Pardon My Take - Jake Arrieta, Mt Rushmore Of Training Camp Cliches Plus 2 Show Announcements For The Future
Episode Date: August 1, 2022Football is back again. We talk some story lines from the last week plus Breaking News on a show announcement and our new Pardon My Cheesesteak brand. (00:02:51-00:27:03) Mt Rushmore of training camp ...cliches. (00:27:04-00:47:09) Who's back of the week including celebrities flying PJ's and Tony Pizza. (00:48:21-01:09:53) Jake Arrieta joins the show to talk about MLB trade deadline, where Soto will end up, Owners not ponying up, and a very dumb baseball idea. (01:10:50-01:49:53) We finish with a show announcement for the future. (01:51:33-02:05:07)You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake
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On today's pardon my take,
we have our good friend Jake Arietta
to get us hyped for baseball trade deadline,
which is coming up on Tuesday.
The hot stove.
The hot, no, the hot stove's December.
What's the, what's the trade deadline?
It's just always hot stove.
It's always a hot stove.
It's the hot stove.
Buyers or sellers.
They love, baseball writers love talking about that.
Well, you know, back in the day,
like Abner Doubleday just used to stand by a stove
and talk about trades.
Well, what it was was the old water cooler.
That's what the hot stove was.
Hot stove.
People would gather around the stove for warmth.
Yeah, so we got that.
We have Mount Rushmore of training camp cliches
because we are balls deep in training camp right now.
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Today is Monday, August 1st.
And I wanted to quote one of the world's greatest philosophers
when I say, man, I love football.
The boys got going yesterday and it's all love.
First day of pads, just pushing each other to be great.
That is all.
And that is from our good friend Josh Allen
after a little skirmish and Buffalo.
We are, that tweet hyped me up so much.
I was like, yes, training camp, football,
August, it's hot.
Listen, breaking news, football is fucking back
because the Hall of Fame game is on Thursday.
This is our first week.
I have a pep in my step.
I'm bright-eyed, I'm bushy-tailed.
We just talked about our hard knocks plans.
We're going to be on grit week next week
and we're going to have to figure out
where to watch hard knocks.
This is it.
So I'm going to be so disappointed
at about like 10 p.m. Thursday night
once I remember, oh yeah, the Hall of Fame game stinks.
But I'm so excited this week.
I'm already talking myself into the storylines.
I'm building up like, this is a rivalry game.
The Jaguars, the Raiders,
Josh McDaniels.
A lot of history between those two franchises.
Josh McDaniels and Doug Peterson, Super Bowl rematch.
They've got that bad blood.
Damn.
I actually, we've talked about this.
When you get to this time of the year,
you start daydreaming about things.
I can't remember what I was listening to,
but I was like, I think I might sell myself
on the Jaguars this year,
like take their win total over
just by Urban Meyer not being there.
Like I think it was because I read a quote was like,
someone was like, yeah, it's a lot different.
Yeah.
Josh Allen actually said it.
The other Josh Allen was like, yeah,
it's a lot more professional.
It's a lot different.
I think the Jaguars are going to get a bounce
just by not having that fucking asshole
around finger of the year.
Mm-hmm.
And what else do you win?
He won, was it?
B for the year.
B for the year.
Urban Meyer versus accountability.
Accountability.
Yeah.
Two-time taking award winner is out.
And yeah, I think I'm going to buy the Jaguars.
I'm calling my shot right now.
Doug Peterson is going to look sick
in the Jaguars visor.
Yes.
That is a visor town.
I think like if you could pick one place
for a visor coach to go,
he's going to fit right in in Jacksonville.
Yes.
Josh McDaniels is going to look a little bit weird,
I think, in the Raiders colors.
We'll get used to it after a while,
but Doug Peterson, like a duck in water
down in Northern Florida.
Yes.
Hell yes.
And we're going to do the Mount Rushmore
of training camp cliches,
storyline cliches in a minute here,
which is going to be great
because it gets you even more pumped up for football.
Mm-hmm.
Oh.
Breaking moves.
Is this one of the big show announcements?
This is one of the big shows.
The Russell Dye.
This is the big show announcement.
Oh, shit.
Goddammit, Hank.
This is what I was alluding to on Friday.
Now, Russ and Peaceville,
Russell's very severed doing it.
By the way, we should just say.
Russ and Peaceville, Russell, legend.
He's one of those rare cases where it's like,
when people say, as good as he was as a player,
11 championships, he was a better human.
And you're like, yeah, actually, that's understated.
He might be the most Mount Rushmore-able
professional basketball player of all time,
like on various Mount Rushmores.
Yeah.
As far as what he did, obviously, for the Celtics,
he's maybe the most clutch postseason player of all time.
He was 10 and 0 in elimination games in the playoffs.
Crazy.
I'll read that.
This is just the first sentence.
Obviously, it went into a long list of his accomplishments.
We have the real breaking news in a minute, yeah.
But yeah, it was with a very heavy heart.
We would like to pass along to all of Bill's friends,
fans and followers.
And then it said, Bill Russell, the most prolific winner
in American sports history.
How incredible.
And that's a fact.
It's not really debatable, either.
Are we in the trustry to say something real quick?
I don't know.
A couple things.
One is, shout out to us as a podcast,
because we did have the Takies last week,
and we were thinking about who we should give
the Tommy LaSorta still alive person of the year
in Memoriam of John Madden.
And Bill Russell's name came up and we were like,
you know what?
No.
Because no, that would be bad if he died.
And he did.
And he's a legendary human.
And we'd rather have the queen die.
Yes.
I think we all would.
Yeah, we put the whammy on the queen.
Yeah.
Why couldn't it have been the queen?
It should have been her.
It was the first black coach in NBA history.
Yes.
It wasn't Emao Doka.
No, no.
That's Jay Williams probably was like,
fuck, I'm going to trend again.
And he also had 40 rebounds in an NBA finals game,
which is insane.
Yes.
The other trustry thing I wanted to just point out
that I was, I didn't tweet because I'm a respectful human,
but the timing of Dana Beers becoming Dana Vodka Waters
and Bill Russell passing away,
it was almost minutes after.
So I know that Bill Russell was a huge Dana Beers fan.
And you have to think that that had something to do with it.
I'm sure he was very disappointed.
It broke his heart.
Yes.
Yes.
The whole world was upset about Dana Beers becoming,
what a fucking pussy that guy is.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.
We should have to change all his names.
Just be like, oh yeah, Dana Vodka Soda's now.
Get out of here.
That's going to make a difference.
Yeah.
I was reading a list of Bill Russell's accomplishments
earlier today.
And they were all just unreal, including winning the presidential
Medal of Freedom and all that stuff.
And then they also tapped on the list.
They also hosted an episode of Saturday Night Live in 1979.
And you might think that that's kind of out of place
considering the rest of the things on this list.
SNL was fucking funny in 1979.
That is a big deal.
But I mean, yeah, he's a legendary human,
legendary basketball player, but legendary human first.
Like I said, it's the rare case
when everyone does the lip service of like,
as good of a player, he's a better person.
Bill Russell, that is probably like 100 times X.
Like what he did for the world,
for black people, for everyone.
Like it's incredible.
Retire's number.
Yeah.
All across the league.
Oh, I like that.
He's got the MVP trophy, right?
Yeah.
So yeah, I agree.
Retire's number.
Yes.
Good call, Hank.
But what I was saying before that,
what I was alluding to on Friday.
We just hijacked our own announcement.
But listen, that's perspective.
That's what Bill Russell didn't like.
Bill Russell didn't sign autographs.
You know why?
Because he thought athletes shouldn't be looked up to as heroes.
He thought the real heroes are the people out there
like the teachers, the firefighters, and the podcasters.
And one last thing about Bill Russell.
You can tell like what a person means to everyone when,
like, you know, people die all the time.
But the fact that like everyone who has ever meant anything
to basketball or civil rights had something to say almost
instantly tells you what type of person it was.
Like, you know, Jordan and Barkley,
all these people just come in like instantly.
It's like, oh yeah.
He meant that much to that many people.
Yeah.
I don't think he's an actually guy either.
I don't think anybody has had to take like, actually,
Bill Russell.
No.
It just suddenly.
Yeah, he'll go on there and be like,
well, he played against Bob Cousy.
So.
He played with Bob Cousy.
Yeah, played with Bob.
How good could he be?
Okay.
RIP Bill Russell.
Moment of silence.
Okay.
All right.
Live a great life.
88 is a great life.
Yeah.
We're going to do it.
But yeah, anyway, the what I was alluding to on Friday,
the big announcement, something we've been working on a long
time behind the scenes, very excited about it.
It's big, you know, opportunity for us,
big opportunity for the AWLs.
We're come, we're, we're, what are we?
We're, we're.
Seven years old.
We're food.
We're part of my cheesesteak.
What?
Huh?
And you, yeah.
What is that?
What is that?
What is part of my cheesesteak?
Oh yeah.
I'll explain it to you.
Let me explain it to you.
Part of my cheesesteak.
That doesn't even make sense.
In a World Cup only restaurant brand bringing you craveable
cheesesteaks and loaded fries when we say that we tested
everything, we tested everything, we perfected it.
We made it exactly what we think our fans want.
You get cheesesteaks.
You can get Buffalo chicken, cheese steaks, you can get fries,
loaded fries, brownie bites.
Chipotle cheese steaks.
And it's everywhere 200 locations it is one plus.
Plus.
Coming.
It goes kitchen.
So I, I just looked at the list.
Shout out, yes, Honolulu.
You can get part of my cheesesteak.
It's everywhere, literally everywhere across the country.
If you have a phone, you have access
to a part of my cheesesteak.
That's what we're getting.
And we did actually taste test it
and gave notes on that we were like,
you know what, this could be tastier.
Yes.
And they said, okay, we'll make it tastier.
Yes, and so go to partofmycheesesteak.com
to learn more and you can order on DoorDash,
Uber Eats, Postmates, or Grubhub.
And here's the big thing.
This does actually just go to us.
So like, congratulations.
We sold out, guys.
Yes, yes.
Hey, big cat.
Congratulations.
Yes, this is the Wayne's World moment
where we're doing the ads, but like, you know,
if you like us and you want to support us,
get part of my cheesesteaks.
We do think they are very, very good.
It's good food and it's perfect for football season.
Simple menu.
But it's, again, it's like, when you eat it,
when you take a bite of it,
just know it's cha-ching for us,
which is you love us, right?
The cheesesteaks are legitimately delicious.
They're awesome.
We've been eating them nonstop for the past couple of months.
We've had a ton of people that tag us on Twitter
being like, yo, somebody's ripping you guys off.
We haven't been able to talk about it yet,
but I have had several friends.
Who's the weirdest person?
That told me that I was getting ripped off.
Yeah.
My aunt's ex-boyfriend.
Okay.
Oh, Buddha Ben.
Nice.
Yeah.
I had Rasello hit me up.
What?
I was like, dude, you ordered some late night cheesesteaks?
Or maybe it's just like,
maybe there was like a targeted ad
just because he's so obsessed with us
and then they were feeding him part of my cheesesteak ads.
Maybe he just throws out the bread,
which you can do and just eat the steak
if you want just gains.
So a fun fact about these cheesesteaks
is Billy hand kills every cow
that goes into the part of my cheesesteaks.
He strangles them to death with his bare hands.
So you're getting certified Billy-treated meat.
It's beautiful.
It's like kosher, but a little different.
Yeah, it's brochure.
But nothing like it.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
But yeah, we're very excited for it.
We really do think these are great.
It's great food, affordable.
It's not, we're not gonna jack up the price on everyone.
Maybe we should though.
It's football food.
We should do like,
we should at some point sell like the gold cheesesteaks
where they put like a little flake of gold in it.
We sell it for like $7,000.
Cause then we can have like all the influencers try it.
Then what we should do is we should jack up the prices
after like a month.
And then everyone's like, well, look at,
look at what's happening to these cheesesteaks.
They must be delicious.
Yeah.
Everybody is, they're in such high demand.
You have to pay $40 for one.
It's crazy.
No, but cheesesteaks are one of my favorite foods
in the entire world.
If you listen to us, you know that we all love cheesesteaks,
especially Jake.
He absolutely can't get enough of the stuff.
But they're very, very good.
We hope you guys like them.
And if you don't like them, who should they blame?
Just don't say anything.
Who should they blame?
No, just don't, you know what?
It's the old, it's the old fashioned.
If you got nothing nice to say, don't say anything.
All right, so just, just keep it to yourself.
But yeah, it has six inch, 12 inch, classic cheesesteak,
chipotle cheesesteak, buffalo chicken cheesesteak,
loaded fries, dessert brownie bites.
It's simple.
So that we did this on purpose.
They have initially came to us
and it was like this long menu.
And we're like, no, we know what our fans want.
They want, let's run the power sweep
and just run it until they can stop it.
It's, we're gonna do four things
and we're gonna fucking crush it
and go to part of my cheesesteak again.com
or you can order on Door Dash, Uber Eats,
Postmates, Grubhub, everywhere.
200 plus locations.
We had some for dinner tonight.
And they're so good.
Yes, yes, and we're pot
and none of us are using the bathroom right now.
So there you go.
Perfect tested.
Anything else Hank?
You'll hear about it some more.
We made some funny videos.
Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of like YouTube advertisements
videos.
If you're watching the YouTube right now,
we'll play, we'll play one of the commercials.
We'll play one of the commercials.
I will retweet people who order it
and say nice things about us.
I will always retweet those compliments.
Billy, you will retweet them.
Billy, I want you on retweet duty.
I will.
I want your fee to just be retweets of these.
I'll smash them.
Okay.
All right, is that, that's it for right now?
That's it.
Part of my cheesesteak, find out more,
find out your location, order them, and thank you.
Yes, thank you to all of our fans.
We love you.
I mean, you just got, you can't be like,
oh shit, they sold out.
You just literally got your seventh takey for AWL.
Yeah, I mean, that was not the time.
You don't think that we planned that?
Let's be honest.
Did you guys really expect us to not sell out ever?
But we just gave you the treat.
Now you gotta pay it back.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Second announcement's gonna come after Jay Carrietta.
So tune in for that.
That's a show announcement.
Before we do the Mount Rushmore,
I wanted to do a quick, just,
I have some training camp story lines.
These are the mind blowing fact that's been on my mind.
Oh.
Hold on, let me pull it up though.
Sorry, I didn't know if one of you guys was gonna do it.
Here, let me do it.
I think I know what it is.
Cause I had a woe written down too.
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I don't know if you heard I burped,
but it was a delicious burp
cause it was a part of my cheese steak burp.
I didn't even know they were advertising with us.
I was gonna bring this up on the show
maybe later in the week,
but I have been, I've been giving a lot of thought
into becoming a watch guy,
but I don't know where to start.
You should.
It's, it-
You have to start now.
It's a good accessory.
No, I'm saying, but like, you have to,
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I'm gonna have to get a couple.
What's the code?
P-M-T?
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Okay.
You wanna do your woe?
Yeah.
P-M-T, do you wanna try and go at the same time?
Yeah, let's say it together, ready?
Is it a person?
Involves a person?
One person?
It involves a fictional person.
Okay, then now it's different.
Okay, are we two woes?
Yeah.
We get a woe off.
Max Holm, his name is John.
Yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
More of a pervert.
It's John Maxwell.
Yeah.
Yeah, Maxwell's a total pervert.
Jack Holm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Jack Holm.
Yeah.
Jack Holm, that's crazy.
Yeah.
No, he's, he was looking extra pervy this weekend.
I saw a couple screen grabs, people were like,
was he playing in like some fake tournament?
Did he win?
Of course he was,
because it was a fake tournament.
Finale went back to back.
Yeah.
Oh, he went back to back?
Yeah, if you can't, if you can't beat Finale,
come on, Max.
For like two bogeys in two weekends.
In two weekends total?
In the past two weekends.
No, Fino, he's dialed in.
Oh, he's dialed in.
Okay, he's playing the best golf of his career.
So remind us to bet on Finale in the next majors,
what you're saying.
Yeah.
He's hot.
Okay, what was your woe?
My woe is on today.
That's right, today, that would be July 31st,
as we're taping it.
This is the day that George Jetson was born on.
Whoa.
In the TV show, The Jetsons.
Whoa.
Whoa.
That is woe.
And if you watch The Jetsons,
we're like journeying throughout our space.
Future.
Coquering other solar.
We have the exact same problems.
We're dealing with the exact same shit
that The Jetsons were dealing with
when it came out in like 1970 or whatever.
Damn.
That is a woe.
Nothing's changed, but woe, George Jetson.
That is a big time.
Welcome to IRF.
Fuck.
Do you want to hear another woe?
Yeah, sure.
Let's just go woes.
Jetsons and Flintstones fan theory.
Your brain is full of woes.
It is.
I just searched for woes.
You walk around just going, whoa.
I'm pretty sure they did some crossover episodes, too.
Yeah, there's a theory that the Flintstones
live in a post-apocalyptic, prehistoric land on Earth
while the Jetsons live in the sky.
So there's been way too much time on Reddit.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I actually like that a lot.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's nuts, right?
Yeah, that is a nuts one.
Not to be horny, but Jane Jetson, she get it.
Put on the list.
OK.
She was a fox.
All right, so I wanted to run down.
You kidding me?
Before we do our Mount Rushmore,
I wanted to just rapid fire go through some actual training
camp storylines that are going on right now and get just,
let's just go quick, hot takes.
First up, Kyler Murray.
It got taken out of his contract.
He doesn't need to study.
Huge win for him.
I think that's even worse now.
Oh, so much worse.
I think it's worse because it's like, OK,
this was such a colossal fuckup and it's so embarrassing
that we're going to coddle you by taking that out.
So now Kyler, Kyler's freed.
Yes.
Kyler, he can do whatever he wants right now.
Yes, yes.
He's completely freed.
Debo Samuel got an extension.
DK got an extension.
DK got paid.
It feels like everyone's getting their extensions, which
is, you know.
Well, the Debo extension, per rap sheet,
he had an all-time tweet when he announced it.
He said, sources, the 49ers and star weapon,
Debo Samuel, not wide receiver weapon,
Debo Samuel, are in agreement on a massive contract extension,
keeping him in San Francisco for the foreseeable future.
The drama is over.
The bridge is rebuilt.
The bridge is rebuilt, guys.
Now, was he a hold-in?
He was a hold-in.
Yeah, he was holding in.
Yes, so there's no drama.
That's my favorite part about these new hold-outs that
are actually hold-ins where the guy shows up.
He just doesn't practice.
Yeah, he's just not happy.
So hold in.
He's there.
He's just not going to practice until you give him
a new contract.
I miss the days of a true hold-out.
I do, too.
I'm not showing up.
Brett Favre not showing up to the last day of training camp.
I miss the old, like, TO hold-outs.
The ones that were, like, really intense,
but had, like, the media staked out outside their house.
Edwarder on the road reporting from some guy's driveway.
That's the kind of hold-out that I want to see.
These kids these days are too cut.
They're soft.
They don't know how to execute a proper hold-out.
You're absolutely right.
Who is the other guy?
Who is the guy who was, like, on Brett Favre's watch?
It was, I mean, Edwarder.
No, I know it was, but it was the other guy.
Edwarder was the best because they'd sent him out
to, like, the sticks of Mississippi,
and he'd just be standing at the end of a dirt road
for, like, seven days at a time, and he'd
just be standing out there getting bit by mosquitoes,
and his face would start to turn red,
and he would sweat in the sun.
And by the end of it, his entire body was just sunburnt.
But it was the lawyer guy, too.
Who was it?
What was the lawyer guy on ESPN?
Cossack?
Maybe?
No.
I don't know.
I just remember.
Park.
Well, Eddie W being in charge of that.
There was another guy who was on,
like, he was, like, best friends with Bus Cook,
and he was always there, too.
This is going to fucking drive me insane.
Jake, you're going to have to try to find it.
Ryan Smith?
No, no, no, no.
He's the legal analyst.
No.
I'm talking, like, we're talking 15 years ago.
Way back in the day.
Come on.
John Barr?
No.
Fuck.
My adjustment.
I think there was another guy.
You're just an adventure lawyer.
Is this, like, here in Lothian, Las Vegas?
No, there was another guy.
They definitely had a legal analyst.
Yeah.
And his name is a s-
There's so many people yelling at their-
His name is escaping me now, and it's going to fucking drive me.
Roger Cossack was a legal analyst, but that's not.
Maybe it is.
It might have been Roger.
Yeah, yeah, it might have been him.
That name sounds familiar.
Yeah, this guy.
Yeah.
He was always on the air when something was happening.
I think he was there, too, yeah.
Yeah.
OK.
All right, so here's some quick other stories.
Two or three were a perfect spiral.
65 yards in the air.
Air yards.
Huge to Tyreek.
So that basically the dolphins are fixed.
That was all they needed was to tweet one of those.
And then right after practice, all the guys on the team
were like, man, this office is going to be fun.
Yeah.
And I agree.
I agree.
I think it's going to be fun either way.
Yeah.
Baker is struggling.
But that's OK.
That's fine.
Sam Darnold is currently winning the battle,
even though I think it's Baker's job.
The Steelers, I don't know what's going on,
because Mitch has the job.
But then there was a report that Mason Rudolph
might be winning the job.
They're just trying to light a fire under Mitch on that one.
Yeah.
And then Kenny's there, too.
So I don't know what's going on,
but I just know that Mike Tomlin will somehow
find a way to get the Steelers to 10 wins.
It's going to be Mitch.
I think it's going to be Mitch this year.
Kenny Pickett waiting in the wings.
Jerry Jones had a great Jerry Jones.
Come back play of the year, Mr. Biskie.
Ooh, I like that.
No, James.
Yeah, it's James.
For sure, James.
Joe Burrow might be, could he be qualifying for it?
He had appendix out.
Appendectomy.
He should.
Yeah, no, he should qualify.
He should, but I don't think he will.
He went back to back.
Didn't he win it last year?
Yeah.
Yes, I think so.
He went back to back.
I'm rooting for that.
I'm going to bet that.
I mean, dude, he got his appendix out.
Probably not even offered.
Yeah, his appendix out.
I don't think that works.
All right, so what we got to do is we got to offer it,
and then we got to make a huge deal about the appendix
to a whole report about how he almost died.
People die.
Yeah, people do die.
No, it's actually like, so last year he tore his ACL.
That's a tough injury to come back from,
but actually having your body explode on you.
That's way worse.
Yeah, people do die.
Go ahead.
Well, fact, you can't go to Antarctica
if you have your appendix.
I don't think you can go up in like a space station
either, right?
Yeah.
That's just that.
Without that can't be true.
No, no, no, because they don't have enough medical technology
down there.
So if it starts to rupture, you're going to die.
Yeah.
Without surgery or antibiotics, more than 50% of people
with the appendix appendicitis die.
Holy shit.
50% kill rate.
It was a big killer back in the day.
Joe Burrow just stared death in the eyes and said,
you better bring your A-game, motherfucker.
50%, again, that's without any doctors or anything.
But 50%, that's crazy.
Do we all still have our appendixes intact here?
As far as I know.
I've got mine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We probably shouldn't go on Grit Week with our appendixes.
Should we get them out so we get some more?
Yeah, we do have that big hike coming up.
Yeah, yeah.
It's true, Everest equivalent.
All right, Jerry Jones decided to,
I love when Jerry Jones inserts himself in any way,
but he basically was, that's you, Bonk.
He basically came out and was like, yeah,
Zeke has to be our feature back.
So he's basically playing coach, which, again,
that's what Jerry Jones is there to do.
Yeah, I love it when Jerry Jones does that.
Mike McCarthy just watches Jerry Jones' latest press
conference.
He's like, well, I have to redo my entire game plan
right now because the real coach stepped in.
Right.
Jerry Jones is basically like, he bought a very expensive boat
and then he's, but he lives in like a place
that's nowhere near water.
He's like, I got to find a way to use this.
He's working remotely.
He spent so much money on Zeke.
And he's like, we have to use him to get my money's worth,
even if it's not the best option.
Yeah, you do.
What do you think Jerry Jones would do if Ezekiel Elliott was
on the bench?
And whoever, Pollard would probably
be starting over him, right?
Yeah.
If Pollard gets a line, share the touches,
he scores 15 touchdowns.
Jerry Jones is still going to be freaking out because he's
like, you need to make my money spin here, buddy.
Do you see the Gardner-Minshew story?
Yeah.
Gardner-Minshew lived in a bus outside of a gym
this off season.
He connected the bus to the gym's electricity
to power his fridge, AC, and cooking station.
He used the gym's bathroom all summer
and showered out in the open wearing compression shorts.
I don't know why they included the last line of that
into the headline story.
Because he definitely didn't.
Yeah, he definitely showered outside nude.
Because you can also shower in the gym's bathroom.
They have a shower there too.
Yeah, but he had to, you know, he
did a grit summer.
And then speaking of grit, the last one I had
was just a reminder that the Lions are hard knocks.
So Dan Campbell's going to be awesome.
Yep.
I also saw that Lions players are now
signing kneecaps, which is great.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
Dan Campbell was, he was doing up downs and pushups
with the guys.
Yep.
Lions, Lions should get comeback franchise of the year.
If they win like six games, we need to grade that.
We need to grade that on a scale.
Like Dan can, in fact, let's start
having the conversation right now.
Dan Campbell, coach of the year.
Yes.
If they win five games, give it to him.
Doug Peterson might as well.
Yeah.
Actually, Urban Meyer should win it.
If the Jaguars win eight games, Urban Meyer
should win Coach of the Year by getting fired.
He made the Jaguars good.
And yeah, if he doesn't finger a 21-year-old's butthole
this year, you can say, like, that's
a step in the right direction.
Yes, good job, Urban Meyer.
OK, so that was a little appetizer to our Mount Rushmore.
We're going to do the Mount Rushmore of training camp
cliches, cliche storylines.
Who won the last one?
I didn't check.
I didn't either.
Not us.
We were on vacation.
It wasn't Jake?
I was on vacation.
Oh, it was.
You guys won?
No, it was us as a team.
We lost.
Oh, OK.
I was saying, reiterating that his internet went out,
but still a team.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So who won?
Glad to have you back, Billy.
Yeah.
I believe you guys won.
I'll double check.
Oh, OK.
No, no, you know what?
I actually did see it.
You're right.
We did win.
We did win.
I forgot for a second.
Oh, OK.
Glad I could double check for you.
Momentary lapse of mindfulness there.
So I guess, do you want to go first, Big Cat?
Yeah.
Yeah, so we'll go first as a team.
I did miss you guys being on vacation for a week.
Sometimes they think about the show
and just conversations that would happen and that didn't
happen, so it's good to be back.
What?
No, I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I was specifically, I watched The Bear over the last week.
Good show.
Very good show.
I'm not like, so here was the fake conversation
I had in my head.
I liked The Bear as a show.
I'm not a huge food guy.
And then I was waiting for Hank's face to be like,
huh?
Yeah, right, exactly.
Meaning I'm not a big chef guy.
But I was actually literally sitting in my house
thinking about saying, I'm not a big food guy in Hank being
like, huh?
Yeah.
Hank and I did something.
You were getting mad at me on your vacation.
I was like, you motherfucker, Hank.
Hank and I talked about the show a little bit when he came down
on Wednesday night.
And we just kind of like, he was telling me
how when he opens up his computer sometimes,
old episodes of part of my take start playing.
No, my car Bluetooth connects to my iTunes
and the mixdowns will play.
So it's like the before we like three, two, one clap.
And I'll just get a random conversation
that we had from like April, 2020 or something.
And it's usually us just yelling at Hank.
So I'm going to be like, Hank's trying
to ruin the show already before we get started.
Like, we like to get pre-mad before we do these episodes.
Like, get the competitive juices flowing a little bit.
Lather up.
Lather ourselves up.
Like, Hank just gave us a look.
That's a big topic that we like to have.
That's funny that it just randomly plays.
Yeah.
Let's shout out the OG, Robert Little.
Yeah, it's like you never, I mean,
some of the conversations are wild.
Then it's like, all right, three, two, one.
Yeah.
Just get right into it.
All right, so we're going to go first.
Sure.
Whatever you want.
Let's have Hank and Bubba go second.
OK.
And then Jake and Billy will go third.
Both Jake and Billy.
Yeah, Jake and Billy will go third.
All right, I think our 1-1 is very easy.
And that is, it's the first one I sent.
Yeah, the one that we.
It's players in the best shape of his life.
So there's always one player who's like,
this guy has finally done it.
He's in the best shape of his life.
It could also be like a combo of best shape of your life
or added 15 pounds of muscle.
It could go either way, lost 15 pounds of fat,
added 15 pounds of muscle.
Just the player who everyone is talking about,
he's in the best shape of his life.
Watch out.
Yeah, he changed his diet this off season.
So he's going like a shrimp.
He's going like chicken and fish vegetarian.
So he cut out red meat this season.
He finally got a nutritionist.
That could even, it could be as simple as that.
He's been taking his body seriously this off season.
Yeah.
Stopped eating McDonald's.
That's like, yeah, usually we'll
be coupled with the story of this player used to drink
six liters of soda a day.
They stopped best shape of their life.
Yep, cut out soda entirely.
It's a good pick.
Thank you.
Thanks, Hank.
We alluded to this earlier when we were talking about the Steelers.
But a coach saying there's a QB competition when one guy's
clearly way better.
Yeah.
I like that.
It doesn't matter.
Yeah, it's like every position's up for competition.
It doesn't matter what the last name.
The guy on the back of your jersey is.
It could be Trebisky.
It could be Rudolph.
Doesn't matter.
It's all up for competition.
Yes.
Yeah, like Sam Darnold is beating Baker right now.
But Baker's going to be the starter without a doubt.
But it's up for competition.
But it's up for competition.
You're right.
You're right.
OK, Chile.
We're going to go with holdouts being a distraction.
Yeah, the D word.
The D word.
I don't think anybody actually gets distracted
during training camp.
That's probably the one time of the season
where it's impossible to be distracted if you're a player,
because you're literally just trying to keep your job.
Yeah, that's a good one, too, because it's always,
you always get a couple quotes from some of the veterans
being like, we care about the guys who are here right now.
Yeah, no.
Like, we're not worried about the guys.
You care about your all-star approval.
Like, all we can control is who we got in this locker room
right now.
Meanwhile, they're texting every night being like,
Debo, will you please come back?
Yeah, but then what the media will do on that one
is they'll just see the quote of this guy says,
I care about the players who are here.
And they'll be like, this guy doesn't miss that guy.
Yeah.
And they're always wildly wrong about it.
And you'll have the once every 10 years or five years
where someone does the fucked up thing where they actually
criticize a guy.
And it's like, the rule number one
is don't fuck with someone else's money.
But you always get that randomly,
and it's always great to see it's like, you fucked up.
OK.
Second one we're going with is some sort
of weird mode of transportation.
Like, someone pulls up in a crazy truck, golf cart.
Packers on bikes.
Yeah, they do that every year, yeah.
I know.
Yeah, no, I like that.
They usually do.
There's always one player that pulls up
in one of those weirds, one like the weird three wheel
spiders, the ones that are like, you only buy them
to wreck them eventually.
Troy Cohen, I think, had one a few years ago, yeah.
Oh, didn't AB pull up in the back of a Brinks truck?
And a hot air balloon.
Yeah, and then someone who pulled up, who on Indy did?
Was it TY pulled up in an Indy car, I think?
Something like that.
There's always a player that still drives their old car.
And then the media writes like five stories about that.
Like, well, can you believe this guy still drives his 2002 Honda?
Or the GM trades up and.
Well, I was talking about Alfred Morris.
I think Alfred Morris is still driving his 97 Honda Accord.
OK, next pick.
Good pick.
We're going to go with a fat lime
and catch a pun at the end of practice.
Oh, yeah, that's good.
That's good.
Good for morale.
Let's take one out early.
I like that.
And if he drops it, they usually give him another chance.
And they're like, OK, the coach doesn't want to be here either.
Yes, yes.
That's a good pick, Hank.
OK.
It's Bubba.
Good pick, Bubba.
PFT, where do you want to go with this?
I've got a lot.
I like the first one that I sent to you.
You also had it on your list.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's combined with what happens beforehand.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So if there's a fight, then right afterwards it's, man,
these guys just can't wait to start hitting somebody else.
They're sick of hitting each other.
They want some new blood out there.
Yeah, the fight boils over and everyone's like, oh,
should we be worried about this?
Like, no, no, no, you don't understand.
Like, this is camp.
These guys, they're ready.
They just want to hit anything else.
Yeah, they're sick of each other.
Yeah, yeah.
I love the fight because the fights usually always
involve like a 300 pound lineman and like a 150 wide receiver.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's always just a crazy mismatch.
You're like, what are you doing?
There's usually like a cornerback that will instigate it.
And you know, cornerbacks, they like to talk a lot.
And so they keep talking to an offensive lineman from like Iowa,
who then grabs him by the face mask
and then slams him through the crust of the earth.
Yes, yes.
OK, for our next one, all right.
Yeah, I know what, we both sent it
and we sent it back to each other as well.
So the QB that's ready to take the next step that's finally
learned the offense.
So it's usually second year.
And it's like, this guy feels comfortable
with the terminology.
He knows the playbook.
Everyone's kind of fitting together.
The system makes sense to him.
It's it's usually the second or third year
where offense coordinator and QB are together.
That's always a great story.
Yeah, it's good to have some familiarity in the off season,
not have to learn everything on the fly.
I also think that in this case, this year is not so much
a second year quarterback I'm looking at for this one.
I feel like Derek Carr is that guy this year.
It's like, this is the year that Derek Carr takes that next.
Josh Fritano will unleash Derek Carr.
Yes, absolutely.
Yes.
MVP, $2,500.
Oh, is that an official pick?
Yeah, Jersey Jerry gave it to me.
I put it in.
It's the first feature I have.
MVP of the whole league?
Yeah.
The whole, you know, it's not AMC NFC.
Listen, I trust Jersey Jerry.
And this was the pick he gave me.
And I put it in.
And now I'm just speaking it out loud.
OK.
And it will be rooting for it.
You know, his name is Derek Carr.
It seemed a little crazy.
It seemed a little crazy.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, yeah, I get it.
OK.
And I was just saying like this is Derek Carr
that we're talking about.
Right.
Derek Carr.
Right.
We're talking about the same Derek Carr.
With one of the best wide receivers.
Actually.
And one of the best offensive coordinators.
And they had a lot of promise last year.
I'm actually going to my MVP pick.
I'm going to, I actually, this is another thing
I was thinking about just daydreaming about football.
I think I'm I think I'm going to pick Russell Wilson
because it's like, you know that the narrative's there.
Why?
No, that's way less insane than fucking Derek Carr.
Yeah, actually, I like the Broncos to win the AMC too.
If the Broncos are incredible,
Russell Wilson will get all the credit.
Yeah.
All of it.
Everything.
True.
Yeah.
You're right.
I don't think they're going to be.
Also, you're right.
Peyton Manning, his first year in Denver, would happen.
He went fucking nuts.
Exactly.
True.
All right.
He had what's his name?
His is OC.
Fucking former Adam Gase.
Genius.
Boy wonder.
We're going to go speaking of Russell Wilson.
He was a two sport athlete.
It's just great to talk about football with the guys.
Just want to say that.
Football's back.
Well, we're going to go with a two sport athlete that
made the training camp roster, but everyone
knows he's going to get cut.
OK.
Or like Tim Tebow, like a high profile.
Maybe like sometimes it's like a sprinter or something.
Yep.
But it's like it's a news for a week and you're like, oh, shit.
Like this would be crazy.
And then he gets cut three days later.
Yep.
Always a fun, fun one where you're like, yeah, he's usually
like the first guy get cut.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he ran like, yeah, he ran like a 9-4.
Yeah, he has one day.
He has one day.
They need to bring back Tebow this year.
Can we just put our cards on the table and say we miss Tebow?
I miss Tebow.
You guys all miss Tebow, definitely, right?
I just would like to see him try to walk more.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
Like those preseason highlights were laugh out loud funny
when he was just getting run over by everybody.
Yes.
That part, definitely.
Bring back Tebow.
We're going to go with two picks now.
Two picks.
Our first one is going to be put your internet's
cutting out on you.
A player showing up fat.
Ooh, yep.
That's one.
Eddie Lacey.
And it's like, is he fat?
Letter for that.
Letter for that was the newest one.
Yeah.
But guys showed up too fat.
Yeah, first couple days of camp is always bad angles.
I mean, you get a picture of someone.
You're like, is he fat?
I haven't seen a lot of follow up on what happened
letter for that because I would assume that if he really was fat,
we'd still be talking about it, right?
Or was it just like a bad report?
Well, no, he got he got the lucky bounce of there
was reports that he was fat.
And it was like a week before camp started.
And that's just you can just lose 10 pounds of water
weight in a second.
Yeah.
So then he shows up fine.
It's the guys who show up for the first day.
And it's like, ooh, that's not great.
Yeah.
The conditioning tests are so funny
because they're never they're the easiest things ever.
I remember I used to do it.
I used to do the Bears conditioning test.
And I pass it every year.
They're just basically saying, are you a fat fuck?
I drank.
Did you actually get in the gym once in the office?
Yeah, I drank an entire bottle of Mad Dog
and then went out and did the conditioning test.
The Albert Haynesworth one that he failed.
Yeah.
It's very easy to do.
Very easy.
Very easy.
OK, you guys have another one?
Yeah, it's going to be a rookie saying something out
of context or going viral for just being a rookie,
like Jamar Chase last year.
Uh-huh.
He's talking about catching the balls.
And I was like, oh, he's going to be a boss and he's unreal.
Yep.
I like that one.
Rookie saying something that people go crazy about.
Yes.
All right, good pick.
We're going to go with the positivity.
Yeah.
Sweets back to blow this one.
I'm a sweet dick.
No, this is my favorite favorite one,
common storyline, one of the best ones every year.
It's a star quarterback banging his mom's best friend.
Yeah, that's a good one.
That's a good one.
Classic.
Got that doll.
That is a very good one.
Very enjoyable storyline.
I wish there was more follow up from that too.
Yeah, the media has dropped the ball on that one.
I know.
No one has asked him one question about that.
Or the other players.
And we have insiders that go to the camp.
Yeah, nobody has spoken up.
And they haven't even got to get anything.
It's disgusting.
No wonder our country's in the shape it's in right now.
Billy, anything?
I plead the fifth.
OK, all right.
All right, let's go with our last one.
What do we got?
Yeah, the last one, the late round
our undrafted guy who's turning heads.
He's turning heads.
And they compare him to a Hall of Famer.
This guy's turning heads not to compare him to Lawrence Taylor,
but you can see some physical similarities.
Yes.
And then the guy ends up getting cut.
Yes, yes.
Where it's just like, OK.
And you can also throw him into, he's very similar.
That's usually a hard knocks guy too.
Yeah, well, it's a combo guy because it's also
the guy who's most likely to return a punt or a kickoff
in the fourth quarter of a preseason game.
And everyone's like, whoa, weapon.
And then he's cut.
Yeah, you know, there's always a guy on defense
that recovers like a crazy amount of fumbles
during the preseason.
And as we know about fumble luck,
there's a lot of luck that goes into it.
But they're like, this guy, I don't know something about it.
He's just got a nose for the football.
No, the ball just like happened to fall
near his feet three times.
When all the scrubs were playing.
Yeah, and they're like, wait, how come this guy got cut?
He recovered three fumbles.
I do love the fourth quarter like highlights.
We're like, oh, shit.
Yeah.
Well, they are playing all backups.
So it's, you know, does context matters.
Yeah.
I was going to say, I think Victor Cruz is like the only person
to ever actually work out from being like nasty
in the preseason.
Yeah, yeah.
Like when he went off in that game
and he had like three touchdowns.
Yeah, everyone's like, holy fuck, this guy's insane.
Until Kyle Slaughter this year.
Yeah, that's probably going to happen.
All right.
Things we missed.
Honorable mentions.
We also had a homecoming guy.
Basically, if he played within 300 miles,
high school or college of where the team is playing,
there's always a storyline like this guy,
like it's a homecoming for him.
Yep.
Local kid makes good.
Yeah.
There's always a comically wildly inaccurate kicker.
This year it was on the Jags.
I think he like hit a coach in the head with a miss field goal.
Just as like cartoonish stuff.
Like, oh, he's hit three uprights.
And then he got his foot stuck in a bucket
and fell down and a bottle of water fell on his head.
When the coach says everyone has to earn their spot in this team,
that's just BS, because I feel like entering training camp,
45 of the 53 spots are locked in.
Correct.
The guy who's fully healthy for the first time in his career
since his rookie year, Saquon this year,
where it's like, I finally had a full off season
where I wasn't injured.
Watch out.
And usually that guy just gets injured again.
I love the players that show up still injured this season
from like a lingering injury that they had last year.
Yeah.
So they had, they got held out in October, November,
maybe played one game in December with a hamstring issue.
And then coach is like, we're going to work him in slowly here
in August and make sure he's healthy.
We don't want that hamstring to keep being an issue.
And then guess what?
The hamstring is still an issue.
Yeah, still an issue.
I like the guy who unlocks the system.
The player who they write about, and they're like,
this guy was made for this offensive system.
And it's just some like, it's usually some slot receiver.
It's like, this is the perfect fit.
They finally have this piece.
If we're talking system talk, just the player saying like,
this offense is going to be fun.
Yeah.
Watch out.
Yeah.
New offensive system.
Holy shit.
Watch out.
I thought, and there's always a guy every year
in hard knocks that you like just overhype way too much
and then overdraft and fantasy, for sure.
It's usually like a wide receiver who just
makes a couple good plays.
For a while, it was like a wide receiver.
Yeah.
No, you're right.
You can actually go through the list of guys
on each hard knocks.
And you're like, oh, that's why I drafted him.
Whoops.
I like the chemistry that starts to develop
if you have like a new wide receiver in town.
It's like, oh, they've been throwing together all off season.
They've developed a great chemistry.
Different energy in the building.
Different energy in the building.
Different energy's changed.
Yeah.
Usually someone either got at it or someone was taken out.
And it's like, oh, yeah, different energy.
I like we got a great group of guys.
It's always about like a just awesome group of guys
in the locker room.
And we think that we think if we all work together
and pull in the same direction, we
can go on to do some pretty great things this year.
Yes.
Backup quarterbacks, just doing weird stuff.
Yeah.
Mint shoe, showering and compression shorts.
Yeah.
Backup quarterbacks having a moment, for sure.
And then the basics are always fun,
like the defenses ahead of the offense.
Offenses ahead of the defense.
Just so you know, like I think I saw one quote this year.
It was like, we got to start.
Oh, it was actually Christopher McCaffrey talking
about Baker Mayfield.
He was like, we got to start winning more sessions.
Yeah, that's interesting.
We got to start winning these.
I like this quarterback finally has weapons.
I like that one.
I've been saying that a lot to myself about this off season.
But yeah, just finally, you know what?
He's got a weapon.
He finally has a true number one.
He's going to be unlocked.
I love unlocking guys.
Unlocking in preseason is what it's all about.
Anything else, Hank?
You got anything that's, I'm trying to think if there's any.
The Patriots never really have anything coming big
out of the training camp.
Yeah, it's just like they're still good.
The Bears usually just have some guy
that everyone got excited about, got drafted,
and then he just is injured all the time.
Like Ryan Pace actually left a burning bag of shit
on everyone's doorstep with Tevin Jenkins,
who was supposed to be like,
holy shit, he got him the second round.
He's just been injured the whole time.
Yeah, I feel like the lineman punt thing is like the only,
like that will always come out of the Patriots.
Always.
Is there ever a story that comes out of the Patriots camp
where it's like Belichick was really pissed off
at people today?
Like bad practice.
No, I mean, I just enjoy like the reporters that live,
we talked about the last show, but they live tweet
the scrimmages and like the five on fives
and stuff that like mean nothing and not even.
They're like fifth pass of the day,
got deflected, intercepted.
Oh, shit.
Oh, you know what I really love?
When they're doing those live tweets
and all the reporters at once say like,
so-and-so usually like the second wide receiver
on the team just made one of the most spectacular catches
you'll ever see in your life.
And then you watch it and it's just like,
okay, that's kind of cool.
But then everyone always talks about that one catch
that they made.
George Pickens is that guy this year.
I've seen so much stuff about George Pickens.
And I think he is going to be very good,
but people are talking like he's the greatest
wide receiver of all time.
After four training camp practice.
He might be.
The last one I had was just the team goes bowling.
That's always fun or plays mini golf.
Yeah.
It's always a fun little moment.
I feel like teams though don't go to like camp anymore.
You know what I mean?
They don't stay away.
They don't just sleep away camp.
Mostly, maybe it's a COVID thing,
but like aren't most teams just in their facility now?
The Panthers are doing it.
They're somewhere else.
I guess the Cowboys are in Oxnard.
I don't think the Bears.
I got a who's back.
Rookie Herakas.
Yeah.
Are they allowed to do that anymore?
I don't know.
Also, don't they do like talent shows a lot too?
Yeah.
The real talent show.
They always do an impression on a coach.
Are we mixing up hard knocks moments
with training camps?
Well, hard knocks is a documentary about training camp.
I know, but like it's usually what comes out of the media.
No, but this comes out as well.
Okay.
Yeah.
We're also kind of the media.
Yeah, we are the media.
Fuck the media.
The media is always making their own cheese steaks
and pushing shit on us.
Do you ever think about just maybe killing yourself, Billy,
because you are the liberal media?
What the fuck?
You are who you hate.
You walk up one day and look at the beer.
I'm the biggest lib.
Yeah.
You know, three time winner.
Billy always tells himself, learn to code.
Yeah.
All right.
This has got me very, very excited.
I'm super excited for football.
Oh my God.
All right.
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Okay, who's back of the week, Hank?
My who's back of the week is people talking
about celebrities using private jets.
Oh yeah.
We talked about this on this show.
Must've been last week with Kylie Jenner.
And I don't know if it was in response to that.
Maybe it was like a Chris Kardashian thing,
like trying to get all the bad PR off Kylie.
But a list, a top 10 list got released of the celebrities
that use the most carbon emissions
and take private jets and private flights the most.
It's a good list.
Is Leo on there?
No, here, I got the list.
Leo's not on there.
Leo keeps fucking telling us about the planet.
It's Travis Scott, who's Kylie's husband.
What are you gonna say, Billy?
No, I thought Hank was about to like,
the Brazilian president retweeted Leonardo DiCaprio
and was going after him for his private jet use.
Oh, because he wants to keep tearing down the rain force.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oprah.
Okay.
The big O.
She gets a pass.
Mark Wahlberg.
Uh-huh.
He has to stay ready.
He has to stay ready.
He has to be on planes.
Okay.
All right.
Maybe I'll say for Mark Wahlberg,
stop taking private plane all the time.
Maybe sleep in one day a week.
And then you can take the private plane.
Kim K.
Okay.
Okay.
Blake Shelton.
Okay.
Not Blake of the Year material.
Our Blake of the Year takes the fucking
The Luke plane out.
The Saudi prince's private plane.
Gets a lot of people around.
Steven Spielberg.
Okay.
Whoa.
Okay.
A-Rod.
We've been on it.
We've been on air A-Rod.
Beautiful plane.
It is an unbelievably nice plane.
It's an incredible plane.
I'm not going to.
If I had that plane, I would probably cruise it around as well.
If I had that plane,
I would fucking take it to the bodega.
Like I would go down the street.
I'd be like, yeah, let me hop on this real quick.
Jay-Z and Beyonce.
Floyd Mayweather.
That's not fair to combine them into one.
No, I actually did that myself.
They actually were both on the list next week.
Oh, wow.
Wait, who has more?
I think.
Probably Beyonce.
Yeah, I think Beyonce was three and Jay-Z was four.
Floyd Mayweather.
And then number one surprise people
because she's been outspoken against it was Taylor Swift.
Oh no.
She's taken, it's only been since January
in her private jet.
And then her PR team said that she lends the plane out
and it's not her on all these planes.
But 110 trips since January
and like the average trip is like 80 minutes.
Haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate.
That's a fact.
But yeah, the Swifties are, you know,
I'm never, they're psychopaths
and they're, you know, clapping back.
Like our former co-worker?
Yeah, I mean, there's just all the,
there's, yeah, you know, Swifties go hard.
My rapper does go hard for Taylor Swift.
And they're on their high horse.
They always like to, you know, proper up,
you know, say she's the queen and then.
He's always tweeting snake emoji out.
Say proper up or proper.
Proper up, like, you know.
Proper up, like the lads.
Like the Conor McGregor whisker.
No, like, like, prop.
Whiskey?
Prop, proper up.
Her up.
Is it a plane pond you're using?
Prop.
Is that a plane thing?
Oh, a prop plane.
Oh, they, they don't use props.
They fly, they fly with jets, twin engine usually.
I know.
Yeah.
Listen, this is one of those things that,
well, maybe they should probably use less planes,
especially if they're gonna, hypocrites,
fuck hypocrites, right?
Like if people are, that's what I was saying.
If Leo's on that list, I'm gonna be mad.
Well, I'm sure that Al Gore wasn't on that list
because usually he is included on those.
But the anti-swifty is, you know,
they're having a few good days.
Yeah, the swift boaters?
But what I'll say again is we've been lucky enough
to fly private every now and then.
It is pretty fucking awesome.
Like if you have the means to do it,
like these people do, I would probably,
it's probably the coolest, rich thing you can do.
I remember the first time that you flew
on Dave's plane somewhere and I was like,
I would never, like, I'm a coach guy.
I'm highly coached.
I'm a coach's son.
And then you just happened to be on the next trip.
And then I got on the next one.
I was like, yeah, you know what?
All my previous concerns completely out of what,
fuck the environment.
So you just show up and you don't have to go to an airport
and then you just land and then there's a car
to pick you up?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, so I'm not gonna,
I just don't end up on the top 10 last year.
No, just don't be a hypocrite.
Like what I'm saying right now,
if I would be hypocritical to be like,
how could these fucking people do it?
Knowing that like for college football's show,
we like fly on private or rough and rowdy.
I'm saying flying private is fucking sweet,
so I'm not gonna judge anyone.
Okay, I think that every plane,
every private plane, if you're on this list,
you should have to carry bombs on it.
Not like in a suitcase.
I mean, like the plane should be armed.
So like, there's a chance of a giant mishap happening
while you're on the plane.
Okay.
Just add a little bit of danger to it at least.
Okay, okay, it also is funny,
like it would be funny if it was,
trying to think what school would be,
who's had like a bunch of coaches coaching carousel?
Like if like,
if Florida was on there,
if the Florida Gators were on there
for one of the top, you know, users,
that's really what it is.
We have to defend private planes
because without private planes, college football crumbles.
And the coaching searches, nothing happens.
Coaching searches, recruiting, all this shit.
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay, good, who's back?
Yeah, and then Jack Young, top,
or Jack Homa, sorry.
Jack Homa.
Top 25, finish.
Oh, nice.
Jack Homa did, so he's back.
Maxwell is such a perfect.
I think Max only comes out in the majors.
I think that's when it's Max.
Who needs to make the cut?
It's Jack runs at the Fortnite challenge.
He should do, he should go back and forth.
Oh, okay, you're who's back, PFT.
Okay, my who's back,
I've actually addressed, I think,
most of my who's backs already.
So I had DeGrom,
DeGrom's making his first start for the Mets on Tuesday.
Yeah, that's coming up.
He's, yeah, he's, it's coming up later.
So we haven't addressed it yet.
He's back with the teaser.
You know, teaser for later, DeGrom is back,
and then I also had who's back
to motherfucking NFL is back.
So back.
And Tony Fennel is back.
Tony Fennel is back to back.
To back.
Is what he is right now.
He's gonna win again.
He's back to back to back.
You guys would have been taking a lot more private jets
if you had won the lottery, but that.
That's true.
Yeah, so losing, for me, losing's back.
So I don't know what else I can do,
but I paid $500 in lottery tickets,
and that's so you wouldn't win.
Actually more.
It was a bad investment.
What can I say?
I thought it was gonna win.
I'd already started to spend the money.
Turns out Steven Shea absconded with the winning ticket,
and now he's just, he's MIA.
So if you get eyes on Steven Shea,
he has the winning lottery ticket.
My problem, I've been the same with 50-50,
is that I went and bought 500 tickets and I was like,
well, but the next one's probably gonna win.
Yeah.
So then I ended up buying like $700 tickets.
I also shout out our good friend, Biz.
I think Biz actually thought we were gonna win.
He called me like two hours before
and was like, we gotta strike a deal.
And I was like, okay.
And he's like.
I mean, that guy's hustler.
Yeah, he was like.
That guy is hustling 24-7.
If I win, I'll give you $25 million,
and I was like, let's make it 50, dude.
What are we doing here?
And then he was like, what about PFT and Hank?
I was like, well, if I win, I'm gonna take care of him.
He's like, all right, if I win, I'll take care of him too.
I was like, all right.
Let's go.
So you guys were in business,
but then he was like, so how many tickets are you gonna buy?
And I was like, I've already bought like $700
with tickets.
He's like, oh, I was gonna buy like two.
You mother fucker.
It doesn't work like that.
$500 worth of tickets.
It was so many tickets to get.
Like I was walking around feeling scared.
I felt like I should have a briefcase
that was handcuffed to my arm.
I was afraid to be walking around
with what was essentially, I thought, $1.2 billion.
It was tough.
And then I thought after I lost the drawing
on which I spent $500 in lottery tickets,
maybe the worst investment of all time,
I was like, wait, isn't it now statistically
the best time to play the lottery
right after I missed the giant drunk?
Maybe now I should go back and buy $500
with the lottery tickets because my strategy was off.
And I convinced myself of that.
So I think I'm gonna be buying $500 with the lottery tickets
because now is when you're most likely to win the lottery.
I'd agree.
It's like after a big plane crash,
that's the safest time to fly.
That's a fact.
Lightning doesn't strike twice.
I actually think it's the most dangerous time to fly.
Right after?
Well, if there's a pilot that like downs his own plane,
that's the most dangerous day to fly is the day after
because it's in the news.
And so other pilots see that
and maybe one of them would be like,
yeah, fuck, you know, I'm thinking about it.
Oh, just go down, yeah.
I guess this is something that we're doing now.
I had the residual rush of,
it was Illinois that got the winning ticket
and I saw where it was sold.
I think it was in Oasis and I can't remember.
Maybe it was outside Park Ridge.
I can't remember exactly which town had it.
But I texted everyone I knew around that area.
So, and one of them didn't get back,
one of my friends didn't get back to me for a while
and I was like, he fucking won.
He's gonna keep me out of it.
Turns out, no, because they didn't play the lottery.
I think my big mistake was I bought my ticket at 7-Eleven.
You have to buy it at like a independent
bodega convenience store,
one like the dirtiest gas station in town.
It's gotta be a store.
I went corporate, yeah, it's never at a 7-Eleven.
Yeah, all right, my who's back is pizza.
This went viral.
It was gonna be a Monday reading,
but we got a big show announcement and also, what?
What?
What are you laughing about?
No, you're just making me laugh, sorry.
Okay, sorry.
Like a clown.
Yeah, how do I look in your laugh?
Like how funny?
Yes, like a clown.
But I'll just read it real quick.
This went viral over the weekend.
It's quick reading.
It says, my boyfriend won't stop calling me Tony Pizza.
I, female 21 and my boyfriend, male 21,
currently live together and have been together
about four months to explain why we're living together
after the four month mark.
We started out as roommates, but then started dating.
I have to say my boyfriend has never been good at pet names.
Some early ones were Little Stubster, Sour Meat,
and one of my nicknames for him in comparison is Little Bird.
Anyway, about two weeks ago,
he starts calling me Tony Pizza.
This doesn't even make sense,
and he uses it more often than my actual name.
He's obsessed.
It honestly bothers me that he can't even bother
to find a somewhat nice nickname for me.
I have had a couple of conversations with him about it,
but he says he just can't think of anything better.
What do I do?
Is this gonna become a major, a bigger problem,
or should I even address it?
I hate being Tony Pizza all-time backfire for this chick
because everyone was like, your boyfriend rocks.
Tony Pizza's a hilarious nickname.
Is it Tony with an I or Tony with a Y?
Tony with a Y, and also, like, bury the lead much.
He called you Sour Meat, and you were fine with it,
and Tony Pizza was too much?
It's also better than what was the other one, like,
Stubster. Little Stubster.
Yeah, Little Stubster. That's never good.
I mean, Sour Meat, there's gotta be some meat
that's sour there, like, that didn't come out of nowhere.
Maybe see your option.
Yeah, Tony Pizza's a great nickname.
Yeah, Tony Pizza's not bad.
You're named after maybe the most delicious food.
Tony's just a cool name.
I would just imagine-
L.E.O., his restaurant is Tony Pizza.
Just imagine to yourself that your name is Tony with an I,
and then it becomes a cool name if you're a chick.
There's also, like, a 5% chance this guy's an AWL,
and he's just in fantasy fuck-boys season.
Tony Pizza.
Hey, what's up, guys? It's Tony Pizza.
Yeah.
My girlfriend, she's got a stinky-ass pussy.
Like Tony.
I call her Sour Meat.
Tony Pizza, Tony Pizza, to me, just reminds me,
like, it's a name that you would say out of affection,
unlike Sour Meat, which is one that you're saying to bust balls.
Yes.
Do you really like pizza?
Yeah.
Is that your thing? Oh, well, guess what?
Get in line, because everyone else does, too.
You're just honored with the nickname of it.
Tony Pizza.
Yeah, but it was such a hilarious backfire,
because it was a universal, like, very rare
that the internet can decide 100% on one thing,
and everyone was like, Tony Pizza's a hilarious nickname.
Yeah, I like Tony Pizza.
Yeah, Tony Pizza.
We needed Tony Pizza.
OK, Billy, your who's back.
My first who's back is Piss Jugs.
How many you got?
I got two, maybe three.
OK, Piss Jugs, feel it out.
I got two.
You'll feel it out of you.
I'll feel it out.
Piss Jugs, apparently, from an inside source I have,
something that was posted to the NFL Reddit.
The Carolina Panthers, apparently,
have been having a Piss Jug problem in their facilities.
They're all just having tons of Piss Jugs everywhere.
How's that a problem?
It's not.
I'm just, I love Piss Jugs.
Oh, I guess it'd be a problem if they didn't empty them.
That's the only way it could be a problem.
Wait, are you saying, I want to back up a little bit,
because the way you started the story was,
I've got inside information into the situation.
I found it posted on the NFL Reddit.
So your inside information is your Reddit password?
Exactly.
OK, got it.
So here's, I have another follow-up question,
because I'm really just, I'm kind of interested in the mind
of Billy.
I'm just trying to get into your mind,
figure out what makes you tick.
What's the deciding factor whether you go two or three here?
How, what's our relationship with Jake Paul like nowadays?
That's, I mean, you could not exist at all?
Yeah, whatever.
Like, wait, Logan is the one we really like.
Yes.
Jake is, yeah, whatever.
Yeah, well, his, one of his fights got canceled.
The guy pulled out.
But that, I mean, who's side are you taking Billy?
I was, I was, I was doing some, some toilet research earlier.
It's not, it's not just, oh, watch out.
Hanks got some toilet research.
There's, there's, there's, there's, but there's two sides of the story.
There's two sides of the story.
And he's not just some guy.
He's a former heavyweight champion, Hasseem Rockman.
So like, he's, he's a legitimate boxer.
Now he's, no, that's his son.
Yeah, no, it's his son.
Yeah, he's not, yeah, no, it's definitely not him.
Uh, yeah, Hasseem Rockman.
I didn't do enough toilet research for him, so.
Yeah, why don't you leave it up to the experts here?
Well, to be, to be honest, I did driving research,
which is worse than toilet research.
So that's, you can understand how I saw Rockman.
And then my brain just put two and two together
as I was on the highway.
I was like, oh, it's the guy that was a fucking heavyweight
champion of the world.
Well, mine is TikTok research.
Okay.
So you got toilet and TikTok research.
Let's see who's got better research.
No, so basically there was dispute about the weight.
It had to do with the New York state commission.
They said that Rockman was too heavy net right now
to fight in a week at the 200 pound weight limit
to weigh in at 200 pounds.
But what's the point of a weigh in then?
Right.
So that's where it gets weird.
It has to do with the rehydration clause, which
is something that, like what?
So Rockman's much bigger than Jake Paul.
He was going to just lose like 20 pounds of water weight.
Well, he also basically, he said that, sorry to interrupt,
Billy, he said that he signed the contract to fight at 200.
He's like 225 right now.
And there's a big, he loses a lot of money.
There's a big, like he loses 25% per pound that he's overweight.
And he basically was like, even if I'm overweight,
I'll just fight for whatever the minimum.
Like I'll fight for 5K.
I don't care.
And then he's saying that Jake Paul was scared of him fighting
at a heavier weight and backed out.
Well, the thing is he, Jake Paul wouldn't beat him at 250.
Yeah, like I'm on Jake Paul's side.
Like 10 pounds in boxing is a lot.
You're walking around.
And he signed the contract to fight at 200.
Yeah, and it sounds like it's 25 pounds.
He has three weeks.
He lost, he went from 230 to 215 in like a week.
Yeah, but he could get down to 200.
It's just, he could get way into 200 and then come back,
but then it would be the rehydration class.
So Jake Paul would be fighting a guy with the dehydration.
Yeah, it's 25 pounds heavier.
But he would be way more dehydrated and probably win
because he wasn't hydrated enough to fight.
It sounds like there are too many weigh-ins in this fight.
There should be one weigh-in.
Yeah, the weigh-in before the weigh-in.
It's the weigh-in, either that or you have like a post weigh-in
weigh-in and you're allowed to gain like up to 10 pounds back
after the second weigh-in, which is the official weigh-in.
There's also a lot of Twitter reply guys,
who knows the truth, this or not,
that are saying that the fight wasn't selling well at all.
And so Jake was kind of like whatever.
You know, he found an out and took it.
Because it is like, wearing this much about weight
this far ahead of the fight, it's kind of crazy.
Also Dylan Danis is spreading false,
he's like spreading unconfirmed rumors
that there was offers of a dive to Rockman
and he didn't take it.
And then it was like, oh, it's a real fight, as you know.
So who knows how it's going.
It'd be real shame if somebody were to spread rumors
like that all the time about things that they didn't know.
Yeah, but who knows?
I mean, the thing is it's funny.
How much did you get paid for the dive?
And what were you said, like my shoulder or what?
I don't know.
But the thing is, what's funny about all these problems
is that Jake Paul's running into all the problems
like the boxing promoters did in the 1930s.
And that's what you get for competing outside of sanctioned,
like WBA, WC.
It's like history repeating itself.
This type of stuff happened in the 20s.
It was lawless land.
Would there be anything worse though
than if you were a fighter on that card?
Like one of the undercards.
And you train for that long.
And then it's like, oh, yeah, you're
not going to fight next week.
That'd be such a letdown.
Counterpoint, it is the summer and you got a six pack.
That's true.
So that's kind of cool.
I would just be pissed off at all the work that I did
that I didn't have to do.
I would go back and I'd look at the calendar
and be like, I could have gotten drunk on St. Patrick's Day.
I couldn't eat a shitload of cheesecake on Valentine's Day.
I would have really mad.
I would just walk around without a shirt on for the entire summer.
Amanda Serrano is the big loser in all of this.
Oh, because she was on the card?
Yeah.
Yeah, that does suck.
Oh, another who's back is liver shots.
You see that dude in the UFC match?
Get knocked out via kick to his liver.
I'd be pissing butt for a while.
I fucking love liver shots.
I've heard that they're the most painful thing that
can happen to you.
Is to get contacted directly on your liver
because it's got all these nerve endings in there.
And then to get knocked down via kick to your liver.
And then instantly after, when you're in the most pain
that a person can be in, you're also
just getting punched in the face repeatedly.
I would rather die.
I would honestly just, if you're thinking about doing that to me,
just shoot me in my head.
The worst one I ever saw was Brock Lesnar against Alistair
Overeem.
He got liver-shotted and just got pounded.
That's my kink is watching liver shot compilations.
Watch that one when you get the chance,
because Brock Lesnar, a monster of humor, going down.
Yeah, no, it's like some like, it looks like magic.
Because you're like, wait, he just got hit in the side.
That shouldn't hurt.
And then they just die.
And they usually get, there's like a half second
where they don't realize they're in pain yet,
and they take that next step, and then they stop.
It's like kill Bill.
Yeah, it's crazy.
All right.
Oh, you have one more?
Yeah, the Guardian Protective Gear.
What do you guys think about that?
Go on.
They had that new equipment.
Wait, wait, wait, pretend that we don't know.
I know.
I'm just going to say I hate it.
What do you think, big cat?
I think it's the pacification of America.
OK.
Big storyline.
Yeah, I mean, so basically in train camp.
Oh, that!
OK, that guy.
She said the bumblebee hat.
I was, yeah.
The Velcro-looking thing they put on top of the helmets.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, puts the vacation of America.
Yeah, there it is.
I nailed it.
Sala has a great take.
His take is that because it's that extra protection,
players are going to actually start using their heads more
with it, and then as soon as they take it off for a real game.
But they're not using it for boxing.
They're not using it for full pads.
They were using it when they were just doing the first few days
with no pads, right?
No, they use it in full pads.
Oh, they do?
To prevent the sub-concussive blows that
happen in multi-detention training camp.
I think it just looks funny.
Yeah.
I think they should get rid of helmets all together.
No helmet.
Stop using your heads.
I guess you can only pass the ball backwards.
And then touchdowns, you actually
have to touch the ball down there with five,
and then the extra points with two.
I got to start doing the big head pictures with those.
I'm going to do one right now.
It's going to be fucking sick.
All right, keep going.
A lot of guys hate them.
All right, Jake, you're up.
My who's back is text reminders.
They cut this one for you.
OK.
Todd McShay came on the show in late April.
You called him a good friend.
And he's like, how am I a good friend?
He texts me once a year.
So he told me to remind you to text him a few times a year.
A few days a day?
Today's the day that came up for the first time.
What should I say to him?
Hello, friend.
I'm going to say, what's up, Todd?
Hope you're well.
And then maybe a thumbs up emoji.
What's it like, not make it creepy?
Hope you've been following your stuff recently.
Great as always.
Keep crushing it, bro.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Let's OK, I say.
Ask him about the helmets.
Hey, Todd.
Hey, Todd.
Just checking in as friends do.
Hope you're well.
Keep killing it.
Talk to you in April.
Keep killing it.
No, no, no.
Be like parentheses, but not actually murder.
Ha ha.
And then be like, we got to catch up soon.
Yeah, yeah.
Got to catch up soon.
Talk soon.
OK, bye.
All right, I said it.
He's going to think that's really creepy.
Yeah, that's going to, that probably won't go over well.
We should just call him and ask him to suck our dicks.
OK, that's aggressive.
Billy, I didn't know you got down like that.
My man.
How do you think I knew about this?
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We wanted to have you on, Jake, because we got
trade deadline coming up.
Let's start big picture.
You've been on teams that are sellers, teams that are buyers.
What is the vibe like in a clubhouse, like a day or two
before trade deadline, where everyone's like, uh-oh,
what's going to happen here?
Well, so this past year, when I was with the Cubs
and we started getting rid of guys, you know, Chris Bryant
was gone, Javi was gone, we got rid of Rizzo.
And leading up to that moment, we were still kind of in it,
at least a little bit.
And then once the first guy gets traded,
you're like, well, shit, like, OK, now it
seems like we're sellers.
We might not have the ability to gain ground in the division
and everyone knows it.
And it's a shitty feeling.
So it takes a few days for you to kind of get over that.
Man, and when the guys started leaving,
like when Rizzo was traded, I mean,
that was an emotional moment, as you guys could imagine.
Being a part of that big run with all of us,
it was hard to see him go.
But you just you kind of understand why it has to happen.
It's for the for the best interest in the organization.
But that doesn't mean it's easy for players to deal with.
So it's tough.
You'd rather be on the buying side
when you're in like that wild card situation,
kind of like the Mariners are, when you bring in a guy.
Luis Castillo went to the Mariners.
Like that's a huge move.
So, I mean, the the energy,
the vibe of the clubhouse only increases.
And I mean, when you bring in a guy like that, man,
like your chances of, you know, maintaining the wild card
or or overcoming another team and getting into that wild card
only only goes up.
So it's it sucks to be on the side where you're selling,
but you understand it.
But, you know, when you buy and you get a big piece like that,
I mean, man, the vibe couldn't be better in the clubhouse.
Yeah. So you've also been, you were traded from the Orioles
to the Cubs in July. Scott Feldman.
Yeah. July of was it 2013?
Yep. So was that right around the all star break?
Or was it where you actually like in the middle of games?
Because I'm always wondering when you get traded to a new city
as a player, you have to also take into account your actual life
and you're moving to a new city, but you're also working
and you're traveling and doing all this stuff for the team
that takes up so much of your time.
Like what's that process like for a player getting to a new city?
Having to find a house or having to find a condo or something like that
that they're moving into?
Well, so there's so many people behind the scene, like you got VJ,
who's the best travel secretary in all of baseball.
Shout out to VJ with the Cubs.
I mean, he reaches out right away and kind of help
she facilitate that process.
And, you know, I had I had a I have a CPA who
I've worked with since I was drafted, who I was connected to
through Scott Boris and Boris Corporation.
So they take care of, you know, changing utilities
and finding a new place and helping you pack and ship all your stuff
to the next city.
Some guys don't have that luxury.
Some guys are kind of on their own and they have to have their mom or dad
or sister, brother, whatever help help them with that.
So it can be tough.
But for me, I was in a situation where I was just ready to get out of Baltimore.
I couldn't wait. I knew a trade was looming.
I didn't know where I was going to go.
But when I got the phone call that I was traded to Chicago, I'm like,
let's let's go like this is like it could it could be a better situation
for me and what happened after that, you know, for the next three or four years
after I was traded. I mean, it's just it's kind of a storybook ending.
But yeah, it's it's a difficult process.
But you just you have to have a support system and most people do
that can help them find a place to live.
Or I mean, some guys stay in a hotel from the moment they were traded
until the end of the season.
And, you know, sometimes that's the best way to go.
That sounds like that'd be fun.
Just like somebody else make.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Actually, room service every night.
In my dumb brain, the hardest part would be joining a new team
and then having to learn like all these different new
handshakes with every new teammate.
Yeah, you have to like invent your own new handshakes from scratch.
Yes, yes. Well, and also it's like when you when you walk into a new clubhouse
and Scott Feldman was traded and I know him and Samarja were tight
and the guys are like, you know, we're bringing we're bringing Pedro Stropin,
this guy named Jake Arietta and like, why are we doing this?
And I totally understand that at the time.
And those guys are right for thinking that because they lost one of their boys
even though they were in a situation where they weren't going to go anywhere
in the postseason that season.
So for me, when you go in, it's like, hey, let's try and build these
relationships as fast as we can, get to know guys and just just be an open book.
Like, you know, and I think that's the only way you can approach it.
Because if if you're standoffish and you're quiet in the clubhouse,
guys tend to not like that.
So I'm I'm shaking hands.
I'm asking people personal questions about their their girlfriend, their wife,
their kids, whatever it might be, just to kind of acclimate myself
into that vibe as quick as possible.
All right. So let's talk this trade deadline.
Let's start with the big one.
Juan Soto, do you think he gets traded?
And if he does where I've heard the Cardinals, I've heard the Padres.
I've heard maybe that the price is too high.
Where do you like if you had to if you gun to your head,
what what are you saying once Soto happens on Tuesday?
Well, as you guys know,
anywhere that wants Soto would land makes that team instantly,
you know, extremely better.
So I heard Jake Peavey give a take on on the network about him
potentially ending up in San Diego.
And I could also see St. Louis.
I think St. Louis, it could be kind of a trojan horse for somebody like Soto.
St. Louis is an organization who always finds a way to find these guys.
Obviously, Soto isn't just finding a guy, but they always bring guys up
and and they're always good, whether it's development
or just high character guys, whatever it is, they always find guys that perform.
But I would love to see Soto in San Diego for the simple reason
that the Dodgers have just dominated the NOS forever.
And if the if the Padres are serious about taking that next step,
what better way to make that statement than to bring in a guy like Juan Soto?
Yeah. So you've worked with Boris before.
What are the communications like behind the scenes when they're talking contract?
It's all going back and forth.
How much information is he giving you about the the status of the contract
versus like, what are you hearing through the grapevine?
Are there leaks that come out from other people?
Like how what's that process like from your end?
Yeah, well, typically, like the leaks that come out are just our bullshit
and the rumors that there's really sometimes there might be some merit to it.
But I'd say nine out of ten times the information
that it is that is factual, that is actually hard, hard information,
hard facts is going from the team to the agent to the player.
And in my situation, that's always been the case.
I mean, I've gotten calls from Scott at two o'clock in the morning,
four o'clock in the morning with, hey, we just got off the the phone
with the the GM from Baltimore, the GM from San Diego.
And this is what the deal is, or this is what they would like to do moving forward.
So and I know Arod said said what he said about, you know,
the the players, the boss, not the agent.
And that's true.
But are you would you ever walk into court and represent yourself
in a huge, huge case with without an attorney?
That's just not that's not what's going to happen.
So if we were able to negotiate these contracts on our own, we would do that.
But we can't do that.
And that's why we have advisers and agents like all the players to do in the entire league.
Was he trying like, I know Scott, from my understanding
and what he's done with a lot of players, he likes his players to get to free agency
because that's good, not just for them, because, you know, they can get,
they can command a higher price on the open market, but also all the other guys
that he represents, that increases their salary as well.
What's that back and forth like where you're like, you know, OK,
I need to balance his advice to me with me saying, you know, I I would like to make
a lot of money, but also the situation is important too.
And if I'm in a good situation, I want to stay there.
Well, I think what people fail to remember is that Scott has
10, 20, 30, 40 or 100 clients and aren't these these marquee free agents
that sign, you know, these these smaller contracts every single year.
But people really love to focus on the, you know, like the blue chip
free agents that he has.
And they wonder why somebody would turn down a deal like Juan Soto.
Juan Soto is worth 60, 70 million to a team per season.
Same thing with Bryce Harper, that contract is going to pay for itself.
It's probably already paid for itself.
The amount of jerseys and tickets that guys like that selling
and their ability to get guys in the stadium and in the seats,
the revenue that they generate, it supersedes the contract by far.
But that can be a difficult situation.
If you have an AAV, a contract, say, say four years for,
you know, 120 million on the table and you're saying and your agent's telling
you, you can get, you know, you know, 25 million a year.
That's a difficult situation, because if you say no to that
contract, it could go away.
So what you got to do is you have to process the information.
You have to console your family, obviously your advisors.
And then ultimately it's your it's your decision.
And some guys have made poor decisions based on the information
that they've gotten from from their agent.
There's no way around it.
And that's that's always going to be the case.
Players aren't aren't always going to, you know, maintain the upper hand.
Sometimes the team gets the best of you and sometimes the player wins.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's definitely times when you see that where a guy gets like he signs a deal
and it's like, Oh, that wasn't the best deal.
He's going to he could get way more.
I want to talk about your former team, the Orioles.
So this is a little bit there.
There's a rooting interest for me because I do have a ticket for the Orioles
to win the AL at 400 to one.
I was reading that they might be sellers and like Tre Mancini might get treated.
Like I saw that too.
Yeah. Like so.
So here's what I don't understand.
And it's not apples to apples.
But like the 2015 Cubs at the trade at the All Star break or halfway through,
we're, you know, a few games over 500.
They weren't the best team in Major League Baseball.
They were a lot of young guys coming up like starting like things were progressing quickly.
It feels like the Orioles are in that that boat where it's like things are
happening faster.
Why not?
You don't have to buy big things, but why not buy a couple of things to show
that like, Hey, let's try to give a push to get to the playoffs
instead of being sellers and pushing it off again.
Because don't you think that has a detriment to like what the Orioles are building
if they start selling off pieces when they're two or three games away
from the wild card this year?
Well, so where is Tre Mancini at in his in his contract?
Is it will he be a free agent after this year next year?
I think it might be after this year.
But I just. Yeah. OK.
I still. Yeah.
I think it's after this year.
I'll double check it right now.
Well, so so if you're going to buy, you have to you have to think about this,
which I'm sure you have, what do you are you potentially giving up pieces
that could be a part of your future that that next year you might have a short
stop that's ready to hit the ground running, make the team at a spring training
or a right fielder or a guy at the bench who could play multiple positions
as a utility guy.
So, man, it's just so hard to to have these these meetings.
That's why I said I I would not want to trade places with guys in the front
office. And sometimes we we talk shit about them and we we give them a hard
time. But it's a pretty difficult job because if you make the wrong decision
and you give up a high prospect that's that it's going to be ready to help
your ballclub in the next season or two to get a rental player and then you
don't make the wild card.
And it's like, hey, why the hell did you make that decision?
You see what I'm saying? Yeah, no, definitely.
I just looked it up.
He does have one more year with the Orioles.
But it's one more year. So so in 20, then you could you could you could.
OK, so that's you got one more year of them.
So you could command a higher price for him.
Yeah. But then you're also losing him and his ability to for what he could
potentially do for you next season and team leader.
But like, all right, so back to the 2015 Cubs, you know, they didn't make a splash.
They got Dan Herron, who's a good friend of ours.
But like it was the the sign of like, hey, we're not we're going to add even
if it's a smaller piece, let's add something and keep pushing.
I feel like the Orioles, maybe I don't know the situation well enough.
But I feel like they're they're playing great baseball like playing good.
They're they're right there.
I'd rather try to get my young guys into the playoffs to give them that seasoning
than potentially, you know, shed some parts and keep pushing it down to the next,
you know, next year.
Well, what do you think about?
So so there were is it three games out of the wild card currently?
I think there are three or three or something like that.
So in with with the juggernaut
right at the top of the division and you have Tampa, right?
Other than that, Toronto, Toronto has been up and down.
They have been playing great.
Boston has been bad shit.
Then they play great.
Maybe you just roll with the guys you got.
Yeah. And see, see, see where you're at, because at least that way,
that kind of gives the the the players in that clubhouse confidence.
Like, hey, they didn't bring anybody in.
They think that we can potentially, you know, get into a wild card spot
with the group we have.
And just that, like, if that takes the confidence from like a seven to an eight
or whatever, if it just takes that,
you know, that vibe up just just one notch, maybe they get into the wild card.
Yeah. You know, you never want to see guys get injured,
but things happen all the time.
And if Boston continues to play poorly, if Toronto doesn't play that well,
if, you know, say Tampa slides, you know, several games, they're right in it.
So I actually don't hate the the idea of just rolling with the guys
they currently have. Yeah, you don't even have to buy there.
There are three games out right now.
They do have two teams in front of them, but it's going to be, you know,
like one of these teams is going to get hot.
Like if you look at the wild card right now, Toronto, Seattle, Tampa Bay are in
Cleveland, Chicago, White Sox and then Baltimore, the next three.
One of those six teams is going to get crazy hot and like, you know,
run away with the wild cards.
That's just going to happen. Absolutely.
Absolutely. And somebody's going to one or two, maybe three teams
are going to lose 10 in a row or lose, you know, eight to 10.
And Baltimore could go, you know, eight and two.
So I mean, there's still so many games to play.
And that's why that's why I love to see so many teams still in contention
for the wild card. And Carl and I talked about this last week on one of our shows.
You never want to see teams talk about the wild card in the first half,
because if they're talking about the wild card in the first half, it's like,
oh, well, you're already you're already giving up on the division.
But now after the All-Star break, teams start to see kind of where they fit in.
And not that you don't still have an opportunity to win that division,
but you see teams just a game or two ahead of you.
And it's like, hey, we're fighting for that spot.
And we still have a legitimate chance to get into that thing.
Yeah. I think we're looking at it from the aspect of like,
what's the best baseball move to make?
And a lot of these teams, I think, are looking at it from a financial aspect.
Probably the Orioles, actually, now that I think about it,
they probably just don't want to pay anyone.
Travelling in cities, they're highest paid players seven or eight.
Actually, I think they're highest paid players.
Actually, Chris Davis, who doesn't play for the team anymore.
Yeah, Peter Angelo,
he's probably like, I'm sick of writing these big paychecks.
Let's make a move and then, you know, let the let the chips.
Yeah, I mean, but like when you have guys and this is what bothers me about sports,
you guys are sports guys.
I know you'll love football, basketball, baseball, hockey.
Does it bother you when you hear you you hear billionaires complaining
about spending money for their team?
Because if you don't like it, if you don't like it,
I guarantee you there's a hundred other billionaires that will line up to buy your team.
The way I look at it, if you're a billionaire and you own a sports team
and you don't care about winning, like go buy it, go buy a natural gas company.
Go make money or something else or just continue like like Peter Angelo's.
Go continue to do asbestos, lawsuits.
Yes, follow your passion, two hundred and two hundred and fifty million per suit
and give the team to somebody else.
Yes, that's that's that's that's that's just bothers me.
And people always like hate on the players.
Oh, they're greedy. No, the owners are cheap.
The owners are cheap.
So we always take the mindset on this show.
We've said it a hundred times, like if you're a billionaire
and you don't buy a sports team, there's something wrong with you, like red flag.
That's the goal.
The goal ultimately is to make enough money to buy a sports team.
Now, that is the rest of your life.
That's your toy.
That is the best toy that you can possibly have.
And like winning a championship or trying to win a championship.
To me, like if you're an owner and you're putting that together,
you're playing like real life fantasy sports and you care about your team.
Like that's that's really ultimately the level that everybody should aspire to get to.
No question. The owners that don't care about that.
It's like, go get into insurance, buy an insurance company.
I don't care. Just don't fuck around with like an entire city's morale.
Right. Like Gary Vee needs to buy a sports team.
Like he need because like he's a competitive dude.
Have you guys had him on the show?
Yeah. No, we haven't had him on the show.
But I mean, he would just I think everyone would like some of his advice
probably would backfire in a sports team where he's like,
think about your whole family getting murdered and then and then go about your day.
Like that shit.
I feel like if he said that to some guys in a clubhouse, they'd be like, what the fuck do you say?
Yeah. Well, yeah, that changes things a little bit.
Maybe they just get really good, though.
Maybe the advice would work.
Maybe they would. So did he did he say that?
Yeah, he's a very person out of a seminar.
Yeah, funny clip.
I just would love for him to like go into an NFL locker room and be like,
everyone here, like imagine your whole family getting murdered.
And then what are you going to do about it?
And like they just all beat the fuck out of him.
Like, fuck you. Yeah, he'd get torn.
Like, yeah, from limb to limb.
Yeah. No. OK.
Maybe he doesn't need it.
Or just don't don't don't address the team if that's what you're I think.
Gary Vee should get a team just like hopefully not my team.
Just somebody else's team. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
Right. But you you guys know what I'm saying.
And like I Peter Angelos and it's not just this is not an attack on him.
It's it's all the teams that complain that they're in a market
that doesn't do well enough to warrant spending a certain type of money on players.
But if I own a team and I'm a billionaire from all these other business ventures,
I'm I'm OK with taking maybe a little bit of a loss
to sign these players to have a shot to win a championship.
Because look, yeah, they're all wealthy.
They're all wealthy.
Now, don't you want to ring?
Yeah. Don't you want to hold that?
Don't you want to hold that trophy or whatever whatever sport you're in?
Don't you want that?
I know I would. Yeah.
I said it on a podcast a couple of weeks ago.
It's like Elon Musk going to Mars.
Like, you know what's cooler than Mars?
The Lombardi trophy.
Like when that that's way cooler than going to Mars.
But that's what ends up happening with all these guys.
I mean, rich people don't like to give away their money.
And that's how they get rich.
And that's how they stay rich is they're usually pretty cheap.
I agree with you, though.
It does drive us insane.
All right. So give us another team or player
that you think is going to make an impact like we, you know,
there's a lot of there's a lot of teams that, you know,
the Yankees are in talks, the Cardinals we mentioned,
the Padres, it feels like the Astros.
Maybe we talk about them for a sec.
They have like seven starting pitchers.
Like, are they going to they're going to do the reverse
where they're they're a clear World Series contender
and they might trade someone because they just have too many guys.
Well, that's that's a that's a serious luxury to have
where you have too much pitching because I don't know
if there's another team that they can say that.
But if there's if there's one guy.
That I would like to see go somewhere else
and have an opportunity to win a ring.
And you have a chance if you trade for this guy,
you need to you need to sign him because he's going to be really good
for the next five, six, maybe seven years is Wilson Contreras.
I mean, he hasn't been traded yet.
And I know that people like they don't want to see him go.
But if you've seen Chris Bryant, Javi, Schwerber and Rizzo go,
you can see anybody play in another uniform.
You see what I'm saying?
So in I mean, look, Wilson, Wilson's Wilson's a crazy person.
But he's also as as dedicated to helping the team win
as anybody I've ever seen.
And he instantly makes you better.
It's I I don't think he makes quite as big of an impact as well on Soto
because who can write pretty damn close.
So all right. So here's my only question about Wilson.
I love Wilson. I hope that I wish the Cubs would would keep him,
but it doesn't seem that way. Yeah.
How hard is it, though, to trade for a catcher at the deadline,
knowing that a catcher in a pitcher's relationship is a huge part of the game?
And you can't build that overnight.
And Wilson, you know, he's not known for, you know, being the best with pitchers.
He's his bat is is is a plus bat as a catcher.
But like, yeah, how much is that weigh in a good point?
Look, I've I've told I've told people this for years.
I've talked about it on our show.
I didn't I think it's it's it's ridiculous when guys have to have
a certain catcher behind the plate.
I think it's I think it's stupid.
I didn't as long as you got to you got a catcher's met behind the plate
and you've gone over the hitters with me in the pregame meeting
and we're on the same page, I don't give a shit.
Like I was a little bit slower to the plate.
And, you know, if if we don't throw the guy at second base,
like maybe that's on me, I'm not going to blame my catcher.
Most of the guys in the big leagues now are adequate enough to get the job done.
So some of these starting pitchers need to
to kind of take a step back and maybe take some of the blame
when things don't go go that well.
If they're giving up multiple stolen bases on inning or or whatever,
like look inward and not outward.
So I think I think the picture catcher relationship obviously is very important.
But you should need to be catered to and have a certain guy behind the plate
for you to have success.
Well, I like that answer.
I didn't expect that.
And I like because, you know, like as sports fans on the other side of it,
we're always taught, you know, like there are guys who need specific catchers
and there are there is that relationship that like some guys feel comfortable with others.
But I like what you're saying, like that, you know, they're all pros out there.
If you're if you're a catcher in the big leagues, you can you're good enough to catch anyone.
That's a fact. That's the fact.
And yeah, you say you said it well, if you're in the big leagues,
your your job description is the same as the next guy.
Yeah, look, I mean, the guy that backs up Wilson Contreras isn't as good.
The guy that backs up JT Romulo isn't as good, but it's still a majorly catcher.
And he's he's busting his ass.
He might not have the best pop time.
He might not be as good defensively, but he's not going to affect my ability
to locate certain pitches.
Now, is there any truth to like certain catchers are really good at calling
games for certain pitchers?
Yeah, yeah, that's true.
But then that that's the the catcher that might not be as good needs
to just spend a little bit more time with with those pitchers that he doesn't catch
as often and, you know, watch video, talk, scouting reports
and and build that relationship and become a little bit closer.
I mean, shit, guys, we're we're at the field from one o'clock
to five or six o'clock before the game starts.
There's plenty of time to sit down and have a 30 minute conversation,
you know, three or four days a week.
Yeah, you know, so I just don't think there's any excuse for it.
Yeah, I like that.
What about another big name trade deadline acquisition that's about to happen?
That's the New York Mets getting Jacob DeGramme.
So let's talk a little Jake on Jake.
Oh, wow. He did some rehab.
You guys know I love I love them.
I love them.
It's like, yeah, it was a great question.
It's like getting a guy at the deadline.
Yeah.
You know, Scherzer's back and he just did what he did at the Yankees,
what he went seven or eight scoreless.
Fuck, man, you just you can't overstate enough
how important he is to the game of baseball and the New York Mets.
And if they if they can find a way just to score a few runs of the game,
they're they're going to win that division.
Yes, there's no there's no down my mind because Max is a freak.
We know DeGramme's a freak when he's healthy.
They just need to hope that he can stay on the mound all the way through October.
So what's that like for him?
Because he's made some rehab starts.
He pitched very well.
He's going to I think they're going to put him out on the mound on Tuesday this week.
And there's going to be a lot of adrenaline in the system.
I think he was already hitting 100 miles per hour in the miners and rehab starts.
So he's got the velocity, all that stuff.
The adrenaline that he's going to feel when he comes out there.
Does he have to like limit himself?
Is that a real thing where you can get too excited about that first game back?
Because like he needs he's dominant enough when he's pitching, you know,
90 percent of his of his maximum velocity.
How would he go about like regulating that and being like, OK,
I'm excited to get back out here, but I have to do it smart.
Well, I'm sure that he's probably had conversations with the front office
and the coaching staff about a pitch count and trying to trying to
monitor that monitor his his energy level, his adrenaline.
But look, this is this is DeGramme's, you know, eighth or ninth season.
So it's not like he's a he's he's fresh out of the out of the draft
and coming off an injury and going to go out there and try and throw the ball
as hard as he physically can.
And DeGramme is a he's a biomechanical freak.
Like he's a guy who is basically just built in a lab and in.
Just built to pitch.
If you if you look at his body and the way he moves, he's like he's like Zack Wheeler.
They're they're extremely mobile.
They're they're muscular, they're long and lanky.
And they, you know, hopefully he can sustain that adrenaline
and not not be not be harmed by it.
I don't think he will.
I think he has a low heart rate.
He knows how to control that.
And I think he's going to be fine.
But but I'm sure that conversation has been had amongst him, the coaching staff
and the front office. I always like calling a player freak.
I like that whenever I hear like this guy, this guy's freak.
I'm like, wow, that's dangerous.
So yeah, who are your top three freaks in Major League Baseball right now?
Oh, it's good because it segues to a question I had new segment freak me out.
Yeah, I have one freak that I'll give you after.
So you do three and I'll give you a fourth.
All right. So so I got to go with DeGramme.
And look, I've blown the guy for years.
I just think he's the best and I've said this.
I think he's the best starting pitcher to ever put the uniform on
if he stays healthy.
People might some people might think that's crazy.
Some people love it.
I just watching him, you know, live and on TV.
He came out of a game.
We were playing them.
I was with Philly.
He struck out nine out of 10 and he had a little shoulder tweak in the fourth
or fifth inning, but is the best shit I've ever seen ever from any, any pitcher.
So he's one.
And then, man, it's like flip a coin.
I don't want to pick two from the same team, but you got Stanton and in judge.
I don't know.
So let's just pick.
Let's let's make them two, two A and two B.
And then I think I think Trey Turner.
I'm going to say Trey Turner just because he popped in my head
just with his ability to hit for power, his defense and his base run.
Five. All right.
So I got the fourth freak for you and I want your take on him
because we're we're the number one podcast for this guy.
I'll set it up with someone told me that I trust who has, you know,
good baseball knowledge said that there's a five point five percent chance
he could end up being the best baseball player of all time,
which is a crazy thing to say, but it's also a half a percent, right?
Is it Julio? No, O'Neill Cruz.
He's a freak.
It's a crazy thing to say, but it also makes you like that.
Think about it. You're like, oh, fuck, I got to I got to pay attention.
That's that's a nice call.
And didn't he I remember seeing him in the minor leagues
and didn't he struggle for a couple of years, which which is totally fine to do.
It's normal.
But I remember seeing him like in triple A a year or two ago
and he wasn't having great years and then all of a sudden,
like sometimes shit just clicks and I didn't realize this kid was six foot seven.
Yes, he's a freak.
Is it true? Is it true that he runs like Tyreek Hill?
Is that true?
He's so fast.
And then I the the the thing that like made me be like, what the fuck?
They were playing the Cubs and he threw from shortstop to first base.
They tracked it. It was like, I think it was like 97.
Yeah. And then he also has power.
And it's like, who is this guy?
He's got big power. He's got big power.
I saw I saw him hit a ball out to right center field in PNC.
They almost went out of the stadium like that.
You know, you see guys hit balls in the waters like dead, pulled down the line.
But you don't see a ball go out of the stadium in right center field.
So that's that special.
I told I was telling a lot of people this.
He's the best player the Pirates have had since Andrew McCutcheon.
And, you know, and not every team can be top of the division,
especially, you know, in the, you know, central, you got to deal with the Brewers
and you got to deal with the Cardinals.
So he is a freak and maybe he's going to end up, I hate to say it,
but like a guy like Joey Vado, who ends up just kind of rotting away in Cincinnati.
It has a Hall of Fame career, but never gets to play in the postseason.
Yeah. That would be a very big bummer.
How would you rate Frank Schwindel in terms of his freakiness on the mound, just as a pitcher?
Well, I don't really like seeing position players out there on the mound anymore
because they all just kind of lob it in there.
Yeah, like they're all kind of scared that they're going to hit somebody
or they can't throw strikes and they talk a lot of shit when, you know,
they're not on the mound like, oh, you know, I got a slider.
I can, I can, you know, change speeds.
Like I got a little cutter like bullshit.
We see the guys get out there and they're lobbing in at 42 miles an hour.
So I don't like it.
I don't. Yeah. I don't like his ability on the mound.
I like his I like his unorthodox swing because man, the guy can really hit a heater,
but I don't want to see him pitch.
All right. Do we get your can we get your midseason?
By the way, everyone should listen to Starting 9 with Carl and Jake.
Two episodes a week. Great.
It's it's a great, great baseball podcast.
Do we have your World Series pick?
Because I'm sure you gave one before the season,
but we're going to give you a second chance.
Do it right now. We'll just say this is your pick and you can be right.
And we'll give you all the credit in the world.
Well, so this is my pick. I like a subway series.
Yes. I like the New York Mets against the New York Yankees.
I think with the Grom insurers are back at 100 percent.
I think the Mets find a way to separate themselves even further
and win that division.
And I don't I don't see anybody slowing down the Yankees.
I just I just really don't.
I want to see judge hit 85 homers this year.
Yes. And I want to see Rizzo and Matt Carpenter get a ring
along with the rest of those guys. I like that team.
I also like the Mets, you know, Colin,
our producer is a diehard Mets fan.
I know he's probably going to be pissed at me when he hears me say
I want to see the Yankees get a ring.
But just seeing a subway series, I think it's good for the game of baseball.
Obviously, it's good for, you know,
the Northeast and New York in particular.
So that's my pick.
And it's good for me.
I bet it 14 to one two months ago.
Oh, you're good on that.
Yeah, that's famous last words.
Do you want to see the Yankees get a ring because just like
it would be good for baseball for the Yankees to win another World Series?
Are you just saying?
Are you just saying that because you've got friends like I want them to win?
Yeah, you know, with with what happened to Carpenter,
like he decided to play another season.
He was with Texas. He opted out.
He goes to the Yankees and it ends up hitting, you know, six or seven homers
in like two weeks. You got to pull for Rizzo.
My son, Cooper, got to meet judge at the All-Star Game.
And now it's his new favorite player.
Just, you know, I like those guys.
I like Eric Cole, you know, Zach Britton.
He's not pitching right now, but he's one of my boys.
So I like that clubhouse, but I also like the Mets.
So if both of those teams get there, let the best team win and I'll be happy.
It'd be great for Barstool content because we've got a lot of Yankees
and Mets fans running around here. So it'd be crazy, man.
It would be crazy.
All right. I had one last question.
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All right. This is the dumbest question you'll probably ever get.
But I, we like dumb rules in on this show.
I don't know if you saw, but I threw out the first pitch at the Sag Harbor
Whalers game on Friday. No big deal. They won a championship today.
So some are saying it's because I gave a speech to the team.
I've been a diehard Sag Harbor Whalers fan since Friday and they won a
championship three days later. Here's a dumb rule and you can tell me
this is the dumbest rule ever. The first pitch should count.
It should count as a ball and strike.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
How great would that be though? It's like, so the home team always gets
to pick the first pitcher and like someone will like air mail.
It's like, so the first batter gets up there and it's a 1-0 count.
The first pitch should count.
Now where'd you come up with that?
I just thought of it when I did, I threw it so fast, Jake.
It was like 92 miles an hour, but it was no way out of the zone.
Got catcher, made me look good. He gave a little hop up.
I was like, you know what, that should be a ball for the Sag Harbor
Whalers. Like I fucked up. The first pitch should count.
Well, I mean, it would add a little bit more pressure into the situation.
The guy throwing it, like the guys in the dugout. Hey, motherfucker,
like you, this needs to be over the plate. Right.
But so you have to, I would assume that you're saying that you have to
throw it from the rubber.
None of that front of the mountain bullshit.
Have to throw it from the rubber.
It's it's one of those things where it wouldn't actually probably change
any outcomes of the game because it's one pitch. It's inconsequential,
but it would add a fun wrinkle of like, well, who is it?
Sydney Sweeney throughout the first pitch, Hank, you were saying the other day.
Like that should count. Yeah.
Like 50 cent, throwing it a million feet to the left.
That should count. That should be all one.
Yeah. Was it a quarterback that like hit the camera, dude, in the nuts?
Oh, yeah. Who was that?
There's a football player just right in the house.
She is wearing him up. It should count.
It would be a lecture. Like think about how great George Bush's first pitch
would have been if it counted as one. Yeah, that's straight one on the batter.
Yeah. And he exactly.
And then you got Nolan Ryan and thrown at 92 at 60 miles an hour.
And I think each row did the same thing.
Didn't you throw a full uniform?
Full uniform. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, he just wants to keep playing baseball forever.
But you tell me, I mean, like it's dumb when you think about it,
but then you start talking about it.
Like how fun would it be?
First pitch would have a lot more meaning.
First pitch. It'd be fun.
It'd be fun to bet on too.
Yeah. I'm with you.
They would just have players do it.
They would just be like, they are.
Our picture that retired last year.
Yeah, rules that you can't have.
You can't have anyone who played baseball at a professional level.
But hey, but think about this, though, even if it's a former player,
like that doesn't guarantee a strike. True. True.
That's true.
Shit ton of first pitch balls in my career.
Yeah. Here's another dumb rule.
Have you ever considered just like not having a catcher for the first two strikes
that you have? So it's just the umpire.
And you get another player out in the field because you get nine players still.
So you put another guy like in between shortstop and second base.
And then you just say you're just throwing it directly at the umpire.
Directly at the umpire because you don't need to catch her for that pitch.
If there's nobody on base.
I don't think the umpires would would go for that, man.
I mean, I think they're going to need their salary to go up a tick.
Probably not. It would be.
It's a funny thing to imagine, though,
just like imagine Joe West just getting hit in his neck on a first pitch fastball.
Great. Right. Right.
He's got like that turkey gobbler.
He's got a nice old chin protector.
Nice man. Nice. Nice man.
But he's got a lot of neck skin. I like that. Nice man. Fat fuck.
Nice man. A lot of.
I have another dumb question about about this year because we it seems about like
two weeks from now, there will be a story that comes out about the balls.
Like the balls have changed over the course of the year.
How what where are we at on the balls and how they've performed this year?
It's a giant conspiracy, man. It's a huge conspiracy.
But what what pitchers don't like is when balls are just taken out of the wrapper
and put in the put in the ball bag.
And I know there's this in the rule book.
It says balls are supposed to be rubbed up by a team employee
like a certain amount of time before the game.
And and each ball takes 45 seconds in this amount of mud.
Like, who knows if it's if they're actually following those rules.
You got a clubby that's sitting back there with a dip in and probably hung over
and just like, here you go, a little bit of mud.
And then he might skip a few and then like it's it's inconsistent.
And you saw when to para, he's, you know, reliever for the angels, I believe, at the time.
And he's just like, he gets a ball from the umpire.
He's pitching against Seattle.
Nope, throws it out, gets another one.
No, throws it out.
He's like, these fucking balls aren't rubbed up.
So that's that's what pitchers don't like.
And my only thing is like, if they're changing the balls with the way
that they fly and more drag, less drag, just let the players know
because we don't we don't really care.
Just be transparent about it. That's all that's all we all we ask.
Yeah, that makes sense.
All right. Well, Jake, thank you.
You got to come up to New York.
If there's a subway series, you got to be here for every game.
But I don't know about it.
We got to get you in the office in the mix, but we appreciate you coming on.
Everyone go listen to Starting 9 with Carl.
Appreciate it. We'll see you soon.
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OK, we're going to wrap up the show.
We got a show announcement, kind of a bittersweet one, actually bitter,
but we do well, no, it is it's sad, but we we do know that people
are very invested in us as a podcast and we're a family.
So we wanted to talk about it so that people can hear it from us
instead of being like what happened.
So Hank, do you want to take it away?
Or this is more, you know, kind of my world behind the scenes stuff.
Liam, obviously, was the first first intern we hired him and Billy was
like the content intern.
Liam was the behind the scenes intern to help me.
And he's been with us the whole time and been riding riding by my side
through the fires, through the ups and downs, highs and lows.
Yeah, and I don't even really that's where it's like it's obviously
complicated because there's a lot of stuff that goes on behind the scenes.
And it's not really that big a deal.
It's not a huge.
That's why I was laughing earlier when you were like huge announcements.
It's not really like a huge announcement.
It's more just kind of we're just switching things around, basically.
Like Liam's going to be switching in the video department to more
like what his skill set is, more what he's suited to.
Obviously, when I switched roles, he kind of took over what my role was in terms
of show stuff and more of like the, I guess, organization and kind of
like administrative stuff with the podcast and less of like the editing
and all that stuff.
And we're basically just bringing in someone else to kind of do that.
And Liam's going to still be doing, still be doing the pick up,
still be doing advisors, still be working with us on various shows,
but just kind of staying in that more like editing produce, like editing
graphics type role.
And we're bringing on someone else to do the administrative stuff.
I'm going to miss Bubba.
Bubba's a great guy.
Wait, no, it's not about Liam.
Huh?
No, we're talking about Liam.
What do you mean?
Bubba's staying.
Bubba's staying.
No, I just know that some people are going to be like, wait, what?
Who's Liam and who's Bubba?
You just confused the shit out of me.
But they're the same person everyone knows.
I'm going to miss Bubba.
I'm going to miss him.
I love, he's a guy that has an infectious laugh.
So no matter what happens, if somebody says something remotely funny,
Liam laughs and then everybody else laughs.
And you have to have a guy like that in the room.
It just helps everybody out.
Good guy.
Love you, Bubba.
We'll still be working with you on some other stuff.
I'm sure no one can fill those shoes.
I say we get another guy who's colorblind.
Well, so here's the thing is we part of the thing that Hank didn't mention here
is that when Billy was suspended, he did come back and, you know, he did his
own interviews during a suspension.
He learned premiere.
So Billy's now going to be the producer and Billy's going to feel the
role of what Bubba's been doing.
Because you did say you were an incredible premiere, right?
I never said that.
No, you said that you learned premiere.
I learned.
I learned.
I was making a switch.
So you're the producer now.
You told me you were proficient at premiere.
Yeah.
Come on, guys.
So you're going to do all the editing.
No, no, you should do it for.
OK, we'll give you a two week trial period.
We have to edit every show for two weeks.
It's a great opportunity.
And then if you don't like it, you don't have to keep doing it.
But if you do like it, then I feel like this is a nice way for you to be like
more active and hands on with the show.
Is this real?
I'll do it.
No, I'll do it for we actually when we when we when Hank PFT and I were
talking a couple weeks ago, we're like, we should just do a hidden
camera and tell Billy that because he's so good at premiere, he has to produce
the whole show now and watch you freak out.
Wait, do you actually cut the recording in premiere or do you use another?
OK, this is Billy.
We're joking.
You're not actually doing it.
All right.
So what I got to say in the end, Bob is going to get to talk here and in
and talk to the AWLs.
I love Liam.
I, you know, he is been a guy with us who's been with us
for pretty much the entire time.
What I'll say for on Liam's behalf, this job is not easy
and the burnout is real.
And like when people see us here till two in the morning on a Sunday,
Liam's here till fucking six in the morning on a Sunday.
And I think there's an element of like it's just a lot, a lot of really
long hours and a lot of demanding moments.
And he's always come through.
And I think this is going to be good for everyone.
Again, he's not going anywhere.
He's going to produce Pickham, you know, which I'm on.
He's going to produce advisors like he's not going anywhere.
He's going to be still around.
But I do think that like there's a part of this where it's almost
natural where it's like the burnout is crazy and I want him to have his life back too.
So we will have someone new coming on Wednesday.
We'll introduce him.
We'll fill everyone in on it.
But Bubba, whatever you want to say, I mean, we love you.
It's there is there are no hard feelings here.
We've had long talks about it.
And I think we're all on the same page, but you are a big part of the show
and have been a big part of the show.
So we wanted to make sure you get the proper send off.
Yeah, no, I appreciate it.
I do just want to say as well, like falling up on that.
Like there's no hard feelings like whatsoever about it.
Like Hank had wanted to do things differently, essentially.
And basically, besides like my fucking like parents putting a roof over my head,
like nobody has done more for me than like everybody in this room in my life, essentially.
If I had had regrets, like things would be different.
But it's like, I'm very proud of all the work that I've done, like for part of my
take and everything over the past five years.
And like you guys are all like family to me.
And I'm still going to be around.
And so just like basically in a better spot to like use my skill set to succeed.
And Big Cat, like you had said as well, too, like I couldn't have worked until four
am the rest of my life.
So at some at some point is I was not going to be able to do that.
Correct.
And so this is basically a good time to transition into something different.
And you're going to still be around us and we're going to see you every day.
And like I said, like there's not it's not a goodbye.
It's just, you know, a switch.
And I'm pumped for you to not have to sit in a cave with us every Sunday for 17
hours because I like we get to make jokes and you would have to sit there and listen
and then edit it.
I always was like, holy fuck, how are you guys doing this?
I think too, like part of it and like, I guess more just going to like the little
more like explanation or like it's like it was obviously like forever.
It was like kind of me being on top of everything.
And then like Liam was helping me out and then, but I'm still here kind of.
And there was just like, I guess not.
It was it was just a weird, it was a different dynamic.
And this is just more like a clear role change where it's like very like the
rules are defined.
It's a new person that's coming in like knows exactly like what, what kind of
it's just more like split in and like makes everything a little bit like,
again, like more defined and Liam is still going to be doing what he's doing
just in a different department.
I think this is going to be very, you're going to be very, very happy in a couple
of weeks and be like, oh, shit, this kicks ass.
Yeah, we're just not having to work on Sundays.
Those hours are not sustainable for anybody.
So thank you for doing it.
As long as you did, you did a great job and we love you.
You were a huge part of this podcast growing to where it is today.
Huge part like this.
We're here because like you said, you know, giving us a compliment,
like it goes the other way.
We're as a podcast to where we are because you took risks in your life to,
you know, you, you got dropped out of college.
He was like, Hey, I'm not going to go back to college.
I was like, Hey, we can't pay you.
And he's like, I'm still going to drop out.
I was like, OK, but like we can't pay you.
No, as a full-time employee for like six months, I think.
I remember when Liam told me that and I was like, that's a ballsy thing.
But like, yeah, you know, like this is what the sacrifice.
I would never go back to college.
So I'm not going to tell you to.
If you want to drop out like that, we would I would love to have you around
because I need your help, but like we can't pay you.
And it also speaks to like a lot of people, you know, want to be,
you know, work at Parstall or be a part of this show.
And like Liam is the perfect testament of like what the sacrifices
he had to make in his life in like dropping out of college,
like working really late every night, like all these things.
He made a ton of sacrifices to get where he is.
And now in a weird way, he's getting rewarded in some parts of his life.
We're going to change him for the better.
And we'll see cars more easily under commute home.
Well, that was my last question.
It's a robot question.
It's a robot question.
Robac.com, R-H-O-B-A-C-K dot com.
Yeah, well, I wanted to send him out with a robot question.
Go ahead. You didn't actually get hit by a car, right?
I did. I was just, I was also going to say for the...
I'd be great if you're like, yeah, I paid that whole thing up, guys.
Yeah, no, no. That was all made up.
I got crossed over real bad at the park.
Just a Friday night prank.
No, the, definitely you guys like having faith in me and everything
led me to be able to like take those types of chances.
And so just for anybody who wants to think about how much
Barstall Van Talk sucked, when I dropped out of college to work on that
and then I got canceled a week later.
Yeah, that's right. He's totally...
So it did suck for me a little bit, too.
Yeah, that was like a galvanizing moment for us.
Like all getting to experience that sucked together will always have,
like being in the worst, like most, like down of places.
And then growing out of that altogether is one.
Like we are going to miss you on the show a lot.
Yeah, just getting shot to J-MO after being like this sucks.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I got so high and I got lost in that Call of Duty commercial.
I used to tell, like we used to, I mean, back, I mean, again,
like one day the whole Barstall Van Talk story would come out,
but there was months and months of before it got announced
where like we would talk and you guys were like feeling good about it
and then you guys would leave.
I'm like, there's no fucking way it's going to happen.
Like it's all going to fall apart, like blah, blah, blah, blah.
And like I was just always like, dude, like it's just we're going to get fucked.
Like it's just not going to, it's not never going to come out.
And then it like came out and it was like public.
It's like, we're doing the show and then it got canceled.
And I was like, yeah.
And Liam took the risk and then that got canceled in his face.
Last, last thing, did you and Jake ever squash your beef?
Because I know he said that he hated you.
And he was like, good.
That's why I lean wanted to leave.
Yeah, no, it was that was the real behind the scenes thing.
Not, not, not what happened.
That wrong good terms now.
OK, so you're, but you're like, you're like the Lannisters.
You just got rid of another one.
Yeah, now now Billy's on the block.
He's still best in the office.
Look out, Billy.
No, but yeah, pick him will be great because he's going to, you know,
Liam's going to be dedicated to that and advisors and everything else.
So again, he's not going anywhere.
We know where he sits.
He's going to be around us all the time.
But thank you from the bottom of my heart,
from the bottom of all of our hearts for everything you've done for this show.
And shout out your dad.
He's the fucking man.
He's the epitome of your mom and your mom.
But every time. No, but every time
Bubba tells a story about his dad, it's like a total dudes rock moment.
So yeah, no, he loves us, right?
I think I'll still listen.
Yeah, no, you'll have to.
You'll have to.
Whenever he does something that's dude rocks, you got to come and tell.
Yeah, I'll fill it in.
Yes. And until then, continue to tag Bubba and all the dingers
that you see the massive ones.
Yes, yes. Absolutely.
OK, and also, you know, send them colors to to try to decide.
Pantone check. Yeah.
Again, I think you will be like there will be times when you'll,
you know, we're going to have to have you check in.
And I do want to hear stories when your dad does dudes rocks things.
Yeah, no, I'm always around.
Yeah. All right.
Numbers. This would be cool if you got it.
But no pressure. Five.
Watch Hank steal the moment.
80 corporate.
Hank strikes again.
Twenty six.
What would your backup number be, Bubba, if you had one?
I don't know, nine.
All right, I guess.
Bill Russell. No, six.
All right, so I guess nine is the backup.
Well, Billy.
No, I guess 11 for you.
Backup Mounted Championships.
Yeah, right. That's what I meant.
Oh, do it for Bill.
Eleven.
Oh, my God.
Was it there?
Sixty eight. Oh, my God.
It's tough break.
Bubba, you want to do the honors?
Love you guys.
Emu's once beat the Australian army in a war.
You see that emu on the dog?
Yeah. Do you see what's name?
Was that emu? No.
A manual. The manual is an emu.
Is he an emu?
That guy was fucking awesome.
Did you see the emu?
That's a wide receiver talking about football being back.
I'll send you a video. It's awesome.
By the way. Oh, yeah.
When he made that quick cut down the sideline on that dog.
Yeah. By the way, a quick correction.
OK.
I don't actually.
There's no premiere.
There's now day.
I figured out how to edit and export something on a career.
It's it's pretty hard.
Yeah, but I figured out.
I'm not saying I'm anywhere close to anywhere
with these guys who do, but.
Also, I was I was going to unfollow PMT
to then see how long it took memes to figure out.
No, I was like, it would probably be like under over
twenty four hours.
So there's day trips to Antarctica
that you don't have to get your spleen removed.
I knew it. That's plain appendix.
Oh, yeah. Appendix.
OK, so correction.
But if you stay there over the winter, you have to get it done.
Right. That makes sense.
Nice correction.
Who's taking a fucking day trip to Antarctica?
It turns out there's a day trip from like Patagonia, Brazil.
Oh, yeah. That's the one I was afraid I was going to have to go on one day.
Yeah, it's not even like real Antarctica.
OK, Bubba again.
Love you guys. OK.
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