Pardon My Take - Hard Knocks Episode 1, Olympic Gold Medal Wrestler Gable Steveson, Daymond John + Mt Rushmore Of Athlete Nicknames

Episode Date: August 11, 2021

Hard Knocks is back. We break down episode 1. (2:48-19:36) Hot Seat/Cool Throne plus a brand new game Italian or Pervert. (20:55-42:18) Olympic Gold medalist Gable Steveson joins the show to talk about his incredible buzzer beater in the heavyweight wrestling division in Tokyo. (44:10-1:01:39) Daymond John joins us in person to talk about his new audio book, making it in the 90's and some ideas. (1:03:31-1:38:39) We finish the show with Mt Rushmore of athlete nicknames (1:39:42-2:02:49)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Go right now. Get 15% off. Today is Wednesday, August 11th, and Hard Knocks is back. Football is back. The first sign that football is back. It's a rite of passage. It's like the first leaf falling off of a tree in the fall. When Hard Knocks Episode 1 drops, it feels like you get that warm feeling of, oh, I've

been here before. Oh, we have maximum amount of football ahead of us. It felt so good. Yeah. Football wasn't even back at the start of Hard Knocks. Football was back about 20 minutes into Hard Knocks. We had our first mojo moment of the football season when the pads hit each other. I still don't really know what a mojo moment is.

I think if you were to inject Mike McCarthy with Truth Serum and ask him what a mojo moment really is, he probably doesn't really know. It's a cool thing to say. When you heard those pads click together, I know that that was a mojo moment. I don't want to get Cowboys fans down about Episode 1 because it actually was a good episode. We've had a couple of Hard Knocks busts the last few years. I can't even remember. Last year was definitely a bust.

The mojo moment, though, it really was just Mike McCarthy being like, I want to play a clip of Austin Powers, and here's how I can segue this in. Here's how I can fit this in somehow to make it like a teaching moment, a coaching moment. I don't know. And it gave me a flashback to Fred Hoiberg when the Bulls were really struggling. He started playing like old school in Animal House to try to loosen up the team. I just feel like that's when your coach is playing Austin Powers to try to teach you football. I don't know.

Maybe I'm just projecting here, but that feels a little off. It was a little bit off, but you're right. I think he really likes the movie Austin Powers. And I don't think that mojo was from the spy who shagged me, by the way. I think that was from the other Austin Powers. So the first one. So he's shoehorning two Austin Powers clips into his big team meeting at the start of the year.

But yeah, it was like something that Michael Scott might do where he's like, you know what's a really funny movie I enjoyed that I'm going to make you guys like Mike McCarthy is going to end up playing all the 80s sex romps for the boys. Like they're going to play PCU at some point. He's probably going to put on a clip from Porky's in the locker and be like, this is how things were back in my day when I was growing up at Pittsburgh boys. Yeah. I mean, Mike McCarthy.

So a couple of big, big picture thoughts I had was number one, we do this every single summer in August when hard knocks comes out, we start hyping up the team that's on hard knocks. We all take everyone in our fantasy draft like two rounds too early because they're hard knocks heroes this year with the fact that it's the Dallas Cowboys who always have too much hype. And now they're on hard knocks. I can't see a world that Dallas Cowboys don't win at least 15 games and CD Lam should be

a first rounder and a Mario Cooper should be a first rounder and Dak Prescott, even though his arm is about to fall off, should be a first rounder and same with Zeke. So this, like my brain already can't handle having the Cowboys on hard knocks with their hype and then more hype on top of the hype. And I'm just, I mean, they're, they're, they're, they're going to win the Super Bowl and obviously in my deep down like thoughts, I know they're going to probably win like five games. But right now I'm sitting here like, yup, Jerry Jones, he doesn't have to kill a man. He can just wait until the second weekend of February because they're going all the

way. Yeah. And Dan, Dan fucking Quinn is back. That's what I'm going to start calling him this year. Cause that guy is dropping all the F bombs in the world. He's got the hat backwards. This is a new improved Dan Quinn that we're looking at. He's rebuilding himself this year.

I think he's really taking the opportunity to not be the head coach, where now he can get back to being aggressive, Dan Quinn, the defensive coordinator. I mean, I don't think he took the backwards hat off the entire time. Colin Coward would have a stroke trying to watch him coach defense, but Dan fucking Quinn is back big time. Zeke. I actually do think that Zeke is going to be back this season. He looks good.

He looks, he's, it's Physique Elliott this year. The dude has the six pack back. He doesn't have the belly anymore. Physique Elliott was terrible. Please don't. No, no. It's it. No, please don't.

I know. I heard you. Please don't. No, no, we're going to make this happen. He does look skinny though. By the way, he looks skinny. He looks skinny. He looks very skinny.

I don't think that the, the eat motion where he's eating the soup or the cereal, that doesn't work for a guy that's back to being skinny again. Yeah, no, you like sipping on a green, a green juice. He looks, he looks skinny. I, I, I noticed it before they talked about him looking skinny, like that when you first saw him come on the screen, I have a question for you, PFT, uh, sus or not buying another man a birthday gift, uh, they have birthday week on the Cowboys.

It's like back to back, Dak and, and Zeke, uh, I, I think it's, I think it's just boys being boys. Yeah, I'll put it this way. If you're at camp with somebody, then yeah, buy them a gift. Watching Zeke trying to wrap the gift, by the way, was very funny. Just buy a bag, dude. Just buy a bag. He should have gotten a bigger bag to put Dak's birthday bag in.

Yeah. He, it was, um, like the YouTube going on YouTube, everyone has been there. It's, it's wrapping a gift and tying a bow tie. Those are the two things that every person has gone on YouTube being like, let me just fire this up real quick and I'll, uh, I'll be able to figure it out. And then it always goes too fast, but, uh, I actually think they did that on purpose. Billy pointed it out because last year, remember was the famous birthday party between the two of them, uh, during the COVID lockdown.

So this year they were like, let's make a real note of it. They were just getting each other presence here. Um, I think so, all right, so the number one moment from the entire episode, we have to give it to the, I want, I want to try the cake, uh, the, the offensive lineman who is huffing and puffing. Um, I can't remember who it was. Uh, I think he was a practice squad last year, but he, that moment was so fucking good. Isaac, I'll, I'll, I'll, I'll, can you, can you get that pronunciation for me, Jake?

Huffing and puffing being like, I want, I want to try the cake. I want to try the cake was so fucking good. But here's my question. It feels like we have a little tension already, Mike McCarthy and Dak Prescott, Jerry Jones and Mike McCarthy. We had Mike McCarthy. When Jerry Jones started talking about how he wanted to kill a man and then started crying and rambling, Mike McCarthy was side-eyeing and being like, what the fuck is this guy

talking about? And then like Jerry Jones coming out to the practice field and being like, Hey, when can we get Dak back? Like can he just do some short throws and stuff? I just, I don't know. It'll be interesting to see because it does, it does feel like those guys might not totally get away. There was, there was definitely a little bit of tension.

I think there's always tension with Jerry Jones. You never know. Like Jerry doesn't tell his coaches what he's about to say in the press conference in front of him. And I don't know if he was crying or if his face was just leaking from his most recent surgery, but Mike McCarthy was definitely like squirming in his seat. Mike McCarthy is not a guy that likes to see another man express emotion next to him unless it's anger.

If it's anger or like pure joy, then he's fine, but like any actual emotions, not so much. And then when Jerry gets on the phone, I actually thought that was the best scene of the episode when he got on the phone trying to see if Dak could maybe do short passes and said along, maybe he can throw like a ping pong ball or something. And then he hangs up the phone and he takes his breakfast sandwich, the biscuit with the sausage. I think it was a McGriddle.

I think it was a McGriddle. It wasn't, it wasn't because I recognized the wrapping around it. It was like, it was something that you might find at like a Panera, like a Panera breakfast sandwich. No, that was a McDonald's. They blurred out the M. It was a McDonald's. Oh, they blurred it. So yeah, it was a McDonald's.

So he, and then he salts, he's salted his McDonald's. He dumped a whole shitload of salt onto his breakfast sausage at the end, which I'm pretty sure if you looked up the nutrition stats, Billy, maybe you can take, take care of that from the nutritional aspect, see what, see what the daily amount of sodium or the amount of sodium that's contained in one sausage McGriddle is. And then we can estimate how much extra salt Jerry Jones was putting on that. I did. I did notice he also drinks his coffee black.

That's a fucking man after my heart right there. That's just hard work. Salt and coffee gets the body going in the morning. What do you got for me, Jay? We're looking at all our cones, all our cone, Isaac, all our cone, HL dash, A R E dash cone. I want to push back on one thing though, PFT, Mike McCarthy did show emotion when he found out that Dak Prescott's arm is fucked up and it made me think is a head coach finding out that their star quarterback might be injured.

I think that's the most devastating news you could ever give a head coach like I'm talking, you could tell them their family just got kidnapped and they'd be like, all right, well, we'll figure out after practice, but the trainer walking up and being like, Hey, it's a muscular thing. We don't know. He, he got fatter in the moment. Like he, he, he kind of, you could see him get a little winded just from that news. And it made me realize that a head coach getting that news, I need every head coach to be mic'd

up when they get that type of news because it is absolutely devastating. It's like snuff porn. Yeah. I don't know if he got fatter in the moment or if his body spontaneously put on another layer because Mike McCarthy is the king of layering up in all these clips. He's got like a long sleeve t-shirt, a t-shirt underneath that, and then maybe a vest or a polo shirt on top. He's just, he looks like he's prepared for any weather.

But yeah, he was like, you know, immediately he was like, fuck, you got to be kidding me. But I think we'd probably have that same reaction if Ben D'Nucci was the guy that was, Ben D'Nucci did not look great. No. This episode. Every time they showed him actually attempting a pass, it was either an interception or it was like over somebody's head by 20 feet. The D'Nucci, which I think we should call it this, is him falling backwards in the pocket

and throwing the ball. He's always kind of half, his body's half falling down, trying to avoid a sack while also attempting a throw. So I think he thinks he's Patrick Mahomes. It's an extra element. It's a sidearm throw as he's turning away from the pass rush. And then he misses it like three yards to the outside. But yeah, that every clip that they showed of D'Nucci, it wasn't great.

The other thing I noticed was, and it's going to take a lot of getting used to, is Michael Parsons wearing number 11. I was watching it. I was like, this guy weighs 205 pounds and he's a linebacker. And then I looked up his stats and he's like six, two and 250 pounds. The 11 totally screws up my brain. Michael Parsons is going to be nasty. I love watching the moment where guys realize that he is a first round talent for a reason

and he's a special player when they were like, you could, you could, they had the clip of being like, holy shit, number 11 is fast. And Michael Parsons also just likes to snack, complaining that at Penn State they had snacks at the sideline in the Dallas Cowboys. Like Jerry Jones, if you watch this episode one, which I know you will, and you're listening to this show right now, get some fucking snacks on the sideline. Come on, like get some snacks for at least Michael Parsons. That's your first round pick.

That's the guy that's going to fix your entire defense allegedly just by drafting him. Get some snacks for him because he was hungry. He was chowing down on orange slices at halftime, knowing you didn't even have to go back into the game when he was calculating how much sitting he had to do. And he was still like ravishingly hungry in that moment. That's one thing that I realized is that, you know, preseason football sucks when like even the guys that are playing the starters are bummed out that they have to sit down and watch two and a half hours of preseason football after they get, but he was just like, God,

this is going to suck. Do we have to do this every week? And then Doresh was like, yeah, especially if you're injured. Yeah, right. Yeah. Which guess what? You're on the Cowboys. You're a linebacker.

You will be. Yeah. Another thing, this is kind of like looking ahead to the future because it's something I read earlier today about Randy Gregory. So they had a little clip of Randy Gregory. A lot of people forget that he's on the Cowboys and he's active this year. He went to rehab. He's getting his life together.

But you know what they did, like the way that he gave up smoking weed, because I think like 0.0001% of people who start smoking weed actually get addicted to weed. I think Randy Gregory like is one of those guys, but to get him to stop using drugs, he's now smoking a pack of cigarettes every day. So instead of smoking weed, he's just, he's just blazing through, through SIGs. So they should let Randy Gregory do SIGs inside in the defensive room. All right. Other things that quick hitters, uh, Kellen Moore is way too young like that.

When he was trying to talk to the offense at halftime of the preseason game, I was like, holy shit, this guy's young. I don't know. He's got to grow a mustache or something. Um, I, something about his look, he needs to add some age if he wants to be considered a real guy. And I know there's young head coaches now, but he still looks very young. His baby face.

Jerry likes to keep one guy around like that at all times, like the presumptive head coach and waiting. That's a lot younger and is like his guy, just to keep the head, the actual head coach on his toes throughout the season. Yeah. Um, and let's see. I think that was about it. Uh, Billy, Billy took notes as well.

Billy, do you have some notes for us? Well, we pretty much covered a lot of it. Uh, yeah. Okay. Take the cake. The cake. The cake was awesome. Oh, and John, John Bones fossil explaining, uh, his vasectomy to like a room full of

alpha male, 22 year olds. That was a great moment. Yeah. They're like, wait, so you don't come anymore. It was like you talking to all business, exactly how vasectomy works. Uh, I also had, there was Charlie fuck around in high school, Harry, yeah, like two guys that, that Mike McCarthy made up high school, Harry. I thought that was a nice little nod to our guy.

Yeah. Little Sasquatch. Yeah. Um, I don't know what Charlie fuck around is, but, um, but I liked hearing, I just like hearing coaches cuss because you don't get to hear that on like the NFL films, all that stuff. So anytime you hear a head coach drop an F bomb, I think that's always a real treat. Uh, let's see what else.

There was one of them. Also, Mike McCarthy in that one scene when everyone's in coaching attire and he's just decided to wear like an Ed Hardy, uh, going out shirt. That was bizarre. What was he doing there? Was he just trying to prove to everyone he's got more money than them? That was a cold special. I think he bought, I've seen that shirt before.

And yeah, I think he had it upside down to the collar. Yeah. Oversized, like ill fitting dress shirt when everyone else is wearing sweats, just to be like, yeah, I'm the coach. Don't worry about it. Oh, you, you know why he got upset when, when Dak strained his shoulders? Because like Mike McCarthy, we know he's a huge analytics guy, uh, going back to his introductory press conference where he just made up the fact that he's been studying analytics.

Yep. Uh, I think his major analytics move that he put in this soft season was just tracking Dak Prescott like wildlife. Like he was like a great white shark that he's been tagged off the coast because, you know, after that first practice, he's like, oh man, Dak, Dak moved around too much of practice day. We're going to have to calm them down and keep them on the sidelines. I think realizing that Dak was not going to be able to track, be tracked to practice.

That really put a whole wrench in his new analytics system. Yeah. 575 he recorded a 575 that made no sense. But, um, and, and shout out to Dak for having the wherewithal to not throw the cake because he was about to throw the cake and then he realized that he's gotten probably needs Tommy John surgery. So he didn't throw the cake. So that was, uh, I think everyone was holding their breath in that moment.

Like his DAC about to throw this cake and, and hurt his arm even more. I just, I don't know what's wrong with him. I just know that when you have to start consulting like MLB training staffs, that just feels bad. Right. Yeah. That doesn't feel good. It's definitely not a good sign.

I think we're going to get like daily updates on Dak Prescott. Like we got with Andrew Luck the other year when it was like, okay, now he's throwing a Nerf ball. Yeah. Now he's throwing a high school sized football. Now he's, he, uh, through an NFL football underhanded twice today. And now he's going to do long toss with a, with a baseball over at the Rangers facility. It's going to be an ongoing saga of whether or not his shoulder is going to be okay.

But, um, yeah, football's back. I like football's back. Football's back. All right. Cool. Throne. Hot seat. Cool.

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He said he wanted a hundred million dollars. He bet on himself today. He signed a one year 5.9 million dollar contract minimum. That's the minimum you can sign for with the Celtics betting on himself again. Yeah. Well, cool. Celtics. It's good for the Celtics.

Like you're going to get the hungriest, you know, Dennis Schroeder you can get. Well, you know what? I'm always also last year was also the hungriest in Schroeder. I'm always in favor of guys betting on themselves. This is the downside, but he just keeps on doubling down and betting on himself. Eventually it will come through. Has to. Right.

He was posting videos of him like skateboarding while he was still free agent, which I thought was insane. I'm keeping his legs warm. Don't you eventually get to a place in the NBA where if you just if you just play long enough like a team has to offer you a contract for a lot of money, right? Yeah. No, that is true. That's absolutely true.

It's a veteran minimum where if you're over 10 years, you just automatically get $10 million no matter what. There we go. Howard rule. So he's going to bet on himself for how many more years does he have another like he will this one year? Yeah. But I'm saying like to get to the 10 years.

How old is he? Whatever. Let's just say he's got four more years of betting on himself. 27. 27. Very close. Hank, four more years of betting on himself. Then he officially the bet will come through and he'll just be in the NBA until he decides

that he's done with the. I love it. Because he was trying to speak it into existence because I think at the time when he said that he wanted 100 mil, everybody was like, what the hell? There's no chance that he gets it. But by putting that out there into the universe, they call that the secret, right? Yes. If you just pretend to be something like we pretend to be the best sports podcast.

We've done it long enough that it's actually come true. Yes, exactly. So good luck Dennis Schroeder. Oh, and then staying on your name is Dennis, which is just funny like Dennis and maybe that's just because of Dennis the menace, but Dennis is a little skincare thing. So I think we need Dennis ramen, but he was the worm. I don't know. We need to work on a real brand for Dennis Schroeder, because I think a solid nickname

form could help him get up to that next level. Dennis flies in Boston, though. Dennis. Yeah. Dennis Leary. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah. He's just changed his name to Dennis Leary. And we're like, that guy's funny. Or Dennis Leary and get like a gold tooth. Yeah. He also plays a good firefighter, right? Wasn't that Dennis Leary? Yeah.

I think so. Yeah. Backdraft. And truck commercials. Yeah. Not our truck. Not our truck. All right.

You're a cool throne. Ben Simmons. Yeah. Happy learned how to putt. He's taking our, he's taking our advice. He posted a video him and Rondo, two of the most lethal shooters in NBA history, just fucking wedding threes, both back to back to back. I think they hit like eight in a row.

It was, it was three and two, but that's pretty much eight in a row. Whatever. I had some people pushing back when I was like, this just proves how good NBA shooters are because I really do think it's true. Like even guys who can't shoot, Ben Simmons, I guess he can shoot. He just chooses not to. But every guy on an NBA roster is incredible in an empty gym. Like he just is.

I bet you if you put Dwight Howard out there in an empty gym, he would make all his threes too. Or most of them. That's just how good they are. I think, I think Ben Simmons though, he needs to just kind of walk before you run in this situation. Just post some clips of you dunking. It's gotta be.

Just answer that question first. Are you afraid of baskets? Yeah. It's gotta be very exhausting. The 76ers fans have moved on, but it's gotta be exhausting to see the same thing every summer. Then nothing changed. I do kind of hope though that he comes back next season and whatever team he's playing

for, if it's not the 76ers, it will be the 76ers. I hope he's just sick. I hope he's just, they can't trade him. Ben Simmons. I'm, I'm, I've said this before and obviously he's not going to be on the bulls now because the bulls have got Lonzo ball and they've made a bunch of moves, but I'm kind of low key addicted to Ben Simmons because he really is like a penny stock. If he could figure it out a little bit, it would, it would, he'd be incredible.

Like he would be, you know, a starter on the all-star team because he's got all the other stuff, defense, passing, dribbling, being like a matchup problem. If he could just figure out when to shoot and have the balls to shoot, I'm telling you, invest now. I'm thinking the moon. We're bystics. We need the moon. We need Elon Musk to tweet about Ben Simmons and then he'll just pop.

Any Matthew Bevilakwa to, to, to sell me on Ben Simmons, a.k.a. We're bystics. That's not a spoiler. Yeah. It's just a statement of fact from soprano. It's like when you do a, uh, when you do an interview with Jordan Belfort, here, sell me this Ben. Yeah.

Exactly. Boom. Done. Nice pun. Yeah. Okay. Uh, PFT, your hot seat. My hot seat.

Um, my hot seat is going to be Joe Buck. Joe Buck's hosting Jeopardy this week and, uh, everyone's going to hate him. I think Jeopardy James actually roasted him saying that, uh, the people at Merv Griffin said whoever's going to be the next host of Jeopardy is going to have to quit their other job. Yep. And so he's saying, he's saying for, for the sake of everybody who watches NFL football, I hope they give the job to Joe Buck.

Yeah. Kind of roasting. That's kind of Jeopardy James's thing is like he's, when he's not on Jeopardy beating people, he's just wrote, he's just at home watching Jeopardy, making fun of the people that aren't as good as him. It's like a KD situation with him. I would miss Joe Buck very much. I would miss him too.

I think that people have come around on Joe Buck for the most part, but I don't think that people realize the hole that Joe Buck would leave in like Sunday afternoon announcing if he were to leave. And I think that Troy would just continue to call whoever got replaced Joe. Yes. I just need, I love hearing Troy Aikman say the word Joe on Sunday, but it looks like the guy that's going to be the next host of Jeopardy. They kind of said that they were negotiating the contract.

His name's Mike Richards. That was confusing when I first heard that Mike, I thought Mike Richards was at Colorado Rockies games full time. Oh, all time, all time comeback if, if Michael Richards was the Jeopardy host, but, but this is a different Mike Richards. This guy was the dude who was in charge of leading the search to find it's like the Dick Cheney. Yeah.

George Bush. I'll find your next vice president. Yeah. Yeah. Guess what? No one's as good as me after vetting everybody very thoroughly. Hire myself. Hire me.

Yes. Yes. It's just disgusting behavior from the Jeopardy fans. Just not liking Joe Buck. Agreed. You kidding me? Agree. A disgusting act.

That is a disgusting act. Use that hate for something that needs it. Like Andrew Cisleano. Yes. In four weeks. I'm going to start mentally bracing myself now because I know week one. Yeah. It's on.

It's on like Donkey Kong. Jake, me and you were fucking facing each other. I like Hanson too. No, you don't. But yeah. I'm already mentally ready for that. Okay. Good.

Andrew Cuomo is going to be Andrew Cuomo because he resigned and he used our advice, which is just saying, I'm Italian. Yep. I'm not a pervert. I'm Italian. That's the Mike Tarrico defense as well. It works well anytime it's been deployed. So he did resign today.

Many people are saying he's going to come back in like a couple of years and try to run again after he seeks treatment for being a pervert. But yeah, Andrew Cuomo, the Italian, I'm not a pervert. I'm Italian. I just touched people. There's no coming back from that. I need to see more mixed tapes of him touching people though. Yeah.

He did it himself. Make it a weekly thing. It's still incredible to be like, hey guys, I'm not inappropriate. Here's a highlight reel of me touching a bunch of people. That wasn't really what he was going to eat. Someone should have thought that out a little bit better. I think it was very funny though. Oh, it was hilarious.

But it was not exactly what they were trying to prove. More should have been like, I don't touch people and just deny, deny, deny, like most politicians. Yeah. As long as you don't admit anything, you don't ever have to face consequences. Tough for Italian people though, because like they have to look in the mirror now and be like, am I a pervert or am I Italian? I think you just say it.

It's a thin line. It is a thin line. It is a very thin line between Italian or pervert. We should actually do like Rick Petino, Italian or pervert. Italian. Yeah. Italian. Definitely.

Absolutely. Italian. Italian. Yeah. Also. Bill Cosby, Italian or pervert. I'm going to do a pervert and also our word. I think he's, I think it's pervert.

Yeah. How the fuck is he out of jail? Because of technicality. That's the worst technicality of all time. They said, essentially the prosecutor said, said, said, Hey, Bill Cosby, if you agree to provide testimony like background information in the civil trial, we won't use anything that you tell us in the criminal trial. And they were like, Hey, my fingers were crossed.

Looks like we're going to take, that was Cliff Huckstable telling us that, that wasn't Bill Cosby. So yeah, just bad prosecutorial, prosecutorial misconduct. Mike Turico. Yeah. No, he's Italian or pervert. Both. The rare combination of both.

Yeah. The Venn diagram. So you don't, yeah. But I think you have to be one or the other. I think, I think Italian Mike is the one that he can, he can. Is he more Italian or more pervert? That's the question. It's been so long since he's been publicly a pervert that I think he's just become Italian.

Okay. And Cuomo is just pervert right now. He needs to refine his Italian heritage. Right. Maybe, yeah. Maybe go like a host football night in America for a while. Yeah. And people forget about it.

All right. Go do the Olympics. Also, it doesn't help that you have the nipple ring. I think that that's what he has to do. He has to like have a ceremony where he gets the nipple ring removed. That's big pervert behavior. Yeah. Nipple rings is like, Hey, regular sex isn't good, good enough for me.

I want my nipples to be pierced so you can tickle it. Yep. Also Cuomo went with a great defensive. I just love New York too much. That's why he had to have his hands all over it for so long. He loves it so much. He had to step down because he loves New York to the point of if he could fondle New York, he would do it.

Yep. But he won't because he's stepping down in 14 days, which gives a lot of leeway there for the fondling. Wait. There's 14 days of fondling. You can give a two weeks notice to resigning in disgrace. Yeah. He gave two weeks, 14 days.

That's amazing. He's got to do a transition. He's got to be hands on for the transition process. Who's going to replace him? It's a female. So yeah. First female governor of all time in New York. There you go.

So what really has to happen is he's going to take his successor under his wing, both wings and then show her the ropes. Ropes. Yep. He's like going to Topgolf with a date showing her how to get a driver. That's what Cuomo is doing right now. Really got to get out there. Here's how you sign legislation.

Let me get behind you real quick and show you. You got to press the flesh with the people out there. All right. My hot seat is Twitter because Jay Cutler's back. Jay Cutler's back on Twitter. It's been about eight years. I don't know if Twitter's ready for him. I don't think he's ready for Twitter.

I don't know. They're oil and water. Either way, Jay Cutler's back. I don't know if he knows what Twitter's like now because he was like, I'm going to get banned from Instagram. So I'm going to Twitter. I feel like Twitter is way worse than Instagram in that respect, but also in terms of unfiltered Jay Cutler might Twitter might not go jive with that Twitter, the actual Twitter, like

app or the you're right. You're right. You're right. The app is more forgiving. Right. Then Instagram. Yeah, it is. Except for if you try to post Olympic highlights, right, then it is less forgiving.

But either way, it's good to have him back. He actually was a great Twitter back in the day. I actually don't even remember Jay being on Twitter. Oh, he was actually very, very funny on Twitter. It's going to be tough for him to get that check mark, though, because the real Jay Cutler is the bodybuilder. I think he got it. Did he?

I think he got it. Yeah, he did. I just saw a tweet. Yes, he got it. Well, yeah, it can't be at Jay Cutler. That's reserved. Jay has tweets. He's back.

He's back on Twitter. Yep, he's already going into, let's see, Williamson County Board of Education special called Meeting. I wonder what that's about. That's probably just the curriculum for next year. Yeah, definitely. They're discussing. All right.

My cool throne is the Lions because the Lions have no turds. That's Dan Campbell said that they got no turds. So officially, they flushed all the turds out. They have no turds. He gave credit to Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn for doing a great job, which was nice because that's rare to give the guys who you replaced credit, but all the turds are out. I'm ready for some Dan Campbell football. I think I'm expecting the Lions.

I'm going to bet the Lions in September. Yeah, so Jake and I were listening to Greeny on the way out to disc golf today as his custom. And he was saying that like he's going to take the under on not only the Lions, but the Texans and they might not win more than like three or four games. This is a major Greeny Weenie alert. If Greeny feels that strongly about something when it comes to gambling, you fade green big time. Yeah.

Who knows what's going to happen with the Lions, you know, once November rolls around or December, historically not the best time of year in Detroit for football. But I do think that the Dan Campbell effect is going to be very real in September. Yes. You know what they're going to do? They're going to outman people. They're going to smash people in the face. He was also talking about the Browns and how they've an improved defense.

Their first round pick. Oh yeah. Yeah. What did the Browns do to like, yeah, really shore up that defense? He's like, I'm really excited about the second county. No, but that's not what he was talking about. Yeah, I know. But that's that's like, there's nothing Judevian Clowney should stay in the NFL for the next

decade and just hop from team to team. So everyone can have that take of, well, they have Judevian Clowney now. Like the Titans were a terrible defense last year. If Judevian Clowney can put it all together. Yeah. If Judevian Clowney can do that play that he did against Michigan, every single game this year, I think that the Browns will have a much improved defense. But Jake, what was Greeny talking?

What did we discover that Greeny was talking? So we're looking at who they got. Obviously Clowney, Greg Newsom, the second cornerback Northwestern. OK, he's actually a really good player. He's a he's a good, he's actually a very, very good player, but Greeny was talking about him like he's about to become the most valuable player of the NFL. He is a good player. But yeah, I understand.

I understand where there's a little conflict of interest. Also hot seat. I totally forgot, but we did play disc golf today. We're going to be posting that on Monday and I think ball golf, as our instructor told us, that's what he called it, ball golf. You guys play any ball golf is now on the hot seat because disc golf is the future. It is absolutely the future. We had a great time with the boys.

So tune in on Monday for a great week, starting off. So cheap to. It is. It did we pay? It was like $10 to get into the state part. Oh, that's it. So we could have stayed forever. Yeah.

Yeah. OK. But ball golf, that was very funny. He's like, you guys play any ball golf? Excuse me? OK. Yeah. I mean, he's like, well, I have to call it something different

than what we're playing. I also said, you could just call it golf. When we first got there, he was setting us up with discs. And I was like, I said, I mentioned the word Frisbee and he legitimately stopped in his tracks and like stared me down. Yeah. You don't say the F word. He's like, you mean disc?

I was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry. And you're like, I'm going to play two on two game. He's like, oh, doubles. Yeah, yeah, shout out, Kyle. Great instructor. Awesome player. I feel like discs or the word disc is only now used in disc golf. Like you were saying for off and I couldn't tell if that like.

No, you're not supposed to say that. Yeah, because I was saying that in my head. I was like, I feel like he's probably fuming right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely was getting. That was a micro regression by me. Absolutely. Uh, Jake, hot seat is taunting.

So the NFL came out with new rules today and automatic ejection for two taunting violations with fines and suspensions also in play. You love this, don't you? No, yeah, no fun for the game. And no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I love this. I think you think it's fun for the game until it actually happens. Yeah.

So when you win it, the biggest. Taunter here. You're like, I really love taunting. But when you see like Marshall on Lynch grab his penis as he jump in the end zone, you want to be you want to be like this. There's no place for this in football. So with two violates, two violations jail. Does that mean you can go all out on your first?

Well, they still find you for the first. Oh, I don't know. It's gotta be a loophole. We'll find the loophole. Yeah, just wait. Whenever there's a new rule, just wait till ballot check implements it and then you'll be like, okay, so he'll have everyone come out and just taunt or first quarter and then be like, nope, no more talk or he'll teach some of his players

to learn how to cry and command so that they can go to the ref and have tears coming down their face. Be like, that guy just started. Yes. Boom. Fifteen-year penalty. Yes. Yeah.

And a cool thrown as friend of the program recurring guest CJ McCollum. He was elected MBPA president. Yeah. Oh, nice. So he's got a big voice. We were in his fantasy league last year. All right, we've got to get him on. Talk to him about some, like, does it, does it suck knowing that LeBron's still

your boss? It's a good question. It's, I would like to hear that question for a PA leadership. Yeah. Yeah, so we'll hear from him soon. That was probably part of the like, you know, transfer of power. Yeah. Yeah.

I mean, doesn't CJ have a winery? Yeah. So LeBron was like, all right, dude, listen, we'll set you up this winery, but I'm going to be the real boss. You know what? I'm actually like a little bit worried about this because my favorite part of CJ's game now is his wine drunk tweets that he puts out when he's watching other people play.

He might have to curtail that if he's also representing those players. True, true, true. Billy, your hot seat cool thrown. My hot seat is vegan. So impossible burgers. A new study came out on them. Turns out that they might be seriously damaging to your kidneys. According to a study released.

So but the funniest part is I love vegans. That's I feel bad for them. That's terrible. The funniest part is the part that may be unhealthy was their fake blood. So the fake would fake blood. Yeah, they make their burgers fake bloody. Why? What do they put in there? Why? It's like some soy.

This is this is how far people will go to just not eating a fucking burger. Like just eat the burger. And it might be harmful to your health. All right, vegans, we got to figure this out. I can't wait. So no, Billy, what was your your source on that? Because I saw an article about that, but it was coming from a group called GMOScience.org, which only exists to say that all GMO products are bad.

No, but the study was not by that. It was just found. They published a study. Got it. OK, they just commented on it. We really need a better like fact check for studies. True, because you got a lot of studies. My other. Where do you find all these studies?

One time, like when you you can tell Billy is kind of bullshitting something when he prefaces the fact with it just came out that. Yeah, and also tries to move to this cool throne while we're still on. Yeah, my other. Wait, wait, wait, hold on. Time out. Time out. Time out. Two key words, two key phrases that Billy says it just came out that or they're now saying that.

Yeah. So anyway, where do you find your studies? This was deep in my bag of hot seeds going last. I had taunting and I wrote it down. I literally think Jake looked over. Tell me where you found your studies. I want to know where your studies are, because I would like to also read the studies and CBLI dot com. If Billy's whole Billy's got a library of studies.

OK, my real hot seat is the Alliance Football Club. A new documentary is coming out. And actually, Firefest is on the fire seat because it is now going to be the not the worst disaster. So we're going to watch. We're going to watch that do a documentary review. Promise, promise. My cool throne is my quarterback bracket.

Sam Elinger has been taking reps with the first team offense. It's silly. The call. Let's go. As I said, Sam Elinger was going to be better than Trevor Lawrence. Yes. So we're just one step 12 one upset, right? Exactly. Oh, first, first, first seed. Also, he's a great quarterback now with these new taunting rules. If anybody gives him horns down, boom, 15 yards.

Exactly. Billy, I love this. I'm now rooting for Sam Elinger. Just your quarterback bracket really found a market inefficiency. Yes. My other cool throne is the Jets defense. They're just doing amazing in training. Yeah. Bunch of secondary is awesome. Just like taking everything out of the air. Just it's going to be great to watch them play so well.

Well, they don't get to play against the Jets offense every time. No, no, no, but that's because the defense is so good right now. So good. Yeah. Robert Salah is such a great defensive coach. Exactly. He's got them. They're going to be going up against what many people said was the most talented quarterback in the next three days. Not Billy.

And they're just picking them off left and right. So that's incredible. So they're amazing. Yeah. And I'm rooting for them very hard. Yeah. Good job. By the way, just a reminder, I just popped in my head. We need to make sure that we bring Mario Party for great week so we can play on the bus.

So Jake, can you be in charge of that? You got it. All right. Oh, also, as Peyton Manning taught us, Zach Wilson might just throw like two perfect spirals. Yeah. And that's why the defense is too many. Such a good job. Too many. Yeah. And if he throws 28 interceptions this rookie year, it's fine. OK, let's get to our interviews.

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You get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com slash PMT. OK, here he is. American hero, gold medalist, Gable Steveson. OK, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is an American hero. He is a gold medalist in the heavyweight division of wrestling coming straight. He went from Japan to Minnesota last night. He is joining us.

It is Gable Steveson. I so Gable, I got to start with with my hand up. I said that you have the perfect wrestling name to be in the WWE. I didn't realize that you were named after Dan Gable, the greatest wrestler of all time. That's a lot of pressure. Was that a lot of pressure growing up that you were named after Dan Gable? It'd be like naming like a kid like Tom Brady or Peyton Manning. I mean, like, all right, go Arch Manning.

Yeah, just try to see how you do at football. Man, I'm not really that much pressure, you know what I'm saying? I am named after a legendary wrestler, but I just just stick to what I do best. And that's when and just go out there and put on a good show for the people. So I mean, when I got to the Olympic Games, it was kind of like a fast forward of Dan Gable to me and just for me to go out there and keep the Gable namesake with Olympic gold on it is something special. It was awesome. It was awesome.

It was an awesome match. So can you explain to we were trying to understand it? We're not huge wrestling guys, but the way that you won, can you break it down how improbable it was and how like incredible to have a buzzer beater for the Olympic gold against the guy who I think, correct me if I'm wrong, has he's the defending champ, right? He was the defending three-time world champ earlier in that day. I beat the early the day before I beat the defending Olympic gold medals

from 2016. And so that's probably like the equivalent to throwing a Hail Mary fourth quarter in a Super Bowl, I guess. Yeah. So I don't know. I can't even describe how I did it, but near impossible, but impossible is never. Would you say is that the biggest comeback that you've ever had in terms of how many points you needed to get in such a small amount of time? Oh, yeah, most definitely. Normally, in matches, I have not been down that much, but, you know,

I'm prepared for the worst. And so when I went out there, I was I had a big lead and then I got rolled up a couple of times and I was thinking in the back of my head like, oh, I'm about to take silver and I was like, cannot happen. And I saw I looked at the clock 13 seconds. I took him down one time and I the ref led us up, which is surprising because you're supposed to have like tops like time on top. And when he led us up, I was like, I got six seconds to pull off a miracle.

And I just kept spinning the corner and he gave it up. And it's just it was crazy. Indescribable time. It's it's hard to even like tell you the most and I feel about it. I've heard that in situations like that for like an elite athlete, time almost slows down a little bit. Is that how you felt in those final six seconds? Like you were you were seeing things in slow mo like taking one step

ahead of him or was it just like, let's go out there and let's make something happen. It was just like it was just pure heart. Like let's go out there and make something happen. It was just when I was spinning behind, I kept I was like peeking at the clock on one of the sides on the corner of the corner of my eye. And as I got through, it was just like, damn, I got behind them. And I looked at the clock and it was like point two. And I threw up the two because like from my points and I just like knew I won.

I ran over coach gave me a hug and it was just it was crazy. And then afterwards the so it was a guy from Georgia, the country, they they basically protested it, right? They protested it. They ended up losing another point. So you're even better than that. And then he like punched a wall while you're doing a backflip. That's an all time moment just through and through like an incredible, incredible moment.

Yeah, man. He was he was most definitely heartbroken. He went backstage and he was throwing stuff. He was punching every while he was just screaming. But I mean, that's how the game of wrestling is. You were he worked his whole life for to come to limit games and win. And I worked my whole life to come to and I had to think of it as like it's like a it's like a do or die situation. And that day I didn't want to die.

Yeah. What would you say is most improbable because as an American wrestling fan, my my knowledge base is limited to what I saw you do. And then remembering watching Rulon Gardner back when he was going against the Russian dude and it was a Greco Roman style, right? So like your win compared to his win, which one do you think is more impressive? I've got to say, I mean, Rulon's got a got a crazy win against Karelin. You know, Karelin was going for his fourth gold medal and Rulon stopped him. But I mean, in my sense, I think freestyle in a sense is a lot harder than

then Greco, because you can you can take shots on the legs. You can you can get cheap points off of easy shots and stuff. And so I think we both have phenomenal wins in my sense. I'm just say me for me. Yeah, I did a good job for him. He did a good job. But I mean, point two seconds left on a clock. That's you can't beat that.

It's crazy. Yeah. All right. So this next question is totally my question, not from our good friend, KB, who wrestled at Kent State. But you have a crazy amount of like offensive weapons, high crotches, low singles, ankle picks, super ducks, sweep singles. What would you say your your best offensive move is? Probably my best offensive move is a snap down, go behind. I use it the whole time.

Yeah, just just hit the fake, hit the shot, spin to you can't spend no more. And just just keep going. Tween, do you have now as like to make it relatable to our listeners? Like I would assume your friends when you get drunk, they sometimes be like, I'm just going to take I'm going to see if I can get him down or something. Do you just do you just body everyone like in even in a playful way? Like, no one does it. What was the last time one of your friends was like, I'm going to try to

to sneak attack Gable and get him to the ground. My homie a couple of weeks ago, like a couple of my football friends where we were telling at the career one day and he one of his one of his homies came up and he was like, Hey, I know I can beat you. 15 seconds. Let me try it out. And so he came through and I just I had to flip him up right quick. Do my duty. I mean, he won't arrest me after that.

But to this day, he still says he'd be 15 seconds for some reason. But normally, normally none of my homies ask a Russell. It's just like there's no point. But like when I do go out to places, people will be drunk and stuff. And I do. Let's wrestle one time, please. And I'm like, no, no, like, no, right here. It's wrong time. Yeah, it's it's one of those things where you, you know, everyone's wrestled with their friends, you know, like rough housing.

And then they're like, if you ever are with a real wrestler, it's so crazy how fast, quick and like technically sound everyone is. So I wouldn't fuck with you in that respect. But I'm sure, like, like I said, when when friends get drunk and they're like, oh, man, I could take you down. No, you can't. But go go ahead and try. What about this? What if it was me and Big Cat and Hank all at the same time?

So how much weight is that in total? Like I'm about 190 now. Yeah, it'd be like 500 maybe total. Like 500 pounds, the three of us all taking you on at once. Could you beat all of us? I don't know. I saw that video y'all wrestling on Instagram. I don't know who it was, but that was, you know what I'm saying? Someone someone's gonna have to train y'all better than that.

Oh, I don't know. I don't know. Is that Billy when he took a dive? Yeah. Yeah. If that's a wrestling over there at the bar, Stuart headquarters, I might need to bring a trainer to y'all. Does it does it get annoying? Do people like constantly say, oh, my God, you're so incredible?

Like, when are you going to play football? All the time, yeah. And what's the answer to that? I mean, you're like, I'm doing pretty well with wrestling or is there some at some point you might consider playing football? Because I think when you watch, you do a backflip afterwards. You're like, this guy, you don't see anyone move like this. And maybe Aaron Donald, like guys that big, don't move like you move.

I mean, I've I've considered playing football for the I talked to actually coach Fleck of go for football and he wanted me to come out before I went to the Olympic Games to come come play for a little bit. But I told him after the Olympic Games, I gave him an official decision. So I'm considering playing football. I would I would hope one day that I can get a try with the NFL and I mean, there's some teams that have came and have mentioned me to some some agents and stuff that have sparked interest in me.

So I mean, it'll be cool to cool to go out there and play football and be an NFL for a little bit. I mean, if it doesn't, I got I got another route I can hopefully take. And hopefully everything will play all right. So you're you're six one 260 pounds. Do you have to cut weight to get to 260 or like how much weight could you put on do you think if you want to play football? I probably get up to 285 with the right right meal plan, right?

Lifting maybe even probably 290. I mean, the highest I've been was 270 to 75. So I've been up there. I mean, I still I think I still keep the agility. But with the right football training, they're training different in our so with their program, I might I might shoot up quick. But who knows what? What about your like lifting regiment to put into perspective?

What do you, you know, squat? I do you bench? I don't even know if guys bench anymore. Like, what do you what do you usually do in terms of like max weight on all the big lifts? I haven't maxed out in a long time. Last time I axed up probably like a year ago, but I was pushing five plus on squat, deadlift, bench.

I was pushing about 375. This is about a year ago. What else is there? You can max calf raises. I mean, that's pretty impressive. You did that pretty damn impressive. I do I get a pretty substantial calf raise regiment going on right now. What's the 1,000 club?

What are the deadlift bench and squat? So you can almost get to the 1,000 club without what you can eliminate one of the lifts and almost get to the 1,000 club. Hey, I can eliminate bench and I'm already in. That's what's it like just being, for example, in an airplane and looking around and just knowing like I could kill anybody on this plane with my bare hands like I am the champion of every environment I'm in. I don't I don't know.

I haven't really thought like that, but it is it is crazy. Like sometimes it'll come to my mind like what if like a random person just came up to me and like try to like flex something and swing on me. And so I mean, that is something to think about. But I've never thought about like I'm like the like walking around. I never have felt like I'm the the baddest man anywhere because you know, say I like the I like to be a regular person. So like when my time on a wrestling mat comes, that's where I'm the baddest.

Other than that, like people would tell me outside of the outside of the mat that like Gabriel, you're the legend. You're you're like the baddest person on earth. But when I go out places, I just it's just a regular me. Like I don't I don't mention nothing about wrestling unless someone comes up to me. I hate even talking about wrestling outside of it. Like I just like to I like to chill. Like talk to me.

I would rather talk about like war zone and and others than wrestling outside of the wrestling mat. What do you think of the hacker issue in war zone right now? It's like it's you can't even play the game anymore. You can't because dudes are getting so good with the the wall hacks and the aim bots and the they got the controllers that are that are hitting the hitting every shot and then keyboard players are too good. Like look at T4 I see T4 on the tick tock about eight times a day

hitting sky shots in 360s off the motorcycles. And kids are just too good. So I play for fun. I play just enjoy myself. But there's some there's some really good dudes out there that I watch. But the hacking is garbage. And then it's hard to get rid of. But activists have got to do some about it.

Do you play with a controller controller? Yeah, so I always feel like if you're using a keyboard and mouse, like that's I've done it a couple of times just to see what it's like. And the amount of like aim adjustment that you can make it so much more accurate to play with a mouse. But I just I have more fun playing with a controller controller. Yeah, it's more easy to play to play with the controller. Like the mouse is like like you see like the mouse.

You can flick it real quick. You can hit the shots easier and you can get it. Your your field of view is better. And if you got a monitor, your FPS is all that is way better. So those dudes those dudes are some crazy. But if T4 if you see this, I want to play one game with you. You got my word. Oh, there we go. Make it happen.

I agree, though, the video games we played with controllers. I have a question about beef. Do you still have beef with AJ Ferrari? No, me, AJ Ferrari have no beef. I mean, I squashed out when I saw the person at the National Tournament, I squashed out of the beef, you know, I don't like I don't really do out of the Internet talking no more back in the day I used to. But now I don't need to do on the Internet talking.

You know, it gives people it gives it gives people clout that's undeserved and that's not worked for. So when I when I come to show up for a wrestling match, I come to show up to dominate and I don't need to do on the Internet talking. You feel my emotions on the mat and you'll see me for for six, seven minutes on a wrestling mat that I'm out of there. So that must have felt good when you went up against Mason Paris because he called you out and said he was going to embarrass you in the Big 10 finals.

And then you you've beaten him every time you've wrestled him, right? Yeah, I mean, that was that was really like a heartfelt one because I mean, I didn't wrestle him at a tournament. And all of a sudden it turned into I was I was dodging them. You know, me, do I look like something that would die? Someone like that most definitely. And so his time came where he got whipped on live TV. He got made a full of and while I do it again, most definitely

it's not even that hard with him now. I love I love the attitude. That's awesome. So let me get this just going based off your natural ability to just to be like the baddest man in a room. Which of these two names would you rather work for? A guy named Vince or a guy named Dana? Start the bidding war.

Yeah, let's go or a guy named Roger. Yeah, yeah, you got all the options. Now, I got I got a lot of good options. And it's I mean, it is really crazy that I made it to this point. You know, like, I remember young trying to try to get to this point. You got to put a lot of work and you got to put a lot of effort in. And there's a lot of times you want to give up. But like I said, you're like in chains in 13 seconds, just like I did.

And so it's just, I mean, three good dudes that I would like to work for. Start the bidding war on here. Well, it's crazy, too, because wrestling, I would say, is probably the hardest sport in terms of commitment. Like you guys, what wrestlers go through to get to that level is insane. OK, last question, the Roback question. Use code PFT on roback.com for 20% off your first purchase. R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com code PFT.

They make the best performance polls and the only performance polos we wear. You never had to cut weight because you're a heavyweight, right? No, never cut weight. So that you do get to pass by that part, because I know that you have teammates that are like, that is straight insanity, what they do to cut weight. It is straight insanity. There's guys on the team that are doing 15 a week. And it's like, and sometimes we'll have a duel.

We'll do a Friday, Sunday duel, like Purdue versus Indiana, because they're right next to each other. And guys got to make the first duel like 125 pounds in the next duel. And then Saturday, they'll probably get up to like 130, 133. And then Sunday morning, you got to make it back to 125. Well, it's crazy. Yeah, do your teammates kind of hate you because you just can always eat whatever you want.

I I room with the I room with the people that that can that got a little leeway. So I stay away from them little dudes. You know, the little dudes, they maybe like four foot 11 and getting cranky and stuff like little babies there's psychos. Yeah, when you were a kid, when you were growing up and you first realized how good you were at wrestling, what was that like in terms of the competition? Because I have to imagine that you were probably like if you're a young kid that's just getting started wrestling and you're dominant at it, other kids'

parents like freak out a little bit like in football, sometimes where they're like, why is this kid able to kick everybody else's ass? This is dangerous. Did you have any experiences like that where other parents were were afraid of letting their kids wrestle you? Oh, yeah, most definitely. There's there's probably many there's there's most definitely many times where I was a lot more dominant at a young age.

And a lot of parents were scared to have their kids wrestle to me because I was really hard headed back then. I just like I went out there to like physically like beat you up and push your head in the mat and make you look like a fool for a couple of minutes. But as I got older, I knew like I changed my I changed myself and I changed like I've evolved to the game and I try to make myself as more presentable person and go out there and respect my opponents. But at the same time, I'm going to show you respect.

But I have to dominate you for the time being. And so it's just how the game goes. You have to go out there and win. Like I said, it's do or die. I don't come I don't go to the wrestling at the die. I come here to to live my next life and to keep progressing. So yeah, for a certain most definitely when I was younger, I was just a I was a dickhead, but now now I just now I just I just like doing what I do now.

You're a dickhead with a gold medal. Yeah. So yeah. Well, last thing. So you are a Barstow athlete. So the NIL we have T shirts that are on sale right now. Gable gets 80 percent of everything that we sell. So if everyone wants to support Gable, they're sick T shirts, too. It has we have the comeback shirt, which shows like how much you were down

with six seconds left. And then we have one that like you're an American hero. We'll tweet him out when we when we post this show. But congrats, man. It's it's awesome. That was such an awesome like when you think of the Olympics, you know, in in Tokyo, you definitely had one of the defining moments because it was such an unbelievable match.

Most definitely. It was some special. Some I can't describe. I still haven't took the time to think about it. But it was definitely everybody will grab your shirts. Yeah, but my time on a show. I thank you guys for letting me come on. You know, I'll see you guys again always. Yeah. All right.

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I think it's third time? Third time. Third time. It's Damon John. He is back in studio. In studio live. He's got, oh, we got to fix something. Some issues.

We'll just run through it, yeah? Oh, OK, here we go. And boom, we're going to not cut any of this. I love this. That's how we operate. Probably not the same as the Shark Tank set. No, we cut a lot out there. Really?

Yeah, thinking about it. The pitch is an hour long. You only see eight minutes. Is there any time someone, and we're going to get to your audible original, this just started my brain going, is there any time that someone comes on, you have to cut it because they just bomb so bad?

No, the bombing is not a problem. But I think we see about 140 people, and you end up only seeing 90. OK, but no one's ever puked on themselves or anything? Yeah, people feel people have fainted. How does this person puke? You just get so nervous, yeah. The lunch comes up.

But it's not like what they're pitching to you isn't like an alcohol-related product. No, they're just so scared. They're just alcoholics. Yeah, right. Before they get there. Right. Jesus.

Shows that their product works. Yeah, there it is. So they cut out, like you said, you get to see eight minutes of the pitch, but it's an hour long pitch. That to me seems really boring having to sit through somebody talk about their company for a full hour.

Yeah, but more importantly, the most boring part is generally Lori or Barbara giving great advice before they say they're out, and then advice is 10 minutes, and they're not writing a check. And I usually tell them, all right, so what are you going to do? Yeah. And that's the worst thing. When somebody's going to tell you no,

and they give you a bunch of advice. Here's why, yeah. So you need to do this. You need to do this. They always say, the theory is when you ask for advice, you get money. When you ask for money, you get advice. Or when Barbara just starts hitting on them

and won't stop for like 25 minutes. Well, that's true. But Barbara also will at least dig into them. She'll tell them exactly why she doesn't like them. She thinks they have gingivitis, she's going to say. All right, so what's advice you should give us? I'm not giving you any money. Damn, OK.

I see what you thought I had about that. I knew what once I just said that, that I was in trouble. Ah, fuck. So wait, is that because you don't have any money? Yeah. Hard times? I don't have any money. Do we need to do a round of fundraising?

Yes, we can. Are you one of those rich guys who got richer? Because I'm told that over here, I was told that you did some great stuff giving away money to a lot of people in need. Yeah. I know that I was called to say, bring awareness to for different sectors that didn't think

they can get the money. Yeah. But I could take money as well. Yeah, that's true. What are your thoughts on Jeff Bezos? Should we put him to the guillotine? Why? I don't know, he's too rich.

Something just happened. That's just what I see on Twitter. He's too rich. How can he be too rich? I mean, he's too rich, man. He's playing just the tip with space. I think he's too rich. I think he's gotten there.

Just the tip? Yeah, he didn't go in. I don't think he could be too rich. OK. You don't think so? I was looking at Rockefeller's worth the other day, and they said if he was locked today, it would be $400 billion. Woo!

That's a lot. Ford was $200 billion. Carnegie was around $400 billion. What if one dude just gets all the money? What happens then? He wins the game. Monopoly wins the game. Is that too rich?

No. Would you eat, if one person had all the money in the world, how would you try to talk him into giving you some of it? That's a good question. Or would you just kill him? Ask for advice. I would ask him for advice. Yeah.

How could I get some of your money? How can I stop you from being so hated? Yes. Well, that was actually going to be one of my Shark Tank pitches to you, is just a space shuttle service that only takes billionaires pretty high up in the atmosphere, but not really to space. And then all the windows play videos

where it looks like they're in outer space, and then you land them, and they have no idea they didn't go to space. I don't think you have to go to space. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you just take you up in the air. No, I don't think you have to go up in the air. The video is just turned on while you're in the rocket. GeForce inside of a studio.

Basically a roller coaster in a studio. Yeah. And the billionaires think that they just went to outer space. And then you let them off, and everybody pretends to clap for them while you're still brave. I actually like that. Yeah, we run it on CNN and everything. We get them in on it.

Well, how are we going to run on CNN? We're just going to buy time. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, they want the whole effect. Like, you know, Bayes isn't doing it just to be in an astronaut suit. He wants everyone talking about it. You wouldn't want to see it, and you would buy infomercial spots, and you would act like it's real news.

Yeah, yes. You'd have to compromise CNN. Yes, oh yeah, we wouldn't want to do that. Chris Cuomo. All right, so let's go a little something. Some of that stuff is in my Audible original series, Founding Fubu. Yeah, let me introduce this. So it's Founding Fubu.

It's a new Audible original that goes back to how Fubu got started. So you're going back to the 90s. You're throwing it back. You're talking about being a self-made guy who started from nothing to where you are today. So can you give us like maybe a good story from that climb? Because that's really what it's all about, right? Like, there's got to be a little part of you in doing this project that gets reminiscent, nostalgic of the grind.

Because once you get there, it's fun, but it's not as fun as that like every day all-encompassing creative energy. Oh no, there's so much stuff in there about that. So now, being that it's an Audible original, there is no book. There is no book that exists. Good, we're not book guys. Neither am I. I'm dyslexic.

Now, the Founding Fubu story is not about necessarily, it's about the good time, but it's also about the bad times. You know, it's about almost getting knocked out by Mike Tyson, because I addressed Lennox Lewis and Mike Tyson at a party basically said, I'm going to knock you out and poke me in the chest. And we ended up being on a flight one time, probably about four years later, and he fell asleep next to me. He didn't realize it was me, and I spent four, I spent about five hours trying

to find a way to spit in his drink without him waking up and knocking my teeth out. Or the first thing I bought is, you know, somebody who had a little bit of money. I thought it was the greatest thing ever. I bought the Lexus 360 or 380, whatever it is. But the most important part is I bought the 80 disc CD changer. Yeah. I sat out front of Macy's with the trunk open to make sure everybody realized that I had 80 discs at any time I could play.

But it was also coming up in the business. You know, I came up on tour. I was a young kid on the tours with the first World Rap Tour. It was, and it was three of my friends. It was me, Hype Williams, and Irv Gotti from Urta Inc. Hype Williams, the video director and another friend of mine who they made the movie Belly About. But the way that I ended up creating Fubu was going on those tours with Big Daddy Kane,

LL Cool J, The Fat Boys, and Eric B and Rock Kim, and Houdini and Run DMC, and seeing that I wanted to make the uniform for these rappers and the kids because nobody else was doing that, and I couldn't rap. And I could dance a little. Actually, Houdini had wanted me to dance and go on tour with them, but I was 15 years old. My mother said she wouldn't let me go on a full-fledged tour. So some kid I didn't know at the time named Jermaine Dupri took my position out of Atlanta. So I took about all those stories and turning my house into a factory, going bankrupt almost

three times, sleeping next to sewing machines, and all the good stuff and all the bad stuff. Yeah. But that, like what you just described, is there, are you, do you find yourself kind of chasing something like that now? Because I think we've, you know, anyone who's had any type of success, they'll tell you that that, like that feeling of I'm on to something new, and it's all I can think about. Yeah. There's nothing like it.

Yeah. I don't chase that now because I was smart enough to realize that I can't necessarily have all the ideas. And if I invest in younger, smarter talent, that is obsessed, and they know where they're going, that I can hedge my bets by investing in 50 or 20 people like that that are obsessed. Every day they wake up. They don't care about who else is in their life, whatever the case is. They just work 24 hours a day, and they're going to leave it all in the field.

And that's, that's, that's how I live. So that, I mean, that's fascinating. What age did you find that you were like, I'm, I no longer have the ability to have that grind? Was it an age or was it maybe a net worth where you're like, okay, now I can do, I'm going to transition to something else? No, I was about 35. Fubu is already super hot, but I realized I can grow Fubu, I could try to grow Fubu,

you know, but the industry is changing. But why don't I take somebody simultaneously and let me, let me know, what can I really do? What is my skill set? Was it designing clothes? No, putting a big old five and then splashing a Fubu in a bunch of jerseys is not a designer. I was a great marketer and I had manufacturing and I had distribution and I knew celebrities and I knew the stores.

So why don't I just acquire a bunch of other brands that I can put into that pipeline and now divide Fubu up 10, 15 ways. And when you go into a store at that time, obviously retail is big. You don't just see, I just don't take a real estate in the young men's department. I take a real estate in the bed, in the bedding department, the fragrance department, the electronics department because I find different Fubus of their segment, whatever that is, in different departments. And that's how you scale by being able to replicate yourself 10 times, 100 times.

So when you have somebody younger that you're investing in, how do you, how do you manage to have that same passion about their ideas that you had about your own ideas? What must be difficult to do to like take someone, to believe in somebody else so much that you're willing to throw all of your power and all of your energy into something they have in their head? I generally don't throw all of it in. That's why, because I need to see that they're great executors. All of us have ideas.

So if you ever hear me talk about Fubu, I don't say Fubu was the greatest product. I talk about what I did to make it appealing to people. And when you see young talent, like a lot of the people who are listening to us and listening to you all the time, they know their market or they're trying to find a way to convey to their market what they have that's of value. And if you see that they're obsessed with who they're talking about and they know their customer and they're like, this is who my guy or who my girl is, you got to just bet on that person.

You got to bet that they're going to win, you know, and even when they fail, they don't get discouraged. They don't go, I thought I had a good idea. They go, no, no, no, I didn't figure it out yet, but I'm telling you, I'm telling you this is going to work. So the times that you found yourself like on the ropes, bankrupt or, you know, close to it, what like, I guess, let me actually phrase it this way, a lot of successful people, they get to a point of success and they kind of forget the luck that they had along the

way. Do you, how much luck did you have? Like cause I know like myself personally, like there's a ton of luck, like right place, right time kind of stuff that you can't replicate. I had a ton of luck. I believe there's a mixture of you were prepared for it because if you felt like you had a ton of luck, you also had a bunch of doors slamming your face and you realized that that was just not a journey that you were willing to go down or they weren't ready for you or

you didn't present it to them the right way. Or you may have been too early or you may have been too late. But absolutely there, it is all about luck. It's about luck, but preparation at the same time. Yeah, because I always, I always find when you talk to successful people, there are certain types of people who have success and then they think that in retrospect they had all the answers. It's like no one has the all the answers.

No. There's a lot of times where anyone who had any type of success, they had a lucky break, they had something go their way when it could have gone another way and that writes your history. If everybody had just all the answers, then Michael Jackson and Prince were still looking for hit songs by the time when they were dying or Cuban, he hit a great big oil well. But recently he doesn't have a large company you may know of or the Lotto winners are bankrupt three years after winning the Lotto and 65% of athletes are bankrupt three years after

leaving the league. It had nothing to do with how skilled they were. You weren't able to be prepared for the next thing coming down the pipe. Yeah. Who was the biggest rival of FUBU when it was still in that very much upward trajectory, kind of new startup type environment where things were, you were just starting to touch a nerve in the culture in America. Was there a rival that you had to look at and say, I'm going to beat this guy?

No, not really because we had everybody's rival and nobody was because we were the first to make sports jerseys for fashion. So was Nike a rival? Yeah, but Nike was Nike. We were kind of chiseling away at a little bit of their piece. We did $6 billion over several years. Nike does $30 billion a year. But as we got up, some of my friends became some of my rivals, Sean John and Rock Aware

and they became some of my rivals chipping away at me and that's the cycle generally to fashion. A hot fashion brand lasts about five to seven years. There's the unicorns like Nike and Louis Vuitton, but you'll notice whether it's Ben Natan or Levi's. When I came in the market, Levi's was doing $18 billion. I think they're doing $3 billion now. Yeah, Jinko's ate their lunch.

Exactly. Are we bringing Jinko's back? I'm not. You're the person I should ask. Oh, I'm not. What can we do to bring Jinko's back in America right now? I have no idea. I haven't even thought of Jinko.

Have you ever put on a pair of Jinkos? Those are the ones with the big bell bottom layer. The giant legs, the ones that you could fit two Russian men inside, approximately. Why would they be Russian? Approximately. They are well known for splitting a pair of jeans. It's cultural. Okay, so you tell me, if it's not Jinko's, what's the next fashion trend in America

right now? I have no idea. So something, Cap Canye line, I have no idea. Yeah. Is there anything like in particular that you're invested in that you think might start doing well? Well, fashion-wise, clothing or, I mean, my bomb is socks. Guys are doing amazing.

Okay. Those are good socks. So, coming up in the 90s with Fubu, if you had to do it again today, you're 20-year-old Damon John, do you think it still works or do you think it's like a totally different landscape and people just don't have the attention span or whatever it may be? This would be, I would, it would be 10 times bigger. Really? Yeah.

Remember, the internet didn't even exist. Internet media didn't exist. So I had to physically walk up and get into people's face to sell them something. I also, you know, Fubu, thank God, has become a brand that are a saying that's more pop culture is bigger than the brand. Everybody who does whatever it is, that's Fubu. But I think today what I would do is, I would probably have two representatives, a guy and a girl in each high school and a guy and a girl in each college, and they would probably

get and now credit them, they would get probably $1,000 or $1,500 worth of Fubu for $500. And they'd be able to not only have the brand themselves, but they would be able to sell it and make money. And I think that that would be another form of Fubu because you would have all these representatives. So they would pick what they want to buy from the line, they'd get it for $500, that would be a wholesale cost, and it would be worth $1,500 so they can sell some of it, pay for what they want, and then make a profit off of it. And I think I'd probably do that in every high school and every college.

Do you think that that might be where advertising is going to go for a certain extent? Because if you look at how to sell to kids or how to make trends popular in a high school or middle school environment, who do they look up to? Well, they look up to athletes or musicians or they might look up to certain business people depending on who the individual is and what your market is. But they also look up to who the two most popular kids in their class are, right? So if you can just make the most popular kid in their class wear your brand, chances are the rest of the school is going to follow suit to a certain extent.

I absolutely believe that. You become the thing that you see most of the time or you admire most of the time. That's what you want to be. So you think that that would be a way that you could tap into those markets is just like identify who you think has the right hustle in the high school or whatever and set them up with some food when they naturally become, you know, they become marketers for your brand. Well, you got to let them apply. You can't you can't look for them.

You got to let them apply and say, why are you the hottest person in the school? Why should you have this ability to get a credit line and this ability to sell clothes and make money? And we'll also highlight all the top people on our site and highlight why you are the next fooboo coming up. OK, I'm sure you get to this in your audible original. Like, what was the moment that you said to yourself, like, all right, it's it happened like everything I set out to do has happened.

Well, that that happened early. That happened when I got the 80 CD change. That was all you were looking for. That was it. Right. I topped out right there. Did you retire for a couple of weeks? Just be like, I get a burn through all this time there. Yeah. No, you know, I did retire one point for about eight months and I just got so bored.

Really? What what age was that? I was around 36. You're just like, I'm done. And then I was like, I can retire because I was in between, you know, fooboo slowing down and my other brands, Koogee and all other brands picking up. And I was like, I'm going to take some time off. I think I want to retire. And it was the most boring time I've ever had in my life.

Really? Did you like pick up any new activities or hobbies? You're like, I was fishing a bunch. I was fishing a bunch. I was traveling a bunch. But, you know, listen, after you work so hard, you can't stop thinking. So it's almost like when you have a long vacation, you go, I can't wait to get back to work. Yeah.

So try that vacation for eight months. Huh. You know, and you come back to work with a whole bunch of new ideas. But then I realized that you have to be able to, a friend of mine just said, actually, text me as he said, did you ever get to the point where you just wanted to take off and enjoy, you know, all your hard work, your fruit, your labor, you know, your fruits of labor. And I said, yeah.

But then you get to a point where why can't I do them both? Yeah. They'll just take a little bit longer. But why can't I time going out fishing or traveling the world as well as working, as well as doing charitable work at the same time? Well, that's, that's like the final boss mode. It's like you make your own schedule. Yeah.

Right. And you're there. Well, you know, a lot of people think that you can make your own schedule pretty hard. I have a five year old. Yeah. I really give no fucks about it. Yeah. That doesn't, yeah.

And that doesn't drive with it. Yeah. Yeah. And no, I agree there. But I got a wife, but you, you can, you don't have to. If you're like, I don't want to go into the office today. You don't have to. True.

Yeah. That's pretty nice. 100%. How often do you just like open up your mobile banking account and just look at your balance and then be like, cool and put it away? Never. Never. Never do that.

I would do that all the time. You would? I probably. You start stressing. No, you're an eight type personnel. You're going to say, why is it so small? No matter how small it is, no matter how big it is, right? Um, you're going to say, well, should I be trying to make more or how do I make this

work for me instead of me working for it? I mean, that's a good question. How should, how should my money be working harder for me right now? Cause I feel like my money is like Hank. It's just on vacation constantly. It is. Thanks right there. Thanks right there.

Yeah. Well, you know, you should invest and get it. Listen, I got a really, I got a bunch of really great billionaires are working for me. You know, I got Steve Jobs working for me. I got Elon Musk working for me. I don't have to do anything. Stonks. About stocks, baby.

Yeah. Stonks going up or are we doing Dogecoin? Dogecoin is the only two options real estate. Um, they're not making more land. They're not making more land while they are. That's what everyone loves to do. You know, you know, you check that Earth two yet? No, where's that?

Well, Earth two is, is, so if you guys like, um, uh, you know, all this crypto server, Earth two is, I know everybody's going to start looking over to you can start buying tiles on Earth two. We got some, some of the video guys here, got some, got some Earth two or what are you making? That's an NFT of a fake Earth. Well, is it an NFT of Earth? No, it's, it's not an NFT of Earth. It makes no sense.

They're just selling Earth. But I'm, but I'm very interested in that. Like you're buying Google Maps. Like, you know, when you just Google map and randomly go somewhere, like you can then buy that. I don't buy Beverly Hills. You know, on Earth two, what do you make of the whole NFT crypto? Like, I think obviously Bitcoin is real.

Yeah. Uh, cause enough people believe in it, it becomes real, right? But a lot of these things that are happening, like everyone just trying to get rich quick, it feels like it's not a coincidence. It's happened after the pandemic. People are trying to find shortcuts and people are going to lose their money. A lot of people are going to lose their money. You know, Buffett says it best.

You know, the market takes away from the inpatient and gives to the patient. The, the, the biggest problem with trading anything is now we have too much access, right? So we have our TD Ameritrade's or whatever Robin Hood's. And we have Robin Hood, we have our crypto availability. If you buy something on one of those, the real way you're going to make money is to hold it for 20 years. If it's of value, but if you buy it, you naturally look at your account and

you go back and go, Oh, I'm Gordon Gekko. I just made $200. Let me do it. So yeah, and you keep trading and keep trading and keep trading. And so you make incremental money and sometimes you lose it when the market goes down and that's the biggest part. It takes away your discipline. You have to have discipline to see these things mature, just like in real

estate. Now, of course, if you're playing the flippant game in real estate, that's a whole different strategy, but long holds and, and, and, you know, things like that, that's where you make the real money. Yeah, I've been hearing a lot recently that, uh, that buying real estate or buying, buying homes is not really the way to go in certain circumstances, especially like, obviously, if we're living in Manhattan, you have to plan on being here for 10 years.

If you want to make it worthwhile to purchase a home as opposed to renting. But I've been hearing that, that rental markets across the country are going to continue to go up for the next, you know, five, 10 years. Is that what you've heard? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, but if you buy, you know, um, buy it sharply, yeah, because unfortunately the separation of wealth is the gap is getting bigger, right? And when people don't have, well, you know, a lot of intelligence where it

comes to, you know, digitally and things of that nature. They're not going to make as much money. They're going to need to rent, you know, um, and, uh, that's what happened. But also you've got the Airbnb markets coming out that, uh, that are really doing well because people no longer have to be stuck in the office all day, or they may want to work outside of the office. So rental is doing really well. I'm not a big real estate guy though.

So, um, okay. So let's do our ideas that you want to throw out a couple of, yeah, I have one. So you go ahead. Okay, uh, yeah, a store that sells shirts that have super complicated patterns. Like I'm talking to the craziest designs that you can find on like a dress shirt, you know, button up shirts, party shirts, kind of, but, um, like think about a very complicated shirt that you've seen recently and then triple how complicated the design is.

And it's called Dan flashes. Why is it called Dan flashes? It's just a cool name. Daniel Ricardo. What's right? No, not Dan. No, it's called Dan flashes. Dan flashes.

It's called Dan flashes. Total coincidence. Total coincidence. Yeah. Is the shirt sewn very complicated or just design? The patterns are the most complicated thing that you've ever seen. What they have one shirt that costs $3,000. Yeah.

So average price point on the shirt is 1,500, let's say. So just basically you make, you make the most complicated designs possible and people pay more money for them. And why are they paying more money? Because the designs are so complicated. It's actually not a bad idea. Yeah. But how are you going to market it?

We get like an F1 driver or something? I'm thinking that we should get like, we should get somebody that has a Netflix show to do a sketch comedy routine about it. Are you going to make them a partner? Are you going to make them a partner in the business? Or how much money are you going to use to start this thing up? I would do it without their knowledge of it. And I would, and then I would try to get publicity about doing it by recording it

on a podcast with one of the sharks. Hypothetically. But how is the person going to promote it without their knowledge? Are they wearing? Because the show is already out. It's already been put out. So you're going to just CG maybe the shirt on, on the person? I know.

I'm just stealing their idea that they came up with in a super popular Netflix show that they don't have trademarked. And I'm trying to make out already. Yeah. I'm trying to make a shirt into a reality. Oh, OK. Can I do that? Can you steal that idea?

Yeah. If they don't have a trademark, it's the only thing you want. OK. That's what I want to do. Why don't we steal ideas from China? Like they steal all of our patents. Yeah. We do the back, like, you know, I'm sure we do.

We should do better at it. We should start doing that. We should start stealing all of it. My idea was simply that I just wished there was an app to tell you where the ice cream truck was. Pretty simple. That's good. Yeah.

Like you just always like I'd like to, you know, know where the ice cream truck is. What if you're in like Oklahoma or something like that? There's got to be a couple of you saying there's an ice cream truck. No, I'm just saying they're 300 miles away. Yeah, I would like to at least know if I want to go where it is. You want to stop by the ice cream store instead. Because the truck comes to you. It's also better.

Yeah. So you can Uber the truck. No, you go to the truck still. Well, yeah. But what about kind of where it's a deconstructed ice cream truck? I kind of I understand what you're saying. It's always nice to know where the truck is also for safety reasons. So you don't get hit by one.

But if you had like an Uber for ice cream truck, where you enough people in a certain position, hit the button, the drivers got it in their hands and they know where their customers are. I'm so like I love ice cream so much. I just would go to the truck instead of having the truck come to me. But we can do that idea, too. Is that all the time so you know that you won't get hit by it? Every time I cross the street, I check and you know what?

Because the one time you don't check, he doesn't have his chime going and he runs over your head. How about an app if you think that you were someplace and you think you said the stupidest shit ever that you go to an app where there is freelancers that can tell you shit that's even more stupid than what you thought you said. Oh, I like that. I like that. Yeah, or how much.

OK, so you passing on that idea, you're saying a freelancer would be like, hey, Damon, that was stupid for you to fucking pass on that. Well, he's that you're actually talking about Twitter. The app where you realize how dumb you are. Yeah, we just mean freelancers. OK, all right. How about this one? You build Titanic, too.

The exact same that no, the exact same dimensions as the original one. Is there someone who's it's a great idea? And I've been pushing for this for a while. I think I've pitched it maybe I might have pitched it to Barbara. That's right. And she was very interested, by the way, she's we're in negotiations, but I want to give you exclusive rights to lucky me. Yeah, so it's Titanic, too.

Same route mentions same route and it says the same route. Yeah, well, there's no icebergs anymore. Yes, good point. Yeah, there's less icebergs still says on the bottom. Even God could not sink this ship. And this is underlined three times and there's not enough lifeboats. I guarantee people would buy tickets. I would.

But that's the important part. There's not enough lifeboats. It has to be exactly the same. Yeah, we have not learned shit about maritime safety in over 100 years. Let's run it back. But is the boat with different engines or the same exact same? Every same. Yeah, coal and everything.

You know, it is weird enough where people will actually. Yeah, they would. They would say they would say I want to take a trip back in history. Yes, same exact way. Yeah, and there's not enough lifeboats. That's the important part, right? Because yeah, the danger it makes. Honestly, I want to the only reason I want to invent this

is so I can buy the ticket to get on. I think it'd be the best roller coaster ever. Why don't you just buy a ticket to a regular little boat and just go now? It's not the same. Titanic. Why? The Titanic, too. Did you hear him? Yeah, yeah, I heard him.

I don't think he did. You just said another boat. Clearly, you're not listening. This is going to be another boat anyway. This Titanic, too, is another boat. It's not the same. No, we go get the boat from the bottom of the ocean. Oh, yeah, and have it melt in.

Go get it. And then I didn't think of that. Yeah, I didn't think you'd get in the boat in the same thing that they've been trying to erect for the last 40, 50 years. That's the boat. You get it now. Yeah, going to get it. Next one I have is.

Oh, it's we haven't had a good talking dog movie in a while. That was hot back in the 90s. So it's a talking dog movies recently. Have we? Yeah. Oh, I guess maybe I was not seeing him. Clifford is coming back out. But is he tall?

I don't think he's tall. He's a big ass dog. OK, well, instead of that, how about Zigg, when everyone else is zagging and will do Air Bud, but it's with one human in a dog basketball league? And the humans, Michael Jordan and the dogs are loony tunes. Thoughts? I have absolutely no thoughts.

OK, all right. That's fine. That's fine. You don't say no thoughts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's see. Ice golf. How long does it take you to come up with these?

Like less time than it does for me to say them out loud. All right. Wait, ice golf is the barber one, right? Which one? What did you say? Ice golf. Ice golf. Let me ask them.

If I like one of them. Yeah. You want to hit that bench for me real quick or no? No, I don't want to hit that bench for me. I don't want to hit that bench for me real quick or no? Yeah. Well, you don't have any weights on it. That's fine, even better.

No, how much? You want me to do reps? What if we made a gym of all fake weights that just for Instagram? I like that. OK. I actually like that one. Right, making everyone look like they're fucking jacked.

I like that one. OK, so put that one down. But wouldn't the people who look like they're really doing work, wouldn't they already be worked out because they were at real gyms? But you don't have to look strong. You just have to be lifting the fake weights, the hollow weight, right? But wouldn't you be looking, if you look like you're weak

and you're lifting them, it doesn't give you any credit. So wouldn't you kind of want to see? No, but you look like you're strong. Like, you can't look weak lifting. Do they have to wear sweatshirts? 700 pounds. You'll notice the muscles are not bulging or whatever. I think you'd be looking at the 700 pounds.

I think you could wear long-sleeved shirts and, you know, sweatpants if you wanted to. Ponchos? Everybody wears ponchos in this gym. Yeah, exactly. Cover yourself only. And then the other one that we had is actually a great idea. I think it's an app that tells you what the percentage of male

to female ratio is at a bar when you're out on the town with your buddies. And you just, like, hit the thing. It tells you what kind of scene it is there. They, like, have pictures that they upload. Well, it depends if it's for heterosexuals or whoever. Anyone can use it. So you just want to see what's the ratio.

If you're in a bar that you can't tell the difference between the males and the females, then you're in a very specific type of bar where you don't want to tell that difference. That's true. You could also market it like that, too. You know, just, like, drop a pen. And what wasn't there?

We had a terrible name for it. It was an awful name. I think it was, like, Prestige. Yeah, I know it was, like, ah, fun. Worldwide. You forgot Worldwide. Yeah, Prestige Worldwide. But we could change the name.

I think it's just ratio would be a good name for it. Yeah. Yeah, ratio works. Sausage party. Ratio works. But why wouldn't you be able to tell the difference between the males and females? What do you mean?

Or women and men in the bar. No, before you go. Oh, before you go. When you're outside. Yeah. Let's just say, like, we're right here. We're outside the part of my take studio. And we're thinking about going, I don't know,

somewhere, like, Lower East Side. How about someone coming into the, no, someone's walking on in the hallway right now. They're thinking about coming in the part of my take studio. And they're like, oh, it's just fucking six dudes. No thanks. So you can check before you even decide to get into a cabin. Yeah.

You know, not a bad idea. But how are you going to know? Well, how are you going to get a reading when who's there? Is that a voluntary reading? Yeah, other users are there. That's big brother. It's a big brother. A community.

NSA. We need the NSA to help us. We could either do NSA work or we could have the community of users that are there. You opt in. Yeah. And then you just put, like, 60%, 40%. Yeah.

If you thought about creating an app where you just opt in and then we could just steal everything from the people. Because no one reads the opt in, right? That is true. Right. So you just, in the opt in, it says we can steal everything from you. Mm-hmm.

Thump something about right there. Yeah, you guys think about a lot of counterfeiting, stealing from people. Yeah, short cuts. Yeah. Big on short cuts. Yeah, you're big on short cuts. Yeah.

So you wanted to steal something from Netflix people. You wanted to steal something from China. From everyone as well. And you want to steal something now from everyone. How about a service where people who are very wealthy contact you just to do their dirty work on the side? Like, henchmen for hire. Yeah.

Feel like henchmen should, like, that's us. Yeah. Essentially. Contract killers. Yeah. Hank just gave us a lot. All right, well, we've got a lot. Hank gave us a lot.

Yeah, you got a lot, too. How about an app where immediately when you say there's some attorney advises you on how many years you will get in jail for each one of these concepts? Yeah, I like that. Yeah, yeah, an app. Three to five. This idea is seven to 10.

This idea is the chair. I actually think that so far our two best ideas are the hollow weights, Titanic 2. I like the hollow weights. I think Titanic 2 is a horrible idea. I think people would buy it. It's not for everybody. You'll be wrong on that one, Mr. Rich Guy.

Honestly, yeah, but if I was extremely wealthy, I probably would not want to get onto a ship that was likely going to kill me either. But no, you'd probably get a lifeboat. Yeah, that's true. Yep. Yeah, that's true. For women and children first.

Yeah. You'd be one of those rich guys. I'm more important than that. Who would put there women and children on that boat knowing that it's going real men? Yeah. Right. They get it.

Not cowards like you. All right, so your Audible book is out, right? It is Audible original, yeah. No book. Yeah, no book. Don't use the B-word. No book. As a guy like us, no book exists.

Yep, so go check it out. And always great to have you in studio. I have fun with you guys all the time. It is fascinating. I go home and it just haunts me for literally about 24 hours. You're going to think like. Yeah, it's kind of like ripping the scab. Well, you know, you just keep looking at that.

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and speak with a sleep expert. OK, we're going to wrap up. We've got Mount Rushmore. I guess the question is, how are we doing as a group? I'm doing great. Yeah, well, let's do a quick poll around the room. Billy, how are you doing? Billy?

I'm actually a little heated. Oh, do tell. I think Jake stole my hot seat. OK, all right. So your fire seat. Your fire seat. Billy, I took a screenshot. 6, 16 PM, the last edit I made on this note.

Oh, wow. Wow, so Billy brought you open. That's when you open the notes. Jake with receipts. Yeah, he just pulled the receipts on you. He just pulled the receipt on you. Nope, just made an edit and went to 807. So Jake, how are you doing?

I'm great. PFT, you're doing well? Yeah, really good. I am as well. Bubba, how are you doing? Great. OK, and then Hank? I'm good.

I mean, I've been better. No, you're good. Whatever. Are you good? All I'll say is I've moved on positive vibes only. Will you be participating? It's up to you. You guys are my boss, whatever you say goes.

I'm a man of my word, like I said. So it's up to you. Whatever you guys want me to do, I'll do. Nothing would make me happier than if you participate in this Mount Rushmore. I actually, the only thing that will make me happier is if Hank is happy. So whatever makes you happy, you should do.

What it makes me happy is making my boss happy. OK, we're in a happy off. I like this. And I'd like to say, lastly, whether or not I, Liam, made my picks or not, you guys throwing them out Rushmore is bullshit in my opinion. But that's my opinion. And I moved on from it.

OK, OK. Cool, sorry. You're happy now. If you're happy, then I'm happy. But I'm only happy when you're happy. No, but big hat, we already said that. The only thing that makes me happy is making you happy. So I think he's not making me happy.

I'm just happy. But I think he is happy because we said that we were happy. But he's got to make me happy to be happy. But I'm not. I'm happy. He said we were happy before Hank said that waiting for us to be happy makes him happy. I'd like to see a smile from Hank for him to make me happy.

There it is. Wow, huge. That was a huge smile. All right, now I'm happy because of you, Hank, which means you're happy because I'm happy. Yep. All right, this sounds great. All right, we're doing the Mount Rushmore of athlete nicknames.

And we didn't plan this, but it is it should be in honor of Jonathan Kominga, who is got drafted by the Warriors and is now being called the Cumbucket by Warriors fans. All right. So that's something. That's what the nicknames that probably won't stick. I, well, it probably would stick. But I think that maybe we should do a separate column

for Chris Berman nicknames. What do you mean? Are any of your nicknames that you're going to choose Chris Berman nicknames? Because no, we're doing athlete nicknames. So you're, you did a different task. No, no, I'm saying like nicknames that Chris Berman has given. I have not prepared that you have.

No, I'm just saying, I would say that we should not be taking like, like John Kitten, Kaboodle, Scott, Supercalifragile, Elastic, XBL, Abrocious. Yeah, no, no, it should be athlete nicknames that everyone knows. Yes. OK. Yes.

All right. Numbers. Numbers. Hank, why don't you start with your number? One. I'll go zero. I'll go double zero. OK.

Billy, Jake, what do you want? 69. No, no, four. Four. Four. OK. Are you guys throwing the order? No.

No. I always pick zero. I always pick zero. Two. What? Oh, perfect. Hank, your decision on the order. Now, that made me happy, Hank.

Did it not make you happy? Didn't tickle you a little bit? If you're happy, then I'm happy. If you guys tried throwing it, it failed. Yeah. Right. So yeah, it makes it great. Yeah.

What do you think? I don't, it's your call. All right, we'll go one, two, three, four, so me, Jillie, Big Cat, and then PFT. OK. This is a tough one. This is going to be, there are so many good nicknames. We're going to leave a lot out for sure.

Now, Hank, is this your pick or is this you and Bubba combined? Just curious. What do you guys want me to do? Why don't you surprise us? I want you to do whatever you want to do, Hank. OK. First pick is Big Poppy. Got it.

Boston Legend, Champion, Reverse the Curse. And it's just a great, I love it when you call me Big Papa. It's like the, you know, that's a song independent of Big Poppy. Just a great name. Barstool Employee. Barstool Employee. Barstool Employee, our co-worker. Go listen to, what is it, Call Me Poppy?

Yeah, Call Me Poppy. I think that's also, like, the reason why that's also such a great nickname is that you can even shorten it and it still works, if you say Poppy. People know who you're talking to. Right. And he like, you know, he is, he's a legend. Yeah.

He fits the name. All right. We are going to go with, may he rest in peace, the Black Mamba. Oh, okay. What are you fucking, ESPN? He gave it to himself, after... All right, I'm going to stick with the Lakers.

I'm actually surprised this lasted all the way to me. I think it's probably the greatest nickname of all time because it just become his, has become his name. It is Magic Johnson. There is no one better than Magic Johnson. Irvin Johnson becoming magic. I mean, it's just synonymous, everything about him. It feels weird when Mike Wilbont says,

me and my friend Irvin. It's like, dude, that's magic. He's magic. Yep. There are a couple of nicknames that just have become what you call the person. I'd say Magic Johnson is one of them. Another one would be Dr. J.

Dr. J. Good one. Dr. J, straight up. Dr. J, no idea how he got the nickname, but it fits, it works. And then my second pick is going to be the big unit. Ooh. Randy Johnson.

Good one. Was he six foot 10, six, 11? Yep, yep. And nothing, that's all it's talking about, it's height. Killed a bird. All right, I, this one is another synonymous name. It's an all time nickname and it is a nickname. It's Tiger Woods.

He's Eldrick Woods. His nickname is Tiger. He was given to him when he was a kid. There's nothing like when he's in his red shirt on a Sunday hunting down his prey, Tiger Woods. Italian or? Uh, I don't think. Yeah, you see, Italian or pervert.

I think just pervert. Okay, just pervert. All right, this is one new game. All right, chili, you're up. We're going to go with Hideki Matsui, Godzilla. Okay. Good one. Also like a porn king.

Yes. How much porn did he have? Like 40,000 DVDs. I think, are you thinking about Matsui or Rabu? That guy, what was, no, you have to, yeah, Matsui. I think Matsui had it. Yeah, Matsui. Yeah.

Matsui was also a Yankee legend. Crazy one. Who I think is unfortunately passed away. I'm going to go with pervert, by the way, from Matsui. Okay. Yankee Matsui. Well, we don't know if he's ever been to Italy. All right, good pick.

Godzilla, Hank. I'm going to keep it within the family, the barcel family, prime time. Yeah, I had it on my list. Yeah. Great pick. Actually, don't you mean coach? Coach prime.

No, coach prime. Coach prime. Okay. And then I will go with Stone Cold. Ooh, okay. I like that. Stone Cold, Steve Austin. I like that.

I'm actually, I have not consulted Jake for this pick, but I'm going to go with the juice. Okay, OJ Simpson. Jaylen Brown. Nice, nice. OJ Simpson, I like it. All right, this is one of my personal favorite nicknames of all time, just because it gives a little love

to anyone who's a little bit on the chunkier side. That would be the round mound of rebound, Charles Barkley. I had that on my list. Round mound of rebound, such a great fucking nickname. Way better nickname than Cirque Charles. Round mound of rebound, we should normalize that when talking about Charles Barkley. Okay.

All right, number three, I'm going to go with The Refrigerator. I had it on my list. William, The Refrigerator, Perry, The Fridge. There were all those great posters back in the day of him just standing next to a refrigerator to be like, look, I'm as big as this thing, a classic nickname.

And then number four, you get so many good ones. Right, you can say this is a pander pick, but I honestly think Blake, The Boat, Bortles. Okay, that is a pander pick. That's the definition of a pander pick. The best of all time. Yeah, that is the definition of a pander pick. At least you prefaced it.

Actually, you know what? The great pick, the pause of odds. Good pick. Thanks, Andy. Appreciate it. All right, my last one, I'm going to go with sweetness. Walter Payton, that's just a great nickname. Another one where it's like,

there's only one sweetness and sweetness. Okay, there's so many good ones that left off. We should go 60. You want to go another round? I'll go 60. You want to go another round? Everyone down for another round. Wait, does that mess up the amount of picks though?

No, yeah, if we do another round, Hank will go three times in a row, then Jilly, then me, then PFT last. And I go two? No, you go one. Because that's only one extra. So just one extra? Yeah, or you want to go a whole other round?

If this were last week, I'd be like, this is crazy because Mount Rushmore's only four people, but I'm positive vibes, let's do it. Okay, let's go a full other round. Yeah, let's go a full other round. Here we go, let's go. So we're going all the way, Hank, all the way back around, all the way back around.

All right, we are going to go with another Laker. Shaq. Shaq. Okay. Which nickname are you going to take? Shaq. Shaquille O'Neal's name. Shaq.

I like to say Shaquille O'Neal though, that makes people very upset. The thought crossed my mind to just do four variations of Shaq's nickname, like the big Aristotle. Yeah, the big cactus. The big cactus. The Shaqtix. The big Shamrock.

Superman, yeah. Superman. Little Weenie. But I did not do that. So how many do I have right now? You have two. Okay, white chocolate. Mm, yeah.

And the truth. Okay, Paul Pierce, good nickname. Yeah, very good. You guys have another pick. We're doing one extra round. So we're going to end with Hank. You have two at the end. I've made five picks already.

No, you've made four. No, I've made five. Oh yeah, okay. So you're going to do one at the end. You're right. Sorry. We got lost in the snake again. Yup, yup.

Johnny football. Good fucking, that's on my list. Great nickname. Good pick. I don't know. This is a great draft. Having a football nickname is kind of lame. Okay.

Especially in a playing place. I'll go with... Oh shit. Actually, my personal... My bad. I'll go with my personal favorite nickname that he refuses to take. Although I think he's taking it now

with the Slim Reaper, Kevin Durant. That's just a fucking great fucking nickname. In fact, he tried to force the servant on us when he has the Slim Reaper. And the Durantula. And the Durantula. This where we could all be like, that's not a real nickname if he doesn't acknowledge it.

But you know what big hat, that's a good pick. No, he has acknowledged it. But he doesn't use it. He said he's gonna start going as a Slim Reaper. Got it. He said it. Yeah, you're right. Good pick, good pick.

Okay, good, I'm happy you're happy, thanks. All right, so you almost made me not happy there. I know, I know. Which would make you not happy. Right, that's the last thing I wanna do. Right, just so you know, like if we had a scale here, you just dipped me all the way to two

on the happiness scale. No, but I said if it was... And that would have made you very unhappy, which would have then in turn made me even more unhappy. So we avoided all of that. Are we all happy before we proceed? Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes, then I'm yes.

Good. So I have two? Two. Okay, in that case, I'm gonna go with, I'll go with the Big Hurt. Yeah, I had it, I had it, I had it. The Big Hurt, great nickname, plus he's out there fucking everybody's wife at the gym in those commercials.

Yep. That's pretty cool. Good one. Can you explain these commercials? Cause I feel like you've made a few references in the past few days and I've never seen, I don't know what you're talking about. It's a testosterone pills.

Yeah, it's to keep you in great shape and your wife's not gonna be complaining about it either. Yeah. You know. Sorry, yeah, I just wanted to like, yeah, I just wanted to maybe get some clarification. I don't want to Frank Thomas's commercial, but I feel like when people see Frank Thomas,

you're addicted to sex stuff. When women see Frank Thomas, they bonk themselves cause he's on those pills. Yes. All right, so my last one, I'm gonna go with, this is another big time panda pick. Oh geez. Okay, fine, I won't panda.

I'll do it. No, no, I don't panda. Just do it, panda. I'm not going to. I will not. Panda. So instead, I'm gonna go with Doug Martin, the muscle hamster.

Oh, good one. And that was another nickname that he tried. What was your panda? He tried to get, I was gonna go with Andres Galaraga, big cat. Yeah, okay. All right, I'm gonna go little NASCAR, maybe the greatest nickname of all time,

the Intimidator, the Intimidator, Dale Earnhardt Sr. I mean, what are you gonna do when the Intimidator comes for you? Yeah, Richard Petty, the king. That's a pretty good one too. That's pretty good, but King James. No, but it's King Petty first.

Yeah, yeah. This lead. It is really hard though in terms of nicknames. Like I was thinking like, you know, some guys have nicknames that just, their real name, like LeBron is an example, or Michael Jordan, like Air Jordan, King James, but really LeBron and MJ are way bigger than that.

I always like it when people refer to MJ as his airness. Yeah, that's the best. But you know what I mean? Their names are way supersede their nicknames. Yep. I actually think that Michael Jordan's name is just Jordan. Yeah. He's gotten as close to what Brazilian soccer players do,

just shortening their name to one thing as will ever happen in America. All right, go ahead. We're gonna wrap up with Bob. Well, did you want to jump to the round? Yes, do it. Do you want to? I got so many nicknames, but no, we don't have to.

All right, we have. How many nicknames? To wrap up with Broadway, Joe Neymans. Oh, good one. Okay. Hank, this will be the end, and then we'll do honorable mentions which have a lot of great nicknames as well.

I will end with the answer. Great nickname. I had it on my list. You said that every, for every person. I have a very long list. Yeah, you're right, that's my bad. I shouldn't have even said that. Okay, all right.

I thought your pander picked by the way, which I thought about, but I was like, I can't do it. Playoff Damien. Yep, but that's really just an inside joke here. All right, things that got left off. The great one, Wayne Gretzky. I mean, you can't get better than the great one.

Babe Ruth. So would you say Sultan of Swat or the great Bambino? I think the great Bambino. I go with great Bambino, yeah. Also the Colossus of Clout. That's a scene where they're naming him. Yep, yes. And Smalls doesn't know who this is the best.

How about Fred McGriff, the crime dog? Crime dog's a good one. Awesome one. Big Ben. Big Ben, yeah. El Duque. He might be Italian, actually. He might be one of Hernandez.

So. Yeah, no, he's Italian. Yeah, he's Italian. Big Sexy. Bartolo Colombo. Yes, Big Sexy. The Hawk. Andre Dawson.

Yep. Also Big Game James. James Shields. Uh-huh. Meast. Sean Taylor. Half Man, Half Beast. Yep, playoff.

Who's Sheriff? Oh, you know which one that would, oh, the Sheriff. Peyton Manning. You know which one that we totally missed that should have been on there? The boss. Jerome Dennis.

I mean, that's a fuckin' awesome nickname. What about, any colors are a bus color. That was the coolest part. Bill Parcells, the big tuna. The big tuna. Best in the office. Or, whoa.

Wow. What? Did you really? You guys, I said it, I said it, I said it, I said it. Anyway, anyway. I was gonna say a different nickname for Bill Parcells, but we're not gonna say it. You were gonna say C word, D word.

Yeah, no, not gonna say it. This one actually isn't well-known, but I think it's sick. The Juggernaut, Peyton Hillis. Oh, yeah. No one, I would have said that first, but it turns out that isn't well-known. Beast Road, Marshawn Lynch.

The Iron Horse, Lou Gehrig. That's a great fuckin' nickname. The Yankee Clipper, I think, is a great nickname, but this pinch-triped in. What are you laughing about? I think he's just, Jake calling himself out. He had the best in the office.

Yeah, that was very funny. What about Larry Bird, the hick from French Lick? Great nickname. What about fuckin' Hakim the Dream-Elise one? A great nickname. The Big Ticket. I didn't wanna do, I was thinking about just doing all Boston, I didn't wanna do that.

Big Country. Big Country, Bryant Reeves. I was just saying Kyle Rudolph, but yeah, also Bryant Reeves. Bryant Reeves as well. You know what, I think it was Warriors fans that gave Corey McGuetti the nickname, Corey Bad porn McGuetti,

because they said not all scoring is good scoring to watch. Ah, I like that one. Oh, I realized today, I did not know this until I looked it up, but Judevion Clowney has a nickname, you know what it is? It's Doodoo. Doodoo? Doodoo Clowney, because he crapped in the pool one time

when he was a kid, and everyone called him Doodoo after that. I feel like maybe we need to bring that back. That's like Poopy Davenport. Najae Davenport, memory crapped in his girlfriend's laundry hamper. In the hamper, yeah. I don't know if anyone called him Poopy Davenport, except, actually people called Poopy Davenport.

Deuce McAllister pooped in a car one time. That feels a little too on the nose. Yeah, well, I mean, Doodoo Clowney taking the brown to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Let's see, what else? Any others that we can think of? There's another big cat, Tony Sanna, US soccer legend.

Yep. The red mamba. Oh, dude, the flying tomato. That's a great fucking nickname, Sean White. That's a great nickname. There's a guy, he's an old baseball player. His name was actually Johnny Dickshot, but he went by, his nickname was Ugly Johnny Dickshot.

I like that. I feel like that's adding insult to injury. That's a good one. That's a really good one. You wanna, I did look up some Chris Berman nicknames. I did not include, but I just, I looked at them and I laughed. Obviously, Mike, you're in good hands with All-Stott. Yep.

Is a great one. John Kitton Kamboodle is my favorite. That's also a good one. There was Miguel, Taha, do they come? Taha, do they fall? That's fucking good. That's really good. Yeah.

There is Jake Daylight Cum and you got a Deloam. Yep. That might actually be my favorite now that I'm thinking about it. Matt Stump the Shob. Yep. Calvin Benjamin Netanyahu. Yep.

Yep. That one. Very good. All right. I think that was a great Mount Rushmore, guys. Does everyone feel good about this? Do you feel good about it? I feel great about it.

I feel amazing about it. Are you sure? Are you? Oh, Butterbean as well, Butterbean. Great nickname. Iron Mike. Because that's a got Iron Mike Tyson shit. Damn.

That's a fucking great nickname. I mean, boxing is filled with him. Yeah. It is true. Sugar Shane. Mahamino Ali, I think is just the goat. Yeah, he's the greatest of all time. Yeah.

Yeah. You feel good. Do you? I feel great. I feel great, then. OK. I think we all feel great. We all feel good about this Mount Rushmore.

Tom, terrific. Six deep. We went six deep. Wasn't Julian Edelman once? Wasn't he Minitron? No, Flying Squirrel. Oh, Megatron is a great nickname. We left off the Honey Badger.

Yep. The Honey Badger. Damn it. Danny Ricardo. Yeah. Damn it. Honey Badger was a big miss. Shit.

Greg Kittle. Yeah. Great nickname. I almost want to replace. Greg also great nickname. Gronk, technically. Has Russell Wilson given himself a nickname? I think he tried.

Rusticulous. Yeah. Rustangerous. The past. He probably, he's got some things trademarked, I'm sure. And he tried to sell more. On Google, it's the professor. The professor.

The professor, Kyle Hendricks. Mad Dog, Greg Maddox. Was also, wasn't Maddox also the professor for a little bit? Yes. Also, the professor. Yes. The professor. Escalade, another good one.

Who is just the kid? Griffey. Yes. Griffey Jr. Yeah. Great nickname. So many good nicknames. Ah, man.

And we left off a lot, so people are going to get mad at us. But what are you going to do? That's just what you've got to live with. It's part of the game. We could have just done all hockey nicknames. Just added an ER. Caner. Or an I sometimes.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. You have a flow chart. Yeah. If your name ends in a vowel, you put an R on it. If your name ends in a consonant, you just put a Y at the end. Yes.

Yes. So we should do that sometime with the spin chicklets, guys. All right, Billy, any recap? Anything that we missed? The study that I talked about earlier was paid for by Impossible Burger, PFT. And so they paid for their own study that fucked them a self over.

Yeah, exactly. Damn. So oh, by the way, a little follow up on the fastest man currently, the Italian guy, LeMont. Basically, of all the sprinters to break nine seconds eight, nine out of the 10 have tested positive or been accused of using steroids, except you've seen Bolt. So lightning Bolt.

He's the greatest of all time. LeMont. Italian. Oh, Bong Rips Phelps. That's a good nickname. People call him that. Is that it? Snake Plumber.

Ron Wrestling Nickname's area. Speaking of bombs. Oh, not Jake Snake Plumber, but Jake the Snake Actual. Yeah, Damien. I don't know how that is. Scared me, a wrestler. You had a snake in a bag. Scared the fuck out of me.

Ron Laramie Tunsel. Yeah. Yes. I just dropped that one. I just invented that one right now. All right, Billy, so is that it? Yep. Oh, Bubba.

Jared Goff's Europe. Oh. We put you to sleep. No, that was just that was your guys. You guys wrote that. OK, Sean Timothy McVeigh. Put this on me. Don't try to flip this on me.

No, I just want you to be happy. Are you? Yeah. I feel like that was a good Mount Rushmore. We're back, boys. Casey Anthony Sherman. Yes, yep. Now we're just doing just four more weeks.

Don't worry. All right, numbers. Also, heads up. Jake reminded me of this today. Only three preseason games this year. Yo, that's nice. Yeah, so now my head's all fucked up. Which one do we say, like, remember,

this week is the dress rehearsal? I think they'll probably do two. Week two is going to be the dress rehearsal? OK, yeah. So that's just a PSA, because I was totally blindsided. That did fuck. That fucks me up, too. All right, numbers.

79. 69. 71 is not eligible. 72. Either is two. Eight. 71, 66. 60.

And two near you. There's only, like, 95 in there. 34. Big poppy. Elephants look at humans like humans look at puppies. Sweetest. Love you guys. OK, take on me.

Take me on. I'll be gone in a day or two. Needless to say, I'm hard to set in. But I'll be still a little way. Slowly learning that life is OK. Stay up to me. It's no better to be safe than sorry. Take on me.

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