Pardon My Take - Jake Arrieta, Mt Rushmore Of Training Camp Cliches Plus 2 Show Announcements For The Future

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Football is back again. We talk some story lines from the last week plus Breaking News on a show announcement and our new Pardon My Cheesesteak brand. (00:02:51-00:27:03) Mt Rushmore of training camp ...cliches. (00:27:04-00:47:09) Who's back of the week including celebrities flying PJ's and Tony Pizza. (00:48:21-01:09:53) Jake Arrieta joins the show to talk about MLB trade deadline, where Soto will end up, Owners not ponying up, and a very dumb baseball idea. (01:10:50-01:49:53) We finish with a show announcement for the future. (01:51:33-02:05:07)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime members can listen, add free on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, we have our good friend Jake Arietta to get us hyped for baseball trade deadline, which is coming up on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:00:19 The hot stove. The hot, no, the hot stove's December. What's the, what's the trade deadline? It's just always hot stove. It's always a hot stove. It's the hot stove. Buyers or sellers. They love, baseball writers love talking about that.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Well, you know, back in the day, like Abner Doubleday just used to stand by a stove and talk about trades. Well, what it was was the old water cooler. That's what the hot stove was. Hot stove. People would gather around the stove for warmth. Yeah, so we got that.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We have Mount Rushmore of training camp cliches because we are balls deep in training camp right now. We have two show announcements, two big show announcements. So make sure that you tune in. ADBLs want to hear both of them. And who's back of the week? And it's brought to you by our friends at Coors Light. Summer is full of official events like weddings,
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Starting point is 00:02:57 and then we'll take it higher. Welcome to Part of My Take, presented by CoorsLight, the greatest beer ever created. Today is Monday, August 1st. And I wanted to quote one of the world's greatest philosophers when I say, man, I love football. The boys got going yesterday and it's all love. First day of pads, just pushing each other to be great.
Starting point is 00:03:24 That is all. And that is from our good friend Josh Allen after a little skirmish and Buffalo. We are, that tweet hyped me up so much. I was like, yes, training camp, football, August, it's hot. Listen, breaking news, football is fucking back because the Hall of Fame game is on Thursday.
Starting point is 00:03:44 This is our first week. I have a pep in my step. I'm bright-eyed, I'm bushy-tailed. We just talked about our hard knocks plans. We're going to be on grit week next week and we're going to have to figure out where to watch hard knocks. This is it.
Starting point is 00:03:56 So I'm going to be so disappointed at about like 10 p.m. Thursday night once I remember, oh yeah, the Hall of Fame game stinks. But I'm so excited this week. I'm already talking myself into the storylines. I'm building up like, this is a rivalry game. The Jaguars, the Raiders, Josh McDaniels.
Starting point is 00:04:11 A lot of history between those two franchises. Josh McDaniels and Doug Peterson, Super Bowl rematch. They've got that bad blood. Damn. I actually, we've talked about this. When you get to this time of the year, you start daydreaming about things. I can't remember what I was listening to,
Starting point is 00:04:25 but I was like, I think I might sell myself on the Jaguars this year, like take their win total over just by Urban Meyer not being there. Like I think it was because I read a quote was like, someone was like, yeah, it's a lot different. Yeah. Josh Allen actually said it.
Starting point is 00:04:39 The other Josh Allen was like, yeah, it's a lot more professional. It's a lot different. I think the Jaguars are going to get a bounce just by not having that fucking asshole around finger of the year. Mm-hmm. And what else do you win?
Starting point is 00:04:49 He won, was it? B for the year. B for the year. Urban Meyer versus accountability. Accountability. Yeah. Two-time taking award winner is out. And yeah, I think I'm going to buy the Jaguars.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I'm calling my shot right now. Doug Peterson is going to look sick in the Jaguars visor. Yes. That is a visor town. I think like if you could pick one place for a visor coach to go, he's going to fit right in in Jacksonville.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yes. Josh McDaniels is going to look a little bit weird, I think, in the Raiders colors. We'll get used to it after a while, but Doug Peterson, like a duck in water down in Northern Florida. Yes. Hell yes.
Starting point is 00:05:20 And we're going to do the Mount Rushmore of training camp cliches, storyline cliches in a minute here, which is going to be great because it gets you even more pumped up for football. Mm-hmm. Oh. Breaking moves.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Is this one of the big show announcements? This is one of the big shows. The Russell Dye. This is the big show announcement. Oh, shit. Goddammit, Hank. This is what I was alluding to on Friday. Now, Russ and Peaceville,
Starting point is 00:05:42 Russell's very severed doing it. By the way, we should just say. Russ and Peaceville, Russell, legend. He's one of those rare cases where it's like, when people say, as good as he was as a player, 11 championships, he was a better human. And you're like, yeah, actually, that's understated. He might be the most Mount Rushmore-able
Starting point is 00:05:58 professional basketball player of all time, like on various Mount Rushmores. Yeah. As far as what he did, obviously, for the Celtics, he's maybe the most clutch postseason player of all time. He was 10 and 0 in elimination games in the playoffs. Crazy. I'll read that.
Starting point is 00:06:14 This is just the first sentence. Obviously, it went into a long list of his accomplishments. We have the real breaking news in a minute, yeah. But yeah, it was with a very heavy heart. We would like to pass along to all of Bill's friends, fans and followers. And then it said, Bill Russell, the most prolific winner in American sports history.
Starting point is 00:06:28 How incredible. And that's a fact. It's not really debatable, either. Are we in the trustry to say something real quick? I don't know. A couple things. One is, shout out to us as a podcast, because we did have the Takies last week,
Starting point is 00:06:39 and we were thinking about who we should give the Tommy LaSorta still alive person of the year in Memoriam of John Madden. And Bill Russell's name came up and we were like, you know what? No. Because no, that would be bad if he died. And he did.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And he's a legendary human. And we'd rather have the queen die. Yes. I think we all would. Yeah, we put the whammy on the queen. Yeah. Why couldn't it have been the queen? It should have been her.
Starting point is 00:07:09 It was the first black coach in NBA history. Yes. It wasn't Emao Doka. No, no. That's Jay Williams probably was like, fuck, I'm going to trend again. And he also had 40 rebounds in an NBA finals game, which is insane.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Yes. The other trustry thing I wanted to just point out that I was, I didn't tweet because I'm a respectful human, but the timing of Dana Beers becoming Dana Vodka Waters and Bill Russell passing away, it was almost minutes after. So I know that Bill Russell was a huge Dana Beers fan. And you have to think that that had something to do with it.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm sure he was very disappointed. It broke his heart. Yes. Yes. The whole world was upset about Dana Beers becoming, what a fucking pussy that guy is. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Unbelievable. We should have to change all his names. Just be like, oh yeah, Dana Vodka Soda's now. Get out of here. That's going to make a difference. Yeah. I was reading a list of Bill Russell's accomplishments earlier today.
Starting point is 00:07:59 And they were all just unreal, including winning the presidential Medal of Freedom and all that stuff. And then they also tapped on the list. They also hosted an episode of Saturday Night Live in 1979. And you might think that that's kind of out of place considering the rest of the things on this list. SNL was fucking funny in 1979. That is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:08:17 But I mean, yeah, he's a legendary human, legendary basketball player, but legendary human first. Like I said, it's the rare case when everyone does the lip service of like, as good of a player, he's a better person. Bill Russell, that is probably like 100 times X. Like what he did for the world, for black people, for everyone.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Like it's incredible. Retire's number. Yeah. All across the league. Oh, I like that. He's got the MVP trophy, right? Yeah. So yeah, I agree.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Retire's number. Yes. Good call, Hank. But what I was saying before that, what I was alluding to on Friday. We just hijacked our own announcement. But listen, that's perspective. That's what Bill Russell didn't like.
Starting point is 00:08:56 Bill Russell didn't sign autographs. You know why? Because he thought athletes shouldn't be looked up to as heroes. He thought the real heroes are the people out there like the teachers, the firefighters, and the podcasters. And one last thing about Bill Russell. You can tell like what a person means to everyone when, like, you know, people die all the time.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But the fact that like everyone who has ever meant anything to basketball or civil rights had something to say almost instantly tells you what type of person it was. Like, you know, Jordan and Barkley, all these people just come in like instantly. It's like, oh yeah. He meant that much to that many people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I don't think he's an actually guy either. I don't think anybody has had to take like, actually, Bill Russell. No. It just suddenly. Yeah, he'll go on there and be like, well, he played against Bob Cousy. So.
Starting point is 00:09:44 He played with Bob Cousy. Yeah, played with Bob. How good could he be? Okay. RIP Bill Russell. Moment of silence. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Live a great life. 88 is a great life. Yeah. We're going to do it. But yeah, anyway, the what I was alluding to on Friday, the big announcement, something we've been working on a long time behind the scenes, very excited about it. It's big, you know, opportunity for us,
Starting point is 00:10:08 big opportunity for the AWLs. We're come, we're, we're, what are we? We're, we're. Seven years old. We're food. We're part of my cheesesteak. What? Huh?
Starting point is 00:10:18 And you, yeah. What is that? What is that? What is part of my cheesesteak? Oh yeah. I'll explain it to you. Let me explain it to you. Part of my cheesesteak.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That doesn't even make sense. In a World Cup only restaurant brand bringing you craveable cheesesteaks and loaded fries when we say that we tested everything, we tested everything, we perfected it. We made it exactly what we think our fans want. You get cheesesteaks. You can get Buffalo chicken, cheese steaks, you can get fries, loaded fries, brownie bites.
Starting point is 00:10:45 Chipotle cheese steaks. And it's everywhere 200 locations it is one plus. Plus. Coming. It goes kitchen. So I, I just looked at the list. Shout out, yes, Honolulu. You can get part of my cheesesteak.
Starting point is 00:11:00 It's everywhere, literally everywhere across the country. If you have a phone, you have access to a part of my cheesesteak. That's what we're getting. And we did actually taste test it and gave notes on that we were like, you know what, this could be tastier. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:13 And they said, okay, we'll make it tastier. Yes, and so go to partofmycheesesteak.com to learn more and you can order on DoorDash, Uber Eats, Postmates, or Grubhub. And here's the big thing. This does actually just go to us. So like, congratulations. We sold out, guys.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Yes, yes. Hey, big cat. Congratulations. Yes, this is the Wayne's World moment where we're doing the ads, but like, you know, if you like us and you want to support us, get part of my cheesesteaks. We do think they are very, very good.
Starting point is 00:11:42 It's good food and it's perfect for football season. Simple menu. But it's, again, it's like, when you eat it, when you take a bite of it, just know it's cha-ching for us, which is you love us, right? The cheesesteaks are legitimately delicious. They're awesome.
Starting point is 00:11:56 We've been eating them nonstop for the past couple of months. We've had a ton of people that tag us on Twitter being like, yo, somebody's ripping you guys off. We haven't been able to talk about it yet, but I have had several friends. Who's the weirdest person? That told me that I was getting ripped off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 My aunt's ex-boyfriend. Okay. Oh, Buddha Ben. Nice. Yeah. I had Rasello hit me up. What? I was like, dude, you ordered some late night cheesesteaks?
Starting point is 00:12:19 Or maybe it's just like, maybe there was like a targeted ad just because he's so obsessed with us and then they were feeding him part of my cheesesteak ads. Maybe he just throws out the bread, which you can do and just eat the steak if you want just gains. So a fun fact about these cheesesteaks
Starting point is 00:12:34 is Billy hand kills every cow that goes into the part of my cheesesteaks. He strangles them to death with his bare hands. So you're getting certified Billy-treated meat. It's beautiful. It's like kosher, but a little different. Yeah, it's brochure. But nothing like it.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, we're very excited for it. We really do think these are great. It's great food, affordable. It's not, we're not gonna jack up the price on everyone. Maybe we should though. It's football food.
Starting point is 00:12:59 We should do like, we should at some point sell like the gold cheesesteaks where they put like a little flake of gold in it. We sell it for like $7,000. Cause then we can have like all the influencers try it. Then what we should do is we should jack up the prices after like a month. And then everyone's like, well, look at,
Starting point is 00:13:16 look at what's happening to these cheesesteaks. They must be delicious. Yeah. Everybody is, they're in such high demand. You have to pay $40 for one. It's crazy. No, but cheesesteaks are one of my favorite foods in the entire world.
Starting point is 00:13:25 If you listen to us, you know that we all love cheesesteaks, especially Jake. He absolutely can't get enough of the stuff. But they're very, very good. We hope you guys like them. And if you don't like them, who should they blame? Just don't say anything. Who should they blame?
Starting point is 00:13:38 No, just don't, you know what? It's the old, it's the old fashioned. If you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything. All right, so just, just keep it to yourself. But yeah, it has six inch, 12 inch, classic cheesesteak, chipotle cheesesteak, buffalo chicken cheesesteak, loaded fries, dessert brownie bites. It's simple.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So that we did this on purpose. They have initially came to us and it was like this long menu. And we're like, no, we know what our fans want. They want, let's run the power sweep and just run it until they can stop it. It's, we're gonna do four things and we're gonna fucking crush it
Starting point is 00:14:11 and go to part of my cheesesteak again.com or you can order on Door Dash, Uber Eats, Postmates, Grubhub, everywhere. 200 plus locations. We had some for dinner tonight. And they're so good. Yes, yes, and we're pot and none of us are using the bathroom right now.
Starting point is 00:14:26 So there you go. Perfect tested. Anything else Hank? You'll hear about it some more. We made some funny videos. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of like YouTube advertisements videos. If you're watching the YouTube right now,
Starting point is 00:14:37 we'll play, we'll play one of the commercials. We'll play one of the commercials. I will retweet people who order it and say nice things about us. I will always retweet those compliments. Billy, you will retweet them. Billy, I want you on retweet duty. I will.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I want your fee to just be retweets of these. I'll smash them. Okay. All right, is that, that's it for right now? That's it. Part of my cheesesteak, find out more, find out your location, order them, and thank you. Yes, thank you to all of our fans.
Starting point is 00:15:03 We love you. I mean, you just got, you can't be like, oh shit, they sold out. You just literally got your seventh takey for AWL. Yeah, I mean, that was not the time. You don't think that we planned that? Let's be honest. Did you guys really expect us to not sell out ever?
Starting point is 00:15:18 But we just gave you the treat. Now you gotta pay it back. Mm-hmm. Okay. Second announcement's gonna come after Jay Carrietta. So tune in for that. That's a show announcement. Before we do the Mount Rushmore,
Starting point is 00:15:30 I wanted to do a quick, just, I have some training camp story lines. These are the mind blowing fact that's been on my mind. Oh. Hold on, let me pull it up though. Sorry, I didn't know if one of you guys was gonna do it. Here, let me do it. I think I know what it is.
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Starting point is 00:16:43 maybe later in the week, but I have been, I've been giving a lot of thought into becoming a watch guy, but I don't know where to start. You should. It's, it- You have to start now. It's a good accessory.
Starting point is 00:16:51 No, I'm saying, but like, you have to, yeah, it's like too expensive and I just, I'm probably gonna try and get a movement now. There we go. Well, kank, you could, you could go to movement right now and you could use our code and you could get 15% off. I'm gonna have to get a couple. What's the code?
Starting point is 00:17:03 P-M-T? Pardon. Pardon. Pardon is the code. Okay. You wanna do your woe? Yeah. P-M-T, do you wanna try and go at the same time?
Starting point is 00:17:13 Yeah, let's say it together, ready? Is it a person? Involves a person? One person? It involves a fictional person. Okay, then now it's different. Okay, are we two woes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 We get a woe off. Max Holm, his name is John. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. More of a pervert. It's John Maxwell. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Yeah, Maxwell's a total pervert. Jack Holm. Yeah. Yeah. Jack Holm. Yeah. Jack Holm, that's crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:38 No, he's, he was looking extra pervy this weekend. I saw a couple screen grabs, people were like, was he playing in like some fake tournament? Did he win? Of course he was, because it was a fake tournament. Finale went back to back. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:48 Oh, he went back to back? Yeah, if you can't, if you can't beat Finale, come on, Max. For like two bogeys in two weekends. In two weekends total? In the past two weekends. No, Fino, he's dialed in. Oh, he's dialed in.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Okay, he's playing the best golf of his career. So remind us to bet on Finale in the next majors, what you're saying. Yeah. He's hot. Okay, what was your woe? My woe is on today. That's right, today, that would be July 31st,
Starting point is 00:18:11 as we're taping it. This is the day that George Jetson was born on. Whoa. In the TV show, The Jetsons. Whoa. Whoa. That is woe. And if you watch The Jetsons,
Starting point is 00:18:21 we're like journeying throughout our space. Future. Coquering other solar. We have the exact same problems. We're dealing with the exact same shit that The Jetsons were dealing with when it came out in like 1970 or whatever. Damn.
Starting point is 00:18:33 That is a woe. Nothing's changed, but woe, George Jetson. That is a big time. Welcome to IRF. Fuck. Do you want to hear another woe? Yeah, sure. Let's just go woes.
Starting point is 00:18:41 Jetsons and Flintstones fan theory. Your brain is full of woes. It is. I just searched for woes. You walk around just going, whoa. I'm pretty sure they did some crossover episodes, too. Yeah, there's a theory that the Flintstones live in a post-apocalyptic, prehistoric land on Earth
Starting point is 00:18:58 while the Jetsons live in the sky. So there's been way too much time on Reddit. Whoa. Yeah. I actually like that a lot. Yeah, that's a good one. That's nuts, right? Yeah, that is a nuts one.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Not to be horny, but Jane Jetson, she get it. Put on the list. OK. She was a fox. All right, so I wanted to run down. You kidding me? Before we do our Mount Rushmore, I wanted to just rapid fire go through some actual training
Starting point is 00:19:21 camp storylines that are going on right now and get just, let's just go quick, hot takes. First up, Kyler Murray. It got taken out of his contract. He doesn't need to study. Huge win for him. I think that's even worse now. Oh, so much worse.
Starting point is 00:19:35 I think it's worse because it's like, OK, this was such a colossal fuckup and it's so embarrassing that we're going to coddle you by taking that out. So now Kyler, Kyler's freed. Yes. Kyler, he can do whatever he wants right now. Yes, yes. He's completely freed.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Debo Samuel got an extension. DK got an extension. DK got paid. It feels like everyone's getting their extensions, which is, you know. Well, the Debo extension, per rap sheet, he had an all-time tweet when he announced it. He said, sources, the 49ers and star weapon,
Starting point is 00:20:03 Debo Samuel, not wide receiver weapon, Debo Samuel, are in agreement on a massive contract extension, keeping him in San Francisco for the foreseeable future. The drama is over. The bridge is rebuilt. The bridge is rebuilt, guys. Now, was he a hold-in? He was a hold-in.
Starting point is 00:20:17 Yeah, he was holding in. Yes, so there's no drama. That's my favorite part about these new hold-outs that are actually hold-ins where the guy shows up. He just doesn't practice. Yeah, he's just not happy. So hold in. He's there.
Starting point is 00:20:27 He's just not going to practice until you give him a new contract. I miss the days of a true hold-out. I do, too. I'm not showing up. Brett Favre not showing up to the last day of training camp. I miss the old, like, TO hold-outs. The ones that were, like, really intense,
Starting point is 00:20:39 but had, like, the media staked out outside their house. Edwarder on the road reporting from some guy's driveway. That's the kind of hold-out that I want to see. These kids these days are too cut. They're soft. They don't know how to execute a proper hold-out. You're absolutely right. Who is the other guy?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Who is the guy who was, like, on Brett Favre's watch? It was, I mean, Edwarder. No, I know it was, but it was the other guy. Edwarder was the best because they'd sent him out to, like, the sticks of Mississippi, and he'd just be standing at the end of a dirt road for, like, seven days at a time, and he'd just be standing out there getting bit by mosquitoes,
Starting point is 00:21:09 and his face would start to turn red, and he would sweat in the sun. And by the end of it, his entire body was just sunburnt. But it was the lawyer guy, too. Who was it? What was the lawyer guy on ESPN? Cossack? Maybe?
Starting point is 00:21:22 No. I don't know. I just remember. Park. Well, Eddie W being in charge of that. There was another guy who was on, like, he was, like, best friends with Bus Cook, and he was always there, too.
Starting point is 00:21:31 This is going to fucking drive me insane. Jake, you're going to have to try to find it. Ryan Smith? No, no, no, no. He's the legal analyst. No. I'm talking, like, we're talking 15 years ago. Way back in the day.
Starting point is 00:21:43 Come on. John Barr? No. Fuck. My adjustment. I think there was another guy. You're just an adventure lawyer. Is this, like, here in Lothian, Las Vegas?
Starting point is 00:21:52 No, there was another guy. They definitely had a legal analyst. Yeah. And his name is a s- There's so many people yelling at their- His name is escaping me now, and it's going to fucking drive me. Roger Cossack was a legal analyst, but that's not. Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:22:05 It might have been Roger. Yeah, yeah, it might have been him. That name sounds familiar. Yeah, this guy. Yeah. He was always on the air when something was happening. I think he was there, too, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:14 OK. All right, so here's some quick other stories. Two or three were a perfect spiral. 65 yards in the air. Air yards. Huge to Tyreek. So that basically the dolphins are fixed. That was all they needed was to tweet one of those.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And then right after practice, all the guys on the team were like, man, this office is going to be fun. Yeah. And I agree. I agree. I think it's going to be fun either way. Yeah. Baker is struggling.
Starting point is 00:22:37 But that's OK. That's fine. Sam Darnold is currently winning the battle, even though I think it's Baker's job. The Steelers, I don't know what's going on, because Mitch has the job. But then there was a report that Mason Rudolph might be winning the job.
Starting point is 00:22:54 They're just trying to light a fire under Mitch on that one. Yeah. And then Kenny's there, too. So I don't know what's going on, but I just know that Mike Tomlin will somehow find a way to get the Steelers to 10 wins. It's going to be Mitch. I think it's going to be Mitch this year.
Starting point is 00:23:06 Kenny Pickett waiting in the wings. Jerry Jones had a great Jerry Jones. Come back play of the year, Mr. Biskie. Ooh, I like that. No, James. Yeah, it's James. For sure, James. Joe Burrow might be, could he be qualifying for it?
Starting point is 00:23:20 He had appendix out. Appendectomy. He should. Yeah, no, he should qualify. He should, but I don't think he will. He went back to back. Didn't he win it last year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yes, I think so. He went back to back. I'm rooting for that. I'm going to bet that. I mean, dude, he got his appendix out. Probably not even offered. Yeah, his appendix out. I don't think that works.
Starting point is 00:23:38 All right, so what we got to do is we got to offer it, and then we got to make a huge deal about the appendix to a whole report about how he almost died. People die. Yeah, people do die. No, it's actually like, so last year he tore his ACL. That's a tough injury to come back from, but actually having your body explode on you.
Starting point is 00:23:54 That's way worse. Yeah, people do die. Go ahead. Well, fact, you can't go to Antarctica if you have your appendix. I don't think you can go up in like a space station either, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:06 That's just that. Without that can't be true. No, no, no, because they don't have enough medical technology down there. So if it starts to rupture, you're going to die. Yeah. Without surgery or antibiotics, more than 50% of people with the appendix appendicitis die.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Holy shit. 50% kill rate. It was a big killer back in the day. Joe Burrow just stared death in the eyes and said, you better bring your A-game, motherfucker. 50%, again, that's without any doctors or anything. But 50%, that's crazy. Do we all still have our appendixes intact here?
Starting point is 00:24:39 As far as I know. I've got mine. Yeah. Yeah. We probably shouldn't go on Grit Week with our appendixes. Should we get them out so we get some more? Yeah, we do have that big hike coming up. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:49 It's true, Everest equivalent. All right, Jerry Jones decided to, I love when Jerry Jones inserts himself in any way, but he basically was, that's you, Bonk. He basically came out and was like, yeah, Zeke has to be our feature back. So he's basically playing coach, which, again, that's what Jerry Jones is there to do.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Yeah, I love it when Jerry Jones does that. Mike McCarthy just watches Jerry Jones' latest press conference. He's like, well, I have to redo my entire game plan right now because the real coach stepped in. Right. Jerry Jones is basically like, he bought a very expensive boat and then he's, but he lives in like a place
Starting point is 00:25:26 that's nowhere near water. He's like, I got to find a way to use this. He's working remotely. He spent so much money on Zeke. And he's like, we have to use him to get my money's worth, even if it's not the best option. Yeah, you do. What do you think Jerry Jones would do if Ezekiel Elliott was
Starting point is 00:25:41 on the bench? And whoever, Pollard would probably be starting over him, right? Yeah. If Pollard gets a line, share the touches, he scores 15 touchdowns. Jerry Jones is still going to be freaking out because he's like, you need to make my money spin here, buddy.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Do you see the Gardner-Minshew story? Yeah. Gardner-Minshew lived in a bus outside of a gym this off season. He connected the bus to the gym's electricity to power his fridge, AC, and cooking station. He used the gym's bathroom all summer and showered out in the open wearing compression shorts.
Starting point is 00:26:09 I don't know why they included the last line of that into the headline story. Because he definitely didn't. Yeah, he definitely showered outside nude. Because you can also shower in the gym's bathroom. They have a shower there too. Yeah, but he had to, you know, he did a grit summer.
Starting point is 00:26:23 And then speaking of grit, the last one I had was just a reminder that the Lions are hard knocks. So Dan Campbell's going to be awesome. Yep. I also saw that Lions players are now signing kneecaps, which is great. That's awesome. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:34 Dan Campbell was, he was doing up downs and pushups with the guys. Yep. Lions, Lions should get comeback franchise of the year. If they win like six games, we need to grade that. We need to grade that on a scale. Like Dan can, in fact, let's start having the conversation right now.
Starting point is 00:26:49 Dan Campbell, coach of the year. Yes. If they win five games, give it to him. Doug Peterson might as well. Yeah. Actually, Urban Meyer should win it. If the Jaguars win eight games, Urban Meyer should win Coach of the Year by getting fired.
Starting point is 00:27:00 He made the Jaguars good. And yeah, if he doesn't finger a 21-year-old's butthole this year, you can say, like, that's a step in the right direction. Yes, good job, Urban Meyer. OK, so that was a little appetizer to our Mount Rushmore. We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of training camp cliches, cliche storylines.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Who won the last one? I didn't check. I didn't either. Not us. We were on vacation. It wasn't Jake? I was on vacation. Oh, it was.
Starting point is 00:27:29 You guys won? No, it was us as a team. We lost. Oh, OK. I was saying, reiterating that his internet went out, but still a team. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So who won?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Glad to have you back, Billy. Yeah. I believe you guys won. I'll double check. Oh, OK. No, no, you know what? I actually did see it. You're right.
Starting point is 00:27:44 We did win. We did win. I forgot for a second. Oh, OK. Glad I could double check for you. Momentary lapse of mindfulness there. So I guess, do you want to go first, Big Cat? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Yeah, so we'll go first as a team. I did miss you guys being on vacation for a week. Sometimes they think about the show and just conversations that would happen and that didn't happen, so it's good to be back. What? No, I'm sorry. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 I was specifically, I watched The Bear over the last week. Good show. Very good show. I'm not like, so here was the fake conversation I had in my head. I liked The Bear as a show. I'm not a huge food guy. And then I was waiting for Hank's face to be like,
Starting point is 00:28:25 huh? Yeah, right, exactly. Meaning I'm not a big chef guy. But I was actually literally sitting in my house thinking about saying, I'm not a big food guy in Hank being like, huh? Yeah. Hank and I did something.
Starting point is 00:28:40 You were getting mad at me on your vacation. I was like, you motherfucker, Hank. Hank and I talked about the show a little bit when he came down on Wednesday night. And we just kind of like, he was telling me how when he opens up his computer sometimes, old episodes of part of my take start playing. No, my car Bluetooth connects to my iTunes
Starting point is 00:28:57 and the mixdowns will play. So it's like the before we like three, two, one clap. And I'll just get a random conversation that we had from like April, 2020 or something. And it's usually us just yelling at Hank. So I'm going to be like, Hank's trying to ruin the show already before we get started. Like, we like to get pre-mad before we do these episodes.
Starting point is 00:29:17 Like, get the competitive juices flowing a little bit. Lather up. Lather ourselves up. Like, Hank just gave us a look. That's a big topic that we like to have. That's funny that it just randomly plays. Yeah. Let's shout out the OG, Robert Little.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Yeah, it's like you never, I mean, some of the conversations are wild. Then it's like, all right, three, two, one. Yeah. Just get right into it. All right, so we're going to go first. Sure. Whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Let's have Hank and Bubba go second. OK. And then Jake and Billy will go third. Both Jake and Billy. Yeah, Jake and Billy will go third. All right, I think our 1-1 is very easy. And that is, it's the first one I sent. Yeah, the one that we.
Starting point is 00:29:57 It's players in the best shape of his life. So there's always one player who's like, this guy has finally done it. He's in the best shape of his life. It could also be like a combo of best shape of your life or added 15 pounds of muscle. It could go either way, lost 15 pounds of fat, added 15 pounds of muscle.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Just the player who everyone is talking about, he's in the best shape of his life. Watch out. Yeah, he changed his diet this off season. So he's going like a shrimp. He's going like chicken and fish vegetarian. So he cut out red meat this season. He finally got a nutritionist.
Starting point is 00:30:31 That could even, it could be as simple as that. He's been taking his body seriously this off season. Yeah. Stopped eating McDonald's. That's like, yeah, usually we'll be coupled with the story of this player used to drink six liters of soda a day. They stopped best shape of their life.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Yep, cut out soda entirely. It's a good pick. Thank you. Thanks, Hank. We alluded to this earlier when we were talking about the Steelers. But a coach saying there's a QB competition when one guy's clearly way better. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I like that. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's like every position's up for competition. It doesn't matter what the last name. The guy on the back of your jersey is. It could be Trebisky. It could be Rudolph. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It's all up for competition. Yes. Yeah, like Sam Darnold is beating Baker right now. But Baker's going to be the starter without a doubt. But it's up for competition. But it's up for competition. You're right. You're right.
Starting point is 00:31:23 OK, Chile. We're going to go with holdouts being a distraction. Yeah, the D word. The D word. I don't think anybody actually gets distracted during training camp. That's probably the one time of the season where it's impossible to be distracted if you're a player,
Starting point is 00:31:41 because you're literally just trying to keep your job. Yeah, that's a good one, too, because it's always, you always get a couple quotes from some of the veterans being like, we care about the guys who are here right now. Yeah, no. Like, we're not worried about the guys. You care about your all-star approval. Like, all we can control is who we got in this locker room
Starting point is 00:31:57 right now. Meanwhile, they're texting every night being like, Debo, will you please come back? Yeah, but then what the media will do on that one is they'll just see the quote of this guy says, I care about the players who are here. And they'll be like, this guy doesn't miss that guy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:09 And they're always wildly wrong about it. And you'll have the once every 10 years or five years where someone does the fucked up thing where they actually criticize a guy. And it's like, the rule number one is don't fuck with someone else's money. But you always get that randomly, and it's always great to see it's like, you fucked up.
Starting point is 00:32:26 OK. Second one we're going with is some sort of weird mode of transportation. Like, someone pulls up in a crazy truck, golf cart. Packers on bikes. Yeah, they do that every year, yeah. I know. Yeah, no, I like that.
Starting point is 00:32:42 They usually do. There's always one player that pulls up in one of those weirds, one like the weird three wheel spiders, the ones that are like, you only buy them to wreck them eventually. Troy Cohen, I think, had one a few years ago, yeah. Oh, didn't AB pull up in the back of a Brinks truck? And a hot air balloon.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah, and then someone who pulled up, who on Indy did? Was it TY pulled up in an Indy car, I think? Something like that. There's always a player that still drives their old car. And then the media writes like five stories about that. Like, well, can you believe this guy still drives his 2002 Honda? Or the GM trades up and. Well, I was talking about Alfred Morris.
Starting point is 00:33:16 I think Alfred Morris is still driving his 97 Honda Accord. OK, next pick. Good pick. We're going to go with a fat lime and catch a pun at the end of practice. Oh, yeah, that's good. That's good. Good for morale.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Let's take one out early. I like that. And if he drops it, they usually give him another chance. And they're like, OK, the coach doesn't want to be here either. Yes, yes. That's a good pick, Hank. OK. It's Bubba.
Starting point is 00:33:40 Good pick, Bubba. PFT, where do you want to go with this? I've got a lot. I like the first one that I sent to you. You also had it on your list. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's combined with what happens beforehand. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:33:55 So if there's a fight, then right afterwards it's, man, these guys just can't wait to start hitting somebody else. They're sick of hitting each other. They want some new blood out there. Yeah, the fight boils over and everyone's like, oh, should we be worried about this? Like, no, no, no, you don't understand. Like, this is camp.
Starting point is 00:34:11 These guys, they're ready. They just want to hit anything else. Yeah, they're sick of each other. Yeah, yeah. I love the fight because the fights usually always involve like a 300 pound lineman and like a 150 wide receiver. You know what I mean? Like, it's always just a crazy mismatch.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You're like, what are you doing? There's usually like a cornerback that will instigate it. And you know, cornerbacks, they like to talk a lot. And so they keep talking to an offensive lineman from like Iowa, who then grabs him by the face mask and then slams him through the crust of the earth. Yes, yes. OK, for our next one, all right.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah, I know what, we both sent it and we sent it back to each other as well. So the QB that's ready to take the next step that's finally learned the offense. So it's usually second year. And it's like, this guy feels comfortable with the terminology. He knows the playbook.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Everyone's kind of fitting together. The system makes sense to him. It's it's usually the second or third year where offense coordinator and QB are together. That's always a great story. Yeah, it's good to have some familiarity in the off season, not have to learn everything on the fly. I also think that in this case, this year is not so much
Starting point is 00:35:21 a second year quarterback I'm looking at for this one. I feel like Derek Carr is that guy this year. It's like, this is the year that Derek Carr takes that next. Josh Fritano will unleash Derek Carr. Yes, absolutely. Yes. MVP, $2,500. Oh, is that an official pick?
Starting point is 00:35:36 Yeah, Jersey Jerry gave it to me. I put it in. It's the first feature I have. MVP of the whole league? Yeah. The whole, you know, it's not AMC NFC. Listen, I trust Jersey Jerry. And this was the pick he gave me.
Starting point is 00:35:46 And I put it in. And now I'm just speaking it out loud. OK. And it will be rooting for it. You know, his name is Derek Carr. It seemed a little crazy. It seemed a little crazy. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Well, yeah, I get it. OK. And I was just saying like this is Derek Carr that we're talking about. Right. Derek Carr. Right. We're talking about the same Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:36:03 With one of the best wide receivers. Actually. And one of the best offensive coordinators. And they had a lot of promise last year. I'm actually going to my MVP pick. I'm going to, I actually, this is another thing I was thinking about just daydreaming about football. I think I'm I think I'm going to pick Russell Wilson
Starting point is 00:36:18 because it's like, you know that the narrative's there. Why? No, that's way less insane than fucking Derek Carr. Yeah, actually, I like the Broncos to win the AMC too. If the Broncos are incredible, Russell Wilson will get all the credit. Yeah. All of it.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Everything. True. Yeah. You're right. I don't think they're going to be. Also, you're right. Peyton Manning, his first year in Denver, would happen. He went fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:36:39 Exactly. True. All right. He had what's his name? His is OC. Fucking former Adam Gase. Genius. Boy wonder.
Starting point is 00:36:51 We're going to go speaking of Russell Wilson. He was a two sport athlete. It's just great to talk about football with the guys. Just want to say that. Football's back. Well, we're going to go with a two sport athlete that made the training camp roster, but everyone knows he's going to get cut.
Starting point is 00:37:03 OK. Or like Tim Tebow, like a high profile. Maybe like sometimes it's like a sprinter or something. Yep. But it's like it's a news for a week and you're like, oh, shit. Like this would be crazy. And then he gets cut three days later. Yep.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Always a fun, fun one where you're like, yeah, he's usually like the first guy get cut. Yeah. Yeah. But he ran like, yeah, he ran like a 9-4. Yeah, he has one day. He has one day. They need to bring back Tebow this year.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Can we just put our cards on the table and say we miss Tebow? I miss Tebow. You guys all miss Tebow, definitely, right? I just would like to see him try to walk more. Yeah, that's what I mean. Like those preseason highlights were laugh out loud funny when he was just getting run over by everybody. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:41 That part, definitely. Bring back Tebow. We're going to go with two picks now. Two picks. Our first one is going to be put your internet's cutting out on you. A player showing up fat. Ooh, yep.
Starting point is 00:37:52 That's one. Eddie Lacey. And it's like, is he fat? Letter for that. Letter for that was the newest one. Yeah. But guys showed up too fat. Yeah, first couple days of camp is always bad angles.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I mean, you get a picture of someone. You're like, is he fat? I haven't seen a lot of follow up on what happened letter for that because I would assume that if he really was fat, we'd still be talking about it, right? Or was it just like a bad report? Well, no, he got he got the lucky bounce of there was reports that he was fat.
Starting point is 00:38:18 And it was like a week before camp started. And that's just you can just lose 10 pounds of water weight in a second. Yeah. So then he shows up fine. It's the guys who show up for the first day. And it's like, ooh, that's not great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:29 The conditioning tests are so funny because they're never they're the easiest things ever. I remember I used to do it. I used to do the Bears conditioning test. And I pass it every year. They're just basically saying, are you a fat fuck? I drank. Did you actually get in the gym once in the office?
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah, I drank an entire bottle of Mad Dog and then went out and did the conditioning test. The Albert Haynesworth one that he failed. Yeah. It's very easy to do. Very easy. Very easy. OK, you guys have another one?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Yeah, it's going to be a rookie saying something out of context or going viral for just being a rookie, like Jamar Chase last year. Uh-huh. He's talking about catching the balls. And I was like, oh, he's going to be a boss and he's unreal. Yep. I like that one.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Rookie saying something that people go crazy about. Yes. All right, good pick. We're going to go with the positivity. Yeah. Sweets back to blow this one. I'm a sweet dick. No, this is my favorite favorite one,
Starting point is 00:39:24 common storyline, one of the best ones every year. It's a star quarterback banging his mom's best friend. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one. Classic. Got that doll. That is a very good one. Very enjoyable storyline.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I wish there was more follow up from that too. Yeah, the media has dropped the ball on that one. I know. No one has asked him one question about that. Or the other players. And we have insiders that go to the camp. Yeah, nobody has spoken up. And they haven't even got to get anything.
Starting point is 00:39:50 It's disgusting. No wonder our country's in the shape it's in right now. Billy, anything? I plead the fifth. OK, all right. All right, let's go with our last one. What do we got? Yeah, the last one, the late round
Starting point is 00:40:04 our undrafted guy who's turning heads. He's turning heads. And they compare him to a Hall of Famer. This guy's turning heads not to compare him to Lawrence Taylor, but you can see some physical similarities. Yes. And then the guy ends up getting cut. Yes, yes.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Where it's just like, OK. And you can also throw him into, he's very similar. That's usually a hard knocks guy too. Yeah, well, it's a combo guy because it's also the guy who's most likely to return a punt or a kickoff in the fourth quarter of a preseason game. And everyone's like, whoa, weapon. And then he's cut.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Yeah, you know, there's always a guy on defense that recovers like a crazy amount of fumbles during the preseason. And as we know about fumble luck, there's a lot of luck that goes into it. But they're like, this guy, I don't know something about it. He's just got a nose for the football. No, the ball just like happened to fall
Starting point is 00:40:49 near his feet three times. When all the scrubs were playing. Yeah, and they're like, wait, how come this guy got cut? He recovered three fumbles. I do love the fourth quarter like highlights. We're like, oh, shit. Yeah. Well, they are playing all backups.
Starting point is 00:41:00 So it's, you know, does context matters. Yeah. I was going to say, I think Victor Cruz is like the only person to ever actually work out from being like nasty in the preseason. Yeah, yeah. Like when he went off in that game and he had like three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Yeah, everyone's like, holy fuck, this guy's insane. Until Kyle Slaughter this year. Yeah, that's probably going to happen. All right. Things we missed. Honorable mentions. We also had a homecoming guy. Basically, if he played within 300 miles,
Starting point is 00:41:29 high school or college of where the team is playing, there's always a storyline like this guy, like it's a homecoming for him. Yep. Local kid makes good. Yeah. There's always a comically wildly inaccurate kicker. This year it was on the Jags.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I think he like hit a coach in the head with a miss field goal. Just as like cartoonish stuff. Like, oh, he's hit three uprights. And then he got his foot stuck in a bucket and fell down and a bottle of water fell on his head. When the coach says everyone has to earn their spot in this team, that's just BS, because I feel like entering training camp, 45 of the 53 spots are locked in.
Starting point is 00:42:03 Correct. The guy who's fully healthy for the first time in his career since his rookie year, Saquon this year, where it's like, I finally had a full off season where I wasn't injured. Watch out. And usually that guy just gets injured again. I love the players that show up still injured this season
Starting point is 00:42:20 from like a lingering injury that they had last year. Yeah. So they had, they got held out in October, November, maybe played one game in December with a hamstring issue. And then coach is like, we're going to work him in slowly here in August and make sure he's healthy. We don't want that hamstring to keep being an issue. And then guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:35 The hamstring is still an issue. Yeah, still an issue. I like the guy who unlocks the system. The player who they write about, and they're like, this guy was made for this offensive system. And it's just some like, it's usually some slot receiver. It's like, this is the perfect fit. They finally have this piece.
Starting point is 00:42:54 If we're talking system talk, just the player saying like, this offense is going to be fun. Yeah. Watch out. Yeah. New offensive system. Holy shit. Watch out.
Starting point is 00:43:03 I thought, and there's always a guy every year in hard knocks that you like just overhype way too much and then overdraft and fantasy, for sure. It's usually like a wide receiver who just makes a couple good plays. For a while, it was like a wide receiver. Yeah. No, you're right.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You can actually go through the list of guys on each hard knocks. And you're like, oh, that's why I drafted him. Whoops. I like the chemistry that starts to develop if you have like a new wide receiver in town. It's like, oh, they've been throwing together all off season. They've developed a great chemistry.
Starting point is 00:43:39 Different energy in the building. Different energy in the building. Different energy's changed. Yeah. Usually someone either got at it or someone was taken out. And it's like, oh, yeah, different energy. I like we got a great group of guys. It's always about like a just awesome group of guys
Starting point is 00:43:52 in the locker room. And we think that we think if we all work together and pull in the same direction, we can go on to do some pretty great things this year. Yes. Backup quarterbacks, just doing weird stuff. Yeah. Mint shoe, showering and compression shorts.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Yeah. Backup quarterbacks having a moment, for sure. And then the basics are always fun, like the defenses ahead of the offense. Offenses ahead of the defense. Just so you know, like I think I saw one quote this year. It was like, we got to start. Oh, it was actually Christopher McCaffrey talking
Starting point is 00:44:21 about Baker Mayfield. He was like, we got to start winning more sessions. Yeah, that's interesting. We got to start winning these. I like this quarterback finally has weapons. I like that one. I've been saying that a lot to myself about this off season. But yeah, just finally, you know what?
Starting point is 00:44:35 He's got a weapon. He finally has a true number one. He's going to be unlocked. I love unlocking guys. Unlocking in preseason is what it's all about. Anything else, Hank? You got anything that's, I'm trying to think if there's any. The Patriots never really have anything coming big
Starting point is 00:44:52 out of the training camp. Yeah, it's just like they're still good. The Bears usually just have some guy that everyone got excited about, got drafted, and then he just is injured all the time. Like Ryan Pace actually left a burning bag of shit on everyone's doorstep with Tevin Jenkins, who was supposed to be like,
Starting point is 00:45:10 holy shit, he got him the second round. He's just been injured the whole time. Yeah, I feel like the lineman punt thing is like the only, like that will always come out of the Patriots. Always. Is there ever a story that comes out of the Patriots camp where it's like Belichick was really pissed off at people today?
Starting point is 00:45:24 Like bad practice. No, I mean, I just enjoy like the reporters that live, we talked about the last show, but they live tweet the scrimmages and like the five on fives and stuff that like mean nothing and not even. They're like fifth pass of the day, got deflected, intercepted. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Oh, you know what I really love? When they're doing those live tweets and all the reporters at once say like, so-and-so usually like the second wide receiver on the team just made one of the most spectacular catches you'll ever see in your life. And then you watch it and it's just like, okay, that's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But then everyone always talks about that one catch that they made. George Pickens is that guy this year. I've seen so much stuff about George Pickens. And I think he is going to be very good, but people are talking like he's the greatest wide receiver of all time. After four training camp practice.
Starting point is 00:46:07 He might be. The last one I had was just the team goes bowling. That's always fun or plays mini golf. Yeah. It's always a fun little moment. I feel like teams though don't go to like camp anymore. You know what I mean? They don't stay away.
Starting point is 00:46:20 They don't just sleep away camp. Mostly, maybe it's a COVID thing, but like aren't most teams just in their facility now? The Panthers are doing it. They're somewhere else. I guess the Cowboys are in Oxnard. I don't think the Bears. I got a who's back.
Starting point is 00:46:32 Rookie Herakas. Yeah. Are they allowed to do that anymore? I don't know. Also, don't they do like talent shows a lot too? Yeah. The real talent show. They always do an impression on a coach.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Are we mixing up hard knocks moments with training camps? Well, hard knocks is a documentary about training camp. I know, but like it's usually what comes out of the media. No, but this comes out as well. Okay. Yeah. We're also kind of the media.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, we are the media. Fuck the media. The media is always making their own cheese steaks and pushing shit on us. Do you ever think about just maybe killing yourself, Billy, because you are the liberal media? What the fuck? You are who you hate.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You walk up one day and look at the beer. I'm the biggest lib. Yeah. You know, three time winner. Billy always tells himself, learn to code. Yeah. All right. This has got me very, very excited.
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Starting point is 00:48:29 Sling.com slash Barstool start watching free live TV today. Okay, who's back of the week, Hank? My who's back of the week is people talking about celebrities using private jets. Oh yeah. We talked about this on this show. Must've been last week with Kylie Jenner.
Starting point is 00:48:48 And I don't know if it was in response to that. Maybe it was like a Chris Kardashian thing, like trying to get all the bad PR off Kylie. But a list, a top 10 list got released of the celebrities that use the most carbon emissions and take private jets and private flights the most. It's a good list. Is Leo on there?
Starting point is 00:49:07 No, here, I got the list. Leo's not on there. Leo keeps fucking telling us about the planet. It's Travis Scott, who's Kylie's husband. What are you gonna say, Billy? No, I thought Hank was about to like, the Brazilian president retweeted Leonardo DiCaprio and was going after him for his private jet use.
Starting point is 00:49:23 Oh, because he wants to keep tearing down the rain force. Yeah. Okay. Oprah. Okay. The big O. She gets a pass. Mark Wahlberg.
Starting point is 00:49:34 Uh-huh. He has to stay ready. He has to stay ready. He has to be on planes. Okay. All right. Maybe I'll say for Mark Wahlberg, stop taking private plane all the time.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Maybe sleep in one day a week. And then you can take the private plane. Kim K. Okay. Okay. Blake Shelton. Okay. Not Blake of the Year material.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Our Blake of the Year takes the fucking The Luke plane out. The Saudi prince's private plane. Gets a lot of people around. Steven Spielberg. Okay. Whoa. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:08 A-Rod. We've been on it. We've been on air A-Rod. Beautiful plane. It is an unbelievably nice plane. It's an incredible plane. I'm not going to. If I had that plane, I would probably cruise it around as well.
Starting point is 00:50:19 If I had that plane, I would fucking take it to the bodega. Like I would go down the street. I'd be like, yeah, let me hop on this real quick. Jay-Z and Beyonce. Floyd Mayweather. That's not fair to combine them into one. No, I actually did that myself.
Starting point is 00:50:31 They actually were both on the list next week. Oh, wow. Wait, who has more? I think. Probably Beyonce. Yeah, I think Beyonce was three and Jay-Z was four. Floyd Mayweather. And then number one surprise people
Starting point is 00:50:44 because she's been outspoken against it was Taylor Swift. Oh no. She's taken, it's only been since January in her private jet. And then her PR team said that she lends the plane out and it's not her on all these planes. But 110 trips since January and like the average trip is like 80 minutes.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate. That's a fact. But yeah, the Swifties are, you know, I'm never, they're psychopaths and they're, you know, clapping back. Like our former co-worker? Yeah, I mean, there's just all the, there's, yeah, you know, Swifties go hard.
Starting point is 00:51:15 My rapper does go hard for Taylor Swift. And they're on their high horse. They always like to, you know, proper up, you know, say she's the queen and then. He's always tweeting snake emoji out. Say proper up or proper. Proper up, like, you know. Proper up, like the lads.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Like the Conor McGregor whisker. No, like, like, prop. Whiskey? Prop, proper up. Her up. Is it a plane pond you're using? Prop. Is that a plane thing?
Starting point is 00:51:35 Oh, a prop plane. Oh, they, they don't use props. They fly, they fly with jets, twin engine usually. I know. Yeah. Listen, this is one of those things that, well, maybe they should probably use less planes, especially if they're gonna, hypocrites,
Starting point is 00:51:49 fuck hypocrites, right? Like if people are, that's what I was saying. If Leo's on that list, I'm gonna be mad. Well, I'm sure that Al Gore wasn't on that list because usually he is included on those. But the anti-swifty is, you know, they're having a few good days. Yeah, the swift boaters?
Starting point is 00:52:03 But what I'll say again is we've been lucky enough to fly private every now and then. It is pretty fucking awesome. Like if you have the means to do it, like these people do, I would probably, it's probably the coolest, rich thing you can do. I remember the first time that you flew on Dave's plane somewhere and I was like,
Starting point is 00:52:24 I would never, like, I'm a coach guy. I'm highly coached. I'm a coach's son. And then you just happened to be on the next trip. And then I got on the next one. I was like, yeah, you know what? All my previous concerns completely out of what, fuck the environment.
Starting point is 00:52:37 So you just show up and you don't have to go to an airport and then you just land and then there's a car to pick you up? Oh, okay. Yeah, so I'm not gonna, I just don't end up on the top 10 last year. No, just don't be a hypocrite. Like what I'm saying right now,
Starting point is 00:52:49 if I would be hypocritical to be like, how could these fucking people do it? Knowing that like for college football's show, we like fly on private or rough and rowdy. I'm saying flying private is fucking sweet, so I'm not gonna judge anyone. Okay, I think that every plane, every private plane, if you're on this list,
Starting point is 00:53:05 you should have to carry bombs on it. Not like in a suitcase. I mean, like the plane should be armed. So like, there's a chance of a giant mishap happening while you're on the plane. Okay. Just add a little bit of danger to it at least. Okay, okay, it also is funny,
Starting point is 00:53:17 like it would be funny if it was, trying to think what school would be, who's had like a bunch of coaches coaching carousel? Like if like, if Florida was on there, if the Florida Gators were on there for one of the top, you know, users, that's really what it is.
Starting point is 00:53:33 We have to defend private planes because without private planes, college football crumbles. And the coaching searches, nothing happens. Coaching searches, recruiting, all this shit. Yep. Yeah. Okay, good, who's back? Yeah, and then Jack Young, top,
Starting point is 00:53:47 or Jack Homa, sorry. Jack Homa. Top 25, finish. Oh, nice. Jack Homa did, so he's back. Maxwell is such a perfect. I think Max only comes out in the majors. I think that's when it's Max.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Who needs to make the cut? It's Jack runs at the Fortnite challenge. He should do, he should go back and forth. Oh, okay, you're who's back, PFT. Okay, my who's back, I've actually addressed, I think, most of my who's backs already. So I had DeGrom,
Starting point is 00:54:12 DeGrom's making his first start for the Mets on Tuesday. Yeah, that's coming up. He's, yeah, he's, it's coming up later. So we haven't addressed it yet. He's back with the teaser. You know, teaser for later, DeGrom is back, and then I also had who's back to motherfucking NFL is back.
Starting point is 00:54:27 So back. And Tony Fennel is back. Tony Fennel is back to back. To back. Is what he is right now. He's gonna win again. He's back to back to back. You guys would have been taking a lot more private jets
Starting point is 00:54:37 if you had won the lottery, but that. That's true. Yeah, so losing, for me, losing's back. So I don't know what else I can do, but I paid $500 in lottery tickets, and that's so you wouldn't win. Actually more. It was a bad investment.
Starting point is 00:54:50 What can I say? I thought it was gonna win. I'd already started to spend the money. Turns out Steven Shea absconded with the winning ticket, and now he's just, he's MIA. So if you get eyes on Steven Shea, he has the winning lottery ticket. My problem, I've been the same with 50-50,
Starting point is 00:55:06 is that I went and bought 500 tickets and I was like, well, but the next one's probably gonna win. Yeah. So then I ended up buying like $700 tickets. I also shout out our good friend, Biz. I think Biz actually thought we were gonna win. He called me like two hours before and was like, we gotta strike a deal.
Starting point is 00:55:24 And I was like, okay. And he's like. I mean, that guy's hustler. Yeah, he was like. That guy is hustling 24-7. If I win, I'll give you $25 million, and I was like, let's make it 50, dude. What are we doing here?
Starting point is 00:55:36 And then he was like, what about PFT and Hank? I was like, well, if I win, I'm gonna take care of him. He's like, all right, if I win, I'll take care of him too. I was like, all right. Let's go. So you guys were in business, but then he was like, so how many tickets are you gonna buy? And I was like, I've already bought like $700
Starting point is 00:55:49 with tickets. He's like, oh, I was gonna buy like two. You mother fucker. It doesn't work like that. $500 worth of tickets. It was so many tickets to get. Like I was walking around feeling scared. I felt like I should have a briefcase
Starting point is 00:56:00 that was handcuffed to my arm. I was afraid to be walking around with what was essentially, I thought, $1.2 billion. It was tough. And then I thought after I lost the drawing on which I spent $500 in lottery tickets, maybe the worst investment of all time, I was like, wait, isn't it now statistically
Starting point is 00:56:16 the best time to play the lottery right after I missed the giant drunk? Maybe now I should go back and buy $500 with the lottery tickets because my strategy was off. And I convinced myself of that. So I think I'm gonna be buying $500 with the lottery tickets because now is when you're most likely to win the lottery. I'd agree.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It's like after a big plane crash, that's the safest time to fly. That's a fact. Lightning doesn't strike twice. I actually think it's the most dangerous time to fly. Right after? Well, if there's a pilot that like downs his own plane, that's the most dangerous day to fly is the day after
Starting point is 00:56:45 because it's in the news. And so other pilots see that and maybe one of them would be like, yeah, fuck, you know, I'm thinking about it. Oh, just go down, yeah. I guess this is something that we're doing now. I had the residual rush of, it was Illinois that got the winning ticket
Starting point is 00:56:59 and I saw where it was sold. I think it was in Oasis and I can't remember. Maybe it was outside Park Ridge. I can't remember exactly which town had it. But I texted everyone I knew around that area. So, and one of them didn't get back, one of my friends didn't get back to me for a while and I was like, he fucking won.
Starting point is 00:57:15 He's gonna keep me out of it. Turns out, no, because they didn't play the lottery. I think my big mistake was I bought my ticket at 7-Eleven. You have to buy it at like a independent bodega convenience store, one like the dirtiest gas station in town. It's gotta be a store. I went corporate, yeah, it's never at a 7-Eleven.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, all right, my who's back is pizza. This went viral. It was gonna be a Monday reading, but we got a big show announcement and also, what? What? What are you laughing about? No, you're just making me laugh, sorry. Okay, sorry.
Starting point is 00:57:45 Like a clown. Yeah, how do I look in your laugh? Like how funny? Yes, like a clown. But I'll just read it real quick. This went viral over the weekend. It's quick reading. It says, my boyfriend won't stop calling me Tony Pizza.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I, female 21 and my boyfriend, male 21, currently live together and have been together about four months to explain why we're living together after the four month mark. We started out as roommates, but then started dating. I have to say my boyfriend has never been good at pet names. Some early ones were Little Stubster, Sour Meat, and one of my nicknames for him in comparison is Little Bird.
Starting point is 00:58:21 Anyway, about two weeks ago, he starts calling me Tony Pizza. This doesn't even make sense, and he uses it more often than my actual name. He's obsessed. It honestly bothers me that he can't even bother to find a somewhat nice nickname for me. I have had a couple of conversations with him about it,
Starting point is 00:58:36 but he says he just can't think of anything better. What do I do? Is this gonna become a major, a bigger problem, or should I even address it? I hate being Tony Pizza all-time backfire for this chick because everyone was like, your boyfriend rocks. Tony Pizza's a hilarious nickname. Is it Tony with an I or Tony with a Y?
Starting point is 00:58:53 Tony with a Y, and also, like, bury the lead much. He called you Sour Meat, and you were fine with it, and Tony Pizza was too much? It's also better than what was the other one, like, Stubster. Little Stubster. Yeah, Little Stubster. That's never good. I mean, Sour Meat, there's gotta be some meat that's sour there, like, that didn't come out of nowhere.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Maybe see your option. Yeah, Tony Pizza's a great nickname. Yeah, Tony Pizza's not bad. You're named after maybe the most delicious food. Tony's just a cool name. I would just imagine- L.E.O., his restaurant is Tony Pizza. Just imagine to yourself that your name is Tony with an I,
Starting point is 00:59:29 and then it becomes a cool name if you're a chick. There's also, like, a 5% chance this guy's an AWL, and he's just in fantasy fuck-boys season. Tony Pizza. Hey, what's up, guys? It's Tony Pizza. Yeah. My girlfriend, she's got a stinky-ass pussy. Like Tony.
Starting point is 00:59:42 I call her Sour Meat. Tony Pizza, Tony Pizza, to me, just reminds me, like, it's a name that you would say out of affection, unlike Sour Meat, which is one that you're saying to bust balls. Yes. Do you really like pizza? Yeah. Is that your thing? Oh, well, guess what?
Starting point is 00:59:55 Get in line, because everyone else does, too. You're just honored with the nickname of it. Tony Pizza. Yeah, but it was such a hilarious backfire, because it was a universal, like, very rare that the internet can decide 100% on one thing, and everyone was like, Tony Pizza's a hilarious nickname. Yeah, I like Tony Pizza.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah, Tony Pizza. We needed Tony Pizza. OK, Billy, your who's back. My first who's back is Piss Jugs. How many you got? I got two, maybe three. OK, Piss Jugs, feel it out. I got two.
Starting point is 01:00:24 You'll feel it out of you. I'll feel it out. Piss Jugs, apparently, from an inside source I have, something that was posted to the NFL Reddit. The Carolina Panthers, apparently, have been having a Piss Jug problem in their facilities. They're all just having tons of Piss Jugs everywhere. How's that a problem?
Starting point is 01:00:43 It's not. I'm just, I love Piss Jugs. Oh, I guess it'd be a problem if they didn't empty them. That's the only way it could be a problem. Wait, are you saying, I want to back up a little bit, because the way you started the story was, I've got inside information into the situation. I found it posted on the NFL Reddit.
Starting point is 01:00:58 So your inside information is your Reddit password? Exactly. OK, got it. So here's, I have another follow-up question, because I'm really just, I'm kind of interested in the mind of Billy. I'm just trying to get into your mind, figure out what makes you tick.
Starting point is 01:01:10 What's the deciding factor whether you go two or three here? How, what's our relationship with Jake Paul like nowadays? That's, I mean, you could not exist at all? Yeah, whatever. Like, wait, Logan is the one we really like. Yes. Jake is, yeah, whatever. Yeah, well, his, one of his fights got canceled.
Starting point is 01:01:30 The guy pulled out. But that, I mean, who's side are you taking Billy? I was, I was, I was doing some, some toilet research earlier. It's not, it's not just, oh, watch out. Hanks got some toilet research. There's, there's, there's, there's, but there's two sides of the story. There's two sides of the story. And he's not just some guy.
Starting point is 01:01:47 He's a former heavyweight champion, Hasseem Rockman. So like, he's, he's a legitimate boxer. Now he's, no, that's his son. Yeah, no, it's his son. Yeah, he's not, yeah, no, it's definitely not him. Uh, yeah, Hasseem Rockman. I didn't do enough toilet research for him, so. Yeah, why don't you leave it up to the experts here?
Starting point is 01:02:02 Well, to be, to be honest, I did driving research, which is worse than toilet research. So that's, you can understand how I saw Rockman. And then my brain just put two and two together as I was on the highway. I was like, oh, it's the guy that was a fucking heavyweight champion of the world. Well, mine is TikTok research.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Okay. So you got toilet and TikTok research. Let's see who's got better research. No, so basically there was dispute about the weight. It had to do with the New York state commission. They said that Rockman was too heavy net right now to fight in a week at the 200 pound weight limit to weigh in at 200 pounds.
Starting point is 01:02:36 But what's the point of a weigh in then? Right. So that's where it gets weird. It has to do with the rehydration clause, which is something that, like what? So Rockman's much bigger than Jake Paul. He was going to just lose like 20 pounds of water weight. Well, he also basically, he said that, sorry to interrupt,
Starting point is 01:02:52 Billy, he said that he signed the contract to fight at 200. He's like 225 right now. And there's a big, he loses a lot of money. There's a big, like he loses 25% per pound that he's overweight. And he basically was like, even if I'm overweight, I'll just fight for whatever the minimum. Like I'll fight for 5K. I don't care.
Starting point is 01:03:11 And then he's saying that Jake Paul was scared of him fighting at a heavier weight and backed out. Well, the thing is he, Jake Paul wouldn't beat him at 250. Yeah, like I'm on Jake Paul's side. Like 10 pounds in boxing is a lot. You're walking around. And he signed the contract to fight at 200. Yeah, and it sounds like it's 25 pounds.
Starting point is 01:03:31 He has three weeks. He lost, he went from 230 to 215 in like a week. Yeah, but he could get down to 200. It's just, he could get way into 200 and then come back, but then it would be the rehydration class. So Jake Paul would be fighting a guy with the dehydration. Yeah, it's 25 pounds heavier. But he would be way more dehydrated and probably win
Starting point is 01:03:52 because he wasn't hydrated enough to fight. It sounds like there are too many weigh-ins in this fight. There should be one weigh-in. Yeah, the weigh-in before the weigh-in. It's the weigh-in, either that or you have like a post weigh-in weigh-in and you're allowed to gain like up to 10 pounds back after the second weigh-in, which is the official weigh-in. There's also a lot of Twitter reply guys,
Starting point is 01:04:11 who knows the truth, this or not, that are saying that the fight wasn't selling well at all. And so Jake was kind of like whatever. You know, he found an out and took it. Because it is like, wearing this much about weight this far ahead of the fight, it's kind of crazy. Also Dylan Danis is spreading false, he's like spreading unconfirmed rumors
Starting point is 01:04:33 that there was offers of a dive to Rockman and he didn't take it. And then it was like, oh, it's a real fight, as you know. So who knows how it's going. It'd be real shame if somebody were to spread rumors like that all the time about things that they didn't know. Yeah, but who knows? I mean, the thing is it's funny.
Starting point is 01:04:52 How much did you get paid for the dive? And what were you said, like my shoulder or what? I don't know. But the thing is, what's funny about all these problems is that Jake Paul's running into all the problems like the boxing promoters did in the 1930s. And that's what you get for competing outside of sanctioned, like WBA, WC.
Starting point is 01:05:12 It's like history repeating itself. This type of stuff happened in the 20s. It was lawless land. Would there be anything worse though than if you were a fighter on that card? Like one of the undercards. And you train for that long. And then it's like, oh, yeah, you're
Starting point is 01:05:26 not going to fight next week. That'd be such a letdown. Counterpoint, it is the summer and you got a six pack. That's true. So that's kind of cool. I would just be pissed off at all the work that I did that I didn't have to do. I would go back and I'd look at the calendar
Starting point is 01:05:39 and be like, I could have gotten drunk on St. Patrick's Day. I couldn't eat a shitload of cheesecake on Valentine's Day. I would have really mad. I would just walk around without a shirt on for the entire summer. Amanda Serrano is the big loser in all of this. Oh, because she was on the card? Yeah. Yeah, that does suck.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Oh, another who's back is liver shots. You see that dude in the UFC match? Get knocked out via kick to his liver. I'd be pissing butt for a while. I fucking love liver shots. I've heard that they're the most painful thing that can happen to you. Is to get contacted directly on your liver
Starting point is 01:06:07 because it's got all these nerve endings in there. And then to get knocked down via kick to your liver. And then instantly after, when you're in the most pain that a person can be in, you're also just getting punched in the face repeatedly. I would rather die. I would honestly just, if you're thinking about doing that to me, just shoot me in my head.
Starting point is 01:06:23 The worst one I ever saw was Brock Lesnar against Alistair Overeem. He got liver-shotted and just got pounded. That's my kink is watching liver shot compilations. Watch that one when you get the chance, because Brock Lesnar, a monster of humor, going down. Yeah, no, it's like some like, it looks like magic. Because you're like, wait, he just got hit in the side.
Starting point is 01:06:45 That shouldn't hurt. And then they just die. And they usually get, there's like a half second where they don't realize they're in pain yet, and they take that next step, and then they stop. It's like kill Bill. Yeah, it's crazy. All right.
Starting point is 01:06:55 Oh, you have one more? Yeah, the Guardian Protective Gear. What do you guys think about that? Go on. They had that new equipment. Wait, wait, wait, pretend that we don't know. I know. I'm just going to say I hate it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 What do you think, big cat? I think it's the pacification of America. OK. Big storyline. Yeah, I mean, so basically in train camp. Oh, that! OK, that guy. She said the bumblebee hat.
Starting point is 01:07:16 I was, yeah. The Velcro-looking thing they put on top of the helmets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, puts the vacation of America. Yeah, there it is. I nailed it. Sala has a great take. His take is that because it's that extra protection,
Starting point is 01:07:28 players are going to actually start using their heads more with it, and then as soon as they take it off for a real game. But they're not using it for boxing. They're not using it for full pads. They were using it when they were just doing the first few days with no pads, right? No, they use it in full pads. Oh, they do?
Starting point is 01:07:42 To prevent the sub-concussive blows that happen in multi-detention training camp. I think it just looks funny. Yeah. I think they should get rid of helmets all together. No helmet. Stop using your heads. I guess you can only pass the ball backwards.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And then touchdowns, you actually have to touch the ball down there with five, and then the extra points with two. I got to start doing the big head pictures with those. I'm going to do one right now. It's going to be fucking sick. All right, keep going. A lot of guys hate them.
Starting point is 01:08:07 All right, Jake, you're up. My who's back is text reminders. They cut this one for you. OK. Todd McShay came on the show in late April. You called him a good friend. And he's like, how am I a good friend? He texts me once a year.
Starting point is 01:08:19 So he told me to remind you to text him a few times a year. A few days a day? Today's the day that came up for the first time. What should I say to him? Hello, friend. I'm going to say, what's up, Todd? Hope you're well. And then maybe a thumbs up emoji.
Starting point is 01:08:32 What's it like, not make it creepy? Hope you've been following your stuff recently. Great as always. Keep crushing it, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Let's OK, I say. Ask him about the helmets.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Hey, Todd. Hey, Todd. Just checking in as friends do. Hope you're well. Keep killing it. Talk to you in April. Keep killing it. No, no, no.
Starting point is 01:09:01 Be like parentheses, but not actually murder. Ha ha. And then be like, we got to catch up soon. Yeah, yeah. Got to catch up soon. Talk soon. OK, bye. All right, I said it.
Starting point is 01:09:20 He's going to think that's really creepy. Yeah, that's going to, that probably won't go over well. We should just call him and ask him to suck our dicks. OK, that's aggressive. Billy, I didn't know you got down like that. My man. How do you think I knew about this? What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:09:35 Never mind. That was a good joke. There's some people who won't get that reference. No, I know. I know people who didn't, who aren't seven time. Yeah, people were like four time. But you know what? That was that was our past us.
Starting point is 01:09:48 We're it's good that we're past. We've evolved as men as humans. Now we just go fucking just hand job so we can get more people to just just kid stuff. Yeah, yeah. Our mouths got tired. We have two hands, only one mouth. Oh, he put me on the bottom four times today, four entries.
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Starting point is 01:11:13 Listen to it. It's out twice a week. They're doing a great job. Carl, shout out my guy Carl. You guys were out at LA, did some great content. We wanted to have you on, Jake, because we got trade deadline coming up. Let's start big picture.
Starting point is 01:11:27 You've been on teams that are sellers, teams that are buyers. What is the vibe like in a clubhouse, like a day or two before trade deadline, where everyone's like, uh-oh, what's going to happen here? Well, so this past year, when I was with the Cubs and we started getting rid of guys, you know, Chris Bryant was gone, Javi was gone, we got rid of Rizzo. And leading up to that moment, we were still kind of in it,
Starting point is 01:11:55 at least a little bit. And then once the first guy gets traded, you're like, well, shit, like, OK, now it seems like we're sellers. We might not have the ability to gain ground in the division and everyone knows it. And it's a shitty feeling. So it takes a few days for you to kind of get over that.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Man, and when the guys started leaving, like when Rizzo was traded, I mean, that was an emotional moment, as you guys could imagine. Being a part of that big run with all of us, it was hard to see him go. But you just you kind of understand why it has to happen. It's for the for the best interest in the organization. But that doesn't mean it's easy for players to deal with.
Starting point is 01:12:37 So it's tough. You'd rather be on the buying side when you're in like that wild card situation, kind of like the Mariners are, when you bring in a guy. Luis Castillo went to the Mariners. Like that's a huge move. So, I mean, the the energy, the vibe of the clubhouse only increases.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And I mean, when you bring in a guy like that, man, like your chances of, you know, maintaining the wild card or or overcoming another team and getting into that wild card only only goes up. So it's it sucks to be on the side where you're selling, but you understand it. But, you know, when you buy and you get a big piece like that, I mean, man, the vibe couldn't be better in the clubhouse.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Yeah. So you've also been, you were traded from the Orioles to the Cubs in July. Scott Feldman. Yeah. July of was it 2013? Yep. So was that right around the all star break? Or was it where you actually like in the middle of games? Because I'm always wondering when you get traded to a new city as a player, you have to also take into account your actual life and you're moving to a new city, but you're also working
Starting point is 01:13:45 and you're traveling and doing all this stuff for the team that takes up so much of your time. Like what's that process like for a player getting to a new city? Having to find a house or having to find a condo or something like that that they're moving into? Well, so there's so many people behind the scene, like you got VJ, who's the best travel secretary in all of baseball. Shout out to VJ with the Cubs.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I mean, he reaches out right away and kind of help she facilitate that process. And, you know, I had I had a I have a CPA who I've worked with since I was drafted, who I was connected to through Scott Boris and Boris Corporation. So they take care of, you know, changing utilities and finding a new place and helping you pack and ship all your stuff to the next city.
Starting point is 01:14:28 Some guys don't have that luxury. Some guys are kind of on their own and they have to have their mom or dad or sister, brother, whatever help help them with that. So it can be tough. But for me, I was in a situation where I was just ready to get out of Baltimore. I couldn't wait. I knew a trade was looming. I didn't know where I was going to go. But when I got the phone call that I was traded to Chicago, I'm like,
Starting point is 01:14:46 let's let's go like this is like it could it could be a better situation for me and what happened after that, you know, for the next three or four years after I was traded. I mean, it's just it's kind of a storybook ending. But yeah, it's it's a difficult process. But you just you have to have a support system and most people do that can help them find a place to live. Or I mean, some guys stay in a hotel from the moment they were traded until the end of the season.
Starting point is 01:15:14 And, you know, sometimes that's the best way to go. That sounds like that'd be fun. Just like somebody else make. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Actually, room service every night. In my dumb brain, the hardest part would be joining a new team and then having to learn like all these different new handshakes with every new teammate.
Starting point is 01:15:29 Yeah, you have to like invent your own new handshakes from scratch. Yes, yes. Well, and also it's like when you when you walk into a new clubhouse and Scott Feldman was traded and I know him and Samarja were tight and the guys are like, you know, we're bringing we're bringing Pedro Stropin, this guy named Jake Arietta and like, why are we doing this? And I totally understand that at the time. And those guys are right for thinking that because they lost one of their boys even though they were in a situation where they weren't going to go anywhere
Starting point is 01:16:00 in the postseason that season. So for me, when you go in, it's like, hey, let's try and build these relationships as fast as we can, get to know guys and just just be an open book. Like, you know, and I think that's the only way you can approach it. Because if if you're standoffish and you're quiet in the clubhouse, guys tend to not like that. So I'm I'm shaking hands. I'm asking people personal questions about their their girlfriend, their wife,
Starting point is 01:16:24 their kids, whatever it might be, just to kind of acclimate myself into that vibe as quick as possible. All right. So let's talk this trade deadline. Let's start with the big one. Juan Soto, do you think he gets traded? And if he does where I've heard the Cardinals, I've heard the Padres. I've heard maybe that the price is too high. Where do you like if you had to if you gun to your head,
Starting point is 01:16:47 what what are you saying once Soto happens on Tuesday? Well, as you guys know, anywhere that wants Soto would land makes that team instantly, you know, extremely better. So I heard Jake Peavey give a take on on the network about him potentially ending up in San Diego. And I could also see St. Louis. I think St. Louis, it could be kind of a trojan horse for somebody like Soto.
Starting point is 01:17:14 St. Louis is an organization who always finds a way to find these guys. Obviously, Soto isn't just finding a guy, but they always bring guys up and and they're always good, whether it's development or just high character guys, whatever it is, they always find guys that perform. But I would love to see Soto in San Diego for the simple reason that the Dodgers have just dominated the NOS forever. And if the if the Padres are serious about taking that next step, what better way to make that statement than to bring in a guy like Juan Soto?
Starting point is 01:17:49 Yeah. So you've worked with Boris before. What are the communications like behind the scenes when they're talking contract? It's all going back and forth. How much information is he giving you about the the status of the contract versus like, what are you hearing through the grapevine? Are there leaks that come out from other people? Like how what's that process like from your end? Yeah, well, typically, like the leaks that come out are just our bullshit
Starting point is 01:18:12 and the rumors that there's really sometimes there might be some merit to it. But I'd say nine out of ten times the information that it is that is factual, that is actually hard, hard information, hard facts is going from the team to the agent to the player. And in my situation, that's always been the case. I mean, I've gotten calls from Scott at two o'clock in the morning, four o'clock in the morning with, hey, we just got off the the phone with the the GM from Baltimore, the GM from San Diego.
Starting point is 01:18:42 And this is what the deal is, or this is what they would like to do moving forward. So and I know Arod said said what he said about, you know, the the players, the boss, not the agent. And that's true. But are you would you ever walk into court and represent yourself in a huge, huge case with without an attorney? That's just not that's not what's going to happen. So if we were able to negotiate these contracts on our own, we would do that.
Starting point is 01:19:11 But we can't do that. And that's why we have advisers and agents like all the players to do in the entire league. Was he trying like, I know Scott, from my understanding and what he's done with a lot of players, he likes his players to get to free agency because that's good, not just for them, because, you know, they can get, they can command a higher price on the open market, but also all the other guys that he represents, that increases their salary as well. What's that back and forth like where you're like, you know, OK,
Starting point is 01:19:39 I need to balance his advice to me with me saying, you know, I I would like to make a lot of money, but also the situation is important too. And if I'm in a good situation, I want to stay there. Well, I think what people fail to remember is that Scott has 10, 20, 30, 40 or 100 clients and aren't these these marquee free agents that sign, you know, these these smaller contracts every single year. But people really love to focus on the, you know, like the blue chip free agents that he has.
Starting point is 01:20:12 And they wonder why somebody would turn down a deal like Juan Soto. Juan Soto is worth 60, 70 million to a team per season. Same thing with Bryce Harper, that contract is going to pay for itself. It's probably already paid for itself. The amount of jerseys and tickets that guys like that selling and their ability to get guys in the stadium and in the seats, the revenue that they generate, it supersedes the contract by far. But that can be a difficult situation.
Starting point is 01:20:42 If you have an AAV, a contract, say, say four years for, you know, 120 million on the table and you're saying and your agent's telling you, you can get, you know, you know, 25 million a year. That's a difficult situation, because if you say no to that contract, it could go away. So what you got to do is you have to process the information. You have to console your family, obviously your advisors. And then ultimately it's your it's your decision.
Starting point is 01:21:10 And some guys have made poor decisions based on the information that they've gotten from from their agent. There's no way around it. And that's that's always going to be the case. Players aren't aren't always going to, you know, maintain the upper hand. Sometimes the team gets the best of you and sometimes the player wins. Yeah. Yeah. There's definitely times when you see that where a guy gets like he signs a deal
Starting point is 01:21:33 and it's like, Oh, that wasn't the best deal. He's going to he could get way more. I want to talk about your former team, the Orioles. So this is a little bit there. There's a rooting interest for me because I do have a ticket for the Orioles to win the AL at 400 to one. I was reading that they might be sellers and like Tre Mancini might get treated. Like I saw that too.
Starting point is 01:21:55 Yeah. Like so. So here's what I don't understand. And it's not apples to apples. But like the 2015 Cubs at the trade at the All Star break or halfway through, we're, you know, a few games over 500. They weren't the best team in Major League Baseball. They were a lot of young guys coming up like starting like things were progressing quickly. It feels like the Orioles are in that that boat where it's like things are
Starting point is 01:22:18 happening faster. Why not? You don't have to buy big things, but why not buy a couple of things to show that like, Hey, let's try to give a push to get to the playoffs instead of being sellers and pushing it off again. Because don't you think that has a detriment to like what the Orioles are building if they start selling off pieces when they're two or three games away from the wild card this year?
Starting point is 01:22:41 Well, so where is Tre Mancini at in his in his contract? Is it will he be a free agent after this year next year? I think it might be after this year. But I just. Yeah. OK. I still. Yeah. I think it's after this year. I'll double check it right now. Well, so so if you're going to buy, you have to you have to think about this,
Starting point is 01:22:56 which I'm sure you have, what do you are you potentially giving up pieces that could be a part of your future that that next year you might have a short stop that's ready to hit the ground running, make the team at a spring training or a right fielder or a guy at the bench who could play multiple positions as a utility guy. So, man, it's just so hard to to have these these meetings. That's why I said I I would not want to trade places with guys in the front office. And sometimes we we talk shit about them and we we give them a hard
Starting point is 01:23:26 time. But it's a pretty difficult job because if you make the wrong decision and you give up a high prospect that's that it's going to be ready to help your ballclub in the next season or two to get a rental player and then you don't make the wild card. And it's like, hey, why the hell did you make that decision? You see what I'm saying? Yeah, no, definitely. I just looked it up. He does have one more year with the Orioles.
Starting point is 01:23:45 But it's one more year. So so in 20, then you could you could you could. OK, so that's you got one more year of them. So you could command a higher price for him. Yeah. But then you're also losing him and his ability to for what he could potentially do for you next season and team leader. But like, all right, so back to the 2015 Cubs, you know, they didn't make a splash. They got Dan Herron, who's a good friend of ours. But like it was the the sign of like, hey, we're not we're going to add even
Starting point is 01:24:11 if it's a smaller piece, let's add something and keep pushing. I feel like the Orioles, maybe I don't know the situation well enough. But I feel like they're they're playing great baseball like playing good. They're they're right there. I'd rather try to get my young guys into the playoffs to give them that seasoning than potentially, you know, shed some parts and keep pushing it down to the next, you know, next year. Well, what do you think about?
Starting point is 01:24:36 So so there were is it three games out of the wild card currently? I think there are three or three or something like that. So in with with the juggernaut right at the top of the division and you have Tampa, right? Other than that, Toronto, Toronto has been up and down. They have been playing great. Boston has been bad shit. Then they play great.
Starting point is 01:24:57 Maybe you just roll with the guys you got. Yeah. And see, see, see where you're at, because at least that way, that kind of gives the the the players in that clubhouse confidence. Like, hey, they didn't bring anybody in. They think that we can potentially, you know, get into a wild card spot with the group we have. And just that, like, if that takes the confidence from like a seven to an eight or whatever, if it just takes that,
Starting point is 01:25:23 you know, that vibe up just just one notch, maybe they get into the wild card. Yeah. You know, you never want to see guys get injured, but things happen all the time. And if Boston continues to play poorly, if Toronto doesn't play that well, if, you know, say Tampa slides, you know, several games, they're right in it. So I actually don't hate the the idea of just rolling with the guys they currently have. Yeah, you don't even have to buy there. There are three games out right now.
Starting point is 01:25:47 They do have two teams in front of them, but it's going to be, you know, like one of these teams is going to get hot. Like if you look at the wild card right now, Toronto, Seattle, Tampa Bay are in Cleveland, Chicago, White Sox and then Baltimore, the next three. One of those six teams is going to get crazy hot and like, you know, run away with the wild cards. That's just going to happen. Absolutely. Absolutely. And somebody's going to one or two, maybe three teams
Starting point is 01:26:12 are going to lose 10 in a row or lose, you know, eight to 10. And Baltimore could go, you know, eight and two. So I mean, there's still so many games to play. And that's why that's why I love to see so many teams still in contention for the wild card. And Carl and I talked about this last week on one of our shows. You never want to see teams talk about the wild card in the first half, because if they're talking about the wild card in the first half, it's like, oh, well, you're already you're already giving up on the division.
Starting point is 01:26:37 But now after the All-Star break, teams start to see kind of where they fit in. And not that you don't still have an opportunity to win that division, but you see teams just a game or two ahead of you. And it's like, hey, we're fighting for that spot. And we still have a legitimate chance to get into that thing. Yeah. I think we're looking at it from the aspect of like, what's the best baseball move to make? And a lot of these teams, I think, are looking at it from a financial aspect.
Starting point is 01:27:02 Probably the Orioles, actually, now that I think about it, they probably just don't want to pay anyone. Travelling in cities, they're highest paid players seven or eight. Actually, I think they're highest paid players. Actually, Chris Davis, who doesn't play for the team anymore. Yeah, Peter Angelo, he's probably like, I'm sick of writing these big paychecks. Let's make a move and then, you know, let the let the chips.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Yeah, I mean, but like when you have guys and this is what bothers me about sports, you guys are sports guys. I know you'll love football, basketball, baseball, hockey. Does it bother you when you hear you you hear billionaires complaining about spending money for their team? Because if you don't like it, if you don't like it, I guarantee you there's a hundred other billionaires that will line up to buy your team. The way I look at it, if you're a billionaire and you own a sports team
Starting point is 01:27:43 and you don't care about winning, like go buy it, go buy a natural gas company. Go make money or something else or just continue like like Peter Angelo's. Go continue to do asbestos, lawsuits. Yes, follow your passion, two hundred and two hundred and fifty million per suit and give the team to somebody else. Yes, that's that's that's that's that's just bothers me. And people always like hate on the players. Oh, they're greedy. No, the owners are cheap.
Starting point is 01:28:11 The owners are cheap. So we always take the mindset on this show. We've said it a hundred times, like if you're a billionaire and you don't buy a sports team, there's something wrong with you, like red flag. That's the goal. The goal ultimately is to make enough money to buy a sports team. Now, that is the rest of your life. That's your toy.
Starting point is 01:28:27 That is the best toy that you can possibly have. And like winning a championship or trying to win a championship. To me, like if you're an owner and you're putting that together, you're playing like real life fantasy sports and you care about your team. Like that's that's really ultimately the level that everybody should aspire to get to. No question. The owners that don't care about that. It's like, go get into insurance, buy an insurance company. I don't care. Just don't fuck around with like an entire city's morale.
Starting point is 01:28:50 Right. Like Gary Vee needs to buy a sports team. Like he need because like he's a competitive dude. Have you guys had him on the show? Yeah. No, we haven't had him on the show. But I mean, he would just I think everyone would like some of his advice probably would backfire in a sports team where he's like, think about your whole family getting murdered and then and then go about your day. Like that shit.
Starting point is 01:29:10 I feel like if he said that to some guys in a clubhouse, they'd be like, what the fuck do you say? Yeah. Well, yeah, that changes things a little bit. Maybe they just get really good, though. Maybe the advice would work. Maybe they would. So did he did he say that? Yeah, he's a very person out of a seminar. Yeah, funny clip. I just would love for him to like go into an NFL locker room and be like,
Starting point is 01:29:31 everyone here, like imagine your whole family getting murdered. And then what are you going to do about it? And like they just all beat the fuck out of him. Like, fuck you. Yeah, he'd get torn. Like, yeah, from limb to limb. Yeah. No. OK. Maybe he doesn't need it. Or just don't don't don't address the team if that's what you're I think.
Starting point is 01:29:49 Gary Vee should get a team just like hopefully not my team. Just somebody else's team. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. But you you guys know what I'm saying. And like I Peter Angelos and it's not just this is not an attack on him. It's it's all the teams that complain that they're in a market that doesn't do well enough to warrant spending a certain type of money on players. But if I own a team and I'm a billionaire from all these other business ventures, I'm I'm OK with taking maybe a little bit of a loss
Starting point is 01:30:17 to sign these players to have a shot to win a championship. Because look, yeah, they're all wealthy. They're all wealthy. Now, don't you want to ring? Yeah. Don't you want to hold that? Don't you want to hold that trophy or whatever whatever sport you're in? Don't you want that? I know I would. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I said it on a podcast a couple of weeks ago. It's like Elon Musk going to Mars. Like, you know what's cooler than Mars? The Lombardi trophy. Like when that that's way cooler than going to Mars. But that's what ends up happening with all these guys. I mean, rich people don't like to give away their money. And that's how they get rich.
Starting point is 01:30:47 And that's how they stay rich is they're usually pretty cheap. I agree with you, though. It does drive us insane. All right. So give us another team or player that you think is going to make an impact like we, you know, there's a lot of there's a lot of teams that, you know, the Yankees are in talks, the Cardinals we mentioned, the Padres, it feels like the Astros.
Starting point is 01:31:07 Maybe we talk about them for a sec. They have like seven starting pitchers. Like, are they going to they're going to do the reverse where they're they're a clear World Series contender and they might trade someone because they just have too many guys. Well, that's that's a that's a serious luxury to have where you have too much pitching because I don't know if there's another team that they can say that.
Starting point is 01:31:30 But if there's if there's one guy. That I would like to see go somewhere else and have an opportunity to win a ring. And you have a chance if you trade for this guy, you need to you need to sign him because he's going to be really good for the next five, six, maybe seven years is Wilson Contreras. I mean, he hasn't been traded yet. And I know that people like they don't want to see him go.
Starting point is 01:31:54 But if you've seen Chris Bryant, Javi, Schwerber and Rizzo go, you can see anybody play in another uniform. You see what I'm saying? So in I mean, look, Wilson, Wilson's Wilson's a crazy person. But he's also as as dedicated to helping the team win as anybody I've ever seen. And he instantly makes you better. It's I I don't think he makes quite as big of an impact as well on Soto
Starting point is 01:32:24 because who can write pretty damn close. So all right. So here's my only question about Wilson. I love Wilson. I hope that I wish the Cubs would would keep him, but it doesn't seem that way. Yeah. How hard is it, though, to trade for a catcher at the deadline, knowing that a catcher in a pitcher's relationship is a huge part of the game? And you can't build that overnight. And Wilson, you know, he's not known for, you know, being the best with pitchers.
Starting point is 01:32:50 He's his bat is is is a plus bat as a catcher. But like, yeah, how much is that weigh in a good point? Look, I've I've told I've told people this for years. I've talked about it on our show. I didn't I think it's it's it's ridiculous when guys have to have a certain catcher behind the plate. I think it's I think it's stupid. I didn't as long as you got to you got a catcher's met behind the plate
Starting point is 01:33:14 and you've gone over the hitters with me in the pregame meeting and we're on the same page, I don't give a shit. Like I was a little bit slower to the plate. And, you know, if if we don't throw the guy at second base, like maybe that's on me, I'm not going to blame my catcher. Most of the guys in the big leagues now are adequate enough to get the job done. So some of these starting pitchers need to to kind of take a step back and maybe take some of the blame
Starting point is 01:33:43 when things don't go go that well. If they're giving up multiple stolen bases on inning or or whatever, like look inward and not outward. So I think I think the picture catcher relationship obviously is very important. But you should need to be catered to and have a certain guy behind the plate for you to have success. Well, I like that answer. I didn't expect that.
Starting point is 01:34:03 And I like because, you know, like as sports fans on the other side of it, we're always taught, you know, like there are guys who need specific catchers and there are there is that relationship that like some guys feel comfortable with others. But I like what you're saying, like that, you know, they're all pros out there. If you're if you're a catcher in the big leagues, you can you're good enough to catch anyone. That's a fact. That's the fact. And yeah, you say you said it well, if you're in the big leagues, your your job description is the same as the next guy.
Starting point is 01:34:34 Yeah, look, I mean, the guy that backs up Wilson Contreras isn't as good. The guy that backs up JT Romulo isn't as good, but it's still a majorly catcher. And he's he's busting his ass. He might not have the best pop time. He might not be as good defensively, but he's not going to affect my ability to locate certain pitches. Now, is there any truth to like certain catchers are really good at calling games for certain pitchers?
Starting point is 01:34:58 Yeah, yeah, that's true. But then that that's the the catcher that might not be as good needs to just spend a little bit more time with with those pitchers that he doesn't catch as often and, you know, watch video, talk, scouting reports and and build that relationship and become a little bit closer. I mean, shit, guys, we're we're at the field from one o'clock to five or six o'clock before the game starts. There's plenty of time to sit down and have a 30 minute conversation,
Starting point is 01:35:26 you know, three or four days a week. Yeah, you know, so I just don't think there's any excuse for it. Yeah, I like that. What about another big name trade deadline acquisition that's about to happen? That's the New York Mets getting Jacob DeGramme. So let's talk a little Jake on Jake. Oh, wow. He did some rehab. You guys know I love I love them.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I love them. It's like, yeah, it was a great question. It's like getting a guy at the deadline. Yeah. You know, Scherzer's back and he just did what he did at the Yankees, what he went seven or eight scoreless. Fuck, man, you just you can't overstate enough how important he is to the game of baseball and the New York Mets.
Starting point is 01:36:09 And if they if they can find a way just to score a few runs of the game, they're they're going to win that division. Yes, there's no there's no down my mind because Max is a freak. We know DeGramme's a freak when he's healthy. They just need to hope that he can stay on the mound all the way through October. So what's that like for him? Because he's made some rehab starts. He pitched very well.
Starting point is 01:36:31 He's going to I think they're going to put him out on the mound on Tuesday this week. And there's going to be a lot of adrenaline in the system. I think he was already hitting 100 miles per hour in the miners and rehab starts. So he's got the velocity, all that stuff. The adrenaline that he's going to feel when he comes out there. Does he have to like limit himself? Is that a real thing where you can get too excited about that first game back? Because like he needs he's dominant enough when he's pitching, you know,
Starting point is 01:36:55 90 percent of his of his maximum velocity. How would he go about like regulating that and being like, OK, I'm excited to get back out here, but I have to do it smart. Well, I'm sure that he's probably had conversations with the front office and the coaching staff about a pitch count and trying to trying to monitor that monitor his his energy level, his adrenaline. But look, this is this is DeGramme's, you know, eighth or ninth season. So it's not like he's a he's he's fresh out of the out of the draft
Starting point is 01:37:27 and coming off an injury and going to go out there and try and throw the ball as hard as he physically can. And DeGramme is a he's a biomechanical freak. Like he's a guy who is basically just built in a lab and in. Just built to pitch. If you if you look at his body and the way he moves, he's like he's like Zack Wheeler. They're they're extremely mobile. They're they're muscular, they're long and lanky.
Starting point is 01:37:54 And they, you know, hopefully he can sustain that adrenaline and not not be not be harmed by it. I don't think he will. I think he has a low heart rate. He knows how to control that. And I think he's going to be fine. But but I'm sure that conversation has been had amongst him, the coaching staff and the front office. I always like calling a player freak.
Starting point is 01:38:16 I like that whenever I hear like this guy, this guy's freak. I'm like, wow, that's dangerous. So yeah, who are your top three freaks in Major League Baseball right now? Oh, it's good because it segues to a question I had new segment freak me out. Yeah, I have one freak that I'll give you after. So you do three and I'll give you a fourth. All right. So so I got to go with DeGramme. And look, I've blown the guy for years.
Starting point is 01:38:37 I just think he's the best and I've said this. I think he's the best starting pitcher to ever put the uniform on if he stays healthy. People might some people might think that's crazy. Some people love it. I just watching him, you know, live and on TV. He came out of a game. We were playing them.
Starting point is 01:38:55 I was with Philly. He struck out nine out of 10 and he had a little shoulder tweak in the fourth or fifth inning, but is the best shit I've ever seen ever from any, any pitcher. So he's one. And then, man, it's like flip a coin. I don't want to pick two from the same team, but you got Stanton and in judge. I don't know. So let's just pick.
Starting point is 01:39:17 Let's let's make them two, two A and two B. And then I think I think Trey Turner. I'm going to say Trey Turner just because he popped in my head just with his ability to hit for power, his defense and his base run. Five. All right. So I got the fourth freak for you and I want your take on him because we're we're the number one podcast for this guy. I'll set it up with someone told me that I trust who has, you know,
Starting point is 01:39:44 good baseball knowledge said that there's a five point five percent chance he could end up being the best baseball player of all time, which is a crazy thing to say, but it's also a half a percent, right? Is it Julio? No, O'Neill Cruz. He's a freak. It's a crazy thing to say, but it also makes you like that. Think about it. You're like, oh, fuck, I got to I got to pay attention. That's that's a nice call.
Starting point is 01:40:11 And didn't he I remember seeing him in the minor leagues and didn't he struggle for a couple of years, which which is totally fine to do. It's normal. But I remember seeing him like in triple A a year or two ago and he wasn't having great years and then all of a sudden, like sometimes shit just clicks and I didn't realize this kid was six foot seven. Yes, he's a freak. Is it true? Is it true that he runs like Tyreek Hill?
Starting point is 01:40:33 Is that true? He's so fast. And then I the the the thing that like made me be like, what the fuck? They were playing the Cubs and he threw from shortstop to first base. They tracked it. It was like, I think it was like 97. Yeah. And then he also has power. And it's like, who is this guy? He's got big power. He's got big power.
Starting point is 01:40:51 I saw I saw him hit a ball out to right center field in PNC. They almost went out of the stadium like that. You know, you see guys hit balls in the waters like dead, pulled down the line. But you don't see a ball go out of the stadium in right center field. So that's that special. I told I was telling a lot of people this. He's the best player the Pirates have had since Andrew McCutcheon. And, you know, and not every team can be top of the division,
Starting point is 01:41:20 especially, you know, in the, you know, central, you got to deal with the Brewers and you got to deal with the Cardinals. So he is a freak and maybe he's going to end up, I hate to say it, but like a guy like Joey Vado, who ends up just kind of rotting away in Cincinnati. It has a Hall of Fame career, but never gets to play in the postseason. Yeah. That would be a very big bummer. How would you rate Frank Schwindel in terms of his freakiness on the mound, just as a pitcher? Well, I don't really like seeing position players out there on the mound anymore
Starting point is 01:41:55 because they all just kind of lob it in there. Yeah, like they're all kind of scared that they're going to hit somebody or they can't throw strikes and they talk a lot of shit when, you know, they're not on the mound like, oh, you know, I got a slider. I can, I can, you know, change speeds. Like I got a little cutter like bullshit. We see the guys get out there and they're lobbing in at 42 miles an hour. So I don't like it.
Starting point is 01:42:18 I don't. Yeah. I don't like his ability on the mound. I like his I like his unorthodox swing because man, the guy can really hit a heater, but I don't want to see him pitch. All right. Do we get your can we get your midseason? By the way, everyone should listen to Starting 9 with Carl and Jake. Two episodes a week. Great. It's it's a great, great baseball podcast. Do we have your World Series pick?
Starting point is 01:42:39 Because I'm sure you gave one before the season, but we're going to give you a second chance. Do it right now. We'll just say this is your pick and you can be right. And we'll give you all the credit in the world. Well, so this is my pick. I like a subway series. Yes. I like the New York Mets against the New York Yankees. I think with the Grom insurers are back at 100 percent. I think the Mets find a way to separate themselves even further
Starting point is 01:43:02 and win that division. And I don't I don't see anybody slowing down the Yankees. I just I just really don't. I want to see judge hit 85 homers this year. Yes. And I want to see Rizzo and Matt Carpenter get a ring along with the rest of those guys. I like that team. I also like the Mets, you know, Colin, our producer is a diehard Mets fan.
Starting point is 01:43:24 I know he's probably going to be pissed at me when he hears me say I want to see the Yankees get a ring. But just seeing a subway series, I think it's good for the game of baseball. Obviously, it's good for, you know, the Northeast and New York in particular. So that's my pick. And it's good for me. I bet it 14 to one two months ago.
Starting point is 01:43:40 Oh, you're good on that. Yeah, that's famous last words. Do you want to see the Yankees get a ring because just like it would be good for baseball for the Yankees to win another World Series? Are you just saying? Are you just saying that because you've got friends like I want them to win? Yeah, you know, with with what happened to Carpenter, like he decided to play another season.
Starting point is 01:43:59 He was with Texas. He opted out. He goes to the Yankees and it ends up hitting, you know, six or seven homers in like two weeks. You got to pull for Rizzo. My son, Cooper, got to meet judge at the All-Star Game. And now it's his new favorite player. Just, you know, I like those guys. I like Eric Cole, you know, Zach Britton. He's not pitching right now, but he's one of my boys.
Starting point is 01:44:21 So I like that clubhouse, but I also like the Mets. So if both of those teams get there, let the best team win and I'll be happy. It'd be great for Barstool content because we've got a lot of Yankees and Mets fans running around here. So it'd be crazy, man. It would be crazy. All right. I had one last question. Thank you for joining us, Jake, on short notice. For sure. Roback question. Go to RHOBACK.com.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Use code TAKE for 20% off your first purchase. Q-zips, hoodies, polos, everything. Roback.com. 20% off your first purchase with code TAKE. All right. This is the dumbest question you'll probably ever get. But I, we like dumb rules in on this show. I don't know if you saw, but I threw out the first pitch at the Sag Harbor Whalers game on Friday. No big deal. They won a championship today. So some are saying it's because I gave a speech to the team.
Starting point is 01:45:13 I've been a diehard Sag Harbor Whalers fan since Friday and they won a championship three days later. Here's a dumb rule and you can tell me this is the dumbest rule ever. The first pitch should count. It should count as a ball and strike. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. How great would that be though? It's like, so the home team always gets to pick the first pitcher and like someone will like air mail. It's like, so the first batter gets up there and it's a 1-0 count.
Starting point is 01:45:41 The first pitch should count. Now where'd you come up with that? I just thought of it when I did, I threw it so fast, Jake. It was like 92 miles an hour, but it was no way out of the zone. Got catcher, made me look good. He gave a little hop up. I was like, you know what, that should be a ball for the Sag Harbor Whalers. Like I fucked up. The first pitch should count. Well, I mean, it would add a little bit more pressure into the situation.
Starting point is 01:46:05 The guy throwing it, like the guys in the dugout. Hey, motherfucker, like you, this needs to be over the plate. Right. But so you have to, I would assume that you're saying that you have to throw it from the rubber. None of that front of the mountain bullshit. Have to throw it from the rubber. It's it's one of those things where it wouldn't actually probably change any outcomes of the game because it's one pitch. It's inconsequential,
Starting point is 01:46:28 but it would add a fun wrinkle of like, well, who is it? Sydney Sweeney throughout the first pitch, Hank, you were saying the other day. Like that should count. Yeah. Like 50 cent, throwing it a million feet to the left. That should count. That should be all one. Yeah. Was it a quarterback that like hit the camera, dude, in the nuts? Oh, yeah. Who was that? There's a football player just right in the house.
Starting point is 01:46:48 She is wearing him up. It should count. It would be a lecture. Like think about how great George Bush's first pitch would have been if it counted as one. Yeah, that's straight one on the batter. Yeah. And he exactly. And then you got Nolan Ryan and thrown at 92 at 60 miles an hour. And I think each row did the same thing. Didn't you throw a full uniform? Full uniform. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:08 I mean, he just wants to keep playing baseball forever. But you tell me, I mean, like it's dumb when you think about it, but then you start talking about it. Like how fun would it be? First pitch would have a lot more meaning. First pitch. It'd be fun. It'd be fun to bet on too. Yeah. I'm with you.
Starting point is 01:47:23 They would just have players do it. They would just be like, they are. Our picture that retired last year. Yeah, rules that you can't have. You can't have anyone who played baseball at a professional level. But hey, but think about this, though, even if it's a former player, like that doesn't guarantee a strike. True. True. That's true.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Shit ton of first pitch balls in my career. Yeah. Here's another dumb rule. Have you ever considered just like not having a catcher for the first two strikes that you have? So it's just the umpire. And you get another player out in the field because you get nine players still. So you put another guy like in between shortstop and second base. And then you just say you're just throwing it directly at the umpire. Directly at the umpire because you don't need to catch her for that pitch.
Starting point is 01:48:01 If there's nobody on base. I don't think the umpires would would go for that, man. I mean, I think they're going to need their salary to go up a tick. Probably not. It would be. It's a funny thing to imagine, though, just like imagine Joe West just getting hit in his neck on a first pitch fastball. Great. Right. Right. He's got like that turkey gobbler.
Starting point is 01:48:20 He's got a nice old chin protector. Nice man. Nice. Nice man. But he's got a lot of neck skin. I like that. Nice man. Fat fuck. Nice man. A lot of. I have another dumb question about about this year because we it seems about like two weeks from now, there will be a story that comes out about the balls. Like the balls have changed over the course of the year. How what where are we at on the balls and how they've performed this year?
Starting point is 01:48:46 It's a giant conspiracy, man. It's a huge conspiracy. But what what pitchers don't like is when balls are just taken out of the wrapper and put in the put in the ball bag. And I know there's this in the rule book. It says balls are supposed to be rubbed up by a team employee like a certain amount of time before the game. And and each ball takes 45 seconds in this amount of mud. Like, who knows if it's if they're actually following those rules.
Starting point is 01:49:11 You got a clubby that's sitting back there with a dip in and probably hung over and just like, here you go, a little bit of mud. And then he might skip a few and then like it's it's inconsistent. And you saw when to para, he's, you know, reliever for the angels, I believe, at the time. And he's just like, he gets a ball from the umpire. He's pitching against Seattle. Nope, throws it out, gets another one. No, throws it out.
Starting point is 01:49:35 He's like, these fucking balls aren't rubbed up. So that's that's what pitchers don't like. And my only thing is like, if they're changing the balls with the way that they fly and more drag, less drag, just let the players know because we don't we don't really care. Just be transparent about it. That's all that's all we all we ask. Yeah, that makes sense. All right. Well, Jake, thank you.
Starting point is 01:49:55 You got to come up to New York. If there's a subway series, you got to be here for every game. But I don't know about it. We got to get you in the office in the mix, but we appreciate you coming on. Everyone go listen to Starting 9 with Carl. Appreciate it. We'll see you soon. All right, boys. Good seeing you. Thanks for having me on. Jake was brought to you by our great friends over at Helix Sleep.
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Starting point is 01:51:52 OK, we're going to wrap up the show. We got a show announcement, kind of a bittersweet one, actually bitter, but we do well, no, it is it's sad, but we we do know that people are very invested in us as a podcast and we're a family. So we wanted to talk about it so that people can hear it from us instead of being like what happened. So Hank, do you want to take it away? Or this is more, you know, kind of my world behind the scenes stuff.
Starting point is 01:52:22 Liam, obviously, was the first first intern we hired him and Billy was like the content intern. Liam was the behind the scenes intern to help me. And he's been with us the whole time and been riding riding by my side through the fires, through the ups and downs, highs and lows. Yeah, and I don't even really that's where it's like it's obviously complicated because there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes. And it's not really that big a deal.
Starting point is 01:52:46 It's not a huge. That's why I was laughing earlier when you were like huge announcements. It's not really like a huge announcement. It's more just kind of we're just switching things around, basically. Like Liam's going to be switching in the video department to more like what his skill set is, more what he's suited to. Obviously, when I switched roles, he kind of took over what my role was in terms of show stuff and more of like the, I guess, organization and kind of
Starting point is 01:53:10 like administrative stuff with the podcast and less of like the editing and all that stuff. And we're basically just bringing in someone else to kind of do that. And Liam's going to still be doing, still be doing the pick up, still be doing advisors, still be working with us on various shows, but just kind of staying in that more like editing produce, like editing graphics type role. And we're bringing on someone else to do the administrative stuff.
Starting point is 01:53:37 I'm going to miss Bubba. Bubba's a great guy. Wait, no, it's not about Liam. Huh? No, we're talking about Liam. What do you mean? Bubba's staying. Bubba's staying.
Starting point is 01:53:45 No, I just know that some people are going to be like, wait, what? Who's Liam and who's Bubba? You just confused the shit out of me. But they're the same person everyone knows. I'm going to miss Bubba. I'm going to miss him. I love, he's a guy that has an infectious laugh. So no matter what happens, if somebody says something remotely funny,
Starting point is 01:54:00 Liam laughs and then everybody else laughs. And you have to have a guy like that in the room. It just helps everybody out. Good guy. Love you, Bubba. We'll still be working with you on some other stuff. I'm sure no one can fill those shoes. I say we get another guy who's colorblind.
Starting point is 01:54:15 Well, so here's the thing is we part of the thing that Hank didn't mention here is that when Billy was suspended, he did come back and, you know, he did his own interviews during a suspension. He learned premiere. So Billy's now going to be the producer and Billy's going to feel the role of what Bubba's been doing. Because you did say you were an incredible premiere, right? I never said that.
Starting point is 01:54:38 No, you said that you learned premiere. I learned. I learned. I was making a switch. So you're the producer now. You told me you were proficient at premiere. Yeah. Come on, guys.
Starting point is 01:54:47 So you're going to do all the editing. No, no, you should do it for. OK, we'll give you a two week trial period. We have to edit every show for two weeks. It's a great opportunity. And then if you don't like it, you don't have to keep doing it. But if you do like it, then I feel like this is a nice way for you to be like more active and hands on with the show.
Starting point is 01:55:06 Is this real? I'll do it. No, I'll do it for we actually when we when we when Hank PFT and I were talking a couple weeks ago, we're like, we should just do a hidden camera and tell Billy that because he's so good at premiere, he has to produce the whole show now and watch you freak out. Wait, do you actually cut the recording in premiere or do you use another? OK, this is Billy.
Starting point is 01:55:28 We're joking. You're not actually doing it. All right. So what I got to say in the end, Bob is going to get to talk here and in and talk to the AWLs. I love Liam. I, you know, he is been a guy with us who's been with us for pretty much the entire time.
Starting point is 01:55:43 What I'll say for on Liam's behalf, this job is not easy and the burnout is real. And like when people see us here till two in the morning on a Sunday, Liam's here till fucking six in the morning on a Sunday. And I think there's an element of like it's just a lot, a lot of really long hours and a lot of demanding moments. And he's always come through. And I think this is going to be good for everyone.
Starting point is 01:56:11 Again, he's not going anywhere. He's going to produce Pickham, you know, which I'm on. He's going to produce advisors like he's not going anywhere. He's going to be still around. But I do think that like there's a part of this where it's almost natural where it's like the burnout is crazy and I want him to have his life back too. So we will have someone new coming on Wednesday. We'll introduce him.
Starting point is 01:56:33 We'll fill everyone in on it. But Bubba, whatever you want to say, I mean, we love you. It's there is there are no hard feelings here. We've had long talks about it. And I think we're all on the same page, but you are a big part of the show and have been a big part of the show. So we wanted to make sure you get the proper send off. Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:56:50 I do just want to say as well, like falling up on that. Like there's no hard feelings like whatsoever about it. Like Hank had wanted to do things differently, essentially. And basically, besides like my fucking like parents putting a roof over my head, like nobody has done more for me than like everybody in this room in my life, essentially. If I had had regrets, like things would be different. But it's like, I'm very proud of all the work that I've done, like for part of my take and everything over the past five years.
Starting point is 01:57:18 And like you guys are all like family to me. And I'm still going to be around. And so just like basically in a better spot to like use my skill set to succeed. And Big Cat, like you had said as well, too, like I couldn't have worked until four am the rest of my life. So at some at some point is I was not going to be able to do that. Correct. And so this is basically a good time to transition into something different.
Starting point is 01:57:51 And you're going to still be around us and we're going to see you every day. And like I said, like there's not it's not a goodbye. It's just, you know, a switch. And I'm pumped for you to not have to sit in a cave with us every Sunday for 17 hours because I like we get to make jokes and you would have to sit there and listen and then edit it. I always was like, holy fuck, how are you guys doing this? I think too, like part of it and like, I guess more just going to like the little
Starting point is 01:58:16 more like explanation or like it's like it was obviously like forever. It was like kind of me being on top of everything. And then like Liam was helping me out and then, but I'm still here kind of. And there was just like, I guess not. It was it was just a weird, it was a different dynamic. And this is just more like a clear role change where it's like very like the rules are defined. It's a new person that's coming in like knows exactly like what, what kind of
Starting point is 01:58:39 it's just more like split in and like makes everything a little bit like, again, like more defined and Liam is still going to be doing what he's doing just in a different department. I think this is going to be very, you're going to be very, very happy in a couple of weeks and be like, oh, shit, this kicks ass. Yeah, we're just not having to work on Sundays. Those hours are not sustainable for anybody. So thank you for doing it.
Starting point is 01:58:58 As long as you did, you did a great job and we love you. You were a huge part of this podcast growing to where it is today. Huge part like this. We're here because like you said, you know, giving us a compliment, like it goes the other way. We're as a podcast to where we are because you took risks in your life to, you know, you, you got dropped out of college. He was like, Hey, I'm not going to go back to college.
Starting point is 01:59:20 I was like, Hey, we can't pay you. And he's like, I'm still going to drop out. I was like, OK, but like we can't pay you. No, as a full-time employee for like six months, I think. I remember when Liam told me that and I was like, that's a ballsy thing. But like, yeah, you know, like this is what the sacrifice. I would never go back to college. So I'm not going to tell you to.
Starting point is 01:59:38 If you want to drop out like that, we would I would love to have you around because I need your help, but like we can't pay you. And it also speaks to like a lot of people, you know, want to be, you know, work at Parstall or be a part of this show. And like Liam is the perfect testament of like what the sacrifices he had to make in his life in like dropping out of college, like working really late every night, like all these things. He made a ton of sacrifices to get where he is.
Starting point is 02:00:06 And now in a weird way, he's getting rewarded in some parts of his life. We're going to change him for the better. And we'll see cars more easily under commute home. Well, that was my last question. It's a robot question. It's a robot question. Robac.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com. Yeah, well, I wanted to send him out with a robot question.
Starting point is 02:00:25 Go ahead. You didn't actually get hit by a car, right? I did. I was just, I was also going to say for the... I'd be great if you're like, yeah, I paid that whole thing up, guys. Yeah, no, no. That was all made up. I got crossed over real bad at the park. Just a Friday night prank. No, the, definitely you guys like having faith in me and everything led me to be able to like take those types of chances.
Starting point is 02:00:46 And so just for anybody who wants to think about how much Barstall Van Talk sucked, when I dropped out of college to work on that and then I got canceled a week later. Yeah, that's right. He's totally... So it did suck for me a little bit, too. Yeah, that was like a galvanizing moment for us. Like all getting to experience that sucked together will always have, like being in the worst, like most, like down of places.
Starting point is 02:01:07 And then growing out of that altogether is one. Like we are going to miss you on the show a lot. Yeah, just getting shot to J-MO after being like this sucks. Yeah. Yeah. And I got so high and I got lost in that Call of Duty commercial. I used to tell, like we used to, I mean, back, I mean, again, like one day the whole Barstall Van Talk story would come out, but there was months and months of before it got announced
Starting point is 02:01:27 where like we would talk and you guys were like feeling good about it and then you guys would leave. I'm like, there's no fucking way it's going to happen. Like it's all going to fall apart, like blah, blah, blah, blah. And like I was just always like, dude, like it's just we're going to get fucked. Like it's just not going to, it's not never going to come out. And then it like came out and it was like public. It's like, we're doing the show and then it got canceled.
Starting point is 02:01:43 And I was like, yeah. And Liam took the risk and then that got canceled in his face. Last, last thing, did you and Jake ever squash your beef? Because I know he said that he hated you. And he was like, good. That's why I lean wanted to leave. Yeah, no, it was that was the real behind the scenes thing. Not, not, not what happened.
Starting point is 02:02:01 That wrong good terms now. OK, so you're, but you're like, you're like the Lannisters. You just got rid of another one. Yeah, now now Billy's on the block. He's still best in the office. Look out, Billy. No, but yeah, pick him will be great because he's going to, you know, Liam's going to be dedicated to that and advisors and everything else.
Starting point is 02:02:19 So again, he's not going anywhere. We know where he sits. He's going to be around us all the time. But thank you from the bottom of my heart, from the bottom of all of our hearts for everything you've done for this show. And shout out your dad. He's the fucking man. He's the epitome of your mom and your mom.
Starting point is 02:02:34 But every time. No, but every time Bubba tells a story about his dad, it's like a total dudes rock moment. So yeah, no, he loves us, right? I think I'll still listen. Yeah, no, you'll have to. You'll have to. Whenever he does something that's dude rocks, you got to come and tell. Yeah, I'll fill it in.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Yes. And until then, continue to tag Bubba and all the dingers that you see the massive ones. Yes, yes. Absolutely. OK, and also, you know, send them colors to to try to decide. Pantone check. Yeah. Again, I think you will be like there will be times when you'll, you know, we're going to have to have you check in. And I do want to hear stories when your dad does dudes rocks things.
Starting point is 02:03:08 Yeah, no, I'm always around. Yeah. All right. Numbers. This would be cool if you got it. But no pressure. Five. Watch Hank steal the moment. 80 corporate. Hank strikes again. Twenty six.
Starting point is 02:03:24 What would your backup number be, Bubba, if you had one? I don't know, nine. All right, I guess. Bill Russell. No, six. All right, so I guess nine is the backup. Well, Billy. No, I guess 11 for you. Backup Mounted Championships.
Starting point is 02:03:39 Yeah, right. That's what I meant. Oh, do it for Bill. Eleven. Oh, my God. Was it there? Sixty eight. Oh, my God. It's tough break. Bubba, you want to do the honors?
Starting point is 02:03:59 Love you guys. Emu's once beat the Australian army in a war. You see that emu on the dog? Yeah. Do you see what's name? Was that emu? No. A manual. The manual is an emu. Is he an emu? That guy was fucking awesome.
Starting point is 02:04:16 Did you see the emu? That's a wide receiver talking about football being back. I'll send you a video. It's awesome. By the way. Oh, yeah. When he made that quick cut down the sideline on that dog. Yeah. By the way, a quick correction. OK. I don't actually.
Starting point is 02:04:29 There's no premiere. There's now day. I figured out how to edit and export something on a career. It's it's pretty hard. Yeah, but I figured out. I'm not saying I'm anywhere close to anywhere with these guys who do, but. Also, I was I was going to unfollow PMT
Starting point is 02:04:44 to then see how long it took memes to figure out. No, I was like, it would probably be like under over twenty four hours. So there's day trips to Antarctica that you don't have to get your spleen removed. I knew it. That's plain appendix. Oh, yeah. Appendix. OK, so correction.
Starting point is 02:05:01 But if you stay there over the winter, you have to get it done. Right. That makes sense. Nice correction. Who's taking a fucking day trip to Antarctica? It turns out there's a day trip from like Patagonia, Brazil. Oh, yeah. That's the one I was afraid I was going to have to go on one day. Yeah, it's not even like real Antarctica. OK, Bubba again.
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