Pardon My Take - DPOY TJ Watt, Super Bowl Clean Up & Guys On Chicks

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

We wrap up the Super Bowl and Football season with some more coherent thoughts about Sunday after sleeping a little bit. Hot Seat/Cool Throne including Coach K and Kyler Murray. Pittsburgh Steeler TJ Watt joins the show fresh off his Defensive Player Of The Year Award to talk about the season, Big Ben, the Uhhh Hey JJ Era, Big Cat almost killing him and more. We finish the show with guys on chicksYou can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Pardon my take presented by Barstool Sports. Welcome to part of my take presented by Cross Country Mortgage. Go right now, crosscountrymortgage.com slash barstool. Today is Wednesday, February 16th. Life after football has begun. Yeah, and to be honest with you, this is, these are the bleakest days of the year, in my opinion. You know what really twisted the knife?

And I don't care about baseball until baseball actually starts. Then I don't care about baseball until after the all-star break. But today was the day that pitchers and catchers were supposed to report. And today was the day that Tony Kornheiser was supposed to say, the beautiful cycle of sports continues as pitchers and catchers report. Hope springs eternal. Certainly for a big seam head like myself, still at the negotiating table.

We're still sitting in the trucks. We still got the truckers just sitting there. Yeah. Causing traffic. Rob Manfred's just got a bunch of, a bunch of sim eyes. Yeah. Outside every stadium just parked holding up traffic. Um, I, I actually, I obviously get a little sad when football ends,

but a part of me is like, okay, now like kind of readjust your life because there is a lot of football and I love college basketball. So the, the come down isn't as harsh for me. Um, but there is always that feeling like the Monday after the Super Bowl where you sit there and you debate the game and you talk about it and legacies and all this stuff and you're like, ah, this is, it's kind of last time we're going to do this for a few months. I'm just like, why, why am I, why am I getting up in the morning

when there's no football on TV anymore? But you know what, we'll get through it together. Yup. We'll find some ways to replace it. And actually for me, the next two weeks are going to be filled with sports because these are the two weeks where I do a crash course in college basketball. Okay. And I get really into college basketball again.

I just, I've found, you have to know yourself sometimes. And I know that I can't pay attention to football the way that I pay attention to it and college basketball at the same time. I know you are able to do it. I personally do not have the ability. This is to process all that during the fall, during like November, December. No, I don't care about college basketball unless it's like number one versus number two in a prime time game.

I can refresh you real quick. Give me, give me anything. No, no, I want to, I'm going to do this on my own. Okay. I do this every year. I get back into it. I've got my websites that I read. Gonzaga's good again.

I know Gonzaga, but I called them frauds yesterday. Just out of habit because they don't play in a real conference. Well, I'll give you one tip about Gonzaga and it will help you because it's going to be shocking when you, when you, when you watch them. They are very good again. They can definitely win the title. Chet Holmgren, the number one recruit is like the skinniest dude ever. And people get really mad because like if you watch them for the first time,

your reaction is going to be, I actually would like you to see you do this. It's like this guy's, this guy's going to be soft when he plays against real men. So then people are like, but his skills are so incredible. Yeah. He looks like he's going to be soft when he grinds up against a real guy. It's impossible to watch him once and not be like, oh, he's going to get eaten alive. But he is really fucking good. Okay.

Yeah. I actually kind of feel that way about Paulo Baquero. Yeah. Like he might be too soft to go up against a man. Yeah. We'll get into all college basketball. Um, let's do some super bowl cleanup. So I went to sleep at nine o'clock last night.

It felt great. I was so tired. How, how tired I was like it's, it's something I've never done before. I bet I had Cleveland state minus two against, uh, Indiana, uh, Purdue, uh, Fort Wayne. Right. Uh, I'm up three with five seconds left. I P F W, whatever the fuck hits a three to go to overtime. And I was just like, I, I can't do it.

It was, this was, this was at eight fifty five. Taped out for overtime. Taped out for overtime. I was like, I'll find out what I lost. I was like, I'll just figure it out in the morning. Just check the app. Yeah. I literally tapped out for over for a five minute college basketball overtime.

Yeah. That's how tired I was. I don't blame you. I was kind of feeling the same way yesterday. I went to go see House of Gucci in theaters. Highly recommended Lady Gaga. Excellent performance. Got snubbed at the Oscars.

I fell asleep like seven times during the movie. And as I was asleep, I was combining the storyline that I was hearing from House of Gucci with football stats from the Super Bowl. And I was waking up very confused. It was a combination of like football, uh, the plays that I remember from the Super Bowl running on repeat in my head and also, uh, blackjack hands that I had been dealt over the weekend at the casino. And I was combining that into the dialogue from House of Gucci.

And so I woke up and had no idea, like seven times during the movie, completely lost. I probably need to see it again. Yeah. But it was, it was the end of a long 12 day run where my brain had just become mush. And it's good to, to get out and do something to like cleanse it out a little bit, which is why I went to go see a movie, just get media, uh, like injected directly into my brain. Something a little different. Try to do a flush.

It has nothing to do with sports, but it didn't work. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I just looked it up. The game actually went to three over times. Okay. I was smart. You made the right choice. Yeah.

Absolutely. All right. Let's do some Super Bowl cleanup though. Now that we've had a day, uh, where do you want to start? I have a couple of what ifs. Okay. I have a couple, everyone just stopped talking about this, uh, maybe a couple of legacies. Well, one thing that I've learned from this Super Bowl and especially the aftermath is

I, it's a perfect example of how like misinformation is passed along, washed, rewashed until it just becomes accepted as truth. Yes. So the biggest case of this that I'm seeing everywhere is Aaron Donald was lined up off sides on that last play of the game, the fourth and one where he made that stop and the refs fucking blew it and the NFL is rigged. That was the, that was the first fourth and one of the game. Yes.

In the first quarter. Yes. As everybody should know, like that, that was a completely different offsides thing. He was offside. They're facing different ways. But now I've accepted it as truth because I've seen it pass along so many times online. So a lot of Aaron Donald was off sides on the last play of the game that fourth and one, and there should be a full investigation to Roger Dill who should be arrested and Jamar

Chase was open. I, I, I, the one that drives, that drives me insane because yes, he was open by the definition of like, Oh, he was eventually open, but there was never a point in time where Joe Burrow was standing there and Jamar Chase was open. Yeah. Like Jamar Chase got open well after Aaron Donald had already started ripping Joe Burrow down. So it's like, it's not like a situation where you're like, well, how did Joe Burrow miss

him? Or even people saying, well, if he had an extra second, well, yeah, if he had an extra second for every play, the Bengals probably would have won. Yeah. That's why this happened. A full extra second is a long fucking time. It gets Aaron Donald. It gets Aaron Donald.

It was exceptional. It was very funny to see people be like, yeah, he was wide open. That happens all the time. I feel like Jimmy Garoppolo is a quarterback that happens the most to they'll take a screenshot of a play. Yeah. He was wide open as like Jimmy's getting sacked. Yeah.

Like he eventually was open. Yes. But if you freeze it right when Aaron Donald starts like ripping Joe Burrow to the ground, he wasn't open. It just wasn't that way. So I don't know if that's people torturing themselves. Like, don't do that to yourselves, Bengals fans. I actually, I agree with Bengals fans.

The past interference call or holding call at the end was bad. It was. Like it absolutely was. Orange Gloves made an difference. Julian Edelman told us like, yeah, Orange Gloves, Bill Belichick, you just tell them all the time, wear white gloves so they can't call you for holding. Yeah. And like, so I understand the coping mechanisms that are used here that you have to go through

the whole thing. I also think if you want to do a what if I what if, what if Odell Beckham doesn't get hurt? The Rams were in by 10. Like they were looking back at that game. They had three drives or it might have been four drives, two punts, two touchdowns, but the two touchdowns were very easy. When Soto Beckham goes out, they don't, they don't do anything until that last drive.

Like they don't do anything real until that last drive of the game. Yeah. We also had the goat. If Patrick Mahomes makes this throw, the media goes nuts moment, which was awesome because everyone was going. Everyone had to do staffers. That's how they were going nuts about it. But Matt Stafford had a sick look away pass.

So now it's, now I'm going to flip it next year. And when Patrick Mahomes does something, I'm going to be like, when, when Matt Stafford makes a throw like this, everybody goes nuts. When Pat Mahomes does it crickets. Yeah. We're going to flip that narrative on its head. But that was a very nice throw. It was a sick throw.

The look away pass completed it. That was to cup, right? Yeah. That was to cup. That's why the Cooper cup, I, I know there was some debate about the MVP. You could give it to Aaron Donald. That Aaron Donald play on third down is so insane to watch. The fact that he was fully blocked and got around the offensive lineman and then grabbed

Pirine by the hips and just sat him down. He's a big dude. It's an insane play to watch over and over. And then obviously the fourth down, he gives Joe Burrow no chance to do anything. I still don't, I want to see like a full all 22 angle of where the ball landed. Cause I think Pirine's probably getting dogged a little bit when it, I feel like the ball died faster than we realized. No, it landed a few yards away from him as he was running downfield.

So you can't stop, turn around and jump. We can change. I could, I could. I personally, I could do it, but he's, he's a running guy. How do you not die for that? It's like, well, all his body momentum is going one way and the ball is dying, going the other. But I would have, I would have made that, I would have at least made an attempt at that

catch. Listen, me, I would have put my body on the line. That's the most important catch. Seasons on the line. Seasons on the line, your championships on the line, Pirine, you know, obviously he's thinking about his next contract and probably not willing to dive for a pass like that. Like I would have been as a real fan, but there was no, there was no chance he was going to get to that.

And so what I was saying is that Aaron Donnell, those last two plays were insane, but Cooper Cup, the reason why, I mean, the fact that Odell Beckham goes out, the whole defense knows it's going to be Cooper Cup. There's nothing you can do about it. Credits to the Rams for finally being like, Hey, let's stop throwing, running the ball for nothing. Let's stop trying to do like different plays. Let's just say, whatever, no matter what, it's Cooper Cup.

And like you even saw it with the fourth and one run play that Cooper Cup had the ball. They're like, this is our best player. He needs to have the ball and everyone in the world knew it was going to him and it still went to him and he still made catches. The stat that was crazy to me in the playoffs, Cooper Cup head in the fourth quarter of the playoffs, 12 targets, 12 receptions, 208 yards, nine first downs, two touchdowns. That's the definition of clutch. The definition of like, if you watched all these playoffs, you knew whenever the Rams

needed a big play, whenever they needed a first down, it was Cooper Cup and it was automatic. It was literally automatic. It was 12 targets for 12 receptions. He was definitely deserving of the MVP. I do understand the case for Aaron Donald. Me too. Well, I had a future on both of them. So in this is also just in like a stupid, antiquated, anything that has to do with

journalists, it's always antiquated, like in leagues. The MVP voting has to be submitted by by the two minute one. Right. That's how stupid is that because not only in a case like this, where it is, you could be like Aaron Donald deserve that MVP over his teammate, Cooper Cup. But what if the Bengals had won? Do they still get the MVP to Cooper Cup? Well, I think you vote for both.

I think they vote for both in case. But like what happened in the in the Falcons Patriots game when it went to overtime? Yeah, I think they were just like, you know what, we're going to get it to top. Right. It's nothing. Well, I was at Julien's. No, that was Julien's. Nothing of consequences ever happened past the two minute warning in football.

It's so stupid that there's this thing called phone age of technology. And how many votes are there? Probably like only 50. Yeah, there's probably like, yeah, you could just go around and get a head count. You could just be like, yeah, hey, everyone who likes Aaron Donald, put your hand up. Yeah, exactly. In the in the press box. But yeah, that was so stupid.

They probably have a more advanced system for ordering diet coax with the push of a button that they do for voting for for Super Bowl MVP. Without a doubt, without a doubt, Cooper Cup does, I think, submit the best single season receivers ever had. I know that he had extra game in the regular season, but there's only been three triple crowns in the modern era before him. It was Jerry Rice, Sterling Sharpen, Steve Smith. He adds the Super Bowl and the fact that he was so clutch,

33 receptions, 478 yards, six touchdowns in the playoffs. Insane, absolutely insane. And then the other thing, the other notes I had. So Joe Burrow at the party and Joe Burrow with the suit. I have no problem with Joe Burrow at the party. I don't understand what you would do there. I don't think I think most people didn't, but he was he was singing along to Kid Cudi.

He was on the stage like I mean, knowing the Bengals to their organization, like they they probably paid a lot of money for something that they didn't want to pay a lot of money for. You got to get everyone to the party. Yeah, I think I think the owner was like, you're all going. Yeah, you all have to call. You all have to go. I'm not wasting my money on Mr. Cudi.

You and guess what? You're all eating steak and chicken. Yep. Two meals. Take some home. I do think in fairness, I was thinking about it. I do have the take that Cam Newton has to bring two different pairs of clothes to a game. I think Joe Burrow should have brought a losing pair of clothes to the game.

Yeah, he's did look. It was sad when he was walking out with a limp, losing the Super Bowl in a zebra suit, the silver tiger striker. It's more for him than anyone. Like, dude, do you want to be in that right now? No chance. I like a bruised knee to slip on like suit pants. I agree with that.

I think that that every quarterback should have a winning suit and a losing suit. Yeah. And it's it's equally to me as a fan of respecting the media. It's equally as disrespectful when a quarterback who just won isn't dressed up like Cruella Deville, like a giant hat with a feather pointing out of it. I want my quarterbacks to be like easily identifiable. Like, that's the guy that won. That's the guy that lost. I don't want a winning quarterback to be wearing like a tattered t-shirt and sweatpants.

Yes. Yeah. Tough, tough look for Joe. But that's fine. Joe will be back. Hopefully I do. I do find it kind of interesting how everybody's like the Bengals are going to be back here for sure. Like, just say that out loud to yourself. The Bengals are going to be back here for sure. It's I hope they are. I love Joe Burrow, but given like who's in the AFC right now,

I if you if we said bet, you have to bet next decade, the Bengals go to X amount of Super Bowls. What would you bet be? I wouldn't even feel comfortable saying one more one, but over one and a half, you'd take the under all day. All day. And that's it's not disrespectful to the Bengals. No disrespect to you guys because the Chiefs are that good. The Bills are looking that good.

Herbert Herbert looks great. The Mar Jackson got forgotten about because he got injured and the Ravens got forgotten about because they all got injured. The Ravens are the most consistent. One of the most consistent franchises in the NFL. Like there is a lot of guys that are going to be real. I mean, Carson Wentz. Yeah, great, great.

Mike McDaniel, it looks like he's going to be a great coach with Tua. Tua. No, but it's it's just very hard to get to these. And just asked Amrino went to one. What is second year? Yeah, they never went back. Like it's it's crazy to think about how difficult it is for franchise to get to the Super Bowl and then to be like, yeah, we'll be back for sure. They got a lot of things to get to work on.

Now, the good the good news is the Chiefs went to Super Bowl last year, got absolutely destroyed by the Bucks and their offensive line failed them. They rebuilt it in a year. I don't know if you can do that. I like they hit on some things that you have to like get a little bit lucky on. But to say the Bengals can't just figure out a way to rebuild or drastically get better on offensive line in one off season.

They absolutely can't. They make a couple moves. They can't. Yeah, it's just the competition is pretty tough. We need to do one final last ranking of AFC North quarterbacks. OK, as is tradition on this show. I'm going to say number one goes to Joe Burrow. I'd agree. Number two. I'm going to give James Winston in a stealer.

No, no, we don't say that yet. OK. Because I'm hoping for him as a commander. OK. Number two, I'm going to go with Ben Roffelsperger out of respect. Out of respect. Everything that is done all season. Number three. Case Keenham against the Broncos. Yes. Number four, Baker Mayfield. Winnie's healthy. Mm hmm. Number five, Lamar.

Number six, Diarrhea. Yeah. Number six, Huntley. Number six, Huntley. Number seven, Lamar with Diarrhea. Number eight, Brandon Allen for that one play that I thought he was going to have to come in when I thought Joe Burrow's ACL was torn. He fucking sucks at calling a coin flip. And I looked and I looked over to you, PFT. I was like, yo, who's the backup?

You're like, Brandon Allen. We both are like, oh, oh, wait. Number number one, a Joe Mixon. Yeah, that was a sick pass. That was a sick pass. That was another thing. And I I do feel bad for Bengals fans. They should cope any way they want. And I know that a call, a bad call at the end of the game feels more important. The missed call on the on the T Higgins touchdown was very important

when you think about how the Bengals weren't really moving the ball. Yeah, like they use a trick play to score a touchdown and they had that like. So I don't walk away again from this game, being someone got robbed. I wouldn't say they weren't moving the ball. They were moving the ball a little bit, a little bit. They put together a couple of decent drives. But anytime that you have like a 50 yard bomber, how long is that 75 yard touchdown pass on clearly an offensive pass interference?

Like that that makes a big difference. Yeah, they were there. They had a couple of nice drives. I'm just saying it wasn't like it that play gets minimized. I think if it's a track meet and everyone's scoring on every play, it's like, oh, that probably would have happened anyway. Right. I'm sure like three of those catches happened in that Ohio State, Utah game. Right. Exactly. This one it every yard was hard to get, especially in the, in the second half for the Bengals.

So, I mean, there, there are two drives. They had a, they had a field goal drive eight plays. We had, think about it. Their entire second half, they had, remember, they got the interception. So they had eight plays, 11 yards to get a field goal there. They had the, the T Higgins touchdown. Every other drive was punt, punt, punt, punt, and then turnover on down. So in the game, so they weren't moving the ball in the second half.

They were in the first half a little bit, but that, that play was significant. I'm trying to think what if, oh, so two other things, the retirement boys, Sean McVeigh retiring, I think that one has a little bit of merit to it. Aaron Donald retiring has no merit to it. That is the most blatant and good for him. The most blatant I'm the best player in the NFL right now. And my contract is outdated. Pay me money. Yeah. Cause right now I think he's, he's currently do what,

$15 million a year for the next two years. Yeah. It sounds like a lot and it is a lot of money, but not for him. I think it's three years. And he's, so he's not going to, he's not going to walk away from that money. He's just trying to get more money. Right. I think he's like now like the eighth highest paid defensive player or something. It's, it's, it's stupid where he, where he is compared to where his, like what he produces.

That's how contracts work, obviously, but this is a very clear move by him to be like, I'm going to retire, pay me more money and they should pay more money. I'd like to just breaking news. I'm considering retiring from podcasting in two months. I'm going to walk away. I'm going to hang up the sticks, hang up the mics one last time, unless I want to get paid more money. If you want to pay me more money, that's fine. I'll come back.

Sign me up for a big deal. Boom. Done. So yeah, I think Sean McVay like that has a little bit of merit, but who knows? And then the only, the only last thing I had, well, two last things. Sorry. The Rams parade is hilarious. Did you see it? I saw that LeBron James is planning the Rams parade. Okay. The Rams parade. How long is the Rams parade? Give me a guess. Ninety minutes.

No, no length. Oh. This means in terms of buses, how many am I doing bus math distance, trucker math distance traveled. Okay. It depends again if there are trucks that are this is five 17 miles. It is three quarters of a mile. That's three quarters of a mile. It's incredible.

This is their parade when I had it pulled up there. Are the trucks actually going to go? I don't know what I don't know if they're going to walk. I don't know. Maybe they'll change it after they realize how ridiculous this is. They're going there. Their parade is going from basically outside the Los Angeles Coliseum to inside the Los Angeles Coliseum. They're going from the shrine auditorium to the Los Angeles Coliseum.

That rocks. Good for them. It's so perfect. Are they just they're just going to set up like a bunch of buses and then just have them walk across all the buses. It's not a parade. It's just a party. It's a party. That's fine. Call it a party. It's a party. But that's that's LeBron James.

He's planning that. Did you see his tweet? He probably wants it to be less than the the Lakers. So yeah. So LeBron James. Well, that's the thing. The Lakers didn't really get one because it was a Disney bubble championship that they got. Yep. So LeBron James yesterday logged on to Twitter as he often does. And he tweeted out we Dodgers and Rams should all do a joint parade

together with a live concert afterwards to end it. City of Champions trophy, trophy, trophy, ring, ring, ring. Congrats once again. Fire, fire, fire, fire, fire. So LeBron James king of making everything about LeBron James. That's incredible. Yeah, it is. No, I actually want LeBron to miss a Lakers game because he's attending his own championship parade with the Rams that he's co-opted into being a Lakers parade.

While the rest of his team has to play during the game, but only like LeBron and A.D. Yeah, skip the game to go to the Rams Super Bowl parade, which also honors the Lakers. I'd like to also invite because of a COVID year all four time and five time A.W.L.s, please attend this parade. This will be your parade. So we're just going to throw that in there. Make sure that they get awarded as well.

Yeah. Also, if we win a sports Emmy, which we're nominated for. And we this podcast isn't really fond of awards because I don't know. I guess we're too cool for school. We just think that like they're basically to get retweeted. So the way that awards shows work is that they they nominate people who they think will either retweet the award or they select the people who are going to win based on the people that are going to show up to the award. And we're doing either.

And then they talk about the award and they talk about the network that the award is being broadcast on and it becomes just a big suck fest for everybody involved, which normally I'm all for being involved in a giant suck fest. Well, I want to be sucked. I don't want to have to suck. Right. I that's the problem I have. Right. I don't want to leave with bad taste in my mouth. And we're not going to win this award. We might.

But we either way we're tanking it. Yeah, we submitted. They asked for our best clip of the 2021 2022 season. And we submitted John Cena getting mad at us because his friend died two days before. So I hope that they play that at the award ceremony. It would be awesome. And I'm sure that we lost. The funniest part to me is our I heart radio podcast award record that we have, which is being nominated.

We're the only person to be nominated every year and never have won or attended or attended. And so that streak is definitely they probably already had it. I don't even know. I want that streak forever. I never want to. Yeah. Yeah. We're the awardless show. All we do is give them out. That's just the type of guys we are. All right. So that. Oh, the last last thing, the Safford Hall fame debate.

I know that it's people bringing up. I just want to clarify. I don't I'm not saying that I think that Matt Safford is like an incredible Hall fame quarterback. I've my my statement has simply been that he will his career will be there by the end. And I think this will is a cherry on top for him. Oh, breaking news. The Bill Simmons podcast, one best sports podcast.

So the streak continues. Bullshit. Yeah. Bullshit is a scene interview. Probably. Yeah. No. But I I think you're right. I think that Stafford is going to be a Hall of Famer. I also the big you know who actually had the best come up from this was Matt Ryan. Yes, Matt.

Because now I'm a river. Usually Matt Ryan and guys like him, they take they take these ricochet shots when somebody's having a debate about somebody online. But in this one, it's like, no, wait. Matt Ryan was a fucking awesome quarterback and has been a great quarterback for a long time and probably will be a Hall of Famer. Philip Rivers, too, if you look at his stats, just insane. But now that Stafford has this and he is a wife guy and he's good to the media.

Good to the media. He got a ring. He's probably going to be Hall of Famer. Yeah, no, it's all these things actually matter. They maybe you can argue they shouldn't, but they absolutely matter. And he's again, he's like the Hall of Fame. They'll have to figure out how they judge these this era. But Matt Stafford is going to end up like top six all time in passing.

So and he's also going to no one's saying that he's right now. If he retired, he would be a Hall of Famer because I think he's still probably got a little work to do. My argument was always under the assumption that he plays until he's, I don't know, like 38, 39 and he adds up, you know, which would be four or five more years. That's the assumption that might not come true, though. Because yeah, who knows? Because the crazy thing is the way that the Rams are built right now,

they're all in, but then they've got the tiniest window. They've got, you know, that window and like the back seat of the Honda Civic that's part of the like side window, but it's a really small sliver. That's their window that they have right now. And the way that they're going to get hit by cap stuff, they're probably not going to. I don't know if Stafford's going to play for five years. Yeah, we'll see.

I mean, maybe he'll go somewhere else and play, finish out his career. But either way, he's going to have. It's also going to be very similar. Like everyone obviously assumes Eli Manning's the first ballad hall famer, the two Super Bowls to one is the difference. But there's not going to be, I mean, at the end of the day, like Matt Stafford and Eli Manning's numbers are going to be very similar where it's like you could never argue that they were the best quarterback

in the league, but they put up great numbers. They were consistent. Eli, obviously, Matt got his regular season is he's 500. Exactly. So it's not Matt Ryan did get an MVP, though. Matt Ryan got MVP. Yeah, no, Matt Ryan has absolutely a case. That's the people were trying to come, come back to me being like,

so what about Matt Ryan and Phil Rivers? I'm like, yeah, they're hall famers too. It's not the argument and people are throwing Richard Sherman's quote in my face. I agree with Richard Sherman. The hall of fame is not what it used to be. This, the passing stats have changed like how we perceive all these things. My argument is that because of what, like where the hall of fame sits

right now, guys like Matt Stafford, Matt Ryan, Phil Rivers, they're going to get it. They just are. So I guess I agree. All three of those guys are in someone asked me to put my house on it. I should have like, dude, if you were going to, if you really think this, put your house up, we say, I don't own a house, but I will. Yeah. No, you should actually, you should bet your life actually.

I should bet my life because it's one of those things that I could never actually lose by a cyanide capsule. You could still get in and say, yeah, I'm still waiting on it. Yeah. He's still waiting on veterans committee might get him in. That's going to be the funniest part is he's going to get in. Yeah. In like 40 years and I'm going to be screaming to no one told you so.

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It's a four man team today. It's me, PFT, Bubba and Memes, Hank and Billy and Jake are off on vacation. Just a reminder. So everyone remembers we're on vacation as well. Starting after this show, Friday, we have an awesome life episode, two and a half hours with Ryan Recila and Mark Titus. Monday is president's day. We're off Tuesday.

No show Wednesday. We'll be back. So we're really not, we're taking a holiday that's given to us and that's it. We're missing a show. We're technically, we're not, we're not going to be here. Billy Warner was to take it off for Biden. Yeah, no, yeah, yeah, yeah, president Biden, yes, yes, and Dr. Jill, yeah, and Bill Clinton, one of his heroes.

Yeah. So that's the schedule. And then we have some great interviews coming when we get back. But I want to, I want to see some vacation positivity from everyone. For sure. So I want to not say from the AWLs, like I want to see like, Hey, good job, guys. You're going on vacation. Yeah, actually.

Yell at, yell at me if I tweet anything over the course of this weekend. Be like, go get back to your vacation, go back on vacation. Log off to tell me, log off, touch grass. Yes, vacation. I need, I need your support in this. Yeah, I'm going on a vacation. I'm on an actual vacation without kids. I've learned very quickly that having kids means it's a trip when you're with the kids.

It's vacation when you're without. Yep. It's just moving. It's moving home base when you're bringing kids with you. Yep. All right, Baba. Hot seat, cool throw. My hot seat is everybody in the NBA, not named DeMar DeRosin, because I watched the

Bulls last night for the first time and he's just turned into like the greatest player of all time. He's amazing. I turned on the game. He had back to back possessions where he dunked on a guy and then I think he scored every point in the fourth quarter. Yes. He's been incredible this year.

Absolutely incredible. Are we on out of nowhere? Are we on turned back into a pumpkin watch with him? I've heard that narrative going already about DeMar. The season is like, he can't keep this up. Yeah, there's regression that obviously people talk about. I did see an interview with, he did with Taylor Rooks, maybe a couple of months ago where I guess his dad was really sick in the last couple of years in Toronto.

He was flying from Toronto to California in all his off days and then flying back, which had to have affected him, but he's been awesome to watch so much fun. I think the Bulls as a team are kind of pumpkining. Like they don't play defense since Caruso has been out, but DeMar DeRosin and Zachovine also has like one of those knee injuries that just keeps lingering where it's like seeing specialists and it just never feels good. But DeMar is awesome. So much fun to watch.

And my cool throne is Kodak Black. Yeah. PFT's guy, Super Gremlin. Basically, he just went on Sunday Conversation. It's like one of the best ones. Was he part of the shooting, though, that almost killed Dave? Yeah, he got shot. Did he get shot?

He got shot. Yeah, he got shot. How bad? But he's alive. Yeah, he's fine. Where'd he get shot? He got shot, I think, like in his leg. Quick power rankings, places to get shot.

Back, like back of the leg right here. The fleshy part of the thigh, you mean? Yeah. Yeah, so you may put a tattoo over it, too. I wonder, you know what, like, what if he paid some old, like Italian mafia guy to shoot him in the fleshy part of the thigh in order to get street cred for his album that he's going to put out? He's been to jail like several times, but he needs the street cred.

What about right here? Yeah, no, it's right pronto. It's up to us right through the that would suck, you think? Yeah, because then you kind of hurt her right through your plumes. X box part. Yeah, yeah, impact video games. Memes, you got a shot. Yeah, you could have fired off tweets.

Ear, foot, top of the ear, foot would suck. I'd say top of the shoulder. Ass would kind of be ass would be kind of cool. You have it to be lame and sit. Yeah, you couldn't sit, but it would be it would be the least hurtful, right? Yeah, probably. I know, I feel like calf, calf, calf muscle would be fine. Calf, maybe, maybe tricep.

Tricep would be not that bad. No, tricep would be bad because then you couldn't extend your arm at all for a little bit. Then you get a sick tattoo. Yeah, my problem is my triceps are so small. I'm sure it would graze a bone. Yeah, that happened. OK, so Kodak blocks back.

Cool throne. Yeah, the Sunday convo is very far. It's very, very funny. Go check it out. That's very good. Memes, you want to go? Sure. Here we go, memes.

Thanks for having me on. Yeah, get it. Get really talking to Mike there. Is Harambe one of yours? It was going to be go by the shirts. We have him out now. Yeah, we put out the since the Harambe shirts, too. And we got an update.

There's so many sickos in this world because the dead Harambe was the was the best seller from a fucking Ram Super Bowl. So you talked about it a little bit. I'm going with the ESPN Monday night crew on the hot seat, because supposedly if McVeigh wants out, ESPN wants him in for Monday night football. Tony Romo makes 18 million.

Same as Belichak, who's the highest paid coach. So they're saying that. Yeah, I mean, I never understood when people are like, why would McVeigh ever want to do this? I don't know. Why would he want to work like one hundredth of the amount of hours and time and stress for for more money? Yeah, I think that's a pretty good deal.

We were talking about this the other day and a lot of coaches, they keep coaching when they don't have to, just because they want to be away from their families all the time. But in McVeigh's case, he doesn't have a family. Getting married this summer. Yeah. Yeah. So now he's like, I'd love to spend all the time with my hot girlfriend and just with my boys chilling. Yeah. So he's in a position where he wants to stop coaching,

get paid a shitload of money, go on TV. It makes a lot of sense. Now, what would happen if the Manning said, we want to do the booth? Would they like relegate McVeigh? McVeigh would do the Manning cast. And we'll move to Hartford. Yeah, McVeigh, what they would do is they'd be like, hey, we'll get McVeigh and all the Grootens to do the Manning cast together.

Yeah. And it'll just be the Grootens show. All like the normies would love McVeigh. Just referencing like Rain and Plays from five years ago. Yes. Oh, my God. He's a fucking genius. Oh, my God. He'd be like, we call this play Rihanna. Remember that? Yes. Yes. Yes.

OK, you're Cool Throne. And then Cool Throne, Nets Locker Room. Bruce Brown said everybody likes each other now. Yeah. Ben Simmons, no longer mental health patient. Good to go. I'm very happy for Ben Simmons. Yep. Is who knows what the fuck is going to happen between him and James Harden. But it is also very funny that James Harden didn't sign his extension.

Yeah. So he could be a free agent this offseason. I really do. I actually might. Is going to sound crazy. I might take a future on the Nets to win the title. I if Ben Simmons can play and be like decent. Kyrie and Kevin Durant. And I also it would be awesome if Kyrie just got vaccinated tomorrow. Just writing James Harden's face because like I know Harden was really pissed about that.

So that would be a very funny thing if he was just like, actually, I'm back. I'm all in. Well, it depends if the new governor of of New York is going to do like these hundred dollar incentives. Maybe Kyrie sees that and he's like, yeah, you know what? Shot man gets paid. It's worth it. Yeah, it's worth it. All right. Good ones. Good ones. PFT. My hot seat is Tommy Amaker.

Yeah. See the report coming out. Oh, it's too bad that Hank's not here to talk about Coach K. But there's a report coming out a new book that Tommy Amaker was going to be named next head coach of Duke. He coaches at Harvard now and coached at Seton Hall, I believe, before then. Yep. And Coach K got on a zoom with him and essentially said, I can't have you taking this job because that would set John Shire back in his career.

So we want you to take your name out of consideration. And out of respect for Coach K. Tommy Amaker realized that this job search thing was over. Apparently, he had been offered the job already until Coach K stepped in and told him, no, sorry, we don't want you here. Wow. So it's K races. I would just love to hear Hank's position on maybe add a couple more Ks to your name.

But interesting. This is legacy defining moves. It is legacy defining. I I hope it's not true. I hope that there's some sort of mix up in the press. Yeah. And I'm sure Hank will clarify at his earliest possible convenience when he returns from vacation. Yes. My cool throw is Kyler Murray. Ah, that was my hot seat.

No, it's cool thrown because there's absolutely nothing to see here. Kyler Murray hopped on social media and he cleared things up. Everybody had been wondering for the last couple of weeks. What's going on between Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals? He unfollowed them on social media, which it's so hilarious that this is what NFL players are doing now to like voice displeasure. Is there they're looking at their hands at their phone and they're hitting a button that'll show them.

But it's it's it's funny, but it's also very true. Like whenever we're like, oh, man, how is this news that someone unfollows someone? Yeah, Kyler Murray consciously unfollowed them in anger. Yes, like he looked at it and was like, fuck these guys. Yeah, you can't you can't tell me different. I'll show them. Yes. So between this and like the fake, I don't. Is he lobbing for a new contract? I don't know.

But anyways, he wants less of the blame. OK, fine, fair enough. You'll you'll get less of the blame, Kyler. Yeah, he he tweeted out a statement. He notes apt it and he said, I play this. By the way, you can tell it's a very serious note zap because he used the the the title heading for the entire one. The big, bold one.

I play this game for the love of it. My teammates, everyone who has helped me get to this position that believed in me and to win championships. All of this nonsense is not what I'm about. Never has been, never will be. Anyone who has ever stepped between these lines with me knows how hard I go. Love me or hate me, but I'm going to continue to grow and get better. So boom, in the story, all that says it all.

All of this nonsense that I that I directly caused is I'm not about it. And you can make the case that this is just more nonsense. Correct. I think Kyler Murray leads the league in nonsense. He does. He also. So this was I don't know if it was transcribed to a note zap on Twitter. I'm blocked by him, but he did use this same caption on Instagram. OK. And he posted it with a picture and the picture he posted. It's the tallest I've ever seen him.

I saw that picture like that. He's remarkably tall in this picture. You know what? The angles wise. He's a master of angles. What he's done is he's he put his helmet a couple inches behind his feet. So he stepped in front of it and no one else around him. Yeah. Yeah. He looks so tall in this picture. He does. I I actually could learn a lot about this picture.

But yeah, this Kyler Murray way to go, dude. It's like you're causing all this, but you're not about it. Mm hmm. Case closed. All right. My so that was going to be my hot seat. My cool throne is Novak Djokovic. So he has decided that he is not going. He's going to opt out of Future Grand Slaves with COVID-19 vaccine vaccine mandates.

And I just want to say I applaud him and he's brave. And I think that everyone should get their own choice. So good job, Djokovic. You're my goat. Yep. Unlike other athletes who may have opted out. Yeah. Well, there's a difference. He plays an individual sport. Right. Other guys who play team sports, if you refuse a vaccine, jail. Yes. Exactly.

He also said it's not about the vaccine. It's about the principles of it. So there you go. Just for anyone out there who thinks this is about the vaccine. It's actually not. It's states rights. Mm hmm. It's not.

It's not. What was it? It's not slavery. It's states. Yes, it's about states rights. Yeah, there was actually on the on the road trip to drive to the four or five a couple of times when I thought that Billy was going to just start driving north. Like when we crossed 35, I was like, Billy's going to drive up to Alberta. Yeah. And he's going to think that he's a trucker.

And join the convoy. I also just remember we forgot to mention the story when we basically just did a PMT at like four in the morning the other night. Oh, yeah. When we all we all just happened to randomly walk into each other like by the pool at the hotel. All four of us ended up back walking into the hotel, like within two minutes of each other at 345 in the morning.

You're sitting down at the hotel at the hotel pool and just laughing and and and starting to riff. And there was like a couple of random people there. They're like, what are you guys doing? I was like, don't worry, we're doing a show. You're like, welcome to this conversation is brought to by Roman Swipes. We're doing this right now. Don't don't just go away.

Yeah, we're recording a podcast in real life. We actually had there was a friend came back at about the same time and she walked behind us. They're like, friend, you want to come on the show? Yeah. Yeah. Essentially yell at her to ask her into a conversation. She's like, no, thanks, guys, I'm tired. Like, all right, that's Frank.

Give it up for Frank, guys. It was very similar to the memory that we had of last time we're in LA, you weren't with us, Bubba, but it was me, PFT and Hank. We played a very physical game of 21 at the Beverly Hills. What was that? What was that? Marina Del Rey, Marina Del Rey, four seasons, played a very physical game of 21, then smoked weed, then got in a hot tub. And it was a three of us and then a couple that were like trying to have

a very like sensual evening. And we were just talking about if we were super rich, what we'd put in our house. I was like, I'd put a chili's in a bowling alley. Like these people are just sitting there, like trying to make out what we're just super high talking about the most random shit. We end up doing the show a lot. Yeah. When we're not doing this. So that was that was a good one, though.

I think this most recent one might have been our best episode. Oh, so good. I wish we had recorded it. We I don't know. I don't remember it. I'm glad that we didn't. That one's like it's good to do an episode every now and again that just goes out for the love of the game. Yeah. Like people say I do this for free. We actually do do this show for free.

Right. It's like when Kyrie shows up, like dressed up like an old guy, even though that was for a movie, like play, you know what I mean? We're just we just show up and start podcasting. We should actually do that at some point, like go to some sort of podcast convention, dressed up as old people like Donna Gruden. And what was your name? I'm in Roth and be like, can we see how to use these things? Yeah. And then just step up there and do an episode of part of my take

dressed looking like old people or even better. We go to like we go to like a busy coffee shop or like a train station. And we just start like the Beatles playing on the roof. They have a loud conversation. Not that we're the Beatles, but yeah, just be like, holy shit. They're doing a podcast. And then we have like millions of people like, oh, my God, they're doing a part. The funny part about podcasting is that even if me and Big Cat did that

and even if we did like a Monday recap where we're doing like the fastest two minutes with the noises, nobody would stand and watch. Maybe maybe one person. It would be like the videos of like a world famous violinist playing the world's most expensive violin and Union Station. People just walking by ignoring. Yes. Again, we're not that guy. Again, we're not. We're absolutely not.

We just compared ourselves to like the greatest. Well, no, I'm I'm saying it's totally different for podcast because what we do takes significantly less talent, I would say. There'd be one dude that would be like, hey, can I can I just get a picture and you guys can just keep talking like I'm not here to listen. Yeah. And then he puts this head full. I'd see you. Listen. All right, let's get to TJ Watt.

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You are that you are missing like Avengers Stone. Yeah, the Infinity Stone. I've not seen it either. But you're sure. So yeah. Collect them all. We've got them all. You're like Pokemon. Yes. Yes. So very like awesome. Congratulations, by the way. Like we thought you were a defensive player year all year.

Also a little mini dynasty right now, because I think I crunched the numbers four out of the last 10 defensive player of the years are Wisconsin Badgers, which is insane that they produce that many good defensive players. It was literally just. That's OK. OK. It's a cool stat that's right there now. Fullbacks and defense. Yeah, yeah.

But we have to start before we get into the season and everything else. We have to start with something. This is why we had to have Hank here, who is a little late, but that's OK. I don't know if you saw the video. Oh, I saw. Oh. So do you want to apologize or how do we go about this? Because I I do want to apologize. I don't know if you read it wrong, how exactly it happened.

If it was if it was DJ, I would have understood. But hey, I understand the excitement that you had. I wish it would have hit for your buddy. But well, or anyone who doesn't know what we're talking about, I mean, most people do. But Hank bet in the Steelers Chiefs game first touchdown. He thought he had bet first touchdown score T.J. Watt, which is insane.

And you actually did score the first touchdown, which that's was that? How many touchdowns have you scored? I was the first one. First one ever. First one in the game, Hank stood up and thought he had won three thousand dollars off a twenty dollar bet. The look on his face was priceless. Yes. Before and after you found out. Yes. And I actually remember I was talking to J.J.

after because he was like, this has to be a bit. And I was like, no, no, no, like, we are this stupid. So you robbed him of an unbelievable moment. I'm sorry. I'm truly sorry. Yeah, you own like three grand. We'll figure that out. That was cool, though, when you scored that touchdown.

It was you can never take away that moment we had with Hank, where he thought he hit that bet. Hey, that had to be a hell of an exciting couple of minutes. So no, it was a run. Yeah. And it actually was like a couple of minutes before Hank read your name. And he was like, oh, no, it was it was Nick. Right. Nick was like, this isn't Derrick Watt.

Incredible. Yeah, it was great. It was all time in that game where you after you scored the touchdown because we put together a list of things that needed to happen for the Steelers to win that game. And I think the first one was we we need T.J. Watt to score at least one touchdown, maybe more. But at that point where you like, we can do this, like maybe maybe we can beat the Chiefs.

I mean, I thought we had a chance. I really did. I mean, I didn't know how their offense was so powerful. And we put together a great string of stops. And it was one of those things we don't know how much longer you're going to be able to keep stopping them. But we knew we had to score points. Was glad to get in the end zone. I tried to do my own little Lambo leap.

I think I headbutted the guy. I felt so bad I hit him hard with my face mask and turn around, celebrate. I thought we had good momentum and clearly it just wasn't. I mean, it was crazy that you guys got to the playoffs to begin with because there was times where it felt like the season was slipping away. And you you obviously battled some injuries. Incredible defensive player of the year. What injury, though, this year was Big Ben most jealous of?

Was he like, Oh, I kind of wish I had that because he loves injuries. I don't know. I mean, I think people are always jealous of a nice groin injury. I don't know, it's still probably throw in the pocket with the groin injury. He can miss some practice time show up on a Friday. Still practice sick. Yeah, it's nice, nice little limp. I don't know. I mean, I go get treatment done. Yeah, yeah, a little treatment, a little grassed in on a little treatment, cupping all that stuff.

But yeah, I had a fair share of injuries myself. But didn't miss too much time. No, you didn't. How many walking boots does he have just like in and around his locker? He's got a separate locker for the walking. Yeah, I like to think he's got like different styles of like he's got Jordan walking boot. He's got like a Yeezy branded walking boot, depending on the day.

We love Big Ben. We love him. His goodbye this year was emotional. I think everybody got a little more emotional seeing him walk off the field with his family. Is there any chance at all that he comes back any chance? Just tell me like one percent. I have no idea. I have no idea.

I mean, it sounded like his retirement was a true retirement, but who knows? I I'm just thankful that I had the five years that I had with him. It was it was cool to be a part of. So playing for the Steelers, obviously iconic franchise. How much does it actually pump you up when Renegade plays? Because I was at the Monday Night Football Game Bears Steelers and they played Renegade and literally two seconds later, the Bears fumbled. And I was like, this is illegal.

This is not fair. Does it really pump you guys up like because from a fan perspective, we're like, holy shit, this is awesome. It's cool. I mean, in college, you used to watch like hit tapes before games, you know, and it gets you pumped up in an NFL. You don't really have all the hip tapes and the height, the hip tapes and the height before games. So the lights go out and it used to be.

I mean, I think my dad always said to me, like, every time you guys play Renegade, the team just goes down your throat and just scores a touchdown. There was like a stretch of games or Renegade playing. We just played terribly. This year, it was just one of those years where Renegade played. We really fed off the hype and the adrenaline. The lights go out and the terrible towels go crazy. And when that stadium is rocking, it's a fun, it's a fun atmosphere to play.

Yeah, one time they played double Renegade. That was crazy. Double Renegade. Yeah, yeah, they went double Renegade like two years ago. Just run it back. Yeah, I don't know if they did by mistake or if it was on purpose, but it was awesome. And I think you guys got like a turnover on that drive.

Do you like, what do you listen to in the locker room before a game? Well, I'm not allowed to have my phone on me 90 minutes before the game. So is that Tomlin rule? No, that's an NFL mandated. Huh, really? I you got to check that, I think. I received I received a fine for saying it jokingly in an interview this year. So just a little stab.

Oh, OK, I jokingly said I checked my phone at half time of the Baltimore game and it NFL took it as a real saying and fined me $10. No way. Why aren't you seriously? That doesn't make any sense. So it's just one of those things where, yeah, I'm not allowed to have my phone on me at all 90 minutes before the game or during halftime. So if there's music playing in the locker room, I'll listen to that. Otherwise, I just sit down at my locker.

Is it just focused? Is Gidele trying to cut down on screen time for all the players? Or like, what is I don't understand? Hey, a six star pro nutrition, that was our thing. It was cutting down on screen time. So maybe that's maybe that's a full thing. Yeah, I did a terrible job, by the way, of introducing the nutrition you got here. The stuff here, that's my bad.

We did have Billy football is already in Vegas, but this is PFT. He's been working out a lot. So he's going to start using it on a run a second ago. And I brought my jewel with me and I hit it before I turned around. When they said in the workout, I was like, OK, now it's time to go back. I was like, all right, just give me a break here. Took a couple of drags, got the lungs moving, activated. I'll take some of this pre-workout now.

Yeah, so it's got they got pre-workout. It's called six star pro nutrition. You should check it out if you're if you're trying to get back in shape in 2022. Boom, here it is. Put on some muscle. It's right here for you. PFT is literally going to take you just scoop and dump it. Are you going to put in some water?

Just raw dogged here. Here's some water. I respect that. I do have to I teach I have to come clean with something. We almost had a disaster in the studio when he's right before you came here. What happened? All right. So JJ and I, like everyone knows part of my take in JJ's relationship. It's actually I've become friends with him. We text, you know, not like all the time, but you know, we'll catch up every now

and then talk about the badgers. So last night I texted him, I was like, Hey, what like, what do you have on TJ that I can get him on? And he was like, well, he's like legit, like very, very badly allergic to tree nuts. And he was like, he almost died at Derek's wedding. Like didn't go to the wedding. So I was like, great. So I went and I bought some nuts and put him in a Ziploc bag and wrote tree

nuts on them. And I told the guys before and they're like, but wait, what are those nuts? And I was like, almonds. And they're like, those are tree nuts. Almond is a tree nut is a type of nut. Like I was, you thought there was an actual tree nut. Yeah, I didn't realize. So you almost died again.

Like that would have almost happened. That would have been like three out of the five Super Bowl weekends I had attended that I had. We were just telling the story last night when we were in Arizona, JJ got defense for the year, I don't know what one of the three times. And I ate some like Lomain or something from the hotel. And I had an allergic reaction. I was on the red carpet with just a red face.

There was once in Pittsburgh, James Harrison actually emergency drove me to the hospital because I had my face looked like I just went five rounds with Mike Tyson. And then one year at the Super Bowl, my dad jokingly threw a pecan at me and it hit me in the face and my face blew up. No way, because I did. I went and washed my hands. I went and washed my hands because I was like, oh, shit.

I know he felt terrible about it, but he felt he felt really bad. If I still give him crap, he's like, I didn't throw it. I'm like, yeah, me and you were the only ones in the room, man. Holy shit. That's funny. Yeah, the big plan was we're just going to toss these nuts out and see what happens. We might have killed you. Oh, it might have been bad.

Yeah, I saved your life. I saw that bag and I was like, wait, big cats. Those are almonds. I think that almonds are tree nuts. Please, can we not kill our guests today? Is there is there a certain one that's more you're more allergic to? I do it. They like run me through a gammon of tests every year.

And they're like, I don't think you're allergic to almonds. And I'm like, I'm still staying away. Yeah, they gave you like ones that you want to try. I do not want to. You have an option. Yeah, my fiance carries that pen. I know I'm why don't we just try an almond just with the boys? You want to play it?

It would make great content. We just just have like a time lapse of my face just like blowing up. It's like a spin off of Sean Evans hot ones. We just find things that people are allergic to and try to kill them slowly during an interview. Just see how long my airways cut off. Yeah, I say we play almond roulette. We have two peanuts and then one almond. Yeah.

And then you have to you have to overturn a cup and eat that nut that's under there. Yeah. I've always envy like pecan pie and stuff like that. It's always smells so good, but I've never been able to eat it. All right. So who's the funniest? What brother? I heard it's you.

It is me. Yeah, I heard it. OK, all right. All right. Because I mean, I did hear it was you. Is are you guys still like now? Obviously Derek's got kids. You guys have moved around a lot of like, you know, career shifts.

Are you guys still just as competitive when you get together, the three of you? Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned Derek has kids because Derek always mentions that he has kids. So we guys got Derek. Yeah, kids. Yeah, we're very competitive. And it's one of those things that whenever we do get together in the off season and train, it's you do kick it up a notch.

And that's why I like when you win awards like this and we have that special embrace on stage, it it truly is so special. And you have to take a moment to realize that three of us are in the NFL. We grew up in the same household together and put so much work into it that when we are together, we truly bring the best out of each other. And it's it's a really unique bond. And the craziest part about your like career is obviously everyone knows JJ's, you know, the Central Michigan part of it.

But like when you went to Wisconsin, you was it three full years that you didn't play a snap because of injuries? Yeah, I mean, if you want, I can run through the game. And it's take me like two minutes to run through. But yeah, I went to Wisconsin as a tight end, was 18 years old, red shirted, was fine with that going against like Brendan Kelly, guys like 22 years old. I mean, I wasn't ready to play at all. I just scout team bull prep, dislocated my right kneecap.

So basically just pops out and comes back in. They said, just rehab it, no surgery. So I said, all right, first day of spring ball. So like three months later, first day of practice, dislocated my left one. So basically said, the for the right one's fine with rehab. So just rehab it again, came back first day of fall camp. Like first day of pads dislocated the right one again. So basically flew down to Houston.

JJ's team surgeon, Walt Lowe, operated on my right knee and was really healthy. Was there for the LSU game when they played LSU down there. Emotional, saw them go out of the tunnel. Was bummed I couldn't be there, came back after surgery. I think it was spring ball again, or maybe it was fall camp. Left one or a spring ball left one went right after I repaired my right one. So still tight end went down, got surgery again. And then it was that summer where Coach Chris was like, Hey, man,

you should try playing defense. And I was like, am I not a good enough tight end for you or what? I thought you were going to say like try playing soccer. You should try handing out water. So you popped both of them out twice. Yeah. Yeah. And that's so now we're what, 2014? No, yeah.

So I had two years at Wisconsin where I actually played. I had the one year where I switched to defense and played behind Vince Beagle and Joe Schover. In 15, yeah. Yeah, 15. And then and then in spring ball had a true spring ball, which is the first one I ever had in college and then played the one year started. And then NFL told me return to school.

I was a minute of my papers and just said, you don't know me. You don't know the work that I put in, what I've been through and was able to be a first round pick. So it's crazy though, like to think, you know, it had to be very demoralizing to have being a football player, someone who loves football, football family. And you go like, like I said, I think it was three full years. You didn't get to play a live snap of football. Yeah, it was frustrating.

And I mean, obviously you have a lot of expectations being the younger brother of I mean, Derek was a hell of a player at Wisconsin two and still is to this day. But I it was just trying to figure out why this was happening, all that stuff. But it gave me perspective. You'd hear guys complaining about practice and they don't want to be here. And I would have given everything to be able to practice. And I think that's why I love this game so much is because it was taken away for me for those crucial years in college.

Yeah, yeah. And that that 16 team was obviously very good. Did you think Bart Houston? Did you think you maybe had a shot at the Heisman after that first game? Yeah, I did. LSU, I made the shirts. Hey, Bart Houston was a hell of a hell of a football player. He's like a California high school legend.

I know. And his name was just awesome. And I was like, holy shit, like you guys beat LSU at Lambeau. It actually it's like a sliding door moment because that kind of ended less miles like that was the beginning of the end for him. And I was like, oh, fuck, man, Bart Houston, Bart Heisman. This is going to happen. You don't meet too many Barts yesterdays. Yeah, real true. Good football name.

Yeah, true. Yeah. How come Derrick's the only one that's allowed to play offense? I mean, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out I would like to get a snap of offense. Yeah. Well, so what position would you like? Would you like to get a tight end or do you want to be a full back? Tight. I don't want to. I don't want to have to have a big collision.

I'm trying to save a potential helmet, the helmet collision. It would be just so awesome. There would be like, I just I want to I want to do something on offense where I don't touch the ball. You never hear about like a defensive player lobbying to play. You just go on offense and not get the full back that I have on third one. Yeah, yeah. I just want to block or like, can I be can you just put me in at like a tackle eligible, but I won't go out on a route.

I'll just stay in and block. Exactly. I'll just come back and block the end. That's not even in the play. Yeah. Have you have you asked Mike Tomlin if you can play offense? I haven't. I'm sure he'd look at me and just say no. I don't think it'd be much joking to go along with it. Yeah. But who knows? I what is it about Mike Tomlin?

Because I've actually like my thoughts on Mike Tomlin have evolved through the years where there was, you know, there was the time when Antonio Brown and Levion Bell thing was happening. I was like, is he kind of losing this? But then in retrospect, I'm like, Holy shit, Mike Tomlin's an incredible coach that everything was able to stay together. Like is he everyone says he's a player's coach. What does that look like day to day?

He's a cool guy, man. And he's fun to play for. He can be like that, that friend role if you want. If you in moments, I think he just plays those moments so well. And then there's also times where he's just so commanding. I don't know if you've ever met him or had a conversation, but he's got that deep voice and how have you run through a wall form? He's just so organized.

He knows how to motivate individual guys. I think that's really tough in the NFL. You got guys coming from all different places, motivated different ways. And he knows how to grind your gears and he'll talk up the other teams. Edge rusher, like he's the almighty and kind of look at me side-eyed. And I'm like, message received, message received. So what is it the Tomlin thing that I love? I love coaches that I can like depend on.

I know the spots to pick. Like, all right, this is where this is a Mike Tomlin spot. This is the first part of this question is going to sound like it's a dig at you guys. But there's been times in the past where the Steelers have gone in as big favorites and it's like maybe come out flat. But then when you guys are like back against the wall, what does he do to get it back against the wall Steelers are underdogs. Like, all right, Mike Tomlin, he'll have them ready.

Yeah, I think it's one of those things where he's consistent in everything that he does. It's not like there's big, raw, raw speeches or when we're on top, it's not like we're sitting around thinking we're the shit or anything like that. I think it's just one of those things where he's so consistent over a time that it's hard to not buy in. And I don't I don't think that's anything to do with him. I think in those situations, we just can't let up on the gas pedal. Yeah, do you ever find yourself listening to him talk and you're like the words

that he's using are English and I know what he means by what he says. But it doesn't really make sense as a sense. He's got a lot of like one liners, a lot of a lot of good sayings. I mean, there's a fine line between squish and grapes and make and wine. Yeah, I like that one. Cut your eyelids off. Cut your eyelids off. Don't blink. Yeah, don't don't blink. Standard is the standard.

Standard is the standard. The new one this year was either you're either buying smart or you're buying in a gated community. So either you're balling and you're making a lot of money or you're you're buying smart. I like that one. Yeah, that one's good. You could tell like he's definitely reading the book where he got that from. Yeah, you got to be coming from somewhere.

Yeah, I love it because you can I get his vibe whenever he says something. I know what he's trying to communicate. He's a very effective community. He could say anything. He could read the dictionary. I'd be like, oh, OK, yeah, he wants me to get amped up. I get that. But yeah, we love.

Love, Mike Tomlin. What is the standard is the standard mean? We've been debating that for the last couple of years. Haven't gotten around to figuring out. I take it as like the next it's like the next man up mentality doesn't. I mean, Pittsburgh Steelers, gritty defense for for me as a as a defensive player, doesn't matter who's in the game. Like I said, I missed a couple of games.

The next guy has to step up. The standard has been set by seven or six Super Bowls in the past. It's the standard is the standard. Yeah, what is it? I just say a whole bunch of words that just didn't mean anything. No, it's great. The way that you described it was perfect. It's like, you know, Pittsburgh Steelers are mentality.

Yeah, the standard is the standard. I get it. I get what it means. Yeah, yeah, we love them. I have a I have a quote here. This is actually a tweet that was put out earlier this year from our good friend Adam Schefter. So you signed your big contract.

Congratulations. Can I have some money? You don't have to answer that. But the tweet was Steelers outside linebacker T.J. Watt overruled his agents who believed they could get more money today, marched into the office of Steelers president Art Rooney and told him they had a deal. Then the NFL's new highest paid defensive player excused himself and announced he had to go work out.

That's just one of those things, man, having fun. And I mean, the deal, I'm just so glad that the deal got done with Mr. Rooney and it was a hard process to get there. Glad it got done and it was one of those things. It was a Thursday. I always work out on a Thursday. Always take a scoop of my six-star pre-workout. Which, by the way, is delicious.

Is it good? Is your face crawling yet? You're starting to get a little red in the face. You have beta alanine or whatever, it tingles a little bit. But yeah, I went down, I worked out and just went about my day. It was one of those things where when they said the deal was potentially done, it was a Thursday after practice. Normally get my work out in afterwards and went up,

shook Mr. Rooney's hand and went down and worked out and went about my day. Did you march into the office? I don't know if I've ever marched anywhere. Did you announce that you had to go work out? No, there's no megaphone near me to say like, to let everybody upstairs know that I was about to work out. So did you write that tweet or did your agent? I said you wrote it.

I didn't write that tweet. I was probably doing my social media cleanse through six-star at that point. Oh yeah, there we go. Wait, who is your agent? Who else do they rep in the league? My agency is CAA Sports. Okay, so we just try to connect the dots. Like Adam Schefter tweeted about how important Jimmy G is.

It was clear he was trying to just get the info on Tom Brady's retirement. So we're trying to just figure out like, what was he tweeting that got him this. That's mind-blowing stuff. I mean, this is the stuff that you guys who are working out and we're sitting here being like, ooh, what does this tweet mean? I wonder who wrote Adam Schefter's tweet for it. It's a great life.

It's a great life. It actually is. Hypothetically, not talking about anybody in this room, but hypothetically, would it be weird if a 37-year-old man was DMing college students trying to get them to transfer to Wisconsin? Hypothetically. Hypothetically? Yeah, hypothetically.

Pretty weird. Yeah, but depending. I'd have to know the hypothetical situation. So hypothetically, it's not a high school kid. It's a kid who already went to hypothetical Oklahoma for a year. It's never good to start a sense with hypothetically. It's not a high school kid. Not a high school kid, but I just want to clear.

I would never DM a high school kid. Unless he was a five-star quarterback, then I probably would. But hypothetically, this person just said, yo, what's up, man? Madison is sick. You fuck with my vision, let's build. I'd say hypothetically, your poll must have not been what you thought. Clearly didn't. But hypothetically, if for some reason he didn't choose Wisconsin and he was like,

all I really wanted was for Big Cat to reach out, maybe the 0.001% chance that happens, if I hadn't, I would have been killing myself. Hypothetically, you did your part. You did your part. And I actually sleep at night. Hypothetically, hypothetically, other guys, again, just random people, guys who maybe signed a $100 million contract a few years ago, or a guy who signed an $80 million guaranteed contract

and then immediately marched into the weight room. Like, those guys feel like guys that have a little bit of money that they could throw around to hypothetically get this kid to go to Wisconsin. Hypothetically, I don't know what J.D. is doing. Why not just be like, I guess this is the difference between players and fans, that if I had your money, I would have been like, hey, Caleb Williams, here's $10 million. I'm not sure that's needed. I want to just be happy.

Where do I send that wire to? Yeah. Is that, I don't even know what NIL rules are. No, you can just cash out that. Yeah, just Ben Muller, Zeller, whatever they're doing these days. No problem, no problem. I just listen. I would get him Mickey's daily bar forever.

Yes, exactly. What would you spend that on in Madison, Wisconsin? I know, right? Like, yeah, I don't know. Like, you actually couldn't, it'd be like a Brewster's Million situation. Like, can you spend $10 million on drinks in a college town like Madison, where everything is like $2? He'd be like $1,000 and be like, I did everything I wanted to.

Right, right. Living like a king. I just, I, listen, I am very open about the fact that I would like to be a Booster. Why not? Why not? Yeah, why not? What's the downside? I don't think I can go to jail, right?

No, I don't think so. So then I'm good. All those Miami guys that worked out fine for them. Wait, no, one guy went to prison. That was something different. He did like fucking, they always get you for like tax evasion or something. Ponzi scheme. I'll just pay my taxes and then just give money to players, high school kids.

Sounds like a good business. Sounds like a great business. Who's stronger? You or JJ? JJ is stronger. Really? Yeah, he's strong as shit, man. Get some of this pre-workout in.

He's strong as shit. He's a plug. Yeah. I mean, with my six-star pro nutrition, this is, I think my second or third year with them now, I think I'll be able to take my, my workouts and new heights this off season. I like it. What, how much more does he bench than you? I have no idea what the actual number is.

We don't really do max benches anymore. I know that people don't like to hear that because it's too, it's too dangerous. It's too dangerous. Yeah, I guess. Do your band work and shit. Yeah, it's all, it's all football specific stuff now. Right. People want to see the squats and the bench, but.

Yeah. A lot, a lot of times, I don't know, JJ likes to get the pictures of the squats deep in there. He does. Yeah, he looks, he looks posting online. What's the, so Derek being on your team this year, like Derek's a good football player, your defensive player of the year. That's no knock on Derek, but is there ever a time where it's like Derek has to be like, hey, TJ, like the guys are being mean to me.

Can you like help me out? Like you're the best player on this team. No, Derek can handle himself. That's the cool thing. I mean, like, I hate that special team gets overlooked as much as it does. And I know you're a kicker, but. True. It's the amount that goes in that he puts into special teams and the amount of pride that he

takes in special teams is something that I didn't have an appreciation for until he got here. I didn't know how much he truly put into running down the field. And it's hard to make those tackles in open field. I mean, I had was on punt my rookie year and I got hurt my second game. And I hoped that they didn't put me back on the punt team and they did anyways. But those are hard plays to make and he puts, he cares a whole lot about it. And it, it, I just love watching him compete and be able to see him up close and personal and do what he does professionally is awesome.

Yeah, he's a, he's a very good fullback and he's a very good special teams player. Like you said, how come he doesn't get a J in his name though? Because I think DJ Tanner from Full House was a girl. So he didn't want to be DJ. I think, I think that's the root of it. So his middle name is a J. Derek John, you know. Oh, so it's his choice to not be a J.

Yes. Wow. I don't know if I like that. It is kind of cool to have like the one guy that plays offense. He's not a J. He's a little different. He did play defense in college though. Yeah.

He started out. So why, why did he get switched? I think Chris Borland and I forget who else is in there. And I mean, he throw, he smacks, he smacks it around in there and throws his head around in there and they liked the way that he presented an accepted context. They put him a fullback. All right. So we're going to run this right after the Super Bowl, but there's been a lot of talk

about Joe Burrow and like playing different sports and how he could, I think his quote is he could get like 12 points in an NBA game. You're an insane hockey player. If we threw you out there, could you last a shift in the NHL? It was like two minutes, right? Yeah. I think I could let, I mean, yeah, I think I could let. I mean, if we're fighting for 30 seconds of the shift.

Would you score? Would you, what position? I was a, I was a center or left wing. I was a lefty. So I haven't played. That's actually a, this off season, I want to get some skates and I want to run out some ice time and I want to get back on the ice thing. That'd be a lot of fun.

But I don't know if I'd get you a goal. I mean, some of the scores are 1 to 0, 0, 0. I don't know. I don't want to disrespect the NHL guys out there. Maybe just crash the net, just getting in front of the net. Yeah, yeah. Push the goalie around and see who's got the goalies back. Yeah, it's a playoff goal.

That was the thing on the, on the team playing home one year or one flight. We said, I could get you two points in a rebound in an NBA game. You could? Yeah. I think I could. A rebound. Yeah. The rebound would be tough.

No, I think the rebound might be easier than. Well, you could be talking. Would you, would you, would you be the under the hoop rebound or would you just be one for the three point missed rebound? No, I would hang out like on the perimeter and hope for a really ugly miss. Yeah. That would be nice for you. Where are you getting your points though?

You got to get two. I don't think I could do it. If you see me, I'm like five, two. You get to play the whole game though. Yeah. No, I don't think I would probably be able to play. I mean, you're hitting your jewel. You'd probably only get to play five minutes of the game.

If you were playing with other NBA players, maybe you'd have a chance to get one shot up. But like if it was just regular guys, like the hypothetical is so funny. If you're playing an NBA team, you wouldn't be able to get the ball in. Like you wouldn't be able to pet. Maybe you because you're different. But like we wouldn't be able to get the ball inbounded. Yeah, that's true. Right.

Like we would be they'd be on you like right on rice too. Yeah, no, we literally wouldn't be able to pass the ball in with one guy standing in front of us and one guy guarding the other. Yeah, that's a good way to put that's intimidating yourself, I guess. So but in an NHL game, you just try to get into a fight. Yeah, but I've never, I mean, on skates it'd be tough. I think I would just be around the around the blue line waiting for a slap shot. Honestly.

Yeah. Have you ever gotten into a fight in hockey? No, I mean, I stopped playing hockey when I was like eight years old. Okay. But you were really good, right? Like, yeah, I mean, JJ was on Team USA. Derek was on Wisconsin Triple A. I was about to be on.

I had my Wisconsin Triple A jersey in like uniform and then we stopped playing. Is it where your parents are just like, I do not want to get up this really anymore? It was just too much, man. Hockey's a tough sport on the family just because JJ would be out of the country playing hockey at 12 years old. Derek would be in a different state. I would be, it was just pulling the family apart and it was, it got to be too tough. Yeah.

And the, the smell of the hockey bags. Yeah. Is something that parents, no parents have either. It's brutal. It's really bad. Yeah. Do you think that, that the Watt brothers could take the Grunkowskies? Ooh.

Take them where? Like in a fight. Yeah. Yeah. Like Battle Royale. I don't know. There's a whole lot of them. There is four of them.

Five or six of them. Are there five? Four or five? And yeah, five? Five. Five Grunk's. That'd be tough. I don't know.

I don't know, man. Isn't there like a new UFC where they have like five versus five? Like. Oh yeah. Like the Russia they had. Like team fighting? It's crazy. That's the most violent thing I've ever seen.

We need, we need to get two, two, two extra Watt brothers when you guys could join in the, in the fight with us. Yeah. Yes. It's what we're hanging there with you. What's the, what's the one play in your NFL career where you look back and you're like, damn, that was sick? Um, I don't know.

Good question. Thank you. Never, never really. I would think about like, oh man, that was so sick when I did that. Never really thought of it. You had one. I don't, I, the touchdown was cool. We lost the game.

So it's not that cool. I think second time Brady was cool. I think it was second or third year. Second Fitzpatrick fumble recovering the phone. But I don't know. I said, it's still waiting on like a big, a bigger play. I don't, I don't know. It was that touchdown.

And then you don't win the game. It's not really, if you save that game ball, it's like, all right. Yeah. Are you, are you rooting for the Bengals? Or is it one of those things where it's like, they're in our division. I hate them no matter what. Uh, no, I mean, I respect, I respect them for where they are. I mean, they were hurting.

I think only one handful of games two, three years ago. And to be where they are now, it's a great model for the NFL to look at. And they've done some great things and we weren't able to beat them this year, which obviously I'm not happy with, but I'm just rooting for a good game. I think I'll be on a flight during the game. So I don't know if I'll be able to watch. Oh wow. Super Bowl.

If my brother isn't playing it and me or Derek isn't playing it, I, I'd never been to Super Bowl. That'd be the only situation where I actually go, but. Huh. All right. So I had one last, well, I have two last questions. One is, can you at least make sure that Jim Leonard stays at Wisconsin? Was he, he, he was coaching when you were there, right?

I think he, yeah, I think he, that was the year he was the defensive backs coach for one year. Because I played under Dave Miranda, great coach. And then Justin Wilcox, who's also a great coach. And then Jim came in doing crazy things there. Defense is so good. I love him. I actually, cause he was, he was, when I went to Wisconsin, he was playing. So, and he was one of my favorite players, punt returns and all that stuff.

He's like the scrappiest, grittiest dude out there. So you got to, can you at least give money to that? Like, can we just get some money? We need help. This whole, we need help. We need help. I need to visit. I need to go, when I'm back in Wisconsin, I need to go up there and I need to have a conversation.

Do a rah-rah. Yeah. And just throw my name. Be like, we can make some six shirts. Yeah. Free rah-rah. But we make, yeah, like I was talking to big cat. He's like, whenever you need a shirt, we're ready to go.

Gotcha. Gotcha. I can just see it right now, five years from now, when Wisconsin's just won its third national title. It's like how a dynasty was built on the back of cheap t-shirts. We're all holding them up. Yeah. And run the damn ball hats. Love going to Coach Crisp.

Okay. What we need to do is, we don't need to run the ball better. We don't need to play the events better. We need to print some more damn shirts. Yeah, let's print some fucking shirts. I got to say this six-star pre-workout explosion that I took. It's got me on the moon right now. What are you going to do about it?

Attack my day. Yeah, I'm going to. I'm going to attack the hell out of you. You're going to be a what? You're really going to be sitting in a chair, fidgeting all day, or you got to do something with me. I'm going to march directly into Dave Portnoy's office and I'm going to tell him we've got a deal and then I'm going to excuse myself and go work out. There you go.

That's my plan. What my last, last question was, when we were, when we were bullying JJ, like four years ago, five years ago. And we kind of owned you because we bullied your older brother. Yeah, exactly. We kind of became your oldest brother at that point. Wow. Sure, he'll appreciate that.

Were you like, I fucking hate these guys. Did you, did you want to like smack us around? Yeah, for a while there, I was like, I just didn't get the point of it. And I was like, there was none. That's fair. Yeah, like I, totally fair. Totally fair. It was a point where like, it was just like no one talked about it.

Like no one talked about it. We just knew it was there and it was just something that you just expected to be there, but no one talked about it. We tried. I am, I am glad that you guys have a good relationship though. He does, he really does admire you guys and talks highly of you. Yeah, no, I like, it was, it's actually the perfect internet circus. I obviously look back and I'm like, damn, we were kind of dicks, but like getting to know JJ, we were.

Yeah, we were. I mean, we all 100%. We are dicks, but like it's never meant to be truly mean spirited, but and then like, you know, becoming friends with JJ. It's like, JJ is a very, very good guy and he's like, you know, it was, you know, it was like a peak of us being dicks and also when JJ was on his like little Captain America run, where he thought he was like, you know, actually from a Marvel movie. Guys famous, man.

I mean, it's, it's crazy. That's like just walking around with him. I've gone everywhere with him. I've gone over to Europe. I've gone all these Super Bowl weekends, just the lifestyle that he lives and the amount of people that recognize him is crazy. And you like, is it kind of nice that you don't have that level of like, do you get recognized a ton outside of Pittsburgh?

Well, not really. And I like that. I don't, I'm not searching for crazy fame. I like kind of this little life that I have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry for, for basically owning your family there for a little bit there.

Man. We learned a valuable lesson though. Yeah. Was there a moment where you're like, if these guys show up, like they'll probably kick our ass. They'll, you guys would kick our ass. That's correct. That's right. Yes.

That's what I said. I would never cross the line. I said that correctly. I said that correctly. Like, I hope they never come over here. Nerds. They'll kick all of our asses. Hey, BFT and Big Cat are going to beat up all the Watts.

With a pre-workout from six-star. Anything's possible. All right. I have one last, last question. Okay. I have to do this. Jersey Jerry, you got to FaceTime him. He's the biggest TJ Watts fan.

Look at this. Just keep it right by the mic. If he doesn't pick up. That's it. Oh my God. He'll never forgive himself. I told him to. No dishes, nothing.

Oh, no. No, Jerry. Oh my God. I told him. Wow. Is this the new iPhone? Did you tell him the right time zone? Yes.

Oh my God. Crazy. That's bad. All right. Well, maybe we'll get it on the like two minutes before you leave. Yeah. But we can't do anything about that. He was so excited.

He was, well, first he was mad. He was mad. He's like. He's sleeping like Hank was? No. Yes. Seriously. He was like, he's like, you're having TJ one on without me.

It's like, well, Jerry, you're not part of this show. You're also not here. And then he was like, all right, well, I guess you can do it. Like he gave me his approval, but he loves you. He loves you. He rides and dies for you. He's got stats all the time. Just so you know.

He rolls around with stats in his head. Just in case somebody would say to him, I think Aaron Donald is the best defensive player in the NFL. He's like, actually, in the last two years, and he'll show every category that you beat Aaron Donald. He's like, he's constantly defending your name. Yes. He like tries to trick people too.

Unfortunately, he wouldn't even pick up. I know. That sucks. Maybe on your way out. But he tries to trick people all the time. He's like, who do you think is the best defensive player? If you say anything besides CJ Y, he's like, well, that's interesting. That's awesome.

That's awesome. And he just fucking unloads the clip of stats on their face. I saw a couple of his videos. I don't know if the one was at the end of the Raiders game or something. He was all laughing and giggling. He's got some good content. All right.

So that will at least, just that you're aware of him. Yeah. Will make him feel good. He's got the nicest laugh in the world. You can't hate a guy like that. All right. I'm going to try one last time, and then it's over. This is so sad.

You know, after four rings, it ain't happening. Yeah, I know, right? It's, yeah. And I did tell him. I've told him all week. I even said to him yesterday. I was like, hey, reminder, TJ's coming in. Make sure you're ready.

He's probably stuck on like the New Jersey Transit. I hope he's OK. He's going to blow the whole thing up now. Maybe that's where he is. He's stuck on LA traffic. Maybe he's stuck at Clancy's. Went down there for a little dance. All right.

Well, it's over. Sucks for Jerry. All right. Maybe we'll do this. You can just say, shout out Jersey Jerry to the camera and give him a message. We'll just clip that and send it to him. Yeah.

Shout out. Shout out to Jersey Jerry. I hear you're a huge fan. I just want to say thank you for all your support, man. I wish. I really wish you picked up your phone. I hope something more important was there. All right.

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but he had to go do something, not his fault. We'll have him on next week or the week after. It was funny though, the TJ Watt FaceTime with Jersey Jerry. I don't know if we recorded that. We could put it in the end of the interview. I can't remember how it all went down. No, I think he was like outside. Yeah, it was right outside.

Yeah. So as we finished, Jerry finally called me back, and TJ was able to talk to him while Jerry was in his, he was topless. He's coming out of the shower. He's wearing a towel. He had a towel on with one hand, and Jerry did a great job of ingratiating himself into TJ.

I think they made plans to go out and get some dinner together at the end of the phone call, but yeah. Jerry's request. And Jerry was like, me, you, and Pat Friarmouth, we'll go out and get some dinner sometime. Yeah. And TJ was like, sure, yeah. Yeah, cool.

Yeah, okay, yeah, fine, whatever. Can I get out of this room? No, they had a good conversation. It was actually cool to see Jerry's face because he just lit up seeing his hero. It's funny because even though we are in our 30s, we still do have heroes who are 15 years younger than us. Yes.

And this is one of those circumstances. Yes, absolutely. Very, very cool moment, like a make-a-wish moment for Jerry. We got to get him that dinner. All right, let's do some guys on chicks, and we'll send everyone on their way. Reminder, Friday, we got a life episode two, Titus and Rosillo. Um, and then on Monday, no show

because it's present stay back on Wednesday. Bubba. Sup, PMT boys. I have been coerced into running a half marathon in less than two weeks. By far the dumbest thing I've ever done for a boy. And he happens to be a fellow AWL, so I really need to impress him.

Shout out, Brian. He doesn't sound much like an AWL. If his Valentine's Day request was, hey, I'd really like to see you run far. Yeah, and that says, seeing how Big Cat pulled out the 5K so athletically, do you guys have any tips for me? Billy, any supplements I should be taking?

Thanks. Oh, man, this is a, I think you got to end this relationship right now. Unless, this could be a situation where she's like a distance runner, and she has done distance running before, and so he's seeing this as like a date for, if you don't have any experience running long distances, and your boyfriend is asking you to run a half marathon for him,

break up. He sounds like the long distance runner. It sounds like runners date runners. That is, like everyone, like they have to date each other because they go and run together and they do that shit. Like, I don't, I can't think of many relationships where I've seen someone who's like,

there's a runner and then there's someone who doesn't do anything. That doesn't exist. No, and why would you ever go on a date with somebody to a track or to a gym? You're just going to be around people who are in much better shape than you are all the time. Relationship built off fitness. I don't think are built to last.

And in this one, at some point, Yeah. You're going to be out of shape. Well, and then what? You both have to be fitness freaks and then make TikToks together about like meal prep and shit. That's true. RG3 and Greta's TikToks have been pretty late recently.

I think you just got a fake and injury, by the way. Like, this is pretty easy. Yeah, training injury. It's winter. Maybe you slip on some ice coming out of a bar. Like, just do it, do it without any, like, do it in front of him. But it doesn't have to be, you know, some big show.

It just has to be, oh, whoops, I fell down the stairs. Oh, whoops, I fell outside of a bar. Or you can just get registered for a different half mile than he's doing. Go out, buy the bumper sticker that says 13.1. Put it on the back of your car. Be like, yeah, I totally did it. Yeah.

You could hypothetically get hit by a car. Hypothetically. Yeah, uh-huh. I was crossing the street with Bubba on Friday in LA. He started screaming. Well, because I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I'm kind of a ballsy guy when I cross the street. And I sometimes forget I have other people with me.

Sometimes I forget I have people who have been hit by cars with me. So we were, like, halfway through the street, and there was, like, three cars coming. And I was like, Bubba, come on, hurry up. And he didn't get hit again. But I could see in his eyes he was scared. Bubba was complaining for most of the week

about how long the crosswalk signals are there. Like, you have to wait forever to cross it. I wouldn't want to move there just because I'm, like, so impatient. Well, you know, Bubba... It takes, like, five minutes across each street. Bubba likes to really get going. Right.

Across that street sooner rather than later. Right. What? So once every few years, you get fucking mangled by a car? It's worth it. It'll be in New York. Yeah. Hey, Dadcat, PFD, Cometer, and Fu Manchu, Billy.

My boyfriend and I have been dating for four years, and lately he has been growing out his facial hair. However, I don't really love his mustache or beard as they can get quite patchy and itchy. I asked him to shave his face for Valentine's Day, and this led to a conversation about if a girlfriend should be able to ask if when their boyfriend can shave.

You got it? Yeah, dude. Memes pick ones that are way too long. I usually pick the short ones. There's, like, three more paragraphs about, like, nothing. Yeah, I mean... I don't know. Apparently, the girl wants him to shave.

By the way, that's the easiest Valentine's Day gift ever. If this guy fucked that up, he's a moron. Yeah. Just shave. Just shave, and it grows back. Just be like, every time you get waxed, I'll shave. Right. Boom, problem solved.

All right, next one. Been hanging out with this guy for over a month and really like him. Only problem is he started using heart emojis over text in, like, one week. Is this a red flag? Oh, the heart emoji. Now, does that mean I love you or does that just mean, like...

Wait, is it... It's a big question of is it heart emoji or is he, like, pressing the thing and hearting it? Because I become a big... I think at first I thought that was annoying, but then I realized that it's the greatest way to end a conversation, to not reply with words and just heart something or exclamation point something

or thumbs up. Yeah. So if it's that, I'm down with it. But if it's actual heart emoji, that seems weird. Do you ever fuck with the auto replies that Google suggests, too? No.

I do that sometimes. I'll start typing something that are my own thoughts. I'll be like, wait, Google suggests that I just say this instead. Yeah. And I do the same thing on text messages now. Half my vocabulary is now whatever Steve Jobs or Dan Google wrote up in the code and wants me to, like, reply with.

Yes. So to this question, I actually think it's very important, when, who drops the first emoji? Because everyone knows a relationship, whether it be a sexual relationship or a friendship, whatever it may be, the first emoji is important. Because either you're an emoji text or you're not. And you have to figure out that line of,

am I texting with an emoji person or am I not? I don't know. That's a tough one. Heart emoji a weekend feels weird. Yeah. I don't have a problem with it. I think as long as it's reciprocated, it's not weird. But if only one person in the text thread is using emojis,

that's strange. I do the laugh and cry face thing just so I don't have to type. So that's tricky, though, because the laugh and cry face, there are like three different options. There are the laugh and cry face. And I never know which one is appropriate because I don't want to do one that's too much laughing at not that funny of a joke.

Oh, I like to make people feel good. Just cry cry cry. Like a hardcore laugh and cry guy. Yeah, that's like always the top of mind. Yeah. Because I just reply with this. Right. That and the skull.

Oh, you're dead, bro. Yeah, I just text people. So we did this, fam? I'm going to kill you. Hi, big cap, P.F.D. Billion Hank. My guy friend says it's weird that I brought seven pairs of underwear on a three-day trip and that anything more than four pairs is excessive.

Most of my girlfriends do the same as me and subscribe to the what if I shit myself everyday rule of packing. Do guys not follow this rule? And if not, is overpacking like this excessive or no? Do you think girls shit themselves way more than guys do? It's just that we talk about it more?

Yeah. That's a possibility because like every time we do it. Yeah, we talk. We announce. We announce. Yeah, we announce. All right. I as someone who on this recent Super Bowl trip

that was like 10 days long, I ran out of clothes like four days in. So I'm a terrible terrible packer. I either pack way too much or way too little. I never nail it ever. I always I find myself always leaving out one item of clothing. Yep.

So sometimes it'll be socks. I'll pack everything else. I'll be like, oh, shit. I forgot about socks. Forgot socks existed for a week. I like to roll up a bunch underwear and just toss it. I rarely count the amount of underwear they bring, but I can confidently say that I've never in my life

packed double the amount of anything for any road trip. Right. You eyeball it. We eyeball it. Yeah. It's like, all right, I'm gone for five days. I don't know, six, seven, eight, whatever. Sounds good.

I close my eyes. I visualize my ass seven days from now. And then I imagine, do I have anything to put on my ass that day? Yes. And if I don't, then I throw another pair of underwear in there. I also sometimes will do the I'll convince myself like, oh, halfway through, I'll just go to like a laundry mat. Never do.

No. But like, if you go on a long trip and you convince yourself like, oh, I'll be fine. I'll just figure out a way to wash the clothes. No, you don't. You'll just wear dirty clothes. I'm sure the hotel will have laundry. Yeah.

That never works. That's what I did for this last trip. I was like, I'm gone for 10 days. I'll do some laundry at some point. Didn't do that. Just wore dirty clothes for half the time. Yeah, we actually. Yeah, MB did our laundry, which was very close.

Yeah, MB hooked it up with a laundry service after we got done with the drive out there, because I don't think any of us packed. I barely packed enough clothes to get through the driving part of the trip. I wore a Bass Pro Shirt every day. I just bought them all there. That's true.

You look good, though. Real good. Shout out. Sup, Thiccat, PFD, Hank, and Wild Bill. My boyfriend and I have been dating for four years, and we always do something special on Valentine's Day. Nothing fancy, usually a nice dinner and a movie or something.

This year, he said he had a big surprise for me. He made me put on a blindfold as we drove to the restaurant, and when I took it off, we were at McDonald's. He had two land, air, and sea burgers in front of us. I started laughing uncontrollably, but then realized he was being dead serious. He loves McDonald's. Am I an asshole for thinking this was a joke,

and what should I do to make it up to him? Do they have the ball pit and the play place there? Because if that was part of it, then I think he's cool. The ball pit is sick. No, I don't think you should be mad at him. Actually, he's done a great job of somehow convincing you that you're in the wrong for thinking it was a joke. Right.

Like, this guy has you mentally twisted right now. I'm down with this. It was very nice. Thought? Thought? Just, is it not the thought that counts anymore? I think it's like a limited edition, too. Right.

Might be. Right. That's true, the land, air, and sea burgers only could be there for another week. I can't stand this. When people say it's the thought that counts, well, then count the thought. Doesn't matter what the end product is.

He set something up. He did something. You know, it actually is a really good Valentine's Day gift, and it might sound a little bit weird, but if you just go to the store, like a convenience store, and you get the person all their favorite snacks in the world, and you spend maybe like 20 bucks on it, but you get like every single chip that they like,

every single piece of gum, every single candy bar and soda that they like or Gatorade, and you put in a bag for them, that's maybe the best gift ever. That's true. Like doing small things, like taking them to fast food. You got to keep the, you got to keep the small things spicy sometimes.

Yeah. I like this move. Shout this guy. But it is very funny that she's like, should I feel bad about thinking it was a joke? Yeah. No, I think it sounds like you guys had a great time. Yeah.

All right, last one. Hey, fellas, my boyfriend and I's love life is great, but lately he's become addicted to bonking me, that it started to ruin my mood. Yeah. Anytime I try to say something sexy or try something new in bed, he immediately says bonk and starts laughing.

Yesterday I sent him an unsolicited nude and he just replied with bonk. How can I get him to stop? See, this is what we've done as a society with the bonk. We've ruined everything. Not only have we ruined the times when people are actually horny in acceptable places to be horny,

but also when people aren't horny at all, now they're getting bonked left and right. It's a bad problem that we have as a nation. I think it's funny. I don't bonk you anymore. I know. Yeah, also it seems like you can't really get bonked when you're having sex.

Oh, yeah, that's actually what you get. Yeah, that's horny. Yeah. No, no, that's the most bonk-worthy play. Like, oh, your dick is hard. You're going to put this in my vagina, bonk. That is bonk. That's what he's doing to her.

Yeah. He's sending her to horny jail for sending a nude. But that would be to her bonk. That would be the definition of bonk. Yeah, I guess. Like, it seems like that's the appropriate place, though. It's like, I want to sit on your face and he's like bonk. During sex, she's like bonk.

You know what, they should actually, they should make a vibrator that looks like the horny stick for chicks to use on themselves. You're fucking me too hard bonk. You're bonking yourself with a dildo. You know, I think the bonk plays here. I just don't like the bonk at all. I think it's unacceptable.

I think it's sex-shaming. Yeah, we don't sex-shame. And sometimes it's not even sex-shaming. It's just thought-shaming. It's thought-shaming. You're thought-policing me. Yeah, thought-policing. All right.

1984. Numbers? Six. 69. Oh, hell yes, memes. I hope you get it. I'm going to go with 27. I'll go with 22.

And yeah, get excited. Friday's episode is going to be great. Maybe a little less serious than the first one, but just as funny. And then we'll see everyone on the other side of presence day. All right, here we go. Numbers, numbers, numbers, numbers. 27.

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