Pardon My Take - Jameis Winston, The Bears And Commanders Are On A Crash Course To Trade, Super Bowl Week And More

Episode Date: February 5, 2024

We've arrived in Las Vegas for Super Bowl Week and the Commanders have hired Kliff Kingsbury and it looks like the Bears and Commanders may be trade partners (00:00:00-00:16:27). We talk about our flight out to Vegas and Max had a very unfortunate trip sitting next to a journalist who has reported he farted all flight (00:16:27-00:35:40). Who's back of the week including Shane Gillis and College Basketball (00:35:40-00:48:19). Jameis Winston joins the show in studio to talk about his career, eating W's, being an all time vibes guy, Florida State and tons more (00:48:19-02:18:05). We finish with a Grammy's recap from Max and Memes (02:18:05-02:31:25).You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/PardonMyTake

Hey, pardon my take listeners, you can find every episode on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen, ad-free, on Amazon Music. On today's pardon my take, James Winston. We got him. He came to the office for a full day. We've been sitting on it for about three weeks now, just waiting for this interview to come out.

It was everything we wanted and more. I love James. It was the best. I love James a little bit of something for everybody in this interview. Yes, yes. So incredible interview to kick off Super Bowl week. We are here in Las Vegas. We're going to do who's back the week. We're going to talk about Cliff Kingsbury, the Commanders. We're going to talk about Max being the grossest person in the world to sit next to an airplane. And then at the end of the show, because it's the first Monday that we've had without football to talk about, we will have Max and memes recap the Grammys. So they're they're they're in charge right

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Oh no, we gonna rock it down to electric I renew And then we'll take it higher. Oh, we don't all rock it down to electric. It's part of my take. There's an episode of our sports. Welcome to part of my take. Today is Monday, February 5th, and boys, James Winston episode. Very excited about this.

James is the best. He's the best. He hung out for about like what four hours Maybe longer than that. It played some basketball with him. He put us through some drills We got some videos coming the MTV coming out on Thursday He he ate some meals with Donnie I believe it was it was the hardest thing to have to sit on this interview because he came Three weeks ago, and we knew that like if we showed that he was in the office people like we want the interview right now which totally understand because I wanted to post the interview right away. We were

like Super Bowl week, another white whale checked off the list. We did not sing, stay down on the corner to him. That was the only regret I had. Sorry. Yeah. I mean, big catch right. We've sat on a lot of really hard stuff before and this was definitely the hardest and the longest we've had to sit on something. Yes. Yes. You get it Hank? This is a sex joke.

Did you do sex? Did you do sex problem? But it's an awesome interview. So get excited. It's going to be great. We got some stuff we got to talk about before. What do we want to do first? Well, we can let the speculation begin.

Okay, yeah, let's talk about this. Cliff Kingsbury to the commanders. So per Adam Schafter, let the speculation begin. Cliff Kingsbury coached Caleb Williams last season. Williams was a standout quarterback at Gonzaga High School in DC. The commanders currently hold the number two overall pick and are in striking distance.

So per Adam Schafter, let the speculation begin. I'm going to speculate so hard. I'm going to theorize. I'm going to postulate all over the place. I'm going to oh my god, I'm going to contemplate and it's going to be great. And the fact of the matter is that this is a trade that could happen between the commanders and the bears, which could tear this podcast apart. That's one thing that definitely could happen. And Hank's very happy about that. It'd be a lot more vacation time for you, Hank.

It's also a good possibility that given the draft history and the trade history that we both have in our franchises past, we might both fuck this up. Well, I would say I would make the guess right now that the commanders have already fucked this up because no one has overplayed their hand more than the commanders have already overplayed their hand. They had Kale Williams' dad given being a source to Colin Coward earlier in the week retracted but at first he was like I'm hearing out of Kale Williams' camp that doesn't want to play in Chicago. You think the commanders told him to do that?

No, no, I'm saying Kale saying, I think Cale Williams probably wants to play. I'm saying Cale Williams, dad overplayed that hand. Got it. Then they got Cliff Kingsbury overplaying that hand where you get the connection. It's very clear that they want Cale Williams. So I'm fine with trading the number one pick for all of the picks. OK, so I want all of the picks. You guys have overplayed your hand to the point where it's like

obvious that you're lusting for this guy I am and that's a bad spot to be in a negotiation three months out Okay, so I've got the draft value chart right here Purging all the pics I agree throw it out because we have the second overall Well, you guys can basically because if you're not gonna take Caleb one you can take whoever you're gonna take anyways it too, right? Fuck the draft value chart. I wrote down a few things that I would like and we can take whoever you're gonna take anyways, it too, right? Fuck the draft value chart. I wrote down a few things that I would like and we can start in the negotiation here.

Okay. No. One, Terry McClaren. No. The pick back for Montez Sweatt. No. I want the commander's new name to be the junior bears. And I also want to, yeah, that would be cool.

I'm into the junior bears. Yeah, the junior bears. Someone's like, oh, that's the Cubs. No, I want junior bears. Junior bears again. And then I want Tyrese Maxie on the junior bears. Yeah, the junior bears. Oh, that's the Cubs. No, I want junior bears. Junior bears again. And then I want Tyrese Maxie on the Bulls. Okay. Yeah, I'm going to authorize starting my negotiation.

Okay, I'm going to authorize Tyrese Maxie and the junior bears. I did hear there was, it was very funny. The Ben Johnson fallout was a big time. He said he said situation where Ben Johnson claimed there was reports of Ben Johnson thought they were too much they weren't football guys. They were too much basketball guys and then the commanders were like he didn't he didn't interview well and wanted too much money. Yeah. And everyone's finger pointing but I like the idea that he walked in and was

like smells like basketball in here. I don't like this. So I will authorize Tyrese Maxie on behalf of Josh Harris. That's fine. We'll trade him. I would take. I would throw him in. We'll throw him in. He's hurt. I don't want to bum me. He could be a nice piece.

Yeah. So we'll do both of those. And then I'm also looking through who do you want from the devils? The guy who Frank said he broke his. The guy that broke it. Jack Hughes. Yeah. Jack Hughes. I'll give you Jack Hughes and Tyrese Maxi and we'll toss in Joellen Bede. And I would be willing to the first pick by the way the first pick in the draft for the

next three years, I would be willing to also throw in the Montez sweat pick because that's a nice humiliation thing where it's like, oh, we gave you this pick. Yeah, actually, no, we got him for free. I'm going to give you a second overall pick. No to Terry McLaurin. The next year's first after that's first second round pick, which really all by the draft value chart, all the commanders would need to do by this, since we do have the second pick. It would actually be an overpay if we just threw in pick 34. Well, guess what, you're overpaying. You're overpaying because you guys have made it very clear you want Cale Williams and that was the dumbest thing you can do. Now what if hypothetically there was a guy by the name of Eli Manning that got drafted a while ago? You remember him? Yeah.

So Eli, he actually got drafted by the Chargers, which is crazy. And then he went up there, took a picture, did the whole thing. And then his dad told the Chargers, he's not gonna play down in San Diego, we're gonna have to work some sort of trade out here. Now what if Cale Williams' dad, who seems to also have no problems going in front of the press, what if he says to the Bears, my son's not gonna play for you?

What's Cale Williams' dad's name? I'm not sure. What's his last name, Williams? Oh, so it's not Manning? It's first name. Okay, so then we can just throw that out. Okay. Because I mean Archie Manning is the shadow commissioner. That's why that's not Manning. Okay. So then we can just throw that out. Okay. Because

I mean Archie Manning is the shadow commissioner. That's why that happened. That's a fact. And the last time the other time was John Elway because he's gonna play for the Yankees. Is Kale Williams gonna go play for the Yankees? He might. Okay. Well, maybe he should start throwing some baseball learned baseball buddy. That would actually be great if somehow they got in touch with the learners and they said, Hey, we need the national to also draft Kale Caleb. We know that he's not a baseball player, but just draft him. Listen, it's, it's going to be an interesting couple months of speculation. I just know that the hand has been overplayed by the commanders as quickly as it could possibly be. I will, I will overplay that if there's anything you know about me, it's that I overplay every hand that I have. Yeah.

So I'm happy to deal with this one. And on top of all that, a certain friend of the program who sometimes shares thoughts with Henry Lockwood has said that he actually thinks Drake may be the better quarterback. Interesting. He's been getting in my ear about that. Who's this guy? I don't know. He's got a dog avatar. He looks like Hank. Oh, oh, yeah. It was basically Hank. He's a bears fan. No, I now I am. Great takes. Yeah. Great takes. Great takes. I am a little concerned about having a quarterback named Caleb potentially. Well, if you get quarterbacks named Caleb They're they're funny guys and they're good glue guys You want morale they got if you want a supervisor morale if you want them to interview your other star players with their fat friend in

The podcast with them. Yeah, I think that'd be great. But I don't know about a quarterback named Caleb. Well, just go with the UNC quarterback. Would you ever quarterback in Caleb or quarterback that went to UNC? That was kind of awkward that Drake made in Sam Howell. We're sitting next to each other at the Duke UNC game. And Drake made a joke, by the way, Duke is done. Drake made so much taller. Yeah. Duke is done forever.

Yeah. They're a joke. I watched I came for the first half. I was like, it's a joke. They're a joke. So if you want Terry McClourin, I said no. Once you want Marvin Harrison Jr. and then you have a great wide receiver quarter. You stay out of this. I'm just asking. That's a good question, Hank, because if you're trading the number one overall pick, then I would assume that you would not want to take that guy first overall. You could still get whoever you wanted with the second overall pick.

Yeah, I want as many weapons. I want everything. We're going to get everything. Weapons for Justin. No, for whoever we take number two. Got it. Who might be the better quarterback? This is just going to be... According to Tom Farnelli. It's not going to be good for the podcast.

No. It's not. This is great. But maybe it's going to be great. Hank's just looking for anybody else to take he today because he's a little bit nervous be about his special little show That's coming up on Tuesday, and I understand that but be honest for a second like if the commanders do trade for cable Williams, they are gonna have to overpay at this point They have overplayed their hand like it's the one the one thing that happens with drafts is if it's very obvious

One team wants some guy and worse in the bears are sitting there at one like yeah Okay, now you have to pay a ton for and you know what like it's not gonna be a regular like I'm a do one I'm expecting unless he does pull an Eli Manning. I am expecting a little bit of an overpay Eli Manning was a Manning right they did the Manning's run everything Well, I mean Caleb Williams was asking people for like equity in the Those were ML football accounts. I Give Caleb Williams gets drafted one overall by the Bears. He's gonna be playing for the Bears Okay, it's a possibility that he might not though. That's all I'm how it's a possibility. What doing what?

Yeah, I just don't see like then the then like it just doesn't make sense It's probably not gonna happen, but a lot of money, but it could and it's in terms of an overpay Yeah, there's gonna be an overpay there because you number one Caleb Williams is he's been projected for the last like three years As being this franchise change a quarterback So there will be a little bit of an overpay built into it But at least knowing that we've got high picks in the second round. We have the Montez sweat pick. I still, to me, as long as it's not like multiple firsts. Oh, I need at least two firsts. I've heard on shows before people talk about like, if you could, you know, there was no

salary capper, you could start a team tomorrow. Yeah, speculate. You would take Patrick Mahomes first and do whatever it takes to get Patrick Mahomes because he's that much more valuable to your franchise Yeah, so don't you think it'd be worth worth it if you could get a guy like that I'd say to pay a lot I'd say for if we're getting a top five quarterback or a guy that would evolve into a top five quarterback in the NFL I would say that a little bit overpayment is actually an underpayment all the picks

So in every pick for the rest of time so we're gonna their. So on every pick for the rest of time. So we're gonna, are there picks or a, All the picks for the rest of time, I take all the picks for the rest of time. All the picks for the rest of time. Got it. That's how I'd negotiate. Commander Caleb, it might happen. I don't know.

It is weird how Cliff, he was gonna be the OC for the Raiders. And that seemed like it was a done deal. And then he backed out of that the last second and next thing you know, he's going to DC. It's almost like he knew something was in order. Oh, I would imagine that some or is cooking more logical thing is the commanders are desperate to try to get killed Williams. So like we got to get Cliff Kingsbury and overpay for him when that be more than you'll hack it when that be more logical and you're thinking about it only the benefits you

I mean, you're thinking about it only that benefits you when it also be logical that the commanders are like, we need to figure out a way to kill Williams. Let's pay Cliff Kingsbury a ton of money to come here. Yeah, which came first, chicken or the egg. I don't know. I don't think anybody knows what happened, but I would assume that either we overpay Cliff like a motherfucker, which we probably don't need to do because he's still collecting that fat check from the Cardinals, right? The one where he said he was going to go live in Thailand for like

nine years. So I don't know if we're overpaying and we might be, but if we're not, then I have to think that he had it in the back of his head that something's going to go down in DC that's not going to go down in Vegas. Yeah, I just don't think anything has been decided yet. So I don't know how like Josh, I mean, he's a basketball guy. So he probably doesn't know how football is. It's all speculation. And we're just speculating. Adam Schafer told us to let the speculation begin.

This is all pure speculation, but I do know that I would be very happy with Caleb Williams. He would make my little heart grow three sizes that day. You have to pay a lot for him. A lot. Well, a lot. He's probably going to suck anyway. We'll keep this going.

If he ends up being traded. Man, imagine that. Then we got Cliff, hot young offense coordinator. Yeah, because we got you. We got awesome. We share with Clif writer of men. USC was awesome to share with Clif. Caleb was pretty good. No, today game game. Good play this game. Okay, I'm basically taking everything that people all the Justin Field stands use against me when I say I want Caleb Williams. And I'm

just gonna weaponize it back at you. I've never people say like Oh Oh, the Notre Dame game is like, I don't give a fuck about one game in college. I've never never once anything bad about Cliff Kingsbury. Don't look it up. But I'm whatever it takes. And I would be very, very happy and very excited for a breath of fresh air with Washington football, if that happened. Okay, other things were in Vegas. It's Super Bowl. Someone told me that I say soup bowl on Twitter. Do I say soup bowl? I think I say Super Bowl correctly. Soup or bowl?

I say soup. I don't know if I'm gonna find the three. It was a very, a very odd thing. I don't think I've ever, now I'm like very. By the way. He said, can you please stop saying soup bowl? It's two syllables, super bowl. You like your soup, we get

it. Maybe it's talking to you. But Jesus Christ, you talk on the air for living learn to say simple English words for fuck's sake. No, we won't. I'm pretty sure I say Super Bowl. Super Bowl. It's a pretty easy thing to say Super Bowl. Super Bowl. Oh yeah, that's right. So big game. So the legal rumors are true. You do get sued every time you say Super Bowl. Yep. Without the NFL without Roger Godel coming over and signing it in blood. Then you are not allowed to say Super Bowl. So good thing that Barstle Sports is worth $1 now, Roger. So you won't be able to get shit out of us. Super Bowl. We're here in Vegas for the big game. I'm starting to think about switching to the 49ers. Join me. I'm getting the thoughts in my

head. So I put in the biggest bet of my life on the 49ers. And I feel, I feel like we can stop Patrick Mahomes. Yes, I say this every time we can be the ones to do it. And I we have Chris Berman coming on on Wednesday. And we talked it out a little bit about just How stupid you feel when you lose money going against Patrick Holmes the last time I bet on Patrick Holmes in a playoff game I believe Was the soup bowl

Against the box. Mm-hmm. So Soup I might be screwed no matter what which door I choose. Listen. Listen. We can do it together. This is it This is like, okay. Josh couldn't do it. Lamora can't do it. We can do this. We can be the ones to stop them. Hank, you're thinking of it too. Yeah, do it Hank.

Yeah, I already put the bed in and I can't cash out in Vegas, so I will be taking everything in and making a decision on Sunday morning. Okay, okay, yeah. This would be us against Patrick Mahomes and Taylor Swift. And we are really good at disappointing women and we have an opportunity to disappoint like a billion of them at the same time by the chiefs losing this game.

Okay, well, story developing, story developing, the speculation begins at the speculation begin. What side we're going to wait? I'm sure everyone was dying to know what side we're gonna bet on as a podcast. Well, there's a, I think it's like 75% of the money and the bets have come in on the chiefs. Yeah, that was like, that was just me just hammering the chiefs right after the Ravens loss. But yeah, it's, it, we'll see.

Story developing the other, other news we got Joe and be officially needs surgery. Yeah. He's got a knee flap. Yeah, knee flap meniscus. That's not a good injury. So they said unknown timetable for recovery. I did check pro football doc, Dr. David Chow's timeline a couple of days ago.

He said, if it's the surgery that we think he needs, it's unlikely he's going to return. Well, that's it's football. It's football. Yeah, football guy, not a basketball guy. Yeah. Josh Harris would be able to tell you Yeah, so he so he might not when could he earliest return? Well

It has to be before the conference finals, right? Well, it probably in the conference. You'd probably be after they played Yokech, right? Let me see max. How you feeling about this? I don't know. I'm all over the place. Okay. Wow. What else is going on? this I don't know I'm all over the place okay well what else is going on should we just know I'm sorry I want to want to update this here he said recovery could easily leak into playoffs so he could be back at some point I think I think he'll be back I think we'll be back we but you get now it's worried about getting there oh without him be did I mean maybe he's just not score 50 every Maybe he's the maybe he's the one who's keeping you from getting in the conference finals. Yeah, belt to Astor continues Yeah, and pap have um, all right, let's get to let's let's max is on edge for other reasons

So we flew to Vegas today. Mm-hmm max just coming from New York We all flew from Chicago. I had to sit next to, well, let's just say this, P.F. D., let's sit on the table this way. I had to sit next to what I thought was the most annoying person to ever sit next to on a plane. Who was that? Henry Lockwood. He was just hitting me and anxious.

He elbowed me when I fell asleep before. Dramatic shit. Before the flight even took off. Hurt, yeah. And he took off his shoes instantly. And gross was hitting me was like trying to tickle me was like moving my food around. Just an annoying pass. He had that annoying energy of like I'm about to do

you have like this right now because he's about to do his stand up. So I would say he's the most annoying person to ever sit next to you on the play. So I was trying to talk to you to get, you know, at some advice and you literally like don't fucking speak to me. Yeah. And just put your headphones on and turn it on. I was trying to take a nap. So the first time I ever sat next to Hank on an airplane,

we were taking off and this is probably 2016, 2017 and I'm sitting next to him and then he just starts puking all over himself. And yogurt's coming up, he's trying to catch it in his hands, it's splattering everywhere. I was like, Hank, what's going on, man? I get anxious on flights.

And usually I get really high, but I didn't get high enough before this flight. So I puked my go-gurt all over the scene. They too, actually. So yeah. And then I rode over to the hotel in the same car. I was like, the first thing Hank said was, you guys take your shoes off on a flight, right?

Yeah. And I was like, no, never. I never take my shoes off on a flight. Was this my living room? No, we have breaking moves. Breaking moves. Adam Schefter has got his brain all scrambled. He just tweeted, chiefs and commanders both

have now arrived in Las Vegas the week of Super Bowl. 58 officially is underway. Let's go, we did it. We made it. We made it. Damn. 49ers just not a participant. Yeah. So Hank is not a great flyer, but he was, he was just annoying pass, but I still love him. He just was touching me too much. I don't like you being touching me. The shoes off on a flight is a wild move. Yeah. And I get touched all day. I was like, my kids touch me not not constantly I like to sleep on flights It's way easier to sleep with my shoes off. I'm I took a shower before the flight. I put on fresh pair of clean socks

What's the way you but you have to understand Hank? I lit like a day-to-day I'm like constantly in a state of like I need a nap so bad And then someone comes and just like hits me in the balls or like like oh daddy wake up And then I got on a plane I was like oh I can nap and I had my other kid just fucking smashing me in the balls or like, like, Oh, daddy, wake up. And then I got on a plane. I was like, Oh, I can nap. And I had my other kid just fucking smashing me every time I took a nap. No one wants to see your socks. No one wants to smell your

feet on a plane, though. You can't smell my feet. They're so bad. I don't lie. Hank thinks that he's the only person on God's green earth with with good smelling feet. Yeah. Okay, but so he was the worst person ever sit next to you, right? Apparently not big cat. I'm glad I'm glad you brought this up. I got a text because I we were watching the Grammys go down here and my elite by the way,

fantastic. Great job, my only great outfits. I was taking a picture of the screen and Max was standing in front of the screens. I took the picture I tweeted it out. And I got a text message from very good friend of mine, friend of the program, Diana Racini from the athletic. She's a reporter. She's a reporter. She actually did report this. I compliment her reporting because it was so detailed.

Apparently she sat next to Max on the flight. She wasn't sure it was Max though, which I'm gonna ding Diana for that for not immediately recognizing Max. Tough to miss guy. But she said, does max live in New York? Because I sat next to a guy in a plane who is really Come over here max I gotta read this from the start

Okay, all right, it's okay, it's okay Well, she's a reporter I'm reading report. We read Adam Chepter's report Had our audio guy. He's gonna he's gonna make sure you're set you screaming in the mic. You're good Okay, PFT brought this up right before it was he texted me right before we started and I won't tell me what it is I know but now we're just doing it live like this is well. No, this is so this is so bad You edit the podcast. That's true. I Had a burrito. I had a burrito It's good. I'm very anxious for the past like couple weeks and seeing Max as anxious is actually making feel a lot

Notice, okay, let's let's get to it. Let's get to it here. Stop Stop touching me. This max. I different vegan does max live in this like, huh? This this is like a nightmare. All right nightmare. Okay. Well well, this is. So you sat next to Diana on the on the. Yes, playing not realizing that you're a gross human being. And now she's reporting exclusive report from Diana Racini of the of the athletic. I sat next to a guy in a plane who is really big. Is Max big? Yes, confirmed. Yes.

Ha ha. Yeah, he was in New York this weekend. That was me. She said, he's disgusting. He ate his food on the plane like a monster, was basically breathing heavy and smelling terrible. Don't tell him I said it, but I was so grossed out. Ask him if he sat Isle Row. If so, he farted during his nap. I was texting with NFL people the entire flight. He had a chance to see super private convos.

He missed out. He was sitting right next to me ripping farts during the nap. And there is one, two, three, four, five, seven peas on ripping. He is one of the most disgusting human beings I've ever sat next to. Ask him if he scarfed some burrito sandwich before we took off. Is that you Max? you ate a burrito right before you took off I was really late getting to the airport. This is like this The fact that we were that we're putting this on the show is bullshit. No, it's not. Yes, it is You sat next to a reporter. She's reporting. She goes on. He's definitely single But then oh, but then cute face by the way

Oh, you face max and also no, he's not single He was come might be after this he was completely in his own world. He smelled of hungover He's also very he's also very unhealthy to sodas He listens to his music way too loudly, I'm very concerned about Max's overall health. He was blasting techno. These are all facts, he hasn't disputed anything. He was farting. Well, obviously I didn't know about the farting in my sleeve.

Which you apologize. To be fair, we were sitting next to the, I mean the farting I guess. Okay. I can't really defend. But like we were sitting directly next to the bathroom, which is like the war the bathroom smells. Yeah, it could have been the bathroom She said I don't want to be mean spirited Thanks. We're starting off here Diana But I changed poopy diapers six to eight times a day and his fart smelled like my kids diaper genie

Oh, no I recently read about a guy who got kicked off a plane for farting so much and I texted my husband and said I want this guy kicked off swear to God. That's an exclusive report. I did not, I guess I was sleeping like how are you supposed to know that when you're sleeping? Yeah. Yeah. We'll just maybe don't need to burrito before you get on a flight. So this is what happened. I woke up at 110 flight. I woke up at 1115 Panic absolute panic And it's a five and a half hour flight from no show from New York. No shower Oh, no, who's coming out of your booze coming out. It was a late night last night and then I

So then it would have I would have gone like 14 hours without eating like I needed to get something. I go, there's lines out the ass for all the food places. There was Mexican place that was the only place, the only one that didn't have a line. That I could go get food. He's like, please don't eat this before you get on a plane. Correct.

Then I could go get food and still make the flight. It could have been any advice. It was my only choice. And you just ended up with a next reporter. Then you spent the whole flight trying to chase whatever you did last night, listen to techno fart in your dreams away. Like, oh my god, I hope that I'm not sitting next to a journalist. Yeah, like how am I supposed to know if I was like, how am I supposed to know that I was farting in my sleep? I was sleeping. Yeah, that's a good point. It's honestly a valid point.

You kept saying, oh, you have to know what you did. How am I supposed to know that? That's true. How am I supposed to know that? She did not say anything about a boner. She's my enemy. We're going to have her on command. Or you're also my enemy.

And you'll get to refute this report facing me. No, I'm not refuting anything. He is not. So you're saying she deserves an get to refute this report face. No, I know I'm not I'm not anything he has not so you're saying she deserves like an award. Yeah, no, no, no You were reading it. I was watching his face to sodas techno facts everything else is facts So the farting is I was when you're hungover. Yes. I had a late night last night. I wanted like a diet coke is Feels good two of them. I had well. I also night. I wanted like a diet coke is feels good to him I had that while I also had the Mexican so the Mexican so I I

Fall asleep on every flight. I always you know, no you can't you didn't this one you catch it on flights And one of my biggest fears is like I'll wake up after falling asleep for like a five-hour flight and be like this person next to me It's probably texting people and be like, this person next to me is probably texting people and be like, this person is an absolute creature. That's what I had to deal with today with you. So that's my biggest. What happened to you is actually my biggest fear of life. This is the worst thing that could possibly happen to you.

Like no one is. What about the flight crashing? This is worse. Yeah. You know what this is? This is karma for Max hoping that we crash our plane. That's true. This is karma.

Hey Max, I hope you had a really good flight. Yeah. I hope you had a really good flight where you didn't fart at all. Damn. But I wish that I could, because I have zero recollection of a single fart. Like, to my knowledge, I had zero farts. But if I was sleeping, I could have been. Like, I think the fact that the burrito doesn't help the case

Yeah, right like no and what are the right to sodas? Little carbonate in the gut to sodas like and you woke up first thing probably didn't have five and a half hour play Let's tell like two sodas not that big you could have used the fireman On a football Sunday one football Sunday. how many sodas goes through that gambling well she just said I'm worried about him he's not healthy yeah so yeah what you guys did I've never had two sodas over five hours never five hours one because I don't want to fart you know what Max this might be good though this might just be like a kick in the ass like fuck up You go back to your seat. We'll talk to you for the Grammys Done nothing for the Grammys

Max has been stressed out about this report Because she just kept seeing it to those sweat pits those farts just fucking escaped She just kept sending me more and more information about the flight and he was just sweating it also Like we were next to the bathroom like where we were where we were sitting. Yeah, it couldn't have been closer Why didn't you just go take a shit? I didn't have to shit No, I was in the aisle she was in the middle also Middle seat. She can't get a better seat. Yeah Yeah, I hear that, you can feel them.

Like, she can probably feel them. Oh, shit, yeah. But the bathroom did smell. Like, the bathroom, there could have been other smells that were contributing to this. Everyone knows if you sit next to the bathroom on an airport, you're fucked. Like, we were directly next to it.

True. Like, it was like, there was no aisle to the left of us It was just math max is doing the Fauci right now It's like what if this crazy new type of disease that emanate from Wuhan wasn't actually from the lab But it was from it was from me. No, I don't I don't The farting I don't It does make sense. Let me start all right. So max the farting does make sure but I do think Let me smell your sweatpants. All right, so Max.

The farting does make sense. Let me smell your sweatpants. But I do think, like sitting next to the bathroom definitely contributed to the bad smell. Did you think about getting up to go use the bathroom to fart in the bathroom? Because I've done that before. Not even once.

I didn't even know that I had to fart. He didn't have to fart, he farted in his sleep. Yeah, to Max's knowledge. To my knowledge, I didn't fart at all. To my knowledge, I didn't have to fart, I didn't have to shit. I didn't get up to piss or anything Proven it also could

And she's looking for something to pin it on and she's got mad a burrito before getting on a five-hour flight He farted look at him. That's a fart. I said walking fart I kind of want to take Max's side of this and think maybe she had a very unhealthy breakfast. No, she was. She was farting. I am not like the party saw the best scapegoat of all time like this guy said I'm going to read on it on Max. And if someone goes like to Max's point,

if someone goes takes a huge shit in the bathroom and opens, she's like, oh, this fat guy next to me is. Yes, especially if you got a fat guy next to you farting. He's very easy. Right. Easy person to pin something like that on. Alright Max, well you're dismissed for now. She did, it did feel a little mean at times.

I mean, yeah. Italians, you guys don't look after each other anymore. Thanks to my husband. Yeah. The fact that... I'm not gonna say what I'm talking about. Look at his pants when he gets up. She also said they're fart pants. This is the fact that Look at his pants when he gets up. She also said they're far pants He was having she was having very important text conversations regarding the Eagles and max very easily far I've seen all the information. You can see a fart coming out of there right now

Okay Anything else in the sports world that we got to do we got a hit before we get to who's I always love big episodes that We have with with big interviews and then we just go completely off the rails and first time listeners have to listen to Max's fart escapade. Yeah, like listen. He doesn't fart that often guys. I love Max. Yeah I'm very glad that max flew one. I had one good day on this show I had one day on on Friday of people I had one day on Friday of people. Oh yeah, because the baseball video, you were in front of them.

People were finally giving me compliments and now it's just tomorrow's just gonna be a fucking. You shouldn't have told us that we hope we have a really safe fight. That's really the moral of the story here. That's just honestly terrible luck. I feel people shouldn't be like, you can't script getting sat next to a little reporter that's a friend of

the program I know it's tough but also maybe you should have recognized her and not farted a little more formal maybe gonna say hi hello hey I just see no I'm gonna you literally just said he's like that's my nightmare like yeah but I was sat next to her bed what's up Diana by the way I would have been like I just had to eat this burrito I'm really sorry whatever happens gonna be farting there's you. I just had to eat this burrito. I'm really sorry. Whatever happens. I'm gonna be farting. There's sometimes where I sit next to people and I'm like, whatever happens,

I apologize if I talk in my sleep because sometimes I talk in my sleep. So you can get ahead of it. Yeah. And at least then if she was texting P.F.D. then she's just kind of a scumbag. But you should have, with one hand on the burrito, the other hand you shake her hand,

you're like, listen, this is gonna be a fart factory in a minute. Sorry about that. Back up, please. Another one. I would have simply paid for her upgrade to first class, so she didn't have to sit next to me. Yeah, it's tough or complain. Big I can't be first sit next to the bathroom.

It already smells. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Put that in your. Yeah. It's definitely that's just a fact. Like that's that bathroom. The bathroom did smell. No, Hank's right. That's like literally gas like Brito. It'd be like, oh, it smells so bad after that guy walked out's the bathroom did smell no Hank's right that's like literally gas like a real like oh it smells so bad after that guy walked out Yeah, doesn't it the body the burrito is the game changer, but it was a burrito if she didn't see you have a burrito

You would be able to get out of all this, but you're in jail. You're in fart. Yeah Yeah, yeah, it was pant but it was panic. It was like I gotta make this flight. I gotta get something It was you know, I mean Hank Hank, you know getting to the airport and you got like 10 minutes until, I didn't even have like five minutes until boarding and I needed the, Hank, what are you, you gotta eat. I'm telling you, I've done this probably hundreds of times. I, again, it's just not sitting next to a reporter

that's a friend of the political. What the fuck, how, what are the, I've said many times, there's people out there that have like texted about me and like the person next to me on this flight. Yeah. Cause I talk in my sleep and I fall asleep on every flight.

And so I wake up and I'm like, fuck. What was I saying in my sleep? I don't know. This was actually, you're not gonna tell me. And we're just gonna go on our separate ways. This is probably the worst person for you to be sat next to today. Literally.

In the entire world. Like out of seven billion people. It's fate. Yeah. All right, let's do who's back of the week and then we'll talk to Maxim Memes at the end for the Grammys. Who's back the week?

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Ah, that was mine as well. Fellow standup comedian, he will be. Both at the top of your game. He is going, he got announced to the SNL cast I believe it was five years ago. He got fired from SNL five days later and now he has you know risen to the top become more and more famous more and more popular. Now he's been asked to come back and host SNL this Saturday. It's the best. It's awesome and it reminds me of when Norm McDonald got fired from SNL this Saturday. It's the best. It's awesome. And it reminds me of when Norm MacDonald got fired from SNL

back in the day. And then a year later, they hired him to come back and host the show. He had the best opening joke in his monologue ever. He said, well, 12 months ago, I was so funny that I wasn't even allowed in the building. And now they want me to host the show. So either I got way funnier in the past year,

or now the show just sucks, which is like the perfect way to roast him. I hope Gilles does something like that. I'm sure that he will. Well, he is, he is, so Shane is a friend of the program. We're gonna have him on, we've almost had him on like seven times, but our scheduling's been screwed up. We actually might try to get him on this week, if not,

he's coming to Chicago in a couple weeks. He has though a little bit of an issue at hand because we oftentimes make bets that we then, you know, like, well, I guess I've never had to cut off my pinky, but someday I might have to. Shane did say a few years ago that if he ever hosts SNL, he's just going to bud Dwyer on his monologue. Yes. You don't know who Bud Dwyer is.

Yeah. It's a politician who shot himself in the in the head, in the head, in the mouth, committed suicide live on TV. So he said that he was gonna do live from New York, this gun in my mouth. And then so now people are like, are you gonna do it? It would rule. I don't want him to die.

No, I don't want him to die. But it would also rule. Maybe some great special effects. Yeah. Put that in place. Either way, it's like the ultimate win. Like, SNL has completely cratered and bottomed out the the like

The crazy cancel like mob went after him in this one little piece of time and Flash forward five years and he is the most famous the best comedian going right now And they're like, you know, it could save our show Shane Gillis I want to know why he agreed to do it because I'm sure he has a reason, I'm sure he has something planned for it. But if I were him, I would be like, fuck you guys. But he can now say fuck you guys on their show.

Which would be great. Yeah, which is gonna be great. So I'm pumped for him. 21 Savage, I don't know if you guys saw this last week. He was on Aiden Ross's stream and got, basically I caught cheating. Like he was cutting cards, they were doing a card game him and like one of the guys in his crew basically, you know, marked cards so that they could cheat.

It was on a live stream with 100,000 people watching. So everyone in the chat was just like, he's cheating. Like he's clearly cheating. The chat caught in real time. They went through in real time or like, dude, these, these cars are cut. It was like super awkward, super viral, but now he's gonna be on it too. So it's like, it's right for jokes.

It's gonna be probably, I mean, it's gonna be one of the biggest SNLs. This is gonna be the most watched. I'm gonna watch, yeah, I've been watching SNL in years. It's gonna be a funny stand-up show, unfunny stand-up show Tuesday, finally here, Corselight, gonna be drinking a lot of Corselight on Tuesday. And you can buy a pay-per-view to watch it

499 you don't have to but you should because you shouldn't because honestly Hank was so so good on Wednesday That he's gonna crush this and you guys are gonna want to see it so make sure to buy and if you I've seen a lot of people being like This is bullshit. You're charging 499 for this and I agree. I agree fuck that like it's bullshit You were so good. Well, here's what I'll say if you shouldn't pay like charge us charging you, you know They should get you to host SNL. You were so funny if we if we hit a certain amount of pay-per-views I've decided that I'm gonna give Hank a certain amount of money to play blackjack with in Vegas Maybe we'll make a video out of it. So I'm not by but that's or you could buy it and Hank could play some blackjack high stakes blackjack Or you can just not buy or you can just buy it

high stakes blackjack Or you can just not buy or you can just buy it Do you buy it Tuesday? I think seven Vegas ten Eastern. I think we're gonna smash a watermelon Yeah, cuz Hank called PFT and I today FaceTime Audio notice which by the way in the history of the podcast I don't think we've ever I was in the middle of packing like panicking trying to get out And Hank called us and was like I'm thinking I was packing the middle of packing, panicking trying to get out. And Hank called us and was like, I was packing, and I'm thinking this guitar thing we were gonna do. Like, I don't really know the song that well, so maybe we'll do something else.

He, PFCI texted right after, Hank just was packing and was like, I don't wanna carry a guitar. And so he tried to call us and say, I have this great idea where it doesn't involve a guitar. You were in the middle of packing. I'm so gay. No, I'm still playing guitar. But the whole thing was like you texted us to be like, I don't really want to pack this guitar. So I'm gonna call the guys and be like, Hey, what if I just didn't bring the guitar? Yeah, well, no, I got off the phone as fast

as I was like, whatever, dude, I don't care. You clearly don't want to bring this guitar. You guys are involved. I wanted to get your approval. I didn't want you to come and be like wait a second What about what we were supposed to originally plan? So I was just confirming because I'm you know diligent you just you were just trying to find an excuse excuse to be like I don't want to bring this why the real issue is that I was gonna have to Uber to PFTs and then get the guitar case. Yeah, and go there. No, it's very clear. You don't want to do guitar I'm playing that's I'm I I'm buying guitar in Vegas. There will be guitar. Okay, I get smashed

Okay, all right PFT year who's back my who's back of the week is drug use who performance enhancing drug use There's a new Olympics coming out. I don't know if you guys have seen the news about this But it's an all steroids Olympics love it that's gonna happen It's called the enhanced games, right and And it's being developed by Christian Angermeier. These are all like private equity guys that are doing this. And Peter Thiel, the guy from PayPal, and they said, just as the Olympic games were revived and renovated in 1896 for the Victorian world, the enhanced games is once again renovating the Olympic model for the 21st century in the era of Accelerating technological and scientific change the world needs a sporting event that embraces the future

particularly advances in medical science and Therefore they're starting the Olympic games where every contestants going to be allowed to dope Which means we're going to get all kinds of crazy records We have a bunch of freaks running around out there The Russians will probably dominate. It's gonna be awesome. Tristan Thompson will be allowed to play basketball This is gonna be awesome They have to have a home run derby got it all gotta do home run home run derby be important And the guy that they used to make the announcement is a hundred meter sprinter and he has a time

That's faster than Usain Bolt, but he's like but they wouldn't count. He acted like he got canceled using PEDs, which is very funny. But yeah, we're going to see some crazy fucking time. I love it. It's going to be fantastic. That sounds way better than the regular Olympics. I'm going to watch hard. Yeah, I got billion. Yeah, billion. OK, my who's back in the week is college basketball in general. We had a great weekend of college basketball, a ton of awesome games.

Everybody lost. Duke sucks. But in specific, Robbie Avila from Indiana State, Indiana State's really good. So I noticed this guy probably three or four weeks ago. He's a big dude. Maybe not the most cut up guy in the world, but he's he's good. He's very good at basketball. And he's got Rex Spe specs and he is if Indiana State Gets the tournament which they are the best team in the Missouri Valley right now We could have like this guy could like capture the hearts of America. Yeah. Yeah, he's next he's next up for sure

Yeah, I I'm hoping I actually I got I mean I love college basketball all year round But I went to UIC versus Southern, Illinois with my son on Saturday, so I was just hoops all that. I saw one person, I forget who it was, so I'm sorry if I'm not giving you credit on Twitter, they said that guy's nickname is now Larry Blurred, because he's got like the foggy goggles. Yeah, I think Matt Jones also said that people were calling him Cream Abdul-Jabbar. Oh, I love that. That one's good too. Cream Abdul-Jabbar, yeah. Yeah, so Robbie Avila is gonna be, he's gonna capture the hearts of America. We need Indiana State to get to the tournament.

Yes. Do you know that Indiana State, Indiana doesn't play Indiana State because they just embarrassed him every time they play him. I did not know that. Indiana State, I think last time they played him was like 2017 and they won by like 20. Damn.

So Indiana's just scared of him. The old school Indiana State jerseys are so fire too. The light blue ones. Yes. Those are some of the best uniform sports. The sycamores. Yeah, so and Indiana basketball is scared of him. The old school Indiana State jerseys are so fire too. The light blue ones. Yes. Those are some of the best uniform sports. The sycamores. Yeah, so Indiana basketball is a bad spot right now. I mean, I will admit that a lot of the Indiana basketball

discourse that I get is through Dan Dockich's Twitter and he's just having a constant meltdown about it and it's fun to watch. Yeah, I would say Dan Dockich is one of my big sources. The other big source that I have is Big T. So I get a heavy dose of Tennessee propaganda all the time. Dalton Connect is fucking awesome. And Ziegler, I've liked Ziegler for the last two years because he's a short king like myself. Yeah, I like I like the volunteers,

volunteers and Cougars. Those are my two teams. I mean, Yukon keeps winning. They just went down stores south, dominated at MSG. It was a great weekend at college basketball. Philonova got another big win. And Purdue beat Wisconsin, I'll admit that. Purdue is very good. Zac Eady's just too tall. I go back and forth because college basketball to me is a lot of like hating guys year over year.

It obviously has changed in the past like 15 years. So I hate Zac Eady, but I also respect the fact that he's been around long enough that I've gotten my hate up to such a great level. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's like it's nice. It is nice. Yeah, for sure. I just keep like banging my fist, being like this fucking guy is too tall. Yeah, like having 39 year olds such as ourselves developing these intense rivalries with 18, 19, well, Zach Eadie is like 28. He's pretty old. Yeah, he's so big. And when he moves, it does.

I always say it does look like there's somebody inside of him Controlling his limbs with levers. Yeah, like a big brain inside of his chest being like, okay Move your right hand now move your left hand now also Baylor Whoever made their new arena, which is looks sick. I don't know how they fucked up the camera angle. It's the It's basically the nosebleeds. I've never seen that. I just don't understand how they could do that. They made a new arena, and they just forgot that they have to televise. Make it easy on TV.

Vandy's like that, too. Vandy's a weird arena. Washington as well. OK, should we do it? Should we get to James? Is it time? I'm going to say it's one of the best interviews we ever had, because James is that electric of a person.

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We appreciate it. You flew to Chicago to come on this show. So first of all, thank you because we've wanted to have you on for a very long time and this is a thrill for us to have you in studio. No, I'm grateful to be in your presence. I mean, I've heard the first very first time I heard about Parma tape was Ryan Griffin who was a quarterback with me in Tampa. And he always told me like, Hey, like, Hey, Dan loves you.

Like P of T, like they're all pulling for you. So I'm just grateful to be here in this beautiful studio, man. And I just got so much respect for what you're all doing and the audience that you're inspiring and influencing. So it's an honor. I love it. I love it. And also just for people who are listening, if we don't know what the Super Bowl is yet,

because we're taping this in mid to late January. We're going to run it Super Bowl week. So if we make a statement about one of the teams, and it's like, what are you guys talking about? That's the context behind it. But yes, thank you for being here. I don't even know where I mean, there's so much stuff I want to talk about. There's a lot. It just just like, how are you feeling right now? How's the health? Oh, yeah. I know that you had you had the vertebrae issues. You had some tendons going on. So how are you doing? Yeah, I'm healing. I think

that's like one of the biggest thing that me and Nadia talk about this offseason because it's been three years in a row where I've been injured. I've been not where I want to be heading to the offseason. So a lot of other people like PTs and athletic trainers, they had most of my schedule because I'm doing rehab, I'm doing, I have to be at this location for an extended period of time just to really do the due diligence in the process of healing. So I'm very excited and grateful

that I get to attack this offseason healthier and be able to grow. Yeah, you were playing with back fracture at one point. That's incredible. Was there even a doubt that you were like, I'm still playing like I got to get out there with my guys? Well, I believe it's always that warrior mentality. Once you get in between the lines,

I think a lot of players deal with so much that it's just, it's second nature just to go out there and battle and go out there and give you all because we all know that these opportunities don't last. So I would rather risk everything for my brothers and be out there and take advantage of the opportunity that I have than to be just not doing it

just because of a little pain. Yeah. And I think that's just a credit to really all the athletic trainers and the doctors that help get you back on the field. Yeah. But it's also a credit to the mental toughness that these guys have day in and day out. Well, that's, I mean, our theory is you're one of the best teammates from everyone we've talked to. Obviously, the end of the season, you've, you know, made some headlines with the last game in Jamal Williams. Did it feel good though, seeing all your teammates

coming to your back because it was like tweet after tweet and people commenting being like, we ride for Jamus. Like this was a team decision. We love our guy. It had to feel pretty good like seeing that. Yeah, it was, I was grateful that my boys, they wrote with me but they see me every single day. They know the intent of my heart.

And I went and approached some of the higher ups in the organization just to get their perspective and talk to them about it. And they really handled it really well, having conversations with them because again, they know my intent. They see me working with the practice squad receivers on off days to ensure that they're gonna be prepared if their number is called. They see me working with the practice squad receivers on off days, you know, to ensure that they're gonna be prepared

if their numbers call. They see me working with the young DBs, you know, making sure that they know how the quarterbacks on the other team or the offensive coordinator's trying to attack them in certain situations. So I think they know the intent of my heart. So when you are in a building with guys and you are battling with them

and you go through a full season with guys when you have an opportunity like that I feel like that was one of the most unique opportunities that really the NFL has ever seen. Yeah when you get a ball at the one. The ball at the one yard line with the significance of your team and a brother that you are looking for and that's just what I am I'm all in on increasing the people that's around me So when we have that opportunity, it's never out of disrespect, it's never out of strife, it's out of like,

man, this is love. It's a trust and commitment that I have with my brothers. And I'm so grateful that we were able to just continue to show how connected we were as a team through any type of adversity because we wanted to focus on the win. That was a great win to finish the season

because we were playing for a lot. That was a playoff game in our eyes because we didn't know what our future hailed after that. Yeah, and credit to you, by the way, for that reporter who, you handled that well. When you're like, no disrespect, you guys got a little no disrespect off because he kept on being like,

I thought it was disrespectful. It's like, well, I didn't. Well, you always, you gotta, you gotta respect, you know, people's perspective. Like that's just how it was raised. Like I'm gonna respect any perspective that you coming off from, but I know, like I know what my intent was.

And I think like sometimes we are so conditioned, really conditioned by facts, circumstances, and situations that we're like, it's out of tradition, but that to happen is out of tradition for you to run a play out of victory. And I do believe like that was the biggest, that was probably the largest thing about us running a play out of victory.

And I think the, it's behind us, but I believe like, if I would do anything, I would tell the guys like, hey, I probably wouldn't do it out of victory. Yeah, line up regular. Yeah, line up regular. But the thing about the play is, we are now having a conversation in the huddle

and the defense knew. Right. Like my right guard, like they asked us, are you taking the knee? My right guard sees it, he's like, we're not taking the knee. Like they knew, like, so they were prepared. It wasn't just like, okay, they're not even getting in their stances.

But at the end of the day, I'm a forward thinker and we had to put that behind us and keep going. But I'm grateful that I got a chance to address that, man. Because not a lot of people understand, again, the longevity of a season, the work that it goes into, especially when you got a guy that led the league in touchdowns, 17 touchdowns last year with one team. In his first year, he's making a, you know, a, a, a change in his life.

This is his first time, you know, being able to get in the end zone. So that feeling of, again, trust and commitment as brothers was amazing. Yeah, it was great to watch and yeah As big cats said your teammates all had your back afterwards. They were like it was a team decision We did it for the right reasons I think when when people ask you about it, they try to make you feel bad about the decision But I know that you did it because like the things you asked Jamal Williams to do this year That he's not used to doing and he did it as a good teammate I think yeah, you said it best there was a video that went viral the other day, you said King

the Man, right? So that's what you're doing, you're trying to help out your teammate. So you're looking forward and you got a big offseason front. I know that you love New Orleans. You've become like a New Orleans guy. Are you planning on staying in New Orleans? Are you planning on spreading your wings, going somewhere else, seeing what the market has to offer you. The biggest thing about my love for New Orleans is this is, I feel like the first city that truly embraced me. You know, just who I am, what I stand for, how I move. And I think it's just like the South,

like that Southern hospitality. You know, I'm from Alabama, so grew up watching Jew Breeze, you know, grew up that Southern hospitality. You know, I'm from Alabama, so grew up watching Drew Brees, you know, grew up watching Aaron Brooks, you know, the early years of the Saints and just saw how they grew. So when I was able to get thrown into this environment, I was just like, man, I had so much gratitude to be here

because I am five hours from home. You know, my wife's, her dad's side of the family is from New Orleans. So I instantly felt a connection with the city and the way that they represent their guys, the way that they bring culture. It's a different country. New Orleans, you go to New Orleans,

it's a different country. It's the coolest thing in the world. It's unlike any other place in America. It really is. We was talking about Bourbon Street early, you're like, man, like, where am I at? Yeah. You know.

But in terms of this offseason, I feel like I've played every role that a quarterback can play with the New Orleans Saints. You know, I've been a starter. You know, I've been a backup. You know, I've been someone to help, someone to help bring up some of the young bucks. I'm very intentional with everything that I do. So wherever I'm at, obviously my main goal is to be a strong quarterback in this league.

And when that opportunity presents itself, that will be what takes me away from any place because that's my dream, that's my goal. My dream and my passion is to win a Super Bowl, lead a team to the Super Bowl in any way, any shape or form. So I'm definitely able to do those things from a behind the scenes perspective. But I think just the hunger of a competitor wants to be out there in between those lines, wants to be out there having the opportunity

and doing his best to lead his team to the promised land. Like, the Bible talks about Moses and Aaron. And you know how Aaron was a great brother for Moses, but Moses is who gets the stories in the Bible. He's the starting quarterback. He is the prophet that they listened to. Aaron was a great help. He lived according to his purpose,

but I wanna have that level of significance. And everyone has their own story, everyone has their own calling to purpose, but it's different when you're that guy. Yeah, Moses was him. If you have two Mosuses, you don't have one the purpose, but it's different when you're that guy. Yeah, you know Moses was him Yeah, if you have two Moses's you don't have one. Yeah Moses was that dude, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's one of one All right, so a story that maybe gets misconstrued, so I want to hear it from you

Before you got LASIK were you playing quarterback blind? Because that was when it was when it came out that you got LASIK and you're like now I can read license plates and now I can do all this. Like hold on, was Jamis actually like the greatest quarterback ever? Cause he couldn't see and he was still putting up crazy numbers. Yeah. Well, uh, I had a stigmatism, right? But my, my vision wasn't, uh, I wasn't blind.

You know, I was like, I was like, I think I was like 60, 20, and my right eye, and I was like 40, 20, and my left eye. So I wasn't blind. Right. And that's why in college, everybody used to give me for the squinting. Yeah, you squint. But I was squinting all the way in high school. And this was my sophomore year where I had to go

and get a prescription for reading glasses. You know, my vision went back, but I was having these migraines and pinkies was going on. And, you know, we went to the doctor and they was like, well, you know, it's because you're straining, which your eyes are like, what do you mean? I'm straining my eyes, you know, because I could see very far away,

but when things got up close, like it was tough. So reading and like studying, like I would get migraines and it would be very bad. So I think that's where when I got to the Bucks, I was like, I was coming on my fifth year option. And I was like, man, if I can do anything to enhance my ability or grow just a little bit, if having perfect vision is the thing

that's limiting me from that, I'm gonna go get basic. And then I did the research about how I last for like 25 years and you just gotta go and keep getting, I was like 25 years, my interfere career, should I probably be a GM by then? So this is worth it. Could you notice the difference right away? Instantly.

Like man, when I was up under the name, it was kinda weird because I didn't feel it, but I could smell my eyeball burning. Oh, jeez. You know what I'm saying? Like, they did it with a laser and like, I could smell, like, no one has ever smelt burnt eyeballs, you know what I'm saying?

So like, you can only imagine like that type of, you know, smell that is. So when I smelt it, when I got up, you know, the doctor, you know, anytime you wake up and the doctor is smiling, like if he has his mask on, but you, I can see a smile. Like he's like, I've done this, this amazing work.

You know, and that was, I can see clearly now the rain is going, you know what I'm saying? Like I was just like, like, this is amazing. Like, A cured, a cured James Winston's eyes. The funny part. Yeah. The funny part is like, I had to wear, you know, P of had to wear PFT shades for the first six weeks.

I woke up really first three days. I had these bi-focals on. The old people glasses. Yeah. The blind people glasses. It's always good to see a doctor celebrating after a surgery. You're like, okay, that's my son. That's confidence.

Yeah, that went well. That's world class. I know the job was done. Yeah, yeah. The first time you stepped on a field after the surgery, were you like, this is a lot easier? Well, the depth perception was the biggest thing. I didn't even realize, because my old thing,

like I can see, obviously I can see big figures like coming at me and like reading covers and just seeing how, and that's more mental with pre-snap reads and just seeing the rotation and things of that nature. But I just feel like the depth of a linebacker like eight yards and 12 yards is completely different. You know, and when you're able to identify and confirm that someone is dropping at a shorter depth, then really sinking back, you're able to trust that throw in, you know, and confirm it and let it let it rip. Versus when you just drop it back

and you're just like, I feel the rotation, I feel the depth, but I trust in my arm more than I trust in and can confirm the depth of a linebacker dropping or the width that a safety is getting. Now it's just like, there's no second guess, there's no, like I said, no second guessing, there's just trust and confirm and let rip. But that was the biggest improvement. When you played for Coach Arians,

we've had him on the show a couple of times, great dude. I think he might be the one person in the world that loves the deep ball as much as you do. You guys both just love to air the ball out. What was that like learning from him? Because he's been called quarterback whisperer, but also his offense is weird where in your first year in a system with him,

a lot of times there's so many options that the receivers have that it takes a little bit to get on the same page. But what was it like working with Coach Arians? Yeah, it was an amazing experience working with him because he was actually the first person that gave me this vision of being a Super Bowl winning champion quarterback. He used to have these camps in Birmingham, Alabama that Nadia's husband Otis, my trainer right now, Otis Leverett used to put on at this place called Sportsblast.

And I went there two years in a row and I won an MVP, and he would show me his ring. He would let me know, like, hey, you're gonna be a great quarterback in an NFL one day. And I was like, hey, coach, I appreciate you. You know what I'm saying? Like you a freaking officer coordinator for at that time is to Pittsburgh Silders

that he wanted with. And I was like, man, I'm grateful, grateful for that. So when he got into Tampa, I was like, okay, this is it. Like this is who I've been, I've been molded to play for. You know what I'm saying? He's the one that gave me this vision. So I just think his perspective of really just making the defense stop you.

Like not surrendering to what you're getting, but like, hey, we're gonna attack you. Like, because that's what the defense does. What the defense are, reactors, but when they bliss, that's a form of attacking. You know what I'm saying? So his philosophy is like, we're gonna make the defense have to stop us.

We're not gonna focus on what they're doing and make our offense built off of what they're doing. But I really spent a lot of time with Clyde Christensen and Byron Lefwich. So I feel like BA was in that role where he's bringing the mentality, he's bringing the system. But man, Byron, he really did his thing

in terms of just calling plays, in terms of, like he was the coordinator running meetings. Like, so being able to not only get coached by someone that was who I had on a high pillar, you know, that inspired me, but seeing a quarterback who's played in his league, who was coached by BA, you know what I'm saying? Who I admire, like you like everyone, when you think about

Byron Liffords, you think about the courageous drive he had in Marshall with a broke leg. You know, so it was, you play for bigger, like you can never play bigger than yourself, but with emotions and mentality, you always have, like you're looking for a certain edge. Like why do I wanna fight for this guy? I'm gonna fight for Byron because Byron played this position.

Byron has been in my shoes, you know what I'm saying? Like he knows exactly how I feel. You know, why do you wanna fight for B? I wanna fight for BA because BA inspired me to do this job. He confirmed that I could, you know, have this opportunity. And I can't forget Clyde Christensen. And people don't realize about Clyde Christensen.

I feel like that was my best technique year. It was an amazing year. I led the league in passing yards, and I led the league in, well, I was second to the MVP in touchdowns. MVP was Martin Jackson that year. But Clyde Christensen, who trained Pay Manning for all those years at Indy. Tom Moore, who's the office coordinator with Pay Manning. So the level of gratitude

that I just had, who BA brought in, you know, you see when I left, they weren't a Superbowl because BA brought in that culture and he was preparing the books to ascend. You know, obviously he has a larger role in Tampa Bay, but just the people that he surrounds his player with I was just thinking about the doctors that he brought in, you know The recovery make mechanism that he brought in the strength coach Anthony Perroly that he brought in like he Him being come from Pittsburgh and seeing Indianapolis like he brought that Super Bowl winning culture back to Tampa Bay Yeah, I was grateful to it to worry him When you got a guy that believes in you, that has that type of pedigree,

then you want to live up to his expectations, right? It's like, since you said it, I don't want to disappoint you. So I'm gonna do everything I can because now you've made me believe in myself and I want you to be right about me, right? Yeah, absolutely. And I think that word is both ways, especially when, like, I've been doing a lot of stuff

just on mindfulness of learning to be more self aware and understanding how to convey my emotions. And I believe like initially when I first got into this league, I was a people pleaser, you know, just because like, man, my dad coached me and Lily, you know, just just just because like, man, not my dad coached me and Lily, you know, so just my early years of being a football player, you know, I want to please my dad. You know what I'm saying?

I want to make sure every coach that I've had in my whole life, I view from a lens of my father, you know, because I respect my authority, you know. Every time I say that, you know, I think about South Park. Respect the authority. You know, every time I say that, I think about South Park. Respect the authority. You know what I'm saying, partner. But anyways, like, so that's just how I was, I was wired.

You know, so when you are in an opportunity, where you know, you got a authority or figure that you trust, that instills that trust in you, and you're a person that's a people pleaser, you gonna do everything that they say to a T. So when you wanna mean, then someone says, risk it, no biscuit. You know what I'm saying?

You're like, okay, I'll get a risk it. Sometimes the biscuit, you know, kind of gets away from you. But it was, I think like you said, PFT, when you have people that believe in you, and I think that's what I'm looking for, you know, with a job opportunity. Someone that believes that I can lead their team

to a Super Bowl, and obviously that comes with actions. You know what I'm saying? That's why this offseason is so important. That's why I take pride in being a great teammate, because when you're able to act upon what you want to achieve That's how you truly obtain success. Yeah, so you mentioned baseball. I want to talk baseball real quick You were a great baseball player. You loved playing baseball. I assume because you played in college as well Do you think you could have played in major leagues like you were what were you throwing?

I do so at the end of Florida State I was topping out at 98, but I said like, I said 92, 95. And man, I miss baseball so much. And I truly believe that me not playing baseball did not allow me to achieve certain athletic movements on the football field that I was, when I was playing baseball every single day, really from a hidden perspective. I didn't realize how much thoracic,

lumbar rotation that I was not able to be as powerful in, because I was a switch hitter. So when you in the cages and you bad from the right side taking, you know up to 500 Cuts, you know on the right side and then 500 cuts on the left side, you know when you're doing that like think about your thoracic rotation Yeah, I'm saying like you moving a lot and you look at the I would say the most prolific quarterbacks in the league now and they have different arm slots Yeah, they have an uncannily ability to throw in different situations with their body being contoured from a different way, from a different plane.

So I feel like that I have to focus more on doing T-spine rotations and practicing yoga just a little bit more to get that rotation. But it's different when you have a different sport. That's allowing you to do those movements. Yeah, it's a hot topic now too with kids in specialization, and it feels like most people who make it to the pros are like, no, let the kids play all the sports. It will teach them something that they'll pick up

for whatever sport they wanna go forward with. Because just focusing on one sport, you're taking away all these different skills that they might learn in baseball or whatever. So do you think you would have played in the big leagues? I do believe that I would have made it to the show. Do you think you could maybe still, maybe second act? Deion? You like Deion?

Listen, I promise you, I believe in myself. Yeah. You know, anytime of the day, but out of respect for the people that still put in the work. Yeah. You know, to make it to the show. Baseball is one of the most, but out of respect for the people that still put in the work to make it to the show, baseball is one of the most felling sports there is. Yeah. Out there, obviously golf is very defeating at times.

If you don't practice, baseball is the scenarios that you're put in, I feel like especially when you talk about key of specializing on certain things, it teaches you different disciplines. When you think about a pitcher, as a pitcher, your job is to hit the mid. But literally, it's you and the ball. And that is it.

They say it's you and the catcher. But the batter has to say so. It's you and the ball. It's about your location. It's about, okay, let's take a calculated risk here. Okay, I know this guy, his high spot is high and inside, right? So instead of throwing a foreseeing,

that's just gonna be flat and let him hit his pitch, you throw a two-seeing. So it runs in a little bit more on his hand, so he thinks he sees it coming. Boom, you get his hands. Like it's very calculated things between that as a batter. Right, when I think about a batter, first thing I think about is a quarterback.

You know what I'm saying? Like I don't know what the pitch is though. I know what his stuff is, right? Quarterback, I know what a defense's lead coverage is. You know what I'm saying? I know versus a different front, I know what I'm probably gonna get. I've done, like studied the different tendencies

of the pressures that they like to bring at a certain time. But as a batter, you're like, okay, I'll watch Femm on this picture. I know he likes change ups, low and away with one strike. So I'm gonna prepare for that, but I have to react to the fast ball, right? So when I'm sitting out behind the center,

like, okay, like I know that, you know, the big Vangio defense is gonna show a too high shale for the majority. But once I get the snap, I have to again trust and confirm, like, oh, I have rotation. All right, well, the rotation is to the strength. Okay, it's covered three. So boom, my eyes start here.

You know, and as a batter, you think about a quarterback, you have the same amount, really probably less time as a batter because you have to react to the ball. But you don't have, you know, Jadavion Clowney and Miles Garrett and Mike Parsons rushing you. So when you think about those disciplines that baseball teaches you and how you can relate it to football, how you can relate it to boxing, you know, in terms like being in a pocket, being able to take, you know, purposeful strikes, you know, as a boxer. When you think about Floyd Mayweather, people know him about his defense.

But when you look at his strike, like his strike accuracy, like he's landing a very high percentage of his strikes, you know, when you think about, I think in today's game, quarterbacks are having such high completion percentages is because Offenses are created more for the quick game What throws behind a line of scrimmage that allow people to catch and run and we think about boxing those are those jabs Yeah, those are those jabs but the ability to hit, you know to ability to knock somebody out the book the ability to hit a ball See to throw a ball 60 yards down the field, that is, you know, that's the dagger. That's the stake in the heart. So I think these disciplines,

and I'm so happy that you brought up the spatialization, I think you learn so many different experiences and different sports that you won't be able to really learn in life until you experience it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we've seen some of that in your famous workout videos that you like to post online. We love, we're big fans.

I know that sometimes you post them and you're like, yeah, people are gonna laugh at this one, but it's funny. And I'm doing this with a purpose. My favorite one, I think is the one where you drop back and you have a baseball bat in your hand. And then you're in the pocket and you just swing a baseball bat from the pocket. You're like, that's just a dude that loves sports right there.

Or the blindfolded three point shot that you made with a football, that was a good one. The towels and the dog, the backyard. Yeah, what's your favorite one that you put out? So, like, my whole life, you know, I've always got this, you're like, I'm sure you, like, you tried to do that. Or like, oh, you doing this like on purpose.

I was like, I'm very intentional in everything that I do. So when I'm doing something, I'm all in. It's not jokes. It's not fun and games to me. This is my work. This is my craft. This is my passion. Like I said, Bruce Aaron's inspired me to be a Superwoman.

But I've been training for this moment, for these moments, like you don't spend 10 years in an NFL for fun and jokes and games. Spend 10 years because you love the game and you love the people, you love everyone that's involved with that game. So these drills that I do, I literally, I'm making these drills up

based off of what I'm experiencing on the field. I literally, I'm making these drills up based off of what I'm experiencing on the field. You know what I'm saying? Again, I didn't continue to play baseball. So how can I enhance my, you know, my torque? How can I make sure that my hip to shoulder dissociation is being detailed? Man, I'm gonna get in the pocket.

I'm gonna simulate with my helmet. I'm gonna take my drops and I'm gonna take a swing. Yeah. You know, like those are things that happens. You know, a big shout out to CJ Stroud in the prolific year that he's having. You know, when CJ Stroud is taking swings, baseball swings on the sideline, it is, it's magic when CJ Stroud is, you know, shooting basketball like before the game. It's magic because this game is predicated on winning.

You win, ain't nobody making fun of no jokes. Yeah, this is amazing. Look at the technique that he's using when he's swinging that bat. It's so true. Yeah, it's so true. So I definitely embrace the laughter. The laughter gives you life.

Sometimes I could be funny. But I also embrace the grind. I embrace the thought that me and my trainer put into these workouts. I embrace the lessons that we learn, you know. Because we pay attention to feedback. Like, how can you get better if you don't understand why you're doing something if you don't understand why you're doing something or you don't gain perspective.

You know, we're always pushing to be greater than what we were. You know, if you're not trying to get better, like you definitely get worse. Yeah, that's true. Right, so when I approach the off season, that's why I'm having meetings with Nadia. And that's why my assistant is traveling with me.

You know what I'm saying? Because I still gotta get my work in. Yeah. You know. You know I'm saying because I still got to get my work Yeah, just because I'm Obviously, I'm grateful to be here with y'all, but things are still being done like if do you do you believe I'm asking what? What do y'all believe? Made barstool such a household name is it is it because of the people that you had on the show or is it because of the undercover work that you all do every single day before you all even got to this platform to allow you to be who you are? It's a good point because we have a dream job, we have the best job

in the world, but I do think there's sometimes where we don't give ourselves enough credit where we work really hard and we work long hours and it's fun, that's the problem. It's like when we say work, it's like we get to go watch 12 hours of football and everyone would wanna do that. So, but yeah, I think we do put in that effort cause we always wanna be giving our best effort. Like we don't wanna show up and not be ready for doing a show.

So yeah, it's true. And there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes and went on behind the scenes before we were at this platform. Like the work that nobody really sees when you're grinding on the way up, on the way up, on the way up. There's, you spend more time like learning your craft, detailing your craft on the way up to prepare you for once you get to that level.

So yeah, there's a lot of stuff that people, I guess, haven't seen, but I guess a lot of that work was also just also watching football. Yeah, and it is funny because I always think about people who have made it in life. The one thing I always don't like is that they kind of forget about the lucky breaks along the way. And we've had a lot of lucky breaks. We've had things break our way,

different paths that we've taken, we went left, we went right. So I also just admit that we have luck. Anyone who's successful has gotten a lucky break at some point. And to pretend that that didn't exist, that always bothers me. Where they're like, well, I was always great. I was always going to be great. No, you had something happen in your life where a lucky break propelled you even further.

So yeah. Yeah, I challenge you on that tape. I believe in four leaf clovers because I've seen some okay So I know luck can be real, but I'm not really a big proponent of luck You don't think there's any luck that it's got like what I don't believe that anything's happened I don't think there's no stress thing as a coincidence. Yeah, I believe this intentional everything that we're doing is either Enhancing where we're at right now either we are being a Person of increase or we really just fell in yeah today Well, okay, so so for example like your relationship with Jimbo Fisher, which is incredible relationship

We had Jimbo on you guys won a national title together. I'm sure you were recruited a bunch of different places There's a chance that you go somewhere else or like you know, the decision is different. There's a little bit of luck involved that like Jimbo, you and Jimbo were the perfect marriage at that perfect time in both of your careers, you know? So it's like not, it's not saying that you're lucky, it's that there's little things that happen along the way that you're like, you look back and you're like,

oh, that was really good that it happened exactly that way. Yeah, no, and again, like I said, I don't disagree with your method. I just believe that Jimbo and I were, it was already planned. Yeah. You know, like, I think the biggest thing that people miss, and this is what social media gives us, it gives us instant access to everyone's lives.

But I think people miss the people factor. Really being around other people and building on those connections that you already have. Or those connections that you have yet to make. And I think when you are around people with similar energy, right? With a similar mindset, those energies, they work towards each other.

They go together. Jimbo had a lot to prove. Right? Jimbo was, you know, he was coming from LSU. He was filling in the steps of Bobby Baum, you know, the legend coach. And this is Florida State. Like, I get it.

Florida State isn't in the SEC, but historically this has been a dominant college. And for you to fill up the shoes of Bobby Baum, and for people to always connect you with Nick Saban, your entire career, you have a chip on your shoulder to say like, hey, I'm gonna accomplish something that, okay, I'm gonna have my Moses moment. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not gonna be Aaron. It's nothing wrong with being Aaron, but I'm gonna have my Moses moment. You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna be Aaron. It's nothing wrong with being Aaron, but I'm gonna be Moses. And when I got with Jimbo, like Jimbo expressed that to me because unlike a lot of people, like a lot of people just, and it's not judging,

but some people aren't wired the way that others. You hit the term like we ain't come from the same cloth. Right? I initially knew Jimbo and I were cut from the same cloth because Jimbo wanted a championship. Yeah. He was going to do whatever he could to get that. I'm a kid from Alabama.

I'm 35 minutes from Alabama. Listen, people went when I committed to Florida state, the things that happened to me and my family was unbelievable living in the state of Alabama. 35 minutes in Tuscaloosa. I mean, my mailbox, I can get beat down. You know what I'm saying? Thank Lord, you know, Home Depot had these mailboxes you could stick in the ground.

You know, I felt that, man, and this is something that's serious. I felt like one time, well not one time, I still don't have grass that grows in my front yard at my home town house. I still don't because I felt like somebody poisoned my grass, you know what I'm saying? Harvey Uptight, he's the guy that poisoned the oaks

at Tumor's Corner. And you know that I don't wanna blame Harvey or anybody, but I believe something happened. How does my grass just stop growing? Yeah, I think Harvey got you on. And I smell gasoline when I got home. Like me and my dad, we talk about this. My grandmother, she worked at UAB Medical

where she got a rest or so, and she was an Avid Alabama fan. And fans would send my grandmother, my grandmother, hate mail, my grandma, you going to that grandma? You know what I'm saying? Just because her grandson ain't going to Alabama, that is the stuff that you go through and what it does is like, I read this book called Callous on My Soul by Dick Gregory

and it just basically a biopic of his life and some of the things that he went through and you know some of the influential people that he was with but what he talks about basically the premise is that all these things that he went through they built the callus. Yeah. You know and a lot of people look at calluses is like you know I got a callus on my hand but what is that is building another layer. Yeah.

It's making that area stronger. You know what I'm saying? So all these I that I went through it may it made me stronger So same with Jimbo Jimbo, you know Ethan his son was you know going going through a lot with Fanconia Nemia, you know all the things that he does with the kids first foundation. Yeah, so you just think about the level of of Perseverance that you have to have every single day because you're looking in your son's eyes and seeing the pain that he's going through, right? And you have to claim 110 other kids as your son because you have to lead a university like Florida State

after Bobby Bowne, oh, under Nick Saban. So he was like, man, I want something for myself. So that connection, they had really the biggest thing he did was his best friend was Mike Martin Jr. You know, the son of Mike Martin, the legendary coach. Shout out to me in 11. But they had a meme with me. That's a big thing. Your football coach, man, you believe me a much.

You gonna let me play baseball? You gonna say that the baseball coach is your best friend? Yeah. And we sitting there eating together, breaking bread together. So I get to talk football and baseball. Like, what did I want to accomplish in college? I wanted to win a national championship, right?

And if I could do that in football and baseball, yes, I'm going for it to stay. Yeah, yeah. They're the only ones that said that you could play baseball, right? Well, LSU, they said that I could play baseball. ones that said that you could play baseball, right? Well, it LSU they said that I could play baseball Alabama actually said I play baseball Alabama I really felt like the recruitment that I had at Alabama probably helped their baseball program a little bit because they

Like after they didn't get me they start building these big baseball facilities and stuff like that And I'm just gonna hold it to heart. I'm gonna say it was because of me Yeah, so name the was because you. Yeah. So name the stadium after. Yeah. The only team that said that I couldn't play baseball was Florida. Oh.

The Florida Gators. I'm gonna give y'all a quick story. I went to Friday Night Lights. It was like a camp at Florida. It was me, a guy named Zeke Pike, who was was an amazing guy and I just love how his life is changed and how he's serving the Lord and just doing great things in the community shout out to Zeke, but we were there competing and I forgot I forgot who it was

Who was the officer coordinator? But anyways, I'm at Florida, right? And we only like this recruiting trip. And man, I went to MVP of the camp. I show out, you know what I'm saying? I walk up to, you know, that's probably why I don't know his name because he didn't, he told me that I couldn't play. But this is the officer coordinator of the Fortigators. This ain't even the head coach.

You know what I'm saying? I'm not even talking to the head coach. The officer coordinator told me, you know, you ain't gonna be able to play baseball here. And I said, oh, I said, okay, I said, well, I probably won't go here. You know what I'm saying? Like literally, like the 40 years, like when you think about a kid from Alabama, like I'm thinking like, okay, one of my guys was like, look, you know, we had Jamarcus Russell, we

had Pat White, we had Phillip Rivers, and these are Alabama quarterbacks that did not go to an Alabama school. So you have these people, and you just look at the course of what they've achieved in their life, and Pat White, he did great things at West Virginia. Yeah. Phillip Rivers, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback, you know, one day, and Jamarcus Russell, he was the number one pick, you know, so he did some great things at LSU, won a national championship there.

Well, no, he didn't win a national. He beat, I think he beat Notre Dame. Yeah, he did some great things at LSU. So I was like, man, I'm gonna take this chance. You know, and at this time, this was when Alabama was the traditional pro style offense, where their quarterback really wasn't making an impact on their team.

They were surrounded by great talent and a great defense. So the opportunity to go to Florida State, team up with Jimbo, who's an offensive mind, and be around those players and dominate, and go against the SEC, do you know how great it was? And it was crazy. It was great to be arbor in the national championship. Yeah, yeah.

And one, it's the SEC team I wish it would have been Alabama. That would have been, you know, that probably gave me a little bit more street credit. It would have burned more of your grass. In the state. Yeah, yeah. The whole house part would have been. Yeah, yeah.

But funny story about Arbor. And this is just the, really, this is the mindset that people in Alabama have when it comes to their football teams. I just won the Heisman and I'm walking in the grocery store. Me and my friend, one of my best friends, Tanner Brown, we're walking in like a Dillers or something. And this nice, nice old lady comes up and he's like,

hey, like, don't I know you from somewhere? You know, that happens a lot. And I was like, you know, maybe like, how are you? Like, do you need any help? Like, because this is a, you know, this is an old are you? Like, do you need any help? Like, because this is a old lady, you know? She's like, no, no, no, I'm good. She's like, Nick Marshall, right? And I said, yes ma'am.

I'm like, Nick Marshall. Like, and I'm like, it's nothing against Nick Marshall, but I play for Florida State. I don't have an orange, or listen, I make them all. I don't have an orange in blue. I promise all. I don't have an orange in blue. I promise you, I got them regular clothes, so I can get it. But I don't look nothing like Nick Marshall. You know what I'm saying?

And for her to attach, when you're Alabama, you attach greatness with if you go into Alabama or Auburn. Auburn, yeah. You know? So I missed out on that. So I'm sorry to all of my Alabama people that I didn't go to. What year was the camp? Because I just looked it up. It's either Steve Adasio or it might have been

Charlie Weiss who told you you can't play baseball. So I think Charlie Weiss was the head coach. Look, look. No, he was offensive coordinator for Will Mustchamp. Okay. No, this was, this was 20, this was 2010. Okay, so it was Steve Adazio, be a dude. Not Steve Adazio.

This guy ended up going to Auburn to be the officer coordinator at Auburn too. Big mistake by him. Massive. Big mistake by him. Yes, it was a huge, but it wasn't Steve Adazio. What was the quarterback coach's name? I'm going to look it up right now.

I remember that Auburn Nattie, that was on your birthday, wasn't it? Yeah, it was. You won the national championship on your birthday. Yes. If I were you, I wouldn't believe in luck either. That doesn't feel like luck. That feels like it was supposed to happen. It's supposed to happen.

You know, before the national championship game, when you are on that hot stage, a lot of people try to contact you and have conversation with real relationships with you. There were two people that I was able to build a relationship with during that time. One of those people was Bo Jackson. And I'm gonna tell you about Bo Jackson. And another of those people were literally just literally two day, well one day relationship with this person because he got back to me and really my wife and that was Eric Thomas.

Eric Thomas man literally called him while I was out in LA. He reached out to me man and prayed for me, gave me some words of wisdom and like, and that was basically all the motivation I needed to go out there and lead the troops. You know what I'm saying? Like you get a call from Eric Thomas and like just what he stands for,

the motivation that he's been inspiring me and my wife, well now wife, but my girlfriend at the time, our whole life. Like, so shout out to ET and the work that he's doing. But Bo Jackson. Yeah, Bo Jackson, Auburn guy. Auburn guy. By the way, the guy was Scott Loeffler.

Scott Loeffler. We'll leave him alone. It was Scott Loeffler. That's exactly who it was. It was Scott Loeffler. And he ended up going to Auburn then. Yeah, he Loffin. That's exactly who it was. It was Scott Loffin. And he ended up going to Arbond. Yeah, he did. So let's talk about Bo Jackson.

One, there are two people from Bestman, Alabama that are, that I would see made me and inspired me to be one. And one is D'Amico Rines. He actually was my first signed football. Oh. Yeah, my uncle had coached him in high school. Really coached him from Lil E all the way up. One is D'Amico Rines. He actually was my first signed football. Oh! Yeah, my uncle had coached him in high school, really coached him from Lil Lee all the way up. So, Sal D'Amico in Houston, what he's doing there.

And Bo Jackson, both of them from Besme. Bo Jackson is from Besme, Alabama. I've met D'Amico, I talked to him in carry roads too, I wanna leave him out. But the first time I talked to Bo Jackson was after I won the Heisman. And you're from Beshmer, Alabama. Now I know he lived in Chicago and all that.

But he was calling me and he was like, hey, you know, what's up, Jabbo? And I was like, hey, my name. I told him, what's up, Jameson? And he was like, that's not my name. But I'm grateful to be talking to you. Man, this man, he called me, I don't know what booster from Auburn

was in his pocket or in his ear, but he would call me at all times of the night, like wanting to talk, saying like, hey, this Uncle Bo, you know what I'm saying? Like just calling the check in on you. I'm like, Uncle Bo, like I ain't talked to you in my whole life and I'm from your back, I'm from your neighborhood. You know what I'm saying? You calling me talked to you in my whole life and I'm from your back, I'm from your neighborhood.

You know what I'm saying? You calling me right before the national championship game. And listen, when is the next time I talk to Bo Jackson? After the national championship? No. Like after the national championship, I didn't hear from him again. Next time I heard from him was at a Panini signing.

You know what I'm saying? Say, hey, what's up, Uncle Bo? How you beat him? How you doing? I totally do it at SCC football. Is that how you get in your head a little bit know what I'm saying? Like, say, hey, what's up, Uncle Bo? Now you beat him, yeah. Yeah, you do, how you doing? That's how they do it at SEC football. Is that where I get in your head a little bit? When I look back at it, I was like, well, you know, I kind of get credit to Uncle Bo because, like,

he was really, he was doing everything he could for Arbor. He knew I loved him. He gonna call me at all times of the night. Waking you up, yeah. Inspiring me to whoop his team even more. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's great.

That was so funny, man. So shout out to Bo Jackson. One, just the base, D'Amico was a great baseball player too in high school. So you got those two people from your same city. And I ain't talking about like a suburban area or like on the outskirts, like man, we are from the same city. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? We probably were born at the same hospital. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? And you got two people that proliferate. How can you not be inspired to be your best self when you got two people that already paid the foundation for you? Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe the best athlete of all time in Bo Jackson. Yeah. You talk about a baseball and a football player. Like the only person you can say is Prime? Yeah, Dion. You know what I'm saying? The only person you can put in that...

Yeah, to be that good at both. I got a... Or Charlie Ward because he hooped. Yeah, that's true. That's true. That's the crazy thing about Charlie Ward where people don't give him enough respect. He won the Heisman Trophy and didn't get drafted. Yeah, he played in the NBA.

Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. He didn't get drafted today. Oh, but hold on. But still he played in the NBA. It's crazy, it's crazy. He'd get drafted today. Oh, but hold on. But still got drafted in the first round. Yeah. In the NBA. Okay, come on now.

Yeah. Think about that. That's incredible. That really is. Think about what Pat White would have been in today's game. Oh yeah, yeah, I know, I know. You have all these quarterbacks that were ahead of their time.

It's true. You know what I'm saying? But didn't get the opportunity because of Other things. Yeah, you know that we don't know why what was the guy's name you played Florida State? Uh role was it my run my role? So he he was an elite athlete and then what's he now like a heart surgeon? Yeah, yeah, he's a surgeon and I believe he's actually a He's a government official in Is it Panama what?

Not it's not Panama, but someone He was there He was there, but he was a government official from his native of his native country the Bahamas. Yeah They I thought he did some work in the Bahamas. I think so too. He's a neurosurgeon. He's a great player too. Yeah, I believe him.

He's really, really good. Yeah, we play this game with everybody that comes on the show. I've got four cities, just random cities, and you tell me which one you like the best, which one you could maybe see yourself living in. Seattle, Atlanta, Washington, DC, and Foxboro, Massachusetts. Just four random cities. Random, totally random.

Which one of those cities? I mean, they sound random. Yeah, they're very random. Oh, in Denver, in Denver. In Denver, yeah. I was waiting for that one. Yeah, random. You know, anyone that accepts me.

Yeah. But I would just say this Atlanta I grew up I want to have from Atlanta like I'm from Birmingham, Alabama, you know, I think that would be there would be a beautiful time for just my family The accessibility that it had for my you know other family my surrounding family that would be beautiful, but I Feel like I'm like I'm the attraction. I'm the thing, I'm the city that is gonna bring

joy, love, trust, peace, integrity to any location that I'm at, because I'm a man of increase. Yes, I like that. I am the city, that's powerful. It really is, it really is. So wherever it may be, that city is gonna be getting someone that is ready, a kingdom man that is prepared to grow everyone around them. I wanna sign you right now.

Yeah, I am inspired right now. All right, I have an awkward question, but I have to ask it because our fans would be very upset if I didn't. Yes. Jamis one of one. The Twitter handle. Yes. Are you familiar?

I am. He's a very big fan. He is. He loves you. Yeah. Very big fan. That's it. He just loves you.

Is it good to have a rider like that? Because he loves you. Like, and that's what I mean. Like, it's some stuff that He just loves you. Is it good to have a rider like that? Because he loves you. And that's what I mean. It's some stuff that's just not luck. Yeah. When you have someone like when I never met the guy, you know, never been on the phone with the guy, her husband wrote a book with him.

Yeah. And like for the book with him. And like, and I never had any interaction with him. So, when God sent're an angel like that, that man this man be back in me. And my dad, he the one that be retweetin'. I'm not as active on social media, but I'm gonna look at my dad.

You retweetin' it's like, cause he don't know nothing about no Twitter. My dad would call Twitter, Tritter. You know what I'm saying? Like, hopefully, luckily it's X now, so you can't mix that up, you know? Like, it was amazing to see, because when this book came out, my training, like, we trained it, like, we prepared.

I didn't know he's forwarding a book, and then the book come out, and now I got people asking me, like, hey, is this James' burner account? Yes. Like, first of all, I don't have the time to represent myself like that on a social media base. Like if I'm gonna represent myself,

I'm gonna do that in between the lines. Yes. But I just view it as an angel in disguise. I'm grateful for James 101 and wherever you at, I appreciate like he send me emails, emails of encouragement. Sometimes he'll shoot to me. Like, like, he send me emails, emails of encouragement. Sometimes he'll shoot to me, like, you, he would send me random cities, you know, that I need to be contemplating on,

you know what I'm saying? And here I have everybody on the line, here I have Nadia on the CCs, I'm just like, huh? Okay, like, thank you, you know. Yeah, he rides, and for people who are unfamiliar, you can buy the book on Amazon. I own the book. It's James Winston derangement syndrome How media bias causes us to overlook the start of a Hall of Fame NFL career. It's great. It's great book Thank you. It's I mean he rides true. I need a James one of one I need a guy just riding we all do yeah, we all need those people that just got out of back, you know unconditionally

Yeah, yeah, and he goes he gets goes, he gets in the corners of the internet and he just fights. He has stats that I've never seen before. Yeah. I'm grateful for him. Yeah. I need to take him to a negotiating meeting. Yeah, serious.

I mean, he'll pull up your best stat. He actually probably should put together some pamphlets for you when you're hitting the free agent. They're ready. Oh yeah, no, he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to put them together. Yeah, I remember. He's sleeping on them. So the last season that you did play

and you played to like your fullest extent, or before the injury, you had what, 14 touchdowns, three interceptions in New Orleans? Like you can play, you can still start. And I hope that another team sees that and brings a city to their city because the NFL is more fun when James Winston

is a starting quarterback. That's fact for sure. Do you have a game or a single drive or throw that you look back on and you're like I played that to me is my calling card like this is what I can bring to you. It's a number of games that I just come to mind. The game in LA called SEM against the Rams. My rookie year against Philly, well, tied the rookie record for touchdowns. And Philly was my favorite team growing up, ironically.

Andy Reed, I just loved him. Big down to my nap. Yeah. I'm kinda in my models. But I don't really feel like I played my best game yet. You know, like I'm such a in the moment type of person. Like I'm starving for that chance to do it again. You know, and I think when you look back on my career

and when you look back on certain games, like just like, you know, the final play is behind me. Like, what's next? You know, what can I create next? Like, who can I bring Jor to next? You know, it's like, how, how can I go? Like, if I'm sitting here, like, first of all, I'm grateful for all my experiences. I'm grateful for those games that I did that have the LA game was really fun.

Uh, just because that was my second time, uh, being third time being back LA after we lost to Oregon So I really wanted that game, you know I'm saying against the Rams in 2019 but This is this is what I do like this is not who I am But this is what I do like it's my passion to go out there and bombs on the back that, you know, throw five touchdowns, you know what I'm saying? And lead that Super Bowl winning drive with 13 seconds

or a minute and 13 seconds on the clock. Like, that is, that's what I've been trained to do. And trust me, it ain't gonna be by coincidence when I'm in that opportunity again. When I'm awarded with the opportunity again. I hope you're getting that opportunity. We'll play this clip and we'll go mega viral. Absolutely.

I'm going to get a few spots. Yeah, like he saw it all. Yeah. So one thing that's pretty clear about you, you believe in yourself, and you have that internal confidence, and you know what you can accomplish. What was it like kind of taking a step back and consciously saying, I am willing to be a backup quarterback. Because you don't talk like a backup quarterback. You have that faith in yourself, you're ready to be the guy.

Was it like an adjustment period that you had to deal with in New Orleans where you had to dial it back? Where you just like, if I'm gonna be a backup quarterback, I'm gonna be the best backup quarterback that the league's ever seen. Yeah, well, that faith in myself comes from my Brazilian faith and my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. That's where it comes in. And I know I trust in Him.

You know, Proverbs 3.5 says, Trust in the Lord with your whole heart and lean not into your own understanding. Right? So I trust in Him wholeheartedly. And no matter what, again, no matter what condition, circumstances or facts, there are surrounding who I am or what I do, right? That does not define me. You know, I don't let anyone else or anything define

what my next move is of who I'm gonna be or what I'm going to accomplish. So, but I would have to say my first opportunity to be a backup quarterback was a very great gig. And I give a lot of credit to Sean Payton for this, because I think that was the year where it was kind of back to college where I had to make a decision for my career, for where I would go.

And that decision came clear when I talked on the phone with Sean Payton and got a chance to work with Drew Brees. Like again, this is a guy that I looked up to, got a chance to meet a couple times out in San Diego, just through a church, a rock church, Pastor Miles McPherson had. George Whitfield actually one of my old quarterback coaches, he had set up a meeting with Pastor Miles Malfist

in San Diego and Drew Brees was the guest speaker one day and I got a chance to meet him out there. So that was amazing. But anyways, being able to work with Sean, who is a fearless, passionate competitor, Drew was the hall of fame face, the hall of fame quarterback and the resilient Surgical player, but Sean that was Sean Payton's culture at New Orleans Saints

That was that was that team was a reflection of who he is the tenacity like he was Sean Payton was He was the man of the city like he's the one that embraced the culture of New Orleans and he gave that to me. I remember a story with Sean and I'm gonna get back, I'm gonna get to the backup. You know, I don't like talking about being a backup cause I don't like that place.

You know what I'm saying? Even though I cherish every place that I'm in. But Sean, man, we, we, we in the airport and it was doing, it Sean, man, we, we, uh, about to be in the airport, uh, and it was doing, uh, it's doing COVID. Right. Uh, hurricane just came. So we're leaving, um, through, uh, not privately, not, you know, like, not charter, but like a regular. Airport, like we checking in through, uh, MSY in New Orleans.

And it's a fan, you know, right there. And, you know, he's asking for autograph. You know, I got my headphones on. I can't hear it. And Sean tells the fan, you know, right there. And, you know, he's asking for autograph. You know, I got my headphones on. I can't hear. And Sean tells the fan, get out of here. He's not finna sign your autograph. Like, and he kind of shoots the guys off, but he looks at me. He's like, we're not here to kiss any babies.

I don't want you here to be a politician. I want you here to be a quarterback. And that stuck with me because that's how Drew approached the game. Drew wasn't in it to be liked by everyone. Drew had a chip on his shoulder because one team didn't believe him. I think he literally did have a chip on his shoulder. Yeah, he did. Yeah, the MRI should be.

Literally, he had a real chip on his shoulder. But one team didn't believe him. So he was going to make next opportunity, the spot. And that's what he did. So being able to be in that building, I just had one year with him, but being able to serve Drew Brees, like that's what people don't look like.

I served Drew Brees for a year. You know what I'm saying? I saw him getting banged up and having to overcome things and sending him plays and sending him suggestions. Like this Drew Brees, like Drew looking at me like this. Like, come on, James. Like, I don't really don't need your help. I'm talking to means and like every time

when he'll just peek down, down there, I'm just like, okay, let me be quiet. But this is like, that's the love that I even Drew Brees is in the room and I got love for this game and I'm willing to say something in front of Drew Brees. So I think, again, I've played every role that a quarterback could play to an organization. However, I embrace every opportunity that I get,

but my desire and my passion is being a Super Bowl winning quarterback. And you win Super Bowls by being starting quarterback. That's when they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they they Super Bowl winning quarterback, you know. Yeah, Doug Williams. Doug Williams came in off the bench. But I didn't put Doug Williams because he was the first African American quarterback. That was, that was a, that was, he broke barriers. His resilience in office, bless, because DJ Williams was a quarterback coach at the Saints.

Yeah, and Doug worked in Tampa Bay. Doug worked in Tampa Bay, yes. But that's barriers, right? So when you achieve something like that, I got the vision. I've already seen it happen. Because obviously, he was a starter. And then obviously, the next season,

he was a starter the year before. And the next season, some things had happened. But when his opportunity presented himself, he's just not a super old winning quarterback. He's a Super Bowl MVP. And he dominated that quarterback. Yeah, yes. Dominic.

It was unbelievable. So shout out to Doug Williams and thank you for paving away for all young African-American quarterbacks. Yes. Dreaming to do what you did. Yes. Yeah, when you were coming up, did you ever, like playing ball when you were a kid,

were you, did any coach try to be like, I don't know if you're gonna play quarterback, like can you try running the ball, like being a wide receiver? Did you fall into that at all? Or at the time, was it like, you were so talented that they were like, yeah, James is gonna be the quarterback no matter what. Well, when I got to, when I got to Huey Town, my high school,

I started as a freshman right, but I was competing against a upperclassman that was that quarterback in we had a We had a good relationship. His name was Wayne Carroll And he ended up going to receive him in like almost was all-stated receiver So I I've never been in a situation where a quarterback told me, like, hey, you're gonna play a different position. I have played some cornerback and some linebacker. It was amazing. Like I'm a football player.

Yeah, I'm just like, I want to be a Super Bowl winner, but I'm a football player at heart. So that's always fun. But no, Wayne Carroll, his sevelessness to go and be my best receiver that year, it just gave me, I feel like it gave me a mind shift because like, it's like the tables have turned. Like I was the first African American quarterback

at my high school, you know? So that was kind of a unique feeling. That was a lot of pressure as a ninth grader being in this rural city in Alabama. But I think that situation gave me perspective because I was like, okay, the table's upturned, but this guy, he didn't complain. We got into a lot, just because he was an Alpha too,

and I was an Alpha, but he did his job, you know. And what did my dad teach me when I, like from Lilly, like, hey, no matter what, where the coach push you, this is a big baseball stadium, no matter what the coach push you, you go out there and you do your best. You know what I'm saying? So like I continue to carry those values up until now.

So Wayne Carroll was a white guy. That's a beautiful moment for America. rural Alabama, white quarterback. He was a red-haired white guy. Red-headed, really white guy. And they said, you know what? You look more like an athlete. I'd like you to go play wide receiver.

We're going to put James Winston. That's beautiful. That's a great moment. Look, running a wingtea. Yeah, RIP racism. Yeah, there it is. No, you know, but Wayne's the man. Yeah, can we talk about eating a dub?

Yes, let's talk about it. Oh, you got one up there. That looks good. That looks like good dub. You want to eat it? I got to put it in the oven a little bit more. But you did that. When we talked to Cam Jordan about it,

we talked to some other teammates of yours, and they're like, it's James. It's James. From the outside world being like oh that's weird like we all love James it inspired us how long have you been eating dubs I've been in W's you know it's just the beginning it started a long long time ago and that's because my last name is W in the four the first four letters of my last name spells out wins yeah in fact trick me is probably right on the way.

I'm gonna look at the videos. I'll be damned. But I've been, it all stemmed from one of my favorite motivational speeches. And it all surrounds about a bowl of, do y'all remember the soup, the alphabet soup? Yes. You know what I'm saying? Of course. I always just talk about like, hey, the alphabet soup? Yes. You know what I'm saying?

Of course. I always just talk about like, hey, we scraping the bowl today. We scraping, we eating up everything, right? And we only looking for dubs in the alphabet soup. There's a lot of different options out there, but we looking for W's. We eating all the W's in the alphabet soup.

But this one game, ironically, the true thing happened in New Orleans. Like, it was at New Orleans, and we lost the game. That's why, you know, I'm still selling E to W t-shirts, you know what I'm saying? We've been way bigger. We're the one to game, you know? That's why winning is so important.

Winning defines everything, and you two are winning in what y'all do. And I am too. I'm winning in life. Those are the, I will be getting more wins on the football field, but anyways, eat the W. I'm talking, you know, and I'm aspiring to guys like, hey, like what we eating today?

Like I already had the alphabet soup conversation early in the year. You know what I'm saying? And we ate the W. I was like, what we eating? I was like, we eating W's. I was like, what this is? You know what I'm saying?

It's a W. We eating that W. You know what I'm saying? Like so. I took the W out the soup. I already had the W ready and prepared. I think it went left when I started actually eating the W. Yes, I agree. And when I ate the real W and then proceeded

to dap up Deshaun Jackson. Yeah. I think that was the worst person to dapp up. Because Deshaun from Cali, he already had a fame. First, he don't got no time for no E to Ws. He just, he look at, like, give me some touchdowns. Give me the ball, James. Like, I ain't worry about no E to W.

And when I tried to dapp him up, in the eye contact we made, doing that, I think it was a powerful speech. It really was. When I was band up, you know, I had a grade three AC Sprayne, you know, I'm going in, I'm fighting, I think it was a powerful speech. It really was. I was band up, I had a grade three AC Spray. You know, I'm going in, I'm fighting, I'm fighting that. Like, and we've been losing, I'm just,

how are we gonna wheel this team to get a win in the Superdome? My first NFL win was against Jubreys and being the Saints in the Superdome. So I'm just like, I got good vibes here. You know what I'm saying? We didn't win that game. But I felt it was powerful.

Yeah, like when you think about like, what is Eden W? You know, it's just winning. Yeah, it's doing something to push you towards what you want to accomplish. Like and that's what sometimes it can get misconstrued about me that I'm a jokester, I'm goofy. Like, no, I'm just all in.

Like, I'm all in for the people that I work with every single day. I'm all in for my brothers, my sisters. Like, man, I'm gonna have a conversation with the janitor. You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna have a conversation with the lunch ladies. Like, this is not just, that's my family. You know know I'm saying I'm have I'm have a conversation with the lunch ladies like this is not just you know That's my family. Yeah, you know, I'm sorry

We put in too much work not to enjoy what we do and not to express how we feel I think that's a lot of things a lot of people want to express things with their thumbs You know, so a lot of people want to express things from a facade like from from a story that that that you know Probably got a green screen. Yeah them. No one wants to express their feelings out loud. No, no, we're lacking genuine people. Like they really speak their truth and have no explanation for it. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't have to explain to you why why I said this. I don't have to explain to you why I did this, trust that it came from great intentions of my heart, and trust that

with all of a sudden, I got your back. Because again, what I want for myself, I want for you. So if I'm all in, I want you to be all in. I love that. That's a leader right there. Yeah, I'm ready to eat a dub right now. That is a leader. It is fair to point out that that was the sequel to the Alphabet alphabet soup W we kind of just jumped in and all we had was no contact

yeah just eat the W but it was like that it's like trying to jump into a second movie without seeing the first one you're right and understand what goes on behind the scenes I will we when we make our ad commercial for eat the W shirts it's gonna start off with just you know a bowl of soup and it's gonna be a W just floating in the middle. And then like, I'm gonna come out of the soup and eat the W and then slide back in the soup. And then it's gonna come up, it's gonna say eat a W on the top. I mean, every other time I eat off of a soup from now on, I'm just gonna eat the W's. W's only

Why would you eat anything else? Imagine touching an L? You're vegan now so our W's vegan so I've been oh there are a couple vegan W. Okay. All right good Good. So I always I got this from in dummy can sue We're just challenging my body and trying different diets in the course of our off season. So this one time, literally the year after, was it the COVID year, not a year, was it, what year was it, was it 2020? Where I went full of vegan for six months

and that was very challenging, being a Southern boy from Alabama. It was challenging but it was very beneficial. I went from 250 to 207 in a matter of eight weeks. Wow. And it just was me eating great food, losing a lot of just bad weight. But it was painful because I love to eat meat

and I love to eat good. But I think anything that you can do to, again, increase your status, your health, your brain function to be the best that you can be, you have to do it. So I'm thankful that and Dom Consue, he put me on blood work. You know what I'm saying?

I didn't know anything about blood work. I just thought you get a regular checkup. Now I'm on blood work. You know what I'm saying? I didn't know anything about blood work. You know, I just thought like you get a regular checkup. You know, like now I'm getting blood work and they got, you know, 18 or 50 tubes of blood. I'm like, I don't think I have enough blood to suck. You know, but it's just, you always are thankful for new and improsper ideas or recommendations to better yourself. Yeah, that's smart.

I should go vegan. Maybe you're not that much way. Impossible to be a vegan in New Orleans, I would think. It's the food down there. It's just so good. It's so challenging, but you don't understand like, like when you have the plant-based diet, you don't understand how much animal fat or animal substances are in just regular vegetarian meals.

Like it's in everything. So I went the easier route and I just did fruit and salads and just a variety of like walnuts, Brazil nuts, pine nuts, like things in that nature to just help me, you know, not even have to worry about all the the ends and now. So like, is this vegan? Like, I didn't want to be. I think that's probably why I lost so much weight, right?

Because I was I eating enough. Like, I have no idea. I just know that my my energy felt the same every single day. I know that I was moving better than ever. And I was skinny, you know, I lost my guts. So I was proud of that. Yeah. Yeah. But when it came to, you know, I lost my gut so I was proud of that. Yeah, yeah. But when it came to, you know, when it came to mood in that pocket and breaking tackles

and I was just like, yeah, let me go and eat me a nice steak or yeah. You gotta get your weight up a little bit. If you were to have like one last meal in New Orleans, what would it be? Well I have an amazing chef. Chef Tatiana and Chef Jewel Robinson. They are, Chef Jewel is the mother of a famous chef, Chef Kwame Onwachi, who owns Tatiana's in New York and it was rated the number one restaurant in the country last year and top 50 in the world.

Is that Nigerian food? So it's really, is it Pan American? It's kind of Caribbean and African, but he's like, what is his, I think he's, is he Nigerian? I remember I read an article about him and his dad is Nigerian. It's really like a mix of occasion.

It's really like a mix of everything that he's been through because Chef told me a story how she sent him to live, was it Africa or what was it? Yeah, she sent him to live in Africa. So he understood, I think the granddad was a chef. So his granddad was a chef, a popular chef, and that was his mom's dad. So it just ran in the family. So he basically took, let's think of Gumbo,

like he took African cuisine, he took New Orleans cuisine, he took LA cuisine, and just made it all into his own thing. I have his cookbook. I had to send it to y'all. Just to get the term of like the type of cuisine is there. But I know one thing is delicious. So no matter what type of cuisine is, it's amazing. So my favorite meal would be probably something from Tatiana's. Her name is actually Tatiana. and he named it after her.

And he has an amazing short rib there. Is it, what is the name of the short rib? Like it's like... It sounds very good. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Like in the vibe there. It's right there in the Lincoln Center and like it's just amazing. Yeah. So we got a couple of last questions. It's been unbelievable Yeah. Like in a vibe, it's right there in the Lincoln Center. And like, it's just amazing.

Yeah. So we got a couple of last questions. It's been unbelievable, Jamis. You're an all-time vibes guy. You really are. Like, it's just, the vibes are high when you're talking. So this one's from our good friend, Stephen Che, who's a Die Hard Bucks fan.

Right. Who, this is actually a pretty detailed question, but he said, he wanted to know, you played with a lot of great players But two guys that are constantly overlooked are levante david and demario davis Who do you think is more underrated between the two of them? Levante david's been doing it forever. Yeah, it's crazy I don't know

Who's more underrated? But I know the caliber of men they both are and I know both of them should be and will be Hall of Famers. I feel like the most underrated player I play with, honestly, that people don't give enough respect to is Mike Evans. Oh, yes. I think he's the person that flies up on the radar a lot.

I feel like Levante flew up on the radar, but I think, like, literally, he's like fine wine. Him and Demario, the older they get, the better that they have been playing. And I just, I'm grateful for the relationship that I have with Demario and how he helped increase me with my faith. Like he's just an unbelievable man, father and leader.

And just being around him in New Orleans was really a treat to my to my heart With Levante the competitor that he is and a man that he is is like They're similar individuals But the way that they approach the game and the way that they prepare is is unbelievable So I'm just I'm waiting for Levante because he was kind of like one of the old heads that helped me Endably helped me move around him and Jerry McCoy You know what those people those people that? Kind of took me on the wind Jeremy Corbyn Jackson and Levante kind of took me on their wing and showed me You know how to be a pro like what are the things that I need to be doing?

So I'm grateful for both of them But like I said the most underrated player that don't get enough respect is Mike Evans We've we did a whole thing on it a couple weeks ago where it's like Mike Evans, if you look at it, he is going to be, if he plays five, six more years, he will be, it will be Mike Evans and Randy Moss and Jerry Rice and T.O. and this vaunted group of receivers

that are just unassailable. It's like these are the top five guys and people don't give him enough credit. Like a thousand yards every single year for, he's been in the league for 10 years. And you look at statistical things, but when you look at the size to speed to bend how he's running these routes, like how he's creating separation,

like he's doing it in a detailed, skilled way. He's not doing it because of his unique athletic ability or his talent. He's doing it because he trains in this way. You know, I really think he not doing it because of his unique athletic ability or his talent. He's doing it because he trains in this way. I really think he's doing it because if you ever looked at his toes, you would see how powerful he was because his toes look like they just dig in the ground. I'm a feet guy because I wanted to be up a dodge. When I grew up, I haven't achieved that yet, but it's probably gonna come.

But anyway, Mike was just an amazing player. And I played with Deshaun, and I played with another excellent receiver, Mike Thomas. You know, those guys are both Mike Thomas and Deshaun, they're both Cali guys, you know? So they love the ball, right? Mike, he don't complain about nothing. Yeah, he don't complain about nothing. Yeah.

He don't give you no beef. You know what I'm saying? He's just a cool, laid-back person that's going to go to show up to work, do his job, and it's going to outdo everybody on the field. Yeah. Like, he's just so dominant that he doesn't get the respect that he deserves because, like you said, we talk about stats, but he's been doing this since he got in the league.

It's crazy. And you leave him off all pros, you leave him off pro-bos and stuff like that. I'm just like, man, the world, the NFL coach don't know what they're missing with Mike Evans because those are the men that the NFL, they put on that pelts with those great fathers, those great men, the NFL man of the year, that's another goal of mine.

People that's giving back to their community, doing it silently, not looking for a pat on the back, but doing it because that's just who they are. You know what I'm saying? They will put in anybody's coincidence that they like that either. They went through certain things in their life that inspired them and influenced them to be who they are.

And I just shout out to Mike, man. Yeah, yeah. It's interesting, you brought up the fact that like Cali receivers like the ball. Can you describe like, what's the difference between California receivers, receivers from Texas and maybe Florida wide receivers? Well, the Cali receivers receivers I feel like they that they just

I feel like that they just They are so influenced by the lifestyle in California like they are born to be Superstars, right? So when they are put in a, in a, in an environment where they are the Athos and they are the stars, I think they're going to, they're going to take full advantage of that responsibility. So I just think they're thirst for warning the ball, right? Whether it's, it's challenging times, feeling like they're always open, even if they're a triple covered, like, I think that's always just going be something that they yearn for. Texas, man, I feel like Texas is, they're so, I feel like the majority of Texas, they're so lifted up through high school in their young days because of, you know, Texas, everybody

talk about Friday nights and so they are experiencing an NFL lifestyle in middle school. You know what I'm saying? That's just how big the stardom and the, you think about Friday night lights and all that's how big it is in Texas. In middle school and high school they have a class for football during school hours. In middle school, high school they have hot tub, sonnets, steam rooms, indoor facilities. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy. We were in Dallas. We were in Dallas and I Forget the high school there. We were at but this is where Mark Cuban Jerry Jones Sam

Mastafo went here. Oh, yeah, I like howling part. Yeah. Yeah. They got an indoor facility. Yeah That looks better than our indoor facility This is this is a high school. Yeah, Texas. Yeah, so I think indoor facility. Yeah. This is a high school in Texas. Yeah. So I think taste receivers, they just, I feel like they're different, but Mike is different. Mike is from Galveston. I always tell this to people.

And this is something that me and my trainer talk about a lot. If you are born around water, like you have a different way of life. You function differently. And I just feel like you function differently because water has no soul. It doesn't discriminate against anybody. You get in that water,

it's gonna take you wherever it goes. So I feel like people that are around water, they are very strong will. They're a one with water. You know what I and Mike is from gavisthen if you've been to gavisthen gavisthen is known for you know I don't know what they're known for because I'm not from there, but I know they have a beach You know I'm saying and it's it's not a pretty beach. No for oil. There's it's some of the dirty sand in America Yeah, yes. Yeah, but it's not a pretty beach. So Mike is from that muck. Yeah, it might be or muck. Yeah, but it's still muck So so he's a little different. I don't classify him as like the regular Texas receivers

The but CD lamb is a text receiver. I know he had a Dominant year. Yeah Who else is Brandon cooks from Texas brand cooks might be yeah, but yeah And then Florida wide receivers Florida Florida. Florida. I feel like, you know, and let me be impeccable with my words. Florida, wherever she was probably the most one. When you're in Florida and you play obviously, I think they're the most savvious receivers. Because I believe you are like, it is so many. You oughta, like, it is so many rival receiver coaches in the state of Florida that'll work like you got a route guide,

you know what I'm saying? You got gold feet global, you know? And that's just two people that I know that I've worked with. Route guide, yeah. I like that. That's my dog. But they're working on their feet.

Like, when you looking for it, they got, ta ta ta, they got some of this, they got some of that. But, you know, I feel like all of them, you got, they got some of this, they got some of that, but I feel like all of them, they need to get a psychiatrist and just share with them some of the things that they went through, from, I'm talking about probably from when they were born. They need someone to talk to. And that's how I view the Florida receivers,

but I would say some about Florida, what people like, and I'm pretty sure Cali's like this in other places, but the lower you go on Florida, the more you get out of Florida. Tyler Hassett is South Alabama, South Georgia. If you from like the Panama City, like the panhandle across, like you're like an Alabama person, you know, like South Alabama, South Georgia.

You know, I feel like Jacksonville, South Carolina. Like, oh, that's the same. You know what I'm saying? You, you're a little wild, but you know what I'm saying? You Southern hospitality. You go down like Kenny Shaw, like isn't Orlando, Kermit Whipp, like they're whole, they're whole different people, you know what I'm saying?

Then Kevin Benjamin, who's an hour south of Kenesha, he's from Bel Glade. You know, he's completely different. And Quine Bowden, right? A little hour south of Bel Glade. Like he's completely, like these people are, they're just different. And I'm grateful, I'm grateful,

that's why I'm so happy I went to Florida State. Because I was able to build relationships with people that were just they thought differently. They had different perspectives and communicating with them for us to win was a challenge. It really was because I'm a person where I'm for everybody. You know what I'm saying? And sometimes these players, they were for Orlando, they were for Bel Glade, they were for a lot of them. They were for Miami, you know what I'm saying?

More than they were for everybody. Just because they're so, I feel like Miami, Miami, oh, not Miami, but Florida players are so like, they specifically Miami, they run in Clicks. Like if you see one person for Miami, you're gonna see 10 people from Miami, right? And those 10 people might be living in the same house. So when you go and knock on somebody door saying like,

hey, like we finna go throw these routes, you know, in the field, you gotta say, what's up to the cousin? You had to dop up Auntie, you know what I'm saying? You probably gonna have to, you know, kick some Roman noodles because some kids gonna be running around, you know, before they come out and say they're ready to go through. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like so I think they run in Cliffs

because they function off a lot of community. And I think Florida has a lot of, I would credit the old heads in Florida. How am I to find old heads? I'll find old heads are people that have experienced how things, I think they do a good job of giving back to their kids in Florida. Like you see the Ocho Cincos out there working with the young guys.

Like you see all the older people that have been there and done it, building up these young athletes that are soon to be what they are one day. So I give that credit to Florida, but I feel like Florida is definitely the most confrontational receiver out of them all. But I believe that and I don't, this is my opinion. I believe that Florida receivers have an entire different work ethic and grind than receivers from other places. Yeah. All right. So I've one last question, James. It's the rowback question,

RHOBACK.com, use promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase, Q-Zips, Polos, Hodeys, Joggers, Shorts, Fleeces, Vests, everythingrowback.com. I have to apologize for something. So during COVID, when there was no sports, I started playing video games on NCAA 2014, I believe it was the old one.

And I'd started streaming it, people were watching and I got the OC job at Florida State and it was the last year that you were in the game. And I did have a game I threw six interceptions with you. Yes. So I apologize. We did win the Fiesta Bowl though. Yes. Okay. So you won throwing six interceptions?

No, I don't think I won that game. I think I lost that game, but I wanted to apologize. Do you accept my apology? I threw six interceptions with you. No, I don't accept your apology. But I'm grateful that you shared that with me. OK, all right. All right. That was a really nice way to say, why the fuck did you throw six interceptions?

Yeah, yeah. I'm very tough on myself. Yeah. So I think you have to be able to laugh at yourself. But you also got things that you know you have to like eliminate from your energy. You know what I'm saying? That game, yeah.

It was the ACC championship game against Georgia Tech. And that's what I'm saying. Okay. So once you told me that, once you said six, that's a number, I believe in numbers. And then you said, and I was like, okay, that's eliminated from my mind. So I don't forgive him.

But I'm grateful that he shared that with me because now I'm gonna be able to process that and move forward. Yeah, great. But I feel good about moving on from this. I'm gonna eliminate it from my mind as well. What about, can we get another NCAA game? I know. Like, I'm so frustrated that playing matting is so challenging.

I know. Right now, I was like, I tell my brother all the time, because he's a young, upcoming athlete, and he's gonna be a beast. John Winston, be sure. Like when I make sure Barstool retweets my last highlight video that I put on John Winston. Yes, yes.

Yeah, so I told my brother, I wish I would have played Madden more growing up and worn Super Bowls on Madden and visualized that because I spent so much time winning Heismans and winning championships on NCAA. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, I didn't play enough Madden. You know what I'm saying?

Like, so now I'm going back and I'm having to take my rating down from all Madden to all pro. know what I'm saying? Like, so now I'm going back and I'm having to take my rating down from all Madden to all pro. And then I'm losing to all pro. Like, I'm not going to rookie. You know what I'm saying? I gotta go to, you know, whatever the next one is. Like, you know, I'm like, I'm getting these wins,

but this doesn't feel real. You know what I'm saying? And then I play my brother and he 21 scumping me. I'm asking, you know, you asked those, couldn't like, I mean, you picking a team, like you play play on all manner, you play on all pro. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm all bad. I'm like, okay.

How can I sneak this all pro? Do you have yourself as a starting quarterback when you play Madden? Every single time. Yeah, hell yeah. So you have yourself starting to play as the Saints. Yes. James Wins is starting and you're trying to win a Super Bowl.

I think you need to just grind at it it the game has become a lot harder recently Yeah, they made it right the ground I started pft. Okay. Yeah, I like this is this is very intentional Yeah, me earning a Super Bowl like you got to see it. Yeah, like no, I believe you. Yeah, but you have but You guys even though even though though you probably can't pinpoint the time, but you saw yourself being in this role. You visioned it somewhere and I'm a big, like I know the Lord has a vision for me and I have to visualize what I want for myself.

Like that is gonna glorify his kingdom by visualizing what I want for myself to honor him. You know what I'm saying? So I think in everything that you do, you gotta find a way to experience that. And sometimes it might take six interceptions in college against Georgia Tech. You know what I'm saying? And then you gotta eliminate that and go back to the next game and win the fiesta bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I apologize again. I, I, it is, it was Georgia Tech. The Georgia Tech

official account made fun of me for it. And I might have thrown you under the bus. I said it was James through six picks, not me, even though I was playing the game. I was saying I was offence. Don't worry about that. I'm accustomed to that. Okay. Yes. Yes. But yeah, I'm good that we could just bury that now. I felt like it was weighing on me. I think it stopped us from winning an ad that year. Can you keep us up to date on your madden progress? I want to know when you win a Super Bowl.

Yeah, I will. Yes. Because I think that people will believe in you too. It's starting to click. Once the world can visualize James Winston win a Super Bowl, then I think that's 6 billion people that will be sharing in that vision. That's going to help you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah

Well, James, this has been awesome. We want you on anytime you want to come back on This like exceeded everything we thought we it's been a long time coming But this was so great and so thankful that you made the trip because it's so much better in person So absolutely. Thank you so much. We really appreciate it. We're fans for life So we're not neither of us or James one of one no but we have talked to him so we ride we ride he sends us out if we if he needs to send us out we'll go we'll go muck it up with some you need any angels and free agency yeah just we got word say the word you got your back listen the the person I'm

praying to he got me yeah yeah but uh? But I'm grateful for this opportunity to be with you guys and to share this energy. Like you guys are men of increase. Yeah. And that's what I'm trying to, which is why I am going to surround myself with and be unapologetic for it. Yep.

So I appreciate y'all. All right. Thank you so much. Thanks, James. Yeah. James was brought to you by Game Time. It's Super Bowl week if you're trying to get in use game time Max got in with game time last year, right? He did Max and Roan went out to see the Eagles play against the Chiefs It was a great game and they got in thanks to game time

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with code barstool100. Download the Game Time app or go to gametime.co. Okay, wrap it up. I mean that, I hope everyone loved the Jamest interview as much as we did. That was so much fun. We will definitely have him on again. He's gonna be Moses.

I feel like we could have talked to him forever. We can definitely do a whole other interview. But yeah, he's the best. He's gonna be Moses. We need him to get a starting job. We need more James. He was in the office for eight hours. Yeah he talked about it but yeah I was thinking back on it because I think that interview was at like 11 a.m. yeah and I think at 5 o'clock yeah he was like

still on the I was doing something else I came out of a meeting and went to the golf simulator and he was just but it was and amazing. I mean, it's nice. We've had, you know, Cam Newton and Brandon Marshall, James, Chris Berman, who's coming on Wednesday, like anyone who wants to come, come hang out with us for a day, because it's not like just, yeah, Jules not coming to just do an interview, it's coming to hang out, do a bunch of stuff with us.

So thank you to James for making the trip for us. So much fun, so much fun. he is maybe my favorite player ever the nicest dude ever yeah nicest dude ever and now now we're texting with James yeah now he's our boy he's our boy he's a great dude best friends all right was there anything else that happened today big cat and maybe pop culture arts music anything like that that we should cover the Grammys the Grammy Awards yeah no that's why I said it said we should cover? The Grammys. The Grammy Awards. Yeah, that's what I said. I said, we gotta do a Grammy recap.

Yeah, we're setting them up. Yeah, come on, Max. Come back, try not to fart on your walk over here. But keep it about the Grammys, burrito boy. I'm officially, I'm on Max's side. I'm not. I think he kind of got set up by the universe. I think he got set up.

I don't think, I'm not blaming think he kind of got set up by the universe I don't think I don't I'm not I'm not blaming Diana for accurately reporting because that's her job to report on things But this was just like God you can only point at God and be like you put me in the situation Wasn't sleeping and I was just like outwardly Farting like that would be bad. Mm-hmm. But like what am I? So I don't know. I'm gonna say that I have no sympathy for Max. This is direct karma for saying I hope you have a really safe flight.

You had a really safe flight? Yeah, he was fucking around with airplanes and what happened to him? He ate a burrito, farted his face off in front of a reporter. Also, I was asleep on the flight today and the person next to me just ripped open the window in the middle of the flight and woke me up with this on my kind of crazy move. It was next to me just ripped open the window in the middle of the flight woke me up with the sunlight kind of crazy

Oh it was me because I was awake because Hank elbowed me as hard as anyone's ever elbowed me when I was asleep also you're allowed to open up the window shades correct that would not like well you open it too aggressively after he aggressively elbowed me also Hank is so happy we're 40,000 feet in the air, there's nothing to see. Hank is so happy this happened to you Max. I'm not happy, but Hank is so happy. No, I'm not. I just thought the official of you were so happy.

We actually weren't 40,000 feet in the air. I know exactly when it happened because I fell asleep before we took off. You elbowed me before we took off, so I woke up. And then as we were taking off, you fell asleep and I opened the window to see what would it look like We were taking and also learn some about planes is 737 the operational ceiling is usually about 33,000 I guess it could go up to 40,000

But very rarely does that happen. So why don't you look at a map? All right Grammys Grammys So Travis Kelsey was there to support Taylor Swift. No, she goes to was not what? Taylor Swift went with Lana Del Rey. How many touchdowns does she have? Zero. Wait, but Taylor Swift goes to all of Travis Kelsey's games? Yeah, but he's Super Bowl. Oh. Okay, but they're playing it right now? Is he here? He's prepping for Super Bowl. Oh, interesting. They are here. Well, actually, no. Yeah, no, the team's in the commander's. So he could have he could have just taken a flight right after he could have just taken a flight right after the Grammys. I'm just

telling you okay I'm just reporting. I don't think she has like a private jet or anything like that that she could put them on. This is such a... Did Billy strings win anything? Nope. Tony Mitchell's right now that's right is that incorrect I don't know looking great that's correct great means are bullshit Tracy Chapman Tracy Chapman and Luke Holmes did fast car people were liking it on Twitter nice one of the best

songs yeah yeah because people are mad that Luke Holmes was doing fast car being like even though Tracy Chapman I think said like go ahead ahead, cover my song. So now we get the full circle, they did it together. Beautiful moment. Beautiful moment. Alec Churro was there.

How was she looking? She was, what's on it? No disrespect because all respect. She doesn't sing. Braxton Berrios is one of our guys. He's a thirst trapper. His hair by the way has been looking incredible. That's just a double thirst trap.

Yeah, no, they're the hottest couple ever. I like you just know I was going to go down his path there. Zach, I really hot sex together. I assume. Yeah, that's all I want to say. I think that they enjoy having sex with each other. They're probably the only they're probably each person is probably the first person that the others had sex with that's like, oh now I get why sex is great.

Yeah, you're hot. You're hot enough for me. You're hot too. Yeah. Zach Bryan was there with our co-worker, Brianna Chicken. Shout out Brie. Shout out Brie.

She looks great. Yeah. She was sitting like four feet from Taylor Swift. Pretty cool. I wonder if she said anything about, she was like, hey, they talk about you a lot, I'm pardon my take. Pervert my take.

Yeah. Pervert my take, correct um what was Taylor wearing a white and black dress and she had a watch on her neck I did not notice that I loved the I love the Swifties who do like the the I think they're called Tia non maybe who tried to decipher everything that Taylor Swift does Taylor Swift is the most obvious person ever whenever she's trying to send a message. She was wearing a necklace that was set to midnight. Yeah, what, does that mean something happens at midnight?

It's like, she telegraphs all of her stuff. How many awards is she winning? She did not win Song of the Year. What? She did not win Song of the Year. Billie Eilish. Oh, for which song? For the Barbie song.

Barbie song. Yeah. Nice. OK. Yep. I saw that killer Mike. Yeah. One three Grammys.

Run the jewels. Then got arrested. Yeah, rocks. That's so wait. Wait, what did he get arrested for? We don't know. I don't know. OK, so as of now, I think it rocks.

If it's something really bad and it sucks. Yeah, that's good for street crepe. It probably sucks for the after party. This boy is just so party. But it's like it is good for street crepe. Yeah. Killer Mike's awesome. Although it's like kind of weird because you saw it was like, you know, they're doing it where the Clippers and the Lakers play. He was just in the concourse getting arrested. That kind of sucked. Does suck. So it might have been the thing where they'd been looking for him in LA for a while We know he's gonna be we know it's gonna be at the Grammys. Yeah, who votes on the Grammys The Academy oh is there a prize waterhouse Cooper Jay Z called out the recording Academy for never giving Beyonce album of the year

Respect a nice nice big wife guy him Kyle Jusich. Yep. Yep Taylor it's Kanye is Kanye shout-out Kyle juice ex-wife for dunking on quakes. Yeah, by the way stand with her. Is she yeah I'm a fan of any fullbacks way. This is a fucking piece of shit. Yeah She's not making a jacket alright, she can't make a jacket for for anybody if if they're playing against her husband I think she already has me. Yeah anybody if if they're playing against her husband I think she already has made yes you can make a new one I was not gonna wear the same thing twice right

she never does and Kristen can't like you can't make something for her yeah you can't was it a Kristen is it Krista Christian I would wear a Kristen you check Jersey that's how much I like her work but respectfully what it's say the full name? Yeah. And she could even have her husband's number on it. And be like a 49ers one. Yeah.

I just want to call you such a- Yeah, yeah, I was- I feel like that's just whatever. Taylor Swift did announce a new album. Midnight. Boop boop boop boop boop. Wait, a new album or is it a cover of Rolls-Eye? Oh no. That was like a- Jake, is it a cover of

Who here's fucking pumped for the Super Bowl nerd nugget sound I'm pumped too. I'll be I'll I'll say I'm pumped. I'm so calm We're not wearing headphones in this studio, so I can deal with it. Yeah, I'll be pumped. I'm so calm. Well, we're not wearing headphones in this studio, so I can deal with it. I'll be pumped. I'm very pumped. It's usually the headphones. Taylor Swift announced new, wait, I just said that. It's called the Tortured Poets Department and is releasing on April 19th.

Okay, cool. Here's a couple good ones. I actually used it for once. There's a couple memes ones that are thrown in here. Okay, here's the memes ones. Osempic is a problem. OK. Because Laney, Laney Wilson is at her name. You said the fat ass.

OK, let's back up, boy. OK. Oprah would that's OK. OK, Oprah look good. You have a problematic. Just why she. OK, Hank looked good. You have a problem at it. It's why she. OK, Hank, keep going. That's piece it all together. He's saying that Oprah started the fires in Maui.

Oh, you said that. No, no, yes, what you're that's what you're getting to. You said that. OK. I love when Hank gets just little pieces of news. He never actually can piece it all together, but he's just like Oprah problem fires Okay, what else I think that's it. Okay. That's that's a great job. Yeah, but you got one means For how he presented award Mariah Carey this weekend and she walked up and he was

Left his hand shaking. Ah, so Stevie Wonder confirmed. I still have seen the video. I've seen a video where he catches a mic stand as it's falling over. I've seen that. You can feel that he waved high to Shaq one time. So hi Shaq. Stevie Wonder is the best.

I saw him once in concert. It was one of the best concerts I've ever seen. Yeah. Songs in the key of life will change your life. Yes. Listen to that album. Yes. All right well good job boys. Great show. We have something special for the lottery ball this week. We have the Schwam picking a ball every single episode because he was in the office on Friday. Wednesday we have the Schwam on the show and we might have someone sitting in

Hank's chair to start the show, which I think AWLs will be very excited for. It's Super Bowl week. We are going to go all out for the AWL Super Bowl week. So let's kick it to ourselves back in our studio. I'm sorry for farting. No, you aren't. I am.

I'm embarrassed. OK, we're going to wrap up the show. We have a special guest on Wednesday. You can see him right now sitting on the couch. Great interview, as always, a super bold tradition with the Schwam and we figured, why not have the Schwam guest numbers with us all week? So every single show this week

will end with the Schwam numbers. We'll let you go first. So I could pick how many? Any number, one number, one number. If you get one of these this week. And this is a tease for the Wednesday show. Yeah, this is a tease for the Wednesday show. Can't tell you why.

Yeah. 22. 22, okay, I like that. I'll go eight. I'll go 71. 40 for Hank. Three. 18.

Three for Memes, 18 for Jake. Shane. 21 for Shane. If you get this, I think we have to retire the ball. Yeah. Look at this thing. Not allowed to look. 56.

56. So no one was even within 20. No, that happens a lot. OK. Love you guys I'll be coming for your love of me, for your love of me Take on me, take me on I'll be gone, I'll be gone, I'll be gone Take on, take on, take on, take on, take on Needless to say, I ought to set his body's stolen away But only learn that life is okay, say after me It's no better to be safe than sorry

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