Pardon My Take - Duncan Robinson and Aidan Hutchinson. Plus, the boys storm the court at Wisconsin

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

Live from Madison fresh off the court storming the guys recap a wild night at the Wisconsin Purdue game. MLB is dead, Jake was wrong(00:02:33-00:19:45). Hot seat cool throne talking Ja Morant, baseball, and the magic of uncrustables(00:19:45-00:44:45).Duncan and Davis Reed talk about the NBA season, Heat Culture, and his podcast(00:44:45-01:16:47). Aidan Hutchinson preps for the combine and the NFL draft(01:16:47-01:38:23). Higher education answers your questions about college life(01:38:23-01:54:05)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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and the Wisconsin Badgers have won the big 10 regular season. Holy shit, we're here. What a night. Who? Hey, you know what? Tonight is one of those nights that and I didn't really have a dog in the fight besides wanting to support big cat. Thank you. And also betting on the Wisconsin Badgers and bucket list and bucket.

But I'm saying like this makes me realize and appreciate how much ass live sports kick. Yes, they kick tremendous ass. Now, for people who aren't on social media, who maybe don't follow us on social media, we actually didn't talk about this on Sunday. We're in Madison, Wisconsin right now. My alma mater.

We went. We came here this morning. I showed the boys the town. We went to the game. The Badgers rolled out the red carpet for us. We had a perfect setup. We're in the basketball offices right now. We're front row of the student section. The Badgers win the game.

Beat Purdue win the Big Ten championship or a regular season title. We stormed the court. Holy shit. What a night. Like pretty much like what like people people go to go. What do you say? Oh, our paint or paint or paint our titties. I think I might be a chest paint guy from now on. Big Cat had two basketballs on his tits and you want to say a joke. You want to say a joke that someone said that was very funny

that you were dribbling without using your hands. They were bouncing there. They were bouncing a little bit. There was a lot of air. Tom Brady has not been here since that's one of those ones where you got to just tip your cap to the internet like partially. My I'd hurt my feelings a little bit because I know I'm very overweight and I have like a solid like B maybe C cup.

But I also am like, dude, fair play. Like that was very funny. Marty Mursh had Johnny Davis 316 on his chest. Yeah. And you had an unbelievable badger. I was a badger. Bubba painted my chest in a very realistic way. It was so realistic, actually, when when Bucky saw it, he tried to attack me. It was so realistic.

I FaceTime my family before like it's six o'clock at night and I showed my son your chest and he yelled Bucky so that it was every test. Bubba did a great job. It was so much fun. Actually, I'm without chest paint now. It all rubbed off after we stormed the court. I got nothing. All my some poor people were out there on the court tonight and they went home with just the remnants of my chest badger all over them.

It was fun. I have to imagine this is a night, big cat, where like if you were in college, oh, imagine, imagine you're a senior in college at Wisconsin. If you had died and went to heaven tonight is probably pretty close to that simulation. Yes. And it's it's honestly like we are very, very lucky to have been here tonight because think about it. You could go to college, you go to a power five college, you go four years and never have a moment like this.

You know what I mean? Like I never stormed a court when I was in college. I stormed a field, but like there's many schools that never have. We came here, we like swooped in and got to live like the greatest existence for one night. They actually they got big cat up on stage to give a speech after the game with the team. They gave me the trophy. I'm wearing the hat in the in the they threw me a big 10 title hat

and a big 10 title shirt and they're like, come up on stage. Actually, they didn't say come up on stage. The announcer said, big cat, you're somewhere out there. We need you again on Sunday against Nebraska. And I heard him say, we need you. And I just started walking up to the stage. And then once I got up there, they're like, well, you might as well give a speech. Well, before before the game started, big cat got invited up to the DJ booth

to give up the pump up speech. And we were sitting backstage kind of brainstorming what he was going to say and came to the conclusion like, OK, swearing is probably out of the picture. Probably should not do that. So you get up on stage after the game's over. They give you the mic for one sentence. And what do you say? I said, you guys fucking rule.

I figured the kids are gone. Like any kids that are still here, like their parents, if you if you're a parent of a small child and it's 10 30 at night, swearing is OK. And also you have to teach your kids that there are no inappropriate words, just inappropriate times to use them. Yes, I feel like winning a big 10 championship on your home court against a higher ranked team. Yes.

As underdogs, you're allowed to drop a hard af. And it was it was an insane game. It was back and forth like awesome game. Who's back bank shots? Bank shots. People will cry because Wisconsin is lucky. I don't care. They want like they were supposed to not be in the bracket this year, according to some experts. I just. Oh, did you stop?

I just had to note that. Oh, I wasn't. I didn't even know you were here, Jake. Shit. I didn't know Jake was right here. I'm sorry. Yeah, I was wrong. How funny is it, though, to think about this for a second? We were sitting in Hoboken in like early November after watching all day of football, sitting there having to, you know, like do a podcast

at one in the morning. And at the end of the show, you're like, my first bracket came out. Wisconsin's not in the tournament. And now we're sitting here in the Coles Center and they're a two seed, probably a two seed, at least a three seed. I don't want to be a one seed. That's too much pressure. Well, how many quad one wins do you have?

A lot. Probably 10. A lot. Stack and racks on racks of quad ones. Yeah, I apologize. Some people think I'm the only person in the world who didn't have them in. Don't point to finger. It's you. It's me. You're the only person I know personally. Jake, that's true. That's true.

What what lesson did you learn? I learned that I was meant to be a play by play guide where you don't have to make predictions. No, I don't say that. No, Jake, because you weren't making a prediction, you were just going to bracket out as it stood. Yes, that's true. Take some chances, Jake.

Also, I'm just going to I'm going to preemptively say this because I know there's a lot of people who don't like how lucky Wisconsin is. Very similar province to me. I gave this speech on Sunday. But if you're someone who's sitting at home and being like, well, they're going to lose in the tournament. Well, 67 teams are going to lose in the tournament. I'm going to enjoy the fuck out of this night.

I don't care. Sports are about the journey. This was an awesome night. This season has been an awesome season. This team is like, I think they think I'm on the team now. I think Greg Guard looked at me and was like, can you give me some fowls? Because they were just fucking throwing me up there and I do. I did not fit in with my.

What are you going to say, Hank? Oh, yeah, T shirt was a lot of fun. I've never felt more like God than when I had the T shirt cannon. That thing goes, dude, it not only goes, but it also is on this pivoting thing, which rotates you 360 degrees as you're firing. You looked like you were in charge of a tank. It was so awesome. And so while you were doing that, Marty and I were chucking T shirts

with our bare hands, old school style up into the stands. Hot dog in it. And we both threw out our arms like our arms are fucking dead right now. I think I actually broke something in my wrist throwing those T shirts. Oh, man. It was it was a hell of a night. I the the Chuckie Hepburn bank shot was ridiculous. I mean, the final like 12 seconds, the fact that Jay and Ivy hit the three

and Greg Guard didn't call time out and was like, OK, I guess we're just going for this. Hits the hits the bank shot three. Who else? Oh, Johnny D. Bank shot three. There was a bank shot that makes very people very mass. There was a lot of people very mad. So it was loud in there, but I heard and call it. Yeah, I did, too. I mean, it was if you watch it back, he he called it was correct.

He called it. It was the big fundamental. It was the age right out. Tim Duncan's playable. Yes. He just fucking bank shot three to then the I actually wouldn't be surprised if if Wisconsin wins the Natty this year. No, no, let's don't do this to me. Let me have tonight. No, no, no, no, I'm not saying like I'm not going to be surprised if they win the Natty.

I'm saying if they do win the Natty, if Big Cat gets a ring, that's that's how much he seemed like he was part of the team afterwards. I want to be honest with you. We were watching the scoreboard after the game was over and after the court storming was over. And when they're doing the presentation, they've got everybody on stage. I was not surprised when the guy was like, let's get big cat up here. I was like, yeah, that makes sense.

I mean, they threw me a hat in a shirt like instantly before half the team had one. I also I got to say college kids like I forget how much energy college kids have because one, my my feet are dead. Like we stood the whole game. I want to like sit in a fucking Epsom salt bath for the rest of the night. Two, and we have this on video. I'm sure you had a similar experience, PFT. We stormed the court, which was awesome, like so much fun.

Dancing, mosh pit, maybe three minutes into storming the court. I was like, I need to get out of here. I'm going to die in here because I can't. I have no ability to like stand anymore. I'm so sweaty. I'm so tired. I'm so out of shape. Like I think that I looked at Jake and I was tapping my head for the oxygen. And he was like, I can't do anything.

It's funny because a lot of colleges are like, you know what? We don't want the kids to storm the court. Things could get dangerous here. They're like, you know what? We're going to play Mo Bamba followed by turned down for what? Hopefully that'll hopefully that'll clear the court off a little bit. Every time they hit me, I was like, no, yeah, because you had to dance to it. Play the country music. Let me get out of here.

It was yeah, what a fucking night. You guys enjoy Madison. Unbelievable. It's a great sports town. I would say Rena is probably the nicest college venue. It's a real arena. It's like a real it could be an NBA arena. It really felt like it.

Yeah, it was it was a hell of a night. Can we get can we get Marty over here for a sec? Because I want to hear from Marty. He's a noted Wisconsin hater. He was actually the best was after the game. So we're I got I was like it was one of those situations where I was like getting like basically ushered around with the team. It was very similar to the Blackhawks when Patrick Sharpe like was like, no,

you're coming with us. I was like, wait, no, I shouldn't be here. They were just like like pushing me around everywhere. And I ended up in the back tunnel by the locker room. And Joe Krabbenhoff of shout out, Joe Krabbenhoff fucking loved him as a badger assistant coach of Joanne Howard face smushing fame. Just walked up to Marty, he goes, you were in fucking Rutgers gear three days ago. Right at Marty's face. No, the Wisconsin hater, Marty, much.

You think about smushing him? Yeah, I was thinking about. No, Joe would have smushed you. Joe's a fucking tough dude. I was on the court like storming it and some girl looked at me with style and goes, you shouldn't fucking be. And I was like, I'm sorry, I'm I'm very viable, but no, Joe. Thank you for letting me fucking unbelievable.

OK, so are you believing us a little bit? I believe in you a little bit. OK, I mean, the wall is unbelievable. He was dude, his post moves against Edie, who's like twice his size were incredible. Edie's a freak. He really is. And nicely take a shit. I have winning enormous when he moves.

It looks like he has to like tell each individual part of his body to move. He's that big. He's like, OK, pick up the right leg. He's like one of those guys that's got like a robot. He's a robot body with like a little man inside of him pulling all the levers. Yes, he's like one. Yeah. Oh, I wanted to tell you, too. Marty knows how the Badgers won this game.

It was one thing and one thing only. Do you want to say the little kid? It was the little kid. I don't think anyone else caught it besides me and Marty. And I think Jake helped a little, too. The little kid was like looking around like there's a rip up the newspaper. Yeah, there's there were two little kids sitting in front of us that were doing. I think they were doing the floor.

They were like cleaning it and they were maybe like six, seven years old. And one of them would go ahead and one. The kid just wanted a Johnny Davis one. We could not find it for what a piece of paper. Just the newspaper with Johnny Davis's face on it couldn't find it. The game's going on. Big guy is not watching. It's like, I need to find this kid.

We're going to lose because it was going on a run. I was like, if we don't find this Johnny Davis thing, we're going to lose this game and then we found it and it literally flipped all the momentum. It went on a run. So shout out to you knew, right? I literally turned to Marty. I was like, if we don't find a fucking picture of Johnny Davis, just a little kid, we're going to lose this game.

We're starting to get mad. Yeah, where the fuck is that the same kid that when Bucky came by? He took my shirt. And yes, yes, I was shirtless naturally. But you need a shirt to be presentable in certain environments, like going up into the level that we're up at half time. And then after the game, I figure I would need a shirt to walk around. And Bucky, the Badger just came by, picked my shirt up off the ground

and then gave it to that little kid. And I'm like, fuck, yeah, how do I get my shirt back from a child? And I just took it. Yeah, I just took it back. I like it. It's a dad thing now, like where I see a little kid. I'm like, all right, this could be my son. I'm just going to take this shirt back.

What a night, though. What a night. It was so, so much fun. And also shout out to the student section. Like I know that like we're at a certain level in terms of success. And everything, but it's still very humbling to show up and have like fat head pictures and people going crazy. Like the student section was incredible all night.

So loud, so welcoming to us. Not only do they have a bunch of energy, but you forget if you're not around college students, you forget how young they look. Yes, I think they're younger. I think that there's a bunch of like 16 and 17 year old overachievers going to Wisconsin because they looked they were a lot of baby faces. Yeah, but then I look back and I'm like, oh, shit, I used to be young. Yeah.

And like the one woman asked me in the hallway. She's like, how long ago did you graduate? I was like 15 years. She's like, oh, and I was like, oh, fuck dude. She, Marty was there for that. She literally was just like, oh, damn it. But yeah, thank you guys for coming too, because this, this whole thing came together on Sunday night.

We're literally sitting in the office. And I was like, I think I want to go to this game. Do you guys want to come with me? And like, and you guys are like, yeah, let's fucking go. And now we're going to Indy. We're going to be in Indy for the combine. So we made a double trip out of it, but I appreciate you guys coming because it would not have been as fun if it was just me and my phone

and just like running around. It was a blast. Yeah, that was a lot of fun. Anything else? I love live sports. The best. Oh, hey, you know what? Crowds are back. Crowds are back.

So what are you going to say? Did you have inspiration for the basketball titties? No, I mean, I just know my, my breasts are large and that's unprecedented move. Yeah. I mean, they look like basketballs. If you, if you, and Liam really was an incredible artist. I just knew like, listen, I'm in it for the content. Like you can't, you can say a lot of things about me, but I don't,

I don't put out for the, I put out for the people. I do. And let me just say this, Liam can back me up. The cheerleaders were fucking digging it. Liam, back me up. Dude, they kept on coming over at one point. They came over and they asked for a picture. I was like, yeah, do you have a camera?

They're like, no. And I was like, okay. And then they came back and they're like, we had a camera now and they were giving me, I think there's something to be said about, like, there's a lot of fucking little skinny college boys. And then the big boys come around and it's like, we got me and my tits and like my barrel chest. PFT's got a lot of hair.

Like they saw some real men and they were like, whoa, this is different. Dadbots are back. Yeah, this is different. I don't, I haven't seen this and I was like, yeah, there's a lot here. I also was just like gyrating and like rubbing my belly. Oh, also shout out to ESPN for putting a directive out there to not show us on camera at all. That was their, it was their instruction to not put us on television.

No joke. So if you did see us on TV, it was purely by accident. Yes. They, we, I, there was a camera guy sitting in front of us. I was like, why don't you show us? He's like, we're not allowed to. I was like, are you working for ESPN? He's like, yeah.

I was like, okay, cool. Well, that's, that's, I guess this, this little petty war continues, but fuck it. We had the best coverage of the night and also shout out Ronan Kaleb. Two for two, unbelievable. They, they stormed a court in a TCU tonight. So it's, it's court storm. This is March.

Yup. There's nothing that best time of the year. Oh, last thing is, uh, we taped the rest of the podcast earlier today and we were just like way wrong about MLB. So yeah, baseball's done. MLB has canceled, they've canceled the first two series of the season so far. Yeah, I saw that one of the reasons why they're held up in the negotiations is because one of the owners wants bigger bases this season.

He wants to increase the size of the base. I love it. I love it. Oh man. What a night. And then, uh, yeah, we're off to Indy. Well, Friday will be another great show. We got a recurring guest, long time recurring guest that we have back

and forth with all the time. He hasn't been on the show for a while. Salt. Salt. All right, let's go to hot seat, cool throne. And, uh, Duncan Robinson, which was awesome reminder, Duncan Robinson part two. We kept on taping with those guys. We'll be on their podcast, uh, which is the long shot with Duncan Robinson

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Use code pardon 20 for $20 off your next pair of shades. Okay. Hot seat, cool throne, Henry. The big, the big man. I got a cool throne. The big man. Hot seat. Yeah, big suit.

Hey, suit man. I got a cool throne. What's up, Hank? Big boss man, Hank, vice president. Yep. My cool throne. We did it, Joe. We did it, Hank.

Bob Nightingale. Wait, what's your hot seat? What? Your hot seat? What? Your hot seat is Hank because he's a suit. Hank is a big time suit. Hank went corporate on us.

Mm hmm. Cor, this is my favorite storyline. When corporate Kane is corporate Hank, he's going to come in a suit. Suits. Yeah. My hot seat is Jacob Portal. Performance reviews. Oh, well, that.

Okay. Yep. He got dunked on bad. What happened? Yeah. You got it. Why are you laughing? Yacob Pirtle.

That's worth it. Sorry. That wasn't just, that was a whole. All right. That was a whole, that was like a, you're, you're getting, you know, you have a beater of a car and you get hit from behind and you bring it in. They're like, it's totaled. I'm like, that whole name was totaled.

You know, you know what's happened? Jake flinched. I saw him out of the corner of my eyes and said, you know, you know what's happening is Hank came in today thinking he was the big suit, but he ran into the OG suit. Jake Marsh had to put him back in place real quick. He totaled the name. Say it again, Hank, the way you said it.

Jacob. I mean, it's five say it again. We've learned on the show. I am a phonetic reader. Jacob Portal. And what was it? I've heard, I've said, I might be wrong. No, no, stop.

Double sportsmanship. I said Yacob Pirtle here. I'm seeing Yacob Pottle. Okay. Either way, I was close. He told the name. Okay. Good hot seat.

John Moran dunked on him though. Yeah. John Moran doing John Moran things. Just hot seat city. That was maybe the best 30 seconds of individual basketball I've ever seen in my life. And the end of quarter play when Steven Adams threw it full court and there was like a point five seconds

left and he. Yeah, it was it was nuts. And I mean, this was going to be my cool throne, but let's just talk about it right now. There's it's now trending towards like Zion Williamson, John Moran being one of the most embarrassing. Like it's it, you know what it is, it's become the Greg Oden, Kevin Durant.

Yeah, like Zion, obviously, I still think he'll be okay. But he we have not heard from him. He they were roasting him on Mardi Gras. You see that they had a huge fat guy and just like he was eating jambalaya and with a walking boot on, which was very funny. I mean, I'm going to say something controversial. I think that Zion Williamson is a better player when he's fat. I want him to get fatter.

Well, in fact, well, he doesn't play right now. He's a better player needs to get fatter. Yeah, he just needs to get so fat that they roll him out there. But yeah, John Moran is that fucking good. Like he is absolutely electric. The Grizzlies are awesome. Fifty burger last night. Fifty burger and he's like he is must watch TV.

And then Zion is just doesn't exist anymore. And it hurts that Zion was the like in that draft class. Obviously, John Moran went to a smaller school, but Zion. Remember Zion's Duke year? It was must watch TV. Yeah, he was like, holy shit, incredible. I also think that John Moran has become maybe the most likable player, the most likable youngster in the

game. We've got to have him back on. Yeah, I forgot that he's a recurring guest part of my take. Yeah, his dad roasts him. Actually, I want to have his dad on the show. That too. That's what we should do is get John Moran's dad on the show. Mr. Moran, please come on the podcast to just berate your son, because right now he's playing so well that he's probably going to big head. Yeah.

They need you to come over the top and be like, hey, man, you stink. You want to score 60, not 50. OK, Hank, then my cool throne is Bob Nightingale. Huge night for him. Huge night. I feel like he's kind of the laughing stock of the MLB big J. Journos. He's the classic like he's the Mike Kerry of Big J. It's because he's got that profile picture.

His avatar on Twitter is just it's always laugh out loud when you see it because he looks like an assistant principal in middle school, like the one that tries to be fun. Well, and and also there's a dying breed in sports journalism. There's nothing quite like a baseball journalist. And Jeff Passon has kind of ruined it. And I'm saying this is a compliment to Jeff. We'd like to have him on at some point, but he is kind of like the cool new guy.

He gets it. We need more Bob Nightingale's John Heyman, like the guys who just don't get it. And they tweet and they are like Peter Gammons. Remember when he was just every like three weeks, he would just tweet out of his pocket. We just sit down. Numbers. Yeah, I'd sit down like the word.

The letter F would just fill up the screen and he'd hit tweet on it. But I miss that. I like we need Bob Nightingale. I like Bob Nightingale because it does serve a purpose in the ecosystem. Right. He's one of the old school guys. Like if you open up one of his veins, just Diet Coke comes. Uh huh. Yeah. So what happened? So last night, MLB talked.

It seemed like they said the deadline was today. And then last night at the 11th hour is probably what? 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock. He put out a tweet that said the two sides have appeared to have reached a compromise on the 12 team postseason, which was a big point of contention. This is a 10 41. And then that was kind of the waterfall for everyone being like, Oh, it looks like things are happening.

Things are happening. Things are happening. Although I will say I just pulled up his profile to find the tweets from last night. And he just recently said, where is it? Pulled up MLB believes that talks have gone backwards today. Oh, no. So there's been a material. There was there was a point though where everyone was like, oh, my God, Bob Nightingale.

Finally, this is his moment. He's done it. He finally, you know, broke news. That's correct. And actually, this was 30 minutes ago, so I didn't even see this yet. And it seemed like today, yeah, they were figuring out a deal. They did it. They moved back the deadline a few hours and there it was just a matter of time

before, you know, they officially figured out a deal. But now MLB believes the talks have gone backwards. I think all that happened was they, the players realized that they have like a great superpower where they can keep all the owners up past 9 p.m. Like Hal Steinbrenner is like Hal Steinbrenner is calling it a night at 11 o'clock. He probably was gassed. So they just keep him up late enough. They get loopy.

They start making deals that they don't want to make. And then they woke up today and they're like, wait, we don't want to do any of this. We're billionaires. By the time this podcast drops, there will probably have been a decision made or will there not? I would say either or. I think that there's definitely either going to be a decision made or they still might have some work to do closing the gap.

My sources. Yeah, my sources are saying a deal will be made. Eventually. I. So what I'm hearing and this is serious because I have actually been in touch with people on the ground there. No, straight up. Yeah, here's what's going on right now. Bagel guy, the guy handing out bagels.

Yeah, yeah, here's what's going on right now. They're nearing a deal. They're almost at a deal, but there still remains a couple issues with the side. The two sides are far apart. OK, so I was actually talking. I wasn't talking to someone who was on the ground. I was talking to someone who's close to someone who's on the ground, close to the ground. And yeah, because he wasn't there, but he has sources there.

And he said that the next 24 hours will be very telling in the future of baseball. That was all he wanted to divulge because both sides correct. Still have some issues that they're working. Correct. Yeah. Correct. So that's our question. I have a question for Hank. Our informed prediction. What is the 11th hour?

When you say the 11th hour, I'm just curious, because I always hear that phrase, but I don't know what it means. It's like 11 o'clock. That's the 11th hour. What's the clock? Midnight. I guess you have to midnight. Wouldn't it be the 20?

Are we doing military time? 24 hour. Yes, so that should be 02300. Right. I think it goes back to, you know, Big Ben. You think there's anyone in Ukraine who's like, like still following like, I hope baseball season starts for sure. Are you kidding me?

Bob Nightingale, get your shit together, bro. I want to talk to that guy. Probably not. They got bigger things to worry about. You're a cool throne. That was my cool. OK, that was your cool throne. All right, good job.

Thank you very much, Hank. Good job, Mr. Vice President, PFT. My hot seat is the Hugh Jackson Foundation. Yeah, Hugh Jackson Foundation firmly on the hot seat. He is the coach at Grambling, and he hired Art Pryles from Baylor, the former Baylor head coach to be their new offensive coordinator. A lot of people got upset about that, including Grambling Quarterback. The former guy, Doug Williams, also former Redskins Quarterback,

won a Super Bowl. Yeah, one guy didn't get upset. One guy didn't get upset. Yeah. Yes. Our very own Ben Mints. Oh, OK. He congratulated Art Pryles. He was happy about it. He said great get.

OK, so so a lot of people got upset about it. And then they ended up dismissing or coming to mutual understanding that Art Pryles would leave. But not before Hugh Jackson, I should say, excuse me, his foundation, totally separate from Hugh Jackson himself, tweeted out his support for Art Pryles. And then everybody was like, wait a second. Why is there a Hugh Jackson Foundation?

Nobody really knew that Hugh Jackson had a foundation until he tweeted out an official statement using their letterhead, not Grambling's letterhead about the hire. And then people looked into it and Dan Murphy from ESPN found out the Hugh Jackson Foundation collected one hundred fifty eight thousand dollars in 2019. It paid out one hundred fifteen thousand to its only paid employee and then spent fifteen grand on travel.

So they gave out the foundation gave out four thousand dollars in grants out of one hundred fifty eight thousand. That's a lot of money. But then Hugh Jackson came over the top also tweeting from his foundation saying what you failed to report is where that money came from. Hugh Jackson was the largest donor and he personally donated over seventy five percent of the funds.

So Hugh Jackson, it seems, is is funding. No, that's that's that's and that's that foundation. So now they're looking into it. And yeah, that's tax fraud because I know exactly what he's doing. He's giving money to a foundation that you can write off and then paying probably his wife and then giving four thousand dollars away. You might think something like that is going on big cap. But I personally think Hugh Jackson does need a foundation.

How how does a guy who has Hugh Jackson's track record as a head coach like you would expect that that guy would need some charity every now and again. What a perfect Hugh Jackson story, though, to be like, all right, I want to distance myself from my own stupidity of hiring our braille. So I'm going to have my foundation tweet this out. And then someone looks into the foundation and they're like, Oh, tax fraud. Yeah, Stu Jackson is sideshow Bob stepping into race. He's actually went over over two on this.

Yeah. Yeah. So he's in a lot of trouble probably moving forward. That was probably like a look like a maybe a taste of his foundation, his foundation is in trouble. Or he'll take it back. You know what? Yeah, he should just kind of rebrand it. Just call it the the Hugh Jay foundation. This might be a time to bring back the Hugh Jackson intro of Hot Sea Cool Throne.

We had a few years ago. Oh, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. Hugh Jackson had a drop on this podcast. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, get Hugh Jackson back in the NFL. He was hilarious. Yeah, for cameo. He got him on my cameo. My cool throne is uncrustables. I had my first uncrustable today in the airport and I've been on cloud nine ever since.

I don't know how I went my entire life without having one. They're great. I feel like uncrustables really came out maybe after I left the house. Correct. Like after I graduated from high school, went to college. I would assume that graduated from college work for a few years. Yeah, no, they're they're very they're within the last 10 the last decade, I want to say, right? Maybe 15. Jake, can you look up when it when uncrustables were invented on it?

Yeah, thank you. But they're fucking awesome. Oh, yeah. They're really good. It was one of those things where I took you out of the package and I just admired it for a second. And then you bite into it and you can tell that it was designed in a lab by like the flavor scientists. And it doesn't taste like anything that you'd find in nature,

but it's fucking amazing. Well, it also is great because it's the peanut butter and jelly with like extra sugar. Yeah. Oh, that's what they've done. Where it's like, hey, this is just a nice, nice good snack. It's good for you. It's like, no, no, that that is a candy bar. And I'm fine with that. Jake, you got it. 1995 in Fargo, North Dakota. Oh, wow. Yeah, I guess my family was just poor.

Well, no, poor. No, that would be. I feel like uncrustables are rich kids. Do you think so? Yeah, I think. Yeah, you go over to your rich kids. You like and they have a friend's possible. Yeah, we don't even need video games. And they're just like they're the mom walks in the kitchen. She's like, let me cook you a snack and she just throws you an uncrustable. Yeah, like we don't we don't even fuck with the corner edges of bread.

Yeah. Well, I'm telling you what, I'm done with I'm done with crust. I can't go back. I. Yeah, I have not had more than maybe a half dozen uncrustables. All's an adult, too. So I don't think I think you're right. I don't think it was big when it wasn't big. I think that's what it was. I would love to just get stoned out of my mind and eat 20 uncrustables.

That sounds like the best time you make that sound like it's an unantainable goal. That's like Billy risking it all. Yeah, you can do that. You're going to do that probably on Friday night. I'll do it on a live stream. I like my dream in life. It sounds like it honestly sounds like the best time ever. Like put on a movie, watch for it all. Watch Avatar, need a gravity bomb, need some milk, some water, too.

Maybe put milk in the bomb. Oh, that's they have grilled cheese uncrustables, not as popular. What grilled cheese uncrustables? Oh, yeah, I want a little bit of crust and grilled cheese because it's like a little texture in there. Yeah, but yeah, uncrustables fuck. Yeah, absolutely. Very my mind today. Yeah, my other cool throne was empathy.

And we've been talking a lot on this podcast about empathy and impacts. We are welcoming a brand new member to our collective here of empaths. And I'm a can sue. That's right. No, an empath and Donna can sue said today online. He was like, you know, what the world needs now is more empathy. Empathy is really going to cause a lot of changes in this world. So thank you, and I'm going to sue for stepping out and showing us how empathetic you are. Yes.

All right, my hot seat is the Arizona Cardinals because Kyler Murray has issued a long statement from his agent, which was it really was a test of like how bad all of our collective attention spans have gotten because I saw it and I did. I skimmed it. It was maybe 300 words and I was like, nope, too long. I think it was more than that. I think it was like five or six hundred.

But it was you saw it right away. You're like, whoa, yeah, I read chill out, dude. I read the first sentence and then I just my eyes went down to the end and his God awful logo. Apparently Kyler Murray has a logo. What what is Kyler Murray? It's very bizarre that he released this statement after a like debacle of a first round exit. And this whole like we've turned around the Arizona Cardinals franchise.

They've had one winning season and Kyler Murray has a lot of weapons and a lot of help. They traded for Deandre Hopkins. They traded for Zach Earths in the middle of the season. He has like it when healthy, they trade for it. They got AJ Green, like they went healthy. I would say the Cardinals have done the like probably top five in terms of going all in to help their quarterback.

Yeah, again, he's just he leads the league in nonsense. There's so much nonsense that this guy puts out. I don't I don't know what he's really asking for because his two demands. It's money. It was his two demands. He's trying to act like the media is twisting his words and turning people against him. But his demands are I want to be extremely highly paid and I want to win a Super Bowl. Yes, these are my demands. Yeah, it's like, OK, yeah, ideally, I think every player in the NFL would also like that.

Yeah, it's it's wild. I don't know how this I mean, yeah, they're going to pay him. And then he's going to be upset and he's going to be more upset and they're not going to win. He's going to be more upset. And then he's going to I feel like when he's like 28, he's going to be like, I'm going to go play baseball. He's just he's an emo kid. Yeah, that's what the problem is.

Yeah, he's probably got different generation. Different gauge earrings all the time. Listen to dashboard. My cool drone was John Morant, but I'll throw an extra hot seat in there. Skip Bayless, because LeBron James went after writer. I think Lakers beat writer Bill Orham for misquoting him. And every time LeBron rose a journalist, I always think like how mad Skip Bayless must be because he's just been looking for acknowledgement by LeBron

for pretty much the last 15 years. And LeBron will then like pick, you know, not. I'm sure Bill Orham's a good journalist. I'm saying the lowest man on the total poll in terms of least visibility and go after him instead of going after a big dog like Skip Bayless. It's not that he's the lowest man. It's just that I think LeBron is afraid of Skip. Correct. And deservedly so.

But Skip's got to be like, what do I got to do at this point? I'm going to push back on that. I don't I don't think that Skip wants LeBron to respond now. I think it's gone so long. Oh, he wants to come on that. No, he knows he knows that he is dominant way over LeBron. Are you telling me that Skip Bayless doesn't want LeBron James to come on his show and debate him?

I think it's better. Absolutely. I think it's better if LeBron continues to be afraid of him. Right now, Skip can be like LeBron knows that I'm the alpha in this relationship. LeBron, because he goes out there and plays basketball. And then I talk about him playing basketball. Skip debating LeBron about LeBron, the greatest thing ever. He that like he he probably he probably prays and has Ernestine pray every single night for LeBron to accept his debate invitation.

Only on weekends when he puts the beds together. Could you imagine if they literally if LeBron debated Skip Bayless about LeBron's legacy with Skip Bayless? I see. I think it's I think it's a bad idea for LeBron, because Skip would. Oh, no, he won't know. That's what I'm saying. That's why Skip would love it. He would he would come in. Skip knows LeBron better than LeBron.

Yes, I think at the end of the day, LeBron would leave and he'd be like, what just happened? You know what? Jordan's the goat. Yeah. What what just happened to me? Yeah, I'm not. Did I really score eight points against the Mavericks and came for whatever? This man is right. I don't want to shoot foul shots at the end of playoff games. Oh, man, I am LeFraud.

You have to like go to therapy. He'd start tweeting out like my recipe for a Mickey mouse ring. Yes, yes. Skip's right. The entire world gets COVID. We go to Disney World for a month. Oh, man. All right, Jake, your hot seat, cool drone. My hot seat are linebackers. We've got a reminder in my phone, December 17th episode.

Chiefs, chargers, there is an e-cap. You guys said you are boycotting linebackers at the combine. No, no, not correct. We were we were threatening to boycott the linebacker work out at the combine. If if the NFL fucked over Cleveland. That's right, because they were trying to fuck over the Browns. They didn't. We took we we lift our sanctions. Yeah, we lifted our sanctions on Godel.

I think the sanctions work. We applied pressure. Yep. All right. Sanctions are hot in the streets right now. That's fair. You want to if you want to get results, you sanction. Mm-hmm. That's how you do it. We start sanctioning random people. OK, let's sanction Billy from drinking water. He just drink beer.

Yeah, he actually got backfire on us. That would backfire. My cool throne are people who hate dark Jeter. Oh, yeah. Step down as CEO of the Miami Marlins. You what was the can you can you answer this for me, Jake? What was the deal with the cones at his they combed off his parking spot at the practice facility

when he stepped down as if like they were going to keep him from coming back or so. I don't know what it was. They come in very bizarre. That was there. We have like their Jeter parking spot. Is that like how they change the locks on the door if they fire somebody?

It was very weird. I don't the Marlins are just a bizarre organization. Actually, Jake, you know what you should do? Yeah, I see the cones. Yeah, what doesn't really look like a big barrier? I know. What were they doing? Was it an homage? It was smart credit to Derek Jeter, like to step down

when baseball is like having its intense labor negotiations and baseball is being threatened. No one's like that wasn't a headline anyone remembers. I have a statement from from the number one's Marlins. Yeah, I was going to ask about that because he texts me. Oh, you have the guy. Remember, he tried to pay off Derek Jeter. He tried to give him a blank check.

I am very upset period. Jeter wasn't Moses period. Jeter didn't deliver from the bondage, the oppressed Marlins fan period. We believed in his religion. We believed in Project Wolverine. We trusted Jeter's process. Jeter failed.

Wow. Wait, wait, did I miss? Project Wolverine is because he was he would have gone to Michigan. Did I miss out on there's more? Holy shit, I didn't go to Michigan, right? He never played baseball in college. I think he would have gone to me. It's like born in Kalamazoo would have gone to Duke. Project Wolverine.

This is actually a great point points to Jake for people that hate Derek Jeter, me being one of them. This is this is the earlier message from Marlins, man, losing team, losing money. Fans hate him, never made playoffs, traded away or let go. Stanton, Yellowitch, Ozuna, Real Moto, Gordon, Deertrich, Itchero, alienated fans, laughing soccer baseball, light and court, pleading that not a Florida corporation. Why would I not go shooting me?

Long term deal. Did away with orange. Oh, this is the big one. Did away with orange after wearing it every single spring training day. That was a big still. I am too fast. Every superhero needs a villain. Plus what direction is Marlins going?

What that Jeter can't agree with? A winning team, exciting, full stadium, playoff team, World Series Championship, a 100 percent total failure. What employer keeps someone running the company like that? You know, so he's taking off to NYC now. Is Jeter the is Jeter the superhero and he's the villain? Yeah, no, I think what we have to like Marlins man should just run the Marlins. Yeah, there's no better man for the job.

They would definitely have those orange jerseys back. Yeah, they'd be back. The Mermaids would be back. He'd make he would make the entire team sit with him in between innings instead of the dugout, build the entire stadium out of that goofy Marlins sculpture that was in center field. They used to circle around that was also fucked up there. Jeter took it out was fucked up. I you know what? I agree with Marlins, man.

Yeah, I think Jeter fucked up the Marlins on purpose. Mm hmm. Agreed. Sanction. Good statement. Consider Jeter to be sanctioned by Marlins. He is in sanctioned by us by this. He sent you the same exact message. Yes, I got the same text. We will not have Derek Jeter on this podcast.

Sanctioned. Damn. Done. Yeah, you heard it. That was my AM screen name. Jake Jeter, too. Jake Jeter, too. Yeah, respect. That is mad respect. Yeah, mad respect.

All right, let's get to our interviews. We've got two great interviews. We've got Duncan Robinson, who we have a two-parter. So the second part will be on his podcast, which will be out on Thursday. Go check it out. What is it called again? Line. Line. Long shot.

Long shot with Duncan Robinson and Davis Revis. Davis Reeves. Miller. Davis Reeves. If I got Davis Reeves, I'm Davis. That's a really nice guy. Read. Very close. Davis was a very nice guy. We had both of them on and then go listen to their second part that we just kept on talking, had a great time with them.

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We've done this before. We're doing a two-parter. So the first part you're listening to right now on Pardon My Take. If you want to listen to the second part, it will be on the Long Shot with Duncan Robinson and Davis Reed. Out when? You are. Here's I'm going to give you a tip real quick. I asked you when your podcast drops and you gave me like,

well, sometimes this time, sometimes this time, sometimes that time, I was like, dude, rule one, drop it. Right. I mean, I'm I'm binded by an MBA schedule that I need to kind of work around. Yeah, a little caveat. But we usually we usually drop Thursdays. Thursdays. So this can be counted on for next Thursday. So what's the day?

No, yeah, Thursday. We're going to drop this Thursday. Say this Thursday. This Thursday. This Thursday. We're going to drop this next week. Yeah. So this Thursday, tune into the second part to on the Long Shot. All right. So we should start. I know that everyone's talked about a million times, but I mean, are you here now going to disavow?

Joanne Howard, you know, I'm happy you brought this up. Something I wanted to actually ask you about. OK. You know, I'm not willing to do that. I know Joanne well. I played for Joanne. Did you ever try to smush your face? Never had never had that issue. Yeah, I'm not willing to do it, to be honest. And honestly, most of the Michigan people that I've talked to

support him and are in his corner. No way. Understand, understand that it was a mistake. But I mean, I think that there's there's multiple people at fault. There were some escalators. Really? I think there were some. Interesting. They're good people on both sides. Well, I don't think I anyone who said Joanne Howard should be fired was an idiot.

OK, I actually do think he needs anger management. I mean, he got a legitimate punishment. I mean, five games likely the rest of the season. Unfortunately, we've had well pedestrian year. Can you say that it was a legitimate punishment when he basically gets a better coach to fill in for him and win them games? I would say Phil. Phil's a legend. He is. Phil is a ton of energy.

Big, big Phil Martelli fan. But I think the punishment fit the crime. I'm going to take the opposite side, though. I'm going to say that, like, Joanne Howard told him several times, stop touching me, stop touching me. He was standing his ground. If this took place in Florida, where you play, he would actually be legally in the right.

There were also some like he kind of got up under him. Guard did. Yeah, Greg Guard. Initially Aaron Donald. And I think it's exactly that. That's sort of like offensive linemen move up under. And I also think you saw Joanne trying to just move on. Right. Like he was just trying to acknowledge the disrespect that took place and just keep it moving.

And then there was like that interaction. It was crazy because Greg Guard was trying to shake his hand. In a handshake line, which is very rarely done. Well, don't touch me, though. Here's here's the thing. He's just walking through the handshake. I think handshake lines in general for college athletics is I mean, it's just like it's outdated.

Oh, why are we still doing it? It's just that's such an NBA guy. But it's just an excuse. Second in the NHL, you know that? But it's just like it's like, what do you expect after a heated competitive game? Sportsmanship. But we got rid of them with COVID.

And I think that should have just been like the. I like it because I like to see. I actually don't care if the player, if the players don't shake hands, I have no problem with it. I want to see the coaches because I want to see like who sucks at losing the most. So so in the NBA, every bench does the exact same. You just give the courtesy like hand up, you know, kind of wave.

You don't need to come, you know, bring it in, whatever. You don't need to do that. And it's just like you don't have any altercations. There's nothing you just do the wave, you know, little head nod, acknowledge it, head to the locker room. And I feel like that's sportsmanship enough. Well, the reason I like the handshake line is I want to see the the rare occasion

where the handshake line turns into a fight. I don't actually care about the sportsmanship. I just want to see the bad blood, whether it's a player or a coach coming together. That's just like the game after the game in a way. It's a it's a way for me to not have to change the channel immediately after the game ends. I understand that.

I actually, I agree. I think it's good for the sport. This is Davis Reed, by the way. Hey, everybody. Just wanted to give everyone. I love that I was in the intro. This is a big debut for Davis. Yeah, you know, from small town, Kansas,

has made it onto quite the production, you guys. Yeah, I think Patrick Holmes is his top five quarterback. Top two, probably not two. Oh, but I'm biased. A lot of people say he's kind of a check-down guy now. Patty check-downs is what we thought. That was out of necessity, guys. They're dropping eight.

He was still going. Well, he couldn't beat when they were, he couldn't beat him when they were dropping eight. Right, no, we, they cracked him. Yeah, we'll talk cheese later. All right, so what was your point on handshakes? I'm going to die on the hill that I think it's good for bad. I mean, if you were told that every handshake line

was going to include a slap from one of the head coaches, would you not watch it? Yes, of course. No, I love it. That's what I'm saying. I want to see, like, I want to see Coach K pissed off and like have to shake someone's hand after he loses in the tournament.

Like, that's fun for me. But if that's the case, then we can't be up in arms and call him for people's jobs. When he smashes people. When he smashes people. Yeah, when it does happen. Yeah, I mean. What do you expect?

Yeah, I guess, I guess there is a line where it's like, they could shake hands and not try to fight the whole other team. Yeah, no, it's a point to you. But we are putting them in a situation where it's like, OK, you guys have just competed. Now go go stand next to each other for three minutes. And then we're going to watch you to make sure that you

stand next to each other correctly. And if you don't, then we're going to call for you to be fired. Yeah, we're like putting them in that position. But again, that's part of the pageantry of sports. And I do think that there is something to watching a game on TV. Imagine if you watch the game on TV and the second the buzzer sounded.

It just cut immediately to something else. You need like a little come down period and watch the handshake line can do that. But I think anyone that was calling for John Howard to be fired over that is is pretty much just a clown. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. All right, so the first place heat.

That's right. Which is crazy. Heat culture. Is he culture real? Oh, it's as real as ever. What it? Well, what does it look like? It's alive and well.

Could you see it on the street? That person has a culture? I think if you were to see it on the screen, it would just be a picture of Pat Riley. And then maybe Spoe would be like Photoshopped in there as well because he now has been pushing the culture for so long. He embodies heat culture?

Yeah, I think the combination of the two. And then you, Donis Haslam is in there as well, probably. Yeah, he's still on the team. What's his day to day like? Does he actually practice or does he show up and just like wear the sweatpants the whole time? You know, I say this all the time. And I actually mean this like UD brings a ton of value

to our team like genuinely from like a leadership locker and presence. I mean, he says it all the time. He's like, I've seen everything but the wind in this league. Like that's like his line. And it's true, like he's gone through it all, all in the heat jersey as one championships. He's played every single role, undrafted guy in many ways,

like embodies what a lot of guys on our roster are trying to get to. And he's had multiple times this year where he's come in and helped us win. And he had the great altercation with Dwight Howard last year where he, you know, got ejected 90 seconds into his minutes, which is special. I love that though.

I love the fact that he's a spark guy. You'll need him a couple of times a year in the game. Don't ask him to play like every night, but like the times that you need him, he'll come and he'll deliver. He is the Miami Heat. It's like him and Dwight and Wade. I'll say this, he would be an unbelievable guest

on this show. OK, but unbelievable. We had him on our show and it was by far our best interview. Lot of cursing, a lot of great stories, a lot of great Pat Riley stories, Dwayne Wade stories. He's just. Let's get him on.

Does he have kids? Is he like going to be like LeBron or is his kids already so old they can't be in the NBA anymore? He does have kids. I think he has three boys. The oldest plays football in college. He's an offensive lineman somewhere, I'm pretty sure. Youngest, the middle is a really good baseball player

in Miami. I think he'll probably be playing in college. But yeah, I don't think. I think the youngest one plays basketball. But no, we're not. We're not looking at a brawny brawn situation. What do you think about brawny's game? Break it down for us.

Somebody was actually somebody was just asking. Honestly, I'm not. I'm not qualified to speak on it. I'm not tapped into high school basketball, even though it seems like Sierra Canyon games are rivaling UCLA games in terms of attendance. I mean, could he start for Williams? That's a good question.

I'm going to say probably. OK. All right. So it's as 16-year-old he could. Just for sheer athleticism. I've had the Williams debate a lot. Division III basketball, Davis also played in the same conference.

OK, for which team? Yes, I don't love the slander. OK. Wesleyan. OK. Not as good as Williams. That's Bill Belichick, right? That's right.

Yes. It's a high level of skill. The athleticism is not quite there. But it's a high level of skill. And I stand by that. You just say white guys. Yeah. What is that?

They get in the triple threat position a lot. They're really a lot of skill. A lot of the sound, right basketball decisions, high IQ, first to the floor, a lot of charges being taken. Guys getting the most out of their athletic ability. Yes, exactly. Do you still fill it up? Do you still practice the triple threat position?

Every now and then, yeah. Just do it real quick for me. I mean, it brings back a lot of good memories. That was my move at Williams. Now I do a lot of other things. But yeah, back then, that was like triple threat, triple pass for me. I actually wanted to talk about your season this year.

So you went through a slump. Yeah. You were really bad. I was pretty bad. Really bad. You were shooting 27% from three for a stretch there. Is that true? Yeah.

18 for 66. Wow, you got the numbers. Yeah, you have the numbers. You crunched them. And the thing is, you did it all. You did the, all right, less is more. I'm going to shoot less. I'm going to go one for five.

And then you did the, oh, maybe more is more. And you went five for 15 in one game from three. I think it was actually five for 17. I'm looking at it right now. It's five for 15. But I'll give you five for 17 if you want to take that. Was that way? Was that against Celtics?

It was against the Timberwolves. Oh, no, you did go five for 17 against Celtics. Oh, so your bad stretch was actually longer than I thought. Yeah, yeah. Whoops. All right, so you all, then you like had one for nine, oh, for six. In a real honest question, like what actually goes through

your mind when you're not shooting well, because that's got to drive you insane. You know how to shoot. 100%. A great shooter, which doesn't happen. Yeah, it's a mix of emotions. You know, you go through like, it's almost like a pecking order, right?

Like the first is frustration and you're like, what the fuck, like why, what's going on? Then it's just like confusion after it gets to a certain point because you're like, exactly that. Like I know how to shoot. And then the most frustrating thing is you'll have a workout or a practice where you just can't miss. And then for whatever reason, it just like doesn't

come together in the game. But at the same time, like that is, that's like, you know, it sounds like cliche answer, but it's actually genuine. Like that's kind of what ultimately keeps you coming back to is like, you know, if you haven't figured out all the time, it's like you're living on Easy Street. Yeah, it's great.

But like, you got to have the perspective of those moments where you go, whatever it was, 18 of 66. But I will say like, because that was mixed in with the time where we had some injuries, we were like losing games, because we had a great start, had some injuries. And then I had an opportunity to kind of like help keep us afloat. And I did not step into that moment, if you will.

So like in that instance, it was like, there's some dark times mixed in there as well. Did you, did you try, is it similar to a hitting slump in baseball where like, were you talking to other people? Were you trying new things in practice? I pulled out all the stops. Really? Yeah.

I mean that, because like I had never had a slump to that extent. Oh, wow. I've had stretches of, you know, whatever, three, four, five, even like maybe seven or eight games where it doesn't quite feel right or whatever. But like the confusing thing about this one was throughout the stretch, the ball actually felt really good coming out

of my hands. It just wasn't going in, which like that's actually the more frustrating one. Because it's like, all right, if it doesn't feel good, then you can like try to remedy it, right? You can like try to find solutions. But like for me, it was, everything feels good. I'm doing everything the same.

I'm keeping my routine tight. I'm doing all this, whatever. And it's still not going in. So like that's where it was like, all right. That would drive me insane. You spend a lot of time trying to diagnose like exactly what's wrong, as opposed to trying to fix it. So it's like twice as long a fix.

Yeah. So what was the problem? I think it was a combination of things. I think shooting is super complex. Like it's not ever one thing, right? I think part of it was like the mental side of it. Like I started to press a little bit. Once I kind of heard about a slump and guys like you

on Twitter and stuff. I never said anything. But like people on Twitter or whatever. I don't want to speak. So I would have said something. I got to a point where I just started like blocking all that stuff out. And like before I could actually block it out,

I was like saying that I was blocking it out, but wasn't actually blocking it out. You know what I mean? That's good to know. It's like I'm going to start blocking this out. And like I say that publicly, but meanwhile I'm like still kind of like tapped into it. So I got to a point where it was like really like,

all right, I got to find a way to block this totally out. Which is, delete the apps, whatever, stay off the phone, all that sort of stuff. Which is a challenge in its own right. Right. You have a podcast. Yeah, exactly. Right.

I just went on a break. Yeah, I did. Davis was unemployed for a little while. It was that bad. I mean, that wasn't like the reason. It was mostly just because it was like I, I have my priorities elsewhere. And I always on my podcast say like,

anybody who thinks that my shooting is related to how much I'm doing a podcast is a fucking. But it does suck that they have that thing to point to and be like, it's the worst. It does a 45 minute podcast on Thursdays or Fridays, or maybe Wednesdays. Like I, obviously I'm around my, my teammates or like the NBA, whatever.

A lot of, I know people in the NBA and it's like, I know what goes on, what people are doing off the court. And it's like, if you think that me stepping aside for 45 minutes a week to do a podcast. Yeah. You're having a conversation essentially is like, but they can say you need to spend less time podcasting more time in the gym.

Yeah. Exactly. And that's the go to like this one that we're taping right now, for instance, like you have what? There's 90 minutes before you tip off against the next. So like this is no problem. Well, it's like 75 minutes now. Yeah.

So it's totally fine. Yeah. If you suck against the next, what, it's Maronite? It's Maronite. It's Maronite. It's going to be, oh man. We only had two beers. Yeah.

Yeah. A little weed, whatever. But the fact that it's like public facing, you know what I mean? So it's like guys are doing whatever they're doing. I'm not here to call it out names or whatever, but like, or even there's a huge thing now in the NBA community of like video games.

Guys spend hours and hours streaming their video games and they'll be up at like 2 AM or whatever. It's like, dude, I'm chopping it up with my high school friend and like a guest for 45 minutes a week. And you think that's why the ball is not going in. Do you think that maybe there was something to the fact that you focus so hard on your offensive rebounding game this year?

Because I ran the numbers on that too. And in 2019, you had 10 offensive rebounds total for the entire season. 2020, you had seven offensive rebounds total for the entire season. Trending the wrong direction. 2021 to the all-star break, you already have 20 offensive rebounds.

Falling your shot. So you're on pace in nearly quadruple last year's numbers and September 2019's numbers, but it's at the cost of your three-point shot. I just said falling a shot and Duncan was like, yeah, thank you. And then he realized I was just saying he missed the break. It's because he's missing the break.

So what changed? What did you focus on this off season to really amp up those offensive rebounding? I watched a lot of Dennis Robman film. Oh, wow. And I was just like, how can I embody what this guy brings on a nightly basis? No, so actually that was kind of like a running joke

on our podcast last year. Davis had the idea of like queuing up my seven offensive rebounds and putting them in a highlight film. Oh. It's a pretty sick highlight. That's awesome. With like some like suspenseful music. It's like one of those like high school mix tapes,

like a John Wall mix tape soundtrack, but it's like me getting an offensive rebound. And the funniest thing about my offensive rebounds last year were like, they were exactly that. Like I would miss background and the ball would come right back to me like from three. So it wasn't like I was like crashing. The biggest difference honestly,

is that we had like a little shift in philosophy from like a team standpoint of like, there was more of an emphasis to offensive rebound as a team. So it's kind of a boring answer, but like that's, that's really what. Okay, so I have a question off that, but I wanted to go back to one thing real quick.

So you said like, obviously guys are, or you know, your podcasting, other guys are playing video games. Who's the best video game player that you've had as a teammate, either current or former? Hassan, why are you laughing? I see Hassan like post a lot of his clips and stuff. Yeah.

Anyone else? What game? What game was it? Josh Richardson, Josh Richardson was really good at FIFA. And I take pride in playing FIFA. But he didn't really stream though. Yeah. What about the streamers?

All guys who go aggro on the stream. So it goes back to Juwan. All right. There we go, David. That's a good teammate. I got him. That's a good fucking step in. He tapped me in.

It goes back to Juwan. Look, these athletes, we revel in the competitiveness. That's true. Sometimes our emotions get the best of us. It doesn't mean it's okay. Wait, so you're doing, so when you say it like that, you're, you're counting yourself as an NBA player now? I was going to say that.

Where is that? That was an interesting use of we. Are you speaking for me in that moment? It's funny, we had, we've had some guests that have, that have passed questions to both of us. Like you guys are athletes, you understand. And I always say, I never correct them. Fuck yeah, I am.

I never correct them. There's a spectrum of emotions. When you, when the timpers get too high, you can finger point, you can smush. Sometimes we get realized just a racial slur comes up. Yeah, right. I would be very clear. This is about competitiveness.

We are not supporting that behavior. It's completely unacceptable. I want to clarify, if you're watching this, I'm not laughing at that behavior either. No. You're laughing at the fact that we're dancing around. 100%. People, our audience knows.

So Spoh, though. Great transition. Yes, great transition. Great transition. He is an unbelievable coach. I don't think he gets a ton of credit. Like he gets credit, but obviously his championships came with LeBron.

So everyone's like, oh, it's, you know, a super team. What is it, if you could describe it, if it's something he does, something he sees that's different than everyone else, that makes him so great? That's a good question. That's a great question. There's a lot, lot to unpack there.

I'll say, there's two things that really stick out. One is that he is, and this kind of ties in with the embodying heat culture. He is an everyday type of guy. Like he maximizes every opportunity, every single day. If we have a 20 minute walkthrough before practice, it's like, if we're on the floor and we're talking about something

that's meaningful towards winning, like we are locked in. And it's like, he's gonna go down the line to make sure everybody is. The other side of that is, you know, since I've been in Miami, this is my fourth year, we've had very different team make-ups. And we've had to win in different ways

and we've had to play in different ways. And we've also had different make-ups in terms of the personalities. When I first got there, we were like younger. My second year, we were definitely younger. We had Jimmy and a bunch of young guys that were trying to prove themselves. You know, we were practicing all the time.

We were, you know, playing with this chip and we still play with that same chip, but the approach is much different because we have older, more proven guys. And he just trusts that as a team, like we have accountability amongst each other where he's not gonna like police and babysit. Or even for that matter, like we've practiced

a lot less this year. And a lot of people would be like, well, well, that's not he culture, blah, blah, blah. But like the idea is that that just means we have more walkthroughs, more film sessions, and we're more locked in in those settings. Because we have guys like Kyle Lowry, PJ Tucker, you know, Jimmy, who have a lot of miles, right?

So it's like, you've got to find ways to win in between the margins. And it's not always like, you know, we call them like pads up practices where we wear knee pads and all that stuff. That's a tight rally thing for sure. Like we're not doing that as much as we once were when I was first starting out.

What about like a specific time where he drew up a play or he saw something before a game and gave you like a tip, like, hey, this is what, like, it was like, holy shit. That he like unlocked. Yeah. I love those stories whenever someone's like, oh yeah, he saw this, told me, and then I had the best game of my life.

So him and I have a really interesting relationship. I mean, he gave me a ton of confidence and like, and so the bunch of belief in me early on would like quite honestly, like I was undrafted my first year, you know, I was very much in one of those like slumps for the entirety of the year. I could like, couldn't make a shot. I think I shot 28% from three.

My first year, I can pull the numbers on that if you're curious. And like, you know, the following year into training camp, like he comes out publicly and is like, you know, Duncan's one of the best shooters on the planet. And like, he kind of got crushed for it in a way and that everyone's like, this guy who hasn't done anything at the NBA level, like, what are you talking about?

So he like, he builds up confidence, but then at the same time, like, he'll lay into me and like light me up if I'm like not shooting or not being aggressive. So he's had a bunch of instances where like, he just kind of knows the buttons to push. And you can see it actually, if you watch like, if I pass up a shot that he thinks is a good shot,

he'll like get like physically, he'll have like physical antics like on the bench and he'll be like, you know, mixed in with some curse words. Like basically like, what are you doing? I like that though. Like the fact that your coach, he's the biggest hard ass on you when you're not shooting. That's gotta be great for your confidence actually

because it's like, this guy believes in me so much that I'm getting in trouble for not shooting. Yeah, I mean, there was a great interaction in the bubble with Jaylen Brown. I was in the Eastern Conference Finals and you know, the bubble is like an intimate setting, right? There's no fans or whatever. So like basically hear everything.

And I passed up a shot in the corner and I was running back and we were running along the sideline that the coaches are on. And Spoh is like laying into me, like curse words, all sorts of stuff. And he's like, Jaylen's like, yo, what is he yelling at you about? I was like, he's mad that I didn't shoot that three.

And he's like, God, it's like, he was like, it's like that. I was like, yeah, man, I just basically shoot it every time I touch it. Like, and that's kind of like, that was like the role, you know what I mean? And like, it took me a while to get to the point where like I felt comfortable doing that sort of stuff. Cause like I was, you know, I was undrapped.

I played division three basketball. Like I'm four years removed from playing in front of 1,200 people in fucking Western Massachusetts. You know, so it was like, it took me a while to get to the point where like this guy, this hall of fame coach wants me to shoot it every time I touch it. What's more awkward when, when he yells at you

or when Jimmy Butler just calls you dumb publicly? I got the quote right here. He says, I've played with some pretty smart players before. Duncan's like the dumbest one out of all of them. I've been around some hall of famers. That means he's, he's smart though. I was actually, so I wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. There's more.

I've been around some hall of famers, really great players. It helps when you got guys that are extremely smart and know the game, except for Duncan, he dumb. Oh, okay, so no. Cause I thought for a second there, it sounded like he was saying of all the smart players, he's the dumbest. So that doesn't count the dumb players.

It sounds like you're just dumb. I will, Spindzone, he's calling you a really great player, I think, but you're just dumb. But I'm dumb, yeah. I mean, I'll take what I can get, honestly. That, that one was, that was actually funny enough. That was like in the time of, you know, that slump you were alluding to,

where I was just entirely off social media. So I, Davis actually told, like broke that news to me. He's like, do you see what Jimmy said? And this was like two days later, I was like, no, I have no idea what you're talking about. Cause I was just off my phone. He's like, yeah, he called you dumb at press conference. And then I kind of had to look it up for some context.

But you know, it's just, just Jimmy being Jimmy, you know? Yeah, Jimmy being Jimmy. Yeah, would that be a good thing for your jump shot though? Like if you're dumb, you can't overthink it. It's probably harder to get into a slump, I would imagine. Yeah. I mean, I'm a classic overthinker, like in every sense of the phrase.

So like it's not really working for me. But yeah, you would think that if I, you know, had less thoughts that I would just let it fly. I've always said that like the dumbest kicker that you could ever find would be great for a football team. Cause you never, you never get in your own head about it. He just doesn't even understand the moment. You know, it's just like, doesn't even like register.

How many times has Jimmy changed his phone number since you've been on the heat? I think just twice. I think it's more than that. I think just twice. He, after the bubble, I think he changed it. Now to like a Hawaii number or something. It was like very obscure, but yeah, I think just twice.

I remember talking to someone who was on the bulls with Jimmy and he was like, yeah, he changed his number like every few months. Yeah. Honestly, I probably just have like maybe one or two renditions of his number. Like he probably has, you know, a whole assortment of phones. Along those same lines, and we're going to wrap up

this portion and we'll do the rest on your guys podcast in a second. But like in terms of a NBA locker room, I think there's a lot of times where we as fans are like, oh, all these guys are friends. They hang out all the time because they're around each other all the time. Is there like, how, how close would you say

you are to your teammates? And is there like a hanging out after practice, hanging out like goofing around? Or is it a lot more of a business situation? Yeah, it's definitely different. I mean, college basketball is very much, I mean, you're going to class, you're living in dorms, you're, you know, study hall or whatever, practice,

lifts, all that stuff. Like you're doing everything together, eating all your meals. The NBA is different in that there is kind of like a nine to five approach in a way, right? Like guys are showing it to work. After I finish my work, I'm going home. I want to be with my family.

I want to be with my friends. Or like even younger guys, if they don't have families, like they kind of got their crew that maybe- They got podcast co-hosts. Yeah, I got podcast. Davis spends a lot of time in Miami. You know, that sort of stuff. So it is different.

I will say like this year, this is probably the closest heat team. It might rival the bubble team. Those two that I've been on in terms of like, we all, you know, if we're in a city, we try to go to get dinner. And also at the same time, it's like, naturally it's kind of in groups,

like older guys kind of tend to do their own things. And that's not to say that we all don't like hang out occasionally together, but you know, just naturally like younger guys, I mean, I'm 27, I guess I'm not that young anymore. I did like 10. Yeah, I did five years of college. She answered my time.

Not dumb. You're talking about like it's prison. Yeah. I did five years of high school too. Hard time. You are dumb. I called the 10 year plan, you know, just really took my time.

Yeah, I think that's what Jimmy was getting at. Yeah, maybe. Took a victory lap twice. But you could also look at that a lot of education. You know, I've sat in a lot of classrooms. Dick, though, that remains to be seen. I think I think what, like as a fan, I think it bums me out because I watch a team and I'm like,

you know, every fan has ever done this like, oh, how fun would it be to be on that team? And it's like, I'm thinking in my head like, oh, we just fucking kick it after like it'd be so sick. But it's not like that. It's not necessarily like that, but you naturally do spend a lot of time with each other because of the travel schedule,

you know, on planes, buses, practices before, after, in hotels. Like there is just by like defaults, a lot of that. You know, like when we're all, like we've been on the road a bunches here. Our road schedule has been like super front loaded. Like in March, we're in Miami basically the entire time. So yeah, and like instances like that,

guys are taking advantage of being back and going to spend time with their family and stuff. And also like, it's also Miami. So like there's a lot to do, like people are. Would you consider yourself to be like, are you a medium sized baller or are you a big baller in Miami? I'm probably like just passing the threshold

into medium sized baller. If you walk down South Beach. From a little baller. Yeah, from a little baller. Yeah, so you're on the way up. Your baller status has increased with a new contract. Honestly, actually in that, I'm probably still a pretty tall baller.

Can you drop your name if you're making a reservation? I mean, I personally cringe when I do that. So like I have a friend of mine who I just call and like, you know, that sucks for you though. No, that's much more low. You've got a guy that you have call. Right. And I will say he's, you know,

he's basically batting a hundred. Okay, we should start dropping Duncan Robinson's name in Miami. But I didn't know if he didn't show up. We'd be like, no, one of us is Duncan Robinson. Well, it depends on if he's in a slump or not. Yeah, that's true. Here's the thing with my guy though,

is like, he... You can just say Davis. Davis is the one to call. It's actually not Davis. It's not necessarily my name that gets it done. It's just that he is as persistent as you could possibly imagine. He's on the heat, yeah.

Because that would be all, you can't say that. You can't call. Like, I think once you get to big baller and you just say what's the name and you say Duncan Robinson, they're like, oh, sir, okay, good. You do need someone to be like, yo, he plays for the heat.

I swear to God, he'll come in a jersey to prove it. You could also be like, what I've learned some tactics is you can be like ambiguous a little bit and be like, you know, my client plays for the heat. And then maybe they're like, oh, well, maybe it's Jimmy Butler. We're not gonna deny Jimmy Butler a table.

That's true. You know what I mean? He's not bam. Yeah, whereas if they would just like come out and say, like, oh, it's Duncan Robinson, maybe they'll be like, I have no idea who that is. Which is like probably in all likelihood. Well, it's Miami's, like if you played in a different city,

Miami's just very famous and very... You got DJ Khaled running around down there. Dave, Dave's running around there. You think my name's moving weight? It's just not. Who would you say runs Miami now? Who's the biggest celebrity down there? It's gotta be Pitbull always, right?

Until he dies. Mr. Worldwide. Danny Portain? Mr. 305. Yeah, Dave. He's in the mix as well. He's definitely in the mix. He's getting that train to the stadium.

I think, I think Pitbull is, I mean, a combination of Pitbull and DJ Khaled, I would say. And honestly, Dave Grubman too. Yeah. He's in the mix. And that's Dave Portnoy's friend, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes, he's definitely in the mix.

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We're gonna do the second part on the long shot with Duncan Robinson and Davis Reed. My last question is Davis, have you, how much part am I taking you listen to? A decent amount. Do you know about the roast we did of, not you personally, but your name? No.

Okay, so we're gonna do that. Oh boy. In a second on your show. Okay, I can't wait. All right, I mean, do you want to reset or we just keep going? No, just keep going. All right, so let's do it.

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Super Bowl week. You're doing the whole thing. You're doing the car wash. So we'll try to hopefully ask you some questions that maybe you haven't been asked. But maybe one that you haven't been asked. Which state would you rather live in, Florida or Michigan?

Right, so with Fordy, you got the no income tax. You got, I mean, it's blistering hot during fall camp. But then Michigan, you kinda got the reverse. You got income tax, but that camp will be smooth. And there's a lot of benefits to both. That's tough. I mean, that's what's good is I got family in Michigan too. So it's like.

But do you wanna have the pressure where you gotta get tickets every game for them? I mean, the tickets, I can't imagine how many tickets I'm gonna need. Especially because I got. Well, that is a lion, so. I know. Well, hopefully if I go there, we start winning.

Yeah. That's the plan. That'd be ideal right there. A lot of people, me, are saying that you should do the old Eli Manning and just demand if you get selected before the lions that you wanna go to Detroit and create them and be the guy that turns Detroit to, you and Dan Campbell.

That's right. And I bet you'd like playing for Dan Campbell. I've seen some interviews of him tearing up and he sounds like he's super passionate about the boys over there. It sounds like from what I hear from my agent and stuff like that, the boys are all bought in. Yeah.

I mean, they're all, they're in it. We love Campbell. They fought for him. I mean, you had a guy, we love Jim Harbaugh. We've had him on the show a bunch of times. What's your best Harbaugh story or like the most quintessential? I feel like Harbaugh probably wouldn't,

especially this season, he just like grabbed you a bunch and like, you know, like, ah, you're doing this for me. We had a few moments in games where we were just grabbing each other and screaming face to face. And like, there was, there was some clips and we were like, let's just go on. Ah! And it's like, it's just unbelievable.

And I mean, like, the Harbaugh that we get is like, pre-practice. I go out there in our weight room, just warming up and he's out there like, no shirt, khakis on, just ripping squats. And that's like, he doesn't give a shit like what you say or what you think. Like, he just, he does his own thing.

And like, that's what I love about him is like, he has no shame in like, doing that. Just ripping squats and khakis and just doing his thing. And like, that's, that's Harbaugh. And hey, if you're not with him, you better get out of the way. Yeah. Does he, does he text you?

A little bit. He's not, he's not a big phone guy. Right. He's more of, you know, an in-person kind of dude. He uses Excel for everything. That's what we've found out about him. Like, when he's writing up, he doesn't use a word document. Doesn't use Google Docs.

He types everything into an Excel. See, I didn't even know that. Yeah. Yeah, into a cell and then copies and posts it. It sounds like a Harbaugh thing though. Yeah. I've heard one of his favorite moves is the first time that he sees a younger player,

like with a tennis school or something like that, he'll go up to him and be like, hey, you know what the five finger horseshoe is? Did you ever do that to you? And he'll just straight up put it, put five fingers into the guy's 10, take out their entire packets back and put it in his lip and just walk away.

I mean, that sounds like Coach Harbaugh there. He does a lot of like stuff that you kind of sit there and you're like, oh, well, okay. I mean, that's, that's different. But hey, that's Coach Harbaugh. Yeah. And I would imagine, I mean, we were very happy for him when you guys beat Ohio State.

How long was that? Cause you had the big 10 championship game right after, but how long was that glow? Cause I feel like I watched all the, I don't like Michigan, I'm a badger, but I love Harbaugh. Fortunately, we took out your badgers this year. Yeah.

I mean, we beat you like 500 times in a row and put this shit out of you. I'm just glad I could go out on a win again. Yeah. All right, okay. But just beating their ass at the badgers. Yeah, but let's, I mean, I could look up like how many, but what about 2019 when we just ran the ball

down your throat like a hundred times in a row? Yeah. That's gotta suck. Yeah. Okay, whatever. All right, so let's, So you were saying, I was saying, yeah, I was saying, I, I, I root for Harbaugh.

I want him to do well. So I watched like all the highlight videos from like the, the locker room and the smile. Did he have that smile for like days after? Cause it was such a big moment for him. I know it was for the team, but like so many doubters, you know, who would have been like 0 and 6 or 0 and 7. So that was everything for him.

No, he was, he was on a high, I think it was, I saw it a little bit after the Ohio State game, but it was mostly after we got the job done in Indy, where it's like, you can finally take a breath and you get a little break. And like, I mean, we, we'd walk in some team meetings sometimes and he'd just be like, and we're, and we're big 10 champs, baby.

And the whole room would just go, go crazy and stuff like that. But like, so he was feeling himself for sure. But like, that's like, that's a Harbaugh I haven't seen. Yeah. And so being able to see that side of him, where it's like, finally we get some freaking glory and we can, we can like, just have some fun and victory. It was like, I'm glad I got to see that like,

for my last year with you. Yeah. Do you actually hate Ohio State? Yeah. No, it's, it's real. Just, I grew up in Michigan too, you gotta know. I grew up literally watching Michigan lose to Ohio State every single year. So it's like, it was deep.

And your dad was a captain, right? Of Michigan football. My dad was a captain back in the 90s and he never lost to Ohio State. He was four, oh, and one, he tied him once. But, and he won five big, big 10 championships, two in a row. And I mean, I'm just glad I could finally beat OSU

and get my, get a ring on my own, you know? Do you think you could beat up your dad? Now? Absolutely. What age was that? I imagine. So we would always arm wrestle a little bit. I think when I turned 18, we, we finally, we,

we were arm wrestling and he, and he screwed up his elbow and I think that was the point where I was like, I can finally get your ass a little bit, you know? Yeah. Man of the house. Yeah. That's gotta be a tough pill to swallow if you're, your dad, like, you're, you know, like you said,

Michigan captain, a legend. You like to think that you're always gonna be able to dominate your son. Oh, a hundred percent. It happens to all of us, man. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. But you still got that dad strength though.

Yeah. You can't sleep on the dad's. Oh, dad strength for real. See, so I don't, I don't know his true potential in terms of dad strength. Because, you know, he just, he just keeps it. Right. If you were in danger, he would be able to,

he would turn. Yes, right. Dad mode, you know. It's kind of a catch-22 situation because yeah, if you were in danger, he could activate the dad strength but then he couldn't use that dad strength to hurt you. That's right. You know, so you always kind of have one up on him.

If you punch yourself. Yeah, it'll stop you by knocking you out. Yeah, he'll be like, hey, dude, stop hitting my son. That's right. Do you think, well, Big Cat is a dad. Do you think that you could escape this room right now? Like if all of us, it's me, Bubba, Hank, Billy, Big Cat. Yeah.

If we told you. That's a lot of bodies, right? If we told you, you can't fucking leave. Yeah. You think you could take it? Sponsored by Autotrader. Yeah. Sponsored by Autotrader.

With Autotrader right here, I might be able to. Yeah. I think you'd probably take us. I'm pretty confident. I'd just lay down. I don't know. I'd be a speedboat. If you guys devise a plan with the legs, arms.

I would be us coordinating it. We probably wouldn't work like that. That's right. If we could actually have a plan together. Now, one by one, you know, maybe. Billy would go war mode and our plan would be gone. Yeah. He would do the old Leroy Jenkins thing.

Yeah, that's right. I got this point. I'd be like, OK, I'm going to grab a sweatshirt and pull the hockey sweater over him. Hank, you take one. Bubba, you take the other Big Cat, you bear hug him. And then Billy just runs directly at him and gets killed. All right, so I'm very curious about this, dude.

This season was incredible for you. Going into this season, what were the conversations about where you would potentially be in the draft? So my junior year, it was the third game I broke my ankle. And we only played six games that year. Right. I kind of had a decision to make. And they had projected me 30 to 75.

So that's late first anywhere to the early third. And that was kind of what I was looking at. And I knew I know my potential and I knew it. So I knew I could be a top guy. But just kind of how my cards fell my junior year, I wasn't able to show it. So my senior year become I get a new coordinator. And he kind of opens my roll up.

It gives me a ton of freedom to just go out and do my thing. And I knew preseason. I was like, I just feel like I'm about to just explode once I get on that field just because he's letting me do really not whatever I want. But if I go and make a mistake, it's it's not the end of the world. He knows what kind of player I am.

And I'm going to make up for it and all that stuff. So was there a moment where you like was there a specific moment you can remember where you read a draft to mock draft or you saw something where it's like, oh, now now they're talking about me top 10. Right. Yeah, it was I think it was after the Washington game. They had a good tackle.

And I had like two and a half sat game. And it was kind of my first game that was like it was a question. Like how is it going to do against Washington? Their tackles and I went and had a game. And that was when I first started seeing like, you know, the first round like top 10 stuff and then start seeing I'm going to the lines. I'm like, oh, this is crazy. OK, so now this is a very human moment and I'm sure it happened to you

and you shouldn't feel ashamed about it. Did you then go look up like what the difference between like the 30th pick and the fifth pick money money? Oh, I've already I've already known about that. Yeah, like that's that's got to be cool. I mean, it's insane. Five now. And that's all right. So looking at the numbers, it's insane.

Like dudes, like when they say a first round pick, like, I mean, that can that's a difference of like from first to 30 or 32. It's like 30 million dollars. Yeah, inside. They're probably like 20 million in signing bonus. So it's like it's a big disparity. And you know, just to be in this conversation of being on top is really cool. Yeah. Who do you model yourself after?

If you're looking at somebody that's playing football right now or has played within the last five years, is there a pro that you're like, I want to be like that. Yeah. No, I watch a lot of NFL film and I kind of like taking bits of pieces. I watch a lot of TJ. I mean, TJ is an absolute baller and I watch the bosses. Those those three are really are guys who I who I watch. And I, you know, try to take little things to add in my game

and make it my own style. Other high motor guys. Um, yeah, gritty guys. Grit. Yeah. No, it sounds like you like. I mean, yeah. I saw you on Chris Long's show, too. Yeah. No, Chris Long.

Yeah, he's a guy. And you guys were getting like a little bit nerdy with it, with the like the real in-depth discussion about technique and stuff. That's right. Yeah. We were getting a little football. Yeah. So you I heard on that that you, you know, when you were playing for your old coordinator, who we love, by the way. Yeah. I mean, guys being dudes.

Like he's he's the guy that either a guy or a dude, right? When did you become a dude? I think when I was a he officially said it to me. I think more transitioning to when I was a junior. This is Don Brown. You have the former. Don Beesey. Yeah. Don Beesey.

And yeah, you think you said it to me. And that's that's like the ultimate. It's the ultimate like sign of like you made it. You've been knighted at that point, too. Yeah, you're knighted to a dude. No, he's he was hilarious in those meetings, though. And he was an old man who fricking got after it and got after us. Yeah.

Solve solve all your problems with aggressive. That's right. That was my favorite. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's he's a funny dude. Do you want we want to help you? So do you want to address the quote unquote weaknesses in your game that are going to be talked about?

So I think I have them in front of me. If you want me to go, you don't have to go through. Well, how's your hip flexibility? I got great if I asked. Don't listen to them. Who are you talking to? I'm reading right now. Since Hutchison has displayed limited hip flexibility.

I'm going to ask. Yeah. So we need to ask how would you how would you say your flexibility feels? Look, man, I feel extremely flexible in my hips. OK. And despite whoever that is, whatever they say, I mean, if they see it, I guess they got the right to their own opinion.

So the other one that I like, I don't even really understand. They said that you're going to you're going to need to adjust to the snap counts in the NFL because they're not as simple. Do you have snap count problems? I was I mean, I was jumping the snap count a lot in college. Right. You can't do that in the pros. You can't. Aaron Rogers likes to cheat.

That's right. Yeah. Do you do freelance too much? Oh, why? Is that a weakness? No, I just know I'm asking. It's just something that you I really don't freelance that much. Which I'll counter. I'll take a big gap like once, probably twice a game, if not.

So I'm not a big freelancer, but I just know one in my head that I got a little freedom is keeps me at it. Because you're going to ask these you're going to get asked these questions at the combine percent. Yeah. Where's the other? Are you a cat or a dog? Yes. Yeah. Cat or dog? Oh, no.

This is the easiest question. This is already a failure. I'm just saying, though, if I say I'm a dog, I mean, that's. Yeah. It's an easy question. It's too easy. This is like the baseline question. I'm trying to be more complex about it. Maybe you go with like, I'm actually a lion.

Maybe that's a cat. If it's if it's with Ann Campbell, you say it's a lion. Yeah. Right. Yeah. We're like, wait, I'm not are you a Jaguar? They're both. Well, that's a cat. Yeah, I know. Well, there are no dogs. There are no dogs in the right.

And see, now you guys got me now. No, I don't know. What would you say is like a lion versus Jaguar who wins in a fight? I feel like a lion, right? King of the jungle. Yeah. Yeah, they're way bigger. OK. Yeah. I mean, what's your favorite jungle?

What's your favorite movie that has a character named Simba? Hmm. A lot. I mean. It's Lion King is what you say. I mean, Lion King, but you really love lions, huh? So you think a Jaguar, no, a lion beats a Jaguar, but what if like a giant walked in?

I mean, what kind of how big is this giant? He's big. He's blue. He's big. He's a big giant. He's a big blue giant. Yeah. I feel like the giant will win. Oh, interesting. Right. Then last second, how giant is the giant? It comes and crashes into the guy who survives that crash. Well, I'm assuming the giant is not from this planet.

Right. So I would assume that he would survive a plane crash. OK. So the giant's. The giant also pays a lot of money in taxes, though. Yeah. I would assume so. A ton of money. Yes. A lot. Way too much money.

But. The giant actually has to move to Florida for seven months out of the year, so he doesn't get taxed like he lives in. Oh, actually, if you're so when you go to the combine, if you do, because what do the giants have, the third pick or fourth pick? They've got two of them.

No, they have the fifth. They have the fifth. The Jets have the fourth. OK. Who's got the third? Texans? No, Texans. Yeah, Texans. All right.

So if you do get to talk to Brian Dable, we've had him on. Yeah. He loves D's nuts jokes. Really? You try to hit him with one. Yeah. Really?

Because he actually, he absolutely wouldn't expect it in that setting. Did you go out on a limb and you hit him with one? We tried, dude. Josh Allen told us to try to do it. Oh, that's why. All he does is talk about him. But if you did that in the combine setting,

I think his guard would be down. Mm-hmm. You could get him. How about this? That would be a power move, though. That would be a power move. That would be what you do. That would be a power move.

Here's what you do. You go in and you say, hey, I'm Aiden. He goes, Aiden. And you go, yeah. Aiden nuts look pretty big, huh? That's right. That's right. That'd be a power move.

Oh, man. Yeah. He would love you forever. He would. And I could tell you, like, would they trade up, maybe? Yeah. I think you could legitimately make yourself, like, $3 billion if you hit Brian Dable with

the net. Well-executed D's nuts. He would think of it every day, like, when he looks at the draft board. He's like, put, God, I'm going to hutch. This guy gets it. Got me good. Yeah.

This guy gets it. This guy gets it. He just gets it. I'm going to start formulating some stuff in my head. I'm telling you, it would be incredible if you get it. If you pulled that off. All right. So I had one last question.

What was the, like, walking away from the semifinal game? Obviously, it didn't go your guy's way. Michigan had a great season. But what, like, was Georgia really that good? Because, you know, I'm just curious from an opponent's standpoint, they win the national title. Yeah. Talk about how unbelievable they were.

Yeah. Could you feel it? I think schematically, they were better than us. I think they got us into some situations that, you know, not that we didn't expect, but that we got to be better and execute our own game plan. But in terms of, you know, it just felt like another football team. You know, everyone wants to say SEC versus Big Ten.

But, like, it was a good old line. I mean, they're big dudes, but every old line. It's like, Wisconsin's old line got some big ass dudes. And it's like, it doesn't really matter. I don't know. I mean, they were good. It's just like, you know, I felt that they really, they took me out of that game and props to them.

Because they schematically made the game and took me out of it. And, you know, and, you know, they got us. And it hurt, but... What about your old line? Did they regret doing that walk-in? Because that was... That was tough. I know, I know.

That was tough. Run the damn ball. It looked a little bit better than that. But, see, the thing with Georgia's defense, they were built to stop, like, gap scheme run plays. And, like, that's... A lot of our offense had those gap scheme counters, power, stuff like that.

And, you know, I mean, with the big dogs in the middle, I mean, that's... Like, their defense was so talented. And, I mean, how do you beat them? I mean, Bama showed you how to spread them out. You got to, you know, fast tempo, get those guys tired. And, yeah, so I think they matched up very well against us. Yeah, I mean, the crazy thing about Georgia is

even their big guys are super fast. So you can spread them out a little bit. Yeah. And you can make them tired. But it's going to take a while. 100%. You just... It was tough because you ran into, like,

in my opinion, one of the best defenses in the history of college football. 100%. Not to take away from the season you guys had, because it was amazing. And I just wanted to ask you real quick about going into that week against Ohio State. Like, what was the tone like?

How intense was it around practice? Was it one of those atmospheres where, like, everyone's a little bit on edge? Right. Or were you guys, like, enthusiastic, happy, carefree? What was that like? You know, Coach Harbaugh renamed our nine-on-seven drill to beat the Beat Ohio drill during spring ball,

because he felt like we needed to put more of an emphasis on it. So when we were hitting the Beat Ohio drill on Ohio State Week, that's when it got pretty real. And, you know, that's when... I mean, we knew, I mean, we've been preparing for those guys since January. So, you know, there wasn't too much of a difference,

because, you know, I mean, we were all... Like, no one was satisfied with any win, because we all just wanted to beat the freaking Bucks. Like, that was the last thing we all wanted to do. See, that's interesting. And we did it. I think it's kind of something that I had thought at times. I know what other people had, but it's like,

your team was built to win one football game. That's against Ohio State. And it's built under the assumption that if we're able to beat Ohio State, then the rest, we can take care of that. 100%. That was the mindset, because Ohio State was always, you know, the top dog.

And if we, you know, if we... Exactly, literally word for word. If we're built to beat Ohio State, I mean, who's going to be able to beat us? But obviously, Georgia, you know, great football team. I'd imagine Rick's was pretty sick that night. Skeeps was pretty crazy. Skeeps?

It was crazy. I mean, Rick's, I like Rick's, because I've been to Rick's a couple of times, and it's like, there's always at least like two inches of water. Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's... Classic college ballroom.

I know, I know. It was, Ann Arbor was freaking crazy that night. Yeah. And, um, no, it was, it was great though. Yeah. It was, it was real cool. All right. Well, good luck.

Um, you probably owe us a little money off your signing bonus. We can talk about that later. Um, yeah, good luck. Well, if you get drafted by the Giants, you definitely own us. I'm sure if you hit... Yeah.

I'm just gonna work if you do it. I'm gonna, I'm saying it at the combine. I'm doing it. Yeah. He will, it will absolutely land. Like he, he, when we did it to him, he was like so happy that we were even bringing it up. So, yeah.

All right. All right. But yeah, best of luck at the combine, drafts, all that stuff. Um, always welcome back on. Yeah. Appreciate it, man. Thanks for having me guys.

Yeah. Appreciate it. Okay. Let's wrap up the show. We're going to do little guys on college. We're back in Madison. Uh, higher education. Higher education.

That's right. That's what we call it. Guys on college. We'll also have a great show on Friday. We got to have, uh, one of our favorite recurring guests. We're going to be an indie for the combine. So, get ready for that. Higher education.

What's up, fellas? Stop, fellas. Stop. I'm currently a sophomore in college, which means my whole first year was remote due to COVID and something I've figured out is remote basically means you don't have to do anything. Yep. True.

Well, problem is now that I actually have in person classes. I just don't go because I'm too used to smoking weed and playing video games. So, I was just wondering if I can graduate without going to class for the rest of my college career. Thanks boys. I'll hang up and listen. Yeah, you sure can.

It's called being an English major. It's pretty simple actually. The tip, I assume he's at a bigger college because you can't pull it off at like a smaller liberal arts school, but the tip I always give is I would either read the book or go to class one or the other. You pick one or the other and you'll be fine. I would either go like if I didn't want to read the book, I'd go to every single class.

If I didn't feel like going to class, I'd read every single book on the list because they basically give you all the answers in college. You just got to either read the book or go to class. Yeah, I would say that the point of college, unless you're studying to become a doctor, that's pretty much it. Just only if you're going to be a doctor and actually work on people's bodies. The point of going to college is to have a good time and to walk out of there in four years with a piece of paper saying that you graduated.

That's it. Whatever way you can take to get there, go for it. I'm going to take a wild guess. Say this guy's not going to be a doctor. Probably not. Yeah. No offense, bro. But I'm saying like you can college.

You're a fucking idiot. The point for me at least going to college was just to have a good time. Yeah. And then once I would graduate, then I would get a job and maybe that piece of paper would help me get a better job. But seriously, just read the book. Every professor, you got to remember, every professor you ever had has been doing the same thing because they're lazy.

So they've been doing the same lesson plan for like probably 20 years if they have tenure and everything. So they don't change anything and they basically make it so that if you read the book, you'll have all the answers. Or if you listen to them drone on in class, you'll have all the answers. I'm also a big fan of just the grind set. In general, the grind set mentality, which is like just sometimes you learn cheating and learning how to pass that way.

Then you would actually learn from reading the book itself. Well, if you cheat, you can just tell yourself, I'm not really book smarts. I'm street smart. Yeah, exactly. I'm going to be in the mafia. That's a good way to put it. Yeah. That's me.

Thanks for tapping himself up. Then like on your LinkedIn profile, you can be like education, school of hard knocks. Yeah, exactly. I was wondering if any of you all had any funny experiences taking an exam, going to class drunk or high. I asked because last Friday I started drinking on the early side, completely forgetting I had an online test to take by midnight.

I remembered the test a few hours later and then went back home to take the test while fucked up. And I'm pretty sure I bombed it. Have you guys ever had a similar situation and how did it end up? Yeah. I'm trying to think of which one to tell us because there are two. One time I went to school, went to class when I was accidentally way, way, way too drunk.

I drank a lot of beer and it was an hour and 15. From the morning after or during the day? I accidentally got day drunk. That can happen. It can happen. We were walking up State Street in Madison today and I turned to Hank. I was like, this is the type of day because it's like 45 degrees in Madison right now.

I was like, this is the type of day I would just at noon. I'd just start getting fucking blacked out on a Tuesday. It's a perfect day drinking, guys. I may have had a spotted cow also at like 10.30 this morning. Just one. When in Rome. But so I had a little bit too much to drink before class. It was a Spanish class and I forgot how to speak Spanish because I was so drunk.

You were like Peter Griffin when he played the piano? It was a disaster. It was like an abject disaster. And then after the class was over, I'm sure he knew that I was drunk. I got up to leave and I've never had to pee so bad in my entire life that I couldn't actually walk. Yeah. I was like leaning against the lockers, walking down the hallway because I couldn't do a full

walk because if my bladder stretched out that far, I was just going to piss myself. No joke. I was like falling down from having to pee, not because I was drunk. There's nothing worse than the pee that you have after you've broken the seal and you keep drinking because once you break the seal, you have to pee every 30 minutes. And if you stop, it does feel like you're going to die. It starts expanding so much. And then the person I was paired up with for a group project in that class, after we walked

out, I was like, do you think the professor knew I was drunk? And she was like, yeah, definitely. Everybody knew that you were drunk. I was never drunk or high for a test. I had more class than that. No, I just, my other trick was I would just make sure that I don't think, I think after my freshman year, I never had a class on Fridays. That's smart.

I made sure to, like it would be like, oh, this class is interesting. Oh, it's on Fridays. Never mind. So that's how you shape America's future. They really shouldn't have classes on Fridays. Yeah, I remember vividly passing on a few classes that looked very interesting, but I was like, oh, Friday at noon, that's a no go. That's a no fly zone.

I tried one semester to get every single class on Tuesday and Thursday. I had nothing but classes back to back. And then I realized after trying it on the first Tuesday of school, that I actually physically couldn't get around campus fast enough to get into every building necessary for those classes. But the only reason was, like, can you imagine just having a four-day weekend every weekend? It's incredible. I had to redo everything and kind of change my mindset after that.

Hello, Big Cat, PFT, Hank, Jake, Bubba, and William. I'm going on my first spring break trip next week and wanting to know if you guys had any advice to make it a good time. Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Go to, like, an arts and crafts store or a party supply store and get every single color wristband that you can possibly get. That way, you can get into any hotel, any resort that you're going to.

I don't know if you're going to, like, a beach area where it's all inclusive or if it's, like, a spring break destination, but they will keep people out if you don't have the right color wristband to get in, showing that you're actually living there for the week. Also, the clubs, they have different color wristbands. Just stock up on wristbands. And if you put, even if you put, like, six or seven of them on your wrist to start the week, if you just walk into a place confidently with a bunch of wristbands, the bouncer's not going to, like, file through your wristband to see if they can find the right exact one.

That's true. I was going to say, just go with it. Like, don't say, no means no still, but say yes to everything. That's what I would say. Say yes to everything. Like, because there will be time, like, hey, should we go do this? Should we go drink? Should we go do, like, should we take a road?

Yes, yes, yes, yes to everything. But no means no. All right, a couple more. What was each of your majors and did you ever switch? For me, I was a finance major and once did so bad on a test that the teacher, also my advisor, didn't hand back my test results, but instead gave me the change major form to marketing with all the signatures needed already except my own. Go bonus.

That's pretty nice. I was history and polysci and my history. You switched or you were both? No, I double. No big deal. But no, because my history, I found a loophole that like in every big school has this. I did an honors history whole thing where I had like to write a thesis and everything, but I found a professor who was like my mentor and he was pretty much dead.

He was so old. I don't think he read a word of what I wrote. He never made me come to do anything like it was incredible. He just was like, you're a nice kid. It was that's find the oldest professor on campus and have him be your mentor. That's a little life hack for you because he's probably going to die very soon. He doesn't care about reading. And they always like they like it when the young kids.

The guy was so old. He was like 90 years old. I'm pretty sure it was like a legal for him to still be a professor. I like to imagine that there's an alternate universe in which Big Cat does a political podcast. We'd like with like the Johns, the Ponsave America, Johns and Dan. Well, what I said was it would be the Dan's and the Johns. The Dan's and the Johns. History, polysci is essentially the the majors of I was thinking about maybe going to law school at some point.

Yeah. And then was like, I'm too dumb. What that is is like a kid being like lawyers make a lot of money. Yeah, like, oh, I don't know. And then I was like, wait, I don't want to be a lawyer. I don't want to be down the money street. Fuck that. I ended up being an English lit major.

And the reason why I kind of backed my way into that was after two and a half semesters. So halfway through my junior year, my advisor called me into her office for a meeting and she goes, hey, you still haven't declared a major yet. What's going on here? I was like, well, I don't really know what I want to do. And then she made me just write down a list of professions that I wanted to be and they were all over the map. I think I had like, I'd like to be a cartoonist. I'd like to be a police officer. I'd like to be a gym teacher.

How old are you? I'd like to be a writer. Yeah, I know. Basically, I was a construction worker. But so she sat me down and she just said, well, you have no idea what you want to do. I don't know what you want to do. Let's look at the classes that you've already taken. And just so happened that I had taken enough classes to put me on kind of a track to be an English major.

That was similar for my my history part, which is like, I got to like halfway through college or like, hey, if you just do one extra class with this dead professor. You can be a history major too. And also she goes, the nice part about this one is you only have to take one math class. I was like, sold. I guess I'm an English major. It's okay. My math class was maybe the funniest class ever because it was it was the same question the entire semester. The question was, okay, this pond has 10,000 fish in it.

They die at a rate of 15% a year, but they reproduce at a rate of 30% per year. How many fish will be in the pond after three years? And so he would just do that question, but just have different types of percentage. Oh, yeah. And yeah, he would just switch the animals up. There are 20,000 antelopes on the prairie. What's the answer? I have no idea.

I forgot how to do it. Jake, you got it? All right, thank you. I need to know the fish answer. Hi, hogcat, PF cheeks and Henry lock God. Have I become a nerd if I was the first person to finish my dynamics exam yesterday or am I just that dumb? I airballed two threes in my intramural game last week, but was blaming it on the stress fractures in my foot. Now I'm wondering if it's because I've turned nerd.

Love the content as always. Thanks guys. Okay. No, you're not a nerd. There's nothing better than finishing first. I've had that a couple times in college where and then especially you give the like you finish first and then you turn it in and you just give like a little man. That was easy as you walk out. I know you probably suck.

No, I always feel like if I finished first, I fucked something up. Yeah, I know, but I know you fucked it up. But but to give it to put it into everyone else's heads where you're like, damn, was that was that as easy as you thought it was? What is a dynamics test? Sounds like robots. Yeah, your robot guy. We're so dumb. We can't even tell you what major you are if you give us like clues, context clues.

Have you ever thought like about with your kids, you're going to have to teach them math at some point? And if you looked at what math. No, no, I don't know. I'm not. I don't do math. I am not going to be teaching them math. That's what a tutor is for. I'm very bad at math.

There will be. I've actually thought about this. I think I think confidently I can say sixth grade is when that my son will be better at math than me. I would even say like, when is the time tables third grade? I can do time tables. But then if you've ever gone back and looked at a high school textbook for math, when it's trigonometry, I was a fucking genius when I was 16 to understand that shit. I don't get it. I can't do anything with that now.

It goes right over my head. I think you said 10,000 a year. Die 15% reproduce at 30%. I think that's an additional 1500 per year. Wait, but do they die before they reproduce? That's a good question. I don't know. Because that changes everything or do they reproduce before they die?

That would have been a great question asked to be like the biggest asshole in the class to be like, actually, your question's wrong, professor. Because the mating cycles show that they reproduce first. Maybe it was just a critical thinking class the entire time and he was waiting for somebody to ask him that question, nobody ever did. Yeah. Alright, you got one more? Two more? I do have one more. Both very douchey.

That's fine. You choose. The doucheier. Alright, what's going on PMT crew? Oh no. Within our fraternity, we created a basketball league. Everyone plays each other in the regular season proceeding and in the playoffs. Naked.

Play to a target score of 45 each game. Last night in the second round of regular season games, the Kremlin were facing off against the ugly tuna saloona big kahunas. The kahunas were leading 43-40 when they forced a turnover and had a 2-1-1 fast break. It sounds like a David Spade movie. The captain of the Kremlin, Paul, dumb name. I don't know if he's talking about the Kremlin or Paul. Paul. Decided to full on spear tackle the guy with the ball, then stormed off the court when everyone yelled at him.

He proceeded to go full bobby night and throw things like his shoes and water butt on the court. How should we punish these unjust actions? I think that guy rules. That's funny. Honestly, Paul sounds like he's shamed from Love is Blind season 2, which we need to do a recap of. Yes. No spoilers. I don't think the fact that he went and had a temper tantrum, like if he had just tackled him, I think that's bullshit.

And everyone knows the guy who like just point, you know, when you're playing pickup and it's point game and they just foul just constantly. That sucks. But the fact that he went full bobby night and started throwing his clothes and everything, I think he's kind of awesome. I think that Paul is the only sane one in the fraternity because you're playing a tournament of games and it's up to 45 points to win. Paul was just the first person to rightly point out like this whole situation is fucked. Yeah. I'm on Paul's side. Yeah.

No sanctions for Paul. No. What's an ideal body count for a senior in college? You know what we're saying? Wait, what was it? What's an ideal body count for a senior in college? He listens to this show and he's like, they got to give Billy some more air time. He's a real star.

Yeah. Yeah. He's like, dude, Billy's been making a lot of sense. Ideal body count for a senior in college. Jesus. All right. Let's do numbers. Oh, you know what?

Here. Well, no, we'll have your answer for you in one second. Tim Sebo was a virgin and he won the Heisman Trophy. No, we'll have your answer for you. What's an ideal body count? 25. 17. I'm going to say 22.

I'm going to say one. Okay, one. What do you got? Bubba. Bubba. No, we are. Say that six. 52.

If you don't fuck 52 chicks. Oh, eighth timer. New record. Whoa. 52. If you don't fucking 52 chicks. 52 is a little slut. You're a fucking, like you didn't even go to college, bro.

Or wait, you didn't even go to college. Was it talking about fucking or killing? No. Both. The Aaron Hernandez hat trick. Yeah. What if this was Ted Bundy who just wrote in? Um, yeah.

Love you guys. Love you guys. Yeah. 52. Does Billy have an animal fact for us? I have a baseball update as of two minutes ago. 4pm Eastern. John Heyman.

Players are expected to vote no on the quote best in final MLB proposal. Bam. Okay. Hang on. I'm going to Google animal fact for Billy. We'll update this at the beginning of the show. Yeah. Animal fact.

Did you know that elephants hold grudges? I think he's definitely done that before. Yes. Love you guys. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

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