Pardon My Take - Frankie Muniz, The Open Championship + Billy’s Return For Mt Rushmore Of Things That Kick It Up A Notch

Episode Date: July 18, 2022

Cam Smith wins the Open Championship robbing it from The feel good Rory McIlroy storyline. We get a comment from Cam for all the AWL’s live from Scotland. (00:02:34-00:27:59) Who’s back of the week including Fox making the worst graphic ever and Lebron at the Drew League. (00:29:23-00:41:26) Frankie Muniz joins the show to talk about his career as a child actor, race car driving, clapping back at people on twitter and tons more. (00:42:57-01:22:56) We finish the show with the return of Billy Football from his 1 month suspension and the Mt Rushmore of things that kick it up a notch (01:24:15-01:51:57)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we have Frankie Munez in studio, one of the coolest careers of anyone we've ever had in studio, former actor Malcolm in the middle, now race car driver. We also have the return of Billy football. His two years, one month's suspension is officially over. He joins us for the Mount Rushmore of ways to kick it up a notch. And then we have the, the open championship, incredible golf on Sunday. We're going to recap it all. Who's back? Great show coming up for you. It's brought to you by our friends from Coors Light. Summer is full of official events like weddings,

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And Cameron Smith is your open championship champion, the Aussie with the mullet and mustache. What a tournament. What a back nine. I'm trying to say nice things right now because I had Rory and everyone knows I had Rory. But what a tournament. What a back nine. There it is. It was incredible. The first Cameron to ever win anything, as far as I'm concerned. I can't think of another winner. That's a Cameron. Instead of subjecting you guys to my terrible Australian accent, I decided to actually just reach out to Cam Smith directly. So here's a little quote from Cam Smith, exclusive to part of my take on winning the open championship. All the AWLs out there. Incredible. Like so well said.

What a moment. I did, when he said that he wanted to figure out how many beers fit in the clear at Jug, I was watching that live being like, I just want to hear PFT repeat that back to us. How many beers fit inside this tremendous trophy right now? I reckon you could get a couple, maybe 13, 14, always called Coors Lights. Fantastic. Dude, he was insane. That was an insane back nine. He shot a 30. He just, every putt was either in or like, you know, the, the course, can we just talk about that course for a second? The fact that there are two, their shared greens just broke my brain for the entire afternoon. Like even, even the announcers at some points, they're like, Oh, well, he's shooting it here. But that you see that, that

flag over there, that's the 13th hole or something. What the fuck is this? It's weird. And sometimes if you hit a shot like closer to the other hole, you end up better than if you hit a straight shot that comes up like a little bit short on a par four to the hole that you're supposed to be shooting at. It's a bizarre course. And it's crazy because watching on TV, you'll see a player hit a shot that'll like run on to the green. And it looks great. But then the announcers are like, Oh, he is in deep hell that poor 12. And then every shot that that looks like it's shit. The announcers are like, Oh, poetic, heroic shot. It's like, wait, I don't, I do not understand links golf. I love having it once a year on TV. So I can, it will do like what you said,

it'll break your brain and it'll be interesting to watch. But yeah, it's tough. It's tough for us, even as dimpleheads as we are, it's tough for us to wrap our heads around this course. They would put shots like 30 feet away from the pin and the announcer be like, that's a terrible spot. He's got six mounds that he has to go over. It's like, what the fuck? And then the like we said on Friday, I know it's not fact because it's obviously a historic golf course and very difficult. But the fact that some of these greens are like 100 yards long and everything is on there, like I want to play there because everything's on. I know that everything's not on because you can hit it and it could be like, you have to chip from, you know, you're on the

green, but you have to still chip or you have to put it like 200 feet. But still everything is on. The whole course makes no sense. It was awesome to watch great fucking theater. And Rory, you broke my heart. I may never get over this one. I actually think it's a great equalizer. Equalizer, of course, I think that if guys like me and you played it against guys that are like, I don't know, Jake and Hank's level of golf, I think the scores would be closer together than they would at a normal golf course in the United States, where you like have to hit the right fairway and have to hit like clean approach shots because it is, it's crazy on the 17th hole when Cam Smith hit his drive. And as we know,

from talking to Shane Bacon, he should have hit it onto the 18th tee box and then shipped it over, but he didn't. He hit it and he was putting on a second shot. And the announcers were like, that is a terrible drive. And he was putting, he was putting two on a par four. And they're like, Oh, he's, yeah, he's fucked on this one. And then he hit a great putt to within two feet. At that point, it was kind of his tournament to lose. I do feel bad for Rory, because it felt like this was Rory's moment. It felt like everything was setting up given his history at that course. And it's probably his last time being able to be like truly competitive. No, St. Andrews. No, no, at St. Andrews. No, he's 33. How often do they play there? It's like

every four years or so every five years, every five years. No, you're thinking tiger, you're thinking tiger. No, with Rory, with Rory, he's gonna be 38 and he's gonna be slightly out of his prime. This was the last tournament. Yes, this was the last open at St. Andrews for Rory and his prime. I think he'll be I think he will absolutely be competitive at 38 as a golfer golfer is called forever. They're fucking they're ageless. Let's make a bet right now Rory at St. Andrews. I don't I don't think in 2027, I'm putting him he's not going to finish the top five. I mean that top five is very like you competitive like what is competitive though like he can top 10. Okay, I mean, but 38 is not out of his like he still will be very good in five years. Tiger is done.

That was it for tiger. And we did have like the journey. It was it was so set up for Rory, not only like the fact that he's been the darling of trying to save golf and being the most outspoken guy against live. And then it's you know, at St. Andrews, I don't know if you guys saw the story journalists were just coming everywhere when that when this story was written how tiger when he was walking up 18 for the last time, Rory was on one and he tipped his cap to him and tiger saw and they mentioned it after the tiger was like yeah, that was a great moment. Like that that was a moment if Rory had gone on to win the tournament, talk about passing the torch like that would have been a journalist wet dream for Rory to win that tournament. And he couldn't hit a fucking pot. He

couldn't hit a pot. He like all he had to do is hit a pot and he couldn't hit a pot. And I'm not saying that I could hit those pots, but I could have hit those pots and he couldn't. Well, it's not just him like missing pots. Camp Smith just couldn't he couldn't miss. He was locked in. I think he had nine fewer pots. Or as Asinger said right after it was over, he's like, I think Asinger said like 19 had yeah, like 20 fewer pots than Rory did. It's like, wait, that's, that's just impossible. There's no chance that that's that is true. He misread the one there was the stat though that that popped up that was like total yardage of made pots. And cam Smith was at like 90 or it might have been feet whatever feet probably

I'm thinking football football is back. It was like 90 feet and Rory was at like 27, which just tells you everything cam Smith was making the 25 foot putts and Rory was just two putting everything and having to get within five feet to then make it and it just you're right cam Smith like as much as you want to say it was a meltdown from Maria really wasn't like he he definitely could have made some putts to keep him he had the lead he could have made some putts cam Smith just played out of his fucking mind Rory didn't even finish second. Yeah, so that's what's crazy on the 18th hole. Rory put his his first shot, what was it like 20 yards short, and he had to try to chip up and down and get it in to force a playoff. But

because he went after the pin, he didn't make his putt after that because he was trying to sink his chip. And that that fact alone cost him like, I think $300,000. Whereas if he had just like put it close on a second try instead of going for the win. I mean, obviously, when you're Rory, you've made a lot of money already see you don't you're not thinking about that calculus of the $200,000. But the fact remains like second place was 1.5 million. Third place was 9.933,000. It's actually PFT the way to properly say it now in golf terminology. Rory just was $300,000 closer to signing with the live tour. Because all that money missed means that someday he might go in golf in Saudi Arabia. What were you going to say Hank, you had you had Rory as well,

which I'm now back to back majors, where I had the second plate, well, I guess he didn't finish second, the guy who was felt like he was going to win it all. And it all fell apart. I also had, I got to stop watching golf with my family, because it's just like I had Paw Patrol on one TV, golf on the other, trying to sweat it out, like just, it was just a disaster, disaster in my household again, as Rory couldn't put together a button. But what were you going to say, Hank? I was going to say, Camp Smith obviously played out of his mind. But if you're Rory and you're leading, leading the open and in the back nine, you only have one birdie, Camp Smith has six. If he just has two more birdies, he at least forces a playoff. Like

he didn't necessarily choke, but he didn't, he didn't deserve to win. Like he didn't, he didn't play the back nine like a champion. I like that. Hank, that's a great take. He didn't deserve to win. Yeah, it should have been at least a playoff. Like you go, you go one for nine birdies and Camp Smith gets six, like two, two more birdies from Rory and we're in a playoff. Rory, Rory played too comfortably. He was up three shots, I think at 10. And then he thought, okay, I all I have to do fairways and greens, like in 10 cup. And he didn't count on Camp Smith, just sinking anything within 50 feet. And they started doing the Rory package on the NBC, where they started playing the Rory clips from when he was hitting golf balls into his mom's

washing machine when he was 11 years old. They did the whole thing. They were like, this is his moment. This is his crowding achievement. What a what a moment for Rory's playing the best golf of his life as heard first by pardon my take. And it was his tournament. And then cam Smith, who is the problem is cam Smith is objectively a cool guy. He's got a mullet. He's Australian. He looks like an average Joe. And he went out there and played his balls off. So like, as much as I want to be mad about it, he was that he was that phenomenal that like, I had to sit back and be like, holy fuck, this guy cannot miss. Do you think that the fact that Rory is named Rory makes him more likable? Because I do think that that's a very sympathetic first

name. Like you can't hate a guy named Rory. And the accent, I think accents always just soften everything. Like the minute someone speaks, they have an accent, you're like, Oh, that guy's cool. I want to hang out with him. Yeah, I do love everything about cam Smith. His hair, his shitty mustache, his height, his Australian accent, like in my wildest dreams, I've been going as cam Smith for Halloween every day of my life. He's a he's a cool guy. And it was cool to see him when I don't like cam young, if we're going to power rank our cams, cam Smith one cam young, distant distant second way to stay relevant baseball, he's sponsored by Major League Baseball. I love that. It's crazy. I love that. It's crazy. I can't get enough of it. Yeah. And he, yeah, the cams

one and two, I was like, I fucking hate all cameras. And then someone pointed out, yeah, you do because they just showed a picture of Duke's court. And I was like, yep, I didn't even, I didn't even put that into my thought, like I didn't even put that in my brain. But yes, I do hate all cameras. So fuck all cameras for the rest of the life of my life and their life, we're gonna say Hank, I also like how they they give out a silver medal to the top amateur, but like no gold medal or bronze medal, like they just throw that in there. Oh, dude, that guy, you just get the silver medal. But but that would imply that there's like a gold or bronze, but it's just like, nope. That that Italian who won the low amateur,

I love saying amateur. And his Italian dad, he's Italian. And he was just crying and he was just like fist pumping. He's just like, that's my son. And he was crying. It was such a great moment. It's like, yeah, dude, that is your son way to go. Like that's just fucking sports right there. I love it. That's that's the Borelli household right there for you. Italian and tears. That's what they do. So because we have a big J on the show, Jake, I'd like you to chime in. How much did the sports journalism world lose today by not having the Rory story. And like I said, I read the article, it was so funny that they did a whole article solely about Rory tipping his cap to Tiger as Tiger walked up on the 18th. And like that, they lost the journalists lost today,

not as much to me in Hank, but journalists lost. Yeah, that definitely would have been nice. And I think journalists would have taken the opportunity to as well be like, look, you can still win a major and not go to live and still be successful. So screw you guys who want to live. Because they always just like emphasize doing what is quote unquote, the right thing to do. So that was a missed opportunity for them as well. Well, under the live rules, Rory would have won that tournament after 54 holes. That's true. And we would kind of cut out. Whoa, he would have tied out to play on that tour. Yeah, he wouldn't have gotten caught. And then he would have won the tournament. Yeah, there's no cuts. I also love I it's got to suck so bad to be the Victor Hovland's of the world.

I feel like that happens a lot in majors where there's like two guys, you know, the final pairing, and one of them just like we didn't even remember that he was he was tied for the lead going into the final round at the open, because he just like he wasn't even a thought he I thought about him for the first three holes. And then it was like, Oh, yeah, that guy, I forgot that he was there. The moment was definitely too big for him. He's one of those guys that when he gets on the green, he walks all the way up to the hole and then stands with both of his feet on either side of the hole and just just feels the slope with his body for a little bit. That's the only thing I'll ever remember about Victor. Well, I even Victor Hovland. Hovland. Yeah, Victor. The shot of the

tournament that almost was we almost got an albatross or a super eagle. I don't know which one you want to call it double eagle. I like calling it a super eagle. There was a shot that just bounced off off the pin and would have been a two on a par five, which is that's the rarest shot in golf. And that would have stolen the show right there. Yeah, what if there was also a guy who just had an eagle in I assume it was for presentation or something, but they showed a shot of the crowd right after cam one. And he was just standing there with an eagle on his arm. I was like, that's pretty cool. Like that's that's one of those ones that I assume that it's for the show. But also Scotland is just a totally different world where it might have just been like,

bring your own eagle. Like if you have an eagle, you're allowed to bring it to the open championship. Yeah, it's an emotional support eagle. There was actually there was a bird show somewhere in the United States this weekend where they had a Falcon reexhibit. And this dude brought his Falcon out to the middle. And there's a crowd of thousands watching him. And he sends his Falcon up to start flying. And then he just waits and waits. And he's like waving his hand up in the air. He's like, Okay, the Falcons coming back and he's second now. And the Falcon just decided like, peace out, fuck you guys. I'm gone and just became just became a wild bird again in the middle of the show. So awesome. I love it. I love it. Free that Falcon. And then

one last shout out to the Claret Jug guy, who that's got to be the most pressure of any job ever. He has to engrave the Claret Jug, like in the five minutes between the tournament ending and then doing the award presentation. I they showed him and he was just sitting there chiseling away. Like, do you think he's ever made a mistake? Because that's a lot of fucking pressure. For sure. I think the person that does the Stanley Cup names has that sort of pressure too. And they definitely have time. They definitely make mistakes, though. That guy's definitely made a mistake before it was cracking me up because the camera angle that they showed of the guy in his little hut, they like station him in a shack somewhere on the course. And he's just like

hunched over a table. And he's got the chiseling tool. But it looks like it's a straw going into his nose. And he just looked like he was just blowing lines backstage when the when the camera was on him. He might have needed to just like focus on this one moment where like he he he has basically an entire 365 day or 364 days where he just can chill. And then one day the most pressure in the entire world on his shoulders. Yeah, and he has to spell a name that's never been spelled on a major trophy before Cameron. Yeah, I would I would have fucked up like all day long I was I was mixing up Cam Smith and Cam Young when I was talking to people and I was like, oh, yeah, Cam Young is killing it right now. And then I have to remind myself, oh, no,

that's the bad cam. That's the other jam. That's the cam that sucks. What are you going to say, Jake? Yeah, so good news for Rory actually next year, the open championship that Royal Liverpool and that's where he won it in 2014. Okay, so that doesn't help us at all. I'm just saying for his for his sake. Yeah, he's going somewhere where he's won before. We'll pre bet it. Jake is always good at giving like the silver linings that I just want to be like,

shut the fuck up with that silver. Bookmark this next year. You're the king of it, Jake. There's no one there before. There's no one who has a rosier outlook on life than you in like just the worst times where I'm just sitting just stewing by myself just like like motherfucking everything. So I end up winning my bet today, but the way that I bet on golf sometimes is so stupid where I bet on like nine players before the tournament started.

Then I bet on two more players after the first round. Then I forgot and I realized, oh yeah, none of my bets that I put in on Thursday are going to hit at all. So then I just loaded up on cam and put like a little bit on Rory for today. I checked my account. I exactly broke back even on the entire tournament. That's how bad. But he was like, he was like plus 800 when I bet on him. That's how bad all my other bets were. That's a good tournament.

And we also got robbed of the max slam, right? He didn't make the cut. That was sad. He got to watch Tiger go across the bridge though. So good for him. I think that if you, if you had asked Max truthfully, what would you rather have happened? You barely make the cut and, you know,

you finish in like 40th place or whatever, or you get to play with Tiger on his last round at Sanders potentially and get to experience that moment. I think, I think Max is such a softy and such an emotional guy. He's like, you know what? That's a memory that's worth, that's worth more than any amount of money. And I kind of agree with him. Like that is an all time moment that he got to basically walk and stand right behind.

Like he showed, he put up a picture on his Instagram that was, you know, Tiger going across the bridge and he's standing right there. That's, there's only him and in Fitzpatrick are the only two guys that were that close. And we're like that in the moment. Do you blame yourself at all for Max's performance thinking that maybe there's an outside chance that the entire time he was thinking about Tiger Woods fucking his wife? No, no, I, no, I think that I should probably should have gone harder. I probably should have gone harder.

I think I should have been like, I should have been way more graphic about it. Cause, cause he didn't, he clearly was still like wrapped up in the tiger lore. I should have really just made Tiger such a detestable person to him that he was so focused that he beat his brains in instead he was like happy to be with Tiger. So I didn't do my job. So hand up. I didn't do my job. I didn't go hard enough on the idea that Tiger wanted to fuck.

Tiger probably wanted to fuck your whole family. Max, every single member of your family. So I should have said that before. Even your dogs. I think multiple dogs. So yeah, I should have said that. I should have gone really, really hard. That joke, by the way, I had a couple of people being like too far and I,

I actually can't tell if they're saying too far, like that's offensive to Max or too far because they're such tiger fans that they're like, that's not right to say that about Tiger. I think it's the latter. I think it's the tiger fans. Honestly, I think people got upset and uncomfortable about it because it was too close to the truth. I think people got mad because you were just too close to the truth. I think that you, I think you cut too close to the bone and people were like, uh, yeah, it's uncomfortable, but goddamn, it's probably true.

Like if, as they say, if you're taking flak, that means that you're over all the right targets, big cat. Yeah. It was, it was essentially like what everyone's thinking, but no one wants to say out loud. I just said it out loud. The tiger's just eyeing up all of Max's family and Fitzpatrick's family for that. And actually Fitzpatrick's adopted family in Boston too. He wanted to fuck them all.

That's just the tiger way. Tiger would fuck each and every one of us if he had a half second of opportunity. If a whole presented itself to him, tiger's swimming in it. Or if we were serving him pancakes at a Perkins, especially that then it's on site, then it's on site. Um, yeah, tiger, that was, I guess that was sad watching him walk up. I, I though, I assume that tiger's going to keep playing all the majors. So I feel like he's going to at least get to do that walk like six more times,

but that might be stupid. But if I were him, I would just keep playing all the majors and people will still like, think about it. Tiger's in that spot now where his legacy is completely cemented. He's the greatest of all time. He can show up to a major. Oh, you don't think so. Hank, you think it's still Jack McLeos?

Who's got more majors? Well, I mean, who played in more competitive era? How does that impact the bronze? It's not, it's not in the closet. You can only play when you play. Okay. All right. So, so tiger's the second best goal for all of all time, according to Hank.

Tiger fans. And the record books. He's at hen underscore ease on Twitter, uh, for any tiger fans that want to go after him. What I was going to say though, tiger basically can show up to a major and if he makes the cut, the story is about tiger. Like that's all he has to do. Everyone's just be like, Oh my God, tigers. All he has to do is put one low round out there and everyone's like, watch out for tiger.

That's a pretty cool spot to be in because like his reputation is so high that anything, anytime he plays like decent golf, everyone's going to lose their fucking mind and rightfully sell is. So his legacy is cemented, but is his brand cemented? That's the real question we should be asking ourselves. No, he needs to go to live. He needs to go to live tour. He needs to, he needs to conquer the live for that to happen.

Tiger Woods on the prowl in Saudi Arabia, he would be arrested very quickly. Yeah. They wouldn't, I don't think that would work. Anything else before we do who's back? Any other sports stories from the weekend? Juan Soto is probably going to get traded. I've, I've gone back and forth trying to figure out like, am I in denial about this? Have I reached the bargaining stage of this?

And right now I'm still in denial. I think that the nationals are going to make one more offer. And if they make an offer that's like 460 million or whatever, and he turns it down at that point, it's like, I don't know if that's worse because it's not like I can blame the team for cheeping out on it because they're giving him a shitload of money and it's not deferred money either. Like they did with Scherzer and Strasburg or they tried to do with Rendon too. This is straight up like, okay, here's a normal gigantic baseball deal for you.

You don't have to wait 20 years to collect all of it. And we can't blame the team for cheeping out at that point. But at the same time, it's almost a little bit worse because he's just saying no, like no matter how much money you pay me, I do not want to play in Washington DC for the rest of my career. So that kind of things too. And at this point, it's like, okay, if he doesn't want to take that deal, then we'll just, we'll have to trade him away, get a bunch of good players hopefully for him.

And you know what? We won a World Series. So we'll always have that at least. Yes. And he is the rare case where I don't think any dollar amount is enough because you're signing him, I think he's 23 years old right now. And so I think he's, I think he's got a couple more years of arbitration. And then it would be like 26, maybe 27, where he's a free agent.

It's, it is a very rare case where a lot of times in baseball, especially like 15, 20 years ago, guys would just get paid for past, you know, what they did in the past and not what they're going to be in the future. You're getting the future for him. And he is worth like every dollar. I actually saw someone set up like a dollar amount, like what each player is worth to the franchise. And like it was like for the Dodgers to trade to the Nationals.

And it was, it was like nine players. It was like nine players would be worth what, what he can bring to the team. That's how fucking good he is. Yeah. He's, he is worth every single penny. He's so fucking good. And I've just kind of, I guess I've reached the point where I'm like, okay, it's probably better if we trade him.

I don't want to trade him. I want him to be in that for life. I want him to accept that deal and retire when he's 38 in DC. And I want to watch him play for my favorite team for the next like 14 years. That would be awesome. But the reality is if he doesn't take this contract and he just doesn't want to play in DC, and you have to get what you can for him. And as it stands right now, he would get three more post seasons with whatever team

that we would trade him to before he reached free agency. So he's still worth a lot right now. He's worth a lot in terms of trade. So I hope he changes his mind. Juan, listen to me. Don't make me beg Juan. I will beg if that's what it takes. But listen, if you're going to, if you're going to go somewhere, please,

please just get it like a gigantic haul and make the Nationals competitive again, because it stinks having a team that's this bad to root for. Yeah, but it is true. Like you should, you should be rooting for a trade because he could basically revitalize the entire farm system with just one guy. That's how good he is. Right. You could, you could, you could basically set up your entire future with one guy.

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Okay. Who's back the week. Henry. My who's back the week is extremely insensitive graphics and MLB on Fox yesterday. It was Yankees Red Sox in the Bronx and coming back from commercial. The MLB on Fox team had a nice graphics package. That was a nice aerial view of the site where the Twin Towers were. It's now a memorial.

There's two pools like where the buildings were pools where the buildings were. And on this aerial view, they filled the two pools. They're two big squares with logos of the Red Sox and Yankees. So just a nice little, you know, sometimes they do the Statue of Liberty. Sometimes they do Times Square. MLB on Fox decided to go with the always fun and light hearted 9 11 memorial. Yeah, you could have picked any other location probably in the world, but definitely in the United States, any other space of land.

And they went with that one. It was shocking. I don't who thought that was going to be a good idea. Like because I'm usually not whenever Twitter and people get up in arms about something, I'm usually like, just chill out. Like it's not the end of the world. This one was just more like who the fuck thought that was going to be a good idea ever. Like it wasn't even it wasn't like I was personally offended.

I was more like, how the fuck did you not realize that this would would actually be offensive to a lot of people? Yeah. And that's where it's like, they always are like, oh, the intern that did this is getting fired. It's like, there's no way that for a Saturday night broadcast for Red Sox, Yankees that that's just like, you know, intern, make some graphics. We're not going to look at them. We'll just run them like that was the conversation probably went similar. Like ironically enough, like, you know, we always do the Statue of Liberty. Like what's what's something new we can do?

Like what's what's a new what's what's the new space? And someone was like, what about the 9 11 Memorial? And someone was like, yes, that's it. Go forward with that one. Yeah. Yeah, they could have done any other place. They could have done Three Mile Island. They could have done anything you name it. Just not that one location.

Did you guys see though? Because then someone said they are like the same MLB on Fox that tweeted the did you see it was like the double raise? It was a graphic from a few years ago. And I forget what the actual stats were, but it was like number of hits that this player has versus number of hits that this whole team has. And it was two bars going upwards with double raise logos floating around them. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that.

Like it looked like it was it looked like the towers and the double raise were the planes. Like it was it was one of those things where after seeing that it was like this is something weird is going on. Like this that this is too much of a coincidence. Jesus. I'll send I'll send the graphic. It was that one was. Oh, what the fuck?

Sorry. I just got a weird update on my computer. It was it was so it was so stupid that Twitter started marking it as sensitive material and blurring it. You know when it's like you need to opt in. That's how stupid it was. That they the Twitter was like, yeah, the Fox Fox just put fucking graph baseball graphics on the where the Twin Towers went down.

This shouldn't be seen. That's how fucking dumb it was. Yeah. Good rule of thumb is if you're doing a national broadcast in sports, just don't mention 9 11 or make any reference to 9 11. There's really no upside to it whatsoever. Unless it's George Bush's first pitch that he threw out in Yankee Stadium, in which case, yes, I will watch that every chance that I get. Yes.

It was Tampa Bay raised entire payroll for the past four years was 233 million. Wander, Franco's 12 year contract extension, 223 million. So it's two bars that are equally the same size. And then there's two double raised like floating around them at different heights. Holy shit. This is wild. So yeah, they got Mlb on Fox has some some PR to do. Yeah, they got it.

They got to figure this one out. They're going to have a big meeting about this one. I also have another one, but I think one of you guys is going to talk about it. Yeah, I do. I'm going to talk about it. Go ahead. PFT. Okay.

My who's back of the week is SEC media days. It's this week and SEC media days for the coaches are some of the best days. It's not going to be the same without having Spurrier around. It's been like that for the last couple of years. But that's always when Spurrier would that was his time to shine when he just go out there and just make fun of every other fan base in the SEC. So I missed that still. But tomorrow we get Brian Kelly, who's probably going to have a translator next to him so

that everybody can make sure that they understand what he's saying. And then Lane Kiffin is going tomorrow. But I absolutely love SEC media days because it always stokes the rivalry. And I'm sure this year, we're going to get some some content between Nick Saban and and jumbo Fisher. And it's going to be it's going to be incredible. Jimbo is going to be like ready to slap him in the face. And then who knows who knows what Nick Saban is going to say if he's going to take the

high road or not. Lane Kiffin is always fun. Brian Kelly is going to be fun just because he's brand new. So yeah, SEC media days are back. I can't wait to see because that means that football is back. Yes, yes, it is. I'm sure Lane or Jimbo and Nick Saban are going to get like Greg Sanky is going to put them in a hotel suite and just be like you guys don't say a fucking word.

Both of you guys like are in the doghouse with me because that's how the SEC always does this shit. That's why they're that's why they've ascended to where they are is Greg Sanky is like probably the best commissioner in any sport in any like league and anything. So we won't get the fireworks, but there will be the tension there that we want to see. There'll be the tension and also just the coaches that are in the SEC every one of them. It's a must watch like Mike Leach on an open mic. That's a point in television right there.

Yeah, they'll just go forever. All right, my who's back. I think this is what Hank was alluding to is LeBron. He played in the Drew League. I actually tuned in. It was a dude holding his cell phone in like the back row and they had it on the NBA app. I tuned in for a minute. LeBron cooked some guy and then missed a three and I was like, I've seen enough.

That's exactly what I want to see because I know that I'm sure he had some like crazy highlights. But it was crazy that like on a Saturday afternoon, everyone was furiously trying to get on the NBA app, which it just kept on like shitting out on me. But there was it was quite literally a guy with his cell phone. Just just videotape like half of the screen was just the fans in front of him. But I guess that just tells you what LeBron does. He's he shows up to the Drew League and that's what happens. I would imagine his Nike sponsorship.

They're probably not so happy because the Drew League is sponsored by Adidas. Someone should point that out. Probably a lot of money lost. Explain to me like I'm an idiot. What is the Drew League? California Summer League. It's in California. There was a few years ago.

There was like memories that came up because it was like when Kobe played. I remember this and I think it was Brandon Jennings got mad because he wasn't from California. Like it used to be a super, super like LA only just like pickup game. And obviously like during the lockout, a lot of NBA players played in it and that kind of blew it up. But it's it's just like a summer league that like NBA players will occasionally play. And obviously when the lockout happened, they were playing in it like every day, but it's just like a LA elite pickup game. Yeah, there's there's certain ones.

I think there's one in New York as well. And there they're basically like some NBA players like DeMar DeRozan was playing in it. And then he's from LA. Yeah, I know. But I'm saying like he was playing in it yesterday. Like there's NBA players are playing it and then like very good guys who were good in college who might play overseas just to, you know, keep sharp. And the Kobe one was awesome when he hit that game winner and like everyone just mobbed him.

And LeBron just wants to be Kobe. So that's why I mean, it was him and it was him and DeRozan. They won by two. Like that's that's tough. It was DeRozan probably carried him if we're being honest. Was Kyrie going to play? I saw that there was talk he would show up this year. Kyrie was at so there was rumors that Kyrie was going to play because he was at I think one of

his former coaches is now an assistant coach for the Lakers and he was at his summer camp like doing drills and stuff. So that's why I played today. Yeah, I saw a couple of highlights that was just Kyrie just like just didn't show up. But yeah, he was supposed to play. That's weird that Kyrie would do that. I saw a couple of highlights of dudes trying to guard LeBron and they were trying the hardest that they've ever tried at basketball in their entire lives because they're like,

this is my moment to shut LeBron down. Then LeBron would just hit him with a casual spin move and then walk away and the guys would be like, damn it. They should know though that if they ever do anything good against LeBron, it will just get erased from the internet like that last time when he got dunked on at that camp and my high schooler. Yeah. And then it got erased from everywhere.

But yeah, Ditas shadow Ditas sponsored the Drew League. Nice little pub for pub for them. I also saw LeBron dapped up LeVar, which was nice because you know LeVar was like, I could have fucking I could kill you one on one. If I want to date, they should let LeVar play in the Drew League. Imagine the ratings just one on one LeVar versus LeBron would be so great. I'd watch that. Like this is the time right now when we're we just fell off a sports cliff with the open

championship being over. Give us LeVar versus LeBron one on one. And we'll just take whatever tiny little highlight that LeVar has or whatever minor like LeBron dribbles the ball off his foot one time. Boom. That's the highlight for the entire tournament. That would be the easiest. That would be 11.0.

That would be 11.0. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, Jake, finish us off with who's back. My who's back is the booth. Fortunately, I am back this weekend. ESPN plus Saturday night. We have Redwoods Atlas and Whipsnakes Chaos.

So thank you to ESPN and the PLL for giving me another chance. Let's go. I'll just tune in. You've done a great job in the booth so far. I keep waiting to to pounce on the mistake that you're making. You're not giving me any opportunity. You're pro's pro. Thank you.

Don't jinx it. But yeah, two more games Saturday night. I'll be in Fairfield, Connecticut. And yeah, please tune in. Does that make you nervous, Jake? Knowing that we're watching and we're like, if you screw up just even a little bit, we are going to make it the biggest deal ever.

I'm just going to tune this out and see what happens on Saturday. We're going to tune you. Yeah. Yeah. So you just want me to screw up. No, no, no, no, no, no. No. Maybe.

No. No. Just say no, PFT. We know we do. No, no, no, no. What we're saying is if you do screw up, we will make it like you thought that we were hard on Tom Breneman. Like we're going nuclear on you.

Yeah. Let's just hope it's something. It's a mistake that we can joke about after and it's nothing like, oh no. Yeah. Like maybe you have a cheesesteak before the game would let us in tomatoes on it and then you have to just run out of the booth real quick and crap yourself. No, that would be too much. And let me just say to all the AWLs, the offer still stands.

If you don't watch this, we will come and murder you. And also you can help us out by nitpicking everything Jake does and sending it to us. Fair enough. The All-Star game happened this weekend. They had a rule after you guys, the bonus ball. Yeah. Yeah. I love it.

Dude, what was the final score? What was the final score? I believe it was 33 to 13. So it was. Okay. So it worked. So the over probably hit. So more points.

That's all you need in an All-Star game. All-Star game should always, the over should always hit in the All-Star game. I'm not just saying that because I lost betting the over in the WNBA All-Star game last week. But every All-Star game, the over should hit. That should be a rule. It should be like a free bet for everyone who watches the All-Star game. Everyone wants to see points. No one wants to see defense.

Every All-Star game should have a bunch of points. And then like one old guy in his last year that retires and gets a big curtain call. That's all I want in the All-Star game. Yes, exactly. Okay, let's get to our interview. And then on the other side of the interview, we have the return ability football with Mount Rushmore. Before we do the interview, PFT had a sponsor.

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And now here's Frankie Munez. Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. I'm not even going to say actor. He's a race car driver. He's a truck driver. Right? Like should we just do it that way now? It's Frankie Munez.

Yes, I mean, I've been fortunate to do a lot of different things in my life. But my main focus is racing. I'm fortunate enough to get to kind of look back at my life and think of the things I've gotten to do in the past and where I really want to focus my future. And that's where I feel the most at home. But there's also a weird element. We were just talking, I have a 15 month old son. And I feel like most people, when they have a kid, slow down and want to do less dangerous things.

Me, it was more, I wanted him to be able to watch me going after, like grow up with me going after my dream. Right. You know what I mean? And the passion and the hard work. And rather than me just sitting at home, you know, or being some lame actor, I mean, you know, I got to work for this. I want you to, you know.

I think you're not a lame actor. But is that so? Obviously, you know, it's great to have you in here. The people will know you as an actor, but are you hoping that someday you're known more as a race car driver or truck driver? It's truck, right? Well, yeah, let's look back up. Yeah.

So, you know, motorsports in general, I started racing in 2005. I was doing open wheel stuff like IndyCar, Formula One. I raced in Champ Car, Atlantics. I got really badly hurt in 2009. I broke my back, pins put in my hand, broken ankle, broken everything. And always thought I'd go back racing. I always knew I had, in my mind, unfinished business. But the injuries took a pretty long time to heal.

So, I missed the next season. And then life takes over. Right. I mean, I joined a band. I was on tour and always said I'd go back racing. But the years just keep passing by. I'm 36. I'm not getting any younger.

It's a young man's sport. If I'm going to do it, I want to do it. And I want to be able to look back and go, you know what? I accomplished what I was going after. And I felt like this was what I want to do. Like I said, I raced open-wheel stuff. I love the idea of racing in NASCAR. I love that idea for you.

Yes. I want that to happen. Yes, you should. Yes. Let's do that. So, this past couple months, I've been doing a lot of stock car stuff, pro-late models, with the intention, yes, that I want to race trucks. I want to race in the Xfinity series, ARCA, NASCAR.

But I'm saying motor sports in general because I just want to race cars. I want to be a race car driver. I want to go fast. What's the fastest you've ever been? Probably 205. Damn. Yeah. You know, it's funny.

The tracks that you go really, like the really high-speed tracks, actually don't feel as fast as some of the smaller tracks. I'll be going 100 miles an hour. You're on the limit. That's when you feel like you're going fast. You have the car sideways. So, you know, it's not just about like that top speed. But, you know, I did the ARCA test at Daytona at the beginning of this year.

You know, you're going 100 and 90, 200 miles an hour. But it doesn't, you want to go faster. Right. You know, it's a big, big place. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's all relative. Is speed addictive?

You know what's funny? I feel like once I became a race car driver, I became, I actually go a lot slow, like in my, in real life, like in the car, in my cars. I don't want a sports car anymore. I ride motorcycles, but like I've gone from having super short bikes to like cruisers, because like there's nothing like the speed of being in a race car or like driving on a limit with other people. In the street, I'm just going to get in trouble.

You know what I mean? But I don't know if, if speed is necessarily addictive as much as the competitive, like I'm super competitive. I want to win. I want to beat you. You know what I mean? And I think that's more addictive. You know what I mean?

Like the, the working hard. Going fast is the other guy. Right. Going fast is better than just like going fast. If we're racing smart cars, you know what I mean? And going 50 miles an hour, I just want to beat you. That's, that's what is addictive, not necessarily the, just going fast. Cool.

Your career is crazy because, you know, we're, we're the same age as you. So we remember Malcolm in the middle. We remember watching it. I think there's a preconceived notion with child actors where it's like, oh, a child actor, like that's got to suck when they grow up. And I love, but I love, you can tell me I'm way off. I love that you are very open with, no, my life is pretty sweet. I get to do everything I want to do.

Well, I know there's most child actors, yes, do have a ginormous decline. Right. Me, I've always just, as cheesy as it sounds, I've gone after my dreams. Like I, and I look back and I go, I'm lucky. You know what I mean? A lot of people look at it and go, oh, like, I know so many actors, child actors or even adult actors who, for some reason, they get on these TV shows. They have all this success, but they're miserable.

Right. And they want, I want off the show. I want to do movie. It's like, you don't understand how lucky you are and you have it because it's going to end. Eventually it's going to end. So me, I went from acting. I wanted to go into racing. I wanted to push it a hundred percent.

So I kind of left the acting world, did that. I got to do the band. I've owned a bunch of businesses. I've been fortunate to do everything I've wanted to do. And I know I'm lucky, you know what I mean? Right. But in that same sense, I've always felt like I was running out of time. So I, a lot of my passion and me going after all these things is I want to live the most

fulfilled life I can, you know what I mean? For me, you know, I want to look back and go like, man, I didn't waste any time. Like I got to do everything I ever dreamt of. And, you know, hopefully in doing those things, I'm being the best I can be. I'm doing the best I can be with them. I'm not doing this stuff as a hobby. Like I don't want to be a race car driver just because it's fun. I want to do it because I want to be the best.

I want to win a championship. I want to win races. And I want to be remembered as a great race car driver, as well as a great actor or whatever. I'm not ashamed of anything I've done in the past. Right. Well, maybe a few things. Well, that does have to be a weird feeling too.

You know, it's got to be bizarre to be able to watch back your acting and like be like, that's when I was growing up and like my formative years and it's all on display. It's not obvious. It's scripted, so it's not reality television. But still like to look back and be like, whoa, that's like, I can't imagine the mind fuck if any of us were able to look back and see like us grow up on screen. It's got to be a little weird. It is, you know, it's people ask me all the time.

They go, you know, are you sad that you didn't get to go to high school prom or these things? And I was like, well, no, I got so many incredible opportunities and, you know, I was at the Academy Awards. Right. I was at the Emmys. Right. You know, I was at the Playboy Mansion when I was 15, you know. That's pretty sick.

Way cooler than prom, trust me. Yes, yes. So I don't know, you know, it was. That's like when Playboy was like. Oh, that was when it was like it. Yeah, you know. That is all you could have just said that. Not to like urge prom, no bullshit.

Yeah. Playboy Mansion. You got to hang out the grotto. All the time. So, you know, I, I look back and I go like, no, I was completely lucky. I don't take it for granted, you know what I mean? But, but no, I'm sorry. No, yeah.

You touched on something real quick that was, it makes a lot of sense. I think a lot of people in Hollywood especially are just, they don't know how to be happy. And just because they're being successful at whatever show is on, if they're, you know, at the top of the A list, if they're getting invited to all the good parties, they're still not really happy. They're just like. I don't know what that is. I like, I've thought about it a lot because I like, I have, it took me, I think stepping away

to, you know, because when you're in it, like it's just your life, right? Like when you're filming a show every day, it's just what you do, you know what I mean? And, and maybe you don't take it all in at that time because you think, oh, yeah, yeah, this is what I do. This is what I do. I go to these shows. I go to this premiere. I have to fly here.

I have to do that. And it just becomes what you do, right? But it took me, when I stepped away, I look back and I go, wow, that was awesome. And if I ever have an opportunity again or whatever I'm doing, I'm going to take full advantage of that and know that this is a great experience. I want people to leave who I work with who go, man, he's a great guy. He puts a hundred percent effort. You know, I never complain.

I don't want to go home. You know, like that's how I want to be remembered. Right. I mean, and, but I feel like it took leaving to see that. I think that's a healthy perspective to have too. Yeah. And if you're in it for too long, then your entire self-worth gets based on what other

people are saying about you. Yeah. And then the second they turn on you, it's like, it crushes you. I think that's why a lot of child actors end up going down a bad path is you're also so used to your life being like everybody, you know, giving you whatever you want or doing whatever you want. And there's like, there's like the endorphins are a high that come with that. And then it goes away and they need something to fill that void.

And they, you know, cocaine. Well, yeah, it's okay. I think it's also like the pressure the the public puts on child actors where it's like, if they don't become adult actors, it's always like, what happened to that person? Yeah. And it's like, what happened to Frank Amina? Well, he's living an awesome life and he's going after all his goals. And that doesn't compute to a lot of people.

I never, people, I remember being, you know, 17, 18, 19, I was on Malcolm still and everyone would always be like, you know, how are you going to make that transition to adult actor? And and my answer used to be like, well, when I turn 18, I'm legally an adult. If I'm still acting, I'm a little act like, I don't know. I don't know. There's no like science behind it. Right. But in that same sense, I, I never let that change decisions I made or affect decisions

or things that I wanted to do or was like, well, I have to make sure I make the right decision to get me to be an adult actor. If it works out, it does. I think one weird thing for me is I was in the height of my acting career, like on the show. And I decided to like say, hey, I'm not going to do anymore. I want to go race. I want to do this.

I want to focus on this. I want to, you know, if I'm going to do something, I want to do it a hundred percent. And I don't know if a lot of people know that, you know what I mean? Right. So maybe in some eyes, they think that I, I failed as an actor. I didn't make it, you know what I mean? Right. In the end, like, I know I'm happy with the decisions I made, you know what I mean?

Yeah. I can't help but think that at times where I go like, what if I did stay? Like, where would I be? Or what would have happened? Right. You know what I mean? But I think me as a person, the best thing I could have done is what I did. Right.

I think it's a healthier choice that you made. Like a much, much better for your mental health to do something like that than to like be wrapped up in something that you might not have as like a long term goal. Then you're just like fighting, trying to be happy. Yeah. You know, you're always fighting against the possibility of being upset. But I guess you, the only career decision I would say that I would vehemently disagree with is becoming a Clippers fan.

Yeah. Because you are the only Clippers fan. Well, Penny Marshall's passed away. So Billy Crystal, I think, is being the only one. He only goes to the big games. Yeah. It's not a real one. You're the world's only Clippers fan.

Huge Clippers fan. Our friend Jimmy T. T. Roe. We'll see. An enormous Clippers fan. I became a Clippers fan because I played like NBA Live 94 on Super Nintendo or whatever it was. And the Clippers were the only team that I didn't mind deleting all the players because I didn't know any of them work. And I, it was like, I put myself, my dad.

And of course I was 99 and everything. My cat was a player. You know what I mean? So then I was like, I'm going to be a Clippers fan. Right. I grew up in New Jersey. Is that real? That's really the story.

That's awesome. And so I take you back. I'm glad you're a Clippers fan. So then in 97 or whatever was like the first time I went to LA. Like I went to a Clippers game at the sports arena and there was like seven people there. And I don't know. I just, I loved, I loved it. Like I loved, even though they didn't win often, I loved having a team that I supported.

And, and you know, but I spent a lot of money going to games to be miserable. Yep. And that's one of the things I look back and I go like, wow, I literally paid money to be angry. Yeah. That's sports fandom though. That's every, like there's only one winner every year. I'm a Washington Commander's fan. I get it.

But you did yours by choice though. That's the difference. Like I just kind of had to be because I grew up around it. You're like, you know what? Yeah. The Clippers, that seems, seems like a good investment. If you saw that I have in storage bins of like everything that I could find, because you rarely could find Clippers stuff.

Right. Like if you go, you know, you go to sports stores, nobody had Clippers stuff because nobody bought it. But if I found it, I bought everything. I have every Clippers item I could ever find for like 20 years. Who side did you take in the Chris Paul, Blake Griffin saga? Answer carefully. I don't, I don't know. I mean, I don't know.

One of them is a friend of ours. Both of them are friends of mine. Okay. But who's a better guy? Who's a better guy? I don't know. Be careful. I don't want to be put on a spy like I don't.

Just be honest. Yeah. But be careful. So one A, one B. Be careful. I was a big Blake Griffin saga. Yeah, there we go. Good choice.

Good job, Frankie. I live in Phoenix now though, you know what I mean? So like I'm not necessarily a Suns fan, but I root for the city, you know what I mean? Yeah. I want, you know, obviously, you know, Chris Paul's done great with the Suns. Oh, has he? I guess. Like seating wise.

Yeah. Yeah. One of anything of note. Yeah. Well, better than Clippers. Yeah, yeah. You got to be excited about this year though, right? Like John Wall, this is the year, right?

Kawhi may be coming back. I've said this is the year every year since 1994, you know? So I don't know, you know, like, you know, to be honest, I'm going to be 100% in front of you with you guys. I have not watched a basketball game in maybe three years. Oh, wow. So to be honest, I'm just being, I don't know what happened because like it was literally my life. Like all I cared about was the Clippers and basketball.

Yeah. I don't know. You were a Clippers fan. That's probably the answer. Probably. Yeah, it's like, why don't I like this? Well, they became like super trendy too. I think it kind of became like cool.

It's kind of cool to be a Clippers fan. When they traded away Blake Griffin. Yeah. You stopped watching basketball. That's loyalty right there. I respect that. Yes, I love that. That's it.

100%. The other thing I was wondering, your Twitter is very funny because I think it's, well, just like, you know, it'll pop up every now and then you'll go viral. I do love the one time I have this, someone said, I don't even know if you remember this, someone said, your acting is just awful. Sorry, but it is. And you replied, yeah, but being retired with 40 million at 19 has not been awful. Good luck moving out of your mom's house before you're 35.

I just love that. Look, sometimes you, you know, people, the internet is filled with hate, right? And people sling mud because they can. I never, but every once in a while you have to punch back. Yes. Yes. You got to slap some people around. Just let them know.

You know what? You're right. Yes. My acting is awful. But you know what's not. So I don't know. Sometimes I just had to punch back. Well, is it objectively awful?

If you're getting paid for it, somebody thinks it's good, right? Well, look, I've never, I've never claimed to be a good actor. Right. I've, yes, I was an actor. I did what they told me to do. I said what they said, told me to say. And sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't. You know what I mean?

But yeah, sure. Yeah, right. And the other one I wanted to read to you that's very funny is you said, you know, when you look in the mirror and realize you'll never be as good looking as Zac Efron and you'll always be Frankie Munez looking motherfucker. Imagine being Frankie Munez. Yeah, you know, I know where I stand. Right.

You know, I was never, I wasn't, I wasn't a heartthrob. I was, I was not in a lot of Teen Beat magazines. You know, I, I was a funny, awkward kid and it worked for Malcolm in the middle. Yes, yes. I've got a couple more examples here. This is, this one's a little darker. Maybe you can explain this one. I have about four dreams a week that I get shot in.

Last night I could actually feel the burn of bullets as they entered my chest and heart. Do you still like constantly dream about getting shot? I do actually. I don't, I don't, I'm not like a dream person, right? Where like some, some, I'm sure it can tell me that that means something is haunting me in my life or whatever it may be. But honestly, like I have those dreams all the time and they're awful. That sounds, yeah, it sounds terrible.

Yeah. Like four times a week. Do you have any enemies? I'm sure. I mean that, that apparently. I would be afraid to fall asleep if I were you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's, it's weird.

I honestly like, I, I, I wake up all the time with that, like the feeling of just like, oh good thing, thank goodness I woke up. Yeah. You might just have sleep apnea. Maybe. That's, I've always heard that like if you, if you experience something painful in your sleep, you can just write it off to sleep apnea. Oh yeah.

Like go get a mask and then you stop dreaming about that weird stuff. Maybe I, on it, I, I really truly feel like I know what it feels like to be shot. That's crazy. I mean, I don't shoot me. I don't want to like find out. You already know, yeah. But like bad. That's nuts.

Yeah. What, uh, you also, I mean, your, your career has been fascinating. You, you're in the olive oil business? Yeah. Still? Not anymore. We, we sold the company. Okay.

Cause I was going to say, did you just do that so people could be like, he might be in the mafia? Cause that's like, that's all you hear. Like olive oil business. What made, what made you do that? To be honest, my wife, um, we were looking at businesses that she, that she could be have or, or do and we randomly had gone to this olive oil company and they were like, it's for sale. And I was like, I'll buy it.

Okay. Another one of those on a whim, like I, I, I knew I loved business. I wanted to be involved. Like I love the kind of the behind the scenes, um, aspect of, of businesses. And it was something that she was passionate about and we did it. And then it ended up becoming like a huge passion of mine. Like I loved, uh, um, everything about the business and, and olive oil and the, and the benefits and the science behind it.

And we sourced from 14 different countries. Um, we got everything tested by a third party to make sure it was the highest rated olive oil, the freshest in the, in the country. And we became one of the biggest olive oil companies in the US. And you sold it for a profit? So, oh yeah. That's crazy. I mean, we, it's one of those things we look back at now, we go like, that was pretty cool.

But like in it, it was way more work than you could imagine. You know what I mean? Like it was, it was definitely, it's not an easy business. Like it's very time consuming. And, and, uh, she had gotten pregnant and, uh, a couple came up to us and they were like, we love your business. Like, would you ever want to sell it? And I, I set up a stupid number and it was there as a week later.

That's amazing. So I mean, we do miss it. You know, we miss having a business. But at the same time, like we had the baby. And now you can go buy another business if you want. Yeah. So at the time, when you were selling olive oil, do people know like this was your olive oil company?

I mean, I, I was there pretty much every day. We had, we had a storefront. And there were times where people would be like, why are you here? Like, why are you, oh, oh, you're selling olive oil now? I'm like, yeah, but I, I mean, it's my, I own it. It's fun. Yeah. And I, and I enjoyed it.

Like, it was one of those things that like, that was what I wanted to focus on. And, and I wanted us to be as big as we could. And we worked really, really hard at it. And that's just kind of what I've, I try to do with everything I do. And, you know, especially, especially now with motorsports. This is, this is great. Cause I like, you really do have a fascinating career. I also, there's like a moment in time that some of our listeners probably won't realize,

but like, like I said, we're the same age as you, you were on the first ever episode of punked. Is that correct? Yeah. Like this is like, this is, this is shit that should be remembered forever. Cause punked was a huge, huge cultural phenomenon. You were, you know, at the nadir of your like acting. So what, what do you, what'd they do? How were you punked?

I, I did a movie with a Sean Levy who now created and directs Stranger Things and all that. And Ashton had did a movie with him as well. And they called and said, we want to pitch you an idea for a movie. So I met them at the standard hotel. And I had a big car collection then. And I think they were assuming I was going to drive. There's a big backstory behind it. But anyway, I show up at the hotel and Dax, who wasn't Dax then.

All right. I didn't know who Dax was. He's just a guy. He's like Ashton's buddy. He's like, I'm Ashton's assistant. He's like, the parking lot's full park across the street. So he helps me get across the street, park my car, go in, have the meeting with Ashton and Sean Levy and a bunch of some weird things happened that they didn't show like in the,

in the hotel that I think that they thought I would like question. But it was LA. You know, I was like, oh yeah, people fight and it's fine. And I go out and my, the valet said that Dax wanted me to move his, my car and he took it. And like, so it was a 1956 Porsche Speedster. It was a very, a car I never drove and never parked, but I was late and I don't know. I don't know why I brought it. And I freaked out and I had left my phone in the car, which worked great for the episode.

Right. Because then I'm calling my phone Dax answers. Right. You know, I'm like, dude, you're in my car. You know, it was this whole thing. But yeah. That's amazing. Yeah.

It was me and Justin Timberlake on the first, the first episode. Yeah. That's incredible. I think all you have to do on that show is not like flip out and threaten to assault somebody and then everybody will love you. Yeah. I think it was, I think it was the first time like I like said a bad word on TV. You know, I was like, I was like, I started cursing out the valet guy.

You know, they're, they're probably like, that's awesome. That's what I think sound like. It's like Frankie Mooney is being like you motherfuckers. Yeah. We got him. But then they, they end up, my car drives into the parking lot and Ashton gets out. And he's like, you got punked. And I'm like, where's the asshole stole my car?

You know, I didn't even understand what they were talking about. Because punked wasn't a thing. It wasn't a show. It wasn't a show. It was a thing. I'm like, how'd you find it? He's like, you'll understand what that means in five years. Yeah.

Wow. Yeah. That's perfect. So funny. Yeah. Yeah. That's like the, like that was again, that's something people probably won't, some people won't understand how big punked became and how big you were and all of that coming together.

That was a, that was a huge, huge show. Yeah. That's you and Justin Timberlake first punked. I do have a couple of Malcolm in the middle questions just because like Big Cat said, we did grow up watching it. Yeah. And you've probably heard this one a million times, but Brian Cranston as, as the father on the show, a lot of people don't realize that when Breaking Bad finished,

he included like a spoof throwaway scene of like, in, I think it was a DVD box set being like, all of Breaking Bad was just a dream that I had on Malcolm in the middle. Yeah. Yeah. But, but working with him as an actor, there's clearly always been something incredible about the way he goes about his business and like being on that show. He really helped to make that show.

Was he, was he like intimidating at all to work with? Or how was that for you as like a young actor, working with somebody that was so like great at their profession? You know how I said that I want people to work with me and have nothing but positive things to say? I learned that from Brian. Honestly, the most amazing human alive, you know what I mean? He showed up to work a hundred percent professional put, he'd be off camera.

You have some people throw away their line. He did the same performance every time and just the nicest guy. So as far as me, like, you know, when we're on Malcolm, it was, he was Brian Cranston, but he wasn't, I think the Brian Cranston that Brian Cranston is now, you know what I mean? But I'm so happy for him, the success that he's had since. I mean, Breaking Bad was insane, amazing. He's such a good actor, but I don't know.

I wanted to say intimidating because he really became like a father figure to me. Like honestly, he's still to this day. The show ended 16 years ago. He still calls all the time to check in. Brian Cranston calls me. That's cool. You know what I mean? That's very cool.

Because he cares. And that's, I always remember that. You know what I mean? Yeah. I haven't talked to anyone else from the show. Oh. Print that. Fuck you, do it.

They don't call me. No, that's awesome. Actually, that's the exact right answer that I wanted to hear. Yeah, no, he's so cool. You have an impression of people. You never know what they're like until you actually sit down and know them for a while, but he's always struck me as somebody that, like everyone has positive things to say. Yeah.

And working with him closely at that time must have been, it must have been really interesting to see him like, because that's the role that I think took him from being, you know, like a kind of mid name for TV actors. And it like elevated him because on a show that was kind of, it was sitcom-y, but it was, you know, single camera, it was a little bit different. But it took him and elevate him to really like the top tier of television actors, which just launched him into a different stratosphere. Yeah, what's funny is they, when we did the pilot, they didn't have him cast until the day

we started filming, like they couldn't find and they're like, I guess it'll work. And then they were going to write that character kind of out of the show. But Brian was so good, you know what I mean? I watched, I rewatched all the episodes, because I'd never seen him when they aired. I rewatched all the episodes with my wife a few years ago. And to me, Brian made that show, like his comedy and like he was so good. But the first time we ever met him, we were literally on set ready to film the first scene. And it was the scene where our mom is shaving him at the kitchen table of the first episode.

And he comes on set and he had like a skin toned Speedo on. And he's all covered in hair. He's like, hey, I'm Brian, I'm going to be your dad, you know? And just the coolest guy, like, you know, and so it's weird to think that if any actor on the show, on most shows, if he didn't get cast, the show would have been completely different. I don't, maybe it wouldn't have been nearly as successful or not. And then you wouldn't have had, if you think the domino effect,

there would have been no breaking bad. There would have been no, you know. Yeah, better call Saul. We're so lucky. Yeah. So you just watched the series all the way through a couple of years ago for the first time? Yeah, yeah. What was that like?

You know, it's funny because I don't, how do I put this? I don't, I could watch it as a, as like a spectator, as a fan. Like I didn't, I didn't see it as me, you know what I mean? And then also we did so many episodes. I actually didn't remember what most, what happens in most of the episodes. I could actually watch it, but it definitely changed my perspective of what the show was. Like I, like the comedy even, when we were filming it or we were doing it, I imagined that the show was different than it actually ended up being.

You know what I mean? And there were characters that when I was filming, I was like, this is stupid. That actually were my favorite, they ended up becoming some of my favorite moments when I rewatched the show. You know what I mean? But I, I, I enjoyed, I enjoyed it. You know, I, there's been a lot of, I don't know, speculation about like my memory. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that I feel like I did so much,

like so many episodes, so many things, and you just kind of do it. You know, you film and, but I think the biggest thing for me is I don't distinguish, there's three things, things that I dreamt. I go like, did that happen? Because I've had so many crazy dream-like things happen in reality. But then also like most of my life and most of my childhood, I was pretending to be someone else, you know what I mean? Right.

And like doing things that I had to do that weren't really me, you know, so there's an element of like. Yeah, you were Malcolm, right? Yeah, you know. I also think if you're, if you're performing, if you're doing, like for example, we do this show, we've done it three days a week for the last six years. I don't remember much, like 30 minutes after the show. I don't really remember what I said.

And sometimes it takes people to like remind us the next day, and they like send us a quote that we said on the show. Like, oh yeah, I remember that. Yeah, yeah. That was great. But like you don't, you don't necessarily absorb all the stuff as you're doing it. My memory of Malcolm, or filming Malcolm, is what I've now seen on camera. Right.

Because that's the last, you know, like I, I see that. Or, you know, my, my memory of most of my life comes from like seeing pictures. So I see it almost from the outside. I don't necessarily, I don't know what that is. If it was that you just do so much or you talk so much or, you know, you do so many shows that they all kind of come together. Yeah. Or you get used to kind of being in the moment and doing it and then,

you know, go on to the next part of your life. But yeah, I don't know. What, what, what did happen? I know you mentioned your health. Like there was a moment there where I think I remember reading. It was like amnesia or something. You had concussions. Yeah, I've had nine concussions, which is not great.

Yeah. Are those all car crashes? No, a lot. I played football and basketball. I played every sport when I was growing up and you always fell and hit my head. I'm really close to the ground. So it's easy to hit my head on the ground. Um, no, so there's that.

And then I was, and this only recently figured out wrongfully diagnosed with having TIAs, like mini strokes, like transient ischemic attacks. I was having these episodes where like I lose my vision. I couldn't recognize faces, couldn't talk, like all this kind of stuff. And it was happening pretty, pretty regularly. And I was told that I was having mini strokes or TIAs, which is a pretty big deal. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Only to find out after doing, like continuing to go, because they would do all these tests. And none of the things that should have shown up were showing up, but they were still kind of saying, yeah, it's this, it's this, this, this. Finally, I had a doctor really kind of look into it and it ends up, I was just having aura migraines, which still sucks. Yeah. It's still awful to have those episodes. But part of the, the story of, of how it kind of spread, you know, I did Dancing with the

Stars in 2017. And they have an episode where it's the most, most memorable year episode. And they told me that my most memorable year was 2001. They told you it. And I go, I don't, I don't really have anything to tell. I don't really know what happened in 2000. Like, I don't know what to say. It's like, why?

And I go, and they're interviewing me. And the way it got cut together and the way they put it was that I have zero memory of anything. And then the press took it and it, and now if you search my name, it basically says I don't remember. Like 51st date, my wife has to wake up every morning and like, tell me who she is. This is your son. And she plays a video, you know, like, no, no, I know I was Malcolm.

You know, I just, I did a lot of stuff. You know, I don't, I don't remember everything. Yeah. I mean, there's, I, I oftentimes like have not memory issues, but like, there's definitely a lot of things that I don't, like someone will remind me of something. But like, oh yeah, I don't really remember that. I was with my grandpa yesterday. He's 95 years old.

You know what I mean? And he's like, did you remember? We went to that Papa John's and I'm like, no. Yeah, right. My 95 year old grandpa can remember, but I don't, you know, It was memorable for him. It might not have been like that sticking point for you. Yeah.

Yeah. But I, I like to now talk about it a little bit because now that I have a better understanding of, of what it is or what I think it is, you know, because people come up to me all the time and they're like, oh, do you, do you know who you are? That's crazy. Your name is Frankie. You know, you're an actor. You know, trying to be a race car driver, you know.

That's nuts. But the, uh, the aura of migration, is there anything that you can do to like stop those or slow them down? I'm trying to figure out now if there's something that triggers it. You know what I mean? Like am I eating something? You know what I mean? Or is it, uh, high stress situations?

I'm trying to figure that out now, but, uh, I haven't had one in, in a few years. Oh, good. Knock on wood. Yeah. So now, right now, you're allergic to olive oil. It would be, it would be great for the show. You might have fixed it. Yeah.

It would be great for the show if you had one right now. I'm not saying anything. Do you want to fake one? Yeah. Where am I? I have, uh, another, uh, random thing I, I read that is kind of a sad one, but you met Dale Earnhardt right before he passed away, right? I did.

Yes. I, uh, I was at the 2001 day two and a 500 because Malcolm had premiered the year before, um, I was the grand marshal. I drove the pace car and I was a big racing fan at that point. Um, and I got to go into the driver's meeting and as everyone was getting in the, in their cars, I was on the grid, uh, Dale Earnhardt came up to me and he goes, I set the say, he's like, you brought me and my daughter so much closer, your show. He's like, I love your show.

I'm a huge fan. I'm like, uh, Dale Earnhardt. Yeah. He signed my jacket and he got in his car. So like other than his crew chief, essentially I was the last person to talk to him and we were in the M&M's car, Ken Schrader's pit when, and he's the car who crashed into Dale Earnhardt. And, uh, my mom was hanging out with, uh, the owner of, um, uh, the track and, and after the race, everyone was kind of worried, but nobody really knew anything.

And I went to the hotel to watch Clippers game. I ran, ran upstairs to watch Clippers game and it was like breaking news. They announced that he had died. And I remember I ran down to the lobby to tell my mom and she was with the track owner and everything. They didn't even know. I broke the news to the whole bar. Holy fuck.

And it was, it was just a crazy, like super somber, uh, experience. That's insane. That is, yeah. And, and that, how old were you? Uh, 15, 16, 15, yeah. They let you drive the pace car. Yeah. It was a Punnick Aztec.

And they, that didn't deter you at all from wanting to be a race car driver. Uh, I mean, obviously, you know, there, there's, there's danger in, in, in racing. That, I think that specific incident changed the racing world in a huge way to be a lot safer. Right. They implemented the Hans device then, um, after that. And like, you know, obviously, you know, in the 60s, 70s, 80s, like people died, you knew that two or three guys were not going to make it through the season.

Right. You know what I mean? It's, it's definitely become a lot safer. Granted, you're doing something dangerous. My thing is, you know, an air condition can fall out of a, you know, a window and crush me to today. That's my biggest fear. Well, it really is.

You really don't know, you know, I, I know when I'm in the race car, I'm trying to go as fast as possible and I'm not saying that you feel invincible. You know something can happen, but you can't think about that. If you're thinking about that or if there's fear in you, then you're, don't be a race car driver. Right. You're not going to, you're not going to be fast. Yeah, that's that like watching, uh, F one, like the drivers survive when they're talking

about having to be on the edge and always be like pushing to that limit of your, you're basically almost crashing at all times. At all times. And if you, if any, there's anything in you that's like, ah, I don't want to get to that lit. You just got passed. Yeah. You're, you're done.

That's when you retire. Do you think, uh, people getting into F one right now, just from the Netflix, like we're very casual fans. Um, do you look down on it all? No, I think it's awesome. I mean, when I, because I was racing open little cars 15 years ago and it was being in the U S nobody really understood what it was that they're like, I would try to explain like, you know, Indy car formula one, they're like, is it NASCAR?

You know, people really knew that. So it's kind of cool that, you know, motorsports in general in the U S is growing. And I think, you know, more F one fans will bring more Indy car fans, which will bring more NASCAR, you know, because once you get into the sport of racing, once you get into kind of watching it, you understand it more and the, the, the stories and what drivers don't like each other. And that, that's kind of what becomes fun about it. You know what I mean?

I think that's what, what, you know, drivers survived. It's so great for formula one is it, it showed people the personalities and what goes on behind the scenes and, you know, and, and some of the drama. So when you watch on track, things that happen, it means more to you. Yeah. No, the fastest way to get fans is to show them rivalries and then also let them figure out what the goat debate is. Like who's the goat?

Yeah. So who's your goat of racing? Um, it could be any racing. I'm, I, I would say the, the best series of drivers in my opinion, and this might get me in trouble is Indy car. Okay. Because there's 24 guys, you know, who race every week and all 24 of them could win, you know, we're in formula one, like it really is contingent upon what car you're in.

Right. I mean, you're seeing that with Hamilton, like, you know, he's won so many races, but his car is not good and he's a eighth place guy. Right. You know what I mean? Right. It doesn't mean that he's not as good of a driver as he was. Just the equipment mattered that much more.

So I think, you know, to win in a series like Indy car where like literally everybody's the, a top driver and it really about your performance is, is tough. And who's the best of all time, Indy? I mean, Scott Dixie, he's what? Six time champion. There's so many good guys. I don't know. I don't know.

You know, I, I know. I'm an Andretti guy. Yeah. And Alan's a junior. Yeah. I, I raced with Alan's a junior in a, in a race and I out qualified him and that was the, the coolest thing in the world. You're the go.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm just saying. So what do we have to do to get you a NASCAR? How, how many steps to where are you from competing? I mean, I've been racing, like I said, I've been doing stuff to, to prepare because obviously racing NASCAR or racing stock cars, although it's racing and I've been a race car driver, it's like comparing Olympic diving and Olympic swimming, you know, they both involve a pool,

but they're very different, you know what I mean? Like the racing styles. So I've been doing a lot of oval races and soccer races just to kind of hone that craft. A lot of it has to do with sponsorship, obviously, you know what I mean? I, I've got to raise a lot of, it's, it costs a lot of money to go, to go racing. And, and so it's, that's kind of what we're looking for. And we'll see, see where. Billionaires out there.

Elon Musk is a listener of the show. So Elon, if you want to sponsor Frankie. A small, small drop in the middle there. You're finding your couch cushions. But, you know, I, I'm, as a race car driver, I know that there's things that I, I need to do for, for companies and for things. And I'm willing to do all those things. You know what I mean?

Like I want to, I want to be a race car driver. Like I said, I'm not doing it as a, as a fluke or so whatever I've got to do to get in the car and, and when race is up, I'm, I'm ready. That's awesome. All right. So I had one last question. It's a rowback question. Go to rowback.com.

Put in code take for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K.com. Q-Zips, hoodies, polos, everything rowback.com. All right. Last question. True or false, you want to work at Barstool. Or you did at one point want to work at Barstool. I, I, I would love to.

You hit up Dave. Didn't you? Is that how the story goes? We, I don't know how we got connected. But I, I, I DM'd him and I was like, dude, like let me work at Barstool. He's like, well, what would you do? And I was like, I don't know.

That's listen, drive the Barstool NASCAR obviously. There's a lot of people who've gotten jobs that way. Well, the fact that Dave asked you like, what would you do here? That shows like way more planning than most hires. He was actually screening you harder than he screens anyone else. That was very, very tough.

No, I just, I don't know. Like you guys seem like you have a lot of fun. And I don't know, I, I, I want to have fun. Yeah. I mean, you have a crazy like career history with everything you've tried, which probably just add Barstool to it. Hey, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm still down.

Get him on the team. All right. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, Frankie, this has been awesome. We appreciate it. Best of luck in the race. Thank you so much.

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Go to that account tab. Create your login and redeem code PMT. Get 20 bucks off your first purchase. Some terms apply. Okay. We're going to wrap up the show with our Mount Rushmore and the return of the man, Billy Football. Billy, it's great to have you back.

Clap it up for Billy. Welcome back, Billy. Time spent. Sussy, sussy spent. You served it all. How you feeling? Wait. Talking to Mike, Billy.

This is... Oh, here we go. It's great to be back. Thank you guys for having me back. I've spent my time reflecting and I'm very happy to be here. All right. Yeah. What did we learn over our summer vacation?

I learned a good amount off the top of my head, Premiere. I've been using a lot of Premiere. Okay. What is that? It's editing software for videos. Oh, hell yes. Yeah, so really got into that. And also, sort of, to put it...

This is going to be profound. No. I sort of learned that, like... Speak from the heart, Billy. Yeah. This is a trust trick. Yeah, we're okay. We're a family.

Believe it or not, we did miss you. Yeah. And a lot of people missed you. Not like every day, but we missed you at some points. There was definitely points. Like when Zach Wilson's mom started fucking a bunch of moms, I missed you. That's hearsay.

Okay. That's libel. I like that. It was libel written on the Instagram comment, and anyone who says it is then committing slander. I do have a question about that for you, though. Wait, wait, wait. He's got to say his profound thing.

Yeah, say your profound thing. It's hard to express into words, but probably just humility. And just sort of, you know, sometimes you get to headspaces that you can't really see what's right in front of you. Right. And you're not really aware of things because you're in the thick of it, and you can't see out of the woods from the trees.

And sort of got a different perspective. Sometimes you got to get out of the situation you're in to realize what that situation actually is, and that's sort of what happened. I like that. That's great. That was supposed to be the point of it. And I feel like if that's how you're feeling coming out of it,

then it's good for all of us. Yeah. Yeah. So in terms of the Zach Wilson thing, it was he fucked his mom's friend, right? It wasn't his friend's mom. Right. It was his, allegedly, his mom's friend.

Because that's it. I was thinking about that the other day. That would be a different story. Correct. You broke the code, as John Morant would say, if you fucked your friend's mom. Well, the thing that, the reason why I was never clarified is because it's a lie.

It was said by a scorned lover. It's a very cool lie. I wish people would lie about us like that all the time. Yeah. Just fucking milfs all the time. I mean, there was some serious breach of bro code. By who? By his former roommate and teammate

who he threw tons of touchdowns to. Some of the team's Zach. Yeah. And he's a commander now. The other guy, I don't even know his name. He's a nobody. That's Milne? Yeah.

The only reason that guy's on the commanders is because Zach Wilson, and then he just goes and bangs his ex-girlfriend. Yeah. And then they were getting so much flak for it that they just threw out that slander. Yeah. Homie hopper.

Exactly. So if it were true, what would be your take then? This is a hypothetical. I think that the last great quarterback the Jets have had, championship winning quarterback was Joe Namath. And if it were true, but I don't think it is, Zach is an outstanding man on and off the field, and he is going to leave the Jets to more success.

But if it were true, he's showing a little Joe Namath in him. Joe Namath definitely had that dog in him. And I think that's a Broadway Joe. Are we getting a Broadway Zach who's about to bring a championship to the Jets? I like that. The Book of Mormon. Yeah.

It's a long standing play. Exactly. OK, so what other story, any other takes that you missed, any stories that we talked about that you're like, oh man, I wish I was on the show right now? One thing I did realize over the break was, you know those, oh, first thing, Jack McLeos is pronounced Jack McLeos.

You found like a bunch of clips from like, you know, 1920. It was, it was, it was actually impressive. I think that those clips were the original way they pronounced his name. And just over time, it's been butchered and he just hasn't put had the effort to correct everybody. OK, so one problem though is you didn't, that wasn't, you didn't watch those clips as like a kid.

I may have. OK, that you were watching on mute. Yeah. Well, maybe like my grandparents said Nicklaus. Right. And that's how it's said. Got it. Did you listen to the podcast at all, Billy?

I get really bad FOMO. Oh, OK, that's fair. That's a totally fair answer. Like it was, yeah. Yeah, it was actually a little sad when we were going out to play mini golf and we were all driving out to Hamptons to stay the night and Billy had to take the cooler out of my, my car before we all hopped in the car.

And I like kind of caught eyes and it was, he was just like a sad puppy. But it was, you know, it was part of the suspension. I know. And I mean, I mean, I kept up with it. I like read through everything, kept the clips, but like having to listen that whole time. Yeah, it's too painful.

Too close to the heart. Because then I started talking, like trying to talk. And then I'm like in a car by myself. Oh, you tried to chime in. Yeah, yeah. That's what you should have done actually. You should have like done practice rounds. You should have recorded yourself.

Yeah, like just chiming in. You're like, oh, I want to set this here. Yeah, I mean, when you just talk to yourself alone in a car, you sort of, anyway. That's a fair answer. I actually think that's a totally fair answer to be like, I miss, you know, it is. It sucks to not be around here.

So now you're back. Yeah, but it was something that needed to happen. Needed to experience that. And it's good to be back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Welcome back. Okay, we're glad that you're back.

We still got some big things coming this summer. So it's going to be fun. And we missed you for Mount Rushmore season. So I think it's been a great Mount Rushmore season so far. Now we get the pairing of Jake and Billy, which is really what we wanted when we, when we came up with team Mount Rushmore. And so it's going to be Jake and Billy versus Hank and Liam,

versus me and PFT. And a perfect one to come back for, for you guys to be combined as a team. PFT came up with the idea, we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of ways to kick things up. So ways to kick things up Mount Rushmore. You guys should go first, because you guys, you know, you've been gone and you're back.

Why don't you select the entire order, Billy? Yeah. Tell us which order we're going to go in. So we have to go first. Yeah. Yeah. We'll go clockwise. Okay.

So yeah. Wait, counter. So that would be clockwise. Clockwise. So hubba second. Hubba catcom. Okay. By the way, just to specify,

is it ways to kick things up a notch? A notch. A notch. Yeah. I'm sorry. I kicked things up a notch. Okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Because kicking things up. Yeah. Is it different? Punching. Anyway. Yeah. Okay.

Or like, you know, paying, paying to your, you know, your capo. Exactly. Right. Right. Paying your weekly, weekly fee. The big. You could also say, turn things up a notch. Yeah.

That also works for this too. Yeah. Yeah. Kick things up a notch. Turn things up a notch. Okay. Here we go. 1-1, Billy and Jake, back together.

How did the process go from your perspective, Jake? Billy shot down most of my ideas, but I'm going to hold my ground this year and say, I'm picking one or two. Okay. Nice. Nice. So this one is actually Billy's idea. No, no, it was not my idea.

Jake came up with this. You can look at the text chat. This is great. It would be very. So why are you letting him pick 1-1? Well, he's going to pick, it's, this is his choice. Okay. 1-1.

But it's your return. But Jake just said that it was Billy's idea. Whose idea was it? Before I hear this idea, I'm not going to lie. I need to know whose idea it was. It was Jake's. Okay. It was Jake's.

Don't lie on the first day back. I'm not lying. It was Jake's idea. And then I gave him a suggestion to make it better. Okay. So you kicked things up a notch on his idea. Exactly. Oh, I like that.

I did. I did. It's an inception. Wow. Okay. All right. Shotgunning a beer. Okay.

All right. Good one. Good pick. Billy couldn't say that. What was your first, oh, because of the problems he's had. What was your, what was the, how, okay. All right. That's good pick.

Good pick. Good pick guys. So I was, I said having that one more course, having one more course. Got it. Shotgunning a beer is definitely a way to kick things up a notch. I like that pick.

All right. Hubba. Let's go with just levels. Levels. Good one. Good pick. Good pick. Playing levels, playing levels.

Yes. Yes. Okay. So we have two picks now. I think our one one is still on the board PFT. If you want to say it. Remember, it was a thing that your first one. My first one?

Yep. Ordering shots. Yep. Ordering shots. Because you could, you could be having cold ones at the table, but then one person's like, J-mo. Yeah. And then you know that it's on.

Yeah. And it's just like, okay, this is going to be a different type of night. Like when the first round of shots get, gets ordered, it's on. Yeah. And don't, there is, there is that one, there's a shots guy who can kind of overplay his hand. Yeah.

The guy who's just always like, let's do shots. Let's do shots. But that perfect. Yeah. Like you've maybe had like three or four beers and someone's like, let's do a round of tequila. Yeah. Boom.

It's going. So if, if the shot, your first shot of the night is like your fourth drink at that point, you know, you're not going home before too. Yeah. Yeah. The shot guy is either trying to do your first drink of the night is shots or you're all hammered and you're like

barely hanging on. He's like, let's do shots. I feel like the first, if you do shots, the first drink of the night, that's not really kicking it up a notch. No, it's your, you're starting at a high level. That's your baseline. Yeah. Yeah.

You could do shots if like, if you're late joining the party and you want to play catch up. Right. But that's still, you're not turning up a notch, but if you order those shots after you've started, consider the notch kicked up. Yes. Okay.

All right. Our second pick is going to be playing ACDC, any type of ACDC, any song that always kicks it up a notch. They're just rock so fucking hard. And I feel like everyone, like when you hear ACDC, back in black for those about to rock, oh, Hanks, give me the face. Hanks doing his face.

Hanks, what, what part of ACDC do you not think kicks it up a notch when they write a song? I think they have a couple songs. I couldn't, if you just put on any ACDC song, there's a lot of people be like, what the fuck is this? No, there's, listen. There's like three songs. No, you want me to name like six songs off the top of my

head that you would know. Okay. You shook me all night long. Okay. That's a notch. Yes. Back in black. That's a big notch.

Huge notch. Back in black. Huge notch. How'd you say? Thunderstruck. Yes. That's a great one. Huge notch.

Great one. Huge notch on that one. For those about to rock. For those about to rock. Huge notch. Hell's bells. Yes. Jesus.

Consider the notch elevated. Yes. You want me to keep going on? That's, that's five. Dirty deeds done dirt cheap. Yeah. Dirty deeds. Yeah.

Yeah. Different audiences. You're speaking to the olders. If I played ACDC right now, can we do it? Or is we get suspended on like YouTube and shit? Dude, the notch would go up. ACDC is on every pregame youth sports place. Yes.

Yes. All right. Great pick. That's a great pick. Money talks. Great song. Notch kicked up. Yes.

Who read who? Kicked up. It's a great pick. Highway to hell. You didn't even say hi. Oh my god. Highway to hell. Jesus.

See all their songs are about rocking. Hell. Women. Dude. If we're standing. Or rocking harder. Yo, we got to kick this up a notch. I want a beer right now.

Oh, and he goes. Hey, Satan. Oh, TNT. TNT. All right. It's like your old catalog is turning up a notch. I was wrong. Hand up.

If I threw you a beer right now. You would chug it. I wouldn't. Asking nothing. Let me be. I might just listen to ACDC already. I did everything for us guys. I think they're the number one.

Turn it up a notch band. Like they are the number one. If you play ACDC, you just immediately are like, let's fucking go. I want to hit someone. I want to drink. I want to fucking douche. I want to order shots after hearing that.

Yeah. Good picks. Those are good picks. It's a notch accelerator is what it is. If you do any of these other activities while listening to ACDC, the notch gets higher. Yeah. I appreciate you being sour plus Hank,

because you just made us prove our point. I wasn't being sour plus Hank at all. That catalog that we just rattled off is insane. I forgot about how many good songs I had. And as a man of honor and integrity, I'm admitting that. OK. Shout out to me.

Shout out Hank. Our second pick, maybe you're at the casino. You're gambling. You've been there for a while. Maybe things aren't going super good. Or maybe you're just kind of like, you know, middle of the pack, not having the best night, not having the worst night.

You want to kick it up a notch. Just put it all in black or red. Yup. That's good. That's a good one. Instant energy. Instant energy boost. It gets the juices flowing.

It gets everyone excited. If you win, then you're going to have a great night. And let's just leave it at that. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good one. That actually gave me a good idea for another one. Yeah, me too.

You're welcome. OK. No, it was a great pick. It was a great pick. I should get your pick off of my pick. OK. All right. Jake and Billy, back to you.

Two picks in a row. Letting the bodies hit the floor. OK. OK. I mean, this song has been ingrained in our culture for, I think there's just one NFL hits highlights on YouTube that had this song connected to it. And I think it was the most viewed.

And I think every single male in America has watched it. Yeah. Close to. And then if you put that song on, it's just, it's electric. Yeah. The bodies are hanging the floor. Yep. Yep.

And it's just not even just the song, just letting the bodies hit the floor. You can also do, you can put a bad highlight reel to let the bodies hit the floor and it becomes great. Exactly. I think I did that with Will Compton's playoff. Like his highlight reel from two years ago, when he was going down like as a gunner on kick return.

Yeah. And he like made a couple of tackles on it, but it was like largely a special teams reel. Yeah. But you add let the bodies hit the floor to it and it's like, oh, fuck, this guy has played off Willie. He's about to fuck some shit up. If you put that on, I don't think anyone really

actually plays it out loud. Like in a weight room, it plays because it gets you hyped. But if you play that just in a bar or something, I don't think anyone's getting out of there. Yeah. Yeah. Good one. Good pick.

All right. Your third pick, I just want to listen to ACDC right now. Yeah. Just kicking off. When this happens in a football game, everything changes. A surprise onside kick. Oh, great pick. That's a great pick.

Thank you. Shit. It's just whether it helps you or hurts you, you can always go back to that surprise onside kick. And that changed everything. Yeah. That does kick it up a notch for sure. Great pick.

Thanks. We do this all the time here. Sunday nights, we need to kick it up a notch before football. Smelling salts. Yeah. Smelling salts kicks it up a notch for sure. It does. OK.

I missed the salts. Yeah. Yeah. Good pick. I got a bunch on Amazon Prime Day. Oh, nice. For the season. Thank you.

All right. Big cat. For our next one, I think I'm going to go with number four on my list. Yep. Yep. OK. Yep. Adding cheese to it.

Putting cheese on an order. Anything. Anything. Just like, yeah, let's throw some cheese on that. Yep. Yeah, I'll take cheese with that. Yeah. Absolutely.

Yeah. Yeah. You know what? Toss some cheese on that. Maybe some pepper jack. Might be cheese. Pepper jack really kicks it up a notch. Melt some cheese on it.

Yes. Yes. Adding cheese. Billy took exception to that. I mean, if you eat something cheese, you go to sleep right after. Great point, Billy. That's like a great point, Billy. That's like a nice ender.

Now, happy Billy's back. It kicks you a lot. You guys shamed me for any disagreement. It's like, I thought the Mount Rushmore was embracing debate. No, it is. No, it is. I get scared to. I get scared to.

I don't shame you for disagreements. I shame you for going like this. I shame you for having a bad opinion about something. You voice your disagreement. People can't see your sour puss face. You need to voice your disagreement. If you eat a chicken parm, you will fall asleep. Not necessarily.

Yeah, but that might be more the bread and the breaded chicken, isn't it? I know, but the cheese puts you down. But adding cheese to any dish kicks it up. I don't know. I'm not talking about cereal. Wait, wait, wait. Billy is conflating the kicking it up a notch with like wanting to stay up till 4 a.m. drinking beers.

That's not necessarily the case. So in this case, you're kicking the entire meal up a notch by adding queso to it. The meal is what gets elevated. OK, OK. OK, so our last pick. I'm a PFT. I like what you just texted me.

I'm going to tweak it just a little. It's going to be putting a monster bet on like a prime time or big game when you're like, all right, Sunday Night Football, let's go fucking all in here. Monday Night Football or like there's a huge basketball game. Whenever you do that, it kicks it up a notch, kicks the whole day up a notch, the whole life up a notch. Your game of the year just feels different.

Game of the year is like. I'm like scared to say one word. Dude, I get excited. Just sometimes I'll just daydream about like, oh, I'm going to do a game of the year. Just that feeling that rush you have where you're like, this is going to be awesome. We're going to watch this game.

And we got we got we got like a real confident pick in this game. If you're feeling like half in, half out, like non plus about a prime time game, boom, just put a monster bet on it. Yeah, guess what? Yeah, now it's the most important game of all time. The boys are over. Let's all group group bet together on a big fucking side.

Boom, kicking it up a notch. All right, your last pick, Hank. Our last pick. It's a group team team effort. Good reminder. Thank you. Our last pick is going to be committing a crime. That's good.

That's good. That does kick it up a notch. It kicks it up a notch. It could be something minor. You know, even just like, you know, a light goes yellow then red, but you're like, fuck it. I'm just going to speed right through anyway.

It could be like, you know, maybe the bartender's not giving you any looks. You reach over the bar or something, anything, anything or it could be high level, like robbing a bank, robbing a gas station, whatever it may be. Yeah. Committing a crime kicks it up a notch 10 out of 10 times.

My theory about bank robbers is I think, I think you get away with robbing banks way more than we're told. Yeah. Because nobody would rob a bank. We only hear on the news about a bank robber getting caught. You never hear about the guys that rob banks that don't get caught.

Because they don't want to be embarrassed. Yeah. I'm pretty sure like, was it 60%? I think, I think we might have looked it up a while ago. I think like 60% of bank robberies go unsolved. Yeah. So that's kid. It's a great business model.

Yeah. Okay. Good one. Thank you. Oh, that was our honorable mention. We have some good honorable mentions. Go ahead. This one's deep in the bag.

But in historically, when you really wanted to kick it up a notch and you had a bunch of dudes and you really wanted to motivate them and get them going, you burned the boats. Burning the boats. Burning the boats. Yeah. Burning the boats.

Many times in history, guys were like, oh, we want to go home. We want to not keep it going. And one dude was just like, we're burning the fucking boats. Like cash in the ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. Cash in the ceiling. Cash in the ceiling.

We're coming back. Yeah. Yeah, burning the boats is good. When I was in Nashville a couple of weeks ago, that was like our motto for the trip. We just kept saying, burn the boats. Like, it didn't matter what we were doing. Yeah.

It's just, if you say burn the boats, it gets the boys pumped up. Yes. Yes. Okay. All right. Honorable mention. That was a good Mount Rushmore.

Honorable mentions. We did have on our list that missed the cut for us is just putting all the windows down or they're taking off the sunroof. That always kicks it up a notch when you're driving on the highway. I was going to steal a game of the years from you, but I didn't.

So shout out to me. Wow. Really? Yeah. Doubling down in general. Just when you double down on anything. Yeah. You know what I think?

Yeah. That was, I had one similar, but I, it. Well, when you do one, you're supposed to. That doesn't feel like you're. No, it does. No, it doesn't feel as risky. Even when you do it, you're still kicking up that. You're 11 against the six.

So doubling down either in the course of a hand of Blackjack, that's kind of kicking it up a notch. But if you just decide to double your bet. Yeah. Or yeah, you win a bet and then you just double it. Yeah. You let it ride. I thought you were talking about 11 versus 6.

Yeah. Yeah. Letting it ride. Letting it ride. Yeah. Letting it ride. Doubling 12. Yep.

Yep. Doubling on 12. Cocaine, do it responsibly. What else? Had another football one. Turning on Sandstorm. Yep. Yeah.

I had a. Sandstorm's great one. Going for two in the first quarter. Yeah. Yeah. Like Steelers, eight nothing. I like that. Yeah.

Flea flickers. Just in general, kicking up a notch. Yeah. Feels like it does. A gadget play in general. Yeah. A gadget play, kicks it up a notch. Just kind of fucks the whole flow up.

Dessert. Dessert. I had that on my list, but I had. Like sometimes you're like, I'm not going to get dessert. But when you're having a dessert night, I mean, you probably have dessert nights all the time. But like, sometimes it's like, yeah, that was on call four. But like some people it's like there's.

You literally were in my house and I gave you ice cream. It was. You said, do we have ice cream? And I was like, actually, yeah, we do because we always do. Yeah. That was a rhetorical question. And then you just did that. Yeah.

Oh, but yeah. Like sometimes you go to dinner, if it's like a weeknight, you're like, yeah, I'm good with dessert. But if it's a dessert night, it's like you're kicking it up a notch. I think lighting a dessert on fire is cool, too. Yeah. Lighting anything on fire. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Good point. Yeah. Lighting anything on fire. Starting a fire. Shooting into the air. Yep.

That kicks it up a notch. Beer before noon just kicks it up a notch. Because the notch is so low that just one beer before noon is like, Billy, don't get ideas. That's like, you know, you kick it up a notch when you're the first guy, if you're on a trip or something and you just crack that first beer. Being the first person to crack the beer on a guy's trip,

that always kicks it up a notch. The rest of the day is going to be effortless at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Smooth sailing. Yeah. I had a Steve Adasio video. Yeah.

Yeah. Steve Adasio. Or I think Billy would agree, Waka is like a walker. Yeah, Walker Flocker. Yep. It's very good height. Turning on Gremlin mode. Yeah.

What else? You guys probably don't know that song yet. It's kind of underground. Hot sauce. Hot sauce in general. Yeah. I also, this one, you guys can tell me if this one's way off, but I think just throwing a ball around

turns it, kicks it up a notch. When you're like maybe sitting around and you get a ball and then it just like a ball enters a room. Because you know, you can't like, you can't just not throw a ball around if you have a ball. And then slowly like becomes like a game. And then you're tossing it and chucking it. I think that always kicks it up a notch.

Yeah. I was going to like, guess the blood flowing. Yeah. Like if you're all just sitting around and you're like, let's go outside. Yeah. Like if I had a tennis ball right now, I was just checking it out.

You guys would, all of you in this room would be like, yo, pass that to me. And then it becomes like a thing. Big booty mix 13. Any big booty mix. That's for the younger crowd. Yep. That's a good one.

Yeah. Shout out to the friends. Yep. When you were younger, a belly flop or a cannon ball. Oh, yeah. At the pool party. Yeah. Pushing someone in the pool always kicks it up a notch.

Yeah. You can't do that anywhere with phones. I know. You can't really prank somebody who's fully clothed. But that does kick it up a notch because everyone's like, oh, who's going to get pushed in next. Yeah. Panting someone.

Oh, great one. Tearing their pockets off the back of their jeans. Yes. Farting in public. Okay. Explain that one. Yeah. Go on.

I don't know. Just like, yeah, I guess maybe it doesn't kick it up a notch. Is that a rush? You get a rush from that? Yeah. Back force. All right. I take that back.

Oh, no. Something honorable to mention. Yeah. Pulling into a McDonald's randomly on a road trip. Kicking it up a notch? Yeah. But is it random on a road trip? Everyone's like, oh.

That's like expected. No, but it's like you usually want to get like a. Pulling into a strip club on a road trip. Oh, that's good. Mm-hmm. Going to a strip club definitely kicks it up a notch. I feel like if you're going on a road trip, then it's expected that you're going to pull into a McDonald's

at some point. Yeah. A surprise strip club visit. Yeah. Yeah. Also, it's a surprise road trip kicks it up a notch. Like let's just fucking go here. Going driver off the deck.

Kicks it up a notch. Driver on part three. Kicks it up a notch. Dry scooping pre-workout. Kicks it up a notch. Sniffing pre-workout. Sniffing glue. Responsibly.

Yeah. What else? What else? Eating a cheese steak before a podcast. I think that turns it down. Right? Because you have to. Yeah.

Yeah. Because of the cheese. The cheese? The cheese on it turns it down. Adding guac to a burrito. Kicks it up a notch. Even though it's extra. Speeding.

Yep. I guess that would be under your crimes. But yeah. Running from the police. Yeah. Yeah, we're helping Hank here. He's just happy. I mean, that was a good pick.

The crime's one of us. Yeah, crime's a great pick. It was a fucking great pick. Memes. Headbutting stuff. Okay. Okay. Yeah.

Getting in a fight kicks it up a notch. Always. Okay. Anything else? I think that's good. That was a good Mount Rushmore. Kicking up a notch. That's all.

I just want to listen to ACDC though. Yeah. Kicking up a fucking notch. Just fucking get crazy with it. All right. That is our show. Should we do it? Dragula.

Dragula. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, we're putting on dragula. That's a huge, huge miss. Morbin. Morbin. Yep.

It's Morbin time. If you get up and you're like, I'm going to Morbin today. I'm always Morbin. As I'm always kicking it up a notch. Morbin feels, always feels. Oh. Morbin Freeman.

Ordering pancakes for a table does kick it up a notch. It does. Because it does just like, hey, we're all, we're going it. That could be just, if you just are like, let's get every appetizer, that kicks it up a notch. Yeah. Yeah.

Doing an apps dinner. Yeah. Being like, I got this. And then getting like eight appetizers, that kicks it up a notch. The pancakes move. I don't know if it's kicking up a notch, but it makes everybody else at the table

a little bit more calm because everyone was thinking, oh, I might get the pancakes. But then when somebody orders it for the table, then you're like, okay, I don't have to worry about ordering the pancakes anymore. Yes. Yes. Okay.

Let's do numbers. Great to have you back, Billy. You're back in the fold. You're back. I'm going to take 69. Have you guys, has it? 96. 69's hit four times.

I think it was three. Oh yeah, you're right. It was three times. The fourth was on the computer, so it didn't count. 26. 69. 27. Hank.

96. Okay. My real pick is 21. You turn it on, Billy. I think it's unplugged on your end. There we go. No. It's light.

It's lit up. Hank, have you ever? No. You've never gotten this, right? 88. The pool. A little. Patrick Cain's going to get traded.

Otters or Necrophiliacs. Love you guys. That's true. They fucked dead otters? Yeah, they're fucked up. Otters are like serial killers. Whoa. Don't they hold hands, though?

No, they're not cool at all. Look at that. I guess that would be like the normal side of this. How do they, how do they hear? Investigate otters. Do they have sea lion ears? Yeah, they're external. That's what we got to call anyone who has external ears.

Those are sea lion ears. Ryan Whitney is half sea lion. Sea lions have internal ears. No, no, wrong. Wrong. Wrong, Billy. You don't listen. Seals have internal ears.

Sea lions have external ears. Wow. Don't you feel foolish? So when you said that you read all the stuff that we put out. That's also not true. That's not true. We got caught in a lie. First day back.

Yeah, look it up. Look it up. You were wrong. Yeah, dam is right. Yeah, have some of that. Sea lions also try to attack people, much more than people think. Yeah, but they have external ears.

That's the main point. I just checked it out. They're also very cute. Love you guys. Dangerous. Talking away while I'm at work. I'm to say I'll say it anyway. Today is another day to find you.

Shying away while I'm coming for your love, okay. Shying away while I'm coming for your love, okay. Let's say I'm about to set it from east to a little way. Learning how to make life as I can. Say after me. It's no better to say to something. Say after me. It's no better to be safe than sorry.

All the things that you say, yeah, is it a lot more? Just to play my worries away. You're all the things I've got to remember. You're shying away while I'll be coming for you anyway. You're shying away while I'll be coming for you anyway. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone.

In a day. Take on me. Take me on. I'll be gone. In a day. I'll be gone. In a day.