Pardon My Take - Game 3 W/ Kirk Goldsberry, Danny Woodhead, And Hank Parties With Guy Fieri

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

We start with Hank’s night on the Wood for Game 3 of the NBA Finals. Sitting on Paul Pierce’s phone, and partying with Guy Fieri. (00:02:48-00:25:40) We talk LIV Golf and the Rams never stop spending. (00:25:46-00:32:52) Kirk Goldsberry joined us immediately after Game 3 to break it down and talk adjustments for Game 4. (00:34:05-01:11:18) Our good friend Danny Woodhead joins to talk about being 36 holes away from the US Open and his crazy golf career the last couple of years. (01:12:58-01:41:16) We finish with Fyre Fest of the week. (01:43:08-02:01:22)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's part of my take, we've got a two-fer for the people. We have our good friend Kirk Goldsbury, instant reaction right after game three of the NBA Finals. So you get the freshest, hottest takes. We recorded it on Wednesday night, and then we have our good friend Danny Woodhead, fresh

off of his attempt to make the U.S. open. He fell a little short, but it was great to catch up with him. And we have the biggest celebrity in the entire world on this show, Henry Lockwood, which we'll get to as well. We're going to talk game three. We have those two interviews. We have Firefest of the Week, great show, sending you off into the weekend, and we were brought to you, as always, by our friends at Visible, our presenting sponsor.

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Go to Visible.com slash pod. Get unlimited line wireless for as low as $25 a month. Today is Friday, June 10th. I don't really know how to start it other than saying Hank, um, congratulations. Yeah. Well, no more. Actually the question is Hank, how many people do you think want your life? I don't know.

I mean, it was a, it was a great night. Probably a lot. Yeah. So, uh, to recap the Celtics win game three convincingly, it was actually a very, very fun game to watch because you had, uh, the Warriors almost, you know, come back the seven point possession, all these things happen in the Celtics who were the better team win the game. Hank is sitting on the wood.

He gets the ball, pump fakes a shot. He does his fist pumps where he actually is, is now done a very good job of keeping his right hand cocked and loaded, but not releasing it. He had, he had one towards the end after the block where he, he let him both, it was kind of, yeah, he was holding one and then it was kind of moving a little bit. Um, he was sitting with Guy Fieri. He went to the club with Guy Fieri. Uh, he also sat on Paul Pierce's 75th or some top 75, uh, basketball coat that he, every

top 75 player got a special, uh, jacket. He sat on it. Then when Paul Pierce was like, Hey, you're sitting on my jacket. He got up and he moved and he sat on Paul Pierce's phone. He had an all time night. So I, you just go like this is, we'll pepper in questions, but it is the Henry Lockwood show to start this one. Yeah.

I mean, I tried to write down some notes to just like, to things to go over cause there was, so Dana Barrows random, but Celtic legend was wearing a Dana Barrows jersey during like pre-game warm-ups and it was standing like two feet in front of me. Like he was literally like boxing me and I was just like stuck behind him. Like that was unreal Celtic legend. Bill Walton, recurring guest. He was there like a row behind us. Did you talk to him?

Did you remind him of, uh, of the time we interviewed him in Vegas? We didn't, we didn't really get to talk to him. We were just kind of like, we're, we're a little, a little far away from each other. But when the T-shirt, they came out with all of the T-shirt girls and like throwing T-shirts, he was just standing there and just asking for T-shirts and grabbing them. Like, but like put it, grab one, like put it down and like put his hand back up and just grab one, put it down. Uh, I believe it was his wife had like a sick Celtics Garcia, like Jerry Garcia, Jersey.

Uh, the Paul Piercing, I mean, I, that, that needs to get cleared up a little bit though. Okay, please. He, first of all, he was, he was a little, uh, he was a little tipsy. Like he was, he was. I don't like where this is going, Hank. It sounds like he was blaming Paul for you, for you almost stealing his stuff. No. And big hat, big hat knows this where Dave will like basically just for the sake of the

story, make things up to make it seem like. I don't think so. More ridiculous. I didn't sit on the jacket. I, I his, he put his jacket like on my seat and I went to sit in different places. I can't sit in the jacket. He's like, no, you definitely can't sit in the jacket. And he had just thrown his phone like on the bench.

So when I sat down, he's like, that's my fucking phone. But he was like, he was like fucking around and then Dave started laughing. And then he started like, obviously like realized Dave was laughing and like, fuck with me. And then he just like kept going. So it was like funny, but like, I didn't sit on his jacket. I definitely. You sound like you defiled his jacket. It sounds like you tried to steal his phone.

Yeah. And his jacket. No, it was great. Okay. So, um, I don't even know where to go. You had such a crazy night. Well, let's talk, let's talk about the, let's talk about Hezzi Hank. Yeah.

We'll get to the game. We'll get to the game. We also have breakdown with Kirk Goldberg. We'll get to the game. But let's, let's yeah. So the ball gets deflected to Hezzi Hank and Hank, I was honestly impressed. I was very impressed with the fact that you caught it. It almost, it almost seemed like you were just ready to shoot.

Like you didn't hesitate at all. You were just like, I, this is what I have to do right now. What went through your head in the moments after you caught the deflection until you did the pump fake? If you look, you can kind of see in real time, like I looked at the ref and, and, uh, pool and they weren't looking at me. Like I had the ball and I was kind of ready. Like instantly probably just throw it back, but I realized that they weren't focused on

me in that moment or whatever. So I had like a quick second where I was like, all right. And then I just like, it was very natural. So quick. And then I didn't know, like afterwards I was asking Davey, like, do you think that was on TV? I was like, I fucking hope so. Like that was hilarious.

And then obviously like he texted me, but it was just, I don't even know. Like it just all happened very quickly. I jumped out of my couch cause I was like, I, it's, I was thinking about it this morning. It's so funny because we're blessed with having dream jobs and we get to talk to athletes and we get to be at all these events, but just a simple fact of our boy, Hank being on TV and like I was just like, anytime the action was down on his end, I was just staring at that left corner of my television being like, that's him. I know him.

I fucking know him. He just got the ball. I was just super impressed that you had the presence of mind. Like most people, they, they catch a ball in the stands and they like start laughing and they smile and they look around. They're like, Oh, I can't believe this happened. They toss the ball back. It was like instantaneous for you.

You were, you were like, you had a plan almost. That's what it looked like. Now, my question to you is, do you think that if you had shot it, would you have made it? I don't know. I was kind of behind the backboard, but I, I mean, I had a clean look. I, I said, so we, when we, we had Kirk on last night, it was coming up. I said 0% chance, 0% chance. I was like it, that the art, we were behind the backboard.

So like realistically, but like if I was a little, a couple of feet to the right, I also got him with the pump fake. Yeah. You did. You could see his head like go for it. Yeah. I just said, I, the way I describe it is, you, I've played basketball with you many times and you're not, you're, you're, you're a guy who needs to warm up.

That's what I said. You need, you need to warm up. Like your first few shots missed the rim and then you could hit like eight or nine in a row. So that one would have missed everything. I think, I think low key Hank would have made it high key. He would have hidden innocent bystander underneath the basket. Well, yeah.

We also were like, we didn't know if we were going to get kicked out in a while. That's what we were trying to decide after. Yeah. I think you would have. That's, I didn't say that in the beginning, but Guy Fieri, like being with him in the beginning, cause him and Dave are close and we didn't know, like we went to meet up with him at his restaurant beforehand and we just like hung out with him and his sons. And then we didn't know when we got to the garden there, like, oh, you're sitting next

to guy. It was like, oh, this is hilarious. But yeah. And then the Celtics just class organization, like class all around. It was just very like, they obviously, it's like a great, it's, it's just a surreal experience. Like obviously from the butter knife days, then all of a sudden we're like in the, in the legends club, like all these people sitting courtside, like it's just very, it's, it's very surreal from the pit to the palace.

Yeah. Yeah. So you went to, you went out to the club with Guy the next, that night, right? Like right after, and how was that? It was great. I mean, he's got, he's got like his own line of tequila. So he was like giving us tequila before he gave us like three bottles of tequila. I didn't, I didn't take any cause we ended up at the club, but he had, he had, he had

that, you know, it was just everyone, like he gets, when we were courtside, we were leaving like walking on off the court and like everyone, every single person, like Kenny Smith, Neil Long, like every celebrity that's there, like C's guy and it's like, Oh my God, guy, like guy, guy, guy, like obviously being with Dave, it's kind of like that. Like there's that to an extent and like you guys know how it is, but Guy Fieri, it's just like on another level. Like every single person, like I was, he was right behind me and Kenny Smith was walking up to me.

Like he knew it was like, Hey, and I was like, I like for a second was like, what? And then I turned around. I was like, Oh, he's, he's going for guy. You're like, man, this heater is incredible. Kenny Smith. No, I was just like, yeah, but it was so, he was so like, he was so like, you're my best friend. And then I was like, this isn't for me.

I was like, but I turned around and it was just like, Oh, it's for guy. Okay. So, so a segway to talking about the game is one last question about this night. Do you think one, will there be a game six and two, do you think you'd get the answer to the invite? I do think there will be a game six, unfortunately, very scared about game four. And I do think I would get the invite. Wow.

So you could be in there for potential clenching game if the Celtics win one of the next two. That would be correct. I'm not, I mean, I guess, I don't know. I don't want to, I don't want to knock on wood, but okay. So let's talk about the game. I mean, we, I think PFT and I are kind of in the same boat where it's like, I think the cells are just better. I, you know, at this point, the Warriors, I don't know what they can do other than like,

everyone's got to make their shots because the Celtics, they just, the Celtics just tried so much harder. And it might not be like, that's not saying they're not talented because they obviously are, but they went for every 50, 50 ball, they out rebounded. They were like flying around, cutting harder, everything. Like it just, it felt like the Celtics were like, we have to win this game and the Warriors didn't have that same sense of urgency. Yeah.

The Celtics, like what they have, you know, gotten better at over the season, but that happened a lot in the beginning of the season. They still do it to an extent. It happened in the third quarter is they just, we'll just let down and all of a sudden have terrible runs like that. That seven, that seven point possession when you got the end one on the three and the flagrant, like that's the only thing, but they obviously came back in the fourth quarter, kind of like game one where they just came out in the fourth quarter and just asserted dominance.

They didn't the first quarter too, but they just let that third quarter when they let them down. Like it was, it just gets so scary all over again when they all of a sudden are up 15 and then down too. Yeah. I do feel like the Warriors, like yes, they obviously have to make their shots if they want to win, but the Warriors are a team that can beat a team that's like, you know, better all around than them and they can beat them easily too.

As long as you just have, you know, Steph, Clay, if those two guys make all their shots, if they get to a night where they're both on, then they're pretty much impossible to beat. It doesn't matter how good the Celtics can play, but they sneaky were though, but, but they were, yeah, when Steph, when Steph's not playing, when Steph's not in the court, it's like Barry, you can tell like their offense just doesn't like have any rhythm. I don't think that Clay was like on, on though last night. Oh, he was on.

He was pretty close. He was on. Because remember he didn't score in the first court. I don't think he scored in the first quarter or the fourth quarter, so he had 25 points in two quarters. Right. That's what I'm saying. Like they, they didn't have a combination game.

Yeah. Of them, of them both being just good from start to finish. And when they do, I don't think that you can beat them, but they're not going to be able to do that. Like that's not, it's impossible for them to sustain that type of basketball. So I also think we talked about with Kirk later, but I think Celtics and six Hank, do you have, do you have anybody that you'd like to apologize? Any children that might have been at the game that you dropped bombs in front of?

Because Hank real classy, real classy last night. Clay Thompson reported, and this is egregious if true, that there were fans that were dropping F bombs at the game. Is that true? I hope not. That is very true. Multiple times throughout the game. I was definitely participating.

He. What? Observation from the wood. He just does. He from start to finish does not stop talking, talking to the rest like talking shit. The entire game. Wait. Clay Thompson.

No. Dramon. Dramon. Yeah. I'm the only one that called you out on it though. Did you say anything? Yeah. I mean that.

No, I didn't say anything to clay. It's crazy. It's so soft. It is. So soft. It's. So. And obviously the series could still, I'm, I'm convinced now the cells are just the

better team. The only, the only team that can beat the Celtics is the Celtics. Like they have to beat themselves. And it's kind of sad watching the Warriors go out a little bit like this where they're complaining there and there's been complaining on the Celtic side too. So it's not like, you know, but, but the way, the fact they're complaining about the F word is insane. Like being like real classy.

That you immediately lose the argument when you say stay classy. And then, and all he does is talk like it's not like it's just coming out of nowhere. It's like much different when it's like he's actively talking shit and so Celtics fans are talking shit back. Yeah. And now Dramon didn't complain that way. His wife did. Clay did.

Dramon, I don't think said like, Hey, this was bad. Cause I think Dramon genuinely, genuinely like, It's kind of cool. Yeah. He loves the attention. He loves being a heel. He just sucks. He sucked a basketball in game three.

But what I was saying is like, it's, it's weird watching the Warriors there. They are the embodiment of like an at a great athlete that can still do the same things, but not in the exactly the same way where it's like they have those runs where they'll cut it to four or cut it to five. And then they couldn't get over the hump. They like couldn't, the Celtics had an answer for them where old school Warriors, they would have those runs and then the game would be over. They'd be like, Oh, here's, here's a 15-0 run in like two minutes.

Nothing you can do about it. Game over. They have those little spurts where you're like, that's the Warriors. And then they're human again. So it's kind of weird watching them. Yeah. They need their role players if they're going to win games. They don't have any.

Yeah. Like Steph, I mean, cause Steph and Clay are the only ones that can score. But if they just deal them up, like it's, I, I think they should win. It might be Celtics on five, but who knows, we just need Scott Foster every game. Whoa. So Scott Foster is actually not undefeated when he refs for the Celtics. We get into this with Kirk. Yeah.

A little bit later. We got got by a fake stat. Yeah. For real? Yeah. So we, we all now have, I feel like I've seen that, I've seen that trickulating for weeks because one person makes it up and then like finding actual stat, I don't know, but finding out the actual referee record against certain teams is like pretty tough to do.

You have to really dig it in the numbers. So people see that and then everyone just runs with it. Memes said four and three is the real stat. So now we got to get into the fake ref stat game. Which is so funny. Four and three. That's, you guys talk about 12 and 0, right? Yeah.

12 and 0. Yeah. No, I brought it up with Kirk and he's like, you got got. And I was like, fuck, I, there's Scott Foster just in that level where it's like you can just anything you say about him. You're like, yup, that makes sense. But yeah, you need Scott Foster. All right.

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So Hank, you're being weirdly, are you, are you nervous? I can't get the vibe of like, are you nervous of a jinx because I have now like game three showed me that the best, the best version of the Celtics, the Warriors cannot beat. I'm being honest. That's just my honest take on it. And that's what's scary, I guess. Like saying that you might not have your best in like you, you, you might beat yourself. Yes.

Okay. I could see that. I mean, they have born before Lee off a loss or sorry, off a win. So yeah, I could see that happening on Friday. It's been, it's been the, it was like this in Milwaukee series, like this in Miami series. Like they, they had, it was all three series was the same thing where it's like they looked like the better team. They kind of had control and then they just get like, they have, they just throw up stinkers

I think the only thing you have to be worried about at this point, when you say it's scary, do you mean like it's all lining up too perfectly? Like this can't be real. How good we're playing and how, how much clearer it is that, that we're the better team in the series that like everything to you is just like perfect. It's going swimmingly. And you're just worried that this is all like being set up to get crashed down. Yeah.

Pretty much. I mean, during one, by the way, also just like is, he's terrible. Yeah. No, he's not good. He like can't play offensive basketball. No. And he's just dirty. Yes.

He broke the code last night. Yes. He did. What on the Tatum? I mean, that wasn't. Well, no, he went after Tatum's injured shoulder. Yeah. See, like I honestly unbiased, unbiased me, like the paint Pritchard thing I didn't think

was that crazy. I didn't think that was that crazy either. Like I don't think he was, I don't know if you, if you have cameras on it like that, you could probably do that for a million plays. Are you friends with Paul Pierce now? Yeah, absolutely. We're boys. So when's he coming on the show?

Yeah. He knew. Could you get us? I actually think we could probably, yeah. I mean, I can, I can, I can try and make that happen now that we're BFF's, but he, he came up to Dave. I mean, honestly, this is funny. Dave will probably say it.

So I, there was like, it's like the legends club where you can like hang out before the game. We got brought in there and you need to get a wristband, but we got brought in by someone. So I didn't get a wristband and I left to go to the bathroom and I come back. And the usher was like, Oh, you need a wristband? There was people like right behind the gate that were like, Oh, no, he's fine. He's, he's with us. He's like, no, you need a wristband.

Like you're not coming in. And so I texted Dave and some kid comes up to me and he's like, Dave's talking to Paul right now. Like, I don't know if he's going to come out and I didn't know what that meant. And then he came and got me and then like we walked back in and it was him and Pierce. And I guess Pierce, he was like, Pierce came up to Dave and was like, Oh, what's up, Dave? Like, well, Marshall, blah, blah, blah, like Dave was not expecting that. So I think, I think we can get him on.

Yeah. Okay. So you were done. When you, when you sat his phone, when you like stole his phone from him, but I also missed that initial number into there. Yeah. Like I went to the bathroom and got stuck outside and I missed like the initial like, you know, embrace with Paul too.

Yeah. Combo. How was, um, how was the party? I was rattled after the phone thing. I'm not going to lie. Like, I was definitely, you smushed his phone. I sat on his phone and I was, he was like, that's my phone. I was like, no fucking way, like underneath my ass crack.

Oh my God. Did you get, did you go out and like actually party last night? With Guy Fieri? Yeah. We were at the club till, till the close when then we're at a casino and play some black Jack. Hell yeah. Awesome.

Yeah. Guy Fieri, is he as cool as I hope he is? Dude, he was like the most downed earth, downed earth guy in the world. You're living the dream. He's, I mean, it was like, it's, it's crazy to say that's where it's like so funny, like the pictures and stuff. It's like, he's, he's just the, the chillest, like chillest guy, funny dude. And then it's like, it's Guy Fieri.

You just see the way people react to him and it's like people just love him. Yeah. Like it's absolutely insane. Everyone. That's what, and that's what I'm saying. It's like you, in being in Boston, there's obviously a lot of fans. People see Dave and they, they react a certain way. They're like, oh, what's up, Dave?

But like people see Guy and they're just like, oh my God, like, and it's like everyone. I love, I love it too because there's, it's a great testament that the internet is not real life. Cause I know there was a moment where like people tried to ironically like shit on Guy Fieri and then you go out and public with him and you're like, he's just the most beloved guy ever. That gives me hope for the world. I think what happened was the New York Times wrote that review of this American kitchen.

And everybody read it and was like, this is just really mean. Right. To a guy who doesn't do anything. Who's actually like a very positive person. And so it was, it was kind of cool to see everybody be like, yeah, you know what, fuck that guy. We're Guy Fieri fans. Yeah.

He's just a good guy that makes people happy. Yeah. Everyone loves him out in the wild. That's exactly what I would expect out of Guy Fieri. Um, okay. So, uh, game four Friday night, I don't, I guess I could see the Santa Fino tequila. Now it's just there. It was great.

I guess I could see the Warriors winning. I just don't, I think, I think that they're going to lose. And then I think they're going to win game five. Game five. Yeah. And then Hank will be on the wood for on the wood. I want, I want confetti, Hank. Wow.

I don't know. What a moment that would be. I, again, I don't want to get ahead of myself. I'm very appreciative. If I never went to another game, like I'd be, I'd be fine with it, but if you're in Dave's shoe was, and you don't invite me like then you're, then you're a jinx. He can be jinx. True.

True. How does it feel to be, to be the most important part of this podcast, just like the most famous person by far? Easy. I mean, hey, we've all had our championship runs. You had the caps. Big head at the Cubs. Like it's just, it's just what happens sometimes when you get, when you, when you go on these

runs and you're in the, you know, center stage. Yeah. Except like for you, you've had it. How many times? How many times? Yeah. How many championships have you seen in your day? Have you counted?

I think it's 17 or 18 since this podcast. No, since you can remember being alive. The Patriots have won twice. The Red Sox won. The Bruins went to game seven. I've had four. No. Six championship runs, I think.

Since this podcast started. It's insane. What about, what about in your lifetime? Do you know how many championships? I believe it's 17. Fuck you. I think Jake could probably fact check that. Fuck you, Hank.

All right. Well, what else we got? We got the live tour has often running. Hank, you're a fan of it, which you just popped on before we started. You're like, I think I'm into it. That's a choice. Yeah. And you've made it.

I mean, if a fan, like I'm watching it. Yeah. That's entertaining. It's like they have like random college kids mixed in. It's kind of hilarious. Yeah. Like the coverage is just like it'll go from Dustin Johnson to like a kid that looks like he's 16.

I kind of like one thing I've realized, I'm saying like it's, it's entertaining. I can't. I'm not going to sit here and say it's not like the kingdom of Saudi Arabia has enough money where they could literally just pay every celebrity enough money to just go live in Saudi Arabia. Yeah. That's how fucking rich they are. Yeah.

And it happens sometimes. And so the PGA tour came out today and they said, we're suspending everybody that's playing on the live tour. Phil Mickelson went out today and man, he looks, he, you want to talk about a guy that looks rough. Well, the leather coat was so great because he really, I mean, everyone was clowning on him, but he really is like the, the divorcee dad going to the midlife crisis, being like, I'm just going to take this Saudi money real quick.

And he's, yeah, he, he does look rough. He looks like he hasn't slept. There also was a nice grouping of PGA players who did the, I'm not fired. I quit. Yeah. That's smart revoked their own card. I don't know. It was weird that they, they, they waited till the live tour started to make that announcement

make the announcement right before it. I think it's just basically a case of procrastination where you don't want to deliver bad news to somebody. And so you wait until like the night before and you hit up your boss and you're like, not going to make it in. MBS just gave me $400 million. So I'm going to jump over to London real quick and play in this tournament. I feel like they just, they just delayed the inevitable until the very last minute.

It had big, like asking your wife for a divorce after she had already moved out energy where it's like, it's already been over. And you're like, Hey, I think we should get a divorce or like, I have a new boyfriend. Yeah. Or like, you know that you're about to get caught doing something bad. So then you ask for the divorce right there. Yeah. So, so Phil actually put a put a vest on before he teed off today.

That's the Augusta national golf course vest. Oh, wow. So he's like begging. He's like, please, please continue to let me play in the masters if I really want to. That's what's going to get interesting is if these guys aren't allowed to play in majors, then they're going to be like, Oh, shit, what have I done? That's the only thing that they really care about is golfers to begin with. It's like the money and then also how many majors.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And we had, we had a moment where we thought our guy Brooks, he did the eyeballs emojis. It actually was a good test run for us, just in case any of our friends do join the live tour, because the part of my take group chat, Brooks was fucking with everyone. He's not joining the live tour. He now currently did the eyes emoji.

And then like three hours later, it was like, whoops, forgot the link. And it was like, say, Juan Barclays looking great in in OTAs. But it was it was a genius move for the PIP bonus stuff. Yeah. Because he's probably like, honest, I don't know, is he doing. He's he had like hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of replies and obviously a lot of retweets and likes and favorites on it. And he was just trolling everybody.

But that's good because he's going to make money off. And he also so I. So how it went was he did the eyeballs emoji on the part of my take group text. You've never seen a group of people be like, well, like money's money. Like he should go live his happy life. Like we were so quick to be like, we still love him. Like, you know, it's not a big deal. So then I texted him and he said that if he wins the PIP, then he'll throw us a party.

Oh, there it is. Nice. So yeah. So we'll just have to start interacting. Well, now we have to just essentially become like a giant commercial for Brooks Kepke all the time. Correct. We should retweet every tweet that he has. Yep.

Yep. And then if you're an award-winning listener, it's your duty now to interact with that tweet. Yeah. Respond to every tweet. Respond to every tweet. And we'll throw apart. We'll invite some AWLs. Yes.

Well, yeah. Does he know that? No. OK. Yeah. But we'll invite some. We could be two. We'll invite some AWLs to the party.

And I want Luda there. Yes. I want my Luda. My Luda that I didn't get at the wedding. But yeah, Brooks. Listen, I'm not going to judge if Brooks ends up going. But I hope that he doesn't. Yeah.

But if he does, that's fine. Yeah, it's fine. Whatever makes him happy. Right. I just want Brooks to be happy. Correct. Exactly. I don't want Brooks to be happy.

I might not agree with his lifestyle, but I want him to be happy. And if he loves playing on the live tour, then love is love. And he should be allowed to do that. Correct. Exactly. And then the last thing I had was the Rams are just, I mean, there's never been a team that's just better at doing future Rams problems. They signed Cooper Cup to a big deal after signing Aaron Donald to a big deal.

I mean, what can you say other than like, I respect this at this point? Like there, McVeigh is probably just has it circled like 2025 call the executives at ESPN, Fox and CBS. I mean, do we know that the salary cap is even a real thing? No, it's not. In terms of being enforced. Because my theory is that the NFL just said, okay, we're going to make a salary cap. Every team has to be underneath it.

And then they just send like a series of threatening letters to teams that are not in compliance with the salary cap, but they don't actually have a guy that's tracking it and enforcing actual penalties against it. Right. Right. It's just like, you better watch out, because if you go into next year, you're going to be in cap hell. And then they send a strongly worded letter saying, you are currently $2 million over the

salary cap for the league year. And then they just never follow up on that. It's crazy. And they hope nobody calls them out on the bullshit, but smart teams like the Rams and Saints, they're just like, okay, we see through this game. Yeah. We're just going to keep, keep worrying about it later. Keep hoping the cap goes up.

Keep hoping nothing happens and it's working. Yeah. Yeah. It's smart. I just, I'm at the point now where I respect it as someone who loves to do similar things where it's like, oh, I'll do that. Yeah. In the future.

Oh, I'll do that in three months. Oh, I'll, you know, yeah, sign me up for that stupid bets. Like that's, it's a great way to live. I honestly look at the teams that have the most salary cap available and they're always the worst teams. Yeah. It's like you, you suck. Yeah.

You need to fill this room up. Go spend your money. Yeah. Live today like there's no tomorrow. They're just, they're basically the Rams have like a target wooden board above all their doors. Live, laugh, love. Yeah. That should really be the live tours.

Like if they, if they co-opted that, it'd be great. All right. What if it was. Live, laugh, love, unless it's same sex. Yeah. Or live, live like you were dying. Yeah. Cause you might.

Cause you might if you piss us off. Yes, exactly. All right. Let's, let's get to our interviews. We've got Kirk Goldsbury in some reaction from Wednesday night. It's going to be great. We're talking, we're breaking down the game. And then we have our good friend, Danny Woodhead, and we will do firefests on the other side.

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Get a hundred dollar Skrill bonus if you're one of the first 20 customers to do it. And now, here's Kirk Goldsbury. Okay, we are welcoming on our very good friend. It is right after the game, so it's a time capsule. We're going to run this on Friday show, but it's a time capsule. We're getting instant reaction from one of the smartest basketball minds in the world. It is our good friend, Kirk Goldsbury. I don't know where we want to start, Kirk.

I actually, well, I actually know exactly where we want to start because I know you have higher understanding of the game. You have numbers that you can give us, but I have a question just from the jump. Is it fair to say, throw out like the shop making and, you know, the fact that Celtics are probably more talented, the Celtics just straight up out hustled the Warriors tonight. And like rebounding to me, the Celtics are bigger, but still rebounding is a lot of hustle. And it was like right from the jump. They basically were like, no, we're just going to get every 50-50 ball.

Yeah, it's fair to say they trucked them, man. That's the word that I kept thinking. And they are a bigger team. They are a stronger team. And for the first time in this series, I think they really asserted that big cat. When they won in game one, it was like crazy three point shooting. They looked like a lost team in game two. And then in game three, they looked like the best team in the NBA in large part

because everybody in the rotation played hard, played smart. And like you've said, the rebounding numbers were good. And the points in the paint numbers were good. I think Boston only had 24 points in the paint game, too. They more than doubled that tonight, which isn't just a stat. It's proof that Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown were playing aggressive, asserting their physical advantages and making plays in the teeth of the Warriors defense. So for me, yeah, it's fair to say they outmuscled them.

The word I kept thinking, they trucked those dudes. They were bigger, stronger, better. I like that. Would you say, like, are the Celtics, are they intimidating? Are the Warriors a little bit intimidated? When they play like that, PFT, they are. They look like the biggest, baddest group of dudes in the league. But what's weird about the series in game two, they didn't look like that at all.

Looked like Draymond could get in their heads. Looks like they couldn't dribble down the core without dribbling off their foot. And they were afraid to make plays or couldn't get plays made in the paint. And so when they play like they did in that raucous arena with guys like Hank, three drinks in, four drinks in, Guy Fieri sitting there. It's intimidating, man. It's intimidating. Where a team like the Golden State Warriors to go in there and play against a team like that.

Yeah, this is a big dump for everybody that said like five years ago that the Golden State Warriors were soft, that they were a soft team. And now if you wait long enough on a take and they run into a team that'll truck you like the Celtics, you could eventually be proven right. Also, if Draymond Green just ends up falling off completely. Is it fair to say from a basketball nerd standpoint, does Draymond suck now? Does Draymond suck now? I'm not ready to go there, but Draymond has not been good enough PFT.

And I think he's the key to the series if the Warriors want to win it. I think Draymond would own up to not being good tonight. I mean, he fouled out and that might have been the difference. The Splash Brothers were actually pretty good, right? They made a lot of threes and the Warriors defense let them down tonight PFT. After holding Boston to 88 points in game two and looking like themselves, they gave up 116 tonight. We're slow on rotations.

They got toasted on the boards like Big Cat said and simply put, they got beat up. And one of the things I like about Draymond guys is that he'll own the Dean. He says, Steph runs the offense, I run the defense. Well, if that's true, this one's on you and your leadership to get back into the series because Draymond, you weren't good enough. You fouled out your shooting numbers have been miserable, but we expect you to be better on defense. Yeah, he shouldn't shoot threes like ever.

Like the game was great. Like it was even though it ends up being a 16 point game, it felt like a great game because the Celtics jumped all over him. The third quarter Warriors showed up. We got to see a seven point possession, which I don't think we've ever seen before, which was crazy. Now I tweeted at you Kirk. Did you have some flashbacks knowing that the Warriors then benefited from a landing space call?

I think that is Zaza taking out Kawhi when they were down like 20 in that in that playoff game and you were sitting there. Did you were you were you in there? You were obviously in the arena when Kawhi went out. Yes, I was working for the San Antonio Spurs in the front office during that awful game. We were up, I think, 26 big cat. And then the Zaza play happened and Kawhi was already limping around a little bit. Some people think that Zaza targeted his ankle.

Some people don't. Regardless, Kawhi was out. Changed the sport forever because now we have these. Then you're right, Al Horford, who I don't think is a dirty player, you know, was contesting the greatest shooter in the world. And he came down trying like heck to contest that shot and Stefan landed on his foot and was scary because Stefan has those ankle problems himself. And man, those are dangerous plays.

I did have flashbacks. In fact, my wife texted me. She was like, did you hear the announcers? I still matter. She's still more mad about it than I am. But it's it's a it's a dirty, it's a dirty, dirty situation. I don't want that gave me flashbacks. Short answer. Yes.

Hell, yeah, we in fairness, talking about Draymond, he also broke the code. I don't know if you saw he tried to tug on Jason Tatum's arm. After a free throw, he also kind of fell on Jalen Brown. It's like he's he's right on that edge where he's constantly like, you know, like the I feel like NBA fans 50 and up are like, man, this is good, just hard basketball. And then everyone's like, dude, are you just intentionally trying to rip his shoulder out of his sock? It's like, what the fuck?

Yeah, he's he he messes with that rod in the line. Like if you're rooting for him, like if you're a Bulls fan in the 90s against Carl Malone, oh my god, this guy is incredible. What a ferocious defensive presence he is. And then if you're rooting for the Jazz, like this guy's a maniacal jerk, you know, I hate this guy. And that's Draymond. And that's what he brings to this Warriors team without him.

Big cat to PFT's earlier point, without him, their defense isn't going to be good enough to beat this Celtics team. I have one sort of dumb guy stat that I'll throw out to you that the Celtics are now 11 and 0 when they score 108 points in these playoffs and they're 3 and 7 when they don't. So if you're Draymond Green and this defense, you need to you need to hold the Celtics below that magic number because the Celtics defense doesn't take a night off, you know. Yeah. And and on top of that, it's the turnover stat that everyone's seen at this point where the

Celtics with 16 or more turnovers are basically I think they're 0 and 5 or something like that or maybe 1 and 5 in the playoffs. And then 15 or less turnovers, they're essentially unbeatable. I think like 13 and 2 or something. So yeah, I mean, the defense, it seems like that's like you need to make the Celtics make mistakes and you need to hold them to let, you know, obviously it's a dumb guy stat under. You want them to score less, but you're right. Like Draymond, he is the he's the X factor on that part and he totally failed tonight.

It seems like the series is pretty consistent when Golden State has the ball. They're going to end up with 105, 110 points. But yeah, we're seeing a lot of variance when the Celtics have the basketball because of those turnovers and because of Golden State's ability to be more physical or keep up with the physicality of the Celtics on that. So yeah, keep your eyes when the Celtics have the ball or their shots going in. Jason Tatum has had a couple of bad nights shooting the ball. He was great tonight.

But his passing, their ability to get into the paint in game three was the big difference. So if that's a trend going forward, the Warriors are troubled. Draymond can now flip the switch and be like, channel that crazy Draymond energy like he did in game two and hold that Celtics defense down. We're going to have a long seven game series. I still think that's where this is going. But game four is going to be huge. If Draymond and that defense can hold the Celtics down to 108 or less, they have a good chance.

Right. So you mentioned Tatum's off night when they had the loss. What you do in an off night doesn't matter if you lose according to the people that vote on the MVP award for the finals. And this is something that we're tracking here very closely. A part of my take because Billy has to go vegan for an entire month, including the 4th of July, which is like his, that's Billy time. And we need to, we need to get an update on who in your estimation is tracking to be the MVP of this series.

Is it going to be Tatum or is it going to be Brown? Let me give you the stats too. Real quick, Kirk. So Jail around 68 points, 22 rebounds, 13 assists. Jason Tatum, 66 points, 17 rebounds, 25 assists. So pretty like statistically, they're pretty much the same right now. Yeah. I think it's time to fire up the impossible burgers because I'm going Jason Tatum folks. And I think Billy's, I would recommend the impossible burgers.

They're better than you think they are. They're not bad. They're not bad. I don't think he'll enjoy them quite as much as an all beef patty, but I think Jason Tatum is going to win the MVP because the Celtics are only going to win a series of Jason Tatum has a few more good games. And his passing in particular guys has been great. In that game one, he had a terrible night shooting,

but his passes created 35 points for the Celtics. He can score it, pass it, rebound it, steal it. He's just slightly more complete and slightly more important to the Celtic success in my opinion. So I think he's a safer bet. Now I'm not going to be shocked PFT if Jalen Brown wins the MVP of the Celtics win the series, but my money and my impossible burgers would be on Jason Tatum at this point. It does feel like to make the Jalen Brown argument, it feels like he gets them going a lot faster. Like he tonight, I think game one was similar.

Mark Jackson astutely said Jalen Brown was the best player in the first quarter after he dropped 17, five and three. And he does though, like it feels like he gets them in a spot where then Jason Tatum can take over later on in the game, which I guess, I mean, winning time is probably going to win the MVP, but it like that, that first quarter when the Celtics jumped on him and had that energy, that was a lot because of Jalen Brown and him driving and hitting open shots. Yeah, he scored 17. He assisted on seven more in that first quarter, I think.

So that's 24 by my count and the dubs only had 22 points. So Jalen, you're exactly right. He's been that, I think twice by my count in these first three games. But yeah, he has been the spark. He has been the leader right when the game starts setting the tone. So like I said, if Jalen Brown wins the finals MVP, good for Jalen Brown. There's definitely a pathway where he deserves it. And he was great in game three, especially at the beginning when the Celtics sort of

needed that big start at home and he gave it to them in a way that Jason did. But Jason caught up by the end of the game, had a great game. And if Tatum has these moments like he's had in the last couple of games where at the very start of the game, he like grabs his shoulder and winces in pain and acts like he needs to get it amputated. That whole thing, if he keeps doing that and the stats are even, I feel like that's tilting it a little bit towards Jason Tatum because he's a warrior. Well, remember when Paul Pierce won the finals MVP?

You know, he's been known to go out in a wheelchair and come back in. So, you know, Jason's just carrying on a proud Celtics tradition. Tatum needs to shit his pants as well. It is, it is very Rothless Burger-esque that Jason Tatum like it's, I don't think he's, I think he's obviously got an injury. I'm not saying he doesn't have an injury, but he does do a good job to PFT's point of reminding everyone about his injury very early on where you're like, there's been multiple times this playoffs where I'm like,

Oh, is Jason Tatum really hurt? And it's like, no, then he dropped 27. Wait, does this, does this, does this medical tape on his shoulder? PFT have an accent talk like the walking boot does for big dentists? It's French. Yes, I don't know, I don't know what it is with my shoulder. That's exactly right. We just burned a new walking boot.

All right. So wait, Kirk, you just said this game, this series is going seven. So if that were to be the case, I would assume the Warriors would, it would be very hard for them to obviously come back from a 3-1 lead. We've seen it happen. Has it ever happened? Have we ever seen? Yeah.

But if the Warriors are going to win, you know, like to make this a long series, I think they probably have to win Friday night. So what are the adjustments? Like what are, what do they have to change to, to win this game? And it might even just be the Celtics have been so Jekyll and Hyde all playoffs, just let the Celtics implode because it does feel like they have a game like this. And then they play a bad game and then they play a great game. And then they just hope that they end up winning in game seven,

which they've done twice so far. Yeah. I think you're right. But again, it does seem like they're great after a loss. There's now seven and no on these playoffs after a loss to Boston Celtics are, which is the longest such streak in playoff history. So to get to that, you have to lose a bunch of games. Right.

And you can't lose a couple in a row, obviously. So it does seem like the Celtics are due for a loss. Now that's again, dumb guy reasoning. It's all about the defense. Dremond, Kevon Looney, the bigs have to do a better job on the glass. They have to out sort of match their own size. They have to over index on the boards and rim protection in a way they did not do in game three, but in a way they did do in game two.

They have to be physical without fouling out. Now, Dremond has fouled out twice in the series. His physicality has to be perfectly calibrated in game four to get those stops without going over the top. We've seen him teetering on the edge. We've seen him cost this Golden State team a finals before by getting kicked out of a game or suspended for a game with his kick into LeBron's area of sensitivity there. So I think it comes down to Dremond Green.

PFT asked me earlier, is Dremond just bad now? I don't think he's bad, but he needs to be better if he isn't, the series isn't going to go to seven. So I think they need to win that defensive battle in game four. I can't believe we've gone this long without asking you about the basket before the game. So before the game started, the basket was identified as being potentially a couple inches too tall by a member of the Warriors staff. They went out, they measured it.

I never even knew that that tool existed, which is just like a rod that you hang from the rim to measure 10 feet. So is that something you've ever even heard of in your days? Like would pop have some guy walk out onto the court and measure the basket before every game? Yeah, there's a legendary shooting coach at this first name, Chip England, who is one of the most brilliant shooting coaches and player development coaches in NBA history, but he's also very, very observant about the inflation of the basketball, the springing-ness of the rim, whether the rim is crooked, whether it's too high or too low.

So yes, this is something that the good teams and all teams really have, but we're seeing it be too high or too low. Sometimes you see that crooked, the crooked thing. I think it would be fun if the Celtics actually had a smaller rim or like a carny rim, like a, you know, it's 18 inches wide, but if they had like a 16-inch rim, that would be, they have an explosion as you get with a 16-inch rim. Yeah. You know what I mean?

It's also funny because everyone obviously made Bill Belichick jokes after it, but it's like, know your history. Like this is a red R-back book. Like, yeah, it's like, it's almost, you can almost tip your hat and be like, it's probably the ghost of red R-back being like, yeah, you, you, you don't get to go to Boston in the playoffs and not have to deal with at least something weird. Something we remember the court had the dead spots and only the Celtics knew where the ball would sort of bounce abnormally and the other team wouldn't.

That caused a bunch of turnover. So it's, yeah, it's a gamesmanship, but yeah, it was, it was an interesting moment. As was when your colleague Hank almost shot a corner three from the left three, there he should have let that go guys. Come on. He's got to let that go. He's a genius actually, because if you, if you miss, then that's falling around forever.

Like forever. Do you think we're going to ever let that go? That's going to be like Hank's calling card for the rest of his life. Now, if he makes it, I don't, I actually don't think that he would get kicked out. No, I don't. He wouldn't, he, because he's with Dave and like those seats, I think they're, you know, I mean, they're on the, they're literally on the Celtics Instagram right now, being like big, big names, big games.

And it's Dave, Hank and Guy Fieri. So Bill Walton. Yeah. And I don't think, I don't think he'd get kicked out. And if he made that, He made, he's a legend at Boston. He's a legend at Boston. What's, what does he shoot from the left corner, big cat?

Does he shoot 30% from the left corner? What do we say? So I want to be, I love Hank. I love him to death. I've played basketball with Hank many times. He would have missed that shot without a doubt, because he's not a bad shooter, but he is one of those shooters that has to find his rhythm. He would have airballed it.

I think he would actually agree with me because he's like one of those guys, he'll show up to the gym, first three shots, won't even hit rim, and then it'll hit like eight or nine in a row. But the first shot, no chance. Like it's hard to hit the first shot if you haven't been shooting for anyone. Then he absolutely made the right call. Not shooting that ball. If he, if he needed to warm up and he's going to airball that, that's a bad look.

Right? If he shoots an airball, it gets kicked. Yeah. The counterpoint would be though, he looked like he caught that in rhythm. He had like Clay Thompson, like quick release on that. Yeah, he was already in his pocket. And he, uh, he actually, he had a better night from three than Draymond did. Can you make a, uh, one of your heat maps for Hank? Like his O for O from that corner? Yeah. He guys made the same, made three,

same numbers made threes as Draymond in this series. Yeah. I don't, he should, Draymond should stop shooting threes. I know he like has to every now and then to try to keep people honest, but it's like, it actually does the opposite. It's like everyone just is reminded that he cannot shoot threes. Well, real talk, when they have Looney and Draymond out there, it's like they're playing three on five on offense. And if Looney's not getting easy looks at the rim, and, and that's bad.

And that's one thing to watch. Like Stefan and Clay, uh, Wiggins pool to some extent are carrying this offense. They need somebody else, um, Looney or Draymond to have something to give on offense. Cause yeah, it seems like it's three on five when they have their two big lineup out there. And that's not going to get it done against the Celtics team that has a much sort of more robust, um, group of scorers in the game at almost all times. Yeah. They, I, I like Kavan Looney just because he sets awesome screens. And I, I noticed that like he, he put some meat on it.

I actually have a nerdy basketball question for you because it's obviously very funny whenever you just like are, you know, scrolling through Twitter and, and it seems like everyone sitting on their couch has an answer to, uh, like how to play defense in an NBA finals game, but it's obviously been discussed. Like the, the Warriors are running less of their motion, you know, everyone running around in more pick and roll with stuff up top. And there was a few times where Al Horford got caught, especially the seven point possession where he's doing drop coverage. I, everyone's like, you can't do drop coverage. You can't do this.

Like I just feel like sometimes stuff is so good. I know you have to be up on them and you can't give them even a second, but it's also one of those easy Twitter answers that everyone has when they're like coaching. And it's like, I, it has to be more difficult than that. Like what's the solution for the Celtics? Because it does seem to happen a lot where they run a pick and roll and stuff gets that little glimmer and he hits the shot. Yeah. He's been awesome. And they're following the numbers, big cat. There's pick and roll efficiencies. This series have been great for Stefan and, and they are, you're exactly right. Getting away from the motion. So I think it starts with Marcus

or whoever is at the point of attack, trying to get over the screen, not necessarily relying on the drop coverage or the switch with somebody like Al Horford or Robert Williams to defend that quick, dancy ball handling that Stefan likes to do. So can they get the ball out of Stefan's hands by blitzing him? Can, can, can Marcus Smart do a better job of fighting over these screens? They need to find a better way to stop them. Stefan did what he needed to do offensively tonight. Again, I keep hitting this point. Stefan is not the problem. He is beating the Celtics in the exact same way. This might be his best final performance we've seen. Yeah. And his team isn't there. This isn't a deep enough team. The problem isn't there.

It's on the other guys and on the defense event tonight again. So Stefan is, is carrying it. Clay was even great in game three. It was nice to see that, but I think it just speaks that there's no Sean Livingston here. Andragedal is not what he used to be. Dreymond isn't doing much. Jordan Poole hasn't really flexed aside from that crazy late, late game and the shots of game two when the game was kind of walked up. But yeah, they need more on offense aside from Stefan. You're going to get us, you're going to get us roasted online because of what you just said. You just, you forgot. I mean, Kevin Durant would be nice to have right now too. Yes. I think Kevin Durant would be nice to have right now. And you know what?

I'll leave that to Stephen A and some of my colleagues at ESPN. I'm sure they'll hit this one up for me. But you know, this is a team that did one without Kevin and then obviously won two with Kevin, but Kevin won those finals MVP's for good reason when they play a great defense. But you know who shut down Kevin in these playoffs? This Celtics defense. And Stefan, you know, if you want to get into the talking games, Stefan is doing better against this exact same defense than Kevin did in the first round. So I think that's interesting. But yeah, obviously, if the Warriors had both of those dudes, this would be a different vibe in the series. Okay. So it just occurred to me what is probably going to happen, what I hope happens now, especially for the talking

head situation. I'm hoping that we get a Celtics series win and Steph Curry gets his first finals MVP out of that. That would be, that would be the ultimate. That was so great. Threading the take needle. That's what we need to happen. Nick Wright wouldn't know what to say. It would be, that would be incredible. Incredible. That would be the perfect ending. It would be the probably the perfect ending in this series. I don't know what the talking heads would make of that, guys. I think that, I think that like first take would just implode on itself. I don't know if like the power of Skip's own brain would probably give him a stroke. And he probably wouldn't make it. Isn't that a lot of red meat though, PFT? Like that's a lot

of red meat. You can't give the finals MVP to a losing player. Isn't that what you do? Is that the take? Well, I think that I think the conversation has become so much bigger than just that. It's now a reflection on Steph's entire legacy that the only finals MVP he got was when they lost. Then you can go, it's one of those things that will become a Rorschach test where you can take that little nugget right there and stretch it to back up whatever argument you had previously made. It's going to be amazing. That's now what we have to root for. And by the way, I still do, I love that you call him Stephan. Yeah, it's the best. There's a level of comfort with him. Like, you know the guy. I've been slandering his name by calling him Steph

this whole time. Yeah. Yeah. I go by, I call him Stephan. I think that's old fashioned. I think that's what we were calling him at Davidson. I don't know why everybody chose Steph. I feel like that's a little personal. I'm not there with him yet, but maybe a couple more hangs, a couple more golf games and I can get there with him. I don't know. By the way, there's two other players I wanted to talk about real quick. Marcus Smart played great. And then he had like a very impactful game, you know, scored a lot of points. And then Andrew Wiggins, because you're talking about like they need someone else. I just looked up, I looked it up. Andrew Wiggins had 18 tonight. He's got like the quietest 18

in the world. I think it's maybe just the fact that like he hasn't been able to hit those big threes when he's open, but it feels like they're going to need like 30 from him one night to steal one of these games. Yeah, I agree with that. You know, he's great in transition. He gives them dunks. He has the potential to tear the internet down with a dunk that could help the momentum. They're finding him open for three. He's got to make those. But you're right. Like he is one of the two guys, the other one being Jordan Poole that could sneak in a 28 point game here and really lift this offense over the hump. Marcus Smart was awesome tonight. It feels like he's finally getting back from his injury. You know, and the one of the cool stats that came out of

this tonight was that Jalen Brown, Jason Tatum, Marcus Smart are the first trio to have 20 points, five rebounds and five assists in the finals game since Kareem Magic and Michael Cooper did it in 1984. Again, super weird esoteric ESPN stat. I love those, but it just proves that this is a deep team. And these three guys were all contributing tonight in Boston in a big game and all played very, very well in a way that the Warriors don't have that kind of depth. That's a stat that we need to hear somebody like Wiggins or Poole get numbers that they haven't been getting so they can match a stat like that. I don't think that's going to happen. That is a very cool stat. Can you explain to us maybe if you have another like dumb or a smart way, or I guess a dumb way to say something

smart? The fourth quarter starts and the Celtics respond to the third quarter Warriors onslaught because you don't see many teams bounce back from taking that beating from the Warriors in the third quarter. It can demoralize you. But the Celtics, like I would just be like they're a tough team is what I would say. But from like a basketball perspective, is there any way that you can quantify what the Celtics were able to do or what they changed, what they did differently from what most teams do after they received that beat down from the third quarter Warriors? Yeah, I had that in my nose, PFT. So yeah, they take the haymaker in game one, they respond with an awesome game, a fourth quarter, three-point shooting clinic. What was interesting in game one

was that Steph and Curry took his normal rest at the beginning of the fourth quarter and sat the first six minutes. And that's when the game flipped. Tonight, Steve Kerr actually rested Steph and Curry at the end of the third. Now you have me in my head about what am I calling the steal? No, it's good. I don't mean to do that. I like it when you do it. But yeah, so Steph came out and played the first part of the fourth quarter and it still didn't really affect it. So I think they're trying to tweak their rotations because the Warriors are a much better team statistically when Steph and Curry is on the court shocker, I know. But in game one, they tried to sort of, they exploited no Steph in the court at the

beginning of that fourth. Tonight, he was out there and they still did it. I think it's just, you know, the gold state Warriors deserve a lot of credit for having this third quarter magic haymaker that they can throw. They threw it again tonight. But yeah, I think it is a real sign of the toughness of this team, especially on offense, that they can come back out and throw their own haymaker in the fourth. It's one both game one and game three, four. Yeah. So we start talking more about like the fourth quarter Celtics. Is that a thing? Yeah. I think we should make that a series. That's the other thing. Let's do a thing with key to game four. It does. And Steph did have foul trouble, which I, everyone was expecting a Scott Foster game. Everyone expecting the refs

to control this game. I don't think that that happened. Like, I was behind Scott Foster in the metal detector line on the way to the arena. Yeah. I had to talk to him for a second. It was very exciting. What do you say? How many cell phones did you have? Did he whisper in your ear like, Hey, take the Celtics tonight? Take the under. Take the under. Yeah. The over hit. No, he's, I think he's, I think he's 12 and 0 in Celtics games. I saw the stat. I'm going to pull it up, but yeah, he probably whispered to you. So he's 12 and 0 in Celtics games this year. Wasn't that, I don't mean to be this guy. Wasn't that, wasn't that fake? It was fake. Okay. Then maybe it was fake. Yeah. I guess Scott Foster's reach a level where any stat I'll be like, Oh,

yeah, that makes sense. Well, also 29 and one in Boston. He basically, he gave Chris Paul COVID for game seven series. That's right. He's out there. Yeah. He injected him with COVID. We need to start making up like ref stats because they're so hard to track. Like nobody knows how to find that, that data. So memes, that would, that's what we need to do before the next game. Just find out who one of the reps is and just make something like completely out of thin air up. Yeah, I definitely got to do that. Yeah. I got to do because Scott Foster, like you could tell me anything about Scott Foster, right? Any which way. And I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. It's like a Chuck Norris bit at this point with that guy. You could make up anything. It sounds true. Everybody hates and

they use like the ref that every team in the league thinks hates them, which is impossible, but yeah, here he is in game three. And I don't think the officiating really had an effect on this game at all. But yeah, it was, it was interesting for me to be behind him in the metal detector line going into the arena and being like, Oh gosh, you know, I hope one of us gets out of here alive tonight. Go ahead and do that. Yeah. I actually thought like there was obviously, there were some like significant fouls, Steph Curry getting foul trouble, but I thought it was a pretty physical game and they let them play for the most part. I mean, there were some, you know, there's a decent amount of foul shots, but like there was some physical, physical play happening, which I love to

see. Yeah. Guys were fighting in the screens, colliding with screeners. Dre mom was playing super physical. In fact, got disqualified for it. And then Stefan had a couple of dumb reach in fouls. His fourth foul, I remember when he was behind Marcus smart in the third quarter, just yanking at the, at the play, which it's just, just a bad foul for, you know, if you're trying to be finals MVP, you can't be in foul trouble. But to Steve Curry's credit, he didn't quote unquote foul out his own players. He let them play through the foul trouble and ended up being okay. But yeah, I think that's something to watch too, especially with Dre mod has been disqualified in two of these three games because of those fouls. And he can't be doing that if they weren't one game four.

Big cat, do you have a rowback question? Cause I've got one here from, from Bubba. I don't know. Do you know Bubba? Have you met Bubba? New Orleans? Was he, was he in New Orleans? He was. Yeah. Yeah. He was by memory. So yeah, it's the rowback question promo code take. I think it at the point. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So wait, wait, wait, wait, Bubba, we got to set this up. This is the rowback question promo code take 20% off. We'll send you some Kirk. We've got some right here. Here's a polo for you. You love rowback. You're always so generous with that. Yeah. 20% off. He's promo code take. All right. With a rowback question, here's Bubba. Okay. Is there, I want you to look at the stats for

when they change to that court side angle, when you're watching the broadcast, I feel like shots never go in. Never. Bad angle, shrinkle. Yes, true. I don't, I don't know. Yeah. If, if somebody has run stats on that, I think, like I, I don't know. I think there's some juju about it that it might get in the players heads. Yeah. Yeah. They, they, they, they, they, they the magnets and the rims that we know are in there. Yeah. It's like there's some sort of magnetic field when they change the camera, the magnets in the rims are activated in those shots never go in. Yeah. It could be. It could be. You can get bad angles. It happens in football when they go to the sky cam. There's only been one good play ever. There was a quarrel batter. Yeah.

A kick return. Besides that happens. Bad angles have killed many thirst traps on Instagram. We know. Exactly. It's all about the angles. I tell, I'm the king of bad angles when I take pictures. So I understand this. You can, you look like a different person. I also, if we're doing dumb stats that you should, you should track. I don't know. Are you going to game four? Hell yeah. Okay. You're going to game four. I would love if you're watching, are you going to game five? You're going to San Francisco? No, it's too far. Okay. So I would love to just get someone to do an actual stat breakdown of how many bangs Mike Breen does. Cause it felt like he was making up for lost time tonight with the COVID that he's been out for. I, I don't know. That would just

be a very funny like bangs by quarter. Like when, when is it most likely? Well, this would be, to be fair to Mike, you know, the, the splash brothers hit, I think 10 or 11 of them tonight. So that those are, oh, he's almost going to always give a bang for either one of those dudes. Yeah. And so there was a, probably 10 of them there. You know, Stefan hits when he's always getting a bang. But yeah, I'm not like trying to tell you how to do your job, but I would look at a map of Mike Breen's bangs, like an illustration forever. I would just stare at it. Like, you know, what, at what time and like, you know, when it peaks and everything. Yeah. I think, I think we can take it even farther and do like decibels and everything. Like, like audio.

That's good. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see. Yeah. When Stefan hit that shot in Oklahoma City in 2016 from like 35 feet, he gave the real double bang. He was so excited. Yeah. The double bang. He did one for Luca, I think, in maybe the bubble. That was the last double bang we've had in a while. Oh, that was the one. Yeah. The clipper one. Yeah. That was an incredible shot from the, I think the left wing, but yeah, man, I got to make that map. We'll sell that. Oh, I got to plug something too. We got to plug something. Yeah. Yeah. We got Father's Day. Are we, are people buying it again? Because it's the best Father's, I got it from my dad. It's the best Father's Day gift out there. Yeah. But breaking news, breaking news. We have a baseball map.

Breaking news. He's not here. Wait, did you say baseball map? Yeah. We made the past time National Park soon. If your dad likes baseball, yeah, you're like, let me just get more into the dad culture. I'm going to do a Steely Dan map next. Oh, I mean, I'm going to do a grateful debt. We're going to do a grateful debt one. Yes. I actually told him I did baseball. If we could do a grateful debt, like, like all time songs played and everything, I would stare at that forever, forever. You got to do it. But what's the baseball map? So I took the map of the baseball field and labeled it with a bunch of famous plays and obviously hall of fame players. There's even Big Cat Meadow on

there named after either you or Andres Galaraga. I can't remember which, but it's on there. But yeah, if you go to the goldenhexagon.com, I really do think it's a great Father's Day gift if your dad likes maps and or basketball or baseball. I'm going to send you a shirt and then I'm going to have to mail that map then to my dad. All right. Yep. Framed. Yeah. I'm going to get the framed one. How about that? I'm going to splurge. You don't have to do that too. I'm going to buy all these. Yeah. Buy, buy it now. Sorry. I'm going to watch me buy your map right now, Kirk. We get paid $83,000 an episode. We can afford it. Oh my God. What the fuck? So the crazy part is like you, when you just plugged your map right then in the time that you spent doing that, that paid

for my map. It paid for all of our paid for multiple maps. Thank you though, Kirk. We really appreciate it. This is fun. I like these type of games. I watched that game and I just want to talk about it right away. So when we have it on a Wednesday night and it's an off night, it's like I'm, I'm happy that you were able to hop on with us because I feel, I feel good that I was able to dump my brain out and then now we can, you know, tomorrow we can talk to Hank and hear about Guy Fieri in the club. Dude, he's not going to be up for a little bit. Hey, last, last question. Who's going to win? Who you guys got in the series? Celts. I think the Celtics are the better team significantly. I have a future on the Warriors. I was hoping the Warriors would go up like one

nothing and I'd be able to hedge back, but I think the Celtics are just the only thing that can stop the Celtics at this point at the Celtics. Like they have to beat themselves. Yeah. And, and that could happen, but I would say if you play this series 10 times, the Celtics win eight times. Yeah. I think they just have too much size. It's basketball is a pretty simple game. The bigger, stronger team, a lot of times wins. I think it's Celtics. Yeah. Celtics in six is what I got. I think Boston wins the next game. Golden State comes back to Boston. They win. There it is. Yeah. I'll end it with this. I mean, can you imagine the party in Boston, Massachusetts, if they win this thing at home? Game six. I mean, Hank will tell us all about it because

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far, especially considering the fact that you were like a couple of years ago, we're like, I'm going to start golfing. And then you were two rounds away from the US Open. How's it going? I know it's a little bittersweet, but we wanted to catch up with you. Man, I appreciate it. Yeah, it is a little bittersweet. Played 32 pretty good holes of golf. Not great, but 32 pretty good. Four holes that just kind of were stupid. But it is what it is, man. This is not the last time I'll be trying to do it. Yeah. I mean, it's like you said, like four years ago, if you would have told me I had a chance, those 36 holes away from being at the US Open, I would have thought you were a moron. But like the truth is, like I was at that situation. And man, it's been a wild ride,

like in my golf journey. But man, I love it. I love playing. I still like today, I'm definitely not going to touch a club, but I probably tomorrow I'll be back at it just like, because I need to get better. I wasn't good enough. I could, I could see how like on a, on a day of I'm playing good, that I could shoot the number to get in. Yes. But like that's the huge difference in an AM and a pro, the pros consistently do it. And they're going to be in it regardless, where I would have need to have a really good day. Like those guys don't need a really good day. I would have needed a really good day. And it just wasn't there. But man, it's wild, wild to say the least. Yeah, that's that would probably have been. And we spoke on the phone before you went to this

tournament. But I think I told you this, that would have been your biggest athletic accomplishment of all time. And you're a guy that's played, how it was, you played for four NFL teams. Yeah, like 40 touchdowns that qualifying for the US Open would have been the craziest athletic accomplishment of your life. And it wouldn't have been close. Like, I mean, I would even say, because there were a lot of pros at the qualifier too, my initial qualifier. Yeah, you're playing against Duffner. Well, and the thing is, it's like, it's just one of those things you're like, just even just even get to Ohio. That way it ranks up there with a lot of my athletic achievements, because it's also something I'm not supposed to be good at, right? Like it's

something that like I'm supposed to suck. How many NFL running backs play golf period? I don't know, maybe 0.4%. Like it's just it's not really a number, maybe one guy on in the NFL does now. So like, I just felt like the odds weren't for me to even get to that to that qualifier. And it's just man to get in was nuts. I had to get into the Ohio when I had to beat pros at my club, or at the qualifier that was at my club. And yeah, so like it's just a weird thing that I never thought was really is almost like I didn't think that could be reality. And then when it was, and even when I went out to Ohio and played, even though I didn't post great scores, I was like, maybe I'm not that bad at golf. Yeah, I think you're good. I think we can officially say like

Danny Woodhead above average golfer. And I like the fact that you're just you're going to keep grinding. And you know, I'll put I put my money on you someday being in the US open, I wouldn't know betting against Danny Woodhead and like his will to mean it's more fun if you bet against me. No, but then I hate you. No, I'll tell you something. No, seriously, like we were very, we live in a very cynical time. And I think a lot of people are cynical about sports. But I was like, when I saw that you were in this, I was like, I was actually proud. It's a weird thing to say. But I was like, damn, this is awesome. Now, I do have one question, though, about your your setup. And like, you know, the last two days, do you think the shorts might

have hurt you a little bit because it is kind of like dressed for the job you want situation? I saw you out there. That's a good one. Yeah, your legs are obviously incredible. You know, I mean, guy to guy. But yeah, in my butt. Yeah, I feel like I have some gifts there. Right. Definitely. I would say I have a gift in my butt. But the thing is, too, with pants, I could have wore some pants that just showed it off a little. And even if they were baggy, it's big enough that it's still going to show it off. You could have worn yoga pants. Right. That would have been something. I just saw it. I was like nails with that have been. Yeah. Me and me and yoga pants just strutting around. But then it was frustrating. Yeah,

Danny was sponsored by Lululemon fellas. But I guarantee I'd be wearing a thong because you don't want any lines. Yeah. But I don't. I did see it. And I was like, I believe that he's here. He's very good at golf. He's right there. And then I saw the shorts and I was like, wait, I don't know. He's got to take that next step in his game where he feels comfortable golfing in pants because you know that once you get there, you have to wear pants. It might be a stupid rule. It is a stupid rule. It is a dumb rule. But I think you might be on to something. And I think there's a good chance, say, the next qualifier I make, I'm wearing pants. I might go joggers route though. Yeah. Because that's legal. Yep. But I mean, my gift will be shown off either

way. And I mean, and in some ways, I don't know if it was a smart thing because I don't want to, I shouldn't want people looking at me. No, don't apologize for your body. That's their problem. It would be awesome too. When you get to the US Open and you're like, you know, you're popping and locking and popping on when you go to pick up the ball in your tee every time, just showing off the booty. That's how you get on TV. Yeah. I don't I don't put the tee in the ground like the standard ones. Like I'm like making sure I'm like way down. Yeah. You're popping it. You're twerking on the tee box. Maybe wearing some heels. Yeah. Really lifting. It's like that's super weird. Why does what? What head puts the tee in weird? It puts it in with his mouth. What is he doing?

What? This is so, this is so weird. The tee's in his mouth and so is the ball. Like it doesn't make sense at all. Wait, so what were the, can we talk about the four holes? Let's just break it down. So what happened? Because I saw you started on Monday. I think you were what minus one through five and it was like, ooh, this, we were following. We're like, oh, this could happen. What were the four holes and were they consecutive or they were just scattered? So on hole nine, I was even par going into hole nine. I will say very tough hole. So this course, there's certain places, if you hit it, you can be absolutely dead, just dead. And I end up doubling it. And it just put, it kind of put me in a tough spot being too over going into hole 10. And hole 10, I end up bogey

and that one here, that could have been whatever. But it was just, it was just a tough, it was just a tough few holes that I had. There were also a few, like three holes later, I double when I hit a sand shot to three or four feet. And because of the greens, it was a spot you can't miss it in. I had to play it like two feet out to the left. And it's like a three or four footer. And I touched it and it rolled like seven, eight feet past. And then I mean, it was just the greens are absurd. And then I'm like, okay, well, this is going to be right edge hit it firm. And it doesn't break, but it broke a mile on the way down. So right there, that's two strokes I lose. Because if I'm hitting it somewhere and it's a four footer, usually I'm making a four footer.

Because of where it was, I was kind of dead. So that's two strokes right there, two dumb strokes on the par three, which even if it was one stroke on the par three, on that first par three, that's three strokes right away. It changes the whole dynamic of just how you're attacking the course. And then I had a, I ended up the next time I played hole nine, that par three, I double it again, put it in the bad spot. And then I will say the, the other one, which I tripled, so I had three doubles in a triple. Usually I don't play and have a double anyways, period, right? Well, the triple and all fairness guys, like I was hanging out eating lunch, talking with my, I was already, it was after my first round, didn't stretch at all. First swing kind of a practice

swing, cracks my back and I'm like, oh, this could be sketch. Take the full swing, pull it, put it in the trees, just kind of dead nation. And the thing is, I don't want to say it was, I was already plus seven, so it didn't matter because I don't want to be that guy. But it was, it was, I was just that one, I don't want to say as a wash, but I was hanging out with my boy, Nate Ebbner. He was from Columbus, came up to watch me. So I'm like, why don't I hang with my guy? I don't need to get warmed up. I'd have to shoot a million under to get in anyways. But then, then I end up playing and after that, I have a stretch of like four birdies and like six or seven holes playing pretty, playing pretty decent and giving myself other looks.

I will say the thing that I, looking back, I would have been a little bit more aggressive than conservative because this, the greens are very hard at that course at Springfield. I feel like if I was just a little more aggressive and said, whatever, I'm going to go shoot a low score, probably would have, I played a little bit more conservative than I should have. Let's put it that way. And I think that made it to where I was a little more defense. Like I was playing too much defense and I almost getting me in trouble. You're trying to do the fairways and greens thing from 10 cup as opposed to going for it. Yeah. Right. Right. Well, I probably wouldn't quite 10 cup it, but just being a little more

aggressive because I hit the ball far enough and I have a good enough short game, not saying I was going to shoot four under, but if I play good and I should be at least around even, if you don't, if you just don't do a couple of dumb things and, and unfortunately, like I try not to, but at this course, like there's just the room for errors a little bit less. So if you're a PGA guy, your miss is probably not going to be quite as bad as mine. And if you're playing 36 holes, that's so much golf. Too much. Way too much golf. The qualifiers should be like, and it probably is if you just complete 36 holes of golf, then you qualify for the US Open because that's the rules. It's not, it's not a,

it's not a legitimate thing. But yeah, I don't know. I felt it wasn't one of those things. And this is what's crazy because I never thought this is how I would have felt even though I didn't shoot like the score that I wanted to. I mean, I didn't feel out of place. Yeah. That's a big step. Yeah. Yeah. And that's the thing is like, usually you'd probably feel out of place, right? I didn't feel out of place. I just, I made a couple of dumb mistakes and it's like, okay, maybe next time I'm next time I won't do that. And I'll play more aggressive than I did in the past because it's like, if you want to qualify, even though, even if it's a hard course, you kind of have to go out and take it regardless because it's a one day tournament. It's not, I mean, yes, it's 36 holes,

but it's not four days. It's a one day tournament. If you want to qualify, you still have to go out and take it. And I don't think I had that attitude honestly until the second round. And I was just like, whatever, man, I'm going to just go shoot a score. And that's when I started just birding holes. Like, because I was like, no, I'm not going to do this anymore. I'm not going to do this. Like, oh, I'm only hitting it to right here. I'm hitting it. No, I'm going to, I'm going to hit the ball hard because when I hit it hard, I hit it straighter. And I'm going to try to give myself birdie putts. And when I did that weird things work again, gripping and ripping. I saw Coach Belichick reach out to you. Or at least he said something in the media. He said that we're watching,

we're all watching Danny. We're pulling for Danny. That was cool that Bill Belichick still remembers you. Yeah. I mean, I'm a forgettable guy. I don't know. For him though, you might be the most memorable guy for him. I think it's like actually Ebner. He probably remembers Ebner. Yeah. He remembers you like guys that play other sports. Belichick is interesting. I mean, I mean, that is true. And I will say it does. It is cool because the fact of the matter is I was only there three years. It's not like I was there for like seven years, but for him to kind of give a shout out, I mean, still kind of a, a cool deal. He remembers me enough is funny. I had a, one of their PR guys reach out to me and laugh because then I put

something out there about how, oh, he remembers me. Let, I love you, Bill. And I said, Hey, Bears, let Bill know because Bill doesn't have Twitter. But his assistant, Bears is like the freaking, he's the guy, he's the protector of Twitter, social media of the team and gets anything over to Bill that says, Hey, Woodhead said this on Twitter the other day, make sure to rip him out in the meeting. You know, like, Hey, Woodhead said, he talked about someone's contract. Make sure you tell him in the meeting that he, that is the number one thing we don't do is talking about another player's contract. So like, I had to make sure Bears knew about it. And the best part is everyone in New England knows exactly what I'm talking about when I'm like, Hey, Bears,

yeah, this is let him know. Cause he's like just creeping on social media. Oh, I've heard about him before. Yeah. He basically like prints up Twitter. He prints Twitter out and then hands it to Bill. And he's like, here's what he gets on his desktop and then prints out the, all the tweets of the players and says, Bill, are these okay? It's almost like, I mean, yeah, Bill watches film, right? But I don't think he sleeps a lot. So I think he has tons of files and papers that he has to go over. And I think half of it is probably a bunch of tweets from players to make sure it's acceptable. Who was, did Phil, whatever hit you up? Please tell me. You know what, Phillip didn't. Oh, no. Let the world know. And I think I might have to text him too. I think you do.

Tell him to come on part of my take as well. I can get that done and talk about his coaching career now. But no, he didn't. But man, I'll tell you what, tons of people. It was kind of cool, kind of weird, kind of like, oh my gosh, this is how my life used to be type stuff. Like just as far as like notoriety, as far as like, I got some golfers that reach out to me saying, congrats, that's sick, whatever, yada, yada, yada, had former teammates. And that's, it's crazy. And then it's, it's kind of weird because then you're going around. And I mean, people know who I am in Omaha. And they still sometimes will say, Hey, how are you doing? Yada, yada, yada. But after qualifying, like it obviously happened significantly more. And I was like, gosh, this is kind of exhausting.

Like, you know, I said, I don't know if it was my wife or someone else. I was like, this is kind of, I guess, what it used to be like when I, because I mean, you're playing for 10 years. And I was like, so, I mean, I want to continue doing this and I want to continue playing and stuff. But I was like, this is exhausting. I'd have to get used to that again. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess the next question is where do we go from here? I know that there's some very lucrative offers out there from the live tour. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I mean, they could get you a lot of money, Danny. They haven't reached out to me. They haven't reached out to me. We can make those connections. Billy is close with the, with the royal family. Yeah. So

Oh, that doesn't shock me. What number would you do it for? What would you, let's just, let's just, your, what's the price for your dignity? Hey, the thing that I learned, big cat, you never play your hand in negotiations. True. Just saying. You never, you never, you never set the ceiling. I, but it is funny to just conceptualize and, you know, there's a lot of discourse going on right now of like, what's the number? Yeah. What's the number that is enough that you just never have to like listen to anyone else ever again. So it just doesn't matter. Wrong. I haven't thought about it. Oh, everyone has a number. I mean, PFT, you have a number to play in the live golf tour also. Everyone definitely have a number.

It's as close as you'll ever get to defining the term, fuck you money. Right. That's what we're talking about here. Right. So it's basically buying enough, having enough money that when everyone says you're a shitty person, you can be like, I don't care because I'm on a boat. It's like, well, did you, did you not see what, did you not see my live contract? Right. And it's a horrible thing to say because we all like would like to be good people, but everyone, I think, if you ask them, hit them with trees here, there is a number for the rest of that for the rest of your life. Right. You can tell anybody scoreboard. Yeah. Right. You're just point and you're like, that's it. That's my bank account. No, but it's not even whatever. It's the number that you don't

even have like those people who are like, Hey, you're a bad person. They don't even come. They don't even come in your circle anymore. Yeah. They can't even get to you. And because you, because you have that number. Yeah, you have that number. There's some valid points too about like, you know, if you want to judge whatever corporation you're currently doing business with by the actions of their CEO, like, do you take Ubers? Yeah. You know, like there's, I think the Saudi royal family actually is the biggest investor in Uber as well. So like, there's like, but I wouldn't even do that. There's a lot of stuff that you can point fingers at. It's just like a little bit more explicit here. And now it seems like, I don't know, I would honestly, I'm fine with anybody

doing it. It would break my heart if Max Homa did it. Yeah. It would break my heart. Yeah. No, there's definitely some people I don't think Max will. No, I don't think he would. He won't. He's also, he's also half Jewish. I don't think they would want him. So he reached factual here. Did he reach out to you? Yeah. Max? No. Oh, yes, Max did. Yeah, that doesn't surprise me. You guys seem like you'd become like instant best friends. Yeah, he's, I mean, he's awesome. Like, awesome, awesome dude. I was fortunate enough when we went down to Arizona over spring break, my kid's spring break. He had me out and we played him and Joe Scovron. That's Ricky Fowler's caddy and had a great time. Like just regular dudes. And I mean, it was fun. It was, it was a great time. It didn't

feel like, I mean, you just feel super normal, right? Like whereas, like if you're playing with some other guys that are very famous, you, it's like, oh gosh, is this going to be like weird or whatever? But it was, even though he's like a top, top player in the world, he doesn't make you feel like that. He just, it's like you're a regular dude. I can't wait till, I can't wait till he wins the Masters and then just forgets all of us. I know. That's the only thing. It's going to happen. Like Big Cat, PFT, Woodhead. Who are you guys? Are you an autograph? Yeah. We're like, hey, congrats on the win. I love your green jacket. Who dis? Yeah. Huh? Yeah, he gets green bubbles. Sorry. You're going to have to, green jacket, green bubble. That's how it goes.

Yeah. You're going to have to talk to my PR person if you want to set up an interview. Next thing you know, I'm blocked. Yeah. I'll send you an autograph hat. I think Max might be the only one that's immune to it, but I also, he is getting so good at golf now. And he is like the trajectory. If you had to bet, if I had to bet right now, I'd put two bets. Danny Woodhead will be in the US open at some point and Max Homo will be win a major. He's, he's, he's having a child. My best years were after my kids. The bump. The bump. Yep. It's a fact. We studied it this year in the NFL. You score a touchdown whenever you have a kid. I mean, listen to Big Cat 's voice. Yeah. Better. Yeah. It's better. Got better. Yeah. It's done worse. I don't know if it

translates in podcasting. It might be the one, the one profession that's immune to the, to the baby pump. Well, I think also not having kids makes you worse at podcasting too. I think just age. Father time steals everything. It's undefeated. It is, it is undefeated, right? Hey, Hey, Big Cat, has your pickup basketball game gotten better? I'm getting boards. Dude, I'm training now. I'm literally just going to the gym and I got a guy, it's called swish house. So they have like classes, but I basically have hired a guy who just runs me through drills because I'm, I want, I want to start playing again. I stopped during COVID, but I also know that if I just go right back into it, I'll just tear everything in my entire body. So it's a, it's a slow ramp up,

but I want to climb. Yeah, right. And also the best part is I show up and when I play pickup, I basically, I could play two hours of pickup and I could maybe take five shots because my job, I know my job, do your job. It's to rebound, set picks. It's to, you know, get dirty down low, play some defense. I show up when I'm one on one and I get to shoot like 300 threes, which I never would do in a game. Right. But that's, but that's awesome. It's the climb. I can, I can see the Miley Cyrus climb song in your ear pods. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to be whatever the US open for a basketball is for a pickup basketball. It is very cool that the US open does have that facet to anyone can qualify. Well, the, the NFL needs to probably get something like that for

like kickers, right? PFT agreed to where it's like a bunch of guys try out. And the next thing, you know, you have a guaranteed contract because I mean, it'd be tough for, for the, for the pod because then you'd be playing probably for, I don't know, the commanders and then it just, that complicates things. We get our ratings would go down because who wants to have a Washington commander on every week? Yeah. Who'd actually get, who'd get less interest. All they would be able to talk about is like, Oh, the commander's lost to the giants nine to 10. Yeah. Ron Rivera would have you shut down. Yeah. I think they should add one more wrinkle for the US open. I love that anyone can like, you know, realistically get in. They should have one spot though for

like the every man golfer where when you go to the qualifying, you're 36 holes, you shoot and every beer is a stroke off of your score. So we get like one just guy who's just fat and wasted into the US open and he can drink like that in the US open, but a solid golfer. Yeah. Right. He's a solid golfer, but he's also a really good drinker. He shoots like 77. Right. I think we had 12 beers. So it's 65. Yeah, exactly. You just mean John Daley. You just want John Daley in the US open, which I agree. 100%. What if what if they did, maybe that's what the live tours do. Oh, that'd be incredible. They're just like, all right, you shoot your score and then however many beers you have. Yeah. A bong counts as two strokes and just guys are wasted at the end.

Or it's like, or if it's an IPA, it's minus two. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? These are good rules. These are good rules. You know what we should really do? Next thing you know, a guy shoots 59 every week. Yeah. We should do our version of the live tour where we implement these rules and then we get like exclusively marketed to John Daley to play. Right. And then be like, Hey, John, this, this is a sport that was invented for you. And it's funded by North Korea. By Putin himself. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no, and then check Putin. We'll figure it out. And then you've got Putin golf. No, you've got Kim Jong-un golfing and he's the all time like record holder, right? Cause he's winning every weekend. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of money involved in it. Yeah. Yeah. All right.

I had one last question for you, Danny. It's a row back question. RHOBACK.com. Yes. Use code take for 20% off first purchase row back talking about golf as Q zips, hoodies, polos, the best in the biz. Uh, I know that the, the, uh, bet was stood for a long time for PFT. Are we going to officially make it that if you make a US open PFT cuts his hair? Cause it was, if you, if you win a Super Bowl PFT cuts his hair, I kind of like this wrinkle that it's still you and it's just a new challenge. I love that idea. And I don't know why, I don't know why we wouldn't make it that. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like it fits. It's perfect. Now I said, I got a little carried away when I saw how close you were. I said that I would shave every hair off my body. You didn't get carried

away because if I would have had a good day, you would have been shaving every hair on your, which would have been kind of sick. We'd be like, Oh my gosh, it's a little spooky. What's happening with this guy? Yeah. But I would love it. Maybe that's if he makes the cut. I think if you make the cut, it's every hair. If you make the US open, I'll cut my hair into like regular length. Either way, it would be sick if you did shave, shave every hair on your body. And we also maybe wear reading glasses. And I could host the Scott Van Peltzer. Oh my gosh. I'll shave my head too. And we'll just do Bizarro World, Scott Van Peltzer. It would be out of control. Like you guys are always already like huge. Like it's cool that you guys still want to talk to me,

right? But stop it. You have to get close to the US open for us to want to call you. Yeah, that's fair enough. Fair enough. But I mean, you guys would be making, if you guys were both bald and had, if you guys were hairless with reading glasses, tell you what, you guys would be lived to our status money wise, not not not what's backing it. I'm just saying money wise. It would just so give another thing that Billy could like in, you know, behind people behind our back, like at the bar on the weekend, he's like, dude, they can't even see and they got no hair. Like their time is up. How's old Billy doing? Not good. He's doing fine. He's doing, he's doing, you know, perfectly average for Billy. He's thriving. He's actually been on a role recently.

So we've been, we've been awarding him emojis based on good behavior. It's like, you know, I don't know if you have like charts that you use for your kids where you give them stickers every time they do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, or like at school, like they, they do like a color chart. If you're on, I don't know why red's bad. Maybe it's because it's like a stop sign. Yeah. You know, and greens like good and yellows like chill out, homie type stuff. But you guys have a color. It's almost like a color chart, but it's an emoji chart. It's emojis. We give him emojis for as rewards as treats when he does something good because he's trying to go to the tight end university camp that they have

over in Nashville, which really just means that Billy wants to go to Nashville and get drunk. Yeah. So we need to incentivize him. He needs to, he needs to behave himself if he wants that type of privilege. Yes. You know, if he gets enough emoji days, maybe you guys like, we'll take him out for an ice cream cone or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. They'll become real life stickers. All right. Well, Danny, thank you. It's been too long, man. Hopefully we cross paths at some point. And yeah, do get us Philip Rivers, please. All right. Hey, sounds good, fellas. Thanks for having me. Good seeing you, Danny. Danny Woodhead was brought to you by our friends over at Helix Sleep. Why would you buy a mattress that's made for someone else? With Helix, you're

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I bought AirPods and I said how long until I lose them and I lost them. Yeah. I mean, the clock starts on AirPods the second that you buy them. I lose AirPods like they're going out of business. Did you see who did you see the NBA? Who was the NBA player who tweeted was Josh Hart? Josh Hart was like, man, I always lose these and he had, you know, when you pull up your Bluetooth, it has all the old ones. He no joke had like 35 AirPods just scattered across the country. AirPods one, Josh, AirPods two, like beats three, like all these things. Very, very funny. Wow. All right. So this is, I put up a poll, uh, April 11th. I purchased AirPods. This tweet will serve as bookmark when I lose them, place your bets less than a week, 4%, one week to three months,

48%. That was the winner of the poll. Three months to eight months, 39%, eight plus months, nine percent. So people, people got me. Yeah. They got me read like a book. I mean, AirPods, David won, AirPods. There's never been a more clear example of a product that was designed by a company specifically so that people would lose them and then have to buy them again without a doubt, without a doubt. And the fact that you can't, if you lose the case, you can't just replace the case. Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah. All right. Sorry for your AirPods. That's a shitty week. Tough week, dude. I know. Real brutal. PFT, your firefest. Thanks for turning around. My firefest, this is actually a pretty funny firefest. So I've mentioned on the show a couple of times, I'm going down to

the shore this summer, have a house down there again. It's going to be a great time. And part of going down there is we're trying to like sponsor some of the things I'm going to be doing. For example, like grilling out, maybe we can get some Omaha Steaks there. You're getting free stuff. We have a nice plug. Yeah. And one of our favorite companies in the world, Chevy, is going to be giving me the Silverado that Billy and I and Bubba drove across the country on our way to the Super Bowl. So we're going to get it wrapped was the idea. And I wanted to put, I wanted to turn the Silverado until the Silver Shark. Like put gills on the side and have like fins and teeth and shit going over the grill. So turns out, what? I actually don't. I think

I know where we're going with this. I actually don't know though. Yeah. So it's great. It's awesome that Barstil and Chevy are going to help me out with this. And so we submitted the design to get it wrapped. It looks like it's going to be awesome. And then they got back to me earlier this week and they said, Hey, just so you know, I don't know when you need to have this truck down at the shore. I'm planning on taking down there like at the very, very end of the month. But they're like, Hey, we're going to need for it to be wrapped for out and about in the Barstil Gay Pride wrap. And I need to take the truck down to move my stuff in before they're going to be able to get it wrapped as the shark. Love it. And knowing how I just am reluctant to do anything

that requires work. I'm probably just going to end up driving the Gay Pride Barstil Silverado around Jersey Shore all summer long. You should. And you should. So yeah, what are you a Tampa Bay Rays player? Yeah, yeah. Am I bigot? Am I bigot for wanting the shark? Yeah, I think you should. It's going to be a look. Yeah, if that ends up happening. You got to lean into it. I think I might have to just lean into it. Yeah. Hot Boy Summer. Yeah. You'd probably get in some good conversations. Yeah, no. Stop in the truck and everything. And you know what? It's probably a good way to not have conversation with somebody. If somebody would go out of their way or like hate on that. Yeah, you're weeding out. I'm weeding out the bad hangs. Yeah. Yeah. So I might

just be driving a Gay Pride truck around for the entire summer, which is fine. Like we say, love is love. Probably not going to get that live money now, though, which is tough. But we can we can evaluate that when the time comes. Yeah. Yeah. The live money. Yeah, you might have to be excluded from it. I think you I think it's a good I think you got to drive the truck. I love the truck. What's wearing the ribbon? Yeah, exactly. You got to wear the ribbon. I will. All right. My firefest is also I just has Joey and Pat's face on the truck. I believe beautiful. I've seen. Have you seen the designs? I've seen. I have not. No, that will be very, very funny. Send it over to me because I'd like to see what would I could potentially be

rolling around because I could delay and get the truck wrapped in the shark, which looks awesome. I love the shark idea. But you should get the shark rainbow. But there are some things that I want to get down there for right at the beginning that I'm going to need the truck for. So it's like, what do I want to do? Do I want to like schedule another time to take the truck all the way back to New Jersey, get it rewrapped and then pick it up? Or am I just going to be like, you're trying to see it because then you're also kind of low key silencing. Yeah. The gay truck. LGT. Right. LGT. BQPFT. Yeah, there it is. Throw it all in there. I bet you if you tweet that, people, someone will be like, fuck, how many letters are there now? Yeah. Bullshit. Yeah.

I just sent it. I want to see a picture of it. I sent it to both of you. Okay. I'm looking as well. Um, my fire fest is, uh, wait, hold on. I'm looking at it. Oh, that's a perfect truck. You have to keep it proud. Proud AF out and about. Proud AF. Yes. Proud AF on the top. Dude, you have to keep that. I'll have to be mad if you don't. They should put you as a third picture in the thing. Just so people know it's your car. Yeah, I'd be mad if you don't. You have to keep that. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, I do want my face on there if it's going to be like Pat and Joey or maybe I'll put somebody else's face on there. The mam shirts. That's going to be great. That is going to be great. Um, all right. I, my fire fest is obviously, uh, the Warriors future is dead. I

truly believe that. So, um, I have a new future that I'm putting in that people are going to be very upset about. Um, Hank, you're, you might actually be upset about it, but it's going to be fun. It is, I don't know why I'm just feeling it this year. It's subway series. I'm putting in subway series future. I'd be down for that. The Mets and the Yankees to meet in the world series. I think it's 14 to one. Um, if you're a Mets or Yankee fan, sorry, but I, when I said it, I, who was met, oh, Bubba was mad at me because he was like, fuck that. That would be brutal, but I just want to see it in this office and the chaos that ensues. So one down or a million down because the Warriors were not the first future I ever lost, but, uh, we're on to the next one.

You've been doing this all show. I know what you're doing. You guys both are doing it. I'm not doing anything. You just decided to see it's two to one. The Celsius are better. I know. Hank, we're actually not doing anything. Yeah, we're actually, we truly believe this. You have won the series already. I'm not, I don't think the Warriors can do it. I really don't. Do you have a parade outfit picked out? Are you going to wear the pants? No, I don't have the pants with me. Do you need a truck? Uh, we should keep that, that truck forever. Just have that truck. I almost wish the truck was a little gayer. Yeah. Like it's almost like, yeah, it needs a little bit more,

a little more flair or something. What are you going to say? Truck nuts. Good point. I should put the truck nuts on there. Yeah, that'd be awesome. We've talked about it before, but obviously we were just talking about how many like championship runs the Boston's gone on in New York just doesn't do anything. Like I, being living here in New York, like I would rather like the Rangers, having the Rangers, people be excited about the Rangers. Like it's fun. Like it was a subway series. Like it would just be like a fun time to be in New York and I would just root for the Mets. I'm thinking of it just purely from an entertainment. Like Frank, the tank beating the Yankees would be the greatest

story of all time or Frank. Yeah, it'd be great. Just the buzz of the office every day would be incredible and like the Cubs sucks. So it's like, I'm not even rooting for either team. So to speak, I'm just rooting for them to meet in the world series and see what happens. I would not mind seeing the Mets in the world series. I feel like they, even though they're technically a rival of the nationals, when you have a shitty baseball team, you kind of just throw everything out the window and you're like, it's a free, it's a free roll though this year where it's like for me, like the Cubs suck. So what would be the most entertaining world series? I think seeing, seeing Frank, the tank

in the world series and trying to figure out like why, how he can be pessimistic about his team. If they're winning the world series, that's going to be worth the price of admission. Yeah. All right, Bill, your firefest. This one's pretty infuriating. So I was playing basketball Tuesday night with Sully, shout out to Sully. We were there for like two and a half hours. Just two of you or? No, no, we were playing full court with a bunch of dudes outside outside. It was like one of the first times I played pickups since the pandemic. It was sick to get back into it. So we were like playing hard. We were gas like I was totally beat up after it.

What's your, what's your game like, Billy? How would you compare your game to a modern NBA player? I mean, my, like it was my first time shooting a lot. So I was just more inside just getting bored. Dremont Green with less offense. Robert Williams without being 6'10". Yeah, without dunking. No, but I hit some clutch shots, but my shot just wasn't really landing just that day. So anyway, so I'm come back. So I ordered Chipotle on my way back. So hopefully when I get home, it's there. So I order it. I'm walking back then as soon as I order it through DoorDash, it goes delivered already. I'm like, what? So anyway, I'm like, that's weird. Like did not go through. So I check. I paid for it. I get home. I'm waiting.

It's definitely not coming. So I get on the phone with DoorDash. They give me the run around for like 30 minutes. It's getting late. It's like 9.30, 9.45. And so basically they took my money. I have no food and I don't keep food in my fridge because I've been traveling recently. So it's getting late. Everything's closing. So basically I'm hungry as fuck. I didn't get my food and they took my money and I'm pissed. Did you go to bed without dinner? No, I had to. I went to the deli. I basically ate an ice cream dinner because that was the only option. I noticed that you're a little bit swollen now. Chipotle, fix this. Chipotle, I'm pissed. I'm a lot. I'm guac mode verified and you took my

double protein rewards points. Fix it. I want him to have a free gift card Monday. I want the black card for billing. I want my points back. I want my money back because I have tons of Chipotle points. Fix it. I'm a loyal customer and I think DoorDash stole my burrito. I don't know what happened, but I called. They gave me the run around. They kept asking me for my order number which doesn't exist anywhere on my order confirmation. Fix it. I'm a loyal Chipotle. Sounds like you might not have ordered. No, you took my money. I took my money. It's like my chase card shows that I was charged for my burrito. So I'm pissed. Now you're broke. Nothing worse than getting the run around. Yeah. Yeah. And no burrito. Justice for Billy.

All right, Jake, finish this off. Yeah. So we were in Albany last week and we were told to go to this like classic sandwich place and we were in the parking lot of the sandwich place and Billy's like, there's no seats. I want to sit. I'm tired from getting my buck kicked by memes on the cross field. And Billy's like, let's just go to TGI Fridays. I'm like, we are not going to TGI Fridays. Dudes and memes just stayed silent and Billy's like, turn the car around. We're going to Fridays. We're going to Fridays and it ends how you'd expect it. So Jake, why don't tell you the diarrhea again? Not diarrhea, but no. Jake, why did you not want to go Jake or Billy Fridays? It was Friday. It was Friday. Everyone. So you have to go to TGI Fridays. Sick.

Memes and dudes. Went in Rome. Memes and dudes were like, yo, TGI Fridays and they were all down. They didn't say a word. Memes, how down were you and how down was dudes? Memes didn't have a mic right now. They were down. They were down. So anyway, thumbs up or thumbs down? We were in the no, everyone was down. Memes will back this up. We were down to sit, but we were at the sandwich spot. The sandwich spot was a deli and like it probably wouldn't be a great place, but we'd been out in the sun for like five hours. 90 degrees. I wanted to sit in a booth and just get like unlimited water refills because we're all dehydrated. Everyone else was the same vibe. So everyone was vibing for TGI Fridays. When we got to TGI Fridays, it was Friday.

There was all the deals. Jake started. Oh, they're all the deals. Jake started. What kind of deal is like, uh, was that $5 Long Island Ice Tea Night by any chance? No, we weren't drinking. We were driving. Um, so we were walking in. That's a lie. So you can always tell when there's a bigger lie when Billy puts a small lie out there. Well, we couldn't, it was like a rush. Everybody was driving at the time, so no one could drink. Yeah. All right. That's not true. So what really happened as a collective, we're driving anyway. So mean. So we like it was, Duke's was driving. If it wasn't the group consensus, the driver wouldn't have drove us to TGI Fridays. The vibes were high. And then Jake got in there. Jake got in there. Jake was just like getting angry at the other

customers for just Jake was like, Oh, this place. Oh, this is disgusting. I was like, Jake's looking at Yelp reviews and being like, Oh, they just reheated everything. It's disgusting food. So I talked to one of the guys coming out of the store. I'm like, yo, do you have a good meal there? And he goes, yeah, it was great. I was like, okay, like fuck Yelp. This guy says it was good. So we go in and we had a great time. We got wing wings. We got like really good sodas. And it was fun. Oh, really good sodas. Nice. Unlimited refills. It was a good Friday. It was just like at a point in time. It was great. At that point. At a 30 table made us get up because they said, Oh, it wasn't a dirty table. They just had to clean it. Can I button real quick?

Jake, it sounds like you're being a little bit elitist towards TGI Friday. Exactly. It's not my spot. I'll just say that. I do think that like, if you were going to like a really well known deli, you should do that. You should try. I agree with that. If Billy's whole thing was, I want to go someplace where I can sit down. First of all, that's code for Billy. I want to go to a place that has cocktails and beer. Right. Just be honest, Billy. So this didn't want to go to the great deli because they didn't serve beer. I think it's actually the rare case where both of you, it was like Billy's diva was passed to Jake's diva. So you both are divas. It was transitive diva property. So that gets that. Does that, does that come back to you guys as the

parents? No, they were, they were, we weren't involved with them that day. So that's, I can't, only so much you can do. They were at summer camp. Like Ted Bundy had a mom. It's not her fault. There was some low key heat stroke vibes coming out. What does that mean? That means I always span on that. Like you guys are basically in the desert. No, I mean, expand on low key heat stroke vibes. We had no water. We had to play with all this time of year. They didn't have water at the lacrosse practice. They didn't have the major league. No, they had a cooler in the field. You realized you could have just said it was hot out. That was a low key heat stroke vibes. That premier lacrosse league is not providing water to their players. No, no, because we got moved off

the main field because they had to paint some lines. So we're on the side field that had no waters. And like it was so hot, like memes. I need some backup here. Thank you for your service, Billy. We're playing hard. On a scale of one to 10, how hung over were you? I was off the voice. You can see that in PMTV. I wasn't hung over. I was dude. This is this. Anyway, I just need I wanted to sit down and get like cold ice water just refilled so I could chug it. It was that was the vibe. They didn't have bottles of water at the deli. No, but dude, how terrible they had tables and chairs. No, they wanted to be famous of a deli. Wait, you could have sat. That's not true. Oh, he just won the next day. I got you guys are fully yet. Bill, you were being a diva. So was Jake,

but demanding a booth, a specifically a boot. But just like imagine being so, so hot and just and have a sip of water. Yeah. In a in sitting in a booth after being like you getting your ass like beat with a giant metal stick by memes. That's a sentence. Yeah. I mean, I'm still bored for that. Love is love again. The guy part of my quote. That would be a good one. Yes, that would be great. Yeah. All right. Good job. Numbers. 69 on June 9th, which today is currently just to keep Hank humble. He still has not gotten it. 26. 27 or no, 20. Did 26 get taken? Yeah, it's no, no, 26, 27, 29 or 26. Three for memes. Evan, if there is a God, 69, what'd you say? Hey, 18,

six for Bubba, 69, 69 day. What do we got? I was going to go up. Yep. Oh, 60, 56, 56. I feel like that's twice in a couple weeks. Yeah. Second time. How, how, when was the other time? The debut, August 27, 2020. Oh, that was the first fall ever. First couple weeks. Well, we did like 10 that day. Okay. Yeah. Love you guys. orangutans regularly take hostages for food. Stay up to me. It's so better to be safe than sorry. It's so better to be safe. Take me up. Take on me. Take on me.