suck. No, you can't. Oh man. Yeah. You nailed us. Yeah. You got an eye for talent. Yeah. All right. Well, Dickie, thank you. So one last thing I got, I got a special friend who we work with named Steven Che. Can you just say,
Starting point is 00:57:19 Hey, Steven Che, you're awesome, baby. Steven Che, man. You're awesome, baby. With a cap of the leg, you're awesome baby. Even say man you're awesome baby with a cap of the layer you're a P T beer. You know I lie a lot Stephen. Thank you Dickie. You're the best. We really appreciate your time and we're huge fans and keep fighting the good fight and we'll make sure we donate for that Gala in May 2nd. Thanks a lot for having me on. Remember good fights out dot com people. I'll do it. Absolutely. Alright thanks Dicky.
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Starting point is 00:59:36 WWE champion of the world it is Cody Rhodes He's got big big time WrestleMania coming up April 19th and 20th at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas. So Cody, first of all, thanks for coming by. Let's start with how it feels. So it's going to be about a year now that you've been the champion. How are we feeling? Is it everything that you dreamed about? Because I know it was a lifelong dream, but a year being champion, was it everything that cracked up to be? But a year being champion was everything they cracked up to be I feel like it's definitely a positive It's not that it's a negative, but I will say that it's nothing like I anticipated it to be what I Really quickly found out is that it is almost a de facto position in the office. It's almost It's it's a bigger position than just man in tights wrestling,
Starting point is 01:00:25 which is great. I love it because I love the infrastructure, I love the industry, I grew up in the business, my dad was behind the scenes in front of the camera, all that, but that was a part for me that I thought, oh, there's a layer of responsibility. Like a team captain, you know? And I tried to lean into it in the last several months
Starting point is 01:00:43 where I like that, I like being the big dog here as long as it's gonna, you know, it's gonna last. But it's been amazing. I really and especially for being a good guy character, right? To have the title this long is rather unheard of because everyone just tries to murder you every week. Right. I'm I'm I'm very lucky. Is that so? So speaking of like being babyface, because I think in today's day and age where people are more cynical yeah
Starting point is 01:01:09 edgier whatever you want to call it do you find that hard having to be the good guy when you're like man it's probably easier to just be the bad guy once in a while well it's always easier I feel every week I think they're gonna boo me and every week we've been lucky where it's been like, no, we like you. I genuinely find a surprise in every night and the way they do my entrance, I'm surrounded by all this cryo
Starting point is 01:01:35 and then it does this little sparks, these cold sparks, and then I can really hear the audience. And it's legit the coolest thing ever. I don't know. I don't know the formula. I think there's a element of being in the family and the love they had with my dad and the connection we have.
Starting point is 01:01:52 I think it's because I took them on the full ride from the time I was back at WWE. Also, the suspension of disbelief in what we do, everything about me is, I don't have a character. I am me, and I'm really happy that it's worked out Yeah, I'm always expecting like app today's barclays Barclays or something You know like our Chicago is always notoriously a tough wrestling market, and then it's in those places. They're like nah He's cool, so it's that's gotta feel. I'm very lucky at a certain point
Starting point is 01:02:20 Yeah, you know who knows but it's blessed. Yeah, I mean your story is incredible for those that don't know like you bet on yourself You actually are a good friend Robbie Fox. Yeah, you and him became pretty close. He like drove you around He showed me a picture where he took you to the emergency room So tell our listeners the story about how you bet on yourself the road that you went on that you brought people along When I was at WWE the first time and I was a legacy you went on that you brought people along? When I was at WWE the first time, and I was a legacy hire, you know, my dad was in the business, my brother was in the business,
Starting point is 01:02:48 godfathers, uncles, all that, I was in a great position, and then in the last three or four years, I technically, I hate using this term, but I technically became an enhancement talent, a jobber, and I was under the alias of stardust, I was pain in my face. It just was very much, I say beneath me, but I wasn't doing the work to out kick it either.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And I felt like I was trapped. So no one ever does this. What I would do next is really what set this all off. I ended up quitting WWE. Wasn't gonna get fired because of the legacy I had, but also things weren't gonna get better. I quit WWE and when I left, that's where I got to do bet on myself, as you said,
Starting point is 01:03:31 and got to mobilize the audience. I put a list together of various opponents, all different companies, all different continents, all this stuff I wanted to do. Cause I was a lifelong WWE kid. I'd been made in their system. And to be able to break out and do independent wrestling Deathmatch style stuff new Japan pro wrestling all this stuff that you didn't see As often I was able to bring everybody who had you know All the equity I had at WWE and bring them along with me and it was all a real journey in terms of I'm gonna try and get if this place holds 400
Starting point is 01:04:01 I'm gonna try and get 500 people in there you mentioned Robbie Fox We were at la boom in Queens, New York and hey, there's only a hundred some of the people here Well, guess what? We're gonna buy pizza for each and every one of them We tried to make what I was doing everything destination, even though it wasn't WWE. It wasn't USA It wasn't Fox. It wasn't one of our television partners I tried to make it destination because streaming was becoming a thing you could find me that turned into All in which was in Schomburg. There's a plaque on the building still I'm terrified
Starting point is 01:04:31 They're gonna take this plaque down at some point Me and Mad Nick Jackson doing the first show ever because the bet was nobody could get more than 10,000 No company other than WWE could get 10,000 people. 20 minutes later, we had 11,000 people. We had this Woodstock for wrestling, and really everything since that moment has just sparked off of that. An alternative wrestling promotion now exists in terms of AEW and being a founder at that,
Starting point is 01:04:57 and then being able to come back to WWE, be so well received, be so trusted, and take up the first journey I had in the business, which was this. My dad in 1977 wrestled superstar Billy Graham in Madison Square Garden, wins the match but doesn't win the title. But he got to do the thing where he held it up for the audience before the inevitable shoe drop from the announcer. And as a kid, that was it. That was my legitimate, no matter how you look at our business, not real real, however however I wanted to win the damn belt for him
Starting point is 01:05:27 And when I came back that was the one thing as a head This is what I'm going for it's as real as it will be presented on TV it's the it's as real behind the scenes as it is in front of the camera and I I was able to do it. That's very cool. Do you carry the belt around with you? Oh, I mean like what's the longest that you've ever gone without touching the belt? That's a great question I feel like I touch I feel like I touch the belt every day. Yeah Because I mean how boring is it if I came in here and I didn't have the belt? Yeah, you gotta have the belt to me I have a
Starting point is 01:06:01 There's multiple belts, right? There's there's one that's on TV and there's one that you can kind of take on the road with you But I keep the same one each time which was the one that I know Roman wore to the ring at WrestleMania 40. I've never even seen like touched the other one Yeah, it's somewhere so in case I was ever to forget it, but I get hands on it every day. Yeah. Yeah, well you have it You got it. Yeah, you got it. Yeah. Don't give it up. Keep winning. Now. Well, that's, that's the bittersweet thing about WrestleMania this year is I'm excited. This is another headline match. This is seen a retirement scene as, but that's the, that's the bittersweet
Starting point is 01:06:35 part. Yeah. I have to do what John did for all those years. Just win. Right. Right. That's not as, that's not that exciting to everybody who, maybe he'll break Rick Flair's record, but yeah, maybe he won't Yeah, like you said keep winning. Yeah, so the story you told it is great Did you have you had moments where you're like this was the path I had to take because you're you mention your dad Dusty Rhodes Legend hard times and the everyman and you kind of had it because for a while you were I don't want to say what? People thought but like I'm sure there were people like, oh he's a Nepo baby, he's in there because of his dad.
Starting point is 01:07:08 And then you found it on your own, the hard times. That's a really cool full circle moment where you're like, hey I was given a lot, but then I had to go earn it in its own way. It's almost a reverse situation from a lot of guys who worked their way up, whereas I got so many things afforded to me early, and then this is gonna sound like a silly parallel, but really the best way I can think about is if you've ever seen the movie The Lion King.
Starting point is 01:07:32 I went out there and found my Timon and Pumbaa and had to find what was inside for me. It's such a silly way to look at it. But being a Nepo baby or being a second or third generation in our industry, that's one thing. When it's dusty, you know, I think about some of these kids whose dads are essentially Mount Rushmore dads. You are forever behind the eight ball in a way. You're forever trying to, you don't even wanna say it
Starting point is 01:08:01 out loud because it sounds mean, but you're trying to be better than he was. I think the first person at WWE who realized, oh man, I will accept nothing less, is Mr. Heyman, is Paul Heyman. I think he's the first person who realized, oh, he's trying to do essentially with the impossible. And I got flanked, it feels so good,
Starting point is 01:08:21 but I got flanked by the best team when I came back. I mean, there are people there. And if I could shout them out, Michael Hayes, Triple H, I can't believe I'm going to say this guy's name, but The Rock, the final boss. Yeah. They, as much as what you see on screen is pretty volatile, the tools are right there.
Starting point is 01:08:39 It's, you know, when you, WWE right now, all those guys are right there to get that information from. And Triple H has been wonderful with me. He's been like a coach, putting me out on the field and just calling the plays and they've been great plays. Do you think The Rock one-on-one, is that gonna be in the future? Ah.
Starting point is 01:08:55 He did pin you last year. He did, and I'm a, I'm a bit of a egocentric individual who wants his win back. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Uh, he's got one over you. He could just retire tomorrow and you'd be screwed. I think, I think he's due for more than one match and I would love to be penciled in on, on one of those. Obviously that schedule is as intense as it gets,
Starting point is 01:09:17 but he's still so involved with WWE. He could have easily been the final boss and just kind of taken that as a customary title. Right. But he has really gotten his hands involved in what we're doing. And the thing I, even though we may not like one another, the thing I do like about him is instantly, no matter what he's done, record breaking Disney movie, whatever he did that weekend and then showed up. When you look at him, you can tell, Oh tell oh Brothers a wrestler. Yeah, he it's it's in there It's hidden the ropes and when and what the reaction you can get from doing wrestling moves in the ring and the promo on the interview I really have enjoyed that connection with him. I'd like to yeah, I'd like to be one of those
Starting point is 01:09:59 I think he has two matches he has to do. Okay, he has to do and I'm not putting any pressure on anyone put pressure on I think he does I'd love to see if him and his cousin Roman Reigns ever have this encounter yeah maybe it's the greatest match we never get just because timing whatever it may be and I think we need to finish our own story with with him and with myself but we we'll see. His cheat days are bullshit. Where he's like, oh, look at me, I'm the rock. I'm so, I have huge muscles and I'm eating 100 pancakes. Like, yeah, dude, eat 100 pancakes when you're already full and fat.
Starting point is 01:10:34 That's hard work. You know what I mean? Like, anyone could eat 100 pancakes with a six pack and then be like, back to the gym. A lot of people have a lot of opinions on his cheat meals. Yeah, that's my opinion I feel like fake. I think I think he embellishes them I don't think that like when he stacks up all those pancakes
Starting point is 01:10:50 I think he eats maybe a quarter of it It just like if you're in really good shape and you need a lot of food That's not hard You know what I mean? Cuz you're just gonna go back to the gym the next day and you're gonna take a big dump if you're already fat and you Feel like shit and you can only wear a sweatshirt and you're like, I'm still stuffing my face, that's hard work.
Starting point is 01:11:08 So you don't think his cheat meals are hard work enough and you think his cheat meals are fake? Oh, I think they're completely fake. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so I guess we got tape. So his cheat meals, I don't, here's why I don't think they're fake. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Because I think it's a feast or famine situation where if you diet and train like a lunatic, you will eat all 100 of those pancakes Until you're in pain Laying on the floor which to answer yours. Maybe it is hard work. No, it's not maybe these cheat meals aren't such a negative I don't know. I've never I've never seen a meat I think 100 pounds over my head up back on my grind with big cat saying is that it's stolen Valor right to eat a big
Starting point is 01:11:44 Meal like that and to act like you're a fat guy and then to not have to suffer the consequences of eating like that all the time Like I was like his culture is not his I want to see the Rock eat a cheat meal when he's already full So that's what I do. I just I just for the record his cheat meals have been referred to as stolen Valor Yes, yes I agree with that take. Yes. But I'll go one step further and say, I don't think he actually eats everything. I think that the Rock did his first cheat meal, which was organic.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And it would not like in terms of organic food, but like it was from his own brain. Hey, I'll post my cheat meal. Yeah. Everybody was like, wow, the Rock, that's such a huge cheat meal. And then he was like, oh, shit, that did a lot of traction. So I have to find a different way to make my meal look bigger Yeah, yeah, what do you if you had to have a cheat meal just because we're now we're in it on this cheat meal thing What would you have well? It's all about how you photograph it So if you want to make something look bigger you got to get down from like a low angle
Starting point is 01:12:37 Yeah, and angle it up and have it really right in the camera. Yes, I've been trying I've been trying to get this There's a place in there's one in Brooklyn location called Crispy Pizza. Okay. And they're all over Instagram. That's mainly that. My algorithm is just ice cream and wrestling and pizza. Nice. That's where it's kind of, that's where it's circling at the moment. It's like big tits and cheeseburgers, but yeah. Yeah. Each their own. Cheeseburgers? Yeah. For whatever reason, I've been trying to get this pizza, but then finally I did a commercial shoot the other day and I could have eaten it and somebody brought it And I couldn't do it
Starting point is 01:13:08 Why not? I? I feel like i'm not to the finish line yet on the dieting But I it wouldn't have hurt either was the thing right? I have this dumb game I play with myself where I tell myself if you have that you lose everything Yeah, and that seems like a sick you should see a therapist. Yeah, it might be fucked up, man. No, but that's what makes you great. It's a, it's a sickness. But if you touch it, it's like you lose it all. Yeah. House gone. Yeah. You know, everything's gone. It's gone. So yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:35 You were talking about how you, you keep thinking next time you come out into the ring, they might boo me. Yeah. That's a thought that's in the back of your head. I would imagine that to stay in the good graces of your audience you you have to think of ways at times like What can I do to to keep them cheering for me? But then it's kind of a catch-22 where if you go too hard they can sense that yeah, and then they'll start to boo you So what how do you deal with that mentally? Well, I think it's you can't do the latter in a sense that you can't just do it to get the pop You can't just do it to hey, they'll like this. That'd be easy. I'm gonna wear a we're in Chicago's. I'm Chicago
Starting point is 01:14:12 I'm gonna wear a Bears jersey. You can't just go for what the low-hanging fruit It has to be an authentic thing and one of the big disagreements John Cena and I have had and we had this disagreement behind the scenes and we had this disagreement Right in front of the camera is he feels I'm not authentic enough or as authentic as he was. And I think at this point at, I'm pretty confident in who I am and not exactly. I feel like I got a proven proven track record, but the answer is you, you can't, you can't be a hack about it. And, and maybe it's that,
Starting point is 01:14:43 let some of them who don't like you, you can't get them all. They may not like you. When I was wrestling Kevin Owens, he has a great fan base, just great equity in general. Most people booed, but there are some, you hear a wild thing here every now and then, you just gotta let, you can't get them all.
Starting point is 01:14:59 You know what I'm saying? Have you ever seen the episode, this is such a random, deep, deep cut here. You ever seen the episode of Parks and Rec with Leslie Knope running for office. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's when she's trying to get the guy and she's bowling with him Yeah, that's the kiss of death if you're a babyface in our business that dude's not voting for you, right? You got to move on. All right, you got to move on. That's a point. Yeah, that's a good point So I have a question about your dad and growing up like I grew up loving wrestling
Starting point is 01:15:25 But obviously I I was removed from it Was it ever like when you're growing up and you're watching it was it ever different for you? Experiencing it and then knowing like oh, that's my dad out there And he could get hurt and like that whole feeling of like I can't love it like a fan can love it in the same way The way my dad raised me in the business which will not be the way I raised my daughter, was incorrect. And he never really gave me any insight. So I had to figure out very early on that he has a relationship with Rick Flair. That's not just Rick Flair breaking his arm in the parking lot. I had to figure it out early on and I never really did.
Starting point is 01:16:06 Interesting. If that makes any sense. So like if Ric Flair showed up to your house when you were like 10 years old, you'd be like, it's on site. So even if I can't win the fight, I would be willing to fight. Yeah, like this guy is really mean to my dad. It's exactly. And the way my dad was, he might complain about something that happened on screen. He also might complain about something off screen and they all blend together. Here's what I've learned in my position on the top at WWE and
Starting point is 01:16:33 with other top WWE stars that I've worked with. It might as well be the UFC. When you get in this rare space, it's as real as it can possibly get in ways you wouldn't expect. Right. And that's almost terrifying. But that's why again, growing up the son of Dusty Rhodes, I just was his biggest fan. And I everyone anyone across from him, just I wasn't having it. Right. I wasn't having it. And I I've told this story before, but it's the greatest example of there's the toughest guy in the industry ever was a guy named Haku
Starting point is 01:17:06 If you hear any of these big fish stories about him taking a man's eye out or smashing the McDonald's, you know Drive-through window throwing a body press lamp. They're all real the real stories took a man's eye took a man's eye I took a cop's eye out. This is a real story. You can look it up, but me Haku He slammed a chair, my dad slammed a chair over his head and he was so tough that he didn't sell it. And then he choked my dad out, my dad was bleeding and all this and I'll never forget it.
Starting point is 01:17:33 I was maybe 10 at the time, I probably should have had some. I'm backstage, I should probably know a little bit about what's going on. I remember I'm sitting there next to my dad and he's bleeding and he's got his knees all wrapped up and Haku walked in and I stood up. This is a and he's bleeding and he's got his knees all wrapped up and haku walked in I stood up this is a man who's taking another man's eye out
Starting point is 01:17:49 and my dad just like Shove me back down on the chair right next to him in a way like no and I came over and he was the sweetest human Being ever oh dusty. Thank you legend. He helped him unwrap his knees He kissed him on the forehead. And he left. And I remember thinking, just so shocked. Instead of knowing, instead of, oh, knowing the performance, my dad just looked at me and he said, oh, there's different rules back here.
Starting point is 01:18:18 We can't fight back here. And I bought it. I thought, yeah, okay, that makes sense. That's incredible. That's fair, yeah. But it was, to me, there's that famous clip of the guy standing up saying it's still real to me. Yeah. That's just me.
Starting point is 01:18:29 I'm just saying it in a more sophisticated fashion. Did you ever have a rebellious teenage years where it's like your dad caught you putting on a butterfly robe and you're like, what the fuck? You can't do this. He likes Ric Flair now? I never had a, I was never rebellious against him. Right. But there were certain wrestlers that I would like that I could tell he's like So he had explained to me I liked Hulk Hogan as a kid and he had explained to me that Hulk Hogan and again
Starting point is 01:18:57 I thought this was my dad talking but he had explained me Hulk Hogan stole and In the proper way stole he was inspired by dusty He was inspired by superstar and I he was inspired by Superstar. And I just thought that's a dad talking. Years later, Hogan tells me, oh, I used to watch your dad and the Tampa Armory, I took everything from him. Yeah, holy shit. Oh my gosh, Shawn Michaels, we were just talking about him
Starting point is 01:19:18 on my bus too, I was watching one of his matches. I thought Shawn Michaels was the coolest thing ever. I don't think my dad wanted his son at the time to like the guy with chaps and hoop earrings and long hair, but I was in. I was in on it. So he used me, I feel like, as a test. I'd watch and I'd tell him who I liked,
Starting point is 01:19:38 and I could tell. He would never try to sell me against my own joy about things, but I could tell there were certain ones he thought like, what the? I raised them better than this. You know why? Why this guy? But that's how he,
Starting point is 01:19:49 I think that's how he kept young in the business. Yeah, he's a great focuser. Exactly, he knew like, no, no, that's the guy for this generation. Were you Stone Cold or The Rock? Oh. Important question. So, I was,
Starting point is 01:20:04 in the moment, I was Stone Cold. Okay. And in the moment, I was in the moment I was Stone-cold okay, and in the moment I was stone-cold because stunning Steve Austin Yes, WCW was on occasion my babysitter. Oh on occasion That's pretty bad at Center stage in Atlanta And he was the nicest guy about it ever because he didn't really Do a lot of babysitting as much as he'd sit me in the locker room and be like hey you want a soda Yeah, Yeah sure Steve All right stay here though. Don't go anywhere my match is next and then I'll be back
Starting point is 01:20:28 It was really basic just keep an eye cuz my dad was running the show at the time So when he was showing up in WWE and became the man was and had this I thought that's that's Steve That's my baby. That's my guy. Yeah, so yeah I was I was with Steve early early on and then you know I I feel like I love the Rock like everybody else did as well. Yeah, he was so different and so unique They they really were great partners together that you just basically described like 12 year old me's dream Stone Cold Steve Austin's my babysitter Yeah
Starting point is 01:20:58 He was and and I had a lot of at center stage in Atlanta for WCW at the Omni and all the local UTC Chattanooga in Atlanta for WCW, at the Omni, at all the local UTC, Chattanooga, all these local WCW shows. He'd always get me somebody to watch me, but Steve I felt like was one of the only ones that really took it serious. I love that. I remember Sherri Martel one time was watching me,
Starting point is 01:21:16 she was not watching me. Ricky Steamboat stitched my eye up one time because I fell down the steps and busted my eye, he didn't want my dad to know about it, but how is he not gonna know about it when I have stitches and a black eye? Yeah, I had a I had a fun group Harley Race That's incredible just whittling a stick with a pocket knife and the scariest man I've ever seen in my life
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Starting point is 01:22:38 on Uber Eats, and don't forget to try Subway's new Dorito footlong nachos, topped with Subway's fresh ingredients for a limited time only. And now, back to Cody Rhodes. What about like a rebellious phase where you thought that you weren't going to be a wrestler? Where you were like, maybe I'll be an accountant.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Never an accountant, but I got a little worried when I was 18, because when I was 18, I had a great amateur wrestling, folk style, freestyle wrestling career, and I was always wanting to be a wrestler. That was it. I didn't want to go to college. The plan was pro wrestling, but I thought I was going to be six five like my brother. My brother is six five. We had the same foot. You know, I thought like I'm getting there.
Starting point is 01:23:20 Still not there guys. So that was a concern for me. I went to L.A. Howard finds acting studio out there and I thought hey, maybe I can tell stories in a different way Maybe wrestling pro wrestling those guys seem so big not to realize that I'm pretty Normal size right in our game now But it took me it took me a little while of realizing this is not for me acting I didn't go on a single meeting. I had a great coach and I really enjoyed it, but wrestling is where I wanted to tell stories first Yeah, you're back in acting you're gonna be the new naked gun right? Yeah a little cameo. That's pretty love that I had a little cameo. I feel a little weird cuz they keep promoting me
Starting point is 01:23:57 You know what I'm happy that they're promoting me. It's pretty cool, but I got to do a scene with Liam Neeson That's awesome. That's legend that well That's it and there's so many different things you could say like Liam Neeson this movie Liam Neeson this movie I'm a die-hard Star Wars fan. So this is Qui-Gon Jinn man. This is Sleem nice. Yeah, you know like it's a it's a yes. Yeah, no matter what he was the cool He was the coolest guy he was in in The way he was doing every scene he'd take it a little differently It was just cool to chop up with and learn from him just in that moment. That was very fun
Starting point is 01:24:27 Yeah, I just saw the trailer a second ago And it's I I can't remember the last time I laughed out loud at a trailer nice this one did it I'm in on this movie full lol full lol when they showed the picture of oj. That's what did it. Oh wow Wait so now that you've been the champion for a year and your story Some may say you know it was completed. Yeah, are you worried at all? Like hey, what's next? Like oh But sure I had that piece of pizza, bro. I could be sitting here peaked Yeah, and not know it I could have said that it's a pretty good peak though It's a great peak
Starting point is 01:24:56 But it also is very it's got to be a little bit scary to be like what sure what is next because this you had such A great story arc to this point. I'm sure you'll find a way to tell more stories, but I've got it's a reinvention almost again I think it's a especially with John who was my legitimate mentor I drove him around for two years and learned everything I possibly could from him and not have the situation where it's me versus John Cena In the WrestleMania main event is a wild teacher student moment for me. But you have to win in those moments, otherwise the master was always the master, right? For me, so much was done for me.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I certainly have worked very hard and I have a great team around me and I try to work harder than anyone in the locker room. However, so many people at WWE have done so much for me that I feel like I have to keep going. You know, it's, it's crazy to me that my dad never got one WrestleMania main event and now this is fourth for me and the third headline match going on last. It's like a drug though. I just got to find a way to, to get, to get to another one.
Starting point is 01:26:01 And the only way you can do that is beat John Cena. That's why I can't have that pizza. Yeah. You can't have that pizza. Yeah, how do we feel about John Cena now? How should we feel about John Cena or where you from originally originally from? I don't know why that to turn the geos John Cena right outside DC. He's a recurring guest on this show. Yeah Yeah, he's been on twice second time didn't go so well. I am John is a So polar opposites I feel like in terms of when he was teaching me because he genuinely was I'd get in the car with Him he'd get on the phone. Hey, how'd we do at the merch stand? He'd get every number breakdown
Starting point is 01:26:33 He'd then call his boss at the time which was Vince he'd talk about the show He just he was so committed and so locked in and I watched all that and I stole he even said it to me this Past Monday you stole all of the pull the playbookbook you stole the playbook and you're using it wrong. I don't know what that means You use it how you use it. I Feel like fans if they have a love for John Cena if he's their hero if you want to see him break the record I would not discourage that kind of like we were talking about my dad never tried to rob me of my joy To some people he's still John Cena You know picking up big show showing edge and doing these amazing feats of strength and to other people Especially the younger audience that's now seen John in the last month or so
Starting point is 01:27:15 he's kind of a dick and I'm good wherever you sit on the fence with that. But when you come to WrestleMania 41, it's you sit on the fence with that but when you come to WrestleMania 41 it's you're you're watching the end of John Cena yeah so you can enjoy it as his fan or you can enjoy it as someone who's not his fan kind of a dick I like I would agree sorry I feel like no that was good that got that got me right there yeah we're here to watch the end of John Cena that's it you're gonna do it showing our hands my biggest ops funeral Yeah, I'm gonna be so happy. Yeah, you should whisper in his ear while you're wrestling like the part might take guys say hello
Starting point is 01:27:52 He probably won't remember us at all But I don't know he's got a pretty good memory then he then that would piss him off He's got a pretty good man. I would piss him off if you said it You can see that he went in on me on Monday in London and it just felt so deep. Yeah. So deep to the point where you know I think I might have had the penis joke as a follow-up which I was I was good with that. Yeah. That's good. We're here to have fun guys. Yeah. We're here to have fun. But also I walked away from that thinking he's been thinking about this for a while. Yeah. If I'm meant to be his successor, it's he handing it over. Yeah, yeah. All right, so you gotta tell him, be like, you remember the time you went on
Starting point is 01:28:29 the number one sports podcast with purple gloves and you couldn't take a joke? Maybe hit him with that. You want me to hit him with that? Yeah, hit him with that. Do you wanna know how dumb certain people think I am, by the way? They must have told me that you guys
Starting point is 01:28:41 are the number one sports podcast. They're laughing because I told them to stop. Because I said they say, hey, do you do you want to come on part of my take? Yes. It was a yes. Yeah, we were a yes. Let's go. And they were still, you know, it's the number one. What part of me? Yes. What part of me indicated to you I wasn't interested? Yeah. They are. That's an old school sell at WWE.
Starting point is 01:29:05 It's you guys are factually the number one sports podcast. Way back in the day, WWE like, hey, it's a great opportunity. You could really, that was always, I don't need that. Yeah, it's real, just let it be, yeah. All right, so just tell them that the pardon my take guys like me more than you, because that's a fact. You're a better guest than him.
Starting point is 01:29:22 Yeah. That you are a better guest than John Cena. I'll tell him right now. Yeah. Where's he at? Yeah, John Cena in John Cena I'll tell him right now where's he at yeah John Cena John Cena the pardon my take guys like me way more way than they like you and I am a better guess it's not even close and our fan base likes you way more now than him because again it didn't go well the last time we had him on there it is good job by your team though I think they sometimes teams
Starting point is 01:29:41 remind people of that because when they sit down here they're like they forget that yeah and they're talking to here, they're like they forget that Yeah, they're talking to us and they're just like how how are these guys number one? Yeah, because we're looking at we actually cleaned up today for you. We actually Your net your neighbors didn't clean up. Yeah, yeah brandon walker and the rat the wrestling game Yeah, there's a big chewy box on the floor and yeah dog. Yeah, that's for brand. What a tease Yeah, no the guys came in and cleaned up. Yeah,, they cleaned up It looks really clean in here. It looks great. Yeah, I have maybe a dumb question for you about the signs that you see at wrestling events Yes, they're always really funny. I feel like for the most part people are creative when they bring their signs in
Starting point is 01:30:15 Yeah, that's all I look at when I'm watching wrestling a good sign a good sign. Yeah, I try to find the best sign Do you spend any time at all reading the signs in the audience? So there's a particular moment where It's been heavily complained about by some of my peers But there's a lot of pyro for my entrance And there's there's a third one that may be a little indulgent Where I'll go up on the buckle and they all yell whoa in my song When I get up on the buckle before I go in the ring I try and look out and see as many signs as I can because a lot of times it might just be a little kiddo
Starting point is 01:30:43 With an American nightmare sign. I want them to know I see it. And that's also a good way for me to remind myself, I'm doing this, we're doing this together. This performance, this competition is not just here in the squared circle, we're all involved. So I like to do it there. In terms of funny signs, I saw one that had a picture of me side by side saying that I look like Randall from Monsters, Inc
Starting point is 01:31:08 and For a moment my heart was broken But then I kind of looked at the way my posture is and I'm a little Randall your little ray I'm a little Randall the you know what I'm good with that. It's a compliment. Yeah, right. Yeah, I was okay with it Wait, so you're saying other guys have big-time pyro envy of you Are they mad the pyros hard to get and you have all of it pyros hard to get are you hogging the pyro? If you were to look at a like a line by line. Yeah sheet Are you are you a pyro hog? Yeah, I am a pyro. Okay, but also I don't so
Starting point is 01:31:42 Triple H runs the show right? I'm his guy. Yeah, I don't want to blow that. Yeah might have just blown it but That's who picks out the pyro So Kevin Owens is the one who's gone on a rant lately as to why? He doesn't have any pyro and I feel like we could probably spare some pyro for ko Yeah, you know like you should just hand him yeah like a little like a sparkler or something Yeah, buddy. Well. There's a whole argument for maybe he doesn't need it. Yeah, you know Steve Austin never needed pyro I'm not gonna lie. I don't mind the whole give me all the bells and whistles some guys are just
Starting point is 01:32:15 Right there in your face, and they didn't need it But I don't mind blowing the sky up when I come out there it wakes him up. Yeah exciting moment Yeah, so you think like every other guy sees your pyro, and they're like that is a firework that could have been used on me Yeah, like every single time that one was too much. I could have had that one I heard a guy literally as I was walking out and the first one burst tell the rest of the boys that were in the gorilla Position which is the behind-the-scenes position there goes your Christmas bonus guys Hey, we don't get Christmas bonuses. It's not how the pay works.
Starting point is 01:32:49 And we're not taking money from the talent pool for the pyro. But I love this, because this is kind of what you're talking about how, listen, we understand what wrestling is, but there is a real factor to it, the competition behind that is so real that that makes it awesome. That's why, so when like the F word, when people say fake, I always, I never get hot. Some wrestlers get real like hot under the collar
Starting point is 01:33:11 and they talking about injuries and things of that nature. The reason I never say it is because the competition at the top is as real as anything I've ever done in my life. Right. So I can't, and then the feeling you see a kid and his dad or a whole family together and they come to show their feeling is as real as anything ever
Starting point is 01:33:28 too. So it's a it's a real crazy world. I love that Cody was the pyro hog. So speaking of entrances, you've wrestled Undertaker. Did you ever like this is the longest entrance ever. So I didn't have that reaction to undertaker. Okay. I had that reaction to Romans. Okay. But then I found out mine clocks in a little longer. Really? And I thought, okay, fair. Um, I'll tell you a cool undertaker story from last year. Cause I, I believe the undertaker might be shoot magical. Okay.
Starting point is 01:34:01 Um, well explain that. Well, so I think there's real magic there. Okay, and here's where here's where I saw at WrestleMania 40 Undertaker is gonna come in. He's gonna choke slam the rock. This is gonna happen He's gonna help me in my situation Because there's 50 members of the bloodline and I didn't have any anybody with me So the gong hits and then he appears places their mind and it's just a really the energy you can feel and I'm kind of laying there half Beat to death but one of my eyes was open He chokes him the rock and he looks at me and it never was on camera because he just looked back at me I think he was looking at a moment with me
Starting point is 01:34:34 I blew it basically because I'm just laying there half Dead and he literally just looked at me and went and winked and then the lights went out And I thought That, that happened. The Undertaker. I feel bad, I texted him at, I wanna say five in the morning his time the other day, on accident because I was in Europe and we just did this big thing with Clash of Clans and Supercell and he's one of the skins you can get.
Starting point is 01:35:02 I just needed him to know how good the game was. I don't know if he was interested. Yeah I thought it was really cool. That is cool. Yeah takers the best he is he is the best you gotta get him on your show We had him on you had take on big UT guy. Yeah, Texas guy. Yeah, he's he's the man I mean undertaker and Kane that storyline I Know offense to any of your stories. I think that's the peak of brothers fighting each other Just like I thought they were yeah Well, I mean brothers the fire and everything and you know lightning bolt on one another and they did some wild stuff
Starting point is 01:35:34 Yeah, kid being revealed. Yeah. Yeah, that was that hell in the cell is all together one of the greater pieces of business The match is amazing Shawn Michaels is, and then they reveal of Kane. I had to watch, remember in pay-per-view if you didn't order it, or if it got screwed up. I waited too late, so I had to watch it in the fuzz. And just hear JR, like, that's gotta be Kane. Yeah. The best.
Starting point is 01:35:57 How often are you actually surprised in the ring? How often does the production pull something on you that you don't know is coming? I honestly like to be surprised every week. Oh, yeah I like to be very disciplined organized know what I plan to do and be polished and prepared But I'll say this working with Sina. I've been surprised every week That's that's not gonna be I Don't want to say it's difficult. I want to say it's challenging
Starting point is 01:36:22 Mm-hmm if you again if you're meant to be my successor show me yeah, and just such he's All right, but production wise they're pretty on about No Nothing wild yeah with me at least it's a really good really good team at WWE They can make stuff look quite amazing. Yeah, what do wrestlers do for fun? What do you do for fun outside of wrestling? You don't eat pizza. I want it though He won a crispy pizza man. You don't eat it I want you to get like an assistant who just eats all your pizza for you. I'll do that I'm gonna be honest just go around with you and have that already
Starting point is 01:36:56 Oh you do okay brothers on the bus right now ordering an ice cream cake. There you go This is like that is the scene from dodgeball where guy LaFleur He's sitting in the office and he's just looking at pizza and shocking himself. Yeah, so he won't eat it Yeah, that's that's not unhealthy in any way right? Yeah, but what do you do for fun? Well my daughter she's almost four so that is the journey yeah, just a that's the greatest thing ever is just Hearing about what's going on in her life and the trials and tribulations of superkitties Yeah, she's just oh my gosh and she saw Snow White the other day all kinds of opinions on that
Starting point is 01:37:34 Just just that to me I never thought I was gonna have children and me and my wife that wasn't part of our plan and then this has been oh My gosh, we why weren't we doing this all along? I know it's just been the greatest thing other than that other than hanging out with Liberty I Would say I go to top golf a lot. Oh, yes I'm a slugger at top golf. Okay, I feel like a real golfer. Yeah Yeah, and I try to dress the part and everything, but I'm not a golfer. Yeah, I'm just got I'm a good little dress up like Yeah, I'm a good little top golfer. I like golf's very fun. So you smash it you step up. Oh, yeah driver
Starting point is 01:38:11 Oh, yeah, just and if somebody sets it where they're playing Angry Birds, they're effing up the whole flow Yeah, cuz that's not when that's not skill base. Yeah. Yeah, it's not top goal. Thank you It's not wait, you actually golf on a golf course. No. No, this is just I I just go to top golf. I'm just, I'm just cranking. That's what I'm saying. I want to look the part. Yeah. And I would be ready. You know, you start talking to, again, I mentioned kind of being in an office position. I'm always ready. Somebody asked me to go golfing. Yeah. I'm, I'm going to fake it till I make it. Yeah. I'm going to go out there and do my best. Yeah. You bring your own clubs to top golf? No, not yet. I haven't got there yet. That's a bold move, huh?
Starting point is 01:38:46 Buy your own set just for Topgolf. Gosh, that sounds great though. Custom clubs too. Be like a pool shark. Show up and you're like, oh I got this one. You remember that unbelievable Fresh Prince episode where he... Uncle Phil and the Hustler? Yes. It's a regular... this is a weird thing. You watch weird stuff when you're on the treadmill.
Starting point is 01:39:06 Weird things motivate you. Something about that scene makes me wanna run through a brick wall. What is his name is Pulque? Oh, it's got a female name. He asked for it from Jeffrey. Is it Lucille? Yeah, I think it's Lucille.
Starting point is 01:39:16 Is it Lucille? Like, Jeffrey, fetch me Lucille. Lucille, yeah. And then he's just so nasty with it. He's just running it up on him. Oh man. And he's smooth. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:24 Yeah, he's got that big guy smooth man They don't make TV like that anymore. No, they don't they don't I wish All right. Well, this has been awesome. I got one last question for you. It's a row back question Rho B a C k.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase qzips polos hoodies joggers shorts and we're in the sweatshirt right now row back comm promo code take Okay, so we talked about your future in wrestling. Are you acting? Are we going to be, I know that you're in the new movie, but are you, are we going to be like lead man Cody Rhodes?
Starting point is 01:39:54 I'd love to get out there. There's some fun projects coming up. I'd love to get out there and tell stories that way for sure. And grow. I love pro wrestling. I'll always like I found with with the Rock it's here right he's a wrestler but to get out there and I love what Rock has done I love what John has done and Dave Bautista as well all of them have gone different routes when approaching Hollywood and I think I might be next to join the fray okay with all that and we're gonna and we're gonna beat John Cena on April 20th, right? Yeah
Starting point is 01:40:26 You got to his last WrestleMania's whisper promise or something. Can you can you just make him feel pain? Yeah, put it in pain Tell him this is an actually my take. It's actually pretty painful. But yeah extra pain extra pain for pardon my day This is for pardon my take dial it up to 11. Yeah, it'll PMT pain right here. Yeah Yeah, one extra, you know, yeah, yeah, he'll actually he might get scared. He might be like, oh my god He'll kill me sneak one in, you know Yeah Alright, well Cody this has been awesome, man. We really appreciate you coming by Thank you a lot of fun talking to you and good luck April 19th April 20th in Vegas. Be careful in Vegas
Starting point is 01:41:03 Can you go out after can Can you, can you like enjoy yourself? So I've been to Vegas a bunch of times. We were talking about the story earlier. I went from wrestling in Sam's town, which is a local casino, which is a great, the killer's album is named after it to Allegiant Stadium. I am Vegas out. Yeah. So I'm do it to you. Yeah. I'm, I'm more worried worried about some of my peers Okay, I need them to make it there Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, okay. Do you have a fanny pack? I always love wrestling like night wrestlers. You always had fanny pack I assume that was I tried red shirt tuck fanny pack and dip I tried to be a chewer
Starting point is 01:41:38 I threw up on the side of the ring at OVW and CM Punk had to watch me and like basically why I threw up in A trash can so that didn't work for me Okay, and the fanny pack I didn't have enough stuff. Ah Wrestlers always have there's like everything in there. It's a bottomless bag. What about more pyro? I could always get more if you just have more pyro in your face Like when when the next time someone complains they're like god, he's taking all the pyro be like, hey buddy. Look at this That's a great idea yeah, yeah, you thought I took all the pyro be like hey buddy look at this here's some black cat yeah that's a great idea yeah yeah yeah y'all you thought I took all the pyro look at this
Starting point is 01:42:08 yeah I had a little leftover bro they didn't know what to do with it so I took it all right well Cody best of luck thank you stay champ yeah thank you thanks man thanks guys Cody Rhodes is brought to you by No Bull. If you're going to workout, you've got to try out No Bull footwear. They're the best shoes, most comfortable for both in the gym and on the go. With options across training and lifestyle, No Bull has options for everyone. I'm rocking my No Bulls right now.
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Starting point is 01:43:45 forthepeople.com slash PMT that's forthepeople.com slash PMT. Okay, Fire Fest of the week. Let's get it going. Henry. I don't think Henry has any Fire Fest because he's been you've been in such a great mood this week that it seems like you're Really running on full cylinders. Yeah, actually you know what let's let's let's go with a different order this week Max do you have a fire fest? I don't do fire fest. I let's do one this week. Do you have a fire fest max? I don't do fire fest okay. You got you got fooled by America's top actor Yeah, yeah, and I hope this is the last we talk about it I think that's the real takeaway is Jerry O'Connell's back. Yeah, the acting chops still got it. We're victims as well
Starting point is 01:44:31 True. We were just we were victimized just like you max. I think me and big cat are actually the biggest victims. Yeah disagree Okay, do you how did the 24 hours you said your mom called and made funny? Yeah, my mom called made funny me How any other reactions from from people close to you? Yeah, I got reactions from a ton of people. Yeah. I mean, you had the cro- Listen, did it suck for you? Yeah. Are you a moron?
Starting point is 01:45:00 Yeah. I will say, I got a lot of were who would text me as they were listening being like, holy shit, you're going to the White House and then being like, oh fuck. Oh, they fell for it. Yeah. But this was one of those moments that crossed over where like my friends in real life were like, holy shit, Max is such an idiot. And I was like, yeah, man, he's really dumb for that. But you, you you you put a smile on a ton of people's faces on Wednesday. That's a fact Yeah, I'm happy for those people How Hank was one of them? How is your beef with Hank going? I?
Starting point is 01:45:37 Wish I thought of the pizza draft thing in real time that yeah that that was a miss by me No, it was the first thing. This is this was gonna be my fire first, but I what was the first thing I said to you on on Wednesday No idea I apologize I listen back I said I said I said I was gonna listen back to make sure nothing was cut And I remember laughing as hard as I did I was like this was really funny And then as I listened back I was listening to myself, and I was like You know chill out Hank like you're being an asshole I sounded like an asshole I felt bad even though it did get the reaction that was funny but I felt like I was from I didn't think I
Starting point is 01:46:13 was as mean as I sounded when I listened back and I was like no dude you sound like an asshole so I my fire fest is I was mean and I apologize yeah also Hank's fire fest is reminding you that he does listen to the show Yeah, that was a good way of putting that Hank and he wants credit for the apology. Yes Well, that was gonna be my firebuses like no he just one one to listen back because he's a sicko and he was like Max Sounded like an idiot. Let me go back and realize that moment of Mac guess I was like cuz you were like we're gonna cut this I was like I'll make sure he doesn't you knew I wasn't gonna Cut it and I'll I listen back twice. Yeah
Starting point is 01:46:47 That had nothing to do with seeing if I was gonna cut it you just know of that moment one of the live through It again. Oh, yes I was laying in bed on Tuesday night and I saw the podcast dropped and I made my wife listen Oh, you gotta hear that. Yeah, well, it was it was worth it, but yeah, I also my girlfriend listens to nothing She didn't listen after the Eagles won the Super Bowl. She was like. Oh, I gotta listen to this I was like that What everyone just likes to listen likes to see me at my low points, and that's how I felt bad I was you don't don't say that you hear a good guy
Starting point is 01:47:22 Why are you being such an asshole? I can tell you wasn't like when I was like dumb. You're so dumb You're so dumb. It's like that was mean. Yeah, it's been eating Hank up inside. Oh, yeah He says guilty conscious no Hank's never had any moments like that where he falls for a prank I wouldn't get that upset if I did fall. Oh Say here's the good news Max as long as you get over this prank, I would say within two years, you'll have gotten over faster than Hank did with the pizza Mount Rushmore. Hank was mad about it for legitimately two full years. You know why Hank's been in such a good mood recently? Because this is as far away from
Starting point is 01:47:58 Mount Rushmore season as we can possibly get. Once we get back into Mount Rushmore season, he just becomes pissed off all the time. That's true.. I mean different circumstances, but I still, you know, double olives. You know what? I was actually looking back at the Mount Rushmore pizza toppings. This is how I know that I'm getting a little bit old. The combination of ham, green olives, black olives and mushrooms. Like that actually sounds like a pretty good time. I think we did it another time. Billy and Jake saying oregano with oregano, with their number two overall pick. And then I did the whole, Oh, I thought you took sausage. How to get back to Hank. Oh my God. Hank had everything. I, do we also do it with appetizers? Cause someone sent me a graphic of our appetizers. Yeah. And
Starting point is 01:48:40 it was like, we had the worst picks ever that looked intentional No, I think what we did on that if memory serves Hank had an all-time bad draft of the worst appetizer Oh, yeah, we put all the good ones. And so we tried to give that back. I won that. Yeah. Yeah Mari's trash No, Cal Mari's good. Um No, but I can tell that you're really you're beating yourself up over being mean to max and I appreciate that for me Yeah, yeah, really nice of you. Well. I do sometimes I do get people a decent body even even like I think my mom is asking just like are you Mac like I'm like yeah me max are tight like We're boys like really cuz it doesn't sound like that I know I like that's my favorite question when people come up to me and be like you and Mac you and Hank actually hate
Starting point is 01:49:21 each other but listening to this yeah and be like you and Hank actually hate each other. But listening to the podcast, I completely get it. Because it was very intense, and I got your voice to screech. Oh, man. My voice screeches. But again, do we have a way of, like, when you're going back and listening to the podcast and when Pug is editing it, certainly you're letting Pug edit in peace, right hmm I got mad at pug for doing what you
Starting point is 01:49:48 threatened him with violence did you I don't think that I threatened him with violence I don't remember threatening him with violence he did we have a clip too yeah we don't have a real clip he did a clip max doesn't saying it's very Italian he when he gets really really mad. He goes like this He raises his hand like this like he's gonna backhand well no, but that's like I that's me just speaking with my hands That's when he adds a period yeah, yeah, he chopped crack crack so memes What did he say to pug so pug was editing the podcast? It was his first time listening to it and out loud pug just goes. I can't believe you fell for this No, that's not that's not what he said
Starting point is 01:50:25 What he said, that's not what he said memes talking. Well, he just did it wrong I'm talking he let me present his case, but he answered then you can object here. It was close here It was close. He was like he genuinely asked the question which made it even worse He was like you didn't actually believe this right? Oh, and I was it was when I was the most heated about that's what memes just said and he said no no no because the way that memes portrayed that was he was mocking me but he wasn't mocking me he was genuinely asking the question not not which made it which made it mean even more angry and then when I told him to shut up he just kept asking being like no like you said it like this is all, he, he, he was like, this is all a joke.
Starting point is 01:51:07 Like you're trying to have your back kind of, but it, but it made me more angry because he couldn't possibly possibly fathom is it surely after he said Hamas, you knew it was yeah. No liberal judge. Reagan, you, I, nothing more from Hank,. No, no, no. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges.
Starting point is 01:51:28 No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges.
Starting point is 01:51:36 No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges.
Starting point is 01:51:44 No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. No liberal judges. Definitely pick a Reagan on his favorite topic to be fair to Hank or to be fair to max he pft Is terrible taste he probably thought that that Jerry said no hummus and max was like not a problem. Yeah I would never never an issue never. Ah, yeah, so I had to I had to I came in on Wednesday morning So I think there's a lot of this is in PM TV go watch it I came in Wednesday morning and I said hello to the boys and they're like, did you hear Max threatened Pug with violence? So I had to call Max. I had to lay down the law. There's no threatening of violence to Pug. Everyone in this room can threaten violence to each other.
Starting point is 01:52:17 That's a totally fair thing. I think that's a good, healthy working relationship. If every now and then we're like, I want to beat your ass, but pug he's too precious. We cannot touch pug. So max agreed. No more threatening violence towards pug. Fair. But pug also was fair. I was like, did he threaten you? He's like kind of, and I was like, how'd that make you feel? He's like, well, he is my boss. I was like, that's bad. Oh, no, I should have done that. Yeah. I was, but I I was I was mad. Yeah, you hate dogs. Yeah, I have a dog But credit to Hank for saying sorry to you
Starting point is 01:52:53 What no no credit Hank sounds like you weren't listening is done with me he's done I we were this was like maybe six hours later Well that that and me and Max cross paths in the bathroom and I saw him and I just like you know taps him on the shoulder like a good friend Oh, yeah Hank just looked at me for the rest of the day with that stupid little fucking Done with you and stormed out of the bathroom. Yeah, he was mad I tried to give him a hug he hates when I try to give him a high always every time I leave the office And the boys are still working I go up down
Starting point is 01:53:23 a lie It's usually pretty late because you're working like are you doing yeah yeah yeah that's a lot of playing golf good good guy cooking great job paying golf all right if a good friend even better co-worker mm-hmm that's what we say about Hank my fire fest of the week it's it's all Blake related this week so on Sunday took Blake to a dog training class because we're trying to work on some of his behavior issues. And at the start of the class, the trainer went around the room and she said, everybody here, please introduce yourselves. Start with the
Starting point is 01:53:57 pronouns. I thought she meant Blake, the dog. And I think he goes, I think he's he, him him is what I think that was an awkward moment for myself and then later on this week I picked him up from daycare wise was a matter What do you mean like? Why was it awkward cuz I cuz the dog I don't know she wasn't actually asking for the dogs pronouns She's asking for years. She's asking for God pronouns. God, but you're still he him. Yeah. But I, when I look at Blake, I'm like, I thought she was talking about introducing Blake. Did you introduce Blake?
Starting point is 01:54:32 Is he him? I started to God. And then I realized it halfway through and it was very awkward and very embarrassing for me. And then I picked him up from daycare on Tuesday and he wasn't putting any weight on his back, right leg. So I took him to the vetcare on Tuesday and he wasn't putting any weight on his back right leg. So I took him to the vet. He wouldn't let the vet touch him yesterday because he was like, I don't know, he was
Starting point is 01:54:50 like, don't fuck with my leg. So now I have to, I've got him doped up today. I gave him four pills this morning. I'm giving him four more this afternoon. Then I have to pick him up because he's going to be knocked out, put him in the car, take him to the vet. Hopefully they'll examine him. But now it's looking like Blake might be last summer is when he had the double. Yeah. And now he might
Starting point is 01:55:10 have an ACL. So I got to get I don't know, can we do blood spinning? We do H is there H get him to Germany, get him to fly Blake to Germany. Yeah, hopefully it's not the ACL. But yeah, he's we're looking at maybe another summer where shit Blake won't be able to go outside and play which is a bummer when you look at your dog. He just looks at you like I'm depressed. Yeah, I can tell that my dog is depressed. People are starting to ask Can he stay on the field? Yeah, there's
Starting point is 01:55:35 injury question makes a club in the top. You can't there's injury questions for Blake. He is this is Anthony Rendon. I signed Anthony Rendon to be my dog and I still love him but it's tough looking at your dog when he's just like this sucks dude. Yeah. Help me out. Yeah. Nothing you can do. Hopefully we get an answer today. Yeah. Hopefully it's not a torn ACL. That would suck. Yeah. Drive over in the Camaro. I don't own a Camaro. I mean you don't listen to the show. Oh wow. Doesn't listen again. The El Camino is also not starting But I figured out so normal. Yeah, a lot of people are asking questions about the El Camino Here's the thing. No one had high expectations with El Camino though
Starting point is 01:56:13 That was kind of like when you drafted the El Camino It was like he already has torn four ACLs and it'd be a shock if he can make it through a career So that one at least is like, oh, you know, no one blinks an eye right we're taking a shot yeah on a guy that that had injury concerns in college and it's high upside for it but I think I figured out what's going on and I'm fixing it up this weekend myself I'm gonna try to fix my car you're gonna make it worse I'm not gonna make it worse I'm gonna know better you can you make something worse that's good question Hank no mean Hank max you don't anything but it could physically blow up like it could just cease to exist that sounded
Starting point is 01:56:49 like a Italian threat yeah you're gonna have a bomb in my car yeah real shame of that happen if you if you try to turn it on PFT and it blows up I bet I bet you max that I get the car running by the end of this weekend with no help no help I get to use YouTube well it's probably don't take that back Max because it probably just doesn't have gas in it that's sure that's not true that's not true I just put two gallons in my garage in there and I filled it up on my way home from work and put 20 gallon or 20 bucks in there so I think I know what it is the battery is not hooked the battery
Starting point is 01:57:22 terminal had like a thing that was fucked up on it So I'm replacing the battery terminal like the the part that connects the wires to the battery this weekend And I got tools I bought $200 with the tools at Autozone By the way, you know, do you know that like the new cars? It's crazy what they've been able to do to fix some of the old car things where I left my car door open Overnight the other night. Uh, cause I was like getting my kids out of the car and I just forgot to close my door door. All the lights turned off on their own. It's crazy. It just knows. Cause usually that was, I remember
Starting point is 01:57:53 like back in the day you left the light on and your parents' car and they were just like, well, the battery's dead. Fuck you. Why would you do that? But like, and it was like the little light yeah now they they got it all figured out except it's all computer now so like it's way harder for you to fix it yeah there's something wrong with well i gotta take it in it was always hard for me to fix yeah i know me too i i went from like i have no car knowledge whatsoever now i feel like i'm i'm elementary school level where i'm i'm still like that guy from the meme where he stands in front of the server and just looks at it and hopes that he can figure
Starting point is 01:58:27 out what to do but I watched so many YouTube videos on how to replace a battery terminal and I got the most expensive said tools that actually here's here's what happened I hit up the guy that sold me the El Camino and I was like hey man another problem is like my third time calling him and he goes okay I think I know how you can take care of this. You're going to want to go to Lowe's, and you're going to want to buy a really expensive set of tools. And you're going to want to learn how to fix the car yourself. And then he hung up on me.
Starting point is 01:58:57 That's brutal. That's pretty bad. That was like the when I was when I was like 18 years old, and I went to a GNC and I was like, Hey, I'm looking for some type of pill or something powder to lose weight and gain muscle. And he's like, you're going to want to just grab, I think I've told this before. You wish you want to grab these big black plates and then you're going to want to lift it up and then you're going to want to lift it up again and do like, you know, sets of like 10 and then do that five times. Yeah, that's, that's exactly what this guy said to me, and I was like okay And then I paused for a second was like wait a second this guy's fucking with me, and he's like okay
Starting point is 01:59:30 I gotta run yeah Nothing worse so step one Accomplished I bought the tools step two. I'm gonna get this fucker started I'm gonna drive it if it's if it's nice outside. I'm driving it to work on something you can take that to the bank max I'm looking forward to it. Sunday you can take that to the bank max I'm looking forward to it I hope you do max my fire fest it's it's convo between you and I we got to talk it's we're getting a t-shirt whether do we have a plan because this is this is a I'm in trouble too like I've this is this happens every spring where the Twinks the twinks here, Hank and PFT, they get
Starting point is 02:00:06 a little nice weather and they put on shorts. They're like, I love this. I'm an otter. My the first nice day where it's like 70 degrees and you hold onto the sweatshirt and you're like, this is uncomfortable. And you realize I'm going to have to start wearing a t-shirt. It's the worst feeling in the world. Yeah. But you know what? I feel like swim shirts have become normalized for regular work No, I'm just saying like if you're thinking about going to the oh no No, I'm not talking about taking my shirt off once this shirt is off. It's all there. There's nothing you can do to hide it I'm talking about the feeling of being uncomfortable wearing a t-shirt outside which all
Starting point is 02:00:41 Bigger men do around April. It's like April happens and you're like, fuck, this sucks. I forgot that I couldn't just wear a sweatshirt for the entire year. You know what you should do. You should just become like a clean, white, quadruple XLT guy. Like a Kevin Federline? Yeah, like the ones that you can buy in gas stations.
Starting point is 02:01:00 That's a dated reference. Just become a giant t-shirt guy. Yeah. Max, should we become giant t-shirt guys I mean max and I have talked about this before the Instagram ads that try to sell us the t-shirts that make us look like Awesome, but they never work. No, nothing works. Nothing works. I just gotta get It's always like I'm just like 10 to 15 pounds sluice that I also gained a little weight from March Madness So that didn't help. Here's what you do giant t-shirt big ass Preferably and one basketball shorts that go down to like your shin and then walk around with a hand towel on your shoulder
Starting point is 02:01:32 That's a good look. That is good. Look like a Tarkinian Yeah, yeah Yeah, max. So you got no plans? You've been lifting. Yeah, I left, but I mean it's not enough. You went all the way to a different Planet Fitness location because we had to move. I've gone to two separate Planet Fitness locations this week. I was playing road games. So I'm trying.
Starting point is 02:01:56 Yeah, I did the... They were nice? I mean, we love Planet Fitness. Yeah, they were great. I did the thing where I started lifting again I think I've lifted four times in the last week and a half and then I tried to convince my wife That's why I've gained seven pounds in the last week. I was like, well, it's muscle Four times
Starting point is 02:02:19 It's the streaming the streaming just eat so much. March Madness is just sit around and eat. Yes. There's so much, so much recess. So much, oh my god. And then we got blizzards and they were just, oh. The thing is when you're staring at a screen, you just absentmindedly eat stuff. You just graze all day long.
Starting point is 02:02:38 Right. But that's the cycle of life. It's like every single year, I'm pretty sure that we go through the same phase. Correct. And it's like post normal spring break, it's our post March madness. And then we look at the clock and we've got, oh shit, we got two months to get in shape. But what happens every year is we get that one day that's like 70 degrees earlier in
Starting point is 02:02:57 the week. I mean, sorry, early in March and you're like, oh no, this, this t-shirt shit is going to be problem. But then you tell yourself, you convince yourself, oh, I this this t-shirt shit is gonna be problem, but then you tell yourself you convince yourself Oh, I still got like a couple months We're like a week away from it just being t-shirt all the time and we're gonna be so fucked So I don't know what we got we got to do something about it. We gotta do something about it I guess you gotta eat less. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta eat less. I gotta work out more. I gotta walk more
Starting point is 02:03:21 calories in calories out Here that one. Yeah, your little member when you got a trainer because you were trying to dunk and then you didn't dunk. I remember that. Yeah Yeah, oh you're gonna dunk. Yeah. Oh really? Yep. You're still training. Yeah, are you that's interesting? I'm still working out I'm not training for dunking, but I think I'm gonna like once September comes around I'm gonna start training for dunking again. Are you nervous at all for how much money I'm still getting stronger. Are you nervous at how much money you're going to owe me after the golf long drive? Definitely. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah, could be a lot. Yeah, a lot of cash cash. I've struggled with that because
Starting point is 02:03:58 if I out drive Hank by like 30 yards, am I actually going to be able to collect $30,000 from Hank? Yeah. Jack McCarthy owns owes me $19,000 right now, so yep, I'm gonna collect that Coming for that call your daddy Jackie Nova won their first crown game. Yeah But this also like Nardi this is also going out on Friday, so you don't know That would suck if they lost tonight. All I said was they won their first game. They did. They won their first game.
Starting point is 02:04:28 That's a fact. Yeah. Alright, numbers. Four. Whoa! Three. I'm getting it. One. Also, we gotta play more hoops. Yes, we do. 91. I'm thinking Monday afternoon hoops. Monday afternoon we do morning? Yeah. I like Monday. Yeah, Monday sounds great. I'll go 73 get in here pub quick Needs going to pull I'm gonna get 15 oh, you are I hope three hits so hard
Starting point is 02:05:12 93 I said 91. Shane what's up? You got a problem? You staring at it? Shane's looking at it all weird. Shane you got a problem? You got a problem Shane? You looking at it weird? Hey Pug do you feel safe at work? Pug do you feel safe at work? Do you feel safe at work? Me and do you feel safe at work? Do you feel safe at work? All right me and Max squash the beef so things are better now Yeah, but that's that's kind of like someone's got a gun to your head. You're like hey, I got no problem with him Like you could tell us like pretend Max isn't here Max are you worried about are you worried about it? If he gets that mad again, there's no telling what he could do. Yeah Small worry do you feel for your safety?
Starting point is 02:05:49 No one can get him that mad again I feel like we're gonna walk in one day and which it pugs you have like a black eye like pug what happens like oh No, I slipped or he'll be like I said some things. I shouldn't have said yeah down the stairs. It's fine. It's fine It's not max fault Pug we're here for you okay we could beat the fuck out of max all of us combined that's a fact we almost had to do that yeah yeah there should be a safety word actually you know what i'm gonna get you a taser pug in case he ever comes at you again you can tase him and if even if he like if he like steps to you a little threatening
Starting point is 02:06:22 tase his ass okay okay god damn would that clip be incredible pug if you're ever around max and he's making you feel unsafe like he might hurt you Let's think of a word we can say Maybe maybe meatball. Mm-hmm. I Like that, okay, people that might get him hungry though. Yeah, well that was distracting. Yeah, sure I want to go outside. Love you guys. So So so So so So
Starting point is 02:08:18 So So Thanks for watching!

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